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| Topic started by MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 8:22:07 2007. |
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| From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 8:22:52 2007. |
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 8:34:13 2007. |
What do you think I am going to vote for.....| From: Pras on Fri Nov 30 8:35:24 2007. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Nov 30 9:30:08 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
| put another option : "loosu movie" |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 9:45:33 2007. |
, now Pooja is doing. So the starcast is not bad. My take is it is going to be better than Pithamagan.. Definitely it will be a sad movie but he has the knack of getting the viewer involved.
| From: MADDY on Fri Nov 30 10:01:20 2007. |
.....eating dead bodies.......
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:06:58 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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Why guys? I think Bala has potential to make a good movie. Arya is a director's actor. He was good in AA and Pattiayal. When I heard that some Meenakshi was doing the heroine role, i was like , now Pooja is doing. So the starcast is not bad. My take is it is going to be better than Pithamagan.. Definitely it will be a sad movie but he has the knack of getting the viewer involved.
Ramesh, Even for Billa trailer, 2 people came and voted for bad. How can I include the third option of NK. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 10:08:46 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies.......
i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie..... |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Nov 30 10:19:34 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies.......
i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie..... |
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:20:54 2007. |
| littlemaster1982 wrote: | ||
'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 10:21:54 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
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Firstly, we never asked the thread starter to remove the "bad" option. We only deplored that people have voted bad for Billa's trailer even though it was excellent to tamil movie standards - a fact agreed upon by many. Secondly, We didn’t start voting for billa trailer before the trailer was released, we had a platform to decide on it because of the trailer. The case here is not the same. IMHO, trying to compare billa and NK is in itself atrocious. Past films matter very little; just because bala's past films were success it doesn't mean this film too will follow the suite. There are lots of indicators that this film may not be as good. First, the confusion surrounding the lead & the frequent exit of heroines and the delay it caused may hint to some that the film may be bad. I don’t know how well the film has come out after all this confusion and delay. If not for anything, every one has freedom of expression, even if the film is exceptionally good, one may have the view that it was bad. Trying to stifle one's voice by not giving him the option is not right. More over for an Ajit fan, we will at least believe & hope that the movie is bad for all he did to Ajit, is unacceptable. I agree it’s not logical, but we never claimed we are always logical. We have our freedom to believe so, just as few people have freedom to believe Billa’s trailer was bad [mind you they may have valid reasons to believe so]. If the film really comes out well then that’s a different story. We will have to take the blame for not accepting it as good film [that happens if we still stick to our stand & the film is good] & bad mouthing the film before its release. But we are more than ready to do so. |
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:33:30 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Ramesh, I am not comparing Billa with NK, don't mistaken me. What I said was even for such a good trailer of Billa, people voted for bad options. That's why bad option is not included to the polls here.
I don't want to get into the personal problems of Bala or any other artiste. Let them solve their own problems privately. What should matter to fans of tf like us is how well they come up with their projects and their problems should not interfere us liking their projects if they are good. I am confident in Bala's ability, he will pull it off this time too.[/tscii] |
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:42:41 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 13:11:33 2007. |
| From: Nerd on Fri Nov 30 13:13:45 2007. |
| From: app_engine on Fri Nov 30 13:32:02 2007. |
| From: ajithfederer on Fri Nov 30 13:51:37 2007. |
| From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 14:41:35 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| OK, Ramesh....
MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll? |
Naan thaan tension aiteeno..... | From: MADDY on Fri Nov 30 14:53:11 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: | ||
Vidunga... no tension.... Naan thaan tension aiteeno..... |
| From: Pras on Fri Nov 30 16:11:22 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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Ramesh, I am not comparing Billa with NK, don't mistaken me. What I said was even for such a good trailer of Billa, people voted for bad options. That's why bad option is not included to the polls here.
I don't want to get into the personal problems of Bala or any other artiste. Let them solve their own problems privately. What should matter to fans of tf like us is how well they come up with their projects and their problems should not interfere us liking their projects if they are good. I am confident in Bala's ability, he will pull it off this time too. |
| From: ajithfederer on Fri Nov 30 17:05:47 2007. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
i too need this option...... its going to be a flop... though i like Bala & Ilayaraaja |
| From: Tia on Fri Nov 30 19:07:20 2007. |
i am not watching the movie if arya eats dead bodies!
| MADDY wrote: |
| i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies.......
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| From: Kumar on Fri Nov 30 22:44:39 2007. |
| littlemaster1982 wrote: |
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'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies. |
, ..ummm....birds and the bees, ....but in this case, the bees have been sprayed with insecticide....get my drift.....the malligai poo has withered somewhat......
| From: joe on Fri Nov 30 23:12:39 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| OK, Ramesh....
MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll? |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:16:43 2007. |
| app_engine wrote: |
| Judge, I think you can do that by editing the first post (which is yours)... |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:18:03 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: | ||
Vidunga... no tension.... Naan thaan tension aiteeno..... |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:19:05 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| no, its just u spoke out ur tension and we kept it inside |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:22:25 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
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Judgu, you are comparing pithamagan with NK in your poll ... that IS NOT acceptable as well |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:24:07 2007. |
| littlemaster1982 wrote: |
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'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies. |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:29:39 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:32:20 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| What option you want to add? |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:36:10 2007. |
| littlemaster1982 wrote: |
| I just said the right meaning of that word. That doesn't mean the film will be having that |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:39:15 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:39:15 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years. |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:44:14 2007. |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:45:08 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
yeah, MADDY was talking this movie is about Necrophilism. You have given the right meaning and I was just pointing it out that it was not possible. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:46:06 2007. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:49:02 2007. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:52:04 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 2:13:01 2007. |
| PrabhuRam wrote: |
| http://youtube.com/watch?v=GXEt7d1rtHw |
| From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 2:42:12 2007. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| http://youtube.com/watch?v=GXEt7d1rtHw |
......| From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 3:55:52 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| no, thats not Necrophilism......doc just asks that........ |
| From: joe on Sat Dec 1 5:09:57 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
lower than Pithamagan Thanks! |
| From: Pras on Sat Dec 1 5:20:02 2007. |
... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu| From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 5:44:39 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
| thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 6:21:51 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
| thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu |
Please don't compare him with hari.
| From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 6:24:26 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Please don't compare him with hari.
What were you thinking |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 6:26:46 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Please don't compare him with hari.
What were you thinking |
| From: joe on Sat Dec 1 6:48:31 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
| thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu |
| From: Sanjeevi on Sat Dec 1 7:28:33 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 7:33:04 2007. |
| From: Sanjeevi on Sat Dec 1 7:39:59 2007. |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 7:46:56 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 7:49:23 2007. |
| Sanjeevi wrote: |
| LM somehow I agree with Sangeetha, but Bala introduced Karunas and definitely Karunas tasted the success atleast for a short period. See his performance in E, he is not only comedian. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 7:50:49 2007. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 11:25:44 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. Innamum dubbing-la thaan busy-a irunthiruppar. |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 12:02:32 2007. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
idhu edho thaakki pesura madhiri irukku |
| From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 14:44:39 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan |
| From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 15:27:53 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: | ||||
| Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck..
As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable.
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| From: buddysathi on Sat Dec 1 16:04:59 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Sat Dec 1 16:08:46 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. |
| From: joe on Sat Dec 1 21:36:06 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: | ||||
| Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck..
As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable.
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| From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 22:03:44 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||||||
I disagree your honor!
Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars. Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors. Btw ,My comment was particularly for Pras ,without Bala he may not be a fan of Vikram. Apart from that I know why you guys hate Bala |
| From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 22:19:15 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| I disagree your honor!
Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars. |
...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa.......
........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense......
| joe wrote: |
| Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors |
......gemini, madhavan were called so - now surya | From: joe on Sat Dec 1 22:41:15 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| wat "sambar" means |
| From: joe on Sat Dec 1 22:46:35 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| it means that both needed a break very badly |
| From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 23:08:19 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||
i completely agree with Joe here ...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa.......
i cant help laughing when people say, Hari & Lingu are equal to Bala......though i hate that guy for wat he did to thala, i really feel, he is the father of the current trend of filmmaking......it ranks alongside 16 vaidhunile,Udhiri pookkal, Nayagan....Sethu was a "earthquake"......all the "sad", dark,experiment movies we see today is bcos Bala set the tamil people to such extreme visuals/storylines........ ........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense......
i seriously want to know, wat "sambar" means ......gemini, madhavan were called so - now surya |
| From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 23:10:50 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
I don't understand How come somebody needed a break even after his very first movie |
| From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 23:23:29 2007. |
| From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 23:37:10 2007. |
| From: joe on Sat Dec 1 23:42:11 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: | ||||
Who was the hero of his very first movie? |
| Quote: |
| how many producers and heros rejeced that story? |
| Quote: |
| Answer this question... |
| Quote: |
| you may very very understand how.... |
| From: app_engine on Sun Dec 2 0:11:57 2007. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 0:29:12 2007. |
| app_engine wrote: |
| he is one among the very few who can charge up the aged IR.
I definitely don't look forward to his next movie, though there is some interest in how IR is going to score for this. |
......its all IMO | From: rooky on Sun Dec 2 0:33:45 2007. |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 0:36:08 2007. |
| rooky wrote: |
| If KB made Kamal and Rajini, Bala made Vikram and Surya..No denying that.
Vikram and Surya are more than happy to accept that, as is done by Kamal and Rajini. |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 0:55:21 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| Still I don't understand How come bala expect a break even before his first movie
Break is something needed in between the carrier ,not before starting the carrier itself |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 0:56:13 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
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| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 0:57:41 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| He was Assistant director for the famous national award director and cinematographer Balu Mahendra. So it was a break to his carrier.... LOLZZZZZZZ |
I see.
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:02:09 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala......theres no end to this arguement......IMO, its bala who revived vikram, surya.....if not surya,vikram, he would have got this work from some other guys..........there cannot be bad actors, there can be only bad directors |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:03:56 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
I see.
Atleast you didn't say Bala already got a break when he drive motor bike even before he became Asst .Director
Thanks! |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 1:10:32 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| there cannot be bad actors - do you know how many people Bala auditions for a role? If he is a good director he must have selected the very first candiate or is their something called a "bad actor"? - |
.......
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| Your claim is baseless. |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 1:16:46 2007. |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 1:18:45 2007. |
I never liked his acting ,dialogue delivery | From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:31:29 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
r u a lawyer, by any chance??? i have seen u using strong words like this always to attack opposition |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:32:40 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| Btw, I am not expecting much with Naan Kadavul ,for only one reason ,Aarya I never liked his acting ,dialogue delivery |
it will be another se"thu"| From: ajithfederer on Sun Dec 2 1:33:02 2007. |
....I (for that matter anyone) can pinpoint atleast a dozen actors in the past/present who are bad at acting
| MADDY wrote: |
| ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala......theres no end to this arguement......IMO, its bala who revived vikram, surya.....if not surya,vikram, he would have got this work from some other guys..........there cannot be bad actors, there can be only bad directors |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:35:55 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
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again - u have too see, what Bala did with available resources......vikram wasnt obviously his first choice (100 rejections) ..........wow, i wud like to stop here, i cant argue *for* Bala so much .......
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| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 1:48:41 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| Maddy,
Intha panjayathukku neengaLavathu oru mudivu sollunga |
)
(i give a )| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 2:05:03 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
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ramesh, i didnt support my claim, bcos the arguement was getting circular.........i do have lots of valid claims - yes, if i dont present them, u can call me baseless,tasteless or anything u want (i give a ) |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 2:13:23 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: | ||
It is not about me claiming something.... A statement not supported by facts is called baseless by definition. So you can rather give a, to English rather than me... |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:24:15 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair..
But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:30:18 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
I dont know about that!
But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there! |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:30:51 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
I dont know about that!
But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there! |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Dec 2 2:35:08 2007. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 3:15:00 2007. |
| littlemaster1982 wrote: |
| Did sun rise in the west today???? Maddy and Judge are in the same side |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 3:15:20 2007. |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 3:21:07 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| I don't understand why people want to see just one side of the story only... that Vikram and surya where nothing before their movies with Bala... but will never see that Bala was also nothing before his first film.... |
Just now you argued Bala already got a break even before Sethu,his first movie | From: joe on Sun Dec 2 3:37:47 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:24:49 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
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MADDY will go back to his routine soon | From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 4:26:57 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
i completely agree with Joe here ...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa.......
i cant help laughing when people say, Hari & Lingu are equal to Bala......though i hate that guy for wat he did to thala, i really feel, he is the father of the current trend of filmmaking......it ranks alongside 16 vaidhunile,Udhiri pookkal, Nayagan....Sethu was a "earthquake"......all the "sad", dark,experiment movies we see today is bcos Bala set the tamil people to such extreme visuals/storylines........ ........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense......
|
-ed at theatre
as a good film maker.| From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 4:27:54 2007. |
... sethu is a good movie, in fact that is the only good movie of Bala ... but vikram signed lot of movies at that time, including Dharani's dhill and Balaji Sakthivel's samurai ...
) and pithamagan ...
... another one which is a BIG HIT and bala just copied it to give a poor movie ... the only saving grace are vikram, suriya and IR's music ....| From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 4:29:42 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:31:42 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| C4Ramesh,
You already confessed that you hate Bala just for his misunderstanding with Ajith . If Ajith is a hero of 'Naan Kadavul' ,you would have praised Bala like anything. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 4:34:57 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Even I was wondering at MADDY's comments....Usually he sides with actors and I stand by directors. But in this case, MADDY is with me, I see it happening for a short period only MADDY will go back to his routine soon |
.....i'm a director supporter 
- i even argue with ARR fans who discredit maniratnam for ARR's success..... ......Bala-Vikram case, Bala is definitely the winner , Ajith-Bala - no way, Bala cannot be supported........
.......| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:37:00 2007. |
| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:39:37 2007. |
| Quote: |
| what better way than NK flopping |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 4:42:31 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||
Vaazhga Thamizh cinema... |
| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:45:26 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||
thamizh cinema munnetram - 5-star hotelgalil, 4 suvathhukkul, nalla kadhanaygargalin mirattilil dhaan varum endraal - Thamizh cinema Ozhiga |
This should have been escalated legally, but Ajith proved to be a gentleman, I hope his fans take cue. | From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 4:48:50 2007. |
| Sanjeevi wrote: |
| pras,
appo vikram-ku National Award vangi kodutha Pithamagan good film illaiya |
whithout pithamagan, vikram would have achieved a NA anyway too ... in fact you are all speaking about pithamagan and bala because of vikram ... vikram gave that break to bala .poke:| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:48:56 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| ...i'm a director supporter |
| MADDY wrote: |
| Ajith-Bala - no way, Bala cannot be supported........ |
| MADDY wrote: |
| there is no forgiving here......even if Ajith forgives him, i dont think his admirers and his fans should.......Bala should atleast realise that he has done some mistake........what better way than NK flopping ....... |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:53:46 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
| dhil gave the break to Vikram and made me a fan of him .... without sethu and bala, vikram's hard work would have given him the place he occupies now ANYWAY !! |
| From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 4:59:44 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| "Chiyaan" Vikram will answer what Sethu meant to Vikram..
Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well. I actually find his casting change amusing. Why Arya for Ajith? Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors (In some cases, it's just plain horrenduous, Nanda's mother for example, or less refined acting as with Pithamagan's Chithan - then again, they are justified by the [b]liberties a filmmaker has with his characterization)[/b] |
| From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 5:00:34 2007. |
| Pras wrote: | ||
whithout pithamagan, vikram would have achieved a NA anyway too ... in fact you are all speaking about pithamagan and bala because of vikram ... vikram gave that break to bala .poke: |
| From: Agni on Sun Dec 2 5:02:24 2007. |
| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:03:22 2007. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||
Appadi pAthA - all directors can justify all what they deliver - based on their own 'liberty' with their characterisation. Othukka mudiyaatha, unrealistic charactersation-ku ippadi kooda justification kodukka mudiyumnu ippathAn theriyuthu. I think it's mainly because of the liberty the writer has with his language skills |
| From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 5:03:45 2007. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||
Appadi pAthA - all directors can justify all what they deliver - based on their own 'liberty' with their characterisation. Othukka mudiyaatha, unrealistic charactersation-ku ippadi kooda justification kodukka mudiyumnu ippathAn theriyuthu. I think it's mainly because of the liberty the writer has with his language skills |
| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:06:21 2007. |
| Quote: |
| Don't say this just because you have no experience with these type of characters in real life. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 5:06:27 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors |
| From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 2 5:13:42 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 5:46:12 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. |
Welcome to the Jothi!
