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Maniratnam vs Kamalhasan
Topic started by nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 0:16:13 2006. |
From: Nerd on Mon Jan 2 0:25:16 2006. |
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i can see pithamagan any time of day and probably repeated 20 times already, same goes to 7g/kadhal kondaen |
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 0:30:26 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
7G, KK in this list?? hmm.. ther r people who enjoy ravikrishna staring at sonia agarwal's <you know what> for most part of the movie and ravikrishna abusing his own father in censored words if you call MR a hollywood-stealer, then u shunt b a fan of KH as well NP, sometimes u hit the bull's eye |
From: Guess_Me on Mon Jan 2 1:11:59 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: | ||||
hello kasi! till now kamal haasan has directed 3 movies 1)hey raam 2)virumaandi 3)chachi 420 hey raam had its originality...virumaandi too chachi 420 is inspired.....but completely a diff story line from mrs.doubtfire and more hilarious than mrs.doubtfire as a creator kamal has originality |
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 9:25:52 2006. |
Guess_Me wrote: | ||||||
Virumandi isnt that original. It is certainly inspired by Kevin Spacey's The Life of David Gayle (2003) |
From: njv on Mon Jan 2 18:39:10 2006. |
From: vijayr on Tue Jan 3 0:22:13 2006. |
From: njv on Tue Jan 3 0:46:53 2006. |
From: Nerd on Tue Jan 3 8:01:51 2006. |
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but compared to his 200+ movies this 10/20 is lot less |
From: vijayr on Tue Jan 3 12:18:51 2006. |
From: kalladicrapp on Tue Jan 3 14:50:20 2006. |
From: njv on Tue Jan 3 15:18:36 2006. |
kalladicrapp wrote: |
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/News/News39/30.12.05e/pudupettai.html
blame all the chennai college kids |
From: kalladicrapp on Tue Jan 3 15:58:01 2006. |
From: vijayr on Tue Jan 3 16:56:59 2006. |
From: njv on Tue Jan 3 22:37:02 2006. |
From: Alien on Tue Jan 3 23:51:45 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
Well, Kamal seems to be nowhere in that list |
From: ansa400 on Wed Jan 4 0:29:05 2006. |
From: vijayr on Wed Jan 4 0:44:55 2006. |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 4 3:02:11 2006. |
From: aruvi on Wed Jan 4 4:16:46 2006. |
From: aruvi on Wed Jan 4 4:16:46 2006. |
From: Shankar on Wed Jan 4 5:23:10 2006. |
From: MADDY on Wed Jan 4 6:41:42 2006. |
Shankar wrote: |
We have to admit the fact that he's past his prime, and just accept the new crop of good directors. To me Bala, Selva and gowtham menon more than make up the loss of mani. |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 4 7:38:33 2006. |
Shankar wrote: |
aruvi,
I agree sivakasi is abso lousy movie...But what about Yuva ? Does a fancy looking screenplay make a movie great ?? The movie had nothing other than a "different" screenplay (which again wasn't Mani's original idea)...had mani made a movie on the lines of virumANdi, I would've called a good effort.... |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 4 9:54:48 2006. |
From: ansa400 on Wed Jan 4 10:01:40 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
AE is just an ordinary work, no point in bringing Sivakasi here to make it look gr8 .... |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 4 10:25:32 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 4 11:48:26 2006. |
From: vijayr on Wed Jan 4 12:24:46 2006. |
From: Guess_Me on Wed Jan 4 13:01:54 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
" and with Kaadhal Konden, the movie story itself was like a rehash of Baazigar/Darr/Guna etc. with a predictable ending. Selvaraghavan lacks subtlety when dealing with sensitive issues like child abuse and so on. The way he illustrates it in Kaadhal Konden is pukable.And although YSR fans might think otherwise, music and songs picturization in Selva's films are just average at best. |
From: njv on Wed Jan 4 13:19:31 2006. |
From: vijayr on Wed Jan 4 13:53:54 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 4 14:51:13 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
Kamal's usage of graphics is laughable both in Hey Ram and Virumandi |
From: Guess_Me on Wed Jan 4 15:24:40 2006. |
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"Virumandi by all means is much better movie than any of mani movie" |
From: njv on Wed Jan 4 15:35:15 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: | ||
dont just say something as u can! |
From: njv on Wed Jan 4 15:42:56 2006. |
Guess_Me wrote: | ||
Wow!!!! This is one of the strangest comments I have heard in this forum. If you believe Virumandi is better than any of Mani's movies, remember Mani's Roja has been watched by atleast half the country just for its quality presentation while Virumandi strictly stayed within the borders of Tamil Nadu. If you want to compare one of Kamal's latest movies with Mani's, let it be Anbe Sivam. That was truely class (though inspired). |
From: vijayr on Wed Jan 4 16:44:51 2006. |
From: njv on Wed Jan 4 18:03:32 2006. |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 4 21:02:17 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
for every Kamal movie, even I can list out the Hollywood/other inspirations, including Virumandi. It doesnt prove anything. |
From: ansa400 on Wed Jan 4 22:34:46 2006. |
njv wrote: |
That doesnt mean it isnt good. Can you name one Mani movie better than Thavamai Thavamirundhu. |
njv wrote: |
Roja is seen by many because of ARR's new sound and "kashmir" issue. Think about Roja with out "chinna chinna aasai" and tell me if it would have been seen by many. |
vijayr wrote: |
And if it is indeed a crime to make a film for national audience(which I dont understand why) Yor demand that directors should make movies only for Tamilians or "Tamil culture" shows only your narrowmindedness, nothing else. It doesnt show any "cultural confusion" but merely confusion on your part. |
njv wrote: |
KH is trying to keep his identify and is pretty much "in" tamilnadu. |
From: Guess_Me on Wed Jan 4 22:34:57 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: | ||
Please come up for Mahanadhi or Heyram or for his acting performances in Salangai oli, Sippikkul muthu, Mahanadhi,......... |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 1:25:56 2006. |
From: Shankar on Thu Jan 5 2:25:02 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
for every Kamal movie, even I can list out the Hollywood/other inspirations, including Virumandi. It doesnt prove anything.
And saying Manirathnam "copied" Godfather is as absurd as it gets. Its sad you guys cant differentiate between a blatant lift and a very mild inspiration(at best). Have you watched all those original movies from which Mani supposedly "copied"? Probably not. Just relying on some tidbits that you read in sites like sify or indiaglitz. And Manirathnam's Kannathil muththamittal or Iruvar, both classy films, werent made for any Hindi or national audience. And if it is indeed a crime to make a film for national audience(which I dont understand why) even Kamal can be accused of doing the same with Hey Ram by roping in actors who couldnt even speak proper Tamil and spoiled the film's impact. Kamal tried to release it in Calcutta and elsewhere and ended up burning his fingers with demonstrators protesting to ban the film and so on as it was supposedly anti-Gandhian. Yor demand that directors should make movies only for Tamilians or "Tamil culture" shows only your narrowmindedness, nothing else. It doesnt show any "cultural confusion" but merely confusion on your part. nilavupriyan, the graphics in Hey Ram was one of its weakest links and was panned even by those who supported the film overall, if you think otherwise so be it. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 5 2:54:57 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
vasanth,no one is talking about Kamal's "acting" performances here. So please spare us the BS. |
From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 5 3:58:08 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
And saying Manirathnam "copied" Godfather is as absurd as it gets. Its sad you guys cant differentiate between a blatant lift and a very mild inspiration(at best). Have you watched all those original movies from which Mani supposedly "copied"? Probably not. Just relying on some tidbits that you read in sites like sify or indiaglitz.
