Topic started by selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 9:59:18 2007.

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Friends,
Sometimes, I feel like discussing some movies with all our hubbers. But finding it very difficult to use the existing threads since they are all dedicated to stars, directors, actresses etc !

I am sure MANY OF US may feel discussing on the scenes of a movie, the greatness etc. One benefit is: We can gain lot of INFO on the movie from the veteran hubbers. IF we discuss the same in existing threads, everyone won't be interested to join and share their thoughts since all the threads are unique in their own way.

So, I thought of creating something in which many can share their thoughts on a movie.

Ofcourse, having considered the HUB HISTORY, We are not going to touch the movies that are releasing nowadays. It may bring something unwanted. so, We can discuss on Yesteryear classics.

One movie per week.

I expect we can have fruitful discussion by remembering the past parallely !
I wanted to start this one with a movie in mind. will post the title now !

Expecting that hubbers will be happy to share their thoughs. Ofcourse, this thread is an inspiration from similar threads !

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• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jan 30 10:12:24 2007.

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  good idea
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Jan 30 10:23:03 2007.

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  Ippadi aalalukku pesama irundha eppadi?? Ungalukku theriyadhadhilla. Yaaravadhu aarambinga
  (Panchayat dialogue)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:26:36 2007.

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  I think we can start with one of the movies which we like a lot ! This is one movie which I loved a lot !
  I thought of starting with one movies which I loved a lot. But changed my mind in the middle since it won't be a perfect "warm up" and should come in the middle.
  
  well, Shall we start with "AGNI NATCHATHIRAM" ?
  
  Hubbers can also suggest a few titles after this which will be included in the upcoming weeks.
  
  Thanks for the support friends ... esp AF machi and bala
  
  

• From: Saamy on Tue Jan 30 10:28:20 2007.

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  entha padatha pathi discuss panurathunu sandai venaam .. please
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:30:05 2007.

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  Kaarthi - POint taken ! I will be updating the title every week.
  Mostly it will be a different movie than the one we have been discussing all the time.
  I am thinking of choosing *different* movies everytime. Anyway, IF hubbers are interested to discuss on a movie, I will include the same here
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jan 30 10:30:37 2007.

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  The first thing which comes to my mind while thinking about Agni nakshathiram is..
  
  "En Pondaati Nigamaavae Oorukku Poitaa"
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Jan 30 10:31:51 2007.

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• From: kb on Tue Jan 30 10:32:33 2007.

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  i liked the BGM whenever karthik and prabhu meet.. sema hype ...
  
  raja rajaathi rajan intha raja
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:37:06 2007.

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  I think "AN" is one movie in which we can see EQUAL AMOUNT of SHARE for two popular Heroes. I loved this movie and the narration.
  Not to forget the songs from IR ! and the BGM whenever both the guys clash !
  
  I loved the scene in which Prabhu rescues his sister ! There are many GETHU scenes as well for both the stars. Kaarthik had some scenes with Nirosha which were extension of his "Mouna Raagam" character. The scenes b/w Nirosha - Kaarthik were
  
  One person whom we can never forget is CUTE Amala Her expressions and romance with Prabhu and Prabu's strict responses for the same
  
  One more scene is: The way prabu replies to his superior
  "Sir - Inimel unga Trainingu en kudumbatha use pannaatheenga" (not sure about the line though)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:37:50 2007.

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  NOV
  Thanks a lot for the correct updation !
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Jan 30 10:38:42 2007.

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  man this thread is forcing me to see the movie again. gonna search for it..
  
  

• From: Amarshiva on Tue Jan 30 10:39:05 2007.

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  Agni Natchiram: Good supporting cast from both karthik and prabhu.. they were the so called youth at that time. ofourse amala and nirosha.
  
  Perfect comedy from Janakaraj and VKR.
  
  Songs: Still rocks...
  
  Good direction: Manirathinam Music: IR
  
  It had almost the good combo for a blockbuster..
  
  my favourite scene: The train scene, where prabhu will save her chitti's daughter..
  
  

• From: Saamy on Tue Jan 30 10:42:18 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  The first thing which comes to my mind while thinking about Agni nakshathiram is.. "En Pondaati Nigamaavae Oorukku Poitaa"

  neenga en eppovum ippidiye reply pannureenga
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:42:22 2007.

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  what is the name of the "Villan" friends ? He is simple but yet rocks in the small share provided
  
  "eNNa thambi, thangachi kitta sollaliya.. .."
  "namma maLLika paapaavukku oru nalla varan vanthuchi athaan"
  etc
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jan 30 10:44:37 2007.

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  Amarshiva wrote:

  Perfect comedy from Janakaraj and VKR.

  
  
  Though the comedy was enjoyable, it was not at all needed for the movie. It is sad Mani also had to depend on separate comedy track in his earlier days
  
  One of my favourite scene in the movie was when prabhu arrests karthik by pulling his family as he dont have any other case against him
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jan 30 10:45:53 2007.

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  Saamy wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: The first thing which comes to my mind while thinking about Agni nakshathiram is.. "En Pondaati Nigamaavae Oorukku Poitaa" neenga en eppovum ippidiye reply pannureenga

  
  
  U will understand that after your marriage
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jan 30 10:46:32 2007.

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  Highlight of Agni Natchathiram ...
  
  Raja!
  Ilaya Raja!
  
  Prabhu & Karthick did extremely well .
  
  Prabhu was mejastic when saying "Arrest him Now"
  
  

• From: Saamy on Tue Jan 30 10:47:22 2007.

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  the music is chanceless. raaja rocks. what great songs. all were superb and they are still superb..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 10:48:47 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  U will understand that after your marriage

  
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jan 30 10:50:21 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  what is the name of the "Villan" friends ?=

  
  
  Is't he Anand theatre owner G.Umapathi?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jan 30 10:51:58 2007.

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  Joe and Saamy,
  
  There are several movies, without IR could have been incomplete. AN is one among them
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jan 30 11:00:25 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: what is the name of the "Villan" friends ?= Is't he Anand theatre owner G.Umapathi?

  
  
  He looks so natural in the movie.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jan 30 11:07:16 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: selvakumar wrote: what is the name of the "Villan" friends ?= Is't he Anand theatre owner G.Umapathi? He looks so natural in the movie.

  
  
  Yeah .He produced some movies too .He died few years back
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jan 30 11:08:20 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  There are several movies, without IR could have been incomplete. AN is one among them

  
  
  Exactly!
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Jan 30 11:25:23 2007.

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  God-level music by Raaja. The tabla was not used even in one song
  
  It had some great moments. The way Karthik says "Assshhhok Visssshhwanath" is funny
  
  Both Karthik and Prabhu were very convincing.
  
  It had a brand of cinematography (which was to follow in more movies) was irritating IMO.
  
  Above all, it had AMALA in it
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jan 30 11:33:15 2007.

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  AWESOME thread Selva! And nice pic for the week too ... AGNI NATCHATHIRAM is a class movie from a Classy Director!
  
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Jan 30 11:39:01 2007.

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  just noticed.. karthik veedu kaamikum bothu.. dull lighting and whenever prabhu veedu will be always bright..
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jan 30 11:44:15 2007.

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  Prabu : Arrest Him.....
  
  Karthik : Warrant Irukka.....Poi kondu vaanga ........Naanga inga than iruppom......
  
  Prabu : I said arrest him.......
  
  Karthik : Hello ...edhukagha arrest.......enna charge.......Warrant illama yaarayum arrest panna koodathu therium illai.......Poi anga sollungaa........
  
  Prabu gets down from the Police Jeep (IR BGM ROCKS HERE ....... )
  
  Prabu : Un per enna........
  
  Karthik : Has a lousy grin on his face.......
  
  Prabu : Ketta kelvikku bathil sollu.......Un peru enna........
  
  Karthik : Ashok........
  
  Prabu : Muzhu peru.......
  
  Karthik : Ashok Viswanath.....
  
  Prabu : Viswanath ngarathu.........?
  
  Karthik : Enga appa.......
  
  Prabu : AVar than unga appa nnu correctaa theriumaa
  
  Karthik : tries to hit him with his hand......prabu grabs him........
  
  Prabu : Arrestkku nee ketta karanam......duty la iruntha police officeraa adika paatathu...Arres him now....(IR BGM here again )
  
  Prabu : Yaravathu Jamin la ketta vidatheenga........en perae sollungaa
  
  Ngo****la Gethu scene.......
  

  Thirumaran wrote:

  One of my favourite scene in the movie was when prabhu arrests karthik by pulling his family as he dont have any other case against him

  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jan 30 11:50:49 2007.

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  kb wrote:

  man this thread is forcing me to see the movie again. gonna search for it..

  
  
  google videos la irukku kb
  
  The first few scenes are my favorite. Mani just needed 2 or 3 scenes to show how much hatred karthick had developed towards his father. The interview scene with VKR ( ) and the following scenes at his house where vk will be drinking were really good. Then when VK gets drunk, karthick would drop him home. These 3 scenes were so powerful that it makes you sit up and watch
  
  IR's music -- God level indeed
  
  PC -- Amazing. Except the climax which was pure irritation
  
  In fact, AN was a blockbuster for maNi
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Jan 30 11:56:16 2007.

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  karthik bail vida bothu..
  
  rendu peru sign pannuvaaanga..
  
  prabhus mother will sign fast in english.. she will write vishwanath completly
  karthik mother sill sign slowly in tamil.. she will write only V..
  
  
  
  

• From: Scale on Wed Jan 31 9:09:29 2007.

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  Anyone sold out for a frame to frame delightment during childhood? That is MR's -Agninatchathiram for me Iluthu pudichi Camerakullerndhu paakka vaipparu, kaadhula earphones maatina maadhiri aarvama ketka vaippaaru
  
  An example, look: "The tabla was not used even in one song "
  
  Really? Have you checked BGM's as well? Can it be an Obligation? An exclusive cadence score by the Maestro! No take back......
  
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Wed Jan 31 11:24:07 2007.

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  Scale wrote:

  Have you checked BGM's as well? Can it be an Obligation? An exclusive cadence score by the Maestro! No take back...... [/tscii]

  
  Nalla kelvi but i'm not sure about the BGM. Recent- a paathavanga sollalaam
  
  

• From: mrsrajan on Thu Feb 1 9:11:44 2007.

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  Tabla is used in BGMs in hospital scenes
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 1 9:47:40 2007.

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  I loved the songs. The starting of "Thoongaatha VizhigaL" rendu songs was amazing. Was that "Guitar" + "Violin"
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 1 10:02:42 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  I loved the songs. The starting of "Thoongaatha VizhigaL" rendu songs was amazing. Was that "Guitar" + "Violin"

  
  
  reg that instrument - it was Keyboard + violin......keyboard- must be Rahman's.....
  
  (its still widely speculated that ARR was the addnl programmer for raja's smash hits like Punnagai Mannan,Agni Natchitram,Anjali etc etc.....but cannot call it ARR's work, its 100% IR's......)
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Feb 1 10:06:13 2007.

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  Ninnukori varnam picturisation was spoilt in toto by Mani R. I think he had no clue on how to go about it.
  Absolutely messed up.
  Never expected this from Mani.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Feb 1 10:07:29 2007.

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  Ninnukori varnam picturisation was spoilt in toto by Mani R. I think he had no clue on how to go about it.
  Absolutely messed up.
  Never expected this from Mani.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun Feb 4 0:57:16 2007.

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  AGNI NATCHATRAM what a movie................
  
  kaarthik
  
  evergreen songs raja raaja di rajan
  
  amala anjali cute
  
  tara and nirosha r cool
  
  

• From: buddysathi on Sun Feb 4 1:03:46 2007.

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  There was a joke goin around when agni natchatram was running in theatres,, jus bcos of very different lightings and camerawork ( PC Sriram rt?)
  
  X: Ennangae kaila torch light-oda engae kelambiteenga?
  Y: Agni natchatram paaka thaan!
  
  

• From: kb on Sun Feb 4 1:45:19 2007.

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  mani vittu vaikalaiya
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue Feb 6 6:12:49 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: U will understand that after your marriage

  
  
  That's the wish of every man(Husband), Janakaraj was Hilarious at that scene
  
  Excellent Film, Greats stuff From Karthick, Prabhu , Dr.IR and Mani Ratnam
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 6 6:22:57 2007.

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  Is the week not completed
  
  So what is the next movie of the week..
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Tue Feb 6 6:27:10 2007.

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  Sivakaasi
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 6 6:29:18 2007.

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  Ramakrishna wrote:

  Sivakaasi

  
  
  For complete comedies we have different threads.
  
  
  By the way some old classics will be better option.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 6 6:40:11 2007.

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  Next Movie has been selected already. I will be posting the same shortly !
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 6 6:41:33 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  Ramakrishna wrote: Sivakaasi For complete comedies we have different threads. By the way some old classics will be better option.

  
  
  how abt 1000-athhil oruvan?? /.......MGR is one of the few things that we can agree upon, i guess....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 6 6:50:56 2007.

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  Maddy,
  Point taken. But at the sametime, we will be concentrating on rare classics and different movies that got released in the past ! For sometime, let us keep aside popular stars We will be updating this thread shortly with them.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 6 6:52:49 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  how abt 1000-athhil oruvan?? /.......MGR is one of the few things that we can agree upon, i guess....

  
  
  But we can discuss on movies other than MGR, Shivaji, Rajini and Kamal. As these stars have common thread and lots had been already discussed some other stars movies would do better in my opinion
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 6 7:01:01 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Maddy, Point taken. But at the sametime, we will be concentrating on rare classics and different movies that got released in the past ! For sometime, let us keep aside popular stars We will be updating this thread shortly with them.

  
  
  yes sir...
  
  (enna avtar change?? )
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 6 7:04:26 2007.

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  Thanks for sharing your comments on "Agni Natchathiram" friends.
  -------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  Here is the movie of this week.
  
  "Thooral Ninnu Pochu"
  
  Cast:
  K.BagyaRaj
  M N NambiyaaR
  SenthaaMarai
  Sulokshana
  and others
  
  This movie is from KB Factory - I mean K.BagyaRaj Factory
  
  K.BagyaRaj - One of the famous and talented directors in tamil cinema is known for his clever screenplay and direction. He must be one of the directors who is still respected for his brilliance in writing sheer screenplay. None of the characters in his movies go unnoticed. Apart from this, he is a good actor.
  
  The movie had "NambiyaaR" in a different character role. The "KUshti VaathiyaaR" role he played in the movie is one of the funny yet powerful characters in the movie.
  
  Suloksha and SEnthaamaRai too had good roles.
  
  This movie had great numbers from IR. Not to forget his BGM too. songs like "Aeri Karai PoongaatraE" and others are quite popular.
  
  Let us discuss on this different yet good love story !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 6 7:05:30 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  (enna avtar change?? )

  
  
  Summaa thaaN.. I love Attagaasam Getup more than other getups of thala
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 6 9:00:07 2007.

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  TNP , semey comedy padam !
  Super pick.
  
  I love the pen parkum scene when someone will comment about Bagyaraj's education .
  
  Maapla niraya padichirukaaaru
  PUC 4 varusam padichirukaru !!
  
  Nambiar made a handsome come back ( retired man requested to come again )
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 6 9:03:11 2007.

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  Though all songs are super, I love Boopaalam isaikkum poomagal oorvalam.
  
  When Jesudas touches Irumanam ( bass guitar will be terrific ) . Uma Ramanan also sang well.
  
  2 more songs , Thanga changili minnum paingili and Yeri kara poongatre
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 6 9:05:54 2007.

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  Indeed Nakeeran. That "PeN PaaRkura" scene is a hilarious one.
  
  "Aemba ThoNa maappiLLai kootikittu Varathu oRu Latchanamaana paiyaNa kooti kittu vara koodaaathu"
  
  Bagyaraj oru muzhi muzhippaaru !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 6 12:29:14 2007.

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  The scenes after the peN parkkum padalam would be very entertaining as well. Bhagyaraj beating up nambiyar's men, sulokshana's friends teasing her are nice scenes indeed. But the movie gets a bit senti towards the end when bhagyaraj moves into nambiyar's house and when nambiyar dies etcc., The second half is actually not that good when compared to the first.
  
  Songs - Top class. My favorite is thangachangili minnum paingiLi
  
  

• From: vasanthgt on Fri Feb 9 2:23:24 2007.

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  In that film, Bhagyaraj will take his relative along with him to meet Sulochana.
  On seeing his relative combing his hair, Bhagyaraj will ask him to apply cycle oil in his face and then will take along wiht him
  Senthaamarai's old mother has done comedy sort of role in that film and this may be Manirathanm's inspiration of naughty grandma's in his film
  
  

• From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 9 11:00:15 2007.

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  vasanthgt wrote:

  In that film, Bhagyaraj will take his relative along with him to meet Sulochana. On seeing his relative combing his hair, Bhagyaraj will ask him to apply cycle oil in his face and then will take along wiht him Senthaamarai's old mother has done comedy sort of role in that film and this may be Manirathanm's inspiration of naughty grandma's in his film

  
  
  Yes- that is for the second time i guess. First time both will sit in the chair and she will all praise the other actor and illtreat bagyaraj, who s the actually mapillay. You must see the reaction..good one though.. offcourse nambilar played a very vital role..songs.and senthamarai best supporting appa actor those days..(like vijayakumar these days.)..
  
  

• From: ssanjinika on Fri Feb 9 23:14:11 2007.

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  This is one cool movie. Very funny. One of Bagyaraj's better movies. Loved the ponnu paakara scene where he describes how the girl should be dressed. Very funny
  
  

• From: Scale on Mon Feb 12 4:21:30 2007.

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  seekirama adutha padatha podunga :handcuffed: by nambiar
  
  

• From: saradhaa_sn on Mon Feb 12 7:07:31 2007.

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  A nice movie to watch...
  
  Songs were good
  
  'thangachangili minnum paingiLi'
  'poobALam isaikkum poomagaL oorvalam'
  'thAlAtta nAn poRandhEn thAlE...thAlElO'
  'yErikkarai pUngAtrE'
  'En sOga kadhaiyai kELu thAi kulamE'
  
  Bagyaraj honoured Nambiyar's seniority by putting Nambiyar's name in the first and his name in the second, in the title. (This is the only movie I saw Nambiyar's name in the first of all).
  
  But we should accept, second half was little boring, comparing to first half.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 13 9:19:37 2007.

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  ORU THALAI RAAGAM
  
  Yes. This is one movie which explained the one sided love affair beautifully. This one is from our TR ! Not to forget the songs from this movie and the excellant packaging. The portrayal of human emotions in this movie was sound and crisp !
  
  I don't have much to update on this movie since I watched this long time back. Let us hope our veterans fill more info on this one. Thanks to everyone who shared their comments on Thooral Ninnu pochu
  
  
  [quote'"behindwoods"]
  Timeless is the best word to describe the effectiveness of the title. The movie which dealt with love that goes unreciprocated is still considered the best citable example of ‘one side’ love; all thanks to the title. Even today when one comes across anyone whose love is not being returned, ‘Oru Thalai Raagam’ comes to mind.[/quote]
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 13 9:36:34 2007.

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  Selva Sirrrrrrrrrrrr
  
  Enna ellam oldiesaa pidikireenga !
  
  I have heard the songs & all are superb
  
  I was told that this movie was a craze for college goers then
  
  My favourite is Koodayila karuvadu
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 13 9:45:16 2007.

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  TR's music was outstanding in this movie..... .....this struck perfect chord with the youth of 80's............this was the first movie which talked abt towns/villages' college youth.........till then tamil films portrayed as if ,only chennai had college youth......
  
  TR's 1981 classic was a trend setter of its own kind.......with so many tragic love stories flooding the tamil hearts.......this movie had its unique breed of characters.....the drunkard chandrashekhar, the bell bottom "ching cha's".........it identifies the period.......wonder why we dont get such movies nowadays..... ....
  
  but one things for sure, if i wud directed this movie now, i would have ended the movie with hero giving a "middle finger" salute to the heroine......seriously, i feel so happy that guys are much more sensible,career-oriented,parents-obeying than those 80's punnakku raajas......that was surely a dark phase for boys with so many ppl. losing their lives in the name of love....
  
  but its a movie which will remain etched in ur memory for years to come....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 13 9:51:12 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Selva Sirrrrrrrrrrrr Enna ellam oldiesaa pidikireenga !

  
  
  Ofcourse Nakeeran sir. That is the purpose of this thread. We may get some information from other veterans on the movies. (some tidbits, extra news, etc )
  
  Even hubbers can also suggest some movies which can be discussed later on
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 10:16:13 2007.

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  I hope many of the hubbers know that the director of the movie is not TR ,but Ibrahim (If my memory is right).
  
  There was no takers among the distributers for 'Oru Thalai Raagam' ,so TR released the movie in few towns like nagercoil .After few days word of mouth made this movie huge hit and later it released in other towns and cities.
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Tue Feb 13 10:18:36 2007.

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  Ibrahim Rowther who acted as villain in chinna gounder?
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 10:31:20 2007.

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  Hulkster wrote:

  Ibrahim Rowther who acted as villain in chinna gounder?

  
  
  I didn't know Producer Ibrahim Rowther (Ex -Vijaya kanth friend) acted as villian in Chinna Gownder ..But He is not the Ibrahim ,director of Oru thalai ragam
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 13 10:32:17 2007.

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  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0334065/
  
  yes joe u r right.....it was some E.M.Ibrahim......i dunno y ppl call it a TR movie then???
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 10:36:44 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0334065/ yes joe u r right.....it was some E.M.Ibrahim......i dunno y ppl call it a TR movie then???

  
  
  It is first movie of TR as a MD and Lyricst ..and songs are the main reason for the success of the movie.
  
  Another small note .TR's wife Usha acted in this movie in a small role as heroins friend
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 13 11:32:38 2007.

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  Superb choice selva
  
  One of the best titled movies ever. The movie has a gripping, very entertaining screenplay. The biggest plus of the movie is the songs. ALL the songs are fantastic even now. My favorites are:
  
  kadavuL vaazhum kOvililE
  vaasamillA malaridhu
  Ithu Kuzhanthai paadum thAlAttu (superb lyrics)
  
  Even the manmadhan ratchikkanum song is very good and I guess its the first of its kind Dialogs (by TR, I assume) were sharp and not very long, thankfully Chandrasekar was awesome, especially his talk in their farewell day (forgot the dialogs, but something with a rOjA). But the other actors were pathetic Cant blame them, their first movie
  
  And Joe I dont remember usha acting in it but TR has also acted in the movie. In the first scene itself - the college culturals. He will try to compere but the students will boo him out
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 11:46:03 2007.

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  Nerd,
  I may be wrong in saying Usha acted in a role ,But I am sure Usha appeared one or two scenes atleast.
  
  Yes ,Golden lyrics from TR ..Still most of the lines are in my memory
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 11:49:38 2007.

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  இது குழந்தை பாடும் தாலாட்டு
  இது இரவு நேர பூபாளம்
  இது மேற்கில் தோன்றும் உதயம்
  இது நதியில்லாத ஓடம்
  
  
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 13 12:14:59 2007.

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  One more info.
  
  The MD title shows AA RAJ - RAJENDAR
  
  What happened to AA Raj ?? Did he compose any other movie ?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 13 14:55:00 2007.

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  nerd: usha rajender is the only friend of Subathra (rupa) 's in oru thalai raagm.
  
  She will propose to Raja-the hero- but he will turn her down as e fell in love with rupa who is usha's best friend!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 13 15:45:34 2007.

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  I never know that was usha.. she looked very different off-screen
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Tue Feb 13 16:07:11 2007.

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  My dad always says that this was the only worth-while film of TR's and the music is also nice
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 13 16:50:09 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  I never know that was usha.. she looked very different off-screen

  
  
  nerd: I have a dvd of oru thalai raagam. Trust me it is usha who is the friend of rupa.
  
  You are right, rajendran was the first one who sings Hindi song in the stage. When people make fun of him, he will say "hindi theriyumaa unakku?"
  
  kolly: oru thalai raagam and rayil payaNangkaLil are good movies of TR! Of course your dad is right, kolly!
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 21:27:33 2007.

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  Thamizh,
  I wonder whether TR was just MD and Lyricst for 'Rayil Payanaggalil'..Is he the director of RP?
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 21:30:17 2007.

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  TR used TMS for two songs in Oru thalai Raagam
  
  1.Naan oru Rasiyilla Raaja
  2.En kathai Mudiyum Neramithu
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 13 21:34:42 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  TR used TMS for two songs in Oru thalai Raagam 1.Naan oru Rasiyilla Raaja 2.En kathai Mudiyum Neramithu

  and till this day, TMS laments that these songs were the cause of his downfall...
  
  he blames TR totally for his downfall, and describes him in deragatory words!
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 21:38:30 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: TR used TMS for two songs in Oru thalai Raagam 1.Naan oru Rasiyilla Raaja 2.En kathai Mudiyum Neramithu and till this day, TMS laments that these songs were the cause of his downfall... he blames TR totally for his downfall, and describes him in deragatory words!

  
  
  Yeah! I heard TMS pulampifying that after 'Naanoru Raasiyilla Raaja' ,he lost the market ..But I wonder he sung "Amaithikku Peyar thaan santhi" in TR's next movie rayil Payanangalil
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 13 21:51:55 2007.

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  Yes Joe, but he didnt complain while he was singing for TR.
  It was only after....
  
  thatti paarththEn kottaankuchi was originally meant for TMS.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 13 22:01:29 2007.

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  Nov,
  TMS is a pulampal mannan . He must learn from Great MSV
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Feb 13 22:34:42 2007.

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  very good movie with some excellent songs! "Vaasam illa malaridhu vasandhathai thedudhu" , "Idhu kuzhandhai paadum thaalattu" are great songs!
  
  Ibrahim didn direct anyother movie other than this?
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Wed Feb 14 0:13:12 2007.

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  I saw this movie on tv 3-4 months ago......
  ...it was good....nice songs....story is ok....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Feb 14 0:47:46 2007.

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  Sinthiya wrote:

  I saw this movie on tv 3-4 months ago...... ...it was good....nice songs....story is ok....

  
  
  yes, you will feel its a bit unreal for today's circumstances.....come on, y shuld a guy kill/torture himself for not getting a girl?? ......for the guys of the 80's, it was a fashion to lose self respect for love........
  
  proposing to a girl and getting rejected is losing respect and is shameful....
  proposing to a girl who has already rejected and again getting rejected is losing self respect and is strictly punishable...
  
  this movie sometimes makes u feel very low on the level that this guy goes down to get his love.....
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 11:28:46 2007.

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  But TR once said in an interview that he was bold enough to give such a song to TMS in his first escapade with him (naan oru raasiyillA rAjA)
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Feb 14 13:50:25 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Thamizh, I wonder whether TR was just MD and Lyricst for 'Rayil Payanaggalil'..Is he the director of RP?

  
  joe; I have not seen rayil payaNangaLil recently. I thought it was TR's first official movie as a director. I could be wrong!
  
  If you have any doubts aobut oru thalai raagam credits, I can clarify now. I will try answer the questions regarding RP when I watch the dvd of that movie. I sure will remember your question and will get back to you!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Feb 14 14:48:44 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  Sinthiya wrote: I saw this movie on tv 3-4 months ago...... ...it was good....nice songs....story is ok.... yes, you will feel its a bit unreal for today's circumstances.....come on, y shuld a guy kill/torture himself for not getting a girl?? .

  
  
  Not everybody understands everything, maddy!
  
  

• From: ssanjinika on Wed Feb 14 20:59:19 2007.

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  Hey,
  What is the story of Oru Thalai Raagam. Have not watched and going by the discussions it looks like it might be a good movie to watch.
  
  

• From: Surya on Wed Feb 14 21:25:41 2007.

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  College Boy Falls for College Girl. It doensn't work out, College boy decides to take the Highway to DEVDAS-ville.
  
  That's all i remember....
  
  Can someone elaborate pls...
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 21:28:52 2007.

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  If I am not wrong, The hero and heroin never talk to each other in 'Oru thalai raagam' ..am I correct?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 22:36:04 2007.

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  i guess so too joe.. Its been atleast 4 years since I watched the movie.
  
  SS: Thats one heck of a movie. You may not like but definitely worth a watch. Superb songs/Bgm/lyrics and screenplay
  
  

• From: ssanjinika on Wed Feb 14 22:46:01 2007.

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  Nerd/Surya,
  I thought that was the story of Rail Payanangal. Isnt the song Santhi Santhi from that movie? In that also college boy and college girl love eachother but dont speak.College girl marries another guy and guy becomes devdas. ITs a pretty good movie too . Have I got the movie names mixed up?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:04:27 2007.

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  amaithikku peyar thAn santhi is from rayil payaNangaLil and i havent seen the movie i think. TR is pretty famous for his love failure movies and I guess he drew inspirations from oru thalai raagam. If you remember
  
  - lots of train scenes
  - chandrasekar who drinks everyda
  - a non-actor as a hero
  - a heroine who is very conservative with just one friend
  - climax in the train where the protoganist dies
  
  then you are talking about OTR
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 23:07:23 2007.

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  Nerd,
  TR once said that most of the songs in Oru thalai Raagam were from his real life ,he used to sing these songs while train travelling.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:11:33 2007.

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  Thats news to me joe
  
  Actually TR has given 5-6 silver jubilees during the 80s. Thats no mean achievement
  
  Also during that period (IR's peak, actually) his music was very popular as well..
  
  Its indeed saddening to see people ridiculing him these days, without knowing his talents. Having said that, his inane movies off late is not doing any good
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 14 23:16:41 2007.

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  wowwww It is nice to see lot of information on this movie and TR !
  
  TR is not the director of this movie Thanks for the info Joe ! I didn't know this one before !
  
  Nerd - Thanks Seems you like TR's old movies a lot ! btw, I think his music was different and he had his own style then. That is why he was able to ride the wave which was dominated by IR and others during that period. I loved his "Monisha eN Monalisa". Athukkapuram
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 14 23:17:07 2007.

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  Thats true Nerd, he studied at Annamalai University(Chidambaram).He used to travel from Chidambaram to Mayiladuthurai(his native) through train, while traveling he will sing it seems
  
  Btw..you know guys, he will be the host for 'Arattai Arangam' from this week!!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 14 23:22:04 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  Btw..you know guys, he will be the host for 'Arattai Arangam' from this week!!

  
  
  Is it I think the show will become popular immediately ! KannungaLa idukaagavaavathu TAMIL CHANNELS ah marupadiyum telecast pannuga, Bangalore La !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:27:57 2007.

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  See becks thats what I was trying to imply. Most of you guys are hellbent on ridiculing him. I am a big big fan of his music + lyrics. Of course just 10 odd movies not more that. selva, i am a fan of his music and not his movies. Out of all TR associated movies, OTR is the best easily. In fact i have not seen many TR movies. But his music + lyrics is pretty impressive. Even in the movies in which he did just that, the songs are awesome - pookkaLai paRikkathIrgaL, kiLinjalgaL (another pretty good movie, a deserving candidate for movie of the week)
  
  Anyway end digressions
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 14 23:33:39 2007.

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  maams! ippo yaaru TR songs\lyrics pidikaadhu-nu sonnadhu? Even I like his songs very few has his talents.But as far as "Aratai Arangam" he is not the perfect host! He wont allow others to talk.Lets see how it is.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 23:33:56 2007.

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  Nerd,
  Me too a fan of his lyrics..I mentioned this many times in TR thread.As you told ,once TR songs are very very popular .I don't know what happened to him after Mythili ennai kaathali.
  
  Few examples of his excellent Lyrics
  
  From Rayil payanangalil
  
  பூத்தால் மலரும் உதிரும்
  நெஞ்சில் பூத்தாள் உதிரவில்லை
  நிலவும் தேய்ந்து வளரும்
  அவள் நினைவோ தேய்வதில்லை.
  
  One from Maithili ennai kaathali
  
  தடாகத்தில் மீன் ரெண்டு
  காமத்தில் தடுமாறி
  தாமரைப் பூ மீது விழுந்தனவோ
  இதைக்கண்ட வேகத்தில்
  பிரம்மனும் மோகத்தில்
  படைத்திட்ட பாகம் தான் உன் கண்களோ
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Feb 14 23:36:59 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Nerd, I may be wrong in saying Usha acted in a role ,But I am sure Usha appeared one or two scenes atleast. Yes ,Golden lyrics from TR ..Still most of the lines are in my memory

  
  
  Yes JOE. It was Usha who acted as heroine's friend in the movie. Needless to say Music and Lyrics were Top class
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:37:52 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  maams! ippo yaaru TR songs\lyrics pidikaadhu-nu sonnadhu? Even I like his songs very few has his talents.But as far as "Aratai Arangam" he is not the perfect host! He wont allow others to talk.Lets see how it is.

  
  
  becks, i am blaming TR here.. His gimmicks these days are so bad that it has made people forget the good things that he has done in the 80s. Very sad indeed.
  
  These days i just see people ridiculing him everywhere in the internet, not even one guy to appreciate his talents. That guy is sure talented, but has wasted everything, unfortunately
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 14 23:41:19 2007.

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  I think he is doing this purposefully for publicity! Forget TR..Simbhu belongs to this generation he can advice his dad to stop giving movie like 'veerasaamy' right?
  
  Anyways end dig!
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 23:41:19 2007.

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  //Dig..
  
  Nerd,Neenga Vera ..NT -yave kindal pannuranga ippa ullavanga..TR emmaathiram.
  
  dig//
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:45:08 2007.

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  joe: The problem is I have not seen even a SINGLE person appreciating TR's talents
  
  becks: kELvi kEttuttu end digression ah anyway simbu does not even have 10% talents as that of his dad, IMHO. His vallavan is as bad as his dad's monisha..
  
  selva: sorry mate, hopefully we will get back to OTR
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 14 23:47:15 2007.

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  Nerd,
  Rightly put ! I like TR for the movies that he gave in the past (his early days). I also like his lyrics and music IF not all his movies. Must say - He is too good in giving "love failure" movies. Most of the heroines in his movies will be ordinary and yet the guy will fall for her Except MaithiLi ennai kaathaLi (heroine was Amala), most of the heroines of his early movies were like "girl next door". Oflate, many ridicule him for "N" other reasons IF not his lyrics and music ! Even Veerasaamy music was not ridiculed that much I believe
  
  Did TR wrote lyrics for "Oru thalai raagam" or it was someone else?
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 23:50:20 2007.

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  Back to OTR...
  
  Even though the movie is tragedy and serious love story ,two of the songs are different
  
  1.Koodayila karuvaadu -teasing song
  
  2.Manmathan radchikkanum intha mangaiyar kaalaigalae - another teasing song ,very very famous then.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 14 23:52:18 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Did TR wrote lyrics for "Oru thalai raagam" or it was someone else?

  
  
  Enna selva ippadi kettuteenga ..TR wrote all songs and did music and I am not sure about dialogues also.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Feb 14 23:56:44 2007.

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  I guess thamiz can help us with this since thamiz owns the DVD. AFAIK, TR penned OTR's story, screenplay and dialogs along with songs
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Feb 15 0:00:23 2007.

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  Nerd,
  Is the heroin same who acted in 'Puthu Kavithai' with rajini?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 15 0:03:01 2007.

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  Joe,
  Unless we have a DVD or VCD copy we can never confirm these things. First, I thought this movie was directed by TR himself Never knew about Ibrahim then !
  
  That is why I was a bit skeptical. This is what happened with Iruvar as well for me. I thought MR wrote the dialogues. But in the movie, the credit for the same goes to Suhaashini !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Feb 15 0:04:32 2007.

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  I don't think so Joe. Puthukavithai's heroine was jyothi and I guess she has not acted in any movie other than PK. Also I guess OTR's heroine(sarithA) acted in rayil payaNangaLil/UyiruLLavarai ushA. I am not very sure
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Feb 15 0:05:41 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Joe, Unless we have a DVD or VCD copy we can never confirm these things. First, I thought this movie was directed by TR himself Never knew about Ibrahim then ! That is why I was a bit skeptical. This is what happened with Iruvar as well for me. I thought MR wrote the dialogues. But in the movie, the credit for the same goes to Suhaashini !

  
  
  I agree .It is just like How many people know MD of Vazhve Mayam is Gangai Amaran ,not IR.
  
  But here Oru thalai Raagam songs are known as TR songs .Most know this.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 15 0:08:13 2007.

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  Thanks for the info Joe !
  
  

• From: ssanjinika on Thu Feb 15 0:30:42 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Nerd, Rightly put ! I like TR for the movies that he gave in the past (his early days). I also like his lyrics and music IF not all his movies. Must say - He is too good in giving "love failure" movies. Most of the heroines in his movies will be ordinary and yet the guy will fall for her Except MaithiLi ennai kaathaLi (heroine was Amala), most of the heroines of his early movies were like "girl next door". Oflate, many ridicule him for "N" other reasons IF not his lyrics and music ! Even Veerasaamy music was not ridiculed that much I believe Did TR wrote lyrics for "Oru thalai raagam" or it was someone else?

  
  
  <Cont dig>
  Mythili en Kaadhali-la though heroine was amala the hero(TR ie) will be in love with someone else who def didnt look like heroine mat to me .
  <end dig>
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Feb 15 0:35:00 2007.

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  hmmmm... some serious misinformation....
  
  
  ibrahim was the producer not the director of OTR
  directors were Robert Rajasekhar
  
  the actress in OTR is Roopa who was paired opposite Shankar
  
  
  the peculiarity of the songs were that there were no duets - all male voices only:
  
  vaasamillaa malaridhu vasanthaththai thEdudhu - SP Bala
  idhu kuzhandhai paadum paattu - SP Bala
  kadavul vaazhum kOvililE - Jayachandran
  koodaiyila karuvaadu - Malaysia Vasudevan
  en kathai mudiyum nEram idhu - TMS
  naan oru raasi illa raaja - TMS
  manmadhan ratchikkanum- Jolly Abraham
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 15 0:44:07 2007.

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  NOV,
  Ibrahim um director kedaiyaatha Thanks for the update. Innum ethanai director peyar uLLa vara poguthoE
  
  Sandya, Yes !! YOu are right ! TR will be in love with another girl IF not Amala !
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Feb 15 1:30:34 2007.

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  NOV,
  I am sure Ebrahim was the director of OTR ,not Robert raja sekar
  
  See here
  http://www.explorefree.com/popup_image.php?pID=597
  
  No Rober _rajasekar name there.
  
  Rober_rajaSekar were directors of 'Paalaivana Cholai' ,which had the song "Pownami Neram paavaiyoruththi'
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Feb 15 2:56:23 2007.

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  But actor Chandrasekar says otherwise.
  
  http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:jQ8C8znwqDQJ:www.hindu.com/2006/11/30/stories/2006113014390200.htm+oru+thalai+ragam&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=13
  
  anyway Joe, the fact remains that OTR is largely a TR film.
  Didnt it run for a year?
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Feb 15 3:12:48 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  But actor Chandrasekar says otherwise. http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:jQ8C8znwqDQJ:www.hindu.com/2006/11/30/stories/2006113014390200.htm+oru+thalai+ragam&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=13 anyway Joe, the fact remains that OTR is largely a TR film. Didnt it run for a year?

  
  
  I hope that they wrote wrong 'Oru Thalai Raagam' instead of 'Paalaivana cholai'.
  
  Yes! OTR ran for 365 days.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Feb 15 12:18:56 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  I don't think so Joe. Puthukavithai's heroine was jyothi and I guess she has not acted in any movie other than PK. Also I guess OTR's heroine(sarithA) acted in rayil payaNangaLil/UyiruLLavarai ushA. I am not very sure

  
  
  You are correct, nerd.
  
  Rupa -oru thalai raagam
  
  jOthi_ puthu kavithai (rayil payaNangkaLil heroine)
  
  

• From: Amarshiva on Thu Feb 15 16:07:14 2007.

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  Yes tamiz..you are right.. Oru thalai ragam.. mixed with bunch of good songs and college galata and good stuff..
  
  Very nice TR movie. Infact, it will apply to alltime college goers. Though not a TR fan, I really liked the movie. Especially the songs" Kaduval vazum "
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 20 7:42:47 2007.

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  Sorry for the delay friends.
  Here is the pick of this week. A really different movie.
  
  VEEDU
  
  Director: Balu Mahendra
  Music : ILaya Raja
  Cast: Banu Chandar, Archana, M.A.Chokkalinga Bhagavathar
  year: 1988
  
  

  Quote:

  One of the few films that Balu Mahendra can be proud of. Archana won a national award for best actress (deservedly so) for playing a middle-class working woman in this songless movie (BGM is Ilayaraja's How to Name It). Well-made and realistic, worth watching. Don't expect any song-and-dance routines.

  
  
  

  Quote:

  * Balu Mahendra's Veedu deals with Housing a major problem faced by urban middle-class Indian. This film is a striking departure from the earlier works of Balu Mahendra..Balu Mahendra as his own cinematographer has made the film very visual. * Sudha, a clerk in Chennai lives with her sister and her grandfather, a retired music teacher.Her friends advice her to build her own house.When she starts on this venture, she runs into numerous hurdles.Helped by her colleague and friend Gopi she goes from one office to another trying to get the project going.As the house is nearing completion , her grandfather dies and the Metropolitan Water Authority appropriates the house.The film ends with Sudha seeking justice in a Court of Law. * Archana acted in the role of Sudha, the harassed clerk.Her portrayal won her the National Award for the Best Actress.Another striking feature of the film was the portrayal of the grandfather by M.A.Chokkalinga Bhagavathar, a one-time drama artiste. * Another interesting feature of the film was that it did not have any songs. The background music was scored by Illayaraja.The background music blends well with the movie.The major part of the background music was extracted from Illayaraja's music album How to name it

  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 20 10:03:30 2007.

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  i have never seen a worser depressing movie than this in my life.........wat a slow,negative,depressing,false movie.....i call it false bcos, around the same time, my parents (then a lower middle class couple) built a house in chennai and trust me, they didnt face any such problems..........just to make it sad, u shuldnt manipulate truth and facts.........who told art movies should be sad only??
  
  anyways, i havent watched a balumahendra movie since this one........ofcourse sathileelavathi for kamal's antics........ ......
  
  sorry selva, u started off with positive movie and now scaling new depths of negative movies..... .......
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 20 10:22:27 2007.

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  Maddy,
  You need positive movies. Right ? Then you can recommend the same. I will include them in the upcoming weeks.
  
  The whole purpose of this thread is to "To enable users to come up with movies which they want to discuss with others. Unfortunately, it is only me who is posting the info on movies so that a movie can be discussed
  
  Next time : You can come up with some movies which u like !
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 20 10:31:51 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Maddy, You need positive movies. Right ? Then you can recommend the same. I will include them in the upcoming weeks. The whole purpose of this thread is to "To enable users to come up with movies which they want to discuss with others. Unfortunately, it is only me who is posting the info on movies so that a movie can be discussed Next time : You can come up with some movies which u like !

  
  
  i recommend k.bagyaraj's "indru poi naalai vaa"
  
  comedy unlimited... only the 2nd half is a bit boring
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 20 10:35:22 2007.

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  to be frank, yedhaartha vazhkayil ellorum jeippadhillai......
  
  not everyone becomes multimillionaire in a single song (like in rajini films)..
  
  thatz y some people tend to make films like veedu, nizhalgal etc. with -ve ending... (i dont remember veedu as it will be shown only in DD)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 20 10:35:30 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Maddy, You need positive movies. Right ? Then you can recommend the same. I will include them in the upcoming weeks.

  
  
  sure......next week - kadhalikka neramillai......my request.....
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Feb 20 11:05:28 2007.

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  Selva, great choice. Veedu is one of my favourite movies. It's been a long time since I watched it, but let me write what I think of it.
  

  MADDY wrote:

  i have never seen a worser depressing movie than this in my life.........wat a slow,negative,depressing,false movie.....i call it false bcos, around the same time, my parents (then a lower middle class couple) built a house in chennai and trust me, they didnt face any such problems..........just to make it sad, u shuldnt manipulate truth and facts.........

  
  Strongly disagree. Economic and social standings vary from family to family - even among middle classes. Suburbs like Thambaram, Velachery came up just so that middle class families can build a house. In late 80's and early 90's you could see half built houses standing there for years on end, while their owner's completed the work in stages, whenever they got the money.
  
  The protagonist in the movie had to struggle all alone in her quest to build a house. And the movie is not just a statement on the her efforts to get a house of her own and can be seen as a commentary on different aspects of today's life. It speaks about the importance of working women in today's society. It talks about the place society has accorded to the older generation and their anguishes (which Balu Mahendra later explored in 'Sandhya Raagam'). Beyond all, it hails today's woman as a strong and central figure in her family.
  
  As in any BM movie, it is the camera that catches our attention in this one too. But for a different reason. If I remember right, there are long shots (uncharacteristic of BM) abound in this movie, especially the ones showing the locality on which the house is built. Ofcourse, Illayaraja's BGM requires special mention. A particular scene has Chokalinga Bhagavadar stepping into the house (first he places his left foot, which he immediately retracts and then places his trembling right foot). As he enters the house Illayaraja's BGM takes over, merging the viewer into the scene, making us go through the same emotions as the old man.
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Feb 20 15:20:49 2007.

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  Thanks Selva for mentioning a great movie from the great BM.
  
  Archana gave a top-class performance.
  
  Yes, Kannan, it was a superb commentary on the issues you have mentioned. By long shots do you mean long takes (time) or distance?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 20 15:42:13 2007.

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  Veedu has realism written all over it. Almost 80% of the middle/lower-middle class people would have faced such problems and thats BM's best movie, easily. Haven't seen veedu in years though
  
  His kathai nEram is the best TV series ever barring a few episodes. Again realistic to the core. Thats his strenght, realistic portrayal of simple real-life incidents.
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Tue Feb 20 15:56:58 2007.

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  VEedu ..... excellent portrayal of a middle-class problem .....
  
  the movie was a slow mover though .... having no songs did not feel up as with good bg by IR .....
  
  Many ppl referred this movie as a documentary ... which was the name given to slow movers with much of non-entertainment factors .... ! but this movie really did stand out in all those ..... and proved artistical value of an art movie ....
  
  Archana did a commending role in the movie.... and CB too CB later appeared in Gentleman, Sathi Leelavathi and more movies .... where his performance in Veedu and Sathi Leelavathi were leading ones ......
  
  Good Choice Selva
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Feb 20 16:00:48 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  Thanks Selva for mentioning a great movie from the great BM. Archana gave a top-class performance.

  
  Veedu is one of my all time favourite movie! The movie was a very well made one. Archana apart, CB who acted as father of Archana also gave a spectacular performance!
  The scene where her father will catch a bus and visit his daughter's house(still under construction) is very touching!
  When he feelingly touches the bricks on the wall - listen to the background music from IR; it's sheer symphony! IR's background music infused lot of "life" into the scenes that did not have any dialogues! One of the finest movies ever made in Tamil cinema Glad to see folks are discussing about this classic from BM! Carry on guys!
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Feb 20 16:21:56 2007.

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  intha padam mattum marakave mudiyaathu.. naan serial ninachi paathukittu irrundhaen.. 1/2 hr mudiyum..1/2hr la mudiyum-nu
  
  oru thaatha nadaka aaramitchaaru.. vaadaga veetla irrundhu pudhu veetuku pora varaikum.. camera avaru pinnadiya eduthukittu ponaanga. paava avaruku vayasaaiyudchi.. methuva thaan ponaaru
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Feb 20 19:55:38 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  By long shots do you mean long takes (time) or distance?

  
  I meant the distance. BM for some reason seems to be comfortable with medium shots and close ups. But from what I remember, Veedu had many long distance shots of the house with respect to where it is located (outskirts with some other houses coming up) - perhaps a concious attempt to show that the family is not alone in the dream of owning a house?
  
  Coming to think of it, the takes were long in the sense of time too. BM usually gets out of the scene quickly (without feeding the voyeur in the viewer). However, Veedu stands out in contrast. Long takes (in time) was very popular in the new wave that was embraced by Kannada and Malayalam cinema of the 70's. BM probably wanted to introduce that in Tamil too in Veedu.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 21 0:07:27 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  Veedu has realism written all over it. Almost 80% of the middle/lower-middle class people would have faced such problems and thats BM's best movie, easily. Haven't seen veedu in years though His kathai nEram is the best TV series ever barring a few episodes. Again realistic to the core. Thats his strenght, realistic portrayal of simple real-life incidents.

  
  
  Completely my views too
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Feb 21 2:43:37 2007.

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  Movie Cop wrote:

  When he feelingly touches the bricks on the wall - listen to the background music from IR; it's sheer symphony! IR's background music infused lot of "life" into the scenes that did not have any dialogues!

  interestingly IR did not score any BGM for the movie.
  the BGM was entirely from IR's How to name it and Nothing but wind orchestral albums.
  
  

• From: great on Wed Feb 21 12:58:45 2007.

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  Next Pick kandippa Salangai Oli , ippaiyae thundu pottu vechutean
  
  

• From: vasanthgt on Thu Feb 22 4:00:13 2007.

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  Raja's BGM will be extra - ordinary
  
  

• From: Aandavan on Thu Feb 22 4:04:19 2007.

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  great wrote:

  Next Pick kandippa Salangai Oli , ippaiyae thundu pottu vechutean

  THe Best Performance BY Nammavar
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 26 3:00:55 2007.

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  Thanks a lot friends for sharing your views on "Veedu"
  Kannan - Your information on "Long shots" being used in the movie was very informative
  
  I request our dear friends to PM me the movie which they want to be discussed in this thread.
  
  Please note that the movies won't be listed in the order I receive the messages. I will be randomly picking them and will be listing them in this thread so that all the movies will be equally placed w.r.t each other.
  
  Seeking your support on the same. Thanks a lot once again friends !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 1:48:58 2007.

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  Title : Kaathalika Neramillai (Eastman Colour)
  
  Pick from our hubber "MADDY"
  
  Highlights : This is a highly successful full length comedy. Ravichandran and Muthuraman plan to marry Baalaiya's daughters Kanchana and and Rajashree. Renowned for it's ground breaking songs and for making Viswanathan Vaelai Vendum song famous. Ravichandran's first movie. Entertaining comedy by Nagesh and Sachu, including a dance by this famous duo.
  
  Cast : Muthuraman, Ravichandran, Kaanchana, Rajashree, Balaiya, Nagesh, Sachu
  
  Story, Dialogue : Sri Thar, Gopu
  
  Director : Sri Thar
  
  Producer : Chithralaya
  
  Music : Viswanathan, Rama Moorthy
  
  Lyrics : Kavingar Kannathasan, assistance - Panchu Arunasalam
  
  Songs : P B Sreenivas, P Susila, Seer Kaazhi Govindarajan, L R Eswari, Jesudass, Rajee
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 27 1:58:31 2007.

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  Kaathalikka Neramillai -One of All time best classic comedies.
  
  The one and only Nagesh and great actor Balaih rock
  
  Director of the most serious movie 'Nenjil oru Alayam' and and director of most hilarious movie 'Kathalikka Neramilai" is same ..It tells How a director could be versatile like Sreedar.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Feb 27 2:14:30 2007.

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  Kaadhalikka Neramillai excellent classic!
  
  First of all, colour of the movie is so true!!
  
  I will add up my comments about this movie later.
  
  
  Sridhar - his hands and legs are paralyzed now
  
  What a great man, he is unable to speak,walk properly. They showed it in DD-Podhigai!
  
  He was trying to speak something,but it was not clear!
  
  Idhu thaan vaazhkayao?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 2:23:53 2007.

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  One thing which I liked in this movie was :
  
  It was a complete package with brilliant comedy and good songs.
  IF you take away the songs, then the movie will look ordinarly. The same applies for the comedy sequences also. Everyone had equal share.
  
  Nagesh timing will be awesome so do Balaiya's body language and expressions.
  
  Sisters: OhhHoo Productions ahh ? ennada idhu peru
  Nagesh: Idhaa naaN ungaLUkkaaga VAikaLa, enakkaa vachathu.
  
  
  

• From: hi on Tue Feb 27 2:37:00 2007.

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  I hve this movie CD.. i wont feel bored if i watch it n..number of times..
  
  Songs are good too
  
  Esp the scene where Nagesh teach saachu( i guess it's correct )
  
  Nagesh - "idhu kaadhal parvaya.. ?thirutu parvai"
  saachu- "Sir ungae mooncha patha enaku indhaey parvai dhan varudhu
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Feb 27 3:32:09 2007.

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  super movie.. balayya body language TOP-pu..
  
  nagesh- story telling scene..
  
  and with sachchu.. yo padam edukara padam edukara sollikittu thaan iruka.. oru photo naachi eduthaiya ya
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 27 3:49:08 2007.

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  kb wrote:

  super movie.. balayya body language TOP-pu.. nagesh- story telling scene.. and with sachchu.. yo padam edukara padam edukara sollikittu thaan iruka.. oru photo naachi eduthaiya ya

  
  
  thats my fav dialogue too
  
  one more -
  
  Balayya to muthuraman after knowing Ravichandran is a rich boy
  
  "andha asokar unga magar-ungala"??
  
  full length comedy from a intense director like Sridhar......and wow, what camera angles in some scenes....... ......this guy is a genius director.........ivar allavo "Iyakkunar sigaram"..... ...
  
  music - path breaking from MSV-TKR...... .....all in all a complete entertainer without any masala elements.....
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Feb 27 5:45:38 2007.

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  The movie was the craze of college students when it was released; they didn't keep count of how many times they viewed the movie!( I have a classic example in our home!). Dialogues are highly realistic, the humour very natural. Very ingenious job from Sridhar & all the artistes, old & new. When we recently visited Aziyar dam where some of the scenes were shot my hubby went into raptures reciting word by word each dialogue & scene. BTW, he knows the whole script by heart! Such pure comedy has become a rarity now! ALL songs are superb! 'anupavam puthumai' was a hot favourite of the teens of those times- lyric & music make the song a feast UNLIKE the lewd LOVE songs that keep jarring my ears today! The naivety of the dialogue, expression & theme is simply marvellous. To sum up, the movie is a CLASSIC!
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 27 5:56:49 2007.

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  I don't know why selva put "KaathaLikka NeraMiLLai" instead of "Kaathalikka Neramillai" .it is not காதளிக்க நேரமிள்ளை.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 6:01:49 2007.

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  Joe, I hope you will be happy now
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Feb 27 6:02:11 2007.

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  ¸¡¾Ä¢ì¸ §¿ÃÁ¢ø¨Ä- kaathalikka nEramillai.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 27 6:06:18 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Joe, I hope you will be happy now

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 6:08:33 2007.

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  pavalamani pragasam wrote:

  ¸¡¾Ä¢ì¸ §¿ÃÁ¢ø¨Ä- kaathalikka nEramillai.

  
  
  Aaahaaa !! Thanks PP Madam !
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Feb 27 6:18:57 2007.

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• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 27 6:25:00 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I don't know why selva put "KaathaLikka NeraMiLLai" instead of "Kaathalikka Neramillai" .it is not காதளிக்க நேரமிள்ளை.

  
  
  Ayya Tamil kudimagan Joe Avargale
  
  Evvalavu pizai irukiradho adharku thagundhapadi adjust seidhu kollungal
  
  KN is IMO, THE BEST EVER COMEDY MOVIE till date .
  May be MMKR will come closer to it .
  
  One scene I quickly recollect :
  
  Balaiya trying to meet Muthuraman in his guest house .
  While entering, he gets stopped by his own watchman
  
  Watchman : Ayya ulle pogandheenga
  Balaiya : Endaa pogakoodadhu
  Watchman : Ayya dhaan sonnaaru
  Balaiya : Dei. ovvoru maasamum naan dhaanda unakku sambalam tharravan ( with a pitiable look )
  
  Scene 2 :
  Rajashree screams to Balaiyaa and complains about Ravichandran .
  
  RS : Appa naan udane poi andha aalaa oru vazi pannanum. Avaru kitte poi sanda podanum
  Balaiyaa : Vendaaaammmmmmmaa... Nee ange ponaa KADHAYE VERA VIDHAMA MAARIDUM .
  
  Scene 3 :
  Balaiyaa : Dei Chelapaa. Unga pedhadhukku naan ennai serupaala adikanum. serupala adikanum
  Nagesh : Appo naan enna seiradhu
  B : naa adicha serupaalaa neeyuum adichikooooooooooo
  
  EACH AND EVERY DIALOGUE IN THIS MOVIE IS WITH COMEDY
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 6:29:44 2007.

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  PP Madam,
  That was an excellant compilation on the movie. It just make us feel as if we were there during that time
  
  

  pavalamani pragasam wrote:

  The movie was the craze of college students when it was released; they didn't keep count of how many times they viewed the movie!( I have a classic example in our home!).

  
  
  BTW, I heard that they advertised this movie with the slogan "Kathaiyai ethirpaarthu VaraatheergaL" (something similar to this) Is this true?
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Feb 27 6:34:32 2007.

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  Can't remember!
  
  In those days radio was an important entertainment & KN's full sound track was a frequent repetition to our glee!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 6:47:55 2007.

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  pavalamani pragasam wrote:

  Can't remember! In those days radio was an important entertainment & KN's full sound track was a frequent repetition to our glee!

  
  
  Ya.. Songs are a BIG PLUS in this movie. Whenever the comedy pours in continously, songs provided the needed difference.
  
  In the song "Kaathalikka Neramillai, Kaathalippaar Yaarumillai", I felt the male voice didn't suit "Muthu Raman".
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 27 6:55:02 2007.

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  Selva Sir
  
  Title song was by Seergazi Govindarajan.
  
  I believe Sridhar gave 2 options to MSV .
  
  Either chose a comedy subject ( Sridhar was confident that the movie will be a super hit 0
  
  Another, experimental movie - kalaikovil which Sridhar felt may not be that successful
  
  MSV chose the latter and burnt his fingers.
  
  KN is one of the best albums of MSV-TKR and tamil cinema itself.
  
  Listen to ANUBAVAM PUDHUMAI song
  
  

• From: Designer on Tue Feb 27 6:57:10 2007.

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  My favorite scene is where Nagesh tells the story to Balayya - the expressions and body language of both was superb, such a hilarious scene with nice comedy timing
  
  btw, this film was remade in Hindi, with Kishore Kumar (I think) doing Nagesh's role, and Om Prakash for Balayya. But I didnt find it as enjoyable as 'KN'
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 27 6:59:25 2007.

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  Thanks for the information Nakeeran sir !
  I have a DVD copy of this movie I like the songs in this movie. Yes. "anupavam pudhumai" is a superb melody.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 27 7:04:31 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  full length comedy from a intense director like Sridhar......

  
  
  
  Cant say that. Even in his first movie Kalyana Parisu the comedy track was excellent.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Feb 27 7:07:12 2007.

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  Digression :
  
  I have alse seen OOty varai uravu ( another 100 %comedy movie by Sridhar )
  
  But Nagesh's comedy was mediocre / average when compared to Kadhalikka N.
  But Balaiyaa was superb in both !
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Feb 27 8:04:25 2007.

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  Again, superb choice for the week . From one of my favourite directors. Though I don't agree with Nakeeran's ranking, it is true that KN is right up there with MMKR. Sridhar proved yet again why he was the best of the era. Everything about the movie is great. Songs, screenplay, direction and dialogues. My favourite is of course "Unga ponnana kaigal" (sexist, but still I love the tune). Balaiyya and Nagesh come out tops. However, Sachu's character is usually underrated. Her comic timing is excellent and matched Nagesh scene for scene. And, did I mention she was beautiful?! More later..
  
  

• From: ksen on Tue Feb 27 8:25:36 2007.

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  Designer wrote:

  My favorite scene is where Nagesh tells the story to Balayya - the expressions and body language of both was superb, such a hilarious scene with nice comedy timing

  
  
  Theatrela paakkum pOdhu indha scenela enna dialoguennE yaarukkum kEkkaadhu - avvalavu saththam TV / CDla paathappuramthaan fullaa purinjudhu
  
  I love Nagesh and Sachu dancing 'malar endra mugam ondru sirikkattum' - way beyond times Sachu is so cute in this movie! 'Outdoor ellaam enga Sir, Ootythaane - enga - Ooty - indha saakkula Ooty suthi paakkalaamnu nenaikkuriyaa, poora padathaiyum indha kaatiladhaan edukka pOren' Sachu's expression is superb
  
  The titles itself was great, - the way the cartoon changes into the real car - so advanced and delightful
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 27 10:41:13 2007.

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  Nice thread
  
  Every scene is nice to watch in kathlikka neram illia.
  
  I love to watch EXPRESSIONS on balaiya's face almost in all scenes.
  
  * When he tries to impress fake lakshathipathi muthuraman
  
  * His casual approach towards ravichandran and changing his body language on knowing his wealth.
  
  * His submissiveness to his daughter's actions, reactions and opinions...yet helpless situations
  
  *his authority on nagesh.
  
  BALAIYA would rule the movie
  
  

• From: Designer on Tue Feb 27 13:46:44 2007.

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  hi wrote:

  I hve this movie CD.. i wont feel bored if i watch it n..number of times.. Songs are good too Esp the scene where Nagesh teach saachu( i guess it's correct ) Nagesh - "idhu kaadhal paarvaiya..? thiruttu paarvai" Saachu- "Sir unga moonja paatha enakku indha paarvai dhan varudhu

  
  
  similar dialogues between Nagesh & Sachchu when he teaches her how to emote the scenes
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Feb 27 14:28:52 2007.

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  we dont watch tamil movies......only english movies.....
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Tue Feb 27 14:36:58 2007.

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  WOW wonderful movie to watch .... excellent actors ...... every single person has some contribution to this movie ....
  
  Particularly the scenes of Nagesh and Balayya together .... they were Hilarious .... Masterpieces !
  
  The scene where Nagesh recites a story and the reaction of Balayya .... awesome ...
  One more scene where he recites a story during lunch
  
  oru naai avanukkaaga nunnu azhudhuttu pochu ..... pathu varushathukku munnadi biscuit pottirukkiraan ...... appadiye camera thooki mela kaatrom ... JO nnu mazhai ... ulagamae indha payalukkaaga azharamaadiri ....
  anna .... cha indha oru scene kkaaga un padam nooru naal oodum
  oodum oodum ...orey idathula nikkum
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Tue Feb 27 14:52:16 2007.

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  KAdhalikka neramillai ..
  
  Every department was superb in this
  
  right from the opening.. camera captures merina beach and film opens with a song..
  
  Enna paarvai undhan paarvai by KJY & PS
  
  lovely song
  
  After this story travels to the estate
  
  T.S.Baliah as Viswanathan my god he's another actor whose body language speaks volume about the character (As some one said he's very different in OVU)
  
  Nagesh as chellapa .. chellapa character was made for him and he only could do that..
  
  When he says ohho productions kelvipatirukkengala and sisters say ohho ..
  
  the scenes involving nagesh and chachu are ultimate
  
  that too when chachu says aamam sir chinna vayasula, shcoola raja rani nadaguthula . nagesh says rani vesham pottaya, chachu says rani vesham potta ponnukku samaram veesinen
  
  
  you should see nagesh's face expression here
  
  not to forget Muthuraman who was doing serious roles in Sridhar film did a full fledged comedy role in this and excelled in the old character where he acts as Ravichandran's father andha dhoranai, midukku adhikaram etc..
  
  RaviC and Rajashri as the young lovers were enjoyable too
  
  Chachu's father character is also worth mentioning .thambi car vangalama veedu vangalama
  nagesh aamayaa aprom enna engappa munnadi kal mela kal pottu ukkaralam
  he replies adhu mariyadhai illa adhu mariyadhai illa
  
  Funfilled movie with alll ingredients without obscenity, vulgar dialouges and unnecessary scenes.
  
  Each and Every Frame is adorable and that is the golden period of Tamil cinema where Sridhar, balachander and many others portrayed cinema with some meaning
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Feb 27 21:36:03 2007.

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  hi wrote:

  Esp the scene where Nagesh teach saachu( i guess it's correct ) Nagesh - "idhu kaadhal parvaya.. ?thirutu parvai" saachu- "Sir ungae mooncha patha enaku indhaey parvai dhan varudhu

  
  Continuing from there - Balaiya stops his car on seeing Nagesh and Sachu on the road side:
  Balaiya: Indha kanraviyellam indha kannala dhaan naan paarkanuma?
  Nagesh: Appa (jumping down from higher ground), idhellam indha kannala parkadhingappa, kalai kannala parunga..
  and later,
  Balaiya: innum ennada nadakkanum, nee indha ponna kootittu oor sutharannu paper-la varala, adhu onnu dhaan baaki..
  Nagesh: Varudhu, naan dhan news kuduthen, adutha vellikizhama annikku varudhu..
  
  KN is also strewn with dialogues that bring a silent chuckle. For example this one between Rajasri and Ravichandran:
  Rajasri: Ayyayyo..
  Ravichandran: Thannikulla ennanga pottinga..?
  Rajisri: Transistor
  Ravichandran: yaar sister?
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 27 23:36:37 2007.

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  Nagesh: "oru ponnu... avalukku oru kannu"
  
  Balaiya: "aa... oru ponnulla kanna " (would twist words in sheer fear)
  
  N: "innum kekkareengala"
  
  Balaiya: "Venamppa manasu sariyilla"
  
  
  
  cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to watch balaiya seriously
  
  

• From: ksen on Wed Feb 28 1:47:44 2007.

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  The way we remember each and every scene and dialogue speaks volumes about the film Indha padatha paathuttu, when we see Balaiya in serious roles, even as villain, in other movies, it just doesn't gel! Avvalo strong comedy image create aayiduchu
  
  When Muthuraman and Ravichandran push Nagesh and Sachu out of the guest house, the way Nagesh says 'ippadi sadaarnu veliya thalli padaarnu kadhava saatharaane, avanthaan periya manushan - it is their greatness '.
  
  Andha vintage car, and the sound it makes (where is Lamby ), adhula styleaa paduthutu Ravichandran 'onga ponnaana kaigal' paadaradhu, the way Nagesh's office room is decorated with old hollywood actors photos, English dialogue ellaam followed by Tamil translation (which is a comedy by itself), each and every aspect of the movie is enjoyable
  
  Ippo indha padatha theatrela release panninaakooda housefullaa Odum
  
  

• From: dsath on Wed Feb 28 6:12:50 2007.

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  ksen wrote:

  Ippo indha padatha theatrela release panninaakooda housefullaa Odum

  
  Absolutely true.
  
  

• From: Designer on Thu Mar 1 2:39:43 2007.

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  UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn !
  
  'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST
  
  

• From: ksen on Thu Mar 1 2:44:58 2007.

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• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 1 2:50:49 2007.

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  Designer wrote:

  UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST

  
  
  They normally telecast new movies. Right ?
  Anyway, Good to hear that
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Mar 1 3:35:54 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Designer wrote: UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST They normally telecast new movies. Right ? Anyway, Good to hear that

  
  
  Selva Sir
  
  Past , present and future ellam therindha oru KADAVUL ...NAAN KADAVUL neenga sir Adhaan sariyaana padamaa parthu list panni irukeenga.
  
  So, whats next in line ?
  
  Put some Puratchi thalaivar movie pls
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Thu Mar 1 3:35:57 2007.

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  I think its "Ungal ponnanaa kaigal punnagalama......udhavikku varalama.....sammatham varumaa.....santhegam thanaaa"
  

  Designer wrote:

  UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST

  
  

• From: Designer on Thu Mar 1 4:01:32 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  I think its "Ungal ponnanaa kaigal punnagalama......udhavikku varalama.....sammatham varumaa.....santhegam thanaaa" Designer wrote: UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST

  
  
  AF : ya I knew the lyrics; but modified it to suit my post
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Thu Mar 1 4:17:32 2007.

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  //Dig
  is ur avatar from oorkavalan ?
  //
  

  Designer wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: I think its "Ungal ponnanaa kaigal punnagalama......udhavikku varalama.....sammatham varumaa.....santhegam thanaaa" Designer wrote: UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST AF : ya I knew the lyrics; but modified it to suit my post

  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 1 4:43:00 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Selva Sir Past , present and future ellam therindha oru KADAVUL ...NAAN KADAVUL neenga sir Adhaan sariyaana padamaa parthu list panni irukeenga. So, whats next in line ? Put some Puratchi thalaivar movie pls

  
  
  Enna Thitturatha irundha Neradiyaavae thittidunga
  
  BTW, You can PM the movie to be discussed to me. It will be listed as your pick
  
  

• From: Designer on Thu Mar 1 5:11:36 2007.

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  its from 'Raja Chinna Roja'
  
  

  ajithfederer wrote:

  //Dig is ur avatar from oorkavalan ? // Designer wrote: ajithfederer wrote: I think its "Ungal ponnanaa kaigal punnagalama......udhavikku varalama.....sammatham varumaa.....santhegam thanaaa" Designer wrote: UngaL ponnaana manathu puNNaagalaama? uthavikku vanthuvittEn ! 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 3rd 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST AF : ya I knew the lyrics; but modified it to suit my post

  
  

• From: Designer on Thu Mar 1 7:31:03 2007.

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  Correction :
  
  'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 10th 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST (and not 3rd March)
  
  

• From: umaramesh on Thu Mar 1 8:08:04 2007.

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  Everyone acted quite naturally.
  
  Dining hall
  
  Nagesh/Baliah having lunch. Broker enteres with horoscope
  
  Broker: PAIYANUKKU YEKAAR KANAKA NELAM IRUKKU
  
  You have to see the Nagesh casual reply without lifting his head while eating
  
  Nagesh: PAIYAn ENNA EAAYER UZHARANA(meaning doing agriculture)
  
  While meeting sachu father:
  
  Nagesh: UNGA PONNU NADIGAYA AAGAITA ENGA APPA MATHIRI CAR/BANGALOW ELLAM VAANGALAM
  
  SACHU FATHER: AAPADIGANGALA
  
  NAGESH: AYYAVLVU ENN AVAR MUNNADI KAL MELLA KAL POTTU UTTKARALAM
  
  SACHU FATHER: VENDAM ATHU AVVALLVU MARIYADHA ILLA
  
  regards
  ramesh
  
  

• From: kb on Thu Mar 1 21:16:20 2007.

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  those two ladies with ravichandran..
  
  l1:antha kaara ennadi panrathu
  l2:kuppaila podu
  l1:idicha ivara
  l2:avaraiyum kuppaila podu
  ravichandran:neenga corporationla vela panreengala
  
  

• From: kb on Thu Mar 1 21:18:15 2007.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCYHAhbwvxU
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Mar 2 0:29:45 2007.

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  Designer wrote:

  Correction : 'Kaadhalikka nEramillai' will be telecast on March 10th 2007 (Sat) - Sun TV - 5pm IST (and not 3rd March)

  
  
  
  
  Those who had missed this movie before, dont miss it now
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 6 2:21:18 2007.

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  SINDHU BHAIRAVI
  
  Was Selected for discussion by "Movie Cop" for this week.
  
  Sindhu Bhairavi (1985) is a Tamil drama film directed by K. Balachander. It stars Suhasini, Sivakumar and Sulakshana. The film's score and soundtrack are composed by Ilaiyaraaja. The songs in the film were sung by Yesudas and K. S. Chithra.
  
  Cast
  * Suhasini
  * Sivakumar
  * Sulakshana
  * Delhi Ganesh
  * Janagaraj
  
  Awards
  
  The film has won the following awards since its release:
  
  1986 National Film Awards (India)
  
  * Won - Silver Lotus Award - Best Actress - Suhasini
  * Won - Silver Lotus Award - Best Music Direction - Ilayaraaja
  * Won - Silver Lotus Award - Best Female Playback Singer - K. S. Chithra
  
  Soundtrack
  
  The soundtrack features 7 songs composed by Ilayaraaja.
  
  * Kalai Vaaniyae - Yesudas
  * Mahaganapathim - Yesudas
  * Mari Mari - Yesudas
  * Mohum Ennum- Yesudas
  * Naan Oru Sindhu - K. S. Chithra
  * Paadariyen - K. S. Chithra
  * Thanni Thotti - Yesudas
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 6 2:25:11 2007.

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  Sorry for the delay friends
  Thanks for sharing your comments on "Kadhalikka Neramillai"
  
  

• From: swathy on Tue Mar 6 2:29:25 2007.

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  Top three in this movie
  
  1.Ilaiyaraja
  
  2.Location
  
  3.KJY + Chithra
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 2:32:51 2007.

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  top three would be KB, Sivakumar-Suhasini and then IR.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 6 2:33:16 2007.

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  It has been quite a long time since I watched this movie. Unable to recollect anything except a few songs
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 2:36:15 2007.

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  selva, its like I have just watched the movie yesterday. cant count the number of times I've watched it. was also the last movie in cinemas before the complete takeover by VCRs.
  
  endha scene'um marakka mudiyaadhadhu!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 6 2:37:11 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  selva, its like I have just watched the movie yesterday. cant count the number of times I've watched it. was also the last movie in cinemas before the complete takeover by VCRs. endha scene'um marakka mudiyaadhadhu!

  
  
  oh !! Neenga KB A/C la !! Idha naan maranthuttaen
  
  

• From: Jabroni on Tue Mar 6 2:38:57 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  top three would be KB, Sivakumar-Suhasini and then IR.

  
  
  
  
  SIVAKUMAR? why? he can't act.
  
  ONLY IR.
  
  then KB.
  
  

• From: Jabroni on Tue Mar 6 2:40:11 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  Top three in this movie 1.Ilaiyaraja 2.Location 3.KJY + Chithra

  
  
  righta seppuneer swathy
  
  but it was an OVER-RATED film, agree or disagree?
  
  suhasini got a NA, what for?
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Mar 6 3:06:12 2007.

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  One of the irritating movie by Kb..I am out of the discussion!
  
  

• From: swathy on Tue Mar 6 3:16:27 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  One of the irritating movie by Kb..I am out of the discussion!

  
  
  correct . naanum poitu adutha vaaram varen
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Mar 6 3:20:15 2007.

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  ah thanni thotti thedi vantha kannu kutti naan ..
  sarayatha oothu an jannala thaan saathu..
  
  vera ethuvum enaku nyabagam illa.. an one more.. paadariya padipariya song.. gudnight. cya later
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 3:28:10 2007.

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  A movie i used to watch 'n' number of times back then
  Good choice
  
  IR deserved the National Award and more for this incomparable score.
  This is a very much watchable movie even now inspite of the irritating (to me) presence of Suhasini...
  Yet another 'typical' Delhi Ganesh performance
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 3:29:25 2007.

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  Well Sindhu Bhairavi for me was quite good...it had two themes...1 highlighted a man's desire for another woman after his wife is found to be infertile and the events that come as a result of them..in a way a social message. Secondly it highlights the arrogance of a classical musician shadowed and humbled by the more vibrant and fun-loving style of his fan. And the way both themes are mixed is Kb style....if it was another director the movie might have possible overfocussed on one and become reduced on the latter leading to total confusion. Nothing to say about IR...he made sure the movie lived with his music..amazing
  
  

• From: hi on Tue Mar 6 3:39:42 2007.

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  Hulkster wrote:

  Well Sindhu Bhairavi for me was quite good...it had two themes...1 highlighted a man's desire for another woman after his wife is found to be infertile

  
  
  I dont think that's the reason.. sivakumar will get attarcted to suhasini for her music talent which his wife lacks.. "gyana suniyam" appadinu sivakumar thituvaru
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 3:49:17 2007.

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  kilo enna vilai?
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Mar 6 3:53:43 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  One of the irritating movie by Kb..I am out of the discussion!

  
  
  Sridhar! Ditto!
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 4:11:55 2007.

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  this thread is on celebrating selected movies. with due respect to thier views, why would ppl come and tell that they dont like this movie (or any other movie) in this thread?
  
  surely no movie can command 100% favour. there are likely to be large numbers of ppl who like and dislike a movie. pls dont be a wet blanket and spoil the enthusiasm of celebrants of a particular movie being discussed in this thread.
  
  

• From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Mar 6 4:23:27 2007.

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  thadaa?!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 6 4:46:19 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  this thread is on celebrating selected movies. with due respect to thier views, why would ppl come and tell that they dont like this movie (or any other movie) in this thread? surely no movie can command 100% favour. there are likely to be large numbers of ppl who like and dislike a movie. pls dont be a wet blanket and spoil the enthusiasm of celebrants of a particular movie being discussed in this thread.

  
  
  I second this. Thanks NOV for stepping in at the right time
  Friends,
  Instead of bashing the movie or the creator, we can discuss about many things about the movie like music, acting etc !
  You can express what you feel. But please make sure it won't hurt others. After all, it is going to be someone who will be listing their favorite movies Who knows - We may also face this kind of situation one day !
  
  Sorry if this sounds a bit rude !
  
  Let us continue on "SB"
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 5:01:05 2007.

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  two points about the songs: mahaa ganapathy doesnt have any mirudangam accompaniments while kalaivaaniyE is unique. anyone knows why?
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 5:03:54 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  two points about the songs: mahaa ganapathy doesnt have any mirudangam accompaniments while kalaivaaniyE is unique. anyone knows why?

  
  1) Mrudangist Delhi Ganesh is drunk
  (Violin Sarathy pinnittAru)
  2) Only ArOhaNam, no avarOhaNam
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 5:18:46 2007.

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• From: swathy on Tue Mar 6 5:20:27 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  NOV wrote: two points about the songs: mahaa ganapathy doesnt have any mirudangam accompaniments while kalaivaaniyE is unique. anyone knows why? 1) Mrudangist Delhi Ganesh is drunk (Violin Sarathy pinnittAru) 2) Only ArOhaNam, no avarOhaNam

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 6 6:22:47 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  NOV wrote: two points about the songs: mahaa ganapathy doesnt have any mirudangam accompaniments while kalaivaaniyE is unique. anyone knows why? 1) Mrudangist Delhi Ganesh is drunk (Violin Sarathy pinnittAru) 2) Only ArOhaNam, no avarOhaNam

  
  
  
  
  
  This is what makes certain people genius. The near perfection they take. Some mediocre Direcor/ MD could have missed that one.
  
  Kudos to KB and IR
  
  

• From: kalnayak on Tue Mar 6 6:25:01 2007.

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  'Sindhu Bairavi (SB)' and 'Mudhal Mariyaadhai (MM)' released at the same time. It was expected that MM to get few national awards. Best Lyricist award went to Vairamuthu for MM. Radha lost Best actress award to Suhasini. Lot of criticism for this . IR got best music director award for SB. SB is one among many of KB's two wives story. Classical music and hence IR's music played very important role in this film.
  
  

• From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 6:26:53 2007.

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  the theme of this movie is like renting a woman for delivering a baby... suhasini's dialogues in the climax are irritating.. but its an interesting movie.. with godly music
  
  

• From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Mar 6 6:37:25 2007.

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  Aandavan wrote:

  the theme of this movie is like renting a woman for delivering a baby...

  
  The movie focuses on the extra marital love affair of a music artist.. Almost all love affairs result in a baby (unless the guy/girl are impotent) and some of them end in separation.. So saying the theme of the movie is renting a woman for delivering a baby is inappropriate IMO..
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 9:22:04 2007.

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  deleted
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 9:22:49 2007.

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  hi wrote:

  Hulkster wrote: Well Sindhu Bhairavi for me was quite good...it had two themes...1 highlighted a man's desire for another woman after his wife is found to be infertile I dont think that's the reason.. sivakumar will get attarcted to suhasini for her music talent which his wife lacks.. "gyana suniyam" appadinu sivakumar thituvaru

  
  
  but i have separated the themes into two....if you add the second theme to the first theme you got the movie's main theme, i separated it to show how KB could handle his plots into a movie and weave them despite them being similar to his old movies
  
  

• From: great on Tue Mar 6 11:29:42 2007.

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  damn good movie !!!!
  
  Nice pick
  
  Shivakumar at his best . Music was topnotch
  
  Thanni thotti thedi vantha kannuti Naan
  
  Padariyaen padippariyaen
  
  Mari Mari song
  
  Delhi Ganesh was too good in this movie
  
  
  Ethana murai paathalam intha movie bore adikathu . The scene where shivakumar attends the concert of lesser know artist after consuming liquor was simply superb Bilahari-ya ithu
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 11:51:40 2007.

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  great wrote:

  The scene where shivakumar attends the concert of lesser know artist after consuming liquor was simply superb Bilahari-ya ithu

  
  Are you talking about "Yochana Kamala Lochana"?
  It is darbAr rAgam...
  
  

• From: great on Tue Mar 6 12:23:41 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  great wrote: The scene where shivakumar attends the concert of lesser know artist after consuming liquor was simply superb Bilahari-ya ithu Are you talking about "Yochana Kamala Lochana"? It is darbAr rAgam...

  
  
  yes Bilahari Unnal Mudiyum ThambiLa varum
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 12:26:21 2007.

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  great wrote:

  thinkfloyd wrote: great wrote: The scene where shivakumar attends the concert of lesser know artist after consuming liquor was simply superb Bilahari-ya ithu Are you talking about "Yochana Kamala Lochana"? It is darbAr rAgam... yes Bilahari Unnal Mudiyum ThambiLa varum

  
  eppadi pAthAlum namma Raaja dhAne!
  
  

• From: great on Tue Mar 6 12:29:08 2007.

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  Raja Raja thaan
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Mar 6 13:11:33 2007.

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  great wrote:

  Raja Raja thaan

  
  
  ooru, onnu koodittangaippa, onnu koodittangaippa
  
  Sindhu Bhairavi - genius of KB, National award winning score by Raaja, good performances from Sivakumar,Sulochana,Suahisini (i hate this female though i love her hubby )
  
  the things i liked in SB:
  
  1. the suhasini-mom plot - very bold for that period of time, i shuld say
  2. Sivakumar's action in initial scenes as a typical, egoistic carnatic genius
  3. Sulochana's innocent but irritating portrayal of a wife
  4. condemning the bias and prejudice that surrounds the concept of a concubine in Indian society
  5. Janakaraj and delhi ganesh comedy track
  6. IR's grand musical score
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Mar 6 13:48:59 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  great wrote: thinkfloyd wrote: great wrote: The scene where shivakumar attends the concert of lesser know artist after consuming liquor was simply superb Bilahari-ya ithu Are you talking about "Yochana Kamala Lochana"? It is darbAr rAgam... yes Bilahari Unnal Mudiyum ThambiLa varum eppadi pAthAlum namma Raaja dhAne!

  
  
  ThinkF
  
  Guess which Raga is applied for Nan oru sindhu kavadi sindhu ?
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 14:37:51 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  ThinkF Guess which Raga is applied for Nan oru sindhu kavadi sindhu ?

  
  Sindhu Bhairavi (My favorite)
  
  

• From: Surya on Tue Mar 6 15:46:02 2007.

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  A Classic!!
  
  It's one of those movies that I could watch over and over again and still not get tired of it!
  
  Balachander -
  
  Music = Like someone said Earlier, Raja Raja Thaan!
  
  Sivakumar = Sollanuma?
  
  Suhasani - As Usual. Awesome.
  
  The woman who plays Sivakumar's Wife -
  
  Even Minor Charecters would've done an awesome job in the movie like Delhi Ganesh etc.
  
  An All Time Favorite.
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Mar 6 16:10:29 2007.

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  Sindhu Bhairavi is a 4* movie, IMO. It's been at least more than a decade or so since I last saw this all time classic. The movie is very down to earth, simple and made a very good way! The ending where Suhasini gives her baby to Sivakumar/Sulochana and walks away might be little "controversial" or cinematic depending on how you look at it. But that's the only way a writer could end the story, IMO. To me, watching Sindhu bhairavi is a like reading a novel
  
  The highlights of the movie are:
  
  1. KB's directorial touches - You could see all over the place in this movie! This is a complete "director's movie".
  2. IR's music - IR proves that he is a musical genius with his touch of class carnatic numbers! It's both sad & embarrassing that he was not given a national award for this movie!
  3. The performance of all the characters in this movie... starting from the lead characters Sivakumar, Suhasini and Sulochana to all the supporting cast like Delhi Ganesh, Janakaraj etc. everyone did their job to perfection.
  4. The screen play and characterization - it's nice, simple and realistic.
  
  Couple of glitches in the movie:
  1. The movie takes a little bit of detour when it touches on Suhasini's character. While the detour itself is necessary from the script point of view to give some "background" to Suhasini's character it could have been made a little more precise.
  2. The character of Prathap Pothan could have either been avoided.
  
  Besides these two the movie is "near perfect" in screenplay, direction, music, performance of all the lead & supporting characters!
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 16:12:59 2007.

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  Movie Cop,
  IR did win a National Award for this film...
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Mar 6 16:37:47 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  Movie Cop, IR did win a National Award for this film...

  
  Oh is that right? I wrongly thought that IR has never won a National award! That's awesome! IR's music for Sindhu bhairavi was a gem and he thoroughly deserves a National Award. In fact there are lots of other Tamil movies where IR really deserved a National award but couldn't get one...
  
  

• From: Wibha on Tue Mar 6 22:06:44 2007.

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  a wonderful movie
  
  songs sollavea vendam
  
  i love it wen SK tells" sindhu illati bhairavi illa,sindhu bharavi illati paatu illa" da way he tells it is awesome............
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 22:46:43 2007.

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  Movie Cop wrote:

  thinkfloyd wrote: Movie Cop, IR did win a National Award for this film... Oh is that right? I wrongly thought that IR has never won a National award! That's awesome! IR's music for Sindhu bhairavi was a gem and he thoroughly deserves a National Award. In fact there are lots of other Tamil movies where IR really deserved a National award but couldn't get one...

  
  Infact, he has won 3 - Sagara Sangamam, Sindhu Bhairavi, Rudraveena...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 13 10:16:10 2007.

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  SALANGAI OLI
  
  Movie selected by : Great
  
  Salangai Oli (1983) is a Tamil film directed by K. Vishwanath. It was based upon the Telugu film, Sagara Sangamam. The soundtrack and score were composed by Ilaiyaraaja.
  
  
  Cast
  KamalHassan, JeyaPrasha, Sarath Babu etc
  
  
  PLOT
  Balakrishna (Kamal Hassan) is an economically poor multi-talented dancer, adept at Bharata Natyam, Kathakali, Kuchipudi etc.. and his dream is to perform at an All-India level competition. Madhavi (Jayaprada), a rich girl notices his talent and helps in getting him an opportunity to perform in an all-India competition. As he is all set to relaise his dream, his ageing mother passes away which denies the fulfillment of his dream. Slowly, he gets closer to Madhavi and the day he wishes to propose to her, he realises that she is already married and her husband left her. Now the husband wants to re-unite with her which forces him to sacrifice his love. Years pass by and he turns into a drunkard. Meanwhile Madhavi loses her husband. She comes to know of Balakrishna who the doctors say is going to die soon. So she takes care of his medical needs and requests Balakrishna to teach dance to her daughter. The movie ends with Madhavi's daughter becoming a great dancer and the death of Balakrishna giving a message "There is no end to art
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Mar 13 10:17:55 2007.

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  SALANGAI OLI - ****
  
  Cast: Kamalhassan, Jayaprada, S.P.Shailaja, Sarathbabu
  Music: Ilaiyaraja
  Direction: K.Vishwanath
  
  Kamalhassan's dance skills have always been well known but it is only in Salangai Oli that he gets the chance to exhibit them on the scale that he deserves. Dubbed from Saagara Sangamam, which was directed by K.Vishwanath(who was also responsible for arguably the most popular Telugu movie in Tamil, Sankarabharanam), the movie finds Kamalhassan in top form, whether dancing or emoting. As necessary for a musical with classical dance at its center, the movie features a great soundtrack from Ilaiyaraja with the songs being rendered superbly by S.P.Balasubramaniam. Unserstandably, the Telugu original won National awards for both of them.
  
  The story starts with Balu(Kamalhassan), an accomplished dancer in his younger days, writing a scathing review on the bharatanatyam performance of Shailaja(S.P.Shailaja). His past, where he was helped by Madhavi(Jayaprada), is shown in flashback, interspersed with his present. He had fallen in love with Madhavi and had even proposed to her, but circumstances prevented her from agreeing. Now his only thought is her well-being. Shailaja is none other than Madhavi's daughter and when Madhavi learns of Balu's whereabouts and condition, she arranges to have Shailaja learn dance under him. But she must take steps to prevent Balu from being aware the misfortune that has befallen her.
  
  The movie is a showcase for Kamalhassan's classical dance skills and he parades his wares gloriously. And the dancing is not limited to the song sequences. There are several shorter sequences which are designed for the same purpose. The scene where he points out the huge flaw in Shailaja's performance by repeating the step in difference dance forms is exhilarating. His making a non-Tamilian understand the reason for his visit through dance gestures is another such cute scene. Among the song sequences, the scene where he conducts an impromptu recital in the kitchen is very sweet.
  
  Ofcourse most of the song sequences are designed to bring out the best in him. Though Ilaiyaraja won a National award for the Telugu version, music if ofcourse universal and the lyrics blend in well enough to make us forget the songs' non-Tamil origins. Unlike Idhayathai Thirudaathey, where Mano took over for S.P.Balasubramaniam in Tamil, SPB renders the songs here too and gives us a hint of what won him the National award for the Telugu songs. Naadha Vinodhangal... is a nice mix of melody and Carnatic music. Mounamaana Neram... is slow and soothing while Thakita Thadhimi... is faster. Om Namachivaayaa... and Vedham Anuvilum... are perfectly suited for the dance performances. Vishwanath also makes a telling point about how a genuine artist is forced to sacrifice his talent at the altar of commercial cinema with the Vaan Pole Vannam... sequence
  
  There are nice laughs initially during Kamal's photo session with his young photographer and the resulting photos. Starting from this, the friendship between Kamal and Jayapradha is developed in a sweet but mature way. Her acts of kindness and Kamal's reactions to them are natural. His feelings for her are completely believable and the way he proposes to her is a nice touch. Another enviable relationship is the friendship between Kamal and Sarathbabu. Sarathbabu's role is designed to make everyone wish for a friend like him. He is always at hand, supporting him and never faulting him.
  
  Though the fact that a man could have only the well-being of a woman he once loved, in his heart(to the extent shown here) seems cinematic in theory, the way the character of Kamal is developed makes it utterly believable. Similarly, Jayapradha's act to hide her situation from him sounds a little corny but makes complete sense on screen. The climax is very strong and the way Shailaja breaks down on hearing Kamal talk about Jayapradha makes a very strong impact. The final scene is touching without being overly sentimental.
  
  Kamalhassan must have come perilously close to an acting award for his performance here. His enthusiasm for dancing as a youngster is as well brought out as his love for his mother. He melts our hearts as he tearfully clutches Jayapradha's hands and thanks her after seeing his photo in the dance program invitation. Jayapradha generates respect for her character while Sarathbabu effectively conveys his genuine affection for Kamal through his performance. Shailaja(SPB's sister) is believable as the arrogant dancer in her debut in front of the camera.
  
  Salangai Oli is music not just to our ears but to our hearts too.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Mar 13 10:21:19 2007.

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  Hmm..My all time most favourite movie ..ennatha sollurathu ..One can easily understand from this movie ,why kamalhassan is special.
  
  Salangai Oli -The movie made me Kamal Fan
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Mar 13 10:26:32 2007.

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  Padathulerndhu onnume nyabagam illae . Waiting for interesting inputs from others..
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 13 10:45:35 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Salangai Oli (1983) is a Tamil film directed by K. Vishwanath. It was based upon the Telugu film, Sagara Sangamam. The soundtrack and score were composed by Ilaiyaraaja.

  no!
  
  It is a telugu movie which was dubbed into Tamil.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 13 10:59:20 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Salangai Oli (1983) is a Tamil film directed by K. Vishwanath. It was based upon the Telugu film, Sagara Sangamam. The soundtrack and score were composed by Ilaiyaraaja. no! It is a telugu movie which was dubbed into Tamil.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 13 11:05:27 2007.

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  Sagara Sangamam
  
  Ada munnAdiyE sollapdAdha?
  [sollirundha mattum enna pannappora?-nu kekka koodadhu!]
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Mar 13 11:11:48 2007.

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  A classic from Kamal .
  
  Infact, one of the very best of Indian cinema !
  
  K.Vishwanath fully utilized Kamal’s skills in the art of dancing . Also , the youthful years of Kamal. Will look absolutely handsome .
  
  SaratBabu plays able foil as a good friend and well wisher
  
  The beautiful Jayapradha is all grace and class
  
  Music by the Maestro scintillating songs & lovely BGM
  
  Many superb scenes but I wish to highlight some :
  
  1. Mother about to die . kamal performs a mini dance . A very emotional scene. He loses a life time opportunity becaz of the death .
  2. Jayapradha shows the photos of various participants for a major event . Kamal browses each one and finally sees his nryutya posture like Nataraja and becomes emotional. Beautiful scene !
  3. When Kamal takes to task S.P.Shailaja for not having performed to perfection. As he displays each art of dancing, one mudra makes the coffee tumbler jump . After that, he gives a slap to her boy friend.
  4. The final scene. As SPS performs her dance as a mark of respect to guru Kamal, kamal is being shown dead and slowly both Jayapradha and Saratbabu take him away.
  
  AN OUTSTANDING MOVIE. COMPLETE IN ALL ASPECTS.
  
  
  
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Mar 13 11:14:34 2007.

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  Maestro Isainyani has applied many ragas
  
  1. Bala kanaka maya - Ataana
  
  2. Nadha vinodhangal - vasantha
  
  3. Om Namashivaya - Hindolam
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Mar 13 11:19:57 2007.

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  And not to forget, SUPERB SINGING BY S.P.B.
  
  Top class album by SPB.
  
  Listen to Vaan pole vannam kondu . Konjum kural.
  
  he becomes classical for Nadha vinodhangal
  and Vedam anudhinam .
  
  Ultimate is Mounamana neram . Both SJ and SPB , all class.
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 13 11:24:02 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Maestro Isainyani has applied many ragas 1. Bala kanaka maya - Ataana 2. Nadha vinodhangal - vasantha 3. Om Namashivaya - Hindolam

  
  vAn pOlE vaNNam - mOhanam
  "vEdham" - hamsAnandhi
  thakita thadhumi - shaNmugapriyA
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Mar 13 11:28:49 2007.

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  Some excellent scenes in the movie i like
  
  1) the scene where kamal dances to spb shailaja
  
  2) Beautiful chemistry between kamal and jayapradha....
  
  3) thakida thatumi song and the dance
  
  4) The photographical scenes between kamal and the small boy
  
  will add the rest later
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Mar 13 11:46:55 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  Nakeeran wrote: Maestro Isainyani has applied many ragas 1. Bala kanaka maya - Ataana 2. Nadha vinodhangal - vasantha 3. Om Namashivaya - Hindolam vAn pOlE vaNNam - mOhanam "vEdham" - hamsAnandhi thakita thadhumi - shaNmugapriyA

  
  
  
  Adadadadaaa Marandhe pochu ThinkF
  
  Thanks . Indha padam oru musical / barathnatyam special no ! And one can see high level of etiquete and respect for each other ( kamal and JP ).
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Mar 13 12:12:51 2007.

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  Wow !! Salangai Oli
  
  All scenes that Nakkeeran has listed are my favourites too. Those scenes have made me cry
  
  Yes it is a COMPLETE movie !! Great songs and great dancing. It's worth mentioning about Shylaja's singing in vaan pOlE vaNNam koNdu and naatha vinOthangaL .
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Mar 13 12:27:56 2007.

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  CAn anyone name any last recent movie which was in the lines of salangai oli?? i dont say there was one(infact, there cannot be one ), but any attempts?
  
  What is the uttermost important thing in this movie ehich makes it to live longer in the hearts of rasikas?
  
  1) The Hard-to-be seen Clasiical Dance and Classical Music
  2) Kamal & others' Performance
  3) Storyline
  4) All reasons above
  5) something apart from the above ??
  
  

• From: thimuru on Tue Mar 13 13:00:34 2007.

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  when Kamal sees Jayapradha ater thakita thadhumi ..........
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Tue Mar 13 13:54:33 2007.