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa |
| From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:50:00 2007. |
| Quote: |
| Even after Vikram and Surya accepted that Bala was the career-booster for them, their fans simply don't accept it |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 5:52:20 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||
That's the worst part... |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 5:57:22 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta
Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa |
......bala, oru ganja party-nnu, avarukku ponnu kooda kudukkaama irundhaanga.......it was on Ajith's help, that he got married.......they were close frnds b4.......so, it was Ajith who clearly gave "vaazhvu" to bala..... .....idha sonna, naa emotional, sentimental, personal vishayangala pathhi pesuraennu solluvaanga.......read Ameer's take on this issue - he was more agitated than us.....
......i think, this mite be Arya's last movie | From: joe on Sun Dec 2 6:05:24 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i think, this mite be Arya's last movie |
| From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 6:10:41 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
One more achivement from Bala |
| Maddy wrote: |
| yes, he would have changed Ajith's outlook, no doubts - but i'm really happy that he came out of it after looking at Arya in promo stills ......i think, this mite be Arya's last movie |
Avara 'kadavuL' kAppathi irukkAr | From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 6:16:58 2007. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| Maddy,
You forgot onething. Do you think an actor like Ajith can get stuck with one director for more than 5 years? Avara 'kadavuL' kAppathi irukkAr |
| From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 6:30:21 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
yea, thats also true - but how abt Robo for Ajith which will take 3 yrs to complete |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 7:31:07 2007. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| Besides 3 varushathukkuLLa Shankar padatha kaNdippA mudichuduvaar but ithu namma arasAngam pOduRa ainthAndu thittam, paththaandu thittam mAthiri. varumA varAthAnnu theriyAthu |
.....btw, is thenappan still producer of NK or has he been replaced too.....
| Roshan wrote: |
| Bala fans ellAm adikka varrathukku munnAdi |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:43:44 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
so, u r asking for it....arent u -
|
| Quote: |
| 1. give me 3 bad performances from bala's 3 movies and i quit........ |
| Quote: |
| 2. give me one path breaking performance of Surya and vikram b4 their sethu and nanda |
| Quote: |
| 3. compare status of vikram b4/after sethu....... |
| Quote: |
|
4. do u want to deny vikram and surya, when they themselves seem to accept that Bala is their mentor...... |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:47:15 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Just now you argued Bala already got a break even before Sethu,his first movie |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:49:19 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| C4Ramesh,
You already confessed that you hate Bala just for his misunderstanding with Ajith . |
| joe wrote: |
|
If Ajith is a hero of 'Naan Kadavul' ,you would have praised Bala like anything. |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:54:39 2007. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:14:10 2007. |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 8:17:56 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| ramesh, there are no bad actors doesent mean, there are no bad actors in this world........even a dumbo like Ravikrishna was used superbly by Selvaraghavan - thats a good director.......direction is people management in many ways......if the person is not good enuf, then he wont be onboard........if he is onboard, then its ur responsibility........the other way around we see is - madhavan was wasted in movies like "priyamana thozhi" and "arya" .......bad direction can waste good talents too.......and vikraman himself accepted this........
ok, my statement doesent mean, Surya and vikram solely live on nandha and sethu, respectivelty.....they have excelled/consolidated after nandha/sethu..........nandha/sethu are just breaks..........yes, there was a mutual help in vikram-bala-sethu case, but more from Bala side.......a great director like sridhar couldnt do wat bala did to vikram.......understand that...... (pls dont take literal meanings of my statement, pls see what i'm trying to convey.......) |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:22:38 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| I have nothing to comment.... When some one says there are no bad actors only good directors.... I just wanted to say it is not so. But if you didn't mean what you said. Then I have nothing to say.... |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 8:26:20 2007. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:30:16 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| I have nothing to comment.... When some one says there are no bad actors only good directors.... I just wanted to say it is not so. But if you didn't mean what you said. Then I have nothing to say.... |
..... | From: thamizhvaanan on Sun Dec 2 10:27:57 2007. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Dec 2 10:32:05 2007. |
| From: Ramakrishna on Sun Dec 2 10:48:12 2007. |
| thamizhvaanan wrote: |
| hi |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 11:20:09 2007. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: |
| my point:
BALA illai endraal vikram & surya illai |
| From: ajithfederer on Sun Dec 2 13:29:45 2007. |
Insane posts like this go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere....
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta
Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa |
| From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 13:36:27 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: | ||
This particular post is fcukkin unneccessary........What kind of a moderation is going on here.... Insane posts like go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere....
|
| From: vasanth2006 on Sun Dec 2 13:59:00 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| even a dumbo like Ravikrishna was used superbly by Selvaraghavan - thats a good director....... |
| From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 14:37:37 2007. |
| ajithfederer wrote: | ||
This particular post is fcukkin unneccessary........What kind of a moderation is going on here.... Insane posts like this go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere....
|
| From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 18:23:14 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
You may have become a fan of him after Dhil. But when did vikram get a break in his career? Sethu illattiyum vikram periaya aala vanthriuppar appadinnu sollreenga. We don't know for sure, but we all know what actually happened. Sethu released and he become a star, atha vida enna proof venum? |
| From: thamiz on Sun Dec 2 19:56:49 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||||
Tell me a few movies where his performances on par with Sethu/Pithamagan before Sethu I will take my words back. |
| From: joe on Sun Dec 2 22:27:40 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Sun Dec 2 23:48:00 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| Tamizh,
First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே! |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:03:28 2007. |
| Quote: |
| Paramakudi is a important town of Ramanathapuram district, Tamilnadu, India. Few notable persons from this place are famous Indian actors Kamal Haasan, Cheran,royal rajesh kumar, Ramachandra Prabu,Director Bala[Sethu,Pitha Magan] and Vikram.The River Vaigai flows through Paramakudi on its way to the bay of bengal. Agricultural Research Station is located here. Sadiq the Great man of India studied here only. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:13:18 2007. |
| Pras wrote: |
|
naan munnadi sonnatha edit pannittu, unga paatukku pesittu pona enna arutham ?
REPEAT. SETHU-KE APPURAM VIKRAM-KU BREAK KIDAKALA !!!!!! IN FACT, ADHUKKU APPURAM VINNUKKUM MANNUKKUM ENNU ORU LOOSU PADAM PANNINAARU !!! APPAVE CARRER OVER AAKI IRUKKUM ... BUT THEN CAME DHIL (WITH OR WITHOUT SETHU THIS MOVIE WAS TO COME) AND VIKRAM BECAME THE STAR HE IS NOW !!!! AND I AM SURE; AND THIS IS MY PERSONAL VIEW, EVEN WITHOUT DHIL HE WOULD HAVE BECOME A GREAT STAR BECAUSE OF HIS HARD WORK .... IF, NOW VIKRAM SAYS THAT BALA GAVE HIM THE BREAK; THAT ONLY SHOWS HIS GREAT HEART !!!! THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING ... AND DON'T BLAME FANS LIKE ME FOR SUPPORTING HIM |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:14:13 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| Tamizh,
First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே! |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:16:42 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Yes, joe. He is from Theni district. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:18:23 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| You never know who will shine when. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| Vikram seems to be a talented actor consistently -whether it s maja or anniyan or gemini he has done good. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:19:36 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| I take it as a challenge, judge!
Prove it!!! Just your statments are not enopugh for sure |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:19:45 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||||
May be in the future but we all know the past.
still you are quoting movies after Sethu |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:20:27 2007. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 3 0:21:47 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| Paramakudi is a important town of Ramanathapuram district, Tamilnadu, India. Few notable persons from this place are famous Indian actors Kamal Haasan, Cheran,royal rajesh kumar, Ramachandra Prabu,Director Bala[Sethu,Pitha Magan] and Vikram. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:01:46 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Tell me what you will do if I prove. Because I knew it for sure. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:03:00 2007. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Hmmm not sure about this. Cheran is from Melur, Madurai District. Remmber reading so in the autobiographical series he wrote in Vikatan a few years back. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 3 1:14:12 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:52:30 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:57:31 2007. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
|
Anyway, why all this research ? |
| From: equanimus on Mon Dec 3 2:02:43 2007. |
| From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 2:31:58 2007. |
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:49:53 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
I beg to disagree, Joe. I strongly believe he is a relative of Ramanatha sEthupathy ( a ruler of Ramanathapuram Kingdom). Bala is maRavar (thEvar) community which is not in madurai district. Bharathiraja belongs to kaLLar community of course from madurai suburbs (piRamalaikkaLlarkaL). Sorry to get into the details of caste- I beleive it was warranted here! |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:51:11 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
One more achivement from Bala |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:52:15 2007. |
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:52:31 2007. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||||
Yes, It is indeed an achievement by Bala
btw, Kamal kooda bala padam pannanumnnu sila per aasa pattaangalae... Antha padathukkum ippadi oru comment vantha, athvum bala voda achievement ah ! |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:55:12 2007. |
anyway, leave it Joe
)
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:56:41 2007. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
|
Aarya nadippu ungalukku pudikkaatha thaalaa ?? |
| From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 2:59:58 2007. |
| From: kamath on Mon Dec 3 2:59:59 2007. |
| From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 3:03:19 2007. |
| kamath wrote: |
| nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila.
Paavam arya. |
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 3:04:39 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 3:09:49 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
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| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 3:12:46 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Dec 3 6:36:23 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Aarya Is a good Actor IMHO (Kalaba Kaathlan & Pattiyal) |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 7:48:59 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| Prove it or shut up!!! |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 7:52:46 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||
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| From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 7:54:43 2007. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||
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| From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 7:56:47 2007. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i think, this mite be Arya's last movie |
He has done good job both in Arinthum Ariyamalum and Pattiyal. He hasn't worked with any good directors except Vishnu and now Bala. So better luck after next time | From: leosimha on Mon Dec 3 8:13:25 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja |
| From: Messi on Mon Dec 3 9:36:38 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 10:24:31 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
I am damn sure about it, . |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 10:28:03 2007. |
| Quote: |
| I have a cousin who got an invitation from Bala when he got married...
Wait I will call him and talk to him and get back to you!!! People say Kh was born in Paramakudi but that is not TRUE either!! |
| From: c4ramesh on Mon Dec 3 10:31:23 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:10:14 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:13:27 2007. |
| c4ramesh wrote: |
| thamiz, tension agadinga...... |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:15:02 2007. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| Adadaa Inga Oru Jaathi Kalavaram Nadakuthey |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 11:45:14 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| selva:
If judge says, u r (selva) born and brought up bangalore, how would you react? You may say to your friends that u r from bangalore as sivakasi is too small to describe. |
Had I written my autobiography in AV and if I had mentioned that I was born and brought up at sivakasi, then obviously everyone will think that I am from sivakasi. Again, it is related to my native. what I say is the one that will get counted. In that case, for others they will have my AV series as the proof.. Had I lied there, we cannot blame it on others .. Right 
who knows..
| Quote: |
| Bala is maRavar (thEvar) community which is not in madurai district. |
maRavar community Madurai layae illa apadingureengala
I am sure he will have an answer or you can get some reply | From: RC on Mon Dec 3 11:47:53 2007. |
| From: rocketboy on Mon Dec 3 11:59:10 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||||
Yeah keep saying that NONSENSE! |
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 12:06:28 2007. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| If you think that he is not from that location and if u have ur own source, then I think we should either blame it on AV or Bala ..
May be bala kanja adichu etho sonnatha AV publish panni irukkalaam who knows..
Judge ithukku enna pannuvaar or even JOE for that matter |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:20:52 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||
As usual ,I second you. I am not sure what is bala's ancestors native ..But I am sure I have seen in Vijay Tv ,Bala talking in front of his house where he born and brought up ,he introduced his family ,relatives and it is a village near Periya kuLam,he mentioned. For info about Bala ,Tamizh may beleive his/her cousin more than bala..But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry |
Let me double chck my notion and give the information.
| From: joe on Mon Dec 3 12:31:24 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| I dont believe Kh is born in paramakudi as he himself claims either. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:33:50 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:36:18 2007. |
| RC wrote: |
| Thamizh: tension thaNikka PP-ai etti paakuradhu |
| From: RC on Mon Dec 3 12:59:09 2007. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 3 22:13:28 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| Joe, Kh was born in Ramanathapuram, then when he was little moved to paramakudi as his dad moved threre. But his bithplace is Ramanathapuram. I have never seen anywhere it is said that way. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:36:07 2007. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
Yes, if im not wrong, he was born in Ramanathapuram palace (anyone who has seen Vijay TV's Thalaivar special may confirm this) |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:40:27 2007. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| I just lookup up Bala's autobiographical series he wrote in Anandha Vikatan.
Narayana Thevanpatti (near Kambam) is his native. His family later moved to Vadipatti. Later, his parents gave him up for adoption to his aththai, with whom he moved to Periyakulam. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:48:38 2007. |
| joe wrote: |
| But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry |
| From: RC on Mon Dec 3 23:19:00 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 23:23:39 2007. |
| RC wrote: |
| thamiz: What makes you think that what is written in directorbala.com is by Bala himself? Isn't it possible that the site is hosted by a third party or his fan? |
| From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 4 1:48:11 2007. |
| From: joe on Tue Dec 4 4:22:46 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
The following is also (born in madurai) said by bala and which one is correct?? AV or the following directorbala.com??? http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html |
| From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 10:37:43 2007. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
I would prefer video ,in which Bala talked ,than a written statement available in website or magazine. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 10:44:29 2007. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
|
btw, I dont understand the point here maRavar community Madurai layae illa apadingureengala |
| From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 4 14:14:19 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
|
However, I will give the information I gather later whether you care to read or not, it hardly matters to me. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 15:36:18 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
I hope you comeback with your answer. I want to see your face when you are admitting that I am right |
| From: kamath on Wed Dec 5 2:02:31 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 5 2:45:40 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| First of all, I am NOT a COWARD like you to hide the FACTS when it comes against my statements!
Second of all, I know "some minds" which will keep saying some crap of what they believe as right is always right, even if my "reseach" "efforts" and "results" and the facts favor me! And STOP provoking me, right here! |
| From: thilak4life on Wed Dec 5 2:49:30 2007. |
| kamath wrote: |
| Judge,
Thamizh always make personal attacks. He never replies to the topic. |
)| From: equanimus on Wed Dec 5 3:24:23 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
Name Date of Birth 11-07-1966 Plac e of Birth Madurai http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html Which one is correct???
narayana thevanpatti Kambam or madurai?? |
) What I had noted down was a verbatim translation of what he had written over there about his childhood. In one of the first few pages, he writes that his "pUrvIgam" is Narayan Thevanpatti ("Kambam arugE," he adds). And, then he talks about how his family moved to Vadipatti as his dad (who worked in a bank) was transferred to a branch over there. And, then he mentions about how his aththai adopted him and he moved to Periyakulam with her.
| From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:39:17 2007. |
| equanimus wrote: |
|
Thamiz, Uh, I wasn't refuting your claim or anybody else's. I just noted down what he had written over there. (I'm a trivia-monger, you see. ) What I had noted down was a verbatim translation of what he had written over there about his childhood. In one of the first few pages, he writes that his "pUrvIgam" is Narayan Thevanpatti ("Kambam arugE," he adds). And, then he talks about how his family moved to Vadipatti as his dad (who worked in a bank) was transferred to a branch over there. And, then he mentions about how his aththai adopted him and he moved to Periyakulam with her.
This need not even be the "complete information" about him as it's limited by what he included and what he didn't. I didn't talk specifically about his place of birth or any such detail, precisely because I am not aware of it! Narayana Thevanpatti 'nnu oru ooru irukkunnE enakku theriyAdhu, leave aside which district it belongs to. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 5 8:44:59 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
|
இப்போ என் "நொஷன்" ஐ கட்டாயம் நான் டபுள்-செக் பண்ணனும்!
