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From: Dasavatharan
on 20th August 2008 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
irir123
Thamiz - DASA is a commercial entertainer :
I like this rather than your earlier defense of binocular might have been used to measure the temp.
I checked out, he is only seeing the virus or RNA or DNA or replication, NOT the temperature!
Anyway, take it easy
Next time aandavar shud have a session with Thamizh and get her consent before finalizing his script.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 08:37 AM
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tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
Last year also she had a discussion with India's Top Economists to check whether the Techniques had shown in Shivaji is correct or wrong.
She is netural nomatter whose film is.
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From: ajithfederer
on 20th August 2008 08:55 AM
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sriman
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From: Dasavatharan
on 20th August 2008 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
Adhu eppadi mudiyum sakala!!!
One Rendu Logic'na mudiyum.....Mathapadi padam poora logic .... ethana neram thaan avunga paapaanga
Bye
... appadeennu soleettu poyittae iruppaanga
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From: Nerd
on 20th August 2008 09:15 AM
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Can you also remove the comparison post in this thread like you removed dilb's post there?????????
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
you guys need other movies to defend your own? Best screenwriter in the planet, pOyim pOyum Shankar-Oda comparison
correct, we shud not use any specific movie name, dasa is miles ahead
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 11:32 AM
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
அவர் சண்டை காட்சிகளை பற்றி அதிகம் பேசுகிறார்.
அவர் சண்டைகாட்சிகளை தொடர்ந்து விளக்கி விமர்சித்து எழுதி வருகிறார் .
அது அவரின் தனிச்சிறப்பு .
அதை நான் கவனித்தேன், ஆனால் தசாவில் உள்ள மற்ற பொழுதுபோக்கு அம்சங்கள் மற்ற படங்களை விட பன்மடங்கு சிறப்பாயிருந்ததையும் அவர் கவனிதிருக்க்கலாம் லாஜிக் ஓட்டைகளை மட்டும் வைத்து இந்த படத்தை விமர்சிப்பது எப்படி சரியாகும்? விமர்சனம் என்றால் plus minus இரண்டுமே தானே!!
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 12:33 PM
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http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...aniapuram.html
Subramaniapuram at sixth weekend 1.02 crores
Satyam 3days 39 lakhs
Kuselan at 2nd week end 3.08 crores
Sivaji and 10A at 9th weekend 10 crores..
Business calculations may went wrong among concerned people but the above data clearly shows Kuselan is indeed a superhit among people
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From: joe
on 20th August 2008 12:51 PM
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14742704&cid=13525926
Ulagam Viayakkum Unnadha Blockbuster Dasa.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Can't expect anything else from a site run by Rajini fans
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Anyway, take it easy
and you thot I was taking you seriously ??
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
Last year also she had a discussion with India's Top Economists to check whether the Techniques had shown in Shivaji is correct or wrong.
She is netural nomatter whose film is.
Amaam amaam
namma padathula logical holes-um irukkum.. avinga padangaLLa logical holes mattum dhaen irukkum!
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Business calculations may went wrong among concerned people but the above data clearly shows Kuselan is indeed a superhit among people
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From: Avadi to America
on 20th August 2008 06:06 PM
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SIVAJI
N.O. Weeks Completed: 9.
No. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 204.
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 123.
Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 41 %.
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 51 %.
Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.22 crores.
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.16 Crores
Total collections in Chennai by end of the tenth weekend: Rs.10.91 crores
Verdict: Blockbuster (History rewritten)
http://www.mayyam.com/hub/archives/T...10145_Sivaji__
_The_deaf_frog_towards_the_hilltop_____10_.html
The above article was orginally published by behindwoods.com. Now the article link has expired in behindwoods.com website.
DASA
No. Weeks Completed: 9
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 93
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 40 %
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 6,63,633
Total collections in Chennai by end of the tenth weekend: Rs. 10.55 Crore
Verdict: Blockbuster
www.behindwoods.com
malaysian boxoffice comparison.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c6dfd9216197
source:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/malaysia/?
yr=2008&wk=25&p=.htm
Uk Boxoffice comparison.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a61fa09216198
source:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/uk/?
yr=2008&wk=24&p=.htm
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
Last year also she had a discussion with India's Top Economists to check whether the Techniques had shown in Shivaji is correct or wrong.
She is netural nomatter whose film is.
Amaam amaam
namma padathula logical holes-um irukkum.. avinga padangaLLa logical holes mattum dhaen irukkum!
athane, logic pathi yar pesurathunnu oru "vivasayi" illai??!!
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From: Nerd
on 20th August 2008 06:30 PM
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A2A enna idhu sinnapuLLathanamaa
what are you trying to proofp? The whole world knows, except the hub of course
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by
cm123
Business calculations may went wrong among concerned people but the above data clearly shows Kuselan is indeed a superhit among people
10A va 50 to 60 daysla ella areavilum thukiyachu poi atha ennanu parunga
udane record releasenu allividathinga.. single theatre releasleum thukiyachu..
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
A2A enna idhu sinnapuLLathanamaa
what are you trying to proofp? The whole world knows, except the hub of course
Kamalfanshub appadinnu pera mathitta nalla irukkum
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tamiz, intha alavu logic, en neenga matha padangalil pakkamatengareenga? why only kamal film? you clearly know if one starts to see logic in other film it will be in trash
Last year also she had a discussion with India's Top Economists to check whether the Techniques had shown in Shivaji is correct or wrong.
She is netural nomatter whose film is.
Amaam amaam
namma padathula logical holes-um irukkum.. avinga padangaLLa logical holes mattum dhaen irukkum!
athane, logic pathi yar pesurathunnu oru "vivasayi" illai??!!
kamalfanshub enru pera mathikittu nengale ellathayum vivasthayoda pesunga
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by
cm123
Business calculations may went wrong among concerned people but the above data clearly shows Kuselan is indeed a superhit among people
10A va 50 to 60 daysla ella areavilum thukiyachu poi atha ennanu parunga
udane record releasenu allividathinga.. single theatre releasleum thukiyachu..
Ottaradhula neenga expert aana kanakkula anyayathukku kotta vitruveenga..
The entire world knows about Dasa's collections except Kumbakonam cm123!
adhu seri, ungalukku Kumbakonam = Ulagam
Yeah, keep 'em coming cm123, Kuselan hit, Baba hit, NON hit, Sundar is the master of analysis... "unga ulagam thani ulagam" aache!
Your desparation and sappakattu, and above all, LOGIC(?!!?) mei silirkka veikkiradhu
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th August 2008 06:52 PM
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cm123,
pinna enna edhirpaakureenga?
850 days operatora mattum vechu otanumo?
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
A2A enna idhu sinnapuLLathanamaa
what are you trying to proofp? The whole world knows,
except the hub of course
Yeah about Kuselan, of course!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th August 2008 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Originally Posted by
Nerd
A2A enna idhu sinnapuLLathanamaa
what are you trying to proofp? The whole world knows, except the hub of course
Kamalfanshub appadinnu pera mathitta nalla irukkum
point taken
mindla vechukurom...
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th August 2008 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Originally Posted by
Nerd
A2A enna idhu sinnapuLLathanamaa
what are you trying to proofp? The whole world knows, except the hub of course
Kamalfanshub appadinnu pera mathitta nalla irukkum
How about Kumbakonam spessalist cm123's analysis godown?
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From: MADDY
on 20th August 2008 07:07 PM
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indha thread-um lock aaiduma - hub neutrals dhukkkkkam
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:17 PM
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From: sarna_blr
on 20th August 2008 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Ware wow what a Thread
yeah... really lovely thread :P
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Ware wow what a Thread
yeah... really lovely thread :P
Sarna
Start Messik.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 07:21 PM
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aiyoo antha comedianai pathi solli malathu!! mathi mathi pesurathulayum, sollave sollaathathym solrathula avaru expert!
2 days munnaadi releasi agi vetrigarama odikondirukkum "theatre owner's pulambal\kenjal video" fullaa gupsavaam, avanga sonna oru word um unmai illayaam. aana Baba tholvipadamalla nnu avinga sonnathu mattum unmayaam.
sarithaan, mathi mathi pesuvanga. magarasani vambukku izuppainga. orey comedy thaan ponga. annangal anaivarum rajnifans.com archives laye vazthukitrukaainga.
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 07:23 PM
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I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
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From: Nerd
on 20th August 2008 07:23 PM
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sakala and CR, yERkanavE sonnEn-nu ninaikkiREn.. Please don't talk about people who are not part of the hub. Let's not become one of those sify commentors
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From: Thalafanz
on 20th August 2008 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
Sir, intha pirachanayil en hero-va vittudunggO pls...
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
Late news
Nethikke Radiola Vandhuchu.
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
sakala and CR, yERkanavE sonnEn-nu ninaikkiREn.. Please don't talk about people who are not part of the hub. Let's not become one of those sify commentors
unga support engallukku irukku. :P
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 07:26 PM
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what is the purpose off this thread? Oh well I guess you guys must be bored in the aapice, or ur managers haalidays poiirupanga
Yabba, I am out of here
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 07:26 PM
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btw, i think kamalfans are not stoping any other hubbers to post anything. i think hub is democratic atleast to that level.
btw, ennai pesa vidama senjittaanga
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
everybody know ..
ithukku ethukku rajini vs kamal... flop star rajini ...mental rajini fans appadinnu ethavathu vaithal nalla irukkum
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
everybody know ..
ithukku ethukku rajini vs kamal...
flop star rajini ...mental rajini fans appadinnu ethavathu vaithal nalla irukkum
Ippa edhukku thevai illama idhu?
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
Thalafanz
Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
Sir, intha pirachanayil en hero-va vittudunggO pls...
No not at all , I like anNan Thala
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From: Nerd
on 20th August 2008 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
Nerd
sakala and CR, yERkanavE sonnEn-nu ninaikkiREn.. Please don't talk about people who are not part of the hub. Let's not become one of those sify commentors
unga support engallukku irukku. :P
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From: sarna_blr
on 20th August 2008 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
I remember selva's post in kuselan thread.... maamiyaar mEla kOvam'na pakkaththu veettukkaarana vambukku izhukkuradhu.... y thevaillaama Ajith'a izhukkureenga
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
cm123
Originally Posted by
Raghu
I Have noticed, this thread has the Most Ajith & kamal fans, even some mods are kamal fans, they know who they are!!!
and they are BIASED when it comes to their Heros RIVALS
everybody know ..
ithukku ethukku rajini vs kamal...
flop star rajini ...mental rajini fans appadinnu ethavathu vaithal nalla irukkum
Ippa edhukku thevai illama idhu?
avar Unmaiyai thaane sonNar
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 20th August 2008 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
cm123
ithukku ethukku rajini vs kamal... flop star rajini ...mental rajini fans appadinnu ethavathu vaithal nalla irukkum
ithu thevayaa?? kamalukkum dasavukkum than opposite camp ennennavo per vakkiraanga. ippo nanga athayellam kettoma
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 20th August 2008 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
Nerd
sakala and CR, yERkanavE sonnEn-nu ninaikkiREn.. Please don't talk about people who are not part of the hub. Let's not become one of those sify commentors
unga support engallukku irukku. :P
Anti - Sify. :P
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From: cm123
on 20th August 2008 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
cm123
ithukku ethukku rajini vs kamal... flop star rajini ...mental rajini fans appadinnu ethavathu vaithal nalla irukkum
ithu thevayaa?? kamalukkum dasavukkum than opposite camp ennennavo per vakkiraanga. ippo nanga athayellam kettoma
whatever we post in support of rajini is getting deleted.. moderators act quickly... but others can post anything...
what else u expect
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 07:36 PM
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Just a general questions guys, everyone knows I am a Rajni fan, have you ever seen me ill talking kamal , have you ever seen me posting crap about kamal day and night,as if i have nothing else to do??
I never even pop into kamal thread , even though he was my 2nd fav actor during the 80's, but there are regular kamal Fanatics here, who for no appearant reason, stay awake at night like an owl, go thru google to find any crap about Rajni and constatnly post in Rajni thread to irritate rajnis fans, yet these mods turn a blind eye towards them
there was a nut case called 'COD' here couple of yrs back, he was utter nonsense, he was a kamal fanatic too, but the mods did not do anything about him
any way, carry on guys,
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From: sarna_blr
on 20th August 2008 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
Ware wow what a Thread
yeah... really lovely thread :P
Sarna
Start Messik.
Ey Adra Adra Naakka Mukka Naakka Mukka Naakka Mukka Naakka Mukka Naakka
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From: Nerd
on 20th August 2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
indha thread-um lock aaiduma - hub neutrals dhukkkkkam
yaarunganna andha neeeiuutral?? IR section-la yEdhO nadakkudhu
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From: Raghu
on 20th August 2008 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
MADDY
indha thread-um lock aaiduma - hub neutrals dhukkkkkam
yaarunganna andha neeeiuutral?? IR section-la yEdhO nadakkudhu
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From: MADDY
on 20th August 2008 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
MADDY
indha thread-um lock aaiduma - hub neutrals dhukkkkkam
yaarunganna andha neeeiuutral?? IR section-la yEdhO nadakkudhu
rajini-kamal sandai poruthha mattil, naa neutral dhaanpaa
.....ofcourse,i like rajini for his "raghavendra bhakti" - thats all....but when it comes to music, both are ilayaraja fans
:no mercy:
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From: jaiganes
on 20th August 2008 11:59 PM
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irundhaalum ippallaam Kamal mela unga karunai paarvai vizhuvadhaaga paechu!!!
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From: Movie Cop
on 21st August 2008 01:46 AM
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Not only their fans but even the two arch rivals themselves are fighting it out on the screen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3svWKuGHdVY
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From: Raghu
on 21st August 2008 03:54 PM
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ahaa ithuku ennam pootu podalaiya ??
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From: sarna_blr
on 21st August 2008 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
ahaa ithuku ennam pootu podalaiya ??
jolly'yaana thread'naa ungalukku pudikkaadhaa
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 21st August 2008 08:32 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpc1k...eature=related
P. Vaasu
this is what he has to say about rajini and kamal - Knowing the audience and doing the characters ...he knows very well this is what i have to do, but kamal sir knows very well that if try i might fail, but let me try, that is he(rajni) and this is he(kamal)
0.43 to 0.60
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From: Nasc
on 21st August 2008 10:00 PM
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Kamal himself has told nothing can replace success.That being said I doubt if he starts anything knowing it might fail(BO in Vasu's perspective).Vasu's statement as we can see is purely short sighted with just the box office collection.Vasu has no idea as to what's in Kamal's thot process. I agree kodambakkam values BO more than anything else but genius stand for eternity.
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 21st August 2008 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nasc
Kamal himself has told nothing can replace success.That being said I doubt if he starts anything knowing it might fail(BO in Vasu's perspective).Vasu's statement as we can see is purely short sighted with just the box office collection.Vasu has no idea as to what's in Kamal's thot process. I agree kodambakkam values BO more than anything else but genius stand for eternity.
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From: Nasc
on 21st August 2008 10:03 PM
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From: ajithfederer
on 21st August 2008 10:09 PM
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Spielberg thambi padathai edukarathoda niruthikanum !!!
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpc1kAMEAzM&feature=related
P. Vaasu
this is what he has to say about rajini and kamal - Knowing the audience and doing the characters ...he knows very well this is what i have to do, but kamal sir knows very well that if try i might fail, but let me try, that is he(rajni) and this is he(kamal)
0.43 to 0.60
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 21st August 2008 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nasc
Bay- glucose venuma?
Sorry, it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm not just pointing at you though... :P
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From: RC
on 21st August 2008 10:42 PM
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thamizh: yean indha kola vERi?
kuselan flop-ku dasavathaaraththin mEl yean ungaLukku kObam?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 21st August 2008 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
RC
thamizh: yean indha kola vERi?
kuselan flop-ku dasavathaaraththin mEl yean ungaLukku kObam?
