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Sindhanai Selvar Dr.Kamal HaasaR - favourite movies,scenes,s
Topic started by alwarpet_andavan on Mon Nov 20 23:38:48 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Nov 20 23:48:15 2006. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Nov 20 23:54:37 2006. |
From: rachel on Tue Nov 21 0:00:02 2006. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Nov 21 0:06:29 2006. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Nov 21 0:18:13 2006. |
From: bulb_mani on Tue Nov 21 1:29:56 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Nov 21 1:31:50 2006. |
rachel wrote: |
sindhanai selvar ![]() ennennomo ellam solrannga...onnumae puriyala |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Nov 21 1:39:07 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Tue Nov 21 1:48:49 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Nov 21 2:03:53 2006. |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Tue Nov 21 2:18:31 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Nov 21 2:20:51 2006. |
Rajkumar_mj wrote: |
Polladha madana panam thakirichi(Hey Ram)
Naan pooveduthu vekkanum pinnala (Naanum Oru Thozhilali) |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Tue Nov 21 2:22:41 2006. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Nov 21 2:24:20 2006. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Nov 21 3:41:57 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Nov 21 3:43:21 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: |
Meendum meendum va...
Poo potta dhavani... [SPB/Janaki 'antics' are dman hilarious! ![]() Vanithavani[?] When it comes to the worst , it has to be that Maharasan song... |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Nov 21 3:44:22 2006. |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Tue Nov 21 3:49:19 2006. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
vanithamani was from vikram and that was niot a kalavi song i think, there was one with some north indian actrss, its a dream song in the second half, i think its meendum meendum vaa poo potta thavani - what film is this from? |
From: breadpuli on Tue Nov 21 3:52:53 2006. |
Rajkumar_mj wrote: |
Unnai vida (Virumandi)
Nooru Nooru Mutham poo pole (Indiran chandiran) |
From: great on Tue Nov 21 3:53:09 2006. |
From: Cinefan on Tue Nov 21 3:53:49 2006. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||
vanithamani was from vikram and that was niot a kalavi song i think, there was one with some north indian actrss, its a dream song in the second half, i think its meendum meendum vaa poo potta thavani - what film is this from? |
From: breadpuli on Tue Nov 21 4:05:28 2006. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
recently saw MMKR, performance and charecter diffrentiation by kamalji, kekkave vendaam...........apart, there is a 'kalavi'nice song by IR, sivaraaththiri........somehow that was pointed as the "most .........." song at that time, i dunno but when i saw the same, again, now, it seemed nothing "such" was there in that song.....why that hype was there, i dunno
on a healthy discussion, can anyone list all the 'kalavi' songs of aandavar, and rate the best........i think iam not on wrong track, everything, of aandavar is for discusssion ![]() |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Tue Nov 21 4:19:34 2006. |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Tue Nov 21 4:21:49 2006. |
breadpuli wrote: |
When the MMKR audio was released, this song and "Katha kelu" songs were not there - but instead another two songs "Aadi pattam" and a song in female voice were there. When I watched the movie - the Sivarathiri song was a pleasant surprise ![]() |
From: Amarshiva on Tue Nov 21 12:51:42 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Tue Nov 21 22:56:28 2006. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
inchi idupazagi- from thevar magan..
nee our kadal sangeetham..- nayagan |
Amarshiva wrote: |
i dunno the song ..(from soora samharam) |
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Nov 22 9:34:44 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: | ||
Naan enbadhu nee allavo devadevi.... [superb prelude!] |
From: Aandavan on Wed Nov 22 14:54:00 2006. |
From: Nerd on Wed Nov 22 14:57:09 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Wed Nov 22 15:01:03 2006. |
Nerd wrote: |
And you forgot to mention who was the by-product there ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Wed Nov 22 15:08:30 2006. |
Nerd wrote: |
And you forgot to mention who was the by-product there ![]() |
From: Nerd on Wed Nov 22 15:24:43 2006. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Nov 22 19:14:32 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: |
The title card of Hey Ram says " En Aasan ananthuvirkku ithu samarpanam" as hey Ram came immediately after Ananthu's death... |
Aandavan wrote: |
In that program in Sun TV, he comes and neeli kaneer vadichuttu povar... |
Aandavan wrote: |
I think KB stole it all from Ananthu... To prove it, no KB movie or serial was a hit after Ananthu's period... |
From: thamiz on Wed Nov 22 19:24:50 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: |
All the credits in KB movies mentions Ananthu as Kadhai vasanathil Udhavai - Ananthu... I think KB stole it all from Ananthu... |
From: Ulaganayagan on Wed Nov 22 19:30:07 2006. |
thamiz wrote: | ||
So what are you saying EXACTLY? Did anandhu talk to you personally and said that KB STOLE his story and got credit for it by sidelining him ? Or this is just your "herbal petrol theory" which will dissolve in the thin AIR! |
From: thamiz on Wed Nov 22 19:34:18 2006. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Wed Nov 22 19:38:38 2006. |
thamiz wrote: |
Ask him to keep his feelings with himself. "Stealing" is a BIG WORD. Just a coincidence is NOT ENOUGH to accuse anybody! ![]() |
From: thamiz on Wed Nov 22 19:45:32 2006. |
From: The Boss on Wed Nov 22 19:54:19 2006. |
From: smith on Fri Nov 24 11:46:42 2006. |
From: great on Fri Nov 24 13:07:24 2006. |
From: Ramakrishna on Fri Nov 24 13:08:41 2006. |
great wrote: |
Watch Sigappu Rojakkal @ 11 P.M , K. TV |
From: great on Fri Nov 24 13:11:12 2006. |
From: bulb_mani on Fri Nov 24 13:12:32 2006. |
From: romio on Fri Nov 24 14:18:52 2006. |
From: romio on Fri Nov 24 14:22:50 2006. |
From: kannannn on Fri Nov 24 14:24:40 2006. |
From: bulb_mani on Fri Nov 24 14:30:33 2006. |
romio wrote: |
i think chimbu manmathan story idea is inspired from sigapu roja ![]() |
From: kannannn on Fri Nov 24 15:02:32 2006. |
From: romio on Fri Nov 24 15:52:10 2006. |
Quote: |
U've hit bulls eye |
From: bulb_mani on Sat Nov 25 0:15:23 2006. |
romio wrote: | ||
bulb macha simbu's vallavan inspired from Padayappa ![]() ![]() |
From: kamalsurya on Sat Nov 25 8:00:42 2006. |
From: Amarshiva on Tue Nov 28 13:51:50 2006. |
kamalsurya wrote: |
So in total simbu is not original ![]() ![]() |
From: thamiz on Tue Nov 28 19:13:55 2006. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Nov 28 19:42:48 2006. |
thamiz wrote: |
I cant beleive you guys are after the kid!
Let us look at the facts> He was able to direct a movie when he is in early twenties and he did get a decent critical acclaim from critics if not from Kh fans! What was Kh doing at this age? May be working as a dance master or showing up in some worthless characters in KB's movies like arangERRam? Or anything bettter than that? ![]() |
From: thamiz on Tue Nov 28 19:48:45 2006. |
Quote: |
You dont have to appreciate his talents, but you could resist from posting trash |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Nov 28 19:53:07 2006. |
thamiz wrote: | ||
True, he has back up from his dad. And his dad was NOBODY when oru thalai raagam ws released.
He struggled enough to achieve the status he has achieved today. His son does not have to go through that again!
This is THE FIRST TRASH in this thread! Someone called ulaganaayagan brought trash here. GO Talk to him! Not to me! |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Nov 28 19:58:12 2006. |
From: thamiz on Tue Nov 28 20:07:44 2006. |
Quote: |
You had no freakin reason to bring Kamal into the post. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Nov 28 20:20:27 2006. |
From: imsai on Tue Nov 28 21:34:40 2006. |
thamiz wrote: |
I cant beleive you guys are after the kid!
Let us look at the facts> Simbhu is able to direct a movie when he is in early twenties and he did get a decent critical acclaim from critics if not from Kh fans! What was Kh doing at this age? May be working as a dance master or showing up in some worthless characters in KB's movies like arangERRam? Or anything bettter than that? ![]() |
From: Amarshiva on Wed Nov 29 11:11:55 2006. |
From: bulb_mani on Wed Nov 29 11:52:06 2006. |
From: great on Wed Nov 29 11:58:13 2006. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Nov 29 13:19:37 2006. |
From: kannannn on Wed Nov 29 13:33:13 2006. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
http://www.bollywoodblog.de/2006/04/09/review-74-virumaandi/
is this in hindi or some other language? good snaps of viru |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Wed Nov 29 15:00:53 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Wed Nov 29 15:01:51 2006. |
From: kamalsurya on Wed Nov 29 22:54:19 2006. |
alwarpet_andavan wrote: |
V V - 100 th DAY wallpapers
http://universalherokamal.com/UniversalHeroKamal/thalaivar/Wallpapers/ShowWallpapers.aspx?Wallpaper=VV100 Bangalore Dr.KAMAL Fans Wishing Alwarpet Almighty in Dhina Sudar Daily (Bangalore Edition) http://universalherokamal.com/UniversalHeroKamal/Birthday/2006/ShowBirthday2006.aspx?Birthday=DhinaSudar |
From: Aandavan on Thu Nov 30 2:17:40 2006. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
http://www.bollywoodblog.de/2006/04/09/review-74-virumaandi/
is this in hindi or some other language? good snaps of viru |
From: NOV on Thu Nov 30 2:37:08 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||
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From: thamiz on Thu Nov 30 11:27:12 2006. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
Hi guys:
Let's not fight here. Also, pls do not bring Dr KH |
Quote: |
Dear Thamiz: I guess, you are straightly attacking Dr KH for sure.. |
From: imsai on Thu Nov 30 11:29:58 2006. |
thamiz wrote: | ||||
This is a thread for Kh. And so, it should read, please do not bring school boy Simbhu here who is nowhere near by Dr.Kh ! I wholeheartedly agree with that.
That was not my intention. All I wanted to tell the folks here was, you DONT HAVE TO STEP ON simbhu face to raise the status of Dr. Kh- who is already way up. And that too, in the sindhanai selvar doctor Kh thread, what is "simbhu doing here" I wonder! But I know you guys (especially the ulaganaayakan cant write a single post without getting personal on hubbers) go on get personal on me and always plead innocent! |
From: Ulaganayagan on Thu Nov 30 21:23:55 2006. |
thamiz wrote: | ||||
This is a thread for Kh. And so, it should read, please do not bring school boy Simbhu here who is nowhere near by Dr.Kh ! I wholeheartedly agree with that.
That was not my intention. All I wanted to tell the folks here was, you DONT HAVE TO STEP ON simbhu's face to raise the status of Dr. Kh- who is already way up. And that too, in the sindhanai selvar doctor Kh thread, what is "simbhu doing here" I wonder! But I know you guys (especially the ulaganaayakan cant write a single post without getting personal on hubbers) go on get personal on me and always plead innocent! |
From: Surya on Tue Dec 5 20:07:37 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Dec 5 22:35:28 2006. |
Surya wrote: |
Paartha Mudhal Naale - Vetaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu
I LOVE THIS SONG! ![]() ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DudMy7UeKyk&mode=related&search= - Quality is Surpricingly good for Youtube. ![]() |
From: Surya on Wed Dec 6 15:21:23 2006. |
From: bulb_mani on Wed Dec 6 15:24:18 2006. |
From: Surya on Wed Dec 6 15:26:34 2006. |
bulb_mani wrote: |
The best in VV IMO is
MANJAL VEYIL.... superb music... superb voice... very good picturization ![]() |
From: bulb_mani on Wed Dec 6 15:27:07 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Thu Dec 7 1:34:18 2006. |
Surya wrote: |
Wow! ![]() ![]() U personally congradulated meaning u saw her or called her or something? ![]() |
From: Roshan on Thu Dec 7 4:26:36 2006. |
Surya wrote: |
Paartha Mudhal Naale - Vetaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu
I LOVE THIS SONG! ![]() ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DudMy7UeKyk&mode=related&search= - Quality is Surpricingly good for Youtube. ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Thu Dec 7 5:04:20 2006. |
From: Amarshiva on Thu Dec 7 10:51:01 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: |
thaamarai did a wonderful job.. usually the hit songs these days are just seasonal... but VV songs are timeless just for its lyrics... hats off to thaamarai.. |
From: Aandavan on Thu Dec 7 12:46:39 2006. |
Amarshiva wrote: | ||
Is thamarai also involved in Dasa project? If so, it will be awesome. |
From: great on Thu Dec 7 13:01:31 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||||
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sat Dec 9 2:59:50 2006. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Sat Dec 9 4:08:53 2006. |
Sanguine Sridhar wrote: |
somewhere i read abt VRMBBS
my fav scene in that movie is that conversation btw Pr and Kamalji! "Revit ... revit you don know? ...." can anybody post that dialogue? ![]() |
From: villan007 on Sat Dec 9 4:12:52 2006. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Not sure about this one, but talking about VRMBBS, the scene i liked was again a conversation between Kamal and Pirabhu. Its the scene where they discuss Paapu's betrayal sitting on a ledge,Kamal drunk.. Kamal's modulation, esp his sudden shift to sadness was outstanding.. The dialogue starts like '' Naan enna sonnen, enna da sonnen..''. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Sat Dec 9 4:17:12 2006. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Dec 11 11:26:08 2006. |
From: mazhaichaaral on Wed Dec 13 6:52:17 2006. |
villan007 wrote: | ||
vatti ,naan naalaikE doctor collegela sErndhu medical aavanum ![]() ![]() |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Wed Dec 13 7:22:17 2006. |
From: groucho070 on Thu Dec 14 3:44:38 2006. |
From: alwarpet_andavan on Thu Dec 14 3:51:33 2006. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Saw The life and death of Peter Sellers the other day. Very sad. |
From: Rajkumar_mj on Thu Dec 14 12:30:09 2006. |
From: groucho070 on Thu Dec 14 23:27:15 2006. |
Aandavan wrote: |
a great scene in Kaadhala Kaadhala ...
Soundarya : ungalukku Modern painting pidikkaatha, enna athu verum penaathalunu sollreengalaa?? Aandavar: enna ippidi solleeteenga!! Modern Theatres pola oru studio varumaa?????? |
From: Ulaganayagan on Fri Dec 15 0:02:29 2006. |
groucho070 wrote: |
The same with Panchatanthiram (mainly because I can't stand Simran) but later when I manage to blank out Simran, I began to enjoy this movie too. |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Dec 15 0:18:39 2006. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Sorry I brought this out again. Office colleagues got worried when they heard me chuckling suddenly. Initially, Kathala Kathala was so and so for me. But on subsequent viewing I find it to be very funny. The same with Panchatanthiram (mainly because I can't stand Simran) but later when I manage to blank out Simran, I began to enjoy this movie too. I think that's how it is with Kamal's comedy. It's always layered, and since you are busy laughing, you tend to laugh over next funny line. I must have watched MMKR over more than 50 times and I still find something new in it. |
From: groucho070 on Fri Dec 15 0:32:28 2006. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Me too whenever i watch MMKR there is something we get new either a comedy or the direction brilliancy or technology use. Credit Also goes to Crazy Mohan ![]() |
From: Thirumaran on Fri Dec 15 1:12:28 2006. |
groucho070 wrote: |
This movie deserves award, for its writing and most importantly for Kamal's performance. Of course, those award people are mostly humourless bunch of bores entertaining their constipation problem. Sorry, got outta line there. If only comedy was given the respect the same way as Drama - MMKR would sweep many awards. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Dec 15 20:47:50 2006. |
groucho070 wrote: |
The brilliance of MMKR comes mainly from Kamal's screenplay. The way he introduces characters in the beginning, all interconnected. |
From: Hulkster on Sun Dec 17 0:23:44 2006. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Dec 17 15:54:53 2006. |
Hulkster wrote: |
In thevar magan...the scene where shivaji dies...normally you would expect the actor to pour out his emotions and make the audience cry. But Kamal here controls his emotions to just normal tears and a bit of crying. But what makes it very remarkable is when Kamal shows some "manliness" since in foresight Kamal will take over from shivaji later as the village bigwig. |
From: Kumar on Sun Dec 17 18:21:48 2006. |
Hulkster wrote: |
In thevar magan...the scene where shivaji dies...normally you would expect the actor to pour out his emotions and make the audience cry. But Kamal here controls his emotions to just normal tears and a bit of crying.. |
From: mazhaichaaral on Sun Dec 17 21:13:59 2006. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
In contrast to this, Kamal unleashed emotional hell Virumaandi (grandmother's death). I liked the way he sank into helplessness, alternating between calling her 'thaiye' and 'naiye'. This scene pretty much established that Virumaandi was capable of little without his doting grandmother. The following scene at the funeral when he gtes drunk nails this even further. |
From: Hulkster on Sun Dec 17 22:01:55 2006. |
From: TamilMoon on Mon Dec 18 3:24:16 2006. |
From: Saamy on Thu Jan 11 6:14:23 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jan 11 16:37:59 2007. |
Saamy wrote: |
My friend just sent me a sms to watch Mahanadi in Sun Tv now. But, unfortunately i am in Office. It is One of the BEst movies ever made. PLease Discuss abt this timeless classic here. |
From: Saamy on Thu Jan 11 21:14:15 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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From: nerdy on Fri Jan 12 2:38:25 2007. |
From: nerdy on Fri Jan 12 2:55:34 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 12 12:41:32 2007. |
Saamy wrote: |
Villain: Oh, finance company party-aa. Un ponna naan onnum pannala, antha hanifa thaan supply pannaan.
Kamal: avan supply nee thaan da demand. |
From: nerdy on Fri Jan 12 13:04:13 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
I am actually not too impressed with the Mahanadhi climax, which except for one strong visual point in the end, is rather ordinary for such a great film (particularly the post jail reunion !!!).
The highlight line of the confrontation is the dialogue that preceeds this where VenkatAchalam brutally asks : "nee endha poNNOda appA ?" In his subtle and mischievous indictment of religion (a recurrent theme in this film and in Kamal's work in general), Krishnaswamy will also say : " avan kasAppu kadai vachurikkAn. piLLaikkaRi kEkkuravan nee". The climax itself begins when VenkatAchalam is in the middle of a poojai when called by Dhanush. Re. Hey RAm, that was a nice one nerdy. I saw that scene first when the movie was telecast on Sun TV (Aug 15 2002). They had snipped it in the theatre I saw it in Madurai apparently to 'save time'. It was such a brilliant scene (including the hideous Gandhi cartoon in the background in the wall), taking all of 30 secs. Cutting it gained nothing but we lost such a beautiful and subtle scene. At the beginning of the scene the room is lit by the powerful lamp he is working under. Until the window is opened we don't know the time of the scene. When it is opened we see a very early morning blue light streaming in. Recall the first lines in the movie spoken by SAket Jr.: "Oh Vidinjuduththaa ? ThaathAvOda room-la raathiri pagalE theriyAdhu" SAkEt is married just before independence. On Independence day he is Calcutta (so is Gandhi). Shortly upon his return from Calcutta, he is shown to leave for Maharshtra with Mythili. This had to happen immediately as the film requires they be there by DusherA, which is usually in September. And they do leave abruptly thanks to SAkEt getting pissed off with the astrologer ChAri. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sat Jan 13 15:33:41 2007. |
nerdy wrote: | ||
I am very much impressed with Your narrative skills and knowledge Really you are the one of the Sindhani Selvar of this Hub. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I would like you to post more about Hey Ram and Virumandi in this thread. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sat Jan 13 16:10:18 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
In contrast to this, Kamal unleashed emotional hell Virumaandi (grandmother's death). I liked the way he sank into helplessness, alternating between calling her 'thaiye' and 'naiye'. This scene pretty much established that Virumaandi was capable of little without his doting grandmother. The following scene at the funeral when he gtes drunk nails this even further. |
From: OnMyWay on Sun Jan 14 0:34:42 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Jan 14 11:52:24 2007. |
Sanguine Sridhar wrote: |
I saw this movie in Chinthamani - Madurai. I went with my friends. One of my friend actually losed his dear grandmother in the previous week. He was normal and enjoying the movie. Once this particular scene was screened...followed by 'Mada Vilaka..' thats it, he started to cry,it continued till the interval...! He was crying like a baby and we couldn console him.After the movie he said "Kamal's acting after his grandmother death was simply mindblowing and I couldn control MY emotions, it brought my grandmother to the picture" as he was saying... he started again ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Jan 14 19:28:43 2007. |
nerdy wrote: |
Rajesh :"Krishna Indha kalathula Nermaya irrukiradha vida Porumaya irukkiradhu than Nalladhu" |
From: thimuru on Sun Jan 14 22:56:30 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Jan 15 8:35:40 2007. |
From: What on Mon Jan 15 12:17:10 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Jan 15 13:20:32 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Jan 15 14:41:44 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Thinkfloyd, the cut from TirunAgEswaram to the chit fund pooja with the mantra chanting preceding the visuals, is one of the many places where voice overlap is used beautifully in the film. One other scene that comes to my mind is, the scene where Krishna is sitting dazed in the office after Dhanush leaves (after firing Manju). The visuals are still there but we hear the voice of the lawyer from the next scene : "ivan definite-a fraud sir". |
From: Kumar on Mon Jan 15 18:26:35 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
In his subtle and mischievous indictment of religion (a recurrent theme in this film and in Kamal's work in general), Krishnaswamy will also say : " avan kasAppu kadai vachurikkAn. piLLaikkaRi kEkkuravan nee". The climax itself begins when VenkatAchalam is in the middle of a poojai when called by Dhanush. . |
From: Amarshiva on Tue Jan 16 8:38:39 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jan 16 16:26:22 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Yes. In addition to sound overlaps we can also see one scene dissolve into the next on many occassions. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
I think Kamal is the first to use songs as part of the narrative. Well, almost. All the songs are situational but top-class nevertheless. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
There is one version of the "Thai Pongal" song which is different from the version which comes in the movie. |
Kumar wrote: |
It's ironical that in the 'Peigaley nambathey' song, Krishna and his mother in law are teaching their children that demons and ghosts do not exists and hence should not be feared. Well, they do exist- in the form of the con man, the corrupt jailer, his right hand man (Tullukana), the paedophole politician, the pimps and brothel operators. |
From: bingleguy on Tue Jan 16 17:47:14 2007. |
From: bingleguy on Tue Jan 16 17:59:37 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Thinkfloyd, the cut from TirunAgEswaram to the chit fund pooja with the mantra chanting preceding the visuals, is one of the many places where voice overlap is used beautifully in the film. One other scene that comes to my mind is, the scene where Krishna is sitting dazed in the office after Dhanush leaves (after firing Manju). The visuals are still there but we hear the voice of the lawyer from the next scene : "ivan definite-a fraud sir". What, my choice is is MahAnadhi. The excellent presentation in ThEvar Magan is very tempting, but my MahAnadhi pips ahead due to sheer appeal of its content. |
From: Kumar on Tue Jan 16 18:05:50 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Kumar wrote: It's ironical that in the 'Peigaley nambathey' song, Krishna and his mother in law are teaching their children that demons and ghosts do not exists and hence should not be feared. Well, they do exist- in the form of the con man, the corrupt jailer, his right hand man (Tullukana), the paedophole politician, the pimps and brothel operators. ennappA ? I thought the song was exactly about such demons-in-human form. uzaikkAma vambu pEsi alaivAnE avan pEi paNam sErkka pAdhai maaRi paRappAnE avan bootham Just that, given his hitherto naive exposure, Krishna is only able to think of mild demons. His innocence is forcibly lost. Whose isn't ? Would the kanakadhArA stotram chanting PanchApakEsan have ever thought he'd address a brothel madam as 'paradEvathE' ? |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Jan 16 19:24:13 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Wed Jan 17 1:28:54 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Is it ? I am not able to recall many dissolves (it is atleast a year since I last saw the film). Can you tell us more ?