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From: Shankar on Thu Jan 5 6:58:05 2006. |
From: njv on Thu Jan 5 8:22:38 2006. |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 11:36:40 2006. |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 11:40:46 2006. |
From: njv on Thu Jan 5 13:59:06 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
Mani also has enough original movies against his name . His so-called inspirations too are minimal and not blatant(like Kamal's). |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 14:10:26 2006. |
From: njv on Thu Jan 5 15:10:58 2006. |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 17:03:41 2006. |
From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 5 19:36:03 2006. |
From: rprasad on Thu Jan 5 19:50:14 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 5 20:08:17 2006. |
From: vijayr on Thu Jan 5 22:34:20 2006. |
From: svaisn on Thu Jan 5 22:58:08 2006. |
From: svaisn on Thu Jan 5 23:12:22 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 5 23:33:03 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
Going by your (ill)logic of judging directors purely by hits/flops, Dharani will turn out to be a better director than BR, kAMAL, Mani etc, with a 100% hit rate although funnily when it came to evaluating those ridiculous percentages, you considered only 3 movies for Kamal, safely excluding flops like Vikram, Raajapaarvai etc.? why? appo mattum adhu thevai illaya |
rprasad wrote: |
Kamal has directed only a couple of movies(though he has done screenplay and other stuff for others). He is a unique talent who is capable of doing a lot of stuff when it comes to movies from acting to directing. He is in a league of his own and yes his productions have adopted stories from other popular movies but his HeyRam and Virumandi(just because he used a similar style of story telling does not make it a copy) are original and brilliant attempts at movie making and showcases his verstalilty in direction. He is the only guy who is not afraid to experiment regardless of box office results. So lets not group him or place him in any list of directors. He is alone in his own category.
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From: vijayr on Fri Jan 6 0:08:40 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 0:20:48 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
"lets go ahead with comparing Mani with SR, Bala, dharani et al"
Right, Kamal doesnt even make it to the list. You seem to have gotten it finally after much trouble.Hope you stay that way |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 6 0:24:55 2006. |
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Show me one scene from KH movies as absurd |
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Avar eduthu poatta kuppai ellam IR, ARR, thotta tharani, santosh sivan, PCS, Madhiri aalunga saernthu gopuram mela utkaara vachaanga. |
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First know how many movies Kamal directed ! Only 3 & they r Heyram, Chachi 420, Virumaandi ! Virummandi & Chachi 420 were hits. What he did was correct. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 0:34:49 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
then why did he include those other movies in his list?? |
From: vijayr on Fri Jan 6 0:45:16 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 0:47:13 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
we'll stick to just what Kamal directed which is just 3 films out of which 1 flopped and 1 was heavily inspired |
From: Shankar on Fri Jan 6 1:36:42 2006. |
From: njv on Fri Jan 6 1:40:42 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 2:15:08 2006. |
From: njv on Fri Jan 6 2:16:39 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 2:21:02 2006. |
From: svaisn on Fri Jan 6 2:43:27 2006. |
njv wrote: |
i am going to change 1 avatar everday - just to show how versatile kamalji is |
From: njv on Fri Jan 6 2:47:30 2006. |
From: njv on Fri Jan 6 2:47:51 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 6:43:40 2006. |
svaisn wrote: |
But please dont do it in MR and ARR's forum... |
From: svaisn on Fri Jan 6 8:21:50 2006. |
njv wrote: |
btw MR has any forum/thread going on apart from this one? lol! |
From: svaisn on Fri Jan 6 8:22:48 2006. |
njv wrote: |
for the ones who dont know svaisn - and I wont do it in aRR forum ! |
From: rajasaranam on Fri Jan 6 8:42:15 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 8:55:22 2006. |
svaisn wrote: |
u neednt prove any one that Kamal is versatile... Everyone knows that..... But please dont do it in MR and ARR's forum... |
From: thumburu on Fri Jan 6 8:58:19 2006. |
From: thumburu on Fri Jan 6 9:13:23 2006. |
From: Jacky on Fri Jan 6 9:40:52 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 6 9:51:04 2006. |
Jacky wrote: |
He's a catalyst he can’t produce an outright art or commercial cinema all by himself from the scratch. |
From: Jacky on Fri Jan 6 10:10:56 2006. |
From: vijayr on Fri Jan 6 11:17:16 2006. |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 6 12:09:38 2006. |
rajasaranam wrote: |
........... |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 6 12:12:54 2006. |
From: njv on Fri Jan 6 14:01:07 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
Did KH direct MX?? Thats news to me!! Get your facts right.. dont say he ghost-directed.. thats worse.. MX had absolutely nothing in it |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 6 23:47:45 2006. |
From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 7 0:26:18 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
Dang.. wasted 50 secs searching for a *yawn* icon. They dont have it here, do they?? |
From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 7 0:34:22 2006. |
Jacky wrote: |
MR getting ripped off by IR fanatics for obvious reasons
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From: Jacky on Sat Jan 7 1:21:56 2006. |
From: ansa400 on Sat Jan 7 2:19:36 2006. |
rajasaranam wrote: |
IR fans are not so stupid else they will be going around saying PanjuArunachalam is the best ever writer and creator |
From: Nerd on Sat Jan 7 2:38:12 2006. |
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I won't be surprised when fans like U argue against KH, if KH & IR happen to split, in the future!! |
From: njv on Sat Jan 7 12:07:28 2006. |
From: vijayr on Sun Jan 8 13:16:08 2006. |
From: Shankar on Mon Jan 9 1:46:26 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
"Worse....you were 'Jalra'ing those guys who claimed that... . "
Shankar, nice try. Just to prove how you could twist facts and resort to cheap lies I am posting my original response from that thread http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=1038&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1470 "I might be mistaken but wasnt Sundarrajan there on the live show too conducting a song? This is sad. His voice is the one that starts off Potri paadadi poNNE in devar magan. I believe he has sung a few other songs too. He appeared in the TIS programme on SS music channel and came across as a very down-to-earth person." how does this amount to jalra'ing first of all? I was expressing my sadness at the situation like many others who did the same. Dont resort to cheap lies like you always do when your points get refuted "but then you shudn't be talking about ppl reading from sify/indiaglitz...that's what you do too, to come to ur conclusions... " another lie. Nothing about TIS or any other issue came in sify or Indiaglitz. You very well know that.Both the TIS and the Sundarrajan issue were mostly discussed by people who were involved with it or had close contacts and written about what transpired. My responses were purely towards these posts and also against nonchalant fans like you who wanted to close their eyes ands pretend nothing happened.. Its your convenient assumption and imagination that I rely on these sites. You seem to have serious problems and have raised it in a discussion which has nothing to do with IR :-)Like I said earlier, grow up, dont be stuck in 1998. |
From: vijayr on Mon Jan 9 11:02:17 2006. |
From: Shankar on Tue Jan 10 1:06:45 2006. |
From: Shankar on Tue Jan 10 1:15:23 2006. |
From: njv on Tue Jan 10 6:54:15 2006. |
From: vijayr on Tue Jan 10 11:31:02 2006. |
From: njv on Tue Jan 10 14:36:31 2006. |
vijayr wrote: |
Mr.njv here posted that he was "ashamed to be an IR fan and will never listen to his songs again". Now thats attacking. Some other HCIRFs wanted to file a suit against IR in that thread. Thats attacking. Funny, you didnt pick them all out.
