Film/Documentary that made you post here (Started Aug 09)

Topic started by ArulprakasH on Tue Aug 4 11:35:34 2009.

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• From: Wibha on Tue Aug 4 12:37:03 2009.

  The Kite Runner- as good as the book!
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 4 22:05:20 2009.

  16 Vayathinile at Astro Vanavil
  
  More here
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 22:14:57 2009.

  Ah Aah E Eee
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 4 22:16:37 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Ah Aah E Eee

  Saw trailer showing Prabhu more prominently. How was he in it?
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 22:24:55 2009.

  as always, good.
  nowadays he has been promoted from brother of heroine to father of heroine.
  
  AAEE is a feel good film - pure entertainment.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 4 22:29:57 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  as always, good. nowadays he has been promoted from brother of heroine to father of heroine.

  Raghuvaran range-nu sollungga. What to do?
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 22:31:55 2009.

  vijayakumar range would be more appropriate.
  
  he is becoming a good character artiste these days.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 4 22:35:52 2009.

  I meant, Raghuvaran specialises in that friendly brother/dad thingy. Vijaya Kumar is more stereotype dad, usually hell bent on not approving things.
  
  Wish they have something more heavy (no pun) for Prabhu to do. Despite his weight, he did a good job in Billa (nice chemistry with Ajith). Something that befits his range and intellect.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 22:43:56 2009.

  Billa again?
  A pointless film to begin with.
  
  He was very good in SSUE and Ayan.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Aug 4 23:04:38 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Billa again? A pointless film to begin with.

  
  
  u mean the movie as a whole was pointless?
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 23:15:08 2009.

  yeah... including the first one. I dont know why they chose to remake of all films this one.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Aug 4 23:17:32 2009.

  Billa was pointless and A aa E ee is a breezy entertainer
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 4 23:19:02 2009.

  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Aug 4 23:32:17 2009.

  Billa pointless-a........i think Billa or Don(Amitabh) is the first out and out ruthless Don character played by a big mainstream hero......till that time, we used to have Ajith(hindi) in bolly doing these roles and Ashokan in tamil doing the DON roles here.......and Billa story and the concept of "sending this guy to act as that guy" must be one of the most abused concepts in Indian cinema....
  
  one more thing - prabhu in ayan enna avalavu pannittaru other than acting in sivakumar's son's movie? i havent watched ayan - i really would like to know...
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 4 23:32:18 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  yeah... including the first one. I dont know why they chose to remake of all films this one.

  Because (I am repeating) it has a good plot, and the first one, except for Rajini and MSV, was terrible. This one is huge improvement over the original. Business-wise, a good decision seeing that the Hindi original's remake was a hit.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Wed Aug 5 0:04:45 2009.

  Quote:

  Benny Lava, Easy! That was a general comment in response to PR's post, and clearly I wasn't talking about or responding to you there. (I replied specifically to you in the previous post.)

  
  Equi,
  Even if that post wasn't for me, my response is the same.
  
  I can answer for the statements I made, but I needn't answer for the assumptions made about my prejudice while making those statements... Naan solla varadha neenga extrapolate, intrapolate laa paneenga na what can I do!
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Aug 5 0:07:02 2009.

  Rakesh, I guess Billa remake was a hit at the BO. But otherwise, nothing much to write about. The first one has never been raved by RK fans either.
  There are many othe films that are worthy of a remake, is my take.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 5 0:17:33 2009.

  Of course there are others that can be remade. I think had a thread on remakes and sequels.
  
  The wonderful thing about Billa (I mean, the original Don) is the plot. The undercover guy struggling to reestablish himself after his cop-handler died later resurfaced in a brilliant Hong Kong film, Infernal Affair, which was later remade into an Oscar winning film, The Departed in Hollywood.
  
  The plot made it all worthwhile and it was a very entertaining film. Second film of Ajith's I saw on big screen and he was cool .
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Aug 5 0:20:52 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  The plot made it all worthwhile and it was a very entertaining film. Second film of Ajith's I saw on big screen and he was cool .

  
  
  and he too along with surya calls Sivakumar "appa" , if that helps
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 5 2:06:24 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Equi, Even if that post wasn't for me, my response is the same. I can answer for the statements I made, but I needn't answer for the assumptions made about my prejudice while making those statements... Naan solla varadha neenga extrapolate, intrapolate laa paneenga na what can I do!

  
  But I was not talking about you there to begin with! So how could I be talking about your prejudices? That's precisely what I tried to clarify. PR's post brought out the fallacy in the "we are not that" line of argument and I was responding to that in general. The exchange of posts was in a very broad context. It's fair to say my reply to your post triggered this digression, but what I'm saying is we digressed completely. I didn't mean to offend you, and apologise if I have.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Aug 5 3:09:54 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: Equi, Even if that post wasn't for me, my response is the same. I can answer for the statements I made, but I needn't answer for the assumptions made about my prejudice while making those statements... Naan solla varadha neenga extrapolate, intrapolate laa paneenga na what can I do! But I was not talking about you there to begin with! So how could I be talking about your prejudices? That's precisely what I tried to clarify. PR's post brought out the fallacy in the "we are not that" line of argument and I was responding to that in general. The exchange of posts was in a very broad context. It's fair to say my reply to your post triggered this digression, but what I'm saying is we digressed completely. I didn't mean to offend you, and apologise if I have.

  
  
  Srihari,
  
  Unga posts'a vida - unga posts'ku neenga kodukkuRa suya viLakkam athigamAgittE varuthu .. (J/K)
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 5 3:25:14 2009.

  Well, I'm taking it upon myself (!) to clarify things because Benny Lava was reacting to the general direction the discussion took (and none of us were talking about him) and specifically quoted my post.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Aug 5 4:20:34 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Benny Lava wrote: Equi, Even if that post wasn't for me, my response is the same. I can answer for the statements I made, but I needn't answer for the assumptions made about my prejudice while making those statements... Naan solla varadha neenga extrapolate, intrapolate laa paneenga na what can I do! But I was not talking about you there to begin with! So how could I be talking about your prejudices? That's precisely what I tried to clarify. PR's post brought out the fallacy in the "we are not that" line of argument and I was responding to that in general. The exchange of posts was in a very broad context. It's fair to say my reply to your post triggered this digression, but what I'm saying is we digressed completely. I didn't mean to offend you, and apologise if I have. Srihari, Unga posts'a vida - unga posts'ku neenga kodukkuRa suya viLakkam athigamAgittE varuthu .. (J/K)

  
  Innum konja paer itha follow panna vaendi irukku
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 5 7:03:08 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  But I was not talking about you there to begin with! So how could I be talking about your prejudices? That's precisely what I tried to clarify. PR's post brought out the fallacy in the "we are not that" line of argument and I was responding to that in general. The exchange of posts was in a very broad context.

  
  
  
  
  FRIENDS
  
  After kissing Monica, her waiter boyfriend writes a poem titled "The Empty Vase". Phoebe is the only one who 'gets' the poem and alleges that Monica is the one he had referred to as the 'empty vase'. Monica angrily confronts him and he responds
  
  He: "Hey I didn't refer to you as the Empty Vase."
  Monica: ....
  He: I was referring to American women in general
  M: Oh (gets all cuddly)
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 5 7:10:57 2009.

  "appidi paarthA naanum oruthan dhaan 'yA." Seriously.
  
  P.S.: "They are regressive. On the other hand, we take..." 'nu EdhEdhO solli kuzhandhaiyai kiLLiyum vittuttu, ippa... uh... ippadi thirumbavum kiLLi vidRIngaLE... "In fact, what the heck am I doin' in the back. You're the one who should be on brain detail!"
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Aug 5 7:58:14 2009.

  delhi to madras..
  
  another 007 jaishanker adventure.. just that this wasn't any good.. moves at pedestrian pace and no clever black hat villain - cid aapesar dynamism, which has become synonymous with jasihankar's movies..
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 5 8:54:23 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  one more thing - prabhu in ayan enna avalavu pannittaru other than acting in sivakumar's son's movie? i havent watched ayan - i really would like to know...

  
  
  Prabhu did a very good job. sun tv-la pOdumbOdhAvadhu paarunga.
  
  
  (Shrugging off a betrayal with a smile) sari vidu...nee ivvaLo naaL ennai pOttu kudukkaame irundhiyE...adhuvE periya vishayam..
  
  I will resist the temptation to talk about Surya's expression in reacting to this dialogue.
  
  
  orE sorugu pOyiraNum....adhai vittuttu ennamO adikkire..raththam varudhu...
  
  
  
  Showing he is just as angry but is reigning it in for a reason. Plenty of scenes like that.
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 5 12:03:08 2009.

  Actually Prabhu was not that good in Billa even the movie was not that good wrt entertainment but technically very good....
  
  Vishnuvardhan - a very good technician... but bad director .
  
  Prabhu was excellent in Ayan ... even surya was very good in Ayan
  
  am Ajithfan, I wont bother to say that Ayan is better than billa wrt entertainment
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Aug 5 12:09:33 2009.

  Sarna & PR.. .watch Malai Malai & say some words about Prabhu's performance
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 5 12:10:30 2009.

  wt is malai malai ?
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Aug 5 12:13:47 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  wt is malai malai ?

  
  
  naasama pOchu... where are the "funny thread kaavalargal" Sourav & VR ...... please explain what is "mavuntan mavuntan"
  
  punch dialogue in M M;
  
  P1: malai da...
  
  P2: unga oorula nee malai'na .. enga oorula nan malai
  
  
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Wed Aug 5 12:18:28 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  FRIENDS After kissing Monica, her waiter boyfriend writes a poem titled "The Empty Vase". Phoebe is the only one who 'gets' the poem and alleges that Monica is the one he had referred to as the 'empty vase'. Monica angrily confronts him and he responds He: "Hey I didn't refer to you as the Empty Vase." Monica: .... He: I was referring to American women in general M: Oh (gets all cuddly)

  
  
  Pr,
  for quoting appropriately Ungaluku quote panra alavuku indha madhiri scenes ellam nyabagam irukku...
  Whereas all I can do is try to explain in my own lame language.. adhuku mela Equi vandhu naan ungala mean pannalai nu sonna maruka mudiyalai..
  
  Equi.. still not convinced
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 5 13:33:39 2009.

  Benny Lava,
  sAr... nambaNum. nambikkai dhAn vAzhkkai.
  

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Pr, for quoting appropriately

  
  niyAyamA pArththA, avar dhAnga main accusedu! eppadiyO quote paNNi, quote paNNi, thappichukkaRAr.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 5 14:34:35 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  niyAyamA pArththA, avar dhAnga main accusedu! eppadiyO quote paNNi, quote paNNi, thappichukkaRAr.

  
  Naan quote paNradhukkum ennOda nilaippAdukkum sammandham illainnu disclaimerA pOda mudiyum. summA varra sugumAriya yaarnA vONAnnidvaangaLa ?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 6 0:12:30 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Sarna & PR.. .watch Malai Malai & say some words about Prabhu's performance

  
  
  yes, thats what i meant initially .......
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Prabhu did a very good job. sun tv-la pOdumbOdhAvadhu paarunga. (Shrugging off a betrayal with a smile) sari vidu...nee ivvaLo naaL ennai pOttu kudukkaame irundhiyE...adhuvE periya vishayam.. I will resist the temptation to talk about Surya's expression in reacting to this dialogue. orE sorugu pOyiraNum....adhai vittuttu ennamO adikkire..raththam varudhu... Showing he is just as angry but is reigning it in for a reason. Plenty of scenes like that.

  
  
  Prabhu is a excellent actor-ngradhula sandhegame illa........its just that i like him whether or not there is surya in that film
  
  

• From: villan007 on Thu Aug 6 0:22:17 2009.

  ayan la apdi enna entertaining-a irunthichu
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Thu Aug 6 0:23:52 2009.

  Few scenes of Poovizhi vaasalalilae. (K TV, 7:00 AM). One of my favourite films and Fazil's best.
  
  First for the screenplay. It is quite possible that any director would want to start the film with the child's encounter with Sathyaraj and to place the murder of the child's mom in a flashback narrative, there by having a 'what actually happened?' suspense element. But Fazil clearly establishes his setting and starts the movie with a bang. That Karthika is the aunt of the child is a good twist. Second for the direction - neat and clear. When the couple, sent by the villain, posing as the kid's parents, meet Sathyaraj, the first shot is a long shot comprsing all the three in a frame. When they say 'we are the parents', two 'observatory' close ups one for each parent. And - When Sathyaraj and the kid bump into the villain accidentally for the first time, Fazil uses a funeral procession as the setting. Quite interesting.
  
  Raja kitta irukka ketta pazhakkam, oru padaththula yaar evLo vela senjirundhaalum, asaalta appadiyae over take pannidradhu. Excellent BGM. avLo nuNukkam! Sathyaraj leaves the kid in the car and gets into a shop only to find him missing while returning back. Any MD would have gone either for a melodramatic 'chinna chinna rOja poove' for that scene or a BGM that conveys tension, but Raja first conveys the padhattam with heavy loud music and slowly ropes in the 'chinna chinna rOja poove' tune into it. Or the five-second shot, when the villain meets the ironsmith, no dialogues and just the BGM conveys the plan. And every time the 'chinna chinna rOja poove' tune goes in the background, ah, bliss. Raja -
  
  The conversation between Sathyaraj and the ironsmith
  
  SR: un paiyan unna eppadi kooppiduvaan?
  is: chumma illa, convent ku anupren. Daddy nu koopiduvaan.
  (SR beats him up)
  SR: un paiyan unna eppadi kooppiduvaan?
  is: theriyaama sollitten sir, avan enna 'appa' nu dhaan kooppiduvaan!
  
  PS - My mom used to say that i used to muzhichchify when i was like the way Sujitha does in the movie. My sister who was watching it this morning told me that her 6-month-old daughter muzhichchifies like Sujitha. Enga veettu gripe water story!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 6 0:47:24 2009.

  villan007 wrote:

  ayan la apdi enna entertaining-a irunthichu

  
  
  interval, songs-la dhum break - idhellam JK......critical acclaim, BO success - vera enna venum.......watever it was - its a very good career decision for surya
  
  

• From: Wibha on Thu Aug 6 17:13:54 2009.

  Dhaam Dhoom- Liked it
  
  

• From: Mahen on Thu Aug 6 23:14:16 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  villan007 wrote: ayan la apdi enna entertaining-a irunthichu interval, songs-la dhum break - idhellam JK......critical acclaim, BO success - vera enna venum.......watever it was - its a very good career decision for surya

  
  
  Enna irunthalum, ayan namba tammu oda padam..Konjam support pannuga...
  
  Saw ur signature Ithu ellam sagajam maddy..If surya was invited to VTV audio launch, im sure he'll say the same thing about ARR..This is the art of 'ice vekeraning' i would say
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Aug 9 4:16:08 2009.

  Love aaj Kal..very ordinary..no big deal..Reviews ellam aaha ooho sonnage but the it was a typical love story..Tears konjam koda varule..Coming from the director of JWM, im really disappointed with his LAK..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 9 5:01:33 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  Coming from the director of JWM, im really disappointed with his LAK..

  
  
  he mite do "rockstar" with thalaivar which was supposed to be his first project
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 9 7:41:45 2009.

  Lazy Sunday afternoon.... trooped to cinema to watch a film ...
  
  started with a fight (hero introduction)
  and then a kuthu song
  more fights
  brother sentiment
  paper thin romance and songs
  hero moves from native village to chennai; crosses line with goonda leader and that leads to chase, acrobatic stunts and unrealistic flights. In the end hero kills villain and gets the girl
  
  
  
  enga, oru 10 pada title'a sollunga paarppOm
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Aug 9 9:14:23 2009.

  NOV if it is recent flick then thoranai, Vishal traveling too much in most of his films, he travles to another city anga.. anga poi periya aal aavaru. ithan avardo basic concept.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 9 9:18:42 2009.

  only one film? illeppaa, oru periya listE vidalaam.
  idhu ippO Odittirukkira padam.
  and vishal padam paarkkira alavukku naa innum........
  
  

• From: directhit on Sun Aug 9 9:23:14 2009.

  Palunku (Malayalam), 2nd time - though not blessy's best, Mammooty made me sit thru
  
  Passenger (Malayalam) - Srini/Dileep shines. Nice movie amidst the mindless masalas coming out in malayalam
  
  Ocean's 13 - Not bad. liked better than Ocean's 12.
  
  Art of Seduction (Korean) - heroine padam ok, expected more after reading af's recommendation
  
  Cars - Pixar, nuff said
  
  Very Bad Things - thank god I watched this, Panchathanthiram appeals to me even more now. stupid movie!
  
  gosh, am watching too many movies
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 9 9:40:28 2009.

  Sarvam.
  
  Why do people compare this with 21 grams? Bollocks
  
  Quite good. 3sa was much adorable. Arya was as usual.. Architect Neerav Shah is the best in the current gen.
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Aug 9 10:46:00 2009.

  Achamundu2 Wonder why reviews are tookufying average films
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Aug 9 10:47:22 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Lazy Sunday afternoon.... trooped to cinema to watch a film ... started with a fight (hero introduction) and then a kuthu song more fights brother sentiment paper thin romance and songs hero moves from native village to chennai; crosses line with goonda leader and that leads to chase, acrobatic stunts and unrealistic flights. In the end hero kills villain and gets the girl enga, oru 10 pada title'a sollunga paarppOm

  
  
  Malai Malai
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 9 10:52:27 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  Malai Malai

  yeah. two things made me watch - prabhu and pazhani malai.
  
  prabhu is twice the width of arun
  vedika was the only consolation
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Aug 9 10:56:53 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Mahen wrote: Malai Malai yeah. two things made me watch - prabhu and pazhani malai. prabhu is twice the width of arun vedika was the only consolation

  
  
  She should work in better films..Good looks,slim,acting ok but acting in wrong movies...
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun Aug 9 23:39:09 2009.

  Kadhal - Lost count. Film of the decade, absolutely.
  
  Bharath > Surya
  
  Sandhya > (all of post-2000 actresses put together). Simran idhula vara mAttAnga
  
  Joshua Sridhar engEpA irukka
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Aug 9 23:44:04 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Kadhal - Lost count. Film of the decade, absolutely. Bharath > Surya Sandhya > (all of post-2000 actresses put together). Simran idhula vara mAttAnga Joshua Sridhar engEpA irukka

  
  
  I've always felt this film didn't get the due it deserved
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun Aug 9 23:51:38 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  I've always felt this film didn't get the due it deserved

  
  Yes. The film was a huge hit, but did not receive as much critical reception as one would expect. AV gave 50 IIRC. This film deserved 60 and the film was ignored in all major award functions.
  
  One of the very few films I regret having not watched in theaters
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Aug 9 23:55:02 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: I've always felt this film didn't get the due it deserved Yes. The film was a huge hit, but did not receive as much critical reception as one would expect. AV gave 50 IIRC. This film deserved 60 and the film was ignored in all major award functions.

  
  
  One of the reasons I think is this film released very late in the year (Dec 2004) and got ignored in top 10 lists etc. And I feel bad whenever this film gets clubbed with Autograph etc just because they got released in the same year.
  
  

  Nerd wrote:

  One of the very few films I regret having not watched in theaters

  
  
  This is the film I watched the most number of times in theatre
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Aug 10 1:01:11 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  One of the very few films I regret having not watched in theaters

  
  
  first time watched it at home , second watch in big screen immediately the very next day
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Aug 10 1:08:38 2009.

  AravindMano - nice writeup on Raja's BGM, neenga innum neraya ezhuthalaam, abt that( i mean other movies)
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 10 11:53:47 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  Achamundu2 Wonder why reviews are tookufying average films

  
  
  same happens in Hub too.....
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 10 11:57:10 2009.

  part of Rajadhi Raja (Lawrence)
  
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 11 0:00:39 2009.

  In the excitement of Madhavan vs Surya thread, I decided to pay Aytha Ezhuttuu a revisit.
  
  But this time, Barathiraja blew me away. What a performance! I know PR already commented on it, but I will not give full credit to Manirathnam. The man has been in the industry for more than three decades and had acting ambition himself. He brought in newcomer and thought them acting himself. He is already an established actor...but behind the screen.
  
  Wonder why he never pursued a career as character actor.
  
  Mathapadi, Madhavan rocks. Surya's cool. Both are better than their Bollywood counterparts. Climactic fight scene was awesome. But I am still not convinced that - and this is not because of my actor's preference - the brilliant student Michael can beat the street thug Inba up. Come on, Inba has mileage of fighting and killing in him. That too twice ?
  
  Mani
  
  ARR
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Tue Aug 11 0:06:28 2009.

  In a non-celluloid scenario, I'd potently bet on Inba winning Michael every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 11 0:10:18 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  In the excitement of Madhavan vs Surya thread, I decided to pay Aytha Ezhuttuu a revisit.

  
  
  

  Quote:

  Wonder why he never pursued a career as character actor.

  Kallukkul Eeram
  
  When he made the film, he made a promise NOT to act in any of his own films if the film flopped. Which it did. And no one offered him a role till MR in AE.
  
  

  Quote:

  but I will not give full credit to Manirathnam.

  Kallukkul Eeram
  
  All credits goes to MR, well, almost
  
  

  Quote:

  - and this is not because of my actor's preference -

  
  
  

• From: Mahen on Tue Aug 11 1:59:47 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  In the excitement of Madhavan vs Surya thread, I decided to pay Aytha Ezhuttuu a revisit. But this time, Barathiraja blew me away. What a performance! I know PR already commented on it, but I will not give full credit to Manirathnam. The man has been in the industry for more than three decades and had acting ambition himself. He brought in newcomer and thought them acting himself. He is already an established actor...but behind the screen. Wonder why he never pursued a career as character actor. Mathapadi, Madhavan rocks. Surya's cool. Both are better than their Bollywood counterparts. Climactic fight scene was awesome. But I am still not convinced that - and this is not because of my actor's preference - the brilliant student Michael can beat the street thug Inba up. Come on, Inba has mileage of fighting and killing in him. That too twice ? Mani ARR

  
  
  Abishek was better than maddy..He looked more convincing as a street thug..
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Aug 11 2:05:47 2009.

  Much as I despises Apisek Pachan, I'd have to say he was more convincing than Maddy in that role. nadu nadula preparation, measured start-action-cut reactions, not spontaneous, Surya sucks idhellaam pOttukkunga.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 11 2:19:19 2009.

  Ajay Devgan looks a bit long on the tooth to play a student. Surya was apt.
  
  As for Maddy, he looked more streetwise than Apisek (thanks, always wondered how to spell his name ) still had that affluent payyan aura around him. I didn't buy it. A lot were missing. Inba's love hate relationship with his wife was more livelier in AE. And by god, the way they smash each other's face with face...ithu matha kudumba payyanaala seiyya mudiyumaanu santhegam.
  
  Anyway, only Vivek Oberoi was good in Siddarth's role.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Aug 11 2:26:22 2009.

  Mikkolu >>> Inba
  
  Lalan (?) > Inba
  
  Mikkolu >>>>> Ajay Devgan
  
  Vivek Oberoi >> Sidharth
  
  Bharathiraaja >>> Om Puri
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Aug 11 2:31:36 2009.

  CR, ditto. Agree with you line by line. That would be Lallan Singh and Vivek Oberoi is grossly under rated by Bollywood in favour of pussycats like Apisek, Rambeer kappooor, Aamir Khan's marumaan and Kiruthigai.
  
  And in AE vs Yuva, another personal preference that was overturned was Mookherjee outshining Jasmine.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Aug 11 2:32:12 2009.

  aboorva sagotharigal.. :sigh:
  
  suhasini as a cop.. what a terror role.. and we also had the pleasure to witness incredible stunts by her..
  
  this was probably an attempt to remake charlie's angels with three sisters. and it was released even before the release of real adaptation
  
  1 good song (annai ennum aalayam) and that's all.. but i don't even want to know who's idea it was to mix words like mother and temple with 80's techno pop.. complete with urvasi club dance.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Aug 11 2:34:39 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Apisek, Rambeer kappooor, Aamir Khan's marumaan and Kiruthigai.

  
  
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  And in AE vs Yuva, another personal preference that was overturned was Mookherjee outshining Jasmine.

  
  Sonna kovichikkuveenga.. ....
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Aug 11 2:37:34 2009.

  Chummamngaattiyum AE vs Yuva-nu thread vechu, among the main characters - Apisek, devaganam, sitharthu, operoi, mookherjee, jasmine, mikkolu(as CR put it), inbasekar, karumam kappoor - idhula yaaru beshtu-nu oru poll potturalAmA?
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Aug 11 2:40:36 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Plum wrote: Apisek, Rambeer kappooor, Aamir Khan's marumaan and Kiruthigai.

  
  CR, kiruthigai is namma HUB pulavar Prabhu Ram's coinage.
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Plum wrote: And in AE vs Yuva, another personal preference that was overturned was Mookherjee outshining Jasmine. Sonna kovichikkuveenga.. ....

  [/quote]
  
  dhairyama sollunga - naan ennikki kovichikittirukkaen. nammaLLam soonapaana parambarai
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Aug 11 2:51:28 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Chummamngaattiyum AE vs Yuva-nu thread vechu, among the main characters - Apisek, devaganam, sitharthu, operoi, mookherjee, jasmine, mikkolu(as CR put it), inbasekar, karumam kappoor - idhula yaaru beshtu-nu oru poll potturalAmA?

  
  
  Yaaru best-ne eneku solla teriyile aana the worst among all is definitely Esha deol!
  
  Aiyo kadavule! What an acting, and her Tamil pronunciation???? Ithelam Tamil pesa solli yaar azhuntha? Ellathukum meale, rendu version-liyum, inthe munje parke vendira poche.
  
  Inthe ponna parthu piregethan Mani-ke heart attack vandiruku poale.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Aug 11 9:55:12 2009.

  Michael adhuvum 5-6 > inbA
  
  Michael mudhal pight thavira looked like a wimp. Andha jail scene, nenjam ellAm kAdhal-kku munnAdi varra scene sabbaaaaa
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Tue Aug 11 10:22:12 2009.

  Athan ennakkum purila. Michael is by far the worst smug role in Mani's oeuvre, and Surya didn't convince either.
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Aug 11 10:31:27 2009.

  While Surya was quite impressive in AE...confrontation scene with BR etc, the best part of the film was Madhavan and BR.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 11 21:53:00 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Athan ennakkum purila. Michael is by far the worst smug role in Mani's oeuvre, and Surya didn't convince either.

  Required him to smirk in self-adulation throughout the film and he did very well, in fact. Lots of Method preparation involved, I am sure. The only performance of Surya that I liked. And allow me to use that dreaded word in the acting profession...he was so.. natural.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Aug 11 22:58:00 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Michael adhuvum 5-6 > inbA Michael mudhal pight thavira looked like a wimp. Andha jail scene, nenjam ellAm kAdhal-kku munnAdi varra scene sabbaaaaa

  
  
  naanum paarthen, onnum solradhukku illa
  
  if it was dhalabadhi on sunday, it was Nayagan yesterday on KTV.......i had vowed not to watch it with anyone since its very embarassing to sit teary-eyed ......but i broke it yesterday and watched it with parents.......thenpaandi seemayile paatu BGMla varumbodhu eppadi kannula thanni varaama irukkum......saranya's death, kids going to chennai, nizhalgal ravi's death, his daughter refusing to let him see her kid, climax scene are big lumps that are sure going to break you .....honestly, i stopped seeing it as a godfather inspiration since it carries quite a different array of emotions that are so Indian and Mumbai........Mumbai of 80's - evalavu nalla irundhirukku ........quite obviously, this film is No.1 in my books for past 22 yrs with a temporary competition from DevD but Nayagan is unshakeable for me till now......
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Aug 12 0:16:51 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Mikkolu >>> Inba Lalan (?) > Inba Mikkolu >>>>> Ajay Devgan Vivek Oberoi >> Sidharth Bharathiraaja >>> Om Puri

  
  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 0:27:42 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Mikkolu >>> Inba Lalan (?) > Inba Mikkolu >>>>> Ajay Devgan Vivek Oberoi >> Sidharth Bharathiraaja >>> Om Puri

  
  
  
  Inba >*n Michael
  For a very large n.
  The character itself is a very different plane. Michael is not a very impressive character. Madhavan's performance, even though not flawless, was extremely impressive and Surya just didn't have the scope to do as well.
  
  
  Have watched Yuva only in bits and pieces
  
  Siddharth + Trisha > Indhi counterparts
  Thanks largely to Sujatha's writing.
  Indha..cute-mbaingaLE.
  
  BR >> Om Puri
  
  'Sheer'ly better performance
  
  Surya > Devgan
  Major factor being Young vs. still I am a young
  
  Haven't watched the famed Abhishek performance. But I am inclined to think it is likely to be good by his standards but may not have been as good as Madhavan's.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 0:39:38 2009.

  Pr, ninga paarkamale already decide pannitteenga
  
  Siddrth was annoying. The hindi version suffered from lack of rooting. Nevertheless, oberoi was much more tolerable.
  If you minus the author backed factor, inba performance was probably career best for maddy but not the outright winner that it is portrayed to be.
  
  Ippo cr siddart pathi. 4 words pesuvaar
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Aug 12 1:38:01 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Pr, ninga paarkamale already decide pannitteenga Siddrth was annoying.

  
  
  and Thrisha was even more annoying. Enakku therinju Sidharth -Trisha episode'a pArAttuna orE aaL Prabhu mattumthAn (yEthO ennAla mudinchathu ) If at all there was anything that I hated in AE it was these two characters. I even fell a sleep at one point when these two appeared. Could tolerate Isha Deol better.
  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Ippo cr siddart pathi. 4 words pesuvaar

  
  
  Naan adhai aavaludan ethirpAkkiREn
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:11:48 2009.

  Siddharth annoying-A .... I am tempted to go on a psychoanalytic tangent.
  
  I liked him in AE and RDB.Boys...he was as good/bad as the film itself . He was very impressive in the Vishal Bharadwaj short about AIDS. Haven't watched his Telugu attempts.
  
  enna...innum azhagaayittEnA in the railways station
  unnaala dhaan mOsamAna thamizh padam ellAm nallA Oduthu
  
  Oberoi enge idhellAm paNNuradhu.
  
  "marupadi solla koochamA irundhA vEndaam" is likely to be Trisha's best performance ever. RandiriNi was not as good.
  
  I join the Esha Deol MR avaL-ai reNdu padathulayum cast paNnadhu....pachchai paavam.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Aug 12 2:18:07 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  enna...innum azhagaayittEnA in the railways station unnaala dhaan mOsamAna thamizh padam ellAm nallA Oduthu

  
  
  Another one in consulate, when he jumps the queue,
  
  X: Engalai paartha kenaiyan maadhiri theriyudha?
  
  Sid: Sorrynga, andha alavukku pazhakkam illai.
  
  It's mostly about Sujatha's lines, but Siddharth made good use of it. Oberoi
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Wed Aug 12 2:21:07 2009.

  Yep, the (wrongly diagnosed) AIDS patient in VB's "Blood brothers" is his best role so far. I'd also say the reactions against his acting in AE is mostly due to characterization and writing.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:23:24 2009.

  Father: thaNNi pOttiyA ?
  Siddarth: pAkku pOttenE
  
  
  His acting in the scene when Trisha returns (she is good too)
  
  The scene where he is overwhelmed by the students' love for Michael when he feels he is getting disproportionate praise. He did a pretty good job even in absolute terms - forget relative to Oberoi.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 2:24:48 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Father: thaNNi adichiyA ? Siddarth: pAkku pOttenE

  
  Rhyming miss AgudhE... "thaNNi pOttiyA?"
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:27:52 2009.

  Edited.
  Yeah I recall that's what made it attractive.
  
  nitpick ellAm sari....Bala vandhu lambast paNradhukku munnAdi Siddhartharai paththi karuthu sollunga
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed Aug 12 2:27:55 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Siddrth was annoying. The hindi version suffered from lack of rooting. Nevertheless, oberoi was much more tolerable.

  
  
  You gotta be kidding me. Siddarth did a good job in this movie. Vivek was just there with the same expression for almost every scene.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Wed Aug 12 2:29:30 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Father: thaNNi pOttiyA? Siddarth: pAkku pOttenE

  
  
  Indha madhiri ezhudhina, enna pannuvaru Siddarth. One would assume it's one of the grown up kids from Anjali. Smart alec-ness and all.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:31:38 2009.

  Oh it was un-Anjali like I say.
  Anyway I will avoid stressing on the line to minimize risk of edhirkatchikkaaranga focusing disproportionately on it.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 2:33:34 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Yep, the (wrongly diagnosed) AIDS patient in VB's "Blood brothers" is his best role so far. I'd also say the reactions against his acting in AE is mostly due to characterization and writing.

  
  Illainga, lines ellam nalla lines dhaan. Sidharth pesaradhu, expression ellam Illenna Vivek ferfarmans-um pidichirukkadhe..
  Trisha/Kareena character OTOH, not sure... i mean i dont expect any character to play out consistently all the time just as i dont expect characters to be consistent throughout in real life.. but indha character... they just have this "cool" thing going on and out of the blue it turns into something else. Not an entirely convincing transition. OK< things get serious all of a sudden for Sidharth.. still.. ennamo 'natural' a illa
  [On a tangential note, the foundation of Surya-Deva and Sithan-Sakthi are similar]
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 2:34:52 2009.

  By the by, Sidharth speaks like a wimp when he is in "louu mode" or pleading mode. Not very different from Ravi Krishna. Boys la remba pronounced a theriyum. RDB la Dhum a patha vechittu inguttum anguttum poitte iruppaaru padam full-a, adhula enna impressive?
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:38:07 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  iruppaaru padam full-a, adhula enna impressive?

  
  Uncle Tom's cabin scene (ok it was deleted from the main picher)
  The hint of feelings he has for Soha Ali Khan as shown in a few scenes very subtly. The famous last scene with Aamir.
  
  Overall he was very fluent and at ease, mathapadi padamE sumaar dhaan.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:39:20 2009.

  Surya-Deva: kaadhula poo
  Siththan-Sakthi: convincing from Siththan PoV
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Aug 12 2:39:39 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  By the by, Sidharth speaks like a wimp. Not very different from Ravi Krishna. Boys la remba pronounced a theriyum. RDB la Dhum a patha vechittu inguttum anguttum poitte iruppaaru padam full-a, adhula enna impressive?

  
  
  Sorry... :shakes-hand: :walk-off:
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Aug 12 2:40:08 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Overall he was very fluent and at ease, mathapadi padamE sumaar dhaan.

  
  
  Sorry... :shakes-hand: :walk-off:
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 2:42:00 2009.

  Sorry sake hands for the assessment of Siddharth or of the film ?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 2:42:01 2009.

  Thalafanz,
  Inga edhavadhu match nadandhu mudincha?
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Wed Aug 12 2:45:20 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  lines ellam nalla lines dhaan. Sidharth pesaradhu, expression ellam

  
  
  No, The lines came from a smart-alec writer in a young man's shoes. Didn't think much of it. Siddarth's expressions are a bit wimpy at places, yes.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 2:45:38 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  nitpick ellAm sari....Bala vandhu lambast paNradhukku munnAdi Siddhartharai paththi karuthu sollunga

  
  adhAn theLivA niRuthikkittEnE! In short, enakkup perusA avar mEla kOvam Edhum illai.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Aug 12 2:51:00 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Sorry sake hands for the assessment of Siddharth or of the film ?

  
  
  For the film thAn...
  As for the Siddarth & 3sha Vs Oberoi & Kareena - I'm with u. Thamizh combo was much better. I can see what r u trying to say (the cuteness and Chemistry and all)
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 3:10:26 2009.

  Very good @ eq.
  In fact kOvappattA kooda paravaayillaingrEn, I mean I can understand without agreeing (and thereby add datapoint to the psychoanalytic study).
  
  But Oberoi was better-nu sonnA edhirppai therivikka vEndiyadhu kadamai aagiradhu
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 3:56:43 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Siddharth annoying-A .... I am tempted to go on a psychoanalytic tangent. I liked him in AE and RDB.Boys...he was as good/bad as the film itself . He was very impressive in the Vishal Bharadwaj short about AIDS. Haven't watched his Telugu attempts. enna...innum azhagaayittEnA in the railways station unnaala dhaan mOsamAna thamizh padam ellAm nallA Oduthu Oberoi enge idhellAm paNNuradhu. "marupadi solla koochamA irundhA vEndaam" is likely to be Trisha's best performance ever. RandiriNi was not as good. I join the Esha Deol MR avaL-ai reNdu padathulayum cast paNnadhu....pachchai paavam.

  
  
  nIngaLLAm bollywood padam paarthu balageema pOna Koottam . Adhukku dhaan bollywood reject oberoi pudikkalai, bollywood type in tamil-Ana Siddarth pudikkudhu.
  Edhavadhu Seyyanum, Bala!
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 12 4:26:09 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  it was Nayagan yesterday on KTV.......i had vowed not to watch it with anyone since its very embarassing to sit teary-eyed ......but i broke it yesterday and watched it with parents.......thenpaandi seemayile paatu BGMla varumbodhu eppadi kannula thanni varaama irukkum......saranya's death, kids going to chennai, nizhalgal ravi's death, his daughter refusing to let him see her kid, climax scene are big lumps that are sure going to break you .....honestly, i stopped seeing it as a godfather inspiration since it carries quite a different array of emotions that are so Indian and Mumbai........Mumbai of 80's - evalavu nalla irundhirukku ........quite obviously, this film is No.1 in my books for past 22 yrs with a temporary competition from DevD but Nayagan is unshakeable for me till now......

  
  
  Nayagan on TV yesterday.
  neRaya scene vettitAn.. including the famous "dhArAviyila mattum Oduthu.. vAnguROm 5 vAnguROm!" scene.
  
  Raja's 400th movie? Amazing tracks. During Inspector Kelkar's murder, Saranya's intro sequence, Before "Nee oru Kadhal Sangeetham", Just befor Saranya's murder, When opponents are killed (a'la GF I's climax), when Kamal's daughter looks at Janagaraj beating up a guy on the road and so many other scenes it was splendid!
  
  Cinematography is the best ever in Indian cinema. Half of Impala in the foreground with Janagaraj and Kamal facing the sea on the background To complain about Godfather's inpiration is pointless, Yeah.
  
  Easily at the top.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 4:30:49 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Adhukku dhaan bollywood reject oberoi pudikkalai,

  adhukkagavE pudikkaNum 'ndreengaLA ?
  
  KambEni oru padathula sumaarA nadichaaple. Didn't amount to much after that.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Aug 12 5:49:59 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: Adhukku dhaan bollywood reject oberoi pudikkalai, adhukkagavE pudikkaNum 'ndreengaLA ?

  
  
  
  
  Siddarth is a lovely actor with some limitations....... .....bommarilu ellam remba convincing-a irukkum.......RDB is very good too....
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 12 6:00:12 2009.

  Siddarth was weak in AE, and did well in RDB. Boys as a film was a minor annoyance that I have since successfully forgotten. I just remember lots of jumping. That's about it.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 7:27:23 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: Adhukku dhaan bollywood reject oberoi pudikkalai, adhukkagavE pudikkaNum 'ndreengaLA ?

  
  nann jonnadhu effect-nu, nInga solradhu cause-nu
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 7:37:28 2009.

  I too have a history of liking Vivek Oberoi. Started with 'Company,' of course. Liked him in 'Yuva' too. And then I saw 'Shootout at Lokhandwala'! To say he was horrible is an understatement.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 7:59:30 2009.

  equa, nInga suryakku sonna maadhiri, it is not the past but the potential for future.
  
  Yuva-la he was very, very good. I cant quote lines like PR did for AE but he was much less annoying. Sid, I couldnt buy as the casanova at all. Pathetic attempt at "i'm cool".
  The fact that Oberoi's character was actually South Indian(right?) let him down. The writing in Hindi version was neither here nor there given that characterisation. Thats not Oberoi's fault. He was far more convincing at the reactions to Mikkolu's popularity and inspirational effect.
  
  Sid lovers, just watch that Prabhu Deva movie in Telugu. Guaranteed to switch camps in a trice.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Aug 12 8:05:46 2009.

  Oberoi lovers, just watch that AlaipAyuthey movie in Hindi. Guaranteed to switch camps in a trice.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 8:25:52 2009.

  Thalafanz, Oberoi-ai dislike paNNa neraiyave padam irukku Hindi-la. Potential-wise, oru Company-la what he did is well and truly beyond Sid. Yuva vs AE-la karuthu verubaadu vandhaalaum, that could be the tie breaker. Mathabadi, Sid has enough in his portfolio of telugu movies to be disliked as much as Oberoi has in Hindi.
  
  If you take O's worst vs Sid's worst, they are equal
  If you take best vs best, O scores.
  Avg vs Avg - I'd say a tie.
  On the balance, a victory for O.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Aug 12 8:32:44 2009.

  Saar, ippO prachanai Oberoi Vs Sid illai. It's Sid & Trisha Vs Oberoi & Kareena in the movie... I agree both has pluses and minuses (in their career)...
  We (PR included) find the Thamizh version was better. The cuteness & Chemistry between them, dialogues, sync etc etc in Thamizh version.
  Hindhi version-la that was totally missing. Ithai thAn PR-um solla vArrAr-nu nenaikurEn...
  Ithai paththi PR innum viLakkamA solluvAr-nu namburEn...
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 12 8:35:27 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Sid lovers, just watch that Prabhu Deva movie in Telugu. Guaranteed to switch camps in a trice.

  
  
  NuvvosthaanantE nEnodhantana enjoyable movie Sidharth was his acting was pretty natural
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 12 8:40:13 2009.

  Olapaai errr oberai'ya paththi enakku therinjadhu onnudhaan... aish'udan kisukisukkappattavar
  
  But Sidharth is very decent and pretty good actor.... bommaarillu ( the way he delivers dialogue in the climax ), NuvvosthaanantE, aata, KIKK, Oy etc
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Aug 12 8:59:55 2009.

  indru poi nalai vaa - never fails to amaze me
  
  

• From: great on Wed Aug 12 9:01:15 2009.

  Thats a terrific movie, Raiks!!
  
  Patti, sir-ukku laddu kudunga patti
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Aug 12 9:04:51 2009.

  
  
  the 2nd guy (fair one, hindi learner) is especially hilarious.. his expressions.. chanceless.
  
  

• From: great on Wed Aug 12 9:09:40 2009.

  Best movie for repeat viewing
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 9:49:59 2009.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  Ithai paththi PR innum viLakkamA solluvAr-nu namburEn...

  ennatha viLakkuradhu. Oberoi cool, Sid annoying-nA angeyA pEchuvArthai murinju pOchchu.
  
  Saw the SS original's confrontation with father scene in youtube. Orurubai adhellAm senjuruvaaramaam
  
  I am one of those who really wants Siddharth to do a lot more in Tamil. Was pretty excited when his name was up for contention for the prince (?) role in Marmayogi. I have this gnawing doubt that, that's the role Surya is eyeing - so all the right moves etc.
  Let me say loud and clear: it would be more interesting to see Siddharth in that role.
  
  andha role ennAnnu yaarukkumE theriyAdhungradhu vEra vishayam.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 10:13:37 2009.

  Really liked Siddharth in 'Rang De Basanti,' by the way. And actually thought Sharman Joshi was very good.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 10:26:16 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Thalafanz wrote: Ithai paththi PR innum viLakkamA solluvAr-nu namburEn... ennatha viLakkuradhu. Oberoi cool, Sid annoying-nA angeyA pEchuvArthai murinju pOchchu.

  
  
  illaiye, Sid was trying to look cool-nu dhaane sonnaen. Oberoi avLolAm kashta padalai. He didnt try to look super cool, and therefore didnt fail in it. normal-A irundhaar. But again, hindi-la characterisation kozhappadi. Maybe you can say north-born-confused-tamizhan. If so, and even if not so, VO did pretty well. Sid was supposed to be Chennai-BesantNagar-Cool(right?). If so, fail.
  
  Bommarillu-lAm 'south' subject. Adhellam Bollywood-la eduthA vEra maadhiri edukkaNum. Andha context-la Oberoi nallAvE dhaan paNnuvAn.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 10:35:57 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Really liked Siddharth in 'Rang De Basanti,' by the way. And actually thought Sharman Joshi was very good.

  
  Rendume completely disagree. Like i sad, though to be fair to Sid, role appadi. SJ was irritating
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Aug 12 10:37:44 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Really liked Siddharth in 'Rang De Basanti,' by the way. And actually thought Sharman Joshi was very good. Rendume completely disagree. Like i sad, though to be fair to Sid, role appadi. SJ was irritating

  
  habba, to quote anotehr hubber in another thread, light-A nirayudhapANi maadhiri feel paNNindurundhEn. nInga vandhu kaappathiteenga
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 11:03:17 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Really liked Siddharth in 'Rang De Basanti,' by the way. And actually thought Sharman Joshi was very good. Rendume completely disagree. Like i sad, though to be fair to Sid, role appadi. SJ was irritating

  
  padam dakkAlti vElai dhAn, I agree with you there. But I thought some of the performances hit the right notes.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 11:10:04 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: equanimus wrote: Really liked Siddharth in 'Rang De Basanti,' by the way. And actually thought Sharman Joshi was very good. Rendume completely disagree. Like i sad, though to be fair to Sid, role appadi. SJ was irritating padam dakkAlti vElai dhAn, I agree with you there. But I thought some of the performances hit the right notes.

  
  
  aamaam aamaam.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Aug 12 11:22:20 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  equa, nInga suryakku sonna maadhiri, it is not the past but the potential for future.

  
  True, Plum. That's why I (consciously) spoke of those performances in past tense. It's near impossible to arrive at any consensus based on them.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Aug 12 12:31:47 2009.

  great wrote:

  Thats a terrific movie, Raiks!! Patti, sir-ukku laddu kudunga patti

  
  
  yendappa.. nee veetula saptuttu vandhuruppiye
  
  -----
  
  Venkuta.. quoting Jeyakanthan before giving love letter to Radhika...
  
  ---
  
  K Baghyaraj ......
  
  pazhaya panchayat thirumbhavum aarambippoam...
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Wed Aug 12 13:41:02 2009.

  Subjectivity
  
  Mani has extracted the "absolute best" as well. This and this, or this?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Aug 12 13:57:11 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Subjectivity Mani has extracted the "absolute best" as well. This and this, or this?

  
  
  
  
  and this
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk
  
  "absolute best out of mohan lal"...may be..as adoor has once told that maniratnam has extracted the best out of mohan lal.
  
  best of kamal?????....NO!!!
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 14:35:55 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk

  
  IR competes for honours in this clip.
  Look at the vareity used in the scene where he meets his daughter
  
  

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  best of kamal?????....NO!!!

  Hmm.. I wouldn't be so emphatic
  
  

• From: app_engine on Wed Aug 12 14:41:05 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk IR competes for honours in this clip.

  
  
  Absolutely! However, I'll give equal credits to Mani on BGM too, for moving the original tune for 'then pANdi cheemaiyilE' to 'nilA adhu vAnaththu mElE' and getting a new melody (which is used thru out the movie as BGM).
  
  Raja needs people like MR to get the best out of him!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 15:55:55 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  Absolutely! However, I'll give equal credits to Mani on BGM too, for moving the original tune for 'then pANdi cheemaiyilE' to 'nilA adhu vAnaththu mElE' and getting a new melody (which is used thru out the movie as BGM). Raja needs people like MR to get the best out of him!

  
  ?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 15:58:48 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk IR competes for honours in this clip. Look at the vareity used in the scene where he meets his daughter

  
  IR doesn't "compete" in this scene. He just walks away with the prize here, no contest, start to finish, note for note. Relegates Kamal to the 2nd hero in this scene. Love the cinematography as well.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496RlEZFjro
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 12 16:11:47 2009.

  neenga oru musical adhunaala appidi solla mudiyudhu.
  It is so difficult to see beyond Kamal's acting in these scenes. Just brilliant. Repeating MHO that this is his best performance.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Wed Aug 12 16:25:37 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  app_engine wrote: moving the original tune for 'then pANdi cheemaiyilE' to 'nilA adhu vAnaththu mElE' ?

  
  
  Isn't it a very old news?
  
  That the first tune by IR for the lullaby was rejected by MR and he came up with the current famous one.
  
  The news also stated that the rejected tune was reused for the 'nilA adhu vAnaththu mElE' song.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 12 16:27:40 2009.

  Oh, old news-a?
  Nandringa!
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Aug 12 21:22:06 2009.

  Quote:

  நெலா அது வானத்து மேலே பலானது ஓடத்து மேலே வந்தாடுது தேடுது ஒண்ண ஒய்யா ஓய் அட ஒய்யா ஓய்

  
  
  read the above line as ஆராரோ ஆரிராரோ
  
  now you know why this tune was first offered for the then paandi scene.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Aug 12 22:41:20 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  It is so difficult to see beyond Kamal's acting in these scenes. Just brilliant. Repeating MHO that this is his best performance.

  
  
  agree to it character by character including blank spaces in between ........yea, i have never noticed BGM in these scenes and i dont intend to
  
  and yea, it has to be kamal's best as far as me too....hey ram???
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Aug 12 23:08:10 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: best of kamal?????....NO!!! Hmm.. I wouldn't be so emphatic

  
  
  For me Guna,MMKR performances are better than Nayagan performance
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Aug 12 23:24:07 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  neenga oru musical adhunaala appidi solla mudiyudhu. It is so difficult to see beyond Kamal's acting in these scenes. Just brilliant. Repeating MHO that this is his best performance.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Aug 12 23:26:02 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: neenga oru musical adhunaala appidi solla mudiyudhu. It is so difficult to see beyond Kamal's acting in these scenes. Just brilliant. Repeating MHO that this is his best performance.

  
  
  But atleast in the scene (the link given by CR),IR stands out.The total scene was carried by IR.
  
  Another scene in nayagan where both kamal and IR competed is the scene where kamal meets his daughter in her home.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 12 23:39:32 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: best of kamal?????....NO!!! Hmm.. I wouldn't be so emphatic For me Guna,MMKR performances are better than Nayagan performance

  Agree. Nayagan's is one of the best onscreen performances in TFI, I agree. But it just reminded me of the "other" performances that inspired Mani. Guna's soulful rendering and MMKR's brilliant maneuvering have been unmatched since.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Aug 12 23:42:03 2009.

  school girl who is into prostitution having exams the next day ellam konjam heavy-aana samacharaangal......that scene is very good writing by Mani......in Nayagan, i feel, Mani and kamal in tandem subdued IR completely.....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Aug 12 23:45:01 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  school girl who is into prostitution having exams the next day ellam konjam heavy-aana samacharaangal......that scene is very good writing by Mani......in Nayagan, i feel, Mani and kamal in tandem subdued IR completely.....

  
  
  Thenpandi cheemayile "impact" therinjuma subdued nu soldreenga?
  
  I accept that in most other scenes...but definitely in that particular scene,its IR....
  
  Ofcourse while watching movie we will just notice the actor not the music behind.But what I meant was that the impact of the scene was mainly due to IR's BGM...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Aug 12 23:55:24 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Prabhu Ram wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: best of kamal?????....NO!!! Hmm.. I wouldn't be so emphatic For me Guna,MMKR performances are better than Nayagan performance Agree. Nayagan's is one of the best onscreen performances in TFI, I agree. But it just reminded me of the "other" performances that inspired Mani. Guna's soulful rendering and MMKR's brilliant maneuvering have been unmatched since.

  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ZLZesrvnc
  
  This 10 min clip makes sure that guna beats Nayagan easily.
  
  at the end of the clip raja emerges with "Unnai naanariven"
  
  what ya combo!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 13 0:06:59 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Thenpandi cheemayile "impact" therinjuma subdued nu soldreenga?

  
  
  ofcourse, at all points in the movie, i felt acting or writing stood first......i mean, i could never see the IR BGM as i see it on other IR movies and other mani movies......
  
  

  Quote:

  Ofcourse while watching movie we will just notice the actor not the music behind.But what I meant was that the impact of the scene was mainly due to IR's BGM...

  
  
  u mean to say, i saw a maniratnam in the corner of the bed room writing the dialogues when i say "writing"........
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 13 0:11:25 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Quote: Ofcourse while watching movie we will just notice the actor not the music behind.But what I meant was that the impact of the scene was mainly due to IR's BGM... u mean to say, i saw a maniratnam in the corner of the bed room writing the dialogues when i say "writing"........

  
  
  That was to PR,I quoted with ur post.
  
  he told he cannot look beyonbd kamals acting in those scenes.
  
  If ana ctor acts too good and the BGM gels with the scene,we just notice the performance...but the impact in this scene was created by the music not the acting IMO
  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 13 0:12:55 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Thenpandi cheemayile "impact" therinjuma subdued nu soldreenga? ofcourse, at all points in the movie, i felt acting or writing stood first......i mean, i could never see the IR BGM as i see it on other IR movies and other mani movies......

  
  
  Thats what i said...BGM shouldnot be felt separately right?
  
  What i told was that the impact created by that scene must be sttributed to IR..we notied it separately while watching the movie or not!
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Thu Aug 13 0:26:15 2009.

  I've thought about it, and Nayakan is his best thus far. I expect him to reach a higher scale in his coming performances. (despite a 50 year career, he'd tell 'you haven't seen nothing yet'. And it should be that way).
  
  The range of emotions in Guna is extraordinary, and there are other great performances too. For example, "Pushpak" is a minimalistic rendition, and he achieves near-perfection. I love his performance in Mahanadhi, MMKR, Kurudhipunal (much underrated, and in many ways, surpassed Om Puri, except of course the sense of betrayal and 'guilt' has been greatly subdued in the remake)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 13 0:29:01 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  but the impact in this scene was created by the music not the acting IMO:)

  
  
  illainga, neenga solradhu mokka scenes, mokka padathukku, mokka actorskku ok but Nayagan was extraordinary writing and ferfarmans.......i felt BGM just complemented with this and did not dominate like other raaja scores like the below one....
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kA1ZYE2Fc&feature=related
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Thu Aug 13 0:29:29 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Agree. Nayagan's is one of the best onscreen performances in TFI, I agree. But it just reminded me of the "other" performances that inspired Mani. Guna's soulful rendering and MMKR's brilliant maneuvering have been unmatched since.

  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 13 0:32:21 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: but the impact in this scene was created by the music not the acting IMO:) illainga, neenga solradhu mokka scenes, mokka padathukku, mokka actorskku ok but Nayagan was extraordinary writing and ferfarmans.......i felt BGM just complemented with this and did not dominate like other raaja scores like the below one.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kA1ZYE2Fc&feature=related

  
  
  sari freeya viduvom...the scene quoted by CR is completely a raajangam IMO!
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Thu Aug 13 0:38:27 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk IR competes for honours in this clip. Look at the vareity used in the scene where he meets his daughter IR doesn't "compete" in this scene. He just walks away with the prize here, no contest, start to finish, note for note. Relegates Kamal to the 2nd hero in this scene. Love the cinematography as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496RlEZFjro

  
  
  CR, neenga keezha post panni irukra Scene'ku kooda ipdi sollalaam, but the scene that PR posted had so many things going for it, it would be unfair to hand over the trophy to IR alone. As a thumb rule, BGM and dialogue fight for space. The first scene had more dialogue in it.
  
  Kamal had to deliver, IR needn't to a great extent and when the scene succeeds you know where the laurels rest.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 0:38:49 2009.

  Two clashing protagonits. One of them marries a soul close to the other. They drift and dropping into meet his protege, the other is shocked to see the relationship of the first to his protege. Idhellam Mani more than once eduthurukkaar. Nayagan BGM effect marubadi avarukku kediachudhA? illai.
  
  Nayagan-la IR BGM eduthuttu vera yaaraiyavadhu compose paNNa solli kELunga. ungalukk E theriyum. Mud slingingku oru limit illaiyA?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 13 0:40:02 2009.

  Benny,
  
  CR was talking only abt the scene that he was quoting
  
  not the scene quoted by others.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Thu Aug 13 0:46:53 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Benny, CR was talking only abt the scene that he was quoting not the scene quoted by others.

  
  
  Ohhhh.. like that aa ..
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Thu Aug 13 0:51:57 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  kid-glove wrote: Subjectivity Mani has extracted the "absolute best" as well. This and this, or this? and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t963z59MPYk "absolute best out of mohan lal"...may be..as adoor has once told that maniratnam has extracted the best out of mohan lal.

  
  
  It's the absolute best of Mohanlal I've seen. Not sure it would be surpassed by his other great performances. Anandan is perfection. Lal's rendition is layered and evocative.
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 2:10:36 2009.

  Plum, mud siling-A ? First prize illai, second prize-nu sonnadhukkA
  
  Simple-A sollavA...while that scene would have been significantly less impactful than what it was without IR, it would have been impossible without Kamal. Kamal was the centerpiece and shouldered that scene.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 2:31:38 2009.

  ada ungaLa illainga. nInga sonnadhilla objection illa. IR contribution-E nayagan-la illainu solravangalukku or third to Mani and Kamal-nu solravangalukku. IR illaina, no nayagan, no Manirathnam. Maybe, Idhayakovil could have done without IR. But IR eduthutta adhula oNNumE kedayadhu. Pagal Nilavu was greatly boosted by IR. Mouna Raagam, would have been moderately succesful. Nayagan without IR is as unimaginable as nayagan without Kamal. uNarOO maybe - even there IR stamped his authority with Theeram ThEDi. Dont remember the BGM, not much of it was needed anyway I guess.
  
  As I said, there is a parallel to Nayagan's Karthika-Kamal meeting at Nasser's house scene. Recent-A. Adhai paarthuttu nIngaLE mudiviu paNNikonga.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 13 2:35:16 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum, mud siling-A ? First prize illai, second prize-nu sonnadhukkA Simple-A sollavA...while that scene would have been significantly less impactful than what it was without IR, it would have been impossible without Kamal. Kamal was the centerpiece and shouldered that scene.

  
  
  i feel the other way round for that scene....I could imagine some other good actors performaing well in that scene...but noone other than ilayaraja could have done this job...the music caried the scene completely(cinematography too).
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 2:36:54 2009.

  The Guru scene which you refer too has Abh...apisek pachan. ennaththa compare paNradhu.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Thu Aug 13 2:38:08 2009.

  OK plum.. let us request the producers to remove everyone's name from credits in all MR's pre-92 movie.. IR peru mattum pottu padatha ottalaam
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 2:48:42 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  i feel the other way round for that scene....I could imagine some other good actors performaing well in that scene...but noone other than ilayaraja could have done this job...the music caried the scene completely(cinematography too).

  
  
  Good old agree-to-disagree
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 2:51:53 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  OK plum.. let us request the producers to remove everyone's name from credits in all MR's pre-92 movie.. IR peru mattum pottu padatha ottalaam

  
  
  It is a dicey exercise to see a movie in parts and highlight one aspect, I agree. Nevertheless, IR's contribution is such an integral part that without him, Mani's movies would be meaningless. Pointless even.
  This could be true of R Sundararajan too but who cares, really? Catch my point?
  
  Is it possible for Harris Jayaraj to score Alai Paayudhae? Eminently possible. He has done similar stuff all around. Maybe, not commercially the success of AP but in terms of making adequate music for the movie? This probably speaks more of AP as a movie more than Rahman as a composer, before you pounce on me.
  
  I cant think of any contemporary or even successors of IR who can score Nayagan. Only IR fossible, as CR would spell it.
  
  I grant the songs of Mouna Raagam can be done by someone else(in the sense that adequately express the emotions not replicate the musical excellence) but the BGM?
  
  Similarly, I cant think of Uyirae without Rahman. I said before in this forum that IR couldnt have done a Uyirae for mani.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 2:53:31 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: i feel the other way round for that scene....I could imagine some other good actors performaing well in that scene...but noone other than ilayaraja could have done this job...the music caried the scene completely(cinematography too). Good old agree-to-disagree

  
  
  This goes beyond subjective. Name one composer who could have adequately scored for that scene.
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 3:09:48 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: i feel the other way round for that scene....I could imagine some other good actors performaing well in that scene...but noone other than ilayaraja could have done this job...the music caried the scene completely(cinematography too). Good old agree-to-disagree This goes beyond subjective. Name one composer who could have adequately scored for that scene.

  
  
  If you name one actor I will also name one composer.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 3:13:45 2009.

  ha! I'll be a bit ingenuous here - I believe a certain old man was still around then. In my opinion, he might have comfortably played the old version of Nayakkar, thought that might kill the point of Kamal acting in that movie
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 13 3:19:17 2009.

  Nayagan staring NT, composed by MSV. Hmm....
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 3:29:43 2009.

  sellAdhu sellAdhu
  
  Anyway the point I am making is even larger, the nature of BGM is such that it essentially plays second fiddle- no pun intended - to good acting. Only when there is limited performance potential or substantial emotional distance that BGM swings in for a bigger role.
  
  This is particularly visible when the senti gear goes down and the game is all thrills. BGM is noticeably on tops there: silambu saNdai thEvar magan.
  
  Naan ellAm music-ai paththi ivvaLavu dhooram ezhudhuradhE konjam over. adakki vaasikkarEn - again no pun intended.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 3:34:25 2009.

  IMO, BGM should support a scene and never over-shadow it. Its role is complementary not dominant. Thus when its overly-spoken about, it defeats its original purpose.
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 3:39:22 2009.

  innikku panjAyathu kaLai kattum pOla irukkE
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 3:45:44 2009.

  I am only talking about the roles - doesnt matter whether the music score is by MSV, IR, ARR or Yuvan.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 13 3:47:10 2009.

  Our audience are spoiled bit. We liked to be told what to emote at certain scenes and our composer's job is just that.
  
  Back in silent days, there used to be a pianist hammering and plunking the grand old instrument to accompany the black and white flicker.
  
  In Hollywood you still get films without background score like Dog Days Afternoon. Maybe that's why PR didn't like it all that much.
  
  But in TFI, it became inseparable. In the words of the great poet: ondrillamal mattondru uruvaaguma
  ithil uyarvendrum thazhvendrum pirivaaguma
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 3:51:04 2009.

  >digr.>
  DDA - BGM was the least of issues
  It just wasn't interesting enough.
  I am trying to see if it was widely found interesting because it was somehow pioneering.
  <<
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 13 3:53:42 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Only when there is limited performance potential or substantial emotional distance that BGM swings in for a bigger role

  
  
  eppadi paa ......IR has given BGMs that simply outgrows writing/acting(idhayathhai thirudaadhe solely lives on IR BGM) but not in Nayagan - its not that IR didnt do enough, but kamal and mani did more than enough.....
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 3:55:39 2009.

  BGM is certainly important - see that opening cene in Mozhi to realise it.
  My point is that it should complement the scene instead of becoming the focal point of discussion. Its like discussing the plate instead of your meal.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Aug 13 4:25:10 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  CR, neenga keezha post panni irukra Scene'ku kooda ipdi sollalaam, but the scene that PR posted had so many things going for it, it would be unfair to hand over the trophy to IR alone. As a thumb rule, BGM and dialogue fight for space. The first scene had more dialogue in it. Kamal had to deliver, IR needn't to a great extent and when the scene succeeds you know where the laurels rest.

  
  Oh yeah, i meant the link that i posted! PR post panna scene la Thalaivar/Mani take the honours
  
  

• From: Sarna on Thu Aug 13 4:46:26 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Plum, mud siling-A ? First prize illai, second prize-nu sonnadhukkA Simple-A sollavA...while that scene would have been significantly less impactful than what it was without IR, it would have been impossible without Kamal. Kamal was the centerpiece and shouldered that scene. i feel the other way round for that scene....I could imagine some other good actors performaing well in that scene...but noone other than ilayaraja could have done this job...the music caried the scene completely(cinematography too).

  
  
  replace Kamal with Prabhu
  
  PS : Prabhu cant be a equal replacement for ALL KAMAL MOVIES and vice-versa also
  
  

• From: Sarna on Thu Aug 13 4:49:16 2009.

  ONLY Prabhu can replace Kamal in the context of more-or-less equal acting.... that too in selected movies
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Aug 13 4:56:32 2009.

  BGM itself is a gimmicky prop ('BGM is a gimmicky prop *only* :yuck: ]. Silent movies-oda vestige a innum ongi irukku...
  
  Scene la nigazhun nigazhvugal, actors' performances, plot, letting deep intense 'emotions' highlight themsleves, without the music dominating these - on the one hand
  
  Punctuating, accentuating, enhancing the sense of drama, turmoil, comedy/humor, naughtiness, sensuality, erotica, louu, romance, etc - on the other hand
  
  Idhu ellame enga eppo enna seyyanumo azhaga azhuthama Raasaappu senju pottuttaar!
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Aug 13 5:01:01 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I cant think of any contemporary or even successors of IR who can score Nayagan. Only IR fossible, as CR would spell it. I grant the songs of Mouna Raagam can be done by someone else(in the sense that adequately express the emotions not replicate the musical excellence) but the BGM? Similarly, I cant think of Uyirae without Rahman. I said before in this forum that IR couldnt have done a Uyirae for mani.

  
  
  I beg to differ on the point that no contemporary or even successors of IR can score Nayagan. They could and would have, but definitely not in the way IR did. Given a chance, ARR would have given his own version to Then Pandi Cheemayile, and so would HR or YSR or many others.
  
  But the fact remains that we have only heard IR in Nayagan and yes, to say that he left a big impression in the film is an understatement. Nevertheless, I don't understand the need to compare IR and his contemporaries as far as Nayagan or any other movies for that matter are concerned. How do you compare the work of art anyway?
  
  

• From: Sarna on Thu Aug 13 5:10:57 2009.

  AudazJay wrote:

  Plum wrote: I cant think of any contemporary or even successors of IR who can score Nayagan. Only IR fossible, as CR would spell it. I grant the songs of Mouna Raagam can be done by someone else(in the sense that adequately express the emotions not replicate the musical excellence) but the BGM? Similarly, I cant think of Uyirae without Rahman. I said before in this forum that IR couldnt have done a Uyirae for mani. I beg to differ on the point that no contemporary or even successors of IR can score Nayagan. They could and would have, but definitely not in the way IR did. Given a chance, ARR would have given his own version to Then Pandi Cheemayile, and so would HR or YSR or many others. But the fact remains that we have only heard IR in Nayagan and yes, to say that he left a big impression in the film is an understatement. Nevertheless, I don't understand the need to compare IR and his contemporaries as far as Nayagan or any other movies for that matter are concerned. How do you compare the work of art anyway?

  
  
  nadippa compare pannurOm why not music ?
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Aug 13 5:37:19 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  nadippa compare pannurOm why not music ?

  
  
  My question is, how do you do that?
  
  Can you tell for certain that no one except Kamal could have donned the role of Velu Nayakar? If you ask me, I believe they could. But whether they would be able to handle the role as well as Kamal did is totally a different subject altogether.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 8:42:18 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  IMO, BGM should support a scene and never over-shadow it. Its role is complementary not dominant. Thus when its overly-spoken about, it defeats its original purpose.

  
  
  appo songs and lyrics-kum role-E illai
  
  "kaNNin maNi pOla...kalandhu kidandhOmadA...mannum kadal vaanum...maraikka mudiyAdhadA..pirikka mudiyadhadA"-nu 4 line-la whole padathiyum capture paNNina Kannadasan oru budukku-nu solla vEndi irukkum.
  
  Cinema is a composite of multiple elements - any one of them, when executed at its highest state, contributes to good cinema. It is to be celebrated. Be it the totally unnecessary( to the movie) songs of Kannadasan, or the overly stated BGM of IR. Though people say "I'm criticising all composers' bgm:", usually since we all know who is the king of BGM, it is criticism of IR. Solravanga, dhairyama urakka sollalaam.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 8:45:43 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Only when there is limited performance potential or substantial emotional distance that BGM swings in for a bigger role eppadi paa ......IR has given BGMs that simply outgrows writing/acting(idhayathhai thirudaadhe solely lives on IR BGM) but not in Nayagan - its not that IR didnt do enough, but kamal and mani did more than enough.....

  
  
  Well, what makes you guys think that BGM is absolutely not required for emotional scenes? Or that it stands out?
  How many of you noticed the BGM when you first watched Nayagan or Mouna Raagam. For me it was there, but I didnt notice it but if subtly underlined the emotion. I had said this yesterday in the context of Johnny, too in my rajni post, though it was just an add on point there.
  