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Prabhu Ram wrote: |
And Vaali, the undernoticed master: .... .... pretty much rounds up the film and even sets you up for the climax. So much of Kamal's influence that one may believe the lyric-writing was a collaborative effort (which Kamal mentioned once is how it works when Vaali,IR and he work). |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Hmm.....the song itself ?
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Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Would the kanakadhArA stotram chanting PanchApakEsan have ever thought he'd address a brothel madam as 'paradEvathE' ? |
From: thimuru on Wed Jan 17 9:52:46 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Jan 18 0:54:52 2007. |
From: thimuru on Thu Jan 18 4:44:26 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jan 18 15:33:50 2007. |
bingleguy wrote: |
Shakthi ... a character who was basically soft n romantic understands the situation in his birthplace, understands the importance of his birthsoil, understands the very importance of word(vaaku) and takes up his dad's position...... that was simply wonderful... |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Or is it the missing stanze that you are mentioning, now that sakalakalavallavar reminds us that there is an SPB version? |
thimuru wrote: |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2717366010926682399&q=thevar+magan
enjoy the scene |
From: thimuru on Thu Jan 18 21:41:54 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||||
Even after the reservoir sabotage his position is not made clear (SivAji comes to the godown where the afflicted are rehabilitated, with a proud expression on his face for it looks like his son seems to be taking active interest finally. When he asks him why he has not eaten "pasikkalayaa ?", Sakthi will reply " pidikkilai". SivAji's face will betray a sharp flash of disappointment - perhaps he was jumping to conclusions about his son. Looks like his position of distaste is unchanged. Of course, Sakthi goes on to dispels all doubt in the very next minute and relieve his father. I wasn't trying to compare Krishnaswamy and Sakthi but the two films. While ThEvar Magan makes on reexamine one's opinion on tradition, relationships and individualism, the themes in MahAnadhi are a whole lot broader in appeal (IMO) and arresting.
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From: thinkfloyd on Thu Jan 18 22:41:26 2007. |
From: thimuru on Thu Jan 18 22:48:02 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Thevar Magan:
A classic without doubt. Film-making at its best - acting, screenplay, direction, dialogue, cinematography (except for the bulb-in-the-bottom lighting in the car), and musical score. The musical score is so complete and entwined with the story that it becomes one of the leading characters in the film. Scene-a ulvaangi making the music explain what the scene is about - Ilaiyaraaja is peerless in this. After Kurudhippunal, this is Nasser's finest performance. One aspect which was a welcome relief is the realism thrown in the dialogue "Sandhanam minjuna kundila poosuvaangalaam" "seemai-lendhu dhaane vandirukkaen.. Vakkali sethu pozhacha vandirukkaen?" "Edhiri veettu p** thinna vandheegalo??" I'm just quoting dialogues here, so i hope i don't need to apologize ![]() Almost all the dialogues have a striking sense of everday earthiness in them, not very common in Tamil films. Still, Kamal could have done away with the corny most-repeated-line-in-English-films "Let's get out of here. Let's get the hell out of here". Unfortunately, we as audience ourselves have mixed up priorities and judgements when it comes to accepting and terming what constitutes vulgarity. Sivaji pathi sollave vendaam. Its my favorite performance from him. On par with Mudhal Mariyadhai. Its easy to point out the 'famous' ones. The conversation with Kamal. However, there are quite a few other gems. The first family lunch/dinner when Kamal explains about his "chain of restaurants" ("thamizh-liyum adhaan" ![]() Revathi gets her accent spot on. The only other i can remember is Abhirami in Virumaandi. Gowthami shows us that glamour and acting are not mutually exclusive. One of my favorite phases in the movie is the series of scenes after she comes back to Thoovalur oblivious to the fact that Shakthi has married Panjavarnam. Kamal has always unfairly been taunted (sometimes lovingly) or mimmicked with his "aahh.. aaahh..." thing. People forget his performances where he doesn't have to resort to that. Look at how restrained he is in these scenes. Perfect portrayal of a man bottling up his emotions and trying to bury his love so that he can atleast save his marriage and village. Prabhu, About the wind, i think it might be a nod to Kurosawa who used rain and wind often as mood-setters... |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jan 18 23:42:59 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Prabhu, About the wind, i think it might be a nod to Kurosawa who used rain and wind often as mood-setters... |
From: thimuru on Fri Jan 19 0:51:30 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Jan 19 1:30:25 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
I had a little more elaborate (and farfetched) view. ![]() |
From: thimuru on Fri Jan 19 1:43:18 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Jan 19 1:45:39 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
its better we direct a movie and let prabhu raam explain it ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Sat Jan 20 13:50:34 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Jan 20 14:39:10 2007. |
From: Roshan on Sat Jan 20 14:46:44 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
One mini-song that is there in the film but not in the audio track is "thEdiyadhu kidaichAle sandhOshappadum manasu" in IR's voice. It is the song we here in the background when KrishnA's dines with MaNNAngatti's family and carries a sleeping BaraNi home. Lovely song. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sat Jan 20 15:19:58 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Thanks thinkfloyd. But this is the first song. What was the difference between this version and the one in the film. I didn't get it ?
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From: thinkfloyd on Wed Feb 7 9:46:28 2007. |
From: Saamy on Wed Feb 7 10:22:10 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 8 15:18:25 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Pushpak: To start with, is the music director of this film Vaidhyanadhan? More importantly L.Vaidhyanadhan as in L.Subramaniam and L.Shankar?
Rest, after this... |
From: Raikkonen on Fri Feb 9 4:00:24 2007. |
From: thimuru on Fri Feb 9 6:40:55 2007. |
Raikkonen wrote: |
Love Love Me Dear from Simla Special.. ![]() Very Nice song.. somehow not popular.. |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Feb 9 6:53:56 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Feb 9 6:54:41 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Feb 9 7:00:39 2007. |
From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 9 8:24:25 2007. |
From: thimuru on Fri Feb 9 8:40:47 2007. |
From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 9 10:51:31 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
regarding look..
in kurudipunal when nasser was arrested ..he would be standing and kamal would be revolving around nasser and just ask whoz he! at a point when kamal places his hand on nassers shoulder nasser would catch the hand...surprised kamal will give him a look... awesome awesome! |
From: thimuru on Fri Feb 9 11:00:26 2007. |
Amarshiva wrote: | ||
Thimiru: I still couldn't forget the interrogations scenes and the climax. Man it's amazing!!! especially, when kamal fly and hit into the wall against the flying bullets... (operation dhanush).. wow...Simply superb... and the dialgoues(thokkira side la irunthu poradukirom).. mind blowing one .. |
From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 9 11:04:23 2007. |
thimuru wrote: | ||||
"u seem to be a man driven by ideologies"....sidhaandhathinal undhapattavan maadhiri theriyudhu...ohh....sorry...english theriyadhavanukku translate pandra maadiri tamizhaa soldren...of course u must be knowing english! |
From: thimuru on Fri Feb 9 11:09:28 2007. |
From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 9 11:51:52 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
amarsiva....adhu kurudhipunal dialogue-u...
not at u |
From: NOV on Fri Feb 9 22:23:12 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
yeah...wonderful song...I am surprised that the music director of simla special is MSV |
From: joe on Fri Feb 9 22:27:12 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
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From: NOV on Fri Feb 9 22:45:50 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Ninaithaale Inikkum MD yaarunnu thimiru ninachirukkaro theriyalla ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sun Feb 11 10:37:23 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Feb 11 18:31:54 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Thu Feb 15 0:19:50 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Feb 16 1:30:53 2007. |
From: Kollywoodfan on Fri Feb 16 15:23:29 2007. |
From: Kollywoodfan on Sat Feb 17 0:07:32 2007. |
From: sandiyar_k on Sat Feb 17 5:57:06 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sat Feb 17 6:52:52 2007. |
sandiyar_k wrote: |
ilamai itho itho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thWEFvUeTPg&NR |
From: breadpuli on Mon Feb 19 0:17:24 2007. |
Kollywoodfan wrote: |
Thevar Magan movie on google
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-8832236917392128207&q=tamil+movie |
From: villan007 on Mon Feb 19 0:27:28 2007. |
breadpuli wrote: | ||
Is it posible to download this movie? |
From: sandiyar_k on Mon Feb 19 1:39:38 2007. |
breadpuli wrote: | ||
Is it posible to download this movie? |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Feb 19 2:46:55 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Feb 19 18:49:46 2007. |
From: kannannn on Mon Feb 19 19:12:31 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Mass defined!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKwm-rTg6WQ |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Feb 19 19:15:54 2007. |
kannannn wrote: | ||
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From: kannannn on Mon Feb 19 19:25:52 2007. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Mon Feb 19 22:11:52 2007. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Mon Feb 19 22:13:17 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Mass defined!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKwm-rTg6WQ |
From: Surya on Mon Feb 19 22:13:53 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Watching VETAYAADU VILAYAADU tonight! Man, what a great movie...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3621023723945513572&q=tamil+movie ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Mon Feb 19 22:18:47 2007. |
Surya wrote: | ||
Seriously? That's the print ur watching it in? ![]() ![]() |
From: Surya on Mon Feb 19 22:22:08 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Feb 20 7:49:09 2007. |
From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 20 7:53:14 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Mass defined!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKwm-rTg6WQ |
From: thimuru on Tue Feb 20 7:53:33 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
is there anyone who knows more about the Jallikattu fight? my friend says that Murattu kaalai fight is more realistinc than Virumaandi's...can anyone throw light on this? |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Feb 20 8:08:01 2007. |
From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 20 10:07:47 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
thimiru, instead of starting an argument, it would be nice if u say some specific reason to judge ur statement, even i feel viru should be more realistic, bu i hav not seen murattukaalai's so i could not comment |
From: thimuru on Tue Feb 20 11:13:05 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
thimiru, instead of starting an argument, it would be nice if u say some specific reason to judge ur statement, even i feel viru should be more realistic, bu i hav not seen murattukaalai's so i could not comment |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Feb 20 15:14:19 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Feb 20 16:02:05 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJqGmHexQY
- vAzha vaikkum kAdhalukku jEy 1) Annan and Anni "chemistry", "physics", "biology".... |
From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Feb 21 9:59:12 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJqGmHexQY
- vAzha vaikkum kAdhalukku jEy 1) Annan and Anni "chemistry", "physics", "biology".... 2) Brilliant screenplay by Aandavara 3) Ilaiyaraaja ![]() What a brilliant composition even in a funky song! Raaja, only you faasible. Superb first interlude and beautiful usage of rhythm and bass guitar throughout the song. Check out from 1:41 to 1:53. Ivalavu funky song la enna complex phrase.... not all can sing this... idhu endha rAgam ![]() |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Feb 22 12:52:43 2007. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Thu Feb 22 12:54:10 2007. |
From: Designer on Thu Feb 22 13:13:42 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Feb 23 2:44:11 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Fri Feb 23 3:31:06 2007. |
From: joe on Fri Feb 23 3:55:42 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
Devar magan - the Kambu Fight - aandavar proves he is a trained guy in kambu fight |
From: groucho070 on Fri Feb 23 4:15:46 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Yes,Heard he got professional training. You know one thing .In my village ,there are lot of Chilampam Aasans .They used to laugh all chilampu fights in movies ,except for MGR silampu sandai ..They say only silampu sandai in MGR movies are professional ..But after Devar magan ,many told me Kamal is the second hero after MGR did simalpu sandai professionally. ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Feb 23 4:59:58 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Fri Feb 23 5:04:17 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
silly doubt, TTT means thoongathey thambi thoongathey OR TicTic Tic ??? |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Feb 23 5:04:53 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
silly doubt, TTT means thoongathey thambi thoongathey OR TicTic Tic ??? |
From: thinkfloyd on Fri Feb 23 5:06:00 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Tongathey, of course. Ultimate masala movie. Everything you want from Kamal, you get it. With a double role to boot! |
From: Amarshiva on Fri Feb 23 6:39:22 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
"You've got 5 days to save your ass!" ![]() Foreign return-a ennamma kalakkiruppaaru... |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Feb 27 13:56:42 2007. |
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A dwarf
Life goes on - for all of us - Isn't it? We used to redicule the real-life 'appu' characters we would have met in our life. We laughted at them; made fun of them - right? Not only us, even in the movies, people made fun of Dwarfs, always shown them as a commodity to be laughed at - sad in deed. But Kamal, because he is Kamal, made a difference. I still cherish the moments of the movie 'Appu Raja' aka "Apoorva Sagotharargal" in which he created History. What a character Appu was! It was very mesmerizing to watch him walking, jumping, moving around - he not only made as laugh as a circus clown; but made us cry by weaving scenes around his love towards Rupini, and made us all feel that - "They're also Humans with the same feelings what we have"! His expressions to Balu's breath-taking song 'Unnai Ninaichen' - a scene which will linger in our minds for the rest our lives! தன் சோகத்தினால் மற்றவர்களைச் சிரிக்கவைப்பவர்கள் அவர்கள்.தெருவில் வித்தைகாட்டும் கூத்தாடிக் கும்பல்களில் குள்ளர்களைப் பார்த்திருக்கிறேன். ஒரே சக்கர சைக்கிளில் கைகளை விரித்து பாலன்ஸ் செய்து ஓட்டிக்கொண்டு போவார்கள். குள்ளர்கள் இல்லாத சர்க்கஸ் உண்டா? குள்ளர்களின் பால் நம் கவனத்தைக் கவர்ந்ததில் 'அப்பு'விற்கு கொஞ்சம் பங்குண்டு. ஒருமுறை கால்களை பின்புறம் மடக்கிக் கட்டிக்கொண்டு நின்று பாருங்கள். தவக்களை குள்ளமணி என்று பொம்மைகளாகவும் நகைக்கத்தக்க கோமாளிகளாகவும் மட்டுமே குள்ளர்களைத் தமிழ்த்திரையுலகம் சித்தரித்துவந்த வேளையில் அவர்கள் பொம்மைகள் இல்லை; விளையாட்டுக் காட்டும் கோமாளிகள் இல்லை; சின்ன உருவங்களுக்குள் இருக்கும் பெரிய மனிதத்தையும், அரிதாரம் பூசிய முகமூடி முகங்களுக்குப் பின்னே இருக்கும் கண்ணீரையும், சாமான்ய மனிதர்களுக்கான அதே உணர்வுகளும் அவர்களுக்கும் உண்டு என்பதையும் காண்பித்ததில் - அப்புவாக அபூர்வ சகோதரர்களில் - கமல் ஹாஸனுக்கும் பங்கு உண்டு. Hats off to you Kamal! |
From: Designer on Tue Feb 27 22:28:58 2007. |
From: Wibha on Tue Feb 27 23:32:51 2007. |
From: NOV on Tue Feb 27 23:49:31 2007. |
Designer wrote: |
kudos to Kamal & SPB ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Wed Feb 28 0:07:06 2007. |
Wibha wrote: |
Shimla Specieal is a COOL movie ![]() i like Kamal's "Nizhal Niijamaagiradhu" i watched this movie like so many times.kamal's is mostly guest appearance kind of but still he was luking really gud and he did it so well ![]() da movie was awesome |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Feb 28 0:11:42 2007. |
Designer wrote: |
I think he sings this song during the play - unakkenna maelae ninraay o nandhalaalaa unadhaanai paaduginraen naan romba naalaa thaay madiyil pirandhoam thamizh madiyil valarndhoam nadigarena malarndhoam naadagaththil kalandhoam aadaadha maedai illai poadadha vaesham illai sindhaadha kanneer illai sirippukku panjam illai kaal kondu aadum pillai nool kondu aadum bommai un kaiyil andha noolaa nee sollu nandhalaalaa I think in the song Kamal also hints at his friend's betrayal. Touching lyrics. intha paadalai paarkumpOthum, kEtkum pOthum antha kathapaathirathin sOgam, kObam, thavippu nammaal nangu uNara mudigiRathu. kudos to Kamal & SPB ![]() |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Feb 28 0:17:19 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
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From: joe on Wed Feb 28 0:18:37 2007. |
From: NOV on Wed Feb 28 0:21:38 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Wed Feb 28 0:31:22 2007. |
From: Wibha on Wed Feb 28 0:35:03 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
i saw this movie only recently... a good movie.. but thalaivar shown to be a chain smoker ![]() ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Wed Feb 28 0:37:20 2007. |
Wibha wrote: | ||
namma thala naraiya movies la chain smoker......... character adhu.as long as he DOES da character well...v should appreciate the fact that he DID like a CHAIN SMOKER instead of criticising it ![]() |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Feb 28 0:57:56 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
super lyrics ![]() ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Feb 28 1:20:20 2007. |
From: joe on Wed Feb 28 1:41:18 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
//Dig No Doubt. A week before Kumdam had a small info on Current MSV. His Health is not well nowadays and he had become lean. ![]() Hope he get well soon. //Dig |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Mar 4 3:45:24 2007. |
Thilak wrote: |
Kamal's silent melody. The movie itself is a symphony. Who else but great Beethoven composes 'Moon light sonata' for this masterpeice. If you haven't seen this movie, you're missing something extraordinary. They don't make movies like this anymore! |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 12:17:14 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Sun Mar 4 12:20:31 2007. |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 12:25:47 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
PS: coffee with anu programae koffee wid karan la irunthu bittu......adhukku yen yaarumae ![]() ![]() |
From: ajithfederer on Sun Mar 4 12:28:48 2007. |
great wrote: | ||
But the sets designs of Coffe with anu is good . I dunno why Sun TV is copying few shows of Vijay ![]() ![]() |
From: thimuru on Sun Mar 4 13:24:20 2007. |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 14:09:43 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
I DONT KNOW WHats thiruttu here!
its the same "nerukku ner" nigazhchi of suntv ! havent interviews done before? |
From: Roshan on Sun Mar 4 14:40:34 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Sun Mar 4 14:48:53 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
I saw the program. Need to say that the program was not properly organised. At the end I felt it was incomplete. Half an hour is definitely not enough with clippings of others about Kamal. Gouthami, is sothappal. kELvi kEkkavE theriyala ![]() ![]() |
From: joe on Sun Mar 4 14:50:40 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Sun Mar 4 14:53:19 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
thanks for the update great
it will be good if someone uploads the video in youtube PS: coffee with anu programae koffee wid karan la irunthu bittu......adhukku yen yaarumae ![]() ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Mar 4 21:39:04 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Mar 4 21:40:39 2007. |
From: kb on Sun Mar 4 21:52:15 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
PS: coffee with anu programae koffee wid karan la irunthu bittu......adhukku yen yaarumae ![]() ![]() |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 22:40:59 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
ippo yArAvadhu Aandavar pesinadha viedo upload seyyalEnnA thondargal uNNaviradham senju tea-kudipp.. chi thI kuLippOm! ![]() Great, The lines you posted about Dasa are a little ambiguous. yAru enna kELvi kEttAinga? And yAru enna badhil sonnAinga? |
From: Ulaganayagan on Sun Mar 4 22:42:56 2007. |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 22:43:35 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
"Screenplay nalla irukkum" etc....... ![]() Not again!!!!! pattahdu podhAdhA??? amaidhi nilavattum. padam pEsattum! |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 22:48:22 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
The interview was badly done ![]() Gauthami's expressions were very artificial / cinematic as Roshan pointed out.. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
(KB said this very emotionally in a footage). |
From: great on Sun Mar 4 22:48:51 2007. |
great wrote: | ||
Gauthami Kettanga athukku Kamal answer pannanga and video footage of KSR was also shown w.r.t Dasa. |
From: thinkfloyd on Sun Mar 4 22:50:19 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
The interview was badly done ![]() Gauthami's expressions were very artificial / cinematic as Roshan pointed out.. Celebrties' opinions on Kamal were shown to him on a laptop ! Idukku Avanga Kamalukku laptop eduthu kudukkura oru repeat footage vera ![]() |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Mani Ratnam spoke about Kamal..He said since Kamal is a brilliant actor who also knows so much about other aspects of Cinema, he has an unfair advantage over others ![]() Kamal responded saying that MR does not know how many times he has hurt himself falling down from that tight rope ![]() |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Kamal also recited a Adi Shanakara slokam / quote (on KSR's request) |
From: Wibha on Sun Mar 4 22:52:25 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Mani Ratnam spoke about Kamal..He said since Kamal is a brilliant actor who also knows so much about other aspects of Cinema, he has an unfair advantage over others ![]() Kamal responded saying that MR does not know how many times he has hurt himself falling down from that tight rope ![]() |
From: Designer on Mon Mar 5 0:04:18 2007. |
great wrote: | ||
But the sets designs of Coffe with anu is good . I dunno why Sun TV is copying few shows of Vijay ![]() ![]() |
From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 5 0:39:31 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 0:58:11 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Mon Mar 5 1:06:00 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
Thalaivar's answers were top notch .. The Best part of the interview was Illayaraaja's question.