RC, avinga eppavume kolai veriyoda than irupainga
pothuva engakitta ethavathu thappa solli vangi kattikolvathaal intha nilai. nothing can be done
if u dont beleive, see my last post, she is asking me kostins [thats ok] and at the same time falling harsh on me[thats not nice
]
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 21st August 2008 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Sorry,
it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm not just pointing at you though... :P
first, who said so???
and who is fanatic here? or u say about someone outside hub?
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From: Nasc
on 21st August 2008 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Bay- glucose venuma?
Sorry, it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm
not just pointing at you though... :P
Well there are ppl who just do what they are Best at and be the Best in it unlike others.and also there might be areas were Kamal is not best(if u r mentioning to him)and I glady wud accept them.e.g he being straight forward and sticking to legality.instance, his recent announcement of MY launch.He was bold enuf to tell the bad media abt their wrongness instead of just sulking in any publicity is good publicity
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 21st August 2008 11:12 PM
[Full View]
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Bay- glucose venuma?
Sorry, it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm
not just pointing at you though... :P
Well there are ppl who just do what they are Best at and be the Best in it unlike others.and also there might be areas were Kamal is not best(if u r mentioning to him)and I glady wud accept them.e.g he being straight forward and sticking to legality.instance, his recent announcement of MY launch
.He was bold enuf to tell the bad media abt their wrongness instead of just sulking in any publicity is good publicity
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From: thamiz
on 21st August 2008 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
RC
thamizh: yean indha kola vERi?
kuselan flop-ku dasavathaaraththin mEl yean ungaLukku kObam?
அதெல்லாம் ஒண்ணும் இல்லை ஆர் சி!
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From: Dasavatharan
on 21st August 2008 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Amarshiva
Tamiz:
He is Govind Ramasamy.. You know how..
Ramasamy is the first of his father.. His name is Govind..So per Indian passport he is "Govind Ramasamy"
P:N : Here we have surname to be added in th pp. There is no compulsion that one should have first name,second name & last name.
Coming back, it's commercial masala mixed with some good receipe with an intention of taking tamil cinema a step forward.
So, u agree that the previous year movie is totally a "BS". If you agree that we'll agree that to an extent that was there in DASA too.
Your subject matter is good, but not your intension..
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Nasc
tamizh--
The movie has fiction,surrealism,drama,neo concepts,spirituality,politics(etc)above all intellegence and entertainment.may be its a little too much for ppl like u to comprehend so much in a single shot or cud very well be just jealousy which is understandable.
give it a break...
Jealousy?!
Jealous of what?!
When someone offers a long explanation of how binocular works and how IR detectors helped to see the virus replication by balaram naidu and so on, I was trying to understand what he was trying to say.
If the answer were, "it is just a cmmercial entertainer for mass and there will obviously be a lots of bs", I would not have tried to understand anything anymore!
Anyway, let us see,
He is Ramasamy Govind S/O Ramasamy Naicker?
What is his first name?
Ramasamy or Govind?
You gave a long answer but I dont find what I want.
Let me ask again, What is his first name??
Remembered Goundamani in Sooriyan,
Sss...apppa Kosu Thollai thaanga mudiyalaidaa saaami!!!.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 21st August 2008 11:52 PM
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dasavatharan, gounds omakushiyai appadi soluvaaru, but, seeing the situation, avarellaam theivamga
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From: Amarshiva
on 21st August 2008 11:55 PM
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Emmodiyov>>>
Nasc : Neenga enna NASC 'a ella NACL- A... Washout panringa.....
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Bay- glucose venuma?
Sorry, it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm
not just pointing at you though... :P
Well there are ppl who just do what they are Best at and be the Best in it unlike others.and also there might be areas were Kamal is not best(if u r mentioning to him)and I glady wud accept them.e.g he being straight forward and sticking to legality.instance, his recent announcement of MY launch
.He was bold enuf to tell the bad media abt their wrongness instead of just sulking in any publicity is good publicity
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From: ajithfederer
on 21st August 2008 11:59 PM
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From: Nasc
on 22nd August 2008 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
Amarshiva
Emmodiyov>>>
Nasc : Neenga enna NASC 'a ella NACL- A... Washout panringa.....
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Bay- glucose venuma?
Sorry, it just makes me wonder if someone in this world can be the BEST of the BEST in "everything" he does!
Too much of a stretch beyond fanaticism! I'm
not just pointing at you though... :P
Well there are ppl who just do what they are Best at and be the Best in it unlike others.and also there might be areas were Kamal is not best(if u r mentioning to him)and I glady wud accept them.e.g he being straight forward and sticking to legality.instance, his recent announcement of MY launch
.He was bold enuf to tell the bad media abt their wrongness instead of just sulking in any publicity is good publicity
Amar--
but these instances are well taken with vengence and these guys wait for a oppur to write him off.any way thazhaimuraiyai thaandi avar jeyyipar.
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 12:42 AM
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Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
I wonder why! There is something wrong!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 22nd August 2008 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
sakala: Yeah I am going to kindergarten!
if thats the case u better try to do kindrgarden in correspondence(distance education). i am concerned about the other kids out there
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 22nd August 2008 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
i posted about pe vasu's comments on kamal, which was totally wrong and also unnessesary.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 22nd August 2008 01:12 AM
[Full View]
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
I wonder why! There is something wrong!
neenga innum kindergarden kku pogaliyaa??
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From: Nasc
on 22nd August 2008 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
I wonder why! There is something wrong!
I guess u hv the same right to do so too.not sure wats stopping u and later complaining on others!!!!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
I wonder why! There is something wrong!
I guess u hv the same right to do so too.not sure wats stopping u and later complaining on others!!!!
It's just that we don't care much abt it anymore, so there hasn't been a reason for us to initiate a comparison for quite some years now... :P
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 02:15 AM
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Yeah, new hubbers dont know our potential I suppose!
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 02:23 AM
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Bay, exactly. We know our strengths, weeknesses and limitations too well and don't feel the need to put down other actors to prove our worth and we call a spade, a spade
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nasc
I guess u hv the same right to do so too.not sure wats stopping u and later complaining on others!!!!
What is stopping?!
Talk to some old-timers!
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From: Dasavatharan
on 22nd August 2008 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
thamiz
sakala: Yeah I am going to kindergarten!
if thats the case u better try to do kindrgarden in correspondence(distance education).
i am concerned about the other kids out there
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From: ajithfederer
on 22nd August 2008 03:24 AM
[Full View]
Originally Posted by
Dasavatharan
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
thamiz
sakala: Yeah I am going to kindergarten!
if thats the case u better try to do kindrgarden in correspondence(distance education).
i am concerned about the other kids out there
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From: Movie Cop
on 22nd August 2008 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
i posted about pe vasu's comments on kamal, which was totally wrong and also unnessesary.
For a change, I didn't see anything wrong in Pee Vaashu's comment on Aandavar & RK.
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
i posted about pe vasu's comments on kamal, which was totally wrong and also unnessesary.
For a change, I didn't see anything wrong in Pee Vaashu's comment on Aandavar & RK.
Me neither!
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 04:20 AM
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sakala: That is not a "garden"!
Look! Everybody is laughing at your "kiddish spelling"!
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From: Dasavatharan
on 22nd August 2008 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
sakala: That is not a "garden"!
Look! Everybody is laughing at your "kiddish spelling"!
Thamiz,
You are ultimate!!!. How do you keep on doing this?
Keezhey vizhundhaalum meesaiyil mann ottavillai
Everyone reading the post will know why we are
Keep going with your entertainment
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From: omega
on 22nd August 2008 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Bay, exactly. We know our strengths, weeknesses and limitations too well and don't feel the need to put down other actors to prove our worth and we call a spade, a spade
We don't need it.
Guys don't fall in the trap. There are quite a few silently waiting for that small oppurtunity to jump in. The ground work is being laid by others though!!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 22nd August 2008 06:40 AM
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pee vasu's comment, i dont want to delve further as it will really get hot. but athu thapputhan.
as kamal says sometimes, naangal sumara odum enru ninaithu edukkum padadm romba nalla odum, naanga nichayam vetripadadmnu nenaicthu eduppom, athu tholvi perum...
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 07:37 AM
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How on this earth .. Mods.. approved this thread !!
asking for blood bath ?
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From: Nasc
on 22nd August 2008 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
pee vasu's comment, i dont want to delve further as it will really get hot. but athu thapputhan.
as kamal says sometimes, naangal sumara odum enru ninaithu edukkum padadm romba nalla odum, naanga nichayam vetripadadmnu nenaicthu eduppom, athu tholvi perum...
exactly....kamal is in a totally different league and i bet vasu knows nothing abt kamal's thot process.ivaru rajni vechu padam panitaraam,ivarey rajni pera vechu inthamari interviews ku oosi ticket vangravaru.
vaachu has commented as thou he knows wat kamal thinks...he shud hv said 'i guess 'and then his view.
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From: Nasc
on 22nd August 2008 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Nerd
Why is it that kamal fans always start this rajini Vs kamal thingi? Today also it was sakala who posted something
I wonder why! There is something wrong!
I guess u hv the same right to do so too.not sure wats stopping u and later complaining on others!!!!
It's just that we don't care much abt it anymore, so there hasn't been a reason for us to initiate a comparison for quite some years now... :P
u just dont care!!!!!!doesnt look thou...
but yea i'd reiterate there shud not be any comparisions...as i hv always felt pure genius will stand for eternity.just an anology -its a leanardo ,benini,aristotle or a newton who are remembered now and not the famous, loved king, or senate etc wat so ever of their times...
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
Dilbert
How on this earth .. Mods.. approved this thread !!
asking for blood bath ?
enNa sila mods -um kamal fanatics aiche
seekiram poota podungappa
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From: sarna_blr
on 22nd August 2008 02:30 PM
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
enNa romba jaaly-a irkeenga pola
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From: sarna_blr
on 22nd August 2008 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
enNa romba jaaly-a irkeenga pola
ippadhaan ennOda pOst unga kanla pattadhaa
Captain thread'la oru pOst'kumE reply pannala
BTW, that
for ur 1st line in the previous post
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 02:43 PM
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athu enNapa etho footbool 'league', rugby 'league', indian premier 'league' endru ellam pesuranga??
athena antha paramaragasiyamaana league?
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From: sarna_blr
on 22nd August 2008 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
athu enNapa etho footbool 'league', rugby 'league', indian premier 'league' endru ellam pesuranga??
athena antha paramaragasiyamaana league?
good reply
but engalukku Captain'naa adhu Vijayakanth dhaan
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
Originally Posted by
Raghu
athu enNapa etho footbool 'league', rugby 'league', indian premier 'league' endru ellam pesuranga??
athena antha paramaragasiyamaana league?
good reply
but engalukku Captain'naa adhu Vijayakanth dhaan
ok paa Captain would lead this 'league', appo than captain thamiz naatila evavlavu 'league' irukenna bio data koduparu
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From: sarna_blr
on 22nd August 2008 03:12 PM
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Vittaa indha thread'Oda nOkkaththayE maaththiduveenga pOla irukkE
and let us go back to the topic
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 04:28 PM
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yabaada oru mathiri ellaraiyum intha thread pakkam varaamal oodavaithuviten
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 06:07 PM
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In Saamy function, Rajini said: "You should be your only competition. For each one of you, your earlier films must be the benchmark to overcome" or something along those lines.
In the SIngapore function, when Kamal & Rajini were on stage together, Kamal said: "Rajini once wanted to pack up everything and just quit. and I said to him - you can't just leave in the middle of the GAME."
So one can clearly see the difference in their outlooks. For Rajini, he is at a stage where the motivation comes from inside. He is clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi about how long it would take him to make what Kamal was making!
For Kamal, it is his fiercely competitive spirit that sustains him and his art....
and these attitudes spill over to their fans as well.
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nasc
...
but yea i'd reiterate there shud not be any comparisions...as i hv always felt pure genius will stand for eternity.just an anology -its a leanardo ,benini,aristotle or a newton who are remembered now and not the famous, loved king, or senate etc wat so ever of their times...
And the mark of a genius is withstanding the test of time. There have been several criteria that were thought to be those of genius, but they simply did not withstand the test of time.
One example is there was a time when "over emoting" was considered good acting. Now it is the opposite - it is subtleness. This is just one example.
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From: salaam_chennai
on 22nd August 2008 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
you can just leave in the middle of the GAME."
typo. it is can't and not can.
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
salaam_chennai
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
you can just leave in the middle of the GAME."
typo. it is can't and not can.
Right. Thanks, salaam
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
One example is there was a time when "over emoting" was considered good acting. Now it is the opposite - it is subtleness. This is just one example.
But thalaivar munnOkku paarvai udayavar. Even in the 70s he preferred subtleness over loudness. And he was extremely successful.
avargaL - A stark contrast to loud/nauseating villains of those/these days. Hardly seen better subtle villainic performances.
muLLum malarum - The bro-sis relationship was not loudly portrayed if you know what I mean. Again subtlety is the key.
Ipdi sollikittE pOgalAm.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
So one can clearly see the difference in their outlooks. For Rajini, he is at a stage where the motivation comes from inside. He is clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi about how long it would take him to make what Kamal was making!
For Kamal, it is his fiercely competitive spirit that sustains him and his art....
and these attitudes spill over to their fans as well.
aamaaa.....he was competing with rajni when he won national award in kalathoor kannamma
he acted in anbe sivam,mahanadhi type movies to compete with types of badsha,muthu.
u mean kamal provied quality movies due to competitive sprit?....who is his competer in 90s to provide quality movies?
what did u mean by rajni sridevi...wondered?
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
One example is there was a time when "over emoting" was considered good acting. Now it is the opposite - it is subtleness. This is just one example.
But thalaivar munnOkku paarvai udayavar. Even in the 70s he preferred subtleness over loudness. And he was extremely successful.
avargaL - A stark contrast to loud/nauseating villains of those/these days. Hardly seen better subtle villainic performances.
muLLum malarum - The bro-sis relationship was not loudly portrayed if you know what I mean. Again subtlety is the key.
Ipdi sollikittE pOgalAm.
Why stop only at villains, for that matter some of the main stream actors where "Over Emoting" in 70s !! The only difference between Thaliavar and other was... He never let go of his uniqueness ! no matter what role he played. No matter what critics and fellow actors had/have to say.
Style - Samrat
Athiradee - Mannan
Thanga Thaliavan
The next Best thing in Indian Politics
Thaliva Sonal keal New Delhi duram illai!!
:P
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 07:39 PM
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Dilb bro, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave dhooramillai
And let's take our discussion to thalaivar threads and stop posting in this meaningless thread
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:41 PM
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lordu labakudas,
infact rajnis vehicle runs with competitiveness....he competes with even todays heroes for his box office power.
for kamal,whom do u think is the competition?...
rajniyoda only advantage...bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu...for kamal his immortal skill and capability to make a record breaking blockbusters at will.
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 07:42 PM
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pongaiya poi sothuku vazhiyaparunga
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Dilb bro, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave dhooramillai
And let's take our discussion to thalaivar threads and stop posting in this meaningless thread
enga andha postunala ellarum rajniya vechu kaamedy pannuvangalonu bayamaaa?
lol
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From: Ramakrishna
on 22nd August 2008 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
pongaiya poi sothuku vazhiyaparunga
inga sothukku illaama yaar irukkaa
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
pongaiya poi sothuku vazhiyaparunga
correctu...rajni arasiyaluku varanum...adhuvum delhi arasiyaluku(
) varanumnu aasapadravangukku idhuthan sariyana answer
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
lordu labakudas,
bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu....
