Actors speaking political dialogues to cheat their fans

Topic started by nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:07:31 2006.

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• From: ajithfederer on Wed Jan 11 0:09:58 2006.

  Totally agreed...
  
  should mind thier own businesses
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 0:10:23 2006.

  
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:11:00 2006.

  they are cheating common man!
  
  

• From: Justice on Wed Jan 11 0:12:08 2006.

  nilavu,
  
  you're doing an amazing job in creating threads. all threads you created were useful but unfortunately, they were locked later
  
  hope at-least this one stays as long as it can
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Wed Jan 11 0:13:56 2006.

  well said!
  
  but the reality is sad...when will it end?
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:14:50 2006.

  hope so!
  
  sinthiya...
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jan 11 0:15:54 2006.

  Sinthiya wrote:

  well said! but the reality is sad...when will it end?

  
  day dreams....
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:19:12 2006.

  my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams..
  
  they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith
  
  or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth...
  
  rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there!
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Wed Jan 11 0:19:25 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  hope so! sinthiya...

  
  ...
  
  we all watch it still and fall for the dialogues (maybe)...my dad watches these dialogues and always comments as if it's best line in the movie...
  
  political dialogues by actors will not end...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Jan 11 0:21:53 2006.

  Nilavu & vasanth,
  
  I think we will have some job in Moderators thread under misc section if this one get locked
  
  
  
  

• From: Justice on Wed Jan 11 0:21:55 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams.. they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth... rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there!

  
  
  very well said
  I was suprised to know that Ajith and Kamal fans donate blood on their birthdays
  some actors use the fansclub as their first step towards politics
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jan 11 0:22:55 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams.. they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth... rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there!

  
  appuram ivangalukum matthavangalakum enna vithiyaasam ?
  These 2 clubs only indulge in the social service activities.....
  No one other than kamal and ajith does that...
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Wed Jan 11 0:24:21 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth...

  
  ...i don't think so...i just don't agree with actors trying to be politicians...
  
  election time in Canada
  
  

• From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 0:25:13 2006.

  Rajnikant was the diouloge writer in Baba, heres a bit..
  
  
  Baba: Amma, yaara ma CM-a Podalam..
  KMani: Enakku therinchu oruthan irukkan
  Baba: Yaru?
  KMani: Neethan
  Baba: Yetho oru mudivile irukke?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Jan 11 0:27:01 2006.

  Nilavu,
  
  Fan clubs can be there for actor and they can also do whatever they like.
  
  at the same time, they should do something to the soceity also.
  
  Infact, it s only the fan club in bangalore that made me feel comfortable.
  
  I am staying alone. I am happy with the fact that I have some likeminded people with whom I can join and celebrate each weekend.
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:32:24 2006.

  selva..u dont know what happens in rasigar mandrams in southern tamilnadu!
  
  there is a diff between bangalore and madurai!
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:33:19 2006.

  rajni releases one film for three years!
  
  but that fellows waste their time without even watching a movie for years playing carom board or something!
  
  when film releases those poor people make 100's of cut-outs with their own money........and what else they can do with their own money
  
  its ok with rich people...but these guys are not rich
  .
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:52:22 2006.

  baba climax!
  
  total tamilnadu is begging for baba to come back and rule them!
  
  we know who is the script writer!
  
  
  
  

• From: Avenger on Wed Jan 11 0:53:31 2006.

  Vijayya yen vittutinga
  
  

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams.. they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth... rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there!

  
  

• From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 0:54:30 2006.

  Rajni is king of publicity..
  He asked Anniyan, Sachein to be postponed..
  He did the same thing some years ago..
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:55:05 2006.

  did vijay change it to narpani mandram!
  
  thank god!..vijay dint speak political dialogues till now
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:55:45 2006.

  avenger..dont bring vijay here!
  
  dont spam this thread!
  
  

• From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 0:56:30 2006.

  He did..
  In Bagavathy, th CM asks him to contest in MLA election..
  Most recently in Shivakasi
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 0:57:52 2006.

  
  
  

• From: Sundar12345 on Wed Jan 11 1:01:08 2006.

  Rajni has been doing it right from the movie 'Annamalai'
  He does it in every movie. He wants people to call him to politics.
  He does play politics well in cinema as well.
  
  He asked to postpone other movies to make chandramukhi a hit.
  but i guess ANNIYAN was a mega hit.
  Better than CM at least.
  
  

• From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 1:04:08 2006.

  No...
  Chandramukhi was a bigger hit..
  But it wouldnt been if Anniyan released toghther..
  I guess he might ask others to postpone movies for his Shivaji..
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 9:35:14 2006.

  Did not CM crush MX? Even kamal movie did not run?! We talk about ANNIYAN SWALLOWING CHANDRAMUKHI.
  
  I find this HILARIOUS.
  
  Reg this thread, I sadly have to agree.
  
  Sadly, ppl leave out ramarajan, vijayakanth etc, and again ITS RAJNI alone being bashed. WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY?
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jan 11 9:38:12 2006.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Did not CM crush MX? Even kamal movie did not run?! We talk about ANNIYAN SWALLOWING CHANDRAMUKHI. I find this HILARIOUS. Reg this thread, I sadly have to agree. Sadly, ppl leave out ramarajan, vijayakanth etc, and again ITS RAJNI alone being bashed. WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY?