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From: vijayr on Tue Jan 10 15:15:33 2006. |
From: vijayr on Tue Jan 10 15:16:29 2006. |
From: joe on Wed Jan 11 1:09:54 2006. |
Guess_Me wrote: | ||
Wow!!!! This is one of the strangest comments I have heard in this forum. If you believe Virumandi is better than any of Mani's movies, remember Mani's Roja has been watched by atleast half the country just for its quality presentation while Virumandi strictly stayed within the borders of Tamil Nadu. If you want to compare one of Kamal's latest movies with Mani's, let it be Anbe Sivam. That was truely class (though inspired). |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 1:13:01 2006. |
joe wrote: | ||||
ha ha..It is funny this comment comes from a Mohanlal fan..Sharukhan movies reached most parts of India ,whereas mohanlal movies never crosses the boarders of kerala .Does it mean Mohanlal is lower than SRK as an actor..ha ha.. Roja ,is a pukka commercial movie ..in the name of partriotsm ,it has maximum masala 'rukkumayiye rukkumaniye' in which all kilavisa dances for the couples first night ..Roja was the most hyped movie ..and the funny thing is TV keep on telecasting this movie ,as a symbol for partriotsm..GOD ..watch 'kappaloyyiya Thamizah' or 'Veera pandiya kattabomman' or 'Kamaraj' make you feel more patriotic than Roja which .clevery sell a masala movie with mixing patriotsm |
From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 1:14:27 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 1:16:08 2006. |
From: NTR on Wed Jan 11 1:17:00 2006. |
From: villan007 on Wed Jan 11 1:22:04 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Iruvar is one of the biggest failure of Tamilcinema of all time... |
From: joe on Wed Jan 11 1:57:14 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: | ||||||
in kappalotiya tamizhan shivaji is "round"...in veerapandiya kattabomman he is like a king .... |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 2:00:28 2006. |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 11 2:10:22 2006. |
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Roja ,is a pukka commercial movie |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 2:11:45 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
Indeed it is.. but there is this scene where Aswamy dives over the burning indian flag, which will induct patriotism into the dumbest of souls.. what a scene That single scene is more than enough to call roja a partriotic movie.. also isnt virumaaNdi also a pucca commercial movie??? IMO Hey ram is way better than virumaaNdi and vmdi is not a great cinema Well I underline IMO here |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 11 2:18:07 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 2:24:19 2006. |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 11 2:25:49 2006. |
From: joe on Wed Jan 11 2:55:57 2006. |
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 11 3:09:05 2006. |
From: joe on Wed Jan 11 3:53:07 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
Agreed Joe.. yes veerapaandiya kattabomman, kappalOttiya tamizhan were better patriotic movies than rOja.. but the point is rOja reached the whole of India, but unfortunately the other movies dint and thats the sole reason of telecasting rOjaa in DD... since the discussion is on MR and KH lets leave out shivaji.. for who there can be no competition when it comes to acting.. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 4:38:22 2006. |
joe wrote: |
Kamal is better creator,because kamal deals with a problem ,finding its roots to the core. Be it mahanathi or guna or kuruthipunal ,virumandi,heyram ..kamal did with conviction and full focus on the problem. This is my opnion. |
From: Kumar on Wed Jan 11 6:40:27 2006. |
From: Poornima on Wed Jan 11 11:05:07 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:23:46 2006. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 12:38:44 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:40:05 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 11 12:41:17 2006. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
wht is this topic about? |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 12:43:59 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Jan 11 12:45:48 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 11 12:46:24 2006. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
thiru
very well said. but what has kamal and maniratnam in common or what rivalry they have to be discussed UNDER 'VERSUS'? |
From: njv on Wed Jan 11 12:46:36 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 11 12:56:25 2006. |
njv wrote: |
common
- directors (this is what the main topic was about) - they both copy from hollywood - related to suhasini somehow - male - based in chennai rivalry - us |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 12:57:28 2006. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 11 12:58:35 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Why not include the following
1. Both have two eyes, two ears etc... 2. Both are married to girls. 3. etc.. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 11 13:04:05 2006. |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 11 19:28:53 2006. |
njv wrote: |
common
- directors (this is what the main topic was about) - they both copy from hollywood - related to suhasini somehow - male - based in chennai rivalry - us |
From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 12 7:40:20 2006. |
From: Kumar on Thu Jan 12 7:52:23 2006. |
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i don't think it's time yet to assess kamal haasan as a FILMMAKER as against actor, writer or 'creator' (!). of his three films, one was a tepid, hugely disappointing remake (chachi 420), one a confused exercise in narcissism and pretentious neo-nationalism (hey ram!) and one, a brilliant, technically avant-garde entertainer (virumandi). that's quite a mixed bag in terms of variety, but i think it's still premature to assess his filmmaking abilities with a seasoned campaigner like maniratnam.
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From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 12 8:01:47 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 8:50:22 2006. |
Poornima wrote: |
one a confused exercise in narcissism and pretentious neo-nationalism (hey ram!)
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From: Nerd on Thu Jan 12 8:51:03 2006. |
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The main reason behind was Kamal |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 8:51:19 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 9:38:08 2006. |
RajaRam wrote: |
after he directed virtually so many movies like AS,GUNA,Devar Mahan,Mahanadi,Kurudipunal etc. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 11:21:21 2006. |
Kumar wrote: |
(This reminds me of a critic who years ago said that in the movie Gandhi, the other characters were reduced to stick figures while Gandhi was almost in every frame. Well DUH!! That's why the movie was called "Gandhi", and not "The adventures of Gandhi, Jinnah, Nehru, Patel and all the other guys.") |
From: tamizharasan on Thu Jan 12 12:47:10 2006. |
From: karthik_sa2 on Thu Jan 12 13:13:20 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 12 13:20:09 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 13:25:55 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Thevar Magan was directed by Bharathan |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 12 13:29:05 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: | ||
Officially yes, but Aandavar had to take over owing to Bharathan's illness... |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 12 17:03:22 2006. |
From: kannannn on Thu Jan 12 19:44:17 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: | ||
Officially yes, but Aandavar had to take over owing to Bharathan's illness... |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 13 0:54:24 2006. |
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When it comes to extracting performances from the actors, both are great in their own way but i would guess Aandavar has an edge [that's just me]. |
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When it comes to variety in the subjects handled, Aandavar's versatility is obvious.... No two ways about it...[official direction or otherwise] |
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A lot has been said about Mani sir's technical brilliance. In my mind [also in the mind of people like Balu Mahendra], some of his earlier movies had some horrible cinematography by being extremely obtrusive and artificial [the early works of PC] |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 1:11:31 2006. |
From: NTR on Fri Jan 13 1:14:43 2006. |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 1:16:45 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Haha...
Dummy Directors Sundar C. Santhanabarathy Barathan |
From: NTR on Fri Jan 13 1:17:33 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 1:19:18 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
Also Mani's mouna raagam can beat any KH movie, IMO |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 1:22:22 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
He was made dummy by Kamal in Gounder Mavan |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 1:25:27 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: | ||
Have u seen any KH movie ??? No mani movie can come any close to KH's brilliant Dhevar Magan, Mahanadhi, Hey Ram, Anbe Sivam , Guna,......... The 3 mani movies that r any close r Nayagan, Iruvar, Mouna raagam. //I strongly disagree.. Did anyone ever thought that mohan can act?? or for that matter prashant?? Even one of KH's best perf was in a MR movie.. // Mohan , indeed has acted better in some other movies too...prashant , KH would rule with any director, so nothing with mani there...... |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 1:27:13 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 1:59:01 2006. |
karthik_sa2 wrote: |
can anybody clarify me who directed the film devar magan. |
From: NTR on Fri Jan 13 2:12:39 2006. |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 13 3:59:33 2006. |
From: joe on Fri Jan 13 4:29:54 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
You can roll on the floor and laugh but dont tell me that the movies offcially directed by KH are any better than mouna raagam.. also atleast 3-4 in that list were as worse as AE, if u call that the worst MR movie |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 6:32:59 2006. |
joe wrote: | ||
Kasi, I agree Maouna ragam is the best and clean movie of mani..not for arguement ,just tell u ,Mouna ragam's story is a straight lift from a mahendran movie ,not sure,either nenjathai killathe or some other mahendran movie. But anyway mouna ragam has an edge,I agree.But here are discussing overall performance ,not just one movie. Mani is best in nunipul methal ,while claiming he is dealing with a serious problem..But Kamal always goes into the root of the problem and deal with it's core values. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 6:38:27 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
You can roll on the floor and laugh but dont tell me that the movies offcially directed by KH are any better than mouna raagam........... |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 13 7:26:54 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 7:51:39 2006. |
njv wrote: |
kasi thats why u r rajni fan (instead of being a vijay fan atleast!) |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 13 7:56:01 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 8:01:59 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
kamal is best in script writing!...mani is nowhere near
hey raam,devar mahan,anbe sivam.....he explains the different dimensions of a charecter in the script...he explains the changes within the mentality of a person in his script...he doesnt just give the story like maniratnam. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 13 8:18:33 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 8:22:36 2006. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 13 8:25:06 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 8:26:20 2006. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
MANIRATNAM.......... well written short story for commercial magazine. KAMALHASSAN.......... is like READING A rich literary novel. |
From: great on Fri Jan 13 8:38:48 2006. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
true.
