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Topic started by ssanjinika on Wed Dec 14 15:12:24 2005. |
From: ssanjinika on Wed Dec 14 15:24:36 2005. |
From: vetrivendan on Wed Dec 14 16:20:55 2005. |
From: Kollywoodfan on Wed Dec 14 17:33:32 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: |
Ajit padatha sollitu Vijay padatha vida mudiuma..
Movie : Poove Unakkaga. Actual story : World knows. My Version Everything is the same..except.. Sangeetha does not arrive at the time vijay is staying in the house. She comes sometime in the flashback. The flashback is as follows.. Vijay a successful singer is married to sangeetha(the actual granddaughter) They have a small daughter.Sangeetha in a freak accident dies,but before dying she tells Vijay that she always wanted a large family, but since her parents married without their family's consent she didnt get to know her grandparents,uncles or cousins.Now that she is dying she wants that kind of family atleast for her daughter. And its upto Vijay to unite them and then procure that family for their daughter and hence "poove unakaga". The actual love story can be somekind of side story. (I really hated the fact that Vijay ended up alone!!) |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed Dec 14 23:40:35 2005. |
From: Alien on Wed Dec 14 23:51:58 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
SETHU.......... (Ive never watched the movie) But I would have married them off and blessed them with happiness ever after........ |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Dec 15 0:21:54 2005. |
From: Justice on Thu Dec 15 0:25:08 2005. |
From: Alien on Thu Dec 15 1:15:28 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
haunting. yes. My friends keeps singing that...
"engE sellum intha paathai.. yaaro yaaro arivaaro! " Is her name ABITA KUCHALAMBAAL |
From: mirattalji on Thu Dec 15 2:46:26 2005. |
From: Avenger on Thu Dec 15 3:45:40 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
PUNNAHAI MANNAN.........
I would have made those 2 poor things LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTERRRRRRRRR SETHU.......... (Ive never watched the movie) But I would have married them off and blessed them with happiness ever after........ (Guess I am happier directing FAIRY TALES) |
From: Avenger on Thu Dec 15 3:47:55 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Dec 15 4:28:52 2005. |
From: Avenger on Thu Dec 15 4:55:58 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Dec 15 5:02:01 2005. |
From: Avenger on Thu Dec 15 5:03:15 2005. |
From: Justice on Thu Dec 15 6:37:00 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Dec 15 7:05:55 2005. |
justice wrote: |
in all vijay movies, somebody should've acted |
From: ssanjinika on Thu Dec 15 9:46:30 2005. |
vetrivendan wrote: |
Its nice thread to discuss about, SS. You have good imagination.
I never thought of altering the story. For some films, I had thought the movie would have been good, if different actor has acted. One of recent I felt so was 'Ji'. I thought Vijay would have better suited for that role. Ajit/Vijay fans, It just my opinion. I dont mean to ignite a fight. |
From: vetrivendan on Thu Dec 15 10:03:46 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: | ||
Thanks Vetri..just wanted a thread to vent frustrations. . And I agree about Ji..it was not a good career move for Ajit at that point of time.He looked too tired and haggard(considering the pain he went through)to pull off a college guy. Another thing..Ajit should def grow back his mush . Trisha should have had a better role in the movie.What was that vellakku scene about..did she go off her bonkers? |
From: swathy on Thu Dec 15 10:12:36 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Dec 15 10:28:15 2005. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Dec 15 23:59:50 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 2:12:56 2005. |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Dec 16 2:21:30 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
hmm well beckham, yes, I am a revolutionary thinker.
VERY REVOLUTIONARY infact. (only thinking part...hehe, In practical life I am much different though ) yes, considering that climax, dont u think ITS DUMB? She stays back FOR THE SAKE OF A THREAD, not because she is in love or because she cares for him. And even more sick is the dialogue which says "ithaan thamizh panpaadu....thaali, namba thamizh peNGaL" etc!!! Nah. not my cup of tea. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Dec 16 2:24:03 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 2:32:03 2005. |
From: swathy on Fri Dec 16 3:31:35 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
PUNNAHAI MANNAN.........
I would have made those 2 poor things LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTERRRRRRRRR SETHU.......... (Ive never watched the movie) But I would have married them off and blessed them with happiness ever after........ (Guess I am happier directing FAIRY TALES) |
From: Pras on Fri Dec 16 3:48:51 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: |
Ajit padatha sollitu Vijay padatha vida mudiuma..