  
  Ramarajan has Joined ADMK
  and vijayakanth has a started a new party.....
  but rajini ?
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 9:59:10 2006.

  in CM he did not do it.
  
  WHEN HE HAD THAT IDEA, may be he used film as media to get feedback for his entry.
  
  now that PROBABLY he is rethinking the whole idea,
  
  HE STOPPED TALKIN SUCH DIALOGUES.
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jan 11 10:05:47 2006.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  in CM he did not do it. WHEN HE HAD THAT IDEA, may be he used film as media to get feedback for his entry. now that PROBABLY he is rethinking the whole idea, HE STOPPED TALKIN SUCH DIALOGUES.

  
  yes ..... and he will not repeat it again
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 10:09:10 2006.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  in CM he did not do it. WHEN HE HAD THAT IDEA, may be he used film as media to get feedback for his entry. now that PROBABLY he is rethinking the whole idea, HE STOPPED TALKIN SUCH DIALOGUES.

  
  
  if a politician get bribe through out his career and realize his deed atlast....what will u say?
  
  "oh....i will vote for him...he has realised".....?
  
  if he have courage he must have come...not just shouting and kindle his fans to make his movierun
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 11 10:14:59 2006.

  Another thread for fight.
  
  
  
  
  

• From: great on Wed Jan 11 10:15:37 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams.. they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth... rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there!

  
  
  I agree that they can change the fan club to narpani mandram....
  
  if they have interest to join politics,they should not use fan club and cheat the common people ....for their own gains
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 10:29:36 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  Shakthiprabha wrote: in CM he did not do it. WHEN HE HAD THAT IDEA, may be he used film as media to get feedback for his entry. now that PROBABLY he is rethinking the whole idea, HE STOPPED TALKIN SUCH DIALOGUES. if a politician get bribe through out his career and realize his deed atlast....what will u say? "oh....i will vote for him...he has realised".....? if he have courage he must have come...not just shouting and kindle his fans to make his movierun

  
  
  What he did to invoke favour for his political career is NOT VERY PLEASANT. I agree.
  
  but dont say THATS WHY HIS MOVIE RAN. HAVE NOT U HEARD OF DOZENS OF HIS HIT MOVIE BEFORE HIS POLITICAL IDEAS????????????
  
  THATS CRAPPPPPPPP WITH CAPITAL C.
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 10:35:33 2006.

  that dint make his film run!
  
  but that made his fans crazy and expect his stand in next movie!
  
  its similar to an advertisement
  
  

• From: Thiru on Wed Jan 11 10:40:17 2006.

  If this is a thread that is aimed at bashing one actor alone, I will have to lock it...
  
  

• From: Cod on Wed Jan 11 11:23:40 2006.

  I don't think there is anything wrong in Kollywood meddling with politics. It has done more good than harm to TN throughout the 20th century.
  
  In Padayappa, there was a scene like this:
  Rajini: Sari, appo party aarambichudalama?
  All Allakais chorus: Anna... superrrrrna, naan than porulaalar, ivar than maavatta seyalaalar, avaru...
  Rajini: yow, naan birthday partya aarambichudalamanu ketten!
  
  
  
  In the Nineties, political punch dialogues like these were interesting and triggered wild expectations. But, he hesitated in 2001 Assembly elections thus losing the momentum from 1996.
  
  Vijaykanth and Karthik's plunge into politics may not make any significant impact. They may become MLAs, nothing more. So they will play caste and sectarian cards for survival. They lack universal appeal.
  
  

• From: ssanjinika on Wed Jan 11 11:44:30 2006.

  Cod wrote:

  I don't think there is anything wrong in Kollywood meddling with politics. It has done more good than harm to TN throughout the 20th century.

  
  
  Its attitudes like this which encourages actors like SS chandran,RadhaRavi,Ramarajan,Sarat Kumar,Nepolean etc etc to enter into politics.
  
  

• From: great on Wed Jan 11 11:47:10 2006.

  ssanjinika wrote:

  Cod wrote: I don't think there is anything wrong in Kollywood meddling with politics. It has done more good than harm to TN throughout the 20th century. Its attitudes like this which encourages actors like SS chandran,RadhaRavi,Ramarajan,Sarat Kumar,Nepolean etc etc to enter into politics.

  
  
  well said these people doesnt know anything ...still they simply give statements
  
  

• From: Cod on Wed Jan 11 11:58:32 2006.

  I was also surprised to see that. Anyway Thala fanskku samooga sevaina rombo pidikkum.
  
  
  
  

  justice wrote:

  nilavupriyan wrote: my question is why do they maqintain rasigar mandrams.. they can better change it to narpani mandrams like kamal and ajith or else make their mandram a political mandram like vijayakanth... rasikaradhukku edhukku mandram?.....its just wastin the time of the younsters who play carom board every evening there! very well said I was suprised to know that Ajith and Kamal fans donate blood on their birthdays some actors use the fansclub as their first step towards politics

  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:11:44 2006.

  ss chandran ,radha ravi were in politics from the beginning!
  
  they are not new to politics....
  
  

• From: great on Wed Jan 11 12:15:24 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  ss chandran ,radha ravi were in politics from the beginning! they are not new to politics....

