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Vikram's Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 06:22 PM [Full View]
ungalukku poor screenplay-a theriyuthu, enakku nalla thaan therinchuthu ....
Originally Posted by kalyan
intha matrix ithellam summa damache
"a child will say that the screenplay was weak" -- konjam over
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From: kalyan on 28th June 2010 06:25 PM [Full View]
ok bro, enjoy Originally Posted by Pras
ungalukku poor screenplay-a theriyuthu, enakku nalla thaan therinchuthu .... Originally Posted by kalyan
intha matrix ithellam summa damache
"a child will say that the screenplay was weak" -- konjam over
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 06:27 PM [Full View]
but as you say, i think we have a loooong way to go to have a matrix in tamil Originally Posted by kalyan
ok bro, enjoy Originally Posted by Pras
ungalukku poor screenplay-a theriyuthu, enakku nalla thaan therinchuthu .... Originally Posted by kalyan
intha matrix ithellam summa damache
"a child will say that the screenplay was weak" -- konjam over 
even remakes like ghajini (memento), was modified to "suit" tamil audience
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From: NOV on 28th June 2010 06:32 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
Star Wars: ‘Raavan’ vs. ‘Raavanan’
Screen Presence: It is indeed a travesty of justice that the son of an actor who lorded over any screen - big or small - in his four decades of acting, has to stand trial in this regard. And it is sad that he manages to come out only second best behind Vikram. In fact, I'll stick my neck out and suggest the southern star even managed to pull a few punches as the S.P. in the Hindi version. Without doubt Vikram set the screens afire while Abhishek just about managed to light it up.
Creative Expression: If Mani Ratnam's idea of having his anti-hero mouth drumbeats was to portray eccentricity, both his stars made a pig's breakfast out of it. Abhishek, with his eyes rolled up, face blackened and teeth glistening didn't scare anyone while Vikram's effort at portraying madness once again emerged a shade better due to a pair of blessed eyes that portrayed pain. It looked as if Mani Sir shot the Tamil version first and Abhishek faithfully followed in the senior actor's footsteps.
Chemistry or Geography: Abhishek had an obvious chemistry working with wife Aishwarya but when it came to other co-stars, once again Vikram looked more in command. The south star was getting the other actors to react to him while Abhishek looked to be reacting to their presence, especially in the scenes between him and Govinda. Though Prabhu is as much an accomplished actor, Vikram somehow didn't let him get ahead. But, make no mistake, Mani Ratnam should be the one credited with getting the Abhi-Ash duo to sizzle on screen - be it 'Guru' or 'Raavan'.
Drama or Melodrama: Despite being an accomplished actor in his own right, Abhishek probably makes the cardinal sin of aping Vikram in some of the high voltage scenes like the one where he learns of his sister's misadventure. While Veera's cry of anguish personifies the villager from interior Tamil Nadu, the same cannot be said of Beera's emotions that somehow didn't look very Bihari or where ever it was that Mani Ratnam intended the setting to be.
Action replay: If there was one segment where both Abhishek Bachchan and Vikram stood out, it was in the action sequences. While an older Vikram looked menacing and macho in those scenes, thanks to his well-toned body, Abhishek was not far behind and despite his awkward gait in the scenes involving sliding down waterfalls and escorting Ragini (Ash). He carried off the last scene as well as the final fight sequence with the police officer commendably. Not to forget that Vikram as Raavanan probably had an easier task in the final fight scene opposite Prithviraj while Abhishek had Vikram to contend with.
And the award goes to: If readers have had the patience to read through till this point, I wouldn't like to test their intelligence by actually naming the victor of this face-off. Suffice to say that Vikram did justice to his billing as a National Award winner and Abhishek Bachchan made the cardinal sin of trying to copy expressions without studying the settings.
http://entertainment.in.msn.com/boll...4083513&page=0
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From: ajaybaskar on 28th June 2010 06:36 PM [Full View]
Idhukkaagavae hindi version paakkanum pola irukke!!!
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 06:37 PM [Full View]
great !"thanks for posting NOV
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From: NOV on 28th June 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
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Beera vs Veera
The biggest difference between the two versions, and perhaps the only difference that matters to the larger part of the audience, is the casting of Abhishek as the leading character of Beera in Hindi and Vikram as Veera in Tamil. Both actors couldn't have come from more opposite directions yet they're seen tackling the same role and comparisons are inevitable.
Upon seeing both version, the comparison seems rather pointless as Vikram shines as Veera in a way that Abhishek doesn't even come close to doing. He ignites the insane fire inside Veera with superb energy and perfection. Several, if not countless, scenes prove this sentiment well and truly. The most obvious of them being the initial scene on top of the cliff in which Ragini is brought to be killed by Beera. This scene marks the audiences' real introduction with Veera where he has a full-fledged conversation with Ragini and one truly uncovers the madman that is Veera.
In Vikram's portrayal you truly sit up and notice the man speaking on the screen, whilst with Abhishek's portrayal you immediately pick up several things that he's doing wrong. The most obvious of them being the terrible attempt at a 'gawaar' or 'illiterate' accent. It's almost laughable! He tried hard to grasp the rawness of Beera but fails miserably. As for Vikram, well there is no Vikram in this scene or in the entire duration of Raavanan. There's only Veera. You forget that this is an iconic actor who has already created history with countless other avatars. Whilst with Abhishek's version you're very much aware of the fact that this is Abhishek Bachchan acting as Beera. Therein lies the reason why Vikram triumphs with this character, he makes it his own.
In addition to failing to grasp the required accent, Abhishek does not come close to portraying the true madness of Beera in the way Vikram does. The scenes where Beera/Veera's thoughts are ten at a time and he goes off on a little madman tangent, makes it rather obvious that as hard as Abhishek tries to bring onscreen this level of insanity required of Beera, he doesn't come close to fulfilling the task.
It also becomes rather apparent when reading reviews of the Hindi version that critics have pointed out the main flaw in the movie as being Abhishek's performance and reviewers who've seen what the character was 'actually' meant to be portrayed as have found the Hindi counterpart twice as more disappointing to what they initially thought it was.
more comparisons here: http://www.bollyspice.com/view.php/5...-raavanan.html
conclusion: Ultimately, from an overall perspective, the Tamil version definitely prevails however if time permits, one mustn't miss out on the Hindi version completely as it does have some great offerings too that would be a shame to miss. So be a true cinegoer and try them both out, a double dose of Mani Ratnam can never be a bad thing afterall!
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From: Sarna on 28th June 2010 06:45 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
Originally Posted by msn
over-acting'a pugazhra pazhakkaththa vidavE maattaanga pOla 
abishek has become target to justify vikram's over-acting
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From: ajaybaskar on 28th June 2010 06:48 PM [Full View]
Except for that 'Bak Bak', Vikram was well in control of the role.. His letting out of emotions on seeing Vennila's corpse was a stunner...
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 28th June 2010 06:58 PM [Full View]
Yes Bak Bak could have been avoided
We all know Abeesek's Talents, so lets not talk about it
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From: raghavendran on 28th June 2010 07:03 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
...and wen he cries wen his bro is killed..a true sterling perfromance.. ..his best..the biggest pillar of raavanan is vikram IMO
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From: NOV on 28th June 2010 07:07 PM [Full View]
but of course raghav. vikram is one of the best actors around today.
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 07:07 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
that overacting guy has been felicitated by everyone but not by one ... wondering who is overacting here Originally Posted by Sarna
Originally Posted by msn
over-acting'a pugazhra pazhakkaththa vidavE maattaanga pOla
abishek has become target to justify vikram's over-acting
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From: raghavendran on 28th June 2010 07:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
...couldn think of someone else as veera..he is surely at the roof top wen it comes to performing compared with his competitors..you could never think of vikram..in the film..always veera...thats a success...after the film..wen i was talkin i was referring as veera only and not vikram..
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 07:14 PM [Full View]
already posted this, but reposting with a quote
http://www.videos.behindwoods.com/vi...priyamani.html
Priyamani speaking about Vikram :
He has done a wonderful job. Vikram is an actor par excellence and has overshadowed everyone. When we were rehearsing our combination scenes, he would react in a particular way but when he goes in front of the camera, it would be a different interpretation. He has lived up to the character of Veeraiyya.
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From: raghavendran on 28th June 2010 07:19 PM [Full View]
BTW..PRAS Originally Posted by Pras
already posted this, but reposting with a quote
http://www.videos.behindwoods.com/vi...priyamani.html
Priyamani speaking about Vikram :
He has done a wonderful job. Vikram is an actor par excellence and has overshadowed everyone. When we were rehearsing our combination scenes, he would react in a particular way but when he goes in front of the camera, it would be a different interpretation. He has lived up to the character of Veeraiyya.
GUD TITLE...
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From: Sarna on 28th June 2010 07:20 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
ok.. for u one question ? MGR maadhiri kazhuththula gundadi patta oruththar eppadi avlO gambeeramaa pEsa mudiyum ??? adhuvum dandandan Originally Posted by Pras
that overacting guy has been felicitated by everyone but not by one ... wondering who is overacting here
GOOD ACTOR - oru character enna panna mudiyumO, adha unarndhu sariyaa pannura aal dhaan good actor... thanakku therinjadhu/mudinjadhu ellaam pannaa, adhukku pEr Over-actin'nu sollaama ennanu solradhu
one more point :- u can justify Vikram's acting by points to face criticism against vikram's acting... instead u r trying to criticize criticizer
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From: Avadi to America on 28th June 2010 07:23 PM [Full View]
padam block buster ayiducha....
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 07:26 PM [Full View]
Re: Vikram's BlockBuster Raavanan, ARR, MR - Part 3
Originally Posted by Sarna
ok.. for u one question ? MGR maadhiri kazhuththula gundadi patta oruththar eppadi avlO gambeeramaa pEsa mudiyum ??? adhuvum dandandan Originally Posted by Pras
that overacting guy has been felicitated by everyone but not by one ... wondering who is overacting here
GOOD ACTOR - oru character enna panna mudiyumO, adha unarndhu sariyaa pannura aal dhaan good actor... thanakku therinjadhu/mudinjadhu ellaam pannaa, adhukku pEr Over-actin'nu sollaama ennanu solradhu
one more point :- u can justify Vikram's acting by points to face criticism against vikram's acting... instead u r trying to criticize criticizer ungala criticize panna thappa eduthukka maatinga-nu thaan criticize pannen 
.. BTW, i didn't find that as a "critic" 
and for your kostin : maybe that's a "characterization" problem .. ask Mani about that ... Abishek hindi-la panna ok, Vikram tamil-a pannina overacting-a ??
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From: Sarna on 28th June 2010 07:31 PM [Full View]
Pras
btw, I never said Abishek acting was GOOD and fyi i didnt see hindi version till now and i dont have plans to watch it on big screen
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From: Pras on 28th June 2010 07:34 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
padam block buster ayiducha....
YES
Dan Dan Dan Dan Danaku
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From: Plum on 28th June 2010 07:35 PM [Full View]
And that also justifies the african chants for BGMveera clearly wants to dodge dev and then kill raagini - hence 14 hrs........there is a Zulu method of killing - hammering nail slowly into a person's intestine, the person if unattended dies after 14 hrs....
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I think most people - inlcuding Ravan is a timeless classic proponents - agreed that the Ramayana references were clumsy throughout - no need to read big into that. I still think littlemaster nailed it with his short take on the movie.
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From: subash43 on 28th June 2010 07:54 PM [Full View]
Ranking based on Chennai Box Office Collections from June 25th 2010 to June 27th 2010
Mani might have drawn inspiration from the character of the demon king Raavanan, but Vikram’s character in the movie comes across as a do-gooder. The ensemble star cast and the impeccable cinematography stands out in the high voltage drama.
Trade Talk:
The initial weekends are completely booked, leaving fans disappointed for unavailability of tickets.
Public Talk:
Mani has managed to wow his fans, despite the fact that movie is marred with logical flaws. Cinematography, music and the cast are the reasons.
No. Weeks Completed: 1
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 364
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 85%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 81,43,348
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.2.55 Crore
Verdict: Good Opening
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-raavanan.html
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From: BM on 28th June 2010 07:58 PM [Full View]
No. Weeks Completed: 1
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 364
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 85%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 81,43,348
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.2.55 Crore
Verdict: Good Opening
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-raavanan.html
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From: joe on 28th June 2010 08:06 PM [Full View]
Vikram Vs Abishek
Vikrama-a vida Abishek nalla pannipuduvan-nu payapuLaiga nampittu irunthangaLa yemaRurathukku
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From: MADDY on 28th June 2010 08:55 PM [Full View]
again u r asking for windows OS CD in Linux lab Originally Posted by Plum
And that also justifies the african chants for BGMveera clearly wants to dodge dev and then kill raagini - hence 14 hrs........there is a Zulu method of killing - hammering nail slowly into a person's intestine, the person if unattended dies after 14 hrs....
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I think most people - inlcuding Ravan is a timeless classic proponents - agreed that the Ramayana references were clumsy throughout - no need to read big into that. I still think littlemaster nailed it with his short take on the movie.
have u watched the movie or not??
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From: kid-glove on 28th June 2010 10:13 PM [Full View]
Plum,
The references could be deemed clumsy but the intent was loud and clear - this will be Mani's sleight of hand (the 'mythic' epic) to deviate from the commentary on the 'higher order' and inherent failure in its own blemishes on the 'marginalized' society. This is true of Dil Se too and look how much the rape victim is driven to. And as well an in-look of sorts. And of course, two women might seem less consequential but (do they really?) only they bring out what the 'other World' is like. Vennila in Dev's Police station vis-a-vis Ragini in Veera's clan. With this scathing 'parallel' to Ram's clan, one ponders how it escaped from the watchdogs (ha, recollect what Vennila refers the 'police force' by) of right wing extremists. This film, to me, is Anti-Agneepath (features one of the most 'racist' depictions of south Indians to my mind), what a sick joke (and crude irony and genius by Mani) to employ Amitabh's son.
And of course, the references to epic range from overt to subtle to subversive to self-referential to convolved. To conclude, there's a over consciousness of the epic and in Tamil, the dialogues couldn't be more explicit. Of course, the low (or loudest) point being Raavanan referring to Dev blatantly as "Ram" and says therefore he is the '10 headed Raavanan'
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From: raghavendran on 29th June 2010 08:25 AM [Full View]
1 week completed...2.55crs...idhukku peyar hit dhaane?...people reactions ennennu BO resultle theriyudhu... Originally Posted by Mahen
Originally Posted by subash43
The total collections could cross >5C..
Wheres TM? Singam is still in the 4C range and doesnt look like its gona touch 5c...Singam-hit, thats it
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From: jinju on 29th June 2010 09:57 AM [Full View]
lion's share ellam vidunga, lion is roaring in all centers across TN whereas raavanan has only met its target audience! is that enuff for this high budgeted film? Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Idhuvum unmaithaane, Jinju? Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 10:01 AM [Full View]
Nope.. U r right, Only in case of Multiplex movies or A Centre movies or Class movies or whatever the term best applicable as per individual choices.. manasaatchi yoada yosichchu paarthu naan sonnathu unmayaa illaayannu sollunga.. I am sure u know this.. If u really need further explanation, i may try. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Idhuvum unmaithaane, Jinju? Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 10:03 AM [Full View]
High budget movienu solradhellam namba mudiyadhu, Jinju.. Mani sir is not a fool to invest big money. Contact Mr. Kamal Haasan in case u have any doubt.
Enakkum indha padam oru vidhathula disappointmentthaan. But indha padamellam oduna tamizh cinema 10 varusham pinnaadi poiduchunu yaarum complain panna maattanga!!
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 10:05 AM [Full View]
next to chennai, madurai and kovai will be big market for movies.... then Salem comes ... then
Madurai+kovai collections >>> chennai collections ... known persons can throw more lights
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 10:06 AM [Full View]
Thiru,
I am talking about Raavanan only...
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From: jinju on 29th June 2010 10:09 AM [Full View]
pinnaadiyo munnaadiyo, odinaa mr. manikku thaan nallathu...but the bottomline is apart from a few who analysed the film better than many, the general mood is 'disappointment'...
i remember k_g commenting in the other thread after the trailers came out that MR might be attempting a VB with this film...don't know what he thinks now!
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 10:12 AM [Full View]
AB, Sathya and Raghav, pras and other raavanan supporters - its futile to educate people who have not updated since 2005 and still think B+C centres>> A Centres.......if im not wrong, a Rs. 20cr+ budgeted movie can breakeven or become a hit with A centre collections alone.........A centres=10*(B+C)
*by A centres - i dont mean chennai only.......there are pockets of A centres all across TN prominently in covai and other cities etc .......
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 10:12 AM [Full View]
Sarna,
After Chennai, Salem has the most number of theatres. Tirupur comes next. But carpet firing is exercised only in Chennai.
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 10:12 AM [Full View]
jinju, we all know and understood u dont like the movie - can we move on pls Originally Posted by jinju
pinnaadiyo munnaadiyo, odinaa mr. manikku thaan nallathu...but the bottomline is apart from a few who analysed the film better than many, the general mood is 'disappointment'...
i remember k_g commenting in the other thread after the trailers came out that MR might be attempting a VB with this film...don't know what he thinks now!
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From: jinju on 29th June 2010 10:16 AM [Full View]
sarna, kovai is disappointment only...my in-laws went this weekend..few empty seats were ther they told in the balcony itself in the first week! thats y i told in the other thread that the sify report on maanaadu saving raavanan was laughworthy (think all their reports on raavanan have been!)...i cud even get the tickets booked for them just half an hour prior to the show that too on the second sunday here! i remember even for Goa, we returned without getting tickets and that was the 4th week, forget comparing its crowd here with VTV n Singam!
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From: jinju on 29th June 2010 10:27 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
jinju, we all know and understood u dont like the movie - can we move on pls Originally Posted by jinju
pinnaadiyo munnaadiyo, odinaa mr. manikku thaan nallathu...but the bottomline is apart from a few who analysed the film better than many, the general mood is 'disappointment'...
i remember k_g commenting in the other thread after the trailers came out that MR might be attempting a VB with this film...don't know what he thinks now!
y MADDY? i thot i was having a genuine discussion so far than i've seen on some of the other threads here, but i didn't see anyone asking 'can we move on' there...!
even the '14' doubt i asked was a genuine one from my part...and i've even send PMs to a few members regarding my doubts on certain parts to get it clarified coz so far, i've never disagreed on a mani sir film but in this case i've with so many points on the film...and the PMs were exactly for this very reason that if i post them here, it wud b misinterpreted as 'bashing' or "boring, can we move on' stuff...am sorry, if my posts on raavanan r unwelcome for a section of people here, then fine, i stop! tc...
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 10:29 AM [Full View]
It is still not declared hit.. Well, it will become a hit w.r.t Chennai. atha naan unna meet panna boathe sonnaenae raghav :P Originally Posted by raghavendran
1 week completed...2.55crs...idhukku peyar hit dhaane?...people reactions ennennu BO resultle theriyudhu... Originally Posted by Mahen
Originally Posted by subash43
The total collections could cross >5C..
Wheres TM? Singam is still in the 4C range and doesnt look like its gona touch 5c...Singam-hit, thats it
Few things.....
1. Kanthasamy collected 2.65 crores in the same period as above. I hope, U know the overall status.
2. The above mentioned amount i think might not be even equal to the money spent on Raavanan Publicity. Raavanan publicity is the best in past few years. So they have a long way to go even w.r.t Chennai to become a hit. :P
Mahen,
Singam 5 crores cross pannidum.. But VTV collection cross pannaathunnu naan last week ae sollitaen..
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...=asc&start=255
Where as Singam is a universal hit across all centres and with Overseas. After Ayan, across all places hit aanathu Singam alone.
Even in chennai because of Raavanan, Singam dull aagiduchchu.. It happens in chennai.. when 2 big movies releases within shorter time frame such things might occur. UPO oruvan too ended in similiar fate when Aadhavan, peraanmai released. That does not matter however. As whoever concerned in Chennai has taken more than the profit they expected.
See rediff for the overall status.. If u dont believe leave it. towards end or in between, behindwoods and sify reports also will come .. appa kooda kanna moodikalaam
There was a news yesterday in TOI..
In short this is the news..
Due to the huge hit of Singam in Overseas, the overseas rights of the Tamil version of Raktha Charithra is sold for a amount next to Rajini and Kamal in Overseas market. It is not even a direct tamil movie
Neenga ellaam saernthu enna thaan Surya maela vayitherichal kaatinaalum, he is big as of now.. With Singam it just went into another state. :P
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 10:39 AM [Full View]
AFAIK, Salem has the most number of theatres in tamilnadu..but i dont have statistic report... but the ticket rates are very less compared to chennai theatres... and many theatres are second release theatres where still(even today) u can get a ticket for 10/15rs...the overall collection/income from chennai wont equate Madurai(economically well-developed) for sure Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
I dont have statistic report but the above details are uptodate information got from my friends who live in respective places and are not outdated 2005 informations
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 10:44 AM [Full View]
In kovai situation ennannu jinju sollitar.. vaenumnaa HR kitta cross check pannikalaam.. :P Originally Posted by MADDY
Let me tell u maddy.. In Arakonam which is a C center is capable of collecting at least 10 Lakhs for a commercial hit.. Tickets rates in the opening week is Rs.60 and subseqyently 40 / 30 Rs.
Kanchipuram which is B center is capable of Collecting at least 20 lakhs... Intha rendu center enakku therinjathaala example koduthaen..
Though Kovai, salem, etc can be considered as A centres, the people's state and way they live is not === Chennai..
Hence not necessarilu Chennai always ==== kovai, salem, etc..
So unga logic applicable aagaathu for a movie like Raavanan.
Well, i did not bring any comparisions..It was the others. :P
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 10:45 AM [Full View]
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 10:45 AM [Full View]
Im 'nobody' to stop u from posting anywhere........i just request u to move on with the 'disappointment' angle/posts......i mean, the disappointment point is understood and taken - repeating it is really unneccessary..... Originally Posted by jinju
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 10:54 AM [Full View]
U mean to say there are no maniratnam-movie goers koottam in these cities?........i cant believe it - i can accept mani has penetrated only middle class and above but not this statement.....there is a misconception abt this mani-rahman reach in TN - u will be shocked to know the kind of following these 2 have in entire TN....... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 11:02 AM [Full View]
actually no one said in the sense u are thinking.. Well that is a different topic.. :P Originally Posted by groucho070
I don't expect fall, just that the whole "next Kamal" focus will shift elsewhere. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no maddy.. i said w.r.t Raavanan type movies.. where as Alai paayuthe would become much more bigger that this in certain areas, where as in chennai might be a bit lesser.. Well, Agni natchathiram type of movies will be a universal hit across... Originally Posted by MADDY
U mean to say there are no maniratnam-movie goers koottam in these cities?........i cant believe it - i can accept mani has penetrated only middle class and above but not this statement.....there is a misconception abt this mani-rahman reach in TN - u will be shocked to know the kind of following these 2 have in entire TN....... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
MR kaaga poaravanga niraya irupaanga no doubt... with reviews and wom, many people might prefer to watch in dvd's.. athaan naan solla vanthen.. nothing against MR.. Actually he was my most favorite director before 2000.. Ippa most fav nnu solla mudiyaathu... but still In top 3..
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 11:09 AM [Full View]
Jinju,
Mani hasn't gone VB or even Bala way in the characterizations and/or milieu, it seemed that way. But let me just say that this is again a pure Mani Ratnam film.
On the references (incl. 14 weeks to 14 days to what Munna, who plays Sakkarai, puts to his brother, that it'd even take 14 years till Veera relieves her. Therefore attributing a very 'timeless' value to the captive period - in any event, Dev is affected and fails Veera's moral test ), this is what I think
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Plum,
The references could be deemed clumsy but the intent was loud and clear - this will be Mani's sleight of hand (the 'mythic' epic) to deviate from the commentary on the 'higher order' and inherent failure in its own blemishes on the 'marginalized' society. This is true of Dil Se too and look how much the rape victim is driven to. And as well an in-look of sorts. And of course, two women might seem less consequential but (do they really?) only they bring out what the 'other World' is like. Vennila in Dev's Police station vis-a-vis Ragini in Veera's clan. With this scathing 'parallel' to Ram's clan, one ponders how it escaped from the watchdogs (ha, recollect what Vennila refers the 'police force' by) of right wing extremists. This film, to me, is Anti-Agneepath (features one of the most 'racist' depictions of south Indians to my mind), what a sick joke (and crude irony and genius by Mani) to employ Amitabh's son.
And of course, the references to epic range from overt to subtle to subversive to self-referential to convolved. To conclude, there's a over consciousness of the epic and in Tamil, the dialogues couldn't be more explicit. Of course, the low (or loudest) point being Raavanan referring to Dev blatantly as "Ram" and says therefore he is the '10 headed Raavanan'
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 11:12 AM [Full View]
whats the difference between city and district ?????? Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: Siv.S on 29th June 2010 11:20 AM [Full View]
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 11:20 AM [Full View]
Brother,
Yes. I do know that Salem had the most number of screens at one POT. gone are those days!!!
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 11:24 AM [Full View]
Indha Thiru panra aniyaayam thaanga mudiyala. Endha threadla ellam ini post panna koodathunnu nenacheno anga ennoda postai move panni vachurukkaar..
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 11:26 AM [Full View]
Windows in Linux ec. As I said I didnt expect rootedness in this movie much less the BGM but breaking rules-lAm ippO Devi Sri Prasad-E paNNA aarambichuttAr - pudhusA Edhavadhu try paNNanum (again, that is the problem with that whole philosophy - you have to react to the "established order" because to break the rules there must be something call the rule established and accepted - so in that sense as a creator, you are forever reacting than creating. In that sense, the man who establishes the rule is still the King -because he is not bound by your philosophy but you are bound by his philosophy because without his rules, you have nothing to break.)
* This need not be taken as Rahman bashing but my own criticism of the Break Rules philosophy.
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From: groucho070 on 29th June 2010 11:30 AM [Full View]
same here Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Indha Thiru panra aniyaayam thaanga mudiyala. Endha threadla ellam ini post panna koodathunnu nenacheno anga ennoda postai move panni vachurukkaar..
Madhavan thread-la move pannirunthalum, thread move ayidurukkum.
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 11:32 AM [Full View]
I had strong tinge of 'disappointment' about Rahman's score vis-a-vis other Mani films.. And even more disappointed by the music videos and their discerped nature..
Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 11:35 AM [Full View]
kid, a couple of points Originally Posted by kid-glove
Plum,
The references could be deemed clumsy but the intent was loud and clear - this will be Mani's sleight of hand (the 'mythic' epic) to deviate from the commentary on the 'higher order' and inherent failure in its own blemishes on the 'marginalized' society. This is true of Dil Se too and look how much the rape victim is driven to. And as well an in-look of sorts. And of course, two women might seem less consequential but (do they really?) only they bring out what the 'other World' is like. Vennila in Dev's Police station vis-a-vis Ragini in Veera's clan. With this scathing 'parallel' to Ram's clan, one ponders how it escaped from the watchdogs (ha, recollect what Vennila refers the 'police force' by) of right wing extremists. This film, to me, is Anti-Agneepath (features one of the most 'racist' depictions of south Indians to my mind), what a sick joke (and crude irony and genius by Mani) to employ Amitabh's son.
And of course, the references to epic range from overt to subtle to subversive to self-referential to convolved. To conclude, there's a over consciousness of the epic and in Tamil, the dialogues couldn't be more explicit. Of course, the low (or loudest) point being Raavanan referring to Dev blatantly as "Ram" and says therefore he is the '10 headed Raavanan'
1) I said "agreed that the Ramayana references were clumsy throughout - no need to read big into that" so yeah, I dont read a big deal into those clumsy references and
2) I dont think there is so much thought into debunking northie Agneepaths either - I still think the movie's politics reflects more of Suhasini's world view than Mani - I dont know what was worse - seeing Rai mouth those unwieldy dialogues and "poems" or the inescapable illusion of seeing Suhasini in Rai's persona. Qalandar was right, kid. Ragini is actually Suhasini - and Mani seems to have cocneptualised the character a lot on Suhasini, and let her expound on her personal philosophies into the character. One probable reason why the Hindi version apparently is less dialogue-oriented and more mystical(which I gather from BPM posts) is possibly that VK Acharya or whoever never can replicate Suhasini's personal views and philosophy after hearing it second hand from Mani - and the exponents of intentional fallacy have conveniently applied mysiticism to the hindi version and BPM has promptly utilised that to claim that the Hindi version is what was intended by Mani and the tamil version is just a by product.
3. The right-wing extremists have been fooled alright but Mani himself isnt interested too much in THAT politics as seen in the movie - he seems to have lost interest in the politics of the movid mid way through and this reflects in the screenplay, the performances and the shift in tone in the second half.
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From: leosimha on 29th June 2010 11:39 AM [Full View]
whaat....Raavanan already a blockbuster..
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 11:41 AM [Full View]
//dig Originally Posted by groucho070
same here Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Indha Thiru panra aniyaayam thaanga mudiyala. Endha threadla ellam ini post panna koodathunnu nenacheno anga ennoda postai move panni vachurukkaar..
Madhavan thread-la move pannirunthalum, thread move ayidurukkum.
ajay, grouch
Kumudam Kurukezhutthu Parisu Poatti Wrote : Aasiriyarin theerpae iruthiyaanathu..
ok..Let us get back to Naveena Seetha's Soft corner, Maniratnam's Raavanan :P
//end dig
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 11:43 AM [Full View]
Yeah, Originally Posted by Thirumaran
actually no one said in the sense u are thinking.. Well that is a different topic.. :P Originally Posted by groucho070
I don't expect fall, just that the whole "next Kamal" focus will shift elsewhere. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no maddy.. i said w.r.t Raavanan type movies.. where as Alai paayuthe would become much more bigger that this in certain areas, where as in chennai might be a bit lesser.. Well, Agni natchathiram type of movies will be a universal hit across... Originally Posted by MADDY
U mean to say there are no maniratnam-movie goers koottam in these cities?........i cant believe it - i can accept mani has penetrated only middle class and above but not this statement.....there is a misconception abt this mani-rahman reach in TN - u will be shocked to know the kind of following these 2 have in entire TN....... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
MR kaaga poaravanga niraya irupaanga no doubt... with reviews and wom, many people might prefer to watch in dvd's.. athaan naan solla vanthen.. nothing against MR.. Actually he was my most favorite director before 2000.. Ippa most fav nnu solla mudiyaathu... but still In top 3..
1. KS Ravikumar
2. Hari
3. Maniratnam
correctA TM?
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 11:53 AM [Full View]
Plum 
There is a list in the current set... not
1. Shankar
2. MR
3. Bala
4. Gautham Menon (My new born son is named as gautam :P, well not for GM.)
5. ARM
These people's movies mostly i wont miss in watching in theaters. :P
KSR and Hari commercial type.. depends on the movie nature i would choose....
Shankar, MR ellaam nammoada kaathaligal maathiri.. nammoada niranthara anbum aravanaippum eppavum irukkum even if they commit few mistakes.. KSR and Hari are like chinna veedus.. anthantha naerathukku yaeththa maathiri
eppa vaenumnaalum kazhatti vittudalaam 
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 11:54 AM [Full View]
Point 2 Maybe that's why Mani used his own experience of bomb exploding mid-air into the script. And some of our old posts on their 'romantic chemistry' makes me chuckle about the Kalvare song. I'll give it a thought, by which I mean 'Suhasini world view'.
Point 3: Despite the tonal change, I don't see a loss of interest in the politics. I know the 'conflict' and 'resolution' of the drama is what the 'script' demands, but still that doesn't relegate 'Us' vs 'Them' to a minor deceit. The end lays further emphasis. The moral indictment of one side is always ON. That's the way it registers.
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From: mnaren555 on 29th June 2010 11:55 AM [Full View]
ungalukkum love'kum set aagathae Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Shankar, MR ellaam nammoada kaathaligal maathiri.. nammoada niranthara anbum aravanaippum eppavum irukkum even if they commit few mistakes.. KSR and Hari are like chinna veedus.. anthantha naerathukku yaeththa maathiri eppa vaenumnaalum kazhatti vittudalaam
btw intha chinna veedu matter vidavae maatingala
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 12:05 PM [Full View]
1. Oh yeah, that was (bomb exploding mid-air) was very well built in - and Baradwaj's point about playing an image, and then rewinding at a later point to cast a different light on the same image(from where must have emerged the Rashomon inspiration rumours) worked very well. Originally Posted by kid-glove
Point 2 Maybe that's why Mani used his own experience of bomb exploding mid-air into the script. And some of our old posts on their 'romantic chemistry' makes me chuckle about the Kalvare song. I'll give it a thought, by which I mean 'Suhasini world view'.
Point 3: Despite the tonal change, I don't see a loss of interest in the politics. I know the 'conflict' and 'resolution' of the drama is what the 'script' demands, but still that doesn't relegate 'Us' vs 'Them' to a minor deceit. The end lays further emphasis. The moral indictment of one side is always ON. That's the way it registers.
2. I'll chew about this - it needs another watch and perhaps, watch o fthe Hindi version too(despite Abhishek!).
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 12:07 PM [Full View]
Vidyasagar kooda dhaan symphony orchestra pannittaru, so rendum onnu aaiduma? Originally Posted by Plum
As my siggy says, rahman is a great ocean spanning across many watershed moments........i mean breaking conventions is not the only aspect of arr's bgm........his grasp of abstractness and putting it together in music is legendary stuff.......i know u dont rate rahman high and u have problems with the entire philosophy of rahman's BGM - point taken several times - lets move on...... Originally Posted by Plum
U r unneccessary mock of BGM from nowhere is clearly rahman bashing - if u r not realising it, let me do the honors..........and u end up painting a 'intolerant' shade on me/other rahman fans - wat worse u make sure ppl. do not miss rahman bashing with ur footnote - niruthhikonga Originally Posted by Plum
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From: NOV on 29th June 2010 12:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Vidhyasagarkku enna korachal? avarai mattum bash pannalaamaa?
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 12:17 PM [Full View]
Correct but IR>VS is simply a fact Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by MADDY
Vidhyasagarkku enna korachal? avarai mattum bash pannalaamaa?
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 12:18 PM [Full View]
And also in Ragini being miraculously "saved" by nature in the fall off the cliff, in effect it's the "nature" (and 'absurdity' of the situation) that confronts his choice, dilemma to finish her off. And the world view of Bandit in Rashomon is also that some of his choices are 'inexplicable', the breeze and all that. (Here Veera mentally replays how she falls in slow-mo. Originally Posted by Plum
)
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From: NOV on 29th June 2010 12:28 PM [Full View]
ok, let me explain myself. Originally Posted by NOV
NONSENSE! Originally Posted by MADDY
one example: in the year 2007, VS > IR
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 12:35 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
Why go for Vidyasagar? Even Baradwaj did it... Dhayavu seidhu yaarum avarukku enna kuraichalnu kekkaadheenga. Enakku badhil theriyalai....
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 12:50 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
ok, let me explain myself. Originally Posted by NOV
NONSENSE! Originally Posted by MADDY
one example: in the year 2007, VS > IR
NOV ... please ...
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 12:52 PM [Full View]
I havent said much on the BGM anyway. I thought you were being sarcastic about the Zulu torture method to ward off Ramayana reference baiters so I put in that BGM bit. Originally Posted by MADDY
Vidyasagar kooda dhaan symphony orchestra pannittaru, so rendum onnu aaiduma? Originally Posted by Plum
As my siggy says, rahman is a great ocean spanning across many watershed moments........i mean breaking conventions is not the only aspect of arr's bgm........his grasp of abstractness and putting it together in music is legendary stuff.......i know u dont rate rahman high and u have problems with the entire philosophy of rahman's BGM - point taken several times - lets move on...... Originally Posted by Plum
U r unneccessary mock of BGM from nowhere is clearly rahman bashing - if u r not realising it, let me do the honors..........and u end up painting a 'intolerant' shade on me/other rahman fans - wat worse u make sure ppl. do not miss rahman bashing with ur footnote - niruthhikonga Originally Posted by Plum
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Oscar kuduthAchu - everyone knows he is great - adhukKaga VTV album-ai pugazhAma irukkOmA? Appo just because my point is made about orthogonal BGM(of which incidentally there wasnt much in Ravanan.), I should not talk about it in light of new evidence? In any case I didnt and I am hesitant to even put anything on Rahman's BGM here, and that itself is a victory for you. Do you need more?
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 12:52 PM [Full View]
konjam thoongalaam-nu ponaa, romba over-a poiduchu intha thread ...
heard that priyamani is in love with prithvi ? ... please discuss about it here ...
naan part 4 aarambikanum-la
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From: Cinefan on 29th June 2010 12:56 PM [Full View]
k-g,
You sure Mani made the movie from the angle you are looking at?
Small doubt-what's that with film makers taking pot shots at hindu motifs,beliefs blah blah blah
How about doing the same for left beliefs,minority beliefs also?
Educated film maker,media man-nna leftist intellectual thaana?Right wing ellam fools-a?
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 01:14 PM [Full View]
VIKRAM AND PRIYAMANI INVITED TO THE US
June 28, 2010
Home > More news
Vikram and Priyamani are invited to attend the annual convention of FeTNA (Federation of Tamil Sangams of North America) in Connecticut, US as special guests. The invitee list also includes Bharathiraja, Santhanam and Thamarai. The yearly event, which is being held for the past 23 years, will see a turnout of hundreds of Tamil population residing across USA from July 3 – 5. It will be a congregation of Tamils to recognize community achievements, organize professional forums, and enjoy music, dance, literature and theatre performances.
The convention will also feature Harris Jeyaraj’s musical evening with prominent singers from the Tamil industry. Entertainment skits and other programs are also planned by various US based Tamil Sangams, according to a press release
behindwoods.com
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From: NOV on 29th June 2010 01:14 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
NOV ... please ...Democratization of insult
Desecration of holy cows
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 01:21 PM [Full View]
aama, itha quote panni -na mattum, ethu venum-naalum sollalaam Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by Pras
NOV ... please ...Democratization of insult
Desecration of holy cows
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From: NOV on 29th June 2010 01:24 PM [Full View]
well, mozhi songs are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maaya kannaadi songs :P
ok, ok, end dig
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 01:34 PM [Full View]
year 2001, rahman composed parthaale paravasam....
same year BharathWaj composed paandavar bhoomi ....
paandavar bhoomi songs >>>>>> PP songs
well ... now... BW>ARR
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 01:46 PM [Full View]
and one or two years later ... manmadha raasa beat every song that year ... so Dheena is the best ?? Originally Posted by Sarna
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 01:50 PM [Full View]
again, that reminds me of some super hit movies with super hit songs composed by la la la hero SA Rajkumar
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 01:54 PM [Full View]
Cinefan,
I'm not categorizing all leftists to be automatically intellectuals and right-wing to be automatically propagandists/extremists.
Mani's angle is 'irreverent' to Hindu Epic's motifs and subverts or rather 'inverts' our outlook on both sides (some say that he makes the decidedly good of the Epic 'bad' and decidedly bad of the Epic 'good', and therefore just as 'flawed' like the original text it was based on).
Not sure I'd call him an 'intellectual' but I personally 'appreciate' that he, for once, boldly sides with the 'marginalized'.
And it's not that he is always acceptable. To be honest, I didn't see eye to eye with Mani on Gurubhai
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 02:08 PM [Full View]
Oh yes, kid. That is a significant part of criticism on the movie but that's where I see that it is merely a side-effect of Mani's lack of interest in the politics hereof; that everything builds up to "sudu, SP, sudu", and the romantic, surreal, visually breathtaking, eye-pleasing descent of a dying Beera from the cliff(with the best BGM part of the movie to boot - that song is a stroke of genius as BGM there!)...it looks to me everything else was backtracked from there in the script. And it has what is to me a very personally pleasing resonance of Dil Se, where an even more innocent protagonist decides to take the bullet in the heart(or the bomb on his groins, if I have to be more painfully, prosaically accurate), and everything else about the script dissolves into the magnificience of that moment. Aesthetically - and not jus visually - that is/was very pleasing but I wouldnt either accuse or credit Mani of "speaking for the downtrodden" or "taking on the right-wingers" .some say that he makes the decidedly good of the Epic 'bad' and decidedly bad of the Epic 'good', and therefore just as 'flawed' like the original text it was based on
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 02:11 PM [Full View]
And to boot, kid, I personally feel that whatever speaking for the marginalised came off in the movie must be from Suhasini's side - note the bourgeois, "conservative" way in which this concern is expressed through and through. I can confirm this if I get to see Ravan, and if, as claimed by the Bachchan lobby, such water-tight exposition of the plot, the motivations and the philosophy of the characters dont come through with the dialogue in the Hindi version. Let me just think aloud until then.