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  salangai oli ...
  
  just saw it recently in one of the channles .. dont remember which one , but I cudnt take my eyes off the screen. Another spellbinding performance from KH and this film just shows why he is peerless. IF anyone can truly replicate KH performance in this film, he wud be KH's true match.
  
  Another notable aspect of the film is camerawork .... It was particularly good especially in the dance scenes. The continuosly moving camera angles, does more than its best to supplement the dance movements. A good example is in the scene where KH points out mistakes in SP shailaja in the office, the way in which the space available in the office was utilised is applaudable. And the camera was never static throughout.
  
  Only when the film ended, my father told me that the director is infact a cameraman... no wonder
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 13 16:56:52 2007.

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  thamizhvaanan wrote:

  A good example is in the scene where KH points out mistakes in SP shailaja in the office, the way in which the space available in the office was utilised is applaudable

  
  that scene was well done......
  Kamal's dance was ...too bad i never saw the ending ...but i know it now...
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Tue Mar 13 17:55:46 2007.

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  Salangai Oli is a beautiful movie. Kamal was just brilliant and for the zillionth time I guess shows how versatile he is.
  
  My fav scene is definitely when he is insulted for his article and retorts by doing a step from each dance to show that he does know a thing or two about dance.
  
  We were looking for the movie all over the place because my mom said I had to see it since I'm a dancer myself. I'm so happy that we finally found the DVD at a local Indian fair.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Mar 13 18:27:27 2007.

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  Quote:

  for the zillionth time I guess shows how versatile he is

  
  
  zillionth time?
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Tue Mar 13 19:04:47 2007.

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  thamiz wrote:

  Quote: for the zillionth time I guess shows how versatile he is zillionth time?

  
  
  Yup, if we were to count each scene of every one of his movies that's he been in W/e...you get what I mean...
  
  I would not describe myself as an ardent Kamal fan, although I know he's amazing. But this was one of his films that completely blew me away!
  
  

• From: Wibha on Tue Mar 13 19:18:28 2007.

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  SALANGAI OLI.............. wowwwwwwww what a movie...........KAMAL is da best!!!!!!! wen i saw his dance what a movie......... :thumsup: a very cool movie
  
  

• From: Designer on Tue Mar 13 19:28:39 2007.

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  Such a memorable film So many fav scenes, especially the one where Kamal dances on the well in pouring rain, and Jayapradha comes to save him from falling - both literally and figuratively
  
  
  thakida thathimi thakida thathimi thamthAnA
  idhaya oliyin jathiyil enathu thillAnA
  irudhayam adikkadi thudikkuthu enbEnA
  en kathai ezhuthida maRukkuthu en pEnA
  
  
  

• From: Querida on Tue Mar 13 20:45:44 2007.

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  I love this movie and repeat the same sentiments of Designer above...the dance performances wonderful! I love the part in which he shows her properly how to dance and then the song "Vandhan Gopalanae" parody about film gratuituous picturisation. Kamal's voice throughout his attempt to hold together his emotions, the part in which they both want to tell each other their feelings but cannot all priceless!
  
  my favourite part of the above song:
  
  idhu oru ragasiya naadagamae....
  alaigalil kulungidum oadam naanae
  baavamundu paavamillai vaazhkkaiyoadu koabamillai
  kaadhal ennai kaadhalikka villai!
  
  

• From: swathy on Tue Mar 13 22:48:23 2007.

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  Good pick
  
  recently I watched the movie in Jaya TV
  
  Excellent subject.
  
  K.Vishwanathirkku kodanu kodi nandrigal.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Mar 13 23:00:53 2007.

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  The best aspect of this movie - I don't feel like watching a dubbing movie.
  
  wonderful scenes ..
  
  * Kamal demonstrates various dances for Shilaja
  
  * kamal's reactions when he was included as a performer of dance festival
  
  * when kamal went to join a dance class ,he express his desire with abinayam to a girl.
  
  * All the dance sequences (especially nathavinothangal)
  
  * Thakida thathumi
  
  sollitee pohalam.
  
  Ilayarajaa .hmm ..Isai Gnani indeed.
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 13 23:42:04 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  The best aspect of this movie - I don't feel like watching a dubbing movie.

  
  but KV's next movie Sippikkul Muthu was the total opposite. Horrible dubbing. SP Bala for Kamal?
  
  one other movie where dubbing was excellent was Idhayathai Thirudathe.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Mar 13 23:50:51 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  but KV's next movie Sippikkul Muthu was the total opposite. Horrible dubbing. SP Bala for Kamal?

  
  
  Yeah .I heard kamal had some problem in dubbing for SM,so they used SPB .
  
  What I felt the difference is salangai oli songs ,when dubbed in Tamil ,if fits for the exact modulation and music .
  
  whenever I hear this line ,tears trying to roll.
  
  நடராஜர் பாதத்தில் தலை சாயுமா
  நாம் சிந்தும் கண்ணீரும் கரை மீறுமா
  கனவிலும்....
  நனவிலும்...
  கனவிலும் நனவிலும்
  அழகிய பரதங்கள் ஆட.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Mar 14 0:53:37 2007.

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  Oh so this thread is where SINTHU BHAIRAVI , which was eating all our hubber's brains for past few days, cropped up eh
  
  I wont rate the movie as MY FAVOURITE
  
  Not one of KB's best, according to me.
  
  Though nothing much can be pointed wrong about the direction, story or screen play, or even ACTING by any of them... (I mean everythign was good)
  
  but...
  
  SIMPLY SOMETHING did not gel with my mindset.
  
  LOVED its MUSIC would be an understantement.
  
  IR crowned the movie
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 14 1:03:35 2007.

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  SP,
  Hope your comments are for 'Sindu Bhairavi' ..Now we moved to next movie 'Salangai Oli' .Expecting your views on salangai Oli.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Mar 14 1:06:41 2007.

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  Salangai oli
  
  
  
  WORDS FAIL ME.
  
  What a movie!
  
  What characters!
  
  KAMAL SWEEPS the show... (nothing new bout it)
  
  "pancha boothangaLum muga vadivaaga",
  
  kamal would try to gel with the character, whence his thoughts would be on NOTHING BUT DANCE...
  
  
  SONGS AND MUSIC JUST RULE!!!!!!!!!
  
  Movie makes me feel heavy at heart.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Mar 14 1:10:41 2007.

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  Some fav scenes..
  
  * Wonderful and polished way of expressing love
  
  * Proving his dance abilities to shailaja quietly and wordlessly BY PERFORMING THE DANCE right before her.
  
  * Jayapradha's wordless everexisting love, shown in THE MOST RESPECTABLE way.
  
  * The scene where kamal performs for his MOM
  
  * his anger on film director for askin him to perform not so acceptable dance steps
  
  * his not practical way of thinking and living
  
  can go on and on... ALMOST EVERY SCENE in this movie
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 14 1:29:10 2007.

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  Aandavar won the Best Actor award in an Asian Film festival for this (and Swathi Muthyam.. for Virumaandi - Best Film)...
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 14 1:31:47 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  Aandavar won the Best Actor award in an Asian Film festival for this (and Swathi Muthyam.. for Virumaandi - Best Film)...

  
  
  More info pls..when,where ,film festival name etc.
  
  

• From: Jabroni on Wed Mar 14 1:32:22 2007.

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  I only watched it for one reason: isai thendral, isai mazhai, isai aruvi, isai vayal, isai malai, isai mozhi, isai kuudal, isai manai, isai gnani, isai'in kadaisi tharipidam, the maestro Ilayarajah, the undisputed KING of GODS of MUSIC of tamil cinema
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 14 1:54:19 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  thinkfloyd wrote: Aandavar won the Best Actor award in an Asian Film festival for this (and Swathi Muthyam.. for Virumaandi - Best Film)... More info pls..when,where ,film festival name etc.

  
  SS - 1983, SM - 1985 Asian Film Festival, don't now the venue
  Virumaandi - Puchon International Film Festival (S.Korea), 2004
  
  

• From: Alek Niranjan on Wed Mar 14 4:22:21 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  joe wrote: thinkfloyd wrote: Aandavar won the Best Actor award in an Asian Film festival for this (and Swathi Muthyam.. for Virumaandi - Best Film)... More info pls..when,where ,film festival name etc. SS - 1983, SM - 1985 Asian Film Festival, don't now the venue Virumaandi - Puchon International Film Festival (S.Korea), 2004

  
  
  I think This is the first telugu movie which nominated for Oscar. Kamal,IR and K.Viswanath got many Andhra State awards for this moive.
  
  

• From: ab_123 on Wed Mar 14 19:25:21 2007.

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  Salangai oli!!!!
  
  One of my FAV movies...
  
  Loved KAMAL
  Loved the songs (IR and SPB rock!)
  Loved KAMAL
  Well directed movie
  Loved the dancing (esp by KAMAL)
  and did I mention..LOVED KAMAL!!!!!!!!
  
  
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Mar 15 0:45:54 2007.

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  Saagara Sangamam - Salangai Oli
  Seems telugu nae has a different maaning - the meet of grand oceans ???
  Swaathi Muthyam - Sippikkul Muththu
  what soed the telugu name mean?
  
  

• From: Querida on Thu Mar 15 0:54:09 2007.

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  ab_123 wrote:

  Salangai oli!!!! One of my FAV movies... Loved KAMAL Loved the songs (IR and SPB rock!) Loved KAMAL Well directed movie Loved the dancing (esp by KAMAL) and did I mention..LOVED KAMAL!!!!!!!!

  
  
  awww that's cute ab_123
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 15 1:24:11 2007.

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  Yadho Raja Thadho Praja
  
  is this the say that Kamal says to SPShailaja after quoting her mistakes ..... ?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 15 11:19:30 2007.

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  SALANGAI OLI
  
  The film is told in flashback about the life of Balu, an eccentric dancer turned critic. Balu had been an aspiring dancer with dreams of creating a unified classical dance form. He is forever in search of a guru to teach him the nuances of the art. His friend, Sarathbabu, stands like a pillar of support to him. A chance meeting with Archana, a rich and lonely girl, kindles friendship between the two. Archana is very caring towards Balu and makes quiet efforts to help his career. She even arranges for his performance at an all India dance festival.
  
  
  Through all these heady events, their friendship blossoms into love. Just when Balu proposes to Archana unaware of her sad past, it revisits her to prevent her from saying yes. Just before Balu leaves for the festival, his mother also dies. The twin tragedies wreck Balu and he is never in control of his life anymore. He hits the bottle and lives like a vagabond. Fate brings him close to Archana again. He writes a scathing review of Shailaja’s dance performance without knowing that she is none other than Archana’s daughter. This time Archana does not reveal her presence but tries to make Balu comfortable.
  
  
  The film showcased the excellent dancing abilities of Kamal Hassan. Although he is not a trained dancer, his performance had grace and majesty. The scene where he points out the mistakes in Shailaja’s dance is memorable. Jayapradha matched him step for step and their dance duet was simply superb. Jayapradha’s quiet portrayal of a tormented woman was such a relief from the weeping and wailing sentiment often seen in our movies. Sarathbabu’s role of a true friend was also etched well.
  
  The central theme of the film is that classical dance always remains pure and free from corrupting influences. A true artist pursues art for its own sake and never hankers for money. Balu took his artistic journey very seriously and that is why he could not make compromises. In the end, his true artistry remains unsung.
  
  K. Viswanath is a noted director and his excellent screenplay portrays subtle and underplayed emotions. Every aspect, whether romance, sentiment or comedy has a genteel quality. Even the portrayal of crass commercialism in film dance has a touch of humor. Ilayaraja’s music has some fantastic songs and his background score is matched with the different moods of the film.
  
  Salangai oli is a film which is to be seen when one wants to reconnect to the inward looking values of artistic pursuit.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 15 11:44:53 2007.

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  Just a gentle reminder to our dear hubbers:
  
  Hubbers who want a particular movie to be listed for discussion can send a PM to me. It can be any movie which you people liked. Whenever you see a movie, you might have come across a few interesting things and you may be keen to share these things. This thread provides the same platform for you.
  
  The movies will be listed in a random manner.
  
  Veteran hubbers can also suggest a few movies of the late cine personalities which can throw more light on the personalities and their greatness. It can be something like remembering them. Someone who used to sit at the back and do their job. Someone who went unnoticed inspite of their brilliant work.
  
  Such movies will be listed as SPECIAL PICKS. For e.g., if we have a birth anniversary / dearth anniversary of PERSONALITY X, hubbers can recommend a movie of them which will be listed as a special pick.
  
  IF you have further comments on improving the process and the discussions relevant to this thread, feel free to post them here.
  
  Thanks for your cooperation !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Mar 15 13:30:17 2007.

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  Salangai oli -- one of my favorite KH movies.
  
  My favorite scene is the one in which KH sees his name in that invitation alongside greats. Superb acting and excellent background score.
  
  I wish I could say more but have not seen the movie lately
  
  

• From: Erica on Thu Mar 15 14:13:38 2007.

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  EXCELLENT movie and Kamal's performance in every single frame was simply Outstanding
  
  One of my favourite scene
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAyqwT2E74
  
  The climax song(vedham) was so beautiful....where he teaches shylaja.
  
  OMG...what a perfectionist?
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Thu Mar 15 14:18:31 2007.

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  erica may be u can offer the telugu interpretation of the words sagara sangamam and swathy muthyam
  

  Erica wrote:

  EXCELLENT movie and Kamal's performance in every single frame was simply Outstanding One of my favourite scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAyqwT2E74 The climax song(vedham) was so beautiful....where he teaches shylaja. OMG...what a perfectionist?

  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Mar 15 14:58:40 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  NOV wrote: but KV's next movie Sippikkul Muthu was the total opposite. Horrible dubbing. SP Bala for Kamal? Yeah .I heard kamal had some problem in dubbing for SM,so they used SPB .

  
  
  The same repeated in "Paasavalai" too
  
  
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Mar 15 15:12:58 2007.

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  thinkfloyd wrote:

  Nakeeran wrote: Maestro Isainyani has applied many ragas 1. Bala kanaka maya - Ataana 2. Nadha vinodhangal - vasantha 3. Om Namashivaya - Hindolam vAn pOlE vaNNam - mOhanam "vEdham" - hamsAnandhi thakita thadhumi - shaNmugapriyA

  
  
  ennamo solreengannu mattum puriyuthu
  
  

• From: Surya on Thu Mar 15 19:14:05 2007.

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  ab_123 wrote:

  Kamal is one actor that when he does a crying scene, you really feel the pain...

  
  
  Aboorva Sagodharargal - When Sri Vidhya Accepts that her son has a Defect. WOW! I almost Cried in that Scene.
  
  Salangai Oli is also a good example. Every movie of his for that matter. Even in Vasool Raja, when he cries after Zakhir's Death. That was very well done.
  
  

• From: Alek Niranjan on Fri Mar 16 4:48:43 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  erica may be u can offer the telugu interpretation of the words sagara sangamam and swathy muthyam Erica wrote: EXCELLENT movie and Kamal's performance in every single frame was simply Outstanding One of my favourite scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAyqwT2E74 The climax song(vedham) was so beautiful....where he teaches shylaja. OMG...what a perfectionist?

  
  
  
  Federer
  
  Sagara Sangamam -> Kadalgalin Sangamamam
  
  Swathy Muthyam -> Pure Pearl
  
  

• From: Alek Niranjan on Fri Mar 16 6:16:43 2007.

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  The movie was very huge hit in Andhra. The success was mainly due to the support provided by the Family audience.
  
  And this movie also faired very well in TN,KN(I am not sure about Kerala).
  
  I watched this movie 4 times in Vijayawada during it release with my Grandparents.Vijayawada it ran 200 days there.
  
  
  Very good direction by Kala Thapsvi "K.Viswanth"
  
  Very good music by Mastero
  
  Great acting by Kamal
  
  
  My Favorite sceanes in this movie.
  
  1.The way he acted while critisizing the Sylaja's dance in the
  begininng. And he showed what the exact dance is and Said "Natya Mayoori". Excellant Expression
  
  2.After the song "Vaan Pole vannam kondu vandhai gopalane", he was very sad and explain how he wanted to dance for
  that song.
  
  3. The scene in which Kamal sees his name in the inviation
  with other great Dancers. Fantastic acting
  
  4. Mounamane Neram - Song - Nice song and romance between the lead pair expressed by very well.
  
  
  
  
  5.Cilmax Song and The scens where Kamal taught Shilaja
  
  This film made by a die hard Kamal fan.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Mar 16 6:26:09 2007.

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  An angry young man.
  
  An angrier old man.
  
  A dancer.
  
  You might think that these are three characters. Nope, it's one man, that was the man Kamal plays in Salangai Oli. What a ride the movie is! Emotional roller coaster that leave you thinking and brooding for weeks, months, etc.
  
  Kamal was what? 29 years old at that time? 8 Years since he started playing lead roles? And here he is immersed in the role like a veteran. Of course, the ...what do you call...National Award? They ignored him.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Mar 16 6:56:38 2007.

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  groucho, we expected more from you, about this movie, like what you do to other kamal posts
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Mar 16 7:43:38 2007.

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  Well, it's nice to have your post appreciated. But I don't remember long posts in Kamal's thread. You usually find them in NT.
  
  Anyway, here's my take on Salangai Oli:
  
  This movie can only be done with Kamal alone. Put any other actors, and the film will fail. The charisma, the energy, the emotional output, the ability to grab audience by the collar and shake him or her and give them a roller coaster of a ride. That is required for the lead role in this movie, and Kamal does it...almost effortlessly.
  
  Which scene do you want me to talk about? The dance sequences? The scene when the mother dies? His various disappointments? The dance on the well? The outburst of an old journalist?
  
  Rarely has Tamil films explored a single charcter in such fashion that director Viswanath did in this film (and later in Sippikkul Muthu and Pasavalai).
  
  One of the most difficult task for a filmaker is to engage the audience. Many fail to achieve this; even if they continuously think so. Vishvanath did a brilliant job in tracking the life of a passionate but failed artist.
  
  If there is one single expression you can use for the main character in this movie, it will be disappointment. For Kamal's character, life is a series of disappointments; where else to turn to but the only source that gives you that temporary detachment from reality - bottle.
  
  From a handsome young dance to a bitter alcoholic old man. This is one journey that we will never want be in. This is a journey Kamal and Vishvanath undertook for us. It's painful to watch, but along the journey there were many pleasant incidents, beautiful music, brilliant dances (I was told tweaked for cinema audience) and most importantly heartbreaking performances.
  
  Speaking of heartbreak, Jaya Pradha, while being painfully beautiful, gives a wonderful performance - a crutch to kamal at first, and then the source of the crunch in his heart.
  
  Ilayaraja is Ilayaraja. My favourite song of this track is Veedham. Powerful song. Powerful music. I'm getting goosebump as I write this.
  
  Fuuny enough, much through the first half an hour or so, you actually forget that it is a movie dubbed from Telugu. That is the impact of the performances.
  
  I'd revisit this movie any time. It's worth it. It's a movie that one should never forget. Especially Kamal, if he were to look back and figure out how in hell he became one of the best actors around (I said 'one of the' not to invite debate)
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Mar 16 10:22:44 2007.

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  nice of u groucho, now it looks good
  
  http://myspb.blogspot.com/2006/10/blog-post_19.html
  
  this link is alread y posted, good rev on Salangai Oli
  
  

• From: Erica on Sat Mar 17 12:38:51 2007.

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  Alek Niranjan wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: erica may be u can offer the telugu interpretation of the words sagara sangamam and swathy muthyam Federer Sagara Sangamam -> Kadalgalin Sangamamam Swathy Muthyam -> Pure Pearl

  
  
  AF, Alex has given the exact meaning
  
  

• From: great on Sun Mar 18 2:17:27 2007.

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  PadamNa ithu padam oru chinna varutham ithu direct tamil movie illa .
  
  Kamal
  Illayaraja
  Vishwanath
  Jayapradha
  
  
  
  
  Its easily one of the best movie of KH .
  
  

• From: thimuru on Sun Mar 18 8:06:45 2007.

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  the rerecording piece when jayapadha starts thinking abt the past....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Mar 19 22:25:08 2007.

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  as Selva is stuck with some important personal work, i'm pleased tp inform that movie of the week is -
  
  Enga Veettu Pillai
  
  avar aanai ittar, adhu nadandhadhu
  
  The man of millenium - MGR in the movie of the century - Enga veettu pillai
  
  (pls discuss, also someone give a intro....i have to sleep )
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Mar 19 22:27:55 2007.

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  Movie Name: Enga Veettu Pillai
  Cast: MGR , Saroja Devi , Nambiar , Nagesh , Rangarao , Pandaribai , Thangavelu , Rathna
  Music: Viswanathan-Ramamurthy
  Direction: Chanakya
  Rating: 3.0 / 5.0
  Review By: Balaji B
  
  
  Movies where the hero has a dual role have dealt with a variety of themes.While the characters the actor portrays are typically brothers, we have hadmovies where one of them is good and the other is evil(Uthama Puthiran) and movies where both are similar and switch places. Enga Veettu Pillai, with MGR in a dual role,distinguishes between the characters by making one a coward and the other abrave man. It has fun by putting the brave man in the coward's place and making himteach a lesson to the people around him. It is an enjoyable entertainer and was oneof MGR's biggest hits.
  Ramu(MGR) is the cowardly one - the heir to all riches of Poonjolai jamin. He hasbeen raised that way by his uncle Narendran(Nambiar). Ramu shivers at the verymention of his uncle's name and a whiplash is Narendran's favorite form of punishment.Narendran wants to get Ramu married to Leela(Saroja Devi) but she is turned off byhis cowardice. Ilango(MGR) is a jobless young man, prone to pick a fight and for this reason, the cause of trouble for his mother. Circumstances lead to Ramu and Ilango taking each others' place. Ilango teaches a lesson to Narendran while Ramu learns the ways of the world.
  
  Nowadays, the theme of mixed identities invariably leads to comedies with the laughsbeing raised through the ways the look-alikes don't fit into their new environments. The'fish out of water' scenario is the one most often used. But here the two MGRs fitinto their new roles quite well. The fun is in the way the others around them reactto the changes in them. Ilango taking the place of Ramu is easily the hands-down winnerin this. The first instance where MGR slaps Nambiar is memorable and exhilaratingwith the reactions of Nambiar and Thangavelu perfectly conveying their surprise.Ofcourse the Naan Aanaiyittaal... song sequence is the pinnacle with MGR givingNambiar a taste of his own medicine.
  
  The position of Ramu(in Ilango's place) is only marginally interesting as the listless romance with Rathna is the only major thing happening. Thankfully, theactions of Ilango are concentrated upon as he is wooed by Saroja Devi and hatedby Nambiar and co. The revelation of the switch is handled neatly and the emotionsof the heroines are not carried on for too long. But the subsequent story thatdigs into the pasts of the two look-alikes is confusing and extends the movieunnecessarily.
  
  One interesting thing to see in older movies in how well they stand up when watchedtoday. Though Enga Veettu Pillai is undeniably entertaining even today, there do exist a few instances which stand out awkwardly. Special effects which make thedual roles possible don't compare favorably even to the effects in Uthama Puthiran. The subservient role of women is quiteobvious in the way Saroja Devi, who is introduced as a 'modern' woman, gleefullyaccepts the demand of a dowry. The lament of Pandaribai about wanting to die atNambiar's feet after he has slapped her and walked out is quite irritating. On theother hand, the fact that the entire meal that MGR has in the hotel costs only sixRupees is bound to make people who lived then sigh in nostalgia!
  
  Nagesh was a permanent feature in movies released during those times and is at handhere too. His mispronounciation of words is quite funny at several places and leadsto many quick laughs. But the extended sequences, like the one where Thangavelu discovers his romance with his daughter, are a lot less funnier.
  
  MGR distinguishes well between the two roles though it is quite obvious he is more atease as the brave Ilango. His strict adherence to his enduring 'good samaritan' imageis obvious in the way he apologises before uttering a single lie to his mother andspeaks out against dowry. Saroja Devi is more irritating than endearing with herattempts to be cute. Nambiar plays the role he has played to perfection in countlessother MGR movies. Needless to say, the movie has some great songs. Kumari PenninUllathile... and Maandhoppu Kaavalkaara... are the melodious duets. Naan Aanaiyittaal... has enough political overtones that show how effectivelyMGR used the medium of cinema.
  
  
  http://www.thenisai.com/tamil/movies/evpillai.htm
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Mon Mar 19 22:35:24 2007.

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  Erica wrote:

  Alek Niranjan wrote: ajithfederer wrote: erica may be u can offer the telugu interpretation of the words sagara sangamam and swathy muthyam Federer Sagara Sangamam -> Kadalgalin Sangamamam Swathy Muthyam -> Pure Pearl AF, Alex has given the exact meaning

  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Mon Mar 19 22:41:09 2007.

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  EVP is an amazing movie, my fav MGR movie of all time..
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Mar 19 22:52:01 2007.

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  SONGS are
  
  naan aanaiyitaal adhu nadandhu vittaal
  
  kumari pennin ullaththilE kudi irukka naan vara vEndum
  
  naan maanthOppil nindrirundhEn avan maampazham vEndum endraan
  
  malarukku thendral pagai aanaal
  
  pen pOnaal indha pen pOnaal
  
  kangalum kaavadi sindhaagattum
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Mar 20 1:26:00 2007.

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  I think ,Enga veetu Pillai will be telecasted this saturday.Last week it was Thillana moganambal.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 20 1:34:46 2007.

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  One of the Clean entertainer
  
  MGR was the best choice for the movie and he did with perfection as a coward and angry young man.
  
  The place where both the MGR's go and eat in the same hotel was
  
  Not to forget the Songs.
  
  That too, Naan Aanayittal, Antha Paataai ezhuthiyavar theerkatharisi
  
  who wrote that ? Kannadasan / Vaali
  
  
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Mar 20 1:43:51 2007.

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  Theres one very funny scene in the movie, Nambiar introduce his mom to Saro's Father..
  i dont remember exact line..
  
  Nambiar : Ivangathan engamma
  Father: Innuma savala?
  
  
  
  i loved the coward MGR, he was so cute...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 20 2:22:57 2007.

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  Raikkonen wrote:

  i loved the coward MGR, he was so cute...

  
  
  
  
  Saroja Devi's father was Rangarao
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 20 2:31:44 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  MGR was the best choice for the movie and he did with perfection as a coward and angry young man.

  I hope you are aware that Kamal's Thoongaathe Thambi Thoongathe was a remake of EVP.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 20 2:34:07 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  That too, Naan Aanayittal, Antha Paataai ezhuthiyavar theerkatharisi

  vaaliba kavignar, mister vaali
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 20 2:40:17 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: MGR was the best choice for the movie and he did with perfection as a coward and angry young man. I hope you are aware that Kamal's Thoongaathe Thambi Thoongathe was a remake of EVP.

  
  
  MGR was not a drunkard in the movie
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 20 2:41:07 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: That too, Naan Aanayittal, Antha Paataai ezhuthiyavar theerkatharisi vaaliba kavignar, mister vaali

  
  
  I know But still had a doubt
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Mar 20 2:56:13 2007.

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  hotel idli saapadra scene is gud
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Mar 20 3:34:25 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  MGR was not a drunkard in the movie

  and neither was Kamal. If I am not wrong, he was given drugs....
  
  anyway, MGR took care of his image and never appeared drunk in any movie. In the only drunk scene - Oli Vilakku - neeyum manidhanaa, he was forced to drink.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Mar 20 10:54:50 2007.

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  kb wrote:

  hotel idli saapadra scene is gud

  
  
  Thats the ONLY scene I remember from the movie and of course the scenes before the naan aanayittAl. Don't remember the movie at all to post a comment or two
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Mar 20 13:38:00 2007.

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  One interesting tidbit about EVP:
  Vaali wrote the lyrics for "Naan Aanai eittal..." song (excuse me for my spelling ). He mentioned in one of his interviews that he originally starting writing the lyrics along the lines of "Naan Arasan Aanal..." keeping in mind MGR's "demi-god" status among the masses. After reviewing the lyrics, MGR suggested Vaali to remove the word "Arasan" from it as it would be politically inappropriate at that time!
  
  It's nearly more than 2 decades since I saw EVP hence couldn't recall much from the movie except the songs which were all "gems"
  
  Thirumaran - Nov is correct. KH's TTT certainly looks inspired from MGR's EVP if not a "soft remake" of MGR's EVP!
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Mar 21 0:25:32 2007.

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  Movie Cop wrote:

  Thirumaran - Nov is correct. KH's TTT certainly looks inspired from MGR's EVP if not a "soft remake" of MGR's EVP!

  
  
  I was aware if that
  
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Wed Mar 21 0:37:31 2007.

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  Evergreen movie,
  
  i like that Innocent MGR acting
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Mar 21 0:39:06 2007.

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  Movie Cop wrote:

  One interesting tidbit about EVP: Vaali wrote the lyrics for "Naan Aanai eittal..." song (excuse me for my spelling ). He mentioned in one of his interviews that he originally starting writing the lyrics along the lines of "Naan Arasan Aanal..." keeping in mind MGR's "demi-god" status among the masses. After reviewing the lyrics, MGR suggested Vaali to remove the word "Arasan" from it as it would be politically inappropriate at that time! It's nearly more than 2 decades since I saw EVP hence couldn't recall much from the movie except the songs which were all "gems" Thirumaran - Nov is correct. KH's TTT certainly looks inspired from MGR's EVP if not a "soft remake" of MGR's EVP!

  
  
  arent u aware of ramarajan movies?half of them are EVP remakes.several movies made use of EVP.remember manal kayiru?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Mar 21 0:50:51 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  arent u aware of ramarajan movies?half of them are EVP remakes.several movies made use of EVP.remember manal kayiru?

  
  
  Is not Manal Kayiru Visu movie
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 21 4:32:28 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: arent u aware of ramarajan movies?half of them are EVP remakes.several movies made use of EVP.remember manal kayiru? Is not Manal Kayiru Visu movie

  
  
  Yes,It is Visu movie..Btw,manal kayirukkum EVP -kku ennaiya sampantham
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Mar 21 4:55:21 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Btw,manal kayirukkum EVP -kku ennaiya sampantham

  oru vElai rendum color padam engira otrumaiyaa irukkumO...
  
  

• From: thimuru on Wed Mar 21 5:25:00 2007.

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  [quote="NOV"]

  joe wrote:

  Btw,manal kayirukkum EVP -kku ennaiya sampantham

  oru vElai rendum color padam engira otrumaiyaa irukkumO... [/quote
  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: thimuru on Wed Mar 21 5:27:34 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: arent u aware of ramarajan movies?half of them are EVP remakes.several movies made use of EVP.remember manal kayiru? Is not Manal Kayiru Visu movie

  
  
  rr mgr fan...so no surprise
  
  manal kayiru had different story line
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Mar 21 6:02:23 2007.

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  Hi Selva Sir
  
  Thanks a lot for picking my choice !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 1:47:43 2007.

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  Nakeeran,
  You are welcome.
  
  Maddy - You forgot to include "Nakeeran"'s name in the intro post. Anyway, thanks !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 1:50:37 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: MGR was the best choice for the movie and he did with perfection as a coward and angry young man. I hope you are aware that Kamal's Thoongaathe Thambi Thoongathe was a remake of EVP.

  
  
  There are many more ! IF I could remember, there is a movie which is almost a 100% remake of EVP ! Even the Nambiyaar - MGR episode was an exact copy !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 2:32:14 2007.

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  Seems EVP itself is a remake of NTR film RAMUDU BHEEMUDU (1964)
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Mar 22 2:35:00 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Seems EVP itself is a remake of NTR film RAMUDU BHEEMUDU (1964)

  
  
  Ofcourse ,both Produced by Ramanaidu.
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Thu Mar 22 2:44:03 2007.

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  Watch EVP in the below link
  
  http://mgrmovies.blogspot.com/2007/02/enga-veettu-pillai-1965.html
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 2:53:28 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Seems EVP itself is a remake of NTR film RAMUDU BHEEMUDU (1964) Ofcourse ,both Produced by Ramanaidu.

  
  
  This Ramanaidu runs E TV now ! Right
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Mar 22 2:58:21 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: selvakumar wrote: Seems EVP itself is a remake of NTR film RAMUDU BHEEMUDU (1964) Ofcourse ,both Produced by Ramanaidu. This Ramanaidu runs E TV now ! Right

  
  
  Now I confused EVP produced by Vijaya combines (who produced UzhaipaaLi and Nammavar).Not sure Ramanaidu is the same.
  
  

• From: villan007 on Thu Mar 22 3:01:48 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Now I confused EVP produced by Vijaya combines (who produced UzhaipaaLi and Nammavar).Not sure Ramanaidu is the same.

  
  
  thamirabharani producer thanE uzhaipaLi producer.. naagi reddi
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 3:03:35 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Now I confused EVP produced by Vijaya combines (who produced UzhaipaaLi and Nammavar).Not sure Ramanaidu is the same.

  
  
  Vijaya combines belongs to NAAGI REDDY ! RamaNaidu is a different person I think
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Thu Mar 22 3:08:10 2007.

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  for futher details on the movie go to
  
  
  http://mgrmovies.blogspot.com/2007/02/enga-veettu-pillai-1965.html
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Thu Mar 22 7:12:17 2007.

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  One Never gets tired of watching it, time and again.
  
  I am yet to conclude whether its
  
  the story (aaLmaraatta kathai always has a kick)
  
  or
  
  music
  
  or MGR acting (shall we safely call it PRESCENCE or STAR VALUE?)
  
  but yes, I love watcihng the movie.
  
  Its but natural for every normal person, to get a thrill, to watch dare devil personality take over the villains and flabberghast them with interchanged personalities!
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Thu Mar 22 7:21:16 2007.

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  and yes, I am not doing jsutice if I dont talk about MUSIC.
  
  MGR movie's music album, steals the show as usual.
  
  __
  
  MEANINGFUL lyrics!
  
  Malarukku thendral pagai aanal athu malarnthida kathiravan thunai undu
  nilavukku vaanam pagai aanal athu
  nadanthida veru thunai Ethu...
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Mar 22 8:46:14 2007.

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  My take on EVP :
  
  ENGA VEETTU PILLAI :
  
  Playing 2 characters is always a big challenge to an artist. Not everyone succeeded in distinguishing the characters.
  
  While the characters the actor portrays are typically brothers, we have had movies where one of them is good and the other is evil (Uthama Puthiran) and movies where both are similar and switch places. Enga Veettu Pillai, with MGR in a dual role, distinguishes between the characters by making one a coward and the other a brave man. It has fun by putting the brave man in the coward's place and making him teach a lesson to the people around him. It is an enjoyable entertainer and was one of MGR's biggest hits.
  
  Ramu(MGR-1) is the cowardly one - the heir to all riches of Poonjolai jamin. He has been raised that way by his uncle Narendran(Nambiar). Ramu shivers at the very mention of his uncle's name and a whiplash is Narendran's favorite form of punishment. Narendran wants to get Ramu married to Leela(Saroja Devi) but she is turned off by his cowardice.
  
  Ilango(MGR-2) is a jobless young man, prone to pick a fight and for this reason, the cause of trouble for his mother. Circumstances lead to Ramu and Ilango taking each others' place. Ilango teaches a lesson to Narendran while Ramu learns the ways of the world.
  
  Nowadays, the theme of mixed identities invariably leads to comedies with the laughs being raised through the ways the look-alikes don't fit into their new environments. The 'fish out of water' scenario is the one most often used. But here the two MGRs fit into their new roles quite well. The fun is in the way the others around them react to the changes in them. Ilango taking the place of Ramu is easily the hands-down winner in this.
  
  The first instance where MGR slaps Nambiar is memorable and exhilarating with the reactions of Nambiar and Thangavelu perfectly conveying their surprise. Ofcourse the Naan Aanaiyittaal... song sequence is the pinnacle with MGR giving Nambiar a taste of his own medicine.
  
  Wonder what was running in his mind when MGR sang NAAN AANAYITAAL probably a premonition to what he intended to achieve later ?!
  
  The position of Ramu(in Ilango's place) is only marginally interesting as the listless romance with Rathna is the only major thing happening. Thankfully, the actions of Ilango are concentrated upon as he is wooed by Saroja Devi and hated by Nambiar and co. The revelation of the switch is handled neatly and the emotions of the heroines are not carried on for too long. But the subsequent story that digs into the pasts of the two look-alikes is confusing and extends the movie unnecessarily
  
  One interesting thing to see in older movies in how well they stand up when watched today. Though Enga Veettu Pillai is undeniably entertaining even today, there do exist a few instances which stand out awkwardly. Special effects which make the dual roles possible don't compare favorably even to the effects in Uthama Puthiran. The subservient role of women is quite obvious in the way Saroja Devi, who is introduced as a 'modern' woman, gleefully accepts the demand of a dowry. The lament of Pandaribai about wanting to die at Nambiar's feet after he has slapped her and walked out is quite irritating.
  
  Ilango character is full of blood & aggression. So aggressive even while eating ! One can see this guy eating quite frequently & very fond of good food also !
  
  The best scene probably is the super hit song NAAN AANAYITAAL ADHU NADANDHU VITAAL .
  
  MSV-TK Ramamurthy combination had composed some beautiful songs :
  
  1. Kangalum kaavadi chindadatum
  Its the song after the title which also introduces the timid MGR Ramu , who is fond of dance , music .
  I suspect a political agenda hidden deep into himself becaz there will be a close up shot on MGR when the words NADELLAM UNNAI KANDU PUGAZ PADATTUM
  
  2. Kumari pennin ullathile kudiyiruka naan varavendum
  Ilango and Saroja Devi sing . The song starts with a take actually being shot for a movie which is being watched by both ( the movie also shows Ilango being fond of acting & in pursuit of acting also )
  
  This song was written by Valee . There is a story behind this song . Valee actually wrote thinking about his lover who latter became his wife also !
  
  3. Naan maandhopill ninrirundhen
  For MGR 1 and Ratna , after the cross over & a mild change in the behaviour traits. MGR learns the basics through that lady.
  This song is a TMS special
  
  4. Pen ponaal
  Ilango and SD. Nothing great to write .. The song could have been avoided
  
  5. Malarukku thendral pagayanaal
  Beautiful song for SD and Ratna amidst the confusion / misunderstanding as both MGR characters get mixed up
  I would say that its one of the best of P.Susheela-LR Iswari combination.
  
  This Chanakya directed movie features : M.G.R. - 2 roles/Saroja Devi/Rathna/Nambiar/Nagesh/Thangavelu/ Ranga Rao / Pandari Bhai
  
  Cost of living then :
  It will be quite fascinating & shocking to note that that the entire meal that MGR takes in the hotel costs only six Rupees is bound to make people who lived then sigh in nostalgia!
  
  Nagesh was a permanent feature in movies released during those times and is at hand here too. His mispronounciation of words is quite funny at several places and leads to many quick laughs. But the extended sequences, like the one where Thangavelu discovers his romance with his daughter, are a lot less funnier.
  
  MGR distinguishes well between the two roles though it is quite obvious he is more at ease as the brave Ilango. His strict adherence to his enduring 'good samaritan' image is obvious in the way he apologises before uttering a single lie to his mother and speaks out against dowry.
  
  The great Nambiar plays his character as precise as ever .
  
  It was MGR who used the cinema medium to the best advantage
  
  A movie for the masses
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 9:10:09 2007.

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  EVP : Actor Nambiyar - Makkal Thilagam - and his fans
  
  
  An eminent actor Nambiyar who was always the villian in MGR films had a great encounter with MGR fans.
  
  
  In Enga Veetu Pillai, MGR donned two characters one character is coward who gets whipped by Nambiyar.
  
  After the release of the film, Nambiyar was driving through a village, he was stopped by some villagers. He came out of the car and the conversation goes like this;
  
  Villagers : You are the one who lashed MGR right?
  (Actually the conversation was like this >
  Villagers: Nee thaana enga annanah adichathu
  Nambiyaar: Yaaruppa unga annan? naan adikaliyae
  Villagers: enga annan ah unakku theriyaathu. Makkal thilagatha theiryaathu)
  Nambiyar: No I am his friend.
  Villagers : No we saw you lashing MGR in that film?
  Nambiyar : It is a film I am an actor.
  Villagers: Whatever it is you should not beat our Vathiyar (MGR) right if you do it again we will beat you.
  Nambiyar: OK I wont do that, but in that film MGR lashed me back don’t you see that.
  Villagers: Vathiyar will beat you, but you should not.
  
  After getting the assurance from Nambiyar that he wont harm MGR they gave way.
  
  He also mentions that his fans were so much involved with MGR that in a movie "Thirudathae" in climax scene, where Nambiyar is hiding below the staircase to kill MGR and MGR getting down, his fans mostly ladies were shouting "Vathiyaar" be careful Nambiyar in below the staircase. That was the love MGR got from his fans. Even now though 18 years after his death the same feeling is expressed by his Fans.
  Hats off to MGR Fans.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Mar 22 9:14:22 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  My take on EVP :

  
  
  
  http://www.thenisai.com/tamil/movies/evpillai.htm
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 9:17:41 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Nakeeran wrote: My take on EVP : http://www.thenisai.com/tamil/movies/evpillai.htm

  
  
  Nakeeran sir,
  Neenga thaan appoo BBTHOTS fame Balaji ah !???
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Mar 22 9:23:28 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Neenga thaan appoo BBTHOTS fame Balaji ah !???

  you can see that altho the whole article is there, certain parts have been added towards the end.
  
  the irony is I gave this article in the intro post of EVP with a link!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 9:37:55 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Neenga thaan appoo BBTHOTS fame Balaji ah !??? you can see that altho the whole article is there, certain parts have been added towards the end. the irony is I gave this article in the intro post of EVP with a link!

  
  
  O.K. I see many of BALAJI's reviews getting replicated across sites like thenisai
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Mar 22 9:40:21 2007.

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  Selva Sir
  
  Ellam mixed stuff dhaan ! Ange inge konjam konjam kallakki kallaki presentation seidhullen.
  
  Actually, there is a hardcore MGR fan by name Roop who runs a beautiful site for MGR.
  
  Visit here :
  
  mgrroop.blogspot
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Mar 22 9:43:29 2007.

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  Please ensure that you give the links if you have posted articles from elsewhere. We DO NOT support plagarism.
  
  And never ever offer someone else's views as yours!
  
  

• From: Designer on Thu Mar 22 9:46:15 2007.

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  One of my all time favorite song is this one from 'Enga Veettu Pillai' :
  
  naan aaNai ittAl adhu nadanthu vittAl
  intha EzhaigaL vEdhanai padamaattAr
  uyir uLLavarai siru thunbam illai
  ivar kaNNIr kadalilE vizhamaattAr
  ivar kaNNIr kadalilE vizhamaattAr
  
  oru thavaRu seythaal athai therinthu seythaal
  avan thEvan enRaalum vidamaattEn
  
  This song has impressed me since childhood, mainly bcos Makkal Thilagam MGR emotes the song with such style and panache.
  Lyrics and music is also good.
  
  Btw I had also seen the Bollywood version of this movie (*ing Sunil Dutt, father of Sanjay Dutt), but somehow didnt find it as impressive as 'Enga Veettu Pillai' - despite the fact that in those days I used to prefer watching Bollywood films to Tamil films.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 22 9:51:57 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Please ensure that you give the links if you have posted articles from elsewhere. We DO NOT support plagarism. And never ever offer someone else's views as yours!

  
  
  Agree with you 100% NOV.
  
  One more purpose of this thread is to collect rare information like this on several movies. That is why I generally google a lot and post the relevant info here.
  
  Nakeeran sir - I know MGRROOP's blog. Infact, the Nambiar article I posted above is from his blog only though I remember the tamil version of the same !
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Mar 22 10:16:40 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Please ensure that you give the links if you have posted articles from elsewhere. We DO NOT support plagarism. And never ever offer someone else's views as yours!

  
  
  
  
  

• From: tacinema on Thu Mar 22 11:09:03 2007.

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  Good pick. The link provides nice synopsis of EVP. Some critic points:
  
  ** If everyone feels the movie is excellent, why is it getting only 3 out of 5 from the author? I agree mostly with the author Balaji. MGR as a brave personality was too good and close to excellent, but as an innocent personality, I dont think he convinced common public. In my view, MGR fails to bring out the innocent personality.
  ** I don't know how this movie became one of the biggest hits of MGR; the songs must have played a major role. On comparison, I would say MGR's Kudiyiruntha koil was better.
  ** Overall, a good entertainment movie.
  
  BTW, there is an NT movie that just mimics EVP. Incidentally, this movie was also made by the same producer who made EVP. Any guess?
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Mar 22 11:42:28 2007.

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  Tacinema
  
  Is it Vasantha maligai ?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Mar 22 16:36:50 2007.

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  VsanthamaaLigai has nothing to do with EVP!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Mar 22 16:38:22 2007.

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  tacinema:
  
  Let me make a wild guess!
  
  ennai pOl oruvan by any chance I have not seen EPO but I thought the name sounded sensible!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Mar 22 16:42:00 2007.

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  Or, may be balE paaNdiyaa? Because paaNdiyan role is tough but other other shivaji role is sort of "funny"!
  
  

• From: tacinema on Thu Mar 22 22:22:54 2007.

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  It is Vani Rani. There is a major difference - MGR role was done by the heroine Vanishree. NT's role is almost like a guest appearance and the movie has got some fine songs.
  It is a fun-filled NT movie and Murali Srinivasan touched briefly about this movie in NT-part 1 thread.
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 22 22:29:57 2007.

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  Nice movie .... Enga veetu pillai ....
  Thuruthuru character - saadhuvaana character .... rendaiyum nalla blend panni nadichirukkaaru Makkal Thilagam !
  
  naan aanai ittal song .... ellorai polavum enakkum romba pidicha paatu ....
  
  

• From: thamiz on Fri Mar 23 10:30:50 2007.

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  tacinema wrote:

  It is Vani Rani. There is a major difference - MGR role was done by the heroine Vanishree. NT's role is almost like a guest appearance and the movie has got some fine songs. It is a fun-filled NT movie and Murali Srinivasan touched briefly about this movie in NT-part 1 thread.

  
  
  oh, that! It was coming to my mind but I just kept aside as I was concentrating on Shivaji!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Mar 26 0:04:23 2007.

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  Watched EVP once again ! ( Sun TV).
  Though there are many scenes which you will love to see, the scene where we eagerly wait for Makkal Thilagam to take a shot at Nambiyar is the highlight of this film. Not to forget the "Naan Aanaiyittal" song. Gethu song and superb lyrics !
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Mar 26 4:22:19 2007.

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  tacinema wrote:

  It is Vani Rani. There is a major difference - MGR role was done by the heroine Vanishree. NT's role is almost like a guest appearance and the movie has got some fine songs. It is a fun-filled NT movie and Murali Srinivasan touched briefly about this movie in NT-part 1 thread.

  Vani Rani was a remake of Dharmendra Hema Malini starrer, Seetha Aur Geetha.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 28 0:05:21 2007.

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  Vedam Puthithu
  
  Cast:
  
  Amala as Vaidehi
  Charu Haasan as Neelkanth Sastry (as Charuhasan)
  Janagaraj as Vaidehi's Suitor
  Nizhalgal Ravi as Widowed Forest Ranger
  Satyaraj as Balu Thevar
  
  - Timeless movie on casteism.. Satyaraj and Bharathiraja at their best.
  
  Friends,
  Thanks for sharing your comments on EVP. BTW, I didn't get much info online for Vedam Puthithu. please do provide the same on the movie.
  
  Music - IR thaane
  
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 0:08:54 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Music - IR thaane

  
  
  Illa..But I couldn't recall his name now
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 28 0:08:55 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Music - IR thaane

  
  
  Devendran or is it hamsalekha?
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 0:09:19 2007.

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  Yes,It is devendran KannukkuL NooRu nilavaa is excellent song.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 28 0:10:22 2007.

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  I thought it was IR
  Confusing indeed !
  
  Tough to recall the songs even. Can someone provide the list of the songs in the movie?
  
  

• From: rocketboy on Wed Mar 28 0:11:49 2007.

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  Kai kuttai Kaathal Kaditham is one fantastic song. Even after many years it still strikes a chord Amala looked very beautiful in this movie. .
  
  Selva superb pick
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 28 0:20:47 2007.

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  rocketboy wrote:

  Kai kuttai Kaathal Kaditham is one fantastic song. Even after many years it still strikes a chord Amala looked very beautiful in this movie. . Selva superb pick

  
  
  Thanks Ya.. "Kai Kuttai Kaathal Kaditham" is an amazing song.
  
  Whenever I remember this movie, Satyaraj comes to my mind. I must say : it is one of his best.
  
  Not to forget BR too.
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Mar 28 0:41:33 2007.

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• From: NOV on Wed Mar 28 0:43:51 2007.

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  songs are:
  
  puththam pudhu Olai varum
  
  mandhiram sonnEn vandhuvidu
  
  kannukkul nooru nilavaa
  
  I lost a bet with my sis when I insisted that mandhiram sonnEn was by SPB
  
  

• From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 28 0:50:04 2007.

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  arumayAna padam
  
  Though more verbose rather than visual, it was powerful indeed...
  Decent performance by Sathyaraj.. Janakaraj and Saritha were terrific...
  
  Of course, the 'slap' scene is immortal and my favorite too
  
  

• From: swathy on Wed Mar 28 1:03:34 2007.

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  Excellent movie
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 1:16:31 2007.

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  The famous dialogues are
  
  "பாலுத்தேவர் பாலுத்தேவர் -ன்னு சொல்லுறீங்களே .பாலு உங்க பெயர் .தேவர்-ங்கரது நீங்க படிச்சு வாங்கின பட்டமா?'
  
  "நான் கரையேறிட்டேன் .நீங்க எப்போ கரையேறப் போறீங்க"
  
  
  
  

• From: unhappyboy on Wed Mar 28 1:21:26 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  The famous dialogues are "பாலுத்தேவர் பாலுத்தேவர் -ன்னு சொல்லுறீங்களே .பாலு உங்க பெயர் .தேவர்-ங்கரது நீங்க படிச்சு வாங்கின பட்டமா?' "நான் கரையேறிட்டேன் .நீங்க எப்போ கரையேறப் போறீங்க"

  
  
  Any movie that attacks a certain caste becomes extremely popular. I wonder why.
  
  

• From: smith on Wed Mar 28 1:25:01 2007.

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  One interesting sidelihght is that when the movie got released, there were protests that it showed a particular community in very bad light.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 1:26:39 2007.

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  I think this is the first movie BR did without IR.
  
  

• From: unhappyboy on Wed Mar 28 1:59:54 2007.

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  smith wrote:

  One interesting sidelihght is that when the movie got released, there were protests that it showed a particular community in very bad light.

  
  
  And which community is that? IS that why IR refused to compose music for this film?
  
  

• From: smith on Wed Mar 28 2:03:48 2007.

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  The community which is the favourite whipping boy of the medium, got it?
  
  No, this was not the reason for IR not doing the film. I guess, it was the IR-VM split, not sure.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Mar 28 2:08:06 2007.

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  A lovely movie !!
  
  My all time favourite Sathyaraj movie. Great performances by Sathyaraj, Saritha, Amala, Charuhaasan, Nizhalgal Ravi and that littly boy.
  
  KannnukkuL nooru nilavaa and puthum puthu Olai are wonderful songs by Chitra.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Mar 28 3:40:33 2007.

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  A top class movie.
  
  ONE OF THE VERY BEST OF TAMIL CINEMA .
  
  BR beautifully closes the movie with his customary style DAMN WITH CASTE . We are all human beings .
  
  And that boy finally calling Satyaraj as Appa is really touching & it says all.
  
  The best movie for Puratchi Thamizar Sathiiiiiiii
  
  Nice , lovely songs, challenging Isainyani. BR for a moment proved that he can survive even without IR's association !
  
  Kannukkul 100 nilava is real class song & as good as any IR compo !
  
  Beautiful camera work !
  
  The ever charming Amals , in traditional tamilian dressing ! Vow !
  
  The whole Sathiyaraj's family quickly giving up their practices for the sake of that boy are really wonderful scenes !
  
  Many touching dialogues . To name one :
  
  Rasa, endha kovillukku ponaalum ella saamiyum onnudhan !
  
  Sankaraaa Vaa rasaa .
  
  
  Another scene :
  
  Baluthevarnu solreengale, adhu neenga vangina pattamaa !!
  
  A memorable movie
  
  Great pick Selva Sirr
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Mar 28 3:42:18 2007.

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  there are set of ideas and thinking which you are born with.......
  there are incidents which make u think and try to change ur ideas and thinking......
  there are some events which break and shatter ur preset ideas,notions and conventions......
  
  in my case i was born with the thinking that Maniratnam is the best tamil director i'm going to see in my lifetime.....
  Vedam pudhidhu made me think and tried to change my initial thinking
  mudhal mariyadhai was one ripper of a movie which shattered my preconceived notion that no one can be better than Mani...
  
  (yes i saw many mani movies first and then vedam pudhidhu and then mudhal mariyadhai)
  
  a classic from BR..... .....with a very good message.........oru director-na society pathhi oru akkarai irukkanum.........suthhi nadakkara thappa than paarvaiyala solli makkalukku vellakannum.....avan dhaan oru nalla director.......
  
  the thing i liked abt this movie was he questioned many sections of the society and their thinking , not just a particular community......2 scenes to validate my points:
  
  1. the boy questioning the saamiar as to y he needs ppl. to carry him??
  2. asking sathyaraj y he always uses his caste name while spelling out his name
  
  sathyaraj was amazingly subtle and controlled the movie very well.....saritha was equally good with her performance as a village woman......songs were very good and yes they were not by Ilayaraja as popularly thought by my generation guys.... .....BR was desperate to find a alternate to raaja and tried many good guys like Hamsalekha,Devendran etc until he stuck gold in 1993.....
  
  Vedham pudhidhu - one of the important movies for me which changed my attitude on the great man Bharathiraja....
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 3:46:07 2007.

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  Another movie People may assume IR did music ,but by Devendran was 'MannukkuL Vairam' (NT movie) with great song "Ithazhodu Ithazh serum neram"
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 3:46:45 2007.

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  Maddy,
  Very good post
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 28 4:19:07 2007.

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  One of those movie that makes me proud to be a Sathyaraj fan. It could have easily been an actor proof role (meaning well written, three dimensional character) but as usual, Sathyaraj brings something extra to the table. He is a well-meaning man, but finds a tiny little hypochrite in him when the boy asks him about his "pattam".
  
  The subject is very touchy. But I think BR managed to balance it well. Each tiem I see this movie I'd think, "Whatever happened to the real Barathiraja."
  
  The background score is good, but we could see that Devendran was influenced by IR. He should, this kind of film needs the kind of treatment that IR can give.
  
  I don't have much to add...Maddy and other's have posted great stuff.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 28 4:21:03 2007.

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  Maddy,
  So, the Music director of the movie is HAMSALEKHA ! Right
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 4:23:15 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Maddy, So, the Music director of the movie is HAMSALEKHA ! Right

  
  
  Selva,
  Seems you havn't read other posts .It is not hamsalekah..It is Devendran. Hamsalekha is for Kodi Parakkuthu.
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Mar 28 4:23:38 2007.

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  Devendaran!
  
  hamsalEka was for bharathirajavin kodi parakkudhu (remember sElai kattum pennukoru vaasam undu?)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Mar 28 4:37:13 2007.

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  From the posts, I thought HAMSALEKHA & DEVENDRAN are the two MDs who scored for VP !
  
  Anyway, Thanks for the clarification Joe and NOV
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Mar 28 5:09:33 2007.

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  Superb post by Maddy !!! intha maathiri uNamai pEsa thairiyam vENdum. Appreciate your open and straight forward attitude !!
  
  I remember in an internview Sathyaraj telling about his son Sibi complaining that Sathyaraj does not do strong roles like in Vedham Puthithu any more
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 28 5:28:09 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  I remember in an internview Sathyaraj telling about his son Sibi complaining that Sathyaraj does not do strong roles like in Vedham Puthithu any more

  
  
  I get this discontent very often. He can be a great character actor. Thank god he is doing Periyar now. Whether he is justifying it or not, at least he can do a decent job.
  
  But VP offered real character job. He is not the hero. The kid is. He provides the point of view from the other side and realises that he himself has weak points.
  
  Plus...the way he handles the lost of son. It's tough to get roles like this anymore.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Mar 28 5:30:58 2007.

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  wow, thanks joe,roshan and groucho.....
  
  i really think there can be no one so artistically subtle and suggestive filmmaker than BR..... .....oh a preset notion again..... ......Ameer might break it one day
  
  yes forgot to add it was Sathyaraj's best performance as an actor.......
  
  sorry selva for giving u wrong info in the morning..... ........i got confused with Kodi parakkadhu and this movie.....
  
  but having doubts on its BO status - was it a average grosser atleast??
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Mar 28 5:34:49 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  was it a average grosser atleast??

  
  
  I think it was a hit ,but not super hit.
  
  

• From: smith on Wed Mar 28 5:45:30 2007.

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  The movie flopped at the B.O
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Mar 28 6:53:31 2007.

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  NO!!!!!!!!! The movie was a HIT !!
  
  Smith,
  
  Would you please stop pouring negative trash where ever you enter ?
  
  

• From: dsath on Wed Mar 28 11:36:13 2007.

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  In VP, BR has shown how an issue like casteism can be handled sensitively. Wonderful performances by all involved, the casting couldn’t have been any better. The music was not too overpowering and the conclusion was bold for its time. They don’t make movies like this now.
  
  
  

• From: great on Wed Mar 28 11:40:08 2007.

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  romba nalla movie aana yenakku thaan gyabagam illa except for few scenes.
  
  Naan kaRai eRittean neenga eppa kaRai eRa poreenga
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Mar 28 11:40:52 2007.

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  Superb movie Would easily feature in the Top 3 list of any BR lover. Powerful performances, excellent charecterization, strong script (Selvaraj again, I think), sharp dialogues, very good songs made this movie a classic. My only grouse was with the BG score, one area where IR was sorely missed
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Mar 28 12:00:38 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  NO!!!!!!!!! The movie was a HIT !! Smith, Would you please stop pouring negative trash where ever you enter ?

  
  
  Well said, R!
  
  He should take a break!
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Wed Mar 28 12:04:13 2007.

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  one good movie....
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Wed Mar 28 12:06:00 2007.

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  is it a controversial movie?
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Mar 28 12:06:30 2007.

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  satyaraj aRaivaangra scene mattum than paarthiruken
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Mar 28 12:11:26 2007.

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  i've saw the movie in bits n pieces.i jus remember the scene quoted by AF
  
  

• From: rocketboy on Thu Mar 29 11:48:53 2007.

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  I had written a big review for the movie ( Actually more about the river and the present Cauvery issue ) and when I pressed the submit button I was timed out .
  
  

• From: maithree on Thu Mar 29 11:56:28 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  is it a controversial movie?

  
  
  That's why it was such a GREAT movie! It was a very sensitive subject, but bharathiraja had taken it in such a way that no one found it offencive! That shows how good of a director he is!
  
  A couple scenes I loved!!
  
  *Sathyaraj the Periyar Follower has Thevar as his last name, and he says that he is agianst the Caste System etc etc, and the kid points that out, and Satyaraj feels like he just got slapped.
  
  *The religious Guru who is being carried by his followers realizes how he is not exactly doing what he preches. He realizes this because the boy points this out. And then he starts to walk.
  
  Those are just a couple scenes which always come to mind when I think abt the movie.
  
  

• From: maithree on Thu Mar 29 11:58:05 2007.

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  smith wrote:

  The movie flopped at the B.O

  
  
  Matter theriyalai na pesama irukanaum! It was a Solid Hit!
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Mar 29 12:04:19 2007.

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  maithree wrote:

  smith wrote: The movie flopped at the B.O Matter theriyalai na pesama irukanaum! It was a Solid Hit!

  
  
  Nahee Nahee . I doubt . I think it had a decent run & well appreciated by everyone but not a hit . It was not a commercial success.
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Thu Mar 29 13:01:49 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  maithree wrote: smith wrote: The movie flopped at the B.O Matter theriyalai na pesama irukanaum! It was a Solid Hit! Nahee Nahee . I doubt . I think it had a decent run & well appreciated by everyone but not a hit . It was not a commercial success.

  
  
  apo anbe sivam madiriya
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 29 22:49:14 2007.

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  / dig
  Maithree = surya vaaa
  / dig
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Thu Mar 29 23:19:18 2007.

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  athey doubt than raaj enakkum
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  / dig Maithree = surya vaaa / dig

  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Mar 29 23:24:46 2007.

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  rocketboy wrote:

  I had written a big review for the movie ( Actually more about the river and the present Cauvery issue ) and when I pressed the submit button I was timed out .

  
  
  It is better to save LENGTHY POSTS in a file before submitting them in the hub. Experience
  
  

• From: Jabroni on Thu Mar 29 23:30:29 2007.

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  rocketboy
  
  you can get back to it by clicking the 'go back'
  
  I have been successful
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Fri Mar 30 2:29:34 2007.

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  one idea :
  
  write them in a wordpad file and copy paste it here
  
  

• From: dsath on Fri Mar 30 5:15:36 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  Nakeeran wrote: maithree wrote: smith wrote: The movie flopped at the B.O Matter theriyalai na pesama irukanaum! It was a Solid Hit! Nahee Nahee . I doubt . I think it had a decent run & well appreciated by everyone but not a hit . It was not a commercial success. apo anbe sivam madiriya

  
  I think the movie was a big hit.
  
  

• From: maithree on Fri Mar 30 16:37:55 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  athey doubt than raaj enakkum selvakumar wrote: / dig Maithree = surya vaaa / dig

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Mar 30 17:26:58 2007.

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  Nice movie, and splendid performance from Amala who also looks ravishing.
  
  Songs were beautiful and picturized simply yet elegantly.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Apr 9 8:54:28 2007.

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  AVAL ORU THODAR KATHAI
  
  Director : Balachandar K
  Produced by : Andal
  Original Novel : Perumal M.S
  
  Cast Member SUJATHA
  Cast Member RAMAKRISHNA
  Cast Member GANESH, Jai
  Cast Member GOKULNATH,
  Cast Member VIJAYAKUMAR
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Apr 9 9:05:49 2007.

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  not another KN film!
  
  now all the anti-KB troupe will have a field day.
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Apr 9 9:19:32 2007.

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  I dont know where you got your info Selva, but AOT introduced several new actors, among them...
  
  Sujatha - evergreen actress
  Sripriya - sexy then humpty dumpty now
  Vijayakumar - Hero turned character actor
  Jaiganesh - Villain turned character actor
  Fatafat Jayalakshmi - Suicide in movie, suicide in real life.
  
  A very young Kamalahasan played a small role in the film and even had one song for him - kadavul amaithu vaiththa mEdai. he loves sripriya but is afraid to tell and someone else comes and abEs her.
  
  story is about sujatha, a tough woman who sacrifices her life and love for her family.
  
  great songs: kadavul amaiththu vaiththa mEdai (kamal at sriprya's wedding)
  deivam thantha veedu (jaiganesh when asked to get out of the house)
  kannilE enna undu (story-in-song - typical KB fare)
  adi ennadi ulagam (fatafat and her take it easy life)
  
  teaser: who can remember jayakanthan's sila nErangalil sila manidhargal in this movie?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Apr 9 9:28:30 2007.

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  NOV,
  Let us hope that this won't get discussed aggressively in the MISC Section.
  
  NOV, I didn't find much info on the movie. I do remember a few things which u have already given in a single post !
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Apr 9 9:38:58 2007.

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  the film can be examined from many angles. KB does not spell out many things and used imagery to convey messages. one was the SNSM reference.
  another was sripriya (young widow) who sings naa kOyi ... the kati patang song.
  
  something fabulous - the entire climax was just visuals and MSV's great score. nary a word in the last 10 mins!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Apr 9 10:27:33 2007.

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  One of my favourite movies again
  
  Thanks Selva for some nice picks.
  
  I have only one thing to say about this movie. Comparing with the lead roles like Vijayakumar and Jeyganesh - I'm sure no body at that time would have ever imagined a lean, ordinary looking guy, who did an ordinary role as a mimic would reach several milestones , become an icon of Tamil/Indian cinema and remain on the top even at his 50s.
  
  

• From: Rajkumar_mj on Mon Apr 9 10:46:08 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  One of my favourite movies again Thanks Selva for some nice picks. I have only one thing to say about this movie. Comparing with the lead roles like Vijayakumar and Jeyganesh - I'm sure no body at that time would have ever imagined a lean, ordinary looking guy, who did an ordinary role as a mimic would reach several milestones , become an icon of Tamil/Indian cinema and remain on the top even at his 50s.

  
  
  Roshan
  
  Well said.
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Mon Apr 9 18:16:22 2007.

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  yet another master piece from KB
  
  thanks for the pick
  
  

• From: Querida on Tue Apr 10 0:28:55 2007.

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  What a heartrenching movie...and something that women even now can relate too...her fate she accepts so wholeheartedly in the ending....like she knew it was too good to be true... i watched this movie close to "Avargal" and "Manathil uruthi vendum" and "Sila Nerangalil Sila Manidhargal"...am a great fan of KB because of it and also my respect for tamil movies only grew after watching these masterpieces...I still haven't been able to watch many of his movies.
  
  The brother like the prodigal son finally...finally turns himself around...and ends up gone...the spurned lover who was never loved...the widowed sister who loves in shadows...
  
  

• From: swathy on Tue Apr 10 1:12:16 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  One of my favourite movies again Thanks Selva for some nice picks. I have only one thing to say about this movie. Comparing with the lead roles like Vijayakumar and Jeyganesh - I'm sure no body at that time would have ever imagined a lean, ordinary looking guy, who did an ordinary role as a mimic would reach several milestones , become an icon of Tamil/Indian cinema and remain on the top even at his 50s.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Apr 10 2:35:37 2007.

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  Aval oru thodarkathai .......though i love KB's antics, this movie was way too intolerable..... ,......irritating to the core.....
  
  ayyo , yen avalavu sogathha puzhinjaarunnu innum enakku puriyala
  
  "deivam thantha veedu" and "kadavul amaithhu" songs are the only things i would like to see in this movie.....
  
  

• From: thimuru on Tue Apr 10 2:37:41 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  Aval oru thodarkathai .......though i love KB's antics, this movie was way too intolerable..... ,......irritating to the core..... ayyo , yen avalavu sogathha puzhinjaarunnu innum enakku puriyala "deivam thantha veedu" and "kadavul amaithhu" songs are the only things i would like to see in this movie.....

  
  
  lyrics
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Apr 10 3:21:13 2007.

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  thimuru wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Aval oru thodarkathai .......though i love KB's antics, this movie was way too intolerable..... ,......irritating to the core..... ayyo , yen avalavu sogathha puzhinjaarunnu innum enakku puriyala "deivam thantha veedu" and "kadavul amaithhu" songs are the only things i would like to see in this movie..... lyrics

  
  
  Yes lovely lyrics. Theyvam thantha veedu..
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Apr 10 4:42:51 2007.

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  Nice move but why KB always shows men in poor light ?
  
  Why this woman glorification always ?
  
  I think Kamal already played a good character in Aboorva ragangal before this movie ? Right ?
  Which came first ?
  
  And that mother ( of Fatafat ) character is really aweful . Indigestable characterisation .
  
  Sujatha is the main force . Why that JaiGanesh has to die. After all, he came good finally no ? Why not a positive end to that character ?
  
  MSV is the real king of melody. I love Kannile enna undu song . Beautiful tune .
  
  Selva Sir. Edhenna, KB vaaramaa ??
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 10 4:51:36 2007.

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  Nakeeran,
  KB vaaram endru ellaam illa. I rate this as one of the good movies of KB. Obviously there are many other KB gems as well. We are just making it a point that none of the good movies goes unnoticed.
  
  And - Life la +ve uhm irukku -ve uhm irukku. That is why we had legends like NT and MT portraying both the sides and how to carry ourself farward. The directors who came after that, fine tuned the same and gave us "Different" movie.
  
  
  

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  Why not a positive end to that character ?

  
  
  That carries the whole message in the movie. I think the whole purpose of this movie is to portray how a responsible woman finds it difficult to fulfil her own desires / ambitions / wishes etc amidst all difficulties. I think it was O.K.
  
  Anyway, Let us agree to disagree and I respect ur opinion.
  /dig
  Just remind me a dialogue from "Ullam Ketkumae" now
  "Life la jeichukittae irundhaa, paithiyamae pudichutum. Life la chinna chinna tholvigal venum" !!
  / dig
  
  

• From: rami on Tue Apr 10 7:31:23 2007.

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  Aval oru Thodarkathai - Though a bit of exaggeration here and there was a good movie to sit and watch. A movie of different cadre among the movies which came out in that period.
  
  The way it starts and the way it ends is almost the same.
  
  The songs in the movie are lovely. Mainly the song "Kadavul amaithu vaitha medai.." the way it outlines the story ..
  
  But I never understood why Sripriya - widow sister of Sujatha, inspite of her attraction to Kamal - a vikatakavi , fells for Vijayakumar - her sisters lover and ends up in marrying him.
  
  

• From: smith on Tue Apr 10 8:05:15 2007.

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  also the climax..there was no need of sujatha getting her sister married to her suitor..since he was large herated, she could have married him & got her sister married off in a good way.
  
  seems they had already decided on the title & wanted to justify it
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Apr 17 0:53:48 2007.

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  hmm.. I agree with ramya, exaggeration to a large extent.
  
  Shripriya character was SIMPLY SELFISH AND PATHETIC.
  Worst ever!
  
  I agree iwth smith, sujatha's rich HER SUITOR could have supported them all, atleast temporarily.
  
  Anyway THATS NOT AN ENDING, probably one assumes she has another life, which she is yet to find.
  
  Frustration of a 30 year old, PORTRAYED very well.
  
  Songs are awesome, good script. Sujatha wins in her frist movie.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 17 4:43:27 2007.

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  One more important thing is : KB never inserts characters as mere fillers. In this movie, even the bus conductor had a scene in which he can leave his mark
  
  Conductor : "Sorry maa unga kalyanathukku vara mudiyala. Kalyaanam ellam nalla padiya mudinjathungala
  
  Sujatha : Antha bus la porathukku enakku ticket kedaikaleenga
  
  Powerful dialogue !
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Apr 17 4:53:04 2007.

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  Selva,
  It is more than a week .where is announcement of next movie?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 17 5:05:01 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Selva, It is more than a week .where is announcement of next movie?

  
  
  Unmai thaan Joe. will post the movie of this week now !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 17 5:18:56 2007.

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  Oomai Vizhigal
  
  Cast
  
  Ravi chandran
  Vijaykanth
  Saritha
  Arun Pandiyan
  Chandra Sekhar
  Karthik
  ?
  
  Music
  Shankar Ganesh
  
  Director:
  R. Aravindraj
  Writer:
  Aabavaanan (screenplay)
  Genre:
  Crime / Action
  
  

• From: swathy on Tue Apr 17 5:31:19 2007.

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  I don't remember the movie but can't forget the songs.
  
  Tholvi nilai ena ninaithal
  
  Mamarathu poo yeduthu
  
  Kanmani nillu kaaranam sollu
  
  Raathri nerathu poojaiyil
  
  
  selva: how u missed karthik?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 17 5:34:41 2007.

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  MOW - Till Now
  
  (Thanks to RAMI for the wonderful suggestion)
  
  
  Agni Natchathiram
  
  "Thooral Ninnu Pochu"
  
  ORU THALAI RAAGAM
  
  VEEDU
  
  Kaathalika Neramillai
  
  SINDHU BHAIRAVI
  
  SALANGAI OLI
  
  Enga Veettu Pillai
  
  Vedam Puthithu
  
  AVAL ORU THODAR KATHAI
  
  

  Quote:

  Just a gentle reminder to our dear hubbers: Hubbers who want a particular movie to be listed for discussion can send a PM to me. It can be any movie which you people liked. Whenever you see a movie, you might have come across a few interesting things and you may be keen to share these things. This thread provides the same platform for you. The movies will be listed in a random manner. Veteran hubbers can also suggest a few movies of the late cine personalities which can throw more light on the personalities and their greatness. It can be something like remembering them. Someone who used to sit at the back and do their job. Someone who went unnoticed inspite of their brilliant work. Such movies will be listed as SPECIAL PICKS. For e.g., if we have a birth anniversary / dearth anniversary of PERSONALITY X, hubbers can recommend a movie of them which will be listed as a special pick. IF you have further comments on improving the process and the discussions relevant to this thread, feel free to post them here. Thanks for your cooperation !

  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 17 5:36:58 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  selva: how u missed karthik?

  
  
  Added
  
  

• From: thimuru on Tue Apr 17 5:41:11 2007.

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  sumaarana padam...donno how it is considered as one of the best thrillers!
  
  vijayakanth :Thumbsup:
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Apr 17 7:04:51 2007.

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  thimuru wrote:

  sumaarana padam...donno how it is considered as one of the best thrillers!

  
  
  
  
  Several scenes were artificial and except for VK and few songs nothing is worth mentioning
  
  This movie does not come under classic or great entertainer or did not had a great run either
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Apr 17 7:09:52 2007.

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  Hi i guess,
  
  music by Manoj Kyan and Inai Isai : AapAvAnAn
  
  

• From: rami on Tue Apr 17 7:17:12 2007.

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  Its the music and the "eerie" feeling given by the movie ...
  
  It was new at that time in theatres .. If u watch the movie in TV now, it will be like another episode of "Kaathu Karuppu" ..
  
  

• From: rami on Tue Apr 17 7:21:07 2007.

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  The music in the movie is really good and of a different note ..
  
  You can try this link for the songs ..
  http://music.cooltoad.com/music/category.php?id=10302&page=66&order=title
  
  All the songs leave a haunting effect !
  
  The song "Nilai maarum ulagil " is an excellent "thathuva paadal"
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Apr 17 7:28:33 2007.

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  rami wrote:

  The music in the movie is really good and of a different note .. You can try this link for the songs .. http://music.cooltoad.com/music/category.php?id=10302&page=66&order=title All the songs leave a haunting effect ! The song "Nilai maarum ulagil " is an excellent "thathuva paadal"

  
  
  is it nilai maaRum ulagiL or thOlvi nilaiyana ninaithaal?
  
  I dont remember much about this movie. I think the plot was something like - kidnapping girls and removing their eyes and the code word used by the villain is black roses. I am not sure though
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Apr 17 7:37:32 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  is it nilai maaRum ulagiL or thOlvi nilaiyana ninaithaal?

  
  
  two different songs
  
  thOlvi nilaiyana ninaithaal is my fav. along with mamarathu pooveduthu manjam onnu podava
  
  Omai Vizhigal was runaway hit and after this film, many gave respects to students of film institute.
  
  Aapaavaanan was one of film personalities who tried / achieved to give different
  
  

• From: rami on Tue Apr 17 8:22:52 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  rami wrote: The music in the movie is really good and of a different note .. You can try this link for the songs .. http://music.cooltoad.com/music/category.php?id=10302&page=66&order=title All the songs leave a haunting effect ! The song "Nilai maarum ulagil " is an excellent "thathuva paadal" is it nilai maaRum ulagiL or thOlvi nilaiyana ninaithaal? I dont remember much about this movie. I think the plot was something like - kidnapping girls and removing their eyes and the code word used by the villain is black roses. I am not sure though

  
  
  Both the songs are good !! and both songs are from the same movie only !!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Apr 17 10:50:25 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  This movie does not come under classic or great entertainer or did not had a great run either

  
  
  
  
  The movie was a super hit, AFAIK. I have seen it long back on KTV and yes the movie was a total comedy Barring a few scenes it was a trash and the songs were terrific
  
  Talk about inspirational songs and you can't leave out this one:
  
  thOlvi nilaiyena ninaithAl manithan vaazhvai ninaikkalaamaa
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdDCqPn8vfg
  
  Video is a bit funny though
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Apr 17 10:57:55 2007.

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  Arunpandiyan's first movie?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Apr 17 13:42:32 2007.

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  Thanks Sanjeevi and Rami for the clarification. As I said I dont remember exactly.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Apr 17 13:56:05 2007.

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  Ah...
  
  Vedham pudhidu (I forgot to talk bout it when It was there)
  
  A MOVIE which created IMPACT in almost every person.
  
  "Naan karai ErittEn neenga?"
  
  "baalungarathu unga per, devar ngarathu neenga padichu vaangina pattama"
  
  etc were powerful dialogues
  
  CASTE diferentiation STOPS when humanity plays role. LOVELY movie. Great message. MOVIE DID CONVEY a good message. Had good Impact and thereby acheived its primary purpose.
  
  SONGs WERE AWESOME.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Apr 17 13:58:54 2007.

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  OOmai vizhigaL
  
  I LOVE thrillers.....
  
  All I can say about this movie is
  
  "WOW"
  
  Songs, Cast, Screenplay, SIMPLY AWESOME.
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 2:51:10 2007.

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  I missed out listing a Vikram movie on his birthday in the previous week.
  Vikram fans or anyone can list a good movie of Vikram which can be discussed.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Apr 24 2:53:33 2007.

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  1. Kaasi
  2. Thil
  3. Majaa
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 2:57:06 2007.

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  Thanks Sakala ! I think it will be apt to discuss KAASI !
  
  Kasi
  
  
  Movie Name: Kasi
  Cast: Vikram , Kaveri , Kavya Madhavan , Rajeev , Aishwarya , Manivannan , Vinu Chakravarthy , Vadivukkarasi , Chandrasekhar , 'Thalaivaasal' Vijay
  Music: Ilaiyaraja
  Direction: Vinayan
  Rating: 3.5 / 5.0
  Review By: Balaji B
  
  Fun, youth and extravagance are undoubtedly the buzzwords in Tamil cinema today. Butdirector Vinayan moves away from all this in Kasi, a movie that revolvesaround a blind singer, and in the process, gives us one of the most affectingmovies in recent times. The movie was originally made in Malayalam as Vasanthiyum LakshmiyumPinne Nyaanum and brought its hero 'Kalabhavan' Mani very close toa National award(the award ultimately went to Mohanlal). Ironically, Vikram, who also lostthe award(for Sethu) the same year, now stars in thisTamil remake.
  
  Kasi(Vikram) has been blind from birth and makes his living singing by the roadside.His father(Vinu Chakravarthy), whose arms and legs are paralysed, his mother(Vadivukkarasi),an asthma patient, and his younger sister Lakshmi(Kavya Madhavan) are dependent uponhim. His elder brother Sevalai('Thalaivasal' Vijay) is a drunkard who snatches up the money Kasi earns while his elder sister's husband(Chandrasekhar) is threateningto send his wife home if he doesn't get the rest of his dowry. A dumb girlKaveri(Kaveri) is in love with Kasi. Kasi(and the rest of the village) thinks the worldof Raghupathy(Rajeev), an ex-MP, who makes annual trips to the village. This timehe has promised to pay for Kasi's eye operation and his sister's marriage. But hehas his own agenda and that brings Kasi's world crashing down.
  
  I am seldom a fan of movies where the director piles on the sadness in an obviouseffort to drive us to tears. And Kasi is definitely is a tearjerker in everysense. There are very few moments of mirth as Vikram, his lover and his sister areshamelessly manipulated and destroyed by Rajeev. But the surprising thing here isthe profound effect their experiences have on us. And the reason for this is the way things are handled by director Vinayan. While the happenings are definitely sad, the characters are realistic and their emotions are natural and underplayed. There areno loud cries or other sentimental outpourings and characters convey their emotionswith sad looks and sorrowful smiles. Our heart goes out to them and that is thedirector's triumph.
  
  Kasi announces its intention of being a tearjerker within a few minutes of starting. Vikram's troubles are introduced one after the other and almost everycharacter who is introduced seems to have a handicap of some kind. But whatdifferentiates the movie from countless other similar tearjerkers is the fact thatthe director doesn't continue to dwell on these sadnesses. Once the initial introductionsare done, he begins to focus on Vikram's naievity, goodheartedness and innocence(see his comment after Chandrasekhar blatantly uses his blindness to get his dowry) and this makes the sadness subtle but powerful. The fact that Vikram doesn't realise what is happening around him makes the film very effective.
  
  The movie is populated with characters that have a big effect, both positive and negative,on us. Kavya Madhavan and Kaveri easily earn our sympathy as Rajeev takes advantage of the love they hold for Vikram. Their predicament is tough and their silence is entirely believable. And as he reveals his gameplan, Rajeev turns into one of the most detestable bad guys in Tamil cinema in recent times. The depravity of his acts, the cheap motive behind them and his outwardly good guy image easily make us hate him. Supporting actors like Manivannan and Aishwarya too portray memorable characters that have their moments.
  
  As Kaveri and Kavya are pulled deeper and deeper into sorrow, the director very effectively contrasts this with Kasi's blissful ignorance of the situation ashe prepares for his sister's wedding(his meeting with the washerwoman is awonderful scene). The director keeps the story moving and successfully keeps us wondering about what will happen next. The climax, while not entirely unexpected, still manages to catch us by surprise with its timing and method of execution. It is powerful while the final ending itself is touching.
  
  Vikram once again proves himself to be an actor par excellence. With only the whitesof his eyes showing, he frequently manages to make us forget that he is justplaying a blind man. His gestures, hand movements and body language embellishhis performance and suggest that he must have spent some time observing blind people their behaviour. Kavya Madhavan, who played the same role in the Malayalam original,is brilliant as his sister. Her initial chirpiness gradually gives way to sadnessand she portrays this change wonderfully. Kaveri, who also reprises her role fromthe Malayalam original, is also good. There are no false notes from the rest of the cast either.
  
  

• From: Pras on Tue Apr 24 3:15:16 2007.

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  excellent choice selva, thanks
  
  i will post my view when i have time
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 3:16:38 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  excellent choice selva, thanks i will post my view when i have time

  
  
  Thanks Pras At first, I thought of sending a PM to you for the pick. since you are busy these days, I posted that in this thread
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 3:18:38 2007.

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  Just a gentle reminder.
  
  I request veterans to recommend yesteryear classics that can be discussed here. I have little knowledge on the movies that released during 60's, 70's etc.
  
  what looks ordinary to me, might have been a great movie in the past. (Taste thaan mannichikonga ) and also people like me will change our opinion if we get diff perception on a old movie
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Apr 24 3:22:42 2007.

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  Songs were decent. Vikram was awesome as usual.. but the movie was soooo slow.. and last 15 minutes were almost like mega serial.. cry, ready for cry, cry, ready for cry, forgot to cry type..
  but Vikram's performance was a -class, thats something good in a lacklustre movie..
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Apr 24 3:24:43 2007.

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  I think Vikram's acting in Kaasi is much better than his national award winning performance in Pithamagan .But I heard ,Kalapavan Mani did equally good in original malayalam version.
  
  Mastero IR rocked in Kaasi
  
  Remarkable performance from Vikram
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Apr 24 3:34:24 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  I request veterans to recommend yesteryear classics that can be discussed here. I have little knowledge on the movies that released during 60's, 70's etc.

  
  
  old classics were discused in depth. i would ike to discus on films with broken part storylines like navarathri, dasaavatharam, thirumalai thenkumari ect....
  
  P.S.:
  i am not a veteran.
  i have seen only 20% of oldies...
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Apr 24 3:36:40 2007.

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  kaasi, along with sethu and pithamagan spolied vikram's health\looks a bit.
  
  a digression - is it good for an artist to take up roles with slightly spoils his looks\health, on long term.....its bad rigth? and two fils had same director - Bala
  
  Joe ennai adikka varuvaaraa???
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Apr 24 3:39:03 2007.

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  yes, this performance was not only good, but alsonatural, when compared with pithamagan
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Apr 24 3:48:28 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  kaasi, along with sethu and pithamagan spolied vikram's health\looks a bit. a digression - is it good for an artist to take up roles with slightly spoils his looks\health, on long term.....its bad rigth? and two fils had same director - Bala Joe ennai adikka varuvaaraa???

  
  
  //Dig
  Actually you are forcing me to speak like bala fan by your underestimations on Bala ..never mind ..leave it
  //dig
  
  I don't get what made vikram's health spoiled ? Just after Kaasi only He did energetic movies like Thil and Thool.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Apr 24 3:56:40 2007.

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  vikram himself said those in an interview - he said his eyes lost the old beauty after kaasi, he was on a bad diet for sethu........for pithamahan too he did some thing similar.....his hair color to changed. he said it took long time to resume back.......
  
  i wonder, why can't those things could have been done with makeup\expressions\spl.effects...
  
  

• From: Flavia on Tue Apr 24 4:01:40 2007.

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  The strain Vikram took to emulate a blindman was mindblowing!
  
  Other than Vikram's performance, the movie has nothing special to talk about
  
  
  
  

• From: thimuru on Tue Apr 24 4:04:00 2007.

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  Flavia wrote:

  The strain Vikram took to emulate a blindman was mindblowing! Other than Vikram's performance, the movie has nothing special to talk about

  
  
  THIS IS CALLED "ENGA APPA KUDHURUKULLA ILLA" TYPE
  
  IR rocked!
  
  

• From: Flavia on Tue Apr 24 4:07:12 2007.

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  thimuru wrote:

  Flavia wrote: The strain Vikram took to emulate a blindman was mindblowing! Other than Vikram's performance, the movie has nothing special to talk about THIS IS CALLED "ENGA APPA KUDHURUKULLA ILLA" TYPE IR rocked!

  
  
  Kasi songs are definitely not in the same league of some IR's evergreen works. They are just average scores. Nothing to rave about.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Apr 24 4:27:49 2007.

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  Definitely kasi had very good run especially in B & C. One of bests from Vikram.
  
  

  Flavia wrote:

  Kasi songs are definitely not in the same league of some IR's evergreen works. They are just average scores. Nothing to rave about.

  
  
  Yes i agree 50%. Though it had dejavu feel, all the songs rocked TN (mainly B & C) especially En mana vaanil, athorathilae, punniyam thedi.
  
  Ithu onnum Best MD thread illaiyae
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Apr 24 5:17:08 2007.

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  Songs were good and IR showed a different dimension of Hariharan. Specially the song - aalamarathil ..
  
  Regarding the movie, apart from Vikram's performance the other outstanding one was - almost all characters were crying from the beginning to end.
  
  Selva,
  
  I shall pm you list of movies that you could consider
  
  

• From: ThalaNass on Tue Apr 24 5:24:11 2007.

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  Vikrams best perfomance..
  and one of the best of IR in last 6-7 years..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Apr 24 5:35:51 2007.

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  Kaasi - wat overaction by vikram .......arghhh, this guy seems to be the king of overacting....... ......appadiye adhuvum original-a , adhuvum illa........inspired from pakkathhu state
  
  can anyone answer y a blind guy needs to have his "iris" and "pupil" stacked upwards???
  
  

• From: cancer on Tue Apr 24 5:48:35 2007.

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  Kaasi Below Average movie...
  
  Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 5:50:36 2007.

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  Roshan,
  Waiting for the same Take your own time and we will list them here.
  
  Reg Kaasi,
  I think this is one movie which must have won considerable amount of female fans for Vikram
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Tue Apr 24 5:51:34 2007.

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  cancer wrote:

  Kaasi Below Average movie... Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai...

  
  athunala than padam flop
  
  

• From: ThalaNass on Tue Apr 24 5:53:40 2007.

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  rockydeva wrote:

  cancer wrote: Kaasi Below Average movie... Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai... athunala than padam flop

  
  
  nijamaave padam flop'a..??
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Tue Apr 24 5:53:46 2007.

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  rockydeva wrote:

  cancer wrote: Kaasi Below Average movie... Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai... athunala than padam flop

  
  
  
  Anbe Sivam kooda flop wasnt that entertaining?
  
  Kaasi movie wie it was bad but performance-wise
  
  
  
  

• From: cancer on Tue Apr 24 6:00:31 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  rockydeva wrote: cancer wrote: Kaasi Below Average movie... Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai... athunala than padam flop Anbe Sivam kooda flop wasnt that entertaining? Kaasi movie wie it was bad but performance-wise

  
  
  I m not disagree... Vikram's performance is good...
  
  Performance kkaka Thinikkpatta Scene kalaaka Thoniyathu enakku
  
  Anbesivam is much much better entertaining movie, U can watch it any no of times.. but not kaasi..
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Tue Apr 24 6:02:01 2007.

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  shiva
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Tue Apr 24 6:07:38 2007.

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  cancer wrote:

  nemesis786 wrote: rockydeva wrote: cancer wrote: Kaasi Below Average movie... Class MOvie um illai... commercial entertain um illai... athunala than padam flop Anbe Sivam kooda flop wasnt that entertaining? Kaasi movie wie it was bad but performance-wise I m not disagree... Vikram's performance is good... Performance kkaka Thinikkpatta Scene kalaaka Thoniyathu enakku Anbesivam is much much better entertaining movie, U can watch it any no of times.. but not kaasi..

  
  
  Thats what i meant but credited the performance
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Apr 24 7:07:08 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  Kaasi - wat overaction by vikram .......arghhh, this guy seems to be the king of overacting....... ......appadiye adhuvum original-a , adhuvum illa........inspired from pakkathhu state can anyone answer y a blind guy needs to have his "iris" and "pupil" stacked upwards???

  
  
  after special recommendation by Joe, I watched Kaasi, but his acting is overacting and also copied...I can see a lot of Kamal-type style acting...hmm...this guy is totally inspired by Kamal's way of acting..agree he should take inspirations from a great actor like Kamal but he should not try to do a exact copy or overact...I will say that Vikram had a good outing in Sethu (even at the last part of climax...you can find him doing over a bit) but lets wait for his Bheema right for now....
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Tue Apr 24 7:08:19 2007.

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  LEO sOganthAn
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Apr 24 7:09:13 2007.

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  Is SELVA the moderator/owner of this thread....nice to see a neutral fellow being a moderator/owner of this thread....
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Tue Apr 24 7:12:13 2007.

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  Selva MOD.. yeppa irunthu..
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Apr 24 7:14:21 2007.

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  rockydeva wrote:

  Selva MOD.. yeppa irunthu..

  
  
  see some last few pages, where Selva is the decider of the "movie of the week" thread...
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Apr 24 7:14:54 2007.

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  rockydeva wrote:

  LEO sOganthAn

  
  
  
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Tue Apr 24 7:21:25 2007.

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  Please put "KARAGAATAKARAN FOR NEXT WEEK "
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Apr 24 7:26:20 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  Please put "KARAGAATAKARAN FOR NEXT WEEK "

  
  
  We need to request our Moderator/Owner of this thread, Selva to change the topic of the thread.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Apr 24 7:31:36 2007.

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  leosimha wrote:

  Is SELVA the moderator/owner of this thread....nice to see a neutral fellow being a moderator/owner of this thread....

  
  
  Sathiyamaa kedaiyaathungo !
  
  
  Friends,
  Like how NOV said, this thread is for celebrating selected movie. Ofcourse, you can express your opinion on what you feel about the movie. At the same time, give space / room for others to do the same
  
  As I said, friends can PM me the movie to be listed for discussion
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Tue Apr 24 7:32:46 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  At the same time, give space / room for others to do the same As I said, friends can PM me the movie to be listed for discussion

  
  
  acre kanakula iruku eduthukonga
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed Apr 25 18:39:06 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I don't get what made vikram's health spoiled ? Just after Kaasi only He did energetic movies like Thil and Thool.

  
  Sorry Joe - You are wrong! Dhil was released before Kasi.
  
  Btw, talking about Kasi, Vikram's role was brilliant in that movie. It was definitely more challenging and more convincing than the National award winning PM.
  
  In terms of Vikram's acting performance - I would rate Sethu > Kasi > PM > Anniyan!
  
  As far as Kasi goes, I liked the way Vikram kills the villain (Rajeev?) in the end to take revenge for his sister! I thought that was positive end for a "tear jerker" movie like this. But what I didn’t like about the movie was (especially in the beginning) the way Vinoo Chakaravarhty bashes Kasi to get create sympathy for the blind character. To me that looked vewry artificial!
  
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed Apr 25 18:47:07 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  Kaasi - wat overaction by vikram .......arghhh, this guy seems to be the king of overacting....... ......appadiye adhuvum original-a , adhuvum illa........inspired from pakkathhu state can anyone answer y a blind guy needs to have his "iris" and "pupil" stacked upwards???

  
  Maddy - I have seen and interacted with a blind person who used to live right next to my house who shows same kind of facial expressions when hearing or talking to others! Actually that person is the borther of our flat's watchman! That's why when I saw Kasi, I never felt anything unusual or artifical about Vikram's acting!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue May 1 1:54:40 2007.

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  Ok, MAY - 1st it is and the MOVIE FOR THIS WEEK is Mugavari
  
  on request from our Hubber "great"
  
  Cast : Ajith, Jyothika, Vivek, Raghuvaran, K.Vishwanath, Cochin Haneefa
  Director : Durai
  Cinematography : Ajayan Vincent
  Editing : B.Lenin
  Producer : SS Chakaravarthy
  Music : Deva
  
  review: http://www.tamilsweb.com/cgi-bin/etsearch/etsearch.cgi?ID=988422437
  
  MODS, please change the thread title to "MOVIE OF THE WEEK- Mugavari" .......thanks......
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 1 9:58:17 2007.

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  As much as I wanna say about KAASI ,
  
  I CANT...
  
  becuase...
  
  Ive not seen the movie
  
  same holds for MUGAVARI too
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Tue May 1 12:25:45 2007.

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  Make it to MUGAVARI please people who have not seen it may learn about the movie from this thread
  
  

• From: kalnayak on Wed May 2 5:58:27 2007.

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  Selva,
  
  Neenga Thala Rasigar. Athanaala Mugavari ya potuteenga, but I feel its not worth comparing with other films discussed so far in this thread. Ini ella Thala padathayum pottu discuss pannunga Thala Rasigargale.
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Wed May 2 6:04:05 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Selva, Neenga Thala Rasigar. Athanaala Mugavari ya potuteenga, but I feel its not worth comparing with other films discussed so far in this thread. Ini ella Thala padathayum pottu discuss pannunga Thala Rasigargale.

  
  
  You want a film like pithamagan where a guy overacts like an animal to be called as great film n discussed?
  
  Whats ur problem u can always stay away if u dont consider a movie as good from ur viewpoint
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 2 6:05:41 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Selva, Neenga Thala Rasigar. Athanaala Mugavari ya potuteenga, but I feel its not worth comparing with other films discussed so far in this thread. Ini ella Thala padathayum pottu discuss pannunga Thala Rasigargale.

  
  
  I didn't list this movie just coz I am a THALA fan.
  As I said, we will give importance to yesteryear movies MOSTLY. At the sametime, we will list movie to celebrate the special events related to the celebrities.
  
  Be it MGR, SIVAJI, GEMINI, NADIGAVEL, SATYARAJ, IR, ARR, YSR, HJ etc. This is just one of the N ways to remember the events associated with the celebrities
  
  & Great nominated this movie long time back. I didn't want to list this at that time itself since I didn't want this to be in this thread at that time.
  
  Ungalukku pudicha nadigar oda special event irundha sollunga, avar movie ya kooda list pannalaam.
  
  Few more e.gs would be., Nagesh, chandrababu, yesteryear actresses, technicians, etc
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 6:11:05 2007.

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  Mugavari is very realistic film.
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Wed May 2 6:14:43 2007.

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  The direction , Music and Ajith's performance were the highlights!
  
  i think initially the climax was like ajith totally gives up his passion for music and goes for a job! But since the response was not good or objection was from fans the climax was changed a bit and film went on to become a hit
  
  
  My Favourite Songs and Scenes from the movie:
  
  * Ajith gaining confidence in life after seeing a small boy stretching n jumping to hit a bell after several failures
  
  * Climax scene between manivannan and Ajith
  
  * Keechu Kiliye song
  
  * Eh Nilave Song
  
  * The scene in recording theatre where Ajith becomes restless when he comes to know recording is canceled , acting was very natural and top notch
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 6:26:42 2007.

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  The way Ajith will be insulted by some relatives of a producer. I felt like hitting them.
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Wed May 2 6:31:22 2007.