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
Raghu
pongaiya poi sothuku vazhiyaparunga
inga sothukku illaama yaar irukkaa
Ram KanNa , naa anaiku sonthathan enaikum,inaiku sonathathan enaikum solven
athihama pseinaa Captain-a koopida pore
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
lordu labakudas,
bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu....
ipdithan oore sirikudhu...
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From: thamiz
on 22nd August 2008 07:48 PM
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Yeah the block buster subramaniayapuram never will make as much as kuselan made overall! Tha tis the bo power of super*!
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From: Ramakrishna
on 22nd August 2008 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
Raghu
pongaiya poi sothuku vazhiyaparunga
inga sothukku illaama yaar irukkaa
Ram KanNa , naa anaiku sonthathan enaikum,inaiku sonathathan enaikum solven
athihama pseinaa
Captain-a koopida pore
Captain Dhoni ethuku?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Yeah the block buster subramaniayapuram never will make as much as kuselan made overall! Tha tis the bo power of super*!
ammani,
kuselan and subramaniyapuram ethana theatrela release aachunnu theriyuma?
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
lordu labakudas,
infact rajnis vehicle runs with competitiveness....he competes with even todays heroes for his box office power.
Any movie has to compete with other movies - you are confusing this with the actor's attitude.
When Padayappa's records were spoken about, what was the existing benchmark? (Basha/Muthu)
When CM's records were spoken about, what was the benchmark? (Padayappa)
When Shivaji's records were spoken about, what was the benchmark? (CM)
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
for kamal,whom do u think is the competition?...
rajniyoda only advantage...bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu...for kamal his immortal skill and capability to make a record breaking blockbusters at will.
paravaayillai - bo power oru advantage-nnu othukireengalee! guest role-a vechu eppadi 'aapu'nnu mudivu panneenga?!?
"at will"?!? sari sari
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
lordu labakudas,
infact rajnis vehicle runs with competitiveness....he competes with even todays heroes for his box office power.
Any movie has to compete with other movies - you are confusing this with the actor's attitude.
When Padayappa's records were spoken about, what was the existing benchmark? (Basha/Muthu)
idhuthan rajnifansta iruka oru palakkam....avaru padatha thavira endha padamum odadhunu nenaikuradhu
as far as i remember
padayappa broke Indians record
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
lordu labakudas,
bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu....
thamiz,
leave it pa, silence is the answer to all.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
for kamal,whom do u think is the competition?...
rajniyoda only advantage...bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu...for kamal his immortal skill and capability to make a record breaking blockbusters at will.
paravaayillai - bo power oru advantage-nnu othukireengalee! guest role-a vechu eppadi 'aapu'nnu mudivu panneenga?!?
"at will"?!? sari sari
guest role-a?
so appa chandramukhi odunadhuku kaaranam jothika...yenna adhulayum kita thatta guest rolethana
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
... He is clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi about how long it would take him to make what Kamal was making! ...
...
what did u mean by rajni sridevi...wondered?
Rajini once mentioned that during the shooting of Moondru Mudichu, Kamal, being an established star by then, would be subject to all the honor and ubasarippu; Rajini & Sri Devi, being relatively new faces, would wonder during the breaks about how big a star Kamal was, how much he would be earning, when (or if) they would attain that status etc.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
For Rajini, he is at a stage where the motivation comes from inside. He is clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi about how long it would take him to make what Kamal was making!
For Kamal, it is his fiercely competitive spirit that sustains him and his art....
.
..
what did u mean by rajni sridevi...wondered?
Rajini once mentioned that during the shooting of Moondru Mudichu, Kamal, being an established star by then, would be subject to all the honor and ubasarippu; Rajini & Sri Devi, being relatively new faces, would wonder during the breaks about how big a star Kamal was, how much he would be earning, when (or if) they would attain that status etc.
lol
ur example contradicts ur own point...u said his motivation comes from inside and posted the example of how rajni wondered abt getting the status of kamal
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
...
For Kamal, it is his fiercely competitive spirit that sustains him and his art....
and these attitudes spill over to their fans as well.
aamaaa.....he was competing with rajni when he won national award in kalathoor kannamma
he acted in anbe sivam,mahanadhi type movies to compete with types of badsha,muthu.
u mean kamal provied quality movies due to competitive sprit?....who is his competer in 90s to provide quality movies?
I did not say he was competing only with Rajini.
For Dasavatharam, how did Kamal arrive at the magic number 10? All 10 characters were very critical to the story? Answer this question honestly! You will find your answer there.
I think Charu mentioned this: Kamal has been competing with the 2 'Shivaji's: NT Shivaji and Shivaji Rao Gaekwad...
Once again, I am not saying competitiveness is a bad trait at all. (I live in the US
). I am just saying this is key to understanding the fans...
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:02 PM
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i would definitely accept that he is competing with his mentor sivaji and wants to be achieve whatever his mentor has achieved.
adhu nallathuthana?
without that competitiveness...how could he sit in the make up room for hours daily
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
For Rajini, he is at a stage where the motivation comes from inside. He is clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi about how long it would take him to make what Kamal was making!
For Kamal, it is his fiercely competitive spirit that sustains him and his art....
.
..
what did u mean by rajni sridevi...wondered?
Rajini once mentioned that during the shooting of Moondru Mudichu, Kamal, being an established star by then, would be subject to all the honor and ubasarippu; Rajini & Sri Devi, being relatively new faces, would wonder during the breaks about how big a star Kamal was, how much he would be earning, when (or if) they would attain that status etc.
lol
ur example contradicts ur own point...u said his motivation comes from inside and posted the example of how rajni wondered abt getting the status of kamal
Please read carefully:
For Rajini, he
is at a stage where the motivation comes from inside. He is
clearly come past the stage where he wondered with Sri Devi
I HAVE mentioned the two different stages and his different attitudes during them.
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 08:05 PM
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Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:06 PM
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i dont understand why u think his motivation comes from inside?
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
for kamal,whom do u think is the competition?...
rajniyoda only advantage...bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu...for kamal his immortal skill and capability to make a record breaking blockbusters at will.
paravaayillai - bo power oru advantage-nnu othukireengalee! guest role-a vechu eppadi 'aapu'nnu mudivu panneenga?!?
"at will"?!? sari sari
guest role-a?
so appa chandramukhi odunadhuku kaaranam jothika...yenna adhulayum kita thatta guest rolethana
yes, Jothika was the reason for CM and for Dasa
MALIKA SHERWAT thaan karanam.
CM la best scene was VETTAIYAN
I dont understand one thing when SS and Kamal are best friends why are his fans arguing like fools?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
adhellam purinja neenga yen rajni fana iruka poreenga
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
for kamal,whom do u think is the competition?...
rajniyoda only advantage...bo power...adhukum aapu adichachu...for kamal his immortal skill and capability to make a record breaking blockbusters at will.
paravaayillai - bo power oru advantage-nnu othukireengalee! guest role-a vechu eppadi 'aapu'nnu mudivu panneenga?!?
"at will"?!? sari sari
guest role-a?
so appa chandramukhi odunadhuku kaaranam jothika...yenna adhulayum kita thatta guest rolethana
yes, Jothika was the reason for CM and for Dasa
MALIKA SHERWAT thaan karanam.
CM la best scene was VETTAIYAN
I dont understand one thing when SS and Kamal are best friends why are his fans arguing like
fools?
now u will know who is a fool and who is not!
lordu labakudass said
1.kuselan film had rajni in guest role.so the flop shouldnt be attibuted completely to rajni
i said
2.cm also had rajni in guiest role...so its success couldnt be attributed directly to rajni..
adhukulla neengala poondhu..neengala pesi...shabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
u r proving
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
adhellam purinja neenga yen rajni fana iruka poreenga
idhellAm rembbbba overu.. Making fun of a whole group. Certainly in bad taste.
I repeat, rajini fans please don't encourage the arguments here, keep away from garbage. Humble request
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 08:14 PM
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So GUYS can we all conclude
MALLIKA SHERAWAT was the reason for DASA's Success and put an end to it
nerd,
U know i dont get into arguments at all, but this is just too much againts SS, just too much
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:14 PM
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even i hate this thread...un necessary comparison.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
So GUYS can we all conclude MALLIKA SHERAWAT was the reason for DASA's Success and put an end to it
i think neenga actualla 1 role mattum than kandupichurukeenga...
actually kamal has did 10 roles in the movie...poi parunga...enna..... :
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
adhellam purinja neenga yen rajni fana iruka poreenga
Thats ok We don't , you are Kamal hassar's fan rite.. pl enlighten me.. bro.
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Raghu
So GUYS can we all conclude MALLIKA SHERAWAT was the reason for DASA's Success and put an end to it
i think neenga actualla 1 role mattum than kandupichurukeenga...
actually kamal has did 10 roles in the movie...poi parunga...enna..... :
padam pathutenaiya, 2nd day of release-la , UK la ulla cineworld -la
nalla satham potu enjoy paninen, enNa cinema -la naa oruthun thaan pa
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
adhellam purinja neenga yen rajni fana iruka poreenga
Thats ok We don't , you are Kamal hassar's fan rite.. pl enlighten me.. bro.
idhallam sollapaduvadhu illai....unarthapaduvadhu!
simplea sollanumna
watch guna,salangai oli,sippikul muthu,mahanadhi
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Raghu
So GUYS can we all conclude MALLIKA SHERAWAT was the reason for DASA's Success and put an end to it
i think neenga actualla 1 role mattum than kandupichurukeenga...
actually kamal has did 10 roles in the movie...poi parunga...enna..... :
padam pathutenaiya, 2nd day of release-la , UK la ulla cineworld -la
nalla satham potu enjoy paninen, enNa cinema -la naa oruthun thaan pa
adhu ok
in chennai kuselan was replaced by jk ritheesh nayagan
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 08:27 PM
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I loved Salagai Oli, and Sirpikuzh muthu, Excellent acting by Kamal, Great songs by Dr.IR
Awsome rendertion by the GREATEST SINGER THAT INDIA HAD EVER PRODUCED DR.SPB
I loved 'Sirpiirukuthu muthum irukuth' by Dr.SPB & SJ
and 'Raaja vinodhangal nadana santhoshangal' by Dr.SPB & SJ
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Vivasaayi Bro..
What is that Immortal Skill Thingy you are talking about ?
adhellam purinja neenga yen rajni fana iruka poreenga
Thats ok We don't , you are Kamal hassar's fan rite.. pl enlighten me.. bro.
idhallam sollapaduvadhu illai....unarthapaduvadhu!
simplea sollanumna
watch guna,salangai oli,sippikul muthu,mahanadhi
These were good some were even great - you missed anbea sivam..(one of my personal fav) watz you are point.. whatz that immortal skill and these movies got to do?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:33 PM
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dilbert,
ungaluku enna "needhi kadhaigal " maadhiri kadaisiya moral of the story sonnathan othukuveengala?
i just mentioned there that there is no competition for kamal at present in acting skills.
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 08:35 PM
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u see the main diff with kamal fanatics and Rajni fans (we)
we accept so many things about Kamal's greatness, we watch his movies, we like it or dislike it,, but these kamal fanatics so blinded, they can NEVER APPRECIATE any one else but their hero..
hmm, Ignorance is a bliss indeed
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:36 PM
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raghu,
kamal fans have appreciated rajni many times...and u can check it with the regular rajni fans here
ellathayum avasara patte pesa vendiyadhu.
everything that rajni had for praise was lost in late eighties...with few movies in exception like thalapathi.
what can they praise after watching sivaji?
may be when kamal fans watch thillu mullu,johhny ,thalapathy on tv...they would post abt his talent
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From: Dilbert
on 22nd August 2008 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
dilbert,
ungaluku enna "needhi kadhaigal " maadhiri kadaisiya moral of the story sonnathan othukuveengala?
i just mentioned there
that there is no l competition for kamal at present in acting skills.
abbhaa.. to make this point , you made all these loaded statement(s) .. I thought you are trying to enlighten us with something which we missed for some many years.. ..
aama , aama, Yes, even I agree no one can compete with him in acting.. especially in emotional / romantic scences my top picks..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Dilbert
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
dilbert,
ungaluku enna "needhi kadhaigal " maadhiri kadaisiya moral of the story sonnathan othukuveengala?
i just mentioned there
that there is no l competition for kamal at present in acting skills.
abbhaa.. to make this point , you made all these loaded statement(s) .. I thought you are trying to enlighten us with something which we missed for some many years.. ..
aama , aama, Yes, even I agree no one can compete with him in acting.. especially in emotional / romantic scences my top picks..
naan onnum athana statements idha pathi post panlaye
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 22nd August 2008 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
i would definitely accept that he is competing with his mentor sivaji and wants to be achieve whatever his mentor has achieved.
adhu nallathuthana?
without that competitiveness...how could he sit in the make up room for hours daily
Happaa - ithai thaan naanum solreen. ennoda avathar-ai paarthavudanee naan "anti-kamal"nnu mudivu pannreenga!!!
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From: Raghu
on 22nd August 2008 09:00 PM
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so Vivasayi,
Which Rajni movies did you like then?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
so Vivasayi,
Which Rajni movies did you like then?
johnny,thillu mullu,thambiku endha ooru,thee,guru shishyan,thalapathy,veera,mannan,aval apadithan,mullum malarum
not in any particular order
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 10:23 PM
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Guru Sishyan???????:P johnny,thillu mullu,mullum malarum.thalapathy are so good..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sid_316
Guru Sishyan???????:P johnny,thillu mullu,mullum malarum.thalapathy are so good..
guru shishyan for pure fun ...
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From: ajithfederer
on 22nd August 2008 10:27 PM
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A movie for pure fun
.
Originally Posted by
Sid_316
Guru Sishyan???????:P
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 10:28 PM
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i've been seeing his good movies lately.. so sad that he has to always act in commerical films.. he is like a wasted talent imo.. he could have been a very good actor
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 10:31 PM
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Need more recommendations?
Commercial movies are not bad at all. We, rajini fans do not mind.
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 10:33 PM
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yea tell me some good movies nerd
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 10:37 PM
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Rajini:
Billa, Netrikkan, Thee, Moondru Mugam, Nallavanukku Nallavan, Padikkaathavan, Thalapathy, Baasha, Padayappa
Kamal:
Oru Kaithiyin Diary, Kaaki Chattai, Nayagan, Aboorva Sagotharargal, Devar Magan, Indian, Vetayaadu Vilayaadu
Just the ones that come to mind at once... I know there's a lot of other ones that I absolutely enjoy as well! :P
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From: Movie Cop
on 22nd August 2008 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sid_316
Guru Sishyan???????:P johnny,thillu mullu,mullum malarum.thalapathy are so good..
Guru Sishyan is a hilarious movie. It's a movie that show cases RK's penchant for comedy! It's one movie you could watch umpteen # of times without getting bored (a la Aboorva Sagothargal)
Not just RK but the whole gang of Cho, Vinoo Chakravarthy, Manorama & Prabhu had me in splits!
Thanks for reminding me, I want to revisit this movie soon to decompress some work/life tension! :P
P.S: Though I mentioned about AS here (I just mentioned it as a comparison for entertainment) - I didn't mean to put these 2 movies on the same pedestal. I know that AS is way, way superior than GS in terms of lead role performance, screenplay & technical brilliance!
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 10:38 PM
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avargaL, moonRu mudichu, avaL appadithAn, gayathri, thappu thaaLangaL, bhuvana oru ?
avargaL, MM VCDs are widely available. Gayathri is not available anywhere AFAIK. Raj digital plus used to air it.