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 02:14 PM [Full View]
isn't this the second movie of Vikram with ARR ??
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From: Siv.S on 29th June 2010 02:18 PM [Full View]
yes! Originally Posted by Pras
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 02:20 PM [Full View]
danks Originally Posted by Siv.S
yes! Originally Posted by Pras
.. i know the first one is Puthiya Mannargal, Vikram, Vikraman, ARR ... but was just wondering if there were another movie i missed ...
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From: Punnaimaran on 29th June 2010 02:23 PM [Full View]
Who was the MD for Shanker movie Anniyan?
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From: NOV on 29th June 2010 02:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
Harris Jeyraj
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 02:29 PM [Full View]
I disagree on two counts, Originally Posted by Plum
a) I think this divide between downtrodden and established order has always fascinated Mani. Right from Nayakan, Thalapathy days. I think, at heart, he speaks a lot for the downtrodden (and not necessarily treating 'em as factions but as 'humanly' as possible - Eg. Shyama/LTTE in Kannathil to Veera/clan in Raavanan to Koirala in Dil Se) and failure of the presupposed 'Order'.
So it'd be extremely wrong to assume he 'backtracks' from that ending and wrote the script.
b) I don't think he's taking on right-wingers in Dil Se. But in Raavan, he's managed to "wrong" the pin-up deity of ring wing extremist factions and that his clan (Dev's police force) with failure of its makeup.
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 02:41 PM [Full View]
kid, need an exposition here. What I am saying is that Ravan's expression of its concern for the downtrodden seems to be at a different plane to Nayagan. My take is that we are getting to see Suhasini's expression here rather than Mani's and that the story of Veeraiya thawing for Ragini seems more - for want of a better word - authentically Mani. I can quote evidence - like the Silappadhigaram recital by Ragini, which is where "Suhasini as the model for Ragini" theory takes off and the under-exposited change in Ragini's attitude towards Veeraiyan and the shaping of her reading of the politics as expressed in the dialogues - with Suhasini having written it, it is difficult to say if Mani intended the details to be so of this characterisation or just left it to her interpretation but I lean towards the latter - but evidence is waht we read into it after formulating the theory so let me desist from that.
I guess I'll have to brave it to watch Junior's Ravan contrary to my original plans if only to solve this intrigue.
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 02:51 PM [Full View]
wah - again u r trying to paint me as some destructive force stopping any constructive criticism of rahman.......... Originally Posted by Plum
u r point and complain abt rahman's philosophy of composing has been said several times - and there was no new evidence or twist here as u cleverly suggest..............the only reason i see for u to mock raavanan's BGM at the slightest oppurtunity is because u want to bash rahman - simple.........
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 02:55 PM [Full View]
Even Mani's point of view is inhibited by the 'bourgeois'. Most of his 'conflict' films are told as evidenced by middle class. He is always fascinated by free-spirited women but also 'conservative' values throw in for good measure.
I'm not belittling Suhasini's contribution, but I don't see her inputs taken without Mani's consent..
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 02:58 PM [Full View]
If that is what you need - to paint any criticism of Rahman's BGM as bashing - granted. And I didnt even criticise Ravan's BGM much. As I have mentioned in some of the previous posts, it is outstanding at moments and what I refrained from saying - poor at moments. Definitely, I was happy to see less of the orthogonality which is a favoured tool for this composer.
Yeah, I am a Rahman basher. Ofcourse. How else can you rubbish anything other than "Rahman's BGM is outstanding in every moment". If that is what you want, granted. Now I am free to express my views.
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:03 PM [Full View]
I dont want to expound further here on some of the roots of this theory I have. Will PM. In brief, despite the commonality of their birth-related background, and even the broad alignment of belief systems and philosophies, Mani and Suhasini seem to me be of much different "cultural" roots. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:05 PM [Full View]
btw, i dont get one thing - wats this analogy
downtrodden=left wing
rich, killer gang=right wing
communism is the largest killer in human race ever - Mao zedang killed 60 million people in china, stalin killed 1 million people in russia - not long ago, communist govt massacred farmers in nandigram............communism is built entirely on blood and gore and destruction of humankind.......
downtrodden get support neither from rightist nor from left wingers.........mani's potshots at establishment(keeps referring as "mettukudi" in the movie) can either be taken as right or left wingers.......
cinefan, twisting of ramayana was very much required - i cant imagine a ramanand sagar's story for this movie - how boring it would have been.....this is just a work of fiction - i think we can relax........i felt the juxtaposition of current "land confiscations of tribes in india" = confiscation of lanka from ravanan as a great fictional point from mani..........i mean, i also felt mani wanted to tell that Lord ram was much like bush - rescuing sita was secondary, confiscating raavanan's land was primary task ..............and yes he has clearly lost out on being objective- he did side with raavanan or the tribes this time around
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 03:05 PM [Full View]
I agree on the "cultural" root point, I could strongly sense that..
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 03:05 PM [Full View]
Plum,
Couple of weeks back when I made a post abt DSP's BGM work in 'Singam', one gentleman came out of nowhere and compared that with ARR's. It was certainly not in Raavanan/VTV threads if my memory goes right. Is that still part of 'constructive criticism' or do we have a new word to describe it?
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:13 PM [Full View]
it was not criticism but "mock" and that too totally unneccessary coming out of nowhere without any context...........ofcourse, i wont let some shallow mockery on thalaivar as constructive criticism....... Originally Posted by Plum
thats the fact....... Originally Posted by Plum
all rahman fans have criticised raavanan BGM with context- if u care to read......... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:13 PM [Full View]
That was for people who keep throwing "Break rules" as a catch-all defence for all criticism on Rahman. If that is to be taken as Rahman bashing, go ahead. It kind if ties up with one of my favourite theories - we accuse others of being bashers not because they bash our idols but because we realise that more than the idol, when the questioning is of our opinion, the "me" in that is more responsible for our reaction than the devotion to the idol.
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 03:17 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
I didn't call Mani a leftist intellectual or that is the focus of Raavan.
About failings of communism - it's failed leadership and not necessarily the ideology. And in this regard, it's also true in failures of many different ideologies (communal and religion-based, in the latter, the very text it's based on, is fundamentally flawed but that's for another day)
In Raavanan, it isn't just Dev is "Bush" but also that it's his men who are at fault, and he seems 'unaware' of this. And therefore, the very pin-up deity is imperfect..
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From: ajaybaskar on 29th June 2010 03:17 PM [Full View]
Nobody criticizes Rahman on that front except a few hubbers.. Reasons obvious..
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:17 PM [Full View]
If you have a need to slot me into a pigeon hole, by all means, have the pleasure. Originally Posted by MADDY
it was not criticism but "mock" and that too totally unneccessary coming out of nowhere without any context...........ofcourse, i wont let some shallow mockery on thalaivar as constructive criticism....... Originally Posted by Plum
thats the fact....... Originally Posted by Plum
all rahman fans have criticised raavanan BGM with context- if u care to read......... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 03:19 PM [Full View]
yaetho nadakuthunnu therithu.. aanaa enna nadakuthunnu thaan theiril
However at the end, Pras is a happy man
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:21 PM [Full View]
Plum, i appreciate ur efforts to divert this topic......problem here is ur bringing rahman out of conext and bash him.....u r point of rahman breaking-rules BGM and its flaws is debatable and a decent enough discussion but u bringing anti-rahman points out of the blue to satisfy ur urge to bash him is the problem........i mean, ur intent is to bash rahman and not criticise his methods - its amply evident homuch ever u want to trivialise it Originally Posted by Plum
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:24 PM [Full View]
illa illa, adhu podhuva clarify pannen Originally Posted by kid-glove
yeah, i mean, he "stands" for his gang and he is responsible for his men's deeds........and yea, its a pretty unique view on Lord Ram as i thought it would just portray him a "doubting" husband - its beyond that - brilliant mani Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:31 PM [Full View]
Maddy, Ajay brought in that Singam post and the response was to that - so where am I diverting the topic?
You brought in the Zulu reference and my response was to that specific comment - it didnt come out of the blue
1) There is African references in the Ravan BGM - fact
2) I am uncomforable with it - fact. And not because of the rootedness argument but simply because I think to bring in something just because it is different from before is just a gimmick.
3) Why should I wait until you post about Zulus to bash Rahman. In my very first post after seeing the movie, I could have made the same point, right? I didnt, because of precisely what you said - that point has been made and I didnt see a need to reiterate
4) when you posted the African reference - and I read that as sarcasm on people who kept rubbishing the 14 day ramayan link as amateur - I mentioned the african chants in BGM. Maybe I could have refrained from it - but that would be dishonesty
This is the sequence of events - you draw your own conclusion from this.
If Rahman basher is what you think me of, that is what you think me of. Fair enough. From my side, I think there is some motivation on your side to paint me as a Rahman basher because I think with the aid of that, you can completely rubbish any opinion of mine on Rahman. And I think that IS an agenda of Rahman fans here (except people like LM1982 and a few others)
Having said this, can we move on to the future without reading any additional motivation to each other's posts than what the posts say?
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 03:31 PM [Full View]
Plum, u nailed everything correctly Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:35 PM [Full View]
kid/Maddy, I think the most disappointing feature of Dev was his complete blackness. I think thats where Mani faltered. In a sense, that just makes Veeraiya the Ram and Dev the Raavanan. So, Raavanan infact continues to get the short shrift from history written by the biased. Thinking about the pre-release one-lners and promotonal material("Is there a Ravan in each of us? Is everything black and white?") that was the most disappointing aspect of the movie. Such convenient blacking of Dev reeked of "non-Maniratnam".
(Remember that even Periyavar of Pagal Nilavu - before his marquee days - had wonderful shades of grey!)
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From: groucho070 on 29th June 2010 03:37 PM [Full View]
Does anyone even remember this role Originally Posted by Plum
?
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 03:38 PM [Full View]
Well, groucho, I do. And I thought that was perhaps one of the earliest indications that Satyaraj had his own range of roles where he could excel.
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 03:40 PM [Full View]
why not Originally Posted by groucho070
Does anyone even remember this role Originally Posted by Plum
?
Sathyaraj
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:40 PM [Full View]
dont kid us, Plum - there was no need for u to bring BGM point there since i was responding to a completely different topic.........there was simply no connection or need for u to bring in BGM point there........summa udhaar udaadhinga...... Originally Posted by Plum
naa edhume pannala - u r proving urself as the primary rahman basher of the hub by ur blatant attacks..........and its not that we can respond by hitting back at IR - its just that we dont care Originally Posted by Plum
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From: groucho070 on 29th June 2010 03:42 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Plum
Finally, something nice to see in this thread. HR, where are you? You don't get to see this often. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sathyaraj
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 03:45 PM [Full View]
hmm not really - Dev or Ram is correct in his own way - he doesent care of "isms" - he just wants to protect law and work honestly for the govt.(which wants to confiscate tribe's lands)........he is a cold, steely cop caring only for the law however unethical it is......and he is afterall trying to rescue his kidnapped wife - i think it was nicely balanced...... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: raghavendran on 29th June 2010 04:18 PM [Full View]
Mani Ratnam will have to thank the Tamil Nadu government for the five day holidays that helped his Raavanan stay afloat at the number one position.
The film, due to the curiosity it has generated, has netted Rs 81 lakhs in its second weekend, a marginal Rs 9 lakh drop from its opening weekend.
Raavanan
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Pritviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Priya Mani
Director: Mani Ratnam
Camera, Locations, Vikram
Story, Screenplay, dialogues
Trade Facts : Averageaverage a?...marginal dropnnu sollitu average a ?...usually sify gives out a verdict of a film only after 3 or 4weeks after a release of a film...ippo adhukkule average..adhuvum major drop in collectionslam illame..over 2.5 crs in chennai is awesome...but average..sifyum kanmoodithanama edhirkarange...
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From: raghavendran on 29th June 2010 04:18 PM [Full View]
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From: raghavendran on 29th June 2010 04:30 PM [Full View]
" Saw Ravanan last night!!! Mani sir.. Only u possible."--VENKAT PRABHU ON FACEBOOK
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From: sathya_1979 on 29th June 2010 04:38 PM [Full View]
Maddy bro, chill. As u suggested already enuf REPEATED attempts are being made to bash thalaivar and wind us up avanga ippadidhaan esamaan. idhellaam paaththaa thozhil panna mudiyumaa? Venumna rendu antacid tablets vaangi tharalaam!
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 04:51 PM [Full View]
Primary Rahman Basher - thanks for that. Sorry Anban, try harder - the title is mine
Some people here seem to get peace by bashing Mani without rhyme or reason. Some others seem to get it by labelling others as vayatherichal party or bashers. Same difference.
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From: MADDY on 29th June 2010 04:52 PM [Full View]
illa sathya - Plum appadi illa.......he doesent envy rahman's success or anything.......he has problems with rahman's style of composing, he loves to mock rahman's style like every fan of any rival groups would do.....its just that i dunno y he is denying this
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 04:59 PM [Full View]
Not sure if you saw the same movie as I did. There is not a redeeming feature to Dev's character, nor is there a hint that he is just a cold-blooded, duty-minded cop. It is not about being on the tribals' side or not - that is not the sole meter for goodness - and see the difference between Hemanth and him when faced with Veera's brother in law - Hemanth tries to uphold law and follow procedure by providing the suspect with first-aid(Nowt hat is a duty-bound cop protecting and working honestly - and we are talking about Hemanth who is not above raping a tribal women - even that Hemanth has some humanity in him to help the injured brother in law of Veera but not Dev). Dev is just this monster who will not mind torturing a suspect even, and that too without any purpose. He is in other words not just a duty-bound cop - he is one who enjoys the violence he unleashes for just that. Why did he kill sakkarai? Because he can - not with any specific end purpose in mind or towards catching Beera. Much easier would have been following sakkarai and finding Veera or getting Veera to the negotiating table and then kill them all. He killed because he can. And he knows he can unleash more violence and ultimately catch Beera without the aid of sakkarai. That is how black he is. Originally Posted by MADDY
hmm not really - Dev or Ram is correct in his own way - he doesent care of "isms" - he just wants to protect law and work honestly for the govt.(which wants to confiscate tribe's lands)........he is a cold, steely cop caring only for the law however unethical it is......and he is afterall trying to rescue his kidnapped wife - i think it was nicely balanced...... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 05:08 PM [Full View]
Maddy, thanks for understanding(the first part of your comment). I definitely dont envy his success NOW. After Roja? No envy. I dismissed him as a one film wonder then like many of my friends Originally Posted by MADDY
After Gentleman? Yes. After Thiruda Thiruda, Pudhiya Mugam and some more movies in the 90's. It went on until Duet, which I think was his first flop. Ironically, it was the first album of Rahman that I liked unreservedly. adhukkappuram avar success pArthu endha poRAmaiyum illai.
As for second part, I dont like mocking Rahman's style of BGM as much as his fans' resorting to "break the rules" as a defence. When it comes with specific such defence - like why African chants is relevant there rather than "nobody has used it before; he used it; why should he not use it?" - I will respect it. kid_glove has in various forums, made such actual points about Rahman's BGM(with specific examples) which were an education for me. But here I find mostly "he breaks rules. accept it. else you are a basher". Instead, if I find responses that elucidate why people think that Rahman made the right choice of BGM there, I will probably have more respect for that opinion. To be fair, one person who does that sometimes, is you, although we end up not agreeing on it.
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 05:28 PM [Full View]
same here.. Saw the movie after writing entrance exam in JIPMER, Pondy :P Originally Posted by Plum
Maddy, thanks for understanding(the first part of your comment). I definitely dont envy his success NOW. After Roja? No envy. I dismissed him as a one film wonder then like many of my friends Originally Posted by MADDY
After Gentleman? Yes. After Thiruda Thiruda, Pudhiya Mugam and some more movies in the 90's. It went on until Duet, which I think was his first flop. Ironically, it was the first album of Rahman that I liked unreservedly. adhukkappuram avar success pArthu endha poRAmaiyum illai.
I still remember, +2 Chemistry tuition, oru paiyan late aa vanthittu reason.. Gentelman Song in oliyum oliyum, Song and PD oada dance.. chance ae illainnu sollittu irunthaan :P aduththa vaaram naan wait panni oliyum oliyum paarthittu late aa vanthen
btw his first flop is Puthiya mugam, then uzhavan appuram college padikkum boathu mokkayaan Ratchagan padam kooda opening day Music kaaga paarthoam Time changed..Job searching etc.. kitta thatta 3 hours Music kaetkavae selava panna naan innaikku very rarely listen to songs in Audio system / Computer Ippa anthalavukku ARR songs enna attract panrathilla.. HJ and YSR Music attracts better more than all this i am happy with listening to IR songs or some old songs nowadays than tuning into new songs.
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From: Cinefan on 29th June 2010 05:32 PM [Full View]
DIGRESSION,SORRY
Maddy,
I am the last person wanting a Ramanand Sagar version of the Ramayana all over again.
There is nothing wrong in trying to give a different spin to the characters and without watching the movie I don't want to draw inferences.
I was just thinking aloud as to why the media(Print,TV,Cinema)in general love to tinker/negate/criticize/get sarcastic with the Hindu texts and don't dare attempt it with the others?
It has nothing to do with Mani at all.
Is it that there is nothing worth talking about with the other religions OR the fact that Hinduism is actually not a religion at all but different way's of thinking about the same larger goal collected together and given a name.This encourages discussion/interpretations and so is more prone to individual POV's.
I wonder why that in every film I can remember it's some christian missionary institution which is the epitome of do-good and not some mutt
Why a Rahul Dholakia or a Nandita Das makes a Muslim POV about Godhra but not a Hindu POV.
Why a Khalid Mohammed makes a 'Fiza' romanticizing terrorism in Kashmir but does not talk a word on the plight of the Pandit's there.
Why the above mentioned films are sensitive pieces of art but a Khadgam by krishna vamshi is a piece of rabble rousing hindu fundamantalist shit.
Why a Gurumurthy Or Cho are never intellectuals but BJP/RSS supporter/Editor and proprietor while a Romila Thapar is.
Why a entry tax/tax after 7 seven days stay on buses carrying piligrims to the Amarnath yatra by the J&K government never gets reported while crores are given as subsidy to the Haj piligrimage.
Why it's so bad to have a uniform civil code.
Why it's illegal to buy property in J&K by people who are not from that state while it's Ok in the rest of India.
It's these overt discriminations in the name of secularism(these guys don't even know the meaning of the word,I think)that bugs me.
Who knows I might get branded a right wing extremist!
k-g,
Ramayana is flawed from a certain angle but that text too requires as much thinking/analysis as you are doing to this film.There are subtexts/symbolic representations which need to be dug out.As you said some other time in some other thread.
END DIGRESSION
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 05:32 PM [Full View]
TM, you didnt say anything about whether current IR songs attract you that much
(Wait, dont answer, I think I know the answer )
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From: Pras on 29th June 2010 05:37 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
yaetho nadakuthunnu therithu.. aanaa enna nadakuthunnu thaan theiril
However at the end, Pras is a happy man
i am happy from the day raavanan released
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 05:40 PM [Full View]
no.. u dont know the complete story Originally Posted by Plum
TM, you didnt say anything about whether current IR songs attract you that much
(Wait, dont answer, I think I know the answer )
as a album, the last one i liked completely was Kaathalukku mariyaathai...
though i like Virumaandi and Naan kadavul to some extent.. hardly would have listened 5 times
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From: Sarna on 29th June 2010 05:46 PM [Full View]
TM anna, wt abt kaasi/azhagi/en mana vaanil ?
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 05:51 PM [Full View]
cinefan, have you considered the thought that a Mani or a Kamal might have been more exposed to hindu mythology and scriptures more than any other religion's? Would that explain the general choice of hindu beliefs as a target for such movies?
Ok, think of it this way - how many normal christian or other religion characters do "heroes" play in commercial cinema? I cant remember many. I cant remember a single role of Vijay as a Christian(Poove Unakkaga? Dont remember) while he is one in real life.
In general, commercial cinema is apathetic to other religions so expect the same when it comes to the other side of it
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From: Plum on 29th June 2010 05:56 PM [Full View]
idhai nAn edhir pArthEn TM. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no.. u dont know the complete story Originally Posted by Plum
TM, you didnt say anything about whether current IR songs attract you that much
(Wait, dont answer, I think I know the answer )
as a album, the last one i liked completely was Kaathalukku mariyaathai...
though i like Virumaandi and Naan kadavul to some extent.. hardly would have listened 5 times
unga template-la I know a few people in real life - avangaLA vechu ungaLA edai pOttadhu perumbAlum correctAvE irukku
(assuming what you post in Hub is "uNmai uNmaiyai thavira verillai"*)
* except Box office results of Surya movies
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 05:56 PM [Full View]
Kaasi i liked.. but TV la songs naan paarkura samayathula vanthaa paarkirathoada sari.. Azhagi padamae innum muzhusaa paarkala Originally Posted by Sarna
In the past 10 years or so, padam paarthapiragu songs impress aanaathaan further listening in mostly.. Intha year la konjam change aagalaamnu VTV, Raavanan, Paiyya songs ellaam padam varathukku munnaala one or 2 times kaetirukaen.. avvlothaan :P
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From: Thirumaran on 29th June 2010 05:58 PM [Full View]
:P Originally Posted by Plum
unga template-la I know a few people in real life - avangaLA vechu ungaLA edai pOttadhu perumbAlum correctAvE irukku
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Originally Posted by Plum
* except Box office results of Surya movies
* inga silar naan sonnathaa solratha ellaam namba padaathu.. surukkamaa sollanumnaa, theera visaaripathae mei
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 06:01 PM [Full View]
Cinefan,
The fraudulence of minority appeasing and targeting Hinduism with deceit of 'secularism' is true, but as you said, it'd be out of context to discuss that here. And yes, it's not just Hindu texts that I'm skeptical about...
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From: kid-glove on 29th June 2010 06:07 PM [Full View]
And Indians have changed the actual meaning of "Secular". That it's always better to read/write/understand that word in Indian context.
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From: Cinefan on 29th June 2010 06:55 PM [Full View]
Plum,
Agree with you on the religion of the 'hero' thing and yes, maybe Mani and Kamal take on Hindu beliefs due to exposure but I still fell they should go to the other side also.
My grouse too is more on the print and Tv media than cinema.
Nobody goes to movies to see the truth or fact but media is supposed to report facts if not stand up for the truth.You should not let your personal beliefs cloud reporting unlike cinema where actually personal interpretations bring in honesty to the narrative.
Anyway,back to Raavanan,people who have seen it,please discuss.
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From: raghavendran on 29th June 2010 07:01 PM [Full View]
eventhough i didnt like ash's performance or depth in charecter..her certain expressions needs a ..esp her reaction wen vikram asks her whether she wil stay with them or not...she is best wen she works with maniratnam..
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From: subash43 on 29th June 2010 09:24 PM [Full View]
Chennai Box-office- June 25 to 27
Mani Ratnam will have to thank the Tamil Nadu government for the five day holidays that helped his Raavanan stay afloat at the number one position.
The film, due to the curiosity it has generated, has netted Rs 81 lakhs in its second weekend, a marginal Rs 9 lakh drop from its opening weekend.
Raavanan
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Pritviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Priya Mani
Director: Mani Ratnam
Up's: Camera, Locations, Vikram
Down's : Story, Screenplay, dialogues
Trade Facts : Average
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullsto...7&cid=13525926
sify
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 09:27 AM [Full View]
Ippa anthalavukku ARR songs enna attract panrathilla.. HJ and YSR Music attracts better more than all this i am happy with listening to IR songs or some old songs nowadays than tuning into new songs. - THIRUMARAN
suriya-vukku ARR music pannathan unggalukku ARR music attrack pannumo ippa??
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 11:38 AM [Full View]
For argument sake (I know 'plausibility' is not the problem here but just as to defend Dev's overtly dark character, a bit)
1) The burnt alive Policemen (in opening juxtaposition of events) are Dev's close aides and his emotional connection is ommitted in the film's runtime. Dev is introduced when they collect the remains of "incenerated cops".
2) After his arrival to the town, there's a bomb flinged at him, that blasts mid-air and Dev is fortunate to be alive..
3) Abduction of Ragini is out of law and tyrannical to Dev vis-a-vis "arresting" Vennila is to abide by "law" - but what happens to her in the station isn't a "direct" failure of his. His involvment is both consequential and inconsequential, Is he to blame for the wronged uniform men (in Vennila's gang rape)? Is he "aware" this happened?
4) He's an 'encounter specialist' and his mission is to finish off the violent criminals. There's a moment where Dev gathers there's a 'rat' in his unit and he assaults this man (we don't see how Dev got the information). To which the corrupt cop reasons his family and especially his school-going children will be affected if he operates against Veera. Dev is still 'insular' in this regard and will always be "distant" to Veera and this world.
Veera will always be a Cop-slaughtering machine and Dev is employed to find and kill him. it's this "order" that an encounter specialist abides by. And not'journaling' the human condition - he's not AIR journalist of Dil Se or writer of Kannathil muthamittal or the newspaper reporter of Bombay.
5) Put into context what Dev makes of Ragini's yellow salwar clad scarecrow, trussed with cowardly Veera's brother-in-law (whose hands are severed) as if they are wedded together. Dev is offended by this and even says (with that nasal accent), he'll not be reduced to this by Veera. And to twist the severed hand to get information from him, is partly the design of foccussed cop (how 'human' could you be when there are numerous charges of crime and inhumanity against Veera), anguish to know the location of his wife, and ultimately, to Dev, this man is some kind of crude joke drawn on him by Veera.
Dev's spousal design is to be anxious of what Veera could do to Ragini. Notice how Gnanaprakasam(Karthik) corrects an old lady in the "investigative" session with different village people, when she says Veera is capable of seducing "all women" and watch out for perturbed look on Dev. Look at Kalvare song, and sensual side of Ragini, wouldn't any Husband be in anxiety and fear of copulation with Veera?
6) Hemant's tonsured, stripped and from what Gnanaprakasham tries to say (and is witheld by Dev as if defeaning himself), is castrated I think. This further antagonizes Veera's men in Dev's case.
7) When Sakkarai runs (after Dev loads his gun), Dev would only see Sakkarai as an escaping convict, and finishing him isn't implausible.
Is it feasible to follow Sakkarai through dense woods at that time of the night?
Now Consider that before her actual abduction, an uninvolved Ragini casually opines Veera ought to be killed. Just after abduction, she openly abuses Veera and co. Keeps making "threats" to him, and that she will get Veera killed. Like her, the audience too side against Veera at this point. And the ensuing events of course make the audience (and her) to empathize with him.
To show how "wrong" Dev is to show his 'wronged' uprightness. Or rather blindness (Dev symbolically sports dark shades/coolers) of Encounter specialist to execute "criminals" and free up the region for governance, it's the failure of 'good governance' that worries us in hindsight (and why Dev is "wrong" on many counts), and how our perspective changes about Veera (that he is right on some counts).
In conclusion, the film bluntly posits the sexual assault and crimes by state governance (by decidedly upper class khaki men). And otherwise 'good' men like Dev will be blindly following 'orders' without a probe into other side and their act of violence is in deed not 'righteous'.
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From: Thirumaran on 30th June 2010 11:52 AM [Full View]
PLum, Originally Posted by A.ANAND
Ippa anthalavukku ARR songs enna attract panrathilla.. HJ and YSR Music attracts better more than all this i am happy with listening to IR songs or some old songs nowadays than tuning into new songs. - THIRUMARAN
suriya-vukku ARR music pannathan unggalukku ARR music attrack pannumo ippa??
inga paarunga.. naan sonnatha ozhungaa kooda padikaama, ARR kku ethiraa etho sonnathaa ninaichikittu, athyam en Surya liking ayum combine panni paesuratha :P
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From: groucho070 on 30th June 2010 11:56 AM [Full View]
More from my brother:
During vikram's slow motion fall, ARR sings 'Naan Varuven' , not sure what that means. And notice that when a batalion of soldiers was shooting at vikram and Aiswarya, who was just next to him, never got hit at all. This reminds me of Roja climax.
Also when Priya mani was taken away at police station, no one seems to want to rescue here and yet in another scene, Vikram and gang abushes Police camp ruthlessly.
For two year in making , these are stupid flaws.
Somewhere along the way Mani is getting more credit than he deserves for his script. But I ain't no pundit, that's why I didn't discuss the script in my review.
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From: AravindMano on 30th June 2010 12:00 PM [Full View]
Nicely put Doctor. Originally Posted by kid-glove
A similar question would be, is gnanaprakasam aware fo Sakkarai's murder? The whole scene has been conceived as if to keep Gnanaprakasam out of the action. In the next shot we see him brushing his teeth in a monkey-like posture.
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 12:15 PM [Full View]
The soldiers are well trained so that they are able to aim accurately Vikram leaving aish :P and If I remember correctly Aish bows(bends down) and looks back Vikram while shooting happening. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 12:20 PM [Full View]
emotional attachment groucho Originally Posted by groucho070
everyone was worrying about Vikram and their emotional attachment towards vikram made them to forget priyamani... quite natural
Note:- I am not pundit but paamaran
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From: Pras on 30th June 2010 12:22 PM [Full View]
peiy-a (ghost) varuven-u solluraaruDuring vikram's slow motion fall, ARR sings 'Naan Varuven' , not sure what that means.
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 12:27 PM [Full View]
may be like this.... vikram is Engifying for aish, so the background song is vikram's manasaatchi singing with the meaning "aduththa jenmaththula naanE varuvEn... unnai manamudippEn " :P Originally Posted by Pras
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From: raajarasigan on 30th June 2010 12:35 PM [Full View]
indha padathai porutha varaikkum ellame assumptions than... athu than periya problem... Originally Posted by Sarna
may be like this.... vikram is Engifying for aish, so the background song is vikram's manasaatchi singing with the meaning "aduththa jenmaththula naanE varuvEn... unnai manamudippEn " :P Originally Posted by Pras
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From: Pras on 30th June 2010 12:36 PM [Full View]
appo innum oru 2 years-la raavanan part 2 varum-nu solluringa ? set in a futuristic world ? adutha jenmam Originally Posted by Sarna
may be like this.... vikram is Engifying for aish, so the background song is vikram's manasaatchi singing with the meaning "aduththa jenmaththula naanE varuvEn... unnai manamudippEn " :P Originally Posted by Pras
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From: groucho070 on 30th June 2010 12:42 PM [Full View]
Right. Annana kapatunggoo...tanggachi ekkedunalum kettupogattum. On my part, I was wondering what was Prabhu, the big brother, doing during the entire ordeal. Vikram-uku mattumthan tanggachi paasama? Originally Posted by Sarna
emotional attachment groucho everyone was worrying about Vikram and their emotional attachment towards vikram made them to forget priyamani... quite natural
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From: groucho070 on 30th June 2010 12:47 PM [Full View]
Absolutely. Mani 5 adi think pannurarna, ivargal 15 adi think pannurangga, yuvar haanar Originally Posted by raajarasigan
indha padathai porutha varaikkum ellame assumptions than... athu than periya problem...
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From: ajaybaskar on 30th June 2010 12:47 PM [Full View]
Avaru pazhaiya soarum, vengaayamum edukka poirundhaar!!!
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From: groucho070 on 30th June 2010 12:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: Siv.S on 30th June 2010 12:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 12:50 PM [Full View]
kalyaanam was like thiruvizhaa... everyone was overjoyed... but sudden incident of vikram getting shot was a shock for those people... andha shock'la irundhu avanga veliya var'radhukkulla priyamani kadaththal happened.... imo i dont think there is a flaw Originally Posted by groucho070
Right. Annana kapatunggoo...tanggachi ekkedunalum kettupogattum. Originally Posted by Sarna
emotional attachment groucho everyone was worrying about Vikram and their emotional attachment towards vikram made them to forget priyamani... quite natural
me too was wondering and made myself calm that prabhu is no more hero and just a sidekick Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 12:54 PM [Full View]
ajay
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 12:59 PM [Full View]
Aren't they convicted, even Dev says Singarasan and Sakkarai are the two closest aides of Veera. IN the very next shot we see both brothers and Singarasan's wife with wounded Veera on top of a speeding lorry. Anyway, Priyamani is arrested for disreputing the cops as dogs, and is released after a single night under investigation and custody. Again we are being wat Hitch would put as 'The Plausibes'..
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From: Siv.S on 30th June 2010 12:59 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
the lyrics goes like this..
Naan varuven meendum varuven
Unnai naan thoduven
Uyiraal thoduven
Oru pillai ezhudum kirukkal than vazhkkaiaa
Athil artham dedi alaivaithey vetkaiyaa
Artham puriyum pothu vaazhkkai maaruthey
Vaazkkai maarum pothu artham maaruthey
Oru kanavu kaatril Mithakkuthey
Athil mithanthu konde selkiren.............
Oru pillai ezhudum kirukkal than vazhkkaiaa
Athil artham dedi alaivaithey vetkaiyaa
Pras ippa neengaley artham kandu pudichukonga
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From: raajarasigan on 30th June 2010 01:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 01:03 PM [Full View]
And I refuse to accept that we are just making assumptions. I disagree, we are making out the story and subtexts from ample evidences in dialogue and visual level.
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 01:05 PM [Full View]
When prabhu starts narrating about Priyamani to aish.... he says something like " enga appaaroda mooththa or chinna dhaaraththOda ponnu dhaan....... " something similarly.... someone who has seen multiple times can quote the exact conversation Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Pras on 30th June 2010 01:06 PM [Full View]
first 4 varigal ippadi irukkumo ?
Naan peya varuven
meendum peya varuven
Unnai naan vida maatten
Uyirai edukaamal vida maatten
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 01:10 PM [Full View]
He says, adhuvum enga appanukku porandhadhu dhEn...
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From: Siv.S on 30th June 2010 01:12 PM [Full View]
Engammmakku porakkalainnalum engappanukku poranthathu than,something like that.... Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 01:18 PM [Full View]
On those lines, yes.
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From: ajaybaskar on 30th June 2010 01:19 PM [Full View]
To be precise.."Engappanukku porandhadu.. Rendaavadhu samsaaram ponnu..."
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 01:23 PM [Full View]
And that Veera had the closest relationship..and she was the most authoritative to him..
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 01:25 PM [Full View]
If this correct, then Vikram is younger brother of Prabhu.... so more importance should be given to prabhu... but Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
even in kedaa kedaa song.... priyamani will be running and opens the door where she dashes vikram... vikram will come after priyamani... everyone including prabhu stops dancing by seeing vikram i was like "enna koduma saravanan idhu" prabhu'vukkE indha nelamayaa
ofcourse Vikram is THE hero... so he will centered for everything
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From: ajaybaskar on 30th June 2010 01:38 PM [Full View]
Prabhu's concentration was limited to the items i mentioned earlier... Idhula eppadi importance edhirpaarkkureenga?
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 01:57 PM [Full View]
And middle/younger brother being Patriachal figure is implausible?
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From: raghavendran on 30th June 2010 02:41 PM [Full View]
y not...its shown that vikarm is the person who leads them and fights for them..so obviously he is the centre figure..he leads...wats wrong in that Originally Posted by Sarna
If this correct, then Vikram is younger brother of Prabhu.... so more importance should be given to prabhu... but Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
even in kedaa kedaa song.... priyamani will be running and opens the door where she dashes vikram... vikram will come after priyamani... everyone including prabhu stops dancing by seeing vikram i was like "enna koduma saravanan idhu" prabhu'vukkE indha nelamayaa
ofcourse Vikram is THE hero... so he will centered for everything
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 02:42 PM [Full View]
ajay, the worry is because of my emotional attachment towards prabhu... a great actor like prabhu doesnt deserve these kind of treatment that too in a MR film
kid, adhu plausible'naadhaan.... ennOda below vaadham sellum
Originally Posted by Sarna
kalyaanam was like thiruvizhaa... everyone was overjoyed... but sudden incident of vikram getting shot was a shock for those people... andha shock'la irundhu avanga veliya var'radhukkulla priyamani kadaththal happened.... imo i dont think there is a flaw Originally Posted by groucho070
Right. Annana kapatunggoo...tanggachi ekkedunalum kettupogattum. Originally Posted by Sarna
emotional attachment groucho everyone was worrying about Vikram and their emotional attachment towards vikram made them to forget priyamani... quite natural
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From: MADDY on 30th June 2010 02:44 PM [Full View]
yes - superb effort from ur side to put it in words Originally Posted by kid-glove
i think this is a very brave and daring attempt from mani to make a film that moves solely on visuals - but im still perturbed by the coherency part.....it was indeed pretty incoherent
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From: MADDY on 30th June 2010 02:52 PM [Full View]
excellent assimilation of narration and im sure its very close to what mani should have thought Originally Posted by kid-glove
...........yea, i wanted to answer Plum - Dev is just a "algorithim" which tries to protect law..........all his acts are pretty much what "straightforward" policemen would do........Dev is black from our point of view, but he is still a law abiding/protecting cop.......
Lord Ram was someone who was known to be this perfect guy -which means he must have been a law abiding, the perfect citizen, protector of law when required and in the end doubts his wife.........im not sure if there are as many character shades of Lord Ram as much we have for krishna or any other mythological characters.........in short, i feel maniratnam wanted to show how irrelevant* a person with Lord Ram's character would be in today's world
*or apathy towards today's problems
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From: Sarna on 30th June 2010 03:06 PM [Full View]
ragahv, nothing wrong
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From: sathya_1979 on 30th June 2010 03:25 PM [Full View]
Thilak
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 05:04 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
Yes, and there's a word for it, "dharma". But could there be objectively true "dharma" in any conflict? The sheer complexity interests Mani. Or is what I feel about the film..Lord Ram was someone who was known to be this perfect guy -which means he must have been a law abiding, the perfect citizen, protector of law when required and in the end doubts his wife.........im not sure if there are as many character shades of Lord Ram as much we have for krishna or any other mythological characters.........in short, i feel maniratnam wanted to show how irrelevant* a person with Lord Ram's character would be in today's world
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 05:15 PM [Full View]
a) In Hindi, Ravi Kishan was creepily interesting than Prabhu. In fact, Kishan's performance is so energetic, memorable and effective than any other character (save Freeyamani) I think it's a joke to suggest this is a bad character per se. Considering what Ilaiya thilagam has been doing, this isn't a typical paean-singing sidekick, but he is disappointingly one-noted and wasteful. Watch Hindi to see how Ravi Kishan performs. So good that one is convinced this man had dwelled (and swelled Originally Posted by Sarna
a) a great actor like prabhu doesnt deserve these kind of treatment that too in a MR film
b) kid, adhu plausible'naadhaan.... ennOda below vaadham sellum
Originally Posted by Sarna
kalyaanam was like thiruvizhaa... everyone was overjoyed... but sudden incident of vikram getting shot was a shock for those people... andha shock'la irundhu avanga veliya var'radhukkulla priyamani kadaththal happened.... imo i dont think there is a flaw Originally Posted by groucho070
Right. Annana kapatunggoo...tanggachi ekkedunalum kettupogattum. Originally Posted by Sarna
emotional attachment groucho everyone was worrying about Vikram and their emotional attachment towards vikram made them to forget priyamani... quite natural ) in forest all his life, and with somewhat eccentric/reckless demeanor, added to his craze for food, made him look credible/interesting.
I was doubly impressed as the same actor played an obsessive widow-lover in "Welcome to Sajjanpur".
b) Yes, but it's not just emotional attachment. But also because the other two brothers would be caught by the cops. And Priyamani's arrest couldn't be anticipated. Plus they expected their brother-in-law to take care of her.
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From: kid-glove on 30th June 2010 06:25 PM [Full View]
Thanks Doctor. Originally Posted by AravindMano
Nicely put Doctor. Originally Posted by kid-glove
A similar question would be, is gnanaprakasam aware fo Sakkarai's murder? The whole scene has been conceived as if to keep Gnanaprakasam out of the action. In the next shot we see him brushing his teeth in a monkey-like posture.
Truth isn't "absolute" of course, but it's also "confined". For once, there's a respect for inaccessibility of facts/truth (and this creates a dissension of 'right or wrong').
