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From: ajithfederer
on 21st April 2008 01:55 AM
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Looking forward for Nandalala
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From: MADDY
on 21st April 2008 09:41 AM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
He has taken off his beard and looks very different from his earlier looks.
is he going to be the hero?
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From: Thirumaran
on 21st April 2008 09:42 AM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
He has taken off his beard and looks very different from his earlier looks.
is he going to be the hero?

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From: MADDY
on 21st April 2008 09:49 AM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
Thirumaran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
He has taken off his beard and looks very different from his earlier looks.
is he going to be the hero?



EKSI
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From: Thirumaran
on 21st April 2008 09:56 AM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
MADDY

EKSI

Padam paarthuttu sollunga

:P
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From: MrJudge
on 21st April 2008 11:45 AM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
Thirumaran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

EKSI

Padam paarthuttu sollunga
Though I have faith in Mysskin when I first heard the news I was in

like MADDY. But after seeing a picture of him in AV, I think he can pull it off.
Yes, padam paarththu thaan sollanum.
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From: rangan_08
on 21st April 2008 03:43 PM
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As in CP & Anjathey, the story will be the hero in Nandalala also. Mysskin will only be the protagonist.
BTW, why did he opt for IR when he was so comfortable and successful with Sundar C. Babu ??? (no offence meant, pls.)
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From: directhit
on 7th May 2008 08:11 PM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
He has taken off his beard and looks very different from his earlier looks

yes, looks so diff
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repos.../Pc0250200.jpg
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From: joe
on 7th May 2008 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
rangan_08
BTW, why did he opt for IR when he was so comfortable and successful with Sundar C. Babu ??? (no offence meant, pls.)
Miskin is not directing this movie.
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From: Nerd
on 7th May 2008 08:59 PM
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what ?? Then who is
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From: joe
on 7th May 2008 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
what ?? Then who is


I confused with some other movie..Stand corrected
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From: MADDY
on 7th May 2008 09:29 PM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
directhit
still looks like mansoor ali khan

..........indha director-turned-actornga tholla thaanga mudiyalappa

.............
heard shankar is also on a very strict diet regimen and has reduced lots of kilos
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From: leosimha
on 8th May 2008 12:59 PM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
directhit
still looks like mansoor ali khan

..........indha director-turned-actornga tholla thaanga mudiyalappa

.............
heard shankar is also on a very strict diet regimen and has reduced lots of kilos

wow...shankar as hero in his next S pictures....
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From: cancer
on 8th May 2008 03:03 PM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
leosimha

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
directhit
still looks like mansoor ali khan

..........indha director-turned-actornga tholla thaanga mudiyalappa

.............
heard shankar is also on a very strict diet regimen and has reduced lots of kilos

wow...shankar as hero in his next S pictures....
comedy keemedy ethuvum pannalye?
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From: leosimha
on 8th May 2008 03:07 PM
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Re: Mysskin's Nandhalala

Originally Posted by
cancer

Originally Posted by
leosimha

Originally Posted by
MADDY
heard shankar is also on a very strict diet regimen and has reduced lots of kilos

wow...shankar as hero in his next S pictures....

comedy keemedy ethuvum pannalye?

I posted based on Maddy's post....BTW I heard Shankar came in Sivaji Song Balaelaka...Balaelaka...He was holding a cell phone while wearing the sunglass...At first instance I thought it was somebody else....but on second instance onyl I realised its shankar...
btw, I forgot to put those emoticons....see above...
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From: MrJudge
on 5th June 2008 05:21 PM
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Mysskin reveals intentions and aspirations!
By Behindwoods News Bureau.
June 04, 2008
It is known that Mysskin is donning the lead for the self-directed Nandhalala. However, looks like, it is not the potential stardom or limelight that brought this director in front of the camera to play the lead. In a recent interview to a tabloid he revealed that the role was far from what a normal protagonist would portray since it was that of a sub-normal man and his effort to thrive in the society.
“I created this role and spruced it up in my mind for a long time to perfection,” Mysskin reasoned, adding that it was only natural that he decided to don the greasepaint for it. “However, I don’t have any intention to pursue acting after this,” he mentioned as a matter of fact.
Ilayaraja replaces Mysskin’s musician mascot Sundar C for Nandhalala and Mysskin is all gaga over the Maestro. Five songs have been composed so far and the sixth song is getting in shape. “I am astounded at the Maestro’s ability to weave music for the mildest of emotions and is spellbound to have associated with him,” Mysskin mentioned.
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From: rangan_08
on 5th June 2008 05:55 PM
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After tasting 2 consequtive successes with Sundar, I don't know why Mysskin opted for Maestro?? ( pls pls...no offence against Raja - I'm a B I G fan of his)
Actually, Sundar's job in Anjadey was really good, esp. the BGM. It elevated the mood of the film to a great extent. It also reminded me of the classic thriller " SEVEN " starring Brad Pitt & Morgan Freeman. In fact, most of the camera angles also had a close resemblance to SEVEN.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 5th June 2008 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
rangan_08
After tasting 2 consequtive successes with Sundar, I don't know why Mysskin opted for Maestro?? ( pls pls...no offence against Raja - I'm a B I G fan of his)
Actually, Sundar's job in Anjadey was really good, esp. the BGM. It elevated the mood of the film to a great extent. It also reminded me of the classic thriller " SEVEN " starring Brad Pitt & Morgan Freeman. In fact, most of the camera angles also had a close resemblance to SEVEN.
Mysskin already answered this question in recent AV interview. The main reason is he is very big of IR and he wanted IR for this subject even when he was writing the script from his mind.
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From: rangan_08
on 6th June 2008 10:17 AM
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Today saw " Padappidippu aarambam " poster for Nandalala. It goes like this..........
N A N D A L A L A
ILAYARAJA
MYSSKIN
This itself clearly depicts how much importance Mys. gives to Raja.
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From: MrJudge
on 6th June 2008 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
rangan_08
After tasting 2 consequtive successes with Sundar, I don't know why Mysskin opted for Maestro?? ( pls pls...no offence against Raja - I'm a B I G fan of his)
Any serious film maker who tries to shoot some meaniful movies and understands the importance of bgm and wants to have nativity flavor will go to IR. Because they knew what magic he will do for the visuals.

Originally Posted by
rangan_08
Actually, Sundar's job in Anjadey was really good, esp. the BGM. It elevated the mood of the film to a great extent. It also reminded me of the classic thriller " SEVEN " starring Brad Pitt & Morgan Freeman. In fact, most of the camera angles also had a close resemblance to SEVEN.
Sundar C has done good job in both of his films, but Myssskin feels that this subject needs IR certainly.
Seven is a good film, seen that long timeback, don't remember any angles or music now, the climax is really good.
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From: Scale
on 7th June 2008 01:51 PM
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Anjadhey - No effect
Nandhalala - TZP mal-effect ?
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From: rajasaranam
on 7th June 2008 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
Scale
Anjadhey - No effect
Nandhalala - TZP mal-effect ?
Hmmm Opinions differ

I watched the movie atleast 5 times till now and not getting over it.

I revisited 'CP' and was spellbound at his storytelling style.
Nandalala - He has clearly stated that its a journey of two people - (a kid and a grown up) in search of love and the 32 people they meet enroute. There are many other movies made around world with similar storyline, TZP is not one of them
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From: Scale
on 7th June 2008 09:45 PM
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Welcome RS!
Looks like the spot is clear now for us to get into rings back
Ring rules 1. Don’t bore me to death with your same stale stories and tactics.
CP has every perfect casting and skillful narration. Its directors reverie to emerge with such a meticulous screenplay. It certainly evoked my interest to watch it again. But I didn’t, that’s enough to seize my fondness in movies. Same effect to PV.
Where as Anjadhey is a long-drawn-out blur from title to end. "Anjaadhey" - title itself meaningless. "accham thavir" for such a bleak Narain's role. For CP it worked as henchman, whereas howcome a SP loiters like a nutty <professor> after forceful encampment training. Hospital scenes, Ajmal-Naran's affront, doomed to failure subsequent scenes of kidnapping - chasing - climax - fight and that amorphous Mottai. What the heck - 2.45 hrs+ and you watched it 5 times? Disgusting!
Reg TZP mal effect - Mistaken! Why this sudden reincarnation as a protagonist "actor" with a kid for guidance? If this script is that deep-seated why initiate only now?
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From: rajasaranam
on 8th June 2008 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Scale
[hat the heck - 2.45 hrs+ and you watched it 5 times? Disgusting!
Reg TZP mal effect - Mistaken! Why this sudden reincarnation as a protagonist "actor" with a kid for guidance? If this script is that deep-seated why initiate only now?
Athaan opinios Differ'nnu sollitaen illa Appuram enna
It was initiated before Anjaadhey but the producer Backed off just a day before 'Pooja'. Now that he has tasted the 2nd successive success, he is another best bet for the industry. He can do whatever he wants now, hence he has re-initiated the movie.
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 8th June 2008 08:15 PM
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//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
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From: jaiganes
on 8th June 2008 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
Kandippa A.R.Raguman illai.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 9th June 2008 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
Ariyathavangalukku solrathula onnum thappu illai.
The best MD India ever produced and one of best MD world ever seen and he is one and only MD who ruled TFM in late 70s and entire 80s and early 90s and it doesn't mean he is not in the seen now. His music create happy, sad, anger and whatever mood available in the world.
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 11th June 2008 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi

Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
Ariyathavangalukku solrathula onnum thappu illai.
The best MD India ever produced and one of best MD world ever seen and he is one and only MD who ruled TFM in late 70s and entire 80s and early 90s and it doesn't mean he is not in the seen now. His music create happy, sad, anger and whatever mood available in the world.
Thanks Sanjeevi.
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From: sarna_blr
on 11th June 2008 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
Ariyathavangalukku solrathula onnum thappu illai.
The best MD India ever produced and one of best MD world ever seen and he is one and only MD who ruled TFM in late 70s and entire 80s and early 90s and it doesn't mean he is not in the seen now. His music create happy, sad, anger and whatever mood available in the world.

i love isaiyaraasaa songs....
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From: Vivasaayi
on 11th June 2008 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
the only MD in tamilnadu who made films run single handedly just for songs
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From: MADDY
on 11th June 2008 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
the only MD in tamilnadu who made films run single handedly just for songs
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From: selvakumar
on 11th June 2008 06:25 PM
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I think Sriman annan will be laughing like anything now.
After reading the replies, I am sure he will think million times, before posting these questions in the near future

. A PM can always resolve the issues pretty simply.
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From: MADDY
on 11th June 2008 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar

I think Sriman annan will be laughing like anything now.
After reading the replies, I am sure he will think million times, before posting these questions in the near future

. A PM can always resolve the issues pretty simply.
dont worry, i wont participate in any more arguement on that issue

........when ppl. dont want to accept the obvious, theres nuthing more can be done
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From: Vivasaayi
on 11th June 2008 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
the only MD in tamilnadu who made films run single handedly just for songs

romba urulaadheenga....meesaila man otida povudhu
mohan padam lam mohanukagava oduchu?
tell me ...how many movies of other mds ran for just the "isai"
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From: MADDY
on 11th June 2008 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
tell me ...how many movies of other mds ran for just the "isai"
i'm not denying the fact that many movies just ran for IR;s music.......

and lets stop there with ur irritating views on other greats
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From: Vivasaayi
on 11th June 2008 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
tell me ...how many movies of other mds ran for just the "isai"
i'm not denying the fact that many movies just ran for IR;s music.......

and lets stop there with ur irritating views on other greats

ungaluku irritatingna naan enna panna mudiyum
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From: selvakumar
on 11th June 2008 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
dont worry, i wont participate in any more arguement on that issue

........when ppl. dont want to accept the obvious, theres nuthing more can be done

Maddy, I didn't see your reply. I posted it after Vivasaayi's reply.

It wasn't aimed at you. But to the IlayaRaja fans.
Ithellam theriyaatha visayangal !! I think Sriman annan must have confused himself with the 'Young' Raja picture, that RS had in his avatar. Atha ketka poi, ippadi circular replies varumnnu avar (ae naan kooda) nenachu irukka mattaar
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From: MADDY
on 11th June 2008 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Maddy, I didn't see your reply. I posted it after Vivasaayi's reply.

It wasn't aimed at you. But to the IlayaRaja fans. Ithellam theriyaatha visayangal !! I think Sriman annan must have confused himself with the 'Young' Raja picture, that RS had in his avatar. Atha ketka poi, ippadi circular replies varumnnu avar (ae naan kooda) nenachu irukka mattaar
thats ok.......
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 11th June 2008 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
the only MD in tamilnadu who made films run single handedly just for songs

romba urulaadheenga....meesaila man otida povudhu
mohan padam lam mohanukagava oduchu?
tell me ...how many movies of other mds ran for just the "isai"
Let me give one example "Rangeela". Kashimirla irundhu Kanya kumari varaikkum
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From: Srimannarayanan
on 11th June 2008 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar

I think Sriman annan will be laughing like anything now.
After reading the replies,
I am sure he will think million times, before posting these questions in the near future
. A PM can always resolve the issues pretty simply.
I thought his avatar is SJ Surya.
Yes I will
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From: cancer
on 11th June 2008 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Srimannarayanan
//Dig
Raja Saranam
Unga Avatarla irukiradhu yaru?
//End Dig
the only MD in tamilnadu who made films run single handedly just for songs
i heard that lot of wonderful songs from IR are wasted in FLOP movies, antha mathree Info. hub la irunthu niraya terinjikitten
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From: MrJudge
on 12th June 2008 03:19 PM
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Highly inspired Mysskin on 'Nandhalala'
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, June 12, 2008]
Talented and successful director Mysskin is upbeat and excited about his forthcoming venture 'Nandhalala'. A combination of many aspects of the film has kept the 'Nandhalala' team charged up.
Maestro Ilayaraja composing the songs and music for the film comes after a detailed discussion with the director. Not only was the maestro thoroughly impressed, but also struck a wonderful chord with Mysskin appreciating his talent and passion for filmmaking. Four songs have been recorded and all of them would be featured in montage sequences. With passion running high and Ilayaraja giving that extra bit of finesse, one can expect 'Nandhalala' to be a clean entertainer delving deep into the exuberance of humanness.
Says director Mysskin. "The story is about two children, one a 7 year old and the other a 30 year old, who go on a journey in search of their respective mothers". The 30 year old child is played by the director himself. Though 30 years of age, the character is child-like in all aspects which could be refreshing to the script and the final impact the movie has in store for its audiences.
The 7 year old child is played by Ashwath Raman, a student of Chettinad Vidhyashram who is in his third standard. The boy, it seems, has a lot of exposure to stage acting in school and had already been approached by other filmmakers for roles. Ashwath Ramna's father is a petroleum consultant in Nigeria and his mother a house wife. His role in 'Nandhalala' is expected to propel his career in a big way.
'Nandhalala' very clearly is taking the road less traveled highlighting the lives of 'victims of circumstances'. With an emphasis on human emotions, the film is to be shot in Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh.
As the depiction of the characters in the picture above shows, the characters walk away from the camera embarking on the journey. Metaphorically, one can assume that though they move away, world cinema's eyes would be firmly fixed on them or even follow them. The way Mysskin has planned out the narration and with the fact that he is brimming with enthusiasm one gets the feeling that he is on the right path to get the right kind of attention.
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From: MrJudge
on 12th June 2008 03:25 PM
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From the hindu:
Don’t Myss him
Looks like director Mysskin is heading for a hat-trick. After two critically acclaimed films — “Chitiram Pesuthadi” and “Anjaadhae” — the director has launched his pet project “Nandalala”. A script that ’s been brewing in his mind for quite some time, “Nandalala” didn’t find any takers. Now that Mysskin has established himself in tinselville, his dream project is all set to take shape. Keeping pace with Mysskin’s intense narration would be music maestro Ilayaraaja’s score. Another surprise element will be the director’s screen debut. Says Mysskin, “I’m working non stop and working out too for my new, toned look. I have to shed some more weight because I play the protagonist. I have diet restrictions. I’ve struggled with the script for over two years. I’m happy it’s taking off. And Ilayaraja’s music is integral to every frame.”
Now, we can’t Myss that!
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From: rajasaranam
on 23rd June 2008 11:46 PM
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bump
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From: MrJudge
on 3rd July 2008 07:24 PM
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Director Mysskin came onto the Kalaignar TV morning programme couple of weeks back, he shared some news about Nandhalala and other general things:
* Nandhalala is a simple story and will be told in simple way
* lots of humour in the movie, everybody will enjoy it from grandmas to kids
* after he finished the script, he wrote down IR's name next to it, he said "Only IR can do justice to this script"
* he is acting in it after a few lead actors denied the role
* "you have changed your friend Sundar babu and gone to IR this time. won't he be angry?"
"no, after he listens to the songs, I am sure he will be happy that I've got good songs. my friend Kapilan has written one song in this movie and he asked a promise from me that whenever I work with IR, I should give him atleast one song"
* "tell us your experience working with IR"
"there are five songs in the movie, earlier we planned for 10 songs. when composing songs, IR gets into many minute details, I was bowled over. He asks like 'what is the landscape? is there a mountain? what colour saree the heroine wears? does she have kolusu? who else dances with her? etc. I was with him for composing for the first two days and I left all things to him. he does everything very meticulously. I usually sit with Sundar babu and my lyricists for composing until they are done with it. But for this movie, I left everything to IR"
* "you have given two hits now and many stars will want to work with you in future. will you accept if they want to change something in your script?"
"No, I won't compromise in my script for anybody. If I can write 80 scenes and someone asks me to change the 8th scene, I won't do it"
"what if there is indeed a flaw in the 8th scene?"
"still I won't do it. we are not making master pieces here. If there is a scene with a flaw, let it be there. I won't change it for anybody"
* "what's your next project?"
"I am doing a project with Surya in the lead. Surya called me after he saw Anjaathey, he congradulated me and expressed his desire to work with me."
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From: selvakumar
on 3rd July 2008 07:26 PM
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"still I won't do it. we are not making master pieces here. If there is a scene with a flaw, let it be there. I won't change it for anybody"
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From: MrJudge
on 3rd July 2008 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
"still I won't do it. we are not making master pieces here. If there is a scene with a flaw, let it be there. I won't change it for anybody"

Selva,
I liked his answer. Seriously if anyone wants to make a perfect movie without any flaws, he will be disappointed at the end.
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From: jaiganes
on 4th July 2008 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
selvakumar
"still I won't do it. we are not making master pieces here. If there is a scene with a flaw, let it be there. I won't change it for anybody"

Selva,
I liked his answer. Seriously if anyone wants to make a perfect movie without any flaws, he will be disappointed at the end.
vidunga judge - avaru super perfect avathara fan.
"kurai ondrum illai marai murthy kannaa
kurai ondrum illai kanna...
kurai ondrum illai govindha"
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 01:42 PM
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Jai,
Ungalukku enna aachu ? Break kku appuram ethavathu ANNIYAN relative unga udambukulla pugunthuttaangalah ?
FYI, I really liked Myskin's last film Anjaathey. Though critics were pointing out the flaws, I didn't worry about them. I saw the film at least thrice. I liked his narration irrespective of the flaws. Coming to that post - I found his reply funny. I liked it. It was not a sarcastic post.
I don't know whom you refer in the below line
vidunga judge - avaru super perfect avathara fan.
Sarcasm - ithu ellarukkum varum.. aana thevai illam waste panna koodathu.. OK vaa
And his reply must be on the CRITICS

I seriously believe so. Now, it is upto you to understand on whom the laugh should be
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From: jaiganes
on 4th July 2008 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Jai,
Ungalukku enna aachu ? Break kku appuram ethavathu ANNIYAN relative unga udambukulla pugunthuttaangalah ?
FYI, I really liked Myskin's last film Anjaathey. Though critics were pointing out the flaws, I didn't worry about them. I saw the film at least thrice. I liked his narration irrespective of the flaws. Coming to that post - I found his reply funny. I liked it. It was not a sarcastic post.
I don't know whom you refer in the below line
vidunga judge - avaru super perfect avathara fan.
Sarcasm - ithu ellarukkum varum.. aana thevai illam waste panna koodathu.. OK vaa
And his reply must be on the CRITICS

I seriously believe so. Now, it is upto you to understand on whom the laugh should be

Ange sirippavargal sirikattum ...
summa oru kaamedikku kooda Dasava touch panna koodaadha? Ippo Flavour of the month adhu dhaane?
Kuselanukkum naangal - sari illai endraal thakka mariyaadhai seydhu kummi adippom.
Naan kadavul sari illainnaalum adhaye seivom
Adhellam engaL hub urimai.
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From: joe
on 4th July 2008 05:33 PM
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Jai,
I think,still you don't understand Selva's laughing
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From: jaiganes
on 4th July 2008 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe
Jai,
I think,still you don't understand Selva's laughing

I got it joe sir. thanks
enna panradhu smiley language avvalavaa enakku varaadhu.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 4th July 2008 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Sarcasm - ithu ellarukkum varum.. aana thevai illam waste panna koodathu.. OK vaa
And his reply must be on the CRITICS

I seriously believe so. Now, it is upto you to understand on whom the laugh should be

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From: MrJudge
on 4th July 2008 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
joe
Jai,
I think,still you don't understand Selva's laughing

I got it joe sir. thanks
enna panradhu smiley language avvalavaa enakku varaadhu.
You don't have to worry about it. Because the smiley

works both ways, this smiley

would have conveyed the message right.
Selva,
I got it right and I knew you were enjoying the reply just like I did.
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 07:26 PM
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Judge,
Glad that at least you interpreted the smiley in the right way. If I have to ridicule him, I wouldn't be using such an icon. This smiley can explain it in a better way > (

)
BTW, I expect this film. Anything better than Maayakannadi will be good for me. Unfortunately, 'fan boys' don't deliver well with IR at times except a few.
Jai,
Ange sirippavargal sirikattum ...
summa oru kaamedikku kooda Dasava touch panna koodaadha? Ippo Flavour of the month adhu dhaane?
Kuselanukkum naangal - sari illai endraal thakka mariyaadhai seydhu kummi adippom.
Naan kadavul sari illainnaalum adhaye seivom
Adhellam engaL hub urimai.
You can very well ridicule dasa. But if you keep that as the only activity, we will doubt whether you are seeing the movie everyday ! BTW, May we know under what OBJECTIVE this 'nalla illenalum' word comes under ? I believe it is not part of the critics since it is upto an individual
I am
not a fan of Kamal. I admire him just like every soul will do. Unfortunately, I have less knowledge and may be that is why I enjoy his films like VV and 10A more than other films. I lack the knowledge required for objective analysis.
P.S: Melae ulla reply 'sarcastic reply' alla endru naan sathyam seigiraen
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 07:38 PM
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jai,
ridiculing dasa is not a problem!
but doing that as though its ur duty and maintaining the sincerity in all the threads is
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From: MrJudge
on 4th July 2008 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
BTW, I expect this film. Anything better than Maayakannadi will be good for me. Unfortunately, 'fan boys' don't deliver well with IR at times except a few.
fan boys fail with IR? Cheran is the only example I know. who are the other fan boys you are talking about? BTW, cheran will fall even if he doesn't work with IR. The reason is simple. He should stick with his direction alone, if he continues his acting, his days will be over pretty soon.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 07:44 PM
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bala - a fanboy who succeeds with IR
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From: MrJudge
on 4th July 2008 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
bala - a fanboy who succeeds with IR

avara sollaatheenga, selva-kku kovam varum
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
bala - a fanboy who succeeds with IR

avara sollaatheenga, selva-kku kovam varum

then kamalhaasan- the fanboy of ilayaraja
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From: crajkumar_be
on 4th July 2008 07:47 PM
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Cheeni Kum Balki-e fan boy dhaane
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
fan boys fail with IR? Cheran is the only example I know. who are the other fan boys you are talking about? BTW, cheran will fall even if he doesn't work with IR. The reason is simple. He should stick with his direction alone, if he continues his acting, his days will be over pretty soon.
Cheran did all alumbu for Maaya Kannadi. Hyped it as the 23rd year of IR (right ? ) in the film industry. I see such an effect from Myskin's words. Other fans of IR won't speak this much. Instead they have shown that in their works. I won't consider them as 'fan boys'. Having said that, I would be glad if Myskin proves me wrong.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
fan boys fail with IR? Cheran is the only example I know. who are the other fan boys you are talking about? BTW, cheran will fall even if he doesn't work with IR. The reason is simple. He should stick with his direction alone, if he continues his acting, his days will be over pretty soon.
Cheran did all alumbu for Maaya Kannadi. Hyped it as the 23rd year of IR (right ? ) in the film industry. I see such an effect from Myskin's words. Other fans of IR won't speak this much. Instead they have shown that in their works. I won't consider them as 'fan boys'. Having said that, I would be glad if Myskin proves me wrong.
selva...when did cheran extract quality music for his films..leave away mayakannaadi!
the BGM in anjaathey was outstanding!...and we could expect good work from the BGM king
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Cheeni Kum Balki-e fan boy dhaane

Viv, Judge and Bala,
I take my statement back. Effect of Maayakannadi might have made me to post that

Cheenikum was a pleasant surprise

and it erased the MK effect. wow... what kind of songs they were !
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Cheeni Kum Balki-e fan boy dhaane

Viv, Judge and Bala,
I take my statement back. Effect of Maayakannadi might have made me to post that

Cheenikum was a pleasant surprise

and it erased the MK effect. wow... what kind of songs they were !
with whose permission u r placing her photo as ur avatar
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 07:53 PM
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with whose permission u r placing her photo as ur avatar
yaara ketkanum
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From: MrJudge
on 4th July 2008 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Cheeni Kum Balki-e fan boy dhaane

Viv, Judge and Bala,
I take my statement back. Effect of Maayakannadi might have made me to post that

Cheenikum was a pleasant surprise

and it erased the MK effect. wow... what kind of songs they were !
In Mayakkannadi, didn't you like ulagile azhagi song? I liked only that song on CD. I didn't like it on screen though.
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 07:59 PM
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Judge,
I didn't like any song in MK. The song that IR hyped as an "MGR song" in the CD was

"Mudiyala". It was like as if he scored for the movie without any involvement.

He could have very well made Cheran go with other composers. Even guys like Deva have given hit numbers in Cheran movies.
<dig> Just compare the MGR type song in Iruvar and what IR gave. You will understand the disappointment. May be - they should have removed that speech completely. </dig>
OTOH, I really liked cheeni kum though they were old tunes
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From: crajkumar_be
on 4th July 2008 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
In Mayakkannadi, didn't you like ulagile azhagi song? I liked only that song on CD. I didn't like it on screen though.
IMO that's one of the most overrated songs in recent times...
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th July 2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
In Mayakkannadi, didn't you like ulagile azhagi song? I liked only that song on CD. I didn't like it on screen though.
IMO that's one of the most overrated songs in recent times...
adding to that songs were the cherans hairstyle...romantic esprasssons...yenda chellam amanda chellam dialogues
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From: rajasaranam
on 4th July 2008 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Judge,
I didn't like any song in MK.
The song that IR hyped as an "MGR song" in the CD was
"Mudiyala".
Selva,
I've seen earlier also you repeating the same 'MGR song'. I kept quiet but it has gone down too much into you that your mis-conception has to be corrected now.
Without even listening to the Intro given by Raaja, summa kelvi pattatha vecha oru karuththa uruvakkikka koodathu. There was a "MGR Type Song" which was composed, but was dropped before the day recording was done, and for the same situation another song was recorded as replacement. This is the history of the song 'Yelae Nee Enga Vantha'.
I dont have any problems if you dont like any song in 'MK' I liked konjam konjam and Ulagilae Azhagi.
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 08:25 PM
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RS,
I didn't want to go into the intricate details. I am not sure whether I would have liked the song too (considering my overall feel on the album). After listening to that speech, I listened to 'Aelae engae vantha'. Do you really feel that it is a "replacement" ? If I am not wrong, he used to give songs that provide similar feel of other songs. It would be drastically different from the originals. I was searching for 'Positive feel' in the 'Aelae engae vantha' song. Hence, my disappointment. Hope I am clear now
Without even listening to the Intro given by Raaja, summa kelvi pattatha vecha oru karuththa uruvakkikka koodathu
The first song I listened in Mk was a speech by IR. I indeed listened to it.
The lyrics IR referred to was :
'Vaaikkal vettinal pothunalamah.. something like that'. It is not a 'made up' story. I have referred to this in the past also. (Infact, when I posted my views on the album in the 'LAST SONG YOU LISTENED TO' thread

I expressed my disappointment on the MGR song.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 4th July 2008 08:27 PM
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Yaanaigalukku (IR fans) romba nalli pasi than irunthalaalum cholapporiyavathu (MK songs) kidaithathu
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From: jaiganes
on 4th July 2008 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
jai,
ridiculing dasa is not a problem!
but doing that as though its ur duty and maintaining the sincerity in all the threads is

aiyya neenga adha yaen thappa eduthukireenga.
ippo paarunga, padam varathukku mundhi,
11 vadhu role screenplay - twisting turning animal, maha bpramaadhamnu annane sonnaaru.
padam release aanapram
annan solraaru - screenplay laam onnume pannalai 9 paerayum kondaandhu kaatanumgiradhu dhaan screen play gilma, mathabadi menakedalainaaru.
modhalla kaetadha nambi kenayanaanadhu naan.
rendaavadha sonnadhai modhalla solliyirundha oru magaraasan padatha paakradhu kanakka poi summa theatreai adhar panni iruppomla.
kooptu kannula kuthuna maadhiri irundhichu. sari kannu vali pora varaikkum kotti theekalamennu dhaan kumurunen.
ippo naan katharadhunaala collection egurudhunne eduthukonga.
paaru payapullai polamburaan aana thalaivar padam new zealandlayum antarticavilayum kodi kodiya alludhu paarnnu ennaya kalaasunga. adhai vittuttu chumma BJP kanakka kaduppulaye irukeengale.
Take it Easy urvasi.
Once en kannu vali sari aanadhum, naanum normalman aayduven brother.
Namma Sakthivel thevar sonnaappola,
"Avan lateaa then varuvan"
@ brother selva.
unga sirippil irukkum artham enakku piriyavillai . adhanaala mishteek aayduchu ba.
manchuko.
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From: rajasaranam
on 4th July 2008 08:53 PM
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Selva,
The song was just a replacement at the same scene where it shud have occured. But the content and feel was entirely changed. Earlier It was supposed that when 'Cheran' goes to the studio there a shooting will be on with a MGR song and Cheran Imagines himself as hero in that song. But the change was that he goes to the studio and gets advised and ridiculed 'Yelae nee enga Vantha'. Malaikkum Maduvukkum ulla vithyasam irukku rendu paattukkum.
Yes but the Hype Raaja gave to this song was too much. But he was not lying when he said that Cheran thanked Raaja that 'Intha paattu vantha odane padam engaeyo poiduchu sir'. After that intro when i Listened to the song I too was disappointed
Enna panrathu ippadi ellarum usupaethi usupaethiyae avar Isaiyaa ranagalam aakki vachu irukaanga
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From: joe
on 4th July 2008 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
Yaanaigalukku (IR fans) romba nalli pasi than irunthalaalum cholapporiyavathu (MK songs) kidaithathu
Yenpa! 'ULiyin oosai' kooda IR thaan .. enna aachu? audio released?
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 09:40 PM
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@ brother selva.
unga sirippil irukkum artham enakku piriyavillai . adhanaala mishteek aayduchu ba.
manchuko.
mannippu periya vaarthaia. Freeya vidunga

Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Enna panrathu ippadi ellarum usupaethi usupaethiyae avar Isaiyaa ranagalam aakki vachu irukaanga
I have the same feeling for every word coming out of Myskin in his interviews.

It would be better he doesn't speak anything on the music for the time being and gives us a complete surprise with the output he had extracted.
I think I shall forget Maayakannadi and remember Cheenikum in the future.

and hope for positive things down the line
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From: Nerd
on 4th July 2008 09:40 PM
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EKJI inniku padam release.. three movies.. UO, Subramaniapuram and one more..
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From: joe
on 4th July 2008 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
EKJI inniku padam release.. three movies.. UO, Subramaniapuram and one more..

Padam release aanathu kalainjar-kkavathu theriyuma?
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From: selvakumar
on 4th July 2008 09:46 PM
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Joe,
They were telecasting the trailors in kalaignar tv everyday.
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From: joe
on 4th July 2008 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Joe,
They were telecasting the trailors in kalaignar tv everyday.
I see..namakku thaan kalainjar TV varathe
kalainjar pesama kalainjar TV-laye release pannirukkalam.
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From: jaiganes
on 4th July 2008 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Joe,
They were telecasting the trailors in kalaignar tv everyday.
viduvaangala?
DVD la already scratches boss.
aanal UO - raajave thaedi poi initiate panna project. so konsam espect panlaam. aana actorsa nenachaa dhaan enakku nadukkama irukku.
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From: MrJudge
on 5th July 2008 09:53 PM
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'Nandhalala' starts filming
IndiaGlitz [Saturday, July 05, 2008]
It is well known that Mysskin is mighty passionate about 'Nandhalala'. The director who delivered two big hits in 'Chithiram Pesudhade' and 'Anjathey' is also acting in his third project apart from directing it. The story is about a six year old kid and a thirty year old 'kid-like' person who go in search of their respective mothers.
The journey they take would also be a journey into the very essence of human nature in all it's splendor.
Four days of filming is over in a rather quiet manner keeping the intensity of the story in mind. Starting off with the portions that involve the boy and Mysskin, the movie will plod on in a smooth manner.
Mysskin belongs to the school of thought that believes in recording the sound portion along with the shooting part. No wonder that this project is rolling on in that fashion. Moreover, online editing is also going on. Shots from multiple cameras cut appropriately on location to get the right effect. Dummy soundtracks have also been posted to gauge the effect and the director is reportedly happy with what he is churning out.
A film on children highlighting the finer points of humanity will surely be a welcome relief for Tamil audiences.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 5th July 2008 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe

Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
Yaanaigalukku (IR fans) romba nalli pasi than irunthalaalum cholapporiyavathu (MK songs) kidaithathu
Yenpa! 'ULiyin oosai' kooda IR thaan .. enna aachu? audio released?

naan appo nadanthatha sonnen
btw currently i am listening UO songs. verdict : very good to good songs
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From: selvakumar
on 20th July 2008 12:38 PM
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Read a news in tamilcinema. If it is true, then Myskin
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From: MrJudge
on 7th August 2008 06:34 PM
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New stills from Nandhalaa were published along with his interview in this week's AV. Mysskin looks completely different with his new haircut and Snigtha looks natural without make-up. All Q&As are same old we read earlier.
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From: MrJudge
on 7th August 2008 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
selvakumar
Read a news in tamilcinema. If it is true, then Myskin

எவ்வளவு தூரம் இந்த ரிப்போட்டை நம்பலாம்னு தெரியல. பேசின விஷயங்கள் ஒரளவிற்கு சரி தான், ஆனால் பேசின விதம் தான் சரியில்லைன்னு நினைக்கிறேன்.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 25th August 2008 07:32 PM
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Not sure if this is old news: Heard from a friend of mine (who worked as an assist director in Chithiram Pesudhadi) that Nandalala would be a remake/adaptation of Takeshi Kitano's "Kikujiro". Has anyone seen the film?
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From: selvakumar
on 25th August 2008 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Not sure if this is old news: Heard from a friend of mine (who worked as an assist director in Chithiram Pesudhadi) that Nandalala would be a remake/adaptation of Takeshi Kitano's "Kikujiro". Has anyone seen the film?
pera paartha orae KILU KILUPPA irukku
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From: MrJudge
on 25th August 2008 07:40 PM
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The Kikujiro movie image indeed looks like Nandhalala image
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199683/
I hope he admits openly if it is indeed adaptation of it.
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From: littlemaster1982
on 25th August 2008 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Sandhegamae illa
Endha alavukku adapt panni irukkaru-nu rendu padatthaiyum paarthadhan theriyum. Plot is dangerously similar to Nandhalala.
Brash, loudmouthed and opportunistic, Kikujiro hardly seems the ideal companion for little
Masao who is determined to travel long distances to see the mother he has never met. Their excursion to the cycle races is the first of a series of adventures for the unlikely pair which soon turns out to be a whimsical journey of laughter and tears with a wide array of surprises and odd ball characters to meet along the way.
You too Myskkin
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From: MrJudge
on 25th August 2008 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Endha alavukku adapt panni irukkaru-nu rendu padatthaiyum paarthadhan theriyum. Plot is dangerously similar to Nandhalala.
Yes, it is dangerously close to that movie's plot.
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 25th August 2008 07:51 PM
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[quote="littlemaster1982"]

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
You too Myskkin

inga ambi-nnu orE oru nallavan irundhAn!avanaiyum ipdi kAyadichitIngaLE!
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From: MrJudge
on 25th August 2008 08:24 PM
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Actually when I watched anjAthEy it reminded me of some cop sequences from Kurosawa's High and Low (neither the plot nor the screenplay just sequences). So I still have some hope on Mysskin to come out with something similar instead of rip off and man, I am so disappointed to hear about Kikujiro connection today.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 25th August 2008 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Actually when I watched anjAthEy it reminded me of some cop sequences from Kurosawa's High and Low (neither the plot nor the screenplay just sequences).
You mean the phone-tapping sequences where all the cops are listening in on the caller's conv?
Actually, Mysskin is a big time Kurosawa fan it seems. In fact, my friend also told me that Mysskin wanted to see Miffune in many scenes involving Naren... and i don't know if its just me but i thought i saw the influence in the Naren's walk, dialogue delivery etc in both the films...
All this said, i very much look forward to Nandalala, based on Anjaathey and Ilaiyaan. Didn't like Chithiram Pesudhadi, though
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From: MrJudge
on 26th August 2008 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
You mean the phone-tapping sequences where all the cops are listening in on the caller's conv?
Yes. And also one scene from Red Beard (Narain's discomfort seeing blood in the station for the first time)

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
In fact, my friend also told me that Mysskin wanted to see Miffune in many scenes involving Naren... and i don't know if its just me but i thought i saw the influence in the Naren's walk, dialogue delivery etc in both the films...
Yes, I too felt the same.

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
All this said, i very much look forward to Nandalala, based on Anjaathey and Ilaiyaan.
What is this? a movie??
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From: littlemaster1982
on 26th August 2008 09:13 AM
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Judge,
Ilaiyaan is none other than IR
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From: vasanth2006
on 26th August 2008 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Endha alavukku adapt panni irukkaru-nu rendu padatthaiyum paarthadhan theriyum. Plot is dangerously similar to Nandhalala.
Yes, it is dangerously close to that movie's plot.

I hope he wont mimic.....I think He will take the theme from that movie and will adapt to tamil culture....
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From: MrJudge
on 26th August 2008 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Judge,
Ilaiyaan is none other than IR


couldn't guess.
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From: MrJudge
on 26th August 2008 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
vasanth2006
I hope he wont mimic.....I think He will take the theme from that movie and will adapt to tamil culture....
Obviously he is going to make it suitable for tamil audience. But adapting/lifting the theme itself is disappointing.
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From: MrJudge
on 9th September 2008 09:25 PM
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Nandhalala' going strong
IndiaGlitz [Tuesday, September 09, 2008]
As reported earlier, director Mysskin's 'Nandhalala' is made with a lot of aesthetic grace and the film is about human relationships pertaining to maternal love. The film stars Mysskin along with a seven year old boy (Ashwath Raman) and both of them go in search of their respective mothers. The story is all about the journey and the people they meet on the way.
Shooting for the film is currently going on in Chennai and reports indicate that the climax scenes are being shot. However, all the song sequences are yet to be filmed. Songs are not going to be featured in the traditional format but as montage sequences.
According to Mysskin, Illayaraja's songs are tremendously intense capturing the mood of the film in a big way and that the songs would be a big boost for the film as a whole.
Scenes involving the mother characters to be shot in Gobichettipalayam.
Will a movie like 'Nandhalala' that delves into human relationships be embraced by Tamil audiences? Only time will tell.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th September 2008 10:01 PM
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anjadhe imho is over rated
some scenes looked amateurish and irritating
prasannas mannerisms..some camera angles etc
but iy had its moments like when the old lady showers flower on the spot where naren found the guy who was hit by the mob
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From: Ramakrishna
on 9th September 2008 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anjadhe imho is over rated
There was nothing great about Anjaathey
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From: Nerd
on 9th September 2008 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anjadhe imho is over rated
There was nothing great about Anjaathey

Movie of the year, by a distance
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From: MrJudge
on 9th September 2008 10:18 PM
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Yes, the best movie of this year so far!
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From: Ramakrishna
on 9th September 2008 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anjadhe imho is over rated
There was nothing great about Anjaathey

Movie of the year, by a distance


I was expecting this from you
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th September 2008 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anjadhe imho is over rated
There was nothing great about Anjaathey

Movie of the year, by a distance

that doesnt make it a great movie...because this year had only a handful of quality movies....2 may be 3 .thats it
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From: Nerd
on 9th September 2008 10:25 PM
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That does not mean its a bad movie either. IMO, the movie was very good.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 9th September 2008 10:26 PM
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The movie was definitely watchable. But nothing to rave about.
And the climax was a drag.
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From: ajithfederer
on 9th September 2008 10:39 PM
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Anjadhe is definitely a very impressive film.
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From: Movie Cop
on 9th September 2008 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
The movie was definitely watchable. But nothing to rave about.And the climax was a drag.

Eggjatly! When my brother watched anjathey he was raving about it. So, that tempted me to watch the movie only to discover rather boringly that there is really nothing to rave about the movie... I'm not saying it's a bad movie but it's not neccesarily a good one either! these movies are bound to satnd out amidst the likes of Kuruvi's or Pazhani's... It's funny to see how folks hail mediocrity just because there is a temporary dearth of good/great movies!
Am still waiting for one "really good" tamil movie this year - that will break the lull and emerge as an all time classic!
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 04:46 PM
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hello guys...
Anjathey original script kedaiyathu. thieryuma? Idha pathi yerkanave discuss panni irundha sorry.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar
on 19th September 2008 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
hello guys...
Anjathey original script kedaiyathu. thieryuma? Idha pathi yerkanave discuss panni irundha sorry.

huh?
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanguine Sridhar

Originally Posted by
viraajan
hello guys...
Anjathey original script kedaiyathu. thieryuma? Idha pathi yerkanave discuss panni irundha sorry.

huh?
Why Sridhar. Has this been discussed already
I came to know about this only today
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From: Sanguine Sridhar
on 19th September 2008 04:55 PM
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Atleast I came to know just now, can you explain it?
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 05:02 PM
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Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 19th September 2008 05:03 PM
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enna kodumai sAr ithu...
entha padam virAjan?
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 19th September 2008 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.
I don't think so.Mystic river,my friends say is a similar movie.Remake is a wrong word.Should re-watch all the so-called good movies and then judge,which is the best.
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From: sarna_blr
on 19th September 2008 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
hello guys...
Anjathey original script kedaiyathu. thieryuma? Idha pathi yerkanave discuss panni irundha sorry.

Viraajan, I loved the movie Anjadhey :P its a nice fantastic excellent movie atleast for me
Naan chinna vayasaa irukkumbOdhu ( around 14 or 15 ), 1st time Batsha padam paaththittirukkumbOdhu, Rajini'ya katti vachchu anandh raj adikkumbOdu ennayum ariyaama azhudhirukkEn, and Rajini thirumbavum Anandhraj'a adhEy kambaththula pOttu adikkumbOdhu "
avana adi , vidaadha " nu ennayum ariyaama kaththirukkEn
adhukkappuram oru padaththula andhalavukku onri paaththappadam Autograph
then Anjaadhey, especailly andha climax'la , andha 2 school ponnungala kadaththittu pOyi kattipOttiruppaanga

"
andha ponnungalukku onnum aagakkoodaadhunnu enmanasu pOttu adichchukkittadhu 
"
lungi'ya mattum suththikkittu andha ponnu "
appaa inga varaadheenga " nu solra idam

nejamaavE azhudhuttEn

andha heroine ponnu kulikkuradha prasanna etti paakkumbodhu "
kalla eduththu prasanna mandaya odachchidalaamaanu enakku thOnuchchu 
"
ovvoru scene'um enna andha alavukku badhichchu irukku

padaththOda ovvoru scene'layum naan ondrippOna oruppadam
Ennapporuththavaraikkum enna rombavum baadhichchappadam , adhu copy adikkappattirundhaalum paravaayillai
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From: MrJudge
on 19th September 2008 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.

Are you serious man?
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
VENKIRAJA

Originally Posted by
viraajan
Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.
I don't think so.Mystic river,my friends say is a similar movie.Remake is a wrong word.Should re-watch all the so-called good movies and then judge,which is the best.
Yep. Mee too. Wil watch MR soon.
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
viraajan
Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.

Are you serious man?

Yes judge

Mysskin-um yemathittaru...
Will watch the Mystic river soon and would post my opinion about the similarities betw these movies.
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From: littlemaster1982
on 19th September 2008 06:15 PM
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Haven't seen Mystic River. But the synopsis in IMDB doesn't seem that similiar to Anjaathey. May be Prasanna's character and kidnapping part is inspired.
Mystic River paarthavanga yaaravadhu irukkanume inga
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From: viraajan
on 19th September 2008 06:15 PM
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Nan inime than pakka poren

D/l than
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From: Nerd
on 19th September 2008 07:10 PM
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I think mysskin just lifted the pedophile bit from Mystic River. Been a long time since I watched it but I think the similarity ends there. Mysskin is heavily inspired by Kurosawa though, as discussed earlier (particularly the camera angles)
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From: jaiganes
on 19th September 2008 10:20 PM
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its BS if someone says Anjaadhe is inspired from Mystic River.
Mystic River is the tale of 3 friends one cop, one a loser and one mafia don. A brutal Rape and murder of the don's daughter takes a toll on the fragile friendship and skeletons come out of the closet in the investigation - it is not an action movie and there was no subtext of friends trying to join police kidnapping etc., whoever writes such article deserve whipping in public!!
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From: ajithfederer
on 19th September 2008 10:24 PM
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Viraajan and Judge
Just out of curiosity, Did myskkin promise anywhere or anybody that he would make an ORIGINAL film ??

Originally Posted by
viraajan

Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
viraajan
Yeah.
It's inspired from a 2003 movie called "Mystic River". I read this news in todays "Times of India". The heading for that article was "Remake rajaas"...
They have also mentioned about Saroja-JN, Dham dhoom-Red Corner.

Are you serious man?

Yes judge

Mysskin-um yemathittaru...
Will watch the Mystic river soon and would post my opinion about the similarities betw these movies.
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From: P_R
on 19th September 2008 11:35 PM
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ToI
Page set paNNumpOdhu oru column idam irundhirukkum. adhai niRapparadukkAga ippidi pOtturuppAinga. adhellAm serious-A eduththukkuttu....
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From: Sanguine Sridhar
on 20th September 2008 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
That does not mean its a bad movie either. IMO, the movie was very good.
You are right, lets not get into this inspiration or copied arguments this is the best movie of this year, not necessarily to everone.
followed by su-pu fyi
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
its BS if someone says Anjaadhe is inspired from Mystic River.
Mystic River is the tale of 3 friends one cop, one a loser and one mafia don. A brutal Rape and murder of the don's daughter takes a toll on the fragile friendship and skeletons come out of the closet in the investigation - it is not an action movie and there was no subtext of friends trying to join police kidnapping etc., whoever writes such article deserve whipping in public!!
it hurts a creator a lot....to call a original product as an inspired one
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Viraajan and Judge
Just out of curiosity, Did myskkin promise anywhere or anybody that he would make an ORIGINAL film ??
No, he didn't. But as a fan of his movies, I want him to be original and if at all he is inspired from other movies, I want him to accept it openly. Because I don't mind watching inspired movies if the creator accepts it.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Viraajan and Judge
Just out of curiosity, Did myskkin promise anywhere or anybody that he would make an ORIGINAL film ??
No, he didn't. But as a fan of his movies, I want him to be original and if at all he is inspired from other movies, I want him to accept it openly. Because I don't mind watching inspired movies if the creator accepts it.
thirudalam...aanaa othukanum...othukaati kadupaayiduven apdinu soldreengala?
deva casually acceps his copyinng..appo adhu rightu..nalla logic
ohh...neenga judgeu..adhavadhu needhipadhi...kutratha othuukutta thandanaya koraichuduveenga
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
thirudalam...aanaa othukanum...othukaati kadupaayiduven apdinu soldreengala?
deva casually acceps his copyinng..appo adhu rightu..nalla logic
As long as the end product is good, I don't mind it. Deva's songs are not my cup of tea.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
thirudalam...aanaa othukanum...othukaati kadupaayiduven apdinu soldreengala?
deva casually acceps his copyinng..appo adhu rightu..nalla logic
As long as the end product is good, I don't mind it. Deva's songs are not my cup of tea.
ok....u r playin safe
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
ok....u r playin safe
What is there to play safe? That is my taste, so
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
ok....u r playin safe
What is there to play safe? That is my taste, so

nothing..i think yuvan never accepts his inspiration...why dint u hate him
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 20th September 2008 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
sarna_blr
Ennapporuththavaraikkum enna rombavum baadhichchappadam , adhu copy adikkappattirundhaalum paravaayillai

ithoda nirithikiduvOm.intha kOtta thANdi neengaLum varakoodAthu,nAnum vara mAttEn.(reNdu pEraiyum ban paNNiduvAinga appu)
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
nothing..i think yuvan never accepts his inspiration...why dint u hate him

Tell me one MD who hasn't copied/inspired then we can talk about it. No MD has been original including IR, and no MD accepted it. That is a known fact. But aren't we talking about inspired movie scripts here? Aren't both cases different?
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From: Cinefan
on 20th September 2008 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
nothing..i think yuvan never accepts his inspiration...why dint u hate him

Tell me one MD who hasn't copied/inspired then we can talk about it. No MD has been original including IR, and no MD accepted it. That is a known fact. But aren't we talking about inspired movie scripts here? Aren't both cases different?
Judge,
Then why have a different yardstick for directors?
Personally,i am more for original screenplays than storylines.Story knots can be inspired/copied but the screenplay should be original.
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From: rajasaranam
on 20th September 2008 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Tell me one MD who hasn't copied/inspired then we can talk about it. No MD has been original including IR, and no MD accepted it. That is a known fact. But aren't we talking about inspired movie scripts here? Aren't both cases different?
Raaja had accepted about his inspirations many times. Infact some of his inspirations came ot light only after he publicly said them
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
nothing..i think yuvan never accepts his inspiration...why dint u hate him

Tell me one MD who hasn't copied/inspired then we can talk about it. No MD has been original including IR, and no MD accepted it. That is a known fact. But aren't we talking about inspired movie scripts here? Aren't both cases different?
so if all the directors hide the fact of being inspired u will accept!
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
Cinefan
Judge,
Then why have a different yardstick for directors?
Because I can give atleast couple of directors' names who are original (still not inspired from other movies) but MDs I don't think that is possible.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th September 2008 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Cinefan
Judge,
Then why have a different yardstick for directors?
Because I can give atleast couple of directors' names who are original (
still not inspired from other movies) but MDs I don't think that is possible.
naatama...there will never be a film maker who will not be inspired from other movies.
they are not born with all those film making skills
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From: MrJudge
on 20th September 2008 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Raaja had accepted about his inspirations many times. Infact some of his inspirations came ot light only after he publicly said them

What songs had he accepted?
(SPB revealed ingi idduppazhagA connection with an old hindi number in an interview but not IR)
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From: Hulkster
on 20th September 2008 04:35 PM
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Mozart's 25th Movement led to veetukku vaasapadi song which was told by IR and pudhu mapillaiku being inspired from MSV as well. Even when SPB told about inji iduppazhaga IR did not deny so it shows acceptance as well.
In fact IR has told that his music is just a modification of bach's style playing into more genres alot of times. He always states that he follows from bach style and in the future someone will take over from him.
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From: rajasaranam
on 20th September 2008 07:49 PM
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further to this Hulksters post... He had given many many interviews in which he had revealed the source fr some of his songs. One such inteview i remember was in late 80's or early 90's wherein he mentioned about the connection between 'Yerumayil yeri varum' a bakthi song being an inspiration for 'Maanguyiley Poonguyiley'
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From: NOV
on 20th September 2008 07:57 PM
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what about poottukkal pOttaalum and darling darling darling I love you?
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From: viraajan
on 21st September 2008 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
its BS if someone says Anjaadhe is inspired from Mystic River.
Mystic River is the tale of 3 friends one cop, one a loser and one mafia don. A brutal Rape and murder of the don's daughter takes a toll on the fragile friendship and skeletons come out of the closet in the investigation - it is not an action movie and there was no subtext of friends trying to join police kidnapping etc., whoever writes such article deserve whipping in public!!
Hope you were mentioning the article writer of TOI and not me.
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From: viraajan
on 21st September 2008 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajithfederer
Viraajan and Judge
Just out of curiosity, Did myskkin promise anywhere or anybody that he would make an ORIGINAL film ??
AF,
Good question. But i never said that "Mysskin promised that he'll come up with original but he has copied". Anjathe's fresh screenplay, direction has registered Myskin as a director with creative thoughts and innovative ideas. After I saw Anjathe, i sent a msg to my friend "Myskin is a gift to Tamil Cinema da. He must come up with many such movies da".
But when i heard that its not a original script, i felt bit disappointed.
hope am clear.
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From: viraajan
on 21st September 2008 01:07 PM
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Enna porutha varaikkum Inspiration illadha idame kidaiyathu. Its not a crime to get inspired from world cinemas. But appattama copy adicha sathiyama othukka matten. Adhanala than Saroja-va ennala fulla yethukka mudiyala. Am planning to watch it for 3rd time, only for premji and yuvan. Not for the story or direction.
//Franka sollanum-na ennoda blog la "My inspiration" nu oru linke koduthurukken. No itwofs, No ursmusically - No vision of vinith. i would not have created a blog if i had not come across Karthik and Suresh. Ivanga ellam pudhusu pudhusa ezhutharangale-nu nenaichapodhu than naan-um ezhuthanum-gra aasa enakku vandhudhu
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From: rajasaranam
on 21st September 2008 05:42 PM
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http://www.behindwoods.com/features/...r/mysskin.html
"The inspiration for the movie came from many incidents in my life and another movie."
Raaja maathiriyae Thirantha manasukaarar 'Myskkin'

Iyar Paeyar vaera Raja'vaam
Ippa Athu enna movie'nnum sollanumnnu kaetkaatheenga! atha kandupudikka vaendiyathu unga vaelai :P
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From: rajasaranam
on 21st September 2008 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
what about poottukkal pOttaalum and darling darling darling I love you?

Avar copy adichathu, inspire aanathu ellathayum avarae sollanumnna neenga ellam epdi 'Sherlock holmes' aagarathu?!! ungalukkum konjam Santhosham vaenumlla
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From: Padmanabhan
on 21st September 2008 08:59 PM
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From: MrJudge
on 21st September 2008 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
"The inspiration for the movie came from many incidents in my life and another movie."
nenjila pAl vArtheengA
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From: ajithfederer
on 21st September 2008 11:36 PM
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Neither did I. I wanted to know whether Myskkin did any sort of such promise!.

Originally Posted by
viraajan
But i never said that "Mysskin promised that he'll come up with original but he has copied".
ok.

Originally Posted by
viraajan
But when i heard that its not a original script, i felt bit disappointed.
hope am clear.
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From: Anban
on 21st September 2008 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
"The inspiration for the movie came from many incidents in my life and another movie."
nenjila pAl vArtheengA

the line producer of the movie and mysskin best friend Mr.Srikanth told this in orkut long ago..
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From: jaiganes
on 22nd September 2008 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
its BS if someone says Anjaadhe is inspired from Mystic River.
Mystic River is the tale of 3 friends one cop, one a loser and one mafia don. A brutal Rape and murder of the don's daughter takes a toll on the fragile friendship and skeletons come out of the closet in the investigation - it is not an action movie and there was no subtext of friends trying to join police kidnapping etc., whoever writes such article deserve whipping in public!!
Hope you were mentioning the article writer of TOI and not me.
offcourse! yes.
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From: NOV
on 22nd September 2008 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Avar copy adichathu, inspire aanathu ellathayum avarae sollanumnna neenga ellam epdi 'Sherlock holmes' aagarathu?!! ungalukkum konjam Santhosham vaenumlla

We are the ones applying standards here. we lower the standards or raise it depending on who is being judged.

We would all be at peace, if we bring them (the idols) down to human levels and accept them with all thier limitations.
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From: abbydoss1969
on 22nd September 2008 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
NOV

Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Avar copy adichathu, inspire aanathu ellathayum avarae sollanumnna neenga ellam epdi 'Sherlock holmes' aagarathu?!! ungalukkum konjam Santhosham vaenumlla

We are the ones applying standards here. we lower the standards or raise it depending on who is being judged.

We would all be at peace, if we bring them (the idols) down to human levels and accept them with all thier limitations.
Good point.
But, I have read the novel "mystic river".It has nothing to do with "Anjaathey"
So, I will go with mysskin being most original and promising young director we have.
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From: jaiganes
on 22nd September 2008 07:24 PM
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Abbydoss - 'one of the' pottukunga.
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From: abbydoss1969
on 23rd September 2008 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Abbydoss - 'one of the' pottukunga.
I like him the most.Anjatheky blew my mind becos, it has a novel like depth and comlexity,while most people 'd go for the conventional straight line narration.[I think you guys discussed it somewhere here]He is also moving away from the underworld themes,that most our serious directors seems to have taken to. So,I have lots of expectations for him
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From: MrJudge
on 27th September 2008 03:51 PM
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Nandhalala in Malaysia
September 27, 2008
Nandhalala is on the verge of completion but for a few songs. The Mysskin starrer also marks the onscreen debut of the talented director of hit films like Chithiram Pesudhadi and Anjaathe. Sniktha, who shot into fame with her item number Kathaala Kannale, is paired opposite Mysskin.
Shoot schedules in Tamil Nadu have been wrapped up on September 26 and the crew will fly to Far East for filming a couple of dream sequences. Last leg of the shooting is planned in Malaysia that will kick start on October 1, it is learnt. With this, the movie will be ready for post-production works. Nandhalala is slated for a late-2008 release.
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From: Anban
on 27th September 2008 04:04 PM
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dream sequence-aaaa???
u too Mysskin???
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From: omega
on 27th September 2008 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
dream sequence-aaaa???
u too Mysskin???
Herova aana pirahu ithu illaatti eppadi?
Anyway, hope it gels well with the movie...
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From: MrJudge
on 27th September 2008 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
dream sequence-aaaa???
u too Mysskin???
Do you think he is going to shoot songs abroad? I doubt. My guess is not songs but some scenes.
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From: Anban
on 27th September 2008 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Anban
dream sequence-aaaa???
u too Mysskin???
Do you think he is going to shoot songs abroad? I doubt. My guess is not songs but some scenes.
whatever.. i dont think that this news is true..
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From: Mahen
on 27th September 2008 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Nandhalala in Malaysia
September 27, 2008
Nandhalala is on the verge of completion but for a few songs. The Mysskin starrer also marks the onscreen debut of the talented director of hit films like Chithiram Pesudhadi and Anjaathe. Sniktha, who shot into fame with her item number Kathaala Kannale, is paired opposite Mysskin.
Shoot schedules in Tamil Nadu have been wrapped up on September 26 and the crew will fly to Far East for filming a couple of dream sequences. Last leg of the shooting is planned in Malaysia that will kick start on October 1, it is learnt. With this, the movie will be ready for post-production works. Nandhalala is slated for a late-2008 release.
Behindwoods

The movie is now only 30% completed...And myskin plays a 'mental' and how the heck he suppose to have a dream sequence...
The latest interview with myskin..By looking at the stills, i can bet that there wont be any dream sequence
http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/sep/15sli1.htm
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From: MrJudge
on 5th October 2008 06:05 PM
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This morning Kikujiro was shown on World movies, anyone seen it? I skipped it and saved the fun for nandhalAlA.
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From: MrJudge
on 9th December 2008 11:00 AM
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Mysskin and Master Ashwath Ram dubs for Nanthalala
News Date: 8th Dec, 08
As we reported earlier “Nanthalala” stepped in to Postproduction work last week. Important fact is that Mysskin rendered his own voice for him whilst Master Ashwath Ram pertaining to their own characters in the movie. Bound on the emotions of relationships “Nanthalala” gyrates around a powerful feminine figure don by Snighdha Akolkar.
Mysskin, the Actor cum director of the movie “Nanthalala” even did his stunts sans dupe. He is particular about the movie being completely realistic.
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From: MrJudge
on 9th December 2008 11:01 AM
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Now nanthalAlA is into post production, so the movie will come out for Pongal?
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From: rajasaranam
on 9th December 2008 12:20 PM
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From: viraajan
on 9th December 2008 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
what is the other one?
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From: MrJudge
on 9th December 2008 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
what is the other one?
'nAn kadavuL'
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From: viraajan
on 9th December 2008 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
viraajan
what is the other one?
'nAn kadavuL'
Marandhutten
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th December 2008 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
This morning Kikujiro was shown on World movies, anyone seen it? I skipped it and saved the fun for nandhalAlA.
Watched it and liked it. Mysskin will surely customize here and there. He can't retain the same pace or some of the bizarre (and funny) stuff... actually IMO you don't need to wait for Nandalala to watch this one..
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From: equanimus
on 9th December 2008 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
actually IMO you don't need to wait for Nandalala to watch this one..
Shouldn't it be "should?" I mean, one should rather watch Kikujiro first considering its acclaim as against watching a possibly watered down rework, isn't it?
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th December 2008 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
actually IMO you don't need to wait for Nandalala to watch this one..
Shouldn't it be "should?" I mean, one should rather watch Kikujiro first considering its acclaim as against watching a possibly watered down rework, isn't it?
illa, one may feel watching the original first might spoil the experience of watching a rework (Judge very much looks forward to watching Mysskin's film) and not necessarily the other way round
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th December 2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
actually IMO you don't need to wait for Nandalala to watch this one..
Shouldn't it be "should?" I mean, one should rather watch Kikujiro first considering its acclaim as against watching a possibly watered down rework, isn't it?
illa, one may feel watching the original first might spoil the experience of watching a rework and not necessarily the other way round
watching the "better" version first would be the choice of everyone
the work of their fav actor being an exception.
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From: equanimus
on 9th December 2008 02:04 PM
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Ok, Edho, nallA irundhA sari.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th December 2008 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
watching the "better" version first would be the choice of everyone

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
the work of their fav actor being an exception.