IlayaRaaja: ivaru pala achievements panni irukkaaru.. but, innum oru achievement irukku.. athaiyum nichayam pannuvaaru.. naan ennanu ippo solla maatten.. athu avarukku theriyum.. Kamal eppo atha panna poreenga??? Kamal: enna kadavul kumbida solluraaru.. naan anbe sivam moolamaa paniitten.. ippo ivara naan kadavul-a kumbuduren.. so antha achievement over.. ![]() |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 1:26:29 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Seems SunTV is having a very tough competition nowadays... Asatha Poavathu Yaaru ![]() Anbudan ![]() Aratai Arangam with TR ![]() |
From: Ulaganayagan on Mon Mar 5 1:31:19 2007. |
Cinefan wrote: |
great,ulaganayagan&Roshan,
Are you saying that I was better off attending the(prescheduled) dinner meet than watching this program yesterday? |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 1:35:45 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 1:36:00 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Mon Mar 5 1:38:28 2007. |
cancer wrote: | ||
Yes... ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 1:39:06 2007. |
cancer wrote: |
he spoke about his fans, that was really super ![]() ![]() Reel veru real veru, Ungalukku enna Pudikkumo athu mathree naan dance aaduren, at the same time screenu kku veliya naan enna solreno athu mathree neenga dance aadanum.... he is a good leader, do not walk in front of me , i am not ur follower, do not walk behind me , i m not ur leader. come lets walk together ..... ![]() |
Aandavan wrote: |
Kamal: enna kadavul kumbida solluraaru.. naan anbe sivam moolamaa paniitten.. ippo ivara naan kadavul-a kumbuduren.. so antha achievement over.. ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 1:39:54 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
"Screenplay nalla irukkum" etc....... ![]() Not again!!!!! pattahdu podhAdhA??? amaidhi nilavattum. padam pEsattum! |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 1:41:09 2007. |
Sanjeevi wrote: |
![]() Ayyyo..... SUN TV-yula varum vara nigazhigal parthal, enakku pothigai TV than gnabagam varthu ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 1:43:36 2007. |
cancer wrote: |
When was kamal's Last interview to Tamizh channels ![]() Gouthami is the producer of this show right? so She used Kamal to Promote ... ![]() and the Interview was not good, except kamal's way of replying ( as usual) he spoke about his fans, that was really super ![]() ![]() Reel veru real veru, Ungalukku enna Pudikkumo athu mathree naan dance aaduren, at the same time screenu kku veliya naan enna solreno athu mathree neenga dance aadanum.... he is a good leader, do not walk in front of me , i am not ur follower, do not walk behind me , i m not ur leader. come lets walk together ..... ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 1:44:56 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Mon Mar 5 1:45:15 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Mon Mar 5 1:48:05 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
Podhigai-a kelava paduthaadheenga.. adhula appappo nalla program poduvaan... ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 1:49:34 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
he said, screenplay nalla vanthurukku.. Apoorva sagotharargal-ai vidia 10 madangu paaraatugal kidaikka vendum.. kidaikkum endra nambikkayil naangal irukkirrom..
whats wrong in this???? nothing at all.. ![]() |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 2:00:05 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:08:03 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
What i'm saying is self-hype can backfire badly.. it has happened with Alavandhaan and MX. I'm talking about commercial success. I'm pretty sure Dasa screenplay will be nothing less than brilliant, given Nammavar's track record.. but pre-release interviews and hype from Aandavar are signs of danger. Bottom Line: unmaya solradha vida adha enga eppo solradhu-ngaradhu dhaan mukkiyam. |
From: karthik_sa2 on Mon Mar 5 2:08:16 2007. |
Quote: |
1) He should NOT give interviews until after the movie is released.
2) Even if he does, he should not talk much about Dasa.. least of all, he shouldn't indulge in saying "Aboorva-vida 10 madangu irukkum.. MMKR-a vida 8 madangu irukkum" etc ... Have you forgotten what happened to MX? Remember the 500 rupee note promo? 3) Recently, Sarathy Chandrahaasan-a kettaaru Sarathy: "Dasa eppadi vandhurukku..?" Chandrahaasan: "Makkal kaila dhaan irukku.. avangalukku pidikkanum.." Adhu asnwer! I'm NOT saying that a movie is good or bad because "makkalukku pidichirukku". I don't give a damn what makkal think about Hey Ram or Anbe Sivam for e.g.. What i'm saying is self-hype can backfire badly.. it has happened with Alavandhaan and MX. I'm talking about commercial success. I'm pretty sure Dasa screenplay will be nothing less than brilliant, given Nammavar's track record.. but pre-release interviews and hype from Aandavar are signs of danger. Bottom Line: unmaya solradha vida adha enga eppo solradhu-ngaradhu dhaan mukkiyam. _________________ |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:09:35 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
3) Recently, Sarathy Chandrahaasan-a kettaaru Sarathy: "Dasa eppadi vandhurukku..?" Chandrahaasan: "Makkal kaila dhaan irukku.. avangalukku pidikkanum.." Adhu asnwer! ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:12:37 2007. |
karthik_sa2 wrote: |
"aboorava sagaodharagal'ai vida 10 times nalla irrukum'nu sonna then they will start comparing with that will fim and come out with negatives alone.kamal padam sonnale thaana hype create aagidum.think he should stop with that.adhukapparom andha padathula work panna people'am over'a kamal'iyum andha padathiyum pugazhlaradhu should be avoided that too before the film release |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:19:05 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||
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From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 5 2:19:48 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Hell, Asianet aired a 1 hour interview on Onam day, and I thought the interview was also fantastic with a wide range of questions.. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:21:48 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||||
He is not a pessimist. He is a realist ![]() He (nor I) never said it won't be a hit. He just implied "It doesn't matter what i think. The people have to decide". Again, i'm referring to the BO results, not the quality. AV - Minus the hype, the fall would have been smaller. Conversely, maybe it is the hype which was responsible for the opening. MX - The point is NOT whether there is hype or not. The point is about self-hype. In this case, what you have told is even worse - no hype but only self-hype. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:21:59 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:25:16 2007. |
joe wrote: |
I too feel kamal should avoid talking much about his movies before release. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:26:43 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
Hell, Asianet aired a 1 hour interview on Onam day, and I thought the interview was also fantastic with a wide range of questions.. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:28:59 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
unfortunately yes.. the trailor was bad.. the songs were very good but not "commercial"... no get up.. sotha heroine.. side actors who have absolutely no market... ![]() ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:29:27 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
He is not a pessimist. He is a realist ![]() He (nor I) never said it won't be a hit. He just implied "It doesn't matter what i think. The people have to decide". Again, i'm referring to the BO results, not the quality. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:30:20 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||
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From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:32:02 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
CH had told to Narasimman b4 virumandi release "thambi panatha thanniya selavalichurukkaan.. enna nadakkumo? ![]() |
From: Designer on Mon Mar 5 2:32:24 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: | ||
![]() The interview was very artificial ![]() But Kamal's answers made it worth a watch. ------ |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:34:23 2007. |
Designer wrote: |
the way he praised senior actors, without flattering them ![]() |
From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 5 2:38:35 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:41:29 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
Karthikeya ![]() idhAnE vENAm-garadhu.. adhAvadhu, content-thavira matha yellAr mElayum blame-a pOdradhu ![]() |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 2:42:13 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||
Did he mention anything about NT? ![]() |
From: Designer on Mon Mar 5 2:42:18 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||
Did he mention anything about NT? ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 2:45:41 2007. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:46:34 2007. |
Designer wrote: |
Kamal said he wrote this particular dialogue because he wanted his father, NT to tell these words to him, his son !
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From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:48:54 2007. |
From: Roshan on Mon Mar 5 2:49:26 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Yaaravathu kamal pesuratha mattumaavathu video upload pannuna nalla irukkum ![]() |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:51:17 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
avar mattumthaan pEsunaar - Gouthami was looking dumb ![]() ![]() |
From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 5 2:51:23 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
Digg - gautami spoke thus, for a question - naan ungalai Shooting spotla paathirukken, veetlayum paathirukken(intha idaththula balamaana sirippu ezunthathu - courtesy, my rajni fan friends) |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:51:26 2007. |
joe wrote: |
kamal pakthargal (not rasigargal) kamalai vimarsippathu paarkka nalla irukku ![]() |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 2:52:12 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
avar mattumthaan pEsunaar - Gouthami was looking dumb ![]() ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 2:54:48 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Mon Mar 5 2:55:50 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 2:57:37 2007. |
Cinefan wrote: | ||
Thevai illadha comment.What happens in the personal life should be left there. KH idhai romba kaalama kapathurar,hope she follows that in future. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 2:57:51 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Mon Mar 5 2:58:39 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 3:00:46 2007. |
Sanjeevi wrote: |
I remember the programme in Vijay TV by Mathan and Kamal about Virumandi before Virumandi release. It was nice to wach |
From: Thirumaran on Mon Mar 5 3:01:02 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
I am sure kamal will give more interviews atleast for the sake of DASA releasing with more than 1000 prints including hindi.. publicity venum.. its not hype.. |
From: Designer on Mon Mar 5 3:01:28 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Kamal's true friendship with rajini :
In recent function ,NT's grandson's marriage Kalainjar asked rajini(who was sitting 4 seats away) to come and sit his beside ,then Rajini asked kamal also join with them ..Kamal went to kalainjar and told "Aiyya ! Innikku Rajini Thirumana NaL .avarai vazhthunga!" ,then kalainjar wished rajini. |
From: Thirumaran on Mon Mar 5 3:04:13 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
idha nAnga kathukkittadhE Aandavar kitta dhAn ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:13:23 2007. |
From: thimuru on Mon Mar 5 3:17:40 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:18:41 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
i believe the shadow of small girl dancing in the beginning of that program is kamals younger daughter...Ive seen her...
same height hair style......i strongly believe its his younger daughter |
From: thimuru on Mon Mar 5 3:20:03 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
Can u guys give me an example for a movie which flopped due to over hyping?????
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From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:20:39 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
Can u guys give me an example for a movie which flopped due to over hyping?????
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From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:23:07 2007. |
thimuru wrote: | ||
baba aalavandhan |
From: thimuru on Mon Mar 5 3:24:52 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:26:00 2007. |
thimuru wrote: |
aalavandhan had a great chance of becoming a top class thriller or a wonderful masala!
they tried to do both ...that made the difference! |
From: cancer on Mon Mar 5 3:37:56 2007. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Mon Mar 5 3:46:15 2007. |
Cinefan wrote: | ||
Heard about it.I think someone from the Hub has posted it on Youtube too but how about giving more details on that one than this. |
From: karthik_sa2 on Mon Mar 5 3:46:30 2007. |
Quote: |
Designer wrote:
Kamal said he wrote this particular dialogue because he wanted his father, NT to tell these words to him, his son ! wow! Kamal - NT -kku Per Sollum PiLLai |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:47:31 2007. |
From: karthik_sa2 on Mon Mar 5 3:53:56 2007. |
Quote: |
DASA will be the commercial entertainer, so the hype is good for the movie,
Movies like Anbesivam wouldnt hit even though if its hyped much, some ordinary movies became hit because of its hype, exp. Anniyan |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:54:54 2007. |
cancer wrote: |
DASA will be the commercial entertainer, so the hype is good for the movie,
Movies like Anbesivam wouldnt hit even though if its hyped much, some ordinary movies became hit because of its hype, exp. Anniyan. |
From: thimuru on Mon Mar 5 3:55:20 2007. |
karthik_sa2 wrote: | ||
but even anbae sivam had hype |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 3:57:01 2007. |
thimuru wrote: | ||||
no hype...no hype whatsoever...the film came with no hype.... |
From: thimuru on Mon Mar 5 4:03:05 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||||||
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From: Cinefan on Mon Mar 5 4:28:36 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
What we or others think of Annan-Anni is immaterial. What's important is what they mean to each other. We have no business being judgemental about it |
From: breadpuli on Mon Mar 5 4:54:52 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 5:01:31 2007. |
Cinefan wrote: | ||
No one's being judgemental.There was no need/motive to add that line when she was doing a professional( I Hope) interview. Anyways let's leave it at this,surely with Sir,there are more imp things to talk about ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 5:04:05 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
Can u guys give me an example for a movie which flopped due to over hyping?????
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From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 7:43:32 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
We can't prove emprically that a movie flopped ONLY because of hyping. What is important (and will be remembered by the public) is when a movie is hyped by its maker/main person, AND it flops, it becomes an embarassing situation. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 7:50:50 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 8:06:02 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
well he too, like everyone was optimistic during HeyRaam and Aalavanthaan! I guess Bala is not pessimistinc, but he feels its better if aandavar avoids to quote some quantitization, like getting 10 times the response of Aboorva Sagothoarargal. His previous post itself is self-explanatory. if you or me express our expectations, no probs, we don;t have read the script. but the author himself claims something and if, IF, by some chance, it didnt make out, then we will end up the same old situation. Bala never wanted you or me to stop shouting happily about Dasa |
From: kannannn on Mon Mar 5 9:28:43 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Sla_rO528
first part of the interview... |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 9:31:17 2007. |
kannannn wrote: | ||
I think it was Kamal's magnanimity that he put up with such inane questions. 'Tell me about your growth as a producer, director,..'. Kamal kitta ketka vendiya kelviya idhu! ![]() Another question: Manirathnam yen sait madhiri tamizh pesararu? |
From: ramdas2005 on Mon Mar 5 9:33:05 2007. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 9:34:57 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
Another question: Manirathnam yen sait madhiri tamizh pesararu? |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 9:41:05 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
i am not blaming him.. i just want to establish my point that, Hype is only good for a movie.. ![]() Hype, may degrade the actor's reputation.. but, everyone in the industry have hyped and flopped atleast once... ![]() |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 9:49:07 2007. |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 9:52:43 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
Can u guys give me an example for a movie which flopped due to over hyping?????
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From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 9:53:20 2007. |
ramdas2005 wrote: |
Hi,
Kamal mentioned that for the work that has gone into DASA, he wishes(wishful thinking) the response is 10 times as AS, that would be the real salary for the people involved in DASA. He did not give out any more details expect the sloka which KSR asked him to recite. In my opinion he never tried to hype the movie or anything like that. So far the main folks who have talked abt DASA have mentioned how tough it is to do the film, that's it. Also he mentioned if it was purely for money, he would have quit making DASA,The team is trying hard to give something good. So where is the hype here??? |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 9:55:10 2007. |
great wrote: | ||
Aalavandhan!!! |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 9:55:53 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 9:56:23 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Andava,
Thanks for the video ![]() Thinkfloyd, enna unga anni ippadi sothappittanga ![]() |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 9:59:17 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Great/Balaji, chinna slip pannitteengale.. aanaa enna implication?? 1) He just said "vidhyasamana screenplay.. novel-a irukkum..." 2) He said (like Karthi pointed out) "idhula poiyurukkara uzhaippukku Aboorva-vida 10 madangu parattu kidaikkanum..." That is, he was explaining the hardships in acting/making a movie like this wherein he can't afford to be just a director because otherwise there would be slip-ups.. like he has to point out "make-up poga podhu.. andha close-up eduthuralaam" etc.. Context is very important when we quote Balaji ![]() Hope someone would post the remaining part.... [/b] |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 10:05:11 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
no great.. do u think without hype, the movie wud have been a hit???? no chance.. the biggggg budget and a slightly laggin screenplay was the reason.. |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 10:06:38 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Her Thamizh wasn't that bad, considering the fact that she isn't a native speaker... but the questions ![]() By the way, waiting to see K.B's reaction and Raaja's question/answer... |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 10:06:48 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 10:11:44 2007. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 10:15:40 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
joe, enna sirupillaithanamaana kelvi ithu ???? |
Quote: |
he is the Ulaga(tharam vaaintha) nayagan of Indian Cine industry! ithu thaan meaning |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 10:17:46 2007. |
Cinefan wrote: |
great,ulaganayagan&Roshan,
Are you saying that I was better off attending the(prescheduled) dinner meet than watching this program yesterday? |
cancer wrote: |
BUt Gouthami looks good... ![]() |
From: Amarshiva on Mon Mar 5 10:20:08 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
joe, enna sirupillaithanamaana kelvi ithu ????
he is the Ulaga(tharam vaaintha) nayagan of Indian Cine industry! ithu thaan meaning |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 10:22:56 2007. |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Mar 5 10:24:43 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 10:26:45 2007. |
Amarshiva wrote: | ||
I don't know whether it's true or not..But thought I will check with you all about it.. I heard it long back, when I was in 22-23. Now I am in 31. What I heard was, they were looking a foreign actor to Cast as bond 007. Infact, I heard BigB and Kamal's name was recommended. But, thalaivar was too short and bigb said no .. This happened at the time Golden Eye- Peirece Brosnon was selected after that. Again, why it came to mind again is - I could see the same height of the present Bond in kamal (Daniel Craig).. This actually came to mind,when i was watching thalaivar Anbudan program.. Again the recent bond it's a flop one and if it happens that they had to change DG from 007 role, why not thalaivar? Just a thought guys.. |
From: joe on Mon Mar 5 10:28:08 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
But, neenga thaaraalamaa inthiyaavil irukkum nadigargalul ulaga tharam vaaintha vishayangalai thirayil sollum ore Naayagar Kamal appadinnu surukamaa kooppidalaam!! |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 10:28:44 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Mon Mar 5 10:55:37 2007. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
Again the recent bond it's a flop one and if it happens that they had to change DG from 007 role, why not thalaivar? Just a thought guys.. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 11:21:56 2007. |
great wrote: |
yes he did mention that screenpaly would be a Novel attempt. I just typed it in a hurry ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 11:24:26 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||||
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then 'Ulagaththara Nayagan"-nnu vachirukkalame ![]() |
From: great on Mon Mar 5 11:55:27 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||
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From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 15:15:24 2007. |
From: Nerd on Mon Mar 5 15:26:36 2007. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
I don't know whether it's true or not..But thought I will check with you all about it.. I heard it long back, when I was in 22-23. Now I am in 31. What I heard was, they were looking a foreign actor to Cast as bond 007. Infact, I heard BigB and Kamal's name was recommended. But, thalaivar was too short and bigb said no .. This happened at the time Golden Eye- Peirece Brosnon was selected after that. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
Again the recent bond it's a flop one and if it happens that they had to change DG from 007 role, why not thalaivar? |
From: Ulaganayagan on Mon Mar 5 19:03:35 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Though I am a harcore kamal fan I didn't like the title 'Ulaga nayagan' ..I like Super Actor ,kalai Gnani which has apt meaning .But 'Ulaga nayagan'? ..what does it mean ? How come he can be a nayagan of the world?
Ithu patri ungal karuththu ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 21:14:24 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Mon Mar 5 23:11:03 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
The second part of the interview (youtube video) ends just before KB is going to finish telling about that PM incident.