Hemanth's castration is unknown to Ragini. On the other hand, Sakkarai's death should be known to her. The conversation between Dev and Veera is unclear (who is lying?). Who does she believe? Her final cries of 'Veera' is exact reversal of calling for 'Dev' when she's first abducted. Much before, she's led to 'believe' the newspapers and that these people her husband are after, are automatically "bad people". Are we any different? We want these rebels/bandits killed just as it is. There could be difficulty in accepting violence of any form, but who speaks for 'violence' that's beyond our knowledge and discernment? Isn't the violence of the "repressed" alone published and sometimes manufactured while the established order gets away with their acts of violation and inhumanity ?
I'd wager that Mani's idea is to let Ragini (on our part) be evidence to the other side. And yes, I believe most of our reaction would be similar, that of "consideration" with better understanding. It need not be love..
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From: ajaybaskar on 30th June 2010 06:35 PM [Full View]
Vikram says to Priyamani that 'Naanga koduthadha thirumba vaanga maattom'. He says it just to irk her. But it also means there is every reason for Vikram & Co to believe that Vennila is safe with her inlaws. That shud be the reason why he punishes his BIL.
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
ராவணன் விசிடி-பணம் கேட்டு மிரட்டிய விக்ரம் ரசிகர்கள்
ராவணன் பட திருட்டு விசிடி விற்பனை குறித்து போலீஸுக்குத் தெரியப்படுத்தாமல் இருக்க பணம் தர வேண்டும் என கூறி வீடியோ கடை உரிமையாளரை மிரட்டிய நான்கு விக்ரம் ரசிகர்களை போலீஸார் கைது செய்துள்ளனர்.
சென்னை பாலவாக்கத்தில் வீடியோ கடை வைத்து நடத்தி வருபவர் சதிஷ்குமார். இவரது கடைக்கு ராயப்பேட்டையை சேர்ந்த சிராஜுதீன், சீனிவாசன், அமீர், கார்த்திக் ஆகிய 4 விக்ரம் ரசிகர்கள் சென்றனர்.
ராவணன் திருட்டு சி.டி.க்கள் இருக்கிறதா என கேட்ட 4 பேரும் 24 சி.டி.க்களை விலைக்கு வாங்கினர். பின்னர் கடை அருகே தாங்கள் சென்ற காரை நிறுத்தி விட்டு கடை உரிமையாளர் சதீஷ்குமாரை அழைத்தனர்.
விக்ரம் ரசிகர்களாகிய நாங்கள் கூறினால் போலீசார் என்ன வேண்டுமானாலும் செய்வார்கள். ரூ.10 ஆயிரம் கொடுத்தால் புகார் கொடுக்காமல் சென்று விடுவோம். இல்லையென்றால் நீங்கள் சிறைக்கு செல்ல வேண்டும் என்று கூறி மிரட்டியதாக கூறப்படுகிறது.
இதுகுறித்து சதீஷ்குமார் நீலாங்கரை போலீசில் புகார் செய்தார். உதவி கமிஷனர் முரளி தலைமையிலான போலீசார் அங்கு விரைந்து சென்று விக்ரம் ரசிகர்கள் 4 பேரையும் கைது செய்தனர்.
திருட்டு சி.டி.க்களை விற்பனை செய்த கடை உரிமையாளர் சதீஷ்குமார், ஊழியர் பழனிவேல் ஆகியோரும் கைது செய்யப்பட்டனர்.
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From: raghavendran on 30th June 2010 06:42 PM [Full View]
yes ajay Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 06:50 PM [Full View]
Telugu VILLAIN gives Mani Ratnam some relief!! [24 Jun 2010]
Finally, Mani Ratnam, the ace director may heave a sigh of relief after the Telugu version of the much- hyped Vikram-Aishwarya Rai starrer flick ‘Raavanan’, earned 40 million rupees in first few days, dispelling the bad omen of Tamil and Hindi versions of the magnum opus.
Initially, there was an apprehension that the Telugu version might not do well in Andhra Pradesh, as no local actors was present in the film While Vikram was from Tamil Nadu, Aishwarya from Karnataka, Abhishek came from bollywood.
Even Prithviraj, who played the character of Dev in the Telugu version, did not belong to that state. However, all these speculations were put to rest when the movie got a terrific response from the audience.
‘Raavanan’ was made by Mani Ratnam and is said to a modern adaptation of ‘Ramayana’, though from ‘Raavan’s point of view. But it failed to click in Tamil Nadu and the audience cold- shouldered it.
On the other hand, Hindi version of the flick starring Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai was worst affected. Critics felt that Abhishek Bachchan was not mature enough to play such kind of role.
However, Big B defended his son by blaming the poor editing of the film to be the main cause of its debacle at the box office. Amitabh Bachchan was of the view that Abhishek Bachchan’s character of ‘Beera’ had become incomprehensible to public due to its bad editing.
But trade pundits are not in agreement with it and put the blame on a linear story and Abhishek’s poor performance. Even Mani Ratnam’s concentration was more on visuals than story.
http://www.magnamags.com/index.php/2...me-relief.html
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From: Pras on 30th June 2010 07:00 PM [Full View]
4 crores in few days for telugu raavanan ... isn't a little too much ?
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 07:03 PM [Full View]
technically raavanan is brilliant but lack in story,screenplay and dialoge!ethukku ippadi ori story-ya choose pannaru MR??verum backdrop 'kaatukku'maathuna fresh-ha irukkum innu nenacharo?!! athukku 'tarzan'ne eduthu irukalam!
vikram-ma marathukku marathukku koranggu mathiri thaava viturukalam!
padam dissapointing aanalum,mani mela innum nambikai irukku!avaru mela innum mariyathai athigama koodi irukku!
nichayam kalakuvaru!next movie-la
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From: raghavendran on 30th June 2010 07:03 PM [Full View]
tamizhle ennadanna hindi flop..tamizhle hittunnu solraange..telugu magazine..hindi,tamizh flop telugu dhaan solraange..onnum puriyale... Originally Posted by Pras
4 crores in few days for telugu raavanan ... isn't a little too much ?
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 07:06 PM [Full View]
'only god knows 'inggara mathiri,only MR knows! Originally Posted by raghavendran
tamizhle ennadanna hindi flop..tamizhle hittunnu solraange..telugu magazine..hindi,tamizh flop telugu dhaan solraange..onnum puriyale... Originally Posted by Pras
4 crores in few days for telugu raavanan ... isn't a little too much ?
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From: raghavendran on 30th June 2010 07:08 PM [Full View]
epdiyo..padam odina seri..its sad that in tamizh people r not disclosing the BO collections as in bollywood...edhu unmayana hituunnu theriya matengudhu Originally Posted by A.ANAND
'only god knows 'inggara mathiri,only MR knows! Originally Posted by raghavendran
tamizhle ennadanna hindi flop..tamizhle hittunnu solraange..telugu magazine..hindi,tamizh flop telugu dhaan solraange..onnum puriyale... Originally Posted by Pras
4 crores in few days for telugu raavanan ... isn't a little too much ?
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From: raajarasigan on 30th June 2010 07:13 PM [Full View]
It is time for MR to direct a 'direct' tamil film... no more bilinguals... nativitye illa... ambasamuthiramnu sollittu kasili irukkara maadhiri koila kaattaanga... EKSI... ithellam matha directors padathula saadharanama irukkalam.. aana mani padathula
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From: A.ANAND on 30th June 2010 07:22 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
It is time for MR to direct a 'direct' tamil film... no more bilinguals... nativitye illa... ambasamuthiramnu sollittu kasili irukkara maadhiri koila kaattaanga... EKSI... ithellam matha directors padathula saadharanama irukkalam.. aana mani padathula finger crossed!we want mani back to do tamil films only! ithathan ellarum ethir paakarangga!
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From: joe on 30th June 2010 09:02 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
ambasamuthiramnu sollittu kasili irukkara maadhiri koila kaattaanga... EKSI... ithellam matha directors padathula saadharanama irukkalam.. aana mani padathula 
Ithellam mani padathula kaalam kalama naan paathuttirukkuRa maathiri oru uNarvu
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:37 AM [Full View]
Raavanan has made $734,625 so far in Malaysia. Compare that with $41,506 for Ravan Thats less than 6% of the Tamil version.
Clearly shows the demand for Tamil films in Malaysia.
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 06:40 AM [Full View]
Thilak, though in opposing camp here, your dissections are impressive
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:42 AM [Full View]
That's 34,008,728.86 INR. Impressive no? Originally Posted by NOV
How many crores is that?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 06:44 AM [Full View]
3.4 crores.
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:46 AM [Full View]
How much has been the collection in Chennai so far?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 06:47 AM [Full View]
Certainly less than Malaysia collections.
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:49 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
just for comparison sake, how much singam collected in Chennai?
In Malaysia, its about 6.6 crores.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 06:51 AM [Full View]
Singam didn't reach 5 crores yet, I guess. Thirumaranai ketta kadaisi paisa varaikkum correct-a solluvar :P
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:54 AM [Full View]
Hmmm... very very interesting.
Lets get to the biggest, Shivaji made 11.2 crores in Malaysia.
Chennai?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 06:55 AM [Full View]
No idea
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 06:57 AM [Full View]
would you know the collection for aadhavan, vEttaikkaran?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 07:01 AM [Full View]
Sorry NOV, wrong number :P
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:03 AM [Full View]
Its ok LM... increasingly I am having some thoughts, but fear to mention it.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 07:05 AM [Full View]
Paravayillai sollunga
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 07:08 AM [Full View]
Yeah, sollungga NOV...who dares to delete your post :P
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:11 AM [Full View]
:P
I was wondering whether its possible if Malaysian market has overtaken Chennai?
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 07:24 AM [Full View]
There was a mention that Malaysia is the biggest market outside of TN...I think from Endhiran crew, justifying audio launch here. But oru sila case-naala orediya mudivu pannapdathu.
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:26 AM [Full View]
... and thats why I hesitated to post here.
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From: joe on 1st July 2010 07:37 AM [Full View]
I am not surprised ..big movies releasing at 40 to 50 centers in malaysia , definitely more than chennai alone ..Moreover , Malaysia collection is in MR and i believe ave ticket rate(after convert to RS) is more in malaysia (Note : Not all centers in chennai are multiplex to have flat rate of tickets like malaysia ) Originally Posted by NOV
:P
I was wondering whether its possible if Malaysian market has overtaken Chennai?
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 07:39 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
... and thats why I hesitated to post here.
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From: ajaybaskar on 1st July 2010 07:42 AM [Full View]
What is the avg ticket rate in Malaysia, NOV?
Here most multiplexes charge 120 flat. The other theatres charge whatever they want, depending on the rush. But still end up showing the rates mentioned on the tickets. So the figures may not be accurate.
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:42 AM [Full View]
yes joe, each cinema will have a flat rate. but the indian cinemas charge an exhorbitant M$13 for big star movies.
any day I rather watch in TGV or GSC.
case in point, watched Ravanan 2nd time in TGV and paid 10 bucks for a superior screen and sound system.
should boycott the indian cinemas but only these cinemas show the smaller-but-better movies like Angadi Theru.
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 07:44 AM [Full View]
Agree with NOV on Indian cinema. Paid RM 12 to watch Ravanan in Big cinema.
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:46 AM [Full View]
ajay, we have different rates for each days. weekends could be about 10 bucks.
weekdays - 7 to 9 bucks
wednesdays - 5 bucks. :P
M$10 = 142 Rs
The above are for GSC and TGV cinemas only,
Indian cinemas will cut throat from 11 to 13 bucks.
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From: gurly on 1st July 2010 07:46 AM [Full View]
NOV, dunno if this helps: found it on behindwoods Originally Posted by NOV
Cast: Vijay, Anushka
Direction: Babu Sivan
Music: Vijay Anthony
Production: AVM
Vettaikaran - Movie Review
Vettaikaran - Movie Trailer
Vettaikaran - Movie Gallery
Vijay’s formula fare has nothing new, except that he’s toned down his punch dialogues and the one-man army scenarios.
Trade Talk:
Fans are still providing patronage and as a result, the movie is still running in a few theatres.
Public Talk:
Anushka and the songs: Karikalan and Oru Chinna Thamarai.
No. Weeks Completed: 6
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 18
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 40%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 97,702
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.37 Crore
Verdict: Average
These are the last published figures from behindwoods as vettaikaran wasn't featured in the top 10 after this. But i presume the movie still continued its run as Theatre Occupancy was still at 40%
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:50 AM [Full View]
Watch in TGV or GSC for the real cinema experience. :P Originally Posted by groucho070
First time I watched at Sentul
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From: joe on 1st July 2010 07:50 AM [Full View]
This applies to singapore also. Originally Posted by NOV
yes joe, each cinema will have a flat rate. but the indian cinemas charge an exhorbitant M$13 for big star movies.
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From: gurly on 1st July 2010 07:51 AM [Full View]
Cast: Suriya, Nayanthara, Ramesh Kanna, Vadivelu
Direction: K.S.Ravikumar
Music: Harris Jayaraj
Production: Red Giant Movies
Suriya – KSR emerge successful with the commercial fare they presented with Adhavan. The fact that Vadivelu’s presence in the movie served as a huge push needs no mention.
Trade Talk:
Trade is gung-ho about the movie’s collections that is close on the heels of Ayan.
Public Talk:
The return of Sarojadevi, in an unexpectedly comic avatar.
No. Weeks Completed: 9
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 18
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 30%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 69,148
Total collections in Chennai: Rs. 4.79 Crore
Verdict: Hit
Nov, similarly this was the last time this movie was featured in behinwoods top ten. I'm guessing this movie also continued it's run after this.
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From: joe on 1st July 2010 07:53 AM [Full View]
Ajay,
I am talking about Multiplex having one rate from first row to last row ,whereas others have balcony ,first class ,second class with different rate.
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From: ajaybaskar on 1st July 2010 07:55 AM [Full View]
Oh..Ok..
Here no multiplex has a balcony.. So flat rate...
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 07:55 AM [Full View]
thanks gurly.
Vettaikaran
Chennai - 4.37 Crore
Malaysia - 6.2 crores
Aadhavan
Chennai- 4.79 Crore
Malaysia -- 6.8 crores
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 07:56 AM [Full View]
I do, I do...for Hollywood films :P Originally Posted by NOV
Watch in TGV or GSC for the real cinema experience. :P Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: venkkiram on 1st July 2010 08:05 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kid-glove
நல்லதொரு அலசல் kid-glove. வாசிக்க சுவையாக இருந்தது... Originally Posted by kid-glove
"ராவணனனுக்கு முன்பு" - "ராவணனனுக்கு பிறகு" என்ற அளவில் மணி ஒரு தேர்ந்த படைப்பாளியாக தோன்றுகிறார் என்ற என் அனுமானத்திற்கு உங்களது அலசல் வலு சேர்க்கிறது.
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 08:15 AM [Full View]
GOOD,BAD AND THE UGLY
ANOTHER EVENTFUL HALF YEAR PASSES IN KOLLYWOOD. CHENNAI TIMES TRACKS THE TRENDS THAT WENT BY…
Sreedhar Pillai | TNN
The trend spotted in Kollywood in the first half of 2010 is that star system has become all pervasive, as small films are falling like nine pins. The success of films like Singam, Paiyaa and the just-released Raavanan, as seen in Chennai, have proved that larger-than-life films and mass masala flicks, where the hero is a one-man army, have made a comeback to Kollywood. The small-is-beautiful phenomenon, which was seen in 2008 and 2009, seems to be losing its fizz at the box-office. “It is only the big stars who can guarantee an opening. The audiences’ honeymoon with small films seems to be on the wane,” says a Chennai-based theatre manager.
Fifty-five straight Tamil films were released in the first half of the year, compared to 51 during the same period last year. Out of this, only eight will recover their cost or make profits. Says Abirami Ramanathan, leading exhibitor, “In filmi terms, I would say it has been the year of the good (superhits), the bad (flops) and the ugly (films that have failed to even take an opening). Big stars are able to get an opening and if the content is good, they will make profits. For small films, there is no opening and even if the content is good, they need television publicity which costs almost half the budget of the film itself! We have to go for flexible ticket admission rates if small films have to succeed.”
According to Ramanarayanan, president of Tamil Film Producers Council, “It has been a mixed bag for films this year so far. I still have faith in small films, but they need to boost up their publicity before release. Producers of small films should aggressively promote their films if they have to reach the audiences. I feel small films made on reasonable budgets will attract viewers if their content is good, as proved by Kalavani.”
Says G Dhananjayan, a producer who has made small films, “The Tamil film industry has moved away from producers and distributors to exhibitors, due to the increasing number of films releasing every week. It is now a buyers’ (exhibitors) market than a sellers’ (producers) one with the power of controlling the run of the films resting with exhibitors. No longer can a producer of a criticallyacclaimed film expect his product to pick up after a week or two as by that time, the film would have been removed from the theatres. Under these circumstances, the best solution is not to risk with run-of-the-mill or realistically-niche films but to make mass commercial wholesome entertaining films with saleable artistes.”
However, Kollywood trade analysts state that it is only a handful of stars that can bring in the audiences. Many producers are still running after big stars who have delivered duds, in the fond hope that at least their next film will strike jackpot and they will, in the process, recoup their earlier losses. No wonder the superstars are able to demand and get half of the budget of the film as their salaries, irrespective of whether their films are successful or not. As a Mumbai-based corporate producer lamented, “Kollywood is the only industry in the world where flops really do not alter an actor’s image or star ratings of a star. This has led to a situation where every actor is trying to model himself as a larger-than-life hero irrespective of the storyline of the film.” Raavanan rocks!
Mani Ratnam’s Raavanan, which released on June 18, could not be fitted into the ‘hits and misses’ chart as it has just been released. The marketing rights of the film were procured by a Mumbai-based corporate for Rs 100 crore for all three versions (Hindi, Tamil and Telugu). As per trade sources, Raavanan’s first week gross collection from 335 screens was approximately a whopping Rs 14.32 crores, while the Telugu-dubbed version titled Villain made Rs 4.31 crore from 202 screens. It is still early days but the film is said to be a hit in south India.
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 08:16 AM [Full View]
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defau...Mode=HTML&GZ=T
finally sridhar pillai vayilaye raavanan hituunuu vandhichu
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 08:20 AM [Full View]
Sathya_1979,
Thanks.
Groucho bro,
Thanks. Yes, need arguments from both camps.
Venkiram,
NanRi
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 08:23 AM [Full View]
now here's sify's half year report...
Raavanan is technically the finest movie made in recent times - superb camerawork by Santosh Sivan and Manikandan, never-seen-before stunning locales and crisp editing. The major plus is Vikram as Veera who towers above all.
He brings a primal mixture of beauty, affection and savagery to the character. You can feel the earnestness of his intentions and the wetness of his tears, especially in the climax. He adds the little touches that make all the difference to the film.
Verdict: Hit
http://sify.com/movies/Half-yearly-r...4tfOgidee.html
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From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2010 08:27 AM [Full View]
Thilak, ur posts are one of the main reasons why I visit fikms thread! Hats off
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 08:28 AM [Full View]
yes thilak..superbly analysed.. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Thilak, ur posts are one of the main reasons why I visit fikms thread! Hats off
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From: venkkiram on 1st July 2010 08:34 AM [Full View]
தேர்ந்த வார்த்தைகளால் விக்ரமிற்கு போடப்பட்ட பாமாலை. Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 08:39 AM [Full View]
venki sir...padathode result veliye varudhu..ippo yenge yarayume kaanum.. Originally Posted by venkkiram
தேர்ந்த வார்த்தைகளால் விக்ரமிற்கு போடப்பட்ட பாமாலை. Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2010 08:55 AM [Full View]
ethana pEru evlo try senjaanga
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 09:07 AM [Full View]
Sathya,
That's far too kind again!
It'd be great to have more reactions. Grouch bro has posted his review. I know Compli, Equa have posted their reactions elsewhere, but one feels a film like Raavan/an deserves such engagement. One could always agree/disagree, but having a discourse on the film will help one understand his older work too. At least to me, I want to watch Dil Se again. I immensely liked it first time, I see that as closest twin to this film. I'll look to revisit that, and perhaps also see Raavanan (which I prefer to Hindi Raavan, not because of 'authenticity' or Mani's lack of control in Hindi - but lead performances and obscure dialogues doesn't entice as much as the superior Tamil version) again..
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 09:15 AM [Full View]
Thilak, trouble with me is acting performance comes first...I guess being NT fan made me to notice that first and evaluate everything else later. So, when Aish's performance failed on me, I find the other lead's intent, motivation, even the psychological make-up totally ruined because of their supposed attachment to her character. I buy the cops and their inter-relationship. Heck, I even liked Vikram and the brothers relationship. But it concerns Aish, I am turned off. So, yeah, the fault in not seeing what you saw is mine, purely due to my own semi-literacy and inability to accept Aish's performance
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From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2010 09:19 AM [Full View]
true thilak. we shud relook at his older films and have a dialogue on how he had evolved as a director.
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From: A.ANAND on 1st July 2010 09:28 AM [Full View]
2 naalu munnadithan 'chennai boxoffice'collection-la raavanan average innu verdic pottangga!ippa hit innu podarangga??
ethathan nanmbarathu?? anyway padam hit.athu pothum 
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From: A.ANAND on 1st July 2010 09:29 AM [Full View]
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 09:35 AM [Full View]
next week super hit-nu poduvanga Originally Posted by A.ANAND
2 naalu munnadithan 'chennai boxoffice'collection-la raavanan average innu verdic pottangga!ippa hit innu podarangga??
ethathan nanmbarathu?? anyway padam hit.athu pothum
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From: Thirumaran on 1st July 2010 10:30 AM [Full View]
Malaysian Market is big no doubt. Regarding the collection in Malaysia, not sure how much reliable they are. Originally Posted by NOV
I was wondering whether its possible if Malaysian market has overtaken Chennai?
As far chennai we got to see only one side.. Oru sinna analysis..
As of today i think only two sites are doing the chennai collection, BW and Sify. Ivanga rendu report kullayae konjam differences irukkum normalaa..
Oru sinna calculation.. Approximate aa 600 seats per theater vachipoam in chennai.. and theater ticket rates say approximately 80 Rs.. 15 theater minimum for a big movie... in opening week ends more shows. Say in first 3 days 14 shows approximately..
(there are few theaters with just 250 seats and there are some theaters with 800 + seats, there are theaters which show more than 15 shows in a week.. in a multiplex like sathyam opening week ends, other side screens la kooda poaduvaanga.. ticket rates most theaters ranges from (80 to 120 Rs)..ippadi ellaathayum kooti kazhichchu paarthaa, kitta thatta naan sonnathukku normalize aagidum ) ithellaam with printed ticket rates.. Theter counter layae black la ticket kodukira theaters um undu.. example Udhyam.. Antha kanakellaam saerthukka vaenaam..athu romba kastam kooda..
now 600* 80 * 14 * 15 = 1 CR + ...
Say theater occupancy is just 90% in opening week end.. Then under any case most big movies is 90 lakhs easily.
Not sure from whom (from theater owners or the distibutors) BW and Sify get the reports from. Under any case they would not be saying the full collection detail for sure.. added to this, intha sites kaana favorites, ivangalukku kodukira interviews ithellaam vachchi konjam koottal kazhithalum nadakkum, from what they get (what they get itself is not proper one as i said). Say, a sify always biased towards Vijay and Rajini.. and looks like in the other set they like Surya and they dont like Kamal and Ajith .. BW oada favorites nichchayamaa therila There might be some more external features too ..
evvalavu partiality kaamichaalum antha sites kaana ottu moththa reputation ayum paathukaakanum illayaa.. athanaala, overall their reports might show the trend w.r.t Chennai..
ethuvumae illaathathapoathu irukira reports vachchi time pass panna vaendiya nilama thaan namakku.. oru jolly kaaga ithellaam panna vaendi irukku
Appuram mukkiyamaa onnu.. They are including only the important theaters comes under the city limits traditionally called.. Say they dont include thiruvanmiyur and Adyar Theaters for examples.. there are more such.. And there are areas like Ambattur, villivakkam which also a part of chennai does not comes into picture.. innaya date kku Tambaram and Chrompet too are part of Chennai.. ippadi pattathu 10 - 25 theaters irukkum.
I think for Malaysia the full list of theaters are included
Sathyam la different rates irukkae ajay.. Inox i think the front row ticket rates are lesser than 20 Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Oh..Ok..
Here no multiplex has a balcony.. So flat rate...
Considering Devi as multiplex (athu multi plex thaane ? ) and there we have Tickets for Rs 10 too.
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From: AravindMano on 1st July 2010 10:36 AM [Full View]
Ah, well said! A lot of people kept complaining that Mani didn't explore/establish the Ragini-Veera relationship. (I was not dissatisifed). The more you say, it is convincing. Originally Posted by kid-glove
I do think Ragini's role is etched better than the other two male leads. (A few thoughts here, in tamil) She goes through more a complete journey than the anyone else in the film.
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From: Siv.S on 1st July 2010 10:51 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 11:32 AM [Full View]
Littlemaster was correct.
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From: ajaybaskar on 1st July 2010 11:48 AM [Full View]
Thiru,
This 10 rs ticket is a mandate as per govt regulations (The treatment this segment of ppl get deserves a seperate thread altogether). So theatres will either have 1 or 2 rows for this. 40-50 seats max. Sathyam has a ticket rate range of 100-120.
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 11:49 AM [Full View]
that makes a lot of money
ippave kanna kattuthe
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From: groucho070 on 1st July 2010 11:50 AM [Full View]
Your words cannot be ignored. I will revisit and review my er...review Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 11:51 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Littlemaster was correct. Thiru didn't notice it, I guess :P
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From: NOV on 1st July 2010 11:52 AM [Full View]
Pras, I hope you didnt miss the post showing Raavanan made 18 times the amount Ravan did in Malaysia. :P
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From: Thirumaran on 1st July 2010 11:52 AM [Full View]
yeah.. i know.. only few theaters implement that.. what i wanted to say is, mutiplex la kooda different rates irukku ngrathu thaan.. :P Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: Thirumaran on 1st July 2010 11:53 AM [Full View]
what was that.. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Originally Posted by NOV
Littlemaster was correct. Thiru didn't notice it, I guess :P btw, how come little master be correct in anything :P
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From: Thirumaran on 1st July 2010 11:55 AM [Full View]
yeah.. so raavanan collection la innum oru 30% kootikko Originally Posted by Pras
that makes a lot of money
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2010 11:57 AM [Full View]
Box office numbers-kku hub-la neengathan authority-nu sonnen NOV-kitta. Correct-a illaiya Originally Posted by Thirumaran
what was that.. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Originally Posted by NOV
Littlemaster was correct. Thiru didn't notice it, I guess :P btw, how come little master be correct in anything :P :P
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From: Thirumaran on 1st July 2010 12:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Box office numbers-kku hub-la neengathan authority-nu sonnen NOV-kitta. Correct-a illaiya Originally Posted by Thirumaran
what was that.. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Originally Posted by NOV
Littlemaster was correct. Thiru didn't notice it, I guess :P btw, how come little master be correct in anything :P :P
that is just an approximate calculation based on somes experiences.. not necessarily it shd be perfect... :P
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 12:18 PM [Full View]
Abhishek is Mani's 'Maaple'
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, July 01, 2010]
Aishwarya Rai Bachchan, who described Mani Ratnam as a special person in her life, has said the ace filmmaker would always have that special place for being the first director in her career.
"He calls me Kannah and calls Abhishek as 'maaple.' It's truly is a fabulous and learning experience to act in his films. Each time it becomes more special and you start to look forward to the next opportunity," the actress has said.
On their recent venture 'Raavanan', she said, "The challenge for me as well as Mani too, who too admitted recently, was doing Hindi and Tamil simultaneously. He had my confidence soaring high working in the movie because he would do the entire scene in one take in Tamil and then go to Hindi, encouraging me.
Mani would always put us in challenging situations. So everybody is honest, alert and committed and I think there isn't an opportunity for a lazy moment."
PS : trying to reconciliate with Mani ?
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 12:19 PM [Full View]
nope didn't miss it ... and that's good news Originally Posted by NOV
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From: Plum on 1st July 2010 12:26 PM [Full View]
Ofcourse, yes. Abhishek is neither a star nor an acclaimed actor in Bollywood - it is his Mani collobrations that have brought him some repute and, ridiculously, a build-up as the best star-actor of his generation ( Originally Posted by Pras
Abhishek is Mani's 'Maaple'
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, July 01, 2010]
Aishwarya Rai Bachchan, who described Mani Ratnam as a special person in her life, has said the ace filmmaker would always have that special place for being the first director in her career.
"He calls me Kannah and calls Abhishek as 'maaple.' It's truly is a fabulous and learning experience to act in his films. Each time it becomes more special and you start to look forward to the next opportunity," the actress has said.
On their recent venture 'Raavanan', she said, "The challenge for me as well as Mani too, who too admitted recently, was doing Hindi and Tamil simultaneously. He had my confidence soaring high working in the movie because he would do the entire scene in one take in Tamil and then go to Hindi, encouraging me.
Mani would always put us in challenging situations. So everybody is honest, alert and committed and I think there isn't an opportunity for a lazy moment."
PS : trying to reconciliate with Mani ? ) - the Bacchan Propoganda Machine cannot do without Mani's colloborations for Sheikh and it is really unfortunate that Senior chose to burn his bridges - senility does that to you, I suppose, and there is not a member of the BPM who doesnt regret Senior's tweet now. They are desparately trying to insinuate now that Mani's next venture will be a light attempt which is why he hasnt chosen to ask Abhishek and has chosen Ranbir instead
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From: Poornima on 1st July 2010 01:34 PM [Full View]
dig.
plum, while I can sense the vitriol for anything Bachchan in these parts of the Hub, what propaganda machine are you talking about? the family has been the most ruthlessly targeted -- by media and sundry internet trolls alike -- in the history of Indian films. if there's any machine of that kind, it's time they did an overhaul.
and the Bachchans sucking up to MR? really? let's not discuss abhishek's histrionic abilities here but on sheer BO steam, NONE of his hits had MR collaborating. Dhoom, Bunty aur Babli, Bluffmaster, Dus, Sarkar, Sarkar Raj, Dhoom 2, Paa, Dostana... where's MR here? two disasters and a semi-hit (Guru) are what these guys have delivered together.
junior B is doing films with the likes of ashutosh gowariker and karan johar... he has interesting stuff like rohan sippy's dum maaro dum lined up. I don't think mani needs the Bachchans. the Bachchans don't need mani either.
sorry for the dig. back to Raavanan.
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From: Cinefan on 1st July 2010 01:59 PM [Full View]
Pras,
Indiaglitz has quoted parts of an interview done with Rai before release.
And Yes,Poornima has a point.Aishwarya is heavily criticized for everything from acting to dress and hairstyle while Amitabh's long running battle with the Rajiv gandhi family makes him a persona non grata to the media which literally licks sonia's a#$(pardon the language).
And Abhishek is hardly spoken about like the Shah rukh's,Aamir's,Salman's(who gets away with anything with the entire film industry saying he is a child like man,golden hearted person etc)and Ranbir's.
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From: AudazJay on 1st July 2010 02:00 PM [Full View]
dig. Originally Posted by Poornima
It's no news that the industry has began to discover the little acting talent in Abhishek only after Yuva came into the picture. And going by the list of BO films you mentioned- I'm just so glad that MR wasn't a part of any of them. Seriously, did you actually watch any of them?
Ruthlessly targeted? Really? Wow, this is news to me!the family has been the most ruthlessly targeted -- by media and sundry internet trolls alike -- in the history of Indian films.
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 02:04 PM [Full View]
THEY R ONLY RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS
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From: Poornima on 1st July 2010 02:28 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by AudazJay
dig. Originally Posted by Poornima
It's no news that the industry has began to discover the little acting talent in Abhishek only after Yuva came into the picture. And going by the list of BO films you mentioned- I'm just so glad that MR wasn't a part of any of them. Seriously, did you actually watch any of them?
Ruthlessly targeted? Really? Wow, this is news to me!the family has been the most ruthlessly targeted -- by media and sundry internet trolls alike -- in the history of Indian films.
Seriously, read again. "on sheer BO steam". did I say the films mentioned are classics? Seriously, what's having watched these movies or not got anything to do with it? the whole point is on who Needs whom, on a basic level of survival in an entirely commerce-driven industry. and again, no brief here for AB's histrionics. that's for another day.
about the Bs being targeted, it could be news to you but anyone who has been remotely following the glossy-rag machinations in the north would know they've been sentenced without trial on many issues... from Bofors to ABCL beauty pageants to land acqusition to Amar Singh to Gujarat to Marathi manoos to wedding invites to Aishwarya Rai-Bachchan's delayed motherhood.
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 02:46 PM [Full View]
Poornima, the (hub's) beef is on AB's acting skills. I think..
About Bachchan, I have defended him with regards to Gujarat issue here. And have also written posts on his performances too.
But his puerile comments on Raavan's editing, not showing graphical heads, etc is nauseating. And then backtracking his comments. I know he's being a father and all that, but will he respect the filmmaker's vision for what it is? And of course, this comes from the man who was singing praises just after London premiere.
The same man who voiced his 'envy' of not working with Mani while his son worked thrice. Isn't this double standards and optimistic? The same man who said Mani's Yuva turned his son's career and that "Guru" is the sort of role that he missed in his career, etc. Enough self-publicity already..
And BPM, I'd like to guess Subhash K Jha would be its founder-leader.
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 02:52 PM [Full View]
And I refuse to accept your reading of his star status. Especially when most of the films are multi-starrers. Giving hits alone doesn't make one a star, it depends on nature of the films..
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st July 2010 02:54 PM [Full View]
to wedding invites to Aishwarya Rai-Bachchan's delayed motherhood.
Don't want to get into this mediavsBachan thing but this is disgusting. Namma media evvalavo parava illa...
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 02:56 PM [Full View]
B(K),
Our media is better? Some of 'em are even worse. Especially certain tamil dailies/magazines. It's just that we have less representation in Internet, that is all.
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From: Sarna on 1st July 2010 02:57 PM [Full View]
pras, unga kaattula mazhai
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st July 2010 03:00 PM [Full View]
Well, namma idhulayum kuppai irukku, we do have our "special" magazines but even their mainstream magazines are full of such crap. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Poornima on 1st July 2010 03:07 PM [Full View]
k-g Originally Posted by kid-glove
Poornima, the (hub's) beef is on AB's acting skills. I think..
About Bachchan, I have defended him with regards to Gujarat issue here. And have also written posts on his performances too.
But his puerile comments on Raavan's editing, not showing graphical heads, etc is nauseating. And then backtracking his comments. I know he's being a father and all that, but will he respect the filmmaker's vision for what it is? And of course, this comes from the man who was singing praises just after London premiere.
The same man who voiced his 'envy' of not working with Mani while his son worked thrice. Isn't this double standards and optimistic? The same man who said Mani's Yuva turned his son's career and that "Guru" is the sort of role that he missed in his career, etc. Enough self-publicity already..
And BPM, I'd like to guess Subhash K Jha would be its founder-leader.
I haven't read the tweets but yes, they sound pretty d-uh. there's a streak of icky modesty in Amitabh I'm not quite the fan of... he tries a bit hard there and comes out all gush and fluff. so when he says stuff like being envious of the son, you know where it comes from. but I thought Mani had clarified that Bachchan himself told him about his reservations about the film's editing before tweeting about it.
anyway, what I wanted to say, again, was the Bachchans are not lording over the industry; they are Not folks who can snap and manufacture consent. it has been especially tough for Abhishek (he had even found himself blacked out of charity ads because of the old row with the G family) and Aishwarya (there was a stunningly regressive news report on a Hindi channel, insinuating that the family's frequent temple visits bordered on superstition, really).
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 04:57 PM [Full View]
While they are targeted by certain sections of the media, one still shouldn't reduce this unabashed criticism (of Raavan) down to anti-Bachchan tendencies. There are section of print media & blogs who pretend this to be the case. But it's not true, and having seen Hindi version, I will testify Abhishek's performance deserves its brickbats (And more!).
I'd put this hysteria down to (a clearly upset) Northern hegemony. Directed towards a Southern filmmaker like Mani Ratnam, who has turned tables on their pin-up deity and tilts towards their postcard villain. And to completely thrash it as an equivalent of "Aag" defies logic. I'll not put this down to lack of taste and/or uninformed perception. It's something more vicious and ideological..
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 05:15 PM [Full View]
And both Mani and Sreekar Prasad have been 'irreverent' to Bachchan's evaluation. Or maybe the reactions are overblown by the media?
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From: Poornima on 1st July 2010 05:43 PM [Full View]
not getting into the ideological debate here. enakku therinjavaraikkum, mani is hugely respected as a filmmaker outside of the south. in fact, the praise has been largely unreserved so far though his straight turns in Hindi have been, deservingly, panned.
okay, I'm tempted to get back to the ideological debate at the imminent risk of hate jabs here Khalnayak -- a big, loud and decisively cruder take on Ramayana -- had pitted Raavan as the cool, swaggering frontman against the moral, straitjacket trappings that defined the conventional, maryada purushottam Ram from the Hindi heartland pantheon. mindless and linear as it is, Khalnayak was still a blockbuster. again, the comparison is just functional as the two films don't come from the same place.
so what am I saying? I guess I'm saying that for me, Raavan (in Tamil, at least) was a drab, pointless exercise that also failed to connect with a lot of people. there has been severe criticism of Mani and Raavanan even in media/blogs down south, right? I could be wrong but the way things are rolling out, I wouldn't read malice behind the bad word. it's just a big film that bombed, like hundreds have already.
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 05:55 PM [Full View]
I think it'd be naive to expect blatancy here. But there have been thin veiled attacks. But some right-wing oriented websites like IBOS (below) have shown their true colors.
http://ibosnetwork.com/newsmanager/t...s/?a=22132&z=4
Here's another condescending view (with an offensive title to boot)
http://www.openthemagazine.com/artic...south-mani-sir
That's just two, but there are others too.
Yes, some of the southern blogs/reviews have been critical ( not that I rate their critiquing - let's be honest - most of the reviews are vacuous and pointlessly written with a mechanical view! ) but none as vicious.
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 05:59 PM [Full View]
Why Khalnayak became a blockbuster? _____ ke peeche, I thought that was obvious.
And regardless, the thematic seriousness, content and presentation is extremely divergent, that the comparison to Raavan isn't functional in any sense..
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 06:02 PM [Full View]
Anyway, Raavan's failure isn't dependent on the star. Dil Se failed with SRK, an even bigger star. But the kind of extreme reactions and hysterical diatribe this film gets, one would believe Mani was rationalizing fascism.
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From: kid-glove on 1st July 2010 06:20 PM [Full View]
But let's lighten up, heard Madras Talkies sold first copy (of all three versions) for 100 crores to Reliance. So it's not a failure for our man technically..
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From: Plum on 1st July 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
I daresay nobody say Khalnayak as a Ramayan redux - certainly not the masses who made it a blockbuster for the item behind the, uh, erm, .......one wonders what if Mani hadnt named this one Ravan. He didnt name Thalapathy as KarNan did he? I wonder how many people will be furiously finding the Ramayana parallels as they do now. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 06:57 PM [Full View]
Film is still running in UK, I hear the weekday shows may have up to 20 people a day, while week ends shows have 'slightly' more people turning up.
A 'Friend' of mine who works in Cineworld, Feltham, London. Said this film is the 5th highest grosser since 2005. Here are the highest grosser since 2005.