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  Only Kamal cud have portrayed Sridhar in a better way.
  Hats off to Ajith.
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed May 2 6:57:00 2007.

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  hi guys,
  I have to say that mugavari is not a movie i enjoyed ... like other ajith movies .. some scenes were good, music by Deva was good .. but
  
  just a view from a neutral fan
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed May 2 7:01:04 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  kalnayak wrote: Selva, Neenga Thala Rasigar. Athanaala Mugavari ya potuteenga, but I feel its not worth comparing with other films discussed so far in this thread. Ini ella Thala padathayum pottu discuss pannunga Thala Rasigargale. You want a film like pithamagan where a guy overacts like an animal to be called as great film n discussed? Whats ur problem u can always stay away if u dont consider a movie as good from ur viewpoint

  
  
  nemesis, why do you pull in pithamagan ? ... if you feel that vikram overacted in it, it is your point of view, i respect it ... but why speak about it here ?
  
  

• From: seran on Wed May 2 7:11:15 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  hi guys, I have to say that mugavari is not a movie i enjoyed ... like other ajith movies .. some scenes were good, music by Deva was good .. but just a view from a neutral fan

  
  It depends on your taste whether you like a movie or not, you don't need to be a Ajith fan to like the film. I'm also a neutral fan
  
  Mugavari is a very good movie, which I loved, one of the realistic movies by Ajith. Ajith's performance is awesome as a struggling musician and Jo is cool as ever
  Though the songs in the movie are straight lift, they are good.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed May 2 7:14:55 2007.

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  Mugavari.
  
  Though ajith already proved that he could act with aplomb in vaali,mugavari earned him a feel-good atmosphere.Without any real change in his get-up,sridhar of mugavari made it big.Not just by the 200 day (real) run of the movie,the qualitativeness strikes.Ajith who is an aspiring MD makes his way into kollywood with patience.Raghuvaran incites a fable on this thought,which repeated by jyotikha reveals the mesage of the film.His family,especially his brother raghuvaran is by him.Ajith also wants to woo jothika whom he meets frequently and loves his music.But,his joblessness makes some sparks with his father.At the climax,ajith is portrayed in the most convincing way,which made this film a superhit,earned thala a great name among reviewers like madan and was appreciated by the magazines too.The songs of the movie were a major let-down.Deva,the king of "lavattifying" infact directly copied BSB hits which made the menace.However Keechu kiliye song which was original was the chartbuster,surprisingly.Overall,an appreciable movie.Definitely can be seen 5 or more times.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed May 2 7:16:05 2007.

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  hey all
  
  why do u guys pull down vikram?basically i dont understand u guys calling vikram an overactor.i feel ure wrong most of the time.
  
  pithamagan is definitely realistic,especially the climax.no wonder the national award was given o him.
  
  kasi,hmmmm maybe,but its not a crap.its definitely watchable.
  
  sethu excellent movie.however anniyan is 100% pure shankar-made garbage.
  
  dhool,saamy,etc. were ordinary.dhil was a decent effort.gemini doesn't deserve a mention.so do KS,samurai.
  
  i liked KING more than these movies,at par with sethu and pithamagan!very seasoned performance by both vikram and sneha.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 7:19:21 2007.

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  Venki unarchivasa pattu rendu thadava buttona alluthitngalo??
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Wed May 2 7:20:00 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Mugavari. Though ajith already proved that he could act with aplomb in vaali,mugavari earned him a feel-good atmosphere.Without any real change in his get-up,sridhar of mugavari made it big.Not just by the 200 day (real) run of the movie,the qualitativeness strikes.Ajith who is an aspiring MD makes his way into kollywood with patience.Raghuvaran incites a fable on this thought,which repeated by jyotikha reveals the mesage of the film.His family,especially his brother raghuvaran is by him.Ajith also wants to woo jothika whom he meets frequently and loves his music.But,his joblessness makes some sparks with his father.At the climax,ajith is portrayed in the most convincing way,which made this film a superhit,earned thala a great name among reviewers like madan and was appreciated by the magazines too.The songs of the movie were a major let-down.Deva,the king of "lavattifying" infact directly copied BSB hits which made the menace.However Keechu kiliye song which was original was the chartbuster,surprisingly.Overall,an appreciable movie.Definitely can be seen 5 or more times.

  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Wed May 2 7:22:50 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  hi guys, I have to say that mugavari is not a movie i enjoyed ... like other ajith movies .. some scenes were good, music by Deva was good .. but just a view from a neutral fan

  
  
  
  I welcome your honest opinion!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 2 7:23:13 2007.

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  Venki
  Good post on Vikram too
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed May 2 7:26:55 2007.

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  favourite scenes:
  
  1.one of the best scenes in recent tamil movies:the scene where a boy tries to ring a bell and falls down,finally rings it.
  
  2.the scene where the names are written in cards and are shuffled,then ajith discovers his name written in all of em.raghuvaran and ajith look at each other:two greats looking at each other.
  
  3.the reaction of the ultimate star when he finds that his brother gets an attack.
  
  4.manivannan's speech to ajith;the gold treasure story.
  
  5.the scene where ajith sacrfices his self respect and fethes drinks for the director's relatives.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 7:27:47 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  dhool,saamy,etc. were ordinary.dhil was a decent effort.gemini doesn't deserve a mention.so do KS,samurai. i liked KING more than these movies,at par with sethu and pithamagan!very seasoned performance by both vikram and sneha.

  
  
  I liked Saami very much, one of Hari's best. He is back to form with Tamarabarani not as great as Saami, but surely a good movie!
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 7:29:32 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  5.the scene where ajith sacrfices his self respect and fethes drinks for the director's relatives.

  
  
  I think producers relatives.
  
  I felt like hitting the idiots when I saw that scene.
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Wed May 2 7:37:19 2007.

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  throughout the whole movie,ajith will hold a pathetic,helpless face which expresses his inability to leave music nor uplift the family.that feel was terrific!
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Wed May 2 7:43:19 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  throughout the whole movie,ajith will hold a pathetic,helpless face which expresses his inability to leave music nor uplift the family.that feel was terrific!

  
  
  It was a sombre movie and sombre character played by Ajith, by all means.
  
  Whenever things turn out really gloomy around me, "Mugavari Shridar" comes to my mind. poor chap!
  
  

• From: rami on Thu May 3 6:55:13 2007.

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  Mugavari - A feel good movie. A youth with a high ambition gives up to have a practical approach in his life.. When I saw this movie, I was reminded of Varumayin niram sivappu in many places .. dunno why ..
  
  

• From: rami on Thu May 3 6:56:31 2007.

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  I think this was the last movie in which he looked really youthful and handsome.. After this his face started looking somewhat matured ..
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu May 3 7:32:49 2007.

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  Definitely forms part of top 5 of next superstar Ajit . A realistic character ( more like in malayalam movies ) . that fight was unnecessary . It disturbs the movie.
  Jyothika, charming and nice .
  
  The scenes between Jyo-Raghuvaran-Ajit , are all simple but nice ones to watch.
  
  End. A pracitical solution.
  
  

• From: thimuru on Thu May 3 7:37:02 2007.

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  RAGHUVARAN-AJIT
  
  both are awesome
  
  

• From: mareen on Thu May 3 7:47:00 2007.

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  Mugavari a gr8 movie :claps:
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu May 3 12:52:58 2007.

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  One of my favourite Ajith films. The support he gets from his family and Manivannan would be pretty moving. In the days were every hero prefers to pack a punch and play a tough guy all the time, it was refreshing to see Ajith playing a vulnerable man.
  

  Nakeeran wrote:

  End. A pracitical solution.

  
  The original ending just had Ajith walking into the sunset carrying his file. It is only later that they added the 'a few years later' appendix.
  
  One of my favourite scenes is when Rajeev comes home to give the invitation and mentions how the bridegroom is 'well' employed. When he hears Ajith say that he is still trying to become a music director he will react " innum adhE dhAnA !" then turning to K.Viswanath and Raghuvaran, he'll say "En pA neengellAm idhai oNNum sollavE maatteengaLA".
  
  Then he will assure Ajith that he will fins him a job (though no help was sought in the first place). And he will say " good job, good salary.... vEra enna vENum ?".
  
  That line would reflect his understanding. He is not being discouragin just to be hurtful. He is genuinely interested in Ajith's welfare and is only too practical to share his dreams.
  
  From the reaction of K.Vishwanath, you can sense that he would also prefer Ajith to get 'practical'. But, being an affectionate father he won't say it directly. Raghuvaran will defend Ajith's choice but at the same time be very polite to Rajeev.
  
  The movie had several nice parts like this. If I am right it didn't do too well which is why Ajith stuck to masAlA films. Well I may have to shoulder the blame in part, because I only saw it in 'Indhia tholaikkaatchigaLil...'
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Thu May 3 12:55:38 2007.

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  PRabhuRam is right the lcimax was actually ajith walking away for a job in the sunset but it was changed
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu May 3 13:10:06 2007.

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  PR
  
  Well narrated. Infact, I too love that scene with Rajeev !
  
  The respect Ajit gives to his brother Raghuvaran & the affection that he pours on his family, the combined resolve of the entire family to back Ajit for his musical aspiration, all very well emotionally portrayed.
  
  Raghuvaran character, excellent one !
  
  Ajit, always play a low profile before his dad, brother . Nice presentation !
  
  I think even that Jaiganesh -Jyots-Ajit scene also is another nice one to remember. Jaiganesh stating the practical things in life and trying to convince Ajit to reconcile so that his daughter's life is settled for good.
  
  Overall, a movie to cherish for Ajit .
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Thu May 3 13:21:09 2007.

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  Really Ajit-Raguvaran combo rocked in this movie and amarkalam!
  
  But my favourite scene in the whole film is the beach scene where the short boy hits the bell with great effort -- symbolically showing never giveup policy
  
  
  Director VZ Durai [ who also directed thotti jaya and now doing nepali] did a good job
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu May 3 13:36:43 2007.

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  rami wrote:

  Mugavari - A feel good movie. A youth with a high ambition gives up to have a practical approach in his life.. When I saw this movie, I was reminded of Varumayin niram sivappu in many places .. dunno why ..

  
  
  Where exactly??? VNS is one of my all time favorites about unemployed youth. Pushpak was predominantly a 'comedy' until it ends just like it started. 'Nizhalgal' is another movie from 80s about Unemployed youth. But I haven't managed to watch the movie completely. Raj digital plus-la pOttAnga-nu nenaikuraen!! It was longtime ago. I didn't know it was BR's movie then.
  
  Now to Mugavari - decent film with one of the better efforts from Ajith. I liked him in that movie. He shouldn't have resorted to masala roles!
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu May 3 13:38:55 2007.

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  Nakkeeran wrote:

  I think even that Jaiganesh -Jyots-Ajit scene also is another nice one to remember. Jaiganesh stating the practical things in life and trying to convince Ajit to reconcile so that his daughter's life is settled for good.

  Yeah. That was a good one too.
  dayavau sEidhu, naan solli kaatturadhA ninaikkak koodAthu. oru thagappanA neenga solradhai ennAle Ethukka mudiyalai...
  
  vEnumna ippidi seyvOm..naan konjam panam sEtthu vachirukkEn...adhai neenga udhavi, kadan, seeru eppidi vEnumna vachukkunga. oru business aarmabippOm, naanum kooda maada othAsaiyA irukkEn....
  
  The nice about the movie is, there is no-one who is actually bad and plotting the hero's ruin in the conventional Tamil Film sense. Everyone is veryu concerned about Ajith's welfare. But very few are able to travel the distance along with his ideals. Even Jo has to drop out and one can't even find fault with JaiganEsh's line of reasoning here.
  
  Very good film
  
  Indha padathai nambi, Durai-yOda adutha padmAna 'Kaadhal Sadugudu' padathukku nanbargaLai koottittu pOnEn. annaikku pala natpukaL murinjidhu
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu May 3 13:39:08 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  One of my favourite scenes is when Rajeev comes home to give the invitation and mentions how the bridegroom is 'well' employed. When he hears Ajith say that he is still trying to become a music director he will react " innum adhE dhAnA !" then turning to K.Viswanath and Raghuvaran, he'll say "En pA neengellAm idhai oNNum sollavE maatteengaLA". Then he will assure Ajith that he will fins him a job (though no help was sought in the first place). And he will say " good job, good salary.... vEra enna vENum ?". That line would reflect his understanding. He is not being discouragin just to be hurtful. He is genuinely interested in Ajith's welfare and is only too practical to share his dreams. From the reaction of K.Vishwanath, you can sense that he would also prefer Ajith to get 'practical'. But, being an affectionate father he won't say it directly. Raghuvaran will defend Ajith's choice but at the same time be very polite to Rajeev.

  
  
  Nice scene that was !! Raghuvaran would politely say 'ovvorutharukku ovvoru ambition" .
  
  One of my most favourite Ajith movies. Dialogues were penned by Balakumaran and were very simple but sharp, like Raghuvaran saying to Jyothika - "hello ithu romba chinna ulagam. nallavangaLa nallavanga kaNdippA santhippAnga".
  
  Raghuvaran was excellent and Jyothika very sweet.
  
  My favourite scenens in the movie;
  
  * The one mentioned by PR.
  
  * Small boy hitting the bell in the beach
  
  * Ajith, Jyothika and Jaiganesh - where J'ganesh talks about his daughters marriage plans and Ajith talking about his ambition.
  
  * Raghuvaran relating the story of "gold at 10 feet" to Ajith in the mottai maadi.
  
  * Jyothika repeating the same story to Raghuvaran without knowing he is Ajith's brother
  
  * Ajith's encounter with V M Hanifa ( great performance in a very short scene) at the recording theatre - followed by the song "E-nilavE"
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu May 3 13:45:37 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Nakkeeran wrote: I think even that Jaiganesh -Jyots-Ajit scene also is another nice one to remember. Jaiganesh stating the practical things in life and trying to convince Ajit to reconcile so that his daughter's life is settled for good. Yeah. That was a good one too. dayavau sEidhu, naan solli kaatturadhA ninaikkak koodAthu. oru thagappanA neenga solradhai ennAle Ethukka mudiyalai... vEnumna ippidi seyvOm..naan konjam panam sEtthu vachirukkEn...adhai neenga udhavi, kadan, seeru eppidi vEnumna vachukkunga. oru business aarmabippOm, naanum kooda maada othAsaiyA irukkEn....

  
  
  PR thaan sari ippadi dialogue quote paNNuvathaRku Yes the way J'ganesh puts it across - body language, voice modulation, expressions of Jyothika and Ajith - very natural and realistic.
  
  

  Quote:

  The nice about the movie is, there is no-one who is actually bad and plotting the hero's ruin in the conventional Tamil Film sense. Everyone is veryu concerned about Ajith's welfare. But very few are able to travel the distance along with his ideals. Even Jo has to drop out and one can't even find fault with JaiganEsh's line of reasoning here.

  
  
  Credit should mainly go to Balakumaran
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Indha padathai nambi, Durai-yOda adutha padmAna 'Kaadhal Sadugudu' padathukku nanbargaLai koottittu pOnEn. annaikku pala natpukaL murinjidhu

  
  
  I am still laughing
  
  

• From: Freedom on Thu May 3 20:25:24 2007.

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  I think this is one of my favourite Ajit movies. Nice cinematography by PC Sriram.
  
  Edhaathamaana dialogues and well under played character for Ajith.
  
  The first time , I saw this movie I didn't like since Ajith looked too soft in the movie.....but subsequent views show how beautifully the film was made
  
  Every Dialogue was edhartham to core.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 9:10:12 2007.

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  Good narration PR & Roshan.
  -------
  Apart from those scenes, I loved the scenes b/w Ajith & Jyo. esp the way he wishes her "Happy Birthday".
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri May 4 9:18:53 2007.

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  The movie released when i was doing my B.E in tiruchendur. 25 guys from our class bunked the class, hired a van and rushed to Tirunelveli Perinbavilas to see the film. We saw the FDSS. I liked the film. But most of my friends didnt like the climax. They didnt want to see Ajith walking dejected.
  
  

• From: mrsrajan on Fri May 4 9:19:17 2007.

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  Mugavari
  
  My Most Favorite Ajith's Movie and Very realistic Movie too.
  
  
  I expect Kireedom will bring back Mugavari's Ajith.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri May 4 9:26:04 2007.

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  The film owes big time to the dialogue writer Balakumaran. My fav. dialogue:- Ajith to Jaiganesh "yEn sir? sambathikkaRavan-than Ambalaiya? sAthikkaRavan-um Ambalaithan sir!"
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 9:27:49 2007.

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  ajaybaskar wrote:

  We saw the FDSS. I liked the film. But most of my friends didnt like the climax. They didnt want to see Ajith walking dejected.

  
  
  Many fans & friends didn't ilke the first climax That is why they added that extra scenes to satisfy them something which I feel they should not have done
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri May 4 9:33:25 2007.

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  I have not seen that extra footage till date. Is it available in the DVD version,Selva?
  
  

• From: joe on Fri May 4 9:35:28 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: We saw the FDSS. I liked the film. But most of my friends didnt like the climax. They didnt want to see Ajith walking dejected. Many fans & friends didn't ilke the first climax That is why they added that extra scenes to satisfy them something which I feel they should not have done

  
  
  oh! There is another version with extra scenes ?
  
  Luckily the VCD I got has only original climax version ,which I liked
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri May 4 9:35:57 2007.

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  ajaybaskar wrote:

  I have not seen that extra footage till date. Is it available in the DVD version,Selva?

  
  
  It was not shot seperately. The extra footage is nothing but some earlier scenes rehashed.
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri May 4 9:38:58 2007.

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  I see. I missed watching the movie when it was telecast recently in K TV.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 9:44:42 2007.

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  Joe and Ajay,
  The EXTRA SCENE that was added later was just a temporary piece only. It was added days after the movie release.
  
  The scene is like "Sila varudangal kazhithu > and it will show Ajith as a MD" That's all. I don't think we can find that in any VCDs / DVDs
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri May 4 9:51:33 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Good narration PR & Roshan. ------- Apart from those scenes, I loved the scenes b/w Ajith & Jyo. esp the way he wishes her "Happy Birthday".

  
  
  Hey ! That's really a cute scene Jo would follow the same to express her love to Ajith - nice romance AppuRam - Jo's phone conversation with Ajith in her dreams.
  
  Jo : kEttuchaa (without talking anything)
  
  Ajith: aamA kEttuchu
  
  Jo :
  
  Lovely scene
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 9:58:39 2007.

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  Roshan,
  Thanks for reminding me that one. Infact, that phone conversation would have reminded the Vaali phone conversation to anyone watching the movie for the first time . But at the end they will feel the difference
  
  Cute one indeed. The way JYO pays it back to Ajith will also be good.
  
  btw, SONGS were also good. But sila idhu sema copy thaan.. But Anthe nera Mugavari songs sema HIT esp "Keechu Kiliyae" & "Ae nilavae"
  
  Lyrics were
  
  "Imai mooda maruthu vittal vizhigal thoongaathu
  Idi thaangaum idayam kooda mownam thaangaaathu"
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri May 4 10:00:38 2007.

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  I liked the first climax. The second climax seems to be cinematic, a typical vikraman kinda stuff.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 10:02:02 2007.

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  ajaybaskar wrote:

  I liked the first climax. The second climax seems to be cinematic, a typical vikraman kinda stuff.

  
  
  & Thank God they didn't make it look like a OVER-NIGHT-STAR scene. But still many prefer the first climax. The second climax is almost forgotten by many
  
  

• From: kannannn on Fri May 4 10:05:32 2007.

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  Looks like I have got another movie to watch soon. Thedum padalam aarambam..
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri May 4 10:13:42 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: I liked the first climax. The second climax seems to be cinematic, a typical vikraman kinda stuff. & Thank God they didn't make it look like a OVER-NIGHT-STAR scene. But still many prefer the first climax. The second climax is almost forgotten by many

  
  
  The Ajith-Durai-Cochin Haneefa scene is one of my fav scenes in the movie..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 4 10:13:50 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Looks like I have got another movie to watch soon. Thedum padalam aarambam..

  
  
  http://techsatish-techsatish.blogspot.com/2006/12/mugavari-tamil-movie-download-links.html
  
  Not sure whether this will work or not. The link redirects to GOOGLE VIDEOS. Try panni paarunga.
  
  Thanks to Nakeeran who introduced this site.
  
  

• From: kannannn on Fri May 4 10:23:39 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  http://techsatish-techsatish.blogspot.com/2006/12/mugavari-tamil-movie-download-links.html Not sure whether this will work or not. The link redirects to GOOGLE VIDEOS. Try panni paarunga. Thanks to Nakeeran who introduced this site.

  
  Aaha besha work panradhu. Thanks Selva (and Nakeeran) . Will watch it this weekend .
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Fri May 4 10:35:08 2007.

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  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  The film owes big time to the dialogue writer Balakumaran. My fav. dialogue:- Ajith to Jaiganesh "yEn sir? sambathikkaRavan-than Ambalaiya? sAthikkaRavan-um Ambalaithan sir!"

  
  
  
  
  

• From: leosimha on Fri May 4 10:39:27 2007.

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  oh no...how come did I miss to see my favorite Thala movie Mugavari here in this hub....do I really need to comment on this movie...this movie is chanceless...wonderful movie....Ajith's strong emotions with good supporting moments by Raghuvaran and his family and nice performance by Jothika.
  
  But what pulled the movie to touch each and every person's heart was the portrayal of Ajith's strong EMOTIONS....wonderful...Ajith portrayed it very nicely. Durai, the new director is lucky to have been introduced by Thala. The dialogues in the climax were touching. The ones with Jaiganesh and then with Manivannan.
  
  The songs by Deva were good. Ye Nilave is my favorite. then Aande Nootrande.
  
  This is a class movie. Ajith is a class apart. Ajith proved his worth in an off-beat movie also. Thala Pola Varumaa...
  
  Well, Ajith we expect a class from Kireedom also.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri May 4 12:14:18 2007.

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  Though they were lifts - songs were nice and soothing to listen. All songs were good - "poo virinchaachu" - one of the best by Unni Krishnan - specially when he reaches the high notes at the the end of the pallavi - "neeyum naanum nadappOm nilavin mElE"
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri May 4 12:43:45 2007.

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  There were one too many songs though.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sat May 5 7:01:44 2007.

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  there is a song before or after when one of the boys (master mahendran) will jump high to ring a bell , in the beach, & is watched by jo & ajith....... this is an inspirational scene for ajith in the movie, but the song is a duet, thevai illadha idai sorugal.... editing mistake'o
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Sat May 5 9:50:14 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  there is a song before or after when one of the boys (master mahendran) will jump high to ring a bell , in the beach, & is watched by jo & ajith....... this is an inspirational scene for ajith in the movie, but the song is a duet, thevai illadha idai sorugal.... editing mistake'o

  
  
  
  
  Director wanted to convey how JO encourages Ajith by showing the boy's example! I think that was an ameteurish attempt by director to have included a duet for that scene
  
  Good point Raaja Rasigan
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat May 5 13:09:11 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  there is a song before or after when one of the boys (master mahendran) will jump high to ring a bell , in the beach, & is watched by jo & ajith....... this is an inspirational scene for ajith in the movie, but the song is a duet, thevai illadha idai sorugal.... editing mistake'o

  
  
  Yes that song was indeed unnecessary !!- Swarnalatha high pitch pOi sothappiya paadalgaLil ithuvum onRu .
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun May 6 3:06:54 2007.

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  nemesis786 wrote:

  Good point Raaja Rasigan

  
  
  Nandri
  
  Mugavari is one of the very few ajith films which i (or neutrals) like
  
  Ajith has done his part very well
  
  His looks & voice modulation are perfect (as far as he is concerned)
  
  We are able to analyse about these things only bcoz the story is good & is presented well by the director.
  
  The other films with ajith in the same kind are
  
  vaali
  kadhal kottai
  asai (though dubbed by panneer pushpangal suresh, others are good)
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun May 6 3:16:36 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  asai (though dubbed by panneer pushpangal suresh, others are good)

  
  
  Oh ! Suresh-A dub paNNathu . Thansk for the info raja_rasigan. I've heard that Vikram had also dubbed for Ajith. Any idea which movies it was for?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun May 6 3:38:09 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: asai (though dubbed by panneer pushpangal suresh, others are good) Oh ! Suresh-A dub paNNathu . Thansk for the info raja_rasigan. I've heard that Vikram had also dubbed for Ajith. Any idea which movies it was for?

  
  
  i hope it is Amaravathi.... but i am not sure
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Sun May 6 3:41:39 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  nemesis786 wrote: Good point Raaja Rasigan Nandri Mugavari is one of the very few ajith films which i (or neutrals) like Ajith has done his part very well His looks & voice modulation are perfect (as far as he is concerned) We are able to analyse about these things only bcoz the story is good & is presented well by the director. The other films with ajith in the same kind are vaali kadhal kottai asai (though dubbed by panneer pushpangal suresh, others are good)

  
  
  enlist the others also please.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun May 6 4:12:32 2007.

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  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  Mugavari is one of the very few ajith films which i (or neutrals) like enlist the others also please.

  
  
  All the ajith's hit films
  
  Ungalukke theriyume edhellam hit'nu
  
  For me... i can add a couple here:
  
  vanmathi
  ullasam
  amarkalam
  varalaru (the credit goes to ajith's acting & screenplay of the movie)
  
  i even enjoyed the normal masala movie.....
  
  Minor mappillai
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Sun May 6 4:24:30 2007.

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  raaja rasigan,
  
  pavithra? it is also one of the gud movies by ajith
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Sun May 6 14:57:36 2007.

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  Who wrote the story for MUGAVARI was it director VZ DURAI himself or someone else?
  
  

• From: kannannn on Sun May 6 16:50:17 2007.

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  Nice movie. Easily Ajith's best performance (atleast among those I watched). The opening shot was about 5 minutes long without cut. Wonder how many takes it took !! The dialogues were good. One instant we root for the hero and the next instant we also see the logic in the arguments of those around him and wish he just lived a normal life. The movie wins on that count. Drawbacks - Deva in S A Rajkumar mode. Why couldn't they get a better MD? Some of the sundry characters could have done better too.
  
  My immediate reaction was, why did Ajith immediately decide that only mass movies work? IMO he should have tried more varied roles like the one in Mugavari.
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sun May 6 19:03:27 2007.

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  such a pessimistic movie
  
  

• From: keerthy on Sun May 6 19:38:26 2007.

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  Wibha wrote:

  such a pessimistic movie

  
  
  that is reality .....It is practically impossible for all human being to live their career dreams. Luck favors some and never even take a look at some people. Mughavari Sridhar's character was one such unlucky person's and it was one of the excellent movies of Ajith. Inspite of all his talent, hard work and family support, he fails in life.
  
  I actually liked the first climax where Sridhar just walks out saying that his family is more important than his music career ......I don't think it's a pessimistic ending b'cos, eventho' he fails in his career life he shines as a real hero for his family .....as an unselfish and a caring human being. That was so touching and practically acceptable climax. IMHO, the other so called optimistic climax was so artificial
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Mon May 7 3:55:22 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: Mugavari is one of the very few ajith films which i (or neutrals) like enlist the others also please. All the ajith's hit films Ungalukke theriyume edhellam hit'nu For me... i can add a couple here: vanmathi ullasam amarkalam varalaru (the credit goes to ajith's acting & screenplay of the movie) i even enjoyed the normal masala movie..... Minor mappillai

  
  
  
  AFAIK movies went well with neutral ppl are:
  
  Varalaru
  Ji
  Attagasam
  Villain
  Poovellam Un Vasam
  Citizen
  Dheena
  Kandukondain Kandukondain
  Mugavari
  Amarkalam
  Anandha Poongatre
  Vaali
  Kadhal Mannan
  Ullasam
  Kadhal Kottai
  Vaanmathi
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon May 7 4:13:25 2007.

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  keerthy wrote:

  Wibha wrote: such a pessimistic movie that is reality .....It is practically impossible for all human being to live their career dreams. Luck favors some and never even take a look at some people. Mughavari Sridhar's character was one such unlucky person's and it was one of the excellent movies of Ajith. Inspite of all his talent, hard work and family support, he fails in life. I actually liked the first climax where Sridhar just walks out saying that his family is more important than his music career ......I don't think it's a pessimistic ending b'cos, eventho' he fails in his career life he shines as a real hero for his family .....as an unselfish and a caring human being. That was so touching and practically acceptable climax. IMHO, the other so called optimistic climax was so artificial

  
  
  
  I refused to see this film. At that time, I was making a career transition. I was a bank clerk and I wanted to become a writer. My mom was against it and have constantly reminded me of this movie. Revealed the climax. So, hopping not to be discouraged, I did not watch it.
  
  And I am a writer now. I still don't want to watch the movie...because I have other higher dreams.
  
  But I am sure it's a good movie in terms of script and performance, as I have learned from others.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon May 7 4:58:14 2007.

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  Groucho,
  
  I dont think this movie will affect you anyway in terms of career transitions. The story is that - the hero has a chidlhood dream/ambition of becoming a music director and how it goes un fullfilled - due to circumstances beyond his control. So please change your mind and go ahead and watch it and I guarantee that you wouldn't regret.
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Mon May 7 7:43:27 2007.

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• From: nemesis786 on Mon May 7 7:45:01 2007.

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  Mugavari's speciality are its dialogues, natural portrayal and story
  
  As for as performance is concerned i wouldnt rate it higher than vaali or varalaru!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 7 7:47:41 2007.

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  MOVIE OF THIS WEEK - "RATHA KANNEER"
  
  Selected by : JOE
  
  Cast
  M R RADHA
  
  
  Directors
  
  R. Krishnan
  S. Panju
  
  Other Details:
  
  
  Courtest : IMDB
  
  P.S: I couldn't get further details on this CLASSIC. Veterans can update this thread with the necessary info
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 7 7:53:07 2007.

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  Nakeeran posted about this movie and few scenes in M.R.RADHA THREAD long time back. Please refer that as well
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 7 10:15:49 2007.

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  http://techsatish-techsatish.blogspot.com/2006/12/ratha-kaneer-tamil-movie-download-links.html
  
  I am not sure whether the links presented in the above link for Ratha Kanneer will work or not since I cannot verify them here
  
  People who would like to see the movie now can use the above link. Work aanaa update pannunga
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 7 10:17:57 2007.

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  Raththa Kanneer
  
  The year was 1954. Independent India was only 7 years old. M. R. Radha had recently broken the very basic rule of theater acting: he showed his back to the audience when performing. But the audience could see him emoting by noticing the way his head and ears moved.
  
  Indian movies were busy showing us the finer points of love by showing two flowers caressing each other (The ’’Two birds pecking at each other’’ concept was not there yet.)
  
  It was at a time like this that Ratha Kanneer was released. Ratha Kanneer was the odd one out. The movie was about an evil person’s descent to his death.
  
  
  
  MAIN CHARACTERS
  
  Mohanasundaram:
  Also called Mohan. Westernized rich man who has just returned from abroad. Atheist. Arrogant. Proud. Sarcastic. Disrespectful to anything Indian and anyone below his social standards.
  
  Balu:
  Mohan’sfriend, who also studied abroad. Simple, down-to-earth, humble. A complete contrast to Mohan’s character. The milk of human kindness.
  
  Kantha:
  Danseuse. Temptress. Seductress. Parasite. The apple of Mohan’s eyes.
  
  Chandra:
  Mohan’s wife. Very traditional. Submissive.
  
  Mohan’s mom:
  
  Run-of-the-mill mom. Submissive to Mohan’s tantrums.
  
  
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  STORY
  
  Mohan comes to India. A group of laborers have arranged a ’’Welcome Ceremony’’ for him. When asked to speak, Mohan goes:
  
  --
  Mohan: Friends, when I was told that there would be a welcome ceremony for me, I thought I would be welcomed by people who have the social status to welcome me. I thought I would be welcomed by industrialists and rich men. I didn’t expect you laborers here. I hate seeing laborers like you... all you guys talk about is hunger, starvation, etc.(continues)
  --
  
  He meets Kantha. He falls in love with her. She loves his money. Once, when they are in a park, a very sick-looking leper comes to them and asks for alms.
  
  --
  Mohan (angry by the sight of the leper): A LEPER IN THE PARK!!! WHAT KIND OF A MUNICIPALITY IS THIS? THIS IS NONSENSE. WHY SHOULD LEPERS BE LET INSIDE THE CITY? SHOULDN’T THEY BE TAKEN AWAY AND SHOT??!!
  --
  
  Mohan is disrespectful even to his mom.
  
  --
  Mohan: Live in the outhouse!! I don’t want my friends to see you. I’d be embarrassed.
  --
  Mohan: Don’t you have manners? Whenever someone comes and asks for me, you tell them ’’Mohan is asleep. Mohan is not here.’’ What will my friends think of me? From now on, you will address me as ’’Mohan Sir’’.
  --
  
  His mom, worried by his playboy ways, convinces him to get married. He gets married to Chandra. Even during the wedding, Mohan is more with his foreigner friends than with his wife. When asked to pose with her for photos, he stands a little away from her, a clear indication that he really is not interested in her. Even on the night after his marriage, he leaves her and goes to Kantha.
  
  Even after marriage, Mohan spends most of his time with Kantha, coming home only once in 2-3 days. On one such day when he’s home, his mom asks him to mend his ways. He kicks a chair at her, hurting her in the process. He goes back to Kantha.
  
  His health has now deteriorated. He coughs all the time due to his chain-smoking. Balu once comes to Kantha’s house.
  
  --
  Balu: Mohan, I have to talk to you.
  Mohan: Don’t you have manners???!! You’re educated, aren’t you? Don’t you know that you should knock before you enter?
  Balu: Mom is seriously ill.
  Mohan: Then take her to a doctor. Why have you come here? Do I look like a doctor? I can’t come now. Can’t you see I’m busy??
  --
  
  He comes home when his mom is about to die. Even there, he is very rude to her. His mom dies.
  
  --
  Mohan: Balu, arrange to pack her off. Today is Kantha’s mom’s birthday. She’ll be very angry if I don’t go.
  --
  
  Balu arranges Mohan’s mom’s funeral and goes to Kantha’s house to call him to attend the funeral.
  
  --
  Balu: Mohan, I’ve made arrangements. Come to the funeral. We’ll have to walk to the crematorium.
  Mohan: How far is the crematorium?
  Balu: Two miles.
  Mohan: TWO MILES? I haven’t walked even two furlongs in my life. You guys start off. I’ll follow in my car.
  --
  
  He doesn’t attend the funeral.
  
  Chandra is very depressed. Earlier, her father walked off in a huff after Mohan insulted him a lot. Mohan’s mom is dead. Balu is the only person who sympathizes with her.
  
  Kantha convinces Mohan that Chandra and Balu are having an affair behind his back. He insults Balu, who vows not to talk to him and leaves the city.
  
  His health gets worse. A doctor diagnoses his condition as that of a very severe case of leprosy, which cannot be cured. Mohan is now kept in a separate room in Kantha’s house. His appearance is terrible. His money is now non-existent.
  
  In the meanwhile, Kantha gets friendly with a rotund movie producer from Bombay who promises to make her an actress. Mohan creates a scene when the producer comes to Kantha’s house, for which he is kicked out.
  
  It’s raining hard. Mohan seeks refuge under a tree. The tree is hit by lightning and Mohan loses his sight.
  
  Mohan now wanders the streets, blind and hungry. His sarcasm is still very much intact.
  
  --
  Man: I’ll give you some food. Sing me a song.
  Mohan (singing): The Lord will take care of all your problems...
  Man: If the Lord takes care of everyone’s problems, why did he not take care of your disease?
  Mohan (laughing): I sang this song only because you promised food. Why else would I sing it?
  --
  Man: God righteously punished you. You deserve this.
  Mohan: Don’t talk about God. You all are a bunch of hypocrites. You worship God, and kick him the very next second.
  Man: What do you mean?
  Mohan: Don’t you guys pray when you see the Flame of Thiruvannamalai???
  Man: But that’s Agni, the Fire God.
  Mohan: If that’s the case, why do you scream and curse if your house catches fire? Isn’t that Agni too? If you truly worship Agni, you should dance in glory.
  --
  
  The rest of the movie shows us Mohan’s degeneration till his death.
  
  http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Ratha_Kanneer-53027-1.html
  
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 7 10:22:15 2007.

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  Selva,
  Thanks for choosing my pick.
  
  Raththa kanneer is one of my all time fav movie .It is the bench mark movie for Nakkal and social message .
  
  Nadiga VeL MR Radha at his best
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 7 10:25:13 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Selva, Thanks for choosing my pick. Raththa kanneer is one of my all time fav movie .It is the bench mark movie for Nakkal and social message . Nadiga VeL MR Radha at his best

  
  
  Welcome I watched this film long time back. couldn't recall anything apart from the scene in which he attends a function.
  
  Watched some scenes of the Kannada remake Upendra was good. but couldn't digest since we are much familiar with the original
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon May 7 10:28:40 2007.

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  I first saw this when I was in high school. romba Aludhutaen.. But when I recently saw it, it wasn't as sad as it used to be. Excessively melodramatic and sentimental. MRR's acting had shades of his persona and in the second half, when he turns leper and suffers the twist of fate, we realize he can actually mold into that particular role. The sober effect affects you (atleast it did when I was young). In spite of its disadvantages, it's definitely worth a watch
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 7 10:34:17 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  I first saw this when I was in high school. romba Aludhutaen.. But when I recently saw it, it wasn't as sad as it used to be. Excessively melodramatic and sentimental. MRR's acting had shades of his persona and in the second half, when he turns leper and suffers the twist of fate, we realize he can actually mold into that particular role. The sober effect affects you (atleast it did when I was young). In spite of its disadvantages, it's definitely worth a watch

  
  
  Thilak4life,
  Apart from sentiements and tragedy at the end ,the movie is full of satire and sarcasm .Even when hero was at his last stage of death ,he was full of Nakkal.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon May 7 10:41:48 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: I first saw this when I was in high school. romba Aludhutaen.. But when I recently saw it, it wasn't as sad as it used to be. Excessively melodramatic and sentimental. MRR's acting had shades of his persona and in the second half, when he turns leper and suffers the twist of fate, we realize he can actually mold into that particular role. The sober effect affects you (atleast it did when I was young). In spite of its disadvantages, it's definitely worth a watch Tholak4life, Apart from sentiements and tragedy at the end ,the movie is full of satire and sarcasm .Even when hero was at his last stage of death ,he was full of Nakkal.

  
  
  Yes yes. I know. Should have mentioned few positives too. I am pretty short sighted at times. I either praise a movie or dismiss it. Should balance it more often. Anyway thanks Joe..
  
  Aana neenga yenoda paera ippidi misspell panitinga - Tholak
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon May 7 10:45:53 2007.

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  M R Radha: Atleast oru gavunavudhu pottutu vandhu nillunna adhuvum ketka mattengira..
  His Mom: Yenda naana gown pottukkanum?
  M R Radha: Pinna naana?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 7 10:51:36 2007.

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  VeLi Naatukkaaran Neeraviya vachu rocket uduRaan .Nammorula Idly suduRaan
  
  

• From: thimuru on Mon May 7 10:56:08 2007.

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  can i download the movie from any website?
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Mon May 7 10:57:07 2007.

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  thimuru wrote:

  can i download the movie from any website?

  
  
  http://techsatish-techsatish.blogspot.com/2006/12/ratha-kaneer-tamil-movie-download-links.html
  
  thanks to Selva.
  
  

• From: thimuru on Mon May 7 10:58:36 2007.

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  thans ramesh
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 7 11:13:34 2007.

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  Radha's mom : Kaliyanathukku Purohithar nalla naaL paarthirukkar .anniku thaan sani varraR
  
  Radha : who is that sani ?Train-la ticket book pannitu Avanai vena early-a vara sollu .
  
  Radha's mom : Illapa .Sani-ngrathu graham
  
  Radha : You mean Planet?
  
  
  
  

• From: nemesis786 on Mon May 7 11:29:39 2007.

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• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon May 7 12:39:08 2007.

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  Joe! -->
  
  Superb movie! avarukku andha disease vandha peragum nakkal konjam kooda korayaadhu adhu thaan best part !!
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon May 7 22:31:00 2007.

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  Ive not seen the movie.
  
  M.R. RADHA for his screaming shrieking voice is NOT MY TASTE
  
  
  
  

• From: ThalaNass on Mon May 7 22:32:53 2007.

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  its Ratha Kanneer or Ratta Kanneer??
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon May 7 22:53:38 2007.

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  http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Ratha_Kanneer-53027-1.html
  
  Wont he ever get back to his wife?
  Wont he ever be loved by his wife or anybody GENUINELY before he dies?
  
  I feel sad.
  
  I WONT WATCH THE MOVIE, its too strong for me.
  
  

• From: swathy on Mon May 7 22:59:40 2007.

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  Andha kaalathilaye he'll ask his wife to marry again.
  
  M.R.Radha
  
  This movie was recently remade in kannada with ramya krishnan(kantha) and abhirami(wife character).
  
  Excellent pick
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 7 23:36:10 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  I WONT WATCH THE MOVIE, its too strong for me.

  
  
  SP, Ungalukku Indha maari padangal pidikaatha
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 8 0:18:06 2007.

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  Funny that this movie is selected...right around the time Periyar is released and debated about.
  
  MRR's Rathakaneer owes it to Periyar. This is a message riddled movie. So many of them, unfortunately from a guy who is labeled as bad from the beginning.
  
  MRR said many wonderful, useful line that make sense, but coming from him, who'd later become a leper...things fell on deaf ear.
  
  Of course, some lines should fall on deaf ear. Some really sensitive ones should be ignored.
  
  But those are political and religious stand.
  
  I personally loved this movie because it dared to make an anti-hero as the lead. It won't untill a bit later when NT does the same (Thirumbi Paar, Annaiyin Aanai and later Gouvaram).
  
  This character remains the prototype of many other wonderful MRR roles, especially the ones he did in the Pa varisai films.
  
  I haven't seen this movie for so long Too long. But I remember the impact it had on me when I saw it in my late teens. It made me think. A thinking teen...very rare indeed.
  
  I will be revisiting the movie soon. Definitely. Right after I watch Periyar.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 8 3:29:00 2007.

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  SP,
  Ratha Kaneer is not a off-beat movie as you may think .It is a great entertainer and ends with postive message.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 8 5:38:49 2007.

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  Watch raththa Kaneer online
  http://123indianonline.com/movies/rathak-kanneer-1954/
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 8 8:02:01 2007.

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  It had been very long i saw this movie.
  
  Can someone tell a place in chennai where i can get the DVD/VCD for this movie
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue May 15 1:56:29 2007.

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  Mullum Malarum
  
  இளமையிலேயே தாய் - தந்தையரை இழந்த ரஜினி, கழைக் கூத்தாடியாக வாழ்க்கையைத் தொடங்கி, பின்னர் `டிராலி' டிரைவராக உயர்கிறார்.
  
  அவருடைய ஒரே தங்கை ஷோபா. தங்கை மீது உயிரையே வைத்திருக்கிறார், ரஜினி.
  
  அந்த ஊருக்கு புதிதாக வரும் என்ஜினீயர் (சரத்பாபு), கண்டிப்பானவர். அவர், ரஜினியை வேலையை விட்டு நீக்கி விடுகிறார். இதனால் ஆத்திரம் அடையும் ரஜினி, அளவுக்கு மீறி குடிக்கிறார். அதனால், விபத்தில் சிக்கி, ஒரு கையை இழக்கிறார்.
  
  ரஜினியிடம் அடைக்கலம் தேடி வரும் `படாபட்' ஜெயலட்சுமி, அவரை மணக்கிறார்.
  
  இதற்கிடையே சரத்பாபுவுக்கும், ஷோபாவுக்கும் காதல் ஏற்படுகிறது. சரத்பாபுவை தன் எதிரியாக நினைக்கும் ரஜினி, இந்தக் காதலை ஏற்கவில்லை. வேறு மாப்பிள்ளையை தேர்ந்தெடுக்கிறார்.
  
  திருப்பம்
  
  அண்ணன் மீது அளவற்ற பாசம் கொண்டிருந்தாலும், சரத்பாபுவை மணக்க தீர்மானிக்கிறார், ஷோபா.
  
  சரத்பாபுவுக்கும், ஷோபாவுக்கும் ஒரு கோவிலில் திருமணம் நடைபெற இருக்கிறது.
  
  கல்யாணத்துக்கு சில நிமிடங்களே இருக்கும்போது, ஷோபா மனம் மாறி ரஜினியிடம் ஓடி வருவார். "அண்ணா! நீதான் எனக்கு வேண்டுமë'' என்று கதறுவார்.
  
  தங்கை தன் மீது கொண்டிருக்கும் ஆழமான பாசத்தைக் கண்டு நெகிழ்ந்து போவார், ரஜினி.
  
  சரத்பாபுவுக்கும், ஷோபாவுக்கும் திருமணத்தை நடத்தி வைப்பார்.
  
  அற்புத நடிப்பு
  
  இந்தப்படத்தில் ரஜினியின் நடிப்பு அற்புதமாக அமைந்தது. "சூப்பர் ஸ்டார்'' பட்டத்துக்கு ஏற்ப, காளி என்ற கதாபாத்திரமாக வாழ்ந்து காட்டினார்.
  
  ஷோபாவின் நடிப்பும் மிகச்சிறப்பாக அமைந்தது.
  
  சரத்பாபு, `படாபட்' ஜெயலட்சுமி ஆகியோரும், பாத்திரத்தை உணர்ந்து நடித்தனர்.
  
  பாலசந்தர் பாராட்டு
  
  "முள்ளும் மலரும்'' படத்தில் ரஜினியின் நடிப்பைப் பார்த்த டைரக்டர் பாலசந்தர் பிரமித்துப்போனார்.
  
  உடனடியாக ரஜினிக்கு பாராட்டுக் கடிதம் எழுதினார். அக்கடிதத்தை ஒரு பொக்கிஷமாக இன்றும் பாதுகாத்து வருகிறார், ரஜினி.
  
  மகத்தான வெற்றி
  
  மகேந்திரன், ஏற்கனவே சிவாஜியின் "தங்கப்பதக்கம்'' படத்துக்கு வசனம் எழுதியிருந்தாலும், டைரக்ட் செய்த முதல் படம் "முள்ளும்
  
  மலரும்.''இந்தப்படம், தரத்தில் மிக உயர்ந்ததாக விளங்கியது. வெள்ளி விழாப் படமாகவும் அமைந்தது.
  
  இந்தப் படத்தின் ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் பாலுமகேந்திரா. படப்பிடிப்பு, மேல்நாட்டுப்படங்களுக்கு இணையாக விளங்கியது.
  
  இசை அமைத்தவர் இளையராஜா. கண்ணதாசன், பஞ்சு அருணாசலம், கங்கை அமரன் ஆகியோர் பாடல்களை எழுதியிருந்தனர்.
  
  "செந்தாழம் பூவில் வந்தாடும் தென்றல்'', "நித்தம் நித்தம் நெல்லுச்சோறு'', "ராமன் ஆண்டாலும் ராவணன் ஆண்டாலும்....'' உள்பட எல்லாப் பாடல்களும் இனிமையாக ஒலித்தன.
  
  "முள்ளும் மலரும்'', பல பரிசுகளை வென்றது. "காலத்தால் அழிக்க முடியாத காவியம்'' என்று ரசிகர்களாலும், விமர்சகர்களாலும் போற்றப்படும் படங்களில் ஒன்று "முள்ளும் மலரும்.''
  
  
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 15 2:27:23 2007.

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  Selva, wonderful movie. One in my top ten. Don't close this one yet. Wait for my review.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue May 15 2:30:54 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  Selva, wonderful movie. One in my top ten. Don't close this one yet. Wait for my review.

  
  
  Ungalukku innum 160+ hours irukku ! Yup !! Wonderful movie. It has been long time since I saw this one.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue May 15 2:32:51 2007.

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  Rajini was awesome and his confrontations with Sarathbabu
  
  A typical worker and Rajini fitted that one perfectly. The picture here willprove that !
  http://www.rajinikanth.com/reviews/mullummalarum.htm
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue May 15 2:33:17 2007.

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  Lovely movie One of my all time favorites of Rajini films.
  
  intha padam pathi niRaiya ezhuthalaam but sattunnu thOnuRa moonu vishayam;
  
  1. Rajini
  2. Superb screenplay
  3. and the lovely song - senthaazham poovil vanthaadum thenRal.
  
  
  I remember reading somewhere that Mahendran decided on the title 'mullum malarum' because it had two meanings - both being apt to the main story. The meaning that mostly comes to our mind is - Mul and Malar but it also means mullum (oru naaL) malarum.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 15 2:36:08 2007.

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  Interesting Roshan. Never thought of the second meaning. My review...coming soon, Selva. Thanks for the 160 hours deadline. The clock is ticking....
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue May 15 2:41:39 2007.

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  Wov Superb film
  
  what an acting by Rajni, one of his best
  
  What a movie by Mahendran, one of the dirs who extracted very good effort from Rajni
  
  What a Music by IR, antha "la la la la la lo la la la lo lalilo lalilalo" chorus in Raman Aandalum song "clap:
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue May 15 2:44:14 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  I remember reading somewhere that Mahendran decided on the title 'mullum malarum' because it had two meanings - both being apt to the main story. The meaning that mostly comes to our mind is - Mul and Malar but it also means mullum (oru naaL) malarum.

  
  
  interesting.. never heard before
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue May 15 3:04:20 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  interesting.. never heard before

  
  
  http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=940003#940003
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 15 3:15:30 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: interesting.. never heard before http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=940003#940003

  
  
  Oh, okay. Thanks Nov. Didn't see that one. Though the idea of thorn blossoming into flower is surreal. Somehow it reminds me of the surgical stuff they do in Thailand. Hmm....
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue May 15 3:25:18 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: interesting.. never heard before http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=940003#940003

  
  
  oh! i wasnt aware of this thread. I vaguely remember reading it one or two years back - probably in balaji's - dhool.com site. A detailed write up was given about the movie and the song senthaazham poovil. Let me try and get the link if possible.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 15 3:38:41 2007.

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  Interesting Info about this movie...
  
  Mahendran mentioned in his book.
  
  Venu Chettiyar is the Producer of this movie .Once the whole production except the 'Chenthazham poovil' song were completed ..Venu chettiyar seen the rush of the movie and got very angry with Mahendran ..He didn't like the movie at all and afraid all his money lost since he beleived no distributer will take the movie..Now mahendran told him ,one more song is pending and that song is very important ..venu chettiyar got more angry and told he won't spend even a paise anymore and he won't allow any more shooting.
  
  Mahendran was helpless and finally he went to kamal Hassan who is friend of Mahendran and Balu Mahendra (camera man of this movie) .Kamal went to Venu chettiyar and requested him the same ..He explained How talented Mahendran and Balumahendra are ,,but Venu chettiyar was admament ..Finally kamal asked him "OK..You no need to spend anything ..Just give permission to proceed the shooting ..I will take care of money .is it OK? " ..Venu chettiyar said " Ennavo panni tholainga " ..kamal spent his money ,bought fim role and all necessary ,then they shooted 'Chenthazham poovil'..Rest is history.
  
  Mahendran mentioned in this book that he will never forget Kamal Hassan ,who is a great supporter of good cinema.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue May 15 3:50:25 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Interesting Info about this movie... Mahendran mentioned in his book. Venu Chettiyar is the Producer of this movie .Once the whole production except the 'Chenthazham poovil' song were completed ..Venu chettiyar seen the rush of the movie and got very angry with Mahendran ..He didn't like the movie at all and afraid all his money lost since he beleived no distributer will take the movie..Now mahendran told him ,one more song is pending and that song is very important ..venu chettiyar got more angry and told he won't spend even a paise anymore and he won't allow any more shooting. Mahendran was helpless and finally he went to kamal Hassan who is friend of Mahendran and Balu Mahendra (camera man of this movie) .Kamal went to Venu chettiyar and requested him the same ..He explained How talented Mahendran and Balumahendra are ,,but Venu chettiyar was admament ..Finally kamal asked him "OK..You no need to spend anything ..Just give permission to proceed the shooting ..I will take care of money .is it OK? " ..Venu chettiyar said " Ennavo panni tholainga " ..kamal spent his money ,bought fim role and all necessary ,then they shooted 'Chenthazham poovil'..Rest is history. Mahendran mentioned in this book that he will never forget Kamal Hassan ,who is a great supporter of good cinema.

  
  
  Kamal Kamal thaan !!!! - People should also note that it is a Rajini movie
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue May 15 3:56:33 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Interesting Info about this movie... Mahendran mentioned in his book. Venu Chettiyar is the Producer of this movie .Once the whole production except the 'Chenthazham poovil' song were completed ..Venu chettiyar seen the rush of the movie and got very angry with Mahendran ..He didn't like the movie at all and afraid all his money lost since he beleived no distributer will take the movie..Now mahendran told him ,one more song is pending and that song is very important ..venu chettiyar got more angry and told he won't spend even a paise anymore and he won't allow any more shooting. Mahendran was helpless and finally he went to kamal Hassan who is friend of Mahendran and Balu Mahendra (camera man of this movie) .Kamal went to Venu chettiyar and requested him the same ..He explained How talented Mahendran and Balumahendra are ,,but Venu chettiyar was admament ..Finally kamal asked him "OK..You no need to spend anything ..Just give permission to proceed the shooting ..I will take care of money .is it OK? " ..Venu chettiyar said " Ennavo panni tholainga " ..kamal spent his money ,bought fim role and all necessary ,then they shooted 'Chenthazham poovil'..Rest is history. Mahendran mentioned in this book that he will never forget Kamal Hassan ,who is a great supporter of good cinema.

  
  
  Aandavaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue May 15 4:08:18 2007.

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  Just to add to Joe's post, i saw an interview with Mahendran in Podhigai channel 2 years back.
  Referring to the same incident, Mahendran also said: "Re-recording ku munnadi producer kitta kaatina padam vera, Ilaiyaraaja re-recording panna piragu vandha padame vera"
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue May 15 4:41:35 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Just to add to Joe's post, i saw an interview with Mahendran in Podhigai channel 2 years back. Referring to the same incident, Mahendran also said: "Re-recording ku munnadi producer kitta kaatina padam vera, Ilaiyaraaja re-recording panna piragu vandha padame vera"

  
  
  Maestro
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue May 15 10:11:31 2007.

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  Thanks selva for the pick. This is my most favorite Rajini film till date. I will write more later
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue May 15 10:13:25 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Just to add to Joe's post, i saw an interview with Mahendran in Podhigai channel 2 years back. Referring to the same incident, Mahendran also said: "Re-recording ku munnadi producer kitta kaatina padam vera, Ilaiyaraaja re-recording panna piragu vandha padame vera"

  
  
  i too had viewed it:
  
  actually b4 re-recording producer saw the film & told to mahendran,
  
  "ayyo en panamellam poachu, oomai padam maadhiri irukku"
  
  But Mahendran is confident that Ilaiyaraaja is yet to do the re-recording & his music will do the talkings.
  
  (producer is even more angry bcoz he is hesitant to make rajini as a hero, bcoz of mahendran he got convinced first)
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue May 15 11:05:28 2007.

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  Scene#1:
  
  An old man abuses an innocent and meek coolie and refuses him the right amount of money for the work that he performed (petti thookkuthal enRu ninaikkiREn)
  
  Rajini will be silently watching all this. After the old man enters his house, Rajini will pick up a stone and will break one of the headlights and will walk away casually. No dialogs whatsoever till that point.
  
  Now we all know who kaaLi is!
  
  
  
  

• From: RC on Tue May 15 11:25:09 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Interesting Info about this movie... Mahendran mentioned in his book. Venu Chettiyar is the Producer of this movie .Once the whole production except the 'Chenthazham poovil' song were completed ..Venu chettiyar seen the rush of the movie and got very angry with Mahendran ..He didn't like the movie at all and afraid all his money lost since he beleived no distributer will take the movie..Now mahendran told him ,one more song is pending and that song is very important ..venu chettiyar got more angry and told he won't spend even a paise anymore and he won't allow any more shooting. Mahendran was helpless and finally he went to kamal Hassan who is friend of Mahendran and Balu Mahendra (camera man of this movie) .Kamal went to Venu chettiyar and requested him the same ..He explained How talented Mahendran and Balumahendra are ,,but Venu chettiyar was admament ..Finally kamal asked him "OK..You no need to spend anything ..Just give permission to proceed the shooting ..I will take care of money .is it OK? " ..Venu chettiyar said " Ennavo panni tholainga " ..kamal spent his money ,bought fim role and all necessary ,then they shooted 'Chenthazham poovil'..Rest is history. Mahendran mentioned in this book that he will never forget Kamal Hassan ,who is a great supporter of good cinema.

  
  
  I have read this or (I'm not sure if I ) heard Mahendran talk about this. But always wondered why Mahendran did not work with Kamal. Or did he?
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue May 15 11:26:28 2007.

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  SUPER* as an ANGRY and AGGRESSIVE youth was EXCELLENT, esp when all the confrontation with Sarathbabu were AWSOME, esp when he will get those guys to play the Melam and Nathasvaram and dance infront of sartha and humiliate him, excellent , excellent performance from an ACE actor
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue May 15 11:52:52 2007.

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  Another scene:
  
  Rajini will be beating up a lot of thugs and after that incident, his friends will try to console him and Rajini will say,
  
  naanum en thangachiyum pichai edukka dhAn indha oorukku vanthOmAm. iva aathA kitteyA pOyi sORu kEttOm
  
  Rajini can emote very well, this scene is a classic example
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Tue May 15 12:30:01 2007.

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  using hands to act
  
  mahendran makes the heroes use the hands well...esp rajni had used his hands very well to emote...
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue May 15 13:33:40 2007.

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  Easily my favourite Rajini movie. My favourite scene is the one where he meets Sarath Babu after the accident:
  "Rendu Kaiyum rendu kaalum ponaalum indha Kaalingravan pozhachikuvaan sir, Ketta paya sir avan." Amazing narrowing of the eyes to express his character..
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue May 15 15:22:40 2007.

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  Rajini would come back home after a little bit of dosage from Sarath babu. I think his sister and the other female would be little worried and he would first shout at them and almost to the juncture of bashing them all and would almost go to beat her, then he would say 'Moonja paaru' and I think "yaey yenna yenna" - finally they would all laugh their hearts out. Could Still remember the scene
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue May 15 15:29:14 2007.

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  While rajini is shaving his beard, Sarathbabu's assistant would come and say "Ayya ungalai ippovae paakanumnu sonnar"
  
  rajini would reply " shave pannittu varein solraa poda"
  
  "ippovae paakanumnu sonnar"
  
  The next screenshot would be rajini standing in front of sarathbabu's house with shaving cream allover his face and would say"Ippovae paakanumnu sonnegalamae"
  
  
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue May 15 16:14:46 2007.

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  The scene where Rajini will cry to Shobha explaining why he beat somebody on the road, when that guy said Rajini was ill-treating his sister's life or something like that! Rajini's voice will become so loud and he'll be crying alongside... Amazing scene!
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed May 16 1:03:34 2007.

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  Another scene:
  
  Rajini's manager sarathbabu comes to his city for the first time and witnesses that Rajini is using the winch to help the poor carry their stuff to the city from the mountains. Sarathbabu is like,
  
  sarkkAr sotha ipdi ellAm payanpadutha kUdathu
  
  Rajini will gives a sarcastic look and says this to the *passengers*
  
  adhu dhAn ayya sollittArulla iRangungadA
  
  Sarath asks Rajini to start the winch so that he could go to his office/site. Rajini will oblige but when the winch is exactly halfway between the city and where it started, he will stop the winch and shout,
  
  sir veLa seyyala sir, nadanthE pOnga
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 16 5:34:20 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  While rajini is shaving his beard, Sarathbabu's assistant would come and say "Ayya ungalai ippovae paakanumnu sonnar" rajini would reply " shave pannittu varein solraa poda" "ippovae paakanumnu sonnar" The next screenshot would be rajini standing in front of sarathbabu's house with shaving cream allover his face and would say"Ippovae paakanumnu sonnegalamae"

  
  
  super scene-pa athu, SUPERB* facial expression was AWSOME as usual.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Wed May 16 5:48:14 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Easily my favourite Rajini movie. My favourite scene is the one where he meets Sarath Babu after the accident: "Rendu Kaiyum rendu kaalum ponaalum indha Kaalingravan pozhachikuvaan sir, Ketta paya sir avan." Amazing narrowing of the eyes to express his character..

  
  
  
  Kannann,
  
  Before that "Paravalla sir..unga yedathula naan irundalum ippidi daan nadandhu-kuvaen..Kevalam namba yellam manushanga daane"...
  
  "Rendu Kaiyum rendu kaalum ponaalum indha Kaalingravan pozhachikuvaan sir.....Ketta Payyaaeeen Sir Avan"..then he would control himself from crying and finally "Sandosham sir...romba sandosham", I think he will salute and go..
  
  Easily the best scene of the movie
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri May 18 8:28:19 2007.

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  oh wow.
  
  last scene.
  
  rajnikant's magnanimity...
  
  
  
  if someone can steal the show even BY JUST BEING QUIET... its RAJNIKANT.
  
  Why alone shobha (who won best actress award for her performance elsewhere) sarathbabu, phataphat jayalakshmi, u name them and they all queue up behind rajnikant.
  
  One name which stands significantly away from others in the impact it creats is RAJNIKANT.
  
  After watching muLLum malarum, hindi version and mithun's performance is NOTHING comparitivley.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri May 18 8:33:15 2007.

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  I dont know if I can propose the next movie...
  
  I dont know if I should pm selva or anyone else.
  
  I would like to have the foll mvoies as movie of the week sometimes.
  
  1. Johnny
  2. ThiruviLaiyadal
  3. micheal madhana kaama rajan
  4. unnal mudiyum thambi
  5. 6il irunthu 60 varai
  6. avaL appadiththaan
  7. athE kangaL
  8. puthu puthu arthangaL
  
  as of now...
  
  dunno if some movies were already discussed.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 18 9:20:35 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  I dont know if I can propose the next movie... I dont know if I should pm selva or anyone else. I would like to have the foll mvoies as movie of the week sometimes.

  
  
  Idhukku thaan "Aadikku oruthada Amavaasaikku oruthadava TF section vara koodaathunnu sollurathu"
  
  Yes, YOu have to send me a PM. Ippadi mothamaa list pannunaa, vera yaaravathu oruthar idhu varaikkum vantha tamil padam ellaathayum post pannidu vaanga
  
  P.S: I humbly request you to nominate one movie at a time
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri May 18 9:28:54 2007.

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  sari selva sorry
  
  I nominate
  
  JOHNNY (if its not already done)
  
  as my next immy choice.
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Fri May 18 9:30:18 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  sari selva sorry I nominate JOHNNY (if its not already done) as my next immy choice.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri May 18 9:32:05 2007.

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  Fine SP !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri May 18 9:41:04 2007.

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  ANother scene:
  
  After Rajini loses his hand, his buddies will come to see him and console him. Eveyone will start crying and throwing words like naan pAthukkuREn kALi. Rajini,
  
  deii. ellArum enthiruchu pOngadA. kai pOna ennadA sethAdA pOyittEn? kAlampoorA ungaLA ukkAra vechu nAn sORu pOduvENdA
  
  Another one of Mahendran's famous close-up shots and Rajini would have shown terrific emotions
  
  Cross-posting. Actually intended to post here only
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun May 20 13:12:49 2007.

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  Listening to 'senthaazam poovil ' now - thought of posting the lyrics here ..
  
  செந்தாழம் பூவில் வந்தாடும் தென்றல்
  என் மீது மோதுதம்மா
  பூ வாசம் மேடை போடுதம்மா
  பெண்போல ஜாடை பேசுதம்மா
  அம்மம்மா ஆனந்தம்
  
  வளைந்து வ்ளைந்து போகும்பாதை மங்கை மோக கூந்தலோ
  மயங்கி மயங்கி செல்லும் வெள்ளம் பருவ நாண ஊடலோ
  ஆலங்கொடி மேலே கிளி தேன் கனிகளை தேடுது
  ஆசை குயில் பாஷை இன்றி ராகம் என்ன பாடுது
  காடுகள் மலைகள் தேவன் கலைகள்
  
  --- செந்தாழ்ம்பூவில்----
  
  அழகு மிகுந்த ராஜகுமாரி மேகமாக போகிறாள்
  ஜரிகை நெளியும் சேலை கொண்டு மலையை மூட பார்க்கிறாள்
  பள்ளம் சில உள்ளம் என ஏன் படைத்தான் ஆண்டவன்
  பட்டம் தர தேடுகின்றேன் எங்கே அந்த நாயகன்
  மலையின் காட்சி இறைவன் ஆட்சி
  
  --- செந்தாழம்பூவில்---
  
  
  இளைய பருவம் மலையில் வந்தால் ஏகம் சொர்க்க சிந்தனை
  இதழில் வழியும் பனியின் காற்று கம்பன் செய்த வர்ணனை
  ஓடை தரும் வாடை காற்று வான் உலகை காட்டுது
  உள்ளெ வரும் வெள்ளம் ஒன்று எங்கோ என்னை கூட்டுது
  மறவேன் மறவேன் அற்புத காட்சி
  
  --- செந்தாழம்பூவில்----
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Sun May 20 13:26:58 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Listening to 'senthaazam poovil ' now - thought of posting the lyrics here .. செந்தாழம் பூவில் வந்தாடும் தென்றல் என் மீது மோதுதம்மா பூ வாசம் மேடை போடுதம்மா பெண்போல ஜாடை பேசுதம்மா அம்மம்மா ஆனந்தம் வளைந்து வ்ளைந்து போகும்பாதை மங்கை மோக கூந்தலோ மயங்கி மயங்கி செல்லும் வெள்ளம் பருவ நாண ஊடலோ ஆலங்கொடி மேலே கிளி தேன் கனிகளை தேடுது ஆசை குயில் பாஷை இன்றி ராகம் என்ன பாடுது காடுகள் மலைகள் தேவன் கலைகள் --- செந்தாழ்ம்பூவில்---- அழகு மிகுந்த ராஜகுமாரி மேகமாக போகிறாள் ஜரிகை நெளியும் சேலை கொண்டு மலையை மூட பார்க்கிறாள் பள்ளம் சில உள்ளம் என ஏன் படைத்தான் ஆண்டவன் பட்டம் தர தேடுகின்றேன் எங்கே அந்த நாயகன் மலையின் காட்சி இறைவன் ஆட்சி --- செந்தாழம்பூவில்--- இளைய பருவம் மலையில் வந்தால் ஏகம் சொர்க்க சிந்தனை இதழில் வழியும் பனியின் காற்று கம்பன் செய்த வர்ணனை ஓடை தரும் வாடை காற்று வான் உலகை காட்டுது உள்ளெ வரும் வெள்ளம் ஒன்று எங்கோ என்னை கூட்டுது மறவேன் மறவேன் அற்புத காட்சி --- செந்தாழம்பூவில்----

  
  
  kannadasan
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun May 20 14:48:47 2007.

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  The climax:
  
  vaLLidA en thangachi
  
  My most favorite scene in the movie
  
  

• From: rachel on Sun May 20 17:58:05 2007.

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  shobana_in wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Listening to 'senthaazam poovil ' now - thought of posting the lyrics here .. செந்தாழம் பூவில் வந்தாடும் தென்றல் என் மீது மோதுதம்மா பூ வாசம் மேடை போடுதம்மா பெண்போல ஜாடை பேசுதம்மா அம்மம்மா ஆனந்தம் --- செந்தாழம்பூவில்---- kannadasan

  
  
  is he writing about a woman?
  
  

• From: Thamizh-ahsan on Sun May 20 20:15:02 2007.

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  What does the title Mullum Malarum means?
  
  Is it Mull AND Malar or
  
  Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama?
  
  

• From: rachel on Sun May 20 20:57:38 2007.

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  Thamizh-ahsan wrote:

  What does the title Mullum Malarum means? Is it Mull AND Malar or Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama?

  
  
  mul + malar endru artham
  
  

• From: joe on Sun May 20 21:23:45 2007.

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  rachel wrote:

  Thamizh-ahsan wrote: What does the title Mullum Malarum means? Is it Mull AND Malar or Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama? mul + malar endru artham

  
  
  No..It means MuLLum (oru naaL) Malarum.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Sun May 20 22:15:12 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  The climax: vaLLidA en thangachi My most favorite scene in the movie

  
  
  
  
  such pride!
  
  

• From: rachel on Mon May 21 0:21:11 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  rachel wrote: Thamizh-ahsan wrote: What does the title Mullum Malarum means? Is it Mull AND Malar or Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama? mul + malar endru artham No..It means MuLLum (oru naaL) Malarum.

  
  
  
  i only heard about poo malarum. i never heard about mul malarum what the hell
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 0:26:45 2007.

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  rachel wrote:

  joe wrote: rachel wrote: Thamizh-ahsan wrote: What does the title Mullum Malarum means? Is it Mull AND Malar or Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama? mul + malar endru artham No..It means MuLLum (oru naaL) Malarum. i only heard about poo malarum. i never heard about mul malarum what the hell

  
  
  If Poo (Mottu) become malar ,it is nothing unusual and not a surprise ..But If a MuL become malar ,it is unusual and surprise
  
  "Poo Ontru Puyalanathu"..will it really hapen..Just take it in poetic way.
  
  

• From: rachel on Mon May 21 0:32:57 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  rachel wrote: joe wrote: rachel wrote: Thamizh-ahsan wrote: What does the title Mullum Malarum means? Is it Mull AND Malar or Mul Kooda Malarum endru arthama? mul + malar endru artham No..It means MuLLum (oru naaL) Malarum. i only heard about poo malarum. i never heard about mul malarum what the hell If Poo (Mottu) become malar ,it is nothing unusual and not a surprise ..But If a MuL become malar ,it is unusual and surprise "Poo Ontru Puyalanathu"..will it really hapen..Just take it in poetic way.

  
  
  oh.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 21 10:31:36 2007.

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  Thiruvilayadal
  
  Thiruvilayadal (1965) is a Tamil feature film directed by A.P. Nagarajan. The cast includes Sivaji Ganesan, R. Muthuraman, Savithri, Nagesh, Manorama, and Balaiyah. It was one of the memorable films of Sivaji Ganesan and Nagesh.
  
  Plot
  
  The story comprises 4 episodes involving Lord Shiva and all 4 have different stories called as leelaigal. Each part teaches you something for life at the end. All stories have Lord Shiva as the main character and what he does to test the patience and devotions of His devotees. The sound track of this film is popular even today - after 40 years and is still played during temple festivals in Tamil Nadu.
  
  Trivia
  
  * The Dharumi scene played by Nagesh is memorable and the dialogues in that part of the movie are a feast.
  * Songs are excellent though classical.
  * The director A P Nagarajan himself did the role of Nakkeeran in the first episode.
  
  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  So, Here we go with a Nadigar Thilagam film. Since many movies have been discussed in detail in NT thread, I have selected this movie (with suggestions from HUBBERS) since it has not been discussed that much in NT thread. (Thanks to NT fans for sparing this classic )
  
  P.S: thanks for sharing ur comments on the classic MM (Mullum oru naal Malarum)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 21 10:34:47 2007.

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  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246986/
  

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  If you are a fan of mythological movies this is a must watch. Sivaji Ganesan plays Lord Shiva and plays it in a manner that people will remember it for years to come. The story comprises of 4 parts and all 4 have different stories called as leelaigal. Each part teaches you something for life at the end. Songs are excellent though classical. Sivaji's acting in this movie is just too good. The dharmi scene played by Nagesh is memorable and the dialogues in that part of the movie are a feast. It is a nice Sunday afternoon movie.

  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon May 21 10:38:40 2007.

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  Quote:

  The dharmi scene played by Nagesh is memorable and the dialogues in that part of the movie are a feast.

  
  
  Anyone who have a link to that particular scene. And if possible, pen that down here!
  
  I watched this movie when I was a kid, remember that scene 'the most'. Moreover, the scene was also played many times in television.
  
  NT
  Nagesh
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 10:40:25 2007.

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  >>> real benchmark for a BAKTHI movie
  
  >>> The best part - Nagesh- NT Dharumi's question and NT's hands replying with grace !
  
  >>> Superb music . Hats off to Shri KVM
  
  >>> NT shows his versatility - As Lord Shiva - as a poet with ego - as a fisherman - as an uneducated but worldly knowledge possessed guy - rathful hubby of Dakshayini - FINALLY AS A FATHER
  
  A.P.Nagarajan - Great man
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 10:44:53 2007.

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  Link for the movie :
  
  http://123indianonline.com/movies/thiruvilayadal-1965/
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 10:49:10 2007.

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  "THIRUVILAYADAL" - BAKTHI MOVIE REVIEW BY "YOUR PRABHU"
  
  "NADIGAR THILAGAM" SHIVAJI GANESAN, "SUPER GIRL" SAVITHRI, MUTHU RAMAN, "MADURAI MODEL" DEVIKA, "KANAVU KANNI" K.P. SUNDARAMBAL, BALAIYA, NAGESH in a Super Duper Hit movie of last century "THIRUVILAYADAL" (EAST MAN COLOR) Music by K.V. MAHADEVAN. Enjoy my Review on LOLLU Classic collections "THIRUVILAYADAL".
  
  OVERVIEW:
  
  I still remember the days when i was in India there will be one Month in a Year Called "MARGAZHI". Its some thing like FALL Month or SPRING Month in US. If that MARGAZHI month comes that's it. No one in Madras can Study or Sleep or concentrate on any thing. There will be Speakers hanging in front of your house and those speakers will be in a Cone Shape normally painted in Blue or Violet Color and it will have a stamp called K.R Sound System or M.J Sound System and all that it does is Play "THIRUVILAYADAL" audio cassette Three Times a Day. No one can ask any question to the guy who is Playing that Audio. If you ask some thing the VOLUME will increase the next day. Why i am saying this story is "When i saw the movie yesterday all the dialogs are in My heart ". Its really nice to see such movie again and it gives you a sort of Pleasure and happiness!!!
  
  STORY:
  
  The story starts in a big way. A Man with a Goat Head and a Man with Elephant Head along with Six Ugly guys wearing a Red Lungi and who are dark in color and to make them more beautiful they have painted they body with COAL POWDER (Kari Powder) and who have two Horns in their head all of them beating some musical Instruments like TABLA, GANJIRA and creating music like BACK STREET BOYS and 20 JACKET LESS 30 Years old Auntie's Dancing for the music. The music went for 10 Minutes and i got a doubt that I got some OLD MUSIC CONCERT and its not THIRUVILAYADAL.
  
  At last SHIVAJI comes with a SNAKE in his Neck with a BLUE COLOR Powder in his body with THREE PATTAIS of Thiru Noor on his fore head and his hair folded into Three Layers and it looks exactly like a "WENDYS CHICKEN BURGER" with a TIGER SKIN LEATHER SHORTS without a Shirt along with SAVITHRI who was wearing a weird Saree which is a mixture of SAREE & CHUDI and some Rajastan Glass on the saree with a Skin Color Full hand Jacket with lots and lots of Gold Ornament etc etc. and both of them walking as if they are walking in a "FASHION PARADE" in MADISON SQUARE GARDEN. Then their Two sons (MURUGA & VINAYAGA) joins and they four gives a Family Pose in a place which looks like a Dance Floor in Kansas City with lots and lots of Steam and clouds around them.
  
  A Villan so called as "NARADHAR" who basically does the Job our "SUBRAMANIYA SWAMY" brings a Fruit which he bought in "AMINJIKARAI PLATFORM". I think its some Orange or Mango which you get for 50 Paise in India and says that its a Powerful fruit (GANA PAZAM). These two kids fight for that stupid fruit that NARADHAR gave and they will be shouting and crying and howling for that fruit. SAVITHRI who is a good Mom like DEMMI MOORE In STRIPTIES does' nt like her kids fighting for the FRUIT and asks them to eat half half. But SHIVAJI says that a FRUIT from AMINJIKARAI market must be eaten fully and you must not break into piece as FLYS and MOSQUITOES will come if you break the fruit into two.
  
  And there comes the competition. NARADAR keeps a running race. Its not the regular 100M or 400 M or 10 MILES like Marathon. For a simple 50 Paise ORANGE he asks the sad kids to make a round around the world. MURUGA who is a Poor Kid boards LUFTHANSA Airways From MADRAS and some how reaches LONDON and then makes a Connection in LONDON and reaches NEW YORK and then to NAGANO, JAPAN and Via SINGAPORE he reaches MADRAS again. Sad guy he has to wait for one Full day in JFK because of the FLIGHT DELAYS and Air Traffic in SINGAPORE. His brother VINAYAGA is a smart kid. He works out a formulae using TRAVELLING SALES MAN ROUTE and makes a round in seconds and gets the fruit.
  
  MURUGA who was tired after the Security check in Madras Airport some how manages to come out and asks the fruit. Where the hell he will the get the fruit its in VINAYAGAR Stomach. His Brother who has a Elephant head and a Tail and who looks like a Teddy bear. MURUGA gets irritated and gets out of his house and the real fun starts. An old lady (K.P SUNDARAMBAL) starts to sing. She will be wearing a MAJANTHA cotton saree and she will be having a walking stick and starts her famous song,
  
  Sing along with me .....
  
  PAZAM NE APPA GANA PAZAM NE APPA
  TAMIZ GANA PAZAM NE APPA (Repeat the two lines Three times in a DONKEY TONE)
  
  THIRU SABAYIL ORUVANA
  ARVULAGA KUMARA NEEEE......
  ARUVADU SINAM ORUVADU MAYIL
  ARIYADHA SIRUVANA NEEEEEEE........ (Change your voice to MONKEY TONE)
  
  PAZAM NE APPA GANA PAZAM NE APPA
  TAMIZ GANA PAZAM NE APPA (Repeat the two lines Three times in a DIANOSER TONE)
  
  No Song or advice can stop MURUGA's Anger. So her mom starts to tell stories about their family. What and all his father has done in past. Three to four flash back comes.
  
  First Flash back is MUTHURAMAN and DEVIKA. Muthuraman who is the king of Madurai and Devika who is the queen. Muthuraman who smells Devika's head and gets a BIG DOUBT. The doubt is "DOES FEMALS HEAD HAS A NATURAL FRAGRANCE OR NOT" ..... Aha what doubt. Just think how our KINGS who ruled India has wasted their time and brain and Money. He announces 1000 Gold Dollar who clears his doubt.
  
  Nagesh comes into picture who is a Poor poet and the way he has done that part was simply superb. SIVAJI who tries to help NAGAESH and Nagesh in turn asks who are you.
  
  Sivaji replies in his famous tone (Hope everyone knows what is SIVAJI's tone)
  
  18 IYUM, 21 IYUM SERTHU
  SUPER FIGURA PARTHU
  SUPARA JOLLU VIDUM JOLLU NAAN .....
  
  
  Then a Competition comes who is the big Jollu ....... Nagesh Asks few Questions to Sivaji Like
  
  " LKG" FIGARUKU "SBOA"
  " SCHOOL" FIGARUKU " SARADHA VIDYALAYA"
  " COLLEGE" FIGARUKU KANJIPURAM ARTS
  " JEANSUKU" ETHIRAJ
  " DAVANIKU" LADY WELINGTON
  " SAREE" FIGARUKU " UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN, DETROIT"
  " CHAPA" FIGARUKU ' UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, EL PASO"
  " SUPER" FIGARUKU " BAIN SCHOOL"
  " AUNTIES" KU " ANNA NAGAR"
  " PATTIES" KU " PARANGI MALAI"
  " MID RANGE" FIGARUKU " SATHTABHAMA"
  " SUPER" FIGARUKU " SRM"
  " SONGI" FIGARUKU " CRECENT"
  " KATAIKU" STELLA MARIS
  " HALWAVUKU" VALIAMMAL
  " GILMAVUKU" VELAMMAL
  ..... The story ends as another fight goes between SIVAJI and NAKIRAN..... and all those comedy and Nagesh getting that 1000 Gold coins.
  
  There are another three flash backs in the story. All three are real Galij like Sivaji Fighting with a big Sea Whale, The whale is a real big one like the one in San Antonio Sea World. A song competition between Sivaji and Balayia and atlast the movie ends with MURUGAN understanding the fault and joins his family and the place from that day was called as "PALANI" where people goes to put their MOTTAI .....
  
  SIVAJI GANESHAN:
  
  A real super duper actor on Tamil Cinema. Each and every character he did in his Movie career are really amazing. You can list 100's of movies .. One can say that his body also acts! Each and every Vasanams he deliver with his facial expressions are really superb, I would say one must see his movies and get a feel what Acing is and how a actor must act. Not only in this movie his super hits like PASA MALAR, VIRA PANDIYA KATA BOMAN, KAPAL OTIYA THAMIZAN, MANOHARA till his MUDAL MARIYADAI ..... he is really a Super Actor and he deserves the Title "NADIGAR THILAGAM" Lollu Express wishes all the best to DR. SIVAJI GANESHAN
  
  SAVITHRI & DEVIKA:
  
  Of course DEVIKA is the Most beautiful female of 60's and 70's. My god in this movie she was toooo good. Her neat face with her flat Bottu really impressed me. I wonder why her daughter didnt get that good look. SAVITHRI is also a wonderful artist. But i still wonder how these females were able to manage their show being like a small Elephant. Almost all the artist were like that in 60's and 70's!! Savithri Gemini Ganesan "Koduthu Vaithavan"....
  
  LOLLU COMMENTS :
  
  An Excellent Comedy. It was really nice to see TIGER SKIN SHORTS and SNAKES hanging with DANCE FLOOR environment and our SIVAJI doing his CAT WALK with his TIGER SHORTS with a weird hair style. But thats how it works and thats how he made his fans to fall in his feet. If i want to say about SIVAJI i need to write another THREE pages. I will do it separately in my article section.
  
  Ever the artist who acted with Sivaji were excellent. Good Make up and ultimate songs by Sirgali Govindarajan, K.P Sundarmbal although it seems funny these days. Especially that
  
  "PATTUM NANNE PADALUM NANNE"
  PADUM UNNAI NAAN PADAL ARINDENE.....
  NAN ASIYNDAL ASYUM AGILAM ELLAME ....
  
  song .... by SIVAJI .... it takes you to another world... Good movie and a great change for anyone who are used to watching some masala movies I heartly grade this movie 90/100 for saying what?s happening in Heaven, What was the history of Lord Muruga, Lord Vinayaga, Lord Naradar ... and for the wonderful setup and for the make up.
  
  WITH LOVE,
  PRABHU,
  http://www.lolluexpress.com/thiruv.htm
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 21 10:49:59 2007.

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  "Naan asainthaal asaiyum agilam ellaamae"
  
  My favorite scene in the movie. That song was awesome.
  
  and who can forget the conversation b/w NT & Nagesh
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 21 10:51:16 2007.

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  Joe,
  
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 10:53:07 2007.

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  Awesome display by NT for Pattum naane baavamum naane ! especially the final part when some 5-6 players ( all NT ) join together and create a real delight to the eyes ! Amazing sync. work by Nadigar thilagam sir !
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon May 21 10:53:49 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Joe,

  
  
  
  
  But that review was damn hilarious
  
  Again its been long since I saw the movie so I dont have anything to say. And yeh naan asainthAl is one heck of a song
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 10:54:24 2007.

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  Watch the evergreen NT-Nagesh session
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paVn36tNRA4
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon May 21 10:56:06 2007.

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  Nakeeran,
  
  Thanks mate..
  
  

  joe wrote:

  Watch the evergreen NT-Nagesh session http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paVn36tNRA4

  
  
  Thanks a lot!!!
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 10:56:45 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Joe,

  
  
  Why shocked?
  The review is lollu ,I know ..but It shows even current generation like this movie.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon May 21 10:57:57 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Why shocked? The review is lollu ,I know ..but It shows even current generation like this movie.

  
  
  It looked a bit odd. That is why.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon May 21 10:58:39 2007.

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  One of my favorite Sivaji movies.
  
  Infact, when i was a kid, i used to "recite" the whole movie from start to finish.. ippo mukkaal vaasi marandhu pochu
  
  The Dharumi Nakkeeran episode is one of my favorites scenes in cinema ever.
  
  Sivaji
  Nagesh What a monologue!
  Dialogues
  Music
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 11:00:08 2007.

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  Any idea who penned the dialogue exchange for that Dharumi- NT scene . Amazing work .
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 11:00:36 2007.

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  Any idea who penned the dialogue exchange for that Dharumi- NT scene . Amazing work .
  
  

• From: Madavan on Mon May 21 11:02:01 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Joe, Why shocked? The review is lollu ,I know ..but It shows even current generation like this movie.

  
  
  bagthi padam enraal vayasu ellai ellam illai.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 11:04:03 2007.

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  Madavan wrote:

  joe wrote: selvakumar wrote: Joe, Why shocked? The review is lollu ,I know ..but It shows even current generation like this movie. bagthi padam enraal vayasu ellai ellam illai.

  
  
  Appadi solli vida mudiyathu ..Paktha prakalatha,lavagusa even kanthan karunai etc are cannot be enjoyed by youngsters now ..but Thiruvilayadal stands out!
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 11:06:04 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Any idea who penned the dialogue exchange for that Dharumi- NT scene . Amazing work .

  
  
  I think it should be by A.P.nagarajan himself ..Infact the fun is not much in the dialogues and it was mostly serious ..Nagesh's tremendous individuality and NT's gambeeram made the difference.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon May 21 11:08:42 2007.

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  Probably the best Devotional movie
  
  
  During my young days any Temple functions people show this movie by default. Almost every time i saw the movie during those times.
  
  Shivaji and Nagesh
  
  Songs
  
  

• From: Madavan on Mon May 21 11:11:21 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Madavan wrote: joe wrote: selvakumar wrote: Joe, Why shocked? The review is lollu ,I know ..but It shows even current generation like this movie. bagthi padam enraal vayasu ellai ellam illai. Appadi solli vida mudiyathu ..Paktha prakalatha,lavagusa even kanthan karunai etc are cannot be enjoyed by youngsters now ..but Thiruvilayadal stands out!

  
  
  true because thiruvilaiyaadal has a better story than kanthan karunai.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 11:11:29 2007.

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  Friends,
  Before production of the movie 'ThiruviLayadal' ,NT was told ,according to Purana ,Siva peruman kannai imaikka maattar ..and throughout the movie NT made sure he never close his eyes even for a fraction of second unless he sleeps ..if you guys watch this movie again ,you can notice this ..This speaks volume of NT's dedication and professionalism
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon May 21 11:15:37 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Friends, Before production of the movie 'ThiruviLayadal' ,NT was told ,according to Purana ,Siva peruman kannai imaikka maattar ..and throughout the movie NT made sure he never close his eyes even for a fraction of second unless he sleeps ..if you guys watch this movie again ,you can notice this ..This speaks volume of NT's dedication and professionalism

  
  
  unga avatar-a patha..NT's shot to reprise Gene kelly's 'singin' in the rain' madhiri irukku!!!
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Mon May 21 11:20:24 2007.

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  no no thats from Andha naal
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 11:48:42 2007.

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  when all of us talk about NT and Nagesh in ThiruviLayadal ...we should not miss Nadigayar Thilagam Saavithiri who acted as Parvathi ..I can't even imagine any other actress in the place of savithiri to match with NT's majesty .
  
  The Sivan-Sakthi fight between NT and savithri was matchless ..Savithri's bold and accurate Tamil pronounciation and elegance really matches with NT's Garjanai.
  
  

• From: Raghu on Mon May 21 12:00:14 2007.

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  Nt ?? u mean Nadigar Thilagam
  
  Joe anNe, - yes u r right, i ONLY thought about the eye lid movement after you have told, excellent from the DON of ACTING,
  
  Shivaji sir RulZZZ all the way
  
  
  I thoroughly ENJOYED the NAGESH sir and NT sir scene in the temple, HILARIOUS, esp those bodily movements NAGESH sir would do, amazing and the SIMMA KURAL of the GREATEST actor that INDIA had EVER produced Dr.SHIVAJI GANESHAN.
  
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 12:59:14 2007.

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  Highlights of the Movie 'ThiruviLayadal'
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  1.Dialogues -evergreen
  2.Music - KVM ...super duper songs for a purana movie
  3.NT,Savithri,Nagesh,Balaih Acting
  4.KB suntharambal's apperance as Avvai Paati
  5.High quality sets and effects.
  6.Outstanding screen play
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 13:28:50 2007.

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  Enjoy ThiruviLayadal songs
  
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000528.html
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 13:39:00 2007.

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  Google video link
  
  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8782970385163628171
  
  

• From: joe on Mon May 21 21:30:06 2007.

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  வாரியார் சுவாமிகள், ஒரு கோயிலில் திருவிளையாடல் புராணம் சொற்பொழிவு வழங்கிக் கொண்டு இருந்தார்.
  
  வாரியார் சுவாமியின் சொற்பொழிவு கேட்பவர்கள் மிகக் கவனமாக கேட்பார்கள். ஏனெனில், அரங்கத்தில் அமர்ந்திருப்பவர்களிடம் திடீரென்று கேள்விகள் கேட்பார். எனவே, முன்வரிசையில் அமர்பவர்கள் மிக்க கவனத்துடன் இருப்பார்கள்.
  
  சிவபெருமானின் பெருமைகளைச் சொன்னபடி இருந்த கிருபானந்தவாரியார் திடீரென்று ஒரு சிறுவனை எழுப்பி "தம்பி! தருமிக்கு பாட்டு எழுதிக் கொடுத்தது யாரு?" என்று கேட்டார்.
  
  அப்போது திருவிளையாடல் படம் வெளிவந்திருந்த சமயம்.
  
  அந்த பையன் சட்டென்று எழுந்து "சிவாஜி" என்றான்.
  
  அனைவரும் விழுந்து விழுந்து சிரித்தனர்.
  
  வாரியார் அனைவரையும் நோக்கி "ஏன் சிரிக்கிறீங்க? அந்தப் பையன் சரியாத்தான் சொல்லியிருக்கான்"
  
  "நீங்க நேருவை நேருஜி -ன்னு சொல்றீங்க, காந்தியை காந்திஜி -ன்னு சொல்றீங்க, அதைப் போல்தான் இந்தப் பையன் சிவாவை சிவாஜி-ன்னு சொன்னான், வடக்கே ஒருத்தரை உயர்வா மரியாதையாய் அழைக்க 'ஜி' சேர்ப்பது வழக்கம் , அந்த அர்த்தத்தில் 'சிவா' கூட 'ஜி' சேர்த்து சிவாஜின்னு சொல்லி இருக்கான் " என்றாரே பார்க்கலாம்.
  
  கூட்டம் வாரியாரின் நகைச்சுவைத் திறமை கண்டு வழக்கம் போல் அதிசயித்து நின்றது.
  
  

• From: kalnayak on Tue May 22 0:25:06 2007.

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  Selvakumar,
  
  Please change the title from Mullum Malarum to Thiruvilaiyaadal, so that many who have not commented Thiruvilaiyaadal will come.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue May 22 0:34:11 2007.

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  Thank you so much Selva
  
  What a pick..!
  
  Thiruvilayadal a true classic movie with some great acting by NT,Savithri...! Wonderful direction by A.P.Nagarajan
  
  I am waiting for experts like Joe, Groucho and other NT fans to speak abt this movie...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue May 22 0:54:45 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Selvakumar, Please change the title from Mullum Malarum to Thiruvilaiyaadal, so that many who have not commented Thiruvilaiyaadal will come.

  
  
  Neenga yaarunga ? I changed The title yesterday itself
  
  

• From: umaramesh on Tue May 22 3:49:09 2007.

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  Guys
  
  One should not forget MAMA KVM . He gave excellent variety in this movie.
  
  people forgot to mention about ORU NAAL PODHUMA song .
  
  I cant imagine someone else other than TMS for PATTUM NAANAE. He gave life to NT acting in this sequence.
  
  KOTTUM ISAYUM KOTTIN MORAIYUM KATTUM ENNIDAM KATHAI SOLLA VANTHAYO . He sang effortlessly .
  
  regards
  ramesh
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue May 22 3:58:46 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Highlights of the Movie 'ThiruviLayadal' ------------------------------------------------ 1.Dialogues -evergreen 2.Music - KVM ...super duper songs for a purana movie 3.NT,Savithri,Nagesh,Balaih Acting 4.KB suntharambal's apperance as Avvai Paati 5.High quality sets and effects. 6.Outstanding screen play

  
  
  joe, this is one of my favorite movies...I would love to watch it again and again...umpteen number of times...not getting bored at all...an evergreen movie...
  
  a very good movie....
  
  but I would like to comment on one aspect about Sivaji's portrayal of Lord Shiva...
  
  Lord Shiva is actually "tamasic" in nature but Sivaji Ganesh portrayed Lord Shiva as "Rajasik" in nature in Tiruvilaiyaadal...
  
  

• From: kalnayak on Tue May 22 4:58:24 2007.

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  Selva Wrote: kalnayak wrote: Selvakumar, Please change the title from Mullum Malarum to Thiruvilaiyaadal, so that many who have not commented Thiruvilaiyaadal will come. Confused2 Neenga yaarunga ? Rolling Eyes I changed The title yesterday itself Rolling Eyes

  
  
  Selva,
  The Title of the forum appeared as 'MOVIE OF THE WEEK - "Mullum Malarum"', but discussion was going on "Thiruvilayaadal". Hence I asked you to change.
  
  Naan yaaru atha solrathukkunnu ketta enna solrathu - En systemla first time appadi appear agivittatho ennavo. Aandava!!!javascript:emoticon('')
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 5:03:17 2007.

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  Kalnayak,
  The title changed from the begining ..May be something wrong with your browser ,you should have refresh the page.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 22 5:06:06 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Selva, The Title of the forum appeared as 'MOVIE OF THE WEEK - "Mullum Malarum"', but discussion was going on "Thiruvilayaadal". Hence I asked you to change. Naan yaaru atha solrathukkunnu ketta enna solrathu - En systemla first time appadi appear agivittatho ennavo. Aandava!!!javascript:emoticon('')

  
  
  He did not mean it in that way. It was just at a lighter sense.
  
  by the way, From the time the movie was decided as Thiruvilayaadal the title was changed. Issue could be with ur browser
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue May 22 5:11:59 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Naan yaaru atha solrathukkunnu ketta enna solrathu - En systemla first time appadi appear agivittatho ennavo. Aandava!!!javascript:emoticon('')

  
  
  I didn't mean that way. IF that sounded like that to you, my apologies.
  I just said that I changed the title of the thread from the beginning itself. Always I edit the title, right after my first post on the next movie in this thread.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 5:57:26 2007.

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  leosimha wrote:

  Lord Shiva is actually "tamasic" in nature but Sivaji Ganesh portrayed Lord Shiva as "Rajasik" in nature in Tiruvilaiyaadal...

  
  
  I am not sure what excatly you mean
  
  In my understanding ,Unlike Lord krishna (who is passive) ,LordSiva is known for energetic and agression. (Correct me if I am wrong)
  
  Moreover ,Lord siva comes as Viragu vetti and Meenavan .
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue May 22 6:03:16 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  leosimha wrote: Lord Shiva is actually "tamasic" in nature but Sivaji Ganesh portrayed Lord Shiva as "Rajasik" in nature in Tiruvilaiyaadal... I am not sure what excatly you mean In my understanding ,Unlike Lord krishna (who is passive) ,LordSiva is known for energetic and agression. (Correct me if I am wrong) Moreover ,Lord siva comes as Viragu vetti and Meenavan .

  
  
  Lord Shiva or Rudra is TAMASIC.....but since he is the Destroyer of the WORLD, that is why you say he is known for energetic and aggression. Yes, indeed he came as Viragu Vetti and Meenavan and he portrayed it very well. Also he portrayed the other roles with ease and the aggresiveness of Lord Siva role was done superbly.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 22 6:45:00 2007.