எனக்கு மதுரை மற்றும் ராம்னாட் புறநகர்ப்பகுதியில் நண்பர்கள் உண்டு. அவர்கள் பாலா வை தன் சொந்தக்காரர்கள் என்று சொல்லத்துடிப்பார்கள், கொஞ்சம் விசாரித்துவிட்டு வர்றேன். |
| From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:47:53 2007. |
| From: Sanjeevi on Wed Dec 5 8:48:05 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:50:15 2007. |
| Sanjeevi wrote: |
| Athan Ananda Vikatan-la Bala thannoda sarithiram ezhuthinare, athula avar pirathna idam varalaiya |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Dec 5 9:00:18 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
|
எனக்கு தெரிய சிலர் பெர்த் சான்றிதழ் வாங்கயிலே பிறந்த ஊரையே மாற்றியுள்ளனர்!!!! |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Dec 5 9:02:07 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 11:54:10 2007. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| தமிழ்,
பாலா பத்தி வேற ஏதாவது செய்தி இருக்கா ? |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 6 13:52:44 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| ரொம்ப அவசரப்பட்டா எப்படி? பொறுமை. 4-6 வருடத்துக்கு பிறகு கூட பதில் வரலாம்! |
| From: thamiz on Thu Dec 6 14:26:50 2007. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
thamiz, enna unga cousinkku fone pottachcha illa innum line kidaikaliyaa? |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 6 14:54:02 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| Let me be very honest with you, EVEN if I call my COUSIN and get the information- if it favors what I claimed-, I know you will read the SAME STORY that you believe in AV and make fun of me like you guys did before.
GO BACK and READ those comments by you and your friends! So, do you think I will ever come back with any information as my cousin says, ever again, knowing that what kind of people I interact wtih now?! If you think like that you are a FOOL! You dont seem to know the "quality" of people with whom you intereact with! So, I suggest you to stop this discussin right here. And right now, let it be like he is from periyakulam or kambam or madurai or whatsoever, and that my notion was wrong! Take care! |
| From: app_engine on Tue Dec 11 17:42:23 2007. |
| From: RC on Tue Dec 11 18:03:05 2007. |
| From: thamiz on Sat Dec 15 21:13:16 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 16 2:22:27 2007. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| ஜட்ஜ், ஜோ மற்றும், ஈகுவானிமஸ்!!!
இதுவரைக்கும் விசாரித்ததில் என்னுடைய "நோஷன்" தவறு என்று தெரிகிறது |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Dec 16 3:13:18 2007. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:07:33 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 3:11:28 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:17:10 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| I think MADDY posted about this months back. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 3:20:36 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 3:20:40 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 3:30:53 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||||
Padam odavenamaa |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:53:34 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Padam odavenamaa |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 4:02:56 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request |
- tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga .........
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:12:52 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||
i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga .........
Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews |
A film with killing scenes shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting. 
I also heard the film has its moments of necrophilia. Not sure.. | From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:18:33 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||
i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga .........
Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 4:20:32 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||||||
I don't think it's about promoting cannabilism. A film with killing shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting. |
.........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 11 4:23:59 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||||||
thilak - for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:24:28 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:28:51 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||
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| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:29:19 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||||||
thilak - for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... |
EKBI| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:31:15 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context ..
Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified . |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:31:18 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
|
Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:32:26 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:32:33 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context ..
Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified . |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:33:02 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| Sethu vikram really doesn't do anything wrong to harm the society ... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:34:55 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||||||
So, Hero-va thappa kamikkaradhu innum periya thappu thaane? |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:36:13 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
His was shown as a adavadi /arrogant student leader and I don't think anywhere it was justified. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:36:32 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: | ||||
Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch.... |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:37:46 2008. |
As far as Bala films go, I'm a big fan of his narrative. I don't think realism is his forte (per se). He believes in creativity, and scripts his own fictional characters (sketching with guidance from reality, but he doesn't ape reality), presented in a fascinating depiction of the backdrop (From Rameshwaram in Nanda to the lust forest/Ganja fields in Pithamagan)| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:37:53 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| Aaana manushana manushane thingara oru character a engalaala hero va ethukka mudiyathu... |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:37:55 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||||
OK.Heroine-na hero-va kathalikanum ..duet paadanum ..ozukkamana ponna irukkanum ..ithaana unga ethirpaarppu |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 4:38:55 2008. |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:39:43 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Athu pathi padam vantha piragu pesalam ..ippave assumption-la pesa mudiyathu. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:39:56 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid... |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:40:37 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
Ungalukku oodakudathunnu ennaM Enakku odanum-nnu ennam. |
(Even before the release.. if it happens )| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:42:00 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
So, you agree with the change in climax (Even before the release.. if it happens ) |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:42:44 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| ella padathilum happy ending kudutha ok, aana sad climax kudutha ok illiya? |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:48:24 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
|
Ella padathulayum sad ending kudutha he is easily predictable.. Thats what I mean.. once in a while its ok... |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:50:34 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| I didn't talk about climax change ..Please go back and chk what statement of yours i quoted. |
aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:51:00 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
|
Ella padathulayum sad ending kudutha he is easily predictable.. Thats what I mean.. once in a while its ok...[/]quote] Motham vanthirukkurathe 3 padam thaan |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:52:57 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
hmm.. Atleast I was making that related to the climax change. Judge said that bala doesn't do that normally (bending to producer's wish). I justified it by telling that film should run in the box office. naan oda koodathunnu nenacha, athe climax ah vaikka solli iruppen
& Yaa.. I don't want this film to win aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing
namma vimarsagargalukku therindha ore vaartha "I liked the way it was meant to be" .. like killing a couple, beating a BPO employee etc |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:53:37 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
|
3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:54:37 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
hmm.. Atleast I was making that related to the climax change. Judge said that bala doesn't do that normally (bending to producer's wish). I justified it by telling that film should run in the box office. naan oda koodathunnu nenacha, athe climax ah vaikka solli iruppen
& Yaa.. I don't want this film to win aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing
namma vimarsagargalukku therindha ore vaartha "I liked the way it was meant to be" .. like killing a couple, beating a BPO employee etc |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:55:01 2008. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:56:40 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Ada neenga vera Padatha ellarum appreciate panna venaama |
Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen.| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:00:29 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
Selva, If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success. |
FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything. | From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:01:17 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:02:27 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:03:25 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen. |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:05:43 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: | ||||||||
Nothing like that.. Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:06:30 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Unmai thaan.. Athukku ethukku sirikkanum. I infact posted against the *climax change*. that was one of the bad changes.. Even Mugavari change was good. I never said "Padam enakku odanum, athanaala producer sonna vudanae, naramaamisam thingira scene ah eduthiranum" etc etc
Ippo naan ethukkaga sirikka |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:08:25 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| 3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:08:31 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:08:44 2008. |
| Quote: |
| ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax . |
If I am not wrong, many expected Ajith to marry trisha and become a police.. Athaa thaan naan bash pannunaen.
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:09:21 2008. |
| Maddy wrote: |
| Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... Rolling Eyes |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:09:23 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||||||||||
point
Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:10:02 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
You sounded like bala keep sad ending climaxes to get pesudo -appreciation (Pls refer your previous post) ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax . |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:11:34 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
You mean..The sad one or the changed one If I am not wrong, many expected Ajith to marry trisha and become a police.. Athaa thaan naan bash pannunaen.
And I am against artificial climaxes.. be it AL VIJAY or BALA |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:11:36 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||
Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:13:01 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:13:17 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine. |
Ithula enna aacharyam. Pras knows very well how much we were against Pithamagan We weren't much against sethu or nanda.
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:14:41 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| compare that to Nandha - y did surya's mom think he shuld die??? i thot it was somewhat forced/"thinikka paattadhu"........ |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:14:47 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:16:04 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| I also feel that some of Bala's "twists" are extremely contrived but i like the intensity in his films.
However, im not sure about the surandal part. All film-makers make money by suranding the audience emotions/intellect or whatever. oru padathula romance, oru padathula revenge, escapist fantasy, loss, fear, laughter etc... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:18:10 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Ithula enna aacharyam. Pras knows very well how much we were against Pithamagan We weren't much against sethu or nanda.
Infact our own sakalakalavallavar termed pithamagan as a crap. naanga mattum illeengovv (read it in goundar style) intha list la |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:18:50 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:19:34 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| I mean the sad one .. Kreedom-la sad climax-a makkal appreciate pannalainnu aathanga patteenga ..bala padathula sad climax iruntha appreciation vaangurathukkaga pannurarnnu sollureenga ..eppadi ? |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:23:18 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
|
But pithamagan la vara sad ending maari 100 padathukku bala vachalum appreciate pannura kootam irukku. These days those movies can very well go on to become blockbusters.. We are not for those films.. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:23:23 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Everyone can't be put in this. If then I can rate the surandal of Perarasu << than Bala.. Correct me if I am wrong |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:23:29 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:23:46 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| So you liked Sethu and Nanda ,but hate PM ..so what ? One disappointing movie cannot be a reason to wish bala to fail for ever.
Even I liked only Sethu and PM ,not Nanda. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:25:41 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
Again opinion differs. IMO ,Pithamagan Climax is much much better than Kreedom Climax . |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:26:20 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
I think they are better than other directors in the tamil field. They haven't done any skin show in their movies for *surandal*, not even a navel scene. Show me any other big director who has done it, be it songs, scenes, they are clean so far. So their surandal is much better than others' surandal. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:28:49 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:29:45 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:30:19 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| mm.. well.. ah...
indha madhiri vishayam ellam sabai la okkandhu deep-a discuss panni dhaan oru sumugamana mudivukku vara mudiyum. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:30:54 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| see, the surandal that these 2 do is of a greater impact - they disturb you deeper, which is what i'm questioning.............i mean, it is disturbing to see some things , being born as a human......dont we see newsreaders warning "these pictures might be disturbing" before showing a accident image/mass killings images?? when u r making movie, u do have a social responsibility - dont call this a farce, u r to an extent shaping up minds or atleast changing their direction of thinking........so, they should be little more careful in depicting raw emotions......a paruthiveeran climax wud have been shown suggestively in a BR movie like a guy chopping off the tender coconut.......that is what i'm looking for.......anyways, i know, they have to be raw to sell in tamil now....... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:31:16 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| You are comfortable with his *TYPE* of films. We are not and we don't like the IMAGINATIVE WORLD, CHARACTERS, SAD ENDING, RAW HANDLING etc. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:31:50 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
|
mm.. well.. ah... indha madhiri vishayam ellam sabai la okkandhu deep-a discuss panni dhaan oru sumugamana mudivukku vara mudiyum. I'm only reminded of that Gaunder-Senthil comedy "ippadiyum sollalaam, neenga solra madhiriyum sollalaam, indha ivaru solra maadhiriyum sollalaam " |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:34:20 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:34:46 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
What do you mean by I am comfortable with his TYPE ? Do you mean I am enjoying the cruelty and arrogance and sad ending ? NO ..I don't take any lesson from these kind of movies ..I just take it as I am watching somebody's narration .That is all ..I only care whether the climax has impact or not ,not serach for Climax is apt for my personal preference or my way of ending the issue.. FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:35:30 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSzCtJemFvw - indha madhiri oru sabhailiya??? |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 11 5:35:55 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:37:10 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| ..I just take it as I am watching somebody's narration .That is all ..I only care whether the climax has impact or not ,not serach for Climax is apt for my personal preference or my way of ending the issue.. |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:41:22 2008. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:43:04 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| I like violent movies in english but when it comes to tamil I dont accept them... I am a big fan of the SAW series and at times I had thot why dont directors in tamil make movies like this... But somehow when I see it on screen in Tamil movies I dont like it.. I myself dont have an answer for it... |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:46:39 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| vali-ya valiya kaamikkaradhum, azhukka zhukka kaamikkaradhum thappilla IMO. In my book, it has to connect with me and not jar. It may shock, inspire awe, be revolting or repulsive but as long as i feel it doesnt jar my movie-watching process and its "genuine" (whatever that means!), im fine with it. In fact, thats how it should be, for me! |
.......as long as it makes sense - its good.........but enakku PV climax romba "jar"-iduchhe .......i have never skipped my dinner after watching a movie like i did for PV .......maybe it was repulsion and not jarring......
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:48:15 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| If u are just happy with narration, then somebody is happy with perarasu's narration. His ending etc. But not all expect narration alone. |
I don't have problem with his climax ..happy ending ..happy ..But I don't find anything interesting throughout the movie .
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:48:39 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Maddy,
Apart from the coconut thing, Pazhaya directors oda movies la intensity kurayaadu illaya |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:50:01 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
joe... padichadhum unmaiyilaye sirippu vandhuvittadhu |
enna pannurathu ..sila neram uNmaiya solli thane aaganum | From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:53:11 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| true .......as long as it makes sense - its good.........but enakku PV climax romba "jar"-iduchhe .......i have never skipped my dinner after watching a movie like i did for PV .......maybe it was repulsion and not jarring......
when ppl. like GM, Vishnu, selvaraghavan are tapping the first layers of human emotions,. bala/ameer have sneaked into the second....... |
Prob IMAGINATIVE narration, events or "it meant to be like that" etc| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:54:48 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| ]instead of 2.15 hours mokkai with very good climax for last 15 mins. |
.....i think its personal preference joe.......i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten
- cos its closer to my heart when see ppl. of my color/ethinicty on screen......| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:55:05 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| entha directorsa sollreenga? |
Prob, *without sensationalism*| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:56:54 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| u meant Sivaji and CM??? .....i think its personal preference joe.......i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten
kalyasi, i have a example - i perosonally prefer mallu movies than english movies - cos its closer to my heart when see ppl. of my color/ethinicty on screen...... |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:58:52 2008. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 6:09:52 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
u meant Sivaji and CM???.. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 6:23:16 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Directors like BR who prefer the intensity to be in the dialogues like Vedha puthithu etc Prob, *without sensationalism* |
| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 6:28:59 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| We are in the 2000s selva, how long can we see the coconut chopping? Aren't we adults and can't we take the movies as movies? BR's movies are so unreal in many places, I still believe PV outscores any BR movies in nativity. I don't think Ameer/Bala are into sensationalism. |
may I know| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 6:47:52 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
I was about to ask this question in general here |
) Personally, I like Bala's darker themes as much as Mani Ratnam's optimism! Who is to say that he shouldn't render the downtrodden (socially, and psychologically - though I've never appreciated Chiththan's characterization, and still stand by it) of our time, place and classes? If someone says it didn't work for me, fine. But comparing to crass like Perarasu, and um, mentioning him with the likes of Ameer, Gautam menon, VV, etc is too much...three much
It's too Hip ya )| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 7:20:24 2008. |
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| Moreover, there's a detachment that cuts across classes. That's why the twists in Nanda/Pithamagan would appear worse than Sethu, the latter is essentially bourgeoisie, and to my mind, it's the only Bala film which had a "twist" after "twist" (in a more manipulative & cinematic way), the other two films were about underclas in unique situations/positions, the narrative doesn't take the audience for a cheap ride/thrill - this is precisely where Bala handles with care. |
Am I missing something here ? What kind of THRILL one would get when surya dances with Simran.. Or simran dancing with Surya. Is that what we call as *cinematic + Manipulative* that cuts across the elite from the middle class. Again, What kind of difference is there when the same is handled by Selvaragavan in a film like 7G ? A dance like "January maadham" / "Neruppu koothadikkuthu" that cuts across classes. The lover dies in an accident and the guy lives in his own world with her. A kind of love pshycho. That is also "cinematic + Manipulative" .. Correct me if am wrong or sound bourgeoisie. so, what kind of difference it makes for a person like Selva and Bala...
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| Sometimes a very foreseeable cruelty of life is given a stepmotherly treatment by our fellow hubbers - that the writer(who sketched them in the first place) is blamed to be manipulative regardless of how he has crafted it. |
We aren't against the cruelties that are portrayed AS IT IS if not in the same way they are taking place. Should we have to portray romance in terms of raw sucking and -u-c-k-ing as well or more so in the level of an elite audience with everything wrapped under a mattress ?