  
  
  they were not born politician !!!!!!!!!!!
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:17:30 2006.

  but they were in politics from the beginning like many others!
  
  not like karthik
  
  

• From: great on Wed Jan 11 12:20:20 2006.

  they acted in many movies,before entering politics.....
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:21:21 2006.

  yeah!
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 20:36:42 2006.

  Some Kamal Fans have stooped down to the level of some Ajith and VJ fans by bashing Rajini every chance they get!!
  
  

  Nilavu wrote:

  infact many rajni fans joined the fan club and worked greatly thinking that they would become politically active oneday!

  
  
  If some MORON actually has nothing else to do other than WORKING GREATLY hoping they were going to becoming someone great in politics along with their favorite star....THEN THOSE IDIOTS DESEARVED IT!
  
  

  Quote:

  ..how dare they think abt tamilnadu people this way!

  
  
  Actors are getting elected are they not?!?! Blame the moronic voters if u don't like cine personalities coming to politics, not the stars!
  
  I agree that it's an idiotic decision to vote for actors, but why is it that only Rajini (Who hasn't even ENTERED politics) was bashed here for 2 pages but other actors like Sarathkumar were ignored!
  
  

  Quote:

  if he have courage he must have come...not just shouting and kindle his fans to make his movierun

  
  
  It's not the matter of courage!! If he WANTED to, he would have right after Padaiappa! If he HAD come after Padaiappa he would have gone places! And what the hell is his bullsh*t about his movies running because of political dialouges?? Have u not seen the number of his hits before he started them??
  
  

  nilavu wrote:

  its similar to an advertisement

  
  
  There a HUGE, HUMUNGOUS, difference between that and what u said earlier!
  
  

  SP AKKA wrote:

  WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY?

  
  
  Because some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like one actor, the MUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE HEAVENS hate the other!
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 21:01:14 2006.

  Surya wrote:

  Some Kamal Fans have stooped down to the level of some Ajith and VJ fans by bashing Rajini every chance they get!!

  
  I know u were referring to Nilavu & me.... Why is this forum here? To discuss things from different perspectives...Do u just want to keep singing praises for actors?.....I didn't find anything wrong with the very first post of Nilavu...Didn't Rajni exploit his fans work & time?? In 2004 elections, weren't they made to work against PMK?? .........
  But the other heroes mentioned here actually had come to politics sooner or later ...like MGR, KB, Ramarajan, Sarath, Vijaykanth........
  
  

  Surya wrote:

  SP AKKA wrote: WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY? Because some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like one actor, the MUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE HEAVENS hate the other!

  
  Shall I say that some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like an actor, they should support him in whatever he does, doesn't matter good deed or bad deed ...
  
  

• From: Justice on Wed Jan 11 21:06:57 2006.

  Surya wrote:

  Some Kamal Fans have stooped down to the level of some Ajith and VJ fans by bashing Rajini every chance they get!!

  
  
  don't you think now Ajithfans are better
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 21:12:18 2006.

  Vasanth,
  

  Quote:

  Why is this forum here? To discuss things from different perspectives...

  
  
  Different Perspectives yes! But when was the last time u guys said ANYTHING good about Rajini?
  
  

  Quote:

  Didn't Rajni exploit his fans work & time??

  
  
  Like I said, if some moron is willing to waste his time and money on this, then he desearvs it. Rajini didn't force people to do things for him! It's a free country, ppl are free to make decisions!
  
  

  Quote:

  Shall I say that some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like an actor, they should support him in whatever he does, doesn't matter good deed or bad deed.

  
  
  I know ur reffering to me, and other rajini fans. What BAD Deed? I'm still yet to read a straight forward post about a bad deed! Political dialouges in a movie is a BAD DEED?
  
  If I'm convinced that what Rajini is doing is straight up wrong..I wouldn't think twice before expressing my discontent. Name a Bad Deed that he has done!
  
  Things that haven't been mentioned here which I'm not a fan of regarding rajini:
  His School.
  
  Other than that....I don't see anything.
  
  I still don't see why some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like one actor, the MUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE HEAVENS hate the other!
  
  Regards.
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 21:13:51 2006.

  Justice machi,
  I only said SOME. Also, now comparing to SOME VJ fans....no I take that back, some hubbers with a VJ avatar, ajith fans are better!
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 21:31:21 2006.

  Surya,
  Sorry I don't have time now to go on abt that 2004 election things & moreover my knowledge is quite limited there.........Yeah those fans r real idiots, to have worked for Rajni on a useless matter, but couldn't have Rajni saved them from that?....
  Thats where my point abt "not good" deed comes !...And for another instance, first of all , there is ABS nothing wrong in smoking in films or drinking or blah blah.... But once it was found that really influences youngsters into smoking, didn't Kamal stop it in his films? Didn't SRK stop it too ?? ...They did it bcos, they were concerned for the life of youngsters & stopped it (It might make ABS no diff for them on their films, whether they smoke or not) ...............Now they r GOOD deeds!!......Same goes for fan clubs n etc,..
  Yet, I didn't say a BAD deed of rajni yet.....
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 21:50:56 2006.

  Quote:

  but couldn't have Rajni saved them from that?