  In Nayagan, you dont notice the BGM but it is there, and subtly expressing the emotions along with Kamal in that scene. There is no way you can say that it was second to Kamal. Without the BGM, the effect would have been less.
  In my opinion, Raja thuNai illAma, narambai sundi izhukka Sivaji Ganesan-Ala mattum dhaan mudiyum - that is my personal experience, at the least.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Aug 13 8:53:21 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  In my opinion, Raja thuNai illAma, narambai sundi izhukka Sivaji Ganesan-Ala mattum dhaan mudiyum - that is my personal experience, at the least.

  
  Of course, I wouldn't say that. Thalaivan seyyadhadha!
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 8:56:28 2009.

  CR, nInga apdi sollittA, apram unga life-E waste-nu artham . naan sollalAm.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 8:56:43 2009.

  plum, for you IR may be king of BGM, for me he is another. better yes, but not necessarily the best.
  so, please dont judge me using your standards.
  
  I have always maintained that BGM should complement the scene and not seek attention.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 9:02:42 2009.

  BGM seeking attention-ngaradhe unga imagination - ngarEn.
  Either cometent or incompetent bgm avLo dhaan. Ipdi padi padiyA pOna, we can question every single aspect of cinema. Rules are blah blah - see Prabhu Ram's signature
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 9:06:30 2009.

  the fact that there is such a lengthy discussion on BGM made me make that statement.
  as far as I am concerned if the BGM is not outlandish or lacking, it has served its purpose.
  easyaa vida vENdiya vishayaththa kamal perusaa IR perusaa'nu oru samaacharamaa eduththundu..
  
  fan'aa irunga, veriyaraa aagaadheenga.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Aug 13 9:08:24 2009.

  ippo enna naan katti porandu sattai pocket-ayA kizhichuttaen?
  
  

• From: complicateur on Thu Aug 13 9:17:36 2009.

  NOV,
  The necessary and sufficient condition you impose on BGM is the argument of someone who does not wish to delve within oneself. If one cannot assign the emotional impact of a certain scene to any one aspect, then that aspect is quite unnecessary - proven by the fact that it probably finds no place in one's memory. It must either augment or be the mainstay. If you are an aural person it'll be the BGM, if you are a visual person it will be mise'-en-scene.... To insist that good BGM is inobtrusive you are alienating a section that puts a lot of store by what they hear.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 9:22:59 2009.

  thanks for your opinion and I quite disagree with you.
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Aug 13 9:26:37 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  NOV, The necessary and sufficient condition you impose on BGM is the argument of someone who does not wish to delve within oneself. If one cannot assign the emotional impact of a certain scene to any one aspect, then that aspect is quite unnecessary - proven by the fact that it probably finds no place in one's memory. It must either augment or be the mainstay. If you are an aural person it'll be the BGM, if you are a visual person it will be mise'-en-scene.... To insist that good BGM is inobtrusive you are alienating a section that puts a lot of store by what they hear.

  
  
  Agree.
  The Arthur Wilson light leak anecdote by Jeyamohan is one hilarious example.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Aug 13 13:08:16 2009.

  Saw Vaamanan for some 1/2 hr.
  
  Ippo dinner'kaga kadaikku vandhaen. Thirumbavum poyi continue pannanum
  
  enna solla: Santhanam
  
  Overall Not bad, I can say Good compared to other films in recent times
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Aug 13 13:12:13 2009.

  Finally got hold of Raja Paarvai DVD. Will try to watch this week end
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Thu Aug 13 13:13:49 2009.

  Mosabaer?
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 13 21:50:26 2009.

  Puthu Pettai. at Astro Vellithirai
  
  Uneven. A feeling that it could have been better, in fact a great film. But unsymphatetic leading character ruined it. No way you'd root for him. There is something greasy and anti-antihero about him. It's not a bad guy you love to hate. It's a good guy you hate to love.
  
  Having said that, I thought Dhanush did his best. He is certainly lost himself in his role, that was dictated by the writer/director. The sliminess is not his fault. I have raised his profile from "Actor To Keep An Eye On", to "One of the Actors I have Hope in".
  
  I missed the credit scene. Who did the music? Again, could have been great. Instead we get some uneven baloney with lots of samples (one was used by ARR in Jumpalakka - En Swasa Katre).
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 23:15:56 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  I have raised his profile from "Actor To Keep An Eye On", to "One of the Actors I have Hope in".

  
  and that you recognise PP and not PEAS.
  
  

  Quote:

  I missed the credit scene. Who did the music?

  
  werent you able to guess from the BGM ( ) and the songs? Its Yuvan.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 13 23:25:29 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: I have raised his profile from "Actor To Keep An Eye On", to "One of the Actors I have Hope in". and that you recognise PP and not PEAS.

  Haven't seen PEAS. But may like his performance there too. I even liked him in YNM.
  
  

  NOV wrote:

  Quote: I missed the credit scene. Who did the music? werent you able to guess from the BGM ( ) and the songs? Its Yuvan.

  Yen? He's definitely more original than HJ, but I still don't recognize his signature or whatever. But I can recognise Harris' stuff for wrong reasons
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 13 23:30:48 2009.

  Rakesh, if you like PEAS, then I will sever all ties with you.
  
  You make it sound like I dont like Yuvan. As a matter of fact I like him very much and he is very good in BGM. But nowadays he's leaning very much to hip hop so that it has become his trade mark.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 13 23:34:43 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Rakesh, if you like PEAS, then I will sever all ties with you.

  *keeps fingers crossed* Please like PEAS. Please like it. Come on.....
  

  NOV wrote:

  You make it sound like I dont like Yuvan.

  Did I? I thought I made it sound like a cow in last stage of pregnancy.
  
  

  NOV wrote:

  As a matter of fact I like him very much and he is very good in BGM. But nowadays he's leaning very much to hip hop so that it has become his trade mark.

  Yeah, cut off that remix stuff. And this movie had too many samples. Like he got lazy or something.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 14 0:04:25 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Puthu Pettai. at Astro Vellithirai Uneven. A feeling that it could have been better, in fact a great film. But unsymphatetic leading character ruined it. No way you'd root for him. There is something greasy and anti-antihero about him. It's not a bad guy you love to hate. It's a good guy you hate to love.

  
  Agree with you Groucho. But one of the good things about this film it doesn't try to let the viewers sympathise with protagonist... Instead it just shows a normal guy who has his own share of negatives and because of this, the characterization was pretty consistent. Compared with 7G, where he tries to show a standard "Street Collector" in good light, it was unpalatable.
  
  In one scene Ravikrishna says "epdi indha madhiri ponnungala sakadaiya thEdi poi vizharaanga"
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 14 0:10:49 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: OK plum.. let us request the producers to remove everyone's name from credits in all MR's pre-92 movie.. IR peru mattum pottu padatha ottalaam It is a dicey exercise to see a movie in parts and highlight one aspect, I agree. Nevertheless, IR's contribution is such an integral part that without him, Mani's movies would be meaningless. Pointless even. This could be true of R Sundararajan too but who cares, really? Catch my point? Is it possible for Harris Jayaraj to score Alai Paayudhae? Eminently possible. He has done similar stuff all around. Maybe, not commercially the success of AP but in terms of making adequate music for the movie? This probably speaks more of AP as a movie more than Rahman as a composer, before you pounce on me. I cant think of any contemporary or even successors of IR who can score Nayagan. Only IR fossible, as CR would spell it. I grant the songs of Mouna Raagam can be done by someone else(in the sense that adequately express the emotions not replicate the musical excellence) but the BGM? Similarly, I cant think of Uyirae without Rahman. I said before in this forum that IR couldnt have done a Uyirae for mani.

  
  
  Plum, Thanks for all your speculations
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Aug 14 0:25:51 2009.

  Benny, one day you"ll learn to distinguish "opinion" and "speculation" as words. Adhu varaikkum speculation-nE vechukonga.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 14 0:28:38 2009.

  Eagerly waiting for the enlightenment
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Aug 14 0:33:00 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Eagerly waiting for the enlightenment

  
  
  you could try books like "how to reach enlightment in 30 nanoseconds" or "anger management" movie
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Aug 14 0:58:22 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Mosabaer?

  
  
  Not in Mosabaer.. Got that in Pondicherry TicTac.. One of the famous one where usually i get hold of Such DVD's. Hey Ram kooda romba naal thaedi kadaisila anga thaan vaanginane
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Fri Aug 14 1:33:05 2009.

  Oh okay. I've been to that place.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Aug 14 1:51:27 2009.

  Love Aaj Kal - brilliant.......i havent seen better dialogues than this movie's
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 1:57:20 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Nevertheless, IR's contribution is such an integral part that without him, Mani's movies would be meaningless. Pointless even. Similarly, I cant think of Uyirae without Rahman. I said before in this forum that IR couldnt have done a Uyirae for mani.

  
  
  Disagree with both statements. Music adds to a film.
  The writer is primary. The director/actors are secondary. All else is nuance.
  
  Compli's point of each to his own is kinda the final word here. I am just compelled to use an absolutist tone as a response to Plum adopting it
  
  

• From: Wibha on Fri Aug 14 2:02:53 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Love Aaj Kal - brilliant.......i havent seen better dialogues than this movie's

  
  
  
  
  I totally hated this movie
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 2:03:26 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: Puthu Pettai. at Astro Vellithirai Uneven. A feeling that it could have been better, in fact a great film. But unsymphatetic leading character ruined it. No way you'd root for him. There is something greasy and anti-antihero about him. It's not a bad guy you love to hate. It's a good guy you hate to love. Agree with you Groucho. But one of the good things about this film it doesn't try to let the viewers sympathise with protagonist... Instead it just shows a normal guy who has his own share of negatives and because of this, the characterization was pretty consistent. Compared with 7G, where he tries to show a standard "Street Collector" in good light, it was unpalatable.

  
  PudhuppEttai's twists and turns were uninteresting, the attempt to explain everything (KumarE oorai vittu pORaan..ellArum oorukku ticket pOdunga dA) was annoying, the unreal scenes for effect (aruvA training outside the pub) were confusing and appalling).
  The parts with the father were and the slum dwelling were great (akkAvum roughAna party dhaan , kadavuL irukkuraan kumaaru ). But overall I found PudhuppEttai quite ordinary. That's why I am not looking forward to AO.
  
  Atleast 7G was not pretentious.
  
  

  Benny Lava wrote:

  In one scene Ravikrishna says "epdi indha madhiri ponnungala sakadaiya thEdi poi vizharaanga"

  
  Applause for that line nearly brought down the house...which was literally a possibilty in the decrepit Devibala.
  
  

• From: Sarna on Fri Aug 14 2:04:33 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Love Aaj Kal - brilliant.

  
  
  Saif-ali-khan pachchak pachchak'nu Deepika'va kiss adippaarE ... andha padamaa ?
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Aug 14 2:13:37 2009.

  Pr, adhan sollittenE opinionnu. Absolutist-A dhaan solla mudiyum.
  niNga literary illiyA writer-ai thaan kondaaduveenga. Naanga musical
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Aug 14 2:15:41 2009.

  pr,
  
  ella padathukkum adhu othu varumaa?
  
  In westerns like GB AND U or once upon a time in the westlam..ennio morricone-oda themes evlo % filmku add pannirukku?How would the film have looked without that style of music?
  
  sila padangalukku music is equally important as actors and directors are.
  
  nethu solla marandhuten...A to D
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Aug 14 2:19:25 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  niNga literary illiyA writer-ai thaan kondaaduveenga. Naanga musical

  
  I think using 'literal' is more appropriate here. PR is a literal.
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Aug 14 2:21:40 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Plum wrote: niNga literary illiyA writer-ai thaan kondaaduveenga. Naanga musical I think using 'literal' is more appropriate here. PR is a literal.

  
  
  
  PR -
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 14 2:26:06 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Benny, one day you"ll learn to distinguish "opinion" and "speculation" as words. Adhu varaikkum speculation-nE vechukonga.

  
  
  Plum, indha oru post romba mandaya arikkudhu.. adheppadi'nga nadakadhadha pathi karuthu therivucha adhu opinion aagum? enakku therinja varaikum adha naanga speculation'nu thaan solvom.. as mentioned earlier, eagerly awaiting enlgihtenment
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 2:31:16 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  ella padathukkum adhu othu varumaa? In westerns like GB AND U or once upon a time in the westlam..ennio morricone-oda themes evlo % filmku add pannirukku?How would the film have looked without that style of music?

  
  
  Haven't seen the said movies pudikkaadhunnu oru preconceived notion.
  
  But let me take KillBill - the one movie where I have noticed music being outstanding and 'perfect' for the scenes. For a moment let us assyme that it was by one MD and not a boquet chosen by QT. But even there I am inclined to give QT the credit for the movie. The scenes, the writing, the stylistics and so on. Now doubt the music added to the film a lot. Without the said music the film would have been significantly lesser, but nowhere near as good as it would have been without QT.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 2:32:35 2009.

  Syntax of Gounderspeak, equa correctA purinju vachirukkAr
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Aug 14 2:37:22 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: ella padathukkum adhu othu varumaa? In westerns like GB AND U or once upon a time in the westlam..ennio morricone-oda themes evlo % filmku add pannirukku?How would the film have looked without that style of music? Haven't seen the said movies pudikkaadhunnu oru preconceived notion. But let me take KillBill - the one movie where I have noticed music being outstanding and 'perfect' for the scenes. For a moment let us assyme that it was by one MD and not a boquet chosen by QT. But even there I am inclined to give QT the credit for the movie. The scenes, the writing, the stylistics and so on. Now doubt the music added to the film a lot. Without the said music the film would have been significantly lesser, but nowhere near as good as it would have been without QT.

  
  
  kill bill is a nice example...but yeah..QT is the hero there obviously for the style on screen.
  
  not watched GB and U etc ?...watch it..kandippa bore adikaadhu... entertainment guaranteed.
  
  

• From: Mahen on Fri Aug 14 2:39:21 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Love Aaj Kal - brilliant.......i havent seen better dialogues than this movie's I totally hated this movie

  
  
  Me too..Same old stuff..The whole concept enaku pudikale..Flirting with ur ex and rekindle all that lottu losuku peelings etc...Suddenly hero realize that shes the one after so long etc..Reminds me of so many American lovuu films..The 2nd track is not relevant at all i felt...Critics have very kind to this film
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 2:42:39 2009.

  Yeah must try atleast for keeping abreast with film history
  
  Western naalE indha train restroom kadhavule classification pOtturuppAingaLE, adhu dhaan nyAbagaththukku varudhu.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Aug 14 2:43:58 2009.

  PR, Leone padam innum paarkala? Whoa. Okay, granted I must warn you that its more style than substance. It's flashy, in your face (literally), and an alternate look at the (Hollywood) romanticized old western frontier with European sensibilities. I can't say the same about Once Upon A Time In America though.
  
  One film critic at that time said, The Good, The Bad & The Ugly represented the cinematography, the dubbing and the violence
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Fri Aug 14 2:46:29 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  NOV, The necessary and sufficient condition you impose on BGM is the argument of someone who does not wish to delve within oneself. If one cannot assign the emotional impact of a certain scene to any one aspect, then that aspect is quite unnecessary - proven by the fact that it probably finds no place in one's memory. It must either augment or be the mainstay. If you are an aural person it'll be the BGM, if you are a visual person it will be mise'-en-scene.... To insist that good BGM is inobtrusive you are alienating a section that puts a lot of store by what they hear.

  
  
  
  I Agree.
  
  
  I don’t think BGM should play second fiddle in any scene. Every artist would tend to give his 100% to a scene. (Adhula evLo effective-ngradhu is a different matter all together). At times, the scene might be not 100% effective, but that would not stop a MD or an Editor from giving their 100%. There might be instances when BGM overtakes a scene because of this. (The vice-versa also completely possible).
  
  We have seen a lot of movies where the script doesn’t deserve a spectacular performance. We used terms like ‘so-and-so actor thookki niRuththufied a scene/film’. YennA, they do their job completely. That’s applicable to BGM as well appadi nu naan ninaikren.
  
  As we are discussing Raja’s BGM here I would add this to my argument. Raja tries to ‘write’ a whole scene thru his BGM. I tend to think so because of many statements made by our directors. (Mani Ratnam while describing how Raja works on the BGM (watches the scene once, writes notes and that’s it. No revisting), Balu Mahendra goes to the extent of saying that he won’t make films if Raja stops making music & Bala saying that Raja’s BGM rectified/hides the mistakes he made while making a film. The last two directors are well known Raja loyalists, but we cannot overlook their statement. I understand they *are* loyalists only because of the work he does while scoring BGM) .
  
  So when Raja works with directors like Mani Ratnam, every scene has so many impressive inputs and we just take back home whichever stays in our mind. For me, the scene where Kamal meets Saranya for the first time, it’s always Raja-vs-PC (when Kamal walks to get a proper glimpse of the girl, camera slowly walks and so the BGM). But ultimately Raja’s input for that scene stayed in my mind.
  
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Fri Aug 14 2:46:55 2009.

  Ennio morricone - Deivam.
  
  Psycho bath tub sequence was meant to be without a score, but Herrmann stirred couple of notes to hitch, rest is history.
  
  As a novice editor of football clips, I'd vouch the soundtrack makes all the difference for producing an intended effect, and garner attention.
  
  Idhu eppadi irukkunu sollunga, literals and musicals. Vartta.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 2:55:09 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  PR, Leone padam innum paarkala? Whoa. Okay, granted I must warn you that its more style than substance.

  paakkaNum.
  Style substance- long debate.
  I didn't like reservoir dogs, I found Pulp Fiction fairly interesting once ...that's all, saw a Deathproof clip on youtube and am glad I didn't watch it, I want inglorious.. to flop.
  
  But I can't help adoring KillBill..... naan oru kuzhappathula vaazhndhukittu irukkEn.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Aug 14 3:00:35 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: PR, Leone padam innum paarkala? Whoa. Okay, granted I must warn you that its more style than substance. paakkaNum. Style substance- long debate. I didn't like reservoir dogs, I found Pulp Fiction fairly interesting once ...that's all, saw a Deathproof clip on youtube and am glad I didn't watch it, I want inglorious.. to flop. But I can't help adoring KillBill..... naan oru kuzhappathula vaazhndhukittu irukkEn.

  
  
  apdiye ditto!
  
  I liked pulp fiction and Killbill
  
  reservoir dogs Okthan...
  
  regarding deathprrof - u give it a try..u should have the conversation between the girls ...which would have put u off ...the movie gets interesting as it goes..
  
  Watch GB and U - U would like it definitely...
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Fri Aug 14 3:00:50 2009.

  But Seriously, I don't think QT could surpass KB if he ventured into that sort of motley again. He peaked with KB stylistically. Like in the Guardian interview, I'm afraid he'd not progress if he does stuff for sake of breaking rules. People tend to get bored. They want him doing stuff of his forte, rather than making expansive cinematic experiments.
  
  I liked Death Proof by the way.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Aug 14 3:03:06 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  Same old stuff..The whole concept enaku pudikale..Flirting with ur ex and rekindle all that lottu losuku peelings etc...Suddenly hero realize that shes the one after so long etc..Reminds me of so many American lovuu films..The 2nd track is not relevant at all i felt...Critics have very kind to this film

  
  
  well i'm not a critic ......yes u r right, same story again and again but the way he justified it with dialogues is very good.....i mean, did you realise the character was saying everything that comes in the mind - how tough it is to write down what "all" your mind can say and that too - mind of a character in a story not urs.....idhellam paarattanum paa
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 14 4:38:17 2009.

  AravindMano wrote:

  complicateur wrote: NOV, The necessary and sufficient condition you impose on BGM is the argument of someone who does not wish to delve within oneself. If one cannot assign the emotional impact of a certain scene to any one aspect, then that aspect is quite unnecessary - proven by the fact that it probably finds no place in one's memory. It must either augment or be the mainstay. If you are an aural person it'll be the BGM, if you are a visual person it will be mise'-en-scene.... To insist that good BGM is inobtrusive you are alienating a section that puts a lot of store by what they hear. I Agree. I don’t think BGM should play second fiddle in any scene. Every artist would tend to give his 100% to a scene. (Adhula evLo effective-ngradhu is a different matter all together). At times, the scene might be not 100% effective, but that would not stop a MD or an Editor from giving their 100%. There might be instances when BGM overtakes a scene because of this. (The vice-versa also completely possible). We have seen a lot of movies where the script doesn’t deserve a spectacular performance. We used terms like ‘so-and-so actor thookki niRuththufied a scene/film’. YennA, they do their job completely. That’s applicable to BGM as well appadi nu naan ninaikren. As we are discussing Raja’s BGM here I would add this to my argument. Raja tries to ‘write’ a whole scene thru his BGM. I tend to think so because of many statements made by our directors. (Mani Ratnam while describing how Raja works on the BGM (watches the scene once, writes notes and that’s it. No revisting), Balu Mahendra goes to the extent of saying that he won’t make films if Raja stops making music & Bala saying that Raja’s BGM rectified/hides the mistakes he made while making a film. The last two directors are well known Raja loyalists, but we cannot overlook their statement. I understand they *are* loyalists only because of the work he does while scoring BGM) . So when Raja works with directors like Mani Ratnam, every scene has so many impressive inputs and we just take back home whichever stays in our mind. For me, the scene where Kamal meets Saranya for the first time, it’s always Raja-vs-PC (when Kamal walks to get a proper glimpse of the girl, camera slowly walks and so the BGM). But ultimately Raja’s input for that scene stayed in my mind.

  
  
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 14 4:42:33 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Disagree with both statements. Music adds to a film. The writer is primary. The director/actors are secondary. All else is nuance.

  
  Geetanjali/Idhayathai Thirudaadhe
  
  

• From: Mahen on Fri Aug 14 4:44:39 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Mahen wrote: Same old stuff..The whole concept enaku pudikale..Flirting with ur ex and rekindle all that lottu losuku peelings etc...Suddenly hero realize that shes the one after so long etc..Reminds me of so many American lovuu films..The 2nd track is not relevant at all i felt...Critics have very kind to this film well i'm not a critic ......yes u r right, same story again and again but the way he justified it with dialogues is very good.....i mean, did you realise the character was saying everything that comes in the mind - how tough it is to write down what "all" your mind can say and that too - mind of a character in a story not urs.....idhellam paarattanum paa

  
  
  Enaku hindi varathu..Solely rely on subtitles
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 14 4:51:07 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Disagree with both statements. Music adds to a film. The writer is primary. The director/actors are secondary. All else is nuance. Geetanjali/Idhayathai Thirudaadhe

  
  This will get into the old soundtrack v album debate.
  
  

• From: ArulprakasH on Fri Aug 14 5:56:39 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Watch GB and U - U would like it definitely...

  
  
  Vivs.. is GB and U the title?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Aug 14 5:57:11 2009.

  ArulprakasH wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Watch GB and U - U would like it definitely... Vivs.. is GB and U the title?

  
  
  Good Bad and the Ugly
  
  

• From: ArulprakasH on Fri Aug 14 5:59:46 2009.

  K Got it.. Thanks
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Fri Aug 14 22:33:06 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Disagree with both statements. Music adds to a film. The writer is primary. The director/actors are secondary. All else is nuance. Geetanjali/Idhayathai Thirudaadhe

  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kA1ZYE2Fc
  
  PR Intha clip la 5:10 lendu end of the clip varaikum paathuttu sollunga, BGM and Acting lifts up the scene completely... Ithellam writer kittenthu varathu improvise panna thaan varaum...
  
  I have never experienced fantastic BGM complemented by a brilliant acting performance... IMHO this is Kamal's Best!!!
  Ovvoru vaati paakum pothu pul arikum....
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sat Aug 15 1:03:57 2009.

  kaminey - Brilliant movie ... bit review here
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 3:08:43 2009.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  PR Intha clip la 5:10 lendu end of the clip varaikum paathuttu sollunga, BGM and Acting lifts up the scene completely... Ithellam writer kittenthu varathu improvise panna thaan varaum...

  
  When I mean writer I mean the one who 'conceives' the scene. The actor/director determines if the execution is convincing. Music adds to the experience immensely.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 3:32:35 2009.

  I dont think anyone here says that music doesn't elevate a scene. Evlo thaan attagasama irundhaalum, music vandhu Boost Bournvita va thaan irukka mudiyum, adhu illana padam illanu solradhellam overu.. neengalaam solradha hyperbole'a venumna consider pannikalaam
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 3:38:58 2009.

  if we know that music elevates the experience, it is pointless to settle for a lesser experience. I guess it boils down to having experienced music writing the scene. Well, you hve to internalize ir for that. I can understand if bgm is not importnat because you haven't experienced it.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 3:51:23 2009.

  Plum, who wants to settle for a lesser experience or who is saying that BGM is not important?
  
  There is a difference between saying that BGM is important and saying that BGM is everything.. Hope it is understood.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 4:04:49 2009.

  The point is the same. Bgm is not required vs bgm is important. If you say writer is more important, I disagree. Equally important- I'll take that.
  
  The attempt to place music below writing is what I protest.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 4:08:50 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  The point is the same. Bgm is not required vs bgm is important. If you say writer is more important, I disagree. Equally important- I'll take that. The attempt to place music below writing is what I protest.

  
  
  Even on mute, the scene will work admittedly with lesser impact.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 4:14:26 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  I dont think anyone here says that music doesn't elevate a scene. Evlo thaan attagasama irundhaalum, music vandhu Boost Bournvita va thaan irukka mudiyum, adhu illana padam illanu solradhellam overu.. neengalaam solradha hyperbole'a venumna consider pannikalaam

  
  
  Its about how much every person adds to the scene - regarding the impact its going to create on the viewer.
  
  Ir sometimes adds more than the other persons who worked for that scene.
  
  Why should we care about the starting point of the scene,who made the scene etc..
  
  "andha scene enakku yEn pidichudhu?" - as a fan avlothan yosikanum...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 4:15:18 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: The point is the same. Bgm is not required vs bgm is important. If you say writer is more important, I disagree. Equally important- I'll take that. The attempt to place music below writing is what I protest. Even on mute, the scene will work admittedly with lesser impact.

  
  
  Even with screensavers the music could create some impact...infact more impact than a "muted" scene could ever create
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 4:18:59 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: PR Intha clip la 5:10 lendu end of the clip varaikum paathuttu sollunga, BGM and Acting lifts up the scene completely... Ithellam writer kittenthu varathu improvise panna thaan varaum... When I mean writer I mean the one who 'conceives' the scene. The actor/director determines if the execution is convincing. Music adds to the experience immensely.

  
  
  Why should we think on those lines?
  
  As a fan "andha scene edhanaala enakku romba pidichudhu?" - avlothan kekanum...avlo kekarathuthaan sari...
  
  writer scene eludhaati composer music potrukka mudiyumaa...apdingradhu thevaye illa..
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 4:25:41 2009.

  Vivs, point well made. Idhukku mela enakku solla therila.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 4:48:22 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: I dont think anyone here says that music doesn't elevate a scene. Evlo thaan attagasama irundhaalum, music vandhu Boost Bournvita va thaan irukka mudiyum, adhu illana padam illanu solradhellam overu.. neengalaam solradha hyperbole'a venumna consider pannikalaam Its about how much every person adds to the scene - regarding the impact its going to create on the viewer. Ir sometimes adds more than the other persons who worked for that scene. Why should we care about the starting point of the scene,who made the scene etc.. "andha scene enakku yEn pidichudhu?" - as a fan avlothan yosikanum...

  Ada ada.. enna oru nyana udhayam adha thaan naangalum solla varom
  
  Apram edhuku saar IR illati andha scene'ey illanu solreenga.. Andha scene enakku pidichirukunu sollitu poga vendiyadhu thaaney... ippo vandhu double belti adikreenga!
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 4:53:58 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Why should we think on those lines? As a fan "andha scene edhanaala enakku romba pidichudhu?" - avlothan kekanum...avlo kekarathuthaan sari... writer scene eludhaati composer music potrukka mudiyumaa...apdingradhu thevaye illa..

  Saar, oru motion picture porutha varaikum video enbathu 1 madhiri, BGM nradhu adhuku pakkathula add panra 0 madhiri.. rendum serndhu 10 aagalaam.. value ingirees.. but video porutha varaikum adhu thanithu ninna kooda adhuku oru value irukku.. aana audio mattum vechukutta net value zero thaan kedaikum.
  
  Oru audio album'a eduthukiteengana, indha concept a apdiye ulta pannikonga...
  thai mannay vanakkam audio = 1
  thai manney vanakkam audio with visuals = 10
  
  MVHO
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 4:54:43 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Benny Lava wrote: I dont think anyone here says that music doesn't elevate a scene. Evlo thaan attagasama irundhaalum, music vandhu Boost Bournvita va thaan irukka mudiyum, adhu illana padam illanu solradhellam overu.. neengalaam solradha hyperbole'a venumna consider pannikalaam Its about how much every person adds to the scene - regarding the impact its going to create on the viewer. Ir sometimes adds more than the other persons who worked for that scene. Why should we care about the starting point of the scene,who made the scene etc.. "andha scene enakku yEn pidichudhu?" - as a fan avlothan yosikanum... Ada ada.. enna oru nyana udhayam adha thaan naangalum solla varom Apram edhuku saar IR illati andha scene'ey illanu solreenga.. Andha scene enakku pidichirukunu sollitu poga vendiyadhu thaaney... ippo vandhu double belti adikreenga!

  
  
  You have misunderstood.
  
  That was a reply to "music is just an accesory...bournvita boost etc" argument.
  
  Why should we think who was important in the making of a scene...what made me to like the scene thana mukkyam..apdinen
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 4:57:09 2009.

  Quote:

  Why should we think who was important in the making of a scene...what made me to like the scene thana mukkyam..apdinen

  
  I eggsactly agree with you. That is what we are trying to say whereas Plum wants to say that the we should keep in mind the fact that Music director is the only thing in a scene. Now where did this point get lost
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 4:59:32 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Why should we think on those lines? As a fan "andha scene edhanaala enakku romba pidichudhu?" - avlothan kekanum...avlo kekarathuthaan sari... writer scene eludhaati composer music potrukka mudiyumaa...apdingradhu thevaye illa.. Saar, oru motion picture porutha varaikum video enbathu 1 madhiri, BGM nradhu adhuku pakkathula add panra 0 madhiri.. rendum serndhu 10 aagalaam.. value ingirees.. but video porutha varaikum adhu thanithu ninna kooda adhuku oru value irukku.. aana audio mattum vechukutta net value zero thaan kedaikum. Oru audio album'a eduthukiteengana, indha concept a apdiye ulta pannikonga... thai mannay vanakkam audio = 1 thai manney vanakkam audio with visuals = 10 MVHO

  
  
  adhu yen "idhu visual medium..so visuals important".."idhu music album..so audio important" apdinu pirichu paakureenga?
  
  endha mediuma irundha enna...audience edhirpaakuradhu feelings..adha yaaru provide pandra..thats important..
  
  Simple question to u
  
  1.Script writer illama padam edukka mudiyadha?...
  
  2.Director illama padam edukka mudiyadha?
  
  
  By your argument cinematographer is the most important person in cinema..because a movie can be made even without actors
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:01:54 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Quote: Why should we think who was important in the making of a scene...what made me to like the scene thana mukkyam..apdinen I eggsactly agree with you. That is what we are trying to say whereas Plum wants to say that the we should keep in mind the fact that Music director is the only thing in a scene. Now where did this point get lost

  
  
  NO..He said that Music director is as important as a script writer and director when we consider the movie as a wholesome output(atleast for movies where music played an huge part like mouna ragam).
  
  Accessory kedayadhu!
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:05:42 2009.

  Quote:

  adhu yen "idhu visual medium..so visuals important".."idhu music album..so audio important" apdinu pirichu paakureenga?

  Sorry'nga.. engaluku apidi pazhagiduchu
  
  

  Quote:

  Simple question to u 1.Script writer illama padam edukka mudiyadha?... 2.Director illama padam edukka mudiyadha?

  
  
  There is always a brain behind the visuals, sometimes it could be even an editor who just assembles video montages and presents them. Even if there is no script writer, someone conceptualizes the content of the video. Same for a director. In all the cases, the burden of impressing with the visual medium lies with the corresponding creative heads. You can wish to call them a director or you may not.. doesn't make a difference.
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:12:32 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  NO..He said that Music director is as important as a script writer and director when we consider the movie as a wholesome output(atleast for movies where music played an huge part like mouna ragam). Accessory kedayadhu!

  Appidiya! I thought I read something along the lines of "there is nothing in the film apart from IR" etcetra etcetra..
  
  
  Ennanga neenga konja konjama kOtta thandi enga katchikula vandhu, nee indha kathchi illa andha katchi nu virala kamikreenga Neenga solla varadha thaan naangalum solrom... script writer, director ellarum important nu...
  
  Being an accessory or not is a subjective phenomenon. As you can see there have been powerful movies without music.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:22:10 2009.

  hallo,
  
  accessory,boost,bournvita nu sonnadhu neenga...we said its not.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:25:16 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Being an accessory or not is a subjective phenomenon. As you can see there have been powerful movies without music.

  
  
  namma ippo andha movies pathi pesalaye
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:34:41 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  hallo, accessory,boost,bournvita nu sonnadhu neenga...we said its not.

  
  
  Boost nu first use pannadhu Plum, accessory nu first imply pannadhu PR.. In either case I completely agree with the terms... Now what?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:38:03 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: hallo, accessory,boost,bournvita nu sonnadhu neenga...we said its not. Boost nu first use pannadhu Plum, accessory nu first imply pannadhu PR.. In either case I completely agree with the terms... Now what?

  
  
  nadaya katta vendiyathuthaan...vera enna?
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:38:19 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: Being an accessory or not is a subjective phenomenon. As you can see there have been powerful movies without music. namma ippo andha movies pathi pesalaye

  I didnt know that we are only discussing about a subset of movies. Even if we did, it doesn't nullify my statement. Right?
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:38:43 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: hallo, accessory,boost,bournvita nu sonnadhu neenga...we said its not. Boost nu first use pannadhu Plum, accessory nu first imply pannadhu PR.. In either case I completely agree with the terms... Now what? nadaya katta vendiyathuthaan...vera enna?

  
  
  Yes please... waiting.....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:40:29 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Benny Lava wrote: Being an accessory or not is a subjective phenomenon. As you can see there have been powerful movies without music. namma ippo andha movies pathi pesalaye I didnt know that we are only discussing about a subset of movies. Even if we did, it doesn't nullify my statement. Right?

  
  
  People were talking about mouna ragam,agni natchiram etc
  
  Nullify ur statement?..opiniona epdi nullify panna mudiyum?
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:41:02 2009.

  Opinion must be the most abused term in hub
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 5:42:02 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Opinion must be the most abused term in hub

  
  
  
  
  p.s:opinions illaina inga vandhu edhukku kutha vekkurom..
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 5:43:27 2009.

  
  
  Seri.. apram vera thread pakkam poga vendiyadhu thaan
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Aug 15 8:44:53 2009.

  indhiya tholaikaatchiyil mudhal mudhalaaga..... Something Something Unakkum Enakkum
  
  - Trisha's best ever film
  
  - Jeyam Ravi, always entertaining
  
  - Prabhu, you are meant for greater things.
  
  - Devi SriPrasad
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 9:09:04 2009.

  Vivs, en saarbA patient-A vaadhittadhukku nandri.
  Benny, I clearly told that I am fighting the notion that writing is enough and music is just add-on. Vera epdi solradhunnu theriyalai.
  Whatever, I think the reservation behind admitting the role of bgm is generally that ir is generaly acknowledged as king of bgm. You can argue the vice versa for our camp
  (With honorable exceptions ofcourse)
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 9:32:41 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Even on mute, the scene will work admittedly with lesser impact. Even with screensavers the music could create some impact...infact more impact than a "muted" scene could ever create

  Of course. But I thought you (ungaLai sollalai podhuva solREn) bent on emphasizing the difference between universally appealing album and contextually appealing soundtrack.
  
  So apart from readily agreeing with you, I will note this post for future reference.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 9:35:34 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: When I mean writer I mean the one who 'conceives' the scene. The actor/director determines if the execution is convincing. Music adds to the experience immensely. Why should we think on those lines? As a fan "andha scene edhanaala enakku romba pidichudhu?" - avlothan kekanum...avlo kekarathuthaan sari... writer scene eludhaati composer music potrukka mudiyumaa...apdingradhu thevaye illa..

  
  
  hello...neenga dhaanE composer illaattA - adhuvum kuRippA IR illAttA -sila padamE work aayirukkadhunnu sonneenga. I was just replying within the same framework.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Aug 15 9:42:16 2009.

  PR wrote:

  hello...neenga dhaanE composer illaattA - adhuvum kuRippA IR illAttA -sila padamE work aayirukkadhunnu sonneenga. I was just replying within the same framework.

  
  
  naanga output base panni sonnom...the final product as a movie..
  
  neenga...modhalla script writer eludhi..apram director direct panni..apram hero nadikuraru..
  
  composer add pandrarunu sonneenga...
  
  cinema as a final product (output),IR illaati velaikayikadhunnu sonnom..U r talking abt the input given by others
  
  adhu veru idhu veru
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Aug 15 9:44:27 2009.

  Watching Unakkum Enakkum.
  
  nalla entertainer
  
  3sha Ravi'ya kitchen'la thittura scene
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Aug 15 9:50:44 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  indhiya tholaikaatchiyil mudhal mudhalaaga..... Something Something Unakkum Enakkum

  viraajan wrote:

  Watching Unakkum Enakkum.

  oh, ingE mudinjiruchu... about an hour ago.
  
  
  

  Quote:

  3sha Ravi'ya kitchen'la thittura scene

  plenty of hillarious scenes. santhanam was on a role here.
  sachu was also hillarious.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 9:57:23 2009.

  PR, andha nilaippaadula. Maatram illai. I am saying that if a movie's quality is enhanced by bgm, then that elevated quality is to be aspired for not just desired. Bera yaarukku puriyattaalum, ungalukku puriyumnu nenaikkaren. Some movies like apoorva raagangal would be pointless without kannadasan's lyerics for me - and that's an aspect that can be considered even more peripheral than. Bgm. That doesn't mean that apoorv r without those songs is an equally good movie. A significant something is detracted.lyricke apdinnna...
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 10:33:44 2009.

  Hmm...compli sonna each to his own dhaan.
  
  MD-kaaga ennikkum naan padam paathadhu kidayAdhu (except Rahman's initial years when his association tended to be an indicator of the movie's quality - here again to be noted it was never for the music itself). iniyum paarkkappOvadhum kidayAdhu. naan ellAm super pAttA irundhaalum, DVD-la paakkumbOdhu forward paNravan... even Agni natchathram - where the freshness/novelty/energy of the visuals nearly () match the songs. To me, BGM is very potent tool at the disposal of the filmmaker (who is ? )
  
  Accessory
  The term is in no way demeaning. Goundamani is an accesory in Karagattakkaran.
  
  Re. Viv's question about cinematographer...
  aamaaam aamaam..
  There is an ongoing debate on whether the cinematographer needs to be created as the co-author of the film. The author equivalent in films is the director (prevailing situ, not my opinion). As he is the one who translates the words to celluloid. But quite literally it is the cinematographer who realizes it. Usual project manager- programmer credit-sharing issue dhaan. And it is not a trivial debate mind you. Serious minds in world cinema are arguing about this. Particularly in France pOnRa mElai naadugaL. Orson Welles shared credit page with the cinematographer in Citizen Kane. Unprecedented.
  
  Idhula indha debate-aiyum kOrthu vittOmnA innum grand-A irukkum . Final credit page, roova note-la ellA languages irukkura maadhiri nerukkadiyA irukkum
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 10:40:21 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I am saying that if a movie's quality is enhanced by bgm, then that elevated quality is to be aspired for not just desired.

  There are so many things that will enhance the quality of a film. Are we to say that everything that will enhance is to be 'aspired for' and not simply 'desired'. Big ask.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 11:19:25 2009.

  Epdi solradhu. Nayagan without IR would be a *significantly* lesser film. IllaingareengaLA?
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 11:49:48 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Epdi solradhu. Nayagan without IR would be a *significantly* lesser film. IllaingareengaLA?

  
  Maybe. But Nayagan without Kamal would be a script neatly spiral bound and accumulating dust.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 12:54:56 2009.

  Bagat sing kapoorlaam great performance kudukkarache, kamal maadhiri nadikka innoruthan illaamalA povaan
  I mean, bgat sing kapoor vechu ellaam nalla padam, great performance edukkarangaLAmE...appo whts so special about extra ordinary acting of kamal calibre that it will be missed
  (Pakka vedhandavaadhamnu theriyaradhu!)
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 12:55:38 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  PR, andha nilaippaadula. Maatram illai. I am saying that if a movie's quality is enhanced by bgm, then that elevated quality is to be aspired for not just desired. Bera yaarukku puriyattaalum, ungalukku puriyumnu nenaikkaren. Some movies like apoorva raagangal would be pointless without kannadasan's lyerics for me - and that's an aspect that can be considered even more peripheral than. Bgm. That doesn't mean that apoorv r without those songs is an equally good movie. A significant something is detracted.lyricke apdinnna...

  
  
  
  

  Puriyadha jadam wrote:

  Plum, who wants to settle for a lesser experience or who is saying that BGM is not important? There is a difference between saying that BGM is important and saying that BGM is everything.. Hope it is understood.

  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 13:00:54 2009.

  Mr pj, same difference. I didn't say bgm is everything.nayagan without ir wouldn't be the nayagan we know. Idhai thaan modhallerundhe solren. Bgm is part of the magic. If you take away the bgm, then it wouldn't be the experience we know of it. In other words, not nothing but a significantly reduced piece not worth the adulation it deserves now-mgaren.it would still be something but not what it is now
  Puriyudha?
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sat Aug 15 13:05:15 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Mr pj, same difference. I didn't say bgm is everything

  
  
  Naanga appo lerndhu theliva thaan irukkom.. neenga thaan pala vidhama balti adikreenga ... epadiyo NOW atleast you are denying the bolded statement... Adhu podhum
  
  

  Quote:

  nayagan without ir wouldn't be the nayagan we know.

  Agreed..
  
  X-y != X-z for any y!=z or z=0 nu solreenga... It is obvious.. no one can deny that...
  
  I dont think anyone is disagreeing with rest of ur post, if you thought so you were imagining it
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 13:06:31 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  ...appo whts so special about extra ordinary acting of kamal calibre that it will be missed

  
  <No reply> Just Re-tweeted do draw the attention of authorities concerned.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 13:09:30 2009.

  Seri vudunga. Modhalla naan sonnadhe ir music eduthutta, nayagan will be pointless-nu. Meaning that(maane), that would be settling for less when more is achievable. A compromise not worth takingnu. Who denied that kamals acting ws great there? I still cannot think of bgm as anything other than an integral prt. Acessoryngara pechukke idam illai, even if that's not an insult.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 13:10:52 2009.

  In other words, for me it being a bound script gathering dust because kamal not available is same as a reduced release without ir.Pointless.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Aug 15 13:16:16 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: PR Intha clip la 5:10 lendu end of the clip varaikum paathuttu sollunga, BGM and Acting lifts up the scene completely... Ithellam writer kittenthu varathu improvise panna thaan varaum... When I mean writer I mean the one who 'conceives' the scene. The actor/director determines if the execution is convincing. Music adds to the experience immensely.

  
  
  Well said !! Recently I was watching a program on Vijay that featured Yugi Sethu, Pratham Bothan and another person (forgot) and hosted by Gopinath. They were discusisng about poor quality of thamizh movies and they all agreed it mainly because writer is not given the required recognition. Yugi was saying in Hollywood - writer is the king and the director has to listen to what writer says ( was watching "the making of "The Green Mile" recently and realised how true Yugi Sethu's statement was)
  
  Yugi said "sila directors phone paNNuvaanga.. paNNi, saar.. kathai discussion'la irukkOm koncham time irunthA intha pakkam vanthuttu pOngaLEn, ithuthAn inga writer'ku uLLa mariyAthai. idhE mAthiri Rahman'ku phone paNNi "bhai.. vidhya sagar kooda composingla irukkOm.. koncham time irunthA intha pakkam vanthuttu pOngaLEn'nu yArAvathu koopiduvAngalA"
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 13:21:57 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: ...appo whts so special about extra ordinary acting of kamal calibre that it will be missed <No reply> Just Re-tweeted do draw the attention of authorities concerned.

  
  
  ada pavi! Naan enna sonnaen!
  Sagid kappoorlaam vechu nalla padam edukka mudiyarachE, it must be possible to make a fine movie without kamal level talent-nu.
  In other words, you are saying nayagan-ir would still be great because of kamal. Iam saying nayagan-kamal can be equally good as the minus ir version if a competewnt actor of significantly less quality than kamal provided ir is there.in other words,bgm is not a junior partner but equal partner
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Aug 15 13:22:18 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  . idhE mAthiri Rahman'ku phone paNNi "bhai.. vidhya sagar kooda composingla irukkOm.. koncham time irunthA intha pakkam vanthuttu pOngaLEn'nu yArAvathu koopiduvAngalA"

  
  
  
  idhu avunga point-u
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Aug 15 13:25:38 2009.

  Sari someone pls revive gounder thread!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Aug 15 13:31:52 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Roshan wrote: . idhE mAthiri Rahman'ku phone paNNi "bhai.. vidhya sagar kooda composingla irukkOm.. koncham time irunthA intha pakkam vanthuttu pOngaLEn'nu yArAvathu koopiduvAngalA" idhu avunga point-u

  
  
  I know Prabhu.. but inga ethu important'nu theriyAma guthikkiRaanga'nu yugi solla vanthAr - adha thaan naanum solla vanthEn.
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Aug 15 13:44:04 2009.

  Kaanjeevaram (second time)
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Aug 15 21:38:51 2009.

  KadaisiyA pArthathu Madhurai (Jaya TV). Not so bad. Flash back and the climax were interesting.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Aug 15 22:50:55 2009.

  I thinl TFI has not only survived but also has grown by leaps and bounds quality-wise even with the exit of IR in the last 15 years or more.
  
  So the question of IR and his BGM being an equal partner in the greatness of a film is nullified.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Aug 15 23:08:37 2009.

  Something Something Unakum Enakum
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Aug 15 23:40:04 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  I thinl TFI has not only survived but also has grown by leaps and bounds quality-wise even with the exit of IR in the last 15 years or more. So the question of IR and his BGM being an equal partner in the greatness of a film is nullified.

  
  
  well u cant quite say that - they still play IR songs and BGMs to run a movie ......IR was part of sethu which was the trendsetter of all these PV,vennila kabaddi kuzhu, subramaniapurm etc.....so IR has contributed pretty much to TFI in last 10 yrs as well...
  
  but i dont agree that IR was greater than Manirtnam or Kamal in Nayagan........clearly Kamal and maniratnam had superior work in that movie.......also, i dont believe IR's BGM was everything or the first thing in the movies he scored......mudhal mariyadhai ellam pinna enna survived on BGM-a ...also, i dont believe IR was the best thing that happened to TFI.....adhellam fanboy statements that needs to stay in their respective sections not in public places
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Aug 15 23:46:07 2009.

  maddy, dont read between my lines.
  I was merely answering to Plums assertion that nayagan's quality is because of IR's BGM.
  
  also I disagree with you on your last statement. IR was indeed the best thing that happened to TFM in the mid-70s.
  whatever anyone says, cannot remove IR from the mantle of TFM. (and should I add, whatever IR said recently? )
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Aug 15 23:49:43 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  (and should I add, whatever IR says recently? )

  
  
  well, he has been doing that all these 17 yrs - wats new ......i should have never liked his work then
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 0:12:20 2009.

  Oh oh oh...idhu vEra maadhiri pOgudhu.
  
  Just that this case happen to be IR. It is equally relevant to any MD. Lest this should distract the debate, let me make it a little clear. Rahman thalaigeezha ninnu BGM pOttAlum he can NEVER be the most important of a film. IMO of course.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 16 0:14:54 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Oh oh oh...idhu vEra maadhiri pOgudhu.

  ellaa pugazhum namma maddy'kkE
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Rahman thalaigeezha ninnu BGM pOttAlum he can NEVER be the most important of a film.

  Agree 100% with you.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 0:38:16 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Rahman thalaigeezha ninnu BGM pOttAlum he can NEVER be the most important of a film. IMO of course.

  
  
  sakkarakatti
  
  singaravelan Mano: kadhaya paaru
  GM: enga irundhaa dhaane
  
  kandippa rahman and IR were the most important things in many films......idhayathhai thirudaadhe, kadhal desam, ilamai kaalangal, en swaase katre etc etc.....but as u see, they are required to handhold lesser writings not nayagan or kannathil muthamittal......
  
  i also accept, IR can save hopeless movies with his BGM whereas rahman can do it only with his songs.......thalaivar has accepted that scenes inspire him to do BGM, so bad moviesla rahman nalla BGM poduradhu remba kashtam.....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 16 0:43:50 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  I thinl TFI has not only survived but also has grown by leaps and bounds quality-wise even with the exit of IR in the last 15 years or more. So the question of IR and his BGM being an equal partner in the greatness of a film is nullified.

  
  
  Really?
  
  Better than 80's(movies of popular directors and ir) and early nineties(of kamal)?
  
  We dont have actors like rajni,kamal,prabhu or sathyaraj.
  
  All 80's movies are almost done by ilayaraja - compare with music directors of todays
  
  And directors?...How many are good?....and how many good movies are released compared with the movies released in 80's and early nineties in past 15 years?
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 2:16:53 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  kandippa rahman and IR were the most important things in many films......idhayathhai thirudaadhe, kadhal desam, ilamai kaalangal, en swaase katre etc etc...

  
  Atleast to me they are not. They may have been the ones who added the star value to the film drawing me to the theatre. Once in the theatre, lights off, projection starts they are relegated to the background. adhaichonnEn.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Aug 16 4:43:10 2009.

  Nadodigal
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Aug 16 6:06:23 2009.

  After all that discussion, here's a wonderful post on IR's techniques of scoring title card bgm by Sureshkumar, who I suspect might be a Hubber in some name or other.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Aug 16 6:14:34 2009.

  http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/in-action/arrahman
  Ah! There's it from the horse's mouth! Rahman on his BGM philosophy.
  
  WARNING: Die-hard Raja fanatics, stay away. His answer to his BGM style could be interpreted as criticism of Raja, just as Raja's words on EPI was interpreted as criticism of Rahman. Request IR fans not to make the same mistake.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 6:30:07 2009.

  Murai maaman - koundar, chanceless .....movie just collapses after initial comedy......
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 6:32:23 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  After all that discussion, here's a wonderful post on IR's techniques of scoring title card bgm by Sureshkumar, who I suspect might be a Hubber in some name or other.

  
  
  Whoa ! Digested only a portion till now. indha vaarathukkuLLa padichu mudikkaNum
  
  (I thing) he is the Hubber sureshmechnit. He wrote about background scores of iruvar, pithamagan 7G etc in the Hub magazine once
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 6:35:24 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Murai maaman - koundar, chanceless .....movie just collapses after initial comedy......

  naan adhuvaraikkum dhaan pArththEn
  
  Every scene he is in is a riot.
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Aug 16 7:01:31 2009.

  Kaminey - really good one
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 16 7:56:56 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  NOV wrote: I thinl TFI has not only survived but also has grown by leaps and bounds quality-wise even with the exit of IR in the last 15 years or more. So the question of IR and his BGM being an equal partner in the greatness of a film is nullified. well u cant quite say that - they still play IR songs and BGMs to run a movie ......IR was part of sethu which was the trendsetter of all these PV,vennila kabaddi kuzhu, subramaniapurm etc.....so IR has contributed pretty much to TFI in last 10 yrs as well... but i dont agree that IR was greater than Manirtnam or Kamal in Nayagan........clearly Kamal and maniratnam had superior work in that movie.......also, I dont believe IR's BGM was everything or the first thing in the movies he scored......mudhal mariyadhai ellam pinna enna survived on BGM-a ...also, i dont believe IR was the best thing that happened to TFI.....adhellam fanboy statements that needs to stay in their respective sections not in public places

  
  
  Completely disagree with both first and last point. First point'a fanboys'kooda othukka mAttAnga
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 16 8:00:22 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Oh oh oh...idhu vEra maadhiri pOgudhu. Just that this case happen to be IR. It is equally relevant to any MD. Lest this should distract the debate, let me make it a little clear. Rahman thalaigeezha ninnu BGM pOttAlum he can NEVER be the most important of a film. IMO of course.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Aug 16 8:06:22 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: After all that discussion, here's a wonderful post on IR's techniques of scoring title card bgm by Sureshkumar, who I suspect might be a Hubber in some name or other. Whoa ! Digested only a portion till now. indha vaarathukkuLLa padichu mudikkaNum (I thing) he is the Hubber sureshmechnit. He wrote about background scores of iruvar, pithamagan 7G etc in the Hub magazine once

  
  
  Yeah he is. I think he also comes in Suresh65 ID!
  
  I love his analysis very much!
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sun Aug 16 8:08:13 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  After all that discussion, here's a wonderful post on IR's techniques of scoring title card bgm by Sureshkumar, who I suspect might be a Hubber in some name or other.

  
  
  ஆமாங்க, ஹப்பர் தான் (பிரபுராம் அவரோட ID போட்டிருக்கார்). அவரே இந்த லிங்க் IR albums forum'ல போட்டிருந்தார்...
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sun Aug 16 8:26:25 2009.

  PR,
  
  Your point regarding BGM as a supporting component to a movie and hence director taking the #1 spot, followed by the lead actor (who has the advantage of being present on the screen with imagery) and then the technicians is CORRECT in the GENERAL THEORY of movie making
  
  Accordingly, when a master like MR sweats out to make Nayakan with Kamal taking so much of extra efforts (e.g. lost his meesai) , it's definitely very difficult to give top spot to IR for the overall output - i.e. as the movie in whole. (Even without going to hypothetical discussions like 'what if he didn't score', 'what if another guy scored' etc).
  
  However, this cannot be applied to every cine field in the world and definitely not to every movie / every scene etc.
  
  For e.g., there are tons of great western movies without any songs. OTOH, there are any number of listless movies that are watched MAINLY for their songs. It won't be difficult to give a superior credit in such movies to the song composer. It won't be surprising to see ARR getting more remuneration than the director for any non-MR / non-Shankar movie in TFM
  
  Similarly, there are tons of scenes from many movies which are remembered for just the BGM. One has to give the credit to the MD in such specific cases. (simple e.g., I remember only the theme music from G-B-Ugly to this day, nothing else has stayed in my mind - that wasn't there in so many cowboy / John Wayne movies prior and I won't hesitate to say who IMO is #1 for that movie)
  
  I don' t think the hero RK (or that SP Rajkumar who directed the movie) got paid more than vadivElu or Ilayaraja for Azhagar malai
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 16 9:07:05 2009.

  "Once upon a time in the west" would be more appropriate. I can't imagine the film without the BGM and especially the nostalgic harmonica score (which absolutely carries the emotional core of the film). Would the film be bearable without Morricone's work? No. Similarly, Gabriel's oboe forms the basis of "The Mission", the vehical for the father "reaching" out to the tribe, and for that matter, Klinski playing the opera piece ("Now It's Caruso's turn") in "Fitzcarraldo". They are no longer abstract entities, they form the key moments of the film, and organic to the plot. In such instances, the composer clearly sets out the grand schema, and holds the pivot.
  
  On the other hand, TGTBATU had a memorable score, but it takes lesser precedence to the visuals. Some lengthy scenes wouldn't have been conceived the way they did. ("Ecstasy of Gold" in the graveyard sequence for example).
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sun Aug 16 9:17:02 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Oh oh oh...idhu vEra maadhiri pOgudhu. Just that this case happen to be IR. It is equally relevant to any MD. Lest this should distract the debate, let me make it a little clear. Rahman thalaigeezha ninnu BGM pOttAlum he can NEVER be the most important of a film. IMO of course.

  
  
  Same here... completely agree.
  
  App engine, I understand your POV. As you said in such films, music/BGM are the only redeeming factors, but still they don't make the film any better. They only offer a relieving digression from what should have been an engaging motion picture in the first place. No way it can make up for a lackadaisical film, perhaps the music/BGM made life better inside the theater, but the impact is only as much as you would expect when listening on an Audio system, in which case the whole point of being in a motion picture is lost.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 9:31:52 2009.

  I think we should end this citing irreconciliable differences.
  When the film is bad I don't ever remember a BGM salvaging it for me. I can't notice a good BGM when the movie is ordinary. (And, much to my loss, I sometimes often bother noticing the BGM when the movie is good.)
  
  Anyway, here's the exact anecdote I referred to in my response to compli's quote. Jeyamohan watching a film along with cinematographer Arthur Wilson
  
  

  Jeyamohan wrote:

  வில்சன் படங்களைப் பார்ப்பதே தனி ரகம். அவர் பெரும்படைப்புகளை மட்டுமே ‘பார்ப்பார்’- அதன் சரியான அர்த்தத்தில். ஒருமுறை நான் அவருடன் அமர்ந்து ஒரு படம் பார்த்தேன். அரை இருட்டு. ஒருவன் ஒருத்தியிடம் நெருங்கி ஏதோ செய்ய அல்லது சொல்ல அவள் அப்படியே கதறியபடி தரையில் அமர்ந்துவிடுகிறாள். எனக்கு ஒன்றும் புரியவில்லை.”என்ன பிரதர்? என்ன ஆச்சு ?” என்றேன் பதற்றமாக. ”தரைக்கு மட்டும் லைட் லீக் போட்டிருக்கான் சார்” என்றார் வில்சன் அமைதியாக.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 16 9:39:23 2009.

  thoondil
  
  and I had nearly watched the film in the cinema
  
  three yucky factors made this film worse. (Sham, Sandya, Divya Spandana) add to this prestigious list Mr. RK
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 16 9:47:51 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  [tscii]I think we should end this citing irreconciliable differences. When the film is bad I don't ever remember a BGM salvaging it for me. I can't notice a good BGM when the movie is ordinary. (And, much to my loss, I sometimes often bother noticing the BGM when the movie is good.)

  
  
  Same here.
  
  Anyway, to this subject.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 11:41:58 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  kandippa rahman and IR were the most important things in many films......idhayathhai thirudaadhe, kadhal desam, ilamai kaalangal, en swaase katre etc etc.....but as u see, they are required to handhold lesser writings not nayagan or kannathil muthamittal...... i also accept, IR can save hopeless movies with his BGM whereas rahman can do it only with his songs.......thalaivar has accepted that scenes inspire him to do BGM, so bad moviesla rahman nalla BGM poduradhu remba kashtam.....

  
  
  
  I loved Kadhalar Dhinam BGM.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 11:50:18 2009.

  Plum/Viv,
  It is pointless to argue with anyone who "relegates" IR w.r.t BGM.
  Solravainga sollattum nu vidradhu dhaan bestu.. yeah yeah, accessory, beltu, etc etc
  
  Edit: idha sollittu eppadi argue panren paarunga
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 12:20:18 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Benny Lava wrote: Being an accessory or not is a subjective phenomenon. As you can see there have been powerful movies without music. namma ippo andha movies pathi pesalaye I didnt know that we are only discussing about a subset of movies. Even if we did, it doesn't nullify my statement. Right?

  
  Aahaa!
  Did Plum or anyone else say IR and his BGM is the most important feature of every movie that has been ever released?
  
  PR: BGM is *only* an accessory. (Correct me if i'm wrong but i think he means it without any qualifications)
  Plum/Kuzhu: BGM is sometimes the most important part of a few movies, the biggest force in certain scenes etc.
  Strictly speaking (strictly speaking na kaila peramba vechuttu speak pannanuma?), "padam" nu vandhutta writer/director is the captain nu sollalaam. Sila peru editor/editing dhaan main nu solluvaanga, yenna thats how cinema differs from other forms nu solluvaanga...
  At least i see it as an experience i go through. Sometimes the biggest contributor may be the story/concept/script, sometimes the director, sometimes the actor and sometimes the music and often the combination of these various factors. Idhula oru subset a music a paakkalaam. And combination a vara idathula sila samayam BGM > the lighting/acting/writing for a particular scene.
  
  Dev D madhiri oru padam - indha padathula music verum "accessory" nu solla mudiyuma?
  Naama solradhu irukkattum, Balu Master, John Mahendran, Bala etc ivanga sollirukkardhayum consider pannalaam.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 12:30:06 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I guess it boils down to having experienced music writing the scene. Well, you hve to internalize ir for that. I can understand if bgm is not importnat because you haven't experienced it.

  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 12:38:53 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  PR: BGM is *only* an accessory. (Correct me if i'm wrong but i think he means it without any qualifications)

  Yes I meant universally. Feeble IMO qualifier.
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  (strictly speaking na kaila peramba vechuttu speak pannanuma?)

  
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Dev D madhiri oru padam - indha padathula music verum "accessory" nu solla mudiyuma?

  
  I guess 'accessory' was a poor choice of word on my part. I meant something on the lines of useful -or rather immensely useful- tool. Okay it's getting worse by the minute.
  
  In Dev D, the songs ( I don't recall anything about the BGM) are non-fastforwardable because nearly all of the story/ lovely scenes happen during the songs.
  
  pAttellAm appuram medhuvA kEttEn and surely it helped relive moments in the movie without spending those six straight hours in the theatre.
  
  [quote"crajkumar_be"]Sila peru editor/editing dhaan main nu solluvaanga, yenna thats how cinema differs from other forms nu solluvaanga...[/quote] After hearing some of our directors' intrees, I am inclined to give more credit to editors. nalla vELai avunga interview ellAm tharAma low profile maindain paNraainga.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 12:40:14 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  also, i dont believe IR was the best thing that happened to TFI.....adhellam fanboy statements that needs to stay in their respective sections not in public places

  
  Idhayellam edhukku inga solreenga?
  
  "Jai Ho" ellam is a song which even S.A Rajkumar will be ashamed of and would be glad to disown, aana Oscar kedachiruchu-ngara vishayatha ellarum kondaadrom. Somehting that should not even be heard in private sections, let alone public. Appo idha fanboy kooda seyyakkoodadhu nu niruthiruvoma?
  
  One can say the same thing to *anybody* whom you say is the best thing that happened to TFI - NT, MGR, Rajini, Kamal, IR, ARR - fanboy statement, not suitable for public consumption and all that nonsense
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 12:52:37 2009.

  Dev D edhukku sonnen-na, IMO for a movie like that, music (song) deserves a bit more credit than what you are giving but then it all boils down to your experience and for you, you could live without the score/music. Viv put it well.
  Music enbadhu "important but NEVER as important as the other main factors" nu solradhula dhaan engalukku objection
  
  [quote"Prabhu Ram"]nd surely it helped relive moments in the movie without spending those six straight hours in the theatre[/quote]
  
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 16 12:53:59 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  BGM is sometimes the most important part of a few movies, the biggest force in certain scenes etc. Strictly speaking (strictly speaking na kaila peramba vechuttu speak pannanuma?), "padam" nu vandhutta writer/director is the captain nu sollalaam. Sila peru editor/editing dhaan main nu solluvaanga, yenna thats how cinema differs from other forms nu solluvaanga... At least i see it as an experience i go through. Sometimes the biggest contributor may be the story/concept/script, sometimes the director, sometimes the actor and sometimes the music and often the combination of these various factors. Idhula oru subset a music a paakkalaam. And combination a vara idathula sila samayam BGM > the lighting/acting/writing for a particular scene.

  
  
  
  
  

  Sandy Bates wrote:

  I don't know. I guess it was the combination of everything..the sound of that music, and the breeze, and how beautiful Dorrie looked to me. And for one brief moment, everything just seemed to come together perfectly, and I felt happy. Almost indestructible, in a way. And it's funny, that simple little moment of contact moved me in a very, very profound way.

  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Aug 16 13:09:16 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Plum/Viv, It is pointless to argue with anyone who "relegates" IR w.r.t BGM. Solravainga sollattum nu vidradhu dhaan bestu.. yeah yeah, accessory, beltu, etc etc Edit: idha sollittu eppadi argue panren paarunga

  
  Illa cr, I think I see where pr is coming from. but to me, even if mahandhi without ir will have a powerful impact, it is pointless. The script is powerful enough still knowing what ir did with it, it is impossible to separte that aspect and say it would have been equally good without it. - impossible for me I mean.
  
  What they are saying is that the point of mahandhi is its script and it will be impaxtful if in lesser form. That is fine but then what's the point?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 13:34:26 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Idhayellam edhukku inga solreenga? "Jai Ho" ellam is a song which even S.A Rajkumar will be ashamed of and would be glad to disown, aana Oscar kedachiruchu-ngara vishayatha ellarum kondaadrom. Somehting that should not even be heard in private sections, let alone public. Appo idha fanboy kooda seyyakkoodadhu nu niruthiruvoma?

  
  
  ofcourse CR, if i say Jai ho is the "only" ulimate song that can be composed by any 2-handed, 2-legged creature on planet earth - it is a fanboy statement which has to stay in ARR orkut/yahoo/hub arr sections only etc......its more like vijay fans claiming 200 days run for a movie like sachin.......
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Aug 16 13:45:31 2009.

  Here is something Nerd & I wrote regarding this scene:
  
  

  Nerd wrote:

  Can't youtube from here, but the Sundari BGM (on just a violin solo I think) when Rajini sees Shobana in that scene always gets me

  
  
  

  complicateur wrote:

  Yes Nerd, but there is so much more. The brassy piece for Arjun's confrontation. One can almost feel the call to war. And then the slackening of intensity in the music with the Chinnath thAyavaL piece when the audience POV shifts to SuryA. I have a pet theory on KarNA. Even if he were not handicapped by the curse of the Brahmin or ParashurAmA or weakened by the loss of the Kavacha KundalAs KarNA would have died. He along with YudhisthirA and KrishnA were the only people on the field who knew of his origins. It was nearly impossible that he would have had the same 'game face' as ArjuNA. He could not be the burdenless charioteers son who outclassed ArjuNA in the talent display at HastinApurA. RAjA manages to convey all of this with a few notes. The man knows me like no other!

  
  
  My inference/theory is not explicitly mentioned by any other portion of the movie. It is all rAjA. I find it hard to not give something that generates this kind of thought its due.
  Nerd's comment is even more relevant. He didn't even need to see the video - his memory of that scene is vivid enough to understand what about the scene gets to him. I will maintain that BGM is an essential functional department a la sewer cleaning - few will notice what it is doing until it is not being done any more.
  
  *Additional theory digression - Anyone think MR purposefully inserted the Shobana character to suggest Draupadi's supposed affection for KarNA?*
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 16 14:24:11 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  ofcourse CR, if i say Jai ho is the "only" ulimate song that can be composed by any 2-handed, 2-legged creature on planet earth - it is a fanboy statement which has to stay in ARR orkut/yahoo/hub arr sections only etc......its more like vijay fans claiming 200 days run for a movie like sachin.......

  
  You are shifting the goal posts now. The quoted line is not akin to the example you have given in this post.
  "Best thing to happen to TFI" != "Only ultimate song that can be composed" - In this context.
  I mean its not as if someone claimed "Sam Anderson is the best new face". If someone says IR is the best to have happened to TFI - feel free to disagree but you ought to have someone whom you think is the best thing. Neenga IR-ku badhila yaara sonnaalum unga comment adhukku porundhum. It is absurd to say such an opinion should not be expressed in public forums.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 22:52:21 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  You are shifting the goal posts now. The quoted line is not akin to the example you have given in this post. "Best thing to happen to TFI" != "Only ultimate song that can be composed" - In this context. I mean its not as if someone claimed "Sam Anderson is the best new face". If someone says IR is the best to have happened to TFI - feel free to disagree but you ought to have someone whom you think is the best thing. Neenga IR-ku badhila yaara sonnaalum unga comment adhukku porundhum. It is absurd to say such an opinion should not be expressed in public forums.

  
  
  ok ok, neenga solra context puriyudhu......but dont u think when u have sivaji, kamal, mahendran, BR etc - thats a big statement ......naa adha thaan sonnen.....
  
  **enna poruthha varaikkum, annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films **
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 16 23:02:23 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: You are shifting the goal posts now. The quoted line is not akin to the example you have given in this post. "Best thing to happen to TFI" != "Only ultimate song that can be composed" - In this context. I mean its not as if someone claimed "Sam Anderson is the best new face". If someone says IR is the best to have happened to TFI - feel free to disagree but you ought to have someone whom you think is the best thing. Neenga IR-ku badhila yaara sonnaalum unga comment adhukku porundhum. It is absurd to say such an opinion should not be expressed in public forums. ok ok, neenga solra context puriyudhu......but dont u think when u have sivaji, kamal, mahendran, BR etc - thats a big statement ......naa adha thaan sonnen..... **enna poruthha varaikkum, annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films **

  
  
  Mahendran,BR periya thillalangadi acclaimed directors thaan..
  
