India vs England - ODI Series

From: ajithfederer on 3rd June 2011 07:11 AM [Full View]

India vs England - Fixtures - Test's/ODI's/Tour Matches

From: ajithfederer on 3rd June 2011 07:16 AM [Full View]

Past Tour Results in England

1996 Tour
England won the series 1-0 (3 Match series)
Players of the series SC Ganguly (India) and N Hussain (England)

2002 Tour
4 Match series drawn 1-1
Players of the series R Dravid (India) and MP Vaughan (England)

2007 Tour
Series India won the 3-match series 1-0
Players of the series JM Anderson (England) and Z Khan (India)

From: ajithfederer on 3rd June 2011 07:21 AM [Full View]

Botham's Number 1 Team

Annan Jimmy Anderson-in Sabatham

Darren Gough's Testimony

[More to be Cont'd]

From: ajithfederer on 3rd June 2011 08:36 AM [Full View]

India news
Should be fit for England - Sehwag
ESPNcricinfo staff

May 17, 2011

Virender Sehwag expects to be back playing for India when they tour England later this year © Getty Images

India batsman Virender Sehwag, who underwent surgery on his injured shoulder in London last week, is likely to be fit for India's upcoming tour of England.

"I think I will able to play the series in England," Sehwag told Mid-Day. "That's the reason why I stopped playing the Indian Premier League for Delhi Daredevils and rushed to London to get my shoulder operated."

Sehwag picked up the injury, a slap lesion or labrum (shoulder blade) tear, during the 2009 IPL, and did not play a single game during the World Twenty20 in England. He also missed the one-day series in South Africa in January this year on account of the injury. He was declared fit in time for the World Cup but did not bowl during India's victorious campaign. Sehwag played 11 games captaining Delhi Daredevils during the current IPL season but took the decision to withdraw from the tournament to undergo shoulder surgery in England after his side's loss to Mumbai Indians on May 7.

The 32-year-old Sehwag was operated upon by Dr Andrew Wallace, whom he had consulted earlier in 2009. The London-based surgeon Wallace had also worked on Sachin Tendulkar's tennis elbow. "I will return to London after six weeks for a check-up," Sehwag said. "I should be fit in six to eight weeks. Going by the rehabilitation programme designed for me I should be okay. I am already feeling the difference each day."

Sehwag was expected to return to India late on Monday night. He has already been ruled out of India's tour of West Indies that begins on June 4. India then go on to play four Tests and five ODIs in England, with the first Test beginning at Lord's on July 21.

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/co...ry/515560.html

From: ajithfederer on 10th June 2011 11:16 PM [Full View]

India in England 2011
BCCI blocks technology for England tour

ESPNcricinfo staff

June 10, 2011

India's forthcoming tour of England will take place without the use of the Decision Review System (DRS), after the Board for Control of Cricket in India officially informed the England & Wales Cricket Board that they would be unwilling to embrace the use of technology.

The news comes as a blow to England, who - despite some teething problems on their tours of West Indies and South Africa in recent years - have become increasingly astute in their use of the review system. Graeme Swann has been a particular beneficiary of Hawk-Eye replays, with 29.71% of his 138 Test wickets coming via lbw decisions, the highest proportion for an offspinner in Test history.

"The England team are comfortable with the use of DRS, but the BCCI have advised us that they won't be willing to sanction its use during the Test and one-day series," an ECB spokesman told ESPNcricinfo. "Both boards have to agree to the technology being in place for it to happen, so it doesn't look as though it will be used this summer."

DRS technology has been used without incident during the current Test series between England and Sri Lanka, with the addition of Hot Spot replays helping to diffuse a potentially controversial caught-behind verdict against Kumar Sangakkara in Cardiff. Despite no visible deviation through to the keeper, a thin white mark on the edge of Sangakkara's bat helped to confirm that he had touched the ball, and at the close of play, his captain Tillakaratne Dilshan conceded that the right decision had been reached.

India, by contrast, have been reluctant participants, most notably during the recent World Cup, when Ian Bell was ruled not out during the tied match against India, because the batsman had advanced more than 2.5m down the wicket, at which point the parameters for Hawk-Eye's tracking system are deemed unreliable. "The adulteration of technology with human thinking meant we didn't get that wicket," said India's captain, MS Dhoni, at the conclusion of the match.

Dhoni's outspoken opposition to DRS is backed by other senior players within the Indian squad, including Sachin Tendulkar, and as a consequence the BCCI is willing to take a stand on the issue. "Our official position on DRS remains unchanged," an Indian board official told ESPNcricinfo. "To implement UDRS you need the agreement between the two participating nations. Now with the BCCI not supporting DRS, the ECB cannot force it on us."

India's stance leaves the future of DRS in doubt, given that the ICC's cricket committee recommended in May that technology ought to be incorporated in all forms of the game. There had been moves to make DRS mandatory at the ICC's annual board meeting in June, but the BCCI's opposition will be hard to overcome.

© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/518619.html

From: ajithfederer on 10th June 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

Dei oru series aavadhu use panni tholaingada. Tendulkar would have been given out in the semi against Pak if there was no UDRS. I don't want to see another Sydney gate happening idiots.

From: ajithfederer on 10th June 2011 11:28 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar once said he believes HOT SPOT to UDRS. In the present Eng-SL test series they are using H/S with UDRS. High time to try it.

From: VinodKumar's on 10th June 2011 11:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Dei oru series aavadhu use panni tholaingada. Tendulkar would have been given out in the semi against Pak if there was no UDRS. I don't want to see another Sydney gate happening idiots.

Nallatha ennaiku pannirukaanga

From: Plum on 11th June 2011 07:29 AM [Full View]

Simple. Until anti-india umpires are weeded out, no point using udrs. If taufel, dar and one more competent, unbiased umpire are standing, then I have no problem with udrs. I don't want udrs with dharmasena as third umpire. It only adds one more layer of anti-india umpiring decisisions on marginal calls. Udane don't bring evidence of clear calls being in favour of india. I am talking about marginal calls that can be interpreted any which way - they WIL go against india if Taufel or Dar are not involved. Remember 2.5 cm? Somehow they'll find a way to favour the opposition esp if the opposition is England.

When I place tarapore and the likes in Elite panel, then I will also support udrs and screw Eng/aus etc by influencing our umpires to call marginal calls against them - secure in the knowledge that any criticism can be painted as racism/rverse racism etc. Then I will advise Eng/Aus to embrace UdRS and not be dinosaurs

Adhu varaikkum I am ok with on-field howlers against india. Those happen anyway. Let's not add another layer of udrs howlers against india

From: ajithfederer on 13th June 2011 12:34 AM [Full View]

Before i write this I acknowledge myself that this is a futile exercise

Plum, While there are is no question of anti-Indian(read steve bucknor) or incompetent umpires in world cricket UDRS is a system designed to eliminate and minimize errors. Nobody says it is a foolproof system, it can never be. After several mistakes Umpire Ashoka de silva has been removed from the system. One has to take this as a searching device for such umpires. There will be odd mistakes here and there but the use of UDRS is to minimize them and not eradicate them. It can never be eradicated until better systems and better umpires are at place. We have come a long way from not using Home team umpires for Int'l Test tours. If i am not wrong Imran Khan in the late 80's or early 90's specifically asked for neutral umpires especially when he played against India as he had enough with Indian umpires. Since then I am not saying the situation has improved drastically but it is a step in the right direction. One has to take UDRS as a step in the right direction.