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And, I would never know why Kaadhal escapes(I like the film myself), one could make it sound worse. Perhaps because it's a more relatable Intercast love story, with all desirable/easier tropes of manipulation! Should a film always have flimsiness of the likes of Gautam menon? Or shoddy in pretense of grandeur like Shankar? Or, the irregularity and naivety in Selva raghavan's? Or, trying to ape reality, and boring them like Thankar bachchan? (Indha madhiri pala kostins-lam varudhu ) |
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| Personally, I like Bala's darker themes as much as Mani Ratnam's optimism! But comparing to crass like Perarasu, and um, mentioning him with the likes of Ameer, Gautam menon, VV, etc is too much...three much |
directors term that as "commercial elements". I don't see much diff in these two things I never compared him with Perarasu. But was stressing the same thing that you refer to city crowd enjoying 300, village crowd enjoying 9 Rs nottu & elite crowd defending pithamagan
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| And, none of the Bala films has contrived the audience, as much as Paruthiveeran, or even Kalloori in recent times - the "twists" were manipulative and uncalled for - the film themselves weren't rewarding in any case. (btw I've never had an issue with the depiction of violence, rape, gore, etc. Once again, our city crowd would love Sin city/300, not Pithamagan,etc It's too Hip ya ) |
Pithamagan did it. Few manipulate it in the end. Bala manipulates it in the middle. That is the difference. If he crafts it like he wants, then naan kadavul would have got released billion years before.
| From: dinesh13284 on Mon Feb 11 8:13:47 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 8:44:27 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| May I know what do you mean by "cinematic + manipulative" Am I missing something here ? What kind of THRILL one would get when surya dances with Simran.. Or simran dancing with Surya. Is that what we call as *cinematic + Manipulative* that cuts across the elite from the middle class. Again, What kind of difference is there when the same is handled by Selvaragavan in a film like 7G ? A dance like "January maadham" / "Neruppu koothadikkuthu" that cuts across classes. The lover dies in an accident and the guy lives in his own world with her. A kind of love pshycho. That is also "cinematic + Manipulative" .. Correct me if am wrong or sound bourgeoisie. so, what kind of difference it makes for a person like Selva and Bala... |
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We aren't against the cruelties that are portrayed AS IT IS if not in the same way they are taking place. Should we have to portray romance in terms of raw sucking and -u-c-k-ing as well or more so in the level of an elite audience with everything wrapped under a mattress ? |
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AFAIK, The only GM films that was FLIMSY a lot was Minnalae. Yet, it was enjoyable for the entertainment. Other movies from him also belong to semi- bala case. He draws a line in the right place. Coming to Selva and Bala, what kind of diff it makes b/w a character like Kokki kumar (in the second half of PP) and Sithan in Pithamagan. Both are same. But kokki kumar in the first half.. His role wasn't completely irregular or imaginary character like sithan. |
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| I was stressing on "I like this narration", "It was meant to be and I shouldn't find reasons for the same" etc.. |
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| If that is the case, A MASALA HERO WINNING OVER 30 ODD should be viewed in the same angle directors term that as "commercial elements". I don't see much diff in these two things |
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| I never compared him with Perarasu. But was stressing the same thing that you refer to city crowd enjoying 300, village crowd enjoying 9 Rs nottu & elite crowd defending pithamagan |
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| Few manipulate it in the end. Bala manipulates it in the middle. That is the difference. |
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| If he crafts it like he wants, then naan kadavul would have got released billion years before. |
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| The same question I ask : Why the elite crowd bashes a film like 300 compared to Pithamagan or Sithan character vs 300 guys |
Elite crowd laavvvvv 300. Only a minority of crowd defend/like Pithamagan in the cyber world. they could hardly be called "elite", and the film is anything but that. They rather could be termed "masochistic" if they liked the film for its poignance. Or, perhaps they just liked the seamless narrative which offers them a rewarding experience. for starters, the blogs would be the place to estimate the percentage. As a fan, I know the respect he garners. He's underrated for sure...| From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 9:15:06 2008. |
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| First, I wasn't talking of songs, comedy, tracks etc. It was with respect to "twists" that CR had hinted in an earlier post. To me, "Sethu" had more of the twists that came out of nowhere, thus it's more cinematic and manipulative than the other two films, |
The primary twist is sethu sent to the asylum on two occasions. (one in the middle and the other at the end). This I would term as a twist. I am not sure whether sethu rescuing the girl's sister etc will come under these kind of twists.
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| I don't see the need to defend the "repugnance" when a Siththan is shown in a bad plight (but the director doesn't make a meal of his condition), Nanda's mother and her indifference to her son is again repugnant. |
the adjective fits well to SJS films too. He also creates artificial characters that live like a child in the day and man in the night. Didn't we criticize the same ? I don't know why I should view both these things seperately
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| To put it simply, he doesn't define a character A, who behaves like B or at times, C - it's rather coherent, and understandably so |
Is it the reason for Sithan (A man like animal) dancing along with Simran while reacting sharply to laila. Sangeetha too likes Surya. if we can accept a man-animal sithan sharp reaction to laila - surya relationship, I am not sure why he shouldn't do it for Karunas, Manobala etc It is rather vague and the character does transform in the midway a lot unlike Kokki kumar whose life changes as he GROWS. Again, reaction from Nandha's mother for several sequences. They were totally confusing and the flaw with bala's characterisation (atleast for me) is the total confusion that surrounds his characters. They are neither complete nor empty. I really don't know whether a mother like her will remain like that in all the situations.
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| even I did. But it's not simply because Siththan is imaginary, that it should be ruled out. Siththan is a man-animal, and it stays that way, not confusing around like KK's, sometimes you get the feeling that Kokki has a MPD |
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| They are two different statements. I made the first one, and I did say Bala is creative with his characterizations than merely aping realism - True I did. But I didn't say one shouldn't find reasons, etcetra about the characters, and their situations. |
Narration alone is not a movie. If that is the case BagyaRaj is a way better director than Bala (I think you don't like BagyaRaj). not everyone like narration alone. Few things ought to be given a reason. Otherwise, I can create artificial characters that can save the world through their acts. I don't think it fits well here
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| I haven't seen the elite crowd defending Pithamagan, Nevaire. Anyway, I was hitting sarcastically at our hypocrisy in accepting violence factor in western films, and not our own. Same with nudity, kissing, etc. |
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| By any chance, you refer the way Bala "starts" with a manipulation, like say, Siththan's character? |
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| As a fan, I know the respect he garners. He's underrated for sure... |
| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 11 9:17:13 2008. |
Feeling so jealous | From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 9:20:48 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| Thilak and Selva,
inthaLavu lengthy post paNNuRa aLavukku office'la time kedekkuthA ? Feeling so jealous |
| From: jaiganes on Mon Feb 11 12:54:15 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:27:08 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Could you please explain more on the twists in Sethu ? AFAIK, Sethu had less twists compared to nandha or Pithamagan (First time viewing). The primary twist is sethu sent to the asylum on two occasions. (one in the middle and the other at the end). This I would term as a twist. I am not sure whether sethu rescuing the girl's sister etc will come under these kind of twists. |
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You are right. It is *repugnant*. A totally irrelevant one. the adjective fits well to SJS films too. He also creates artificial characters that live like a child in the day and man in the night. Didn't we criticize the same ? I don't know why I should view both these things seperately |
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| Is it the reason for Sithan (A man like animal) dancing along with Simran while reacting sharply to laila. Sangeetha too likes Surya. if we can accept a man-animal sithan sharp reaction to laila - surya relationship, I am not sure why he shouldn't do it for Karunas, Manobala etc |
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| It is rather vague and the character does transform in the midway a lot unlike Kokki kumar whose life changes as he GROWS. |
The character's compassion is unravelled slowly by the director. But Kokki kumar grows, eludes, and finally kids himself, he's not in full control of himself, well he whines in his prison cell (That's why I had joked it to be like MPD) It's more transforming, and irregular with his psychology taking a ride, that's complete opposite of what Siththan is, who doesn't go for a cinematic "recovery".
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| Again, reaction from Nandha's mother for several sequences. They were totally confusing and the flaw with bala's characterisation (atleast for me) is the total confusion that surrounds his characters. They are neither complete nor empty. I really don't know whether a mother like her will remain like that in all the situations.
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| As I said, Kokki's character evolves over time. I didn't like dhanush in that role .. esp the second half. That doesn't mean the character wasn't complete. It is all about "Survivial of the fittest". Something that you find with people living in slums and those who go against the rich or the society, by living their own way of life. -u-cking prostitutes and living with them. Taking away friend's sister who is already engaged. This is atleast something that we can relate to and understand the reasons behind the transformation. But character like sithan and nanda's mother. They are neither complete in their behavior nor clear. It is just that the creator takes the liberty of artificial characters in his movies and just makes everyone believe the same. Not sure whether the larger than life image erected out of heroes in mass movies are lesser than these roles |
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| Narration alone is not a movie. If that is the case BagyaRaj is a way better director than Bala (I think you don't like BagyaRaj). |
I like Bhagyaraj And, no, I think Bala is in more control of his narrative than Bhagyaraj, even if not to bring the eclectic narrative, or the cinematography, framing, to editing. Btw I wouldn't normally bring him to compare with Bala, who still has a long way to go. Ironically, I have a major gourse with Bhagyaraj's badly executed climax, and jammed-up narratives. In spite of all the shortcomings, I do see him as an important filmmaker for his time, and would take him more seriously than just as an entertainer. To me, KB, BR, and Bhagyaraj are equally interesting filmmakers.
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not everyone like narration alone. Few things ought to be given a reason. Otherwise, I can create artificial characters that can save the world through their acts. I don't think it fits well here |
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Yes. I refer to this only. Be it Nandha's mother or Sithan. He starts this and he wants the things to be like that. Can't he create normal characters and portray them well like he did in Sethu ? Ain't this a manipulation. Again, comparing this to SJS (NEW), what is the difference ? |
Bala in spite of not making a meal out of Siththan's character is still criticized. here are many other vital merits of his filmmaking that's ignored, even if you didn't like the characterizations. I couldn't imagine how he's compared with likes of Selva Raghavan, who has just made a film (Pudhupettai) that's worth mentioning against Bala's oeuvre. Moreover, Bala's films grow on you, while Selva's films underwhelm in revisits.
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The *elite crowd* here I referred to - People who just appreciate movies for the lack of few things. Point is simple. We are against *repugnant* created through a set of artificial characters. Be it SJS or 300 director. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:28:59 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Time irukku. But Kai valikkuthu romba.. |
I hub less throughtout the day (comparatively), but when I get time, I try to chip in. | From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:47:54 2008. |
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| If one looks around one would appreciate the fact that life is always morbid and death is the sword of Damocles sure to strike any moment and life is spent happy by just forgetting it. Bala's movies chronicle this aspect and the thing about death is therefore a constant factor in his movies. If someone has seen so much of gloom in his life and finds movies the right medium for expressing it |
That it ends up being the USP of the film. You can't defend that by citing the director's self-expression, can you?| From: Nerd on Mon Feb 11 14:22:31 2008. |
| From: jaiganes on Mon Feb 11 15:39:37 2008. |
| From: vasanth2006 on Mon Feb 11 15:52:18 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... |
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| i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten
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I am damn sure that ammer will come up with some other different kind of story which will shock you......
| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 22:59:30 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| *Asingathukkum", *etharthathukkum* tamil cinema la evvalavu diff nnu enakku therla. |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 11 23:28:04 2008. |
| From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 23:29:54 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Annan thangachinnu sollikittu porvaikkuLLa pugunthukittu irattai artham pesuna athu *Asingam* ,But in Tamil cinema that can be called 'Kudumpathodu Paarkka vendiya padam
Velaikku pora purushan pontattikku oru kiss koduthuttu poratha kaatuna enakku athu *Ethaartham* ,But in Tamil cinema it is *Aabaasam* EKISelva |
I dont like both... Chera overdoes this thing a bit.. it doesnt seem to be natural for Cheran...| From: joe on Mon Feb 11 23:39:14 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
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Chera overdoes this thing a bit.. it doesnt seem to be natural for Cheran... |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 11 23:48:01 2008. |
| vasanth2006 wrote: |
| Ohh...god....ameer directed 3 movies only....in 3 movies, only one movie has bala style ending....that also a real story.....PV is kind of realistic story( I dont see that much realism in some other village stories in the recent times)....Other than that movie, He has given some different kind of movies....You added ameer in the bala catagory....... I am damn sure that ammer will come up with some other different kind of story which will shock you...... |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 11 23:49:58 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| "Unga appan ammavukku muththam kodukkuraan" |
| From: Devar Magan on Mon Feb 11 23:54:30 2008. |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 11 23:59:27 2008. |
| Devar Magan wrote: |
| tamilan kiss panratha paarkka thaanga mudiyaatha pala peru irukaanga. |
| From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:00:46 2008. |
| From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 0:04:15 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
you missed one crucial word...
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| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:04:58 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
wow Joe, you seem to be a big promoter for kissing in thamizh films.
saththyamaa naa paakkala!
some things are better off behind the screens.... |
| From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:15:47 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| what is your problem in it ? |
| From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:17:14 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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Ofcourse ,There are many things better off behind screens ..I know it ..In the name of 'ethartham' ,we cannot show entire first night .. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:19:53 2008. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:29:17 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| That kept aside, are there any contrivances forced in to further the film's theme or abruptly accentuate the viewer's feelings about the film (like in, say, Paruththiveeran, that being the non-Bala film that's often referred to in this discussion)? |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:31:33 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
a little humour helps too. |
| From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 0:32:43 2008. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:33:52 2008. |
| Nerd wrote: | ||
yEn? adhuvum nadakkuRathu dhaanE |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:37:34 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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Oh! ok
As NOV said ,Let me have some humour
Nerd, Entire first night-yaum kaatina 8 hours padam edukkanum ..athaan kaaturathilla..Pothuma |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:39:55 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| yErkanavE kAtrAingaLE. "Bed song", "rain song" - all midnight masala stuff
[adhellaam pappom, paatukku etha madhiri movers and shakers panna adha awardu kuduthu vara verppom... kiss panradhellam paakka mattom. asingam! kashakkum, komattum!] |
| From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:43:07 2008. |
| From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:43:23 2008. |
| From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:44:24 2008. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:44:39 2008. |
| Nerd wrote: |
| naanum adhayE dhAn kEkkuREn.. mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. I am not against showing kisses on screen, btw! |
| From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:45:58 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
ada naan dhaan edhuvume thappilla nu sollitrukken |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:52:18 2008. |
| Nerd wrote: |
| mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. ! |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:54:17 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| just like how some ajith fans want Bala to fail, some kamal fans too always rise up to defend kissing in tamil films.
enna poruththam namakkul indha poruththam. |
| From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 0:56:56 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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Hmm..viLakkam solliye ozhinju ponan Joe |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:58:25 2008. |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 1:20:00 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| I've said this a lot of times before. innoru thadava sollidren. The Sithan character itself is fundamentally unacceptable. To Bala, everything else revolves around that in the film. Actually if i get that mental block off my mind, i have to admit i find the film immensely likeable. |
) about the way the character of Siththan is actually shown on screen -- how he doesn't speak more than five lines etc., but here's in a gist.
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| Secondly, how the hell can one stand watching Layla (both the actress(?) and the character) |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| Thirdly, the Sangeetha - Sithan "relationship" (or whatever little that threatens to take off)... |
| From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 1:34:37 2008. |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 1:47:15 2008. |
| Devar Magan wrote: |
| Equanimus, PR, thilak ...
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| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 2:06:08 2008. |
| From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 2:08:24 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: | ||
Devar Magan, Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.) |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 2:55:41 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| Equanimus,
nalla paaditrundha oru payyan, oru "Wild Child/Man"-a maarradha othukkave mudiyala. I mean, how and why???? That, to me is extremely contrived. And about the Sangeetha-Sithan "track", well, what do you think?
Aang Kaan-a? pogum idam edhuvo? |
| Devar Magan wrote: | ||||
well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts..
no offence meant.. continue writing |
| From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 3:02:01 2008. |
ivvaluvu lengthy posts-a?? leave pottu thaan padikkanum pola.....| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:06:39 2008. |
IF SJS can be attributed for creating such a character in NEW for his own pleasure, then how can we apply a diff rule for Bala whose characters just live in their world of own with his own pleasure pattern (Kanja and all) I was referring to the *IMAGINATION / ARTIFICIAL* characters here.
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Don't u think this is much flawed compared to kokki kumar or even 7G kathir ??