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  As per my PM to Joe, he has said all I wanted to say and more about this movie.
  
  But here is what I feel about this movie. This movie, while is about NT's performance, also shows NT's generosity in allowing other talents to flourish.
  
  Talk about Nagesh, two movies flash before us: One is Kathalikka Neeramillai and another is Thiruvilayadal.
  
  Dharumi's scene with NT, I mean, lord Siva is brilliant showcase of acting and reacting. They play off each other beautifully, and Nagesh really goes over-the-top, in a delightful way. Even NT, it seems, joked that he 'swalllowed' NT in that scene.
  
  Then, as Joe and other's put it, check out Savithiri's performance. Nobody is chalking out anybody, everyone gives their best - and the result is the classic.
  
  Also, can anyone forget Palliah. Just looking at the characters arrogance, you feel like wanting to go over and knock his head. Such conviction in his role.
  
  Let us also not forget the forgotten movie star T.R. Mahalinggam, who, while completely lost in these flood of majestic talents. just blew our minds away with his powerful Isai Tamizh Nee Seitha song.
  
  Kamal used to tease about the competition scene whereby Lord Siva, backed by TMS voice, defeats Pallaiyah, backed by Balamuralikrishna's voice. "Just because it's Sivaperuman, it doesn't mean that you can beat Balamuralikrishna's singing!," he'd mockingly argue.
  
  Such was the power of Oru Naal Pothuma song.
  
  You can sit all night long and talk about this movie. This gem of a classic that APN put together. He played Nakkeeran in this movie. and we all know his immortal line, "Nettrikann tirappinum kutram, kutramee".
  
  What a movie! These are the movies that make me proud to be one of the pazhaya kalattu manusan (title that even my mother referred to me).
  
  

• From: umaramesh on Tue May 22 7:36:03 2007.

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  Kamal used to tease about the competition scene whereby Lord Siva, backed by TMS voice, defeats Pallaiyah, backed by Balamuralikrishna's voice. "Just because it's Sivaperuman, it doesn't mean that you can beat Balamuralikrishna's singing!," he'd mockingly argue.
  
  Same Balamurali krishna sang for MGR(I think NAVARATHINAM).
  Theatre la yarrum illa
  
  He may be big shot in carnatic side but he cannot beat TMS as far as cine music is concerned.
  
  groucho070: Thanks for not mentioning KVM name in your article, otherwise very good one.
  
  regards
  ramesh
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 9:10:40 2007.

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  சிவன்: இப்ப புலவன் கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டிற்கு இச்சபையில் குற்றம் கூறியவன் எவன்?
  
  மன்னன்: அவன் இவனென்ற ஏக வசனம் வேண்டாம். அவையடக்கத்துடன் கேட்டால் அதற்கு தக்க பதில் கூறுவார்கள்.
  
  சிவன்: அப்படியானால் மன்னரைவிட மற்றவருக்கு இங்கு அதிகாரமோ?
  
  மன்னன்: இது அரச சபை அன்று. தமிழ் திருச்சபை. இங்கே சகலருக்கும் சம உரிமை உண்டு.
  
  சிவன்: அதனால்தான் தருமி கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டில் தவறு கண்டீர்களோ?
  
  நக்கீரன்: ஆம். பழுதுள்ள பாட்டாய் இருந்ததால் பரிசுக்கு அருகதை இல்லையென்று தடுத்துக் கூறியவன் நான்தான்!
  
  சிவன்: யார் இந்தக் கிழவன்?
  
  செண்: முத்தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைமைப் புலவர் நக்கீரர்.
  
  சிவன்: ஆ கீரன்! தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைவன் என்ற ஆணவத்திலேதான் பாட்டிலே குறை கண்டீரோ? என்ன குற்றம் கண்டீர்?
  
  நக்கீரன்: முதற்கண் பாட்டை இயற்றியது யார்? அதற்கு பதில் தேவை.
  
  சிவன்: யாம்! யாம்! இயற்றினோம்!
  
  நக்கீரன்: எழுதிய நீர் வராமல் அதை இன்னொருவரிடம் கொடுத்து அனுப்பியதற்கு காரணம்?
  
  சிவன்: அது நடந்து முடிந்த கதை. தொடங்கிய பிரச்சினைக்கு வாரும்!
  
  நக்கீரன்: புலவருக்கு முதலில் பொய்யுரை தேவை இல்லை. அதைத்தாம் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
  
  சிவன்: புரிந்தது, புரியாதது, தெரிந்தது, தெரியாதது, பிறந்தது, பிறவாதது அனைத்தும் அறிவோம். அதுபற்றி உமது அறிவுரை தேவை இல்லை. எல்லாம் எமக்கு தெரியும்.
  
  நக்கீரன்: எல்லாம் தெரிந்துவிட்டால் எழுதும் பாட்டிலே பிழை இருக்காதென்று அர்த்தமா? அது பற்றி யாம் குற்றம் கூறக் கூடாதா?
  
  சிவன்: கீரன்... என் பாட்டில் குற்றம் கூறுகிறாராம்! கூறும். கூறிப்பாரும்.
  
  மன்னன்: புலவர்களே! சாந்தமாக உரையாடுங்கள். புலமைக்கு சர்ச்சை தேவைதான். ஆனால் அது சண்டையாக மாறிவிடக் கூடாது.
  
  சிவன்: சண்டையும், சச்சரவும் புலவர்களின் பரம்பரைச் சொத்து. அதை மாற்ற யாராலும் இயலாது. சற்று பொறுத்திருந்து பாரும்! நக்கீரரே எமது பாட்டில் எங்கு குற்றம் கண்டீர்? சொற்சுவையிலா? அல்லது பொருட்சுவையிலா?
  
  நக்கீரன்: சொல்லில் குற்றமில்லை. இருந்தாலும் அது மன்னிக்கப்படலாம். பொருளில்தான் குற்றமிருக்கிறது.
  
  
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue May 22 9:53:28 2007.

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  umaramesh wrote:

  Kamal used to tease about the competition scene whereby Lord Siva, backed by TMS voice, defeats Pallaiyah, backed by Balamuralikrishna's voice. "Just because it's Sivaperuman, it doesn't mean that you can beat Balamuralikrishna's singing!," he'd mockingly argue. Same Balamurali krishna sang for MGR(I think NAVARATHINAM). Theatre la yarrum illa He may be big shot in carnatic side but he cannot beat TMS as far as cine music is concerned. groucho070: Thanks for not mentioning KVM name in your article, otherwise very good one. regards ramesh

  
  
  
  There is No need to degrade DR.BMK,he had aBETTER voice than TMS, who sings through his nose rather than throat,
  
  DR.SPB can beat TMS any day in versatility and voice, no doubt!, besides TMS's head is the HEAVIEST amongst singers for NO REASON!
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue May 22 10:27:56 2007.

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  Raghu sir
  
  Is it wrong if someone sings through throat !?
  
  I presume you are a musical expert . Thats why U are coming up with such an expert comment . Pl enlighten us with technical explanation on this.
  
  And U have rating Dr. BMK better . can you list some 20 songs of BMK in cinema . Not carnatic songs.
  
  Besides, how do you rate Dr. SPB better than TMS ? What yardstick you are applying for this ? ( I am not supporting both but curious to know from you )
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue May 22 10:40:52 2007.

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  Great work joe
  Please finish the entire dialogue
  

  joe wrote:

  சிவன்: இப்ப புலவன் கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டிற்கு இச்சபையில் குற்றம் கூறியவன் எவன்? மன்னன்: அவன் இவனென்ற ஏக வசனம் வேண்டாம். அவையடக்கத்துடன் கேட்டால் அதற்கு தக்க பதில் கூறுவார்கள். சிவன்: அப்படியானால் மன்னரைவிட மற்றவருக்கு இங்கு அதிகாரமோ? மன்னன்: இது அரச சபை அன்று. தமிழ் திருச்சபை. இங்கே சகலருக்கும் சம உரிமை உண்டு. சிவன்: அதனால்தான் தருமி கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டில் தவறு கண்டீர்களோ? நக்கீரன்: ஆம். பழுதுள்ள பாட்டாய் இருந்ததால் பரிசுக்கு அருகதை இல்லையென்று தடுத்துக் கூறியவன் நான்தான்! சிவன்: யார் இந்தக் கிழவன்? செண்: முத்தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைமைப் புலவர் நக்கீரர். சிவன்: ஆ கீரன்! தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைவன் என்ற ஆணவத்திலேதான் பாட்டிலே குறை கண்டீரோ? என்ன குற்றம் கண்டீர்? நக்கீரன்: முதற்கண் பாட்டை இயற்றியது யார்? அதற்கு பதில் தேவை. சிவன்: யாம்! யாம்! இயற்றினோம்! நக்கீரன்: எழுதிய நீர் வராமல் அதை இன்னொருவரிடம் கொடுத்து அனுப்பியதற்கு காரணம்? சிவன்: அது நடந்து முடிந்த கதை. தொடங்கிய பிரச்சினைக்கு வாரும்! நக்கீரன்: புலவருக்கு முதலில் பொய்யுரை தேவை இல்லை. அதைத்தாம் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். சிவன்: புரிந்தது, புரியாதது, தெரிந்தது, தெரியாதது, பிறந்தது, பிறவாதது அனைத்தும் அறிவோம். அதுபற்றி உமது அறிவுரை தேவை இல்லை. எல்லாம் எமக்கு தெரியும். நக்கீரன்: எல்லாம் தெரிந்துவிட்டால் எழுதும் பாட்டிலே பிழை இருக்காதென்று அர்த்தமா? அது பற்றி யாம் குற்றம் கூறக் கூடாதா? சிவன்: கீரன்... என் பாட்டில் குற்றம் கூறுகிறாராம்! கூறும். கூறிப்பாரும். மன்னன்: புலவர்களே! சாந்தமாக உரையாடுங்கள். புலமைக்கு சர்ச்சை தேவைதான். ஆனால் அது சண்டையாக மாறிவிடக் கூடாது. சிவன்: சண்டையும், சச்சரவும் புலவர்களின் பரம்பரைச் சொத்து. அதை மாற்ற யாராலும் இயலாது. சற்று பொறுத்திருந்து பாரும்! நக்கீரரே எமது பாட்டில் எங்கு குற்றம் கண்டீர்? சொற்சுவையிலா? அல்லது பொருட்சுவையிலா? நக்கீரன்: சொல்லில் குற்றமில்லை. இருந்தாலும் அது மன்னிக்கப்படலாம். பொருளில்தான் குற்றமிருக்கிறது.

  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 10:45:54 2007.

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  This monumental epic adventure detailing the various incarnations of lord Shiva, was a phenomenal musical and a showcase of rare acting talent. Every single dialogue in this movie is a bible to any Tamil movie lover. Though this film contained some immortal scenes like the impersonation by the poet Darumi(a lifetime performance by nagesh), the musical duel between panapathrar(TR Mahalingam) and Hemanadha Bagavadhar(Baliah), the wordily duel between lord Shiva and the court poet Nakeeran go high on rating. The poet finds fault with poetry written by the lord himself. In response, lord Shiva opens his 3rd eye indication who he is. But Nakeeran, in his love for the language, says that despite showing the 3rd eye, a fault remains a fault. Yet another unmatched performance by Late Sivaji
  
  http://www.fusionrental.com/view_media_details.php?type=movie&mediaId=1149&languageId=7
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue May 22 10:47:29 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Raghu sir Is it wrong if someone sings through throat !? I presume you are a musical expert . Thats why U are coming up with such an expert comment . Pl enlighten us with technical explanation on this. And U have rating Dr. BMK better . can you list some 20 songs of BMK in cinema . Not carnatic songs. Besides, how do you rate Dr. SPB better than TMS ? What yardstick you are applying for this ? ( I am not supporting both but curious to know from you )

  
  
  Nakeeran sir,
  
  I am singer as well, but not professionaly trained like Dr.KJY, Dr.BMK, Dr.PBS, Dr.SS.Givendarajan, TMS, ..etc etc.. but more like Dr.SPB sir
  
  IMHO, Dr.SPB stands above all, including the GREATM.rafi, Kishore Kumar and Ghantasala sir, simply based on DEEP rich voice and the VERSTAILE factor.
  
  If you dont believe the fact i am singer, pls pm me, i will send you some songs via email.
  
  Thanks
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 10:49:10 2007.

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  Digital ThiruviLayadal
  
  http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-30FexsUyc68Y3Ztx3WgzbNAEmQ--?cq=1&p=78
  
  Just for fun
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Tue May 22 10:49:13 2007.

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  raghu is right
  
  spb voice is both romantic and manly
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue May 22 10:49:22 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Friends, Before production of the movie 'ThiruviLayadal' ,NT was told ,according to Purana ,Siva peruman kannai imaikka maattar ..and throughout the movie NT made sure he never close his eyes even for a fraction of second unless he sleeps ..if you guys watch this movie again ,you can notice this ..This speaks volume of NT's dedication and professionalism

  
  
  Dear Joe,
  
  Just as Groucho said you have single handedly written all that was there to be told about this great epic. Regarding the eyelids, I have strained myself watching especially the " Siva Thandavam" scene and everytime I would end up battering my eyelids while the Emperor of Acting would have simply kept his eyes open throughout. Thanks for bringing out this nuance which many people are not aware of.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue May 22 10:50:18 2007.

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  Raghu sir
  
  No need to send PM on this as you have already opened a pandora's box by calling TMS as someone who sings through the nose .
  
  Take it that he used to sing through the nose. Is it a great fundamental error according to nuances of music if someone sings through the nose ?
  
  I believe that you are a singer. No issues.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue May 22 10:53:35 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  joe wrote: Friends, Before production of the movie 'ThiruviLayadal' ,NT was told ,according to Purana ,Siva peruman kannai imaikka maattar ..and throughout the movie NT made sure he never close his eyes even for a fraction of second unless he sleeps ..if you guys watch this movie again ,you can notice this ..This speaks volume of NT's dedication and professionalism Dear Joe, Just as Groucho said you have single handedly written all that was there to be told about this great epic. Regarding the eyelids, I have strained myself watching especially the " Siva Thandavam" scene and everytime I would end up battering my eyelids while the Emperor of Acting would have simply kept his eyes open throughout. Thanks for bringing out this nuance which many people are not aware of. Regards

  
  
  Murali Sar
  
  In a lighter vein , just look at the song Paatum naane again . Especially after he stops singing midway. And he in his own style oru kan adipaaru ... and then Naan asaindhaal asayum akilamellame !
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue May 22 10:55:22 2007.

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  I don't know how many times i've heard the dialogs of this movie right from my birth
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 10:56:42 2007.

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  Guys,
  Request you to back to discussion on ThiruViLayadal
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 22 11:02:27 2007.

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  Murali Sir,
  Thanks for your visit here and nice words
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue May 22 11:02:50 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  சிவன்: இப்ப புலவன் கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டிற்கு இச்சபையில் குற்றம் கூறியவன் எவன்? மன்னன்: அவன் இவனென்ற ஏக வசனம் வேண்டாம். அவையடக்கத்துடன் கேட்டால் அதற்கு தக்க பதில் கூறுவார்கள். சிவன்: அப்படியானால் மன்னரைவிட மற்றவருக்கு இங்கு அதிகாரமோ? மன்னன்: இது அரச சபை அன்று. தமிழ் திருச்சபை. இங்கே சகலருக்கும் சம உரிமை உண்டு. சிவன்: அதனால்தான் தருமி கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டில் தவறு கண்டீர்களோ? நக்கீரன்: ஆம். பழுதுள்ள பாட்டாய் இருந்ததால் பரிசுக்கு அருகதை இல்லையென்று தடுத்துக் கூறியவன் நான்தான்! சிவன்: யார் இந்தக் கிழவன்? செண்: முத்தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைமைப் புலவர் நக்கீரர். சிவன்: ஆ கீரன்! தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைவன் என்ற ஆணவத்திலேதான் பாட்டிலே குறை கண்டீரோ? என்ன குற்றம் கண்டீர்? நக்கீரன்: முதற்கண் பாட்டை இயற்றியது யார்? அதற்கு பதில் தேவை. சிவன்: யாம்! யாம்! இயற்றினோம்! நக்கீரன்: எழுதிய நீர் வராமல் அதை இன்னொருவரிடம் கொடுத்து அனுப்பியதற்கு காரணம்? சிவன்: அது நடந்து முடிந்த கதை. தொடங்கிய பிரச்சினைக்கு வாரும்! நக்கீரன்: புலவருக்கு முதலில் பொய்யுரை தேவை இல்லை. அதைத்தாம் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். சிவன்: புரிந்தது, புரியாதது, தெரிந்தது, தெரியாதது, பிறந்தது, பிறவாதது அனைத்தும் அறிவோம். அதுபற்றி உமது அறிவுரை தேவை இல்லை. எல்லாம் எமக்கு தெரியும். நக்கீரன்: எல்லாம் தெரிந்துவிட்டால் எழுதும் பாட்டிலே பிழை இருக்காதென்று அர்த்தமா? அது பற்றி யாம் குற்றம் கூறக் கூடாதா? சிவன்: கீரன்... என் பாட்டில் குற்றம் கூறுகிறாராம்! கூறும். கூறிப்பாரும். மன்னன்: புலவர்களே! சாந்தமாக உரையாடுங்கள். புலமைக்கு சர்ச்சை தேவைதான். ஆனால் அது சண்டையாக மாறிவிடக் கூடாது. சிவன்: சண்டையும், சச்சரவும் புலவர்களின் பரம்பரைச் சொத்து. அதை மாற்ற யாராலும் இயலாது. சற்று பொறுத்திருந்து பாரும்! நக்கீரரே எமது பாட்டில் எங்கு குற்றம் கண்டீர்? சொற்சுவையிலா? அல்லது பொருட்சுவையிலா? நக்கீரன்: சொல்லில் குற்றமில்லை. இருந்தாலும் அது மன்னிக்கப்படலாம். பொருளில்தான் குற்றமிருக்கிறது.

  
  
  execllent work Joe anNe,
  
  I love one bit so much. which is as follows
  
  
  Shivaji :Nakeera Nandra ennai paar, naan ezhuthiya paatu Kotramma
  
  
  Nakeeran: Netrikan thirapinum kutram kutrame
  
  excellent excellent
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue May 22 20:28:55 2007.

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  Days of masculine voice ended with TMS. Now feminine voices rule, unfortunately beginning with SP Bala himself.
  of course there have been singers like Malaysia Vasudevan and Shankar Mahadevan, but they do not sing as much as the regular feminine voiced singers.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 22 22:38:24 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Days of masculine voice ended with TMS. Now feminine voices rule, unfortunately beginning with SP Bala himself. of course there have been singers like Malaysia Vasudevan and Shankar Mahadevan, but they do not sing as much as the regular feminine voiced singers.

  
  
  You gotta be kidding me, NOV. SPB's earlier effort is more like that of PBS and ALR. Now, are their voice feminine? What if we take one step back and look at AMR.
  
  SPB can go any direction he wants. Check out the songs he sang for NT. Pottu Vaitha Mugamoo. You call that feminine? Or Ellorum Paadunggal in Naan Vazhavaippen.
  
  Or even the songs he sang for Rajini and Kamal.
  
  Oh well. I adore SPB. I think he is the greatest as of now. Period. So, I am biased. So, forgive me NOV, if I got emotional.
  
  
  Umaramesh,
  
  Thanks for mentioning that I did not mention KVM. I shall rectify that immediately .
  
  Here I go: KVM.
  
  

• From: Madavan on Tue May 22 22:41:38 2007.

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  SPB is the best singer ever to walk tamil cinema. And he is the most versatile.
  
  Anyway I always thought TMS's voice was too femine and he sang through his nose and ears
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 22 23:01:32 2007.

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  எங்கே
  
  எங�கே
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  சிவன�: "கொங�க�தேர� வாழ�க�கை அஞ�சிறைத� த�ம�பி
  காமம� செப�பாத� கண�டத� மொழிமோ
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  அறியவ�ம� உளவோ நீ அறிய�ம� பூவே"
  
  - இத� தான� எமத� செய�ய�ள�
  
  நக�கீரன�: இதன� உட�கர�த�த�
  
  சிவன�: தலைவன�, தலைவியின� காதலில� மெய� மறந�த�,
  "� த�ம�பி இனத�தை சேர�ந�த உயர�ந�த ஜாதி வண�டே
  நீ கண�ட மலர�களில� இம�மங�கையின� கூந�தலைப� போல�
  மணம�ள�ள மலர�ம� உண�டோ" என�ற� கேட�பதைப� போல� பாடியிர�க�கிறேன�.
  
  நக�கீரன�: இதன� மூலம� நீங�கள� தெரிவிக�க�ம� கர�த�த�
  
  சிவன�: ஹ .. ஹ... ப�ரியவில�லை!! இயற�கையிலேயே பெண�ணின� கூந�தல�க�க� மணம� உண�ட� என�பத� தான� எமத� தீர�ப�ப�
  
  நக�கீரன�: ஒர�க�கால�ம� இர�க�க ம�டியாத�, வாசனாதி திரவியங�களை பூசிக�கொள�வதினால�ம�, தொடர�ந�த� மலர�களை சூடிக�கொள�வதினால�ம� தான� ஒர� பெண�ணின� கூந�தல�க�க� மணம� இர�க�க ம�டிய�மே தவிர, இயற�கையிலேயே வெற�ங�கூந�தல�க�க� ஒர� கால�ம� மணம� இர�க�க ம�டியாத�.
  
  சிவன�: தேவலோகப� பெண�கள�க�க�?
  
  நக�கீரன�: ஈரேழ� பதினான�க� லோகப� பெண�கள�க�க�ம� அதே கதி தான�.
  
  சிவன�: உமத� நாக�கில� இர�ந�த� உலவ�கிறாளே கலைமகள� அவள�க�க�ம� அதே அப�படித�தானோ!
  
  நக�கீரன�: கலைமகள� என�ன, நான� அன�றாட�ம� வழிபட�ம� ஈசன�க�க� இடப�பக�கம� அம�ர�ந�திர�க�கிறாளே அன�னை மலைமகள�, உமையவள� அவள�க�க�ம� அதே விதிப�படித�தான�.
  
  சிவன�: உண�மையாக
  
  நக�கீரன�: உண�மையாக
  
  சிவன�: நிச�சயமாக
  
  நக�கீரன�: நிச�சயமாக
  
  சிவன�: உமத� தமிழ� மீத� ஆணையாக
  
  நக�கீரன�: எமத� தமிழ�ப� ப�லமை மீத� ஆணையாக.
  
  சிவன�: நக�கீரா... நன�றாக என�னைப� பார�! நான� எழ�திய தமிழ�ப� பாட�ட� க�ற�றமா
  
  நக�கீரன�: (மனதில�:... ஆண�டவா! இறைவா! ) ப�லவரே... நீரே ம�க�கண� ம�தல�வன�ம� ஆக�க. உமத� நெற�றிக ஒர� கண�ணை திறந�த� காட�டியபோத�ம�, உமத� நெற�றியெலாம� கண�ணாக�கி ச�ட�ட போத�ம� க�ற�றம� க�ற�ற�மே.
  
  நெற�றிக�கண� திறப�பின�ம� க�ற�றம� க�ற�றமே!
  
  சிவன�: சங�கதனை கீர� கீர� என�ற� அற�க�க�ம� நக�கீரனோ எம� கவியை ஆராய�ந�த� சொல�லத� தக�கவன� (sigh...shivaji's voice worth a million here)
  
  நக�கீரன�: சங�கற�ப�பதெங�கள� க�லம�... சங�கரனார�கேத� க�லம�?!
  சங�கை அறிந�த�ண�ட� வாழ�வோம�...ஹரனே உம�மைப� போல� இரந�த�ண�ட� வாழ�வதில�லை.
  
  சிவன�: நக�கீரா....
  
  (ஆண�டவா... இறைவா...
  ஆதிய�ம� நீயே
  அந�தம�ம� நீயே
  ஊழிய�ம� நீயே....)
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 22 23:10:01 2007.

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  what can I say about the movie!!!
  
  Its NO.1 MOVIE in my fav all time list, which stays CLOSE to my heart.
  
  I breathed Shivaji... through out. I became shivaji fan, BECAUSE of this movie.
  
  When I was a kid, such was t he impact , that, I was visualising lord shiva in the form of shivaji
  
  Songs... STEAL my h eart.
  
  "பார�த�தா பச� மரம�
  பட�த�த� விட�டா நெட�மரம�...."
  
  one of the best philosophical song.
  
  "ஒன�றானவன�
  உர�வில� இரண�டானவன�.."
  
  kbs at her best.
  
  Ive never seen a movie more than 3 times (that too veryyyyyyyy rarely if I really like a movie I see it repeatedly)
  
  Ive seen
  
  MMKR 8 times
  aaril irunthu aruvathu varai 5 times
  (record acc to me)
  
  but the amazing record is yet to come...
  
  IVE SEEN THIRUVILAIYAADAL...
  
  25 TIMES till now
  
  I can see 200 TIMES or more too..... and never get tired.
  
  His style, walk, grace.... simply too good.
  
  I can WRITE THE DIALOGUES of this movie byheart.
  
  Such movies talk about HOW MYTHOLOGICAL OR BHAKTHI MOVIES should be made... not like how its made t hese days with graphics and indecent dances and portraying arrogance / evil/ voodo instead of concentrating more on bhakthi.
  
  
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue May 22 23:16:57 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Such movies talk about HOW MYTHOLOGICAL OR BHAKTHI MOVIES should be made... not like how its made t hese days with graphics and indecent dances and portraying arrogance / evil/ voodo instead of concentrating more on bhakthi. [/tscii]

  
  
  I missed this part. I agree with SP here. It's a Bakthi movie with quality content. These days, it's the package, the wrapper that looks glossy. The rest is terrible. Just badly made B-grade monster movies without any grace.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 22 23:17:24 2007.

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  Nagesh-stays in our mind
  savithri-did a good job
  muthuraman/devika/manorama/balaiyya/other stars-did th eir job well
  
  SHIVAJI- LIVES in this movie
  
  What more can be said. The song paattum naanE... he would play the role of almost all musicians. If we watch carefully, each one would have unique mannerisms while performing for the song.
  
  Person who says "jathi" would even look out and relax (so naturally) when others are performing.
  
  MINUTE CARE.
  METICULOUS details done with DEDICATION.
  
  The more I talk, I get an urge to watch this movie... again.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 22 23:20:31 2007.

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  Songs remind me...
  
  T.R.M wowwwwwwwww... what voice!
  
  "இசைத் தமிழ் நீ செய்த அரும் சாதனை"
  
  The pitch he lifts, is difficult even for best singers to take it up high without faultering.
  
  TMS awesome.
  KBS shines.
  BALAMURALIKRISHNA mesmerises.
  ...
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 22 23:23:17 2007.

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  Balaiya would have done his ultimate movie when he crosses his leg with utmost pride
  
  "இசை தெய்வம் நானடா"...
  
  the song would end with a sharp abrupt note/beat, with him lifting his head high and mighty towards the king.
  
  One cant help smiling.
  
  ThiruviLaiyaadal.
  
  A FEAST which can SATE all OUR SENSES.
  
  

• From: Badri on Tue May 22 23:25:51 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Balaiya would have done his ultimate movie when he crosses his leg with utmost pride "இசை தெய்வம் நானடா"... the song would end with a sharp abrupt note/beat, with him lifting his head high and mighty towards the king. One cant help smiling.

  
  
  Yes, and BMK's singing (with an arrogant touch) complements Balaiya's action!!!
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue May 22 23:34:31 2007.

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  When he starts the song "Paatum Naane...." for the first time, you can see the majestic body language by NT.
  
  "Koothum isayiyum kootrin murayum
  Kaatum ennidam kadhai solla vandhaayo?..!!"
  
  "Naan asaindhal asayum agilamellame
  arivaai manidha un aanavam peridhaa?"
  
  
  
  ...and in that Dharumi-Sivan scene
  
  "Serndhe irrupadhu?"
  
  "Varumayum Pulamayum..." and NT points Nagesh
  
  Naagesh ..." Ahemm...seri seri.."
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue May 22 23:35:27 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  Oh well. I adore SPB. I think he is the greatest as of now. Period. So, I am biased. So, forgive me NOV, if I got emotional

  But of course Rakesh. Dont I know you?
  
  I agree that AMR, ALR, PBS all had soft voices. But then again, they were never mainstream singers like TMS and SPB.
  After TMS, only SPB ruled TFM and thus my statement of TMS being the last of the masculine voices.
  
  I love SPB as much as you (and maybe even more especially in the humility section) but then we have to call a spade, a spade havent we?
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue May 22 23:43:43 2007.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paVn36tNRA4&mode=related&search=
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_I21NjXeU&mode=related&search=
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X4zc0BeXno&mode=related&search=
  
  
  
  

• From: kalnayak on Wed May 23 0:14:11 2007.

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  Selva,
  
  'Neenga Yaarunga'nnu kaettathula, apdi agivittathu. No apologies and I feel sorry for misunderstanding your words. The problem was due to my browser.
  
  Regarding Thiruvilaiyaadal - I doubt even Telugu cinema has produced such a great puranic movie. In general I had a feeling that very good puranic movies were made only in Telugu during peak NTR & ANR period. This movie proved Tamil Film Industry is not less in glory of making grand puranic movies. Many have mentioned about various features that make this movie a great. In the nineties also this film was running to packed houses for months in ordinary towns of Tamilnadu. I have watched this movie a large number of times and currently I have a CD of this movie to watch whenever I wish. Its greatness is due to many factors - APN, KVM, BMKrishna, TMS, PSuseela, TRMahalingam, Nagesh, Paliah, Devika, Muthuraman, Savithri etc. and above all NT SivajiGanesan as Lord S(h)iva.
  
  Many of u might be knowing that when Sirkaali Govindarajan was asked to sing the 'Orunaal pothuma' song, he denied stating that he didn't like his song to lose to TMS's 'Paatum Naane' song, but BMKrishna didn't think like that - both the songs are great. I like TRMahalingam's 'Isai Thamizh ...' song very much.
  
  I had a strong feeling that even some more stories of Thiruvilayadarpuranam could have been made as sequels to this film with same set of (main) actors. Current cine industry can just use the name of the film but not dared to do remake this.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 23 0:35:13 2007.

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  Nanri Ajithfederer!
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 23 1:01:22 2007.

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  kalnayak wrote:

  Current cine industry can just use the name of the film but not dared to do remake this.

  
  
  Hmm..People may complain I am going overboard when I say this
  
  I usually think about what if an actor named 'Ganesan' was not born in Tamil Nadu ..I couldn't imagine what if movies like ThiruviLayadal, Kattabomman ,Karnan can't have ganesan .Infact I can't even get a picture of it.
  
  There may be actors good enough in Voice modulation and proficiency in Tamil ,but they lack in look,Gambeeram ,Midukku etc ..Some others may have good look ,gambeeram ,but lack in Tamil pronounciation and modulation.. But How unique we have had an actor with all these qualities to almost maximum ..When I think about it ,I always feel that Ganesan is a gift of GOD for us Tamils (Sorry ! I am emotional).
  
  Ingivanai Yaam peRave enna thavam seithu vittom!
  
  

• From: umaramesh on Wed May 23 3:54:28 2007.

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  Thanks for mentioning that I did not mention KVM. I shall rectify that immediately .
  
  Here I go: KVM.
  
  romba /romba thanks.
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 23 5:55:19 2007.

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  Mookala padirathu Masculine -na
  
  TMS, MV, and MOST of the hindi singers these days all should be masculine singers
  
  Masculine defines - Bass, bass means how much bass or deepness you have at note 1, ie 'Muthalank kattai' there are 8 kattai's in a Human vocal range, while male singers bass range from 1-4, females singers range from 4-8.
  
  If u want to know about DEEP voices, pls listen to Shankaraparanam songs, listen to 'Thulli thulli' song from Sirpikuzh Muthu song!
  
  where Dr.SPB would sing 'aaa' from 4th kattai to 1st kattai. that DEEPNESS can not be beaten by any other singers, only close contender to Dr.SPB in this aspect is Dr.BMK and Kishore Kumar.
  
  can some one tell me a song which TMS sang in a very deep voice?
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 6:30:50 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I usually think about what if an actor named 'Ganesan' was not born in Tamil Nadu ..I couldn't imagine what if movies like ThiruviLayadal, Kattabomman ,Karnan can't have ganesan .Infact I can't even get a picture of it. There may be actors good enough in Voice modulation and proficiency in Tamil ,but they lack in look,Gambeeram ,Midukku etc ..Some others may have good look ,gambeeram ,but lack in Tamil pronounciation and modulation.. But How unique we have had an actor with all these qualities to almost maximum ..When I think about it ,I always feel that Ganesan is a gift of GOD for us Tamils (Sorry ! I am emotional). Ingivanai Yaam peRave enna thavam seithu vittom!

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 23 6:32:56 2007.

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  Can any one post the entire dialogues of Sivaji - Nagesh sequence (the questions and answers ) ?
  
  >> Dig <<
  
  SPB is the BEST - far ahead of any singer in the Indian film history. Atha challenge paNNuRathaivida periya comedy ethuvum illai
  
  >> end dig <<<
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 8:52:49 2007.

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  Roshan,
  
  Here is the question ans sequence, as much as I can recollect...
  
  
  சிவன்:
  உனக்கு பரிசு வேண்டுமா இல்லையா...
  
  தருமி : வேணுமே....
  
  உங்களுக்கு வேண்டாமா...
  
  தருமி : சத்தியமா....
  
  
  
  தருமி :நிச்சயமா...
  
  
  
  தருமி : உண்மையாகவா...
  
  ...
  
  நாடகத்தையே நடத்துபவன் நடிக்க முடியுமாப்பா..
  
  தருமி : என்னது என்னது...
  
  அந்த பரிசின் மீது பற்றில்லை நீ வாங்கிக்கொள் என்றேன்...
  
  தருமி : ஹைய்யோ இப்பொ புரியுது... புதுசா பாட்டெழுதி பழகற..அதை நேரா எடுத்துட்டு போன எப்டி உதைபாங்களோ என்ன பண்ணுவாங்களோன்னு பயபடறீங்க...
  
  ஹஹ... என் திறமை மீது நம்பிக்கை இல்லையேல் என்னை பரிட்சித்துப் பாரேன்...உனக்குத் திறமை இருந்தால்..
  
  தருமி : என்கிட்ட...என்கிட்ட மோதப்பாக்கறயா... தொபார்.. பார்வைக்கு சுமாரா இருப்பேன்... ஆனால் என் புலமையைப் பத்தி உனக்கு தெரியாது...
  
  ஹ்ம்ம்... கேள்விகளை நீ கேட்கிறாயா அல்லது நான் கேட்கட்டுமா
  
  தருமி : வேண்டாம்... வேண்டாம். எனக்கு எனக்கு கேட்க மட்டும் தான் தெரியும்.
  
  கேளும்.
  
  தருமி : சற்று பொறும்.
  
  கேளும்
  
  தருமி : பிரிக்க முடியாதது என்னவோ
  
  தமிழும் சுவையும்
  
  தருமி : பிரிய கூடாதது
  
  எதுகையும் மோனையும்
  
  தருமி : சேர்ந்தே இருப்பது
  
  வறுமையும் புலமையும்
  
  தருமி : சேராதிருப்பது
  
  அறிவும் பணமும்
  
  தருமி : சொல்லக்கூடாதது
  
  பெண்ணிடம் ரகசியம்.
  
  தருமி : சொல்லக்க்கூடியது
  
  உண்மையின் தத்துவம்
  
  தருமி : பார்க்கக்கூடாதது
  
  பசியும் பஞ்சமும்
  
  தருமி : பார்த்து ரசிப்பது
  
  கலையும் அழகும்
  
  தருமி : கலையிற் சிறந்தது
  
  இயல் இசை நாடகம்
  
  தருமி : நாடகம் என்பது
  
  நடிப்பும் பாட்டும்
  
  தருமி : பாட்டுக்கு
  
  நாரதன்
  
  தருமி : வீணைக்கு
  
  வாணி
  
  தருமி : அழகுக்கு
  
  முருகன்
  
  
  தருமி : சொல்லுக்கு
  
  அகத்தியன்
  
  தருமி : வில்லுக்கு
  
  விஜயன்
  
  தருமி : ஆசைக்கு
  
  நீ
  
  தருமி : அறிவுக்கு
  
  நான்
  
  ஐய்யா ஆளை விடு எனக்கு தெரிஞ்சது அவ்வளவு தான்!
  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 23 8:56:49 2007.

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  Great SP
  
  Thanks so much
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 9:03:57 2007.

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  PLEASURE IS MINE
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed May 23 9:09:25 2007.

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  SP Akka ! Brilliant memory ! Eppadi full dialogues kodukureenga fm memory.
  
  Neenga great dhaankaa . Engeyou irukka vendiyavanga. Che che.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 23 9:44:37 2007.

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  SP
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 23 9:56:43 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Can any one post the entire dialogues of Sivaji - Nagesh sequence (the questions and answers ) ? >> Dig << SPB is the BEST - far ahead of any singer in the Indian film history. Atha challenge paNNuRathaivida periya comedy ethuvum illai >> end dig <<<

  
  
  Indeed, Dr.SPB rulzzz all the way.........
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Wed May 23 9:58:14 2007.

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  Almost all the songs of this movie got mentioned except " Podhigai Malai Uchiyile Purapadaum Thendral " a superb melody and happens to be a favourite of mine (in spite of NT not being a part of this song) and especially the saranam
  
  Vaan Parakkum Kodiyinile;
  
  Meen Parakkum Maduraiyile
  
  a lovely number by PBS and SJ (Credit to Kannadasan & KVM also)
  
  Regards
  
  PS: On the sidelines Thenisai Thendral Deva had taken this song, mixed it with Mullai Malar mele from UP and "created" Thennai Mara Thoppukulle Kuyile Kuyile for a Sathyaraj - Banupriya movie.
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed May 23 9:59:22 2007.

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  Raghu, thulli thulli is the worst example of good singing. SPB practically struggles to sing in low pitch.
  Listen to the song again, if you want.
  
  Anyway, I dont wish to continue arguing. I maintain my stand and the rest is up to you.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 10:00:26 2007.

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  af... requested continuation of this.
  
  Morning I posted the same, guess, there was font problem...
  
  so here is the continuation of MY MOST FAVOURITE SCENE IN TAMIZH CINEMA....
  
  

  joe wrote:

  சிவன்: இப்ப புலவன் கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டிற்கு இச்சபையில் குற்றம் கூறியவன் எவன்? மன்னன்: அவன் இவனென்ற ஏக வசனம் வேண்டாம். அவையடக்கத்துடன் கேட்டால் அதற்கு தக்க பதில் கூறுவார்கள். சிவன்: அப்படியானால் மன்னரைவிட மற்றவருக்கு இங்கு அதிகாரமோ? மன்னன்: இது அரச சபை அன்று. தமிழ் திருச்சபை. இங்கே சகலருக்கும் சம உரிமை உண்டு. சிவன்: அதனால்தான் தருமி கொண்டு வந்த பாட்டில் தவறு கண்டீர்களோ? நக்கீரன்: ஆம். பழுதுள்ள பாட்டாய் இருந்ததால் பரிசுக்கு அருகதை இல்லையென்று தடுத்துக் கூறியவன் நான்தான்! சிவன்: யார் இந்தக் கிழவன்? செண்: முத்தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைமைப் புலவர் நக்கீரர். சிவன்: ஆ கீரன்! தமிழ்ச் சங்கத்தின் தலைவன் என்ற ஆணவத்திலேதான் பாட்டிலே குறை கண்டீரோ? என்ன குற்றம் கண்டீர்? நக்கீரன்: முதற்கண் பாட்டை இயற்றியது யார்? அதற்கு பதில் தேவை. சிவன்: யாம்! யாம்! இயற்றினோம்! நக்கீரன்: எழுதிய நீர் வராமல் அதை இன்னொருவரிடம் கொடுத்து அனுப்பியதற்கு காரணம்? சிவன்: அது நடந்து முடிந்த கதை. தொடங்கிய பிரச்சினைக்கு வாரும்! நக்கீரன்: புலவருக்கு முதலில் பொய்யுரை தேவை இல்லை. அதைத்தாம் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். சிவன்: புரிந்தது, புரியாதது, தெரிந்தது, தெரியாதது, பிறந்தது, பிறவாதது அனைத்தும் அறிவோம். அதுபற்றி உமது அறிவுரை தேவை இல்லை. எல்லாம் எமக்கு தெரியும். நக்கீரன்: எல்லாம் தெரிந்துவிட்டால் எழுதும் பாட்டிலே பிழை இருக்காதென்று அர்த்தமா? அது பற்றி யாம் குற்றம் கூறக் கூடாதா? சிவன்: கீரன்... என் பாட்டில் குற்றம் கூறுகிறாராம்! கூறும். கூறிப்பாரும். மன்னன்: புலவர்களே! சாந்தமாக உரையாடுங்கள். புலமைக்கு சர்ச்சை தேவைதான். ஆனால் அது சண்டையாக மாறிவிடக் கூடாது. சிவன்: சண்டையும், சச்சரவும் புலவர்களின் பரம்பரைச் சொத்து. அதை மாற்ற யாராலும் இயலாது. சற்று பொறுத்திருந்து பாரும்! நக்கீரரே எமது பாட்டில் எங்கு குற்றம் கண்டீர்? சொற்சுவையிலா? அல்லது பொருட்சுவையிலா? நக்கீரன்: சொல்லில் குற்றமில்லை. இருந்தாலும் அது மன்னிக்கப்படலாம். பொருளில்தான் குற்றமிருக்கிறது.

  
  
  நக்கீரன்: எங்கே நீர் கொண்டு வந்த தமிழ்ப் பாட்டைக் கூறும்.
  
  சிவன்: "கொங்குதேர் வாழ்க்கை அஞ்சிறைத் தும்பி
  காமம் செப்பாது கண்டது மொழிமோ
  பயிலியது கழிய நட்பின்
  மயிலியல் சறியியற்று அறிவை கூந்தலின்
  அறியவும் உளவோ நீ அறியும் பூவே"
  
  - இது தான் எமது செய்யுள்
  
  நக்கீரன்: இதன் உட்கருத்து
  
  சிவன்: தலைவன், தலைவியின் காதலில் மெய் மறந்து,
  "ஏ தும்பி இனத்தைச் சேர்ந்த உயர்ந்த ஜாதி வண்டே
  நீ கண்ட மலர்களில் இம்மங்கையின் கூந்தலைப் போல்
  மணமுள்ள மலரும் உண்டோ" என்று கேட்பதைப் போல் எழுதியிருக்கிறேன்.
  
  நக்கீரன்: இதன் மூலம் நீங்கள் தெரிவிக்கும் கருத்து
  
  சிவன்: ஹ ஹ புரியவில்லை!! இயற்கையிலேயே பெண்ணின்
  கூந்தலுக்கு மணம் உண்டு என்பது தான் எமது தீர்ப்பு
  
  நக்கீரன்: ஒருக்காலும் இருக்க முடியாது, வாசனாதி திரவியங்களை பூசிக்கொள்வதினாலும், தொடர்ந்து மலர்களை
  சூடிக்கொள்வதினாலும் தான் ஒரு பெண்ணின் கூந்தலுக்கு மணம் இருக்க முடியுமே தவிர, இயற்கையிலேயே வெறுங்கூந்தலுக்கு ஒரு காலும் மணம் இருக்க முடியாது.
  
  சிவன்: தேவலோகப் பெண்களுக்கு?
  
  நக்கீரன்: ஈரேழு பதினான்கு லோகப் பெண்களுக்கும் அதே கதி தான்.
  
  சிவன்: உமது நாக்கில் இருந்து உலவுகிறாளே கலைமகள்
  அவளுக்கு அப்படித்தானோ!
  
  நக்கீரன்: கலைமகள் என்ன, நான் அன்றாடம் வழிபடும் ஈசனுக்கு இடப்பக்கம் அமர்ந்திருக்கிறாளே அன்னை மலைமகள், உமையவள் அவளுக்கும் அதே விதிப்படித்தான்.
  
  சிவன்: உண்மையாக
  
  நக்கீரன்: உண்மையாக
  
  சிவன்: நிச்சயமாக
  
  நக்கீரன்: நிச்சயமாக
  
  
  சிவன்: உமது தமிழ் மீது ஆணையாக
  
  நக்கீரன்: எமது தமிழ்ப் புலமை மீது ஆணையாக
  
  சிவன்: நக்கீரா... நன்றாக என்னைப் பார்! நான் எழுதிய தமிழ்ப் பாட்டு குற்றமா
  
  நக்கீரன்: (மனதில்... ஆண்டவா.! இறைவா!) புலவரே... நீரே முக்கண் முதல்வனும் ஆகுக. உமது நெற்றியில் ஒரு கண் திறந்து காட்டிய போதும், உமது நெற்றியெல்லாம் கண்ணாக்கிச்
  சுட்ட போதிலும் குற்றம் குற்றமே.
  
  நெற்றிக் கண் திறப்பினும் குற்றம் குற்றமே
  
  சிவன்: சங்கதனை கீர் கீர் என்று அறுக்கும் நக்கீரனோ எம்
  கவியை ஆராய்ந்து சொல்லத் தக்கவன் (sigh ... shivaji's voice
  worth a million here)
  
  நக்கீரன்: சங்கறுப்பதெங்கள் குலம்...சங்கரனார்க்கேது குலம்!!
  சங்கை அறிந்துண்டு வாழ்வோம்...ஹரனே உம்மைப் போல்
  இரந்துண்டு வாழ்வதில்லை.
  
  சிவன்: நக்கீரா...
  
  (ஆண்டவா...இறைவா... ஆதியும் நீயே... அந்தமும் நீயே.. ஊழியும் நேயே....)
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 23 10:00:30 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  SP Akka ! Brilliant memory ! Eppadi full dialogues kodukureenga fm memory. Neenga great dhaankaa . Engeyou irukka vendiyavanga. Che che.

  
  
  summa google-a irunthu copy-paneetangappa,
  
  just joking SP acca
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 10:03:28 2007.

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  raghu,
  
  I need not google for the MOST FAVOURITE MOVIE OF MINE.
  
  I generally am forgetful, this movie, however as I said is etched in my soul.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 23 10:10:32 2007.

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  SP,
  Again wow!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 23 10:17:02 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Raghu, thulli thulli is the worst example of good singing. SPB practically struggles to sing in low pitch. Listen to the song again, if you want.

  
  
  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Anyway, I dont wish to continue arguing. I maintain my stand and the rest is up to you.

  
  
  Reppeatu.. with 'I' replaced by 'we' and 'my' replaced by 'our'
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 23 10:20:05 2007.

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  SP
  
  Coooool - ungaL sEvai intha thread-ku thEvai
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Wed May 23 10:23:20 2007.

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  Thanks sp akksss and joe
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 23 10:29:19 2007.

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  SP,
  //உமது நெற்றியெல்லாம் கண்ணாக்கிச்
  சுட்ட போதிலும் குற்றம் குற்றமே. //
  
  இது
  
  உமது உடம்பெல்லாம் கண்ணாக்கிச்
  சுட்ட போதிலும் குற்றம் குற்றமே.
  
  என்றிருக்க வேண்டும்.
  
  உங்கள் அருமையான முயற்சிக்கு மீண்டுமொருமுறை நன்றி!
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 11:14:38 2007.

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  JOE,
  
  I had that doubt, I mean I felt.. something did not gel there
  
  thanks for the correction
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 23 11:58:46 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  Raghu, thulli thulli is the worst example of good singing. SPB practically struggles to sing in low pitch. Listen to the song again, if you want. Anyway, I dont wish to continue arguing. I maintain my stand and the rest is up to you.

  
  
  
  
  Joke of the century.....
  
  

• From: Raghu on Wed May 23 12:01:44 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  raghu, I need not google for the MOST FAVOURITE MOVIE OF MINE. I generally am forgetful, this movie, however as I said is etched in my soul.

  
  
  maam,
  
  I was just joking
  
  vartaa
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 23 12:41:29 2007.

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  Raghu,
  
  That was just an information, I wanted to share. I knew u were joking
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu May 24 1:35:16 2007.

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  SP
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu May 24 2:03:04 2007.

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  KM.... super work!
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu May 24 2:04:23 2007.

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  SPA,
  
  appadaa, varusaiyaa moonu mod vandhu jay pOttachu
  
  

• From: ksen on Thu May 24 3:37:00 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  can some one tell me a song which TMS sang in a very deep voice?

  
  
  How about 'Yaar andha nilavu'
  The bass in TMS' voice just reverberates in you
  
  Sorry for the dign
  
  

• From: Raghu on Thu May 24 6:34:05 2007.

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  ksen wrote:

  Raghu wrote: can some one tell me a song which TMS sang in a very deep voice? How about 'Yaar andha nilavu' The bass in TMS' voice just reverberates in you Sorry for the dign

  
  
  summa lolu panaathenga sir, ithellam deep voice-na ishwaraa
  
  
  
  nonetheless TMS is a VERY VERY GODD SINGER, no doubt
  
  

• From: Raghu on Thu May 24 6:37:14 2007.

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  Selva machi,
  
  few suggestions for your next movie discussions
  
  1) Karnan
  2) Salanghai Oli
  3) 6-il irunthu 60 vathu varai
  4) Sirpikuzh muthu
  5) Engo keata Kural
  6) Sri ragavendra
  7) Mouna Raagam
  
  ...
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu May 24 6:58:33 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  ksen wrote: Raghu wrote: can some one tell me a song which TMS sang in a very deep voice? How about 'Yaar andha nilavu' The bass in TMS' voice just reverberates in you Sorry for the dign summa lolu panaathenga sir, ithellam deep voice-na ishwaraa nonetheless TMS is a VERY VERY GODD SINGER, no doubt

  
  
  Raghu Saar,
  
  Unga alavukku enakku Isai nyanam kidayadhu. But I can quote another song MADIMEEDHU THALAIVAITHU ..VIDIYUMVARAI THOONGUVOM Another TMS beauty ! Kettu paarunga Sir.
  
  But it may not match with your high expectations. Sorry sir.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu May 24 7:34:49 2007.

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  Raghu machi,
  Please send your nominations through PM. I would prefer a single movie to be nominated at a time. FYI, Salangai Oli had been discussed already in this thread. I will soon list the movie that were discussed in the first post
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu May 24 7:44:27 2007.

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  >> dig <<
  
  Nakeeran,
  
  Madi meethu thalai vaithu is not a great or extra ordinary song in terms of singing or pitching. But I agree with ksen on 'yaar antha nilavu'. It was something different from TMS and a very good attempt at singing on a lower note ( infact in one of his interviews TMS said, he initially found difficult to take up the challenge and had to do a lot of home work for this song). The song as a whole is a perfect composition. But still 'thulli thulli' stands out on any day
  
  I have posted my comments on this particular song in 'songs that had an emotional impact' thread this morning.
  
  
  << end dig >>
  
  

• From: Raghu on Thu May 24 9:45:56 2007.

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  NakeeRa ; Nandraha ennai paar, naan paninina post kutrama (joking)
  
  Dr.SPB is UNBEATABLE in every single DEPAERTMENT!!!
  
  every one else looks ORDINARY compared to his GREATNESS
  
  

• From: leosimha on Thu May 24 9:51:55 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  NakeeRa ; Nandraha ennai paar, naan paninina post kutrama (joking) Dr.SPB is UNBEATABLE in every single DEPAERTMENT!!! every one else looks ORDINARY compared to his GREATNESS

  
  
  Raghu,
  
  Yes, Dr. SPB is great. Even I am a fan of Dr. SPB's voice....but TMS is also great in his own way. SO lets stop dig here before the hubber joe becomes mod joe....
  
  

• From: joe on Thu May 24 9:58:17 2007.

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  leosimha wrote:

  SO lets stop dig here before the hubber joe becomes mod joe....

  
  
  Arumaiya sonneenga
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Thu May 24 10:06:29 2007.

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  This is the only movie which i never got bored even after watching more than 20 times !!!!
  IMO credit goes Sivaji, APN, BMK, KVM in the same order
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Thu May 24 10:09:55 2007.

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  ThiruVilayadal - Mythology Stories can be told interestingly by APN only ..
  
  that too his comb with NT is always a treat
  
  thiruvilayadal is one such movie which you can watch at all ages at all time
  
  wonderful pick
  
  

• From: Raghu on Thu May 24 10:16:39 2007.

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  lavanya22rit wrote:

  This is the only movie which i never got bored even after watching more than 20 times !!!! IMO credit goes Sivaji, APN, BMK, KVM in the same order

  
  
  Indeed,
  
  

• From: leosimha on Thu May 24 10:40:43 2007.

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  //dig//
  
  Please Please Please, can you let me know about KVM?
  
  //dig//
  
  I completely agree that Thiruvilaiyaadal is an EVERGREEN movie, can be seen umpteen number of times...Sivaji has excelled the limits in this movie...
  
  

• From: Raghu on Thu May 24 11:05:32 2007.

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  leosimha wrote:

  //dig// Please Please Please, can you let me know about KVM? //dig// I completely agree that Thiruvilaiyaadal is an EVERGREEN movie, can be seen umpteen number of times...Sivaji has excelled the limits in this movie...

  
  
  Leoshima,
  
  enpa, K.V.Mahadevan patri theriyaathaa?? ,
  Shankaraparanam paadalghal theriyumma??
  
  

• From: joe on Thu May 24 22:20:15 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  lavanya22rit wrote: This is the only movie which i never got bored even after watching more than 20 times !!!! IMO credit goes Sivaji, APN, BMK, KVM in the same order Indeed,

  
  
  You missed bold for APN ,which is quite surprise
  
  APN was the captain of the ship ,he not only directed ,but wrote the dialogues which became eternal.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Thu May 24 23:02:05 2007.

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  YES,
  
  APN's role cannot be dismissed easily.
  
  

• From: leosimha on Fri May 25 2:39:21 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  leosimha wrote: //dig// Please Please Please, can you let me know about KVM? //dig// I completely agree that Thiruvilaiyaadal is an EVERGREEN movie, can be seen umpteen number of times...Sivaji has excelled the limits in this movie... Leoshima, enpa, K.V.Mahadevan patri theriyaathaa?? , Shankaraparanam paadalghal theriyumma??

  
  
  yes....I know K.V.Mahadevan.............yesterday I was scratching my head a lot till I lost some hair and then found out that K.V.M is none other than K.V.Mahadevan. (Hmm..what to do? I am not in the habit of remembering acronyms, I can remember only Full Names)
  
  Shankarabharanam Songs are simply superb.
  
  

• From: leosimha on Fri May 25 2:43:32 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Raghu wrote: lavanya22rit wrote: This is the only movie which i never got bored even after watching more than 20 times !!!! IMO credit goes Sivaji, APN, BMK, KVM in the same order Indeed, You missed bold for APN ,which is quite surprise APN was the captain of the ship ,he not only directed ,but wrote the dialogues which became eternal.

  
  
  yes, ofcourse. A.P.Nagarajan can't be ignored.
  
  

• From: leosimha on Fri May 25 2:46:45 2007.

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  Joe,
  
  Has the movie "Karnan" been discussed here? Another Classic which is worth discussing. Another evergreen movie which I love watching umpteen number of times. Then who can forget the movie "RajaRaja Chozhan". Classics of Sivaji.
  
  Please don't be shocked. The movie which I missed a lot on seeing is "Veera Pandiya Kattabomman". These films are worth discussing.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri May 25 3:42:45 2007.

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  Leo,
  Don't worry .Our friend Selva will note down your recommendations and will put those in proper order.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri May 25 3:49:55 2007.

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  leosimha wrote:

  yes....I know K.V.Mahadevan.............yesterday I was scratching my head a lot till I lost some hair and then found out that K.V.M is none other than K.V.Mahadevan. (Hmm..what to do? I am not in the habit of remembering acronyms, I can remember only Full Names) Shankarabharanam Songs are simply superb.

  
  
  Join the club.
  
  KVM scored for most of APN's picture, including the excellent Saraswathy Sabatham, Thiruvarutchelvar, Kandhan Karunai, to name a few. Strangely APN picked Kunnakudi Vaithiyanathan for MGR's Navarathinam. I think the biggest contributor to the movie's flop is KV's inept music.
  
  Before you hardcore-Carnatic fans throw rotten tomatoes at me, I think KV is a fine musician who is a king in his own arena. But not cinema...(though he was good in Deivam).
  
  While Thiruvilayadal is a classic, I somehow tend to revisit Saraswathy Sabatham more often. I don't know why. Maybe because of my mom's name. Maybe I am pro-education.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri May 25 3:57:54 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  While Thiruvilayadal is a classic, I somehow tend to revisit Saraswathy Sabatham more often. I don't know why.

  
  
  Interestingly ,saraswathi sabatham is one of Super Star Rajini's most favourite movies..He mentioned in many occassions and I remember he used one scene in baba also.
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Fri May 25 4:14:44 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Raghu wrote: lavanya22rit wrote: This is the only movie which i never got bored even after watching more than 20 times !!!! IMO credit goes Sivaji, APN, BMK, KVM in the same order Indeed, You missed bold for APN ,which is quite surprise APN was the captain of the ship ,he not only directed ,but wrote the dialogues which became eternal.

  
  
  Infact i can even rearrange its as APN, Sivaji, BMK, KVM.....kudos to APN for providing us this evergreen classic
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Fri May 25 4:15:59 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  groucho070 wrote: While Thiruvilayadal is a classic, I somehow tend to revisit Saraswathy Sabatham more often. I don't know why. Interestingly ,saraswathi sabatham is one of Super Star Rajini's most favourite movies..He mentioned in many occassions and I remember he used one scene in baba also.

  
  
  Sivaji's expressions as narathar was just awesome.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri May 25 4:17:37 2007.

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  Thiruvilayadal is episodic. It's a delight to see many facets of Sivan/NT...and the stories are great platform for many wonderful talents.
  
  But in SS, there is a central issue. What is greater. The whole movie is a debate about values. Educations wins them all and it's so valid till today. There is also a kelvi/bathil session, but not as powerful as Thiruvilayadal.
  
  So, Thiruvilayadal is a great pleasure for all senses...but SS is more intellectual. But unfortunately, I find GG was miscast in SS. Should have gotten someone else, like Muthuraman. As good as GG is, playing a Veeran is not his forte.
  
  SS came after Thiruvilayadal, right Joe?
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Fri May 25 4:22:06 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  Thiruvilayadal is episodic. It's a delight to see many facets of Sivan/NT...and the stories are great platform for many wonderful talents. But in SS, there is a central issue. What is greater. The whole movie is a debate about values. Educations wins them all and it's so valid till today. There is also a kelvi/bathil session, but not as powerful as Thiruvilayadal. So, Thiruvilayadal is a great pleasure for all senses...but SS is more intellectual. But unfortunately, I find GG was miscast in SS. Should have gotten someone else, like Muthuraman. As good as GG is, playing a Veeran is not his forte. SS came after Thiruvilayadal, right Joe?

  
  
  
  But while watching the movie i felt they desperately tried to recreate the magic of thiruvilayadal....but just missed it by a whisker
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri May 25 6:13:20 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  There is also a kelvi/bathil session, but not as powerful as Thiruvilayadal. SS came after Thiruvilayadal, right Joe?

  
  
  
  GRoucho,
  
  While in Thiruvilayadal everybody (NT,Nagesh & APN) scored, in SS NT would have swept away the entire group consisting of GG,KRV and ERS (ERSahadevan) in that question answer session. In fact the chemistry of the scene would itself change when the following dialogues are uttered.
  
  KRV: Andha Pulavarai Azhaithu Vaarungal
  
  GG: Yaar andha Pulavan?
  
  KRV: Varuvar Parungal
  
  With this the camers would shift to the entrance and NT dressed in all splendour would just majestically walk in. Man! You are again tempting me.
  
  Your second querry, yes. While Thiruvilayadal got released in July 1965, SS got released in August 1966.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri May 25 6:21:27 2007.

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  Thank you, Murali-Sar,
  
  What tempting? I was expecting you to recreate that magical moment.
  
  
  Arrrr.......okay, okay, I will try to get that movie (my mom, Mrs. Saraswathy, hijacked that VCD and never returned) and will post a review on NT's thread.
  
  The reason for the Q/A session in SS is different from Thiruvilayadal. In SS it's more about show of power by the other two. Okay, I'lll talk about it later. I am digressing.
  
  

• From: Raghu on Fri May 25 6:23:37 2007.

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  some how i LOVED, Karnan, Thiruvilaiyadal, and thiruvarut chelvar more than SS
  
  selva Machi
  
  lets discuss KARNAN after this
  plsssssssssssssssssssssssssss
  plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
  plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri May 25 10:36:36 2007.

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  Oh I know, why THIRUVILAIYAADAL is better than SS.
  
  ThiruviLaiyaadal FOCUSES on shivaji and his multiple persona in acting.
  
  SS, has so many others with equal choice.
  
  Since we get to see MORE OF SHIVAJI in THIRUVILAIYAADAL, impact is more too.
  
  Even otherwise,
  
  thiruvarutchelvar had shivaji as prime cast for most roles, YET... DID NOT HAVE THE MAGIC of thiruvilaiyaadal.
  
  
  
  why?
  
  

• From: joe on Fri May 25 10:40:55 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  thiruvarutchelvar had shivaji as prime cast for most roles, YET... DID NOT HAVE THE MAGIC of thiruvilaiyaadal. why?

  
  
  The Reason is ...
  
  Thiruvarutchelvar was a serious movie with pure Pakthi ,where as ThiruviLayadal is collection of interesting episodes of Lord siva ,with humour added with that.
  
  IMO ,ThiruviLayadal is not Pakthi padam .. the name ThiruVILAYADL itself shows the difference
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri May 25 10:44:02 2007.

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  SP,
  
  Thiruvilayadal depicted Lord Siva and his vilayadal puranas which people had read/heard of but T.Selvar dealt with the stories of Nayanmars which were not so popular and so the identification was less with TVSelvar?
  
  Just my thinking
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri May 25 10:56:59 2007.

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  hmmm...
  
  I think I agree with MURALI SRINIVAS.
  
  though what joe said could not be dismissed.
  
  may be a lil of this and lil of that
  
  

• From: Raghu on Fri May 25 11:22:03 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  SP, Thiruvilayadal depicted Lord Siva and his vilayadal puranas which people had read/heard of but T.Selvar dealt with the stories of Nayanmars which were not so popular and so the identification was less with TVSelvar? Just my thinking Regards

  
  
  but Murali sir, 63 Gnayanmarhal are the one of the BASIS of Shaivism right? then how can the Majority of Shaivites from INDIA be ignorant of this?
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sat May 26 1:30:05 2007.

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  Dear Raghu,
  
  I think you are residing outside TN/India. Here though majority of them are Shaivaties as you said, it is a fact that most of them are not aware of nayanmars except say the top 4 (Appar, Sundarar, Sambandar and Manickavasagar) whom we call as Saiva smaya kuravargal.
  
  Since TVSelvar dealt with other nayanmars though it covered Sundarar, Appar and Sambandar(though in small measure), the people had difficulty in identifying with their plight.
  
  This was a 100 day movie. Though what I am going to say is nothing connected with the identification factor now, at that time (during release of the movie) bakthi films by NT- APN combo started releasing at regular intervals which could also have a played a part in the way the people recd the movies. If you check
  
  Thiruvilayadal -1965 July
  
  Saraswathy Sabatham - 1966 August
  
  Kandhan Karunai - 1967 January
  
  Thiruvarutselvar - 1967 July
  
  Thirumal Perumai - 1968 February.
  
  The level of success gradually started decreasing and Thirumal Perumai was he one out of the above 5 which could not complete a 100 day run. In fact it was not a success at all.
  
  This was the basis of my posting.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Sat May 26 4:04:36 2007.

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  Watch the mind blowing PAATUM NAANE BHAVAMUM NAANE here :
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyJhodhw1q4&eurl=
  
  Amazing display of variety in the final part of the song when 5 guys compete with each other & that mutual appreciation for each others' play !
  
  Superb camera work and fantastic acting !
  
  

• From: tacinema on Sat May 26 10:02:15 2007.

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  Good pick this week - Thiruvilaiyaadal; one of the greatest mythological movies that NT, along with APN, carved out. In my opinion, this movie was a showcase of team work with seemingly no ego attahed from all artists involved. You can see this factor throughout the movie - see how Nagesh dominates in first vilaiyaadal, T S Balaiah's equal role in fourth vilaiyaadal and KB Sundarambal breezes easily during beginning and ending of the movie. The movie has got some finest acting from everyone - a reason why it became a blockbuster and an all-time favourite.
  
  If we were to take a poll on favourite vilaiyaadal, then I am sure the first episode (with Nagesh) would be an easy winner. But I may differ here; in my opinion, the fourth vilaiyaadal (paana pathirar part) is more versatile and more challenging than Nagesh-NT vilaiyaadal.
  
  Another thing I mesmerized is APN's creativity - the way Nagesh character was shaped and made it one of the best comedies in history, in contrast to the original purana where Dharumi is depicted as a poor poet who is a very devoted bhakta of Lord Shiva.
  
  There have been a lot of discussion in this thread on different characters: NT, Savithri, Nagesh, and so on. But I am not sure why no one discussed about K B Sundarambal's role - a simple and very effective Avvaiyar role. Especially when she tries to teach Lord Muruga during beginning of the movie and at the end, when she comes back to see the reunion of Muruga with parents. If you like tamil literature, you would simple love her tamil diction. Her tamil diction is richer, more sophisticated - especially at the end, when Savithri asks KBS to dedicate a poem to Lord Shiva using numerals: OneRu, Rendu, Moondru ena varasai paduthi paadu. A simple treat to movie lovers. Do you know KBS was the first artists who was offered 1 lac Rupees for a role in Avvaiyar movie, made by Gemini Studios? I believe she accepted the offer and donated that money to national freedom movement!!
  
  Somehow, I feel APN as Nakeerar did not gel well with the character. The dialogue part of the argument was very sharp but in my view, APN did not deliver the dialogues very effectively. Any takers? Did APN act in any other movie?
  
  

• From: tacinema on Sat May 26 10:27:02 2007.

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  Murali: I may not agree with your statement that people were well aware of Lord Shiva's thiruvilayadal and that contributed to the success of the movie. A common tamilian wont have a chance to know about the purana, except as a high school student, you read it in the poem. I always feel that the thiruvilayadal purana became more popular and reached the mass after the movie was released. In addition, a common tamilian does not have a chance to learn about 63 Nayanmars, unless you are willing to learn about tamil Saiva history.
  
  In my view, the reason why Thiruvilaiyadal was more successful than any other NT's purana movie was that Thiruvilayadal has got all necessary ingradients to become a major success:such as fine acting, good narration and above all, best comedy. These are the very factors that other purana movies lagged - SS does not have a good comedy part.
  
  Commercial apsect of Thiruvilaiyadal has more surprising elements: During its re-release the movie was a major success. It run for 3 weeks in late 80s at Madurai Chintamani and the fans welcomed in a big way with banners, floral arrangements, and fire crackers. During that time, this theatre released three NT movies with major success: Thangasurangam, Thiruvilayadal and Thillana mohanambal. In addition, the nadigarthilagam.com website claims that a woman fan of NT in chennai saw thiruvilayadal for all 175 days (must be 175 times at least) it ran at Shanthi theater.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Mon May 28 2:05:44 2007.

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  tac,
  
  Good points you have written about Thiruvilayadal especially about KBS and her songs.
  
  Regarding my posting, I was in fact replying to SP about the identification factor. She was wondering why TVSelvar did not became a rage and I had told her that nayanmar stories are not as popular as Lord Shiva's vilayadal puranams which you had also stated. I do agree the way Thiruvilayadal was made contributed to it's roaring success.
  
  That's what I had pointed out in my reply to Raghu that when APN repeated the treatment and that too at regular intervals, the sequels could not repeat the Super success story of Thiruvilayadal.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue May 29 22:50:30 2007.

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  next coming up -> the tale of victory of Amanjikarai over America .....TM , please make the announcement.....i cant wait
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Tue May 29 23:39:41 2007.

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  oh wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
  
  waiting
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 30 1:34:35 2007.

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  On behalf of Selvakumar ,Let me announce the movie of the week.
  
  Minnale
  
  The Star Cast:
  Madhavan, Reema, Abbas, Nagesh, Vivek, Kitty, Fathima Babu and Others
  
  The Crew:
  Lyrics : Valee / Thamarai
  Camera : Rajasekhar
  Editor : Suresh Urs
  Music : Harris Jeyaraj
  Director : Gautham
  Executive Producer : Dr. J. Murali Manohar
  Associate Producer : J. Jayakumar
  Produced by : Cee (I) TV Entertainment Limited
  
  http://www.galatta.com/OfficialSites/minnale/html/index.htm
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed May 30 1:36:21 2007.

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• From: Rocky_ on Wed May 30 1:47:48 2007.

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  I didn't like this movie much the first time I saw it. Also Reema Sen was Ugly IMO. The Make up was horrible.
  
  But then I saw it a 2nd time on Sun TV. I liked it a lot better.
  
  I LOVE Vivek's Intro Scene!
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed May 30 1:55:12 2007.

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  The first time i saw it
  Oh mama mama song was cut in the CD and i was eagerly waiting for it......... i loved the movie except for vaseegara song
  
  Madhavan's role and acting is awesome
  
  abbas the movie was too good............ vivek
  
  

• From: Rocky_ on Wed May 30 2:05:41 2007.

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  Abbas That's exactly what he was. Just a
  
  Have u seen how Saif played that role in the Hindi Version?
  
  IMO Saif did a better job, and fit the role better.
  
  But then again, I'm a Saif Ali Khan fan so I liked it better.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed May 30 2:06:18 2007.

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  Thanks Joe........ ...
  
  Maddy maddy oh ho Maddy defined minnale ...also, my nickname was derived from this movie...
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed May 30 2:07:31 2007.

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  Rocky_ wrote:

  Abbas That's exactly what he was. Just a Have u seen how Saif played that role in the Hindi Version? IMO Saif did a better job, and fit the role better.

  
  
  saif was AWESOME
  
  and maddy is fat in hindi cha he lost the chocolate boy look in RHTDM............but in minnalea he was amazingggggggg........
  
  

• From: Rocky_ on Wed May 30 2:10:19 2007.

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  Vivek was also another hero for the film!
  
  The Credit for the Film's Sucess should also go to him.
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Wed May 30 4:07:15 2007.

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  Maddy and Vivek did a wonderful job....but the major credit shud go to the debutant Harris Jayaraj.....without those songs the movie wudnt have turned out to be watchable.....Maddy's acting was superb as always thou
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 4:33:15 2007.

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  Thanks a lot Joe !
  
  Advance Birthday wishes to R.Madhavan
  
  ---------
  Minnale
  ---------
  
  "Minnal velichathula oru ponna paarthaen
  Nenjai apadiyae poo pola, koithu sendraal
  Uthattil aval peyarudanum, udalil aval uyirudanum alainthen
  Megamaa allathu Vaanamaa endru thavithaal antha venmathi
  Iruthiyil en vaanathai adainthaal andha azhagiya thee"
  
  Minnalae - Balaji review
  
  When a movie is saddled with a familiar story, no surprises and predictableproceedings, it is upto the director to fashion the movie in a way that keepsthe viewer in his seat. And in that respect, debutante director Gautham has beensuccessful. He packages a love triangle in an entertaining package with a charminglead pair, a little bit of mixed identities and a believable romance and providesMadhavan a chance to redeem himself in front of his fans, who may have abandoned him afterEnnavale.
  
  Rajesh(Madhavan) and Samuel(Abbas), poles apart in personalities, are sworn enemiesin college and part the same way. Rajesh falls in love with Reena(Reema Sen) butlearns later that she is all set wed Rajiv, who lives in the US and is supposed to arrive in a week to see her. Rajesh shows up at her doorstep as Rajiv(whom she hasnever seen) and proceeds to steal her heart in the five days he spends with her. Thegig is up for Rajesh when Rajiv, none other than his old enemy Sam, arrives fromthe US. A shellshocked and cheated Reena now hates him while Rajiv gets ready towed her.
  
  At the heart of the movie is the eternally famous love triangle of two men beingin love with the same girl. So the onus lies on the director to fashion enough interesting situations to help us forget this basic premise of the movie. He doesthis through some interesting characterisations and a youthful romance. The directordoesn't take the easy way out by making Abbas the bad guy. He is as good as(in somecases, even better than) Madhavan and this makes the love triangle slightly interesting. The meetings between Madhavan and Reema after she knows the truth are marked by some sharp dialogs and Reema's character gains some respect during thesescenes. But the stale climax follows every cliche that usually closes out such a love triangle faithfully and is a disappointment.
  
  Ofcourse, with the majority of the movie dealing with Madhavan taking Ajith's place,suspension of disbelief is an essential part of enjoying these portions. Questionslike why Reema's parents are never seen until absolutely necessary are not likely notto be answered even by the director and the sheer number of coincidences needed for the ploy to work(they care of just one - disconnecting the telephone to Reema's house)constantly reminds you that none of this can be taken seriously. On the other hand,the romance is handled well with the right amount of charm and minimum fuss and sentiments. The scenes where the couple go out to eat and Madhavan's attempt togive her a surprise on her birthday are cute and funny.
  
  Vivek raises some laughs as Madhavan's friend. He has his best lines during theconversation with the lorry driver and then the police after his accident. Thedirector has attempted to portray a grandfather-grandson relationship that is moreof a friendship but goes overboard as the movie goes on. Nagesh's urging of Madhavanto find a girl is funny initially but his reactions to Madhavan and his friends gangingup on Abbas and his other advice after Reema rejects Madhavan do not ring true and worse, decrease the respect his character earns until then.
  
  Madhavan discards(not completely though) his loverboy role in his first two films to play a rowdy character.Surprisingly, the role suits him well and he is impressive during the initial altercationswith Abbas. (Is his stylish way of lighting the matchstick at various places an attemptto earn him some male fans too?!). Reema Sen looks really cute and pretty and acts welltoo. Abbas has an extended cameo and is adequate. Music is by newcomer Harris Jayaraj,A.R.Rehman's assistant, and the influence is obvious, especially in the backgroundmusic. Vaseegara... is the pick of the songs though the picturisation does notdo full justice to it. Verenna... and Venmathiye... are the other goodsongs.
  
  

• From: swathy on Wed May 30 4:33:22 2007.

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  Other than vivek's comedy and songs, I didn't like anything in this movie.
  
  Reema's reaction on seeing abbas
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 4:36:17 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  Thanks Joe........ ... Maddy maddy oh ho Maddy defined minnale ...also, my nickname was derived from this movie...

  
  
  
  There is only one person who can use that title and that is R.Madhavan only !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 4:41:52 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  Other than vivek's comedy and songs, I didn't like anything in this movie. Reema's reaction on seeing abbas

  
  
  Reema sen ah neraya college pasanga climax la ---- panni irundha appreciate panni irupeengaloe ?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 4:43:59 2007.

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  lavanya22rit wrote:

  Maddy and Vivek did a wonderful job....but the major credit shud go to the debutant Harris Jayaraj.....without those songs the movie wudnt have turned out to be watchable.....Maddy's acting was superb as always thou

  
  
  Well said. Sema debut !
  All the songs were good except Oh mama.
  
  I love Ivan Yaaro , Aeh Theeyae , Nenjai poo pol koithaval, Ore nyabagan !
  I didn't like Vaseegara that much at first
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Wed May 30 4:46:32 2007.

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  This is the movie that made me a fan of Madhavan and Vivek.. Reema Sen was pretty in the movie, but unfortunately (fortunate?) she fizzled after that.... But Abbas stole the show (for my money).. probably his best movie to date.....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 4:52:55 2007.

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  Rocky_ wrote:

  Reema Sen was Ugly IMO. The Make up was horrible.

  
  
  :anger: IMO, that was the only movie in which she was pretty.
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed May 30 5:51:21 2007.

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  subbuni , naan rajeshlEndhu bangalore pesuren
  
  

• From: swathy on Wed May 30 5:52:59 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  swathy wrote: Other than vivek's comedy and songs, I didn't like anything in this movie. Reema's reaction on seeing abbas Reema sen ah neraya college pasanga climax la ---- panni irundha appreciate panni irupeengaloe ?

  
  
  climaxla enna?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 5:53:26 2007.

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  subbuni , naan rajeshlEndhu bangalore pesuren

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 5:54:11 2007.

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  though this movie was a neatly executed version of Kaadhal Mannan, I love this movie equally. It was too good and I must say that
  
  I loved this movie mroe than Alaipaayuthey !
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 30 6:11:39 2007.

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  Swathy sonnA maathiri - only songs and Vivek were enjoyable. Enakku Reemavai pidikaathu
  
  There is this scene where Madhavan, Vivek and friends will be seated in a circle and Vivek will be giving ideas how to approach Reema. Ideas solluRathOda - he will kalachify every body in that group. He would do it in a very casual way and the whole scene (quite a lengthy one) would be spine breaking When ever I see it on TV I wonder how difficult it would have been for Madhavan to maintain seriousness through out that scene.
  
  700 spare partsla oDatha vandiyAdA intha elumicha pazhathula oDa pOguthu
  
  appadiyE Kamal sir maathiri get up-a maathittE iru - ponnu kedekkAttiyum - oru Oscar-aavathu kedekkum
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:22:12 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  700 spare partsla oDatha vandiyAdA intha elumicha pazhathula oDa pOguthu appadiyE Kamal sir maathiri get up-a maathittE iru - ponnu kedekkAttiyum - oru Oscar-aavathu kedekkum

  
  
  
  That one was too good.
  another one:
  
  Madhavan will be showing the cup (that was used by Reema) to ALL ! Everyone will be congratulating him and vivek will say
  
  "Dei.. Ithukku nee ava saapitta elaya edhuthuttu vanthu kazhuvi FRAME pottu vachi irukkalaam.
  
  elaarum kaadhalikku SELA vaikuraan.. nee ELAI vachathaa irukatuum ! "
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 30 6:35:41 2007.

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• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:40:22 2007.

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  I donno really !
  Why Madhavan stopped giving movies like Minnalae after this !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:43:07 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  climaxla enna?

  
  
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  MADDY wrote:

  next coming up -> the tale of victory of Amanjikarai over America .....TM , please make the announcement.....i cant wait

  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:49:49 2007.

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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnale
  
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357905/usercomments
  
  Author: sidhu from Hamburg
  

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  The hero who is allergic to girls during the first few scenes.On a rainy night he sees a girl dancing in the rain and he sees her face when lightning strikes(minnal in tamil and hence the name). He falls in love with her but he finds out that she is engaged to someone else and he pretends as her fiancée and makes her fall in love with him. She finds out eventually and now has to choose between the two. My favorite tamil movie and all the songs are great. The song vaseegara is excellent with the vocals. I would recommend this movie for people in their teens.

  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:53:09 2007.

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  http://www.chennaionline.com/moviereviews/tammov101.asp
  
  Director: Gautham
  Cast: Madhavan, Abbas, Rima Sen, Vivek, Nagesh, Kitty, Janaki.
  
  Rajesh and Samuel (Madhavan - Abbas) are college-mates and bitter rivals. They have their gangs, each indulging in one-upmanship. Samuel goes abroad for higher studies while Rajesh takes up a job. Rajesh, on a trip to Bangalore, comes across Reena and is smitten by her charm. To his pleasant surprise he sees her again in Chennai and tries to plan his moves to get closer to her. But there is a hitch. Reena is engaged to Rajiv from the U.S. But, all being fair in love and war, Rajesh is persuaded by his friend Chockalingam (Vivek) and grandpa Subbuni (Nagesh) to impersonate Rajiv and enter Reena's life. Rajesh gets to spend five blissful days with Reena, who reciprocates his love till Rajiv appears on the scene and Reena discovers Rajesh's duplicity. Rajesh too gets a rude shock when he discovers that Rajiv is none other than his old college rival Samuel. How the matter is resolved forms the rest of the story.
  
  It is a debutant's work and Gautham (ad film-maker, and an apprentice to directors Rajiv Menon and G.B. Vijay) shows promise. In a stylish way he has tried to give a new look to the eternal love-triangle story. He has succeeded partly, for the film is fairly engaging. The first half is fun and frolic with Vivek largely responsible for keeping the proceedings alive. The second half could have been trimmed a little.
  
  Madhavan has improved his dialogue delivery and it is a role that suits him. Abbas reveals maturity, particularly in handling the later scenes. Rima is confident and has an impish charm. Harris Jairaj (Jingles composer) has scored some top-of-the-chart songs. Unfortunately their impact is marred by some unimaginative picturisation. The impact one felt on hearing them on the audio (like the melodious - 'Vaseegara…') is sadly missing in the visuals.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 6:58:34 2007.

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  http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2197
  
  Film : Minnale
  singer: Harish ragavendra , timmy
  lyrics : Vaali
  music : harris
  song : ye theeye
  
  Eh theeye azhagiye theeye ennai vaalthughiraiye
  Oru haikoo kavithai vizhighalil nee paada paada
  Oru hypertension thalaikeruthe
  naanum vaada
  PaavaighaL unnakoru allergy adda
  AvaLai paarthadhum unnakulle energyadaa
  Ennai yetho seithu vitaaL
  Common babe don’t do this babe
  Nenjai poo pol koidhu vitaaL
  Don’t you ever do this
  Don’t you ever do this babe
  
  Varave illai urrakam atharkum illai erakkam
  Imaighal ondraghe epothum seraamal
  Idaiyai nindraiye ithu nyayamma
  Bp erri pochu illa ratham
  Nenjil kaadhal polle oru yutham
  Addi artha rathiri sunnu mathiri veppam thakudhadi kannil
  Ennil minnal thakave theeyum kaatrum ondru sernthatho unnil…
  Nee ennai suttethum analil ittadhum
  inthamathilum poo poo pothum…
  
  Eh hei…azhagiye theeye ennai vaalthughiraiye
  Oru haikoo kavithai vizhighalil nee paada paada
  Oru hypertension thalaikeruthenaanum vaada
  Never do this to me…don’t ever do this to me ….babe
  Un peyar solli solli ennaiyai naan maranthen
  Un minnal paarvaiyil en uyir naan tholaithen
  
  Udhathil unthan peyarthan…udalil unthan uyirthan…
  nilathil nindralum neeyengu sendralum
  Naan unnai thodargindra nizhal allava…
  Kaathal pithu yeri manam thatta
  Avalai sekku polle nee sutha
  Unnai konjam konjamai thunda thundamai kondru pottuthu enna
  Kodi minnal kaatiye thegham yaavum
  Minnal polleve minnum
  Naan ennai en idam illai endruthan penne un idam vanthen theda
  hey theeyeazhagiye theeye….ennai vaatuughiraiye..
  Oru haikoo kavithai vizhighalil neethan paada paada
  Oru hypertension thalaikeruthe…naanum vaada
  Paavaighal unnakoru allergy adda…
  Avalai paarthathum unnakulle energy adda…
  Ennai yetho seithu vitaaL .
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 30 7:02:48 2007.

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  Selva,
  
  Venmathi VenmathiyE nillu is also nice. Lyrics nallA irukkum. Athuvum VaaliyOdathA?
  
  I know 'VaseegarA' was from Thamarai but other songs I dont know
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 7:06:22 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Selva, Venmathi VenmathiyE nillu is also nice. Lyrics nallA irukkum. Athuvum VaaliyOdathA? I know 'VaseegarA' was from Thamarai but other songs I dont know

  
  
  Not sure Roshan. I know about Azhagiya Theeyae only.
  
  Anyway,
  here is one of the reviews available @ mouthshut on the album
  
  http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Minnale_Album-48033-1.html
  
  

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  Let me start by saying I’m really surprised that there nobody on MS has yet reviewed the songs of Minnale. And I take great pride in being the first to write about it...(coz all the songs are awesome!!) The director of this movie is Gautham, for whom this was a debut movie. The music director is Harris Jeyaraj, who too made his debut. He used to be(I believe he still is) AR Rahman’s assistant. People said that HJ had copied some of ARR’s tunes, but whether or not that’s true, a man has to be credited for giving excellent music, and Harris Jeyaraj deserves every bit of praise for that. The five songs in the album are: Hey Azhagiye Theeye -- Harish Raghavendra, Timmy A song that the hero sings about the heroine, calling her a beautiful fire that sautes him and about how she makes him feel. Nice tappy number. Oh Mama Mama Mama -- Shanker Mahadevan, Tippu A song that talks about enjoying life and being playful. ’Oh Sunday Monday Tuesday Ezhunaalum tension freeya’ meaning ’All 7 days free from tension’... Shanker Mahadevan sings it very well, showing he can sing songs of any mood or calibre. Ore Nyabagam -- Devan A very small song sung by Devan. Very soothing number that sets the pace for the next song (and the super hit of the album) Vaseegara Ore Nyabagam means ’only one memory’ but it can also be taken to mean ’so many memories’. I guess the hero means his only memories are those of the heroine. Vaseegara -- Bombay Jayashree The MEGA Hit song! Bombay Jayashree renders it beautifully, at the pitch she’s very comfortable in. The flute interluds are very good too. A perfect song, with no errors to pinpoint. A lot of Hindi movie buffs too prefer this tamil rendition to the hindi version. I don’t know what the song means in Hindi but it’s pretty nice in Tamil. Since I expect a lot of you would want to hum along, I’m going to give the lyrics and translation of the song. This was the first song Thamarai wrote lyrics for, I believe. I also think it was the first time a lady wrote lyrics in a Tamil movie. This is the only song she’s written; the rest are written by Valee. Venmathiye Nillu -- Roopkumar Rathod My personal favourite. Roopkumar sings it beautifully, and you won’t even realise he doesn’t know tamil, when you hear the song. Pronunciation is good and he sings it with a lot of passion. It’s a sad song that the hero sings, when he is determined to forget the heroine who hates him now after finding him out to be an imposter. It’s awesome and the lyrics are excellent. I could hear this song and Vaseegara all day and not get bored. Verenna Verenna Vaendum -- Unni Krishnan, Harini It’s a pretty good song, with very good lyrics, but it’s not as sensational as Venmathiye or Vaseegara and doesn’t carry the tone set by those two lovely songs. Lyrics and translation of Vaseegara: Just remember that no song sounds great translated, so don’t judge the lyrics by how they sound in English! vaseegara en nenjinikka un pon madiyil thoonginaal pothum Oh charismatic one, for my heart to be happy it’s enough if I sleep in your golden lap. adhae kaNam en kaNNuranga mun jenmangaLin yaekkangaL theerum That very second I will fall asleep and all my previous births’ desires will be fulfilled. naan naesippathum swasippathum un dhayavaal thaanae My loving and breathing are all because of your favour yaengugiraen yaengugiraen un ninaivaal naanae naan... I’m yearning...I’m yearning...in your memory... adai mazhai varum athil nanaivomae Heavy rain will come...and we’ll get wet in it kuLir kaaichchalodu snegam We’ll catch a cold and flu oru porvaikkuL iru thookkam Two slumbers under one blanket kuLu kuLu poigaL solli ennai velvaay By flattering me with lies you will win me adhu therindhum kooda anbae But even though I know it, my darling manam adhaiyaedhaan edhirpaarkkum That is still what my heart will expect engaeyum pogaamal dhinam veettilaeye nee vaendum Without going anywhere, I want you at home everyday sila samayam viLaiyaattaay un aadaikkuLae naan vaendum Sometimes playfully I want to be inside your clothes (vaseegaraa...) dhinamum nee kuLiththathum ennai thaedi Everyday after you take a bath you’ll search for me en selai nuniyaal undhan thalai thudaippaayae adhu kavidhai and with my saree’s pallu you’ll wipe your hair...that’s poetry(meaning romantic) thirudan pole pathungiyae thideer endru pinnaalirundhu ennai nee aNaippaayae adhu kavidhai Like a thief you will hide secretly and suddenly come behind me and hug me...that’s poetry... yaaraenum maNi kaettaal adhai solla kooda theriyaadhe If someone asks me the time I won’t even know how to answer kaathalenum mudiveliyil gadigaara neram kidaiyaadhe In the garden called love there are no clocks or time... (vaseegaraa...) I also translated ’Venmathiye Nillu’ but am not able to add it here, so I’ve put it up in the comments section. I took quite some effort writing the lyrics and translating them, so I really hope you like them!! Do drop in your comments; they’ll be much appreciated. Thankyou.

  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed May 30 7:43:17 2007.

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  Vaseegara -- Bombay Jayashree The MEGA Hit song! Bombay Jayashree renders it beautifully, at the pitch she’s very comfortable in. The flute interluds are very good too. A perfect song, with no errors to pinpoint. A lot of Hindi movie buffs too prefer this tamil rendition to the hindi version. I don’t know what the song means in Hindi but it’s pretty nice in Tamil. Since I expect a lot of you would want to hum along, I’m going to give the lyrics and translation of the song. This was the first song Thamarai wrote lyrics for, I believe. I also think it was the first time a lady wrote lyrics in a Tamil movie. This is the only song she’s written; the rest are written by Valee

  
  
  Thanks Selva - Sariyaathaan irukkumnu nenekirEn. And how come I forgot to mention the short and cute number - iru vizhi unathu.... naan adikadi munu munukkum paadal
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed May 30 9:05:23 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Thanks Selva - Sariyaathaan irukkumnu nenekirEn. And how come I forgot to mention the short and cute number - iru vizhi unathu.... naan adikadi munu munukkum paadal [/tscii]

  
  
  Even I love "Iru vizhi unathu". Good one with ample scope for Abbas.(Actually the Hindi version RHTDM had a diff song which was later on used by HJ for KK - Ondra renda aasaigal).
  
  In the movie, dialogues were good. I donno why GM went to "reduce the length of the dialogues" in his later movies.
  
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed May 30 12:19:25 2007.

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  I can watch this movie.... for
  
  MADHAVAN
  
  his INNOCENT EXPRESSIONS
  his GRACE
  his STYLE
  his MACHOISM
  his SMILE
  his MANNERISM
  his LOOKS..
  
  phew
  
  I became madhavan's fan AFTER WATCHING this movie (than alaipaayuthE)
  
  Reema sen- A PERFECT PAIR for madhavan. CHEMISTRY IS AMAZING.
  
  VIVEK- wow
  
  "Vaazha ilai echa thattu tumbler elaam frame pottu maatunga"
  
  THE BEST SCENE is................
  
  with a HEP move... he would remove his jacket and get down on his knee (typical romantic move)
  
  "en per rajesh, naan america illai.. local aminjikarai..."
  
  WOULD STEAL heart, with a every screen prescence.
  
  Song..
  
  "venmathi venmathiyE nillu..."
  
  would linger in any music lover's mind.
  
  All songs are tellably good.
  
  Had it been with any other heroine, I DONT THINK I OWULD HAVE enjoyed this movie TO THIS extent.
  
  REEMA SEN - MADHAVAN
  
  whoa
  
  not to leave out ABBAS... good enough.
  
  "Avalukku unna thaan pudichirukaam... oru 5 days la nee enna win pannitta illai"
  
  "I am a better man than u ...... anyday"
  
  TRUE to his word, HE WOULD BE A BETTER MAN .
  
  

• From: kb on Wed May 30 12:21:49 2007.

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  i love this movie.. everything was perfect..
  
  love,music,comedy
  
  

• From: Hey Ram on Wed May 30 12:31:16 2007.

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  Take out vivek and the music, it was a bad film..Can watch it once..but twice?? no. Scenes were lifted from many films from the golden era.. Can't resist thiking this way.. Nagesh advising him to go to her(Reema's) house as abbas.. reminded me of the same person sending Kamal to Meena's house in Avvai Sanmuhi.. not trying to take away any credit from the film..but it's just me.. I got this feeling.. Awesome lyrics by the lyricists(Vaali or Thamarai?? both vaazhga).. The songs were pushed a step higher due to maddy's presense.. He gave commendable facial expressions for venmathiye venmathiye.. I once saw him on a stage, where he performed the very song..very impressive.. He got stamina.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed May 30 13:42:31 2007.

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  I liked only..
  
  1.Vivek comedy
  2.Songs
  3.Madhavan's cool acting
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed May 30 14:13:24 2007.

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  Minnale was a perfect, feel good, candyfloss entertainer.
  One of those movies that you could watch several times without getting bored. Songs were all top class! GM’s debut movie and not a bad one at that for someone’s first film. Screenplay was hilarious and had the right mix of humor and drama. The comedy track of Vivek & Co. along with Maddy was hilarious. Though the climax was "cinematic" but still was taken with conviction! A movie that gave Madhavan the nick name "Maddy" and more importantly guaranteed him the "Heartthrob" status
  
  My favourite scene of Minnale: Maddy goes out with Reema Sen in a "Auto Rickshaw". Reema Sen will ask Maddy how far is Chicago from Seattle since here relative lives in Chicago. Maddy will tell her that “car-la pona oru mani nerathulle pogalaam… Fligh-la pona... flight take-off agurathuku munaadiye land-agithum…”
  Then Maddy will ask Reema Sen “Unga ooru Autorickshaw-le thaagama iruntha kudika beer can’s ellam illaya”?
  
  A perfect entertainer for all seasons that you could watch with your friends/family!
  
  

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  Hey Ram wrote:

  Scenes were lifted from many films from the golden era.. Can't resist thiking this way.. Nagesh advising him to go to her(Reema's) house as abbas.. reminded me of the same person sending Kamal to Meena's house in Avvai Sanmuhi..

  
  Avvai Shanmughi-ye original kidayaadhu...
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed May 30 14:28:15 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  I became madhavan's fan AFTER WATCHING this movie (than alaipaayuthE)

  
  SP!
  AP was more serious but entertainment-wise Minnale was better than AP. You could watch Minnale several times w/o getting bored!
  
  

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  "en per rajesh, naan america illai.. local aminjikarai..."

  
  Typical Madras college pasanga dialogue! The confrontations between Maddy & Abbas were cute!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed May 30 15:12:58 2007.

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  My most favorite GM movie
  
  The movie I enjoyed the most in theaters (apart from thalaivar movies, of course) for inexplicable reasons
  
  Maddy was terrific, as SP mentioned reema sen-maddy chemisty was awesome. Superb songs, one of the best ever from harris, superb comedy, racy screenplay and a dull climax is how I would summarize the movie. Terrific entertainer
  
  

• From: Wibha on Wed May 30 19:36:01 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  I can watch this movie.... for MADHAVAN his INNOCENT EXPRESSIONS his GRACE his STYLE his MACHOISM his SMILE his MANNERISM his LOOKS.. .

  
  
  he's too cute........... i've watched this movie 30 times
  
  they used to put this on Raj tv regularly and i used to watch it
  
  REEMA sen
  
  HJ- all songs were awesome except vaseegara........... venmathi venmathi
  
  ABBAS and MADDY clashes
  
  selva anna
  
  

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  Hey Ram wrote:

  Take out vivek and the music, it was a bad film..

  
  Vivek was very good. "Vandhuttangaya map poda"..
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Wed May 30 19:52:33 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  My most favorite GM movie The movie I enjoyed the most in theaters (apart from thalaivar movies, of course) for inexplicable reasons Maddy was terrific, as SP mentioned reema sen-maddy chemisty was awesome. Superb songs, one of the best ever from harris, superb comedy, racy screenplay and a dull climax is how I would summarize the movie. Terrific entertainer

  
  
  Same here but barring the dragging church sequence, I thought that climax in the airport was quite exhilirating! Maddy and Reema was so cute and Vivek was in his BEST form! Essentially a very simple story but the presentation was refreshing! The perfect example of a memorable, romantic comedy
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed May 30 20:34:27 2007.

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  Wibha wrote:

  Shakthiprabha wrote: I can watch this movie.... for MADHAVAN his INNOCENT EXPRESSIONS his GRACE his STYLE his MACHOISM his SMILE his MANNERISM his LOOKS.. . he's too cute........... i've watched this movie 30 times they used to put this on Raj tv regularly and i used to watch it REEMA sen HJ- all songs were awesome except vaseegara........... venmathi venmathi ABBAS and MADDY clashes selva anna

  
  
  
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Wed May 30 22:38:49 2007.