Originally Posted by
Crajkumar_be
Judge very much looks forward to watching Mysskin's film
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From: Vivasaayi
on 9th December 2008 02:06 PM
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oohhh...myskin fana?...rightu
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 9th December 2008 02:30 PM
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Padam Pongalukku release-nu pesikkiraanga..
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From: rajasaranam
on 9th December 2008 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
watching the "better" version first would be the choice of everyone
Raaja Music panrathaala 'Nandalala' thaan better version

Moreover 'Mysskin' is promoting the movie from the beginning as a 'Raaja Musical' and asserts that 'BGMusic' is a major + for the movie. Remember The Ads in which 'Raaja's name appeared above the Director 'Mysskin's name - first time ever in World cinema history
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From: vasanth2006
on 10th December 2008 07:22 AM
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I like "Anjathey" very much....I like myskin's presentation and way of story telling....Many scenes were simply brilliant.....
I am looking forward to this movie(With grand music of IR).......
And after long time I am expecting Maestro's 2 Albums....
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From: steveaustin
on 16th December 2008 07:59 PM
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நந்தலாலாவில் சிம்பொனி
நந்தலாலாவில் யார் ஹீரோ என்ற கேள்விக்கு மிஷ்கின் அளித்த பதில், இளையராஜா. இதற்கு காரணம் இல்லாமல் இல்லை.
மிஷ்கினின் முதல் இரண்டு படங்களும் ஆக்*ஷன் படங்கள். முதல் முறையாக உணர்வுகளுக்கு முக்கியத்துவம் அளித்து எடுக்கும் படம், நந்தலாலா. தாயை தேடிச் செல்லும் இருவரின் கதையை இதில் சொல்ல உள்ளார் மிஷ்கின்.
இவர் முதல் முறையாக நடிக்கும் படம் இது என்பதும் குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது. மிஷ்கினின் அம்மாவாக ரோகினி நடிக்கிறார். படத்தின் நாயகி, கத்தாள கண்ணாலே பாடலுக்கு ஆடிய ஸ்னிக்தா.
படத்தில் வசனம் இல்லாமல் இசையாலே கதை சொல்லும் பகுதிகள் நிறைய உள்ளன. குறிப்பாக அரை மணி நேரம் வரும் ஒரு காட்சியில் வசனங்களே இல்லையாம். தனது மந்திர இசையால் இந்த காட்சியை நிறைத்திருக்கிறாராம், இளையராஜா.
மேலும் படத்தில் சிம்பொனி இசை இருந்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும் என்பதால் ஹங்கேரி இசைக் கலைஞர்கள் நால்வரை வரவழைக்க உள்ளனர்.
நந்தலாலாவின் பா*க்கி போர்ஷ*ன் முடிந்து போஸ்ட்புரொடக்*ன் வேலைகள் நடந்து வருகின்றன.
http://tamil.webdunia.com/entertainm...81216061_1.htm
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From: steveaustin
on 17th December 2008 06:43 PM
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The silent minutes in 'Nandhalala'
Mysskin's 'Nandalala' that tells the story of two orphans and their search for their mothers, has a unique climax. In what way is it different is still an unanswered question, for media had various speculations about the ending. Rumors were abundant that it will be a silent mime for 15 minutes; some stated it was 25 minutes and so on. Even though the rumors are partially true, it was not confirmed officially.
Now, accurate news from the director's side states that it will be a mime for an entire 50 minutes with only the background music. Maestro Illayaraja is the music director who might mark his talents in this area as it gives abundant scope. Earlier, his musical themes played a prominent part in promoting the movies. The songster who's still high on spirits is speculated to bring spectacular music in this particular part of 'Nandalala'. After music, the portrayal of scenes plays a crucial part to make it visually appealing, which has been envisaged by cinematographer Magesh Muthusamy.
Director Mysskin has turned into a stunt man for this film and has composed the action sequences. He himself enacted those scenes without using any dupes in his place. Also a song in the movie has been sung by a 'Narikoravar' lady whose voice is rustic and realistic. Re-recording for the 50 minute silent part is now being done in the studios.
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/43708.html
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From: Scale
on 18th December 2008 12:08 AM
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re-recording for
50mins silent part

remember anjaathey climax <screech>
even RAAJA (65*) cant help
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From: MrJudge
on 18th December 2008 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by
Scale
re-recording for
50mins silent part

remember anjaathey climax <screech>
even RAAJA (65*) cant help

When I was reading about this 45/50 mins silent climax, I thought it couldn't be true. I don't think it is possible to have a silent climax to that extent. Now sify says it is 20 mins climax only which is reasonable IMO. The movie may compete with NK.
"Mysskin completes Nandalala
By Moviebuzz | Wednesday, 17 December , 2008, 10:01
Ace director Mysskin (Chitiram Pesuthadi and Anjathey) has completed his Nandalala. The re-recording of the film is happening now at Ilayaraja's recording studio.
It is Mysskin's debut film as an actor. The story revolves around a mentally challenged person running away from an asylum and a runaway kid meeting and bonding together. They decide to go in search of their respective mothers, which leads to the twist in the story.
The highlight of the film is the music of Ilayaraja, who has recorded two songs for the film. Says Mysskin: “There are just two songs in the film, but it is the background score which will be the lifeline of the film. Raja sir was moved seeing the rushes. We have also brought four specialists in western symphony from Hungary to help Raja sir in getting the perfect mood for the film".
The 20-minute climax of the film is said to be very touching as there are no dialogues, everything is conveyed through music. Mysskin is planning to release Nandalala in January 2009."
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From: viraajan
on 20th December 2008 09:00 PM
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Only two songs??
Silent climax-nu ellam bayangarama hype kodukkaranga
Cant wait to watch it!!
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From: crajkumar_be
on 20th December 2008 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Says Mysskin: “..., but it is the background score which will be the lifeline of the film. ".
Waiting for that Raaja magic

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
The 20-minute climax of the film is said to be very touching as there are no dialogues, everything is conveyed through music.
idha thaane pala varushama pannikitrukkaaru
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From: viraajan
on 22nd December 2008 05:48 PM
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From: podaskie
on 22nd December 2008 06:29 PM
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eagerly waiting for the movie
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From: ajaybaskar
on 23rd December 2008 06:15 PM
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Background scores in Nandalala
Tuesday, 23 December , 2008, 16:37
Last Updated: Tuesday, 23 December , 2008, 16:46
Mysskin’s current project Nandalala will see him teaming up with Ilayaraja for the first time.
The director has announced that background music will be the backbone of the movie, which is the strong bond that develops between a man and a seven year old boy.
For this, the Isaignani has flown in three symphony musicians from Hungary just for this movie, which is currently in the re-recording stage.
In fact, the movie is said to have a full 40 minutes without dialogues, resting only on Ilayaraja’s musical score. And these 40 minutes are actually the climax of the film, which Mysskin says is the first time in the history of Tamil cinema
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From: crajkumar_be
on 26th December 2008 08:17 AM
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http://www.hindu.com/fr/2008/12/26/s...2650770400.htm
To watch Ilayaraja at work is sheer magic unfolding in front of your eyes sans the sleight of hand. I was astounded the first time I was invited to witness the maestro adding soul to the most stale of sequences. He’s parsimonious with words, bu t when it comes to sew seamless swaras, he’s peerless. Watching the sequence, scribbling notes, segregating each instrumentalists task and when it’s all recorded, the way everything is in sync to the last second…it’s worth travelling miles to watch him. He’s not much sought after these days but there are the die hard loyalists like Bala and Mysskin who swear by his music. “I was very sure I wanted only him for ‘Nandalala’,” says Mysskin.
There’s a sense of déjŔ vu when I enter the Prasad studios. Precious little has changed over the years. Mysskin asks me to wait while he enters the sanctum santorum to meet the maestro. He emerges with a triumphant smile and calls for me. “I’m surprised he agreed to meet you,” he says.
Very few people are allowed inside but for me it was as if I was caught in a time warp. I remember entering this room nearly two decades back and now I find Ilayaraja sitting in the same position on a huge ‘gaddi’. It’s sparsely furnished with pictures of Ramana Maharishi and a few deities adorning the walls. He’s relieved when I tell him I’m there to watch and not to talk to him. After some small talk it’s time for a sumptuous lunch.
Three musicians from Budapest were specially invited to work for the background score of “Nandalala”. “They’re used to working for only four hours in a day, but were here for nearly 12 yesterday,” says Ilayraja’s manager.
Now we sit on a bench and watch as the musicians are handed notation sheets. It’s collective cacophony as the violinists fine tune their instruments, but when they play in harmony it’s like a caress. Bits and pieces are recorded in random. There are several retakes till the maestro is satisfied with the nuances. The whole exercise is being captured on video for posterity. “This is the first time in 35 years that his work is being recorded,” says Mysskin. “I’ll have nearly 12 hours of how magic is made.” Ilayaraja shoos away the cameraman in mock anger each time he pans on him.
The Hungarian musicians return. The fact that music knows no language is proved when they are unable to comprehend anything the maestro says, but are able to translate his thoughts into divine music. Now we are treated to a lengthy sequence with the music and our eyes are transfixed as the mood of the music matches every single visual moment onscreen. “It sounds better than what we played,” says one incredulous Hungarian. “I knew that if anyone could enhance the quality of my film it was this man,” says a visibly touched Mysskin. The foreign musicians are felicitated with shawls and the maestro disappears into his room. We leave with the sublime score still ringing in our ears. If music is divine then is Ilayaraja God?
sshivu@yahoo.com
S. SHIVA KUMAR
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From: Nerd
on 26th December 2008 08:49 AM
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Great! NK audio on the 1st and this one on the 10th. What a way to start 2009
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From: rajasaranam
on 27th December 2008 08:25 AM
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Ilaiyaraaja Refuses to work with mysskin Again
Ilayaraaja refuses to work with mysskin again!!!
Mysskin regreted to Ilayaraaja that he made a mistake by trimming the climax portion by 15 mins, had he retained Ilayaraaja would have given more scores which would have been everlasting treat for audiences for which Ilayaraaja said "aiyayoo....adutha padam naan paathutu othukava venamanu yosichithan othukuven" with a smile indicating the demanding scope for re-recording. Mysskin is so elated by Ilayaraaja's scores for his 36 mins lenghty scene which sans any dialogues.
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From: MrJudge
on 27th December 2008 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Ilaiyaraaja Refuses to work with mysskin Again
Ilayaraaja refuses to work with mysskin again!!!
Mysskin regreted to Ilayaraaja that he made a mistake by trimming the climax portion by 15 mins, had he retained Ilayaraaja would have given more scores which would have been everlasting treat for audiences for which Ilayaraaja said "aiyayoo....adutha padam naan paathutu othukava venamanu yosichithan othukuven" with a smile indicating the demanding scope for re-recording. Mysskin is so elated by Ilayaraaja's scores for his 36 mins lenghty scene which sans any dialogues.
When I just read the headline alone in the IR thread, I was like

. I hope Mysskin works with IR for 'mugamoodi' also
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From: rajasaranam
on 27th December 2008 04:36 PM
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judge,
Yaar sir antha Figure?!!
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From: MrJudge
on 27th December 2008 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
judge,
Yaar sir antha Figure?!!

premjisaranamA?
She is Jenna Fischer coming as Pam Beesly in The Office (US tv show), She is cute and I like her a lot in it.
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From: MrJudge
on 1st January 2009 12:37 PM
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A special program about making of Nandhalala on Kalaingar TV this evening at 5.30 pm.
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From: Nerd
on 2nd January 2009 05:46 AM
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Ilayaraja is given more importance than Mysskin in the
paper ad
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From: Hulkster
on 2nd January 2009 07:26 AM
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I think in this film you can look forward to more songs as NK is totally BGM oriented. Cant wait
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From: Sanjeevi
on 2nd January 2009 10:00 AM
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Watched Misskin interview at Kalaigar TV yesterday
highlights
1. IR has composed 5 songs (so we can expect 5 songs in CD)
2. But only 2 songs are mixed with visuals in the film

(matha 3 songsum CD-la irukkuma?)
3. Ulagatha thirappadangalil muthanmuraiyaga last 35 (or 40) minutes will not have any dialogues which means only BGM (ithukku as IR fan santhosapaduratha illa as a film fan payapadurathanu theriyavillai)
4. Misskin said, people like this 40 minutes BGM climax, it will be addictive
5. Missking said the reason for not placing many songs in the movie, "I want to grow to make good film"
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From: MrJudge
on 2nd January 2009 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Ilayaraja is given more importance than Mysskin in the
paper ad 
Wow, great ad!
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From: MrJudge
on 2nd January 2009 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
Watched Misskin interview at Kalaigar TV yesterday
highlights
1. IR has composed 5 songs (so we can expect 5 songs in CD)
2. But only 2 songs are mixed with visuals in the film

(matha 3 songsum CD-la irukkuma?)
3. Ulagatha thirappadangalil muthanmuraiyaga last 35 (or 40) minutes will not have any dialogues which means only BGM (ithukku as IR fan santhosapaduratha illa as a film fan payapadurathanu theriyavillai)
4. Misskin said, people like this 40 minutes BGM climax, it will be addictive
5. Missking said the reason for not placing many songs in the movie, "I want to grow to make good film"
mukkiyamAna onna vittuteengalE? He is confidant to say that we wouldn't have heard this kind of bgm from IR in the last 32 years. After watched the whole film IR said 'nAgarigamAna padam'.
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From: Nerd
on 2nd January 2009 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
3. Ulagatha thirappadangalil muthanmuraiyaga last 35 (or 40) minutes will not have any dialogues which means only BGM (ithukku as IR fan santhosapaduratha illa as a film fan payapadurathanu theriyavillai)
I shudder to think of some horrible acting (ala CP, anjAthey) in those scenes.
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From: Nerd
on 4th January 2009 11:14 PM
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From: Scale
on 5th January 2009 12:50 AM
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Thank you Nerd. indha post paarkalanna thoonga poyiruppen.
Very impressive interview & enriching movie clips. Go Go Myskin
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From: MrJudge
on 7th January 2009 05:07 PM
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Mysskin to give credit to “Kikujiro”
IndiaGlitz [Wednesday, January 07, 2009]
Director Mysskin's 'Nandhalala' is almost wound up for an early release. The director, who has churned out films like “Chithiram Pesuthadi” and “Anjathey”, is keen to make a mark with 'Nandhalala' in which he plays the lead role besides directing it.
The movie is seemingly inspired by Japanese flick “Kikujiro”, directed by Taikeshi Kitano. It is about the journey of a young child. Released in 1999, the movie swept many awards. 'Kathale Kannalae' Snightha is also in the cast.
Interestingly, Mysskin was tight-lipped when the project initially began. However after pointed out buy certain section of media that the movie is actually a take-off of “Kikujiro”, Mysskin has eventually decided to give due credit to the original version in the title card itself.
Meanwhile, sources close to the director say he is planning his next inspired by "August Rush” (2007), a drama film directed by Kirsten Sheridan and written by Paul Castro.

marupadiyum inspiration-A?
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From: Nerd
on 9th January 2009 06:37 AM
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விரைவில் இசை
But this I think is the last of *promising* projects IR is associated with, at least for this year.
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From: viraajan
on 9th January 2009 06:47 AM
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How true is the news that it is inspired from the Japanese film Kikijuro?
Maybe, it’s the one line plot that makes people think like that, but this film is based on a real life incident. Though I
was inspired by some movies, I can assure you that 90 percent of the film is my own.
Myskin... 
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defau...Mode=HTML&GZ=T
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th January 2009 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
விரைவில் இசை
But this I think is the last of *promising* projects IR is associated with, at least for this year.
"Pa" irukke with Balki? (not that i expect much from the movie but meesical scope irukkum nu nenaikkaren)
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From: Nerd
on 9th January 2009 08:58 AM
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naan thamizh padangaLa pathi sonnEn! Yeh Pa would be good musicwise
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From: viraajan
on 9th January 2009 09:02 AM
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What is Pa?
//lyricist?
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th January 2009 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
What is Pa?
//lyricist?
"Pa" is a Hindi film which has been announced by adman Balki (Cheeni Kum). IR music and i think thambi Abisek...
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From: Thirumaran
on 9th January 2009 09:10 AM
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Music release soon
btw innum Naan Kadavul song ae kaetkala
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From: viraajan
on 9th January 2009 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
viraajan
What is Pa?
//lyricist?
"Pa" is a Hindi film which has been announced by adman Balki (Cheeni Kum). IR music and i think thambi Abisek...

Raj!
I have no knowledge abt hindi movies
Listen to few songs and watch very few movies.. thats all
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From: MrJudge
on 9th January 2009 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
விரைவில் இசை
But this I think is the last of *promising* projects IR is associated with, at least for this year.
Great!
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From: MrJudge
on 9th January 2009 09:50 AM
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Nerd,
இன்னொரு படமும் இருக்கு, வால்மீகி. நிச்சயம் பாடல்கள் சும்மா கலக்கப்போகுதுன்னு தோணுது.
More info here:
http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=11943
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From: rajasaranam
on 9th January 2009 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Innoru padam pettikkulla irukku "Mayilu' Pattu ellam excellent'a vanthu irukku. Hope all the problems are solved and this movie also gets released.
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From: viraajan
on 9th January 2009 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Innoru padam pettikkulla irukku "Mayilu' Pattu ellam excellent'a vanthu irukku. Hope all the problems are solved and this movie also gets released.
Yeah... That Velli Manal song movie right???
That song was great
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From: MrJudge
on 9th January 2009 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Innoru padam pettikkulla irukku "Mayilu' Pattu ellam excellent'a vanthu irukku. Hope all the problems are solved and this movie also gets released.
Yes, the project is shelved right now. Was it co-produced by Moser Baer? I think they are in trouble after releasing 'poo'.
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From: steveaustin
on 12th January 2009 02:59 PM
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அஞ்சாத நரிக்குறவர்கள் அசர வைக்கும் மிஷ்கின்
திடீரென்று திருநங்கைகளுக்கும் மரியாதை ஏற்படுகிற மாதிரியான பாத்திரங்களை வடிக்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறார்கள் தமிழ்சினிமாவில். தெனாவட்டு படத்தின் இயக்குனர் வி.வி.கதிர் துவங்கி வைத்த இந்த நல்ல காரியத்தை, தனது படமான நந்தலாலாவிலும் செய்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின். லக்ஷயா என்ற திருநங்கை நடித்திருக்கிறாராம் இந்த படத்தில். மிக சிறந்த பரதக்கலைஞராம் லக்ஷயா. இவர் மட்டுமல்ல, சமுதாயத்தில் எந்த அங்கீகாரமும் இல்லாத நரிக்குறவர் இனத்தை சேர்ந்த பலரையும் தனது படத்தில் நடிக்க வைத்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின்.
நரிக்குறவரான சரோஜா அம்மாள் என்ற பெண்மணியை இளையராஜாவின் இசையில் பாடவும் வைத்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின். ‘எலிலே எலிலே’ என்ற பாடல் ‘வாளமீனுக்கும்’ பாடலை பீட் பண்ணும் என்கிறார்கள்.
எதிலும் வித்தியாசத்தை புகுத்த நினைக்கும் மிஷ்கின் நந்தலாலாவில் மிக நீண்ட குளோஸ் அப் காட்சி ஒன்றை வைத்திருக்கிறாராம். மிக நீள க்ளைமாக்ஸ் காட்சி முழுவதும் ஸ்லோ மோஷனில் எடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதாம்.
ஏராளமான புதியவர்களை அறிமுகப்படுத்தியிருந்தாலும், அஸ்வத்ராம் என்ற சிறுவனை மிக முக்கியமான பாத்திரத்தில் நடிக்க வைத்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின். கதை விஷயங்களில் பாலிவுட்டில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள மறுமலர்ச்சி மிஷ்கின் போன்ற இயக்குனர்கள் மூலம் தமிழிலும் தொடர்கிறது. பாராட்டுகள்...!
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ry/120109a.asp
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 12th January 2009 03:09 PM
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எலிலே எலிலே’ -> In Av , myskin had mentioned that its not composed by raaja
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From: A_Ajith
on 13th January 2009 01:35 AM
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From: jaiganes
on 13th January 2009 03:00 AM
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AA - wait for the movie and find out the answer!!
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From: Nerd
on 13th January 2009 05:58 AM
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naaLai mudhal thAlAttu - Music is releasing tomorrow??????
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From: MrJudge
on 13th January 2009 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
AA - wait for the movie and find out the answer!!
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From: MrJudge
on 13th January 2009 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

I hope they've included all 5 songs in it.
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From: Nerd
on 13th January 2009 08:31 AM
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aahaa naan kadavulE bOthaiyE innum theLiyala.. innonnA
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From: MrJudge
on 13th January 2009 11:16 AM
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Won't the shops be closed tomorrow?
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From: Sid_316
on 13th January 2009 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Awesome!
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From: Nerd
on 13th January 2009 07:51 PM
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I thought they opened the stores in the evening on the 1st. Something of that sort may happen. Btw, is there an audio release function??
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From: crajkumar_be
on 13th January 2009 07:57 PM
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Naan Kadavul moolama ithanai paravasam adanjum, i'm keeping my expectations tempered. Paarppom
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From: Nerd
on 14th January 2009 08:57 AM
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Paper Ad says inRu mudhal isai veLiyeedu. Any luck, anyone
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From: ajaybaskar
on 14th January 2009 09:06 AM
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Heard that the function is scheduled for today....Audio will be available in stores after couple of days...
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From: MrJudge
on 14th January 2009 10:59 AM
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Got hold of the CD.. It has six tracks:
1. mella oorndhu oorndhu - Ilaiyaraaja - Na.Muthukumar
2. oNNukkoNNu - KJ Yesudas - Mu.Mehta
3. thAlAttu kEtka nAnum - Ilaiyaraaja - Muthulingam
4. kai veesi - Vijay Yesudas, Suwetha, Mathu Balakrishnan, Rahul, Chandrasekar - Pazhani Bharathy
5. oru vAndu koottamE - Ilaiyaraaja, Master Yaththeeswaran - Kabilan
6. eililEa eililEa (Gypsy song) - performed by Saroja ammAL
Songs 4 & 5 are excluded from the movie.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 14th January 2009 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge
Got hold of the CD.. It has six tracks:
1. mella oorndhu oorndhu - Ilaiyaraaja - Na.Muthukumar
2. oNNukkoNNu - KJ Yesudas - Mu.Mehta
3. thAlAttu kEtka nAnum - Ilaiyaraaja - Muthulingam
4. kai veesi - Vijay Yesudas, Suwetha, Mathu Balakrishnan, Rahul, Chandrasekar - Pazhani Bharathy
5. oru vAndu koottamE - Ilaiyaraaja, Master Yaththeeswaran - Kabilan
6. eililEa eililEa (Gypsy song) - performed by Saroja ammAL
Songs 4 & 5 are excluded from the movie.
in chennai?
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From: ajaybaskar
on 14th January 2009 11:33 AM
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Master Yathesswaran is son of karthik Raja,right?
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From: HonestRaj
on 14th January 2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Master Yathesswaran is son of karthik Raja,right?
adhe adhe en doubt-un adhe..
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From: littlemaster1982
on 14th January 2009 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
HonestRaj

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Master Yathesswaran is son of karthik Raja,right?
adhe adhe en doubt-un adhe..

Yes
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From: viraajan
on 14th January 2009 09:25 PM
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From: Anban
on 14th January 2009 11:12 PM
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From: Vivasaayi
on 14th January 2009 11:17 PM
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which of the two songs are being picturised for the movie?
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From: Anban
on 14th January 2009 11:32 PM
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seriously,
i think this is Raaja's best album after Baarathi..
Thirvaasagam might be the best ever but thats not for a movie..
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From: Anban
on 14th January 2009 11:34 PM
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movie probably will be released by end of this month, will know in a couple of days. onnukkonnu, thalatu ketka, eliliye eliliye songs r there in the movie...melle oornthu oornthu is partially der...
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs...09776938249912
LV srikanth, one of the Line producers in orkt...
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From: Anban
on 14th January 2009 11:44 PM
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onnukonnu ----- timeless classic.. KJY singing

out of this world..
mela oornthu oornthu ---- awesome again...
elile elile --- its very wierd.. some @%$%#@^ lyrics
kai veesi ---- aiyyooo.. its superb again..
oru vaandu koottame.. --- chanceless again... thaaru maaru..
thaalaattu ketta -- a sad song.. its good too.. but not like as others..
technically, i dunno how to review this album.. its tooooo good .. have to listen again and again..
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From: Sanjeevi
on 14th January 2009 11:46 PM
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I am in love with the songs
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From: Anban
on 14th January 2009 11:47 PM
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naan kadavul album is nothing compared to this.. thats my opinion..
Nandalala ... woww... nijamaale, thaalaattu thaan..
visuals-e thevai illa pola.. (this is my friend's opinion .. dei naaye naan sonnaathu ellaathaiyum nee eluthuriyea daa-n sollraan.. )
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From: MrJudge
on 14th January 2009 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
naan kadavul album is nothing compared to this.. thats my opinion..
Nandalala ... woww... nijamaale, thaalaattu thaan..
visuals-e thevai illa pola.. (this is my friend's opinion .. dei naaye naan sonnaathu ellaathaiyum nee eluthuriyea daa-n sollraan.. )
I am on the opposite side, for me NK sounds better than nandhalAlA.
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From: Anban
on 15th January 2009 12:01 AM
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Judge, chumma pechukku sollaatheenga.. may be NK album suits that movie the best, but for sheer listening pleasure, Nandalaala is far greater..
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From: MrJudge
on 15th January 2009 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
Judge, chumma pechukku sollaatheenga.. may be NK album suits that movie the best, but for sheer listening pleasure, Nandalaala is far greater..
Do you think so? I like couple of songs in nandhalAlA and I guess it will be good with visuals as Mysskin has good taste for filming the songs. But as an album, NK scores for me as of now.
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From: Anban
on 15th January 2009 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Anban
Judge, chumma pechukku sollaatheenga.. may be NK album suits that movie the best, but for sheer listening pleasure, Nandalaala is far greater..
Do you think so? I like couple of songs in nandhalAlA and I guess it will be good with visuals as Mysskin has good taste for filming the songs. But as an album, NK scores for me as of now.
lyrics.. singing.. interlude, prelude.. everything is sooo good.. etho thani ulagathula irkkura maathiri irkku...
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From: MrJudge
on 15th January 2009 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
lyrics.. singing.. interlude, prelude.. everything is sooo good.. etho thani ulagathula irkkura maathiri irkku...
I think songs are so simple.

Only two songs appealed to me in the first listening, need to listen more times I guess.
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From: Anban
on 15th January 2009 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Anban
lyrics.. singing.. interlude, prelude.. everything is sooo good.. etho thani ulagathula irkkura maathiri irkku...
I think songs are so simple.

Only two songs appealed to me in the first listening, need to listen more times I guess.
songs simple thaan.. feelings-thaan engeyo irkkku
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From: crajkumar_be
on 15th January 2009 01:07 AM
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Karthi reaction-a paatha vaayila beer-a mondu oothara madhiri irukku, aanaa

Originally Posted by
MrJudge
I think songs are so simple.

This is exactly why i said my expectations were tempered because subjectu, scope appadi. I don't think there will be any high octane stuff or moments of great surprise. Raaja would have given perfectly apt songs, adhu vera vishayam... seri, pecha korachittu paatta kekkaren...
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From: Nerd
on 15th January 2009 08:20 AM
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mella oornthu - What prelude-yA! The guitar piano duet is very soothing. Nice song.
onnukkonnu - KJY is amazing in this song. Boy is he really 60+??
thAlAttu kEtkum - The cello+violin in the first interlude is superb. Love Raja's singing.
kai veesi - Excellent. The kai veesi nadakkuRa kAthE line reminds me of some other Raja song. Adhu edhu-nu yaaraavadhu sollungaLEn. The ludes lack the punch though. But this songs not in the movie.
oru vaaNdu koottamE - Raja's voice for this song is misfit. He has tried to freak out but the worst part is, it shows. The percussion in the first lude is good. And WTH is the second interlude?
Gypsy song - Skip.
Definitely a good album, but NK is much better, IMO. But I think this is the type of music the movie warrants. And intha maathiri simple albums kEttu rembba naaL aachu
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From: Anban
on 15th January 2009 04:18 PM
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GYpsy song is not a song at all.. its very very weird.. its like tribal ppl's chants..
Kai veesi song is really goood..
oru vaandu koottame starts off normally and gets grander as it grows on us..
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From: crajkumar_be
on 15th January 2009 04:23 PM
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After one and a half listening,
Kai Veesi Nadakkura Kaatre (Sujatha ponnu 'Suwedha' paadirukkaangala? koral appadiye irukku?!!)

Onnukkonnu

Mella Oorndhu
Elilea Elilea is somehow haunting...
Thalaattu Ketka Naanum is a bit disappointing
Overall, pretty much as per my expectation. Simple, melodious music laced with some good moments and with the usual synth suspects (which thankfully don't stick out)
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From: HonestRaj
on 15th January 2009 07:16 PM
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Mysskin seeks Illayaraja's forgiveness
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, January 15, 2009]
Nandhalala Gallery
Director Mysskin who is coming up with 'Nandhalala' was particular to have maestro Illayaraja's music for the film especially because the film is expected to have tremendous emotions in it. It is reported that Mysskin wanted the maestro to come up with five songs.
The music was composed and as time went by, Mysskin was engrossed with filming and decided to use just two songs. Director Mysskin said at the 'Nandhalala' Audio launch function recently that he was pained to use just two of the songs as that was what the film demanded.
'I went to Illayaraja to tell him about it. The maestro was pained to hear about it and said if I was indirectly saying the songs were not good. I fell at his feet and told him that I was not even familiar with my mother's lullabies and that Illayaraja's music has been everything to me. I grew up on your music sir'.
The director also added that Illayaraja wanted to add some musical expressions to the film and the final output is simply stunning.
However, all five songs feature in the music album of 'Nandhalala'.
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/44298.html
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From: HonestRaj
on 15th January 2009 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Anban
lyrics.. singing.. interlude, prelude.. everything is sooo good.. etho thani ulagathula irkkura maathiri irkku...
I think songs are so simple.

Only two songs appealed to me in the first listening, need to listen more times I guess.
songs simple thaan.. feelings-thaan engeyo irkkku
Raaja simple-ah irukkuradhuthan avaroda plus point-eh (IMO)
pala paattula verum tokku tokku saththam mattumthan irukkum.. aana manasula medhuva nolanjukittu irukkum

(IMO again)
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From: HonestRaj
on 15th January 2009 07:23 PM
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From: Nerd
on 16th January 2009 08:22 AM
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From: Nerd
on 16th January 2009 09:28 AM
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Vijay TV Nandhalala Special - A very nice program
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Looking at the shooting spot clippings seems its heavily inspired by kikujiro.
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From: MrJudge
on 16th January 2009 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Yes, oraLavukku ozhungA padam edukkaravanga ellAm Raja fans thAn, doesn't it tell us something?
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From: crajkumar_be
on 16th January 2009 11:44 AM
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From: Anban
on 16th January 2009 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Nerd
Yes, oraLavukku ozhungA padam edukkaravanga ellAm Raja fans thAn, doesn't it tell us something?

exactly..
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From: Anban
on 17th January 2009 01:25 AM
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From: complicateur
on 17th January 2009 01:31 AM
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I'm glad I'll be in town to watch this movie. Exceptional trailer. Thanks Anban
At about the 1:00 minute mark I see a little RashOmoN [the fight in the forest between the thief and the husband]. Myskin wears his influences on his sleeve. And of course the recognition of rAjA's input is admirable.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 17th January 2009 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel&v=Jp00eU-ZgIo
Mysskin's teaser for Nandhalala
I'm not comfortable with Mysskin changing the role of that loevable wacko to a mentally retarded one. The teaser compounds my reservations
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
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From: complicateur
on 17th January 2009 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
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From: Anban
on 17th January 2009 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
yea . it grows on us.. its quiet good... the only word i cud decipher is KARUVAADU
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From: A_Ajith
on 17th January 2009 01:48 AM
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The trailer music is awesome! :P
Indian directors are terrific in churning out tragedy they cannot bring out a touching story like forrest gump with the humour, instead they make it sentimental
Trailer looks promising hope its a good movie.
@ ANBAN, i agree on yur point on BHARATHI ALBUM
Nallathor Veenai Seidhen is an awesome song in BHARATHI.
Soul Stirring composition and singing by IR
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From: jaiganes
on 17th January 2009 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
yea . it grows on us.. its quiet good... the only word i cud decipher is KARUVAADU

add Gulaab jaan to the list of words mined
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From: Hulkster
on 17th January 2009 07:06 AM
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Well elilea was not composed by raja so that removes the happiness away from me. Except for the lyrics the way it goes is haunting.
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
I like it too. Mysskin was talking about it couple of times in his interviews so it will be good on screen with visuals.
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
yea . it grows on us.. its quiet good... the only word i cud decipher is KARUVAADU

add Gulaab jaan to the list of words mined
I've heard only gulaab jaan so far, not karuvaadu yet.
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From: jaiganes
on 17th January 2009 10:49 AM
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Lot of hindi in it - pahaad and so on..
I played it to my daughter and she loved it!!
The lady's voice is very affecting. I mean playing it causes some sort of melancholic feel. Can't say what it is - need to see the visuals.
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel&v=Jp00eU-ZgIo
Mysskin's teaser for Nandhalala
Wow, the photography is brilliant. Mahesh Muthusamy
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From: Nerd
on 17th January 2009 01:08 PM
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My money is on NK definitely. NL seems to be a rip-off of Kikujiro. Like most other rip-offs, the original might be much better. OTOH, with Bala you can be assured that the movie will be 100% original and mindblowing. NK would and should sweep away all the national awards. NL would be good as well, no two ways about it (Ilayaraja, Mahesh Muthuswamy and Mysskin) Two terrific movies to look forward to. I am also looking forward to aanandha thaaNdavam this February
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From: HonestRaj
on 17th January 2009 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
with Bala you can be assured that the movie will be 100% original and mindblowing.
one of the reason why I want Bala's film to be a success

Originally Posted by
Nerd
NK would and should sweep away all the national awards.
Me too expecting
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From: Anban
on 17th January 2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
yea . it grows on us.. its quiet good... the only word i cud decipher is KARUVAADU

add Gulaab jaan to the list of words mined
I've heard only gulaab jaan so far, not karuvaadu yet.

gulab jaamun thaane correct. so gulab jaan is rejected..
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
complicateur

Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Secondly, the haunting "Elile" song, why is everybody dissing it?
I quite like it actually.
yea . it grows on us.. its quiet good... the only word i cud decipher is KARUVAADU

add Gulaab jaan to the list of words mined
I've heard only gulaab jaan so far, not karuvaadu yet.

gulab jaamun thaane correct. so gulab jaan is rejected..
No, it's 'gulaab jaan' only, and 'karuvaadu' is rejected, it is 'karuvatu banaai'
The song is similar to and sounds like african tribal songs.
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
My money is on NK definitely. NL seems to be a rip-off of Kikujiro. Like most other rip-offs, the original might be much better. OTOH, with Bala you can be assured that the movie will be 100% original and mindblowing. NK would and should sweep away all the national awards. NL would be good as well, no two ways about it (Ilayaraja, Mahesh Muthuswamy and Mysskin) Two terrific movies to look forward to. I am also looking forward to aanandha thaaNdavam this February

Yes, Nerd, no one's denying that NL is based on Kikujiro and NK is an original movie. But NL will reach more people outside TN if it is marketed properly. Bala has been original so far and he scores more on this aspect than Mysskin right now. I wish Mysskin to come up with original stories and scripts in future.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 17th January 2009 05:34 PM
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judge,
previous two scripts by myshkin are original right?
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From: steveaustin
on 17th January 2009 05:49 PM
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Nandhalala Review - Class!
Music review By Malathy Sundaram
Produced by K.Karunamoorthy,C.Arunpandian and directed by Mysskin( of ‘Anjaathe’ fame) and starring Mysskin, Nasser and others. The story revolves around the bond between a young kid who is searching for his mother, and an older man who helps him in this. Mysskin’s films are not breezy and are supposed to be layered with nuances.
This film is unique in the sense that there is a 40- minute climax which is all music and unarticulated! And a vital character in the film appears for just 12 seconds! The director says ‘I direct only 50% of my movies. Let the viewers direct the rest’. With Ilayaraja composing music for this complex movie, we can hardly wait for it to hit the screens. Six songs are featured in the album, but songs no.4 and 5 have been taken away from the movie. Why?
Mella oorndhu oorndhu...
Vocals: Ilayaraja
Lyrics: Na.Muthukumar
3 stars
This song softly trundles along just like the movement of the ‘ther’ or car that is mentioned in the song. The rhythms are unhurried, the guitar and violin notes tinkle along lazily and the keys add a soft tonal richness to the piece. Speaks a little bit of philosophy too. Well conceived.
Onnukkonnu...
Vocals: K.J.Jesudas
Lyrics: Mu.Mehta
3.5 stars
Rather moving verses that speak of the all-conquering power of selfless love, ‘anbu’ as the poet aptly puts it. The right choice of Jesudas as the singer—he effortlessly brings out the poignancy in the song. Sensitive handling of native percussions, fine use of keys and measured notes from the flute and guitar all contribute to the overall effect of this song based on the Sankarabaranam mettu, like the first song.
Thalattu Ketka...
Vocals: Ilayaraja
Lyrics: Muthulingam
This huskily rendered song somehow reminds us of a couple of old Ilayaraja hits themselves. Another pathos-laden number with slow rhythms that speaks sentimentally of the sacrifices that mothers usually make in their lives. Suitably, the violin and guitar are subdued. When the singer goes ‘entha pillai theerthadundu?’ in the second charanam, the violin (?) essays a sad high pitched note that moves you.
4 stars
Kai Veesi...
Vocals: Vijay Yesudas, Swetha, Madhu Balakrishnan, Rahul, Chandrasekar
Lyrics: Palanibarathy
Such a pretty song that you wonder why this was excluded from the movie! Conceived on the Natabairavi scale ,the opening guitar piece that goes ‘ni sa sa sa ni sa sa sa ----ga ri sa ni sa ri and then ‘ga ga ri ri sa sa’ is so very stylish and so are the trendy rhythms in spite of the chatusra nadai. The way the flute and the guitar sing along with the voices, speak of the deftness of the composer. Sometimes the flute just slides into the keys. A song that goes wondering about the charms of Nature.
3 stars
Oru Vaandu Koottame...
Vocals: Ilayaraja, Master Yatheeswaran( grandson?).
Lyrics: Kabilan
Another charming number in the Sankarabaranam scale—again you wonder why it has been left out in the movie! What a rich tapestry of rhythms and other musical instruments—like the guitar, violin, flute and keys! The percussions have been so carefully layered that there is so much ‘sowkyam’ built into the number. Celebrates the carefree spirit of childhood with sweet lyrics.
3 stars
Elilea, Elilea...
Vocals: Saroja Ammal
A small fascinating piece, a ‘narikkorava’ song , this time. Of course you don’t understand the words, but watch how well the rhythm(udukkai) has been planned to move along with the ebb and flow of the song itself!
2.5 stars
A very pensive, quiet album from the maestro this time, in keeping with the serious theme of the movie. Slightly melancholic, but what perfect crafting! You need to listen to it quite a few times to savor the delicate musical notes woven into the album-so like a lovely silk saree! Quality recording, too. Focused cinematography can really enhance the musical experience.
Verdict: 3.5 stars
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mus...andhalala.html
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
judge,
previous two scripts by myshkin are original right?
Yes, both are original only. But some sequences in anjAthEy had Akira's influences (from 'High and Low'......not very much.... slightly). But I don't see anybody's influence in Bala's movies so far.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 17th January 2009 05:57 PM
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kai veesi and onnukonnu would had been picturised i guess
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
kai veesi and onnukonnu would had been picturised i guess

No man....thAlAttu kEtka should be there. He can't delete that song from the movie.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 17th January 2009 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
MrJudge

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
kai veesi and onnukonnu would had been picturised i guess

No man....thAlAttu kEtka should be there. He can't delete that song from the movie.
but only two songs it seems...all three songs are good.
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
but only two songs it seems...all three songs are good.
Yes, that is what Myskkin said in the function but the CD inlay card says that song nos. 4 & 5 are not in the movie.

I like 5 & 1/2 songs in the album.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 17th January 2009 06:21 PM
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4 not in the movie?
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From: MrJudge
on 17th January 2009 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
4 not in the movie?

Yes, definitely 'kai veesi' is not there. Only 2 songs from the first 3 numbers, so it is very tough to guess them because all three numbers can very much gel with the theme.
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From: vasanth2006
on 17th January 2009 11:10 PM
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http://www.techsatish.net/2009/01/16/17905/
Good interview......Myskin has excellent views about cinema....
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From: Nerd
on 18th January 2009 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
vasanth2006
http://www.techsatish.net/2009/01/16/17905/
Good interview......Myskin has excellent views about cinema....
Thanks. This guy seems to be very interesting. And the words are straight from his heart. Are the BGM pieces they played from Nandhalala?? They sounded terrific. Also Mysskin said Raja was disappointed that Mysskin is going to *waste* 2 songs. Well, naturally
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From: irir123
on 21st January 2009 07:16 PM
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Nerd - i wasnt tat impressed wth the bgm tracks i heard durin tat interview - they sounded like some keyboard stuff - i await the full-fledged orchestral stuff from IR (for the last 40 min of NL)!!
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From: MrJudge
on 2nd February 2009 02:29 PM
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nandhalAlA's official site has got 'making of nandhalAlA' video, not sure whether it was aired or not.
http://www.nandalalathemovie.com/
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From: Nerd
on 18th February 2009 09:49 AM
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ஸ்னிக்தா-மிஷ்கினின் நந்தலாலா ஒத்திவைப்பு
மிஷ்கின் முதல் முறையாக ஹீரோவாக நடித்துள்ள நந்தலாலா படத்தின் திரையீடு ஒத்திவைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.
மிஷ்கினே எழுதி, இயக்கி ஹீரோவாக நடித்துள்ள படம் நந்தலாலா. கத்தாழைக் கண்ணாலே பாடல் மூலம் ஹிட் ஆன அழகு நடிகை ஸ்னிக்தா இப்படத்தில் மிஷ்கினுக்கு ஜோடியாக நடித்துள்ளார்.
பிப்ரவரி 20ம் தேதி இப்படம் திரையிடப்படுவதாக இருந்தது. ஆனால் தற்போது மார்ச் மாதத்திற்கு ஒத்திவைக்கப்பட்டு விட்டது.
இதுகுறித்து படத் தயாரிப்பாளரான ஐங்கரண் இன்டர்நேஷனல் நிறுவனத்தின் கருணாமூர்த்தி கூறுகையில், பிப்ரவரி மாதம் நிறையப் படங்கள் ரிலீஸாகின்றன. இதனால் தியேட்டர்கள் கிடைப்பதில் திண்டாட்டம் ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.
எனவேதான் மார்ச் மாதத்தில் படத்தை திரையிடுவது உசிதமாக இருக்கும் என கருதி மார்ச்சுக்கு ஒத்திவைத்துள்ளோம் என்றார்.
ஏற்கனவே இளையராஜாவின் இசையில் உருவாகியுள்ள பாடல்கள் ஹிட் ஆகியுள்ளன. படம் குறித்து பெரும் எதிர்பார்ப்பும் உள்ளது.
பொறுத்திருப்போம் மார்ச் வரை..
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From: vasanth2006
on 17th March 2009 07:08 AM
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From: rajasaranam
on 17th March 2009 03:12 PM
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Mysskin is doing in NL, that which Bala missed doing in NK
..... whose name will roll immediately after Ilayaraja’s name in the title.
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From: irir123
on 30th May 2009 05:25 AM
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What happened to the release of NANDALALA ??
May 31 is just two days away !
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From: irir123
on 12th June 2009 12:37 AM
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still no news abt NANDALALA release ????
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From: Nerd
on 27th July 2009 07:55 AM
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Finally, some good news.
Nandalala trailer premičred!
By Moviebuzz | Sunday, 26 July , 2009, 19:01
Last Friday, the trailer of Mysskin’s much talked about Nandalala was premiered along with the theatrical print of Aindham Padai.
Ayngaran International who are the presenters and distributors of both the films have come out with this idea, a popular concept in Bollywood.
By showing Mysskin’s film trailer along with a mass masala like Aindham Padai. Ayngaran is able to promote the film in B & C stations.
The 2 minute 30 second Nandalala trailer is slick, and provides the first glimpse of a mentally challenged person (Mysskin) and a school boy on what looks like a road trip.
The background is silent adding a poignant touch to the film, which is scheduled to release in the second week of August.
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From: app_engine
on 27th July 2009 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Finally, some good news.
Nandalala trailer premičred!
By Moviebuzz | Sunday, 26 July , 2009, 19:01
சுல்தான் ட்ரைலர் 2 வருஷத்துக்கு முன்னாடி சிவாஜி கூட காட்டின மாதிரி இல்லாமல் ரிலீஸ் பண்ணினா சரி 
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From: VinodKumar's
on 27th July 2009 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
Nerd
Finally, some good news.
Nandalala trailer premičred!
By Moviebuzz | Sunday, 26 July , 2009, 19:01
சுல்தான் ட்ரைலர் 2 வருஷத்துக்கு முன்னாடி சிவாஜி கூட காட்டின மாதிரி இல்லாமல் ரிலீஸ் பண்ணினா சரி 

producer mana noyali aagiruvaru pola ...
ayangaran aanalum romba nallavan - Aegan , villu , seval , sarvam nu vanthum use illa nandalala mari varama irunthum use illa
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From: HonestRaj
on 27th July 2009 09:10 PM
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vinod.. enna idhu..Villu flop'nu solreengala
edhukkum podaskie-kitta oru varthai kettukkanga
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From: viraajan
on 27th July 2009 09:12 PM
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Padam varumaa... romba aavala irukken
HR, villu hit ah?

yEn ippadi peedhiya kelappureenga... :P
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From: HonestRaj
on 27th July 2009 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
viraajan
Padam varumaa... romba aavala irukken
HR, villu hit ah?

yEn ippadi peedhiya kelappureenga... :P
edhukku enkitta ketkureenga..... poyi related threads'la parunga
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From: viraajan
on 27th July 2009 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
HonestRaj

Originally Posted by
viraajan
Padam varumaa... romba aavala irukken
HR, villu hit ah?

yEn ippadi peedhiya kelappureenga... :P
edhukku enkitta ketkureenga..... poyi related threads'la parunga
villu flop'anu vinod'a neenga ketta maadiri thaan :P
thread'la poyi pakkara alavukku, idhellam mattere ella
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From: VinodKumar's
on 27th July 2009 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
HonestRaj
vinod.. enna idhu..Villu flop'nu solreengala
edhukkum podaskie-kitta oru varthai kettukkanga
hit nu sollura podaskie kiitayum sandaiku poringa

... average nu

sollura enkitayum appdi lam yean solluraenu ketkiringa ... eksi

...
enakku therinju kadaisi vijay oda disaster naa athu aadhi thaan mathathellam atleast oru 2 3 weeks natchum nalla collection irunthuchu ...
seri venumna intha topic ah nama thalaivar threadukku mathiduvom ... illaena inga varavanga kadiaagiruvanga ...
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From: littlemaster1982
on 8th August 2009 04:52 PM
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கமல் பரிந்துரைக்கும் படம்! திரையுலகம் வியப்பு
நந்தலாலா படத்தை பற்றிய எதிர்பார்ப்பு நாளுக்கு நாள் எகிறிக் கொண்டே போகிறது. இந்த எதிர்பார்ப்புக்கு இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் உரம் போட்ட மாதிரி இருக்கிறது கமல்ஹாசனின் ரெகமெண்டேஷன். ஒருநாள் மிஷ்கினை தனது ஆபிசுக்கு வரச்சொன்ன கமல், சுமார் நாலு மணி நேரம் பேசிக் கொண்டிருந்தாராம். அதன்பின் இவரது நந்தலாலா படத்தை பார்த்தாராம். அவ்வளவுதான்... தமிழ்சினிமா விவிஐபிகள் 100 பேருக்காவது போன் செய்து பேசியிருப்பாராம். எல்லாரிடமும் இந்த படம் ரொம்ப பிரமாதமா இருக்கு. இது வெளிவந்தால் தமிழ்சினிமாவுக்கு பெருமை என்ற ரீதியில் பேச, இன்ப அதிர்ச்சியில் திக்கு முக்காடி போயிருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின்.
சன் டிவியின் செயல் தலைவர் சக்ஸேனாவுக்கு போன் செய்த கமல், “இந்த படத்தை சன் பிக்சர்ஸ் வாங்கணும். அவ்வளவு நல்ல படம்” என்று கூறியிருப்பது இன்னும் அதிக எதிர்பார்ப்பை கூட்டியிருக்கிறது.
அவ்வளவு பெரிய கலைஞன் என்னை பாராட்டுவது ரொம்பவே நெகிழ்ச்சியாக இருக்கு. சித்திரம் பேசுதடி வெற்றிக்கு பிறகு நந்தலாலாவை எடுக்கணும்னு நினைச்சேன். ஆனால் முடியலே. ஒரு கட்டத்தில் திரும்பவம் லேண்ட் மார்க்குக்கு வேலைக்கு போயிடலாமா என்று கூட நினைச்சேன். அப்படி போயிருந்தா இவ்வளவு பெரிய கலைஞனின் பாராட்டு கிடைச்சிருக்குமா? என்று நெக்குருகினார் மிஷ்கின்.
நந்தலாலா வரும்போது வரட்டும் என்று புதிய பட வேலைகளில் இறங்கிவிட்டாராம். அநேகமாக இந்த கதையில் சேரன் நடிப்பார் போலிருக்கிறது. ஆக்ஷன் வேடம் என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
__________________________
Idhu unmaiya
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From: Appu s
on 8th August 2009 05:37 PM
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Master enga irunthu pudichenga intha news ?
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From: littlemaster1982
on 8th August 2009 05:40 PM
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Orkut-la paarthen. Source podala
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From: P_R
on 8th August 2009 05:41 PM
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ஆக்ஷன் வேடம்
என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
requirement romba obvious-ngra maadhiri ezhudhuraainga
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From: Appu s
on 8th August 2009 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
Prabhu Ram
ஆக்ஷன் வேடம்
என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
requirement romba obvious-ngra maadhiri ezhudhuraainga

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From: Appu s
on 8th August 2009 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Orkut-la paarthen. Source podala

ok ok

,
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From: crajkumar_be
on 8th August 2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Prabhu Ram
ஆக்ஷன் வேடம்
என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
requirement romba obvious-ngra maadhiri ezhudhuraainga


Bruce Lee, Jocky Chaan, arnaaldu, Jean Claude vENdAm ellam idhu theriyama irundhuttaanga!
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From: P_R
on 8th August 2009 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Jean Claude vENdAm
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From: Plum
on 8th August 2009 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
Prabhu Ram
ஆக்ஷன் வேடம்
என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
requirement romba obvious-ngra maadhiri ezhudhuraainga


Bruce Lee, Jocky Chaan, arnaaldu, Jean Claude
vENdAm ellam idhu theriyama irundhuttaanga!

CR, unga ingenuitykku oru aLavE illaiya...
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From: Benny Lava
on 8th August 2009 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
[bதமிழ்சினிமா விவிஐபிகள் 100 பேருக்காவது போன் செய்து பேசியிருப்பாராம்.
100 pera
If they are so many in number, how can they be VVIP's
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From: Nerd
on 8th August 2009 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
கமல் பரிந்துரைக்கும் படம்! திரையுலகம் வியப்பு
நந்தலாலா படத்தை பற்றிய எதிர்பார்ப்பு நாளுக்கு நாள் எகிறிக் கொண்டே போகிறது. இந்த எதிர்பார்ப்புக்கு இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் உரம் போட்ட மாதிரி இருக்கிறது கமல்ஹாசனின் ரெகமெண்டேஷன். ஒருநாள் மிஷ்கினை தனது ஆபிசுக்கு வரச்சொன்ன கமல், சுமார் நாலு மணி நேரம் பேசிக் கொண்டிருந்தாராம். அதன்பின் இவரது நந்தலாலா படத்தை பார்த்தாராம். அவ்வளவுதான்... தமிழ்சினிமா விவிஐபிகள் 100 பேருக்காவது போன் செய்து பேசியிருப்பாராம். எல்லாரிடமும் இந்த படம் ரொம்ப பிரமாதமா இருக்கு. இது வெளிவந்தால் தமிழ்சினிமாவுக்கு பெருமை என்ற ரீதியில் பேச, இன்ப அதிர்ச்சியில் திக்கு முக்காடி போயிருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின்.
சன் டிவியின் செயல் தலைவர் சக்ஸேனாவுக்கு போன் செய்த கமல், “இந்த படத்தை சன் பிக்சர்ஸ் வாங்கணும். அவ்வளவு நல்ல படம்” என்று கூறியிருப்பது இன்னும் அதிக எதிர்பார்ப்பை கூட்டியிருக்கிறது.
அவ்வளவு பெரிய கலைஞன் என்னை பாராட்டுவது ரொம்பவே நெகிழ்ச்சியாக இருக்கு. சித்திரம் பேசுதடி வெற்றிக்கு பிறகு நந்தலாலாவை எடுக்கணும்னு நினைச்சேன். ஆனால் முடியலே. ஒரு கட்டத்தில் திரும்பவம் லேண்ட் மார்க்குக்கு வேலைக்கு போயிடலாமா என்று கூட நினைச்சேன். அப்படி போயிருந்தா இவ்வளவு பெரிய கலைஞனின் பாராட்டு கிடைச்சிருக்குமா? என்று நெக்குருகினார் மிஷ்கின்.
நந்தலாலா வரும்போது வரட்டும் என்று புதிய பட வேலைகளில் இறங்கிவிட்டாராம். அநேகமாக இந்த கதையில் சேரன் நடிப்பார் போலிருக்கிறது. ஆக்ஷன் வேடம் என்பதால் இப்பவே தாடி வளர்க்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறாராம் சேரன்.
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Idhu unmaiya 
"Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru" Audio laanj-la idha sonnAr Mysskin. BUt he dint mention Kamal's name. He said "periya nilaiyil irukkum oruvar" (not verbatim)
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From: crajkumar_be
on 8th August 2009 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
"Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru" Audio laanj-la idha sonnAr Mysskin. BUt he dint mention Kamal's name. He said "periya nilaiyil irukkum oruvar" (not verbatim)
Appadi nu oru padama?!
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From: viraajan
on 8th August 2009 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
Nerd
"Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru" Audio laanj-la idha sonnAr Mysskin. BUt he dint mention Kamal's name. He said "periya nilaiyil irukkum oruvar" (not verbatim)
Appadi nu oru padama?!
saar short name 4T'nu sir
Yes CR. Producer: Satyam Cinemas

Satyameva Jeyadhe!
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From: P_R
on 8th August 2009 10:39 PM
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"Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru"

byootiful name
VV: remba rolling aagudhu
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From: Nerd
on 8th August 2009 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be

Originally Posted by
Nerd
"Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru" Audio laanj-la idha sonnAr Mysskin. BUt he dint mention Kamal's name. He said "periya nilaiyil irukkum oruvar" (not verbatim)
Appadi nu oru padama?!
ennang ipdi kEttuputteenga? Audio release panninadhu Kamalahaasan. Ajmal hero, directed by a lady, KaNda naaL mudhal director-Oda assistant.
I saw the audio release videos somewhere in the internet. KSR, Rajini sivaji-kkku bayandhu oLinju dhum adichadha pathiyellAm sonnAr. Kamal, thEvar magan paththi konjam pEsinaar. Link ippO sikka mAttengudhu.
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From: crajkumar_be
on 8th August 2009 10:44 PM
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Finger pointing to self a la Puyal: "Nee ellam fans aada!"
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From: Raikkonen
on 8th August 2009 10:46 PM
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yes i read her (director) interview in vikatan..
shappa.. sagikala.. heroine & hero (w/ clash of personalities) sanda podurathu avlo cute-aaama..
best bit should be this (the question)
yerkanave kushi,
siva manasula sakthi -nu pala padangal pirichu meinja subject.. epdi panna porenga??
santhadi sakkula epdi own movie-ya kondu vanthu trend setter range-ukku build up panranunga..
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From: Appu s
on 9th August 2009 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Finger pointing to self a la Puyal: "Nee ellam fans aada!"

சினிமாவில் நான் உருவானது முதல் தசாவதாரம் வரை டைரக்டர்கள் செய்துகாட்டுவதைத்தான் செய்திருக்கிறேன். அந்த வகையில்தான் கேட்டேனே தவிர வேறு காரணம் இல்லை.
20ம் நூற்றாண்டு கலைஞனான சிவாஜியை 19ம் நூற்றாண்டிலேயே நிறுத்தி இருந்தோம். அவருக்கு செய்ததுபோல் எனக்கு யாரும் துரோகம் செய்துவிடக்கூடாது. அதற்காகவே டைரக்டர்களை நடித்துக்காட்டச் சொல்கிறேன்
அப்போதுதான் புதுமைகள் வெளிப்படும். என் எதிர்கால வளர்ச்சி டைரக்டர்கள் கற்றுத் தருவதில்தான் இருக்கிறது.
தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் தங்களுக்கு வசதியாக ஊறுகாயை பாக்கெட்டில் போட்டதுபோல் படங்களை தரும்போது, நல்லபடம் வேண்டும் என ரசிகர்கள் கேட்க வேண்டும். அப்போதுதான் நல்ல படம் கிடைக்கும்’’என்று பேசினார்
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From: crajkumar_be
on 9th August 2009 01:34 AM
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From: MADDY
on 9th August 2009 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
KaNda naaL mudhal director-Oda assistant
adhuve oru estra luggage - maniratnathukku oru ava per, idhula idhukku oru assistantaaa

.....
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From: Plum
on 9th August 2009 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
crajkumar_be
Finger pointing to self a la Puyal: "Nee ellam fans aada!"

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From: Nerd
on 10th February 2010 09:01 PM
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http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies...nandalala.html
Onniyum periya matter illai. kalanthukitta ellA padathukkum reward kuduthirukkaanga
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From: joe
on 10th February 2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/awards/2010/02/10-people-choice-award-nandalala.html
Onniyum periya matter illai. kalanthukitta ellA padathukkum reward kuduthirukkaanga

ennathu ithu ..KalaimaamaNi maathiri vanjagam illama ellorukkum kuduthirukkanga
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From: Nerd
on 10th February 2010 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe

Originally Posted by
Nerd
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/awards/2010/02/10-people-choice-award-nandalala.html
Onniyum periya matter illai. kalanthukitta ellA padathukkum reward kuduthirukkaanga

ennathu ithu ..KalaimaamaNi maathiri vanjagam illama ellorukkum kuduthirukkanga

I think this film festival was to *promote* thamizh films in Norway. Was just excited that Nandhalala is in news again. Read somewhere that its going to release on Mar 20
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From: Sanjeevi
on 10th February 2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
joe

Originally Posted by
Nerd
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/awards/2010/02/10-people-choice-award-nandalala.html
Onniyum periya matter illai. kalanthukitta ellA padathukkum reward kuduthirukkaanga

ennathu ithu ..KalaimaamaNi maathiri vanjagam illama ellorukkum kuduthirukkanga

I think this film festival was to *promote* thamizh films in Norway. Was just excited that Nandhalala is in news again. Read somewhere that its going to release on Mar 20

Yeah I read somewhere it was Tamizh film festival in Norway
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From: Guru-V
on 15th February 2010 03:09 PM
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ayngaran has been postponing this film for way too long!
hopefully people did not forget about it, seems like it will be a good movie
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From: irir123
on 19th February 2010 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Guru-V
ayngaran has been postponing this film for way too long!
hopefully people did not forget about it, seems like it will be a good movie
not to blame ayngaran entirely- from what I have heard, they had to shelve the release of this film, because of the perceived 'uncommercial' aspects of the film!
the blame lies entirely on the unacquired unevolved tastes/sense of appreciation of tamil film audiences, who, barring a few exceptions like 'subramaniapuram' or 'eeram' dont have the palate for creative or well-made films
namma makkalukku 'parandhu parandhu' sanda podara scenum, punch dialog um, thevai illaadha comedy track um, star image um irundha podhum
all of this are symptomatic of the malaise afflicting our collective inability to appreciate good cinema - no wonder we dont get mahendrans, any longer
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From: P_R
on 19th February 2010 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
the blame lies entirely on the unacquired unevolved tastes/sense of appreciation of tamil film audiences, who, barring a few exceptions like 'subramaniapuram' or 'eeram' dont have the palate for creative or well-made films
namma makkalukku 'parandhu parandhu' sanda podara scenum, punch dialog um, thevai illaadha comedy track um, star image um irundha podhum
all of this are symptomatic of the malaise afflicting our collective inability to appreciate good cinema - no wonder we dont get mahendrans, any longer
எவ்வளவு நாளுங்க திட்டுவீங்க.
சென்னை -28 ஹிட்
அஞ்சாதே ஹிட்
வெண்ணிலா கபடி குழு கூட ஓடிச்சு
In the last few yeats I don't think many "good" movies flopped.
Even so-so but dibarent films* like பசங்க, நாடோடிகள் had a good run.
The actual problem now is குங்குப்பூவும் கொஞ்சுபுறாவும் asking to be taken seriously.
* this writer has exercised notable restraint in not contesting the status that கப்பிபுரம் has acquired even among the discening fublic
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From: app_engine
on 19th February 2010 08:34 PM
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PR
I've read somewhere that the BGM of nandha lAlA has been certified as 'உலகத்தரம்' by certain elements. And the director got a certificate as 'நம்மள மாதிரியே இருக்காரே இந்த ஆளு'.
That way, possibly the movie deserves the current situation
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From: AravindMano
on 19th February 2010 08:37 PM
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From: jaiganes
on 19th February 2010 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
PR
I've read somewhere that the BGM of nandha lAlA has been certified as 'உலகத்தரம்' by certain elements. And the director got a certificate as 'நம்மள மாதிரியே இருக்காரே இந்த ஆளு'.
That way, possibly the movie deserves the current situation

Adikka koodaadhu
Anbaala thiruththanum...
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From: app_engine
on 19th February 2010 08:53 PM
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jaiganes,
I am yet to see a Mysskin movie - interestingly, my b-i-l was with me when I visited the Indian store on both occasions when his movie dvd's were considered to be picked up (cp / anjAthE) and discouraged me. So, NL may be the first one - if and when available.
I like NL songs - the best TF album by IR last year IMO. That IR brought a few musicians from abroad for BGM work and that the movie is copied from a foreign movie are additional plus points (i.e. if both are true, unlike the phoney claim that oboe is used for the first time by IR in this movie).
வரட்டும், பாக்கலாம்.
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From: irir123
on 19th February 2010 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
irir123
the blame lies entirely on the unacquired unevolved tastes/sense of appreciation of tamil film audiences, who, barring a few exceptions like 'subramaniapuram' or 'eeram' dont have the palate for creative or well-made films
namma makkalukku 'parandhu parandhu' sanda podara scenum, punch dialog um, thevai illaadha comedy track um, star image um irundha podhum
all of this are symptomatic of the malaise afflicting our collective inability to appreciate good cinema - no wonder we dont get mahendrans, any longer
எவ்வளவு நாளுங்க திட்டுவீங்க.
சென்னை -28 ஹிட்
அஞ்சாதே ஹிட்
வெண்ணிலா கபடி குழு கூட ஓடிச்சு
In the last few yeats I don't think many "good" movies flopped.
Even so-so but dibarent films* like பசங்க, நாடோடிகள் had a good run.
The actual problem now is குங்குப்பூவும் கொஞ்சுபுறாவும் asking to be taken seriously.
* this writer has exercised notable restraint in not contesting the status that கப்பிபுரம் has acquired even among the discening fublic
wud be interested to know what % of films released in tamil qualify to be ones without punch dialogs, and the star nonsense ?
adhu varaikkum thittuvaen
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out, a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??
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From: jaiganes
on 20th February 2010 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by
irir123

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
irir123
the blame lies entirely on the unacquired unevolved tastes/sense of appreciation of tamil film audiences, who, barring a few exceptions like 'subramaniapuram' or 'eeram' dont have the palate for creative or well-made films
namma makkalukku 'parandhu parandhu' sanda podara scenum, punch dialog um, thevai illaadha comedy track um, star image um irundha podhum
all of this are symptomatic of the malaise afflicting our collective inability to appreciate good cinema - no wonder we dont get mahendrans, any longer
எவ்வளவு நாளுங்க திட்டுவீங்க.
சென்னை -28 ஹிட்
அஞ்சாதே ஹிட்
வெண்ணிலா கபடி குழு கூட ஓடிச்சு
In the last few yeats I don't think many "good" movies flopped.
Even so-so but dibarent films* like பசங்க, நாடோடிகள் had a good run.
The actual problem now is குங்குப்பூவும் கொஞ்சுபுறாவும் asking to be taken seriously.
* this writer has exercised notable restraint in not contesting the status that கப்பிபுரம் has acquired even among the discening fublic
wud be interested to know what % of films released in tamil qualify to be ones without punch dialogs, and the star nonsense ?
adhu varaikkum thittuvaen
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out, a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

Kalaignar used to tell abt tamil voters after a loss in election that they are 'soatraaladitha pindam' சோற்றால் அடித்த பிண்டங்கள்’
Much I dislike Kalaignar's politics, I could not find a more appropriate phrase for certain section of 'so- called' cinema lovers.
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From: venkkiram
on 20th February 2010 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out, a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

இதுல என்ன பெரிய காமெடின்னா, இவுங்க குடும்பத்தோட புள்ள குட்டிகளையெல்லாம் கூட்டிட்டு போய் பார்க்கிற கமர்ஷியல் படங்களில் ரெட்டை அர்த்த வசனம் வரும், படு கவர்ச்சியான கனவுப் பாடல்கள் எல்லாம் வரும்.. இதெல்லாம் கண்ணுக்கு தெரியாது!
பாலா படங்களை எல்லோரும் பார்க்க முடியாதுதான். ஒத்துக்கிறேன். அதே வேளையில், சிறார்களை எப்படி இப்படி படுமட்டமான கமர்ஷியல் படங்களுக்கு அழைச்சிட்டு போகத் துணிகிறார்கள்?
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From: Aalavanthan
on 20th February 2010 12:31 AM
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I think its the mistake from the producer's part and shows their confidence in releasing the movie.. Producers do listen to the story before accepting the script, and if they were happy with the production of the movie, they should be happy to release it with the confidence that they have in the story and the writer.
I dont even see Anjadhey as the "masala" movie just becoz it had "kathaala " and "kannadasan" song.. It had no flying fights, no punch dialogues, no "need-to-have" mother-sister sentiments but the movie ran well..
We are not very sure about the delay in the release of the movie. Remember.. its the exam season* in Chennai followed by IPL and every producer is hesitant to release their movie.. I was told, even though Irumbu kOttai murattu singam is completed with post production, they have stopped the release for a while. eppO 10th, 12th exams IPL mudiyumnu ini kaathirukanum.
Just trying to broaden the reasons for not releasing the movies..
*though its mid-feb, the preparations for exams are taken into consideration as well.
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From: app_engine
on 20th February 2010 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
Aalavanthan
We are not very sure about the delay in the release of the movie. Remember.. its the exam season* in Chennai
Seriously, do you mean ejjAm and such things behind nondhalAlA release?
The music album came out more than a year ago and the movie was ready soon after.
Even the news that Kamal watched it, recommended to SunTV etc (supposedly signed up the director for his movie) came months ago.
You must be kidding!
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From: jaiganes
on 20th February 2010 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
Aalavanthan
We are not very sure about the delay in the release of the movie. Remember.. its the exam season* in Chennai
Seriously, do you mean ejjAm and such things behind nondhalAlA release?
The music album came out more than a year ago and the movie was ready soon after.
Even the news that Kamal watched it, recommended to SunTV etc (supposedly signed up the director for his movie) came months ago.
You must be kidding!
aascaar ravi chandran vaangi release panninaal thaan undu pola...
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From: Nerd
on 20th February 2010 12:49 AM
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Nobody is willing to buy the film is the real reason. Having watched the Japanese original - I know why.
I did read some news item a month back which said the movie will be out in March.
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From: Aalavanthan
on 20th February 2010 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
Aalavanthan
We are not very sure about the delay in the release of the movie. Remember.. its the exam season* in Chennai
Seriously, do you mean ejjAm and such things behind nondhalAlA release?
The music album came out more than a year ago and the movie was ready soon after.
Even the news that Kamal watched it, recommended to SunTV etc (supposedly signed up the director for his movie) came months ago.
You must be kidding!
Whoz kidding ?
Given the timing that this discussion has come up, this is definitely a reason.. Just wait to see how many films get released in the next 3 months.. with IPL holding huge number of screens this year.
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From: app_engine
on 20th February 2010 01:23 AM
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ejjam / IPL etc may be reasons for many other movies but definitely NOT a reason for this film inside the cans for a year or more. (Actually Kamal himself seems to have switched directors / producers etc a few times after his alleged tie-up with Mysskin).
It's funny that this guy -who cannot get his own product to the market- tried to act smart and "gave recommendation letter" for a 800 movie veteran, telling that every director (like Shankar who shared dais) should work with him at least once
It's not surprising that IR ridiculed him on that stage itself and stormed out!
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 01:24 AM
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@app_engine,
are u using "nOndhalaalaa" intentionally??
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out,
a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

kuppathulayum nalla cinema rasigan irukkaan.. inthu maathi pseudo-high class soripudicha genmangal A-class centres-la irukku... infact they are the majority..
sethu, pithamagan, nandaa-kku apparam Naan Kadavul mattum avanukku pudicha maathiri irukkumnu avanunga nenaichaaingalaa..
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From: app_engine
on 20th February 2010 01:30 AM
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Not my invention

I just got that usage from a few websites that reported the pathetic plight of this venture
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ejjam / IPL etc may be reasons for many other movies but definitely NOT a reason for this film inside the cans for a year or more. (Actually Kamal himself seems to have switched directors / producers etc a few times after his alleged tie-up with Mysskin).
It's funny that this guy -who cannot get his own product to the market- tried to act smart and "gave recommendation letter" for a 800 movie veteran, telling that every director (like Shankar who shared dais) should work with him at least once
It's not surprising that IR ridiculed him on that stage itself and stormed out!
now.. such posts are making me really angry sometimes.. its his opinion that all directors shud work with raja.. athula enna sir thappu irukku..
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From: app_engine
on 20th February 2010 01:44 AM
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Like my posting (which is an opinion about something that may not be personally connected to you) makes you angry, why can't Mysskin's "opinion" make another individual angry as well?
எதற்கும் இடம், பொருள், ஏவல் இருக்கிறதல்லவா? It's possible he sounded bombastic (basking from his continuous two successes) ; the presence of the biggest promoter of Raja's biggest rival didn't help either - sure to hurt his ego!
Well, Mysskin reportedly got into trouble with his tongue again on another occasion, in front of Kamal. Not a great record for a 2-film-old guy!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ejjam / IPL etc may be reasons for many other movies but definitely NOT a reason for this film inside the cans for a year or more. (Actually Kamal himself seems to have switched directors / producers etc a few times after his alleged tie-up with Mysskin).
It's funny that this guy -who cannot get his own product to the market- tried to act smart and "gave recommendation letter" for a 800 movie veteran, telling that every director (like Shankar who shared dais) should work with him at least once
It's not surprising that IR ridiculed him on that stage itself and stormed out!
I posted something like this when this function happened itself....."yarukku yaarya recommendation pandradhu..."
childish talk
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 20th February 2010 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
irir123
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out,
a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

kuppathulayum nalla cinema rasigan irukkaan.. inthu maathi pseudo-high class soripudicha genmangal A-class centres-la irukku... infact they are the majority..
sethu, pithamagan, nandaa-kku apparam Naan Kadavul mattum avanukku pudicha maathiri irukkumnu avanunga nenaichaaingalaa..


'I don't watch tEmil philums' peeter pasanga tholla thaanga mudiyala... And, they'll watch FDFS Sivaji (Okay, Dasa too) and say... these stupid TFI people can't get a fraction of hollywod on screen... naansens!

What do they expect? 2012 kind of kaamedy? erichal!
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From: Appu s
on 20th February 2010 10:28 AM
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Athellam ok ungalukku kidaicha example Naan kadavul thaana?
naan kadavul oruthanukku pudikkalainna avan udane A class soripudicha molla maariya?
vera ethavathu padam example-kku koduthirukklam... as given by P_R...Anjathey,CH-28,VKK got genuine respond from our audience.
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Like my posting (which is an opinion about something that may not be personally connected to you) makes you angry, why can't Mysskin's "opinion" make another individual angry as well?
எதற்கும் இடம், பொருள், ஏவல் இருக்கிறதல்லவா? It's possible he sounded bombastic (basking from his continuous two successes) ; the presence of the biggest promoter of Raja's biggest rival didn't help either - sure to hurt his ego!
Well, Mysskin reportedly got into trouble with his tongue again on another occasion, in front of Kamal. Not a great record for a 2-film-old guy!

Originally Posted by
app_engine
Like my posting (which is an opinion about something that may not be personally connected to you) makes you angry, why can't Mysskin's "opinion" make another individual angry as well?
எதற்கும் இடம், பொருள், ஏவல் இருக்கிறதல்லவா? It's possible he sounded bombastic (basking from his continuous two successes) ; the presence of the biggest promoter of Raja's biggest rival didn't help either - sure to hurt his ego!
Well, Mysskin reportedly got into trouble with his tongue again on another occasion, in front of Kamal. Not a great record for a 2-film-old guy!
I get it.. you value experience.. But that doesnt mean that you have to look down upon a new comer.. I did READ somewhere that Kamal told him not to discourage newcomers like karthiga udayanithi on stage..
but..
all this is media interpretation.. i have attended a few functions of Kamal's .. media pasanga eppadi ellaam maathi eluthuvaanungannu athu maathiri functions-kku ponaa thaan puriyuthu..
I have heard that Raja is very egoistic.. but i dont know if that is true.. he gives great music.. thats all I want.. same way, Mysskin is way ahead of other newbie directors... infact one of the best in current cinema.. so, I encourage him.. you can watch his movies with your family for sure.. do watch Anjaathey.. you will agree with me.. its a classic..
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From: VENKIRAJA
on 20th February 2010 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
but.. all this is media interpretation.. i have attended a few functions of Kamal's .. media pasanga eppadi ellaam maathi eluthuvaanungannu athu maathiri functions-kku ponaa thaan puriyuthu..
Very true. Can notice how they shift bases when it comes to sensitive issues like Eelam or the lighter issues like Ajith's speech as well. I still remember the Superstar speculation!

Originally Posted by
Anban
I have heard that Raja is very egoistic.. but i dont know if that is true.. he gives great music.. thats all I want..
Can't agree more!
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From: Mahen
on 20th February 2010 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
app_engine
Like my posting (which is an opinion about something that may not be personally connected to you) makes you angry, why can't Mysskin's "opinion" make another individual angry as well?
எதற்கும் இடம், பொருள், ஏவல் இருக்கிறதல்லவா? It's possible he sounded bombastic (basking from his continuous two successes) ; the presence of the biggest promoter of Raja's biggest rival didn't help either - sure to hurt his ego!
Well, Mysskin reportedly got into trouble with his tongue again on another occasion, in front of Kamal. Not a great record for a 2-film-old guy!