1) Shivaji
2) Chandramuki
3) Dasavatharam
4) Vetaikaran
5) Ravanan
6) Singam
7) VTV
8) Asal
9) Sura
10) Pachaikili muthucharam
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 07:09 PM [Full View]
film is doin good in south...adhukku neraya proof katiyachu...mani's hit in tamizh after kannathil and ayutha ezhuthu not doin well...welcome back maniratnam
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 07:11 PM [Full View]
Ayutha Ezhuth la orE +point Madhavan, nothing esle
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From: raajarasigan on 1st July 2010 07:13 PM [Full View]
ada paavigala .... ithellam correct figures thaana... Chemmozhi maanadu mattum illainne average kooda vandhirukkathu.... Originally Posted by raghavendran
film is doin good in south...adhukku neraya proof katiyachu...mani's hit in tamizh after kannathil and ayutha ezhuthu not doin well...welcome back maniratnam
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From: raghavendran on 1st July 2010 07:28 PM [Full View]
bro ungalukku edhukku gaandu...hit achu..edhanale irundha enne..semmozhi manade vittitu raavanan vandhangale..singam yen pole..ille andhe programs e tvle yen pakkale.. :P Originally Posted by raajarasigan
ada paavigala .... ithellam correct figures thaana... Chemmozhi maanadu mattum illainne average kooda vandhirukkathu.... Originally Posted by raghavendran
film is doin good in south...adhukku neraya proof katiyachu...mani's hit in tamizh after kannathil and ayutha ezhuthu not doin well...welcome back maniratnam
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 07:55 PM [Full View]
doing better than singam, vtv, asal, sura after 1 1/2 week of release ... not bad Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 08:07 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
doing better than singam, vtv, asal, sura after 1 1/2 week of release ... not bad Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Pras,
SIngam and Sura are not considered to be 'good' films. Out of the list above I liked 1,2,3 ,5, 7 and 10 the most, with 1,2, 7 being my all time Favourite :P
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From: Srimannarayanan on 1st July 2010 10:07 PM [Full View]
Just watched the movie in Sathyam.
அருமை,அபாரம், அற்புதம்.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 1st July 2010 10:10 PM [Full View]
Raghu Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Dasa is no.2 and Chandramuki is no 3.
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From: thamiz on 1st July 2010 10:30 PM [Full View]
Very well put, poornima! Originally Posted by Poornima
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 10:42 PM [Full View]
but as per your report, they did the "best" business from 2005 Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Originally Posted by Pras
doing better than singam, vtv, asal, sura after 1 1/2 week of release ... not bad Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Pras,
SIngam and Sura are not considered to be 'good' films. Out of the list above I liked 1,2,3 ,5, 7 and 10 the most, with 1,2, 7 being my all time Favourite :P ... vtv being one of your all time favorite () ... i repeat myself : in only 1 1/2 week, raavanan broke the total revenue of vtv ...
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From: Pras on 1st July 2010 10:43 PM [Full View]
you like it ? Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Just watched the movie in Sathyam.
அருமை,அபாரம், அற்புதம்.
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From: thamiz on 1st July 2010 10:43 PM [Full View]
Pras: overseas bo (UK) is usually done in second week! So, for UK bo you are not going to see any change in #s
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From: raghavendran on 2nd July 2010 11:22 AM [Full View]
gusy has suhasini reviewed raavanan?..
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From: VinodKumar's on 2nd July 2010 11:43 AM [Full View]
No. I heard Yugi Sethu reviewed Ravanan in Hasini paarvai. Originally Posted by raghavendran
It would not be good to review a movie being a part of movie.
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From: Pras on 2nd July 2010 12:34 PM [Full View]
from sify about abishek :
http://sify.com/movies/Abhishek-Bach...qqgTjjfhd.html
In 2000, a gangly young man - who had not yet grown into his long legs - made his Bollywood debut. Refugee had promised to be an epic, but turned out to be a mere footnote, and Abhishek Bachchan made headlines only because he was Amitabh Bachchan's son - the one who'd failed at the box office!
Nothing Abhishek did for the next three years seemed to change his luck or anyone's opinion of him. That is until a director from down South zeroed in on him for a role in his film, Yuva.
Abhishek proved that the acting gene had not missed him after all. He wowed critics with his understated acting and had the girls swooning with his burning, intense love for Rani Mukerji's character. Mani Ratnam had uncorked the talent, and there was no holding Abhishek back.
'I got Yuva at a time when I really needed it,' said Abhishek in an interview. 'It boosted my confidence as an actor. I've evolved with Mani.'
In the same year, Abhishek scorched the tarmac and rocked the box office with Dhoom. And the winning streak held strong. Hits like Bunty Aur Babli, Sarkar, Dus and Bluffmaster followed in quick succession.
Just when things began to dip for Abhishek once more, Mani Ratnam was back again with a safety net called Guru. The story of Gurukant Desai, an ambitious man from a village who goes on to make it immensely big in the world of business, had a lot in common with the life of Dhirubhai Ambani. So much so that people claimed it was inspired by Ambani's life.
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From: Pras on 2nd July 2010 01:50 PM [Full View]
hos is raavanan doing in the US ? does someone know ?
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 02:44 PM [Full View]
I thought so, Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Raghu Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Dasa is no.2 and Chandramuki is no 3. that info given above was not by me
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 02:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 02:52 PM [Full View]
Pras to be honest I liked VTV more than Ravanan... Ravanan's plus points are Vikram's actings, Karthik, visuals, editing and the beauty queen :P (with irritating voice Originally Posted by Pras
but as per your report, they did the "best" business from 2005 Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Originally Posted by Pras
doing better than singam, vtv, asal, sura after 1 1/2 week of release ... not bad Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Pras,
SIngam and Sura are not considered to be 'good' films. Out of the list above I liked 1,2,3 ,5, 7 and 10 the most, with 1,2, 7 being my all time Favourite :P ... vtv being one of your all time favorite () ... i repeat myself : in only 1 1/2 week, raavanan broke the total revenue of vtv ...), but VTV had a much better story/ screen play and songs
Songs are a disaster in Ravanan
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From: raghavendran on 2nd July 2010 04:07 PM [Full View]
oh..can u post link? Originally Posted by VinodKumar's
No. I heard Yugi Sethu reviewed Ravanan in Hasini paarvai. Originally Posted by raghavendran
It would not be good to review a movie being a part of movie.
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From: Sarna on 2nd July 2010 05:03 PM [Full View]
params...... since the list is from 2005.... ayan, VA, gajini, aadhavan, singam, vel, SOK are suppose to be in 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th places respectively. Please cross-check ur source correctly Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
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From: Pras on 2nd July 2010 05:57 PM [Full View]
taste differ ... is there any song in vtv near usure poguthe ? Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Pras to be honest I liked VTV more than Ravanan... Ravanan's plus points are Vikram's actings, Karthik, visuals, editing and the beauty queen :P (with irritating voice Originally Posted by Pras
but as per your report, they did the "best" business from 2005 Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Originally Posted by Pras
doing better than singam, vtv, asal, sura after 1 1/2 week of release ... not bad Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Pras,
SIngam and Sura are not considered to be 'good' films. Out of the list above I liked 1,2,3 ,5, 7 and 10 the most, with 1,2, 7 being my all time Favourite :P ... vtv being one of your all time favorite () ... i repeat myself : in only 1 1/2 week, raavanan broke the total revenue of vtv ...), but VTV had a much better story/ screen play and songs
Songs are a disaster in Ravanan ... i don't think so ...
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 06:11 PM [Full View]
sarna Originally Posted by Sarna
params...... since the list is from 2005.... ayan, VA, gajini, aadhavan, singam, vel, SOK are suppose to be in 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th places respectively. Please cross-check ur source correctly
VA flop (I really liked the movie, cos of GVM)
Singam Average
Gajani Hit
ayan average
vel average
these are just my opinions from what i have seen or heard
what film is SOK
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 06:12 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
taste differ ... is there any song in vtv near usure poguthe ? ... i don't think so ...
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From: Pras on 2nd July 2010 06:24 PM [Full View]
SOK : sillunu oru kadhal
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 06:37 PM [Full View]
Oh SOK was certainly a flop
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From: Srimannarayanan on 2nd July 2010 09:27 PM [Full View]
Yes Pras. Going to watch again on Sunday. Originally Posted by Pras
you like it ? Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Just watched the movie in Sathyam.
அருமை,அபாரம், அற்புதம்.
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From: Roshan on 3rd July 2010 01:16 PM [Full View]
Watched it finally. A total crap altogether! Oru araivaikaadu debut director kooda idhavida nalla panni irukka vaaipirukku.
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From: Sarna on 3rd July 2010 01:46 PM [Full View]
roshan, vikram'Oda acting'a paththi naalu vaarththai sollunga
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 02:07 PM [Full View]
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: MADDY on 3rd July 2010 02:22 PM [Full View]
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: Pras on 3rd July 2010 02:34 PM [Full View]
thitturathukke, ticket selavu panni padam paakkuranga sila pear
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From: Vivasaayi on 3rd July 2010 02:44 PM [Full View]
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 03:02 PM [Full View]
Adhu oru Thirai kaaviyam enbadhu ennoda karuthu...Way underrated that philum..
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From: Roshan on 3rd July 2010 03:04 PM [Full View]
enna not best effort. It was his worst effort. He killed the good songs. Pathetic execution. All 3 lead characters failed misrepably. Prithvi ulakkaya muzhunguna maathiri orae expression. Vikram looked clueless about his role througout. I felt like putting some big hammer on Aish's head every time she appeared on screen. Suhasini's dialogues antho parithaabam. Idhu kuppai dialogues'nu kooda purinjikka mudiyaatha nilamaila MR irukkaar. Ennatha cholla. Worst movie i have seen in the last couple of years. I have already wasted a couple of hours of my pressures holiday. Dont want to waste it further by discussing about this worthless film. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: MADDY on 3rd July 2010 03:32 PM [Full View]
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: Pras on 3rd July 2010 03:36 PM [Full View]
hmm, probably true ... all those who liked that movie are idiots ... Originally Posted by Roshan
enna not best effort. It was his worst effort. He killed the good songs. Pathetic execution. All 3 lead characters failed misrepably. Prithvi ulakkaya muzhunguna maathiri orae expression. Vikram looked clueless about his role througout. I felt like putting some big hammer on Aish's head every time she appeared on screen. Suhasini's dialogues antho parithaabam. Idhu kuppai dialogues'nu kooda purinjikka mudiyaatha nilamaila MR irukkaar. Ennatha cholla. Worst movie i have seen in the last couple of years. I have already wasted a couple of hours of my pressures holiday. Dont want to waste it further by discussing about this worthless film. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: mnaren555 on 3rd July 2010 03:40 PM [Full View]
ovvoru manishanukku ovvoru feeling Originally Posted by Pras
thitturathukke, ticket selavu panni padam paakkuranga sila pear
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From: Siv.S on 3rd July 2010 04:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
enna not best effort. It was his worst effort. He killed the good songs. Pathetic execution. All 3 lead characters failed misrepably. Prithvi ulakkaya muzhunguna maathiri orae expression. Vikram looked clueless about his role througout. I felt like putting some big hammer on Aish's head every time she appeared on screen. Suhasini's dialogues antho parithaabam. Idhu kuppai dialogues'nu kooda purinjikka mudiyaatha nilamaila MR irukkaar. Ennatha cholla. Worst movie i have seen in the last couple of years. I have already wasted a couple of hours of my pressures holiday. Dont want to waste it further by discussing about this worthless film. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO. This is too much
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 04:08 PM [Full View]
The very excessive tone is amusing to yours truly. Considering I found this his best film since KM, and a valuable twin/duo/rettai to Dil Se (and in different subplots and visual cues to most of Mani oeuvre, proving himself to be a self-contained auteur! )
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From: vithagan on 3rd July 2010 05:07 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: Mahen on 3rd July 2010 05:21 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
enna not best effort. It was his worst effort. He killed the good songs. Pathetic execution. All 3 lead characters failed misrepably. Prithvi ulakkaya muzhunguna maathiri orae expression. Vikram looked clueless about his role througout. I felt like putting some big hammer on Aish's head every time she appeared on screen. Suhasini's dialogues antho parithaabam. Idhu kuppai dialogues'nu kooda purinjikka mudiyaatha nilamaila MR irukkaar. Ennatha cholla. Worst movie i have seen in the last couple of years. I have already wasted a couple of hours of my pressures holiday. Dont want to waste it further by discussing about this worthless film. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: venkkiram on 3rd July 2010 05:25 PM [Full View]
தன்னோட ரசனைக்கு ஒத்துப்போகிற ஆளுக்காக நீங்க ஏங்கிக்கொண்டு இருப்பது தெரிகிறது. வாழ்த்துக்கள்! Originally Posted by Sarna
roshan, vikram'Oda acting'a paththi naalu vaarththai sollunga
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 05:28 PM [Full View]
+1979 Originally Posted by MADDY
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 05:32 PM [Full View]
Vivs,
Alaipaayuthey kaaviyama, oviyamannu ellam enakku theriyadhu. But it is one film that would remain close to my heart till i breathe my last.. No exaggeration...
Innaiku adha Mani re-release pannaalum FDFS paarkka, banner katta naan thayaar!
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 05:35 PM [Full View]
Professor Wenger: Everyone think they have the prettiest wife at home
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From: venkkiram on 3rd July 2010 05:38 PM [Full View]
அதான் வேணுங்கிற அளவுக்கு அர்ச்சனை செய்துவிட்டீர்கள். இனி விவாதிக்க என்ன இருக்கு! மணியின் ராவணன் ஒருவருக்கு ரொம்ப பிடிக்க வாய்ப்பிருக்கு..இல்லையென்றால் குப்பை என புறக்கணிக்க வாய்ப்பிருக்கு. அந்த கண்ணோட்டத்தில் பார்த்தால் உங்களது அர்ச்சனை எனக்கு எந்த அதிர்வையும் ஏற்படுத்தவில்லை. Originally Posted by Roshan
enna not best effort. It was his worst effort. He killed the good songs. Pathetic execution. All 3 lead characters failed misrepably. Prithvi ulakkaya muzhunguna maathiri orae expression. Vikram looked clueless about his role througout. I felt like putting some big hammer on Aish's head every time she appeared on screen. Suhasini's dialogues antho parithaabam. Idhu kuppai dialogues'nu kooda purinjikka mudiyaatha nilamaila MR irukkaar. Ennatha cholla. Worst movie i have seen in the last couple of years. I have already wasted a couple of hours of my pressures holiday. Dont want to waste it further by discussing about this worthless film. Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan,
Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
அதுவும் விக்ரமைப் பற்றிய உங்களது விமர்சனம் முன்னடியே எதிர்பார்த்ததுதான். உங்களது விக்ரமின் நடிப்பு பற்றிய முந்தைய பதிவுகளே ஒரு சோறு பதம். ஒன்று மட்டும் நிச்சயம்.
நாளை ராவணன் படைப்பினால் மணிக்கு, விக்ரமிற்கு கிடைக்கப் பெறுகிற ஒவ்வொரு புகழ்மாலைக்கும் உங்களது கடும் விமர்சனங்கள் இரையாகிப் போகும்.
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 05:54 PM [Full View]
This indicates that you are not following tamil cinema closely enough for the last couple of years.. Originally Posted by Roshan
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From: NOV on 3rd July 2010 06:00 PM [Full View]
I love Alai Paayudhe too. Welcome to my age group. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
+1979 Originally Posted by MADDY
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan, Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 06:05 PM [Full View]
இந்த படத்துக்கு 15 நிமிடம் தாமதமாக சென்றேன் .அதை முதலில் சொல்லி விடுகிறேன் .
பார்க்க ஆரம்பித்ததிலிருந்து , பிரமிக்கத்தக்க ஒளிப்பதிவு , கலை நுணுக்கம் மிக்க படப்பிடிப்பு இடங்கள் இவை மட்டுமே மனதில் ஒட்டியதே தவிர இடைவேளை வரை என்ன நடக்கிறது என்பதே எனக்கு புரியவில்லை .
முதல் பாதியோடு ஒப்பிடும் போது இரண்டாம் பாதி சற்று ஆறுதல்.
படத்தின் மிகப்பெரிய எதிர்மறை அம்சம் சுகாசினியின் சிறுபிள்ளைத்தனமான வசனங்கள்
மற்றொரு குறை சுவாரசியமில்லாத திரைக்கதை ,கிளைப் பாத்திரங்கள்.
படத்தின் நேர்மறை அம்சங்கள்
1. ஒளிப்பதிவு
2 .படப்பிடிப்பு இடத்தேர்வு
3. மணிரத்தினத்தின் தனித்துவமான காட்சிப்படுத்தும் கோணங்கள்
4. ‘பக் பக்’ என ஏதோ சொல்லும் கடுப்பேத்தும் உடல் மொழி தவித்த விக்ரமின் நடிப்பு
5. ஐஸ்வர்யா ராயின் தோற்றம் (மட்டுமே ..வசனங்கள் ,பாவங்கள் சுத்தமாக ஒட்டவில்லை)
மற்றபடி இங்கே பலர் சிலாகித்து சொல்லும் அளவுக்கு ஒட்டு மொத்த படமும் என்னை கவரவும் இல்லை ..ஒட்டவும் இல்லை.
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From: NOV on 3rd July 2010 06:07 PM [Full View]
http://sify.com/movies/malayalam/fullstory.php?id=14947547&cid=14625530Mani Ratnam’s Raavanan in Tamil has taken a super opening in Kerala. The film opened in the number one position and grossed a whopping Rs 1.67 crore from 66 screens, with a distributor’s share of Rs 62 lakhs, in its opening week (June 18 to 24).
In Ernakulam city, the film has netted in its first week an amazing Rs 18, 65, 255, and a distributors share of Rs 9,30,000 from Shenoys and Padma.
The Vikram-Prithviraj combination has pushed the Mammootty-Prithviraj Pokkiri Raja to the number two position.
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From: venkkiram on 3rd July 2010 06:10 PM [Full View]
அலை பாயுதே படம் எனக்கும் பிடிக்கும். ஒரு சாதாரண ஜாதி விட்டு ஜாதி காதலை மணி கையாண்ட விதமே தனி அழகு. Originally Posted by NOV
I love Alai Paayudhe too. Welcome to my age group. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
+1979 Originally Posted by MADDY
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan, Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
படத்தில் சக்தியோடு மருத்துவ கல்லூரியில் படிக்கும் தோழி என் முந்தைய அலுவலகத்தில் சகத் தொழிலாளி. இவருக்கு சில வசனம் கூட மணி கொடுத்திருப்பார். கார்த்திக் "சக்தி எங்கே?" எனக் கேட்கும் போது, அமெரிக்கா போய்விட்டார் எனக் கலாய்த்து, கேரளா சென்றிருக்கிறார் என்ற உண்மையை உடைப்பார்.
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 06:13 PM [Full View]
Was Casteism shown as the reason for the problem pre and post marriage in Alaipayuthe? I think it was due to the clash between parents when Madhavan's Parents meet Shalini's- discussion regarding family status and upbringing of their children. I could not remember casteist tensions being shown in that Kaaviyam. Originally Posted by venkkiram
அலை பாயுதே படம் எனக்கும் பிடிக்கும். ஒரு சாதாரண ஜாதி விட்டு ஜாதி காதலை மணி கையாண்ட விதமே தனி அழகு. Originally Posted by NOV
I love Alai Paayudhe too. Welcome to my age group. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
+1979 Originally Posted by MADDY
it is......that apart, i posted it here because me and ajay have special bonding with that movie (like most of now turned 27-30s would have) Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
yEn .. adhu mattum enna periya kaaviyama? Originally Posted by MADDY
avanga alaipauthey-va thittti neenga paathadhillaye :P ........ Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Roshan, Agreed that Raavanan is not Mani's best of efforts. But that post of yours was a bit too harsh IMO.
படத்தில் சக்தியோடு மருத்துவ கல்லூரியில் படிக்கும் தோழி என் முந்தைய அலுவலகத்தில் சகத் தொழிலாளி. இவருக்கு சில வசனம் கூட மணி கொடுத்திருப்பார். கார்த்திக் "சக்தி எங்கே?" எனக் கேட்கும் போது, அமெரிக்கா போய்விட்டார் எனக் கலாய்த்து, கேரளா சென்றிருக்கிறார் என்ற உண்மையை உடைப்பார்.
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From: NOV on 3rd July 2010 06:15 PM [Full View]
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/...-03-07-10.html Originally Posted by BehindWoods
For years now Mani Ratnam has never been able to create a movie in the league of Nayagan, Iruvar, Anjali or Kannathil. With Raavanan (with the *an*), he has created a masterpiece which can stake claim as one of his best Tamil films ever. Raavan (without the *an*) is good, but unfortunately Abhishek had to be pitted against Vikram and this is a no contest.
Unlike what most reviews say, Raavanan is not to show how Vikram is a Robin Hood or the gray in his character. Its a typical Mani Ratnam movie where the audience effortlessly falls in love with the anti-hero (more effortlessly with every film of his - from the detailed story in Nayagan to not so detailed in Dalapathy to more and more crisp editing in Dil Se and Guru).
Also, unlike what most reviews say, Raavanan is anything but slow - It shows editing at its best and crispiest - The Prithviraj - Ash romance in one song, the Naxal theme in one song, Vikram’s character in a couple of frames and Vikram falling in love in one brilliantly choreographed song which is poetry in modern frames! The editing is so taut that it’s easy to miss a dialogue or a connection to the epic - Hanuman, Vibheeshan, Kumbhakarna, Jatayu. Blink and you miss a scene where Ash gets out of the train and waits for Prithviraj. Turn away and you miss the human side of Vikram falling in love with Ash.
This is one movie where Mani Ratnam has deliberately left a lot of ambiguities. What does Sita go back for? What happens after the end? Who does she love, or does she love Raavanan at all? Who is Raavanan - A brilliant psycho? Millions of voices ringing in his head? Is the movie about Good Vs Evil, about how love destroys, about the captive and captor? Or is it about the Naxals? Or a bit of everything? Or is it a simple love story? Is Prithviraj involved in the Shurpanaka incident? Is he just a righteous cop who'll do anything for justice? Was Ash imagining Vikram falling on her and getting close to her, like the other dream sequences?
There’s no point talking about the brilliantly backlit frames, excellent music or the sets or the cinematography - These are all taken for granted in a Mani Ratnam movie. As are good acting performances from the side cast, especially Priyamani, Prabhu, Karthik and Ravi Kishen.
Finally, the point which most reviewers have missed. Ash's performance - The best by any adult heroine in a Mani Ratnam film (along with maybe Manisha in Bombay), and the best by any heroine in recent times.
And Raavanan Vs Raavan - Raavan is by far better than any of the mindless stuff which comes out of Bollywood these days. And Abhishek doesn't have a good PR manager like that fellow who played Arjun in Rajneeti Abhi isn't as good as Vikram, but by any standards an Abhishek performance in a Mani Ratnam film is better than any other peer - Ranbir, Imran Khan etc.
Mani Ratnam is way ahead of his time in filmmaking. He defines moviemaking style in India in terms of camerawork, choreography, music and themes. Nayagan came in years before Company and Sarkar or any Mafia movie in India. Look at Mammootty and Rajnikanth in Dalapathy versus Manoj Bajpai and Ajay Devgn in Raajneeti. Dil Se was way ahead of its time. When Yuva was released, Bollywood was still caught in the traditional fare. Now, six years after Yuva we have mainstream films which are not typical love stories. So we need to wait for a few years for critics to applaud Raavan (without the *an* - that’s already a masterpiece) as a path breaking movie. Haven’t we waited years for critics to say Iruvar, Dil Se and Yuva were good movies after they were ripped apart when they were launched?
Finally - Which other director in India would have the guts to present Ram as the villain and Raavan as the hero?
Raavan makes you think. It requires you to keep up with its breakneck speed. Not a simple movie like Guru, which is why it has flopped.
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 06:16 PM [Full View]
In fact, it isn't about 'caste' as much as economic background. Lower middle class as against Upper class..
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 06:25 PM [Full View]
what do you mean? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 06:26 PM [Full View]
Reg - Alaipayuthe Originally Posted by joe
what do you mean? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 06:31 PM [Full View]
What do you mean? Originally Posted by joe
what do you mean? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 06:36 PM [Full View]
Thanks for your clarification Originally Posted by kid-glove
What do you mean? Originally Posted by joe
what do you mean? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 06:37 PM [Full View]
satya
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 06:38 PM [Full View]
Welcome Originally Posted by joe
satya
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From: Sarna on 3rd July 2010 06:50 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by venkkiram
தன்னோட ரசனைக்கு ஒத்துப்போகிற ஆளுக்காக நீங்க ஏங்கிக்கொண்டு இருப்பது தெரிகிறது. வாழ்த்துக்கள்! Originally Posted by Sarna
roshan, vikram'Oda acting'a paththi naalu vaarththai sollunga
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 06:51 PM [Full View]
Joe,
I meant what do you mean by 'what do you mean'.. I was responding to Sathya_1979.
Incidentally, on your unrestrained criticism of Raavan, my reception towards Mani's films and its world is less restrained than yours.
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 06:52 PM [Full View]
Yes Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Reg - Alaipayuthe Originally Posted by joe
what do you mean? Originally Posted by kid-glove
Btw, in Raavan/an, the train (like in Alai with various junctions of their relationship in conjecture with 'stages' of the local railway route... the flashback is also presented in a similar fashion) follows some motif, Ragini pulling the chain and getting off, as against say Mouna Raagam when Chandra pulls the chain and euphorically walks with Divya in his arms, an unison of sorts in metaphorical fashion. In Guru, Guru and Sujatha relationship go through swings, centered around the train. They meet in train as Sujatha's lover abruptly leaves her (as in Ayutha Ezhuthu when Inba doesn't get back to his wife, a very tumultuous relationship that always looked to get derailed). Just after marriage, she asks Guru to take her with him to Bombay (which he does) Then later as crisis hits their relationship (when his brother in law reveals about the dowry), the tram bifurcates both spatially (that makes for a super visual stream from both sides watching the other, as we see them through windows of the trams). In Dil Se, the characters meet in Railway station (superb visuals in that opening scene) and the most popular (unrestrained happiness of its male lead with 'item girl') song is joyfully rendered on top of the train, Chaiya Chaiya. In Iruvar, we have the young Anandan introduced in the train, the innocence of the smile is evocative as this unassuming kid grows to an icon..Middle-aged Anandan is also shown enjoying his travel in another one of his journeys back home. He's still a man-child of sorts (he plays with the sword in sets of the period film, where he meets Prakash raj's character for the first time). But as the film progresses, the unrestrained joy is sucked out of him. In Agni, the train is tied with youthful divergence of a dignified, responsible (controlled anger) Prabhu as against irreverent, indulgence (uncontrolled anger) of Karthik. In Thalapathy, the train of course still attaches the nostalgia and emotional chord of the relationship between the estranged son and his mother. Isaignani composed a masterful instrument theme around the sounds of the train that non-diegetically accentuates this motif.
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From: Sarna on 3rd July 2010 06:52 PM [Full View]
btw, when shanker makes Sivaji or Kamal makes Dasavatharam, people call them as crap .... but when mani makes raavanan, why calling it as kaaviyam
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 06:53 PM [Full View]
Thilak, I also mentioned what u had said, right? Originally Posted by kid-glove
I mentioned the family status and upbringing of the children started the argument and not caste.
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 06:55 PM [Full View]
KG,
Ur ID hs been hacked by Manirathnam.
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 06:56 PM [Full View]
Sivaji, Dasa, Raavanan - enna sambandham Originally Posted by Sarna
btw, when shanker makes Sivaji or Kamal makes Dasavatharam, people call them as crap .... but when mani makes raavanan, why calling it as kaaviyam BTW, endha oru padathayum ulagathula ellarum nallaa irukkunu solla maattaanga. Some will like, some will dislike. So, I couldn't get ur point.
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 06:57 PM [Full View]
Kid, Originally Posted by kid-glove
since your post was just after NOV's post (behindwood article) , I thought you were talking something about it or RavaNan's reception among audience .. Leave it
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 06:58 PM [Full View]
Sarna,
Raavananai yaarum kaaviyamnu sonnadha enakku theriyalai...
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 06:58 PM [Full View]
Yeah got it Sathya, I think that's what you mean by 'Family status'..
Ajay,
I'll take that as a compliment..
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From: Mahen on 3rd July 2010 07:04 PM [Full View]
Which mani's film had no train scenes?
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 07:06 PM [Full View]
Kannathil doesn't have a train scene, right? Originally Posted by Mahen
Which mani's film had no train scenes?
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From: Mahen on 3rd July 2010 07:08 PM [Full View]
There is..Amutha was found in a railway station
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 07:08 PM [Full View]
Some movies are bad.
Some movies are so bad that they urge to suspect if the previous works of the maker were not as good as one thought them to me. I mean, one wonders how someone who makes a movie such as this, could have made 'good' ones in the past. RAvaNan is here.
Quite easily MR's worst film. Universally, consistently bad and simply refuses to rise. The material is so bad that the beautiful visuals, rather than adding to the film, seem to underline the weakness of the writing.
The film is gorgeous tedium.
உலகத்துல உள்ள எல்லா கெட்ட வார்த்தையும் சுஹாசினிய திட்ட தான் படைக்கப்பட்டிருக்கு.
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 07:10 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by P_R
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 07:10 PM [Full View]
I had earlier not read any of the reviews, discussions here as I wanted to see the movie 'fresh'. Very bad idea.
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 07:15 PM [Full View]
P_R,
I think you were totally 'offed' by this film to not engage with any of it, even at superficial level.
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 07:17 PM [Full View]
Mahen,
I dont think so... Nandita Das leaves the baby in the expatriate camp..
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 07:17 PM [Full View]
Yeah I guess so. And that was too bad as it was the only level on offer. :P
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From: Mahen on 3rd July 2010 07:20 PM [Full View]
No ajay..kid amutha..When Amudha runs away from school the first time, she is found in the Perambur Railway Station... Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Mani's attachment to railways and trains I share the same sentiment with Mani..
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 07:21 PM [Full View]
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 07:22 PM [Full View]
Oh..Ok.. Got it..
BTW, Did Thiruda Thiruda have a train sequence?
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 07:23 PM [Full View]
But P_R, lovely arrangement of words like 'Gorgeous tedium' there..At least there's something in there to get such contorted expressions.
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From: Mahen on 3rd July 2010 07:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Oh..Ok.. Got it..
BTW, Did Thiruda Thiruda have a train sequence? how can you forget ?
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 07:25 PM [Full View]
Hope u dint see my emoticon
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 08:02 PM [Full View]
Eh ! Originally Posted by kid-glove
btw
கடா கடா பாட்டில்
நாவப்பழ கருப்பு நாதாரிப்பய மவன் என்பதை
நாவப்பழ கருப்பு நாடோடிப்பய மவன் என்று மாத்தியிருக்கிறார்கள்.
நாதாரி என்பது ஒரு ஜாதியை குறிப்பிடும் சொல்லாம். அதனால்தான் மாற்றப்பட்டிருக்கிறது போலும்
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 08:28 PM [Full View]
Thappa sollala, neenga sonna 'gorgeous tedium' enbadhu remba kevalamana padathukku solla mudiyadhu..edho konjamavudhu sariya irukkanum to be called 'gorgeous', even if tedious to sit through.The visuals should be deemed 'gorgeous' if one is able to sense the distinct world of the film, with a consistently felt ambiance and etched out in harmony with the dramatic tone.. And of course, the tone of your post reveals disappointment and skeptical of Mani's older works, etc. I'm guessing you're calling it gorgeous like 'picture postcards', if so I violently protest. Utter tripe like 'Kites' would fall in this ballpark.. Like Kruthigai with his machismo features in beautiful locales.
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 08:52 PM [Full View]
Yeah. Picture poscards it is. Originally Posted by kid-glove
To quote Vivek's words from Vaali when talking to Ajith about Simran: பார்க்க அழகா இருக்குங்கறதுக்காக ஒரு குழப்பத்தைக் காதலிக்க முடியுமா?
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 09:00 PM [Full View]
I disagree. Originally Posted by P_R
Yeah. Picture poscards it is. Originally Posted by kid-glove
There are visual cues ciphered here. One could easily do a frame-by-frame commentary, but you'll disagree on basis of 'intent' (which I respect) even if it's a 'plausible' reading of the philum.
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 09:10 PM [Full View]
k-g, for me the magic is first in the black words on white paper. It is possible to drop the ball after that in the making. But if the writing is not there then no amount of visual dagalti can lift a film.
So in a way I was feeling cruelly glad about having this validated.
Anyway, நான் மேட்டுக்குடி
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 09:29 PM [Full View]
Disagree. If by writing you mean what's written is in the frame visually, its visual subtext and isn't just spoken ( in which case, I happen to think it's not as bad as it's made out to be, and it's functional to me, & the complaint that it's all over the place, artificial, etc is something I'm okay with, but also regard its expository nature, as I think it also does help probe into the characters than the uninviting, abstract Hindi philum ). I admit that I'm prone to pattern-seeking - the probing isn't just to fill out the blanks but making out the jigsaw puzzle from what's available.
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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd July 2010 09:37 PM [Full View]
ஓ! இவங்க ரெண்டு பேரும் 'டிஸ்கஸ்' பண்ண ஆரம்பிச்சிட்டாங்களா? Dictionaryஐ எங்க வச்சேன்னு தெரியலையே!!!
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From: joe on 3rd July 2010 09:38 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: P_R on 3rd July 2010 09:58 PM [Full View]
Superficial and annoyingly artificial, not inviting one (me, that is ) to engage in any way at all.
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From: Sanjeevi on 3rd July 2010 10:06 PM [Full View]
ajay you are in great humour form today
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From: Vivasaayi on 3rd July 2010 10:10 PM [Full View]
gorgeously tedious nu soldreenaga..hehe Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 10:42 PM [Full View]
P_R,
Fair enough.
I'm only positing why I liked it. You could always agree/disagree, or trivialize it.
By Visual subtext, I mean very different things. For example, the casting choice. In hiring Priyamani here (in stead of say Deepika Padukone or Kartina Kaif). She very much evokes கருப்பு நாதாரிப்பய origin. There's this scene where Veeraiya "says" to Ragini she will turn "darker" if she stuck with them longer. There's a clear demarcation of both the women. Ragini vis-a-vis Vennila. In other words, Ragini is the 'other' of this clan, but as in the visual, is soaked (she 'descents' in her fall - this very pristine image of her arrests the bandit inexplicably and isn't easily reducible to words) and then soiled (figuratively also) darker in the stint, that new things are revealed to her. The surname 'Ragini' is distinctly Sanskrit, meaning 'Love Melody' (Names like DevPrakash, denoting 'lighter deity' with light alluding to skin tone, or Hemanth, also finds its origin in Sanskrit as against Veeraiya/Vennila/Singarasan/Sakkarai - distinctly Tamil surnames - with varied dialect that it would seem artificial on one had, but also serves to denote/represent the collective identity. And finally GnanaPrakasham which is somewhat ambivalent, there's part of DevPrakash in the name itself), but this 'other' women is also visually 'shown' in Kalvare song to be a classical dancer. That she's 'teaching' பரதநாட்டியம், Tamil classical dance routine, to kids. On the other hand, Dev is shown to have overbearing demeanor to 'Veeraiya's world', and is some sort of a egotistic metrosexual (As against say the selfless Veeraiya - that the film centers on his personal loss is immaterial, because Dev very clearly tells us about this Robin hood-like tribe leader). He seems quite self-possessed in all the investigative conversations. I'm also reminded of the (the kinky mirrors which further reveals his narcissism, and self-indulgence) bed room scene, the conversation with Ragini - he seems to proudly wear the badge on his sleeves (hindi has line on biwi/bandook ) This man is possessed in nabbing Veeraiya, and winning over the resistance of these 'lands' that Veera controls over (this is all 'said'). That this will always be his first and foremost 'duty' is foreshadowed throughout. Ragini, on the other hand, shows the inclination to be 'considerate' and much more open, as in her artistic pursuits (பரதநாட்டியம்), willing to probe into other side. And the film's closure shows this very figuratively that Dev might have finished this man, but Veeraiya's mark is smeared on Ragini (not just his blood), and will gestate in some form. She will now always carry this, and will not share blind harmony (in her previous uninhibited state, wouldn't let her question this 'Dheivam', and wants Veeraiya killed in one of the conversations) with Dev any further..
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From: kid-glove on 3rd July 2010 10:52 PM [Full View]
All said, as I said to Groucho, one wishes for young Shobana to have played this role.
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From: P_R on 4th July 2010 08:12 AM [Full View]
k-g,
You sound so defensive that I feel bad if I've been so nasty in the past to elicit such Originally Posted by k-g
the kind of film I like has texts first and then subtexts. In my humble opinion, MR is always just surface. Beautiful surface, no doubt but nothing profound beyond that. I am ambivalent about the intention of all this nuanced stuff. But that is NOT my problem here. The debate is about whether intention is necessary (not even that actually). No-one considers the line of argument that Intention is sufficient.
The craft of translating it all into the magic of screen was not there.
For instance, the spinning parisal conversation where Vikram talks to Ash was inanely showy to me. There was nothing in their characters that could make the moment work. So it was just gimmickry. Every single scene in the film was like that.
With Deva-Surya-Arjun you could understand the character motivations for themselves, they did not assume that our understanding would draw from the epic. That's the tough part, you can just "ref. VyAsa" for that. Same for Roja Satyavan-Savitri.
Anyway even AE had ordinary writing but the performances saved it in some measure. But even that wasn't the case here.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 4th July 2010 10:59 AM [Full View]
Anjali, Pagalniavu Originally Posted by Mahen
Which mani's film had no train scenes?
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From: rangan_08 on 4th July 2010 11:36 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by P_R
ஏதோ குல சாமிக்கு கடா கடா வெட்டி, பொங்க வெச்சு நேந்துகிட்ட மாதிரி இருக்கு. ஹூம். என்ன பன்றது? பல காலமா மனசுல உறுதியோட ஏற்பட்ட பகையாச்சே, லவலேசத்துல மறைஞ்சு போகுமா என்ன?
எல்லா கெட்ட வார்த்தைகளும்னா, எவ்ளோ?
பத்து தல - பத்து நாக்கு - பத்தாயிரம் கெட்ட வார்த்தைகளா???
High time we feel the pinch of missing Sujata's punch.
WE REALLY MISS YOU SUJATA AYYA
Actually, re-creating epics in contemporary style does not go well with the audience, most of the time. Buz Luhrman's "Romeo+Juliet" was also a big flop (there were hardly 20-30 of us in the theatre). But I liked Omkara (have not seen Maqbool).
Instead of going for an epic, it would be nice if directors like MR opt for popular tamil novels, not necessarily Ponniyin Selvan, though. There are plently of wonderful classic tamil novels which has got all the potential and possibilities to be made into a film. Producers and directors should come forward to make it possible.
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From: Mahen on 4th July 2010 11:37 AM [Full View]
Have to watch the movies again to confirm Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Anjali, Pagalniavu Originally Posted by Mahen
Which mani's film had no train scenes? i can only remember a few scenes
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From: Roshan on 4th July 2010 01:26 PM [Full View]
Read all your posts and I agree to each and every word of yours Originally Posted by P_R
k-g,
You sound so defensive that I feel bad if I've been so nasty in the past to elicit such Originally Posted by k-g
the kind of film I like has texts first and then subtexts. In my humble opinion, MR is always just surface. Beautiful surface, no doubt but nothing profound beyond that. I am ambivalent about the intention of all this nuanced stuff. But that is NOT my problem here. The debate is about whether intention is necessary (not even that actually). No-one considers the line of argument that Intention is sufficient.
The craft of translating it all into the magic of screen was not there.
For instance, the spinning parisal conversation where Vikram talks to Ash was inanely showy to me. There was nothing in their characters that could make the moment work. So it was just gimmickry. Every single scene in the film was like that.
With Deva-Surya-Arjun you could understand the character motivations for themselves, they did not assume that our understanding would draw from the epic. That's the tough part, you can just "ref. VyAsa" for that. Same for Roja Satyavan-Savitri.
Anyway even AE had ordinary writing but the performances saved it in some measure. But even that wasn't the case here.
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From: kid-glove on 4th July 2010 02:55 PM [Full View]
P_R, I didn't intend to be defensive there. But to know what you made of it. No, I disagree that MR is always just surface! Incidentally, that Parisal sequence didn't come off as inane to me, but possible to deem it showy. He's profound in deceptive ways and at times, quite bold at it too. Raavan is such a work. As was Dil Se, which I just watched and blown over.
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From: P_R on 4th July 2010 04:25 PM [Full View]
rangan, that is a dialock by the gifted writer Suhasini which I have quoted. That's a sEmbil.
It's like they were trying to overcompensate for the nativity-run in TFI by writing the way they did.
Yes Sujatha was missed. But methinks even with he couldn't have saved this one.