We can be very well at the receiving end of the series if we don't have UDRS with Zaheer moving the ball both ways and if good backup is provided by Ishanth, Sreesanth or Munaf. Tendulkar would have already smashed his 100th and 101st century thanks to Simon Taufel and Ian gould in Tests and ODI of last Eng Tour. There is no need of Bucknor in this case as it even happens tp the Taufel's and the Aleem Dar's. Yes UDRS wasn't there then but I would hate to see it repeat again this time if we have the technology and BCCI is so vain and proud not to use it. We could have very well lost the BG Trophy 1st test last year due to lack of UDRS and we were plain lucky for Bowden not to acknowledge mitchell's PLUM lbw shout against Praghyan Ojha. BCCI's reply to that fiasco was epic.

I will be mad at BCCI if we lose the test series and drop to No 2 if there were any howlers for lack of UDRS in this series.

From: Plum on 13th June 2011 07:34 AM [Full View]

Bcci mela pazhi podaringa. Bcci is taking this stand on senior players insostence. Sachin doesn't want udrs. Nor does dhoni. As simple as that. You can see english press mocking theplayers now not bcci. I'd believe that. After lanka tour, indian seniors developed aversion foru udrs that still hasn't gone. But kozhaaila thanni varalaina kooda adhukku bcci dhaane poruppu?

From: 19thmay on 13th June 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

Look how one idiot has written...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...n-in-a-spin.do

From: Plum on 13th June 2011 12:38 PM [Full View]

But since the implementation of DRS, in November 2009, roughly one in every five appeals now results in a dismissal.
India's leading Test runscorer Sachin Tendulkar, for example, has spent years kicking away deliveries from spinners, safe in the knowledge that he is unlikely to be given out.
For this reason, the influential Indian Cricket Board will block a motion to make the technology mandatory when it is proposed at this month's ICC meeting in Hong Kong.

- AF-fu - pArthIngaLA epdi spin pOdaRAngann. adhu dhAn English mentality. idhellAm evanO oru presskAran solRAnnu nenaikkAdhInga. English playerslErundhu admins varikkum ipdi dhAn yOsippAnga. sari nAn edhukku sollaNum - nIngaLE pArka dhAnE pORInga epdi pESaRAingannu.

From: Plum on 13th June 2011 12:42 PM [Full View]

indha politics ellAm purinjikkAma BCCI thangaLOda ego-kAga dhAn UDRS oppose paNdrAngannu solla vENdiyadhy

I agree BCCI is evil but ellAthukkum avangaLaiyE kuttham solla mudiyAdhu. And I maintain that they are less evil than what ECB/ACB have been in the past and will be in the future if given a chance. ( I know I am sounding like Joe talking about Jayalalitha -but unlike him on MK, I agree wholeheartedly that BCCI is evil and are riding roughshod over others for their benefit - and I shamelessly support them on it because the alternative is ECB/ACB doing the same. Plus, I hope it all translates into English and Aussie players being unfairly fined and banned while Indian players get away with all sorts of indiscretions. appO dhAn enakku manasu ARUm given how the reverse has happened all these days

From: Plum on 13th June 2011 01:52 PM [Full View]

url=http://cricketingview.blogspot.com/2011/06/udrs-does-work-most-of-time.html#more]None better than Kartikeya Date to articulate the anti-UDRS POV[/url]

As the stats for the use of DRS in the World Cup show, Umpires make far fewer errors than is imagined, while players are wrong 72% of the time. Only 28% of their reviews at the World Cup were successful

DRS urgently needs to be modified in the following areas:
1. The involvement of the players has to end.
2. The discretion afforded to Umpires has to increase. If the point is to eliminate obvious errors, then it should follow that allowing experts (Umpires) the opportunity for a second look should be sufficient to achieve this.

The only people who are happy with it, are broadcasters and some English player-journalists like John Emburey who act as though the front foot LBW was made possible by DRS, even though batsmen, mainly hapless English batsmen, have been suffering front foot LBW decisions at the hands of spin bowlers over the last 20 years. Anil Kumble and Shane Warne have had much much more to do with the increase in front foot LBW decisions than DRS

DRS is a clumsy contraption which only incidentally deals with obvious mistakes. If that is the designed outcome of a system to identify obvious umpiring errors, then I want to meet those designers.

It becomes more reasonable, not less, with each passing day, to oppose DRS in its current form. Unfortunately, the most important issue in contemporary Cricket is currently being held hostage to partisanship. I'm willing to bet anything that England would be less inclined towards DRS, if they didn't have Graeme Swann and if Anil Kumble was still playing.

And you cant get more reasonable than this:
The title of this post, which is the most persistent point made by people who support the use of DRS, is true, but it is also dumb. Its like saying that a giant machine saw does work of cutting an onion, most of the time. The BCCI for its part, needs to propose alternatives to DRS and do some hard groundwork building up support for them amongst Test playing countries. Merely opposing DRS has its limits. While the BCCI is to be commended for backing its players in this, it needs to play a more constructive role in the debate.

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The fact is instead of trying to work out a solution that works for everyone like Date suggests, ECB wants to impose the current form of UDRS just because it suits them. Hows that for arrogance/tyranny? What do you say of an org like ECB which can influence public opinion to believe that systems suiting its purpose are for the general good? And then try to act sanctimonious that a reasonable position by BCCI is somehow evil?

From: Plum on 13th June 2011 01:54 PM [Full View]

BCCI paravA illai - power irukku dominate paNdrAnga. Power illAmalaiyE ulaga cricket followers opinion-ai thangaLukku sAdhagamA spin pannugiRa, players punishment vivagaArarthil indrum England and Aussiesku bias-A ICC irukkaRA mAdhiri pArthukitta England and Aussie board-ai ennannu solRadhu?

Power illAdhappOvE ipdi dominate paNdrAnga - power irundhAl? Or BCCI-ku konjammum power kuRainjAl? evLO Attam pOduvAnga?

From: sathya_1979 on 13th June 2011 02:02 PM [Full View]

I remember one of the former players (forgot whom) mentioning how the English used to claim one pitch catches on closely fought series in 60's and 70's, when the opponents were comfortably placed - Either on course for victory or saving a test.

From: ajithfederer on 13th June 2011 11:17 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar likes hot spot. He himself has said that. Refer here http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/co...ry/481776.html. ICC couldn't implement hot spot for CWC 2011. Hot spot is now available for Eng series. We should take it. I don't remember Snickometer being used. I even that's available then it's Yahooo.

2.5 m rule is an obvious follY and the ICC later amended it. As i said earlier that this is not a fool proof system. We have to make mistakes, learn it and perfect the system. I wish there was another way. If you have a better way I am all ears for it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8erR5Ws0FA

Originally Posted by Plum

Bcci mela pazhi podaringa. Bcci is taking this stand on senior players insostence. Sachin doesn't want udrs. Nor does dhoni. As simple as that. You can see english press mocking theplayers now not bcci. I'd believe that. After lanka tour, indian seniors developed aversion foru udrs that still hasn't gone. But kozhaaila thanni varalaina kooda adhukku bcci dhaane poruppu?

From: ajithfederer on 13th June 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

Nethae paathen

. Jeez these english media

Originally Posted by Plum

- AF-fu - pArthIngaLA epdi spin pOdaRAngann. adhu dhAn English mentality. idhellAm evanO oru presskAran solRAnnu nenaikkAdhInga. English playerslErundhu admins varikkum ipdi dhAn yOsippAnga. sari nAn edhukku sollaNum - nIngaLE pArka dhAnE pORInga epdi pESaRAingannu.