I can say it this way (like i already mentioned) MANIRATNAM.......... well written short story for commercial magazine. KAMALHASSAN.......... is like READING A rich literary novel. |
From: P_R on Fri Jan 13 11:11:03 2006. |
Alwarpet_Andavan wrote: |
Secondly, Aandavar often introduces "speed-breakers" in his movies, which He can very well do without. The prolongued love scenes in Mahanadhi, Virumaandi and Hey Ram [with Rani Mukherjee]* - see footnote. |
From: karthik_sa2 on Fri Jan 13 14:21:37 2006. |
Quote: |
kamal is best in script writing!...mani is nowhere near
hey raam,devar mahan,anbe sivam.....he explains the different dimensions of a charecter in the script...he explains the changes within the mentality of a person in his script...he doesnt just give the story like maniratnam |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 13 21:41:32 2006. |
From: P_R on Fri Jan 13 23:21:40 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Yeah, that baby looked artificial & was well eminent that it was a doll. |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 14 0:47:38 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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From: P_R on Sat Jan 14 1:04:39 2006. |
Kumar wrote: |
A movie like Hey Ram needs a real-life 3 dimensional character like Saket Ram. It's a movie ABOUT HIS LIFE, and it should have his character appearing in most of the film. |
From: P_R on Sat Jan 14 1:06:20 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Wow !! U do have a great way of perceiving cinematic arts ! ..... Maybe, they thought in that way too..... |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 1:08:05 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Saket's grandson to Abbas: En Thaathaa Neraya kadhai solvaar. Avar solra kadhai ellam first person singular dhaan.........oru oorle oru raaja irundhaarnu solla maattaar. Naan irundha oorla oru raja irundhaar mbar Dunno if I quoted this elsewhere but what if I repeat myself I'd just be pulling a MR |
From: great on Sat Jan 14 1:12:49 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Saket's grandson to Abbas: En Thaathaa Neraya kadhai solvaar. Avar solra kadhai ellam first person singular dhaan.........oru oorle oru raaja irundhaarnu solla maattaar. Naan irundha oorla oru raja irundhaar mbar Dunno if I quoted this elsewhere but what if I repeat myself I'd just be pulling a MR |
From: nickraman on Sat Jan 14 1:33:33 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 1:36:49 2006. |
From: great on Sat Jan 14 1:38:33 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
have mani made any full length comedy movie before
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From: Alien on Sat Jan 14 1:38:35 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 1:41:21 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Dilse |
From: P_R on Sat Jan 14 1:49:47 2006. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
I can say it this way (like i already mentioned) MANIRATNAM.......... well written short story for commercial magazine. KAMALHASSAN.......... is like READING A rich literary novel. |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 14 2:46:24 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
It is not the moral questions that we all face, that made Mahanadhi, but it was the way in which the screenplay got its best from every creative department including the IR's BGMs (violins when the hero is beaten up in prison is without parallel in movies ). |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 3:06:36 2006. |
From: Nerd on Sat Jan 14 6:39:16 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Dilse |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 14 6:59:15 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
The worst part is MX beat the crap out of Dilse rib-tickling stuff!! |
From: P_R on Sat Jan 14 7:22:04 2006. |
From: great on Sat Jan 14 7:49:30 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 8:48:41 2006. |
From: P_R on Sat Jan 14 10:59:19 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
there is a song called"ennuyire".....there are 8 stages of love....and film exactly portrays those 8 stages! |
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 14 13:02:57 2006. |
From: kannannn on Sat Jan 14 13:17:43 2006. |
From: lancelot on Sat Jan 14 13:31:55 2006. |
From: Kumar on Sun Jan 15 1:45:56 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
True. But I am not sure this is necessarily the yardstic to be used to judge a filmmaker. Philosophical questions, evocative situations do make a film memorable. At the same time the movie differs from a ink-on-paper based on technique and riveting story telling. How-you-say-it is as important, if not more important, than what you say. I found absolutely no philosophical insights in Kill Bill. But I still consider it a superior effort in filmmaking. It is not the moral questions that we all face, that made Mahanadhi, but it was the way in which the screenplay got its best from every creative department including the IR's BGMs (violins when the hero is beaten up in prison is without parallel in movies ). We should stick to comparing techniques of story telling deployed by Mani Ratnam and Kamal. This will help us appreciate both these talented craftsmen better. Who'll start ? |
From: Scale on Sun Jan 15 1:48:16 2006. |
From: Kumar on Sun Jan 15 1:54:20 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Saket's grandson to Abbas: En Thaathaa Neraya kadhai solvaar. Avar solra kadhai ellam first person singular dhaan.........oru oorle oru raaja irundhaarnu solla maattaar. Naan irundha oorla oru raja irundhaar mbar Dunno if I quoted this elsewhere but what if I repeat myself I'd just be pulling a MR |
From: Kumar on Sun Jan 15 2:13:32 2006. |
Quote: |
IMO, A Director is completely missing behind the camera, if he himself (selfishly) to play the lead role. |
From: MADDY on Sun Jan 15 3:55:35 2006. |
From: joe on Sun Jan 15 4:08:02 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 15 4:25:56 2006. |
MADDY wrote: |
i dunno y nilavu started this arguement?? Kamal is a good actor and mani has never tried his hand in acting.....so there is no point in comparing kamal and mani in this regard....i duuno y kamal fans are so insecure that they are comparing him with some directors.... |
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 15 4:26:28 2006. |
joe wrote: |
//kamal fans are so insecure that they are comparing him with some directors//
ha ha ha..are you coming from Mars? Kamal himself a director ,not just a director of P.vasu level ,but a remarkable director. |
From: Scale on Sun Jan 15 5:38:04 2006. |
Kumar wrote: | ||
"Selfishly"? Well, what was Kamal trying to accumulate for himself by this 'selfish' act? I see it this way; it's Kamal's story, his characters, etc. As an actor himself, he would be in a privy position to know what is required of the character as he is writing the character. Your quote on Mani's relief of having Kamal as the main part of the cast is actually proof that good actors sometimes take control of the characters; so it may not be a case of a director calling the shots all the time, but letting the actor develop the role. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Sun Jan 15 11:35:05 2006. |
Scale wrote: |
Kamal Hasan in his recent interview (someone quoted) that he was still thinking it would have been much better to have some young guy (karuppa) in virumandi's role. It shows that KH himself is not satisfied yet for that virumandi's role on a director's point of view. |
From: Scale on Sun Jan 15 12:41:37 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 15 12:51:15 2006. |
Scale wrote: |
I dont think so.
IF fair complextion is alone the shortcoming and the reason why he(Ur explanation) prefers some other actors then KAMAL could have overcomed it very easily. contrasta koraikkurathu voru periya vishayama enna kamalukku. |
From: P_R on Sun Jan 15 13:52:14 2006. |
Scale wrote: |
I dont think so.
IF fair complextion is alone the shortcoming and the reason why he(Ur explanation) prefers some other actors then KAMAL could have overcomed it very easily. contrasta koraikkurathu voru periya vishayama enna kamalukku. |
From: P_R on Sun Jan 15 14:34:36 2006. |
Kumar wrote: |
One thing I've noted with Kamal is the use of songs as part of the narrative, i.e songs built into the story. So in the case of Hey Ram, songs like 'Nee Paartha' is part of the background music while Saket Ram reminisces his life with his late wife. The same with Virumaandi; the title song is part of a festival, etc. (As such you may not hear the whole song in the movie). It's a unique technique compared to what most directors are doing (including Mani). |
From: kannannn on Sun Jan 15 15:56:34 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Jan 16 2:31:38 2006. |
Scale wrote: |
I dont think so.
|
From: NTR on Mon Jan 16 2:33:32 2006. |
From: Scale on Mon Jan 16 2:46:26 2006. |
From: NTR on Mon Jan 16 2:47:08 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Jan 16 2:52:47 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
I take the liberty to suspect that you were trying to be generous to the other side here. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Jan 16 2:58:36 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Mani simply ditch such a great music director, Ilayaraja..
Kamal has been loyal to his favorites.. Naseer Delhi Ganesh Ilayaraja Santhanabarathi |
From: great on Mon Jan 16 8:47:19 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Mani simply ditch such a great music director, Ilayaraja..
Kamal has been loyal to his favorites.. Naseer Delhi Ganesh Ilayaraja Santhanabarathi |
From: MADDY on Mon Jan 16 23:57:37 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Mani simply ditch such a great music director, Ilayaraja..