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  Awesome movie! Very happy and entertaining movie... Had a very nice story, beautiful screenplay, awesome songs, excellent comedy, and above all, wonderful performances from Maddy, Reema Sen, and Vivek! Gowtham and Harris had a kick-ass debut with this movie! Personally for me, the last movie that I saw with my friends before leaving India, very close to my heart, cos it always kindles all kinds of memories in me!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jun 4 8:50:31 2007.

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  MOUNA RAAGAM
  
  
  A movie review by Balaji Balasubramaniam
  Cast: Mohan, Revathi, Karthik, V.K.Ramaswamy
  Music: Ilaiyaraja
  Direction: Manirathnam
  
  
  
  Nowadays we see new directors enter the film world with huge first efforts only to stumble on their subsequent offerings. Not so with Manirathnam. Neither Pagal Nilavu nor Idhayakoyil gave us a hint as to what was coming next from him. While both those were good films, they were hardly what one would call classics. It was Mouna Raagam that made us sit up and take notice of him as a director. It is a beautiful film with memorable characters, good performances, subtle sentiments, great photography and an amazing soundtrack. Almost every frame of the movie oozes with class and the movie features several ideas that have since become trademark Manirathnam touches but were a breath of fresh air back when the movie was released in 1986.
  
  Divya(Revathi) is a playful girl who is unwillingly pushed into marriage with Chandrakumar(Mohan), a personal manager in Delhi. Her dissatisfaction with the marriage is painfully obvious as she hurts him with every word and action and Chandrakumar's accomodating character has no effect on her. A divorce is what she asks for as her first gift after the wedding! When pressed for a reason for her behavious, she reveals to him her brief romance with Manohar(Karthik) that ended in tragedy. Seeing no change in her, Chandrakumar offers her the divorce papers but the court stipulates that a couple must have lived together for atleast a year before the divorce can be given. So they decide to stay together as husband and wife until they can finalise the divorce.
  
  If there is one segment in Mouna Raagam that never fails to charm, it is Revathi's flashback that introduces Karthik. While almost every romantic hero in Manirathnam's films since then has had shades of Karthik's Manohar, the character here captivates us even more since it is fresh and original. His "Mr. Chandramouli routine" and his antics in the bus and the library are cute and charming. The role made Karthik probably the first Tamil heartthrob since Kamalhassan and laid the foundation for his long stay in Kodambakkam.
  
  The other two main characters in the movie are no less endearing. Revathi's Divya is the perfect college girl, scared of marriage with someone unknown and unable to forget her past love. Her gradual transformation after the marriage and her aching for acceptance from Mohan are believable. Mohan is the perfect contrast to Karthik as the calm and patient husband who is ready to give Divya the leeway she needs to come to grips with the marriage. His comments about not caring about her past and his handling of her request for divorce are softly done. Its no wonder that every girl who saw Mouna Raagam when it was released came out wishing for a boyfriend like Karthik and a husband like Mohan!
  
  The movie doesn't feature the abrupt dialogs that Manirathnam has since become famous for and instead, has several sharp lines that serve to convey the emotions of the characters clearly. Revathi's scathing comments bring out her undisguised hatred of married life and Mohan uttering the same lines to her later, effectively makes her realise the enormity of the lines and his feelings when she uttered them. In the same way, Karthik's dialogs(like his comment about the others at the library) convey his fun-loving nature. Revathi's father is a nice mixture of sternness and love. His explanation of his situation to Revathi when she says 'no' to the wedding and his later request to Mohan to keep her happy are moving.
  
  Comedy has never been Manirathnam's strongpoint but his brief forays into it here are much better here than the long, vulgar comedy tracks in Agni Natchathiram and Idhayathai Thirudaathey. Revathi teaching the Sardarji the wrong tamil phrases initially seems mean-spirited but V.K.Ramaswamy's bafflement when he hears them raise some laughs. There is also a sense of closure and a moment of poignancy when the Sardarji responds using the same wrong phrase after Revathi thanks him for his help.
  
  Mohan underplays his role well to portray the affectionate husband. Revathi is the star of the show whether she is laughing at Karthik's antics or crying over Mohan's ignoring her. She looks very pretty and her face easily conveys all the emotions the character goes through. Easily one of the best performances of the talented actress' career. Karthik was starting his second innings after a long gap and quite a comeback it turned out to be. He looks handsome and his dialog delivery suits the playful nature of the character well. Ilaiyaraja continued his habit of providing Manirathnam with chartbusting numbers. Chinna Chinna... gets my vote for one of the best combinations of song and picturisation in tamil cinema. The colorful dresses, the simple dance steps and the photography aid the already catchy song. The melodious Nilaave Vaa... is soulfully rendered by SPB as is Panivizhum Iravu.... Meaningful lyrics are the strength of Mandram Vandha.... P.C.Sriram was the other behind-the-scenes artist whose work was noticed in Mouna Raagam. The lights and soft shadows in the indoor scenes are as beautiful as the shots of the Taj Mahal in the evening light.
  
  Mouna Raagam stands as the one of the best melodies in tamil cinema.
  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jun 4 9:04:02 2007.

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  BELATED BIRTHDAY WISHES TO
  ISAI GYANI "ILAYARAJA"
  
  Sir,
  Please do continue, in mesmerizing us with your musical breeze !
  
  
  BELATED BIRTHDAY WISHES TO
  MANI RATHNAM
  
  Sir,
  Please do continue in providing many more movies that can make every TN person feel proud whenever he moves out of TN
  
  
  
  MANY MORE HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY TO
  
  Dr. S.P Bala Subramanian
  
  Sir,
  Please continue to rule the hearts of people like me and several other TN people with your wonderful voice !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jun 4 9:05:17 2007.

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  http://manismagic.iespana.es/mouna.htm
  
  Very Good Article
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 9:33:16 2007.

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  Best part of Mounaragam:
  
  Iaignani
  
  Vaali's lyrics
  
  karthik & Mohan ...... both should be equally credited....
  
  karthik for over acting but still lovable
  
  Mohan for under acting
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 9:38:47 2007.

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  Lovely movie, which is almost akin to reality.
  Realistic storyline and touch.
  
  IMO, karthik did not over act, BUT JUST did a STEAL SHOW.
  
  WOULD write more later ...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 9:38:58 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  MANY MORE HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY TO Dr. S.P Bala Subramanian Sir, Please continue to rule the hearts of people like me and several other TN people with your wonderful voice !

  
  
  
  Thanks Selva for this I was thinking of posting my wishes to SPB in the film section but didnt know where to post it. Thanks once again
  
  Many happy returns to the LEGEND and a GREAT HUMAN BEING - SPB Sir !!! May the Almighty bless you with more and more success, happiness and good health
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 9:39:28 2007.

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  The questions which come to my mind whenever i c the film:
  
  1. A college girl... doesn't speak proper english ... revathy talking to sardharji in delhi
  
  2. The climax.... when revathy goes , saying that she is not interested in divorce.... Mohan goes in search of her in the railway station..... even if she goes, he could simply call his in laws & explain them the situation...... maybe the climax is shot in that way for making the viewers feel for their union
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 9:42:53 2007.

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  raaja rasigan,
  
  there is one more such dumb question from my mind...
  
  Mohan would be hurt and revathy would desperately try to admit him at hosp
  
  who is he? woh kaun hai... how is he related etc would be asked.
  
  SHE WOULD NOT ANSWER ALL THOSE in any sensible english or hindi sentences. ... but PULL OUT HER THAALI AND SAY..
  
  "en purushan!!!!"
  
  
  
  WHAT A PATHETIC TRY to create a SENTI HUS-WIFE TOUCH
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Jun 4 9:44:24 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  The questions which come to my mind whenever i c the film: 1. A college girl... doesn't speak proper english ... revathy talking to sardharji in delhi That is because, the sardarji cant speak english. Remember in another scene in the hospital, revathi speaks proper english 2. The climax.... when revathy goes , saying that she is not interested in divorce.... Mohan goes in search of her in the railway station..... even if she goes, he could simply call his in laws & explain them the situation...... maybe the climax is shot in that way for making the viewers feel for their union Gaaaawd.. After almost a year, mohan comes to know that revathi has actually started loving him. Will he freaking wait for another week to be with her

  
  
  One of the best thamizh movies ever made, my most favorite MR movie. Will write more later!
  
  

• From: MazhaiKuruvi on Mon Jun 4 9:44:51 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  BELATED BIRTHDAY WISHES TO MANI RATHNAM Heartfelt condolences to Manirathnam on his recent loss. May God give you and your family the strength and the healing.

  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 9:44:59 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  2. The climax.... when revathy goes , saying that she is not interested in divorce.... Mohan goes in search of her in the railway station..... even if she goes, he could simply call his in laws & explain them the situation...... maybe the climax is shot in that way for making the viewers feel for their union

  
  
  A very valid question, WHICH STRIKES ME in almost EVERY movie, which has railway or airport climax!
  
  what the hell!! cant u ring up or talk to them once they reach and LET THEM KNOW U STILL CARE OR LOVE THEM and get them back in NEXT TRAIN.........
  
  
  
  tamizh movie (indian movie) directors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 9:50:12 2007.

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  MazhaiKuruvi wrote:

  Heartfelt condolences to Manirathnam on his recent loss. May God give you and your family the strength and the healing.

  
  ?????
  
  

• From: MazhaiKuruvi on Mon Jun 4 9:55:07 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  The questions which come to my mind whenever i c the film: 1. A college girl... doesn't speak proper english ... revathy talking to sardharji in delhi

  
  
  Are you really surprised by this?? This is very common in many colleges across India. It is in a way the failure of our system of education that produces such graduates. Most of them can write very well, but can hardly speak proper English.
  
  

• From: MazhaiKuruvi on Mon Jun 4 9:57:55 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  MazhaiKuruvi wrote: Heartfelt condolences to Manirathnam on his recent loss. May God give you and your family the strength and the healing. ?????

  
  
  He lost his brother in a freak accident a week or 2 ago, I think he slipped and fell down a cliff while visiting somewhere up north with his family.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 10:00:39 2007.

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  MazhaiKuruvi wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: The questions which come to my mind whenever i c the film: 1. A college girl... doesn't speak proper english ... revathy talking to sardharji in delhi Are you really surprised by this?? This is very common in many colleges across India. It is in a way the failure of our system of education that produces such graduates. Most of them can write very well, but can hardly speak proper English.

  
  
  u r point may be true.. but u all trying to justify bcoz the director is Maniratnam...... even though i too like him more than many others...
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Mon Jun 4 10:01:22 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan
  
  do u think all college girls speak proper english in india?
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Mon Jun 4 10:03:20 2007.

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  As rightly pointed out MR came to be recogonised with this MR. Everybody was good. PC's name in titles started to get the applause after this movie. Other than the famous Yamuna riverside -Taj Mahal rear side, the initial scenes like rain and the camera capturing the bucket full of water thrown by Revathi from the terrace over his brother were all superb.
  
  Dialogues were sharp.
  
  VKR: Un Pondatti mudhal mudhale enna ketta? Athai Vangi koduthiya?
  
  Mohan: Vaangi Kodukka Poren
  
  VKR: Ennathu?
  
  Mohan: Divorce.
  
  Effect would be tremendous.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 10:04:22 2007.

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  MazhaiKuruvi wrote:

  He lost his brother in a freak accident a week or 2 ago, I think he slipped and fell down a cliff while visiting somewhere up north with his family.

  
  Oh
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Mon Jun 4 10:04:39 2007.

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  vkr rocked
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 10:06:39 2007.

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  Ilayaraaja's BGM.....
  
  he used 2 different kinds of music... one for karthik... fast beats as per his character &
  
  main theme music...
  
  No need to say about the songs...... beautiful.....
  kaadhugalai thunburuthaadha padalgal......
  endrum alukkadha, azhiyaadha padalgal
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Mon Jun 4 10:09:18 2007.

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  there is a flute piece in panivizhum iravu....
  
  wow...
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 10:16:22 2007.

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  one more powerful dialogue:
  
  First night for Mohan - Revathy:
  
  Revathy is hesitant to go inside.
  
  Her mother says something.
  
  Revathy replies, " idhuva naalu naalaikku munnadi ippadi enna anupi veppiya" (something like this)
  
  ------------------------------------------------------------
  
  another nice one:
  
  When Mohan says that, he too was not interested in the marriage... but he changed his mind when revathy said the same thing to him
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 10:23:12 2007.

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  An eminently watchable film which never bores you.
  
  One of Ilaiyaraaja's very best and the BGM is a cult, a legend
  
  The Karthik-Revathy romance is one of the memorable (there are very few realistic romances in Tamil anyway) ones in Tamil - before the cliches started
  
  V.K Ramasamy rocked as usual
  
  Some of the dialogues were memorable, like the ones between Revathy and her mom in the penn paarkum padalam scene
  
  While its true that many college-goers aren't fluent in English, its difficult to believe Revathy can't put together a simple sentence in English given her educational and social background (Econometrics, no less!).
  A woman who can't speak English for nuts spends time reading in a city library? Well, she might have been reading a Tamil book, or reading != speaking etc, one can counter but that doesn't sound convincing.
  Similar to Velu Naicker not knowing a word of Hindi after living most of his life in Mumbai - that was even more atrocious.
  Forget English, the way she looks at the buildings in Delhi you might mistake her for Kovai Sarala in singappooor...
  
  Another thing i couldn't quite get was the perception of two different characters in Revathy. She has lost her lover recently in front of her eyes and yet you don't even remotely see the sense of loss or pain in her before the flashback. OK, she has been putting on a "front " to really hide her feelings but that looked like a little contrived way to set the audience up for the twist in the flashback.
  A resigned facade, or even a cold exterior would have been more natural rather than a free-spirited singing-and-dancing-in-the-rain look.
  
  Cribs apart, this was a very good entertainer from a mainstream magician Mani Sir.
  
  P.S:
  Nerd,
  I may be wrong about Revathy not speaking a sentence in English but when does she speak English in the hospital? Don't recollect as its been a while since i watched the film.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 10:26:55 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  one more powerful dialogue: First night for Mohan - Revathy: Revathy is hesitant to go inside. Her mother says something. Revathy replies, " idhuva naalu naalaikku munnadi ippadi enna anupi veppiya" (something like this)

  
  
  "epdimma epdi!...
  
  rendu naalaikku munnadi ipdi evan koodavavathu anupiruppiya!"
  
  ONE OF THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY and sensible dialogue in tamizh cinema.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 10:28:49 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  "epdimma epdi!... rendu naalaikku munnadi ipdi evan koodavavathu anupiruppiya!" ONE OF THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY and sensible dialogue in tamizh cinema.

  
  Absolutely
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 10:29:52 2007.

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  some nice romantic dialogues can never slip one's mind.
  
  __
  
  revathy: neeya?
  
  karthik: aamam.
  
  revathy: watchman partha kazhutha pidichu veliya thalliduvaan.
  
  karthik: mudiyavE mudiyathu... muLLangi bathai mathiri sOLaiya 10 rubai kuduthu vanthirukken
  
  revathy: enna venum
  
  karthik: pesanam
  
  revathy: elaarum parka poraanga
  
  Karthik : mataanga... elaaraiyum book padikka sollirukken
  
  __
  
  so interestingly naughty!!
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 10:32:16 2007.

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  karthik: no kolai koLLai onnly thiruttu.
  
  revathy: would give an innocent yet naughty glance
  
  karthik: enna thirudinannu kekkanam
  
  revathy: enna thirudina
  
  karthik: un ithayathai
  
  revathy: kewl look
  
  karthik: vetkam thaangaamal thanks endraal
  
  revathy : thanks ... coffee kku
  
  __
  
  Routine dialogue... very usual one, BUT THE EXPRESSIONS AND the way ITS PASSED ON BETWEEN the duo makes it special to watch
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 10:32:26 2007.

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  "4 mani, 4 o clock..4 mani, 4 o clock.. akka kettukunga, thangachi kettukkunga"
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jun 4 10:34:53 2007.

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  She would be so pissed off, with his dare devil approach... he would casually approach her...
  
  ___
  
  "kadala sappadariya"
  
  enna inimE parkka varaatha nnu sollitu poga thaan vanthen.
  
  unakku bayam!
  
  .... ('what the hell' kinda look from her)
  
  ennai parthu en style en personality parthu bayam!!
  
  illai
  
  appo prove pannu
  
  epdi
  
  en kooda coffee sapdu
  
  __
  
  those days these dialogues were too famous amidst high school and coll girls / guys
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jun 4 10:36:03 2007.

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  One of my two favourite Mani movies, the other being Nayagan. The dialogues were crisp and just right before becoming ridiculously short in later movies.
  
  What can I say about the BGM? Piano ivvalavu nalla use panna inoruthan porandhu varanum. And there is something about trumpets and IR ('Mandram vandha' in this movie).
  
  CR, if I am right, Revathi does speak English in the hospital: "My husband is bleeding in the car. He is dying.."
  
  But I do agree that the flashback came without warning. In a way it is cheating the viewers.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 10:36:10 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  karthik: no kolai koLLai onnly thiruttu. revathy: would give an innocent yet naughty glance karthik: enna thirudinannu kekkanam revathy: enna thirudina karthik: un ithayathai revathy: kewl look karthik: vetkam thaangaamal thanks endraal revathy : thanks ... coffee kku __ Routine dialogue... very usual one, BUT THE EXPRESSIONS AND the way ITS PASSED ON BETWEEN the duo makes it special to watch

  
  
  i can't recall the dialogues exactly...... but the dialogues in this movie played a big part...... still it is fresh to hear
  
  karthik inside the bus: namma vandidhaan nandhi maadhiri munnadi nikkudhe
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 10:44:37 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  CR, if I am right, Revathi does speak English in the hospital: "My husband is bleeding in the car. He is dying.."

  
  Oh, then i stand corrected and Nerd's explanation makes sense and has more credence (Sardarji doesn't know English)
  
  

  kannannn wrote:

  What can I say about the BGM? Piano ivvalavu nalla use panna inoruthan porandhu varanum. And there is something about trumpets and IR ('Mandram vandha' in this movie).

  
  Right from the title, the BGM just freakin flows. What perfect synergy between the director and music director!
  
  Other notable BGMs'
  - The veena/sitar, tabla bit in the penn paarkum padalam
  - The first fight. Starts with a modern beat and then breaks into latino strumming joined by trumpets/horns(?)
  - Of course, the Karthik-Revathy immortal track and the variations of it. Piano piece, then the slow paced violin version with acoustic drums
  - the Chase: Karthik escaping from the Jeep. IR literally brings out the tension with the violin
  - The Revathy-Mohan matchups. Veena and tabla again
  
  Songs:
  Every song is a classic.
  My favorite is a toss up between "Mandram Vandha" and "Chinna chinna". One can do a thesis on Ilaiyaraaja's usage of the bass guitar (like none less than SPB would testify) and "Chinna Chinna" would be a good place to start with.
  Very few people (in the world) have used bass as a counterpoint to the main melody in the way IR does. Its typical in jazz but in IR's songs its something different and at a different level. The pallavi starts with the bass lines played on a high note rather than as a rhythm backing up the main melody
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 4 10:45:25 2007.

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  Poda Dai Madaya
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jun 4 11:20:41 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Right from the title, the BGM just freakin flows. What perfect synergy between the director and music director! Other notable BGMs' - The veena/sitar, tabla bit in the penn paarkum padalam - The first fight. Starts with a modern beat and then breaks into latino strumming joined by trumpets/horns(?) - Of course, the Karthik-Revathy immortal track and the variations of it. Piano piece, then the slow paced violin version with acoustic drums - the Chase: Karthik escaping from the Jeep. IR literally brings out the tension with the violin - The Revathy-Mohan matchups. Veena and tabla again

  
  Thanks for reminding . Must watch the movie again.
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Songs: Every song is a classic. My favorite is a toss up between "Mandram Vandha" and "Chinna chinna". One can do a thesis on Ilaiyaraaja's usage of the bass guitar (like none less than SPB would testify) and "Chinna Chinna" would be a good place to start with. Very few people (in the world) have used bass as a counterpoint to the main melody in the way IR does. Its typical in jazz but in IR's songs its something different and at a different level. The pallavi starts with the bass lines played on a high note rather than as a rhythm backing up the main melody

  
  Yes, I too remember SPB prasing IR's Guitar talents . Chinna Chinna also has great interludes - flute giving way to violin . My least favourite is "Nilave Vaa.."
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Jun 4 11:24:53 2007.

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  If I am not wrong, she does speak some english before showing her thaali to the hospital receptionist
  
  And yeh the ohO mEgam vanthathO and the first scene of the movie dint blend with the story at all. Actually thats the only complaint I have about the movie!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 11:41:26 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: one more powerful dialogue: First night for Mohan - Revathy: Revathy is hesitant to go inside. Her mother says something. Revathy replies, " idhuva naalu naalaikku munnadi ippadi enna anupi veppiya" (something like this) "epdimma epdi!... rendu naalaikku munnadi ipdi evan koodavavathu anupiruppiya!" ONE OF THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY and sensible dialogue in tamizh cinema.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: swathy on Mon Jun 4 11:41:41 2007.

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  When I watched the movie for the first time, I dunno the meaning of divorce.
  
  It was boring for me , the only scene I enjoyed was poda madaya scene.
  
  Beautiful movie strongly supported by IR.
  
  recently it was remade in kannada with shivarajkumar playing karthik's role.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Jun 4 11:43:17 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  When I watched the movie for the first time, I dunno the meaning of divorce. It was boring for me , the only scene I enjoyed was poda madaya scene. Beautiful movie strongly supported by IR. recently it was remade in kannada with shivarajkumar playing karthik's role.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 4 11:44:06 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  recently it was remade in kannada with shivarajkumar playing karthik's role.

  
  
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jun 4 11:47:06 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  When I watched the movie for the first time, I dunno the meaning of divorce. It was boring for me , the only scene I enjoyed was poda madaya scene. Beautiful movie strongly supported by IR. recently it was remade in kannada with shivarajkumar playing karthik's role.

  
  Idhe velaiya pochu. They are on a crusade to massacre good movies. Recently they also remade Devar Magan with Upendra. Of all people, Shivrajkumar
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 4 11:50:43 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Recently they also remade Devar Magan with Upendra.

  
  
  who did NT's role?
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Jun 4 11:52:52 2007.

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  Old Kannada Hero MP Ambarish
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 4 11:56:28 2007.

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  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Old Kannada Hero MP Ambarish

  
  
  
  
  Devar magan -lollu saba episode maathiri irunthirukkum..illa?
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Jun 4 11:57:51 2007.

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  <digr>
  
  athai vida mosam-nu kelvipatten
  
  <end. digr>
  
  
  
  

• From: rocketboy on Mon Jun 4 12:08:20 2007.

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  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Old Kannada Hero MP Ambarish

  
  
  <dig>
  
  Nothing to do with the movie. But this guy is a pakka #$%@# He was the one of those guys who raked up the pent up emotions of Kannadigas against Tamils .
  <sorry for the digression>
  
  

• From: MuratuKaalai on Mon Jun 4 12:09:13 2007.

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  rocketboy wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Old Kannada Hero MP Ambarish <dig> Nothing to do with the movie. But this guy is a pakka 'pyar -dhin- jao-gendh'. He was the one of those guys who raked up the pent up emotions of Kannadigas against Tamils . Mavanae nee vaadi TNukku unakku irukku di <sorry for the digression>

  
  
  paper rocket vidura boy summa kida veena racism n linguism pesadha
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 4 12:13:33 2007.

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  Guys,
  Lets end digression and back to Mouna ragam.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 12:19:42 2007.

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  One of my most favourite MR movies ( other favourites are Nayagan, Iruvar and Kannthil Muthamittaal).
  
  Eventhough Karthik' role had been a highly acclaimed one and the sequences of Karthik were quite bubbly, energetic, fun and entertaining - for me it was Mohan who led the show right till the end. One of the very few - best underplayed roles ever While giving the credit to MR for the splendid characterisation and Mohan for his career best performance - we shouldnt forget - S N Surendhar - the dubbing artist. His voice modulation was the key factor in bring in all that life to that role.
  
  Mohan to Revathy - kozhantha poRakkumpOthu yEn theriyumA azhuthu... yEnnaa athukku ellAmE puthusu.. intha ulagam, suththi ullavanga ...etc etc... SN Surendhar was the man there - and in many other scenes too.
  
  
  
  

  CR wrote:

  ]The Karthik-Revathy romance is one of the memorable (there are very few realistic romances in Tamil anyway) ones in Tamil - before the cliches started

  
  
  It was nice and realistic but Revathy suddenly agreeing for a register marriage - wasnt that realistic to me. Konjam childish and meethi cinemaathanam.
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Some of the dialogues were memorable, like the ones between Revathy and her mom in the penn paarkum padalam scene

  
  
  Yeah in addition most of the dialogues between Mohan and Revathy. Eg: the one I have quoted earlier and when Mohan speaks out after listening to Revathy's flashback.
  
  
  

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  While its true that many college-goers aren't fluent in English, its difficult to believe Revathy can't put together a simple sentence in English given her educational and social background (Econometrics, no less!). A woman who can't speak English for nuts spends time reading in a city library? Well, she might have been reading a Tamil book, or reading != speaking etc, one can counter but that doesn't sound convincing.

  
  
  Wonder why this 'English Speaking' became an issue here. It was not at all noticeable in the film and it was quite natural the way she speaks with Sardharji. How ever much one is fluent - it's not the case when you speak with a person who doesnt know the language at all. MR made it realistic. That's all.
  
  And as Nerd mentioned - at the hospital she first speaks in English but quite naturally the Delhi hospital staff will respond in Hindhi. Only then she pulls out her Thali out of sheer frustration. The scene also indicates that Revathi had accepted Mohan as her husband without knowing herself.
  
  
  

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  Another thing i couldn't quite get was the perception of two different characters in Revathy. She has lost her lover recently in front of her eyes and yet you don't even remotely see the sense of loss or pain in her before the flashback. OK, she has been putting on a "front " to really hide her feelings but that looked like a little contrived way to set the audience up for the twist in the flashback. A resigned facade, or even a cold exterior would have been more natural rather than a free-spirited singing-and-dancing-in-the-rain look.

  
  
  
  I do agree completely ! Athu konjam uruthalaavE irukkum kadaisi vara. But it was 1000 times better compared to what Priyadarshan did with Trisha's character in 'lesA lesA"
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 12:29:33 2007.

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  >> Dig <<
  
  YaaruppA antha Sivrajkumar ? Unga emotions ellaam pArthA - I consider myself lucky not knowing him >> dig <<
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Mon Jun 4 12:39:08 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  >> Dig << YaaruppA antha Sivrajkumar ? Unga emotions ellaam pArthA - I consider myself lucky not knowing him >> dig <<

  
  
  there is a dialogue in mouna ragam.
  
  karthik would say something like revathi is fearing that she would fall for his charm and smartness.
  
  karthik sonna OK......sivaraj kumar
  
  raj kumar payyanthan andha sivaraj kumar.
  
  avaru "amarkalam" padathayum remake pannirukaru.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 12:42:36 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Right from the title, the BGM just freakin flows. What perfect synergy between the director and music director! Other notable BGMs' - The veena/sitar, tabla bit in the penn paarkum padalam - The first fight. Starts with a modern beat and then breaks into latino strumming joined by trumpets/horns(?) - Of course, the Karthik-Revathy immortal track and the variations of it. Piano piece, then the slow paced violin version with acoustic drums - the Chase: Karthik escaping from the Jeep. IR literally brings out the tension with the violin - The Revathy-Mohan matchups. Veena and tabla again

  
  
  Pinnureenga CR It's really amazing to see how you pay so much attention to the BGM score ithukkAgavE marupadiyum oru thadava padatha pAkanumpOla irukku
  
  

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  Songs: Every song is a classic. My favorite is a toss up between "Mandram Vandha" and "Chinna chinna". One can do a thesis on Ilaiyaraaja's usage of the bass guitar (like none less than SPB would testify) and "Chinna Chinna" would be a good place to start with.

  
  
  Same here Infact the moment Selva changed the title - I first thought of writing about the songs but then again I couldnt infer as to what is my most favourite between these two Panivizhum iravu is also lovely
  
  
  

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  Very few people (in the world) have used bass as a counterpoint to the main melody in the way IR does. Its typical in jazz but in IR's songs its something different and at a different level. The pallavi starts with the bass lines played on a high note rather than as a rhythm backing up the main melody

  
  
  Marupadiyum pinnureenga I am curious.. have you learned music CR?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 12:44:40 2007.

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  shobana_in wrote:

  . avaru "amarkalam" padathayum remake pannirukaru.

  
  
  satham illAtha thanimai kEttEn - paatta enna paNNaanga ?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jun 4 12:51:13 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  shobana_in wrote: . avaru "amarkalam" padathayum remake pannirukaru. satham illAtha thanimai kEttEn - paatta enna paNNaanga ?

  
  
  satham illama manasukulla padittanga
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jun 4 12:57:28 2007.

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  ok ok let us not digress.. back to Mouna Ragam
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Mon Jun 4 18:41:20 2007.

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  wonderful movie
  Kudos to MR to make mohan act with less dialouges(ofcourse no mike)
  
  karthik's cameo was well appreciated and he did full justice to the angry-charming lover boy
  
  Mani-Ir team was awesome
  
  

• From: Wibha on Mon Jun 4 19:45:01 2007.

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  wow i love this movie
  
  karthik makes the movie his attitude and dialogue
  
  mohan err
  
  REVATHI
  
  songs
  
  a good entertainment
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 1:21:32 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  swathy wrote: recently it was remade in kannada with shivarajkumar playing karthik's role.

  
  
  I am one of those unlucky chaps who saw the Kannada remake of this movie when all the tamil channels were blocked here and when I was locked in my PG room !
  Vera onnumae panna mudiyaama paartha padam. Sivarajkumar in Karthik role (It was an inch by inch remake though)
  
  I can only explain what I felt with a single dialogue
  
  Sivarajkumar to Revathy's character : "unakku payam.. ennoda azhagu ( ) smartness personality ya paarthu enga enna kaathalichiduviyonnu payam" (kannada version I donno. I hope many won't expect that here)
  
  
  Plus - remake of Amarkalam (Again inch by inch remake) !
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 1:32:57 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Plus - remake of Amarkalam (Again inch by inch remake) !

  
  
  Selva,
  
  Satham illAthan thanimai - song and song sequence eppadi pannAnga - atha mattum konjam sollidunga
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jun 5 1:33:53 2007.

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  enak erkanavae ingae thookam varalai
  

  Roshan wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Plus - remake of Amarkalam (Again inch by inch remake) ! Selva, Satham illAthan thanimai - song and song sequence eppadi pannAnga - atha mattum konjam sollidunga

  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 1:37:10 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Selva, Satham illAthan thanimai - song and song sequence eppadi pannAnga - atha mattum konjam sollidunga

  
  
  I didn't see that song. I actually tried my level best to skip this movie during a few scenes. So, missed few parts. I saw 50% and less said is better Whatever I saw was 100% DITTO of the original !
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jun 5 1:53:25 2007.

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  Whenever somebody ask me "What do you think Mani's best movie?' ,I always have a dialama between Nayagan and MounaRagam.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 1:59:43 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Whenever somebody ask me "What do you think Mani's best movie?' ,I always have a dialama between Nayagan and MounaRagam.

  
  
  
  I love "Idayathai Thirudaathey" a lot ! ( Telling this, though I love mahendran a lot ) But Nayagan had Mani's trademark written and so do MR
  
  --
  
  I can only say : Mani Rathnam (None can b eat this fellow as far as song picturisation is concerned ) + Isai Gyani Ilayaraja + SPB ( Mandran VAntha)
  
  and not to forget KAARTHIK !
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jun 5 2:02:45 2007.

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  I think, Alaipayudhe - Madhavan character is an extended version of Mouna Ragam - Karthik
  
  There will be similar scenes b/w Alaipayudhe & Mouna Ragam & one that comes in my mind is the Bus scene.
  
  (Karthik & Revathy) (Maddy & shalu) inside the Bus.
  
  Also the way both express their love is similar.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 2:11:14 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  I think, Alaipayudhe - Madhavan character is an extended version of Mouna Ragam - Karthik There will be similar scenes b/w Alaipayudhe & Mouna Ragam & one that comes in my mind is the Bus scene. (Karthik & Revathy) (Maddy & shalu) inside the Bus. Also the way both express their love is similar.

  
  
  And finally agreeing to go ahead with a 'ragasiya register marriage' is way too similar
  
  Many movies following Mouna Ragam had Karthik type characters but Mohan's was something very different and one of the hardly made roles.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 2:11:33 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Thanks Selva for this I was thinking of posting my wishes to SPB in the film section but didnt know where to post it. Thanks once again Many happy returns to the LEGEND and a GREAT HUMAN BEING - SPB Sir !!! May the Almighty bless you with more and more success, happiness and good health

  
  
  Roshan,
  I posted my wishes HERE as well
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 2:34:57 2007.

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  One of the scenes that I posted in KAADHAL IN TAMIL CINEMA sometime back
  
  

  nilavupriyan wrote:

  in sethu when vikram proposes to heroine... "rendu kaiya thatuna than satham varum etc etc...." in mouna ragam..."indha chaina kuduthutu polamnuthan vandhEn....aana ippothan theriyudhu..hey..nee romba azhaga irukka unna enakku romba pidichirukku"

  
  
  Nilavu.. ya.. both the scenes are awesome.. esp the second one..
  
  The narration
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  karthick: excuse me.. maam.. naan divya(not sure abt name) kitta pesanum..
  
  mam: ethukku!!
  
  karthick: divya appavukku accident aahi avara hospitalla sethurukkoem..
  
  mam: divya ..u can go!!
  
  revathi: appakka accident ah!!
  
  karthick: aamaa!!
  
  revathi: entha hospital!!
  
  karthick: mm..(thinks for a while).. inga thaan!! govt hospital
  
  revathi: Poi........
  
  karthick: aenn...???
  
  revathi: enga appa thiruvannamalai poi rendu naal aachu!!!
  
  karthick: oh athu appa unga thaathaava irukumoe
  
  revathi: enga thatha naan perakkum pothae uyiroda illa!! (karthick stares at her in desperation)
  
  revathi: ido paar!! innaikku class ah vittu kooti vantha!! naalaikku veliya polaam apadinnu solluva!! piragu nee romba azhaga irukkannu solluva!!
  apuram.. naan unna love pannuraennu solluva.. idellam enakku pidikaathu.. get out!!
  
  karthick: (suddenly holds her hands)..he will put the gold chain in her hand.. revathi - with surprise, she will look at it.
  
  karthick: idu thaane un chain!! ida koduthittu polaam nu thaan vanthaen
  
  aana inga vantha piragu thaan therinjathu"
  
  revathi: enna...
  
  karthick: with super smile, nee romba azhaga irukannu.. I like u.. I like u very much..
  
  karthick enna charm.. revathi will be spellbound with this one..
  
  excellant scene!!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 2:55:19 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Thanks Selva for this I was thinking of posting my wishes to SPB in the film section but didnt know where to post it. Thanks once again Many happy returns to the LEGEND and a GREAT HUMAN BEING - SPB Sir !!! May the Almighty bless you with more and more success, happiness and good health Roshan, I posted my wishes HERE as well

  
  
  Thanks Selva.. ippathaan pArthEn. But good that you posted your wishes here as well
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Jun 5 5:09:59 2007.

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  Beautiful movie ! though the core theme resembles Mahendran's nenjanthai killadhe
  
  Superb music by Isainyani
  
  Karthik thunders ( the character being brief may be )
  
  Mohan - mikeless !
  
  revathy - Nice acting.
  
  However, one hitch ? Revathy being shown as a cheerful girl despite the loss of her lover Karthik . Quite unrealistic ?
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jun 5 5:39:39 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  One can do a thesis on Ilaiyaraaja's usage of the bass guitar (like none less than SPB would testify) and "Chinna Chinna" would be a good place to start with. Very few people (in the world) have used bass as a counterpoint to the main melody in the way IR does. Its typical in jazz but in IR's songs its something different and at a different level. The pallavi starts with the bass lines played on a high note rather than as a rhythm backing up the main melody

  
  
  A Bass guitar note runs in the background, as S.Janaki sings chinna chinna...CR, is this what u mention?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jun 5 6:17:19 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  A Bass guitar note runs in the background, as S.Janaki sings chinna chinna...CR, is this what u mention?

  
  adhe dhaan. Usually, the bass will just 'follow' the main tune/melody but in many IR songs, it will be a kind of an aggressive "lead" along with the vocals.
  Probably the best example of that is "Thumbi Vaa"
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue Jun 5 6:29:51 2007.

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  Selva Machi,
  
  Thanks for considering my request and start off with Mouna Raagam.
  
  what a film, i can watch this film every day, without any hestiation at all.
  
  here are the key points which made this film successfull in y humble opinion
  
  1) MR
  2) Dr.IR and DR.SPB (nilaavee vaa) Oh boy, i can just die listening to it, that is Dr.SPB 4 u !!!
  3) Karthick- very talented actor, but he choses the romantic hero role always, hence he failed miserabley
  4) Revathy/ one of the FINEST actress from kerala
  5) Mohan - did a very good job, normaly dr.IR/Dr.SPB and the mike saves him in most of the film , bur here he done a very decent job!
  
  

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  Raghu wrote:

  5) Mohan - did a very good job, normaly dr.IR/Dr.SPB and the mike saves him in most of the film , bur here he done a very decent job!

  
  
  This time S.N.Surendhar's soft voice saved him along with IR & SPB & his calmness in acting
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 6:53:34 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: A Bass guitar note runs in the background, as S.Janaki sings chinna chinna...CR, is this what u mention? adhe dhaan. Usually, the bass will just 'follow' the main tune/melody but in many IR songs, it will be a kind of an aggressive "lead" along with the vocals. Probably the best example of that is "Thumbi Vaa"

  
  
  CR, you are yet to answer my question ?
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue Jun 5 6:54:40 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Raghu wrote: 5) Mohan - did a very good job, normaly dr.IR/Dr.SPB and the mike saves him in most of the film , bur here he done a very decent job! This time S.N.Surendhar's soft voice saved him along with IR & SPB & his calmness in acting

  
  
  but S.N.Surendhar always lends his voice for Mohan right?
  
  I know Dr.SPB has done few times.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 6:56:34 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  This time S.N.Surendhar's soft voice saved him along with IR & SPB & his calmness in acting

  
  
  Yes !! half the credit if not more should go to S N Surendhar !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 5 7:01:18 2007.

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  swathy wrote:

  It was boring for me , the only scene I enjoyed was poda madaya scene. Beautiful movie strongly supported by IR.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jun 5 8:00:47 2007.

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  Raghu wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: Raghu wrote: 5) Mohan - did a very good job, normaly dr.IR/Dr.SPB and the mike saves him in most of the film , bur here he done a very decent job! This time S.N.Surendhar's soft voice saved him along with IR & SPB & his calmness in acting but S.N.Surendhar always lends his voice for Mohan right? I know Dr.SPB has done few times.

  
  
  yes u r right, But in this movie, the voice for mohan is apt & u can't say that some one has dubbed for him.....
  
  the voice modulation neatly syncs with the character
  
  

• From: dsath on Tue Jun 5 8:28:40 2007.

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  It is my favorite movie ever.
  Almost everything i wish to say has been told already.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jun 5 9:13:33 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  CR, you are yet to answer my question ?

  
  </Dig>
  Oh, sorry, miss pannitten
  
  kathukka ellam onnum illa.. ellam aaruva kolaru dhaan (meesical family aana enakku onnum theriyadhu )
  
  Appetite undu, music kekkardhu romba pidikkum.. music therinjavanga kitta adha pathi kathukka pidikkum... oru passion
  </Dig>
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 5 12:50:15 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Roshan wrote: CR, you are yet to answer my question ? </Dig> Oh, sorry, miss pannitten kathukka ellam onnum illa.. ellam aaruva kolaru dhaan (meesical family aana enakku onnum theriyadhu )

  
  
  Good to know that
  
  
  

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  Appetite undu, music kekkardhu romba pidikkum.. music therinjavanga kitta adha pathi kathukka pidikkum... oru passion </Dig>

  
  
  Even I like but music therinjavangala inga thEdi pidikkiRathu romba kashtam
  
  

• From: nickraman on Tue Jun 5 18:52:15 2007.

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  One my favorite movies, which I saw for the first time over at videoduniya.com. Mohan as Chandrakuma "CK" was outstanding. I better watch his Idhaya Kovil then. Revathi was also the highlight, especially her scenes with the tamil-teaching with the sardar.
  
  IR of course, the reel star of the film. I still want that damn background score of his! It's hard to find now these days!
  
  I heard this is one of the turning points of MR's career as a director.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 5 23:46:16 2007.

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  I checked that hospital scene one more time. She DOES speak proper english. My husband is bleeding, four guys beat him up, its an emergency...
  
  My most favorite mohan scene in this movie is the scene in which revathi's dad says, maapLa, unga kalyaaNathula enna kuRai vechEnnu theriyala, adhu edhuvA irunthAlum ennai mannichurunga, en ponnu chinna ponnu etc.., Mohan will not say a single word but his expressions would be top-notch and the explanation he gives for his weird behaviour in the next scene is
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jun 6 1:11:41 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  kathukka ellam onnum illa.. ellam aaruva kolaru dhaan

  
  
  roshan, he actually has a very good musical taste \ knowledge in carnatic\Jazz\Western and filmi music. I have lot to learn \ get from him. He already helped me in getting basics in Jazz.....Great Guy
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Jun 6 2:19:59 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: kathukka ellam onnum illa.. ellam aaruva kolaru dhaan roshan, he actually has a very good musical taste \ knowledge in carnatic\Jazz\Western and filmi music. I have lot to learn \ get from him. He already helped me in getting basics in Jazz.....Great Guy

  
  
  I could sense it Aana as usual romba thannadakkamA bathil solli iruthaar
  
  
  And Sakala,
  
  Where were you all these days? Hub pakkam varala konja nAlA.
  
  

• From: buddysathi on Wed Jun 6 2:43:14 2007.

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  Mr.Chandramouli is the best part!
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jun 6 2:45:23 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  And Sakala, Where were you all these days? Hub pakkam varala konja nAlA.

  
  
  Roshan, somehow time kidaikkavillai, as usual work, but i try to visit atleast twice a week. during dasa release, 24 Hrs humming thaan
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Jun 6 2:47:26 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  Roshan wrote: And Sakala, Where were you all these days? Hub pakkam varala konja nAlA. Roshan, somehow time kidaikkavillai, as usual work, but i try to visit atleast twice a week. during dasa release, 24 Hrs humming thaan

  
  
  Hi Sakakals
  
  Your avtar is a bit confusing. Looks like that Prem who invested his all wealth to act alongside Kushboo in sandyar ! Also looks like Shivaji !
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Wed Jun 6 2:48:21 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: Roshan wrote: And Sakala, Where were you all these days? Hub pakkam varala konja nAlA. Roshan, somehow time kidaikkavillai, as usual work, but i try to visit atleast twice a week. during dasa release, 24 Hrs humming thaan Hi Sakakals Your avtar is a bit confusing. Looks like that Prem who invested his all wealth to act alongside Kushboo in sandyar ! Also looks like Shivaji !

  
  
  apdiya...adhuku edhuku padam edukanum..loosu paya
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Jun 6 2:49:31 2007.

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  Thimiru
  
  Appo Kushboo was damn popular I think. Ellarukkum oru aasai dhaane !
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jun 6 2:50:03 2007.

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  its the Bachelor Of Social Service, in my avatar
  [namma aalu athula MASS ngurathu vera vishayam ]
  
  MAster of Social Service
  
  

• From: shobana_in on Wed Jun 6 2:50:18 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Thimiru Appo Kushboo was damn popular I think. Ellarukkum oru aasai dhaane !

  
  
  nayamana pechu
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Wed Jun 6 3:12:20 2007.

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  A film that had brought a new dimension to cameo roles..
  
  

• From: kannannn on Wed Jun 6 5:48:15 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: crajkumar_be wrote: kathukka ellam onnum illa.. ellam aaruva kolaru dhaan roshan, he actually has a very good musical taste \ knowledge in carnatic\Jazz\Western and filmi music. I have lot to learn \ get from him. He already helped me in getting basics in Jazz.....Great Guy I could sense it Aana as usual romba thannadakkamA bathil solli iruthaar

  
  I second that..
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Jun 6 6:46:31 2007.

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  A highly enjoyable film from MR.
  
  The dialogues were the strong point of the film. Not traditionally filmi but natural and (thus) memorable.....even the lighter ones:
  
  VKR: Yen yA, kalyAnathukku 10 naal leave kuduthaa...moonu naalile vandhu nikkire......kalyAnam mudinja aachaa..honeymoon-nu onnu irukkE !
  Mohan: Union negoatiation-nu onnu irukkE
  VKR: unakkellAm evan yA poNNu kuduthAn
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Jun 6 10:07:33 2007.

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  PR
  
  Neengathaan sari dialogues quote pannurathukku
  
  BTW, who penned the dialogues for Mouna Ragam?
  
  
  P.S : Nice signature PR
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jun 6 11:03:46 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  PR Neengathaan sari dialogues quote pannurathukku BTW, who penned the dialogues for Mouna Ragam? P.S : Nice signature PR

  
  
  it should be Maniratnam himself
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Jun 6 13:29:42 2007.

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  it's Maniratnam only
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jun 6 13:32:58 2007.

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  * Very mellow and a nice romantic story!
  
  * Beautiful and subtle screenplay!
  
  * Amazing songs and BGM!
  
  * Superb acting performances by the leads!
  
  * Awesome Direction from the legend!
  
  The movie is called MOUNA RAAGAM...
  
  
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Jun 6 14:46:16 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  PR Neengathaan sari dialogues quote pannurathukku BTW, who penned the dialogues for Mouna Ragam? P.S : Nice signature PR

  
  
  
  Dialogues by MR himself. I always quote Mouna Ragam to anyone who says MR is all about unnaturally minimal dialogue.
  
  Plenty of nice ones in this film. In the second half, Revathi is slowly drawn towards him and Mohan is getting emotionally defensive because her departure is imminent (or atleast he doesn't want to make the first move). She keeps trying to get close by being playful while he remains aloof. They are walking around the house and she turns off the music system that he turned on. He will erupt:
  "Will you stop it ! Kuzhandhai maadhiri nadanthukkarathukkum oru ellai irukku. Un ishtathukku eppidi nadandhukkalaam yaarum kEkka maattaangannu ninaichiyA ? Well, there is a limit and this is it."
  
  After that he will call his travel agent and book her ticket home the next day. He will be fuming even when he is talking to his agent. Revathi would be too stunned to react and too proud to retract. The outburst had little to do with her actions but emotions bouncing off unexpected channels.
  
  Beautifully conceived, written and executed scene.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 6 15:10:14 2007.

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  And beautifully narrated as well
  
  

• From: vidhyavd on Thu Jun 7 14:37:39 2007.

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  shobana_in wrote:

  Roshan wrote: >> Dig << YaaruppA antha Sivrajkumar ? Unga emotions ellaam pArthA - I consider myself lucky not knowing him >> dig << there is a dialogue in mouna ragam. karthik would say something like revathi is fearing that she would fall for his charm and smartness. karthik sonna OK......sivaraj kumar

  
  
  Yes
  
  

• From: great on Thu Jun 7 14:42:17 2007.

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  Mouna Raagam and Nayagan combination DVD ,original, is just 65 Rs available in all leading store !!!!
  
  Mouna raagam is one of favourite MR movie . IR BGM and
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Jun 7 14:56:03 2007.

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  yaar antha sivaraj kumar?
  
  

• From: vidhyavd on Thu Jun 7 15:02:48 2007.

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  Shivraj kumar photo : Click the link below
  
  Click here to see included image.
  
  http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/745926_shiv.jpg.html
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jun 8 3:14:01 2007.

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  vidhyavd wrote:

  Shivraj kumar photo : Click the link below Click here to see included image. http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/745926_shiv.jpg.html

  
  
  Dhoolma....
  
  azhagunna azhagu kollai azhagu
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Jun 8 3:57:02 2007.

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  Inspite of the too-low volume speakers in Mani's film, VKR is a pleasant exception, he was as same as he was in other films. Mai didnt add any changes to the typical VKR characterisation, but still VKR didnt seemed out-of-blend along with otehr characters....
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jun 8 4:32:44 2007.

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  <Dig>
  While we are on the digression about Shivrajkumar, let me just add this:
  While Jayam Ravi was an apt choice for the fighter role in M.Kumaran, i thought the Telugu hero (forgot the name) was a joke in the original. That was until i saw a scene from the Kannada remake, which if i'm not wrong was starring SRK
  </Dig>
  
  Kostin:
  1) Apart from MR, did Mani Sir write the dialogues for any other film?
  2) If not, i wonder why...
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jun 8 4:40:15 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  <Dig> While we are on the digression about Shivrajkumar, let me just add this: While Jayam Ravi was an apt choice for the fighter role in M.Kumaran, i thought the Telugu hero (forgot the name) was a joke in the original. That was until i saw a scene from the Kannada remake, which if i'm not wrong was starring SRK </Dig> Kostin: 1) Apart from MR, did Mani Sir write the dialogues for any other film? 2) If not, i wonder why...

  
  
  Thalabathi
  Agni natchathiram
  
  I guess these 2 had Mani's style of dialogues
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jun 8 4:47:26 2007.

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  vidhyavd wrote:

  Shivraj kumar photo : Click the link below Click here to see included image. http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/745926_shiv.jpg.html

  
  
  My day is gone
  
  

• From: lavanya22rit on Fri Jun 8 4:53:41 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  vidhyavd wrote: Shivraj kumar photo : Click the link below Click here to see included image. http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/745926_shiv.jpg.html Dhoolma.... azhagunna azhagu kollai azhagu

  
  
  But still he cant match our own young commander !!!
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jun 8 4:58:29 2007.

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  lavanya22rit wrote:

  But still he cant match our own young commander !!!

  
  
  Who is that
  
  

• From: vidhyavd on Fri Jun 8 12:41:58 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  vidhyavd wrote: Shivraj kumar photo : Click the link below Click here to see included image. http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/745926_shiv.jpg.html Dhoolma.... azhagunna azhagu kollai azhagu

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Prasanna on Sat Jun 9 10:18:31 2007.

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  rr even bombay had those dialogs but it involved only arvind swamy and m k
  
  
  

• From: Prasanna on Sat Jun 9 11:29:07 2007.

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  this was the only movie wer mohan was made toact. the credit goes to mani
  he never opens his mouth wide and also never holds a mike in his hand
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 11 21:49:07 2007.

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  Selva,
  Time for next 'Movie of the week'.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 12 1:01:39 2007.

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  Before that, let me add this:
  
  I absolutely loved mohan's house in that movie. From the huge doors to the cozy bed, everything was *perfect*
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 12 1:16:15 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  Before that, let me add this: I absolutely loved mohan's house in that movie. From the huge doors to the cozy bed, everything was *perfect*

  
  
  Yes !! Plus the garden and lighting too were nice and pleasant.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jun 12 1:32:46 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  Before that, let me add this: I absolutely loved mohan's house in that movie. From the huge doors to the cozy bed, everything was *perfect*

  enakku verum sengal cement pOdhum
  
  Closely followed by the house in Anjali. A dining table with people squatting on the floor ! An aesthetic revolution by itself
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:37:41 2007.

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  Thanks for the reminder Joe romba somberi aayitten illa
  --
  
  Next Movie is about a "Theeraatha vilayaattu pillai"
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jun 12 1:41:00 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Thanks for the reminder Joe romba somberi aayitten illa -- Next Movie is about a "Theeraatha vilayaattu pillai"

  
  
  NetriKan?
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jun 12 1:41:01 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Thanks for the reminder Joe romba somberi aayitten illa -- Next Movie is about a "Theeraatha vilayaattu pillai"

  Manmadha Leelai ?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:41:41 2007.

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  Joe -
  
  PR - No
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:44:20 2007.

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  http://www.rajinifans.com/Review/Netrikan.asp
  
  NetriKann
  
  Cast :
  
  Rajnikanth
  Lakshmi
  Sarita
  Koundamani
  Vijayashanthi
  Menaga
  
  SP Muthuraman is a person who has directed lots of movies starring Thanga Thalaivar Super Star Rajinikanth, its even the fact that he was in lime light just because he has directed lots of Rajini/Kamal Movies. Enjoy my review of the classic movie "Netrikkan" starring Rajinikanth in dual role (Father and Son). Others include homely "Old" aunty Lakshmi, "Amruthanjan commercial fame" Saritha, Gowndamani, Menaka and great Goluttu female Super fighter Vijayashanthi as Super Star's Sister. Sarath Babu and Thengai Srinivasan have acted in "Gowrava Vedam" guys you know what Gourava vendam means - acting without taking any money!!! Directed by SP Muthuraman, Story and Dialogs Visu SCREEN PLAY BY K.B. the great. Lyrics by "Kavi Arasar" and Isai @ Ilayaraja. Produced by K.B's Kavithalayam (now rechristened Kavithalaya).
  
  STORY:
  
  The story is about the weakness (what else gals) of a very successful Enterpreneur/Multi Milloinaire Chakaravarthy (Father Rajini) with a little bit of self pride on his achievements who is the Bill Gates of yester years in the Textile City of Tamil Nadu (Coimbatore). He is a great womeniser (perhaps his only weakness) a typical Sabala Case who is capable of picking up any cute chicks. At heart he is too good a person he treats his employees well, highly charitable. He has a son (Santhosh Chakaravarthy) and a daughter Sangeetha (who else the great goluttu super fighter (Vijayashanthi) and an OFFICIAL wife Meenakshi (Lakshmi). Radha (Saritha) gets introduced as a candidate for PRO (Public Relations Officer) interview and eventually gets selected and she is sent to Hong Kong for training. Our Sabala Chakaravarthy goes to hong kong and rapes her. In the meanwhile his son gets to know his weakness and starts reforming him. Later Radha joins Santhosh and his mother in this "Critical" mission. The rest of the story is how they reform chakaravarthy a highly perverted, influencial person with little bit of typical Tamil Movie Masala!!!!
  
  Rajinikanth
  
  He has done a great job as ever in this movie. Both father and son are either extremes and performing the character of the Perverted Sabala case in the previous shot and the same person doing the character of a pious person in the next shot is extremely difficult job. I would say he has lived the father role. The peak performance of the super star is exhibited in every inch of the movie and the self pride he shows is at its best when he says "Nee Yuvarajana nan chakaravarthy da" and accomplishes What he wanted.
  
  Saritha
  
  She has done a great job as a person got raped by her boss. But in the last scene too much of sentiments and cries which was irritating to some extent. Lakshmi As usual lots of cries for her in this movie as every one knows she is too good at doing it. So it requires no special comments. Goundamani
  
  OOOOPs.... no one to get beaten by him in this movie so he had to show some real stuff in comedy and he did a great job in doing it. Dominating others many a times irritates the viewers. In this movie he has acted without his usual slang and beating senthil for no reason. His performance was at its peak when he corners charavarthy and says samandhi nan kilabukku(club) poi pillieeeds (Billiyards) veladaporen.
  
  Thengai
  
  Though he comes for only one scene as a doctor he did a great job he comes as Dr. "Kopparai Thengai Srinivasan" with a large pattai on his forehead a striped shirt and tie with a panja dhothy. The way he delivers dialogs and they way he responds to Rajini and the way he drives Rajini out of his clinic was really great. His performance was simply superb and its worth mentioning.
  
  Sarath Babu
  
  Though his character demanded some amount of acting he failed to do. It was a just a come and go for him. Menaka
  
  I am sure no body will be knowing this female to my knowledge she has acted as a heroine only in this movie. For those who want to findout who she is watch "Ramanin Moganam Song". Just she comes and goes with little bit of weeping and nail biting here and there of course on her fingers.
  
  COMMENTS:
  
  Punching Scenes
  
  In our view every scene Charavarthy appears is a punching scene. OOOOPs then the whole movie sans the songs/Typical Tamil Cinema Masala and romance becomes a punching scene. Anyway to highlight few good ones.
  
  1. The time chakaravarthy gets up is 7:30 in the morning (with an alarm clock) as soon as he opens his eyes, sees a porn poster in his room, Kalailla muzhikkaradhe oru two piece ponnoda poster. One servant comes with a variety of juices (bed juice have u ever heard of) on a trolly and the tray on the trolly contains porn poster, the way he keeps the empty glass back on the tray....it was really excellent then another servant comes with a tray full of cigars and another guy comes and crackles his knuckles (Kalla sodakku eduthu vida oru aal!!). He exhibited a great style when he flicks his left knee and the pillow which was on his leg falls on the bed!!!!! One has to see the number of desses/shoes/watches/googles Charavarthy has in his room. I was shocked to see that.
  
  2. On the other hand his son gets up at 5 in the morning as soon as he wakes up, sees Thiruppathi Venki (Those who don't know Venki he is Ammu's husband) very rich god. He has a very simple life style, not venki our Hero Santhosh.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 12 1:45:09 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Before that, let me add this: I absolutely loved mohan's house in that movie. From the huge doors to the cozy bed, everything was *perfect* enakku verum sengal cement pOdhum Closely followed by the house in Anjali. A dining table with people squatting on the floor ! An aesthetic revolution by itself

  
  
  Yes PR - I liked it. Thanks for reminding
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:46:22 2007.

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  I had this movie for a long time since I received better nominations during this period without any overlap between the other choices. (e.g. mullum malarum)
  
  Finally, listing it !
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 12 1:48:23 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  http://www.rajinifans.com/Review/Netrikan.asp NetriKann Cast : Rajnikanth Lakshmi Sarita Koundamani Vijayashanthi << Heroine >>

  
  
  It was Menaga
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:54:11 2007.

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  Thanks Roshan ! Have edited my Intro post !
  
  / dig Has she acted in any other films ? Few e.g. ? / dig
  
  --
  
  Third Eye
  
  Pros: Rajini,Characterisation,Music,Dialogues
  Cons: Under developed love sequence of rajini,fights
  
  
  I have watched this movie umpteen number of times and somehow I never get tired of rajini in this movie.Watching this movie, I feel that by rajini’s decision to switch over as a hero, tamil film world has lost an excellent
  villain. Rajini can look evil without any loud mouthed dialogues as was evident in movies like moondru mudichu,netrikann and more recently in chandramukhi ( as vettaiyan raja).
  Well the story goes like this.....Chakravarthy is a self made crorepathi in coimbatore. His family consists of wife Meenakshi(Lakshmi), son Santhosh( Rajini) and daughter sangeetha(Vijaya shanthi). Chakravarthy is devoted to his family but he has a weakness for women. He is highly promiscuous which his children are unaware.But when his son comes to know of this trait, he takes it upon himself to correct his father. So Chakravarthy escapes to hongkong where he meets radha (saritha) , his employee whom he had sent to hongkong for training. He takes advantage and rapes. Coming back, he is infuriated by the changes done by ’’General Manager’’ only to find that radha is the GM. Worse, she is also his daughter-in-law. Santhosh and Radha together push him to the edge. What happens next forms the rest of the story.
  Although its a kind of cliche’d story, the strength like in the acting of rajinikanth. He has differentiated between the arrogant,promiscuous short tempered father and obedient,patient and virtuous son. I simply lived chakravarthy, Rajini was first class. My personal favourites are the initial scenes showing the difference between the father and the son, the scene where he talks to radha after molesting her with radha repeating the same thing to him later, the scene where he talks to sarath babu requesting him not to marry his daughter.
  Music is by Ilayaraaja. BGM’s are good.Special mention to the BGM where chakravarthy confronts radha.Songs are also good. I liked Maapillaikku maaman manasu and theeradha vilaiyattu pillai.
  Dialogues are by Visu. Excellent dialogues.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 1:57:10 2007.

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  Intha review konjam harsh ah irukkira maari irukku
  
  http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Netrikann-46241-1.html
  
  Pros: BGM,story,Rajni as Chakravarthy
  Cons: Fight scenes,unnecessary songs
  
  “Netrikannai thurappinum kutram kutrame” (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a mistake) This is a famous dialogue from the film “Thiruvilaiyadal” .Nakkeran,the great Tamil poet confronts Lord Shiva(enacted by Shivaji) by sticking to his stand and saying that he feels that even though a mistake is committed by God himself,he would say in His face that it is a mistake and that he
  is not afraid of His (Lord Shiva) anger.But,does this movie justify this title? Let us see…
  Chakravarthy(Rajni) is a millionare in coimbatore who has a model family – a devoted son, wife and daughter. His business is flourishing and he has his family in the board of directors for the company.He is very attached to his family. But he has one major weakness: women. His wife(played by Lakshmi) is very timid and even though she knows his weakness,she is not able to control him. His son(also played by Rajni) is very attached to his father .But when he comes to know that his father is a womanizer ,he slowly realizes that he has to take charge.Till now,he had played the role of an obedient son.But now he has to mend the ways of his father.So he tries to control him.But Chakravarty breaks free and goes to Hong Kong.An employee(Saritha) comes to see him.Chakravarty takes advantage of the situation and violates her. When he comes back to Coimbatore ,he is surprised to see Saritha as GM who has been appointed by the board of directors. But the major shock is that he comes to know that Saritha and his son are married!
  
  The rest of the story deals with how Chakravarthy handles this embarrassing situation and how he realizes his mistakes. Chakravarthy is a dream role for Rajni.He has done full justice to this role.The contrast between Chakravarthy and his son is well brought out in the first few scenes. Lakshmi is really good as a docile and timid wife. Maneka does the role of the other Rajni’s lover. Kaundamani, Sarath Babu are also there in the movie and are ok.
  
  But why is the movie titled “Netrikann”(third eye) ? Chakravarty’s son ,when he comes to know that his father is a womanizer,teaches a lesson to his father. He is not afraid to say straight on his father’s face that he had committed a mistake.Even though Chakravarty threatens him and asks him to behave like a son,his son refuses and makes him understand his mistakes.One can compare the father character to Shiva and the son character to Nakkeeran.So,I guess “Netrikann” title is apt.
  Ilayaraja’s BGMs are really good and the song “Ramanin Mohanam”(lyrics by Kannadasan) stands out.But the film is not without any flaws.Rajni could have avoided over-acting in some places.Some of the songs are unnecessary and the visuals are cheap. Maneka falls for Rajni in the first scene itself which is not at all believable.In the fight scenes,it is evident that a dupe( and not Rajni) is fighting.That could have been easily avoided. In spite out of all these flaws, it is an enjoyable movie and can be watched. Rajni fans,I am sure,would have a whale of time watching this movie.
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Tue Jun 12 1:58:11 2007.

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  Netrikan one of the best movies of RAJINIKANTH.... shown a new diamension of his acting skills
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 12 1:58:42 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  [tscii] / [b">dig Has she acted in any other films ? Few e.g. ? / dig

  
  
  Yeah she has but I am unable to recollect the names right now. PR will know I am sure
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 12 2:03:34 2007.

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  I remember many films in which RK played -ve roles. But this one is a diff one indeed. Neatly balanced with 2 roles. Father being arrogant, stylish and an opportunist. Son being obedient, humble.
  
  I love the scene in which Son rajini will be explaining about the greatness of Lord Rama whereas Father rajini will start dreaming about Rama's Father Dasarathan
  
  And the sequence
  "Theeraatha vilayaattu pillai"
  
  RK : "Namakkum 60 thinaayiram pondaatigal irunthaa eppadi irukkum"
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jun 12 2:05:02 2007.

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  Menaka is predominantly malayalam actress,did very few tamil,Telugu movies ..currently she is acting in Malayalam TV serials.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 12 2:29:31 2007.

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  I like the song "Raamanin mOganam... Janaki manthiram KJJ and SJ
  
  

• From: seran on Tue Jun 12 3:05:17 2007.

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  Thanks Selva, for choosing a SS movie during Sivaji release.
  
  Indha vaaran Rajini Vaaram
  
  

• From: Raghu on Tue Jun 12 4:59:59 2007.

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  Father Rajni DONS the movie, RAJNI as sarcastic VILLIAN is UNBEATABLE
  
  
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jun 12 5:09:18 2007.

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  Vappa Santhosh
  
  very entertaining
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 12 5:28:00 2007.

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  Chakravarthy is one of Rajini's best characters.
  "Pombalainganna enakku allergy-nnu, en pondattiya thavira, yaaru, ah.. Ms. Raadha, ivangalukku eppadi theriyum?". And after she leaves the room, he touches his cheeks and remarks "adiya adhu?!.."
  
  "Nee inga enna panra?"
  "Naandhaan unga company-oda pudhu GM"
  "My FOOT!!"
  
  But I wish someone else would have done the role of the son. That would have made much more impact..
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Jun 12 5:57:04 2007.

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  Rajini in Netrikan was amazing.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 12 7:05:45 2007.

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  Rajini's signature expressions and trademark histrionics were tailor made for the role. One of the films where he actually 'shone' and was charismatic. Stylish as well. Sarcasm was top-notch.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jun 12 7:10:39 2007.

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  Rajini's dialogue delivery, more than the dialogues themselves, is the highlight of the film:
  Just when Saritha slaps him and is about to leave the room
  "You are appointed"....picks up the phone "manager... come here"
  Absolutely nothing in the lines, but it makes me laugh every single time.
  
  

  Roshan wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Has she acted in any other films ? Few e.g. [/b]? Yeah she has but I am unable to recollect the names right now. PR will know I am sure

  Haven't the foggiest. In my defence, her performance (!) was as forgettable as herself.
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 12 7:21:47 2007.

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  Under goofs: watch out for the scene where Rajini looks at the doll with the 'special' glasses on. There is a huge continuity gap, with the items on the table changing places when the doll is nude and with clothes on..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 12 9:53:29 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  But I wish someone else would have done the role of the son. That would have made much more impact..

  
  
  
  
  Rajini did handle two radically different characters very well. Superb characterizations, top-notch acting, deadly BGMs and great dialogs are the highlights.
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 12 10:32:16 2007.

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  Nerd, I can see why Rajini was needed to perform the son's role (including the scene where he dupes Lakshmi into believing that she is carrying the money for Chakravarthi). But the main confrontation was between Saritha and the father. The son didn't have much of a role to play in the later part of the movie. In fact, what he did was routine stuff. Chakravarthi was so good that any extra role by Rajini would have been radically different.
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jun 12 12:28:48 2007.

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  One of my top 5 Rajini movies!
  
  Superb story, screenplay, characterisation, performance, music, etc etc etc...
  
  
  
  

• From: Rocky_ on Tue Jun 12 16:36:32 2007.

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  One of Rajini's BEST Performances!!!
  
  My Favorite Scene is when Chakracarthy makes a pass at Saritha, she slaps him and walks to the door.
  
  Chakravarthy: U R APPOINTED!!!
  Saritha:
  Chakravarthy: yes....yes.....u r appointed! (walks to the phone) manager......kaameen!
  
  
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jun 12 16:40:26 2007.

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  The scene where he will think that Goundu had brought some gal to his guest-house, when actually it will be his own son in the bed covered by a saree, Rajini will go explaining how "Naan kolandha manasu ullavan," play some night-club music and start dancing, will be sooo funny!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 12 17:21:27 2007.

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  I have the netRikkaN DVD with me. I will post the exact dialogs in that scene after I reach home. Now I don't even have time to recollect the dialog
  
  neenga appA, naan puLLa
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jun 12 17:22:41 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  I have the netRikkaN DVD with me. I will post the exact dialogs in that scene after I reach home. Now I don't even have time to recollect the dialog neenga appA, naan puLLa

  
  
  Ithu Bedroom, Ithu Vilakku, Ithu Kattil, Ithu Padukkai, Ithu Thalagaani, Ithu Oothuvathi, Nee Ponnu, Naan Payyan!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 12 17:24:00 2007.

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  Thats not right bay, you missing something. I bet
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jun 12 17:26:12 2007.

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  Naan Kalaya Rasikuravaen, Penna Rasikuravaen, Kulandha manasu ullavan.... Ippo neeyum kolanthayaaganum-nu nenaikuravaen!
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 13 0:57:17 2007.

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  Favorite scene #1:
  
  Rajini will pretend as if his car broke down just to ogle at a chick (!) who will be standing in a bus stop. Some guy comes and picks that girl up in a bike and Rajini will get back to the car,
  
  andha rose coat pOttuRuntha ponnu epdi irunthuchu?
  entha ponnu?
  adhu dhAn bus stop-la pAthu palliLichIngaLE
  eehaaaahaaahaaa
  inthAnga thodainga asadu vazhiyuthu
  
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jun 13 0:59:40 2007.

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  Enjoy some scenes and songs from the movie...
  
  http://www.rajinifans.com/videogallery/index.php?folder=/Netrikan/
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 13 1:04:51 2007.

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  This is the dialog, bay
  
  ithu bedroom ithu viLakku
  ithu kattil ithu padukkai
  ithu thalagaani ithu oothupathi
  nee ponnu naan payyan
  
  
  Replace the last line with neenga appa, naan payyan and you will get one of my favorite chinna Rajini scenes
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Jun 13 11:14:09 2007.

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  Good.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 13 11:20:18 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Good.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Jun 13 11:22:51 2007.

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  Naan antha padathai sariya parthathillai
  
  

• From: atqsar72 on Wed Jun 13 11:25:26 2007.

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  In NETRIKAN back-ground score is extrodinary.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 13 11:27:06 2007.

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  Yes. Especially the old Rajini's theme
  Incidentally netRikkaN is my mom's most favorite Rajini movie
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 19 11:16:47 2007.

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  POOVE UNAKKAAGA
  
  A movie review by Balaji Balasubramaniam
  
  Cast: Vijay, Sangeetha, Anju Arvind, Nagesh, M.N.Nambiar, 'Malaysia' Vasudevan, Jaiganesh, Charlie
  Music: S.A.Rajkumar
  Direction: Vikraman
  
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  << First Two paragraphs in the review have been edited >>
  
  The families of 'Malaysia' Vasudevan and Jaiganesh have been bitter enemies ever since the former's sister, Janaki, and the latter's brother, Robert, eloped. One fine day, they receive a letter from Raja(Vijay), the son of Robert and Janaki, saying that he intends to visit them. True to his word, he shows up and finds a residence in the same street. Winning over members of the family one by one, he confesses to being married when they try to fix him up with a girl of their choice. Nirmala(Sangeetha) shows up soon after, proclaiming to be his wife. When cornered, Raja reveals that he has a secret agenda for making sure the two feuding families come together and Nirmala too agrees to go along with his plan.
  
  Vijay's love affair is the highlight of the movie and is one of the most well-handled romances in tamil movies. It is clean, sweet and well-picturised. But inspite of the winning love affair, the director would have achieved only partial success if he had concentrated less on the other portions. But Vijay's bringing together of the oldies in the families, especially the reunion of Nagesh and Nambiar, is very interesting too. There is a light vein of humour running through the whole movie and most scenes(such as the initial portions where the family members are introduced and later when they take a peek at Vijay without the others knowing) manage to bring a smile to our lips. The short segment with Sangeetha posing as Vijay's wife(whole movies, such as Nesam Pudhusu have been based on this theme) has its humorous moments too.
  
  The movie also has some surprises up its sleeve(two just before the intermission and one in the climax) and they are definitely startling. The twist in the middle of the movie is especially unexpected and the director, rightly anticipating its impact, announces the intermission right after with "Idhu Eppadi Irukku?". The climax resists the temptation to take the well-trodden path of giving Vijay some oppurtunity for stunts(the setup is there with both Jaiganesh and 'Malaysia' Vasudevan organizing stick-wielding goons) and instead opts for an admittedly cinematic but clever solution to the problem. The director also follows this with an effective ending with Vijay's dialog making several fine points about love.
  
  The one thing the movie lacks, which could have made it the perfect love story, is imaginative song sequences. Barring the one song which plays in the background while portraying Vijay's increasing love, the other song sequences are unimpressive. Even Aanandham Aanandham... is no great shakes and registers solely because it is played so many times(S.A.Rajkumar's usual formula for making a song a hit!).
  
  Vijay brings the right mix of comedy and romance to his portrayal. He is playful during the initial sequences while hitting the right note as the soft-spoken youngster falling in love during the second half. Sangeetha and Anju Arvind look pretty. Nambiar and Nagesh have the largest roles among the rest of the cast and perform well.
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jun 19 11:19:06 2007.

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  My favourite Vijay movie
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 19 11:20:07 2007.

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  I think this was the movie which started the lalalalal BGM theme
  
  

• From: great on Tue Jun 19 11:23:01 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  My favourite Vijay movie

  
  
  Intha padathuku apparam thaanae nee vijay faan aana
  
  

• From: ThalaNass on Tue Jun 19 11:23:15 2007.

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  One of the best from Vijay..
  
  

• From: great on Tue Jun 19 11:25:06 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  I think this was the movie which started the lalalalal BGM theme

  
  
  Not only lalalalal bgm , SAR has standard 2/3 BGM notes
  
  like for comedy scene tooooooooooooooon
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jun 19 11:32:01 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  I think this was the movie which started the lalalalal BGM theme

  
  
  I think It started with Vikraman's first movie 'puthu vasantham' itself.
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jun 19 11:33:23 2007.

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  Aamanga t rajendar fan
  

  great wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: My favourite Vijay movie Intha padathuku apparam thaanae nee vijay faan aana

  
  

• From: joe on Tue Jun 19 11:34:48 2007.

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  I think Povve Unakkaga is the movie helped Vijay escape from his father SAC and it is the turning point of Vijay's carrier..(Athukku munnaala carrier-nnu onnu iruthucha enna? )
  
  

• From: great on Tue Jun 19 11:35:59 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  Aamanga t rajendar fan great wrote: ajithfederer wrote: My favourite Vijay movie Intha padathuku apparam thaanae nee vijay faan aana

  
  
  Ajith fans itha nalla paathungO
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jun 19 11:37:23 2007.

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  Unaku hulksterae paravala
  

  great wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: Aamanga t rajendar fan great wrote: ajithfederer wrote: My favourite Vijay movie Intha padathuku apparam thaanae nee vijay faan aana Ajith fans itha nalla paathungO

  
  

• From: great on Tue Jun 19 11:38:30 2007.

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  seri kelamu kaathu varathum
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Jun 19 11:39:49 2007.

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• From: Nerd on Tue Jun 19 11:39:55 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I think Povve Unakkaga is the movie helped Vijay escape from his father SAC and it is the turning point of Vijay's carrier..(Athukku munnaala carrier-nnu onnu iruthucha enna? )

  
  
  Yes! athukku munnAdi rasigan, deva pOnRa nall karuthuLLa padangaL panninaaru. Anyway poovE unakkAga's climax was very famous, even I like it sans the backgroud score
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jun 19 11:43:27 2007.

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  POOVE UNAKKAAGA! The first decent VJ movie... And the movie that brought back love-stories in to the picture in the 90s after the Masala regime in the 80s! And this movie and Kaadhal Kottai paved the way for a new generation of actors and trend!
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Tue Jun 19 12:02:24 2007.

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  ONe of the lovely movies where LOVE is given real decent importance ....... Vijay oda movies laye idhu oiru pudicha movie ..... andha time la Vijay's earlier movies were not that good .... indha movie was a trend setter ....
  
  Nice movie
  
  

• From: keerthy on Tue Jun 19 18:33:13 2007.

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  bingleguy wrote:

  ONe of the lovely movies where LOVE is given real decent importance ....... Vijay oda movies laye idhu oiru pudicha movie ..... andha time la Vijay's earlier movies were not that good .... indha movie was a trend setter .... Nice movie

  
  
  ......i think this was the first official hit of Vijay which ran for more than 200 days ....one of the top 3 movies of vikraman.....beautiful screenplay, nice music and most of all had a lovely love story
  
  

• From: kb on Tue Jun 19 18:51:39 2007.

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  sila peruku kadal roja chedi maathiri ..
  oru poo poothu vizhuthina.. ennonu
  
  aana sila peruku.. antha roja maathiri.. oru tharava poothu uthiricha.. marupadiyum antha poo pookathu
  
  orey kustamappa.. touch pannitaango..
  
  i love the comedy scenes in this movie.. esp after sangeetha arrives..
  all songs were HIT.. anandam anandam,sollamaley
  
  nadurotula paati oruthi lift-unu ketpa dont miss
  ava veetla pethi oruthi azhaga irrupa dont miss
  avan nenjila arvind saamya unna ninapa done miss.. (evlo assumptions )
  
  whisky brandy mathavan kaasula vaangi kodutha dont miss..
  
  

• From: buddysathi on Tue Jun 19 19:49:07 2007.

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  MOVIE OF THE WEEK - "POOVE UNAKKAGA" -nu paathu konjam tension aiten!
  
  plz, yaar ethai suggest panninanganu therialae! nalla erupeenga neenga, plzzz dedicate some thalaivar movies for next 2-3 weeks since it is 'SIVAJI SEASON'!
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jun 20 0:21:43 2007.

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  buddysathi wrote:

  MOVIE OF THE WEEK - "POOVE UNAKKAGA" -nu paathu konjam tension aiten! plz, yaar ethai suggest panninanganu therialae! nalla erupeenga neenga, plzzz dedicate some thalaivar movies for next 2-3 weeks since it is 'SIVAJI SEASON'!

  
  
  tonson aagadhinga buddy
  
  modhalla kutti sivaji padam
  
  next week periya sivaji padam
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Jun 20 0:53:00 2007.

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  buddysathi wrote:

  MOVIE OF THE WEEK - "POOVE UNAKKAGA" -nu paathu konjam tension aiten! plz, yaar ethai suggest panninanganu therialae! nalla erupeenga neenga, plzzz dedicate some thalaivar movies for next 2-3 weeks since it is 'SIVAJI SEASON'!

  
  
  We don't give much importance to SEASONs though we don't completely avoid the same. We receive many movies that can be discussed here. We just choose the appropriate time frame to list them so that there will be sufficient gap b/w the discussion on various movies and we will have a nice mixture of movies from different generation.
  IF you want any movie to be discussed, send the same to me
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Jun 20 5:48:23 2007.

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  buddysathi,
  For last 10 days Rajini's 'NetriKan' was the movie of the week ..I don't see even a single post from you ..But Now you come here to complain only ..Hmm.
  
  

• From: mareen on Wed Jun 20 6:31:27 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I think Povve Unakkaga is the movie helped Vijay escape from his father SAC and it is the turning point of Vijay's carrier..(Athukku munnaala carrier-nnu onnu iruthucha enna? )

  well said !!
  
  i loved this movie a Superb Movie !!
  
  

• From: cittu on Wed Jun 20 11:01:27 2007.

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  This movie is one of the reason that i am vijay fan now.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Jun 20 11:37:50 2007.

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  What happened to all Vijay Fans
  
  comeon... Post your description on the movie
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 20 11:41:21 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  buddysathi, For last 10 days Rajini's 'NetriKan' was the movie of the week ..I don't see even a single post from you ..But Now you come here to complain only ..Hmm.

  
  
  Even when MM was the movie of the week I did not see posts from ANY Rajini fan apart from me. Last week also, me and bay were the only ones who posted.
  
  

• From: mareen on Wed Jun 20 11:51:31 2007.

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  poove unakkaaga is the movie which i like vijay alot, it had good comedies.
  
  i remember renting this video many years back and then playing it again again and it nearly made me cry. The climax was so good. the songs were all nice to listen to.
  
  when Vijay sings in her marriageee ohhh so saad!!
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Jun 20 11:54:03 2007.

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  I think Comedy in this movie is a big plus point for its huge success.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Jun 20 12:03:38 2007.

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  Great timing. Movie running on KTV now
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Wed Jun 20 12:09:51 2007.

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  Nice decent movie.....Vijay fits the role perfectly...Comedy was good....Climax was very different (for that time period)...Enakae kashtama pochu
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jun 20 12:23:39 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  joe wrote: buddysathi, For last 10 days Rajini's 'NetriKan' was the movie of the week ..I don't see even a single post from you ..But Now you come here to complain only ..Hmm. Even when MM was the movie of the week I did not see posts from ANY Rajini fan apart from me. Last week also, me and bay were the only ones who posted.

  
  
  I guess our guys were busy with SIVAJI!
  
  Back to PU...
  
  

• From: buddysathi on Wed Jun 20 13:10:55 2007.

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  m_23_bayarea wrote:

  Nerd wrote: joe wrote: buddysathi, For last 10 days Rajini's 'NetriKan' was the movie of the week ..I don't see even a single post from you ..But Now you come here to complain only ..Hmm. Even when MM was the movie of the week I did not see posts from ANY Rajini fan apart from me. Last week also, me and bay were the only ones who posted. I guess our guys were busy with SIVAJI! Back to PU...

  
  
  Sorry Guys, I am relatively a very poor hubber, Only due to "Sivaji" factor, my posts have increased. I jus noticed, that I was a member for almost 2 years and my posts count were only 200 till Sivaji's release, but within a week, I have posted more than 200!
  
  " Ellarukum oru periya SORRY"! Plz my next movie suggestion wud be "Raajathi Raaja"! BTW, is it already discussed?
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Wed Jun 20 14:05:06 2007.

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  poove unakkaga -- a nice movie and definitely a good portrayal of vijay
  
  vijay needed big directors like Fazil,Vikraman to get shaped up
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jun 21 1:54:33 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Great timing. Movie running on KTV now

  
  
  YUp ! I also noticed that.
  I think it would have been good REFRESH for many
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Thu Jun 21 1:56:45 2007.

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  POOVA UnakAga - a typical VIKRAMAN Movie...
  nothing more than thAt...
  
  

• From: mareen on Thu Jun 21 5:31:26 2007.

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  which other movie Vickraman directed
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Thu Jun 21 5:35:37 2007.

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  gokulam
  unnidathil ennai koduthaen
  Suryavamsam
  Pudhu vasantham
  perumpulli
  Vaanathai pola
  unnai ninathu
  priyamana thozhi
  chennai kadhal
  
  

• From: rockydeva on Thu Jun 21 5:38:59 2007.

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  ajay oru padam vituta
  
  PUTHIYA MANNARGAL
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Thu Jun 21 10:28:29 2007.

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  Excellent. The movie that made me a Vijay fan because it gave him a new, fresh image!
  
  Everything about the film, the story, acting, music, comedy, was excellent. Anandham Anandham is my all time fav song as well.
  
  A movie that I can never get tired of watching!
  
  

• From: sakthivel_cool on Thu Jun 21 12:18:16 2007.

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  My favorite Vijay film. Although he doesnt strain himself. I felt he was apt in the given role.
  
  

• From: mareen on Thu Jun 21 18:12:35 2007.

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  Kollywoodfan wrote:

  Excellent. The movie that made me a Vijay fan because it gave him a new, fresh image! Everything about the film, the story, acting, music, comedy, was excellent. Anandham Anandham is my all time fav song as well. A movie that I can never get tired of watching!

  i also became his fan after this
  
  

• From: mareen on Thu Jun 21 18:15:15 2007.

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  anyone want poove Unakkage songs can PM me for the link
  
  

• From: kb on Thu Jun 21 18:33:25 2007.

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  i want sollamale video.. can someone upload in U tube
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jun 22 0:19:26 2007.

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  mareen wrote:

  Kollywoodfan wrote: Excellent. The movie that made me a Vijay fan because it gave him a new, fresh image! Everything about the film, the story, acting, music, comedy, was excellent. Anandham Anandham is my all time fav song as well. A movie that I can never get tired of watching! i also became his fan after this

  
  
  
  
  Just a doubt. Before this movie there is no useful of Vijay i believe All of a sudden just by this one movie you guys became fan of vijay
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jun 22 3:27:19 2007.

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  ajaybaskar wrote:

  gokulam unnidathil ennai koduthaen Suryavamsam Pudhu vasantham perumpulli Vaanathai pola unnai ninathu priyamana thozhi chennai kadhal

  
  
  nan pesa ninaipadhellam
  
  

• From: mareen on Fri Jun 22 4:46:15 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  mareen wrote: Kollywoodfan wrote: Excellent. The movie that made me a Vijay fan because it gave him a new, fresh image! Everything about the film, the story, acting, music, comedy, was excellent. Anandham Anandham is my all time fav song as well. A movie that I can never get tired of watching! i also became his fan after this Just a doubt. Before this movie there is no useful of Vijay i believe All of a sudden just by this one movie you guys became fan of vijay

  Actually i watched this Films after vijay delivered few Good ones and ofcourse i liked his film with Vijayakanth
  
  

• From: Tia on Fri Jun 22 18:23:18 2007.

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  One of my favourite vijay movies! very sweet! songs are looooooveelyy! solamalae yaar paathathuu! hehe i luv tht song!
  
  

• From: mareen on Fri Jun 22 19:44:15 2007.

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  i started listening to this movie's song thanks to this thread
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Sat Jun 23 9:56:54 2007.

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  OKEI movie
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 26 3:00:43 2007.

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  Nizhal nijamaagiradu
  
  Released : 1978
  
  Directed By : K.Balachandar
  
  Music Director : MSV ( Right ? )
  
  Actors :
  
  Kamal Hasan
  Sumithra
  Ananthu
  Sarath babu
  Shoba
  Sundari Bai
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 26 3:04:16 2007.

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  Kamban aemaanthaan !
  Ilam kanniyarai -- malar endraanaE
  
  namma hubbers (ladies esp) hammer kodukurathukulla
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 26 3:11:32 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Kamban aemaanthaan ! Ilam kanniyarai -- malar endraanaE namma hubbers (ladies esp) hammer kodukurathukulla

  
  
  Selva,
  
  I am an exception to this. nAn hammer kodukka mAttEn. It's one of my favourite songs - because of the lovely rendition of SPB and ofcourse a nice tune. athukkAga lyrics-a mannichu vidalAm
  
  Another beautiful song is "illakkaNam mARuthO ilakkiyam aanathO" by my all time favourites SPB and Vani Jeyaram
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 26 3:17:40 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Selva, I am an exception to this. nAn hammer kodukka mAttEn. It's one of my favourite songs - because of the lovely rendition of SPB and ofcourse a nice tune. athukkAga lyrics-a mannichu vidalAm Another beautiful song is "illakkaNam mARuthO ilakkiyam aanathO" by my all time favourites SPB and Vani Jeyaram

  
  
  
  Yup ! SPB
  btw, Those who watch the film for the first time will feel that KH is the HERO of the movie. But at the end, it will be the other guy (Servant) who becomes the HERO OF THE MOVIE (surprising twist).
  
  But padathula ellarumae MEGA SIZE KANNADI potukittu payamuruthuvaango
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jun 26 3:39:55 2007.

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  Nice Movie!
  Grat Performance by kamal. I see anbe Sivam\Communism ect in that time itselff....in form of kamal.....
  
  only that there were some BIG flaws in the climax....
  1) why on sudden that CHalam accepts the truth that he responible for shoba's pregnancy?? he hiding the truth becos of his fear on sumitra, is an angle not shown
  2)kamal lauds shoba for her blow to upper grade rich ppls, but in climax he accepts sumitra's love...what a contradiction....
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jun 26 3:42:22 2007.

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  selva, its only sumitra, sarathbabu\mouli who wears glass....others dont and look young....shoba's face looked very modern for that time and sumitra looked perfect maami, and i wondered what made kamal's character to fall in love with her...
  
  kamal calling the male servant as kaasi, instead of sevidan[its how others call] - i see anbe sivam here itself
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jun 26 4:04:28 2007.

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  kamla's punch one liners were ultimate....
  
  Ivlo kaaram sappittu eppdi neenga brammachariyam kadaipidikkerenga???
  
  thozhilaaligal kai eppavume suthamaathaan irukkum
  
  parasthreekkal kaiyil thottu tharuvathai, kazhuvi thaan naan thoduven, ithuen aachaaram
  
  to be continued
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 26 4:10:09 2007.

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  Superb choice. One of my favourite Kamal movies . Will post soon..
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Jun 26 4:25:56 2007.

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  intha padathula aandavar romba dum adipaaru. KB oliga
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 26 4:46:11 2007.

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  Selva,
  
  mega size kannadi.. Especially Sarathbabu and his sister, symbolic really! Because, they are the 'flawed' characters.
  
  She's a prejudiced feminist. She trusts her brother(SB) and that makes it all the more 'difficult' for him to reveal his 'despicable act', cheating a (poor) helpless servant (the main protagonist of the film). The young girl, as she transcends from innocence to maturity, has never been as good in celluloid. As we know, KB generally goes for that pada-pada pesum pseudo-intellectual smart women in his films. Sumitra, however, is flawed. And The protagonist's dream sequence had that comical innocence, it wasn't dampening. Neither was it a dampening KB metaphor.
  
  Mouli's character was typical KB.
  
  Kamal stars as a vibrant young man, looks like KB wrote the character with him in the mind. The character's policies remain a mirror image, with some of his own policies/qualities. His atheism, (the first to show?) and communism, were imposed in the film through KH's character, Varumayin niram sivappu and Anbe sivam are the other films to show that. And his charisma needs a mention. With a cigarette in his hand almost every other scene, his dialogue delivery with sarcasm is Especially lines that Sakala mentions.
  
  KH likes Sumitra, the mentally slow guy likes the protagonist, - how does shadows become real? The twist in the end, with Sarath's acceptance to hedious crime and finally, the protagonist's bold 'decision', vintage KB without the 'melodrama'. Every character is developed and defined. IMO, Aval appidi thaan and NN, were the most realistic films that era
  
  Some of the lines from KH, if attempted by others would sound absurd and would fail to evoke the effect. Even in its telugu version, RK struggles at times to have that subtlety. The fondliness for sumitra, was terrific. Their opinions/policies clash and her inflated ego prevents her from 'accepting him'.
  
  The film was shot like a drama, the friendship and the relations were subtle. It doesn't have the 'over the top' drama effect like a vintage KB film would have.
  
  Of course, KB's stamp was sealed at places, it isn't somber and stereotyped like his other efforts.
  
  BTW, almost forgot, KH's bharathanatyam -
  
  Almost forgot deja-Vu: KH's act to enter with slippers/shoes. The other being Sigappu Rojakkal.
  
  And Sakala, Why sarath accepts - it's the major part of 'second half'.Sumitra who rejects marriage, is actually a silent admirer of Kamal. So, Sarath, when he finds it out, goes to kamal. Finally, Sarath accepts that he would 'accept', and they convince Sumitra too.
  
  "kamal lauds shoba for her blow to upper grade rich ppls, but in climax he accepts sumitra's love"
  Kamal lauds Shoba for her decision to choose a rightful partner. And he isn't against 'upper grade rich people' . He's against the ones who cheat and spoil others lives. Wouldn't it be ridiculous if it was otherwise! it would be really fickle to generalize 'all rich people'!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 26 5:11:45 2007.

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  Thilak
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 26 5:30:10 2007.

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  mega size kannadi.. Especially Sarathkumar and his sister, symbolic really! Because, they are the 'flawed' characters.

  
  Thilak, nice analysis
  
  A couple more points. Kamal's character is so similar to today's so called 'cool' SRK characters, where he thrusts himself into another household. The only difference is he does it in his own super composed style and adds a different dimension. None could have and can do justice to that role. Notice how Kamal acknowledges Sarath's subserviant attitude to his sister ('neenga rendu perum anna thangachi maadhiriye illa. Ava school vaadhiyaar maadhiriyum nee student maadhirirum irukeenga?!'), but never lets any of that bother him - 'inga veetu saapadu saapdalaamnu nenaicha, hotel saapada pottu kazhutharukkura. Naalailerndhu un veetula dhaan saapadu ' NN is one of those DVDs I treasure in my collection.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 26 5:35:21 2007.

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  Thilak - read few parts of your GUEST OF THE DAY SECTION. Cool answers
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• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 26 5:51:02 2007.

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  'Ilakkanam Maarudho' is on of MSV's greatest compositions. Kannadhasan scales the metaphorical zenith as only he can. An ode to this classic song by Saravanan . For those of you interested in knowing more about the story, the director and the actors, the link has that too .
  
  

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  So many films come, with so many songs, many of them are forgotten, and get buried in the sands of time. Only very few remain etched in memory forever and are treasured for posterity. "Ilakkanam Maarudho" is one such timeless classic. O.Henry narrates in his famous "The Gift Of The Magi", "Now, there were two possessions of the James Dillingham Youngs in which they both took a mighty pride. One was Jim's gold watch that had been his father's and his grandfather's. The other was Della's hair. Had the queen of Sheba lived in the flat across the airshaft, Della would have let her hair hang out the window some day to dry just to depreciate Her Majesty's jewels and gifts. Had King Solomon been the janitor, with all his treasures piled up in the basement, Jim would have pulled out his watch every time he passed, just to see him pluck at his beard from envy". Likewise had the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon proudly lined up the best works of the international musicians, singers and poets on their side, we would, from our window, play "Ilakkanam Maarudho" just to gleefully watch them turn a nasty shade of green! Kalakendra's "Nizal Nijamaagirathu" was produced by Govindarajan & Duraiswami, with Screenplay, Dialogues and Direction by K.Balachandar. The film starred Kamal, Saratbabu, Sumitra, Shobha, Anumanthu, Mouli, Sundaribai, Oru Viral Krishna Rao and others. It was the first film of both Saratbabu and Shobha in Tamizh. And what a magnificent introduction it was for both of them! Nizhal Nijamaagirathu had only two songs, and the other song is the spellbinding "Kamban yemaandhaan"-SPB. Now let us dwell on this epic song, the song that reflects the changes in the lives of the two women, Indhumathi and Thilakam. ilakkanam maarudho ilakkiyam aanadho idhu varai nadithadhu adhu enna vedam idhu enna paadam The first two verses are devoted to Indhumathi and the next two, to Thilakam. The song begins with SPB singing "Ilakkanam maarudho" and the inimitable way in which he prolongs the question, and the percussion-dominated response of MSV make the song a winner in the very opening and fills the listener with a thrill of anticipation. How beautifully Kaviyarasar depicts the subtle alterations in the mindset of the Indhumathi, "Ilakkanam maarutho ilayakkayiam aanatho", he wonders! How come something poetic called love has found root in her inflexible mind? kallaana mullai indrenna vaasam kaatraana ragam enindha gaanam venmegham andru kaar megham indru yaar solli thandhaar mazhaikaalam endru manmathan enbavan kann thirandhaano pennmai thandhaano Adadaa, arpudham! Awesome analogies that are quintessential Kannadasan, as SPB in the voice of Indhu's alter ego questions her, rather tauntingly, on the changes that love has wrought in her wrought-iron cased heart, now suddenly the self-imposed iron fetters rot and break to pieces, as the woman in her asserts herself! Hark at SPB's mocking chuckle while singing "Yaar solli thandhaar", can anyone else do this? Enters Vani, Indhu herself bashfully answering her manasaatchi's queries. en vaazhkkai nadhiyil karai ondru kanden un nenjil etho karai ondru kanden puriyaadhadhaale thirai pottu vaithen thirai potta podhum anai pottadhillai maraithidum thiraidhannai vilakki vaippaayo viLakki vaippaayo How helplessly she brings out her bewilderment in these changes, how vulnerable she sounds when she pleads for an explanation. Trust Vani to so fetchingly bring out Kaviyarasar's lyrical play "vilakki vaippaayo, viLakki vaippaayo". Now we come to Thilakam's tale of betrayal and infamy. SPB again, thalaadum pillai ullamum vellai thalaattu paada aadharam illai deivangal ellaam unakkaga paadum paadamal ponaal edhu Deivam aagum marupadi pirakkum unakkoru paadhai uraippadhu Geethai Soothing words of consolation rendered with compassion. The way SPB splits "Aa thaaram illai" facilitates a double interpretation: "aadhaaram" meaning she has no license to sing a lullaby, and "Aa thaaram illai" meaning she is not yet a wife, so how can she be a mother! Kannadasan, brings his favourite "Geethai" as an oracle of better times that are just around the corner for Thilakam! Its Vani's turn again. Thilakam waking up to the love of her benefactor and bodyguard, deaf he may be, but dear he has become to her. maniyosai enna idi osai yenna edhu vandha podhum nee kettadhillai nizhalaaga vandhu arul seiyum Deivam nijamaaga vandhu ennai kaakka kanden nee ethu naan ethu yen indha sondham poorva jenma bandham The way VJ has rendered these lines so replete with expression shows how much she must have been moved by Kannadasan's lovely lyrics. She rounds off the verse with a haunting humming whilst getting back to the pallavi. MSV deserves our unreserved praise, understanding that for this song the lyrics need prominence, and appreciating the fact that Kannadasan had penned lyrics of singular beauty and relevance, he selflessly desisted from flaunting his unquestioned musical skills here. True, he dressed the words in an enticing tune, but he stopped with that. His interludes are simple and short, so that the focus is not turned away from the words. But even within that self-imposed restriction, he showed his capabilities. Listen to the flute-filled first interlude, the magical baton of the Mellisai Mannar reveals itself! A word on the picturization. As envisaged by Kannadasan, KB filmed the first half on Sumitra and the latter half on Shobha. A shot stands out evergreen in memory. Thilakam puts some clothes for washing, a vest of Kaasi's is among the heap. Just as she takes it to wash, Kaasi rushes to grab it from her. She looks at it, puzzled, when she finds the dirty imprint of her own palm on that. Long back, once when she found that her repeated calls had fallen on (actually) deaf ears, she had touched him to draw his attention. And Kaasi had carefully preserved the relic all these days. Understanding dawns in her eyes of his deep love for her. Oh, Shobha's eyes spoke so many volumes in that shot. Karuppu Vellaiyiloru kaaviyam indha paadal!