I struggle to look at things this way. In films and otherwise. Originally Posted by kid-glove
Hmm...for instance ? Any image/metaphor that you'd like to mention ? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Anban on 4th July 2010 04:32 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by P_R
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From: Poornima on 4th July 2010 05:32 PM [Full View]
I can't think of any MR film that moved much beyond surface. his takes on presumed "topical" and "serious" issues have always been simplistic and many times, annoyingly naive. kabir and kamal having Muslim-Hindu riot victims around them in a human chain to rousing BGM. that's the kind of straitjacket that MR is comfortable with. his strong point, apart from the obvious brilliance as a technician, has been engaging character feed-offs that work so well in Iruvar and to a great extent, Kannathil Muthamittaal. Originally Posted by P_R
IMHO, he has tried to channel an acquired sense of auteur importance in his more recent films which dabble with everything from insurgency to Eezham. but even with that kind of gravitas, I don't think he's equipped enough to devise such loaded subtexts. just my opinion.
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From: jaiganes on 4th July 2010 09:24 PM [Full View]
I saw the thiruttu print on youtube and am wondering, why should films solve the problem and prove (a+b)^2 social problem and entertain at the same time? Originally Posted by Poornima
I can't think of any MR film that moved much beyond surface. his takes on presumed "topical" and "serious" issues have always been simplistic and many times, annoyingly naive. kabir and kamal having Muslim-Hindu riot victims around them in a human chain to rousing BGM. that's the kind of straitjacket that MR is comfortable with. his strong point, apart from the obvious brilliance as a technician, has been engaging character feed-offs that work so well in Iruvar and to a great extent, Kannathil Muthamittaal. Originally Posted by P_R
IMHO, he has tried to channel an acquired sense of auteur importance in his more recent films which dabble with everything from insurgency to Eezham. but even with that kind of gravitas, I don't think he's equipped enough to devise such loaded subtexts. just my opinion.
If the filmmaker goes detailed into a problem, then ppl start saying 'docu' feel.
All this said, Ravanan neither was entertaining - nor went deep into problems, stops half way in 'showing' everything. There is a feeling of 'half bakedness'. The mani fan in me wants to believe that all if this is intended , but common sense tells me that i am chewing on something that is not cooked. I have to say better luck next time and Aish cannot act. When Veeran and Singaraasu repeatedly taunt Raagini with the 'Maettukudi', there is no retort that usually maettukudi guys like me offer. All this for a lady who is bold. It is as if, the characters are preprogrammed android puppets. Totally unnatural and uninspiring reactions totally rob the movie of any drama for an action movie that has precious little action to hold interest. As far as thematic motifs etc, lot of beginnings in scenes that end abruptly to accord any credit to the movie maker.
Parisal scenes, tribal village setup etc., "The Mission " film inspiration clearly shows. This is clearly Mani's most inspired film - tributes to almost all foreign masters are abundantly present in the movie. Action scenes, romance (hinted - not established clearly) all are nods to the chinese masters. BGM is another puzzle I am trying to decode. Onyum piriyale enakku. Towards the intermission "Keda kari" song bit and the song that follows it are the best musical phases in the movie and that is one piece that is well shot and directed in the whole movie, despite the obvious "location confusion" associated with it.
The aspect of "coveting" another man's wife is not clearly underlined. this could be due to either
a) insipid writing or
b) insipid acting
I would tend to think it is 35% A and 65% B - main culprit being Mrs.Bachhan who looks aged as an aunty and bone dried to what is "nadippu".
All this said, the movie did not leave me cussing and shouting as there are moments effused by manic editing and some great acting by Vikram and Prabhu and Karthik (forgetting the initial monkey antics) that salvage much of the movie. Dialogues are well.... they are the nails on the tire of the movie, managing to make even the most honest serious scenes look like a crazy mohan drama.
Prithvi and Priya mani - have not stretched themselves too much in terms of acting -so nothing spl to write home about.
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From: Pras on 5th July 2010 01:29 AM [Full View]
you mean like TV serials ?? ... if so, i can explain you raavana in my words ... that will take another 100 parts of this thread ... Originally Posted by P_R
k-g,
You sound so defensive that I feel bad if I've been so nasty in the past to elicit such Originally Posted by k-g
the kind of film I like has texts first and then subtexts. In my humble opinion, MR is always just surface. Beautiful surface, no doubt but nothing profound beyond that. I am ambivalent about the intention of all this nuanced stuff. But that is NOT my problem here. The debate is about whether intention is necessary (not even that actually). No-one considers the line of argument that Intention is sufficient.
The craft of translating it all into the magic of screen was not there.
For instance, the spinning parisal conversation where Vikram talks to Ash was inanely showy to me. There was nothing in their characters that could make the moment work. So it was just gimmickry. Every single scene in the film was like that.
With Deva-Surya-Arjun you could understand the character motivations for themselves, they did not assume that our understanding would draw from the epic. That's the tough part, you can just "ref. VyAsa" for that. Same for Roja Satyavan-Savitri.
Anyway even AE had ordinary writing but the performances saved it in some measure. But even that wasn't the case here.
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From: AudazJay on 5th July 2010 08:14 AM [Full View]
Watched Raavanan yesterday...the moment I came out of the theatre, the first thought that came to my mind was- why was this movie being bashed by everyone?
The film was intriguing from start to end. Vikram proves again that he's one of the best talents we have today. The way he changes his expressions in split seconds, the way he terrorize the police, the scenes where he expresses his love, the pain he felt when he hears of his sister's rape and the sorrow after his siblings dies- this guys has lived as Veera in this film. There was a moment when he does his"pat pat pat", and one smart ass audience remarked, "Ivan innum kathaswamy liye irukana?" The moment he said that, a group of angry people hissed from behind "Shut up, will you?!". The guy hardly even moved his head after that.
But truly, this is not the kind of movie where you would want to sit and make crude remarks. Every scene is captivating, every moment seems crucial, every movements seems mystical, and none to be missed.
I know some complained about Karthik and Prabhu's roles being wasted here. I disagree. Prabhu was a delight to watch. Every dialogue of his (no matter how lame it sounds) made me smile. He was enjoyably funny and yet manage to stand tall along Vikram.
And Karthik is definitely back to the industry...except for the flying on the trees scenes (which I thought was pretty lame), I thoroughly enjoyed his acting throughout the movie. His humor in some of the crucial part of the film (eg: when the battered Hemant was sent back to the camp) lightens up the scene.
The surprise package was definitely Prithviraj. I thought he was good in Mozhi, but after Ninaithale Inikum and Kannamoochi, I often wondered how this guy manage to survive in Malayalam industry for so long. Raavanan is a proof of the immense talents this guy has. He didn't have much dialogue in the film, in fact, he didn't need to. You could understand the sadness and longing in his eyes the moment he saw the rope which was being used to tie Aish. The cynical smile he had when he killed Sakkarai and his calm composure when he killed Veera at the end...all these minute expressions spoke a thousand words and gave us an understanding of his character. The bridge scene was very well executed...and it was treat to the eyes to watch this two guys standing against each other.
Priyamani is lovable. I never noticed how beautiful she looked until this film. Considering how shabby they made her look in Paruthiveeran, it's a wonderful change to see her being so pleasant to the eyes and yet fit into her role with ease.
The only sore point i had with this film- Aishwarya Rai. Granted, she's beautiful, she dances gracefully and she's sensual, but she definitely can't act. There were a few scenes which made me think, yeah, she's kinda ok in this scene, but there was a general feeling that she's a misfit in this film. Watching her in Raavanan made me think of Jackie Chan in the tamil-dubbed Karate Kid2 (ironically a few of the scenes from KK2 were shown on Sun TV yesterday morning). It's as if they just edited her scenes in Hindi and placed it along this film. Her lip movements was awkward, the voice didn't suit her ( a surprise really- Rohini has one of the most pleasant voice, not sure why it sounds odd here) and most importantly you can't feel with her character. As time goes, I was more concerned with Veera's and Dev's next move rather than feeling sorry for Ragini, which I didn't, after a while. It was a waste that such a role was not given to a better actress. Whoever she is, might not have been as graceful and beautiful as Aishwarya is, but would have definitely lived as Ragini.
Songs were, needless to say, wonderful. I didn't feel sorry that most of the songs were cut short though. If any other director had done the same, I would definitely have felt bad, but Maniratnam's way of execution is a class apart. A movie like Raavanan needed song to complement the flow of the film, and that, they did. Usure Pogathey is amazingly shot. Kalvare was sensual and Keda kari was vibrant and colourful.
Overall, Maniratnam has delivered once again with Raavanan. Despite the small flaws here and there, I'm definitely glad that I watched it.
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From: NOV on 5th July 2010 08:27 AM [Full View]
who is the everyone? Originally Posted by AudazJay
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From: AudazJay on 5th July 2010 08:36 AM [Full View]
ok, perhaps not everyone, but there is definitely a high number of people bashing this film on the net, including hubbers. Originally Posted by NOV
who is the everyone? Originally Posted by AudazJay
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From: NOV on 5th July 2010 08:38 AM [Full View]
on the contrary, I find many netters praising this film, esp as compared to Raavan.
Ok, lets do a poll.
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From: raghavendran on 5th July 2010 08:42 AM [Full View]
AudazJay
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From: AudazJay on 5th July 2010 08:43 AM [Full View]
If that's true, then I would definitely be glad to be proven wrong Originally Posted by NOV
on the contrary, I find many netters praising this film, esp as compared to Raavan.
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From: Pras on 5th July 2010 10:17 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
on the contrary, I find many netters praising this film, esp as compared to Raavan.
Ok, lets do a poll.
thanks for the poll
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From: Mahen on 5th July 2010 10:43 AM [Full View]
Audaz-yeah many are being very harsh on ravanan
Midvalley is still screening Ravanan in THX sound system.. I have never watched a tamil film in THX..Should i watch again?
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 12:06 PM [Full View]
Depends on who the people are who said each of the individual remarks you attribute to them. People is not an unified, amorphous entity - as far as I can see, die-hards of Shankar, Kamal or Mani found Sivaji, Dasa or Ravanan one of their best(to the extent, some of them even quote Dasa as one of the top-10 ever in TF!) - the degree of reception might differ but that is the general trend. The bitter critics of each of them latched on to the deficiencies of the respective movies to paint their whole ouevre black. And the in-betweens remained in-between in response. Originally Posted by Sarna
btw, when shanker makes Sivaji or Kamal makes Dasavatharam, people call them as crap .... but when mani makes raavanan, why calling it as kaaviyam
The demographic in each case being - mostly - mutually exclusive, who is this amorphous, integrated entity called "people" who crapped Sivaji and Dasa but hailed Ravan or vice-versa? If they exist, why should they maintain consistency? Is watching movies an exercise in righteousness, dharma?
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 12:08 PM [Full View]
I think you should watch Ravan. According to Abhishek fans(that is too mild a word for these entities who think that Abhishek is an iconic presence, a legend(already!) of Indian cinema), the tamil version is a plain vanilla after-thought by Mani. Ravan is the real deal, I believe. pArthuttu pEsunga! Originally Posted by P_R
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From: P_R on 5th July 2010 12:10 PM [Full View]
Flau, neenga reNdumE pArthutteengaLA?
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 12:23 PM [Full View]
Yes, Ravan in thiruttu DVD via Cable - obviously, with it was a cable operator's cut so I reserve judgement - but me thinks Abhishek has gaps in his acting potential, which have been extrapolated as cues, and sub-text in narrative by his die-hards(all 16 of them!)
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From: MADDY on 5th July 2010 03:38 PM [Full View]
superb - cant agree more with this guy Originally Posted by NOV
[tscii] Originally Posted by BehindWoods
how true is this - mani has been ahead of his times so many times.........people dont even realise that Originally Posted by NOV
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/visitors-1/raavanan-mani-ratnam-raavan-03-07-10.html Originally Posted by BehindWoods
........raavanan too is a new attempt from mani to move a picture purely on visual montages , some people have missed realising this one too
thnx NOV
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From: MADDY on 5th July 2010 04:02 PM [Full View]
mani is one director who demands different criteria for analysis of his works........movies are not "just" abt pen and paper for mani but how to reduce that with camerawork..........he does have his own failings and flabs but to size him up as someone "just surface" is truly sad.........i think i have to club u with people who dismiss him as "just" a good "video songs" director Originally Posted by P_R
i agree to the first line though i have not given it a second viewing even after exciting reviews from KG.......on first impression, i felt though the visual montages thingy was great, but the coherency was missing and lot was left for us to refer from epic......i thought the visual style had a amateurish feel to it, it looked more of a excuse for not having a great writing but it wasnt a excuse.....he has long way before he can handle this type of narration with ease but the start has been made..........i would sat raavanan is like a first step for mani in path of kubrick......... Originally Posted by P_R
but when mani talks so much abt cutting flab - he should also should take care of insipid dialogues and "an apology" of writing from suhasini ........he must back his visual narration with a decent enough writing/dialogues........
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From: P_R on 5th July 2010 04:13 PM [Full View]
Actually what's so wrong about surface ? It's one helluva challenge to get it right. oNNiyum vONAm, unga barathiraja-vai ippo oru 'surface' edukka sollunga pArppOm. Originally Posted by MADDY
pEchu vArthai nadakkumbOdhu vanmuRai koodAdhu Originally Posted by MADDY
That's one leap you are making Originally Posted by MADDY
To dialogues were a calculated assault on credibility. 'மேட்டுக்குடி?' What the deuce is that ??
With writing like that, a film cannot rise even if you have Santosh Sivan, Rahman etc. Writing is the starting point.
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From: kid-glove on 5th July 2010 04:17 PM [Full View]
P_R,
I think I've said enough already in this very thread. I hope it hasn't nauseated others. I don't know if it's profound for you, but I think this film does succeed at quite a few counts. I know some of my posts seems defensive, but hey, I see this movie-watching experience quite educational in ways to crack Mani's older films. With Guru, we're able to crack Nayagan better. Now with Raavan, we're able to make more sense of Dil Se. I know there might be disappointment as such with the dialogues and superficial touches, personally I felt it wasn't half as bad as it's made out to be. I wish casting was better in Aishwarya Rai (both versions), Abhishek, Prabhu, Govinda, and few other actors. I know in this film, the role of Ragini is extremely important. It was important to have a charismatic center here, in this regard, Amar with regards to Meghna in Dil Se was so much better. As a matter of fact, I seem to assimilate Raavan in spite of all this..
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From: kid-glove on 5th July 2010 04:20 PM [Full View]
And I had interesting exchange of PM's with few hubbers that helped make more of the core issue at hand. Some of which can't be said here. But I'll willingly to forward it to interested folks.
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From: P_R on 5th July 2010 04:24 PM [Full View]
k-g, points acknowledged but I must admit I can't understand.
I guess credibility of dialogues is something that I am hypersensitive about. The situation can look and feel real till the character opens his mouth and crashes the whole thing down.
I'm reminded of this Russel Peters joke. (*Profanity alert*)
Interesting. Can you dwell on this a bit ? Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: P_R on 5th July 2010 04:25 PM [Full View]
Me the first. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 04:48 PM [Full View]
me the second Originally Posted by P_R
Me the first. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Pras on 5th July 2010 05:55 PM [Full View]
me the third Originally Posted by Plum
me the second Originally Posted by P_R
Me the first. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 05:59 PM [Full View]
pras, you shouldnt ask for PM. You should push for posting in this thread - appO dhAnE Thread move Agum? Originally Posted by Pras
me the third Originally Posted by Plum
me the second Originally Posted by P_R
Me the first. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: NOV on 5th July 2010 06:09 PM [Full View]
well Jay, almost 80% of the ppl here have no bad words for Ravanan (as of now) :P Originally Posted by AudazJay
If that's true, then I would definitely be glad to be proven wrong Originally Posted by NOV
on the contrary, I find many netters praising this film, esp as compared to Raavan.
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From: Pras on 5th July 2010 06:14 PM [Full View]
let him PM me everything first ... i will post them here Originally Posted by Plum
pras, you shouldnt ask for PM. You should push for posting in this thread - appO dhAnE Thread move Agum? Originally Posted by Pras
me the third Originally Posted by Plum
me the second Originally Posted by P_R
Me the first. Originally Posted by kid-glove
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From: raghavendran on 5th July 2010 06:26 PM [Full View]
sollardhe sollattum...parpom...its all abt ravanan only..
P_R
u said the performances also didnt help gud writing as in AE...u sure..i thougth the performace overshadowed the dullness in the dialouges..vikram's best..
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From: P_R on 5th July 2010 06:39 PM [Full View]
Weak writing is not just bad dialogues. Incredible characterization, unclear character-motivations etc. Just didn't click for me.
Dialogue is the single biggest grouse though as it is what undermines everything: ஞானம் இல்லை Eh?..who the deuce talks like that !
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From: Anban on 5th July 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
antha boat-la vikram-aishwarya oru kavithai ellaam paaaduvaangale..
lie detector test
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 06:49 PM [Full View]
The kavithais were the most irritating part of me becuase they were the most overt reminders of Suhasini. Not that I hate Suhasini but to have her character seep into the movie's(although might be intentional of Mani) was irritating.
There are other pointers to Suhasini being an inspiration of Ragini - her feisty physical confrontation of Veera resembles quite very much Suhasini's description of herself and her encounters with Vishnuvardhan (in her website). Apparently, she shocked Vishnuvardhan by not hesitating to get into physical combat with him when he indulged in gentle teasing of her. She quoted that as an insight into her character and feistiness. I cant find links now, though. The situation is quite different in Ravan but I do think Mani/Suhasini must have referred to Hasini's own personal experiences while shaping Ragini.
Now, I am not able to place this as good writing or bad writing or even whether I am interested by this connection - a Velu Nayakkaresque theriyalEppA is all I can muster, and that is the failing of the film(for me).
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From: NOV on 5th July 2010 07:03 PM [Full View]
you write kavithais? Originally Posted by Plum
onnummilla, prose itself can be confusing :P
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From: raghavendran on 5th July 2010 07:06 PM [Full View]
vikram talking abt his jelousy over prithvi....that part was gud...that he feels on top of everyone bcas of this jelous feeling..that was gud...
but overally maniratnam's films r known for razor sharp dialouges..but raavanan didnt have them..i couldn remember the dialouges even fter watching the film twice...but performance wise it was brilliant...vikram was at his best..he should b given his due..one of the best actors of his generations
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From: Pras on 5th July 2010 07:53 PM [Full View]
behindwoods.com
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Priyamani, Prithviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Munna, Ranjitha.
Direction: Mani Ratnam
Music: A R Rahman
Production: Madras Talkies Review
Mani’s magnum opus, although lacks the customary Mani Ratnam stamp makes up with its brilliant cinematography and songs. Vikram gives the movie his heart while Aishwarya Rai, her waterproof makeup.
Trade Talk:
The movie is reporting good business in the urban centers, thanks to the stellar star cast that is proving to be a major draw.
Public Talk:
Breathtaking visuals, but that’s all there is to it.
No. Weeks Completed: 2
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 276
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 75%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 54,85,561
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.3.97 Crore
Verdict: Average
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From: NOV on 6th July 2010 06:34 AM [Full View]
Chennai box office openings 2010
1 Raavanan - 88,46,206
2 Singam - 77,73,865
3 Sura - 71,51,083
4 Paiyaa - 70,99,863
5 Aayirathil Oruvan - 70,04,264
6 Vinnaithaandi Varuvaayaa - 64,66,062
7 Aasal - 62,53,908
8 Goa - 46,95,147
9 Kutty - 35,92,834
10 Theeradha Vilaiyattu Pillai - 30,52,823
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From: raghavendran on 6th July 2010 08:28 AM [Full View]
almost 4 crs in 2 weeks.... Originally Posted by NOV
Mani’s magnum opus, although lacks the customary Mani Ratnam stamp makes up with its brilliant cinematography and songs. Vikram gives the movie his heart while Aishwarya Rai, her waterproof makeup.
Trade Talk:
The movie is reporting good business in the urban centers, thanks to the stellar star cast that is proving to be a major draw.
Public Talk:
Breathtaking visuals, but that’s all there is to it.
No. Weeks Completed: 2
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 276
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 75%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 54,85,561
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.3.97 Crore
Verdict: Average
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 12:08 PM [Full View]
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullsto...1&cid=13525926
The status quo is being maintained. Raavanan is strong in the multiplexes, and is still at the
number one slot, third week in a row. At number two is Singam which continues to roar in single screens, while it has lost its fizz in the multiplexes. In the third position is Kalavani, which has picked up well thanks to its word of mouth. At number four is the new Hindi filmI Hate Luv Storys, which has netted a decent Rs 18.5 lakhs from seven Chennai screens. The Karate Kid continues to be impressive at number five.
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Pritviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Priya Mani
Director: Mani Ratnam
+ Camera, Locations, Vikram
- Story, Screenplay, dialogues
Trade Facts : Above Average
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 12:10 PM [Full View]
from average, sify gives now an "above average" mark ... next week, we will see "hit" ...
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 12:43 PM [Full View]
http://latestmoviesreleases.blogspot...an-review.html
On the whole Ravanan glorifies the Ravanan inside all of us and Vikram is truly the ten headed Ravanan of the film.
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 12:48 PM [Full View]
another good review :
http://www.findnearyou.com/finders/m...n/movie-review
Raavanan is a must see movie simply for the cinematography
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From: raghavendran on 6th July 2010 03:21 PM [Full View]
movie hitunnu avangale half yr reportle sollitange Originally Posted by Pras
from average, sify gives now an "above average" mark ... next week, we will see "hit" ...
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 05:16 PM [Full View]
Atlast, Madras Talkies recognises Prithviraj
By Moviebuzz | Tuesday, 06 July , 2010, 16:07
Finally a Raavanan ad has appeared with Prithviraj’s picture! The daily ad (July 6) for the film appearing in Tamil and English newspapers in Tamil Nadu has Prithviraj in police uniform.
The Raavanan newspaper ad campaign in Tamil Nadu has so far been totally dominated by Vikram and Aishwarya Rai pictures or scenes. Prithviraj has been ignored.
After the release of the film Prithviraj’s role in the film had come in for critical acclaim. The talk was that he was far superior playing the police officer Dev in Raavanan compared to Vikram who did the same role in Hindi version Raavan.
It is another feather on Prithviraj’s cap that he has finally been given his due in the posters and newspaper publicity of the film.
Is that true ?
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 05:16 PM [Full View]
so wait, innum super hit-nu sollalaye Originally Posted by raghavendran
movie hitunnu avangale half yr reportle sollitange Originally Posted by Pras
from average, sify gives now an "above average" mark ... next week, we will see "hit" ...
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From: m_23_bayarea on 6th July 2010 05:33 PM [Full View]
Need another option in the poll for "Great"!
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 05:48 PM [Full View]
then reinitialize everything .. i want to vote again ... Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Need another option in the poll for "Great"!
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From: Siv.S on 6th July 2010 05:59 PM [Full View]
I have not seen Raavan,but Prithivi acted pretty well in Raavanan. Originally Posted by Pras
After the release of the film Prithviraj’s role in the film had come in for critical acclaim. The talk was that he was far superior playing the police officer Dev in Raavanan compared to Vikram who did the same role in Hindi version Raavan.
Is that true ?
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From: Pras on 6th July 2010 06:02 PM [Full View]
neiither do I .. but they say that Prithvi's performance is FAR better than Vikram's Originally Posted by Siv.S
I have not seen Raavan,but Prithivi acted pretty well in Raavanan. Originally Posted by Pras
After the release of the film Prithviraj’s role in the film had come in for critical acclaim. The talk was that he was far superior playing the police officer Dev in Raavanan compared to Vikram who did the same role in Hindi version Raavan.
Is that true ?
edit : venumne Vikram hindi stars level-ku nadichirukaaro ?
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From: A.ANAND on 6th July 2010 06:55 PM [Full View]
Atlast, Madras Talkies recognises Prithviraj
By Moviebuzz | Tuesday, 06 July , 2010, 16:07
Finally a Raavanan ad has appeared with Prithviraj抯 picture! The daily ad (July 6) for the film appearing in Tamil and English newspapers in Tamil Nadu has Prithviraj in police uniform.
The Raavanan newspaper ad campaign in Tamil Nadu has so far been totally dominated by Vikram and Aishwarya Rai pictures or scenes. Prithviraj has been ignored.
After the release of the film Prithviraj抯 role in the film had come in for critical acclaim. The talk was that he was far superior playing the police officer Dev in Raavanan compared to Vikram who did the same role in Hindi version Raavan.
It is another feather on Prithviraj抯 cap that he has finally been given his due in the posters and newspaper publicity of the film.
The views expressed in the article are the author's and not of Sify.com.
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14948376
Ithuvum nallathan irukku!
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From: raghavendran on 6th July 2010 07:19 PM [Full View]
pras irundha irundhutu pogatume..he has done a gr8 job in tamizh Originally Posted by Pras
Atlast, Madras Talkies recognises Prithviraj
By Moviebuzz | Tuesday, 06 July , 2010, 16:07
Finally a Raavanan ad has appeared with Prithviraj’s picture! The daily ad (July 6) for the film appearing in Tamil and English newspapers in Tamil Nadu has Prithviraj in police uniform.
The Raavanan newspaper ad campaign in Tamil Nadu has so far been totally dominated by Vikram and Aishwarya Rai pictures or scenes. Prithviraj has been ignored.
After the release of the film Prithviraj’s role in the film had come in for critical acclaim. The talk was that he was far superior playing the police officer Dev in Raavanan compared to Vikram who did the same role in Hindi version Raavan.
It is another feather on Prithviraj’s cap that he has finally been given his due in the posters and newspaper publicity of the film.
Is that true ?
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From: Nerd on 6th July 2010 07:39 PM [Full View]
naan sEmbil-kku oru scene dhaan paarthEn. Originally Posted by P_R
Vikram says,
(Not verbatim)
avaru (referring to prithvi) enna kadavuLA?
avatara purushanaa
appazhukkillaadhavaraa 
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From: P_R on 6th July 2010 07:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: jaiganes on 6th July 2010 08:18 PM [Full View]
suhasini spoke in jaya tv and said though dialogues were penned by her, the thought and almost 75% of the lines came from mani himself. Bail plea approved.!!! Originally Posted by P_R
Originally Posted by Nerd
I felt that more than dialogues, the delivery was very funny. Except when Prabhu or Karthik spoke them rest of the dialogue deliveries were very vague and drew attention to the 'word' than the feeling and mood that needed conveying.
Halfway in between Pudhupettai now and I am amazed at the sharpness of dialogue (Selva and Balakumaran).
sembil:
Azhagam perumal (thalaivar): dey ithana neram idhai vechikitte dhaan entta athanai adi vaanginiya? kovathule eduthu poatrundheenna enna aagi irukkum
Dhanush (Kokki kumar): thoanichu, pinnaala edhaana paaththu pannuveengannu vittuten.
Later...
Azhagam perumal : inniku raathiri dhaanduviyaada neeye? Anbu aalungala enakku theiriyum. Sari da inniku raathiri dhaandinaa anbu area ondhu.
end sembil.
Though we fault suhasini for the dialogues, much of the spoken essence is seen and felt during the shot - Mani could have rectified many things there - or - did he screw up most of it.
After much thought and mental "rewind and play" , Raavanan seemed to be a product that was salvaged from a shipwreck than a originally conceived and planned effort as per plan.
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From: A.ANAND on 6th July 2010 08:21 PM [Full View]
famale audiance-ikku padam romba pudichirukku pola!
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From: jaiganes on 6th July 2010 08:30 PM [Full View]
ippdi onnu irukkO? Originally Posted by A.ANAND
famale audiance-ikku padam romba pudichirukku pola!
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From: A.ANAND on 6th July 2010 08:31 PM [Full View]
irunthatha-thane sollarom! Originally Posted by jaiganes
ippdi onnu irukkO? Originally Posted by A.ANAND
famale audiance-ikku padam romba pudichirukku pola!
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From: joe on 6th July 2010 08:34 PM [Full View]
I think it is the otherway Originally Posted by A.ANAND
famale audiance-ikku padam romba pudichirukku pola!
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From: Roshan on 6th July 2010 09:10 PM [Full View]
initial kidnap scenela rendu pErum kavithai paadurappavE 'pOchuda'-nu enakku confirmed aayiduchu. One more sembil crap delivered by ulaga azhagi to Vikram about the police officer Hemant "ivarOda thoppi uniform idhuthaan unga kannukku theriyuthu aana ivarukku amma-na bayam mariyaadhai". Originally Posted by Nerd
naan sEmbil-kku oru scene dhaan paarthEn. Originally Posted by P_R
Vikram says,
(Not verbatim)
avaru (referring to prithvi) enna kadavuLA?
avatara purushanaa
appazhukkillaadhavaraa
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From: joe on 6th July 2010 09:13 PM [Full View]
சாம்பிள் -லாம் கொடுக்க தேவையேயில்ல ..90 % வசனங்கள் ரொம்ப சிறுபிள்ளைத்தனமா தான் இருந்துச்சு.
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From: Plum on 6th July 2010 09:17 PM [Full View]
75% of the debit on dialogues to Mani-nu hasini ammaNi kai kAttitAngaLE - ippO enna seyya?
Maybe, Mani said to Suhasini - andha ragini character unna mAdhiri dhAn - nee chinna puLLA thanamA pEsara mAdhiriyE ezhudhidu - and that is why Suhasini is giving 75% of the debit to Mani?
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From: m_23_bayarea on 6th July 2010 09:20 PM [Full View]
Reading through some of these posts makes me wonder if analyzing something way too much will only lead to negativity!
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From: jaiganes on 6th July 2010 09:28 PM [Full View]
indha negativitynaala ungalukku enna nashtam? Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Reading through some of these posts makes me wonder if analyzing something way too much will only lead to negativity!
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From: Roshan on 6th July 2010 09:31 PM [Full View]
SirupillaithanamA irunthaalum paravaailla , perumpaalana vasanangaL loosuthanama irunthuchu. As in most MR movies the heroine looked a bit eccentric and kind of araikiRukku.
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From: joe on 6th July 2010 09:32 PM [Full View]
இது வேற யாரோட படமாயிருந்தா ஒரே வரியில தூக்கிக் போட்டுட்டு போயிட்டே இருப்பாங்க ..மணி ரத்னம் படம்ங்கிறதால நல்ல மாதிரியா சொல்ல ஏதாவது கிடைக்காதாண்னு தேடித் தேடி பார்க்குறதாலத் தான் இந்த ஆராய்ச்சியெல்லாம் Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Reading through some of these posts makes me wonder if analyzing something way too much will only lead to negativity!
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From: jaiganes on 6th July 2010 09:35 PM [Full View]
The whole movie was like taking that interesting scene in thalabadhi in collector office involving surya, arjun and devarajan and setting it in jungle with arjun and surya talking through a translator called Raagini and the effect is sometimes reflected in the small child like dialaaks. Atleast some freewheeling "lost in the jungle like romancing the stone" episode between Raagini and Veeraiyya could have induced some carefree fun. The whole serious crap was too much unintentional fun(Whenever Vikram said Maettukkudi - I felt like bringing the gounder in and say ''ennraa mettukudi saathukudinnuttu, pesama andha thanniya konjam oothikudippa". This movie will be remembered for the unintentionally funny things like Prabhu's eye colors and the seriously funny lip movements of aishwarya rai when she talks to the statue, plus the most ridiculous interrogation of an amputated man by Dev. Once we pass through the "Mani padamaa idhu" phase, then we can enjoy this film for being totally unintentionally funny.
The whole long winding revenge attempt by veerayya was like Irumbukottai's Nasser quipping "Lets have a long musical torture to you Mr.singam"
A big loosaappaa nee padam this one from Talented Mr.Mani.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 6th July 2010 09:36 PM [Full View]
No more screening for Ravanan in UK, the last screening is on the 8th of Juy!
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From: Thirumaran on 6th July 2010 09:38 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
naan sEmbil-kku oru scene dhaan paarthEn. Originally Posted by P_R
Vikram says,
(Not verbatim)
avaru (referring to prithvi) enna kadavuLA?
avatara purushanaa
appazhukkillaadhavaraa
Aishwarya rai ya kadathinathum, ammani kavitha paesum boathe nonthu poitaen...
Give half credit to MR for the dialgues.. Dialogues are not the only worst parts.. That takes the max credit.. without any doubt worst Mani movie ever and the worst this year.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 6th July 2010 09:41 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Originally Posted by Nerd
naan sEmbil-kku oru scene dhaan paarthEn. Originally Posted by P_R
Vikram says,
(Not verbatim)
avaru (referring to prithvi) enna kadavuLA?
avatara purushanaa
appazhukkillaadhavaraa
Aishwarya rai ya kadathinathum, ammani kavitha paesum boathe nonthu poitaen...
Give half credit to MR for the dialgues.. Dialogues are not the only worst parts.. That takes the max credit.. without any doubt worst Mani movie ever and the worst this year.
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From: thamiz on 6th July 2010 10:23 PM [Full View]
Surprisingly movie is doing reasonably well in chennai. It should have been an utter flop to punish MR properly for coming up with worthless movie like this!
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From: Dilbert on 6th July 2010 11:17 PM [Full View]
Blockbusteraa? - Hope its true.
Hope MR won't make the same mistake again of balancing Gindi and Tamil together.
It was Vada paav Dosa
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From: Movie Cop on 7th July 2010 12:12 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Blockbusteraa? - Hope its true.
Hope MR won't make the same mistake again of balancing Gindi and Tamil together.
It was Vada paav Dosa
Agree with you on this. IMO, MR should stop make multi-lingual movies and should focus on making a straight film (either Hindi or Thamizh) in future. Have watched only "Raavan". Even without seeing "Raavanan", I get a feeling that "Raavan" was MR's main entree. The Tamil 'alter' is a mere shadow (or Plan B, if you may call). Irony has it that, it's the "Plan B" that worked @ BO to some extent for MR!
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From: Jyothsna on 7th July 2010 09:51 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 09:55 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Blockbusteraa? - Hope its true.
neengalum comedy pannaatheenga
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From: raghavendran on 7th July 2010 09:58 AM [Full View]
hit...poruma...ippe ungalukku santhosam dhaane thiru sir... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Blockbusteraa? - Hope its true.
neengalum comedy pannaatheenga
indhe varshathode ore BB namme ENDHIRAN mattumdhaan
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From: A.ANAND on 7th July 2010 10:16 AM [Full View]
atheppadi!avalo seekiram enthiran BB aaga vitturuvanggala??intha projec-la ARR irukareppa Originally Posted by raghavendran
hit...poruma...ippe ungalukku santhosam dhaane thiru sir... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Blockbusteraa? - Hope its true.
neengalum comedy pannaatheenga
indhe varshathode ore BB namme ENDHIRAN mattumdhaan ARR music pandra movie flop aaganum innu thookam kuda illama 'kola veri'yoda alayuthu innga oru group!
surya padam mattum-than odanum!
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From: AudazJay on 7th July 2010 10:39 AM [Full View]
Appedi ellam conclude panne mudiyathu Anand.
VTV was a hit, btw. On the other hand, except Boys, what are the other Shankar-ARR movies which turned out to be flops?
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From: ajaybaskar on 7th July 2010 10:59 AM [Full View]
I DONT THINK BOYS WAS A FLOP. IT RECOVERED THE COST...
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From: A.ANAND on 7th July 2010 11:01 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by AudazJay
enthiran sure BB-than!but arr music pandara movie-ya iruntha venumunne ingga oru 'group' kevalama comment pannna eppavume irukku! bgm sari illa,athu sari illai innu!
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From: groucho070 on 7th July 2010 11:02 AM [Full View]
Thambi Thilak kanavillai? Argue panni argue panni nonthupoyetaara?
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 11:07 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raghavendran
almost 4 crs in 2 weeks.... Originally Posted by NOV
Mani’s magnum opus, although lacks the customary Mani Ratnam stamp makes up with its brilliant cinematography and songs. Vikram gives the movie his heart while Aishwarya Rai, her waterproof makeup.
Trade Talk:
The movie is reporting good business in the urban centers, thanks to the stellar star cast that is proving to be a major draw.
Public Talk:
Breathtaking visuals, but that’s all there is to it.
No. Weeks Completed: 2
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 276
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 75%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 54,85,561
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.3.97 Crore
Verdict: Average
2o days successful running now , not a disaster like some people expected..
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 11:08 AM [Full View]
yAr indha some people(Anbanai thaviranot a disaster like some people expected.. )
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 11:09 AM [Full View]
Kandippa neenga illa plum Originally Posted by Plum
yAr indha some people(Anbanai thaviranot a disaster like some people expected.. )
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From: raghavendran on 7th July 2010 11:11 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
Originally Posted by AudazJay
enthiran sure BB-than!but arr music pandara movie-ya iruntha venumunne ingga oru 'group' kevalama comment pannna eppavume irukku! bgm sari illa,athu sari illai innu! .....enthiranaukkum oru akka por seyavendiayudhu irukkum..thevai illame start pannuvange...
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From: A.ANAND on 7th July 2010 11:12 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Kandippa neenga illa plum Originally Posted by Plum
yAr indha some people(Anbanai thaviranot a disaster like some people expected.. )
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 11:16 AM [Full View]
Anand,i meant it.....I dont think he give any importance to BO and all.
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From: P_R on 7th July 2010 11:17 AM [Full View]
இதைத்தான் கற்றோர் மணி-ரமணி என்பர். Originally Posted by jaiganes
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From: Pras on 7th July 2010 01:08 PM [Full View]
RAAVANAN VS RAAVAN
Home > Visitor Column
By Behindwoods Visitor Bharath Mahadevan
The views expressed in this column are that of the visitor. Behindwoods.com doesn't hold responsible for its content.
For years now Mani Ratnam has never been able to create a movie in the league of Nayagan, Iruvar, Anjali or Kannathil. With Raavanan (with the *an*), he has created a masterpiece which can stake claim as one of his best Tamil films ever. Raavan (without the *an*) is good, but unfortunately Abhishek had to be pitted against Vikram and this is a no contest.
Unlike what most reviews say, Raavanan is not to show how Vikram is a Robin Hood or the gray in his character. Its a typical Mani Ratnam movie where the audience effortlessly falls in love with the anti-hero (more effortlessly with every film of his - from the detailed story in Nayagan to not so detailed in Dalapathy to more and more crisp editing in Dil Se and Guru).
Also, unlike what most reviews say, Raavanan is anything but slow - It shows editing at its best and crispiest - The Prithviraj - Ash romance in one song, the Naxal theme in one song, Vikram’s character in a couple of frames and Vikram falling in love in one brilliantly choreographed song which is poetry in modern frames! The editing is so taut that it’s easy to miss a dialogue or a connection to the epic - Hanuman, Vibheeshan, Kumbhakarna, Jatayu. Blink and you miss a scene where Ash gets out of the train and waits for Prithviraj. Turn away and you miss the human side of Vikram falling in love with Ash.
This is one movie where Mani Ratnam has
deliberately left a lot of ambiguities. What does Sita go back for? What happens after the end? Who does she love, or does she love Raavanan at all? Who is Raavanan - A brilliant psycho? Millions of voices ringing in his head? Is the movie about Good Vs Evil, about how love destroys, about the captive and captor? Or is it about the Naxals? Or a bit of everything? Or is it a simple love story? Is Prithviraj involved in the Shurpanaka incident? Is he just a righteous cop who'll do anything for justice? Was Ash imagining Vikram falling on her and getting close to her, like the other dream sequences?
There’s no point talking about the brilliantly backlit frames, excellent music or the sets or the cinematography - These are all taken for granted in a Mani Ratnam movie. As are good acting performances from the side cast, especially Priyamani, Prabhu, Karthik and Ravi Kishen.
Finally, the point which most reviewers have missed. Ash's performance - The best by any adult heroine in a Mani Ratnam film (along with maybe Manisha in Bombay), and the best by any heroine in recent times.
And Raavanan Vs Raavan - Raavan is by far better than any of the mindless stuff which comes out of Bollywood these days. And Abhishek doesn't have a good PR manager like that fellow who played Arjun in Rajneeti Abhi isn't as good as Vikram, but by any standards an Abhishek performance in a Mani Ratnam film is better than any other peer - Ranbir, Imran Khan etc.
Mani Ratnam is way ahead of his time in filmmaking. He defines moviemaking style in India in terms of camerawork, choreography, music and themes. Nayagan came in years before Company and Sarkar or any Mafia movie in India. Look at Mammootty and Rajnikanth in Dalapathy versus Manoj Bajpai and Ajay Devgn in Raajneeti. Dil Se was way ahead of its time. When Yuva was released, Bollywood was still caught in the traditional fare. Now, six years after Yuva we have mainstream films which are not typical love stories. So we need to wait for a few years for critics to applaud Raavan (without the *an* - that’s already a masterpiece) as a path breaking movie. Haven’t we waited years for critics to say Iruvar, Dil Se and Yuva were good movies after they were ripped apart when they were launched?