Ferrari, life is cruel! ![]() More thoughts on the 2nd part later... To hell with the program or the presenter.. superb interview as usual just by virtue of Aandavar's answers... Compiling a DVD of Aandavar's interviews - The plan should be amalpaduthified. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Mon Mar 5 23:33:54 2007. |
Quote: |
amalpaduthified |
From: thinkfloyd on Mon Mar 5 23:46:49 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
ha ha ha i 1st thought thats an english word!!!
i have some interview collections from magazines, i will scan and upload them.... |
From: breadpuli on Mon Mar 5 23:51:54 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
joe, enna sirupillaithanamaana kelvi ithu ????
he is the Ulaga(tharam vaaintha) nayagan of Indian Cine industry! ithu thaan meaning |
From: Cinefan on Tue Mar 6 0:14:39 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Aahaa.. naan solla vandhadhu some people were/would be judgemental... there is no need to dismiss it as "personal.. adhanaale pesa vendaam...".. that line implies that "something is wrong, and we need not talk about it.." i was just saying what's wrong with it... ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 0:25:12 2007. |
breadpuli wrote: | ||
We say "Ulaga tharam vaaintha".... Nammavar will make foreigners say "India tharam vaaintha..." ![]() So obviously he is the Ulaga nayagan !! Having said this, I prefer the title "Sakala Kala Vallavan" |
From: groucho070 on Tue Mar 6 0:27:19 2007. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
.. I heard it long back, when I was in 22-23. Now I am in 31. What I heard was, they were looking a foreign actor to Cast as bond 007. Infact, I heard BigB and Kamal's name was recommended. But, thalaivar was too short and bigb said no .. This happened at the time Golden Eye- Peirece Brosnon was selected after that. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
Again, why it came to mind again is - I could see the same height of the present Bond in kamal (Daniel Craig).. This actually came to mind,when i was watching thalaivar Anbudan program.. |
Amarshiva wrote: |
Again the recent bond it's a flop one and if it happens that they had to change DG from 007 role, why not thalaivar? Just a thought guys.. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 1:07:55 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
How tall is Kamal, anyway? Craig is 5'11". |
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Mar 6 1:14:50 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
As Nerd said, Casino Royale is a big hit. Biggest in collection among Bond movies. |
From: groucho070 on Tue Mar 6 1:18:29 2007. |
Sanjeevi wrote: | ||
It is very natural because economy and population has increased now ![]() |
From: Jabroni on Tue Mar 6 1:30:03 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 1:50:31 2007. |
Jabroni wrote: |
Kamal in a Bond movie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: kb on Tue Mar 6 2:00:15 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 2:17:43 2007. |
kb wrote: |
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From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 3:22:34 2007. |
From: breadpuli on Tue Mar 6 3:33:37 2007. |
Jabroni wrote: |
Kamal in a Bond movie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 4:06:31 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Tue Mar 6 4:53:13 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
is bond character such a great role that no other indian actor can do? ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 4:56:17 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
is bond character such a great role that no other indian actor can do? ![]() |
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Mar 6 4:59:20 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 5:02:46 2007. |
Sanguine Sridhar wrote: |
/dig
tf neenga konjam unga PM check pannungalen ![]() end dig/ |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 5:07:08 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
So, to answer your question, only specific actors can do it. Good actors. If Bond is to be transplanted here, it has to be played by someone who can switch between light and dark. Remember, he is a killer first, then an agent. |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 5:09:51 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Vikram was better than any bond film |
From: groucho070 on Tue Mar 6 5:13:34 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
even secondary characters have acted brilliantly in those movies. we have talents unbounded, getting a james bond will not be difficult. thats my point. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 5:26:42 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
pls dont get me started on Vikram - one of the crappiest movie ever made by kamal. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 5:29:10 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Oh, okay. Yes, it takes good actor to pull the Bond role off. I'd say that NOW we have great talents coming in. If the younger set were to play Fleming-like Bond, I'd give it to Arya. He got good fierce look, good acting talent, physics to match and charisma which is not bad. As for the seniors, of course Kamal has it all. Get a bit of a work out, get the Vikram (move, not the actor) character back and make it a bit more darker and violent and you have a great Bond-like flick. Of course, Kamal's effort as we say it in Malaysia, will be sap-sap-suey. That means, 'very easy'. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Mar 6 5:31:54 2007. |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Mar 6 5:53:55 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
I too didn't like the Ulaga Nayagan title. Hell, we discussed about it. But why is it, in English, it becomes Universal Hero. Ulagam does not translate to Universal. Or does it? It's like Miss World is not Miss Universe, the latter whom is certainly not qualified since there might be beauties in Planet Venus. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 5:58:24 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: |
If they want to translate the universal hero title into Tamil, it would have been 'Prabanja Nayagan'.. Now I am not sure how many 'tamil' folks can pronounce and understand the word and if they attempt to do so the title may end up being damaged into some obscene word..
Ulaga Nayagan is simpler I say... |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Mar 6 6:05:17 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
'prapanjam' is a vada mozhichol! (Coming to think of it, what about nAyagan? I'm not sure, though) |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 6:08:41 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
![]() paalaa pOna malaysian censors, kadaisi scene'ayum vettitaanga. ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Mar 6 6:13:08 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 6:13:23 2007. |
Ulaganayagan wrote: | ||
Thats what I thought ![]() I considered ''Anda Saraasaram'' ![]() appo universe-kku tamizh sol enna ? Muzhu Ulagam -nnu ninaikkuren 'Muzhu Ulaga Nayagan'-ukku, Ulaga Nayagan evlavo thevala.. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Mar 6 6:15:18 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
You are right! Universe = aNdam/pEraNdam! ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 6:23:03 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||
no probs, hereafter we will address aandavar as PERANDA PITHAAVE POTTRI ![]() |
From: Ulaganayagan on Tue Mar 6 6:24:27 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Mar 6 7:36:40 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
Exactly, but even that is better than Bond movies, is my point ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 7:38:24 2007. |
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Mar 6 7:43:54 2007. |
From: joe on Tue Mar 6 7:50:12 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||||
aahaa.. ![]() pAr pOtRum pudhumaippithan pEraNda mAvIran paguthaRivu pettagam parisutha AnmA ponnenjamkondAn pAsappErUtRU podhunalappriyan (etimology of priyan doubtful) pagaikkanjA pulithEvan ...... |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 7:56:52 2007. |
joe wrote: |
wow! ithu neenga ezuthunatha? Thamizh-la pinnureenga ![]() |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 9:08:54 2007. |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 9:13:20 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
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From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 9:15:59 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Mar 6 10:43:08 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
what is ulaga nayagan? is he superman or spiderman? ![]() all these are unnecessary in my opinion. nadigar thilagam commands so much respect. a title along those lines would be appropriate. something like nadippu sigaram |
From: Hulkster on Tue Mar 6 10:45:42 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Mar 6 12:24:48 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
sanjeevi,
even vetri vizha and soorasamhaaram are not good movies.. vikram is better than these two movies IMO. |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 12:33:02 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: | ||
Vetri vizha is a good movie.....what did u find wrong there....it was a near to perfect entertainer ![]() If i am not wrong, bourne identity has a similar plot like vetri vizha ![]()
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From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 12:40:25 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Mar 6 12:42:51 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||||
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From: great on Tue Mar 6 12:48:18 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Raja Paarvai theme music:
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() panthuvarALi(?) Fusion = idhu! http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/tamil/s/movie_name.5262/ ["Theme Song"] I googled for a youtube video of this and mp3 download but no results! ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Tue Mar 6 12:53:22 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Raja Paarvai theme music:
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() panthuvarALi(?) Fusion = idhu! http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/tamil/s/movie_name.5262/ ["Theme Song"] I googled for a youtube video of this and mp3 download but no results! ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 12:57:31 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
is that a violin piece??? starts off with a violin piece.. some other instruments are also.. no lyrics.. its chanceless. only illayaraaja can do this.. ![]() ![]() PS: sorry for my shaneful description.. ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 16:10:39 2007. |
From: NOV on Tue Mar 6 20:53:08 2007. |
Hulkster wrote: |
I think NOV sir misunderstood it as us giving kamal ulaga nayagan title ![]() |
From: thimuru on Tue Mar 6 22:39:45 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Tue Mar 6 23:08:40 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Adi Sankara, Bertrand Russel, Periyar, Ananthu, Chandrahaasan, Ilaiyaraaja, - Aandava!!!!!!!!!!! engayo poittiye!!!!!!!!!! ANBE SIVAM ![]() |
From: thinkfloyd on Tue Mar 6 23:19:59 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Did he mention or quote Russell? Whoa! I am reading him now. Got a few books, tough to read, but you do get immersed. Kamal reads Russell, huh? Well, we have something in common. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Vikram was unique for its time. Second time Kamal is gambling. Was it a big hit? Made money? |
From: Movie Cop on Wed Mar 7 0:01:06 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
though, vetri vizha was a big commercial success.. ![]() |
From: Movie Cop on Wed Mar 7 0:01:26 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: |
though, vetri vizha was a big commercial success.. ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Wed Mar 7 0:16:32 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: | ||
Vetri Vizha was a commercial success? ![]() Now, that's news to me ![]() ![]() |
From: ajithfederer on Wed Mar 7 0:19:00 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: | ||
Vetri Vizha was a commercial success? ![]() Now, that's news to me ![]() ![]() |
From: joe on Wed Mar 7 0:21:01 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 0:33:22 2007. |
From: NOV on Wed Mar 7 0:35:57 2007. |
From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 7 0:36:26 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 1:02:39 2007. |
From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 7 1:17:00 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 7 1:20:04 2007. |
Hulkster wrote: |
Still might happen..only reason why Rajini and Kamal are avoiding appearing in a flick together is due to the expectations that will be hard to catch up with...but besides that there is no other barrier for them to come together ![]() |
From: Aandavan on Wed Mar 7 1:21:50 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: | ||
A couple of more reasons ![]() 1) Cost 2) Mayhem in the theatres |
From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 7 1:21:57 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Wed Mar 7 1:32:29 2007. |
Aandavan wrote: | ||||
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From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 7 1:39:46 2007. |
From: thimuru on Wed Mar 7 1:41:44 2007. |
From: Aandavan on Wed Mar 7 1:48:00 2007. |
Hulkster wrote: |
Can anyone explain to me what karthik means by paradise unit in rajini movie? ![]() |
From: NOV on Wed Mar 7 1:48:56 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 7 1:58:11 2007. |
Hulkster wrote: |
Mayhem in the theaters....you mean a rajini fan vs kamal fan fight is possible...i thought that only happens if a rajini movie and kamal movie are competing against each other ![]() |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 2:02:15 2007. |
From: thimuru on Wed Mar 7 2:15:12 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Don't know, Nov. Very remote chance.
I had always fancied buddy movies of the 80s. Anyone familiar with Midnight Run? De Niro and Grodin? Make some adjustment, and you have a great buddy movie. Of course, it starts antagonistically. Would be good for Rajini and Kamal. And Thimiru, despite my Talaivar's great presence and Van Cleef's menacing performance, the acting scope is that of Wallach's. So, Sathyaraj will get to do the acting while Kamal and Rajini slug it out. Now, we are talking about real riot in theatre. Just ask Selva ![]() |
From: Hulkster on Wed Mar 7 2:25:37 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
illa Hulkster, Volatile is an understatement. Though Kamal and Rajini don't compete, fans will ![]() Even for second releases, its like that... ivaLavu yen, Thevar Magan appove prachanai aachu! |
From: thimuru on Wed Mar 7 2:27:39 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 2:46:20 2007. |
From: thinkfloyd on Wed Mar 7 3:02:33 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
Sometimes I feel it's not right. Being fans of both, I usually advice others not to compare both of their films or performance, being that they are different performers (from one root, though) and their movies are different. But when you put them together, they have to perform in similar rythmn under one roof. Would you compare? I never did, when watching their older efforts, though most of the time one steals the other's thunder (I won't say who, manasatchi taanggaathu). |
From: thimuru on Wed Mar 7 3:06:41 2007. |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 3:35:35 2007. |
thinkfloyd wrote: |
Groucho, With all due respect to your opinions, advice and all, let's please stick to Kamal in this thread please. |
From: groucho070 on Wed Mar 7 6:10:27 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Mar 20 9:21:57 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Sat Mar 24 19:03:06 2007. |
From: Wibha on Sun Mar 25 0:50:43 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L793KsGF2yg
Meendum Kokila ![]() |
From: Amarshiva on Sun Apr 1 14:28:57 2007. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri May 18 8:55:50 2007. |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri May 18 8:58:07 2007. |
From: Amarshiva on Fri May 18 10:51:21 2007. |
Shakthiprabha wrote: |
I always get reminded of
sigappu rojakkaL (hanky scene) when he gets himself introduced to shridevi. Simply too romantic to resist admiring the scene ![]() |
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri May 18 12:49:32 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jun 8 16:57:41 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Jun 9 15:21:13 2007. |
From: vasanth2006 on Sat Jun 9 15:33:14 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Mon Jun 11 13:51:19 2007. |
vasanth2006 wrote: |
my favorite kamal movies....
1) maha nadhi 2) guna 3) nayakan 4) kuruthipunal 5) devar magan 6) salangai oli 7) moondram pirai 8) virumandi 9) anbe sivam 10) punnagai mannan 11) sathya 12) Hey Ram and etc.... Beautiful movies.... all are in world class...... ULAGA NAYAGAN ROCKS........such a fantastic actor...... ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Mon Jun 11 14:01:36 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: | ||
I noticed whenever ppl list fav. KH movies - there are couple of movies that he acted under KB direction either gets missed out or underrated. One is "Varumaiyin Niram Sigappu" and the other one is "Unnal Mudiyum Thambi"... ![]() ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 11 19:23:18 2007. |
From: kannannn on Mon Jun 11 19:43:02 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jun 11 21:07:20 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
KB has another cross to carry for making Kamal give the same expressions when he gets angry. |
From: palanikumaran on Tue Jun 12 0:47:33 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Unnal Mudiyum Thambi - As an Aandavar bhakthan i have never been proud of this film in Nammavar's repertoire ![]() One of his lesser performances as an actor. Cliched "Kamal" expressions and reactions..... |
From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 12 1:31:21 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: | ||
its a remake of telugu classic "rudraveena"...which is considered to be the best of chiru in terms of class |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jun 12 1:35:35 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
Especially VR MBBS which he did, for bucks. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Jun 12 1:40:29 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
KB has another cross to carry for making Kamal give the same expressions when he gets angry. |
From: thilak4life on Tue Jun 12 1:41:12 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
Thilak, Definitely not for bucks. Infact, Gemini Films made a killing. Doing that also meant no scope in AP/KN as it was already made there. Jayam Ravi-a vechu panra padathukku Aandavar edhukku? He did it for L.V Prasad's grandson. |
From: kannannn on Tue Jun 12 5:36:17 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
mmm... For a lesser actor, maybe we can blame the director but not for Nammavar. Avarukke interest illama irundhirukkalaam... |
From: kannannn on Wed Jun 13 6:54:54 2007. |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 7:10:23 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
போட்டா வடியுது..
One of my favourite Kamal sung songs. The lip movement is a bit out of sync in this clip, but in the original clip, the way the song restarts after the din from train and aircraft dies down is just perfect. |
From: selvakumar on Wed Jun 13 7:17:49 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: | ||
its a remake of telugu classic "rudraveena"...which is considered to be the best of chiru in terms of class |
From: kannannn on Wed Jun 13 7:17:51 2007. |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 10:16:29 2007. |
selvakumar wrote: | ||||
![]() I thought that RudraVeena is the remade one and UMT is the original. UMT is one of those very few KB films that I like. AThuvum Original illaya ![]() |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 10:18:55 2007. |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 12:03:16 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
போட்டா படியுது..
One of my favourite Kamal sung songs. The lip movement is a bit out of sync in this clip, but in the original clip, the way the song restarts after the din from train and aircraft dies down is just perfect. |
From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Jun 13 12:10:35 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
It's a nice song Kannan. He'd bring out all that emotions and feelings ( (aathiram, kObam, aathangam) through his voice. Song sequence-um azhagu. Romba nallA paNNuvAr. Just see his expressions for the line "mEdai pEchum vArthai veechum yEn" - oru sOru patham ![]() |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 12:18:05 2007. |
raaja_rasigan wrote: |
baaradha naattukkoru kottai suvar naamaga aayiram vedhangalum vaadhangalum thoolaga ![]() |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:20:07 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jun 13 12:27:17 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: |
thininjavan kEtta vidiyudhu vidiyudhu |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:34:47 2007. |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 12:35:18 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: |
madai pEchum vaarthai theechum yEn |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:35:41 2007. |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:36:46 2007. |
From: joe on Wed Jun 13 12:38:53 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: |
IS IT REALLY VEECHU...I DOUBT ![]() |
From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:40:52 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||
அது 'வீச்சு' தான் . நீங்க சொல்லுற 'தீச்சு'-க்கு என்ன அர்த்தம்? ![]() |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 12:40:52 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: |
IS IT REALLY VEECHU...I DOUBT ![]() |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 12:48:46 2007. |
palanikumaran wrote: | ||||
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From: palanikumaran on Wed Jun 13 12:51:53 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||||||
Kamal Hassan abimAnigaL ellOrum, konjam nalla thamizh katrukoLvathu avarukku seyyum miga periya mariyAthaigaLil ondru enbathu en thAzhmaiyAna abiprAyam ![]() |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 12:56:46 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||||||
Kamal Hassan abimAnigaL ellOrum, konjam nalla thamizh katrukoLvathu avarukku seyyum miga periya mariyAthaigaLil ondru enbathu en thAzhmaiyAna abiprAyam ![]() |
From: joe on Wed Jun 13 13:00:52 2007. |
Selvam_mayyam wrote: | ||||||||
idu nalla irukE! bengali..malyali, telugu, hindi fans yenna panuvanga? ![]()
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From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 13:07:55 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||||||||||
அவரவர் தாய்மொழியை நன்கு கற்றுக்கொள்வது நல்லது. கமல்ஹாசன் வெறும் நடிகர் மட்டுலல்ல .தமிழில் அவர் ஒரு கவிஞர் ,எழுத்தாளர் ,தமிழ் அன்பர் .எனவே கமல் மேல் பற்று கொண்ட தமிழ் ரசிகர்கள் ,அவர் போல தமிழ் மேலும் பற்று கொண்டிருந்தால் அவர் மகிழ்வார். |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 13:38:34 2007. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jun 13 13:39:52 2007. |
Selvam_mayyam wrote: |
questn in hey ram... why s da blood spilling lik a mini foutain frm rani's throat? any idea ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jun 13 13:43:24 2007. |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 13:44:59 2007. |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 13:46:05 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: | ||
I'm sure Kamal would have done the research in talkin to ppl who have seen such sights before, that's why! ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Jun 13 13:46:49 2007. |
Selvam_mayyam wrote: | ||||
idellam oru reason? any doctors or anatomy students here who can confirm??? |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jun 13 13:48:03 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
போட்டா படியுது..