Kamal has been loyal to his favorites.. Naseer Delhi Ganesh Ilayaraja Santhanabarathi |
From: great on Tue Jan 17 3:06:48 2006. |
MADDY wrote: | ||
hey NTR i wud like to get this straight......are u saying here that Kamal has a better character than Maniratnam????in that sense how do u xplain his ditching of vani & sarika??? i think we shuld stick to technical details and nuthin else......hey man btw when did vijay looked like NTR??? guys, i think it is a bit unfair on kamal fans' to try comparing him with a director who has revolutionised Indian cinema for 20 years now......neways views xpressed here are interesting.....keep going guys..... |
From: joe on Tue Jan 17 5:19:45 2006. |
MADDY wrote: | ||
hey NTR i wud like to get this straight......are u saying here that Kamal has a better character than Maniratnam????in that sense how do u xplain his ditching of vani & sarika??? i think we shuld stick to technical details and nuthin else......hey man btw when did vijay looked like NTR??? guys, i think it is a bit unfair on kamal fans' to try comparing him with a director who has revolutionised Indian cinema for 20 years now......neways views xpressed here are interesting.....keep going guys..... |
From: Kumar on Tue Jan 17 7:39:52 2006. |
Quote: |
Kamal looks upon songs as a necessary evil and makes best use of them. Avoids them when possible (Pushpak, Kurudhippunal). He clearly sees is as the invention of the businessman. However, when he has to insert I feel his disgruntledness shows.
All said and done "Saandhupottu" sticks out like a sore thumb (well sore pinkie perhaps). "Poo Vaasam porappadum pennaE" or "raamar aanalum" leave a lot to be desired. Even the much acclaimed "Kadavul paadhi mirugam paadhi" is not among the most engrossing songs I have seen. MR on the other hand is peerless in his picturisation. All his songs are unabashedly 'escapes' from the movie. And he celebrates them. He has been way ahead of his time always: "Raaja raajaadhi raajanindha","andhi mazhai mEgam" and "raathiri nErathil" leave me in awe till this day. SRK brushing aside the flaming cinders in Dil Se is mindblowing. So they belong to distinctly different schools of thought. ? |
From: MADDY on Tue Jan 17 12:14:11 2006. |
joe wrote: |
NTR talking about kamal's loyal to talented artists..but are you unncessary talking about sarika and vani,but same time ask others to stick to technical aspect..what a funny guy you are?
Do you know the meaning of technical? |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Wed Jan 18 0:46:18 2006. |
MADDY wrote: |
.if we start comparing kamal and Maniratnam on sentimental issues then we know who wud win....
|
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Jan 18 6:48:30 2006. |
From: MADDY on Wed Jan 18 8:57:10 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: |
Appreciate your point about not dragging personal issues but may i humbly request you to please stop taking up the mantle of ManiRatnam's manasaatchi and shut up if you don't have anything to say on technical aspects. Nee enna rendu perukkum velakku pudichiya???? |
From: RajaRam on Wed Jan 18 9:43:29 2006. |
From: MADDY on Wed Jan 18 10:17:29 2006. |
RajaRam wrote: |
Now Let see the media's point of view in kamal and Mani movies.
Here I have taken AV's Marks for sample(AV is one of the popular tamil magazine and has more than 60 years history in media industry). Kamal movies since 1987. Nayagan-60. Sathya-48. Apoorva sahodararhal-44. Guna-It got 4 stars.(that time AV didn't give marks) Devar mahan-It got 4 stars. Mahanadhi-60 Nammavar-42 Kuruthipunal-44. Heyram-60. Anbe sivam-47. Virumandi-48. Mani movies since 1987. Nayagan-60. Anjali-57 Dhalapathy- It got 4 stars. Roja-that time they didn't give marks. Bombay-54 Iruvar- 40+(I don't know the exact mark) Alaipayuthe-44 Kannathi muthamittal-46 Aaiyudha ezhuthu-41 Apart from that DM and KP went to OSCAR nominee. also kamal movies got more National awards than mani movies. |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 18 10:21:53 2006. |
From: Sundar12345 on Wed Jan 18 10:45:44 2006. |
From: MADDY on Wed Jan 18 12:39:32 2006. |
Sundar12345 wrote: |
AV said that ARR composed KARUTHAMMA while sleeping?????
Oh my his dream music is itself a great deal. |
From: Scale on Wed Jan 18 13:00:37 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jan 18 17:50:58 2006. |
From: Kamalan on Wed Jan 18 21:09:49 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Allmost all of the reviews given by many newspaper / TV channels are biased.
AV once upon a time had a good reputation. Not nowadays. I think once they got a condemn letter from all quarters for writing bad review for the movie 'Vaanamae Ellai'. Nowadays more or less for all the Vijay movies they give marks more than 40. That itself will show the quality of their reviews. |
From: great on Wed Jan 18 21:11:30 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Jan 19 4:04:04 2006. |
From: P_R on Thu Jan 19 4:25:58 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: |
IMO AV reviews (like all the reviews in Thamizh magazines) are great if used as wrappers for oily bhajjis |
From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 19 6:19:28 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 19 6:36:41 2006. |
RajaRam wrote: |
But every one knows about quality of Guna and Kuruthipunal.. Thier point of view might be different. But Every tamil director wants to know AV and kumudam review when they release their movies. that is 100 % true. |
From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 19 6:45:37 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 19 6:48:13 2006. |
RajaRam wrote: |
In 1995 they gave 54 marks to Bombay.
Do you all agree that Bombay was better than Kuruthipunal(44 marks)? |
From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 19 6:50:36 2006. |
Quote: |
I very well agree VJ films are given much more higher marks than what they deserve |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 19 7:00:18 2006. |
From: RajaRam on Thu Jan 19 7:06:11 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 19 7:10:12 2006. |
From: great on Fri Jan 20 4:57:45 2006. |
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 20 12:36:43 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 20 12:38:01 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Vasool Raja is basically an entertainer & it got 43 , thats good
But Virumaandi & AnbeSivam & Kuruthipunal must have been given more than 50 ................. Vikatan must hav been so STUPID and OBTUSE to not give them more than 50 |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 20 16:17:25 2006. |
Quote: |
But Every tamil director wants to know AV and kumudam review when they release their movies.
|
From: nilavupriyan on Sat Jan 21 8:21:14 2006. |
From: Kamalan on Sat Jan 21 8:22:50 2006. |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 21 8:24:03 2006. |
meeraa wrote: |
do u guys have any idea how much did vikatan give for anbesivam and aalavandan |
From: Kamalan on Sat Jan 21 8:26:00 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: | ||
Anbe Sivam got 47 only...Aalavandhan arnd 43 , not sure |
From: great on Sat Jan 21 8:29:16 2006. |
From: RajaRam on Mon Jan 23 9:46:13 2006. |
From: kannannn on Mon Jan 23 20:07:43 2006. |
From: stranger on Mon Jan 23 20:09:09 2006. |
From: Alien on Mon Jan 23 20:17:27 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
You guys are insulting maNirathnam by starting a thread like this! |
From: stranger on Mon Jan 23 20:25:06 2006. |
From: Nerd on Mon Jan 23 20:28:52 2006. |
From: stranger on Mon Jan 23 20:30:29 2006. |
From: Alien on Mon Jan 23 20:30:32 2006. |
From: Nerd on Mon Jan 23 20:32:18 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
<<<<So the Mod cut those pages and pasted the cr*p here, since this is a better place for all that >>>
Hey that is an insult to the Tamil film section hubbers! |
From: stranger on Mon Jan 23 20:34:46 2006. |
From: Alien on Mon Jan 23 20:45:15 2006. |
From: stranger on Tue Jan 24 19:35:58 2006. |
From: Alien on Tue Jan 24 20:23:55 2006. |
From: kannannn on Tue Jan 24 20:53:38 2006. |
From: stranger on Wed Jan 25 19:07:15 2006. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jan 25 19:09:03 2006. |
From: stranger on Wed Jan 25 19:18:35 2006. |
kannannn wrote: |
He says that one member of the film fraternity told him during the interval that he has spoiled an excellent story by asking a relatively novice MR to direct it. KH continues to say: "Adhukkapuram andha vimarsagar onnum parusa sadhikkalai. Aanal MR engeyo chendru vittar, koodave tamizh cinemvayum azaiththukkondu". So Nayagan did more to MR than to KH, though it is one of KH's best. |
From: kannannn on Wed Jan 25 20:21:24 2006. |
From: Alien on Wed Jan 25 22:13:19 2006. |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 11:49:28 2006. |
kannannn wrote: |
My point is simple Stranger! Agreed MR had Mouna Raagam behind him, but that was it. |
Quote: |
At that point there was nothing else in his resume to boast of. |
Quote: |
Nayagan falls in a completely different genre. And the quote about someone remarking on letting MR handle the movie is to show how much MR was valued then (can anyone say that of him now?!). |
Quote: |
IMHO, Nayagan gave MR the impetus to try novel techniques in story-telling. That exatly is what KH meant when he said MR took tamil cinema along with him to great heights. |
From: NTR on Thu Jan 26 11:51:29 2006. |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:03:33 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Kamal can act
Mani can act?) |
From: NTR on Thu Jan 26 12:05:02 2006. |
From: great on Thu Jan 26 12:09:57 2006. |
NTR wrote: |
Kamal can act
Mani can act? Kamal can direct great movies.. Mani can too, but with the aid of great techinicians (PC, Ravi K, AR Rahman) Kamal uses new faces (Thiru etc) |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 26 12:10:57 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
What did KH have in mid-eighties just before nayagan? |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:34:18 2006. |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:36:04 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 26 12:37:58 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
I dont understand your logic here! mouna raagham took maNirathnam to the top before nayagan! |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:42:10 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 26 12:47:21 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
Those movies did not come out in mid-eighties.