  
  
  He didn't say DO THIS, he didn't say DON'T DO THIS. That doesn't make it a bad deed. He didn't start it, he didn't finish it. That not good or bad.
  
  Reg Smoking:
  He didn't smoke in arunachalam. Then after 6 years or something, he did in Padaiappa for only a couple sequences. The Fight, and a few mins in the climax, after 3 years after that, in BABA he smoked again, but that was the charecter. Baba is a charecter who had all sorts of bad habits, and THEN would reform. If u notice, after he learns that the Mantras are heavenly, he stops smoking in the film. And in Chandramukhi there was a single frame with Rajini and a Cigg.
  
  Drinking:
  I am a big fan of Kamal, but to point out, there were many scenes in Virumaandi where Kamal drinks. There are scenes in Alavanthaan where Kamal uses drugs, and has prem sex and so on. I'M NOT SAYING IT's WRONG! IT's THE CHARECTER, JUST LIKE RAJINI IN BABA.
  
  Also, Drinking and SMOKING which u have mentioned here, have nothing to do with Politics.
  
  

  Quote:

  Yet, I didn't say a BAD deed of rajni yet...

  
  
  Correct!
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 22:31:02 2006.

  Sorry surya, u either didn't get my post or didn't want to understand it , so no point in arguing with u ! If u want me to elaborate , why I say like this, I'll do it .
  No hard feelings
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 22:40:03 2006.

  I think my post argues on logical grounds. I don't see what u could deny, or pass off as not true in my post.
  
  

  Quote:

  u either didn't get my post or didn't want to understand it , so no point in arguing with u ! No hard feelings

  
  
  Right back at cha!
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 22:44:06 2006.

  Surya, I edited my earlier post , see ......
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Jan 11 22:45:22 2006.

  Okay. Please do!
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 23:02:41 2006.

  Surya wrote:

  Quote: but couldn't have Rajni saved them from that? He didn't say DO THIS, he didn't say DON'T DO THIS. That doesn't make it a bad deed. He didn't start it, he didn't finish it. That not good or bad.

  
  I think u r pretending as not knowing those incidents .... Rajni all of a sudden announced his new film Jaggubhai amidst that election hullabaloo , later to be dropped, citing even a proper story wasn't finalised, as a reason ...(Rajni waited 2 years )..........Does that ring a bell ?...........U somehow covered my earlier question "Coudn't have Rajni stopped that, if he didn't really want to *misuse* his fans' time & work? ".....
  
  Ok & abt smoking, I myself said it very clearly theres abs nothing wrong in smoking ......but many actors STOPPED it for the younsters' sake , since it was found that young ppl were being influenced by their "idols smoking on screen" !........ Rajni didn't do anything GOOD in that aspect, whereas he could have brought a greater impact by stopping & doing a GOOD deed............... Rajni didn't do it in CM for some other reasons (I bet u don't want me to say ).........I say again, nothing wrong if Rajni smokes in Shivaji ..............
  
  Drinking has always been depicted as an evil thing ...Do u think youngsters would get influenced by drinking, drugs, prem sex of their idols on screen? NEITHER was it proven in studies or surveys that cinema heros influence youngsters in those evil acts, BUT for smoking it was proven in surveys !!.....I myself have seen a lot of ppl like that........
  
  And I brought smoking here coz, u asked me "what BAD deed Rajni did ever do"?? ..so , I used smoking & fanclubs, etc to say that he had SOME CHANCES to DO GREAT deeds, but he didn't ...
  .Yet, I'm yet to say a Bad deed abt Rajni
  
  

• From: Shivaji on Wed Jan 11 23:27:55 2006.

  actors are not cheating by speaking political dialogues.rajini doesnt need political dialogues or need to cheat anybody.fans love him no matter what.so kamal fans or anybody else,stop this nonsense thread.ask kamal to give a hit first.surya,lovely avaatar
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 23:30:38 2006.

  Nilavu, edit ur topic post & please include this
  "Idiots are not welcome here. Only matured hubbers and absolutely no bullshit. "
  
  so that v don't get to see rubbish like the above post....
  
  

• From: Shivaji on Wed Jan 11 23:33:41 2006.

  vasanth_luv wrote:

  Nilavu, edit ur topic post & please include this "Idiots are not welcome here. Only matured hubbers and absolutely no bullshit. " so that v don't get to see rubbish like the above post....

  
  
  
  
  right,kamal fans are the smartest ones in the world.ninappu thaanda unga polappa kedukuthu.10 naal kooda padam odrathu illa.paechulaya kaalatha otungada
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 23:37:01 2006.

  Shivaji wrote:

  right,kamal fans are the smartest ones in the world.

  
  thanks for saying like that
  BTW I'm not a BO geek to give u datas n stuff .....But I am very sure, u would have common sense to know abt hits n things...........
  
  

• From: Shivaji on Wed Jan 11 23:39:21 2006.

  you sound like a man obsessed with pride just like the man in your avatar.yes i do have common sense,but not a smart-ass to point fingers at others
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 23:43:32 2006.