  But their contribution to TFI greater than rajava?...idhu ungalukke konjam overa padala?atleast look at the length and breadth of his work..as we are comparing persons of two different works...we should compare how far they have achieved in their respective fields.
  
  IR is the best thing happened to TFI definitely in the 80's.So he will be one of the competitors for "Best thing happened in Tamil cinema"
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 23:13:01 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  IR is the best thing happened to TFI definitely in the 80's.So he will be one of the competitors for "Best thing happened in Tamil cinema"

  
  
  hmm, i think this will trigger another cycle of recursive arguements, so let me "for this conversation" accept ur viewpoint and leave it
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 23:42:14 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  *Additional theory digression - Anyone think MR purposefully inserted the Shobana character to suggest Draupadi's supposed affection for KarNA?*

  
  
  Where is Karna mentioned in this link ?
  
  
  While Duryodhana fails in the swayamvara Karna does not. He strings the bow and is ready to shoot (and most likely would have) and it is Draupadi who raises a voice of objection saying she will never marry one who is low-born. i.e. it was not an objection raised by the circumstances/father etc.
  
  That is what MR changed beautifully. unakku vENdiyadhu...oru veLLai thOlu, naalu vaarthai englis-la pEsaNum. Surya just says these lines, he knows that it is not actually true (or is it) but can't help saying something spiteful to end it all.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 16 23:44:31 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films

  
  Most certainly. Apples, oranges not withstanding.
  He is indeed the big one as he himself declared: "muthu..naan dhaan aNNan"
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 16 23:56:24 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MADDY wrote: annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films Most certainly. Apples, oranges not withstanding. He is indeed the big one as he himself declared: "muthu..naan dhaan aNNan"

  
  
  annan's total capacity is too huge , we have dialogues for every situation ....this itself the proof
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Aug 17 0:13:41 2009.

  Compli, excellent post. Wrote something similar but with a significantly inferior example to PR on PM yest. Ofcourse, the articulation was also signif. Inferior
  The crux is that BgM cn do its own writing. I guess PR has his intentional fallacy fetish so possibly, that's the reason he takes the view he does:-)
  
  

• From: complicateur on Mon Aug 17 0:42:08 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  complicateur wrote: *Additional theory digression - Anyone think MR purposefully inserted the Shobana character to suggest Draupadi's supposed affection for KarNA?* Where is Karna mentioned in this link ?

  
  Ah wrong link, right book! PratibhA Roy's book YajnasEni twists the story to insinuate that it is DhrishtadyumnA who doesnt allow KarNA to participate while Draupadi had already set her heart on him. She holds a torch for him the entire book supposedly (apparently explicitly stating to KrishnA that she loves all the PAndavAs even the eldest).
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MADDY wrote: annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films Most certainly. Apples, oranges not withstanding. He is indeed the big one as he himself declared: "muthu..naan dhaan aNNan"

  *nods silently in agreement*
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Aug 17 0:47:59 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MADDY wrote: annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films Most certainly. Apples, oranges not withstanding. He is indeed the big one as he himself declared: "muthu..naan dhaan aNNan"

  
  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 17 0:54:53 2009.

  Oh this Mahabaratha twisting is such a universal fascination with maturity levels on both ends of the spectrum
  
  In college I labored a sonnet-type long 'un, about Ekalaiva reappearing in the battlefield Kaurava saide, managing to clutch the bow with his right hand. Drona has to transgress and backstabs Ekalaiva to keep his vow to Arjuna. Disgusted with himself he loses aim and his wayward arrow hits a Pandava elephant. Universal connectedness-aamaam.
  
  Later I heard about a group of tribals in MP who drew arrows using index and middle finger (and thus the extension that they descended from Ek.). Slapped my foreheard. That's what happens when one skips biology class when they taught 'opposable thumbs'.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Aug 17 2:44:05 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  That is what MR changed beautifully. unakku vENdiyadhu...oru veLLai thOlu, naalu vaarthai englis-la pEsaNum. Surya just says these lines, he knows that it is not actually true (or is it) but can't help saying something spiteful to end it all.

  
  PR,
  What's really beautiful about this change? Mani has basically shied away from exploring the dynamics of her relationship with Surya. This is perhaps not a very key element to the story, so I don't want to emphasise the failure too much, but this ties in to the overall hackwork Mani did with this film. Who would have thought, Duryodhana would one day tell Arjuna, "suryAvOda kudumbam, en kudumbam?"
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Aug 17 2:52:37 2009.

  Clear-cut Parallels to Mahabharatham is at odds of course. Deva-Surya bond is wafer-thin and less detailed compared to Duryodhana-Karna, and even that line "suryAvOda kudumbam, en kudumbam?" didn't come across well.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Aug 17 3:13:01 2009.

  kid-glove,
  Yes, and it's not just the way the film concludes that jars. The film simply evades the dynamics of the relationship between the chief characters here. There's no conflict in any of the characters. Surya doesn't want his mother to know that he's her lost son, but when she does come to know, there's no real barrier between the two. Why, Arjun himself reconciles with Surya after he comes to know that the latter is his elder brother after all. Duryodhana doesn't mind joining the party either. Everyone is in love with everyone else, so to say!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 17 3:14:42 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  **enna poruthha varaikkum, annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films **

  
  Roshan,
  Idhukku enna solreenga. "Adhuve" parava illa nu thonudhilla?!
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 17 3:26:17 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: That is what MR changed beautifully. unakku vENdiyadhu...oru veLLai thOlu, naalu vaarthai englis-la pEsaNum. Surya just says these lines, he knows that it is not actually true (or is it) but can't help saying something spiteful to end it all. PR, What's really beautiful about this change? Mani has basically shied away from exploring the dynamics of her relationship with Surya. This is perhaps not a very key element to the story, so I don't want to emphasise the failure too much, but this ties in to the overall hackwork Mani did with this film. Who would have thought, Duryodhana would one day tell Arjuna, "suryAvOda kudumbam, en kudumbam?"

  
  
  What I find beautiful is the way in which Surya attributes to Subbu that she rejected him for his deficiencies (which is what Draupadi did). It is tragic because we know he knows that is not true. That is the change that elevates the drama of their relationship.
  What is the scope for examining the relationship any further ? Surya making polite inquiries about her welfare is as 'warm' as it can get within the framework.
  
  I wouldn't stretch the comparison with the source too far.
  Otherwise we'll have to psychoanalyze the atheistic MR having KrishnaparamAthma get his gory commeppance and all.
  
  Wherever it works it works is how I see it. The extents to which parallels were done is good, not too groused about the misses. I felt most (in terms of the parallel) that could be done in this framewoek was indeed done.
  
  Duryodhana flipping like climax Nambiar (enna oru espression Mamootty ) is indefensibly silly. As k-g says everything about the Deva-Surya relationship is.
  
  To slightlly redeem MR, Deva is written to be an impulsive, rough, heart-of-gold. Over the years the silliness is decreasing. I may one day find the portrayal 'authentic'.
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 17 3:31:36 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Everyone is in love with everyone else, so to say!

  Haha
  Quite true.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Aug 17 3:33:54 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  kid-glove, Yes, and it's not just the way the film concludes that jars. The film simply evades the dynamics of the relationship between the chief characters here. There's no conflict in any of the characters. Surya doesn't want his mother to know that he's her lost son, but when she does come to know, there's no real barrier between the two. Why, Arjun himself reconciles with Surya after he comes to know that the latter is his elder brother after all. Duryodhana doesn't mind joining the party either. Everyone is in love with everyone else, so to say!

  
  
  Mani failed despite taking liberties of adaptation. Maybe he wanted to showcase on-screen natpu of two superstars.
  
  VB excels in getting dynamics of the relationships, and to certain extent, psychoanalytically reasonable.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 17 3:34:25 2009.

  Achamundu Achamundu - Try pannirukkaanga but velaikkagala. Porumaya sodhikkarainga lighta
  And though i liked the song "Kannil Dhagam", what is it doing in this film? In fact, the placement of the song was quite funny.
  
  Parts of Rock On: I was bracing for something bad but it wasnt all that bad. Farhan nalla nadikkaraapla...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Aug 17 3:39:50 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  What I find beautiful is the way in which Surya attributes to Subbu that she rejected him for his deficiencies (which is what Draupadi did). It is tragic because we know he knows that is not true. That is the change that elevates the drama of their relationship. What is the scope for examining the relationship any further ? Surya making polite inquiries about her welfare is as 'warm' as it can get within the framework.

  
  
  
  
  He was left with two options
  
  1.Shobana selected arvindswamy over him (colour,englees etc)
  
  2.Though shobana is in love with him - situations have separated them.
  
  Its soothing for him to believe or speak with her based on the first option though he knew that the second option was the fact,which was a very hard thing to swallow/speak about during their point of separation.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Aug 17 4:01:57 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  MADDY wrote: **enna poruthha varaikkum, annan koundar is the best thing to have happened to tamil films ** Roshan, Idhukku enna solreenga. "Adhuve" parava illa nu thonudhilla?!

  
  
  Yes ! Adhaan sirichittu vittutEn. Idukkan varungkAl naguga !
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Aug 17 4:10:01 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  What I find beautiful is the way in which Surya attributes to Subbu that she rejected him for his deficiencies (which is what Draupadi did). It is tragic because we know he knows that is not true. That is the change that elevates the drama of their relationship.

  
  What I was referring to is how yet again it is made clear that Draupadi herself is not rejecting Karna. Again, these are all very crucial elements that evocatively depict the state of Karna. MR oversimplifies several things here and is also guilty of superficially melodramatising the story of Karna. Also consider that MR has never been as overtly melodramatic (which is not a bad thing in itself) anywhere else as in this film (i.e., it's fair to say that in general overt melodrama is not "his thing"). It's almost as if that's all he thought of the material at his hand.
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Surya making polite inquiries about her welfare is as 'warm' as it can get within the framework.

  
  Agreed. That was a very warm moment indeed. But again, the dynamics is already shifted.
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 17 4:24:52 2009.

  General overt melodrama may not be his thing but superficiality is. Many of his characters tend to have as much depth as a saibol dabbA. To his credit, it must also be added that that is indeed deeper than the norm.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Aug 17 8:32:22 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Many of his characters tend to have as much depth as a saibol dabbA.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Aug 17 11:08:32 2009.

  Ach * 2 - Sumaar. The first 30 mins or so was extremely boring. Tamil NRI coubles life-a accurate-A portray pannirundhaanga. Which is why it was such a borefest. AdhukkappuRamum rembbba slow. Prasanna/Sneha OK-A pannirukkAnga, not anywhere close to their bests. KadEsila statistics ellAm OK, adhukku ennamO superstar intro maadhiri oru BGM??
  
  Cinematography was superb.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Aug 17 11:09:49 2009.

  Apart from that, how did Karthik Raja fare?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 17 11:13:23 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Apart from that, how did Karthik Raja fare?

  
  I thought he didn't do a bad job with the BGM. Nerd sonna climax ku BGM nyabagam illa. I didn't like that "You say you say U.S.A" song. "Kannil dhaagam" was good but like i said i felt it was a misfit. In fact, song-e thevai illa....
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Aug 17 11:17:50 2009.

  Karthik Raja was good in many scenes, but innum niraiya ethirpArthEn. He always does a good job in BGM.
  
  Padathula enna solla varrAngannE theriyalai. Very superficial. Kadhal kondEn flashback scenes were much better
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Aug 17 11:17:56 2009.

  Thanks. Haven't listened to the songs yet.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 17 11:24:58 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Karthik Raja was good in many scenes, but innum niraiya ethirpArthEn. He always does a good job in BGM. Padathula enna solla varrAngannE theriyalai. Very superficial. Kadhal kondEn flashback scenes were much better

  
  Adhavadhu, onnu perpetrator yaarunnu kadaisi varaikkum theriyakkoodadhu. Appadi therinjiruchunna, aduthu enna pannuvaan, eppadi pannuvaannu kondu poganum. Inga rendume illa. A major part of the film is like a filler after which we know what will happen.
  And the kanavan-manaivi conflict track was hilarious in a few scenes. Lighta disagreement/argument na rendu perum mood out aiduvaanga and edho tragedy nadandha madhiri kaamippaanga.
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Aug 17 11:31:24 2009.

  Quote:

  Lighta disagreement/argument na rendu perum mood out aiduvaanga and edho tragedy nadandha madhiri kaamippaanga.

  
  
  ungaLukku theriyAdhadhu illa...
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 17 11:34:25 2009.

  Vaamanan
  
  - A movie good enough for Jai
  - Sathanam, shwo stealer..... he comes almost double the scenes for heroine & some 80%
  that of jai's...... total entertainment
  - Heroine looks OK
  - Need to say, Rehman looking better than his "Nilave Malare" days.
  - A fight between 2 groups & Jai between them.... the idea is used from "Kadhanayagan" (I know it is a Malayalam remake)
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 17 11:38:23 2009.

  2nd half of:
  
  MURAI MAMAN
  
  - We miss the director Sundar C .. & this is one of his nicely packaged film
  
  - In one scene, Sundar was there.. & he looks similar as today.. his physique maintenance
  
  - Jeyaram -- yet another example of wasted talent in tamil cinema... whenever he calls his bro in different modulations / emotions like .... annaaaaa... anneee
  
  - No need to say, who is that bro..... Annan Goundamani... padam fulla pinni pedal eduthurupparu
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 17 11:42:35 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  ungaLukku theriyAdhadhu illa...

  
  Podhuva sonnom!
  [Read in the same tone as Vadivel's "Inga pesikitrukkom da"]
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Aug 17 12:00:31 2009.

  From Gounder thread :
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plum wrote: Prabhu Ram wrote: Jaihind in Adithya The very choice to show it on Aditya is a salute to GM Eh? Aditya is a comedy channel. Jaihind is an action film but has come to be classified as a comedy film because, over the years it is the GM-Senthil track that has come to dominate it.

  
  
  PR, same side goal for who is the #1 of any film
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Aug 17 12:03:02 2009.

  app, to be fair, #1 of any film-ngara range-la andha discussion pogalai. Besides, appove aNNan accessory-dhaannu solli pre-empt paNnittaru PR.
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 17 14:49:16 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  app, to be fair, #1 of any film-ngara range-la andha discussion pogalai. Besides, appove aNNan accessory-dhaannu solli pre-empt paNnittaru PR.

  
  
  Yes
  
  Plus in this case I prefer to cut the track out and watch it separately. It is independent of the film (and superior) and in no way 'integral' to the film. The film will exist without him.
  
  Here the 'film' all about Arjun on his usual mission and Charuhasan trying to dance while sitting on the floor.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Aug 17 15:02:30 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Plus in this case I prefer to cut the track out and watch it separately.

  
  
  
  
  Quite often, I wished they release the BGM alone in CD, can listen to it over and over
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Aug 17 21:17:34 2009.

  Kizhakke Pogum Rayil.
  
  Haven't seen this in years...in fact, decades. Interesting to note that K. Bagyaraj has multiple roles, as support actor (very small), assistant director, assistant dialogue writer aaaand...this surprised me....wrote one of the song's lyrics!! Not sure which one.
  
  Annan Gounds has a pretty meaty role, slimy brother in law to Radhika. The way he coos "Panjaali....panjali"
  
  Also early sample of Gounderism.
  
  Vijayan is ex-military/Pattalam. He cautions Gounder in one scene: Ithey kaiyaala aayiram tadava suttirukken!
  
  GM: Enna? Rottiya?
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Aug 18 0:02:53 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  - A fight between 2 groups & Jai between them.... the idea is used from "Kadhanayagan" (I know it is a Malayalam remake)

  
  
  If I'm not mistaken, Saran has tried the same idea in Idhaya Thirudan...unsuccessfully of course
  
  BTW, who's acting in Kadhanayagan?
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 18 0:09:01 2009.

  SV Sekhar and Pandiyarajan. Used to be funny those days. Not sure if the film works now.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Aug 18 0:10:44 2009.

  Abhyium Naanum - didnt like it........
  
  first half was very good with good humour but second half was unintetionally funny with entire cast,crew, director, family trying to prove to prakash raj how great is that sardar character......took it too far i guess.......he could have shown a normal guy who wishes to marry his daughter instead of showing such a larger-than-life character......call from Prime minister ellam rivalled TR movies' logic
  
  the way the family alienates prakash raj to support sardar was a real turn off - daughter wants to marry a sardarji through register marriage and fixes the marriage date herself - ofcourse, the dad would be upset - the director is trying to show possesiveness as the reason for being upset.....EKSI
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Aug 18 2:09:04 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Abhyium Naanum - didnt like it........ first half was very good with good humour

  
  
  I hope you're not referring to the occasional interaction between Prakash Raj and Manobala, which, IMO is too lame to be humorous. On the other hand, I kinda liked the Ravi Shastri joke
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Aug 18 2:15:55 2009.

  Some conversations are very funny!
  
  Not exact...
  
  Aishwarya : Enganga porom?
  
  Prakash : Innaiku namma anniversary-la 5 star hotel poi dinner saapadalam.
  
  Aishwarya : Edhukunga 5 start hotel ellam? Neenga chicken vaangitu vandheenganna naane veetula biriyani panniduven-la, kaasum micham.
  
  Prakash : Cha cha! Ennaiko pannina thappukaaga yedhuku oru uyir-a kola pannanum?
  
  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Aug 18 2:20:32 2009.

  I found Abhiyum Naanum quite funny
  
  
  ammA vechcha model test-la fail aayitteengaLaamE.... ozhunga padinga sir, idhu enga maana prachanai
  
  
  ThalaivAsal Vijay: Capital of Uttar Pradeh
  PrakashRaj: (roll-call style) Lucknow (vetri perumidham smile)
  
  
  Aishwarya: vEgamA pOnga, flight-u late aagudhu
  Prakash Raj: adhukku nee seekkiram kiLambirakkaNum
  Kumaravel: indha vEgathukku naama nEththE kiLambirukkaNum
  
  Kumaravel: 6 TV irukkum saar... sentimentA ovvoru ball ovvoru TV-la pArppEn
  
  

• From: Wibha on Tue Aug 18 4:50:32 2009.

  Mungaru Male- Oh man! this movie makes me cry
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Aug 18 5:34:36 2009.

  Saw Nadodigal Brilliant acting, enjoyable film
  
  Samuthirakani once said that most of the leading actors he approached have rejected the role which eventually went to Sasi Kumar. Looking at the film, I couldn't think of any other actor who would have acted in the role as well as he did. Whether he's playing the caring friend who sacrifices his own life for his friend's happiness or the dejected lover, Sasi was absolutely at ease in the role.
  
  Vijay had a better scope to act here as compared to Chennai 600028 and he made a good use of the chance given. And the guy who played his father was downright funny.
  
  Bharani (of Kallori fame) was a revelation! The scene where he keeps repeating the same phrase to Sasi on the phone, not realizing that he has lost his ability to hear, could bring a lump on your throat Even his comic timing was perfect and his scenes with Kanja Karuppu were to watch for!
  
  As far as the girls are concerned, Malayalam actress Ananya is a delight to watch. Abhinaya is just beautiful. She has acted her role perfectly despite being speech and hearing impaired in real life!
  
  In short, I've enjoyed watching Nadodigal. Hope you guys love it too
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Aug 18 8:45:12 2009.

  Krishna Krishnaa..
  
  color me unimpressed.. sve shekar kithenthu naan innum neraya ethirparkiren..
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 18 12:51:01 2009.

  Watched first half of an unknown movie (atleast for me) of Anjaa nenjan Gounder hero . Movie name 'PiRanthen VaLarnthen' (Sun TV)
  
  Not sure Agila ulaga Anja nenjan fans here discussed this movie
  
  

• From: interz on Wed Aug 19 9:18:34 2009.

  Ainthaam Padai - dont worry, just run away.
  
  Pakka commercial movie, but there's nothing gripping about the story, screenplay, acting, music, visuals.
  
  As usual Sundar C has same face expression. U cant see if he is happy, sad, mad or going to cry. Heroins only purpose is too show much skin. This girl looks very younger .. has she even reached 18?? Simran good act, bad dancing (esp in Shocku Sundara)!
  
  Viveks comedy is funny, his career-graphy is going upwards again.
  
  One song is good, rest are very average. D Imaan, must try work with other actors than just Sundar C and Arjun.
  
  Climax sucks as usual. In masala movies heroes is almost not vulnerable which makes it torture to watch.
  
  This movie must be for hardcore Sundar C or Simran fans only.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Aug 19 9:21:59 2009.

  interz wrote:

  This movie must be for hardcore Sundar C or Simran fans only.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Aug 19 12:50:34 2009.

  The Shawshank Redemption.. (emotions'ku appARpattathu). It's an experience.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Aug 19 12:52:28 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Krishna Krishnaa.. color me unimpressed.. sve shekar kithenthu naan innum neraya ethirparkiren..

  
  
  It is a pretty bad movie, assembled from his plays, which have themselves gone south a lot.
  
  

• From: Querida on Wed Aug 19 18:28:45 2009.

  AudazJay wrote:

  Saw Nadodigal Brilliant acting, enjoyable film

  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Bharani (of Kallori fame) was a revelation! The scene where he keeps repeating the same phrase to Sasi on the phone, not realizing that he has lost his ability to hear, could bring a lump on your throat Even his comic timing was perfect and his scenes with Kanja Karuppu were to watch for!

  
  
  
  
  I really liked this film too...though it got preachy towards the ending...and doubt that the point ever made a lasting impact on those two spoiled brats...even when romeo was relating his love story i was thinking why does such a big shot need help from Sasi and crew? Anyways comedy was good, acting was wow... Ananya's character was a delight!
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Wed Aug 19 21:20:55 2009.

  interz wrote:

  Ainthaam Padai - dont worry, just run away. Pakka commercial movie, but there's nothing gripping about the story, screenplay, acting, music, visuals. As usual Sundar C has same face expression. U cant see if he is happy, sad, mad or going to cry. Heroins only purpose is too show much skin. This girl looks very younger .. has she even reached 18?? Simran good act, bad dancing (esp in Shocku Sundara)! Viveks comedy is funny, his career-graphy is going upwards again. One song is good, rest are very average. D Imaan, must try work with other actors than just Sundar C and Arjun. Climax sucks as usual. In masala movies heroes is almost not vulnerable which makes it torture to watch. This movie must be for hardcore Sundar C or Simran fans only.

  
  
  kadaisi line eluthurappa yethuvum nadaka koodathathu nadanthurucha ???
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Aug 20 5:00:59 2009.

  Nadodigal
  Enna Kodumainga Idhu!
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Aug 20 5:09:30 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Nadodigal Enna Kodumainga Idhu!

  
  
  Yaaay!!!
  
  

• From: Appu s on Thu Aug 20 6:10:46 2009.

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Nadodigal Enna Kodumainga Idhu! Yaaay!!!

  
  
  same blood, definitely an overrated movie, sasi kumar acting.. and the second half...
  
  

• From: interz on Thu Aug 20 10:04:25 2009.

  Tamil nadula Jk Ritheesh, Sam Anderson'ukku fans irukkeke SUndar C'ku irukkakoodatho??
  
  

• From: app_engine on Thu Aug 20 10:12:18 2009.

  interz wrote:

  Tamil nadula Jk Ritheesh, Sam Anderson'ukku fans irukkeke SUndar C'ku irukkakoodatho??

  
  
  அதானே?
  
  வித்யாசாகர் பஸ்ட்டு, ரஹ்மான் செகண்டு'ன்னெல்லாம் சொல்ல ஆள் இருக்கும்போது, சுந்தர் சி'க்கு விசிறிக்கா பஞ்சம்?
  
  (தமிழ் நாட்டுல ஒரு அம்மணிக்குக்கோயில் கட்டினாங்க, அவங்களே இவுருக்கு விசிறிக்கிட்டு இருக்காங்க தெரியுமா? )
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Aug 20 10:29:55 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  interz wrote: Tamil nadula Jk Ritheesh, Sam Anderson'ukku fans irukkeke SUndar C'ku irukkakoodatho?? அதானே? வித்யாசாகர் பஸ்ட்டு, ரஹ்மான் செகண்டு'ன்னெல்லாம் சொல்ல ஆள் இருக்கும்போது, சுந்தர் சி'க்கு விசிறிக்கா பஞ்சம்?

  
  
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Aug 20 12:23:59 2009.

  Watching Raam.
  
  1st half is really good!
  
  Jeeva
  
  G. Karuppu
  
  Yuvan's music
  
  

• From: interz on Thu Aug 20 14:40:01 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  interz wrote: Tamil nadula Jk Ritheesh, Sam Anderson'ukku fans irukkeke SUndar C'ku irukkakoodatho?? அதானே? வித்யாசாகர் பஸ்ட்டு, ரஹ்மான் செகண்டு'ன்னெல்லாம் சொல்ல ஆள் இருக்கும்போது, சுந்தர் சி'க்கு விசிறிக்கா பஞ்சம்? (தமிழ் நாட்டுல ஒரு அம்மணிக்குக்கோயில் கட்டினாங்க, அவங்களே இவுருக்கு விசிறிக்கிட்டு இருக்காங்க தெரியுமா? )

  
  
  ENna nakkala...each fans have different preferences.. u can laugh, but u cant change their mind.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Thu Aug 20 21:30:01 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Nadodigal Enna Kodumainga Idhu!

  
  
  I think it would have worked (for you) in big screen just like Saroja...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 20 22:55:00 2009.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Nadodigal Enna Kodumainga Idhu! I think it would have worked (for you) in big screen just like Saroja...

  
  
  ah no, i watched it in big screen, i was laughing at all the wrong places...........i almost got hit by other people who were watching it with so much interest......
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Thu Aug 20 23:05:49 2009.

  Especially the scene in which the heroine's father urges to his room to commit suicide.. Literally i was inside the theatre..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 20 23:09:07 2009.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Especiay the scene in which the heroine's father urges to his room to commit suicide.. Literally i was inside the theatre..

  
  
  yea, all his scenes were laughable.......infact the whole movie was a laugh riot
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Aug 20 23:30:23 2009.

  I found Nadodigal far better than Saroja
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Aug 20 23:33:22 2009.

  Nadodigal-a TVla sample paakumbodhe enaku purinjidhuchu...
  
  especially sasikumars terripic acting...and aakroshamana "friendship" "lou" dialaaks
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Aug 20 23:34:30 2009.

  oh come on... it aint as bad as u guys make it out to be
  
  aadu meikkira payyanukku.....
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Aug 20 23:36:27 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  it aint as bad as u guys make it out to be

  
  
  
  It is not a great movie ..But definitely worth a watch.
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Aug 20 23:48:52 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  oh come on... it aint as bad as u guys make it out to be aadu meikkira payyanukku.....

  
  
  Padam nallathan irunthathu. Inthe padame bad na, Indira Vizha, Aintham Padai, Anthony yaar ellam enthe list-le serkarathu?
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 20 23:52:34 2009.

  Joe, freeya vittudunga. to each his own.
  
  for me NK and Nadodigal are the best films of the year.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Aug 20 23:56:58 2009.

  joe wrote:

  I found Nadodigal far better than Saroja

  
  
  me too - i didnt laugh as much for saroja even .....
  
  

  Quote:

  Inthe padame bad na, Indira Vizha, Aintham Padai, Anthony yaar ellam enthe list-le serkarathu?

  
  
  paathuttu dhaan sollanum......
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 0:04:09 2009.

  Btw ,Nadodigal-la villian-a nadichathu Jayam Ravi appava?
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Aug 21 0:34:44 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Btw ,Nadodigal-la villian-a nadichathu Jayam Ravi appava?

  
  
  Jayam Ravi's dad is Editor Mohan. The name of the actor in Nadodigal is Jayaprakash.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 0:42:22 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  joe wrote: Btw ,Nadodigal-la villian-a nadichathu Jayam Ravi appava? Jayam Ravi's dad is Editor Mohan. The name of the actor in Nadodigal is Jayaprakash.

  
  
  oh!Thanks.
  
  For me he looks like editor mohan
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Aug 21 0:43:38 2009.

  'Pasanga' padam paartheengala Joe? Adhulaiyum ivar irukkar.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 0:46:13 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  'Pasanga' padam paartheengala Joe? Adhulaiyum ivar irukkar.

  
  
  oho !that teacher! ithula thaadi vachirukkathala udane theriyalla ..But i was thinking "engiyo paathirukkome " ,then thought it may be editor mohan gave a guest appearance.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Aug 21 0:48:07 2009.

  Avareydhaan
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Aug 21 2:35:25 2009.

  Nadodigal opposers, why tungsten ?!? majority of ppl see that as a decent timepass. thatsall.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 21 4:04:55 2009.

  Nadodigal
  
  Friendship/Love: I can understand Sasikumar and his gang would be absolutely wild after they come to know about *the way* things have unfolded. And "friend-kaaga ivvalavu pannuvaangala?" I'm willing to buy it (naanga ellam Surya-Deva family ) even though it is strethced too far here and there. Matra padi neraya araajagangal, none more than these guys going for it again in the climax.
  
  The humor in the first half didn't work for me. The love/romances certainly didn't. In fact, the cutesy thavani heroines are turning out to be a menace. And yeah, the in your face, Raaja salutes are getting repetitive and i wish they stop doing it or do it differently. I was in C-28 and Saroja for those scenes but in S'puram and Nadodigal it didn't work. In a different sense, the "Un Parvayil" homage was magical in Kalloori.
  
  The post-marriage conflict was Inga yerkanave PR/Maddy ellam sonna madhiri card-board "cuttings" madhiri thideernu characters ellam balti adichu maarraanga...
  
  Madurai, accent, morattu thaadi hero (or pammura thaadi hero), cutesy kurumbu thavani heroine - idhellam innum konjam round varum pola irukku!
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Aug 21 4:08:02 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  In a different sense, the "Un Parvayil" homage was magical in Kalloori.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 21 4:11:43 2009.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Nadodigal Enna Kodumainga Idhu! I think it would have worked (for you) in big screen just like Saroja...

  
  Therlanga, for many films i prefer the comfort and benefits of watching it in my DVD player/laptop (naan ellam late pickup). Not sure if watching it in the big screen would have made any difference.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 5:57:45 2009.

  CR,
  ஒரு வேளை 'நாடோடிகள்' நீங்க ரொம்ப எதிர்பார்த்து பார்த்தீங்களோ என்னவோ ? அதனால எனக்கு 'சரோஜா' -க்கு நடந்தது உங்களுக்கு 'நாடோடிகள்'-க்கு நடந்திருக்கலாம்.
  
  தாவணி போட்ட துடுக்கான மாமன் பொண்ணு மாதிரி சில புளித்துப் போன சமாச்சாரங்கள் இருப்பதை மறுப்பதற்கில்லை .மொத்தத்தில் சிறந்த படம் என்ற பட்டியலில் இதை சேர்ப்பதற்கில்லை என்றாலும் , பார்ப்பதற்கே லாயக்கில்லாத படம் என வெட்டி விடும் அளவுக்கு தமிழ் சினிமாவில் அவ்வளவு மாற்று தெரிவுகள் மலிந்திருப்பதாக நான் நினைக்கவில்லை.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 21 6:02:03 2009.

  பார்த்து, சில இடங்களில் களித்து, மொத்தமாக புறந்தள்ளப்படவேண்டிய படம். வெற்றிகர ஓட்டத்தைத் தவிற, 'சிறப்பான படம்' என்றும் பாராட்டுகளை இப்படம் பெற்றுக்கொண்டு இருப்பதால் எதிர்வினையும் கொஞ்சம் கடுமை.. அவ்வளவு தான்.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 21 6:06:31 2009.

  Watched the poNaNthinni assault scene from Paruthiveeran
  The ease of the characters is something the slew of recent/moffusil films have just not managed to achieve as well as PV, IMO.
  
  செவ்வாழை:: சும்மா போய்யா....அள் இல்லைங்கிறதுக்காக நீ என்ன வேணா பேசுவியா
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Aug 21 6:09:44 2009.

  cardboard character ellam ok, character ulpada oru mannum illaama pala padangal ithaivida nallaa oduthe, forex - kathalil vizhunthen.
  
  as joe said, the success of nadodigal was mainly becos of "no other good choice" type. media hype on this movie is konjam over thaan.
  
  media
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Aug 21 6:11:41 2009.

  paruthiveeran - nativity romba thookkala irukkum, entha alavukkunaa sila idangalil vasaname puriyaathu!
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 21 6:12:07 2009.

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  cardboard character ellam ok, character ulpada oru mannum illaama pala padangal ithaivida nallaa oduthe, forex - kathalil vizhunthen.

  
  
  No one bothers about those movies.
  
  Nadodigal paathuttu 'the future of Tamil cinema...' appidinnu article aarambikkiraanga.. adhaan kaduppAyirudhu.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 6:13:14 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  வெற்றிகர ஓட்டத்தைத் தவிற, 'சிறப்பான படம்' என்றும் பாராட்டுகளை இப்படம் பெற்றுக்கொண்டு இருப்பதால் எதிர்வினையும் கொஞ்சம் கடுமை.. அவ்வளவு தான்.

  
  
  ஏற்றுக்கொள்ளுகிறேன்.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Aug 21 6:13:27 2009.

  Ellam sari, who is that 4th guy in the Nadodigal movie? Romba paavama dialogue-y pesama suthikitu irrupaar!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 21 6:14:27 2009.

  joe wrote:

  CR, ஒரு வேளை 'நாடோடிகள்' நீங்க ரொம்ப எதிர்பார்த்து பார்த்தீங்களோ என்னவோ ? அதனால எனக்கு 'சரோஜா' -க்கு நடந்தது உங்களுக்கு 'நாடோடிகள்'-க்கு நடந்திருக்கலாம்.

  
  Saroja was a bit of a disappointment for me too. Loved the comedy in that, though
  
  

  joe wrote:

  தாவணி போட்ட துடுக்கான மாமன் பொண்ணு மாதிரி சில புளித்துப் போன சமாச்சாரங்கள் இருப்பதை மறுப்பதற்கில்லை

  
  Just a clarification here... Ennamo matra padangal-la pulithuppona vishayangal illama illa. Head-strong daughter of rich villain dhaan ella padathulayum romba varshama vandhutrukku, adhukku compare panna idhu pudhusu dhaan but general a pathomna oru herd mentality. 90s la climax oriented college love stories, ippo bearded rough hero set in Madurai etc..
  
  

  Quote:

  பார்ப்பதற்கே லாயக்கில்லாத படம் என வெட்டி விடும் அளவுக்கு தமிழ் சினிமாவில் அவ்வளவு மாற்று தெரிவுகள் மலிந்திருப்பதாக நான் நினைக்கவில்லை

  
  பார்க்காம இருந்தா பெருசா எதையும் miss பண்ணப்போரதில்ல-னு சொல்லலாம் - ரொம்ப சுமார்.
  The irritating apsect is that directors think, irrespective of the content, if these elements are there, (including தாவணி போட்ட துடுக்கான மாமன் பொண்ணு), the film will be successful. The argument is "item song, double meaning illadha kudumba padam etc". As though if these elements are not there it is automatically going to be a good film
  
  P.S: Saw some clippings of the movie "Eesa" -
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 6:19:29 2009.

  CR,
  நீங்க சொல்லுற எல்லாம் எனக்கு 'பசங்க' படத்துக்கும் தோணிச்சு ..சின்ன பசங்க கதையை எடுத்தாலே சிறந்த படம் -ன்னு எல்லோரும் கொண்டாடுன மாதிரி இருந்துச்சு ..எனக்கு அந்த அளவு சுவாரஸ்யமா இருக்கல்ல.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 21 6:24:29 2009.

  joe wrote:

  CR, நீங்க சொல்லுற எல்லாம் எனக்கு 'பசங்க' படத்துக்கும் தோணிச்சு ..சின்ன பசங்க கதையை எடுத்தாலே சிறந்த படம் -ன்னு எல்லோரும் கொண்டாடுன மாதிரி இருந்துச்சு ..எனக்கு அந்த அளவு சுவாரஸ்யமா இருக்கல்ல.

  
  எனக்கும் படம் ஓஹோ-னு இல்லாட்டாலும் ஒரு அளவுக்கு பிடிச்சிருந்துச்சு but yes i guess it was hyped ("critically")
  
  P.S: There was a big Anjali vs Pasanga fight here
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 21 6:25:29 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  P.S: Saw some clippings of the movie "Eesa" -

  
  
  I think the title is 'ஈஸா' ,not 'ஈசா' ,which means 'ஈசன்' ..'ஈஸா' is a islamic term usually refers to Jesus Christ.
  
  Ithukkum yaaravathu pirachanai pannama irukkaNum
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Aug 21 6:37:22 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  In a different sense, the "Un Parvayil" homage was magical in Kalloori.

  
  It is something else, Bala. (Much disappointing as the film was, there are some very well done sequences in the film. I for one actually wished the film had more of the love between the lead pair, which is something I can't say of most Tamil films!) Since then, I think most other films have made a joke out of reusing old songs.
  
  Though, specifically in terms of paying homage to Raaja, I think the small-town films fare relatively better than the urban films, though both representations are quite poor. In the small-town films, the songs are portrayed as simply part of the folklore, and it doesn't invoke Raaja as some kind of old-world relic. (Most films don't even explicitly mention Raaja, which is as it should be.) On the other hand, in films like 'sarvam', the Raaja references are as if the film is treading into some kind of obscure territory, which is so not the case!
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 21 6:48:42 2009.

  joe wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: P.S: Saw some clippings of the movie "Eesa" - I think the title is 'ஈஸா' ,not 'ஈசா' ,which means 'ஈசன்' ..'ஈஸா' is a islamic term usually refers to Jesus Christ. Ithukkum yaaravathu pirachanai pannama irukkaNum

  
  
  அஹா...
  
  I can already see a magazine article with the last lines..
  
  இதற்கு முன் இதே விக்னேஷ் நடித்த அப்துல்ராமன் என்ற படம் ராமனின் அடிமை என்ற பொருள்வரும்படி இருந்ததால் ராமன் அப்துல்லா என்று மாற்றப்பட்டது நினைவு கூறத்தக்கது
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Fri Aug 21 9:53:49 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  joe wrote: CR, நீங்க சொல்லுற எல்லாம் எனக்கு 'பசங்க' படத்துக்கும் தோணிச்சு ..சின்ன பசங்க கதையை எடுத்தாலே சிறந்த படம் -ன்னு எல்லோரும் கொண்டாடுன மாதிரி இருந்துச்சு ..எனக்கு அந்த அளவு சுவாரஸ்யமா இருக்கல்ல. எனக்கும் படம் ஓஹோ-னு இல்லாட்டாலும் ஒரு அளவுக்கு பிடிச்சிருந்துச்சு but yes i guess it was hyped ("critically") P.S: There was a big Anjali vs Pasanga fight here

  
  
  AdadE... Miss pannittenE...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Aug 22 23:58:18 2009.

  how to lose a guy in 10 days - simple yet beautiful ......
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 5:11:43 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: cardboard character ellam ok, character ulpada oru mannum illaama pala padangal ithaivida nallaa oduthe, forex - kathalil vizhunthen. No one bothers about those movies. Nadodigal paathuttu 'the future of Tamil cinema...' appidinnu article aarambikkiraanga.. adhaan kaduppAyirudhu.

  
  Seriously. indha Post-modern AsAmigaL kooda romba kashtam..
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  joe wrote: CR, நீங்க சொல்லுற எல்லாம் எனக்கு 'பசங்க' படத்துக்கும் தோணிச்சு ..சின்ன பசங்க கதையை எடுத்தாலே சிறந்த படம் -ன்னு எல்லோரும் கொண்டாடுன மாதிரி இருந்துச்சு ..எனக்கு அந்த அளவு சுவாரஸ்யமா இருக்கல்ல. எனக்கும் படம் ஓஹோ-னு இல்லாட்டாலும் ஒரு அளவுக்கு பிடிச்சிருந்துச்சு but yes i guess it was hyped ("critically") P.S: There was a big Anjali vs Pasanga fight here

  
  
  For JFC's sake....
  Vadivelu: EN dA?
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:15:11 2009.

  Courtesy: The BPL TV we have which is older than me and the Cable TV operators who make this possible for 75 bucks a month. Wish karO dishwash karO ellAm thEvaye illa.
  
  Sullan: Didn't expect such a (vArthaiyE kedaikala) pheelings. Terrifying experience. Dhanush's dialogues were elephant stamping on the chest level.
  
  ட்டும் ட்டும் ட்டும்: (The way Sun TV's announcer pronounces it) Accent murdered. Madhavan kadaisiyA looked handsome in this movie. Jyo was terrible.
  
  Saroja: Thoroughly entertaining. COpied or whatever, who cares? "I was helpless, I was cornered"
  
  Kaaka Kaaka: Kuppai.. except for some sequences involving Pandya. pAttu ellAm
  
  Middleclass Madhavan: TPG was irritating in the middle of the fun. Vadivelu-Vivek combo rocks as usual.
  
  Thalapathi: IR is God. P.C.Shreeram thAn camera vA? Awesome.. Frikkin awesome..!
  
  Ghajini: Nayan rocks. Nayan's rocks rock. (Sorry for the single entendre... mudeela)
  
  Shah Jahan: Title-E solludhu, padam ennA range thinking-nu. I even hate Vivek's stupid track in the movie.
  
  Varalaaru: Top class entertainer. Surya fans ellAm avasiyam pArka vENdiya padam. Next Dheena pArkaNum.
  
  Neranja manasu, Nadodi Mannan, Village (dhamizil) etc. miss Ayiduchu. Next Spiderman-I and Dheena simultaneously. Bye!
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 10:24:20 2009.

  Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan.
  
  The other movie of that combo is Iruvar
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:26:53 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan. The other movie of that combo is Iruvar

  
  
  The scenes which involved Sun.. symbolism and all that were captured very well... romba pidichidhu.. Music pathi sollavE thEvayilla..
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 23 10:32:07 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Varalaaru: Top class entertainer. Surya fans ellAm avasiyam pArka vENdiya padam. Next Dheena pArkaNum.

  
  
  

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Kaaka Kaaka: Kuppai.. except for some sequences involving Pandya. pAttu ellAm

  
  venki, nee thEraadha case, kai kazhivida vEndiyadhu thaan
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 10:32:47 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan. The other movie of that combo is Iruvar The scenes which involved Sun.. symbolism and all that were captured very well... romba pidichidhu.. Music pathi sollavE thEvayilla..

  
  
  I like santhosh sivans cinematography more than pc srirams.
  
  Roja(in chinna chinna aasai,there is a shot where a boatman moves across the river between the hills for "elelo..elelo"arr humming...semaya irukkum),Thalapathi and iruvar
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:33:46 2009.

  Forgot to add in the list:
  
  SMS. paravAyilla.. Santhanam's sake.
  Gaja-gaja... Harry-potter vaaya... sembatta mandaya
  Cellphone sequences,
  Air-hostess-na Aeroplane-la sarakkaiyellam half-rateku vikkuravanga thaana...
  thirupathikku ticketu
  So many mokka one-liners as well.. He's the only consolation among the people who are trying now.
  
  PV. In high regards.
  
  pala padangaL pArthathula marandhu marandhu pOguthu. Will update whenever I get reminded. So, my conclusion is Don't watch Kandhasaamy in theatres. nichayam Deepavali-ku pOduvAnga, illa pongalukkAvadhu pOduvAnga.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:37:52 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Varalaaru: Top class entertainer. Surya fans ellAm avasiyam pArka vENdiya padam. Next Dheena pArkaNum. VENKIRAJA wrote: Kaaka Kaaka: Kuppai.. except for some sequences involving Pandya. pAttu ellAm venki, nee thEraadha case, kai kazhivida vEndiyadhu thaan

  
  
  Watched Billa also. Just imagine Surya in the role. He can't have matched it. (Opening, collection-la kooda) neenga purinjikittAlum purinjikkAdha mAdhiriyE pEsuveenga. Ajith doesn't feel like he is trying hard to bring what he wants. He can never dance (othukuvOm) but look at Ullasam.. reNdu moonu scene-la epdi ferfaamamns. namba vaikkaNum.
  
  Senthil (I yaam thAn): Hallo naan unga kitta pEsala...
  GM (NOV): nAn un kitta thAn pEsuREn..
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Sun Aug 23 10:39:12 2009.

  Quote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Varalaaru: Top class entertainer. Surya fans ellAm avasiyam pArka vENdiya padam. Next Dheena pArkaNum.

  
  
  Read-between-lines problem???
  He clearly said top-class-entertainer... Didn't say top class or class movie...
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 23 10:40:42 2009.

  venki, vittudu - unakku varalaru is top class, kaakka kaakka is kuppai. idhukku mela pEsuradhula point illa.
  
  thalafanz, I have no time for fanatics
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 23 10:41:55 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan. The other movie of that combo is Iruvar

  
  
  i believe roja too - well it doesent matter who is the cameraman in mani's movie, quality is the same .......watched pudhupettai y;day, remba kettu poitten reading brangan blogs and thought selvaraghavan is more talented than mani Mani is a league of his own .....
  
  well, i too rivalled venki today in terms of watching movies
  
  started with puratchi thalaivar's nadodi mannan - badly cut by raj tv ads ...........direction, attention to details, multiple threads/knots - puratchi thalaivar is one of the best cinematic brains......
  
  varalaaru and saroja simultaneously -
  saroja - neat but thriller part was a bit of let down.....too much of stretch.......premji rocked .....venkat prabhu is a major hope for me in tamil now.....
  
  varalaaru - thala show all the way......scene after interval and entire psyco character is brilliant acting.....wish he was son of some yesteryear hero......
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:42:53 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  neenga purinjikittAlum purinjikkAdha mAdhiriyE pEsuveenga.

  
  
  

  Thalafanz wrote:

  Quote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Varalaaru: Top class entertainer. Surya fans ellAm avasiyam pArka vENdiya padam. Next Dheena pArkaNum. Read-between-lines problem??? He clearly said top-class-entertainer... Didn't say top class or class movie...

  
  
  nAn sollala...
  athAn indha Surya matter-la nAma kalandhu AlOsikkAmaikku irukkuRadhE better-u
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Aug 23 10:45:59 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  varalaaru - thala show all the way......scene after interval and entire psyco character is brilliant acting.....wish he was son of some yesteryear hero......

  
  
  ultimate..
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 23 10:46:17 2009.

  venki, I dont have a problem talking abt things to you and maddy. despite our differences, you know where to draw the line and basic respect is always kept. thats why I can kid with both of you easily.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:47:01 2009.

  Thanks Maddy... nAnum pudhupEttai pArthEn. You should've watched Sullan in the evening to have got a clear opinion.
  
  ennatha telecast paNNAinga? Loosu pasanga punching the villain's bro scene-E cut. ithula ennatha? nalla vELai variyA pAttu ellAm vandhuchu... Sneha's second best. Everything in the movie happens just because Selva found Darwin;s theory too interesting after watching Godfather and Cidade de deus.. Still, one of the darkest movies made in Tamil, without a doubt. Quite incidentally, Thalapathi-la Sun.. PP-layum adhE mAdhiri.. Sun/Moon ellAm... Both adaptations/tributes/vagaiyaraa. Interesting...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 10:47:04 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan. The other movie of that combo is Iruvar i believe roja too

  
  
  yeah yeah...But santhosh sivan is my fav among manis cinematographers..
  
  as i posted in earlier...the cinematography for "elelo ele eleleo" humming in chinna chinna aasai...i watch that song whenever they telecast in TV just for that interlude portion(motha paatume sooper apdingradhu vera vishayam)...arr humming and beautiful cinematography...apdiye jillunnu irukkum.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Sun Aug 23 10:48:15 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  thalafanz, I have no time for fanatics

  
  
  Even I have no time for particular actors' hardcore haters (who pretend to world as if they are neutrals and welcome good acting blah blah bulls**t but in reality it's a different matter altogether)...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:49:23 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  venki, I dont have a problem talking abt things to you and maddy. despite our differences, you know where to draw the line and basic respect is always kept. thats why I can kid with both of you easily.

  
  
  Getting reminded of Devar Magan Nasar's confrontation against Devar. edhukku rishku?
  
  (Jest kidding)
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 23 10:49:55 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  as i posted in earlier...the cinematography for "elelo ele eleleo" humming in chinna chinna aasai...i watch that song whenever they telecast in TV just for that interlude portion(motha paatume sooper apdingradhu vera vishayam)...arr humming and beautiful cinematography...apdiye jillunnu irukkum.

  yeah, lovely interlude.. so good that SAR used it as the tune for rosaappoo chinna rosaappoo which was in turn copied into hindi
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Aug 23 10:51:09 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Thalapathi cinematography is by santhosh sivan. The other movie of that combo is Iruvar i believe roja too - well it doesent matter who is the cameraman in mani's movie, quality is the same .......watched pudhupettai y;day, remba kettu poitten reading brangan blogs and thought selvaraghavan is more talented than mani Mani is a league of his own ..... well, i too rivalled venki today in terms of watching movies started with puratchi thalaivar's nadodi mannan - badly cut by raj tv ads ...........direction, attention to details, multiple threads/knots - puratchi thalaivar is one of the best cinematic brains...... varalaaru and saroja simultaneously - saroja - neat but thriller part was a bit of let down.....too much of stretch.......premji rocked .....venkat prabhu is a major hope for me in tamil now..... varalaaru - thala show all the way......scene after interval and entire psyco character is brilliant acting.....wish he was son of some yesteryear hero......

  
  
  Maddy.. You easily forgot Dilse
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Sun Aug 23 10:51:15 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  watched pudhupettai y;day, remba kettu poitten reading brangan blogs and thought selvaraghavan is more talented than mani Mani is a league of his own .....

  
  
  Whattt... UNggalai Mani sir club-la irunthu oru vAram talli vaikkurEn... Suspended...
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Aug 23 10:52:17 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: as i posted in earlier...the cinematography for "elelo ele eleleo" humming in chinna chinna aasai...i watch that song whenever they telecast in TV just for that interlude portion(motha paatume sooper apdingradhu vera vishayam)...arr humming and beautiful cinematography...apdiye jillunnu irukkum. yeah, lovely interlude.. so good that SAR used it as the tune for rosaappoo chinna rosaappoo which was in turn copied into hindi

  
  
  NOV, ur music sense is amazing. Ippothaan naanum note panrean..
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 10:55:31 2009.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  MADDY wrote: watched pudhupettai y;day, remba kettu poitten reading brangan blogs and thought selvaraghavan is more talented than mani Mani is a league of his own ..... Whattt... UNggalai Mani sir club-la irunthu oru vAram talli vaikkurEn... Suspended...

  
  
  Blogs are a serious distraction. remba sariya sonneenga Maddy..
  
  Tried to watch AE in Telugu (Jangaraj scenes ellAm sssaabbha) and RDB without Subs...(mm hmm..) in addition.
  
  BTW, Why didn't movie channels succeed like Music/Comedy clips channels? Jaya kooda oru Nework vachirundhaanga.. why only KTV in Tamil?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 23 10:59:15 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Thanks Maddy... nAnum pudhupEttai pArthEn. You should've watched Sullan in the evening to have got a clear opinion. ennatha telecast paNNAinga? Loosu pasanga punching the villain's bro scene-E cut. ithula ennatha? nalla vELai variyA pAttu ellAm vandhuchu... Sneha's second best. Everything in the movie happens just because Selva found Darwin;s theory too interesting after watching Godfather and Cidade de deus.. Still, one of the darkest movies made in Tamil, without a doubt. Quite incidentally, Thalapathi-la Sun.. PP-layum adhE mAdhiri.. Sun/Moon ellAm... Both adaptations/tributes/vagaiyaraa. Interesting...

  
  
  yes, lots of cuts - i mean its kiddish, parents have to stop their kids from watching it instead we got parenting from tv broadcaster ......the thing i found "lesser than mani" in pudhupettai was selva couldnt convey things cut to the point like mani, too much of stretching and raw depictions to drive home the point.....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 10:59:25 2009.

  KK and varalaru..rendume mokkathaan...
  
  Varalaru - ajith,arr and asin
  
  kk - surya and music
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:04:15 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  yes, lots of cuts - i mean its kiddish, parents have to stop their kids from watching it instead we got parenting from tv broadcaster ......the thing i found "lesser than mani" in pudhupettai was selva couldnt convey things cut to the point like mani, too much of stretching and raw depictions to drive home the point.....

  
  
  adhAn AO bayamA irukku.. romba pizhinjiruvaaro-nnu... pAvam GVP ellAm uzhachirukkApla.. Distributors ellArum bayappadurAngaLAMA..
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:05:43 2009.

  Parts of Saroja
  
  Venkat Prabhu: anga oru maram irukku
  Premji: periya aala maramA
  
  Premji: neenga goltinu dhaan andha poNNu vEnaaniduchA ?
  P1: naan goltinu avaLukku eppidi theriyum
  
  Premji: saar saar....andha pakkam pudingaLEn (clutching the chain and requesting for an impromptu see-saw)
  
  Premji: (tense moment, twitches with an abandoned machine with switches) toing toing...toing toing
  
  ada pOngappA....Premji is hilarious.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 23 11:07:47 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  BTW, Why didn't movie channels succeed like Music/Comedy clips channels? Jaya kooda oru Nework vachirundhaanga.. why only KTV in Tamil?

  
  
  clarity - avanga 80's dabba padam kooda sema clarity-la poduraanga.....
  
  

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Blogs are a serious distraction. remba sariya sonneenga Maddy..

  
  
  

  Thalafanz wrote:

  Whattt... UNggalai Mani sir club-la irunthu oru vAram talli vaikkurEn... Suspended

  
  
  munna thavarinen, ini thavara maatten
  
  

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Maddy.. You easily forgot Dilse

  
  
  ayyyaayooo - deiva kuthham aaiduchhe......night-la saami kanna kuthha pogudhu
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:11:29 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Parts of Saroja Venkat Prabhu: anga oru maram irukku Premji: periya aala maramA Premji: neenga goltinu dhaan andha poNNu vEnaaniduchA ? P1: naan goltinu avaLukku eppidi theriyum Premji: saar saar....andha pakkam pudingaLEn (clutching the chain and requesting for an impromptu see-saw) Premji: (tense moment, twitches with an abandoned machine with switches) toing toing...toing toing ada pOngappA....Premji is hilarious.

  
  
  His sheshtaigaL are funny... Even when the telgu fellow is singing some song.. his facial expression is damn hilarious.. Also
  endha ticketu? Hyderabad-la Naidu Babu-nu oruthar kitta...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 11:11:40 2009.

  Pudhupetai - dhanush
  
  summa solla koodadhu..pirichu menjirukan actingla..
  
  yuvan sammandhame illa BGM potrukapla neraya edathula...
  
  selva - the movie had great moments... sila scenes comedy...
  
  embuttu cut-u?
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:13:04 2009.

  Parts of padikkadhavan... initial scenes.. some 40 mins till my birathar.. acting.. The peter: "Sh|t!"
  
  And the amazing voice of TMS.. "oru kootu kiLiyAga.."
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Aug 23 11:17:22 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Parts of padikkadhavan... initial scenes.. some 40 mins till my birathar.. acting.. The peter: "Sh|t!" And the amazing voice of TMS.. "oru kootu kiLiyAga.."

  
  
  Oooh old padikathvan eh..Got confused for a moment
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Aug 23 11:17:30 2009.

  Baasha -
  
  Chanceless.. Ultimate.
  
  the dialogue i love most
  
  "innoru thadava intha pakkam unnai paathen, paattha edathulaye kuzhi tondi potachiduven"
  
  podaskie solra mathiri semma mass..
  
  of course raghuvaran was awesome as mark andaani.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:20:44 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  Oooh old padikathvan eh..Got confused for a moment

  
  
  
  Just as I was worried..
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Sun Aug 23 11:20:49 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Baasha -

  
  
  I heard intha padathukku Ipoh theatre-la Maadu ellAm kondu vanthu saamy kumbittAnunggalAm... FDFS I suppose...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:22:51 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Parts of padikkadhavan... initial scenes.. some 40 mins till my birathar.. acting.. The peter: "Sh|t!" And the amazing voice of TMS.. "oru kootu kiLiyAga.." Oooh old padikathvan eh..Got confused for a moment

  
  
  
  nAnum same confusion-la thAn channel vachen.. with the strip news in Sun TV
  
  Watch 2001's review on Makkal TV...!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 23 11:24:05 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Parts of padikkadhavan... initial scenes.. some 40 mins till my birathar.. acting.. The peter: "Sh|t!" And the amazing voice of TMS.. "oru kootu kiLiyAga.."

  
  
  Oru koottu kiLiyAga is by Malaysia Vasudevan not TMS.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:26:12 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Watch 2001's review on Makkal TV...!

  
  
  enna sonnAinga ?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 23 11:26:23 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Mahen wrote: Oooh old padikathvan eh..Got confused for a moment Just as I was worried..

  
  
  yea - wanted to watch Dhanush-polladhavan and ended up watching rajini-polladhavan once
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:28:47 2009.

  Watched the courtroom scene when Sivaji comes to know the truth. Poor acting by Sivaji...yaarumE kEkka mAttAinga pOla. OTOH Rajni is very good.
  
  Channel mAththittEn
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 11:31:21 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Watch 2001's review on Makkal TV...! enna sonnAinga ?

  
  
  erkanave nammoorla makkaltvya oru naalu perthaan pakurainga...
  
  Got DVD of 2001 for rental and gave it to my hostel friends before watching...hubla sonnadha vechu..."padam sooper"...paarungadanu sollitu vandhen
  
  adutha naal avinga kudutha reaction irukke...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:38:32 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Watch 2001's review on Makkal TV...! enna sonnAinga ? erkanave nammoorla makkaltvya oru naalu perthaan pakurainga... Got DVD of 2001 for rental and gave it to my hostel friends before watching...hubla sonnadha vechu..."padam sooper"...paarungadanu sollitu vandhen adutha naal avinga kudutha reaction irukke...

  
  
  I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans)
  
  Back to TF..
  Rajnikanth's acting when he meets Jaishankar in Thalapathi... the whole scene is a treat. Music/Camera angles/Dialogue... adEngappA! Even in padikkadhavan, the scene where he beats both brothers and emotes... though he reminds of 6-60...
  
  TMS-Oda last pAttunu mummy sonnAinga.. illayA? Even I felt like Old TMS...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 23 11:38:52 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Watched the courtroom scene when Sivaji comes to know the truth. Poor acting by Sivaji...yaarumE kEkka mAttAinga pOla. OTOH Rajni is very good. Channel mAththittEn

  
  
  
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:39:38 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  hubla sonnadha vechu..."padam sooper"...paarungadanu sollitu vandhen adutha naal avinga kudutha reaction irukke...

  
  
  Mishtake... You faar mishtake...
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun Aug 23 11:41:11 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  OTOH Rajni is very good.

  
  
  
  An hour of pokkisham. Rembbba sulow and very amateurish. Aanaalum naan full-A pAthuruvEn. MayakkannAdikku slightly better-nu thONudhu.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 23 11:41:32 2009.

  Quote:

  I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans)

  
  
  Will catch it if everything falls in place (sofa vacant, remote free et all). Timings?
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:46:15 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Quote: I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans) Will catch it if everything falls in place (sofa vacant, remote free et all). Timings?

  
  
  I have usually caught International film on weekday afternoons.
  Russian series running now. Suddenly an anchor talks and capsules parts of the movie !! Kinda annoying.
  
  The only film I have watched fully is the classic 'Ballad of aSoldier'
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 23 11:48:42 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  kid-glove wrote: Quote: I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans) Will catch it if everything falls in place (sofa vacant, remote free et all). Timings? I have usually caught International film on weekday afternoons. Russian series running now. Suddenly an anchor talks and capsules parts of the movie !! Kinda annoying.

  
  
  Weekday afternoon?
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:50:17 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Quote: I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans) Will catch it if everything falls in place (sofa vacant, remote free et all). Timings?

  
  
  evvaLavO paNROm.. idha paNNamAttamA? Its nothing great.. but quite good for Haalivud paarvai types.
  ada neengaLA.. nAn animated GIF avatar vachu Raiks-nu nenachen...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 11:51:34 2009.

  Sunday 8 pm I think. I have watched some silent movie reviews before 6 months- last sem vacations... ippO ellAm follow paNradhilla..
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Aug 23 11:51:53 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: kid-glove wrote: Quote: I like that show. appapa pArpEn... Kubrick, Fellini, Bergman padam scenes ellAm pOduvAnga. He won't spoil it for us but give IMDb style info on the movie. Very light and makes us watch the movie. (But 2001 climax pOtAn..never casted climax of any movie AFAIK... naansans) Will catch it if everything falls in place (sofa vacant, remote free et all). Timings? I have usually caught International film on weekday afternoons. Russian series running now. Suddenly an anchor talks and capsules parts of the movie !! Kinda annoying. Weekday afternoon?

  
  
  Sorry I meant weekend afternoons
  
  Post lunch...doze time
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 23 12:01:01 2009.

  Thanks PR and Venki!
  

  Quote:

  Post lunch...doze time

  
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Aug 23 13:30:13 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  An hour of pokkisham. Rembbba sulow and very amateurish. Aanaalum naan full-A pAthuruvEn. MayakkannAdikku slightly better-nu thONudhu.

  
  
  nAn full-Am pArthEn. The movie consistently falls short of what it tries to achieve. Most frustrating.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 13:39:26 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  Nerd wrote: An hour of pokkisham. Rembbba sulow and very amateurish. Aanaalum naan full-A pAthuruvEn. MayakkannAdikku slightly better-nu thONudhu. nAn full-Am pArthEn. The movie consistently falls short of what it tries to achieve. Most frustrating.

  
  
  suhAsini raved it as a classic ...a poem on screen...a story on freedom etc
  
  charu niveditaku aduthu names droppingla periya aalu namma suhasinithan....pokkisham reviewla rabindranath togore,shakesperelam vandhanga
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Aug 23 13:42:45 2009.

  Tagore, seri right he is quite relevant. Sakesbeer ethukku? She might have felt that way. For me it consistently fell short - and definitely not due to lack of effort. Something was off in the execution in the latter stages of the film.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Aug 23 13:46:54 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  Tagore, seri right he is quite relevant. Sakesbeer ethukku? She might have felt that way. For me it consistently fell short - and definitely not due to lack of effort. Something was off in the execution in the latter stages of the film.

  
  
  avunga sonnadhoda summary
  
  this movie is a classic...why its a classic? Because it stands out from the rest of the movies...like the literature of rabindranath tagore,one strange name,another guys name,shakespere...
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Aug 23 14:27:06 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  I like santhosh sivans cinematography more than pc srirams.

  
  
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Aug 23 22:54:37 2009.

  SS is the best.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 22:55:20 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: I like santhosh sivans cinematography more than pc srirams.

  
  
  In a way, AmA. nEthu varalARu pArthukittirundhEn. It started off well.. rich looks and all.. the Thothapuram episode in itself is horrible ad the camera work was pitiful. appuRam, the climax sequence had one of the most time-slogging double/triple face depiction on-screen. Instantly reminded of Santhanam's mokka episode of enga veetu pillai. Mirroring-a vida kEvalamA irundhuchu. PCS!
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Aug 23 23:02:02 2009.

  Venki,
  
  PC Sriram did only a few scenes in Varalaaru. KSR and PC Sriram had creative differences () and PC left in midway. The rest of the scenes are done by Priyan.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 23 23:11:29 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: I like santhosh sivans cinematography more than pc srirams. In a way, AmA. nEthu varalARu pArthukittirundhEn. It started off well.. rich looks and all.. the Thothapuram episode in itself is horrible ad the camera work was pitiful. appuRam, the climax sequence had one of the most time-slogging double/triple face depiction on-screen. Instantly reminded of Santhanam's mokka episode of enga veetu pillai. Mirroring-a vida kEvalamA irundhuchu. PCS!

  
  
  i think only "kaatril or vaarthai" song was shot by PC - rest by someone else
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 23:20:45 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Venki, PC Sriram did only a few scenes in Varalaaru. KSR and PC Sriram had creative differences () and PC left in midway. The rest of the scenes are done by Priyan.

  
  Thanks.
  நீங்க ஒரு வில்லேஜ் விஞ்ஞானி பாஸ்!
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sun Aug 23 23:24:56 2009.

  Avaru oru information beuro
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Aug 23 23:28:31 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Avaru oru information beuro

  
  
  VarungkAla Murali Srinivas !
  
  

• From: villan007 on Sun Aug 23 23:29:22 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  நீங்க ஒரு வில்லேஜ் விஞ்ஞானி பாஸ்!

  
  
  
  
  ingliskaaran thana
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Aug 23 23:39:59 2009.

  villan007 wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: நீங்க ஒரு வில்லேஜ் விஞ்ஞானி பாஸ்! ingliskaaran thana

  
  
  yaah yaah...
  
  //dig. vAzhga Arsenal... valarga Arsenal//
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Aug 23 23:40:38 2009.

  மனதில் உறுதி வேண்டும் - balachander touch !
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Aug 23 23:40:47 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: Avaru oru information beuro VarungkAla Murali Srinivas !

  
  
  Murali sir varutthapada poraaru
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Aug 24 3:41:23 2009.

  God, for a moment, was completely shocked to hear that PC Sreeram shot 'varalARu'! (Thanks, LM and Maddy!) Never knew he was associated with that film, actually.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Aug 24 4:16:24 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  KSR and PC Sriram had creative differences ()

  
  
  
  PC did Mugavari, right? After that he did Vaanam Vasappadum. Vera edhavadhu pannaara apparam?
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 24 4:18:57 2009.

  kanda naal mudhal
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Aug 24 4:22:21 2009.

  Varalaaru - nth time
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Aug 24 4:23:00 2009.

  And then 'Cheeni Kum' and 'yAvarum nalam'/'13 B.' I suppose he's doing 'Pa' too?
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 24 11:19:58 2009.

  had a chance to watch few scenes of:
  
  Vetri
  
  Madras Vathiyar
  
  Neranja Manasu
  
  ------------
  
  have to say, SAC has poor music sense.. until R Sundarrajan.. took over from him.. VK haven't got good songs except very few.. as SAC mostly used sankar ganesh (i guess)
  
  In vetri.. some scenes.. s n surendar dubbed for VK.. & he himself for some others... difference is quite hard to find it
  
  -------------
  
  Neranja Manasu introduction...
  
  P1: ayyanar (VK) enge kaanum
  
  Ilavarasu: idiyum mazhayum sollikittada varum
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Aug 25 5:50:16 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Neranja Manasu introduction... P1: ayyanar (VK) enge kaanum Ilavarasu: idiyum mazhayum sollikittada varum

  
  
  Isn't that the movie in which VK rides a bike around the village with his eyes closed while the heroine sings "Pathu po, mama pathu po"
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Tue Aug 25 5:56:36 2009.

  Socha Na Tha (Abhay Deol & Ayesha Takia).
  
  Imitiaz Ali's debut. His strength is his writing. (Havent seen Love Aaj Kal). I liked the leads in this film, very natural and believable. Sila idangaL konjam silly-o nu thoNuchu.
  
  Abhay was completely at ease inspite of being his debut. Ayesha was good. Oru maadhiri bayandhaapolavae irundhadhu padam muzhukka. But she was good for that role.
  
  And Imitiaz Ali writes good lyrics too. (Hindi Nahi maaloom. Subtitle vechchu solren!)
  
  

• From: Sarna on Tue Aug 25 6:43:44 2009.

  AudazJay wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Neranja Manasu introduction... P1: ayyanar (VK) enge kaanum Ilavarasu: idiyum mazhayum sollikittada varum Isn't that the movie in which VK rides a bike around the village with his eyes closed while the heroine sings "Pathu po, mama pathu po"

  
  
  adhEy dhaan.... from the director of Nadodigal
  
  

• From: viraajan on Tue Aug 25 6:44:47 2009.

  Neranja Manasu heroine
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Aug 25 6:52:13 2009.

  AravindMano wrote:

  Socha Na Tha (Abhay Deol & Ayesha Takia). Imitiaz Ali's debut. His strength is his writing. (Havent seen Love Aaj Kal). I liked the leads in this film, very natural and believable. Sila idangaL konjam silly-o nu thoNuchu. Abhay was completely at ease inspite of being his debut. Ayesha was good. Oru maadhiri bayandhaapolavae irundhadhu padam muzhukka. But she was good for that role. And Imitiaz Ali writes good lyrics too. (Hindi Nahi maaloom. Subtitle vechchu solren!)