Movie : Poove Unakkaga. Actual story : World knows. My Version Everything is the same..except.. Sangeetha does not arrive at the time vijay is staying in the house. She comes sometime in the flashback. The flashback is as follows.. Vijay a successful singer is married to sangeetha(the actual granddaughter) They have a small daughter.Sangeetha in a freak accident dies,but before dying she tells Vijay that she always wanted a large family, but since her parents married without their family's consent she didnt get to know her grandparents,uncles or cousins.Now that she is dying she wants that kind of family atleast for her daughter. And its upto Vijay to unite them and then procure that family for their daughter and hence "poove unakaga". The actual love story can be somekind of side story. (I really hated the fact that Vijay ended up alone!!) |
From: ssanjinika on Fri Dec 16 9:10:35 2005. |
Pras wrote: |
that's another movie of Vikraman ... kokulam with arjun (flashback dies) and banupriya (who comes to arjun family to help them) .... |
From: P_R on Fri Dec 16 12:10:41 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 12:39:07 2005. |
From: ssanjinika on Fri Dec 16 12:41:38 2005. |
From: great on Fri Dec 16 12:45:07 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 12:52:01 2005. |
From: nilavupriyan on Fri Dec 16 12:58:54 2005. |
From: ssanjinika on Fri Dec 16 13:13:10 2005. |
nilavupriyan wrote: |
pr...ur climax is poetic.!
but doesnt fit tamil audience! |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 13:14:20 2005. |
From: Justice on Fri Dec 16 13:16:15 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
aw... is not that the reason GUNA failed to reach the mass |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Dec 16 13:20:12 2005. |
From: Justice on Fri Dec 16 13:24:39 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
U are not amongst the MASS
U are not amongst the CLASS too THEN WHAT ARE U kiddin justice. relax |
From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Dec 16 16:49:31 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
PUNNAHAI MANNAN.........
I would have made those 2 poor things LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTERRRRRRRRR SETHU.......... (Ive never watched the movie) But I would have married them off and blessed them with happiness ever after........ (Guess I am happier directing FAIRY TALES) |
From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Dec 16 16:51:25 2005. |
From: ssanjinika on Fri Dec 16 17:13:41 2005. |
Kollywoodfan wrote: |
Iyarkai...I wish Nancy had ended up with Shaam...and that the would have gotten captain lost and got amnesia or something!!) I felt so bad for Shaam!! |
From: Justice on Fri Dec 16 17:15:58 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: |
and here I was rooting for Arun kumar!!Though I would have changed a few other scenes also.The scenes just before the climax... Of course I felt bad for shaam..but u cant have a guy come back from the dead for this girl and then not give him the girl . |
From: Roshan on Sat Dec 17 10:55:57 2005. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
However, hardcore fan as I am I admit that on the whole, the climax sequence looks more like retribution than deliverance. |
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Worst of all the last scene with Krishna's daughter married and the happy Pongal back home really jar me every time. |
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The scene I begin is the one with with Yamuna where Krishna asks her if she can wait and arrests her panic with the kiss. She opens her eye speechless and he is gone (till here it is unchanged, Now...)
Krishnaswamy is out of the house and is walking fast in a lonely Mylapore lane. We see someone (Yamuna) pop out of the balcony making only half-hearted shouts asking him to stop. Krishna, in that T-Shirt and jeans,band-aid and cuts in the face has an angry but purposeful expression. The camera walks ahead of Krishna maintaining a close up and Yamuna is always seen as a fuzzy outline in the background. We hear Kamal's voice-over going "Pirar vaada pala seyalgaL seithu" By the time it reaches " naan veezhvEn enRu ninaithaayO" the point-of-view shifts over Yamuna's shoulder (in the balcony. She is no longer shouting out but merely watching him go) and we see Krishna walking away. From over the shoulder the view moves ahead. The last shot ("sandhOsham kondu irukka cheivaai") has only Krishna in the frame briskly walking away from the camera. Perhaps we can add a couple of dogs the rummaging the roadside garbage, looking up at the walking Krishna. (Sheesh symbolism is infectious ) Credits. |
From: swathy on Sat Dec 17 11:02:49 2005. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Here is what I propose: The scene I begin is the one with with Yamuna where Krishna asks her if she can wait and arrests her panic with the kiss. She opens her eye speechless and he is gone (till here it is unchanged, Now...) Krishnaswamy is out of the house and is walking fast in a lonely Mylapore lane. We see someone (Yamuna) pop out of the balcony making only half-hearted shouts asking him to stop. Krishna, in that T-Shirt and jeans,band-aid and cuts in the face has an angry but purposeful expression. The camera walks ahead of Krishna maintaining a close up and Yamuna is always seen as a fuzzy outline in the background. We hear Kamal's voice-over going "Pirar vaada pala seyalgaL seithu" By the time it reaches " naan veezhvEn enRu ninaithaayO" the point-of-view shifts over Yamuna's shoulder (in the balcony. She is no longer shouting out but merely watching him go) and we see Krishna walking away. From over the shoulder the view moves ahead. The last shot ("sandhOsham kondu irukka cheivaai") has only Krishna in the frame briskly walking away from the camera. Perhaps we can add a couple of dogs the rummaging the roadside garbage, looking up at the walking Krishna. (Sheesh symbolism is infectious ) Credits. |
From: P_R on Sat Dec 17 23:44:42 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: | ||
Thats probably true..cant expect the front benchers and to a certain extent the others too to get it.They would probably feel the film was incomplete(not enough imagination to understand whats happening I would suppose ) |
From: Kumar on Sun Dec 18 2:46:03 2005. |
From: RATHEESHAJITH on Sun Dec 18 3:01:23 2005. |
From: P_R on Sun Dec 18 6:33:19 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
PR,
Now that many agree with u, DONT FEEL U ARE WRONG |
From: P_R on Sun Dec 18 6:36:22 2005. |
Kumar wrote: |
Finally, I've managed to get in. Hi guys; I've been away for a while due to work commitments, my house being robbed and the great Forum Hub Lockout of 2005 (finally followed the Hub instructions and deleted the cookies, etc).