From: ajithfederer on 13th June 2011 11:49 PM [Full View]

Plum, lets talk some more about the use of DRS along the lines of various dismissals. As far as everyone knows that LBW's are the most controversial/50-50 chances with respect to UDRS Decisions. We definitely need UDRS for inside edge lbw's. Because to the normal eye these things happen so fast and the umpire has less time to react.

Take in case Symonds in bg tropy 2008 he was given out lbw when he clearly inside edged the ball. But it was not visible to the naked eye cause it happens too fast. That was a real fast ball by Kumble. I don't feel any remorse for him because he got away from 30 to 170 in the first innings.

Again obvious howlers like 91 by simon taufel etc be eradicated by a udrs referral. And the good thing with UDRS is they also check for crease no ball before they go for the main decision. Who knows the umpire might have even left that. Take in cue, Wasim jaffer clean bowled brett lee (sydney 2008). There are errors everywhere and this system can catch them.

But we definitely need UDRS for catches (bat pad catches to short leg, Ball dropping in front of the slips and the cover, mid off fielders etc) glove nicks as opposed to the ball hitting the arm etc etc. Take a look at how VVS laxman is out during the first innings of Kolkatta 2001. Warne gets away with it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Y8wnTfGng

Last year during SA Tour when sachin made 146 I was almost convinced that Tendulkar nicked the ball and boucher took it. Few replays in one particular angle suggested the same and I was almost convinced and even wrote here in tendulkar thread. LM then noticed a discussion in orkut and questioned me that guys in orkut are saying that the ball dropped before boucher. I said to lm that it was indeed out. Then another hubber vicky(vigneshwaran) explained me that in another angle they showed that the ball bounced in front off boucher. Guess what LM and vicky were right and I was wrong. We definitely need technology in that case and somewhat miraculously the umpire was right in giving tendulkar not out.

I believe that it is these kind of decisions that affect us the most. Only by learning to use them properly we can improve it.

From: 19thmay on 14th June 2011 10:44 AM [Full View]

You are right Stan. But ICC should come up with clear set of rules before implementing it. I am OK with inside edge, hot spot, clear catches etc... but I am still not convinced about impact inside,outside, pitches inline, 2.5 m. Then they should also consider the wind speed, ball speed, swing etc... how they are very sure that ball will hit the stumps if it pitches inline? wind might deflect it right?

From: Plum on 14th June 2011 12:27 PM [Full View]

AF, I refer you to K Date's blog post.
Plus, my thing is that if you are going to have Taufel and Dar officiating with an equally unbiased, competent umpire to man the television, then I am all for UDRS.

You saw yesterday how the Windian umpire showed kolai veRi against India - he is not alone in World Cricket. Lot of players, umpires, admins from other countries have kolai veRi against India. They'll use any such chance to be biased against India.

By having UDRS, without Taufel and Dar, what it means is one more third umpire against India apart from 2 on field umpires. What will happen is irrespective of what the rules and guidelines are, they'll interpret close calls in favour of India's opponent.
What this means is India will review and their review will be rejected unless it is crystal clear in UDRS review that there is no choice but to give it in India's favour. OTOH, opponent's review will be upheld unless there is clear evidence that it cannot be given in their favour. Even minor doubt will be interpreted in opposition's favour.

In my opinion, this way the percentage of calls that will go against India is more likely to be higher than what we get out of UDRS. The Symonds Stumping of 2008 for instance, even by chance onfield umpire gives it out, Symonds will refer it and the third umpire will use UDRS to reject it. This is what will happen - what we are thinking is Ricky's shenaignans will be exposed but it wont work that way in practice. As long as you have anti-India ICC admins, minor office bearers, Players, Umpires and Match referees.

What I propose is let's get our Tarapores and Bansals into Elite Committee. Then I will whole heartedly support UDRS - although our umpirees might a) either still screw up against India throuigh their incompetence b) take money from match fixers and give decisions against India. That risk will be there

From: ajithfederer on 14th June 2011 11:28 PM [Full View]

If there is an uglier top three in the world than Andrew Strauss, Cook and Trott, I don't know of it.

Graeme Swann is grateful for England's prolific top three but says he wouldn't pay to watch them bat
June 14, 2011

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...te/519059.html

From: Plum on 14th June 2011 11:43 PM [Full View]

Swann

. One of the refreshing characters ever to play for England. Epdi ellaam sledge paNNa pORANO indian playersai

From: ajithfederer on 16th June 2011 12:41 AM [Full View]

Swann: Not using DRS can backfire on India
15/6/2011 06:45 AM
Sportal

I think it is a shame we are not going to use it because it is a very positive thing that has been introduced in the game," Swann was quoted as saying by The Mirror.

He added: "I think India do trust the technology. You could make that excuse but I think it’s proved to be pretty accurate. It saves as many batmen as it sends to the stocks."

"I don’t know if it is distrust of technology or a bit of kidology on their part. If BCCI doesn't want to use it, fair enough."

"Maybe we will get a couple that would have been ¬overturned and it would be quite amusing if that happened."

Swann said the introduction of technology has aided umpires in making correct decisions.

"A few years ago not having UDRS would have been a blow but what has happened is that umpires are far happier to give LBWs out on the front foot," said the off-spinner.

He added: "Umpires have been going back and studying videos and they have learnt from the mistakes of the past and are more willing to give things out."

http://www.sportal.co.in/cricket-new...ackfire-126430

From: ajithfederer on 16th June 2011 12:55 AM [Full View]

1. Plum I don't understand the head or tale of Karthikeya's post. Perhaps you can tone it down to my layman levels.

2. Taufel and Dar can't officiate every Indian game. These Tarapore's and Bansai's can never make it to the Elite panel. Even if they make it they can't stand for Indian matches. Neutral system u see.

3. I didn't see the WI-India match. What happened?. Pointing out odd instances and asserting everything to anti-India sounds lame. Innum evvalavu naal idhayae sollikittu irukka poringa?. You have to tell me what were the close calls that were given in favor of India's opponent and in what matches.

4. You cannot expect the whole cricketing world to change overnight. But what you can do is infiltrate them and take em down.

I say if we have hotspot+snickometer in this series we take UDRS. May be you and BCCI will be very satisfied if we end up losing the series and the ranking.

Originally Posted by Plum

AF, I refer you to K Date's blog post.
Plus, my thing is that if you are going to have Taufel and Dar officiating with an equally unbiased, competent umpire to man the television, then I am all for UDRS.

You saw yesterday how the Windian umpire showed kolai veRi against India - he is not alone in World Cricket. Lot of players, umpires, admins from other countries have kolai veRi against India. They'll use any such chance to be biased against India.

By having UDRS, without Taufel and Dar, what it means is one more third umpire against India apart from 2 on field umpires. What will happen is irrespective of what the rules and guidelines are, they'll interpret close calls in favour of India's opponent.
What this means is India will review and their review will be rejected unless it is crystal clear in UDRS review that there is no choice but to give it in India's favour. OTOH, opponent's review will be upheld unless there is clear evidence that it cannot be given in their favour. Even minor doubt will be interpreted in opposition's favour.

In my opinion, this way the percentage of calls that will go against India is more likely to be higher than what we get out of UDRS. The Symonds Stumping of 2008 for instance, even by chance onfield umpire gives it out, Symonds will refer it and the third umpire will use UDRS to reject it. This is what will happen - what we are thinking is Ricky's shenaignans will be exposed but it wont work that way in practice. As long as you have anti-India ICC admins, minor office bearers, Players, Umpires and Match referees.