I am not sure whether I have seen a mother like her. But if she is like that, then why should she behave like that in the climax ? That was pretty much confusing for me atleast. BTW, I like Sethu & Nandha
and infact I don't rate it high Not all mani characters are like that.. Atleast in Nayangan, AN, Roja, etc etc. I am referring to the liberty with which Bala escapes by creating a character like Sithan. OTOH, Selva does it through regular rougue like characters that you can easily relate to. Somone who reacts to you cheaply when you enter a slum or enter the lowest level possible to abuse you. Atleast, with selva when he tries to raise above that (like in PP climax) we can conclude it. But with bala's characters, the confusion in the characterisation just makes everyone to assume a reason on their own just like sithan There is not much diff b/w this and SJS living with her lady love in the night and taking classes in the morning.
*Overman Heroism* and that too in SJS films.. . Yaa. May be Ah..Ahh
He had NEW.. just like pithamagan.. Ithula enna shoddy ... start to finish and all | From: joe on Tue Feb 12 3:09:01 2008. |
| From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 3:11:38 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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| From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 12 3:18:14 2008. |
| Nerd wrote: | ||
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| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:24:07 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I guess that is a good sign. more so because he doesn't sugar coat a theme like "Bombay" with a "humma humma" or "kuchi kuchi raakamma". If he makes a movie on that it will be in your face tight slap. He makes his heroes do morbid things. but sometimes dont we feel like going and biting someone's neck for the horrific things they have done. |
| From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 3:25:45 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||||
onnum puriyalaiye |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:28:25 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Annan thangachinnu sollikittu porvaikkuLLa pugunthukittu irattai artham pesuna athu *Asingam* ,But in Tamil cinema that can be called 'Kudumpathodu Paarkka vendiya padam
Velaikku pora purushan pontattikku oru kiss koduthuttu poratha kaatuna enakku athu *Ethaartham* ,But in Tamil cinema it is *Aabaasam* EKISelva |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 12 3:31:32 2008. |
| Thirumaran wrote: | ||||||
Poi office kku rendu naal leave poattuttu vanthu padinga.. Appuram ellaam puriyum |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:32:39 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
I didn't refer Cheran here ..No idea which movie you are refering ..I havn't seen pirivom santhippom.. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 3:33:47 2008. |
| From: ajithfederer on Tue Feb 12 3:42:36 2008. |
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| From: ThalaNass on Tue Feb 12 4:32:58 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| Mods Please ban all the long post hubbers, I say .
Padikaradhukku rendu naal aagum pola irukku |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 4:35:30 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Selva,
சமீபத்துல பின்நவீனத்துவ இலக்கியவாதிகள் எழுதுன புத்தகம் எதுவும் படிச்சீங்களா ? இந்த போடு போடுறீங்க |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 4:38:54 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 5:00:54 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| just like how some ajith fans want Bala to fail, some kamal fans too always rise up to defend kissing in tamil films.
enna poruththam namakkul indha poruththam. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 5:06:28 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Namakku Literature arivu romba kammi. Ennoda ulagam ithula romba sinnathu. Kalki yoda novels (Fictions) la mattumae adangi vittathu. |
Anga Vaanga | From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 5:11:45 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| UngaLukkagave puthu thread aarampichirukken Anga Vaanga |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 11:19:52 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| But at the same time, I have seen them bashing Oram Po too. For few, the jerks within the Auto and side way moves and Pooja's bold move *at that time* makes it a FEEL GOOD FILM.
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| From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 12 11:34:36 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 11:44:43 2008. |
| From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 11:50:21 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
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Finally a particularly bad characterization in a Bala film is said to be no different from SJS, overman heroes - It's like saying failing in statistics major is same as flunking in 8th standard probability paper. |
Agree!| From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 12 11:50:48 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 11:56:25 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| Thilak!
wrt Paruthi Veeran, I would say that there is a director's POV. Long have our directors changed the ending of their films and content to suit every om dick and harry's POV (Tom - producer, Dick - distributor and Harry - Theatre exhibitor). Bala and Ameer, their film making styles are so diverse, yet bring some of their thoughts and feelings to the table. It is the kind of energy and conviction that we were used to in KB and Bharathiraaja (something that Bhagyaraaj never had and will never have). Thats something we have not seen on the filmi scene since Hey Ram. Here is my POV , take it kinda attitude. PV climax makes sense to me if we bear in mind that his life is always doomed as he has made to many enemies and bad friends in a short span, while their enemies might pose a threat to his life, ameer wanted to show that bad company is sure to rob you of your honour no matter how little you are left with. Is he being too judgemental? well yes, why not? It is his thought and he is entitled to that. I am not claiming that PV was the best work, but definitely far better than the run of the mill crap done by leading heroes and start directors. Bala by the same token makes his movies, even the stoutest of his critics cannot deny the ability he has and his craft and skill. He makes 'his' movies and anyone looking at them from the prism of "movies" alone would be able to easily appreciate how he creates characters and settings that enrich the medium. I have never felt the "tightness" with which he covers a character and presents in an arresting fashion. Sure he could make comedy movies or "action" movies, but I would prefer he continues to make "Bala" movies as there are very few people who make the movies they want to make, in the manner they want to. |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:29:14 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| I concur with Thilak about Sethu. I've always thought of it to be a very noticeably manipulative film. Bala sandwiches two different films in the two halves as one. In fact, 7/G Rainbow very much reminded me of Sethu as it drew close to its end. It is thanks to Bala's narrative finesse and sensitivity towards the characters that it doesn't stick out as badly as it should have. Also, the angles of mysticism, foreboding of what's in store in the latter half of the story early on in (the Maheshwari character playing the mad woman at the other end of spectrum, for example) et al. add much to the film.
Well, what's really contrived in Nandhaa? Nandhaa is very underrated, I think it's quite superb, actually. The tragedy of a patricide (truly dealing with an Oedipal situation without just throwing the word around) brought out poignantly. That Maheshwari (the mother) doesn't pay heed to all her son's attempts to reconcile is often pointed out (I'd never understand what "I didn't like that character" would mean when offered as a criticism on the film!) as a flaw, but I think it's handled so well. Now, the mother in that film can't be in usual mother-son terms with her son, can she? Her son killed his own father, her husband. Much worse as she might think he is, his being there did mean quite a lot to her and kept her status quo in a good shape. And, here comes his son -- more importantly, her son -- who finishes his story, her story too to an extent, and asks for his mother's hand. What Nandhaa doesn't find in his mother, he finds in Periyavar, who becomes his surrogate father of sorts. What the film indeed miss in comparison to Bala's other two films was the magic of Raaja. Yuvan did a great job, of course, but it's not hard to see how his score pales in comparison to what Raaja does -- usually, even -- in his scores, and particularly in Sethu and Pithamagan. Regarding Pithamagan, I'd say the story of the ganja landlord and Siththan (and hence Sakthi) is more of a MacGuffin to explore the central theme of the film. It's simplistically handled alright -- we know by interval that the villain has his eye on Sakthi, but the payoff (for taking the MacGuffin, that is) is superb to say the least. Again, what really are the twists that Bala contrives in the film? Surya's death is central for the film. It sets up the culmination of the film. That kept aside, are there any contrivances forced in to further the film's theme or abruptly accentuate the viewer's feelings about the film (like in, say, Paruththiveeran, that being the non-Bala film that's often referred to in this discussion)? |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:34:33 2008. |
| Devar Magan wrote: | ||||
well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts..
no offence meant.. continue writing |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:44:28 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||||
onnum puriyalaiye |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| Mods Please ban all the long post hubbers, I say .
Padikaradhukku rendu naal aagum pola irukku |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| Thilak and Selva... padathukku vasanam ezhuthara maadri ezhuthareenga?? |
| From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 13:26:56 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||||||
Surprising, They are both terse, I haven't thought of theirs to be unnecessarily voluminous. I plead guily though. |
| From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 14:03:47 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
EKSI ! Then what about "Kaana Karunguyilae" in Sethu and Simran dance in Pithamagan. I agree that Bala has edge over Mani in few things. At the same time, ithu konjam diff ah theriyuthu. |
| From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 14:20:08 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Ajith fans want bala to fail. Ya.. Atleast with Naan Kadavul. Again, it won't have a great impact since Bala can direct films till he dies |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 17:13:35 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
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Oh please. I didn't mean to offer it as a criticism of the whole film. Just a "Reaction" if you will. I never liked the part for its acting (there I would blame Bala too), it simply lacked nuance (same would suffice with Pithamagan, although it functioned as a "MacGuffin"). |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 21:54:54 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:32:23 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
wow Joe, you seem to be a big promoter for kissing in thamizh films.
saththyamaa naa paakkala!
some things are better off behind the screens.... |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 22:40:23 2008. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:45:36 2008. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:51:32 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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I am not promoting kissing and I am talking about married couple kissing with true love not some teenagers kissing while rooling ..But when focusing certain parts of women deliberately , etharthame illatha asingamana movements can be taken very normally ,why kissing alone taken as Aapaasam ?
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| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 22:58:02 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: |
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ஜோ: கல்யாணம் ஆகாத காதலர்கள் முத்தம் பரிமாறிக்கொள்வதையும், டீனேஜர்ஸ் செய்வதையும் ஆபாசமாக எடுக்காமலும் இருக்கலாம்! |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:06:38 2008. |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:07:29 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
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முதல்ல கூரை ஏறி கோழி பிடிக்கலாம் ..அப்புறம் வானம் ஏறி வைகுண்டம் போறத பத்தி யோசிக்கலாம் ..இல்லையா! |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 12 23:10:59 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
ஞாநி எதைப்பிடிக்க சொல்கிறார் ஜோ? |
| From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:12:23 2008. |
| From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 23:39:46 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| NOV is being too conservative whereas joe is too liberal!
Am I reading it right? |
| From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 13 0:04:55 2008. |
| From: joe on Wed Feb 13 0:13:59 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: |
| mINdum digression-a? |
| From: NOV on Wed Feb 13 0:30:46 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| மன்னிக்கவும் |
| From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 13 0:45:27 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:19:27 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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Selva, I think you didn't understand his point, if he takes Bombay, there will not be any sugar coats. Sethu and PM are different from Bombay-type themes, aren't they? |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:20:58 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him. |
Why this explanation ? Nice to know YOUR view.
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:36:20 2008. |
| crajkumar_be wrote: | ||
I was the only in the hub as far as i know who bashed Oram Po. And i never objected to the scenes involving "jerks" in the auto and the likes... In fact i welcome such scenes (just that one should never go to such films with parents) to break Tamil cinema from the shackles of prudishness and celebrated/tolerated vulgarity |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:48:15 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
|
Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him. |
He needs good actors and certainly not bad actors like Ajith
and can score better than his previous 3 films :thumbsup;| From: ajithfederer on Wed Feb 13 1:49:10 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 1:49:50 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| though I am not impressed with Arya so far. |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:55:51 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| Selva don't waste ur time and energy talking abt #$%^^&& film's |
and supported him like anything. | From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:57:56 2008. |
| From: joe on Wed Feb 13 1:59:21 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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Were you impressed with Vikram before Sethu or Surya before Nandha? |
| Quote: |
| If you think Arya is so bad in his earlier performances, you will see him with a better performance in this movie. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:07:53 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| What I meant there was : "A song like "Kaana Karunguyilae" & "Kuchi Kuchi Rakkamma" doesn't have much difference if we speak strictly on the theme and the way it is presented. I have even said that he has edge over Mani in few areas if not all |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:12:32 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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I think both films these are different in nature. Bombay was based on a true event and Sethu is not. So I was expecting a closer look at what happened in Bombay something similar on the lines of Schindler's list but the movie was so bad IMO. |
But I was commenting on the songs and the relevant reference| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:21:38 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| I think I missed the last few lines. Yes. If it fails, even ajith couldn't have saved the movie. Now with Arya, if it fails, then Bala himself couldn't have saved the movie |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| He needs good actors and certainly not bad actors like Ajith |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:22:46 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| IMO, Arya is certainly a good actor atleast in Vishnuvardhan films. I was more impressed with his performance in Pattiyal and was least impressed with Bharath. He was more live and natural in that pucca slum rougue role. I don't see him as a bad actor. |
| From: Kalyasi on Wed Feb 13 2:27:48 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
me too. I think both in AA and Pattiyal, he was apt for those characters. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:28:52 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Yes ,Vikram impressed me in Puthiya Mannargal and Ullasam |
I didn't take him seriously before Sethu.
| joe wrote: |
| ..For Surya ,even nanda was not impressive for me ,somehow I started to like him by Pithamagan. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:32:17 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| That is why we are able to see the *Sugar coating* and it wasn't imaginary as well But I was commenting on the songs and the relevant reference |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:32:28 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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My point is it doesn't matter who acts in it (Ajith/Arya), if it fails, it is because of Bala, if it truimphs, it is also because of him. I don't think any actor will make any difference. With Arya in the lead, it has more chances of being a hit. People will come to theatres with no pre-defined notions and will accept it. But placing a star actor in a serious movie is always a bad idea, Bala escaped it luckily. |
Yaaru irunthalum hit / flop aaana bala vaalannu sollureenga. Appo Arya va potta hit aaga neraya chance irukka eppadi ?? TR potta kooda entha expectationum illama thaan varuvaanga. Athukkaaga padam hit aayidumaa... Or SA Rajkumar potta padam hit aaga vaaippu since people wont expect it | From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:34:08 2008. |
| Kalyasi wrote: |
| Especially in AA when he says "Subramani Enna patha illa ithuvaraikum evvalo mariyathayoda pesikkitu iruken - ithuvaraikum naa yaarkittayum ivvalo mariyathaya pesunathu illa" |
yeah, it was a good one.| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:35:45 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Both the lines are Yaaru irunthalum hit / flop aaana bala vaalannu sollureenga. Appo Arya va potta hit aaga neraya chance irukka eppadi ?? : |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:37:23 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| You can't just pick songs alone and compare. We need to see the overall picture/themes of the movies. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:42:59 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Athe Athe !! Itha thaan naanum solluraen. Jai was using those songs to illustrate it. I just wanted to highlight that even bala films have them |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:46:30 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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No, he wrote those lines wrt to the theme. He didn't complain about nila athu vaanaththu mela in Nayagan or January maatham in alaipayuthe. He complained about a movie like bombay having humma humma. If Bala takes a movie on the lines of Bombay, it will have a better treatment and won't have humma humma was his point. |
Yes.. But Sonalikku pathila Simran ah aada vitruppar. I know your hatred towards ManiRathnam. Having said that, I doubt whether Bala could have given that. Let him prove that he is versatile director. Then we can talk on this.| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:55:54 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes.. But Sonalikku pathila Simran ah aada vitruppar. |
Bala maathiri edukka DHILL venum, I don't think Mani has guts.
| selvakumar wrote: |
| I know your hatred towards ManiRathnam. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Let him prove that he is versatile director. Then we can talk on this. |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:58:46 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
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Simranna aada vittalum ganniyama aada vitturuppaar, fully covered I mean. Certainly he will not have songs showing navel and kissing scenes in the bedroom. Bala maathiri edukka DHILL venum, I don't think Mani has guts.
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So, kanniyamaa *sugar coat* pannunaa thappillaennu sollureenga | From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 3:04:04 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Oh !! Ippadi onnu irukkaa. So, kanniyamaa *sugar coat* pannunaa thappillaennu sollureenga |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 3:05:53 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Appuram sonaliykku badhila simranna aada vappaarnnu sonna ennaththa solrathu?? I have high respect for people like Bala/Ameer who never done any skin show to get their money back at the ticket counters. They are one step above than other directors IMO. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 3:13:12 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes. they are one step above in getting their money back if not through skin show |
| From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 13 11:55:51 2008. |
| From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 12:09:39 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
theres a vast difference between english and thamizh films. we do not relate so closely to the former is as we do with the latter. imo, a kiss is too intimate to be shown on the screen. of course proponents will bring in other forms of vulgarity in tamil films for comparison, but that is really not the point. |
| From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 12:13:07 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
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| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 12:28:03 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 12:53:16 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I would suggest people who criticize Bala, to go and read some of the inspirations of Bala from literature and then it would be clear. |
| From: thilak4life on Wed Feb 13 13:45:34 2008. |
| From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Feb 13 13:56:14 2008. |
| From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 16:50:41 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 23:49:35 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| I hope you read them bay! |
| From: thilak4life on Wed Feb 13 23:57:17 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
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| From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 23:59:26 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||||
Insult.. |
| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 0:05:38 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||||||
Bay will clarify that |
| From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 0:09:42 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||||||
Bay will clarify that |
Just peeped to see what's on here . Too many lengthy posts. 