Finally - Which other director in India would have the guts to present Ram as the villain and Raavan as the hero?
Raavan makes you think. It requires you to keep up with its breakneck speed. Not a simple movie like Guru, which is why it has flopped.
Bharath Mahadevan
bharath.mahadevan@gmail.com
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/...-03-07-10.html
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From: Pras on 7th July 2010 01:09 PM [Full View]
Chennai, these days, is under a pleasant spell of weather which makes people look up to their calendar to check what time of the year they are in. Adding to this spell of delight, the contest winners of behindwoods.com had one more reason to rejoice - their meeting with Cheeyan Vikram.
It was a pleasant afternoon in Chennai and the winners were eagerly waiting for their Raavanan aka Veeraiya to arrive. Not making his fans wait for long hours, Vikram arrived sooner. He was dapper in a pair of jeans and a black round neck T shirt and he accessorized them perfectly with beads round his neck. However, it was not his attire or looks that impressed the gathering but his joie de vivre was the reason that floored them.
Accepting the huge garland from team Behindwoods with a smile bigger and fresher than the garland itself, Vikram was ready to interact with his fans right from the word go. He began the session with a jocular comment – “you can ask me anything but Raavanan, Mani Ratnam, Aishwarya Rai, Abhishek, Priya Mani and Prithviraj.” When the audience was reeling under this comment trying to assimilate his words, he followed it with quick live wire comment – “I was just kidding” - much to everyone’s relief.
He braced all kinds of queries thrown at him with an honest demeanor that belied his stardom. The questions ranged from his career to favorite directors to his future projects. An elderly woman impressed the Raavanan himself when she wanted to know if he had used a body double in the climax scene when she said, “enakke bak bak nnu irundadu anda scene paakumpodu. Neenga eppadi pannineenga?” Vikram was evidently impressed by the lady’s usage of words, obviously from Raavanan, and replied using her words that he did not use a body double but all the same was tensed during those shots.
Another fan wanted to know who is the one actress that he is eager to pair with, now that he has acted with the most beautiful woman (implying Aishwarya Rai). “Angeline Jolie,” came the quick reply.
According to him, Chappani of 16 Vayadinile is one character he would like to essay. To another fan who questioned about Vikram’s competitor whether it was Suriya or Kamal or Vijay, he said that it was him who he is competing with and no one else.
When the discussions veered to masala films and some of his fans expressed their desire that he should not feature in such movies, Vikram politely said that he would also do them but bring in his own uniqueness to such films.
The session proceeded with many more such questions and the fans showered their plaudits on the star for his remarkable performance in Raavanan. Finally, it was the photograph and the autograph session which the National Award winner obliged with an ever smiling face.
Like all good things must come to end, the afternoon also culminated but with lovely memories to take home to which his fans are sure to cherish for a long while.
Thank You Vikram!
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-26-06-10.html
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 03:01 PM [Full View]
naan unkittayum Maddy kittayum yaerkanavae sonnathuthaan.. w.r.t to chennai it might become hit.. but for that too, it has still more to go.. Considering the budjet and Mega Ads, this is not enough for a hit status even w.r.t to chennai.. Except chennai (in Tamil nadu) the movie is below average / average... Originally Posted by raghavendran
intha varushathula vanthidumaa Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 03:05 PM [Full View]
TM, ippO box office success illainA enna pOchu? Thiruppachi ellAm box office success dhAn - adhukkAga is it a better movie? Please dont raise the Box Office bogey every time, it is a crutch for mass heroes and a justification for their existence. nAlu nalla padam vandhu thOthAlum paravA illai. nammaLE kolai veriyOda indha padathai ellAm box officela pOchu pOchunu sonnA apram thiruppachi paarthukittu okkAra vEndiyadhu dhAn.
(Not that I think Ravanan is a great movie, but any day, I'd take it over ThiruppAchi. Yes, I am aware of the counter argument that this will encourage a new kind of mediocrity but I dont think it is that flawed to draw that reaction.)
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From: raghavendran on 7th July 2010 03:10 PM [Full View]
but BO success is the ultimate reason why people r making films....if its a hit,then it means people have liked it..no 1 would spen so much crs for getting appreciation from critics alone... Originally Posted by Plum
infact that is of their least importance
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From: joe on 7th July 2010 03:21 PM [Full View]
Namakku paravayilla ..Padam eduthavanukku ? Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 03:35 PM [Full View]
The spirit of the comment was not that "nalla padam Box office-la thOkkaNum". It was "thOthA thappillai". indha thyagathai andha producer paNNiyE AgaNum
To elaborate, when you make thiruppachi, are you assured of success? No, as Sura or Asal will testify. Yet, nobody will question the rationale of a producer today who backs the next "mass movie". But you take the off-beat movies - if Raavanan fails, it is the death knell for Manirathnam. Then all theories as to why such movies wont be welcomed will come in. This becomes an excuse for distributors to demand to introduce item songs and fights into the next Bala or Kamal or Mani movie.
Idhu ipdi irukkarachE, maarupatta movies varaNumnu virumbaravangaLE, indha padathukku Box office pOchu pOchunu solli kittirundhA edhir katchi kAran enna nenaippAn?
Naan KadavuL kUda thAn periya hit illai? So what?
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 03:57 PM [Full View]
Plum, Originally Posted by Plum
Being a Kamal fan do u think i would be saying BO Success is factor to Judje Good movies :P
I bring BO factors just for various reasons along with some fun.. For examples...
1. Here the run so far for this movie in city is mostly based on expectation, publicity and the big names associated with it.. Certain people think the movies is excellent and gets Lots of good WOM due to Mani's name and few other factors..
2. Appuram some places based on 100 days people judje movie's victory which is wrong assumption..
3. Surya related threads la Surya kaaga.. since most are looking for some thing to dig at him i am taking some advantages like BO Success.. I just like him under current actors more. People here believes that i am a hardcore fan of him which is not :P
like that..
Ungalukku therinjirukkaathu.. I used to say this thirukural on good but flopped movies years before..
kaana muyaleitha ambinil yaanai pizhaiththa
vael yaenthal inithu...
but there is another misconception.. If a movie from great director, people could not accept that movie is bad.. some how their mind thinks to get right on the movie which looks very artificial..
nallaaa oadalainaa nalla movie nnu kooda ninaikiravanga irukaanga :P
IMO movies should either bring great entertainment or shd be a different experience..
Tirupachi is entertainment and it satifies the section it targets (of course for me it is bad film).. Anbe Sivam is a wonderful experience..
Where as Raavanan is neither.. It does not fit into anything.. It is a bad movie by a great director. Just because it is made by maniratnam, by default it cannot be good.
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 04:07 PM [Full View]
The question is,How can you say that? Ella padam varum pothum oru TN tour povengala? and you always bring 100 days thing w.r.t VTV,i know... I agree with you if the movie made run for single show in chennai... most of them doing that these days,in theatres like albert. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
naan unkittayum Maddy kittayum yaerkanavae sonnathuthaan.. w.r.t to chennai it might become hit.. but for that too, it has still more to go.. Considering the budjet and Mega Ads, this is not enough for a hit status even w.r.t to chennai.. Except chennai (in Tamil nadu) the movie is below average / average... Originally Posted by raghavendran
BUt VTV crossed 60+days in smaller towns, and 100 days outside TN, bangalore,trivandrum... clubbing VTV with other 200 days poster movie is ridiculous.
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 04:23 PM [Full View]
Maran, i think we can expect data on world hunger problem from you in a day .......
U r always 'assuming' and 'generalising' and finally arrive at a conclusion which is so simplistic and superficial at the same time.........
people like thilak who are not exactly mani fans have loved the movie - all sites have given positive reports -- people have really liked the movie and it is really a superhit - everything is there in front of u but u r trying to build a theory around solid facts to paint it bad.........
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From: P_R on 7th July 2010 04:25 PM [Full View]
Last weekend was the third weekend (right?). I couldn't get tickets in Ampa, Sathyam, Inox, ags etc. and went all the way to Mayajaal. So I think the film is doing fairly well. How come, is a different question altogether.
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:30 PM [Full View]
Just based on certain samples near by... In outer chennai itself.. Originally Posted by Siv.S
The question is,How can you say that? Ella padam varum pothum oru TN tour povengala? and you always bring 100 days thing w.r.t VTV,i know... I agree with you if the movie made run for single show in chennai... most of them doing that these days,in theatres like albert. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
naan unkittayum Maddy kittayum yaerkanavae sonnathuthaan.. w.r.t to chennai it might become hit.. but for that too, it has still more to go.. Considering the budjet and Mega Ads, this is not enough for a hit status even w.r.t to chennai.. Except chennai (in Tamil nadu) the movie is below average / average... Originally Posted by raghavendran
1. Tambaram area -- After 2 weeks reduced to 2 shows and might be taken after 3 weeks.. where as other recent big movie ran 5 weeks and i think still continuing..
2. Chrompet area - after 2 weeks reduced to 2 shows and looks like going to be removed after 3 weeks.. whereas other big movie running in the nearby pallavaram for sixth week...
3. In my office area (OMR) Arvind theater, Singam ran for 4 weeks and Raavanan just one week..
Outer proper chennai area vae ithaan nilama.. then i know in areas like Arakonam, tiruthani, etc (enakku therinja places) .. i judge based on that :P And always my judjement matches when half yearly or yearly trade reports comes :P
Regarding 100 days and VTV i had talked a lot in VTV itself .. not interested in repeating everything again and again..
Simple aa sollanumna for any movie 100 days is for the sake of it in the past 5 years or so be it a blocbuster or flop...
Mega Blockbuster Dasa ran 100 days in Sathyam complex alone for one show only in whole india. Where as ur fav movie VTV ran for more shows and theaters.. I am pretty sure in terms of over all collections VTV is not even 20% of Dasa Collections. Where as in the same year of Dasa Kuruvi ran for 150 days.. Kuruvi and VTV are from Same production company and i know the capability of them across places. Trade report half yeary says VTV overall is 18 crores where as Paiyya and Singam are much more than VTV.
P.S : I am not expecting any one to accept it. Anyway, innaikku my Quota over :P
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From: ajaybaskar on 7th July 2010 04:31 PM [Full View]
I think brand Mani is the reason.. Moreover, Except Kalavaani there is'nt a better movie to watch..
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From: ajaybaskar on 7th July 2010 04:34 PM [Full View]
Mani sir,
I am really feeling sorry for you.. There were days when Nayagan was compared with God Father, Guru with citizen kane.. One average movie and see where you are.. SINGAM..
Idhu thevaiya?
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:35 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
See ur statement below..
U r always 'assuming' and 'generalising' and finally arrive at a conclusion
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:43 PM [Full View]
Singam is better. .they are not saying the movie is world class and keeping dialogues of Urainadai and kavithai types for the characters set on forest areas
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From: mnaren555 on 7th July 2010 04:45 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
ivarukkae tired'a aagatha
yaarayavathu vambuku izhithutae irukkar
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:45 PM [Full View]
Mani, Visuals, Sound systems..etc for the decent run in Such big complexes i would say.. Originally Posted by P_R
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From: mnaren555 on 7th July 2010 04:46 PM [Full View]
chicken65 also better Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Singam is better. .they are not saying the movie is world class and keeping dialogues of Urainadai and kavithai types for the characters set on forest areas
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From: avven on 7th July 2010 04:47 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
engala correct ta puruchi vachi irukinga
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From: Pras on 7th July 2010 04:49 PM [Full View]
i am right now having a beer on my balcony with a 30 degree Celcius temp. outside ... that is also better Originally Posted by mnaren555
chicken65 also better Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Singam is better. .they are not saying the movie is world class and keeping dialogues of Urainadai and kavithai types for the characters set on forest areas
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:49 PM [Full View]
nee antha list layae illayae.. yaen vanthu maatikira, ungalyum vambukku izhukanumaa Originally Posted by mnaren555
yaarayavathu vambuku izhithutae irukkar
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:50 PM [Full View]
ippa neenga accept panra maathiri onnu solraen paaraen,,, Originally Posted by avven
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
engala correct ta puruchi vachi irukinga
Vaettaikaaran is a blockbuster :P illayaa
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From: mnaren555 on 7th July 2010 04:51 PM [Full View]
chinna paiyan kitta beer athu ithunu pesathinga Originally Posted by Pras
i am right now having a beer on my balcony with a 30 degree Celcius temp. outside ... that is also better Originally Posted by mnaren555
chicken65 also better Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Singam is better. .they are not saying the movie is world class and keeping dialogues of Urainadai and kavithai types for the characters set on forest areas
btw antha 30 degree la oru doubt... aana keka maatean :P
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 04:52 PM [Full View]
Ennathuuu Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Mani, Visuals, Sound systems..etc for the decent run in Such big complexes i would say.. Originally Posted by P_R
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From: mnaren555 on 7th July 2010 04:52 PM [Full View]
hello... ya na than naren... tho vanthuttean Originally Posted by Thirumaran
nee antha list layae illayae.. yaen vanthu maatikira, ungalyum vambukku izhukanumaa Originally Posted by mnaren555
yaarayavathu vambuku izhithutae irukkar
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 04:56 PM [Full View]
So what ? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
that doesnt mean VTV is not superhit,from your above quote you can add one more point below...
4. Always trying hard to brand someone's movie as not successful,and trying to provoke his fans to have some fun.
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 04:57 PM [Full View]
Prasanna shd be happy again :P
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From: avven on 7th July 2010 04:58 PM [Full View]
na aatha sun pictures sei sollitaanga neenga solla veandam enaku Originally Posted by Thirumaran
ippa neenga accept panra maathiri onnu solraen paaraen,,,
Vaettaikaaran is a blockbuster :P illayaa
..raavanan collection 2 weeks la 4 cores collection nalla matter thaanei..yethuvanthu theiva illama ippadi mokka pooduringa
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 05:11 PM [Full View]
Paiyya 30 + crores, Singam 40 + Crores Originally Posted by Siv.S
So what ? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
that doesnt mean VTV is not superhit,from your above quote you can add one more point below...
http://movies.rediff.com/slide-show/...htm#contentTop
If VTV is Superhit, Then looks like Singam is a blockbuster
It is ur and some people's desperate attempt to brand me as someone's enemy.. :P if u think so live with it. I dont mind. i am not living to satisfy every one Originally Posted by Siv.S
Time to go
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From: Siv.S on 7th July 2010 05:17 PM [Full View]
Your nitpicking of particular movies made us to think like that. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
It is ur and some people's desperate attempt to brand me as someone's enemy.. :P Originally Posted by Siv.S
No need to mention this,everyone shares the same opinion. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
if u think so live with it. I dont mind. i am not living to satisfy every one
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From: raghavendran on 7th July 2010 05:30 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
seems people exept thiru are agreeing that raavanan is a hit...
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From: ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar on 7th July 2010 05:44 PM [Full View]
i think the tamilnadu theater association has to come up with a yearly box office report for all districts in TN. That will prove a movie's performance.
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From: raghavendran on 7th July 2010 05:57 PM [Full View]
yes..then v wil have a clear picture...but now v have to rely on news[a[ers ans sites like sify,behindwoods..as thr is no other go..things wil change...as how many days a movie is running is not important.. Originally Posted by ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
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From: rangan_08 on 7th July 2010 06:51 PM [Full View]
The excessive praises showered on the dialogue writer prompted me to write this….
Ice : சாமி, கெட்டவங்கள கெட்டவங்களாவே காட்டு. நல்லவங்களா காட்டாத ( idhu saambil)
Now for the comments......
MGR : அடா அடா அடாடா!!! ம்ம்ம்..பிரமாதம்.
Sivaji : வெதச்ச வெதயே சரியில்ல. அப்புறம் எங்க பளஞ்சாப்பிட்றது?
Bhagyaraj : என்ன dialaak idhu? கலாக்கா பலாக்காங்கற மாறே? My bad luck, எனக்கெல்லாம் chance kedaikala
Mani : போதும். விட்டுடு. இதோட எல்லாத்தையும் விட்டுடு.
Sujata : Oxygen tube-a சொருகி என்னை பரிதாபமா பாத்துட்டு அந்த nurse வெளியே சென்றார். ஆஸ்பத்திரி வாடையையும் மீறீ ஒரு மெல்லிய நறுமனத்தை உணர்ந்தேன். சிறிது நேரம் கழித்து மணி வந்தார். இந்த மனுசன் பூட்ட கேஸ், இனி இவனால் வசனம் எழுத முடியாது என்று தெதிந்து கொண்டார்.
நானோ டெக்னாலஜியை பயன்படுத்தி NASA விஞ்ஞானிகள் அதி நவீன கருவியைக் கண்டு பிடித்திருக்கிறார்கள். விநாடிக்கு 1330 permutaion & combination-ல் யோசித்து(?!) பட்த்துக்கு அது வசனம் எழுதி விடும். அதை வாங்கிக் கொள்ளுங்கள் என்றேன். என் suggestion-ஐ அவர் ஏற்கவில்லை.
இங்கே மேல் லோகத்தில், ராவணன் பட்த்தை பார்த்தேயாக வேண்டும் என்று ராமர் என்னிடம் ஒரே அடம். நான் தான், முதுகில் ஓரே எரிச்சல், வலி பிராணன் போறது என்று சொல்லி நைசாக ஜகா வாங்கி விட்டேன்.
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 07:16 PM [Full View]
rangan
bath room la poi yosipeengalo
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 07:18 PM [Full View]
Awesome! Originally Posted by rangan_08
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From: ajaybaskar on 7th July 2010 07:20 PM [Full View]
Good one, Rangan..
Esp Sujatha's..
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From: venkkiram on 7th July 2010 07:25 PM [Full View]
எக்காலத்திலும் பொருந்தி வருகிற ஆழ்ந்த வசனமாக இதைப் பார்க்கிறேன். வாழ்த்துக்கள் சுஹாசினி. உங்களுக்கும் நல்லா வசனம் எழுத முடியும் என இந்தப் படத்துல இதுபோன்ற சில தருணங்களில் நிரூபிச்சிட்டிங்க. Originally Posted by rangan_08
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 07:27 PM [Full View]
"Stout denial, boy, stout denial" said Sir Galahad "There is no better defence".
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2010 07:29 PM [Full View]
venkiram,
ippadi ellaam sollrathaala, Mani thirumbavum suhaasini ya next movie la dialogue ezhutha vachchi, oraediyaa kaanaama poiduvaarnu kanavu kaanaatheenga
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From: tamizharasan on 7th July 2010 08:02 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by venkkiram
எக்காலத்திலும் பொருந்தி வருகிற ஆழ்ந்த வசனமாக இதைப் பார்க்கிறேன். வாழ்த்துக்கள் சுஹாசினி. உங்களுக்கும் நல்லா வசனம் எழுத முடியும் என இந்தப் படத்துல இதுபோன்ற சில தருணங்களில் நிரூபிச்சிட்டிங்க. Originally Posted by rangan_08
ஆமாம். சில தருணங்களில் நிரூபித்து, பல தருணங்களில் வதைத்து விட்டார்கள்.
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From: joe on 7th July 2010 08:12 PM [Full View]
Rangan
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From: P_R on 7th July 2010 08:52 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Plum
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From: jaiganes on 7th July 2010 09:18 PM [Full View]
@Rangan - u made my day!!!
Ravan - nice new metallic frame car with no wheels - stays longer in the showroom than any other car.
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From: Movie Cop on 7th July 2010 10:37 PM [Full View]
I wouldn't be that harsh on Raavan. To me, it's a "economy class", flashy new sports car sans longevity. Originally Posted by jaiganes
IMO, looking at the stunning visuals and landscape, MR could have even further diluted his characters and could have gone full throttle on to his surreal world to make a unremorseful action/adventure - (a la Indiana Jones, let's say). How I wish MR could have made a Pandora out of Lal Matti.
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From: kalyan on 7th July 2010 10:52 PM [Full View]
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From: Mukzi on 7th July 2010 11:45 PM [Full View]
SAttapaddii Response... Originally Posted by kalyan
TM anna, Originally Posted by mnaren555
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
ivarukkae tired'a aagatha
yaarayavathu vambuku izhithutae irukkar
intha BO naansense ellAm vittudunga. Bollywood/Kollywood BO collection figures ippo ellAm veRa diemnsionla poyittirukku
For eg, you must have heard the 'D' gang and other mafia groups investing money n Bollywood and similarly some bigwigs starting production houses in Kollywood. do you think they are 'Mangaai madaiyan"s to put money in an 'industry' where the recovery rates are hardly 20%?? arent they fools to dream that they will make money in such an industry where bigtimers of the last 50 years have shut shops (gemini, vauhini) or hesitating to invest in these troubled times (AVM)??
nope, they arent fools. their intention is not to make money. they do it just to change the money's color. thats it.
lets assume i am a close associate of a gang (assume 'D' company) I have 15 C of white money with me. My boss gives me 50 C (obviously black) asking me to convert it to white. I will hire a top star who demands 15 C as remuneration, give 12 C in black and 3 C in white (which he happily accepts). ditto for heroine, director, music director and cameraman. (total expenditure till now: 5 C in white and 20 C in black) then i spend another 10 C in production cost (mostly white) So my total extenditure for the movie till the prints are made is Rs. 15 C (white)
Now I sell the movie rights to distributors for 50 C (all white, obviously) and keep a few areas (like overseas rights, satellite rights, chennai city etc) with myself. i keep a few areas with me so that i can artificially show high collection figures there too, to the tune of nearly 15 C.
now, if the movie doesnt seem to recover the high cost, the distributors will approach me to compensate for their losses. silently, i will pay them 10-15 C (Black), depending on how badly the movie is doing in the BO. to show their gratitude, they will issue statement to media like "VaralARu kANA collection mazhai" and so on. also, as a return of favour, they will make sure that the movie will be 'run' in a handful of theaters till 100 or 150 days.
now when i submit my IT returns, I will show the entire 65 C as my share of collections/profits from the movie including the production costs. Choooooooooo mantra kALI!!!!!!!!!!!!! everything has become white now. understood?
so the next time some kid comes and starts a discussion about 'star power' and 'collection figures', lets just ignore him
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From: GSV on 8th July 2010 12:08 AM [Full View]
plural la solringale... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
nee antha list layae illayae.. yaen vanthu maatikira, ungalyum vambukku izhukanumaa Originally Posted by mnaren555
yaarayavathu vambuku izhithutae irukkar
nethu vijay
innaiku vikram
nalaiku ?????
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From: cepark on 8th July 2010 01:28 AM [Full View]
hi some one asks NAAN varuveen song(320kbps good quality) got rel....
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XUHSTLBH
here is the link....
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From: Pras on 8th July 2010 01:55 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by cepark
downloading right now ... danks a lot
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From: cepark on 8th July 2010 02:02 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
Originally Posted by cepark
downloading right now ... danks a lot
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From: krsenthilkumaran on 8th July 2010 11:42 AM [Full View]
Thread title Kalaingar family's role in tamil cinema nu vaachaa nalla irukkum...
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From: NOV on 8th July 2010 11:42 AM [Full View]
and, how is Raavanan?
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From: Siv.S on 8th July 2010 11:43 AM [Full View]
Not released by them,still managed to get more number of theatres Originally Posted by NOV
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From: Thirumaran on 8th July 2010 11:51 AM [Full View]
yeah. Power of Mani + Vikram + Arr combination Originally Posted by Siv.S
Not released by them,still managed to get more number of theatres Originally Posted by NOV
In fact the biggest this year
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From: Pras on 8th July 2010 10:30 PM [Full View]
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 12:24 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
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From: kalyan on 9th July 2010 01:32 AM [Full View]
also remove the 15 people who are blindly pro vikram/ MR/ ARR (5 for each), then you will get the real picture Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
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From: VinodKumar's on 9th July 2010 02:01 AM [Full View]
Prasad sorry Prasanna, Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Yean ippdilam
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From: venkkiram on 9th July 2010 02:21 AM [Full View]
இப்படியும் வச்சிக்கலாமே கல்யாண்! Originally Posted by kalyan
also remove the 15 people who are blindly pro vikram/ MR/ ARR (5 for each), then you will get the real picture Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Pro - எப்போதும் உண்மைய பேசுறவங்க!
Average - சமயத்துக்கு தகுந்தாற்போல உண்மைய பேசுறவங்க!
Bad - எப்போதும் பொய்யை பேசுவதோடு மட்டுமல்லாமல் பிரச்சாரமும் செய்வார்கள்!
இப்போ உண்மையை கணக்கிடவேண்டும் என்றால், முதல் இரண்டு குழுக்களையும் சேர்த்து, மூன்றாம் குழுவை நீக்கி விடுதலே சரி!
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From: Siv.S on 9th July 2010 02:46 AM [Full View]
Atleast entha language-la post panrenagannu sonna puriyarathukku oru muyarchi-aavathu eduppom .. .. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 03:40 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Atleast entha language-la post panrenagannu sonna puriyarathukku oru muyarchi-aavathu eduppom .. .. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
my tamlish is very weak.
At last MR film has come to stage , where people have sell it like vegetable vendor in India.. !
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From: Siv.S on 9th July 2010 04:25 AM [Full View]
What to do boss? what MR will do ? he made your favorite star to act brilliantly... wonderful movie..that movie was not successful to the producer .. that was the last good acting and good movie by your favorite star,i have not seen any better movie after that from your star..fans like you made that movie also failure....enna panrathu ippa? Nalla movie koduthalum flop aakkidurenga... Kaasu pottu padam edukira producerkku konjamavathu profit kodukkka venama? Originally Posted by Dilbert
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Atleast entha language-la post panrenagannu sonna puriyarathukku oru muyarchi-aavathu eduppom .. .. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae.. Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster my tamlish is very weak.
At last MR film has come to stage , where people have sell it like vegetable vendor in India.. !
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From: VinodKumar's on 9th July 2010 05:17 AM [Full View]
Ennya kisu kisu eluthuringa ? Yaarantha actor. Originally Posted by Siv.S
What to do boss? what MR will do ? he made your favorite star to act brilliantly... wonderful movie..that movie was not successful to the producer .. that was the last good acting and good movie by your favorite star,i have not seen any better movie after that from your star..fans like you made that movie also failure....enna panrathu ippa? Nalla movie koduthalum flop aakkidurenga... Kaasu pottu padam edukira producerkku konjamavathu profit kodukkka venama? Originally Posted by Dilbert
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Atleast entha language-la post panrenagannu sonna puriyarathukku oru muyarchi-aavathu eduppom .. .. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae.. Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster my tamlish is very weak.
At last MR film has come to stage , where people have sell it like vegetable vendor in India.. !
Dilbert, Ungaluku rendu moonu fav actor irrukangala illa Siva is talking abt Thalapathy. Enakku thalapathy box office details romba naala theva paduthu
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From: thamiz on 9th July 2010 06:30 AM [Full View]
இதெல்லாம் ரொம்ப ஓவெருங்க. நீங்க ஒரு ஆளுதான் இந்தப் படத்தை ஆஹா ஓஹோனு புகழுறீங்க. இந்தப் படம் அந்த அளவுக்கு ஒண்ணும் பெருசா இல்லைங்க. Originally Posted by venkkiram
இந்த "பக் பக் பக்" "டண்டனக்கா" மேனெரிஸம், அப்புறம் இன்னொருத்தன் பொண்டாட்டிட்ட இவரு விடுற ஜொள்ளு எல்லாம் படு மட்டமா இருக்கு!
படம் நல்லா இல்லைனு ஆனஸ்ட்டா சொல்றவங்க நெறையப்பேர் இருக்காங்க. அவங்கல எல்லாம் பொய்யர்களாக்குவதெல்லாம்...
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 06:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
EKSI ? Thalapathy Flopa. Sare whatz the kann-ex-tion between that movie and this one i say !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalapathy
If directors like "MR" has to justify his creation to audience, that means either he lost his majek or its time to retire.
Even the great KB went thru similar phase. Its called getting "Old age"
even his health factor could have impacted Ravanan final product!
Justifying a movie which would have been biggest flop of the year ! (survived just bcoz of its star power) as a Blocked buster. Is not rite!.
Even deep down inside his pure heart even pras sir himself knows this.
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From: MADDY on 9th July 2010 07:00 AM [Full View]
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From: Nerd on 9th July 2010 07:18 AM [Full View]
-sari sari naanum edit-udren-
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From: MADDY on 9th July 2010 07:25 AM [Full View]
Nerd, summa comedykku dhaan sonnen - tension aagadhinga
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 07:32 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Nerd, summa comedykku dhaan sonnen - tension aagadhinga
Maddy you too
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From: venkkiram on 9th July 2010 08:00 AM [Full View]
-sari sari sari naanum edit-udren- Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: Nerd on 9th July 2010 08:01 AM [Full View]
ada ippO dhaanE edit panninEn. Anyway, Akshay Kumar irundhuttu poraar
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From: vithagan on 9th July 2010 08:04 AM [Full View]
First of all.. I liked Raavanan and I want to be a Super Hit. Originally Posted by Siv.S
What to do boss? what MR will do ? he made your favorite star to act brilliantly... wonderful movie..that movie was not successful to the producer .. that was the last good acting and good movie by your favorite star,i have not seen any better movie after that from your star..fans like you made that movie also failure....enna panrathu ippa? Nalla movie koduthalum flop aakkidurenga... Kaasu pottu padam edukira producerkku konjamavathu profit kodukkka venama? Originally Posted by Dilbert
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Atleast entha language-la post panrenagannu sonna puriyarathukku oru muyarchi-aavathu eduppom .. .. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae.. Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster my tamlish is very weak.
At last MR film has come to stage , where people have sell it like vegetable vendor in India.. !
Konjam realityku varuvoema.. Its obvious Raavanan is getting mixed reviews, I assume it will be between above average and Hit, blockbuster konjam overa irukku. After adding 'Blockbuster' to the Title, I feel the movie lost its reputation. Namesake blockbuster kondadradhukku vera padangal irukku.. not MR movie please.
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu..
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 09:12 AM [Full View]
padam hit..ippo yaaru enne sonnalum kavalai ille....thrd title podumbodhu..padam heading towards BB dhaan..adhan apdi pottary pras
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From: MADDY on 9th July 2010 10:47 AM [Full View]
Look at the kind of provocation and then its reaction - dont take siv's reaction alone....... Originally Posted by vithagan
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu.. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
Movie deserves bad reviews but not personalised career review of its creators/actors......
Blockbuster or hit or flop - movie has made its statement - i think too much of it is being made out here - esp by people who havent liked da movie
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From: sathya_1979 on 9th July 2010 11:00 AM [Full View]
enna paNNradhu Maddy? Sondha veettula samaikka sarakku illaama pattini irukkaravanga pakkathu veetu saappaadula kal irukkunnu vaitherichal padaradhu sagajamdhaane?
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 11:30 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Look at the kind of provocation and then its reaction - dont take siv's reaction alone....... Originally Posted by vithagan
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu.. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
Movie deserves bad reviews but not personalised career review of its creators/actors......
Blockbuster or hit or flop - movie has made its statement - i think too much of it is being made out here - esp by people who havent liked da movie
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 11:47 AM [Full View]
Dude cut it out ! Don't talk as if you guys are the only ones who are qualified to pass their onions.. ! Originally Posted by MADDY
Look at the kind of provocation and then its reaction - dont take siv's reaction alone....... Originally Posted by vithagan
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu.. Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kadaseela koovee koovee.. ! MR pilim veka vendiya nelamae..
Movie deserves bad reviews but not personalised career review of its creators/actors......
Blockbuster or hit or flop - movie has made its statement - i think too much of it is being made out here - esp by people who havent liked da movie
just bcoz one set of mediocre crowd wants praise the movie for heck of it. Don't expect flower Bouquets from everyone.
Btw who gave you the rites in the forum to write definition of "Bad Review"
eedukku side jalraa vera.. !
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From: Pras on 9th July 2010 11:52 AM [Full View]
etho summa solli 2 pages ottiyachu-thilla ... athaan venum Originally Posted by VinodKumar's
Prasad sorry Prasanna, Originally Posted by Pras
31 good / average -- only 13 bad ...remove from this the 10 people who are against Mani and ARR ... you get only 3 ...
sure shot blockbuster
Yean ippdilam
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From: MADDY on 9th July 2010 12:19 PM [Full View]
Criticism of movie is different and this sort of irreverance(underlined words are personal abuse) is different.........we are welcoming negative reviews for da movie but not a review on our tastes and maniratnam's retirement plans........we cant let such posts go unreplied Originally Posted by Dilbert
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From: Siv.S on 9th July 2010 12:26 PM [Full View]
First of all i didnt say that,i dont call this movie as super duper alll over hit... there are genuine people criticized here.... yaarvathu ethavathu sonnangala? Originally Posted by vithagan
First of all.. I liked Raavanan and I want to be a Super Hit.
Konjam realityku varuvoema.. Its obvious Raavanan is getting mixed reviews, I assume it will be between above average and Hit, blockbuster konjam overa irukku. After adding 'Blockbuster' to the Title, I feel the movie lost its reputation. Namesake blockbuster kondadradhukku vera padangal irukku.. not MR movie please.
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu.. Ivaru muthallla irunthe etho venkayam venkayam-nnu than sollittu irukkar... urupadiya ethuvum sonna mathri theriyala..
yeah i agree that i should not brought Thalapathy...
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From: joe on 9th July 2010 12:28 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
ellam irukkatum .. Now it is clear that Tamil audience gave better response compare to Hindi audience.. what went wrong there?
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 12:31 PM [Full View]
pras Originally Posted by Siv.S
First of all i didnt say that,i dont call this movie as super duper alll over hit... there are genuine people criticized here.... yaarvathu ethavathu sonnangala? Originally Posted by vithagan
First of all.. I liked Raavanan and I want to be a Super Hit.
Konjam realityku varuvoema.. Its obvious Raavanan is getting mixed reviews, I assume it will be between above average and Hit, blockbuster konjam overa irukku. After adding 'Blockbuster' to the Title, I feel the movie lost its reputation. Namesake blockbuster kondadradhukku vera padangal irukku.. not MR movie please.
Raavanan didn't satisy all audience, so it deserves bad critics. Accept panna mudiyalainna vitrunga.. adha vittuttu 20 years munnaadi vandha padatha izhuthu justify panna try panradhu.. Ivaru muthallla irunthe etho venkayam venkayam-nnu than sollittu irukkar... urupadiya ethuvum sonna mathri theriyala..
yeah i agree that i should not brought Thalapathy...
avarode aasaikku BBnnu solraaru....padam hit...thirumbe thirumbe ivange sonnalum velaikku aagadhunnu therinji pochu...so vittudunge
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 12:32 PM [Full View]
abhishek was the prob...padam ange washout Originally Posted by joe
Maddy,
ellam irukkatum .. Now it is clear that Tamil audience gave better response compare to Hindi audience.. what went wrong there?
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From: MADDY on 9th July 2010 12:59 PM [Full View]
yeah dialogues should have been better in hindi anyways (there cant be worse dialaak writers than suhasini mam).......
People of north musnt have found this entertaining - i mean we are used to movies with such pace and narratives not them......abhishek however is the biggest factor i believe for the washout
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 01:02 PM [Full View]
ada pAvigaLA - Abhishek illainA Manirathnam thoughts-ku uyir kudukka koodiya nadigan IndialEyE illainu sollikittirukkAnga(vEra yAru, BPM dhAN) - nInga ipdi cool-A Abishek dhAn kAraNamnu sollittu pOrInga! Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: Pras on 9th July 2010 01:08 PM [Full View]
A PERSONAL LETTER TO PRIYAMANI
Home > Visitor Column
By Behindwoods Visitor the dream
The views expressed in this column are that of the visitor. Behindwoods.com doesn't hold responsible for its content.
The more I look into Raavanan, the movie, the more I admire you for the excellent actor you are Priyamani
To say you were very good as Vennila would be an under statement. Your portrayal as Vennila went beyond my expectation.
We see how much faith the director had in you to have depended on your face and voice, to relate the story of the horrible thing happened to Vennila.
I was struck with an odd feeling when I saw this scene because I think this is the first for our cinema to enact a delicate scene like this, with an unbearable calmness, through the victim and her voice. The director needs to have tremendous confidence in himself and with the actor, you Priyamani. Fantastic.
What is amazing is that the director and the actor came together brilliantly in this scene, to bring out Vennila's pain in a simple narration. But I do not see them. I only see Vennila, who has to repeat what had occurred to her, in spite of the mental and physical pain, she was going through. It really touched my soul Priyamani. Thanks to you, it was educational.
Calmness you emoted, which comes to a person after (a good cry) a devastating trauma and the voice modulation you lend to Vennila for the narration and the body language (movements or lack of it) everything is brilliant. I never thought a scene this delicate can unfold in this manner.
Vennila had to talk about such a sensitive issue out loud, and that too to her brother she respects and loves. She is worried for her brother and for herself also, because she might not be able to handle it, if he gets angry and shouts or goes after them in rage. Brother instead goes into pieces. He was so helpless that he feels the entire world on his shoulders. Director and Veera are amazing here.
Vennila will live in our hearts for a long time to come. Congrats Priyamani and best wishes for all your endeavors in the present and in the future..
the dream
thdream001@gmail.com
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 01:08 PM [Full View]
Actually, the only people to give positive reviews in Hindi - obviously the "Agila Ulaga All time legend Junior Bachchan Rasigar sangam" - seem to imply that the dialogues in Hindi were deliberately non-expository, and infact served the film better in that it kept Beera an undecipherable, unpredictable individual and that was brought out so well by Junior's performance while the dialogues in Tamil explained everything and made it a strait-jacket film, and Vikram also played it very straight without nuancesyeah dialogues should have been better in hindi anyways
According to them, Mani conceived this film only with Abhishek in mind, and the Tamil version was an afterthought, a supplementary version made just because it could be made.
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From: joe on 9th July 2010 01:12 PM [Full View]
இந்தி ராவணன் நிலமையிலிருந்து மணிரத்னம் ஏதாவது உருப்படியான பாடம் கத்துகிட்டா நல்லது . Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Poornima on 9th July 2010 03:02 PM [Full View]
digression. well, not quite.
does the Hub have a policy w.r.t repeated, provocative jabs at the credibility of people (actors, makers, anyone involved in the creation of film, irrespective of their perceived abilities or feats) who don't have a "support base" in the Hub? i mean, is it a blanket No to any such attempt at unforced provocation or does it entirely depend on how the statement could possibly hurt the sentiments of the said person's fans/supporters in the Hub?
is it okay to lampoon T Rajender, for instance, because he isn't backed here while it's not okay to do that with Rajni, who's obviously quite the Big One?
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 03:07 PM [Full View]
While it might be true of few lines here and there, otherwise I find both versions to be exactly same in shot choreography, and tone of performance, etc.. It's Abshiek's fault to not pitch it right. One could easily compare the performances frame-by-frame.. Originally Posted by Plum
Actually, the only people to give positive reviews in Hindi - obviously the "Agila Ulaga All time legend Junior Bachchan Rasigar sangam" - seem to imply that the dialogues in Hindi were deliberately non-expository, and infact served the film better in that it kept Beera an undecipherable, unpredictable individual and that was brought out so well by Junior's performance while the dialogues in Tamil explained everything and made it a strait-jacket film, and Vikram also played it very straight without nuancesyeah dialogues should have been better in hindi anyways
According to them, Mani conceived this film only with Abhishek in mind, and the Tamil version was an afterthought, a supplementary version made just because it could be made.
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 03:08 PM [Full View]
தமிழில் மட்டும் படம் எடுத்தா நல்லா இருக்கும் Originally Posted by joe
இந்தி ராவணன் நிலமையிலிருந்து மணிரத்னம் ஏதாவது உருப்படியான பாடம் கத்துகிட்டா நல்லது . Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 03:09 PM [Full View]
Kid, as you probably can guess, I am not the one saying that.
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 03:11 PM [Full View]
Yes Plum, just pitched in to point out falsity of such claims..Especially as to justify Jr's performance..
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From: Irene Hastings on 9th July 2010 03:18 PM [Full View]
True. There are many guys who have Extra constitutional authority. They can say anything and Moderators will only laugh on those may be because they too have the same feeling Originally Posted by Poornima
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 03:36 PM [Full View]
apdiyA, yaaru indha ECAs-nu sonnIngannu romba vasadhiyA irukkum.