  
  
  Just a point about the source of the story: The link says that the movie was remade from the telugu version. But I remember the credits mentioning that the story is based on a malayalam novel.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 26 6:07:38 2007.

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  Kannan,
  
  Thanks so much for that post on 'illakkaNam mARuthO' - it's one of my all time favourite songs and the song sequence is I have seen the song itself 'n' number of times.
  
  

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  Adadaa, arpudham! Awesome analogies that are quintessential Kannadasan, as SPB in the voice of Indhu's alter ego questions her, rather tauntingly, on the changes that love has wrought in her wrought-iron cased heart, now suddenly the self-imposed iron fetters rot and break to pieces, as the woman in her asserts herself! Hark at SPB's mocking chuckle while singing "Yaar solli thandhaar", can anyone else do this?

  
  
  Very good observation. I have always thought of it when ever I listened to this song
  
  Reg: Vaani Jeyaram - Yes ! it's amazing - as mentioned by the author - when she sings 'vilakki vaippAyO - viLakki vaippAyO
  
  Overall Kannadasan's lyrics are outstanding in this song and he so eloquently captures the entire theme of the movie, in just one song. Amazing
  
  Great team work by MSV-Kannadasan-SPB-VJ
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 26 7:41:59 2007.

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  Roshan and Kannannn,
  'illakkaNam mARuthO' is my favorite too. Mellisai mannar and kavi arasu-in arpudamana song!
  
  Selva,
  Thanks again for picking this film!
  
  I will post few dialogues and particular scenes once I go back home
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 26 7:44:51 2007.

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  Kannannn,
  
  The script was written by KB, directed by someone else for the telugu version. Is it a mallu novel (or film..though I remember the year '1968' in the opening credits ), I'm not sure about that!
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jun 26 8:16:03 2007.

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  Nice film. I liked the lady character who lived in dreams as queen. We can see such characters in real life even within you. Kamal did very good job as usual. but i think he has done this type of character in many films. KB was good and MSV was terrific in songs especially Ilakkanam Maarudho and Kamban Eemandhan. Kamal + KB + MSV combo was superb (Aval Oru Thodargathai, Nizhal Nijamagirathu, Varumaiyin Niram Sigappu and Avargal)
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 26 8:43:44 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Kannannn, The script was written by KB, directed by someone else for the telugu version. Is it a mallu novel (or film..though I remember the year '1968' in the opening credits ), I'm not sure about that!

  
  Thilak, my mistake. It is not a novel. This is what the credits say:
  "Based on K. S. Sethumadhvan's Malayalam movie Adimakal (1969). Story - Pamman.
  
  Just curious, what does Adimakal mean?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 26 9:34:45 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Kannannn, The script was written by KB, directed by someone else for the telugu version. Is it a mallu novel (or film..though I remember the year '1968' in the opening credits ), I'm not sure about that! Thilak, my mistake. It is not a novel. This is what the credits say: "Based on K. S. Sethumadhvan's Malayalam movie Adimakal (1969). Story - Pamman. Just curious, what does Adimakal mean?

  
  
  Slave, I guess
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Jun 26 9:58:19 2007.

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  A superb analysis by Thilak4life !
  
  Cheers
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue Jun 26 10:03:35 2007.

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  Kannan,
  
  Adimakal means slaves.
  
  In this movie, Sumitra initially develops a hatred towards Kamal. She being a dance teacher doesn't allow Kamal inside the hall where the students are learning and will comment "Kazhuthaikku theriyuma Karpoora vaasanai"
  
  Later when she is away Kamal would do a short but sweet piece of Bharathanaatiyam in front of the students. Sumitra who would just come there would be stunned and speechless. On seeing her Kamal would apologitically but sarcastically say "Sorry! Ithu Karpoora vaasana(i) therinja kazhuthai" a scene which was received very well during the time of release (the release was scheduled for 3rd Feb 1978,changed to 30th March 1978,but finally hit the screens on 1st April).
  
  As everybody had pointed out the songs were simply great.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Jun 26 10:12:01 2007.

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  http://www.techsatish.com/2007/04/kamban-yemanthan-ellam-kanniyarai-tamil.html
  
  Link above is for Kamban emaandhan ! Male chauv. song !
  
  Fantastic tune !
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jun 26 10:22:51 2007.

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  Thilak and Murali Srinivas, spot on about the meaning. When searching for the meaning, came across the news that the author of the novel, Pamman passed away earlier this month.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jun 26 14:45:26 2007.

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  Adimakal = slave - I too checked with a Mallu friend
  
  Saw the movie again just now. After seeing all this discussion here I couldnt resist.
  
  Dialogues
  
  And need to mention Shoba's performance. And the title says "aRimugam - Shoba" Great performance for a debutant The way she immitates every one - starting from Sumithra and finally the baby pic in the calendar. Through out, her performance was so very realistic.
  
  Antha kaaikaRi mookku kaNNaadi and the way she explains - Vendakkai, carrot, uruLakezhangu, naduvula mocha kotta - mothathula saiva mookkukaNNAdi
  
  

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  Later when she is away Kamal would do a short but sweet piece of Bharathanaatiyam in front of the students. Sumitra who would just come there would be stunned and speechless. On seeing her Kamal would apologitically but sarcastically say "Sorry! Ithu Karpoora vaasana(i) therinja kazhuthai" a scene which was received very well during the time of release (the release was scheduled for 3rd Feb 1978,changed to 30th March 1978,but finally hit the screens on 1st April).

  
  
  And he'd continue - aanAlum unga anumathi illAma uLLa vanthathu thapputhAn - gaana mayil kaNda vAnkOzhinnu nenechukkunga
  
  Superb nakkal by KH through out the movie. His facial expressions, voice modulation ellAm orE nakkal nayyAndi - even in both song sequences . When he tries to walk into Sarath's house after he gets to know Shoba's incident;
  
  Sumithra : uLLa vantheenga mariyAtha kettudum
  
  Kamal : oho! appadi onnu enakku irukkA enna
  
  Then between KH and Shoba's maama (Krishnaraav).
  
  KR : ungaLukku yEn intha siramam
  
  Kamal : ethukkunnu kEttA ennayya solluvEn. iva vazhukki vizhunthava, ivaLukku naan vazhikAtti, iva enakku thangachi mAthiri, appadinnu ellAm enakku vArthai jaalam kAtta theriyAthu. intha mAthiri samayathula EzhaingaLukku uthavuRathu ennudaiya policy, pazhakkam, eedupAdu, latchiyam. Ethirtha veettu ammA baashaiyila solRathunnA naan oru Communist.
  
  KR : (would get emotional) Ayyaaa.... !!
  
  Kamal : Theyvam keyvam-nu sollAthE ennAla thaanga mudiyAthu
  
  Can quote many dialogues like this. EllaamE soooper
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Tue Jun 26 23:15:52 2007.

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  ..i saw this movie on tv while i was in India...watched only the second half...and really enjoyed it...good choice...
  
  i was so impressed with actor that plays the servant character...i saw glimses of Kamal's acting in him too (IMO )...
  
  and the title is very nice!! ...
  
  

• From: Braandan on Tue Jun 26 23:29:02 2007.

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  I still love listening to the superb songs "iLakkaNam maarudo", "kamban Emaanthaan"..
  
  The malayalam equivalent also has a similar good one "thaazhampoo maNammuLLa thaNuppuLLa raathriyil thanichirunnu urangunna cheruppakkaaree..."
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Jun 27 0:20:20 2007.

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  Sinthiya wrote:

  ..i saw this movie on tv while i was in India...watched only the second half...and really enjoyed it...good choice... i was so impressed with actor that plays the servant character...i saw glimses of Kamal's acting in him too (IMO )... and the title is very nice!! ...

  
  
  Ya that role was played well. Dont know who the actor was Has he done any other movies?
  
  And Mauli's role
  
  

• From: Braandan on Wed Jun 27 0:53:08 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Sinthiya wrote: ..i saw this movie on tv while i was in India...watched only the second half...and really enjoyed it...good choice... i was so impressed with actor that plays the servant character...i saw glimses of Kamal's acting in him too (IMO )... and the title is very nice!! ... Ya that role was played well. Dont know who the actor was Has he done any other movies? And Mauli's role

  
  
  I think the actor was "Anumanth" or "hanumanth". He had acted in other movies also..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 27 0:54:41 2007.

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  Its been so long since I saw this movie but I still rated it as one of my fav KH movies. Should watch it sometime soon. DVD is indeed available but havent gone to that store lately
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Wed Jun 27 1:27:26 2007.

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  Nizhal Nijamagiradhu: A wonderful movie from KB with portrayed different Human emotions.
  
  
  Sumitra- wonderfu display of the character which she played.. You should see her expressions when she really likes kamal but unable to accept it so she just scolds him
  
  Kamal - He had played this role humpty no of times but in this he had played with dignity. His subtle acting while teasing Sumitra with sarcastic comments are absolute treat to watch
  
  Shoba- A grand debut with a KB film .. Kuttupattalum modhira kaiyal kuttupatirukkirar
  
  Saratbabu - as ever reliable
  
  Anumandhu - Shoba's uncle.. Even after knowing that Shoba had been raped by S.babu, he'll show a caring expression
  
  sundaribai - as usual gossiping lady and she does that with ease in all the movies
  
  and MSV-KB-KD was the rocking combination of 70's and they proved it once again
  
  Kamban yemandhan - Kamal's on screen play, SPB's youthful voice, KD's lyrics makes it a class
  (Aathiram enbadhu pengalukkellam adupadi varai thaano
  oru aadhikka nayagan saadhikka vandhal adangudhal murai thane)
  
  Illakkanam maarudho ilakiyam aanadho by SPB & VJ is a brilliant number
  
  over all Nizhal nijamagiradhu is a classic from KB
  
  

• From: tvsankar on Wed Jun 27 1:54:56 2007.

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  Nalla story.Nallavan pol irupavan Nallavan illai.Kettavan pol irupavan kettavan illai. Ippadi Contrast aga anal Successful aga Kondu sella KB yal mattuame mudiyum....
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Jun 27 1:59:06 2007.

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  tvsankar wrote:

  Nalla story.Nallavan pol irupavan Nallavan illai.Kettavan pol irupavan kettavan illai. Ippadi Contrast aga anal Successful aga Kondu sella KB yal mattuame mudiyum....

  
  
  Ttrue ! Even Mouli'd role was very well executed.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jun 28 2:56:48 2007.

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  I have a small question. Hope some one can help me here .
  
  In this movie - KH's intro scene with Sumithra, where Sarath takes him into her dance room and KH walks in with his shoes and Sumithra would make an issue saying it's wrong to come in with 'seruppu kaal' to a holy place, like a dance room. Then later KH would tell Sarath,
  
  ennappA ithu seruppu pOttuttu vanthathukku antha NadaraajarE kOchukkala- Thillai Nadaraajar !
  
  What does this mean ?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Jun 28 3:03:22 2007.

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  Thillai Natarajar is a name of Lord Shiva. He is considered as God of Bharathanatiyam
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jun 28 3:06:10 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  Thillai Natarajar is a name of Lord Shiva. He is considered as God of Bharathanatiyam

  
  
  Athu enakku theriyum But seruppu kAlOda pOnathukku avar kOchukkala-nu sonnathukku - is there any incident in the purANam. Sounds like there is something- adhaan kEttEn .
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jun 28 3:07:04 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  Thillai Natarajar is a name of Lord Shiva. He is considered as God of Bharathanatiyam

  
  
  அது தெரியுது .ஆனால் செருப்பு போட்டு வந்தும் நடராஜர் கோபித்துக்கொள்ளவில்லை-ணு ஏதாவது புராணம் ,கதைகள் இருக்கா ?
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jun 28 3:09:41 2007.

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  what a coincidence
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Jun 28 3:14:56 2007.

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  oh Shriya Thread la athigam concentrate panna aarambichathilirunthu TM unakku oru mannum Puriya maataenguthu
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jun 28 3:16:48 2007.

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  Mokkaiya pOdAma bathila sollunga Thiru sir
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jun 28 3:37:22 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Mokkaiya pOdAma bathila sollunga Thiru sir

  
  
  I think here is some hint...
  
  :வேடராகிய கண்ணப்பரது பெருமையை உலகம் அறிய அவரது செருப்பு அணிந்து சிறந்த அடியும் வாயாகிய குடமும் மாமிசமாகிய உணவும் ஆகமப் பொருள் பற்றிச் செய்கின்ற பூசைகள் போல விளங்கும்படி விருப்பமாய் ஏற்று இறைவன் திருமேனி குளிர, அப்பொழுதே அவர் திருவருள் பெற்று நின்ற வரலாற்றைப் பாடி நாம் தோணோக்கம் ஆடுவோம்.
  
  http://www.thevaaram.org/08/81150.htm
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jun 28 3:43:19 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  தோணோக்கம் ஆடுவோம்.

  
  Joe,
  தோணோக்கம் - ?
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jun 28 3:53:52 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  joe wrote: தோணோக்கம் ஆடுவோம். Joe, தோணோக்கம் - ?

  
  
  In the same page ,it is mentioned..
  
  தோள் + நோக்கம் = தோணோக்கம். `தோளை நோக்குதல் (பார்த்தல்)' என்பது பொருள்.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jun 28 3:57:26 2007.

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  nandri Joe
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jun 28 3:58:51 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: joe wrote: தோணோக்கம் ஆடுவோம். Joe, தோணோக்கம் - ? In the same page ,it is mentioned.. தோள் + நோக்கம் = தோணோக்கம். `தோளை நோக்குதல் (பார்த்தல்)' என்பது பொருள்.

  
  
  Thanks
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jun 28 4:11:46 2007.

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  Thanks Joe
  
  In that link further explanation is given like this ;
  
  

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  கண்ணப்ப நாயனாரது அன்பின் சிறப்புக்கருதி அவரது பொருந்தாச் செயல்களை இறைவன் சிறந்த வேதாகம முறைப்படியே செய்கின்ற பூசைபோல ஏற்று மகிழ்ந்து அருள்புரிந்தான்' என, அன்பு ஒன்றையே விரும்பும் அவனது அருளின் பெருமையை வியந்தவாறு.

  
  
  இங்கே பொருந்தாச் செயல்களில் செருப்பு அணிந்து ( ஆலயத்துக்குள் ) சென்றதும் ஒன்று என நினைக்கிறேன்.
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Jun 28 4:23:33 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Thanks Joe In that link further explanation is given like this ; Quote: கண்ணப்ப நாயனாரது அன்பின் சிறப்புக்கருதி அவரது பொருந்தாச் செயல்களை இறைவன் சிறந்த வேதாகம முறைப்படியே செய்கின்ற பூசைபோல ஏற்று மகிழ்ந்து அருள்புரிந்தான்' என, அன்பு ஒன்றையே விரும்பும் அவனது அருளின் பெருமையை வியந்தவாறு. இங்கே பொருந்தாச் செயல்களில் செருப்பு அணிந்து ( ஆலயத்துக்குள் ) சென்றதும் ஒன்று என நினைக்கிறேன்.

  
  
  ஆமாம் .ஆனால் சிவனின் பல அவதாரங்கள் வேறு வேறு குணாதிசயங்கள் உடையவை ..'திருவிளையாடல்' திரைப்படத்தில் ..சிவனின் மாமனார் சிவனை 'வெட்டியான்' என்றும் 'இறந்தவர் உடல்களை எரித்து சாம்பலை எடுத்து உடம்பெல்லாம் பூசிக்கொள்ளும் பித்தன்' என்றும் கூறுவது நினைவுக்கு வருகிறது .
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Jun 30 5:14:54 2007.

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  Excellent posts Thilak, Kannan and Roshan.
  
  Haven't wathed it ina loooooong time. After reading I also feel I haven't watched well enough. DVD vEttai aarambam !
  

  thilak4life wrote:

  Mouli's character was typical KB. Razz

  
  Mouli walks up to Kamal and checks out the magazines on the table beseide him. Presumably they are some communist/literature magazines.
  "Vayasukku thagundha pushthakamE padikkAthe !"
  
  >>digr.
  

  Joe wrote:

  ஆனால் சிவனின் பல அவதாரங்கள் வேறு வேறு குணாதிசயங்கள் உடையவை ..'திருவிளையாடல்' திரைப்படத்தில் ..சிவனின் மாமனார் சிவனை 'வெட்டியான்' என்றும் 'இறந்தவர் உடல்களை எரித்து சாம்பலை எடுத்து உடம்பெல்லாம் பூசிக்கொள்ளும் பித்தன்' என்றும் கூறுவது நினைவுக்கு வருகிறது .

  One other line I remember from ThiruviLayAdal is a reference to Siva's avatar as PichANdEswarar, were he is seen begging with a skull bowl. It is a reference to this that makes his go over the top and burn Nakkeerar
  
  இறையனார்: சங்கை கீர் கீரென அரிந்துண்டு வாழும் கீரன், என பாட்டில் பிழை காண்பதா ?
  நக்கீரர்: சங்கருப்பது எமது குலம் சங்கரனார்க்கு ஏது குலம்.......சங்கை அரிந்துண்டு வாழ்வோம்... அரனே, உம் போல் இரந்துண்டு வாழ்வதில்லை
  
  <<end digr.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 12:30:24 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Excellent posts Thilak, Kannan and Roshan. Haven't wathed it ina loooooong time. After reading I also feel I haven't watched well enough. DVD vEttai aarambam ! thilak4life wrote: Mouli's character was typical KB. Razz Mouli walks up to Kamal and checks out the magazines on the table beseide him. Presumably they are some communist/literature magazines. "Vayasukku thagundha pushthakamE padikkAthe !"

  
  
  
  
  
  Another one - with Shoba's infant..
  
  yArudA unga appan ... ? nee ompAshaiyila sollu naan translate paNNikirEn. illEnnA naan solluREn nee thalaiya mattum aattu .. (he'd be so inquisitive and desperate to know the truth - typical gossip monger )
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Sat Jun 30 12:38:11 2007.

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  Good Movie. Good songs. Good charaters.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 13:26:08 2007.

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  all the goodness of the movie breaks when kamal accepts sumitra's indirect proposal, in the very end of the movie....several places where sanjeevi dislikes inthumathi
  
  1 - when she comes to his house searching for thilagam, and she expresses her suspection on sanjeevi - kamal becomes angry and says inthumathiyamma, neenga innum decent aa pesa kathukkanum
  
  
  2 - just before when chalam accepts the truth, sanjeevi says - ivlo pesareengale, neenga enna vazhukki vizhuntha ponukkellaam vakaalathaa??appadinna thilagathai veetai vittu veliye anuppiyirukka maateenga
  
  3 - when thilagam refuses to come back with them - ithu enakke athirchi thaan, aanaa inba athirchi[says later to thilagam] athigaaravarkathukku sariyaana saattayadi
  
  having said this, he still accepts her in the end - big flaw. his anger on chalam too shud be less, as he accepted his mistake in end. but inthumathi didnt accept her faults, neither did she come down. she only just proposed, and that is not an acceptance of her mistakes.....and i dont feel they will live happy, based on her character.....
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 13:33:36 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  all the goodness of the movie breaks when kamal accepts sumitra's indirect proposal, in the very end of the movie....several places where sanjeevi dislikes inthumathi 1 - when she comes to his house searching for thilagam, and she expresses her suspection on sanjeevi - kamal becomes angry and says inthumathiyamma, neenga innum decent aa pesa kathukkanum 2 - just before when chalam accepts the truth, sanjeevi says - ivlo pesareengale, neenga enna vazhukki vizhuntha ponukkellaam vakaalathaa??appadinna thilagathai veetai vittu veliye anuppiyirukka maateenga 3 - when thilagam refuses to come back with them - ithu enakke athirchi thaan, aanaa inba athirchi[says later to thilagam] athigaaravarkathukku sariyaana saattayadi having said this, he still accepts her in the end - big flaw. his anger on chalam too shud be less, as he accepted his mistake in end. but inthumathi didnt accept her faults, neither did she come down. she only just proposed, and that is not an acceptance of her mistakes.....and i dont feel they will live happy, based on her character.....

  
  
  Ahaaa.... idha Roshan answer pannuvanga.. As I haven't seen the movie for a long time! I never got that feeling when I watched the movie. That is, in spite of her 'behavior', I got the feeling that Kamal liked her 'hot-headed' chauvinistic attitude.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sat Jun 30 13:40:27 2007.

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  In today SPB's "Ennodu Pattu Paadungal" programme in Jeya TV, SPB remembered some nice incidents from his memory while recording the son "Ilakkanam Maarudho" song. He got appreciation from MSV ("Dei kanna, ennodu pattuku uyir koduthitta")
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 13:42:21 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  In today SPB's "Ennodu Pattu Paadungal" programme in Jeya TV, SPB remembered some nice incidents from his memory while recording the son "Ilakkanam Maarudho" song. He got appreciation from MSV ("Dei kanna, ennodu pattuku uyir koduthitta")

  
  
  ahaa... I forgot about this show. I saw it once, just when it ended. Will watch it for SPB (And other obvious reasons)
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 13:44:35 2007.

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  he could have liked her chauvinistic att, but he disliked her more in the above mentioned scenes....also watch, after the thilagam-pregnancy problem comes in, he doesnt speak with inthumathi, the normal fonded way, he used to speak.....so there comes an irk feeling when kamal accepts her in the final. Apart, its an nice movie, typical KB Classic.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 13:47:50 2007.

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  Sakala, those lines/scenes could have been 'sarcastic' than hate-felt. I don't think he 'hated' her at least 'completely'. Some guys like such girls with 'that attitude'. I don't think this is a 'flaw' as such!
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 13:50:59 2007.

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  tilak, refresh pannungo, avataar paarungo! naanum, Aandavarin smoke-snap pottutten, and that too from the same movie...
  
  this scene is when he comes to find his cigg lighter...
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 13:51:53 2007.

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  sakala. Super avatar.
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Jun 30 14:04:10 2007.

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  Kickass avatar sakala and Thilak
  
  That urges me to sport a smokin thala avatar
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 14:09:05 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  Kickass avatar sakala and Thilak That urges me to sport a smokin thala avatar

  
  
  Sure.
  
  How about putting up Aandavar's smoking avatar from last few years.
  
  we already have Sakala and CR's, both from late 70s - early 80s, mine is late 80s to early 90s. How about late 90s - early 00'. Waiting for it!
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 14:11:18 2007.

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  podurom, smoke avataar podurom, intha HUB be pugai mandalamaa maarura alavukku, podurom, appadiye mudinjaa, "aandavar kitta vachikaathedaa pagai, appuram aayiduve cigirette pugai, chumma oothithithalliruvaarulla" nnu punch adikkalaam
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 14:19:09 2007.

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  Sakala and Thilak,
  
  I felt from the beginning Sanjeevi (KH) started liking Inthumathi (sumithra) and Indumathi too started liking him.
  
  KH would say Chella - saNda pOttAthaan suvaarasyam, enakku ethirkkuravangaLa pidikkum, kaathadikkumpOthuthAn cigerette pathuvEn.. etc etc dialogues.. that shows that he is a guy who prefers that type of a woman and moreover he is potrayed as a "communist" and that add's more to the flavour.
  
  As for Sumithra - she too starts admiring him in many ways from the beginning. The moment Kamal complains about "kaaram" in food- she would request Thilagam to reduce "kaaram" and when questioned - "kaaram illennA ungaLukku pidikkAthE" - she would responde saying 'enna paNNuRathu .. ellAm en thalaiyezhuthu' - that was kind of a typical affection shown in an egoistic way.
  
  So both were on the same wave length but it changes slightly- after the Thilagam episode. However, even after that - I felt that her anger towards KH was mainly due to the feel of helplessness and that she is unable to get hold of the real culprit. But in a couple of scenes again it was shown that inside she knew KH wasnt at fault but the circumstances were such she had to react in such a way.
  
  But the ending was a bit abrupt I felt. After Thilagam refusing to accept Chalam, and after all those 'sAttaiyadi' dialogues by Thilagam, I expected that Indumadi would realise her mistakes at that point and appreciate Thilagam and give a lecture to her brother Chalam. Instead she frowns at KH and says "engaLa thittampOttu avamAnapaduthathAn inga koottittu vantheengaLaa?" and walks out with anger.
  
  Then the next (last) scene is - KH leaving the city and she proposes to him indirectly and he accepts. Thilagam veettil indhumathi than thavaRai uNaruvathupOl kaattiyirunthAl - would have been better I feel.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 14:21:50 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  podurom, smoke avataar podurom, intha HUB be pugai mandalamaa maarura alavukku, podurom, appadiye mudinjaa, "aandavar kitta vachikaathedaa pagai, appuram aayiduve cigirette pugai, chumma oothithithalliruvaarulla" nnu punch adikkalaam

  
  
  
  
  
  Sakala,
  vara vara - unga lollu athigamAgikittE pOguthu.. enna vishayam ?
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Jun 30 14:22:04 2007.

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  wow what a movie
  
  i watched this movie like 10 times
  
  kamal even though very small role was looking really cool and was very nice
  
  the actress good job
  
  the ending of the movie was the best
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 14:25:45 2007.

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  Wibha wrote:

  wow what a movie i watched this movie like 10 times kamal even though very small role was looking really cool and was very nice the actress good job the ending of the movie was the best

  
  
  Very small role-A
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 14:28:20 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  But in a couple of scenes again it was shown that inside she knew KH wasnt at fault but the circumstances were such she had to react in such a way.

  roshan, do u mean to say that sumitra knew that KH is NOT the person? but she expresses her suspect manytimes when kamal is not in the scene, she yells to kaasi and syays that house is not for him and he is just a kaaval naai. when she goes to see thilagam, to her hut, there too she enquires about the frequency of KH's visits, and gets irks to hear that he comes there every saturday.....
  
  

• From: Wibha on Sat Jun 30 14:29:08 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Wibha wrote: wow what a movie i watched this movie like 10 times kamal even though very small role was looking really cool and was very nice the actress good job the ending of the movie was the best Very small role-A

  
  
  i meant he doesn't come like whole movie...........
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Jun 30 14:31:13 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Sakala, vara vara - unga lollu athigamAgikittE pOguthu.. enna vishayam ?

  naan joliyaa irukken, thatsall, ithukkum ethukkum, entha samannthamum illai!!!!naan joke adichaa, anbavikkanum, [ethukkunnu] aaraayakoodathu
  
  [just for fun, u can always pukeback, for further fun ]
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jun 30 14:31:41 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Wibha wrote: wow what a movie i watched this movie like 10 times kamal even though very small role was looking really cool and was very nice the actress good job the ending of the movie was the best Very small role-A

  
  
  The film, although about Shoba, has given enough justice to Sumithra, Kamal and Sarath babu.
  
  Wonderful post Roshan. Padatha Thirumba pakalam-nu irukaen..
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 14:44:03 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  Roshan wrote: But in a couple of scenes again it was shown that inside she knew KH wasnt at fault but the circumstances were such she had to react in such a way. roshan, do u mean to say that sumitra knew that KH is NOT the person? but she expresses her suspect manytimes when kamal is not in the scene, she yells to kaasi and syays that house is not for him and he is just a kaaval naai. when she goes to see thilagam, to her hut, there too she enquires about the frequency of KH's visits, and gets irks to hear that he comes there every saturday.....

  
  
  I agree but at the same time - she accepts a letter from KH at the time he vacates. She'd initially throw it off but later she'd slowly take and read it as she expects somethign possitive there. In the letter KH would have mentioned that she will one day realise the truth and her expressions would be something like confused rather than - suspicious. The picture he sends along with the letter would be torn and disposed initially but later she collects the pieces and pastes it - that itself shows that she had the feeling that he wasnt at fault. But as I said her helplessness and frustration makes her react in such a way. And I felt it was quite natural.
  
  Regarding the other scene you have mentioned, again I feel her visit to Thilagam with PalagAram and all, is due to some possitive thoughts she had for KH and her inquiring about the frequencies of his visits were for her own purpose - rather than fault finding. Thilagam would say - 'ippO varra nEramthAn' and she responds saying 'appO nAn kElemburEn.. athu varra nEram naan irunthA - ethO adha pAkkathAn vanthEnnu sollum' - that again is a way of expressing her affection in an egoistic way. This is how I felt
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jun 30 14:51:48 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Sakala, vara vara - unga lollu athigamAgikittE pOguthu.. enna vishayam ? naan joliyaa irukken, thatsall, ithukkum ethukkum, entha samannthamum illai!!!!naan joke adichaa, anbavikkanum, [ethukkunnu] aaraayakoodathu

  
  
  idha nAnga nambanumA ? sari sari nambittA pOchu
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sun Jul 1 1:41:26 2007.

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  roshan, nizhal innum nijamaagavillai, if so, why wasting time with you[ just 4 fun, dnt mistak ] in this hub ?? i am waiting for the time to disappear fro here
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Jul 1 12:34:06 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  roshan, nizhal innum nijamaagavillai, if so, why wasting time with you[ just 4 fun, dnt mistak ] in this hub ?? i am waiting for the time to disappear fro here

  
  
  Sakala, viraivil nizhal nijamAga vAzhthukkaL ! But I bet - what so ever happens, you can never get rid of this place
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jul 2 10:43:15 2007.

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  http://www.geocities.com/bbreviews/noornaal.html
  
  NOORAAVADHU NAAL
  
  A movie review by Balaji Balasubramaniam
  
  Cast: Vijayakanth, Mohan, Nalini, Satyaraj, Y.Vijaya, 'Thenga' Srinivasan, Janakaraj, 'Kovai' Sarala
  Music: Ilaiyaraja
  Direction: Manivannan
  
  Nooraavadhu Naal created loads of controversies when it was released. Jayaprakash, who killed eight people, claimed that he had indulged in the heinous act after seeing the movie. 'Auto' Shankar, the dreaded criminal who hid the bodies of young girls he killed behind walls, claimed that he had got his inspiration from the movie. These controversies fuelled interest in the movie and it went on to become a box-office success. But the controversies should not take attention away from one basic fact: the movie is a very well-made crime thriller. A screenplay without too many holes, genuine suspense that is built up skilfully and some scary moments make this an accomplished addition to a genre in which tamil cinema has very few worthwhile entries.
  
  
  This was also the movie that first placed Satyaraj in the public eyes. He had been around for long, appearing in marginal roles in movies like Naan Sigappu Manidhan. With a bald head and round, rimmed glasses, he created a truly menacing and memorable image in this movie though he appears in that mode for only a couple of scenes. It was only after this movie that he grew into a villain of note with movies like 24 Mani Neram and Kaakki Sattai before making the transition into anti-hero and finally leading man.
  
  Devi(Nalini) dreams that her sister is being murdered by a figure clad in a black raincoat. Her friend pooh-poohs it as a nightmare caused by her reading one too many horror novels. But within minutes, we see her sister being murdered in exactly the same fashion, one difference being that the murder is being videotaped by another woman. The killer hides the body inside a wall in what seems to be an abandoned house. Devi never knows of the murder and as far as she is concerned, her sister has disappeared.
  
  Five years have passed when we see Devi again. A millionaire Ramkumar(Mohan) falls for her and pursues her. Ramkumar has been fighting for possession of a mansion for six years now and turns out that this is the mansion in which the killer has hidden the body of Devi's sister. Ramkumar finally gains possession of it on the day of his marriage. Devi now has visions of another murder. This time, its a woman who is being murdered by a bald man. When she discovers the skeleton, which she thinks is of her sister, she realises that her visions do come true and wants to stop the murder of the woman. Looking for clues, she and her cousin Raju(Vijayakanth), a doctor who had been in love with her sister, start at the museum where her sister worked. Here they run into Jagannathan(Satyaraj) and Parvati(Y.Vijaya) and she is convinced that Parvati is the woman who is going to be murdered.
  
  The suspense about the real killer is maintained well. This inspite of the fact that there are not many characters populating the movie. A typical whodunnit introduces a whole host of characters and throws enough red herrings to shift suspicion to someone other than the killer. By concentrating on the second murder and Nalini's attempts to stop it, Manivannan manages to put the issue of the first murder on the backburner before cleverly linking it to the second murder. So we end up focussing on Nalini's troubles rather than sifting through the clues to try and guess who the killer is. So the identity of the killer is a complete surprise.
  
  The movie also contains its share of scary moments. The moment when Nalini unearths the skeleton is naturally the most effective one. The buildup here is very effective with Nalini's performance and Ilaiyaraja's background score heightening the effect. The way the suspense is built up is commendable. The ploy of showing a series of images as part of Nalini's vision and then having her run into each of them in order works well to keep us intrigued. The way the magazine cover showing the horses is handled is especially well done. Satyaraj's chase of Nalini in the church is also picturised well.
  
  Mohan and Vijayakanth breeze through their roles with Mohan impressive in the climax. The romance between him and Nalini has some funny moments. Though cinematic and a little dragging, the portions achieve the objective of establishing the crucial link between Nalini and the house without making the viewer fall asleep. Nalini conveys the fear well when she sees her visions. Ilaiyaraja's Vizhiyile Mani Vizhiyile... is a very melodious number during the first half of the movie.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jul 2 10:45:07 2007.

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  Thanks for sharing your information on Nizhal NIjamaagirathu
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  Reg Nooraavathu naaL, I thought that Auto Shankar case came much before the release of the movie. Quite surprised to hear that he got inspiration from this movie
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jul 2 12:32:07 2007.

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  Nooravathu naaL is a GOOD MOVIE
  
  

• From: sakthivel_cool on Mon Jul 2 12:33:04 2007.

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  i guessed dat mohan wud b da killer much b4 da film ended..
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Mon Jul 2 12:33:45 2007.

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  Thats probably because, MEDIA had let out the suspense
  
  

• From: sakthivel_cool on Mon Jul 2 12:36:39 2007.

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  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Thats probably because, MEDIA had let out the suspense

  
  
  no i saw dis wen i ws a kid...
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jul 2 12:40:30 2007.

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  Thalaivar nadippil oru tucker thriller
  
  Mohan as an anti hero it should be acceptable bcoz we can't make vijaykanth as anti-hero
  
  Ilayaraaja...... waht to say...... as usual
  
  manivannan - one of the very few good thriller/action directors in tamil
  
  I suppose sathyaraj is the one who had the biggest benifit from this movie
  
  

• From: sriranga on Tue Jul 3 4:21:46 2007.

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  i watched this movie when i was a kid. two things that haunted me for days after i watched the movie:
  
  1. nalini taking the skeleton of her sis from the wall and the "urugude idayame" song.
  
  2. satyaraj mottai getup and the church scene.
  
  overall, a good movie.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 3 4:40:35 2007.

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  I guessed it was Mohan. Because the size of his hands (with golden wrist watch), didn't look like Satyaraj's! And neither was it Vijaykanth. So, the best twist has to be 'Mohan'.
  
  Forget that 'twist', the approach makes it a good thriller. Anda madiri oru 'decent' suspense filled script ippo yenga varudu
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jul 9 11:42:45 2007.

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  Poo Vizhi VaasalilE
  
  Cast :
  SatyaRaj
  Raghuvaran
  Antony
  
  
  
  Director : Fazil - Right ?
  Music - IlayaRaja
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Jul 9 12:30:56 2007.

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  Poo Vizhi, superb film by faazil, the BGM, songs, satyaraj's nakkal\casual acting ect....very nice film.
  
  The scene where raguvaran;s adiyaal tries to kidnap the baby, when satyaraj is sleeping....
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Jul 9 12:33:41 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Forget that 'twist', the approach makes it a good thriller. Anda madiri oru 'decent' suspense filled script ippo yenga varudu

  tilak, add the current movie too in the list[poo vizhi vasalile] in recent times, i thing 'Whistle' is pretty decent approach. and yes, nowadays very less or no movies like those....Ram had some amount of suspense....
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Jul 9 12:46:38 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Poo Vizhi VaasalilE Cast : SatyaRaj Raghuvaran Antony Director : Fazil - Right ? Music - IlayaRaja

  
  
  Selva you missed the main character that baby.She is "Baby" Sujitha, infact she is no more baby.She got married last year to a Malayalam film director.She acted in many tamizh tv serials.
  
  When we talk about songs immediately "Chinna Chinna Roja Poove Chella kanne nee yaaru?" comes to my mind.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Jul 9 12:51:30 2007.

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  Other good scenes
  
  * The way Sujitha describes the killers to sathyaraj was terrific
  
  * Climax
  
  * Scenes in which how Sujitha and the heroine escapes from those villans.
  
  ... perfect thriller,great direction by Fazil!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 13:03:24 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Poo Vizhi VaasalilE Cast : SatyaRaj Raghuvaran Antony Director : Fazil - Right ? Music - IlayaRaja Selva you missed the main character that baby.She is "Baby" Sujitha, infact she is no more baby.She got married last year to a Malayalam film director.She acted in many tamizh tv serials. When we talk about songs immediately "Chinna Chinna Roja Poove Chella kanne nee yaaru?" comes to my mind.

  
  
  Yeah Baby Sujitha's role was the lead role. One of the best child performance and she played a 'littly boy' role in this movie. The heroine was Karthiga who also acted as Kamal's daughter in Nayagan.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Jul 9 13:07:01 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Poo Vizhi VaasalilE Cast : SatyaRaj Raghuvaran Antony Director : Fazil - Right ? Music - IlayaRaja

  
  
  
  Fazil is one of the unspoken greats from both Mallu and thamizh films. He makes good thrillers.
  
  He's the one who gave Satyaraj, good character roles in films like PVV and EBA.
  
  The main plus is the chemistry between the kid and Satyaraj - And Maestro's work from BGM to the song "Chinna Chinna Roja Poove". Let's not forget the memorable piece, especially when Satyaraj finds the kid to be deaf. Thats maestro for you he also composes some eerie notes which was in herrmann's vein! The BGM is an important tool and used effectively by Fazil (as he always does)!
  
  Yes Sakala, this film is definitely a good example for the current gen. filmmakers to feel ashamed of themselves. Would they ever give such quality thrillers?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 13:15:32 2007.

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  I have seen this movie more than 5 times I guess. One of the finest movies of Fazil - a perfect crime story with subtle and underplayed performances by all casts- including the main Villains - Raghuvaran and Antony. The movie carries one of the best titles.
  
  Movie had memorable performances by Sathyaraj as a hero and Raghuvaran as a Villain. And as said earlier, Sujitha was excellent.
  
  IR's BGM and tunes were Oru kiLiyim thanimaiyilE and Chinna chinna rOjApoovE ...
  
  Climax was terrific. The reaction of Sujitha the moment she sees Antony for the first time - after she joins Sathyaraj and the way she tries to explain Sathyaraj the murder was
  
  A very good movie all and all with an excellent screen play
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Mon Jul 9 13:20:01 2007.

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  Guys here are forgetting a good song(Paatingae) by Malaysia Vasudevan from this movie ...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 13:22:55 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Fazil is one of the unspoken greats from both Mallu and thamizh films. He makes good thrillers.

  
  
  Happy to see some one who holds the same view as mine. Fazil is definitely in my top 10 best directors list
  
  
  

  Quote:

  He's the one who gave Satyaraj, good character roles in films like PVV and EBA.

  
  
  EBA again is worth a discussion. I'm sure it's there in Selva's list
  
  
  

  Quote:

  The main plus is the chemistry between the kid and Satyaraj - And Maestro's work from BGM to the song "Chinna Chinna Roja Poove". Let's not forget the memorable piece, especially when Satyaraj finds the kid to be deaf. Thats maestro for you

  
  
  The climax BGM was also terrific
  
  
  

  Quote:

  The BGM is an important tool and used effectively by Fazil (as he always does)!

  
  
  And he never makes compromises on that
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Yes Sakala, this film is definitely a good example for the current gen. filmmakers to feel ashamed of themselves. Would they ever give such quality thrillers?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jul 9 13:35:24 2007.

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  Definitely one of my favourite Satyaraj movies. Great acting- especially when he recalls his wife's suicide. And Raghuvaran proves why he is one of our finest villains. Well underplayed
  
  Just wondering - is there a Malayalam original? If yes, has Fazil ever made a direct Tamil movie?
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Jul 9 13:40:35 2007.

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  kannan, when he recalls, the BGm too is apt for that scene, Raja the Reference for How to compose BGM
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jul 9 13:46:06 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  kannan, when he recalls, the BGm too is apt for that scene, Raja the Reference for How to compose BGM

  
  Sakal, absolutely true. Even if the movie had been made without songs, the BGM would have made his presence felt - that is IR
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 13:50:06 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: kannan, when he recalls, the BGm too is apt for that scene, Raja the Reference for How to compose BGM Sakal, absolutely true. Even if the movie had been made without songs, the BGM would have made his presence felt - that is IR

  
  
  Kannan and Sakala,
  
  Fazil - IR combo BGMs have always been great
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Jul 9 13:53:09 2007.

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  varusham 16 \ Poo Vizhi \ Kaathalukku mariyathai \ Kannukkul Nilavu \ Kilipetchu Ketkavaa yes...i still listen to Kannukkul Nilavu songs daily....
  
  Iravu pagalai theda\Orunaal Orukanavu
  
  soothing melody with great rendition by Jesudas - he is a regular in Fhazil-IR combo!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 14:08:00 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  varusham 16 \ Poo Vizhi \ Kaathalukku mariyathai \ Kannukkul Nilavu \ Kilipetchu Ketkavaa

  
  
  Also PoovE poochuda vaa ( Fazil's debut movie in Thamizh), En Bommukutty Ammavukku, Karpoora Mullai and ArangetRa vElai.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Mon Jul 9 14:11:07 2007.

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  <dig>
  yes i cried when i was listening "Kannae Navamaniyae" song of en pommukutti ammavukku
  <end dig>
  
  A neat suspense thriller by Fazil and one of best from Satyaraj. Raja always rocks for thriller movies. Mano was introduced as a playback singer
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jul 9 14:18:46 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  Mano was introduced as a playback singer

  
  Hmm.. wasn't it 'Solla Thudikkuthu Manasu' (Thenmozhi..)?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 9 14:26:05 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: Mano was introduced as a playback singer Hmm.. wasn't it 'Solla Thudikkuthu Manasu' (Thenmozhi..)?

  
  
  No Kannan. Sanjeevi is right. 'AnnE Anne' in 'poo vizhi vaasalilE' was Mano's debut song
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jul 9 15:37:38 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  No Kannan. Sanjeevi is right. 'AnnE Anne' in 'poo vizhi vaasalilE' was Mano's debut song

  
  Oh, thanks Roshan . Must have heard it wrong .
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Mon Jul 9 22:30:10 2007.

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  pullaye eppadi konjuveenga...... sakarakatti sundaralingam ...
  
  Sathyaraj's awesome performance in this movie is the catch..... The wonderful Poovizhi Vaasalile.......
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 10 0:53:56 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Just wondering - is there a Malayalam original?

  
  
  Yes. Forgot the name
  
  And, No. I don't think Fazil made a straight tamil film. Maybe Poove poo choodava.
  
  Surprised to find that Arangetra velai is a remake from a non-Fazil movie!
  
  Roshan,
  
  Yep. IR- Fazil BGMs are effective, almost always
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jul 10 0:59:15 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  And, No. I don't think Fazil made a straight tamil film. Maybe Poove poo choodava.

  
  
  If I remember correct, that too had his Malayalam original.
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Surprised to find that Arangetra velai is a remake from a non-Fazil movie!

  
  
  Konjam detail-A solla mudiyumA?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 10 1:01:43 2007.

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  Roshan,
  
  AV is directed by Fazil. I thought the original Mallu version from which it was remade, would have been Fazil's. But it's not!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jul 10 1:07:49 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Roshan, AV is directed by Fazil. I thought the original Mallu version from which it was remade, would have been Fazil's. But it's not!

  
  
  Oh! athuvum Mallu version thAnA. Thanks for the info
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jul 10 1:20:42 2007.

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  A very effective thriller at that age (when it was released)
  
  Bharathiya Beethoven, Madurai Mozart, Isai Eesan IR
  
  The prelude to "Ori Kiliyin Thanimayile"
  The BGM's - The 'ghost' dance, thriller scenes, climaz etc....
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Jul 10 2:55:04 2007.

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  Poovizhi Vaasalile is my favorite Sathyaraj film and Fazil's too. Told in a simple way with very few characters but in a effective way. I think there is no flashback for Sathyaraj in the film (one of the good things abt the film).
  
  <dig>
  
  Roshan,
  
  Arangettra Velai is a remake of "Ramoji Rao speaking". It is directed by Lal-Siddique duo.
  
  Poove Poochudava is a remake of "Nokkathaa Dhoorathu Kannum Nattu". Padmini and Nadiya acted in the original too and SV Shekar's role was done by, surprise, Mohanlal
  
  <end dig>
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Tue Jul 10 2:56:37 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  A very effective thriller at that age (when it was released) Bharathiya Beethoven, Madurai Mozart, Isai Eesan IR The prelude to "Ori Kiliyin Thanimayile" The BGM's - The 'ghost' dance, thriller scenes, climaz etc....

  
  
  There is a haunting theme for Babu Antony i guess...Om..Om.Hari Om.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jul 10 3:05:46 2007.

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  ajaybaskar wrote:

  There is a haunting theme for Babu Antony i guess...Om..Om.Hari Om.

  
  Yes, i think that is the same theme for the saamiyars dancing also...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jul 10 3:06:56 2007.

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  Thanks LM for the details
  
  

• From: rami on Tue Jul 10 3:44:31 2007.

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  Poo vizhi Vaasalile ... easilt one of the best films of Sathyaraj ...
  
  The song "Chinna chinna roja poove " is a classic .. a blend of sorrow of the two souls and the affection between them ..
  
  The movie on the whole was a different and a memorable one.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jul 10 4:16:45 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: There is a haunting theme for Babu Antony i guess...Om..Om.Hari Om. Yes, i think that is the same theme for the saamiyars dancing also...

  
  
  terrific
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jul 10 4:44:25 2007.

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  enna karanathinalo enakku indha padam pidikkavillai.....
  
  oru malayala padam partha unarvai tharum......
  
  katchigalil malayala vaadai irukkum....
  
  same for "en bommukutty ammavukku"
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 10 4:47:08 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  enna karanathinalo enakku indha padam pidikkavillai..... oru malayala padam partha unarvai tharum...... katchigalil malayala vaadai irukkum.... same for "en bommukutty ammavukku"

  
  
  So, you don't like mallu movies at all?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jul 10 4:55:18 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: enna karanathinalo enakku indha padam pidikkavillai..... oru malayala padam partha unarvai tharum...... katchigalil malayala vaadai irukkum.... same for "en bommukutty ammavukku" So, you don't like mallu movies at all?

  
  
  not like that.....
  
  when they remake it.... i should feel it as a tamil film.....
  
  for eg:
  Kadhanayagan by pandiyarajan & s v sekar going to dubai
  
  Anna Nagar mudhal theru.... sathyaraj
  
  Illam........ sivakumar - amala
  
  Arangetra velai ...... prabhu - amala
  
  i enjoyed seeing all the above films....
  
  but somehow i dont like the poovizhi vasalile & en bommukutty ammavukku
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 10 7:11:03 2007.

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  normally fazil films have that "mallu" flavour.
  
  It was also there in arangetra velai, albeit a little less.
  
  Poovizhi (as well as the mallu orginal) was "inspired" by tthe film "Witness".
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Jul 10 7:13:14 2007.

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  smith1 wrote:

  normally fazil films have that "mallu" flavour.

  
  
  That makes the movie different and thats the main reason why I like Fazil movies
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Thu Jul 12 10:24:37 2007.

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  Dear Kannan,
  
  The Malayalam original of Poovizhi was " Poovinu Puthiya Poothennal " (meaning new breeze to the flower). Though Sathyaraj had done it well, in the original Mammootty would have simply excelled. This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit. Another interesting info is another movie of Mammootty among the other 4 which became another super hit was "Aaavanazhi" which was remade into Tamil as Kadamai Kanniyam Kattuppadu ( Produced by Kamal with S.Raj in the lead).
  
  Fazil made 3 movies in Tamil which were not remakes.They are
  
  Kili Pechu Ketka Vaa
  
  Kannukul Nilavu
  
  Oru Naal Oru Kanavu
  
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 12 10:32:56 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear Kannan, The Malayalam original of Poovizhi was " Poovinu Puthiya Poothennal " (meaning new breeze to the flower). Though Sathyaraj had done it well, in the original Mammootty would have simply excelled. This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit. Another interesting info is another movie of Mammootty among the other 4 which became another super hit was "Aaavanazhi" which was remade into Tamil as Kadamai Kanniyam Kattuppadu ( Produced by Kamal with S.Raj in the lead). Fazil made 3 movies in Tamil which were not remakes.They are Kili Pechu Ketka Vaa Kannukul Nilavu Oru Naal Oru Kanavu Regards

  
  
  Thanks
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 12 13:08:59 2007.

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  so his originals didnt fare ??? what about varusham 16
  Manichitrathaaz story was brought from some one rite?
  
  but i like his way of story telling, very light, slight humour, natural chars, arrogant love's, ect....all movies are nice, somehow he shown good areity too
  
  

• From: kannannn on Thu Jul 12 13:15:00 2007.

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  Dear Murali Srinivas, thanks a lot for the info . You truely are a treasure trove .
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 13:52:44 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear Kannan, The Malayalam original of Poovizhi was " Poovinu Puthiya Poothennal " (meaning new breeze to the flower). Though Sathyaraj had done it well, in the original Mammootty would have simply excelled. This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit. Another interesting info is another movie of Mammootty among the other 4 which became another super hit was "Aaavanazhi" which was remade into Tamil as Kadamai Kanniyam Kattuppadu ( Produced by Kamal with S.Raj in the lead). Fazil made 3 movies in Tamil which were not remakes.They are Kili Pechu Ketka Vaa Kannukul Nilavu Oru Naal Oru Kanavu Regards

  
  
  Thanks for this info Mr Srinivas
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 12 14:11:29 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit.

  
  

  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Fazil made 3 movies in Tamil which were not remakes.They are Kili Pechu Ketka Vaa...

  Sure about this one ? I vaguely remember a Fazil interview before KannukkuL nilavu, where he sounded a little apprehensive as it was first direct effort in Tamil.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 0:11:42 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Murali Srinivas wrote: This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit.

  
  
  Really Mammootty is a super star
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jul 13 2:40:56 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Murali Srinivas wrote: This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit. Really Mammootty is a super star

  
  
  Out of curiosity i thought of checking how many movies he done totally in 1986.
  
  It is 35 as per imdb And for several other calendar year it is more than 25
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 2:45:28 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  Out of curiosity i thought of checking how many movies he done totally in 1986. It is 35 as per imdb And for several other calendar year it is more than 25

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jul 13 2:50:46 2007.

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  BTW were all those movies was he acted in a main role
  
  Probably Murali Srinivas Sir can help
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jul 13 3:04:34 2007.

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  I checked for the same year for Mohanlal. He acted in 34
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 3:17:40 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  I checked for the same year for Mohanlal. He acted in 34

  
  
  Lal and Mammootty together 69 movies in that year Mega serial range-la irukku. Audience confuse aaga mAttaangaLaa?
  
  BTW, totally how many movies both have acted so far?
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Jul 13 3:19:45 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: I checked for the same year for Mohanlal. He acted in 34 Lal and Mammootty together 69 movies in that year Mega serial range-la irukku. Audience confuse aaga mAttaangaLaa? BTW, totally how many movies both have acted so far?

  
  
  malayalathula oru vaarathula oru veetukkulla vachu padaththa eduthu mudichidalam.. Still it will be worth to watch because of script.
  
  Thatis how Pre nasir went on to do more than 400 movies as hero
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 4:38:58 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: I checked for the same year for Mohanlal. He acted in 34 Lal and Mammootty together 69 movies in that year Mega serial range-la irukku. Audience confuse aaga mAttaangaLaa? BTW, totally how many movies both have acted so far? malayalathula oru vaarathula oru veetukkulla vachu padaththa eduthu mudichidalam.. Still it will be worth to watch because of script. Thatis how Pre nasir went on to do more than 400 movies as hero

  
  
  like doordarshan nadagam
  
  but still adha ellam remake adichu hit kudutha namma makkal neraya per irukkanga
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri Jul 13 5:45:57 2007.

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  Thanks Everybody. Now coming to querries,
  
  Sakala: The original of Varusham 16 was " Ennenum Kannettante" (forever with Kannan or she belongs to Kannan forever) which had new faces in the lead and it bombed at the BO.
  
  Manichitrathaz was written by Madhu Mattom, a novelist who had now taken the issue to the legal forum regarding the story rights.
  
  PR: K P K Vaa was a straight movie and was not a remake.
  
  Thiru:As you had pointed out till 86-87, both M's did a large no of movies in a calender year but later they slowed down and the numbers steadily came down in the late 80's and 90's and the trend continued till 2003. From 2004 onwards each is doing 6/7 films a year. 85- 86 was also the period when Lal was becoming a full fledged hero from villian/ second hero stage. For Mammootty all the movies were as heroes
  
  Roshan: Mammootty would have done around 325 movies whereas Lal would be in the region of 270.
  
  Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Jul 13 5:58:47 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 6:42:20 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Murali Srinivas wrote: Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies.

  
  
  evaru enna malayala manorama'va
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jul 13 6:43:42 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Murali Srinivas wrote: Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies.

  
  
  I think he holds guiness record for maximum number of movies among Male
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Jul 13 6:44:34 2007.

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  Thiru anne & RR,
  I know that he has that record. But never thought that it is 600 to 700
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri Jul 13 7:09:49 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Murali Srinivas wrote: Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies. evaru enna malayala manorama'va

  
  
  Dear R_R,
  
  I am not Malayala Manorama. Sangam Vaithu Tamizh valartha Suthamana Madurai Tamizhan. I worked in Kerala for a quiet no of years and I was very much attracted by Malayalam movies and my fascination took me to these info.
  
  The period of finishing a movie in 10 days at a shoe string budget have all gone. There also a film starring either one of the M's costs somewhere between 2.5 to 3 C and they take 40 - 50 days to complete. The advantage is they complete the entire film including Post Production in 90 days and release it. Again contrary to belief, the salaries of these two are not minimal. Both of them draw around 1C and they also take overseas right which fetches them good amount.
  
  Thiru & Selva,
  
  When I recently went thro' a film magazine (Malayalam), I was surprised to see that Nazir had in fact acted in 30 plus odd Tamil movies during his entire career.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 7:14:58 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: selvakumar wrote: Murali Srinivas wrote: Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies. evaru enna malayala manorama'va Dear R_R, I am not Malayala Manorama.

  
  
  
  
  naa ungalai sollavillai .... mannikkavum... i should hav given as:
  
  Prem Nazir enna malayala manorama'va
  
  
  
  i was referring to prem nazir
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Jul 13 7:15:15 2007.

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  Murali Sir,
  
  You've got R_R wrong. He wonders whether Premnazir is Malayalam equivalent of our Manorama Aachi (Number of movies acted).
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 7:17:47 2007.

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  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Murali Sir, You've got R_R wrong. He wonders whether Premnazir is Malayalam equivalent of our Manorama Aachi (Number of movies acted).

  
  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri Jul 13 7:25:43 2007.

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  Dear R_R,
  
  Sorry. Now I get it. Naan dhan konjam avasarapattuvitten.
  
  LM,
  
  Thanks. Seeing yours and R_R's post together, I got it.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 7:30:15 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Murali Srinivas wrote: Joe: It is not 400, Nazir did in between 600 -700 movies. evaru enna malayala manorama'va

  
  
  Good one
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jul 13 7:30:30 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear R_R, Sorry. Now I get it. Naan dhan konjam avasarapattuvitten. LM, Thanks. Seeing yours and R_R's post together, I got it. Regards

  
  
  its ok..... we had a chance to read about u
  
  

• From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 7:34:17 2007.

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  And Mr.Srinivas,
  
  Thanks again for all those information
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Jul 13 9:14:17 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  When I recently went thro' a film magazine (Malayalam), I was surprised to see that Nazir had in fact acted in 30 plus odd Tamil movies during his entire career.

  
  
  So, net sum will be 630 to 730 ! Ippo oru padathukku 3 months endru vachukittaalum
  
  

• From: madhu on Fri Jul 13 21:30:41 2007.

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  muraliji..
  
  is there any remake of Fazil's "kaiyethum dhoorathE" in tamil ?
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sat Jul 14 4:22:22 2007.

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  Dear Madhu,
  
  Kaiyethum dhoorathu was not remade into Tamil. Fazil launched his son in this movie as a hero along with the another new face Nikhitha (who came in Tamil also later opposite Sibiraj). In spite of a cameo role by Mammootty, this movie released during 2002 Onam was a flop. Fazil's son never came back. Even Fazil after this had two disasters.One in Malayalam - "Vismayathumbathu" starring M.Lal and Nayanthara and the Tamil Oru Naal Oru Kanavu. Hit badly, Fazil is now banking on the date given by Mammootty and is busy scripting the screenplay.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sat Jul 14 4:24:20 2007.

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  Roshan,
  
  Are you really saying thanks or is it a Kindal? (I am asking because the emoticon you used in both Thanks messages)
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sat Jul 14 4:54:45 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Roshan, Are you really saying thanks or is it a Kindal? (I am asking because the emoticon you used in both Thanks messages) Regards

  
  
  AyyayyO enna idhu ? Both messages have 'smile' emotion. Smile emotion eppadi kiNdal aaga mudiyum
  
  I prefer saying 'Thanks' with a smile always - just to let the other person know that it is truly meant from the heart. ChummA mottaiyA - entha emotion-um illAma 'Thanks' sonnA nallA irukkAthu. EthO oru kadamaikkAga solvathupOl irukkum. Thats why. But you are the first person ever to have misunderstood this
  
  PS: Naan ungaLai Mr.Srinivas enRu azhaippathum oru mariyAthaiyil thAn.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sat Jul 14 5:24:38 2007.

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  Sorry Roshan if I had hurt your feelings. I understand the reason behind the usage of emoticon. As a person who normally doesn't use any emoticons (I have a contrary opinion on usage of the emoticons. I personally feel that your words should convey your feelings rather than depending upon some external help) may be I didn't realise what it means to you. Sorry again.
  
  Even addressing me Murali is ok because Srinivas doesn't form a part of my name officially. It is my grand father's name which I joined with mine to get a login name here in this hub as Murali had been already taken.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: madhu on Sat Jul 14 7:35:58 2007.

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  muraliji..
  
  thanks for the information !
  
  

• From: Padmanabhan on Sat Jul 14 12:48:35 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear Kannan, The Malayalam original of Poovizhi was " Poovinu Puthiya Poothennal " (meaning new breeze to the flower). Though Sathyaraj had done it well, in the original Mammootty would have simply excelled. This movie was one among the 5 releases of Mammootty himself during Onam 1986 and still it went on to become a Super Hit. Another interesting info is another movie of Mammootty among the other 4 which became another super hit was "Aaavanazhi" which was remade into Tamil as Kadamai Kanniyam Kattuppadu ( Produced by Kamal with S.Raj in the lead). Fazil made 3 movies in Tamil which were not remakes.They are Kili Pechu Ketka Vaa Kannukul Nilavu Oru Naal Oru Kanavu Regards

  
  
  
  
  Murali sir.
  For your kind information, "poovinu puthiya poonthenal" was a big flop in malayalam.But, since the premise was so different from the usual stuff, fazil decided to take a chance and remake it in tamil, which proved to be fruitful.
  
  

• From: Padmanabhan on Sat Jul 14 13:11:08 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: I checked for the same year for Mohanlal. He acted in 34 Lal and Mammootty together 69 movies in that year Mega serial range-la irukku. Audience confuse aaga mAttaangaLaa? BTW, totally how many movies both have acted so far?

  
  
  
  Eighties and the early nineties were the golden era of Malayalam cinema when the market was quality driven. Like murali sir said, mohanlal’s early days was mainly into doing villainy and side roles, but soon got elevated to superstar status due to his immense talent and versatility. He could do any roles/genre with ease and flair. Mammooty ‘s look and charm made him a star faster than lal. Mammooty has him own comfort zone as far as roles are considered, like ultra serious ones ,in which he is definitely the best. During eighties most Malayalam films in all genres including action, was shot in 25-30 days .but, that did not make a dent in quality one bit.Both M`s used to go to 3-4 different film sets a day, for donning different roles and yet they did it fresh and different from one another. that is the reason both M’s are still rooling the roost over there and finding a replacement for them is an extremely uphill task.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Mon Jul 16 2:57:16 2007.

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  Dear Padmanabhan,
  
  I am sorry to disagree with you but PPP was definitely a hit movie. I am not sure whether it is Trivandrum or Calicut, but it ran for 100 days. I don't know whether you are aware of one magazine "Velli Nakshathiram" run by Kerala Kamudi group which used to serialise "Hitukalude Kadha" and there also this film is documented
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: Padmanabhan on Mon Jul 16 9:13:27 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear Padmanabhan, I am sorry to disagree with you but PPP was definitely a hit movie. I am not sure whether it is Trivandrum or Calicut, but it ran for 100 days. I don't know whether you are aware of one magazine "Velli Nakshathiram" run by Kerala Kamudi group which used to serialise "Hitukalude Kadha" and there also this film is documented Regards

  
  
  
  Sir,
  
  Being a native of palakkad, I am very much accustomed in reading almost all Malayalam film magazines like nana,rashtradeepika,vellinakshatram,chitrabhoomi etc.
  May be your are right, they would have written PPP as a hit in “hittukalude katha”,which I am unaware of.
  I said it's a flop because about 2-3 years back in a T.V interview fazil himself had said that, it was a flop..the interviewer had asked fazil ,the reason for daringly remaking some of his own films which failed in Malayalam into tamil, which normally no one does.. For that- fazil answered , if he gets a staunch belief in a particular story ,he will remake it after making necessary corrections and modifications to it . He said, inspite of the badshowing of “poovinu puthiya poonthenal” and “ennenum kannetante” , they were remade as “poovizhi vaasalile” and”varsham pathinaaru” in tamil , because he believed if properly executed with precision ,they could work.
  You must be knowing pretty well the high standards of Malayalam cinema in the eighties,when there was a barrage of good films one after another, some of them flopped, inspite of having great content . I believed PPP was one such film.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jul 16 9:24:38 2007.

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  16 Vayathinile
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Vayathinile
  
  16 Vayathinile (also known as Pathinaru Vayathinile) (At the Age of Sixteen) (1977) is a Tamil feature film directed by Bharathiraja.The film stars Kamal Hassan, Sridevi and Rajinikanth. The film's score and soundtrack are composed by Ilaiyaraaja. The film marked Bharathiraja's debut as a film maker/screenwriter and it met with a strong critical reception upon release.
  
  This film involves a young, beautiful 16-year-old girl, Mayil (Sridevi), filled with ambitions of becoming a teacher. She is an attractive, intelligent woman living in the small society and experiences ripe love when sees the new vet who has come to visit. Many are impressed by this charming young fellow who has entered the vilage. He seems to be a wealthy, prosperous man and soon develops a relationship with Mayil. Mayil, who is deep in love, sacrifices her opportunity to study in the teaching college course to spend time with him. Little does she know, that he has not yet revealed his true colours.
  
  Sri Devi's distant cousin Chapani (Kamal Hasaan) is quite dim, possibly a little mentally ill, and because he is lame, he is taken advantage of and isolated by the society. He is secretly in love with Mayil, and when he sees her in love with the vet, he is jealous and upset. Another important character is the big rowdy (Rajinikanth) who is also impressed by Mayil. Mayil is impacted by all these men in her life.
  
  The theme of this emotive story is to show how vulnerable women are at the age of sweet sixteen, the age of love. This story conveys strong themes and depicts an issue faced by many young women in same situation as Mayil, all over the world...
  
  The film has won the following awards since its release:
  
  * 1978 National Film Awards (India)
  * Silver Lotus Award - Best Playback Singer (Female) - S. Janaki
  
  Trivia
  
  * This film marked Bharathiraja's debut in film making.
  * The producer of the film went into hiding to avoid income tax raids;as the film was a very big hit.[3]
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Jul 16 9:25:17 2007.

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  Advance B'day Wishes to BharathiRaja (July 17)
  
  

• From: smith1 on Mon Jul 16 9:31:13 2007.

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  If I remember right, AV had given 100/100 & remarked "Very good" for 16 yrs.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Jul 16 9:40:23 2007.

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  Smith,
  
  Ananda Vikatan gave 62.5/100 to 16 Vayathinile (Highest marks awarded in their reviews till date). As you said, they had remarked "Very Good" too.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 16 9:53:25 2007.

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  Once again a nice pick Selva
  
  Will write more later
  
  

• From: sriranga on Mon Jul 16 9:53:36 2007.

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  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Smith, Ananda Vikatan gave 62.5/100 to 16 Vayathinile (Highest marks awarded in their reviews till date). As you said, they had remarked "Very Good" too.

  
  
  i think pasamalar got the highest.
  devar magan got 64.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 16 9:55:32 2007.

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  sriranga wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Smith, Ananda Vikatan gave 62.5/100 to 16 Vayathinile (Highest marks awarded in their reviews till date). As you said, they had remarked "Very Good" too. i think pasamalar got the highest. devar magan got 64.

  
  
  I expected this. Now everybody will start discussing and arguing which movie got what marks in AV .
  
  Please talk about 16 VayathinilE. One of the all time greats of Tamil film history
  
  

• From: sriranga on Mon Jul 16 10:13:49 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  sriranga wrote: littlemaster1982 wrote: Smith, Ananda Vikatan gave 62.5/100 to 16 Vayathinile (Highest marks awarded in their reviews till date). As you said, they had remarked "Very Good" too. i think pasamalar got the highest. devar magan got 64. I expected this. Now everybody will start discussing and arguing which movie got what marks in AV . Please talk about 16 VayathinilE. One of the all time greats of Tamil film history

  
  
  16 vayathinile is a good movie.
  "yaravathu unna chappani nnu sonna chappunnu arachindu"
  "idhu epdi irukku"
  
  <dig>
  for movie of last week, poo vizhi vasalile, people were discussing prem nazir, mamooty, mohan laadu oops mohan lal, appa ellam inga orutharum ketka aal illai.
  
  inga oruthar 16 vayathinile noothukku nooru vangichinu solrar. antha record pathi discuss panna rendu post kooda varala athukulla kovichikareengale.
  </dig>
  
  

• From: sriranga on Mon Jul 16 10:13:49 2007.

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  -repeatu-
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Jul 16 10:29:10 2007.

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  sriranga wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Smith, Ananda Vikatan gave 62.5/100 to 16 Vayathinile (Highest marks awarded in their reviews till date). As you said, they had remarked "Very Good" too. i think pasamalar got the highest. devar magan got 64.

  
  I don't think DM got 64. MN, Hey raam got 60 each
  
  Anyway its a wonderful movie, the movie meant a LOT to thalaivar as well. I just saw this movie one more time last month, a timeless classic
  
  Also this is my most fav KH movie, w.r.to his performance
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Mon Jul 16 10:36:24 2007.

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  I was fortunate enough to be a first hand witness on this occasion which heralded the new arrival of Tamil cinema. To be precise, I saw the opening show of 16 Vayadhinile on 15th Sep 1977 at Madurai - Cinipriya. Our college club had arranged the show and there was this whole lot of students who came in droves and simply lapped up the film. BR was daringly different in those times by putting up the character names in the titles like Sappani, Mayil and Paratai instead of the artists names and he symbolically announced his arrival - "Athha Naan Paasayiten" when the screen would reflect Thirailkathai -Direction - Bharathi Rajaa.
  
  Well all the dialogues became the talk of the town and student community had a special liking for "Manja Dhavani Podalama? Podalame". Then the ever famous " Iva Aththakku dhavani pottakooda nalladhan irukkum". Not to forget the " Idhu Eppadi irukku?".
  
  IR after Annakili didn't have a great hit but this simply catapulated him to glorious heights. Talking about AV's review, I remember Kumudam's review. As it is wont, after pinpointing certain scenes in the movie, kumudam (or rather SAP) wrote " Kamal,neengal vegu dhooram vandhu vitteergal ayya,vegu dhooram". About IR it wrote, "Annakili-piragu Ilayaraja thalai thookukirar" .
  
  Then as everyone is aware after seeing this KB wrote a letter to Kamal saying "Badava Rascal --- " which I think Kamal had framed and hung in his office.
  
  Well this is only trivia. I am sure many would come out with great posts on this film.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Jul 16 12:57:37 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  I was fortunate enough to be a first hand witness on this occasion which heralded the new arrival of Tamil cinema. To be precise, I saw the opening show of 16 Vayadhinile on 15th Sep 1977 at Madurai - Cinipriya. Our college club had arranged the show and there was this whole lot of students who came in droves and simply lapped up the film. BR was daringly different in those times by putting up the character names in the titles like Sappani, Mayil and Paratai instead of the artists names and he symbolically announced his arrival - "Athha Naan Paasayiten" when the screen would reflect Thirailkathai -Direction - Bharathi Rajaa. Well all the dialogues became the talk of the town and student community had a special liking for "Manja Dhavani Podalama? Podalame". Then the ever famous " Iva Aththakku dhavani pottakooda nalladhan irukkum". Not to forget the " Idhu Eppadi irukku?". IR after Annakili didn't have a great hit but this simply catapulated him to glorious heights. Talking about AV's review, I remember Kumudam's review. As it is wont, after pinpointing certain scenes in the movie, kumudam (or rather SAP) wrote " Kamal,neengal vegu dhooram vandhu vitteergal ayya,vegu dhooram". About IR it wrote, "Annakili-piragu Ilayaraja thalai thookukirar" . Then as everyone is aware after seeing this KB wrote a letter to Kamal saying "Badava Rascal --- " which I think Kamal had framed and hung in his office. Well this is only trivia. I am sure many would come out with great posts on this film. Regards

  
  
  As always
  
  Please keep those anecdotes, info and trivia coming
  
  BTW,
  
  அருமையான படம்
  ஆன்டவர், பாரதிராஜா, இளையராஜா -
  ரஜினி,ஸ்ரீதேவி -
  
  more later
  
  (tried typing in tamil for change, don't spit if i misspelt the names )
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Jul 16 13:06:33 2007.

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  http://www.hindu.com/fr/2007/07/13/stories/2007071350330100.htm
  
  Film Maker's Favourite!
  
  Good Directiors like Sridhar, KB, Balumahendra, Ameer, Baghyaraj, Maniratnam, KSRavikumar, Mahendran have mentioned their top10 and except Balumahendra, every one had mentioned 16 Vayathinikley!
  
  From MAhendran to Ameer, if this film merismises, then tis is surely a Timeless epic!
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Mon Jul 16 13:20:28 2007.

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  16 வயதினிலே − தமிழ்த்திரையுலகில் இது ஒரு மைல்க்கல்
  ஆம் 60−70'களில் பாலசந்தர்,ஸ்ரீதர் மாற்றிய தமிழ்திரையின் நடையை
  மேலும் மெருக்கேற்றிய பெருமை பாரதிராஜாவை சேரும்
  
  முதன் முறையாக முழுக்க முழுக்க கிராமத்து பிண்ணனியை கொண்டு உருவாக்கப்பட்ட படம். ஒவ்வொரு காட்சியும் யதார்த்தம்
  
  இன்றும் நாம் உசிலம்பட்டி, மேலூர் பகுதிகளில் எத்தனையோ மயில்களையும், சப்பாணியையும், பரட்டைகளையும் பார்க்க முடியும்
  
  அப்படி ஒன்றி பார்க்கும் அளவிற்கு அழகாக படமாக்கியிருப்பார் பாரதிராஜா
  அவரது கிராமத்து மனத்திற்கு மேலும் சந்தனம் பூசியது போல் அமைந்தது இளையராஜாவின் இசை
  
  ஏஏஏஏஏ செவ்வந்தி பூ முடிச்ச சின்னக்கா வில் ஒரு கிராமிய துள்ளல்,
  செந்தூரப்பூவே வில் கிராமிய கன்னியின் ஆவல்,
  ஆட்டுக்குட்டி முட்டையிட்டுவில் கிராமத்தானின் பாட்டு கட்டும் ஆற்றல்
  
  என பல கிராமிய சங்கதிகளை நமக்கு இளையராஜா வாரி வழங்கினார் என்றால் மிகையில்லை
  
  இதற்கு பிறகு பாரதிராஜா எத்தனையோ படங்கள் எடுத்திருந்தாலும்
  அவரது சிறந்த படைப்பு 16 வயதினிலே
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 16 13:41:02 2007.

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  Thanks Murali Sir for this wonderful piece of write up Your memory power is amazing
  
  

  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  I was fortunate enough to be a first hand witness on this occasion which heralded the new arrival of Tamil cinema. To be precise, I saw the opening show of 16 Vayadhinile on 15th Sep 1977 at Madurai - Cinipriya. Our college club had arranged the show and there was this whole lot of students who came in droves and simply lapped up the film. BR was daringly different in those times by putting up the character names in the titles like Sappani, Mayil and Paratai instead of the artists names and he symbolically announced his arrival - "Athha Naan Paasayiten" when the screen would reflect Thirailkathai -Direction - Bharathi Rajaa.

  
  
  Recently when SPB was the guest in Coffee with Anu program - he shared many nostalgic moments he had with IR, BR, Gangai Amaran et al. He was telling the struggles they all had to go through during the initial days in their career. He said, BR used to accompany him where ever he goes and always keeps on telling different types of stories and asks for his opinion. இந்த கத பண்ணலாமா அந்த கத பண்ணலாமான்னு கேப்பான். அவன் கதையெல்லாம் ரொம்ப அட்வான்ஸ்டா இருக்கும். அப்பவே 16 வயதினிலே, சிகப்பு ரோஜாக்கள் கதையெல்லாம் சொல்லுவான். கமல் அந்த டைம் ரொம்ப popular கிடையாது. அவன் கத சொல்லும்போது அதுக்கு நான் “டேய் ரொம்ப அட்வான்ஸா யோசிக்கிறடா இதெல்லாம் சரி வராது. இந்த கதையெல்லாம் சிவாஜி சார்தான் பண்ண முடியும். நீயும் நானும் போய் அவர்கிட்ட கத சொல்ல முடியுமாடா” அப்படின்னு சொல்லுவேன்.
  
  Then he said - finally BR proved what he is capable of and made a drastic change and lasting impact in Tamizh film history
  
  
  

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  Well all the dialogues became the talk of the town and student community had a special liking for "Manja Dhavani Podalama? Podalame". Then the ever famous " Iva Aththakku dhavani pottakooda nalladhan irukkum". Not to forget the " Idhu Eppadi irukku?".

  
  
  How can we forget 'aathA aadu vaLathA... kOzhi vaLathA... '
  
  

  Quote:

  IR after Annakili didn't have a great hit but this simply catapulated him to glorious heights. Talking about AV's review, I remember Kumudam's review. As it is wont, after pinpointing certain scenes in the movie, kumudam (or rather SAP) wrote " Kamal,neengal vegu dhooram vandhu vitteergal ayya,vegu dhooram". About IR it wrote, "Annakili-piragu Ilayaraja thalai thookukirar" .

  
  
  Kamal was only 23 at that time. ithukku mEla enna solla mudiyum ! ( I earlier tried to insert some emotions here but intha thiRamai ellAm emotions-ku appatpattathunnu thOnuchu so removed it ) .
  
  S Janaki bagged the national award for 'SenthoorappoovE'.
  
  If I remember correct Malaysia Vasudevan's debut song was 'aattukutty muttaiyittu' . Hope someone can clarify.
  
  
  
  

• From: tvsankar on Mon Jul 16 14:14:23 2007.

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  Direction and Music - Indha irandilum , pudhiya, vidhyasamana muyarchiyai seidhu irupargal BR um IR um.
  
  BR in Direction - ADhu varai , gramiyam enralae orae madhiriyaga, villan, Nattamai, kodumai enra madhiriyana kadhaigal vandha podhu,
  
  Mutrilum maarupadaga, Unmaiyana CHARACTERS ai padamaga edutha BR in Dhariyathai Paaratiyae aga vendum...
  
  Camera - Sirudhum bore illamal, short and sweet aga eduthu irupar.Colourful Village ai kaati irupar.
  
  Chappani - iNdha Character ai edupadharkae Dhairiyam vendum.
  
  Kamal nadandhu varuvar enralae - Camera aadi , aadi oru shot varum.Udanae nam manadhu Kamal vara povadhai unarndhu kollum.
  
  Sri Devi - Teacher Kanavu - Kaiyil kudai, chinna kondai - enru village pengaluku teacher agum message ai sonna oru padam....
  
  Isai - Village enralae kutthu paatu, adharkenru oru sila vagai instruments enra oru culture ai meeri,
  
  Village padamae analum - Guitar, keyboard enrum Melody Composing enrum Kalaki Irupar IR.Indha padalgal olikadha patti, thotti illai.....
  
  Andha period il , oru Vetri petra oru padam idhu..... Village film - A centre lum odiyadhu.Karanam BR um IR um Kamal um dhan.......
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Mon Jul 16 14:22:41 2007.

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  Hats off to BarathiRaja, this movie changed tamil cinema..
  
  it made tamil cinema technically much better..
  
  and it has two of my most favourite scenes, one of which used to be A_A's avatar, the other one being the climax scene..
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 16 14:33:54 2007.

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  tvsankar wrote:

  Andha period il , oru Vetri petra oru padam idhu..... Village film - A centre lum odiyadhu.Karanam BR um IR um Kamal um dhan.......

  
  
  
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Jul 16 14:37:40 2007.

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  Roshan,
  
  Malaysia Vasudevan has sang for MSV. But then, I'm not 100% sure though
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Jul 16 14:52:11 2007.

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  IMO this is the most important film in TF history.
  Nothing of that sort had been seen before.
  BR and IR saw to it that the statement was loud and clear: films weren't just to be seen and heard but are to be felt.
  BR spawned a lot of mimics but few equals.
  Kamal was extraordinary. Great support from Rajini and SridEvi.
  
  The dialogues were top-notch. Not just the weighty ones, even the passing lines. Took you faster into the world than anything else.
  
  "adhu paavam vitturungadA...inimE adhu oNNukkE adikkAdhudA"
  
  "Osi soda vEnumnu un moonjiyile ezhuthi ottirukkE"
  
  "naan sandhaikku pOgaNum...aathA vaiyum kaasu kodu"
  
  "seeppu kuduthu vittALE...sillarai kuduththu vittALA ?"
  
  "naan bONi panna vandhirukkEn.......idhu eppidi irukku"
  
  Dr: not necessary...he is coming
  GM: ayya enna sonneenga
  Dr: sappANi varAnnu sonnEn
  GM: sarthAng..
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Jul 16 14:58:23 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Roshan, Malaysia Vasudevan has sang for MSV. But then, I'm not 100% sure though

  
  
  Thilak,
  
  You are correct. He has sung for MSV before singing for IR. But his debut song is for the film "Delhi to Madras" Adhu thamizh padamAnnE theriyala Then the 3rd has been 16 vayathinilE. And in terms of reach I think 16 vayathinilE is the first
  
  " Malaysia Vasudevan is a Tamil singer who was born in Malaysia. He moved to India and found a career as a singer and actor in stage plays. Later, he started singing for movies and, to date, has nearly 4,000 songs in four South Indian languages to his credit. He has also acted in nearly 85 films. His first song was for the film "Delhi to Madras". He then did a stint with M.S.Viswanathan and was eventualy sought by Ilaiyaraja and Bharathiraja to sing in the film "16 Vayathinile". He has also sung few songs in Hindi. He has been awarded "Kalaimamani" by the Tamil Nadu Government "
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Vasudevan
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Jul 16 15:15:46 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Roshan, Malaysia Vasudevan has sang for MSV. But then, I'm not 100% sure though Thilak, You are correct. He has sung for MSV before singing for IR. But his debut song is for the film "Delhi to Madras" Adhu thamizh padamAnnE theriyala Then the 3rd has been 16 vayathinilE. And in terms of reach I think 16 vayathinilE is the first " Malaysia Vasudevan is a Tamil singer who was born in Malaysia. He moved to India and found a career as a singer and actor in stage plays. Later, he started singing for movies and, to date, has nearly 4,000 songs in four South Indian languages to his credit. He has also acted in nearly 85 films. His first song was for the film "Delhi to Madras". He then did a stint with M.S.Viswanathan and was eventualy sought by Ilaiyaraja and Bharathiraja to sing in the film "16 Vayathinile". He has also sung few songs in Hindi. He has been awarded "Kalaimamani" by the Tamil Nadu Government " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Vasudevan

  
  
  
  
  I don't remember any popular MV song prior to that!
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Mon Jul 16 16:22:53 2007.

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  MV sang along with TMS,PS,LRE in the ïndhiya naadu en veedu"from bharatavilas
  
  

• From: kannannn on Mon Jul 16 16:45:23 2007.

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  Though I like Sigappu Rojakkal better, 16 Vayadhinile had some of the best characterisations in Tamil Cinema ever. Over the top theatrics was done away with for the first time and everyone delivered top notch performance. IR's genius shines (idhellam sollanuma ). Be it the BGM ('Aatha aadu valatha..') or songs ('Aatukutti muttayittu' is one of my all time favourite songs ). My favourite scene is the one where Rajini's side kick points to Sridevi and says, "Adho namba Kuruvamma ponnu paavada dhaavanila enna arumaya irukka!", to which Rajini replies "Iva enna, iva ammavukku paavada dhaavani potta kuda nalla dhaan iruppa" and ACTUALLY imagines Gandhimadhi in pavadai dhaavani!! What twisted and perverted thinking
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Jul 16 20:53:24 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  I don't remember any popular MV song prior to that!

  How dare you?
  
  paalu vikkira paththuma un paalu romba suththamaa, ayyO amma vekkamaa koodaadhamma
  
  maalai ittu manamudiththa manamagalaaga vidhi mounamaaga pOguthamma oorvalamaaga
  
  

• From: Braandan on Mon Jul 16 21:07:11 2007.

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  remembering those days.. I was in 8th standard and first heard the song "sendoorappove" was hummed by my science teacher.. that also started Bharatiraja's trend of the herione coming in white dress in atleast one scene..
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jul 16 22:34:03 2007.

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  தமிழ் சினிமாவை புரட்டிப்போட்ட படம்!
  
  ஏராளமான இன்றைய இயக்குநர்களுக்கு தூண்டுகோலாகவும் மாற்று சினிமா மீதான நம்பிக்கையின் விதையாகவும் அமைந்த திரைப்படம்.
  
  பாரதிராஜா என்ற மகத்தான கலைஞன் மண்ணின் மணத்தை திரையிலேயே மக்களை உணர வைத்த படம்.
  
  கமல்ஹாசன் என்ற மேதையின் நடிப்பாற்றலை இளம் வயதிலேயே உலகுக்கு பறைசாற்றிய படம்.
  
  இளைய ராஜா இசையுலகின் இணையில்லா ராஜா என கட்டியம் கூறிய படம்.
  
  தமிழ் திரையுலக சரித்திரத்தில் ஒரு புது அத்தியாயத்தின் தொடக்கம்.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 17 1:21:40 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: I don't remember any popular MV song prior to that! How dare you? paalu vikkira paththuma un paalu romba suththamaa, ayyO amma vekkamaa koodaadhamma maalai ittu manamudiththa manamagalaaga vidhi mounamaaga pOguthamma oorvalamaaga

  
  
  
  
  I'm sorry. I'm officially disappointed, depressed, disgusted and I'm going to kill myself
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue Jul 17 8:58:41 2007.

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  Thanks Roshan and Thilak.
  
  Some more thoughts on this movie.
  
  The camera work was great. Nivas did a fabulous job. If my memory serves me right this was the first Tamil movie to be shot in ORWO colour film. Tamil films migrated from Gava colour ( Alibabha, VPKB) to technic colour (Konjum Salangai) and settled in Eastman (starting from Karnan). Budget being a constraint as even the producer (Amman creations - SA Rajkannu) was new, they settled for ORWO but the quality was first class. Seeing Nivas's work and IR's music, Sridhar booked both of them for his Ilamai Oonjaladugirathu. Nivas manintained his relationship with BR till Kallukul Eeram which was in fact directed by Nivas and supervised by BR. Afterwards it was Kannan for BR and Nivas slowely faded out. But he was a cameraman who got applause in theatres much before Ashok kumar and Balu Mahendra.
  
  Speaking about the budget during those times Karnataka govt was giving subsidy of Rs 50,000/- to any producer if he decided to shoot the film in Karnataka irrespective of the language of the film. (Yes. you heard me correct. It was Karnataka Govt. Comparing that with the mindset of present day Karnataka rulers would be -, well that is beyond the scope of this thread and let's leave it). Therefore BR shot 16 Vayadhinile in Karnataka. Again speaking about budget, the salary offered to Rajini was 1000 Rs who demanded 5000. BR spoke with him and finally Rajini settled for Rs 3000/- (again comparing Rajini of 1977 with 2007 Rajini, well you can't).
  
  Baghyaraj's touch (he was the asst director and helped in dialogues in addition to act as a vaidhyar in one scene) would also be evident in scenes like the old man telling Kamal " Kulathule mungi kulichtu pillayare 108 thadavai sutthanum; anaa eNNa koodadhu". Not to forger Goundamani who would chip in with some teasers.
  
  Another interesting trivia is about NT's compliment for IR. NT during that period had been doing a Q & A session in "Bommai". He started in 1977 last quarter and it continued for a year or so. During 1978 there was one question like this
  
  Sendra Varudam Vandha Paadalgalil ungalukku Pididhadhu?
  
  NT replied " Sendhoora Poove" .
  
  IR by this time had worked with NT (Dheepam & Thyagam) but for Ganagi Amaran this answer literally lifted him to cloud nine. (GA was the lyricist). IR literally lifted the film from scene 1 with "Solam vedaikaiyele"
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jul 18 0:24:01 2007.

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  16 vayadhinile:
  
  Raajakkalin raajiyam thodangiya idam / padam
  
  - paththa vechuttiye parattae
  
  - chappaninnu koopitta chappunnu aranjiru
  
  - em peru chappani illa, gopalakrishnan
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jul 19 1:15:35 2007.

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  Devar Magan wrote:

  and it has two of my most favourite scenes, one of which used to be A_A's avatar

  
  Thats one of my most favorite scenes in the movie as well. Not for the reason you like it though.
  
  IR's BGM was particularly impressive in this scene. Horse's sound when kamal starts walking towards the doctor and the violin piece at the end of the scene were mindblowing. Kamal asking ithu epdi irukku was the icing on the cake. What a scene!!! Kamal's performance is perhaps one of the top 5 performances ever in TF industry
  
  For Rajini, 16V probably is the most important film in his career. Though he had given stellar performances in MM and avargaL before 16V he wasnt actually *noticed*. Million thanks BR These are my favorite Rajini scenes in the movie.
  
  1. patha vechittiyE paratta
  2. seeppu kuduthuvittALE sillaRa kuduthu vittaaLA
  3. His intro
  4. And of course the vadivukkarasi->half-saree scene
  
  Another thing that amazes me is Rajini's voice modulation in that character. Stunning!!!!!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 19 1:31:38 2007.

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  Nitpick alert:
  The one thing which stood out sorely was the makeup! However, it should be excused for that time and age.
  
  P.S: What makes Aandavar's performance even more special (and even Rajini's too) is the impact and reaction he generated though his screentime was not that much.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 19 1:45:40 2007.

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  Adding to Nerd's capture of the scene.
  
  There are frozen frames of everyone when ChappANi slaps Parattai......including the village dog
  
  Kamal's maintaining the exact limp even when running out of the scene is marvellous. 23 ?!!
  
  I just can't enough out of the dialogues. Simple and appealing:
  
  sidekick: EndA oorlayE parattai annan orutharukku thAnE eNNai thEcchu vidare
  ChappANi: adheppidi....nAttar oottu erumai...paNNai veettu kannukkutti, ellAthukkum naan thAnE thEcchu udarEn
  GM: hahahahan.......appo parattaiye erumaingra ?
  Parattai: appidiyA dA ?
  Parattai: erumai dhaan pEsAdhE nee dhAn pEsuriyE
  _____________
  oor payaluvulakkellAm em mElam kOvam......oorle oru payal oru vElai sonna seyyiradhillayE.....nee sonnA thAnE edhaiyum naan seyvEn (brimming with the pride of obedience when he says that)
  ______________
  Parattai: ippo nee enna solre............nee chumma iru
  ____________________
  Mayil: (after taking the hen from him).........mm aathA kEttA ?
  ChappANi: naan dhAn doctortta pOnEnnu solREn (awesome voice modulation)
  Mayil: nalla ChappANi.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Jul 19 5:22:57 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Adding to Nerd's capture of the scene. There are frozen frames of everyone when ChappANi slaps Parattai......including the village dog Kamal's maintaining the exact limp even when running out of the scene is marvellous. 23 ?!! I just can't enough out of the dialogues. Simple and appealing: sidekick: EndA oorlayE parattai annan orutharukku thAnE eNNai thEcchu vidare ChappANi: adheppidi....nAttar oottu erumai...paNNai veettu kannukkutti, ellAthukkum naan thAnE thEcchu udarEn GM: hahahahan.......appo parattaiye erumaingra ? Parattai: appidiyA dA ? Parattai: erumai dhaan pEsAdhE nee dhAn pEsuriyE _____________ oor payaluvulakkellAm em mElam kOvam......oorle oru payal oru vElai sonna seyyiradhillayE.....nee sonnA thAnE edhaiyum naan seyvEn (brimming with the pride of obedience when he says that) ______________ Parattai: ippo nee enna solre............nee chumma iru ____________________ Mayil: (after taking the hen from him).........mm aathA kEttA ? ChappANi: naan dhAn doctortta pOnEnnu solREn (awesome voice modulation) Mayil: nalla ChappANi.

  
  
  
  appadiye padm partha unarvu
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jul 19 5:46:13 2007.

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  16 vaiyadhinule - first thing come to mind is slow motion attempt by sridevi in end of sendhoora poo song semma comedy. whole movie sridevi's face was like eli fallen into maavu . so much powder on black face. idhu ellaatukkum mela sridevi passes 10th std only but wants to bcome a teacher
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Jul 19 5:55:38 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  16 vaiyadhinule - first thing come to mind is slow motion attempt by sridevi in end of sendhoora poo song semma comedy. whole movie sridevi's face was like eli fallen into maavu . so much powder on black face. idhu ellaatukkum mela sridevi passes 10th std only but wants to bcome a teacher

  
  
  it is laughable only when she says after failing in 10th std
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Jul 19 6:08:07 2007.

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  10th pass panni doctor aaganumnu aasai irundha science group edukkalam... accountant aganumna commerce group edukklam...
  andha meaningla sri devi solli irukkum
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 19 6:58:02 2007.

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  Just got back from one of those meetings where my boss has some 'quick' tasks for me. I exercised great control to stop myself from saying : " adhukku vEra aaLaippAru.......aaru kittayum vElai seyyapdAdhunnu mayilu sollirukku"
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 19 6:59:55 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Just got back from one of those meetings where my boss has some 'quick' tasks for me. I exercised great control to stop myself from saying : " adhukku vEra aaLaippAru.......aaru kittayum vElai seyyapdAdhunnu mayilu sollirukku"

  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jul 19 7:12:33 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Just got back from one of those meetings where my boss has some 'quick' tasks for me. I exercised great control to stop myself from saying : " adhukku vEra aaLaippAru.......aaru kittayum vElai seyyapdAdhunnu mayilu sollirukku"

  
  
  haha good one PR
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Thu Jul 19 7:21:22 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  ....

  
  
  Thats obvious, Vivasaayi. When trends change, such things evoke laughter. When i watched a song from Jhonny the other day, i couldnt control my laughter after watching SS, running in slow motion in his huge bells..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Jul 25 4:09:39 2007.

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  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235604/
  
  Moodupani
  
  Cast:
  Pratab
  Shobha
  
  Director
  Balu Mahendra
  
  Music
  Ilayaraja
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Wed Jul 25 4:11:02 2007.

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  en iniya pon nilaave...
  
  
  
  ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Jul 25 4:19:23 2007.

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  I think this is Isai Nyani's 100th movie !
  
  4songs :
  
  1. En iniya pon nilave
  2. Paru kalangalin kanavugal
  3. Aasai raja aareero
  4. xxxx ( some english song )
  
  Wonderful BGM by IR !
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jul 25 4:30:12 2007.

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  Mike Mohan's first Tamil movie
  
  Asusual Pratap bothen acts like a loosu
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jul 25 4:35:29 2007.

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  Ilaiyaraaja asusual
  
  

• From: swathy on Wed Jul 25 4:47:51 2007.

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  Very good pick. Raja's 100th movie
  
  

• From: madhus369 on Wed Jul 25 11:30:57 2007.

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  This spawned a few lesser thrillers like 'chinna mul periya mul' etc. I recall that there were a series of these thrillers that came after Moodupani.. Anyone else remember the names?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jul 25 11:37:23 2007.

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  Two things stand out:
  IR's music
  Shobha's acting. Shobha perhaps is the most natural tamil actress ever
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Jul 25 12:16:11 2007.

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  Devar Magan wrote:

  en iniya pon nilaave... ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu

  
  
  athey than
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jul 25 12:20:42 2007.

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  Like DM said, i remember virtually nothing from the movie except "En Iniya Pon Nilave" - 'tha god level classical guitar
  
  Wanna watch it for Ilaiyaan and Balu Sir
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Jul 25 12:21:34 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  Devar Magan wrote: en iniya pon nilaave... ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu athey than

  
  
  இங்ேகயும் அேததான்.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Wed Jul 25 12:26:24 2007.

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  Thirumaran wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: Devar Magan wrote: en iniya pon nilaave... ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu athey than இங்ேகயும் அேததான்.

  
  
  I remember much more than you guys. I liked this film when I watched it. Shoba's acting is excellent, and vividly remember Prathap pothen's swashbuckling expressions.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Jul 25 12:57:59 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  Devar Magan wrote: en iniya pon nilaave... ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu athey than

  
  
  ingEyum adhEthAn
  
  

• From: kannannn on Wed Jul 25 13:23:56 2007.

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  aalaalukku pesitirundha eppadi? Vishayam therinjavunga naalu vari solradhu..
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Jul 25 13:33:30 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Sanjeevi wrote: Devar Magan wrote: en iniya pon nilaave... ithukku mela intha padatha pahti ennaku onnum theriyaathu athey than இங்ேகயும் அேததான். I remember much more than you guys. I liked this film when I watched it. Shoba's acting is excellent, and vividly remember Prathap pothen's swashbuckling expressions.