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 10:41 PM
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My favourite Rajini movies
Thillu Mullu (All time fav)
Aval appadi thaan
Mullum Malarum
puvana oru kelVikuRi
NetriKan
Annamalai
Tharmathin thalaivan
Thalapathi
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
Sid_316
Guru Sishyan???????:P johnny,thillu mullu,mullum malarum.thalapathy are so good..
Guru Sishyan is a hilarious movie. It's a movie that show cases RK's penchant for comedy! It's one movie you could watch umpteen # of times without getting bored (a la Aboorva Sagothargal)
Not just RK but the whole gang of Cho, Vinoo Chakravarthy, Manorama & Prabhu had me in splits!
Thanks for reminding me, I want to revisit this movie soon to decompress some work/life tension! :P
P.S: Though I mentioned about AS here (I just mentioned it as a comparison for entertainment) - I didn't mean to put these 2 movies on the same pedestal. I know that AS is way, way superior than GS in terms of lead role performance, screenplay & technical brilliance!
oh ! i shud give a revisit to GS then.. Commerical movies are not bad at all .. but his movies for the past decade have been mainly based on his "superstar" image ... i simply miss the good ol Rajini
i havent watched Kuselan yet though
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From: ajithfederer
on 22nd August 2008 10:44 PM
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Velaikaran is missing, perhaps
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Rajini:
Billa, Netrikkan, Thee, Moondru Mugam, Nallavanukku Nallavan, Padikkaathavan, Thalapathy, Baasha, Padayappa
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Velaikaran is missing, perhaps
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Rajini:
Billa, Netrikkan, Thee, Moondru Mugam, Nallavanukku Nallavan, Padikkaathavan, Thalapathy, Baasha, Padayappa
AF, there's obviously a whole lot of movies that I dint write down. If it helps, there's only a few Rajini movies that I "hate"... :P
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From: Movie Cop
on 22nd August 2008 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sid_316
oh ! i shud give a revisit to GS then..
Yes, go watch GS! Except for first half hour which shows some flashback etc. - the rest of the movie is a laugh riot!
It should be a good stress buster!
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Velaikaran is missing, perhaps
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Rajini:
Billa, Netrikkan, Thee, Moondru Mugam, Nallavanukku Nallavan, Padikkaathavan, Thalapathy, Baasha, Padayappa
AF, there's obviously a whole lot of movies that I dint write down. If it helps, there's only a few Rajini movies that I "hate"... :P
That would be a good exercise bay
thaai meedhu sathiyam, nAttukku oru nallavan .. Well more later!
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From: ajithfederer
on 22nd August 2008 10:54 PM
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I was referring Velaikaran because i believe it belongs to this same genre of movies as below
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Velaikaran is missing, perhaps
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Rajini:
Billa, Netrikkan, Thee, Moondru Mugam, Nallavanukku Nallavan, Padikkaathavan, Thalapathy, Baasha, Padayappa
AF, there's obviously a whole lot of movies that I dint write down. If it helps, there's only a few Rajini movies that I "hate"... :P
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 10:54 PM
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i forgot one movie which is one of most fav movies for its fun factor...
kodi parakudhu
ice creaaaaamuuuuuuuuuuuu...
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
That would be a good exercise bay :lol:
thaai meedhu sathiyam, nAttukku oru nallavan .. Well more later!
The ones that I hate(d)... Only the ones that I can remember from the recent times!
* Kuselan
* Sivaji
* Baba
* Veera
* Uzhaipali
* Ejamaan
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 10:58 PM
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when everybody rate Badsha too high ,IMO ,Annamalai is better than Badsha ,i don't know why?
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
i forgot one movie which is one of most fav movies for its fun factor...
kodi parakudhu
ice creaaaaamuuuuuuuuuuuu...
I love that movie! Except the scenes when Sujatha comes...
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From: Nerd
on 22nd August 2008 11:02 PM
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veerA
I feel that movie is very underrated. Ejamaan is very melodramatic. UzhaippALi has some good comedy and a good 2nd half. Baba, kusElan no comments. I liked sivaji
Joe, I like aNNAmalai better than bAtshA, but bAtshA is like the perfect game for rajini, the super star.
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 11:03 PM
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Can we also have some hardcore Kamal fans share some of his movies that they hated? :P :P
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 11:04 PM
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Veera is not at all bad ..songs and comedy is enjoyable.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 11:05 PM
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veera the last rajni-ir combo
what beautiful songs
malaikovil vaasalil - whataaaaaaaa song
cute meena
good comedy by rajni-senthil
nice sentimental scenes...a rare thing in masala movies
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Veera is not at all bad ..songs and comedy is enjoyable.
For some reason, I thought that movie was too vulgar, amidst all the good things you guys are listing!
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 11:06 PM
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I have softcorner for Tharmathin thalaivan .Somehow i liked the innocent comedy of Rajini and 'then madurai vaigai nathi' is my personal fav.
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 11:06 PM
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Maharasan Defn.. Some of his old movies like sakalakala vallavan , per sollum pillai kind of movies... i didnt like VV in the recent times ... but these movies are defn watchable
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 11:06 PM
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kamal films i hated?
infact i hate none of his movies post 90 honestly
to name a few in his career
soora samharam
kadhal parisu
jappanil kalyanaraman
few early eightees masalas
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe
I have softcorner for Tharmathin thalaivan .Somehow i liked the innocent comedy of Rajini and 'then madurai vaigai nathi' is my personal fav.
Now that's an under-rated movie, but a really good one!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
kamal films i hated?
infact i hate none of his movies post 90 honestly
to name a few in his career
soora samharam
kadhal parisu
jappanil kalyanaraman
few early eightees masalas
This thread is becoming very authentic now!
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 11:07 PM
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yea 90's lam chance illa... most of them are so awesome
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 22nd August 2008 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
kamal films i hated?
infact i hate none of his movies post 90 honestly
It's the other way round for me... I like a lot of his movies from the 70s and 80s! :P
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sid_316
Maharasan Defn.. Some of his old movies like sakalakala vallavan , per sollum pillai kind of movies... i didnt like VV in the recent times ... but these movies are defn watchable
maharasana?
that was very similar to guru shishyan...pure unadulterated fun.
two peope kamal and gavunder...what more?
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From: Sid_316
on 22nd August 2008 11:11 PM
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but the jokes aint that good right???? cheesy kind of.. i watched it a long time back..so maybe i shud give it a visit again.. Gounder and Kamal wud rock though
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 11:12 PM
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Some kamal movies i hated..
Mangamma sapatham
Alavutheenum arputha viLakkum
Naanum oru thozhilaLi
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From: Vivasaayi
on 22nd August 2008 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
kamal films i hated?
infact i hate none of his movies post 90 honestly
It's the other way round for me... I like a lot of his movies from the 70s and 80s! :P
exactly the same thing applies to me regarding rajni movies
i like his movies in 70s and early eighties .
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 11:26 PM
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After NT and kamal ,my next favourite actor is Rajini (excluding non-hero actors like MRRadha,Nagesh)
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From: jaiganes
on 22nd August 2008 11:45 PM
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I am not much for Rajini movies - but rajini in movies is a special thing. There is something about thamizh film directors who miss a whole lot of aesthetics when it comes to rajini movie - they think that merely projecting him is enough. However there have been some directors who have not relaxed just because Rajini is in a movie.
K. Balachander made Thappu thaalangaL and Thillu mullu with Rajini and yet the whole movie was throughly enjoyable - What with Rajini playing nicely along with saritha in Thappu th thaalangal.
Netrikkann comes next - with Rajini being his villainous best, at his comic best and as the son underplaying and getting the subtle portions right too.
Moondru mugam is one film where Rajini as an actor scores high with Alex Paandiyan while the movie flounders limping on mainly due to scary villainy by Sendhaamarai (who was at his villainous best opposite Rajini in Un Kannil neer vazhindhaal - a balu mahendra movie).
I am excluding Mullum Malarum and Johnny - they are above and beyond comparing with any other movies as 'Rajini movies'.
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From: joe
on 22nd August 2008 11:52 PM
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It is sad that Mahendran never did a movie with kamal ,though kamal was his close friend even before mahandran became director .
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From: Nasc
on 23rd August 2008 12:13 AM
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1 kamal movie that I have seen and hate to the core....
Pattaam Poochi - well it was his early days and was willing to do anything(any characters) to prove his worth
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From: Movie Cop
on 23rd August 2008 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
when everybody rate Badsha too high ,IMO ,Annamalai is better than Badsha ,i don't know why?
Bulls eye!
Annamalai is >>> than Baasha, IMO.
Be it style, punch dialogues or even screenplay Annamalai was way too better than Baasha! When I revisited Baasha like a year or so back, I was
most of the time and put me to sleep except for RK/Raguvaran encounters (flashback)!
But that's not the case with Annamalai even today it's entertaining to it's fullest sense!
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From: Movie Cop
on 23rd August 2008 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
It is sad that Mahendran never did a movie with kamal ,though kamal was his close friend even before mahandran became director .
Mahendran did mention in one of his interviews in DD that his biggest regret was not getting to direct Aandavar!
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From: irir123
on 23rd August 2008 07:10 AM
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Mahendran was to have directed "Meedum Gokila" but it didnt work - and he was replaced by GNR (?)
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From: MADDY
on 23rd August 2008 08:06 AM
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Mahendran & meendum gokila
.....wouldnt have worked
.....johnny was sort of a sleepy comedy, and mullum malarum/nenjathhai killadhey comedy scenes are not what u call hilarious.........meendum gokila required hilarious comedy
Nayagan,MMKR for kamal and Moondru mudichhu, dhalabadhy for rajini remains my top favs
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From: NOV
on 23rd August 2008 08:45 AM
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From: Nerd
on 23rd August 2008 09:03 AM
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You know NOV, there are so many messages even in the last 3-4 *clean* pages (like MC's bAtshA-sleep-inducing comment
) that sorta pushed me to hit the quote and reply buttons but I just let go
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From: Dilbert
on 23rd August 2008 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
Joke of the Year !! goes to this postu!!!
Looks like Nov Suitcase vaangeetar poola..
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 23rd August 2008 09:20 AM
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IMO Baadsha is not a sleep inducing movie
bur definitely below annamalai.I think Pandiyan is the first Rajni movie I was mad of.(Ma mom used to say I hum "Uyyalala.." song when i was a kid.I had watched all post-Valli(even valli) in theatres.But then the ones on TV are my favourites.
Kamal:
Nayagan
Vasool Raja(Somehow I like this movie very much,better than the original)
Anbe Sivam
Devar Magan
Sathya
Rajni:
Johny
Netrikann
Thillu Mullu
Mullum malarum
6-60
I haven't seen many classics of these legends.The ones I don't like:
PKS,nAnum oru thozilALi,andha oru nimidam,alavudIn,(some movie where he plays a drama artiste),sakalakalAvallavan,guNa(I dunno why I hate this movie),few more.
Valli,Baba,Dharmadurai,pOkiri rAja,athisaya piRavi,few more.
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From: Sid_316
on 23rd August 2008 11:21 AM
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O/T :y did mahendran stop directing ??
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From: Ramakrishna
on 23rd August 2008 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
(some movie where he plays a drama artiste)
Simla Special? Thats one of my fav Kamal movies.
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 23rd August 2008 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
(some movie where he plays a drama artiste)
Simla Special? Thats one of my fav Kamal movies.
No no,not that movie.I also like the movie..who can forget the Nandalala song?There's one movie with sridevi.Its horrible.I don't remember the plot also.I wathed one half and it was
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From: Ramakrishna
on 23rd August 2008 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
(some movie where he plays a drama artiste)
Simla Special? Thats one of my fav Kamal movies.
No no,not that movie.I also like the movie..who can forget the Nandalala song?There's one movie with sridevi.Its horrible.I don't remember the plot also.I wathed one half and it was
oh yeah....few days back it was shown on KTV i guess.
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From: pistha
on 23rd August 2008 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA
(some movie where he plays a drama artiste)
Simla Special? Thats one of my fav Kamal movies.
No no,not that movie.I also like the movie..who can forget the Nandalala song?There's one movie with sridevi.Its horrible.I don't remember the plot also.I wathed one half and it was
oh yeah....few days back it was shown on KTV i guess.
Thai Illamal Nan Illai I think so.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 23rd August 2008 12:45 PM
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From: breadpuli
on 23rd August 2008 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Can we also have some hardcore Kamal fans share some of his movies that they hated? :P :P
Hmmm... it will be a big list !!!
Aalavandan
Mumbai Xpres
Kalaignan (Indrajith)
Vratham (Malayalam)
Magarasan
Mangamma sapatham
Uyarnda Ullam (compared to the original)
Sankar Lal (watched from a 'dabba' theatre - that may be a reason)
if i think, the list will grow...
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From: dell_gt
on 23rd August 2008 02:23 PM
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great
Kamal sir movies that i,m crazy
1.Kuruthipunal (All-Time-Fav)
2.Sathya-Moorthy
3.Aboorva Sagothargal
4.Nayagan
5.Devar Magan
Dun Like
1.Soorasamsaram
Rajni sir movies that i,m crazy
1.Thalapathy
2.Annamalai
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From: omega
on 23rd August 2008 03:07 PM
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Thalaivar movies that I hate (atleast from the ones that I can recollect)....
1) Kaali
2) Minnal
3) Tiger
4) Naan Potta Savaal
5) Dharmayutham (other than songs)
6) Garjanai
7) Un Kannil NeerVazhinthaal (other than songs)
8) Thudikkum Karangal
9) Adhisayapiravi (other than few scenes)
10) Siva
11) Pandian
12) Naattukkoru Nallavan
13) Baaba
14) Kuselan (other than Thalaivar scenes)
15) Naan Adimai Illai
16) Viduthalai
17) Maaveeran
KH movies that I love the most
1) Salangai Oli
2) Raajapaarvai
3) Sippikkul Muthu
4) Ek Dhuje Keliye
5) Saagar
6) Nayagan
7) Indran Chandhran
8) Aboorva Sahotharahal
9) Guna
10) Devar Magan
11) Mahanadhi
12) Anbe Sivam
13) Sathileelavathi
14) MMKR
15) PKS
16) 10A (for the amount of effort)
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From: ajithfederer
on 24th August 2008 09:48 AM
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Kamal Sir's Various RECORDS!
Thalaivar's Varalaru Article for 22-08-2008!
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?i...17cni01hv5.jpg
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From: raaja_rasigan
on 24th August 2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
joe
when everybody rate Badsha too high ,IMO ,Annamalai is better than Badsha ,i don't know why?
Bulls eye!
Annamalai is >>> than Baasha, IMO.
Be it style, punch dialogues or even screenplay Annamalai was way too better than Baasha! When I revisited Baasha like a year or so back, I was
most of the time and put me to sleep except for RK/Raguvaran encounters (flashback)!
But that's not the case with Annamalai even today it's entertaining to it's fullest sense!
for me too... whenever they telecast Basha, I know the scenes to be watched & I'll try to catch it:
1) Medical college seat scene
2) Ullae po, interval block
3) Rajini + Raghuvarn scenes
But Annamalai.... everything is there, from a good story to Rajini style, sentiment everything.
Just one dialogue is enough:
"Malai da...... annamalai" & they show in escalator
awsome for Rajini.
When Rajini's house is demolished.. parkkave pavama irukkum. After becoming a big shot, he would think of his young days...
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From: Nerd
on 24th August 2008 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
omega
Thalaivar movies that I hate (atleast from the ones that I can recollect)....
5) Dharmayutham (other than songs)
Really? I remember liking it when I watched it first. Got hold of the DVD today. Going to watch it.
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From: Avadi to America
on 24th August 2008 09:09 PM
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Annamalai story closely resembels jeffery archers novel "Kane and Abel". As per my knowledge, Annamali is much greater than Baasha in terms of story, songs ( though i do not like Deva's music). But Baasha has provided more excitement to hardcore rajini fans especially the heroism, punch dialogues etc. In my all time best rajini movies list, i rank annamali before baasha.