What I propose is let's get our Tarapores and Bansals into Elite Committee. Then I will whole heartedly support UDRS - although our umpirees might a) either still screw up against India throuigh their incompetence b) take money from match fixers and give decisions against India. That risk will be there

From: ajithfederer on 16th June 2011 01:03 AM [Full View]

Did India use UDRS in any other Test or ODIseries(es) other than the 2008 Sri Lankan Tour and the recent world cup?. If i am not wrong the answer is NO, they didn't use it in any series(es) other than these two. I am surprised that these guys have everything figured out in just 2 events!!!.

From: V_S on 16th June 2011 01:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

The Symonds Stumping of 2008 for instance, even by chance onfield umpire gives it out, Symonds will refer it and the third umpire will use UDRS to reject it.

Plum,
May be I am thinking too straight, but if an appeal is being reviewed by UDRS or the third umpire, the decision what they give, is just what they see from the system right?
By your statement, what do you mean by third umpire will use UDRS and 'reject it'. Even if the system and replays says he is out, he will not be given out? Please explain, too confused.

From: ajithfederer on 16th June 2011 01:57 AM [Full View]

Symonds was clearly out but it was not given out by the 3rd umpire. That's what he means by that statement. He has a point there but I have not seen/heard any total blunders thereafter.

From: ajithfederer on 16th June 2011 02:05 AM [Full View]

V-S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI1O0uwx2Mc

In this video

@ 01:29 Symonds is out stumped by bhajji. Kelattu paradesi bucknor didn't ask for 3rd umpire.

@ 04:16 Symonds is again stumped by Kumble. 3rd umpire bruce oxenford from australia doesn't give it out. This is what plum's reffering to
This is all before a clean nick wasn't given by the same bugger bucknor.

From: V_S on 16th June 2011 02:07 AM [Full View]

Thanks a_f. Even everyone watching on TV knows he is out by the replays but still the third umpire ruled that not out? That was unbelievable and not good for cricket.

From: V_S on 16th June 2011 02:19 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

V-S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI1O0uwx2Mc

In this video

@ 01:29 Symonds is out stumped by bhajji. Kelattu paradesi bucknor didn't ask for 3rd umpire.

@ 04:16 Symonds is again stumped by Kumble. 3rd umpire bruce oxenford from australia doesn't give it out. This is what plum's reffering to
This is all before a clean nick wasn't given by the same bugger bucknor.

Yes, @1:29 on line that is out. Dumb Bucknor. @4:16, eventhough it is close the replay clearly shows his foot in not on ground when the bails were off. Unbelievable stuff. Two great blunders.
But first one there is no third umpire involved so we can't blame third umpire, all fault with Steve Bucknor. Second, third umpire cleverly giving benefit of doubt to batsmen, just like he is giving benefit of doubt himself for his eye sight.

But I agree with you, these mistakes won't happen with every third umpire and hope the third eye will definitely help cricket.

Thanks a_f for sharing the video.

From: V_S on 16th June 2011 02:58 AM [Full View]

Yeah now I remember watching this match after watching the whole video. Full family of umpiring blunders.

I was feverish after watching India lose and how Australians won (with no credit to them). I think this is the last of the 16 test match wins for Australia right and in the third test we drew with them and breaking their continuous run.

From: raajarasigan on 16th June 2011 10:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by V_S

I think this is the last of the 16 test match wins for Australia right and in the third test we drew with them and breaking their continuous run.

Third test at Perth - we won

reg sydney test, though there were quite a lot of pathetic umpiring errors, we could have still managed a draw.

From: Plum on 16th June 2011 10:43 AM [Full View]

Af, its like this. Even if we lose due to a howler withour udrs, I will not be perturbed because
A) if udrs had been there, no guarantee that we will get a howler overturned by the third umpire
B) 100% guarantee that other howlers against oppn will be reviewed qnd given in their favour
So for us it will be a case of uLLadhum pOchudA noLLa kaNNA

From: Plum on 16th June 2011 10:47 AM [Full View]

There is a reason why Dhoni says he will not buy a life jacket without a warranty. This is not even just without warranty. This is a life jacket with holes.
Dhoni -

for his stance and analogy

From: satissh_r on 16th June 2011 11:34 AM [Full View]

Yeah perfect analogy! The WC was proof enough that it isn't foolproof yet

From: Plum on 16th June 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

My wish: England use UDRS. Swann gets injured and doesnt play. Oppn spinner is of similar type and enjoys the advantage UDRS gives to bowlers like Swann and England get decimated. appO pArkalAm England are how enthusiastic towards UDRS-nu.
Only problem is there isno such spinner in any team. Definitely not in Sri Lankan team

From: SoftSword on 16th June 2011 02:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

My wish: England use UDRS. Swann gets injured and doesnt play. Oppn spinner is of similar type and enjoys the advantage UDRS gives to bowlers like Swann and England get decimated. appO pArkalAm England are how enthusiastic towards UDRS-nu.
Only problem is there isno such spinner in any team. Definitely not in Sri Lankan team

plum... chatterjee'ya marandhutteenga...
maatthu nadandhuda povudhu....

From: Plum on 16th June 2011 02:40 PM [Full View]

- ippOllAm antenna alertla irukkaRadhillai,
But Nadal, England Cricket TeamlAm epdiyum namma chatterjeekku appArpattavangaLA irukkAnga. jeyichu tholaichittu pOgattum. wht to do

From: SoftSword on 16th June 2011 03:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

- ippOllAm antenna alertla irukkaRadhillai,
But Nadal, England Cricket TeamlAm epdiyum namma chatterjeekku appArpattavangaLA irukkAnga. jeyichu tholaichittu pOgattum. wht to do

mm alright now.
perfect middle.

From: ajithfederer on 17th June 2011 02:31 AM [Full View]

At last some sense prevails Tendulkar says what I have been crying out loud here

Decision Review System
Consistency the key to DRS - Tendulkar

Sharda Ugra

June 16, 2011

The BCCI's refusal to accept the Decision Review System (DRS) for the forthcoming tour of England is a clear indication that India's stand on the subject has not moved from its team's initial reaction to the referral system in the 2008 series versus Sri Lanka. The system may now have been widely accepted around the world and the technology improved, yet the BCCI has not had any formal meetings with the Indian cricketers about their responses to the DRS in ICC events since their 2008 experience.

Sachin Tendulkar's name is often taken as one of the two Indian players (captain MS Dhoni the other) who is resistant to the referral system and therefore tacitly responsible for the BCCI's continuous refusal of the DRS. On Thursday, Tendulkar reiterated to ESPNcricinfo, "I am not against DRS, but I feel it will be more effective with the support of the Snickometer and Hot Spot technology. This will give more consistent results."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...800/130875.jpg

The BCCI's resistance to the DRS is centered around its ball tracker predictor path but in the case of the England series, ignored the availability of Hot Spot as part of the DRS. The thermal imaging cameras providing an extra layer of information about the point of impact to third umpires that can make up for inaccuracies of the predictor path.

BCCI president Shashank Manohar said to ESPNcricinfo, "I have even told the ICC that we have no problem with Hot Spot. Our objection is to ball tracking.... it becomes just a case of someone else's imagination versus the umpire's imagination."

While Tendulkar wanted all available technology to be merged to come closest to 100% accuracy and be of the best use in the DRS, his opinion came close to that of both Virender Sehwag and Rahul Dravid who expressed support of the referral system, despite the Sri Lanka experience and early technological errors.

In the World Cup, however, Dhoni had called the DRS, the "adulteration" of technology and human decision-making.

More than one player on the Indian team has said in private that the DRS had often benefitted them during the World Cup. Despite Sehwag getting two referrals going against him in the tournament, he told a television reporter that he still supported the system as it had given him the opportunity to ask for reviews of decisions he doubted."