  Shivaji,
  My humble apologies, If i had hurt ur feelings by any mean
  
  

• From: Shivaji on Wed Jan 11 23:45:22 2006.

  i'm sorry it turned out so messy.i just cannot see anybody speak ill of rajini.please dont worry.my apologies too bro
  
  

• From: kb on Wed Jan 11 23:46:30 2006.

  aduchaalum pudhuchaalum annan thambi neeyum naanum da
  
  

• From: Shivaji on Wed Jan 11 23:48:56 2006.

  kb wrote:

  aduchaalum pudhuchaalum annan thambi neeyum naanum da

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 23:49:53 2006.

  Shivaji wrote:

  kb wrote: aduchaalum pudhuchaalum annan thambi neeyum naanum da

  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jan 11 23:57:51 2006.

  Just one point:
  
  RK dint ask anyone to work against PMK in the '04 elections.. He was like I will vote for BJP and I m not insisting my fans to do the same in a public interview..
  
  anyways thats his personal life and this forum, I believe is not for discussing about that.. Also I can make a thread only to bash KH and I m sure i ll get a good response.. So, Thiru its high time this thread is locked which invariably has changed into RK-bashing..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jan 12 0:00:18 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  selva..u dont know what happens in rasigar mandrams in southern tamilnadu! there is a diff between bangalore and madurai!

  
  
  I know it very well nilavu.
  
  I am here in bangalore only for the past 2 months. Before that, I used to watch all those things in Madurai and sivakasi. will b watching it on Jan 14 in sivakasi. Most of the films I have seen in Madurai. those people r crazy indeed.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jan 12 0:02:44 2006.

  vasanth_luv wrote:

  Shivaji wrote: kb wrote: aduchaalum pudhuchaalum annan thambi neeyum naanum da

  
  
  
  
  enna, kb vanthatum "ANTI CLIMAX" aagithuchu..
  
  kb - samaathaana thoothuvar. kalakeeteenga oru punch dialogue vachi..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jan 12 0:05:19 2006.

  kasi_sce wrote:

  Just one point: RK dint ask anyone to work against PMK in the '04 elections.. He was like I will vote for BJP and I m not insisting my fans to do the same in a public interview.. anyways thats his personal life and this forum, I believe is not for discussing about that.. Also I can make a thread only to bash KH and I m sure i ll get a good response.. So, Thiru its high time this thread is locked which invariably has changed into RK-bashing..

  
  
  
  kasi,
  
  definitly THIRU will lock this thread.
  
  THIRU gets a heart-attack everytime when a thread comes/becomes anti-RK.
  
  surely THIRU will lock this one just like the thread created by Vasanth earlier.
  
  

• From: NTR on Thu Jan 12 0:38:00 2006.

  All started by Surya
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 12 1:32:29 2006.

  well selva and others why do you guys want to create RK-bashing thread then?? Is there any thread for KH-bashing or for that matter ajith/vijay bashing?? Beats me
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 12 4:37:18 2006.

  Surya wrote:

  Some Kamal Fans have stooped down to the level of some Ajith and VJ fans by bashing Rajini every chance they get!! Nilavu wrote: infact many rajni fans joined the fan club and worked greatly thinking that they would become politically active oneday! If some MORON actually has nothing else to do other than WORKING GREATLY hoping they were going to becoming someone great in politics along with their favorite star....THEN THOSE IDIOTS DESEARVED IT! Quote: ..how dare they think abt tamilnadu people this way! Actors are getting elected are they not?!?! Blame the moronic voters if u don't like cine personalities coming to politics, not the stars! I agree that it's an idiotic decision to vote for actors, but why is it that only Rajini (Who hasn't even ENTERED politics) was bashed here for 2 pages but other actors like Sarathkumar were ignored! Quote: if he have courage he must have come...not just shouting and kindle his fans to make his movierun It's not the matter of courage!! If he WANTED to, he would have right after Padaiappa! If he HAD come after Padaiappa he would have gone places! And what the hell is his bullsh*t about his movies running because of political dialouges?? Have u not seen the number of his hits before he started them?? nilavu wrote: its similar to an advertisement There a HUGE, HUMUNGOUS, difference between that and what u said earlier! SP AKKA wrote: WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY? Because some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like one actor, the MUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE HEAVENS hate the other!

  
  
  let me answer!
  
  every fan will like their star to come to politics.... right?
  
  but the actor is gonna decide his decision.......
  
  rajni would have have known abt his stand from the beginning......that he is not gonna enter the politics straightly
  
  he could have said it straightly....but he made his fans keep interesting abt his "arasiyal pravesam"...so that he wont lose his fans!
  
  do u know lots of rajni fans joined vijayakanth party when vijayakanth started party!
  
  rajni wanted his fans to be interested in him!
  
  thats why the dialogues like"naan eppo varuven epdi varuvennu yaarukkum theriyadhu....aana varavendiya nerathula correcta varuven!....." etc dialogues came out!
  
  in baba he is the controller of script
  
  km : "enakku therinju oruthana cm aakalam"
  
  rajni :"yaaru"
  
  km : "neethan"
  
  what does this mean?
  
  in baba he made an impact such as all tamil people are begging rajni to be CM!......is this correct?
  
  if u r correct ...which means he doesnt cheat his fans ....then he is not clear and always in dilemma at any point of his career
  
  

• From: Lambretta on Thu Jan 12 4:50:53 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  every fan will like their star to come to politics.... right?

  
  Nope, not me! I'm glad AB din't delve too deep into it & also kamal....!
  