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 03:38 PM [Full View]
nambe sonnadhile edhavudhu thappu irukka?...
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 03:40 PM [Full View]
ada oNNum illa Raghav, Abhishek Bachchan legend-nu sila pEru sonnadhai kindal paNNittoMAm. Yesterday, I made fun of Kamal(12 roles-la Dwaadasi-nu padam eduppArnu) but no Kamal fan got offended. But image ennamO rajni-kamal-ai EdhAvadhu sonnA ingE kadai adaippu nadakkumnu.
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From: Vivasaayi on 9th July 2010 04:55 PM [Full View]
Point 1: Rajni kamal can be lampooned, ofcourse with the decency that hub requires. Originally Posted by Poornima
Point 2: Rajni and kamal are the guys who should have been lampooned the highest number of times in hub
Point 3: The aftermath of lampooning, involves fans of the actors and not Mods. So if noone is fighting for TR, its TR fault of not having fans.
Lampoon...idhellam apdiye varardhuthanla..naanum engayadhu adichi vidren
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From: Srimannarayanan on 9th July 2010 05:08 PM [Full View]
Vikki Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Point 1: Rajni kamal can be lampooned, ofcourse with the decency that hub requires. Originally Posted by Poornima
Point 2: Rajni and kamal are the guys who should have been lampooned the highest number of times in hub
Point 3: The aftermath of lampooning, involves fans of the actors and not Mods. So if noone is fighting for TR, its TR fault of not having fans.
Lampoon...idhellam apdiye varardhuthanla..naanum engayadhu adichi vidren
Neengaluma.?
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From: Vivasaayi on 9th July 2010 05:10 PM [Full View]
sriman purila?!
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From: Srimannarayanan on 9th July 2010 05:15 PM [Full View]
neengalum dictionarya pakka vachitinga. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
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From: Vivasaayi on 9th July 2010 05:16 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
neengalum dictionarya pakka vachitinga. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
aahaa.. that was in poornimas post..I just used that word as it was more appropriate for that context
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From: Pras on 9th July 2010 05:19 PM [Full View]
what is lampoon ? ... enakkum puriyala ..
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From: kalyan on 9th July 2010 05:25 PM [Full View]
Sriman, Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Point 1: Rajni kamal can be lampooned, ofcourse with the decency that hub requires. Originally Posted by Poornima
Point 2: Rajni and kamal are the guys who should have been lampooned the highest number of times in hub
Point 3: The aftermath of lampooning, involves fans of the actors and not Mods. So if noone is fighting for TR, its TR fault of not having fans.
Lampoon...idhellam apdiye varardhuthanla..naanum engayadhu adichi vidren
Viv was referring to the Subramania Raju's reaction to Madhan's usage of the phrase "Catch my point" the dialogue goes like this " Catch...my....point.... sooper ya ....... idhellam apdiye varardhuthanla..naanum engayadhu adichi vidren"
Viv,
I was fully in favour of Poornima's point of view until i read this
soooperPoint 3: The aftermath of lampooning, involves fans of the actors and not Mods. So [if no one is fighting for TR, its TR fault of not having fans.
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 05:42 PM [Full View]
Kalyan, what's with the signature?
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From: kalyan on 9th July 2010 05:56 PM [Full View]
Kid, Originally Posted by kid-glove
Kalyan, what's with the signature?
will PM you
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From: lord_labakudoss on 9th July 2010 05:56 PM [Full View]
On the lines of what Solomon Paappaiya says in Shivaji, along with ARR's bgm: Originally Posted by Poornima
Regarding TR,
"Avaru mudiyai paaruyaa!"<SHWEEEIK>
"Avaru thaadiyai paaruyaa!"<SHWEEEIK>
"Avaru style-ai paaruyaa!"<SHWEEEIK>
"Eppadiyaa lampoon pannaama irukkuradhu!!!"
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From: sathya_1979 on 9th July 2010 06:03 PM [Full View]
lord
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From: P_R on 9th July 2010 06:07 PM [Full View]
Immensely glad to see that the inevitability, indeed the need, to lampoon everything, and thus make it difficult to respecting anything wholeheartedly, is gaining more acceptance as PoV.
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 06:25 PM [Full View]
ippO Ravanan paththi pEsalaamaa?
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 06:27 PM [Full View]
Raavanan has become the top 10 BO movie in Malaysia.
Till last weekend, had collected $861,685 or more than 4 crores!
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From: Pras on 9th July 2010 06:37 PM [Full View]
it is at the 10th place ?? Originally Posted by NOV
Raavanan has become the top 10 BO movie in Malaysia.
Till last weekend, had collected $861,685 or more than 4 crores!
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
yes, displacing VA Originally Posted by Pras
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From: Pras on 9th July 2010 06:47 PM [Full View]
youhouhou Originally Posted by NOV
yes, displacing VA Originally Posted by Pras
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 06:50 PM [Full View]
In contrast Raavan has just collected $52,193 Originally Posted by NOV
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From: rangan_08 on 9th July 2010 06:56 PM [Full View]
TM, Plum, Ajaybaskar, joe & jaiganes, just now saw your posts. Thanks guys.
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From: raghavendran on 9th July 2010 06:56 PM [Full View]
flopunnu solla solla padam innum nalla odudhu...so padam flopunne sollalam Originally Posted by NOV
Raavanan has become the top 10 BO movie in Malaysia.
Till last weekend, had collected $861,685 or more than 4 crores!
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 09:09 PM [Full View]
It was criticism against the creator's creativity period.(just like when your fav cricketer is not performing well, we demand for retirement!) I said it in the same zpirit ,If you can't understand the difference between sympathizing statement and personal abuse. Originally Posted by MADDY
Criticism of movie is different and this sort of irreverance(underlined words are personal abuse) is different.........we are welcoming negative reviews for da movie but not a review on our tastes and maniratnam's retirement plans........we cant let such posts go unreplied Originally Posted by Dilbert
let me not waste percious time of yours explaning it !
Unfortunately, no one is looking forward for "the so called welcoming gesture" It was my onion I said it ! Freeya vendungea.. !
Don't worry there will be bigger flop than this in next 4months
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 09:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raghavendran
flopunnu solla solla padam innum nalla odudhu...so padam flopunne sollalam Originally Posted by Dilbert
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 09:15 PM [Full View]
Naanum sirichEn. Originally Posted by rangan_08
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From: Avadi to America on 9th July 2010 09:16 PM [Full View]
ithai naan vanmayaga kandikiren Originally Posted by Dilbert
It was criticism against the creator's creativity period.(just like when your fav cricketer is not performing well, we demand for retirement!) I said it in the same zpirit ,If you can't understand the difference between sympathizing statement and personal abuse. Originally Posted by MADDY
Criticism of movie is different and this sort of irreverance(underlined words are personal abuse) is different.........we are welcoming negative reviews for da movie but not a review on our tastes and maniratnam's retirement plans........we cant let such posts go unreplied Originally Posted by Dilbert
let me not waste percious time of yours explaning it !
Unfortunately, no one is looking forward for "the so called welcoming gesture" It was my onion I said it ! Freeya vendungea.. !
Don't worry there will be bigger flop than this in next 4months
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 09:18 PM [Full View]
CorrectA sollunga - nInga Bodyguard remake dhAnE mean paNNinga?Don't worry there will be bigger flop than this in next 4months
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From: NOV on 9th July 2010 09:18 PM [Full View]
Please dont start all over again!
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From: Movie Cop on 9th July 2010 09:22 PM [Full View]
I do agree, in Raavan, he was way below par or appeared incompetent as Beera. To Abhishek's credit, he did appeared to get better towards the end of the movie (from & post priyamani phase). May be I already got warmed up to Abhishek by then OR may be he got warmed up to his character - I don't know.
I think it's the spirited performance from the supporting characters who really saved "Raavan" or at least for me. In particular, Ravi Kishan (his face looked familar to me, though I don't recall seeing any of his movies) & Govinda were briiliant!
Might watch Raavan again sometime, when things slow down a bit at home and work.
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 09:24 PM [Full View]
Did you see Welcome to Sajjanpur?Ravi Kishan (his face looked familar to me, though I don't recall seeing any of his movies)
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 09:28 PM [Full View]
Agree re.Kishan. I have seen Welcome to Sajjanpur, he's much different here. And I got a copy of 1971 that I wanted to watch for Bajpai. But will also now look out for Kishan! And I heard he's great in bhojpuri films.
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From: Plum on 9th July 2010 09:30 PM [Full View]
Looks like Regional Cinema does prepare you for excellence. The South Mumbai dudes are proving just good enough for that - Saif in Omkara notwithstanding - play South Mumbai dudes in Karan Johar films.
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From: Movie Cop on 9th July 2010 10:19 PM [Full View]
Oh no! I haven't even heard of this movie. Originally Posted by Plum
Is the movie good? If yes, will check out sometime.
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From: Movie Cop on 9th July 2010 10:23 PM [Full View]
I don't know who to blame with casting. Abhishek should have played Dev and Hrithik (wearing helmet for protection) should have played Raavan. And the title should have been "Ashokavan" so as Abhishek doesn't think it's Hrithik's film.
On a ideal world, how I would have wished to see Irfan Khan as Dev and "young" Nana Patekar as Raavan.
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From: Vivasaayi on 9th July 2010 10:29 PM [Full View]
Mohan lal as ravan ... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 10:43 PM [Full View]
Ideal raavan (and almost any role for that matter) is of course NT. Lal is a great suggestion, Vivs..
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From: Dilbert on 9th July 2010 10:48 PM [Full View]
Nope ! its was a general statement. Originally Posted by Plum
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From: app_engine on 9th July 2010 10:51 PM [Full View]
dig Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Mohan lal as ravan ... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
There's a Mammootty movie 'azhagiya rAvaNan', don't know the story, but it has that great 'veNNilA chandhanakkiNNam' number by Vidyasagar, somewhat an inspiration of 'chinna chinna Asai')
end-dig
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From: m_karthik on 9th July 2010 10:54 PM [Full View]
Oh.. then ella padamum flop aagumnu solreengala? Originally Posted by Dilbert
Nope ! its was a general statement. Originally Posted by Plum
Is it only in Tamil..or also in other languages and in hollywood too?
Ippadi oru kannotathula ellorum padam partha...ellamae flop thaan aagum
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From: kalyan on 9th July 2010 11:41 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Mohan lal as ravan ... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
Not in this birth. Mohanlal had never been lean and mean at any point of his career. we dont expect a 100 kg Prabhu and a 90 kg Mohanlal playing fugitives on the run in a rainforest, climbing rocks and trees, and sustaining oneself on roots, tubers and wild game neither of them can run for 50 meters on level ground to save their own life, leave alone climbing rocks
the only south indian star who could have done justice to the role is Kamal Haasan, especially in his Marudhanayakam get up. his eyes can convey his inner intensity effortlessly. also he would never have done those annoying bak bak bak sequences.
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From: kid-glove on 9th July 2010 11:48 PM [Full View]
have you seen kala paani? lol::
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From: app_engine on 9th July 2010 11:48 PM [Full View]
http://www.sivajitv.com/news/raavan-...hwarya-rai.htm
A very rare kind of opinion in this gossip:
மேலும், இந்தியில் ராவண் கேரக்டரில் அபிஷேக்பச்சனை நடிக்க வைத்தது தவறு என்றும் விமர்சிக்கப்படுகிறது. விக்ரம், ஐஸ்வர்யா ராயை கணவன், மனைவியாகவும் ஐஸ்வர்யாவை கடத்திப்போய் காட்டில் வைத்து சித்ரவதை செய்யும் வில்லனாக அபிஷேக் பச்சனையும் நடிக்க வைத்துள்ளனர்.
நிஜ வாழ்வில் கணவன், மனைவியானவர்களை திரையில் வேறு மாதிரி காட்டியது ரசிகர்களை ஈர்க்காமல் போய் விட்டது. இதுவே தோல்விக்கு காரணம், என்றும் கூறுகின்றனர்.
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From: Vivasaayi on 9th July 2010 11:58 PM [Full View]
ofcourse kamal would suit the role...and I deny that he would have never done that bak bak bak. If he had done that - it would sound convincing. Originally Posted by kalyan
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Mohan lal as ravan ... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
Not in this birth. Mohanlal had never been lean and mean at any point of his career. we dont expect a 100 kg Prabhu and a 90 kg Mohanlal playing fugitives on the run in a rainforest, climbing rocks and trees, and sustaining oneself on roots, tubers and wild game neither of them can run for 50 meters on level ground to save their own life, leave alone climbing rocks
the only south indian star who could have done justice to the role is Kamal Haasan, especially in his Marudhanayakam get up. his eyes can convey his inner intensity effortlessly. also he would never have done those annoying bak bak bak sequences.
Ravan need not be slim right?
Mohan lal - because the charecter undergoes lots of pain inside. Moahn lal's eyes came to my mind
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From: Pras on 10th July 2010 12:19 AM [Full View]
Vivasaayi, you are correct ... Kamal, Mohanlal would have done justice to this role !! ... and the third one is VIKRAM !! ... don't say that raavanan is bad or something because of vikram Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
ofcourse kamal would suit the role...and I deny that he would have never done that bak bak bak. If he had done that - it would sound convincing. Originally Posted by kalyan
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Mohan lal as ravan ... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
Not in this birth. Mohanlal had never been lean and mean at any point of his career. we dont expect a 100 kg Prabhu and a 90 kg Mohanlal playing fugitives on the run in a rainforest, climbing rocks and trees, and sustaining oneself on roots, tubers and wild game neither of them can run for 50 meters on level ground to save their own life, leave alone climbing rocks
the only south indian star who could have done justice to the role is Kamal Haasan, especially in his Marudhanayakam get up. his eyes can convey his inner intensity effortlessly. also he would never have done those annoying bak bak bak sequences.
Ravan need not be slim right?
Mohan lal - because the charecter undergoes lots of pain inside. Moahn lal's eyes came to my mind
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From: kalyan on 10th July 2010 12:20 AM [Full View]
Raavan need not be slim, but anyone surviving in a tropical rainforest, fighting the police force, should be Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Ravan need not be slim right?
Mohan lal - because the charecter undergoes lots of pain inside. Moahn lal's eyes came to my mind
and i expect Raavan to be eternally alert, vigilant and quick to react. Sorry to say, Mohanlal is a little laidback, has a detached look and hardly fulfills these criteria.
Once again i say, i dont take away the credit off Mohanlal, an actor par excellence. My only take is that he may not have suited this particular role.
Anyway, its just my opinion. We can agree to disagree
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From: Pras on 10th July 2010 01:50 AM [Full View]
mohanlal opinion .. ok ... what about vikram ? Originally Posted by kalyan
Raavan need not be slim, but anyone surviving in a tropical rainforest, fighting the police force, should be Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Ravan need not be slim right?
Mohan lal - because the charecter undergoes lots of pain inside. Moahn lal's eyes came to my mind
and i expect Raavan to be eternally alert, vigilant and quick to react. Sorry to say, Mohanlal is a little laidback, has a detached look and hardly fulfills these criteria.
Once again i say, i dont take away the credit off Mohanlal, an actor par excellence. My only take is that he may not have suited this particular role.
Anyway, its just my opinion. We can agree to disagree
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From: jaiganes on 10th July 2010 02:55 AM [Full View]
dei paaveee!!! Originally Posted by kid-glove
Naanum sirichEn. Originally Posted by rangan_08
pasist.
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From: kid-glove on 10th July 2010 03:43 AM [Full View]
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From: NOV on 10th July 2010 11:29 AM [Full View]
Raavanan still playing in 21 cinemas in Malaysia.
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From: Siv.S on 10th July 2010 11:42 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
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From: A.ANAND on 10th July 2010 12:17 PM [Full View]
athu!thanks NOV sir Originally Posted by NOV
Raavanan has become the top 10 BO movie in Malaysia.
Till last weekend, had collected $861,685 or more than 4 crores!
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From: kalyan on 10th July 2010 12:43 PM [Full View]
yeah, frankly speaking, acting wise, Vikram has done a good job. Originally Posted by Pras
mohanlal opinion .. ok ... what about vikram ?
if the dialogues were kiddish and sometimes unintentionally funny, and if the screenplay wasnt taut - sometimes illogical to the extent of bordering insanity, Vikram can do nothing about it, especially if Mani is the one wielding the megaphone.
and if all those over the top sequences were performed at the insistence of the director, Vikram need not take the blame for that.
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From: venkkiram on 10th July 2010 03:42 PM [Full View]
நான் வருவேன் பாடல்! தரம் நன்றாக இருக்கிறது! படத்தை இன்னும் பார்க்காதவர்கள் இந்த வீடியோ பாடலை தவிர்க்கவும்!
நான் வருவேன்
மீண்டும் வருவேன்..
உன்னை தொடர்வேன்..
உயிரால் தொடுவேன்!
ஒரு பிள்ளை எழுதும் கிறுக்கல் தான் வாழ்க்கையோ ?
அதில் அர்த்தம் தேடி அலைவதே வேட்கையோ?
அர்த்தம் புரியும் போது வாழ்வு மாறுது
வாழ்வு கழியும் போது அர்த்தம் கொஞ்சம் மாறுது
அழுது கொண்டு பூமி வந்தோம்
சிரித்து கொண்டே வானம் போவோம்
விக்ரமின் நடிப்பில் பிரமிப்பது என்னவென்றால், புதுசு புதுசாக முயற்சி செய்வதுதான். கடைசி தருணங்களிலும் கூட , முகத்தில் எந்த அளவுக்கு அவரால் உணர்ச்சிகளை தர முடியுமோ அதை தந்துவிட்டு செல்கிறார்.
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From: rangan_08 on 10th July 2010 06:44 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Naanum sirichEn. Originally Posted by rangan_08
thanks.
clockwork oranje delight
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From: Siv.S on 10th July 2010 09:59 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by venkkiram
ஒரு கனவு காற்றில் மிதக்குதே
அது மிதந்து கொண்டு சிரிக்குதே
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From: app_engine on 11th July 2010 10:25 AM [Full View]
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 10:34 AM [Full View]
Thank you Venkki! Originally Posted by venkkiram
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From: kalyan on 11th July 2010 10:48 AM [Full View]
I completely agree with the author of the article. In fact, two of his greatest works were in the first quarter of his career (Mauna Ragam & Nayakan). Roja was very good, but not exceptional. Iruvar......, may be. Bombay was nauseating with its preachy and self righteous attitude. Originally Posted by app_engine
Post millennium, Mani has just become self obsessed. Of his four movies, only one (KM) was good, one was good in bits and pieces (Guru) and the other two were frankly bad (Yuva and Raavan)
I picked this from the comments section of the abovementioned article.
///i find it funny to hear ppl say only clever ppl can understand the beauty of mani's movie...sounds more like the case of the emperors clothes...only the clever ppl can see the clothes...it took a little kid to point out the obvious...the movie has nothing going for it other than the cinematography..///
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 10:50 AM [Full View]
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From: Plum on 11th July 2010 10:52 AM [Full View]
The article offers nothing useful except recapping Mani's career and making an unsubstantiated statement that he has lost his touch. Well, at the least, even if I dont agree, I expect you to throw some light from your perspective on the subject for me to take it seriously. There may or may not be a justifiable case that Mani is losing it but this article surely isn't that.
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 10:53 AM [Full View]
Mani kku munnaadi retirementkku pala pEr irukkaangaLe (stereo type movies, formula ONLY movies.....)? avangaLukku advise yaen yaarum seiyyala?
agenda driven journalism at it's best, nadathunga!
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 10:55 AM [Full View]
<<Dig: Plum, did u read my reply for ur PM? :End Dig>>
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From: Plum on 11th July 2010 10:58 AM [Full View]
Afterall oru public forumla, oru hubber KS Ravikumar padam Kamal paNNA kUdadhu(Not even that KSR should retire)-nu sonnA evLO pErukku erichal varudhu? Mani-kku mattum free advice paNNalAm pOlirukku(I am sure same people wont mind this!) Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Mani kku munnaadi retirementkku pala pEr irukkaangaLe (stereo type movies, formula ONLY movies.....)? avangaLukku advise yaen yaarum seiyyala?
agenda driven journalism at it's best, nadathunga!
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 11:00 AM [Full View]
naan generalaa sonnen, yaarayum kurippittu sollala! (Ippadi sollalennaa, sila pala ellaam therinja Ekaambarams vandhu free advise pannaunvaanunga, thEvayaa enakku?)
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From: kalyan on 11th July 2010 11:03 AM [Full View]
Plum, Originally Posted by Plum
you have got your opinions and i have got mine. you express them in a public forum and so do I. Neither you nor I need to make sure that the other readers have to agree to our PoV. It is perfectly fine with me if you hold a different opinion, and I dont find any reason to convince you otherwise
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 11:03 AM [Full View]
Plum ji, "Sila pErukku avangaLukku pudicha aaLungaLa paththi UNMAI sonna kOvam varum, aanaa avanga maththavangaLa paththi enna veNumnaalum pEsuvaanga. Reply senjaa counter-views are not welcome nu oru salippu".
This is again not directed at anyone, but a general habit in public forums (Not copyrighted to hub).
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From: kalyan on 11th July 2010 11:11 AM [Full View]
counter views are definitely welcome, it is just that i want this forum to be a place where everyone can express their opinion. But I am not trying to make sure that the whole world sees things the way I do, hence i dont find the need to actively convince anybody. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
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From: sathya_1979 on 11th July 2010 11:14 AM [Full View]
kalyan, my post was not intended at you Originally Posted by kalyan
counter views are definitely welcome, it is just that i want this forum to be a place where everyone can express their opinion. But I am not trying to make sure that the whole world sees things the way I do, hence i dont find the need to actively convince anybody. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
I agree that views and counter views should be welcome, else there is no need for forums like this. But, usage of unnecessary language, provocation, wind-ups etc are the ones which should be avoided.
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From: Pras on 11th July 2010 10:33 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
No more screening for Ravanan in UK, the last screening is on the 8th of Juy!
I have seen today some advertisement (on kalagnar tv) for raavanan shows in london for next week (until 20th of july then) ...
eppadiyavathu false news koduthu, intha hub-la raavanan-a flop aakidalaam-nu muyarchiyo ??
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From: cepark on 11th July 2010 11:21 PM [Full View]
hmmm appadi thaan vitturaathengaa... Originally Posted by Pras
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
No more screening for Ravanan in UK, the last screening is on the 8th of Juy!
I have seen today some advertisement (on kalagnar tv) for raavanan shows in london for next week (until 20th of july then) ...
eppadiyavathu false news koduthu, intha hub-la raavanan-a flop aakidalaam-nu muyarchiyo ?? ithu paramu bro kku.
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From: Pras on 11th July 2010 11:57 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by venkkiram
thank you for the link ... tried to find the hindi version Jaa re Ud jaare ... but was unable to find it on the net .. video i mean, just to see the difference between vikram and Abhi's expressions
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From: MADDY on 12th July 2010 06:58 AM [Full View]
Reg Amitabh's dig at mani sir that ravan character couldnt be brought out well due to poor editing - beera song beautifully puts the entire characterisation .........behne de extracts the entire zip file of ravan's heart - Gulzaar ...........i feel, i have to catch the hindi version somehow
surely manis' miscalculation that people would understand such 'express-detailed' movie........and its not that thilak/others who have cracked the narration style are imagining - things are there for everyone to see........
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From: Anban on 12th July 2010 07:37 AM [Full View]
cracked the narration .. ::shiva-shiva::
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 08:58 AM [Full View]
welcome change anban Originally Posted by Anban
::shiva-shiva:: எப்ப இருந்து இதெல்லாம்?
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From: Anban on 12th July 2010 09:36 AM [Full View]
ithellaam enge thaathaa kodukkura reactions.. but raavanan screenplay ellaam crack/decode/subtle -ngra words-kku appaaarpattathu.. manasu thaangaama kothichuruchu.. Originally Posted by kalyan
welcome change anban Originally Posted by Anban
::shiva-shiva:: எப்ப இருந்து இதெல்லாம்?
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 10:03 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Anban
ithellaam enge thaathaa kodukkura reactions.. but raavanan screenplay ellaam crack/decode/subtle -ngra words-kku appaaarpattathu.. manasu thaangaama kothichuruchu..[/b] Originally Posted by kalyan
welcome change anban Originally Posted by Anban
::shiva-shiva:: எப்ப இருந்து இதெல்லாம்? yeah, mani has been sufficiently loud in all his ventures, and too loud a few times
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From: MADDY on 12th July 2010 07:15 PM [Full View]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRwLXsQo_30
raavanan climax - poetry of highest order..........music, cinematography, art design, title credits........a director like gautam menon* can make a 2.5 hrs movie on the content of this song......
*not in derogatory sense to GVM but just wanted to say how much compression can mani bring in.....
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th July 2010 07:25 PM [Full View]
Dig >>
Madrasa Pattanam, is a much better film than ravanan , and had a better opening in UK than the much 'hyped' ravanan !
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 08:00 PM [Full View]
maddy, Originally Posted by MADDY
i resisted posting this for quite sometime. but references to this clip again and again makes me curious. what is so special about a guy, who was at least 30 feet away from a cliff's edge suddenly falling into a valley (!!!!) after being shot, that too managing to bend his body and keep his head high when actually fell on his head? over that I am hearing appreciations for those myriad of expressions he gives when he is falling into the valley
and what is so special about this song too? neither the music nor the lyrics are anywhere extraordinary.
am I missing something?
and one more query i had resisted posting. I am asking you since I was one of the unfortunate guys who was unable to 'crack' mani's screenplay. If Veera is angry with hemantkumar for raping his sister, he should have kidnapped / killed Hemant's sister / wife right? how is he justified in kidnapping/attempting to kill somebody else's wife?
during the course of the movie, Veera takes his revenge on Hemantkumar by physically attacking and psychologically humiliating him. since he has settled the scores with hemant, how is he justified in keeping Raagini with him any longer?
and one more thing. hemantkumar and Dev arrive with police force to arrest him during his sister's wedding implying that he was already on the wanted list for a list of crimes. so his playing of an 'innocent victim' to police atrocities hold no water.
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From: Mahen on 12th July 2010 08:04 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Climax was shot in typical Mani's style...Blood splatter all over Aish's face/bullets pounding into Vikram - all shot in slo mo to show the intensity
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th July 2010 08:06 PM [Full View]
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From: MADDY on 12th July 2010 08:21 PM [Full View]
its like romanticisation of death........the slow moving visuals - the delay of inevitable - with hands and heart stretched out to raagini, the departing soul which is leaving this world unsatisfied with the desire of living with raagini...........the real veeran, he is, who had given life to dev, bends his back and his head held high till he falls.........the harmonium notes puts us through a melancholic mood - and the pallavi being repeated with piano bits - it leaves us with scattered image of things - which is what mani always tries.... Originally Posted by kalyan
maddy,
i resisted posting this for quite sometime. but references to this clip again and again makes me curious. what is so special about a guy, who was at least 30 feet away from a cliff's edge suddenly falling into a valley (!!!!) after being shot, that too managing to bend his body and keep his head high when actually fell on his head? over that I am hearing appreciations for those myriad of expressions he gives when he is falling into the valley and what is so special about this song too? neither the music nor the lyrics are anywhere extraordinary. am I missing something?
love and divine can only be experienced not explained, so is ARR's music
if only can everyone have balance of mind and sense of things when govt. authorities are confiscating ur land, rape ur sister, suppressed ur clan and send them to forests - veera could have had sense..... Originally Posted by kalyan
every criminal has his own version of things to tell - he feels he is justified in reacting back to "atrocities" committed upon him - its natural.......ah, it would have been a boring drab if ravan was painted all black or white...... Originally Posted by kalyan
i know this a new attempt by mani to downsize the flabs with lot of ambiguities - even im not convinced with its execution.......but since i know where mani comes from, i empathise with this effort.....
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 08:28 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
thanks for the patient reply. I was enlightened even though i may not fully agree to your PoV. Thanks for taking the time to explain, especially when you are within few days of getting married.
wish you a very happy married life too
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From: MADDY on 12th July 2010 08:34 PM [Full View]
patience is a virtue, more so when u r married - says my friend Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
thanks for the patient reply. I was enlightened even though i may not fully agree to your PoV. Thanks for taking the time to explain, especially when you are within few days of getting married.
wish you a very happy married life too
//thnx for the wishes //
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 08:47 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
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From: venkkiram on 12th July 2010 08:51 PM [Full View]
இது செல்வராகவன் படமல்ல.. Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 09:02 PM [Full View]
பின்னெ என்ன? அடுத்தவன் பொண்டாட்டி மேல ஆசைப்படுரதுக்கு பேரு தெய்வீக காதலா? Originally Posted by venkkiram
இது செல்வராகவன் படமல்ல.. Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
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From: venkkiram on 12th July 2010 09:08 PM [Full View]
ஏன் காதலா இருக்கக் கூடாதா? Originally Posted by kalyan
பின்னெ என்ன? அடுத்தவன் பொண்டாட்டி மேல ஆசைப்படுரதுக்கு பேரு தெய்வீக காதலா? Originally Posted by venkkiram
இது செல்வராகவன் படமல்ல.. Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 09:15 PM [Full View]
அடுத்தவன் பொண்டாட்டி மேல வர்ற காதலுக்கு அவனுக்கு கிடைக்கிற தண்டனை சரிதான். that in no way makes me sympathise for the character's death. Originally Posted by venkkiram
ஏன் காதலா இருக்கக் கூடாதா? Originally Posted by kalyan
பின்னெ என்ன? அடுத்தவன் பொண்டாட்டி மேல ஆசைப்படுரதுக்கு பேரு தெய்வீக காதலா? Originally Posted by venkkiram
இது செல்வராகவன் படமல்ல.. Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
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From: thamiz on 12th July 2010 09:26 PM [Full View]
Loving a married woman who is perfectly all right with her husband?? Originally Posted by venkkiram
ஏன் காதலா இருக்கக் கூடாதா? Originally Posted by kalyan
பின்னெ என்ன? அடுத்தவன் பொண்டாட்டி மேல ஆசைப்படுரதுக்கு பேரு தெய்வீக காதலா? Originally Posted by venkkiram
இது செல்வராகவன் படமல்ல.. Originally Posted by kalyan
Maddy,
i would still say, despite settling scores with the humiliation of hemantkumar, Veera continues to retain Raagini, that itself is ample proof that lust has taken over the sense of revenge. and from thereon, whtever the character does, including giving 'uyirpichchai' to Dev, doesnt make the audience like me to empathise with the character
And that too you kidnapped her for taking a "revenge" for your innocent sister??
Yeah love. but a CHEAP love, may be!
The problem is that this particular love is not natural and the way he (manirathnam) makes a "Dev" like an animal or something is not "buyable" either.
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From: subash43 on 12th July 2010 10:07 PM [Full View]
Ranking based on Chennai Box Office Collections from
July 09th 2010 to July 11th 2010
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Priyamani, Prithviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Munna, Ranjitha.
Direction: Mani Ratnam
Music: A R Rahman
Production: Madras Talkies
Review
Trailer
Gallery
Drawing references from the mythological epic, Mani tries to create a modern day Ramayana but kind of falls short since the screenplay lacks the required soul and the characters, definition.
Trade Talk:
Urban centers are reporting brisk business, especially over weekends. Mani’s name seems to be carrying the movie forward.
Public Talk:
Mani needs an air-tight screenplay if he wants to hold even his fans’ attention. Not just beautiful frames!
No. Weeks Completed: 3
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 112
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 61%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 17,92,474
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.68 Crore
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-raavanan.html
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From: Anban on 12th July 2010 11:03 PM [Full View]
I think raavanan escaped in chennai city atleast
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From: thamiz on 12th July 2010 11:06 PM [Full View]
Unfortunately, Yes! Originally Posted by Anban
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 11:20 PM [Full View]
I just realised Mani has given only 1 hit in Tamil in the last 15 years (after Bombay) Originally Posted by thamiz
Unfortunately, Yes! Originally Posted by Anban
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From: thamiz on 12th July 2010 11:23 PM [Full View]
And which one is that? alaipaaythE?
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From: kalyan on 12th July 2010 11:25 PM [Full View]
Yes Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: Sanjeevi on 12th July 2010 11:28 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thamiz
Unfortunately, Yes! Originally Posted by Anban
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From: vijayr on 13th July 2010 01:53 AM [Full View]
There is a scene near the broken statue where Vikram says something about jealousy ultimately making him bigger than everybody else. I missed the end of it. what was he trying to convey there? The scene starts off with Vikram confessing his jealousy for Ash and her hubby. Then he talks about him being just a villager, an outsider and ends up saying this. Does he mean to say the poor-rich jealousy drove him to be some sort of a Naxalite, above all relationships and such? If so, why should he be jealous of Ash and her hubby, which is a different kind of jealousy?
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From: kalyan on 13th July 2010 02:33 AM [Full View]
Veera feels that God had been unfair to him by not making him meet Raagini when she was not yet married so that he could have got chance to impress her and win her hand. I honestly dont know bsed on which criteria he considers himself better qualified than Dev to win the hands of Raagini (Azhagu, padippu, andhasthu and so on) Originally Posted by vijayr
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From: MADDY on 13th July 2010 10:41 AM [Full View]
vijay sir, veera says he is a poor man, no education, not "fair" looking, not educated and not sophisticated like Dev..........thats y he is jealous of dev and his "winning over of raagini's heart".......but strangely this jealousy sort of plateus these differences and makes veera feel equal competitor to dev Originally Posted by vijayr
Jealousy of ravan/veera is the sole criteria for him thinking he is better than dev..........there is very less empathy from narration/mani to Veera on this point (i mean he loving raagini).......mani never justifies veeras abduction of raagini.......he is a naxal getting off the track from his mission due to his romance with someone else's wife - ex: his own brother revolts against him......
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From: MADDY on 13th July 2010 10:42 AM [Full View]
wow, thamizh and Anban join hands atlast Originally Posted by thamiz
Unfortunately, Yes! Originally Posted by Anban
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From: 19thmay on 13th July 2010 10:54 AM [Full View]
//Digression
Sudhir - Thaali katra varaikum hub-la post pannuveenga pola
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From: MADDY on 13th July 2010 11:05 AM [Full View]
//kadamai, ganniyam, kattupaadu Originally Posted by 19thmay
//Digression
Sudhir - Thaali katra varaikum hub-la post pannuveenga pola //
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From: Siv.S on 13th July 2010 11:07 AM [Full View]
//Today should be the last day Originally Posted by MADDY
//kadamai, ganniyam, kattupaadu Originally Posted by 19thmay
//Digression
Sudhir - Thaali katra varaikum hub-la post pannuveenga pola // you should take break from hub for some days.... dont waste your energy here //
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From: raghavendran on 13th July 2010 12:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
//Today should be the last day Originally Posted by MADDY
//kadamai, ganniyam, kattupaadu Originally Posted by 19thmay
//Digression
Sudhir - Thaali katra varaikum hub-la post pannuveenga pola // you should take break from hub for some days.... dont waste your energy here //
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 13th July 2010 12:07 PM [Full View]
Muhurtha nerathula yaarum IR-ARR, etc etc madhiri panchayatha aarambichiraadheenga, vaazhkai prachanai!
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From: raghavendran on 13th July 2010 12:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
..arr pathiye pechu edukka kudadhu..ille pattu kekrennnu ezhundhu povaru
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From: Siv.S on 13th July 2010 12:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Naadhas kitta nee VTV Anbil-avan tune-lathan vaasikkanumnnu adam pidikka koodathu,Maddy
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 13th July 2010 12:15 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
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From: A.ANAND on 13th July 2010 12:50 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Siv.S
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Naadhas kitta nee VTV Anbil-avan tune-lathan vaasikkanumnnu adam pidikka koodathu,Maddy appa shanthi muhurtthathukku enna song??s.j.suryas 'thaluyuthu naluvutha'? [athu arr song]just kidding!
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From: Pras on 13th July 2010 01:03 PM [Full View]
no no ... intha thread-ku maddy-in sevai thevai !! Originally Posted by Siv.S
//Today should be the last day Originally Posted by MADDY
//kadamai, ganniyam, kattupaadu Originally Posted by 19thmay
//Digression
Sudhir - Thaali katra varaikum hub-la post pannuveenga pola // you should take break from hub for some days.... dont waste your energy here //
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From: Pras on 13th July 2010 01:05 PM [Full View]
Rs.4.68 Crore in three weeks Originally Posted by subash43
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From: raghavendran on 13th July 2010 04:52 PM [Full View]
cbo
Raavanan
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Pritviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Priya Mani
Director: Mani Ratnam
Camera, Locations, Vikram
Story, Screenplay, dialogues
Trade Facts : Above Average
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From: vijayr on 13th July 2010 08:47 PM [Full View]
Maddy, that is quite a complex explanation, thanks. That was not a straightforward piece of dialogue to follow and on top of it I missed it partly because of constant audience hooting near my seat. Jealously actually making him feel superior? How did Suhasini come up with this? Originally Posted by MADDY
He also shouts after that "aana indha pisaasu, innikku amma appa kaadhal ellathukkum mela.." I was a little confused as to why he would consider himself superior(and not on par) with everyone else
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From: vithagan on 15th July 2010 11:21 PM [Full View]
Reduced to one screen at Sathyam cinemas
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From: vithagan on 19th July 2010 09:36 PM [Full View]
Paiya
No. Weeks Completed: 5
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 30
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 50%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 2,85,747
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.97 Crore
Verdict: Hit
Raavanan
No. Weeks Completed: 4
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 62
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 56%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 8,51,572
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.94 Crore
Verdict: Average
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From: gurusaravanan on 19th July 2010 11:28 PM [Full View]
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From: Anban on 19th July 2010 11:43 PM [Full View]
Return on Investment... Originally Posted by vithagan
Paiya
No. Weeks Completed: 5
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 30
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 50%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 2,85,747
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.97 Crore
Verdict: Hit
Raavanan
No. Weeks Completed: 4
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 62
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 56%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 8,51,572
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.4.94 Crore
Verdict: Average
do learn what it means..
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From: vithagan on 19th July 2010 11:57 PM [Full View]
OK ! Originally Posted by Anban
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From: NOV on 21st July 2010 08:10 AM [Full View]
Raavanan has earned over 6.9 crores in Malaysia.
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From: A.ANAND on 21st July 2010 08:31 AM [Full View]
wooooooooooow! Originally Posted by NOV
Raavanan has earned over 6.9 crores in Malaysia.