Yet decisions around the DRS and its use depends not on player opinion, but official approval. BCCI officials were due to travel to Australia late last year during the Ashes to study the Virtual Eye technology being used by the official broadcasters Channel 9, but the trip was cancelled. Manohar said a presentation made by the Hawk-Eye to the BCCI in Chennai at the time did not convince the officials of the accuracy of the technology either.

As the BCCI remains adamant about the DRS, its technological base keeps improving. The first pictures of a system called Hot Track were tried out during the Ashes which merged Virtual Eye and Hot Spot, and use the Hot Spot point of impact to give extra information to the predictor path. BBG Sports, the owners of the Hot Spot, now own two new cameras that are being set up to be faster, offering more frames per second, greater clarity and greater flexibility.

Neither Hot Spot nor the Snicko, is part of the ICC's list of minimum technology requirements for the DRS. The question of whether there will be changes in the referral requirements or if the DRS should be made mandatory across all series, however, is dependent once again on the ICC's annual meeting in Hong Kong at the end of this month.

Sharda Ugra is senior editor at ESPNcricinfo
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© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/co...ry/519312.html

From: ajithfederer on 17th June 2011 02:33 AM [Full View]

.................

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

1. Plum I don't understand the head or tale of Karthikeya's post. Perhaps you can tone it down to my layman levels.

2. Taufel and Dar can't officiate every Indian game. These Tarapore's and Bansai's can never make it to the Elite panel. Even if they make it they can't stand for Indian matches. Neutral system u see.

3. I didn't see the WI-India match. What happened?. Pointing out odd instances and asserting everything to anti-India sounds lame. Innum evvalavu naal idhayae sollikittu irukka poringa?. You have to tell me what were the close calls that were given in favor of India's opponent and in what matches.

4. You cannot expect the whole cricketing world to change overnight. But what you can do is infiltrate them and take em down.

I say if we have hotspot+snickometer in this series we take UDRS. .

From: ajithfederer on 18th June 2011 11:17 PM [Full View]

England must send a message to India by finishing off Sri Lankans

By Nasser Hussain

Last updated at 1:29 AM on 16th June 2011

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...#ixzz1PePUknOy

This may feel like a low-key series, but it's important England rise above the apathy and dispose of a troubled Sri Lanka side over the next few days.

A 1-0 series win would feel like a bit of an anti-climax after the last-minute heroics in Cardiff. With India on the horizon, Andrew Strauss will be desperate to make a statement - dodgy weather permitting.
Getting the best out of Broad

There's been a bit of talk recently about Stuart Broad's value to the side. With the batting depth England have, the runs he can bring at No 8 should not come into the equation: it's all about choosing the three best seamers to accompany Graeme Swann, and when Broad is on song he is one of those three.

His injury problems have not helped his search for consistency, although I suspect he's still not sure what sort of bowler he wants to be: bang it in or pitch it up? I feel he's erred too much on the short side and he's got to rediscover his knack of getting top-order batsmen out.

He bounced out the Sri Lankan tail in Cardiff but the way he bowls to Tendulkar and Dravid later this summer will tell us more about the direction he's going in.

Yes, he's averaging a few too many with the ball but I like the aggression he brings to this England team. Give him time to rediscover his rhythm at first change and I think he'll be fine.
Sri Lanka's problems

Unless the pitch suddenly becomes a dust bowl it's hard to see Sri Lanka taking 20 English wickets. They will also be without their captain Tillekeratne Dilshan, who scored a superb 193 at Lord's, while Kumar Sangakkara is a reluctant leader.

England will have noted their flaky middle order, too: when their bowlers got their act together at Lord's the Sri Lankans caved in. In theory, they are there for the taking.
The captain's challenge

There 's no question Andrew Strauss should be England's captain and opening batsman but captains always find life easier when they're telling their team-mates what to do from a position of authority.

And that means Strauss will want some runs - especially because people are starting to look at his record against left-arm seamers.
In the line of fire: Strauss has managed only one Test century in his last 33 innings

In the line of fire: Strauss has managed only one Test century in his last 33 innings

He will deny there's an issue because that's what sportsmen do: it's a psychological trick to prevent the intrusion of negative thoughts. But a hundred here will set him up perfectly for India's left-arm quick Zaheer Khan.
The pitch

The Rose Bowl has overcome a few teething problems to become one of the best batting strips in the country but there should still be more help for the spinners here than there was at Lord's, which has become a bit of a slow bowler's graveyard. I expect to see Swann get a bit of turn and bounce - and if Sri Lanka pick two spinners it could be their best chance of springing a surprise. But it's hard to see anything other than an England win or a rain-affected draw.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...#ixzz1PePA5o2P

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st June 2011 03:37 PM [Full View]

Get Ready folks, Andrew Struass Waiting ....

>>Andrew Strauss had plenty to be frustrated about as England's Test series against Sri Lanka dribbled to a damp conclusion at the Rose Bowl on Monday. He was frustrated by the weather that closed in once again at tea; he was frustrated by his own dropped catch off Rangana Herath in the morning session that might have prised an opportunity for England to press for victory. And he was frustrated by his personal return of 27 runs in four innings, which now means he'll be playing for Somerset against the Indian tourists next month, in a bid to find form before the first Test at Lord's. <<

Remember this is "Best of British" ! And they Claim they can claim the number one spot !!! They struggled againts a weak Lankan Bowling attack (No Murali/Malinga/Vass) and They think they can take on the "Formidable" indian batting line up !

From: Plum on 21st June 2011 06:31 PM [Full View]

"Formidable" Indian lineup is shaky enough - with two stalwarts it still folded for 246 against West Indies. England always do well when they are underdogs - the british bulldong spirit comes to the fore. Against India, they'll fight to the core and outshine them. They are not good when they are favourites. India is in for major trouble - they havent lost a series to England in 15 years. Now's a good time to lose one. They havent won a series in England for 25 years. It's not going to change this year

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st June 2011 06:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

"Formidable" Indian lineup is shaky enough - with two stalwarts it still folded for 246 against West Indies

Agreed! That was below par against a "County" Team!

Originally Posted by Plum

England always do well when they are underdogs

Yes, We saw that in the last 2 Test matches

Originally Posted by Plum

the british bulldong spirit comes to the fore

More like "British Bacon" than "bull dog"

From: ajithfederer on 22nd June 2011 04:36 AM [Full View]

England v India 2011
'England are ready for India' - Boycott

Sari da dei, romba salambadhe.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/520009.html

From: scorpio on 23rd June 2011 05:52 PM [Full View]

Outvote India on DRS: Boycott

Former England batsman Geoffrey Boycott feels cricket-playing countries should combine to outvote BCCI's opposition to the Decision Review System in the ICC even though most of them are "frightened to death of India's financial power".

"If a majority of the ICC countries believe that the DRS is a good improvement for international cricket, they should vote for it and say, 'Sorry India, you are in a minority.' It's supposed to be a democracy around the world, where the majority takes precedence," Boycott said.

"But there is fear to offend, and some countries are totally afraid to offend India. The sooner they get around to it and say, 'No. Since a majority of us believe it is good, we're going to do it,' the better. Simple as that. India won't like it, but you can't be run by one country," he added.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...on-drs-boycott

If any of you know more about what BCCI's richness has got to do with fear, pilis explain.

Endha Cricket board-kkavadhu financial problem-na India tour panNinaa thaan seri aaguma? If Eng/SA/Aus tours them or plays with them, avungalukku paNam kidaikaadhaa?