He had movies such as: simla special per sollum piLLai mangammA sabatham kaadhal parisu and so many craps in mid-eighties. Why did you leave kalaththoor kaNNammA?? |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:48:23 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 26 12:48:36 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
Those movies you have mentioned were successful because he did not have a "filthy attitude" then and he listened to the directors and did his job only! |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:50:21 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
By the way per sollum pillai and Simla special were not craps. |
From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 26 12:50:33 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
I dont think so!
nayagan is just another movie for mani. that is all. His movie, agni natchathtiram made much more money than naayagan. He became popular in telugu in Geethaanjali. His movie, Kovaithambi's, idhaya kOyil was appreciated and so was mounaraagam. It is KH, who took the lesson he learnt from mani and stepped towards the hollywood crap! |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 12:51:24 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: | ||
You are showing your attitude everywhere. |
From: nilavupriyan on Thu Jan 26 12:52:31 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 26 13:00:17 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||||
You complained about personalattack yesterday. what do you think you are doing here?????????????????? Look at yourself first! |
From: Nerd on Thu Jan 26 13:44:06 2006. |
Quote: |
By the way per sollum pillai and Simla special were not craps. |
From: Shivaji on Thu Jan 26 17:53:05 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 26 19:28:16 2006. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Jan 26 19:34:30 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Whatever, It was Nayagan which made a MR !
Without Nayagan there wouldn't have been a Maniratnam ! But for Kamal , thats another movie, a better movie ofcourse, which earned him a national award, and critics award ! Its laughable bringing Agninathcthiram & geethanjali here to say he had success(then he would have been only a s.p.muthuraaman or R.v.udhayakumar with those kinda movies...) Mounaraagam, along with Nayagan, is the best movie of Mani till date IMO. But with only Mounaraagam under his belt, he couldn't have gone anywhere . Nayagan made him! |
From: stranger on Thu Jan 26 19:39:47 2006. |
Quote: |
Without Nayagan there wouldn't have been a Maniratnam ! |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 26 19:40:39 2006. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Yeah, I agree !! Nayagan made him ... And THALAPATHY moulded him for greater heights !!! |
From: Shivaji on Thu Jan 26 19:42:27 2006. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Yeah, I agree !! Nayagan made him ... And THALAPATHY moulded him for greater heights !!! |
From: Alien on Thu Jan 26 19:43:00 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
This statement is nothing but BS! |
From: NTR on Thu Jan 26 23:42:37 2006. |
From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 27 0:26:19 2006. |
From: RajaRam on Fri Jan 27 7:02:52 2006. |
Quote: |
Manirathnam made movies like Pagal Nilavu and Iruvar,, |
From: great on Fri Jan 27 7:04:28 2006. |
RajaRam wrote: | ||
One kannada movie(I don't know the quality) and Idhaya koil(Average movie). |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 8:21:57 2006. |
From: stranger on Fri Jan 27 11:02:46 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
mouna ragam dint give him a great break like barathiraja who got it in his first movie itself with "16 vayadhiniley" |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 11:06:10 2006. |
Quote: |
Nayagan was a make or break film for Mani. |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 11:15:35 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
What sort of BS is this??? Read aloud and see it for yourself! |
From: P_R on Fri Jan 27 11:24:15 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
I honestly feel that MR is a better movie in every frame when compared with nayagan. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 11:25:16 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
..mouna ragam dint give him a great break like barathiraja who got it in his first movie itself with "16 vayadhiniley" |
From: stranger on Fri Jan 27 11:27:53 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 11:28:14 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
What do you mean? If nayagan hadnt come out as expected do you mean that maNi wouldnt have existed till the noughts?? No way man.. I honestly feel that MR is a better movie in every frame when compared with nayagan. And that made him one of THE best and he substantiated it with nayagan |
From: stranger on Fri Jan 27 11:29:39 2006. |
Quote: |
did anyone in mouna ragam got a national award? |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 11:31:18 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 11:33:55 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
did anyone in mouna ragam got a national award? did mouna ragam was known all over india(even now?) its nayagan which made him popular all over india...its nayagan which made him a star director! why do u compare the hits of mani... sethu is not a greater hit than chandramukhi..but we respect bala than p.vasu! mouna ragam is a cute love story....with no special things regarding direction!..it portrayed a story nicely..thats it! do u remember agathiyan who gave kadhal kottai ...where is he now? only nayagan made him a great director !. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jan 27 11:36:40 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
So according to your logic, rickshawkaaran is a better movie than mounaraagam???? |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 11:37:01 2006. |
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did mouna ragam was known all over india(even now?) |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 11:37:35 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
So according to your logic, rickshawkaaran is a better movie than mounaraagam???? |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 11:40:39 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
did mouna ragam was known all over india(even now?) its nayagan which made him popular all over india...its nayagan which made him a star director! sethu is not a greater hit than chandramukhi..but we respect bala than p.vasu! mouna ragam is a cute love story....with no special things regarding direction!..it portrayed a story nicely..thats it! do u remember agathiyan who gave kadhal kottai ...where is he now? only nayagan made him a great director !. |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 11:41:21 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
Since stranger gave a fitting reply to your first point I take the second one..
There was a director called mahendran in the early 80s and late 70s. He gave outstanding movies like uthirip pookkaL, pasi, muLLum malarum etc.., He is still not known to even 2% of the northies. So do you mean to say that he is not a good creator?? He is THE best in his time, arguably I dont find anything terrific in his argument |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 11:43:54 2006. |
From: Shivaji on Fri Jan 27 11:50:51 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
Since stranger gave a fitting reply to your first point I take the second one..
There was a director called mahendran in the early 80s and late 70s. He gave outstanding movies like uthirip pookkaL, pasi, muLLum malarum etc.., He is still not known to even 2% of the northies. So do you mean to say that he is not a good creator?? He is THE best in his time, arguably I dont find anything terrific in his argument |
From: stranger on Fri Jan 27 11:52:37 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
Why in the world did I argue with a kid
YOU brought up this thing "DID Mouna raagam win accolades throughout the country" I said "Not even a single movie of mahendran is known to even 2% of the northies" Isnt it relevant?? Get the hell out of here if you dont get it |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 11:53:22 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
Why in the world did I argue with a kid
YOU brought up this thing "DID Mouna raagam win accolades throughout the country" I said "Not even a single movie of mahendran is known to even 2% of the northies" Isnt it relevant?? Get the hell out of here if you dont get it |
From: stranger on Fri Jan 27 11:53:33 2006. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Of Course !!! Rickshawkaran is a better movie than Mouna raagam |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 11:56:29 2006. |
From: Shivaji on Fri Jan 27 11:58:15 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
dint u understand what we are talking abt?
we are talking abt who is benifited by nayagan more? so i said mani is moer benifited by nayagan as he is known all over india by nayagan...and he is directing many hindi movies by that credit!.. but u brought mahendran by saying mahendran is a greater creator blah blah first know what we are discussing.....i havent said mani is a greater creator as he got national acclaim.. i just said he got benifited by nayagan as it was known all over india! stop banging....and read what we are discussing abt! |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 12:00:51 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 27 12:01:30 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Nilavu ...