Originally Posted by
app_engine
Like my posting (which is an opinion about something that may not be personally connected to you) makes you angry, why can't Mysskin's "opinion" make another individual angry as well?
எதற்கும் இடம், பொருள், ஏவல் இருக்கிறதல்லவா? It's possible he sounded bombastic (basking from his continuous two successes) ; the presence of the biggest promoter of Raja's biggest rival didn't help either - sure to hurt his ego!
Well, Mysskin reportedly got into trouble with his tongue again on another occasion, in front of Kamal. Not a great record for a 2-film-old guy!
I get it.. you value experience.. But that doesnt mean that you have to look down upon a new comer.. I did READ somewhere that Kamal told him not to discourage newcomers like karthiga udayanithi on stage..
but..
all this is media interpretation.. i have attended a few functions of Kamal's .. media pasanga eppadi ellaam maathi eluthuvaanungannu athu maathiri functions-kku ponaa thaan puriyuthu..
I have heard that Raja is very egoistic.. but i dont know if that is true.. he gives great music.. thats all I want.. same way, Mysskin is way ahead of other newbie directors... infact one of the best in current cinema.. so, I encourage him.. you can watch his movies with your family for sure.. do watch Anjaathey.. you will agree with me.. its a classic..
You are grossly overrating Myskin...First two movies was ok,IMO..Anjathey classic? ennale mudiyala...Some scenes were like stage plays...and the slo-mo shots

nandalala vera copy-nu kelvi patten..
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 02:21 PM
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Mahen.. seri athukkenna ippo...
kaalam bathil sollum paarunga...
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From: Mahen
on 20th February 2010 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
irir123
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out,
a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

kuppathulayum nalla cinema rasigan irukkaan.. i
nthu maathi pseudo-high class soripudicha genmangal A-class centres-la irukku... infact they are the majority..
sethu, pithamagan, nandaa-kku apparam Naan Kadavul mattum avanukku pudicha maathiri irukkumnu avanunga nenaichaaingalaa..

This is unnecessary..If they dont like it leave it..Im Tamil..I cant write and speak proper Tamil (so called A class audience) but i loved Naan Kadavul
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 02:22 PM
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Anjathe was just OK - thats what i felt when I watched it.
having said that there are few hair rising scenes in the movie
1.The old lady spilling flowers on the place where a guy was found injured on road
2.Livingston havinh heart attack when his wife was swearing hero's family.
3.ajmal sitting with briefs in the police station
prasanna and naren
first he must learn to make people act well...and few scenes where he probably tried to stamp his authority on screen were just ludicrous
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From: Mahen
on 20th February 2010 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
Mahen.. seri athukkenna ippo...
kaalam bathil sollum paarunga...
Paapom
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From: Mahen
on 20th February 2010 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Anjathe was just OK - thats what i felt when I watched it.
having said that there are few hair rising scenes in the movie
1.The old lady spilling flowers on the place where a guy was found injured on road
2.Livingston havinh heart attack when his wife was swearing hero's family.
3.ajmal sitting with briefs in the police station
prasanna and naren
first he must learn to make people act well...and few scenes where he probably tried to stamp his authority on screen were just ludicrous
Exactly my thoughts
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From: NOV
on 20th February 2010 02:26 PM
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Mahen, you A-class audience?

enakku onnum appadi therilaye
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From: joe
on 20th February 2010 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Anjathe was just OK - thats what i felt when I watched it.
Yes..I too felt the same. May be Good ,not Great.
Chithiram pesuthadi ,i watched it after so much hype and found except the twist and vazha meenukum song ,nothing impressive.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
joe

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Anjathe was just OK - thats what i felt when I watched it.
Yes..I too felt the same. May be Good ,not Great.
Chithiram pesuthadi ,i watched it after so much hype and found except the twist and vazha meenukum song ,nothing impressive.

the actors..especially naren behaved like a zombie in both the movies...
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From: NOV
on 20th February 2010 02:38 PM
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I liked Anjathe very much and considered it the best film of that year. :P
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
NOV
I liked Anjathe very much and considered it the best film of that year. :P
sooper!! andha padathu mela irundha konja nanja madhippum pochu..
j/k NOV
This was the most critically acclaimed film of that year as far as I remember
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From: NOV
on 20th February 2010 02:40 PM
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Vivs.
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
Mahen

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
irir123
after watching NAN KADAVUL, on the way out,
a bunch of well-groomed NRI tamils were commenting "evvalavu naalu thaan bala ippadi mokkai padamaa eduppaan ? mudhalla sethu, appuram pithamagan, ippo pichhakaarangal vecchu naan kadavul - thaanga mudiyala - kudumbathhoda paakkamudiyumaa indha maadhiri padangala ? adutha varusham thalaa padam varattum - adhu pola varaadhu" - endha thalaava pathhi avanga sonnangannu theriyalai - but most likely some punch-dialog hero!
indha latchanathula, how do we expect producers/ directors to break the mould ??

kuppathulayum nalla cinema rasigan irukkaan.. i
nthu maathi pseudo-high class soripudicha genmangal A-class centres-la irukku... infact they are the majority..
sethu, pithamagan, nandaa-kku apparam Naan Kadavul mattum avanukku pudicha maathiri irukkumnu avanunga nenaichaaingalaa..

This is unnecessary..If they dont like it leave it..Im Tamil.
.I cant write and speak proper Tamil (so called A class audience) but i loved Naan Kadavul
did I ever define so-called A class audience in that way??
seems like many others here, you also cant understand simple english also.
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Anjathe was just OK - thats what i felt when I watched it.
having said that there are few hair rising scenes in the movie
1.The old lady spilling flowers on the place where a guy was found injured on road
2.Livingston havinh heart attack when his wife was swearing hero's family.
3.ajmal sitting with briefs in the police station
prasanna and naren
first he must learn to make people act well...and few scenes where he probably tried to stamp his authority on screen were just ludicrous
seri.. correct.. but these few hair rising scenes shows his potential... the way he picturised that duet and kannathaasan song also shows his calibre..
enakkenammo ESP irukkura maathiri oru feeling.. so ithu maathiri extreme judgements ellaaam tharuven..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
seri.. correct.. but these few hair rising scenes shows his potential... the way he picturised that duet and kannathaasan song also shows his calibre..
yeah....its just that the movie is not
that great
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From: Vivasaayi
on 20th February 2010 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
enakkenammo ESP irukkura maathiri oru feeling.. so ithu maathiri extreme judgements ellaaam tharuven..
wow!!!!...u mean it really or what
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Anban
enakkenammo ESP irukkura maathiri oru feeling.. so ithu maathiri extreme judgements ellaaam tharuven..
wow!!!!...u mean it really or what
ivan oru kaalathula periya aalaa varuvaan..
ivan oru vethu scene... uruppadaama poyiduvaan....
ithu maathiri judgements correct-aa panniduven...
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From: venkkiram
on 20th February 2010 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
same way, Mysskin is way ahead of other newbie directors... infact one of the best in current cinema.. so, I encourage him.. you can watch his movies with your family for sure.. do watch Anjaathey.. you will agree with me.. its a classic..
உங்கள் கருத்தோடு உடன்படுகிறேன் அன்பன். மிஷ்கின் எடுத்த சித்திரம் பேசுதடி, அஞ்சாதே இரு படங்களையும் கதையை மட்டும் சொல்லி மற்ற இயக்குனர்களிடம் இயக்கச் சொன்னால் அதை எந்த அளவு சொதப்பி இருப்பார்கள் என்று நினைத்துப் பார்க்க முடிகிறது. குறிப்பா, சித்திரம் பேசுதடி, அஞ்சாதே இறுதிக்காட்சிகளின் பட நகர்வு என்னை பிரமிக்க வைத்தது.
எக்காலத்திலும் கதை, திரைக்கதை, இயக்கத்தில் கோடம்பாக்கத்தின் மலிவான வியாபார நோக்கத்திற்கு பலியாக மாட்டார் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இவரின் படத்தில் தெரிந்தது.
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From: Anban
on 20th February 2010 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
Anban
same way, Mysskin is way ahead of other newbie directors... infact one of the best in current cinema.. so, I encourage him.. you can watch his movies with your family for sure.. do watch Anjaathey.. you will agree with me.. its a classic..
உங்கள் கருத்தோடு உடன்படுகிறேன் அன்பன். மிஷ்கின் எடுத்த சித்திரம் பேசுதடி, அஞ்சாதே இரு படங்களையும் கதையை மட்டும் சொல்லி மற்ற இயக்குனர்களிடம் இயக்கச் சொன்னால் அதை எந்த அளவு சொதப்பி இருப்பார்கள் என்று நினைத்துப் பார்க்க முடிகிறது. குறிப்பா, சித்திரம் பேசுதடி, அஞ்சாதே இறுதிக்காட்சிகளின் பட நகர்வு என்னை பிரமிக்க வைத்தது.
எக்காலத்திலும் கதை, திரைக்கதை, இயக்கத்தில் கோடம்பாக்கத்தின் மலிவான வியாபார நோக்கத்திற்கு பலியாக மாட்டார் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இவரின் படத்தில் தெரிந்தது.
any director will be forced to make a lot of compromises in his first few films.. so anjaathey ellaam periya filter pottu thaan paakkanum..
as kamal once said.. he has a very strong backing from a star called kamal.. not many have that..
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From: irir123
on 21st February 2010 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
Aalavanthan

Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
Aalavanthan
We are not very sure about the delay in the release of the movie. Remember.. its the exam season* in Chennai
Seriously, do you mean ejjAm and such things behind nondhalAlA release?
The music album came out more than a year ago and the movie was ready soon after.
Even the news that Kamal watched it, recommended to SunTV etc (supposedly signed up the director for his movie) came months ago.
You must be kidding!
Whoz kidding ?
Given the timing that this discussion has come up, this is definitely a reason.. Just wait to see how many films get released in the next 3 months.. with IPL holding huge number of screens this year.
enna comedy panreenga ? nandalal shd have been released 10 months ago! exam season is not year-round
the only reason is: tamil cinemavudaiyya thalai ezhuthha maathhavey mudiyaadhu! thats all - we will forever have big stars making commercial compromises and making so-called 'mass' (sounds more like 'my*ss') movies for some reason or the other and what is left in terms of quality is very very little
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From: Aalavanthan
on 25th February 2010 06:03 PM
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IR.. I dont think blaming the audience and the TF on a whole is a solution to this.. I do not know the budget of this movie, but the whole blame should go to the producer, Ayngaran in this case.
Padam edukardhu mattum thaan director-da velai .. adha makkalidam kondu poi sekka vendiya velai producers and distributors-odadhu. This statement was from the horse mouth himself (Kamal) .
We (tamil film) lack a lot of marketing and the era of "hero value" is constantly diminishing and the production companies should concentrate on marketing ! Maasilamani ellam SUPERHIT nu solra indha ulagathula, Marketing can take any movie to greater heightsnu solli theriya vendiya avasiyamilae..
idha vittutu, marupadiyum marupadiyum audience-a korai kooradhu nalla illaingO.
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From: Plum
on 25th February 2010 06:05 PM
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AV, as an extreme, maasilamaNi ellAm rejeet paNninA, producers vazhikku varuvAnga ilaiyaA?
But rejeet paNNinAlum, that particular producer hit-nu solvAngagradhu vEra vishayam
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 26th February 2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
AV, as an extreme, maasilamaNi ellAm rejeet paNninA, producers vazhikku varuvAnga ilaiyaA?
But rejeet paNNinAlum, that particular producer hit-nu solvAngagradhu vEra vishayam

Nowadays with the backing of TV, Sun can market any kuppai and make it a hit.. Except one or 2 movies, all the movies promoted by SUN shoud be in the rejeet category thaan..
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From: viraajan
on 30th October 2010 03:30 PM
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There's an interesting update about this movie
Mysskin says that the movie will hit the screen by 2nd week of November!!
Source: The Hindu.
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From: ajaybaskar
on 30th October 2010 04:12 PM
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Did he mention which November?
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From: Riyazz
on 30th October 2010 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Did he mention which November?

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From: varunlss12
on 30th October 2010 05:13 PM
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chitiram pesuthadi n anjadhey were good movies n sure nandalala wont dissappoint us.....
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From: viraajan
on 30th October 2010 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Did he mention which November?

sari sari... vidunga...
No. he didn't
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From: VJerry
on 3rd November 2010 12:30 PM
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Today's ad saying the movie will be released on Nov 26....
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From: Riyazz
on 3rd November 2010 12:39 PM
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http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/61310.html
‘Nandhalala’ from Nov 26
Director Mysskin’s much delayed film ‘Nandhalala’ is going to see the light of the day at last. The film produced by Ayngaran International will be released on November 26.
“The movie was lying in the cans for a longtime due to various unavoidable reasons. However, all the decks have been cleared now and you can watch the film on November 26,” sources say.
Besides wielding the megaphone, Mysskin has played the protagonist in ‘Nandhalala’, which has Snigdha (of ‘Kathazha Kannale…’ fame) doing the other lead role. “The movie is about human emotions and hence Mysskin opted for Illayaraja to score music.”
It is to be noted that Mysskin vented his ire at a recent function over the delay in the release of ‘Nandhalala’. “Today Tamil film industry is in a bad shape. There is lack of good films. Though my ‘Nandhalala’ is different, there are no takers for the movie,” he said.
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From: gurusaravanan
on 4th November 2010 03:02 AM
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November 26il intha kolanthai pirakindrathu...
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From: Anban
on 4th November 2010 04:33 AM
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From: m_karthik
on 4th November 2010 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
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From: Anban
on 4th November 2010 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
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From: m_karthik
on 4th November 2010 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
release aagalaina kooda idha oru reason ah avar solluvaaru...
Btw.. who is releasing? Ayngaran or Myskin releasing alone?
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From: Anban
on 4th November 2010 09:34 AM
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avaru kitta ungalukku enna sir prachanai??
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From: m_karthik
on 4th November 2010 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
avaru kitta ungalukku enna sir prachanai??
Oru prachanayum illa..
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From: MADDY
on 19th November 2010 08:03 PM
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trailers started on kalaignar tv
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From: gurusaravanan
on 19th November 2010 10:35 PM
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From: PG2010
on 20th November 2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
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From: Thirumaran
on 20th November 2010 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
padam varattum, appuram paarthuttu sollalaam
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From: Riyazz
on 20th November 2010 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
padam varattum, appuram paarthuttu sollalaam

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From: jinju
on 21st November 2010 11:33 PM
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today's Hindu Friday Review has an interview with Mysskin. gud casual one, after going through some of his so-called controversial bytes in the media. after reading a lot about this film, eagerly waiting. hope it's releasing on 26th.
also looking forward to his next, Yuddham Sei, with Cheran in the lead in which he claims there's an action scene featuring Cheran which will be one of the best witnessed in Indian cinema
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From: MADDY
on 22nd November 2010 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
m_karthik

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABssA_Mg2HkGnKdo-kQXxdNaAnplabUAsmCY4kud1Ao1e_OX4dhHhO0e4hbsqVq4aTo ge254DaB8guddv66xUNUAm1T1UPuhBtSODDpSetRYONgYXlW1T DYW.jpg

Originally Posted by
Myskin will tell this somewhere around december if this is true
மன்மதன் அம்பு மற்றும் காவலன் திரைபடங்களினால் என்னுடைய திரைபடம் திரை அரங்குகளில் இருந்து அவசரமாக எடுக்க பட்டு உள்ளது
Ippidi oru padam release aaarathey periya vishayam..
padam varattum, appuram paarthuttu sollalaam

talking abt honesty, i really dont understand how people are appreciating a work before even seeing it.....
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From: kid-glove
on 22nd November 2010 09:28 AM
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Thiru, Maddy
The nature of the film doesn't seem marketable. A film centered on a kid's road journey sans hero, heroine, villain, kuthu songs, item number, etcetra..
For all we know, it could turn out bad. But that's a different matter altogether..
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From: MADDY
on 22nd November 2010 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
The nature of the film doesn't seem marketable. A film centered on a kid's road journey sans hero, heroine, villain, kuthu songs, item number, etcetra..
without watching the film, u cannot confirm these things.....i think u guys are appreciating the intent without seeing the content....
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From: Anban
on 22nd November 2010 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
The nature of the film doesn't seem marketable. A film centered on a kid's road journey sans hero, heroine, villain, kuthu songs, item number, etcetra..
without watching the film, u cannot confirm these things.....i think u guys are appreciating the intent without seeing the content....
appo ithellaam intha padathula irukkunu nenaikkireengala??? athuthaan Myskkin-e sollittaare illainu.. yes.. i m appreciating the intent.. i have belief in the content.. athellaam innum appreciate pannala..
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From: kid-glove
on 22nd November 2010 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
The nature of the film doesn't seem marketable. A film centered on a kid's road journey sans hero, heroine, villain, kuthu songs, item number, etcetra..
without watching the film, u cannot confirm these things....
.i think u guys are appreciating the intent without seeing the content....
Nothing wrong as I see it.
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From: MADDY
on 22nd November 2010 10:04 AM
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whats intent without content? even movies like satham podadhey, achamundu, achamundu etc were hyped as "tharamana" padams but fell flat on content...........movies like VKK, Kalavani which come without much noise are way better
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From: kid-glove
on 22nd November 2010 10:37 AM
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Maddy,
I'm not appreciating the content yet.
Have to add that, unlike SP, AA, etc, this film doesn't have recognizable actors like Prithvi-Padmapriya or Prasanna-Sneha..
You could cite Pasanga, but even Pasanga had topical love story & duet numbers.
Didn't we all sing praises about Aamir for doing TZP? Even if I didn't like the film as much as others, I wouldn't diminish the intent. Whether it achieved what it set out to do, is an entirely different matter.
Unlike others, I don't mind accrediting efforts of any filmmaker, whosoever it might be - Mysskin or Shankar. Even if it's a worthy failure (supposing it is!) or a boxoffice success (like Enthiran). My overall impression on the film could be much different, but 'credit where its due' & all that mate!
Why particularly this film? I'd always wished for a localized adaptation of near-silent tragicomedy road film like Kikujiro. It's an extremely likable universal theme. Now such a film would be pretty unthinkable without a star playing the adult caretaker to the child. I really wonder how Mysskin got a major release. I was fearing for direct-to-video/tv. Normally this kind of premise ends up being an omnibus venture like Santosh Sivan's moving short 'Prarambh' (part of AIDS JaaGo, which also features VB's engaging Blood Brothers). But even that has a name like Prabhu Deva attached to it! And a theme like AIDS awareness at center of it.
PD's performance swings from Kitano to Chaplin in a moment of minutes and takes the latter route quite superbly. Wildly entertaining, possibly his best till date. Also one of Santosh Sivan's best, many times better than some of his 'misty-looking' full length feature films. There's also a neat cameo by Saroja Devi as headmistress.
"Nandhalala" attempting this kind of subgenre as a 'mainstream film', without recognizable faces, is laudable IMO.
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From: jinju
on 22nd November 2010 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Maddy,
Unlike others, I don't mind accrediting efforts of any filmmaker, whosoever it might be - Mysskin or Shankar. Even if it's a worthy failure (supposing it is!) or a boxoffice success (like Enthiran). My overall impression on the film could be much different, but 'credit where its due' & all that mate!
Why particularly this film? I'd always wished for a localized adaptation of near-silent tragicomedy road film like Kikujiro. It's an extremely likable universal theme.
"Nandhalala" attempting this kind of subgenre as a 'mainstream film', without recognizable faces, is laudable IMO.
K-G
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From: MADDY
on 22nd November 2010 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Have to add that, unlike SP, AA, etc, this film doesn't have recognizable actors like Prithvi-Padmapriya or Prasanna-Sneha..
recognised face or unrecognised - creator must see whether the person suits the role or not........if a role demands a prasanna or prakash raj, why not go for them instead.......im not exactly a fan of "kambi pudikkaama bus-la poradhu"..........

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Didn't we all sing praises about Aamir for doing TZP? Even if I didn't like the film as much as others, I wouldn't diminish the intent. Whether it achieved what it set out to do, is an entirely different matter.
appadiya?? but that was after watching the movie, isnt it? i remember Anban tearing it apart as a marketing gimmick too - illaya??

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
"Nandhalala" attempting this kind of subgenre as a 'mainstream film', without recognizable faces, is laudable IMO.
nalla laudikkonga, i'll wait till i watch

.......
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From: kid-glove
on 22nd November 2010 01:22 PM
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I will also wait before coming to conclusions about the form & content. Whether it's really a case of "kambi pudikkaama bus-la poradhu"..
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From: rajasaranam
on 23rd November 2010 11:11 AM
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The long wait ends and the journey begins....
http://3.ly/QzM8
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 23rd November 2010 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Really a very good news.. All those who are behind in bringing this film to release need to be appreciated !!
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From: gurusaravanan
on 23rd November 2010 08:56 PM
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Toi sreedhar pillai gave 3.25/5...
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From: vithagan
on 23rd November 2010 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
rajasaranam
Ilayaraja
Mysskin
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From: vithagan
on 23rd November 2010 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
gurusaravanan
Toi sreedhar pillai gave 3.25/5...
Do you have the link for the review?
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From: gurusaravanan
on 23rd November 2010 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
vithagan

Originally Posted by
gurusaravanan
Toi sreedhar pillai gave 3.25/5...
Do you have the link for the review?

check twitter.. Jus Nw he tweeted
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From: Nerd
on 23rd November 2010 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
vithagan

Originally Posted by
gurusaravanan
Toi sreedhar pillai gave 3.25/5...
Do you have the link for the review?

This was his tweet:
Nandalala- 3.25/5, Pulls at ur heart strings, and the real road movie in Tamil. Mysskin is ok 4 a newcomer, characterisation contrived.
http://twitter.com/sri50
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From: kid-glove
on 23rd November 2010 11:48 PM
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Btw athu enna 3.252525 :P
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From: vithagan
on 24th November 2010 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Nandalala- 3.25/5, Pulls at ur heart strings, and the real road movie in Tamil. Mysskin is ok 4 a newcomer, characterisation contrived.
http://twitter.com/sri50
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From: Nerd
on 24th November 2010 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Btw athu enna 3.252525 :P
Adhu sari, avar ID-la irukka 50 enna? General-aa oru reviewkku vaangura amountaa?
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From: kid-glove
on 24th November 2010 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Btw athu enna 3.252525 :P
Adhu sari, avar ID-la irukka 50 enna? General-aa oru reviewkku vaangura amountaa?

That's what Anban says.
But my question has nothing to do with that, but about the generally insipid system of awarding marks among Tamil reviewers. Of course, 3.5 would be understandable. 3.25 konjam illa, remba over-a therila?
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From: jaiganes
on 24th November 2010 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Btw athu enna 3.252525 :P
Adhu sari, avar ID-la irukka 50 enna? General-aa oru reviewkku vaangura amountaa?

That's what Anban says.
But my question has nothing to do with that, but about the generally insipid system of awarding marks among Tamil reviewers. Of course, 3.5 would be understandable. 3.25 konjam illa, remba over-a therila?
Probably he pasted his GPA in movie rating.
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From: kid-glove
on 24th November 2010 02:40 PM
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From: raajarasigan
on 24th November 2010 03:07 PM
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vitta 3.01, 3.02... indha rangela rating koduppainga pola..
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From: varunlss12
on 24th November 2010 03:23 PM
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Waiting for a long time for this movie......
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 24th November 2010 04:15 PM
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tomorrow and day after tomm, 7pm kalaigner thollai kaatchi
Nandalala team discuss about the movie
also in the kurooppu are saaru, saaji and other arivujeevis. ensoy!
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From: AravindMano
on 24th November 2010 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
also in the kurooppu are saaru, saaji and other arivujeevis. ensoy!
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 24th November 2010 04:51 PM
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Saaru may compare this movie with any of Akira kurosawa's film..
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From: Anban
on 24th November 2010 04:54 PM
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http://cinema.nakkheeran.in/Talkies.aspx?T=742
நந்தலாலா - சிறப்பு விமர்சனம்
நந்தலாலா - ‘கிகுஜிரோ’ என்ற ஜப்பானிய படத்தின் தழுவல். இரண்டு மகன்கள் தன் தாயைத் தேடி பயணிக்கும் கதை... பயணத்தின் போது அவர்கள் சந்தித்த சம்பவங்கள், நபர்கள், அவர்களுக்கு உதவி செய்தவர்கள் என திரைக்கதை நகர்கிறது. இருவரும் தன் தாயை சந்தித்தார்களா? என்பதே முடிவு.
பல காலம் கிடப்பில் போடப்பட்ட நந்தலாலா வரும் வெள்ளிக்கிழமை திரையை அலங்கரிக்க இருக்கிறது. இயக்குனர் மிஷ்கின் நல்ல நடிகராக அவதரித்திருக்கிறார்.
படத்தின் சூப்பர் ஹீரோ இளையராஜா. படம் பார்க்கும் போது இதை உங்களால் உணர முடியும். செவியில் நுழைந்து இதயத்தோடு பேசுகிறது இசைஞானியின் இசை. படத்தின் பல இடங்களில் வசனமே இல்லை. இந்த படத்தை ஒவ்வொரு முறைப் பார்க்கும் போதும் ஒவ்வொரு விஷயத்தை புரிந்து கொள்ள முடியும்.
பள்ளியில் சுற்றுலா செல்லும் நேரத்தில் தன் தாயைப் பார்க்க சிறுவன் அகில் தனியாய் புறப்படுகிறான். தன் தாயைப் பார்க்க மன நோயாளி காப்பகத்திலிருந்து தப்பித்து வருகிறார் பாஸ்கர் மணி (மிஷ்கின்). சிறுவன் அகிலும், பாஸ்கர் மணியும் சந்தித்து கொள்கிறார்கள். இருவரும் தன் தாயைத் தேடிப் போவதாலும் அதுவும் ஒரே வழியை நோக்கிப் போவதாலும் இவர்கள் நண்பர்களாய் இணைகிறார்கள்.
இருவரும் தாங்கள் போக வேண்டிய இடத்துக்கு பேருந்தில் பயணித்திருந்தால் எதுவுமே நடந்திருக்காது. ஆனால் பாஸ்கர் மணியின் லூசுத்தனமான செய்கைகளால் அவர் பேருந்தில் இருந்து கீழே தள்ளப்படுகிறார். தனியாய் போக சிறுவனும் பயப்படுகிறான். இதனால் இருவரின் சுவாரஸ்யமான பயணம் தொடர்கிறது...
மாட்டுவண்டி, டிராக்டர், நடைப்பயணம் என சுவாரஸ்யமாக தொடர்ந்து கொண்டே போகிறது பயணம். இரவு பகல் என தொடர்கிற பயணத்தில் புதிய மனிதர்களையும், சக மனிதர்களை புதிய பார்வையிலும், அவர்களின் எதார்த்தத்தையும் காட்டுகின்றன காட்சிகள்.
படத்தின் இரண்டாம் பாதியில் ஸ்நிகிதா அறிமுகமாகிறார். உடலை விற்று பிழைப்பு நடத்தும் பாலியல் தொழிலாளி. தன் சோகக் கதையை சொல்லி அவரும் பயணத்தில் இணைகிறார். தாயைத் தேடி பயணித்த மகன்கள் தாயை அடைந்தார்களா... என்பதை இதுவரை தமிழ் சினிமாவில் சொல்லப்படாத பரிமாணத்தில் சொல்லியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் மிஷ்கின்.
ஸ்நிகிதா அறிமுகமாகும் காட்சி அபாரம். உன்னை அவன் எதாவது செய்துவிட்டானா... இல்லையே! என மிஷ்கின் கேட்க 'உன்னால நூறு ரூபாய் போச்சு' என ஸ்நிகிதா பதில் சொல்வது எதிர்பார்க்காத வசனம். அதுமட்டும் இல்லை... தான் ஒருவனைக் காதலித்து மோசம் போனதும், அதனால் தன் தாயை இழந்ததும், சோற்றுக்கு வழியின்றி பாலியல் தொழில் செய்வதும் என தன் கொடூரக் கதையை சொல்லி முடிக்கும் போது அவர் கண்களில் மட்டும் அல்ல, நம் இதயங்களிலும் கண்ணீர் வடிகிறது! ஸ்நிகிதாவா!!!! இது என்று வியக்கும் அளவிற்கு நடிப்பு.
மிஷ்கின் நடிப்பு ஒகே. சடார் சடார் என வசனங்களின் உச்சரிப்பில் பலே போட வைக்கிறார். அது என்ன என்று கேட்டு, பீர் பாட்டிலை வாங்கி குடித்து மீண்டும் அதை கிழே துப்பி அதே பாட்டிலால் எதிரில் இருப்பவன் மண்டையை உடைக்கும் காட்சி ரசிகர்கள் கைத்தட்டப் போகும் காட்சி. தன் தாயை சங்கிலியால் கட்டிவைத்துள்ள கொடுமையான காட்சியை கண்டதும் மிஷ்கின் தன் தாயைக் கட்டிப்பிடித்து அழுவதும்... அப்போது 'தாலாட்டு பாடத்தானே இத்தனை நாள் காத்திருந்தேன்...' என
இளையராஜாவின் குரல் கசிந்ததும் வெளிபட்ட உணர்வை சொல்ல வார்த்தைகளே இல்லை.
மிஷ்கினுக்கு அம்மாவாக வரும் ரோகினி எதிர்பார்க்கவே முடியாத நடிப்பு. சங்கிலியால் கட்டப்பட்டு அழுக்காய், காலில் புண்விழுந்து... பின் மொட்டையடித்து என உணர்சிகளை உருவி எடுத்துவிட்டார்.
இதைவிட பெரிய விஷயம் சிறுவன் அஷ்வத் ராம்(அகில்) தான் வரும் ஒவ்வொரு காட்சியிலும் அசத்துகிறார். அழுகை, சிரிப்பு, அமைதி என தனது கதாபாத்திரத்தில் வாழ்ந்திருகிறார்.
மகேஷ் முத்துசுவாமியின் கேமரா கோணங்கள் தமிழ் சினிமாவில் இதுவரை இல்லாத புது முயற்சி. இளையராஜாவின் இசைக்கு முழு மரியாதை செய்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின். தமிழ் சினிமாவை உயரப் பறக்கச் செய்யும் படங்களில் நந்தலாலாவும் ஒன்று!
நந்தலாலா - இளையராஜாவின் இசை சாம்ராஜ்யம்
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From: Nerd
on 24th November 2010 06:45 PM
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படத்தின் சூப்பர் ஹீரோ இளையராஜா. படம் பார்க்கும் போது இதை உங்களால் உணர முடியும். செவியில் நுழைந்து இதயத்தோடு பேசுகிறது
இசைஞானியின் இசை.
நந்தலாலா - இளையராஜாவின் இசை சாம்ராஜ்யம்
Therinja vishayamaanaalum kooda
Indha padathukku overseas release kastam dhaan, apdiyE irundhaalum enga area pakkam sathiyamaa varaadhu
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From: A.ANAND
on 24th November 2010 06:59 PM
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நந்தலாலா எதிலிருந்து...?
மிஷ்கினும் மிஸ்டேக்கும்!
Last Updated 3:30 Hrs [IST], November 24, 2010
நல்ல படங்களை பார்த்தால் எவ்வித தயக்கமும் இன்றி கைதட்டி தங்கள் பாராட்டுகளை தெரிவிப்பது பத்திரிகையாளர்களின் வழக்கம். சேது, காதல், வெயில் போன்ற படங்கள் அப்படி கொண்டாடப்பட்டிருக்கின்றன பத்திரிகையாளர்களால். பல மாதங்களுக்கு பிறகு அப்படியரு கைதட்டலை கேட்க முடிந்தது நேற்று! திரையிடப்பட்ட படம் நந்தலாலா.
"வழக்கமா பிரஸ் ஷோவை, ரிலீசுக்கு முதல் நாள்தான் போடுவோம். ஏனென்றால் மறுநாளே அந்த படத்தை பற்றி தவறாக விமர்சனம் வந்தால் எல்லா வகையிலும் அப்படம் பாதிக்கப்படுமே என்பதால். ஆனால் இந்த படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆக இன்னும் சில தினங்கள் இருக்கு. இருந்தாலும் இத்தனை நாட்களுக்கு முன்பே திரையிடுகிறோம் என்றால் யாரும் தவறாக எழுத மாட்டார்கள் என்ற நம்பிக்கையில்தான்" என்றார் தயாரிப்பாளர் அருண் பாண்டியன். "எங்க வீட்ல என்னோட மூத்த சகோதரர் இப்படி மனநிலை பாதிக்கப்பட்டவரா இருந்தார். அதைதான் இந்த படத்தில் கொண்டு வந்திருக்கேன்" என்றார் மிஷ்கின்.
எத்தனையோ விஷயங்களில் முரண்பட்டிருந்தாலும், மிஷ்கினின் இந்த படம் அவர் மீதிருந்த அத்தனை விமர்சனங்களையும் கழுவி துடைத்தெறிந்து விட்டது என்பதுதான் உண்மை. நந்தலாலா தமிழ் சினிமாவின் கவுரவம் என்பதில் மாற்று கருத்தே இல்லை. ஆனால் அத்தனையும் மிஷ்கினின் சொந்த கற்பனையா என்ற கேள்விக்கு, 'இல்லை' என்ற பதிலையும் கவலையோடு சொல்ல வேண்டியிருக்கிறது.
பின் வரும் இணைப்புகளும், இங்கே வெளியிடப்பட்டிருக்கும் இரண்டு ஸ்டில்களும் நமது கவலையை இன்னும் அழுத்தமாக பதிவு செய்யக்கூடும். பாருங்களேன் நீங்களும்...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikujiro
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2010/01/31...vies-kikujiro/
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...er/241110c.asp
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 24th November 2010 07:21 PM
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ஹாய்! ஜாலி!! இந்த படமும் காப்பி!!!
இதுவரை வெளியான உலகத்தர படங்கள் அத்தனையையும் ஒன்றுவிடாமல் பார்த்த ஒரே ஒலக எழுத்தாளர் அண்ணன் சாரு, இந்த படம் உலகத்தரம் என்று பல மாதங்கள் முன்னரே அறிவித்து விட்டார். அமீர் ஒரு படத்தை காப்பி அடித்து தன படம் போல் சொல்லிக்கொண்டார் என்று அவரை நாறு நாராக கிழித்த ஒலக எழுத்தாளர் சாரு, இப்போ நாறு நாராக கிழிக்கப்பட உள்ளார்!!
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From: A.ANAND
on 24th November 2010 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
ஹாய்! ஜாலி!! இந்த படமும் காப்பி!!!
இதுவரை வெளியான உலகத்தர படங்கள் அத்தனையையும் ஒன்றுவிடாமல் பார்த்த ஒரே ஒலக எழுத்தாளர் அண்ணன் சாரு, இந்த படம் உலகத்தரம் என்று பல மாதங்கள் முன்னரே அறிவித்து விட்டார். அமீர் ஒரு படத்தை காப்பி அடித்து தன படம் போல் சொல்லிக்கொண்டார் என்று அவரை நாறு நாராக கிழித்த ஒலக எழுத்தாளர் சாரு, இப்போ நாறு நாராக கிழிக்கப்பட உள்ளார்!!

avaru periya arivu GV[Charu], SKV sir!
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From: raajarasigan
on 25th November 2010 09:10 AM
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booked in Mayajaal - Friday 10.30 PM show..

andha show'kku naandhan first booking..
going with our fellow hubbers...
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From: Mahen
on 25th November 2010 02:48 PM
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Not so positive review
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review....tid=5&cid=2429
Now coming to the big question- Was Mysskin inspired from the Japanese Kitano Takeshi film Kikujiru ? The answer is a loud and clear “Yes”. He has taken the basic framework of the Japanese film reworked it to suit local nativity with loads of human emotions that work with our audiences.
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From: raghavendran
on 25th November 2010 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Mahen
Not so positive review
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review....tid=5&cid=2429
Now coming to the big question- Was Mysskin inspired from the Japanese Kitano Takeshi film Kikujiru ? The answer is a loud and clear “Yes”. He has taken the basic framework of the Japanese film reworked it to suit local nativity with loads of human emotions that work with our audiences.

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
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From: P_R
on 25th November 2010 06:26 PM
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Mysskinai suffort paNradhukkaagavaavadhu indha padaththai paathuraNum. yaar enna sonnAlum sari.
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 25th November 2010 06:26 PM
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This is an adaptation of Kikujiro nu padam edukkumbodhe therinja vishayam dhaane...
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From: Anban
on 25th November 2010 06:29 PM
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exactly.. Sreedhar Thollai-kku poga vendiya cutting pogalainu nenaikkiren..
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From: equanimus
on 25th November 2010 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Mysskinai suffort paNradhukkaagavaavadhu indha padaththai paathuraNum. yaar enna sonnAlum sari.
Absoleetly.
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From: MADDY
on 25th November 2010 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........
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From: equanimus
on 25th November 2010 07:07 PM
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Is it going to be released in Bangalore tomorrow? LM engu irundhAlum mEdaikku varavum.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 25th November 2010 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bala (Karthik)
This is an adaptation of Kikujiro nu padam edukkumbodhe therinja vishayam dhaane...
appo enthalavukku misskin thannoda original writing add/modify apnnirukkaarunnu paakaNum.
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From: raajarasigan
on 25th November 2010 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bala (Karthik)
This is an adaptation of Kikujiro nu padam edukkumbodhe therinja vishayam dhaane...
I remember he was telling that the story credit would be given to the Kikujiro writer..
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From: raajarasigan
on 25th November 2010 08:31 PM
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http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-reviews/reviews-2/nandalala-movie-review.html
Rating - ****
In all these portions the words that are left unsaid are magnificently conveyed by Ilaiyaraja’s notes. Mysskin had said during the making of the movie that Ilaiyaraja’s score will be one of the characters of the movie; how true. Each and every sound from the master elevates the movie to a new level. Oscar or not; he is the ultimate genius when it comes to creating soulful music that enhances the viewing experience.

very excited to watch after seeing this review...
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From: raghavendran
on 25th November 2010 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
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From: Nerd
on 25th November 2010 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-reviews/reviews-2/nandalala-movie-review.html
Rating - ****
In all these portions the words that are left unsaid are magnificently conveyed by Ilaiyaraja’s notes. Mysskin had said during the making of the movie that Ilaiyaraja’s score will be one of the characters of the movie; how true. Each and every sound from the master elevates the movie to a new level. Oscar or not; he is the ultimate genius when it comes to creating soulful music that enhances the viewing experience.

very excited to watch after seeing this review...
Indha oscar bit remmmbba idikkidhu. Why do many IR fans (excluding I am of course) bring in the *oscar* thingi post Rahman-Oscar? Disgusting.
Sify's note on the BGM was extraordinary as well. Trailer paathaalE theriyudhu. Cant wait to watch it, in DVD
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From: P_R
on 25th November 2010 09:49 PM
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Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
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From: raajarasigan
on 25th November 2010 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-reviews/reviews-2/nandalala-movie-review.html
Rating - ****
In all these portions the words that are left unsaid are magnificently conveyed by Ilaiyaraja’s notes. Mysskin had said during the making of the movie that Ilaiyaraja’s score will be one of the characters of the movie; how true. Each and every sound from the master elevates the movie to a new level. Oscar or not; he is the ultimate genius when it comes to creating soulful music that enhances the viewing experience.

very excited to watch after seeing this review...
Indha oscar bit remmmbba idikkidhu. Why do many IR fans (excluding I am of course) bring in the *oscar* thingi post Rahman-Oscar? Disgusting.
Sify's note on the BGM was extraordinary as well. Trailer paathaalE theriyudhu. Cant wait to watch it, in DVD

Nerd, I just pasted the quote from that link... nothing intentional
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From: kid-glove
on 25th November 2010 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
ungalukku unga kavalai..
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From: Anban
on 25th November 2010 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
the movie does not have many dialogues.. bGM takes over most of the scenes nearing the climax.. appidinu Mysskin interviews-la sollittu varaaru..
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From: Anban
on 25th November 2010 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
athula enna thambi ungalukku santhosam.. padam ennamo sakkarakatti range-kku irukkumngra maathiri pesittu irukkeengale..
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From: raajarasigan
on 25th November 2010 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
P_R, even I did NOT read the full review.. just the IR's part..
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From: littlemaster1982
on 25th November 2010 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
Is it going to be released in Bangalore tomorrow? LM engu irundhAlum mEdaikku varavum.
Naan ippo Chennai-vaasi

I don't think it's releasing in Bangalore. PVR website movie listing doesn't have Nandhalala.
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From: Nerd
on 25th November 2010 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
Nerd, I just pasted the quote from that link... nothing intentional

illeeng, naan ungala sollaleeng. Such remarks can be see in many blogs, teep videos etc.. but a mainstream media making such a wrong comparison while reviewing a film sounded very odd. Avlodhaan
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From: jaiganes
on 26th November 2010 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
Nerd, I just pasted the quote from that link... nothing intentional

illeeng, naan ungala sollaleeng. Such remarks can be see in many blogs, teep videos etc.. but a mainstream media making such a wrong comparison while reviewing a film sounded very odd. Avlodhaan

True.
That is the nature of media. summaave seendi vittu comments adhiga paduthuradhukku oru easy route.
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From: prashanth12
on 26th November 2010 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
Perhaps because the BGM is used in a more substantial or noteworthy way than in typical films, for these writers to notice. Hopefully...
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From: Mahen
on 26th November 2010 04:48 AM
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Might watch tomorrow
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From: Querida
on 26th November 2010 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
P_R, even I did NOT read the full review.. just the IR's part..

me too

too often I buy into the hype of a movie only to be disappointed...and the culprit more often than not are my own expectations..
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
sappan lerndhu story ellam kalavaindrukaanga - ennadhan irukkunu paakkattum avanga.........as for me, much like querida, im always disappointed with such "thamizh cinemavukku idhuve adhigam", "thamizh cinema munnetram" movies.......6 months later dhaan
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
Nerd, I just pasted the quote from that link... nothing intentional

illeeng, naan ungala sollaleeng. Such remarks can be see in many blogs, teep videos etc.. but a mainstream media making such a wrong comparison while reviewing a film sounded very odd. Avlodhaan

True.
That is the nature of media. summaave seendi vittu comments adhiga paduthuradhukku oru easy route.
illa, some IR fans i know are genuinely disappointed that AR has won global recognition......
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 07:58 AM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
athula enna thambi ungalukku santhosam.. padam ennamo sakkarakatti range-kku irukkumngra maathiri pesittu irukkeengale..
Anban - u r neccessarily making it a IR-AR fight and then denying it......what is this? it is abt myskin - if u r insecure abt arguing for myskin and have to invoke IR all the time for support, then pls accept so
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From: NOV
on 26th November 2010 09:08 AM
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Playing in one cinema in Malaysia (Sentul cinema)
Nandalala
2hr 0min - Drama - Tamil
Director: Mishkin - Cast: Ashwath Raman, Mishkin, Snightha Akolk
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From: raajarasigan
on 26th November 2010 10:39 AM
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Times Of India Movie Review rating : 4.5 / 5
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From: ajaybaskar
on 26th November 2010 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
illa, some IR fans i know are genuinely disappointed that AR has won global recognition......
Idhu IR fansngra poarvaila irukkura sila 'kullanarigal'..
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 10:50 AM
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I can't speak for either kuroop but quite simply, why would such a reaction be surprising or even something to feel bad about?
I have no qualms about saying I am quite annoyed that Vivek got a Padmasri.
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From: A.ANAND
on 26th November 2010 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar

Originally Posted by
MADDY
illa, some IR fans i know are genuinely disappointed that AR has won global recognition......
Idhu IR fansngra poarvaila irukkura sila 'kullanarigal'..

but nijamave arr music-ka love and repect pannara neraya ir fans-sum irukathan seirangga!antha nalla ullangalai ninaithu perumai adaiya vendiyathuthan!
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 11:26 AM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
athula enna thambi ungalukku santhosam.. padam ennamo sakkarakatti range-kku irukkumngra maathiri pesittu irukkeengale..
Anban - u r neccessarily making it a IR-AR fight and then denying it......what is this? it is abt myskin - if u r insecure abt arguing for myskin and have to invoke IR all the time for support, then pls accept so
i have supported Mysskin strongly right from Anjaathey days... did Raghavendran bash him so much then??
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982

Originally Posted by
equanimus
Is it going to be released in Bangalore tomorrow? LM engu irundhAlum mEdaikku varavum.
Naan ippo Chennai-vaasi

I don't think it's releasing in Bangalore. PVR website movie listing doesn't have Nandhalala.
Oh, sorry, didn't know that you've moved to Chennai.
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From: ajaybaskar
on 26th November 2010 11:57 AM
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Anban,
Anjaathey release date: 14th Feb 2008
Raghavendran joining date: 25th Jul 2009
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
sappan lerndhu story ellam kalavaindrukaanga - ennadhan irukkunu paakkattum avanga.........as for me, much like querida, im always disappointed with such "thamizh cinemavukku idhuve adhigam", "thamizh cinema munnetram" movies.......6 months later dhaan
pArthAchA?!!
If not, nInga already decide paNNittIngaLA disappointing-nu?
What if this comment on copied fron sappAn is the same range as Aydha ezhuthu suttufied from Amos Perroes
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From: venkkiram
on 26th November 2010 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
I have no qualms about saying I am quite annoyed that Vivek got a Padmasri.

"ஏண்டா இவர்களையெல்லாம் மறந்தீங்க?" ன்னு கோபப்படுவதே "இவனுக்கெல்லாம் போய் கொடுக்கிறானுங்க!" என்ற எரிச்சலைவிட ஆரோக்கியமானது என நினைக்கிறேன்.
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 01:13 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
P_R
I can't speak for either kuroop but quite simply, why would such a reaction be surprising or even something to feel bad about?
I have no qualms about saying I am quite annoyed that Vivek got a Padmasri.

vivek winning padmasri || AR winning oscar - is that what u r saying or did i get it wrong...........if u invoke vivek's padmasri and mocking while supporting koundar, then u r "discourteous" in my books........
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Anban,
Anjaathey release date: 14th Feb 2008
Raghavendran joining date: 25th Jul 2009
Anban - pls note....
Anban, we have no qualms with u supporting myskin but invoking AR fans thingy, IR support and raghavendran's qualifications is in very bad taste.........myskin is quite a good director and u have lots of cinematic evidence to support him instead of these things
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 01:22 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
Nerd, I just pasted the quote from that link... nothing intentional

illeeng, naan ungala sollaleeng. Such remarks can be see in many blogs, teep videos etc.. but a mainstream media making such a wrong comparison while reviewing a film sounded very odd. Avlodhaan

True.
That is the nature of media. summaave seendi vittu comments adhiga paduthuradhukku oru easy route.
illa, some IR fans i know are genuinely disappointed that AR has won global recognition......
This is true, ofcourse, and they should have no qualms about expressing that view nor do they become lesser individuals because of that.
Me, let alone Oscar, I have, as I have confessed recently in IR forum, no wish even for a new movie score from IR. Have enough of him (covered and uncovered, heard and unheard) already, and everything from now on is only a bonus.
Much before Rahman's Oscar - and at a stage when I didnt know about Oscar mechanics - I have wished and *hoped*(

) that IR would get the award for the Indian movies nominated that had his score! And in case of some movies, hoped that they'd be nominated as India's entry and from thereon, IR would get the award that year - it was much later that I understood that Foreign movies dont qualify for individual awards.
By late 2000's, I was past this stage and more worried about getting to cover the "Complete Works of Ilaiyaraja" before I die - which is still not done, and long way off for me, given that by a conservative estimate, I still havent heard atleast 30% of his output.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 26th November 2010 01:23 PM
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

..enna build up vandhuchu for this movie...as expected its going to go wid out a trace..myshkin-vaai mattum illena___________
neeye rendu moonu ticket reserve pannitta inga

...........

seekram pakkattum..enna nest week lendhu periya padamlam release aagudhu continuosa...thukiduvainga.. :P
sappan lerndhu story ellam kalavaindrukaanga - ennadhan irukkunu paakkattum avanga.........as for me, much like querida, im always disappointed with such "thamizh cinemavukku idhuve adhigam", "thamizh cinema munnetram" movies.......6 months later dhaan
pArthAchA?!!
oppudhal vaakkumoolam =
In a way his Kikujiro stimulated me to take Nandalala but Nandalala is not Kikujiro........so without me seeing, i can say it is inspired based on this evidence......

Originally Posted by
Plum
If not, nInga already decide paNNittIngaLA disappointing-nu?
read my post again, i said, im most likely to feel disappointed whenever i watch such hyped movies - given historical evidence of such movies.........i never said, im already disappointed.....

Originally Posted by
Plum
What if this comment on copied fron sappAn is the same range as Aydha ezhuthu suttufied from Amos Perroes
havent people said it and held it against Maniratnam?

im all for defence of mysskin in this regard, but without invoking ragahvendran's qualification, sakkarakatti, ARrahman, etc etc
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From: ajaybaskar
on 26th November 2010 01:28 PM
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Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 01:29 PM
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1. Inspired is almost a well established fact. Copied or not - needs to be seen
2. Point taken
3.
but without invoking ragahvendran's qualification, sakkarakatti, ARrahman, etc etc
indha panchayathukku nInga dhAn lAwyer. helppu vENumna sollunga - jumparEn but you are more than qualified to argue this case
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 01:30 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
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From: raajarasigan
on 26th November 2010 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_seLpP2eaeFA/TOuYv26xwGI/AAAAAAAAA4A/b_WX-kgLRB8/s800/154809_1511880751763_1076716738_31114603_2846460_n .jpg
Sakala
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 02:08 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
illa illa, Anban educational qualification pathhi ellam sollave illa

- he talked about film making qualifications, which is more bizarre ofcourse..........i think he meant tastes which is a subject for arguement
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From: VJerry
on 26th November 2010 02:13 PM
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A review comment - It is straight from the heart to touch our brains.
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 02:15 PM
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http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies...-kikujiro.html
this site is claiming its a mere copy....
i think mysskin's accusation against asst. directors has to be seriously evaluated given he has not gone "entirely" by his "own" experience
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 02:17 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
ethukkunga ippidi ellaam potti.. ingeyum loosu pasanga irukkaanga.. veliyavum pala methaigal irukkaanga..
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
but intha padathula athu nadakkaathu.. wherever there is honesty and dedication, i will support it.. athu yaaraa venaalum irukkattum.. Manmadhan Ambu-kku build up-aa koduthuttu irukkom..
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From: raghavendran
on 26th November 2010 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
na nreviews pathutu dhaan potten..seriya parunga...na post panraduku munnadi 2-3 reviews vandhiduchu...
raavaananukku neenga wait pannadu madhiri na pannala..myshkin flop kudukanum enaku enna vendudhala?....avara apdi expect panra alavukku innum periya aalu agala :P
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 02:24 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
MADDY
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2010/11/26-nandalala-mere-copy-kitano-kikujiro.html
this site is claiming its a mere copy....
i think mysskin's accusation against asst. directors has to be seriously evaluated given he has not gone "entirely" by his "own" experience

as per reliable sources, the story is similar and inspired but no scene is the same as the original.. story is not exactly the same as the movie..
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From: VJerry
on 26th November 2010 02:25 PM
[Full View]

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
ethukkunga ippidi ellaam potti.. ingeyum loosu pasanga irukkaanga.. veliyavum pala methaigal irukkaanga..
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea
oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
but intha padathula athu nadakkaathu.. wherever there is honesty and dedication, i will support it.. athu yaaraa venaalum irukkattum.. Manmadhan Ambu-kku build up-aa koduthuttu irukkom..
When some one says padam hit/super hit/blockbuster even before the release, there is nothing wrong in saying that the movie will fail/flop. This is just a perception.
This is just my thought. Nothing offensive to anban.
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From: raghavendran
on 26th November 2010 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
MADDY
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2010/11/26-nandalala-mere-copy-kitano-kikujiro.html
this site is claiming its a mere copy....
i think mysskin's accusation against asst. directors has to be seriously evaluated given he has not gone "entirely" by his "own" experience

as per reliable sources, the story is similar and inspired but no scene is the same as the original.. story is not exactly the same as the movie..
neenga padam pathuteengala?...adhukullaye sincere,honesty,kattupadunu adichu vidreenga?....

..nanavudhu neengellam potta reviews vechi dhan sonnen..
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Anban
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
na nreviews pathutu dhaan potten..seriya parunga...na post panraduku munnadi 2-3 reviews vandhiduchu...
raavaananukku neenga wait pannadu madhiri na pannala..myshkin flop kudukanum enaku enna vendudhala?....avara apdi expect panra alavukku innum periya aalu agala :P
review yaaru venaalum eluthalaam.. intha good/bad reviews kaasu koduthu kooda vaangalam..
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
ethukkunga ippidi ellaam potti.. ingeyum loosu pasanga irukkaanga.. veliyavum pala methaigal irukkaanga..
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea
oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
but intha padathula athu nadakkaathu.. wherever there is honesty and dedication, i will support it.. athu yaaraa venaalum irukkattum.. Manmadhan Ambu-kku build up-aa koduthuttu irukkom..
When some one says padam hit/super hit/blockbuster even before the release, there is nothing wrong in saying that the movie will fail/flop. This is just a perception.
This is just my thought. Nothing offensive to anban.
athellaam neenga appdii sollravangala poi thaan kekkanum.. naan appidi ellaam solrathillai..
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From: raghavendran
on 26th November 2010 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Anban
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
na nreviews pathutu dhaan potten..seriya parunga...na post panraduku munnadi 2-3 reviews vandhiduchu...
raavaananukku neenga wait pannadu madhiri na pannala..myshkin flop kudukanum enaku enna vendudhala?....avara apdi expect panra alavukku innum periya aalu agala :P
review yaaru venaalum eluthalaam.. intha good/bad reviews kaasu koduthu kooda vaangalam..
apparam edukku reviews post panreenga?
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From: raghavendran
on 26th November 2010 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
ethukkunga ippidi ellaam potti.. ingeyum loosu pasanga irukkaanga.. veliyavum pala methaigal irukkaanga..
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea
oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
but intha padathula athu nadakkaathu.. wherever there is honesty and dedication, i will support it.. athu yaaraa venaalum irukkattum.. Manmadhan Ambu-kku build up-aa koduthuttu irukkom..
When some one says padam hit/super hit/blockbuster even before the release, there is nothing wrong in saying that the movie will fail/flop. This is just a perception.
This is just my thought. Nothing offensive to anban.
athellaam neenga appdii sollravangala poi thaan kekkanum.. naan appidi ellaam solrathillai..
neenga raavananukku enna sonneenganu ellarukkum theriyin...na enna chummava sonnen..based on initial reviews and the lined up films after 26th..ratha sarithram,aadukalam,MMA...thought bad word of mouth wouldn help...en solla kudadha?
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From: VJerry
on 26th November 2010 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Maddy,
Ennamo Raghavendran ettaamclass fail maadhiri project panreenga? Thambi is an MBA student your honour. Pudhu hubbers yaarchachum thappa nenachukka poraanga..

Anban kUda IIM Calcutta-nga. sabAsh sariyAna pOtti!
ethukkunga ippidi ellaam potti.. ingeyum loosu pasanga irukkaanga.. veliyavum pala methaigal irukkaanga..
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea
oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
but intha padathula athu nadakkaathu.. wherever there is honesty and dedication, i will support it.. athu yaaraa venaalum irukkattum.. Manmadhan Ambu-kku build up-aa koduthuttu irukkom..
When some one says padam hit/super hit/blockbuster even before the release, there is nothing wrong in saying that the movie will fail/flop. This is just a perception.
This is just my thought. Nothing offensive to anban.
athellaam neenga appdii sollravangala poi thaan kekkanum.. naan appidi ellaam solrathillai..
naan ungala sollala, just telling that there is nothing wrong in saying wrong about a movie...as we are just viewers.
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From: VJerry
on 26th November 2010 02:40 PM
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Tonight at 7 pm, Kikujiro in UTV world movies.
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 26th November 2010 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Anban
rasigargal sandai podalaam.. but padam varathukku munnaadiyea oothikkum, will sunk without a trace - ellaam romba romba over.. pidikkaatiyum poruthurukkalaam.. i dont have any problem with Maddy's posts ... naanum Raavanan munnaadi appidi thaan wait pannittu irunthen...
na nreviews pathutu dhaan potten..seriya parunga...na post panraduku munnadi 2-3 reviews vandhiduchu...
raavaananukku neenga wait pannadu madhiri na pannala..myshkin flop kudukanum enaku enna vendudhala?....avara apdi expect panra alavukku innum periya aalu agala :P
review yaaru venaalum eluthalaam.. intha good/bad reviews kaasu koduthu kooda vaangalam..
Most of the so-called reviewers does not even qualify to to be a good critic.. Many of these critics review the movies without knowing the basic things involved in film making..
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From: kid-glove
on 26th November 2010 02:50 PM
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A localized adaptation of near-silent tragicomedy road film like Kikujiro is always agreeable in my books. Very much an universal theme.
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From: kid-glove
on 26th November 2010 02:51 PM
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I liked Jeyamohan's quotation in one of the posters.
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 26th November 2010 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
VJerry
Tonight at 7 pm, Kikujiro in UTV world movies.
Nandalala paakkaradhukku munnala idhai patthudanum.. Then we can see how much mishkin has indianised the universal theme..
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
vivek winning padmasri || AR winning oscar - is that what u r saying or did i get it wrong...........
As someone who thinks his star (GM in my case) is streets ahead, I don't have to feel bad about being annoyed that Vivek got padmasri. For what work, mechanical of the award - idhukkuLLa ellAm pOgavE illai. Just as a recognition. Andha kaduppu irukka dhaan seyyin. And - in my case - I would say that is more than justified (adhAvadhu, naanE sollikkuvEn

)
You don't have to feel too bad about nursing such feelings 'ngRen. That's all.
moonjiyai sirichA maadhiriyE vachukkaNumnu ellAm yEn edhirpaakkaNum.

Originally Posted by
MADDY
if u invoke vivek's padmasri and mocking while supporting koundar, then u r "discourteous" in my books........
That I agree.
Sila tayau kaduppu boil aagi koppuLikkum. maththabadi control-A iruppEn.
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 26th November 2010 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
moonjiyai sirichA maadhiriyE vachukkaNumnu ellAm yEn edhirpaakkaNum.
<Dig>

Next signature. Avadhoor pic-um theditte irukken remba naala..
</Dig>
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
You don't have to feel too bad about nursing such feelings 'ngRen. That's all.
moonjiyai sirichA maadhiriyE vachukkaNumnu ellAm yEn edhirpaakkaNum.
ofcourse, its not wrong to have acidity but its going to ruin ur stomach only :P ..........
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bala (Karthik)

Originally Posted by
P_R
moonjiyai sirichA maadhiriyE vachukkaNumnu ellAm yEn edhirpaakkaNum.
<Dig>

Next signature. Avadhoor pic-um theditte irukken remba naala..
</Dig>
Naanum thEdunEn.
He does not come in the full frame when he says that.
You just see part of his face with that expression over Rajini's shoulder.
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 04:20 PM
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have to admit, feeyar has shaken my chinna-vayasulrendhu-enga amma-solli-thandha "never feel bad abt others success - if u cant appreciate, keep quiet atleast", "dont be jealous of others' achievements" kind of morals.........not that i would change, i would still follow my mum's words till my end but i wouldnt feel the same anger if someone deglorifies AR's oscars or my achievements(if any).......P_R
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From: venkkiram
on 26th November 2010 04:54 PM
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1970களில் மலையாளத்தில் அடூர் கோபாலகிருஷ்ணனின் ‘சுயம்வரம்’ வந்தபோது ஒரு திரை விமர்சகர் எழுதினார் ‘மலையாளத்தின் முதல் திரைப்படம்’ என. ஓர் அலங்காரச் சொல்லாட்சி அது. ஆனால் அது ஒரு வரலாற்று உண்மையும்கூட . முற்றிலும் புதிய ஒரு திரை அலையை அது உருவாக்கியது. மலையாளா சினிமாவை சர்வதேச தளத்துக்கு கொண்டு சென்றது.
என் நோக்கில் நந்தலாலா அத்தகைய ஒரு முதல் படம். ஒரு முதல் காலடி.
-- Jemo
(am fully charged to watched this movie after reading this kind of review)
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
have to admit, feeyar has shaken my chinna-vayasulrendhu-enga amma-solli-thandha "never feel bad abt others success - if u cant appreciate, keep quiet atleast", "dont be jealous of others' achievements" kind of morals.........not that i would change, i would still follow my mum's words till my end but i wouldnt feel the same anger if someone deglorifies AR's oscars or my achievements(if any).......P_R

Feeyaar, mission accomplished, alleast one target achieved
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From: Mahen
on 26th November 2010 05:20 PM
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RAghav, actually Nandhalala is getting rave reviews

So far only Sify has given a not so good review..Rediff/behindwoods/TOI/indiaglitz ellam brilliant-nu soluranga
Watching tmrw
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From: Sanjeevi
on 26th November 2010 05:30 PM
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http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies...lm-review.html
'ஒண்ணுக்கொன்னு துணையிருக்கு உலகத்திலே... அன்பு மட்டும்தான் அனாதையா' என்ற பாடல்... விருதுகள், பாராட்டுக்களுக்கு அப்பாற்றபட்ட இசை, மெட்டு!
Nerd kavanikka
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From: venkkiram
on 26th November 2010 05:32 PM
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ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் மகேஷ் முத்துச்சாமி. அழகு... துல்லியம். பொள்ளாச்சி, கோயமுத்தூர் பகுதிகளில் இப்படியெல்லாம் கூட இடங்கள் உள்ளனவா என கேட்க வைக்கிறது அவரது ஒளிப்பதிவு.
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY
have to admit, feeyar has shaken my chinna-vayasulrendhu-enga amma-solli-thandha "never feel bad abt others success - if u cant appreciate, keep quiet atleast", "dont be jealous of others' achievements" kind of morals.........not that i would change, i would still follow my mum's words till my end but i wouldnt feel the same anger if someone deglorifies AR's oscars or my achievements(if any).......P_R

Feeyaar, mission accomplished, alleast one target achieved

ஏதோ நம்மளால முடிஞ்சது
Nesst target: people who denounce hypocrisy. இடம் பொருள் ஏவல் சேவல் கூடி வரட்டும்.
உள்ளொன்று வைத்துப் புறமொன்று பேசிடு
வெள்ளந்தி யால்வரும் வம்பு
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From: raajarasigan
on 26th November 2010 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
இடம் பொருள் ஏவல் சேவல் கூடி வரட்டும்.
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY
have to admit, feeyar has shaken my chinna-vayasulrendhu-enga amma-solli-thandha "never feel bad abt others success - if u cant appreciate, keep quiet atleast", "dont be jealous of others' achievements" kind of morals.........not that i would change, i would still follow my mum's words till my end but i wouldnt feel the same anger if someone deglorifies AR's oscars or my achievements(if any).......P_R

Feeyaar, mission accomplished, alleast one target achieved

ஏதோ நம்மளால முடிஞ்சது
Nesst target: people who denounce hypocrisy. இடம் பொருள் ஏவல் சேவல் கூடி வரட்டும்.
உள்ளொன்று வைத்துப் புறமொன்று பேசிடு
வெள்ளந்தி யால்வரும் வம்பு
u mean to say hypocrisy is good - thats interesting, it opens a wide spectrum* of people and practices in it........i do not have strong opinions on that but still it would be interesting.........
hmmm, ippadiye poi, murder,rape panradhu kooda thappilla-nnu othhuka vechhiduvaanga pola :P
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
ungalukku unga kavalai..

யாராவது non meesicals* படம் பார்த்துட்டு சொல்லுங்கப்பா.
* அதாவது - நாகராஜ சோழன் மாதிரி - meesic இருந்தாலும் சந்தோசம் தானுங்க, இல்லாட்டியும் சந்தோசம் தானுங்க, அப்பிடிங்கிற மாதிரி ஆளா இருக்கணும்.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 26th November 2010 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/review/2010/11/26-nandalala-tamil-film-review.html
'ஒண்ணுக்கொன்னு துணையிருக்கு உலகத்திலே... அன்பு மட்டும்தான் அனாதையா' என்ற பாடல்... விருதுகள், பாராட்டுக்களுக்கு அப்பாற்றபட்ட இசை, மெட்டு!
Nerd kavanikka
படத்தின் ஹீரோ சாட்சாத் இளையராஜாதான் என்பதில் மாற்றுக் கருத்தே இருக்காது. அவரது இசையைத் தவிர்த்துவிட்டு இந்தப் படத்தை 10 நிமிடம் கூட முழுசாகப் பார்க்க முடியாது!
எங்கே வாத்தியங்கள் பேச வேண்டும், எங்கே மவுனங்கள் பேச வேண்டும் என்பதில் இசைஞானிக்கு உள்ள தெளிவு வேறு எவருக்கும் கிடையாது. காட்சிகள் வெகு சாதாரணமாக தெரியும் இடங்களில், வயலின்களை மெலிதாக அழவிட்டு, நம்மை ஈரப்படுத்துகிறார் இசைஞானி. குறிப்பாக அந்த பள்ளிச் சிறுமி, சைக்கிளில் பறந்து போய் ட்ராக்டர் கொண்டு வரும் காட்சி.
ஒண்ணுக்கொன்னு துணையிருக்கு உலகத்திலே... அன்பு மட்டும்தான் அனாதையா' என்ற பாடல்... விருதுகள், பாராட்டுக்களுக்கு அப்பாற்றபட்ட இசை, மெட்டு!
bangalorela innum release aagala pola...
and Sanjeevi! incl.Nerd, oru koottame irukku gavanikka
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From: A.ANAND
on 26th November 2010 06:43 PM
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நந்தலாலா சொந்தக் கதையா... அதிர்ச்சி தரும் மிஷ்கின்!
நந்தலாலா படம் குறித்த பத்திரிகையாளர் சந்திப்பு ஒன்றில், கிகுஜிரோ என்ற ஜப்பானிய படத்தின் தழுவல்தானே இது என்று கேள்வி எழுப்பப்பட்டது.
உடனே அதற்கு பதில் சொல்லாத மிஷ்கின், கோபமாக 'இந்தப் படம் ஒரிஜினல்... இதை காப்பி என்று நிரூபிக்க முடியாது' என்றெல்லாம் ஆவேசப்பட்டார். இடையில் நீண்ட நாட்கள் படம் வெளியாகாமல் இருந்தது.
இப்போது படம் வெளியாகியுள்ளது. சில தினங்களுக்கு முன் பத்திரிகையாளர்களுக்கு சிறப்புக் காட்சி போடப்பட்டது. படம் முடிந்த பிறகு வந்த மிஷ்கின், இது தன்னுடைய சொந்தக் கதை என்றும், தனது மூத்த சகோதரர் ஒருவருக்கு மனநிலை பாதிக்கப்பட்டதாகவும் அதன் பாதிப்பில் எடுத்ததாகவும் கூறினார்.
படம் குறித்த விமர்சனத்தை பிறகு பார்க்கலாம். ஆனால் இந்தப் படம் குறித்த சில உண்மைகளைப் பார்க்கலாம்.
நந்தலாலாவில் வரும் சில பாத்திரங்கள் தவிர, கதை, எடுக்கப்பட்ட விதம், காட்சி அமைப்பு முழுக்க முழுக்க ஜப்பானிய படமான கிகுஜிரோவின் தழுவல் என்பது வெட்ட வெளிச்சமாகியுள்ளது.
நந்தலாலா கதைக்குப் போகும் முன், கிகுஜிரோவின் கதை என்னவென்பதைப் பார்த்துவிடுவோம்:
தகேஷி கிடானோ என்பவர் 1999-ம் ஆண்டு எடுத்த படம்தான் கிகுஜிரோ (Kikujiro). சர்வதேச அளவில் மிகவும் பாராட்டப்பட்ட படம். பட விழாக்களில் பல விருதுகளையும் இந்தப் படம் பெற்றுள்ளது.
ஒரு கோடை விடுமுறையில் ஒரு சிறுவன் தன் தாயைத் தேடிப் புறப்படுகிறான். ஒரு புகைப்படமும் முகவரியும் மட்டுமே தாயின் ஆதாரமாகக் கிடைக்கிறது அவனுக்கு. அவனது பயணத்தில் உடன் சேர்ந்து கொள்கிறான் கிகுஜிரோ என்ற திருடன், ஆனால் சிறுவனுக்கு உதவும் நல்ல மனசுக்காரன்.
அவர்களது நெடுஞ்சாலைப் பயணம் தொடர்கிறது... வழியில் பலதரப்பட்ட மனிதர்களைச் சந்திக்கிறார்கள். அவர்கள் முதலில் முரண்பட்டு பின்னர் உதவுகிறார்கள். சுமோ சண்டைக்காரர்கள் மாதிரி குண்டாக இருவர் எதிர்ப்படுகிறார்கள். கிகுஜிரோவுக்கும் சிறுவனுக்கும் உதவுகிறார்கள்.
குறிப்பிட்ட ஊருக்கு வந்துவிடுகிறார்கள். ஆளுக்கொரு பக்கம் தாயின் வீட்டைத் தேடுகிறார்கள். கடைசியில் கிகுஜிரோ அந்தப் பெண்ணைப் பார்க்கிறான். அவளோ புதிய கணவன், புதிய பெண் குழந்தை என செட்டிலாகிவிட்டிருக்கிறாள். கிகுஜிரோ வந்த விஷயத்தைச் சொன்னதும், தன் மகனைக் கூட்டி வந்து வாழ்க்கையைக் கெடுத்துவிடாதே என்று கெஞ்சுகிறாள்.
அங்கிருந்து கிளம்பும் கிகுஜிரோ, அந்த ஊரில் சிறுவன் தேடும் அம்மா இல்லை என்று பொய் சொல்லிவிட்டுக் கிளம்புகிறான். அப்போது கிகுஜிரோவுக்கு ஒரு ஹோமில் விடப்பட்டுள்ள தனது அம்மா நினைவுக்கு வருகிறாள்.
கடைசியில் தான் தேடும் அம்மா வரமாட்டாள் என்பதைப் புரிந்துகொள்கிறான் சிறுவன். அவனும் கி்குஜிரோவும் அவரவர் வழியில் பிரிகிறார்கள்...
-இப்போது மிஷ்கின் 'சுட்டுள்ள' நந்தலாலாவைப் பாருங்கள்!
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies...-kikujiro.html
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From: Ramakrishna
on 26th November 2010 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
P_R
Not reading any reviews only the excerpts quoted here so there may be some selection bias here: I can't get why BGM would get mentioned so much in a movie review.
podhumakkaLukku idhu nijamaavE avvaLo periya matterA?
ungalukku unga kavalai..