From: wizzy on 23rd June 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

first post in this new forum..like the new look

obnoxious weed bowled absolute dire..he kept bowling short and Dhoni had to employ a fly gully to protect 4s.
Raina outbowled him and looked more likely to pick a wicket.weed's batting shouldn't paper over his bowling cracks..Bravo and co sucked against Ajmal..weed would do well to watch Ajmal video's and learn to bowl a fuller length to get the batsman forward.

It is frustrating to see a 'senior' bowler with 390+ wickets getting outbowled by part timers and can't string together a testing over without dropping it short..his usual excuse for not taking wickets in the subcontinent was that the pitches were slow and low but this pitch has everything that the a spinner needs which is turn,zip and bounce..Ajmal or Swann would have caused havoc against this hapless Windies batsman on this tricky pitch.

Dravid should be banging his head against a wall to watch this short and wide stuff from slips after scoring a masterful 100.

The pitch map of Raina and Weed would shed more light on his ineffectiveness

http://i51.tinypic.com/14xmb1g.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2lmtafp.jpg

From: sathya_1979 on 23rd June 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

first post in this new forum..like the new look

obnoxious weed bowled absolute dire..he kept bowling short and Dhoni had to employ a fly gully to protect 4s.
Raina outbowled him and looked more likely to pick a wicket.weed's batting shouldn't paper over his bowling cracks..Bravo and co sucked against Ajmal..weed would do well to watch Ajmal video's and learn to bowl a fuller length to get the batsman forward.

It is frustrating to see a 'senior' bowler with 390+ wickets getting outbowled by part timers and can't string together a testing over without dropping it short..his usual excuse for not taking wickets in the subcontinent was that the pitches were slow and low but this pitch has everything that the a spinner needs which is turn,zip and bounce..Ajmal or Swann would have caused havoc against this hapless Windies batsman on this tricky pitch.

Dravid should be banging his head against a wall to watch this short and wide stuff from slips after scoring a masterful 100.

The pitch map of Raina and Weed would shed more light on his ineffectiveness

http://i51.tinypic.com/14xmb1g.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2lmtafp.jpg

Welcome, Mr. Plum will like you

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 01:11 AM [Full View]

What must England do to become world No1 this summer?

Posted by
Rich Flower Thursday 26 May 2011 14.42 BST
guardian.co.uk

England must either win all seven of their Tests this summer, or hope India slip up, if they are to top the ICC's world rankings

Andrew Strauss has said that England's goal this summer is to take "a step forward to becoming the No1 Test side in the world". How realistic a goal is that, though? The International Cricket Council rankings system is exceptionally complicated, but with the help of a calculator it is possible to work out precisely what England need to happen. The good news for Strauss is that they do control their own destiny – should England win every one of their Tests against Sri Lanka and India, they will move to the top of the rankings. Otherwise, though, things become more complicated.

The rankings system

Teams are awarded points according to how many matches they win or draw in a series and whether or not they win the series outright. The rating points each team has earned can only be determined at the end of the series, using the following formula:

– First each team's series result must be established. This is found by awarding 1 point for a win or half a point for a draw. Teams earn a further bonus point for winning the series, or half a bonus point if the series is drawn.

– If the teams were within 40 points of each other at the start of the series, then the series result is then multiplied by the opponent's pre-series rating, plus 50. This is then added to a figure that is produced by multiplying the opponent's series result by their pre-series rating, minus 50.

– If the teams were 40 or more points apart at the start of the series, then the stronger team multiplies their series result by their own pre-series rating, plus 10. This is then added to a figure that is produced by multiplying the opponent's series result by the stronger team's pre-series rating, minus 90.

– If the teams were 40 or more points apart at the start of the series, then the weaker team multiplies their series result by their own pre-series rating, plus 90. This is then added to a figure that is produced by multiplying the opponent's series result by the weaker team's pre-series rating, minus 10.

– The figures established using these formulas are then added to the team's total points figure, which in turn is divided by their total number of matches played, plus one, to produce the team's updated rating.

In short, then, more points are awarded for results against teams that are high in the rankings, whereas defeats by teams towards the bottom of the rankings will hurt the rating more significantly than one against a similarly-ranked side.

Because England and Sri Lanka are so close together in the rankings, they will both reap similar rewards from a victory, but any mistakes by India in the Caribbean could cost them dearly as West Indies are so far below them in the ICC table.

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 01:12 AM [Full View]

Current rankings:

India 128

South Africa 117

England 115

Sri Lanka 109

Australia 107

Pakistan 90

West Indies 86

New Zealand 78

Bangladesh 7

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 01:13 AM [Full View]

What England need to do:

1. Beat Sri Lanka England must win as many Tests as possible to close the gap on India and avoid being overtaken by the Sri Lankans. England could pick up 636 ranking points if they beat Sri Lanka 3-0, enough for them to move ahead of South Africa in second place with an average rating of 118. Lose the series, however, and they will slip behind Sri Lanka into fourth.

Lose 1-0 or 2-1 = Eng 112 SL 113

Lose 2-0 = Eng 111 SL 115

Lose 3-0 = Eng 110 SL 116

Draw = Eng 114 Sri 110

Win 1-0 or 2-1 = Eng 116 SL 107 - This is their present ranking of Eng and SL.

Win 2-0 = Eng 117 SL 105

Win 3-0 = Eng 118 SL 104

2. Hope India slip up Because of the large difference in rating between the two sides, anything other than a 3-0 win for India will see their rating reduced.

Lose 1-0 or 2-1 = Ind 122

Lose 2-0 = Ind 121

Lose 3-0 = Ind 120

Draw = Ind 124

Win 1-0 or 2-1 = Ind 126

Win 2-0 = Ind 127

Win 3-0 = Ind 128

3. Beat India Should India sweep their series against West Indies, then England's only hope of going top of the rankings lies with a perfect summer. At that stage even a 3-0 win for England over India would leave them one point behind their opponents in second place. It would seem that England's best hope lies in West Indies making their job easier by upsetting India.

(Possible permutations, if both teams win their previous series 3-0)

Win 1-0 or 2-1 = Eng 121 Ind 125

Win 2-0 or 3-1 = Eng 122 Ind 124

Win 3-0 = Eng 123 Ind 124

Win 4-0 = Eng 124 Ind 123

Draw 0-0 or 2-2 = Eng 119 Ind 127

Draw 1-1 = Eng 122 Ind 130

Lose 1-0 or 2-1 = Eng 117 Ind 129

Lose 2-0 or 3-1 = Eng 117 Ind 130

Lose 3-0 = Eng 116 Ind 131

Lose 4-0 = Eng 114 Ind 132

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...-world-no1-how

A good informative post on Rankings by The Guardian

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 01:19 AM [Full View]

Looks like, Poms have a good chance of grabbing the 2nd rank even if they lose 2 tests or if they draw 2 matches. Chaa

From: VinodKumar's on 24th June 2011 01:43 AM [Full View]

Thanks, Stan. I was about to ask you the probablity of changes from the outcome of England series. I will read it at home.

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 01:55 AM [Full View]

The above Guardian blog post is from May 26, 2011. So I think we may have to adjust the ranking points a little since this was based on the info from that date. However I would believe the LOGIC is sound.

Vinod, That is the method to calculate and it has some pretty complex calculations. It would be easy to understand if you take the ranking points and work out some series win/loss scenarios with margins like (1-0,2-0). Working with numbers is the only way to understand the rankings. Oru rendu moonu thadavai padichu onnume puriala.

From: VinodKumar's on 24th June 2011 01:59 AM [Full View]

Night work out pannuvom

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 02:08 AM [Full View]

Sure

. /;'[].//

From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2011 09:44 AM [Full View]

Make pitches tough for India - Tremlett - Soringa aafisar..