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From: SoftSword on 26th July 2010 07:22 AM [Full View]
watched the movie... vera vazhi illaama onlinela... but nalla print...
very fast movie with fast editing... continuity engayum miss aana madhiri therila... it was all flowing smoothly...
liked it with some disappointments...
vikram's show all the way... climaxla sp plan purinjadhum kaatra emotions mattumae podhum... poondhu vilayaandrukkaar.. many scenes i remembered sethu... some of the mannerisms...
some mannerisms and body languages looked like Sivaji's... katthi azhara scenela konjam Kamal... and one particular face reaction in the kodu poatta song was exactly like Superstar...
prithvi did the tough cop role well... neraya negatives vechirukanga characterla... vennilaa rape episode sp'ku theriyaadhunu solradhellam summa... he knows and moreover veeras audio cassette reiterates that incident to sp and by all means he is aware of it... but nothing was shown to convey how he reacted to it...
adhae madhiri gnanaprakaasam chakkarai vandhirukkarnu solrappo sp's reactions were clear that he is gonna shoot him... but the forester did not show any sign to stop him or understand his intentions... and chakkaraiya shoot panra sattham kandippa avarukku kaetrukkum... thaan samaadhanama poidalaamnu convince panni kootti vandha aala suttukonnadhu therinjadhukku apramum kalaila jollya ukkandhu pallu thechchuttu irukkar... andha sequence nallaa handle pannirukkalaam...
aish... nalinamaa dance addraanga... mala uchchila irundhu gudhikkiradhu.. malai eruradhunu konjam kastapatrukkanga... nadippu ok dhaan.... because of the bad dubbing... avanga pesarappo ellaam dubbing padam feel...
prabhu and karthik too did well but neraya mokkai...
most of the scenes, the understanding of the situation was completely backed up by the songs...
veeraa song introduces veera... andha songa extend panni avanga gangoda actions and violence kaattikkalaamnu thonuchu...
usure pogudhu song elaborates abt vikram falling for aish, though the first thing which impresses in ragini for veera was her dhairiyam... but i felt that the song came a bit early...
kalvarae song was basically to elaborate on dev and ragini relationship and their life and chemistry... very sensual...
kodupoatta song spoke abt why those people turned violent and what were all their problems... sema energy andha paattula... mirattal...
kedaakkari is choreographed awesomely... sema locations... but andha vadanaattu fortla shoot pannadhu ellaam MR taking taking us for granted.... andha logical flaw ellam vittutu paattha nalla irukku.... but MR padamradhaala adhellam yosikkama irukka mudila...
kaattuchirukki cry was introduced in the right time with a very strange voice and strange singing.. worked really well for that scene where veera was battling with his emotions whether to touch ragini or not... and ragini was in fear of vikram would do...
in many of the places the bgm was really good and elevated the scenes and situations well... but in many places i thought it could have been done a bit differently... usuala irukkura madhiri thonuchu... and that arabian voice was played when vikram starts thinking abt ragini... it sounded very strange...
sila edatthula rahman enna solla varaarnae purila... was wondering why the kaattuchirukku song comes for vennilaa when a haunting version of the same was already given for ragini and veera... anybody have a reason??
but the bgm which left a lump in the throat was the final naan varuvaen song... without that song, the particular scene would not have has such an effect... the best executed scene of the movie... dont think after that scene ragini would have went with dev... veera kooave gudhichu udankattai eriruppangalo... raavanan' peru vechadhaala avan setthadhukkapram enna agudhunradhu irrelevant anyway..
visuals... set... locations... bridge fight... everything from the very first frame was a treat for the eyes... jus was thinking the title graphics could have been done much better... 10 varushatthukku munnala yosicha madhiri irundhadhu...
dialogues patthi solliyae aaganum... veera pesara dialog ellam worked right for me except for that seyyul which veeraa continues when ragini speaks that... ganglayae 12avadhu padicha pattadhaari chakkari dhaan... ivar engarundhu idhellam katthukittaaru... oruvelai thambi sattham pottu paritchaikku padikkirappo kaettu katthukittaro...
raginiyoda dialogues dhaan highlightae... edho critical situationla maniratthinattha otthukkavechu suhashini indha chance vaangirupanganu nenakkiraen.... worked bad backed up by the worse dubbing...
only one or two dialogues were well written... ex: prabhu says.. "joke adichaa sirikradhilla... thuppaakki kaattuna bayappadradhilla... enna vaazhkkadaa saami.." ipdi endha emotionsumae illamae illama ennatthukku vaazhanum
prabhus dialogue delivery was real good in most of the scenes... he did act well in what he was given...
ragini thavira matthavanga pesara dialogue ellaam oru male writer ezhudhirukkalaamnu thonuchu... adhu dhaan nyaayam illaya...
yaen namma industryla female artistsoda dialogues femala dialogue writers and male writers for male artistsnu ezhudhuradhilla... how can a female think like a male or a male think like a female??
suhasini ellaam oru writernu...
avanga jayatv vimarsanam patthaavae ellaam therinja madhiri pesaraanganu kaduppaa varum.. apdi oru manusanukku ipdi oru manaiviyanu solluvaen...
the visuals and the editing backed the movie most of the time when the dialogues failed..
all said...
though there are many flaws... the movie worked for me... indha madhiri padam manirathinam thavira yaarum ipdi edutthirukka mudiyadhu... though i have a complain that he could have done in much better and more clear... padam paakkurappo emotional attachment konjam kammi dhaan when compared to other MR movies...
mani sir... ungala ellam oru rangela vechirukkom... adittha murai indha madhiri silra thappellam illama patthukkonga...
P.S: watched the movie second time in a duration of two days... the movie is real fast i must say...
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From: raghavendran on 26th July 2010 08:21 AM [Full View]
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From: venkkiram on 26th July 2010 09:55 AM [Full View]
நல்ல கேள்வி. அந்த கண்ணோட்டத்தில்தான் மின்னலே "வசீகரா.." பாடலை நான் இன்னும் நூறு சதவீதம் உயர்வான இடத்தில் வைத்திருக்கிறேன். எத்தனை நாளைக்குத் தான் கண்ணதாசன், வைரமுத்து, வாலி, நா.முத்துக்குமார் என ஆண்களின் வழியே உணர்வுகளை பார்ப்பது?? ப்ரியா போன்ற பெண் இயக்குனர்கள் வெள்ளித்திரைக்கு தொடர்ந்து வரும்போது இதெல்லாம் சாத்தியமாகும் எனத் தெரிகிறது. Originally Posted by SoftSword
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From: NOV on 27th July 2010 08:46 AM [Full View]
Raavanan is Second top grossing film (2010) in Malaysia after Singam, having grossed 42,356,893.30 INR
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From: Pras on 27th July 2010 12:15 PM [Full View]
NOV, is raavanan still playing in malaysia ? Originally Posted by NOV
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From: sathya_1979 on 27th July 2010 12:31 PM [Full View]
Nice review SS
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From: raghavendran on 27th July 2010 12:36 PM [Full View]
earlier avar post pannirundhaar...it has collected almost 7 crsnnu...gr8 goin..it has made a statement....vikram rocks...expecting him to bag some awards Originally Posted by Pras
NOV, is raavanan still playing in malaysia ? Originally Posted by NOV
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From: SoftSword on 27th July 2010 02:33 PM [Full View]
thanks raghav and sathya
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From: Pras on 27th July 2010 02:36 PM [Full View]
me too, me too ... innum oru national award nalla irukkum Originally Posted by raghavendran
earlier avar post pannirundhaar...it has collected almost 7 crsnnu...gr8 goin..it has made a statement....vikram rocks...expecting him to bag some awards Originally Posted by Pras
NOV, is raavanan still playing in malaysia ? Originally Posted by NOV
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From: Pras on 27th July 2010 02:38 PM [Full View]
Cast: Vikram, Aishwarya Rai, Priyamani, Prithviraj, Prabhu, Karthik, Munna, Ranjitha.
Direction: Mani Ratnam
Music: A R Rahman
Production: Madras Talkies Review
Trailer
Gallery
Mani’s Raavanan bears very little resemblance to the epic Ramayana. And when it does, it turns out to be so clichéd. Vikram saves the day with his riveting performance and Rahman with his numbers.
Trade Talk:
Multiplexes in urban centers have provided the movie respite, despite the thrashing it received from reviewers.
Public Talk:
Now that she has majorly ruined the role, will the Ash obsession fade away?
No. Weeks Completed: 5
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 21
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 46%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 1,51,251
Total collections in Chennai: Rs.5.04 Crore
Verdict: Average
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-raavanan.html
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From: NOV on 27th July 2010 02:42 PM [Full View]
not really, barring a couple remote cinemas. Originally Posted by Pras
NOV, is raavanan still playing in malaysia ?
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From: Sudarsh on 27th July 2010 10:09 PM [Full View]
very poor direction from mani... story was so confusing and the characters in the film were talking so fast he made it hard for the audience to interpret the messages i couldnt believe it was a ratnam movie especially after all the superb flics like iruvar, alaipayuthey, azhaztha ezhuthu and all.. sad to say this but i only saw the first 20 mins and then we got bored and turned it off. ...... even vikram and aish were irritating especially vikram's dan dan dan dan sound reminded me of ko ko ko kanthasamy... mani should have made much better use of these actors in a better story... i mean he had the best crew and cast but still a dissapointing film from him ... main weakness is the story and screenplay.. horrible story
its a good thing i didnt see the hindi version because iread that abishek's acting is horrible but if i found the tamil version boring itself im wondering what the hindi version will be like
i hope mani and vikram will recover with their next film
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From: SoftSword on 27th July 2010 11:05 PM [Full View]
vikram was irritating ellam konjam periya vaartthai...
he saves the movie most of the time with his performance, though i agree that a few of his mannerisms were weird
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From: Sudarsh on 28th July 2010 07:02 AM [Full View]
i usually enjoy vikram's perfromance but this movie i had to turn it of after the first 15- 20 mins ....im waiting for another anniyan from him Originally Posted by SoftSword
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From: Dilbert on 28th July 2010 07:25 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sudarsh
Bro, siva siva.. ! Pras sir tension-agga poorar !!
Avaar Vikram garu acting kkaga.. espeting National award bro..
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From: SoftSword on 28th July 2010 08:21 AM [Full View]
adhaan thappu... Originally Posted by Sudarsh
i usually enjoy vikram's perfromance but this movie i had to turn it of after the first 15- 20 mins ....im waiting for another anniyan from him Originally Posted by SoftSword
neenga fullaa paatthirukkanum...
oru nalla nadigan mela kadasi varaikkum nambikkai vekkanum
aamaa.. neenga enna theatrela reel operatora??
theatrela epdi turn if off panninga...
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From: Pras on 28th July 2010 11:35 AM [Full View]
watched again yesterday night ... unfortunately on the internet this time ... GREAT MOVIE ... neenga enna thaan inge sonnaalum paruvayilla ... you guys bashed pithamagan / anniyan as well ... ippo vanthu "waiting for another anniyan"-laam solluringa ...
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From: avven on 28th July 2010 11:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Pras
watched again yesterday night ... unfortunately on the internet this time ... GREAT MOVIE ... neenga enna thaan inge sonnaalum paruvayilla ... you guys bashed pithamagan / anniyan as well ... ippo vanthu "waiting for another anniyan"-laam solluringa ...
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From: Jyothsna on 28th July 2010 09:08 PM [Full View]
Watched the movie...
Intha padam vanthathum eppadiyavathu pathidanumnu romba ethirparthutu irunthean. Nalla velai vantha udane parkkala, romba yematrama irunthirukkum.
Mani Sir, enna achu ungalukku. Sila idangala thavira unga padam parkkara oru feel a illa.
First half la kathai arambamahave romba neram aana mathiri irunthuthu.But second half ponathe theriyala.
Padathukku periya plus, Cinematography padam parkkum pothu kaalukku keezha etho eeramave irukka mathiri oru feeling and Music esp. kadaisi song
Vikram- Nalla nadichirukkaru, intha vitha vithama satham podara mannerism than konjam aluppa irukku. Ragini kooda sernthu kavithai pesarathellam too much.
Ithukku sappai kattu vera, "pulavarunga, ethuva irunthalum narukkunu rendu varila solliduvarunga". Appo avare ethavathu ittukatti solliruntha kuda etho nambalam.Climax expression- class.
Aish- Azhagu mattum than, vera perusa solrathukku ethuvum illa. Enna characterization ithu ennathan poetic ana thairiyamana ponna irunthalum kadathittu pohumpothu kavithai pesuvangala??!!!
Prithviraj- romba nalla nadichirukkar, looks smart
Priyamani- Konja nerame vanthalum mansila pathiyaranga.. she has done her part well.
Karthik- Romba naalachu ippadi thuru thuru nu karthik a parthu Anumar characterngrathukaha ippadi marathukku maram thavanuma..
Enakku sila vishayangal puriyala..
1. Kolai veriyoda kadathitu vanthutu onnume illama kadhal varuma..
Athuvum anthamma uruppta vasanama kuda onnum pesala, 2 line barathiyar kavithai solli, aruviyila kuthikkaratha partha love panna thonuma...
2. Pazhivangathane aish a kadathitu vanthanga, pinna ethukku case ellam onnum illama panna Raginiya vitudrom nu solranga..
3.4. Prithviraj santhegapattathum kochitu porathu ok, aana ennai pathi enna sonninga nu ketkarathukaha avlo thooram easy a buslaye porangala?? Originally Posted by "SoftSword"
5. Suhasini thavira vera yarum vasanam ezhutha kedaikkalaya ?
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From: SoftSword on 28th July 2010 09:21 PM [Full View]
good review Jyo,
i very much agree to ur point of vikram falling in love,
worst depiction of a person falling in love, among all Mr movies..
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From: Mahen on 28th July 2010 09:24 PM [Full View]
It happens in real life Originally Posted by SoftSword
IMO, the lyrics of usure poguthe and the way it was shot justifies Vikram's lovuu
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From: Jyothsna on 28th July 2010 09:27 PM [Full View]
Irukkalam, vena vettiya suthitu irukku payyanukku varum.. ippadi oru ennathoda kootitu vanthavanukku varuma Originally Posted by Mahen
It happens in real life Originally Posted by SoftSword
IMO, the lyrics of usure poguthe and the way it was shot justifies Vikram's lovuu
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From: Jyothsna on 28th July 2010 09:28 PM [Full View]
SS
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From: SoftSword on 28th July 2010 09:43 PM [Full View]
u sure? Originally Posted by Mahen
It happens in real life Originally Posted by SoftSword
IMO, the lyrics of usure poguthe and the way it was shot justifies Vikram's lovuu
can u tell me what is the one thing which made vikram to fall for aish?
her beauty? or her kappitthanamaana kavidhai urayaadal? or her dhairiyam to jump from the cliff...
end of day, it went like, vikram has never seen any wheatish complexioned gals before in his community and when he sees someone like aish for the first time so close, he fell for her beauty...
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From: Jyothsna on 28th July 2010 09:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by SoftSword
u sure? Originally Posted by Mahen
It happens in real life Originally Posted by SoftSword
IMO, the lyrics of usure poguthe and the way it was shot justifies Vikram's lovuu
can u tell me what is the one thing which made vikram to fall for aish?
her beauty? or her kappitthanamaana kavidhai urayaadal? or her dhairiyam to jump from the cliff...
end of day, it went like, vikram has never seen any wheatish complexioned gals before in his community and when he sees someone like aish for the first time so close, he fell for her beauty...
Vikram: Bayapadatha ponna eppadinne sudrathu
Enakku therinhju bayapadravana kolrathuthan veeramillai nu solluvanga.. Ithu enna puthusa???
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From: SoftSword on 28th July 2010 09:56 PM [Full View]
adhu suhasani'yoda out of the box thinking
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From: Dilbert on 28th July 2010 11:39 PM [Full View]
out of box ->> gas-a Originally Posted by SoftSword
MR had great last 20min, to save this movie he missed it by few miles.. period.
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From: gane14 on 28th July 2010 11:46 PM [Full View]
[quote=Jyothsna]Watched the movie...
Intha padam vanthathum eppadiyavathu pathidanumnu romba ethirparthutu irunthean. Nalla velai vantha udane parkkala, romba yematrama irunthirukkum.
Mani Sir, enna achu ungalukku. Sila idangala thavira unga padam parkkara oru feel a illa.
First half la kathai arambamahave romba neram aana mathiri irunthuthu.But second half ponathe theriyala.
Padathukku periya plus, Cinematography padam parkkum pothu kaalukku keezha etho eeramave irukka mathiri oru feeling and Music esp. kadaisi song
Vikram- Nalla nadichirukkaru, intha vitha vithama satham podara mannerism than konjam aluppa irukku. Ragini kooda sernthu kavithai pesarathellam too much.
Ithukku sappai kattu vera, "pulavarunga, ethuva irunthalum narukkunu rendu varila solliduvarunga". Appo avare ethavathu ittukatti solliruntha kuda etho nambalam.Climax expression- class.
Aish- Azhagu mattum than, vera perusa solrathukku ethuvum illa. Enna characterization ithu ennathan poetic ana thairiyamana ponna irunthalum kadathittu pohumpothu kavithai pesuvangala??!!!
Prithviraj- romba nalla nadichirukkar, looks smart
Priyamani- Konja nerame vanthalum mansila pathiyaranga.. she has done her part well.
Karthik- Romba naalachu ippadi thuru thuru nu karthik a parthu Anumar characterngrathukaha ippadi marathukku maram thavanuma..
Enakku sila vishayangal puriyala..
1. Kolai veriyoda kadathitu vanthutu onnume illama kadhal varuma..
Athuvum anthamma uruppta vasanama kuda onnum pesala, 2 line barathiyar kavithai solli, aruviyila kuthikkaratha partha love panna thonuma...
2. Pazhivangathane aish a kadathitu vanthanga, pinna ethukku case ellam onnum illama panna Raginiya vitudrom nu solranga..
3. Originally Posted by "SoftSword"
adhae madhiri gnanaprakaasam chakkarai vandhirukkarnu solrappo sp's reactions were clear that he is gonna shoot him... but the forester did not show any sign to stop him or understand his intentions... and chakkaraiya shoot panra sattham kandippa avarukku kaetrukkum... thaan samaadhanama poidalaamnu convince panni kootti vandha aala suttukonnadhu therinjadhukku apramum kalaila jollya ukkandhu pallu thechchuttu irukkar...
4. Prithviraj santhegapattathum kochitu porathu ok, aana ennai pathi enna sonninga nu ketkarathukaha avlo thooram easy a buslaye porangala??
5. Suhasini thavira vera yarum vasanam ezhutha kedaikkalaya ?
super review, exactly what i felt after watching this movie....
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From: Pras on 29th July 2010 11:19 AM [Full View]
Raavanan in Malaysia : $906,396
I think that's the end in malaysia ... after 42 days ?
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From: Jyothsna on 29th July 2010 10:18 PM [Full View]
Watched it again..
Neraya ulkuthu irukku polarukke.. !!! Muthal thadavaiye innum konjam ozhunga parthurukkalamo nu thonuchu.
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From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2010 10:20 PM [Full View]
What ulkuthu ji?
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From: SoftSword on 29th July 2010 10:22 PM [Full View]
idhukkaga dhaan naan second time patthutu review poten Originally Posted by Jyothsna
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From: Jyothsna on 29th July 2010 10:35 PM [Full View]
Flaws ellam athethan.. Konjam nalla vishayangal thattupattuchu athan.. Neraya pakkaravangale purinjikkatum nu vitrukkar. Read Baradwaj Rangan's review. Appuram than, oh ithanai vishayam irukkanu marupadi parthean. Appavum MR standard ku ithu kammithannu thonuthu. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
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From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2010 10:37 PM [Full View]
Yes, unlike other movies, not all ends are tied-up. There are few open ends and the responsibility of inference is left to the viewer. Originally Posted by Jyothsna
Flaws ellam athethan.. Konjam nalla vishayangal thattupattuchu athan.. Neraya pakkaravangale purinjikkatum nu vitrukkar. Read Baradwaj Rangan's review. Appuram than, oh ithanai vishayam irukkanu marupadi parthean. Appavum MR standard ku ithu kammithannu thonuthu. Originally Posted by sathya_1979
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From: Sudarsh on 29th July 2010 10:41 PM [Full View]
lol i saw it in sruthilayalam's original dvd Originally Posted by SoftSword
adhaan thappu... Originally Posted by Sudarsh
i usually enjoy vikram's perfromance but this movie i had to turn it of after the first 15- 20 mins ....im waiting for another anniyan from him Originally Posted by SoftSword
neenga fullaa paatthirukkanum...
oru nalla nadigan mela kadasi varaikkum nambikkai vekkanum
aamaa.. neenga enna theatrela reel operatora??
theatrela epdi turn if off panninga...
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From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2010 10:45 PM [Full View]
Original? Release aayaachchaa?
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From: Cinefan on 30th July 2010 11:39 AM [Full View]
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14951378
Mani Ratnam’s Raavan on TV!
By Moviebuzz | Thursday, 29 July , 2010, 11:41
Mani Ratnam’s over hyped Raavan in Hindi is going to have its television premiere, 44 days after its world release!
Raavan featuring Abhishek Bachchan, Vikram and Aishwarya Rai, will have its world television premier this Sunday, August 1 at 8 pm on Colors. The film which had opened on June 18 is one of the fastest Hindi films to hit the small screen under 50 days of its theatrical release.
According to television industry sources, normally a very big Hindi film is shown on television only after 100 days of its theatrical release. But Raavan turned out to be such a colossal flop, that the producers and the channel which had the satellite rights realized that its futile to delay the television premiere.
Remember last Sunday (July 25) Sony created history when it telecast Aamir Khan’s Raju Hirani directed mega blockbuster 3 Idiots, 213 days after its theatrical release. The film garnered a television rating point (TRP) of 5.0 in its debut on small screen. It is the highest ever TRP for any feature film on television in India.
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From: Pras on 3rd August 2010 02:37 AM [Full View]
RAAVAN’S OUSTER
Raavan
Aug 02, 2010
Home > More news
Mani Ratnam’s Raavan will be featured at the 67th Venice Film Festival, which opens on September. However, this film will be showcased in the out-of-competition section. Raavan has Abhishek Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai and Vikram in important roles.
Yet another Indian film that will make it to this film fest is Anurag Kashyap's The Girl in Yellow Boots. Mani Ratnam, will receive the Jaeger-LeCoultre Glory to the Filmmaker Award during this film fest.
http://www.behindwoods.com/bollywood...-02-08-10.html
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From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2010 03:14 PM [Full View]
saw bits and pieces of raavan that day...shabbaa..apishek and vikram edho zoole irukiramadhiri sound vittute irundhange...they forgot they were human beings...tamizh version 100 times better...mani hindi edukkumbodhu thungitaro ennavo
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From: Thirumaran on 3rd August 2010 03:17 PM [Full View]
0 * 100 = 0 Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2010 03:34 PM [Full View]
seri seri..vidunge..adhan ravavn mudinjiduchu... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
0 * 100 = 0 Originally Posted by raghavendran
vivek:yarume illadhe kadaile yarukuda tea aathre"
nest padathukku move avom thiru sir
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From: Thirumaran on 3rd August 2010 03:36 PM [Full View]
U shd have added vadivelu lines also.. Originally Posted by raghavendran
seri seri..vidunge..adhan ravavn mudinjiduchu... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
0 * 100 = 0 Originally Posted by raghavendran
vivek:yarume illadhe kadaile yarukuda tea aathre"
nest padathukku move avom thiru sir
"naan enna sonnaen" :P
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From: Rajaruud on 3rd August 2010 03:36 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
0 * 100 = 0 Originally Posted by raghavendran
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From: Anban on 3rd August 2010 04:24 PM [Full View]
Vikram is going thru a sad phase.. bheema, kanthasaamy and now Raavanan.... romba varushamaa padam eduthu directors sothappuraanga..
but, I am happy for Mani Ratnam.. he deserves it..
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From: Sarna on 3rd August 2010 04:27 PM [Full View]
yEn Manirathnam mEla ivlO gaandu ? avar hindhi'ku pOnadhaalayaa ? Originally Posted by Anban
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From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2010 04:53 PM [Full View]
Sarna,
Mani should do a direct tamil film... indha bilingual ellam kaduppa irukku... last MR film I enjoyed - KM... typical MR movie... even AE, it was OK with Surya / Maddy's acting... they lifted the movie to a certain level... Guru - naan paakkala.. ippo raavanan - paarthen.. aana pudikkala...
understand that language should NOT be a barrier to enjoy a good movie... but still, rendu padam hindila panna, oru padam inga pannalam... athai vittutu ella audiencekkum vikkaraennu sothappuraaru...
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From: Anban on 3rd August 2010 04:59 PM [Full View]
for treating Tamil as second rung low class compared to Gindi .. I can never accept him as a genius.. still cant find anything to support that.. his movies at best are well structured like Naayagan or emotional like Kannathil... very good and highly efficient sometimes.. thts it.. Originally Posted by Sarna
yEn Manirathnam mEla ivlO gaandu ? avar hindhi'ku pOnadhaalayaa ? Originally Posted by Anban
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From: Sarna on 3rd August 2010 05:06 PM [Full View]
then I guess u might have hated Kamal during Alavandhan days :P Originally Posted by Anban
for treating Tamil as second rung low class compared to Gindi .. Originally Posted by Sarna
yEn Manirathnam mEla ivlO gaandu ? avar hindhi'ku pOnadhaalayaa ? Originally Posted by Anban
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From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2010 05:41 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sarna
then I guess u might have hated Kamal during Alavandhan days :P Originally Posted by Anban
for treating Tamil as second rung low class compared to Gindi .. Originally Posted by Sarna
yEn Manirathnam mEla ivlO gaandu ? avar hindhi'ku pOnadhaalayaa ? Originally Posted by Anban
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hindi is obvioulsy the bigger market so..mani had to do a lot of publicity for raavan..adhule onnum thappu illai....matha padi anbar solradhellam avar mani mele veche gaandu naale solradhu
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From: MADDY on 3rd August 2010 05:54 PM [Full View]
pant is a english product, wearing that ahead of "veshti" is considering tamil as low class thing??......
mani is a brand, a big brand which needs to sell in north and south.......its optimum usage is in doing bi-linguals - this is a business requirement with reasonable logic - i dunno whats so tough in understanding this.....
mixing language in this is displaying some sort of inferiority complex......
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From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2010 06:06 PM [Full View]
adha vidunga maddy...
i had this one doubt with respect to the bgm:
a haunting version of kaattu sirikki was used for Vikram and aish... but why do they use the same song again in normal version for priyamani intro?
whats the idea behind using the same words for brother and sister??
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From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2010 06:08 PM [Full View]
Maddy, Do you think bilinguals are working well for Mani? AE / Yuva OR Ravan / Raavanan - though it satisfies a certain section of people, generally it failed to make the impact in both OR in any of the languages... this is simply due to nativity.. doing bilinguals, you have to make compromises on the backdrop of the movie... if you want to show a marriage scene in a bilingual, how will you do that as culture is totally different from North South... Originally Posted by MADDY
I am NOT complaining Mani in doing hindi movies.. but doing ONLY Hindi movies OR making that as a bilingual does NOT appeal to me...
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From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2010 06:32 PM [Full View]
was thr a nativity problem in yuva/AE? Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Maddy, Do you think bilinguals are working well for Mani? AE / Yuva OR Ravan / Raavanan - though it satisfies a certain section of people, generally it failed to make the impact in both OR in any of the languages... this is simply due to nativity.. doing bilinguals, you have to make compromises on the backdrop of the movie... if you want to show a marriage scene in a bilingual, how will you do that as culture is totally different from North South... Originally Posted by MADDY
I am NOT complaining Mani in doing hindi movies.. but doing ONLY Hindi movies OR making that as a bilingual does NOT appeal to me...
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From: MADDY on 3rd August 2010 06:36 PM [Full View]
thats a different question altogether....... but surely, doing bilinguals doesent mean any irreverance to tamil - thats a rubbish allegation..... Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Maddy, Do you think bilinguals are working well for Mani? Originally Posted by MADDY
ok - for me, i enjoy both hindi and tamil movies of mani........i dont see any reason why he shouldnt continue in hindi or bilinguals..... Originally Posted by raajarasigan
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From: MADDY on 3rd August 2010 06:37 PM [Full View]
that must be a editing mistake Originally Posted by SoftSword
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From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2010 06:39 PM [Full View]
Raghav, I expected this... in Yuva, I don't see such a problem but in raavanan I felt.. Originally Posted by raghavendran
was thr a nativity problem in yuva/AE? Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Maddy, Do you think bilinguals are working well for Mani? AE / Yuva OR Ravan / Raavanan - though it satisfies a certain section of people, generally it failed to make the impact in both OR in any of the languages... this is simply due to nativity.. doing bilinguals, you have to make compromises on the backdrop of the movie... if you want to show a marriage scene in a bilingual, how will you do that as culture is totally different from North South... Originally Posted by MADDY
I am NOT complaining Mani in doing hindi movies.. but doing ONLY Hindi movies OR making that as a bilingual does NOT appeal to me...
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From: Plum on 3rd August 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
In Yuva, the Bengali nativity was a problem. Om Puri was listless and apart from that, Campus politics in Bengal is a topic by itself. Mani's college in Calcutta was as native as the tamilised version of Classmates. In Malayalam, the politics etc of the movie was in line with Kerala reality. When tamilised, it just became a manufactured college movie hence could not have the same impact.
Mani's Calcutta was pretty cardboard. Obviously, that came from the bi-lingual constraints.
Ofcourse, the retort to that is he was making his own meta world. But he has to make us buy his world, which we did in AE but Yuva was completely a let down.
Nayagan isnt a "realistic" movie either but it had its roots - firmly. So much so that Kamal commented that the Hindi remake failed because of lack of rootedness - he suggested that they should have set it in Southall, London to have the same impact on NI audience as it had on Tamil audience. That is the Mani you cant find in bi-linguals. Guru pathi sollavE vENAm.
I think if he makes a proper tamil film, it can either be remade or dubbed(if it has the right stars) into hindi. That might be more satisfactory than bi-linguals.
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From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2010 06:46 PM [Full View]
Not convincing Maddy. Rerecording is the dept who takes care of choosing the music for any scene. Originally Posted by MADDY
that must be a editing mistake Originally Posted by SoftSword
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From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2010 06:57 PM [Full View]
Maddy, agree that we cannot say that as an Irreverence... aana konjam othukki vacha maadhiri irukku... just to sell his movies to a broad range of audience, he is doing bilinguals.. I wish if he takes a movie for a certain section of audience, it will at least satisfy to those... Originally Posted by MADDY
thats a different question altogether....... but surely, doing bilinguals doesent mean any irreverance to tamil - thats a rubbish allegation..... Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Maddy, Do you think bilinguals are working well for Mani? Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: NOV on 4th August 2010 07:20 PM [Full View]
Raavanan has been sent to the Venice Film Festival. Maniratnam to receive Filmmaker of the Year award!
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From: Mahen on 4th August 2010 07:30 PM [Full View]
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From: Anban on 4th August 2010 07:30 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Raavanan has been sent to the Venice Film Festival. Maniratnam to receive Filmmaker of the Year award!
marketing
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From: NOV on 4th August 2010 07:36 PM [Full View]
pure, unadulterated jealousy Originally Posted by Anban
marketing
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From: VJerry on 4th August 2010 07:38 PM [Full View]
Yes, why do they need to market nw !!!! Originally Posted by NOV
pure, unadulterated jealousy Originally Posted by Anban
marketing
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From: raajarasigan on 4th August 2010 07:41 PM [Full View]
Nov,
Can you post the link for the same?
This is what I had seen earlier...
RAAVAN’S OUSTER
Aug 02, 2010
Mani Ratnam’s Raavan will be featured at the 67th Venice Film Festival, which opens in September. However, this film will be showcased in the out-of-competition section. Raavan has Abhishek Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai and Vikram in important roles.
Yet another Indian film that will make it to this film fest is Anurag Kashyap's The Girl in Yellow Boots. Mani Ratnam, will receive the Jaeger-LeCoultre Glory to the Filmmaker Award during this film fest.
http://www.behindwoods.com/bollywood...-02-08-10.html
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From: NOV on 4th August 2010 07:44 PM [Full View]
The news was on the radio RR. Yes, it is not in competition.
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From: Anban on 4th August 2010 08:10 PM [Full View]
it didnt compete in CANNES also.. but Maniyaar orathula poyi ninnu oru still koduppaaru.. CANNES-la award vaaangina maathiri banthaa panrathu.. yet simple man image Originally Posted by NOV
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From: gurusaravanan on 4th August 2010 09:15 PM [Full View]
agree Originally Posted by Anban
it didnt compete in CANNES also.. but Maniyaar orathula poyi ninnu oru still koduppaaru.. CANNES-la award vaaangina maathiri banthaa panrathu.. yet simple man image Originally Posted by NOV
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From: MADDY on 4th August 2010 09:27 PM [Full View]
oh, Cannes is "kalai sevai" and not commercial festival - ok, note panni vechhikuren.........thalaivar or mani ennaikkavadhu jeikkumbodhu enna solraanga-nnu paarpom.........appa adhu commercial marketing aaidum - just like oscars suddenly became "commercial award" after 20 yrs of longing.....
when a group praises director hari and singam kind of movies but bash maniratnam so much, im forced to look at reasons beyond cinema for this hatred - economic status/ other personal attributes of maniratnam??
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From: Vivasaayi on 4th August 2010 09:31 PM [Full View]
cannes kalai sevai irukatum..neenga ivlo seekirama kalai (mani/arr) sevaikku varubveengannu edhirpakala Originally Posted by MADDY
oh, Cannes is "kalai sevai" and not commercial festival - ok, note panni vechhikuren.........thalaivar or mani ennaikkavadhu jeikkumbodhu enna solraanga-nnu paarpom.........appa adhu commercial marketing aaidum - just like oscars suddenly became "commercial award" after 20 yrs of longing.....
when a group praises director hari and singam kind of movies but bash maniratnam so much, im forced to look at reasons beyond cinema for this hatred - economic status/ other personal attributes of maniratnam??
naangathan chinna pasanga edho pesurom...neenga kudumbastharrr....perundhanmayaa
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From: MADDY on 4th August 2010 09:34 PM [Full View]
hehe kudumbastharr dhaan - leave mudinju office-nnu onnu irukku, adhula free tayam-nnu irukku, enna panna solrel :P Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
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From: Sarna on 4th August 2010 09:35 PM [Full View]
9:34 pm'ku office'aa ? second shift'aa ?
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From: sathya_1979 on 4th August 2010 10:11 PM [Full View]
Maddy, maybe you can suggest Mani Sir to look for an alternative career - Taking Marketing and Business related subject Classes for students in premier business schools like IIM and ISB (so that their standard can be improved), as he seems to be better in marketing than film making (which he can consider as secondary career).
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From: m_23_bayarea on 7th August 2010 07:36 AM [Full View]
Just bought the DVD and watching RAAVANAN for the 3rd time!
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From: Pras on 9th August 2010 01:41 PM [Full View]
only third Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Just bought the DVD and watching RAAVANAN for the 3rd time! ... watch it a few more times please ... naan ellam 5 thadava thaanditaachu
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From: AudazJay on 7th September 2010 01:03 PM [Full View]
Mani Ratnam presented with Jaeger - Le'Coultre Glory To The Film Maker Award in Venice http://twitpic.com/2m20bv
Vikram, Mani Ratnam and Suhasini at Raavanan Photocall - 67th Venice Film Festival http://twitpic.com/2m228b
Vikram, Mani Ratnam and Suhasini at Raavanan Premiere - 67th Venice Film Festival http://twitpic.com/2m22v5
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From: NOV on 7th September 2010 02:05 PM [Full View]
No. 1 director of India!
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From: kid-glove on 7th September 2010 02:22 PM [Full View]
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From: groucho070 on 7th September 2010 02:53 PM [Full View]
Any idea what the award is about and for?
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From: A.ANAND on 7th September 2010 07:11 PM [Full View]
Jaeger-LeCoultre Glory to the Filmmaker Award 2010 IMANIRATNAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U20NsApKrqg
THALAIVA VAZHGA!!! 
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From: Mahen on 7th September 2010 07:40 PM [Full View]
Nice to see Vikram accompanying Mani as well Why no apishek?
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From: MADDY on 7th September 2010 07:40 PM [Full View]
very proud moment as a Mani fan
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From: viraajan on 7th September 2010 08:10 PM [Full View]
Congratulations Sir!
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From: venkkiram on 7th September 2010 08:23 PM [Full View]
வாழ்த்துக்கள் மணி!
இன்று பேர் தெரியாத அயல்நாட்டு புற நகர் நூல் நிலையங்களில் கூட உன் படங்களை DVD-ஆக வைத்திருப்பதை கண் கூடாக பார்க்க நேரிடும் போது உடம்பில் உள்ள அத்தனை ரோமங்களும் சிலிர்க்கிறது மணி!
தமிழனுக்கும், இந்தியனுக்கும் என எல்லோருக்கும் ஒரு சேரபெருமை சேர்க்கும் இயக்குனராக திகழும் நீ நீடுடி வாழ்க!
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From: Nerd on 7th September 2010 08:42 PM [Full View]
adhaanE, edhukku idhu? naanum koogle panni paathen. onniyum varalai Originally Posted by groucho070
Any idea what the award is about and for? (is it there on the yotube link?)
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From: tamizharasan on 7th September 2010 08:51 PM [Full View]
Idhu googlaiyum thAndi punithamAnathu Originally Posted by Nerd
adhaanE, edhukku idhu? naanum koogle panni paathen. onniyum varalai Originally Posted by groucho070
Any idea what the award is about and for? (is it there on the yotube link?)
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From: Nerd on 7th September 2010 09:19 PM [Full View]
Ah so lifetime achievement or something. Then its well deserved. Naan kooda Raavanan-kku nu payanthuttEn
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From: Anban on 7th September 2010 09:21 PM [Full View]
same feelings Originally Posted by Nerd
Ah so lifetime achievement or something. Then its well deserved. Naan kooda Raavanan-kku nu payanthuttEn
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From: raajarasigan on 7th September 2010 11:02 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Ah so lifetime achievement or something. Then its well deserved. Naan kooda Raavanan-kku nu payanthuttEn Yes.. he deserves life time achievement award...
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From: ajithfederer on 8th September 2010 01:28 AM [Full View]
Thanks to some vetti research
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_to_the_Filmmaker!
Glory to the Filmmaker! (監督·ばんざい!, Kantoku · Banzai! ?) is a 2007 Japanese film written, directed, edited by the film's lead star Takeshi Kitano. It is the second film in Kitano's surrealist autobiographical trilogy, following Takeshis', and concluding with Achilles and the Tortoise.
In 2007, the Venice Film Festival introduced a new award named after the film, Kitano was also the first recipient of the Glory to the Filmmaker! award.
Congrats to MR
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From: AudazJay on 8th September 2010 11:42 AM [Full View]
Ravanan is selected not only to honour Mani but because it's one of the films to be screened during the film festival premier. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
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From: kid-glove on 8th September 2010 08:00 PM [Full View]
Mani winning this award is a great achievement IMO. Seldom mainstream filmmakers manage to get such recognition. Likes of Mani, Kitano and Stallone have all got this, because of their well-earned significance in their respective film industry. So another
I read the article in question, it manages to get lot of things wrong. It doesn't touch on significance of Mahendran, Balu Mahendra, etc. Or even KB and BR for that matter. Moreover, any article that derides NT's stature (As just a 'melodramatic' ' stage actor when he has traversed all styles) and undervalues his importance in TFI is automatically ignorant IMO. So I reserve further comments.
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From: Pras on 14th September 2010 06:40 PM [Full View]
VIKRAM AND MANI RATNAM WAITED TILL THE LAST
Vikram
Sep 14, 2010
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Actor Vikram recalls the moment when he along with Ravanan’s director Mani Ratnam and Suhasini Mani Ratnam took the centre stage soon after the screening of the film at the Venice Film Festival recently. The audience, about 600-700 people, gave thundering applause to the trio, he said.
Vikram revealed that they had intended to stay on for the screening till the Usure Poguthey song as they were scared of the reaction the film would garner, but realized that the audiences were engrossed in the film so that they decided on staying till the last.
It may be recalled that Mani Ratnam was honored with the Jaeger-LeCoultre Glory to the Filmmaker Award during this event.
Vikram was quoted as saying, “Right from the pre-awards party to the red carpet welcome and the amazing response from the audience, everything was just perfect. Even a few bigwigs, who didn't really give us much bhaav before the screening, came to us later and asked if they could have pictures taken with us. My character Veera was well-received, and many started addressing me as Veera. Now, that's a great appreciation for any actor in a foreign land. I was never this excited before.”
They screened raavanan ?
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From: MADDY on 14th September 2010 07:06 PM [Full View]
yes
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From: raghavendran on 14th September 2010 07:07 PM [Full View]
vikramum maniyum ipdi ottikurange..next film serndhu pannuvangalo?
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From: Pras on 19th October 2010 06:30 PM [Full View]
Ace cameramen Santosh Sivan and V. Manikandan have been together nominated for the Best Cinematography Award at the Asia Pacific Screen Awards (APSA) to be held in Australia on December2.
The nominations for the fourth annual Asia Pacific Screen Awards to be held in have been announced and India has received five nominations, including three for Marathi cinema.
The breath taking visuals of ‘Raavanan’ were hailed as poetry on celluloid. Though the film received mixed responses, the cinematography of Santhosh Sivan and Manikandan was unanimously admired by both critics and the masses.
Their closest competitor in the category will be Sudhir Palsane for the Marathi film Vihir, produced by Amitabh Bachchan.
APSA is an initiative of the Queensland government, Australia, in collaboration with UNESCO and FIAPF - International Federation of Film Producers' Associations.
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From: A.ANAND on 17th November 2010 10:03 AM [Full View]
Mani Ratnam's Raavanan: The Must-See International Film of 2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-lu..._b_784529.html
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From: venkkiram on 2nd December 2010 09:05 AM [Full View]
http://www.asiapacificscreenawards.c..._screen_awards
ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் மணிகண்டன் வெற்றிபெற வாழ்த்துக்கள்!