  

  Quote:

  but the actor is gonna decide his decision.......

  
  Too true.....!
  
  

• From: Alien on Thu Jan 12 5:34:05 2006.

  selvakumar wrote:

  surely THIRU will lock this one just like the thread created by Vasanth earlier.

  
  Selva, u've mistaken.......
  I never created a thread in forumhub ! ,,,
  I'm yet to create a single thread ....
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 12 5:38:56 2006.

  that was my thread selva
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jan 12 5:42:08 2006.

  o.k sorry for de confusion
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Jan 12 5:57:27 2006.

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  rajni wanted his fans to be interested in him!

  
  
  YEAH YEAH YEAH. ELSE RAJNI never had fans before. Its only because he started talking politics he started getting name or fame.
  
  

  Quote:

  if u r correct ...which means he doesnt cheat his fans ....then he is not clear and always in dilemma at any point of his career

  
  
  I suppose many are not clear of their careers at some point of time.
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 12 6:01:22 2006.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  nilavupriyan wrote: rajni wanted his fans to be interested in him! YEAH YEAH YEAH. ELSE RAJNI never had fans before. Its only because he started talking politics he started getting name or fame. Quote: if u r correct ...which means he doesnt cheat his fans ....then he is not clear and always in dilemma at any point of his career I suppose many are not clear of their careers at some point of time.

  
  
  .....then why did many rajni fans jump to vijayakanth party when he started party
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Jan 12 6:11:08 2006.

  There are various ways of looking at it.
  
  1. Rajni has/had fans apart from his politics-craze fans.
  
  2. Inspite of him not chosing politics .......
  
  a.HIS MOVIES STILL RUN,
  b.HEZ STILL NO.1,
  c.HE WAS SUPER STAR EVEN BEFORE THAT.
  dl.Facts dont change.
  
  Obviously all gangs and fan clubs who were into political issues, HAD THOUGHT HE WAS THE NEXT BEST CHOICE, when they found, he was not willing to be their dream, they jumped to the other one (namely vijayakanth who was the other option available)
  
  Neither the fans get cheated here nor rajni gained anything by politicising his movies.
  
  If RAJNI was not there, those fans would have joined another GHAJINI to quench their thrist for MOVIE-oriented-political leaders.
  
  If u argue, talking or taking feed back is CHEATING,
  
  any MLAS MPS WHO DOES CAMPAIGNING AND LATER WITHDRAW before election for various personal reasons ARE ALL CHEATERS acc to u.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Jan 12 6:17:32 2006.

  The thread's title itself is invalid for RK.
  
  MGR spoke political dialogues.
  KARNUNANITHI spoke politics via movies.
  
  RK just had DIRECT OR INDIRECT dialogues SAYING he may enter politics.
  
  NEVER DID HE INDULGE IN ANY PROMISES THRO HIS MOVIES.....
  
  ************
  
  WHATS POLITICS?
  
  Politics is not JUST SPEAKING OUT ONE'S INTENTION TO ENTER POLITICS
  
  Politics involves PROMISES MADE.
  
  politics involves CAMPAIGNING.
  
  Speaking out one's intention or standing for election is EVERY INDIAN CITIZEN'S primary RIGHT .
  
  If our ppl VOTE for him based on movie dialogues, and he failed to keep up those promises, then THATS CHEATING.
  
  IF SOMENE watches a movie BASED ON his political oriented punch dialogues...thats not cheating.
  
  HIS MOVIE WAS FOR ENTERTAINING. he entertained. matter is over.
  
  Where did he make promises to keep?
  
  

• From: Kumar on Thu Jan 12 7:17:12 2006.

  The problem also lies with fans who can't seem to distinguish between film dialogues and reality AND the actors/politician wannabes who take advantage of this.
  
  It's not so much an actors right to talk polictics on screen; it's the intention. It's as clear as daylight that Vijayakanth's intentions are to climb up the political ladder and establish himself as a potential potential political leader through his movies and dialogues.
  
  (And let's be honest here folks- most of these dialogues are speeches and declarations, not dialogues.)
  
  This formula has obviously worked well through the years; MGR, Kalaignar, etc have used this method successfully. That's why actors are still using this method today.
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 12 8:33:35 2006.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  The thread's title itself is invalid for RK. MGR spoke political dialogues. KARNUNANITHI spoke politics via movies. RK just had DIRECT OR INDIRECT dialogues SAYING he may enter politics. NEVER DID HE INDULGE IN ANY PROMISES THRO HIS MOVIES.....

  
  
  m.g.r speaks political dialogues?
  
  m.g.r compaigned for d.m.k via cinema!....karunanithi did the same..
  
  there is a great difference!....he dint make movies in which he hype his status as cm...he had always said "anna naamam vaazhka" or "udhaya suriyan ezhum"..that too symbolic dialogues!
  
  its not wrong if rajni speaks them!
  
  but he cheated the common fans ...hardcore fans by those dialogues!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 12 8:46:59 2006.

  Quote:

  but he cheated the common fans ...hardcore fans by those dialogues!

  
  
  I m a *common hardcore fan* of RK.. he dint cheat me
  
  All my RK fan friends have the same opinion as me.. I was always against him entering politics and its good that he dint..
  