யாராவது non meesicals* படம் பார்த்துட்டு சொல்லுங்கப்பா.
* அதாவது - நாகராஜ சோழன் மாதிரி - meesic இருந்தாலும் சந்தோசம் தானுங்க, இல்லாட்டியும் சந்தோசம் தானுங்க, அப்பிடிங்கிற மாதிரி ஆளா இருக்கணும்.
Music is not mandatory for a movie. But music elevates a movie, particularly mediocre ones. Eg: naan Kadavul
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From: P_R
on 26th November 2010 07:07 PM
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ஐயோ அதெல்லாம் தெரியும்ங்க. அதுக்குள்ளயே நான் இப்பொ போகலை.
என்னைய மாதிரி அலைவரிசைல இருக்கவங்களுக்கு படம் புடிக்குதான்னு தெரிஞ்சுக்கலாம்னு கேட்டேன்.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 26th November 2010 07:09 PM
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theriyum. Chummaa etho sollanumeynu sonnen
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
ஐயோ அதெல்லாம் தெரியும்ங்க. அதுக்குள்ளயே நான் இப்பொ போகலை.
என்னைய மாதிரி அலைவரிசைல இருக்கவங்களுக்கு படம் புடிக்குதான்னு தெரிஞ்சுக்கலாம்னு கேட்டேன்.
athu maathiri reviews-um neraya irukkuthunga... thedi paarunga.. equa, compli review pannaa thaan paappenu sollrelaa?
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From: raajarasigan
on 26th November 2010 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Music is not mandatory for a movie. But music elevates a movie, particularly mediocre ones. Eg: naan Kadavul

ithellam niyayama...
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 07:24 PM
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PR,
இந்தக் கேள்வியை நீங்க இன்னும் உரக்கவே (அதாவது pointed 'ஆவே) கூட கேக்கலாம் 'ங்கறேன்.
Does a good film need a good background score? No. (Unless the dependency is reversed and a good background score is redefined as one that's most suitable for the film.) Otherwise, one can go so far as to say a good background score (i.e. one which is good in itself, as pieces of music etc.) may enhance a film, that's all.
Having said that, one reason why music is perhaps more important to this film than others is that this film is said to be a near-silent film in many places.
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Music is not mandatory for a movie. But music elevates a movie, particularly mediocre ones. Eg: naan Kadavul

ithellam niyayama...
ithu puthu technique.. indirect attack on the enemy by trashing enemy's supporters.. enemy-a direct attack panna mudiyaatha nerangalil romba uthavum..
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
P_R
ஐயோ அதெல்லாம் தெரியும்ங்க. அதுக்குள்ளயே நான் இப்பொ போகலை.
என்னைய மாதிரி அலைவரிசைல இருக்கவங்களுக்கு படம் புடிக்குதான்னு தெரிஞ்சுக்கலாம்னு கேட்டேன்.
athu maathiri reviews-um neraya irukkuthunga... thedi paarunga.. equa, compli review pannaa thaan paappenu sollrelaa?
நான் படங்களைப் பத்தி எழுதும்போது பின்னணி இசையைப் பத்தி அவ்வளவா பேசியது மாதிரியே இல்லையே. Conscious 'ஆ அப்படி இருப்பேன்னு சொல்ல வரல. ஆனா எப்பவுமே BGM அவ்வளவு முக்கியமான அங்கமா எனக்குப் பட்டதில்லை, அதுனால தனியா பேசியிருக்க மாட்டேன்னு சொல்றேன். (பாட்டு நல்லா இருக்குன்னு வேணா சொல்லுவேன், அதுவும் படத்துக்கு அப்பாற்பட்டுத் தான்.)
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
P_R
ஐயோ அதெல்லாம் தெரியும்ங்க. அதுக்குள்ளயே நான் இப்பொ போகலை.
என்னைய மாதிரி அலைவரிசைல இருக்கவங்களுக்கு படம் புடிக்குதான்னு தெரிஞ்சுக்கலாம்னு கேட்டேன்.
athu maathiri reviews-um neraya irukkuthunga... thedi paarunga.. equa, compli review pannaa thaan paappenu sollrelaa?
நான் படங்களைப் பத்தி எழுதும்போது பின்னணி இசையைப் பத்தி அவ்வளவா பேசியது மாதிரியே இல்லையே. Conscious 'ஆ அப்படி இருப்பேன்னு சொல்ல வரல. ஆனா எப்பவுமே BGM அவ்வளவு முக்கியமான அங்கமா எனக்குப் பட்டதில்லை, அதுனால தனியா பேசியிருக்க மாட்டேன்னு சொல்றேன். (பாட்டு நல்லா இருக்குன்னு வேணா சொல்லுவேன், அதுவும் படத்துக்கு அப்பாற்பட்டுத் தான்.)
I understand you.. i think you are fair too.. PR maathiri alaivarisai-na udaney unga nyaamagam.. avvalavu thaan..
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 07:36 PM
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Or complicateur for that matter. எதையோ சொல்ல வரீங்கன்னு புரியுது, but பிடிபடாத எதுவா இருந்தாலும் அதைப் "பண்டிதர்கள்" தான் எழுதுறாங்கன்னு முடிச்சு போடறா மாதிரி இருக்கு!
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 07:38 PM
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Anban,
I didn't take any offence, really. Just trying to put things in perspective.
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 07:40 PM
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If effectiveness of BGM is alone required for a movie, would it be okay to have library of BGM and selecting the most appropriate one? I understand you can like a movie for its writing alone, even if bgm is not good. But tell me -
What if the production design is bad? Is it just as crucial or is it also only to enhance the movie?
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From: Ramakrishna
on 26th November 2010 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
Music is not mandatory for a movie. But music elevates a movie, particularly mediocre ones. Eg: naan Kadavul

ithellam niyayama...
ithu puthu technique.. indirect attack on the enemy by trashing enemy's supporters.. enemy-a direct attack panna mudiyaatha nerangalil romba uthavum..
Aama ba, sema technique ba...
chinna doubt, intha instance la enemy yaaru enemy supporters yaaru?
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
Or complicateur for that matter. எதையோ சொல்ல வரீங்கன்னு புரியுது, but பிடிபடாத எதுவா இருந்தாலும் அதைப் "பண்டிதர்கள்" தான் எழுதுறாங்கன்னு முடிச்சு போடறா மாதிரி இருக்கு!
naan eppovume appidi nenachathu kedaiyaathu.. enakkulla neraya "pandithar-ness" irukku.. athellaam velila kaamikrathillai.. The characteristic that I wanted to highlight in you people is that of an ideal critic, who analyses the movie without any preconceived notions or bias..
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From: AravindMano
on 26th November 2010 07:46 PM
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Free! Free! Spoiler Free!
Mysskin confirms and conforms to his style - a truely and entirely visual style - love for images, views, observations, prolonged slo-mos.... But I feel it's still consistent. Largely it's enjoyable. At times you refuse to believe it's silly.
With respective to narrative - quite a few eye-brow raising decisions. Could hear the audience panting and gasping and all that.
He gets the spirit of a road film (as I have understood it) quite easily, but one cannot help wonder why it has to be strictly poignant & poignant only. After a while, it's almost like, அடுத்த டச் என்னன்னு பாத்தீங்கனாக்க..
His acting didn't work much for me, but his humour - both the actor and director's - is on the mark. Could see audience connecting really well. Rohini is barely there. The way Mysskin paints the first picture and impression of her
And Nasser - in what could possibly be the shortest cameo ever by a popular actor!
It would be really interesting to see the reaction to this film. Imagine the very first scene being a slo-mo pulled along for more than two minutes. I almost thought I will be ready to stop the dude sitting next to me from running away.
Was nodding all along at the references to Kikujiro. A particular idea in the original film which I thought would be 'indianized' remained unaltered and Mysskin hands over the baton to Raja in that particular scene. I liked that decision very much.
And it's sad to see people still texting 'Hey! Mysskin lifted from a japanese..'. And when the censor board certificate was put up, a guy shouted 'Kikujiro' and made sure we don't forget it.
2 hours 47 minutes nu sonnAnga, 2 hours 07 minutes dhAn kAmichAinga. PVR-A editor-A nu theriyalai.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 26th November 2010 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
PR,
இந்தக் கேள்வியை நீங்க இன்னும் உரக்கவே (அதாவது pointed 'ஆவே) கூட கேக்கலாம் 'ங்கறேன்.
Does a good film need a good background score? No. (Unless the dependency is reversed and a good background score is redefined as one that's most suitable for the film.) Otherwise, one can go so far as to say a good background score (i.e. one which is good in itself, as pieces of music etc.) may enhance a film, that's all.
Having said that, one reason why music is perhaps more important to this film than others is that this film is said to be a near-silent film in many places.
BGM-a yen pirichu paakureenga? From dialogues to flute every sound in a movie can be attributed to a Background sound..right? In that sense, a good Background sound is a mandatory for a movie.
Sound and scene thana movieye....if musical BGM performs the important work of filling the "sound" part of a movie , why it is seen as a separate entity. Even if a movie is silent,it cannot be accomplished without a music director right?..because he has the sense of "when the sound should be muted". Myskin cannot decide on it - or will not have the real sense of sound to decide on it.
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From: MADDY
on 26th November 2010 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
The characteristic that I wanted to highlight in you people is that of an ideal critic, who analyses the movie without any preconceived notions or bias..
hmm, i disagree a bit as they all have biases in variable proportions - nothing wrong i would say..........i still love their writings
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From: Ramakrishna
on 26th November 2010 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Anban
The characteristic that I wanted to highlight in you people is that of an ideal critic, who analyses the movie without any preconceived notions or bias..
hmm, i disagree a bit as they all have biases in variable proportions - nothing wrong i would say..........i still love their writings
movies review pannumbothu standard rules nu ethaavathu irukkaa, using which u can review a movie objectively?
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
What if the production design is bad? Is it just as crucial or is it also only to enhance the movie?
Plum,
I'm not sure I got the (2nd) question. This can't be a "this or that" situation at all. Production is crucial only to the extent it can enhance a film, no?
In any case, I don't think the analogy with production design is valid because the background score work is recognized and considered much more important by most people.
I know this has been a long-running debate between you and PR, but I'm not fully aware of the things you two have discussed. Basically, I see where PR is coming from when he says that some reviewers make too much of the background score when talking about films. That said, I do think this is very much understandable (an understatement!) considering the iconic statures of music directors in general and the enormous influence of some composers (I'm talking about Raaja, of course) have had in shaping background scores for films. May be, we can take this to a different thread.
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 08:15 PM
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
BGM-a yen pirichu paakureenga? From dialogues to flute every sound in a movie can be attributed to a Background sound..right? In that sense, a good Background sound is a mandatory for a movie.
பிரிச்சுப் பாக்க வேண்டாம்னு தாங்க நானும் சொல்றேன். What you're basically saying that everything audible should be seen together as the overall soundscape of the film. Which is absolutely spot on. இப்படிச் சொல்லும்போதே, music composition 'ங்கற வட்டத்த விட்டு வெளியில வந்தாச்சு, இல்லையா? I don't know where we're disagreeing then.

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Even if a movie is silent,it cannot be accomplished without a music director right?..because he has the sense of "when the sound should be muted". Myskin cannot decide on it - or will not have the real sense of sound to decide on it.
A director may have that sense or may not, that's not the point. Directors do depend on a lot of people for this, the sound designer and so on. [Again, I don't there is much point in discussing this in abstract terms (like asking, "so are the roles of Raaja and Resul Pookutty equally important to a film?" or something to that effect).]
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 08:28 PM
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In many cases, i think BGM was great is sort of a blind statement in reviews. Rarely do they put in the amount of thought over BGM, that, say, a sureshkumar does. Nevertheless, they do notice and feel it. As you said, it would be interesting to read pre-IR movie reviews and how much BGM was appreciated then. Answer, we know more or less intuitively, is that it was rarely appreciated. Considering that popular reviews in vikatan etc in 80s - the then equivalent of sify, indiaglitz etc - didnt even appreciate IR or BgM in such BGM-iconic movies as mouna raagam, nayagan etc, one can safely assume that reviewers today are more obliged to notice or appreciate BGM as a function of popular culture appreciation norms than inherent urge or observation.
This, i would like to set aside. For the purposes of this discussion, lets take say sureshkumar's bgm-conscious reviews or bgm-specific reviews.
Would i have noticed or appreciated BGM if not for the fortune of becoming a cineaste in IR's era? Dont know. Yet, i know that i noticed and felt the impact of bgm in movies like mounaraagam whence i hardly had any knowledge or awareness of it. I cant think of mounaraagam's goodness without the BGM. I just can't. Watch the Kannada remake for instance. Watch the Kannada remake of Swathi Muthyam. There are other factors such as inferor actors etc, but the biggest void I feel is the poor bgm.
Dayavaan with its music and bgm - i doubt it would have been good even with kamal and mani helming it but with laxmi-pyare and whoever did the hindi bgm. With vinod and feroz, it just lost deposit.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 26th November 2010 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
BGM-a yen pirichu paakureenga? From dialogues to flute every sound in a movie can be attributed to a Background sound..right? In that sense, a good Background sound is a mandatory for a movie.
பிரிச்சுப் பாக்க வேண்டாம்னு தாங்க நானும் சொல்றேன். What you're basically saying that everything audible should be seen together as the overall soundscape of the film. Which is absolutely spot on. இப்படிச் சொல்லும்போதே, music composition 'ங்கற வட்டத்த விட்டு வெளியில வந்தாச்சு, இல்லையா? I don't know where we're disagreeing then
Otherwise, one can go so far as to say a good background score (i.e. one which is good in itself, as pieces of music etc.) may enhance a film, that's all.
idha ellathukkum solallamgreen. Even for acting - Good acting is necessary for a movie. - NO - An intelligent cinematographer and a musician can evoke whatever feel necessary for a scene right? Indha mandatory/optional vaishayamthan idikudhu...
When an actor carries a scene on his shoulder single handedly and elicit the impact - he is seen as an integral part of a movie. But when a music directors does it - it is seen as an accessory.What I mean is that the music director has been acting as the most important part of the "sound design" of movie apart from ofcourse the sound engineers. Calling BGM a not so mandatory part for a movie dont sound right.
ok..movies could be made without BGM - but can we call vayalum vazhvum stuff a movie...it would be theoritically a movie....avlothaan..impact fula eduthutu movienu epdi othukka mudiyin?..is it always possible to take away the BGM part of a movie?
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From: Plum
on 26th November 2010 08:39 PM
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I think i would need some examples of acclaimed movies with ordinary/no/poor bgm to even relate to "good movie doesnt need bgm" thing
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From: kid-glove
on 26th November 2010 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
I think i would need some examples of acclaimed movies with ordinary/no/poor bgm to even relate to "good movie doesnt need bgm" thing
Pushpak
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From: Anban
on 26th November 2010 09:27 PM
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super awesome rave reviews in orkut by the public.. padam 3/4 naal nalla odinaa pothum.. must be dead low budget..
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From: V_S
on 26th November 2010 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
When an actor carries a scene on his shoulder single handedly and elicit the impact - he is seen as an integral part of a movie. But when a music directors does it - it is seen as an accessory.What I mean is that the music director has been acting as the most important part of the "sound design" of movie apart from ofcourse the sound engineers. Calling BGM a not so mandatory part for a movie dont sound right.
Excellent point, I totally agree!
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From: jaiganes
on 26th November 2010 10:49 PM
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When someone makes a near perfect movie, that conveys everything unambiguously with images alone for most part, there is absolutely no need for music - Sounds on the other hand are very very important - important in establishing setting, location, time etc., Music is a kind of non obvious commentary on the image being shown. It is unnecessary absolutely when the audience is all at the level of equanar, koindha kayyirai and public relationar. rest of us need "small subtle" hint dropping bread crumbs along the path the image travels in a movie. In case of indian theatre, the "nataka" tradition which had the harmonium driven orchestra hidden in the trenches infront of the stage, provided that sort of live "cue dropping".
With modernization, the need for obvious encapsulation of purpose of the scene became unnecessary and "minimalism" became a necessity, however since our audience are so backward in film appreciation, film makers need someone like Ilaiyaraja who would continuously work with "silence" till the day when someone comes up with "coen" brothers kinda absolutely universal imagery that literally speaks a 1000 words.
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From: equanimus
on 26th November 2010 11:59 PM
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Plum/Vivasaayi/jaiganes,
"Good music in itself" பிரதானம் இல்லைன்னு தானே சொன்னேன்?! That doesn't automatically mean poor or no background score. Functional/adequate, decent, இப்படிப் பல levels இருக்குல்ல? All I said was (and I suppose PR's point is the same; he can clarify if he differs), background score நல்லா இருக்கா இல்லையாங்கறத இவ்வளவு பிரதானப்படுத்தத் தேவையில்லை. அதாவது பொதுவா சில விமரிசனங்கள்ல பிரதானப்படுத்துற அளவுக்கு. இந்தப் படத்துக்குச் சொல்லல.
Apart from that, I think Plum has got the crux of my point. Raaja's background scores are singular and I don't think we can take him alone as the point of reference. But like I said, he is one of the reasons why we're even having this discussion. அவர் பல படங்களுக்கு அற்புதமா போடுற மாதிரி, வேற யாரும் போடுடறது இல்லை.

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Otherwise, one can go so far as to say a good background score (i.e. one which is good in itself, as pieces of music etc.) may enhance a film, that's all.
idha ellathukkum solallamgreen. Even for acting - Good acting is necessary for a movie. - NO - An intelligent cinematographer and a musician can evoke whatever feel necessary for a scene right? Indha mandatory/optional vaishayamthan idikudhu...
கண்டிப்பா! (Though there are degrees, we can't say the director is ultimately the one who envisions everything and equate everything else as equally crucial but subordinate contributions.) There are many great films in which the acting is not great in itself. Hitchcock said actors should be treated like cattle. Again this is not about just esoteric foreign films. Take our own Mani Ratnam. Isn't the acting good in almost all his films? Again, the same example can be used for music too. There are some who say his films were never the same after he stopped working with Raaja. This is where I completely differ. Did Mani Ratnam's films with Raaja have great background scores? Absolutely! Is Rahman doing just as great a job? I think not! But does this mean Mani Ratnam's films after 1992 are handicapped in any sense? Not at all. He continues to make some great films. I rest my case.

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
When an actor carries a scene on his shoulder single handedly and elicit the impact - he is seen as an integral part of a movie. But when a music directors does it - it is seen as an accessory.
Who said that BGM is not to be seen as an integral part of a movie? அதோட தனியான greatness அவ்வளவு முக்கியமில்லை 'ங்க்றது தானே சொன்னதே. Let me go even a step further. I think a lot of Raaja's background scores are great in themselves. They transcend the film. A lot of fans don't do justice to Raaja's genius when they suggest that his BGMs are great because they suited the tone of the respective films. (ரொம்ப முக்கியம்!) I'd be tempted to say they are great pieces of composition in themselves, and among other things, they also suited the film.
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From: V_S
on 27th November 2010 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
Who said that BGM is not to be seen as an integral part of a movie? அதோட தனியான greatness அவ்வளவு முக்கியமில்லை 'ங்க்றது தானே சொன்னதே. Let me go even a step further. I think a lot of Raaja's background scores are great in themselves. They transcend the film. A lot of fans don't do justice to Raaja's genius when they suggest that his BGMs are great because they suited the tone of the respective films. (ரொம்ப முக்கியம்!) I'd be tempted to say they are great pieces of composition in themselves, and among other things, they also suited the film.
So, If I understand correctly, should we apply the same to actors as well? like will we say NT, KH always act well and they do, what is suited to the film, why should we praise them for their great acting talent.? May be I am taking it too literally, but I just take it this way from your perspective. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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From: equanimus
on 27th November 2010 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
In many cases, i think BGM was great is sort of a blind statement in reviews. Rarely do they put in the amount of thought over BGM, that, say, a sureshkumar does. Nevertheless, they do notice and feel it. As you said, it would be interesting to read pre-IR movie reviews and how much BGM was appreciated then. Answer, we know more or less intuitively, is that it was rarely appreciated. Considering that popular reviews in vikatan etc in 80s - the then equivalent of sify, indiaglitz etc - didnt even appreciate IR or BgM in such BGM-iconic movies as mouna raagam, nayagan etc, one can safely assume that reviewers today are more obliged to notice or appreciate BGM as a function of popular culture appreciation norms than inherent urge or observation.
This, i would like to set aside.
Well said. I think Raaja's influence in this regard is tremendous. In this sense, I think PR's basic allegation (he said this once on Twitter, I think; போட்டுக் கொடுத்துட்டேனோ?) that it's usually Raaja fans who insist on a truly impressive background score is quite valid!

Originally Posted by
Plum
For the purposes of this discussion, lets take say sureshkumar's bgm-conscious reviews or bgm-specific reviews.
Would i have noticed or appreciated BGM if not for the fortune of becoming a cineaste in IR's era? Dont know. Yet, i know that i noticed and felt the impact of bgm in movies like mounaraagam whence i hardly had any knowledge or awareness of it. I cant think of mounaraagam's goodness without the BGM. I just can't. Watch the Kannada remake for instance. Watch the Kannada remake of Swathi Muthyam. There are other factors such as inferor actors etc, but the biggest void I feel is the poor bgm.
Dayavaan with its music and bgm - i doubt it would have been good even with kamal and mani helming it but with laxmi-pyare and whoever did the hindi bgm. With vinod and feroz, it just lost deposit.
About Dayavan, I say exactly the same thing to everyone. It's impossible to watch it beyond a minute simply because the horrible background score would come up. Beyond how poorly remade it was in a general sense, it's incredibly stupid to not have simply reused the iconic score. (I watched a few scenes of pithAmagan's Kannada remake and had the same problem, but it wasn't so unbelievably silly because it appeared it had more or less the score rearranged with some minor tweaks. I suppose directly reusing the tracks of an already finished film comes with its own baggage of technical difficulties.) But looking at various remakes is just way too restrictive for this discussion. Generally speaking, most remakes are underwhelming. Why? Remakes are often poor not because the original was so great, but because the ones who're remaking it are almost never a fraction as good as those who made the original. And on top of this, a score that attempts to replaces Raaja's score is bound to grate on one's nerves. The real question should be if Mani Ratnam would have been able to make a film like nAyagan with a background score from some composer who's not of the order of Raaja? Extremely vague and hypothetical as this question is, in the final analysis, I think my answer would be yes. Obviously it wouldn't have been the same (not because Raaja's my god, but because a difference in contribution in any department would result in a different film), but it's likely to have been in the same ballpark.
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From: equanimus
on 27th November 2010 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
V_S
So, If I understand correctly, should we apply the same to actors as well? like will we say NT, KH always act well and they do, what is suited to the film, why should we praise them for their great acting talent.? May be I am taking it too literally, but I just take it this way from your perspective. Please correct me if I am wrong.
V_S,
ஆகா! பாராட்டக் கூடாது 'ன்னெல்லாம் சொல்லலிங்க! In fact, படத்தோட scope 'ஐ எல்லாம் தாண்டி பாராட்ட வேண்டிய விஷயம்னு தானே சொல்றேன். (And IMO this is applicable to artists like Kamal and Sivaji as well, though to a much lesser extent.) I wonder which part of my previous post made you think I was asking, "why should we praise them for doing what is suited to the film?"
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From: jaiganes
on 27th November 2010 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
Plum
In many cases, i think BGM was great is sort of a blind statement in reviews. Rarely do they put in the amount of thought over BGM, that, say, a sureshkumar does. Nevertheless, they do notice and feel it. As you said, it would be interesting to read pre-IR movie reviews and how much BGM was appreciated then. Answer, we know more or less intuitively, is that it was rarely appreciated. Considering that popular reviews in vikatan etc in 80s - the then equivalent of sify, indiaglitz etc - didnt even appreciate IR or BgM in such BGM-iconic movies as mouna raagam, nayagan etc, one can safely assume that reviewers today are more obliged to notice or appreciate BGM as a function of popular culture appreciation norms than inherent urge or observation.
This, i would like to set aside.
Well said. I think Raaja's influence in this regard is tremendous. In this sense, I think PR's basic allegation (he said this once on Twitter, I think; போட்டுக் கொடுத்துட்டேனோ?) that it's usually Raaja fans who insist on a truly impressive background score is quite valid!

Originally Posted by
Plum
For the purposes of this discussion, lets take say sureshkumar's bgm-conscious reviews or bgm-specific reviews.
Would i have noticed or appreciated BGM if not for the fortune of becoming a cineaste in IR's era? Dont know. Yet, i know that i noticed and felt the impact of bgm in movies like mounaraagam whence i hardly had any knowledge or awareness of it. I cant think of mounaraagam's goodness without the BGM. I just can't. Watch the Kannada remake for instance. Watch the Kannada remake of Swathi Muthyam. There are other factors such as inferor actors etc, but the biggest void I feel is the poor bgm.
Dayavaan with its music and bgm - i doubt it would have been good even with kamal and mani helming it but with laxmi-pyare and whoever did the hindi bgm. With vinod and feroz, it just lost deposit.
About Dayavan, I say exactly the same thing to everyone. It's impossible to watch it beyond a minute simply because the horrible background score would come up. Beyond how poorly remade it was in a general sense, it's incredibly stupid to not have simply reused the iconic score. (I watched a few scenes of pithAmagan's Kannada remake and had the same problem, but it wasn't so unbelievably silly because it appeared it had more or less the score rearranged with some minor tweaks. I suppose directly reusing the tracks of an already finished film comes with its own baggage of technical difficulties.) But looking at various remakes is just way too restrictive for this discussion. Generally speaking, most remakes are underwhelming. Why? Remakes are often poor not because the original was so great, but because the ones who're remaking it are almost never a fraction as good as those who made the original. And on top of this, a score that attempts to replaces Raaja's score is bound to grate on one's nerves. The real question should be if Mani Ratnam would have been able to make a film like nAyagan with a background score from some composer who's not of the order of Raaja? Extremely vague and hypothetical as this question is, in the final analysis, I think my answer would be yes. Obviously it wouldn't have been the same (not because Raaja's my god, but because a difference in contribution in any department would result in a different film), but it's likely to have been in the same ballpark.
I think you have understood me wrong.
I am with you when you say that a great BGM is not mandatory.
Most of the Hrishikesh mukherjee's earlier movies and even some great bengali gems had very little to go by BGM. It is absolutely great to have someone like Raaja scoring if you are making the movie for mass consumption and not some "show my film to my friends in a projection theatre" project.
Why? because most of the audience have artistic sensibilities at the level of government office clerks and concentration of a 5 year old boy. For this audience someone has to keep on repeating what the "frame" says. And the best guy in that business is Raaja. Pidipadaadha vishayaththayum pesaama puriya vaikkuradhula Raaja samarthar.
For example, pidhamagan sakthi koani pai scene has a prelude BGM and once into the scene another BGM that creates a "Vayithula puli karaikkara" effect. Offcourse there are thousand music directors who can create a beautiful BGM piece (that shows their orchestrar knowledge and arrangement skills), but Raaja goes for minimalistic, non musical effect. The fact that bala is such an auteur creating hitting images is another thing, in that place even if Rama Narayanan had directed that scene, Raaja would have underscored it in the same impressive fashion.
As a counter to the Mani not with Ilaiyaraaja films, the music (songs and BGM ) have been very impressive, but the reaching out to masses, audience involvement in his post ilaiyaraaja movies has been very little(except Roja), offcourse Auteur groups and intellectual praise for the films like Iruvar has in fact grown more while connection with audience has waned.
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 01:21 AM
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very good post Equa.. but sometimes irrelevant BGMs irritate me to the core and spoil my mood while watching the movie..
Ex. Vetrimaran's Pollathavan.. Choir music ellaam

Aadukalam trailer kooda paakka pudikkala..
cant blame the MD.. the same GVP gave very relevant BGM for Aayirathil Oruvan.
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
As a counter to the Mani not with Ilaiyaraaja films, the music (songs and BGM ) have been very impressive, but the reaching out to masses, audience involvement in his post ilaiyaraaja movies has been very little(except Roja), offcourse Auteur groups and intellectual praise for the films like Iruvar has in fact grown more while connection with audience has waned.
Brilliantly written.. Relevance and nativity are two things that are very very important.. Mani has completely lost it these days..
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From: equanimus
on 27th November 2010 02:15 AM
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jaiganes,
பொறுங்க, ஒவ்வொண்ணா (அதாவது, ஒவ்வொரு post 'ஆ) தான் வர முடியின்.

Actually, there seems to be an annoying bug in the forum that disallows me to write a new post for a while after I submit one. (Or the mods have imposed some kind of word or post limit considering the sudden rise in the frequency and size of my posts!)
Actually, I did understand what you were saying in your first post, but addressed you as well just in case, as you said "absolutely no need for music" etc. which is not what I was arguing for.

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
When someone makes a near perfect movie, that conveys everything unambiguously with images alone for most part, there is absolutely no need for music - Sounds on the other hand are very very important - important in establishing setting, location, time etc., Music is a kind of non obvious commentary on the image being shown.
So, yeah, basically what I want to clarify at the outset here is, I'm not arguing for this, a filmmaking style where there is little or no background score.

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
It is unnecessary absolutely when the audience is all at the level of equanar, koindha kayyirai and public relationar. rest of us need "small subtle" hint dropping bread crumbs along the path the image travels in a movie.
Hilarious twisting of the handles! Anyway, I basically don't agree with this idea that a background score is essentially to make the film accessible to all audience and is not required in case of an audience of a certain "level." நீங்க சொல்ல வர்றது என்னன்னு புரியுது (I think you are referring to a film like 'No Country for Old Men' when you talk about modern films with really sparse scores), but this is just tied to the storytelling/filmmaking tradition and style of various cultures, as you say. In our case, the Indian theatre, folk art etc. எல்லா level 'க்கும் பொருந்தும்.

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
As a counter to the Mani not with Ilaiyaraaja films, the music (songs and BGM ) have been very impressive, but the reaching out to masses, audience involvement in his post ilaiyaraaja movies has been very little(except Roja), offcourse Auteur groups and intellectual praise for the films like Iruvar has in fact grown more while connection with audience has waned.
This is not relevant to the discussion, but I do think you've a point here. I think Rahman's reach within Tamilnadu has never been as profound as Raaja's reach. But again, this is so not because Rahman's score was too subtle for the masses or something! (I know you wouldn't say that but just highlighting this point here.) It's rather because Raaja's scores (and I mean, primarily the songs) was always readily identifiable as made for the Tamil audience at large.
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From: V_S
on 27th November 2010 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
V_S
So, If I understand correctly, should we apply the same to actors as well? like will we say NT, KH always act well and they do, what is suited to the film, why should we praise them for their great acting talent.? May be I am taking it too literally, but I just take it this way from your perspective. Please correct me if I am wrong.
V_S,
ஆகா! பாராட்டக் கூடாது 'ன்னெல்லாம் சொல்லலிங்க! In fact, படத்தோட scope 'ஐ எல்லாம் தாண்டி பாராட்ட வேண்டிய விஷயம்னு தானே சொல்றேன். (And IMO this is applicable to artists like Kamal and Sivaji as well, though to a much lesser extent.)
I wonder which part of my previous post made you think I was asking, "why should we praise them for doing what is suited to the film?"
Equa,
I was referring to this:

Originally Posted by
equanimus
A lot of fans don't do justice to Raaja's genius when they suggest that his BGMs are great because they suited the tone of the respective films
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From: jaiganes
on 27th November 2010 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
jaiganes,
பொறுங்க, ஒவ்வொண்ணா (அதாவது, ஒவ்வொரு post 'ஆ) தான் வர முடியின்.

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மன்சுக்கோ தல! கொஞ்சம் ஜெர்க் ஆகி அவசரப்பட்டுட்டேன்.
a filmmaking style where there is little or no background score.
I think this is a style most of the european "purists" emphatically champion for. I think there is a merit in this style. However when there is confusion and lack of appreciation in both ends of the line (the maker and the market), some additional underlining by sound and music is necessary in my opinion.
I loved the way Coen brothers used music in "Fargo".
There would be altogether 5 to 6 theme pieces. While the movie is categorized as "Dark comedy" by video stores and film librarians, a mere traversal of theme would give a totally different picture. It conveys what writers might have written about a scene, but what might not have been shot and seen. It is the implied that is implied with music. Music rarely makes its appearance in the movie, but whereever it appears it does not give a "dark comedy" taste - but a rather melancholic, sad take of "goings on". The movie visually is on a different track, blood spills on snow, but there is no "judgemental" or "sympathetic" twisting of scene to establish a "victim" or "perpetrator" in the movie
Here is a beautiful scene...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mcfr...eature=related
Already the top angle shot says how jerry is trapped. And then the theme plays - It is like a sad melody of a superior power watching poor jerry who is about to bring about a bloody conundrum into life. The first top angle shot is enough for some.. but for ppl like me, the lamenting music that plays by the side, completes the picture, then the film makers go on to say it clearly with the "ice scraping" scene.... When the scene ends, we dont even remember if the music opened the scene, but upon recollection, the music did make its mark and it was more on the subconscious levels and not on the obvious plane.
Here is a link to the longer version of the theme...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4NCC...eature=related
On a closer hearing of the theme, there is a "Sergio Leone" feel to the score. Clever ways in which music composers can hook you up with references that are never obvious...
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From: Plum
on 27th November 2010 04:32 AM
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Pushpak is a fine example. I dont remember if there was any bg score to it. But point taken. Can relate atleast now
Equa, when it is said that the score is absolutely perfect for the movie, the implication about its standaloneness isnt necessarily "not great".
It is tough to articulate good bgm(versus good writing) but intuitively, I feel the impact of good bgm at the same level as good writing. Only examples might half-articulate what i am implying here. But examples will simplify the thought and convey a different meaning as well so not sure how to articulate this.
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 05:38 AM
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புஷ்பக் வரை சல்லடை வைத்தெல்லாம் தேடிப் போகத் தேவையில்லை. கருப்பு வெள்ளை படங்கள் நிறைய சொல்லலாம். இன்றைக்கும் சிவாஜி, எம்.ஜி.ஆர், ஜெமினி போன்ற நடிகர்களின் படங்களை நிறைய முறை பார்த்து பார்த்து ரசிக்கிறோம். காட்சிகளுக்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்ட பின்னணி இசையில் லயிக்காமல் நம்மால் இன்றும் முழு நேர படத்தையும் பார்க்க முடிகிறது.
வண்ணப்படங்கள் என எடுத்துக்கொண்டால், விசு, வி.சேகர் போன்றவர்களின் எல்லாப் படங்களையும் சொல்லலாம். சம்சாரம் அது மின்சாரம் படத்தில் பின்னணி இசையாக பல இடங்களில் நிரப்பப் பட்டது பாலுவின் குரலில் சம்சாரம் அது மின்சாரம் என்ற பாடல் தான். இதுபோன்ற பல படங்களை வெகுஜனம் திரள் திரளாக பார்த்து ரசித்திருக்கிறது. தற்போது வந்த அங்காடித் தெரு இந்த காலத்திற்கு சிறந்த உதாரணம்.
சிறந்த இசையால் படங்கள் மேம்படும் நிலை ஒரு புறம், இன்னொரு புறம் படங்களில் அந்த இசையை ஒப்பிடும் போது தரமற்ற நிலையில் இருந்தாலும் வெற்றிப்படங்களாக, என்றென்றும் பார்த்து ரசிக்க வைக்கும் படைப்புக்களாக வழங்க முடியும் என்பதற்கு வெற்றிகரமாக ஓடிய பல படங்கள் உதாரணம்.
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 08:55 AM
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வீட்டு வேலைகள் மலிந்து கிடக்கும் வேளையிலும், நந்தலாலா படத்தை நாளை இரவுக் காட்சிக்கு (நான் மட்டும்..) சென்று பார்க்க, மனைவியிடம் அனுமதி வாங்கியாகிவிட்டது.. மிஷ்கினுக்காக எப்படியெல்லாம் போராட வேண்டியிருக்கிறது!
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From: MADDY
on 27th November 2010 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
As a counter to the Mani not with Ilaiyaraaja films, the music (songs and BGM ) have been very impressive, but the reaching out to masses, audience involvement in his post ilaiyaraaja movies has been very little(except Roja), offcourse Auteur groups and intellectual praise for the films like Iruvar has in fact grown more while connection with audience has waned.
This is not relevant to the discussion, but I do think you've a point here. I think Rahman's reach within Tamilnadu has never been as profound as Raaja's reach. But again, this is so not because Rahman's score was too subtle for the masses or something! (I know you wouldn't say that but just highlighting this point here.) It's rather because Raaja's scores (and I mean, primarily the songs) was always readily identifiable as made for the Tamil audience at large.
Jai and Equa - Post-AR, Mani has largely made movies with national theme unlike mouna ragam or agni........how do you expect tamil masses to connect with a movie on north-east terrorist's plights or mumbai riots..........its mighty unfair to blame AR here, it was mani's conscious effort to go national.....
and Equa - i disagree to "I think Rahman's reach within Tamilnadu has never been as profound as Raaja's reach."..........AR was very effective in urban pockets and u would be surprised to know AR's penetration even in south of madurai.........Ajay had said, how rangdebasnti etc ran only for AR in Nagercoil...........infact i grew up in chennai and in late 80s, it was michael jackson, cheb kalid like artistes breaking to markets and we desperately hoped for someone with a better sound packaging to hit tamil coasts and were hardly listening to raaja.........i mean to say, Raaja was not exactly as dominant in chennai and urban pockets which can be said for AR in rural pockets.....
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
Who said that BGM is not to be seen as an integral part of a movie? அதோட தனியான greatness அவ்வளவு முக்கியமில்லை 'ங்க்றது தானே சொன்னதே. Let me go even a step further. I think a lot of Raaja's background scores are great in themselves. They transcend the film. A lot of fans don't do justice to Raaja's genius when they suggest that his BGMs are great because they suited the tone of the respective films. (ரொம்ப முக்கியம்!) I'd be tempted to say they are great pieces of composition in themselves, and among other things, they also suited the film.
Then I'd say you got your priorities wrong. The foremost importance of non-diegetic music is to convey the intent of the filmmaker (Jai's Fargo example or Brion's orchestral score in Magnolia for the operatic sweep). And with different leitmotifs, recur and interwove different tracks together. Or if you're that good,
counterpoint.
All it takes is one mustafa mustafa theme to turn you off. (VTV)
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 10:01 AM
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To build on production design example, 'set nalla pOteenga thambi'. But. Ethuva irunthalum, andha kadhaiku Ondri irukkOnum..
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by
equanimus
PR,
இந்தக் கேள்வியை நீங்க இன்னும் உரக்கவே (அதாவது pointed 'ஆவே) கூட கேக்கலாம் 'ங்கறேன்.
Does a good film need a good background score? No. (Unless the dependency is reversed and a good background score is redefined as one that's most suitable for the film.) Otherwise, one can go so far as to say a good background score (i.e. one which is good in itself, as pieces of music etc.) may enhance a film, that's all.
Having said that, one reason why music is perhaps more important to this film than others is that this film is said to be a near-silent film in many places.
Actually I wasn't trying to launch a general discussion. அதெல்லாம் ஏற்கனவே பேசியாச்சு. For me BGM is at best icing on a good cake. I was surprised to read so many reviews mention BGM as much as they do here that's all.
BGM reflaces dialogue etc. is a bit of உயர்வு நவிர்ச்சி for me. அதாவது for me. MD first credit in titles, fosters etc. are things I can never understand. So I wasn't trying to get into a general discussion - atleast not now.
I was merely looking for the revee of someone (like me) for whom BGM is not such a big deal in the overall scheme of things.
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
As a counter to the Mani not with Ilaiyaraaja films, the music (songs and BGM ) have been very impressive, but the reaching out to masses, audience involvement in his post ilaiyaraaja movies has been very little(except Roja),
இல்லீங்னா. பம்பாய், அலைபாயுதே எல்லாம் தமிழில் மட்டும் என்றில்லாமல், மற்ற மொழிகளிலும் வெளியாகி பல ரசிகர்களை வசிகரித்த படங்கள். அக்னி நட்சத்திரம், மௌனராகம், இதயத்தை திருடாதே படங்களை பார்த்த அப்போதைய இளைஞர் பட்டாளத்திற்கு பம்பாய், அலைபாயுதே படங்களை பார்த்து ரசித்த இளைஞர் பட்டாளம் சற்றும் குறைந்தவர்கள் அல்ல.
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From: irir123
on 27th November 2010 10:55 AM
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Barring the exceptions of ROJA and GURU, IMHO, most of MR's attempts to appeal to a pan-Indian audience fell flat - having said that, I would rate MR's "IRUVAR" his best effort yet on par with "NAYAGAN" - both ARR and IR did more than ample justice to both the film(s) respectively.
MR, instead of working on his strengths, failed miserably trying some damp squibs - especially, MUMBAI and DIL SE were pathetic - I could not bear watching a paunchy Aravind Swamy play a journalist running around Mumbai in speck and span Lotto shoes and SRK playing a journalist in Dil SE - casting and script combinedly let MR down - there was nothing even remotely of aesthetic value, barring ARR's music and of course, the breathtaking cinematography (DIL SE).
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 10:58 AM
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Dil Se I find to be his best hindi film to-date.
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 11:08 AM
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ஆஹா....எங்கயோ ஆரம்பிச்சு எங்கயோ போவுது.
ஆக மொத்தம் arvindmano தவிற யாரும் படம் பார்க்கலை.
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
ஆஹா....எங்கயோ ஆரம்பிச்சு எங்கயோ போவுது.
Jai oda velai
ஆக மொத்தம் arvindmano தவிற யாரும் படம் பார்க்கலை.
Oh appadiya. Will look over that digressive post.
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 11:11 AM
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BUMP

Originally Posted by
AravindMano
Free! Free! Spoiler Free!
Mysskin confirms and conforms to his style - a truely and entirely visual style - love for images, views, observations, prolonged slo-mos.... But I feel it's still consistent. Largely it's enjoyable. At times you refuse to believe it's silly.
With respective to narrative - quite a few eye-brow raising decisions. Could hear the audience panting and gasping and all that.
He gets the spirit of a road film (as I have understood it) quite easily, but one cannot help wonder why it has to be strictly poignant & poignant only. After a while, it's almost like, அடுத்த டச் என்னன்னு பாத்தீங்கனாக்க..
His acting didn't work much for me, but his humour - both the actor and director's - is on the mark. Could see audience connecting really well. Rohini is barely there. The way Mysskin paints the first picture and impression of her
And Nasser - in what could possibly be the shortest cameo ever by a popular actor!
It would be really interesting to see the reaction to this film. Imagine the very first scene being a slo-mo pulled along for more than two minutes. I almost thought I will be ready to stop the dude sitting next to me from running away.
Was nodding all along at the references to Kikujiro. A particular idea in the original film which I thought would be 'indianized' remained unaltered and Mysskin hands over the baton to Raja in that particular scene. I liked that decision very much.
And it's sad to see people still texting 'Hey! Mysskin lifted from a japanese..'. And when the censor board certificate was put up, a guy shouted 'Kikujiro' and made sure we don't forget it.
2 hours 47 minutes nu sonnAnga, 2 hours 30 minutes dhAn kAmichAinga. PVR-A editor-A nu theriyalai.
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From: AravindMano
on 27th November 2010 11:11 AM
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நானும் நேத்துலேர்ந்து இங்க வந்து வந்து போய்க்கினு இருக்கேன். ம்ஹூம்.
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 11:14 AM
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என் பேர் ரெண்டொரு தடவை அடிபட்டதால கருத்து சொல்ல கடமைப்படுகிறேன்.
BGM பொருத்தவரைக்கும் எனக்கு விவாதிக்கிற அளவு ஆர்வம் கூட இல்லை. ஒரு மிகச்சிறப்பான படத்துல, ஒரு சில இடங்கள்ல கட்டக்கடசீயா நான் அவதானிக்கிற ஒரு நுட்பம். அவ்வளவு தான்.
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 11:17 AM
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நந்தலாலா.. இன்னொரு விமர்சனம்..
'நந்தலாலா' வெளிவருவதற்கு ஒரு மாதம் முன்பாக ஒரு கூட்டத்தில் மிஸ்கின் பேசினார். "நான் முதலில் எடுத்த இரண்டு படங்களும் படமே அல்ல. நந்தலாலாதான் முதல் படம்". என்ன ஒரு ஆணவமான பேச்சு? இவரென்ன அவ்வளவு பெரிய டபாடக்கரா என்று நினைத்தேன். ஜெயமோகன் ஒரு படி மேலே போய் 'தமிழின் முதல் படம்' என்கிற அளவுக்கு சொல்கிறார். படம் பார்க்கும்போது தெளிவாக தெரிகிறது. இருவரின் கூற்றும் 100 சதவிகிதம் உண்மை.
நானும் நந்தலாலாவை பார்த்துவிட்டு இப்படி சொல்லிடபோகிறேனோ என கொஞ்சம் பயமா இருக்கு.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 27th November 2010 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
என் பேர் ரெண்டொரு தடவை அடிபட்டதால கருத்து சொல்ல கடமைப்படுகிறேன்.
BGM பொருத்தவரைக்கும் எனக்கு விவாதிக்கிற அளவு ஆர்வம் கூட இல்லை. ஒரு மிகச்சிறப்பான படத்துல, ஒரு சில இடங்கள்ல கட்டக்கடசீயா நான் அவதானிக்கிற ஒரு நுட்பம். அவ்வளவு தான்.
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
ella vishayathayum dialoguela convey panna mudiyuma?.. or ella samayathulayum oruthan pesa mudiyuma? ella moodayum camera capture panna mudiyuma? .. ok...BGM illama padam edukka mudiyum..camera illama padam edukka mudiyadhu..
but its like saying ingredient like salt is the last important ingredient to be considered in a food...ok..food thayarikalam..but impact? whatever supports majorly for impact is a major ingredient..
actually I thought Equa was saying the same..but he was very much with BGM, but thaniyana mudhal maruvadhi kudukka vendamgraar avlothaan.
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
பாரதி படம் பார்த்து விட்டு நீங்கள் என்ன நினைத்தீர்கள்? சவ ஊர்வலத்திற்கும் ஒரு மெட்டமைத்து, "நல்லதோர் வீணை செய்தேன்!" என அவரின் கவிதையை பாடி பார்ப்போரின் சோக உணர்வினைத் தூண்டுவது தூக்க மாத்திரை கொடுத்து தூங்க வைப்பதுபோன்ற உணர்வினை எனக்குத் தந்தது. ஒரு உலகப்புகழ் பெற்ற கவிஞரைப் பற்றிய ஒரு டாகுமெண்டரி படம்.. இதற்கு பாடல் மெட்டமைப்பு தேவையில்லை என்பது என் கருத்து. சொற்கள் மட்டுமே அங்கு விளையாட வேண்டும். சந்தம் அல்ல. சந்தம் ஒரு வித அலங்கார பூச்சு "பாரதி" படத்திற்கு. "ஆகா! நிற்பதுவே நடப்பதுவே பாடலுக்கு எப்படியெல்லாம் இசை அமைத்திருக்கிறார் பாரு ராஜா!" என்ற எண்ண ஓட்டம் எங்கெல்லாம் தலையெடுக்கிறதோ அங்கெல்லாம் அந்தப் படைப்பின் சாரம் செத்துப்போய் விடுகிறது!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 27th November 2010 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
P_R
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
பாரதி படம் பார்த்து விட்டு நீங்கள் என்ன நினைத்தீர்கள்? சவ ஊர்வலத்திற்கும் ஒரு மெட்டமைத்து, "நல்லதோர் வீணை செய்தேன்!" என அவரின் கவிதையை பாடி பார்ப்போரின் சோக உணர்வினைத் தூண்டுவது தூக்கு மாத்திரை கொடுத்து தூங்க வைப்பதுபோன்ற உணர்வினை எனக்குத் தந்தது. ஒரு உலகப்புகழ் பெற்ற கவிஞரைப் பற்றிய ஒரு டாகுமெண்டரி படம்.. இதற்கு பாடல் மெட்டமைப்பு தேவையில்லை என்பது என் கருத்து. சொற்கள் மட்டுமே அங்கு விளையாட வேண்டும். சந்தம் அல்ல. சந்தம் ஒரு வித அலங்கார பூச்சு "பாரதி" படத்திற்கு. "ஆகா! நிற்பதுவே நடப்பதுவே பாடலுக்கு எப்படியெல்லாம் இசை அமைத்திருக்கிறார் பாரு ராஜா!" என்ற எண்ண ஓட்டம் எங்கெல்லாம் தலையெடுக்கிறதோ அங்கெல்லாம் அந்தப்
படைப்பின் சாரம் செத்துப்போய் விடுகிறது!
andha padaippin saaram ennannu solla mudiyuma?
"nirpathuve nadapathuve" - song picturization has bharathi singing at the creations of the world ... asking them if they are true or just an illussion...nicely picturised and captured the mindset of bharathi.
Why cant a song convey a thing?...if it not related to the movie - I understand. But if the song and picturization conveys exactly what the crator needs to convery...whts the problem?
who are we to decide the framework through which the artist has to convey his thought..freeyaa canvasla avan epdi vena convey panlam...vandhu serra impact thaan mukkiyam.
regarding "thooka maathirai" - cinema itself is a big thooka maathirai...adhula rendu maathirai sertha enna?
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From: venkkiram
on 27th November 2010 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
P_R
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
பாரதி படம் பார்த்து விட்டு நீங்கள் என்ன நினைத்தீர்கள்? சவ ஊர்வலத்திற்கும் ஒரு மெட்டமைத்து, "நல்லதோர் வீணை செய்தேன்!" என அவரின் கவிதையை பாடி பார்ப்போரின் சோக உணர்வினைத் தூண்டுவது தூக்கு மாத்திரை கொடுத்து தூங்க வைப்பதுபோன்ற உணர்வினை எனக்குத் தந்தது. ஒரு உலகப்புகழ் பெற்ற கவிஞரைப் பற்றிய ஒரு டாகுமெண்டரி படம்.. இதற்கு பாடல் மெட்டமைப்பு தேவையில்லை என்பது என் கருத்து. சொற்கள் மட்டுமே அங்கு விளையாட வேண்டும். சந்தம் அல்ல. சந்தம் ஒரு வித அலங்கார பூச்சு "பாரதி" படத்திற்கு. "ஆகா! நிற்பதுவே நடப்பதுவே பாடலுக்கு எப்படியெல்லாம் இசை அமைத்திருக்கிறார் பாரு ராஜா!" என்ற எண்ண ஓட்டம் எங்கெல்லாம் தலையெடுக்கிறதோ அங்கெல்லாம் அந்தப்
படைப்பின் சாரம் செத்துப்போய் விடுகிறது!
andha padaippin saaram ennannu solla mudiyuma?
"nirpathuve nadapathuve" - song picturization has bharathi singing at the creations of the world ... asking them if they are true or just an illussion...nicely picturised and captured the mindset of bharathi.
Why cant a song convey a thing?...if it acts against a thing - I understand. But if the song and picturization conveys exactly what the crator needs to convery...whts the problem?
who are we to decide the framework through which the artist has to convey his thought..freeyaa canvasla avan epdi vena convey panlam...
பாரதியின் படம் என வரும் போது, அது பாரதியின் வரிகளையே முன்னெடுத்து செல்லவேண்டும், கேட்போருக்கு அதையே முதன்மையாக கொண்டு செல்லவேண்டும். எப்போதெல்லாம் அதை மறந்து, இசையை மட்டும் புகழ்கிறோமோ அங்கெல்லாம் சாரம் போய்விடுகிறது என்பதே என் பார்வை. இப்போ நீங்க Hubலேயே பாருங்கள் பாரதி படப்பாடல்களை கோடிட்டு காட்டுபவர்களை.. அவர்கள் பெரும்பாலும் லயிப்பது இசையில் மட்டுமே. வரிகளை சிலாகித்த்து எழுதுபவர் நூற்றுக்கு ஒருவர் இருவர் தான்.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 27th November 2010 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
பாரதியின் படம் என வரும் போது, அது பாரதியின் வரிகளையே முன்னெடுத்து செல்லவேண்டும், கேட்போருக்கு அதையே முதன்மையாக கொண்டு செல்லவேண்டும். எப்போதெல்லாம் அதை மறந்து, இசையை மட்டும் புகழ்கிறோமோ அங்கெல்லாம் சாரம் போய்விடுகிறது என்பதே என் பார்வை. இப்போ நீங்க Hubலேயே பாருங்கள் பாரதி படப்பாடல்களை கோடிட்டு காட்டுபவர்களை.. அவர்கள் பெரும்பாலும் லயிப்பது இசையில் மட்டுமே. வரிகளை சிலாகித்த்து எழுதுபவர் நூற்றுக்கு ஒருவர் இருவர் தான்.
By using what format you expect the bharathiyar poems to be conveyed in movie?...dialogue?..I dont think a 2:30 hour movie is made to convey the poetry prowess of Bharathi. First of all its not possible.
Its a movie made on bharathi's life and his charecter.
Even for taking Bharathi's poems to the masses through a movie - I dont think there is any other medium other than songs.
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From: equanimus
on 27th November 2010 11:57 AM
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P_R
Actually I wasn't trying to launch a general discussion.
Yeah, I know, PR! இதை நான் தான் ஆரம்பிச்சேன். I've seen you wrestle with this in the past, so just thought I'd put my two cents in for a bit. நானும் ரெண்டொரு post 'ஓட முடிஞ்சுடும்னு நெனச்சேன்.
மக்களே, please pardon the digression. இந்த posts 'ஐ எல்லாம் அப்படியே அலேக்கா தூக்கி வேற எங்கயாவது போட்டுட முடியாது? இல்லைன்னா, Plum, நீங்க ஏன் இதை முன்னின்னு நடத்தி ஒரு nee thread ஆரம்பிக்கக் கூடாது? Further discussions அங்க நடக்கலாமே.

Originally Posted by
P_R
I was surprised to read so many reviews mention BGM as much as they do here that's all.

Originally Posted by
P_R
I was merely looking for the revee of someone (like me) for whom BGM is not such a big deal in the overall scheme of things.
இந்த topical கேள்விக்குப் பதிலோட தான் முதல் post 'ஐ முடிச்சிருந்தேன்.

Originally Posted by
equanimus
Having said that, one reason why music is perhaps more important to this film than others is that this film is said to be a near-silent film in many places.
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 12:03 PM
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வெங்கிராம், கவிதைகள் 'வாசிக்கப்படவேண்டியவை' என்றாலும் வாசிக்கும் விதம் மாறுமல்லவா (வைரமுத்து, திரிசா). அதனால் அங்கும் 'குரல்/தொனி/ஏற்றஇரக்கம்' இவற்றுடன் தான் சொற்கள் முன்வைக்கப்படுகின்றன.
அதனால் நீங்கள் சொல்வது 'மெட்டிலாமல் இருத்தல்' தான் கவிதையை முன்வைப்பது என்று அர்த்தப்படுத்திக் கொள்கிறேன்.
மெட்டில் இசைப்பதை ஆட்சேபிப்பதை பாரதியே ஆட்சேபிப்பார். பாரதியே தனது பாடல்களை மெட்டமைத்துத் தான் பாடினார்!
அக்காலத்தில் அச்சு இயந்திரம் போல வானொலியும் பரவலாக இருந்திருந்தால் அவரது ஆளுமையே வேறு விதமாக உள்வாங்கப் பட்டிருக்கலாம் !
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
ella vishayathayum dialoguela convey panna mudiyuma?.. or ella samayathulayum oruthan pesa mudiyuma? ella moodayum camera capture panna mudiyuma?
முடியாது முடியாது முடியாது.
சந்துரு to Subbiah/Ais: அதுக்காக...அதுக்காக..

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
.. ok...BGM illama padam edukka mudiyum..camera illama padam edukka mudiyadhu..
As equa mentioned in one of his earlier posts, this உருவினா கவுந்துக்குமா is perhaps not the appropriate framework for discussion.

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
but its like saying ingredient like salt is the last important ingredient to be considered in a food...ok..food thayarikalam..but impact? whatever supports majorly for impact is a major ingredient..
Okay. Just that, எனக்கு பின்னிசை உப்பு இல்லை.கொத்தமல்லி.
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From: hamid
on 27th November 2010 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
ஆக மொத்தம் arvindmano தவிற யாரும் படம் பார்க்கலை.

nethu raavoda raava 4 per padam paarthirukkainga.. aana payapulla ethuvum vaaya thorakka maatenguthu
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 02:28 PM
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http://twitter.com/#!/search/nandhalala
Unanimously awesome reviews !!
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From: Sanjeevi
on 27th November 2010 02:36 PM
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From: rangan_08
on 27th November 2010 05:43 PM
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Saw the film today.
Ennathan Mysskin sathaichalum, Kitano is there, staring at you....
Kurosawa-voda sishya pullannu sollikiradhala, Mysskin does a Miffune most of the time.
Some of the scenes are good and deliberately made to create an impact, like the pookara kizhavi scene in Anjathey.
There's no proper history for the kid, how he gets money, how he manages the family (consisting of only his blind paati !!) etc.,
Finally, when Mysskin goes to his village, you could find nobody there except for these characters...spaghetti western-la varra pudhusa vellai adicha veedugaloda, moththa gramamey "jilo"nu irukku !!! Kadaisila Mysskin balloon vikkiraru....
Inspite of the over-hyped credits, Ilayaraja's magic is missing !
Mahesh Muthuswamy's work is outstanding.
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From: gurusaravanan
on 27th November 2010 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
search in fb too... So manyyy positive reviews... Sem mundichathum parthidanum
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From: irir123
on 27th November 2010 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
என் பேர் ரெண்டொரு தடவை அடிபட்டதால கருத்து சொல்ல கடமைப்படுகிறேன்.
BGM பொருத்தவரைக்கும் எனக்கு விவாதிக்கிற அளவு ஆர்வம் கூட இல்லை. ஒரு மிகச்சிறப்பான படத்துல, ஒரு சில இடங்கள்ல கட்டக்கடசீயா நான் அவதானிக்கிற ஒரு நுட்பம். அவ்வளவு தான்.
Viv,நிச்சயமா - ஒரு மாசம் குதிச்சு practice பண்ணினாலும் - it will never become even remotely equivalent to dialogue, for me.
P_R : when I watch a film like VIRUMANDI, I dont care much about the BGM in the sense that, (i) my utter confidence in both Kamal and IR as a team together as well as individual performers is such that, i know my confidence in the outcome will not go down the drain, no matter what, (ii) VIRUMANDI's script and the way it is told/shot is gripping, that with or without the BGM, the film would have still made its impact - the BGM only enhanced the effect - therein lies the genius of IR as well as Kamal!
it is only when it comes to lesser scripts that focus too much on visuals and the director himself demands/makes special requests to the composer, or even without that, when the director is incapable of handling scenes/scripts/narration WITHOUT the aid of the BGM that IR steps in to fill the void
can anyone imagine watching a "Geethanjali/Idhayathai thirudaadhey" without IR's music at all ??
end digression
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From: raajarasigan
on 27th November 2010 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
hamid

Originally Posted by
P_R
ஆக மொத்தம் arvindmano தவிற யாரும் படம் பார்க்கலை.

nethu raavoda raava 4 per padam paarthirukkainga.. aana payapulla ethuvum vaaya thorakka maatenguthu

konjam late aagidichu... (satya already posted in IR section).. watched this yesterday with Hamid, Thiru & Satya..
Nandalala starts slowly (in fact, very slowly as the first shot itself goes for around 2 minutes without moving the camera / background score). The first 40 min will be really a testimony of your patience.. I have to admit that I am NOT used to this kind of melodramatic road movies.. so it took me some time to get into the story. The movie picks up from the song Onnukonnu where Myskin did full justice with his picturization . From there on, it is a real treat to watch. There is NO doubt that IR lifted this movie to a different level with his score. I am very much impressed with the way he used the silence in the BGM

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More than IR's score, I was stunned with the visuals. Athum camerava ovvoru muraiyum pinna pogumbothu, you can expect a surprise. It was there in almost each and every scene. The first scene where Myskin was almost running towards us only to speak from a small hole "***** adichittu vandhurava"..
climax was very smooth and no cinematic (actually, I did NOT understand it well initially

)
Performances are adequate to the movie.
Warning:
1. stay away from this movie if you can't watch off beat themes
2. better to book a odd time show. I was irked with the counter comments in the theater as audience were restless.
I hope I can watch this movie again...
Nandalala - A visual treat
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From: Plum
on 27th November 2010 07:29 PM
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Rangan, neraiya pEru vayithula pAlai vArthirukkInga.
****Typical hub "sarcastic" post alert*****
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 27th November 2010 07:51 PM
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http://cablesankar.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_7398.html
படத்தை பற்றிய ஒரு குற்றச்சாட்டு இது ஒரு ஜப்பானிய படமான கிகிஜிரோவின் காப்பி என்று, கிகிஜிரோவின் கான்செப்ட்தான் ஆனால் காப்பியில்லை. அதைஉள்வாங்கி மிஷ்கின் தந்திருக்கும் வர்ஷன் வேறு. சரி விடுங்க அப்படித்தான் என்று சொல்பவர்களுக்கு கிகிஜிரோ தராத ஒரு உணர்வை இப்படம் எனக்கு தந்திருக்கும் பட்சத்தில் இப்படம் நிச்சயம் நல்ல படமே. படத்தை பற்றி யோசிக்கையில் இன்னும் நிறைய சொல்லிக் கொண்டே போகலாம் ஆனால் படம் பார்பவர்களுக்கு கிடைக்க வேண்டிய இம்பாக்ட படித்துவிட்டு பார்த்தால் கிடைக்காது என்பதால் சொல்லவில்லை.
ஐங்கரன் சுடச் சுட வெளியிட்ட படமெல்லாம் வந்த சூட்டிலேயே பெட்டிக்குள் போய் விட, வெளியிட முடியாமல் இழுத்தடித்த படமெல்லாம் நின்று விளையாடுகிற காலம் போலருக்கு.. பேராண்மை, அங்காடித்தெரு, இப்போது நந்தலாலா அதில் ஒன்று.. 150 கோடி செலவில் எந்திரனை தயாரிக்க முடியவில்லையே என்று ஐங்கரன் வருத்தப் பட தேவையில்லை.. அதை விட 150 முறை சிறந்த படத்தை வழங்கியதற்காக காலமெல்லாம் பெருமைப் பட்டுக் கொள்ளலாம்.
நந்தலாலா – வாழ்க்கையின் பயணம் A MUST SEE FILM
கேபிள் சங்கர்
டிஸ்கி: ஒரே நாளில் இரண்டாவது முறையாய் படத்தை பார்த்துவிட்டு வருகிறேன். பாதிப்பு
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 27th November 2010 08:01 PM
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From: Nerd
on 27th November 2010 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
http://twitter.com/#!/search/nandhalala
Unanimously awesome reviews !!

From one of those tweets:
Mysskin interviews Raaja about 'Nandhalala' music. Now showing on Isaiaruvi
Is this for true? Any links?
EDIT: Found it -
http://tamil.techsatish.net/file/illayaraja-3/
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 08:53 PM
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ennappaa ithu.. Ilayaraaja kooda english romba use panraaru

intha show directors ellaam force panraaingala??
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
ennappaa ithu.. Ilayaraaja kooda english romba use panraaru

intha show directors ellaam force panraaingala??
English thaan namba nEsAnAl langeej-nu KH'E sollitaaru ba!
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
Anban
ennappaa ithu.. Ilayaraaja kooda english romba use panraaru

intha show directors ellaam force panraaingala??
English thaan namba nEsAnAl langeej-nu KH'E sollitaaru ba!
athu mathavangaloda pesarapothu.. inge artificial-la irukku.. romba nerudalaa irukkubaa..
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 09:21 PM
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நந்தலாலா அஞ்செழுத்து - இளையராஜா அஞ்செழுத்து
Right vidu !
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 09:23 PM
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Periya idathu mApiLLai
Jayaram stumbles wearing cooling glass
GM: kaNNu theriyudhulla
Jayaram nods
GM: (shows fingers one on hand) idhu evvaLavu
Jayaram: aaRu
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From: Roshan
on 27th November 2010 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா அஞ்செழுத்து - இளையராஜா அஞ்செழுத்து
Right vidu !
avarE sonnaarA ?
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 09:25 PM
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Michael Nyman came down to Chennai just to meet Ilaiyaraja ! #Isaiaruvi #NandhalalaSpecial #Mysskin
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா அஞ்செழுத்து - இளையராஜா அஞ்செழுத்து
Right vidu !
that was an attempt at giving 'musical logic' to Mysskin writing down Ilayaraja below Nandhalala.. Seems to be very weird.. but his mind thinks like that..
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா அஞ்செழுத்து - இளையராஜா அஞ்செழுத்து
Right vidu !
And (avarukku oru aesthetic sense irukkavE) rhyming-A varudhu.. :P
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From: P_R
on 27th November 2010 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
it is only when it comes to lesser scripts that focus too much on visuals and the director himself demands/makes special requests to the composer, or even without that, when the director is incapable of handling scenes/scripts/narration WITHOUT the aid of the BGM that IR steps in to fill the void
I understand many ppl feel that way. Just that I have nearly never. That's all.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 27th November 2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
also

to Myskin for not using cooler sometimes
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From: Plum
on 27th November 2010 09:34 PM
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Let me add fuel to fire. Can people who are typing in tamil please type in English so i can read it?
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From: Nerd
on 27th November 2010 10:44 PM
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Mysskin (the scene they show which happens in the mental asyulum) doing a Kuruvi is highly annoying. Is he talking like that in the whole film?
And according to Mysskin, Raja did what a writer-director can't do in that interval block. So meesic is as important as dialogues/writing. Actually only writing, no BGM folks can settle for a stage play or better yet, a book. Cinema is made primarily to please our aural and visual senses. Of course bad writing makes a film unwatchable, but dismissing BGM, pleasing visuals as just add-ons is not the way to go. So, a Virumaandi minus Raja sir would have been a lesser film, IMO.
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 27th November 2010 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
Anban
http://twitter.com/#!/search/nandhalala
Unanimously awesome reviews !!