One of my favourite Kamal sung songs. The lip movement is a bit out of sync in this clip, but in the original clip, the way the song restarts after the din from train and aircraft dies down is just perfect. |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 13 14:06:52 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
my fav line in this song is unakkithu late aa puriythu puriyuthu puriyuthu
i equate that line to some TN Audience ![]() |
From: kannannn on Wed Jun 13 14:08:35 2007. |
Selvam_mayyam wrote: |
questn in hey ram... why s da blood spilling lik a mini foutain frm rani's throat? any idea ![]() |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 14:39:09 2007. |
From: kb on Wed Jun 13 14:41:07 2007. |
From: Selvam_mayyam on Wed Jun 13 14:43:05 2007. |
kb wrote: |
virumaandi climax paarunga.. innoru kelvi ketpeenga |
From: Roshan on Thu Jun 14 0:31:13 2007. |
Selvam_mayyam wrote: | ||
dat climax ![]() no questions..it ws crap! bt da film s good.. i wud give it 3 out of 4 stars.. hey ram will get 3.75 on 4.. if nt fr some terrible scenes..it wud get 4 on 4. |
From: avven on Thu Jun 14 0:41:02 2007. |
From: Wibha on Thu Jun 14 0:46:11 2007. |
From: palanikumaran on Thu Jun 14 5:01:15 2007. |
avven wrote: |
i liked the virumandi climax ![]() ![]() |
From: palanikumaran on Thu Jun 14 5:02:55 2007. |
Wibha wrote: |
aalvandan ![]() |
From: madhus369 on Thu Jun 14 15:30:59 2007. |
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 14 16:02:53 2007. |
madhus369 wrote: |
One of my favorite scenes is in Anbe Sivam. Actually it is the last scene, when he lets his would-be killer go away:
" பொழைச்சு போ" This could also qualify as probably the best oneliner in Tamil movies. |
From: madhus369 on Thu Jun 14 19:34:30 2007. |
From: selvakumar on Tue Jun 19 10:53:53 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jun 20 1:26:51 2007. |
selvakumar wrote: |
Hats of to GM ! that scene was fantastic ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: unique on Wed Jun 20 2:45:47 2007. |
From: Roshan on Wed Jun 20 15:22:11 2007. |
selvakumar wrote: |
Just saw few of the scenes from VV once again:
the scene in which KH proposes to Kamalini is just amazing. ![]() ![]() Kamalini looked ![]() ![]() Kamalini: Hey ! ...yy Its too fast for me KH : enakku idhu romba slow (something ||| to this) ![]() ![]() And again "2 nimishathulayae solli iruppen" ![]() ![]() Hats of to GM ! that scene was fantastic ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: madhus369 on Thu Jun 21 10:57:52 2007. |
From: selvakumar on Thu Jun 21 11:16:15 2007. |
From: sakthivel_cool on Thu Jun 21 12:24:16 2007. |
From: Roshan on Thu Jun 21 13:00:45 2007. |
selvakumar wrote: |
oh Roshan. Just saw this one. ![]() Good one with neat step by step explanation. Wonderful scene. |
From: Yathu on Thu Jun 21 13:51:49 2007. |
sakthivel_cool wrote: |
One of my favorite scenes: Kamal's interview to Raj tv in thenali ![]() |
From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Jun 22 3:25:20 2007. |
Yathu wrote: | ||
Yeah, that scene was both funny and sad! Great acting by Kamal! |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jul 10 10:49:04 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jul 11 8:07:44 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jul 11 10:50:23 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Old interview which, i think might have already been posted. Worth reading again...
http://www.mybindi.com/arts-entertainment/whatson/tiff-interview_kamalhassan.cfm |
Quote: |
I want to do with cinema what Gandhi did politically. |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 11:04:52 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||||
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From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jul 11 11:09:07 2007. |
From: joe on Wed Jul 11 11:11:20 2007. |
kannannn wrote: | ||||||
Can be taken in two ways: try to forge unity through movies as Gandhi did politically (which I am sure won't work) or cleanse movie world of fanaticism and blind following (which I am sure won't work either). |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 11:20:33 2007. |
From: joe on Wed Jul 11 11:28:13 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
CR, yes ![]() ![]() Joe, explain please ![]() |
kamal wrote: |
Hey! Ram flopped, but I don't care. It was an arbitrary, tyrannical decision and the support that I have got has made it worth it. I want to do with cinema what Gandhi did politically. |
From: sriranga on Wed Jul 11 11:33:22 2007. |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 11:43:02 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Irrespective of failure,Kamal wants to experiemnt just like Ghandhi tried various methods in politics (Non cooperative movement ,Uppu Sathiyagraham ,Ahimsa etc etc) |
From: joe on Wed Jul 11 11:46:32 2007. |
kannannn wrote: | ||
Hmm.. maybe you have a point Joe. But wasn't Kamal referring to the internal politics of that time? I think Gandhi's appeals for communal harmony were out of concern. Or atleast so they would seem. Would he dare exeriment with something so explosive? |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jul 11 11:48:32 2007. |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 11:58:03 2007. |
joe wrote: |
I would say ,the India-Pakistan partition is very much explosive ,which is the main reason for his assasination. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jul 11 12:01:07 2007. |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 12:33:43 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Jul 11 12:44:12 2007. |
kannannn wrote: | ||
Ahaa, Joe.. andha angle discuss panradhe explosive for this thread ![]() |
From: kannannn on Wed Jul 11 12:56:47 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
ஒரு ஓநாயா இருந்து பார்த்தாத்தான் அந்த தர்மம் புரியும் |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Jul 11 13:00:31 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 12 1:04:19 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
are we confusing between truth and opinion?? ![]() ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 12 1:34:45 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
The Saket Ram under Abhyankar's 'control' believes that eliminating the appeasing Gandhi is the only way to reinstate a Hindu rashtra. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Also, "experiment" here may refer to history or the past. In that sense, isn't truth depicted as an eternal phenomenon? |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 12 1:44:26 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
While he is no great fan of the Hindu rashtra itself:
" ada uLLa vaayyA ........adhAn mAmA illaiyE" "idhellAm un vignyAnaththukku appArppattadhu..." "bagavAnukkum appArppattadhO ?" The Hindu jingoism is just a driftwood for him and he clings on to it absurdly when all he had was a misplaced personal vengeance. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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Prabhu Ram wrote: |
If someone is balanced enough to say "Hey ! this is just an opinion, perhaps not the absolute truth" then he is unlikely to be an extremist. Extremism of any sort stems from the belief that one's 'opinion' is the only truth. In terms of selecting the 'best' truth, the movie moved still did not move towards a simple acceptance of Gandhi, the man, as the 'only' one. Doesn't it seem bull-headed and seem like the vocabulary of a fanatic when Gandhi says " I will only listen to the voice within me" ? When his assistants are impatient with the man who asks Gandhi to go to the Himalayas, Gandhi's reaction is shown as the 'Mahatma's approach to truth. That it does not always imply agreement. That it can remain fragmented, the solutions will not be simple. And it will require an effort to rise beyond and see the bigger picture. And most importantly: that effort is humanly possible. |
From: joe on Thu Jul 12 1:45:23 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 12 1:54:40 2007. |
joe wrote: |
ஹேராம் ஏன் வெற்றி அடையவில்லை என இப்போது புரிகிறது . பாடப்புத்தகத்தில் 'அசோகர் மரங்களை நட்டார்' ,"காந்தி இந்தியாவுக்கு சுதந்திரம் வாங்கித் தந்தார்" என்ற ரீதியில் சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கப்பட்ட வரலாறுகளையும் பலரைப்பற்றி ஏற்படுத்தபட்ட புனித பிம்பங்களையும் தாண்டிய பார்வையும் ,சுய தேடலும் இல்லாத பெரும்பான்மையோர் நிறைந்த சமுதாயத்தில் ,மிஞ்சியுள்ள ஒரு சிலரும் சினிமாவை விட்டு எட்டி நிறபதே அறிவு ஜீவித்தனம் என்று நினைக்கிற நாட்டில் ஹேராம் வெற்றி பெறுவதென்பது குதிரைக்கொம்பு தான். |
From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 2:05:04 2007. |
joe wrote: |
ஹேராம் ஏன் வெற்றி அடையவில்லை என இப்போது புரிகிறது . பாடப்புத்தகத்தில் 'அசோகர் மரங்களை நட்டார்' ,"காந்தி இந்தியாவுக்கு சுதந்திரம் வாங்கித் தந்தார்" என்ற ரீதியில் சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கப்பட்ட வரலாறுகளையும் பலரைப்பற்றி ஏற்படுத்தபட்ட புனித பிம்பங்களையும் தாண்டிய பார்வையும் ,சுய தேடலும் இல்லாத பெரும்பான்மையோர் நிறைந்த சமுதாயத்தில் ,மிஞ்சியுள்ள ஒரு சிலரும் சினிமாவை விட்டு எட்டி நிறபதே அறிவு ஜீவித்தனம் என்று நினைக்கிற நாட்டில் ஹேராம் வெற்றி பெறுவதென்பது குதிரைக்கொம்பு தான். |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 12 2:11:24 2007. |
joe wrote: |
ஹேராம் ஏன் வெற்றி அடையவில்லை என இப்போது புரிகிறது . பாடப்புத்தகத்தில் 'அசோகர் மரங்களை நட்டார்' ,"காந்தி இந்தியாவுக்கு சுதந்திரம் வாங்கித் தந்தார்" என்ற ரீதியில் சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கப்பட்ட வரலாறுகளையும் பலரைப்பற்றி ஏற்படுத்தபட்ட புனித பிம்பங்களையும் தாண்டிய பார்வையும் ,சுய தேடலும் இல்லாத பெரும்பான்மையோர் நிறைந்த சமுதாயத்தில் ,மிஞ்சியுள்ள ஒரு சிலரும் சினிமாவை விட்டு எட்டி நிறபதே அறிவு ஜீவித்தனம் என்று நினைக்கிற நாட்டில் ஹேராம் வெற்றி பெறுவதென்பது குதிரைக்கொம்பு தான். |
From: joe on Thu Jul 12 2:22:32 2007. |
From: joe on Thu Jul 12 2:35:49 2007. |
From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 2:38:13 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
i read about Anna sayint "_ _ _ _ onrum padithaanda pathiniyum alla, naanum mutrum thurantha munivanum alla" after reading that i felt bad about Anna, periyaar the whole DK, DK, |
From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 2:41:01 2007. |
joe wrote: |
இங்கு மரபுகளை உடைப்பதும் ,தள்ளி விடப்பட்டுள்ள கிணற்றுக்கு வெளியே தப்பி செல்ல நினைப்பதும் பாவம் .அங்கேயே சமத்தா இருந்தா நல்லவர் ,வல்லவர்-ன்னு பேர் வாங்கலாம் . |
From: joe on Thu Jul 12 2:41:27 2007. |
From: smith1 on Thu Jul 12 2:52:20 2007. |
From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 3:16:13 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Roshan,
Ithai konjam padinga http://blog.nandhaonline.com/?p=16 |
From: Cinemarasigan on Thu Jul 12 3:37:55 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
Thanks ![]() |
From: kannannn on Thu Jul 12 5:35:24 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
are we confusing between truth and opinion?? ![]() ![]() |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
In terms of selecting the 'best' truth, the movie moved still did not move towards a simple acceptance of Gandhi, the man, as the 'only' one. Doesn't it seem bull-headed and seem like the vocabulary of a fanatic when Gandhi says " I will only listen to the voice within me" ? |
Joe wrote: |
ஹேராம் ஏன் வெற்றி அடையவில்லை என இப்போது புரிகிறது . பாடப்புத்தகத்தில் 'அசோகர் மரங்களை நட்டார்' ,"காந்தி இந்தியாவுக்கு சுதந்திரம் வாங்கித் தந்தார்" என்ற ரீதியில் சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கப்பட்ட வரலாறுகளையும் பலரைப்பற்றி ஏற்படுத்தபட்ட புனித பிம்பங்களையும் தாண்டிய பார்வையும் ,சுய தேடலும் இல்லாத பெரும்பான்மையோர் நிறைந்த சமுதாயத்தில் ,மிஞ்சியுள்ள ஒரு சிலரும் சினிமாவை விட்டு எட்டி நிறபதே அறிவு ஜீவித்தனம் என்று நினைக்கிற நாட்டில் ஹேராம் வெற்றி பெறுவதென்பது குதிரைக்கொம்பு தான். |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 12 5:49:08 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 12 6:47:43 2007. |
From: Nerd on Thu Jul 12 10:55:30 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
What's the use? All these schmucks who suffer from ADD, would blame the 'filmmaker' and pass it off as 'boring'! All they need is a film with few punj dialaks, 5 songs (or more), 1 koothu song, Hero vs Villain storyline, romance, sentiment, routine melodrama, etc..etc.. (nothing wrong if the 'treatment' is 'entertaining' but then, when people find some bullcrap to be 'entertaining', I don't know what to say about them! ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Thu Jul 12 11:02:34 2007. |
Nerd wrote: | ||
I dont get it! I thought you guys will say a few good things about hey raam, which incidentally is one of my most fav movies. But whats happening here is the exact opposite. Bringing down other movies and blaming moviegoers, huh ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 12 12:55:27 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
Last week's kumudam's Arasu BadhilgaL had an interesting answer about Gandhi's wife and her unspoken sacrifices. Gandhiyum male chauvinism-ku utpattavar enbathu purinthathu athai padikkumpOthu. |
From: Roshan on Thu Jul 12 13:43:25 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Try Shyam Benegal's film: 'Making of the Mahatma'. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 14:44:18 2007. |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 14:48:13 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Another silly punch from VV...
Kamal: Yenga naan police (or something like that)... Beggar: Ippo thaanae vangittu ponaanga! Maripadiyum? Kamal: Unga kitta irunthumaa? ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 14:49:56 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
Yes Bay !! beauty is - romba casual-a irukkum antha conversation. Even when KH inquires the begger whether the vehicle which took Rani was a car or van - casual and natural. |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 14:52:14 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 15:02:23 2007. |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:05:34 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Fri Jul 13 15:06:23 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: |
The whole thing about VV was it was a "walk in the park" type of role for a genius actor like KH. KH's performance in the whole movie was very casual in a role that hardly "tests" his acting skills. ![]() "Chinna Pasengala yaaru kitta da vilayadareenga!" ![]() |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 15:11:42 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
VV is just another testament that a great actor like Kamal can pull out a subdued role with ease, unlike a few other regional actors, who can do that WONLY ![]() |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:13:36 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: |
The whole thing about VV was it was a "walk in the park" type of role for a genius actor like KH. KH's performance in the whole movie was very casual in a role that hardly "tests" his acting skills. ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 15:14:19 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
Hey Bay !! Looks like you remember the entire dialogues ![]() ![]() When he proposes to Jo at the airport and expresses that he'd take care of her and her daughter Maya well. "Kayal sAgumpOthu avaLukku anju maasam. Antha kozhanthaiyA Maya iruppa, naan avalUkku oru nalla appAvA iruppEn and... namma reNdu pErukkum ava orE magaLA iruppa ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Fri Jul 13 15:15:56 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
I disagree. It was an all in all subtle and underplayed performance with great control. Athuvum part of acting skills thAn. Hollywood movies-la ellAm actors casual-A paNNa ahA oHo-nu pugaluvaanga but when an Indian actor does it - it is seen in a different way. Enna kodumai idhu Ragavan ![]() ![]() |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 15:16:22 2007. |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:18:31 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Jo: Ivlo therincha ungalukku, sela vishayangala sollaama irukarthu-thaan nallathu-nu theriyalayaa? Kamal: ![]() |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:22:45 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: |
Roshan/Bay,
May fav. dialogues from VV are between KH & Jo. I don't remember the exact dilagoues but they are: 1. Naan Telugu irundhalum ungala kaapathirupen! ![]() 2. Software ukkum enakkum sambandham kidayadhu... Naan full-a hardware! ![]() The way KH delivers those funny dialgoues with a serious, poker face! KH is just briiliant ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jul 13 15:24:31 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 15:26:15 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
It was an all in all subtle and underplayed performance with great control. Athuvum part of acting skills thAn. Hollywood movies-la ellAm actors casual-A paNNa ahA oHo-nu pugaluvaanga but when an Indian actor does it - it is seen in a different way. Enna kodumai idhu Ragavan ![]() ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Fri Jul 13 15:26:43 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
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From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:29:54 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
A serious one...
Kamal: Avaroda kadaisi kaariyathaiyaavathu avanga mata muraipadi Olunga pannanum Sir! Atleast, I owe him this much... Actually, I owe him a lot! ![]() |
From: Roshan on Fri Jul 13 15:32:59 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: | ||
Roshan - I didn't say that it was an easy role to play; just meant it was an easy role for an actor of the calibre of KH. A role like DCP Raghavan could be stretch for other/most actors but not for KH. ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 15:51:34 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: |
Roshan/Bay,
May fav. dialogues from VV are between KH & Jo. I don't remember the exact dilagoues but they are: 1. Naan Telugu irundhalum ungala kaapathirupen! ![]() 2. Software ukkum enakkum sambandham kidayadhu... Naan full-a hardware! ![]() The way KH delivers those funny dialgoues with a serious, poker face! KH is just briiliant ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 15:53:16 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
And he nods his head making her feel that he understands her ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 15:54:01 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
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From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 15:55:24 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
intha idathula nAn kuRippA gavanichEn - he will say "avanga nambikkaipadi" not "matha muRaippadi" ![]() ![]() |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 16:16:24 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Kamal: Yean??? Jo: Manirathnam padathula vara maathiri paesureenga! YAEN! ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 16:18:47 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: | ||
That was a funny one too, Bay! One other thing I liked about VV besides KH is that the dialogues were for the most part practical/realistic. Those are the kind of ones normally one would talk in day-to-day life! The only dialogues with cinematic undertones were the scenes involving the villains. ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 16:52:13 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 19:00:29 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
* Nellai meen kolambu manakkuthu! En veetlayum panraangalae... Pisssssaaaa, Macarooniiii - Enna baasha-nae puriya maatnguthu! ![]() etc etc... |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 19:04:53 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 19:19:07 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
I understand! But if they had to reveal the killers in a thriller/suspense movie only at the climax, then they'd also have to have them as some moving characters in the main stream itself throughout! In this case, they needed the 2nd half to explain why those morons were actually morons, and how the cops trace them! It definitely dint look like a masala at any point to me! ![]() |
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Jul 13 19:24:11 2007. |
From: Movie Cop on Fri Jul 13 19:29:22 2007. |
From: thamiz on Fri Jul 13 21:25:36 2007. |
Movie Cop wrote: |
Exactly! There was no consistency/connection on what those 2 kids were talking about throughout the movie, unfortunately! ![]() |
From: ajithfederer on Fri Jul 13 21:48:39 2007. |
From: Roshan on Sat Jul 14 1:53:13 2007. |
m_23_bayarea wrote: |
Some more teeny-tiny dialogues from VV!
* Unakku irukura orae vazhi, kambi yenrathu! Unakko Kanakku varaathu... So Vaa Mani, nallaiku kaalaila station-la vanthu surrender aayidu! Thambigalaa, neenga ellam vera vela paathukonga paa! ![]() * Who's this guy, Anderson! He's somewhere out there... I'll get him! ![]() * Avana pudikanum Raagavan! En ponna ipdi pannanrathukaaga naan ipdi sollala! Oru ponna, intha maathiri alongolam pannitu oruthan santhoshama nada maadikittu irukkan! ![]() * Nellai meen kolambu manakkuthu! En veetlayum panraangalae... Pisssssaaaa, Macarooniiii - Enna baasha-nae puriya maatnguthu! ![]() etc etc... |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Jul 14 5:47:58 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3478205360792460998&q=Virumaandi&total=12&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
Virumaandi |
From: NOV on Sat Jul 14 8:57:52 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
From nowhere VirumAndi springs from apparent obscenity to brutal logic.
What an intro ! (I consider this too to be an intro) |
From: Devar Magan on Sun Jul 15 6:45:20 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Jul 15 8:11:49 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
to make it even better, the intro (song etc) should have been avoided. then it would have been serious film making. also the songs were just too many. would have been happy with just unnai vida. |
NOV wrote: |
also were the smooching scenes necessary? ![]() |
From: NOV on Sun Jul 15 10:07:53 2007. |
Devar Magan wrote: |
is virumandi not a money making movie? |
From: NOV on Sun Jul 15 10:12:21 2007. |
From: joe on Sun Jul 15 11:18:17 2007. |
From: NOV on Sun Jul 15 11:24:06 2007. |
From: joe on Sun Jul 15 11:27:14 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
as usual joe, neenga enna solla vareenganu enakku puriyala. ![]() |
From: NOV on Sun Jul 15 11:31:41 2007. |
From: thamiz on Sun Jul 15 12:46:10 2007. |
joe wrote: |
as usual joe, neenga enna solla vareenganu enakku puriyala. ![]() |
From: joe on Thu Jul 19 1:29:48 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Jul 19 1:37:22 2007. |
joe wrote: |
நடிகர் திலகம் கமல்ஹாசனைப் பார்த்து "உங்களைத் தானே நம்பியிருக்கோம்" - என்று சொல்லும் போது அதில் ஆயிரம் அர்த்தங்கள் பொதிந்திருக்கிறது . |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 19 2:34:06 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 19 2:36:45 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jul 19 2:51:09 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
I rate nayagan too high than Heyraam, or any other kamal movie. The next one would be Devar Magan! |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Jul 19 4:21:40 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Fri Jul 20 19:27:12 2007. |
From: RajaRam on Wed Jul 25 10:15:36 2007. |
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=xc1PJq1g1w8 |
From: smith1 on Wed Jul 25 10:29:28 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Wed Jul 25 10:44:09 2007. |
RajaRam wrote: | ||
கலக்கல் பாடல். விசில் சத்தத்தில் தியெட்டர் குலுங்கியது. |
From: madhus369 on Wed Jul 25 11:07:28 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Jul 25 11:08:07 2007. |
RajaRam wrote: | ||
கலக்கல் பாடல். விசில் சத்தத்தில் தியெட்டர் குலுங்கியது. |
From: thilak4life on Wed Jul 25 11:42:38 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
The first movie Thirumaran saw for the second time in theater ![]() ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Aug 23 2:11:54 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Thu Aug 23 3:32:56 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
kuruthippunal - none
indian - Thatha comes in TV Avvai - hero is interviewed by crazy mohan in TV Hey raam - none Tenali - Again interview to Raj TV Aalavanthan - heroine is Star TV Journalist PKS - none Panchathantiram - none Anbe Sivam - Maddy is AD fim maker and his TV Ad is shown Virumaandi - the movie starts with, media persons entering into jail for interviews, in climax, the whole jail scene is shown in News, the very end debate is live on TV, as the film ends Vasoolraja - none MX - none VV - kamal, hurt and injured, shown in TV |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Aug 23 3:57:57 2007. |
From: omega on Thu Aug 23 7:25:47 2007. |
joe wrote: |
எத்தனையோ காட்சிகள் நம் மனதை மயக்குவதாக இருக்கலாம் .ஆனால் இதைப் போல என்னை உணர்ச்சிவசப்பட வைத்த காட்சி எதுவுமில்லை.