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From: Thirumaran
on 25th August 2008 08:28 AM
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What a thread
Old memories
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From: Nerd
on 25th August 2008 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
What a thread
Old memories
Don't come to hasty conclusions. Read the last five pages :P
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From: cm123
on 25th August 2008 08:47 AM
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Annamalai was rajini's biggest hit ever from day one with every kind of audience .. I believe
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From: sarna_blr
on 25th August 2008 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
What a thread
Old memories
Many more happy returns of ur old memories
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From: Thirumaran
on 25th August 2008 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
What a thread
Old memories
Don't come to hasty conclusions. Read the last five pages :P
:P
Well Kamal movies i hate..
1. Raam Lakshman
2. Jappaanil Kalyaanaraman
3. Mangamma Sabatham
4. Vikram (Second half)
5. Mangamma Sabatham
6. Antha oru nimidam
7. Soora Samhaaram
There are several i did not see
There could be few in that.
Rajini movies that i like a lot
1. Thillu mullu
2. Baatsha
3. Annamalai
4. Mullum Malarum
5. Johny
6. Guru shishyan
7. Nallavanukku Nallavan
8. Anbulla Rajinikanth
9. Moondru Mudichu
10. Netrikan
There are some more :P
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From: sarna_blr
on 25th August 2008 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
1. Raam Lakshman
2. Jappaanil Kalyaanaraman
3. Mangamma Sabatham
4. Vikram (Second half)
5. Mangamma Sabatham
6. Antha oru nimidam
7. Soora Samhaaram
y do u hate mangamma sabadham 2 times
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From: Thirumaran
on 25th August 2008 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
y do u hate mangamma sabadham 2 times
Intha hub la aniyaayathukku vettiya irukeengannu adikadi prove panreenga
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From: hamid
on 25th August 2008 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
Annamalai story closely resembels jeffery archers novel "Kane and Abel".
Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
Well Kamal movies i hate..
1. Raam Lakshman
2. Jappaanil Kalyaanaraman
3. Mangamma Sabatham
4. Vikram (Second half)
5. Mangamma Sabatham
6. Antha oru nimidam
7. Soora Samhaaram
Mangamma Sabatham avvalo pidikkaathaa??
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From: Thirumaran
on 25th August 2008 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
hamid
Mangamma Sabatham avvalo pidikkaathaa??
This movie's climax was taken in my home town Arakonam. I did see Kamal and Sathyaraj during the shoot :P
Thadavaalathula Jeep oatura maathiri scene. Jeep nikka vachi kamal oata oru 10 feet kooda ozhunga poagaama niraya takes vaanguchu. Bore adichu veetikku kilambiyaachu
Appuram eppadi eduthaangannu therila
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From: sarna_blr
on 25th August 2008 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
y do u hate mangamma sabadham 2 times
Intha hub la aniyaayathukku vettiya irukeengannu adikadi prove panreenga
and then... wr wr u these days
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From: Thirumaran
on 25th August 2008 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
and then... wr wr u these days
//Dig
Pondy
//End Dig
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From: sarna_blr
on 25th August 2008 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
and then... wr wr u these days
//Dig
Pondy
//End Dig
and
for bolded words
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From: selvakumar
on 25th August 2008 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Just a general questions guys, everyone knows I am a Rajni fan, have you ever seen me ill talking kamal , have you ever seen me posting crap about kamal day and night,as if i have nothing else to do??
I never even pop into kamal thread , even though he was my 2nd fav actor during the 80's, but there are regular kamal Fanatics here, who for no appearant reason, stay awake at night like an owl, go thru google to find any crap about Rajni and constatnly post in Rajni thread to irritate rajnis fans, yet these mods turn a blind eye towards them
there was a nut case called 'COD' here couple of yrs back, he was utter nonsense, he was a kamal fanatic too, but the mods did not do anything about him
any way, carry on guys,
This is THE EXAMPLE for SIFY TYPE COMMENT. Commenting on a person who is not part of the hub anymore and who is NOT PART OF ANY KNOWN MEDIA !
Raghu,
Do you know one thing ? Anwar @ Cod is not visiting hub these days. He is not visiting our groups too.. It is quite embarrassing to see you commenting on a person who is not part of the hub any more.
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From: sarna_blr
on 25th August 2008 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Originally Posted by
Raghu
there was a nut case called 'COD' here couple of yrs back, he was utter nonsense, he was a kamal fanatic too, but the mods did not do anything about him
any way, carry on guys,
This is THE EXAMPLE for SIFY TYPE COMMENT. Commenting on a person who is not part of the hub anymore and who is NOT PART OF ANY KNOWN MEDIA !
Raghu,
Do you know one thing ? Anwar @ Cod is not visiting hub these days. He is not visiting our groups too..
It is quite embarrassing to see you commenting on a person who is not part of the hub any more.
yeah, its really embarrassing
and some even compare newbie hubbers with old hubbers who all are not part of the hub any more
my experience wn I was new to hub
nee avanaa
nee ivanaa
like this and here no-one cares
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From: lord_labakudoss
on 26th August 2008 10:30 PM
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People who fantasize about a Kamal-Rajini starrer always bring up Ponniyin Selvan.
I think Sholay (Rajini-Kamal-Shivaji) would have been better. Any other scripts that come to mind?
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From: Amarshiva
on 26th August 2008 10:41 PM
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John Travalto's "Face off to be remade" in tamil with KH & RK .. to be directed by Shankar/KSR..
Theatre adakalapadum enpathu unmai...
Originally Posted by
lord_labakudoss
People who fantasize about a Kamal-Rajini starrer always bring up Ponniyin Selvan.
I think Sholay (Rajini-Kamal-Shivaji) would have been better. Any other scripts that come to mind?
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From: Avadi to America
on 27th August 2008 02:35 AM
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Face off is my choice....
John travolta - rajini
nicholas cage - kamal.
In 80s, i guess, sujatha cine arts tried to rope rajini and kamal for sholay remake. somehow it did not materialise....
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From: Avadi to America
on 27th August 2008 02:40 AM
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Avadi to America wrote:
Annamalai story closely resembels jeffery archers novel "Kane and Abel".
@ hamid
This is my understanding after reading novel and watching movie upteen time
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From: Nasc
on 27th August 2008 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
Face off is my choice....
John travolta - rajini
nicholas cage - kamal.
In 80s, i guess, sujatha cine arts tried to rope rajini and kamal for sholay remake. somehow it did not materialise....
do u mean JT & NC - after the face change.I'd like Kamal take up the negative role.
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From: Avadi to America
on 27th August 2008 07:16 AM
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I mean to say the second half where John travolta become a bad guy. I expect this should be done by rajini.....I want to revisit the stylish villianeous rajini again.
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From: Nasc
on 27th August 2008 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
I mean to say the second half where John travolta become a bad guy. I expect this should be done by rajini.....I want to revisit the stylish villianeous rajini again.
yea Rajni wud be kewl once again as villian but after the rock solid show of Fletcher I wud like more of kamal the villian
- we hv to admit the villian role stole the show in face/off
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From: app_engine
on 4th September 2008 01:14 AM
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From: Movie Cop
on 4th September 2008 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Nov - is that true?
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From: NOV
on 4th September 2008 06:08 AM
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From: Thalafanz
on 4th September 2008 06:12 AM
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Hotel Istana???
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From: NOV
on 4th September 2008 06:16 AM
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why? its a 5-star hotel
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From: Thalafanz
on 4th September 2008 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
why? its a 5-star hotel
Yep. I meant I was roaming around there 2 days ago...
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From: Amarshiva
on 4th September 2008 06:43 PM
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We can recommend Terminator 3 or 2 ... Would be ideal.. ideally Rajni would play the baddy computer as he is thin, when compared kamal(good computer)..End of the movie, both of them are gonna be dead.. this would be widely accepted by both the fans.....
Ranakalam agum theatre.....
Originally Posted by
Nasc
Originally Posted by
Avadi to America
I mean to say the second half where John travolta become a bad guy. I expect this should be done by rajini.....I want to revisit the stylish villianeous rajini again.
yea Rajni wud be kewl once again as villian but after the rock solid show of Fletcher I wud like more of kamal the villian
- we hv to admit the villian role stole the show in face/off
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From: jaiganes
on 4th September 2008 08:40 PM
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no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
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From: ajithfederer
on 4th September 2008 08:43 PM
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All the multi hero starrers won't work at all. And even if they agree to act it will be a near to war kind of atmosphere in theatres. So it is safe to put the idea to rest. IMFO :P
Dig//
P.S: Talking about colloborations, Deniro and Al-Pacino's Righteous kill is releasing this month. Adhai paarthu makkal sandhosham peruvaargalaaga. dig ends//
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th September 2008 08:46 PM
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as i have already said
the good bad and ugly
rajni - villian
kamal- clint eastwood
satyaraj - tuco
by indianizing the story..
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From: Raghu
on 5th September 2008 02:35 PM
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Saripaa
Ramayanam in tamil
Rajni as Ravan :
Kamal as Raam
surya as lakshman
Simran seetha :P :P
ithu epadi iruku??
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 5th September 2008 02:52 PM
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Fight Club.
Kamal-Edward Norton,Rajni-Brad Pitt!
Or vice-versa...I'm sure it will rock the earth!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th September 2008 08:13 PM
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From: hamid
on 5th September 2008 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
http://vinojasan.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_3997.html
Sakala,
dont give importance to those articles..
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th September 2008 08:29 PM
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mmm, rajiniyai mathikkum kamal rasigan naan. but sila rajini raigargalukke kooda ithu comedy yaa thaan irukkum. kamal office lernthu phone paranthuchaam. athuvum yaarukku sifykkaam
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th September 2008 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
mmm, rajiniyai mathikkum kamal rasigan naan. but sila rajini raigargalukke kooda ithu comedy yaa thaan irukkum. kamal office lernthu phone paranthuchaam. athuvum yaarukku sifykkaam
ennenamo try pandrainga...
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From: hamid
on 5th September 2008 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
mmm, rajiniyai mathikkum kamal rasigan naan. but sila rajini raigargalukke kooda ithu comedy yaa thaan irukkum. kamal office lernthu phone paranthuchaam. athuvum yaarukku sifykkaam
Sakala,
both sides are always there.. thr r so many rajini fans who dont like kamal and kamal fans who dont like rajini..letz not react to those people and spoil the environment..
I am a Rajini rasikan.. I dont like tht article at all.. itz crap.. thats it..
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From: joe
on 5th September 2008 08:46 PM
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ada vidungappa
hope you read first comment there by me.
Vitta kamal Hassan oru kaththukutti nadigan-nnu solluvanga pola
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th September 2008 08:55 PM
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joe,
ur post got deleted it seems
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From: Nasc
on 5th September 2008 10:41 PM
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VENKIRAJA
Fight Club.
Kamal-Edward Norton,Rajni-Brad Pitt!
Or vice-versa...I'm sure it will rock the earth!
this was in my mind...but as both the actors play the same char...it didnt sound interesting for me.
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From: Nasc
on 5th September 2008 10:44 PM
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why not "The Dark Knight" ---sure wud need one hell of a director thou.Mani/Sankar seem the only choice
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 6th September 2008 11:39 AM
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Dark Knight?No,no
I bet on fight club.
It will sure be a treat.And who'll be that actress?I vote for simran!
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From: dell_gt
on 6th September 2008 12:24 PM
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no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "
The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
perfect roles for both legend
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From: Movie Cop
on 8th October 2008 07:18 AM
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Kamal Haasan playing a cameo role as a fake lawyer in "Thillu Mullu" climax! Pretty hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Tzs...eature=related
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From: thamiz
on 8th October 2008 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
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From: Movie Cop
on 8th October 2008 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
Thamizh,
Are you saying that KH is not up to the mark of De Niro or Pacino?
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 8th October 2008 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
I hate to use this icon, but now I have to:
I know De Niro and Al Pacino are great actors and all that, and I also see them being treated like Gods in this Hub, but I just don't see them as that great, and feel there are many other actors that have been and are as great if not better than them!
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From: jaiganes
on 8th October 2008 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
I hate to use this icon, but now I have to:
I know De Niro and Al Pacino are great actors and all that, and I also see them being treated like Gods in this Hub, but I just don't see them as that great, and feel there are many other actors that have been and are as great if not better than them!
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting. If you start comparing kollywood guys to them the effort is a monstrous attempt at ridicule.
These actors go to extreme extents to get the character they play and get it right upto the most minute facial expression and gait.
To be fair to our sivajis , kamals and rajinis, this requires time and compensation that is suitable and a script that is not raped by every distributor. Since kollywood heroes are lions in a cage, it is very juvenile to compare their work with the body of work of even jon voight who misses out his place in the troika of Al, De niro and dustin by a whisker. We have been long worshipping our sivajis, MGRs, Kamals, Rajinis in our little well that we forget what is it that defines 'acting' and to a greater extent we out of our adulation and over bearing 'fan love' have in many ways restraining them (kamals and rajinis) from challenging themselves to a greater height. Oru limitukku mela our stars dont do any home work because they are rather resigned to the fact that many here might not understand the nuances they pour in.
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From: thamiz
on 8th October 2008 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
Thamizh,
Are you saying that KH is not up to the mark of De Niro or Pacino?
Hey! You see now I triggered some worthy discussion!
I will get back to MC, seriously, on this issue!
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From: Nerd
on 8th October 2008 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
Thamizh,
Are you saying that KH is not up to the mark of De Niro or Pacino?
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From: ajithfederer
on 8th October 2008 11:39 PM
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Good to see that is only
your opinion .
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
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From: thamiz
on 8th October 2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Good to see that is only
your opinion .
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
You see, I speak for myself not for AF! Did not you know that?!!
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From: ajithfederer
on 8th October 2008 11:41 PM
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Adhanala than naanum unga opinion-nnu mattum sonnein
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Good to see that is only
your opinion .
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
no no no .. both acting as robos - definite no no.
ideal movie is "The Heat" deniro role rajini, pacino role Kamal Val kilmer role to Vikram. adhu..
Vikram role as val Kilmer may be more than fine but why not Rajni as Pacino and Kamal as De Niro?
I dont think Kh or Rajnikanth are up to the mark of either De Niro or Pacino!
I see speak for myself not for AF! Did not you know that?!!
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From: thamiz
on 8th October 2008 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Adhanala than naanum unga opinion-nnu mattum sonnein
OK, AF!
Thanks for the understanding!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 8th October 2008 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information De Niro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting. If you start comparing kollywood guys to them the effort is a monstrous attempt at ridicule.
FYI, I never compared Rajini and Kamal to either DeNiro or Al Pacino in my post. I just said I think there are better actors than these two in Hollywood!
The reason I did that in this thread was because I noticed the discussion or criteria of Rajini and Kamal being able to portray the characters that those two did in a movie. It is just a speculative discussion, and no one will know unless something like that will come to fruition. To be able to rule out the possibility all together without actually seeing it was a little funny to me. That's it!
I repeat, I'm not expecting this Hub to agree with me when I say I dont think these two are the best of the best!
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From: ajithfederer
on 8th October 2008 11:45 PM
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Its shocking to see even after Kamal portraying so many wide variety of roles is being not seen equivalent to Al Pacino, deniro or who not
.
For me , KH is miles ahead of many actors
.
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From: Nerd
on 9th October 2008 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
I dont think these two are the best of the best!
I also don't think these two are THE best but they are two among the all-time best list. I dont think Kamal is the best Indian actor even, why go that far. Of course this will be denied by the kamal fans circle, but there is a world outside them. Also kamal in many interviews has acknowledged Pacino/Hoffman/De Niro, even Norton.