Now this is an interesting thread. PR, not bad at all. Love the dogs symbolism. Sounds gritty and hard. Good stuff. And this doesn't sound like your run-in-the-mill symbolism. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sun Dec 18 9:51:24 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sun Dec 18 11:28:34 2005. |
From: swathy on Mon Dec 19 0:37:37 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: | ||
and here I was rooting for Arun kumar!!Though I would have changed a few other scenes also.The scenes just before the climax... Of course I felt bad for shaam..but u cant have a guy come back from the dead for this girl and then not give him the girl . |
From: Justice on Mon Dec 19 0:40:27 2005. |
From: Roshan on Mon Dec 19 1:41:50 2005. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Thanks SP,ssanjinika,nilavu, swathy and Roshan (hey long time No See). |
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Why are you eager to suppose this ? When the audience comprehends the multi-dimensional storytelling for Virumaandi it is not necessary to underestimate them. |
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KB had a lot of 'life-goes-on' kind of endings in the 70s: AvargaL, AvaL oru Thodarkathai. They did work, right ? |
From: Kumar on Mon Dec 19 8:48:30 2005. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Mon Dec 19 13:37:26 2005. |
From: P_R on Mon Dec 19 15:11:22 2005. |
Kumar wrote: |
Now if THIS was a movie, I would direct it as such; I come home and I find Pasupathy robbing my house. I yell out "Dei!! Neeya!?? Nandri katta NAIYEA!!!" You see, Pasupathy use to be a worker in my instant rasam factory until I sacked him for being funny with the cleaning lady (Disco Shanti in her comeback role). |
Kumar wrote: |
We fight while Ilaiyaraaja conducts his orchestra. He temporarily blinds me with my isotonic drink....b*&%$#d! |
Kumar wrote: |
But I remember the training I received from a Tibetan monk (who can speak Tamil and looks surprisingly like Vijayakumar) which includes fighting blindfolded. I subdue Pasu and tie him with my gym towel. |
Kumar wrote: |
I whistle for my goat Ramu, who jumps over the front fence and through the window. (Note to self: remind the folks at Dhevar to train their livestock to enter via the front door). Ramu stands guard while I call the cops. (The hindi version has Ramu talking -thank you Hritik for the voice-over). The police arrive (Delhi Ganesh) and justice is served. |
From: ssanjinika on Mon Dec 19 16:46:49 2005. |
From: interz on Mon Dec 19 18:26:53 2005. |
From: Justice on Mon Dec 19 19:47:20 2005. |
interz wrote: |
I was dissapointed about Mugavari ending, they should have kept it real and make people understand sometimes you fail and you have to try again to succeed, it was really stupid of the director of mugavari to change the ending. |
From: Surya on Mon Dec 19 21:10:53 2005. |
From: great on Mon Dec 19 22:18:38 2005. |
interz wrote: |
I was dissapointed about Mugavari ending, they should have kept it real and make people understand sometimes you fail and you have to try again to succeed, it was really stupid of the director of mugavari to change the ending. |
From: ssanjinika on Mon Dec 19 22:27:42 2005. |
From: Roshan on Tue Dec 20 2:10:46 2005. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||||||
Kumar a very Wilde imagination this. Seeing love and sorrow as but material for film
You must also comb your wet hair back and say: "........Naan thunda eduthu un kaiya kattina......pattaiya kalappa pOrennu arthham"
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From: Roshan on Tue Dec 20 2:13:28 2005. |
From: rachel on Tue Dec 20 2:33:21 2005. |
Surya wrote: |
INTERZ,
Maddy in ur avatar is freaking me out man!!!!! |
From: Kumar on Tue Dec 20 7:22:18 2005. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Kumar a very Wilde imagination this. Seeing love and sorrow as but material for film
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Sakthiprabha wrote: |
Thats sad to hear. We very well understand the bitter taste and trauma such incidents leave behind. I supp cops are doing better jobs in less populated countries unlike INDIA. |
From: ssanjinika on Tue Dec 20 9:20:46 2005. |
From: great on Tue Dec 20 10:58:44 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: |
It could be reality that many people dont pursue their dreams but its so disheartening to see that.I like to see movies where the protagonist against all odds wins in life .Call me a dreamer..but thats what I like to see . |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Tue Dec 20 11:40:02 2005. |
ssanjinika wrote: |
It could be reality that many people dont pursue their dreams but its so disheartening to see that.I like to see movies where the protagonist against all odds wins in life .Call me a dreamer..but thats what I like to see . |
From: great on Tue Dec 20 11:52:43 2005. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: | ||
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From: ssanjinika on Tue Dec 20 12:11:01 2005. |
great wrote: | ||||
vikraman movie |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Tue Dec 20 12:31:14 2005. |