நடிப்புலகின் தலைமகனும் அவர் கலையுல வாரிசு கலைஞானியும் இங்கே நடிப்புக்கு இலக்கணம் வகுக்கிறார்கள் . நடிகர் திலகம் கமல்ஹாசனைப் பார்த்து "உங்களைத் தானே நம்பியிருக்கோம்" - என்று சொல்லும் போது அதில் ஆயிரம் அர்த்தங்கள் பொதிந்திருக்கிறது . எத்தனை முறை பார்த்தாலும் கண்களில் நீர் கோர்க்க வைக்கும் காட்சி... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zajOWloDcwM தமிழ் திரையுலக வரலாற்றின் மிகச்சிறந்த காட்சிகளில் ஒன்று. |
From: joe on Fri Aug 24 0:33:06 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 2:54:22 2007. |
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a doubt from a scene in virumaandi the scene :- when kamal goes to meet pasupathy, pasupathy will be shaving his armpits andha scene la kamal : "enna pesureenga neenga, onga kooda kootaali ya onnukulla onna irukalaamnu vandhaa...." pasupathy : "kootali yaa....en kooda vaa.....yedhukku" kamal : " pinna, annalakshmi dhaan nethu yen usura kaapathichu " for that pasupathy's reaction would turn into ANGER.....he wud shout "annalakshmi annalakshmi.....".....then abhirami will also come and try to justify what she had done is not wrong....... this is what i don't understand.......though pasupathy shud get angry according to the script, he wasn't supposed to show his displeasure at kamal's survival by shouting angrily.....and even kamal is unbothered as to why pasupathy is shouting..... did i understand the scene wrong ????? or is there a mistake ??? |
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annalakshmi says... kazhudhayo naaikuttiyo manushano....kuthiyurum kolayirum aa kadakayilae...paathutu summa va irukka mduiyum... what does this mean ????? this implies that pasupathy publicly displayed his anger only because kamal was alive and not because annalakshmi didn't tell it to him |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 3:03:33 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Aug 24 4:12:41 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 4:17:49 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 4:28:15 2007. |
From: Corleone on Fri Aug 24 4:41:24 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
to put it simply, peikaamans anger is that annalakshmi unexpectedly entered into the [crime] plot, which peikan didnt knew b4 virumaandi told him. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Aug 24 7:40:29 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Aug 24 11:52:26 2007. |
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kazhudhayo naaikuttiyo manushano....kuthiyurum kolayirum aa kadakayilae...paathutu summa va irukka mduiyum... |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 12:49:05 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
And anyway this is show of anger is justified as parent chiding his daughter for having a male acquaintance.
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From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Aug 24 13:38:08 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
It appears to be too strong and too quick/spontaneous reaction for a fatherly/brotherly anger. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
So, you mean, even if he doesn't *say* anything, both Annam and Virumaandi "think" that kothALan is angry because of the "Annam-pazhagufying-with-Viruman" angle? |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 13:48:34 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Aug 24 14:12:46 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Thanks PR ![]() Orkut-la post panren ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Aug 24 14:20:35 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Trust you post about "karuvi" when some light is thrown on that. |
From: kannannn on Sun Aug 26 18:29:23 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
The source of his anger is elsewhere but his outburst is acceptable even for the ostensible reason. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Can anyone elaborate on Peikkaman's line "nAma ellArumE karuvinga dhAn" when Rohini is interviewing Virumaandi? |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Aug 29 0:39:28 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
Peykaaman's is one of the best secondary characterisations in recent times. That 'Karuvi' line is absolutely in keeping with his nature. He is treacherous and double crossing, but at the same time apologetic. He tends to change his allegiance at the drop of the hat ('Unakku Kothaladevan'a tharen' during the riot). So, when he says 'Enna paarkura, naame ellarume karuvidhaan', he is being apologetic, as if trying to explain that he was just carrying out some one else's orders. Who knows when he will require Virumaandi's help again (which he does)!! I think Peykaaman-like characters are recurring in Kamal's movies. Think Govardhan in 'Hey Ram' and Hanifa in 'Mahanadi'. These characters also tend to be disgusting, with obvious references to their pimp like qualities. Kamal's tussle with these characters are secondary, but nonetheless important (beautifully implied in 'Viru.. virumaandi' song through the lines 'Peykaamanai adakki vaitha Virumaandi') |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Aug 31 3:43:03 2007. |
From: kannannn on Mon Sep 3 8:28:31 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
He was also probably reiterating Kondarasu's line "Kothalathevarukku aripedutha sorinjikka payanpaduthara karuvi nee" which he says in the Panchayat. Maybe that explains the catch phrase "nAma ellArumE". Interesting he says this in the presence of others, including Rohini. A veiled statement indicating "we both know, but you are also like me"? |
From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Sep 3 10:09:51 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
BTW, was live dubbing used in Virumandi? Most scenes in prison seemed to have live dubbing. Wonder if that was on purpose, considering that steady cam was also used extensively for those scenes. Perhaps, a documentary effect was intended (just as Rohini would see them)..?! |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 5:59:06 2007. |
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My kind of films mature and I've already sold the wine. Somebody else matures that drink, not me. I lose. |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 6:03:46 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||
http://indianmovies-gossip.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2007-08-28T02%3A18%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=2
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From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 6:19:03 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||
http://indianmovies-gossip.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2007-08-28T02%3A18%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=2
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 7:00:20 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
*uck! What an interview ![]() ![]() |
From: great on Tue Sep 4 9:06:04 2007. |
From: Roshan on Tue Sep 4 9:25:54 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Tue Sep 4 10:09:48 2007. |
From: joe on Tue Sep 4 10:54:56 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
Kamal as usual rocked ![]() |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 13:27:46 2007. |
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Thalaivar's Dancing Skills - I
Amongst his many talents, Thalaivar's prowess in dancing has earned him a good chunk of fan following over the years. His skills in dancing has ranged from the sublime to street level. He has been the undisputed King of Dancing in Indian film history for over 25 years. There has been many challengers (pretenders) over the years from tamil to telugu to hindi movies but one after the other has fallen by the wayside and slipped into oblivion. But Thalaivar has continued to rule the roost. Here is a brief overview of some of his dance performances that has been showcased over the past 3 decades - • Nizhal Nijamagirathu - There is a bharata natyam sequence which really kick started his whole dance journey. He really pulls off the bharata natyam steps with such ease while clad only in his pants, it is just unbelievable • Ek Duuje Ke Liye – His ‘siva thandavam’ dancing in this movie was a classic • Simla Special – He does the puppet movements which looks like a pre-cursor to break dancing in the ‘Unakenna Mela Nindraan’ song. He repeats the puppet movement to a limited extent in the ‘Ilamai Itho Itho’ song in Sakalakalavallavan • Vaazhve Maayam – In the song ‘Mazhai Kala Megam Ondru’, he does the ‘charleston’ steps so elegantly • Moondram Pirai – Dressed in what appears to be tribal attire, Thalaivar really pulls out some special stuff in slow paced movements • Sanam Teri Kasam – The bhangra dancing at the transgender wedding was a big highlight of this movie. Even Punjabi’s cannot dance the bhangra with the silken grace that Thalaivar displays • Sakalakalavallavan – There is a sequence in the ‘Ilamai Itho Itho’ song where he goes back and forth wearing roller blades. This was incredible coupled with his expression while doing that • Salangai Oli – What can one say about this movie and the dance sequences! There is no other actor in the world that can do this movie EVER. He practically re-defined classical dances that appears in movies • Thoongathey Thambi Thoongathey – This movie had several stand out steps – o His dancing and facial expressions in the song ‘Varudu Varudu’ is worth millions. He transforms this local song to a classic level purely with his facial expressions while maintaining fast paced movements o There is a sequence where the Vinod character clad in the famous red color robe is shown dancing with the girls to music from a stereo. Thalaivar shows them how to dance to the beat and does a clapping routine that was stunning • Kakki Chattai – This movie featured Thalaivar in many great dance sequences, one stand out was in the song ‘Singari Sarakku’ where towards the end of the song he shakes his hips while being on one knee. Gives me goose pimples till date • Saagar – He absolutely destroys Rishi Kapoor (hyped by the Hindi film industry as a very good dancer) in the song ‘Yun Hi Gate Rahoo’. Thalaivar shows the world is skills at break dancing • Vikram – Again, this movie had many great sequences but the one step that stands out is where he jumps up and kicks his feet together in the title song. This step was repeated in many of his latter movies but it started here • Aboorva Sagotharargal – In the song ‘Anathey Aadurar’ he once again showed the world that there is no actor that can hold a candle to Thalaivar when it comes to dancing for dappan kuthu songs • Vetri Vizha – He destroys Prabhu who is another over-hyped dancer/actor in the song ‘Vaanam enna’ • Devar Magan – The dance sequence at his introduction was outstanding and very cleverly placed in a serious movie. His facial expressions in that sequence is worth millions • Kaadhala Kaadhala – He shows his superiority over a much acclaimed dancer like Prabhu Deva that “class will always win” in the song ‘Kaasu mela’. Again there is none to match his skills in dancing for songs of that genre • Thenali – His dancing in the song ‘Oh Jaaye’ simply shows that this man does not age at all. How can anyone continue to pull one performance after another for such a long time! It is just incredible that someone can stay on top of their skills and show tremendous scope and variety over such a long period. This in an industry where the dance wonders last only 2 or 3 years at the most. He is like an 'akshaya paathiram' churning out such extraordinary performances without any let up. There has never been anyone like Kamal Haasan before and I am positive that there will never been anyone like Kamal Haasan in the future as well. If the statement seems outrageous to some, then I only ask them to watch the sequences listed in my earlier posts. This is not the most exhaustive list but it suffice to show the Great One's skill. One is left wondering, how can someone develop such a repertoire in one field alone while also staying on top of his profession in various other fields as well! It is only possible by the one and only Kamal Haasan! cheers kannan |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 13:35:49 2007. |
From: kannannn on Tue Sep 4 14:42:22 2007. |
From: Roshan on Tue Sep 4 14:48:01 2007. |
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About this closet direction, no. Mine was a glass case. Everyone knew. |
From: NOV on Tue Sep 4 20:18:42 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
• Kaadhala Kaadhala – He shows his superiority over a much acclaimed dancer like Prabhu Deva that “class will always win” in the song ‘Kaasu mela’. Again there is none to match his skills in dancing for songs of that genre
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 22:50:18 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
[tscii]at best Kamal works hard to dance, he is no born dancer. for that at least, we must give him credit. ![]() |
From: Nerd on Tue Sep 4 23:19:45 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
prabudeva is known for stylish fast paced movements but kamal had come a full round.starting from classic, to mike mohan type to kuthu songs |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 23:30:11 2007. |
Nerd wrote: |
kAdhalan-la classical dance pAthadhillEyA. Comparing KH and prabudeva when it comes to dance is blasphemic ![]() ![]() |
From: joe on Tue Sep 4 23:31:32 2007. |
Nerd wrote: |
kAdhalan-la classical dance pAthadhillEyA. Comparing KH and prabudeva when it comes to dance is blasphemic ![]() ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 23:31:53 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
As the scene progresses, the mirror becomes an important part, dividing the true image of Kamal and the false images of Kothalan and co. |
kannannn wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1rExTCRneI (He is THE BEST director around.. PERIOD) |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 4 23:32:47 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
On another note, I just uploaded the scene from Virumaandi, where Peykaaman brings the murder witness to Kothalan's house. The scene starts with Kothalan trimming his nostril hair in the mirror and Annalatchumi barging in and picking a fight with Kamal. As the scene progresses, the mirror becomes an important part, dividing the true image of Kamal and the false images of Kothalan and co. Also, notice how the villagers in the background nod in understanding when Peykaaman asks the witness to come inside the house. So, it is a open secret in the village that everyone and everything is manipulated in the case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1rExTCRneI (He is THE BEST director around.. PERIOD) |
From: Nerd on Tue Sep 4 23:34:09 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||
Comparing Salangai Oli dance and Kathalan dance is also blasphmic ![]() |
From: MADDY on Tue Sep 4 23:34:28 2007. |
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Part I of a two-part interview by S Shiva Kumar:
Mediocrity has been the standard and the easiest thing to achieve. To rise above mediocrity is about the best thing for any man who seeks excellence. But I am not even rising above mediocrity. I am mediocre and have kept myself that way." Aren't you being too modest? No, I'm not. I am mediocre because that is my audience. It is not that I am generalising. The daily collection report says that my general audience is mediocre. The minorities who talk as cleverly as I do don't matter because they can have a private conversation with me. Talking about a mediocre audience, do you call them so because they don't seem to like what you do? It's not that. It's the general attitude to look at the human. Vendors are now deciding what the editorial will be in a newspaper. The downfall is not the people. When the vendor decides, then the newspaper is gone. So who calls the shots in the film industry? The middleman, always. When they call the shots, that's the end of the film. Even where a Kamal Hassan is concerned? Everybody. I am talking about the whole industry. From the time the studios and their distribution network failed, the middlemen emerged. They have nothing to lose. |
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I am worried when people don't appreciate work. But the minority has been so kind to me. That's why I won't insult them. As a matter of fact, my survival comes from the minority, who go around like propagandists telling others how good my films are. But the purpose is not served. |
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So what are you trying to do? Raise the audience's taste?
No, no. Just trying to walk the tightrope and hope for applause. |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 23:35:12 2007. |
joe wrote: | ||
Comparing Salangai Oli dance and Kathalan dance is also blasphmic ![]() |
From: joe on Tue Sep 4 23:39:44 2007. |
Nerd wrote: | ||||
innoru muRai thayavu seithu kAthalan padaththil andha CLASSICAL dance-ai pArkkavum. I was not talking about the unimitable, unmatchable oorvasi dance. Wait a min, what am I doing now?? Trying to substantiate that PD dances better than KH??????? Shame on me ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 23:45:10 2007. |
MADDY wrote: |
very very complex views, atleast for me ![]() ![]() partly wrong - bcos it is the same audience who accepted Nayagan, PV, sethu ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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The downfall is not the people |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 23:46:57 2007. |
Nerd wrote: |
innoru muRai thayavu seithu kAthalan padaththil andha CLASSICAL dance-ai pArkkavum. I was not talking about the unimitable, unmatchable oorvasi dance. Wait a min, what am I doing now?? Trying to substantiate that PD dances better than KH??????? Shame on me ![]() |
joe wrote: |
I know the classical dance in kathalan you are refering ..It is nowhere near kamal's salangai oli dance ..Nobody denies PD is best in dance ..He is extrodinary in speed and different steps ..but Still ,kamal is best in elegance in dance ..My most favois kamal's dance in punnahai mannan for the theme music. |
From: joe on Tue Sep 4 23:55:39 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 4 23:59:03 2007. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 0:03:14 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Joe,
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Sep 5 0:06:11 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 5 0:06:54 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Yeah ![]() ![]() |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 0:08:59 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
PD does an excellent steps and he tries to draw something on floor. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 0:11:34 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
<Dig> Did you get Andha Naal in Mustafa? (If not, out of stock or not available at all?) </Dig> |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 5 0:13:31 2007. |
joe wrote: |
//dig Not available ..but a friend sending me from india ![]() //dig |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 0:36:35 2007. |
From: Thirumaran on Wed Sep 5 2:12:53 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
All I want to say is Kamal as a fantastic dancer is a myth. ![]() What is dance? Dance = Grace and that's where he is lacking. You dont see fluidity be it classical or contemporary dancing. What you see instead are exaggerated movements. But the man tries. And tries hard. For that alone, he should be congratulated. |
From: breadpuli on Wed Sep 5 2:49:39 2007. |
joe wrote: |
I know the classical dance in kathalan you are refering ..It is nowhere near kamal's salangai oli dance ..Nobody denies PD is best in dance ..He is extrodinary in speed and different steps ..but Still ,kamal is best in elegance in dance ..My most favois kamal's dance in punnahai mannan for the theme music. |
From: breadpuli on Wed Sep 5 3:00:16 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
All I want to say is Kamal as a fantastic dancer is a myth. ![]() |
From: Roshan on Wed Sep 5 3:01:56 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: | ||
Could not accept this. I consider u are comparing his dance in the past few years. As of now he dont have much interest in dancing around kind of things. That particular thing you can definitely notice and also he is aged. After 40 + you cant expect the same he was in the earlier days. There are lots of songs to list. No need for listing. I had come across some Choreographers(Raghuram, Sundaram, Kala, etc) and the Lady stars acted with Kamal and other from Radha, Ambika, Radhika,Silk Smita, etc.. etc.. those all who said as per them Kamal is the best and also it is quite difficult to match him while dancing. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 3:11:40 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
Dance = Grace and that's where he is lacking.. |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 3:45:27 2007. |
Thirumaran wrote: |
I consider u are comparing his dance in the past few years. |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 3:48:05 2007. |
breadpuli wrote: |
So though Kamal is a pathetic dancer, we get a feel that he only is doing the dances. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 3:49:47 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
![]() as a person who is determined to excel in everything he does, he also works hard at dancing - it doesnt come naturally to him. ![]() |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 3:50:39 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Grace is where he is leading compare to others,IMO. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 3:51:31 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
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From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 3:52:43 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Vitta kamal-kku nadippu natural-a varalla ,but trying hard-nnu sollveenga pola ![]() |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 3:53:50 2007. |
joe wrote: |
Not at all. ![]() |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 3:54:46 2007. |
NOV wrote: | ||
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From: sriranga on Wed Sep 5 4:07:59 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: | ||
I have become a messenger who ports the Orkut Kamal fan mesages to forumhub! but still cant stop copying good posts like the one below..
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From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Sep 5 4:29:16 2007. |
From: Roshan on Wed Sep 5 5:10:21 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
One of the most natural dancers to 'grace' the Tamil screen. |
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In fact in later films like Kadhala Kadhala he is able to hold his own in the company of a more talented dancer like Prabhu Deva, simply because he has that grace in his dance that Prabhudeva lacks. |
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Have a look at rum-bum-bum from MMKR. Not a very demanding dance.In on of the sequences (where he is wearing a big hat), Kushboo and Kamal have the same steps. Kushboo (never a big - no pun intended- dancer) is 'correct' in her steps, that is all. OTOH Kamal is absolutely graceful. |
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The only criticism I have is his expressions when he dances are exaggerated and he is never casually dancing. One can notice this in movies like Nammavar, where he dances 'casually' many times but the way his mouth is set and his expressions are, look very conscious. Anything but casual. Maybe it is the classical training, where it is important for the face to be highly expressive. |
From: joe on Wed Sep 5 5:10:48 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 5 5:56:48 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
Thiru, Sila appattamAna, theLivAna, uNmaiyAna vishayangaLukku viLakkam kodukka muyaRchippathE 'blasphemy' thAn ![]() ![]() |
From: groucho070 on Wed Sep 5 5:59:01 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 5 6:05:36 2007. |
groucho070 wrote: |
The best dancer of now, as I see it, is Prabhu Deva. But he lacks the grace that Kamal has. |
groucho070 wrote: |
I have a lady friend, a Baratha Natyam dancer, who agrees that he is good, Baratha Natyam or not. |
From: omega on Wed Sep 5 7:53:38 2007. |
From: Devar Magan on Wed Sep 5 7:59:16 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
I dont want to compare PD with Kamal especially in classical dance. ![]() PD and classical dance, to me is blasephmy ![]() All I want to say is Kamal as a fantastic dancer is a myth. ![]() What is dance? Dance = Grace and that's where he is lacking. You dont see fluidity be it classical or contemporary dancing. What you see instead are exaggerated movements. But the man tries. And tries hard. For that alone, he should be congratulated. Having said all these, I do not consider "dancing" as a part of "acting." So, we cannot and should not judge an actor on his dancing skills. |
From: Devar Magan on Wed Sep 5 8:03:00 2007. |
From: raaja_rasigan on Wed Sep 5 12:50:42 2007. |
Devar Magan wrote: |
i dont know, which grace, our NOV is talking abt.. |
From: breadpuli on Wed Sep 5 12:50:59 2007. |
Devar Magan wrote: |
joe,
i also love that theme music in punnagai mannan.. end credits poduum, pothu oru bit varum paarunga... the music and dance will be in 100% sync.. i cant express that feeling in words.. |
From: NOV on Wed Sep 5 20:26:06 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Thu Sep 6 0:08:02 2007. |
From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Sep 6 0:13:46 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
The only criticism I have is his expressions when he dances are exaggerated and he is never casually dancing. One can notice this in movies like Nammavar, where he dances 'casually' many times but the way his mouth is set and his expressions are, look very conscious. Anything but casual. Maybe it is the classical training, where it is important for the face to be highly expressive. |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Sep 6 1:42:42 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZw9C1NG7vg&mode=related&search=
Virumaandi special ........ This one has my favourite aruvaal scene ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Sep 6 2:04:08 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
On another note, I just uploaded the scene from Virumaandi, where Peykaaman brings the murder witness to Kothalan's house. The scene starts with Kothalan trimming his nostril hair in the mirror and Annalatchumi barging in and picking a fight with Kamal. As the scene progresses, the mirror becomes an important part, dividing the true image of Kamal and the false images of Kothalan and co. Also, notice how the villagers in the background nod in understanding when Peykaaman asks the witness to come inside the house. So, it is a open secret in the village that everyone and everything is manipulated in the case. |
kannannn wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1rExTCRneI (He is THE BEST director around.. PERIOD) |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Sep 6 2:07:50 2007. |
From: Roshan on Thu Sep 6 2:10:59 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
PR,
neenga "wish" panninadhu nadakka vaippu irukku.. Thalaivar Raajkamal "file"-a thoosu thatta arambichirukkaradha seidhigal/vathanthigal varudhu.. ![]() |
From: joe on Thu Sep 6 2:18:18 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
PR,
neenga "wish" panninadhu nadakka vaippu irukku.. Thalaivar Raajkamal "file"-a thoosu thatta arambichirukkaradha seidhigal/vathanthigal varudhu.. ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Sep 6 2:18:39 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
PR, neenga "wish" panninadhu nadakka vaippu irukku..