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/520496.html

From: Sourav on 24th June 2011 10:14 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Make pitches tough for India - Tremlett - Soringa aafisar..

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/520496.html

enga kitta bowlers illaiya... indian pace bowlers r known for using the bowling-friendly conditions very well....

From: sathya_1979 on 24th June 2011 10:24 AM [Full View]

Solli adi vaanguradhu England Policy, sollaama adikkaradhu namma policy

From: Plum on 24th June 2011 02:21 PM [Full View]

Tremlett will not only take wickets against India, sila perusungaLukku injuryum koduppAn.

Broad-um correctA formku vandhuduvAn.

Tough series for India, who are prone to repeated batting collapses.

I feel Sachin will pay for prioritising IPL over Test Cricket(WI series) with a poor to average series in England. India will lose or draw the series, thereby keeping english and aussie people happy that they can continue to say that the ICC rankings are a lie and India are useless

From: ajithfederer on 25th June 2011 01:31 AM [Full View]

'Watching India play against WI, don't think England have much to be worried about'

Annan Andrew flintoff on twitter.

From: omega on 25th June 2011 01:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

'Watching India play against WI, don't think England have much to be worried about'

Annan Andrew flintoff on twitter.

Does he know that its the B team that is touring WI?

From: ajithfederer on 25th June 2011 02:11 AM [Full View]

No clue omega bro.

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th June 2011 07:48 AM [Full View]

same English team did thadavals in WI in their last series, annanukku adhellam marandhu pochu pola. This guys are very afraid and that's why blabber all these things. Good for us though.

From: Plum on 25th June 2011 08:23 AM [Full View]

LM, sirina siringa. Flint, Gough and Trem will have the last laugh. After the England tour, namma ellAm gap chip. Vonly England talking...

From: satissh_r on 29th June 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

Having watched Praveen Kumar bowl in the IPL and WI, I'm waiting to see how he performs in England. He'll be quite an handful in those conditions and I hope we play him as the 3rd seamer..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 29th June 2011 10:15 PM [Full View]

adadE marupadiyum Inglees karan "pEsa" aarambichutana

having said that "omlette", saary Tremlett has been good !

From: Sourav on 1st July 2011 09:24 AM [Full View]

squad selection tmrw....

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2011 11:16 AM [Full View]

Indha series mudiyara varaikkum wait pannalame, enna avasaram

From: Plum on 1st July 2011 11:25 AM [Full View]

LM, Except for Kohli, no one else is going to throw a surprise in the remaining 3 innings of the test series. ennamO indha series mudiyaRa varaikkum wait paNNinA, Abhinav maRRum Vijayan Edho surprise century adikkaRA mAdhiri solRInga?

Kohli still has today to impress. I guess he will. I think this will be the squad - based on prev performances, domestic record and performance in WI tour, including today's 4th day play by Kohli

Gautam G
Viru S
R Dravid
V Laxman
S Tendulkar
Yuvraj Singh
S Raina
MS Dhoni
H Singh
Z Khan, if fit
I Sharma
Munaf Patel
Some surprise medium pacer - A Mithun or "HS" Aravind, or VRV or Unadkat or Umesh Yadav or some unknown name picked from the hat
Praveen Kumar
A Mishra

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st July 2011 11:39 AM [Full View]

With question marks over Sehwag's fitness, we need time to judge other options. Also, who is going to be the third bowler? Praveen or Sreesanth?

From: Plum on 1st July 2011 02:08 PM [Full View]

Third bowler - Praveen ofcourse. Sreesanth is too unreliable.

From: scorpio on 1st July 2011 02:25 PM [Full View]

Sehwag's readiness for England tour is still in doubt. Gambhir has declared himself fit and available for selection. Sehwag illEnna who'd open with Gambhir?

Thirumba Vijay or Mukund-aa?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2011 02:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

"HS" Aravind

redundancy!

From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2011 02:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Sehwag's readiness for England tour is still in doubt. Gambhir has declared himself fit and available for selection. Sehwag illEnna who'd open with Gambhir?

Thirumba Vijay or Mukund-aa?

DK did well during last tour

From: scorpio on 1st July 2011 02:39 PM [Full View]

DK-vaa? Domestic season-la sameebathula appadi oNNum bright-aa pannalayE. His IPL4 stint also was below par only though IPL performance can't be a selection factor for tests. Rohiths and Kohlis are smart enough not to take the risk of being an opener if at all selected. If only either Vijay or Mukund had capitalized the WI opportunity, azhagaa adutha tour-kkum pOgalaam.

Feel very sorry for Badri. ODI-la sodhappinadhaala WI test playing XI-la idam kedaikkala, adutha international tour vaaippu meendum eppa varum-nnu theriyala.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2011 02:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Feel very sorry for Badri. ODI-la sodhappinadhaala WI test playing XI-la idam kedaikkala, adutha international tour vaaippu meendum eppa varum-nnu theriyala.

idhukku mElayum kedaikkumnu nambureengaLA? Raina weathered the weakness of short ball and cemented his place. Kohli backup and consistent performance in ODI, Pujara also waiting in the wings. Badri kashtamdhaan.

From: scorpio on 1st July 2011 02:59 PM [Full View]

Sathya- Badri-kku enough chances kodukkalai-nnu naan feel paNrEn. He has had a very good domestic season and an excellent IPL. At times, Plum Kohli-kku arulvaakku solrappa, ivan sodhappinaa Badrikku chance kedaikumEnnu oru nappaasai etti paarkudhu. Again, namma pasanga are not smart enough to grab the rare chances thrown at them. If Mukund and Vijay prove me wrong, it will be a good weekend.

I'm very happy for Raina. England tour-la Yuvaraasan-um vandhuduvaan. So, it would end up as a toss between Raina & Yuvi. Hope Raina carries his good form to England also. Rest-E edukkaama continuous-aa aadaraan vErE.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2011 03:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Sathya- Badri-kku enough chances kodukkalai-nnu naan feel paNrEn. He has had a very good domestic season and an excellent IPL. At times, Plum Kohli-kku arulvaakku solrappa, ivan sodhappinaa Badrikku chance kedaikumEnnu oru nappaasai etti paarkudhu. Again, namma pasanga are not smart enough to grab the rare chances thrown at them. If Mukund and Vijay prove me wrong, it will be a good weekend.

I'm very happy for Raina. England tour-la Yuvaraasan-um vandhuduvaan. So, it would end up as a toss between Raina & Yuvi. Hope Raina carries his good form to England also. Rest-E edukkaama continuous-aa aadaraan vErE.

same feelings, good talent without realization of the potential

From: Plum on 1st July 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

If Mukund and Vijay prove me wrong, it will be a good weekend.

Scorpio, nInga innum pakkuva padalainu nenaikkaREn. ivanungaLai ellAm nambinA weekend spoil Ayidum. You should learn to be sanguine about TN players' chances - oNNu reNdu chance dhAn kedaikkum, adhaiyum sodhappiduvAnunga. apdiyE neraiya chance kedaichAlum, ezhavu adhu M Vijay-kkum Dinesh Karthik-kum kedaikkum. avainga tamizhnAttu mAnaththai satellite Eththi vERRU gragathukku anuppichduuvAnga

From: raajarasigan on 1st July 2011 03:45 PM [Full View]

விஜய்'எ விடுங்க.. இன்னைக்கு முகுந்த் ஒரு அரை சதம் அடிப்பான்னு தோணுது...