  
  
  Imtiaz Ali is a brilliant writer......i jsut realised it in love aaj kal........he could write almost everything that a confused mind has to say .....btw, i didnt know Socha na tha is by Imtiaz ......wow - wat a movie and wat ferfarmans by abhay thambi......
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Aug 25 12:08:18 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  AudazJay wrote: HonestRaj wrote: Neranja Manasu introduction... P1: ayyanar (VK) enge kaanum Ilavarasu: idiyum mazhayum sollikittada varum Isn't that the movie in which VK rides a bike around the village with his eyes closed while the heroine sings "Pathu po, mama pathu po" adhEy dhaan.... from the director of Nadodigal

  
  
  adhu avaru creation'la pannalinu vaakku moolam kuduthuttaru
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Aug 26 1:19:36 2009.

  Nayagan
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 1:23:38 2009.

  Ranga.
  Rajni was good.
  
  Ayan.
  hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu
  
  Vasool Raja.
  I find it better than the original and the telugu versions.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Aug 26 1:24:23 2009.

  Hey Venki...
  
  ippellaam korean/spanish movie review panrathillayaa
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 26 1:27:48 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu

  
  
  tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ?
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 26 1:29:22 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Hey Venki... ippellaam korean/spanish movie review panrathillayaa

  
  
  
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 1:34:35 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Hey Venki... ippellaam korean/spanish movie review panrathillayaa

  
  
  TM... neenga thAn Anban aNNanukku PM anuppi ennaya mAtti uduRathA? veLiya vAnga vechikuREn...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 1:35:15 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ?

  
  
  Fast forward.
  ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon.
  
  

• From: Querida on Wed Aug 26 2:00:04 2009.

  post moved to appropriate thread...
  
  

• From: rami on Wed Aug 26 2:33:03 2009.

  Paadum Paravaigal...
  
  What a BGM by IR ..
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Wed Aug 26 3:18:53 2009.

  Achamundu Achamundu...CSI range-ku build up kudukerange, but...
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Aug 26 7:49:39 2009.

  venki, unna eppavO thala muzhugiyaachu
  I'd be if you had to say anything nice abt Surya films
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 9:39:17 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  venki, unna eppavO thala muzhugiyaachu I'd be if you had to say anything nice abt Surya films

  
  
  Watching Friends.
  To my disappointment Vijay was better than Surya. Vadivelu was a gem.
  
  NOV, ungaLukkAga VCD thEdi eduthu pArthEn theriyumA?
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Aug 26 9:45:15 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ? Fast forward. ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon.

  
  
  Intha BRoda Kadal Pookal padathula Murali jodiya 8 or 9 varusathukku munndai tamil-la introduce aanangalE avangalA
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 9:58:12 2009.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ? Fast forward. ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon. Intha BRoda Kadal Pookal padathula Murali jodiya 8 or 9 varusathukku munndai tamil-la introduce aanangalE avangalA

  
  
  Samuthiram.
  neenga solRadhu vEra piece.
  
  

• From: Rocky89 on Wed Aug 26 10:02:27 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ? Fast forward. ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon. Intha BRoda Kadal Pookal padathula Murali jodiya 8 or 9 varusathukku munndai tamil-la introduce aanangalE avangalA Samuthiram. neenga solRadhu vEra piece.

  
  
  Rendum orE piece thaan
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Aug 26 10:09:36 2009.

  Rocky89 wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Sanjeevi wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ? Fast forward. ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon. Intha BRoda Kadal Pookal padathula Murali jodiya 8 or 9 varusathukku munndai tamil-la introduce aanangalE avangalA Samuthiram. neenga solRadhu vEra piece. Rendum orE piece thaan

  
  
  I yaam saari... engayO thappu nadanthirukku.
  Focus shift back to Shreya.
  Enga Vinod... ensaay
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 26 23:20:19 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  NOV wrote: venki, unna eppavO thala muzhugiyaachu I'd be if you had to say anything nice abt Surya films Watching Friends. To my disappointment Vijay was better than Surya. Vadivelu was a gem. NOV, ungaLukkAga VCD thEdi eduthu pArthEn theriyumA?

  
  
  untill Pokiri, Vijay was better than Surya dhaan
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Aug 26 23:22:19 2009.

  Rocky89 wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Sanjeevi wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Ayan. hmm... enna sonnAlum NOV vandhu ennaya nakkal paNNa pORAru. So, padam aRputhamA irundhuchu tammu'va paththi onnumE sollala ? Fast forward. ippO focus-la Sindhu Menon. Intha BRoda Kadal Pookal padathula Murali jodiya 8 or 9 varusathukku munndai tamil-la introduce aanangalE avangalA Samuthiram. neenga solRadhu vEra piece. Rendum orE piece thaan

  
  
  but nalla katta.... watch chandhamama-telugu movie
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Aug 27 12:54:33 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: NOV wrote: venki, unna eppavO thala muzhugiyaachu I'd be if you had to say anything nice abt Surya films Watching Friends. To my disappointment Vijay was better than Surya. Vadivelu was a gem. NOV, ungaLukkAga VCD thEdi eduthu pArthEn theriyumA? untill Pokiri, Vijay was better than Surya dhaan

  
  
  ippo..better than Ajith'ah?
  
  

• From: Sarna on Thu Aug 27 21:51:12 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Sarna wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: NOV wrote: venki, unna eppavO thala muzhugiyaachu I'd be if you had to say anything nice abt Surya films Watching Friends. To my disappointment Vijay was better than Surya. Vadivelu was a gem. NOV, ungaLukkAga VCD thEdi eduthu pArthEn theriyumA? untill Pokiri, Vijay was better than Surya dhaan ippo..better than Ajith'ah?

  
  
  idhukkudhaan hub'ku regular'aa varanum'gradhu
  hub pundits'a poruththavaraikkum barath , jeeva maadhiri sundaka pasanga ellaam better than nadikkaththeriyaadha+azhagillaadha Ajith'nga.
  
  regular'aa hub'ku vaanga for more enlightment
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Aug 27 21:53:19 2009.

  Pudhiyavan @ Astro Vellithirai
  
  Starring Murali, but this was the 80s when he had the ability to profess his love and was out of college.
  
  I watched it on TV, twenty minutes later, when Murali was singing Then Mazhaiyila (awesome Jazz number) and was executing what seemed to be rythmic martial arts move but in association with the song, I realised it was dance to counter superb moves examplified by k. Bagyaraj those days. I wonder why he didn't precede Surya in pioneering the use of double for dancing. Is this going to be a horrible 80s film?
  
  No, that was a bad preconception on my side. The film turned out to be pretty good, and I have never seen Murali act as good as this. Okay, not that great, but he was able to emote at least 70% of the emoticons available here. But end of the day, it was Ilayaraja and his gems: the above mentioned Then Mazhaiyile, Vanthathu Vasantha Kaalam, Naano Kan Paarthen.
  
  Oh, and you actually get to see Raja and Vairamuthu playing themselves in the process of songwriting. And they actually acted!
  
  Also need to mention Delhi Ganesh as Muralis understanding, communism sympathising lawyer dad. Calls his son comrade. Interesting dialogues for him. After saving his dad who got beaten by goons:
  
  Murali: Yaarappa athu unggala adichavangga?
  DG: (still injured) Ada pooppa, adikkiravangga enna peeru address ellam koduttuttaa adippaangga?
  
  I really enjoyed this film.
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Aug 27 22:15:09 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  I have never seen Murali act as good as this. Okay, not that great, but he was able to emote at least 70% of the emoticons available here.

  
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Aug 27 22:18:17 2009.

  abhiyum naanum - another goodie from radhamohan/prakashraj team
  
  I will not object if prakash raj gets best actor award. What an actor yaa!
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Thu Aug 27 23:40:57 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Starring Murali, but this was the 80s when he had the ability to profess his love and was out of college.

  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Aug 28 0:31:22 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  I wonder why he didn't precede Surya in pioneering the use of double for dancing

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Fri Aug 28 1:16:47 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Vasool Raja. I find it better than the original and the telugu versions.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Aug 28 1:33:07 2009.

  gorucho
  
  i watched first 20 mins.. mudiyala.. murali as disco dancer. what a terror role boss..
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Aug 28 1:39:59 2009.

  Yeah, my hands were itchy playing around the remote...but songs interested me, then apart from the dancing the film was not bad
  
  There was even a competition with Ravindar who is a decent dancer, and guess who wins?
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Aug 28 3:56:54 2009.

  First 40 mins of DasAvathAram..till the Balram Naidu interrogation scene
  That makes is 2.25 times till now.
  Liking it better with each viewing. Dissance thaanga kaaraNam.
  
  1)....any future association with Westmore should be classified as a punishable offence. I think that was the major put-off-er
  2) Dialogue was very vaLa-vaLa for a Kamal movie. Some ordinary wordplay resembled his interviews
  3) Balram Naidu should be reprised in a full length movie. The character deserves it. "At once Sir"
  
  

• From: Sarna on Fri Aug 28 4:13:03 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  3) Balram Naidu should be reprised in a full length movie. The character deserves it. "At once Sir"

  
  
  
  
  but commercial'aa pOgaadhu yet another movie by kamal which can be enjoyed multiple times in small screen like PT, PKS, AS, MX etc
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 28 4:40:32 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Balram Naidu should be reprised in a full length movie.

  
  
  I don't think it will workout ..It was interesting since it is not full length character ..If this is only main character ,it will be overdose.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Aug 28 5:01:20 2009.

  I'd love to see Balram again...and Joe has a point too. But as PR once mentioned, I'd love to see Cleaseu-sque character here...not the moronic Steve Martin version, but the bumbling and earnestly self-deluding Sellers version. Basically a rewrite of Janagaraj's character from Apoorva Sahotharargal, he is definitely one of the very few joys in the film.
  
  

• From: Appu s on Fri Aug 28 6:03:36 2009.

  Classmates
  
  Thanks to directhit.. the way he promote Ninaithaley innikkum made me to watch this movie.
  
  after a long time watched a interesting thrilling movie.. everyone given a good performance.. not even a single broing scene.. somehow guessed the suspense part. but the screenplay is topnotch..
  
  Ente kalbiley song
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Aug 28 6:15:52 2009.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Vasool Raja. I find it better than the original and the telugu versions.

  
  
  vara vara edha sonnAlum Hub-la othukuRathilla... ellAthukum oru suggestion...
  
  

• From: Sarna on Fri Aug 28 6:35:05 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Thalafanz wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Vasool Raja. I find it better than the original and the telugu versions. vara vara edha sonnAlum Hub-la othukuRathilla... ellAthukum oru suggestion...

  
  
  
  
  btw, I am with u venky
  
  for me kamal version is the best one
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Aug 28 9:02:45 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Liking it better with each viewing. Dissance thaanga kaaraNam.

  for me becos of the junk thats being churned out now.
  minus the masks ...
  screenplay was amazing ... not a single moment of boredom despite its length.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Aug 28 9:13:57 2009.

  alavudheenum arbutha villakkum.. good entertainment..
  
  ashokan was just exceptionally hilarious.. ui ui ui..
  
  rajni was reduced to ultimate dummy role..
  
  

• From: Sarna on Fri Aug 28 9:27:49 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  alavudheenum arbutha villakkum.. good entertainment.. ashokan was just exceptionally hilarious.. ui ui ui.. rajni was reduced to ultimate dummy role..

  
  
  yeah
  
  but the heroine looked bit older than Kamal in that movie other than that movie is good entertainer
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Aug 28 9:47:42 2009.

  heroine was rajni's adopted mother come ejamaniyamma in muthu..
  
  

• From: Sarna on Fri Aug 28 9:50:19 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  heroine was rajni's adopted mother come ejamaniyamma in muthu..

  
  
  yeah...
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Aug 28 9:59:46 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  Raikkonen wrote: heroine was rajni's adopted mother come ejamaniyamma in muthu.. yeah...

  
  
  Well, she was Kamal's own mom in MMKR!
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Aug 28 10:14:53 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Pudhiyavan @ Astro Vellithirai But end of the day, it was Ilayaraja and his gems: the above mentioned Then Mazhaiyile, Vanthathu Vasantha Kaalam, Naano Kan Paarthen. Oh, and you actually get to see Raja and Vairamuthu playing themselves in the process of songwriting. And they actually acted!

  
  
  That was NOT a Raja score.
  
  Possibly V S Narasimhan or Shivaji Raja.
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Aug 28 10:16:41 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: Pudhiyavan @ Astro Vellithirai But end of the day, it was Ilayaraja and his gems: the above mentioned Then Mazhaiyile, Vanthathu Vasantha Kaalam, Naano Kan Paarthen. Oh, and you actually get to see Raja and Vairamuthu playing themselves in the process of songwriting. And they actually acted! That was NOT a Raja score. Possibly V S Narasimhan or Shivaji Raja.

  
  VS Narasimhan - naanO kaN pArthEn is a give away - that cannot be Raja.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 28 11:09:41 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  1)....any future association with Westmore should be classified as a punishable offence. I think that was the major put-off-er 2) Dialogue was very vaLa-vaLa for a Kamal movie.

  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Aug 28 12:16:19 2009.

  Ethiroli
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 28 13:33:02 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  2) Dialogue was very vaLa-vaLa for a Kamal movie. Some ordinary wordplay resembled his interviews

  I get that feeling whenever Kamal pens the dialogues
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Aug 28 14:13:34 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: 2) Dialogue was very vaLa-vaLa for a Kamal movie. Some ordinary wordplay resembled his interviews I get that feeling whenever Kamal pens the dialogues

  
  
  in may be lengthy dialgues but never valavala kola kola...devar magan,mahanadhi,kurudhipunal etc..had some long conversations but not valavala kolakola at all
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 28 14:42:47 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Benny Lava wrote: Prabhu Ram wrote: 2) Dialogue was very vaLa-vaLa for a Kamal movie. Some ordinary wordplay resembled his interviews I get that feeling whenever Kamal pens the dialogues in may be lengthy dialgues but never valavala kola kola...devar magan,mahanadhi,kurudhipunal etc..had some long conversations but not valavala kolakola at all

  
  Idhukkum
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 28 14:45:39 2009.

  Perhaps I felt like that only for the comedy movies
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 28 14:50:25 2009.

  Thalaivar idhu varaikkum ore oru comedy padathukku dhaane dialogue ezhudhiyirukkaaru - MX. Appo, unga kutrachaattu Crazy Mogan mela dhaan!
  As for Dasavatharam, many well written dialogues but enakku PR sonna valavala feel Asin scenes la rembave vandhuchu...
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Fri Aug 28 15:11:57 2009.

  Ohh.. appadiya.. irukkum irukkum
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Aug 29 9:51:58 2009.

  Narasimma... fully for he first time.
  
  No comments.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Aug 29 12:11:49 2009.

  Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sat Aug 29 12:36:45 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Narasimma... fully for he first time. No comments.

  
  
  antha padathayum full aa paarthirukiye.. Unna paththi enna comment pannalaam
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sat Aug 29 12:37:38 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu

  
  
  Tamil Mass heroes yaaraachum eduththa padamaa irukumo
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sat Aug 29 12:39:20 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Ohh.. appadiya.. irukkum irukkum

  
  
  athaan, yethaavathu oru comment panrathukku munnaala yosikanum.. Music vishayathula thaan appadi irukeengannu paartha ellaathulayum appadithaan poala
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Aug 29 12:41:47 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu Tamil Mass heroes yaaraachum eduththa padamaa irukumo

  
  
  Last 3 years-la Kannada-la pakkara maadhiri vandha orey padam idhudhaan. Adhaan reason
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sat Aug 29 12:45:54 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: littlemaster1982 wrote: Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu Tamil Mass heroes yaaraachum eduththa padamaa irukumo Last 3 years-la Kannada-la pakkara maadhiri vandha orey padam idhudhaan. Adhaan reason

  
  
  Good ! Ippa Karnataka la saapidura maathiri kidaikura Oru Food Item sollu paarkalaam
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sat Aug 29 12:51:59 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: littlemaster1982 wrote: Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu Tamil Mass heroes yaaraachum eduththa padamaa irukumo Last 3 years-la Kannada-la pakkara maadhiri vandha orey padam idhudhaan. Adhaan reason

  
  
  Kaincha maadu kambankollaila puguntha maari Kannada people kottaikulla pugunthuttangalO
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Aug 29 12:59:47 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Thirumaran wrote: littlemaster1982 wrote: Mungaaru Male (Kannada) - Decent film. Aana eppadi oru varusham odichu Tamil Mass heroes yaaraachum eduththa padamaa irukumo Last 3 years-la Kannada-la pakkara maadhiri vandha orey padam idhudhaan. Adhaan reason Good ! Ippa Karnataka la saapidura maathiri kidaikura Oru Food Item sollu paarkalaam

  
  
  Medhu vadai
  
  Sanjeevi,
  
  The hype was unbelievable when this film was released. Highest grosser in Kannada film industry (Rs. 75 Crores). PVR Multiplex-la oru varusham oduchu
  
  

• From: interz on Sat Aug 29 17:24:26 2009.

  Kandasaamy - Ithellam doopu, Kandasaamythaan wastu
  
  I would say Kandasamy is most dissapointing movie of 2009. The main reason i dislike the movie is the screenplay & presentation. The director seem to have tried to tell much, perhaps tell too much. A lot of scenes are dragging. The editor must have slept a lot, lot of scenes are not necessary.
  
  Kanthasaamy is definately not family movie. Too much skin show, smoochin, double meaning dialogues.
  
  Now about performances:
  Vikram is cool, but he looks redicoulous making funny sounds in rooster costume, saying silly wordplay. I tried to find a scene with heroine. I was wondering who is that boy who spends a lot of time with Vikram???
  
  Comedy, lacking in creativity, its repetitive from Vadivelus earlier movies. Its not new trend MR Vadivelu, its same trend.
  
  Villains, can they get more pathetic than this?? The answer is.. YES, in upcoming masala movies they will be even more redicoulous.
  
  Music, excuse me song is ok. The rest of the songs are forgettable. BGM annoying and loud. For a guy who have Ilayaraja as rolemodel, you could expect better BGM, since Ilayaraja is outstanding when it comes to BGM.
  
  Camera, just passed.
  
  I hope Kandasamy will be a movie shown at filmschools to show how you should not make a movie.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 30 8:58:07 2009.

  mahesh, saranya matrum palar
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Aug 30 9:03:05 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  mahesh, saranya matrum palar

  
  
  unga kooda padam paakka vanthavangaLa ? yenna padam?
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 30 9:07:54 2009.

  he he Joe,
  
  shakthi son of P. Vasu, Sandhiya and Saranya nadicha padam.
  http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/dec/01review-mahesh-saranya-matrum-palar.htm
  
  

• From: mexicomeat on Sun Aug 30 9:12:54 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  mahesh, saranya matrum palar

  
  review:
  
  mahesh, saranya matrum palar
  
  theataril mattum silar
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Aug 30 9:30:46 2009.

  the idea behind the making was good. nothing new, but the style of story telling was interesting.
  however the screenplay was dastardly slow
  
  

• From: Srimannarayanan on Sun Aug 30 11:24:21 2009.

  Polladhavan(2007) in Local Cable TV
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Aug 30 11:31:33 2009.

  லாடம் - இந்த படம் எடுத்தவனுக்கு கட்ட வேண்டியது
  
  

• From: Srimannarayanan on Sun Aug 30 11:33:07 2009.

  joe wrote:

  லாடம் - இந்த படம் எடுத்தவனுக்கு கட்ட வேண்டியது

  
  
  Adhu Dummy peesu.
  
  
  Why did you see this movie?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Aug 30 11:36:20 2009.

  Srimannarayanan wrote:

  joe wrote: லாடம் - இந்த படம் எடுத்தவனுக்கு கட்ட வேண்டியது Adhu Dummy peesu. Why did you see this movie?

  
  
  antha padaththa eduththavanukku laadam katrathukku
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Aug 30 11:36:55 2009.

  Srimannarayanan wrote:

  joe wrote: லாடம் - இந்த படம் எடுத்தவனுக்கு கட்ட வேண்டியது Adhu Dummy peesu. Why did you see this movie?

  
  
  Today Sun Tv-la pottanga ..appo vera velai irukkala
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Aug 30 21:17:59 2009.

  லாடம் - 1st half oru maadhiri nallaadhaan eduththuttu pOnaanga 2nd half dhaan
  climax nallaa irundhadhu
  
  but telugu film city, 2 full meels, john f kennedy ... were good
  appuram padam fulla namma kOtta, hero maadhiriyE viral'la padam varairadhu 80% moola 20% vivaram'nu solradhu
  then villain kOshtila oru alla kai" enna paaththu telugu pada villain solli kEvalappaduththittaandaa naan eththana telugu padam paaththiruppEn"
  heroine'ku nalla voice'a kuduththirukkalaam
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Aug 30 21:25:57 2009.

  Thalainagaram
  
  Positives
  
  Good screenplay
  Good climax
  Vadivelu
  no heroism
  realistic ..
  
  negatives
  
  Hero - though it was a hit i always feel that it wud be a block buster if Vijay/Vikram was the hero ... dont think i am saying this because i am fan of VJ ... periya hero la ivanga rendu perum thaan local rowdy kku suit aavanga ...
  
  music - oru melody song hit ... appuram BGM nalla irrukum but mathapadi songs onnu avalava nalla irukathu ...
  
  a gud entertainer ...
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Aug 30 21:28:57 2009.

  Vinodh, Thalaingaram padaththula vadivElu dhaanga hero... michcha ellaa charactors'umE fillers dhaanga
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Aug 30 21:31:30 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  Vinodh, Thalaingaram padaththula vadivElu dhaanga hero... michcha ellaa charactors'umE fillers dhaanga

  
  
  :unga avatar:
  
  

• From: jaaze on Sun Aug 30 21:33:12 2009.

  
  
  It was good that Sundar C acted in this as he proved himself as an actor and Vijay/Ajith may not have worked. Remember he dies in the end? Not that favourable, fans othukkamattaanga. Sundar C ku nadippu velippadutha nalla (ore) padam.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Aug 30 22:09:16 2009.

  koncham kashtam koncham ishtam (telugu) - tamanna-kkaagave paathen.....she has improved a lot from kedi, vyabaari days and bettered kallori performance.....siddarth looked strange but emotes well.......
  
  awesome music by Shankar-ehsaan-Loy ......padam ellam perusa onnum illa.......but noticed one thing, tamil and telugu movies are so similar that i could understand the dialogues without subtitles by just guessing the context - adhavadhu, indha idathhala idha thaane solla porranunga madhiri
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Aug 30 23:16:28 2009.

  one more scene in Laadam
  
  hero @ heroine :- kalyaanam'gradhu periyavanga paaththu nichchayam panni , ammi midhichchu arundhadhi paathth...... etc
  
  heroine goes to citibabu and says : saar, avan romba mokka pOduraan
  
  citibabu : enna vidavaa
  
  
  
  this conversation reminded me of hub.
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Aug 31 9:44:12 2009.

  aanandha thaandavam
  nice story by sujatha, not properly made to celluloid.
  who is that actor with ravikrishna's screeching voice?
  tamana a better actress like asin would have done a commendable job.
  screenplay was ridiculous.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Aug 31 9:59:32 2009.

  Incredibles - தொடங்கினால் நிறுத்த முடிவதில்லை
  
  Lost count as to how many times I've watched this (i.e. in parts).
  
  

• From: Mahen on Mon Aug 31 10:06:21 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  aanandha thaandavam nice story by sujatha, not properly made to celluloid. who is that actor with ravikrishna's screeching voice? tamana a better actress like asin would have done a commendable job. screenplay was ridiculous.

  
  
  The characterization of madhumitha was screwed...Asin-o/tamanna-o/revathy-o ..it will all be the same effect..Im surprised you liked the story
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Aug 31 10:09:44 2009.

  mahen didnt expect to see you here
  actually mahen, even genelia could have done justice for that role - esp the veguli pen bits.
  
  

• From: Mahen on Mon Aug 31 10:11:26 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  mahen didnt expect to see you here actually mahen, even genelia could have done justice for that role - esp the veguli pen bits.

  
  
  Disagree..Tammu acting in the climax was class
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Aug 31 10:16:23 2009.

  a to y seri illa... z mattum irundhu enna palan
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Mon Aug 31 10:54:45 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  mahen didnt expect to see you here actually mahen, even genelia could have done justice for that role - esp the veguli pen bits.

  
  
  True
  
  Ithana per suvathula muttiyum antha padathai paarthingala
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Aug 31 10:57:51 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  NOV wrote: mahen didnt expect to see you here actually mahen, even genelia could have done justice for that role - esp the veguli pen bits. Disagree..Tammu acting in the climax was class

  
  
  yeah low class
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 31 11:57:06 2009.

  அண்ணன் கவுண்டமணி
  
  தலைமையில்
  
  ஜெயராம்
  மணிவண்ணன்
  விஜயகுமார்
  ராஜன் பி தேவ்
  விவேக் - அல்வா வாசு
  பொன்வண்ணன் - பாண்டியன்
  தேவயானி - மந்த்ரா
  
  அனைவரும் இணைந்து கலக்கிய
  
  பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை < who is the writer & director? >
  
  After a long time, I have seen a complete film in a weekend. Last time, I saw "உனக்காக எல்லாம் உனக்காக".
  No need to say, what / who made me to watch both these films.
  
  Thalaivar is simply superb in his timing of dialogues & I never expected this film to be so humorous (normally i don't like revisiting average films, after a couple of scenes I would switch to some other channel).
  
  Jeyaram is extremely funny & I have read that he has done some genuine comedies in Malayalam.
  
  Manivannan & Alwa Vasu deserves a round of
  
  I rate பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை next to முறைமாமன்.
  
  It is amazing to see how Gounder has created good chemistry with almost all lead actors & to FYI.. a couple of hours after பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை, kalaignar TV was showing இந்தியன்
  
  சந்துரு
  சுப்பையா
  பன்னீர்செல்வம்
  அரவிந்த்சாமி
  பார்த்தசாரதி
  கடாகுமார்
  ஷீலு
  
  aaha.. indha pErellam padikkumbodhe ungalukku aaganum.
  
  Few days back, our hubber Prabo has said about "jinjinakkadi" (Thillalangadi thread) ... At that time, I was not sure from where he quoted.... when I saw this yesterday, I was
  
  The only sore point between பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை & இந்தியன் is:
  
  I preferred to see கந்தசாமி Thirai vimarsanam, which had:
  
  Vikram "seval" scene
  Vadivelu "seval" scene & police station scene with Prabhu
  Vikram in lady get-up
  
  but...
  
  Boyish Shreya
  
  senthil: indha hairstyle'la avvalava onnum nalla illaye
  GM: adei komutti thalaya.... kozhi kuruda irundha enna.. kozhambhu rusiya irukke
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Aug 31 12:02:06 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை < who is the writer & director? >

  
  It is originally a Malayalam film with Jayaram in the lead. Don't know who played GM's role
  
  I can't quite imagine anyone else punching the bed crying out: "karumaandharam karumaandharam"
  
  
  

  Honest Raj wrote:

  Manivannan & Alwa Vasu deserves a round of

  Vivek is very funny too.
  
  summA adikkAdheenga maamA....(Vijayakumar is scared by the suddenness...then Rajan P Dev points his finger) che...kai ellAm neettaadheenga
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 31 12:09:19 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: பெரிய இடத்து மாப்பிள்ளை < who is the writer & director? > It is originally a Malayalam film with Jayaram in the lead. Don't know who played GM's role I can't quite imagine anyone else punching the bed crying out: "karumaandharam karumaandharam"

  
  
  this scene
  
  when vivek says.. nan enga mamanga photova daily kumbiduvEn etc. etc.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Aug 31 12:16:51 2009.

  jaaze wrote:

  It was good that Sundar C acted in this as he proved himself as an actor and Vijay/Ajith may not have worked. Remember he dies in the end? Not that favourable, fans othukkamattaanga. Sundar C ku nadippu velippadutha nalla (ore) padam.

  
  
  enna ippadi solreenga...
  
  at present, SUNDAR C is the busiest of all heroes
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Tue Sep 1 4:13:10 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  jaaze wrote: It was good that Sundar C acted in this as he proved himself as an actor and Vijay/Ajith may not have worked. Remember he dies in the end? Not that favourable, fans othukkamattaanga. Sundar C ku nadippu velippadutha nalla (ore) padam. enna ippadi solreenga... at present, SUNDAR C is the busiest of all heroes

  
  
  Oru kaalathule, Prashant was also the busiest hero in TFI...but oru padam kudhe pakare madhiri irundhedha?
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Sep 1 22:01:09 2009.

  Devar Magan @ Astro Vellithirai
  
  Kamal the actor will forever overshadow Kamal the scriptwriter. The film just gets better over the time. As Joe mentioned, the father/son during rainy day scene is one of the best in TFI history. Lesson in scriptwriting, editing, music, and most importantly acting.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Sep 6 2:55:37 2009.

  தமிழன்..
  
  good perfarmans by vijay.. especially in the court scenes and the scene where he looks for revathy.. priyanka.. she looked very very lean.. 10 kilo kooda terumannu terile.. songs were good.
  
  shankar would have worked wonders with this subject..
  
  hope they can do a movie in the future..
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Sep 7 3:43:12 2009.

  pithamagan - what's wrong with Vikram's performance here, c'mon talk me
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 7 4:11:37 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  pithamagan - what's wrong with Vikram's performance here, c'mon talk me

  
  
  u say madhavan's performance in thambi is laughable..but i wont say vikram's performance in pithamagan is laughable as well as suryar's
  
  Vikram and laila were the best things in Pithamagan....ofcourse almighty ilayaraja and sir bala
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Sep 7 4:12:06 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  pithamagan - what's wrong with Vikram's performance here, c'mon talk me

  
  
  to be fair to vikram, characterisation was absolutely comical.....infact barring sethu, all of bala's protaganists have been from Mars...........critics of Bala and his movies have been rubbished off as "multiplex urban peters" who havent seen anything beyond their AC rooms and laptops, hence bala becomes the next ultimate thing in history of tamil cinema..... NK flopping big time is a good sign for tamil and its cinema
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 7 4:17:43 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Plum wrote: pithamagan - what's wrong with Vikram's performance here, c'mon talk me to be fair to vikram, characterisation was absolutely comical.....infact barring sethu, all of bala's protaganists have been from Mars...........critics of Bala and his movies have been rubbished off as "multiplex urban peters" who havent seen anything beyond their AC rooms and laptops, hence bala becomes the next ultimate thing in history of tamil cinema..... NK flopping big time is a good sign for tamil and its cinema

  
  
  neenga endha pakkam goal adikkureenga
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Sep 7 4:18:48 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Plum wrote: pithamagan - what's wrong with Vikram's performance here, c'mon talk me to be fair to vikram, characterisation was absolutely comical.....infact barring sethu, all of bala's protaganists have been from Mars...........critics of Bala and his movies have been rubbished off as "multiplex urban peters" who havent seen anything beyond their AC rooms and laptops, hence bala becomes the next ultimate thing in history of tamil cinema..... NK flopping big time is a good sign for tamil and its cinema

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 7 4:23:55 2009.

  NK flop'aa
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Sep 7 4:39:11 2009.

  On repeated viewings I liked pithamagan...especially vikrams charecter.
  
  oru karpana thaana?..a very unique charecterization
  
  Its not about filming reality...realitynu namba vecha podhum...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Sep 7 4:44:23 2009.

  Maddy,
  
  It takes a bala to make a movie on "completely" a fictional charecter(sithan) in a realistic environment in a way that the people dont feel odd about it.
  
  avlo sadharanama enna...to make people accept a fictional charecter in an otherwise realistic movie..
  
  sema guts and talent venum
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Sep 7 4:55:22 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  NK flopping big time is a good sign for tamil and its cinema

  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Sep 7 4:57:12 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Maddy, It takes a bala to make a movie on "completely" a fictional charecter(sithan) in a realistic environment in a way that the people dont feel odd about it. avlo sadharanama enna...to make people accept a fictional charecter in an otherwise realistic movie.. sema guts and talent venum

  
  
  some years back, i was ridiculed that i'm a peter and i dont understand the reality in bala's films.....now i see this line of arguements .......
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Sep 7 5:04:28 2009.

  NK enakku remba pidicha padam, so adhu flop aanadhu TN cinema ku nalladhu nu kandippa othukka matten..
  
  Aana, even if i didn't like the movie, i would give it to Bala, for his guts/passion. IMO, Indian film industry la "ivanukku" (Bharathi ivan) irukkara guts vera evanukku irukku, apart from Sir?
  So, if it has flopped, that only makes one Bala all the more!
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Sep 7 5:05:18 2009.

  NK flop-A ?
  
  ippo ellAm endha padathai paththiyum theriyamaattEngudhu. ellArum ellA padamum hittungraainga
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 7 5:10:42 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Indian film industry la "ivanukku" (Bharathi ivan) irukkara guts vera evanukku irukku

  
  
  and
  
  btw, film was a hit
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Sep 7 5:38:07 2009.

  maddy, konjam overA sollitEngaLo?
  Enga, nInga mattum kaminey, maqbool, omkara-nu padam paarpeenga, naangaLLAm villu, thambi, rendu, Aalwar mattum dhaan paarkaNumA? ada unga bolly rangeku illAttAlum, edho engaLukkunu sollikkara maadhiri ivar oruthar dhaan padam edukkarar? Adhaiyum keduthuruveenga pOla?
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Sep 7 6:12:57 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  maddy, konjam overA sollitEngaLo? Enga, nInga mattum kaminey, maqbool, omkara-nu padam paarpeenga, naangaLLAm villu, thambi, rendu, Aalwar mattum dhaan paarkaNumA? ada unga bolly rangeku illAttAlum, edho engaLukkunu sollikkara maadhiri ivar oruthar dhaan padam edukkarar? Adhaiyum keduthuruveenga pOla?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 7 6:16:20 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  Plum wrote: maddy, konjam overA sollitEngaLo? Enga, nInga mattum kaminey, maqbool, omkara-nu padam paarpeenga, naangaLLAm villu, thambi, rendu, Aalwar mattum dhaan paarkaNumA? ada unga bolly rangeku illAttAlum, edho engaLukkunu sollikkara maadhiri ivar oruthar dhaan padam edukkarar? Adhaiyum keduthuruveenga pOla?

  
  
  naan idhappaakkalayE
  
  Plum
  
  Btw, kaminey is good... it looked like Indian movie.... didnt look like copied from anyother hollywood movie... and didnt resembled hollywood movie... thats the kaminey speciality and my liking towards it
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Sep 7 8:59:17 2009.

  watched two films on vellithirai
  
  kalangarai vilakkam songs
  
  billa btw thEngai character and manorama character are absent in the new billa
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Sep 7 9:16:34 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  billa btw thEngai character and manorama character are absent in the new billa

  
  
  first viewing ?
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Sep 7 9:21:56 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  first viewing ?

  no, no, no... have watched in the 80s itself ippa maru olipparappu
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Sep 7 9:26:42 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Appu s wrote: first viewing ? no, no, no... have watched in the 80s itself ippa maru olipparappu

  
  
  don confuse, i say !
  
  no thengai in new billa, santhanam is there in place of manorama
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Sep 7 9:30:18 2009.

  
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Mon Sep 7 9:30:31 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  Plum wrote: maddy, konjam overA sollitEngaLo? Enga, nInga mattum kaminey, maqbool, omkara-nu padam paarpeenga, naangaLLAm villu, thambi, rendu, Aalwar mattum dhaan paarkaNumA? ada unga bolly rangeku illAttAlum, edho engaLukkunu sollikkara maadhiri ivar oruthar dhaan padam edukkarar? Adhaiyum keduthuruveenga pOla?

  
  
  YEn Thambi mattum underline pannirukkEL??? Highlight the whole movies list... Aaru, Majaa ellAm thiraikAviyam amAmmm...
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Sep 7 10:34:09 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  kalangarai vilakkam songs

  
  
  பொன்னெழில் பூத்தது புதுவானில் ! what a song
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Sep 7 10:37:44 2009.

  joe wrote:

  பொன்னெழில் பூத்தது புதுவானில் ! what a song

  my fav is என்னை மறந்ததேன் தென்றலே சென்று நீ என்நிலை சொல்லி வா
  காற்றோடு வளரும் சொந்தம் காற்றோடு போகும் மன்னவா
  power packed song
  
  sangE muzhangu, kaatru vaanga pOnEn, pallavan pallavi paadattumE and even enna uravO enna pirivO are all songs.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Sep 7 10:46:28 2009.

  NOV,
  நான் பள்ளியில் படிக்கும் போது எங்க ஊரில் கடற்கரை திறந்தவெளியில் 16MM திரையில் 'கலங்கரை விளக்கம்' படம் போட்டாங்க ..அடை மழை ..ஒரு பய அசையணுமே வீடுக்கு போய் ஒரு குடை எடுத்துட்டு வந்து நிண்ணுகிட்டே பார்த்தேன்ல
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Sep 7 10:57:48 2009.

  
  I remember you posting about this earlier too. Too funny to imagine.
  
  Once on a school trip to Ambasamudram, we were all taken to a club run by Madura Coats (T-Club, a lovely British style recreation club) which included an open air theatre. They said the movie that evening was Dilwale. We assumed it was the then popular DDLJ and all teamed up.
  
  It turned out to be a movie called Dilwale with Ajay Devgan and Sunil Shetty vie for screenspace. Thankfully it rained and they had to cancel the screening midway.[/html]
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Sep 7 11:01:28 2009.

  - you would have got enough wood for beating the cold, though!
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Sep 7 11:02:43 2009.

  More traumatic memories of my life include ajay devgan wooing raveena tandon in kumar sanu's voice with ktna haseen chehra. Maddy must understand the psychology behind my bollywood hatred
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Sep 7 11:17:47 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  It turned out to be a movie called Dilwale with Ajay Devgan and Sunil Shetty vie for screenspace. Thankfully it rained and they had to cancel the screening midway

  
  
  was it diljale
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  Maddy must understand the psychology behind my bollywood hatred

  
  
  ah, i'm with u in hatred for bollywood of 90's....we had one enthusiastic kumar sanu fan in Hub or yahoo grp, i dont remember, who was furious that rahman hasnt used him after just 1 song ...............
  
  blame it on dibakar banerjee and KhoslaKaGhosla for my loyality switch
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Sep 7 11:55:53 2009.

  Illa dilwale dhaan. Varalaaru miga mukyam.andha padam hit aagalainA you wouldn't have had love story2020
  Diljale is the one with sonali bendre and madhoo of roja. That was harry baweja outdoing himself.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Sep 7 12:59:53 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Illa dilwale dhaan. Varalaaru miga mukyam.andha padam hit aagalainA you wouldn't have had love story2020 Diljale is the one with sonali bendre and madhoo of roja. That was harry baweja outdoing himself.

  
  
  oh dilwale-nnu padam ellam vandhudhaa ......
  
  adhu love story 2050 illa yuvar aanar? ennappa kozhuppureenga
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Sep 7 13:00:52 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Illa dilwale dhaan. .... Diljale is the one with sonali bendre.

  
  
  Diljale Sonali padam...naan yEn kamblein paNNa pOREn....puyalE vandhaalum ukkAndhu paathuruppEn
  
  

• From: complicateur on Mon Sep 7 13:02:57 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Diljale Sonali padam...naan yEn kamblein paNNa pOREn....puyalE vandhaalum ukkAndhu paathuruppEn

  
  nIngaLum nAnum neraya visayaththula oththu pOrOm.
  Recent-a oru dishwashing liquid commercial-la pArthEn. Age has robbed her of her lustre.
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Sep 7 13:20:51 2009.

  Yeah....
  Goldie Behl-kku kalyANam aagalainnu yaar azhudhA
  
  But curiously she looks good in the Surya bulbs ad that was just a few months before this one.
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Sep 7 13:33:10 2009.

  Was googling and landed on a rediff article about Anahat - Sonali's Marathi film diected by Amol Palekar.
  
  The journalist can't help writingabout Sonali
  
  And btw some part that seem interesting in the context of indhi-aRakki-ozhiga
  
  

  Quote:

  Palekar said he did think of making the movie in Hindi, but the more he discussed the subject with his team, the more he was convinced that it sounded better in Marathi. "Everybody is asking me why I have made this movie in Marathi," he said. "Was this question ever posed to Satyajit Ray [ Images ]? Does anybody ask Mrinal Sen why he makes movies in Bengali? And I tell you, more Maharashtrians ask me this, because we have very little confidence in our language. We feel diffident about it.

  
  

• From: Querida on Mon Sep 7 17:34:11 2009.

  saw "masilamani" and "manjal veyyil"
  
  "manjal veyyil"...again with the self-sacrifice? Wasn't that already done to death (pun intended) by Murali a couple of years ago?
  
  "maasilamani" man it must suck to be the cop in that movie. Nakul I think has a formulaic reaction to all "freak-out", it was exactly the same as his "Kadhalil Vizhunthen". Anyways enjoyed the laughs.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Mon Sep 7 22:01:43 2009.

  Billa.. (old)..
  
  Rajappa Rajni..
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Sep 7 22:08:52 2009.

  Yeah, Raiks, saw the film again yesterday. Did you notice that when Major shoots Balajee, he aimed at Balajee's head but Balajee dutifully clutched his heart and died?
  
  Horrible filmaking. How about limping Tenggai managing to walk tightrope AAAnd carrying his two kids at the same time?
  
  But Rajini was awesome. Yes, Rajappa was very entertaining.
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Sep 7 22:11:38 2009.

  it was a holiday for you too Rakesh?
  
  btw, both the my name is billa and veththalaiyE pOttendi scenes fit the bill perfectly, unlike the new one.
  but the new one is very much flashier.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Mon Sep 7 22:16:46 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  it was a holiday for you too Rakesh? btw, both the my name is billa and veththalaiyE pOttendi scenes fit the bill perfectly, unlike the new one. but the new one is very much flashier.

  
  
  because an usb flash drive was used instead of a diary??
  
  yes groucho.. i lol'd at the climax fight with tengai and sripriya playing high angle volleyball with the diary.. some poor camera angles as well.. the comedy was overdone in rajappa's part.. he even jokes during the all important final clash with minor sunderrajan/gang..
  
  but it was thoroughly entertaining.. the remake was very good as well..
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Sep 7 22:19:39 2009.

  No, I took off yesterday.
  
  Yeah, I feel the same too. The new one definitely improved on the original's weaknesses. And thank god they let off the Tenggai subplot. Though...there was one gem of an exchange. Tenggai, to exchange the "diary" will ask Major to send Sri Priya not Major or others for the deal.
  
  Major: Yen?
  Tenggai: Yeena untha groupla ava mattumthaan buttisaaliya irukka.
  Major: Okay. Entha idam?
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Mon Sep 7 22:23:57 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  No, I took off yesterday. Yeah, I feel the same too. The new one definitely improved on the original's weaknesses. And thank god they let off the Tenggai subplot. Though...there was one gem of an exchange. Tenggai, to exchange the "diary" will ask Major to send Sri Priya not Major or others for the deal. Major: Yen? Tenggai: Yeena untha groupla ava mattumthaan buttisaaliya irukka. Major: Okay. Entha idam?

  
  
  
  
  matta boss.
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Sep 8 0:30:41 2009.

  
  (Which palce-ai marandhuttArA?)
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Sep 8 22:04:15 2009.

  Mappilai
  
  Ava en mooku mela kaya vachutaadaa
  
  RS. Sivaji was not bad too. But it's Rajini, Rajini & Rajini. Is it me or does Rajini have good chemistry with Amala.
  
  Ennathaan Sugamoo - a forgotten gem from Ilayaraaja.
  
  

• From: Sarna on Tue Sep 8 23:36:49 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Mappilai Ava en mooku mela kaya vachutaadaa But it's Rajini, Rajini & Rajini.

  
  
  hilarious scene I saw this long back ippa nenachchupaakkumbOdhu kooda sirippa adakkamudiyala saadhaarana dialogue'a kooda ultimate aakkuradhu thalaivar(groucho, unga innoru thalaivar GM'a kooda sEththukkalaam ) dhaan
  
  

  groucho070 wrote:

  Is it me or does Rajini have good chemistry with Amala. .

  
  Velaikkaaran'la kooda Rajini-amala pair comedy-kalandha-loves kalakkalaa irukkum
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Sep 8 23:43:24 2009.

  Yeah, some really silly lines and he gets away with it.
  
  when confronting Amala, drunk he'd be swaying and after each line he'd fall and gets Sivaji to hold him, each time, "Puddraaa..."
  
  And then he falls on her, and being on top, drunk: "ey..ey...yen en meela padutukittirukka? Enthiri, enthiri"
  
  

• From: Appu s on Wed Sep 9 0:48:49 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Yeah, some really silly lines and he gets away with it. when confronting Amala, drunk he'd be swaying and after each line he'd fall and gets Sivaji to hold him, each time, "Puddraaa..." And then he falls on her, and being on top, drunk: "ey..ey...yen en meela padutukittirukka? Enthiri, enthiri"

  
  
  u mean Chinni jeyanth ?
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Sep 9 0:55:47 2009.

  mappillai was boring, imo.. nowhere near other rajni hits. even mannan was better.
  
  only consolation was the special appearance from chiru gaaru.. nice seeing rajni and chiru together in a tamil movie. (rajni calls him 'dey' . )
  
  and was it a remake of athaku yamudu ammayikki mogudu??
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Sep 9 0:57:24 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: Yeah, some really silly lines and he gets away with it. when confronting Amala, drunk he'd be swaying and after each line he'd fall and gets Sivaji to hold him, each time, "Puddraaa..." And then he falls on her, and being on top, drunk: "ey..ey...yen en meela padutukittirukka? Enthiri, enthiri" u mean Chinni jeyanth ?

  
  
  I too remember chinni jeyanth was playing side-kick of Rajini in maappillai paaththu pala varushangal aagudhu... poor memory
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Sep 9 1:00:13 2009.

  no gorucho is right.. it 's rs sivaji..
  
  sidevayan was rajni's sidekick in raja chinna roja.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Sep 9 1:02:23 2009.

  Raiks, epdi telugula ipdi pinreenga? I thought you were malaysian tamil?...
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Sep 9 1:04:04 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Raiks, epdi telugula ipdi pinreenga? I thought you were malaysian tamil?...

  
  
  mom is from andhra..
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 9 1:31:47 2009.

  Yeah, it's RS Sivaji (I love his barber role in Guna "namma mathiri konjam vithiyasamana moonji irukkravangga...& the action that follows the JPC's Kalyanam song )
  
  Raiks, I think there was some sort of deal with that movie and the Telugu version. Calling resident Rajini yekshpert!!! Nerd? Bay?
  
  Oh, I think this film also saw the beginning of punch dialogue culture.
  
  Here's Rajini confronting Sri Vidhya: Panakkaranungga pazhi vaangga pala vazhi irukku, ana yezhaingga pazhi vanggurathukku orey vazhi thaan irukku....(to Nizhalga "Neat"u Ravi) kanna unakku solluren.....seeeviduveen...
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Sep 9 1:34:09 2009.

  grouch, Chiranjeevi's production company produced MaapiLLai. That is explanation enough. Did Rajni do the guest role in Chiru's telugu original? That, my friend, is certainly a question only Nerd can answer, I guess.
  
  Actually, they did this before. Exchanging roles in the tamil and telugu versions. Ah! There's a quiz question so I'll not answer that here
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Sep 9 1:48:00 2009.

  Plum, Rajini didnt do a guest role in telugu version "aththaku yamudu ammaayiki mogudu" .
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Sep 9 1:56:25 2009.

  So, who did it SarNA?
  
  

• From: Sarna on Wed Sep 9 2:25:46 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  So, who did it SarNA?

  
  
  Shravs :- Junior'ki cross questions veyyakandi
  
  // happydays paaththiruppeenganu nenakkurEn.... btw, naan PR style'a romba follow panranO
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Wed Sep 9 2:40:01 2009.

  Only y'day had the chance to watch " Vennila kabadi kuzhu" fully. (have watched it in parts before).
  
  It was quite an interesting & honest attempt but for the thrusted climax which doesn't seem to gel with the film.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Sep 9 10:54:53 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Actually, they did this before. Exchanging roles in the tamil and telugu versions. Ah! There's a quiz question so I'll not answer that here

  
  KaaLi. Correct-A?
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Sep 9 11:08:08 2009.

  No, Nerd. Let's take this to quiz section.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 9 11:15:20 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  mappillai was boring, imo.. nowhere near other rajni hits. even mannan was better. only consolation was the special appearance from chiru gaaru.. nice seeing rajni and chiru together in a tamil movie. (rajni calls him 'dey' . ) and was it a remake of athaku yamudu ammayikki mogudu??

  
  
  Raiks .. "ranuva veeran" parthadhillaya?
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Sep 9 11:22:30 2009.

  nyabagam illaye.. plus they were bigger stars when mappilai was released..
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 9 21:50:13 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Raiks .. "ranuva veeran" parthadhillaya?

  Surprised that someone knows this film. Wonderfully fun film. And Raiks is right, Chiranjeevi was still new then.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Sep 10 9:39:37 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Raiks .. "ranuva veeran" parthadhillaya? Surprised that someone knows this film. Wonderfully fun film. And Raiks is right, Chiranjeevi was still new then.

  
  
  
  
  Grouch, I have seen almost all of Rajini films,except a few B/W films
  
  -----------
  
  hub'la em mela edhavadhu thavarana aviprayam irukkO
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Sep 10 9:48:16 2009.

  parts of :
  
  AYYA
  
  
  Not bad...
  
  heard that Hari had Rajini in mind while writing this story...
  
  enga aalukku ippadi oru padam vandha nalla irukkum
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Sep 10 22:00:08 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Grouch, I have seen almost all of Rajini films,except a few B/W films

  Me too. I have Aaru Pushpanggal (with Tappu Taalanggal combo DVD) but still have not watched it. Vijaya Kumar is the main hero. Pombalaingga samachaaram, remba forward panna vendiyathaa irukkum.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Thu Sep 10 22:03:32 2009.

  [quote="groucho070"]

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Grouch, I have seen almost all of Rajini films,except a few B/W films

  Me too. I have Aaru Pushpanggal (with Tappu Taalanggal combo DVD) but still have not watched it. Vijaya Kumar is the main hero. Pombalaingga samachaaram, remba forward panna vendiyathaa irukkum.[/quote]
  
  Intha mAthiri vishayanggaL konda padanggaL pArkka ippOvE kaththukkOngga... Innum konja nAL-a romba uthavum...
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Sep 10 22:12:24 2009.

  Romba anubavapatta mathiri peesurengga
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Sep 11 11:10:58 2009.

  Pavithram on Asianet Plus. Lal is just sublime!
  
  

• From: interz on Sat Sep 12 6:23:00 2009.

  Ninaithaale Inikkum (2009) - half good half bad.
  
  Interesting 1st half, but afterwards the twists and climax spoils the rest of the movie.
  
  Prithviraj is cool actor, never dissapoints. Priyamani is perfect jodi, she has not much scope in this movie though. Lollu jeeva and Karthick did neat performance. Sakthi improved since Thottal Poo Malarum. Anuja (Sivi ghost) looks scary as always.
  
  Music is so so. songs are catchy to hear, painful to watch. BGM is a bit annoying, but on the critical moments like during climax VA does good job.
  
  I agree with Cinesnacks on use of old movie titles. PLs use new unheard titles instead.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Sep 13 3:57:01 2009.

  அச்சமுண்டு அச்சமுண்டு !
  
  நல்ல முயற்சி ..அருண் வைத்தியநாதன் தன் அறிமுகத்துக்கு இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் அழுத்தமான கதையை தேர்ந்தெடுத்திருக்கலாம் . அழுத்தம் குறைவு
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Sep 13 22:27:27 2009.

  Citizen @ Astro Vellithirai
  
  I avoided this film earlier on because I was avoiding too many films then anyway. I recall my brother saying that the first part of the film was hogwash but the flashback was good and that it had good plot that should have been developed better. And then, I texted Yoga (TF) when watching this, he said something similar and to "watch out for Fisherman Ajith".
  
  More here
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Sep 13 23:06:25 2009.

  Pava Mannippu @ Astro Vellithirai
  
  Not review, since everyone knows about this film. Just thoughts here
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Sep 13 23:29:52 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  "watch out for Fisherman Ajith".

  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Sep 13 23:34:29 2009.

  
  
  read the link
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Sep 13 23:39:37 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: "watch out for Fisherman Ajith".

  SR in Amaithipadai: Enna sirippu....
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Sep 14 11:51:25 2009.

  Vennila Kabadi Kuzhu
  
  - ch-28 cricket scenes vida.. VKK kabadi scenes parkka nalla irukku (I haven't played kabadi in my life, except a couple of times)
  
  - neat narration
  
  - pazhaya padangalla.. padam mudiyumpodhu "subam" nu pOduvanga... adhu madhri .. padatha nalla padiyavE mudichurukkalam
  
  - Heroine character name theriyadha orE padam idhuvathan irukkanum
  
  - have to see, whether this director has stuff or just one film wonder
  
  - Definitely, can be watched more than once
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed Sep 16 17:34:28 2009.

  Slumdog Millionaire.
  
  I need to stop watching this movie
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Sep 17 11:12:56 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie

  
  Are you searching
  For a reason?
  To be kind.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 17 11:27:03 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Wibha wrote: Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie Are you searching For a reason? To be kind.

  
  
  ada avanga, Dev Patel freida pinto-va romance panradhu thaangama solraanga....
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Sep 17 12:00:56 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Wibha wrote: Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie Are you searching For a reason? To be kind. ada avanga, Dev Patel freida pinto-va romance panradhu thaangama solraanga....

  
  
  nAn avanga imsai thAngAma solREn.. andha mAdhiri attu figure-a nyAbaga paduthaRathu illAma andha tippan baaks thalayanai vERa nyAbaga paduthi sAvadikuRAngaLE...
  
  

• From: Wibha on Thu Sep 17 12:25:58 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  MADDY wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Wibha wrote: Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie Are you searching For a reason? To be kind. ada avanga, Dev Patel freida pinto-va romance panradhu thaangama solraanga.... nAn avanga imsai thAngAma solREn.. andha mAdhiri attu figure-a nyAbaga paduthaRathu illAma andha tippan baaks thalayanai vERa nyAbaga paduthi sAvadikuRAngaLE...

  
  
  unaku poraamai
  
  suds grrrrr
  
  

• From: jaaze on Thu Sep 17 12:27:57 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  MADDY wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Wibha wrote: Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie Are you searching For a reason? To be kind. ada avanga, Dev Patel freida pinto-va romance panradhu thaangama solraanga.... nAn avanga imsai thAngAma solREn.. andha mAdhiri attu figure-a nyAbaga paduthaRathu illAma andha tippan baaks thalayanai vERa nyAbaga paduthi sAvadikuRAngaLE...

  
  
  but freida's not attu figure
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Sep 17 20:23:38 2009.

  jaaze wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: MADDY wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: Wibha wrote: Slumdog Millionaire. I need to stop watching this movie Are you searching For a reason? To be kind. ada avanga, Dev Patel freida pinto-va romance panradhu thaangama solraanga.... nAn avanga imsai thAngAma solREn.. andha mAdhiri attu figure-a nyAbaga paduthaRathu illAma andha tippan baaks thalayanai vERa nyAbaga paduthi sAvadikuRAngaLE... but freida's not attu figure

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Sarna on Mon Sep 21 1:46:56 2009.

  Currently Kalaingar TV playing Koodal Nagar.
  
  Just saw few snippets... not bad as expected Bharath is unexpectedly good
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 23 12:54:42 2009.

  ANDHONI - YAAR?
  
  * ThanthOnri thanamaga thiriyum Andhoniyin kadhai.
  
  * kadaisi varai avar yaar enru sollamaleye padathai mudithuvittargal
  
  * Sham migavum muyarchithu.. nadikka mudiyamal thOtrupogirar
  
  * Aduthu namma aalu....... Padmashri Vivek
  
  * padakOtti MGR opening paadalil kaLam iRangum Vivek.. thannudaya pErai kingpisher enru veithukkondullar.
  
  * avarum.. padathil matra charactergalum.. avarai eppozhudhellam appadi azhaikkirargalo.. appozhudhellam andha king'ukku piRagu.. censor'in kaththiri velayai thuvangugiradhu... andho parithabam.. migavum yosithu andha comedy (?) yai thayarithiruppar ( + avarudaya 7 1/2 koottali)
  
  * 10 % comedy sirikkumpadi irukkiradhu... samebathiya vazhakkamana mattergalum ulladhu
  
  * Sham ----- Thillalangadiyil siRappaga seithal .. appadiye villain + character rolegalukku shift aavadhu nalladhu
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 23 21:11:54 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  * avarum.. padathil matra charactergalum.. avarai eppozhudhellam appadi azhaikkirargalo.. appozhudhellam andha king'ukku piRagu.. censor'in kaththiri velayai thuvangugiradhu... andho parithabam.. migavum yosithu andha comedy (?) yai thayarithiruppar ( + avarudaya 7 1/2 koottali)

  But why was it censored? I saw the clips...its pretty annoying, the censoring I mean.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 23 21:17:31 2009.

  Sarvam
  
  The heart plot seemed to be pinched a bit from Talaivar's Blood Work (based on book by Michael Connelly). First half romantic comedy, second half thriller...pretty good. Arya is wonderful, easy sense of humour. Trisha and the kid, and I really grateful for this, were not annoying. Wonder why it didn't do well?
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Sep 23 21:29:13 2009.

  
  IndiavulayE...yEn namma waeld-layE indha padam pudichavar neenga mattum dhaan.
  
  adhuvum 'sense of humour' part padichappO enakku - irony gavanikkavum - heart attackE vandhuruchu.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Sep 23 21:29:37 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  But why was it censored? I saw the clips...its pretty annoying, the censoring I mean.

  
  Yeh, why was it censored? enakku puriyalaiyE KingFisher, Fisher-kku badhilaa?
  
  

  groucho070 wrote:

  Sarvam . Wonder why it didn't do well?

  
  iLaiyaraaja's *mella mella* is the only thing worth mentioning about this mahA mokkai.
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Wed Sep 23 21:32:02 2009.

  Paruthi Veeran(After long time) ..... What can I say?? Its a classic... Ithukku mela realistica entertainmenta oru padam vara mudiyumannu santhegama irukku(Class+Mass).....Best of Ameer....
  
  Yuvan excelled in BGM....Kalakirukkapula..... His jathi usage in stunts sequence is a sample for his creativity.....Another example is the urumi sound during the Karthik's anger towards police during the starting 'thiruvizha' scene........He used the romantic theme extensively...He gives the mysterious feel in various places by using the main romatic theme....That's amazing.....
  
  
  Expecting Yogi...
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 23 21:33:14 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  IndiavulayE...yEn namma waeld-layE indha padam pudichavar neenga mattum dhaan.

  Appadiya
  

  P_R wrote:

  adhuvum 'sense of humour' part padichappO enakku - irony gavanikkavum - heart attackE vandhuruchu.

  It's okay-yaar...I'll live with this. At least one or two others may have liked it.
  

  Nerd wrote:

  iLaiyaraaja's *mella mella* is the only thing worth mentioning about this mahA mokkai.

  In fact, I didn't like the fact that they cannot come up with original theme. Why borrow IR's?
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Sep 23 21:35:55 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  iLaiyaraaja's *mella mella* is the only thing worth mentioning about this mahA mokkai.

  is that the asaththalaam song?
  extremely good
  I also like siragugal song
  
  film is 100% proof that arya cant act even if his life depended on it.
  to call it a stupid film is being kind.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Sep 23 21:42:59 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Nerd wrote: iLaiyaraaja's *mella mella* is the only thing worth mentioning about this mahA mokkai. is that the asaththalaam song?

  
  illeenga NOV. I was talking about the recurring BGM borrowed from the film "vAzhkkai". The disco song - Silk + Sivaji's son dance to "mella mella ennai thottu". Yuvan plays the BGM throughout the first half whenever tirisA is in the vicnity of Arya, through various instruments. (violins, guitar, guitar + distortion pedal etc. ) nallA irukkum ellAmE.
  
  Actually I like GVP's version (un mEla aasai dhaan from aayirathil oruvan) of the "adadA vaa asathalaam" better
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 23 21:44:34 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  film is 100% proof that arya cant act even if his life depended on it.

  Au contraire. The death scene was well handled. He is blissfully unaware of the tragedy that had taken place...as we see during the previous death scene where his friend was emotional and he was not. Then, it hits him as he walks out and he stops...and cries. He is a fine actor and he did what he could within the confines of this genre.
  
  

  NOV wrote:

  to call it a stupid film is being kind.

  I thought it had a pretty decent script. As I said, it had elements of the plot from Blood Work, which was more of a crime thriller. And how can a film be stupid?
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Sep 23 21:47:03 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  The disco song - Silk + Sivaji's son dance to "mella mella ennai thottu

  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Sep 23 21:50:31 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Nerd wrote: The disco song - Silk + Sivaji's son dance to "mella mella ennai thottu

  
  padathula'nga. Sivaji's second son. veettOda mAppiLLaiyA pOyiduvaarE. Sariya dhAn solrEnA? Its been ages since I watched it.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Sep 23 22:26:12 2009.

  "It's okay yaar"-A?
  Et tu grouch?
  I am the retire
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 23 22:36:21 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  "It's okay yaar"-A? Et tu grouch? I am the retire

  Chuma. Ingga "It's okaylah"nu solluvom. Adutta murai local style-la ezhuthuren.
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Wed Sep 23 23:14:16 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  NOV wrote: Nerd wrote: The disco song - Silk + Sivaji's son dance to "mella mella ennai thottu padathula'nga. Sivaji's second son. veettOda mAppiLLaiyA pOyiduvaarE. Sariya dhAn solrEnA? Its been ages since I watched it.

  
  
  I think it was Nizhalgal ravi who did the role. The same tune was originally composed as a BGM in Pallavi Anu Pallavi- Maniratnam's first movie...well, that's what youtube seems to suggest.
  
  click here to listen
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Sep 24 2:26:34 2009.

  nizhalgal Ravi-A? Great the insult. It is the incomparable Kamal-wannabe, Basket Head, 'propped-up-as-Kamal-comptetitor-dancing-sensation', the great, great, greatest Ravinder!
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Sep 24 2:50:36 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  nizhalgal Ravi-A? Great the insult. It is the incomparable Kamal-wannabe, Basket Head, 'propped-up-as-Kamal-comptetitor-dancing-sensation', the great, great, greatest Ravinder!

  
  
  Oops, my mistake But didn't nizhalgal ravi act in that film? Ore confusion
  
  Anyway, i thought the "incomparable Kamal-wannabe, Basket Head, 'propped-up-as-Kamal-comptetitor-dancing-sensation" was Anand babu! Semma dancing stunt ellam kaatuvare!
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 2:58:31 2009.

  Don't you dare!
  Anand Babu was an excellent dancer but thats about the only department he was superior to Kamal.
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Thu Sep 24 3:27:59 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Don't you dare! Anand Babu was an excellent dancer but thats about the only department he was superior to Kamal.

  
  
  Opinion differs NOV. Aerobic moves can hardly be considered as dancing. But that's my personal opinion
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 24 7:46:54 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Anand Babu was an excellent dancer but thats about the only department he was superior to Kamal.

  
  
  IMO only guy who was superior to kamal in dancing was Prabhu Deva.....vijay & hrithik nesstu batch
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Sep 24 7:49:59 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  NOV wrote: Anand Babu was an excellent dancer but thats about the only department he was superior to Kamal. IMO only guy who was superior to kamal in dancing was Prabhu Deva.....vijay & hrithik nesstu batch

  
  
  
  
  NOV Kamal kku dance ae varaathunnu solluvaaru
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 9:10:08 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  NOV Kamal kku dance ae varaathunnu solluvaaru

  
  kashtta pattaa konjam varum
  
  maddy, pls STOP bunching hindi films with tamil ones. I dont give a damn about hindi films
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 24 9:19:49 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  maddy, pls STOP bunching hindi films with tamil ones. I dont give a damn about hindi films

  
  
  tamil films sectionla hindi films discussion theva illa dhaan.....got it
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 9:24:10 2009.

  appadi illa sudhir, every time we talk abt tamil films and music, inevitably you bring in hindi.
  I'm sure there are good czechoslovakian films too, but I am simply not interested.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 24 9:50:37 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  appadi illa sudhir, every time we talk abt tamil films and music, inevitably you bring in hindi.

  
  
  yes, i got it - i bring hindi films unintentionally though, cos 2 industries are closely interconnected.....
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 9:53:10 2009.

  thanks for understanding sudhir
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Sep 24 10:49:06 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  I'm sure there are good czechoslovakian films too, but I am simply not interested.

  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 24 11:11:30 2009.

  joe wrote:

  NOV wrote: I'm sure there are good czechoslovakian films too, but I am simply not interested.

  
  
  yea - i got it.......hindi is one of the Indian languages and i still hold that respect for that language
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Sep 24 11:13:15 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe wrote: NOV wrote: I'm sure there are good czechoslovakian films too, but I am simply not interested. yea - i got it.......hindi is one of the Indian languages and i still hold that respect for that language

  
  
  I have respect for both Hindi and czechoslovakian ,for that matter any language in the world.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Sep 24 11:31:50 2009.

  yeah, joe, while on breaking boundaries, why restrict to India, indeed?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Sep 24 11:49:41 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  yeah, joe, while on breaking boundaries, why restrict to India, indeed?

  
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  cos 2 industries are closely interconnected

  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Sep 24 12:11:36 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Plum wrote: yeah, joe, while on breaking boundaries, why restrict to India, indeed? MADDY wrote: cos 2 industries are closely interconnected

  
  
  I may sound a Thamizh Drohi .. but from my traveling experience to countries like Nepal, B'desh, Maldives, Myanmar, some parts of India (and shortly to Pakistan and Afghanistan) .. I have realised that Hindi is one of the important link languages and your life can be quite easy if you are conversant with it. ippO koncham kathukka aarambichirukkEn. Reading easy'a varuthu.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Sep 24 12:21:08 2009.

  Roshan, adhu ennamO nejam dhAn. But ange dhaan strategyE - they steadfastly refuse to recognise other languages and are loud and brash about their languages. Sri lankan tamils numerous-A irukkara oorla kooda, these guys assume indian looking fellows know hindi. That arrogance helps in creating the impression that hindi is all pervading.
  
  IppollAm chennaileye cab drivers and security chaps hindila dhaan pesaranga. In a few days yopu might add tn to your lsit of nepal etc
  
  

• From: P_R on Thu Sep 24 12:24:35 2009.

  Roshan, no-one becomes a 'drohi' by learning it. The difference is when it is 'made incumbent upon someone to learn it'. Life becomes easy -nu aarambichA, will progressively lead to certain unpleasant consequences. Ippo time illai..will elaborate later
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Sep 24 12:25:59 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Roshan, adhu ennamO nejam dhAn. But ange dhaan strategyE - they steadfastly refuse to recognise other languages and are loud and brash about their languages. Sri lankan tamils numerous-A irukkara oorla kooda, these guys assume indian looking fellows know hindi. That arrogance helps in creating the impression that hindi is all pervading. IppollAm chennaileye cab drivers and security chaps hindila dhaan pesaranga. In a few days yopu might add tn to your lsit of nepal etc

  
  
  I perfectly understand that Plum.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Sep 24 13:51:41 2009.

  with respect to hindhi in TN
  
  recently in vikatan loosu payyan column..
  
  Baagul boondhi(rahul) in discussion with TN congress leader...
  
  One of the leader : "kujay nai....kujaykanth hai"
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 20:06:55 2009.

  I dont hate Hindi either - as a language its very pleasant to the ears. But for me, its useless; I'd rather learn mandarin or japanese. Outside India, Hindi has no place. In fact you can get by with Tamil more than with Hindi.
  
  As rightly mentioned by a few others, its the "thinuchufication" that makes many irritated.
  
  Couple of years ago, I was flying between KL and Chennai on Air India. Both Malaysia and Chennai are Tamil speaking areas yet the steward had the gall to answer our questions in Hindi, as though its a world language.
  This, from ppl who travel around the world.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Sep 24 23:41:50 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  I dont hate Hindi either - as a language its very pleasant to the ears. But for me, its useless; I'd rather learn mandarin or japanese. Outside India, Hindi has no place. In fact you can get by with Tamil more than with Hindi.