From one of those tweets:
Mysskin interviews Raaja about 'Nandhalala' music. Now showing on Isaiaruvi
Is this for true? Any links?
EDIT: Found it -
http://tamil.techsatish.net/file/illayaraja-3/
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 27th November 2010 10:49 PM
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Mysskin about Thaaimai and Raaja - for Raajasaranam
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Mysskin (the scene they show which happens in the mental asyulum) doing a Kuruvi is highly annoying. Is he talking like that in the whole film?
And according to Mysskin, Raja did what a writer-director can't do in that interval block. So meesic is as important as dialogues/writing. Actually only writing, no BGM folks can settle for a stage play or better yet, a book. Cinema is made primarily to please our aural and visual senses. Of course bad writing makes a film unwatchable, but dismissing BGM, pleasing visuals as just add-ons is not the way to go. So, a Virumaandi minus Raja sir would have been a lesser film, IMO.
yes.. it was annoying at first.. cudnt comprehend the dialogue also.. but seeing the scenes shown.. Camera angles are too awesome as they were in Anjaathey..
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 27th November 2010 10:52 PM
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Daakter Aravind's twitter review exactly reflects my expectation/view/prejudice
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From: kid-glove
on 27th November 2010 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bala (Karthik)
Daakter Aravind's twitter review exactly reflects my expectation/view/prejudice
Welcome to the club.
What's your twitter id?
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From: Anban
on 27th November 2010 11:10 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDPTqK8vssc&NR=1
honest interview... accepts the inspirations..
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 27th November 2010 11:10 PM
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Kid,
Neenga hub la solli thaan Aravind Doc ne theriyum. Saw his reviews here and Karthi posted his twitter message links...
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From: AravindMano
on 27th November 2010 11:41 PM
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B(K) - eppO pAkka pOReenga? pAththadhum sollunga. I am a bit surprised by all these reactions.
nAn doctor illeenga. pOlees geelees vandhu pidichuRap pORaanga.[thowing a glance at kuzhaindhagaL doctor]
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 27th November 2010 11:47 PM
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ok ok
Inga release pannirukkaangala/pannuvaangala nu therila....
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From: varunlss12
on 27th November 2010 11:49 PM
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padam nalla eruka ellaya?
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From: Sanjeevi
on 27th November 2010 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
varunlss12
padam nalla eruka ellaya?
theatrela pakkathu seatla padam aarambichu 20 nimits kazhichu vanthu oruthar pakkathula ullavan kitta kathai kekkura maathiri irukku
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From: Mahen
on 28th November 2010 12:09 AM
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Going for a midnight show was a mistake

I slept off in many scenes..No, not that the movie was boring, it was me..was too tired..remba activities today and lack of sleep

..I cant comment overall about the movie..but from what i observed, cinematography and music

...not much of annoying slo-mo shots

but i had problems understanding myskin's dialogues...

enna pesurarunu puriyale in some scenes
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From: ajithfederer
on 28th November 2010 01:52 AM
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Cha inga release aagala.
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From: jaiganes
on 28th November 2010 03:24 AM
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@Nerd..
Thanks for posting the link..
We have to open a thread for discussing what Raaja feels as the role of music in movies. Wonderful..
The initial phases of the interview sucked somewhat, but once Mysskin started asking the right questions, Raaja opened up and for a brief while one could feel what the Master is all about. And the oboe pieces heard in the clippings are a treasure.
One more small observation.. the music complements the movement of the character and camera wonderfully, particularly the "white wall" scene.. as the camera does a door to door over whitewall, one thinks that it is the Boy's POV, just when we catch the boy walking ahead, it is a red herring, a surprise! - very interesting.. I wonder what is the payoff in the full movie for such a shot composition, but I felt the music was progressing along the walls and puctuated by varying notes for the doors and when the POV changes, the music changed its pattern - Very tightly intermeshed with the camera - Awesome.
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From: Anban
on 28th November 2010 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
@Nerd..
Thanks for posting the link..
We have to open a thread for discussing what Raaja feels as the role of music in movies. Wonderful..
The initial phases of the interview sucked somewhat, but once Mysskin started asking the right questions, Raaja opened up and for a brief while one could feel what the Master is all about. And the oboe pieces heard in the clippings are a treasure.
One more small observation.. the music complements the movement of the character and camera wonderfully, particularly the "white wall" scene.. as the camera does a door to door over whitewall, one thinks that it is the Boy's POV, just when we catch the boy walking ahead, it is a red herring, a surprise! - very interesting.. I wonder what is the payoff in the full movie for such a shot composition, but I felt the music was progressing along the walls and puctuated by varying notes for the doors and when the POV changes, the music changed its pattern - Very tightly intermeshed with the camera - Awesome.
there is another shot where the camera travels behind a physically challenged guy moving ahead with the help of a stick..
Camera work is so poetic here.. Ammaava thedi odura payyodaveyy camera-vum oduthu..
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From: Anban
on 28th November 2010 03:56 AM
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Onnukkonnu song is more pleasing in the video.. Album-la irukkura version innum konjam 'loaded'-aa irukku..
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From: Anban
on 28th November 2010 04:00 AM
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aerial shot of the aattu manthai..

Anjaathey-la low angle-la vaanatha brammaandamaa kaamikkrathu nyaamagathukku varuthu.. simple but magnificent ..
the camera moves in sync with Mysskin and the kid when they push-start the moped and it stops when the moped starts moving leaving them behind.. "ennada.. namma help panninom, kaariyam aana vudaney vittutu poyittaangalenu feeling varuthu.." BGM/Music apart.. there is a lot of stuff in this movie.. even without such BGM, it will wud have been very very good..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl9b6...layer_embedded
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 28th November 2010 09:44 AM
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Anybody know bangalore release?!?
yesterday dinathanthi showed no signs
Swamigal arul eppo kittum ??
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From: venkkiram
on 28th November 2010 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
நந்தலாலா.. இன்னொரு விமர்சனம்..
'நந்தலாலா' வெளிவருவதற்கு ஒரு மாதம் முன்பாக ஒரு கூட்டத்தில் மிஸ்கின் பேசினார். "நான் முதலில் எடுத்த இரண்டு படங்களும் படமே அல்ல. நந்தலாலாதான் முதல் படம்". என்ன ஒரு ஆணவமான பேச்சு? இவரென்ன அவ்வளவு பெரிய டபாடக்கரா என்று நினைத்தேன். ஜெயமோகன் ஒரு படி மேலே போய் 'தமிழின் முதல் படம்' என்கிற அளவுக்கு சொல்கிறார். படம் பார்க்கும்போது தெளிவாக தெரிகிறது. இருவரின் கூற்றும் 100 சதவிகிதம் உண்மை.
நானும் நந்தலாலாவை பார்த்துவிட்டு இப்படி சொல்லிடபோகிறேனோ என கொஞ்சம் பயமா இருக்கு.
பார்த்தாகிவிட்டது. இரவு கடைசி ஆட்டம் பார்த்து வீட்டுக்கு வந்த உடனே இங்கு பதிவு செய்து கொண்டிருக்கிறேன்.
மிஷ்கின் மற்றும் ஜெயமோகன் சொன்னதை யுவகிருஷ்ணா வழிமொழிந்ததிலும் உண்மை இருக்கத்தான் செய்கிறது. ஆமாம். தமிழ் திரையுலகத்தில் நந்தலாலா ஒரு மைல்கல். தொடர்ச்சியை வரும் நாட்களில் பதிவு செய்கிறேன்.
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From: ajaybaskar
on 28th November 2010 10:47 AM
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Mahesh Muthuswami is a very promising cinematographer. Wonder why he works only with Mysskin..
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From: complicateur
on 28th November 2010 12:48 PM
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Stepped in because I felt my name was mentioned a few times. For the most part I agree that BGM is an analytical afterthought. But it doesnt necessarily have to stay that way.
MaththathellAm padam pArthuttu.
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From: VJerry
on 28th November 2010 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Anybody know bangalore release?!?
yesterday dinathanthi showed no signs
Swamigal arul eppo kittum ??
It is not released here. Went to Hosur.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 28th November 2010 03:15 PM
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I think, It is a rare combination, Emotional + Brilliant. But Nandalala is. Wonderful film with awesome music. :Negizhchi: Tears in both eyes and @ both climax (first half end and film end). Hats off to Myskin, Ilayaraja and the team.
I felt like watching Bala movie at times but with entirely different tone and brilliant visual shots
IMO the best BGM score in recent years from Raaja as well as from India. Myskin definitely a good actor too
Best movie of the year
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From: A.ANAND
on 28th November 2010 03:37 PM
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Mysskin goes to Mookambi!
2010-11-28 12:48:20
Director Mysskin, after the press screening of his Nandalala had issued a statement "I would like to thank you for your support for my upcoming film Nandalala. My previous films Chithiram Pesuthadi and Anjaathey would not have been a great success without your strong support. I am deeply indebted to you all. I am out of town for the next two days Nov 25 and 26".
What was Mysskin doing on the release day (Nov 26) of his Nandalala, a film which he says is closest to his heart?
A little bird has informed us that Mysskin was praying at the famous Kollur Mookambika temple near Udupi.
Mysskin's prayers seem to have been answered as the film has received a lot of critical acclaim.
Leading Tamil writers has done a seminar on a music channel praising the film and
calling it a trendsetter.
A Popular English daily has given it four and a half stars, the highest the daily has given for any Tamil film!

aanatha kannir!
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From: Anban
on 28th November 2010 06:16 PM
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oh trendsetter-nu sollrathu intha padathukku over-aa?
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 28th November 2010 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
I think, It is a rare combination, Emotional + Brilliant. But Nandalala is. Wonderful film with awesome music. :Negizhchi: Tears in both eyes and @ both climax (first half end and film end). Hats off to Myskin, Ilayaraja and the team.
I felt like watching Bala movie at times but with entirely different tone and brilliant visual shots
IMO the best BGM score in recent years from Raaja as well as from India. Myskin definitely a good actor too
Best movie of the year

In terms of visualling establishing a scene , i feel myskin has gone s tep aheas !
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From: Sanjeevi
on 28th November 2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki

Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
I think, It is a rare combination, Emotional + Brilliant. But Nandalala is. Wonderful film with awesome music. :Negizhchi: Tears in both eyes and @ both climax (first half end and film end). Hats off to Myskin, Ilayaraja and the team.
I felt like watching Bala movie at times but with entirely different tone and brilliant visual shots
IMO the best BGM score in recent years from Raaja as well as from India. Myskin definitely a good actor too
Best movie of the year

In terms of visualling establishing a scene , i feel myskin has gone s tep aheas !
yes, I would not say the visuals are pure realistic, its a mix of realistic + artistic (instead of 'masala'thanam). அழகியல்?
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From: venkkiram
on 28th November 2010 09:30 PM
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மிஷ்கினும் அந்த சிறுவனும் படத்தில் முதல் முதலாக கூடும் இடம்..கோயில்.. கோபுரத்தில் இருக்கும் சிலையொன்றில் பட்டம் கிழிந்து தொங்கிக்கொண்டிருக்கும் ஒரே காட்சி போதும். அப்படியே Flat ஆகிட்டேன். மிஷ்கினும் மகேஷ் முத்துசுவாமியும் விஷுவல்களில் ஒரு காப்பியமே படைத்திருக்கிறார்கள். (இதோடு சரி.. மற்றவர்கள் படம் பார்க்கும் வரை இன்னும் இரண்டு மூன்று வாரத்திற்கு படத்தைப் பற்றி விமர்சிக்கப் போவதில்லை.. அப்புறம் காண்போருக்கு சுவாரஸ்யம் இல்லாமல் போய்விடும்...)
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 28th November 2010 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Anybody know bangalore release?!?
yesterday dinathanthi showed no signs
Swamigal arul eppo kittum ??
It is not released here. Went to Hosur.

entha theatre? Mainroadla onnu irukku, athuvaa?? Theatre eppadi?? Family audience ok?
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From: VJerry
on 28th November 2010 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Anybody know bangalore release?!?
yesterday dinathanthi showed no signs
Swamigal arul eppo kittum ??
It is not released here. Went to Hosur.

entha theatre? Mainroadla onnu irukku, athuvaa?
? Theatre eppadi?? Family audience ok?
No. Lakshmi devi, It was in the Royakottai road. Even there were few family audiences when we went. Ok for family audiences.
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From: VJerry
on 28th November 2010 09:57 PM
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I din't like this movie. Even 2 others friends with me also din't like the movie. Seems none of the ppl in the theatre liked it. All were commenting on their own.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 28th November 2010 10:06 PM
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VJerry, thanks!
how about audio quality??
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From: VJerry
on 28th November 2010 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
VJerry, thanks!
how about audio quality??
It is Ok. It is a normal theater. Ok to watch there. Since the movie doesn't relese here, we don't have any other option. Theatre was not bad. Go for evening show, if your are going with family.
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From: rprakash
on 28th November 2010 10:33 PM
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From: venkkiram
on 29th November 2010 08:11 AM
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தாய்மடித் தேடிய அற்புத மனிதனின் காவியப் பயணம் - சாருநிவேதா
இதுவரை சொல்லப்படாத உடல்களற்ற ஒரு காதல் கதை - மனுஷ்யபுத்திரன்
இளையராஜாவின் உலகத்தரமான இசையால் எழுதப்பட்ட நெடுங்கவிதை - எஸ்.ராமகிருஷ்ணன்
நீண்ட நாட்கள் மனதில் நிழலாடும் படம் - பிரபஞ்சன்
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
இளையராஜாவின் உலகத்தரமான இசையால் எழுதப்பட்ட நெடுங்கவிதை - எஸ்.ராமகிருஷ்ணன்
சிரிப்புத்தான் வருது.
யாருங்க இப்படியெல்லாம் தர நிர்ணயம் செய்யறது?
அந்த ராமகிருஷ்ணர் கொஞ்சம் விளக்கினால் தேவலை
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From: venkkiram
on 29th November 2010 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
venkkiram
இளையராஜாவின் உலகத்தரமான இசையால் எழுதப்பட்ட நெடுங்கவிதை - எஸ்.ராமகிருஷ்ணன்
சிரிப்புத்தான் வருது.
யாருங்க இப்படியெல்லாம் தர நிர்ணயம் செய்யறது?
அந்த ராமகிருஷ்ணர் கொஞ்சம் விளக்கினால் தேவலை

உங்களுக்கு திருக்குறள் உலகப்பொதுமறை எனப் புகழப்படுவதை படித்தபோது சிரிப்பு வந்ததா?
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From: VJerry
on 29th November 2010 11:37 AM
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How many of you din't like the movie?
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 12:58 PM
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ulaaththaram is a vague concept. I agree with app. adhu ennayyA ulagaththaram?
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 01:03 PM
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World class - ulagaththaram - might be vague but a valid parameter in sports, art, etc..
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 01:04 PM
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But before you ask, I don't aspire to have a proper definition..
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
World class - ulagaththaram - might be vague but a valid parameter in sports, art, etc..
And ulagaththaram in art includes things such as 'international appeal'
And nammalu
Oboe use panni irukkaru
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 29th November 2010 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi

Originally Posted by
Nerd
also

to Myskin for not using cooler sometimes
In fact he looks better without Coolers... dunno why he uses coolers even when no reqd..
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan
In fact he looks better without Coolers... dunno why he uses coolers even when no reqd..
peter
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan
In fact he looks better without Coolers... dunno why he uses coolers even when no reqd..
peter
cant be ruled out.. but may be something to do with his eye also.. indoors-la kooad athigam use panraaru..
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From: 19thmay
on 29th November 2010 02:43 PM
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Balu Mahendra kooda appadi thaane?
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 02:47 PM
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From: P_R
on 29th November 2010 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan
In fact he looks better without Coolers... dunno why he uses coolers even when no reqd..
peter
cant be ruled out...

MRI examine paNRa doctor maadhiri solreenga
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan
In fact he looks better without Coolers... dunno why he uses coolers even when no reqd..
peter
cant be ruled out...

MRI examine paNRa doctor maadhiri solreenga
aaamaam.. Mysskin-Ilayaraja interview-la peter irunthuchu.. thats why..
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 29th November 2010 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Avarum peter
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Avarum peter
good, GVM has great company now
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From: Thirumaran
on 29th November 2010 05:04 PM
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btw BaluMahendra wears a Cap too. .He should be the head of all peters
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 29th November 2010 05:08 PM
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Cap vecchavan ellaam Captain-aah?
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From: Thirumaran
on 29th November 2010 05:08 PM
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SPOILERS
Saw the movie on Friday night show @ Mayajaal along with raajarasigan, hamid and Sathya. Ticket money was sponsored by raajarasigan.
SPOILERS END
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
SPOILERS
Saw the movie on Friday night show @ Mayajaal along with raajarasigan, hamid and Sathya. Ticket money was sponsored by raajarasigan.
SPOILERS END
u have really given away the complete movie in one line
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 29th November 2010 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
SPOILERS
Saw the movie on Friday night show @ Mayajaal along with raajarasigan, hamid and Sathya. Ticket money was sponsored by raajarasigan.
SPOILERS END
Review eppo kuduppeenga Saar!!
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From: Thirumaran
on 29th November 2010 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
u have really given away the complete movie in one line

Athukku thaanae spoilers poattaen
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
உங்களுக்கு திருக்குறள் உலகப்பொதுமறை எனப் புகழப்படுவதை படித்தபோது சிரிப்பு வந்ததா?
Ofcourse, yes! It's confined to Thamizh people.
While I agree that it has certain principles that applies to any human in general (which is also found in every moral science book), for non-Thamizh people, there's nothing more except some curiosity, IMO!
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 06:44 PM
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~ dig - உலகத்தரம்
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஒட்டாது
நாம் என்று சொன்னால் உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
- local standard (tamizh standard)
நன்றி மறப்பது நன்றன்று நன்றல்லது
அன்றே மறப்பது நன்று
- global standard (applicable to all)
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 06:59 PM
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நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஒட்டாது
நாம் என்று சொன்னால் உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
- local standard (tamizh standard)
True
In English,
Me, you - Me - udhadu ottum, You - ottAdhu, and Us - ottAdhu
So, in this case
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஓட்டும் AnAl ஒட்டாது
நாம் என்று சொன்னால் உதடுகள் ஒட்டாது
In Hindi
mein, tum, hum - ellA caselayum ottum
So
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
நாம் என்று சொன்னாலும் உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
So, this is only tamizh standards. World standard illai - correctA?
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 07:05 PM
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Sanjeevi,
I agree to your explanation of World Standard
Still, calling kuRaL as உ.பொ.ம. when most people in a place 1 hour from Cbe are not aware of it (I mean Palakkad) is nothing but a joke.
Your explanation is fine as for as the definition, however, as standard = தரம்.
Where's any world "standard" for music? (Let's not confuse recording / audio kwality etc here).
I don't think there's any except for the definition that it should neither be noise nor prose order
Calling any form of music as standard / non-standard or quality / no-quality is simply a matter of opinion & taste!
The whole thingy of "world class" for art is bogus, IMSO.
OTOH, there can be "world class" for manufacturing, where you can measure using specific parameters and set bench marks as to what is world class, what is national class, what is military class etc by organizations (e.g. 6 sigma) but such measures cannot be applied to art.
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Sanjeevi,
I agree to your explanation of World Standard
Still, calling kuRaL as உ.பொ.ம. when most people in a place 1 hour from Cbe are not aware of it (I mean Palakkad) is nothing but a joke.
Your explanation is fine as for as the definition, however, as standard = தரம்.
Where's any world "standard" for music? (Let's not confuse recording / audio kwality etc here).
I don't think there's any except for the definition that it should neither be noise nor prose order
Calling any form of music as standard / non-standard or quality / no-quality is simply a matter of opinion & taste!
The whole thingy of "world class" for art is bogus, IMSO.
OTOH, there can be "world class" for manufacturing, where you can measure using specific parameters and set bench marks as to what is world class, what is national class, what is military class etc by organizations (e.g. 6 sigma) but such measures cannot be applied for art.
Absoleetly. Well put, app.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 07:08 PM
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Infact in music/movie the more the product is "ulloor class" - the more the product deserves respect..isnt it?
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:11 PM
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I think the word we are looking for, when it comes to Art, is universality..
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
I think the word we are looking for, when it comes to Art, is universality..
This makes more sense.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN
on 29th November 2010 07:13 PM
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I remember seeing an Ad for this during Shivaji the boss time, hasn't this Film been under production for many years? why was it not released a lot earlier ? Financial Problems ?
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 07:15 PM
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Then we'll have to accept that "Ek dO theen chAr pAnch chE sAth At nau" is the most universal meesic, as no other song - let it be Raja or Rahman - has evoked such a favourable response with every one of my Detroit friends (highly diversified / multi-ethnic / decent quantity of samples)
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:18 PM
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Raaja's intricacies of WCM could "speak" to all kinds of people. It's "universal" in that respect. Michael Nyman's perplexity of Raaja's strong understanding and boundless creativity in "their" domain.
OTOH, some of his tribal & Kuthu songs might not make an equal impact. And will lose its flavor if rendered universally assimilable.
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Infact in music/movie the more the product is "ulloor class" - the more the product deserves respect..isnt it?
for me, breaking away, veering away from existing patterns gets utmost respect.......
Global standard for arts is indeed a loose term but is applicable to some extent........mozart's music is a benchmark in world music, IR's music which is nearly as good is indeed a "world standard" music..........his music might lack the universal appeal or a pan-global appeal but can still be compared to world's best works........
interestingly me and my cuz were arguing couple of days back as to why kamal is being called ulaganayagan on these lines
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 07:18 PM
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VJerry, saari for the distarbans but can u tell me the show timings? After finding the telephone no ( 04344222266 ) i called and no one picked the phone till now
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Infact in music/movie the more the product is "ulloor class" - the more the product deserves respect..isnt it?
for me, breaking away, veering away from existing patterns gets utmost respect.......
Global standard for arts is indeed a loose term but is applicable to some extent........
mozart's music is a benchmark in world music, IR's music which is nearly as good is indeed a "world standard" music..........his music might lack the universal appeal or a pan-global appeal but can still be compared to world's best works........
interestingly me and my cuz were arguing couple of days back as to why kamal is being called ulaganayagan on these lines

You mean Mozart of Madras?
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Raaja's intricacies of WCM could "speak" to all kinds of people. It's "universal" in that respect. Michael Nyman's perplexity of Raaja's strong understanding and boundless creativity in "their" domain.
OTOH, some of his tribal & Kuthu songs might not make an equal impact. And will lose its flavor if rendered universally assimilable.
Of course, this has nothing to with wider (public) appeal.
Naturally Hollywood > (few other industries).... > Hindi cinema > Tamil cinema.
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Infact in music/movie the more the product is "ulloor class" - the more the product deserves respect..isnt it?
for me, breaking away, veering away from existing patterns gets utmost respect.......
Global standard for arts is indeed a loose term but is applicable to some extent........
mozart's music is a benchmark in world music, IR's music which is nearly as good is indeed a "world standard" music..........his music might lack the universal appeal or a pan-global appeal but can still be compared to world's best works........
interestingly me and my cuz were arguing couple of days back as to why kamal is being called ulaganayagan on these lines

You mean Mozart of Madras?


good one, i meant the real mozart.........
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
interestingly me and my cuz were arguing couple of days back as to why kamal is being called ulaganayagan on these lines

For being accepted as an actor in most number of languages in India.
Obviously, he hadn't done a single straight 'English film'. Not everyone could be Anil kafoor. :P
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 07:29 PM
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ennanga apdi sollittInga? Amit-ji has done full English film. That too seshappa iyer nAdagathula nadikkara actorA! Full english recital you know!
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
MADDY
interestingly me and my cuz were arguing couple of days back as to why kamal is being called ulaganayagan on these lines

For being accepted as an actor in most number of languages in India.
Obviously, he hadn't done a single straight 'English film'. Not everyone could be Anil kafoor. :P
so, that should be agila-Indhiya-nayagan or something.........we were arguing for instance what are kamal's achievements on world stage to elicit such a title - then we zeroed in on fact that kamal's acting is really "world standard" which indeed makes him ulaganayagan........but today i see arguements on "world standard", i was shocked
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:34 PM
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Ha ha.
But Anil Kafoor is the hottest property (courtesy of Boyle) in Hollywood circles. Did you know that Chris Nolan and Oliver Stone wanted him to do Inception and Wall Street respectively? Namba aalu adhalan reject pannitaar, ippo Mission Impossible 4 panraar.
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From: PG2010
on 29th November 2010 07:36 PM
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England in Australia for Ashes
England reduced to Ashes in Australia .
plum bro change your siggy . :P
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From: P_R
on 29th November 2010 07:37 PM
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Anil Gafoor rejetted InceptionA
:thalai suththudhu:
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 07:38 PM
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you are making this up, kid!
Kamal world standards so ulaga nAyaganna appO indiavla vERa yArumE nadigan world standard illaiyA?-ngaREn!
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Anil Gafoor rejetted InceptionA
:thalai suththudhu:
Yussef character.
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Kamal world standards so ulaga nAyaganna appO indiavla vERa yArumE nadigan world standard illaiyA?-ngaREn!
All said and done, adhu oru local fan (KSR) vecha 'title'..
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 07:44 PM
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I think your kostin was intended for Maddy. Gtg (home). Hope the discussion carries on. Will join in. Going to watch El Clasico late tonight..
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 07:54 PM
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Kamal ulaga naayagan becos of being the only artist, NOT JUST actor, to touch "wordclass\highclass\new class, new stuff, interesting stuff" in so many areas. needless to say there is no one available for comparision, inside india, thus he is ulaga naayagan of India and a good candidate for global cinema aka aaliwud.
and IMHO, Raja is Mozart of India and ARR is NOT. He is Micheal Jackson of India.
In simple words, an ulagamagaa artist in india is the ONE who is eligible to be called as 'as good as' any similar artist of same field in world, and comparable with them
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From: PG2010
on 29th November 2010 07:55 PM
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இப்படத்திற்கு மணி மகுடமென்றால் அது இளையராஜாவை தவிர வேறு யாரையும் சொல்ல முடியாது. மொட்டை கலக்கியிருக்கிறார். ஆரம்ப காட்சியில் சலசலக்கும் நீரின் ஓசையோடு ஆரம்பிக்கும் இவரது ராஜ்ஜியம் படத்தின் கடைசி காட்சி வரை அதுவும் ரோலிங் டைட்டில் முடியும் வரை கலங்கிய கண்களோடு தியேட்டரில் நிற்கும் ரசிகர்களே அதற்கு சாட்சி. பின்னணியிசை என்றால் என்ன என்பதை இன்றளவில் உயர் நிலையில் இருக்கும் இசையமைப்பாளர்களும் சரி, புதியவர்களுக்கும் சரி பார்த்து கற்றுக் கொள்ள வேண்டும். குறிப்பாய் எங்கு இசை ஒலிக்கக்கூடாது என்பது சரியாக புரிந்து மெளனத்தையே இசையாய் கொண்டு வந்திருக்கும் ராஜா க்டைசி இருப்து நிமிடங்கள் இசை ராஜாங்கமே நடத்தியிருக்கிறார். என்னால் அந்த கடைசி நிமிடங்களில் கண்ணீரை அடக்க முடியவில்லை. படத்தின் காட்சி ஏற்படுத்திய பாதிப்பை விட அதை இசையால் சந்தோஷமோ, துக்கமோ, எல்லா உணர்வுகளையும் மெல்ல மெல்ல ஸ்லோ பாய்சன் போல நம்முள் ஏற்றி.. போதையாய், உருக்கமாய், உணர்வுகளூடே பயணித்து கரைய வைத்திருக்கிறார். முக்கியமாய் அகியின் அம்மா மிஷ்கினிடம் பேசும் வசனமேயில்லாத சிங்கிள் டாப் ஆங்கில் ஷாட்டில் ஒரு கதையை தன் இசையாலேயே சொல்லி கலங்கடித்திருக்கும் மொட்டை என் மொட்டை..
http://cablesankar.blogspot.com/2010...post_7398.html
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From: MADDY
on 29th November 2010 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Kamal ulaga naayagan becos of being the only artist, NOT JUST actor, to touch "wordclass\highclass\new class, new stuff, interesting stuff" in so many areas. needless to say there is no one available for comparision, inside india, thus he is ulaga naayagan of India and a good candidate for global cinema aka aaliwud.
adhe dhaan naangalum(me and my cuz) concludinom but today app says there is nothing like worldclass when it comes to art - adhaan ketten........i have no doubts that kamal is world class and i wouldnt flinch from comparing him with Al Pacino etc......

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
and IMHO, Raja is Mozart of India and ARR is NOT. He is Micheal Jackson of India
just imagined thalaivar dancing for "black or white" song
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 08:05 PM
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For a moment, let's take IR / KH and our locals out of the "WC" discussion.
Who is the WC composer in HW today, who competes with Mozart? (whom we take as a WC benchmark, only for discussion's sake here; otherwise, per my current bOdhi maram, any comparison of two pieces of music is absurd unless one is a copy of another)
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From: jaiganes
on 29th November 2010 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
and IMHO, Raja is Mozart of India and ARR is NOT. He is Micheal Jackson of India.
I dont like these labels any one bit.
Ivan enga ooru chachin.
Avan enga ooru kabil dev.
naansens..
ARR is ARR - by labelling him as MJ of india, we are reducing his talents to just pop.
If you call Raaja as mozart of India, we are splitting away the genius who can do all genres of music.
Manidhanai manidhanaai paarum apdinnu kamal sonnaare adhu pola.
Raasa Raasa thaan,
Rahmaan Rahmaan thaan.
indha adaimozhiyellaam kazhaga kalaachaaram, Adhulendhu velila vaangappa.
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From: PG2010
on 29th November 2010 08:07 PM
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few interesting comments for cable :
செங்கோவி said...
...நமக்கு வாய்த்த மிஷ்கின் மிக மிகத் திறமைசாலி..ஆனால் வாய்தான் காதுவரை நீள்கிறது...
ஜீ... said...
கொடுமையைப் பாருங்க! நாங்க இங்க (கொழும்பில) DVD க்கு காத்திருக்கணும். அந்த தியேட்டர்லயாவது ரிலீஸ் பண்றாங்களோ தெரியல! சுறா, வில்லு போன்ற பின்நவீனத்துவ படங்கள் தான் உடனே வரும்.
இராமசாமி கண்ணண் said...
காப்பி அடிக்கறது தப்பே இல்ல... ஆனால் i am inspired by this அப்படின்னு வெளில சொல்றவன் ஒரு நல்ல கலைஞன்னா இருக்க முடியும்...
இதையெல்லாம் இங்க போடலாமா
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From: jaiganes
on 29th November 2010 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
For a moment, let's take IR / KH and our locals out of the "WC" discussion.
Who is the WC composer in HW today, who competes with Mozart? (whom we take as a WC benchmark, only for discussion's sake here; otherwise, per my current bOdhi maram, any comparison of two pieces of music is absurd unless one is a copy of another)
Point to be also noted is that Raaja, Rahman, Kamal all these artistes have been handsomely rewarded and recognized in their lifetime itself, Unlike a Mozart or a bharathiyaar who have seen abject non recognition of their talents in their lifetime. So comparisons, labels are very odious.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 08:13 PM
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reposting!

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
VJerry, saari for the distarbans but can u tell me the show timings? After finding the telephone no ( 04344222266 ) i called and no one picked the phone till now
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From: V_S
on 29th November 2010 08:15 PM
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Nandhalala Special: Directors Meet (Please ignore if already posted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aOD9...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXV5...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVIA...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgVxFcmSag&feature=player_embedded#!
Interesting insights, some exchanges between Mysskin and Cheran.
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 29th November 2010 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
app_engine
For a moment, let's take IR / KH and our locals out of the "WC" discussion.
Who is the WC composer in HW today, who competes with Mozart? (whom we take as a WC benchmark, only for discussion's sake here; otherwise, per my current bOdhi maram, any comparison of two pieces of music is absurd unless one is a copy of another)
Point to be also noted is that Raaja, Rahman, Kamal all these artistes have been handsomely rewarded and recognized in their lifetime itself, Unlike a Mozart or a bharathiyaar who have seen abject non recognition of their talents in their lifetime. So comparisons, labels are very odious.
From my limited read, mozart was well recognised both in fame and money. It is bethoveen who suffered
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From: VJerry
on 29th November 2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
reposting!

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
VJerry, saari for the distarbans but can u tell me the show timings? After finding the telephone no ( 04344222266 ) i called and no one picked the phone till now
Sorry, I missed it.
Evening show 6.15. Night show 9.15.
Afternoon should be 2.30, I guess. This is normal showtimings as any TamilNadu theatre.
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 09:12 PM
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Mannil thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu
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From: Plum
on 29th November 2010 09:14 PM
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1. I still dont see the point of world-class. Mammotty, pachanlAm world class illaiyA? avaingaLaiyum ulaganayagannu sollalAmA?
2.France pOndra melainAdugaLula world class nadigar yAru? Idhukku badhil vENumna charu nivedita kitta dhaan kEkkaNumA?
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From: ajaybaskar
on 29th November 2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

Awesome lyrics for that song..
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar

Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

Awesome lyrics for that song..

What is awesome about these lines

I am only reminded of these lines;
dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
ARR is ARR - by labelling him as MJ of india, we are reducing his talents to just pop.
If you call Raaja as mozart of India, we are splitting away the genius who can do all genres of music.
We are not limiting ARR ONLY as MJ. Its just a comparison just to relate with the global popularity. Same for Mozart of India
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan

Originally Posted by
Plum
Avarum peter

What about mu.ka then?
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
"புத்தம் புது பூமி வேண்டும்"
எல்லா காலத்துக்குமான #1 தமிழ்ப்படப்பாடல், என் கருத்தில்!
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar

Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

Awesome lyrics for that song..

What is awesome about these lines

I am only reminded of these lines;
dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
ungalukku pidikkalainaa enna panna mudiyum..
beauty lies in simplicity and almost the same meaning has been conveyed more simplistically ..
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 09:45 PM
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"Beauty lies in simplicity"
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
Roshan

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar

Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

Awesome lyrics for that song..

What is awesome about these lines

I am only reminded of these lines;
dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
ungalukku pidikkalainaa enna panna mudiyum..
beauty lies in simplicity[/b] and almost the same meaning has been conveyed more simplistically ..
Not with regard to poetries and lyrics. unga definitionpadi paarthaa Kamal's kavithai in MA is the most ugliest - yENna it lacks simplicity to a greater extent.
Besides the puthuputhu boomi is much simpler and at the same time much poetic than the above lines quote by you. And it doesnt take much poetic skills to right such lines like manasil yEN kOdugaL. neenga kooda ezhuthalaam
Simbu kooda "evada onna peththaa peththaa" - nu simple'a ezhuthi irukkaar.
If that's what you prefer then you are not into poetries much. unga rasanai vaeRa.
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 09:46 PM
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Roshan,
MMA-la lyrics same reason-aala lyrics nalla illai.. manasula ottalainnu audio release aana vudaney post panniyaachu..
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 09:47 PM
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Roshan,
No one is saying the other is "ugly". It's a matter of preference, illaiya?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan

Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
do you think both are same?..just because of the "kodu?"
the line in nandhalala is more of a personal line while the lines you have mentioned are pretty different. I am not able to explain it with my english but you can easily feel the context in which they both are told are completely different.
An then I dont think this "kodu" was first written by vairamuthu. Its a very common line which would have been mentioned by poets before him and poets before them.
The impact of those lines in Nandhala

jesudas

what ya voice..what ya feel
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Roshan,
No one is saying the other is "ugly". It's a matter of preference, illaiya?
It was implied I felt. Taste differ - adha oththukuraen.
Vicky, I was only looking at the literal meaning of those lines. NOthing special nor exciting. Very plain and flat. idhellaam neenga, naan, anban kooda ezhuthalaam. visualOdu pAkkumpOthu vaeRa effect irukkalaam. I agree.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Roshan,
No one is saying the other is "ugly". It's a matter of preference, illaiya?
It was implied I felt. Taste differ - adha oththukuraen.
Vicky, I was only looking at the literal meaning of those lines. NOthing special nor exciting. Very plain and flat. idhellaam neenga, naan, anban kooda ezhuthalaam. visualOdu pAkkumpOthu vaeRa effect irukkalaam. I agree.
even the literary meaning was good . if kannadasan writes "unakkum keele ullavar kodi" - its a very simple line and everybody knows it right?. But hits you isnt it?
can you reject that line saying its simple..nothing special nor exciting? "mannil thane ellai kodugal manadhil kodu yaar potadhu?" was such a line.
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 09:58 PM
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My (layman) POV.
Vairam is more of an acquired taste. Kannadasan's greatness - have only consumed one drop of the ocean. But very much impressed. Vaali is my favorite lyricist.
All said, I have lyrical ADD. Need many listens (and finally the lyrics handout when all fails) to fully consume any song. And I could never recount the exact lines even if my life depended on it.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 10:02 PM
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உன்னைப் போல என்னை எண்ணினால்
நெஞ்சில் கங்கை ஆறோடுமே
எங்கிருந்தோ இங்கு வந்தோம்
வந்ததெல்லாம் சொந்தங்களே
simple yet beatiful lines
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 10:05 PM
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Vicky, intha ellai kOdu - manakOdu idha vechu niRaiya pEru roadu pOttirukkaanga - that may be the reason why those lines sounded so plain and boring to me.
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From: Roshan
on 29th November 2010 10:07 PM
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Anyway, keep enjoying the simple beauty..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
Vicky, intha ellai kOdu - manakOdu idha vechu niRaiya pEru roadu pOttirukkaanga - that may be the reason why those lines sounded so plain and boring to me.
pudhusathaan roadu podanumna yaryme poda mudiyadhunga. .. Its all about how those lines fit the bill on that instance
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Roshan
Vicky, intha ellai kOdu - manakOdu idha vechu niRaiya pEru roadu pOttirukkaanga - that may be the reason why those lines sounded so plain and boring to me.
pudhusathaan roadu podanumna yaryme poda mudiyadhillaya?. .. Its all how those lines fit the bill on that instance.
It sits superbly...
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
Anyway, keep enjoying the simple beauty..

right
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From: Vivasaayi
on 29th November 2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
If that's what you prefer then you are not into poetries much. unga rasanai vaeRa.
ohO! idhu veerayaa! enga rasanaya muyarcchi panni valathikurom..
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஒட்டாது
நாம் என்று சொன்னால் உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
- local standard (tamizh standard)
True
In English,
Me, you - Me - udhadu ottum, You - ottAdhu, and Us - ottAdhu
So, in this case
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஓட்டும் AnAl ஒட்டாது
நாம் என்று சொன்னால் உதடுகள் ஒட்டாது
In Hindi
mein, tum, hum - ellA caselayum ottum
So
நான் நீ என்று சொல்லும் பொது உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
நாம் என்று சொன்னாலும் உதடுகள் ஓட்டும்
So, this is only tamizh standards. World standard illai - correctA?
neenga sonna thappaguma

but the way you explain
there is another famous 'kizhamaigalai adukkum' Mu.Ka quote came in my mind
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
Sanjeevi,
I agree to your explanation of World Standard
Still, calling kuRaL as உ.பொ.ம. when most people in a place 1 hour from Cbe are not aware of it (I mean Palakkad) is nothing but a joke.
Your explanation is fine as for as the definition, however, as standard = தரம்.
Where's any world "standard" for music? (Let's not confuse recording / audio kwality etc here).
I don't think there's any except for the definition that it should neither be noise nor prose order
Calling any form of music as standard / non-standard or quality / no-quality is simply a matter of opinion & taste!
The whole thingy of "world class" for art is bogus, IMSO.
OTOH, there can be "world class" for manufacturing, where you can measure using specific parameters and set bench marks as to what is world class, what is national class, what is military class etc by organizations (e.g. 6 sigma) but such measures cannot be applied to art.
app, IMO the term உ.பொ.ம. mostly because of its religion independent. Mathapadi I too have confusion about world standard music
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 10:25 PM
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Sanjeevi,
When I saw this (nAn nee nAm udhadu ottal) a few years back in a gov bus in TN (that was when TNSTC was formed) I LOL'ed for a minute!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 10:27 PM
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sanjeeve / rajasaranam,
where is obeo used? which song?
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
sanjeeve / rajasaranam,
where is obeo used? which song?
almost in many scenes. Is not it?
please listen the samples
here and compare with move BGM. ithukku mela enakku solla theriyala
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th November 2010 11:02 PM
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i know obeo! have listened excellent pieces like Swan Lake etc!
btw, yet to watch the movie
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From: jaiganes
on 29th November 2010 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan

Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar

Originally Posted by
Anban
Manni thaane ellai kodugal..
manathil kodu yaar pottathhu

Awesome lyrics for that song..

What is awesome about these lines

I am only reminded of these lines;
dhEsaththin ellai kOdugaL avai neengattum
theyvangaL intha maNNilE vanthu vaazhattum
subtlety is an art. One major grouse about VM's lines is that he conceives wonderful "similes" and metaphors, yet spoils the intrigue by being vivid explanation. Sometimes it is good, but not in all contexts.. For example. in kannukkul nooru nilavaa song from Vedham pudhidhu..
he writes
"Vaanukku ellai yaar poattadhu?
Vaazhkaikku ellai naam poattadhu?"
The comparison (metaphor) already proves the point in the first line, yet he takes the konar note and explains it - It is not a spoiler because the words fit the music so perfectly that the melody and tune save the day. Having said that I should add, in hands of lesser MDs his "kavidhais" sound somewhat atrocious. In hands of IR, ARR, his lyrics find their perfect counterbalance.
Regarding this song (Onnukkonnu), the context is what gives the weightage to the lyrics and song and not the other way round. So the lyrics are written like feathers of a bird - as light as possible, trying to be as subtle as possible and very restrained. So is the music. The whole song is an "Aarudhal" song and doesnt need an egotistic statement like "I want a new world".
@A_E Putham pudhu bhoomi is a very good stand alone song, but absoltely intolerable in the movie - as much as the lyrics are altrusitic, the characters involved are petty thieves with no pre written notions of grandeur and ambitions.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 29th November 2010 11:23 PM
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.... doesnt need an egotistic statement like "I want a new world"
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
@A_E Putham pudhu bhoomi is a very good stand alone song, but absoltely intolerable in the movie - as much as the lyrics are altrusitic, the characters involved are petty thieves with no pre written notions of grandeur and ambitions.
நல்ல வேளை, இது வரை நான் பார்க்கலை - இனியும் பார்க்கும் வாய்ப்பில்லை
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From: jaiganes
on 29th November 2010 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
@A_E Putham pudhu bhoomi is a very good stand alone song, but absoltely intolerable in the movie - as much as the lyrics are altrusitic, the characters involved are petty thieves with no pre written notions of grandeur and ambitions.
நல்ல வேளை, இது வரை நான் பார்க்கலை - இனியும் பார்க்கும் வாய்ப்பில்லை

paarunga - it is a movie worth watching for its breathtaking cinematography and music (songs and BGM) alone..
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From: Anban
on 29th November 2010 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
@A_E Putham pudhu bhoomi is a very good stand alone song, but absoltely intolerable in the movie - as much as the lyrics are altrusitic, the characters involved are petty thieves with no pre written notions of grandeur and ambitions.
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From: Nerd
on 29th November 2010 11:30 PM
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Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). It has been used many times by IR himself is it not? Idhayathi thirudaadhE BGM, ThaalaattudhE vaanam song etc. Mysskin kooda, saar neenga en padathukku oboe ellaam use pannirukkeengaLE, eppadi (tempo ellaam vechu kadathuna maadhiri)
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine

Originally Posted by
jaiganes
@A_E Putham pudhu bhoomi is a very good stand alone song, but absoltely intolerable in the movie - as much as the lyrics are altrusitic, the characters involved are petty thieves with no pre written notions of grandeur and ambitions.
நல்ல வேளை, இது வரை நான் பார்க்கலை - இனியும் பார்க்கும் வாய்ப்பில்லை

Even to a layman like me, I have often felt VM's lyrics sit uneasily with characters & their mindset. When Roshan brought this issue w.r.t (a somewhat amateur) Kavignar like Kamal, I wanted to bring this up. I hope it conspires into a good discussion..
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From: jaiganes
on 29th November 2010 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). It has been used many times by IR himself is it not? Idhayathi thirudaadhE BGM, ThaalaattudhE vaanam song etc. Mysskin kooda, saar neenga en padathukku oboe ellaam use pannirukkeengaLE, eppadi (tempo ellaam vechu kadathuna maadhiri)

I think he is referring to a predominant place to Oboe.
Woodwinds and shehnai like instruments have been used by raaja previously, but not at this level I think. When I hear the BGM pieces uploaded by Suresh, I think it makes a grander sense.
Even in Pithamagan IR has used oboe or oboe like pieces played by synthesizers, but in this case, the quality of reproduction of the oboe notes are far superior.. definitely.
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From: kid-glove
on 29th November 2010 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
I think he is referring to a predominant place to Oboe.
Woodwinds and shehnai like instruments have been used by raaja previously, but not at this level I think. When I hear the BGM pieces uploaded by Suresh, I think it makes a grander sense.
Even in Pithamagan IR has used oboe or oboe like pieces played by synthesizers, but in this case, the quality of reproduction of the oboe notes are far superior.. definitely.
It sounds far far superior in proper theaters with excellent sound ambiance (Even if PVR is better in this regard than Inox, Satyam, Escape, etc. It's still not up to Devi level I think)
I especially like the Oboe bits* that's played subtley after (mostly 'kind') gesture. It never came off as stilted enhancements, but to repeat my earlier analogy, lubricant to well-set engine (as far as I'm concerned).
And yes, I seem to take to the natural composition than digitized ones. I can't pick it up right away. But after multiple listens, I seem to take to the original* Oboe sound very well..
*-Morricone's Gabriel's Oboe orchestra in youtube will be one of my most watched videos. I guess I'm a Oboe fetishist.
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From: app_engine
on 29th November 2010 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
oboe ellaam use pannirukkeenga
rhymes with "கத்திக்குத்தெல்லாம் வாங்கீருக்கேன்" of Hanifa
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From: app_engine
on 30th November 2010 01:27 AM
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எங்க பார்த்தாலும் இந்த "உலகத்தர" டிஸ்கஷன்
பார்வையாளன்:
3. உலகப்பட தரத்தை நாம் என்றுமே எட்ட முடியாமல் போய் விடும்..
கேபிள் சங்கர்:
உலக தரம் என்றால் என்ன..? நமக்கு ஜப்பான் படம் உலக படம் என்றால். ஜப்பான் காரனுக்கு நம்ம படம் உலக படம்.. அவ்வளவுதான்..
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 02:20 AM
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மதுபால கிருஷ்ணன் அல்லது ஸ்ரீராம் பார்த்தசாரதிக்கு "ஒன்னுக்கொண்ணு.." பாடலை ராஜா கொடுத்திருக்கலாம் எனத் தோன்றுகிறது. பல இடங்களில் ஏசுதாஸின் குரல் மூப்பின் காரணமாக தழுதழுக்கிறது. அவருடைய உச்ச ஆண்டுகளில் இவர் இதே பாடலை பாடியிருந்தால் அதில் இருக்கும் சுவையே தனி. அண்ணா..இனி ஓய்வெடுத்துக்கொள்வதே ரசிகர்களுக்கும், உங்களுக்கும் நல்லது.
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From: Anban
on 30th November 2010 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
மதுபால கிருஷ்ணன் அல்லது ஸ்ரீராம் பார்த்தசாரதிக்கு "ஒன்னுக்கொண்ணு.." பாடலை ராஜா கொடுத்திருக்கலாம் எனத் தோன்றுகிறது. பல இடங்களில் ஏசுதாஸின் குரல் மூப்பின் காரணமாக தழுதழுக்கிறது. அவருடைய உச்ச ஆண்டுகளில் இவர் இதே பாடலை பாடியிருந்தால் அதில் இருக்கும் சுவையே தனி. அண்ணா..இனி ஓய்வெடுத்துக்கொள்வதே ரசிகர்களுக்கும், உங்களுக்கும் நல்லது.
enna sir ippidi sollitteenga.. it may not be youthful.. but oru divine effect irukku..
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban

Originally Posted by
venkkiram
மதுபால கிருஷ்ணன் அல்லது ஸ்ரீராம் பார்த்தசாரதிக்கு "ஒன்னுக்கொண்ணு.." பாடலை ராஜா கொடுத்திருக்கலாம் எனத் தோன்றுகிறது. பல இடங்களில் ஏசுதாஸின் குரல் மூப்பின் காரணமாக தழுதழுக்கிறது. அவருடைய உச்ச ஆண்டுகளில் இவர் இதே பாடலை பாடியிருந்தால் அதில் இருக்கும் சுவையே தனி. அண்ணா..இனி ஓய்வெடுத்துக்கொள்வதே ரசிகர்களுக்கும், உங்களுக்கும் நல்லது.
enna sir ippidi sollitteenga..
நானும் இந்தப் பாடலை தொடர்ந்து கேட்டுத்தான் வருகிறேன்.. இளைஞர்களிடம் கொடுக்கணும் என நான் சொல்வது youthfulக்காக அல்ல. இதே ஏசுதாஸ் இளைஞராக இருந்தபோது ரொம்ப பக்குவமான பாடல் நிறைய பாடியிருக்கிறார். மதுபால கிருஷ்ணன், ஸ்ரீராம் பார்த்தசாரதி போன்றவர்கள் அப்படிப்பட்டவர்கள். பிச்சைப் பாத்திரம் நன்றாகத்தானே இருக்கிறது...
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 08:39 AM
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For all his talent, pitcha pathiram by madhu lacks poignance. Yesudoss was fine for oNNukoNNu. Definitely not Sriram P. His voice lacks fullness, if you see what I mean.
Jesu aNNa already nalla Oyvula dhAn irukkAr. eppayO oru muRai pAdaRAr. adhu indha mAdhiri nallA amaivadhum oru sugamE. avarukku retirement advice thEvai illai.
A few observations:
1. If it had been X instead of IR, and Y instrument instead of Oboe, statements like "Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). " will be interpreted as vayitherichal. Glad that no IR fan raised that bogey to Nerd.
2. The ulaga tharam discussion would have been perceived as against a particular movie and vayitherichal bogey would have been raised and people would have started sporting "moderator araajagam" etc in their signatures. Ia m disappointed that people like app engine, SKV, Vivs aren't doing this sort of moaning

3. Again, IR fans idhu dhAn musicnu sonnA adhu ANavam. VM fans Vm ezhudharadhu dhAN poetry apdinnu establish paNNa mathadhai ellAm koRai sonnA adhu genuine criticism...stereotyping rule #1 in Hub.
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 09:15 AM
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நந்தலாலா -
ஒரு அருமையான கவிதைத் தொகுப்பு..
ஒரு அழகான பூங்கொத்து..
ஆரம்ப காட்சியே (டைட்டில்) கவிதையின் துவக்கமாக இருக்கும்..
சலசலக்கும் ஓடை நீருக்கடியில் பச்சை பசலேன தாவரங்கள் அசைந்து கொண்டே இருப்பது தமிழ்த் திரையுலகத்திற்கு புத்தம் புதிது..
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From: rajasaranam
on 30th November 2010 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
An then I dont think this "kodu" was first written by vairamuthu. Its a very common line which would have been mentioned by poets before him and poets before them.
உலகம் உன்னுடையது!
-பாரதிதாசன்
பள்ளம் பறிப்பாய், பாதா ளத்தின்
அடிப்புறம் நோக்கி அழுந்துக! அழுந்துக!
பள்ளந் தனில்விழும் பிள்ளைப் பூச்சியே,
தலையைத் தாழ்த்து! முகத்தைத் தாழ்த்து!
தோளையும் உதட்டையும் தொங்கவை! ஈன
உளத்தை, உடலை, உயிரைச் சுருக்கு!
நக்கிக்குடி! அதை நல்லதென்று சொல்!
தாழ்ந்து தாழ்ந்து தாழ்ந்த நாயினும்
தாழ்ந்துபோ! குனிந்து தரையைக் கெளவி
ஆமையைப் போலே அடங்கி ஒடுங்கு!
பொட்டுப் பூச்சியே, புன்மைத் தேரையே,
அழு!இளி! அஞ்சு! குனி! பிதற்று!
கன்னங் கருத்த இருட்டின் கறையே!
தொங்கும் நரம்பின் தூளே! இதைக்கேள்:
மனிதரில் நீயுமோர் மனிதன்; மண்ணன்று!
இமைதிற! எழுந்து நன்றாய் எண்ணுவாய்!
தோளை உயர்த்து! சுடர்முகம் தூக்கு!
மீசையை முறுக்கி மேலே ஏற்று!
விழித்த விழியில் மேதினிக் கொளிசெய்!
நகைப்பை முழக்கு! நடத்து லோகத்தை!
உன்வீடு - உனது பக்கத்து வீட்டின்
இடையில் வைத்த சுவரை இடித்து
வீதிகள் இடையில் திரையை விலக்கி
நாட்டொடு நாட்டை இணைத்து மேலே
ஏறு! வானை இடிக்கும் மலைமேல்
ஏறு விடாமல்! ஏறு மேன்மேல்!
ஏறி நின்று பாரடா எங்கும்!
எங்கும் பாரடா இப்புவி மக்களை!
பாரடா உனது மானிடப் பரப்பை!
பாரடா உன்னுடன் பிறந்த பட்டாளம்!
யுஎன்குலம்ரு என்றுனைத் தன்னிடம் ஒட்டிய
மக்கட் பெருங்கடல் பார்த்து மகிழ்ச்சிகொள்!
அறிவை விரிவுசெய்! அகண்ட மாக்கு!
விசாலப் பார்வையால் விழுங்கு மக்களை!
அணைந்துகொள்! உன்னைச் சங்கம மாக்கு.
மானிட சமுத்திரம் நானென்று கூவு!
பிரிவிலை எங்கும் பேத மில்லை
உலகம் உண்ணஉண்! உடுத்த உடுப்பாய்!
புகல்வேன்: "உடைமை மக்களுக்குப் பொது!"
புவியை நடத்து! பொதுவில் நடத்து!
வானைப் போல மக்களைத் தாவும்
வெள்ள அன்பால் இதனைக்
குள்ள மனிதர்க்கும் கூறடா தோழனே!
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
For all his talent, pitcha pathiram by madhu lacks poignance. Yesudoss was fine for oNNukoNNu.
From this comparison, I see your biased stand.
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 09:49 AM
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பனிக்குடத்தினுள் நீந்திய களிப்பு... நந்தலாலா
விமர்சனத்தின் முடிவுரை ரத்தினமாக ஜொலிக்கிறது..
ஒற்றை தென்னை மரம் சாட்சியாக நிலா காயும் முற்றம் எங்காவது இருந்தால் சொல்லுங்கள் . அங்கு என் மடியில் பாஸ்கர் மணியின் கால் ரணத்தில் எச்சில் களிம்பு பூசி, தலை கோதி அவன் விழிக்கும் வரை தாலாட்டிட ஆசை....
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
A few observations:
1. If it had been X instead of IR, and Y instrument instead of Oboe, statements like "Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). " will be interpreted as vayitherichal. Glad that no IR fan raised that bogey to Nerd.
because Nerd himself is a IR fan........even in ARR forums we discuss "whats so special abt this" things............
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 30th November 2010 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
எங்க பார்த்தாலும் இந்த "உலகத்தர" டிஸ்கஷன்
பார்வையாளன்:
3. உலகப்பட தரத்தை நாம் என்றுமே எட்ட முடியாமல் போய் விடும்..
கேபிள் சங்கர்:
உலக தரம் என்றால் என்ன..? நமக்கு ஜப்பான் படம் உலக படம் என்றால். ஜப்பான் காரனுக்கு நம்ம படம் உலக படம்.. அவ்வளவுதான்..
Nobody has given such a simble explaination on "உலக தரம் "
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 10:37 AM
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Madhu lacks poignance - idhulErundhu bias kaNdupidicha gdnaidu venkkiram vAzhga

Check it out - i have been critical of jesu aNNA's recent attempts and extremely fannish of madhu b in this forum. For me to say that jesu aNNa did well in onnukonnu and madhu b not so in pitchai paathiram is actually lack of bias.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 10:39 AM
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Saw a few cliffings, excerpts. Konjam bayamA dhaan irukku
a) Myshkin talking incomprehensibly like that one armed guy in AnjaadhEy :jang:
b) Myskin, lorry driver acting sEmbil in the oNNukkoNNu song :jajajang:
c) Legpiece shots. Worked in that frenzied scene in AnjaadhEy. That was thrilling. In (what looks like) a largely eventless movie, not sheer how much that'll buy :jajajajaaaaang:
anEgamA kalaignargaLai urchAgappadutha vEndi varum-nu ninaikkiREn. Espetationai low-va vachukkuradhu eppOdhum nalladhukkE.
Anyway, weekend paathuRaNum.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 10:47 AM
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Feeyaar, nInga negative review pOttA, i'll instigate myshlin and ir fans to cry vaitherichal(on the good reviews it is getting) and encourage them to sport "moderator araajagam" in signatures, in the 2010 style of Hub tamil films forum
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From: kid-glove
on 30th November 2010 10:52 AM
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PR,
It's many things but eventless it is Not!
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From: kid-glove
on 30th November 2010 10:55 AM
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KJY singing'a kurai solra alavukku poyiruchu. Mudila sir!
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From: kid-glove
on 30th November 2010 10:59 AM
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Mysskin's demeanor seemed okay overall. At no moment, it came off as intolerable. The very final scene is something of a surprise though.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 11:03 AM
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I was at a KJY concert last season.
Even to my ear it was quite clear that his voice was nothing like what it used to be. dham katta mudila etc. Higher notes left to listener's imagination at times.
That said, oNNukkoNNu was good only.
I sometimes struggle to tell apart KJY and MB till well into a song.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
PR, It's many things but eventless it is Not!
Oh ok. That's reassuring.
Yuvar revee?
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 11:09 AM
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Flau, Madhu Balakrishnan unselectedA?
ungaLukku theriyAdhadhu illai ...edhilum ingu iruppAn, piRaiyE piRaiyE ellAm whatay beauty songs. nallA dhaanE paadiruppApla.
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From: kid-glove
on 30th November 2010 11:10 AM
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No revee, but will definitely have something to say. Waiting for y'all to watch it. Irukkura hype podadha?
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From: VJerry
on 30th November 2010 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Saw a few cliffings, excerpts. Konjam bayamA dhaan irukku
a) Myshkin talking incomprehensibly like that one armed guy in AnjaadhEy :jang:
b) Myskin, lorry driver acting sEmbil in the oNNukkoNNu song :jajajang:
c) Legpiece shots. Worked in that frenzied scene in AnjaadhEy. That was thrilling. In (what looks like) a largely eventless movie, not sheer how much that'll buy :jajajajaaaaang:
anEgamA kalaignargaLai urchAgappadutha vEndi varum-nu ninaikkiREn. Espetationai low-va vachukkuradhu eppOdhum nalladhukkE.
Anyway, weekend paathuRaNum.
Felt the same
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 12:27 PM
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allOv Feeyar, I introdeeced myself as fannish for Madhu B. My response to Venkkiram was that he was quite jumping to conclusions(copyright violation, as you would say) based on my rejection of one song of Madhu B and acceptance of one song of KJY-old. The fact being that I have been critical of old KJY from the times of kaNNAmUchi EnadA, and fannish of Madhu B generally.
piraiye and edhilum are awesome and so are quite a few Vidyasagar ditties.
In Sangeetha Maha Yuddham, he towered above others(admittedly the competition was lame) and acquitted himseelf well in a varied type of songs, thereby outliving the lack of versatility charge laid against him generally and unfairly conferred upon the likes of Shankar M.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
A few observations:
1. If it had been X instead of IR, and Y instrument instead of Oboe, statements like "Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). " will be interpreted as vayitherichal. Glad that no IR fan raised that bogey to Nerd.
because Nerd himself is a IR fan........even in ARR forums we discuss "whats so special abt this" things............
No, Nerd is for now a X-marked candidate in IR forum thanks to
some Rajinifan-IR fan ladaai
So far this year, vayitherichal accusations have been thrown at naysayers predominantly for Endhiran, Ravanan, VTV vonly.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 12:47 PM
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Thanks to all this I am going to hyper aware of BGM when watching the film

@ all
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 12:52 PM
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Let me list some events! First padinga, appuram thittunga
1. Kamal50 event: raasaa quotes kamal as his ONLY sahotharan while others are nanbans and colleagues
2. Rajini daughter wedding: rajini personally didnt invite raasaa, paayaasamum oothalai
3. Enthiran audio launch: rajini spoke about ARR's egoless character, and quoted that manushan evlo saathichaalum ego irunthaal avan periyaaL illa( and on sidenote, note that rajini didnt utter even ONE single word about enthiran music, during that speech!)
i am listing randomly but looks like IR-Rajini friendship in some confusion and fusion is only btw rajini-arr.
i dont care about rajini's, or anyone's comment about one's ego, karvam and its personal comment. but rajini understands the art rasanai thingi much better, inspite of showing no deep interest personally in any single artform. i am talking about his kalai-rasanai speech at kamal-50 function(personally i am fan of this part of hsi speech and ponder/wonder about this many a times) that said, if someone goes and asks rajini about his films music, he will surely place IR atleast 1 % above all other MD's who composed for his films. and thats ONLY about the music, not character or behavior
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
A few observations:
1. If it had been X instead of IR, and Y instrument instead of Oboe, statements like "Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). " will be interpreted as vayitherichal. Glad that no IR fan raised that bogey to Nerd.
because Nerd himself is a IR fan........even in ARR forums we discuss "whats so special abt this" things............
No, Nerd is for now a X-marked candidate in IR forum thanks to
some Rajinifan-IR fan ladaai
So far this year, vayitherichal accusations have been thrown at naysayers predominantly for Endhiran, Ravanan, VTV vonly.
venumna IR fan, illaina X mark

......adhum vera, instrument use pannadhu-kkellam yaarum vAitherichal pada maattanga - output-kku kedarikkura awards and fame sets off vaitherichal.......
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........so u r just supporting Anban and nobody else here.........anyways as u and PR said, vaitherichal is a good thing (surf ad: kara nalla vishayam dhaane) - u shuld take pride in these accusations on Anban

.........btw, raghavendran/me have also been accused of disturbing this thread - so u cannot claim moral high ground here.......
for Endhiran even i bashed Endhiran to a large extent - so i would leave it to rajini fans whether they want to respond to ur statement or not.........
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
i am listing randomly but looks like IR-Rajini friendship in some confusion and fusion is only btw rajini-arr.
i dont care about rajini's, or anyone's comment about one's ego, karvam and its personal comment. but rajini understands the art rasanai thingi much better, inspite of showing no deep interest personally in any single artform. i am talking about his kalai-rasanai speech at kamal-50 function(personally i am fan of this part of hsi speech and ponder/wonder about this many a times) that said, if someone goes and asks rajini about his films music, he will surely place IR atleast 1 % above all other MD's who composed for his films. and thats ONLY about the music, not character or behavior
so, rajini is the ultimate certifier of best MD in the world just bcos he has some rasana in his hand?

he also said, GVP is mix of IR and ARR - wud u take that??
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 03:18 PM
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athellaam enakku theriyaathu! i only vouch for his speech here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp4kG...eature=related 4.25 to 4.50
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
adhavadhu, rajini has ear for good music and he "might" accept IR as the best MD......based on this fact the popular opinion is that AR is a lesser MD and IR is the greatest-nnu neenga conclude panreenga - adhuvum risk illama, rajini pera izhuthhu without invoking kamal

........yenna - naa kamal-a yen ulaganayagan-nnu koopdreenga-nnu kettutten

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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 05:14 PM
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rajini dont seem to have a good ear for music, is my humble opinion! avaroda isai arivu/aarvam pathi erkanave post itten.see my post which is top of this page - " and on sidenote, note that rajini didnt utter even ONE single word about enthiran music, during that speech!" do you think kamal will give a speak about ARR's personal character and skip his music, during the audio ofhis film for which ARR scored music?
that said, i am not saying anything wrong on rajini's listening skills. thatswhy i quote his kalaa-rasanai speech. So rajini with not having a deeper interest in music, unlike kamal, so he will have a opinon much similar to the general public. what will the general public say? i dont know. but as one among that general public, i will say that IR tops as the best MD for rajini films, with ARR coming very close. IMHO, mane thene ellam neengale add pannikunga.
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 05:19 PM
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SKV, neenga idha pathhi, inga, ippa yen pesureenga-nnu sathyama puriyala.......
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From: Pras
on 30th November 2010 05:27 PM
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ippa thaan paa oru interesting-a sanda aarambichirukku ... please kantinue :P
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From: Roshan
on 30th November 2010 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
rajini dont seem to have a good ear for music, is my humble opinion! avaroda isai arivu/aarvam pathi erkanave post itten.see my post which is top of this page - " and on sidenote, note that rajini didnt utter even ONE single word about enthiran music, during that speech!" do you think kamal will give a speak about ARR's personal character and skip his music, during the audio ofhis film for which ARR scored music?
that said, i am not saying anything wrong on rajini's listening skills. thatswhy i quote his kalaa-rasanai speech. So rajini with not having a deeper interest in music, unlike kamal, so he will have a opinon much similar to the general public. what will the general public say? i dont know. but as one among that general public, i will say that IR tops as the best MD for rajini films, with ARR coming very close. IMHO, mane thene ellam neengale add pannikunga.
First of all I am not very clear as to what point you are trying to establish here. enakku purinjatha vechchu solrathunnaa, Rajini spoke quite a bit on songs and music of Endhiran in the SUN TV - song intro program (I saw him speak for two songs on youtube). I have seen Rajini speaking a lot about ARR and his music in various other functions. Audio launchla he didnt touch much on the technical aspects of any department - he was basically talking about the personal side of each person - like Aishwarya's beauty, ARR's humbleness, Kalanidhi attending a public function for the first time.
And your opinion about IR-Rajini and ARR-Rajini doesnt stand valid to me given the number of movies IR and ARR have worked for Rajini. IR oru 50 padathukku mEla paNNi irukkaar but ARR ? If that is your opinion you very well have the right to hold it but there is no need to drag Rajini's audio launch speech to support your argument. And there's absolutely no reason for you to bring up this matter here.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 06:03 PM
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roshan and others, ithu ellaame domplete diggression thaan! and my post doesn't have any content to create a fight! i am not belittling rajini anywhere.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
A few observations:
1. If it had been X instead of IR, and Y instrument instead of Oboe, statements like "Oboe-kku yEn ivLO importance (not necessarily in the hub). " will be interpreted as vayitherichal. Glad that no IR fan raised that bogey to Nerd.
because Nerd himself is a IR fan........even in ARR forums we discuss "whats so special abt this" things............
No, Nerd is for now a X-marked candidate in IR forum thanks to
some Rajinifan-IR fan ladaai
So far this year, vayitherichal accusations have been thrown at naysayers predominantly for Endhiran, Ravanan, VTV vonly.
venumna IR fan, illaina X mark

......adhum vera, instrument use pannadhu-kkellam yaarum vAitherichal pada maattanga - output-kku kedarikkura awards and fame sets off vaitherichal.......
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........so u r just supporting Anban and nobody else here.........anyways as u and PR said, vaitherichal is a good thing (surf ad: kara nalla vishayam dhaane) - u shuld take pride in these accusations on Anban