. padikirathukku porumaiyum illa, nEramum illa
It really puts the reader off - no matter what the content is.| From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 0:10:33 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: | ||||||||
In any case, Bay is being too kind of course. |
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 14 0:15:29 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 0:18:58 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||||||||||
I was about to say that, Bay always tries to be nice and diplomatic |
| From: Devar Magan on Thu Feb 14 3:35:42 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||||||||
Just peeped to see what's on here . Too many lengthy posts. . padikirathukku porumaiyum illa, nEramum illa
oRE moochula.. orE paragraphla.. lengthy'a post paNNuRavangaLukku mods oru warning koduthA nallathu It really puts the reader off - no matter what the content is. |
potten.. but, neenga remba strong dose kodukkureenga.. | From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 4:18:30 2008. |
| Devar Magan wrote: | ||||||||||
potten.. but, neenga remba strong dose kodukkureenga.. |
I was just kidding like others and was basically referring to the lengthy posts that are made in just one paragraph. It looks so untidy. I dont know about others but it really puts me off and I skip those posts mostly without reading. Mathapadi, I relish reading the write ups of Prabhu, Thilak, Selva et al. IvargaL sEvai intha hub'ku thEvai IppO enakku time kedekkAthathuthAn pirachinai So couldnt go through most of the discussions in the hub for the last couple of weeks.| From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 14 4:51:14 2008. |
| From: equanimus on Thu Feb 14 5:12:20 2008. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 14 6:32:34 2008. |
- I disagree with you on most of the points in the last few pages. Particularly the ones about Siththan's allegedly "flawed" characterization, the despicability of uNarchchi suraNdal and some other comparisons etc.
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 14 8:02:18 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| Nice discussion.
இச்சகத்துளோரெலாம் எதிர்த்து நின்ற போதினும் .... பச்சை ஊண் இயைந்து வேல் படைகள் வந்த போதினும்..... அசராமல் எழுதும் செல்வா
Needless to say - still I will say - I disagree with you on most of the points in the last few pages. Particularly the ones about Siththan's allegedly "flawed" characterization, the despicability of uNarchchi suraNdal and some other comparisons etc.
Anyway...next...meet pannuvOm ! |
>| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 9:37:08 2008. |
| From: Sanjeevi on Thu Feb 14 9:46:37 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| PR, we will meet..will meet..meet.. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Feb 14 9:53:54 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| PR, we will meet..will meet..meet.. |
| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 10:21:18 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
KOOOOOL |
| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 10:21:49 2008. |
| Sanjeevi wrote: | ||
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| From: thamiz on Thu Feb 14 14:02:35 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| I dont know about others but it really puts me off and I skip those posts mostly without reading. . |
| From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 14:10:03 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: | ||
நீங்க ஹானஸ்ட்டா மனம் திறந்து சொல்லீட்டீங்க!
நிறைய பேர் டிஸ்ஹானஸ்ட்டா சொல்லமால் சொல்லிக்கொள்கிறார்கள்னு நான் நினைக்கிறேன். Though scuh posts are not for me, but we should respect their effort and the time they spent to make their points!
It would have been nice of them if there are some "BOTTOMLINE message" in those posts so that we can just read that at least, and get the message! |
| From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Feb 14 14:12:21 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| I totally agree. But ezhuthumpOthu suthi vaLaikkAma, nEradiyA - paragraphs, illEnna point formla konjam neat'a ezhuthunA padikkiRathukk aarvam varum. adhathAn solla vanthEn |
| From: joe on Thu Feb 14 14:17:33 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 14 14:19:55 2008. |
| thamiz wrote: |
| It would have been nice of them if there are some "BOTTOMLINE message" in those posts so that we can just read that at least, and get the message! |
| From: MADDY on Thu Feb 14 16:03:10 2008. |
| m_23_bayarea wrote: | ||
<Digr> Awesome!
* Write in paragraphs... * Have Summaries at the end... * Have bullet points for aid... Reminds me of my English Composition/Essay Writing Classes...
<Digr> |
| From: ajithfederer on Thu Feb 14 16:09:00 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 23:46:59 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
i thot we follow that even in offices today......i cant imagine how much my manager will bark if i send him a mail that is bigger than 10 lines |
| Quote: |
| Roshan, i'm with u - but best thing to do with long posts is -just read some points - and do not reply to such posts - cos u have not read it fully......then when others reply - u get an idea wat was the long post all about |
| From: Wibha on Thu Feb 14 23:48:42 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||
ithathAn inga pala pEr paNNittu irukkAnga |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 20 0:17:49 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Wed Feb 20 1:52:00 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Arya is still in Theni shooting for his ambitious film Njaan Kadavul with Bala. The young actor has created a new record for maintaining long hair and a beard for more than 600 days for the film!
Njaan Kadavul will be the most important film for Arya as the shooting will be wrapped up by March end. Bala, the director of the film has also created a record for maximum number of shooting days for a Tamil film, over 200 days! |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 3:57:31 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| |
| From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 4:12:35 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
edhukku evvalavu emotions? |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 4:37:03 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| Surya maadhiri Aarya'vum vazhandhaa nalla irukkum
Illena ippadiththaan |
padam varrathukku munnadiye mudivu panna mudiyuma?| From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 4:46:25 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
padam varrathukku munnadiye mudivu panna mudiyuma? |
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 7:01:25 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 7:03:57 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku |
| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 21 7:07:10 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 21 8:17:55 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| இடியே பாய்ந்த பிறகு, வேல் எல்லாம் ஒன்றுமில்லை. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku |
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 9:40:17 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||
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| From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 21 10:03:25 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 10:09:32 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| cha...nalladhukkE kaalamillai ! |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 10:11:39 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| Veli varumaaa |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 10:15:13 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku |
| From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 10:16:43 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Don't worry Selva. Nalla vishayangal konjam methuva thaan vazhkkailla nagarum. Intha hubbum vidhivilakkallla |
paarthu, methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU| From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 21 10:22:34 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 11:54:43 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| oh.. appadiya paarthu, methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU |
irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren.
| From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 22 8:26:06 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Oh hO appadiya. vadai seiya thaan neram aaguthu, aana vadai senchu vachchu neram aagala irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren.
Moththalla ingredients-la thappu panni ippa thaan correctta choose panni irukkaar.
inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu kevalamaa, illa superaannu? |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 9:41:28 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| Yaarayo kuththi kaattura maadhiri theriyudhu---- |
And Bhavana too gone, that is good too So the cast is perfect now!
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu superaa, illa kevalamaanu? |
| From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:39:48 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
|
Oh hO appadiya. vadai seiya thaan neram aaguthu, aana vadai senchu vachchu neram aagala irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren.
Moththalla ingredients-la thappu panni ippa thaan correctta choose panni irukkaar.
inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu kevalamaa, illa superaannu? |
and bala wasn't a FOOL then to go to ajith repeatedly | From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:42:36 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| kevalamana padaththukku neraiya examples ennaala kodukka mudiyam, ungalukku kovam varum. |
| Quote: |
| Ithula suththi valaikka enna irukku? Just imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures Banging Head And Bhavana too gone, that is good too Very Happy So the cast is perfect now! |
ippadiya irukaanga.. ellarum thaan pannikittu irukaanga
| From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:45:22 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
|
Yaarayo kuththi kaattura maadhiri theriyudhu----neenga sonna dialogue--ungalukke repeat inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu superaa, illa kevalamaanu? |
ungaluku theriyaathaa.. ingredients la bala innum thapu thaan panni irukkaar. S A Rajkumar ai thaan mothalla book panni irunthaaraam.. piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga. | From: app_engine on Fri Feb 22 15:11:07 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Fri Feb 22 15:23:26 2008. |
| app_engine wrote: |
| >>piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga<<
பாலாவைத்திட்ட ராசாவை 'யாரோ ஒருத்தர்' ஆக்கணுமா? கொஞ்சம் ஓவர். |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:34:41 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ippavum ingredients la thappu thaan kannu panni irukkaar... bala was forced to remove ajith since he had spent entire money given to him for his own sugams |
Then the heroine saga started, first Bhavana then meenakshi finally Pooja (she was good in Pattiyal). Somehow the project got the good cast itself finally.
| selvakumar wrote: |
| ajith mattum sila pala visayangala mattenu solli iruntha, bala platform la pitchai eduthukittu iruppar |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| friendukkaaga panni koduthirukkaaar. bala va unga post ah paartha sirippaar and bala wasn't a FOOL then to go to ajith repeatedly. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:45:55 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| engalaalayum kodukka mudiyum |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes... ajith won't look good in those costumes... not just him.. anyone else.. prob, bala might look great in that |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:57:08 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| mothalla... padam eduthu mudichi jan 26 varratha oru news vanthathu.. year engitta ketkatheenga |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| S A Rajkumar ai thaan mothalla book panni irunthaaraam.. piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga. |
They heard that Bala is the director, they assumed some new comer, but they didn't expect this Bala. When they came to know the guy who directed Sethu, Nanda, and PM is the director, they walked out of the project as they had some "precious" projects in their hands. Bala had no options but to settle with Raja and Arya.
| From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:12:39 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
|
"Bala was forced to replace ajith / ajith was forced to drop the project / Bala intentionally removed ajith / ajith intentionally walked out of the project / Bala spent all money for his own sugam / ajith spent all money for his own sugam" is not my concern. When the project was announced with ajith in the lead, I was like Then the heroine saga started, first Bhavana then meenakshi finally Pooja (she was good in Pattiyal). Somehow the project got the good cast itself finally.
Bala will come back and prove even if he goes to streets. I don't think he will sit and whine. May be you know the whole episode better than me. But I do NOT want to know what happened as I am not interested in those stories at all. How well the project conceived on screen is my interest. |
ATha thaan kannu naan thelivaa sonnenae.
a| From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:16:01 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Bad films by Bala-va? Even if it is a bad film as you say, it should be better than ajith's bad films. Don't you think so?
I can write worse by saying how bad ajith will look like in those postures, let me stop here. |
Yes good compared to ajith film directors.. IT will be good compared to perarasu... but bad compared to many other good directors
: Arya looks better than what ajith would have Agreed with you then as well| From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:37:21 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| ammaamaa, namma padam ellam sonna date-la release aaguthu paarunga |
| From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:39:24 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| Yes, ajith and SAR were booked first, that was a good combination, you know? They heard that Bala is the director, they assumed some new comer, but they didn't expect this Bala. When they came to know the guy who directed Sethu, Nanda, and PM is the director, they walked out of the project as they had some "precious" projects in their hands. Bala had no options but to settle with Raja and Arya. |
Bala is keen on "bad to good" compared to "good to great". Hence, Arya and maayakannadi music director were chosen for the project You know They must have been chosen since they were lot more "BUSY" | From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:23:00 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| YOu want the project to be conceived well on screen and you feel that aarya is a better choice than ajith. Don't you feel this is contradictory. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| You feel that bala is such a great director that he can even make bad actors as good ones. Don't you feel that GOOD actors will become great actors and will suit the movie better than others. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| YOur logic is Like an S A RAJKUMAR can give a GREAT music than ILAYARAJA if bala works under him.. I think I should agree with you now since IR is giving maayakannadi and all.. So, obviously if he suits it, why not S A RAJKUMAR. NOw, you know who is a better choice |
. IR will not give maayakaanadi to Bala, we can expect another PM from him.
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Bala will certainly prove himself as a director. BUt that became possible only coz of ajith who obliged to rescue him out of the hussles by taking the MISS on his side ATha thaan kannu naan thelivaa sonnenae.
Now, if bala is going to DIRECT this and other films then it will be due to AJITH and AJITH. No one else |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:29:00 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes good compared to ajith film directors.. IT will be good compared to perarasu... |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| You can't write worse than this one |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:30:45 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| aanaa sollikittae irukkamaattaanga paarunga |
| From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:36:34 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes.. Since bala is a great director and IR is the worst compared to SAR Bala is keen on "bad to good" compared to "good to great". Hence, Arya and maayakannadi music director were chosen for the project You know They must have been chosen since they were lot more "BUSY" |
| From: joe on Sat Feb 23 12:23:40 2008. |
| From: joe on Sat Feb 23 13:19:06 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Sat Feb 23 14:02:03 2008. |
, this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga | From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 23 14:04:59 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga |
| From: ajithfederer on Sat Feb 23 14:31:37 2008. |
<edited> ... Selva its high time you please quit posting in this thread. Let them celebrate that streetslickers film. Why should we give a damm about that rotten backstabbing *******. It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . Hope you understand and please continue your great work in Ajith related threads......
| MADDY wrote: |
| Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 3:54:58 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| . It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 3:55:59 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga |
| From: rajasaranam on Sun Feb 24 4:17:02 2008. |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 4:23:36 2008. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ
பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்... |
| From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:40:14 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| hehehe, just see those stills, anyone will agree. And we will know for sure once the movie releases.
Ofcourse, Arya is not a bad one either. MDs and actors are in different leagues, your logic doesn't work . IR will not give maayakaanadi to Bala, we can expect another PM from him. . |
Arya isn't a bad one & contrary to other bala fans here, I have agreed on that too.. My POV was : He is Not a good one either. I really don't know why MDs and actors can't be in different leagues. If an audio fails to make an impression, we can't blame an actor. Similarly, if an actor fails to impress, we can't put the blame on the MD.
| Quote: |
| Again and again, I don't want to hear and not interested in these personal stories. |
That was not personal Right Your REASONS to HATE ARR albums or his work is not PERSONAL.. I know that We both are one and the same in this (like how I am with bala)| From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:44:03 2008. |
| Quote: |
| Bala-voda bad films paththi naamellam pesakkoodathu., ennaa namma accountlaye neraiya irukku. Laughing |
| Quote: |
| I think I can! |
| Quote: |
| namaa sollikittae irunthathillayaa enna? |
| Quote: |
| Sila "precious" movies panrathukku bathila summa irukkalam.
Ayyo paavam, ungala nenachcha paavama irukku |
Ayoo paavaam neenga | From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:49:35 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: | ||
<edited> ... Selva its high time you please quit posting in this thread. Let them celebrate that streetslickers film. Why should we give a damm about that rotten backstabbing *******. It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . Hope you understand and please continue your great work in Ajith related threads......
|
Reminded me chithappu comments in the tea stall (Paruthiveeran) | From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 6:27:02 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 7:03:54 2008. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ
பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்... |
Onnum Aagaathu.
Avvalavae | From: joe on Sun Feb 24 10:10:33 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
|
MADDY, Agree with you. Reminded me chithappu comments in the tea stall (Paruthiveeran) |
| From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 10:46:15 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Nice to know it! |
........pls. dont take it to heart | From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:12:16 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:14:17 2008. |
| rajasaranam wrote: |
| ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ
பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்... |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:50:50 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| I have seen the stills and I am sure on that once the movie releases too Arya isn't a bad one & contrary to other bala fans here, I have agreed on that too.. My POV was : He is Not a good one either. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| I really don't know why MDs and actors can't be in different leagues. If an audio fails to make an impression, we can't blame an actor. Similarly, if an actor fails to impress, we can't put the blame on the MD. |
Looks like you got something wrong in what I said about MDs and actors.
| selvakumar wrote: |
| You were interested in hearing and thinking on these personal stories for YSR if I am not wrong. You were telling that vishal was bashing u1 in his attempt to praise HJ for Satyam. |
Even if Vishal fights personally with Yuvan in future, I won't do that.
| selvakumar wrote: |
| That was not personal Right Your REASONS to HATE ARR albums or his work is not PERSONAL.. We both are one and the same in this (like how I am with bala) |
I don't like annachi's work just because he and IR had a big fight personally. Did they have any personal fights at all? I don't think so. So how come we are same? I think we are DIFFERENT.| From: Devar Magan on Sun Feb 24 12:54:38 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 13:05:59 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Yes. Madhu, Maayakannaadi, Vallavan, Kedi etc |
Just to irritate me? ithukkellam irritate avomnu nenaicheeaya? ippa namma pesarathu Balavaiyum, ajithaiyum paththi. Lets wait for Bala's innings and see how he does it
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Thanks for the info. Me too |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Irunthathu illa kannu. Atleast, the reasons were posted. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| Atleast, he didn't use others to earn money (Paramasivan) |
| From: ajithfederer on Sun Feb 24 15:45:14 2008. |
. That is what i couldnt tolerate and i was talking to selva only. Hope i cleared my point of view here.
| joe wrote: | ||
Hope Selva and you guys understand that it irritates others when Selva keep on putting bala and Perarasu in the same pedestal |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 22:30:07 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| It irked me to see people bashing ajith for the sake of Naan kadavul's so called director . |
| From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 22:48:07 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 22:50:23 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| I do not support rogues, even if they have the best brains in the world. |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 22:59:40 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| can someone PM me on the conflict between ajith and bala?