  
  
  I completely disagree NOV. In all those countries I have listed above (and in all middle eastern countries) , Hindi is widely spoken and it's very easy if you know the language. It's my sheer experience. I am surprised to learn as to how Hindi can be useful even in an East Asian country like Myanmar. I have heard my colleagues from Cambodia and Vietnam talk a lot about Hindi Movies. Burmese here watch a lot of Hindi movies and I have seen teenage girls raving for posters and pictures of Sharukh and Hrithik.
  
  Even my colleagues who come from different states of India (Karnataka, Orissa, West Bengal, Kerala etc) use Hindi mostly for communication.
  
  Having said this I completely understand the points raised against Hindi in TN. Nevertheless I need to mention that Hindi as a link language is growing faster but Thamizh will remain only with Thamizhars (even that is questionable given the influence of English among our Thamizhars)
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 24 23:53:06 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  Nevertheless I need to mention that Hindi as a link language is growing faster but Thamizh will remain only with Thamizhars.

  forget abt hindi movies... are you saying that non-Indians are speaking Hindi in those countries you've mentioned?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 0:01:10 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Nevertheless I need to mention that Hindi as a link language is growing faster but Thamizh will remain only with Thamizhars. forget abt hindi movies... are you saying that non-Indians are speaking Hindi in those countries you've mentioned?

  
  
  AdhathAn solREn. Napalese, Bangladeshis, Burmese, Pakistanis, Afghanis and even Arabs (I have seen in UAE Arabs speaking Hindi/Urdu) ippadi all locals speak Hindi. Ofcourse they have their own mother tongue but they can speak Hindi too and they use it as a link language. Thamizh has no place what so ever as link language among non Thamizhars.
  
  Even Thamizh Burmese (ancestors from TN) cannot speak Thamizh but they are very fluent in Hindi.
  
  Oh just remembered another country Thajkistan. A Thajkis colleague of mine speaks Hindi well and he said they are generally conversant with Hindi.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Sep 25 0:04:46 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  NOV wrote: Roshan wrote: Nevertheless I need to mention that Hindi as a link language is growing faster but Thamizh will remain only with Thamizhars. forget abt hindi movies... are you saying that non-Indians are speaking Hindi in those countries you've mentioned? AdhathAn solREn. Napalese, Bangladeshis, Burmese, Pakistanis and even Arabs (I have seen in UAE Arabs speaking Hindi/Urdu) ippadi all locals speak Hindi. Ofcourse they have their own mother tongue but they can speak Hindi too and they use it as a link language. Thamizh has no place what so ever as link language among non Thamizhars. Even Thamizh Burmese (ancestors from TN) cannot speak Thamizh but they are very fluent in Hindi. Oh just remembered another country Thajkistan. A Thajkis colleague of mine speaks Hindi well and he said they are generally conversant with Hindi.

  
  
  nepal,pakistan,afganistan,burma,tajkistan kellaam ethana tamilians porangannu ninaikireenga?
  
  link languagenu sollitu edhuku indha countrieslam soldreengannu purila?
  
  do u mean that we need hindi to connect india,pak,bangladesh,nepal etc?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 0:05:56 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Roshan wrote: NOV wrote: Roshan wrote: Nevertheless I need to mention that Hindi as a link language is growing faster but Thamizh will remain only with Thamizhars. forget abt hindi movies... are you saying that non-Indians are speaking Hindi in those countries you've mentioned? AdhathAn solREn. Napalese, Bangladeshis, Burmese, Pakistanis and even Arabs (I have seen in UAE Arabs speaking Hindi/Urdu) ippadi all locals speak Hindi. Ofcourse they have their own mother tongue but they can speak Hindi too and they use it as a link language. Thamizh has no place what so ever as link language among non Thamizhars. Even Thamizh Burmese (ancestors from TN) cannot speak Thamizh but they are very fluent in Hindi. Oh just remembered another country Thajkistan. A Thajkis colleague of mine speaks Hindi well and he said they are generally conversant with Hindi. nepal,pakistan,afganistan,burma,tajkistan kellaam ethana indians porangannu ninaikireenga?

  
  
  neenga vazhakkampOla sariyA comprehend paNNama kELvi kEkka aarambichuteenga
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 0:10:03 2009.

  I also dont think South Asia alone is a representation of the world. Pakistan, Bangladesh were all part of India once.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Sep 25 0:14:00 2009.

  -edited-
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 0:14:13 2009.

  wow, roshan, thanks for the info.....really feels good that Hindi is a popular language in other countries too .......
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:15:09 2009.

  NOV,
  if you check the geographical structure ..TN has no land border with any country ,But Tamilians were known for sea way sailing ,so the countries they had links are through sea ,thus south east asia ..Whereas North India has land borders with many countries and their link with those countries are obviously more compare to Tamil nadu ..
  
  So it is not a surprise that West has more Hindi influence and East has more tamil influence.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 0:17:07 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  I also dont think South Asia alone is a representation of the world. Pakistan, Bangladesh were all part of India once.

  
  
  I am not talking about South Asai alone. Even if we go by your question - Pakistan or Bangladesh which were part of India - had known Hindi but not Thamizh. Again repeatu.. Hindi is very stronger as a link language among many communities whose mother tongue is not Hindi but Thamizh has no place or very minimal use among people whose mother tongue is not thamizh. ithukku mEla viLakkam solRathunnA naan Hindi'la thAn sollanum
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Sep 25 0:18:46 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  NOV wrote: I also dont think South Asia alone is a representation of the world. Pakistan, Bangladesh were all part of India once. I am not talking about South Asai alone. Even if we go by your question - Pakistan or Bangladesh which were part of India - had known Hindi but not Thamizh. Again repeatu..Hindi is very stronger as a link language among many communities whose mother tongue is not Hindi but Thamizh has no place or very minimal use among people whose mother tongue is not thamizh.ithukku mEla viLakkam solRathunnA naan Hindi'la thAn sollanum

  
  
  inga yaarum tamila link languagea use panna sollave illaye!
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:21:16 2009.

  NOV,
  This is why I used to say .. North indians are more related to Pakistanis than tamils and Tamil are more related to Srilanka ,singapore ,malaysia than northies .
  
  Noth indians -m Tamil nadu Tamils-m oru nattula vanthu sikkikitom (British kaaranala) ..avvaLavu thaan.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Sep 25 0:22:29 2009.

  joe wrote:

  NOV, This is why I used to say .. North indians are more related to Pakistanis than tamils and Tamil are more related to Srilanka ,singapore ,malaysia than northies . Noth indians -m Tamil nadu Tamils-m oru nattula vanthu sikkikitom (British kaaranala) ..avvaLavu thaan.

  
  
  pOint!
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 0:23:37 2009.

  Roshan. That is, excuse the liberty, very simplistic. I think prabhu ram touched upon an important point, but said he'll expand it later. Let me take the liberty of guessing it and expanding in my own terms.
  
  The whole point behind your perception is that it is desired for and actively pursued. Hindi wallahs shamelessly use hindi everyewhere as nov mentioned. Instead of falling for that saying its a link language, if we ignore it and insist on loud tamil, the perceptions will change. Instead, we are going for propoganda anbd falling in the trap. Very sad.
  Australia-la there is irrittion among the whites that indians loudly speak their language in public and show no sense of being in a public place. EvLO affect aayirundhA ipdi react pannuvAnga. So, their brash, shameless promotion of their language works in some places, and invites wrath elsewhere. Idhula, sl atrocities appo vaai pothi irukkum manmohanar, australaia-la hindikaaran araajagam thaangaama, australaia kaaran react panninaa, racism-nu loovuvaar. Adhaan hindi politics! Vengaayam link language!
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:25:51 2009.

  In Cambodia and vietnam ,until few years back Mostly Hindi and some Tamil movies used to be dubbed (except songs) and screened in theatres ,but now no more ..It is fully replaced by Korean movies.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:28:29 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Instead of falling for that saying its a link language, if we ignore it and insist on loud tamil, the perceptions will change. Instewad, we are going for propoganda anbd falling in the trap. Very sad.

  
  
  Exactly ..Singapore-la vanthu singapore Tamilan-kku yen Hindi theriyilla-nnu kekkuran aRivu ketta north indians .
  
  namakkellam konjam suraNai venum .
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Sep 25 0:30:09 2009.

  Marupadiyum Hindi / Tamil prachchanai aarambichaachaa
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 0:30:33 2009.

  Plum
  
  My resposnse was to NOV who said Hindi has no use out of India. That is completely wrong. So I had to clarify.
  
  Regarding TN matter, I understand it pretty well and I agree with what you or PR are trying to say. ithu hubla niRaiya vAtti debate paNNapatta topic
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Sep 25 0:36:38 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Exactly ..Singapore-la vanthu singapore Tamilan-kku yen Hindi theriyilla-nnu kekkuran aRivu ketta north indians . namakkellam konjam suraNai venum .

  
  
  Inga kooda konjam north indians irukalaam. So better to watch our language
  
  Tamizhargal ellaarumae maththavangala mathikka theriyaatha aatkal nnu pothuvaana ennam yaarukkum vanthida koodaathu paarunga
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Sep 25 0:39:03 2009.

  Roshan wrote:

  Plum My resposnse was to NOV who said Hindi has no use out of India. That is completely wrong. So I had to clarify.

  
  
  ooooo.......ipdithaaan palathadava asingapadradhu..
  
  udra udra!
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:44:27 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  joe wrote: Exactly ..Singapore-la vanthu singapore Tamilan-kku yen Hindi theriyilla-nnu kekkuran aRivu ketta north indians . namakkellam konjam suraNai venum . Inga kooda konjam north indians irukalaam. So better to watch our language Tamizhargal ellaarumae maththavangala mathikka theriyaatha aatkal nnu pothuvaana ennam yaarukkum vanthida koodaathu paarunga

  
  
  Avanunga mathavangala mathichi kiLichanunga
  
  Tamils mathavangala mathikkirathu pathi avanunga kitta irunthu onnum certificate thevayilla
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 0:45:15 2009.

  i really feel guilty for triggering this round of discussions ......no more indhi here - only INDIAN films section - kamman there guys
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Sep 25 0:53:34 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: joe wrote: Exactly ..Singapore-la vanthu singapore Tamilan-kku yen Hindi theriyilla-nnu kekkuran aRivu ketta north indians . namakkellam konjam suraNai venum . Inga kooda konjam north indians irukalaam. So better to watch our language Tamizhargal ellaarumae maththavangala mathikka theriyaatha aatkal nnu pothuvaana ennam yaarukkum vanthida koodaathu paarunga Avanunga mathavangala mathichi kiLichanunga Tamils mathavangala mathikkirathu pathi avanunga kitta irunthu onnum certificate thevayilla

  
  
  naanga pala varusham north india la irunthuttu thaan vanthoam.. engala yaarum asinga paduthala
  
  ellaam vidunga.. ungalukku ethuvum thaeva illa right.. inga konjam paerukku ellaarum thaeva padalaam.. we are dependent to each other at least for the sake of daily communication...
  
  inga ethukku sambantham illaama thittanum
  
  ungalukku NI mathikanumnu avasiyam illainae vachchikalaam.. appadi oruththar inga vanthu asingamaa pothuvaa ellaa tamizhars paththi paesinaa ellaarumae summaa irukka mudiyumaa.. illa appadiyae kandukaama thaan vittuttu poaga mudiyumaa ellaaraalayum
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 0:56:53 2009.

  TM,
  Unga advice-kku nanri ..Romba paathachu
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 1:08:49 2009.

  Would it cool this thread down if I were to say that many Malaysian Malays, Chinese, Eurasians have picked up Tamil. True, Hindi films are more watched by Malays, but they are happy with the subtitles. Culturally they identify more with Tamizhans...I suppose the same is happening in Singapore. I had a Malay pal who can sing Hallo Miss, yengga porengga and Ennadi Rakkama in full. So, there you go...
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:19:58 2009.

  I've to add here that I personally have had no issues with my ni acquaintances. The only irritant is the slip to hindi unconsciously but since professionally I need them, I don't mind. However, when someone comes to chennai and start their priceless "why can't hindi be spoken here" or in malaysia, then I get hot under the collar. What joe says is true - there are typical north indians who complain that by default indian looking people are asumed to be tamil in malaysia. When we say tamil is a major language there, why don't you learn it just like you ask us to learn hindi in India, they descend to illogical arguments.
  That is what iritates me. And then imagine the plight of malaysian tamils who have no use for hindi at all!
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 1:21:56 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  And then imagine the plight of malaysians who have no use for hindi at all!

  Except when they are made fun of in Malay comedies
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 1:28:41 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  However, when someone comes to chennai nd start their priceless "why can't hindi be spoken here" or in malaysia, then I get hot under the collar

  
  
  if u ask Bala - he would tell you tamilian examples in pune/b'lore offices who ask "machan ivanukku thamizh theriyaadhada"? ......apart from some rediffboard racist bufoons, i have no problem with indhi or north indhiyans......
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:33:37 2009.

  grouch, I meant malaysian tamils. Edited the post now.
  The crux being this:
  An average North Indian(or even Oriyan who has bought into "hindi is natl lang" theme!) come to Malaysia, sees tamil people, * and starts assuming that they are tamil, so Indian, therefore hindi is their national language and has the gall to be irritated that at hotels and malls, people address them in tamil *because they look Indian*. Avanga mozhilaye idhai vivarikkaNumna "ulta chor kotwal ko daaante"-nu solvainga(translation: policekaaranai arrest pandraanam thirudan) . So, they have two complaints
  1. Yeh log tamil(indian) hoke bhi hindi kyon nahin bolte yaar?
  2. Mujhse tamil mein kyon baat karte hai yaar?
  
  The irony of their ignorance and arrogance between 1 & 2 is lost on them - and I am not talking of exceptions - this is the default north indian
  
  So, a tamil in malaysia must speak hindi to them is their attitude - and that deserves to be condemned, derided, laughed at, satirised and caricatured until sense is drilled into their thick skulls, i'd say. I say it as someone with 100's of sane north indian acquanitances
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 1:37:35 2009.

  Plum,
  எங்கள் மொழி அதிகாரபூர்வ மொழியாக இருக்கிற நாடுகள் உட்பட எங்கும் வேற்று மொழிக்காரன் எவரையும் நாங்கள் எங்கள் மொழியை கட்டாயம் படிக்க வேண்டும் என்று நாங்கள் வற்புறுத்துவதும் இல்லை ,எதிர் பார்ப்பதும் இல்லை ,அல்லது சுயமரியாதையில்லாமல் எங்கள் மொழியை அடுத்தவன் மேல் திணிப்பது இல்லை .. அது தான் அடுத்தவர்களை நாங்கள் மதிப்பதற்கு அடையாளம் .அதே நேரத்தில் எந்த மொழியானாலும் எங்களுக்கு தேவையானால் நாங்கள் படித்துக் கொள்வோம் .
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:42:30 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Plum, எங்கள் மொழி அதிகாரபூர்வ மொழியாக இருக்கிற நாடுகள் உட்பட எங்கும் வேற்று மொழிக்காரன் எவரையும் நாங்கள் எங்கள் மொழியை கட்டாயம் படிக்க வேண்டும் என்று நாங்கள் வற்புறுத்துவதும் இல்லை ,எதிர் பார்ப்பதும் இல்லை ,அல்லது சுயமரியாதையில்லாமல் எங்கள் மொழியை அடுத்தவன் மேல் திணிப்பது இல்லை .. அது தான் அடுத்தவர்களை நாங்கள் மதிப்பதற்கு அடையாளம் .அதே நேரத்தில் எந்த மொழியானாலும் எங்களுக்கு தேவையானால் நாங்கள் படித்துக் கொள்வோம் .

  
  
  joe, I assume you are aware that I am not saying otherwise - idhai thaan naanum solrEn
  
  Watch out for my next post - I will get an online specimen which does exactly what I generalised above about North Indians - I know exactly what I am talking about.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 1:43:07 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  So, a tamil in malaysia must speak hindi to them is their attitude - and that deserves to be condemned, derided, laughed at, satirised and caricatured until sense is drilled into their thick skulls, i'd say. I say it as someone with 100's of sane north indian acquanitances

  Well, never been a problem for us here. Here, any Malaysian Indian expect other Malaysian Indians to speak or at least understand Tamil, being that Tamizhans are majority here. Only the Sikhs speak what even they complain as cinematic Hindi. And a great number of Sikhs speak Tamizh too, some like a native. I have met many India Indians, north of south over the years and none has expected me to understand Hindi.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 1:43:45 2009.

  எங்கள் மொழியை அடுத்தவர் மேல் திணிக்காத எங்களுக்கு அடுத்தவரை மதிப்பதை பற்றி அறிவுரை சொல்ல ,மானம் வெட்கம் இல்லாமல் தன் மொழியை அடுத்தவர் மேல் கட்டாயமாக திணிக்க முற்படும் வட இந்திய காரனுக்கு என்ன யோக்கியதை இருக்கிறது என கேட்கிறேன்.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 1:44:09 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  grouch, I meant malaysian tamils. Edited the post now. The crux being this: An average North Indian(or even Oriyan who has bought into "hindi is natl lang" theme!) come to Malaysia, sees tamil people, * and starts assuming that they are tamil, so Indian, therefore hindi is their national language and has the gall to be irritated that at hotels and malls, people address them in tamil *because they look Indian*. Avanga mozhilaye idhai vivarikkaNumna "ulta chor kotwal ko daaante"-nu solvainga(translation: policekaaranai arrest pandraanam thirudan) . So, they have two complaints 1. Yeh log tamil(indian) hoke bhi hindi kyon nahin bolte yaar? 2. Mujhse tamil mein kyon baat karte hai yaar? The irony of their ignorance and arrogance between 1 & 2 is lost on them - and I am not talking of exceptions - this is the default north indian So, a tamil in malaysia must speak hindi to them is their attitude - and that deserves to be condemned, derided, laughed at, satirised and caricatured until sense is drilled into their thick skulls, i'd say. I say it as someone with 100's of sane north indian acquanitances

  
  
  to be fair to "sane" north indians, me , though not a tamilian, born in chennai didnt know tamil was official language in singapore for many years and didnt know singapore tamils are not indians.......i think these things like malaysian tamils are different from India are some facts which they wouldnt know like we dont know there are some 10-12 subsects of hIndi within UP/Bihar - i think we can excuse them for this......
  
  problem in the past, as joe said, they wanted to make hindi all prevailing in a artificial way by enforcing it everywhere - that surely has left a bad taste in all our mouths forever......the problem in today's scenario is some north indian media, racist buffoons are hellbent on mocking south indians as a whole and tamilians in particular - other north indians's inaction against them is most worriesome.....
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 1:44:44 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  joe wrote: Plum, எங்கள் மொழி அதிகாரபூர்வ மொழியாக இருக்கிற நாடுகள் உட்பட எங்கும் வேற்று மொழிக்காரன் எவரையும் நாங்கள் எங்கள் மொழியை கட்டாயம் படிக்க வேண்டும் என்று நாங்கள் வற்புறுத்துவதும் இல்லை ,எதிர் பார்ப்பதும் இல்லை ,அல்லது சுயமரியாதையில்லாமல் எங்கள் மொழியை அடுத்தவன் மேல் திணிப்பது இல்லை .. அது தான் அடுத்தவர்களை நாங்கள் மதிப்பதற்கு அடையாளம் .அதே நேரத்தில் எந்த மொழியானாலும் எங்களுக்கு தேவையானால் நாங்கள் படித்துக் கொள்வோம் . joe, I assume you are aware that I am not saying otherwise - idhai thaan naanum solrEn

  
  
  தெரியும் ..உங்களுக்கு புரியும் என்பதால் உங்களிடம் சொல்கிறேன்.
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:47:59 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Plum wrote: However, when someone comes to chennai and start their priceless "why can't hindi be spoken here" or in malaysia, then I get hot under the collar if u ask Bala - he would tell you tamilian examples in pune/b'lore offices who ask "machan ivanukku thamizh theriyaadhada"? ......apart from some rediffboard racist bufoons, i have no problem with indhi or north indhiyans......

  
  
  Maddy, thats living in denial. I'll let Bala answer that - but if you are saying that tamils who expect tamil in pune are as numerous and typical as north indians expecting hindi in Chennai, then I'll have to say you are living in denial. Such a specimen is indoctrinated about Hindi being the national language, and makes a political argument about why Hindi should be spoken in TN. I really dont know anyone who says why tamil should be spoken in Pune - maybe out of jest or out of a personal sense of helplessness but are you seriously saying that there are tamils who argue tamil is the national language? Let me tell you, in my long life across India, I havent met a single tamil who says that whereas I have met numerous north indians who politically wnat Hindi to subjugate othr languages.
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:52:03 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Plum wrote: grouch, I meant malaysian tamils. Edited the post now. The crux being this: An average North Indian(or even Oriyan who has bought into "hindi is natl lang" theme!) come to Malaysia, sees tamil people, * and starts assuming that they are tamil, so Indian, therefore hindi is their national language and has the gall to be irritated that at hotels and malls, people address them in tamil *because they look Indian*. Avanga mozhilaye idhai vivarikkaNumna "ulta chor kotwal ko daaante"-nu solvainga(translation: policekaaranai arrest pandraanam thirudan) . So, they have two complaints 1. Yeh log tamil(indian) hoke bhi hindi kyon nahin bolte yaar? 2. Mujhse tamil mein kyon baat karte hai yaar? The irony of their ignorance and arrogance between 1 & 2 is lost on them - and I am not talking of exceptions - this is the default north indian So, a tamil in malaysia must speak hindi to them is their attitude - and that deserves to be condemned, derided, laughed at, satirised and caricatured until sense is drilled into their thick skulls, i'd say. I say it as someone with 100's of sane north indian acquanitances to be fair to "sane" north indians, me , though not a tamilian, born in chennai didnt know tamil was official language in singapore for many years and didnt know singapore tamils are not indians.......i think these things like malaysian tamils are different from India are some facts which they wouldnt know like we dont know there are some 10-12 subsects of hIndi within UP/Bihar - i think we can excuse them for this...... problem in the past, as joe said, they wanted to make hindi all prevailing in a artificial way by enforcing it everywhere - that surely has left a bad taste in all our mouths forever......the problem in today's scenario is some north indian media, racist buffoons are hellbent on mocking south indians as a whole and tamilians in particular - other north indians's inaction against them is most worriesome.....

  
  
  Maddy, there's a problem with this. You are equating two unequal things. Not knowing the caste subsects in Bihar is equivalent to not knowing caste subsects in TN.
  
  Secondly, who asked a north indian to know that tamil is national language in Malaysia? Just dont assume that hindi is the natl language there, adhaan naanga solradhu. Whereas, I am sure you know enough specimen who said that. I think Joe said it succinctly:
  "எங்கள் மொழியை அடுத்தவர் மேல் திணிக்காத எங்களுக்கு அடுத்தவரை மதிப்பதை பற்றி அறிவுரை சொல்ல ,மானம் வெட்கம் இல்லாமல் தன் மொழியை அடுத்தவர் மேல் கட்டாயமாக திணிக்க முற்படும் வட இந்திய காரனுக்கு என்ன யோக்கியதை இருக்கிறது என கேட்கிறேன்"
  
  Maddy, ungaLuku puriyara baashaila sollaNumnu dhaan ipdi sonnaen:
  "ulta chor kotwal ko daante". This is what is happening with North Indians.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 1:55:03 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Plum wrote: However, when someone comes to chennai and start their priceless "why can't hindi be spoken here" or in malaysia, then I get hot under the collar if u ask Bala - he would tell you tamilian examples in pune/b'lore offices who ask "machan ivanukku thamizh theriyaadhada"? ......apart from some rediffboard racist bufoons, i have no problem with indhi or north indhiyans...... Maddy, thats living in denial. I'll let Bala answer that - but if you are saying that tamils who expect tamil in pune are as numerous and typical as north indians expecting hindi in Chennai, then I'll have to say you are living in denial. Such a specimen is indoctrinated about Hindi being the national language, and makes a political argument about why Hindi should be spoken in TN. I really dont know anyone who says why tamil should be spoken in Pune - maybe out of jest or out of a personal sense of helplessness but are you seriously saying that there are tamils who argue tamil is the national language? Let me tell you, in my long life across India, I havent met a single tamil who says that whereas I have met numerous north indians who politically wnat Hindi to subjugate othr languages.

  
  
  illa illa, its not that they think tamil is national language but i do say there are people like this and if a north indian comes across them, he would lament the same way as u r......but i totally agree that "insane" north indians count is more than these tamil priyars......
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 1:55:35 2009.

  I am not talking about the north indian media or buffoons, I am talking about the perfectly normal, average North Indian. These are dudes who are perfectly sensible otherwise but indoctrinated on the national language issue - to me, this is what is sad. They *believe* that Hindi has a god-given right to dominate.
  
  maddy, tell me this, Australiala En indian-ai adikkarAn - I have lot of people there - Indians - who complain that they have been living in peace for years and suddenly the problem is with affluent north indian students who flaunt loud hindi, and play hindi music loudly in public places and tend to confront the locals with "why should we speak your langauge". Because of these guys, our people - and even poor srilankan tamils - get mistaken for indians and get hit. Clearly, these guys have an attitude issue - wherever we go, our langauge must dominate kind of attitude.
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 2:02:06 2009.

  Ok, now let me elucidate with an illustration
  Short notes about this blogger:
  1. Went to Singapore for studying
  2. Oriyan who takes great pride that unlike some of her brethren, she speaks the national language Hindi
  3. Argues that Hindi is national language in India, and it is convenient if everyone including tamils in India spoke Hindi
  4. But equally, it is unnecessary for her to know tamil in singapore because even though it is a national language there and will be useful for her to learn, she will not deign to learn tamil.
  5. This is not an uneducated north indian boof - this is an educated, middle-class, otherwise sensible person. And the fact that such peiople cannot see the irony between 3 & 4 is precisely what I am drivint at
  
  P.S: Request everyone here not to rake it up in that blog by commenting on the issue there. Just wanted to illustrate - it's a two year old post so no point debating it there now.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 2:05:34 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Maddy, ungaLuku puriyara baashaila sollaNumnu dhaan ipdi sonnaen: "ulta chor kotwal ko daante". This is what is happening with North Indians.

  
  
  hey, me indhi 3rd languvej yaar
  
  i completely understand ur disgust and joe's disgust, its just that i dont share that intensity.....
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  maddy, tell me this, Australiala En indian-ai adikkarAn - I have lot of people there - Indians - who complain that they have been living in peace for years and suddenly the problem is with affluent north indian students who flaunt loud hindi, and play hindi music loudly in public places and tend to confront the locals with "why should we speak your langauge". Because of these guys, our people - and even poor srilankan tamils - get mistaken for indians and get hit. Clearly, these guys have an attitude issue - wherever we go, our langauge must dominate kind of attitude.

  
  
  somehow i disagree with justification for violence here.....its just that i believe indhi guys more than australians - i could be wrong but ......being in mumbai, u do feel a sickening disgust for the bhayyas from north but somehow i find they are ignorant and not arrogant.......also, the average indhi guys' attitude is not right but its pretty harmless - i would say.......let him blabber yaar
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 2:18:25 2009.

  inge Mumbai-la sollaNumnA, the marathis are sick and tired. Unlike placid tamils, these guys are talking the language of sticks - but the media and the political class of India is canny enough to paint them as villains, and the bhaiyyas as victims. In truth, the bhaiyya is responsbile for his own fate in Mumbai.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 2:22:55 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  inge Mumbai-la sollaNumnA, the marathis are sick and tired. Unlike placid tamils, these guys are talking the language of sticks - but the media and the political class of India is canny enough to paint them as villains, and the bhaiyyas as victims. In truth, the bhaiyya is responsbile for his own fate in Mumbai.

  
  
  marathis woke up too late
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Sep 25 2:47:34 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I've to add here that I personally have had no issues with my ni acquaintances. The only irritant is the slip to hindi unconsciously but since professionally I need them, I don't mind.

  
  Just a little response specifically to this point. adhu iyaRga dhAn. In this kind of situations, I've often found that the speaker is much more comfortable in the native language (whichever it be) than English; so much that I find it a bit unjust to expect him or her to say the same in English. It's ok yaar, mutti mOdhi purinjukka vENdiyadhu dhAn.
  
  On a side note, Kamal is one of those filmmakers who consistently and wonderfully captures this "decentred" and disordered situation that is the reality all over India.
  
  

• From: Appu s on Fri Sep 25 2:50:41 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I've to add here that I personally have had no issues with my ni acquaintances. The only irritant is the slip to hindi unconsciously but since professionally I need them, I don't mind. However, when someone comes to chennai and start their priceless "why can't hindi be spoken here" or in malaysia, then I get hot under the collar. What joe says is true - there are typical north indians who complain that by default indian looking people are asumed to be tamil in malaysia. When we say tamil is a major language there, why don't you learn it just like you ask us to learn hindi in India, they descend to illogical arguments. That is what iritates me. And then imagine the plight of malaysian tamils who have no use for hindi at all!

  
  
  i totally agree with joe and Plum here that we dont hate any language but when its imposition, we are against it, but its no where related to what Roshan tried to tell here, agree with her too that hindi is the link language in the countries she mentioned.
  
  the problem is most of the Northies think that Hindi is the National language, how many of them known the history of 3 languages formula? ada maangai mandaigala Hindi mattum National language kidyathu nnu sonna purinjikka maattanga, for that matter we dont have national language , how many of them aware that? Indians should know hindi .. its hindustani nnu plain oru statement koduppanuga.. namakku BP yeratham micham
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 2:59:01 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  inge Mumbai-la sollaNumnA, the marathis are sick and tired. Unlike placid tamils, these guys are talking the language of sticks - but the media and the political class of India is canny enough to paint them as villains, and the bhaiyyas as victims. In truth, the bhaiyya is responsbile for his own fate in Mumbai.

  
  Hey ! You are taking this a little too far I am afraid.
  Someone eking out his existence on this street does not 'deserve' to have his skull cracked by a Marathi goon no matter what. No matter what. There is no justifying Thakeray gumbal.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 3:01:01 2009.

  As Roshan said, her response was to NOV's post that Hindi had little currency outside India.
  
  Apart from that I guess most of us agree about this Hindi-Tamil national language thing.
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 3:14:00 2009.

  ok, I take 100% blame.
  
  anyway, I should have said outside Indian continent, and then it cannot be disputed.
  
  unless someone comes and says that business is conducted in the middle east in hindi
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 3:23:52 2009.

  Tamizh, Hindi...I say international community should pick up Klingon. Okay, I yam also escape
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 3:39:42 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  I say international community should pick up Klingon.

  
  
  A personal digression.... as a Star trek illiterate I thought it was a language when I saw the Kill Bill epigraph. I had to look it up
  
  Anyway, looks like they are working on your suggestion.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 3:49:43 2009.

  Adangkokka makka...those people need to get a life. Check out the Klingon Hamlet
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 3:51:19 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: inge Mumbai-la sollaNumnA, the marathis are sick and tired. Unlike placid tamils, these guys are talking the language of sticks - but the media and the political class of India is canny enough to paint them as villains, and the bhaiyyas as victims. In truth, the bhaiyya is responsbile for his own fate in Mumbai. Hey ! You are taking this a little too far I am afraid. Someone eking out his existence on this street does not 'deserve' to have his skull cracked by a Marathi goon no matter what. No matter what. There is no justifying Thakeray gumbal.

  
  
  Right, Apologies. This is how goons are made, I guess. But ingeyym there is a substantial political bhiayya class that escalates the civil war, and is as much responsible for the anarchy as Raj Thackeray and gang-ngaradhu uNmai dhaan - I kind of got extreme while trying to say that. The marathi goon who does that is also not passionate about the issue, it is more of fun and games, and career advancement for him to do that. So, I was wrong on many counts there.
  
  What I am saying is that the marathi middle class which is kind of against the North Indians for the very reasons that we get irritated - the currency for Raj Thackeray to exist comes from these people more than his own goons is what I should have said. Politically, he cannot survive for a day without this disillusionment among the middle and lower-middle classes for Bhaiyyas, and their domineering ways. I agree that the taxi driver, who minds his own business doesnt deserve to be skull-cracked by the marathi goons. Apolgoies for getting carried away with my own rhetoric.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 4:50:24 2009.

  இந்தி மொழி சுற்று வட்டாரத்தில் பிரபலமாகவும் ,இணைப்பு மொழியாகவும் இருப்பதில் நமக்கென்ன வருத்தம் ..மகிழ்ச்சியே .அது வியப்புக்குரியதும் அல்ல ..எனென்றால் சமஸ்கிருதம் ,இந்தி ,உருது மற்றும் அந்த பகுதி வட்டார மொழிகள் ஒன்றுக்கொன்று தொடர்புடையவை ..ஆனால் தமிழ் அந்த மொழி குடும்பத்தை சார்ந்ததல்ல . வழக்கில் கலந்து விட்ட சில சமஸ்கிருதத்தை விலக்கி தனித்து நிற்கும் தன்மையுடையது .
  
  எந்த மொழிக்கும் நாம் எதிரி அல்ல ..ஆனால் மற்றவர் நம்மை எதால் அளக்கிறார்களோ அதை வைத்தே நாம் மற்றவரை அளக்க முடியும் .
  
  நாம் யாரையும் ஆக்கிரமிக்க அவசியம் இல்லை ..மற்றவர் நம்மை ஆக்ரமிக்க விட வேண்டிய அவசியம் இல்லை.
  
  கொஞ்சம் உணர்ச்சிவசப்பட்டுட்டேன் ..மன்னிக்க
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 25 4:55:09 2009.

  Well, you were clear, Joe. Your point was: Live and Let Live. Ambuduthaaney ?
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 4:58:50 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  .but i totally agree that "insane" north indians count is more than these tamil priyars......

  
  
  You could have said "but i totally agree that "insane" north indians count is more than these 'insane' tamilians.
  
  'tamil priyars' என்றால் யார்? தமிழ் பிரியர்கள் எந்த மொழியையும் எதிர்க்கவோ ,வெறுக்கவோ ,தம் மொழியை பிறர் மீது திணிக்கவோ அவசியம் இல்லை . தமிழ் பிரியர்கள் தமிழை நேசிப்பவர்கள் .அவ்வளவு தான் .. தமிழர்கள் மட்டுமல்ல ,அவரவர் அவரவர் தாய் மொழியை நேசிக்கட்டும் .
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 4:59:36 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Well, you were clear, Joe. Your point was: Live and Let Live. Ambuduthaaney ?

  
  
  அம்புட்டு தான்
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Sep 25 5:09:32 2009.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: .but i totally agree that "insane" north indians count is more than these tamil priyars...... You could have said "but i totally agree that "insane" north indians count is more than these 'insane' tamilians. 'tamil priyars' என்றால் யார்? தமிழ் பிரியர்கள் எந்த மொழியையும் எதிர்க்கவோ ,வெறுக்கவோ ,தம் மொழியை பிறர் மீது திணிக்கவோ அவசியம் இல்லை . தமிழ் பிரியர்கள் தமிழை நேசிப்பவர்கள் .அவ்வளவு தான் .. தமிழர்கள் மட்டுமல்ல ,அவரவர் அவரவர் தாய் மொழியை நேசிக்கட்டும் .

  
  
  oh yes, i meant it in a sarcastic way
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 5:20:10 2009.

  Naan officela oru round vElai mudichuttu vanthuttEn .. aana inga innum Hindi-Thamizh sandai mudiyala pOla irukku
  
  Anyway, thanks to all those people who understood what I said
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Sep 25 5:34:45 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  unless someone comes and says that business is conducted in the middle east in hindi

  
  Oorai Therinjikitten auction scene:
  
  Senthil (announcing): "Thubai Sekh" (to the Sheik) "Aavo aavo"
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Sep 25 5:43:18 2009.

  Mozhi-kke indha pechu pesareengale, Marathi nanbar oruthar en kitta "South mein hamesha chaaval kyon kaathe hain yaar? Roti mila hi nahin" ("South la eppavume yen sOthayE saapidraanga? Rottiye kedaikkala")
  
  Agree with Joe/Plum and also with the points about similar attitudes with us Thamizha as raised by Maddy. However, personally, i feel it is more important for us to learn Thamizh now than to worry about Hindi. Especially after coming to the hub, i am ashamed about the limit of my Thamizh knowledge and lack of Thamizh reading habit etc.. Hindi kathukkardhu romba convenient thaan but ellam thevaipattappa kathukka mudiyum, mudinjichu. I don't mean every Thamizhan is weak in Thamizh but ippo ellam Thamizh la peru kooda veikka maattengaraanga indha kaalathula, public places la kuzhandhaingaloda English la mattum pesaraanga..
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 8:09:20 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  I don't mean every Thamizhan is weak in Thamizh but ippo ellam Thamizh la peru kooda veikka maattengaraanga indha kaalathula, public places la kuzhandhaingaloda English la mattum pesaraanga..

  
  
  idhathAn nAn nEthE sonnEn Thamizh among thamizhars itself is questionable given the influence of English.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 10:16:08 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  public places la kuzhandhaingaloda English la mattum pesaraanga..

  
  
  There're tens of thousands of Indians in the metro Detroit area here in MI with a reasonable number for each of the prominent languages (Hindi - Urdu, Gujarati, Punjabi, Telugu, Thamizh & MalayaLam).
  
  If you speak in Hindi (I'm still learning) to any one of these - obviously excluding Thamizh's who mostly cannot understand, you get a smile and reply back in Hindi. Even when my language is broken, they encourage to speak in that and not to switch to English.
  
  If I speak in MalayALam to MalayALees, an immediate treatment of extra-friendliness and continuous conversation in that language from them.
  
  If I speak in Thamizh to a Thamizhan (who is not familiar to me), the reply is in English, 99 out of 100 times.
  
  என்னத்த சொல்றது போங்க
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 10:16:13 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Thamizh la peru kooda veikka maattengaraanga indha kaalathula...

  
  
  Bala, unga poNNu pEru enakku marandhu pOchu - oru dhabaa sollunga
  (just kidding...)
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 10:20:07 2009.

  my eldest boy's name is quite unique ... விவேகவேலன்
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Sep 25 10:20:37 2009.

  English kalappu is a common problem. The official language of Bollywood and therefore, wannabes in North India is 'Hinglish' not Hindi. I suspect that the hindi in all those countries mentioned by Roshan will also be hinglish *only*.
  
  For all the hindi patru, the average guy who wants to impose hindi is likely to be as unfamiliar with premchand or urdu ghazals as we are with tamil literature.
  
  We dont speak the tamil spoken 2000 years ago. Our descendants wont speak the same tamil we speak. That is inevitable. Thats not something to fret over, for me atleast. Similarly, the hindi that is being sought to be imposed will die, too. Unto dust etc.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 10:22:57 2009.

  OTOH, my experience in Toronto was so totally different with the huge # of Thamizh speaking people there - almost feeling like being in a TN village where nice Thamizh is spoken (Yes, it's not Madurai Thamizh or kongu Thamizh but ilankai Thamizh, but without any inhibition).
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 10:25:01 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  my eldest boy's name is quite unique ... விவேகவேலன்

  
  
  பாதி இந்தி (அதாவது வடமொழி)
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 10:28:25 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  NOV wrote: my eldest boy's name is quite unique ... விவேகவேலன் பாதி இந்தி (அதாவது வடமொழி)

  nonsense
  Hindi was non existent when this name came about.
  sanskrit, I agree. but I am not against sankrit either
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 10:45:17 2009.

  கோவிச்சுக்காதீங்க NOV சார், என்னுடைய அனுமானத்தில் சமஸ்கிருதத்தின் நவீன கால வடிவு தான் இந்தி
  
  என்ன, தமிழ் நவீனப்பட்டாலும் பேரை மாற்றிக்கொள்ளவில்லை (முக்கிய காரணம் தமிழுக்கு "மதப்புனிதம்" என்ற பாரமில்லாமல் இருந்ததால், பேர் மாற்றும் கட்டாயம் வரவில்லை). அவ்வளவே
  
  மற்றபடி, எழுத்துருவிலும், சொற்களிலும், இலக்கணத்திலும் வடமொழி திரிந்து தான் இந்தி, குஜராத்தி, பஞ்சாபி எனப்பல வடிவில் உலவுகிறது.
  
  (மலையாளம் - தமிழ் மற்றும் வடமொழி 50-50)
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 10:54:59 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  கோவிச்சுக்காதீங்க NOV சார், என்னுடைய அனுமானத்தில் சமஸ்கிருதத்தின் நவீன கால வடிவு தான் இந்தி

  kObam ellaam illai app.
  but dont forget that sanskrit and tamil existed side by side and both languages borrowed from each other. OTOH I dont think tamil has borrowed anything from hindi.
  giving hindi equal status to sanskrit is like comparing sivaji ganesan with danush.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 11:12:11 2009.

  NOV,
  I was trying to reason that transformation of Thamizh of BC 1 to Thamizh of 2001 is similar to transformation of Sanskrit of BC 1 to Hindi of 2001
  
  The main difference is the north oldie doesn't want to give away its name, because of its temple connections and the traditional efforts to differentiate the clergy from the laity:-)
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 11:13:55 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Mozhi-kke indha pechu pesareengale, Marathi nanbar oruthar en kitta "South mein hamesha chaaval kyon kaathe hain yaar? Roti mila hi nahin"

  
  
  
  GM to sait in gentlemen
  sappAthi thingira neeyE ivvaLO usArA irundhA..sAlnA thingira naanga evvaLO usArA iruppOm
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 11:17:20 2009.

  One funny thing happened a couple of months back - my MalayALi friend was reading a text in MalayALam and our Punjabi friend sitting together was shocked ('how come you use so many "punjabi" words')
  
  Interestingly, current Thamizh also uses tons of such words, though not in the original form and so not easy to decipher. Simplest examples are words that mean two of the main pillars of the language itself - ilakkiyam & ilakkaNam. (lakshyA & lakshanA)
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Sep 25 11:25:47 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  OTOH I dont think tamil has borrowed anything from hindi.

  
  
  Recent find of "madrAs thamizh" borrowing from indhi :
  
  பேமானி (means dishonest in indhi)
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 11:34:33 2009.

  Tamil's contribution to SE Asia
  
  malai-oor = malayu = malaya = malaysia
  
  maalai-dheevu = maldiv = maldives
  
  moo-vaar (three rivers) = muar (in Malaysia)
  
  kadaaram = kedah (in Malaysia)
  
  raaja raaja cholan = Raja Chulan (in Indonesia and Malaysia)
  
  many many many more...
  
  in thailand, to this day, the kings inauguration is held with the recital of............. tamil vaishnavite verses.
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 11:40:16 2009.

  NOV, languages that have coexisted for ages together would have easily borrowed from each other. Nothing to get agitated about here.The 'borrowing' is unsurprisingly deeper and wider than we usually imagine.
  
  However, we only need to be conscious of our language's self-sufficiency. That can come only with conscious usage. Earlier, perhaps till the mid 20th century, Sanskritised words were used in Tamil to the extent that many people seemed to believe Tamil was perhaps dependent on Sanskrit. Much of what we read today is because of conscious, even adamant, changes in demonstrating the language's self-sufficiency.
  
  Now when we hear நடுவண் அமைச்சர் instead of மத்திய மந்திரி, it seems to odd to us because it sounds new. But imagine how someone who started saying திருவாளர் in place of ஸ்ரீமான் would have been the object of ridicule back then !
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 11:43:38 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  NOV, languages that have coexisted for ages together would have easily borrowed from each other. Nothing to get agitated about here.The 'borrowing' is unsurprisingly deeper and wider than we usually imagine.

  happily thats what I said to app
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 11:51:12 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Tamil's contribution to SE Asia malai-oor = malayu = malaya = malaysia maalai-dheevu = maldiv = maldives moo-vaar (three rivers) = muar (in Malaysia) kadaaram = kedah (in Malaysia) raaja raaja cholan = Raja Chulan (in Indonesia and Malaysia) many many many more... in thailand, to this day, the kings inauguration is held with the recital of............. tamil vaishnavite verses.

  
  
  Nov,
  You may need to read my post
  http://cdjm.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-post_14.html
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 11:51:15 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  For all the hindi patru, the average guy who wants to impose hindi is likely to be

  
  
  In my limited observation - UP (particularly Lucknow area) are of the opinion that their Hindi is the purest (to hear them "shuddha" is to know they relish the word !) and disapproves of Delhi, Bihar, MP or for that matter even other parts of UP.
  
  2-3 thadavai kaikalappu varadhukkuLLa vilakki vitturukkEn
  
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  Similarly, the hindi that is being sought to be imposed will die, too. Unto dust etc.

  Imposition is gone. It is never going to come through government channels. It is now spreading - call it Bolly Hinglish - by making popularity its own argument.
  
  In a whacky way, that is where ANNa left the debate in the parliament. When they could not agree on anything he said. The government should do anything. Just leave it to the people and let us see what naturally evolves.
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 11:59:54 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Nov, You may need to read my post

  
  
  btw joe, do you know that south american anaconda is also from tamil? aanai-kondaan (elephant killer) is the original word it seems.
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 12:02:30 2009.

  Quote:

  It is believed that about three hundred years ago, a group of South Indian Brahmins took Thiru Pavai to Cambodia and Thailand and propagated Vaishvanism in that part of the world. Dr. Nagaswamy, who just returned from Cambodia, saw a version of Thiru Pavai in the Cambodian script. According to Dr. Padma Subramaniam this fact was also known to the Pramacharya of Kanchi. He urged Padma to compose a dance based on Thiru Pavai and Thiruvam Pavai and perform it in Thailand. This she did, along with her students, during the festival of India in Thailand in1995. My daughter Priyadarshini, one of her students, also accompanied her. The Raj Guru of Thailand was present at the performance. Next day he showed the dance troupe the Thai Version of Thiru Pavai and also recited it for them. Even though his pronunciation was quite Thai they could still recognise the Tamil words. After hundreds of years and many generations of being in Thailand, the Raj Guru and other priests look just like other Thai men. However, they are the descendents of the South Indian Brahmins who brought Thiru Pavai to Thailand and are proud of their heritage. The songs are written in Thai script, but the words are the same. For generations these songs have been recited by people without even knowing their meanings.

  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 12:04:28 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: Nov, You may need to read my post btw joe, do you know that south american anaconda is also from tamil? aanai-kondaan (elephant killer) is the original word it seems.

  
  
  ஆமா தெரியும் . ஆனா அதுக்கு ஏன் இப்படி சிரிக்குறீங்க?
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 12:05:36 2009.

  Quote:

  If it might interest you, several centuries ago, Sri Vaishnava Brahmins from Srivillippuththur area of Ramanathapuram District, migrated to Thailand. Their descendants are still in Bangkok. They are known as the Thai Brahmin community. They are the Royal Praeceptors (RajaGuru)of the Thai kings. It is to be noted that the Thai kings although claim descent from the Solar Royalty and Sri Rama, are now Buddhists. But the Royal Guru happens to be the Sri Vishnava Thai Brahmins. There is a very strong tradition of Thiruppaavai hymns in Thailand. The hymn, "VaaraNam Aayiram suuzha valam vanthu" is still sung in Tamil. But of course without understanding the meaning. There are about 2000 Brahmins in Bangkok.

  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 25 12:11:01 2009.

  Tamil - Thai - English
  
  Thangam -Thongam- Gold
  Kappal -Kamban- Ship
  Malai -Male- Garland
  Krambu -Klambu- Kurry
  Kenty -Kently- Small vessel
  Appa -Pa- Father
  Thatha -Tha- Grandfather
  Amma -Me- Mother
  Guru -Gru- Teacher
  Asan -Asan- Teacher
  Puttan -Puttan- Great Grandfather
  Puthran -Puthru- Son
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 12:35:21 2009.

  joe wrote:

  NOV wrote: joe wrote: Nov, You may need to read my post btw joe, do you know that south american anaconda is also from tamil? aanai-kondaan (elephant killer) is the original word it seems. ஆமா தெரியும் . ஆனா அதுக்கு ஏன் இப்படி சிரிக்குறீங்க?

  
  
  Posted this comment in your blog
  
  

  Quote:

  ஜோ, இந்த நூலை நான் இன்னும் படிக்கவில்லை. நான் இங்கு சொல்ல இருப்பவற்றுக்கு பலத்த பதில்கள் இந்நூலில் இருக்கலாம். வரலாற்று/மொழி ஆய்வின் பலத்த சார்புகளால் மிகுந்த கடுப்படைகிறேன். சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரிகத்தின் எழுத்தை பற்றிய சமீபத்தில் வெளிவந்த ஒரு மிக முக்கியமான ஆய்வுக்கட்டுரை: (அவ்வெழுத்து மொழியின் எழுத்துவடிவமா அல்லது பிம்பங்களின் தொகுப்பா என்பதை ஆராயும் கட்டுரை - அதனால் அந்நாகரீகத்தாரின் படிப்பறிவைப் பற்றிய கட்டுரை). ஆனால் இரு சாராரும் குழாயடி சண்டை போடாத குறையாக அடித்துக்கொண்டார்கள். இதில் பொதுமக்களை சென்றடையும் புரிதல்...சுத்தம். இந்தியாவில் மட்டும் தான் வரலாற்று ஆய்வு இத்தனை அரசியல் ஆகிறது என்று நினைக்கத் தோன்றுகிறது. பொதுவாக குமரிக்கண்டம் பற்றி இதுவரை எனக்குப் படிக்கக் கிடைத்தவை அவ்வளவு உவப்பாகப் பட்டதில்லை. தொல்பொருள்/சமுத்திரவியல் சார்ந்த ஆய்வுகள் குறைவாகவும், இலக்கியம் சார்ந்த ஆய்வுகள் நிறையவும் கிடைக்கப் பெறுகின்றன. அதுவே பிரச்சனை இல்லை என்றாலும், ஆசிரியரின் அர்த்தப் படுத்துதல்களுக்கு (interpretations) பெரிய பங்கு இருக்கும் நிலை இருக்கிறது. சிலப்பதிகாரப் பாடலில் வரும் தொலைவுக் குறிப்பை ஆரம்பப்புள்ளியாக வைத்துக்கொண்டு குமரிக்கண்டத்துக்கு வரைபடம் எல்லாம் போட முனைந்திருக்கிறார்கள் ! சு.கி.ஜெயகரன் (தியோடர் பாஸ்கரனின் சகோதரர்) : 'குமரி நில நீட்சி' என்ற நூலை எழுதியிருக்கிறார். குமரிக் கண்டம் என்ற கருதுகோள் உருவான விதம், வரலாற்றில் அதன் அரசியல், அக்கருதுகோளின் 'எதிரிகள்' அதை கையில் எடுத்துக்கொண்ட முரண்நகை, கடந்தகால் ஆய்வுகளின் தன்மை, தற்கால உத்திகள், குறிப்பாக சமுத்திரவியல் - oceanography, மூலம் கண்டடைந்தவை பற்றி எழுதியிருக்கிறார். நான் படித்த அளவில் மிக திருப்திகரமான நடுநிலை ஆய்வுநூல் அது. தமிழ் சார்ந்த சொற்பிறப்பியல் (etymology) மிக சிக்கலான ஒன்று. எதை வைத்து ஒன்றை சொல்கிறார்கள் என்று சான்றுகள் கிடையாது. யூகங்கள் மூலம் கண்டடையும் தேற்றங்களே அனேகம். ஒலி ஒத்துப்போவதை மட்டும் வைத்து சொல்கிறார்களா என்று தெரியவில்லை. ஏற்கவோ, மறுக்கவோ போதிய பாண்டித்தியம் எனக்கு இல்லை. ஆனால்ல் காது இட்டுச்செல்லும் பாதையில் எனக்கு பலத்த சந்தேகம் உண்டு: ஒரு முறை ஒரு தொலைக்காட்சி நிகழ்ச்சியில் பெரியார்தாசன் சொன்னார். பெற்றோர் ஒத்தல் (parents in agreement) என்பதில் இருந்து தான் betrothal என்ற வார்த்தை வந்தது. சிரிக்காமல், மிகுந்த நம்பிக்கையுடன் ஆணித்தரமாக சொன்னார். இதை எல்லாம் எப்பிடி எதிர்வாதம் செய்வது. betroth என்பது troth (truth என்பதற்கு பொது வேர் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்) என்ற சொல்லிலிருந்து 'வாக்கு கொடுப்பது' என்ற அர்த்தப்படும்படி வந்த சொல் என்று கொஞ்சம் எளிதாகவே புரிகிறது. அதனால் தான் காதை மட்டும் நம்புவதில் எனக்கு தயக்கம். ஜெயகரனின் புத்தகமும் வசவுகள் வாங்கியிருக்கும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன். சில பகுதிகள் வாசிப்பதற்கு எளிதாக இல்லாத கரடுமுரடானவை தான். ஆனால் குமரிக்கண்டம் கருதுகோளை பல முனைகளில் இருந்து ஆராய்ந்து எழுதிய நூலாக அது எனக்குப் பட்டது. இது தொடர்பாக எனக்குத் தோன்றிய சில எண்ணங்கள்

  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 12:38:22 2009.

  Latest research findings
  http://dharumi.blogspot.com/2009/09/341.html
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Sep 25 12:39:17 2009.

  நன்றி P_R !
  
  //ஒலி ஒத்துப்போவதை மட்டும் வைத்து சொல்கிறார்களா என்று தெரியவில்லை.//
  
  இதை பதிவிலேயே தெளிவாக சொல்லியிருக்கிறேன்.."வார்த்தைகளுக்கு உள்ள ஒற்றுமைகளை விளக்கும் போது வெறும் ஓசைகள் தரும் ஒற்றுமையாக இருந்தால் அதை வலுவானதாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ள முடியாது .ஆனால் ஓசைகள் மட்டுமின்றி மூல மொழியில் கொள்ளப்படும் அர்த்தமும் , தமிழ் வார்த்தையின் அர்த்தமும் ஒன்றாக இருப்பதே வலுவான ஆதாரமாகவும் சிறப்பாகவும் இருக்கிறது."
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Sep 25 12:49:50 2009.

  joe wrote:

  நன்றி P_R ! //ஒலி ஒத்துப்போவதை மட்டும் வைத்து சொல்கிறார்களா என்று தெரியவில்லை.// இதை பதிவிலேயே தெளிவாக சொல்லியிருக்கிறேன்.."வார்த்தைகளுக்கு உள்ள ஒற்றுமைகளை விளக்கும் போது வெறும் ஓசைகள் தரும் ஒற்றுமையாக இருந்தால் அதை வலுவானதாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ள முடியாது .ஆனால் ஓசைகள் மட்டுமின்றி மூல மொழியில் கொள்ளப்படும் அர்த்தமும் , தமிழ் வார்த்தையின் அர்த்தமும் ஒன்றாக இருப்பதே வலுவான ஆதாரமாகவும் சிறப்பாகவும் இருக்கிறது."

  
  
  Yeah. I see that. In all this what happens is, after a point we are in no shape either to agree or disagree.
  
  www.valavu.blogspot.com படிச்சிருக்கீங்களா. தலையே சுத்தும்.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Sep 25 12:57:18 2009.

  ok... ippO kadaisiyA pArtha padam ennAnnu yArAvathu sollunga..
  
  Actor Raveendran'la aarambicha discussion idhu..
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Sep 26 3:52:31 2009.

  Ullam Ketkume- Damn. Girls are such kind souls
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Sep 26 12:18:04 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  Girls are such kind souls

  
  
  aamam, sonnanga nethhu BBC-la
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Sep 26 12:23:06 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  Ullam Ketkume- Damn. Girls are such kind souls

  
  
  ayyO rAmA....
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Sep 27 0:11:16 2009.

  uLLathai aLLithA
  GM show!
  
  MV: I love you (to GM's gf)
  GM: eeeee
  
  kidnA nAyE scene just got over. UA is right there among GM's best, giving him so much screen space and freedom to do whatever he feels like. In all the scenes he shows a simple yet powerful gesture enough to and his timing is just brilliant in this one. Better than mEttukudi, poovarasan, chinna jameen and all those Karthik movies he did.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Sep 27 4:26:07 2009.

  திண்டுக்கல் சாரதி - Not Bad ,time pass.
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Sep 27 6:42:20 2009.

  Parts of kunguma poovum konjum puraavum - not bad
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Sep 27 7:16:42 2009.

  Sarna wrote:

  Parts of kunguma poovum konjum puraavum - not bad

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Sep 27 7:22:51 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  Sarna wrote: Parts of kunguma poovum konjum puraavum - not bad

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Sep 27 7:48:09 2009.

  very baed movie
  
  

• From: Sarna on Sun Sep 27 7:53:34 2009.

  oh ok... but naan paarththa sila kaatchigal avvalavu mOsamaa illa.... adhaan not bad'nu sonnEn
  
  

• From: interz on Sun Sep 27 14:18:37 2009.

  Unnaipol Oruvan - A movie for common man
  
  I didnt like the first 15 mins, it was slow, but afterwards it was very excellent.
  
  The highlight of the movie is not just the leading characters performance, every one in the movie is doing their parts superb. Kamalhaasan & Mohanlal, i cant say anything new about their performance which hast been said before but its great to see two megastars in same movie. The surprise element in this movie is Ganesh Venkatraman (Abhiyum Naanum). Fits surprisingly as a brutal cop with his own rules. For a change Anuja Iyer is not scary (Sivi, Ninaithaale Inukkum).
  
  Photography is superb, it felt like watching an english movie. IS that really Shruthi Haasan doing BGM?? Doesnt sound like a debutant.
  
  Kudos to director Chakri for making a different movie and make it watchable.
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Mon Sep 28 2:45:36 2009.

  interz wrote:

  For a change Anuja Iyer is not scary (Sivi, Ninaithaale Inukkum).

  
  
  
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Wed Sep 30 3:04:32 2009.

  Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru..
  
  If you like stuff like Chinna Paappa Peria Paappa, Mayavi Maaresan then you can book your tickets for this movie. Mouli was the only saving grace of the movie.
  
  (Padam mudiyumbodhu Ajmaloda free darshan vera. Ella show mudiyumbodhum veliya nikkuraarnu kelvi)
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Wed Sep 30 4:58:19 2009.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Ella show mudiyumbodhum veliya nikkuraarnu kelvi)

  
  
  
  
  Avar thanks-giving-speech paathen, in Filmfare awards function. Romba overa a dhaan irundhadhu. The excitement of a doctor becoming an actor and getting an award was evident, but ennavo seriyaave illa.
  
  

• From: interz on Tue Oct 6 17:10:03 2009.

  Aarumugam - Not good at all.
  
  Truelly a horrible movie to watch. The problem with some directors are they think they can make movies like in 90's and get away with it today. But audiences taste have changed.
  
  Bharath is a talented actor he does his job well, he does what is expected from him. Having said that I prefer him in meaty roles intead of masala movies. Priyamani wasted, and what is with the voice, is that her own?? Ramya Krishnan the less said the better, what an evil woman.
  
  Comedy .. lots of comedy from hero introduction till climax, Suresh Krishna has good humour.
  
  Songs .. Only Yaamini sounds good. BGM and other songs are annoying.
  
  Camera, nothing special.
  
  Suresh Krishna shame on you, dont make movies that reminds of your other movies, this should be a lesson for you and the repetitive minded directors.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Oct 6 20:21:36 2009.

  Per Sollum Pillai
  
  muthuraman in dual role
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Oct 6 21:30:41 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Per Sollum Pillai muthuraman in dual role

  You mean, before AVM/Kamal Per Sollum Pillai, there was one? I recall Oorukku Oru Pillai...hmmm...
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Oct 6 21:47:12 2009.

  
  watched on astro vellithirai on monday.
  muthuraman (dual role) vijayakumari and srikanth and sripriya.
  b/w film, vijaya bhaskar music.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Oct 6 21:54:57 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  watched on astro vellithirai on monday. muthuraman (dual role) vijayakumari and srikanth and sripriya. b/w film, vijaya bhaskar music.

  What a deadly combination, I was saved...prayers to movie god not wasted.
  
  

• From: interz on Thu Oct 8 16:16:37 2009.

  Thiru Thiru Thuru Thuru - Above Average
  
  Enjoyable movie, funny at times. Its a simple story easy to follow, therefore the ending is no surprise either.
  
  Ajmal and Rupa done their part good, some hilarious arguments between them LMAO. Mouli is funny, but can a chief be that forgettable and yet be a good at business??
  
  The minus are the songs and BGM.
  
  Its a quite good debute for Nandhini (director). I hope to watch another good movie by her in the future.
  
  

• From: jaaze on Thu Oct 8 22:06:39 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Adangkokka makka...those people need to get a life. Check out the Klingon Hamlet

  
  http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?s=3694630b43cce5e8275ae59f5c4310c4&t=23618
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Oct 9 10:06:13 2009.

  A AA E EE = Anitha AAkash Elango EEswari
  
  * A neat & elegant performance / under play by Prabhu as the father of a 20+ year old girl. He fits well for white & white costume.
  
  * The narration was smooth until the introduction of Elango. Navdeep as Elango repeatedly tests your patience.
  
  * I am not going to say what is the story as there is nothing innovative in that.
  
  * Not a must watch film.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Oct 10 0:19:06 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  A AA E EE = Anitha AAkash Elango EEswari * A neat & elegant performance / under play by Prabhu as the father of a 20+ year old girl. He fits well for white & white costume. * The narration was smooth until the introduction of Elango. Navdeep as Elango repeatedly tests your patience. * I am not going to say what is the story as there is nothing innovative in that. * Not a must watch film.

  
  yOv... padamA ayyA idhu? porumaiyA pArthu pOst vEra....
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Oct 10 12:31:23 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: A AA E EE = Anitha AAkash Elango EEswari * A neat & elegant performance / under play by Prabhu as the father of a 20+ year old girl. He fits well for white & white costume. * The narration was smooth until the introduction of Elango. Navdeep as Elango repeatedly tests your patience. * I am not going to say what is the story as there is nothing innovative in that. * Not a must watch film. yOv... padamA ayyA idhu? porumaiyA pArthu pOst vEra....

  
  
  Oasiyila kedacha DVD rip... waste panna vendamnu parthEn..
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Oct 10 14:19:42 2009.

  Honest, adhavadhu freeya vandha phenol-a kudikkaama vuda maatteenga apdi thaanE? ;lol:
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Oct 11 9:00:30 2009.

  Kuselan..
  
  boring 1st half. rajni was good as usual.. but the real bright spot of the movie was r.sunderrajan
  
  vadivel and nayanthara were awful.
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Oct 11 9:29:43 2009.

  Ninaithale Inikum - average
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Oct 11 9:48:38 2009.

  Kaasi Yaathirai - Good timepass with SuruLi ,thengai ,VKR ,Manorama ,Cho .
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Oct 12 12:51:34 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Honest, adhavadhu freeya vandha phenol-a kudikkaama vuda maatteenga apdi thaanE? ;lol:

  
  
  appo.. ungalukku Prabhu padam phenol-ah
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Oct 12 12:56:11 2009.

  Kandhasamy
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Oct 12 12:58:52 2009.

  Plum, neenga oru chemistry soorappuli 'ngradhaala oru technical nitpick: adhu "phenyle"
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Oct 12 13:09:27 2009.

  Rendum onnu dhaane kozhappareengle(pronouncition solreengala... )
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Oct 12 13:10:13 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum, neenga oru chemistry soorappuli 'ngradhaala oru technical nitpick: adhu "phenyle"

  
  
  Phenol ... correct than ............ (appadithan nyabagam irukku)
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Oct 12 13:12:57 2009.

  Plum .. sarithan...
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Oct 12 13:15:14 2009.

  <to self> idhukku dhaan painterA latchaNamA irukkaNum, nadu kadallA meen pidikka pOna ippidi dhaan
  
  

• From: Querida on Fri Oct 16 8:11:19 2009.

  Watched "Pokkisham"....too weepy for my taste...it was well intended but still didn't reach me...
  
  Watched "Nizhalgal Nijamagirathu" what acting by Shoba...the little imitations she kept making, her naivete...and Hanumanth(???) the deaf saviour was endearing of course. ..."'Illakanam marutho.." it was taken so well, and made a great fit. "Kamban yemaandhan" was a real treat....the lyrics and the way it is sung cheekily by SPB matches Kamal's character so well. But Kamal coughing and smoking in almost every scene was quite annoying. And of course near the ending where I couldn't quite believe Chellam when he admitted to taking advantage of Shoba...it seemed unrealistic.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Oct 16 8:15:42 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  Watched "Nizhalgal Nijamagirathu" what acting by Shoba...the little imitations she kept making, her naivete...and Hamayun..."'illakanam marutho.." and "kamban yemanthan" were a real treat....but Kamal coughing and smoking in almost every scene was quite annoying. And of course near then ending where I couldn't quite believe Chellam when he admitted to taking advantage of Shoba...it seemed unrealistic.

  
  
  one of my favoritest KB movies....yes, kamal gets annoying after a point but he did a role that was tailor made for rajini and he proved he was good at that too ....
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Oct 16 8:19:28 2009.

  Rajni did that role in Telugu, I think. It is Hanumanthu, querida
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Oct 16 8:22:20 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I think. It is Hanumanthu, querida

  ippo dhaan enakku purinjudhu
  
  sain-smoking cool. I didn't find it annoying till the very end. Films gets a bit 'dramatic' in the end. But one just has to combare with other KB films.
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Fri Oct 16 8:23:23 2009.

  Kandasamy mothapadamum slow motion la eduthuvachirukar.. intha padatha eduthu vachikittu than ivlo pecha.. susi
  
  Ennavo entha padathilayyum varatha 30 scene irukkame- Vadivelu comedy
  
  Gyani thittnathula thappe illa..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Oct 16 8:42:17 2009.

  Jyothsna wrote:

  Kandasamy mothapadamum slow motion la eduthuvachirukar.. intha padatha eduthu vachikittu than ivlo pecha.. susi

  
  
  ivalavu warnings kuduthhum poi paatheenganna yaar enna panna mudiyum
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Oct 20 10:26:22 2009.

  Puthayal..
  
  aravindsamy totally overshadowed gounder, senthil, mammotty, manivannan etc.
  
  one man show from the word go..
  
  'after all neenga oru aama'
  'tangacheeeee'
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Oct 20 10:49:18 2009.

  A lesser GM film but many sparklers
  
  GM:enna sir mookum muzhiyumA oruthar nikkirAr theriyalai 'ngreenga
  Ar: idhu mookku idhu muzhi
  GM: kaNNai kuthiraadhe
  
  (Intro line)
  GM: yEn ellArum kidney-a pari kudutha maadhiri ukkAndhirukkeenga
  
  
  Aravindsamy was
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Oct 20 12:07:38 2009.

  LAADAM
  
  - Saw without much expectation & was good in parts
  
  - A movie whcih suits for an actor of Dhanush kind
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Oct 20 13:12:32 2009.

  On Diwali:
  
  Polimer TV (2 pm IST):
  
  ARASANGAM -------- GOOD
  
  * Second time I am watching this one.. still interesting, compared to some recent craps by the young generation actors.
  
  * Ameteurish sometimes... considering the fact that it was directed by "Madura" Madhesh need to adjust
  
  * VK's wig & his weight Heard that he is regularly working out to reduce his weight for VIRUDHAGIRI
  
  K TV ( 8:30 pm IST):
  
  PERARASU ------ BETTER
  
  * Coolest cop film of late
  
  * Anandaraj, Prakashraj & Pandiarajan -- good show
  
  * To be noted: Captain's intro in "Perarasu" : Once in white & white ... next as a trimmed CBI officer
  
  --------------------------------------
  
  yarum parthurukka matteengannu theriyum
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Oct 20 13:23:59 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  yarum parthurukka matteengannu theriyum

  
  thavaRu thiruththikkoLLungaL
  
  I saw snatches of pErarasu. The two VKs fighting.
  
  Enna solradhu...... "make-up mAthAma baady laanguvEj-layE vithyAsam kaamichirundhAru" appidinA
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Oct 20 13:26:44 2009.

  i watched mariyadhai (local tv - diwali day)..
  
  vikraman avar movies ellam kalanthu (poove unakkaga / meera jaws meen episode, suryavamsam / young captain estranged son episode, vanatha pola/ happy family episode) kodututharu..
  
  as usual mokka track by ramesh gunna..
  
  

• From: app_engine on Tue Oct 20 13:27:40 2009.

  Parts of 'thambi'
  
  -'jakkammA, jakkammA' nice and interesting song
  -MadhavanaippAththA rombappAvamA irukku ("swAsikka mudiyalla illa?" etc)
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Oct 20 14:55:17 2009.