.........btw, raghavendran/me have also been accused of disturbing this thread - so u cannot claim moral high ground here.......
for Endhiran even i bashed Endhiran to a large extent - so i would leave it to rajini fans whether they want to respond to ur statement or not.........
Disturbing the thread vERa. Criticise paNdravanukku vayatherichal-nu moan paNdradhu vERa.
vayatherichal nalla vishayamnA adhai signaturelalAm pOttu En polambaNum? polambinavangaLukku oru reminder avLO dhAn. I am consistent - appOvum enakku adhu oru periya vishayamillai ippOvum illai. But appO adhai oru kuthamA moan paNNi moderator araajagamnu polambara levelku poNavangaLukku oru reminder ippO kuduthEn avLO dhAn. That too, I am saying that similar behaviour would have been marked as vayatherichal and judgement passed by the same people - I am not judging: neither then nor now. angE dhAn consistency illaingaREn. When the boot is on the other foot is always a good time to pontificate...again, that is a personal choice, one can continue to be inconsistent, which is also one's birthright.
For me, the vayatherichal moans were a good source of amusement and they continue to be.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 06:07 PM
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naanum kadandha 2-3 pagesaiyum padichuttEn. suththamA puriyalai
I refeat, aaga moththam yaarum padam paakura maadhiri theriyalai
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:10 PM
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padam innum 3 vAram OdinA dhAn nAn pArkka mudiyin...next 2 weekends out of town on business
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From: venkkiram
on 30th November 2010 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
And your opinion about IR-Rajini and ARR-Rajini doesnt stand valid to me given the number of movies IR and ARR have worked for Rajini. IR oru 50 padathukku mEla paNNi irukkaar but ARR ? If that is your opinion you very well have the right to hold it but there is no need to drag Rajini's audio launch speech to support your argument. And there's absolutely no reason for you to bring up this matter here.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Ia m disappointed that people like app engine, SKV, Vivs aren't doing this sort of moaning
வினையூக்கியா Plum இருக்கும்போது குட்டையை குழப்பி மீன் பிடிக்கப் பார்க்கிறார் SKV.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
Roshan
And your opinion about IR-Rajini and ARR-Rajini doesnt stand valid to me given the number of movies IR and ARR have worked for Rajini. IR oru 50 padathukku mEla paNNi irukkaar but ARR ? If that is your opinion you very well have the right to hold it but there is no need to drag Rajini's audio launch speech to support your argument. And there's absolutely no reason for you to bring up this matter here.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Ia m disappointed that people like app engine, SKV, Vivs aren't doing this sort of moaning
வினையூக்கியா Plum இருக்கும்போது குட்டையை குழப்பி மீன் பிடிக்கப் பார்க்கிறார் SKV.
idhai kUda paNNa mAttOmA? I am just interested in seeing how the reaction is when the boot is on the other foot. Important sociological experiment, you see!
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From: Ramakrishna
on 30th November 2010 06:24 PM
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From: Nerd
on 30th November 2010 06:26 PM
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Hallov, ennanga idhu. My comment was predominantly against Mysskin. I mean Raja has been using Oboe since the 80s (most of them from his synthesizer I thing) and BSO themselves performed in Thiruvaasagam. I am not sure if there was oboe usage in Hey Raam. And Mysskin went on saying 'this was the first time Raja has used oboe in his films' is it not? I remember reading this somewhere. And I think Jai is right - Oboe being used predominantly in this film looks like.
Idhukku edhukku Rajini, Kamal, Rajini-IR fights ellaam. Most fights are with Jai and adhellaam onniyum perisillai
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From: app_engine
on 30th November 2010 06:41 PM
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IIRC, there was an AV interview with a Japanese Oboe player (woman) who supposedly played for IR in a few movies. This was before TbI and link / content etc were posted in the hub or its previous tfmpage avatar.
So, Myskin talking about "first-time-oboe-by-IR-in-India-etc" is nothing but publicity hype
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:44 PM
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So, Myskin talking about "first-time-oboe-by-IR-in-India-etc" is nothing but publicity hype
idhaiyellAM nIngaLE sollittA appuram "edhirkatchikAranukku" enna vElai?
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From: app_engine
on 30th November 2010 06:45 PM
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dig
There was a KH-RK comparison in music-extract done by IR on some stage (Veera function?).
The content was mostly about pizhidhal v/s non-pizhidhal and had nothing to do with "taste". So, peace!
IMO, IR's songs had been equally great for both actors (and Mohan and Ramarajan and Karthik and Sivakumar and Murali and Vijayakanth and...). So, peace again!!
end-dig
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:49 PM
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app, nInga unga listla sathyaraj and Prabhuvai miss paNNinadhai, aNnan groucho sArbAga vanmaiyAga kaNdikkirEn
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From: app_engine
on 30th November 2010 06:50 PM
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Plum
லிஸ்ட் ரொம்ப நீளமுங்க
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From: Nerd
on 30th November 2010 06:52 PM
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Rajinikku meesic theriyaadhu, OK agreed. But one should give him some points for inspiring Raja sir to "Ennulle Ennulle" which IMO is as good as any song he has composed for a Kamal (scripted/directed) movie.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 06:53 PM
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venkiraam, iam vegetarian, meen pidikka ellaam theiryaathunga!!
P_R, en post further eppadi explain panrathunnu enakke puriyala!!
but vambu ethuvum illainnu ellorum nambunga pilees
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:53 PM
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adhellAm enakku theriyAdhu. 80's herroes-nu varrachE epdi Prabhu and satyaraj-ai miss paNNalAm? modhalla add paNNunga.
Add paNNappuram Rajkiran, Suresh ivangaLai ellAm En miss paNNinInganu saNdaikku varrEn
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 06:55 PM
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only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Rajinikku meesic theriyaadhu, OK agreed. But one should give him some points for inspiring Raja sir to "Ennulle Ennulle" which IMO is as good as any song he has composed for a Kamal (scripted/directed) movie.
rajinikku theriyaathungratha vida aarvam illai enbathu en karuthu. but inspite of that, 30 varusham palathayum kettiruppaaru, paarthiruppaaru, Valli vida romba nalla script kooda avaridam irukkalaam, which means he has the ability to induce the MD to get a good tune, illeengaLaa!
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From: raghavendran
on 30th November 2010 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
padam innum 3 vAram OdinA dhAn nAn pArkka mudiyin...next 2 weekends out of town on business

remba kashtam...indha varamneraya padam varudhu..release aanadhe limited screens dhane..
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From: Nerd
on 30th November 2010 06:59 PM
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saridhaanung sakala. Ithudan idhai mudithukkolvomaaga.
KJY is splendid in Onnukkonnu. I can imagine MadhuB singing it - would have been less poignant. Sriram P? Nalla velai paadalai.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 30th November 2010 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
saridhaanung sakala. Ithudan idhai mudithukkolvomaaga.
KJY is splendid in Onnukkonnu. I can imagine MadhuB singing it - would have been less poignant. Sriram P? Nalla velai paadalai.
idhai dhAnga nAnum sonnEn. Bias-nu diagnosis paNNittAr Dr.Venkkiram. Welcome to the club
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
adhAn, varalARRu nigazhvugaLai mIndum ninavu padutharEn.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 30th November 2010 07:04 PM
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Flau, ennamaa try panreenga! usuppi vidrathula ungalukku docterate kodukkalaam
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From: raghavendran
on 30th November 2010 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
"thevai illama"---ulla poondhu kalaichadhu pathidhan MADDY sonnarunu nenaikiren...jai andha madhiri seyyala
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From: Ramakrishna
on 30th November 2010 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
adhAn, varalARRu nigazhvugaLai mIndum ninavu padutharEn.
Ok, Anban, Jai and PR... mindla vechukkurom
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
adhAn, varalARRu nigazhvugaLai mIndum ninavu padutharEn.
Ok, Anban, Jai and PR... mindla vechukkurom
vechukunga. varalAru romba mukkiyam.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
"thevai illama"---ulla poondhu kalaichadhu pathidhan MADDY sonnarunu nenaikiren...
jai andha madhiri seyyala
apdillAm mannichu vudAdhInga. nemba nALA Manirathnathai kuRi vechu thAkki kitturukkAr
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri
"rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
adhAn, varalARRu nigazhvugaLai mIndum ninavu padutharEn.
Ok, Anban, Jai and PR... mindla vechukkurom

Plum, Anban-a neenga dhaan nalla damage panreenga

.......i dunno, if anyone made any comment on PR or Jaiganes in VTV or Ravanan threats.......the least of all, calling them vaitherichal - yaarayo solreenga aaana yaarunnu puriyala.........aaana andha aalu AR fan-nnu "assume" (as usual) panni, motha group-kkum accusation adikreenga........never mind - sometimes, being AR fan is more important than anything else.....
btw, signature, moderator arajagam etc - sathyama enakku puriyala, enna illainnu nenachhu vittudren

...........
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From: raghavendran
on 30th November 2010 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
"thevai illama"---ulla poondhu kalaichadhu pathidhan MADDY sonnarunu nenaikiren...
jai andha madhiri seyyala
apdillAm mannichu vudAdhInga. nemba nALA Manirathnathai kuRi vechu thAkki kitturukkAr
ippo theriyudhu neenga epdi 10000 posts reach panninganu.. :P
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From: jaiganes
on 30th November 2010 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Hallov, ennanga idhu. My comment was predominantly against Mysskin. I mean Raja has been using Oboe since the 80s (most of them from his synthesizer I thing) and BSO themselves performed in Thiruvaasagam. I am not sure if there was oboe usage in Hey Raam. And Mysskin went on saying 'this was the first time Raja has used oboe in his films' is it not? I remember reading this somewhere. And I think Jai is right - Oboe being used predominantly in this film looks like.
Idhukku edhukku Rajini, Kamal, Rajini-IR fights ellaam. Most fights are with Jai and adhellaam onniyum perisillai

We have to bear in mind that all the above mentioned works had a full fledged orchestra where oboe was also one element.
In Nandhalala's case, oboe, flute and violin have played a central role and of that oboe's choice is definitely something to be probed considering it is a Shehnai like instrument (Shehnai and Nadhaswaram are traditionally used only in rare occassions - all contextual in Indian films). I will give the benefit of doubt to Myskin and appreciate if we can discuss it further - for there has been some noise in IR forum about IR asking for these "players" from Hungary consistently.
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From: P_R
on 30th November 2010 07:29 PM
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Charlie Kaufman anRE sonnAr: "I would be the only screenwriter who plays the oboe"
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From: jaiganes
on 30th November 2010 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
Plum
only troublemaker in VTV/Ravanan threads were Anban which he is for all ARR movies..........
accusations were thrown at jai also in VTV/Ravanan threats. At one stage, namma moderator saar Feeyaar mEla kUda archanai vizhundhudhunnu nenaikkaREn.
ippo enna athuku?
oNNum illai, varalARrula padhivu paNdrOm. Only Anbanai dhAn target paNNinomnA, given Anban's reputation, nAnga ellAm "nallavanga" ; Anban mAdhiri "rowdies"-ai dhAn target paNNuvoMnu samALikkarA mAdhiri irundhudhu.
adhAn, varalARRu nigazhvugaLai mIndum ninavu padutharEn.
Ok, Anban, Jai and PR... mindla vechukkurom
Ayyo enakku bayamaa irukkE!!
Polees Polees!!!
j/k apart - Plumji - vambu nnu oru thiri open panni anga pathavaikkalaame...
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From: Anban
on 30th November 2010 07:37 PM
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digression going on over time..
enakku Rowdies-nu vera peru kodukuraanga..
Maniratnam-a enna paaraattavaa mudiyum??
naan VTV padatha damage pannave illa.. release aavarathukku munnnaadi some issues.. avvalavu thaan..
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:43 PM
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Vambu thread dhAnE - openiduvOm. But endha sectionla?
Maddy, i dont see it as arr fans, rajini fans etc. My target is
1) Humility mafia - unfortunately or fortunately, rahman is someone behind whom such people hide behind and shoot. Obviously, humility mafianess of such people has got nothing to do with their rahman fanness. Idhula vm fans taking recourse to rahman to beat IR with humility stick in the guise of rahman fans-um adakkam(i think you know what i mean there)
2. Vayatherichal accusation mafia - this is not limited to any set of fans. Even karthi fans accused opponents of vayatherichal

.
The only problem is if they happen to be rahman fans, i have to be measured because attacking them can be taken as (and has been tajen as) attack on rahman
So i have decided to be offensive and attack both mafias irregardless. As long as you dont take that as attack against rahman i am fine. For example, thambi ramakrishna dhum katta thEvaiyE illai. He is with me on anti-humility
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From: jaiganes
on 30th November 2010 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Vambu thread dhAnE - openiduvOm. But endha sectionla?
Maddy, i dont see it as arr fans, rajini fans etc. My target is
1) Humility mafia - unfortunately or fortunately, rahman is someone behind whom such people hide behind and shoot. Obviously, humility mafianess of such people has got nothing to do with their rahman fanness. Idhula vm fans taking recourse to rahman to beat IR with humility stick in the guise of rahman fans-um adakkam(i think you know what i mean there)
2. Vayatherichal accusation mafia - this is not limited to any set of fans. Even karthi fans accused opponents of vayatherichal

.
The only problem is if they happen to be rahman fans, i have to be measured because attacking them can be taken as (and has been tajen as) attack on rahman
So i have decided to be offensive and attack both mafias irregardless. As long as you dont take that as attack against rahman i am fine. For example, thambi ramakrishna dhum katta thEvaiyE illai. He is with me on anti-humility
poAttachu poAttachu -
http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=15089
naarayanaa naarayanaa.
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 07:48 PM
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Anban, rowdiesa,u nAn dhAn sonnEn. Adhuvum quotes-la. VirumbinAlum virumbAttAlum, ungaLukku apdi oru image inga irukku. IdhukkellAm salasalakkura ALu nInga illainu dhAn dhairyamA openA pOttEn. Any problems?
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From: Anban
on 30th November 2010 07:50 PM
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illai :P inge entha ponnaiyum naan correct panna try pannalai.. so its ok..
Nallavanukku nallavan.. kettavanukku kettavan ..
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
1) Humility mafia - unfortunately or fortunately, rahman is someone behind whom such people hide behind and shoot. Obviously, humility mafianess of such people has got nothing to do with their rahman fanness. Idhula vm fans taking recourse to rahman to beat IR with humility stick in the guise of rahman fans-um adakkam(i think you know what i mean there)
2. Vayatherichal accusation mafia - this is not limited to any set of fans. Even karthi fans accused opponents of vayatherichal

.
humility mafia - enna oru coinage

...........adhuvum oru rendu peru dhaanga - i dont think many AR fans will argue for AR's humility in a public forum........breaking point for me, when some say AR's humility is made up and he is a actor, ingenuine etc type of accusations.........mathabadi, i think infact it is AR's humility is problem sometimes - i still remember vivasaayi saying AR deserves oscar for his humility which is a colossal insult to his talent.......

Originally Posted by
Plum
The only problem is if they happen to be rahman fans, i have to be measured because attacking them can be taken as (and has been tajen as) attack on rahman
idhuve measured attack-aa

........neenga IR fans-a ellam appreciate pannumbodhu leysa doubt varudhu.......nothing wrong in it but when u say u attack regardless of fan camps then it is slightly doubtful........anyways, continee

Originally Posted by
Plum
So i have decided to be offensive and attack both mafias irregardless. As long as you dont take that as attack against rahman i am fine. For example, thambi ramakrishna dhum katta thEvaiyE illai. He is with me on anti-humility
ennamo ponga, Anniyan range-kku poiteenga :P
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From: MADDY
on 30th November 2010 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Anban, rowdiesa,u nAn dhAn sonnEn. Adhuvum quotes-la. VirumbinAlum virumbAttAlum, ungaLukku apdi oru image inga irukku. IdhukkellAm salasalakkura ALu nInga illainu dhAn dhairyamA openA pOttEn. Any problems?
Dhanush to karunas in thiruda thirudi:
Karunas: ponnunga ellam ippadi thaan girls pera solli appangala yemathuraanga........
Dhanush:
ellam theriyudhu unakku
Anban, - as far as i know and talked to people, we dont like ur posts on AR songs and movies at all but nobody thinks of u anything like rowdy........its exaggeration to the core, i will confirm
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From: Plum
on 30th November 2010 08:42 PM
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Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
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From: jaiganes
on 30th November 2010 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
Plumji pradhu kudukareeyaLa?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 30th November 2010 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
மதுபால கிருஷ்ணன் அல்லது ஸ்ரீராம் பார்த்தசாரதிக்கு "ஒன்னுக்கொண்ணு.." பாடலை ராஜா கொடுத்திருக்கலாம் எனத் தோன்றுகிறது. பல இடங்களில் ஏசுதாஸின் குரல் மூப்பின் காரணமாக தழுதழுக்கிறது. அவருடைய உச்ச ஆண்டுகளில் இவர் இதே பாடலை பாடியிருந்தால் அதில் இருக்கும் சுவையே தனி. அண்ணா..இனி ஓய்வெடுத்துக்கொள்வதே ரசிகர்களுக்கும், உங்களுக்கும் நல்லது.
jesudasoda voice- which was hit by age, helped this song very well.
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From: app_engine
on 1st December 2010 12:15 AM
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ஆள வுடுங்கப்பா - ஜெமோ

Originally Posted by
Jeyamohan
இந்த விஷயத்தில் இருந்து நான் முற்றாக விலகிக் கொள்கிறேன். வந்து குவியும் கடிதங்கள் சோர்வூட்டுகின்றன. இது என்னுடைய இடமே அல்ல. எனக்கு படம் பிடித்திருந்தது. எழுதினேன். பொதுவாக எந்தப்படத்தைப்பற்றியும் எழுதுவதில்லை. இந்தப்படம் ஒரு தொடக்கமாக அமையுமோ என்ற எண்ணம் எழுதச்செய்தது. அவ்வளவே. இனிமேல் இல்லை.போதுமா?
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நந்தலாலா போன்ற படத்தை பாராட்டுவது சினிமா வசனம் எழுதுபவர்களுக்கு தற்கொலை போன்றது. பாராட்டியவர்கள் சினிமா வசனம் எழுதுபவர்கள் மட்டும் அல்ல.
சினிமாவம்பே நம்மவர்களுக்கு லட்டு. அதிலும் சொந்தவாழ்க்கையில் அனைத்து அயோக்கியத்தனங்களுக்கும் உறைவிடமானவர்கள் புகுந்து பிறரின் நேர்மையை வசைபாடி தங்கள் தோல்வியுணர்ச்சியையும் வன்மத்தையும் தீர்க்க வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கையில் விடுவார்களா என்ன?
நான் விலகிக்கொள்கிறேன். இனிமேல் நந்தலாலா பற்றி மூச்சே இல்லை
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From: app_engine
on 1st December 2010 12:55 AM
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For those curious about the oboe thingy, an
old TFMpage review for the IR album, Time, by composer & DFer D Srikanth:

Originally Posted by
Srikanth D
6. Neram pirthu; I would say this the best song from raja in past 5 years. Simply a great score, I love playing it on the keyboard each and every part, I enjoying it every time I play it. I posted this some time ago, the songs moves like a feature that falls from a height, we do not know which direction it will move next, so smooth, reminds of old MSV's song from poikal kudurai. Msv's song did not have so much chromatic scaling, this has many parts in chromatic scale. Oboe, cello, double bass, violas, violins, piano --- every classical instrument we know, (I heard even French horn and brass) has a part in this song, and basically set in G, moves around wonderfully, Sujatha renders it with a great feel. (9.5/10)
see
this post by the same person also :
From: fan (@ 216.160.72.69) on: Thu Nov 30 01:11:49 EST 2000
thanks for your comments,
Naveen: Jumping to 7th is MSV kind of change not arr's. secondly, matuvandi makes "jal jal" sound only, how can i add 'click click', thats why i used the sound
Swamiji; did you note the sangathee's in pallavi. (especially the last bar of the pallavi in flute)
oboe and flute is IR's trademark, I avoided it wantedly.I use flute and clarinet for a change.
Good i am learning a lot from you guys...
I have added another song, this is a tune/arrangement for bharathi's agni kunjondru kaden, let me know how it sounds.
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From: app_engine
on 1st December 2010 01:10 AM
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some more medicine to cure the Mysskin-Oboe hype
Again, courtesy Srikanth :
From: Analog (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Fri Mar 2 10:53:55 EST 2001
kiru:
Digression:
I am interested in Indie films. Yesterday I watched "You can cound on me". I found couple of interesting things in the title card. There is a guy listed under Music Editor. Do we have such editors in TF too? If yes, what do they do exactly? Another interesting thing is they have used the instrument "Oboe" for the background score. I read some time back IR used Oboe played by some white female. God only knows what happened to that album.
From: comment (@ 63.226.194.39) on: Fri Mar 2 11:26:28 EST 2001
many ir songs have oboe scores., he has used it well in many bgm scores.
btw:
God only knows what happened to that album.
now i see why people call IR god..
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From: Analog (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Fri Mar 2 11:44:23 EST 2001
comment:
many ir songs have oboe scores
If IR used it so often, then why such a big deal about using it in that album? Am I missing something here or what? I believe it's one of the oldest instruments and specially used for that
album.
From: comment (@ 63.226.194.39) on: Fri Mar 2 12:13:07 EST 2001
analog, ir has used oboe before,
this time it was played one of the best oboe player in the world. thats all about it.
From: Analog (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Fri Mar 2 12:23:29 EST 2001
comment:
Got it, thanks.
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From: app_engine
on 1st December 2010 01:35 AM
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dig -
last quote on IR's oboe - this one by present hubber kiru in 2003 (rarely posts nowadays in IR forum) :

Originally Posted by
kiru
4) Sound engineering - IR's style has been well-executed in so many songs in 80s,90s. He does an ambient/acoustic arrangment with vocals upfront and the music behind (the opposite of current trend). ninaivellam nithya, geethanjali earlier and many 90s films have very good recording. But this does not register on the audience. So he might have developed an indifference. He is not as crazy about sounds as the structure of the compositions, even though he might collect musical instruments or fly a person from Japan to play a single instrument (oboe).
I am also told he charges separately for recording costs. So if you bear the extra costs of hiring an orchestra, you will get real sounds (like in enna solli pAduvatho) or you will get the keyboard like in ramana (probably they spent all the money on rest of the movie production). People like Mani ratnam (dhalapathy), Mohan lal (Guru) have spent more and gotten better sound. These movies reflect the sound IR likes (and may not be in consensus with the audience's taste).
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From: venkkiram
on 1st December 2010 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
ஷாஜி என்னிடம் இளையராஜாவின் பின்னணி இசை சர்வதேசத்தரம் கொண்டதாக, மனதை உலுக்குவதாக இருப்பதாகத்தான் சொன்னார். அதேசமயம் கடைசியில் பாடல் வருவதும்,
சில இடங்களில் இசை மேலே ஏறி ஒலிப்பதும் தனக்கு கொஞ்சம் மிகையாக தெரிவதாகச் சொன்னார்.
நான் அவருக்கு படத்தின் ஒலிக்கலவையின்போது இயக்குநர்தான் அதை முடிவுசெய்கிறார் என்று விளக்கினேன். பின்னணி இசை எந்த அளவுக்கு ஒலிக்கவேண்டும், எங்கே அமைதியாகவேண்டும், எங்கே ஒலிவிளைவுகள் மேலே எழ வேண்டும், எங்கே சூழல் ஒலிகள் கேட்கவேண்டும், எங்கே வசனம் ஒலிக்கவேண்டும் என்று இயக்குநரும் ஒலிநிபுணரும் சேர்ந்து தான் தீர்மானிக்கிறார்கள். பின்னணி இசை பல படிகள் முன்னரே அளிக்கப்பட்டுவிடும்.
ஷாஜி அதை தொலைக்காட்சியிலும் சொல்லியிருக்கிறார். அவர் எவரிடமும் மாற்றுக்கருத்து எதையும் சொல்லவில்லை என்றும், தவறான முறையில் தன் கூற்று கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருப்பதை விலக்கிக்கொள்ள கேட்டிருப்பதாகவும் சொன்னார்
பின்னணி இசையின் ஒலி அளவைப் பற்றிய ஷாஜியின் விமர்சனத்தோடு ஒத்துப் போகிறேன். எனக்கு நந்தலாலா மட்டுமல்ல.. ஹேராமிலும் இதே நிலைமைதான். பின்னணி இசை என்பது பாத்திரங்கள் எழுப்பும் ஒலி அளவைட பாதியளவு குறைந்திருக்க வேண்டும். மெல்லிய நீரோடை போல. இப்படி ஓங்கி ஒலிப்பது ஒரு விதத்தில் "இங்க பார் என் இசையை! எப்படியிருக்கு பார்!" போன்ற திணிப்பிற்கு சமம்.. இது ஜெமோ சொல்வது போல ராஜாவின் கட்டுப்பாட்டில் இல்லையென்றால் தவறு இயக்குனர் மேல் தான். ஆனால் இது ஏதோ நந்தலாலாவில் மட்டும் நிகழ்வதல்ல.
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From: jaiganes
on 1st December 2010 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
app_engine
ஷாஜி என்னிடம் இளையராஜாவின் பின்னணி இசை சர்வதேசத்தரம் கொண்டதாக, மனதை உலுக்குவதாக இருப்பதாகத்தான் சொன்னார். அதேசமயம் கடைசியில் பாடல் வருவதும்,
சில இடங்களில் இசை மேலே ஏறி ஒலிப்பதும் தனக்கு கொஞ்சம் மிகையாக தெரிவதாகச் சொன்னார்.
நான் அவருக்கு படத்தின் ஒலிக்கலவையின்போது இயக்குநர்தான் அதை முடிவுசெய்கிறார் என்று விளக்கினேன். பின்னணி இசை எந்த அளவுக்கு ஒலிக்கவேண்டும், எங்கே அமைதியாகவேண்டும், எங்கே ஒலிவிளைவுகள் மேலே எழ வேண்டும், எங்கே சூழல் ஒலிகள் கேட்கவேண்டும், எங்கே வசனம் ஒலிக்கவேண்டும் என்று இயக்குநரும் ஒலிநிபுணரும் சேர்ந்து தான் தீர்மானிக்கிறார்கள். பின்னணி இசை பல படிகள் முன்னரே அளிக்கப்பட்டுவிடும்.
ஷாஜி அதை தொலைக்காட்சியிலும் சொல்லியிருக்கிறார். அவர் எவரிடமும் மாற்றுக்கருத்து எதையும் சொல்லவில்லை என்றும், தவறான முறையில் தன் கூற்று கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருப்பதை விலக்கிக்கொள்ள கேட்டிருப்பதாகவும் சொன்னார்
பின்னணி இசையின் ஒலி அளவைப் பற்றிய ஷாஜியின் விமர்சனத்தோடு ஒத்துப் போகிறேன். எனக்கு நந்தலாலா மட்டுமல்ல.. ஹேராமிலும் இதே நிலைமைதான். பின்னணி இசை என்பது பாத்திரங்கள் எழுப்பும் ஒலி அளவைட பாதியளவு குறைந்திருக்க வேண்டும். மெல்லிய நீரோடை போல. இப்படி ஓங்கி ஒலிப்பது ஒரு விதத்தில் "இங்க பார் என் இசையை! எப்படியிருக்கு பார்!" போன்ற திணிப்பிற்கு சமம்.. இது ஜெமோ சொல்வது போல ராஜாவின் கட்டுப்பாட்டில் இல்லையென்றால் தவறு இயக்குனர் மேல் தான். ஆனால் இது ஏதோ நந்தலாலாவில் மட்டும் நிகழ்வதல்ல.
Idhu enakku "Erichchal Yaerpaduththum karuththu".
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From: kumarsr
on 1st December 2010 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Let me list some events! First padinga, appuram thittunga
1. Kamal50 event: raasaa quotes kamal as his ONLY sahotharan while others are nanbans and colleagues
2. Rajini daughter wedding: rajini personally didnt invite raasaa, paayaasamum oothalai
3. Enthiran audio launch: rajini spoke about ARR's egoless character, and quoted that manushan evlo saathichaalum ego irunthaal avan periyaaL illa( and on sidenote, note that rajini didnt utter even ONE single word about enthiran music, during that speech!)
i am listing randomly but looks like IR-Rajini friendship in some confusion and fusion is only btw rajini-arr.
i dont care about rajini's, or anyone's comment about one's ego, karvam and its personal comment. but rajini understands the art rasanai thingi much better, inspite of showing no deep interest personally in any single artform. i am talking about his kalai-rasanai speech at kamal-50 function(personally i am fan of this part of hsi speech and ponder/wonder about this many a times) that said,
if someone goes and asks rajini about his films music, he will surely place IR atleast 1 % above all other MD's who composed for his films. and thats ONLY about the music, not character or behavior
I am not sure about this, at least from the perspective of the last 10 years. He has been quite smart in his choice of MDs as he has been with his films, if smart = popular
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From: Nerd
on 1st December 2010 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by
kumarsr
I am not sure about this, at least from the perspective of the last 10 years. He has been quite smart in his choice of MDs as he has been with his films, if smart = popular
And which category does Vidyasagar fall into?
And GV Piragaas?
The most popular MDs in the last 10 years are Yuvan and HJ, apart from Rahman of course. And he has not used the first two.
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From: Anban
on 1st December 2010 04:26 AM
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Vidyasagar was popular then with quite a few commercial hits..
btw.. padam opening.. much better than expected (sunking without a trace),.. oralavu decent-aa irunthurukku pola.. in areas like Pondy, cuddalore..
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From: njv
on 1st December 2010 05:58 AM
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dig
Oops.. sorry. was looking for nandalala discussion
end-dig
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From: Plum
on 1st December 2010 07:00 AM
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njv,
nAnga evLO periya sosial matter pEsikitturukkOm?
(TV insert) ippO vandhu nandhalala, relevant discussionnuttu
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From: MADDY
on 1st December 2010 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
even kids at home are troublemakers adhukkaaga avangala rowdy-nna koopidrom

......seri vechhikonga......
me and ANban will take this offline :P
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From: Plum
on 1st December 2010 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
even kids at home are troublemakers adhukkaaga avangala rowdy-nna koopidrom

......seri vechhikonga......
me and ANban will take this offline :P
Bottom line, lot of contempt has been thrown at Anban. I am not going into the right or wrong of it - you might have your reasons for it but ippO ennamO Anban-ai nIngaLLAm oNNumE solLAdha mAdhiriyum nAn dhAn rowdy-nu soNNA mAdhiryum solRadhu ulaga magA nadippu mAdhiri dhAN enakku thONudhu
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From: Plum
on 1st December 2010 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
Thirumaran
SPOILERS
Saw the movie on Friday night show @ Mayajaal along with raajarasigan, hamid and Sathya. Ticket money was sponsored by raajarasigan.
SPOILERS END
3 pErula yAru ungaLa spoil paNNadhu?
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From: raajarasigan
on 1st December 2010 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
even kids at home are troublemakers adhukkaaga avangala rowdy-nna koopidrom

......seri vechhikonga......
me and ANban will take this offline :P
Bottom line, lot of contempt has been thrown at Anban. I am not going into the right or wrong of it - you might have your reasons for it but ippO ennamO Anban-ai nIngaLLAm oNNumE solLAdha mAdhiriyum nAn dhAn rowdy-nu soNNA mAdhiryum solRadhu ulaga magA nadippu mAdhiri dhAN enakku thONudhu
Where is Anban? enga poyitteenga... ungala patthithan pesittirukkaanga..
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From: VJerry
on 1st December 2010 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
even kids at home are troublemakers adhukkaaga avangala rowdy-nna koopidrom

......seri vechhikonga......
me and ANban will take this offline :P
Bottom line, lot of contempt has been thrown at Anban. I am not going into the right or wrong of it - you might have your reasons for it but ippO ennamO Anban-ai nIngaLLAm oNNumE solLAdha mAdhiriyum nAn dhAn rowdy-nu soNNA mAdhiryum solRadhu ulaga magA nadippu mAdhiri dhAN enakku thONudhu
Where is Anban? enga poyitteenga... ungala patthithan pesittirukkaanga..
Sattu puttunu theerpa solli intha panjayatha mudingappa....
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From: Anban
on 1st December 2010 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Plum

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
Allov, anbanai oru mAdhiri kuroopA sErndhu sitharichuttu Rowdiesngara word use paNNa mAttOmnu jagaa vAnginA epdi?
Innikku kUda anban mAdhiri troublemakerai dhAnE sonnOm mathavangaLai sollaliyEnnu dhAne argue paNNinga.
Even i have been accused of supporting anban, as if that is aiding crime and abettal act. AppO avarai oru rangeula dhAnE treat paNdringannu arththam? Adhukku oru pEru vechA mattum kuthamA?
even kids at home are troublemakers adhukkaaga avangala rowdy-nna koopidrom

......seri vechhikonga......
me and ANban will take this offline :P
Bottom line, lot of contempt has been thrown at Anban. I am not going into the right or wrong of it - you might have your reasons for it but ippO ennamO Anban-ai nIngaLLAm oNNumE solLAdha mAdhiriyum nAn dhAn rowdy-nu soNNA mAdhiryum solRadhu ulaga magA nadippu mAdhiri dhAN enakku thONudhu
Where is Anban? enga poyitteenga... ungala patthithan pesittirukkaanga..
mokkaiyyaa irukku ivanunga discussion... padatha pathi pesungappaa..
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From: raajarasigan
on 1st December 2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
mokkaiyyaa irukku ivanunga discussion... padatha pathi pesungappaa..

Plum sonnathu unmaithan polirukku
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 1st December 2010 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Anban
mokkaiyyaa irukku ivanunga discussion... padatha pathi pesungappaa..

Plum sonnathu unmaithan polirukku

Padatthai paarthavanga yellaam silent-ah irukkaanga.. Nobody has given a full-fleged revee
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From: VJerry
on 1st December 2010 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Anban
mokkaiyyaa irukku ivanunga discussion... padatha pathi pesungappaa..

Plum sonnathu unmaithan polirukku

Padatthai paarthavanga yellaam silent-ah irukkaanga.. Nobody has given a full-fleged revee

I din't like the movie as a whole. Only a very few parts I liked. Music doesn't create any impact on me.
Myskin's acting reminded Narain and the kuruvi character of Anjathey. Few places couldn't hear what he says.
The film had a sad tone throughout .
Full review can be given after few more viewings. I am not ready to watch is sooner.
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 1st December 2010 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
VJerry

Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
Anban
mokkaiyyaa irukku ivanunga discussion... padatha pathi pesungappaa..

Plum sonnathu unmaithan polirukku

Padatthai paarthavanga yellaam silent-ah irukkaanga.. Nobody has given a full-fleged revee

I din't like the movie as a whole. Only a very few parts I liked. Music doesn't create any impact on me.
Myskin's acting reminded Narain and the kuruvi character of Anjathey. Few places couldn't hear what he says.
The film had a sad tone throughout .
Full review can be given after few more viewings. I am not ready to watch is sooner.
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From: venkkiram
on 2nd December 2010 08:27 AM
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புத்திசுவாதினமற்ற பாத்திரங்களுக்கு கண்கள் வழி உணர்வினை வெளிப்படுத்துதல் ரொம்ப முக்கியம். அது மிஷ்கினுக்கு கை கொடுத்திருக்கிறது. தன்னோடு வாழ்கின்ற சக மனிதன் இறந்து, சடலத்தை எடுத்துச் செல்லும் போது, விழிகளாலேயே ஒரு பய உணர்வை வெளிப்படுத்தும் காட்சியிலேயே பார்ப்போரின் மனதில் சம்மணமிட்டு உட்கார்ந்து விடுகிறார்.
நமது வாழ்வில் பல புத்திசுவாதீனமற்ற மக்களை கடந்து செல்கிறோம். அவர்களது செயல்பாடுகளில் ஒன்று இரண்டாவது பாஸ்கர் சக்தியிடம் காண வைத்துவிடுகிறது. அந்த குணங்களை, அதையொட்டிய பொதுப்புத்திகளை படம் முழுவதும் ஒரு குறுகிய வட்டத்திற்குள் வரையறுப்பதில் மிஷ்கின் சிரத்தையோடு செயல்பட்டிருக்கிறார் என்று தோன்றுகிறது. ஒரு சில இடங்களில் அத்துமீறினாலும், பாத்திரம் கூடுமானவரை சம தளத்திலேயே பயணிக்கிறது. பாராட்டுக்கள்!
தோழனாய் வரும் அகியும் தன்னை பழிச்சொல்லால் குத்தும்போது அத்தனை கோபத்தையும் அடக்கி வைத்து, அன்புக்காக கட்டுப்பட்டு, சத்தம் போட்டு அகியிடம் பொருமும் இடம் மிகவும் அருமை.
மொத்தத்தில் மிஷ்கின் தான் ஏற்று நடித்த பாத்திரத்தை சிறப்பாகவே செய்திருக்கிறார். ஏமாற்றவில்லை.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 08:20 PM
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saw movie! impressed with BGM at lot of places but most of them didnt register in mind.
பல இடங்களில் மெலிதாய் அழுதேன்! ராஜா செண்டிமெண்ட்? கதாபாத்திரங்கள் மேல் இயக்குனர் உண்டாக்கின பரிதாபம்? அம்மா செண்டிமெண்ட்? இசை? புரியல!! ஆனாலும் இந்த பீலிங் நல்லா இருந்தது.
படம் முழுக்க பல இடங்களில் விஷயம் காட்சிகளின் வாயுளாக சொல்லப்படுகின்றன. சபாஷ் மிஸ்கின்!! தமிழுக்கு இன்னொரு உருப்படியான இயக்குனர்.
அந்த மலைப்பாம்பு வரும் காட்சி - உக்காந்து யோசித்ஹ்டால் எனக்கு பல அர்த்தங்கள் புரிகிறது -
தூய்மையான ஆன்மாக்கள் எனவே அது ஒன்றும் செய்யவில்லை
தோலுரிக்கிறது - முந்தைய மழை காட்சி
அது தன் வேலையை செய்கிறது, இவர்கள் தம் வேலையை செய்கிறார்கள், அவ்வளவே, ஜஸ்ட் கடந்து போகிறது என்று கொள்க
அதே போல் அந்த மேரி மாதா காட்சி
சப்பான் படம் காப்பி என்போர் இங்கு பார்க்க -
http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2010/12/blog-post.html
பல பதிவர்கள் சொன்னதைப்போல் நானும் மிஷ்கின் கையை பிடித்து அழகான கூழாங்கற்கள் பரிசளிக்க ஆசைப்படுகிறேன்
இசை பற்றி-
பாடல் கள் குறைவாகவே பயன்பட்டிருந்தது. அதுவே போதும். தாலாட்டு கேட்க நானும், என்று ராசா ஆரம்பிக்க, கண்ணீரை கட்டுப்படுத்தமுடியவில்லை
நண்பர் சுரேஷ் எல்லா பின்னணி இசையையும் தரவிறக்க சுட்டி வைத்திருக்கிறார். மீண்டும் அதை பல முறை கேட்ட பின்னர், ராஜா இன்னும் பல பல விஷயங்கள் செய்திருக்கலாம், கொஞ்சம் ரொம்பவே மிஸ் பண்ணிட்டார் என்றே தோன்றுகிறது. காரணம், பல இடங்களில் காட்சி மூலம் கதை செல்கிறது. வசனம் பல இடங்களில் இல்லை.
பல இடங்களில் பின்னணி இசை ஒரு கருவியில் வாசிக்கப்படாமல் பல கோர்வை உள்ளது. இதை தவிர்த்து ஒரு டியூன் ஒரு கருவி என்று நச்சென்று தந்திருக்கலாமோ என்று தோன்றுகிறது.
படம் முழுக்க வரும் மைய இசை இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் நன்றாக இருந்திருக்கலாம் என்று படுகிறது.
எது எப்படியோ, பல இடங்களில் என் கண்களில் கண்ணீர். அதுவே போதும். ஆயிரம் பாராட்டுப்பதிவுகள் தரும் நெகிழ்ச்சியை ஒரு சொட்டு கண்ணீர் தந்தது
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 08:28 PM
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கமலுடன் இணைய தகுதியுள்ள இயக்குனராகவே எனக்கு மிஸ்கின் படுகிறார். பல இடங்களில் அன்பே சிவம் படத்திற்கு ஒத்த பீலிங்!! பெரிய படங்களுக்கு மத்தியில் ஒரு quickie பண்ணலாம். ஆனால் நம்மாளுக்கு 15 மாதங்கள் குறைவாக quickie பண்ண முடியாது!!
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From: venkkiram
on 2nd December 2010 08:36 PM
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சகல பார்த்தாகிவிட்டது.. பிள்ளையார் சுழி போட்டு விட்டீர்கள். இனி இத்திரி கலைகட்டும் என நம்புகிறேன்.
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From: Nerd
on 2nd December 2010 08:59 PM
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Vikatan 45/100
சினிமா விமர்சனம் - நந்தலாலா
மனநோய் விடுதியில் சேர்த்துவிட்ட பிறகு, தன்னைச் சந்திக்க வராத அம்மாவைக் 'கன்னத்தில் அறைய வேண்டும்’ என்று கோபத்தோடு கிளம்புகிறார் ஒரு மன நோயாளி. புகைப்படத்தில் மட்டுமே தன்னைப் பார்த்துச் சிரிக்கும் தாயைச் சந்தித்து 'கன்னத்தில் முத்தமிட வேண்டும்’ என்று கிளம்புகிறான் ஒரு சிறுவன். இருவரும் ஒரு புள்ளியில் இணைந்து தொடரும் பயணத்தின் தாலாட்டுதான் 'நந்தலாலா’!
மன நோயாளியாக மிஷ்கின் (நடிப்பில் அறிமுகம்!). கண் தெரியாத பாட்டியிடம் வளரும் சிறுவனாக அஸ்வத் ராம் (அறிமுகம்). இந்த அறிமுக நடிகர்கள் இணைந்து, தமிழ் சினிமாவின் ஒரு முக்கியப் படைப்பை இரண்டரை மணி நேரமும் தோளில் தாங்குகிறார்கள். தங்கள் பயணத்தின்போது இவர்கள் பல்வேறு மனிதர்களைச் சந்திக்கிறார்கள். அவர்களில் ஒருவராகிய பாலியல் தொழிலாளி ஸ்னிக்தாவும் அவர்களின் பயணத்தில் இணைகிறார். அஸ்வத்தும் மிஷ்கினும் தங்கள் அம்மாக்களைச் சந்தித்தார்களா, அவர்களது ஆசைகள் நிறைவேறினவா என்பதைக் கவிதையாக மனதில் புகுத்துகிறது படம்.
ஜப்பானியத் திரைப்படமான 'கிக்குஜிரோ’ கதையின் 'ஸ்கெட்ச்'சை எடுத்துக்கொண்டு 'நந்த லாலா' படைத்த மிஷ்கின், டைட்டிலில் 'கதை’ என்று தன் பெயரைப் போட்டுக்கொண்டது சரியா? இன்ஸ்பிரேஷனுக்கு கிரெடிட் தர மறுப்பது என்ன நியாயம்? கடுமையான கண்டனங்கள் மிஷ்கின்!
இருந்தாலும், ஒரிஜினலின் காட்சிகளுக்கு இணையான காட்சிகளை நமக்கான கலாசாரப் பின்னணியில் உருவாக்கி, மண் மணக்கிற மனிதர்களின் உணர்வுகளை அழகாகப் படம் பிடித்து, ஓர் இனிய பயண அனுபவம் ஏற்படுத்திய வகையில் மிஷ்கினுக்கு வெயிட்டான வாழ்த்துக்கள்!
தீதும் நன்றும் தீண்டாத மன நோயாளியாக மிஷ்கின். 'காசு கொடு’ என்று மற்றவர்களிடம் மிரட்டி வாங்குவது, 'இந்தா வெச்சுக்கோ’ என்று அவர்களிடமே வேறு காசைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுப்பது, சுவரில் ஒற்றை விரல்களால் கோடு போட்டுக்கொண்டே செல்வது, பட்டன் போட்டு பெல்ட் பிணைத்துக்கொள்ளக்கூடத் தெரியாமல் கைகளில் பேன்ட்டைப் பிடித்துக்கொண்டே அலைவதுமாக, மனநிலை அலைபாயும் ஒரு நபரைக் கண்ணாடிப் பிம்பமாகப் பிரதிபலிக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின்.
ஆட்டோ டிரைவர் தன்னை 'மென்ட்டலா?’ என்று கேட்டதற்காக அடித்துத் துவைப்பது, சாதி வன்மத்தால் பாலியல் பலாத்காரத்துக்கு உள்ளாகும் ஒரு பெண்ணைக் காப்பாற்றிய பிறகு, 'அண்ணே, நீங்க என்ன சாதிண்ணே?’ என்று அவள் கேட்க, 'மென்ட்டல்’ என்று பதில் சொல்வது, இறுதியில் அஸ்வத் ராமே தன்னை 'போடா மென்ட்டல்’ என்றுதிட்டிய உடன், உடைந்து நொறுங்குவது என்று மிஷ்கினின் நடிப்பில் அத்தனை அடர்த்தி.
படத்தின் இரண்டாவது நாயகன் இளையராஜாவின் இசை. ஆரம்பக் காட்சியில் சலசலக்கும் நீரோடையில் தொடங்கும் ராஜாவின் பின்னணி ஓசை, சின்னதொரு தண்ணீர்க் கீற்றாய், தூவானம் பொழியும் மெல்லிய மழைச் சாரலாக, குளிரின் மௌன மாக, பெய்யெனப் பெய்யும் மழையாகப் படம் முழுக்க நிரம்பித் ததும்புகிறது. மௌனத்தின் வலிமை உணர்த்த... ராஜாவின் பின்னணி இசையும் மறைந்திருந்து மகத்துவம் புரிகிறது.
சிறுவன் அஸ்வத் ராம் தாயன்புக்காகத் தவிக்கும் குழந்தையை அப்படியே திரையில் கொண்டுவருகிறான். பல இடங்களில் மனவளர்ச்சி இல்லாத மிஷ்கினைச் சமாளிக்கவும், சமாதானப் படுத்தவுமாக அவன் பேசுகிறபோது வெளிப்படுகிற 'மாடுலேஷன்'கள் அபாரம்! ஸ்னிக்தாவைத் தன் தாயாக ஏற்றுக்கொண்டு, முகம் முழுக்க முத்தம் கொடுக்கிற காட்சியில் அன்புக் கதகதப்புக்கான தன் தவிப்பையும் வேட்கையையும் அத்தனை அழகாகக்கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறான் அஸ்வத் ராம்.
காதலனால் ஏமாற்றப்பட்டு, பாலியல் தொழிலாளியாக மாறி, பிறகு தன் வாடிக்கையாளக் கிழவனால் துன்புறுத்தப்படும் அபலையாக ஸ்னிக்தா. வெற்றுப் பார்வையுடன் தான் ஏமாற்றப்பட்ட கதையை விவரிக் கும் காட்சியில் ஆச்சர்யப்படுத்துகிறார் ஸ்னிக்தா. 'முதல்ல எல்லாம் என் உடம்பு மட்டும்தான் நாறுச்சு, இப்போ, என் மனசும் நாறுது!’ என்ற வசனம், ஒரு பாலியல் தொழிலாளிக்குள் வன்முறையாகப் புகுத்தப்பட்ட மனக்காயத்தை பொளேரெனப் புரியவைக்கிறது.
பள்ளி மாணவி சைக்கிளில் இருந்து கீழே விழுந்தவுடன், மிஷ்கின் ஒரு குழந்தையின் பரிதவிப்போடு பாவாடையை விலக்கி காயத்தைப் பார்க்க முயல்வதும், அந்தப் பெண் பதிலுக்கு அதிர்ந்து அறைவதும், 'எச்சி தொட்டு வை. சரியாப்போகும்’ என்று மிஷ்கின் சொன்னவுடன், அந்த மாணவி உருகுவதும்... குட்டி ஹைக்கூ!
இரவிலும் கூலிங் கிளாஸ் அணிந்து வரும் லாரி டிரைவர்கள், ஸ்னிக்தாவைக் கடத்த முயலும் கிழவரின் விநோதமான சிவப்பு வண்டி, பீர் இளைஞர்களின் மஞ்சள் கலர் கார் ஆகியவை கதையில் இருந்து அந்நியப்பட்டு நிற்கின்றன.
எந்த கட்டத்திலான மனநோயின் பாதிப்பில் மிஷ்கின் இருக்கிறார் என்பதைச் சில காட்சிகளில் அவர் காட்டும் 'தெளிவும் முதிர்ச்சியும்' சற்றே குழப்பியடிக்கிறது. குறிப்பாக, தன் தாயை இறுதியில் கண்டுவிடுகிறபோது அவருக்கு ஏற்படுகிற அதிர்ச்சியும் அதைத் தொடரும் பரிதவிப்பான பாசப் பரிமாற்றமும்!
அஸ்வத் ராமின் பாட்டியாக வரும் கண் தெரியாத மூதாட்டி, லாரி ஹாரனைத் திருடியதால் மிஷ்கினை அடித்து உதைத்து, பிறகு நண்பனாகும் லாரி டிரைவர், கால்களை இழந்தாலும் தன்னம்பிக்கை இழக்காத மாற்றுத் திறனாளி, அவருக்கு
மருத்துவம் பார்க்கும் மாற்றுத் திறனாளி மருத்துவர், போதைப் பாதை உல்லாசப் பயணம் கிளம்பும் உற்சாக இளைஞர்கள், மிஷ்கினின் நடவடிக்கைகளால் கலவரமாகும் புதுமணத் தம்பதிகள், அஸ்வத் ராமின் ஆங்கிலத்தால் வாயடைத்து, பிறகு 'வயிறு வலிக்குது’ என்று அஸ்வத் சொன்னவுடன் 'ஸ்டொமெக் பெய்ன்?’ என்று கேட்கும் இன்ஸ்பெக்டர் என இயல்பாகக் கடக்கும் கதாபாத்திரங்கள் படம் முழுக்க உயிரோட்டம் நிரப்புகின்றன.
குபுக்கென இதயத்தைப் பொங்க வைப்பதையும், களுக்கெனச் சிரிக்க வைப்பதையும் கேமரா கோணங்களோடு கூட்டணி போட்டு வெகு சுலபமாக சாதித்திருக்கிறார் இயக்குநர். ஆரம்பக் காட்சி முதல் இறுதி வரை கல்லையும், மண்ணையும், கலங்கலான சேற்றுத் தண்ணீரையும்கூட கவிதை பாட வைத்துவிட்டார் ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் மகேஷ் முத்துசாமி.
விதவிதமான சாலைப் பயணத்தில் துவங்கி மாற்றுத் திறனாளியின் கெந்த லான ஓட்டம் வரையில் அதே ஏற்ற இறக்கங்களோடு மேடு பள்ளங்களில் கேமரா தொடர்வது தமிழ்த் திரைக்குப் புதிய பயண அனுபவம். சிற்சில இடங்களில் திரைக்கதை தொய்வை மறந்து படத்தோடு நம்மை ஒன்ற வைப்பதில் கேமராவுக்குப் பெரும் பங்கு.
தமிழ் சினிமாவின் மறக்க முடியாத பயண அனுபவம்... இந்த 'நந்தலாலா’!
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From: Anban
on 2nd December 2010 09:00 PM
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TR Anandha Vikatan-a asingamaa thittinathula thappe illai..
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From: venkkiram
on 2nd December 2010 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
TR Anandha Vikatan-a asingamaa thittinathula thappe illai..
நந்தலாலா எல்லாம் குறைந்த பட்சம் 60 மதிப்பெண்களை தட்டிச் செல்ல தகுதியான படம். இதற்கே 45 என்றால் ? சுத்தம்.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 09:18 PM
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asper today's TOI, in bangalore, uthamaputhiran running in 11 theatres, nagaram and myna in 5, itho kooda paravaalla, yaaru nadikkiranne theriyaatha kanimozhi nnu oru padam 5 theatres
but nandalaala not even 1 theatre, hosur itself, today noon show only 15 ppl! naarnia posters ready pannitrunthaainga. maybe nextweek thookiduvaanga
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From: Sanjeevi
on 2nd December 2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
Anban
TR Anandha Vikatan-a asingamaa thittinathula thappe illai..
நந்தலாலா எல்லாம் குறைந்த பட்சம் 60 மதிப்பெண்களை தட்டிச் செல்ல தகுதியான படம். இதற்கே 45 என்றால் ? சுத்தம்.
mmhukkum naanga SMS-ke ivvolothan koduthomakkum
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 09:25 PM
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their marks strategy is unknown. avangalukke theriyaathunnu nenaikkiren. seettu kulukki enna varutho athai potruvaanga pola
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From: thamiz
on 2nd December 2010 11:10 PM
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AV gave only 45 marks?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 11:12 PM
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http://www.thacinema.com/2010/11/blog-post_27.html
படம் முழுக்க நிறைய வெறுமைகளும், மௌனங்களுமே இருக்கிறது. கதாப்பாத்திரங்கள் வந்து போகிறார்கள், அவ்வளவே. எப்போதும் அன்பு மட்டுமே தேங்கி நிற்கிறது. சிலர் அதை கவனிக்கிறார்கள். சிலர் அதை கவனிக்காமல் செல்கிறார்கள். சிலர் கண்டுகொள்ளாமல் செல்கிறார்கள். சிலர் புறக்கணிக்கிறார்கள். மேலும் பல இடங்களில் தகவல்களை தராமல் கதாப்பாத்திரங்கள் வந்து போகிறார்கள். குறிப்பாக சிறுவனின் அம்மா, மிஷ்கினிடம் கதறும் காட்சியில் இசை மட்டுமே. எவ்வித வசனங்களும் எவ்வித தகவல்களும் இல்லை.
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இளையராஜாவின் இசைதான் அத்தனை காட்சிகளையும் நிரப்பிக்கொண்டேயிருக்கிறது எங்கும் விரவிக் கிடக்கும் காற்று போல. சில இடங்களில் அதுவும் கொஞ்சம் செயற்கைத்தனமாய் இருந்தாலும் மனதை உடைக்கும் உளியாய் ஏற்றுக்கொள்ள முடிகிறது. வெறும் காட்சி மட்டும் கொடுத்துவிடாத நெகிழ்ச்சியை, ராஜா வலிந்து கொடுக்கிறார். உடையத் துவங்குகிறோம் நாம்.
குறிப்பாக மிஷ்கின் தனது தாயை பல ஆண்டுகளுக்கு பின்புக் காணும்போது, அப்பாடலின் முதல் வரியை, ராஜாப் பாடத் துவங்குகிறார். உள்ளுக்குள் அனைத்தும் அப்படியே ஒரேகணத்தில் உடைந்து நொறுங்குகிறது. அதலபாதாளத்தில் வீழ்கிறோம். ராஜாவை இதற்காக பாராட்டவேண்டுமா அல்லது வேண்டாமா என்பதில் குழப்பம் மிஞ்சுகிறது.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 11:20 PM
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http://vedigundu.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_27.html
பலரும் பல விதமாக விமர்சனம் எழுதி இருந்தாலும்கூட படத்தின் ஒரு முக்கியமான காட்சியை பற்றி யாருமே சொல்லவில்லை. அதனால் அந்த ஒரே ஒரு காட்சியை பற்றி மட்டுமே இந்த விமர்சனம்.
ஸ்னிக்தா தான் எப்படி ஒரு விலைமாதுவாக மாறினார் என்பதை விளக்கிய பின்னர், அந்த கொட்டும் மழையில் அந்த பாழடைந்த ரோட்டோர கட்டிடத்தில் மிஸ்கின், சிறுவன் அஸ்வத்ராம், ஸ்னிக்தா, பைகர் பாய்ஸ் இருவர் என்று அனைவரும் தூங்கிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றனர். அந்த நாளில் நடைபெற்ற சம்பவங்கள் அனைத்துமே அவர்கள் வாழ்வில் பெருத்த மாற்றத்தை ஏற்படுத்தி விட்டுள்ள அந்த சூழலில், அனைவரும் உறங்கிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றனர். அவர்களின் தலையருகே அந்த கருவுற்ற மலைப்பாம்பானது மெல்ல இருளில் இருந்து ஊர்ந்து ஒரு சிறிய வழியின் ஊடே செல்கிறது. அந்த ஒரு காட்சிய ஓராயிரம் ஜென் கதைகளுக்கு மூலம்.
அவர்கள் இனிமேல் ஒரு புதிய பாதையில், புதிய வாழ்வை நோக்கி சொல்கிறார்கள் (அந்த சிறிய வழி + கருவுற்ற அந்த பாம்பு)
அவர்கள் அனைவருமே மறுபிறப்பு எடுக்கும் நிலையில் இருக்கின்றனர். (கருவுற்ற பாம்பு + மாற்றமடைந்த ஸ்னிக்தாவின் வாழ்க்கை, மாற வைத்ததால் மிஸ்கின் மற்றும் சிறுவனின் முதிர் நிலை)
அவர்களுக்கு வாழ்வில் ஒரு இரண்டாவது வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கிறது (ஒரு தாய் கருவுற்று தன வாரிசை ஈனும்போது அந்த வாரிசின் ஊடே தானே வந்ததாக ஒரு மனநிலையை அடைவார்கள். அந்த சூழலில் அந்த பாம்பு மறுபடியும் தான் வாழ்வதாக (இரண்டாவதாக) ஒரு நிலையை நோக்கி செல்கிறது. அதைப்போலவே அந்த மூன்று பாத்திரங்களுமே தங்களின் வாழ்வில் இரண்டாவது வாய்ப்பிற்காக காத்திருந்து அந்த கட்டத்திற்குள் நுழைகிறார்கள்).
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 11:22 PM
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பதிவுலகில் பலரும் பொங்கிக்கொண்டிருக்கிரார்கள். இங்கே நிறைய பேர் படம் பார்த்த மாதிரியே தெரியல
P_R, bala, did u guys seen the film?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 11:30 PM
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http://philosophyprabhakaran.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_27.html
எனக்குப் பிடித்த காட்சி
படத்தின் உயிரே அந்த காட்சிதான் என்ற காரணத்தினால் அதுபற்றி விவரிக்க விரும்பவில்லை. திரையில் பார்த்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள்.
முக்கியமாக “தாலாட்டு கேட்க நானும்...” என்று இளையராஜாவின் குரல் கேட்கும் நொடியில் கண்களில் இருந்து கண்ணீர் வழிந்தோடுவதை தடுக்க முடியவில்லை.
ரசிகன் தீர்ப்பு
படத்தின் முதல்பாதியில் ஒரு ஐந்தாறு காட்சிகளில் கண்ணீர் துளிர்த்தது. படத்தின் கடைசி இருபது நிமிடங்களில் கண்ணீர் தாரைத்தாரையாக என் கண்களில் இருந்து வழிந்துக்கொண்டிருந்தது. அந்த கடைசி இருபது நிமிடங்களுக்காகவே படத்தை பலமுறை பார்க்கலாம்.
நந்தலாலா – மறக்காம கர்சீப் எடுத்துட்டு போங்க
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 2nd December 2010 11:35 PM
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http://www.athishaonline.com/2010/11...post_9288.html
படத்தின் நாயகன் இளையராஜா. அவர் இசையமைத்த படங்களின் உச்சம் இது என்று நிச்சயம் கருதலாம். இளையராஜா இல்லாமல் இப்படத்தை ரசிக்க முடியுமா தெரியவில்லை. அம்மா என்றால் இளையராஜாவுக்கு கசக்குமா என்ன..
வெறியாட்டம் ஆடியிருக்கிறார் ராஜா. முழுக்க முழுக்க இளையராஜாவை நாயகனாக்கி அழகு பார்த்திருக்கிறார் மிஷ்கின். ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் பிண்ணனியில் ராஜாவின் குரலோ இசையோ வரும்போதெல்லாம் கண்களில் நீர்கசிவதை உங்களால் கட்டுப்படுத்தவே முடியாது. கதறி அழவைக்கிற உருக்கி வார்க்கிற இசை
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From: Sanjeevi
on 2nd December 2010 11:36 PM
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enakkum kanneerai kattupadutha mudiyavillai (muyanrum).
appuram Myskin said in a recent TV live, vellai manam ullavangallukku azhugai vanthudum saar
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From: vithagan
on 3rd December 2010 12:50 AM
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Kumudam Review
'எங்கம்மா கன்னத்துல அறை கொடுக்கணும்...’ என மனநல காப்பகத்திலிருந்து ஆவேசத்துடன் தப்பிக்கும் பாஸ்கரன். ‘எங்கம்மாவுக்கு முத்தம் கொடுக்கணும்..’ என தவிப்போடு கிளம்பும் சிறுவன் அகிலேஷ். இந்த இருவருக்கும் நடக்கும் சந்திப்பும் அதையொட்டிய நெடுஞ்சாலைப் பயணமும், விதவிதமான மனிதர்களுடன் ஏற்படும் அனுபவங்களும்தான் கதை.
ஜப்பானியப் படமான ‘கிகுஜிரோ’வின் தழுவல்தான் இந்த நந்தலாலா, சில கேரக்டர்களைத் தவிர.
முதலில் மிஷ்கின்... “யாரோ டி.வி.யை உடைச்சுட்டாங்க...’’ என முதல் காட்சியிலேயே மிகப் புத்திசாலித்தனமாக வார்டனிடம் சொல்லும் போது மனநலம் பாதித்தவருக்கான அறிகுறியே இல்லை. விழி பிதுங்குற மாதிரி முகத்தைக் குரூரமாக்கிக் காட்டுவதிலும், ‘மென்டலா’ என்று கேட்டவுடன் அவர் காட்டும் மூர்க்கத்திலும்,பையனிடம் கோபத்தைக் காட்ட முடியாமல் தவியாய் தவிக்கின்ற தவிப்பும் இவன் புத்திசாலியா...? புத்தி பிசகியவனா...? என்ற குழப்பம்தான் மிஞ்சுகிறது.
அந்தக் குட்டிப் பையன் வயதுக்கு மீறிய உடலசைவுகளையும் வசனத்தையும் வெளிப்படுத்துவது படு செயற்கை. போலீஸிடம் இருந்து தப்பிக்க படபடவென ஆங்கிலத்தில் பேசுவதும், அதற்கு அந்த போலீஸ்காரர் காட்டும் முக பாவனையும் ரசிக்க வைக்கிறது. அதேபோல இளநீர் திருடி மாட்டிக்கொண்டு தப்பித்து ஓடும் காட்சியில் இளநீர்க்காரருக்கே இளநீரை வெட்டிக் கொடுப்பதுமாக காட்சிகளை நகர்த்தியிருக்கும் விதம் சூப்பர்.
ஊனமுற்ற வாலிபர் கேரக்டர் செம டச்சிங். மருத்துவமனையில் சேர்த்த பின்பு அவனுக்குச் சிகிச்சையளித்த பெண் டாக்டரும் நொண்டிக் கொண்டே செல்வது விஷூவல் கவிதை.
தன் அம்மாவை அடிக்கக் கிளம்பிய மிஷ்கின், எதிர்பாரா விதமாக அந்தச் சிறுவனின் அம்மா நடத்தையைக் கண்டு செவிட்டில் அடிக்கும் காட்சியில் தியேட்டரில் செம கைதட்டல். ஸ்னிக்தாவுக்காக நடக்கும் சண்டை, ஸ்னிக்தா பேசும் செயற்கையான வசனங்கள் எல்லாமே போர்.
மகேஷ் முத்துசுவாமியின் கேமராதான் படத்துக்கு முக்கிய ஜீவன். ராஜாவின் பின்னணி இசையும் பாடல்களும் சிலிர்ப்பை உண்டு பண்ணுகிறது.வசனங்களே இல்லாமல் காட்சிகள் மூலம் கதை சொல்வதில் மிஷ்கின் நிறையவே மெனக்கெட்டிருப்பது புது முயற்சி. ஆனால், சராசரி ரசிகனின் சூழல், அவனின் மனநிலையை கருத்தில் கொள்ளாமல் ‘தமிழர்கள் நடித்த ஜப்பானியப் படம்’ போல இருப்பதால் சில இடங்களில் மனம் லயிக்கவில்லை என்பது நிஜம்.
Verdict : OK
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From: SoftSword
on 3rd December 2010 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
vithagan
Kumudam Review
'எங்கம்மா கன்னத்துல அறை கொடுக்கணும்...’ என மனநல காப்பகத்திலிருந்து ஆவேசத்துடன் தப்பிக்கும் பாஸ்கரன். ‘எங்கம்மாவுக்கு முத்தம் கொடுக்கணும்..’ என தவிப்போடு கிளம்பும் சிறுவன் அகிலேஷ். இந்த இருவருக்கும் நடக்கும் சந்திப்பும் அதையொட்டிய நெடுஞ்சாலைப் பயணமும், விதவிதமான மனிதர்களுடன் ஏற்படும் அனுபவங்களும்தான் கதை.
ஜப்பானியப் படமான ‘கிகுஜிரோ’வின் தழுவல்தான் இந்த நந்தலாலா, சில கேரக்டர்களைத் தவிர.
முதலில் மிஷ்கின்... “யாரோ டி.வி.யை உடைச்சுட்டாங்க...’’ என முதல் காட்சியிலேயே மிகப் புத்திசாலித்தனமாக வார்டனிடம் சொல்லும் போது மனநலம் பாதித்தவருக்கான அறிகுறியே இல்லை. விழி பிதுங்குற மாதிரி முகத்தைக் குரூரமாக்கிக் காட்டுவதிலும், ‘மென்டலா’ என்று கேட்டவுடன் அவர் காட்டும் மூர்க்கத்திலும்,பையனிடம் கோபத்தைக் காட்ட முடியாமல் தவியாய் தவிக்கின்ற தவிப்பும் இவன் புத்திசாலியா...? புத்தி பிசகியவனா...? என்ற குழப்பம்தான் மிஞ்சுகிறது.
அந்தக் குட்டிப் பையன் வயதுக்கு மீறிய உடலசைவுகளையும் வசனத்தையும் வெளிப்படுத்துவது படு செயற்கை. போலீஸிடம் இருந்து தப்பிக்க படபடவென ஆங்கிலத்தில் பேசுவதும், அதற்கு அந்த போலீஸ்காரர் காட்டும் முக பாவனையும் ரசிக்க வைக்கிறது. அதேபோல இளநீர் திருடி மாட்டிக்கொண்டு தப்பித்து ஓடும் காட்சியில் இளநீர்க்காரருக்கே இளநீரை வெட்டிக் கொடுப்பதுமாக காட்சிகளை நகர்த்தியிருக்கும் விதம் சூப்பர்.
ஊனமுற்ற வாலிபர் கேரக்டர் செம டச்சிங். மருத்துவமனையில் சேர்த்த பின்பு அவனுக்குச் சிகிச்சையளித்த பெண் டாக்டரும் நொண்டிக் கொண்டே செல்வது விஷூவல் கவிதை.
தன் அம்மாவை அடிக்கக் கிளம்பிய மிஷ்கின், எதிர்பாரா விதமாக அந்தச் சிறுவனின் அம்மா நடத்தையைக் கண்டு செவிட்டில் அடிக்கும் காட்சியில் தியேட்டரில் செம கைதட்டல். ஸ்னிக்தாவுக்காக நடக்கும் சண்டை, ஸ்னிக்தா பேசும் செயற்கையான வசனங்கள் எல்லாமே போர்.
மகேஷ் முத்துசுவாமியின் கேமராதான் படத்துக்கு முக்கிய ஜீவன். ராஜாவின் பின்னணி இசையும் பாடல்களும் சிலிர்ப்பை உண்டு பண்ணுகிறது.வசனங்களே இல்லாமல் காட்சிகள் மூலம் கதை சொல்வதில் மிஷ்கின் நிறையவே மெனக்கெட்டிருப்பது புது முயற்சி. ஆனால், சராசரி ரசிகனின் சூழல், அவனின் மனநிலையை கருத்தில் கொள்ளாமல் ‘தமிழர்கள் நடித்த ஜப்பானியப் படம்’ போல இருப்பதால் சில இடங்களில் மனம் லயிக்கவில்லை என்பது நிஜம்.
Verdict : OK
ivanga madhiri aalungala vechu dhaan thamizh nandu kadhai uruvaachu pola...
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From: SoftSword
on 3rd December 2010 04:08 AM
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enna aalaalukku miss-kin paitthiyakkaran illanu korai solranga... i thot that ambiguity about senses is what he wanted to convey...
adhu oru feature'nu naan nenachen...ivanga bug'nu solraanga... hmm...
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From: njv
on 3rd December 2010 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
http://vedigundu.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_27.html
பலரும் பல விதமாக விமர்சனம் எழுதி இருந்தாலும்கூட படத்தின் ஒரு முக்கியமான காட்சியை பற்றி யாருமே சொல்லவில்லை. அதனால் அந்த ஒரே ஒரு காட்சியை பற்றி மட்டுமே இந்த விமர்சனம்.
ஸ்னிக்தா தான் எப்படி ஒரு விலைமாதுவாக மாறினார் என்பதை விளக்கிய பின்னர், அந்த கொட்டும் மழையில் அந்த பாழடைந்த ரோட்டோர கட்டிடத்தில் மிஸ்கின், சிறுவன் அஸ்வத்ராம், ஸ்னிக்தா, பைகர் பாய்ஸ் இருவர் என்று அனைவரும் தூங்கிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றனர். அந்த நாளில் நடைபெற்ற சம்பவங்கள் அனைத்துமே அவர்கள் வாழ்வில் பெருத்த மாற்றத்தை ஏற்படுத்தி விட்டுள்ள அந்த சூழலில், அனைவரும் உறங்கிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றனர். அவர்களின் தலையருகே அந்த கருவுற்ற மலைப்பாம்பானது மெல்ல இருளில் இருந்து ஊர்ந்து ஒரு சிறிய வழியின் ஊடே செல்கிறது. அந்த ஒரு காட்சிய ஓராயிரம் ஜென் கதைகளுக்கு மூலம்.
அவர்கள் இனிமேல் ஒரு புதிய பாதையில், புதிய வாழ்வை நோக்கி சொல்கிறார்கள் (அந்த சிறிய வழி + கருவுற்ற அந்த பாம்பு)
அவர்கள் அனைவருமே மறுபிறப்பு எடுக்கும் நிலையில் இருக்கின்றனர். (கருவுற்ற பாம்பு + மாற்றமடைந்த ஸ்னிக்தாவின் வாழ்க்கை, மாற வைத்ததால் மிஸ்கின் மற்றும் சிறுவனின் முதிர் நிலை)
அவர்களுக்கு வாழ்வில் ஒரு இரண்டாவது வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கிறது (ஒரு தாய் கருவுற்று தன வாரிசை ஈனும்போது அந்த வாரிசின் ஊடே தானே வந்ததாக ஒரு மனநிலையை அடைவார்கள். அந்த சூழலில் அந்த பாம்பு மறுபடியும் தான் வாழ்வதாக (இரண்டாவதாக) ஒரு நிலையை நோக்கி செல்கிறது. அதைப்போலவே அந்த மூன்று பாத்திரங்களுமே தங்களின் வாழ்வில் இரண்டாவது வாய்ப்பிற்காக காத்திருந்து அந்த கட்டத்திற்குள் நுழைகிறார்கள்).
I posted this in my review. Didnt detail it to avoid spoiler. This is one awesome scene.
Watched it 2nd time before it goes out of theatre! Just 4 people and looks like all 4 crazy IR fans... One "perisu" romba enjoy panninaar. 4 people, all standing ovation, thats 100% of people watched..
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 3rd December 2010 06:00 AM
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njv ,
Was the python pregnant ? Thats an wonderful observation adn explanation of the metaphor !
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From: raajarasigan
on 3rd December 2010 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
njv ,
Was the python pregnant ? Thats an wonderful observation adn explanation of the metaphor !
I too did NOT notice that..
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From: AravindMano
on 3rd December 2010 10:05 AM
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Pregnant python? Uh.
Spoilers.
The film's visual ciphers are too many that it gets tiring after a while. And when the film's narrative is not entierly visual but more of dialogues and emotions, it constantly tries to go overboard. (How many of you cringed for 'en vAzhkkaila ottadai pidichadhu?') Result is a film that doesn't engage your mind and heart as the way it should have.
Even the scene before this one was so bad. Just about when I went 'oru belt pOttu tholaiyakkoodAdhA', Snigdha does that - in return for the favour of washing away all her azhukku in the rain, no less. (Audience were roaring with applause and I was wondering what exactly is my disconnect with this film). Just like how the kid runs to Snigdha to kiss her AS SOON AS he understands his mom's new life. Duh. Too many characters and too little time for each of them make them react too quickly that too in the Mysskin way and you are expected to நெகிழ்ச்சியில் நெக்குருகி and all that. konjam kashtam dhAn!
And it's interesting to see constant references to Zen philosophies in the reviews. Good that Mysskin was able to give the space for that.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 3rd December 2010 11:57 AM
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From IR Thread