My opinion!
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From: Sid_316
on 9th October 2008 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Its shocking to see even after Kamal portraying so many wide variety of roles is being not seen equivalent to Al Pacino, deniro or who not
.
For me , KH is miles ahead of many actors
.
IMO KH is miles ahead of any other actor!!!
i dont think any 1 can match is versatility!!not saying just because i am his fan.. but i dont think any1 can match this versatile genius
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
I dont think these two are the best of the best!
I also don't think these two are THE best but they are two among the all-time best list. I dont think Kamal is the best Indian actor even, why go that far. Of course this will be denied by the kamal fans circle, but there is a world outside them. Also kamal in many interviews has acknowledged Pacino/Hoffman/De Niro, even Norton.
My opinion!
Nerd, you know I din't opine on Kamal or Rajini's acting skills at all, but rather only on Al Pacino and De Niro's positioning in the hearts of our hubbers! :P
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From: Nerd
on 9th October 2008 12:26 AM
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Of course! I simply can't resist
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 12:49 AM
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Even a broader question - is there any absolute definition for 'acting' at all?
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 12:53 AM
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Digression -
Is pizza better than masala dosai?
End-digression
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
I dont think these two are the best of the best!
I also don't think these two are THE best but they are two among the all-time best list. I dont think Kamal is the best Indian actor even, why go that far. Of course this will be denied by the kamal fans circle, but there is a world outside them. Also kamal in many interviews has acknowledged Pacino/Hoffman/De Niro, even Norton.
My opinion!
The word "THE BEST" is subjective! Kamal fans (like me) have always claimed that Kamal is THE BEST Indian actor. Others will claim their favourite actor(s) as the BEST in the country or some will have a different opinion/take. But the bottomline is - when you talk about the best/greatest actors that India has produced it's hard not to see a Kamal in disucssion. Kamal to Indian cinema is like what Pacino/De Niro is for Hollywood cinema...
Kamal is one among those few Indian actors who gets right under the skin of whatever character he plays... And yes there is a world outside Kamal. There are lot of other talented actors in India both past and present! That is true for every actor whether it is Brando or Pacino or De Niro (or) for every industry whether it is hollywood or Kollywood... Kamal has accepted/stated that De Niro or Nortan are great actors. So what? Does that mean he is any inferior?
Thamizh,
Just because Kollywood is no Hollywood - issuing blanket statements such as KH is not in the same league as De Niro/Pacino is blasphemy/humbug!
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
Well, Yes, it is like comparing apples and oranges I agree!
In 100 meters?!
Yes, we must admit that we are LESS capable and incompetent!
IN acting, yes, we do have "an excuse" and we can say whatever we want!
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
I guess it's high time Webster or Oxford comes up with a term/ word for "Hollywood is the best" syndrome!
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acting
Kamal, RK and Sivaji know all these forms of acting(Rajini mentioned that he studied this form of acting in the film chamber of commerce) - but what they have shown or have been allowed to show in their films till date is not even a fraction of what they know.
because we have been celebrating their baby steps as the best performance in the galaxy and when they tried pushing their envelopes further we became rather cold towards their best efforts.
So net and net - just based on the quality of the performances that we have seen in movies alone, De Niro and Pacino done far superior works in movies than Kamal, RK and even Sivaji Ganesan (burn me at the stakes for this). This is primarily because our actors have to be loud and crass and sometimes act silly for comedy track and so many monkey business in our movies which reduces the overall quality of their work .
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Thamizh,
Just because Kollywood is no Hollywood - issuing blanket statements such as KH is not in the same league as De Niro/Pacino is blasphemy/humbug!
MC:
True!
Kollywood is not Hollywood.
I own the dvd of Heat in which Robert De Niro has certainly done great! He is certainly an exceptional actor when it comes to mob movie!
Let it be untouchable, or Godfather II, or goodfellows, he can shine over anybody!
According to critics, R DN did better than Al Pacino in Heat as well.
That is why I said so!
I know it is like comparing apples and organges!
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
app_engine
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
I guess it's high time Webster or Oxford comes up with a term/ word for "Hollywood is the best" syndrome!
before you roll on the floor and break all your bones, kindly show me one sensible critic who says De Niro and Pacino are not great.
hollywood or non-hollywood - compared with all the best works of all language films, still De Niro and Pacino will be lauded as kings of acting by any international independant jury. If you still doubt it, I would rather suggest you watch their works and then comment.
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 01:28 AM
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MC !! we kamal fans would want him to be recognized in the leagues of De Niro, Pacino, John Malkovich etc., and he is worthy of being in that league - if only we allow him to do a film of his ideals and not our compromises.
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 01:33 AM
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இது தாங்க அந்த விக்கிப்பீடியா வரையறை:
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An actor is usually one who manipulates his posture, expression, and voice to communicate the actions and motivations of a prescribed character. The actor is said to be "assuming the role" of another, usually for the benefit of an audience, but also because it can bring one a sense of artistic satisfaction.
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இதை எப்படிங்க அளப்பீங்க?
அப்புறம், இந்த ஓட்டுப்போட்டவங்க யாருன்னு சொல்லலியே..அதுவும் விக்கிப்பீடியா ஜனநாயகமா?
ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி பாத்தா அமிதாப் ஒரு வேளை அல் பசினோ, மார்லன் ப்ராண்டோ'வையெல்லாம் விட அதிகம் ரசிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கக்கூடும்
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Originally Posted by
Movie Cop
Originally Posted by
app_engine
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting.
Well, voted by whom? என்ன அடிப்படையில்?
சும்மா கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர்களை 'ஆஹா பிரமாதம்' என்றும், நம்ம ஊர் ஆட்களை 'சராசரி', 'அவர்களைப்பார்த்து அதே மாதிரி செய்தார்கள்' என்றும் சொல்லுவது சரியா?
மேலும் 'நடிப்பு' என்பது 100மீ ஓட்டம் போல் அல்ல, அதற்கு என்ன அளவு கோல்?
Disclaimer - This is not to blindly support KH or RK , but to really set the parameters against which to measure this thing up or run comparisons.
I guess it's high time Webster or Oxford comes up with a term/ word for "Hollywood is the best" syndrome!
before you roll on the floor and break all your bones, kindly show me one sensible critic who says De Niro and Pacino are not great.
hollywood or non-hollywood - compared with all the best works of all language films, still De Niro and Pacino will be lauded as kings of acting by any international independant jury. If you still doubt it, I would rather suggest you watch their works and then comment.
Saar,
Naangalum konja nenja hollywood padam paarkaravanga thaan saar... Unga alavukku knowledge illaama irrukalaam. Did I say anything regarding the acting ferfaarmance of DeNiro/Pacino!
Sorry to be rudely honest, your comprehending skills is appalling for someone who apparently gives an impression that you are extremely knowledgable about Hollywood and/or world cinema!
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 01:36 AM
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>>one sensible critic <<
இதையும் எப்படி வரையறுப்பது?
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 01:38 AM
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jaiganes
before you roll on the floor and break all your bones, kindly show me one sensible critic who says De Niro and Pacino are not great.
hollywood or non-hollywood - compared with all the best works of all language films, still De Niro and Pacino will be lauded as kings of acting by any international independant jury. If you still doubt it, I would rather suggest you watch their works and then comment.
JG, I only mentioned my personal opinion that I do not think they're as great as they are proclaimed. I think there are other actors that are much better than these two, but do not get the right "adulation". Whatever the critics might say or how many ever fans or awards these two might have is not gonna change it. I just can't stand Al Pacino on screen in particular!
Try to give other examples that we can use as metrics for Rajini and Kamal in this thread! :P
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:41 AM
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app_engine
ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி பாத்தா அமிதாப் ஒரு வேளை அல் பசினோ, மார்லன் ப்ராண்டோ'வையெல்லாம் விட அதிகம் ரசிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கக்கூடும்
இது என்ன ஜனநாயகம்ன்க இது?
அநியாயமா இருக்கு!
நீங்கதான் இப்போ சொன்னீங்க, இது நூறு மீட்டர் ஓட்டம் இல்லை என்று!!!
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
MC !! we kamal fans would want him to be recognized in the leagues of De Niro, Pacino, John Malkovich etc., and he is worthy of being in that league - if only we allow him to do a film of his ideals and not our compromises.
கமல்தான் நான் ராபர்ட் டி நீரோ வை "அட்மயர்" பண்ணுறேன் என்று சொல்றார்.
ராபர்ட் டி நீரோ அப்படி எதுவும் சொல்லவில்லை!
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி பாத்தா அமிதாப் ஒரு வேளை அல் பசினோ, மார்லன் ப்ராண்டோ'வையெல்லாம் விட அதிகம் ரசிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கக்கூடும்
Honestly though we have huge population, if you really take a POLL world-wide, I dont think Amitabh can beat Al Pacino or Robert De Niro, imho!
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 01:46 AM
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கழுதைக்குத்தெரியுமா கற்பூர வாசனை?
மேற்படி 'க்ரிட்டிக்'கும் ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி தெரிந்தெடுக்கப்பட்டவரா?
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
மேற்படி 'க்ரிட்டிக்'கும் ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி தெரிந்தெடுக்கப்பட்டவரா?
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
app_engine
ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி பாத்தா அமிதாப் ஒரு வேளை அல் பசினோ, மார்லன் ப்ராண்டோ'வையெல்லாம் விட அதிகம் ரசிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கக்கூடும்
Honestly though we have huge population, if you really take a POLL world-wide, I dont think Amitabh can beat Al Pacino or Robert De Niro, imho!
ஸ்மைலி பாக்கலியா?
மொத்தத்தில் ஏதாவது அளவுகோல் இல்லாமல் ஒப்பிடுவதில் எனக்கு உடன்பாடில்லை
எனக்கு அவரை விட இவரை அதிகம் பிடிக்கும் என சொல்வது வேறு, அவரை விட இவர் ஒசத்தி என்று சொல்வது வேறு. ஒப்பிட வேண்டுமானால், அலகு (unit) முதலில் வேண்டும்
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 01:57 AM
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சரிங்க app_engine
நான் இங்கே எதுவுமே சீரியஸா டிஸ்கஸ் பண்ணவில்லை!
MC and Jey only seem to have a rough discussion!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Digression -
Is pizza better than masala dosai?
End-digression
I think Masala Dosai is better in this case because the Pizza kind in discussion here is not my favorite!
If we compare the same Masala Dosai maybe with another kind of Pizza, my opinion might be different... :P
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 02:03 AM
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விக்கிப்பீடியா வரையறை படிப்பார்த்தால், எந்த சராசரி அரசியல்வாதியும் (இந்தியாவோ, வெளிநாடோ வித்தியாசமில்லை) நம்ம சினிமா நடிகர்களை (ஹாலிவுட் அடக்கம்) தூக்கி சாப்பிட்டுருவாங்க
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
app_engine
Digression -
Is pizza better than masala dosai?
End-digression
I think Masala Dosai is better in this case because the Pizza kind in discussion here is not my favorite!
If we compare the same Masala Dosai maybe with another kind of Pizza, my opinion might be different... :P
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
IN chennai it may be other way around!
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
IN chennai it may be other way around!
Now I see why Bollywood looks more glamoros from here and vice-versa!
Should we get back to Rajini and Kamal?
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
மறுபடியும் 'ஜனநாயகம்' தான்
(கொஞ்சம், இல்ல, நிறையவே மார்க்கட்டிங்கும் இருக்கு. ஆனால், அதுவும் நம்ம அரசியலில் அங்கீகரிக்கப்பட்ட உத்தி தான்).
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
IN chennai it may be other way around!
Ikkaraikku Akkarai pachai!
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 02:25 AM
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One last digression -
Who is a better actor - the ogre or the donkey in the 'shrek' series?
End-digression
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From: Nerd
on 9th October 2008 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
What
How many non-Indians actually frequent those?? < 5% I suppose. Pizzas have universal appeal, dosas do not. Apart from south Indians and a section of north Indians nobody wants to eat them
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From: Dilbert
on 9th October 2008 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
m_23_bayarea
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Here is where the problem, not many masala dosai shops opened in west but we have lots of pizza huts!
In our area as far as I know, Indian restaurants are more crowded and more expensive than Pizza Parlors! :P
What
How many non-Indians actually frequent those?? < 5% I suppose. Pizzas have universal appeal, dosas do not. Apart from south Indians and a section of north Indians nobody wants to eat them
I beg to differ If the masala dosa is the like the one you get in Chennai masal @ Hillsboro .. equation will be other way around.. (Btw its rated as Top 10 )
90-95% local only about 5% is namma makkal. !!
My point Quality of Masala Dosa and Quality of Pizza.. makes the difference..
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From: m_23_bayarea
on 9th October 2008 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
Dilbert
My point Quality of Masala Dosa and Quality of Pizza.. makes the difference..
My point is that it's so amazing how we've completely changed the nature of the discussion from the title of this thread! We all should get ready to see our posts in a completely new and fresh thread called "Digressions"...
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From: Dilbert
on 9th October 2008 03:03 AM
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 03:16 AM
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app_engine
I am just saying that acting is not like what we are seeing in thamizh movies.
It is a more involved skill and I have some friends of mine who are more passionate about acting and are so involved in so many methods in 'getting into the character' - this is the measure of good actor. Eg. Nagesh as dead body in magalir mattum - he was more dead as a dead body than some of the real dead bodies i have seen. he did it because he 'visualized' himself as a deadbody and he started being a dead body in the shoot.
Now this is just one of the techniques. Nalla dancer ukku udhaaranam 'Salangai oli' padaththula Kamal solli iruppaar. Adhu dhaan nalla nadiganukkum. Problem is a dancer can be evaluated based on the performances he/she has given on stage - range of expressions, myriads of characters and how he recreates their essence. There are quite a number of memorable such performances by Kamal, Sivaji etc., but the problem is that our filmworld has not set the right enough stage for Kamal or Sivaji or Rajini and as a result their talents are still more than what they have shown in films. When i bring De Niro and Al Pacino - they are two actors who have travelled a whole world of characters (and movie cop I want you to understand that though you have seen many movies of de niro and pacino - there are some early 70s gems which are not seen even by die hard hollywood film watchers) right from an effeminate man to a bisexual to a drug addict to a murderous villain to a cantankerous mob boss. The range which has been unashamedly accepted by De Niro or Pacino is still to be embraced by our legends. The reasons are overall state of talents in our industry (poor to average) , money and some personal inhibitions (except for paresh rawal, prakash raj who has done the role of cross dressers and transgenders ? nad that too in a positive non-judgemental note). Kamal has told himself that he does not want to act in some roles (perceived to be effeminate and ditto applies to rajini). When Bharathiraja asked Shivaji to underplay for Mudhal Mariyadhai - Shivaji was not that happy about it for he did not comprehend the more subtle and visual nature of the medium (Sir Lawrence D Olivier - whom Sivaji loved for having played so many shakespearean tragedies with audacious majesty did not have any such problems playing subtly in Marathon Man). So net and net - the actors in contention(De niro and pacino) have more understanding of the nature of medium and far greater freedom which would have simply liberated and exhalted Kamal to a greater height than where he is right now.. For Kamal and co to be compared to de niro and pacino - the stage has to be levelled and till that date inspite of his talents and efforts (some monumental ones as every passing day of varalaru article in dina thanthi comes up) there is no case to compare and say yet. Probably a Marma yogi and MArudha nayagam would change that. I do hope for that.
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From: Dilbert
on 9th October 2008 04:31 AM
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Jaiganesh . 5.00 AM thesis .. on this..
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From: joe
on 9th October 2008 06:59 AM
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From: NOV
on 9th October 2008 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Funny discussion
reminds me of Dasa intro where Kamal says, before the advent of christianity and islam the people needed to fight, and so the fight was between one sect and another.