  So why dont you better start bothering about something else, when WE RK fans aint bothered???
  
  

• From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 12 8:50:30 2006.

  u are not a common man!
  
  i must have said uneducated common people!
  
  have u seen fans in his birthday shouting "thalaiva arasiyalukku vaa thalaiva"..that thought was planted by dialogues of rajni
  
  

• From: Surya on Thu Jan 12 14:01:17 2006.

  Vasanth wrote:

  Rajni all of a sudden announced his new film Jaggubhai amidst that election hullabaloo , later to be dropped, citing even a proper story wasn't finalised, as a reason.

  
  
  Movies get signed up, movies get dropped! It happens every other day in kollywood! Election time is just a coinsidence! Even if it wasn't, what's wrong? Okay, lets say that Rajini DID have ideas of coming into politics sooner or later, (There's no other reason for him claim that he will because his movies are SUPER HITS even without this political "drama") r u claiming that he said that his movie will release around the time of the elections because he was somehow magically gonna suddenly contest?? Or that he thought he was gonna influence the voting polls? That last statement is not true for sure, because he didn't say anything to influence the polls. All he did was say what his preference was! He also in fact requested his fans to "Vote for who you want to vote, this is only my decision and preference" So I don't see anything wrong in him announceing him movie, and dropping it later on.
  
  

  Quote:

  "Coudn't have Rajni stopped that, if he didn't really want to *misuse* his fans' time & work? "

  
  
  Stopped what? The idea that he was going to come to politics? How do u know that he knew that he wasn't for sure??
  
  

  Quote:

  Rajni didn't do it in CM for some other reasons

  
  
  I know that u meant Ramadoss and Thollai. Erumai here, but @ the time the shooting was giong on for CM, Ramadass hadn't even shown what he was capable of! He was into this Engum Tamiz, Ethilum Thamiz movement. Also, Ramadoss has been yelling @ the top of his lungs about Rajini Smoking on screen for years, since the time when the shooting for Arunachalam was going on! he smoked in Padaiappa, He smoked in Baba, and just completly ignored Ramadoss! And let me add, That was freagin AWESOME!
  
  

  Quote:

  I used smoking & fanclubs, etc to say that he had SOME CHANCES to DO GREAT deeds, but he didn't

  
  
  Just because he didn't do good deeds....turns his neutral acts into bad? U yourself have said that there is nothing wrong if Rajini smokes in Shivaji!
  
  

  Quote:

  Yet, I'm yet to say a Bad deed abt Rajni

  
  
  A BAD DEED as in a strainght out, flat, open one....yes you are. Everything u've claimed so far cannot be considered a bad deed.
  
  

  Kasi wrote:

  well selva and others why do you guys want to create RK-bashing thread then?? Is there any thread for KH-bashing or for that matter ajith/vijay bashing?? Beats me

  
  
  I don't understand why ppl have this unwarrented hatred towards Rajini either! I know one hubber for sure, HATES his political stance (BJP), and turns it into a whole religious issue when I talked to him about it. But other hubbers...beats the hell outta me too!
  
  

  Nilavu wrote:

  he could have said it straightly....but he made his fans keep interesting abt his "arasiyal pravesam"...so that he wont lose his fans!

  
  
  He said that he won't come to politics before CM was released! His fans didn't seem to be LOST considering the records it broke!
  
  

  Quote:

  do u know lots of rajni fans joined vijayakanth party when vijayakanth started party!

  
  
  I don't see ur logic here nilavu! Just because they joined VJK's party means that they are no longer Rajini's fans?? Again....r u coming back to the point that if u like one, then u must hate the other which I stated about some kamal fans earlier!
  
  

  Quote:

  if u r correct ...which means he doesnt cheat his fans ....then he is not clear and always in dilemma at any point of his career

  
  
  @ any point in his career!?!?! The political dialouges only started AFTER Annamalai! That was about 20 years after he had settled in his carrer! I'm saying that he was in a dilemma about entering into politics! Which he finally dedided wasn't for him which he annouced!
  
  

  SP AKKA wrote:

  2. Inspite of him not chosing politics ....... a.HIS MOVIES STILL RUN, b.HEZ STILL NO.1, c.HE WAS SUPER STAR EVEN BEFORE THAT. dl.Facts dont change. Neither the fans get cheated here nor rajni gained anything by politicising his movies. MGR spoke political dialogues. KARNUNANITHI spoke politics via movies. RK just had DIRECT OR INDIRECT dialogues SAYING he may enter politics. NEVER DID HE INDULGE IN ANY PROMISES THRO HIS MOVIES..... ************ WHATS POLITICS? Politics is not JUST SPEAKING OUT ONE'S INTENTION TO ENTER POLITICS Politics involves PROMISES MADE. politics involves CAMPAIGNING. Speaking out one's intention or standing for election is EVERY INDIAN CITIZEN'S primary RIGHT . If our ppl VOTE for him based on movie dialogues, and he failed to keep up those promises, then THATS CHEATING. IF SOMENE watches a movie BASED ON his political oriented punch dialogues...thats not cheating. HIS MOVIE WAS FOR ENTERTAINING. he entertained. matter is over. Where did he make promises to keep?

  
  
  AWESOME LINES!!!
  