Don't worry ! They always resort to this personal attack ... Take it easy .... U r argument was fine , just that they don't have a clue abt what to argue..... Its indisputable that Nayagan made Mani a star director , critics fav director !!! When they blabber other wise or some cr*p , its just laughable.... |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 12:01:30 2006. |
Shivaji wrote: |
mani benefitted more because he was new to the movie industry.if he had been a director from 1976,and if kamal started acting only in 1985,then kamal would have benefitted more.it's just a combinational effect |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 12:01:36 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Nilavu ...
Don't worry ! They always resort to this personal attack ... Take it easy .... U r argument was fine , just that they don't have a clue abt what to argue..... |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 27 12:03:34 2006. |
From: Shivaji on Fri Jan 27 12:07:08 2006. |
From: Shivaji on Fri Jan 27 12:07:41 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Shivaji,
Good One. |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 12:08:26 2006. |
Shivaji wrote: |
to bay,kasi and stranger: wtf are some vijay fans doing in 'superstar rajini' thread?they are teasing thalaivar to the core.neenga athellam kandukavae maateengala? |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 12:08:58 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
vasant thought you are rational. But you aint. I respect many KH fans here, surely not NP for his .. okay never mind He said mouna raagam dint make maNi coz it dint go all over India. I was like do you mean to say that mahendran is not good coz his movies also did not go places.. If you guys dont get it still, my mistake |
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 27 12:11:09 2006. |
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Nayagan, might very well be a ordinary hit, but announced his entry |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 12:13:17 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
I dont dispute that. He was known all over India coz of that. But my point is MR is a better movie than naayagan when we see maNi as a creator. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jan 27 12:16:36 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
shivaji, spare those kids.. dont spend ur precious time for that BS.. we have better things to do |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Jan 27 12:18:12 2006. |
From: kannannn on Fri Jan 27 12:37:38 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: | ||
I dont dispute that. He was known all over India coz of that. But my point is MR is a better movie than naayagan when we see maNi as a creator. |
From: Avenger on Fri Jan 27 12:41:38 2006. |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 12:42:38 2006. |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 27 12:44:23 2006. |
Avenger wrote: |
wuzz the official web-site of kamal...I jus wanna take a look at his filmography |
From: Alien on Fri Jan 27 12:45:16 2006. |
From: Justice on Fri Jan 27 12:49:34 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
Yeah, thats the one I was gonna post |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 28 1:08:37 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
MR is an extremely stylish and good looking movie with a neat plot. The slick narration and polished story telling. But comparing it with Nayagan will be be extremely unfair to Mouna Raagam. That too frame-by-frame ? Nayagan hits you by the raw power of the content and presentation. I can't think of any other way something could have been presented. I definitely cannot say this about Mouna Raagam. Nayagan is Mani Ratnam's best till date. Digression: All those who decry Kamal's "first-person" style scripts must watch Nayagan, written by MR. |
kannannn wrote: |
And I also dispute that Mouna Raagam is a better movie than Naayagan. It was awesome I agree, but it was one-dimensional. On the other hand, look at Nayagan. It brought out the various aspects of life in the underworld powerfully in a way unknown to tamil cinema and I doubt if MR could have pulled it off without KH's help and involvement. ('Azhwarpettai veedhigaLil naanun MaNium adhaiPatri pesiya iravugal eththanayo' - in KH's words). |
From: Sinthiya on Sat Jan 28 20:10:38 2006. |
From: Justice on Sat Jan 28 20:33:47 2006. |
Sinthiya wrote: |
out of topic:
jana ...you too with Ajith avatar...everyone's got it now...first Surya from Surya..now you too from Kamal... next time, put a Madhavan avatar... ... |
From: Alien on Sat Jan 28 21:51:10 2006. |
From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 29 23:15:15 2006. |
vasanth_luv wrote: |
If madhavan also sports a spectacular look, then I will have him as my avatar ! (Ok, for ur sake, madhavan is always spectacular ) Anyway my next avatar is Madhavan
BTW, take a look at Ajith's press-meet photos .... !! |
From: stranger on Tue Jan 31 15:01:34 2006. |
kannannn wrote: |
And I also dispute that Mouna Raagam is a better movie than Naayagan. It was awesome I agree, but it was one-dimensional. |
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On the other hand, look at Nayagan. |
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I doubt if MR could have pulled it off without KH's help and involvement. |
From: great on Tue Jan 31 15:25:19 2006. |
stranger wrote: |
But mouna raagam is REAL and it is meant for our culture and "original" but naayagan... |
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So much influenced and existence of such a maffia in India is questionable. It hardly fits our culture. So much influenced by mario puzzo and francis ford coppola. It is so unrealistic for the real INDIA! |
From: Nerd on Tue Jan 31 15:26:47 2006. |
From: stranger on Tue Jan 31 15:27:40 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
I guess even Varadharaja mudaliar was strongly inspired by mario puzo et all |
From: great on Tue Jan 31 15:27:47 2006. |
kasi_sce wrote: |
I guess even Varadharaja mudaliar was strongly inspired by mario puzo et all |
From: stranger on Tue Jan 31 15:29:38 2006. |
great wrote: |
if a good movie is made , you guyz will look from where its lifted...naayagan, is a inspiration of guy named Varatharaja muthaliar...who has doing same kinda work in mumbai. |
From: great on Tue Jan 31 15:30:23 2006. |
stranger wrote: | ||
Yeah, Dalapathy is inspired from Thiyaagaraaj mudaliyar and not BR Bandhulu's KarNan! |
From: P_R on Thu Mar 9 15:22:59 2006. |
From: kannannn on Thu Mar 9 15:28:58 2006. |
From: ramsri on Sat Mar 11 11:53:44 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
MR is never going to give a better movie. Kamal is perhaps never going to match that performance. |
From: selvakumar on Sun Mar 12 5:08:22 2006. |
ramsri wrote: |
now, i don't want to turn this into a discussion on kamal's best works ... instead, going with the topic of the thread - having agreed for a moment that Nayagan is indeed his best work to date, is it really fair to say that it took a director like mani to bring the best out of kamal? if he really is the kind of intelligent and perceptive actor we know him to be, a greater part of his body of work should really have been closer to the level he reached with Nayagan. but that, as we all know, is not the case. so that leads me to the logical question - what was that crucial factor in the partnership with mani which inspired the actor in him to achieve those heights? |
From: P_R on Sun Mar 12 11:19:25 2006. |
ramsri wrote: |
there is still a lot of debate among die-hard kamal fans as to which one of 'Nayagan', 'Guna' and half a dozen others is kamal's best role to date. for me, there really is no debate - Nayagan wins by a mile ... the kind of depth, maturity and insight he brought to the performance is something which no one (not even kamal himself) can match in the years to come. |
ramsri wrote: |
kamal is, by confession, not a method actor - yet, if ever there was an instance of a performance in which an actor brought a lot of his own perception and experience into the role he was playing, it has to be this. |
ramsri wrote: |
is it really fair to say that it took a director like mani to bring the best out of kamal? if he really is the kind of intelligent and perceptive actor we know him to be, a greater part of his body of work should really have been closer to the level he reached with Nayagan. but that, as we all know, is not the case. so that leads me to the logical question - what was that crucial factor in the partnership with mani which inspired the actor in him to achieve those heights? |
From: kannannn on Sun Mar 12 16:04:29 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Part of the answer is: It was so much an actor's script and he used every screen moment.Kamal was there in 80% of the frames (if Kamal had written the movie this would have been quoted as narcissism). |
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Did the minimal dialogues help more in highlighting the acting ? |
From: P_R on Mon Mar 13 0:38:24 2006. |
From: ramsri on Mon Mar 13 7:06:39 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