  
  
  thilak we are saying that we did not see the film
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Jul 25 20:31:14 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  aalaalukku pesitirundha eppadi? Vishayam therinjavunga naalu vari solradhu..

  solradhukku perusaa onnummilla. you can call moodu pani a hitchcockian psycho thriller.
  
  yes, it was IR's 100th film, but he impressed more in the BGM then in the songs. very apt for this thriller, which was perhaps the predecessor to films like Guna, Kadhal Konden and all new films today, where the heroes are half mad.
  
  baluM proved his mantle as a cinematographer in this film with low lights, misty backgrounds, scary silhouttes and sunlight beams.
  The entire story was spun around baluM's wife Shoba. pity that she had such a horrible end in real life.
  
  i didnt particularly like the ending especially since the build up was good. discovering pratap with the skeletons of his mom would have been a good climax, but pratap himself never rose to the ocassion and gave a flat ending.
  
  in the end Moodu Pani will be remembered as IR's 100th film rather than as a masterpiece of cinematographer turned firector, Balu Mahendra
  
  

• From: RC on Wed Jul 25 20:57:56 2007.

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  Moodupani was originally a novel by Rajeshkumar ( or was it Rajendrakumar?).
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jul 26 1:02:54 2007.

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  Mudupani heavily inspired from Hitcock's Psyco. Psyco is the mother of many movies like:
  Mudupani
  Guna
  Kadhal Kondein
  Darr
  Agnisakshi
  Sigappu rojakkal (parts)
  
  ilayarasa however was not inspired from anyone. his rerecording was "nachhu", infact thot how will it be if he had scored for original Psyco . Ilayaras and Ledzepplin are similar and it shows in en iniya pon nilave song
  selvakumar - Plese change the thred tital to "Mokkai of the week" . oru nalla padamavadhu podungappa - ex: Captain prabhakaran, Pulan visaranai, Sethupathy IPS, Sathriyan, Vallarasu . or does the hub panel thinks its too cheap to discuess captan movies?? .
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jul 26 1:25:10 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  selvakumar - Plese change the thred tital to "Mokkai of the week" . oru nalla padamavadhu podungappa - ex: Captain prabhakaran, Pulan visaranai, Sethupathy IPS, Sathriyan, Vallarasu . or does the hub panel thinks its too cheap to discuess captan movies?? .

  
  
  
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 1:30:16 2007.

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  Vivasayi,
  
  IR would agree that he was inspired from Herrmann (who composed for Psycho and hitch movies).
  
  And Psycho is about MPD.
  
  I don't think the comparison is right, especially with Sigappu rojakkal, Guna, Kadhal kondein or Darr!
  
  Now, don't bring up Anniyan!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jul 26 1:32:46 2007.

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  Guys,
  I feel that Moodu Pani is a good movie with good performance from Shoba. The feel provided is too good. It might hav ebeen inspired from other movies. But that doesn't make it a crap
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Thu Jul 26 1:34:29 2007.

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  Moodupani as mentioned was PSYCHO's inpiration.
  
  GOOD ENOUGH.
  
  I liked everybody's performance NEEDLESS TO SAY ABOUT SHOBHA, who always excelled.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 1:35:15 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Guys, I feel that Moodu Pani is a good movie with good performance from Shoba. The feel provided is too good. It might hav ebeen inspired from other movies. But that doesn't make it a crap

  
  
  
  
  But just clarified the olaral from Mr.Farmer.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Jul 26 1:36:35 2007.

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  Selva Sir
  
  Except for the songs/BGM , this movie is not at all worth discussing.
  
  Wonder what is ur criterion in choosing a movie for the week !
  
  Pl don’t host such movies like Moodupani just to post something.
  
  FYI, there are so many wonderful movies in the 80s and 90s.
  
  Why don’t u host them ?
  
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 1:41:33 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Except for the songs/BGM , this movie is not at all worth discussing.

  
  
  List out your negative points. SO that, those who thought about checking out this film, wouldn't.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Jul 26 1:44:49 2007.

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  Hare bhai>>> THilak4L
  
  There is nothing great to talk about the movie except the songs & BGM
  
  I have mentioned very clearly in previous post. This movie is nothing but a crap .
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 1:48:41 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Hare bhai>>> THilak4L There is nothing great to talk about the movie except the songs & BGM I have mentioned very clearly in previous post. This movie is nothing but a crap .

  
  
  That is what I'm asking! Why it's crap? I could call Guna "crap". But there must be some reason behind it. Just calling it 'crap' and rejecting everything isn't justified or, IOW, it's incomplete. List out the reasons
  
  For example,
  
  Did you hate the way Balu mahendra used the songs?
  Is the plot, rusty or weak?
  Did Prathap pothan overact?
  Was the cinematography hard on your eyes?
  ..more on that lines
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jul 26 2:06:23 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Why don’t u host them ?

  
  
  As I said already, I have not so good knowledge in judging the QUALITY of a movie FYI
  Instead of asking me, why don't u select a few bunch of movies and send it to us [/tscii]
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jul 26 2:08:34 2007.

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  & Nakeeran,
  Every movie has something special Purpose of this thread is to focuss on them as well. For e.g., OOmai vizhigal is a bit different since it marked TFI students arrival and it is special in that category. |||ly Moodu pani too is special in some aspects
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Jul 26 2:10:07 2007.

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  Moodu Pani - Is this the movie in which Prathap Pothan is a serial killer? Hates prostitues because of his bad past blah blah...! Eppavo DD-la paathadha gyabhgam!
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jul 26 5:15:47 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  But just clarified the olaral from Mr.Farmer.

  
  
  do u talk like that abt unknown stranger people? . olaral, l? i dint even criticise this movie . i just said it was inspired from Psyco which was agreed by Shakthiprabha as well. you mean to say he also olaralled?
  
  olunga mariyadhaya padathha pathhi pesu, yenna pathhi pesura velai ellam vechhikkaadha
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 5:59:46 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: But just clarified the olaral from Mr.Farmer. . olaral, l? i dint even criticise this movie . i just said it was inspired from Psyco which was agreed by Shakthiprabha as well. you mean to say he also olaralled?

  
  
  
  
  I didn't say Moodupani wasn't inspired by Psycho. Just clarified that Psycho isn't the inspiration for some of the films you mentioned.
  

  Quote:

  olunga mariyadhaya padathha pathhi pesu, yenna pathhi pesura velai ellam vechhikkaadha

  
  
  ippo mirattal
  
  

  Quote:

  do u talk like that abt unknown stranger people?

  
  
  ANNE, neenga yaaru-nu yellarukkum theriyum.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 26 6:10:03 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Vivasayi, IR would agree that he was inspired from Herrmann (who composed for Psycho and hitch movies). And Psycho is about MPD. I don't think the comparison is right, especially with Sigappu rojakkal, Guna, Kadhal kondein or Darr! Now, don't bring up Anniyan!

  
  Thilak,
  Enna ippadi sollipteenga??? theriyadha ungalukku???
  One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Araaro Ariraro, Nayagan, Kadhalukkku Mariyadhai, Sethu, Chinna Thambi, Moondram Pirai, Virumaandi, Kaadhal - all these and more were inspired from Psycho.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 6:13:50 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Vivasayi, IR would agree that he was inspired from Herrmann (who composed for Psycho and hitch movies). And Psycho is about MPD. I don't think the comparison is right, especially with Sigappu rojakkal, Guna, Kadhal kondein or Darr! Now, don't bring up Anniyan! Thilak, Enna ippadi sollipteenga??? theriyadha ungalukku??? One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Araaro Ariraro, Nayagan, Kadhalukkku Mariyadhai, Sethu, Chinna Thambi, Moondram Pirai, Virumaandi, Kaadhal - all these and more were inspired from Psycho.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Jul 26 6:17:51 2007.

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  Thilak4life Sir
  
  Atleast neengalaavadhu Moodupani patri edhavadhu ezudhuveenganu parthen. Chumma kozi sandai dhaan podureenga
  Write about the movie instead of teaming up to target poor Vivasayi
  
  Cool
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Thu Jul 26 6:21:21 2007.

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  Naksu,
  neengale ethaavathu padatha pathi mokkai podunga.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Jul 26 6:26:40 2007.

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  Ramakrishna wrote:

  Naksu, neengale ethaavathu padatha pathi mokkai podunga.

  
  
  En vaaya pudungadha Ramks
  
  Wonder why Selva Sir chose this movie above so many nice movies !
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 6:28:17 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  Thilak4life Sir Atleast neengalaavadhu Moodupani patri edhavadhu ezudhuveenganu parthen. Chumma kozi sandai dhaan podureenga Write about the movie instead of teaming up to target poor Vivasayi Cool

  
  
  Vanga vanga... unga negatives modalla sollunga... chumma 'crap'-nu solli odi poitinga
  
  As I said, I don't remember much except for Prathap pothan's expressions (which was funny, and the weird way he shouts). Shoba's expressions when it turns from innocence to fear when she finds out about Prathap pothen.
  
  I thought, maybe I should check it out again. But neenga thaan crap-nu solringa.. yen? konjam sollungO!
  
  Vivasayi saar thaan yedho inspiration pathi yellam pesuraaru. Let him explain how it is inspired.
  
  BTW, idhu kozhi sandai illa, pangali sandai.. Vivasaythilla idhellam sadharnamappa!
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Jul 26 6:36:40 2007.

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  Thilak
  
  Ennai poruthavarai , the only + is IR with 2 lovely songs & scintillating BGM.
  Rest of the movie>>>>>>> not even a single scene is worth appreciating. Thats why I hate this movie totally.
  Normally, in any bad movie, atleast one or 2 scenes may look interesting but this movie ????
  
  All the characters including great Shoba look pedestrian.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jul 26 6:48:45 2007.

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  psyco and other movies similiarities:
  
  hero is a psyco affected by some thing happened in his cildhood
  he is unusually mad in love with the female protaganist
  hero takes hostage of female protaganist.
  hero always thinks of dead mom/dad/some other unreal character as being alive.
  that supposedly mom/dad character wud be in a room which heroine finds out ultimately
  
  mudupani was more so, bcos of the feel that movie had was undeniably Hitchcock's style. the camera angles, lightings - everything, everything. only saving grace was as i said - Ilayaraja . y u think people are posting, "i dont remember anything but IR's music in the movie??" . dont tell me all are olarals
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 26 7:07:44 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  hero is a psyco affected by some thing happened in his cildhood he is unusually mad in love with the female protaganist

  
  
  Forget about similarities, you are wrong on both counts about the movie Psycho itself.
  There is *no incident* in his childhood which makes him hate/kill women. His childhood had been punctuated by his mother's domination and his jealousy. He is driven to the point of killing her and then comes the SPD. He is not madly in love with *the* female lead. She is not the first woman he kills. Infact, it is the "mother" (split half) who does the killing because "she" is jealous of any woman he gets close to.
  
  

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  hero takes hostage of female protaganist.

  
  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jul 26 7:26:10 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: hero is a psyco affected by some thing happened in his cildhood he is unusually mad in love with the female protaganist Forget about similarities, you are wrong on both counts about the movie Psycho itself. There is *no incident* in his childhood which makes him hate/kill women. His childhood had been punctuated by his mother's domination and his jealousy. He is driven to the point of killing her and then comes the SPD. He is not madly in love with *the* female lead. She is not the first woman he kills. Infact, it is the "mother" (split half) who does the killing because "she" is jealous of any woman he gets close to. Vivasaayi wrote: hero takes hostage of female protaganist.

  
  
  u mean to say that the mom's unusual domination cannot be counted as a incident?
  and if i'm not wrong he is in love with the female who comes and stays with him in the hotel :think: which our guys developed it into "manidhar unarndhu kolla mudiyaadha kaadhal"
  
  come on, these are pretty good similarities. i know ppl. want to protect Balu Mahendra here . see SP's comment and ask anyone.......nadathunga
  
  

• From: kannannn on Thu Jul 26 9:35:11 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  solradhukku perusaa onnummilla. you can call moodu pani a hitchcockian psycho thriller. yes, it was IR's 100th film, but he impressed more in the BGM then in the songs. very apt for this thriller, which was perhaps the predecessor to films like Guna, Kadhal Konden and all new films today, where the heroes are half mad. baluM proved his mantle as a cinematographer in this film with low lights, misty backgrounds, scary silhouttes and sunlight beams. The entire story was spun around baluM's wife Shoba. pity that she had such a horrible end in real life. i didnt particularly like the ending especially since the build up was good. discovering pratap with the skeletons of his mom would have been a good climax, but pratap himself never rose to the ocassion and gave a flat ending. in the end Moodu Pani will be remembered as IR's 100th film rather than as a masterpiece of cinematographer turned firector, Balu Mahendra

  
  Hmm.. not really compelling points. Medhuvaa paarthukkalam.
  
  Selva, I think it is necessary that those who nominate a movie should come forward and let know their reasons once it is selected as 'Movie of the Week'. At least they should write to you why it should be selected. Just my view.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Thu Jul 26 10:20:18 2007.

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  As usual some trivia about Moodupani. It was Rajendrakumar's story(!) and Balu Mahendra's second movie in Tamil after Ayiyatha Kolangal. Got released during Deepavali of 1980 along with biggies like Viswaroopam, Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu and Pollathavan. Had a decent run ( One interesting side info is all the above three had music by MSV and were 100 day movies). Calcutta Viswanathan acted as a police officer. Balu M would have written a interesting dialogue for him. Some students (Sobha's friends?) would approach CV for donation for which he would reply " This is what I call as Daylight robbery" , a dialogue going down well with city audience.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 26 10:51:45 2007.

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  Vivasaayi wrote:

  and if i'm not wrong he is in love with the female who comes and stays with him in the hotel :think: which our guys developed it into "manidhar unarndhu kolla mudiyaadha kaadhal"

  
  
  

  Quote:

  come on, these are pretty good similarities. i know ppl. want to protect Balu Mahendra here . see SP's comment and ask anyone.

  
  
  
  
  Seri free-ya vidunga saar. Maybe there are similarities with Moodupani but certainly not with that shortlist you compiled.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Jul 26 23:26:47 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  As usual some trivia about Moodupani. It was Rajendrakumar's story(!) and Balu Mahendra's second movie in Tamil after Ayiyatha Kolangal. Got released during Deepavali of 1980 along with biggies like Viswaroopam, Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu and Pollathavan. Had a decent run ( One interesting side info is all the above three had music by MSV and were 100 day movies). Calcutta Viswanathan acted as a police officer. Balu M would have written a interesting dialogue for him. Some students (Sobha's friends?) would approach CV for donation for which he would reply " This is what I call as Daylight robbery" , a dialogue going down well with city audience. Regards

  
  
  I was eager to know the name of that person. a lot Murali sir for the info. I like the FEEL of the movies. It was different from the regular 80's movies.
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Fri Jul 27 9:26:34 2007.

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  'Moodu pani' got good review from media and praised illayaraja music and balu's camera.
  after reading the review in kumudam I asked my mother to give money to watch movie. but my mother told that children shouldn't watch that movie(that time I was 10 years old)
  
  It ran around 40 days in madurai sivam theatre.
  
  

  Quote:

  Got released during Deepavali of 1980 along with biggies like Viswaroopam, Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu and Pollathavan. Had a decent run ( One interesting side info is all the above three had music by MSV and were 100 day movies).

  
  Is this chennai report?
  
  AFAIK
  
  Viswaroopam was washout, released in madurai newcinema theatre I watched this movie with my family.
  
  Polladhavan ran 50 days in madurai chintamani theatre and failed in boxoffice.
  
  Varumaiyin niram sivappu ran around 80 days in madurai central theatre.
  
  

• From: tacinema on Fri Jul 27 10:12:24 2007.

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  RR: I doubt your stat. Vishwaroopam was a successful 100-day movie and I saw the 100-day ceremony pic in New Cinema coffee place.
  
  Though Vroopam is not an NT-type movie, saying it was a wash out a bit too much.
  
  

• From: smith1 on Fri Jul 27 10:25:57 2007.

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  Vishwaroopam had a 100 day run at shanthi theatre in chennai.
  
  But then many sivaji films were made to run for 100 days in shanthi.
  
  But Viswaroopam was not a washout. It had at best an average run.
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Fri Jul 27 10:29:09 2007.

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  TAC,
  
  I am 100% confident that Viswaroopam was washout.we watched movie at night show(around 2nd or 3rd week).hardly 50 to 100 people were watching the movie.
  
  sridevi was heroine. am I correct?
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sat Jul 28 8:04:46 2007.

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  Dear Rajaram,
  
  The report I had given was about Chennai theatres but I also belong to Madurai and to say VR was a washout is completely out of target. Though the theatre names of all the four are correct, the no of days each one ran was different. VR released on Nov 6th at New Cinema ran for more than 50 days (I remember it as 58 days). Pollathavan ran for 79 days at Chintamani. It was replaced bu Ooty Varai Uravu (2 weeks) and Raja (3 weeks) before making way for Ram-Lakhsman which hit the theatres on 28th of Feb 1981. VNSivappu released in Central ran till 5th of Feb and it was replaced by KB's Ival Oru Kannagi(?) on 6th Feb.
  
  Regards
  
  PS: Smith, sandhadi sakkile niraiya NT padam was made to run in Shanthi solreengale, that is wrong.
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Sat Jul 28 12:31:26 2007.

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  Murali srinivas
  
  
  

  Quote:

  but I also belong to Madurai

  
  :
  
  In 80s shivaji was big hero compared with kamal and Rajini.even if it ran 50+ days, defenitely it is not a hit movie.
  
  Because those days I think BO of a movie decided based on Madurai report.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sat Jul 28 13:34:22 2007.

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  rajaram aNNE engE pOnAlum false information kudukka vENdiyathu
  
  

• From: tacinema on Sat Jul 28 16:49:56 2007.

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  Thanks God Rajaram: At least now you are agreeing that VRoopam was not a wash out movie. If it were a wash out movie, NT fans would be the first one agree with that point.
  
  Then again, I believe you are confused with the term: wash out. A wash out performance, in my view, is a disaster run at the box office, torn by the fans as well by critics. For a KH fan like you, some of the wash outs are: Mumbai Express, Aalavandhan, Enakkul Oruvan, Maharasan and so on.
  
  BTW, are these discussions any way related to Moodupani movie?
  
  

• From: sriranga on Sun Jul 29 1:14:17 2007.

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  tacinema wrote:

  Thanks God Rajaram: At least now you are agreeing that VRoopam was not a wash out movie. If it were a wash out movie, NT fans would be the first one agree with that point. Then again, I believe you are confused with the term: wash out. A wash out performance, in my view, is a disaster run at the box office, torn by the fans as well by critics. For a KH fan like you, some of the wash outs are: Mumbai Express, Aalavandhan, Enakkul Oruvan, Maharasan and so on. BTW, are these discussions any way related to Moodupani movie?

  
  
  
  good question.
  <dig>
  aana naanga padam partha thaane atha pathi discuss panrathukku. BO data collect panrathukke enga time seriya irukku.
  
  vartaa
  </dig>
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Sun Jul 29 9:33:45 2007.

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  Quote:

  Thanks God Rajaram: At least now you are agreeing that VRoopam was not a wash out movie. If it were a wash out movie, NT fans would be the first one agree with that point. Then again, I believe you are confused with the term: wash out. A wash out performance, in my view, is a disaster run at the box office, torn by the fans as well by critics. For a KH fan like you, some of the wash outs are: Mumbai Express, Aalavandhan, Enakkul Oruvan, Maharasan and so on.

  
  TAC அவர்களுக்கு,
  
  சிவாஜி ஒரு மாபெரும் கலைஞன். அதனால் விவாதத்தை தொடராமல் முடித்து கொண்டேன்.
  ஆனல் இப்பொழுது கமல் படங்களைப் பற்றி பேசியதால் விளக்கம் அளிக்க வேண்டியது என் கடமை.
  
  எனக்குள் ஒருவன் மதுரை சிவம் தியேட்டரில் 50 நாட்கள் ஒடியது.
  
  மகராசன் படத்தில் கமல் கெளரவ வேடத்தில் நடித்தார்.இருந்தும் மதுரை மீனாட்சி தியேட்டரில் 40 நாட்கள் ஒடியது.
  
  ஆளவந்தான் மதுரையில் 3 தியேட்டரில் 60 நாட்கள் ஒடியது.
  (அன்னியன் படமும் 3 தியேட்டரில் 65 நாட்கள் ஒடியது ஆனால் படம் SUPER HIT என்று அறிவிக்கப்பட்டது.)
  
  மும்பை எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் சினிப்ரியா காம்ப்ளக்சில் 50 நாட்கள் ஒடியது.
  
  மேற்கூறிய படங்கள் WASH OUT எல்லாம் என்றால் விஸ்வ ரூபம் HIT-ஆ?
  
  80களில் சிவாஜி கமல் ரஜினியோடு ஒப்பிடும் பொழுது பெரிய நடிகர்.
  ஆனால் சிவாஜி படம் கமல் ரஜினி படங்களை விட குறைவான நாள் ஒடி இருக்கிறது..
  
  இது போதும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.
  
  FYI,
  VNS only ran 100 days in chennai.
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/permanent/movies.asp
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Sun Jul 29 9:39:26 2007.

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  Quote:

  rajaram aNNE engE pOnAlum false information kudukka vENdiyathu

  
  Nerd,
  Read all posts once again, then you will understand about who has given wrong information.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Sun Jul 29 10:46:56 2007.

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  Dear Rajaram,
  
  My point was to just tell you that VR was not a washout movie and tac also meant the same. There had been numerous instances in Tamil cinema BO history when films of lesser stars have performed better than the biggies. Starting from NT, MGR period, we can point out this type of happenings in all eras and this surprises would continue to be there in the coming times also. In the same manner what Nerd was pointing out was you said that Pollathavan ran for only 50 days whereas it had a nearly 80 day run.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Jul 29 10:52:08 2007.

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  One thing for sure, this box office information has helped trace the audience reception for good films, spanning over years/decades. If VNS did cross 100 days, I would say that the then audience were zillion times better than the current lot who just go for some timepass popcorn stuff!
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Sun Jul 29 11:18:16 2007.

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  Murali sir,
  
  My intension is VNS did better business than VR and polladhavan and all those movies were not super hit.
  
  If 'wash out' word hurt you and TAC, I am sorry to that.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Jul 29 11:50:18 2007.

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  RajaRam wrote:

  80களில் சிவாஜி கமல் ரஜினியோடு ஒப்பிடும் பொழுது பெரிய நடிகர்.

  
  
  அதுக்கு அப்புறம் சிறிய நடிகர் ஆயிட்டாராக்கும் ?
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Jul 29 12:07:59 2007.

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  RajaRam wrote:

  http://www.tamilcinema.com/permanent/movies.asp

  
  
  You are giving this link as a proof ,according to it ,even Veerapandiya Kattabomman (1959) is not even 100 days movie,wash out
  
  

• From: smith1 on Mon Jul 30 4:01:06 2007.

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  to my knowledge VPKB was a silver jubliee film.
  
  

• From: smith1 on Mon Jul 30 4:02:41 2007.

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  murali,
  It is true that many sivaji films touched the 100 day mark in shanthi when they did not do so elsewhere.
  
  I mean specifically the ones after his 200th film - thirusoolam. He had many flops after that.
  
  

• From: tacinema on Mon Jul 30 11:01:50 2007.

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  RajaRam wrote:

  Murali sir, My intension is VNS did better business than VR and polladhavan and all those movies were not super hit. If 'wash out' word hurt you and TAC, I am sorry to that.

  
  
  RR:
  
  I am not hurt because of your claim that VRoopam was a wash out movie. Murali and I were saying that VRoopam was not a wash out and your claim was wrong.
  
  VNS was definitely a better movie than VR or Polladhavan. VNS deserved a better run and it did. But again we (NT fans) never claimed that VRoopam did a better business than VNS.
  
  note: can we get back to weekly movie discussion?
  
  Moderator: Could you please pick up NT's deiva magan for this
  week? I don't think we had enough discussions about this movie in NT's thread.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: RC on Mon Jul 30 11:26:14 2007.

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  Vishva roopam had good songs... The ones I remember
  
  1. enna yaarunnu nenachE
  2. Rajathi raajanukku raaNi mEle
  3. naan patta kadan eththanayO
  
  What are the other songs?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jul 30 11:27:18 2007.

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  Pls back to 'MooduPani'
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jul 30 11:37:09 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Pls back to 'MooduPani'

  
  
  better change to some other film so that most of them could discuss it
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jul 30 11:38:59 2007.

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  Raaja_rasigan,
  If you don't have anything to discuss ,just wait for SelvaKumar to announce next movie of the week.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jul 30 11:41:07 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  joe wrote: Pls back to 'MooduPani' better change to some other film so that most of them could discuss it

  
  
  I think the time came to change the movie title
  
  Selva
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Jul 30 11:41:50 2007.

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  Tacinema,
  
  The way this thread works is, you have to initiate a request to Selva. PM him with your choice. He would append it to the queue. And he puts them up in that order every week.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Jul 30 11:42:34 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Raaja_rasigan, If you don't have anything to discuss ,just wait for SelvaKumar to announce next movie of the week.

  
  
  idhukkuthan ovvoru muraiyum edhavadhu - moodu pani- pudhu seydhi irukkiradha endru indha threadai etti parkiraen...
  
  aanal idhile viswaroopam, varumaiyin niram sivappu, polladhavan ellam odikkondu irundhadhu
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jul 31 2:23:29 2007.

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  Kadamai Kanniyam Kattuppaadu
  
  Cast : SAtyaRaj, Nalini, Geetha, (anyone else)
  Music director :
  Director :
  
  P.S: I just list the movies that hubbers recommend. I think they might have their own reasons to list them. Well, From here onwards, let us wait for the hubber to justify the pick. (It is not mandatory though)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jul 31 2:23:56 2007.

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  Producer : Kamal
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jul 31 2:26:39 2007.

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  [dig]Just a request to RajaRam anne:
  The link you presented was so odd that it can kill the credibility of all other genuine information that you give. For e.g., in the same link see the third one and if u believe that site, it is upto u decide [/dig]
  
  Anyway, I am eager to know more info on KKK ! (how kamal went to produce a mvoie with SR as the hero then) Any info
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 2:27:37 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Producer : Kamal

  
  
  
  
  
  BTW, who requested this film?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 2:32:17 2007.

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  Director: Santhana Bharathy
  
  Raj kamal productions' favorite directors are SSR and SB. That could be the reason why Kamal produced it. Was there any talk that he was the first choice to play the main role? And he couldn't act due to clash of dates and further commitments?
  
  BTW, Raj kamal productions have given good chance for Satyaraj, Madhavan, Nasser, Revathy to perform!
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 3:05:57 2007.

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  It was a songless film & a remake of a mallu film.
  
  

• From: dell_gt on Tue Jul 31 3:16:56 2007.

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  did kamal sir have any guest apperance in that movie... cant remember...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jul 31 3:24:32 2007.

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  dell_gt wrote:

  did kamal sir have any guest apperance in that movie... cant remember...

  
  
  NO
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Jul 31 3:50:14 2007.

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  I just found out from this thread that Enakkul Oruvan did not do well. That's a shame! It was a decent movie.
  
  
  As for KKK. It ranks as one of my favourite Sathyaraj film. Of the trivias, I only remember Kamal saying in Sathyaraj's 25th Anniversary function that he went on to cast Sathyaraj in it despite many objections. That is what I call a good judgement.
  
  Honestly the protagonist of this movie is not your typical one. You won't be seeing much of this type of character either, simply because of his so-called moral values. He drinks, sleeps with prostitute and does not hesitate to break the rules. This is way before the cops of Kaakka Kaakka or Samy or all other glossy, politically correct type of these days (note that I am careful not including the recent famous cop )
  
  I haven't seen this movie for very long time, so I can't remember Sathyaraj's name, except that he is referred to as Karadi, I think. But it was a smashing performance. No holds barred - no polished image-no conscious action type of performance. It's in your face, take it or leave it type of role. Unfortunately, many viewers left it, especially when there were no songs.
  
  Sometimes I am sad that even Kamal never makes mention of this movie which I think was pretty daring for its time. It's risky (perhaps the risk factor prevented Kamal from doing it, plus it would not have been suitable for him, having just played typical cinematic cop in kakkichattai).
  
  This is one hell of a good movie. A good subject for discussion amongst Sathyaraj fans and I always try to bring this up whenever I can. Thanks Selva for bringing this movie in this thread.
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 4:00:56 2007.

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  KKK had a good run. It was not a flop. One of sathyaraj's best performances.
  
  Ennakkul oruvan was a remake of the rishi kapoor hit - farz. But the 2nd half (in tamil) was changed completely.
  
  

• From: sakthivel_cool on Tue Jul 31 4:22:09 2007.

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  dis role is tailor made for satyaraj...he did well in walter vetrivel,amaidi padai,other film with sukanya also..bt in dis film we see a more controlled performance..he does it like a real irrational police officer...i think dis is a cake walk for Kamalahassan...y he refused to do it? image problem????
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Jul 31 4:27:11 2007.

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  sakthivel_cool wrote:

  dis role is tailor made for satyaraj...he did well in walter vetrivel,amaidi padai,other film with sukanya also..bt in dis film we see a more controlled performance..he does it like a real irrational police officer...i think dis is a cake walk for Kamalahassan...y he refused to do it? image problem????

  
  
  I'd like to differ. In fact, I'd argue against it, but being a Kamal fan I am only slapping myself in front of many fellow Kamal fans. I leave this argument within myself.
  
  I'd say it's perfect for Rajini of late 70s/early 80s. But for that time, Sathyaraj was perfect. Good character acting than a lead performance.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jul 31 5:04:38 2007.

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  groucho007 wrote:

  It's in your face, take it or leave it type of role. Unfortunately, many viewers left it,

  
  Watched it long back so I don't remember it too well. I recall one scene where Satyaraj rings up Nizhalgal Ravi multiple times in the night. That was a prety good one
  
  

• From: sakthivel_cool on Tue Jul 31 5:07:49 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  sakthivel_cool wrote: dis role is tailor made for satyaraj...he did well in walter vetrivel,amaidi padai,other film with sukanya also..bt in dis film we see a more controlled performance..he does it like a real irrational police officer...i think dis is a cake walk for Kamalahassan...y he refused to do it? image problem???? I'd like to differ. In fact, I'd argue against it, but being a Kamal fan I am only slapping myself in front of many fellow Kamal fans. I leave this argument within myself. I'd say it's perfect for Rajini of late 70s/early 80s. But for that time, Sathyaraj was perfect. Good character acting than a lead performance.

  
  
  Don't wrry...nw they will slap u.. J/K
  i agree dat it wud hav suited Thalaivar or satyaraj...but kamal wud suit any role...dats da difference...dont forget manmadha leelai or Alavanthaan...wer kamal became da characters more than a lead role...
  
  

• From: Corleone on Tue Jul 31 5:10:12 2007.

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  groucho070 wrote:

  sakthivel_cool wrote: dis role is tailor made for satyaraj...he did well in walter vetrivel,amaidi padai,other film with sukanya also..bt in dis film we see a more controlled performance..he does it like a real irrational police officer...i think dis is a cake walk for Kamalahassan...y he refused to do it? image problem???? I'd like to differ. In fact, I'd argue against it, but being a Kamal fan I am only slapping myself in front of many fellow Kamal fans. I leave this argument within myself. I'd say it's perfect for Rajini of late 70s/early 80s. But for that time, Sathyaraj was perfect. Good character acting than a lead performance.

  
  
  Yes...U spoke my mind...it wud ve been a cake for rajini....but nevertheless sathyaraj did a wonderful job.
  
  I remember an interview of Sathyaraj few yrs back
  
  Host: Walter vetrivel pathi unga karuthu enna ? Police officerave vaazhnthurukeengannu palarum solranga, neenga enna solreenga ?
  Sathyaraj: (In his typical style) Ithellaam konjam overu....chumma chumma naane En pEra WALTER VETRIVEL, WALTER VETRIVEL nu adi thondaila irunthu kathuven, AnA police officer rolena athu KKK thaan....romba thatroopamaana role...enakEtha role
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 5:12:47 2007.

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  Please leave Kamal and his fans out of this. Thank you.
  
  To set things right, There is no role that Kamal can't do! Period.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Jul 31 5:19:33 2007.

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  I am never a fan of Walter Vetrivel. It's bad overacting. Sathyaraj is right, shouting "Walter! Walter Vetrivel!" each time as if the whole world is in love with his spittle does not qualify as "policekaranaaga vazhnthirukkiraar". This is an early example of fans falling in love with something stupid. This tradition is still practised with merriment by some fans of Tamil films. Sad.
  
  KKK is a great cinematic cop. I'd compare it to Hackman's performance as Popeye Doyle - dedicated cop, but ruthless and the type of person you don't want to meet in the street.
  
  Shaktivel, you forgot Kamal in Sigappu Rojakkal. You can see the type of anti-hero he can play.
  
  Thilak, Kamal produced this movie. We can't leave him out. As for being "no role he can't play", as a fan I'd like to say that (editedby my conscience as Kamal fan )
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Tue Jul 31 5:24:20 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Please leave Kamal and his fans out of this. Thank you. To set things right, There is no role that Kamal can't do! Period.

  
  
  Kamal hasnt & can never do mythological characters.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 5:27:04 2007.

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  Groucho,
  
  Sorry. That was for Sakthi who takes a dig at Kamal fans. Anyway, could see the humor of it. I agree that Kamal is the producer and this is very much a part of the discourse. About Kamal doing this role, he couldn't do then, after the heroic Kakhi Sattai. But I would say that Kamal could do a flawed character with ease. Not the way Sathyaraj did. But in Kamal's own way of bringing the character to life! That's my point
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 5:35:37 2007.

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  Nakeeran wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Please leave Kamal and his fans out of this. Thank you. To set things right, There is no role that Kamal can't do! Period. Kamal hasnt & can never do mythological characters.

  
  
  Albeit the Digression. This is overtly judgmental.
  
  This reminds me of those 'statements' which could have been made before!
  
  Kamal wouldn't pull off a dwarf!
  Kamal wouldn't pull off a ventriloquist!
  Kamal wouldn't pull off a serial killer!
  Kamal wouldn't pull off this...
  Kamal wouldn't pull off that..
  
  But, he has proved it wrong everytime. So, my 'judgmental' statement is more plausible than yours. I would say!
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jul 31 5:38:52 2007.

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  If more discussion needed on the capability of Kamal doing different roles, carry the discussions in existing Kamal threads.
  
  Let us get back to Kadama, Kanniyam, Kattupaadu
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 5:40:40 2007.

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  I presume that the title of "Kadama, Kanniyam, Kattupaadu " ultmately stands for Kamal. No wonder we talk about him.
  
  

• From: Corleone on Tue Jul 31 5:44:14 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  Nakeeran wrote: thilak4life wrote: Please leave Kamal and his fans out of this. Thank you. To set things right, There is no role that Kamal can't do! Period. Kamal hasnt & can never do mythological characters. Albeit the Digression. This is overtly judgmental. This reminds me of those 'statements' which could have been made before! Kamal wouldn't pull off a dwarf! Kamal wouldn't pull off a ventriloquist! Kamal wouldn't pull off a serial killer! Kamal wouldn't pull off this... Kamal wouldn't pull off that.. But, he has proved it wrong everytime. So, my 'judgmental' statement is more plausible than yours. I would say!

  
  
  
  
  U r right Thilak.
  Kamal generally absorbs and lives the character, so one cant say Kamal cant do any role until and unless Kamal tries and fails to depict that particular role.
  
  But the same holds true for rajini as well....as far as i know i havent seen rajini failing to perform a role
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Jul 31 5:44:35 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  I presume that the title of "Kadama, Kanniyam, Kattupaadu " ultmately stands for Kamal. No wonder we talk about him.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Jul 31 5:54:00 2007.

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  Friends,
  Let us get back to KKK
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 5:55:05 2007.

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  nakeeran,
  kamal has played the role of sathyavan in a malayalam film.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jul 31 6:02:01 2007.

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  Did the malayalam original have songs? I think IR is the MD, any info on BGM
  
  Selva i think Kitty too was in the cast
  
  Digression: just how many original stories the Malayaalam industry is providing!!!1 Amazing. From KKK [shud be even older] to current Kreedom, veeraapu....
  
  Now i understand why kamal rates Malayalam and bengali films as THE BEST in india. I think Malayalam Industry really has KAdamai Kanniyam Kattupaadu and the Veeraappu to wear the Kereedom
  
  

• From: kannannn on Tue Jul 31 6:15:03 2007.

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  As Groucho said, this movie somehow brings to mind 'French Connection'. Both are cop roles at their best. A particular scene I remember had Satyaraj beating a rowdy inside his jeep and to drown his cries, has a constable shouting through the megaphone "Andha neela car orama eduppa, auto jananga varanga paaru vazhi vidu.." It would be a crime not to mention Geetha. She played her part extremely well. Pity she wasn't used well in Tamil. If there is one thing I didn't like it was the unnecessary blowing up of vehicles in the climax. That stuck out like a sore thumb in an otherwise engaging and superb movie.
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 6:15:17 2007.

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  No, kitty made his debut in nayakan. (I think).
  
  IR did the BGM for KKK.
  
  It is not only kamal but the general perception among film knowledgeable soucres is that mallu & bengali films are natural & stick to their nativity a lot.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Jul 31 6:36:53 2007.

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  I would say Kamal is testing the waters, with KKK, which will be a precursor to Kuruthi Punal. His own take on French Connection-esque cop movie, Soora Samharam was not well received I remember (I hope I am wrong).
  
  So, for Kamal, KKK is the first part of his own gritty cop trilogy KKK, SS, KP. What do you think?
  
  As I mentioned, using Sathyaraj for the role shows good judgement on Kamal and his director, as Sathyaraj is fresh from doing all-out villain roles. The memory is still there with the audience and they can accept a cop with questionable standing on ethics like his here.
  
  I can't remember the explosion in the finale. At that time it was probably new, but it doesn't work now because we have been seeing too many cars and 4 wheelers jumping 25 feet in the air from the 90s to now, instead of heroes jumping 25 feet in the air as in the 80s.
  
  KKK is an important milestone. Kudos to the original scriptwriter of the Malayalam film. To repeat an earlier question, was there any song in the Malayalam flick?
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 7:17:40 2007.

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  Yes, kamal said that SS was inspired by french connection.
  
  What inspiration, only kamal knows.
  
  There were rumours that though sathyaraj had turned hero, he agreed to play the villain's role in vikram. In return, kamal had promised to produce a film with satyaraj as hero. That was KKK.
  
  How much truth was in it is anybody's guess.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue Jul 31 8:58:42 2007.

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  Groucho, sakala
  
  The original " Aavanazhi " did not have any songs. This was written by a famous script writer T.Damodharan and directed by I.V. Sasi. This came in 1986 (KKK released in 1987) and it had two sequels " Inspector Balram" (Incidentally the hero character's name was Balram, which was carried over in Tamil also) which came out in 1991 and the third one as late as last year which was titled "Balram Vs Tharadas " (Here they took another character called Tharadas, an underworld Don from another IVSasi film called Athirathiram) and both the roles were played by Mammootty.
  
  Coming back to the original, with all due credit to Sathyaraj, it must be said that Mammootty was outstanding. This film's story had been inspired from a real life incident that happened in Kerala during emergency(1975-77). Rajan, a REC Calicut student was arrested and it resulted in his lock up death. This issue was hushed up. It came out after emergency was lifted. Because of this incident, K.Karunakaran who had become the CM in March 1977, had to resign because he was the Home Minister during emergency. He resigned and in his place came AK Antony.
  
  Sorry if I have digressed.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Tue Jul 31 9:59:49 2007.

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  Quote:

  [dig]Just a request to RajaRam anne: The link you presented was so odd that it can kill the credibility of all other genuine information that you give. For e.g., in the same link see the third one and if u believe that site, it is upto u decide [/dig]

  
  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Anyway, I am eager to know more info on KKK ! (how kamal went to produce a mvoie with SR as the hero then) Any info

  
  
  satyaraj started to act in hero role since 1985(chaavi - 1985,kadalorakkavithaigal-1986). when kamal asked satyaraj to do villan role in vikram(1986), without any hesitation satyaraj acted in that movie.
  
  for that kindness kamal gave chance to him in his home production and movie became super hit(it ran 125 days in madurai sugapriya theatre).
  
  
  Nazar did excellent performance in devarmahan and got good name from both public and media.
  because of that kamal gave hero role in 'Mahalir mattum' which became super hit and ran 150 days in madurai ambigai theatre.
  
  when kamal approached madhavan for 'Anbe sivam' he agreed to do second hero role(In 2002 madhavan was hottest hero due to huge success of 'Minnale' and 'Run' )
  because of that kamal gave chance to Madhavan in 'Naladamayanthi' which did average business(ran around 60 days)
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 10:13:20 2007.

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  I think naladamayanthi bombed badly. It barely managed a 1 month run in chennai.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jul 31 11:23:08 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Groucho, sakala The original " Aavanazhi " did not have any songs. This was written by a famous script writer T.Damodharan and directed by I.V. Sasi. This came in 1986 (KKK released in 1987) and it had two sequels " Inspector Balram" (Incidentally the hero character's name was Balram, which was carried over in Tamil also) which came out in 1991 and the third one as late as last year which was titled "Balram Vs Tharadas " (Here they took another character called Tharadas, an underworld Don from another IVSasi film called Athirathiram) and both the roles were played by Mammootty. Coming back to the original, with all due credit to Sathyaraj, it must be said that Mammootty was outstanding. This film's story had been inspired from a real life incident that happened in Kerala during emergency(1975-77). Rajan, a REC Calicut student was arrested and it resulted in his lock up death. This issue was hushed up. It came out after emergency was lifted. Because of this incident, K.Karunakaran who had become the CM in March 1977, had to resign because he was the Home Minister during emergency. He resigned and in his place came AK Antony. Sorry if I have digressed. Regards

  
  
  Not at all Sir... IMO u have the one who discussed in detail about KKK.......
  
  I thought of saying Inspector Balram is the character name for hero who as a policeman uses a bicycle as his vehicle
  
  

• From: RC on Tue Jul 31 11:35:46 2007.

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  smith1 wrote:

  KKK had a good run. It was not a flop. One of sathyaraj's best performances. Ennakkul oruvan was a remake of the rishi kapoor hit - farz. But the 2nd half (in tamil) was changed completely.

  
  
  I believe, it is karz!
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 11:36:56 2007.

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  yes, karz, not farz. Farz was a jeetendra starrer.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Tue Jul 31 11:58:33 2007.

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  KKK - moondru ezhuthhu - engal moochu
  
  top tucker movie - sathyarasu super act . kamal produced the movie . maaberum kalaignar mattum alla avar, nalla rasigarum kooda .
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Jul 31 12:06:59 2007.

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  It was one of the very few tamil movies without songs - the others being andha naal, vanna kanavugal & kuruthipunal.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jul 31 12:14:31 2007.

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  smith1 wrote:

  It was one of the very few tamil movies without songs - the others being andha naal, vanna kanavugal & kuruthipunal.

  
  
  Airport (by sathyaraj again)
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 12:21:53 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  smith1 wrote: It was one of the very few tamil movies without songs - the others being andha naal, vanna kanavugal & kuruthipunal. Airport (by sathyaraj again)

  
  
  My avatar?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Jul 31 12:35:13 2007.

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  thilak4life wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: smith1 wrote: It was one of the very few tamil movies without songs - the others being andha naal, vanna kanavugal & kuruthipunal. Airport (by sathyaraj again) My avatar?

  
  
  idhula vasaname illaye
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 12:39:42 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: raaja_rasigan wrote: smith1 wrote: It was one of the very few tamil movies without songs - the others being andha naal, vanna kanavugal & kuruthipunal. Airport (by sathyaraj again) My avatar? idhula vasaname illaye

  
  
  PadamE pesumE
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jul 31 12:49:48 2007.

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  smith1 wrote:

  I think naladamayanthi bombed badly. It barely managed a 1 month run in chennai.

  it was a NO LOSS-NO PROFIT movie ! or maybe marginal profit
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Jul 31 14:01:38 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  smith1 wrote: I think naladamayanthi bombed badly. It barely managed a 1 month run in chennai. it was a NO LOSS-NO PROFIT movie ! or maybe marginal profit

  
  
  Why would they remake it in hindi if it was a flop?
  
  

• From: smith1 on Wed Aug 1 3:34:28 2007.

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  That is what even i was wondering. Needless to say, it fared worse in hindi too.
  
  But U have forerunners. KB's unnaal mudiyum thambi was a remake of the chiru film rudraveena which had bombed.
  
  UMT also bombed.
  
  

• From: Cinefan on Wed Aug 1 9:25:17 2007.

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  smith1 wrote:

  That is what even i was wondering. Needless to say, it fared worse in hindi too. But U have forerunners. KB's unnaal mudiyum thambi was a remake of the chiru film rudraveena which had bombed. UMT also bombed.

  
  
  
  UMT was one of those movies that Kamal did for 'gratitude'
  
  Rudra Veena won a national award(not sure which category).
  
  Not sure why KB chose to remake it in Tamil.
  
  

• From: smith1 on Wed Aug 1 9:57:34 2007.

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  Actually kamal had probs with KB from the start itself as he was skeptical abt how a flop film will work in tamil.
  
  In an interview on DD, KB even asked him as to why he did not show much interest while doing the film. Kamal wisely skipped the Q & chose to answer the next Q.
  
  Kamal was proved right in the end as far as the B.O results were concerned. But it was a good film on the whole, though quite preachy.
  
  KB never worked with kamal after that.
  
  

• From: madhus369 on Wed Aug 1 11:16:21 2007.

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  In one of his interviews, Kamal mentioned that some of his experimental movies are a hit, while some of his commercial movies end up being flops. He cited 'Virumandi' as an example of the former and 'Nala Damayanthi' as an example for the latter.
  
  Coming to the topic, this was probably Satyaraj's best performance (close to 'Vedham Pudhidhu'). But due to my age when I was watching this, the scene that remained etched was the revolting 'vaandhi' scene of Satyaraj
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Aug 7 0:15:55 2007.

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  Rajapart RangaDurai
  
  cast:
  Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan
  Srikanth
  Actress
  
  Composers: M S Viswanathan
  Singers: T M Sundara Rajan, P Susheela,t M Sundara Rajan
  Lyricists:: Kanadasan
  
  Hope the hubber who nominated this can post about this more ! I couldnt find more details on the net
  
  

• From: pistha on Tue Aug 7 0:34:38 2007.

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  Actress : Usha Nandhini
  
  Villain : M.N Nambiyar
  
  Other Actors : V.K.Ramaswamy, Srikanth,Ramadoss, Akilandom
  
  Excellent film i watched more than 10 Times in TV
  
  Excellent Performance by Sivaji, Excellent Songs and story
  
  screenplay
  
  Especially Ammama Thambi Endru Nambi Avan Unnai Valarthan Song
  
  amazing Performance by Sivaji
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Rajapart RangaDurai cast: Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan Srikanth Actress Composers: M S Viswanathan Singers: T M Sundara Rajan, P Susheela,t M Sundara Rajan Lyricists:: Kanadasan Hope the hubber who nominated this can post about this more ! I couldnt find more details on the net

  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 7 0:36:59 2007.

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  .
  
  Film : Rajapart Rangadurai (1973)
  Cast : 'Sivaji' Ganesan, Usha Nandhini, M.N. Nambinar, V.K.R. & others
  Music: M.S. Viswanathan
  Dir. : P. Madhavan
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 7 0:39:06 2007.

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  selva, happy?
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 7 0:45:13 2007.

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  as pistha says, ammamma thambi endru nambi song is simply mindblowing.
  
  
  
  there is also a child version of the same song.
  
  there are a few other drama songs like:
  
  kaayatha kaanagaththa
  
  kaalgal nOgudhammaa
  
  vandhEn vandhanam
  
  and of course the predecessor to unakkenna mElE nindraai in the song sirikkirEn sirikkirEn sirippu varala.
  
  and then the lovely romantic, madhana maaligaiyil mandhira maalaigalaam...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Aug 7 0:56:09 2007.

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  Songs are the only thing i could remember.
  
  1. Ammamma thambi endru nambi
  2. Madana Maaligayil (Thanks NOV for enlightening that this song from this movie )
  3. Naan Sirikiren sirikiren
  
  My contribution is over. Waiting for others
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 7 1:20:26 2007.

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  RajaPart Rangathurai - Good Movie ,though it is not in my list of Top 10 NT movies
  
  As usual NT gave an excellent performance.
  
  High light of the movie is - Thirupoor Kumaran episode
  
  One scene reminds in my mind.
  
  NT's brother insulted NT a lot .On his brother's marriage function ,NT came and just sit in a chair and gave a plain look .Camera focus of NT's graceful face many seconds .I think NT's brother got emotional by just NT's look.(Murali sir,give us more thoughts on this scene.)
  
  Songs are also highlights mentioned by others.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 7 1:24:16 2007.

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  Naan sirikkiren sirikkiren - In this song NT came as a buffon througout the song ,he is with mask and end of the song he shook his face (crying) ..When Kamal did the same in Apporva sagothargal (Unnai ninachen) ,it reminded me this song.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Aug 7 1:29:28 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  selva, happy?

  
  Obviously. Where did u get these things? I couldn't find them in GOOGLE search
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Aug 7 1:30:10 2007.

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  btw, Thanks Pistha & NOV for completing the LIST
  
  

• From: Kumar on Tue Aug 7 1:33:04 2007.

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  There is a classic scene when NT puts up a play to generate interest in drama to keep the troupe and the theatre going bust. NT is standing on stage in a pose, and the audience stare back a little puzzled. Then the boos come out and people start walking out. Then NT goes into action. In his booming voice, he recites:
  
  "To be or not to be...."
  
  It's Shakespeare's Hamlet!
  
  The audience stop, return to their seats and start cheering.
  
  Pretty cool scene.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 7 1:36:44 2007.

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  வந்தே மாதரம் என்னும் வார்த்தையாலே
  
  தேசத்தை ஒன்றாக்கி வைத்தாரே
  
  உத்தமராம காந்தியண்ணல்
  
  அவரை மறக்காதீர்; அன்புடைய பெரியோரே !
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 7 1:38:41 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  couldn't find them in GOOGLE search

  
  
  Do google search in unicode tamil..you will find tamil wikipedia page.
  
  http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9C%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%88
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Aug 7 1:41:12 2007.

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  ராஜபார்ட் ரங்கதுரை' (1973) படத்தில் பகத்சிங் வேடத்தில் சிவாஜி பாடும் "இன்குலாப் ஜிந்தாபாத்; இந்துஸ்தான் ஜிந்தாபாத்.." எனத் தொடங்கும் பாடலில்
  
  " எங்கள் பொன்னாடு எந்நாளும் எம்மோடு
  
  கொள்ளை செய்வோரை பழி செய்வோம் கூண்டோடு
  
  ..............................................
  
  ............................................
  
  தாயின் கண்ணீரே வழிகாட்டும் புதுவெள்ளம்
  
  நாய்கள் வெளியேற வழி சொல்லும் அவள் உள்ளம்.
  
  இந்நாட்டை ஆள்கின்ற திருடர்கள் ஓயாமல்
  
  தேசீய நெஞ்சங்கள் ஓயாது..."
  
  
  - என வரிகள் வரும். பிரிட்டிஷ் அரசை சாடுவதாக பாடலின் காட்சியமைப்பு இருந்தாலும் உண்மையில் அவை அப்போதைய திமுக ஆட்சியாளர்களுக்கு எதிராக சாட்டையை சொடுக்குவதாகவே ரசிகப் பிள்ளைகளாலும், தேசீய உள்ளங்களாலும் அர்த்தம் கொள்ளப்பட்டு ரசிக்கப்பட்ட வரிகள். அதே பாடலில் காமராஜர் தலைமையில் காங்கிரஸ் ஆட்சி அமைய கட்சியினர் திரள வேண்டுமென்கிற அழைப்பையும் விடுவார் சிவாஜி.
  
  
  " எல்லோர்க்கும் வாழ்வென்னும் கர்மவீரர் பின்னாலே
  
  இந்நாட்டின் இளைஞர்கள் எழ வேண்டும்.
  
  பகைவரை விட மாட்டோம் - வலைதனில் விழ மாட்டோம்
  
  ..........................................................
  
  ..........................................................
  
  துணிந்திடும் மனம் உண்டு; சுதந்திரக் கொடியுண்டு
  
  இளைஞர்கள் படை உண்டு; தலைவனின் துணை உண்டு
  
  இங்கே ஒரு காந்தி இருக்கின்றார் அவர் வாழ்க
  
  தெற்கே ஒரு காந்தி வருகின்றார் அவர் வாழ்க! "
  
  http://www.thinnai.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=70705171&format=html
  
  

• From: smith1 on Tue Aug 7 3:13:49 2007.

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  There is another scene when his brother srikanth tells him to act as his brother.
  
  NT tells him " Naan ella veshamum potrukken pa. Naan podada ore vesham en sondha thambikku annana nadikarthu. Adaiyum pottudren."
  
  The next scene wher he disguises as a rich man & comes to his brother's in-laws house.
  
  

• From: mr_karthik on Tue Aug 7 3:59:13 2007.

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  Movie: Rajapart Rangadurai
  Song : AMMAMMA... THAMBI ENDRU NAMBI
  Lyric: "Kaviyarasar"
  Music : "Mellisai Mannar"
  Singer : "Kural Viththagar"
  Starring: "Nadigar Thilagam"
  Camera : P.N.Sundaram
  Producer: V.C.GuganAthan
  Direction: P.Madhavan
  
  Whenever I want to write about a great song, my mind automatically jump to 'Nadigar Thilagam' Shivaji's songs. The one I selected now, definitely will be a favourite of most of the Tamil cinema fans.
  
  The song "AmmammA thambi endru nambi" has two versions, one in the beginning of the movie, when Rangadurai and his brother and sister are small boys, and it was written as a patriotic song. The second one (which we are going to discuss now) is mingled with the personal life of Rangadurai. Indha pAdalil(vazhakkam pola) Kannadasan, MSV, TMS, Shivaji... ellOrum neeyA nAnA pArkkalAm endRu pOtti pOduvArgaL. AdhanAl nammakku innum oru virundhu.
  
  This story has a heavy storylined subject, telling the struggling for day-to-day life of a Drama Artist Rangadurai. (adikkadi thiraiyil pArkAtha vidhyAsamAna story). Oru pakkam ChellamAga valarththa thannudaiya thambi (Sreekanth) thAnAgavE oru panakkAra pennai maNandhu kondu nirandharamAga pirindhu pOi vitta sOgam. Innoru pakkam chellamAga vaLarththa thangai (Jaya), thannudaiya maamiyAr (C.K.Saraswathi) matRum kaNavanAl (Sasikumar) veettai vittu viratti adikkappatta vEdhanai.
  
  Indha nEraththilthAn innoru idiyAga, thangaiyin kanavanukku innoru pennai thirumanam seyya iruppathAga aRindhu Rangadurai (Shivaji) maNam udinadhu pOvAr (through an invitation from brides father, who is already a friend for Rangadurai, but does not know that groom already got married with Shivaji's sister). Shivaji will torn that invitation and throw. But, without his notice, his sister Seetha (Jaya) will collect and join them and get shocked to know her husband is going for second marriage. She tell his brother:
  
  "AnnA...enakku orE oru AsaithAn annA. Chinna annanai pArkka AsaiyA irukku. azhaichikittu vAngannA".
  
  When he was waiting in T.K.Bagavathy's (brother's mAmanAr) house, His brother (Sreekanth) and his modern wife (Kumari padmini) come from Table-Tennis court. On seeing his brother, Rangadurai expects one of these question:
  
  "AnnA...neengaLA..eppa vandheenga?" (with affection)
  
  (or)
  
  "AnnA... ingE yEn vandheenga?" (with anger).
  
  But Sreekanth asks
  "YAr Neenga?".
  
  Thambiyin indha kELviyil Shivaji appadiyE noRungi pOvAr.
  
  When he decided to leave from there, Sreekanth's father-in-law T.K.Bagavathy, knowing he is a drama actor, compells him to sing a song for him. Shivaji will take the two Table Tennis rackets from the teapoy, using as 'thALam' and start his song, with old pallavi, which he sang with his brother and sister for begging in the train.
  
  "AmmammA thambi endRu nambi avan unnai vaLarthAn
  thAi endRum thandhai endRum thanni ninaithAn
  avan unakkAga vAzhndha uLLam allavo"
  
  each word in the thogaiyarA will be a power packed one, describing his previous and present life of Rangadurai.
  
  "Kaiyil vaiththu kAthirundhAl kAladiyil kAthirukkum
  nandRi mikka nAigaL uLLa nAdu
  idhil sondhamindRi bandhamindRi, vandha vazhi ninaivumindRi
  piLLaigaLum piRandhirukkum veedu"
  
  then he put thALam with the table tennis racket... wow what a natural (pAvi mavanE, engayyA kathikittE idhellAm), then continue the charanam:
  
  "Rama nAdagathil moondRu thambigaLin uLLam kandEnE
  nalla BhArathathil nAlu thambigaLai nAnum kandEnE
  adhu nAdagamA....idhu nAdagamA...
  ingu nAn kAnum vEshangaL konjamallavE
  nAn idhu pondRa vEshathil vandhathillaiyE"
  
  In next charanam, he will narrate the story about her sister who came back from her husband, permenantly.
  
  "thangai ennum iLaiya kandRu thAi veedu vandhadhendRu
  ennudaiya nAdagathil kAtchi
  avaL koNdavanai pirindhu vandhu kOlam kondu niRpadhanai
  kaNdadhaR innoruvan sAtchi"
  
  Again thALam with tennis bat, with very closeup in three differetn angle.
  
  "kaNNil neer peruga seethai nindRa nilai kannil therigiRathu
  aNNan koNda thuyar thambi latchumanan kannil vizhugirathu
  adhu pAsamanRO... idhu vEshamndRO....
  avan rAjAthi rAjanukku piLLai allavO
  indha rAjapArt rangadurai yEzhai allavo"
  
  adhu eppadi, verum paththu varigaLukkuL andha situation muzhuvathaiyum, adhuvum purAna idhigAsa mErkOLgaLudan, indha KannadAsan kondu vandhAr...?. Thatswhy still we are talking about him, and life long........
  
  It is just an indoor song, that too Shivaji acts by just sitting in the sofa. But Camera will roll in various angles with crane shots. Sreekanth will stand on top of the stairs, Kumari Padmini will stand in one corner. Bagavathy sitting opposite to Shivaji. Camera covers all. In the meantime too much close-up shots for Shivaji. P.Madhavan and P.N.Sundram shooted with perfect lighting and super close-ups. (No surprise, both of them moulded by the great Sreedhar).
  
  After shivaji left from there, Bagavathy will tell "Idhu Rangadurai vAzhkaiyil nadandha kathaiyO allathu nadandhukittu irukkiRa kadhaiyO, andha AndavanukkuthAn theriyum".
  
  One of the memorable songs, evergreen and worthwatching.
  
  After the song finished, Shivaji will return home, without showing his sadness to his sister Jaya (an actress with childish face and innocent smile). She will ask :"Annaa, chinna annan varalaiyaa?"
  
  Shivaji will reply with happy mood (but sad in heart): "Adhai yemmaa ketkire... ennai paarththadhum odi vandhu ennai kattikittu 'annaa eppadi irukeenga, thangachi eppadi irukkaa, anni eppadi irukkaanga' appadeennu paasaththai kottinaan. Andha neram paarththu avanudaiya maamanaar vandhu business vishayamaa velinaadu poganumnu sollittaar. Unmaiyil thambikku velinaadu poga ishtam illai. Ungalaiyellaam paarkanumnuthaan aasai. Naanthaan paraviylle, poyittu vaapaa. Thangachiyaiyum anniyaiyum appuram paarthukkalaamnu solli anuppitten" (then casualaaga Jayavidam) "ammaadi konjam coffee kondu vaa"
  
  After jaya left from there, Usha Nandhini will aks Shivaji: "Yenga, unga thmabi ungalai romba avamaana paduthittaaraa?. Unga kannileye theriyuthey".
  
  Suddenly Shivaji's face will turn with sad expression: "Avamaana paduthiyindhaa kooda naan thaangikittu iruppen Alamelu. Aanaa avan ennai yaarunne theriyaatha maadhiri nadichittaan Alamelu" closing his mouth with the towel and cry.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Aug 7 4:08:28 2007.

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  you brought the scene right before my eyes!
  enna oru acting, enna oru paattu!
  
  you are 100% right abt kannadhasan
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 7 5:50:08 2007.

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  mr_karthik wrote:

  It is just an indoor song, that too Shivaji acts by just sitting in the sofa.

  
  
  Exactly! That is the movie magic of the olden days. You have a great performer, so you just let him do it.
  
  These days, song sequences are mostly made by editors. But I don't want to bitch about new movies.
  
  Thanks for that write-up Mr. Karthik. Wonderful post.
  
  What can I say about this movie? This story has been remade many times, some of them are good, like Rajini's Padikathavan and DarmaDurai, and some are bad and I am not too bothered to name them.
  
  My favourite scene is exactly what was written above. It's a beautiful moving scene (echoes of similar scene where NT visits JJ in Pattikaadaa Pattanamaa). About how an actor, who can't act in real life, is forced to act in real life. Everything is in that song, contained, waiting to explode.
  
  "The world is a stage, and men are the players". and NT sees this painfully during this episode. To be stabbed in the back by friend is one, but by one's own brother, the knife will not just pierce through your back's skin, but through the ribs and direct into the heart. The song, the performance shows that a lot.
  
  Having been through so much pain in his life, it's only natural that he takes on a role that can be risky - concerning life. And when he does the final scene, you know already of what is going to happen. Like Karnan, his Ranggathurai is just a dead man walking since the episode quoted above. There is nothing else for him, except to give it all for the art that he had lived and made living with. He does just that.
  
  An amazing movie, coming from NT's peak period. Brilliant suggestion, Selva. Thanks. I hope Murali-sar will come in with his explanation.
  
  Before signing off, I have one displeasure with this movie. The Hamlet recital. They should have allowed NT to use his own voice. Never mind the fact that it will have Indian accent, the performance felt phony with Joseph's voice.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Aug 7 6:49:33 2007.

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  One of NT's best
  
  தன்மானமுள்ள மனிதனாக வாழ்ந்து காட்டியிருப்பார்
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Tue Aug 7 10:08:46 2007.

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  Rajapart rangadhurai- a powerful performance by NT with able support by VKR,T.K.Bagavathy,Nambiar ,Srikanth
  
  only odd thing was Usha nandini
  
  
  வார்த்தை ஒன்னு வாய் வரைக்கும் வந்து வந்து போவதென்ன
  ஆமாம் பாராட்ட வார்தைகளே கிடைக்கவில்லை
  அதற்கு அப்பாற்பட்டது நடிகர் திலகத்தின் நடிப்பு
  
  

• From: RC on Tue Aug 7 10:33:47 2007.

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  Excellent writeup, mr_karthik! I saw this movie [again] few weeks ago on KTV and your writing brought the scenes back to me.
  
  சிவாஜி ஒரு சகாப்தம்!
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Aug 8 2:01:29 2007.

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  mathana maaligai song was very famous ,heard very often with Ilangai Vaanoli.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 8 6:59:15 2007.

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  Thanks JOE. I did search for this movie in UNICODE TAMIL and the results are more compared to the regular search. btw, There is no entry for this movie in IMDB. Wondering why ?
  
  

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  About the topic, I wish I had watched this film. I would check it out if KTV or some other channel shows it one of these days.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Thu Aug 9 11:13:12 2007.

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  Selva,
  
  Good pick. Sorry I could visit only today as I was not keeping well.
  
  NOV,
  
  Photographs dhool Kilapeeteenge (though taken from net).
  
  Karthik,
  
  You brought out the scenes. I remember saradha writing about the same scene but in Tamil and she would have finished the post "Andha 2001, July 21 varamale poyirrukka koodatha" . True.
  
  Groucho,
  
  As you said this came when NT was at his peak. As happened to many NT movies, this film also suffered due to lack of gaps between NT films. Rajapart can be classified as the film that affected and at the same time got affected. Yes the last release of 1973 (22.12.1973), it affected Gowravam which had just completed 50 days and Rajapart in turn got affected by Sivakamiyin Selvan within 5 weeks (SS released on 26.01.1974), not to speak about the guest role movie Manidharul Manickam (your favourite) which came some 15 days before RR. ( MM released on 07.12.1973).
  
  Coming to the movie as everybody had pointed out it was a power packed performance and in fact NT very much got involved in to this movie. In fact during the shooting (even when he was acting for other movies) he was always humming Ammamma song, it was said
  Since the backdrop of the story was stage, it was said that NT really had a trip down the memory lane while doing this film.
  
  The film also gave him ample chances to take up Perunthailavar's name and Congress messages in the movie. Just as Joe had written, Inquilab song itself was written like that. It had two lines
  
  Nallorgal tham ullam Navasakthi Peravendum
  Aarpatta Alai Osai Varavendum.
  
  Here Navasakthi was Congress newspaper and Alai Osai run by Veloor Narayanan was also supporting Congress.
  
  Same way the lines that Joe had mentioned
  
  Thayin Kanneere vazhikaatum Puthu Vellam
  
  was effectively used later in 1980 when Indira fought against Janata and came back to Power.
  
  This line would be followed by
  
  Munooru Thuppaki suttalum sethalum
  Naan konda ennngak Maarathu
  
  which always evoked thunderous applause.
  
  Other political overtones were also there. When the fire put up by Nambiar destroys the Drama stage, VKR would come and say
  
  " Rangadurai, kavalayai vidu. Namma pasangalai vitta Kottakayai enna, Kottayai-ye Katti mudichuteevaanga"
  
  The climax where NT comes as Tiruppur Kumaran would say,
  
  " Naatile Perunthalaivar irukirar. Koodiya seegiram Kottayi-le engal moovarna kodi pattoli veesi parakkathan pokirathu" .
  
  Recently there was a news item in paper which said the memorial errected in Tiruppur town for Kumaran shows Kumaran bearing a bullet mark in his body, whereas actually he died of lathicharghe and head injury. some one had replied that in the movie RR, in the climax, NT is shot dead and the person who sculpted the memorial was led to believe that Kumaran died because of firing. Again proof of NT's performance.
  
  Groucho, as for as Hamlet dialogue is concerned, what I heard was it was NT who insisted on Prof.Sundaram (popularly known as Shakespeare Sundaram) to speak that dialogue on behalf of him. While everyone associated with the movie wanted NT to speak, he refused it seems.
  
  Then Madana Maaligai. It was style personified. Our fellow hubber Mr.Raghavendran in his nadigarthilagam website had added a bit of this song when you click RR. It was a song whose tune was decided by a coffee boy. It is said that MSV, VCG and Kannadasan had a tough time in deciding the tune when the boy who came to serve the coffee said "Sir, andha 5 vathu, 7 vathu tune nalla irukku". They mixed those tunes and that's why we had different tunes for saranams.
  
  Thought of keeping it short, but it became lengthy. As it happens the urge to watch it again increases. Lets see.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: tacinema on Thu Aug 9 21:15:35 2007.

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  I have one question related to RR. Did original version of RR have Madana maaligaiyil song? I heard that when producer and director watched the movie during pre-release rush, they felt that the movie was too emotional/sentimental and they wanted a duet song. It seems they shot the song separately and added it in the movie. Was it true? May be, Murali can answer this question. In any case, Madana maaligaiyil is a great song and our NT looks very handsome.
  
  RR was definitely a good movie and I am glad many people here liked it. For some reasons, when I watched this movie, it didn't impress me. I felt the movie lacked much needed substance and it was too dramatic. I guess I am minority here.
  
  I will watch it again and hope, it will be interesting this time.
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Thu Aug 9 23:19:04 2007.

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  http://www.techsatish.com/2007/08/rajapart-rangadurai-tamil-movie.html
  
  Video link for the nice movie RR !
  
  One scene which I like watching is that when he hears the news of the death of his sister. He has to perform before kids like a joker . How he manages to perform despite the loss shows his greatness.
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha on Fri Aug 10 3:46:02 2007.

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  Very sad movie
  
  Ive watched it once, I DONT THINK I CAN WATCH it again
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Fri Aug 10 10:51:21 2007.

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  tac,
  
  What you heard is not correct. Madhana Maaligai song was there well before. But the point you noted was correct. To give a happy diversion to the fans and public, the song was picturised in a grandeour set and if you notice, NT would have a different hairdo as Rangadurai (befitting a stage artist) but for this dream sequence, he would sport a style resembling Raja and Vasantha Maaligai. Infact, even the political nature of dialogues was intended for the same reason but it was done smoothly because the storyline gave ample scope for that.
  
  Joe,
  
  I have not seen RR in theatre for a long time and whenever it came in TV, I could not watch it fully. So the scene you requested, I am not able to bring out now. Once I get it, I will do it in NT thread.
  
  SP,
  
  I was looking foward for your comments but it is surprising to see what you had written.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: RC on Fri Aug 10 16:03:15 2007.

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  Downloadable links for Rajapart Rangadurai are available in TechSatish.com
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Aug 14 6:14:57 2007.

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  Murali sar, thanks for your post as usual. I still wish that NT himself had done the Hamlet monologue. But I guess, out of respect for language, he might have thought that it's better to have it left to the professional, just like playback singing is better left to people like TMS. Enna seyirathu, it's a kurai for me.
  
  SP, you get sad so easily. But despite what people usually think, even the sad movies have their moments. RR has many light moments, especially concerning scenes amongst the troupe, or with Usha Nandhini (she's lot more livelier here than in Gauvaram - the only weak link in that movie). There are also teeth gritting moment, like the initial confrontation with Nambiar (who suprisingly melts towards the end). So SP, watch it again when you get the time, there are much more than the sad parts.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Aug 14 10:11:34 2007.

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  Must say : for the nice discussion here.
  
  ---
  Anyway, Time for the next movie
  
  http://www.cinesouth.com/cgi-bin/filmography/newfilmdb.cgi?name=pulan%20visaranai
  
  Pulan visaranai
  
  ( 1990 )
  Director ....... R.K.selvamani
  Producer ....... R.sundarraj
  Hero ....... Vijayakanth
  Heroine ....... Rupini
  
  Actors
  
  Anandraj
  K.raj balaji
  M.N.nambiar
  Peeli sivam
  Radharavi
  Sarathkumar
  Senthil
  Vasanth
  Vijaya krishnaraj
  
  
  Actress
  
  Jayalakshmi
  Kalaiselvi
  Kamala kamesh
  Lalitha kumari
  Sonia
  Uma
  Vaishnavi
  
  Music director ....... Ilayaraja
  
  Lyricist ....... Gangai amaran
  
  Screenplay ....... R.K.selvamani
  
  Dialog ....... Liquatalikhan
  
  Editor ....... G.jayachandran
  
  Photography ....... Ravi yadhav
  
  Art ....... G.k J.K.
  Country: India
  Language ....... Tamil
  Censor date ....... 12-01-1990
  Release date ....... 14-01-1990
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Aug 14 12:26:17 2007.

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  Good selection...
  
  my views later
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Tue Aug 14 13:10:03 2007.

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  Tat was a wonderful Choice .....One of the movies of Vijayakanth which i enjoyed watching ....
  
  i still remember ...... i watched it in theatre - Ramba/Oorvasi - the theatre owner's son was my class mate, he had given us a special box show for viewing the movie
  
  Well .... about the movie .... was a different subject and an approach for a VJkanth movie .... the character which was played by Anandraj was believed to be a real life character - a person named Auto Shankar ... i guess ........... Sarathkumar's intro as a VILLIAN in this movie ... was really awesome .... he didnt have much but for the fight during the climax ....
  
  Am not sure if this is an inspired story ... coz this talks about a hospital which was involved in a criminal act ..........
  
  The bullet travelling scene which was picturized very differently during that time ..... was good
  
  The finding of bodies in the walls - was scened earlier with Nooraavadhu Naal too ...... but here it flagged differently ...
  
  I dont remember any songs from this movie though though it was IR i dont remember .....
  
  Nice Movie ...
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Tue Aug 14 17:35:51 2007.

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  idhu than idhukuu than
  adhu than adhukku than was a popular number(dance by kuyili)
  
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Tue Aug 14 17:54:49 2007.

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  rajeshkrv wrote:

  idhu than idhukuu than adhu than adhukku than was a popular number(dance by kuyili)

  
  
  cha idhu eppadi manasula nikkaama pochu
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 15 2:01:26 2007.

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  bingleguy wrote:

  rajeshkrv wrote: idhu than idhukuu than adhu than adhukku than was a popular number(dance by kuyili) cha idhu eppadi manasula nikkaama pochu

  
  
  3 songs r there:
  
  1. Ilamaikku enna vilai
  
  2. Idhudhan idhukkudhan - sung by Ilayaraaja
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 15 2:03:29 2007.

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  bingleguy wrote:

  I dont remember any songs from this movie though though it was IR i dont remember .....

  
  
  how could u forget:
  
  kuyile kuyile song by Jesudas....
  
  superb meloday & nice picturisation .... a different one for vijaykanth....
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 15 2:12:30 2007.

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  One enjoyable Selvamani flick. I don't see it as Vijayakanth movie, because he gets the limelight stolen left, right, centre, everywhere by those playing bad guys.
  
  I remember mostly rooting for the bad guys, actually, thanks to their showstopping performance and the dialogues were zingers! Liyakath/Selvamani combination provided some good products.
  
  It has been a long time, though.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 15 2:18:48 2007.

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  (padam parthu rombha naal aachu DVD'um kidaikka mattengudhu)
  
  PULAN VISARANAI - Captain Vijaykanth-in magudathil innoru vairam..
  
  The film title itself kindles interest for the movie... a different film with racy screenplay without any stupid comedies
  
  Vijaykanth comes as a ganniyamana nermayana policeman so his name is HONEST RAJ amaidhiyana aarpattamilladha attagasamana nadippu
  
  In this he is not going to dance for any duets or romances an 18 year old etc.. his character is portrayed as a widower, living with teen age daughter
  
  he used to wear a long coat in this film ..... later in ullae veliye - parthiban has a dialogue like this "andha pulanvisaranai coat'a eduthuttu vanga"
  
  dialogues are most important for any movie especially for captain's movie... in my view liaquat ali khan is the best for captain....
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 15 2:31:41 2007.

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  Sama kaala arasiyalai suvarasiyamaga, pala padangalil kodutha ore iyakkunar - RK Selvamani
  
  - A product of film institute.... as a result he gets a chance to work with vijaykanth
  
  villain - we cannot guess it while watching the film first time..
  
  expected radharavi to be villain
  when he is killed, then i thought it should be Anandaraj (as Dharma - auto shankar's character)
  
  then finally comes the Mr.Madras - R Sarathkumar
  
  he scrores in the climax face-off with captain
  
  The bullet travel scene is a highlight of the film...
  
  Another character of the film is the dog as Dany ( )
  
  The film starts at some exhibition fight (vijaykanth's intro) & ends in Bombay where he identifies the kidney thiruttu....
  
  Roobini - oru naalu scene vandhuruppangala
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 15 2:34:40 2007.

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  isai - isaignani
  
  kuyile kuyile - nice melody
  
  rest (2 more) are item numbers - still it could be hearable
  
  those days, while watching a film... i wont concentrate on BGM's ..... so about BGM .. NO IDEA
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 15 8:14:48 2007.

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  I remember watching this film with my DAD. He told us "Antha climax la vara villan irukkaan paaru. Avan sooper. Fight nalla irukkum" Pulan Visaranai is one of the good movies of Vijaykanth. It had a fine balance of his image (C Centre action hero ) and the overall script. Sarath Kumar was One of the most powerful villans ! But went unnoticed after becoming a Hero. Must say : Underutilized
  I like Anandaraj's performance in the movie too.
  Like all Selvamani films, there are too much characters. One being RAdha Ravi
  Selvamani managed to maintain the flow and the suspense till the end.
  I couldn't recall any of the songs. But BGM was great as usual espthe scene in which the team finds the bodies.
  Fight b/w Vijaykanth & Sarathkumar was very famous at that time.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 15 8:21:30 2007.

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  & coming to VK's performance
  I loved the scene in which he reacts to Vaishnavi after hearing her frustration.
  & not to forget his acting in the scene in which her daughter is getting killed before his eyes
  
  

• From: Nakeeran on Wed Aug 15 23:45:23 2007.

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  Thank u very much Selva Sir
  
  Infact, I became a veriyan of Captain on seeing this movie !
  
  I would say, it was a trend setting movie.
  
  VK was doing some movies through DFTs at this time I think.
  
  One scene I wish to highlight immediately :
  
  The speech he gives before police officers at the intial stages of the movie highlighting how public call them & what should be the ideal role of a police officer ! Vow. Enlightening session .
  
  Liyaqat Ali Khan I think was the guy for dialogues
  
  WIll post more about this movie soon
  
  Cheers
  
  

• From: bingleguy on Wed Aug 15 23:55:49 2007.

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  Guess the intro scene was a fight ..... in the exhibition ... where somany ppl does chain snatching and throws into a car where the master crook sits n collects it ..... ivaru car kannadiya odaichu avanai veliyila pottu medhikkum podhu ... oru chain parandhu vandhu VJkanth mela vandhu vizhum ... adhu indha padam nnu dhaan ninaikiren ....
  
  The scene where VJkanth keeps a photo in front of the surveilance cam probably could have been a Holly flick ..... still was different in thamizh movies ....
  
  The scene where the dog is killed was really sad ..... nice performance by the doggie ....
  
  I ve heard VJkanth normally doesnt use dupe for stunts ... is that true ?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Aug 16 0:36:58 2007.

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  bingleguy wrote:

  I ve heard VJkanth normally doesnt use dupe for stunts ... is that true ?

  
  
  yes - 90%
  
  

• From: kamalgkannan on Thu Aug 16 14:23:56 2007.

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  where to download bgm clips please any one help me
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Aug 29 1:19:10 2007.

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  Selva,
  Pls announce the next movie
  
  Hopefully 'Pulan Visaranai' for next movie is completed
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 29 1:54:27 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Selva, Pls announce the next movie Hopefully 'Pulan Visaranai' for next movie is completed

  
  
  complaint kuduthutteenga-illa... koodiya seekiram kandu puduchurroam
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 2:07:44 2007.

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  Nenjil Oor Aalayam
  
  http://123indianonline.com/movies/nenjil-oor-aalayam-old-tamil-movie/
  
  Starring :
  
  Kalyana Kumar
  Devika, Muthuraman
  Ramarao
  Nagesh
  Manorama
  Raghavan
  Santha Kumari
  
  Songs :
  
  Kannadasan
  
  Music :
  M.S.Visvanathan - Ramamoorthy
  
  Story, Screenplay, Direction :
  Sridhar
  
  Year: 1962
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 2:10:06 2007.

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  Joe,
  Adikkadi "Kadamaiyai" unarthuvatharkku nandir
  Meet athu ithunnu Thread ah pona vaaram maranthae poyittaen
  
  RR -
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 29 2:10:07 2007.

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  "ninaippadhellAm nadandhuvittAl..."
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 2:12:51 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  "ninaippadhellAm nadandhuvittAl..."

  
  
  Next line super ah irukkum. Enna line adhu
  "nadanthathaiyae ninaithu vittaal ... >> ??"
  
  Kannadaasan
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Aug 29 2:14:57 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: "ninaippadhellAm nadandhuvittAl..." Next line super ah irukkum. Enna line adhu "nadanthathaiyae ninaithu vittaal ... >> ??" Kannadaasan

  
  
  நடந்ததையே நினைத்திருந்தால்
  அமைதி என்றுமில்லை
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Aug 29 2:20:30 2007.

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  நெஞ்சில் நீங்காத பாடல்கள்
  -----------------------
  1.சொன்னது நீ தானா
  2.எங்கிருந்தாலும் வாழ்க
  3.நினைத்ததெல்லாம் நடந்து விட்டால்
  4.முத்தான முத்தல்லவோ
  5.என்ன நினைத்து என்னை
  
  

• From: cancer on Wed Aug 29 2:33:53 2007.

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  a good movie, wonderful songs.
  
  but i could not tolerate the death of Kalyan kumar at the end.
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed Aug 29 2:39:01 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: crajkumar_be wrote: "ninaippadhellAm nadandhuvittAl..." Next line super ah irukkum. Enna line adhu "nadanthathaiyae ninaithu vittaal ... >> ??" Kannadaasan நடந்ததையே நினைத்திருந்தால் அமைதி என்றுமில்லை

  
  
  
  ninaippadhellaam nadandhuvittaal dheyvam aedhumillai
  nadandhadhaiyae ninaiththirundhaal amaidhi enrumillai
  mudindha kadhai thodarvadhillai iraivan aettinilae
  thodarndha kadhai mudivadhillai manidhan veettinilae
  
  (ninaippadhellaam)
  
  aayiram vaasal idhayam adhil aayiram ennangal udhayam
  yaaroa varuvaar yaaroa iruppaar varuvadhum poavadhum theriyaadhu
  oruvar mattum kudiyirundhal thunbam aedhumillai
  onrirukka onru vandhaal enrum amaidhiyillai
  
  (ninaippadhellaam)
  
  engae vazhkkai thodangum adhu engae evvidham mudiyum
  idhudhaan paadhai idhudhaan payanam enbadhu yaarukkum theriyaadhu
  paadhaiyellaam maarivarum payanam mudindhuvidum
  maaruvadhaip purindhu kondaal mayakkam thelindhuvidum
  
  (ninaippadhellaam)
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Aug 29 2:54:57 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  ninaippadhellaam nadandhuvittaal dheyvam aedhumillai nadandhadhaiyae ninaiththirundhaal amaidhi enrumillai mudindha kadhai thodarvadhillai iraivan aettinilae thodarndha kadhai mudivadhillai manidhan veettinilae (ninaippadhellaam) aayiram vaasal idhayam adhil aayiram ennangal udhayam yaaroa varuvaar yaaroa iruppaar varuvadhum poavadhum theriyaadhu oruvar mattum kudiyirundhal thunbam aedhumillai onrirukka onru vandhaal enrum amaidhiyillai (ninaippadhellaam) engae vazhkkai thodangum adhu engae evvidham mudiyum idhudhaan paadhai idhudhaan payanam enbadhu yaarukkum theriyaadhu paadhaiyellaam maarivarum payanam mudindhuvidum maaruvadhaip purindhu kondaal mayakkam thelindhuvidum (ninaippadhellaam)

  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Aug 29 2:56:54 2007.

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  Good movie, but bayangara sogama irrukum
  
  Sonnadhu needhaana is another superb song.
  
  

• From: cancer on Wed Aug 29 3:00:44 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  aayiram vaasal idhayam adhil aayiram ennangal udhayam yaaroa varuvaar yaaroa iruppaar varuvadhum poavadhum theriyaadhu

  
  
  
  
  really love those lyrics,
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed Aug 29 3:28:24 2007.

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  really a great song
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 29 3:48:20 2007.

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  Being a Rajini fan, I chanced into this terribly packaged VCD called Kurinji Malar. Very early Rajini, and the pix suggested some strong performance.
  
  So, I bought it anyway and my heart dropped when I finally got around watching. It was dubbed. From Kannada I think. The guy who dubbed Rajini's voice was terrible. Come to think of it, everyone's voice was terrible.
  
  Then, as the story progressed there was a nagging sense of familiarity. I know the story. The damned story. Of course, it's Nenjil Or Alayam.
  
  Going back to the credit sequence, I saw the story was credited to Sridhar.
  
  It makes sense now. First, the Kanada folks remade it to Kannada, then when Rajini became a hot property, they unleashed the dubbed version to Tamizh people, as if people had forgotten it.
  
  Needless to say, the original is the best! Sridhar is the hero of the film, with MSV coming second. Then there are the stars, my beloved Devika, the very versatile Muthuraman and of course, occasional tear-jerking Kalyan Kumar...a role that could have been earmarked for NT. I don't know.
  
  But a classic. Everyone knows.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 4:32:20 2007.

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  I want to hear the songs of this movie
  Can someone upload the mp3 of the songs in a strange file sharing site as a ZIP file so that I can listen to them
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Aug 29 5:22:52 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  I want to hear the songs of this movie Can someone upload the mp3 of the songs in a strange file sharing site as a ZIP file so that I can listen to them

  
  
  
  
  
  Why 'strange' bro?
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed Aug 29 5:26:55 2007.

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  strange may be mp3
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 6:41:06 2007.

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  groucho and pras,
  Finger slip aayiduchu type pannum podhu
  I meant "not so popular sites" so that they can escape office proxies
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Aug 29 6:58:46 2007.

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  the things i could remember about nenjil oar aalayam:
  
  * Film completed in 27 days
  
  * Film completed within the hospital set
  
  * A scene where muthuraman gets a book from kalyan kumar for time passing which has the heroines photo .... kalyan's lover earlier
  
  * Engirundhalum vazhga song
  
  

• From: mr_karthik on Wed Aug 29 7:27:52 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Nenjil Oor Aalayam http://123indianonline.com/movies/nenjil-oor-aalayam-old-tamil-movie/ Starring : Kalyana Kumar Devika, Muthuraman Ramarao Nagesh Manorama Raghavan Santha Kumari Songs : Kannadasan Music : M.S.Visvanathan - Ramamoorthy Story, Screenplay, Direction : Sridhar Year: 1962

  
  
  please add 'Kutti' Padmini too in actors list (muthaana muthallavo).
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Aug 29 7:31:31 2007.

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  Nenjil or aalayam - one of the most atrocious climax in the history of tamil cinema
  
  why on the earth does kalyan kumar dies in the end?? ......i mean there is no justice or logic or any sense in the climax.........if at all the devika character shuld have died for cheating both the guys - loving one and marrying the other and comforatbly garlanding dead-one's stautue in the end....... .........it completely spoils a "ok" movie scriptwise and a "technically" brilliant one........
  
  the camera angles wud have been just path breaking.......lightings - still more amazing ......but i always give this movie a skip bcos of its bad-bad-bad climax...........i dont know what pleasure people had those days to make people cry and feel bad about a movie?? i dont know who wrote the rule that dark presentation/sad climax are only reality??? its not realism, its pure pessimism
  
  selva - u r the man
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Wed Aug 29 7:36:14 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  ninaippadhellaam nadandhuvittaal dheyvam aedhumillai nadandhadhaiyae ninaiththirundhaal amaidhi enrumillai mudindha kadhai thodarvadhillai iraivan aettinilae thodarndha kadhai mudivadhillai manidhan veettinilae (ninaippadhellaam) aayiram vaasal idhayam adhil aayiram ennangal udhayam yaaroa varuvaar yaaroa iruppaar varuvadhum poavadhum theriyaadhu oruvar mattum kudiyirundhal thunbam aedhumillai onrirukka onru vandhaal enrum amaidhiyillai (ninaippadhellaam) engae vazhkkai thodangum adhu engae evvidham mudiyum idhudhaan paadhai idhudhaan payanam enbadhu yaarukkum theriyaadhu paadhaiyellaam maarivarum payanam mudindhuvidum maaruvadhaip purindhu kondaal mayakkam thelindhuvidum (ninaippadhellaam)

  
  
  
  Wonderful song.
  Along with this I love one more song too from the same movie.
  
  Engirundhaalum vaazhga
  un idhayam amaidhiyil vaazhga
  manjal valaththudan vaazhga
  un mangala kungumam vaazhga
  vaazhga...vaazhga...
  
  ingae oruvan kaaththirundhaalum
  ilamai azhagai paarththirundhaalum
  senra naalai ninaththirundhaalum
  thirumagalae nee vaazhga
  vaazhga...vaazhga...
  
  varuvaay ena naan thanimaiyil ninraen
  vandhadhu vandhaay thunaiyudan vandhaay
  thunaivarai kaakkum kadamaiyum thandhaay
  thooyavalae nee vaazhga
  vaazhga...vaazhga...
  
  aetriya dheepam nilai pera vaendum
  irunda veettil oli thara vaendum
  poatrum kanavan uyir pera vaendum
  ponmagalae nee vaazhga
  vaazhga...vaazhga
  
  
  
  
  

• From: saradhaa_sn on Wed Aug 29 7:41:30 2007.

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  "சொன்னது நீதானா...."
  (நெஞ்சில் ஓர் ஆலயம்)
  
  மீண்டும் ஸ்ரீதரின் படம்தான்.
  
  கவிஞர் கண்ணதாசனின் வருகைக்காக மொத்த ஆட்களும் காத்திருந்தார்கள். எம்.எஸ்.வி. அவர்கள் அடிக்கடி வாட்சைப் பார்த்துக்கொண்டிருந்தார். இதைக்கவனித்த சித்ராலயா கோபு "என்னண்ணே ரொம்ப ரெஸ்ட்லெஸ் ஆக இருக்கீங்க?" என்று கேட்டார். அதற்கு விஸ்வநாதன் அவர்கள் "இந்தப்பாட்டை கம்போஸ் பண்ணிட்டு, வேலுமணி சாரோட பணத்தோட்டம் பட ரீ-ரிக்கார்டிங்குக்குப் போகனும். இந்த ஆளை (கண்ணதாசனை) இன்னும் காணோமே" என்று புலம்பிக்கொண்டிருக்க, ஸ்ரீதரோ இந்தப்பாடலை நீங்க கம்போஸ் பண்ணிக் கொடுத்துட்டுத்தான் வேறு இடத்துக்குப்போகணும் என்று கண்டிப்பாக சொல்லி விட்டார். இடையிடையே சரவணா ஃபிலிம்ஸில்ருந்து ஃபோன் வந்த வண்ணம் இருந்தது.
  
  ஒரு கட்டத்தில் பொறுமையிழந்து விட்ட விஸ்வநாதன் அவர்கள் "என்னய்யா இந்த குடிகாரரோடு இதே வேலையா போச்சு. சொன்ன நேரத்துக்கு வந்து தொலைய மாட்டேங்கிறார்" என்று கத்தி விட்டார். (சாதாரணமாக இப்படி மரியாதையில்லாமல் கண்ணதாசனைப் பற்றிப் பேச மாட்டார். ஆனால் வேறு கம்பெனியில் இருந்து அடிக்கடி வந்த போன் அவரை பொறுமையிழக்கச்செய்து விட்டது).
  
  கண்ணதாசனும் வந்தார். ஸ்ரீதரும் சிச்சுவேஷனைச் சொன்னார். ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் புற்று நோய் காரண்மாக அனுமதிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் கணவன், தான் எப்படியும் இறந்துவிடுவோம் என்பதையும், அந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரி டாக்டர் தன் மனைவியின் முன்னாள் காதலன் என்பதையும் அறிந்து, தான் இறந்து விட்டால் அந்த டாக்டரை தன் மனைவி மணந்து கொள்ள சம்மதிக்க வேண்டும் என்று கூற, மனம் நொருங்கிப்போகும் மனைவி தன் சோகத்தைப்பிழிந்து பாடுவதாக காட்சியை விளக்கினார்.
  
  பி.சுசீலாவும் தயாரக இருக்கிறார். விஸ்வநாதன் அவர்களும் மெட்டுக்களைப்போட்டு காட்டுகிறார். அந்த மெட்டுகளுக்கு கண்னதாசனுக்கு வார்த்தைகள் வர மறுக்கின்றன. அவர் சொல்லிய சில வரிகளும் ஸ்ரீதருக்குப்பிடிக்கவில்லை.
  
  இடையில் பாத்ரூம் போவதற்காக கண்னதாசன் எழுந்து போகிறார். அவர் திரும்பி வருபோது ஒருவர் கண்ணதாசனிடம் "நீங்க வர லேட்டாச்சுன்னு விஸ்வநாதன் சார் உங்களை குடிகாரர்னு திட்டிட்டாருங்க" என்று சொல்லி விட்டார். (அதாவது போட்டுக்கொடுத்து விட்டார்).
  
  கண்ணதாசன் கோபப்படவில்லை. மீண்டும் வந்து அமர்ந்தவர், எம்.எஸ்.வி.அவர்களிடம்
  
  "ஏண்டா விசு, என்னை நீ குடிகாரன்னு திட்டினியாமே. அப்படியா, ஆச்சரியமா இருக்கே. நீ இப்படியெல்லாம் சொல்லமாட்டியே. நீயா இப்படிச்சொன்னே. என்னால் நம்பவே முடியலை" என்றவர் சட்டென்று ராகத்தோடு "சொன்னது நீதானா.. சொல்.. சொல்... சொல்... என்னுயிரே" என்று பாடிக்காட்ட......
  
  ஸ்ரீதர் எப்படிப்பட்டவர்? 'கப்'பென்று பிடித்துக்கொண்டார் "ஐயோ கவிஞ்ரே, இதுதான்யா நான் கேட்டது. எப்படி திடிற்னு உங்களுக்கு வந்தது?. விசு அண்ணே அவர் பாடிக்காட்டிய மெட்டையே வச்சுக்கொவோம். அதையே தொடர்ந்து மெட்டுப்போடுங்க. கவிஞரே நீர் வரிகளைச்சொல்லுமய்யா" என்று கூற, சற்று முன்னர் இருந்த இறுக்கமான சூழ்நிலை மறைந்து கண்ணதாசனும் விஸ்வநாதனும் மற்றும் குழுவினரும் உற்சாகமானார்கள்.
  
  யூனிட்டே வாய் பிளந்தது. மை காட்... இன்னொருவனை திருமணம் செய்யும்படிக்கூறும் கணவனுக்கு பதிலாக "சொன்னது நீதானா சொல் சொல் சொல் என்னுயிரே" என்ற வரிகள் எவ்வளவு கன கச்சிதமாகப் பொருந்துகின்றன என்று திகைப்பில் ஆழந்தனர். அதே உற்சாகத்தோடு கண்னதாசன் வரிகளை அள்ளி வீச, மெல்லிசை மன்ன்ர் அவற்றுக்கு சந்தம் அமைத்துக்கொண்டே வந்தார்.
  
  சம்மதம்தானா... ஏன்...ஏன்...ஏன்...என்ன்யிரே
  
  இன்னொரு கைகளிலே... யார்...யார்... நானா
  எனை மறந்தாயா...ஏன்...ஏன்...ஏன்...என்ன்யிரே
  
  மங்கல மாலை குங்குமம் யாவும் தந்ததெல்லாம் நீதானே
  மணமகளை திருமகளாய் நினைத்ததெல்லாம் நீதானே
  என் மனதில் உன் மனதை இணைத்ததும் நீதானே
  இறுதி வரை துணையிப்பேன் என்றதும் நீதானே
  இன்று சொன்னது நீதானா
  சொல் சொல் சொல் என்னுயிரே
  
  தெய்வத்தின் மார்பில் சூடிய மாலை தெருவினிலே விழலாமா
  தெருவினிலே விழுந்தாலும் வேறோர் கை தொடலாமா
  ஒருகொடியில் ஒருமுறைதான் மலரும் மலரல்லவா
  ஒரு மனதில் ஒரு முறைதான் வளரும் உறவல்லவா
  
  பாடல் எழுதி முடிந்ததும், எம்.எஸ்.வி. அவர்கள் கண்ணதாசனைக் கட்டித் தழுவி கண்ணீர் விட்டார். "செட்டியாரே, லேட்டாக வந்தாலும் வட்டியும் முதலுமாக அள்ளித்தந்துட்டீங்கய்யா" என்று மனம் மகிழ்ந்தார். இவர்களுடைய போட்டியில் ஸ்ரீதருக்கு அருமையான பாடல் கிடைத்து விட்டது.
  