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From: groucho070
on 9th October 2008 08:54 AM
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Jaiganes,
Excellent argument. Interesting points and observation. I agree with some and disagree with some, and share the conclusion with regards to the comparison made with Hollywood counterparts. I have my views. With your permission, here’s my few cents before the thread gets locked…
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
When i bring De Niro and Al Pacino - they are two actors who have travelled a whole world of characters (and movie cop I want you to understand that though you have seen many movies of de niro and pacino - there are some early 70s gems which are not seen even by die hard hollywood film watchers) right from an effeminate man to a bisexual to a drug addict to a murderous villain to a cantankerous mob boss. .
True, if you go back, you see varieties with these two. Pacino scores higher here, with his films with Sidney Lumet, and eccentric choices like Bobby Deerfield and Cruising. De Niro and his association with Scorcese one of the most fruitful collaborations between actor/director that marked the seventies (Raging Bull, came out in 1980, closed the 70s), and later early nineties.
But still, they have limitations. Both have difficulty in transcending to comedy at that time. De Niro’s King of Comedy does not really count. Al was okay in the Scarecrow, but not comedy per se. Of course, both did okay 90s onwards in comedy.
Here’s where Kamal and Rajini differ dramatically, these two showed how much they excelled in comedy, within the Tamizh film canvas.
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
The range which has been unashamedly accepted by De Niro or Pacino is still to be embraced by our legends.
Online dictionary describes legend as:
1 a: a story coming down from the past ; especially : one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable b: a body of such stories <a place in the legend of the frontier> c: a popular myth of recent origin d: a person or thing that inspires legends e: the subject of a legend <its violence was legend even in its own time — William Broyles Jr.>
I’ll consider Kamal and Rajini as the best living actors there are in the Tamizh film industry.
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Kamal has told himself that he does not want to act in some roles (perceived to be effeminate and ditto applies to rajini).
Both Kamal and Rajini are trapped in some sort of image. Athu ennaa kandravi image-oo, but even Kamal. To see Kamal play a bada**, you need another Kamal to counterbalance. Playing total negative character is a no-no for him…no thanks to fans not like us. I longed to see him playing scene stealing small, or cameo roles like in Tappu Taalanggal. Let me not even begin with Rajini, a wonderfully original great actor totally wasted for decades.
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
When Bharathiraja asked Shivaji to underplay for Mudhal Mariyadhai - Shivaji was not that happy about it for he did not comprehend the more subtle and visual nature of the medium (Sir Lawrence D Olivier - whom Sivaji loved for having played so many shakespearean tragedies with audacious majesty did not have any such problems playing subtly in Marathon Man).
Hmm…that was not the story I heard. NT strength AND weakness is leaving everything to the director, unless he was involved in the production…even then, he’d trust the director. For MM, he left it to BR to dictate what needed to be done. Subtle performance? You belong to one of those, “oh NT was subtle in MM and Devar Magan” category of fans who had not seen earlier NT films. It’s okay, you are not to be blamed.
By the way, I will not call Olivier's performance in Marathon Man as subtle. It's eccentric. You want subtlety, watch Rebecca. (Interesting anecdote about Oliver and Dusty in that film, on acting, but probably not relevant here).
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
So net and net - the actors in contention(De niro and pacino) have more understanding of the nature of medium and far greater freedom which would have simply liberated and exhalted Kamal to a greater height than where he is right now..
De Niro and Pacino, fortunately, did not inherit crazed, fanatical fans who indirectly (by box office gross usually) dictate what they want from their stars. Yes, stars. Kamal and Rajini became from great actors to great stars in short span of time. Boon? Bane? I don’t know.
Originally Posted by
jaiganes
For Kamal and co to be compared to de niro and pacino - the stage has to be levelled and till that date inspite of his talents and efforts (some monumental ones as every passing day of varalaru article in dina thanthi comes up) there is no case to compare and say yet. Probably a Marma yogi and MArudha nayagam would change that. I do hope for that.
Yeah, we are in a totally different stage. They are in some stadiums, we are in some big hall. Performance has to vary. Culturally we are different, we are more emotional. As NT said, you go to a funeral house, you don’t see solemn people like in the west, you see people wailing and screaming here.
IF you want yardstick for Rajini and Kamal, it has to be NT and his peers. There can’t be a better yardstick. If you can do half of what NT did, you are da man! (no offence to the ladies).
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From: thamizhvaanan
on 9th October 2008 10:12 AM
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Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
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From: Anban
on 9th October 2008 06:02 PM
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good post TV..
exactly, thats why mani's movies seems artificial and sivaji's acting is not too much over the top as some claim to be..
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From: sarna_blr
on 9th October 2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
u r extrapolating
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
TV according to you Balu mahendra and Mani Ratnam are western film makers then. and Al Pacino himself is notorious for his expansive swagger and shout mannerisms. when I say subtle - Take Velu Nayakkar in Nayagan - Mani would have presented a canvas where kamal would have travelled from one end of the spectrum (smashing a guy's head with a hammer) to another (giving a kid his gold chain) and all the while not showing this as a mood swing but a genuine states of being of a character.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
adhethan!
virumandi cant cry subtly like sakthivel....sakthi vel wouldnt be as subtle as michael!
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From: sarna_blr
on 9th October 2008 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
adhethan!
virumandi cant cry subtly like sakthivel....sakthi vel wouldnt be as subtle as michael!
michel cant be subtle as maanickam, maanickam cant be subtle as aarupadayappa , aarupadayappa cant be subtle as vettayan
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
good post TV..
exactly, thats why mani's movies seems artificial and sivaji's acting is not too much over the top as some claim to be..
another wrong conclusion
Shivaji's performances were over the top because of the directors who made it 'over the top' and indeed they were over the top. yet shivaji packed in those over the top performances with so many subtle nuances as well. if you see a shivaji performance without any preconditioning like ' the guy is from a stage background, his fans like his simmakkural, so it is ok for him to act over the top. yada yada etc' then you will be put off as to why he has to react so exagerrated in a closeup. However when the same shivaji is directed by Bharathiraja, then you dont see the close up shots with exagerrated reactions from the great actor. So the best acting years of Shivaji have been sullied by cinema illiterate directors who thought shooting a stage play in 35 mm camera is the same as making a film. Off course shivajee sacrificied his art for his people - denied himself of so many opportunities to collaborate nationally with acclaimed art house directors and worked instead with the likes of ACT who made him shout and shout louder - whenever he has collaborated with the likes of Sridhar and S.Balachander - he has not ceased to impress the pure cinema lovers.
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
adhethan!
virumandi cant cry subtly like sakthivel....sakthi vel wouldnt be as subtle as michael!
Let me clarify again....
when somebody shouts or cries louder it doesn't mean they are over the top.
Every character has a range. and its range determine expressions.
Subtlety doesn't meaning keeping silent when the character is an angry loud mouthed SOB. It is just that keeping within the range of the character and staying true to the type. when expressions and actions are out of type because the director felt that non-artistic reasons are prerogative (satisying star image, deciding how the audience would react or grasp - as if the guy polled every freakin member of audience) then the actor is forced to do something out of the range of the character and then it becomes 'non-subtle' . also virumandi had so many subtle moments which many have failed to notice - see the character progression who cried out aloud aided by liquor on mother's death and the extremely subtle moments when he plans the jailbreak to save the reporter amidst the violent chaos. the transition and realisation lopped back into the character who goes from impulsive and naive to mature and mindful the type of the character is broken only in the last scene when a little bit of Kamal the rational humanist takes over virumandi's voice in the last scene (TV interview).
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From: app_engine
on 9th October 2008 08:31 PM
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I think this is another condescending remark
இந்தத் 'தூய்மை' யை எப்படி மதிப்பீடு செய்வது?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
adhethan!
virumandi cant cry subtly like sakthivel....sakthi vel wouldnt be as subtle as michael!
michel cant be subtle as maanickam, maanickam cant be subtle as aarupadayappa , aarupadayappa cant be subtle as vettayan
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
adhethan!
virumandi cant cry subtly like sakthivel....sakthi vel wouldnt be as subtle as michael!
Let me clarify again....
when somebody shouts or cries louder it doesn't mean they are over the top.
Every character has a range. and its range determine expressions.
Subtlety doesn't meaning keeping silent when the character is an angry loud mouthed SOB.
jaiganesh....adhathan naanum sonnen!
virumandi and sakthivel both are village based guys.
but virumandi cried out loud under the influence of liquor and sathivel was much more controlled in his emotions when both encountered a similar situation.
i was supporting to Tamilvaanans point that subtlity etc depends on the charecters and the nature og those charecters.
neenga wrong contextla purinjutu ivlo periya reply
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From: thamizhvaanan
on 9th October 2008 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
I think this is another condescending remark
இந்தத் 'தூய்மை' யை எப்படி மதிப்பீடு செய்வது?
aavinga ellam elites... nammaku ellam puriyadhu.. neither can we comprehend their purity
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From: jaiganes
on 9th October 2008 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
I think this is another condescending remark
இந்தத் 'தூய்மை' யை எப்படி மதிப்பீடு செய்வது?
i know you are trying to hint that everything is subjective as far as art is concerned.
however when I mean pure cinema lovers, I imply that cinema removed from extraneous factors like image of star - non-sync factors, out of context expressions (vulgar) and aesthetic values appropriate to the making of the movie enhancing the overall pleasure of viewing without compromising originality of vision drawing and holding a viewers attention for most of its running time and elevating the thought process to sync it with the central subject matter throughout.
I apply this scale to every movie I see and then separate out movies that are simply pictures and movies that become 'films' and 'cinema' . Those that are pictures simply add to the number of releases - others stay in the mind and their impressions are not easily erasable.
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From: thamizhvaanan
on 9th October 2008 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Let me clarify again....
when somebody shouts or cries louder it doesn't mean they are over the top.
Every character has a range. and its range determine expressions.
Subtlety doesn't meaning keeping silent when the character is an angry loud mouthed SOB. It is just that keeping within the range of the character and staying true to the type. when expressions and actions are out of type because the director felt that non-artistic reasons are prerogative (satisying star image, deciding how the audience would react or grasp - as if the guy polled every freakin member of audience) then the actor is forced to do something out of the range of the character and then it becomes 'non-subtle' . also virumandi had so many subtle moments which many have failed to notice - see the character progression who cried out aloud aided by liquor on mother's death and the extremely subtle moments when he plans the jailbreak to save the reporter amidst the violent chaos. the transition and realisation lopped back into the character who goes from impulsive and naive to mature and mindful the type of the character is broken only in the last scene when a little bit of Kamal the rational humanist takes over virumandi's voice in the last scene (TV interview).
I have to differ here. It is one of my few grouses with virumandi. The transition was virtually absent. Virumandi in the village was a totally different guy compared to the Virumandi in the jail. Thats how I felt, no transition, he was just sombre and angry. I remember seeing one of kamals interview where he said, initially when he acted in Virumandi, ppl in the sets thought there was still too much of saket ram left in him and thats when he decided to make the character cheerful and friendly. I guess the jail scenes were shot first.
To see the real transition, watch Heyram! nothing much is visible in his expressions, but we get the feel that the character is plunging into fanatiscm and just when we feel he is full of hatred against muslims, the character takes a U turn and is full of compassion. I m yet to single out mannerisms or expressions tat brought abt the change, but I could simply feel the change!!! Thats the magic of the actor and director and the script and its mighty amazing that the same man is responsible for all the three!!!
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
Its funny to see JG talk of subtlety, acting bla bla
Cmon guy, western aesthetics is different, our aesthetics is totally different. An indian emotes in a diff way compared to an american. We are naturally loud, expressive and aggressive race. If Al pacino performs in an Indian character like the way he would do in a hollywood film, its not correct.
And this is the reason why MR movies feels somewhat artificial. He strives to acheive that western aesthetics in his films. Subtle acting (read "close up shots" irrespective of whether the actor is capable), short dialogues, long pauses etc etc... But it just doesnt feel indian enough.
TV,
Bullys eye... Very well articulated... Cinema should reflect the culture of that region/country! Hollywood nadikiravainga get all the minutest of facial expressions right - namba ooru nadigargalukku andha vaaipu innum kedaikavillai endru ellam solluvadhu ellam figment of imagination! Look at the assesment of Pacino/DeNiro by Jaiganes relative to our actos. Especially the bolded one is humbug!
Originally Posted by
Jaiganes
For your Kind Information DeNiro and Al Pacino were recently voted as the most influential actors who have acted in seminal pieces of work in the past 50 years that has redefined the nature and approach to acting. If you start comparing kollywood guys to them the effort is a monstrous attempt at ridicule. These actors go to extreme extents to get the character they play and get it right upto the most minute facial expression and gait.To be fair to our sivajis , kamals and rajinis, this requires time and compensation that is suitable and a script that is not raped by every distributor. .
As though the likes of Kamal's/Naseeruddin Shah's/Mohanlal's/Sivaji Ganesan's haven't done that!
IMO, good script/movie and good acting are two mutually exclusively things though they both complement each other!
However I agree with the image thing though. Yes, our stars are relatively more image consicious than Hollywood actors/stars - thanks to the fans expectations/fanaticism, marekt value etc... I was dissapointed when KH rejected SRK's offer to act in "Main Hoon Na" citing that his fans will not accept him playing a anti-national!
But after watching MHN, I was extremely happy for KH that he didn't accept that role is a different issue altogether!
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th October 2008 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
I have to differ here. It is one of my few grouses with virumandi. The transition was virtually absent. Virumandi in the village was a totally different guy compared to the Virumandi in the jail. Thats how I felt, no transition, he was just sombre and angry. I remember seeing one of kamals interview where he said, initially when he acted in Virumandi, ppl in the sets thought there was still too much of saket ram left in him and thats when he decided to make the character cheerful and friendly. I guess the jail scenes were shot first.
To see the real transition, watch Heyram! nothing much is visible in his expressions, but we get the feel that the character is plunging into fanatiscm and just when we feel he is full of hatred against muslims, the character takes a U turn and is full of compassion. I m yet to single out mannerisms or expressions tat brought abt the change, but I could simply feel the change!!! Thats the magic of the actor and director and the script and its mighty amazing that the same man is responsible for all the three!!!
I too noticed that difference in KH, pre and post AnnaLakshmi's death. Pre Annalakshmi death, Virumandi was happy go lucky, adrenaline flowing, carefree youth! Post AnnaLAksmi's death he was more sobre, quiet and angry man with composure... May be it has something to do with Annalakshmi's death and the impact she had onj his life?
At least KH was consistent in his portryal of Virumandi in the jail and the happy go lucky Virumandi we saw when he was with Annalakshmi!
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From: Nerd
on 9th October 2008 11:09 PM
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Lets get back to kamal vs rajini
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 11:10 PM
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விருமாண்டி நம்ம கமல் படம்தானே!
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 11:11 PM
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விருமாண்டியையும் நம்ம பரட்டையை/இல்லை காளியை யும் கம்பேர் பண்ணுவோம்!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 11:12 PM
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Its been a trend to "mattam thattify" our actors by comparing them with HOLLYWOOD ARTISTS...
Can alpacino play sippikul muthu,guna?
Can Tom hanks play Nayakan
IMHO,Kamal haasan is more versatile than most of them!
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From: thamiz
on 9th October 2008 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Its been a trend to "mattam thattify" our actors by comparing them with HOLLYWOOD ARTISTS...
Can alpacino play sippikul muthu,guna?
Can Tom hanks play Nayakan
IMHO,Kamal haasan is more versatile than most of them!
ஆமா ஆமா ஆமா!