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
sloshed
But thats not taking anything away from Myshkin, his shots were unbelievable and textbook to anyone who wants to be different. The angle and pan of the camera, is something noone has witnessed within the format of tamil cinema. HIs vision of the movie is way better than the original. Here is one guy who understands the medium in its truest sense. Wide angle shots reiterates his vision of storytelling. Bravo Myskin

Myskin clearly uses cinema as a visual medium. I am planning to watch this movie again as I need to explore more on this movie..
படம் முழுக்க பல காட்சிகளும் விஷுவல் கவிதை / ஹைக்கூ / ஜென் கதை என்று நிரம்பியுள்ளது. இந்த ஒரு படத்தின் மூலம் மிஸ்கின் மற்ற தற்கால இயக்குனர்களை விட பல மடங்கு மேலே சில்கிறார். நிச்சயம் ஒரு கமல் படம் இயக்க வேண்டும் என்று விரும்புகிறேன்
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 3rd December 2010 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
AravindMano
Pregnant python? Uh.
Spoilers.
The film's visual ciphers are too many that it gets tiring after a while. And when the film's narrative is not entierly visual but more of dialogues and emotions, it constantly tries to go overboard. (How many of you cringed for 'en vAzhkkaila ottadai pidichadhu?') Result is a film that doesn't engage your mind and heart as the way it should have.
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Honest post !
One of the dialogues i hated was that ! Yes - it was tiring for me too , but immediately after the movie got over , somehow i started re-collecting the music, scenes that a feeling of 'likeness' came to me
It definetly did not engage me in the characters , and i believe it was mean't to be - its just a journey ..if its boring , its boring
I would compare the ourney i had from Delhi to Gurgoan in 2001 - i immensely liked in that time/mind frame , but in some other situation, i would have been bored by it .
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 3rd December 2010 01:28 PM
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Sakalakala Vallavar ,
Movie with kamal 'was' on the cards ..for reasons best explained by residents of eldams road , it was dropped ....
It would have been a great one if it had happened , theoretically .... BUt Mysskin gives more importance to the visuals & framing than the actor's performance , hence , if applied , it would'nt have worked for Kamal ...
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From: AravindMano
on 3rd December 2010 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki

Originally Posted by
AravindMano
Pregnant python? Uh.
Spoilers.
The film's visual ciphers are too many that it gets tiring after a while. And when the film's narrative is not entierly visual but more of dialogues and emotions, it constantly tries to go overboard. (How many of you cringed for 'en vAzhkkaila ottadai pidichadhu?') Result is a film that doesn't engage your mind and heart as the way it should have.
.
Honest post !
One of the dialogues i hated was that ! Yes - it was tiring for me too , but immediately after the movie got over , somehow i started re-collecting the music, scenes that a feeling of 'likeness' came to me
It definetly did not engage me in the characters , and i believe it was mean't to be - its just a journey ..if its boring , its boring
I would compare the ourney i had from Delhi to Gurgoan in 2001 - i immensely liked in that time/mind frame , but in some other situation, i would have been bored by it .
Thanks MumbaiRamki.
Agree on the recollecting factor. When I was listening to the BGM yesterday it did send some vibes about the film and the BGM overall, but I am still not somehow convinced. May be I need to watch it again.
Agree on >>its just a journey ..if its boring , its boring >>>
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From: kid-glove
on 3rd December 2010 01:46 PM
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The only thing that stops Mysskin's films from being accepted fully is the lead performance. No matter the amount of visual treatment you give to the story, you need the characters. It's their POV and it's 'em the objects of the objective POV.To my mind, this film would truly benefit from a NT, Kamal or Mohanlal. Somehow, as Equa very rightly observes, the supporting characters seem better enacted than the lead in his films. The lead performances all suffer from stilted (be it Japanese for all I care) form of expressions..
So let's not sound as if he's got that state of automatism in acting like a Robert Bresson. In fact, there are broad gestures, musical cues, etc that's serves to mind a conventional form of acting. Take Nandalala, there's a lot of 'performance' here which is rendered with inexplicably bulged eyes, vibrating body, etc (straight out of Mifune's school of acting or whatever !)
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From: Anban
on 3rd December 2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Sakalakala Vallavar ,
Movie with kamal 'was' on the cards ..for reasons best explained by residents of eldams road , it was dropped ....
It would have been a great one if it had happened , theoretically .... BUt Mysskin gives more importance to the visuals & framing than the actor's performance , hence , if applied , it would'nt have worked for Kamal ...
Kamal was super impressed by Nandhalala and booked Mysskin.. gave him an advance too.. this is sure 100%
sacred tooth of buddha base panni script ready panna Mysskin try pannirukkaar..
latest enna aachunu visaarichu paatha.. script Kamal-kku pidikkalainu pesikkiraanga.. production side trouble also...

ethu unmainu therila..
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 3rd December 2010 01:54 PM
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sappaan padam pola ingaum etho oru international movie copy adichi sonnaarnnu oru news vanthuchi, movie name something like ballot vote
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From: kid-glove
on 3rd December 2010 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
sappaan padam pola ingaum etho oru international movie copy adichi sonnaarnnu oru news vanthuchi, movie name something like ballot vote
IT won't be the first or last Kamal film to do that now, would it?
I'd much rather have Kamal to work with budding filmmakers like Mysskin that rejoin with KSR (even if it's his own scripted)..
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 3rd December 2010 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
IT won't be the first or last Kamal film to do that now, would it?
I'd much rather have Kamal to work with budding filmmakers like Mysskin that rejoin with KSR (even if it's his own scripted)..
Exactly
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 3rd December 2010 02:56 PM
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Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
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From: irir123
on 3rd December 2010 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
"any three letter guys"

:P
KSR i believe is an outstanding hard-working manager of a film-production unit, who can also give enough inputs to add just the right amount of salt and pepper to the script to take it to a nagercoil tea-shop owner, or a coimbatore bus driver while the 'kamalism' aspects of the script/film are expected to satisfy serious kamal fans!
hence, for a big-budget film, Kamal wud rather bank on a bankable guy like KSR who knows exactly what to do on the commercial viability front.
having said that, am curious to know the inputs KSR must have received from Kamal during their joint ventures and how KSR's film-making itself has changed (if not improved!) after he began working with Kamal ? any idea abt the difference in the quality of KSR' non-Kamal films before and after he began working with Kamal ?
Naan munnadiyey sonnaen - if both Kamal and IR are impressed with someone's work, then the work HAS to be good! Nandalala is a fine example of that! way back in the 90s, when I first met IR at Prasad Studios, he went ga-ga over the potential of 'devathai' script as well as a newcomer by the name Bala!
idhey Kamal was bowled over by Mahendran's MULLUM MALARUM after seeing the rushes and he (Kamal) financed the last part of the film, when the producer apparently got scared by the offbeat script and the rushes and refused to finance any further!
thats Kamal the genuine artist for you!
he cannot be blamed for the lack of ppl with genuine aesthetic sense and a business-oriented set of production houses with no interests in improving the quality of cinema - and therefore, his choices are understandable - despite being a hard-core IR fan, i can also understand the obligations Kamal has to budge in to the demands of a producer/financier who may want someone else for a given film (besides, i also sincerely feel that Kamal genuinely wants to work with all kinds of artistes/technicians and not be stereotyped as someone who likes a certain artiste and would not work with others - hence KSR, CS, Charan, Suresh Krishna etc, as well as Deva, KR, ARR, DSP, VS - the one sore point is Himesh Reshamiyya!)
i have also heard from reliable sources that Kamal is eminently approachable if one has a decent script to even ask for an opinion!
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From: venkkiram
on 3rd December 2010 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
படம் முழுக்க பல காட்சிகளும் விஷுவல் கவிதை / ஹைக்கூ / ஜென் கதை என்று நிரம்பியுள்ளது.
சிறுவன் அகிக்கு உனது தாய் இங்கிருக்கிறாள், அங்கிருக்கிறாள் என திசை காட்டுகையில் பாஸ்கர் மணியின் நிழலை மட்டும் காண்பித்தது அழகான ஒரு ஹைக்கூ . பொய்யை நிழலாக காட்டும் விதம் அருமை.
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From: jaiganes
on 3rd December 2010 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
irir123

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
"any three letter guys"

:P
KSR i believe is an outstanding hard-working manager of a film-production unit, who can also give enough inputs to add just the right amount of salt and pepper to the script to take it to a nagercoil tea-shop owner, or a coimbatore bus driver while the 'kamalism' aspects of the script/film are expected to satisfy serious kamal fans!
hence, for a big-budget film, Kamal wud rather bank on a bankable guy like KSR who knows exactly what to do on the commercial viability front.
having said that, am curious to know the inputs KSR must have received from Kamal during their joint ventures and how KSR's film-making itself has changed (if not improved!) after he began working with Kamal ? any idea abt the difference in the quality of KSR' non-Kamal films before and after he began working with Kamal ?
Naan munnadiyey sonnaen - if both Kamal and IR are impressed with someone's work, then the work HAS to be good! Nandalala is a fine example of that! way back in the 90s, when I first met IR at Prasad Studios, he went ga-ga over the potential of 'devathai' script as well as a newcomer by the name Bala!
idhey Kamal was bowled over by Mahendran's MULLUM MALARUM after seeing the rushes and he (Kamal) financed the last part of the film, when the producer apparently got scared by the offbeat script and the rushes and refused to finance any further!
thats Kamal the genuine artist for you!
he cannot be blamed for the lack of ppl with genuine aesthetic sense and a business-oriented set of production houses with no interests in improving the quality of cinema - and therefore, his choices are understandable - despite being a hard-core IR fan, i can also understand the obligations Kamal has to budge in to the demands of a producer/financier who may want someone else for a given film (besides, i also sincerely feel that Kamal genuinely wants to work with all kinds of artistes/technicians and not be stereotyped as someone who likes a certain artiste and would not work with others - hence KSR, CS, Charan, Suresh Krishna etc, as well as Deva, KR, ARR, DSP, VS - the one sore point is Himesh Reshamiyya!)
i have also heard from reliable sources that Kamal is eminently approachable if one has a decent script to even ask for an opinion!
Having read that,, one has to also understand that Kamal has gone what we call in Software industry -- "Native".
Ooroda rombave oththu vaazharar. For his talent, he need not be.. however we dont know what is the pressure like being a Kamal hassan. Raaja on the other hand is a free man, free to say and do whatever he likes to..
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 3rd December 2010 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
Naan munnadiyey sonnaen - if both Kamal and IR are impressed with someone's work, then the work HAS to be good!
Some time during that kamal misskin combo was doing rounds, there was a news that kamal called up sun pics saxena and recommended them to buy Nandalala
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 3rd December 2010 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
படம் முழுக்க பல காட்சிகளும் விஷுவல் கவிதை / ஹைக்கூ / ஜென் கதை என்று நிரம்பியுள்ளது.
சிறுவன் அகிக்கு உனது தாய் இங்கிருக்கிறாள், அங்கிருக்கிறாள் என திசை காட்டுகையில் பாஸ்கர் மணியின் நிழலை மட்டும் காண்பித்தது அழகான ஒரு ஹைக்கூ . பொய்யை நிழலாக காட்டும் விதம் அருமை.
super find! was thinking why shadow was shown!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 3rd December 2010 11:55 PM
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Using Cinema as a visual medium is not the first time, pushpak decently did that, well before. But there aren't any recent films coming to my memory.
looks like, the amount of visual art subtle messages are much more in nandalala. i need a second viewing!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
vithagan
Kumudam Review
முதலில் மிஷ்கின்... “யாரோ டி.வி.யை உடைச்சுட்டாங்க...’’ என முதல் காட்சியிலேயே மிகப் புத்திசாலித்தனமாக வார்டனிடம் சொல்லும் போது மனநலம் பாதித்தவருக்கான அறிகுறியே இல்லை. விழி பிதுங்குற மாதிரி முகத்தைக் குரூரமாக்கிக் காட்டுவதிலும், ‘மென்டலா’ என்று கேட்டவுடன் அவர் காட்டும் மூர்க்கத்திலும்,பையனிடம் கோபத்தைக் காட்ட முடியாமல் தவியாய் தவிக்கின்ற தவிப்பும் இவன் புத்திசாலியா...? புத்தி பிசகியவனா...? என்ற குழப்பம்தான் மிஞ்சுகிறது.
i am getting a thought... why should movies have logic? most of the times... and this point which i quoted is not very barring, even if it is, somehow, it helps to move the story.
only once if you are convinced that baskar mani is mentally retarded/challenged, only then you get sympathy on him which is the need of the hour.
ok, appadi paatha thappunnu sonnaalum, arent they tons of movies with them?? i recall nerd's point about moonram pirai climax, agree with him. the way kamal reacts is to an extent totally needless, but most of us forgot that due to the impact it made on us. and the Na was awarded mainly for that climax. no doubt it was a stellar performance. but all to earn viewer's sympathy.
nandalala's case too is like that.
most of the movie goers comlain on logical and factual errors only. this trend has grown much more among the internet population.
not to say that logic is needless, but some places, like these can be forgiven, given the impact of the movie!
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From: app_engine
on 4th December 2010 12:18 AM
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இவன் புத்திசாலியா...? புத்தி பிசகியவனா...? என்ற குழப்பம்தான் மிஞ்சுகிறது.
I haven't seen the movie, still can comfortably say that the above statement is funny (rather, stupid).
Where is any rule that a mentally challenged person cannot appear "normal" or "intelligent" at times?
The poster has absolutely no idea about mentally challenged people in real life, very surprising - considering that such people are so commonplace in the society.
Very few of them are abnormal ALL 24 hours of the day.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 4th December 2010 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
Hellov, ARR kooda three-letter guy thaanya. Venaama Venaama venaama ?
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From: jaiganes
on 4th December 2010 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
Hellov, ARR kooda three-letter guy thaanya. Venaama Venaama venaama ?
Avaru adhai thaane solraaru. purinjukka maatreengaLe..
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From: Ramakrishna
on 4th December 2010 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes
Avaru adhai thaane solraaru. purinjukka maatreengaLe..
Oh!!! Avalo thairyamaa? Appo aduthu raththam paakka pora thread ithuthaan.
ARR venaamaam
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 12:41 AM
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கிகுஜிரோவின் தழுவல் இல்லை நந்தலாலா என்று தெளிவாக உணர்கிறேன். ஆனால், கிகுஜிரோவின் பாதிப்பில் உருவான படமே நந்தலாலா என்பதும் தெரிகிறது.
கிகுஜிரோவில் ஒரு சிறுவன் தன் தாயைத் தேடிச் செல்கிறான். உதவிக்கு வருபவன் கொஞ்சம் வித்தியாசமாக நடந்து கொள்பவன். சிறுவனின் தாய், வேறொருவருடன் செட்டிலாகிவிட்டது தெரிகிறது. பையனைச் சமாதானப்படுத்த, அவனது அம்மா வேறு இடத்திற்கு மாறிச் சென்றிருக்கலாம் என்கிறான் உடன் வந்தவன். சிறுவனைக் குஷிப்படுத்த சில விளையாட்டுகள் காட்டுகிறார்கள். விளையாடுகிறார்கள். பயணிக்கிறார்கள். ஊருக்குத் திரும்ப வந்ததும், மறுபடி இன்னொருமுறை இதே போன்று செய்யலாமென உடன் வந்தவன் சொல்ல, சிறுவன் மகிழ்ச்சியாகச் செல்வதுடன் படம் முடிகிறது.
நந்தலாலாவின் அடிப்படைக் கதையே வேறு மாதிரியானது. ...To read full story -
http://jyovramsundar.blogspot.com/20...blog-post.html
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 12:43 AM
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Vettri petra manithargal virumbum paakku,
A R R sugantha paakku
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From: jaiganes
on 4th December 2010 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Vettri petra manithargal virumbum paakku,
A R R sugantha paakku

appo vetri peruvadharku indha paakku udhavaadhungareenga. jeyichu apparama collaboration
parava illayE dhairiyamaa solliteengaLe...
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From: njv
on 4th December 2010 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
njv ,
Was the python pregnant ? Thats an wonderful observation adn explanation of the metaphor !
I too did NOT notice that..

Yes it was. First time i had the doubt, but confirmed second time. Awesome metaphor. Many other situations as well. Probably need to see more to appreciate. Hopefully we will get a quality DVD from Ayngaran.
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From: njv
on 4th December 2010 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Sakalakala Vallavar ,
Movie with kamal 'was' on the cards ..for reasons best explained by residents of eldams road , it was dropped ....
It would have been a great one if it had happened , theoretically .... BUt Mysskin gives more importance to the visuals & framing than the actor's performance , hence , if applied , it would'nt have worked for Kamal ...
Hmm... Kamal would steal the visuals. Definitely looking for Myskin-Kamal-IR combo. Would be awesome.
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 4th December 2010 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Bala , Kid
I second /third that !
Im tired of KSR - but for kamal's passion/acting , i would have hated dasavatharam - so pporly conceptualised in direction !
But having said that , he does a great job for movies that ticke you ... but for serious stuff , stay away from KSR , DSP and any three letter guys !
Hellov, ARR kooda three-letter guy thaanya. Venaama Venaama venaama ?
Oru flow la sonnaen ..ARR a mean pannala !!!!
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 4th December 2010 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by
njv

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
njv ,
Was the python pregnant ? Thats an wonderful observation adn explanation of the metaphor !
I too did NOT notice that..

Yes it was. First time i had the doubt, but confirmed second time. Awesome metaphor. Many other situations as well. Probably need to see more to appreciate. Hopefully we will get a quality DVD from Ayngaran.
Me too, eagerly expecting a dvd ... Hope they dont price it decently and have some BGM pieces also !
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From: Bala (Karthik)
on 4th December 2010 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
irir123
having said that, am curious to know the inputs KSR must have received from Kamal during their joint ventures and how KSR's film-making itself has changed (if not improved!) after he began working with Kamal ? any idea abt the difference in the quality of KSR' non-Kamal films before and after he began working with Kamal ?
None whatsoever nu nenaikkaren

For e.g Jakkuboy, Honest mattum dhaan paathaaru nu nenaikkaren, he can say more...

Originally Posted by
irir123
idhey Kamal was bowled over by Mahendran's MULLUM MALARUM after seeing the rushes and he (Kamal) financed the last part of the film, when the producer apparently got scared by the offbeat script and the rushes and refused to finance any further!
I don't think Kamal himself financed the remaining part of the film. Nidhi ushaar panna help pannaar nu nenaikkaren (from his or Mahendran's interview that was posted here sometime back)
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 11:26 AM
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KSR's induvidual blockbusters are jakkubai, ethiri (Maddy), Athavan(contentwise its a great blockbuster), Paattaali, Electric krishna, Paarai & Samuthiram for Sarathkumar, Saravana etc
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From: P_R
on 4th December 2010 11:32 AM
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நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
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From: kid-glove
on 4th December 2010 11:40 AM
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On MM, Balu shot the film on Kamal's insistence. And Mahendran says that KH rationed out film and lighting equipment.
On KH, not the 'rebel with cause' I knew once. Doesn't reduce my respect and reverence however. Still, the effect could be seen after the turn of millennium. His career should be divided into pre-Hey! Ram and post-Hey! Ram. The toll that film took on him could be felt in all his choices since.
Doesn't stop him from producing a film with Sathyaraj, Revathy, Madhavan, Ramesh Aravind in the leads & directors like Balu Mahendra, SSR, Mouli, Adhu oru karuthu, etc in the last 25 years..
But in general, he had reduced the risks. He's extremely cautious on both his film choices and budget restrictions. Rajkamal wouldn't do another Hey! Ram, and will now indulge in joint productions (that makes him compromise on quality from the director to MD to casting - will he cast another Kovai Sarala?). This is the man who never thought about image when he played the widower father in Mahanadhi getting kicked by Pimps and prostitutes. Now he is understandably (but also poignantly) cautious..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 4th December 2010 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
padam patacha?
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From: P_R
on 4th December 2010 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
padam patacha?
Yes. Anyway எல்லாரும் ஒரு தடவை பாத்துருங்க.
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From: raajarasigan
on 4th December 2010 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
padam patacha?
Yes. Anyway எல்லாரும் ஒரு தடவை பாத்துருங்க.
seekkiram paarungappa... padathai thookkinaalum thookkiduvaanga...
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 4th December 2010 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
KSR's induvidual blockbusters are jakkubai, ethiri (Maddy), Athavan(contentwise its a great blockbuster), Paattaali, Electric krishna, Paarai & Samuthiram for Sarathkumar, Saravana etc
Jakkubai blockbuster ? the worst film i have seen in many years !!
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From: PG2010
on 4th December 2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
KSR's induvidual blockbusters are jakkubai, ethiri (Maddy), Athavan(contentwise its a great blockbuster), Paattaali, Electric krishna, Paarai & Samuthiram for Sarathkumar, Saravana etc
Jakkubai blockbuster ? the worst film i have seen in many years !!
Ramki this is called as 'VANJA PUGAZHCHI ANI' in tamil.
theriyaathaa
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From: SoftSword
on 4th December 2010 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
i could not categorize it as a movie..
for me it was like listening to a story by closing the eyes and as if i could visualize myself on how it happens.. it was more like reading a book, which spoke more about the atmosphere and characters than the dialogues spoken by the characters.
Rajini solra madhiri sonna... "its an experience"
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From: Plum
on 4th December 2010 05:54 PM
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I think the 3 letter meant by Ramki, a notrious and lonely KR fan, was YSR
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 4th December 2010 06:45 PM
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Plum ,
LOL !! oru flow la sollitaen ..except KSR, DSP -> i honestly didnt think abt any one ..
appa , i love YSR songs !
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 4th December 2010 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
PG2010

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
KSR's induvidual blockbusters are jakkubai, ethiri (Maddy), Athavan(contentwise its a great blockbuster), Paattaali, Electric krishna, Paarai & Samuthiram for Sarathkumar, Saravana etc
Jakkubai blockbuster ? the worst film i have seen in many years !!
Ramki this is called as 'VANJA PUGAZHCHI ANI' in tamil.
theriyaathaa

ok ok .. i just saw the first name and my eye brows went 11 05
Ethiri, paatali ( released in my 3rd yr in college ), samuthiram were semi-hits ...
Saravana , Paarai , electric krishna were genuine flops ...
Jaggubhai -> untouchable !
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From: Nerd
on 4th December 2010 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும்
கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
BGM pathi onnu rendu vaarthai?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
I think the 3 letter meant by Ramki, a notrious and lonely KR fan, was YSR

Vetri petra manithargal virumbum ore paakku,
A R R Sugantha paakku
CM galil sirantha CM,
Y S R CM
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From: Sanjeevi
on 4th December 2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும் கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
BGM pathi onnu rendu vaarthai?

Athan sollittaarE
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From: Sanjeevi
on 4th December 2010 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
Plum
I think the 3 letter meant by Ramki, a notrious and lonely KR fan, was YSR

Vetri petra manithargal virumbum ore paakku,
A R R Sugantha paakku
CM galil sirantha CM,
Y S R CM

enna aachu ungalukku
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 09:30 PM
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someone was telling kamal shud keep away from three letter guys - KSR, DSP etc. some other poked if ARR too is in the list.
I am indirect countering that ARR and YSR are 2 composers which kamal shud work with!
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From: Sanjeevi
on 4th December 2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Plum ,
LOL !! oru flow la sollitaen ..except KSR, DSP -> i honestly didnt think abt any one ..
appa , i love YSR songs !
unga antha flow-va maindain panna plum romba menakeduraru. anyway simple rendu word-la oru kalagathai undu pannitteenga. Congrats :P
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From: Sanjeevi
on 4th December 2010 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
someone was telling kamal shud keep away from three letter guys - KSR, DSP etc. some other poked if ARR too is in the list.
I am indirect countering that ARR and YSR are 2 composers which kamal shud work with!
got it
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From: Plum
on 4th December 2010 09:57 PM
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Sakala, aduthu enna? Arisiyil siRandhadhu IR 8 arisiyA?
Appadi pArthAl, police-il siRandhadhu DSP padhavi enRu ANitharamAga ennAl adithu kURa mudiyum enbadhai solla ingu nAn kadamai pattuLLEn
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 4th December 2010 09:59 PM
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Manage mendil sirantha menegemend - PLM athaavathu Product LifeCycle Management.
Nalla Panreenga PLUM managemend!
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd

Originally Posted by
P_R
நந்தலாலா. வித்தியாசமான தமிழ்ப்படம். வளரும்
கலைஞர்களை உற்சாகப்படுத்தியாகிவிட்டது.
BGM pathi onnu rendu vaarthai?

I have never been so conscious about BGM when going to watch a movie as I was this time. First few mins was good - or I was able to notice as there was pretty much nothing happening
The one scene where Myshkin escapes from the asylum has a wide shot of him scaling the wall and running. Quite thrilling music.
After that I don't remember much. But I guess that is a good thing as it means there was nothing obtrusive. I usually notice only bad ones. Good BGM I notice in some scenes on nth revisit - surely not going to happen with this movie
All 3 songs were used well. Mella oorndhu oorndhu is my favourite, now I think I like it even more.
For the film as a whole, Myshkin-ai thitta manasu vara mAttEngudhu. He is uber sincere and quite sheerly vishyAsamAna muyarchi. It was very 'shabbA for me.
So I will take recourse to the gem of a statement that TM once mentioned that his daughter used: "padam nallA irundhuchu, enakku pudikkalai"
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 07:34 AM
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TM's daughter would make a fine hubber!
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
He is uber sincere and quite sheerly vishyAsamAna muyarchi. It was very 'shabbA for me.
So I will take recourse to the gem of a statement that TM once mentioned that his daughter used: "padam nallA irundhuchu, enakku pudikkalai"


i told u so......
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th December 2010 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
For the film as a whole, Myshkin-ai thitta manasu vara mAttEngudhu. He is uber sincere and quite sheerly vishyAsamAna muyarchi. It was very 'shabbA for me.
So I will take recourse to the gem of a statement that TM once mentioned that his daughter used: "padam nallA irundhuchu, enakku pudikkalai"

these 2 para's summarise ur view, but kekkaama vida kanasu vara mAttEngudhu! - did you get to know the 'exact' differences?! -
http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2010/12/blog-post.html
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 10:50 AM
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Feeyarukku vayitherichchal!
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 12:03 PM
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SKV,
I have seen snatches of Kikujiro. Older slightly crazy guy accompanying a kid in jearch of his mother - appidingradhai thavira similarity illai 'ngradhu poster/story paarthaalE theriyin.
idhu nemba serious film.
That blogger's marks
For me the film was full-off
இதைக் கேட்டதும் அவனுக்கு அதிர்ச்சி
இவன் சொன்னதும் அவன் நெகிழ்ந்திடரான்
அதுவரைக்கும் அப்பிடி இருந்தவன், அந்த நொடியில இப்பிடி ஆயிடறான்
அந்த வார்த்தை அவனை பாதிக்குது
அந்தக் கணம் அவனுடைய அகம் திறக்குது
The film was a tiresome series of such moments. எத்தனை? was my reaction. Very very simplistic. Anyway, someone with more patience and less cynicism than me may find the film engaging.
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From: venkkiram
on 5th December 2010 12:44 PM
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இரவில் நடந்து செல்ல வெளிச்சம் தேவையென்பதால் அன்னை மேரியிடம் இருக்கும் இரண்டு விளக்குகளையும் பாஸ்கர் மணி எடுத்துக்கொண்டு நடக்கும் காட்சி இன்னொரு ஹைக்கூ. இரு தீபங்கள் மட்டும் இருட்டில் நகர்ந்து செல்லக் கூடியதாக அமையும் அந்தக் காட்சியை அப்படியே கண்ணில் ஒற்றிக்கொள்ளலாம்.
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From: AravindMano
on 5th December 2010 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
For me the film was full-off
இதைக் கேட்டதும் அவனுக்கு அதிர்ச்சி
இவன் சொன்னதும் அவன் நெகிழ்ந்திடரான்
அதுவரைக்கும் அப்பிடி இருந்தவன், அந்த நொடியில இப்பிடி ஆயிடறான்
அந்த வார்த்தை அவனை பாதிக்குது
அந்தக் கணம் அவனுடைய அகம் திறக்குது

நடுநடுல பட்டம், முள்செடி, மலைப்பாம்பு எட்ஸட்ரா எட்ஸட்ரா...
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From: AravindMano
on 5th December 2010 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
இரவில் நடந்து செல்ல வெளிச்சம் தேவையென்பதால் அன்னை மேரியிடம் இருக்கும் இரண்டு விளக்குகளையும் பாஸ்கர் மணி எடுத்துக்கொண்டு நடக்கும் காட்சி இன்னொரு ஹைக்கூ. இரு தீபங்கள் மட்டும் இருட்டில் நகர்ந்து செல்லக் கூடியதாக அமையும் அந்தக் காட்சியை அப்படியே கண்ணில் ஒற்றிக்கொள்ளலாம்.
That whole episode was nicely done ending perfectly with the image of two pairs of legs on the car windows. இரவோடு இரவா துளிர் விட்டா மாதிரி. It largely worked for me because the whole episode was muted.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
SKV,
I have seen snatches of Kikujiro. Older slightly crazy guy accompanying a kid in jearch of his mother - appidingradhai thavira similarity illai 'ngradhu poster/story paarthaalE theriyin.
idhu nemba serious film.
That blogger's marks
For me the film was full-off
இதைக் கேட்டதும் அவனுக்கு அதிர்ச்சி
இவன் சொன்னதும் அவன் நெகிழ்ந்திடரான்
அதுவரைக்கும் அப்பிடி இருந்தவன், அந்த நொடியில இப்பிடி ஆயிடறான்
அந்த வார்த்தை அவனை பாதிக்குது
அந்தக் கணம் அவனுடைய அகம் திறக்குது
The film was a tiresome series of such moments. எத்தனை? was my reaction.
Very very simplistic. Anyway, someone with more patience and less cynicism than me may find the film engaging.
case of emperor's clothes exposed
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
AravindMano
ending perfectly with the image of two pairs of legs on the car windows.
வாழப்பழம் சாப்பிடப் போனவரு அப்பிடியே freeze ஆவாரு பாருங்க
I could see it was 'conceived' and written well. But the acting was atrocious.
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 01:01 PM
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MADDY, yuvar AnjAdhE like or not?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th December 2010 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
For me the film was full-off
இதைக் கேட்டதும் அவனுக்கு அதிர்ச்சி
இவன் சொன்னதும் அவன் நெகிழ்ந்திடரான்
அதுவரைக்கும் அப்பிடி இருந்தவன், அந்த நொடியில இப்பிடி ஆயிடறான்
அந்த வார்த்தை அவனை பாதிக்குது
அந்தக் கணம் அவனுடைய அகம் திறக்குது
The film was a tiresome series of such moments. எத்தனை? was my reaction. Very very simplistic. Anyway, someone with more patience and less cynicism than me may find the film engaging.
enakku puriyala.. vera entha padathula ithellaam illaama irunthathu?!?
ok, and what about the cinema as a visual medium, for ex, during the climax, misskin's shadow pointing, and that cobra scene..
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From: AravindMano
on 5th December 2010 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
AravindMano
ending perfectly with the image of two pairs of legs on the car windows.
வாழப்பழம் சாப்பிடப் போனவரு அப்பிடியே freeze ஆவாரு பாருங்க
I could see it was 'conceived' and written well. But
the acting was atrocious.
Almost everyone did! The school girl episode's last scene was badly enacted, the girl I mean. மிஷ்கினே கூடு விட்டு கூடு பாஞ்சு நடிச்சா மாதிரி.
There is a fleeting scene of a road-side shop lady asking 'என்ன தம்பி பட்டம் வேணுமா?’ quite casually and fondly. அதில்லாத தாய்மைய இவங்க மத்த எல்லோர்டயும் வலுக்கட்டாயமா வரவழச்சு இழச்சு...
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
MADDY, yuvar AnjAdhE like or not?
yea - very much........
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From: venkkiram
on 5th December 2010 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
AravindMano
Almost everyone did! The school girl episode's last scene was badly enacted, the girl I mean. மிஷ்கினே கூடு விட்டு கூடு பாஞ்சு நடிச்சா மாதிரி.
அந்த வயசு பொண்ணுங்களுக்கே உரிய என்ன பண்ணனும், எப்படி ஒரு இளைஞனிடம் பேசனும் எனத் தெரியாத ஒரு பருவம்.. ஆகையால் அந்தப் பொண்ணு நல்லா நடிச்சிருந்தா மட்டுமே மிகையாக இருக்கும். நல்லா நடிக்காம அரையும் குறையுமா நடிச்சிருப்பதால் அதுவும் ஒருவகையில் இயல்பாகத் தான் தென்படுகிறது.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 01:21 PM
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if at all mysskin has opted for some other hero to perform his role..considering that his acting was termed as OK in many reviews..who could he have opted
I dont think anyone of vijay-ajith-surya generation could have dont this role convincingly...before 20 yearsna kamal could have performed..ippo panna kamal mothera nadikkara charecter grandma va than irukkum
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th December 2010 01:48 PM
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oru kaalathula art film naa kattaayam anju nimisham vaayil nurai thaLLa brush pannura scene irukkum, oru kelvikkum bathilukkum naduvil gap 10 nimisham irukkum!
athai maatriya perumayil perum pangu kamalukku undu. innikku naama nalla padangalum kooda virumaandiyin aruvaaLilum, gaandhiyai sutta thuppaakkigaLukkum naduve thedugirom.
among such things, nandalala is a fresh breath. for me its not equal but next to anbe sivam
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From: venkkiram
on 5th December 2010 01:56 PM
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Nandalala — The road not taken இந்த பதிவர் நல்லா சொல்லியிருக்கிறார்... ஒருவேளை Hubல் புழங்கும் மனிதராகவும் இருந்தால் ப்ரத்யேக நன்றிகள்.
- The first bro*ken cliche was the unfit dress of a secu*rity guard to Mysskin. I felt like slapped by believ*ing “so called” escape scenes in cin*ema, where the char*ac*ter gets a per*fect police/doctor/compounder/waiter’s dress.
- The shoes [ unfit again ! ] state the prob*lem as he starts wear*ing them in oppo*sites. When every*thing is clear, the shoes were worn cor*rectly. In every strug*gle, shoes come out first. He is con*cerned and col*lects them back as they are his only assets.
- Mysskin comes out of the asy*lum and he feels hun*gry by hear*ing some kind of bell sound [ a prac*tice in asylum ! ].
- His char*ac*ter gets stunned when he faces the first death in asy*lum, first rowdy on the street. He stands still & couldn’t think.
- When the hotel secu*rity guard asks him to take food in the lane, he refuses to get inside because he’s afraid of the dark*ness. [ dark*ness resem*bles him the asy*lum].
- Kid’s mother is not good/right and hence her back is shown to the audi*ence. A won*der*ful scene to con*vey every*thing in visual.
- The Nasser scene is to depict the good*ness he does even while he was sleep*ing.
- If you see a slight jerk in the end*ing [ Snigda’s change in cos*tume / Kuravar who goes to get a change miss*ing ], it’s because of the miss*ing Narikurava’s episode [ remem*ber the Ellile song ! ]. That would have made the film 3.15 hrs long but even more an enjoy*a*bale ride. In fact, it extends the char*ac*ters of the old man’s team in red tempo [ an evil sym*bol ], a kid*nap, the kuravar and his crew, big bik*ers join*ing them again for the dialog*less climax.
- The Ellile song hap*pens in Narikuravar’s place and the cli*max loca*tion was designed like a mother’s womb — Kids going back to womb to save the mother was the idea given by Mysskin. Now, we can under*stand what the town names “Thaai vaasal” or “Annai vaasal” means.
- Shadow is used to point the direc*tion of the mother’s house to the kid — Depicts a lie.
- To make it under*stand*abla that Mysskin is stand*ing in his own home, he takes the peb*bles from his own repos*i*tory.
- The python along with its young one depicts the moth*er*li*ness.
- The fenced enclo*sure of the herd of sheep rese*me*ble the tamil let*ter. [ ஃ — Aidha ezuthu]. That’s where the Azhagiyal direc*tor Trot*sky Marudhu plays his role.
- The red belt of Mysskin and the chain attached to a character’s leg sym*bol*ises the umbli*cal cord.
- Snigda wears a saree in the cli*max, which is shown in the first scene in the kid’s house [ Maid drying sarees ].
- Source for the money in kid’s pocket — The kid man*ages the money sent from his mother as his grand*mother is blind [ she can’t man*age the money part ]. His mother funds his edu*ca*tion in a good school.
- No flash*back is used in the nar*ra*tion. Every person’s story is told in a straight line, with their respec*tive dia*logues.
இவரின் கட்டுரையைப் படித்தால் சினிமாவில் பணிபுரியும் மனிதரோ அல்லது மிஷ்கினுடன் ரொம்ப நெருங்கிய பழக்கமோ என்ற சந்தேகம் வருகிறது.
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From: venkkiram
on 5th December 2010 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
oru kaalathula art film naa kattaayam anju nimisham vaayil nurai thaLLa brush pannura scene irukkum, oru kelvikkum bathilukkum naduvil gap 10 nimisham irukkum!
சரியா சொன்னீங்க.. வீடு படத்தில் கிழவர் பேருந்தை விட்டு இறங்கி நடந்து போய்க் கொண்டே இருப்பார்..புள்ளியாய் மறையும் வரை. கேமரா கோணம் பத்து நிமிடம் அப்படியே இருக்கும் . எனக்கென்னவோ அந்தக் காட்சியை பார்க்கும் போது, ஒருவேளை "இன்றைய பொழுதின் கடைசி ஷாட் இது. உன்க சொந்த வீடு அங்க தானே இருக்கு, அப்படியே நடந்தே போய்டுங்க, கார் பெட்ரோல் செலவு மிச்சம்.." என பாலுமகேந்திராவே அந்த கிழவரிடம் சொல்லி Shoot செய்திருப்பாரோ என்ற எண்ணம் வரும்.
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 02:07 PM
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Feeyar's'views on ravanan also someone quote and say emperor naked.
sAppAttula sengal!
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 5th December 2010 02:19 PM
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Logical a , i have some doubts .
1) In Thaai vasal ( or annai vayal _ i get confused which is for whom ) , MYsskin goes to a home where a lady pleads to Mysskin( the home where a kid will be playing in the front) . I couldn't get why it was . Is this a revelation that Mysskin comes to know about the kid's mother ?
2) The shadow - I thought this was more like a zen who shows the path to snehida, who is kid's mother ( as seein the pic )
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From: raajarasigan
on 5th December 2010 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
venkkiram
naan niraya vishayangal kavanikkaama vittutten
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
SKV,
I have seen snatches of Kikujiro. Older slightly crazy guy accompanying a kid in jearch of his mother - appidingradhai thavira similarity illai 'ngradhu poster/story paarthaalE theriyin.
idhu nemba serious film.
That blogger's marks
For me the film was full-off
இதைக் கேட்டதும் அவனுக்கு அதிர்ச்சி
இவன் சொன்னதும் அவன் நெகிழ்ந்திடரான்
அதுவரைக்கும் அப்பிடி இருந்தவன், அந்த நொடியில இப்பிடி ஆயிடறான்
அந்த வார்த்தை அவனை பாதிக்குது
அந்தக் கணம் அவனுடைய அகம் திறக்குது
The film was a tiresome series of such moments. எத்தனை? was my reaction. Very very simplistic. Anyway, someone with more patience and less cynicism than me may find the film engaging.
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
NOV's movie of the year madhiri pola
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
Anban
btw.. padam opening.. much better than expected (sunking without a trace),.. oralavu decent-aa irunthurukku pola.. in areas like Pondy, cuddalore..
oru varam ella thamizh padamum odum...ippo padhi screenslendhu thukitanga...praveen kanth oda thullal, agila ulaga varungala CM thalaiavar "RK" win "azhagar malai" kuda 1 week odichi with a 3 * rating by TOI...idhellam oru perumaya boss
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
NOV's movie of the year madhiri pola


..neenga vera subra'ram is considered the movie of the decade
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Anban
btw.. padam opening.. much better than expected (sunking without a trace),.. oralavu decent-aa irunthurukku pola.. in areas like Pondy, cuddalore..
oru varam ella thamizh padamum odum...ippo padhi screenslendhu thukitanga...praveen kanth oda thullal, agila ulaga varungala CM thalaiavar "RK" win "azhagar malai" kuda 1 week odichi with a 3 * rating by TOI...idhellam oru perumaya boss
cha cha, indha padam evalavu periya sacrifice and honesty on part of mysskin - indha padam release aanadhe vetri* dhaan.........
*chrompet vetri illaba
btw, innaikku Mysskin interview with suhasini on jayatv - ore yengleesu

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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Anban
btw.. padam opening.. much better than expected (sunking without a trace),.. oralavu decent-aa irunthurukku pola.. in areas like Pondy, cuddalore..
oru varam ella thamizh padamum odum...ippo padhi screenslendhu thukitanga...praveen kanth oda thullal, agila ulaga varungala CM thalaiavar "RK" win "azhagar malai" kuda 1 week odichi with a 3 * rating by TOI...idhellam oru perumaya boss
cha cha, indha padam evalavu periya sacrifice and honesty on part of mysskin -
indha padam release aanadhe vetri* dhaan.........
*chrompet vetri illaba
btw, innaikku Mysskin interview with suhasini on jayatv - ore yengleesu

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..regardnig english annan's dialouge in mahaprabhu comes to mind
arul pandiyan edho ayngaranaye indha padam kapathina madhiri pesinaru..the loses his villu,aegan,sarvam gave him..adhellam marandhutaru pola..he said"nandhalala
ivvolo periya vetri(chropet illa pa) adanjirkunu sonnaru...critically acclaimednu solli escape ayiruvainga pa...
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
I'd be surprised if thats what P_R is suggesting.
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 04:50 PM
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Maddy and raghav, apdiyE anbanai raavanan threadla pArthA mAdhiri irkku :dhrishti_suthi_pOttings:
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Maddy and raghav, apdiyE anbanai raavanan threadla pArthA mAdhiri irkku :dhrishti_suthi_pOttings:
ungala paakuradhukku raavanan thread suhasini dialaaksa ellam defend panna venkkiram madhriye irukku
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Plum
Maddy and raghav, apdiyE anbanai raavanan threadla pArthA mAdhiri irkku :dhrishti_suthi_pOttings:
ungala paakuradhukku raavanan thread suhasini dialaaksa ellam defend panna venkkiram madhriye irukku
enakku NMA thrdla surya,agenda pathi pesina pala hubbers madhiriye irukku :P
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 05:18 PM
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Athu enna Anban madhiri? It's not right to bring him into all the conversations.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 05:28 PM
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PR-oda post paathathukku appuram intha padam paakkura interest-ey poyiduchu.
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 05:31 PM
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I reread Flau's post. Now I think his point was to bring out the irony in AnbaR's name being targeted with a certain righteousness while we're all not any different ourselves. I have been saying that before as well. I don't find him disingenuous and backhanded.
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
I reread Flau's post. Now I think his point was to bring out the irony in AnbaR's name being targeted with a certain righteousness while we're all not any different ourselves. I have been saying that before as well. I don't find him disingenuous and backhanded.
that includes others also..adhedhan naanga sonnom
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Now I think his point was to bring out the irony in AnbaR's name being targeted with a certain righteousness
2 things here
1. Anban targets Mani/AR and AR fans not the other way round

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2. its our defence mechanism and with reasonable logic to brand "anban's posts as unneccessary and as a intruder in our threads........we are doing this as Maniratnam or AR fans not with any righteousness...........didnt kamal fans brand jaiganes as a cynic when he kept on criticising kamal - i dont think jaiganes was backhanded or ingenuine either - every fan would defend their favs from unnecessary bashing.........
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 06:05 PM
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Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:07 PM
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Venkkiram defended suhasini. nAn inge yaraiyum defend paNNalai. Nice try but illogical maddy.
As for raghav. His behaviour is no different from whazt has been despised in anban by people here. Adhu thappunnA idhuvum adhE dhAn. Adhu sarinnA idhu sari.
One thing anban does not do is hypocrisy - nInga adhaiyum paNdrInga(you can point fingers at me too). He doesnt whine at your targetting his favourites.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
neenga senja adhu nalla vishayam naanga senja adhu ingenuinity - KG, u have to think once as a Mani/AR fan on how we feel when Anban calls mani as sarakkku theerndhu pona guy in a RGV thread.........
model ruffian ellam unga coinage and imagination - Anban is pretty much a unneccessary and uninvited guest in maniratnam/AR threads -thats what we have been saying.......
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
after wat he did to raavanan and ARR thrds...?did u follow wat happened at that time?
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
As for raghav. His behaviour is no different from whazt has been despised in anban by people here. Adhu thappunnA idhuvum adhE dhAn. Adhu sarinnA idhu sari.
One thing anban does not do is hypocrisy - nInga adhaiyum paNdrInga(you can point fingers at me too). He doesnt whine at your targetting his favourites.
y shud v target his favs?...my posts on myshkin were based on the initial reviews to nandhalala..and replys to anban's posts..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Plum
As for raghav. His behaviour is no different from whazt has been despised in anban by people here. Adhu thappunnA idhuvum adhE dhAn. Adhu sarinnA idhu sari.
One thing anban does not do is hypocrisy - nInga adhaiyum paNdrInga(you can point fingers at me too). He doesnt whine at your targetting his favourites.
y shud v target his favs?...my posts on myshkin were based on the initial reviews to nandhalala..and replys to anban's posts..
adhavadhu padame paakkama 10 naala kalaikireenga..idhukku perthan agenda voda post pandradhu
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Plum
As for raghav. His behaviour is no different from whazt has been despised in anban by people here. Adhu thappunnA idhuvum adhE dhAn. Adhu sarinnA idhu sari.
One thing anban does not do is hypocrisy - nInga adhaiyum paNdrInga(you can point fingers at me too). He doesnt whine at your targetting his favourites.
y shud v target his favs?...my posts on myshkin were based on the initial reviews to nandhalala..and replys to anban's posts..
adhavadhu padame paakkama 10 naala kalaikireenga..idhukku perthan agenda voda post pandradhu
agenda podra alavuku myshkin na periya aala nenaikile...neengale pinnoki posts parunga..na mahen oda review postukku react pannen..adn then to no of screens its running..some of which r replies to anban's posts
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Venkkiram defended suhasini. nAn inge yaraiyum defend paNNalai.
but u r criticising any negative reviews like PR's as vaitherichal

Originally Posted by
Plum
As for raghav. His behaviour is no different from whazt has been despised in anban by people here. Adhu thappunnA idhuvum adhE dhAn. Adhu sarinnA idhu sari.
One thing anban does not do is hypocrisy - nInga adhaiyum paNdrInga(you can point fingers at me too). He doesnt whine at your targetting his favourites.
enna plum, avaru, ungalayum, ennayum paathu dhaan "
ivanunga ippadi dhaan"-nnu orumai sorkal-la ellam thitttirukkaaru.........adhu hypocrisy illaya???
as for Raghav - me and Raghav decided to attack this thread right from ravanan days because Anban cant just decide who is honest and who is tamil or not and support some poeople calling them honest and bash others saying they are dishonest..........neenga eppadi engala hypocrite-nnu prove panna try panreengalo, adhe madhiri dhaan naangalum Anban-oda philosophy-la irukkra holes-a expose panrom........
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:17 PM
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To me raghav does what anban does(caustic about some specific artists). That is perfectly acceptable to me. In addition, raghav whines about targetting his favs and does it ingenuously while anban doesnt bother about image and is in your face about it. Plus he doesnt spew self righteous rhetoric which is not something i see in R
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:19 PM
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There is nothing wrong in being sef righteous too - just that it is the one aspect that tends to get my goat than any other "vice". we are all imperfect, arent we?
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
neenga senja adhu nalla vishayam naanga senja adhu ingenuinity - KG, u have to think once as a Mani/AR fan on how we feel when
Anban calls mani as sarakkku theerndhu pona guy in a RGV thread.........
model ruffian ellam unga coinage and imagination - Anban is pretty much a unneccessary and uninvited guest in maniratnam/AR threads -thats what we have been saying.......
Yeah, I asked for clarification from him. Actually this view is (sadly but) uniformly endorsed by most. Avar open-a solraar. Silar reaction-ngra pErla innum worst-a (Mani-a pathi) solli irukkalam..
At least avar Suhasini Anil ambani oda heroine-a nadichu thaan Mani saar Reliance productions-ku work panradhA sollaliyE?!
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
To me raghav does what anban does(caustic about some specific artists). That is perfectly acceptable to me. In addition, raghav whines about targetting his favs and does it ingenuously while anban doesnt bother about image and is in your face about it. Plus he doesnt spew self righteous rhetoric which is not something i see in R
this is between me and anban..neenga edhuku ulla vareenga?...na pesakudadhuna anbanum pesa kudadhudhan...ellarukkum ore nyayam..ungala nattamaiya consider pannala
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:25 PM
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Maddy, that anban addressed us in orumai doesnt come in the way of me being objective about him. That's'him - in your face and honest about his opinions and i respect that. I dont necessarily agree with him on mani nor with his caustic words sometimes.
But i dont see a "planning from ravan days to disrupt myshkin thread because myshkin is anban's'favourite". You admitted as much just now. Again, this is not necessarily a vice. That is your choice and i respect the fact that you admitted it openly.
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
neenga senja adhu nalla vishayam naanga senja adhu ingenuinity - KG, u have to think once as a Mani/AR fan on how we feel when
Anban calls mani as sarakkku theerndhu pona guy in a RGV thread.........
model ruffian ellam unga coinage and imagination - Anban is pretty much a unneccessary and uninvited guest in maniratnam/AR threads -thats what we have been saying.......
At least avar Suhasini Anil ambani oda heroine-a nadichu thaan Mani saar Reliance productions-ku work panradhA sollaliyE?!
ipdi naanum sollala...kamal sruthiya thadirkalamnu dhan mean pannen...may b u shud reread it
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
To me raghav does what anban does(caustic about some specific artists). That is perfectly acceptable to me. In addition, raghav whines about targetting his favs and does it ingenuously while anban doesnt bother about image and is in your face about it. Plus he doesnt spew self righteous rhetoric which is not something i see in R
there is nothing self-righteous abt this - Anban attacked mani and AR unneccessarily and Raghav is responding back......yen raghav ippadi panraan-a adhu Anban senja mani/AR bashing-naaaa dhaan.......i dont see any whining in this - instead of reporting to kamal fans MODS -he is taking the fight to Anban directly
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:28 PM
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" Calling pr's'negative review as vayithericchal"
Enna maddy idhu chinna puLLa thanamA - surely you are not that incomprehending to know that was a light hearted jab at the hub culture of branding any naysayers as "vayatherichchal"? Come on, dont feign ignorance. I know you are too smart to have missed that. vERa yAraVadhunna, avanga en sarcasm purinjikkalainu nambalAm. I think you are too intelligent to have missed that
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 06:31 PM
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nAn avasarapattu IR threadla padam nallA irukkunu post senjittanO
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
But i dont see a "planning from ravan days to disrupt myshkin thread because myshkin is anban's'favourite". You admitted as much just now. Again, this is not necessarily a vice. That is your choice and i respect the fact that you admitted it openly.
yes, we wanted to show Anban how irritating it can be to enter someone else's party unneccessarily..........u see, just because i planned, i wasnt being ingenuine there - i was just being genuinely skeptical abt this movie and i know this movie was a wannabe fake attempt all the way through.......
as far as Anban's reaction in orumai - thats how he knows to react but thats indeed a reaction for our actions - why couldnt he just walk away from the discussions?

........he is no way righteous or non-hypocrite as u people claim to be......
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 5th December 2010 06:33 PM
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Appa dakargala ,
please continue ur gang wars outside the thread !
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
neenga senja adhu nalla vishayam naanga senja adhu ingenuinity - KG, u have to think once as a Mani/AR fan on how we feel when
Anban calls mani as sarakkku theerndhu pona guy in a RGV thread.........
model ruffian ellam unga coinage and imagination - Anban is pretty much a unneccessary and uninvited guest in maniratnam/AR threads -thats what we have been saying.......
Yeah, I asked for clarification from him. Actually this view is (sadly but) uniformly endorsed by most. Avar open-a solraar. Silar reaction-ngra pErla innum worst-a (Mani-a pathi) solli irukkalam..
ok, adha RGV thread-la solradhu desperation illaya??? ingenuinity illaya?? illa, neenga adha support panradhu ingenuinity illaya??
btw, still maniratnam is the king of directors in tamil - HUB also endorses it- pls refer best director threat polls
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 06:34 PM
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So, admittedly, this is a planned attempt to sling mud on myshkin and Nandhalala? NIngaLE othukittInga

Idhukku mEla solla enna irukku?
Raghav, nIngaLum pEsalAm, anbanum pEsalAm. Nanum pEsalAm. Ninga pAttukku self righteousA anban paNdradhaiyE paNNittu avaru kettavar naan nallavannu sollikOnga. NAn pAttukku idhu hypocrisnu sollikkaREn. NInga pAttukku nee nAttAmaiyAnu kELunga. PArkaravangaLukku nalla entertainment
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
So, admittedly, this is a planned attempt to sling mud on myshkin and Nandhalala? NIngaLE othukittInga

Idhukku mEla solla enna irukku?
If Nandhalala music was composed by a different music director indha reaction vandhurukadhunnu ninaikiren..main target myshkin illa
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
still maniratnam is the king of directors in tamil - HUB also endorses it- pls refer best director threat polls
adhu eppovume...
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Plum
So, admittedly, this is a planned attempt to sling mud on myshkin and Nandhalala? NIngaLE othukittInga

Idhukku mEla solla enna irukku?
If Nandhalala music was composed by a different music director indha reaction vandhurukadhunnu ninaikiren..main target myshkin illa

amam correctu main target myshkin illa...anban
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
" Calling pr's'negative review as vayithericchal"
Enna maddy idhu chinna puLLa thanamA - surely you are not that incomprehending to know that was a light hearted jab at the hub culture of branding any naysayers as "vayatherichchal"? Come on, dont feign ignorance. I know you are too smart to have missed that. vERa yAraVadhunna, avanga en sarcasm purinjikkalainu nambalAm. I think you are too intelligent to have missed that

thanks for calling me intelligent
Plum, ofcourse, i knew it was a light hearted jab - PR is ur fav writer etc etc but dont u think u wanted to say that to all "hypocrites" of the HUB and in a way trying to defend this film
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 06:40 PM
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Did Raghav / Maddy say anything bad about Nandhalala's music?
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
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Raghav, nIngaLum pEsalAm, anbanum pEsalAm. Nanum pEsalAm. Ninga pAttukku self righteousA anban paNdradhaiyE paNNittu avaru kettavar naan nallavannu sollikOnga. NAn pAttukku idhu hypocrisnu sollikkaREn. NInga pAttukku nee nAttAmaiyAnu kELunga. PArkaravangaLukku nalla entertainment

andha pakaravangalukku plum ipdidhan nadula thevai illama pundhu nattamai vela seivarnu theriyum..so seriousa eduthuka mattanga
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
So, admittedly, this is a planned attempt to sling mud on myshkin and Nandhalala? NIngaLE othukittInga

Idhukku mEla solla enna irukku?

Originally Posted by
Plum
Raghav, nIngaLum pEsalAm, anbanum pEsalAm. Nanum pEsalAm. Ninga pAttukku self righteousA anban paNdradhaiyE paNNittu avaru kettavar naan nallavannu sollikOnga. NAn pAttukku idhu hypocrisnu sollikkaREn. NInga pAttukku nee nAttAmaiyAnu kELunga. PArkaravangaLukku nalla entertainment


Originally Posted by
MADDY
u see, just because i planned, i wasnt being ingenuine there - i was just being genuinely skeptical abt this movie and i know this movie was a wannabe fake attempt all the way through.......
btw, how do u know Anban doesent plan attacks on AR/Mani threads - infact first poster in many new mani/AR film audio launces is Anban - i do have a doubt he does plan these things......he is being ineguine by not accepting these things.........u r also ingenuine when u assume Anban is not planning these things

Originally Posted by
Plum
Raghav, nIngaLum pEsalAm, anbanum pEsalAm. Nanum pEsalAm. Ninga pAttukku self righteousA anban paNdradhaiyE paNNittu avaru kettavar naan nallavannu sollikOnga. NAn pAttukku idhu hypocrisnu sollikkaREn. NInga pAttukku nee nAttAmaiyAnu kELunga. PArkaravangaLukku nalla entertainment

Originally Posted by
MADDY
there is nothing self-righteous abt this - Anban attacked mani and AR unneccessarily and Raghav is responding back......yen raghav ippadi panraan-a adhu Anban senja mani/AR bashing-naaaa dhaan.......i dont see any whining in this - instead of reporting to kamal fans MODS -he is taking the fight to Anban directly
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Brand-naming Jai as a cynic gives him a nice allure and isn't demeaning in the same way as Anban's been framed into 'model ruffian'.
neenga senja adhu nalla vishayam naanga senja adhu ingenuinity - KG, u have to think once as a Mani/AR fan on how we feel when
Anban calls mani as sarakkku theerndhu pona guy in a RGV thread.........
model ruffian ellam unga coinage and imagination - Anban is pretty much a unneccessary and uninvited guest in maniratnam/AR threads -thats what we have been saying.......
Yeah, I asked for clarification from him. Actually this view is (sadly but) uniformly endorsed by most. Avar open-a solraar. Silar reaction-ngra pErla innum worst-a (Mani-a pathi) solli irukkalam..
ok, adha RGV thread-la solradhu desperation illaya??? ingenuinity illaya?? illa, neenga adha support panradhu ingenuinity illaya??
btw, still maniratnam is the king of directors in tamil - HUB also endorses it- pls refer best director threat polls
Naan sila neram ingenuine thaan...naan othukuvEn.. But ithulla enna 'ingenuinity'? I didn't support his viewpoint.
On Mani, Raavan/-an threads has so many posts that seemed to echo that Mani's a write-off. I obviously disagree(d) with it!
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:45 PM
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MADDY
anban himself admitted his intentions on raavanan attacks
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From: kid-glove
on 5th December 2010 06:47 PM
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'wannabe fake attempt' - that's your opinion, Maddy. I see you're wholeheartedly concurring with P_R when you say 'i told u so' to his post. But he's just opposing your view. He found it to be a sincere attempt in all respects (and therefore says it's encouraging for aspiring filmmakers). His cynicism stems from questionable plausibility of different moments. And how it all came off as thoroughly off-key for him.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
Plum
So, admittedly, this is a planned attempt to sling mud on myshkin and Nandhalala? NIngaLE othukittInga

Idhukku mEla solla enna irukku?
If Nandhalala music was composed by a different music director indha reaction vandhurukadhunnu ninaikiren..main target myshkin illa

amam correctu main target myshkin illa...anban

nethi adi
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From: Roshan
on 5th December 2010 06:49 PM
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ANBAN appadinnu oru thread open paNNakoodiya aLavukku avara patthi discuss paNNi irukkeenga
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 06:53 PM
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anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 06:56 PM
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"Fools discuss behaviour. Wise discuss ideas" - Paulho Ceolho
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
"Fools discuss behaviour. Wise discuss ideas" - Paulho Ceolho
sari idha ippo edhukku soneenga?
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 06:58 PM
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That quote came to my mind when i read the discussion here.
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi. IRe bash pannanum..
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi...

adengappaa!
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan..
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi...

adengappaa!
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan..
Did Raghav / Maddy post anything about the work of IR in this thread / any other forum?
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 07:06 PM
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satya,
oru example tharren...that too from the perspective of a rajni fan..appothan correcta irukkum
If Rajni's endhiran is critically well acclaimed...its not necessary to bash rajni to pull down rajni. Shankar and the movie could also be bashed to pull down the movie. It is very much similar to Rajni bashing.
Naan innum endhiran movie paakkala...oru example kudutheen.
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 07:06 PM
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Some ideas need an anchor to be discussed. The anchor sometmes needs examples in terms of behaviour. Throwaway lines are nice to hear but one has got to have one's own ideas to transcend catchphrases like Coelho's
The whole point i was trying to make is about self-righteousness as an idea. Adhai purinjikkavum gnAnam vENumlayyA
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi...

adengappaa!
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...
IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan..
anban IR product?
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
satya,
oru example tharren...that too from the perspective of a rajni fan..appothan correcta irukkum
If Rajni's endhiran is critically well acclaimed...its not necessary to bash rajni to pull down rajni. Shankar and the movie could also be bashed to pull down the movie. It is very much similar to Rajni bashing.
Naan innum endhiran movie paakkala...oru example kudutheen.
similar - from the reader's POV. not necessarily the meaning as thought by the person who said / posted it illeengaLaa?
If Raghav / Maddy is targetting Nandhalala due to XYZ (from their own words), I do not take it as an attack on somebody else. Again this is IMO.
If you see it differently, then fine. thats your IMO.
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi...

adengappaa!
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...
IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan..
anban IR product?

Anban kooda prachanainaa direct-a private-a deal pannikonganu avar solvaar.
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 07:13 PM
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I dont think this has got anything to do with IR bashing. Admittedly, it is an anti-anban exercise, a well-planned and coordinated one at that. I find that believeable and can accept that no anti-IR agenda is intended. If someone wanted to discredit IR, they would have linked charu's'reviews illaiyA? Like in Endhiran and Ravanan thread, negative reviews were linked by the antis.
(Hint hint to Raghav - charu is a good source to irritate IR fans here in general and anban in particular

)
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
anban oru cover than...but at the back of the mind you people want to attack a movie which is advertised as an awesome movie - mainly because of IR's BGM...apdinu thonudhu
enekennamo anbana oru saakka use pandreengannu thonudhu...real intent could be the unanimous accolades IR is receiving for his work in the movie.
ellam oru assumption thaan

IRa bash pannanumna directa v wil go to IR section and do it,enna periya mattera...edhuku nandhalaala kulla poyi,myshkin kulla poyi,anban kulla poyi...

adengappaa!
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...
IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan..
anban IR product?

Anban kooda prachanainaa direct-a private-a deal pannikonganu avar solvaar.

adhayE, ellaa threadlayum imblement senjaa nalladhu nu nAn solrEn!
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan.
anban IR product?

Anban kooda prachanainaa direct-a private-a deal pannikonganu avar solvaar.

oh, Plum kitta nalla per vaangava?? yenpa indha stunt??
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
I dont think this has got anything to do with IR bashing. Admittedly, it is an anti-anban exercise, a well-planned and coordinated one at that. I find that believeable and can accept that no anti-IR agenda is intended. If someone wanted to discredit IR, they would have linked charu's'reviews illaiyA? Like in Endhiran and Ravanan thread, negative reviews were linked by the antis.
(Hint hint to Raghav - charu is a good source to irritate IR fans here in general and anban in particular

)
Perfect Manager
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
sathya_1979
adhayE, ellaa threadlayum imblement senjaa nalladhu nu nAn solrEn!
Itha ellaa threadliyum imblement panna hub-a moodittu pogavendiyaththaannu Blum solraar.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
(Hint hint to Raghav - charu is a good source to irritate IR fans here in general and anban in particular

)
Plum, me and Raghav watched "Paa" First Day second show just for IR
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
sathya_1979
adhayE, ellaa threadlayum imblement senjaa nalladhu nu nAn solrEn!
Itha ellaa threadliyum imblement panna hub-a moodittu pogavendiyaththaannu Blum solraar.
right ogay! kantinee the royal rumble!
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 07:17 PM
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plum,
arr fans mattum ir fans edhavadhu sonna vayitherichalnu sollalam..nammalum solli papome ..hehe
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 07:18 PM
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En kitta nalla pEru vAngi thambi RK_ku enna lAbam. Avaru dhAn combEni nadathuRAr. nAn dhAn avaru kitta nalla pEru vAnga muyaRchikkaNum
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan.
anban IR product?

Anban kooda prachanainaa direct-a private-a deal pannikonganu avar solvaar.

oh, Plum kitta nalla per vaangava?? yenpa indha stunt??

aamaama, avar company la velaiku apply pannirken, sibaarisukku avar venum, athaan.
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna

Originally Posted by
raghavendran

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
IR-s mattam thatradhum onnuthaan...IR oda important producta mattam thatradhum onnuthan.
anban IR product?

Anban kooda prachanainaa direct-a private-a deal pannikonganu avar solvaar.

oh, Plum kitta nalla per vaangava?? yenpa indha stunt??

aamaama, avar company la velaiku apply pannirken, sibaarisukku avar venum, athaan.
oho indha raththa aarule indha agenda vere irukka?
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
(Hint hint to Raghav - charu is a good source to irritate IR fans here in general and anban in particular

)
thevai illa
charu-va vida naangale nalla ezhudhuvom
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:25 PM
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Plum, ippa we attacked this thread and vivs branded us anti-IRs to shield this movie/thread - its but natural for a fan to do, u see........idha naanga - adhavadhu anban-a "vaitherichal on mani"nnu sonna - neenga yen ingenuine/self-righteous/hypocrisy point ellam edukkureenga?
i think we can move all these discussions to "critics and their confusion" thread - eppadi paathalum, Anban, naa, raghav, Plum, Vivs ellam critics dhaane :P
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From: sathya_1979
on 5th December 2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
Plum, ippa we attacked this thread and vivs branded us anti-IRs to shield this movie/thread - its but natural for a fan to do, u see........idha naanga - adhavadhu anban-a "vaitherichal on mani"nnu sonna - neenga yen ingenuine/self-righteous/hypocrisy point ellam edukkureenga?

avar oru Hub Moral Science Teacher
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From: Vivasaayi
on 5th December 2010 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
Plum, ippa we attacked this thread and vivs branded us anti-IRs to shield this movie/thread - its but natural for a fan to do, u see........idha naanga - adhavadhu anban-a "vaitherichal on mani"nnu sonna - neenga yen ingenuine/self-righteous/hypocrisy point ellam edukkureenga?
i think we can move all these discussions to "critics and their confusion" thread - eppadi paathalum, Anban, naa, raghav, Plum, Vivs ellam critics dhaane :P
maddy,
anban did that for a movie which was rejected by most people (raavanan)..neenga padam paakama nandhala(neraya per nalla irukkunnu sonna padam) threadla negative posts pandradhuthan idikudhu
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From: Ramakrishna
on 5th December 2010 07:31 PM
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One think i want to say about Anban
Anban is known for unnecessary provocations. One example - Once he said that kamal didn't sing well in Thenali and thats because of ARR's bad recording.
Yeah, i am bringing this to please Maddy and raghav.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
MADDY
Plum, ippa we attacked this thread and vivs branded us anti-IRs to shield this movie/thread - its but natural for a fan to do, u see........idha naanga - adhavadhu anban-a "vaitherichal on mani"nnu sonna - neenga yen ingenuine/self-righteous/hypocrisy point ellam edukkureenga?
i think we can move all these discussions to "critics and their confusion" thread - eppadi paathalum, Anban, naa, raghav, Plum, Vivs ellam critics dhaane :P
maddy,
anban did that for a movie which was rejected by most people (raavanan)
appadiya?? HUB is "all people"aa?? and most of HUbbers=most of peopleaa??
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi

Originally Posted by
MADDY
Plum, ippa we attacked this thread and vivs branded us anti-IRs to shield this movie/thread - its but natural for a fan to do, u see........idha naanga - adhavadhu anban-a "vaitherichal on mani"nnu sonna - neenga yen ingenuine/self-righteous/hypocrisy point ellam edukkureenga?
i think we can move all these discussions to "critics and their confusion" thread - eppadi paathalum, Anban, naa, raghav, Plum, Vivs ellam critics dhaane :P
maddy,
anban did that for a movie which was rejected by most people (raavanan)..neenga padam paakama nandhala(neraya per nalla irukkunnu sonna padam) threadla negative posts pandradhuthan idikudhu
vivs
anban did start bashing raavanan much b4 its release..he himself agreed this agenda of his..btw did he watch raavanan ?confirm pannikren
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:37 PM
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Arghh... I am up to this with these MD kudumipidi saNdais.
What next, evaluating films based on the quality of the spot-boy who supplied tea promptly.
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Logical a , i have some doubts .
1) In Thaai vasal ( or annai vayal _ i get confused which is for whom ) , MYsskin goes to a home where a lady pleads to Mysskin( the home where a kid will be playing in the front) . I couldn't get why it was . Is this a revelation that Mysskin comes to know about the kid's mother ?
SPOILER
It's his mother. Her husband doesn't know she had a son. Her pleading with Myshkin is to ensure the happy family is not broken. In the last scene the 'happy family' is driving and agi sees her, and lets the photo go
END SPOILER
adhu puriyaama padam eppidi pudikkalaam 'ngrEn.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Arghh... I am up to this with these MD kudumipidi saNdais.
What next, evaluating films based on the quality of the spot-boy who supplied tea promptly.
if U mods can stop provocations at the right time - these are avoidable.........
and also, this is not exactly a MD fight if u read through
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
Not at all. The film is good. It makes a lot of demand on patience. It is not pretentious, flawed or stupid. Just that the writing is very surface-y for my liking.
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Ramakrishna
PR-oda post paathathukku appuram intha padam paakkura interest-ey poyiduchu.