I do not support rogues, even if they have the best brains in the world. |
| From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:02:04 2008. |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:06:19 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| no joe, i havent.
i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too. |
| From: Kalyasi on Sun Feb 24 23:21:07 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| no joe, i havent.
i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too. |
| From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:29:40 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. |
| From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 23:41:25 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
as an eg: I will never accept/admire a known anti-tamil. |
........
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:42:16 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| thats fine with me; we will remain as iru thuruvangal. |
| Quote: |
| as an eg: I will never accept/admire a known anti-tamil. |
| From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:47:48 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| ppl. who support bala here have their own set of prejudice and bias and they do attack their "non-favroties" on a personal/non-cinematic level.........its not that they are completely sealed from the personal side of artistes........ |
| From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:51:18 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil. |
,That is why I put 'IMO'.| From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Feb 24 23:59:45 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 0:01:40 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||||
even from MGR to latest hero's have some bad/un acceptable qualities & we too know in what way they are bad...... but still we admire them for their on screen work |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 0:04:54 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: |
| even from MGR to latest hero's have some bad/un acceptable qualities & we too know in what way they are bad...... but still we admire them for their on screen work |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 0:37:45 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
It is the otherway around ..Anyway Leave it. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 0:54:00 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:10:25 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Me too.... Who cares if Bala is a rogue or a saint, all I care about him is how well he directs his movies. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:14:19 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||||
Kozhayum--karpazhippum sidhu vittu azhagaaga sirppam vadiththaal--Ungalukku avar sirpiyaaga therivaar--- Aanaal engalukko? |
| From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 25 1:18:18 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||||
Yeah! You give more importance to kolai and kaRpaLippu of the maker when you see the siRpam ,but we give more importance to SiRpam . |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:23:49 2008. |
| Thalafanz wrote: |
|
Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite??? |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:28:04 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல! |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:33:08 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||||
Then title of this thread should have been as Naan Kadavul istead of Bala's Naan kadavul..., If u put as Bala's....... then 1st Bala will come into mind----- |
| From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 25 1:35:46 2008. |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:41:48 2008. |
| Thalafanz wrote: |
| உன்மை. உங்களது கருத்து சிலருக்கு பொருந்தும். இன்னும் சிலருக்கு பொருந்தாது. அதைத்தான் நான் இங்கு சொல்ல வருகிறென்.
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| Quote: |
| இன்னும் ஒரு எடுதுக்காட்டு: நமக்கு உனவு தயாரிக்கும் அன்பரின் கரங்கல் சுத்தம் இல்லை என வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். அதனை அறிந்த நாம் அவருடய உனவை ருசிப்போமா??? |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 1:47:50 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல! |
| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 1:49:24 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'. |
Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have.| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:53:35 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||||
என் சிற்றறிவுக்கு இது எட்டல்ல |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:55:56 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||||
Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 1:56:36 2008. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 2:04:05 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 2:04:36 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||||||
Pls read my all previous arguements before come to the conclusion ..I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work ..One person can be a worst man personally (IMO ,I don't mind since he is not known personally to me) ,but he can be a good aritst ... Don't rate his art with your personal dislike of person ...We are discussing here about art ,not the person. |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 2:06:18 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: |
|
Thilak, font size perusu pannunga... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 2:07:40 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||||||||
That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu. |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 2:13:49 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
Athu Sari ! I should be the one misunderstood this forum is to discuss about ART...Mannikavum |
)| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 2:16:28 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
on a lighter note: mannippu...... thamizh-la engalukku pidikkadha varthai..... adhanale English-la sorry-nu sollunga (not necessary to ask sorry ) |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 2:50:24 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
on a lighter note: mannippu...... thamizh-la engalukku pidikkadha varthai..... adhanale English-la sorry-nu sollunga (not necessary to ask sorry ) |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Feb 25 2:55:39 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: |
| That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:02:06 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
Joe's argument is it is wrong to come down on a work of an art because you disagree the artist lacks moral fibre - so to speak. That is a poor basis to judge the work. That is what Joe has been saying. It is not a 'perception' that he is unfairly demanding but a fair basis of judgement. But then I don't agree with Joe completely as Selva has made arguments about why exactly he didn't like Bala's earlier works and has been crying hoarse that he did diss even Ameer's film -even though Ameer supported Ajith. |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:11:35 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:14:17 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| "moral fibre" is relative.
crime is not. |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:24:22 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| konjam thelivaa? |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:26:38 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
slapping an actress is a crime; no two opinions on that. |
| From: Munsamy on Mon Feb 25 3:27:23 2008. |
| NOV wrote: | ||
slapping an actress is a crime; no two opinions on that. |
| From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:30:48 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 3:48:07 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: |
| kavi kannadasan poal thanni adithal kavidhai varuma kazhudhaikku |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:59:24 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Kannadasan is the best example. He sinned every way possible but still his works are/will be the best in tamil film history. Just because he had bad habits, we can't dig at his personal life and ignore his works. |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 4:04:41 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| "moral fibre" is relative.
crime is not. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 4:08:23 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: | ||
And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov? |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 4:08:53 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| Thanni adippadhu kutramo?
namadhu naattil, 90% aadavar , thanni adippar.... |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 4:27:52 2008. |
| NOV wrote: |
| of course I am refering to real-life slapping
but I also do not condone onscreen manhandling of women too |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 4:30:15 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||||
Ippa vera example:- Kidney thirudura hospitalla, vaithyam paaththaa vyaadhi kaanaama poyidum(kidney'um)'ngradhukkaaga, andha hospital dhaan best'nu solveengalaa? |
) Bala's personal tiffs (which you analogize to "stealing kidneys"), legal (criminal) or otherwise, will not worsen this disease of mine. Or so I believe.
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 4:36:08 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: | ||||||
Sarna_blr, It depends on what "kidney" is. The way I see it, "viyAdhi" here is my film-watching disease. (Incidentally, it was Truffaut who said that, "[f]ilm lovers are sick people." ) Bala's personal tiffs (which you analogize to "stealing kidneys"), legal (criminal) or otherwise, will not worsen this disease of mine. Or so I believe.
Moreover, I think your analogy will make sense only if "loss of kidney" is not to be considered a "viyAdhi" by itself, while it very much is (or so it is thought of as, in general). |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Feb 25 4:37:04 2008. |
| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:12:06 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:16:00 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: |
| hi everybody,
that's an interesting discussion - pls keep going
jus one thing - even I am an admirer of Bala's works. I think he is one of those few directors who makes films with least flaws. |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 6:28:42 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||||||||
|
By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:28:44 2008. |
leave alone his attitude.....| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:30:48 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient." |
& | From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:34:16 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
|
|
By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."[/quote]
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:41:15 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: |
| there's nothing funny in my statement sarna_blr
can u deny his perfection when it comes to film-making leave alone his attitude..... |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:41:24 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Balumahendra was alleged to the reason for Shoba's death ..Does it make you to dis-credit balu's works?
Thiyagaraja Bhagavathar and Kalaivaanar NSK got jailed in a muder case ..does that make you feel they are less talented ? NadigaveL M.R.Radha was jailed for shooting MGR ..Does that make you underestimate and hate MR Radha's acting ? |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:46:18 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
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| From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 6:46:50 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
& |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:47:23 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| NOV, while your anti-actor-slapping stand is commendable, I am disheartened that you will be ignoring many of the best directors, like Bharathiraja. |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:49:28 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Yes, Bharathiraja slaps every new face if he doesn't get the desired result and KB scolds everyone for the same reason. I still believe it is unacceptable on the moral ground, but didn't we accept and enjoyed their works and placed them on top of the industry for a few years? |
| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:55:04 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
|
Ayyo ayyo--- Chinna exaample---- Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram.......
Oru paana soththukku oru soru padham........ |
( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon 
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:58:34 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: | ||
I told u, films with least flawless, not flawless films ( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon
vidunga...balavukkum adi sarukkum.....but on the whole, his works are gripping.... |
| From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 7:01:05 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| So what--- |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 7:06:05 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| Chinna exaample----
Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram....... |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 7:12:02 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: | ||
I told u, films with least flawless, not flawless films ( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon
vidunga...balavukkum adi sarukkum.....but on the whole, his works are gripping.... |
| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 7:14:44 2008. |
| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 7:24:33 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
|
Kamal Sir nadichcha sippikkula muthu ( padththoda pear gnabagaththil illai) Adhula kamal sir'ku oru vela vaangiththarEnu oru periyavar solluvaar--udane namma Kamal sir andha periyavar engey ponaalum pinnaadiye povaar........ Adhey scene -pathaamagan'la Sangeetha saappaadu poduvaaa udane Vikram pinnaalaye povaar--even walking style will be copied from Kamal sir |
| From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 7:29:15 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: | ||
of course, nalla vishayangalai engirundhu vena edukkalam. even kamal has said in an interview that he got his inspiration for Chappani character from a Spanish film. (idhu eppadi irukku ?) |
| From: dinesh13284 on Mon Feb 25 7:50:04 2008. |
| rangan_08 wrote: | ||
of course, nalla vishayangalai engirundhu vena edukkalam. even kamal has said in an interview that he got his inspiration for Chappani character from a Spanish film. (idhu eppadi irukku ?) |
| From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 8:02:14 2008. |
). Otherwise, this info is true.| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 13:14:57 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient." |
.....
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| From: ajithfederer on Mon Feb 25 13:48:11 2008. |
. Its futile to talk about certain things in this thread. Hope you understand what i mean
| MADDY wrote: | ||
will this mean, s/w companies should stick to the employees having terror links??? recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... .....
also, the complaints here abt Bala are not entirely personal........i mean, i'm not complaining that he is a ganja party, he shuld be stoned or he is the one who caused this/that heroines' death..........the complaint here is messing up schedules for a upcoming super*, making him reject some precious offers during this time, and mishandling the relieving process of the Hero from a project...........i also think, Ajith incurred loss as he was forced to return advance money, which is not reqd., in case of pull outs......arent these professional mistakes from Bala?? ....
when terrorism demands job sacking/condemning, Bala's acts deserves condemn from Ajith's fans, which is perfectly professional and not personal......... |
| From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 14:08:17 2008. |
| From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 15:35:10 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 20:27:24 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| [Digression]
Maddy, No, it won't; because it's the company's prerogative to do whatever it feels like doing for its own interests. And, I don't think I spoke about any of the Ajith fans of not being "professional" (honestly, I don't even get what it means for a fan to be "professional"), for taking things "personally" or anything remotely close. In general, I intend to discuss films here with different people, not about the purported biases of fans of different filmmakers/actors. That sort of discussion bores me; watching 'Rashomon' one more time would do a lot of good for me instead. Of course, I don't care a hoot about Bala the person, leave aside his professional ethics. Much as we tend to assume everyday how "good" various celebrities/artists we know/like are, the truth is that we hardly know about them. I don't intend to affiliate myself in any way to the personal lives of the various artists whose works I've come to like. Roman Polanski was charged guilty of raping a minor, but he also made 'The Pianist.' Such is life, I think. And, I think I'd stick to my position that these sort of stuff don't matter to me. |
| From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 20:32:21 2008. |
| ajithfederer wrote: |
| Maddy your argument is great but lets leave it here. Glad to see you supporting ajiths fan cause here.
Neenga enna sonnalum inge pandithargal edho oru badhil vechirupaanga .. Why do u waste your time and energy. Please concentrate on something else which is useful . Its futile to talk about certain things in this thread. Hope you understand what i mean |
| From: joe on Mon Feb 25 22:45:42 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... ..... |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 1:21:00 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
|
In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 1:33:59 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 1:35:12 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Good example ..But here comes 3 parties invlove 1. S/w engineer 2. S/w company 3. User of the software S/w company may take action against s/w engineers for his irregularity and low moral ..But user of the software has nothing to do with it ..User of the software just worry about the quality of the application ,not about the personal ethics of the programmer who created software. Same way ,In cinema also ,there are 3 parties 1. Cinema artits 2. Cinema industry 3. Cinema fan In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome. |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 1:42:07 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| Roshan,
I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 1:46:12 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||
Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your posts to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion.. |
| From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 1:46:49 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||
Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your post to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion. Why blame your English? neenga thamizhlla idha vida strong'a accuse paNNittu iruntheenga. |
| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 1:56:17 2008. |
| joe wrote: | ||
Good example ..But here comes 3 parties invlove 1. S/w engineer 2. S/w company 3. User of the software S/w company may take action against s/w engineers for his irregularity and low moral ..But user of the software has nothing to do with it ..User of the software just worry about the quality of the application ,not about the personal ethics of the programmer who created software. Same way ,In cinema also ,there are 3 parties 1. Cinema artits 2. Cinema industry 3. Cinema fan In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome. |
| From: Thalafanz on Tue Feb 26 1:57:46 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||||
sarcasm means----Witty language used to convey insults or scorn witty means---Combining clever conception and facetious expression scorn means ---Open disrespect for a person or thing Manmadha raani---edharkku ivvalavu kadumayaana thaakku? |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 2:02:10 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| the relationship betn s/w enggr and user is minimal, whereas cinema artsite and cinema fan equation is completely different..........tomm., if microsoft corp. gets caught for having terrorists in their offices, dont u think their sales will dip??? users cant just close their eyes on moral/ethics point and keep supporting good products from bad ppl.......... |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:02:36 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i'm a big fan of Bala's movies, but that doesent mean i will support his stupidity in cover of personal traits........ |
Oh, come now, I wasn't (I think nobody did) supporting Bala's "stupidity" here!
| MADDY wrote: |
| also, did anyone other than PR, understand that selva has complaints even on sethu and nanda???? wat personal hatred wud selva carry on nanda/sethu??? |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 2:04:32 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
unga analogy padiye, if one s/w enggr(bala) acts as a hindrance to other(ajith)'s product, who has a great following, dont u think its condemnable??? |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 2:19:16 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 2:20:41 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| Not only did I understand that, I was responding only to Selva's critique of Bala's films here! Because he put forth his criticisms in a way I can understand. |
| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 2:25:24 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| Maddy,
Ain't this funny, this is all I've been saying here. Oh, come now, I wasn't (I think nobody did) supporting Bala's "stupidity" here! |
| From: rangan_08 on Tue Feb 26 2:38:45 2008. |
how many of you will welcome it ??? bcoz anything is possible in both cinema & politics.. isnt' it.| From: rangan_08 on Tue Feb 26 2:49:30 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that.............. |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:51:16 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
then i dont quite understand y u used the hospital analogy to defend ur liking for bala......how it looks like now is - ok, bala is a great director, he makes great films, we will discuss it here............he is very unproffesional/wastes time/money of other artistes - are all personal traits which we shuldnt discuss here............ |
) When ever did I say we shouldn't discuss Bala's shady side here! (Heck, I don't have any opinion on what should be discussed in this thread and what shouldn't be. I even mess up with my judgement in tagging my posts as "digression.")
| MADDY wrote: |
| come on, then why was Shankar bashing for making movies slowly and wasting lots of producers money allowed in HUB??........ |
| equanimus wrote: |
| illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient." |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:55:32 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that.............. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 3:06:46 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: | ||
Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all. |
| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 3:11:52 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all. |
| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 3:15:35 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| I am only against degrading one's product just because of personal venjance or one particular incident .That is all. |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 3:22:04 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
exactly my point too............this thread should accomodate discussions on time management/call sheet management of Bala as much as his scenes/screenplays........to discard discussions on his mismanagement as taking things personally is not happening........... i also understand that ppl. who support bala's style of filmmaking are not neccessarily supporting his acts with Ajith........but to discard any discussion on this issue as personal is also not correct....... |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 3:56:32 2008. |
| From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 26 3:57:38 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 4:04:09 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies.