  Thambi pathi pEsittInga. Sila naaLA kalyana(mE) vElaiyA irukkira groucho vandhuda pOrAr!
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Oct 20 22:20:18 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Thambi pathi pEsittInga. Sila naaLA kalyana(mE) vElaiyA irukkira groucho vandhuda pOrAr!

  Vandhutaa? Prachaaaram panni panni theenju pooyitten, out of sarakku already
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Oct 20 22:33:39 2009.

  Ayan.
  
  Okay, I got to admit this. Surya is good in action roles, can give Vikram a run for his money (already did, me thinks). Since I can spot special effects miles away, its safe to say that those muscles that he keep shoving up to viewers mug are real and they are meant for running, jumping, fighting, hanging on wire, etc. But get him to be dramatic, the actor meter drops like unrevved engine.
  
  Why did he wear a wig...even in "normal" scenes with Tamanna?
  
  Fans of recycling will also love this film.
  
  Recycle 1:
  If you have seen the Bourne movies and the latest Bond movie, you need not bother with the action scenes here. Think of the same scenes, albeit with poorer editing. Am not bothering to check, but was the action choreographer Dan Bradley involved in this?
  
  Recycle 1:
  Environmentally friendly Harris Jeyaraj at it again.
  
  Script is really good and worked well for an actioner. If I am forced to sit through this movie again, I shall do it for two reasons:
  
  1. Thamanaa
  2. Prabhu (let me recycle PR's statement: A gem of an actor).
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Oct 20 23:27:28 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Ayan. Recycle 1: Environmentally friendly Harris Jeyaraj at it again.

  
  
  , he also uses words like "hasili, phisili", "ommayoseeyo" which sound green
  
  

  groucho070 wrote:

  If I am forced to sit through this movie again, I shall do it for two reasons: 1. Thamanaa

  
  
  Minnale Maddy : she is that kind of beauty, u see
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Oct 20 23:32:41 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Minnale Maddy : she is that kind of beauty, u see

  (sounding like NT) Yeeassss...intha kal-nenjukaaranaiyum karachittaa antha azhagi. (NT head shake/nod with Shanti-esque cigarette in hand) What a lauvly girl... Yaaar antha nilavuuuu.....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Oct 20 23:56:05 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Minnale Maddy : she is that kind of beauty, u see (sounding like NT) Yeeassss...intha kal-nenjukaaranaiyum karachittaa antha azhagi. (NT head shake/nod with Shanti-esque cigarette in hand) What a lauvly girl... Yaaar antha nilavuuuu.....

  
  
  matrum oru urupinar
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Wed Oct 21 1:13:55 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  , he also uses words like "hasili, phisili", "ommayoseeyo" which sound green

  
  It's "Omaha Zeeya" (something to do with Omaha beach...)
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Oct 21 1:14:18 2009.

  
  
  What a shot in the arm for our sangam !
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Oct 21 1:51:52 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  It's "Omaha Zeeya" (something to do with Omaha beach...)

  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Oct 21 1:54:44 2009.

  Harris/ Omaha Beach/ D-Day...intha connectin Bala-taan sollanum
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Oct 21 1:58:12 2009.

  All said and done Hasili pAttu nallA irukku
  
  Scale-um romba naaLA thitturaar
  Neenga ellArum thittureenga
  aanaa enakku indha reuse ellAm spot paNNa mudiyalai
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Oct 21 1:59:35 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  MADDY wrote: , he also uses words like "hasili, phisili", "ommayoseeyo" which sound green It's "Omaha Zeeya" (something to do with Omaha beach...)

  
  
  It is Om Nama Sivaaya in Greek Language
  
  Omaha zeeya.. omi yaaya.. omi yaaya.. zeeya meha seeyaa ..
  
  Meaning..
  
  "Om nama sivaya.. en girl friend a kaapathuviyaa.. en girl friend a kaapathuviyaa ... kaapathinaa kasi viswanath temple la mottai adikiriraen.. "
  
  Girl friend Jothika is in difficult.. So there it goes
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Oct 21 2:00:43 2009.

  TM!!! En arivu kannai thiranthavaree
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Oct 21 2:13:29 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  TM!!! En arivu kannai thiranthavaree

  
  
  avatar paarthaalae therithu
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Wed Oct 21 5:29:49 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Puthayal.. aravindsamy totally overshadowed gounder, senthil, mammotty, manivannan etc. one man show from the word go.. 'after all neenga oru aama' 'tangacheeeee'

  
  
  Yeah I watched it yesterday too. Semma colour combination: Green pants-purple shirt, blue pants-yellow shirt...
  
  AS in first scene: Naan Kodi...Kodiswaran!
  
  At the climax...
  Police officer: Un peyre ennapa?
  AS: Aaah...pitchakaran!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Oct 21 10:23:33 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Ayan. 1. Thamanaa

  
  
  
  I saw this film called "Sinthanai Sei" which is heavily inspired by Johnny Gaddar. Also borrows a couple of scenes from "My Sassy Girl". Padathula perisA solra aLavukku onniyum illai, but kood *attempt*.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Oct 21 12:12:29 2009.

  Yeh Mera India
  
  -missed some early parts
  - Caught in TV at hotel room in Cambodia
  only after the movie ends ,I found the movie name by searching N.chandra
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Oct 21 12:45:52 2009.

  Joe, indhi pdamA? NIngaLumA?
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Oct 21 12:50:11 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Joe, indhi pdamA? NIngaLumA?

  
  
  Here in hotel room ,halted at this channel showing a hindi movie with english subtitles
  
  vazhakkamana high class love ,songs illama irunthathala paarhutten
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Oct 21 21:28:54 2009.

  joe wrote:

  vazhakkamana high class love ,songs illama irunthathala paarhutten

  Like the way you dismiss something that is probably being worshipped by pundits. Classic Joe
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Oct 23 9:33:49 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: yarum parthurukka matteengannu theriyum thavaRu thiruththikkoLLungaL I saw snatches of pErarasu. The two VKs fighting. Enna solradhu...... "make-up mAthAma baady laanguvEj-layE vithyAsam kaamichirundhAru" appidinA

  
  
  Indha padathoda interesting screenplay'ku rendu Vijayakanth'um similar make-up'oda irukkanum... adhuthan reason...
  
  illaina.. engalukkum dhadi, meesai, maru ellam vechu act kudukka theriyum
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Oct 23 9:51:07 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  All said and done Hasili pAttu nallA irukku Scale-um romba naaLA thitturaar Neenga ellArum thittureenga aanaa enakku indha reuse ellAm spot paNNa mudiyalai

  
  
  Harris paadalgal ellam ketpadharkku nallathan irukku enbadhu isai + aarmoniyathula ethanai katti irukku pOnra adippadadiye theriyadha en karuthu
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Oct 23 9:53:44 2009.

  HR, naan make-up maathaNumnu sollalai. make-up mAthAma varra padangaLla pugazhaNumnu sampradhAyamA ippidi solluvAinga. adhai sonnEn. Joke flop aayiruchu
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Oct 23 10:05:21 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  HR, naan make-up maathaNumnu sollalai. make-up mAthAma varra padangaLla pugazhaNumnu sampradhAyamA ippidi solluvAinga. adhai sonnEn. Joke flop aayiruchu

  
  
  neenga pOdunbodhe therinjadhu... indha padathula adhu koodadhunnu solrEn...
  
  
  on a serious note:
  neenga edhavadhu twins sandhicha anubavam unda.. endha alavukku vidhyasama iruppanga..
  one of my old collegue has a twin brother.. vazhiyila parkkumpodhu annan (4 mins diff) oda mugathula chinnadha oru mudhirchi irukkum.. adhai vechuthan adhu yarunnu confirm pannippEn...
  
  padangalla varra madhiri.. oruthan mottai adicha.. innoruthan kudumi vechurukkanunmu ellam kidayadhu...
  
  dig:
  vijayakanth padathula normalla varradha kooda comedy pannuvanga (unagala sollalai) .. maththa padathula comedyah irukkuradhai uyarvapesuvanga !!!
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Oct 24 13:22:35 2009.

  Pazhassi Raja
  Very koot.
  Some tamilsuperstar type stunts apart, a worthy show. All historical freedom fight cliches covered but in an endearing way all the same.
  I am inclined to give the NT vaarisu throne to mammotty now...in that, his style of acting reminds one of NT.(Not in the "next best actor after nt" sense)
  Raja is magnificient. While not as evocative as Guru, the bgm is superb, apt and effective - only grouse is it is too hollywood, a little more of keralan ethos wouldn't have hurt.
  
  But the man who steals the show is none other than mr.radhika! In an author-backed role as edacheri(?) Kungan, sarathkumarar stands up toe-to-toe with mammotty and passes with honours.idhukkappurakum tamil cinemala talent illainu solla mudiyaadhu - given an opportunity, that we can shine is proven by sarath here. Would never have guessed - the gambiram but paNivAna body language when mammotty is around to the aakrosham in bttle to the final denouement with suman, he channels all his experience and controls the performance effectively. This surely should tell us that there is serious talent in tamil cinema if we have the right canvas.
  
  Wholesome experience - bravo, hariharan!
  (Whether raja gets an award or not, if chitra doesn't for kunnathE theekulippu dhaan - what a rendition - kuzhaivu, nelivu,$kkam, dhaabam, vetkam, aarvam, sandhosham ellaam apdiye vandhu pogudhu kuralil - one of her career best)
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Oct 24 13:23:45 2009.

  Pazhassi Raja
  Very koot.
  Some tamilsuperstar type stunts apart, a worthy show. All historical freedom fight cliches covered but in an endearing way all the same.
  I am inclined to give the NT vaarisu throne to mammotty now...in that, his style of acting reminds one of NT.(Not in the "next best actor after nt" sense)
  Raja is magnificient. While not as evocative as Guru, the bgm is superb, apt and effective - only grouse is it is too hollywood, a little more of keralan ethos wouldn't have hurt.
  
  But the man who steals the show is none other than mr.radhika! In an author-backed role as edacheri(?) Kungan, sarathkumarar stands up toe-to-toe with mammotty and passes with honours.idhukkappurakum tamil cinemala talent illainu solla mudiyaadhu - given an opportunity, that we can shine is proven by sarath here. Would never have guessed - the gambiram but paNivAna body language when mammotty is around to the aakrosham in bttle to the final denouement with sarath, he channels all his experience and controls the performance effectively. This surely should tell us that there is serious talent in tamil cinema if we have the right canvas.
  
  Wholesome experience - bravo, hariharan!
  (Whether raja gets an award or not, if chitra doesn't for kunnathE theekulippu dhaan - what a rendition - kuzhaivu, nelivu,$kkam, dhaabam, vetkam, aarvam, sandhosham ellaam apdiye vandhu pogudhu kuralil - one of her career best)
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Oct 24 13:28:37 2009.

  Incredibly, in a movie with stellar contribution from most keralites involved - from thilakan to manoj jayan to the usual suspects(jagathi, jagadeesh etc) to oscar kutty - only two men got an applause from the predominantly mallu audience were...raja and sarath!
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Oct 24 13:28:46 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  kuzhaivu, nelivu, $kkam, dhaabam, vetkam, aarvam, sandhosham ellaam apdiye vandhu pogudhu - one of her best)

  
  
  keyboard'ai mathunga.. illaina "idhu enna?" appadinu yosikka vendi varum
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Oct 24 14:10:06 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Pazhassi Raja Very koot.

  
  Hmm... ungaLukku enna unga oorla subtitil ellAm pOduvAinga.
  
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  sarathkumarar stands up toe-to-toe with mammotty and passes with honours.

  
  :headreeling:
  B(K), second opinion needed urgently. Plenty at stake here.
  
  

  Plum wrote:

  $kkam

  book pOttu vithuralaamungaLA ?
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Oct 24 15:00:49 2009.

  Allov _ subtitle illamalE (kambiya pudikkAmalE) naanga paarpOmga
  Seriously, though, I watched without subtitles, and much to my delight, I found that I didn't miss any word or sentence - and the film didn't tax an outsider much with local or time specific idioms - one might even have reservations with kerala vama pazhassi raja delivering a grammatically perfect, if accented, english speech but atleast, it was engaging enough not to take too much notice
  
  

• From: Querida on Sat Oct 24 23:32:15 2009.

  Watched "Manal Kayiru" I know there are a lot of haters out there but I'm a closet fan of Visu movies...and I really liked this one! It was quite a tragicomedy...nothing was full out funny...most often it had a tinge of sadness in it...Narada's backstory especially and the father in law's deafness...Manorama was beautifully radiant and was a joy to watch...if only there were more loving couples like the one Manorama and Kismu portrayed. Nice hummable song as well with "Mandhira Punnagai" and tongue-in-cheek lyrics and "Vasantha Maaligai" scenes with "Yaardhan".
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Oct 24 23:37:04 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  I know there are a lot of haters out there

  
  he's among the best in family stories.
  
  

• From: Querida on Sat Oct 24 23:39:21 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Querida wrote: I know there are a lot of haters out there he's among the best in family stories.[/list]

  
  
  So? That doesn't make everyone a fan of his.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sat Oct 24 23:42:12 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  father in law's deafness..

  
  The scene where he memorizes the lines written for him by Visu and recites
  
  "yENdA nArada Naidu. pArthu evvaLO naaL aachu"
  
  

• From: Querida on Sun Oct 25 0:01:59 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Querida wrote: father in law's deafness.. The scene where he memorizes the lines written for him by Visu and recites "yENdA nArada Naidu. pArthu evvaLO naaL aachu"

  
  
  and when he said...here is my son he is like your son...here is my daughter, she is like your daughter...here is my wife..she is like your wife...
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Oct 25 1:18:21 2009.

  Mudhalvan -
  
  suffered from bagyaraj syndrome however. exceptional 1st half. a bit clueless after the interval.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Oct 25 3:26:18 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Mudhalvan - suffered from bagyaraj syndrome however. exceptional 1st half. a bit clueless after the interval.

  
  
  enna dhAn ellArum Shankar's best effort-nu Mudhalvana sonnAlum, somehow I feel Indian is his best movie.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:13:56 2009.

  Watched damil version of tonty one grams....
  
  Sumaar....
  
  Cinematography
  BGM - average... first half fulla IR music'a vachE Ottittaapla...
  
  That kid wasn't impressive.... nadippu avvaLavA varalai... adhu seri, periya kid 'aarya'kE nadippu varalai... Kid's ferfarmens is far better than Arya's....
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sun Oct 25 8:19:34 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Watched damil version of tonty one grams.... Sumaar.... Cinematography BGM - average... first half fulla IR music'a vachE Ottittaapla... That kid wasn't impressive.... nadippu avvaLavA varalai... adhu seri, periya kid 'aarya'kE nadippu varalai... Kid's ferfarmens is far better than Arya's....

  
  Oh, Sarvam is tonty one grams??
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:21:35 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Watched damil version of tonty one grams.... Sumaar.... Cinematography BGM - average... first half fulla IR music'a vachE Ottittaapla... That kid wasn't impressive.... nadippu avvaLavA varalai... adhu seri, periya kid 'aarya'kE nadippu varalai... Kid's ferfarmens is far better than Arya's.... Oh, Sarvam is tonty one grams??

  
  
  Yes. Core of the movie, konjam screenplay, konjam cinematography style (not blaming Nirav Shah), ippadi sarvamum "21 Grams" maadiri irukku... heavily inspired....
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Oct 25 8:23:43 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Watched damil version of tonty one grams.... Sumaar.... Cinematography BGM - average... first half fulla IR music'a vachE Ottittaapla... That kid wasn't impressive.... nadippu avvaLavA varalai... adhu seri, periya kid 'aarya'kE nadippu varalai... Kid's ferfarmens is far better than Arya's.... Oh, Sarvam is tonty one grams??

  
  
  enna kodumai idhu.. apdi pArtha sarvam is not amores perros? AE ain't Babel? ellAm oru inspiration.. avLO dhAn. Kumudham once wrote such crap about copying and all.. as if they report all news live and true. Hindu came up with similar insanity too. Tensions of India...
  GM: unakellAm pEsavE therla.. modhalla un vAya thaikkaNum
  
  Sarvam was very well shot. adha pathi innum 2 vari solliyirukkalAmE.. Nirav Shah is very very promising!
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sun Oct 25 8:25:37 2009.

  Vengi,
  Sorry, i meant "is" in the inspiration sense onnly...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Oct 25 8:25:47 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Yes. Core of the movie, konjam screenplay, konjam cinematography style (not blaming Nirav Shah), ippadi sarvamum "21 Grams" maadiri irukku... heavily inspired....

  
  
  arya is retarded enbadhu dhAn core of the movie...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Oct 25 8:27:06 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Vengi, Sorry, i meant "is" in the inspiration sense onnly...

  
  
  aang.. ippudi theLivA pEsa pazhagaNum
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:29:46 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Sarvam was very well shot. adha pathi innum 2 vari solliyirukkalAmE.. Nirav Shah is very very promising!

  
  
  Watched it in thiruttu DVD(nalla print thaan... but still)... adhunAla than i could not comment much on Cinematography...
  
  But the tone was good Nirav shah
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Oct 25 8:34:43 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Watched it in thiruttu DVD

  can someone report this to the right authority?
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Oct 25 8:35:31 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Sarvam was very well shot. adha pathi innum 2 vari solliyirukkalAmE.. Nirav Shah is very very promising!

  
  
  Vivek about Simran in Vaali
  
  அழகா இருக்குங்கறதுக்காக ஒரு குழப்பத்தை காதலிக்க முடியுமா
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:37:26 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority?

  
  
  Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Oct 25 8:38:24 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority?

  
  
  Kamal to Crazy Mohan : inga pArthiyA? assistant commisioner-Odathu.. pO.. pOi solluyA pOyyA
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Oct 25 8:40:19 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority? Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry

  saatchi?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:42:44 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority? Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry saatchi?

  
  
  go and check your post in Old CC
  
  (adhu seri... neenga delete panniduveenga yEn'na neenga moderator... but i'm a common man )
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Oct 25 8:43:57 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority? Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry saatchi? go and check your post in Old CC (adhu seri... neenga delete panniduveenga yEn'na neenga moderator... but i'm a common man )

  
  
  
  
  paravalla bomb vechirunga..
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Oct 25 8:44:41 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority? Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry saatchi? go and check your post in Old CC (adhu seri... neenga delete panniduveenga yEn'na neenga moderator... but i'm a common man ) paravalla bomb vechirunga..

  
  
  
  
  

• From: ArulprakasH on Sun Oct 25 8:46:25 2009.

  
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sun Oct 25 13:06:47 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Pazhassi Raja Very koot.

  
  
  Plum,
  
  Bombayile release aayiduchhaa? Here most probably it will release in the coming week or next. But problem is Tamil version will get released. Though Mammootty himself has dubbed in Tamil, still would prefer to see the original.
  
  Regards
  
  Mohanlal gives the intro speech right? In Tamil, Kamal seems to have done that and SRK in Hindi version.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Oct 25 13:43:55 2009.

  Yes sir. Released here. With and without subtitles - chose the without version and am happy I did that.
  Mammotty is majestic, fantastic, outstanding. Ninga malayalam version kandippA paarkaNum. I don't think other versions will match up - the maplah conversations will lose the all-important dialect and similarly other keralan intriccies. Kerala pOyvadhu paarunga - though not the greatest of mammotty performances(because the role doesn't have much scope), pazhassi will be a milestone in his career.
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sun Oct 25 14:02:35 2009.

  Pazhassi Raaja ku pogalaam nu theater ku pona we were too late for the evening show and there was no night show. Ended up watching Aadhavan. Escapism by interval. Total damage
  
  

• From: 19thmay on Mon Oct 26 0:22:31 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: NOV wrote: viraajan wrote: Watched it in thiruttu DVD can someone report this to the right authority? Dont forget that you wanted me to buy "pirated DVD" from Pondicherry saatchi? go and check your post in Old CC (adhu seri... neenga delete panniduveenga yEn'na neenga moderator... but i'm a common man ) paravalla bomb vechirunga..

  
  
  
  Awesome!!
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Oct 26 12:23:35 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Ended up watching Aadhavan. Escapism by interval. Total damage

  
  
  
  
  

• From: avven on Mon Oct 26 14:39:46 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Bala (Karthik) wrote: Ended up watching Aadhavan. Escapism by interval. Total damage

  
  
  thiraivimarsanam parthen vadivelu comedy scenessei mokkaiya iruthuchi.,.but aathai poi eppadi nalla irukunu solranganu theriyala
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Mon Oct 26 14:41:36 2009.

  Thanks Plum. Will watch the original. While the Tamil version will be releasing in maximum screens, Malayalam version would come atleast in one screen in Chennai, just like it happened in the case of Harikrishnans 10 years ago.
  
  Though Jayamohan is writing the Tamil dialogues, MT on any day would be streets ahead.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: MrIndia on Mon Oct 26 14:53:49 2009.

  avven wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Bala (Karthik) wrote: Ended up watching Aadhavan. Escapism by interval. Total damage thiraivimarsanam parthen vadivelu comedy scenessei mokkaiya iruthuchi.,.but aathai poi eppadi nalla irukunu solranganu theriyala

  
  
  I felt the same.. but theatrela kootama paakum bothu..mob mentality-la konjam enjoy pannalaam.
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Oct 26 15:10:52 2009.

  Regarding the dialogues, the general consensus seems to be that they lack the fire of ovv. But nobody's putting in that as a complaint rather that dialogues are not the focus in this movie. The speeches are low-key and keeping in with the guerilla methods of pazhassi. As an outsider, every conversaation was accesible to me - I am nmot sure that's good or bad nevertheless, given the subtle changes in words and dialect used by the tribals, the maplahs and the nairs did tell me that it wasn't an ordinary pen behind the movie. The only aspect that stuck out was grammatically perfect english by indians in 1797. I am inclined to be sceptic to that. Also, the english actors were average and took the sting out of the already weak and functional english dialogues.
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Mon Oct 26 23:01:18 2009.

  Vedham Puthithu....After long time...
  
  Wonderful movie....Full of tragedy... I couldn't control the feelings...Nettiyadi dialouges...
  
  Every character has uniqueness...Sathyaraj, Sankaran(Who is that boy??), amala, saritha, charuhasan, Raja, Nizhalgal Ravi and etc....
  
  Devendran had delivered excellent numbers and BGM....IR musicnnu niraya peru bulb vangi iruganga.....
  
  Overall excellent movie...I heard that this movie didn't do well in BO (??....Kalikalam...)
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Oct 31 11:15:42 2009.

  "'ர'ன்னாவும் வராது 'ச'ன்னாவும் வராது 'ஷ'ன்னாவும் வராது. பேரு மட்டும் சுப்ரமணிய பாரதி!" "ஷார்ட் நேம் சுப்பி சார்!" ))
  
  பை தி வே, யாருங்க அது டாக்குமென்டரி பார்த்து இங்க அளவளாவுறது?
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Sat Oct 31 11:38:52 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  "'ர'ன்னாவும் வராது 'ச'ன்னாவும் வராது 'ஷ'ன்னாவும் வராது. பேரு மட்டும் சுப்ரமணிய பாரதி!" "ஷார்ட் நேம் சுப்பி சார்!" ))

  
  
  
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Oct 31 11:58:28 2009.

  அவரு பெரிய டாக்குட்டருங்க.. நமுக்கு படிப்பு வரலீங்க.. படிச்சதெல்லாம் அஞ்சாங்கிளாசுங்க.. அது கொட பெயிலுங்க
  
  ஏனுங்க நேத்து ராத்திரி யாரோ என்னவோ பண்ணி இடுப்பு புடிச்சுகிச்சுன்னு சொன்னீங்கல்லோ.. அதச்சொல்லுங்கோ.. ஒரே சோக்கா இருக்கும்!
  
  கொங்குதமிழ்
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Sat Oct 31 12:01:53 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  அவரு பெரிய டாக்குட்டருங்க.. நமுக்கு படிப்பு வரலீங்க.. படிச்சதெல்லாம் அஞ்சாங்கிளாசுங்க.. அது கொட பெயிலுங்க ஏனுங்க நேத்து ராத்திரி யாரோ என்னவோ பண்ணி இடுப்பு புடிச்சுகிச்சுன்னு சொன்னீங்கல்லோ.. அதச்சொல்லுங்கோ.. ஒரே சோக்கா இருக்கும்! கொங்குதமிழ்

  
  
  
  Sathileelavathi ?
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Sat Oct 31 12:05:24 2009.

  கமல் : ஐயோ ப்ரேக் புடிக்கல
  
  கோவை சரளா: என்னையே புடிக்கலயாமா
  
  
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Oct 31 12:14:45 2009.

  Jyothsna wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: அவரு பெரிய டாக்குட்டருங்க.. நமுக்கு படிப்பு வரலீங்க.. படிச்சதெல்லாம் அஞ்சாங்கிளாசுங்க.. அது கொட பெயிலுங்க ஏனுங்க நேத்து ராத்திரி யாரோ என்னவோ பண்ணி இடுப்பு புடிச்சுகிச்சுன்னு சொன்னீங்கல்லோ.. அதச்சொல்லுங்கோ.. ஒரே சோக்கா இருக்கும்! கொங்குதமிழ் Sathileelavathi ?

  
  
  தில்லு முல்லு - சிரிப்பொலி
  சதிலீலாவதி - ஆதித்யா
  
  தலைவர் படம் - அவதார்!
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sat Oct 31 12:24:29 2009.

  Vengi,
  Enna lokesan Madras nu potrukku?
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Nov 1 1:10:48 2009.

  kaanchivaram!!!!
  
  
  
  what an amazing film!
  what an amazing performance by Prakash Raj!
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Nov 1 2:10:29 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  kaanchivaram!!!! what an amazing film! what an amazing performance by Prakash Raj!

  
  ippo thaan paatheengaLa
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Nov 1 2:17:18 2009.

  aamaam joe. inga thaan cinema la release aagalala.
  astro thanga thiraila pOttaanga
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 1 3:33:57 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  kaanchivaram!!!! what an amazing film! what an amazing performance by Prakash Raj!

  
  
  Prakashraj's acting in the climax
  
  romba romba nalla padam.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Nov 1 8:02:13 2009.

  Chennai -28
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Nov 1 8:04:44 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Chennai -28

  
  
  Joe, u didnt find it interesting in first view right ?
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Nov 1 8:11:54 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  joe wrote: Chennai -28 Joe, u didnt find it interesting in first view right ?

  
  
  First view-la pidichirunthathu (not to extend of others who think it was one of the best movies ,I blame myself for not having much related with cricket)
  
  This time ,I enjoyed the narration and casual portrayals more.
  
  Saroja is the one movie ,I couldn't find anything interesting.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 1 8:44:32 2009.

  Watching Chennai 28. Adha post panna inga vandhA, namma joe annE already post pannittar
  
  Premji enna thaan ivar poduradhu mokkai'ya irundhalum, sirikkAma irukka mudiyala.... premji'ya pAthalE varudhu... See-Saw game la Premji and the other guy's reaction
  
  As Joe said, casual narrathio
  
  Awaiting Goa
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 1 8:45:49 2009.

  thEvai illAdha scenes ellam thavirthirundha ch28 nijammavE romba pramAdhamA irundhirukkum....
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Nov 1 8:57:01 2009.

  joe wrote:

  Appu s wrote: joe wrote: Chennai -28 Joe, u didnt find it interesting in first view right ? First view-la pidichirunthathu (not to extend of others who think it was one of the best movies ,I blame myself for not having much related with cricket) This time ,I enjoyed the narration and casual portrayals more. Saroja is the one movie ,I couldn't find anything interesting.

  
  
  even i felt the same about saroja, atleast those scenes are not ROTFL worth
  
  

• From: interz on Sun Nov 1 10:27:11 2009.

  Jagan Mohini - Do not watch any time.
  
  The far most bad movie in 2009. Screenplay, graphics, characterizations, dialogues...very amateurish. The only thing that is OK is Ilayarajas BGM, his songs sound too modern to fit in Jagan Mohini. Comedy..all the other scenes that doesnt include Vadivelu.
  
  Remakes should done in a way thats supposed to keep you focused and glued to the screen. The only thing I focused was on the garbage bucket as I was vommitting throughout the movie.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Nov 1 14:36:23 2009.

  aadhavan
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Nov 1 20:25:30 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  aadhavan

  
  
  yen, vaaya thorandhu edhavadhu solradhu.....
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Nov 1 21:59:37 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Wibha wrote: aadhavan yen, vaaya thorandhu edhavadhu solradhu.....

  
  
  solra maadhiri ya iruku
  
  can a movie get ANY REPETITIVE?!?!?!?!
  
  jeez
  
  

• From: Sourav on Sun Nov 1 22:04:31 2009.

  interz wrote:

  Jagan Mohini - Do not watch any time.

  TFI-la solli ungalukku oru paarattu vizha edukkanum firsttu...oru padam vidama paathurraya...
  j/k.
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Mon Nov 2 0:28:38 2009.

  Aadhavan
  
  First half paadhilayae pesaama naamaLae poyi andha judge a pottutu vandhudalaamaa nu sema kaduppu.
  
  Surya enna paNNaalum poRuththukitten, but when he says 'ungaLa enakku romba pidikkum paa'
  
  End titles la kadhai vivaadha kuzhu nu oru 6 7 names podraanga. Case pottu ennaththa vivaadham paNNeengannu kekkaNum.
  
  And the Uthayanithi-KSR part Oru mudivoda dhaan irukkanga.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Nov 2 13:31:02 2009.

  Parts of "sound of music" - for the nth time
  
  A timeless classic and can be compared to the famed sculptures / paintings / structures etc that are considered marvels!
  
  And the songs! Wow!
  
  (Ofcourse my fav is the "favourite things" - introduced to this by IR decades before - 'thannannan thAnannam thALaththil Adi' chorus of a fantastic KJY song in BM's MalayALam movie yAthra.
  
  From tfmpage, I learnt that IR again used it in 'poottukkaL pOttAlum' of kshatriyan)
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Mon Nov 2 20:07:04 2009.

  App_engine, have you seen this video?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k
  
  

• From: interz on Tue Nov 3 17:25:12 2009.

  Aadhavan - Below Average - Watch it once or ˝
  
  The main reason why I dislike the movie is the story and screenplay. Further more I dislike family movies with too many family members who barely have a dialogue.
  
  The cast performance is okay. This is not a movie Soorya should be acting in, I would understand if it had a telugu hero like Nagarjuna. Comedy didnt work out for me, it is Vadivelu like we seen in 100 of other movies where he is thittified by family and terrorised by hero. WHo is that heroine?? I still wonder, she barely have much scope to be seen...Music...annoying BGM, only hasili fisili sounds good, eventually audience will get tired of HJs repetitive songs.
  
  "And yea I do watch lot of movies, lot of hubbers deserves reward for watching movie they dislike. It takes courage to watch such kind of moves."
  
  

• From: app_engine on Tue Nov 3 18:46:58 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  App_engine, have you seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k

  
  
  WOW!
  
  Thank you!
  
  sound of music = power of music
  
  

• From: app_engine on Tue Nov 3 18:50:04 2009.

  Not just the music part, even the dialogues, scenes - everything is so carefully crafted in this movie.
  
  Last night again some other parts, the scene where she comes back to the abbey and the scene when the head confronts her and asks her to go back to the captain's home - I think scenes like these became templates for many later day movies
  
  

• From: interz on Wed Nov 4 17:46:14 2009.

  (Oh no , he watched another movie again...)
  
  Peranmai - above average, can be watched atleast once
  
  So far the enjoyable and thrilling movie of Deepavali. The first half is slow and dragging, cuz we are getting introduced to characters and so on, but 2nd half is very good. Jeyam Ravi, deserves applaud choosing a challenging role, Chocolate boy is now Badboy. 5 important girls also done justice to their roles, Vasundra and Dhanusika deserves to be mentioned.
  
  Cinemtographer Satheeshkumar did a great job, it must have been very difficult to capture jungle scenes.
  
  Vidyasagar fails on song delivery, but succeeds in BGM.
  
  SP Jananathan deserves applaus for making different kind of movie.
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Wed Nov 4 17:47:45 2009.

  Quote:

  Vidyasagar fails on song delivery, but succeeds in BGM.

  
  
  King of Melody sema form out
  
  

• From: k_vanan on Wed Nov 4 20:35:30 2009.

  Watched "Avatharam"
  
  Nasser & Revathy
  Songs & BGM
  Direction & Screenplay
  Story
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Nov 4 22:01:21 2009.

  Yeah, take away aspiring koottu performer, you get Kai Kodukkum Kai plot with the same blind Revathi. I heard the original story was different, and Nassar was forced to modify it for commercial purposes. Aaana....till today, the songs stood the test of time, I tell ya.
  
  

• From: k_vanan on Wed Nov 4 22:43:49 2009.

  really, then what is original story ?
  
  BTW nasser dir. was excellant. IR is backbone for this movie with songs (aritharatha pusi kolla, thendral, kundumani) & never heard before for stunning BGM.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Nov 4 23:02:29 2009.

  Similarities there may be, but I wish Kai Kodukkum Kai had similar protagonists like Nassar, very wonderfully written (I see NT, or better still, Rajini's Dharma). Rajini in KKK is boring, two dimensional and lacks any motivation other than be protective of the blind Revathi. Of course, things happen to the blind girl no thanks to a trusted person just like in KKK (I don't want to spoil it for you if you haven't seen it). The climax in KKK is very very 80s. The one in Avatharam is overtly dramatic, something Rajini would have chosen if KKK was made after the year 2000.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Nov 5 8:39:57 2009.

  Watching 'Poo' now.
  
  Simply superb...
  
  PArvathy - ippadi nalla nadicha unakku TFI'la chance kammi thaan
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Nov 5 8:52:27 2009.

  grouch, thondru thottu indru varai(the climax for Avatharam) is goosebumps stuff. adhu oNNukkAgavE you can pass it.
  
  I mean, the whole movie works as a showcase for IR, primarily!
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Nov 5 8:56:25 2009.

  Poo is a classic vidhya....
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Nov 5 9:14:01 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Poo is a classic vidhya....

  
  
  romba supera irukku... watching it now
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Nov 5 10:22:13 2009.

  Poo -
  
  One of the best movies.
  
  So poetic.
  
  Kudos to Sasi!
  
  Romba anubavichu pAthen
  
  Parvathy ethanai vidhamAna expressions... ... salikkaama nadichurukkA... Wonderful...
  
  Beautiful Cinematography and apt BGM score by Kumaran!
  
  Overall - A complete movie!
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Nov 5 10:30:26 2009.

  idheyE cinema la paaththirundhenaa, unakku maalai pOttu paaraattalaam...
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Nov 5 10:32:10 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  idheyE cinema la paaththirundhenaa, unakku maalai pOttu paaraattalaam...

  
  
  i regret for this... nijammAvE... theater'la pAkka vEndiya padam
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Nov 6 2:06:25 2009.

  Vidiyum Varai Kaathiru..
  
  someone said this was inspired by Dial M for Murder.. not sure about that.. but the movie has aged really well... even after nearly 30 years, you won't find it boring (atleast for me )
  
  vintage bagyaraj in this.. all scenes were super. he goes in his usual template (light 1st half, heavy 2nd half).. first half was quite funny.. and the 2nd half.. sema speed..
  
  and the train scene.. ethanai tadavai paatalum azhukkata scene..
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Nov 6 9:20:07 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Vidiyum Varai Kaathiru.. someone said this was inspired by Dial M for Murder.. not sure about that.. but the movie has aged really well... even after nearly 30 years, you won't find it boring (atleast for me ) vintage bagyaraj in this.. all scenes were super. he goes in his usual template (light 1st half, heavy 2nd half).. first half was quite funny.. and the 2nd half.. sema speed.. and the train scene.. ethanai tadavai paatalum azhukkata scene..

  
  
  Raiks.. indha DVD miss aayiduchu (combo with Indru pOi naalai vaa)
  
  innoru copy vanganum
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Nov 6 9:52:15 2009.

  Abhiyum nAnum Liked it very much
  
  Prakash Raj
  
  Between who's that Ravi Sasthiri? What's his name? Romba arpudhamA nadichirukkar That hotel scene where he says "ivanga en amma sir"
  
  Ganesh Venki
  
  Dialogues
  
  Superb movie!!!!
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Fri Nov 6 9:55:43 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Between who's that Ravi Sasthiri? What's his name? Romba arpudhamA nadichirukkar That hotel scene where he says "ivanga en amma sir"

  
  
  Azhagiya Theeye la kuda Prasanna Friend a varuvare.. peru Kumarasamyo ennavo..
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Nov 6 10:02:23 2009.

  Jyothsna wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Between who's that Ravi Sasthiri? What's his name? Romba arpudhamA nadichirukkar That hotel scene where he says "ivanga en amma sir" Azhagiya Theeye la kuda Prasanna Friend a varuvare.. peru Kumarasamyo ennavo..

  
  
  Yes. not friend. sithappu
  
  kumarasamy ah.... super'A nadichirundar... romba nalla character....
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Nov 6 12:49:36 2009.

  Pudhupettai on Local cable channel
  
  Dhanush's 1st assignment to chop off the businessman's hand. What a scene... My favorite scene followed by the song "neruppu vaayinil oramai eriyum"
  
  Superb
  
  

• From: interz on Fri Nov 6 16:25:45 2009.

  Kanden Kadhalai - very poor, do not watch (watch the comedy in comedy time on tamil channels...)
  
  R.Kannans first movie was gripping, this movie is very dry and at many times I lost interest.
  
  No complaints about performances, Bharath & Tamanna were ok. The biggest plus is comedy in the movie. I will have to sue Santhanam for losing my chin laughing every time he was on screen. Another one worth mentioning is Ravichandran as the conservative minded Grandpa, good job too.
  
  Songs an BGM not worth to praise or dizz, they are average, Oru Naal wasnt even in the movie?? What a dissapointment...
  
  R Kannan must try to make a screenplay interesting and gripping. Better luck next time...
  
  

• From: interz on Fri Nov 6 16:37:26 2009.

  This is me telling u right name in masala movie style...
  
  Singavelu
  Murugavelu
  Kanagavelu
  Sakthivelu
  ada Vadivelu
  
  aanaa..
  
  Abhiyum Naanum padathila nadhichathu KUMARAVELU
  
  (ground shakes)
  
  

• From: Jyothsna on Sat Nov 7 6:10:07 2009.

  Manichitrathazh- Excellent performance by shobana
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Nov 7 7:11:27 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Jyothsna wrote: viraajan wrote: Between who's that Ravi Sasthiri? What's his name? Romba arpudhamA nadichirukkar That hotel scene where he says "ivanga en amma sir" Azhagiya Theeye la kuda Prasanna Friend a varuvare.. peru Kumarasamyo ennavo.. Yes. not friend. sithappu kumarasamy ah.... super'A nadichirundar... romba nalla character....

  
  
  குமரவேல்
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Nov 7 8:27:47 2009.

  Thanks Interz, Venki
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Nov 7 13:52:51 2009.

  Billa 07
  
  Ajith
  
  Nirav Shah
  
  Yuvan What a BGM!!!!
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Nov 7 15:45:31 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Billa 07 Ajith Nirav Shah Yuvan What a BGM!!!!

  
  
  
  idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya!
  
  Watched Magalir mattum. dhrAbai climax thavira Okay. Revathi was annoying. (in very few movies only)
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Nov 7 23:25:45 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith Nirav Shah Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya! Watched Magalir mattum. dhrAbai climax thavira Okay. Revathi was annoying. (in very few movies only)

  
  
  It had a very decent climax chasing scene...funny too....and the last scene with kamal was cool!
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Nov 7 23:29:49 2009.

  I found revathi as the apt choice for the role...not just revathi...everyone in the movie... from oorvasi to thalaivasal vijay.
  
  I couldnt think of any other heroine doing revathis role
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Nov 8 0:11:18 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith , Nirav Shah , Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya!

  
  
  why ya?? i like this Billa more than rajini's Billa and SRK's Don........but Amitabh's Don takes the cake for me
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 8 0:50:36 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith Nirav Shah Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya!

  
  
  edha sollureenga.... 1st line or 2nd or 3rd or 4th?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 8 0:52:43 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith , Nirav Shah , Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya! why ya?? i like this Billa more than rajini's Billa and SRK's Don........but Amitabh's Don takes the cake for me

  
  
  I have not watched any of the originals including Rajni's. Chinna vayasula pAthurukken... forgot it completely...
  
  So this Billa was more like a fresh piece for me
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Nov 8 2:27:57 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith , Nirav Shah , Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya! viraajan wrote: edha sollureenga.... 1st line or 2nd or 3rd or 4th? why ya?? i like this Billa more than rajini's Billa and SRK's Don........but Amitabh's Don takes the cake for me

  
  
  Almost all Ajithfans have walked out of the hub. People who don't post regularly in Ajith threads like Feddy, me and a few others hang out here. Plus, neutrals here are Surya-specific.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 8 6:56:24 2009.

  Pasanga...
  
  Very good attempt...... Liked it...
  
  Climax accident enakku pudikkala... mathapadi movie was entertaining
  
  Kid1: avan varuvAnA da?
  Kid2: vara mattan da,...
  Kid1: avan varuvana da?
  Kid3: varuvaan da.... vandhu... namma kitta kottu vAngittu thaan pOvan da.....
  
  
  
  Kids Anbu, Kutti mani, jeeva, bakkOda ellarumE superb performance
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Nov 8 7:10:13 2009.

  Vaanjinathan..
  
  sema speed, sema aaksan.. only speedbreakers were songs (though captain's steps were hilarious on their own rights) and the sister senti"mental"scenes.
  
  captain: avanayum(prakash raj) suduven, unnayum (Nasar) suduven..
  nasar: ennai sutta, unnai koondula yethuven
  captain: nee settha, court-ke vara mudiyathuda..
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Nov 8 7:19:13 2009.

  Esaa - Vignesh paavam uyira kuduththu thaan nadikkuRaru .work out aaga maattenguthu
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Nov 8 8:29:21 2009.

  Pasanga is just a spoof of many tamil films.
  
  

  viraajan wrote:

  Kid1: avan varuvAnA da? Kid2: vara mattan da,... Kid1: avan varuvana da? Kid3: varuvaan da.... vandhu... namma kitta kottu vAngittu thaan pOvan da.....

  spoof from Run (even a total forgetter like me can recall the scene.)
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sun Nov 8 8:40:48 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Vaanjinathan.. sema speed, sema aaksan.. only speedbreakers were songs (though captain's steps were hilarious on their own rights) and the sister senti"mental"scenes. captain: avanayum(prakash raj) suduven, unnayum (Nasar) suduven.. nasar: ennai sutta, unnai koondula yethuven captain: nee settha, court-ke vara mudiyathuda..

  
  
  
  
  Serious'a thaan pesikraangala
  
  

• From: Benny Lava on Sun Nov 8 8:41:50 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Almost all Ajithfans have walked out of the hub. People who don't post regularly in Ajith threads like Feddy, me and a few others hang out here. Plus, neutrals here are Surya-specific.

  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Nov 8 8:54:39 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Almost all Ajithfans have walked out of the hub. People who don't post regularly in Ajith threads like Feddy, me and a few others hang out here. Plus, neutrals here are Surya-specific.

  
  
  fighting against intellectuals-blanket-support/criticism is the most interesting thing in HUB, let me tell you .......Ajith will have representation in this place always - lets make sure of that
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Nov 8 9:27:41 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Almost all Ajithfans have walked out of the hub. People who don't post regularly in Ajith threads like Feddy, me and a few others hang out here. Plus, neutrals here are Surya-specific. fighting against intellectuals-blanket-support/criticism is the most interesting thing in HUB, let me tell you .......Ajith will have representation in this place always - lets make sure of that

  
  
  
  nAn thani AL illa!
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Nov 8 9:28:56 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Pasanga is just a spoof of many tamil films. viraajan wrote: Kid1: avan varuvAnA da? Kid2: vara mattan da,... Kid1: avan varuvana da? Kid3: varuvaan da.... vandhu... namma kitta kottu vAngittu thaan pOvan da..... spoof from Run (even a total forgetter like me can recall the scene.)

  
  
  Absolutely...
  
  A.K.Ars (i.e anbukkarasu... ) introduction, the way he garners plaudits from teacher, etc were all done by our Heroes in many movies...
  
  but ennavO, the movie was entertaining... Wasn't boring at all... only few scenes were boring...
  
  Atop all these, what really impressed me is the kids' performance... especially the kutti mani and bakkoda
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Nov 8 10:08:18 2009.

  captain action films neraya samayam comedy-ah thaan irukkum..
  
  but vaanjinathan and vallarasu particularly were excellent.. pori parakkum scenes..
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Nov 8 10:35:07 2009.

  Watching Unnal mudiyum Thambi ..what a movie
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Nov 8 12:01:34 2009.

  Mannan - easily the most entertaining movie of rajni
  
  rajni
  
  kavunder
  
  

• From: AravindMano on Mon Nov 9 0:14:35 2009.

  Achchamillai achchamillai. A lot of fine KB 'touches'.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Nov 10 8:35:15 2009.

  Benny Lava wrote:

  Raikkonen wrote: Vaanjinathan.. sema speed, sema aaksan.. only speedbreakers were songs (though captain's steps were hilarious on their own rights) and the sister senti"mental"scenes. captain: avanayum(prakash raj) suduven, unnayum (Nasar) suduven.. nasar: ennai sutta, unnai koondula yethuven captain: nee settha, court-ke vara mudiyathuda.. Serious'a thaan pesikraangala

  
  
  100 days ------ in theater itself ... released alongside Dheena & Friends
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Nov 10 8:37:52 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  captain action films neraya samayam comedy-ah thaan irukkum.. but vaanjinathan and vallarasu particularly were excellent.. pori parakkum scenes..

  
  
  Vanchinathan dir Saji Kailas ...... after this success..he was offered Jana ..... FHI (for hubbers info) both Vanchinathan & jana were produced by Roja Combines Kaja Mohaideen
  
  -------------------
  
  Vallarasu ------ 100 days in theater itself that too in city centres....... released alongside with Alaipayuthe & Unnai Kodu Ennai tharuvEn ... remade in Hindi as "Indian" by yedho oru Dheol.......
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Nov 10 8:53:44 2009.

  haanast wrote:

  remade in Hindi as "Indian" by yedho oru Dheol.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Nov 10 9:49:11 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Billa 07 Ajith Nirav Shah Yuvan What a BGM!!!! idha hub-la sollavE dhairiyam vENum.. kamaan ya!

  
  
  I had.. infact I praised it within weeks after release...... & those times there were no Surya fans (he just had VEL then)
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Tue Nov 10 10:55:03 2009.

  UPO.
  Very well done. Best film of the year, without a doubt. Mohanlal
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Tue Nov 10 12:11:35 2009.

  Surprisingly I dint find anything special from Mohan lal in UPO
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Tue Nov 10 14:18:51 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Surprisingly I dint find anything special from Mohan lal in UPO

  
  
  I expected the final breaking-open scene to be a riot! That scene was a stunner in Hindi. Maybe 'cos of that. The scenes involving Lakshmi and Lal were the best scenes in the movie. Both acted well. Needless to say who acted better. And, not even a single clip seemed wasted in UPO. A wednesday's first half hour was painfully slow.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Nov 11 0:52:07 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Surprisingly I dint find anything special from Mohan lal in UPO I expected the final breaking-open scene to be a riot! That scene was a stunner in Hindi. Maybe 'cos of that. The scenes involving Lakshmi and Lal were the best scenes in the movie. Both acted well. Needless to say who acted better. And, not even a single clip seemed wasted in UPO. A wednesday's first half hour was painfully slow.

  
  
  for me kamal-lal meeting scene takes the cake - the ambidextrous nervous kamal trying to avoid lal - "police vandi maadhiri irukku"
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Nov 11 2:54:28 2009.

  ராமய்யாவின் குடிசை- பாரதி கிருஷ்ணகுமார்
  
  1968 கீழ்வெண்மணிப் படுகொலையைப் பற்றிய சிறப்பான ஆவணப்படம்.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Nov 11 2:58:14 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  ராமய்யாவின் குடிசை- பாரதி கிருஷ்ணகுமார் 1968 கீழ்வெண்மணிப் படுகொலையைப் பற்றிய சிறப்பான ஆவணப்படம்.

  
  
  ஐயா! இணையத்துல கிடைக்குதா ? இணைப்பு இருந்தால் தரவும்
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Nov 11 3:41:48 2009.

  joe wrote:

  P_R wrote: ராமய்யாவின் குடிசை- பாரதி கிருஷ்ணகுமார் 1968 கீழ்வெண்மணிப் படுகொலையைப் பற்றிய சிறப்பான ஆவணப்படம். ஐயா! இணையத்துல கிடைக்குதா ? இணைப்பு இருந்தால் தரவும்

  
  
  adhe adhe!
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Nov 11 3:48:20 2009.

  I don't think so.
  
  Vivs, it is available in New Book Lands, UsmAn Road.
  
  Joe, I hear he is going to sequel where he brings out several unknown facets that present Dravidian politicians in poor light. Controversy aagappOgudhu, adhukku munnAdi idhai paathurunga.
  
  This one is really well made. Whatever said and done about their double standards in election politics, one cannot but have great respect for the Communist movement and the countless committed workers on the field.
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Nov 11 3:51:24 2009.

  Actually even compared to Gold Rush, Kamal had added so much so much more. Gold Rush had two people scrambling for balance in that house and it was no doubt extremely impressive use of the medium (theorists can write essays about space, shape, dynamics, direction etc.). Throwing in a whole bunch of people <VAM speaks in our voice when saying kizhinjudhu idhula telungu vEraiyA !). All this with multiple Kamals, technically challenging himself like crazy. Tribute-nA ippidi irukkaNUm.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Nov 11 4:15:40 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  I don't think so. Vivs, it is available in New Book Lands, UsmAn Road. Joe, I hear he is going to sequel where he brings out several unknown facets that present Dravidian politicians in poor light. Controversy aagappOgudhu, adhukku munnAdi idhai paathurunga. This one is really well made. Whatever said and done about their double standards in election politics, one cannot but have great respect for the Communist movement and the countless committed workers on the field.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Nov 11 4:32:17 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Actually even compared to Gold Rush, Kamal had added so much so much more. Gold Rush had two people scrambling for balance in that house and it was no doubt extremely impressive use of the medium (theorists can write essays about space, shape, dynamics, direction etc.). Throwing in a whole bunch of people <VAM speaks in our voice when saying kizhinjudhu idhula telungu vEraiyA !). All this with multiple Kamals, technically challenging himself like crazy. Tribute-nA ippidi irukkaNUm.

  
  Oh, certainly, certainly. This is a magnificent tribute in every sense of the word. Again it amazes when people say that the climax was lifted from The Gold Rush. Is this what you call a "lift?!"
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Sat Nov 14 3:25:15 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  P_R wrote: Actually even compared to Gold Rush, Kamal had added so much so much more. Gold Rush had two people scrambling for balance in that house and it was no doubt extremely impressive use of the medium (theorists can write essays about space, shape, dynamics, direction etc.). Throwing in a whole bunch of people <VAM speaks in our voice when saying kizhinjudhu idhula telungu vEraiyA !). All this with multiple Kamals, technically challenging himself like crazy. Tribute-nA ippidi irukkaNUm. Oh, certainly, certainly. This is a magnificent tribute in every sense of the word. Again it amazes when people say that the climax was lifted from The Gold Rush. Is this what you call a "lift?!"

  
  
  That's the initial feeling the audience would get. But later, people with discerning capabalities, would ponder a little bit and finally come to know the genius.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Nov 14 4:14:55 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  I don't think so. Vivs, it is available in New Book Lands, UsmAn Road.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Sat Nov 14 12:04:42 2009.

  Udhiri-p-pookkaL.
  after a long time...
  innum azhudhittu irukken.
  Best film in thamizh film history - period.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sun Nov 15 17:39:14 2009.

  unnaippOl oruvan (first time).
  
  OK to watch once.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Nov 16 0:15:40 2009.

  Peranmai
  
  - Horrible.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Nov 16 1:27:43 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Peranmai - Horrible.

  You watched it
  
  

• From: k_vanan on Mon Nov 16 2:04:37 2009.

  Madurai to Tehni-vazhi Aandipatti
  
  Interesting plot.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Nov 16 3:16:07 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  kid-glove wrote: Peranmai - Horrible. You watched it

  
  
  I did. Friends pressure. (I liked his "Iyarkai" when it came out. "E" was a letdown apart from Jeeves And now this).
  
  I watched "Aadhavan" with personal interest.
  
  "Kanden kadhalai" - Next, Family pressure.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Nov 16 3:39:22 2009.

  me too watched Peranmai y'day at Rogini ....
  
  very weak movie-yaa.....dialogues were very weak, plot was weak, screenplay was strifled by predictability, very poor understanding of guerilla warfare, very naive macro-political theme, only the girls were strong
  
  Jeyam Ravi was, surprisingly, good.....sober roles are best suited for this gen guys......overa sound vitta dhaan, kaduppa irukku .......
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Mon Nov 16 4:17:37 2009.

  Kandhen Kadhalai- Bad, as predicted
  Barath looked more like a college student than a young entrepreneur. Right from the dressing, style, acting and dialogue delivery, you could sense that Barath was merely trying to impersonate Shahid Kapoor. Unfortunately this is just not the role for him and sadly, all his attempts to imitate SK falls flat on his face. A Vinay or a Ajmal would have been more suited for the role, IMHO.
  
  Tamannah looks beautiful, and that's about it. If she's serious about her acting career, then it's advisable that she takes a break from the film industry and enroll herself into the acting school for the time being.
  
  Ravichandran & Munna- The least said is better.
  
  While the other artists seems to find content in imitating the original characters, Santhanam is deprived from doing so...for among the minor changes that the Director made to the film, Santhanam's role happen to one of them...it's impossible to imitate the Sardarji of the original version, so, what does our good old Santhanam does?...he goes on to imitate Goundamani (like he has for the past few films). His attempts at humour too falls flat...
  
  Music is bearable but there's hardly anything to shout about.
  
  In short, avoid the film, but if you're as stubborn as me, then...May God Bless You!
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Nov 19 21:44:39 2009.

  2012 -Technical brilliance
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Nov 19 21:48:33 2009.

  avlothaanaa?
  
  as good as independence day or day after tomorrow?
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Nov 19 21:55:01 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  avlothaanaa? as good as independence day or day after tomorrow?

  
  
  I liked it more than independence day .I didn't watch Day after tmr
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Nov 19 21:58:10 2009.

  I think 2012 will set a Box office record ..In singapore ,hard to get ticket even in weekdays.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Nov 19 21:59:38 2009.

  great.. planning to go with kids this wknd.
  
  any new tamil releases coming?
  school holidays started.
  
  

• From: Sourav on Thu Nov 19 22:07:55 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  great.. planning to go with kids this wknd. any new tamil releases coming? school holidays started.

  
  pazhasi raja releasing today!
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Nov 19 22:26:33 2009.

  never heard of that!
  I doubt it will release here....
  
  

• From: AudazJay on Fri Nov 20 4:33:38 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  never heard of that! I doubt it will release here....

  
  
  It's a Malayalam periodic film starring Mamooty and Kaniha. Heard that it's being dubbed in Tamil as well.
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Nov 20 5:01:43 2009.

  AudazJay wrote:

  NOV wrote: never heard of that! I doubt it will release here.... It's a Malayalam periodic film starring Mamooty and Kaniha. Heard that it's being dubbed in Tamil as well.

  Thanks Jay, I was just given a lecture on it.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Nov 20 12:46:11 2009.

  NT's AlayaMaNi.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Nov 22 15:32:31 2009.

  Antha Naal
  
  what a movie
  
  I heard about this move but never expected this much . Dialogues are superb I liked at most even it is funny at times with this crime story. NT what a dare actor and it shows how he dedicated him to his profession.
  
  

• From: Cinefan on Mon Nov 23 1:53:54 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: kid-glove wrote: Peranmai - Horrible. You watched it I did. Friends pressure. (I liked his "Iyarkai" when it came out. "E" was a letdown apart from Jeeves And now this). I watched "Aadhavan" with personal interest. "Kanden kadhalai" - Next, Family pressure.

  
  
  Boring esp if you have watched Jab We Met.Tammu is not a patch on Kareena while Bharat is downright un-interesting.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Nov 23 6:33:57 2009.

  2012 - roller coaster
  
  http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1969045#1969045
  
  btw film is doing terrific busines in chennai........i had to attempt 3ice before getting a ticket and that too i got only for monday noon ........theatre was full for a monday noon show and audience response was too good.......i think im seeing a unprecedented crowd for a hollywood film after a very long time
  
  

• From: 19thmay on Mon Nov 23 6:38:46 2009.

  Sudhir,
  
  Padatha vidunga, meyAlume ulagam azhinjuduma? Munnadiye sonna nalla irrukum, neraya velaigal paakanum!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Nov 23 6:51:09 2009.

  19thmay wrote:

  Sudhir, Padatha vidunga, meyAlume ulagam azhinjuduma? Munnadiye sonna nalla irrukum, neraya velaigal paakanum!

  
  
  hopefully i get good hike and a good wife before it happens .......hopefully chaos theory and butterfly effect saves us
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Nov 23 6:53:46 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  hopefully i get good hike and a good wife before it happens

  
  
  Ulagam azhiyiRathukku munnadi oru appavi ponna pazhi vangaNuma ?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Nov 23 6:57:35 2009.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: hopefully i get good hike and a good wife before it happens Ulagam azhiyiRathukku munnadi oru appavi ponna pazhi vangaNuma ?

  
  
  enna panradhu, rana-galathlayum, oru kili-kilippu kekkudhu
  
  

• From: Appu s on Mon Nov 23 6:57:50 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  2012 - roller coaster http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1969045#1969045 btw film is doing terrific busines in chennai........i had to attempt 3ice before getting a ticket and that too i got only for monday noon ........theatre was full for a monday noon show and audience response was too good.......i think im seeing a unprecedented crowd for a hollywood film after a very long time

  
  
  same here in nagercoil,we could not get tickets in weekend days.. it is Tamil dubbed version in Ngl, Ruthram
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Nov 23 7:15:01 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  same here in nagercoil,we could not get tickets in weekend days.. it is Tamil dubbed version in Ngl, Ruthram

  
  yeah .I heard ..doing good business in Chakkaravarthi.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Mon Nov 23 9:28:46 2009.

  Ranganathan street munaila oru DVD... verum 30 roova.. never expected such clarity.. amazing in a week's time. innaiku night
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Nov 23 9:29:25 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe wrote: MADDY wrote: hopefully i get good hike and a good wife before it happens Ulagam azhiyiRathukku munnadi oru appavi ponna pazhi vangaNuma ? enna panradhu, rana-galathlayum, oru kili-kilippu kekkudhu

  
  
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Mon Nov 23 10:21:52 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Ranganathan street munaila oru DVD... verum 30 roova.. never expected such clarity.. amazing in a week's time. innaiku night

  
  
  Why Ranganathan st, even in Landmark, Odyssey, Music World, we can get Rs. 30 DVD with 3 films ( mozerbear) .
  
  So don't buy pirated CDs
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Nov 23 13:13:43 2009.

  Beauty and the beast -
  
  I was surprised to see one of my disney fav songs (Be our guest) in this movie
  
  I had this song in the disney CD (full of classics like whole new world, small small world, under the sea, hakunA matAda etc) that I got in LA during my first visit to USA in 95 and simply love this song.
  
  I still have the old, red colored CD
  
  

• From: app_engine on Mon Nov 23 23:00:43 2009.

  life is orE cartoon mayam - today's menu "shark tale"
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Nov 24 10:23:40 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  2012 - roller coaster http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1969045#1969045 btw film is doing terrific busines in chennai........i had to attempt 3ice before getting a ticket and that too i got only for monday noon ........theatre was full for a monday noon show and audience response was too good.......i think im seeing a unprecedented crowd for a hollywood film after a very long time

  
  
  Rama Narayanan killadi.. indha madhiri padangal rights vangiye nallaa sambadhikkiraru.....
  
  

• From: viraajan on Tue Nov 24 11:36:19 2009.

  Watching vaali on K TV
  
  Ajit
  
  Sim
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Nov 27 10:10:39 2009.

  Seen both Adhavan & vAraNam Ayiram the same day (ofcourse on home theater).
  
  Surya is horrible in both, the worse one being VA. At least the masala was tolerable (due to comedy, not so much lengthy etc). VA is horrible javvvvvvvu. I'm shocked this made money in TN. TRASH! (The few scenes with the engg graduate girl / berkley etc are kuppaiyil mAnikkam kind, sweet, like the hero says, like Raja music, otherwise total aRuvai movie)
  
  FF, skip and still it felt like VA ran for 6-7 hours. Highly idiotic. And the most horrible thing was this "old" get up of Surya.
  
  இவனுக்கு என்ன பெரிய கமலஹாசன்னு நெனப்போ?
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Nov 27 10:22:01 2009.

  On behalf of ajith and vijay fan clubs united association, I rewcommend a bharat ratna to app for bringing music to their ears. Nee yaaruda avanga behalfla pesaradhunnu kekka koodadhu. Ellam oru hate service dhaajn
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Nov 27 15:33:53 2009.

  Plum,
  
  I haven't felt so bored in any movie (even the trashiest ones) in recent times.
  
  This movie has made many other movies that I got so irritated / bored before (e.g. SOK, 7GRC, KKKK etc) appear great
  
  BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Nov 27 21:54:23 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later)

  
  
  and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ??
  
  

• From: Mahen on Fri Nov 27 22:48:38 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  app_engine wrote: BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later) and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ??

  
  
  Sabash maddy
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Nov 28 1:53:50 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  app_engine wrote: BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later) and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ??

  
  
  inga pudunguradhu pooravume theyvayilladha aani thaan
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sat Nov 28 1:58:26 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  app_engine wrote: BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later) and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ??

  
  
  padmapriya MBA
  
  venki
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sat Nov 28 2:53:46 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ??

  
  
  இப்படி காம்ப்ளிகேட்டட் கேள்வியெல்லாம் கேக்கப்டாது
  
  Though very few heroines have done commendable job in hero dominated masAlA movies, some have definitely left their indelible mark there - like JJ, Sridevi for e.g.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Nov 28 3:42:12 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  MADDY wrote: and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ?? இப்படி காம்ப்ளிகேட்டட் கேள்வியெல்லாம் கேக்கப்டாது Though very few heroines have done commendable job in hero dominated masAlA movies, some have definitely left their indelible mark there - like JJ, Sridevi for e.g.

  
  
  if director writes a "dumb" character, she cant help much......
  
  VENKI
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Nov 28 3:48:19 2009.

  Indian on KALAIGnar TV.....
  
  loved the way, old kamal and sukanya develop bonding over patriotism ........and in final scene, indian thaatha comes back with a moustache(which he had removed for his son) - nice touch ....
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sat Nov 28 3:50:19 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Indian on KALAIGnar TV..... loved the way, old kamal and sukanya develop bonding over patriotism ........and in final scene, indian thaatha comes back with a moustache(which he had removed for his son) - nice touch ....

  
  "Kappaleri Piyaachu" and "PAchai Kiligal" - evergreen songs
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Nov 28 14:15:24 2009.

  தொட்டாசிணுங்கி - Raghuvaran never impressed me like this
  
  

• From: Anban on Sat Nov 28 16:03:42 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  MADDY wrote: app_engine wrote: BTW, I don't belong to any specific hate group when it comes to current set of heroes (actually I liked ghajini & ayan despite the dumb heroine in the later) and the intelligent heroines in tamil films are ......... ?? padmapriya MBA venki

  MBA padichaa intelligent-aa?? entha ooru nyaayam ithu
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Sat Nov 28 21:23:27 2009.

  Adhavan for Vadivelu again ! vattaa ferformans
  
  

• From: Querida on Sun Nov 29 17:03:50 2009.

  Watched an old and new movie this weekend
  
  Watched "Mangamma Sabatham" on Vijay Tv, Kamal as the weakling was memorable as well as Satyaraj's sadistic tendencies. The morality was a bit astonishing since Managamma wasn't exactly sane...or have the bigger heart as expected from mother figures...literally she raised her son to be her tool for revenge...poor Madhavi...she better not get on her mother-in-law's bad side!
  
  Finally watched Aadhavan...stunts were impressive, story had a nice twist...songs were enjoyable...found ten year old Surya creepy looking...could not believe the actor Murali passed away! Vadivelu had such good reactions and lines in this movie...great fun that was!
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Nov 30 11:26:16 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Indian on KALAIGnar TV..... loved the way, old kamal and sukanya develop bonding over patriotism ........and in final scene, indian thaatha comes back with a moustache(which he had removed for his son) - nice touch ....

  
  
  yeah.. I too started liking Sankar's picturisations.. but avaru.. kitta thatta best team vechurukkradhala (esp. Sujatha in screenplay + dialogues) full credit avarukku thara thOnalai
  
  & as usual.. sheelu... aapicer.. paneer.. pinna nee enna veneera subbayyaa.... sooperayya
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Nov 30 11:27:33 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  FF, skip and still it felt like VA ran for 6-7 hours.

  
  
  & the other one being "uzhavan" & "KK KK" <for me>
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Nov 30 11:58:36 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  the worse one being VA. At least the masala was tolerable (due to comedy, not so much lengthy etc). VA is horrible javvvvvvvu. I'm shocked this made money in TN. TRASH! (The few scenes with the engg graduate girl / berkley etc are kuppaiyil mAnikkam kind, sweet, like the hero says, like Raja music, otherwise total aRuvai movie) FF, skip and still it felt like VA ran for 6-7 hours. Highly idiotic. And the most horrible thing was this "old" get up of Surya. இவனுக்கு என்ன பெரிய கமலஹாசன்னு நெனப்போ?

  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Nov 30 11:59:23 2009.

  Most part of
  
  SABARI
  
  --- Title + pre-release photo shoot..... idhai thavira padathula perusa onnum illai
  
  --- matra sameebathiya VK padangal alavukku comedy illai.. <except cell phone operation.. i am not sure y this can't be possible >
  
  --- PattukOttai Prabhakar dialogue... <except a few dialouges in Lankan Tamils refugee camp>
  
  One more thing is proved:
  
  Sarath's hit director, when joining hands with Captain.. its sure to be a flop & the list is:
  
  Pavithran ----- Thirumoorthy
  KSR -------- Dharma Chakkaram
  Suresh -------- Sabari
  
  -----------------------------------
  villain: nan puli da..
  scissor manohar: varradhu sabari vasan.. puli kitta irundhu paal karandhu kudichuduvaru... < they show an Ayyapan banner>
  
  

• From: Querida on Mon Nov 30 14:49:31 2009.

  Watched Eeram...i think the cinematography helped this movie succeed in its far-fetched theme...sometimes mixed up Aadhi and Nanda...they looked similar to me...especially profile view...or maybe that's just me...the whole movie was dank, wet and the rain always on cue...water effects were done well.
  
  great back stories as to why each had revenge wrecked on them...the difference between feeling sorry for them at their deaths and then finding out how horrible they are...
  
  nice songs...esp mazhaiye mazhaiye
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Mon Nov 30 14:52:26 2009.

  -techic fault-
  
  

• From: Querida on Mon Nov 30 14:53:11 2009.

  app_engine wrote:

  life is orE cartoon mayam - today's menu "shark tale"

  
  
  this cartoon movie i went to theatres to watch...was very, very disappointed...wish Will Smith had gotten a better debut into animated films....
  
  want to be impressed by animation...watch any of miyazaki's films...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Dec 1 2:35:33 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  great back stories as to why each had revenge wrecked on them...

  
  
  i thot the sub plots were very weak........infact nanda and sindhu's characterisation-e enakku velangala......
  
  

• From: Scale on Tue Dec 1 2:44:40 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  app_engine wrote: the worse one being VA. At least the masala was tolerable (due to comedy, not so much lengthy etc). VA is horrible javvvvvvvu. I'm shocked this made money in TN. TRASH! (The few scenes with the engg graduate girl / berkley etc are kuppaiyil mAnikkam kind, sweet, like the hero says, like Raja music, otherwise total aRuvai movie) FF, skip and still it felt like VA ran for 6-7 hours. Highly idiotic. And the most horrible thing was this "old" get up of Surya. இவனுக்கு என்ன பெரிய கமலஹாசன்னு நெனப்போ?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Querida on Tue Dec 1 9:06:10 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Querida wrote: great back stories as to why each had revenge wrecked on them... i thot the sub plots were very weak........infact nanda and sindhu's characterisation-e enakku velangala......