  ("இதோ பாருங்கோ சாரே. என்னோட காதலி உங்களுக்கு மனைவியாயிட்டு வரும், ஆனால் உங்க மனைவி என்னோட காதலியாயிட்டு வராது" என்று 'அந்த ஏழு நாட்கள்' படத்தின் கிளைமாக்ஸில் வசனம் எழுத எனக்கு தூண்டுகோலாயிருந்தது இந்தப்பாடல்தான்" சொன்னவர் இயக்குநர் கே.பாக்கியராஜ்)
  
  பின்னர் இந்தப்பாடலை சிதார் இசையுடன் பி.சுசீலா நம் நெஞ்சைப்பிழியும் வண்னம் பாடியதும், அதற்கு சோகமே உருவாக தேவிகா நடித்ததும் சரித்திரங்கள்.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 7:45:14 2007.

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  Quote:

  selva - u r the man

  
  Maddy Cycle gap la enna izhutu vittuteenga
  
  

• From: cancer on Wed Aug 29 7:50:48 2007.

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  Nice one saaradhaa_sn
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Aug 29 7:51:14 2007.

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  wow.....Saradha madam ! Excellant post ! what a write up !
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Wed Aug 29 10:08:58 2007.

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  Dear Selva,
  
  Nice pick. The film which again proved beyond doubt that Sridhar is a master craftsman. As highlighted by R_R, this film was completed in a single set. The film which launched Muthuraman firmly in Tamil cinema and Nagesh catapulated to great heights after this.
  
  As everybody had pointed out songs were simply out of the world category. There used to be a saying that if you choose 10 top films of MSV- TKR - KD or MSV- KD combo, majority of them would be directed by Sridhar (closely followed by Bheemsingh). The lines in every song is special. Like
  
  In Ninaipathellam song, the lines,
  
  Paathaiellam maari varum; payanam thodarndhuvidum
  maaruvathai purindhukondal mayakkam thelindhu vidum
  
  In Engirundhalum Vaazhga,
  
  Varuvai ena naan thanimaiyil nindrai;
  vandhadhu vandhai thunaiyudan vandhai
  
  In Sonnathu neethana,
  
  Deivathin marbil soodiya maalai theruvinele vizhalama;
  Theruvinile vizhundalum veroru kai padalama
  (though somewhat chauvanistic)
  
  In Muthana Muthallavo
  
  Mavadu Kannallavo
  Mainavin Mozhiallavo
  
  Again if I remember correctly during the shooting of this movie, Kannadasan himself called up somebody in the unit and said Kannadasan had passed away. Everybody was so upset that all works came to standstill. After an hour or so, Kannadasan himself walked into the set and started laughing at the people present there. He told them that he wanted to see how people would react when they hear this news because when it actually happens he will not be able to see the reactions.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Aug 29 10:18:53 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Again if I remember correctly during the shooting of this movie, Kannadasan himself called up somebody in the unit and said Kannadasan had passed away. Everybody was so upset that all works came to standstill. Regards

  
  
  What I heard is He made somebody to inform MSV ,so that he can see how MSV react ..We all know how close MSV and Kannadasan.
  
  Btw,Murali sir ,There is a indirect link with NT and one of the songs in this movie ..Right?
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Wed Aug 29 15:05:12 2007.

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  இப்பொழுது சினிமாவின் தாரக மந்திரங்கள் இவை
  
  பிரம்மாண்டம், வெளி நாட்டில் பாட்டு, பட்டாளம் பட்டாளமாக துணை நடிகர்கள் .... இவை இல்லாமல் படமே எடுக்கத் தெரியாது இன்றைய இயக்குனர்களுக்கு (விதிவிலக்கு உண்டு)
  
  ஆனால் நெஞ்சில் ஓர் ஆலயம் ..
  பிரம்மாண்டம் தேவையா .. இல்லை ஒரு ஆஸ்பத்திரி போதும்
  பட்டாளம் தேவையா .. இல்லை ஒரு மூன்று நான்கு முக்கிய பாத்திரங்களும் 10−12 துணை நடிகர்கள்/ குணச்சித்திர நடிகர்கள் போதும்
  
  பாடல்களுக்கு வெளி நாடா? ஏன் சூழல் ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் இருக்க வெளி நாட்டில் ஏன்.. இங்கே பாடும்படி காட்சிகள் அமைக்க முடியாதா..
  
  அது தான் ஸ்ரீதரின் பலம். ஆம் 40 நாட்களில் ஒரே ஷெட்யூலில் ஆஸ்பத்திரி செட்டிலேயே அற்புதமான திரைக்காவியத்தை உருவாக்க முடியும் என நிரூபித்தவர் ஸ்ரீதர்.
  
  
  க‌ல்யாண்குமார்− டாக்ட‌ர் பாத்திர‌த்தையும் ச‌ரி அதே ச‌மய‌ம் த‌ன் காத‌லி என்ற‌ உண‌ர்வையும் ச‌ரி அழ‌காக‌ அள‌வாக‌ வெளிப்ப‌டுத்தியிருப்பார்
  
  தேவிகா − மிக‌வும் சிற‌ப்பான‌ பாத்திர‌ம் இவ‌ருக்கு காத‌ல‌ர் தான் டாக்ட‌ர் என்ப‌து தெரி ந்த‌ பின்ன‌ரும் க‌ண‌வ‌ரின் உயிர் தான் முக்கிய‌ம் என்ற‌ தோர‌ணையில் வார்த்தைக‌ளை சொன்னாலும், ம‌ன‌தில் ப‌ய‌மும் க‌வ‌லையும் ப‌ட‌ற‌ இவ‌ர் காட்டும் முக‌பாவ‌ங்க‌ள் அபார‌ம்.
  
  முத்துராம‌ன் − cheerful patient .. தான் குண‌மாகிவிடுவோம் என்ற‌ ந‌ம்பிக்கையில்லாத‌ பாத்திர‌ம். த‌ன‌க்கு ஏதாவ‌து நேர் ந்துவிட்டால் த‌ன் ம‌னைவி மீண்டும் திரும‌ண‌ம் செய்து கொள்ள‌ வேண்டும் என்ற‌ முற்போக்குச் சிந்த‌னை கொண்ட‌ பாத்திர‌ம் .. இந்த‌ மாதிரி பாத்திர‌ங்க‌ள் செய்வ‌து இவ‌ருக்கு மிக‌வும் சுல‌ப‌ம் ந‌ன்றாக‌வே செய்திருப்ப‌ர்
  
  மாவடு கண்ணல்லவோ . மாவடு கண்ணுடன் நம்மை வசீகரிக்கும் குட்டி பத்மினியின் நடிப்பு எப்போதும் போல் அருமை.. குட்டி பத்மினி இறந்த பின் தேவிகா பாடுவதாக அமைந்த துள்ளிவரும் மான்குட்டி பாடல் மிகவும் அருமை..
  
  இவர்களை தவிர, நாகேஷ், எஸ்.ஆர்.சிவகாமி,சாந்தகுமாரி என எல்லோரும் அளவான நடிப்பை வெளிப்படுத்தியிருப்பார்கள்
  
  
  பி.என்.சுந்தரத்தின் Crystal Clஎஅர் ஒளிப்பதிவு, மெல்லிசை மன்னர்களின் இசை, கண்ணதானின் வரிகள், சுசீலா, ஸ்ரீனிவாஸ், ஏ.எல்.ராகவன் குரல்களில் பாடல்கள் ஒவ்வொன்றும் இசை முத்துக்கள்
  
  
  பெயருக்கேற்றார் போல் மக்கள் மனதில் நெஞ்சில் ஓர் அலயமாக அமர்ந்திருக்கும் படம் இது
  
  இது ஹிந்தியில் தில் ஏக் மந்திர் என்றும் வந்து வெற்றி பெற்றது.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Aug 29 15:58:04 2007.

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  Superb songs. I listen to the songs of this movie at least once in a week. Is this the movie in which muthuraman and KK play tennis in the first scene and KK wantedly loses to muthuraaman??
  
  

• From: rajeshkrv on Wed Aug 29 17:27:22 2007.

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  nerd, appadi oru scene indha padathila irukkira madhiri enakku theriyalaye.. may be in another film
  
  they 2 played in another movie probably kalaikoyil .. not sure though
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Aug 29 17:58:15 2007.

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  Oh thanks rajesh. I don't even know if muthuraman and kalyankumar were the ones who play tennis. I think its aalayamaNi. Anyway pardon my ignorance
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Thu Aug 30 10:52:01 2007.

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  Dear Joe,
  
  Yeah. You are right. NT and Engirundhalum Vaazhga are interlinked. When AVM celebrated the release of Uyarndha Manidhan which was incidentally the 125th film of NT, the chief guest was Anna. He was the CM then and he was almost in his last days. There he referred to NT and said now he is in the politically opposite camp but still I would wish "Engirundhalum Vaazhga". If I remember correctly this was the last cinema function Anna attended
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: sudha india on Sat Sep 1 8:17:20 2007.

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  saradhaa_sn wrote:

  "சொன்னது நீதானா...." (நெஞ்சில் ஓர் ஆலயம்) மீண்டும் ஸ்ரீதரின் படம்தான். ................................ பாடல் எழுதி முடிந்ததும், எம்.எஸ்.வி. அவர்கள் கண்ணதாசனைக் கட்டித் தழுவி கண்ணீர் விட்டார். "செட்டியாரே, லேட்டாக வந்தாலும் வட்டியும் முதலுமாக அள்ளித்தந்துட்டீங்கய்யா" என்று மனம் மகிழ்ந்தார். இவர்களுடைய போட்டியில் ஸ்ரீதருக்கு அருமையான பாடல் கிடைத்து விட்டது. ("இதோ பாருங்கோ சாரே. என்னோட காதலி உங்களுக்கு மனைவியாயிட்டு வரும், ஆனால் உங்க மனைவி என்னோட காதலியாயிட்டு வராது" என்று 'அந்த ஏழு நாட்கள்' படத்தின் கிளைமாக்ஸில் வசனம் எழுத எனக்கு தூண்டுகோலாயிருந்தது இந்தப்பாடல்தான்" சொன்னவர் இயக்குநர் கே.பாக்கியராஜ்) பின்னர் இந்தப்பாடலை சிதார் இசையுடன் பி.சுசீலா நம் நெஞ்சைப்பிழியும் வண்னம் பாடியதும், அதற்கு சோகமே உருவாக தேவிகா நடித்ததும் சரித்திரங்கள்.

  
  
  Dear Saradha madam
  
  Excellent post.
  
  

• From: sipi on Sat Sep 1 11:08:38 2007.

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  Nerd wrote:

  Oh thanks rajesh. I don't even know if muthuraman and kalyankumar were the ones who play tennis. I think its aalayamaNi. Anyway pardon my ignorance

  
  
  nerd, you are right... adhu aalaiyamani thaaan... and that two heroes are
  
  sivaji & ssr... in the first scene,ssr voluntarily loses the game for sivaji...
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sun Sep 2 3:51:19 2007.

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  Saradha just read your post!! Fantastic...!!
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Sep 3 2:10:35 2007.

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  sipi wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Oh thanks rajesh. I don't even know if muthuraman and kalyankumar were the ones who play tennis. I think its aalayamaNi. Anyway pardon my ignorance nerd, you are right... adhu aalaiyamani thaaan... and that two heroes are sivaji & ssr... in the first scene,ssr voluntarily loses the game for sivaji...

  
  
  
  When I was younger, I used to get confused with these two titles, considering both had Alayam in it.
  
  I still think that NT should have done Kalyan Kumar's role. Perfect for him. But KK did a good job nevertheless.
  
  Alayamani deserves a discusison on its own. Interesting study on childhool trauma, possessiveness and split personality. Oh well, we have discussed that in NT's thread.
  
  

• From: Querida on Fri Sep 7 0:21:21 2007.

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  Hi all,
  
  I was wondering if anyone will do me the pleasure of letting me in on the synopsis of this movie...so far i get that devika loves one person and marries another...and then? before that? the ending? As others have already expressed the songs are superb in music and lyric wise....Ninaipathellam nadanthuvitaal is a song i always have on my lips...This movie sadly is deemed too old to be found in movie rental stores and is not on the list of downloadable movies...
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Sep 7 0:38:50 2007.

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  This was a very nice movie.
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 7 3:41:57 2007.

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  Querida wrote:

  I was wondering if anyone will do me the pleasure of letting me in on the synopsis of this movie......

  I wrote a review for Hub more than a year ago.
  http://www.forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=591058&sid=70c7371eb2365ed8e32fbd6a2cc9208d#591058
  
  Nenjil Oru Aalayam
  
  Actors: Kalyana Kumar, Muthuraman, Devika, Nagesh, Manorama, VS Raghavan, Kutty Padmini, etc.
  Lyricist: Kannadhasan
  Music: MS Viswanathan
  Singers: TMS, PS, PBS and ALR
  Direction: Sridhar
  
  Storyline:
  
  Unlike the common old movies where the actual story begins only after 30 mins of introduction, Sridhar’s Nenjil Oru Aalayam comes to the point immediately.
  
  Dr. Murali (Kalyana Kumar) is pressured by his mother to get married but he refuses. Venu (Muthuraman), a lung cancer patient is admitted to Dr. Murali’s nursing home. Venu’s wife, Seetha (Devika) is none other than Dr. Murali’s ex-girlfriend! Thus the plot is set. The rest of the characters – Nagesh as attendant Peter, Manorama as patient Navaneedham, VS Raghavan as a Father and Kutty Padmini as another patient are mere dressings to this tale.
  
  Dr. Murali summons other doctors to examine Venu and all conclude that the surgery will be risky, but both Seetha and Venu are adamant in going through it. From that day, 10th November, the date of surgery is set for 15 days later i.e the 25th of November. The entire story is narrated within that span. There are no flashbacks explaining neither the love affair between Murali and Seetha nor why it did not culminate into marriage. The whole movie is dark and the songs (not simply good songs but fantastic songs) further accentuate the situation.
  
  Realising that his lover is another man’s wife, Dr. Murali contemplates in his song engirundhaalum vaazhga by AL Raghavan. The explicit lyrics underlines the fact why old songs have such a great effect on the listener, for it is very evident that the lyricist writes the song for the story, unlike these days where songs are mostly fill-in-the-gap variety with no relevance to the story line. For a sampling, ALR sings:
  
  engirunthaalum vaazhga
  un ithayam amaithiyil vaazga
  manjal valaththudan vaazhga
  un mangala kungkumam vaazga
  vaazhga vaazhga
  
  see this verse, that explains Dr. Murali’s position very clearly
  
  varuvaai ena naan thanimaiyil nindrEn
  vanthathu vanthaai thunaiyudan vanthaai
  thunaivarai kaakkum kadamaiyum thanthaai
  thooyavalE nee vaazhga vaazhga vaazhga
  
  
  The movie goes on a fast pace with Dr. Murali hiding a photo of his former lover in a magazine, with Venu borrowing the same magazine to read to sleep! However, Venu learns of the real identities of the duo during a conversation between his wife and his doctor. He then sings the monumental thathuva song, ninaippathellaam nadandhuvittaal deivam Edhummillai. Pay attention to the lyrics.
  
  ninaippathellaam nadandhu vittaal deivam Edhummillai
  nadanthathaiyE ninaiththirundhaal amaidhi Edhummillai
  mudindha kadhai thodarvadhillai manidhan veettinilE
  thodarndha kadhai mudivathillai iraivan EttinilE
  
  aayiram vaasal idhayam adhil aayiram ennangal udhayam
  yaarO varuvaar yaarO pOvaar varuvadhum pOvadhum theriyaadhu
  oruvar mattum kudi irundhaal thunbam Edhummillai
  ondrirukka ondruvandhaal endrum amaidhi illai
  
  engE vaazhkkai thodanggum adhu engE evvidham mudiyum
  idhuthaan vaazhkkai idhuthaan payanam enbadhu yaarukkum theriyaadhu
  paadhaigalai maatrivittaal payanam maarividum
  maaruvadhai purindhu kondaal mayakkam theerndhuvidum
  
  In the meantime, Seetha and Kutty Padmini become very close and the only “happy song” comes on now, muththaana muththallavO.
  Since it is a Sridhar movie, Kutty Padmini dies and a pathos version of the same song appears.
  
  Venu then confronts Dr. Murali and asks him a favour, ie to ensure his wife remains a sumangali after his (certain) death. Dr. Murali, in the tight situation, agrees provided Seetha is acceptable to the arrangement. Knowing Dr. Murali’s position, Venu then confronts his wife. She replies to him, sonnadhu needhaanaa
  
  sonnadhu needhaanaa sol sol sol ennuyirE
  sammadham thaanaa En En En ennuyirE
  En En En ennuyirE
  
  see this part…
  
  deivaththin maarbil soodiya maalai theruvinilE vizhalaamaa
  theruvinilE vizhundhaalam vErOr kai thodalaamaa
  oru kodiyil oru muraidhaan malarum malarallavaa
  oru manadhil oru muraidhaan valarum uravallavaa
  
  
  Days fly by and the date of surgery arrives. With jittery hands Dr. Murali performs the surgery on Venu. Tense moments follow. Dr. Murali seeks solace in his room, unable to face the outcome of his surgery. The situation is akin to being between the pot and the fire. If Venu survives, Dr. Murali will forever lose his lover. On the other hand, for Dr. Murali to reunite with Seetha, Venu must die! If Venu dies, was it because Dr. Murali does not want him to live? Would Dr. Murali have a hand in his death?
  
  Someone else arrives at Dr. Murali’s room and announces the outcome…..
  Dr. Murali, with mixed feelings rushes to Seetha to inform her about her husband.
  Seetha does not open the door…..
  What happens next? Did Venu survive the surgery? What happened to Seetha? What happens to Dr. Murali?
  
  See the movie for the answers.
  
  Unlike other movies, Nenjil oru Alayam ends with a extremely touching song – in full! Oruvar vaazhum aalayam.
  
  OndraiyE ninaiththirundhu oorukkE vaazhndhirundhu
  uyir koduththu uyir kaakkum
  uththamarkkOr aalayam
  
  oruvar vaazhum aalayam uruvamillaa aalayam
  nilaiththu vaazhum aalayam nenjil Or aalayam
  
  karunai deivam kaigal neetti anaikka thaavum aalayam
  kaalamellaam thirandhu kaanum kadhavillaatha aalayam
  paasamennum malargalaalE poojai seyyum aalayam
  thyaagam ennum oliyinaalE dheebam Etrum aalayam
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Sep 7 4:15:33 2007.

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  nice review Nov!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Sep 7 4:32:28 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  oru kodiyil oru muraidhaan malarum malarallavaa oru manadhil oru muraidhaan valarum uravallavaa

  
  
  Golden Lyrics Must say !
  
  
  
  And "Kaalathaal Azhikka mudiyaatha VArigaL"
  
  NOV -
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Sep 7 10:27:05 2007.

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  romba adippatta maadhri irukku selva?
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Sep 7 11:56:22 2007.

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  I've seen this movie so many times. One of my mom's favs
  
  Anyway Querida, the storyline is simple. Basically, Kalyana Kumar (idk if that's his name) is the doctor at a big hospital with a loving mother, whose only wish is to see him happily married. One day, Devika comes to the hospital with her dying husband for treatment. Apparently, Devika was the doctor's old lover but due to circumstances, she ends up married to Muthuraman. Although it is awkward for the two one-time lovers, they manage to avoid each other for the most part and keep Muthuraman in the dark about their past relationship. The husband and wife mingle with the other hospital patients and staff (like Manorama and Nagesh : very funny. He's in love with her). Devika gets attached to a little girl who has to have surgery, but the doctor is unable to save her, so Devika loses hope for her own husband and wants to leave, but Kalyana Kumar convinces her to stay and says that he'll do everything possible for her. Muthuraman somewhere in the middle finds out about the two, but hearing Devika support him, he is not mad but happy that she is loyal to him. His condition gets worse and at one point, with Devika in the room, he tells the doctor that if something were to happen to him and he died after the operation, that he should marry and take care of Devika. In the end, after a couple of touching songs and dialogues, Kalyana Kumar saves Muthuraman's life and the extreme happiness leads to his own death somehow. I guess he was so stressed out over protecting his oath to Devika to save her husband. Anyway, in the end everyone pays final respect to the doctor.
  
  It's a nice movie. Comedy, good songs, touching scenes, it has everything :)
  
  

• From: Querida on Fri Sep 7 12:14:29 2007.

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  Quote:

  See the movie for the answers.

  
  
  I was so caught up in the story and the detailed review that seeing these words set me a moment back, I actually had to reread them to understand that I was not to have the ending. Yet it has sweetened the pursuit of finding this movie, which I have now...will see it this weekend if things all work out. Thank you NOV-san, I can see the amount of appreciation that was bestowed on this movie from your just as riveting review
  
  

• From: Querida on Fri Sep 7 12:20:42 2007.

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  and seconds later i'm back
  i like how two reviews can be so different yet about the same movie...thanks for the review and ending kollywoodfan ...i like the scepticism about the doctor's death...i think it is that moment we experience in every good movie...where it's like yeah that can happen without meaning cause it's a movie...so we'll have to begrudgingly accept it...or that for a fleeting moment we wished we saw more of the story's life since we have just shared an accelerated slice of it
  
  

• From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Sep 7 16:08:18 2007.

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  Lol, welcome. I'm sorry if it seems like I didn't appreciate it as much as NOV. The ending was prolly the only one that could fit the movie, but it was just a little too melodramatic for me, that's all.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sat Sep 8 8:15:40 2007.

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  Querida wrote:

  I actually had to reread them to understand that I was not to have the ending.

  hehe. thats the effect of reading IMN for the past umpteen years.
  all thier reviews would end that way. anyway, i dont believe in revealing key points in any of my reviews.
  
  kolly, thats ok. that you appreciate such an old movie is good enough for me.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Sep 10 10:46:29 2007.

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  Moondram Pirai
  
  
  Moondram Pirai (1982 Or 1983 Not clear on this though 1982 looks true) is a Tamil feature film directed by Balu Mahendra. The cast includes Kamal Hassan, Sridevi, Silk Smitha and Poornam Vishwanathan. The film earned strong critical plaudits upon release, and was also commercially successful. Sridevi's performance was particularly well received, and was expected to win the National Film Award for Best Actress in 1983 for her role in the film, but Kamal Hassan silently won National Film Award for Best Actor award. The film's score and soundtrack were composed by Ilaiyaraaja, with songs sung by K.J. Yesudas and S. P. Balasubrahmanyam. The soundtrack was also well received
  
  Plot
  
  A young girl (Sridevi) meets with an accident, suffers brain damage and loses her memory. Through devious circumstances she is sold into prostitution but is saved by a kind hearted teacher (Kamal Hassan) who takes her to the country in order to protect her. Eventually the teacher falls in love with the girl, she regains her memory up until the time of her accident and has no recollection of the teacher or his kindness.
  
  
  Cast
  
  * Kamal Haasan - Teacher
  * Sridevi - Woman suffering from Amnesia
  * Silk Smitha - Headmaster's Wife
  * Poornam Vishwanathan - Headmaster
  
  [edit] Awards
  
  The film has won the following awards since its release:
  
  1984 National Film Awards (India)
  
  * Won - Silver Lotus Award - Best Actor - Kamal Haasan
  * Won - Silver Lotus Award - Best Cinematography - Balu Mahendra
  
  Remake
  
  Hindi Film Sadma
  
  Japanese Film Called The Girl Meet Teacher
  
  ??
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Sep 10 10:48:03 2007.

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  http://suthar.blogspot.com/2005/04/moondram-pirai.html
  
  Unn per enna? *Chukles*...Cheenu, Seenivasan. Irandu per aa? *Pauses*..Ithule ethavathu, onnu kuppita pothum. Cheeenuu..
  - Seenivasan answering Viji.
  
  The year Moondram Pirai was made: 1983. The year i watched it: 2005. Reputed to be one of the best movies ever made in Indian cinema. I am in complete agreement with the statement.
  
  There were so many great memorable lines in this movie, choosing just a few to begin with, became such an arduous task; These lines, they were constantly filled with a sincere childlike ignorance and bluntness. You can say, the language used is very simple, but not too shallow to insult an adult viewer.
  
  The outstanding visuals vividly expose and capture the intensity of its actors in almost every frame. Remember, the English Patient? The experience, somehow similar.
  
  In a movie bereft of artificiality and fakeness such as this, the storyteller's sincerity in narrating is very apparent. And any story, told in greatest sincerity is worth listening. In fact, every aspect of the movie celebrates poignancy. With absolutely no unneccessary scenes, the movie finishes faster than most Indian movies but not less effective in conveying the actual content and plot to the audience.
  
  I will watch it again, definitely. But why this post? Good things are best shared. I thought it'd be nice if I could share the feelings it created in words. Maybe I failed to express the idea clearly, I wouldn't know, but do know I only have positive things to say about this movie. To sum things up, I will simply say, this is my favourite Tamil movie.
  
  posted by Sutharsanan
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Sep 10 11:13:17 2007.

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  Few things that i remember from this movie:
  
  * kaviyarasu kannadasan's last song - kannae kalaimane
  
  other songs:
  
  ponmeni urugudhe - silk sumitha & kamal
  
  poongatru pudhiranadhu
  
  * subburamani naay kutti
  
  * the scene where sri devi spillls ink on kamals official files
  
  * then the famous Aadra Raama Aadra Raama climax - Adhayum vivek vittu veikkalai (film - Run)
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Mon Sep 10 23:25:42 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  hehe. thats the effect of reading IMN for the past umpteen years. all thier reviews would end that way. anyway, i dont believe in revealing key points in any of my reviews.

  
  
  Athaana reason-nu. I do the same in some of my reviews too, NOV. It's that damned Indian Movie News that I used to read as a kid. I think it was run by SS. Sharma that time. I picked up Tamizh sorely to read that magazine. Phew! They always do that...to all their reviews, Tamizh, Hindi, English or even Malay films.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Sep 10 23:39:28 2007.

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  Yester day I happened to read a book on Silk Smitha
  
  Though Silk smitha is not a good dancer ,'Pon meni uruguthe' is the song made silk smitha very famous ..when Balumahendra remade 'moontram pirai' in Hindi ,silk simtha demanded high amount for the song ,so Balu did the song with another actress intially ..but after completing the song ,he was not satisfied with the rush ..then again balu went to Silk offering what she demanded and completed the song with silk again.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 0:01:13 2007.

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  dig////
  
  

  groucho070 wrote:

  NOV. It's that damned Indian Movie News that I used to read as a kid. I think it was run by SS. Sharma that time. I picked up Tamizh sorely to read that magazine. Phew! They always do that...to all their reviews, Tamizh, Hindi, English or even Malay films.

  
  yes, it was Sharma. and the english then was good, not like the pale version of today's IMN
  
  seeing that IMN was then owned by Shaw Brothers, that was their tactic to draw crowds to the cinemas. kids like us had a terrible time, not knowing how a film ended. it is that thirst that has me watching old movies till today.
  
  did you watch maaya manidhan y'day? invisible man in the 1950s!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Sep 11 0:09:02 2007.

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  kamal's overaction(only climax) and logicless climax makes it a sure-miss movie for me.......
  
  u can watch "engirondho vandhaal" - a shivaji movie with similar storyline where shivaji becomes a "mentally disturbed" person........later when he regains normalcy, he forgets Jayalalitha who helps him......but when told to him abt her help to him during his "mental" state, he starts liking her for the service she had done to him....absolutely normal/logical ending
  
  kamal's acting in initial scenes and IR's music/Kannadasan's lyrics were great........this movie is again a great technical product...... .....
  
  my parents tell me, as a 10 month kid, i used to shake my body a lot for "ponmeni, urugadhae" song .....this movie and its songs are big nostalgia accelerators
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Sep 11 0:35:50 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  kamal's overaction(only climax) and logicless climax makes it a sure-miss movie for me.......

  
  I was to say this. Anyway the climax has been discussed a LOT in the hub and we all agreed to disagree. Sans the climax its a terrific movie. Everything was perfect
  
  

• From: Cinefan on Tue Sep 11 0:41:07 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  kamal's overaction(only climax) and logicless climax makes it a sure-miss movie for me.......

  
  
  
  
  The film has one the best climaxes.Totally logical,where was the time for him to explain every thing to Sri.
  
  "Over action"-what Sir telegu bidda laaga dialogue
  
  Absolutely amazing acting.He was in total control of the scene.Can't imagine anybody else carrying that one.He just removed whatever Sri had done from the mind of the audience.
  
  Actually,he didn't have much to do till then,had to support Sri which he did well.
  
  This was 'THE'movie which made me a Kamal fan.Like Guna,I can watch this one 'n'number of times.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Tue Sep 11 0:43:26 2007.

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  Digression again, (Manicchukungoo!)
  
  

  NOV wrote:

  seeing that IMN was then owned by Shaw Brothers, that was their tactic to draw crowds to the cinemas. kids like us had a terrible time, not knowing how a film ended. it is that thirst that has me watching old movies till today. did you watch maaya manidhan y'day? invisible man in the 1950s!

  
  
  We had tough time accessing movie theatres...and we see films through those magazines. If the man is still around, I'd like to thank him for making me a movie buff, if such thing is good.
  
  No, I did not see Maya Manidhan, would you like to discuss it in the Last Movie Watched thread? I want to know.
  
  
  And Selva, great choice.
  
  Majority of credit for Mundram Pirai should go to Balu Mahendra. Of cousre, there is Kamal and Sri Devi to thank. And how can one forget Ilayaraja and Kannadhasan's contribution. I feel Kanne Kalaimaane is a bit overrated (because it's overplayed and happens to be Kannadhasan's last song).
  
  I prefer Poongkatru myself. For strange reason this song was not used in Hindi. Instead there was another delightful tune (language theriyathu) which was imported for Thambikku Entha Ooru (En Vaanilee). The interval music before second charanam is identical to Poonkaatru's.
  
  Of course, this movie is usually talked about for its bleak and 'muddy' climax - the reason why Kamal won the award. But there are a lot more in there. I have not seen it for a long time, and I might revisit soon.
  
  Maddy, thanks for the comparison with Engiruntho Vanthal, which is a remake of a Hindi film. Appo upbeat ending worked, Ippo downbeat ending gives additional punch. As for Kamal's acting during the climax - same with Kanne Kalaimaane, overplayed, over-talked about. But he did well there. He really threw himself, literally, into the role and spoke of his love for that girl.
  
  Trivia: The song, Vaanenggum never appeared in cassette those days. In fact, never heard in on radio. I managed to download the mp3 recently. The only SPB song in the movie. The only one written by Vairamuthu (if not mistaken...who shared lyrics credit with the great late Kannadhasan).
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 1:02:22 2007.

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  Cinefan wrote:

  The film has one the best climaxes.Totally logical,where was the time for him to explain every thing to Sri. Absolutely amazing acting.He was in total control of the scene.Can't imagine anybody else carrying that one.He just removed whatever Sri had done from the mind of the audience. Actually,he didn't have much to do till then,had to support Sri which he did well. This was 'THE'movie which made me a Kamal fan.Like Guna,I can watch this one 'n'number of times.

  
  
  Same here. This movie is special for me. I don't know why I love this movie very much. personally, I LOVE this movie more than Nayagan.
  There are few movies of KH that make you seeing it again. Both commercial movies (like Aboorva Sagodarargal) and films like this.
  
  
  Groucho,
  I think that SOMETHING IS SPECIAL in "Kanne Kalaimanae" song apart from the fact that it was the last song of KD. I came to know about this only after many years. But I was addicted to this song much before that. I don't think this should be listed along "Play and talk about it more and it will be popular"
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 1:22:25 2007.

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  Aandavar bhakthiyin jananam - mUndRAm piRai
  
  <Dig>
  My mom says i made sure we watched back to back shows of this movie (not sure but i think Ega theater) and Thoongadhe Thambi Thoongadhe (Pudukkottai).
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  Of course i disagree with Maddy about the climax but some people do share his opinion that it was overdone...
  
  

  Maddy wrote:

  kamal's acting in initial scenes and IR's music/Kannadasan's lyrics were great

  
  Glad you noticed and mentioned this because, he would have been so natural in all the scenes except the climax that nobody notices his *acting* in the rest of the movie
  
  Sridevi's role and performance to a certain extent is immortal.
  
  Vintage Balu Mahendra
  Those were the days when every scene could have the intensity and not be constrained by pace or the lack of it... Superb visual style(?)... The movie will move at its own rightful pace... seamless-a pogum...
  
  There is one shot in the movie which i will never forget. Its the shot of Sri Devi and Aandavar sleeping on the night before the "eventful" day...
  
  a lot of favorite scenes but i need to watch it one more time for a refresh.
  
  "neela saayam veluthu pochu dum dum dum dum"
  
  The climax - nenjai pisaindhu, puzhindhu, kasakki edukkum oru kaatchi... Its the nadir and the summit for the viewer and the actor, respectively... "throwing himself into the character", "getting into the skin", "becoming one with the character" - it is THIS scene...
  
  BM-Ilaiyaan combination pathi enna solradhu - Deadly!
  
  Kanne Kalaimaane - The best part about this classic is its simplicity and yet its power - both in music and lyrics
  
  My favorite though, is Poongaatru Pudhidhaanadhu... nenjai urukkum Sindhu Bhairavi.. amazing guitar.. stunning interludes...
  Raaja's interludes are akin to a river or a stream flowing throw its course.. like a relay race.. one isntrument handing over the baton to another with some pauses thrown in... superlative.
  
  Vaan engum - To quote Guitar Prasanna, "Just the intro is enough"
  
  Thilak/Kannan/PR,
  unga write-up ezhudhungo..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 1:33:52 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Aandavar bhakthiyin jananam - mUndRAm piRai <Dig> My mom says i made sure we watched back to back shows of this movie (not sure but i think Ega theater) and Thoongadhe Thambi Thoongadhe (Pudukkottai). </Dig>

  
  
  I didn't see this in theatre, I think I must have seen this in Virudhungar streets or VCR. (not clear).
  
  But Nayagan street theatre la thaan paarthen. Usually during festival times, they will take few movies and will screen them in the streets (with the theatre screen). Athu sema experience. Something ||| to what they do in many colleges and OATs. Tharaiyila okkanthukittu kan muzhichu paarkura feel ae thani.
  
  & CR, As maddy said, The movie and its songs are big nostalgia accelerators
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 1:56:23 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Usually during festival times, they will take few movies and will screen them in the streets (with the theatre screen). Athu sema experience. Something ||| to what they do in many colleges and OATs. Tharaiyila okkanthukittu kan muzhichu paarkura feel ae thani.

  
  Heard about these from my friends...Never experienced that
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 1:58:59 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Usually during festival times, they will take few movies and will screen them in the streets (with the theatre screen). Athu sema experience. Something ||| to what they do in many colleges and OATs. Tharaiyila okkanthukittu kan muzhichu paarkura feel ae thani. Heard about these from my friends...Never experienced that

  
  
  50 % of the movies I watched so far ..Free screening at Beach sand at my village on various occasions ..Mostly MGR and NT movies. Unforgettable experiences.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Sep 11 1:59:21 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Usually during festival times, they will take few movies and will screen them in the streets (with the theatre screen). Athu sema experience. Something ||| to what they do in many colleges and OATs. Tharaiyila okkanthukittu kan muzhichu paarkura feel ae thani. Heard about these from my friends...Never experienced that

  
  
  
  these happened only in towns like sivakasi, srivilliputtur, etc not in city.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 2:01:32 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  these happened only in towns like sivakasi, srivilliputtur, etc not in city.

  
  Of course! theriyum Sanjeevi, adhaan parichayam illa nu sonnen..
  I used to go to my birth place Pudukkottai on vacations but never experienced street screenings..
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Sep 11 2:03:38 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: these happened only in towns like sivakasi, srivilliputtur, etc not in city. Of course! theriyum Sanjeevi, adhaan parichayam illa nu sonnen.. I used to go to my birth place Pudukkottai but only on vacations but never experienced street screenings..

  
  
  enga oor mariamman kovil thiruvizha-vula poduvanga parthirukken, but ippo illa.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 2:20:38 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Sanjeevi wrote: these happened only in towns like sivakasi, srivilliputtur, etc not in city. Of course! theriyum Sanjeevi, adhaan parichayam illa nu sonnen.. I used to go to my birth place Pudukkottai but only on vacations but never experienced street screenings.. enga oor mariamman kovil thiruvizha-vula poduvanga parthirukken, but ippo illa.

  
  Yes. It was eliminated due to law and order problems. Normally, for these special screenings, they will drew power from the main lines and there will be a FORCED POWER CUT in those streets. Samooga Virodhigal ithai nalla advantage aaga use panna thodangiyathaal (festival times ! ) , avai nirutha pattana. After this, I heard that they screened them in few MILLS. But that was also stopped now it seems
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 2:34:39 2007.

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  Back to the Topic..
  
  "Moontram Pirai" -Intha Title-kkum intha padathukkum enna relevant?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Sep 11 3:35:52 2007.

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  Cinefan wrote:

  Absolutely amazing acting.He was in total control of the scene.Can't imagine anybody else carrying that one.He just removed whatever Sri had done from the mind of the audience.

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  கமலின் அற்புதமான நடிப்பிற்குச் சான்றாக இருக்கும் படஙளில் ஒன்று. இங்கே படத்தின் climax பற்றியும், அதில் அவரது நடிப்பு பற்றியும் பல விதஙளில் அலசப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அதையும் தாண்டி பல இடஙளில், படம் பூராவும் இயல்பான, யதார்த்தமான நடிப்பால் அசர வைத்திருப்பார் கமல். உதாரணத்திற்கு ஒன்று (படத்தில் எனக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்த காட்சி). 'சுப்ரமணியை' தேடிசென்ற ஸ்ரீதேவி எங்கே சென்றார் என்று தெரியாமல், கமல் கலங்கிப்போய் தேட ஆரம்பிப்பார். சுற்று வட்டாரத்தில் இல்லை என்று தெரிந்தவுடன் இன்னும் அதிக கலக்கத்தோடு தெருவில் இறஙி தேடுவார். செல்லும் வழியில், தெரு ஓரத்தில் ஒரு பிள்ளையார் சிலை. அதை பார்த்தவுடன், உடனே அங்கே மண்டியிட்டு அணைந்துபோயிருக்கும் ஒரு விளக்கைப் பற்ற வைத்து, அந்த சிலையை நீர் நிறைந்த கண்களோடு காதல், பாசம், பயம், ஏக்கம், தவிப்பு, எதிர்பார்ப்பு அத்தனை உணர்ச்சிகளையும் ஒன்று சேர்த்து கண்களாலேயே பிரார்த்தனை செய்யும் அந்தக் காட்சி ஒன்றே போதும். நடிப்புக்கு இலக்கணம் வகுத்த கட்டஙளில் ஒன்று அது. தேசிய விருதை அந்தக் கனமே முடிவு செய்திருப்பார்கள் என்று அந்தக் காட்சியை பார்க்கும்போதெல்லாம் நினைத்துக்கொள்வேன்.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Sep 11 3:39:06 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Back to the Topic.. "Moontram Pirai" -Intha Title-kkum intha padathukkum enna relevant?

  
  
  anything relevance to mentally handicapped?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 3:40:02 2007.

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  Roshan
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 3:51:20 2007.

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  'மூன்றாம் பிறை' படத்துக்கு கமல் தேசிய விருது பெற்றது குறித்து பலர் பல விதமாக தெரிந்த மாதிரி கூறுவது வேடிக்கையாக இருக்கும் .முதலில் ஸ்ரீதேவிக்கு தான் தேசிய விருது கொடுக்க நினைத்ததாகவும் ,கிளைமாக்ஸ்-ல் கமல் நடித்த அந்த ஒரு நடிப்புக்காக மட்டுமே கமலுக்கு மாற்றி விட்டதாகவும் தேர்வுக்கமிட்டியில் கூட இருந்தது போல கூறக் கேட்டிருக்கிறேன் ..சிறந்த நடிகை ,சிறந்த நடிகர் விருது தனித்தனியானது .எப்படி அவை ஒன்றுக்கொன்று பாதிக்கவோ போட்டியாகவோ இருக்க முடியுமென்று தெரியவில்லை .பலர் இங்கு சொன்னது போல கமலுக்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்ட விருது வெறும் கிளைமாக்ஸ் நடிப்புக்காக கொடுக்கப்படது அல்ல .படம் முழுக்க இழையோடும் கமலின் நுண்ணிய ,இயல்பான நடிப்புக்கு ஒட்டு மொத்தமாக கொடுக்கப்பட்டது என்பது என் கருத்து.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 3:57:02 2007.

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• From: sriranga on Tue Sep 11 4:00:55 2007.

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  was sridevi nominated for best actress?
  who won the award that year?
  
  

• From: Raikkonen on Tue Sep 11 4:04:28 2007.

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  i like the songs and climax and some scenes like subramani scene and patti scenes..
  apart from that, i feel this movie is quite over-rated and has some really un-necessary scenes with Silku and YGM..
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 4:22:13 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Joe

  
  
  இது மட்டுமல்ல .இன்னொருவர் சொன்னதை கேளுங்க ..தேவர் மகன் படத்துக்கு கமலுக்கு அவார்டு கொடுக்கப்போனாங்களாம் .எல்லாமே ஓகே .ஆனால் அந்த சிலம்பம் சண்டையில கமல் காலால மண்ணை அள்ளி எதிரி கண்ணுல போட்டுடுவாரு .இந்த ஒரு சின்ன மிஸ்டேக்-கால அந்த அவார்ட் மிஸ் ஆயிடுச்சு "-ன்னு ரொம்ப சீரியஸா வருத்தப்பட்டார் ..நான் எங்க போய் முட்டிக்கிறது?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Sep 11 4:29:40 2007.

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  Raikkonen wrote:

  i like the songs and climax and some scenes like subramani scene and patti scenes.. apart from that, i feel this movie is quite over-rated and has some really un-necessary scenes with Silku and YGM..

  
  
  This misconception needs to be corrected. And, the film has much more than just another 'tragic love' story theme. Thou I shall not do it right now, I will do so, little later. CR, PR and Kannannn kindly pitch in.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Sep 11 4:36:08 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  BR-Ilaiyaan combination pathi enna solradhu - Deadly!

  
  
  BM-Ilaiyaan
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 4:50:09 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  இது மட்டுமல்ல .இன்னொருவர் சொன்னதை கேளுங்க ..தேவர் மகன் படத்துக்கு கமலுக்கு அவார்டு கொடுக்கப்போனாங்களாம் .எல்லாமே ஓகே .ஆனால் அந்த சிலம்பம் சண்டையில கமல் காலால மண்ணை அள்ளி எதிரி கண்ணுல போட்டுடுவாரு .இந்த ஒரு சின்ன மிஸ்டேக்-கால அந்த அவார்ட் மிஸ் ஆயிடுச்சு "-ன்னு ரொம்ப சீரியஸா வருத்தப்பட்டார் ..நான் எங்க போய் முட்டிக்கிறது?

  
  
  I heard another version.. in the flood scenes, miniatures ellam thannila adichuttu pogum... and andha kozhandhai madhiri oru bommai irukkum.. indha "mistake"-nala dhaan padathukku award kedaikkalayaam
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 4:50:37 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: BR-Ilaiyaan combination pathi enna solradhu - Deadly! BM-Ilaiyaan

  
  ippo thavarittEn, inimE thavara mAttEn
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 4:56:23 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  ippo thavarittEn, inimE thavar mAttEn

  thavarulayE oru thavaru? eppadi?
  
  

• From: Pras on Tue Sep 11 4:56:31 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  joe wrote: Back to the Topic.. "Moontram Pirai" -Intha Title-kkum intha padathukkum enna relevant? anything relevance to mentally handicapped?

  
  
  someone explained me it is because the moondram pirai never stays for a long time, or something like that ...
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 4:59:05 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: ippo thavarittEn, inimE thavar mAttEn thavarulayE oru thavaru? eppadi?

  
  "I veri bissi"
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 5:02:37 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  "I veri bissi"

  yeah, understood.
  busy making mistakes.
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  The climax - nenjai pisaindhu, puzhindhu, kasakki edukkum oru kaatchi... Its the nadir and the summit for the viewer and the actor, respectively... "throwing himself into the character", "getting into the skin", "becoming one with the character" - it is THIS scene.....

  This description is very apt for another kamal film, vaazhvE maayam.
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 5:03:54 2007.

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  now that we are in the 100 th page, what shall we do?
  ok, lets carry on discussions on moondraam pirai and only lock the thread at the end of it.
  
  selva, congrats on your achievement.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Sep 11 5:09:52 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  selva, congrats on your achievement.

  
  
  
  
  One of the most active, interesting and informative threads in TF section
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 5:11:03 2007.

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  செல்வா-வுக்கு வாழ்த்துக்கள்!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 5:20:07 2007.

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  Selva,
  Kalakkareenga thala..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:22:16 2007.

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  Thanks NOV,,Joe, Roshan and CR.
  Special Thanks to Joe for reminding my duty
  I thank the contributors as well
  The main purpose on why I started this was getting rare facts on few movies and discuss the special things related to the movie (ofcourse including the movie too)
  I think NOV knows the SECRET behind the present MOW and the starting of MOW
  Sila padathukku GOOGLE search potta kooda cast pathina info vara maattenguthu.
  I think this thread can be a wonderful repository for all movie related info
  Anyway, Thanks to the contributors and those who nominated many movies !
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 5:37:03 2007.

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  I heard that Kannadasan wrote 'Kanne Kalaimane" in hurry at Airport rushing to US for treatment ..But unfortuately It was his last song ,yet became one of immortal songs of TFM history.. vazhga Kannadasan pugazh!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:41:36 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I heard that Kannadasan wrote 'Kanne Kalaimane" in hurry at Airport rushing to US for treatment ..But unfortuately It was his last song ,yet became one of immortal songs of TFM history.. vazhga Kannadasan pugazh!

  
  
  "Aeno Deivam Sathi Seithathu"
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 5:43:59 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: I heard that Kannadasan wrote 'Kanne Kalaimane" in hurry at Airport rushing to US for treatment ..But unfortuately It was his last song ,yet became one of immortal songs of TFM history.. vazhga Kannadasan pugazh! "Aeno Deivam Sathi Seithathu"

  
  
  கண்ணே கலைமானே என்ற தாலாட்டுக்கு மயங்கி இறைவன் கண்ணதாசனை தன்னிடம் அழைத்துக்கொண்டானோ - சதி செய்து
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Sep 11 5:44:53 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: ippo thavarittEn, inimE thavar mAttEn thavarulayE oru thavaru? eppadi?

  
  
  i think he has just listened some Vijay Antony songs
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Tue Sep 11 5:46:53 2007.

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  kudos to Selva
  
  Keep hubbing
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:47:21 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  கண்ணே கலைமானே என்ற தாலாட்டுக்கு மயங்கி இறைவன் கண்ணதாசனை தன்னிடம் அழைத்துக்கொண்டானோ - சதி செய்து

  
  Yup !
  
  [dig] Joe,
  Any idea on the last MGR / NT movie for which Kannadaasan wrote the lyrics ?
  [dig]
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:48:03 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  kudos to Selva Keep hubbing

  
  Thanks brother and ofcourse I will
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 5:48:13 2007.

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  Sanjeevi wrote:

  i think he has just listened some Vijay Antony songs

  
  
  Company-a yen thol-la thaangi thol pattai valikkidhu.. adhanaala tongue silip aara madhiri kai silip aagudhu
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:50:47 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: joe wrote: Back to the Topic.. "Moontram Pirai" -Intha Title-kkum intha padathukkum enna relevant? anything relevance to mentally handicapped? someone explained me it is because the moondram pirai never stays for a long time, or something like that ...

  
  
  I don't think so !
  It might be true. But Pirai yoda sustainability eppadi namakku theriyum. If I am not wrong, the difference will be very minute. Right ?
  
  I think Sanjeevi might be right.
  
  Veterans can answer this.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:56:58 2007.

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  http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=48567
  
  
  17. KANNE KALAIMAANE
  
  

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  The one song that would go down in history is Kanne Kalaimaane in MOONDRAAM PIRAI. That was the last song that Kannadasan wrote for us. When Ilayaraja started to sing in his childhood days, he went for the songs written by Kannadasan and sung by P. Suseela. His all-time favourite song was MAALAI POZHUTHIN MAYAKKATHILE in the film BAGYALECHUMY. Ilayaraja had sung this song and won awards in his school in Devaram. It is this song that has made Ilayaraja what he is today, according to his own admission. There is a line in this song, which goes: Ilamai Ellam Verum Kanavu Mayam- Ithil MarainthathuSila Kaalam Thelivum ariyaathu Mudiuvum theriyaathu Mayanguthu Ethirkaalam Mayanguthu Ethirkaalam Youthful days have been spent as a dream. However, the future is till obscure. Therefore Ilayaraja used to meditate on the meaning. He felt that the song emphasised on the need to make a decision for the future. There and then he decided to shape his future and so decided to take up music for his career. He always felt that this song of Kannadasan would be relevant and meaningful for all years to come. So he is today an MD in a way, owing to this song that triggered off his determination to shape a clear cut future for himself. There is an impact of Kannadasan in his life. When Raja was assisting other MDs, especially GK Vengakatesh, he had contributed in the composing of the tune for the songs of Kannadasan. One such song was of course THEN SINTHUTHE VAANAM in PONNUKKU THANGA MANSU. But Raja had no opportunity to consort and associate with the great poet. It was only during his second film PAALOOTTI VALARTHA KILI that Ilayaraja had an opportunity to work with Kannadasan directly. When Ilayaraja was introduced to Kannadasan, the poet commented, “I guessed this must be Ilayaraja.” In the song Kannodu Kannu from PAALOOTTI VALARTHA KILI, Kannadasan added a line “VAA RAAJA VAA”. Ilayaraja felt that it was a welcome signal from Kannadasan. Raja considered that a great blessing. After that they worked together in many other movies, and all the songs of Kannadasan still occupy a special place in the musical career of the Maestro. Meanwhile, when Ilayaraja picked up misunderstanding with some who were very close to Kannadasan, Kannadasan too jumped into the bandwagon and made a very strong statements hitting hard at Ilayaraja. (Details censured) Ilayaraja was naturally sad. Owing to this sad state of affairs Ilayaraja did not use Kannadasan for some time. But deep inside, Ilayaraja felt a great vacuum in the songs that he composed. Later, at a marriage function held at the Rajeswary Marriage hall, Kannadasan was seated in the front row. Ilayaraja who happened to pass Kannadasan enquired “How are you poet? Are you fine?” Kannadasan immediately responded, “When had the poets ever been fine without the support of the Rajas?” Ilayaraja took note of the wittiness of Kannadasan. CONTINUES... Soon old wounds were healed. On another occasion, Ilayaraja wanted to compose music, and wanted quality lyrics. So he sent his assistant “ Please bring our poet.” The assistant asked Ilayaraja “Which poet?” Ilayaraja angrily remarked, “What do you mean which poet? As if you do not know that poet in the cine industry refers to only one person, and that is Kannadasan?” Thereafter they started to work together and produce further gems. In 1980, Kannadasan was not feeling well and was getting prepared to leave for Chicago for medical treatment. It was at this time that the film MONRAAM PIRAI was in the making. Ilayaraja sent for a song, and Kannadasan gave the song. That was the last song of the greatest poet the cine field had ever seen. As soon as Ilayaraja received the lyrics, he was overcome with untold sorrow. Ilayaraja himself is a writer of lyrics. He read and re- read the lyrics and sought to grasp the hidden meaning. Ilayaraja somehow had a premonition that this song would be the very last song from Kannadasan. He felt that Kannadasan had a message that he was leaving the Tamil people, the Tamil language and Tamilnaadu forever. That song was needed for a moving situation in the movie. In a very moving mood, Ilayaraja composed music for that song. And true enough Kannadasan never came back.. The poet’s first song is Kalangathiru Maname. His last song is Kanne Kalaimaane He hailed from Chiru Koodal Patti He passed away in Chicago. That last song of the poet brought crowning fame to Ilayaraja as the MD, Jesudass as the most appropriate singer, and by extension to Kamal Hasan as the one who provided lip movements. Jesudass had a great liking for this song. I personally would like to trademark this song as a land mark song as Raja was the only privileged MD to have been bestowed this high honour of composing the last song of one whom I consider the greatest poet Tamilnadu has seen in recent days Kannadasan. That was not the end of the story. Ilayaraja who was so sad following the passing of Kannadasan, continued to compose for his songs. This time he used a poem that Kannadasan had composed much earlier. That is “Devan Thantha Veenai” from the film Unnai Naan Chanthithen. In my opinion this ranks top among the landmark songs of Ilayaraja. Just look at the lyrics: Kannae kalaimaanae kanni mayilenak kandaen unai naanaeandhip pagal unai naan paarkkiraen aandavanai idhaiththaan kaetkiraen raariraaroa oaraariroa raariraaroa oaraariroa (kannae) oomai enraal oru vagai amaidhi aezhai enraal adhil oru amaidhi neeyoa kilippaedu pan paadum aanandak kuyil paedu aeno dheyvam sadhi seydhadhu paedhai poala vidhi seydhadhu (kannae) kaadhal kondaen kanavinai valarththaen kanmani unai naan karuththinnil niraiththaen unakkae uyiraanaen ennaalum enai nee maravaadhae neeyillaamal edhu nimmadhi needhaanae en sannidhi (kannae)

  
  

• From: mr_karthik on Tue Sep 11 5:57:39 2007.

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  kamal's overaction(only climax) and logicless climax makes it a sure-miss movie for me....... u can watch "engirondho vandhaal" - a shivaji movie with similar storyline where shivaji becomes a "mentally disturbed" person........later when he regains normalcy, he forgets Jayalalitha who helps him......but when told to him abt her help to him during his "mental" state, he starts liking her for the service she had done to him....absolutely normal/logical ending

  
  
  1970க்கு அந்த கிளைமாக்ஸ் சரி.
  
  1982க்கு இந்த கிளைமாக்ஸ் சரி
  
  அப்படீன்னு எடுத்துக்குவோம்.
  
  (இல்லேன்னா தேவையில்லாத விவாதம் தொடங்கி அது ஒரு தனி ட்ராக்கில் போய்க்கிட்டிருக்கும்)
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  my parents tell me, as a 10 month kid, i used to shake my body a lot for "ponmeni, urugadhae" song

  
  
  உங்களுக்கே இது கொஞ்சம் ஓவரா தெரியலை...????.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 5:59:38 2007.

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  mr_karthik wrote:

  MADDY wrote: my parents tell me, as a 10 month kid, i used to shake my body a lot for "ponmeni, urugadhae" song உங்களுக்கே இது கொஞ்சம் ஓவரா தெரியலை...????.

  
  
  Avar vanthu SIMPLE ah "Illa" nnu sollittu poyiduvaar (just kidding)
  My brother used to make fun of "Ponmeni" song everytime when we discuss about this movie.
  
  Poornam viswanathan episodes
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 6:09:47 2007.

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  http://www.geocities.com/bbreviews/month/mpirai.html
  
  MOONDRAAM PIRAI
  
  A movie review by Balaji Balasubramaniam
  Cast: Kamalhassan, Sridevi, 'Silk' Smitha, Y.G.Mahendran, Seetha Paatti, 'Poornam' Viswanathan
  Music: Ilaiyaraja
  Direction: Balu Mahendra
  
  It is such a pleasure to see two great performers square off against each other. And that is exactly what Balu Mahendra's Moondraam Pirai is all about. Sure, the movie contains a tender, touching story, mellifluous music and is beautifully photographed. But the highlights of the movie are definitely the performances of it two leads. As the mentally retarded woman and her kindhearted caretaker, Sridevi and Kamalhassan go beyond acting to become the characters they portray and match each other every step of the way. Great actors individually, they are wonderful together and their unique and tender relationship is lovingly depicted by Balu Mahendra.
  
  Kamalhassan deserves praise for his courage in accepting this role. Sridevi has the livelier, more visible role that also offers greater oppurtunity for histrionics because of the nature of her character. Kamal has to underplay his part and almost play second fiddle to her most of the time. It is only in the climax that he gets the oppurtunity to display his limitless talent. But in the end, he walked away with the National Award for his role(his first of three) while Sridevi was left awardless (soon after the awards were announced, Kumudam had a cartoon titled "What people are thinking" which showed Sridevi deciding that from then onwards, she was going to act only with actors like Pratap Pothan so that her performance gets noticed!). ( Is it true that Sridevi changed her career path after this ? )
  
  When Lakshmi(Sridevi) is involved in a car accident, she ends up remembering only the events in her life that happened until she was six or seven years old. Fooled by some evil men in the hospital, she ends up in a brothel where Srinivasan(Kamalhassan), also called Cheenu, a headmaster of a school in Ooty, finds her. Realising the sorry state she is in, he takes her back with him to Ooty and becomes her self-appointed guardian. Theirs becomes a symbiotic relationship, she relieving his loneliness and he, saving her from the big, bad world. The police catch up with them just as Cheenu takes her to a local homeopath who gives him hope of curing her.
  
  Sridevi astonishes us with her performance and proves that glamor need not necessarily be at the expense of talent. When playing a mentally retarded patient, there is a very thin line between acting and overacting and she remains on the right side of this line always. Her fear when Kamal nears her in the brothel, her anger when he rebukes her and her innocent giggle when he makes her laugh are all completely genuine and captivate us. Its a tour de force performance and every frame she is in reveals another facet of the character. Kamalhassan starts off easy and gradually increases his emoting before finally peaking in the climax. His facial contortions when he acts like a monkey, both in the climax and before, are amazing. The climax, starting with his run down the mountain(his fall over the car and into the mud seems to have been done by him and not a stuntman) and ending at the train station, is one of the longest, sustained acting performances I remember in tamil cinema. At the end, as he lies on the platform, you can see that life has drained out of him.
  
  The relationship between Kamal and Sridevi is the heart of the movie and very cute. There are several laughs here as she earns his ire and turns to Seetha Paatti for support or enjoys his 'monkeying around'. A cute little dog that Sridevi names Subramani, also takes part in the fun. The sequence where Kamal searches for her all day only to find her sitting at home when he returns and his dream where a cured Sridevi dresses up in a sari and attends to him, are touching. The climax is one of the strongpoints of the movie. Kamal's attempts to catch Sridevi's attention are brilliantly performed and very touching. When he cries as she throws him a coin thinking he is a beggar and then walks into a lamppost, the impact is forceful. The entire climax is emotionally draining and its impossible to not have a lump in the throat as Kamal calls after her and walks in the rain, alone and weary.
  
  'Silk' Smitha appears in an unconnected track as the sexually frustrated wife of an old husband and has her eyes on Kamal but he resolutely resists her bold advances. Though completely unnecessary and having no bearing on the story, one positive aspect of this line is that Balu Mahendra treats this track seriously and does not introduce cheap comedy in an attempt to bring a comedy element to the movie. So the sequences are not as irritating as the ones in the track in Idhayathai Thirudaathey. The Ponmeni... song sequence is picturised very well with Kamal and Silk dancing on the greenland. The number is quite erotic but never vulgar.
  
  Music and photography are two more pillars on which the movie stands tall. Balu Mahendra is probably the only well-known director who had Ilaiyaraja as the music director for all his movies and Ilaiyaraja responded in kind with some brilliant songs for his movies. Here he shines in all the songs and the background music. Kanne Kalaimaane..., which incidentally, was Kannadasan's last song as lyricist, is so soothing and comforting while Poongaatru... is also melodious. Kamal and Sridevi have a lot of fun during Munbu Oru Kaalathila... while the whole track involving 'Silk' Smitha can almost be forgiven for Ponmeni Uruguthey.... Vaanengum..., which opens the movie, is probably the least known of the songs but is very catchy. Balu Mahendra, also responsible for the photography, makes Ooty come alive in all its natural splendor. His camera captures the vivid greenery lovingly and takes us right there.
  
  In the sky of tamil cinema, Moondraam Pirai shines as one of the brightest full moons.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Sep 11 6:12:24 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  [dig] Joe, Any idea on the last MGR / NT movie for which Kannadaasan wrote the lyrics ? [dig]

  
  
  Not sure about NT ,But for MT ,kannadasan wrote in MT's last but one movie Meenava Nanban.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 6:12:59 2007.

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  Selva,
  <Dig>
  Just a doubt? why so much emphasis and importance for this guy BB's reviews?
  </Dig>
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Sep 11 6:34:47 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Selva, <Dig> Just a doubt? why so much emphasis and importance for this guy BB's reviews? </Dig>

  
  
  Enakkum athE doubtthAn ?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 6:44:00 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Selva, <Dig> Just a doubt? why so much emphasis and importance for this guy BB's reviews? </Dig>

  
  He has posted many of his reviews in the net and they have been replicated across many popular tamil film sites. The moment we search for any popular movies, hsi reviews are displayed.
  So, ethukku prachanainnu athayum post panniduraen
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 11 6:54:00 2007.

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  MADDY wrote:

  my parents tell me, as a 10 month kid, i used to shake my body a lot for "ponmeni, urugadhae" song

  maddy, neeenga namma aalu
  FYI, that silk-poornam roles never featured in the 1st copy, but distributers wanted baalu to add some commercial aspect to the movie, so it was shot later seperately and added. also the ponmeni song, which is the climax ! of that track
  
  1) i read thru all posts on this movie, pls all hubbers get to know that this is a film where Sir plays a role of motherly care to sridevi[apart from love interests] i dont think any kamal movie with similar char. those days of heroism.....again kamal wins
  
  that itself adds specialty,
  
  2) this movie made me a kamal fan. i never forget this movie
  
  3) i was called as viji in my home[original name = vijay]. in climax, many times kamal shouts that name. usuall we as a kids gang will see movies, so all laughs at me[make fun that he calls me...], but still i wasnt distracted and was tearing....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 6:57:09 2007.

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  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

  3) i was called as viji in my home[original name = vijay]. in climax, many times kamal shouts that name. usuall we as a kids gang will see movies, so all laughs at me[make fun that he calls me...], but still i wasnt distracted and was tearing....

  
  
  Viji........Viji............Vijiiiii
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 11 7:02:07 2007.

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  selva
  now no one calls me so, after my strict order thatswhy i said "i was called"
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Sep 11 7:11:19 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: 3) i was called as viji in my home[original name = vijay]. in climax, many times kamal shouts that name. usuall we as a kids gang will see movies, so all laughs at me[make fun that he calls me...], but still i wasnt distracted and was tearing.... Viji........Viji............Vijiiiii

  
  
  Viji........Viji............cheenu Vijiiiii
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 7:23:29 2007.

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  Looks like this movie is serving as a "Great nostalgia accelerator" for many
  Few movies, we LOVE and defend them at any time since they will be very close to our heart. After this, even if there are many path-breaking movies that surpass these movies, our HEART will still keep the special place reserved for these movies.
  Moondraam Pirai is one such movie
  
  
  BM - IR - KH combo ithukkappuram aen serala entha padathukkum except SathiLeelavathy ?
  
  My brother told me that BM had directed KH in a Mallu movie that had Sheela in a pivotal role. But heard that the theme was weird one for the tamil audience. Anyone know the name of the movie that I am referring to ?
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Sep 11 8:07:50 2007.

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  maddy,
  
  the "character seenu" overacts to catch viji's attention...
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Tue Sep 11 9:11:58 2007.

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  Dear Selva,
  
  Moondram Pirai was a 1982 movie and not 1983. If my memory serves me right it was released on 19th Feb 1982 and Vaazhve Maayam had just been released on 26th Jan ( NOV, adhunalathan ungalukku oru Vaazhve Maayam ninaivu vandhirukirathu).
  
  Regarding the movie, ellorum solli vittargal. But two things that would remain in my mind are
  
  When Natraj try to molest Sri in that workshop, she would be rescued and suddenly Sri would say " Supramani". Kamal would go in search of the dog and find it in a tank. On lifting it he would find it is immersed in Paasi. He will comment " Paasamulla Nay(ee)"!
  (Aanal indha mathiriyana Kamalin melliya nagaisuvaigalai niraya peraal purindhukollave maattargal enbathuthan sogam).
  
  Second thing is Kamal would buy a saree for Sri and ask her to wear it. He would be sitting in the hall and we would see Sridevi coming out in that red saree and the way she looks and smiles and way her eyes would invite Kamal to come near, a beautiful romantic scene would start to unfold. There would be a sudden jolt and Kamal would find Sri standing with the saree woven so clumsily and he would come back to his senses.
  
  Sri: C -- A -- M --E--L = Kamal
  
  Kamal: Athu Kamal illai, Camel.
  
  Sri : Camel. Camel -na enna?
  
  Kamal: Ottagam.
  
  Sri: Ottagam-na?
  
  Kamal: Athudhan indha Palaivanathilellam mootaiai ellam sumandhuttu pokume, indha Arabs ellam kooda athu mela utkarndhttu -- Ottagam
  
  Regards
  
  PS : Selva, neengalum BR endrae ezhuthi irukeergal. BM never did a Malayalam movie with Kamal. The movie you are mentioning is Eetta and it was directed by IV Sasi. Balu Mahendra did the camera work for Ponni starring Kamal and Lakshmi.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Sep 11 10:03:02 2007.

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  Murali sir,
  Yes. I did post BR instead of BM. Later edited it.
  
  Eetta I thought that BM had a great role in that. quite surprised to hear that he didnt have any role in the movie. There is little information on Eetta in the net as well.
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Sep 11 10:25:58 2007.

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  eppadi ippadi
  

  Devar Magan wrote:

  maddy, the "character seenu" overacts to catch viji's attention...

  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Sep 11 12:36:33 2007.

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  ajithfederer wrote:

  eppadi ippadi Devar Magan wrote: maddy, the "character seenu" overacts to catch viji's attention...

  
  
  No..... it should be in this way...... for example if u want to turn the attention of a child towards u... then u hav to over act..... so kamal does a similar thing.....
  
  ungalukku andha madhiri oru nilai vandhal neengalum adhayedhan seidhirupeergal or adhupondru veru edhavadhu...... summa vandhu ninnukittu..... "naandhan seenu.... unnai kapathunavan... etc etc'nu" dialogue pesuna sari pattu varadhu
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 20:12:12 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  I think NOV knows the SECRET behind the present MOW and the starting of MOW

  
  ayyO naan appaavi
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Sep 11 20:17:41 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  I heard that Kannadasan wrote 'Kanne Kalaimane" in hurry at Airport rushing to US for treatment ..But unfortuately It was his last song ,yet became one of immortal songs of TFM history.. vazhga Kannadasan pugazh!

  Contrary to popular opinion, I read/heard somewhere that kannE kalaimaanE was NOT kannadhasan's last song, but after he died it seemed the most appropriate to be remembered as his last song. Don't ask me for proof; I dont have any.
  
  Just like Sivaji is always said to be "from Parasakthi to Padayappa," like what a wonderful coincidence it was! Pa to Pa, amman to sivan, etc.
  Whereas Sivaji had actually acted in a couple more films after Padayappa.
  
  But what can be said with certainty is that kannE kalaimaanE indeed was the last few of songs written by the great poet.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Sep 12 1:29:31 2007.

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  Why the remade Hindi version didn't do well ?
  
  

• From: sriranga on Wed Sep 12 3:35:41 2007.

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  sridevi: intha maram ellam yen oyarama irukku.
  kamal: vanathukku ottada adikathan ippadi oyarama irukku.
  
  sridevi thodachifies echai on kamal and when he gives a look, thodachifies that with her pavadai.
  
  i liked the climax. you couldn't have had a better ending to the film.
  
  

• From: dell_gt on Wed Sep 12 4:59:38 2007.

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  my father says "moondram pirai" mean
  
  1st Pirai --> Sri Devi was ok
  2nd Pirai --> Sri Devi mentally ill
  Moondram Pirai --> She back to normal and 4get our kamal sir
  
  
  one of great movie in tamil movie history.... kamal sir n sri devi acting "top class"....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 5:05:45 2007.

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  dell_gt wrote:

  my father says "moondram pirai" mean 1st Pirai --> Sri Devi was ok 2nd Pirai --> Sri Devi mentally ill Moondram Pirai --> She back to normal and 4get our kamal sir one of great movie in tamil movie history.... kamal sir n sri devi acting "top class"....

  
  
  
  I was about to post this !
  was shocked when I read your post.
  Konja neram namakku theriyaama post pannittoemannu nenachen.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Sep 12 5:32:46 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  dell_gt wrote: my father says "moondram pirai" mean 1st Pirai --> Sri Devi was ok 2nd Pirai --> Sri Devi mentally ill Moondram Pirai --> She back to normal and 4get our kamal sir one of great movie in tamil movie history.... kamal sir n sri devi acting "top class".... I was about to post this ! was shocked when I read your post. Konja neram namakku theriyaama post pannittoemannu nenachen.

  
  
  Unga appavum athe thaan sonnaara?
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed Sep 12 5:34:01 2007.

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• From: mr_karthik on Wed Sep 12 5:36:45 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: I heard that Kannadasan wrote 'Kanne Kalaimane" in hurry at Airport rushing to US for treatment ..But unfortuately It was his last song ,yet became one of immortal songs of TFM history.. vazhga Kannadasan pugazh! Contrary to popular opinion, I read/heard somewhere that kannE kalaimaanE was NOT kannadhasan's last song, but after he died it seemed the most appropriate to be remembered as his last song. Don't ask me for proof; I dont have any. Just like Sivaji is always said to be "from Parasakthi to Padayappa," like what a wonderful coincidence it was! Pa to Pa, amman to sivan, etc. Whereas Sivaji had actually acted in a couple more films after Padayappa. But what can be said with certainty is that kannE kalaimaanE indeed was the last few of songs written by the great poet.

  
  
  Yes.......
  
  It is same like 90% of people (wrongly) telling, "Aayiram Nilave vaa" is the first song for SPB in Tamil, whereas actually it is his FIFTH song
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 5:37:01 2007.

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  Joe
  Pras
  
  My Father didn't tell this to me. I donno who told this to me.
  But I know few who give this explanation for this title.
  
  btw, BM indha titleukku enna meaning sonnaaru ? Any idea
  
  

• From: Kumar on Wed Sep 12 6:11:04 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Joe Pras My Father didn't tell this to me. I donno who told this to me. But I know few who give this explanation for this title. btw, BM indha titleukku enna meaning sonnaaru ? Any idea

  
  
  I'm trying to recollect as much as I can; but I seem to remember that the phrase 'moondram pirai' was mentioned in the movie by a doctor to describe Sri Devi's condition.....either that or I just imagined it.
  
  Hats off to Sri Devi for a stellar performance. I think she was the right choice for this role. It would have been tricky for her as the character had to have child-like qualities (not childish behaviour). She did well not to over-do it (none of that wide-eyed, loud and brash "haiya, naan paithiyam, haiya" sort of stuff). One scene that made me laugh out loud when I first saw it in the '80s is the train scene; Sri Devi is on board the train while Kamal is deep in conversation on the platform. She spots an ice-cream seller and yells out "ICE CREAM!!" to get his attention. Her scream sounded as unplanned an innocent as a child's scream.
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 12 6:37:12 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Kamalhassan deserves praise for his courage in accepting this role.

  
  
  Funny that this statement should come from Balaji. Kamal had done far tougher roles than this before '82. He was only in his early twenties when he did 16 Vayathinile (24 to be exact). Anyway, National Awards do not awe me. NT-kku kodukka vakkilla, ivanungga yaarukku kodutta enakkenna.
  
  Having said that, Kamal deserved any awards for this role. Sri Devi, bless her for not screwing up her role, did what Brando calls, "actor-proof" role. You can never go wrong if the character is well written, especially the character has disabilities. Mental problem, deaf, mute, blind, etc, are easy to catch the audience's attention and even Oscars fall for the actors who does those roles. It's playing a regular character who carries pain throughout the movie that is tough, and Kamal pulled it off beautifully.
  
  Again, credit should also go to BM's writing and directing.
  
  

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  groucho070 wrote:

  did what Brando calls, "actor-proof" role. You can never go wrong if the character is well written, especially the character has disabilities. Mental problem, deaf, mute, blind, etc, are easy to catch the audience's attention and even Oscars fall for the actors who does those roles.

  
  <Dig>
  Agree with your point on actor-proof roles but totally disagree w.r.t the "mental problem" thing. I mean, yeah, its the easiest to grab some attention but it does not imply ALL "mental problem" roles are easy or that anybody can do justice to that role. In other words, especially because it is easy to go wrong (though popular) doing such a role, only a FEW can do it right.
  In fact, there is no SINGLE thing as a "mental problem"...
  
  Let me not go far (read KH ) and quote from a recent example - Lal in Tanmatra.. superb performance.. no attention-grabbing komALithanam, which sadly has been mistaken for "madness"...
  
  IMO, nInga refer paNradhukku oru example - Kaadhal climax. Not a bad performance per se, but it exactly fits what you've described - a crowd-pleasing actor-proof role...
  
  </Dig>
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Sep 12 7:55:09 2007.

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  Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back.
  
  On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky.
  
  That is how I read the title.
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Wed Sep 12 8:07:39 2007.

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  Dear Bala,
  
  Lal's character in Thanmatra suffers from Alzheimer’s which is basically a problem where a person suffers memory loss. This normally happens at the old age (eg: Ronald Reagan) but in this film the same strikes a middle aged person and it documents the plight of the other family members due to this. I doubt whether this could come under "Mental problem".
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 12 8:18:09 2007.

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  Murali Srinivas wrote:

  Dear Bala, Lal's character in Thanmatra suffers from Alzheimer’s which is basically a problem where a person suffers memory loss. This normally happens at the old age (eg: Ronald Reagan) but in this film the same strikes a middle aged person and it documents the plight of the other family members due to this. I doubt whether this could come under "Mental problem". Regards

  
  Murali Sir,
  That was exactly what i was referring to.
  
  To elaborate on my stand, Alzheimer's is a problem of the brain (neuro), as is autism (Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man), for example. In other words, they are "mental problems" though they are very much different from each other. adhAvadhu, in most Tamil/Indian films, every such disorder is treated under a single blanket label "mental problem" without distinction whereby the depiction is that of child-like komALi behavior.
  andha mAdhiri paNradhu dhAn escaping with actor-proof roles/performances...
  How an autist behaves is different from how an alzheimer's does, which in turn is different from someone who is a psychoneurotic (Guna)... Its difficult to take refuge under the actor-proof escape routes if the actor has to be convincing playing these roles...Not every actor can do it convincingly..Infact, IMO even *writing* such characters is difficult...
  
  

• From: Murali Srinivas on Wed Sep 12 8:37:14 2007.

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  Bala,
  
  I got it. What you are saying is absolutely true. But to "write" such characters (as you rightly said) it needs deep understanding of the subject and few Indian directors care to do their home work. But luckily Blessy (who did Thanmatra and who also did Kaazcha and later Palingu) is one among the few who promises much.
  
  Regards
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 12 8:39:11 2007.

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• From: Pras on Wed Sep 12 8:41:53 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title.

  
  
  that's what i wanted to say ...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 8:54:00 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title.

  
  
  But Idhukkum Padathoda "Subject" ukkum enna sambantham !
  Are they referring to the "Short Relationship b/w KH and Sri that disappears within short ! time"
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Sep 12 8:57:23 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title. But Idhukkum Padathoda "Subject" ukkum enna sambantham ! Are they referring to the "Short Relationship b/w KH and Sri that disappears within short ! time"

  
  
  Sridevi is the moonram pirai in Kamal's life
  
  

• From: Pras on Wed Sep 12 9:10:20 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title. But Idhukkum Padathoda "Subject" ukkum enna sambantham ! Are they referring to the "Short Relationship b/w KH and Sri that disappears within short ! time"

  
  
  i don't know my father didn't tell me about that
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 9:12:25 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  i don't know my father didn't tell me about that

  
  soonathu PR thaane.
  Avar kitta idha solli irukkalaam
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Sep 12 9:48:06 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: dell_gt wrote: my father says "moondram pirai" mean 1st Pirai --> Sri Devi was ok 2nd Pirai --> Sri Devi mentally ill Moondram Pirai --> She back to normal and 4get our kamal sir one of great movie in tamil movie history.... kamal sir n sri devi acting "top class".... I was about to post this ! was shocked when I read your post. Konja neram namakku theriyaama post pannittoemannu nenachen. Unga appavum athe thaan sonnaara?

  
  
  may be andha kaala magazinesla ippadi define panni irukkalam
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Sep 12 13:01:30 2007.

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  'mUndrAm PirAi' - one of the best movie for UN!
  
  The climax was really a touchy one for me.Great acting no words to decribe.
  
  Songs are the additional plus for this movie. Especially "pUngAtru" and the ever green "KannE".
  
  "Oomai endrAl adhil oru amaidhi..
  Yezhai endrAl adhil oru amaidhi.."
  
  - Golden lines...!
  
  and..
  
  "UnakkE uyir Anen ennAlum enai nee maravAdhE" - I guess this line is the foreseen one for the climax!!
  
  Baalumahendra cant be listed under classic directors just for one reason. He will unnecessarly add an erotic songs in all his movies just for commercial purposes.Correct me if I am wrong!
  "ponmEni urugudhE" is really a needless piece . It even continued in his latest Dhanush movie[with Thejashree] "AOKK".
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Sep 12 13:10:51 2007.

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  SS that is exactly his artistic arogance.
  
  When Veedu and Sandhya Raagam bombed, he made a crass film. Brothers separated, reuiniting with family song , mother raped and brothers avenge, silambu fight, kuthu paattu, silk dance.... he named the movie : "neengaL kEttavai"
  
  So the ill-fitting songs are a sort of mini neengaL kEttavai.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Sep 12 13:20:49 2007.

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  Thanks PR. But dont you think its silliness?
  People might respect your work or they may not, you need to maintain your class!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Sep 12 13:53:11 2007.

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  Pras wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title. that's what i wanted to say ...

  
  
  This is what I was also told - by my Father
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Sep 12 13:54:05 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  Thanks PR. But dont you think its silliness? People might respect your work or they may not, you need to maintain your class!

  True. But everyone is bound to get annoyed when good quality work is overturned in favour of mediocre output. I just like the artistic way in which he got back, with an inside joke.
  
  Another instance is the 'aasai athigam vachu' song. That song and the ensuing exchange in the preview theatre are all BM taking potshots at TFI but cleverly using what he criticizes for his movie. (another example is the vaan pOle song by K.Vishwanath in Salangai Oli)
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Sep 12 13:56:13 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  SS that is exactly his artistic arogance. When Veedu and Sandhya Raagam bombed, he made a crass film. Brothers separated, reuiniting with family song , mother raped and brothers avenge, silambu fight, kuthu paattu, silk dance.... he named the movie : "neengaL kEttavai" So the ill-fitting songs are a sort of mini neengaL kEttavai.

  
  
  Oh! Good observation ! Enakku ippathAn purinjuthu 'neengaL kEttavai'-nu yEn pEr vechArnu. Thanks Prabhu
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Sep 12 14:07:38 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote: Thanks PR. But dont you think its silliness? People might respect your work or they may not, you need to maintain your class! True. But everyone is bound to get annoyed when good quality work is overturned in favour of mediocre output. I just like the artistic way in which he got back, with an inside joke. Another instance is the 'aasai athigam vachu' song. That song and the ensuing exchange in the preview theatre are all BM taking potshots at TFI but cleverly using what he criticizes for his movie. (another example is the vaan pOle song by K.Vishwanath in Salangai Oli)

  
  
  parthiban gave this explanation for Ullae veliye .... after his sugamana sumaigal is flopped
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Sep 12 14:08:58 2007.

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  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Sanguine Sridhar wrote: Thanks PR. But dont you think its silliness? People might respect your work or they may not, you need to maintain your class! True. But everyone is bound to get annoyed when good quality work is overturned in favour of mediocre output. I just like the artistic way in which he got back, with an inside joke. Another instance is the 'aasai athigam vachu' song. That song and the ensuing exchange in the preview theatre are all BM taking potshots at TFI but cleverly using what he criticizes for his movie. (another example is the vaan pOle song by K.Vishwanath in Salangai Oli) parthiban gave this explanation for Ullae veliye .... after his sugamana sumaigal is flopped

  
  
  PR, BM-ku kodutha justification ennai poruthavaraikkum Parthiban-ku porunthAthu
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Sep 12 14:13:39 2007.

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  Roshan wrote:

  PR, BM-ku kodutha justification ennai poruthavaraikkum Parthiban-ku porunthAthu

  
  
  parthiban-um oru national award vanguna directordhan - thodar thozhvigalal padhai marinaar
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Sep 12 14:16:56 2007.

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  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  "Oomai endrAl adhil oru amaidhi.. Yezhai endrAl adhil oru amaidhi.." - Golden lines...!

  add this too - Kaathal Konden, Kanavinai Valarthean
  
  

• From: kannannn on Wed Sep 12 14:58:53 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  SS that is exactly his artistic arogance. When Veedu and Sandhya Raagam bombed, he made a crass film. Brothers separated, reuiniting with family song , mother raped and brothers avenge, silambu fight, kuthu paattu, silk dance.... he named the movie : "neengaL kEttavai" So the ill-fitting songs are a sort of mini neengaL kEttavai.

  
  Oh!! I thought "NeengaL KEttavai" came much before Veedu and Sandhya Raagam. In fact, if I remember right, this one came after Moondram Pirai..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Sep 12 15:31:14 2007.

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  I think kannan's right here. Veedu and SR came out in the late 80s. Veedu had BGM from IR's 1986 classic How to Name it. neengaL kEttavi released in the early 80s if I am not wrong.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Sep 12 15:38:42 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: SS that is exactly his artistic arogance. When Veedu and Sandhya Raagam bombed, he made a crass film. Brothers separated, reuiniting with family song , mother raped and brothers avenge, silambu fight, kuthu paattu, silk dance.... he named the movie : "neengaL kEttavai" So the ill-fitting songs are a sort of mini neengaL kEttavai. Oh!! I thought "NeengaL KEttavai" came much before Veedu and Sandhya Raagam. In fact, if I remember right, this one came after Moondram Pirai..

  
  
  yeah kannan is correct. But the reason for the name "Neengal Keettavai" mentioned by PR is also correct.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 15:55:25 2007.

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  Neengal Kettavai ('84) did come before Veedu and Sandhya Ragam both of which Balu Mahendra made back to back in the late 80s (in '87 and '89, I think) when he doubtlessly seems to have been at his very best.
  
  Prabhu Ram is right about the reason behind the film's title though. I suppose Balu Mahendra was just miffed at the whole argument about making a commercial film and decided to make a film that everyone asked for. And, to his credit, the movie had a good run at the B.O., I think.
  
  But, to my mind, he failed to make (or, dish out!) a proper masala film based on the brothers-separated-at-birth formula. The film worked pretty well at the B.O. alright, but I suspect it's all thanks to Raaja!
  
  

• From: kannannn on Wed Sep 12 16:02:29 2007.

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  I too agree with PR's interpretation. But, there is a nagging doubt about BM's true intentions when he says art house movies don't have to be long and slow and when he himself succumbs to that temptation (that is not to take anything away from him as a film maker)
  
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jan/07balu.htm
  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Filmmakers have fumbled even though they had good intentions. They erroneously believe that an art film has to be very slow and unemotional. That was one of the main reasons why parallel cinema hasn't fared well in India. These so-called art filmmakers claim you should view an art film only through your head and ignore your heart. I disagree with that. A work of art should appeal to me both intellectually and emotionally.

  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 16:14:34 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  But, there is a nagging doubt about BM's true intentions when he says art house movies don't have to be long and slow and when he himself succumbs to that temptation (that is not to take anything away from him as a film maker) http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jan/07balu.htm Quote: Filmmakers have fumbled even though they had good intentions. They erroneously believe that an art film has to be very slow and unemotional. That was one of the main reasons why parallel cinema hasn't fared well in India. These so-called art filmmakers claim you should view an art film only through your head and ignore your heart. I disagree with that. A work of art should appeal to me both intellectually and emotionally.

  
  
  Kannannn,
  Yeah, I remember reading this interview. May be, he was just being self-critical there. Forget about "art films" (and, in any case, Veedu and Sandhya Raagam are, in my books, Balu Mahendra's best films, and by a margin), Neengal Kettavai, his supposed stab at making a masala potboiler is such a slow and dull film. There's a bomb-in-the-car sequence in the film that has to be seen to be believed!
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed Sep 12 17:50:30 2007.

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  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  When Veedu and Sandhya Raagam bombed, he made a crass film. Brothers separated, reuiniting with family song , mother raped and brothers avenge, silambu fight, kuthu paattu, silk dance.... he named the movie : "neengaL kEttavai" So the ill-fitting songs are a sort of mini neengaL kEttavai.

  
  Veedu & Sandhya raagam got released in the late 80's.
  Moondram Pirai was released in Feb 1982 & Neengal Kettavai was released a year after that!
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed Sep 12 17:57:19 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  I too agree with PR's interpretation. But, there is a nagging doubt about BM's true intentions when he says art house movies don't have to be long and slow and when he himself succumbs to that temptation (that is not to take anything away from him as a film maker) http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jan/07balu.htm

  
  Thanks for the link on BM's interview, Kannan!
  I'm always a big fan of BM! I love his style of film-making not to mention his creative cinematography!
  
  After reading the interview I was rally touched by the following excerpt of that interview! It's a shame that one of the finest film makers in Tamil cinema after the likes of Sridhar, KB & MR is now reduced to such a level "financially" in his personal life!
  
  
  You have been a part of this industry for 30 years. How have you grown?
  
  I have made 18 films in 30 years. I'm satisfied only with two -- Veedu and Sandhya Raagam. I have made the least number of mistakes in these films.
  
  But there is one question that has been plaguing me, particularly after my heart attack. One moment, I'm hale and hearty and the next, I am in a hospital with a heart attack. It was then that I started thinking about life. The story does not end with oneself. It extends to the family.
  
  In these 30 years, I have seen people who started with me and after me are financially better off than I. They have three cars, two houses... And I don't even have a car.
  
  I don't have any of the luxuries that those in the film industry have. God has given me the talent to make films but because of my own conviction, I've made only 18 films in 30 years. That too, the same kind of films.
  
  Now, my career is near its end. Having undergone one heart attack, I ask myself: Was I right in denying my family the comforts they would have otherwise enjoyed, had I been a little more liberal and commercial regarding my cinema?
  
  My wife has to worry about telephone and electricity bills at the end of each month. Because of my stubbornness, I used to tell the producers I would make only this kind of film -- take it or leave it. Was I right in doing that?
  
  Are material luxuries important to you?
  
  I do not want to be a hypocrite. Yes, I want to own a car. Today, my wife stands in a queue to catch a bus. I need not have compromised so much to give her some comforts but I was stubborn then.
  
  It makes me very sad, very sad now.
  
  

• From: dell_gt on Wed Sep 12 20:03:39 2007.

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  selvakumar wrote: Prabhu Ram wrote: Remember posting about the title MoondrAm piRai sometime back. On the MoondrAm piRai day the crescent is visible for a very short time. You are extremely lucky if you can spot it in the sky. It is a beautiful silver curve but it vanishes within a short time, leaving you with the barren sky. That is how I read the title. But Idhukkum Padathoda "Subject" ukkum enna sambantham ! Are they referring to the "Short Relationship b/w KH and Sri that disappears within short ! time" i don't know my father didn't tell me about that

  
  
  
  ena vechu komedy kimidi panrengela...
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Sep 12 20:35:05 2007.

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  It has been the curse of TF industry that the best have always been in poverty starting from MKT to TMS today.
  
  Instead of heaping doctorates and kalaimamamanis on the undeserving, the film fraternity would be better served if attention is given to those who had really contributed to the industry.
  
  

• From: mr_karthik on Thu Sep 13 9:50:53 2007.

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  NOV wrote:

  It has been the curse of TF industry that the best have always been in poverty starting from MKT to TMS today. Instead of heaping doctorates and kalaimamamanis on the undeserving, the film fraternity would be better served if attention is given to those who had really contributed to the industry.

  
  
  எல்லா துறைகளையும் போல திரைப்படமும் ஒரு துறை. இதுவே ஒரு வியாபாரி நொடித்துப்போய் விட்டாலோ, ஒரு தொழிலதிபர் நொடித்துப்போனாலோ நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்படுவோமா.
  
  சம்பாதிக்கும் காலத்தில், முறையான சேமிப்பு சரியான முதலீடு இல்லாததும், தேவையற்ற கெட்ட பழக்கங்களை மேற்கொள்ளலுமே இவற்றுக்கு காரணம்.
  
  'எப்போதும் பணம் இதே போல கொட்டிக்கொண்டிருக்காது. என்றைக்காவது கீழே வருவோம்' என்ற எண்ணமிருந்தால், E.C.R ரோட்டில் தண்ணி போட்டுக்கொண்டு ஆடத்தோன்றுமா?.
  
  முழுசாக ஐந்நூறு ரூபாயை பார்க்காத ஏழைகள் வாழும் நாட்டில், ஒரு படத்துக்கு நாலு கோடி வாங்குபவர்களைப் பற்றி நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்பட வேண்டுமா?.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Sep 13 20:16:40 2007.

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  We are talking about BMs and TMS... personalities who never earned in the lakhs...
  The former stood his ground on principle, while the latter was paid peanuts.
  
  There is almost no tamilian worldwide who has not benefitted/enjoyed the songs of TMS. Millions are still being raked by many from those old songs, yet the singer himself is abandoned.
  
  Today's situation is different - film making is an industry and royalty is the key word.
  
  

• From: sriranga on Fri Sep 14 0:15:52 2007.

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  mr_karthik wrote:

  NOV wrote: It has been the curse of TF industry that the best have always been in poverty starting from MKT to TMS today. Instead of heaping doctorates and kalaimamamanis on the undeserving, the film fraternity would be better served if attention is given to those who had really contributed to the industry. எல்லா துறைகளையும் போல திரைப்படமும் ஒரு துறை. இதுவே ஒரு வியாபாரி நொடித்துப்போய் விட்டாலோ, ஒரு தொழிலதிபர் நொடித்துப்போனாலோ நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்படுவோமா. சம்பாதிக்கும் காலத்தில், முறையான சேமிப்பு சரியான முதலீடு இல்லாததும், தேவையற்ற கெட்ட பழக்கங்களை மேற்கொள்ளலுமே இவற்றுக்கு காரணம். 'எப்போதும் பணம் இதே போல கொட்டிக்கொண்டிருக்காது. என்றைக்காவது கீழே வருவோம்' என்ற எண்ணமிருந்தால், E.C.R ரோட்டில் தண்ணி போட்டுக்கொண்டு ஆடத்தோன்றுமா?. முழுசாக ஐந்நூறு ரூபாயை பார்க்காத ஏழைகள் வாழும் நாட்டில், ஒரு படத்துக்கு நாலு கோடி வாங்குபவர்களைப் பற்றி நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்பட வேண்டுமா?.

  
  
  
  
  
  indhiya sudhandhirathirkaaga poraadiya thyagigal, avargal vaarisugal enna aanargal endre theriyaamal irukkum naatil,
  balu mahendra -vidam car illai endru kavalai padavathu entha vagaiyil nyayam?
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Sep 14 1:03:56 2007.

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  kannannn wrote:

  Oh!! I thought "NeengaL KEttavai" came much before Veedu and Sandhya Raagam. In fact, if I remember right, this one came after Moondram Pirai..

  I recall that he made it as he was pissed that a couple of his "good" movies bombed. I automatically assumed they were Veedu and SandhyA Raagam. I stand corrected (what were those flop movies then ?). Azhiyaadha kOlangaL ? That did have a good tun, right ?
  

  equanimus wrote:

  There's a bomb-in-the-car sequence in the film that has to be seen to be believed!

  I remember that one.
  Time-bomb ? Some inside joke ?
  
  

• From: groucho070 on Fri Sep 14 1:20:36 2007.

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  crajkumar_be wrote:

  In fact, there is no SINGLE thing as a "mental problem"... Let me not go far (read KH ) and quote from a recent example - Lal in Tanmatra.. superb performance.. no attention-grabbing komALithanam, which sadly has been mistaken for "madness"... IMO, nInga refer paNradhukku oru example - Kaadhal climax. Not a bad performance per se, but it exactly fits what you've described - a crowd-pleasing actor-proof role... </Dig>

  
  
  Digression again, sorry.
  
  Sorry bro. I had problem writing that part. Any other terms might have my behind hauled by political-correctness police, so I just generalised it that way.
  
  You are right. There is no one single illness like that. I accept my mistake and force myself to watch Guna again (which will be labour of love).
  
  Now, I am wondering...what exactly is Sri Devi's illness in this movie? She has amnesia, that is for sure. And then?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Sep 14 1:36:10 2007.

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  mr_karthik wrote:

  NOV wrote: It has been the curse of TF industry that the best have always been in poverty starting from MKT to TMS today. Instead of heaping doctorates and kalaimamamanis on the undeserving, the film fraternity would be better served if attention is given to those who had really contributed to the industry. எல்லா துறைகளையும் போல திரைப்படமும் ஒரு துறை. இதுவே ஒரு வியாபாரி நொடித்துப்போய் விட்டாலோ, ஒரு தொழிலதிபர் நொடித்துப்போனாலோ நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்படுவோமா. சம்பாதிக்கும் காலத்தில், முறையான சேமிப்பு சரியான முதலீடு இல்லாததும், தேவையற்ற கெட்ட பழக்கங்களை மேற்கொள்ளலுமே இவற்றுக்கு காரணம். 'எப்போதும் பணம் இதே போல கொட்டிக்கொண்டிருக்காது. என்றைக்காவது கீழே வருவோம்' என்ற எண்ணமிருந்தால், E.C.R ரோட்டில் தண்ணி போட்டுக்கொண்டு ஆடத்தோன்றுமா?. முழுசாக ஐந்நூறு ரூபாயை பார்க்காத ஏழைகள் வாழும் நாட்டில், ஒரு படத்துக்கு நாலு கோடி வாங்குபவர்களைப் பற்றி நாம் இந்த அளவுக்கு கவலைப்பட வேண்டுமா?.

  
  
  Neththi Adi
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Sep 20 23:57:33 2007.

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  Selva,
  Time for next movie of the week
  Pls start with a new thread.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Sep 21 11:45:30 2007.

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  joe wrote:

  Selva, Time for next movie of the week Pls start with a new thread.

  
  Joe,
  hub is breaking often and couldnt get it posted (new topic)
  will try next week
  
  

• From: RajaRam on Sat Sep 22 10:11:02 2007.

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  கமலுக்கு தேசிய விருது வாங்கி தந்த படம்.அப்பொழுது ஸ்ரீதேவிக்கு தான் விருது கிடைக்கும் என்று சொல்லிக்கொண்டு இருந்த நேரத்தில் கமலுடைய பெயர் அறிவிக்கப் பட்டதும் எல்லோரும் ஆச்சிரியப் பட்டார்கள்.
  
  உடனே கமலின் தந்தை சிபாரிசினால்(காங்கிரஸ் காரர்)
  தான் இந்த விருது கிடைத்தது என்று கூறினார்கள்.
  
  அப்பொழுது கமலின் திறமை மீது எல்லோருக்கும் சந்தேகம்.
  
  

• From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Sep 22 14:20:18 2007.

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  joe, MKT/TMS kaalathula ethu ECR ROad???
  
  and FYI ECR Road is filed with software enggs getting ~30K
  
  4kodi matter appeals to todays younger sullan generation. all this becos Cinema is the only biggest source of enterainment today. TV\Radio\Print Magazines, politics[to some extent] & some websites are just piggy backing cinema.
  
  for this state all are respnsible...
  
  PPL - not ready to take seriously other forms of enterainment and arts[literature\painting\music ect]
  
  artists - i dunno how many arists are thriving and at the same time creating art forms wich appeals to mass
  
  Financiers - see the bull fight they are doing for some sullaan actor's calsheet, if his mocie gets hit. or see the demand for Sun TV 9.30 slot. they fight only for this and not interested/dared enuf/knowledgeable in other forms of entertainment.
  
  only some amount of urban community looks out for other forms of entertainment and mostly they are costly. paintings\rich classical music\barathanaatyam ect
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Sep 24 0:06:19 2007.

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  Sakala,
  ellam sari thaan ..aana yen en kitta sollureengannu theriyalla?