Thalaivar Raajkamal "file"-a thoosu thatta arambichirukkaradha seidhigal/vathanthigal varudhu.. ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Sep 6 2:25:08 2007. |
joe wrote: |
PR enna wish panninaaru? Konjam viLakkama sollapadatha ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Sep 6 2:30:51 2007. |
From: joe on Thu Sep 6 2:33:40 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 6 3:31:19 2007. |
From: great on Thu Sep 6 11:41:04 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Thu Sep 6 11:53:36 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
Feddy, You mean the "ennaya vetna aruva.. un peru potta aruva.. padhil sollu" scene or the limb chopping fight scene? rendume super scenes but the former was one of my favorites even before the release, when they showed the shooting of this scene in Sun TV ![]() |
From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Sep 6 13:33:45 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: | ||||
Multiple chopping scenes ![]() ![]()
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 6 14:08:42 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 6 14:13:29 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
..........the slipper is thrown up....now it doesn's falls and hits on kothalan, instead it falls [into] the next following scene itself... |
From: ajithfederer on Thu Sep 6 14:49:29 2007. |
littlemaster1982 wrote: | ||||||
It's my favorite too ![]() |
From: ajithfederer on Sun Sep 9 6:59:00 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Sep 9 13:04:19 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZFyi8TLJU&NR=1 ![]() |
From: Kumar on Mon Sep 10 2:16:10 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
SRK ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: Roshan on Mon Sep 10 3:06:02 2007. |
Kumar wrote: | ||||
Yes, PR. Funny how SRK thinks his role is a cameo (Dude! Cameo is what Kamal did in Thillu mullu, or Magalir Mattum.) Is this an indication that some actors think that if you are not the 'hero' of the movie, then whatever part you play is a cameo? As for Rani M and Vasundhra Das, I hope somewhere down the line, they'll realise that the roles they played in this movie are 2 of the strongest women's roles in recent Indian cinema. Sure, they may be more comfortable with their Shakalakas and glamourous Swiss filmed solos, but I hope that sometime in the future, they'll mention Hey Ram as an important film in their acting careers. |
From: thilak4life on Mon Sep 10 3:13:07 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Mon Sep 10 3:26:02 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Sep 10 3:27:03 2007. |
From: equanimus on Mon Sep 10 4:14:31 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
SRK ![]() ![]() |
From: Kumar on Mon Sep 10 20:53:00 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||||||
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From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 11 6:14:04 2007. |
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Kamal Haasan is the boldest actor in Indian film industry. One particular aspect of this boldness is revealed in the role of women in his movies. Most movies in India try to show women in black and white and not in complex characterisation. Kamal's movies, perhaps deliberately, involves complex women. Thus Kamal has played a variety of roles in which his relations, women have chequered lives. Thus, if Saranya is married despite being from a brothel in Nayagan, Kamal's mother in Gunaa, his daughter in Mahanadhi and his sister in Arangetram are forced into the world's oldest business for tragic reasons. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 11 6:34:46 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
A post by someone called Salvador in Orkut Aandvara community:
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Sep 11 6:59:04 2007. |
From: Roshan on Tue Sep 11 8:29:18 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
Arangetram - his sister
Moonram Pirai - he loves sridevi[you left this!] Nayagan - his wife Mahanathi - his daughter Guna - his mother[runs]& Rosy [does] For mahanathi, he went to Sonaa Kaachi, and shot there in realty, it was not sets. he even had a small dinner with the girls there, as said by him. he always has a sad respect[sympathy??] on those womens. great human |
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Sep 11 9:20:20 2007. |
From: ajithfederer on Tue Sep 11 21:19:37 2007. |
From: ThalaNass on Tue Sep 11 21:31:38 2007. |
ajithfederer wrote: |
My search got over ![]() ![]() ![]() http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1071016032818544779&q=aboorva&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5 |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 3:04:50 2007. |
From: Kumar on Wed Sep 12 3:38:12 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Is is just Kamal's trademark potshot at religion ? Maybe, but it is a whole lot more too. Religion is just a way the old woman seeking solace. She is not in the least disturbed at that moment by the mismatch between her piety and her 'immoral' trade. Is it perhaps because the immorality is itself the viewer's opinion ? Of course she is dissed with her lot. On at least on occassion she blames her deserter husband, son and fate. But her resignation is so strong that she is completely inured. The viewer is in no position to evaluate if the resignation itself is something to be empathized with. Because the tragic nature of the resignation just whacks the viewer in the head in that small (3-5 second sequence). Watch and get overwhelmed, think later because he just messes your judgement at the time of viewing and gets you to feel for the characters. What a master film maker ![]() |
From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Sep 12 3:41:16 2007. |
Kumar wrote: |
Great observation PR.
And this is where I think Kamal stands out from the crowd; his characters are not merely black or white, or straight forward. I like the fact that he creates a history for his characters, even if they appear for a short while. It makes them more believable and the audience can relate to them or aspects of their behaviour. And to boot, characters who may be stereotyped elsewhere are ' humanised' (Guna's mum), and like you said, he "messes with your judgement". And continuing on the subject of women, a few people I know were shocked at Annalaskhmi's death and the violence meted out on her by her own kin in Virumaandi. Some viewers saw this as an insult to women; but I thought that scene culminates everything that can go wrong in an overly male dominant society, and in this case, household. This IS abuse, and this scene is meant to make us squirm in our seats. It IS meant to make us feel uncomfortable. It IS meant to shock us. And it IS meant to knock some sense into our heads. To be honest, I am quite thankful that Kamal made this scene, and Annalakshmi's suicide, as graphic as he did. It's a far cry from movies which portray abuse against women as normal, or even worse, comedic. (I really detest scenes when the hero slaps the heroine for some reason, but because she is head over heals in love with him, she keeps thinking about the slap as a romantic gesture and this leads to a dream duet scene. I also have a bone to pick with Bala for a scene in Pithamagan when Laila gets repeatedly slapped by her male relative, and this is made to look like a comedy scene. I'm not happy, Bala ![]() And to those naysayers who said that Virumaandi was 'too violent', I wish to say this: PONGGADA!!!! 9.5 out of 10 Tamil movies have fights. 80% of these fights are unnecessary and are usually done for claps and whistles. We have been so de-sensitised to violence because it's been portrayed as heroic, stylish, funny, cool, etc. OK, go ahead and enjoy these fight scenes; but when violence is portrayed as it is, don't go all moralistic and call a movie like Virumaandi unnecessarily violent. |
From: thilak4life on Wed Sep 12 5:17:24 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
And I thought I made a profound point bringing in that piece of dialogue from MMKR!
Jokes apart, on "Guna," I think it is a severely underrated film and very even (for the lack of a better word) in terms of the morality that's depicted in it, more even than many of Kamal's classics. The film can't just be viewed as a "good vs. evil" story in any sense, even though one has often encountered praise for the film for its depiction of the "pure love" of Guna and so on. The protagonist here is simply a madman (or God, depends on the way you see him) while all those around him are mere mortals, not at all beyond "corruption" or "sins," and most of them use him for various purposes. The characterization of JK (Sharad Saxena) borders on being one-dimensionally "evil" though, but again SPB makes a "fair case" (!) for him too when discussing the temple-theft-cum-kidnap case with his colleague. At the same time, it is also never apologetic about any of Guna's deeds. The man is mad, it makes no fuss of it. He abets his uncle in a temple theft when effectively persuaded to do so, he kills a policeman by mistake and shows no remorse whatsoever. There's simply no moral to take home, so to say. I also differ from many others who dismiss Kamal's performance here as over the top. To deem it as over-the-top is to simply overlook the wonderfully understated moments. The closest similar example I can give is Vikram's performance in "Pithamagan" (even though, in comparision, the latter performance falls short in terms of spontaneity and nuances). That performance is criticized for its over-the-top-ness too, but one has only to see those moments -- the way Siththan stares out of the train window trying to catch the view from one end to another, or the way he is miffed when everyone laughs at him when he is made to "aavi-pidichufy" and he forces himself out of the blanket. Okay, both these moments are from the song "Ilangaathu Veesudhe," which only shows my love for the picturisation of this song, the way it conveys a range of emotions of the various characters in the film. One of the best song-picturisations of this decade. Pardon the digression. P.S.:- This is, of course, not to say that a film like "Mahanadhi" which does have "some morals to take home" is inferior. In fact, "Mahanadhi" as a film is superior in my books (and possibly my single favourite Tamil film). |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 5:33:18 2007. |
From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 5:39:31 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Thanks, Thilak. Tell me if the reference to MMKR was "profound" or not, now. ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Wed Sep 12 5:50:28 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Thanks, Thilak. Tell me if the reference to MMKR was "profound" or not, now. ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Wed Sep 12 5:54:24 2007. |
selvakumar wrote: | ||
Idhu aetho oru "Koottu Sathi" maari theriyuthae ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 6:26:12 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Sep 12 7:12:05 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Ayyo, iruvaththanjaa? Dha... PattaaNi, namma reNdu perum bhai-bhai-i, brothers-u. Aaraayira rooba dhaan vaanginen, nadagam...
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From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 7:49:38 2007. |
Kumar wrote: |
I really detest scenes when the hero slaps the heroine for some reason, but because she is head over heals in love with him, she keeps thinking about the slap as a romantic gesture and this leads to a dream duet scene. |
Kumar wrote: |
I also have a bone to pick with Bala for a scene in Pithamagan when Laila gets repeatedly slapped by her male relative, and this is made to look like a comedy scene. I'm not happy, Bala ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 12 8:07:35 2007. |
From: selvakumar on Wed Sep 12 8:22:42 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Welcome equanimus ![]() Attam sUdu pidikkidhu ![]() Superb posts Kumar/PR/Equanimus ![]() |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 9:00:13 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
![]() tIk hai aarAyira rooba ippo tharAn..unnees aayiram appuram tharAn. unneesA ? arrE..pathambOdhAyiram oh ! hindi... ![]() ![]() |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
Disagree with the point about thePithamagan scene you mention. In the jail, when Laila and her father visit Surya, her father keeps hitting her. She is least bit perturbed. Now before this is interpreted as resignation, she retorts with the "loosAppA nee", which is becoming a household catchphrase. She is far far far from 'oppressed'. And even if you charge him with making "light work" of domestic violence, this was a very true depiction: showing it "as is" including the humour. |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 12 12:25:26 2007. |
From: Kumar on Thu Sep 13 3:44:16 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
If Guna is mentioned, can Kumar be far away and if Kumar is here, can Virumaandi be far away ![]() |
Quote: |
She is least bit perturbed. Now before this is interpreted as resignation, she retorts with the "loosAppA nee", which is becoming a household catchphrase. She is far far far from 'oppressed'.
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equanimus wrote: |
Kumar, This is entirely an aside note, I definitely concur with you about the way these kind of scenes are generally conceived. But, the insensitive usage of this very same situation over many, many films only shows that it's a huge cliché, and that it's depicted in a listlessly one-dimensional (and fake) manner in those films; not that it's a fake "feeling" (such a corny word to use, I agree!) or emotion as such. |
From: Kumar on Thu Sep 13 4:15:42 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
At the same time, it is also never apologetic about any of Guna's deeds. The man is mad, it makes no fuss of it. He abets his uncle in a temple theft when effectively persuaded to do so, he kills a policeman by mistake and shows no remorse whatsoever. There's simply no moral to take home, so to say. |
From: equanimus on Thu Sep 13 4:59:37 2007. |
Kumar wrote: | ||
Yes, it is a huge cliche indeed. Pure fantasy if you like. Sometimes I do have to remind myself that the bulk of cinema patrons watch films to escape reality. I suppose these 'slap/love' scenes may just be the musings of some writer with an inflated ego (I'm soooooo hot that even when I slap a woman, she'll still fall for me.) Hmmm, there I go again with my grousing.....must be getting old ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Thu Sep 13 5:36:30 2007. |
Quote: |
On a not-so-unrelated note, the juxtaposition of scenes from Anandan-Pushpa's marriage life and Thamizhchelvan-Maragadham's marriage life in Iruvar with Maragadham brings out a similar kind of irony beautifully. |
From: Kumar on Thu Sep 13 6:25:10 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
And, in any case, the supposedly "normal" love stories in Tamil cinema have always bordered towards the "obsessional," in general. |
Quote: |
If one tries to have an overall perspective in matters like gender inequality etc. in a real context, all the idealistic positions will only alienate us from truth. |
From: Kumar on Thu Sep 13 6:38:51 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
I thought "Virumandi" has that scene when Abhirami drops a water-filled pot on Sandiyar, she picks up a fight, one has to look at the way Kamal reacts back like a typical rural boor, and She always tries to respond back like a typical rural woman. No glossy touches.. I thought it was perfectly done.. |
From: equanimus on Thu Sep 13 7:39:39 2007. |
Kumar wrote: | ||
Tell me about it. ![]() |
thilak4life wrote: |
I thought "Virumandi" has that scene when Abhirami drops a water-filled pot on Sandiyar, she picks up a fight, one has to look at the way Kamal reacts back like a typical rural boor, and She always tries to respond back like a typical rural woman. No glossy touches.. I thought it was perfectly done.. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 13 14:03:12 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Thu Sep 13 14:11:37 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 13 14:31:42 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Thu Sep 13 14:35:48 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 13 14:46:14 2007. |
From: Kumar on Thu Sep 13 19:17:55 2007. |
equanimus wrote: | ||||
I don't quite get what you mean. Is it the so-called 'normal' love stories that makes you roll your eyes or my statement about them? ![]() I was saying that the love stories we see in Tamil films border towards the "obsessional." Both the hero and heroine simply refuse to think beyond each other. If it's oru thalai kaadhal (as the case is with the 'slap/love' scenario), invariably the kaaadhalar would go to unthinkable extents to just make the other person realise his/her love for her/him. And, all along, things like self-esteem and pragmatism won't even figure in the scheme of things. For the last time, pardon the digression. . |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Sep 14 1:30:20 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
On that note, I categorically desist the common notion of MMKR as "nice, family comedy..............Of course, it doesn't overtly play out as a comedy that dwells with the unspeakable, but then, it hardly conforms to any restrictive or bourgeois "standards. |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 4:17:14 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Lovely posts Kumar and equanimus.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Sep 14 4:22:32 2007. |
From: thilak4life on Fri Sep 14 4:45:54 2007. |
From: joe on Fri Sep 14 4:55:15 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
Kamal padatha paarthu valarndha balaginamana koottam! .. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 4:59:51 2007. |
From: cancer on Fri Sep 14 5:06:26 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
<Dig> P.S: Aandavar's interview at Sun TV tomorrow (is it 8 AM Singapore time, Joe?). And is it the same intree that Kalaignar TV is telecasting? ![]() </Dig> |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 5:09:33 2007. |
From: cancer on Fri Sep 14 5:11:42 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Cancer,
![]() adhAvadhu, eppadi message-a edit paNrEnnu mattum pArungO ![]() |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Sep 14 7:47:28 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
When Kameshwaran asks him if it's fine to do it, he even goes on to say, "aey, nee eththana cinema paathirukkAi!" |
equanimus wrote: |
I can go on and on.... |
equanimus wrote: |
but then, another favourite character of mine would cut me short and say, comedy-nna anubavikkaNum, ArAya koodAdhu! |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 8:03:52 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
Kamal padatha paarthu valarndha balaginamana koottam! Welcome to the club! |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 8:08:29 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Trivia question: How does Nagesh come to know of Kameshwaran? Answer: Only because Varadhukkutti who always has it going with his kashkam, lifts his hand to scratch it at the right time! |
From: Roshan on Fri Sep 14 8:10:27 2007. |
cancer wrote: | ||
athu eppadinga same interview aa irukka mudium.. ![]() rendu perum thani thani business panna venangalaaa??? |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 8:10:47 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
BTW, MMKR's greatness is lost in Translation in other languages (watched it in telugu, and thought it missed a chunk of Crazy-Kamal's magic). But it still manages to impress. That speaks about the structure and the narrative. Probably the best comedy film, and my favorite too.. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 8:13:30 2007. |
Roshan wrote: |
Bala, I think that is an old interview with Vijay Saradhi. Not a worthy one ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 8:26:40 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
This is a belief which many hold now, but I don't, not as much. More one sees MMKR, more one would realise that it's not Crazy Mohan's pen that made it what it is. On the other hand, I think Singeetam's contribution is painfully underrated. |
equanimus wrote: |
He is one of my favourite directors and just for Pushpak, Aboorva Sagodharargal and MMKR, he is right up there among the best. There is something funny even in his frames. The craft is oustanding. Not in every Crazy-Kamal comedy does one get to see even blink-and-you-will-miss characters making a mark for themselves. Like the watchman who comes for a moment in the "comedy track" of Aboorva Sagodharargal. ("Neenga pudinga, naa saaptuttu irukkenla!" ![]() |
equanimus wrote: |
Crazy Mohan's dialogue, on the other hand, is all about verbal humour which fits him perfectly fine in his stage plays. In those plays, there's no greater inherent design to accommodates all the humour that is in there. In fact, in most cases, there are only two disparate things -- the lines that drive the plot and the lines that are funny. This is why his humour doesn't work that well in films. If one lets him write for screen, it simply goes haywire (with due respects, I might even drop a tear or two, as I say this!). ThEdinEn Vandhadhu or Jery anyone? They have some brilliant lines too. Like a twisted version of a pazhamozhi in the latter: "nAlai nadappadhu Nana Patekar seyal!" ![]() If one compares MMKR with other Crazy-Kamal comedies like Kaadhalaa Kaadhalaa, one'll find that the humour in the dialogue of the former seldom comes from its words as such, where as, the latter is all about the words. While the former has only very few trademark Crazy Mohan lines -- like "Thiruppi vechAlum, nimirthu vechAlum thiruttu thiruttu dhAn, theriyumA?" "Appan kudhirukkulla illai 'nnu appantayE sollindu irukkAi nee" -- the latter is simply Crazy Mohan's show. I'd positively say that the funniest lines of MMKR wouldn't have come from Crazy Mohan's pen at all. Just take the standout sequence (in a film that's so full of standout sequences!) that ensues when Raju comes to Madan Mahal for the first time with Shalini ("Thannila nenchi paakanume!" ![]() This is virtually a showdown of two comedic stalwarts, Nagesh and Kamal Haasan. Every single line is an absolute cracker here, but none of it bears the 'Crazy' Mohan stamp. |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 9:19:59 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
But many times the set-up is too incredible and contrived (like how would this not occure to him, etc.) But this scene is spotlesss. KamEswaran says: "..avaLaiyum koottindu ...(talking softly) pEsAme bengAloor pOyittu varalAngriyA. (Had Mani Iyer heard this, the joke is over) When the Mani Iyer doesn't understand the reference to nAdoDi mannan, Kameswaran explains: "adhula ippidi varumE"....sshowing with the hands the interchange. The door is pretty much everything in that scene. Perhaps why the scene begins (pAtti and avinashi entering into it - must see the look on the unsuspecting K's face ![]() ![]() |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 9:40:13 2007. |
crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
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crajkumar_be wrote: |
To add one more scene: The bald sidekick to Nagesh signalling to the group of men with his thundu to "attack" Raaja just before the fight scene. You are dead right that there is some trademark SSR humor in all his films - Pushpak, MMKR, AS and even MX ![]() |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 14 9:45:54 2007. |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 9:59:33 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
I am a HUGE fan of Crazy Mohan. I grew up with Kamal Haasan, 'Crazy' Mohan and MMKR, and used to feel smug about knowing that Crazy Mohan was a significant man (if not the most significant) behind the film, when most of the junta didn't even know about 'Crazy' Mohan. This is a belief which many hold now, but I don't, not as much. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Sep 14 10:07:43 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Trivia question: How does Nagesh come to know of Kameshwaran?