As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights. I was reminded of an anecdote that seemed very topical : When Gulshan Kumar was shot a few months, the famous music director Nadeem of the Nadeem-Shravan was under the radar for possible links with the underworld and was suspected of having a direct hand in the murder. Pardes songs were making waves around that time. A relative and I were listening to "Do dil" from Pardes when he remarked: "kolagaarappaavi......evvaLo azhaga paattu pOttirukkaan" |
Prabhu, to be honest I see Vivek's style here But I know this is not the right idam, poruL, sEval to quote Vivek Anyway, thanks for lightening up this place | From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 4:21:55 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies.
As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| I was reminded of an anecdote that seemed very topical :
When Gulshan Kumar was shot a few months, the famous music director Nadeem of the Nadeem-Shravan was under the radar for possible links with the underworld and was suspected of having a direct hand in the murder. Pardes songs were making waves around that time. A relative and I were listening to "Do dil" from Pardes when he remarked: "kolagaarappaavi......evvaLo azhaga paattu pOttirukkaan" |
You mean, 'kolaignar'? | From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 4:35:28 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 4:47:06 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies.
As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 4:49:36 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| If this thread goes to 3rd or 30th page, how big a deal it is? This is just a forum for a few people, not for the entire world. Chinnapulla thanamaa irukku, ithellaama perisa eduththukkarathu. Take 'Anjathey' thread, I bet it will not even cross 10 pages and it will go the underground in couple of days/weeks while some not-so-worthy threads will be on the first page for years, but who cares? The quality of movies like these speak for themselves and forum's first page won't represent/reflect it. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:01:17 2008. |
| Quote: |
| Arya is not a great actor, that is everybody's view too. I believe if the director is good, he will come good on screen too, that is what happened so far. |
Certainly, it is a misfit if we consider ACTING till now. If you feel that, bala can transform an actor then I don't think why he cant do it with S A Rajkumar. I brought in IR and YUVAN to highlight the fact that even they will remain equal to S A Rajkumar in bala films since it is BALA who transforms them (as per you)
| Quote: |
| ippa neenga enna solla varreeenga Looks like you got something wrong in what I said about MDs and actors. |
| Quote: |
| I And FYI I never went to any Vishal's threads to shout like you do. Because I am not into Yuvan's personal stories, and they don't both me Even if Vishal fights personally with Yuvan in future, I won't do that. |
| Quote: |
| I think you are confusing urself with lot of stuff |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 5:05:09 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
oh yea, i forgot we just cared abt the product - we will go ga-ga over Bill Gates' Microsoft but no, we wont listen to Scott Mcnealy(Sun) cries of foul that Bill is a thief.........because operating microsoft product is just as easy as violating colombian human rights - oops drinking coke......and yea, complaints against Bill gates and windows products are purely *personal* because 90% of complainers are human rights viloators themselves |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:09:46 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:14:15 2008. |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 5:19:16 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும் |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:24:12 2008. |
| thilak4life wrote: |
| Whoa...kandippa ithellam appadiye varrathu thaan!!!! |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:24:45 2008. |
| Quote: |
| I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| But then I don't agree with Joe completely as Selva has made arguments about why exactly he didn't like Bala's earlier works and has been crying hoarse that he did diss even Ameer's film -even though Ameer supported Ajith. |
Hope those who know my perception doesn't take it away from me purely on the basis of "bala hatred". I have explained umpteen times on the SJS, Perarasu correlation Have clarified on the Ameer angle too. I have even accepted that the intensity could have aggravated due to my hatred. But clubbing everything under that is a bit too much
So, "crying hoarse" looks weird| From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:25:18 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| PR,"அதை ஒரு ஓநாயா இருந்து பார்த்தாதான் தெரியும்" என்று சொல்லாமல் சொல்கிறீர்களா ? |
puriyalai.
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:27:04 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: |
| puriyalai.
நான் எதையும் 'சொல்லாம சொல்ல' முயலவில்லை. நிஜமாவே நான் சொல்லவந்தது நான் சொன்னது மட்டும் தான் |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:27:43 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| PR, I just referred to Ameer angle couple of times unlike in every post So, "crying hoarse" looks weird |
EdhO nammaala mudinja exaggeration.| From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:30:38 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும் |
| From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 5:33:30 2008. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:40:34 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 5:44:43 2008. |
| Quote: |
| On second reading I see my post seems to read like that (i.e. sounding like 'we are guilty do we should shut up'). I want to clarify that that is not what I meant. It was just attempted humour gone bad. |
It was a good one and Maddy's counter post was a similar attempt I felt. Naan rendeyum equal'a rasichEn
| Quote: |
| Was of course trying to underline my weakness of well-made goods no matter what. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:47:32 2008. |
| From: leosimha on Tue Feb 26 5:52:21 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| yedho nammalaal mudinjadhu
Cheeyan thread'ku ponom 100 page finish oru silar seendittu irundha vivek thread'ku ponom--ippa ---chummaa adhurudhula Yaarume seendaama irundha Bala thread'ku vandhom--- |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 7:49:04 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: | ||
Ithu onnum nakkal illayae |
| From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 8:02:29 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||
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| From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 8:13:29 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| Anyway, it's very much possible (heck, that's quite the only possibility for me) to be interested in the works of an artist and be totally indifferent to things about the artist outside his work no matter what. Which is what Joe, Prabhu Ram and I have said in our posts at various points. (What I don't seem to get is what the points of disagreement were at first place! yAru yAru, edhu edhula disagree paNNAnga'nnE puriyalappA.) |
feels we are getting too personal on Bala everytime we make a critcism on him..........even when we have substantiated that it is a genuine cinematic/professional ground on which we have criticised Bala, there are no takers to our thoughts.........
feels whoever is supporting Bala and his movies ignoring time/money mismanagement aspect are against AJith or atleast against our concerns
.......i can vouch for this view amongst Ajith fans atleast in this hub.... | From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 8:15:46 2008. |
| equanimus wrote: |
| I am not able to get this analogy. Can someone shed more light? |
| equanimus wrote: |
| (What I don't seem to get is what the points of disagreement were at first place! yAru yAru, edhu edhula disagree paNNAnga'nnE puriyalappA.) |
| From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 8:21:11 2008. |
| Quote: |
| I wish to solemny affirm that the above was not an analogy but only a manifestation of my compulsive quotation syndrome. |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 8:23:19 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 8:27:23 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
|
Me/Roshan/Feddy/*"Perumbaalana" Ajith fans - Bala is a bad time/money manager who has wasted Ajith's precious time and incurred financial loss to Ajith as well.....the revlieving process too was very unlawful or forecful to say the least........so, we are condemning Bala's acts, which are so unprofessional and we feel these are also aspects on which a director is to be judged............. |
| From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 8:47:06 2008. |
| From: joe on Tue Feb 26 9:37:10 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
| |
| From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 9:41:36 2008. |
| joe wrote: |
| |
to the thread (for the time being) | From: joe on Tue Feb 26 9:47:32 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 10:20:55 2008. |
| From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 27 2:05:18 2008. |
| From: Sanjeevi on Wed Feb 27 2:28:40 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music. |
| From: rangan_08 on Wed Feb 27 5:37:39 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music. |
| From: sarna_blr on Wed Feb 27 5:48:14 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music. |
| From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:26:14 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. |
| From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 27 8:32:25 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i havent seen that movie keenly |
| From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:37:38 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||
|
(raguvaran style) - PR, i somehow found vikram's extreme "man from mars" character a big turn off and it just went worse as movie progressed.....| From: Roshan on Wed Feb 27 8:38:20 2008. |
| Prabhu Ram wrote: | ||||
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)| From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:47:03 2008. |
| Roshan wrote: | ||||||
Ippadiyum irukkalAm illaiyA I have not seen the movie keenly.. because it was a dud
(Maddy nEthu sick leave eduthu muRai maaman padam pArtha katha gnApgagam vanthuduchu, hence my interpretation ) |
......(typing a post in between meetings have such consequences )| From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 27 8:49:03 2008. |
| From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 27 8:50:40 2008. |
| From: Roshan on Wed Feb 27 8:54:34 2008. |
| Sanguine Sridhar wrote: |
| Thaaimaaman can be muraimaaman too! Roshan adhunaala confuse aagi irrupaanga?! Enna Roshan right-a? |
yeah yeah right | From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:10:45 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| enna kodumai ithu ! What MADDY meant there was about the thread going back to SQUARE ONE after several rounds of discussions if not the # pages of the thread. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga |
still not clear.| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:39:11 2008. |
| selvakumar wrote: |
| This is precisely what I was referring to. Arya ||| S A Rajkumar (Atleast, with few here if we consider his acting). If not S A R, some other lesser music director). I just wanted to highlight the difference of having Ajith in the project compared to Arya. Certainly, it is a misfit if we consider ACTING till now. If you feel that, bala can transform an actor then I don't think why he cant do it with S A Rajkumar. I brought in IR and YUVAN to highlight the fact that even they will remain equal to S A Rajkumar in bala films since it is BALA who transforms them (as per you) |
| From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:42:41 2008. |
| jaiganes wrote: |
| I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music. |
| From: equanimus on Wed Feb 27 17:13:14 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| i disagree here, he has taken stand in his movies (correct me if "taking a stand is not equal to having a POV")...........in sethu, i remember vaguely him taking a stand with heroine's sister's track........the listless woman who comes back home bcos she couldnt afford the demands of in-laws.........In Nanda, when Rajkiran says - "avangala naamadhaan kaapathanum" and brings tamil refugees into the town - its a clear stand on behalf of "eelam struggle" (very commendable one, IMO)..........Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud - i havent seen that movie keenly........so, Bala does take stand and gives a viewpoint to the viewer.......... |
| From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 1:05:49 2008. |
| From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 28 2:29:06 2008. |
| From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 28 2:39:08 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| EQ check ur PM |
| From: dinesh13284 on Thu Feb 28 9:06:09 2008. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
அது என்ன தனியா பேசிக்கிறது? என்னவா இருந்தாலும் சபையில தான் பேசனும், ஆமாம்! |
| From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 9:18:03 2008. |
| rajasaranam wrote: | ||
அது என்ன தனியா பேசிக்கிறது? என்னவா இருந்தாலும் சபையில தான் பேசனும், ஆமாம்! |
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 28 9:55:37 2008. |
| From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 10:06:38 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
| MADDY,
Neenga enna solli ithu varakkum naan oththukkittu iruken? or naan enna solli neenga oththukkittu irukkeenga? Ore oru thadavai mattaum thaan we were united (I don't remember for what). ithu ellam hubla saatharanamappa
Yes, if it is a personal fight of some artistes, I don't want to hear it, please keep it in PM |
)........
| From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 28 10:15:17 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: |
| hey judge, we agreed on Bala issue in starting pages of this thread.......ofcourse, we both will agree Mahendran is the best director in tamil ever (yes i have accepted that recently )........ |
| MADDY wrote: |
| its not personal fight of artistes, its just i compared Bala's style with one more person's....... |
| From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 10:31:51 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||||
There you are (imagine the phrase with Nagesh's rendition in KNI)
I know that one more person |
- purinja seri......| From: app_engine on Thu Mar 13 8:41:04 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 5:12:52 2008. |
| app_engine wrote: |
| The dialogue writer for this movie, Jayamohan, has got into a tussle with film artist association (based on a vikatan article that commented on Jayamohan's blog making fun of MGR / Sivaji)... |
| From: sarna_blr on Fri Mar 14 5:30:57 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: |
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| From: Tamilan on Fri Mar 14 5:57:02 2008. |
| From: cancer on Fri Mar 14 6:03:39 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: | ||
Looks like there is a ban on using him in films now, this move is simply a ridiculous one by artistes association. I hope that NK's progress doesn't get affected by this agitation. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:11:23 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||
I Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:59 am.... my last emoticon....till now only one page crossed.....padaththadhaan nidhaanamaa edukkuraangana....indha thread koodavaa....... |
So quantities never tell you the qualities | From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:12:17 2008. |
| cancer wrote: | ||||
I think there wont be any problem for the films that he already working, the stupid ban should only might be future. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:26:20 2008. |
| Tamilan wrote: |
| Interesting...
http://jeyamohan.in/?p=279 |
| From: jaiganes on Mon Mar 17 15:14:26 2008. |
| MADDY wrote: | ||
i disagree here, he has taken stand in his movies (correct me if "taking a stand is not equal to having a POV")...........in sethu, i remember vaguely him taking a stand with heroine's sister's track........the listless woman who comes back home bcos she couldnt afford the demands of in-laws.........In Nanda, when Rajkiran says - "avangala naamadhaan kaapathanum" and brings tamil refugees into the town - its a clear stand on behalf of "eelam struggle" (very commendable one, IMO)..........Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud - i havent seen that movie keenly........so, Bala does take stand and gives a viewpoint to the viewer.......... |
| From: sarna_blr on Tue Mar 18 0:49:05 2008. |
| MrJudge wrote: |
|
sila threads 100 pages kanakkula speed-a pogum aana padam periya mokkaiya irukkum So quantities never tell you the qualities
|
..enough...happy...
| From: directhit on Tue Mar 18 2:52:13 2008. |
even if not, for ur questions
| From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Mar 18 2:56:26 2008. |
| directhit wrote: |
| 2. second line -- nadakkaradhu naan naraya paarthirukkein
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| From: jaiganes on Wed Mar 19 8:15:58 2008. |
| sarna_blr wrote: | ||
Good joke....should I laugh...for ur sake ..enough...happy...
Wt do u mean by quality.....Let us take pithamagan..... Ulagaththula engayaavudhu appadi oru charactor'a paaththirukkeengalaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...?
illa shakthi maadhiri oru charactor ulla payyan'a...adhuvum padichcha ponnu love pannumaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...? |
| From: clnarain on Thu Mar 20 21:54:24 2008. |
| From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Mar 20 23:20:02 2008. |
| clnarain wrote: |
| Guys,
Where is the link to the controversial article on MGR & Sivaji by Jeyamohan? It's been the talk of the town now and I'm very much interested in reading the same. |
| From: rangan_08 on Fri Mar 21 0:21:48 2008. |
| From: MrJudge on Fri May 16 4:27:25 2008. |
| From: directhit on Tue May 20 0:06:32 2008. |
| From: Thirumaran on Tue May 20 0:10:30 2008. |
| directhit wrote: |
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இருநூறு லாரி, முன்னூறு கார்களைவெச்சு சேஸிங் படம் எடுக்கிற பரவ சத்தை, படபடப்பைவிட, ரெண்டு மனிதர்களைத் திண்ணை யில உட்காந்து பேசவெச்சே பிரமாதப்படுத்திட முடியும்னு நினைக்கிறேன். அது நான் நினைச்சவிதத்தில் கிடைக்கும் வரை, அந்த ரெண்டு பேரையும் திண்ணையைவிட்டு எழுந்திருக்க விட மாட்டேன். அவ்வளவுதான் விஷயம்! |
| From: raaja_rasigan on Tue May 20 0:50:02 2008. |
| directhit wrote: |
| காசியில், ராஜாவின் பாடல் நாகராவில் ஓடியபோது, வந்து உட்கார்ந்த ஒரு வடநாட்டுச் சாமியார்... அந்த ஏழரை நிமிஷங்களும் வானம் வெறித்து, அருவி போலக் கண்ணீர் வழிய அமர்ந்திருந்தார். பாடல் முடிந்ததும், என் தலை தொட்டு, 'இதோட அர்த்தம் எனக்குப் புரியும்' என்று சொல்லிட்டுப் போனார். மொழி தெரியாத உலகத்தையும் விழி கசியவிடுகிற ராஜா என்னோடு இருக்கார். அது போதும் எனக்கு! |
| From: Thirumaran on Tue May 20 0:55:57 2008. |
| raaja_rasigan wrote: | ||
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Ippadi paaratta padura thaguthi ulla Orae Tamil MD is IR | From: raaja_rasigan on Tue May 20 1:01:12 2008. |
| Thirumaran wrote: | ||||
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