Actually give it a try. This is quite unlike any other film we get to see in Tamil or will get to see any time soon.
Sheesh..I thought I kept my nastiness under check !
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
raghavendran
adhavudhu angadi theru,madrasapattinam,subramaniyapuram etc andha varisayil idhuvum oru nalla padam..adhane solla vareenga?
Not at all. The film is good. It makes a lot of demand on patience. It is not pretentious, flawed or stupid. Just that the writing is very surface-y for my liking.
oh..

..padam pakkanum..
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From: venkkiram
on 5th December 2010 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
What next, evaluating films based on the quality of the spot-boy who supplied tea promptly.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
It makes a lot of demand on patience. It is not pretentious, flawed or stupid. Just that the writing is very surface-y for my liking.
u mean like swades or Jodha Akbar?
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
'wannabe fake attempt' - that's your opinion, Maddy. I see you're wholeheartedly concurring with P_R when you say 'i told u so' to his post. But he's just opposing your view. He found it to be a sincere attempt in all respects (and therefore says it's encouraging for aspiring filmmakers). His cynicism stems from questionable plausibility of different moments. And how it all came off as thoroughly off-key for him.
In fact I think I should just shut up for a few days with wisecracks and wait till many more people watch this film.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
kid-glove
'wannabe fake attempt' - that's your opinion, Maddy. I see you're wholeheartedly concurring with P_R when you say 'i told u so' to his post. But he's just opposing your view. He found it to be a sincere attempt in all respects (and therefore says it's encouraging for aspiring filmmakers). His cynicism stems from questionable plausibility of different moments. And how it all came off as thoroughly off-key for him.
In fact I think I should just shut up for a few days with wisecracks and wait till many more people watch this film.
feeyar is getting irritated

ban aanalum aaiduven, shut up-idren
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
P_R
It makes a lot of demand on patience. It is not pretentious, flawed or stupid. Just that the writing is very surface-y for my liking.
u mean like swades or Jodha Akbar?
JA I have not watched. It is rumoured that only Gowarikar has watched the full movie.
Swades is a good comparison point. NL is way way better than Swades. You ask how. Well, then we'll talk after you've watched the film :P
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY

Originally Posted by
P_R
In fact I think I should just shut up for a few days with wisecracks and wait till many more people watch this film.
feeyar is getting irritated

ban aanalum aaiduven, shut up-idren
hallOv. naan ennai chonnEn.
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From: MADDY
on 5th December 2010 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Swades is a good comparison point. NL is way way better than Swades. You ask how. Well, then we'll talk after you've watched the film :P
daily pesikkalaama, maasa maasam pesikkalaama :P
indhiya tholaikaatchigal-la mudhal murai-kku appram paarpom
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
MADDY
if U mods can stop provocations at the right time - these are avoidable.........

as long as you conduct your sanDais civilly (I consider this done so - me and my standerts !) then no problem. I may not like to read them but that's okay. Not everything needs to be interesting to everyone.

Originally Posted by
MADDY
and also, this is not exactly a MD fight if u read through
adhu maambazham idhu vaazhappazham
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From: Plum
on 5th December 2010 08:04 PM
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Btw Gowariker nee movie release aayirukku. Swades padathula saavariyAnu pAttu vechu rasigargaLukku warning koduthavar, indha padathukku "uyirOdu viLayAduvOm"-nu title vechu Warning koduthurukkAr. Idhai mEERi theatre pORavan nelamai?
P.s' i liked swades
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 08:05 PM
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MADDY, quite seriously Mynaa pOnRa guppy padangaL ellAm paakuradhukku (naan enga paarthEnnu kEkkappadaadhu, podhuvaa sonnEn), indha padam kaNdippA paakkalaam.
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 08:06 PM
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And MADDY, you forget I don't think much of your favorite 2001
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From: P_R
on 5th December 2010 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
P.s' i liked swades

TallyyE aagalaiyE
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From: raghavendran
on 5th December 2010 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
MADDY, quite seriously Mynaa pOnRa guppy padangaL ellAm paakuradhukku (naan enga paarthEnnu kEkkappadaadhu, podhuvaa sonnEn), indha padam kaNdippA paakkalaam.
na pakren..possibly tomorrow...
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 5th December 2010 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
In fact I think I should just shut up for a few days with wisecracks and wait till many more people watch this film.
innum few daysla intha pdathoda postera kooda paakka mudiyaathu!!
Tamil Audience
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 6th December 2010 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Logical a , i have some doubts .
SPOILER
END SPOILER
adhu puriyaama padam eppidi pudikkalaam 'ngrEn.

Thanks .idhu enakku kozappam thaan . I too thought that when the scene came , but the photo which agi has sngehida in it, with the kai kuzandhai - that totally confused me .Especially, there is a scene where Sngehida runs to get the photo what Agi has , but does not see it - i thought that was deliberately done, if you see the BGM for it .
Isn't it ? (or) do i have agnosia ???????? ( OK OK ... i do find difficult to remember faces !)
PS : Liking a movie is based on many factors. As i said earlier , i loved the movie for the visuals and not for its twists ! I don't think i got the movie full !
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From: P_R
on 6th December 2010 08:21 AM
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SPOILER

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
but the photo which agi has sngehida in it, with the kai kuzandhai - that totally confused me .
That wasn't Snigdha in the photo.

Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Especially, there is a scene where Sngehida runs to get the photo what Agi has , but does not see it - i thought that was deliberately done, if you see the BGM for it .
idhukku dhaan BGM ellAm gavanikkavE koodAdhu 'ngradhu
PS: yeah I know many are able to do that. enakku fullA puriyalainnA udanE pudikkAma pOyirum, that's why I was wondering.
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 6th December 2010 08:29 AM
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P_R , are you sure ??? mmm , my sense of recognising faces is very bad then !!!
Others , is it so ?
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From: Plum
on 6th December 2010 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
Plum
P.s' i liked swades

TallyyE aagalaiyE
MusicyA - ungaLukku piriyAdhu. Writing, actinglAM mIRi, engaLukkellAm music padathOda ondRi iNainju vandhA, OraLavukku pidikkin...and Saarug wasnt half-bad in this, and Gowariker's sincerity, batriotism, slow rhythm all suited perfectly for this story. nAngaLLAM poonthottam, poomaNiyE above averagenu nenaikkaravanga - purely based on the music(note: not just individual songs and their itemness, but the overall integration of BGM and songs into the movie)
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From: Ramakrishna
on 6th December 2010 10:17 AM
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ithu vanja pugazhchi maarikeethu
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From: P_R
on 6th December 2010 10:19 AM
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sari confli, padam paathuttaar. ezhudha maatraar.
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From: Plum
on 6th December 2010 10:23 AM
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confli ezhudharadhOda "ezhudha pOREn"-nu ezhudharadhu dhAnE more common?
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From: directhit
on 6th December 2010 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
It makes a lot of demand on patience. It is not pretentious, flawed or stupid. Just that the writing is very surface-y for my liking.
oh, in comparison with kikujiro, slow?!

Originally Posted by
P_R
JA I have not watched. It is rumoured that only Gowarikar has watched the full movie.
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From: raajarasigan
on 6th December 2010 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
P_R , are you sure ??? mmm , my sense of recognising faces is very bad then !!!
Others , is it so ?
Ramki, did you mean it is none other than Snigtha in Agi's photo? AFAIK, NO.. it is her original mother i.e. the lady who apologies to myskin
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 6th December 2010 01:46 PM
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RR ,
Thanks . Such a small assumption confused me
I will see it once more ..first time only visuals and music stayed - if somebody asks me to narrate the story , i have to say ' he he '

))
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From: Sanjeevi
on 6th December 2010 01:51 PM
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MR, wondering how u enjoyed/missed the awesome climax then
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 6th December 2010 03:19 PM
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Sanjeevi ,
To be very honest , i never followed the story in whole . I was just connecting to the individual scenes , visuals and the music . I was memserised by visuals . There is this scene ( end of onnukunnu song) where the lorry and (Myskin & kid) take different paths . That shot to me appeared as though the lorry was living embodiment of love - well , may be u can laugh, but thats how i felt for that scene ( espw ith thalivar's music )
My version of the understanding of the climax is that the kid and the prostitute found a mother/son , without knowing they were really were . So emotion wise , it was the same - except that the photo confused me a bit .
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From: Sanjeevi
on 6th December 2010 05:55 PM
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MR, ippadi movie-i bit bit-a shot shot-a rasikkurathu oru kalai than but generally I am comfortable to notice these things during 2nd or next time (because first time reserved for general audience in me). And also there is no wonder that you have been bowled over by the splendid visuals/shots of Nandalala.
In fact, intially, i was bit irritated by the அழகியல் of shots/visuals by few things 1) bowed heads 2) sticked characters in screen without movements, etc. But slowly I entered into the screen and mingled with the movie. That is marvelous experience for audience (like me) and victory of Myskin.
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From: SoftSword
on 6th December 2010 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
Sanjeevi ,
To be very honest , i never followed the story in whole . I was just connecting to the individual scenes , visuals and the music . I was memserised by visuals . There is this scene ( end of onnukunnu song) where the lorry and (Myskin & kid) take different paths . That shot to me appeared as though the lorry was living embodiment of love - well , may be u can laugh, but thats how i felt for that scene ( espw ith thalivar's music )
My version of the understanding of the climax is that the kid and the prostitute found a mother/son , without knowing they were really were . So emotion wise , it was the same - except that the photo confused me a bit .
sometimes such astounding visual treatments can mislead the audience that he confuses with the simple storyline
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From: app_engine
on 6th December 2010 11:14 PM
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எந்திரலாலா
சரி, விஷயத்திற்கு வரலாம். ‘மனிதன் உருவாக்கும் ரோபோ காதலித்தால்?’ இந்த ஒரே ஒரு வரி ஒற்றுமையை வைத்துக்கொண்டு, எந்திரனை காப்பி, காப்பி என்று எத்தனை பெரிய மனிதர்கள் சொன்னார்கள்? அந்த மானஸ்தர்களெல்லாம் எங்கு சென்றார்கள்? இங்கு கிட்டத்தட்ட ஷாட் பை ஷாட் ஒருவர் அடித்திருக்கிறார். ஆனால், என்ன சொல்கிறார்கள்? ஐப்பான் படத்தில் அந்த காட்சியை லாங் ஷாட்டில் எடுத்திருக்கிறார்கள். இங்கு க்ளோஸ் அப்பில் எடுத்திருக்கிறார்களாம். அதனால், இது லைட்டான தழுவலாம். ஒரிஜினலுக்கு செய்யப்பட்ட சரியான மரியாதையாம். சாமிங்களா, உங்களுக்கே ஓவரா தெரியலை? நீங்க சொன்னத பார்த்துட்டு, மிஷ்கின் “அச்சச்சோ, அந்த இடத்துல சரியா கவனிக்காம கேமராவ வைச்சுட்டோமோ?”ன்னு வருத்தப்பட போறாரு!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 7th December 2010 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
from same article
எந்த கிராமத்தில், ஒரு மனநிலை பாதிக்கப்பட்ட பெண்ணை, டி-சர்ட் & ஹாஃப் ட்ரவுசருடன் கட்டிப்போட்டிருக்கிறார்கள்? ஜப்பான் படத்தில் அப்படி போட்டிருந்தார்களா, என்ன?
sappaan padathula appadi oru climax e
kidayaathu
btw, padathoda marketing level, reach poruthu thaan ethirppum!! erkanave nontha noodles aayitaanga!! ithula ithu vera, engala thittinaanga, avangala thittalaiyaamaam!!
btw, amount of originality & logic in nandalaalaa >> enthiran
while enthiran is praised for its effort and granduer, nandalala is praised for this. i dont see any problem..
above all, adicha copykku miskinai ellaa reviewersum (both bloggers and media) 'paaraatti' thalittaanga! ithu pothatha
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From: gurusaravanan
on 7th December 2010 12:42 AM
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good movie,,,, antha chinna paiyyan actin sema....
especially climax la,,,, nxt mysskin padathuku waitin.... YUTHAM SEI
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From: gurusaravanan
on 7th December 2010 12:43 AM
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From: gurusaravanan
on 7th December 2010 12:44 AM
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 7th December 2010 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
app_engine
from same article
எந்த கிராமத்தில், ஒரு மனநிலை பாதிக்கப்பட்ட பெண்ணை, டி-சர்ட் & ஹாஃப் ட்ரவுசருடன் கட்டிப்போட்டிருக்கிறார்கள்? ஜப்பான் படத்தில் அப்படி போட்டிருந்தார்களா, என்ன?
<dig>
I just remember what Mysskin told about the Assistant directors .Experiences in life are so varied. My own grandma , who lost part of her memory and daily interactions was in shirt and kind of phant/pavadai (sometimes) for last 5 years - only, we took care of her in our home, looking after her like a 3 year old with care , love & affection . I have seen a 15 year old mad girl being tied to a chair in my opposite house .
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From: raghavendran
on 8th December 2010 08:02 PM
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spectacular film...
vera onnum solradhuku illa
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From: jaiganes
on 8th December 2010 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
spectacular film...
vera onnum solradhuku illa
Good...
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From: irir123
on 8th December 2010 08:37 PM
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inga americavila, kuppan suppan edukkara, hindi, telugu, malayalam padamellaam AMC chain theatres liye release aagudhu!
NANDHALALA is not being screened in even regular desi halls!
eksi
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From: raghavendran
on 8th December 2010 08:46 PM
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nandhalaala
i never felt i am watching a film..it was like reading a novel or someone narrating a story...i didnt want the interval to come actually
whether it is the direction finesse or the performances of the entire cast or the cinematography or the music i dunno..which made this film so gripping..
beginning 20 mins lot of scenes conveyed wat the scene is all about and the story moved forward with camera angles and expressions without much dialouges..after that i started looking for something which is to be conveyed that way in every scene..
the way mysskin symbolizes things is amazing...the beginning shot of every scene began in a unfamiliar way(atleast to me)..
the main characters of the film.a mad man,a child,a sex worker..actors playing them can easily over act these characters...but never dramatized one bit..all were subtle..just cant imagine anyone else in this world doin this role other than mysskin..
Ilaiyaraja was the only familiar person in the film b4 i watched it..BGM's were outa the world..esp that one piece which comes everytime wen agi and bhaskar mani start walkin/travel to their destination,he is the biggest plus of the film,
i was fearing that the movie would have a sad,tragic ending..but thanx to mysskin to end it in a positive way..
how much a director can showcase his talents in one film?..mysskin has done it all in this one...
the response was tremendous..the film hadlot of silent moments..but no comments or cat calls came..all were glued to the film..it was like all were under the wizadry wand of mysskin
the film is defenitely not seen before film in tamizh cinema
history..this one wil go down as one of the best made films ever..
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From: jaiganes
on 8th December 2010 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
nandhalaala
i never felt i am watching a film..it was like reading a novel or someone narrating a story...i didnt want the interval to come actually
whether it is the direction finesse or the performances of the entire cast or the cinematography or the music i dunno..which made this film so gripping..
beginning 20 mins lot of scenes conveyed wat the scene is all about and the story moved forward with camera angles and expressions without much dialouges..after that i started looking for something which is to be conveyed that way in every scene..
the way mysskin symbolizes things is amazing...the beginning shot of every scene began in a unfamiliar way(atleast to me)..
the main characters of the film.a mad man,a child,a sex worker..actors playing them can easily over act these characters...but never dramatized one bit..all were subtle..just cant imagine anyone else in this world doin this role other than mysskin..
Ilaiyaraja was the only familiar person in the film b4 i watched it..BGM's were outa the world..esp that one piece which comes everytime wen agi and bhaskar mani start walkin/travel to their destination,he is the biggest plus of the film,
i was fearing that the movie would have a sad,tragic ending..but thanx to mysskin to end it in a positive way..
how much a director can showcase his talents in one film?..mysskin has done it all in this one...
the response was tremendous..the film hadlot of silent moments..but no comments or cat calls came..all were glued to the film..it was like all were under the wizadry wand of mysskin
the film is defenitely not seen before film in tamizh cinema
history..this one wil go down as one of the best made films ever..

appadi podu aruvaaLa..
No wonder Mysskin gushes about himself and his work..
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From: raajarasigan
on 8th December 2010 09:53 PM
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ragavendran IDya yaarachum hack pannittaangala...
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From: kid-glove
on 8th December 2010 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
ragavendran IDya yaarachum hack pannittaangala...

Same peeling here!
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From: varunlss12
on 8th December 2010 10:15 PM
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Padam oru varam thaan odirukku... theatre karangla thappu sollava... makkala thappu solradha theriyala.... chikku bukku released in 4 theatres... kaduvule....
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From: SoftSword
on 9th December 2010 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
nandhalaala
i never felt i am watching a film..it was like reading a novel or someone narrating a story...

exactly what i wrote abt the treatment.
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From: MumbaiRamki
on 9th December 2010 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
varunlss12
Padam oru varam thaan odirukku... theatre karangla thappu sollava... makkala thappu solradha theriyala.... chikku bukku released in 4 theatres... kaduvule....
Thankfully both RC and chikku Bukku didn't go well .. Hence even if new films come this week , nandhalala wills tick to current positon !
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 9th December 2010 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
raghavendran
nandhalaala
i never felt i am watching a film..it was like reading a novel or someone narrating a story...i didnt want the interval to come actually
whether it is the direction finesse or the performances of the entire cast or the cinematography or the music i dunno..which made this film so gripping..
beginning 20 mins lot of scenes conveyed wat the scene is all about and the story moved forward with camera angles and expressions without much dialouges..after that i started looking for something which is to be conveyed that way in every scene..
the way mysskin symbolizes things is amazing...the beginning shot of every scene began in a unfamiliar way(atleast to me)..
the main characters of the film.a mad man,a child,a sex worker..actors playing them can easily over act these characters...but never dramatized one bit..all were subtle..just cant imagine anyone else in this world doin this role other than mysskin..
Ilaiyaraja was the only familiar person in the film b4 i watched it..BGM's were outa the world..esp that one piece which comes everytime wen agi and bhaskar mani start walkin/travel to their destination,he is the biggest plus of the film,
i was fearing that the movie would have a sad,tragic ending..but thanx to mysskin to end it in a positive way..
how much a director can showcase his talents in one film?..mysskin has done it all in this one...
the response was tremendous..the film hadlot of silent moments..but no comments or cat calls came..all were glued to the film..it was like all were under the wizadry wand of mysskin
the film is defenitely not seen before film in tamizh cinema
history..this one wil go down as one of the best made films ever..

Good review.. thanks..
Indha padattha Bangalore-la release panna mattraingale
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From: VJerry
on 9th December 2010 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan

Originally Posted by
raghavendran
nandhalaala
i never felt i am watching a film..it was like reading a novel or someone narrating a story...i didnt want the interval to come actually
whether it is the direction finesse or the performances of the entire cast or the cinematography or the music i dunno..which made this film so gripping..
beginning 20 mins lot of scenes conveyed wat the scene is all about and the story moved forward with camera angles and expressions without much dialouges..after that i started looking for something which is to be conveyed that way in every scene..
the way mysskin symbolizes things is amazing...the beginning shot of every scene began in a unfamiliar way(atleast to me)..
the main characters of the film.a mad man,a child,a sex worker..actors playing them can easily over act these characters...but never dramatized one bit..all were subtle..just cant imagine anyone else in this world doin this role other than mysskin..
Ilaiyaraja was the only familiar person in the film b4 i watched it..BGM's were outa the world..esp that one piece which comes everytime wen agi and bhaskar mani start walkin/travel to their destination,he is the biggest plus of the film,
i was fearing that the movie would have a sad,tragic ending..but thanx to mysskin to end it in a positive way..
how much a director can showcase his talents in one film?..mysskin has done it all in this one...
the response was tremendous..the film hadlot of silent moments..but no comments or cat calls came..all were glued to the film..it was like all were under the wizadry wand of mysskin
the film is defenitely not seen before film in tamizh cinema
history..this one wil go down as one of the best made films ever..

Good review.. thanks..
Indha padattha Bangalore-la release panna mattraingale

I don't think it will be released soon. Later it may come to few 2nd release theatres....Avlo thaan inga.
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From: Plum
on 9th December 2010 11:55 AM
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raghav

- for the objective review.
Let's hope anban comes with a similar review for nadunisi nAygaL next
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From: raghavendran
on 9th December 2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove

Originally Posted by
raajarasigan
ragavendran IDya yaarachum hack pannittaangala...

Same peeling here!

padam pudichirndha opena solradhula thayanga matten
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From: ajaybaskar
on 9th December 2010 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
raghav

- for the objective review.
Let's hope anban comes with a similar review for nadunisi nAygaL next

Y? Anban likes GVM, right? If he comes with a similar review for the next Mani movie, then i would have a mild attack..
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From: raghavendran
on 9th December 2010 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
Y? Anban likes GVM, right? If he comes with a similar review for the next Mani movie, then i would have a mild attack..

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From: gurusaravanan
on 9th December 2010 02:54 PM
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From: venkkiram
on 12th December 2010 10:02 AM
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From: ajaybaskar
on 13th December 2010 10:02 AM
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Ju Vi reports that Mysskin's next venture 'Yudham Sei' is a remake of 'Memories of murder'.
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From: kid-glove
on 13th December 2010 10:08 AM
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From: kid-glove
on 13th December 2010 10:09 AM
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And seeing that it's Mysskin's direction, it'll most definitely won't be a 'remake'..
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From: ajaybaskar
on 13th December 2010 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Why not?
No offence meant.. Just thought of sharing..
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 13th December 2010 10:31 AM
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Idhulayum avarae nadikkappoararaa..
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From: ajaybaskar
on 13th December 2010 10:33 AM
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Cheran yerkanave nadikka arambichchuttar!!
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From: Cinemarasigan
on 13th December 2010 10:50 AM
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Oh.. I think for this movie he was in discussion with Kamal...
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From: ajaybaskar
on 13th December 2010 10:51 AM
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No.. It was about Buddha's stolen tooth.
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From: Anban
on 13th December 2010 12:15 PM
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finally saw the movie at 6 degrees yday evening..
what a moving experience
nerudals:
1. kaluthu kuninju nikkurathu..
2. kaal keelaye camera odurathu..
both of the above over done.. korachukkanum.. illaina, Mani padam maathiri cliched movies aayidum..
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From: ajaybaskar
on 13th December 2010 12:18 PM
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The 2nd nerudal is Mysskin's trademark.
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From: Anban
on 13th December 2010 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
ajaybaskar
The 2nd nerudal is Mysskin's trademark.
its not a negative.. but ithey maathiri ellaa padathulayum irunthaa nalla irukkaathu..
the director's meet on Nandhalala in Kalaignar tv raised these two issues.. they were just spot on..
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From: app_engine
on 13th December 2010 10:42 PM
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செடி மழை

Originally Posted by
Cable Sankar
மீண்டும் இளையராஜாவை பற்றி வசை பாடியிருக்கிறார் சாரு. ஒரு வருஷம் முன்புதான் இளையராஜாவுக்கு இசையமைக்கவே தெரியாதென்று சொன்னவர்,,,,நந்தலாலாவை மிஷ்கினின் வீட்டில் வீடியோவில் பார்த்துவிட்டு, உலகதரத்தில் இசை அமைத்திருக்கிறார். இளையராஜா என்று எழுதி ஒரு வருடம் கூட ஆகவில்லை. இப்போது அதே படத்தின் கடைசி இருபது நிமிடங்கள் தவிர மற்றதெல்லாம் மொக்கை இசையாம். கடைசி இருபது நிமிடங்கள் உலக இசையமைக்க தெரிந்தவருக்கு படம் முழுக்க இசையமைக்க தெரியாதா..? இல்லை உலக அளவில் ஒரு சிறந்த இயக்குனராக சாருவால் புகழப்படும் மிஷ்கினுக்குத்தான் அவரிடமிருந்து நல்ல இசையை வாங்க முடியாதா..? இல்லை ஒரு வேளை சாருவின் இசை அறிவு தான் ஒரு வருடத்தில் முன்னேறி விட்டதா..? ஜேசுதாஸ் பாடியதை கிண்டலடித்திருக்கும் சாருவுக்கு ஒரு விஷயம் தெரிந்திருக்கும் படத்தில் மொத்தம் ஐந்து பாடல்கள் கம்போஸ் செய்யப்பட்டு கடைசியில் மூன்றுபாடல்கள் மட்டுமே பயன்படுத்தப் பட்டது உலகத்தரத்தில் இருக்கும் படத்தில் மொக்கை ராமராஜன் பாடல் வேண்டாம் என்று மற்ற இரண்டு பாடல்களை எடுத்தது போல இதையும் எடிட் செய்து போட்டிருக்கலாமே..? நான் இதை பற்றி எழுத வேண்டாம் என்று நினைத்தேன். ஏனென்றால் நீங்கள் எதை எதிர்பார்த்து இதை எழுதினீர்களோ? அது நடப்பதை நான் விரும்பாவிட்டாலும் சொல்லாமல் இருக்க முடியவில்லை. கிழே உள்ள் வரிகள் சாரு அவர்கள் எழுதியது. அது அவருக்கும் பொருந்தும் என்று தோன்றுகிறது.
//ஆனால் நம் வாழ்வில் அப்படி நாம் பார்ப்பது இல்லை. நாமேதான் ஹீரோவாகவும், வில்லனாகவும், காமெடியெனாகவும், துரோகியாகவும், காதலனாகவும், சமயங்களில் மனநிலை பிறழ்ந்தவர்களாகவும் வாழ்ந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறோம்.//
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From: app_engine
on 13th December 2010 11:30 PM
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பின் நவீனத்துவம்

Originally Posted by
rozavasanth
இதே போன்று திரைக்கதை சார்ந்து இன்னும் அடுக்கலாம் என்றாலும் அதைவிட முக்கியம் மிஷ்கினை விட பெரிய எழுத்துக்களை சொந்தமாக்கிக் கொண்ட இளையராஜாவின் இசை.
உலகம் காணாத அதிசயம் இந்த திரைப்படத்தின் இசை என்று பலர் சொல்லிவிட்டார்கள். அதற்கு எதிராக இளையராஜாவிற்கு இசை அமைக்கவே தெரியவில்லை என்கிற முதல் விமர்சனத்தை எழுத்தாளர் சாரு நிவேதிதா பொதுவெளியில் முன்வைத்தார். சாருநிவேதிதாவின் கருத்தை உள்வாங்கி எதிரொலித்து மேலும் சில வாசிப்புகள் வந்தன. (இங்கே பிரபல இசை விமரசகர் ஷாஜி சாரு நிவேதிதா மூலம் ஒரு விமர்சன பிரதியையும், ஜெயமோகன் மூலம் அதற்கு நேரெதிரான பிரதியையும் உருவாக்குவது இன்னொரு மாய மொழிவிளையாட்டு (Magical Language Game).)
படம் வெளியாவதற்கு முன்னால் மிஷ்கினுடன் அளித்த பேட்டியில் இளையராராஜா 'ரீ ரெகார்டிங்கில் இசையமைப்பதை விட மௌனமாக இருக்க தெரிவதே முக்கியம்' என்கிறார். மிஷ்கின் தான் பல பக்கங்கள் எழுதி, முயற்சி செய்து, பின் வீண் என வசனத்தை கைவிட்டு, இளையராஜாவின் இசையை மட்டும் ஓரிடத்தில் இருக்க செய்ததாக சொல்கிறார். அதற்கு பதில் சொல்லும்போதும் இளையராஜா ஸைலண்டாக சில இடங்களில் இருப்பதை முக்கியமாக சொல்கிறார். ஆனால் படைப்பாளி படைப்பை உருவாக்குவதில்லை என்பதுடன், படைப்பை பற்றி விளக்கமளிக்கும் உரிமையும் இழந்தவனாகிறான்; படைப்புருவாக்கத்தில் நாம் வாசக பங்களிப்பையே மீண்டும் கணக்கில் கொள்ள வேண்டியுள்ளது. இதனால் அமைதியாக இருக்க வேண்டிய கட்டத்தில் எல்லாம் நாராசமாக இளையராஜா இசைத்ததாக உருவான வாசிப்பையும் நாம் அங்கீகரிக்க வேண்டியுள்ளது. மீண்டும் பின் அமைப்பியல் ஜனநாயக பூர்வமாக பார்த்தோமானால், இளையராஜா இசை உலகத்தரம் என்கிற நிலையிலும், காட்சி ஒழுங்கை குலைக்கும் நாராசம் என்கிற எதிர் நிலையிலும் சம நியாயங்களுடன், சம நிகழ்தகவு கொண்ட சாத்தியங்களுடன் இயங்குவதை உணரலாம். (இங்கே 'உலகத் தரம்' என்பது தமிழ் பண்பாட்டு சூழல் சார்ந்த ஒரு சொல் என்பதை நாம் நினைவில் இருத்த வேண்டும்.)
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From: raghavendran
on 14th December 2010 06:39 PM
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wen asked abt his future projects in java tv interview mysskin said he has 8 scripts in hand...an action film with aarya,a periodic film abt a women soldier,plans of doin a film with ajith with no fights..
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From: Plum
on 14th December 2010 06:55 PM
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Note for feeyar:
In that interview, IR says
"What you cannot convey in pages of dialogues can be conveyed by music. Sometimes dialogues are unnecessary. Ofcourse, where you maintain silence is an art that needs to be mastered"
There is firm conviction there that he as the MD can tell the story effectively replacing the dialogues where necessary. Supreme confidence in his craft.
Actually, he didnt need to say that - his music has conveyed that message often. But glad to hear from the horse's mouth - kind of validates the telepathic transmission of the same thoughts through his music, BGM in the past.
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From: Anban
on 14th December 2010 07:06 PM
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the interval block scene is a perfect example of the above post...
but the director needs to be given credit for constructing it in such a way...
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From: kid-glove
on 14th December 2010 07:45 PM
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ennathaan meesic pottalum, you can't make something that's not already there in the film (this is F_R's point). In a way, it's only an 'instructive' tool.
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From: HonestRaj
on 14th December 2010 07:47 PM
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ada.. ennoda post kaanama poyiduchu.. adhu oru yadhartha comedynga
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From: P_R
on 15th December 2010 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Note for feeyar:
naanbAttukku sivanEnnu pOyikittu irukkEn. ennai edhukku vambadiyA koopidureenga

Originally Posted by
Plum
But glad to hear from the horse's mouth - kind of validates the telepathic transmission of the same thoughts through his music, BGM in the past.
The intree was quite a 'oho...appo ivanga ellAm solradhu uNmai dhaan pOla irukku' to me
I have always though 'naan paadhi kadhai sonnA, avar meedhi kadhai solvaar' as a 'word of praise'. I've hardly ever felt it to be true in itself to consider otherwise.
As I said in a PM to you, I can't understand music being particular. It is, by its very nature larger than whatever contexts to which it is being applied in films (or whatever contexts IR had when creating it).
Let me say it: I don't believe puthra sOgam and louu faileer have definitonally different music. It is just that the music so created is found appropriate by us. We have seen it coupled and find it exact an appealing. We see so many 'just the right shade' comments. Do we ever see 'it was a couple of shades off' comments ? (udanE, it is never even 'one shade' off nu sollAdheenga

)
What I mean is, we find it coupled, find it exhiliratingly appropriate. That is it.
The only place I was aware of a piece of music in the film is when Myshkin scales the asylum walls. Will it not go well with any thrilling chase scene in any other film ? i.e. can the selfsame music not tell 'another story' (assuming it 'tells' some story in the first place). Sure as hell yeah, if you ask me.
Music can, at best, to me (adhAvadhu enakku) enhance whatever emotions are already there. It can paint with colour, enhance, giving the exact rush of emotion, cue you to feel in a certain way.
'In some places music replaced dialogue' ellAm quite

for me.
yEdhO solraanga, kEttukkaREn.
Anyway, my opinion expressed here earlier was only about the predominant mention of BGM in the media reviews. Meesicalsukku pidichuttu pOvudhu, adhai pathi oNNum prachanai illai. First time watchers being able to recognize BGM ellAm quite

for me. Technology has improved so much ah..type surprise, that's all.
Anyway, Flau, intree ellAm sari, padam paathAchchA?
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From: SoftSword
on 15th December 2010 03:02 PM
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PR to Plum: isai engerundhu varudhu??!
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From: Plum
on 15th December 2010 03:21 PM
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Anyway, Flau, intree ellAm sari, padam paathAchchA
No....indha vAra iRudhiyum away on training...satellite rights with which TV?
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 15th December 2010 03:46 PM
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In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
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From: Plum
on 15th December 2010 03:51 PM
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'In some places music replaced dialogue' ellAm quite for me.
yEdhO solraanga, kEttukkaREn.
kEttukkaNum. This was a case of confirmation for me. nAn apdi thAn nenaichEn - till he confirmed it, it was my imagination, my guess. Now he has said it, I think it is a connection. ungaLukku connect Agalai. neraiya pErukku Avudhu
(Ofcourse, there are people who praise the BGM because it is fashionable and makes them look "intelligent" and in some cases nowadays, praising the BGM is for peer pressure - adhu vERa vishayam. )
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From: P_R
on 15th December 2010 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
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From: irir123
on 15th December 2010 07:16 PM
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IMHO, the very fact that someone like Mysskin has to specifically talk about IR's music as a backbone for a script speaks volumes of the appalling lack of coherent/decent scripts that deserve some effort on the part of any decent composer - ippa varra scripts simply dont deserve IR's inputs at all
i recently watched a whodunit-political thriller "The Ghost Writer" - an unsolved murder of a ghost writer penning for a politician, in a remote island, the dead man's replacement decides to find out why he died, goes around asking questions, strange/mysterious neighbors who speak cryptically, wind lashed beaches, hail stones, grey skies, all enhancing the sombre mood and the poignant tone of the script - Alexandre Desplat an upcoming promising composer in the league of Hollywood greats has done a terrific job doing ample justice to the script
check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fhyC...eature=related
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 15th December 2010 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
நாலு பேர் தூங்கும் இடத்தில ஒரு மலைப்பாம்பு "மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து தேரு போல" போகும்! சவுண்டு மியூட் பண்ணிட்டு கேட்டா, முதல் கணம், பாம்பு எதோ நாசம் பண்ணப்போகுதோன்னு தான் தோணும். ஆனா படத்தின் மைய இசையை இங்கும் (சற்று மாறுபட்டு) இசைததனால், பாம்பு தீங்கு செய்யப்போவதில்லை என்று மட்டும் அல்ல, வேறு எதற்கோ அதை காட்டியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் என்று புரியும். அந்த காட்சியில் ஸ்நிகிதா மிஸ்கின் பேசின வசனமும் செய்கையும் பாதிக்காதவர்களுக்கு கூட இந்த பாம்பு காட்சி, எதோ உரைக்கும். காரணம் இசை.
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From: jaiganes
on 15th December 2010 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
I donno about this movie.. but Kadhalukku mariyaadhai climax is a case in point...
Setting: hero - heroini meeting after they decided to part ways. they are cool about it on the surface, but there is walk on the knife.. Their second level family members try to take it cool (kids, bulldog brothers, Mr.Raajasegar). First level family members, the alpha females of either families have a dilemma. The POV changes from that of hero and heroini to that of the alpha females.. Now there is very little that goes by dialogue that says anything as to what the characters are 'thinking' and 'feeling'. Tensun buildup is palpable - that tensun buildup and "heightening' the unspoken glances of these alpha females is the story within story of the climax. This is the scene that either makes or breaks the pilim - till that the movie is as vanilla as any other love istory. Now apart from the eyes of Srividhya (what a pair of dynamos they were!!) and KPAC Lalitha, the only other player present was Raaja with his BGM - all violin pieces set to play a symbony. But Raaja chooses a dicey tabla and light sitar piece and then when KPAC says "eduthukonga ava unga ponnu", Saarangi comes in from somewhere and overwhelms the viewer. That is a yorker that completes the part of the picture that writer had penned. There has been no better example I could give from any recent movie... Lets take this dicussion to the next level...
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From: SoftSword
on 15th December 2010 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
நாலு பேர் தூங்கும் இடத்தில ஒரு மலைப்பாம்பு "மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து தேரு போல" போகும்! சவுண்டு மியூட் பண்ணிட்டு கேட்டா, முதல் கணம், பாம்பு எதோ நாசம் பண்ணப்போகுதோன்னு தான் தோணும். ஆனா படத்தின் மைய இசையை இங்கும் (சற்று மாறுபட்டு) இசைததனால், பாம்பு தீங்கு செய்யப்போவதில்லை என்று மட்டும் அல்ல, வேறு எதற்கோ அதை காட்டியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் என்று புரியும். அந்த காட்சியில் ஸ்நிகிதா மிஸ்கின் பேசின வசனமும் செய்கையும் பாதிக்காதவர்களுக்கு கூட இந்த பாம்பு காட்சி, எதோ உரைக்கும். காரணம் இசை.
nanum dhan pathen...
aana anga oru malai paambu irundhadhu'nradhae ivinga ellaam sonna appaala dhaan enakku therinjadhu... nan innum romba valaranum pola...
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From: SoftSword
on 15th December 2010 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
I donno about this movie.. but Kadhalukku mariyaadhai climax is a case in point...
Setting: hero - heroini meeting after they decided to part ways. they are cool about it on the surface, but there is walk on the knife.. Their second level family members try to take it cool (kids, bulldog brothers, Mr.Raajasegar). First level family members, the alpha females of either families have a dilemma. The POV changes from that of hero and heroini to that of the alpha females.. Now there is very little that goes by dialogue that says anything as to what the characters are 'thinking' and 'feeling'. Tensun buildup is palpable - that tensun buildup and "heightening' the unspoken glances of these alpha females is the story within story of the climax. This is the scene that either makes or breaks the pilim - till that the movie is as vanilla as any other love istory. Now apart from the eyes of Srividhya (what a pair of dynamos they were!!) and KPAC Lalitha, the only other player present was Raaja with his BGM - all violin pieces set to play a symbony. But Raaja chooses a dicey tabla and light sitar piece and then when KPAC says "eduthukonga ava unga ponnu", Saarangi comes in from somewhere and overwhelms the viewer. That is a yorker that completes the part of the picture that writer had penned. There has been no better example I could give from any recent movie... Lets take this dicussion to the next level...
well written jai...
need to revisit that sequence.
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From: HonestRaj
on 15th December 2010 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
SoftSword

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
நாலு பேர் தூங்கும் இடத்தில ஒரு மலைப்பாம்பு "மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து தேரு போல" போகும்! சவுண்டு மியூட் பண்ணிட்டு கேட்டா, முதல் கணம், பாம்பு எதோ நாசம் பண்ணப்போகுதோன்னு தான் தோணும். ஆனா படத்தின் மைய இசையை இங்கும் (சற்று மாறுபட்டு) இசைததனால், பாம்பு தீங்கு செய்யப்போவதில்லை என்று மட்டும் அல்ல, வேறு எதற்கோ அதை காட்டியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் என்று புரியும். அந்த காட்சியில் ஸ்நிகிதா மிஸ்கின் பேசின வசனமும் செய்கையும் பாதிக்காதவர்களுக்கு கூட இந்த பாம்பு காட்சி, எதோ உரைக்கும். காரணம் இசை.
nanum dhan pathen...
aana anga oru malai paambu irundhadhu'nradhae ivinga ellaam sonna appaala dhaan enakku therinjadhu...
nan innum romba valaranum pola...

yerkanave 6 adi irukeenga.. idhu pOdhadha :P
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From: jaiganes
on 15th December 2010 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
SoftSword

Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
I donno about this movie.. but Kadhalukku mariyaadhai climax is a case in point...
Setting: hero - heroini meeting after they decided to part ways. they are cool about it on the surface, but there is walk on the knife.. Their second level family members try to take it cool (kids, bulldog brothers, Mr.Raajasegar). First level family members, the alpha females of either families have a dilemma. The POV changes from that of hero and heroini to that of the alpha females.. Now there is very little that goes by dialogue that says anything as to what the characters are 'thinking' and 'feeling'. Tensun buildup is palpable - that tensun buildup and "heightening' the unspoken glances of these alpha females is the story within story of the climax. This is the scene that either makes or breaks the pilim - till that the movie is as vanilla as any other love istory. Now apart from the eyes of Srividhya (what a pair of dynamos they were!!) and KPAC Lalitha, the only other player present was Raaja with his BGM - all violin pieces set to play a symbony. But Raaja chooses a dicey tabla and light sitar piece and then when KPAC says "eduthukonga ava unga ponnu", Saarangi comes in from somewhere and overwhelms the viewer. That is a yorker that completes the part of the picture that writer had penned. There has been no better example I could give from any recent movie... Lets take this dicussion to the next level...
well written jai...
need to revisit that sequence.
Found this clip on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdKUMYIp04
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From: SoftSword
on 15th December 2010 09:02 PM
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thanks jai.
honestu... aalu valandhaa podhadhu...
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From: kid-glove
on 15th December 2010 10:06 PM
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Jai,
That's a nice write-up. That again is an 'enhancement' only no? It doesn't actually create something that's not already there as a consequence of the narrative and the visual.
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From: Sanjeevi
on 15th December 2010 10:12 PM
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thread is moving well
thanks
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From: app_engine
on 15th December 2010 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sanjeevi
thread is moving well
thanks
ஏங்க, ஏதாவது சாரு பட்டாசு வச்சிருக்கீங்களா, கொளுத்திப்போட?
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From: Sanjeevi
on 15th December 2010 10:43 PM
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sari disturb panna vEnAnnuthan
thani thiri kozhuthiyaachu
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From: jaiganes
on 15th December 2010 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Jai,
That's a nice write-up. That again is an 'enhancement' only no? It doesn't actually create something that's not already there as a consequence of the narrative and the visual.
enhancement only if there was more "acting". when things reach a point if even a gesture by Srividya or KPAC would give the "moment" away, then the director/writer have a problem on their hands. "Need to tell - but not too much" Again by "tell" I mean, acting, posturing, looks/glances - these should be kept ambiguous for the scene to work in the "payoff". So who steps in and fills in the blanks? who can create the air of expectancy without ambiguity? Raaja feels it should be his music for it would keep the narrative subtle and the scene tighter. and that is what he does by stepping into the writer's shoes - albeit ever so lightly, creates just enough ambience for the "meesicals" and "common people" connect, while the "word" guys can appreciate the lack of loudness in the atmosphere..
And this is much more than "enhancing" or "heightening the tensun" If you know what i mean....
The moment the sound leaves the celluloid, it is in an area between the film on which we see the movie and the real space shared by audience and that is "something special" which requires a master like Raaja or Thomas newman or James Newton howard.
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From: thamiz
on 16th December 2010 12:11 AM
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nandhalala had been removed from c centers in a maximum of one week.
Is this a "high class" movie?
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From: jaiganes
on 16th December 2010 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
nandhalala had been removed from c centers in a maximum of one week.
Is this a "high class" movie?

depends on what your idea is of "high class".
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From: thamiz
on 16th December 2010 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
thamiz
nandhalala had been removed from c centers in a maximum of one week.
Is this a "high class" movie?

depends on what your idea is of "high class".
I see. What is your idea of high class anyway?
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From: thamiz
on 16th December 2010 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
charu
இன்னும் நிறைய எழுதிக் கொண்டே போகலாம். சுருக்கமாகச் சொன்னால், உலக சினிமா கிளாஸிக்குகளின் பட்டியலில் நந்தலாலாவும் நிச்சயம் இடம்பெறும்
இதுக்கு என்ன விலை னு தெரியலை!
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From: m_karthik
on 16th December 2010 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
நாலு பேர் தூங்கும் இடத்தில ஒரு மலைப்பாம்பு "மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து தேரு போல" போகும்! சவுண்டு மியூட் பண்ணிட்டு கேட்டா, முதல் கணம், பாம்பு எதோ நாசம் பண்ணப்போகுதோன்னு தான் தோணும். ஆனா படத்தின் மைய இசையை இங்கும் (சற்று மாறுபட்டு) இசைததனால், பாம்பு தீங்கு செய்யப்போவதில்லை என்று மட்டும் அல்ல, வேறு எதற்கோ அதை காட்டியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் என்று புரியும். அந்த காட்சியில் ஸ்நிகிதா மிஸ்கின் பேசின வசனமும் செய்கையும் பாதிக்காதவர்களுக்கு கூட இந்த பாம்பு காட்சி, எதோ உரைக்கும். காரணம் இசை.
IIRC, Idhey madhiri oru scene Mangal Pandey padathulayum varumae...
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From: P_R
on 16th December 2010 08:16 AM
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Thank you Jai.
By enhancement, 'we' (thilagaraiyin koottu sEthukaREn

) mean 'it is not make of break'.
Now on what basis do I say that ? Have I seen that scene with no (or lesser) meesic and did it work for me?
Well now it would, but that would be 'cheating' because the first time I saw it and it worked, it was in this set-up.
Then why do I claim to be able to tease out the parts? Because I don't recall the BGM making an impact on me when watching the film.
But then, perhaps I am not supposed to. It appeals to the subtler parts of rasanai, that which draws us to the work even by-passing conscious appreciation.
All said, I am fairly confident that even with a perfunctory BGM, the scene would have worked for me. While a good one (like the example you mentions) functions in elevating the experience to a new level.
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From: P_R
on 16th December 2010 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Originally Posted by
P_R

Originally Posted by
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
In the python scene, the BGM is creating the required effect. Without THAT bgm, ppl will understand the scene wrongly.
SKV, can you elaborate on this
indha maadhiri oru example vachi yArAvadhu esplain paNNa mAttAngaLA 'nu dhaan wait paNREn.
நாலு பேர் தூங்கும் இடத்தில ஒரு மலைப்பாம்பு "மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து தேரு போல" போகும்! சவுண்டு மியூட் பண்ணிட்டு கேட்டா, முதல் கணம், பாம்பு எதோ நாசம் பண்ணப்போகுதோன்னு தான் தோணும். ஆனா படத்தின் மைய இசையை இங்கும் (சற்று மாறுபட்டு) இசைததனால், பாம்பு தீங்கு செய்யப்போவதில்லை என்று மட்டும் அல்ல, வேறு எதற்கோ அதை காட்டியிருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் என்று புரியும். அந்த காட்சியில் ஸ்நிகிதா மிஸ்கின் பேசின வசனமும் செய்கையும் பாதிக்காதவர்களுக்கு கூட இந்த பாம்பு காட்சி, எதோ உரைக்கும். காரணம் இசை.
Thank You. That's a good one. Quite direct and simple. Yes I agree.
(ஆனா நீங்க சொன்னதுக்கப்புறம் தான் எனக்கு அங்க 'மெல்ல ஊர்ந்து ஊர்ந்து' இசை வந்தது ஞாபகம் வந்தது. அந்தக் காட்சியைப் பார்த்து பதட்டம் வரலைங்கற அளவுக்கு தான் எனக்கு ஞாபகம் இருக்கு)
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From: Vivasaayi
on 16th December 2010 08:22 AM
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Does these symbolisms and metaphor really make any sense at all in the movie....a movie should make an impact without the process of thinking and putting things togethor like a puzzle...Whatever the screen shows and sounds must have a direct impact on audience...yosikkamaye feel pannanum.
Isnt it similar to the director/Writer waving his outside the screen and showing his presence...
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From: prashanth12
on 16th December 2010 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Does these symbolisms and metaphor really make any sense at all in the movie....a movie should make an impact without the involvement of thinking...
The two are not mutually exclusive.
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From: Vivasaayi
on 16th December 2010 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
prashanth12

Originally Posted by
Vivasaayi
Does these symbolisms and metaphor really make any sense at all in the movie....a movie should make an impact without the involvement of thinking...
The two are not mutually exclusive.
I dont understand...a symbolism in a movie - which doesnot create any required emotional impact by its visuals and only creates an impact by understanding its significance with respect to the movie,requires some thinking - which I feel is unnecessary.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 16th December 2010 10:58 AM
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feeyar! ange mella oornthu oornthu varrathu python mattum thaan! to hear that BGM -
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/257...A%20Python.mp3
D'load full score here -
http://www.backgroundscore.com/2010/...ala-score.html
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 16th December 2010 11:11 AM
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BGM should not stand out or distort the scene but it should
help in understanding the scene
encance or sustain the feel/thought which director wanted to convey through a scene
it can be a single theme music played same or slightly different version each time, or various pieces ad various places, each helping enhancing the feel.
Nandalala BGM did that superb perfectly, but on the whole, i dont think it will go into the best books of Raja BGMS.
At the same time, ppl generally will go with thier emotional quotient more, than the logical/realistic quotient. I was in tears most of the time, so i couldnt come out of nandalala for 2 days. it was no doubt a woo much wonderful feel for me! but i know i may not get that same feel when i watch second time.
agin, at the same time, eventhough most ppl aren't experts, they will weigh BGM only based on the impact it made on them. thatsall. they wont define or elaborate it. In that way, most of the ppl are gud judges for BGM. they need not be experts
i guess i registeres what i thought, maybe or maynot be perfect!
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From: jaiganes
on 16th December 2010 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Thank you Jai.
By enhancement, 'we' (thilagaraiyin koottu sEthukaREn

) mean 'it is not make of break'.
Now on what basis do I say that ? Have I seen that scene with no (or lesser) meesic and did it work for me?
Well now it would, but that would be 'cheating' because the first time I saw it and it worked, it was in this set-up.
Then why do I claim to be able to tease out the parts? Because I don't recall the BGM making an impact on me when watching the film.
But then, perhaps I am not supposed to. It appeals to the subtler parts of rasanai, that which draws us to the work even by-passing conscious appreciation.
All said, I am fairly confident that even with a perfunctory BGM, the scene would have worked for me. While a good one (like the example you mentions) functions in elevating the experience to a new level.
From my perspective - sorta my evolution listening to BGM.
early days when it made no impact to me - visual had the immediate impact - works fine for simple straightforward films
As I grew up, the BGM was kinda necessary to give me an "enhanced feel" - hollywood type grand music as seen in movies like Ben Hur started making impact on me. without the music, the event on the screen marks its presence, but never seems to deliver the impact - mind you it is not just the grand music, but also the pause or lack of it before any grand event is shown on screen.
Later on when I was mature enough to see some sensitive movies, I found that characters most of the times never express outwardly straight away and I was linguistically challenged vis-a-vis english, hindi and other language movies and music became my breadcrumb trail that I could keep relating to context and then it made sense..
Finally works by great auteurs for it to be relatable at my level I need sonic clues - at least the first time and for some real good efforts in thamizh films, there is only first time, there was no hope of revisiting the movie again..
Case in point, Udhiri-p-pookkal, Baby Anju giving bath to master khaja sherif - the scene as it is has no emotional undercurrents, seen out of context it could be such a routine scene that can easily be missed, however Mahendran inserts it in the POV of the stepmom and Raaja plays the montage of Azhagiya Kanne (not the entire melody, but just the startin tribal flute and the santoor portion of it). What it provided is not a mere enhancement, but an entire set of dialogues, narrative pages that a novelist has the convenience of writing , all expressed as a simple reminder to the audience - that this is the "irony" - a boy without his mom to give him the bath and a younger sister stepping up and the chain of relationship continues in all its innocence without the benevolent presence of a motherly figure - all this bulk of words simply hinted by a rejoinder to a theme melody - I need not be a meesical, I just need a heart and a pair of ears to relate to that and as a story writer or a script writer what it saves me are pages of written words that would end up making the whole episode obvious and less poignant.
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From: SoftSword
on 16th December 2010 08:15 PM
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u sure what u understood is what mahendran/IR intended to give there in the form of music.. i mean they would hav had it for some reason, but maybe something else right? or how would they believe that every mature viewer would relate to the same meaning for that?
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From: P_R
on 16th December 2010 08:27 PM
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Thank You Jai. That's uber clear. Very well picked example again.
I hope I will be experience films that way some day.
Speaking of which I should perhaps watch Udhirippookal again. Flau-vaiyE azha vachuruchunnA, I have surely missed the point of that film.
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From: app_engine
on 16th December 2010 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Flau-vaiyE azha vachuruchunnA
அவருக்கு இளகின மனசுங்க

ஹப் நாரதர் வேலையெல்லாம் ஒரு கவசம்னு தோணுது
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From: venkkiram
on 16th December 2010 08:33 PM
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ஜெய், நீங்க சொல்ற உதிரிப்பூக்கள் காட்சியை மகேந்திரன் பின்னணி இசையில்லாமல் மௌனத்தால் நிரப்பியிருந்தால் உங்களால் அந்த அளவு உள்வாங்க முடியாமல் போயிருக்கும் எனக் கருதுகிறீர்களா?
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From: jaiganes
on 16th December 2010 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
SoftSword
u sure what u understood is what mahendran/IR intended to give there in the form of music.. i mean they would hav had it for some reason, but maybe something else right? or how would they believe that every mature viewer would relate to the same meaning for that?
Thats a difficult question. Sure I can only speak of what I saw and felt. From my conversations with others (in the hub and outside) - 9/10 people have felt the same way abt that scene and hence my conclusion.
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From: SoftSword
on 16th December 2010 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
jaiganes

Originally Posted by
SoftSword
u sure what u understood is what mahendran/IR intended to give there in the form of music.. i mean they would hav had it for some reason, but maybe something else right? or how would they believe that every mature viewer would relate to the same meaning for that?
Thats a difficult question. Sure I can only speak of what I saw and felt. From my conversations with others (in the hub and outside) - 9/10 people have felt the same way abt that scene and hence my conclusion.
if the majority feel the same way then its a huge success the D/MD..
what i thot was, people hav very unique perceptions, and they may understand a diff thing.
nanum andha scena padathula patthutu enakku enna thonuchunu solren

anyway thanks jai... indha madhiri vera irundha post pannunga...
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From: Plum
on 16th December 2010 08:55 PM
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Jai

(:expression-like-sivaji-in-TM-when-kamal-counters-the-vakeel-in-english: )
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From: P_R
on 16th December 2010 08:56 PM
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ஐயா...இவ்ளொ பேர் சொல்றீங்கன்னா ஏதாச்சு இருக்கும், எனக்குத் தான் புர்ல-ன்னு சொல்ட்டு தேமேன்னு உக்கார்ந்திருந்தவனை, வம்படியா கூப்டுட்டு இப்பொ மதன்பாப் ஆக்குறீங்களே.
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From: Plum
on 16th December 2010 09:10 PM
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Quoté:flau-vaiyE azha vechuruchunA endquote
nAn romba sensitive type-nga!
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From: SoftSword
on 16th December 2010 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
ஐயா...இவ்ளொ பேர் சொல்றீங்கன்னா ஏதாச்சு இருக்கும், எனக்குத் தான் புர்ல-ன்னு சொல்ட்டு தேமேன்னு உக்கார்ந்திருந்தவனை, வம்படியா கூப்டுட்டு இப்பொ மதன்பாப் ஆக்குறீங்களே.
madhan pop by himself is a md...
oh therinju dhaan soningala
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From: Plum
on 16th December 2010 09:15 PM
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Quoté:flau-vaiyE azha vechuruchunA endquote
nAn romba sensitive type-nga!
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From: Plum
on 16th December 2010 09:16 PM
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Quoté:flau-vaiyE azha vechuruchunA endquote
nAn romba sensitive type-nga!
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From: app_engine
on 16th December 2010 09:24 PM
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நான் சொன்னேன்ல அவருக்கு இளகின மனசுன்னு, பி_ஆர் சொன்னதுக்கே மூணு நாலு வாட்டி ரிப்ளை பண்றாரு பாருங்க
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From: app_engine
on 16th December 2010 09:36 PM
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About UP BGM - IMO, at that point of time, IR was still in his "formative years" in this department, while already crossing multiple PhD levels in the songs dept.
'azhagiya kaNNE' melted many, evoking strong emotions as a standalone song, with special chosen strings portions. If some of those portions are played in a completely different movie having some child-suffering (in an entirely different setting), the effect would have still been the same IMO.
I happened to watch UP (for the first time) very recently and felt that the movie is extraordinary. And it would have been that way even with no BGM.
IR definitely "enhanced" the experience by the phenomenal "azhagiya kaNNE" (and using portions / variations of that song as BGM).
His total mastery of BGM, IMO, happened in 80's
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From: app_engine
on 16th December 2010 09:42 PM
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Want to quickly add that IR's 70's BGM efforts were still superior to other composers / predecessors. (rAjA pArvai, for e.g. reached standards which no Indian composer had ever been to, prior).
Just that it had some 'AhA' moments (even in the celebrated sigappu rOjAkkAL, I didn't enjoy the BGM for flash back, for e.g.) Every now and then, he'll throw some not-so-palatable stuff as BGM, which lasted till early 80's. (e.g. Kamal's run to do adi-thadi with Natraj in moondRam piRai).
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From: P_R
on 16th December 2010 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
நான் சொன்னேன்ல அவருக்கு இளகின மனசுன்னு, பி_ஆர் சொன்னதுக்கே மூணு நாலு வாட்டி ரிப்ளை பண்றாரு பாருங்க

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From: jaiganes
on 16th December 2010 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
About UP BGM - IMO, at that point of time, IR was still in his "formative years" in this department, while already crossing multiple PhD levels in the songs dept.
'azhagiya kaNNE' melted many, evoking strong emotions as a standalone song, with special chosen strings portions. If some of those portions are played in a completely different movie having some child-suffering (in an entirely different setting), the effect would have still been the same IMO.
I happened to watch UP (for the first time) very recently and felt that the movie is extraordinary. And it would have been that way even with no BGM.
IR definitely "enhanced" the experience by the phenomenal "azhagiya kaNNE" (and using portions / variations of that song as BGM).
His total mastery of BGM, IMO, happened in 80's

so we are contradicting each other then!!!
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From: Plum
on 17th December 2010 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
நான் சொன்னேன்ல அவருக்கு இளகின மனசுன்னு, பி_ஆர் சொன்னதுக்கே மூணு நாலு வாட்டி ரிப்ளை பண்றாரு பாருங்க


- EdhAchiyA apdi nadandhu pOchu!
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From: Plum
on 17th December 2010 09:18 AM
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app,
Udhiri PookkaL is top of the shelf as far as BGM goes. I can agree with what you say for some early movies and probably even muLLum malarum. Uhdiri pookkaL is as good as or better than the later efforts.
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From: app_engine
on 17th December 2010 05:25 PM
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Plum,
UP BGM is top class (with a small exception - 'kalyANam pAru' some kind of a distortion), however, film would have been alive with a KVM-MSV era doingg-doingg-veeNai also
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From: umaramesh
on 17th December 2010 08:32 PM
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UP BGM is top class (with a small exception - 'kalyANam pAru' some kind of a distortion), however, film would have been alive with a KVM-MSV era doingg-doingg-veeNai also Smile
Dear App
KVM-MSV not only did DOINGG-DOINGG-VEENAI .for your info.pl read below statement. These have been done in 1964.
List is from the film PUDHIYA PARAVAI. Immediately after the song "Partha Gnyabagam Illaiyo", the Hotel Supervisor introduces Sowcar Janaki to Sivaji. The background score for this scene by Mellisai Mannargal is a classic example. It starts slowly with a humming (by Henry Daniel), with Jazz rythm in the background while the chat goes on, during the pause, the trumpet intrudes, again guitar in the background, and during the pause, guitar is playing the tune the trumpet was played, then the song "I don't know love" by Henry Daniel, then again when they get ready to leave, the jazz instruments all are played.
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From: app_engine
on 17th December 2010 08:41 PM
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umaramesh,
Sorry for not including a j/k, it was indeed a very non-serious comment, for the azhuvAchchi scenes.
I love pudhiya paRavai BGM also
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From: Nerd
on 20th January 2011 08:12 PM
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Is there a thread for Yuddham Sei? Feb 4 release. Who is the music director? No songs?
http://dailythanthi.com/thanthiepape...SG425647-M.jpg
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From: Siv.S
on 23rd January 2011 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
K is the music director

, just saw the trailer.. almost like Anjathey -2, songs r there Nerd including the same yellow saree kuthu song.
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From: SoftSword
on 24th January 2011 05:15 PM
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why no thread for this movie?
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From: ajaybaskar
on 24th January 2011 05:17 PM
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From: app_engine
on 26th January 2011 09:02 PM
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ட்ராட்ஸ்கி மருதுவின் கருத்துகள் - குறிப்பாக பி_ஆர் அவர்களின் கவனத்துக்கு
இங்குதான் திரைப்படத்தை இலக்கியத்தின் தொடர்ச்சி என்றோ, நகல் என்றோ நினைக்கிறார்கள். நல்ல படமா இல்லையா என்பதை கதையை வைத்து மட்டுமே தீர்மானிக்கிறார்கள். உண்மை என்னவென்றால், திரைப்படம் என்பது நகரும் ஓவியமும் கூட(moving painting). நீங்களும் நானும் திரையரங்கில் உட்கார்ந்து பார்ப்பதற்கு ஒரு கதை வேண்டியிருக்கிறது. அதற்காகத்தான் கதையே தவிர, அதுவே திரைப்படம் அல்ல. வார்த்தைகளால் புரிய வைப்பது, காட்சிகள் மூலமாக உணர்வை உண்டு பண்ணுவது, இசைக் கோர்வையால் ஓர் அனுபவத்தை ஏற்படுத்துவது என்று திரைப்படம் தனக்கு சாத்தியமான அனைத்துக் கலைகளையும் உள்வாங்கி இயங்குகிறது. ஆனால் தமிழ் சினிமா மட்டும்தான் வாயால் சொல்லப்படுகிறது. வார்த்தைகள், வார்த்தைகள், வார்த்தைகள் மட்டுமே தமிழ் சினிமாவை எப்போதும் ஆக்ரமித்திருக்கிறது.
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From: Nerd
on 28th January 2011 06:29 AM
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Nandhalala - Don't know how to categorize it. Certainly I have not seen anything like this in TFI. Some episodes worked wonderfully well. Like the ones that used the songs. Onnukkonnu, thaalaattu, snatches of mella oornthu. Some were so meh like the tractor, fatsos+python, honeymoon kapils. Loved the ending to both the mothers. Mysskin was very sincere and earnest in making this but some scenes are executed poorly since I could not feel the negizhchi or the manamaattram or the 'shock'. The film would have been fantastic if all those *moments* had worked for me.
Mysskin did very well in a few scenes. Snikdha had no clue and the boy was good. One of the very few films (among the 100s I have seen) in which I thought Raja overdid the BGM. It was fantastic for many scenes but totally out of place for a few.
Favorite scenes:
1. Lorry *pom pom*, onnukkonnu the only scene in which the negizhchi worked for me.
2. Scenes after nondi was admitted to in the hospital => lanterns => lorry => getting caught
3. Mysskin's escape and dress change, well shot.
4. Rohini's first scene with thaalaattu kEtka naanum
5. Agi saying poda mental
6. Agi's mom explaining her plight to Mysskin and the last scene in which Agi throws the picture.
I am extremely curious on what our hubbers and the web said about the film in the reviews. Will go back and read them tomorrow
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From: jinju
on 28th January 2011 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Nandhalala - Don't know how to categorize it. Certainly I have not seen anything like this in TFI. Some episodes worked wonderfully well. Like the ones that used the songs. Onnukkonnu, thaalaattu, snatches of mella oornthu. Some were so meh like the tractor, fatsos+python, honeymoon kapils. Loved the ending to both the mothers. Mysskin was very sincere and earnest in making this but some scenes are executed poorly since I could not feel the negizhchi or the manamaattram or the 'shock'. The film would have been fantastic if all those *moments* had worked for me.
Mysskin did very well in a few scenes. Snikdha had no clue and the boy was good. One of the very few films (among the 100s I have seen) in which I thought Raja overdid the BGM. It was fantastic for many scenes but totally out of place for a few.
Favorite scenes:
1. Lorry *pom pom*, onnukkonnu the only scene in which the negizhchi worked for me.
2. Scenes after nondi was admitted to in the hospital => lanterns => lorry => getting caught
3. Mysskin's escape and dress change, well shot.
4. Rohini's first scene with thaalaattu kEtka naanum
5. Agi saying poda mental
6. Agi's mom explaining her plight to Mysskin and the last scene in which Agi throws the picture.
I am extremely curious on what our hubbers and the web said about the film in the reviews. Will go back and read them tomorrow

except a few things, almost word to word my thoughts after watching the film! i loved the BGM truly, madly, deeply...actually the restraint/silence in many scenes created a peculiar mood! i liked the preg python scene too. i thought that was fine with the BGM that accompanied the scene. but some scenes, as u mentioned didn't register (not sure if it's director's fault or mine!)
matthabadi, most of ur favorite scenes match with mine. actually, hadn't expressed anything about the film anywhere coz basically confused as to what to say or what to write about it, as u mentioned it's something unseen in TFI.
for me too, that girl and the tractor was the one sore point that comes early in the film. i don't think the director was clear enuff in what he wanted to convey in that scene, it felt sort of incomplete. and that girl's acting was funny too (the way she comes in running n touches myskin).
the 'podaa mental' scene, and the closing of that scene with the kid saying sorry and getting myskin's shoes in the right order finally...superb!!!
Snigdha looked clueless indeed! and i didn't understand why the director chose to make her talk about her plight (that too in graphic detail) in the presence of the kid. am not expecting sophistication from someone who's leading that sort of a life, but somehow i cudn't accept the scene with the kid being part of it.
also, those guys who come in the red rick n try to take away snigdha...edhukku, is it expressed in any dialogue, did i miss it? does she mention it in the scene i wrote about, above? Nasser was a delight even in that small scene. His smile still stays with me.
very well written points. thanks Nerd for writing about the movie. it prompted me to release my thoughts too!
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From: Nerd
on 28th January 2011 11:34 PM
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Hey thanks jinju. Glad we share many thoughts about this film
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
on 29th January 2011 01:02 AM
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Nerd,
What abt the python scene?!
And this is one good review i feel one shud not miss -
http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_29.html
http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2010/12/blog-post.html
http://surveysan.blogspot.com/2010/12/blog-post_05.html
venkiram brought up lot of hidden, visual expressions in the film

did u get all of them..
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From: Nerd
on 29th January 2011 01:50 AM
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No sakala, I have not read all the previous pages except for casual glances before watching the film.
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From: app_engine
on 27th February 2011 04:44 AM
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உண்மையிலேயே வித்தியாசமான படம்!
ரொம்பப்பிடித்திருந்தது!
மிஷ்கின்,
ராஜா,
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From: app_engine
on 27th February 2011 05:05 AM
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Watched this movie with my sr / b-i-l and they both loved the movie as well. Ofcourse, the instant opinion of them was ' hey, this must be a remake of some English movie'
Did it at least recover the investment?
If not, this must be one among the few rare cases of TF that I liked but failed to get required public support
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From: app_engine
on 27th February 2011 05:06 AM
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About BGM, I didn't feel any out-of-place or loud moment at all

(BTW, I watched at home on DVD and so no unnecessary sound manipulations by theaterwala - a simple DVD player with a regular Hitachi LCD TV...I wonder what people talked about this "loud" "overpowering" moments etc)
Very apt & soothing, like a breeze!
Yes, definitely only Raja possible
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From: app_engine
on 27th February 2011 05:10 AM
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Not a single minute was FF'ed
One more thing, I didn't have do any "downing the volume" with this Sruthilayam DVD. Often with TF, the sound level will suddenly go up when songs / instrumental without speech comes and one has to scramble for the remote.
This watch is perhaps the most comfortable DVD experience of a TF in recent times!
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From: jaiganes
on 27th February 2011 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
About BGM, I didn't feel any out-of-place or loud moment at all

(BTW, I watched at home on DVD and so no unnecessary sound manipulations by theaterwala - a simple DVD player with a regular Hitachi LCD TV...I wonder what people talked about this "loud" "overpowering" moments etc)
Very apt & soothing, like a breeze!
Yes, definitely only Raja possible

One thing to notice is that , when the early portions of character intros were around, the BGM was very subtle with only Agi theme playing in and out off and on. The moment the journey begins, except for the time dialogues were spoken, the BGM is the only thing that is going on.. Some sequences felt like some one walked into an art museum full of striking pictures and thought it would be good to set music to every picture as one walked on from one painting to the other... This can be disconcerting some times... Trust me, I havent still gotten around to watching the movie completely yet.. Family feels it is better to do other things at this moment... Will watch it today most probably and sum up totally..
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From: app_engine
on 28th February 2011 07:42 PM
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All of us were LOL'ing at the "expressionless" face of the cop. Hilarious to the core!
யாருப்பா அவரு?
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From: app_engine
on 28th February 2011 07:44 PM
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I wonder how it would have fared if taken in Malayalam
The movie is "Malayalam-Fazilish" in some aspects (i.e. when Fazil was at his peak)...
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From: kid-glove
on 28th February 2011 07:53 PM
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Fazilish? Fazil's framing & composition lacks the metaphorical quality(at least in Nandhalala) of Mysskin.