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From: ajithfederer
on 9th October 2008 11:21 PM
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Or for that matter a sappani, or a classical dancer turned drunkard like balakrishna, a schizopernic paranoid like nandhu, a psycopathetic serial killer. I can just go on.
Idhellam namma pandithargalukku theriadhu. Classical case of < what not>
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Its been a trend to "mattam thattify" our actors by comparing them with HOLLYWOOD ARTISTS...
Can alpacino play sippikul muthu,guna?
Can Tom hanks play Nayakan
IMHO,Kamal haasan is more versatile than most of them!
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From: thamizhvaanan
on 9th October 2008 11:22 PM
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AF, your signature
Reminds me of Jack nicholson's one liner from As good as it gets.
"How do you write about women so well"
"Well, I take a man and take away his reason and accountability"
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 11:24 PM
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YEP!
there are persons who can perform at this level or even better in world..who can perform all of them?
Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Or for that matter a
sappani, or a classical dancer turned drunkard like
balarishna
Idhellam namma pandithargalukku theriadhu. Classical case of < what not>
Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Its been a trend to "mattam thattify" our actors by comparing them with HOLLYWOOD ARTISTS...
Can alpacino play sippikul muthu,guna?
Can Tom hanks play Nayakan
IMHO,Kamal haasan is more versatile than most of them!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th October 2008 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
AF, your signature
Reminds me of Jack nicholson's one liner from As good as it gets.
"How do you write about women so well"
"
Well, I take a man and take away his reason and accountability"
I thought abt this dialogue two days before on an occasion
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From: ajithfederer
on 9th October 2008 11:30 PM
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dig///
Vicky and Tamizh(Vaanan)
That signature was kept to remind myself of something
:P
dig ends///
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From: app_engine
on 10th October 2008 12:33 AM
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jaiganesh,
i know you are trying to hint that everything is subjective as far as art is concerned.
Yes, sir!
Excellent post explaining what you mean by the purity! Enjoyed reading it and mostly agree with the view mentioned there.
There are some performances by local stars (SG, KH,RK & the 2 M's of Kerala) that will definitely qualify your description of enjoyable, indelible cinema (though I feel it's inappropriate to compare these among themselves or with those outside the country).
My reco for such a movie - thoovAnaththumbikaL
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From: app_engine
on 10th October 2008 12:43 AM
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There was this movie 'sangham' (by Joshi) in Malayalam which was supposedly inspired from Sivaji's 'viLaiyAttuppiLLai' and that's another cinema "mostly" unaffected by star image, cliche etc.
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From: app_engine
on 10th October 2008 12:45 AM
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Most earlier performances by RK (esp in movies with KH) will easily fit into these unadulterated category (moondRu mu, iLamai oo, 16 va etc)
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From: directhit
on 10th October 2008 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
There was this movie 'sangham' (by Joshi) in Malayalam which was supposedly inspired from Sivaji's 'viLaiyAttuppiLLai' and that's another cinema "mostly" unaffected by star image, cliche etc.
<dig> thx - didn't know this - Sangham is one of my fav movies</dig>
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Its been a trend to "mattam thattify" our actors by comparing them with HOLLYWOOD ARTISTS...
Can alpacino play sippikul muthu,guna?
Can Tom hanks play Nayakan
IMHO,Kamal haasan is more versatile than most of them!
Can you rework on that...like can Al play Nayagan. Can Dustin Hoffman play sippikkul muthu or guna.
Playing autistic savant, or godfather...hmmm....if I am to comment, then I'd be labled anti-kamal. They are good there, Kamal and Rajini are good here. Ambudutheen....
Versatility is subjective. Kamal is versatile here, they are versatile there. Read my earlier posting for more explanation.
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 08:17 AM
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one more thing many have failed to state. our actors (all of them) are inspired by hollywood, but it is never the other way round. :P
until we reach world cinema standards like those of Japan, Korea, continental Europe, there is really no need for comparisons, and let us be happy in our small world.
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
one more thing many have failed to state. our actors (all of them) are inspired by hollywood, but it is never the other way round. :P
I wouldn't say all of them, but generally yes.
I am now no longer interested in versatile actor, but am more intrigued by an ORIGINAL actor, as NT was, good or bad.
I believe Cheavlier was awarded to him for originality of his performance, not because he is a great actor, blah, blah, blah.
Yes, that is what intrigues fans worldwide. Jackie Chan is not a great actor...but he is pretty original. He was not inspired by Clint Eastwood or anyone. That is why he is in Hollywood.
Hah! A new avenue for argument. Originality.
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From: omega
on 10th October 2008 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
one more thing many have failed to state. our actors (all of them) are inspired by hollywood, but it is never the other way round. :P
until we reach world cinema standards like those of Japan, Korea, continental Europe, there is really no need for comparisons, and let us be happy in our small world.
Ithu vaasthavamaana pechu....
Ada avalavu thooram yen povaannen. Inga asiavulla kooda namma starsa pathi avvalava theriya maattenguthu, ithula enga Hollywoodkku poyitteenga...
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
omega
Originally Posted by
NOV
one more thing many have failed to state. our actors (all of them) are inspired by hollywood, but it is never the other way round. :P
until we reach world cinema standards like those of Japan, Korea, continental Europe, there is really no need for comparisons, and let us be happy in our small world.
Ithu vaasthavamaana pechu....
Ada avalavu thooram yen povaannen. Inga asiavulla kooda namma starsa pathi avvalava theriya maattenguthu, ithula enga Hollywoodkku poyitteenga...
Naan theriyama thaan kekkuren
Japan ,Korean stars pathi India-la theriyutha enna ?
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From: ajithfederer
on 10th October 2008 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Originally Posted by
omega
Originally Posted by
NOV
one more thing many have failed to state. our actors (all of them) are inspired by hollywood, but it is never the other way round. :P
until we reach world cinema standards like those of Japan, Korea, continental Europe, there is really no need for comparisons, and let us be happy in our small world.
Ithu vaasthavamaana pechu....
Ada avalavu thooram yen povaannen. Inga asiavulla kooda namma starsa pathi avvalava theriya maattenguthu, ithula enga Hollywoodkku poyitteenga...
Naan theriyama thaan kekkuren
Japan ,Korean stars pathi India-la theriyutha enna ?
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From: Nerd
on 10th October 2008 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Naan theriyama thaan kekkuren
Japan ,Korean stars pathi India-la theriyutha enna ?
Of course!! If you take a peak into the last movies watched thread or the western movies section you would come to know. And Korean/Japanese movies are very famous in this part of the world. There are hell a lot of remakes from those movies in the hollywood. You must have heard kamal/Mani/suhasini/madhan/mysskin quoting kurosawa (a japanese director) in their interviews. Many Indians enthusiastically watch k/j movies. I don't know of a korean/japanese that watch Indian movies (Muthu, et all don't count). All the western people know of Indian movies is the singing and dancing. Even Lagaan was reviewed as an entertainer with dance/songs etc., Except Aamir Khan/MR, nobody knows other Indian film makers.
I am not saying they are bad because they ain't popular, btw
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From: ajithfederer
on 10th October 2008 08:48 AM
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Nerd,
I think he was asking about stars ala actors (or) heroes from those places. No doubt regarding whether their movies or famous or not.
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From: ajithfederer
on 10th October 2008 08:50 AM
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From: Nerd
on 10th October 2008 08:52 AM
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OK. Since the movies are popular, people would be able to recognize the stars. You get the drift. I am not that big a fan of korean/japanese movies but I can name two: Toshiro Miffune and Lucy Liu. Again I am not saying they are better than any Indian actor.
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Japan ,Korean stars pathi India-la theriyutha enna ?
I believe you when you say, "Naan theriyama thaan kekkuren."
I am sure you have heard of Kurosawa - similarly there any some movie makers in both Korea and Japan that are respected and their movies are showcased as exemplary. General population may not know of them, but that doesnt mean they are not recognised as producers of world class cinema.
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
I don't know of a korean/japanese that watch Indian movies
actually there are, shyam benegal comes to mind immediately. but as far as Tamil movie makers are concerned, there are none.
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 09:16 AM
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
I am not that big a fan of korean/japanese movies but I can name two: Toshiro Miffune and Lucy Liu. Again I am not saying they are better than any Indian actor.
Nerd bro, Mifune is associated with Kurosawa, whose name is somehow a must for stars and directors who need to show that they are well-err...viewed. It's like you don't know Kurosawa, you will be banned from interview of something.
Lucy Liu is American, if I am not mistaken.
Honestly, I kinda lost track of discussion here. What were we discussing again?
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
groucho070
Honestly, I kinda lost track of discussion here. What were we discussing again?
our movies and actors are equal if not better than those from hollywood.
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From: thamiz
on 10th October 2008 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Originally Posted by
joe
Naan theriyama thaan kekkuren
Japan ,Korean stars pathi India-la theriyutha enna ?
Of course!! If you take a peak into the last movies watched thread or the western movies section you would come to know. And Korean/Japanese movies are very famous in this part of the world. There are hell a lot of remakes from those movies in the hollywood. You must have heard kamal/Mani/suhasini/madhan/mysskin quoting kurosawa (a japanese director) in their interviews. Many Indians enthusiastically watch k/j movies. I don't know of a korean/japanese that watch Indian movies (Muthu, et all don't count). All the western people know of Indian movies is the singing and dancing. Even Lagaan was reviewed as an entertainer with dance/songs etc., Except Aamir Khan/MR, nobody knows other Indian film makers.
I am not saying they are bad because they ain't popular, btw
When Clint was interviwed sometime ago about his spaghetti western movies, he was talking about a fistfull of dollars in whcih there is a scene,
Clint asks the bad guys to apologize to his mule as his mule is angry at him!
***Joe: I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it. ****
Anyway he was sayingthat this scene was inspired from a japanese movie
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Nerd,
I think he was asking about stars ala actors (or) heroes from those places. No doubt regarding whether their movies or famous or not.
Moreover ,I know Korean/Japanese movies are popular in south east asia ..But apart from few technicians ,how many indian mainstream audience know about Stars from Korea and japan?
Akirakurasova is known to indians same as Sathyajithray is known to others .
Even in countries like singapore,malaysia(where Tamil population is high and part of soceity) most population(non-indians) think that indian movies means Bollywood and Bollywood represents india and they never know bollywood is only for one language in india.
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 10:10 AM
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As i have spent years in Cambodia and Vietnam ,I know indian movies are very popular until 6 to 7 years back and now korean movies replaced indian movies.
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 10:13 AM
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It is better for me not to talk about international cinema since i am not much experience with those
..But I think ,I represent majority of common indian audience.
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 10:14 AM
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From: directhit
on 10th October 2008 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Even in countries like singapore,malaysia(where Tamil population is high and part of soceity) most population(non-indians) think that indian movies means Bollywood and Bollywood represents india and they never know bollywood is only for one language in india.
yeah
my colleagues know amitabh and SRK, but havent heard of RK/Kamal/the two Ms
- even last week there was some two page article on SRK in straits times
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Fistful of Dollars dialogue appadiye ungga kitta arpanichittaaru.
Coincidentally, Tamiz, the same movie is a remake of Yojimbo, a Kurosawa movie.
Kurosawa seems to be dominant in this thread. Okay, dammit, I believe in Kurosawa. Kurosawa, Kurosawa, Kurosawa...
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From: Vivasaayi
on 10th October 2008 10:19 AM
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groucho,
I think,sergio leone dint get the rights of yojimbo...so its not a remake.its an "unofficial" remake!
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
groucho,
I think,sergio leone dint get the rights of yojimbo...so its not a remake.its an "unofficial" remake!
Yeah, its an unofficial remake. I am still not sure how they resolved that issue, because in some instances even the dialogues are same. Remember the coffin, "my mistake, make it four" or something?
But in adapting it, Eastwood did not mimic Mifune in the lead role. And Leone, though inspired, did create his own style. Originality, athaan en point-u, in this whatever discussion we are having now.
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From: thamiz
on 10th October 2008 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Joe/milton:Clint name is "Joe" in that movie. That has nothing intended to do with your name. It is just a coincidence.
I was laughing for the dialogue as in that movie he/clint/joe is askingthe badies to apologize as his mule does not like!
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From: thamiz
on 10th October 2008 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
groucho070
Originally Posted by
joe
Fistful of Dollars dialogue appadiye ungga kitta arpanichittaaru.
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I got it from "memorable quotes"!
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
directhit
Originally Posted by
joe
Even in countries like singapore,malaysia(where Tamil population is high and part of soceity) most population(non-indians) think that indian movies means Bollywood and Bollywood represents india and they never know bollywood is only for one language in india.
yeah
my colleagues know amitabh and SRK, but havent heard of RK/Kamal/the two Ms
- even last week there was some two page article on SRK in straits times
Today Singapore press holding releases a weekly newspaper called 'Tabla' with the caption 'Heart beat of Indian community" .First page full of SRK still and 3 more pages of SRK puRaanam and one page for Urmila ,2 pages of Mumbai masala ,one page for Rekha.
http://www.tabla.com.sg/
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From: directhit
on 10th October 2008 11:20 AM
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ada paavingalaaaa - bollywood is big agreed and they even come up with technically good films and also have moved away from typical masala entertainers etc but avanga
mattum thaan padame edukkaraanga range kku publicity panradhu over
mm there shud be some representatives from south film industry to anyway take this issue up - dont think anyone has the guts to do so!
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
directhit
ada paavingalaaaa - bollywood is big agreed and they even come up with technically good films and also have moved away from typical masala entertainers etc but avanga
mattum thaan padame edukkaraanga range kku publicity panradhu over
mm there shud be some representatives from south film industry to anyway take this issue up - dont think anyone has the guts to do so!
Bollywood may be big ..But when they say 'Heart beat of indian community' they should know 90% indian community here are from south.
Apart from 8 pages of bollywood coverage ..oh yeah there is a news about tamil cinema
...just 10 lines about Rajini fans want Rajini to enter politics.
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From: directhit
on 10th October 2008 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by
directhit
mm there shud be some representatives from south film industry to anyway take this issue up - dont think anyone has the guts to do so!
i didnt mean abt the magazine
in general
ha ha vidunga Joe - andha magazine vaangavum oru kootam irukkum
worst part is non-indians browsing those magazines are fooled into thinking indian films = = = Bollywood
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From: joe
on 10th October 2008 11:35 AM
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Anoops,
when i opened my house door this morning,I found the sample hard copy of the first issue(different from what you see online) ..I think they put to all indian community residing doors.
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From: groucho070
on 10th October 2008 11:38 AM
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I suppose it must have been discussed before, I remember NOV mentioning it, but the Malays in Malaysia and Singapore love Bollywood flicks. Those films do well because of the Malays, not Indians...and oh, most of Punjabis whom I hear speak Hindi film Hindi rather than Punjabi (subject for correction here).
But Rajini and Kamal is changing that. Most of them know these two names, seeing that they do make it to local media, and also the fact that both had done some hit hindi films, also that some of their flicks had been dubbed in Hindi as well.
I have not been following Dasa, but I know well that Sivaji had big impact on the non-Indians here. I related one story myself, where me and my colleague brought a Eurasian collague to watch it, and despite crappy and almost non-existent subtitles, she enjoyed it.
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From: directhit
on 10th October 2008 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Anoops,
when i opened my house door this morning,I found the sample hard copy of the first issue(different from what you see online) ..I think they put to all indian community residing doors.
interesting :P - SRK vera inga varaaru - mudive kattiduvaainga
sari indha thread la rajini/kamal thavara ellam pesapadudhu
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From: NOV
on 10th October 2008 11:56 AM
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blame perception.
nowadays not many malays pay money to watch hindi movies in cinema and only very few hindi movies are screened.
tamil movies are next to only chinese movies when it comes to money spinners in malaysia.