It would be great if you could elaborate on this. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Part of the answer is: It was so much an actor's script and he used every screen moment.Kamal was there in 80% of the frames (if Kamal had written the movie this would have been quoted as narcissism). |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Mar 13 8:28:06 2006. |
ramsri wrote: |
PR, Let me explain - I know for a fact that Kamal does not consider himself a method actor, despite being a confessed admirer of Brando. In fact, I once read an interview on Rediff where he said something like "I don't like playing the same roles again, just as you don't like wearing the same clothes on two consecutive days" - I don't remember the exact words he used, but the gist of it was that he believes in the philosophy that a true actor should be able to "switch on" and "switch off" at will (something similar to the Naseeruddin Shah school of thought). I think we've discussed this before - maybe on a different thread. |
ramsri wrote: | ||
Good point - Kamal-bashers should probably reflect on this awhile! |
From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 13 9:06:03 2006. |
From: bingleguy on Mon Mar 13 9:08:19 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
Good discussion going on here.My few cents(as if it really matters ):Is Nayagan Mani's best ever movie-YES
Is Nayagan Kamal's best ever performance-No I would rate Sagara Sangamam,Swathi Muthyam&Guna on par if not better.[/b] |
From: selvakumar on Mon Mar 13 9:13:53 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
Good discussion going on here.My few cents(as if it really matters ):Is Nayagan Mani's best ever movie-YES
Is Nayagan Kamal's best ever performance-No I would rate Sagara Sangamam,Swathi Muthyam&Guna on par if not better.[/b] |
From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 13 9:19:31 2006. |
From: Kamalan on Mon Mar 13 9:21:06 2006. |
From: Kamalan on Mon Mar 13 9:22:07 2006. |
From: selvakumar on Mon Mar 13 9:32:04 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
Selva,
MP is a damn good performance indeed but you cannot call it a complete performance becos his acting skills come into play only towards the climax. But with Nayakan,SM,SS&Guna,it's a more complete performance. Infact Mahanadhi too is a very commendable act-it's a very underrated film/performance.I would not hesitate to call it a classic. |
From: kannannn on Mon Mar 13 10:12:17 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Kannannn you got me wrong. I never said the dialogues were not good. I said it was kept to a bare minimum: no valavala
(next to gateway of india) Velu: Pidikkalenna sollu....naan thondharavu pannale Neela: Illai.......ungala paartha azuthuruvEnnu bayama irukku (in the hospital, when he decides to surrender) Selva: Ivvalo pEr senjadhukku arthamE illAme pOyirum.. Velu Velu: Naama ivvalo naal senjathukkellAm arthamE illAma pOyirun da Most of what Kamal conveyed in the movie was through his actions and not his words. That is what I meant. |
ramsri wrote: |
I don't remember the exact words he used, but the gist of it was that he believes in the philosophy that a true actor should be
able to "switch on" and "switch off" at will (something similar to the Naseeruddin Shah school of thought). |
From: Alien on Mon Mar 13 21:22:48 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: |
Best role: I wouldn't rate Nayagan as his best, both as a movie and for his acting. With respect to the Mani-KH equation, one unique feature of Nayagan was here was a protagonist in a Mani movie, NOT speaking the way a typical Mani film hero would. [Contrast this with Madhavan, Rajini, Arvind Samy.....] I don't mean all the other characters are the same or speak the same way. In Nayagan, KH brought in his own nativity and individuality. He brought in the locale of his character, which i feel is the biggest achilles heel of Mani. Would any other actor playing Velu Naicker acheived the same? I guess not. |
From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 14 1:32:25 2006. |
Alien wrote: |
I agree KH had brought a complete performance in Nayagan, though I too would rank some of his other performances higher than this ! Sippikkul Muthu, Hey Ram, Salangai Oli , Mahanathi, Guna ..... |
From: P_R on Tue Mar 14 3:37:40 2006. |
From: joe on Tue Mar 14 3:54:55 2006. |
ramsri wrote: |
When Nasser walks up to him, Kamal greets him with a hardly noticeable "Vanakkam" - then, on receiving no response, makes another oh-so-subtle gesture as if to say "Pogalam". Pure class - I, for one, cannot imagine Mani actually directing this scene. |
From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 14 7:22:29 2006. |
joe wrote: | ||
Wow! Pinniteenga Ramsri! |
From: bingleguy on Tue Mar 14 7:25:03 2006. |
selvakumar wrote: | ||||
And not to forget, !! The BGM of IR wow...........that follows the arrest.. |
From: P_R on Tue Mar 14 8:49:49 2006. |
selvakumar wrote: |
And not to forget, !! The BGM of IR wow...........that follows the arrest.. |
From: bingleguy on Tue Mar 14 8:58:47 2006. |
From: bingleguy on Tue Mar 14 9:02:08 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Ramsri's point "how much did MR actually direct Kamal" is an interesting line of exploration. We can chew on this.. |
From: kannannn on Tue Mar 14 9:56:40 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Ramsri's point "how much did MR actually direct Kamal" is an interesting line of exploration. We can chew on this.. |
From: Nerd on Tue Mar 14 13:33:56 2006. |
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Pure class - I, for one, cannot imagine Mani actually directing this scene. |
From: P_R on Tue Mar 14 14:28:01 2006. |
Nerd wrote: | ||
What do u mean here?? |
Nerd wrote: |
So, u guys are gonna claim that nayagan was also ghost-directed by KH?? |
From: kannannn on Tue Mar 14 19:03:34 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
..no-one could have thought of that expression from outside it had to come from within the actor or not at all. Right kannannn ? |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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From: ramsri on Wed Mar 15 2:58:06 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Kamal brings so much to the performance in Nayagan with a degree of subtlety that can all get missed in the bigger scheme of things. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Ramsri's point "how much did MR actually direct Kamal" is an interesting line of exploration. We can chew on this.. |
From: ramsri on Wed Mar 15 3:10:39 2006. |
joe wrote: | ||
Wow! Pinniteenga Ramsri! |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Mar 15 3:34:27 2006. |
From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 15 5:24:11 2006. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
as balumahendra said in an interview called "kollywood court".....he doesnt show how to act to kamal...he will just tell by words what is needed to kamal and kamal brings them in his face |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Wed Mar 15 5:40:23 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
Selva,
MP is a damn good performance indeed but you cannot call it a complete performance becos his acting skills come into play only towards the climax. |
From: Cinefan on Wed Mar 15 6:18:25 2006. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Mar 15 6:35:19 2006. |
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Mar 15 6:57:56 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
A_A,
By that standard,most of Kamal's films have something in it throughtout. When I say complete performance,I mean it comparing to Kamal's other efforts.That way Nayakan,Sagara Sangaman are more complete than MP. |
From: Cinefan on Wed Mar 15 8:19:59 2006. |
Sanguine Sridhar wrote: |
/* DIG
Cinefan anna Long time no see |
From: Cinefan on Wed Mar 15 8:21:03 2006. |
From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 15 8:23:18 2006. |
Cinefan wrote: |
Hey Sanguine Sridhar,Ru Beckham???? |
From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 15 8:31:14 2006. |
From: Cinefan on Wed Mar 15 8:33:02 2006. |
From: Alien on Thu Mar 16 0:54:39 2006. |
selvakumar wrote: |
I heard the same from Balachandar. In "Punnagai Mannan" suicide attempt scene, KB just conveyed what was expected from KH upon seeing the death of his beloved. KB told that they took more than what was expected. That "Marana Oolam" which he expected from KH, was undone by KH by his own standards. KB expressed that even after the shot was taken, that yelling by KH was ringing in the ears of the entire unit. That is where KH stands. He lives the character and brings out the best which could even surprise the creator. and might make them rethink for the following roles that must be played by that character / actor. |
From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 16 6:19:28 2006. |
Alien wrote: | ||
...... I learnt that Rajni's fav KH scene was that suicidal scene !! .... ..... Yeah, hez an actors' actor ... |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Mar 16 10:22:38 2006. |
selvakumar wrote: |
Just finished hearing "ThenPaandi seemailae"
IR voice made me I think the SUCCESS OF NAYAGAN heavily depends on the trio IR - KH - MR. A great team work indeed.. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Mar 16 10:25:21 2006. |
Alien wrote: | ||
...... I learnt that Rajni's fav KH scene was that suicidal scene !! .... ..... Yeah, hez an actors' actor ... |