  
  
  oh I didn't mean Nanda and Sindhu's back story I meant why she killed those characters...their stories...cause at first you are repeatedly told that it's her fault and that these ppl are all witnesses.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Thu Dec 3 21:49:17 2009.

  Nadodigal, finally.
  
  Very entertaining. Didn't dig the comedy dude though (what's his name?). Sashi Kumar can be a heck of an actor, if he can start dropping the Kubricksian "through the eyebrow stare". The mid section was the best part, good exercise in editing & pacing.
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Dec 4 1:51:50 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Sashi Kumar can be a heck of an actor, if he can start dropping the Kubricksian "through the eyebrow stare".

  
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Dec 4 1:57:28 2009.

  Yen boss ayitengga? Tappa ethachum ?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 4 4:03:15 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Nadodigal, finally. Sashi Kumar can be a heck of an actor

  
  
  ennaadhu???!!!!!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Dec 4 4:12:14 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: Nadodigal, finally. Sashi Kumar can be a heck of an actor ennaadhu???!!!!!

  
  
  
  
  grouch ......he couldnt deliver dialogues smoothly(ex:modern youths), neenga ennaana.......indha first-timer-staring-stammering case madhiri irundhaan
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 4 4:37:37 2009.

  nadikaradhu irukatum..medai la oru edathula nindu pesa sollanum..jerk utukute pesuraan...
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Dec 4 4:37:43 2009.

  Haiyoo...manusanukku potential irukku-nu sonnen. Good actor agapovathum pogaathathum avar kaiyila irukku. That's why I said, "can be". There were parts where others would have ruined it or totally hammed it up inappropriately. I thought he did a fine job within the scope given. Plus how would one define "a heck of an actor"?
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Dec 4 4:40:04 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  nadikaradhu irukatum..medai la oru edathula nindu pesa sollanum..jerk utukute pesuraan...

  SR (in Mahanadigan): Cinemavula nadikkiravan nadigan. Meedaiyila nadikkiravan Mahanadigan
  
  Okay, I am backing off from "Sasi Kumar can be a heck of an actor" bandwagon. I'll stick to Madhavan, thank you.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Dec 4 8:12:03 2009.

  KandEn kAdhalai
  
  --- watched until the song, just before tamanna & barath reach Theni..
  
  --- I have the habit of watching the film fully (if it is available).. how worse it may be.. so, going by that, I am going to see the remaining part too
  
  
  --- Song varumpodhu.. room mate officela irundhu vandhan...
  
  HR: dei.. nee padatha first irundhu parthuttu iru.. nan konjam thuni alasi pOtuttu vandhurrEn..
  
  RM: sari sari...
  
  --- I dragged it to the start..
  
  RM: vidu vidu....
  
  --- he searched for Santhanam... & saw couple of his scenes.. closed it !!!!!!!
  
  

• From: Scale on Sat Dec 5 3:39:33 2009.

  அழுகிய தமிழ் மகன் டாக்குமென்ட்ரீ
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Dec 5 10:45:09 2009.

  finally watched:
  
  KandEn kAdhalai
  
  - Sathanam was OK for most part & with Singamuthu it was
  
  - Santhanam scenes pOga... padathula parkkumpadiyanadhu.. oru 15 - 20 nimida kaatchigalthan
  
  - kittathatta documentary than.. scale, thanks for reminding this word
  
  - Santhanam oru vasanam solluvan.. 'vehicle by 5:30' parkka poyittu "ennayya idhu sava sava savanu pesikitte irukkanga" -- idhu indha moththa padathukkum porundhum
  
  - Boys appuram Barath indha madhiri nadichurundha onnum thOnirukkadhu.. seval, pazhani.. idhukkappuram ivaru english pesumpodhu
  
  
  <requesting 4 & 5 version of rotfl's>
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Dec 5 11:54:44 2009.

  Watched UPO.
  
  The conversation between Natasha and Mohanlal. awesome! i.e 'can i smoke in here' conversation.
  
  yaaru pa indha natasha? pramadhamana nadippu. romba casual Thumbsup! indha ponna engayo pAtha madiri irukku
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 5 22:05:19 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  yaaru pa indha natasha? pramadhamana nadippu. romba casual Thumbsup! indha ponna engayo pAtha madiri irukku

  
  
  She looked like the heroine of the film "Youth"
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sat Dec 5 23:25:08 2009.

  adhu Anuja Iyer. Seen in sivi, ninaithaalE inikkum (2009) etc.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Dec 6 0:07:40 2009.

  Yeah. But she resembles that "Sandhya" a lot. Or may be its just me
  
  EDIT: Just checked that wiki page. Her original name is Sandhya
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Dec 6 1:04:50 2009.

  Thanks nerd. Oh yeah. I checked that wiki page. It says that her name is Sandya. But not the heroine of Youth
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Dec 6 1:59:24 2009.

  WIKI wrote:

  Her first film was the horror flick, Sivi, in which she played a ghost. She was praised for her portrayal for the role.[1] Her second film, Mudhal Mudhal Mudhal VaraiTamil cinema's first 'urban centric' film went on to become a critically acclaimed film winning awards at international film festivals for its innovative approach to film making. Her role was one again lauded by critics and audiences.

  
  enna ezhavu idhu?
  BTW, http://bit.ly/6Iz8pv
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 6 9:57:33 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  BTW, http://bit.ly/6Iz8pv

  
  
  //arghhh, tamil blogs are spreading hatred in name of caste and probably thats the only thing they are capable of and interested in.......look at the comments //
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Dec 6 10:00:29 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: BTW, http://bit.ly/6Iz8pv //arghhh, tamil blogs are spreading hatred in name of caste and probably thats the only thing they are capable of and interested in.......look at the comments //

  
  
  most of them r reputed bloggers aama
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 6 10:09:54 2009.

  Appu s wrote:

  most of them r reputed bloggers aama

  
  
  //i try to skip most of tamil blogs........hope they are just a minority voice in the whole of state.........they should criticise the high handedness of so-called upper caste people but to search for a fault and criticise them for a irrelevant issue is signs of desperation..........//
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Dec 6 11:52:42 2009.

  Watched Couples Retreat..Ok film.. But sexual content konjam overu Kuru kuru was played about 5-10secs in a lovemaking scene but nothing explicit Undress was played when the couples had to undress Imagine i had to watch a black fat man's naked arse on big screen Wonder how ARR would have felt watching all those scenes when doing the bgm Overall an enjoyable film
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 6 12:55:09 2009.

  Mahen
  
  my last film was kanden kadhalai - very underwhelming.....i was livid at why a talended person like bharath tries to imitate shahid kapur and fail miserably at that.....the office scenes were straight out of t.rajendar films ........tamanna was not a patch on kareena in happy scenes but betters kareena easily in sad scenes........the scene where barath tries to take her back home, she was ........but she looked very dull - konjam makeup better-a irundhirukanum......support cast ellam edhukku fits vandha madhiri "jerk" - azhagam, nizhalgal, ravichandran, tammy;s mom role etc......
  
  santhanam really was the highlight (this was a original piece, thats y).........shades of anja nenjan but has to work on making crisper and shortcut dialogues.......many jokes, were really late in delivery......but he is showing lot of hope
  
  sorry guys, but im a big fan of Imtiaz ali, so u can take my comment with pinch of salt
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Dec 6 13:01:01 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Mahen my last film was kanden kadhalai - very underwhelming.....i was livid at why a talended person like bharath tries to imitate shahid kapur and fail miserably at that.....the office scenes were straight out of t.rajendar films ........tamanna was not a patch on kareena in happy scenes but betters kareena easily in sad scenes........the scene where barath tries to take her back home, she was ........but she looked very dull - konjam makeup better-a irundhirukanum......support cast ellam edhukku fits vandha madhiri "jerk" - azhagam, nizhalgal, ravichandran, tammy;s mom role etc...... santhanam really was the highlight (this was a original piece, thats y).........shades of anja nenjan but has to work on making crisper and shortcut dialogues.......many jokes, were really late in delivery......but he is showing lot of hope sorry guys, but im a big fan of Imtiaz ali, so u can take my comment with pinch of salt

  
  
  Suits her in the 2nd half to show that shes depressed
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sun Dec 6 13:30:11 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  i was livid at why a talended person like bharath tries to imitate shahid kapur and fail miserably at that.....the office scenes were straight out of t.rajendar films

  
  Watched the "En anbe (Kanden Kanden Kadhalai)" song on Sun Music.
  It looks like part of the visuals are from "Behka" (Ghajini)
  And the office scenes in the song were
  1. Bharadhan is playing guitar in the office with yung gaeLs surrounding him. Check out the expressions and comfort levels of the one ladies standing to his right
  2. They are in a conference room and for some reason Bharadhan stands and speaks (don't know if there's any presentation in the background. At the end of it everybody else stands up and claps
  3. Office la ya veliyava nu therla, Bharadhan plays drums , getsup, loosens his tie and walks away happily....
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Dec 6 13:51:37 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  1. Bharadhan is playing guitar in the office with yung gaeLs surrounding him. Check out the expressions and comfort levels of the one ladies standing to his right

  adutha thadavai gavanikkaNum.
  
  

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  3. Office la ya veliyava nu therla, Bharadhan plays drums , getsup, loosens his tie and walks away happily....

  
  buppula ferformance-nga. Beer ellAm kudichikittu iruppAinga.
  
  Ork-life balance.
  
  

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  2. They are in a conference room and for some reason Bharadhan stands and speaks (don't know if there's any presentation in the background. At the end of it everybody else stand up and clap

  
  
  nalla vElai innikku night-E padichittEn. naaLaikku office-la padichu sirichu maatikittu iruppEn
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 6 23:06:15 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  1. Bharadhan is playing guitar in the office with yung gaeLs surrounding him. Check out the expressions and comfort levels of the one ladies standing to his right 2. They are in a conference room and for some reason Bharadhan stands and speaks (don't know if there's any presentation in the background. At the end of it everybody else stands up and claps 3. Office la ya veliyava nu therla, Bharadhan plays drums , getsup, loosens his tie and walks away happily....

  
  
  neenga innum padathula paakkanum, all of a sudden, everyone gets up and claps for baradhar's inspiring speech ........
  
  //they shot this whole office thingy in olympia tech park, Guindy not on the HP,verizon side though......//
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Dec 6 23:20:45 2009.

  Saw Jeans after long time ..
  
  Prasanth - No comments
  
  Aish -
  
  sema fresh ah iruntha ... sila edathula nadikka kasta pattalum first padathula Paathi padathula muttiku mela thaan dress
  
  ARR - as usual poturuvom ... BGM super nu solla mudiyaathu but songs
  
  Shankar - kandippa oru salam podanum ivarukku .... antha kaalathulayae CG work nalla pannirunthaar ... script thaan konjam week nalum pakkurathuku nalla pannirunthaar ....
  
  nethu paathappa padam america la nadakarathungaratha kamikka neraya unwanted things kamichurukkar but 90's kku
  
  s ve sekhar, gilli amma , senthil ,raju sundaram comedies lam super ...
  
  lashmi thaan konjam irritating ah irunthuchu
  
  nasar -
  
  padathula onnu nalla therinjuthu prasanth ah venumnae avamana paduthuna mari ...
  
  avar yethana vaati aish ah thoduraungaratha enniralam pola
  
  prasanth kiss adikirappa nalla pachakkunu adikirar aana antha amma adikirappa vanthu vacha vegathula eduthuruthu ...
  
  nalla time pass movie
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 6 23:39:52 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  Saw Jeans after long time .. Prasanth - No comments

  
  
  
  
  

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  ARR - as usual poturuvom ... BGM super nu solla mudiyaathu but songs

  
  
  True, its rahman mistake that such pieces are considered songs but not BGM
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Dec 6 23:58:32 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  Aish - sema fresh ah iruntha ... sila edathula nadikka kasta pattalum first padathula Paathi padathula muttiku mela thaan dress

  First was Iruvar. Maddy, eppadi miss panunengga.
  
  I like the film for only two reason: ARR (not his best) and Raju Sundaram.
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Dec 7 0:14:07 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: Aish - sema fresh ah iruntha ... sila edathula nadikka kasta pattalum first padathula Paathi padathula muttiku mela thaan dress First was Iruvar. Maddy, eppadi miss panunengga. I like the film for only two reason: ARR (not his best) and Raju Sundaram.

  
  
  aiyo aama maranthutaen ... neraya time antha padam enakku nyabagam varamalae poiruthu
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Dec 7 0:16:13 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: Saw Jeans after long time .. Prasanth - No comments VinodKumar's wrote: ARR - as usual poturuvom ... BGM super nu solla mudiyaathu but songs True, its rahman mistake that such pieces are considered songs but not BGM

  
  
  appdi illa maddy neraya place ordinary music directors use pannura mari songs oda tune ayae BGM ah use pannirunthaar ....
  
  theme music eppdi korai solla mudiyum ...
  
  antha sad song
  
  but enakku atha ketkurappalam kaadu potta kaadu song nyabagathuku vanthuruthu
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Dec 7 0:22:11 2009.

  Some more noticed things ...
  
  Camera man - athukku piragu avaru yethum padam pannunaara
  
  Assitant directors - vasantha balan , muthu vadugu (perarasu's cousin brother he was about to do a movie with vijay ... )
  
  co director - Madura Madhesh ....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 7 0:28:16 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  ordinary music directors use pannura mari songs oda tune ayae BGM ah use pannirunthaar ....

  
  
  i have problems with this piece as well.....anyways, will write on it some other time......
  
  

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  but enakku atha ketkurappalam kaadu potta kaadu song nyabagathuku vanthuruthu

  
  
  i really dont understand how.....maybe u can help
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Dec 7 0:32:21 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  but enakku atha ketkurappalam kaadu potta kaadu song nyabagathuku vanthuruthu

  
  
  i really dont understand how.....maybe u can help[/quote]
  
  may be enakku appdi thonirukalam ... naan en frnds neraya pethukita ithu sonnapa rejeetted nu sollitaanga ....
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Dec 7 0:34:54 2009.

  You tube not opening, I guess you are referring to punnagaiyil thee mootti song
  
  punnagaiyil thee mootti vs. kaadu potta kaadu ?
  
  yArAvadhu musicals vandhu: reNdumE senjurutti-lErndhu madhyamAvati-kku pOra route-nu oru explanation kudungappA
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Dec 7 0:36:56 2009.

  athae thaan PR
  
  enakku music pathi lam avalava theriyaathu ketkurappa orae mari irunthuchu ...
  
  yethavathu thappa pesiruntha manichurunga vithuvaangalae
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 7 9:47:01 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: ordinary music directors use pannura mari songs oda tune ayae BGM ah use pannirunthaar .... i have problems with this piece as well.....anyways, will write on it some other time......

  
  
  idhukkellam edhukku yosikkanum... pattunnu oru arikkaya ready pannidunga
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 7 9:49:40 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  Saw Jeans after long time .. nasar -

  
  
  ellorukkum therinja news.. theriyadhavargalukku:
  
  Sankar wanted to do this as a complete comedy film... & he was thinking to cast Goundamani for Nassar's character.. yes.. as twins
  
  & Gounder acted as twins in "Kannan Varuvan" <sundar C direction>
  
  

• From: interz on Mon Dec 7 10:15:44 2009.

  Naan Avan Illai 2 - average sequel with Oomph factor
  
  I only watched this movie because of the skin show, among the sexy females (Lakshmi Rai, Shruthi Prakash, Swetha Menon and Rachana Mourya) my pick was Rachana Mourya. I thank the censors for sleeping when they were watching this movie.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 7 10:33:27 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: Saw Jeans after long time .. nasar - Sankar wanted to do this as a complete comedy film... & he was thinking to cast Goundamani for Nassar's character.. yes.. as twins

  
  
  Jeans would have become a totally different movie and would have made better sense if koundamani had acted in it as full fledged "chaos" COMEDY......but given prasanth was still the hero, even that would have been averted
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Tue Dec 8 1:47:24 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Appu s wrote: most of them r reputed bloggers aama //i try to skip most of tamil blogs........hope they are just a minority voice in the whole of state.........they should criticise the high handedness of so-called upper caste people but to search for a fault and criticise them for a irrelevant issue is signs of desperation..........//

  
  
  Exactly. To force a guy in choosing his name is downright slavery. If this is not arrogance / establishing superiority in the name of equality I don't know what (anti)racism is!
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue Dec 8 13:09:38 2009.

  Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja
  
  Malayalam Cinema's Magnum Opus. Splendidly crafted and captured on a wide canvas, the film is engrossing to say the least. There must have been a lot of home work done to make it authentic and it is no small feat to recapture the 18th century with all its intricacies. The dense forests of Wayanad have been captured on a never before scale and the gorilla warfare indulged by the tribals against the British is nicely done.
  
  Oscar winner Rasool Pookutty [he,who was never in the scheme of things till the film was completely shot and who on seeing the raw film offered his expertise] had done a splendid job. The sounds are so real that you would feel that you are in the midst of a rain or a war. The photography [Ramnath Shetty] is above notch with the fight between the British army and the locals and the rain scenes standing out. More of a war film, still Ilaiyaraja shows his mettle in BGM. Two songs, Kunnathu by Chitra and Aadhi Ushus by Dasettan stand out.
  
  With fight scenes being his cup of tea, our own load man [Thanks to Bala for the coinage] has shouldered his load well. Manoj.K.Jayan as a tribal leader does justice to his character. Padmapriya is a revelation. She as a tribal girl shows real verve in the combat scenes using bow and arrow as well as sword. Dubbing done in her own voice adds a natural flavour to the role she essays. For Kaniha it must have been a once in a life time experience rubbing shoulders with the giants.
  
  M.T. [Vasudevan Nair] the script writer is perfect here, though some would think his Oru Vadakkan Veera Gadha was still better. Director Hariharan deserves kudos for doing a great job. Producer Gokulam Gopalan [of Gokulam Chit funds] must be congratulated for coming forward to produce a film of such magnitude.He had spent nearly 25 crores, hitherto unheard of in Malayalam cine world.
  
  What should I say about the man who has brought alive the first freedom fighter of Kerala (a la kattabomman) in flesh and blood? A remarkable performance and after NT, if someone had fitted the historical characters like a T, it is only this man. Salutations to you Mr.Mammootty.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Dec 9 2:02:37 2009.

  MS, Great review. (Pazhassi Raja paartha hubbers-ngara groupla) naan inimE thani aaL illai
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Dec 9 2:24:50 2009.

  Murali-sar, now you are making me eager to see this film. Thanks. Is the Tamizh version out? If so, how about Mammooty's voice? Plum?
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Dec 9 2:37:51 2009.

  I dont know grouch. I saw it in Malayalam in Mumbai. Tamizh version inga varavE illai!
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Dec 9 3:00:50 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  MS, Great review. (Pazhassi Raja paartha hubbers-ngara groupla) naan inimE thani aaL illai

  
  
  Saw it in Malayalam in Chennai.
  You were right
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Dec 9 3:05:24 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: MS, Great review. (Pazhassi Raja paartha hubbers-ngara groupla) naan inimE thani aaL illai Saw it in Malayalam in Chennai. You were right

  
  In what sense?
  EDIT: Got it, ivLO dhAnA idhu-nu irundhuchA?
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Dec 9 3:22:16 2009.

  It was a good looking film but seemed consciously so (I can't substantiate/elaborate that). Didn't find it very engrossing.
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Dec 9 7:55:09 2009.

  ok, I expected that. How was 'loadman'?
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Dec 9 8:48:39 2009.

  Sarathkumar was very impressive actually. Even after upping expectations, I found him quite good. Generally liked the performances a lot. And the stunt sequences were done well too. But overall there was something lacking.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Dec 9 8:54:07 2009.

  Funny people appdinnu oru ingipees padam paarthen - meyyaalume romba funnyavum adhukku melayum irundhuchu.
  
  Revisited Mouna raagam and still love it after so many revisits over so many years. Mani and Raaja combinationla oru marakka mudiyaadha padam. An ideal test bed to check my own maturity - chinna puLLaya irukka solla paartha sila vishayangal purinjadhu (entertain pannichchu). Ippo paakka solla vera sila vishayangal puriyudhu (impress pannudhu). Maharaasan kari kadai joke maadhiri irukulla?
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Wed Dec 9 14:14:36 2009.

  Thanks Plum.
  
  Rakesh,
  
  Tamizh version has come and gone as expected because people in TN would not have been able to relate to it. Mammootty himself had done the dubbing in Tamil.
  
  Prabhu,
  
  Your view is quite understandable. To get involved in such types of movies, one must have lived atleast for some time in Kerala, IMO.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Mahen on Fri Dec 11 23:41:42 2009.

  Paa A simple film about human relationship..Amitabh IR and Pc sreeram
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Dec 11 23:44:12 2009.

  A Frog and a Princess
  
  Prince is Naveen its Indian season in Hollywood.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Dec 12 17:44:08 2009.

  paa dayummm!!!!!
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Dec 13 0:36:36 2009.

  Netrikann
  Ilayaraja Best BGM for Rajni, I guess. And, thalaivar as usual wicked performance! All that eeswaran da kodeeswaran, chakkaravarthy, pipe... thalaivA... only you fossifle
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 13 2:11:41 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  A Frog and a Princess Prince is Naveen its Indian season in Hollywood.

  
  
  Avatar will be the hightlight of this season
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Dec 13 6:20:34 2009.

  quite obviously.
  but except for the title, anything Indian abt it?
  
  story is of human race occupying (read philandering) another world in a faraway planet. story will be similar to american story of cheating the native (red) indians.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 13 6:41:02 2009.

  Not only the word avatar
  
  the blue skin avatar men
  the bird & animal vehicles
  the tails
  
  remind me the great epic Ramayanam
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Dec 13 6:46:47 2009.

  hmmm. interesting.
  we know what happened when Mahabharatha went to hollywood.
  six episodes
  
  

• From: Anban on Sun Dec 13 17:36:58 2009.

  saw Ninaithaale Inikkum..
  
  i have seen parts of this movie before..
  
  btw.. whats a gud movie?? logic, entertainment ellaame irukattum.. but still.. nammala sirikka vatchu, santhosa padavatchu antha characters-oda attach panraangale.. athu
  
  i really liked it..
  
  balachandhar, thalaivan, rajini, jayapradha and above all MSV !!!
  
  as the title card reads, "ithu oru thenisai malai"
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Dec 13 18:05:01 2009.

  Anban wrote:

  saw Ninaithaale Inikkum.. i have seen parts of this movie before.. btw.. whats a gud movie?? logic, entertainment ellaame irukattum.. but still.. nammala sirikka vatchu, santhosa padavatchu antha characters-oda attach panraangale.. athu i really liked it.. balachandhar, thalaivan, rajini, jayapradha and above all MSV !!! as the title card reads, "ithu oru thenisai malai"

  
  
  bold lines padikira varaikum puthu NI ah pathi solluringala palaya NI ah pathi solluringalanu i was confused
  
  

• From: Anban on Sun Dec 13 18:16:24 2009.

  puthu Ninaithaale inikkum??.. common .. athellaam rubbish.. it doesnt matter if its new or old to me..
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Dec 13 18:28:09 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  bold lines padikira varaikum puthu NI ah pathi solluringala palaya NI ah pathi solluringalanu i was confused

  
  
  exactly. I thought anban went super crazy
  
  the new ninaithale inikkum
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Dec 13 22:39:06 2009.

  Caught the last part of Kuselan. Thanks to Rajini's acting and the subtitle, my wife cried.
  
  Grouch to wife: Thank god you haven't seen the whole film, or you'd be crying for different reason.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Tue Dec 15 11:19:03 2009.

  Nizhalkuthu - solid solid film - first Adoor movie I saw - blows away almost every other movie that impressed me out of the park save a few. Now I have to catch up with all adoor movies.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Tue Dec 15 11:56:35 2009.

  Nizhalkuthu is one of Adoor's more accessible films, I think. Paced a lot faster than say ElippaththAyam. I'e only seen these 2, though I hear nAlu peNNugaL is a good watch.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Tue Dec 15 15:04:16 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  Nizhalkuthu is one of Adoor's more accessible films, I think. Paced a lot faster than say ElippaththAyam. I'e only seen these 2, though I hear nAlu peNNugaL is a good watch.

  
  yes a lot more accessible than those slow moving art films that I had seen earlier. Did you notice how the tone of the movie changes between the 'regular' proceedings and the 'narrated story' - the visual is all the more lush and green and the music also gets more pronounced - It was a masterstroke - heightening the 'beauty' and getting us hooked into a simple love story and then bang - the reality - sensationalism - Adoor style - I simply Love it!!!
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Dec 16 21:45:20 2009.

  last nite I watched zombieland easily the best comedy of the year
  but extremely violent
  
  

• From: Wibha on Fri Dec 18 5:22:39 2009.

  kannada excuse me
  
  its based off of duet idhai okandhu paatha enaku
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Dec 18 6:17:28 2009.

  Wibha wrote:

  kannada excuse me its based off of duet idhai okandhu paatha enaku

  
  
  andha paatu mangalore bus stand-la pottanga... bayandhu poi kedacha bus-la eri odi vandhutten.. excuse me excuse me-nnu... asinga asingama vaayila varudhu
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 18 6:32:43 2009.

  His Highness Abdulla with subtitles
  
  Thanks to beemapalli market
  
  excellent entertainer
  
  Pleasing songs,Simple plot element,excellent acting by lal,nedumudi venu and underlying humour in most part of the movie - beautiful entertainer.
  
  P.S: The beemapalli market said to be the godown of movie cds and electronic goods doesnt have many popular malayalam movies of 80's that i have asked for.but neraya tamil and hindi padam vechirukainga
  
  even many 80's and early 90's movies of mammootty and mohan lal are not there...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Dec 18 6:49:15 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  P.S: The beemapalli market said to be the godown of movie cds and electronic goods doesnt have many popular malayalam movies of 80's that i have asked for.but neraya tamil and hindi padam vechirukainga

  
  
  where is this ??
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 18 7:18:58 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: P.S: The beemapalli market said to be the godown of movie cds and electronic goods doesnt have many popular malayalam movies of 80's that i have asked for.but neraya tamil and hindi padam vechirukainga where is this ??

  
  Near Trivendrum.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Dec 18 7:22:35 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: P.S: The beemapalli market said to be the godown of movie cds and electronic goods doesnt have many popular malayalam movies of 80's that i have asked for.but neraya tamil and hindi padam vechirukainga where is this ?? Near Trivendrum.

  
  
  oh, thanks......
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Dec 18 7:29:46 2009.

  Vettaikaran -
  
  Saleem Ghouse-Vijay scenes
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Dec 18 9:47:55 2009.

  pA - average (weak on emotional front, gets only 10% of anjali Otherwise, entertaining)
  
  Songs are a big plus! big B is lovable / commendable and so are other kids & his pAtti.
  
  Weakest are the other two lead characters and dull performance from them as well (may be I'm doing a very unfavourable mental comparison with Raghuvaran / Revathy)
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Dec 19 3:45:22 2009.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Wibha wrote: kannada excuse me its based off of duet idhai okandhu paatha enaku andha paatu mangalore bus stand-la pottanga... bayandhu poi kedacha bus-la eri odi vandhutten.. excuse me excuse me-nnu... asinga asingama vaayila varudhu

  
  
  I like the song excuse me just the first few lines...
  
  but adhukapram
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Dec 20 2:11:51 2009.

  groucho070 wrote:

  Grouch to wife: Thank god you haven't seen the whole film, or you'd be crying for different reason.

  
  
  Hollywood director screens his latest civil war film to select critics. End of the film he asks anxiously
  director: do you think this film will be offensive to the South
  critic:...and to the North too.
  
  - Bennet Cerf's Sound of Laughter (which I have been actively promoting everywhere in the last few weeks)
  
  

• From: Anban on Sun Dec 20 5:33:10 2009.

  Vaanaprastham !! blown over by this beautiful movie .. Mohanlal is soooooooo natural
  
  
  appadiyea, IRUVAR paakkalaamnu nenachen.. i knew that the mani-ness in the movie will irritate me.. but still try pannen.. ayyyaaa saami mudialappaa.. i feel happy that he tries some offbeat things, but still cliche is his forte.. max 10 mins paathen..
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 20 5:49:09 2009.

  Anban wrote:

  Vaanaprastham !! blown over by this beautiful movie ..Mohanlal is soooooooo natural

  
  
  everything else is too good in the movie except the heroine selection...
  
  ...especially lal
  
  

• From: pulavar on Sun Dec 20 6:07:18 2009.

  Check this.....
  
  http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693253/Carnatic-Ragas-in-Ilayaraja-Films
  
  Carnatic Ragas in Ilayaraja Films
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Sun Dec 20 23:20:10 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  Hollywood director screens his latest civil war film to select critics. End of the film he asks anxiously director: do you think this film will be offensive to the South critic:...and to the North too.

  I actually expected pages of P. Vasu bashing. Never mind.
  
  

  P_R wrote:

  - Bennet Cerf's Sound of Laughter (which I have been actively promoting everywhere in the last few weeks)

  Don't know him
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Dec 20 23:25:57 2009.

  Moodupani
  
  Prathap
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 0:31:38 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Anban wrote: Vaanaprastham !! blown over by this beautiful movie ..Mohanlal is soooooooo natural everything else is too good in the movie except the heroine selection... ...especially lal

  
  Exactly! KanigaL(shobana, revathy, manju, and to a lesser extent, samyuktha) iruppa kaai kavarndha kadhai
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 1:47:55 2009.

  nadodikaathu.
  Considering that the remake, kadhanayagan is feted by us, the original stands out for outgrowing what essentially could have fizzled out as a collection of set-pieces, and 'jokes', which is exactly what the remake is. You don't realise it until you see the original. Don't get me wrong, it is not a masterpiece nor is kadhanayagan unentertaining. Nevertheless, the nuances and characterisation captured in malayalam has clearly been translated into generic pandiarajan character
  80s and 90s malayalam cinema stands tall in indian mainstream movie history. Advocates of current bollywoos, who like to believe that todays bolly is the best ever in indian cinema, must learn mallayalam and about kerala culture to realise this.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Dec 21 1:54:58 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  nadodikaathu. . . . 80s and 90s malayalam cinema stands tall in indian mainstream movie history.

  Seen that flick back in 80s and loved it. And I kinda agree with you there, Plum, but that was the period I was watching some of the notable Malayalam films, as opposed to almost none 2000 onwards.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 21 4:55:50 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Advocates of current bollywoos, who like to believe that todays bolly is the best ever in indian cinema, must learn mallayalam and about kerala culture to realise this.

  
  
  yaaru? ranganaar sonnadha?
  
  glorious past is a great feeling to have but its what we do in present defines us.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 21 11:53:36 2009.

  20 mins of CHINNA GOUNDER in Podhigai:
  
  eppa ellam sun / raj / k / kalaignar TV ellam pidikkadha padangal pOduranO.. andha nerathula kai vidadhadhu Podhigai than
  
  I saw:
  
  * character establish panra panchayath scene
  
  * adhu mudinchu.. title song... ooru kannu -- dhristi poosanikka suththuranga.. appadiye VK oru walk... adhu mudinju.. music varudhu.. ivaru vandiyila yErraru... correct'ah "chinna Gounder" nu pEru podumpodhu ivaru oru kumbidu ... perfect syncing Raaja voice
  
  * appuram.. ivarudaya male / iLavatta rasigargalukku... fight... fightukku munnadi punch dialogue... indha thunda eduthu appadi vechEnna.. pattaya kelappapOrennu artham
  
  R V Uthayakumar ennA oru flow..
  
  He takes the credits for Lyrics+screenplay+Direction
  
  Story - R Selvaraj
  
  Dialogue --- yarunnu marandhuttEna
  
  Comedy part dialogues -- pAvalar Maindhan
  
  
  To note:
  1. Chief assistant director: V C Ramani ----- > he is none other than Babu sivan (hunter), Barathan (ATM), Perarasu .. ivangaloda BOSS -- Dharani
  
  2. Asst directer: "seyyar" Ravi -- later directed HonestRaj.. which had cinematography by Ravi K Chandran
  now that Ravi is doing TV serials
  
  ==============================================
  CG'la irundhu K TV shift aana... Thiruda Thiruda.... andha villain'ai engeyo partha madhiri irukkenu partha... ada namma Sakkarai Kavunder / Jindha --- meesai illama... avlo onnum rasikkira madhiri illai.. moonji + acting
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 21 11:56:58 2009.

  punch dialogue... indha thunda eduthu appadi vechEnna.. pattaya kelappapOrennu artham
  
  The first ever punch dialogue from Captain to be twisted & turned for mimicry / comedy
  
  ------------------------------------
  2. Asst directer: "seyyar" Ravi -- later directed HonestRaj.. which had cinematography by Ravi K Chandran now that Ravi is doing TV serials
  
  --- meant to say.. seyyar Ravi is in serials
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 12:13:23 2009.

  If we are getting philosophical about time...try this:
  In the vast expanse of the fourth dimension that is time, past, present and future lose their identity and fuse into one.One man's future is another's ruined past and so on..
  
  Only the present matters is a very simplistic view to take.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 21 12:17:12 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Only the present matters is a very simplistic view to take.

  
  
  rombha nallA pesureenga thambi ... <sanmu>
  
  idhai appadiye ella threadlayum post pannidunga
  
  <HR.. unmayana Raaaaaaaaaaaj Honest Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaj>
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 12:20:25 2009.

  And yeah it is baradwaj who keeps bringing in " a never before seen in indian cinema" angle while discussing the likes of kaadhal indru netru and endrum vidai perugiraen endru solladhae
  I am not convinced by his "don't understand malayalam so won't watch even acclaimed mallu movies without subtitles". Apdiye nammallam porakkaache indhi kathukiittu porandhom paarunga.
  It seems to me a defence mechanism a la annalakshmi w.r.t virumandi
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Dec 21 13:03:15 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  nadodikaathu. Considering that the remake, kadhanayagan is feted by us, the original stands out for outgrowing what essentially could have fizzled out as a collection of set-pieces, and 'jokes', which is exactly what the remake is. You don't realise it until you see the original. Don't get me wrong, it is not a masterpiece nor is kadhanayagan unentertaining. Nevertheless, the nuances and characterisation captured in malayalam has clearly been translated into generic pandiarajan character

  
  
  reminds me of watching Gandhi nagar second street recently..I am a big fan of anna nagar mudhal theru - satyaraj and jakaraj comedy.
  
  But Gandhinagar nagar second street looked better though Im cant understand malayalam fully...especially the supporting cast.Not just in this movie,the supporting cast is always too good in malayalam movies.
  
  srinivasan - was never a big fan of him before...but after a couple of movies
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 21 13:09:48 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Only the present matters is a very simplistic view to take.

  
  
  "past glory" is the last resort of defense to counter the superior rivals of "present".
  
  

  Quote:

  don't understand malayalam so won't watch even acclaimed mallu movies without subtitles".

  
  
  i completely empathise with rangan. its a big turn off, i donno why - maybe its a language very close to tamil and its our frustration of not being able to comprehend it .....i have watched some 10 mallu movies - all mohanlal ones and jsut for him.....but yes, i wouldnt proclaim like him bollywood is best ever because im really not insecure abt todays' bollywood - i know where they are
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 13:17:21 2009.

  Maddy, I dont think Baradwaj is into "proclaiming Bolly today is best". He isnt bothered. But what annoys me is that his phrases and writing tends to say "indian cinema" when he means "hindi and tamil and a few assorted festival movies in Malayalam, Marathi and Bengali" which is his exposure to the general term "Indian movies"
  Especially, when he talks about mainstream of which he has exposure to only Hindi and Tamil in a mode where he can understand the underlying popular culture and nuances. It might just be that he understands his frame of reference and means only "hindi and tamil" when he says "indian" but that is so very insular - a la americans calling their national championship as world series etc.
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 13:21:26 2009.

  And as regards past and present, I am not envious of current day bollywood - for the resources and opportunity they have, they churn out much less than what they should in terms of quality.
  What I am saying is more on the lines of Malayalam Mainstream of 80s and 90s is really the best, unless I have missed out similar periods in the Marathi, Bhojpuri, Punjabi or Oriyan movie history, which looks unlikely
  It really is, and only people who have exposure to it can understand this.
  Infact, what myseelf and Vivs experienced is a good litmus test - watch all those originals of tamil movies which we have found different or good or excellent.
  I never realised the script of Aavarampoo for what it is until I watched Thakara. epdi paarthAlum, they are the best. Kamal 70's-la malayalathukku pOnavar inge vandhirukkavE kUdadhu
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 21 13:24:31 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  Maddy, I dont think Baradwaj is into "proclaiming Bolly today is best". He isnt bothered. But what annoys me is that his phrases and writing tends to say "indian cinema" when he means "hindi and tamil and a few assorted festival movies in Malayalam, Marathi and Bengali" which is his exposure to the general term "Indian movies" Especially, when he talks about mainstream of which he has exposure to only Hindi and Tamil in a mode where he can understand the underlying popular culture and nuances. It might just be that he understands his frame of reference and means only "hindi and tamil" when he says "indian" but that is so very insular - a la americans calling their national championship as world series etc.

  
  
  Mr.Rangan is a very intelligent man - im sure he knows the difference. maybe his usage of "indian cinema" is a colloquial one just like we club all photocopies as "Xerox"
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 13:25:58 2009.

  Maddy, thats exactly what it is. As a long time reader and fan, I know that. Still it annoys me
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Dec 21 13:27:39 2009.

  BTW, avarukku "intelligent man"-nu oru promotion vandhirukku pOla (after the recent Rahman article? )
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 21 13:42:09 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  BTW, avarukku "intelligent man"-nu oru promotion vandhirukku pOla (after the recent Rahman article? )

  
  
  //ayyo, adhu adhukku mela koduram........i didnt like it at all - nothing controversial but not interesting too.........i feel he has "overwritten" on rahman - ippa ellam, verum kaathu dhaan varudhu //
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Dec 21 13:47:06 2009.

  Plum wrote:

  I never realised the script of Aavarampoo for what it is until I watched Thakara.

  
  
  Wonder why bharathan changed the climax - the original climax would had been much better given the film is already not-so-mainstream in Tamilcinema...and also tamil people accept such climaxes from the non-formula movies.
  
  nasser accepting sakkara is veeran,heroine waving her thavani and all
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Dec 21 14:50:27 2009.

  Reg. Suhasini in Vanaprastham.
  
  Well cast as the female royalist of exuberant pride, indulgence & reverence allowed by her monarchical liberties to - Art and its Artist. Fully fits the character graph, her gratification has a tinge of sadism and arrogance that fits her to the T. It's just in her make-up and demeanor.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Dec 21 14:52:44 2009.

  Of course, I see Shobana being the only other choice for the role.
  
  

• From: interz on Tue Dec 22 17:52:00 2009.

  Vettaikaran - Kooddai Vidduttaan, Thaanga Mudiyala
  
  A very lame movie, this has to be the worst Vijay movie i seen in my life.
  
  This movie is predictable from start to end. My expectations for Sura has decresed after watching this movie.
  
  About performances. Vijay dance well, fight well, acting ok, but he have to choose scripts and let the story be the hero.
  
  Anushka, very much wasted.
  
  Comedy... only manobala made me laugh.
  
  Songs, already big hits, but it annoys me the way they picturized Chinna Thamarai... Ethukku "Oru Koodai Sunligt" pola oru get up??
  
  My conclusion, event ardent Vijay fans should avoid watch this movie.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Tue Dec 22 23:05:31 2009.

  avatar- loved it
  
  

• From: Plum on Wed Dec 23 9:14:52 2009.

  Vinodayathra
  =========
  Kerala is its own world. Unless the Kerala I have in my mind - formed solely from watching their movies from the 80's; have never set foot on their land - is a clever, believable fictional world created by a succession of conniving film-makers, their filmdom captures the times, the people, the land, its traditions, customs, practices, quirks and cliches so very well.
  
  This is but an average - maybe above-average considering the last 10 years - flick by Keralan standards. Yet, they bring before my eyes a set of people, events and landscape that seems so uniquely rooted in their land.
  
  Sathyan Anthikkad has his formula, and this one doesnt even pretend to move away from it; there are the inserted songs; Yet, I came away charmed.
  
  Meera Jasmine makes one regret that she ever had to come by to Kodambakkam. Why couldnt she have just stayed there? Ofcourse, this movie is no vehicle for her supreme talent but the nuanced expressions that cross her face in every frame are the markings of a fine actress, who, unfortunately, had to be lost to the trappings of Kollywood.
  
  And then there is Raja...thats just not done, Sir. Kaiyetha Kombathu melts one, as it captures the bonding between a withering Murali and a brave, strong daughter Meera, who gamely shoulders the burden of her troubled family, including an errant elder sister. And then there is the lush, romantic mandharapoo...you just soak in these, and then there's the BGM. King is a sobriquet that doesnt even begin to capture this artist's mastery over this medium...
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Dec 23 13:06:07 2009.

  The great buck howard
  *ing John Malkovich with Colin Hanks son of Tom Hanks.
  Very charming character driven movie with awesome comic moments. John Malkovich is a genius and simply shines up this little film with his presence. Hollywood bramandathaimattume paathu soodu potukaradha vida indha maadhiri chinna chinna padangalai emulate pannaa Kozhi wood uruppadum.
  
  

• From: interz on Thu Dec 24 13:09:20 2009.

  Kandha Kooddai - Old wine, but tastes good
  
  A story about teasing, love, hate and family values.
  
  What works for this movie is the comedy. Esp during 1st half. Must handshake those who writes dialogues for Santhaanam, extremely funny one liners.
  
  Nakul havent improved, but he delivers what is expected from him. He must try to improve the dance skills, not good.
  
  Poorna looks very sexy, and acting is good too.
  
  Songs are very poor. Its not a surprise Dhina fails to succed deliver. BGM is acceptable, suitable for B&C centre movie.
  
  It's a pleasure to watch this movie after the watching hidious Vettaikaran movie some days ago.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Dec 27 0:42:08 2009.

  3 Idiots 2nd time
  
  Avatar 2nd time
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Dec 27 1:10:10 2009.

  
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Dec 27 1:30:56 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  
  
  enna padam paathengannu sonna naangalum sirippom ?
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Dec 27 2:02:28 2009.

  for watching 3 Idiots and Avatar back to back, She was talking about it yesterday.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Dec 27 2:08:22 2009.

  kid-glove wrote:

  for watching 3 Idiots and Avatar back to back, She was talking about it yesterday.

  
  
  
  
  whatever
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Dec 27 3:23:28 2009.

  Watched Happy Days 4th time ...
  
  
  
  intha padatha Raja remake pannana nalla irrukum
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Dec 27 9:22:24 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  Watched Happy Days 4th time ... intha padatha Raja remake pannana nalla irrukum

  
  
  Grossly overrated imo for me, HD was just a time pass film
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Dec 27 9:23:35 2009.

  3 Idiots Madhavan and Aamir
  
  

• From: avven on Sun Dec 27 12:54:34 2009.

  Avatar
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 27 22:03:00 2009.

  vettaikaaran - though im used to such banal writing with threads/logic hanging loose, i didnt find the mass scene exciting as well...the buildup for any massy sequence is important and that was missing in the movie.....ex: the scene where vijay first appears as autodriver, it is a powerful sequence - but srinath reveals it before he comes and spoils the impact.....implicitness actually amplifies powerful sequences - but the directors are more worried if the implicitness would make it inaccessible for audience....anyways, it was dibarent experience alright
  
  Anushka - she looks huge for a girl and one side-face full of pimbles.....i found her very yuck in this movie
  
  songs were very good
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Sun Dec 27 23:45:11 2009.

  Mahen wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: Watched Happy Days 4th time ... intha padatha Raja remake pannana nalla irrukum Grossly overrated imo for me, HD was just a time pass film

  
  
  over rated
  
  last four days i watched it twice ... i love this movie just like that ...
  
  rajesh and appu
  
  tyson shravs
  
  chandu ... has he acted any other movie he is simply superb in this movie ...
  
  Tamanah - i felt this is her best so far ... last scene la chandu ah kooptu bike ride kootikitu poga sollara scene
  
  may be naan innum college days hangover la irukarathu nala pudikutho ennamo ...
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Mon Dec 28 9:42:14 2009.

  <Dig>
  Attn PR/Plum:
  Ottal la pakkathu table la 3 yung kalej gaels discussing about Avatar
  
  G1: We watched it in 2D, couldnt get tickets for 3D
  G2: Oh, i heard you must watch it in 3D
  G3: It's poosam... chi awesome in 2D only
  
  James Cameron, neenga pannadhellam waste sir
  </Dig>
  
  

• From: 19thmay on Mon Dec 28 10:47:46 2009.

  Vettaikaran - One of the worst movie of Vijay. Its a better version of Aadhi. Seriously can't believe that this his 49th movie.
  
  Its a combination of Dhill,Saamy and his own Bagavathy. Very predictable and at one point of time I don't know whats happening in the movie. Including Villain everyone is talking a lot.
  
  Only plus is the comedy. Waste of money and time!
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 28 10:59:31 2009.

  19thmay wrote:

  Vettaikaran - One of the worst movie of Vijay. Its a better version of Aadhi. Seriously can't believe that this his 49th movie.

  
  
  it looks like the young brigade is enjoying a lot but the fans from poove unakkaga, kadhalukku mariyadhai, t m t times are not liking much
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Dec 28 11:30:47 2009.

  19thmay wrote:

  Vettaikaran - One of the worst movie of Vijay. Its a better version of Aadhi. Seriously can't believe that this his 49th movie.

  
  
  idha neenga vettaikaran threadla post panlame
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Dec 28 11:33:02 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  19thmay wrote: Vettaikaran - One of the worst movie of Vijay. Its a better version of Aadhi. Seriously can't believe that this his 49th movie. idha neenga vettaikaran threadla post panlame

  
  
  pudichavanga ange post panranga.. pudikkadhavanga inge panrangannu ninaikkiren..
  
  btw.. avaru vijay rasigarnu palarukku theriyadhunnu ninaikkiren
  
  

• From: 19thmay on Tue Dec 29 0:11:16 2009.

  Vivs,
  
  Angga neraya per padatha enjoy panraanga(?), naan poi -ve review pottu edhukku avungala trouble pannanum thaan,
  
  Honest,
  
  I like his PU, KM and TMT but still I liked him more in Ghilli. Even his Sivakasi was fairly good, but this movie is unbearable. He can give much better film than this.
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Tue Dec 29 0:45:44 2009.

  Actually Vijay failed to convert 19thmay kind of fans to his hardcore fans ...
  
  the fact is he lost considerable amount of his "before Thirumalai" fans ...
  
  otherwise he uwd have bigger than now ... an offbeat movie once in a while wud bring back them
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Tue Dec 29 0:59:45 2009.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  <Dig> Attn PR/Plum: Ottal la pakkathu table la 3 yung kalej gaels discussing about Avatar G1: We watched it in 2D, couldnt get tickets for 3D G2: Oh, i heard you must watch it in 3D G3: It's poosam... chi awesome in 2D only James Cameron, neenga pannadhellam waste sir </Dig>

  
  
  
  
  

• From: avven on Tue Dec 29 3:16:07 2009.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  Actually Vijay failed to convert 19thmay kind of fans to his hardcore fans ... the fact is he lost considerable amount of his "before Thirumalai" fans ...

  
  
  appadiyellam illa Vinod...kocham peru vijay padam release appo vanthu padam nallavei illanu sollilitu ..intha padathuku vijay oda previous padamei nalla iruthuchi solluvanga..but antha padam release appo aatheiyum worst movienu solluvanga..so aathanala neenga aavaruku fans kammi aayutanganu neneikanthinga ..yennathan differrent padam nadichallum aantha kootam eppavumei appadithan sollikitu irukum aatheiyellam kandukathinga
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Tue Dec 29 6:54:23 2009.

  avven wrote:

  VinodKumar's wrote: Actually Vijay failed to convert 19thmay kind of fans to his hardcore fans ... the fact is he lost considerable amount of his "before Thirumalai" fans ... appadiyellam illa Vinod...kocham peru vijay padam release appo vanthu padam nallavei illanu sollilitu ..intha padathuku vijay oda previous padamei nalla iruthuchi solluvanga..but antha padam release appo aatheiyum worst movienu solluvanga

  
  
  exact opposite to vijay fansla?...mundhina padatha vida romba nalla irukkunu solveenga...
  
  

• From: avven on Tue Dec 29 7:42:47 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  exact opposite to vijay fansla?...mundhina padatha vida romba nalla irukkunu solveenga...

  
  
  viva innum mokka podratha niruthiliya ..aathuvum vinodtuku address pannatha vachi mokka podriyei pa mudiyala
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Tue Dec 29 7:50:06 2009.

  avven wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: exact opposite to vijay fansla?...mundhina padatha vida romba nalla irukkunu solveenga... viva innum mokka podratha niruthiliya ..aathuvum vinodtuku address pannatha vachi mokka podriyei pa mudiyala

  
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Dec 29 10:18:58 2009.

  kandha kOttai - 1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam - but 2nd half marana kadi.
  
  heroine kaaga pala thadavai paarkkalaam
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Dec 29 10:23:30 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  avven wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: exact opposite to vijay fansla?...mundhina padatha vida romba nalla irukkunu solveenga... viva innum mokka podratha niruthiliya ..aathuvum vinodtuku address pannatha vachi mokka podriyei pa mudiyala

  
  
  marana messageu
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Dec 29 10:32:07 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam

  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Dec 29 10:33:02 2009.

  P_R wrote:

  NOV wrote: 1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam

  I was cornered, I was helpless
  
  

• From: Appu s on Tue Dec 29 10:34:09 2009.

  first half online layavathu paakanum
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Dec 29 12:10:27 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  P_R wrote: NOV wrote: 1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam I was cornered, I was helpless

  
  
  PR... nan thread open pannadhu thappillai nu thOnudhu
  
  aduthu endha padathula irukkan Sandhanam ini ivanudaya career'ai follow pannanum, atleast for posting in his thread
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Dec 29 12:16:06 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  NOV wrote: P_R wrote: NOV wrote: 1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam I was cornered, I was helpless PR... nan thread open pannadhu thappillai nu thOnudhu aduthu endha padathula irukkan Sandhanam ini ivanudaya career'ai follow pannanum, atleast for posting in his thread

  
  
  endhiran-la nadikirar haanast..
  
  shankar moviesla comedy kandippa pickup aagum.. appuram paarunga.. jr gounder range-eh vera..
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Dec 29 12:29:41 2009.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: NOV wrote: P_R wrote: NOV wrote: 1st half was okay - thanks to santhanam I was cornered, I was helpless PR... nan thread open pannadhu thappillai nu thOnudhu aduthu endha padathula irukkan Sandhanam ini ivanudaya career'ai follow pannanum, atleast for posting in his thread endhiran-la nadikirar haanast.. shankar moviesla comedy kandippa pickup aagum.. appuram paarunga.. jr gounder range-eh vera..

  
  
  sariya nadikka varalai, dialogue modulation sari illi.. ec. etc. 'nu pala comments...
  
  but, payyam.. indha varusam sooper pick up...
  
  

• From: vithagan on Tue Dec 29 13:58:43 2009.

  Avatar @ IMAX 3D - Wonderful experience. Worth watching.
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Dec 30 4:17:03 2009.

  Pokkisham ... if you have insomnia...
  
  chEraa! Enpaa ippadi paduththara
  you should have been a filmmaker 30 years ago....
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Dec 30 4:18:07 2009.

  Did anyone see Cheran's new getup
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Dec 30 10:29:18 2009.

  avatar 3D oru 100 eyesaavadhu venum adhai fullaa experience panna..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Dec 30 10:39:15 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Did anyone see Cheran's new getup

  
  Link pOdunga. kadEsiyA Kamal prOkrAm-la paathadhu. Kazhuthula ipod thonga vittuttu periya meesai vechittu alainjaaru
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Dec 30 11:56:52 2009.

  
  
  

• From: avven on Wed Dec 30 11:59:22 2009.

  aahaa haaaa aavarathu aadutha padam enna
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Wed Dec 30 11:59:56 2009.

  en veettu fish tank clean panna varravan maadhiri irukkaaru...
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Dec 30 12:01:13 2009.

  pakkathula yaaru? Sorry office-la sariyaa pArkka mudiyalai
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Dec 30 12:01:44 2009.

  Padmapriya. Irumbukkottai Murattu Singam audio launch.
  
  

• From: avven on Wed Dec 30 12:01:58 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  pakkathula yaaru? Sorry office-la sariyaa pArkka mudiyalai

  
  
  balachandar
  
  

• From: Sourav on Wed Dec 30 12:02:09 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  pakkathula yaaru? Sorry office-la sariyaa pArkka mudiyalai

  K.Balachanader...
  
  

• From: avven on Wed Dec 30 12:03:15 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Padmapriya. Irumbukkottai Murattu Singam audio launch.

  
  
  ithuthan aavrudaiya aadutha padamma
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Dec 30 12:04:37 2009.

  No, Simbudevan (munnal assistant of Cheran) is the director.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Wed Dec 30 12:06:14 2009.

  Sourav wrote:

  Nerd wrote: pakkathula yaaru? Sorry office-la sariyaa pArkka mudiyalai K.Balachanader...

  
  
  balachander yEn thunda katitu vandhirukaru?
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Dec 31 6:50:30 2009.

  kaadhala kaadhala. Karthik music-ku enna koraichal? Kaasu mele is one of the most sophisticated dappanguthus ever scored, his legendary father notwithstanding. Madonna is probably the only song that doesnt pass muster in the movie. I really cant understand why he was said to have squandered his chances in big films offered to him.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Thu Dec 31 7:03:39 2009.

  kAthalA kAthalA wasn't really a marquee project. And the best song in that album is SaravaNabhavaguhavadivazhgA . Pedestrian pallavi but pristine ChraNams.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Dec 31 8:54:55 2009.

  Compli, yeah it is my favourite song in the movie, too, bolstered by the fact that I have mostly heard it in Telugu *itself*, where you had the additional bonus of SPB in top form, notwithstanding the fact that Kamal did a fabulous job in tamil himself. Nevertheless, delivering in a Kamal movie must count for something - it is hardly his fault that the movie had an average run.
  
  

• From: Plum on Thu Dec 31 8:56:10 2009.

  On awakening to BGM scores
  Reproducing my comment there:
  

  Plum wrote:

  I had gnanasnanam from GOD himself - with Agni Nakshatram, it was GOD who opened my eyes to background music, with that iconic clash scene between Prabhu and Karthik, when the former throws the latter out of his house when Karthik inappropriately barges into the grandma's funeral. One of the most memorable BGM scores of Raja - from the gritty and stylish trumpets to underscore Prabhu's fierce run-ins with Karthik to the intriguing strings to capture Sumitra's awkward run-ins with Jayachitra; to the mesmerising flute and a cliched veena as Thaarini runs up the hospital steps defying security to give the temple offering to Sumitra; to the definitive trumpets again to underscore the showdowns in the climax. The best part? I am writing this purely from my memory - and I am playing the BGM in detail in my mind - while the last time I actually caught the movie was more than 10 years ago.

  
  

• From: Prabo on Thu Dec 31 9:38:19 2009.

  Watched Vettaikaran
  
  1st Half - Fast Forward >>
  2nd Half - Shift + Del
  
  

• From: great on Fri Jan 1 7:11:47 2010.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  No, Simbudevan (munnal assistant of Cheran) is the director.

  
  
  simbudevan, shankar assistant illaya?
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Jan 1 13:02:58 2010.

  Just asking, didn't watch TV today... indha top 10 songs/films ellAm pOdalayA? enna Achu?
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Jan 1 13:08:32 2010.

  great wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: No, Simbudevan (munnal assistant of Cheran) is the director. simbudevan, shankar assistant illaya?

  
  
  He worked with both, it seems.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Fri Jan 1 14:56:08 2010.

  cheran
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Jan 2 12:58:29 2010.

  Was switching between channels. Caught a glimpse of a movie on Sirippoli channel. It is a dubbed malayalam movie starring Mohanlal and Ranjith (i think ).
  
  There comes a dialogue (not sure about the previous scene).
  
  x: ippa kooda Shankar roba'va vera edho padathulErndhu copy adikkuradha solluranga... adhellam nambittu irukka mudiyuma... ivvalavu yEn, namma maniratnam...
  Y: AM Ratham?
  X: illa mani ratnam.... Thalapathy padatha kooda Mahabarathatulerndhu suttu eduthadha thaan sonnanga.... adha pathi avar kavala pattara? padam vadhu hit aachulla...
  
  I was
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 3 8:03:52 2010.

  3 Idiots
  
  Hilarious at the same time conveying message like Munnabhai.. few characterisation similiar to the ones in Munnabhai.. But does not matter.. The movie is tooo good
  
  Aamir khan and bhomi Irani takes most of th honor and they did very well..
  
  Maddy is getting much more bigger role.. Slowly ippadiya main Hero level vanthiduvaarnu thoanuthu
  
  Must Watch i would say
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Jan 3 8:23:21 2010.

  1977 mokkai bin kodumai
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 3 8:24:48 2010.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  3 Idiots Hilarious at the same time conveying message like Munnabhai.. few characterisation similiar to the ones in Munnabhai.. But does not matter.. The movie is tooo good Aamir khan and bhomi Irani takes most of th honor and they did very well.. Maddy is getting much more bigger role.. Slowly ippadiya main Hero level vanthiduvaarnu thoanuthu Must Watch i would say

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 3 8:28:10 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  1977 mokkai bin kodumai

  
  
  Ippai patta padam ellaam paarkanumngra idea muthalla ungalukku eppadi varuthu anthalavukku vettiyaa neenga
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 3 8:30:02 2010.

  Maddy neenga padam paarthaachaa
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Jan 3 8:30:41 2010.

  TM, since it did reasonably well in Malaysia.. I was curious
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 3 8:34:37 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  TM, since it did reasonably well in Malaysia.. I was curious

  
  
  eththana thadava ungalukku sollratu, malaysia BO mattum vachchi oru mudivukku varaatheengannu
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Jan 3 8:36:31 2010.

  padaththa paaththa varuththam ennai vida ungalukku thaan adhigam pOla
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 3 8:37:55 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  padaththa paaththa varuththam ennai vida ungalukku thaan adhigam pOla

  
  
  pinna..intha maathiri super padam ellaam paarthu unga vayasu kuranjiduchunnaa
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 3 11:19:27 2010.

  Maddy's role in 3I - basically a "what a man" role. Even Sharman Joshi got a better role. Tamizhla maddy roleku sureshot candidate - Sriman.
  Did I see the same 3Idiots other hubbers have seen?
  (Half the "jokes" in the movie are related to "moothra visajan". Not that toilent humour is passe but avLO dhAnA?)
  
  Aamir Khan = muyachi nadippu
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 3 11:19:43 2010.

  Maddy's role in 3I - basically a "what a man" role. Even Sharman Joshi got a better role. Tamizhla maddy roleku sureshot candidate - Sriman.
  Did I see the same 3Idiots other hubbers have seen?
  (Half the "jokes" in the movie are related to "moothra visajan". Not that toilent humour is passe but avLO dhAnA?)
  
  Aamir Khan in this movie = muyarchi nadippu
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Jan 4 10:22:58 2010.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  3 Idiots Hilarious at the same time conveying message like Munnabhai.. few characterisation similiar to the ones in Munnabhai.. But does not matter.. The movie is tooo good Aamir khan and bhomi Irani takes most of th honor and they did very well.. Maddy is getting much more bigger role.. Slowly ippadiya main Hero level vanthiduvaarnu thoanuthu Must Watch i would say

  
  
  neengellam Hindi padam review pOdureenga.. kaalakkodumai
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Jan 4 10:23:20 2010.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Padmapriya. Irumbukkottai Murattu Singam audio launch.

  
  
  I think... cheran is that singam.. summa gambeerama irukkaru
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Jan 6 11:53:04 2010.

  ARUNDHATHEE
  
  * First 1/2 was good.. 2nd half predictable < good vs evil>
  * Amman kind of film
  * Anuskha was &
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Jan 8 11:58:08 2010.

  Makkal Thilagam MGR in 'Kalangarai viLakkam' , a movie with everlasting songs.
  
  

• From: avven on Fri Jan 8 12:07:49 2010.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: 3 Idiots neengellam Hindi padam review pOdureenga.. kaalakkodumai

  
  
  
  
  

• From: avven on Fri Jan 8 12:12:09 2010.

  AVATAR 3rd time enna oru padam
  
  

• From: omega on Mon Jan 11 10:30:03 2010.

  AVATAR in IMAX 3D - Unbelievable experience.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jan 11 10:34:30 2010.

  தளபதி
  
  

• From: vithagan on Mon Jan 11 12:56:38 2010.

  Avvai Shanmugi @ jaya Tv
  
  Ethanai thadavai paarthalum.. Can't stop laughing
  
  

• From: viraajan on Wed Jan 13 12:44:46 2010.

  Was on my way to chennai. They played Thalapathy in Bus
  
  What a movie. What a BGM!
  
  Thalaivar
  
  Mamooty
  
  Outstanding Background score!
  
  The scene where Rajni comes to Arvindsamy house and says "neenga romba nallavanga.... etc etc".
  
  IR beautifully plays Chinna Thaayaval music and Rajni-Collector clash music to convey Rajni's bro feeling and Collector's anger respectively! What an idea boss!
  
  PS: idhai ellam inga alasi aarainjurupeenga already... but enakku ippa thaan chance kedaichadhu
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Jan 13 14:04:17 2010.

  Varanam Aayiram ...
  
  convinced that this is peter stuff.. ithu maathi "wannabe"-class movie ellaam class, classic-nu sollrathunaallathaan, vettaikkaaran maathiri mass movies varuthu..
  
  same way with music also.. peter albums-a class, different arrangement, aarkaadu-station-nu sollrathunaala thaan kuthu paatugal irukku..
  
  entha function ponaalum peter thaan.. dressing ellaam appidyea western party culture
  
  mothala intha petergala nirutha sollanum, apparam vijay-a nirutha sollalaam...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Jan 13 14:12:50 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  mothala intha petergala nirutha sollanum, apparam vijay-a nirutha sollalaam...

  
  
  and then solve world hunger problem??
  
  anban, u have been all over the place ever since VTV album has released......take a chill pill - relax...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Jan 13 14:15:38 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  aarkaadu-station-nu

  
  
  
  
  IR is the first tamil MD or for that matter indian MD who taught the importance of orchestration to tamilians/indians ......
  
  

• From: P_R on Wed Jan 13 14:19:02 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  aarkaadu-station

  
  
  B(K) oru ooraiyE kedutha paavam ungaLai sErum.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Wed Jan 13 14:23:15 2010.

  
  
  Amazing review, Anbar avargale
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Jan 13 14:41:51 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  Anban wrote: mothala intha petergala nirutha sollanum, apparam vijay-a nirutha sollalaam... and then solve world hunger problem?? anban, u have been all over the place ever since VTV album has released......take a chill pill - relax...

  maddy, since VTV album release naan enna post pannaalum athu rahman-reference thedureenga..
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Jan 13 14:44:08 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Anban wrote: aarkaadu-station B(K) oru ooraiyE kedutha paavam ungaLai sErum.

  hehe.. chummaa.. naan ellathukkum ippidi elutha maatten.. but paattu ethukku eraichalaa irukkunu ketta, unakku orchestration theriyaathaanu kekkuraainga ...
  
  saar... naan aarkaadu-station pathi kekkalaa, paattu-la noise varuthunnu thaane sonnen...
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Jan 13 14:45:14 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Amazing review, Anbar avargale

  mikka nandri.. but naan Vaaranayim Aayiram album peter-nu solla varala. its a great one..
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Wed Jan 13 14:53:14 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  aarkaadu-station-nu

  
  
  ippa thaan bulb erinjudhu
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Wed Jan 13 15:34:47 2010.

  VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes.
  
  

• From: great on Wed Jan 13 15:38:27 2010.

  Ramakrishna wrote:

  VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes.

  
  
  Daily ketka aarambichitiya
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Wed Jan 13 15:53:31 2010.

  great wrote:

  Ramakrishna wrote: VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes. Daily ketka aarambichitiya

  
  
  Yaa.. because veettula oru chinna paappa irukkuthu...loudspeaker la pottu vitta athu clap thattinu kidakkkum
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed Jan 13 18:43:34 2010.

  Ramakrishna wrote:

  great wrote: Ramakrishna wrote: VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes. Daily ketka aarambichitiya Yaa.. because veettula oru chinna paappa irukkuthu...loudspeaker la pottu vitta athu clap thattinu kidakkkum

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed Jan 13 21:10:33 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  Varanam Aayiram ... convinced that this is peter stuff.. ithu maathi "wannabe"-class movie ellaam class, classic-nu sollrathunaallathaan, vettaikkaaran maathiri mass movies varuthu.. same way with music also.. peter albums-a class, different arrangement, aarkaadu-station-nu sollrathunaala thaan kuthu paatugal irukku.. entha function ponaalum peter thaan.. dressing ellaam appidyea western party culture mothala intha petergala nirutha sollanum, apparam vijay-a nirutha sollalaam...

  
  
  http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3578/lkzyz89efmclapu.gif
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jan 14 0:46:31 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  Varanam Aayiram ... convinced that this is peter stuff.. ithu maathi "wannabe"-class movie ellaam class, classic-nu sollrathunaallathaan, vettaikkaaran maathiri mass movies varuthu.. same way with music also.. peter albums-a class, different arrangement, aarkaadu-station-nu sollrathunaala thaan kuthu paatugal irukku.. entha function ponaalum peter thaan.. dressing ellaam appidyea western party culture mothala intha petergala nirutha sollanum, apparam vijay-a nirutha sollalaam...

  
  
  intha mAthiri padangaLa repeat viewing paNRatha neenga niRuthunga mudhalla - appuRam mathatha pAthukalAm. Hubla mattumthAn oru padatha pidikkala pidikkalannu thitti thitti - maRupadiyum maRupadiyum pAkkuRa koottatha pAthirukkEn. So funny.
  
  Anyway, since VTV album got released, the guns were first turned towards ARR, then VM and now GVM. Aduthathu yAru SibuvA ?
  
  

• From: Scale on Thu Jan 14 1:15:36 2010.

  joe wrote:

  தளபதி

  
  
  I was hugely disappointed with that re-watch. solra maathiri vonnume illai poorly written except Raaja's music withstands time. Whereas, Nayagan is a truly timeless classic! Worth every watch.
  
  Joe, NOM!
  
  

• From: complicateur on Thu Jan 14 10:50:34 2010.

  vEttaikkAran. Somewhere in there there is a film waiting to be salvaged. Neraya timing miss. I have to say though, I dont believe anyone commits to the typical masala format as much as Vijay does.
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jan 14 11:12:10 2010.

  Scale wrote:

  joe wrote: தளபதி I was hugely disappointed with that re-watch. solra maathiri vonnume illai poorly written except Raaja's music withstands time.

  
  
  I like 'Thalapathi' Rajini ..Moreover Mamooty is there "கட்டி வையேண்டா" .
  
  

• From: app_engine on Thu Jan 14 11:30:51 2010.

  One of the strongest points of nAyakan that was lacking in dhaLapathi was the "place of occurence of the story". With the setting of Mumbai, the historicity and associated bundling of emotions was quite easy.
  
  OTOH, where does the other film happen? One can say anywhere - or possibly in a southern TN city, like Tuticorin, but the lack of clarity in that aspect plucked away a lot of emotions that could have easily been drawn. Thus, despite scintillating performance by all concerned (e.g. IR's songs were superior to nAyakan's IMO), the movie can only get a second prize in comparison with nAyakan.
  
  I don't know whether MR recognized this as a reason for relatively less success / acclaim of dhaLapathi. May be so, considering at least some of his later works had strong locational setups.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Jan 15 8:36:06 2010.

  Watching Santhosh Subramaniyam
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Jan 15 10:28:12 2010.

  Ramakrishna wrote:

  VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes.

  
  
  Mundhinam parthene was terrible even when it released.
  
  Yethi yethi had stupid synthesizer sounds which spoiled the early 90s timeline. Even without such references, it is again, Nursery rhymey.
  
  AdiyE kolluthE is a vekkangetta peechangai lift, which I don't wish to comment on. And as usual suroothi was giving it an unwanted harsh tone to it.
  
  Oh Shanthi was better than Adiye kolluthey, apart from that it has nothing much to say.
  