Answer: Only because Varadhukkutti who always has it going with his kashkam, lifts his hand to scratch it at the right time! |
equanimus wrote: |
Just take the standout sequence (in a film that's so full of standout sequences!) that ensues when Raju comes to Madan Mahal for the first time with Shalini |
equanimus wrote: |
"Thannila nenchi paakanume!" ROTFL |
crajkumar_be wrote: |
Equanimus,
I'm getting tired of saying this Twisted Evil Fantastic post! Not Worthy |
From: kannannn on Fri Sep 14 10:16:16 2007. |
From: kannannn on Fri Sep 14 10:32:36 2007. |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 11:04:59 2007. |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 11:08:54 2007. |
kannannn wrote: |
Just to add: that MMKR drips of trademark Kamal-Singeetham touches can be seen as early as during the credits. As the lines "vanjagar kangalil mannayum thoovi.." play out in the background, we have Kamal's mother (I keep forgetting her name..) literally throw sand into the eyes of her pursuers. What genius..!! |
From: equanimus on Fri Sep 14 11:36:31 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
neenga inga vElai paakkureengaLA ? ellAm unga dhayavula ![]() ............... Raju: like like same same... 'daddy' Sivaram: (having achieved interruption of the moment, makes polite convesation) own house-A ![]() ![]() ............... The cherry is mentioning reference to AnbE Vaa to Nagesh himself ! sari unnAnda solli inna panradhu.... |
From: bingleguy on Fri Sep 14 14:10:58 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Fri Sep 14 21:03:58 2007. |
From: Kumar on Fri Sep 14 22:18:59 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Request-laam periya vaarthai, Bala... but anyway, ennoda thoughts on PKS.
Sufficient warnings first: I am big fan of PKS, the character; and intend to start a cult following for him in the future when the necessary faculties are at my disposal. |
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The flow of sequences in PKS to begin with. The humour is so spontaneous, natural and entirely driven by the situation. I think Mouli should take a fair share of credit for this. |
From: Raikkonen on Sat Sep 15 0:40:50 2007. |
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Sep 16 4:38:08 2007. |
equanimus wrote: |
Raju is still my standout favourite among the Madras Baashai-speaking half-wit characters |
equanimus wrote: |
"DhOdA! Unakku somersault adikka therima?" |
equanimus wrote: |
I feel all these off-kilter material came straight out of Kamal Haasan's head, but I may be wrong as well. |
From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Sep 17 4:39:50 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: |
The earnestness when PKS rsponds to Yuhi Sethu's "record break" in the jewellery shop is just great. |
From: ajithfederer on Mon Sep 17 16:52:15 2007. |
From: anoops on Mon Sep 17 23:29:50 2007. |
Kumar wrote: |
Simran: ..............stupid! Ridiculous!!
Kamal:Inna?!!Stupid-a?!Nee yenna sonalum naa kaetekenumma? Dont put word in my mouth-u! Vaartei pudunggathe-dren! Simran:What?? Kamal:Inna, thappa? Correct-u thaana naan sonadhu? Abbas:Correct-u, aana 's' vitingge Kamal: Adhuyen vuduvaana....Don't put word in my mouths-u!! PS: My apologies, if my reproduction of dialogue is not up to par and if my romanised Tamil is not that good.... |
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Sep 18 21:31:46 2007. |
Equanimus wrote: |
I am big fan of PKS, the character; and intend to start a cult following for him in the future when the necessary faculties are at my disposal. I don't mean to suggest that he's as influential as The Dude of 'The Big Lebowski,' but he's "The Tamil Dude" for me! On that note, I must say, Raju is still my standout favourite among the Madras Baashai-speaking half-wit characters (half-wit sounds more appropriate than dimwit to me) that Kamal has played -- and PKS wouldn't mind that all, but I tend to think PKS is the most well-realised Madras Baashai-speaking half-wit (half-wit, the most important qualifier here!) Kamal has ever played |
From: thilak4life on Wed Sep 19 2:27:46 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Sep 19 4:25:15 2007. |
thilak4life wrote: |
TBL and Coen brothers fan here is insulted. ![]() |
From: thilak4life on Wed Sep 19 4:25:21 2007. |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 19 6:14:35 2007. |
Kumar wrote: |
The scene following the divorce settlement cracks me up each time I see it: Kamal: Passing-u cloud-a?? Abbas: Naanthaanne athu. Kamal:Aah! Avalo English-u theriyum yenneku..... (then greets Sneha by saying) No mention, ma................ and Simran: ..............stupid! Ridiculous!! Kamal:Inna?!!Stupid-a?!Nee yenna sonalum naa kaetekenumma? Dont put word in my mouth-u! Vaartei pudunggathe-dren! Simran:What?? Kamal:Inna, thappa? Correct-u thaana naan sonadhu? Abbas:Correct-u, aana 's' vitingge Kamal: Adhuyen vuduvaana....Don't put word in my mouths-u!! PS: My apologies, if my reproduction of dialogue is not up to par and if my romanised Tamil is not that good.... |
From: equanimus on Wed Sep 19 6:28:38 2007. |
Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||
Equanimus lovely post on PKS. After reading your post I feel I have watched only half the film !
Germ traced to Avvai Shanmugi: Viswanathayyar: ChellappAvukkum Mudaliarukkum enna dA sammandham ? Sethuraamayyar: sammandham irukkuNNA...sammandha mudaliyAr
hey ! sabAs... nallavarundra... ? my favourite quotable quote
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Prabhu Ram wrote: |
The earnestness when PKS rsponds to Yuhi Sethu's "record break" in the jewellery shop is just great. Even in the poignant rejection scene he steals the show with "innA cinemAvE paakkAdha valandhuttOmnu nenekkireengaLA ?" |
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Was watching the forgettable MaharAsan last night. One movie even Kamal couldn't save. The pazhamozhi speaker who excels in PKS is found there as an ill-developed mass. And of course some sparkles here and there, particularly with Goundamani. GM-Kamal are a rather good but undernoticed tag team. |
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Sep 20 2:03:24 2007. |
Qalandar wrote: |
I am ostensibly an odd choice to write a commemorative post on a site dedicated to Kamal Haasan: not only have I not grown up on Nayakan, Thevar Magan or Guna, but I’ve come to Kamal’s films — indeed, Tamil films in general — only relatively recently (and even now am limited to the ones I can find with English subtitles), and indeed often wish he would stop playing the hero (including in one of my favorite Kamal films, Virumaandi). What gives? All of the above might, however, make me especially well-positioned to begin a discussion on Kamal’s place in Indian cinema, a discussion, that is, that does not focus on his acting achievements so much as on what he means, the position he occupies, and the difference he has made. That “difference” is not merely a question of saying that Kamal stands for “quality” cinema, or that Kamal goes against the grain of Tamil masala cinema. Rather, a proper appreciation of this difference would also have to engage with the wider context of a Tamil cinema that is simultaneously a “regional” cinema, and one confronted with the hard fact of a dominant “national” industry with far greater resources at hand. For it is this terrain that Kamal’s career has had to negotiate, certainly over the last two decades. Confronted with that brute fact, the tendency is for India’s “regional” industries to go aggressively “local”, with cinema being viewed as a repository (or even as embattled citadel) of a culture and way of life that is under threat, besieged not necessarily due to any overt political hostility so much as by the dominance of a discourse — in this case Hindi cinema — with nationwide ambitions. At its best, this phenomenon results in films far more attuned to the rhythm of the “little”; to “marginal” voices that are not very likely to register on canvases where images are painted in very broad brushes; to moments as opposed to grand projects; to stories and not mere spectacles. At its worst, however, the “regional” film finds it hard to shed its mantle of insularity, and runs the risk of imagining the “local” past and culture as hermetically sealed and set in stone, and even of falling into the trap of xenophobia. Confronted with a “national” hegemony that would potentially sacrifice the “regional” at the altar of homogeneity, the temptation (not often resisted) is to construct a narrative of the “regional” that itself becomes a countervailing homogenizing hegemony: certain films or subjects are deemed more or less “authentically” Tamil, while others might be criticized for not hewing closely to a “standard” or “authorized” Tamil idiom. The construction of a countervailing sub-national hegemony, in short, risks compromising the very attention to the “local” that animated the “regional” in the first place. Ever since the man started assuming greater film-making control over his projects, the arc of Kamal’s career has done more to destabilize the above polarity than any other, Mani Ratnam’s excluded (fittingly enough, if one were hardpressed for an inaugural “moment” for the difference I am referring to, one need look no further than the coming together of Ratnam and Kamal in Nayakan). For Kamal and Ratnam have sought to evade the hegemonic “national” by resorting to a global paradigm, one that seeks to tap into the best of “world” cinema in an ambitious attempt to distinguish their Tamil films not merely on account of their Tamil essence but on account of their excellence — where “excellence” is defined not in terms of what would or would not pass muster in mainstream Hindi cinema, but what would make the grade where the world’s cinephiles are concerned. Indeed, it would be no exaggeration to say that of the two, Kamal’s concern for the health — and even more so for the sophistication — of Tamil cinema exceeds that of Ratnam’s. And if the prescription comes at a price — the casting of Kamal himself in the role of messiah — in a historical sense the price is well worth paying. Kamal’s approach is not simply a question of distinguishing Tamil films by virtue of quality: the films he has directed make clear that he sees the appeal to the trans-national as a way not only to evade the national, but to enable the “regional” to interrogate the national, thereby carving out a cinematic space that is not simply a function of linguistic difference, even as it depends upon and perhaps even acts in the name of that linguistic difference. It is worth stressing that this is in no way an “anti-national” viewpoint, but instead one that resists the dominance of an “official” paradigm. My point is best illustrated by means of Hey Ram and Virumaandi, two of the finest Indian films I have seen this decade, and both directed by Kamal himself. Hey Ram is ostensibly itself a “national” film, planned and executed as a bi-lingual, and populated with Bollywood stars, to such a degree that non-Tamilians might not even think of it as a Tamil film at all. Yet this is no instance of cultural effacement in the quest for a wider audience. Rather, Kamal uses Hey Ram to literally enact the drama of the “regional” difference (not to mention communal difference) vis-a-vis the symbolic heart of India, Mahatma Gandhi himself. This is about more than just the fact that the film’s protagonist is Tamil Brahmin Saket Ram, out to avenge himself on the nation’s father; rather, one realizes very soon that almost every memorable character in the film is testimony to the “regional”, be it a Pathan Muslim, Saket Ram’s Bengali wife, or his Sindhi friend. In fact, the film’s casting of culturally “authentic” Hema Malini as a Tamilian is itself slyly subversive, inasmuch as it takes a “national” icon and “regionalizes” her in a very direct way. The extremist Abhayankar and the wicked Altaf are far more “mainstream”, of course — not coincidentally, if the film has villains, they undoubtedly fit the bill. Towards the film’s end it is in fact the Pathan’s knowledge of Tamil that enables him and Saket to escape the mob at their heels, a literal staging of the hope that acknowledgment of political difference — here the sub-national — might enable us to sidestep the overarching manias of national projects (problematic not so much because they are manias but because they are overarching projects), including projects like Abhayankar’s. Perhaps most wondrous of all is the fact that not a trace of anti-Indian sentiment animates Hey Ram, though this isn’t surprising to those who have followed Kamal’s interviews. The film is not embarrassed to embrace India, but equally, is consistent with a view that does not see patriotism as involving any sub-national compromise, and certainly no compromise of a humanity that is shared across communal and other boundaries. Perhaps as a result of its enactment of this conviction on a nationwide scale, Hey Ram might be the grandest “regional” film of them all, free not only to examine the national margins but also liberated from the stultifying restrictions of “mainstream” discourse within which it would be difficult to think the things Hey Ram thinks of. The result is a political film that is bolder than most, and a “regional” film that meditates on issues that resonate nationally, even globally. Virumaandi illustrates another aspect of the “difference” I started out with. On the face of it, the tale of a violent inter-village conflict in Madurai district sounds like the sort of “local” film any number of directors mindful of making “authentic” Tamil films could have made. Once again (and more clearly here than in Hey Ram) it is Kamal’s recourse to broader aesthetic and political concerns that distinguishes the film, which touches upon Kurosawa’s Rashomon, capital punishment, and the injustice of the justice system. Simultaneously, Virumaandi strives to be a rip-roaring “massy” action film as well as the sort of rural study Bharathiraja was once known for — in short, about as recognizably Tamil a film as one could ask for. The melange is not always seamless, but the parry (of the status quo, here represented by a hopelessly inadequate legal order) and thrust (of the “regional”, in the form of the ultra-Tamil feel of the film) clearly strikes a chord. Virumaandi is consistent with Kamal’s resistance to the homogenizing potential of the “regional” itself, and displays an ear for Tamil voices not often heard in mainstream cinema. Nor was Virumaandi the first time Kamal had explored the representation of voices that one might characterize as “marginal” to the Tamil cinematic mainstream, as films like Thenali, Nala Damayanti , and Anbe Sivam attest — indeed the first two quite literally focus on characters who speak a Tamil that is lived on the border as it were, between Sinhalese and Tamil in Thenali; and between Tamil and Malayalam in Nala Damayanti. (The third film explores a character beholden to an ideology — communism — that is as marginalized today as it has ever been.) With Kamal, it is clear, the hegemony of the national may not be replaced with the hegemony of an “authorized” regional voice, one which purports to stand for the authentic to the exclusion of others. Moreover, Nala Damayanti is especially relevant in the contemporary “globalized” world, given its doubly disorienting move: not only does the film’s protagonist speak the Palakkad Tamil of the Tamil Nadu-Kerala borderlands, but he is also an illegal immigrant in a strange land, adrift in a sea of English he cannot understand. Nala Damayanti, that is, illustrates yet again the ability of the “regional” film to explore global issues that the “mainstream”, almost by design, finds difficult to engage. If this essay is about anything, it is about more than the achievements of a single actor/filmmaker (and I have deliberately stressed the “filmmaker” Kamal here, leaving to others better qualified than I the task of thinking about Kamal’s performances and other contributions in light of this piece). Because the likes of Kamal have inspired others in Tamil cinema, not only at the purely superficial (albeit very welcome) level of technical proficiency, but visually and thematically as well. Rather than cite particular examples of filmmakers and actors who have followed Kamal, I will end by paraphrasing a critic I greatly respect, who had once said that prior to the mid-1980s there was no non-culturally specific reason to watch any Tamil films. The “difference” to which Kamal Haasan has helped give concrete form means this is simply not true anymore. How untrue it is in the grand scheme of things is an open question, and will turn (as it must) on those who follow. Kamal has done his part — and, fittingly enough, not just “locally”: while the Kamal “difference” is a different animal from the (overly optimistic) crossover concerns that seem to occupy far too many in the Hindi film industry these days, it has nevertheless left its mark even there, principally by way of the manner in which the likes of Aamir Khan have begun to approach their films — with seriousness, ambition, and the desire to rescue popular cinema from both global blandness and “native” cliche. It is not a question of creative influence so much as it is one of mindset. A mindset that is best situated to result in global critical recognition for India’s popular cinemas, and in a manner such that they do not cease to be voices of our many Indias. |
From: Roshan on Thu Sep 20 3:41:57 2007. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Sep 20 12:26:36 2007. |
From: Roshan on Thu Sep 20 13:18:43 2007. |
sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote: |
roshan, u have any technical probs accessing the hub? i have some probs some times, [inspite of a 3 mbps broadband]and wondering why |
From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Sep 21 0:43:55 2007. |
Roshan wrote: | ||
Yes ! we all are experiencing this problem since Firday evening. Hub admin is trying their best to fix it. I am not sure whether I can post this message or not. More than accessing, posting has become quite cumbersome due to the said technical issue. |
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Sep 28 9:21:47 2007. |
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To paraphrase Bertrand Russell, a stupid man’s report of what a clever man intends to portray on screen may never be accurate. Nevertheless I shall attempt an interpretation. The movie has been alternately hailed and dismissed from different sections for various reasons. I will touch on the screenplay and the characterizations, two items that are sometimes knocked.
A frequent criticism leveled against the movie is the script, especially the flashback sequence. A simple exercise to determine if a scene is superfluous to a screenplay is to remove that scene or sequence and see if the movie still holds together. Anbe Sivam stands up to this test very well. Apart from 2 songs (an occupational hazard in the Indian Film Industry), the removal of any scene would rip through the entire fabric of the movie. Some sequences while clichéd from a birds eye view are less so when examined. The minor banalities in structure are acknowledged by the writer through Madhavan’s “Puratchi Kathaanayagan Thimiru pudicha Kadhaanayagi” (dashing hero, arrogant heroine) dialogue.The entire sequence in Bala’s house serves to emphasize the romance, Kandaswami Padaiyaachi’s opportunistic theism and finally the reason for Bala’s continued involvement with Nalla. The action sequence sets up the scene afterward in the police station (the actor playing the inspector is a riot). It forces Nalla to come to terms with the consequences of his dalliance with the daughter of the man whose policies he resents. I would like to mention 2 specific scenes that contrast the range of anecdotes that were drawn upon to deliver exposition in the movie. First, the portentous scene about the Tsunami that plays out in the Bhubaneshwar Hotel; the description of the photography-enthusiast consumed by the seas is supposedly based on a tragedy that befell a close friend (source: Kamal the writer himself in an interview to Sun TV). The scenes at the mural unveiling in Kandaswami Padaiyachi’s office are based on, I presume, Diego Rivera’s mural for the Rockefeller Center (a point to note here is Nalla’s allegiance, much like Russell, lies more with Marx than with Lenin). Referencing an intensely personal experience as well as global pop culture in the same movie should be a stretch, but it is pulled off with consummate ease. The obvious strengths in the Nalla role apart, what is really meant to step out of the movie and slap the average yuppie viewer’s face is the Anbarasu character. Madhavan delivers the wake up call well, combining socially accepted selfishness and naivete’ with aplomb. Even small characters like the members of the Koothupattarai (street play troupe in Tamil Nadu), Mehrunnisa and Pounkunju in particular, are given a lot of depth. And for the piece-de-resistance we return to Nalla. For nearly 2 hours the man is infallible. He has fought the Indian government and won, waded through floods, chased a train, lost and donated blood and through his generally gregarious nature managed to traverse nearly the entire east coast of the country on a leg and a half. And then suddenly the self-assured “last-word-freak” has all his insecurities laid out in one line. “Manaivingurathu oru karpanai walking stick. Manam Nondaama Irukkanum Ille” (”The concept of wife is an imaginary walking stick. The mind shouldn’t go lame, right?”). Nalla’s imaginary walking stick clearly shows Kamal Haasan’s imagination needs none. |
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Deepauk,
That was a superb write-up on the film, especially some compelling notes on the flashback sequence. Yours truly is one of those who think the flashback pulls the movie down (in general, unlike most Kamal fans, I don’t place this film in the league of the best Kamal films), but that’s not to question the writing that went into these sequences. If anything, it’s the strong writing that saves the flashback. But, honestly, the way these sequences are staged and executed left things to be desired. I love the way Kamal delivers the walking-stick line in broken pieces of words with a sort of cheerfulness, but it doesn’t betray his insecurity as much as acknowledge it. On a different note, one can see that the writer Kamal exploring “the tragicomic” so effectively in this film, right from the scenes in the flood-affected Bhubaneshwar till they reach a railway station in Andhra. (Subtle, ironic and dark humour has always been Kamal’s forte, but nowhere did the humour got overtly tragicomic as here.) For example, the scene where he talks about his father’s death [*]; or when Mehrunissa opens her heart about her love for Nalla. That scene is very funny but also touching. Why, in this scene, Nalla actually says, “azhuvaRadhA sirikkaRadhA ‘nnE theriyala…” Now this very line is repeated (’sirikkaRadhu’ precedes ‘azhuvaRadhu’ here!) in the last Kamal-written last venture — the underrated Mumbai Xpress, in which he explored “the tragicomic” more eloquently though it is rather unnoticed. The first scene with Avinasi, Daddu and Ahalya in Ahalya’s house is a good example. It is so funny because of the things the three say to the other two (especially Avinasi has “heartless” things to say here. One has to hear him reflect so blandly, “sOgamAna kadhai dhAn…” to believe it!). But, it’s also sad because we know what the characters are going through. But for the dragging sequences with Chettiar in the car and ACP SP Rao on the phone in the last hour, this one is quite a Kamal special for me. If only Kamal had not gone all-out in designing a farcical web of confusion (and obligatory automobile chases) that dragged more than tickle the funny bone, this one would have been right up there. * - It was Gollapudi Maruthi Rao’s son, Gollapudi Srinivas, who died in a similar accident. The Gollapudi Srinivas National award is also instituted in his memory. Rao is a writer and his friendship with Kamal goes a long way back. And, of course, he has acted in many Kamal films like Swathi Muthyam, Indrudu Chandrudu, Hey! Ram (as Govardhan). This is his personal website. |
From: Alek Niranjan on Tue Oct 2 2:37:49 2007. |
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From: NOV on Sat Oct 6 10:01:07 2007. |
From: Devar Magan on Sat Oct 6 13:46:52 2007. |
NOV wrote: |
watched Mahanadhi again after umpteen years. this is the kamal I want to watch - again and again. unconscious effort, no heroism and with such realism that it tears out your heart. IR's background is amazing. bu the unnecessary smooch ![]() most ppl think culcutta when talking abt mahanadhi. but the whole prison sequence was fantastic and so so fulfilling. the culcutta scenes happen only after the first two hours. altho i have to admit that i couldnt control my emotions when kamal meets shobana in the whorehouse. ![]() a classic to be revered. |
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sat Oct 6 16:12:18 2007. |
From: crajkumar_be on Sun Oct 7 0:01:57 2007. |
From: Roshan on Sun Oct 7 3:03:45 2007. |
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also, the character of kaveri was enacted by 3 girls.. the girl in the brothel is a real-life pro.. sangeetha enacts kaveri in the climax of the movie.. |
From: Devar Magan on Sun Oct 7 5:29:09 2007. |
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