  

  Nilavu wrote:

  i must have said uneducated common people! have u seen fans in his birthday shouting "thalaiva arasiyalukku vaa thalaiva"..that thought was planted by dialogues of rajni

  
  
  So they are cheated if he doesn't come to politics? Or is Rajini cheating his fans because he himself wasn't sure about his entry in politics?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jan 16 5:32:03 2006.

  kasi_sce wrote:

  well selva and others why do you guys want to create RK-bashing thread then?? Is there any thread for KH-bashing or for that matter ajith/vijay bashing?? Beats me

  
  
  kasi,
  
  sorry for the late reply
  
  You might have seen a thread by name "producer committed suicide coz of ajith". it was an anti-ajith thread. why did thiru allowed that? this is my question. THIRU is more careful in locking an anti-RK thread but not for other actors.
  
  Also this thread invites free conversation. we can discuss a lot about actors like sarathkumar, vijaykanth, etc and obviously we should discuss about RK.RK is the much expected man. Most number of times, arguments will be about RK.
  
  THIRU is telling that if threads are created for bashing one actor, they ll b locked. then what abt that ajith thread? that is my point.
  
  Is it not an obstruction to the definition of hub itself?
  
  just like vasanth said, do we create threads for singing praises of an actor alone?
  
  

• From: Alien on Fri Mar 24 8:28:38 2006.

  Alien wrote:

  Surya wrote: Some Kamal Fans have stooped down to the level of some Ajith and VJ fans by bashing Rajini every chance they get!! I know u were referring to Nilavu & me.... Why is this forum here? To discuss things from different perspectives...Do u just want to keep singing praises for actors?..... I didn't find anything wrong with the very first post of Nilavu...Didn't Rajni exploit his fans work & time?? In 2004 elections, weren't they made to work against PMK?? ......... But the other heroes mentioned here actually had come to politics sooner or later ...like MGR, KB, Ramarajan, Sarath, Vijaykanth........ Surya wrote: SP AKKA wrote: WHY SO MUCH PARTIALITY? Because some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like one actor, the MUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE HEAVENS hate the other! Shall I say that some ppl have an idiotic idea that if they like an actor, they should support him in whatever he does, doesn't matter good deed or bad deed ...

  
  

  Alien wrote:

  Surya, Sorry I don't have time now to go on abt that 2004 election things & moreover my knowledge is quite limited there.........Yeah those fans r real idiots, to have worked for Rajni on a useless matter, but couldn't have Rajni saved them from that?....Thats where my point abt "not good" deed comes !...And for another instance, first of all , there is ABS nothing wrong in smoking in films or drinking or blah blah.... But once it was found that really influences youngsters into smoking, didn't Kamal stop it in his films? Didn't SRK stop it too ?? ...They did it bcos, they were concerned for the life of youngsters & stopped it (It might make ABS no diff for them on their films, whether they smoke or not) ...............Now they r GOOD deeds!!......Same goes for fan clubs n etc,.. Yet, I didn't say a BAD deed of rajni yet.....

  
  
  
  
  Wow !! Nilavu machi rocks !!! When v had discussions abt this topic, some closed-minded rajni fans, surya machi , sp akka didn't want to accept the fact that Rajni cheated his fans and made a mess in their life !! Now it has been brought to limelight by rajni fans themselves .. Pls read this week Vikatan, where a fan of rajni says that he was brought into this "political saakkadai " by rajni and rajni only !
  I just wanted to make myself clear here , to prove our fella hubbers what I had been discussing some times back ... Rajni is an opportunist, is selfish, greedy .... In one word >>>>> ............ .....
  
  Just getting emotional won't change the facts
  
  Hopefully atleast now he gets some guts or borrows it from elsewhere and help those , who been put into a misery by him
  
  And surya machi, pls read them(vikatan) and u would know I was right in that 2004 elec, Jaggubhai et al., ... Rajni only made them work
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Mar 24 8:48:08 2006.

  I do agree with the same.
  
  Many people might disagree with the fact by telling that they are fans for Rajini's films only.
  
  But reality is not like that. I have seen many rajini fans expressing their anger over this issue.
  
  In 96 elections, RK gave support for DMK-TMK alliance and fans worked for his words
  
  In the Lok sabha elections that followed shortly, again he gave the support. Fans worked for his words
  
  In 2001 elections, he stayed without saying a single word.
  
  During BABA times, he left his fans to face the cruel man handling by RAMADAAS & Co. In the very next press meet he said that he will file a case against them. what is the result of that case
  
  Then he gave his support for AIADMK in the recent, LOK sabha election, - again fans worked like anything in the PMK areas. what did they get?
  
  And now he is back to his period before 96.. You can vote for anyone
  
  In the future, Fans should not mind their THALAIVAR's words reg Politics..
  
  They should face the reality and should enjoy his films alone without treating him as a supernatural force..
  
  

• From: r_o_j_a on Fri Mar 24 10:34:27 2006.

  being an popular actor has certain impact on the voters.
  
  but in reality this voters have this impression that "what they see in cinema , is what they might get when they vote for the actor "
  for example :- positive characters , heroism
  
  when these actors deliver such political dialogues , they don't realise that they can't reform the current political dilemma in Tamil Nadu. It is difficult to change bad habits and therefore political message delivered by actors don't mix well with reality.