  Nenjukkul Peidhidum was good, just because of Hariharan/Prasanna. Guitar riff-ku kOsam oru pAttu pudikaNnuma?
  
  Anal mele was very good, again because of the vocals/lyrics. By vocals, I don't mean the tune or the rythm in the song or even the interludes(utter nonsense, esp.) The impact Sudha Raghunathan created with her voice, like the longing of Aandal 'endha kARRin aLAvaLil malaridhazgaL virindhidumO' particularly having such a plastic composer at the helm.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Jan 15 10:29:35 2010.

  Last watched pErANmai.
  oru thadavai pArkalAm. 1st half was irritating. 2nd half.. effort was commendable. Dialogues were sharp in many places. Liked the way it ended, very much.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 15 11:49:54 2010.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Anal mele was very good, again because of the vocals/lyrics.

  
  
  song had breathtaking melody.......i bet its one of the most complex tunes of HJ till date.......charanams were pure bliss......infact, i like all songs of VA except for mundhinam paarthene......its melodically very strong album
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Jan 15 12:04:34 2010.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  AdiyE kolluthE is a vekkangetta peechangai lift, which I don't wish to comment on. And as usual suroothi was giving it an unwanted harsh tone to it.

  
  Rock, (or the watered down version of it, which this song is) warrants such harsh vocals
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Jan 15 12:08:22 2010.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3578/lkzyz89efmclapu.gif

  
  Yov, yengerndhu ya pidikkaringa idhellam
  
  

• From: Plum on Fri Jan 15 12:11:35 2010.

  suroothinnu venki sonnadhu namma deiva kuzhandhaiyA? Bala support paNNavunE dhAn purinjidhi!
  
  Btw, anul mElE pani thuLi is quite good. As maddy says, possibly seyaraasu's most complext tune. There is a lot of tunefulness in the charanam.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Jan 15 12:19:42 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Raikkonen wrote: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3578/lkzyz89efmclapu.gif Yov, yengerndhu ya pidikkaringa idhellam

  
  
  
  
  from a wrestling site.. (wrestlecrap.com ) facepalm/claps are from that site..
  
  gounder gif ellam my own sweat.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jan 15 12:27:12 2010.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Ramakrishna wrote: VA album was good to listen initially...Now it is like listening to nursery rhymes. Mundhinam parthene was terrible even when it released. Yethi yethi had stupid synthesizer sounds which spoiled the early 90s timeline. Even without such references, it is again, Nursery rhymey. AdiyE kolluthE is a vekkangetta peechangai lift, which I don't wish to comment on. And as usual suroothi was giving it an unwanted harsh tone to it. Oh Shanthi was better than Adiye kolluthey, apart from that it has nothing much to say. Nenjukkul Peidhidum was good, just because of Hariharan/Prasanna. Guitar riff-ku kOsam oru pAttu pudikaNnuma? Anal mele was very good, again because of the vocals/lyrics. By vocals, I don't mean the tune or the rythm in the song or even the interludes(utter nonsense, esp.) The impact Sudha Raghunathan created with her voice, like the longing of Aandal 'endha kARRin aLAvaLil malaridhazgaL virindhidumO' particularly having such a plastic composer at the helm.

  
  
  yabbA ivvaLavu kObamA
  
  Anjala song'a vittuteenga. For me first comes - munthinam pArthEnE (Naresh Ayyar nallA paadi iruppAr), then Anjala athukkappuRamthAn other numbers. overall a good album IMO.
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Jan 15 12:36:01 2010.

  Yeah, enakkum Anjala song pidikkum. Though i share the opinion on HJ's songs in general (mostly simple tunes, lifting etc), HJ and VA album remba kadumaya saadappadudhu nu nenaikkaren
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 15 12:48:15 2010.

  but success of VA has spoiled HJ in one way.....he has lost interest in whatever arrangment/orchestration skills he had and concentrating on melody more now......AYan, Aadhavan were very flimsy - more like SAR ...........yuvan, rahman paattu kettu dhaan kaadhu fill pannikkanum
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Jan 15 12:49:38 2010.

  VA is one of the best albums in Tamil in the last few years.
  IMO the weakest song is yEththi yEththi - and my principal grouse against that too is that the terrible lyrics by NaaMu - and even that is highly listenable.
  
  I know I am just repeating myself. Andha sidelErndhu repeatumbOdhu inge repeatA vENdiya nirbandham.
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Fri Jan 15 12:52:51 2010.

  Raikkonen wrote:

  Bala (Karthik) wrote: Raikkonen wrote: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3578/lkzyz89efmclapu.gif Yov, yengerndhu ya pidikkaringa idhellam from a wrestling site.. (wrestlecrap.com ) facepalm/claps are from that site.. gounder gif ellam my own sweat. :lol:

  
  
  that was great!
  
  I see such gifs in Arsenal-mania.com. The british love to take the piss. I'm not sure of our sensitive hubbers reactions, adhunala post panradhu illa.
  
  

• From: venkkiram on Fri Jan 15 13:00:05 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  VA is one of the best albums in Tamil in the last few years.

  
  
  இதை வழிமொழிய நான் எப்போதும் துணையா இருக்கேன். கவலையே படாதிங்க.
  
  VA படப் பாடல்களில் அது சரியில்லை, இது சரியில்லை என அவற்றை ரசித்து கேட்டவர்கள், கேட்டுக்கொண்டிருப்பவர்கள் அனைவரிடமும் இவர்கள் எடுத்துரைக்க ஆரம்பித்தால், அதற்கே பல யுகங்கள் ஆகும்.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 15 13:00:22 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  IMO the weakest song is yEththi yEththi - and my principal grouse against that too is that the terrible lyrics by NaaMu - and even that is highly listenable.

  
  Ha! One of my favourites in the album.
  
  A gentle reminder to all lyricals: Lyrics kEkkavE kUdAdhunga.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Fri Jan 15 13:00:25 2010.

  <diggity> kid..
  
  i love the facepalm ones.. we need those here sometimes
  
  <end diggity>
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Jan 15 13:40:26 2010.

  equanimus wrote:

  P_R wrote: IMO the weakest song is yEththi yEththi - and my principal grouse against that too is that the terrible lyrics by NaaMu - and even that is highly listenable. Ha! One of my favourites in the album.

  
  
  
  

  equanimus wrote:

  A gentle reminder to all lyricals: Lyrics kEkkavE kUdAdhunga.

  
  
  irundhaalum oru doubt: "yengalukku 10 mani, alimony"?? Was it meant to be alibi? Appadi paathaalum edhukku alibi?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jan 15 13:47:20 2010.

  [quote="Bala (Karthik)"]

  equanimus wrote:

  P_R wrote: IMO the weakest song is yEththi yEththi - and my principal grouse against that too is that the terrible lyrics by NaaMu - and even that is highly listenable. Ha! One of my favourites in the album. equanimus wrote: A gentle reminder to all lyricals: Lyrics kEkkavE kUdAdhunga. irundhaalum oru doubt: "yengalukku 10 mani, alimony"?? Was it meant to be alibi? Appadi paathaalum edhukku alibi?

  
  
  early morning'a irukkumO - have never listened this song fully .
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 15 13:55:31 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  irundhaalum oru doubt: "yengalukku 10 mani, alimony"?? Was it meant to be alibi? Appadi paathaalum edhukku alibi?

  
  
  engalakku early morning 10 mani.....
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Fri Jan 15 13:56:06 2010.

  Oh, early morning a thaan yen kaadhula appadi paanju vizhundhirukko!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 15 13:58:08 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Oh, early morning a thaan yen kaadhula appadi paanju vizhundhirukko!

  
  
  can never forget ur "iam back, iam back=ambe ambe"
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Jan 15 14:25:43 2010.

  Light house uyarathaiyum enga louu letter thaandum
  
  
  has made me disown Naamu
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 15 15:26:47 2010.

  Scale wrote:

  joe wrote: தளபதி I was hugely disappointed with that re-watch. solra maathiri vonnume illai poorly written except Raaja's music withstands time. Whereas, Nayagan is a truly timeless classic! Worth every watch. Joe, NOM!

  
  
  visual references were well planned - I wouldnt say poorly written - thats very harsh - I read an interview during thalabadhi days where Mani says that he wrote most of the lines on the set (which is quite unusual for him). What you are not comfortable with is this aspect - the conversations in the film were not well constructed, while the visuals for them were on par with Parinda and the performances too. One reason why mani never ventured into that aspect again... BTW who is dialogue writer for Asokhavanam?
  As far as Raaja is concerned, the dialogues are not his input, characters, and rudimentary idea of script is enough for him to create and he does it with his usual ease. I was remarking to a friend of mine - a hard core Kamal fan at the time of release, while Guna is blessed with Balakumaran's superb dialogues, Thalabadhi is looking for similar pen. I guess even decades after - this is indeed the case.
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri Jan 15 20:38:13 2010.

  I think Suhasini writes the tamil dialogues for Raavan.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Jan 16 0:50:57 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  Bala (Karthik) wrote: Oh, early morning a thaan yen kaadhula appadi paanju vizhundhirukko! can never forget ur "iam back, iam back=ambe ambe"

  
  
  Not only that:
  
  Hasili fisili rasappodi
  
  Aayla aayla adi 'aarya mAdha'
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Jan 16 0:59:17 2010.

  AhA, indha sectionlayum B(K)-kku oru thread aaramikkaNum pOlirukkE!
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Jan 16 11:32:39 2010.

  viraajan wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Bala (Karthik) wrote: Oh, early morning a thaan yen kaadhula appadi paanju vizhundhirukko! can never forget ur "iam back, iam back=ambe ambe" Not only that: Hasili fisili rasappodi Aayla aayla adi 'aarya mAdha'

  
  
  aaryamaala?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Jan 16 12:04:40 2010.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  viraajan wrote: MADDY wrote: Bala (Karthik) wrote: Oh, early morning a thaan yen kaadhula appadi paanju vizhundhirukko! can never forget ur "iam back, iam back=ambe ambe" Not only that: Hasili fisili rasappodi Aayla aayla adi 'aarya mAdha' aaryamaala?

  
  
  yeah. from dol dol. He thought it was Arya mAdha
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Jan 16 12:57:22 2010.

  udhiri pookkaL. A movie like this wasnt made before it, nor after. The best ever tamil movie.
  All I can write is "EndA pAthomnu irukku".
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sat Jan 16 13:45:37 2010.

  It is one of the best Tamil movies ever made.
  <Spoilers ahead>
  The ending is really defining moment of Mahendran's craft. The mis-en-scene and bgm in parallel. Enough words have been said before. Some more poetic. But I'd do my own. Letting the antagonist slowly bid adieu to his kids while a melancholic tune is played and then as he goes through the procession, it turns a revolt - unsympathetic percussion and high-strung violin strokes. The camera cuts to different faces including the teary kids and revolting group stopped from saving him. As he discards into the rapids, the nature had symbolically dissolved its impurity. Raasa, of course, aptly goes for aerophonic instrument to shrill a cry or two, descending to tranquility. Followed by beats with a departing flute note, as one final adieu paid, with Visuals suggesting the nature itself had seen past the departed. Cutback to the melancholic motif as the remnants, the kids, tread down the banks. So poetic.
  </Spoiler above>
  
  I do see why Tamil filmmakers and audience have only regressed since then. I don't see such a poetic sequence, let alone a full feature, made in vicinity of future.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 17 2:20:49 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  udhiri pookkaL. A movie like this wasnt made before it, nor after. The best ever tamil movie. All I can write is "EndA pAthomnu irukku".

  
  Hmm.....beckett-A azhudhadhai padichchEn
  
  I watched it long back and found it good. All time great-nu ellAm solradhu , if my memory serves me right, has kinda stumped me. My strongest memory is the acting being edgy. oru vELai, vERa yEdhAchum padam paarththuttEnO. Tops the mujst-revisit list.
  
  Anyway, for film to make you weep and all you are someone who has given and kept.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Jan 17 2:27:42 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: udhiri pookkaL. A movie like this wasnt made before it, nor after. The best ever tamil movie. All I can write is "EndA pAthomnu irukku". Hmm.....beckett-A azhudhadhai padichchEn I watched it long back and found it good. All time great-nu ellAm solradhu , if my memory serves me right, has kinda stumped me. My strongest memory is the acting being edgy. oru vELai, vERa yEdhAchum padam paarththuttEnO. Tops the mujst-revisit list. Anyway, for film to make you weep and all you are someone who has given and kept.

  
  
  Vijayan's performance could be termed as one of the best(atleast in terms of subtlety) in Tamil cinema - from whatever I remember.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Jan 17 2:40:36 2010.

  It was actually ChAruhAsan that delivered my favorite performance in UP. Maybe it was because I had seen Jai Hind just prior to watching UP.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 17 2:51:10 2010.

  complicateur wrote:

  Maybe it was because I had seen Jai Hind just prior to watching UP.

  
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 17 2:52:19 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: udhiri pookkaL. A movie like this wasnt made before it, nor after. The best ever tamil movie. All I can write is "EndA pAthomnu irukku". Hmm.....beckett-A azhudhadhai padichchEn I watched it long back and found it good. All time great-nu ellAm solradhu , if my memory serves me right, has kinda stumped me. My strongest memory is the acting being edgy. oru vELai, vERa yEdhAchum padam paarththuttEnO. Tops the mujst-revisit list. Anyway, for film to make you weep and all you are someone who has given and kept.

  
  
  apdi illai - it is not the...for want of a better comparison...pasa malar kind of weepie. Not the "sad", "sogam" kind of azhugai.
  My first such moment came at the start of Azhagiya Kanne which is just Ashwini taking the kudam to go out and seeing the children innocent in their play, just smiling.
  And then Jai wrote about Vijayan's one human moment with the children.
  It's difficult to explain - I cant write much more - anubavikkaNum.
  
  DISCLAIMER: I dont know much about weld cinema, kattai allen, 'writing', screenplay, technique etc.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 17 3:00:50 2010.

  complicateur wrote:

  It was actually ChAruhAsan that delivered my favorite performance in UP. Maybe it was because I had seen Jai Hind just prior to watching UP.

  
  
  I wasnt thinking about performances at all. It just didnt matter, or did it? It had Sundar in a romantic role and Bhupathi remember? These are just people you are watching - there was no necessity for much acting in the movie, and I dont think anybody has tried much, except the barber, who has one of the few trite moments in the movie. ("nEram varattum, neram varattum-nu andhammA sonnadhu ipdiyA andha nEram varaNum")
  
  chAruhAsan was far from his ulagam urundai mode.
  (P.S: BGM thEvai illainnu solravanga kandippA pArka vEndiya padam )
  
  I think the movie was able to explore 'relationships', which is Mahendran's forte. Vijayan isnt like the big bad pannaiyAr; yes, he is dominant, but there is a "shakti ka santoolan" in the village; his power is not of money or muscle; it is so delicate that with one act, he irrevocably loses that enormous power he held over the villagers' minds. The way he deals with Sundar and forces him to admit that he'll not pursue shenbagam anymore is one of my favourite scenes.
  
  Mahendran isnt 'pursuing artistic excellence' here at all. adhuvA varudhu dhAn, seriously.
  I still maintain there hasnt been a better film in Tamil Cinema.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 17 3:13:34 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  Mahendran isnt 'pursuing artistic excellence' here at all. adhuvA varudhu dhAn, seriously.

  
  AhA ! adi madiyiliyE kai vaikkudhE....indha padaththai innoru trip paarthE aagaNum.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 17 3:19:48 2010.

  P_R, maybe give it a few years until you are married, and say, with a child or two...
  (no rational reasoning for this...just thONithu)
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Jan 17 3:22:35 2010.

  Preferably with a beautiful sister-in-law?
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Jan 17 3:24:18 2010.

  
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 17 3:29:54 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Preferably with a beautiful sister-in-law?

  
  
  (beautiful?)
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Jan 17 3:36:05 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  kid-glove wrote: Preferably with a beautiful sister-in-law? (beautiful?)

  
  
  Relatively. Or maybe I should have said "younger".
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 17 3:42:24 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  P_R, maybe give it a few years until you are married, and say, with a child or two...

  
  Oh ! appO adhisiyappiRavi paarkkaNumnA mudhalla saagaNumA ?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Jan 17 3:44:52 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: P_R, maybe give it a few years until you are married, and say, with a child or two... Oh ! appO adhisiyappiRavi paarkkaNumnA mudhalla saagaNumA ?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Plum on Sun Jan 17 3:46:26 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Plum wrote: P_R, maybe give it a few years until you are married, and say, with a child or two... Oh ! appO adhisiyappiRavi paarkkaNumnA mudhalla saagaNumA ?

  
  
  adhisayapiravi paarthalE sethuralAm!
  
  

• From: Bala (Karthik) on Sun Jan 17 4:09:34 2010.

  Parts of Anandha Thandavau(m)
  2nd Keroine: "Vaango, aathula ellarum wait pannindrukkaango"
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun Jan 17 4:15:26 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Parts of Anandha Thandavau(m) 2nd Keroine: "Vaango, aathula ellarum wait pannindrukkaango"

  
  
  
  nalla vELa sujAthA uyirOda illa..
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 17 4:16:18 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Parts of Anandha Thandavau(m) 2nd Keroine: "Vaango, aathula ellarum wait pannindrukkaango"

  
  oru rhymingukkAga sollirukkaangO.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sun Jan 17 4:29:49 2010.

  Sujatha aavi nalla aaviya irukkakondu, ivanga ellam thappichaanga....
  
  Worst screenplay and casting.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Jan 17 4:38:02 2010.

  Bala (Karthik) wrote:

  Parts of Anandha Thandavau(m) 2nd Keroine: "Vaango, aathula ellarum wait pannindrukkaango"

  
  
  gounder(somewhere in the screen) :adangooo!
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Sun Jan 17 4:42:00 2010.

  Paavam vittudungO...
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Jan 17 5:34:52 2010.

  7G -Rainbow Colony.
  
  - Suththama pidikkatha Hero ,Heroine irunthum samaLichu paarkka mudinjuthu for other aspects .
  
  Climax , Unusual-a mudikkalinna usual director -nnu peyar vanthidumnnu Selva as usual sorinjuttar.
  
  

• From: Scale on Sun Jan 17 7:25:44 2010.

  Deviated Thalapathys further discussion to MR Films
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Jan 17 9:08:13 2010.

  "Old Dogs" - not as funny as the trailer. some ha ha moments tho.
  god, robin williams is really old.
  
  btw, there is one scene "copied" from Shankar's Jeans.
  
  

• From: interz on Sun Jan 17 17:36:36 2010.

  12b - average but watchable
  
  Promising debut for Shaam. Jo and Simran very good. Vivek and Mayilsaamy very funny (esp the scene where the traffic is blocked cuz VIP was flying on aeroplane ROFL). Songs were great. Kudos to director Jeeva to make a youthful entertaining movie.
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Sun Jan 17 21:21:34 2010.

  Enga Veetu Pillai -
  
  Very entertaining. MGR total dibarance for two characters (three if you count one inside pendant(s).) Brisk pace, lot of funny sequences..
  
  Great entertainment.
  
  // i wish someone can remake this movie. there were talks to remake the original (ramudu bheemudu) with jr.ntr.. but it never materialized. my choice for the tamil remake... kandippa sollanuma??
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 3:36:03 2010.

  தம்பி
  
  இந்த நடிப்புக்கு 'இன்டெர்னல் லாஜிக்' கற்பித்தவங்களை என்ன செய்ய.....?
  
  கிட்டத்தட்ட முழு படமும் பார்த்தேன்...இப்பொ நான் என்ன செய்ய ?!
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Jan 18 3:37:05 2010.

  Enna seyya?
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Jan 18 3:41:43 2010.

  [/quote]
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 5:01:07 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  தம்பி இந்த நடிப்புக்கு 'இன்டெர்னல் லாஜிக்' கற்பித்தவங்களை என்ன செய்ய.....? கிட்டத்தட்ட முழு படமும் பார்த்தேன்...இப்பொ நான் என்ன செய்ய ?!

  
  
  vadivelu's sidekick in Winner: nInga mmmnu oru vaarthai sollunga baas, kezhavanai thookkidarEn :l-)
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jan 18 5:03:17 2010.

  AO
  http://cdjm.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post.html
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 5:12:47 2010.

  Maddy is the best thing about the film IMO. Lot of it was intrinsically generated expressions, some were eccentric and funny, but got a cult following. Surya-va anga ninaichu parunga. Intensity in "Ghajini"? (Hub Maddy-a kelunga, Aamir nalla panni irundhar adhey part-a) the worst part is bad writing and poor direction by Seeman. Lot was born out of undercooked philosophy and reading of Che's books. Well-intentioned man, but horrible filmmaker. I suggest for evidence - Seeman's masterpiece "Vazhthugal".
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 5:13:50 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Maddy is the best thing about the film IMO. Lot of it was intrinsically generated expressions, some were eccentric and funny, but got a cult following. Surya-va anga ninaichu parunga. Intensity in "Ghajini"? (Hub Maddy-a kelunga, Aamir nalla panni irundhar adhey part-a) the worst part is bad writing and poor direction by Seeman. Lot was born out of undercooked philosophy and reading of Che's books. Well-intentioned man, but horrible filmmaker. I suggest for evidence - Seeman's masterpiece "Vazhthugal".

  
  
  nIngaLumA?
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 5:21:20 2010.

  As the man in Scarface puts it, I always speaketh truth, even when I lie.
  
  But seriously, gimme Maddy's "Thambi" (admittedly a bit funny at places) over the wooden puppet-dog in "Ghajini" (it's not even funny but 'baed'). Of course, both have done better roles to display anger, intensity, etcetra. But in showing the ravaging animal inside, to the barest possible levels. I'd give Maddy a 'B+' and Surya 'C-'.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Jan 18 5:22:01 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  தம்பி இந்த நடிப்புக்கு 'இன்டெர்னல் லாஜிக்' கற்பித்தவங்களை என்ன செய்ய.....? கிட்டத்தட்ட முழு படமும் பார்த்தேன்...இப்பொ நான் என்ன செய்ய ?!

  
  Watched it for some minutes. indha muRaiyum oru muththAna scene: Madhavan kOvamA villainaik kolla avar vIttukkup pORAr. appO avanga familiyE sErndhu oru bittu pOttu Madhavanai kavukkaRAnga. Whatay scene 'yA. Madhavan veLiya kiLambum pOdhu, oru plastic bommai mEla kAl patturum. adhaik kEtta (kitchen pakkam pOyittu irukkuRa) villainOda wife takkunnu thirumbi, "pArththu!" appadimbAnga.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Jan 18 5:26:45 2010.

  Thilak Sollavendiyathellam solliyachu. Thambi is the most revisited film of Madhavan's (for me).
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 5:43:37 2010.

  So, that's all we have to say. Thambi Madhavan is better than Ghajni Surya?
  someone in some movie: idhula enna perumai?
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 6:19:43 2010.

  Straining not to react to the Ghajini comparisons as it will defocus the discussion. Just on absolute terms...'terrible' is the world.
  sari mudhal thadavai sikkitta..ippidi oru padam paNNa vENdiyadhA pOchchu.
  
  thiriniyum uyindhA eppidi ?
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 6:27:58 2010.

  Not necessarily Surya, Madhavan madhiri yevanala mudinja alavukku save panna mudiyum? It's a disastrous script, further worsened by a bad director.
  
  

• From: 19thmay on Mon Jan 18 6:30:21 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Not necessarily Surya, Madhavan madhiri yevanala mudinja alavukku save panna mudiyum? It's a disastrous script, further worsened by a bad director.

  
  
  Shave-nu padichiten!
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 6:30:27 2010.

  I have great difficulty in blame partitioning.
  But 'Madhavan save paNNaLai' is my uyaramaana abipraayam.
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 6:35:45 2010.

  Infact, with better acting, something could have been salvaged out of the movie. Maddy spoil paNNa oru script execution-ai eduthikittu adhai avar dhAn save paNNinArnA eppadi?
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 6:46:19 2010.

  19thmay wrote:

  kid-glove wrote: Not necessarily Surya, Madhavan madhiri yevanala mudinja alavukku save panna mudiyum? It's a disastrous script, further worsened by a bad director. Shave-nu padichiten!

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jan 18 6:49:10 2010.

  If Seeman would have acted in Thambi, Maddy would have been saved...
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jan 18 6:51:36 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Straining not to react to the Ghajini comparisons as it will defocus the discussion. Just on absolute terms...'terrible' is the world. sari mudhal thadavai sikkitta..ippidi oru padam paNNa vENdiyadhA pOchchu. thiriniyum uyindhA eppidi ?

  
  thamizh cinema- varalaatrai thirupi paarungal.
  
  Thambi had 100 runs I guess with the help of not-so-sure. So the combo had worked and they wanted to try again with a different feel good film subject..
  
  idhelamm erkanavae paathaachu.. the recent one being Rajini-PSVasu
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 9:11:49 2010.

  Aalavanthan wrote:

  Thambi had 100 runs I guess with the help of not-so-sure.

  
  
  Thambi was the most sentimental and emotionally whipped up rowdy movie of those times - it was a welcome change to see a message and some sort of sense knocked into this genre........hence the success......
  
  to me Groucho's deconstruction of thambi was good enough - a man who had lost all sense of balance..........it could seem funny for some........i find the same for their favorite performances
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 9:21:05 2010.

  Thambi maddy wasn't exactly funny. There are 3 performances that I can group together
  1. Thambivel
  2. Chandrmukhi
  3. Revathi in pudhumai penn(thee kuLikkaNumaa?)
  While 2, as a detractor of jyothika was joyful for me, 1 and 3 were plain embarassing
  There is a clear tutored performance - and one can even hear the start and cut of the director(figuratively). Turn of the neck in slow motion wiht roudram supposedly - natural? Epdi?
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jan 18 9:26:36 2010.

  Maddy wrote:

  it could seem funny for some........i find the same for their favorite performances

  
  enna diplomatic reply-aa .. seri vidunga ..
  
  Maddy mella paasatula neeenga apadi pesareenga.. but its an artificial anger that has been portrayed in this movie. I have appreciated the anger of Maddy in other movies, Aayidha ezhuthu for instance, you should see his face while trying to drop Sriman out of the balcony.. adhu kovam.
  
  Anger shown here, with his eyes and a non combinational words which has been used with installments dont go well together. Especially with the scene where the rowdies pull off a shawl from Pooja (guess) and then Maddy saying "ippa enna pannae" .. dialogues are too immature.. Still we are not talking about the movie on a whole, I am sticking myself to Maddy's performance. IMO, Seeman enna sonnaaro, adha appadiyae senja madhiri theriyudhu. There are better performances of Maddy Kannathil - adhuliyum oru silent anger irukum when his brother in law advices..
  
  I havent seen vazhthukal yet, and I would love to hear y'all commendations for this movie
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jan 18 9:29:07 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  2. Chandrmukhi

  
  
  I am to see Jothika in the first place.. Enna nadipu-nga adhu ... Body language - dialogue syncing - kangal - adhiilrukum my (mai) .
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 9:29:21 2010.

  Disagree with you Plum.
  It was hilarious.
  
  kurangu kuttikaraNam pOttA veDikkai, road-la kolai vizhundhaalum vEdikkai <punch>
  
  <bends picks up eyeball that has popped out and rolled onto the street and exits scene>
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 9:40:25 2010.

  should i take these as "acceptance of defeat" in "best actor" thread??
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 9:42:55 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  should i take these as "acceptance of defeat" in "best actor" thread??

  
  Why yA ?
  anga thaLabadhiya nikka vachchuttu dhaanE inga varOm.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 9:47:12 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  MADDY wrote: should i take these as "acceptance of defeat" in "best actor" thread?? Why yA ? anga thaLabadhiya nikka vachchuttu dhaanE inga varOm.

  
  
  
  
  illa adhuvum workout aagalaye-nnu frustrate aagura madhiri thonudhu
  
  

• From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jan 18 9:48:04 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  MADDY wrote: should i take these as "acceptance of defeat" in "best actor" thread?? Why yA ? anga thaLabadhiya nikka vachchuttu dhaanE inga varOm.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 9:50:01 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  illa adhuvum workout aagalaye-nnu frustrate aagura madhiri thonudhu

  ippo dhaan check paNNEn. over conpfdentA irundhuttOm.
  
  thErdhal mudiyattum. unga kazhuththula vizhara mudhal maalai enga maalaiyA dhaan irukkum.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 9:58:45 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  thErdhal mudiyattum. unga kazhuththula vizhara mudhal maalai enga maalaiyA dhaan irukkum.

  
  
  GM: edho pesunamnu pesaadha, nalla theliva pesu
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 10:12:01 2010.

  DeewAnE Hue Paagal -- something about mary rip-off
  
  In the end Shahid gets the girl (Rimi Sen) whom Akshay Kumar and many others try and charm...
  
  Akshay: <oozing milk of human kindness> jodi kitnA sundar hai nA ?
  Paresh Rawal and other losing contenders: kyA ...???
  
  Akshay: <extremely frustrated> arrE ladki nahin mili thO aisA hi kehnA padthA hai nA
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 10:33:21 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  DeewAnE Hue Paagal -- something about mary rip-off In the end Shahid gets the girl (Rimi Sen) whom Akshay Kumar and many others try and charm... Akshay: <oozing milk of human kindness> jodi kitnA sundar hai nA ? Paresh Rawal and other losing contenders: kyA ...??? Akshay: <extremely frustrated> arrE ladki nahin mili thO aisA hi kehnA padthA hai nA

  
  
  come to our section yaa.......94 pages-la irukku, 100 pages aaakki, gethhaa oru pudhu thread aarambikka venaama??
  
  //btw, saw the "idharkaaga dhaane aasai paattai balakumara dialogue in "ullam ketkume"........srinath says this to Arya after hugging pooja//
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Jan 18 10:44:46 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  //btw, saw the "idharkaaga dhaane aasai paattai balakumara dialogue in "ullam ketkume"........srinath says this to Arya after hugging pooja//

  
  
  oh appadiya.. adikkadi thevaipadum indha dialogue
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 10:50:56 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  MADDY wrote: should i take these as "acceptance of defeat" in "best actor" thread?? Why yA ? anga thaLabadhiya nikka vachchuttu dhaanE inga varOm.

  
  Andha threadla naan vote podallai.poda poradhillai.
  I am not in favour of ayan surya either. Maddy was bad in thambi. Idhai solravngallaam surya fans-A irukkanumnu avasiyam illaiye...
  
  (Nakkear:Sariyaana paattukku parisu sendral sandhosham etc)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 10:52:22 2010.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MADDY wrote: //btw, saw the "idharkaaga dhaane aasai paattai balakumara dialogue in "ullam ketkume"........srinath says this to Arya after hugging pooja// oh appadiya.. adikkadi thevaipadum indha dialogue

  
  
  irunga, namma movie archeologists P_R and Equa are tracing the source of this dialogue.......koodiya seekkiram, nalla seidhi-oda varuvaanga (or already vandhutaangala)
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Jan 18 11:11:04 2010.

  Maddy,
  LOL! Only PR. nAn kidaiyAdhu. nAn vaNiga ezhuththai vAsichchadhE illai. straight 'A sIriya ilakkiyangaLil iRangittEn.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 18 11:41:35 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Not necessarily Surya, Madhavan madhiri yevanala mudinja alavukku save panna mudiyum? It's a disastrous script, further worsened by a bad director.

  
  
  thambila maadhavan actinga vida script mosama?..periya vishayamthaan!!!
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Jan 18 12:14:13 2010.

  sillunu oru kaathal - ii half
  
  -- OK vathan irundhadhu
  
  1 scene:
  
  santhanam 2 surya: avan mookka odappEnu partha.. thongittu irundha bulppa yenda odacha <for surya's act>
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 18 12:19:29 2010.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  sillunu oru kaathal - ii half -- OK vathan irundhadhu 1 scene: santhanam 2 surya: avan mookka odappEnu partha.. thongittu irundha bulppa yenda odacha <for surya's act>

  
  
  
  kalaila nayar kadaila masal vada sapten..paruppu vegala!!
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 12:31:13 2010.

  Surya fans outdoing Obama:
  
  http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01386/obama-straw_1386774c.jpg
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 18 12:32:31 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Surya fans outdoing Obama: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01386/obama-straw_1386774c.jpg

  
  
  purilayepaa!
  
  kaamediyavadhu puriyara maadhiri adingalen!
  
  

• From: kid-glove on Mon Jan 18 12:36:21 2010.

  Vera enna purila. Sollunga. Ellathayum sethu clear panREn.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 18 12:40:57 2010.

  kid-glove wrote:

  Vera enna purila. Sollunga. Ellathayum sethu clear panREn.

  
  
  ada oru pechukku sonnenbaa!
  
  

• From: Plum on Mon Jan 18 12:43:02 2010.

  Vivs, adhu oNNUm illai Surya fans . adhavadhu, ninga ellAm, are getting consolation from Maddy's (allegedly) poor performance in Thambi apdinnu solraar!
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 18 12:44:54 2010.

  Plum wrote:

  Vivs, adhu oNNUm illai Surya fans . adhavadhu, ninga ellAm, are getting consolation from Maddy's (allegedly) poor performance in Thambi apdinnu solraar!

  
  
  ohO!
  
  edho konjam thorayama nadichirundha paravaala!!..oodu katti adicha pesama irukka mudiyuma?
  
  avaru padathula Odi neenga paakalaye?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 18 12:49:23 2010.

  equanimus wrote:

  Maddy, LOL! Only PR. nAn kidaiyAdhu. nAn vaNiga ezhuththai vAsichchadhE illai. straight 'A sIriya ilakkiyangaLil iRangittEn.

  
  
  but indha expedition-kku unga support thevai
  
  

• From: P_R on Mon Jan 18 13:34:17 2010.

  equanimus wrote:

  Maddy, LOL! Only PR. nAn kidaiyAdhu. nAn vaNiga ezhuththai vAsichchadhE illai. straight 'A sIriya ilakkiyangaLil iRangittEn.

  
  தி.ஜா எழுத்து வணிகம் என்று கூறுவதை வன்மையாக கண்டிக்கிறேன்.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Jan 18 14:26:16 2010.

  பாலகுமாரன் எழுதியது எதுவும் படித்ததில்லை 'ங்கறதைத் தான் அப்படி சுத்திச் சொன்னேன். தி.ஜாவை இல்லை. (மோகமுள் சில வருடங்களா வீட்ல இருக்கு, ஆனா இன்னும் படிக்கல. அது வேற விஷயம்.)
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Jan 18 14:52:12 2010.

  அதாவது, அந்த வரியை மோகமுள்ளுக்கு trace back செஞ்சது நீங்க தான்; எனக்குச் சுத்தமா தெரியாது, ஏன்னா நான் பாலகுமாரன் எல்லாம் படிச்சதில்லைன்னு சொன்னேன்.
  
  வணிக எழுத்து vs. சீரிய இலக்கியம்: ஜெயமோகன் imitation.
  
  

• From: P_R on Tue Jan 19 3:05:50 2010.

  நான் போஸ்டி முடிச்சதும் புரின்ச்ச்.
  
  புரிதல் என்பது இடுகைகளுக்கு இடையே நிகழ்வதுன்னு - அப்பிடிங்கறதை மைய கருத்தா வச்சு ஒரு கவிக்கரு யோசிச்சேன். இது வணிகமா, சீரிய(ஸ்) எழுத்தான்னு யோசிச்சதுல எதுகை சிக்கலை.
  
  

• From: interz on Tue Jan 19 18:05:46 2010.

  Kutti - Vettiya Iruntha Paaru kaiyai katti.
  
  A very average movie.
  
  It is a movie about two guys who falls in love with same girl, you never know which guy the girl is in love with till the end.
  
  Dhanush in his Ace. Shriya not imitating shakira? Good god. why did I watch the songs?? Only in tamil cinema the villain looks like hero, and the hero looks like size zero. The villain gang provided comedy, for a change srinath (dham dhoom, vettaikaran) is funny.
  
  Songs are big let down. Devisriprasad must find better telugu songs to copy into tamil versions!.
  
  

• From: Appu s on Wed Jan 20 1:30:49 2010.

  interz wrote:

  Kutti - Vettiya Iruntha Paaru kaiyai katti. !.

  
  
  
  

• From: avven on Wed Jan 20 1:34:15 2010.

  interz wrote:

  Kutti - Vettiya Iruntha Paaru kaiyai katti.

  
  
  T R maatiri pesuringa poonga
  
  

• From: viraajan on Wed Jan 20 9:32:48 2010.

  12 Angry Men!
  
  Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name
  
  

• From: interz on Wed Jan 20 9:39:49 2010.

  viraajan wrote:

  12 Angry Men! Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name

  
  
  Mounam Sammadham?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Wed Jan 20 9:43:50 2010.

  interz wrote:

  viraajan wrote: 12 Angry Men! Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name Mounam Sammadham?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Jan 20 10:17:56 2010.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: sillunu oru kaathal - ii half -- OK vathan irundhadhu 1 scene: santhanam 2 surya: avan mookka odappEnu partha.. thongittu irundha bulppa yenda odacha <for surya's act> kalaila nayar kadaila masal vada sapten..paruppu vegala!!

  
  
  Marriage registeration office:
  
  gentleman nagai kadai scene ulta..
  
  registrar: innum 10 nimisham wait pannunga
  surya: yean.. MLA varanuma
  
  santhanam: hotel gowrishankar'la masal dosai sapudra unakkE ivvalavu irundha.. angannan kadai biriyaniyai saapudra engalukku evvalavu irukkum <not exact> // story happens in coimbatore //
  
  (GM's sappathi ~ salna to the sEttu)
  
  

• From: Appu s on Wed Jan 20 10:28:27 2010.

  viraajan wrote:

  interz wrote: viraajan wrote: 12 Angry Men! Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name Mounam Sammadham?

  
  
  Good find VR BUt Mounam sammadham inspiration-nnu solla mudiyathu , may be few scenes....i can remember Kumari muthu part is inspired, other than that
  
  

• From: viraajan on Wed Jan 20 10:34:57 2010.

  Appu s wrote:

  viraajan wrote: interz wrote: viraajan wrote: 12 Angry Men! Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name Mounam Sammadham? Good find VR BUt Mounam sammadham inspiration-nnu solla mudiyathu , may be few scenes....i can remember Kumari muthu part is inspired, other than that

  
  
  Yeah yeah. Same same...
  
  I felt little more similarity other than than kumari muthu connection But i cant explain why i'm feeling so. Just oru feel irukku!
  
  But coincidence'avum irukkalam... Can't declare that it's inspired!
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Jan 21 9:15:57 2010.

  Mumbai Express
  
  

• From: Anban on Fri Jan 22 17:49:44 2010.

  Vennila kabadi kuzhu...
  
  one of the best movies in recent times.. its just superb except the weird climax..
  
  why such a climax??? how did it happen//?? i dont understand it
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Jan 22 18:16:00 2010.

  I'm of the few who felt that the VKK climax is absolutely normal and puts the movie at par with some nice MalayALam movies.
  
  Possibly I feel that way because of watching too many MalayaLam movies in the late 80's / 90's thALavattam, vandhanam, kireedam, ennennum kaNNEttande etc.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Jan 22 18:18:56 2010.

  It's not that you shouldn't have a negative ending. Just that, the climax didn't fit in with overall tone of the film, IMO.
  
  

• From: Anban on Fri Jan 22 18:25:40 2010.

  logic-e perusaa idikkira maathiri irukku.. its just stupid.. actually its comparable to veerasaami's climax..
  
  seththu tholainumeynu TR will die.. same here..
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Jan 22 18:38:45 2010.

  LM, Anban,
  
  Couple of the MalayALam movies I quoted were full fledged Priyadharshan-Mohanlal comedies with a sudden / "oru pakka" kathai kind of ending. So, I got seasoned already where sudden "tone change" doesn't make logical problems
  
  நீங்களெல்லாம் கொஞ்சம் மலையாளப்படம் பாத்து இன்னும் பக்குவப்பட வேண்டி இருக்கு
  
  

• From: Anban on Fri Jan 22 18:49:46 2010.

  naanga paakkaatha malayala padamaa..
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Jan 22 18:54:54 2010.

  app_engine wrote:

  நீங்களெல்லாம் கொஞ்சம் மலையாளப்படம் பாத்து இன்னும் பக்குவப்பட வேண்டி இருக்கு

  
  
  Appadingareenga? Naanum try pandren, aana DVDs kidaikkaradhu kashtama irukku.
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Fri Jan 22 18:54:58 2010.

  viraajan wrote:

  interz wrote: viraajan wrote: 12 Angry Men! Is the tamil movie starring mammooty, amala inspired from this one? I forgot that tamil movie's name Mounam Sammadham?

  
  
  pinnitael ponga ...
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sat Jan 23 2:27:54 2010.

  thEvar magan on Kalaignar TV. Intha padaththa eththana thadava pArthA bore adikkum-nu yArAvathu sollungappA!
  
  nAn thEN jaari. ennAla thAn ellA jaariyum
  
  

• From: equanimus on Sat Jan 23 5:09:24 2010.

  complicateur wrote:

  thEvar magan on Kalaignar TV. Intha padaththa eththana thadava pArthA bore adikkum-nu yArAvathu sollungappA!

  Yes, one of those perennially illuminating films. Even with this viewing (though I started watching the film well into the second half, from Gauthami's re-entry scene), I was able to better understand the film, i.e. some of the film's motifs became clearer to me.
  
  

• From: Plum on Sat Jan 23 5:16:54 2010.

  Equa, adhai konjam blog-garadhu?
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Jan 23 7:35:58 2010.

  Avatar
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Jan 24 1:05:11 2010.

  equanimus wrote:

  i.e. some of the film's motifs became clearer to me.

  
  This discussion might better be had in the intentional fallacy thread, but don't newer readings throw a wrench in P_R's "if I don't see it it must not be there" opinion?
  I watched the film from the second half as well this time and I came away with how deeply feminist thEvar Magan is (ironic considering the title). Not that I hadn't noticed the motif before just that the flavor was possibly completely cleansed off my palette previously as a result of savoring all seven courses.
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Jan 24 1:23:21 2010.

  complicateur wrote:

  This discussion might better be had in the intentional fallacy thread, but don't newer readings throw a wrench in P_R's "if I don't see it it must not be there" opinion?

  mudivE paNteengaLA ?
  
  Even if "it is not there" I am always interested in the perceptive readings. Demonstrable 'intention' makes the glow better - avvaLo dhaan.
  
  
  Crazyquote
  P1: உங்கப்பா கைரேகை பாப்பாரா ?
  மாது:நீங்க வேற...அது சரியாயிருந்தா அப்புறம் பூமத்திய ரேகை, கடக ரேகை எல்லாம் பாப்பார்*
  
  btw equa, the Mahanadhi kambi essay-vum seekiram ezhudhirunga. After we spoke I saw snatches of the film again. There is a generous glow of intention there, that makes it fascinatinger.
  
  <*note: Though I know Crazy did not 'intend' this out of context usage, I do enjoy it>
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sun Jan 24 1:26:09 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  mudivE paNteengaLA ?

  
  pinna sunday kArthAla ungaLa eppadi reply paNNa vekkurathu
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sun Jan 24 9:51:12 2010.

  Anban wrote:

  logic-e perusaa idikkira maathiri irukku.. its just stupid.. actually its comparable to veerasaami's climax.. seththu tholainumeynu TR will die.. same here..

  
  
  veerasamiyai muzhuvadhumaga partha nanban.. engal anban
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sun Jan 24 10:27:14 2010.

  Later parts of Mary Poppins - what a sweet movie!
  
  I think "feed the birds" is probably among the top 10 movie songs ever!
  
  And what a BGM!
  
  I saw some interesting comments in Disney's 2nd DVD sometime back which had "off-screen" stuff, like director's interview etc. This was supposed to be one of Walt Disney's all-time-fav scores and he often requested the composer to play "feed the birds" on piano - i.e. in his office - to rev-up his mood etc.
  
  Great song / movie!
  
  

• From: Anban on Sun Jan 24 13:05:09 2010.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Anban wrote: logic-e perusaa idikkira maathiri irukku.. its just stupid.. actually its comparable to veerasaami's climax.. seththu tholainumeynu TR will die.. same here.. veerasamiyai muzhuvadhumaga partha nanban.. engal anban

  theatre-la
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Mon Jan 25 3:48:20 2010.

  nANayam.
  sumAr. oru thadavai pArkalAm.
  
  

• From: Sid_316 on Mon Jan 25 5:10:57 2010.

  Nice avatar venki
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Tue Jan 26 3:05:39 2010.

  http://www.keetru.com/video/karna_motcham/s_ramakrishnan.php
  
  karna motcham - National award winner
  
  

• From: Plum on Tue Jan 26 10:21:44 2010.

  Oru Yatramozhi(Malayalam).
  Disappointed on multiple scores. Pratap Pothen, having assembled a coup of a cast and technicians(The greatest actor of 'em all, and then Mohanlal; then IR and MSV for singing), squanders all the goodies the worthies throw upon this worthless effort.
  * Very ordinary story, plot, screenplay and writing
  * An ordinary role that any Venu, Soman or Madhu could do in Malayalam has been given to the greatest actor of 'em all.(Ofcourse the whole point is that HE is doing the role!)
  * MSV singing under IR's baton, a lovely song, potentially can be picturised on the greatest actor of 'em all - and what does Pothen do? Omit it!
  * Another lovely song pon veyililE unpicturised
  * Mohanlal and Sivaji Ganesan salvage the wreck with some warm moments. I particulary had a smirk and a snug when Mohanlal, as per the story flow admittedly, says to the greatest actor of 'em all in the end even as the latter tries to convince Lal that he is indeed his father, reason being a particular contrivance in the screenplay:
  "I dont think I'd be that lucky to be your son".
  
  As Thevar Magan crossed my mind, I couldnt help interpret it beyond the screenplay "Yes, LalettA, great that you are, this particular honour(interpreting son as vaarisu) is reserved for another great actor"
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Jan 26 10:30:25 2010.

  yes, Mohanlal- enga veettu pillai
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jan 26 11:37:35 2010.

  NT used to call mohanlal as 'MappiLLai' ,since NT's close friend Balaji is maamanar of Mohanlal
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Jan 26 14:09:30 2010.

  joe wrote:

  NT used to call mohanlal as 'MappiLLai' ,since NT's close friend Balaji is maamanar of Mohanlal

  
  
  nice bit of info
  
  i just said enga veettu pillai becos of his phenomenal role as MGR in Iruvar
  
  

• From: app_engine on Tue Jan 26 20:29:33 2010.

  'Expelled - No intelligence allowed'
  
  WOW!
  
  A must-watch documentary for every "admirer" of Richard Dawkins
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Jan 26 22:21:31 2010.

  app_engine wrote:

  'Expelled - No intelligence allowed' WOW! A must-watch documentary for every "admirer" of Richard Dawkins

  What does the "WOW" actually mean here?
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Jan 26 23:26:11 2010.

  Has been a movie outing last week-end. "Avatar", "It's complicated". My wife and had a deal, if I could go with her for IC, she would go with me for Avatar. Fair enough!
  
  1. It's Complicated: It's an OK movie, nice, easy and simple. I'm a fan of Meryl Streep. And my wife is at least twice as much. Nice, simple movie. Was a good 15-20 min long towards the end. Felt it dragged a bit towards the end. Streep, as usual, is just brilliant. Steve Martin don't have much to do in this movie. He plays an uncharacteristically serious role with not even a hint of sarcasm.
  
  2. Avatar: One word - A W E S O M E. Saw it on IMAX. My wife is not a big fan of action and/or “heavy duty” visual effects movie. She is asking for a "repeat" for this one, I say. Hats off to James Cameroon! This is definitely a trend setter in Hollywood, the one that the likes of Speilberg/Emmerich would love to emulate.
  
  

• From: interz on Thu Feb 4 8:10:21 2010.

  Aayirathil Oruvan - 999il marainthu vittaan.
  
  This movie is about a guy and 2 girls seeking for the girls father, the father got lost searching for mysterious abt Chozha mannan... see the movie to find out rest..
  
  This is first time I write a movie without watching the full movie. This movie for me was sema mokkai.
  
  About performance.. Karthi convincing but not sympathic. Reema Sen and Andrea deserves oscar for their english verbal fight. Parthiban ???
  
  GVP ok BGM, songs very bad.
  
  Is Selvaraghavan a genius or a talentless fellow?? This movie doesnt answer the question for me.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Feb 4 8:26:17 2010.

  Sid_316 wrote:

  Nice avatar venki

  
  
  
  Watched Thamiz padam & Goa. reNdumE kAlEj pasanga gang-A pOi pArka vENdiyadhu. perusa solla onnumilla.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Feb 4 11:24:12 2010.

  12 Angry Men
  
  Shashawnk Redemption
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Feb 4 11:28:07 2010.

  viraajan wrote:

  12 Angry Men Shashawnk Redemption

  
  
  enna naansens idhu.
  12 Angry Men
  Shawshank Redemption
  
  BTW... move the discussion to World Movies forum please. inga edhukku post pannanum?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Feb 4 11:35:08 2010.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  nANayam. sumAr. oru thadavai pArkalAm.

  
  mokka padam baaas. Idha ellAm theater-la paathu veRuthuttEn..
  
  SPB Charan wants to do a Shankar but always gets it wrong. edhu qOlity, edhu wanna-be nu sariya puriyalai avarukku
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Feb 4 11:39:21 2010.

  Nerd wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: nANayam. sumAr. oru thadavai pArkalAm. mokka padam baaas. Idha ellAm theater-la paathu veRuthuttEn..

  
  ada.. vootla padam pOlAmnAnga.. ellArum pArkurApla ticket-um kedachadhu andha padam dhAn.. climax ellam tension aayiten.. first half oru sumaara irundhuchu
  
  

• From: irir123 on Thu Feb 4 11:42:08 2010.

  "The Devil who came on horseback"
  
  

• From: interz on Fri Feb 5 16:30:19 2010.

  Tamil Padam - ROFL 2 hours n 5 mins
  
  A movie about a boy who grows up and become a hero and wins the heroins heart and defeating villain
  
  This movie is the most funny movie in recent years. From the beginning till end there are many laughable moments. I dont wanna mention any of them, because its better to watch it yourself.
  
  About Performances Mirchi Siva superb job. Disha Pandey, didnt had much scope, but she is very cute throughout the movie. I usually praise MS Baskar, but in this movie I find Sanmughasundram and the Judge (dont know his name) very funny.
  
  Songs already popular, and omahazeeya is a visual treat too. Kannan did good job on songs and BGM. Cameraman also needs a big pad, lot of work to show the hero as powerful and grand.
  
  Well done CS Amudhan, a director to look out for coming years.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Feb 6 4:05:41 2010.

  Omkara . thamizh padangaL pAkkUratha niRuthidalAmpOla irukku intha mAthiri padangaL pAkkumpOthu. Bollywood is far ahead of us for sure.
  
  Vivek Oberoi
  
  Ajay Devgan the hero
  
  Saif Ali Khan
  
  AND...
  
  KARINA naan inimE Karina'va patthi entha vithamAna negative comments'um kodukka mAttEn'nu uRuthi mozhi eduthukittEn while watching the movie. What a performance !!
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sat Feb 6 4:08:19 2010.

  Roshan BOlly thread-la post pannunga
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Feb 6 4:12:19 2010.

  Appu s wrote:

  Roshan BOlly thread-la post pannunga

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sat Feb 6 4:15:15 2010.

  Roshan wrote:

  Appu s wrote: Roshan BOlly thread-la post pannunga

  
  
  http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=13890
  
  Athan world movies,indian movies kkulam thani thani section irukke.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Feb 6 4:44:20 2010.

  Appu s wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Appu s wrote: Roshan BOlly thread-la post pannunga http://mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=13890 Athan world movies,indian movies kkulam thani thani section irukke.

  
  
  I know and I dont visit those threads much. I always post here. thamiz padam mattumthAn inga post paNNanumnA naan varushathukku rendu postthAn paNNa mudiyum Besides this section is visited by many so it is better to post here about good movies we watch so it would benefit others too
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Sat Feb 6 15:04:37 2010.

  Roshan wrote:

  Omkara . thamizh padangaL pAkkUratha niRuthidalAmpOla irukku intha mAthiri padangaL pAkkumpOthu. Bollywood is far ahead of us for sure.

  
  Spot on, I say!
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Feb 6 23:14:31 2010.

  Asal
  
  Thamizh Padam
  
  Think I am watching too many tamil films.. def need a break
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Feb 7 2:44:39 2010.

  Roshan wrote:

  Omkara . thamizh padangaL pAkkUratha niRuthidalAmpOla irukku intha mAthiri padangaL pAkkumpOthu. Bollywood is far ahead of us for sure.

  
  
  idha sonna, parminder-nnu tag katti alaya vittruvaanga .......
  
  

  Quote:

  KARINA naan inimE Karina'va patthi entha vithamAna negative comments'um kodukka mAttEn'nu uRuthi mozhi eduthukittEn while watching the movie. What a performance !!

  
  
  no person in sane mind can appreciate anything that kareena does-nnu oru kottame irukku oorla ......i dont like her much but i dont agree to blanket rejection of her too......
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Feb 7 2:53:25 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Omkara . thamizh padangaL pAkkUratha niRuthidalAmpOla irukku intha mAthiri padangaL pAkkumpOthu. Bollywood is far ahead of us for sure. idha sonna, parminder-nnu tag katti alaya vittruvaanga ....... Quote: KARINA naan inimE Karina'va patthi entha vithamAna negative comments'um kodukka mAttEn'nu uRuthi mozhi eduthukittEn while watching the movie. What a performance !! no person in sane mind can appreciate anything that kareena does-nnu oru kottame irukku oorla ......i dont like her much but i dont agree to blanket rejection of her too......

  
  
  That was a splendid performance from start to end ! Chance'E illa. Karina rocked
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sun Feb 7 3:07:08 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  Asal Thamizh Padam Think I am watching too many tamil films.. def need a break

  
  
  Yaaru paaka sonnage? Watch only good ones then you'll appreciate tamil films
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 7 3:25:37 2010.

  yes Mahen. next stop VTV, nothing else in between.
  
  

• From: great on Sun Feb 7 9:14:07 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  yes Mahen. next stop VTV, nothing else in between.

  
  
  if i am not wrong , intha move 17th release aaguthula ?
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 7 9:18:22 2010.

  ok balaji, nothing else after that.
  except maybe avan ivan
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sun Feb 7 9:24:16 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  ok balaji, nothing else after that. except maybe avan ivan

  
  
  
  
  ஆரண்ய காண்டம் http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th20IzRY2r4
  
  

• From: sathya_1979 on Sun Feb 7 9:26:43 2010.

  Comment from youtube for this video:
  Thalaivaaaaaaaaa kalakikitaaa thalaivaa . Thalaivar sampath is back with a bang again in this new flick. Thalaivar valaga, ippadikku Sampath Rasigar Narpani Mandram, Reg no 459 , west Chennai .
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 7 9:27:25 2010.

  nice try appu...
  anyway, I will never be able to take sampath seriously again after seeing goa.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Feb 7 11:54:39 2010.

  "The Bone Collector" - Good one - nothing great though. I like watching Denzel Washington. He's interesting. Suspense'a kadaisi varai maintain paNNi irukkaanga.
  
  

• From: interz on Sun Feb 7 17:04:05 2010.

  GOA - a very good movie for timepass.
  
  Goa is about young men who want to get out of the village and enjoy freedom, their desire takes them to GOA, will they gain what they searched for... watch the movie to find out.
  
  I enjoyed watching this movie, lot of funny moments but also sentimental at times.
  
  About performance. Very good job from leading actors. Jai (when he gets slapped by Pia, and how he reacts ROFL, priceless). Premji funny as usual. Heroins done neat job, Pia and that white girl had much more scope than Sneha.
  
  Songs good too. I didnt like vaalibaa vaa vaa on audio, but in the movie its visualized good. YSR again succeeds on songs and bgm.
  
  Hats off to Venkat Prabhu to make a jollytrip flick.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Sun Feb 7 18:57:56 2010.

  Cradle will Rock - this 1999 classic uses traditional hollywood narrative to recount a very turbulent phase in United States history with some marked candidness. I particularly loved the performance of Emily Watson and Angus McFadyen as Orson Welles. A must see movie for all movie lovers.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Feb 8 10:40:33 2010.

  DEEPAVALI
  
  - oru murai parkkalam
  - pala murai songs ketkalam
  - Jeyam Ravi action avataram eduthurukkar... indha padam fights parunga. .ini evanavadhu vijayakanth kaathula paradhu parandhu arikkirar nu complaint panneenga
  
  - Bhavana .... ethanai se xies vandhalum.. homely always
  
  

• From: interz on Mon Feb 8 17:20:32 2010.

  Asal - You can watch it once, but only if u like action flicks taken in foerign locations.
  
  Asal is a story about a son who seeks revenge for the death of his father.
  
  About performance. Ajith acts well and fights well. Dance sequences are again his weakness. Heroins not much to say, Sameera Reddy acts good, Bhavana is only in movie to have 2 dance duets. Yugi Sethu provides some laughters. Villains slick and evil as seen in other tamil movies.
  
  Bharadhwaj rescues him self from total disaster with Tottadoing song. Prasanth did very good job considering its his debute as cameraman.
  
  Director Charan didnt do his job properly. There is something missing in this movie. Something that makes u sit on the edge of the seat by excitement. Better luck next time director.
  
  

• From: VinodKumar's on Mon Feb 8 17:49:42 2010.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  DEEPAVALI - oru murai parkkalam - pala murai songs ketkalam - Jeyam Ravi action avataram eduthurukkar... indha padam fights parunga. .ini evanavadhu vijayakanth kaathula paradhu parandhu arikkirar nu complaint panneenga - Bhavana .... ethanai se xies vandhalum.. homely always

  
  
  enna Ezhil dialogues lam eluthitu maanae thenae podurathuku bathila billu susi nu potutaar
  
  Jayam ravi enakku pudikaathu bhavanavum enakku pudikaathu so padamum pudikala
  
  

• From: sivank on Thu Feb 11 7:16:47 2010.

  I was privileged to see the film Anthimantharai from Bharathiraja. What a film. It really moved me a lot. I never thought Vijayakumar could act the way he acted in this film. Jayasudha as thangammaa was simply exceptional. AR Rahmans music and BGM is really breathtaking.
  
  Again many thanks to Bharathiraja for this film. As you can imagine this film was taken from the theatres after the first week itself.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Feb 11 7:31:25 2010.

  sivank wrote:

  I was privileged to see the film Anthimantharai from Bharathiraja. What a film. It really moved me a lot. I never thought Vijayakumar could act the way he acted in this film. Jayasudha as thangammaa was simply exceptional. AR Rahmans music and BGM is really breathtaking. Again many thanks to Bharathiraja for this film. As you can imagine this film was taken from the theatres after the first week itself.

  
  
  nijamaavaa
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Feb 11 7:48:21 2010.

  VinodKumar's wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: DEEPAVALI - oru murai parkkalam - pala murai songs ketkalam - Jeyam Ravi action avataram eduthurukkar... indha padam fights parunga. .ini evanavadhu vijayakanth kaathula paradhu parandhu arikkirar nu complaint panneenga - Bhavana .... ethanai se xies vandhalum.. homely always enna Ezhil dialogues lam eluthitu maanae thenae podurathuku bathila billu susi nu potutaar Jayam ravi enakku pudikaathu bhavanavum enakku pudikaathu so padamum pudikala

  
  
  
  jayam ravi calling bhavana...... "susiiii susiiiii" (manusan mookula pesurar)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 11 7:53:06 2010.

  sivank wrote:

  AR Rahmans music and BGM is really breathtaking.

  
  
  it fetched some national aaward for bharathiraja.......its soundtrack is largely unheard even by HC fans of ARR .......ARR did music for this movie completely free of charge
  
  

• From: sivank on Thu Feb 11 7:59:50 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  sivank wrote: AR Rahmans music and BGM is really breathtaking. it fetched some national aaward for bharathiraja.......its soundtrack is largely unheard even by HC fans of ARR .......ARR did music for this movie completely free of charge

  
  
  that is completely true. ARR did it complety free of charge and it is mentioned in wikipedia as this music is cult among ARR fans.
  
  wikipedia source
  The music is composed by A.R. Rahman. The film is relatively unknown and it had a brief run lasting for a week in major cinemas. This film is known for the background music by A.R. Rahman and had become a cult favourite.
  
  The soundtrack , composed by A.R. Rahman was a promotional audio for the film which had just a few snatches of these songs in the background. It has 4 songs and 3 instrumetal themes.
  Track # Song Singer(s)
  1 Sakhiye Nee Unnikrishnan
  2 Oru Naal Swarnalatha
  3 Vanajakshiro Unnikrishnan
  4 Pullai Thinnum Sumangali
  5 Theme Music 1 Instrumental
  6 Theme Music 2 Instrumental
  7 Theme Music 3 Instrumental
  
  The soundtrack became a cult favourite among fans of A.R. Rahman for its soul stirring music compositions.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Feb 11 9:46:11 2010.

  Agraharathil kazhudhai - National award winner.
  
  It challenged sakkaraikati when it comes to Acting and editing....shabbaaaa.I really understood the capacity of professional actors(few of them like omakuchi are there in the movie ).They stood out separately.
  
  story was quite interesting.But then the movie - looked like its just an attempt to make a movie.
  
  IMDB la oruthan comment potrundhan(there is just one comment recorded) - ngoyyalaa.
  
  Jeyamohan dint review the movie at all -in a discussion,mentioning that its not a movie at all -
  
  Director then and there shows something like "a graffiti on the wall reading a quote frm nieztche(it was shown 3-4 times in close ups for a long time)","a book of che guevera near the hero"....
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Feb 12 13:08:37 2010.

  Emperor of Style Nadigar Thilagam in 'Uththama Puthiran'
  
  Thanks Singapore Vasantham Central
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Feb 12 13:23:47 2010.

  Good Fellas
  
  

• From: Wibha on Fri Feb 12 13:46:12 2010.

  MADDY wrote:

  sivank wrote: AR Rahmans music and BGM is really breathtaking. it fetched some national aaward for bharathiraja.......its soundtrack is largely unheard even by HC fans of ARR .......ARR did music for this movie completely free of charge

  
  
  Never heard of this movie
  
  

• From: jinju on Sat Feb 13 1:23:41 2010.

  hey guys, watched My Name Is Khan yesterday FDFS...a totally different n gud film from the usual KJO/SRK films....i've put up the review in Indian Films section here...have a luk...n do watch the movie, its a gud one with a career-best performance from SRK!
  
  

• From: Rocky89 on Sat Feb 13 1:42:01 2010.

  Kutty and Naanayam in a single day.
  
  Satthiyama mudiyala
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sat Feb 13 14:18:13 2010.

  My name is Khan.. Ok film...good in parts..preachy in some parts..Overall average thaan..Major pluses were Ravi K Chandran's cinematography and SEL's music
  
  

• From: Appu s on Sat Feb 13 14:28:46 2010.

  Mahen wrote:

  My name is Khan.. Ok film...good in parts..preachy in some parts..Overall average thaan..Major pluses were Ravi K Chandran's cinematography and SEL's music

  
  mahen 5* star kodutha padatha, chappunnu ore vaarthaila mudichittenga
  
  

• From: Mahen on Sat Feb 13 14:30:37 2010.

  Appu s wrote:

  Mahen wrote: My name is Khan.. Ok film...good in parts..preachy in some parts..Overall average thaan..Major pluses were Ravi K Chandran's cinematography and SEL's music mahen 5* star kodutha padatha, chappunnu ore vaarthaila mudichittenga

  
  
  Reviews/critics have been too kind to this film...
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Feb 14 1:07:27 2010.

  Oru 30-40 mins of VettaiyAdu viLaiyAdu
  'shabbaaa.
  
  கௌதமருக்கு எழுத வர மாட்டேங்குது
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Feb 14 1:13:20 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Oru 30-40 mins of VettaiyAdu viLaiyAdu 'shabbaaa. கௌதமருக்கு எழுத வர மாட்டேங்குது

  
  
  idha neenga pala muRai sollitteenga appavum thirumba thirumba pAkkureenga
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Feb 14 1:16:26 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Oru 30-40 mins of VettaiyAdu viLaiyAdu 'shabbaaa. கௌதமருக்கு எழுத வர மாட்டேங்குது

  
  
  Thanks for reminding this scene and song.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n69QGusMUMs
  
  

• From: P_R on Sun Feb 14 1:18:47 2010.

  Office van recently upgraded with video perks.
  The writing naivete was just screaming out. Friday driver konjam vEgamA ottunadhaala veedu seekiram vandhuruchu.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 14 2:06:33 2010.

  Tamil Padam - First 30 mins funny ,rest maraNa mokkai
  
  Asal - better not to talk about this
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 14 10:35:25 2010.

  Joe, I posted this in this very thread last Sunday...

  NOV wrote:

  Asal Thamizh Padam Think I am watching too many tamil films.. def need a break

  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 14 12:23:59 2010.

  NOV wrote:

  Joe, I posted this in this very thread last Sunday... NOV wrote: Asal Thamizh Padam Think I am watching too many tamil films.. def need a break

  
  
  Neengalum 'one ticket ,two movies' deal-la rendu padamum patheengaLa?
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 14 21:53:00 2010.

  andha maadhiri deal ellaam inga illa Joe. rendu padamum veru veru cinema...
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Mon Feb 15 12:26:28 2010.

  ENGAL AASAN - konja neram
  
  AEGAN - First half. . until Siva police'ah
  
  
  renduthukkum periya vithyasam illai
  
  

• From: P_R on Fri Feb 19 3:37:26 2010.

  Documentary on the PWG on DD Bharati this morning.
  
  Somewhat dated. It was around the time a few years back when Varavara Rao and Gadar were appointed as the PW representatives to conduct talks with the Chandrababu Naidu government.
  
  The late human rights activists Balagopal, the founder of PW KondapaLLi Seetharamaiyya were also interviewed.
  
  The documentary focused on the foundations of the movement, the movement away from the Naxal strain to its current state.
  Balagopal was unequivocal in his critique of both state and PW violence. And at the same time argued how the government craftily focussed exclusively on the violence of PW while ignoring the social dimensions of the movement.
  
  The DGP of Andhra was also interviewed and proved to be an unapolegetic tough nut denying the existence of 'false encounters'. Civil Liberties Union interviews listed tonnes of cases of staged encounters of activists (farmers, teachers) and interviews of their family. Some really good editing - showing Balagopal's questions, cutting to DGP's counterpoint.
  
  Documentary ended with Gaddar singing some of Jana Natya Mandali songs and with the hopeful note that they have been invited for talks by the government.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Feb 19 9:37:01 2010.

  vEttaikkAran - worse than Adhi. Visay going from bad to worse.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Feb 19 9:50:55 2010.

  app_engine wrote:

  vEttaikkAran - worse than Adhi. Visay going from bad to worse.

  
  
  edit pannidunga... appuram edhavadhu nadakkum...
  seekiram seekiram
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Feb 19 11:20:32 2010.

  P_R wrote:

  Documentary on the PWG on DD Bharati this morning.

  
  First ever "Documentary" post in this thread
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Feb 19 11:41:37 2010.

  Nerd wrote:

  P_R wrote: Documentary on the PWG on DD Bharati this morning. First ever "Documentary" post in this thread

  
  
  இல்லீங்...நான் Expelled பத்தி சில நாள் முன்னாடி போஸ்ட் பண்ணினேன்
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Feb 19 11:45:20 2010.

  app_engine wrote:

  Nerd wrote: P_R wrote: Documentary on the PWG on DD Bharati this morning. First ever "Documentary" post in this thread இல்லீங்...நான் Expelled பத்தி சில நாள் முன்னாடி போஸ்ட் பண்ணினேன்

  
  
  well that is expelled it seems!
  
  

• From: Scale on Sat Feb 20 5:41:26 2010.

  I also posted ATM
  
  Latcho Drom - Documentary The journey of the Romany people told through musicians and dancers of India, Egypt, Turkey, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, France, and Spain No Dialoq's only music sample
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 20 5:45:40 2010.

  kaalaiyil dhinamum - New
  
  
  
  One of the very besht
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Feb 20 5:48:31 2010.

  கனிமுத்துப் பாப்பா
  
  எஸ்.பி.முத்துராமனின் முதல் படம் .ஸ்ரீதேவி குழைந்தை நட்சத்திரமாக.
  
  

• From: Scale on Sun Feb 21 1:32:13 2010.

  aayirathil zero's in CT - Copying thread
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 21 7:11:30 2010.

  pls start new thread.