From: Plum on 1st July 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

adhilla RR, 23/0-navunE namma pasanga reNdu pErum ALukku 10 runAvadhu adichiruppAngannu perumaiyA scoreboard open paNNinA Mukund 8*, Vijay 3*. 12 extrasAm

- adhAne pArthEn

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st July 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

adhilla RR, 23/0-navunE namma pasanga reNdu pErum ALukku 10 runAvadhu adichiruppAngannu perumaiyA scoreboard open paNNinA Mukund 8*, Vijay 3*. 12 extrasAm

- adhAne pArthEn

Marsellus Wallace andre sonnaar: "Duck (Pride) Hope"

From: SoftSword on 1st July 2011 04:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Marsellus Wallace andre sonnaar: "Duck (Pride) Hope"

shaw wallace know, who is mars wallace.

From: scorpio on 1st July 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

From CricBuzz

Sehwag doubtful for 1st Test against England

Dashing opener Virender Sehwag's availability will be the bone of contention when the national selectors meet on Saturday to select the Test squad for the cricket tour of England.

While Sachin Tendulkar (rested from the ongoing tour of the West Indies), Zaheer Khan and Gautam Gambhir (recovering from injuries) will be back to bolster the squad, there hasn't yet been any concrete information about the status of Sehwag's injured shoulder that underwent a surgery in May.

A source close to Sehwag said that the opener may just struggle to get fit in time for the first Test as "he is yet to get back the desired strength in his shoulders." The first Test starts from July 21 at the Lord's. India are scheduled to play four Tests and five ODIs during the tour of England.

"We have no information as of now on the status of Sehwag's injury. We will only get to know once we are in Chennai. We have heard that Gautam and Zaheer are fit," a selector preferring anonymity said on Friday.

There is speculation that selectors may just take a gamble by including Sehwag in the team and wait for him to get fit by the time the second Test starts in Nottingham from July 29.

Asked about the poor show by Murali Vijay and Abhinav Mukund in the three innings so far, the selector retorted, "These two (Vijay and Mukund) are the best available replacements for Viru and Gauti. We don't have too many options in opening. Only Parthiv can be another option."

Parthiv is a certainty as a second wicketkeeper.

If Sehwag fails to make it then Vijay, by sheer experience of having a longer stint in the team, may get another international lifeline.

While the other places in the batting order are almost sealed after Raina's back-to-back 50s, the extra middle-order batsman's slot may be a three-way battle between Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and senior-pro Yuvraj Singh.

While Praveen Kumar and Ishant Sharma have sealed their places after impressive show in the West Indies, the young Abhimanyu Mithun may have to battle it out with S Sreesanth for the fourth pacer's slot.

From: Plum on 1st July 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

It is better to take 5 medium pacers to England.
5 Medium Pacers, 2 spinners, two wicket keepers(both of them can play as batsmen), Six batsmen.

Zaheer, Ishant, Praveen, Mithun, Munaf; Bhajji & Mishra/Ojha; Parthiv and Dhoni; Gauti-Viru/Rahane, Rahul, Lax, Ten, Yuvi/Kohli

From: scorpio on 1st July 2011 05:54 PM [Full View]

appo Raina?

From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

A character from the film Pulp Fiction, I guess.

Originally Posted by SoftSword

shaw wallace know, who is mars wallace.

From: SoftSword on 1st July 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

nanum pathaene andha padam...
eppo varudhu andha dialogue?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Er Is there a Team called "England" ??

Must be the "only" Team in the world to include SA /Irish born players, due to their lack of "talents" from their own country ! !

From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Oh yeah that's how they won the ICC World t20 last year. Mainly Morgan, Pietersen and Kieswetter.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

None of them are Ingilis

From: SoftSword on 1st July 2011 11:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

விஜய்'எ விடுங்க.. இன்னைக்கு முகுந்த் ஒரு அரை சதம் அடிப்பான்னு தோணுது...

sugar for ur mouth... ofcourse, 2gm less...

From: Sourav on 2nd July 2011 11:56 AM [Full View]

ICC calls on fans to remember greatest players of all time
Fans will have to submit their list before July 13. The all-time Test XI is being put together to mark the 2000th Test match between India and England that starts on July 21

Dubai: To mark the 2,000th Test match, which will take place between England and India at Lord's from 21 to 25 July, the ICC has called on supporters from across the globe to select their greatest team of all time.

"With the 2,000th Test coming up it is appropriate to remember some of the great players through the ages that have thrilled audiences and inspired us all," said ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat.

"With so many legends of the game to choose from, it is a very difficult task and I'm sure one that will lead to plenty of fond recollection and great debate," Lorgat added in a statement.

Fans will have time until July 13 midnight to make their selections, with the lists to be announced a week before the Lord's Test.

"Test cricket is the pinnacle format of our great sport and it is important we continue to protect and promote it so that it grows even stronger over the next 2,000 matches," he said.

List of players that fans are being asked to vote on:

Opening batsmen (two): Geoffrey Boycott, Sunil Gavaskar, Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton, Hanif Mohammad, Virender Sehwag, Herbert Sutcliffe, Victor Trumper.

Middle-order batsmen (three): Don Bradman, Greg Chappell, Wally Hammond, George Headley, Brian Lara, Javed Miandad, Graeme Pollock, Ricky Ponting, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar.

All-rounder (one): Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Aubrey Faulkner, Richard Hadlee, Jacques Kallis, Imran Khan, Keith Miller, Wilfred Rhodes, Gary Sobers, Frank Worrell.

Wicketkeeper (one): Les Ames, Mark Boucher, Jeff Dujon, Godfrey Evans, Andy Flower, Adam Gilchrist, Alan Knott, Rod Marsh, Clyde Walcott, Wasim Bari.

Fast bowlers (three): Curtley Ambrose, Sydney Barnes, Michael Holding, Dennis Lillee, Ray Lindwall, Malcolm Marshall, Glenn McGrath, Fred Trueman, Courtney Walsh, Wasim Akram.

Spinner (one): Bishen Singh Bedi, Richie Benaud, Lance Gibbs, Clarrie Grimmett, Jim Laker, Anil Kumble, Muttiah Muralidaran, Bill O'Reilly, Derek Underwood, Shane Warne.
Source: PTI

Poll link:
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/events_...team/index.php

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd July 2011 07:22 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/521668.html

The squad: MS Dhoni (capt/wk), Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Abhinav Mukund, Wriddhiman Saha, Harbhajan Singh, Amit Mishra, Zaheer Khan, Sreesanth, Munaf Patel, Ishant Sharma, Praveen Kumar.

From: 19thmay on 2nd July 2011 08:20 PM [Full View]

Saha-ku sukra disai thaan..

From: Sourav on 2nd July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/521668.html

The squad: MS Dhoni (capt/wk), Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Abhinav Mukund, Wriddhiman Saha, Harbhajan Singh, Amit Mishra, Zaheer Khan, Sreesanth, Munaf Patel, Ishant Sharma, Praveen Kumar.

The All-India Senior Selection Committee also selected the squad for the Emerging Players tournament, to be held in Australia in July-August 2011.

Team:

1. Shikhar Dhawan (Captain)

2. Ajinkya Rahane (Vice Captain)

3. S Anirudha

4. Manish Pandey

5. Saurabh Tiwari

6. Manoj Tiwary

7. Ashok Menaria

8. C. Gautam (WK)

9. Ambati Rayudu

10. Rahul Sharma

11. Iqbal Abdullah

12. Umesh Yadav

13. Varun Aaron

14. S Aravind

15. Vinay Kumar

From: Plum on 2nd July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

Emerging players ellAm konjam vayasAna case(for a emerginv plyaer classification)

Farex paavamyA - ippO 3rd testlayAvadhu chance koduppAngaLA? adhula century adichA? Saha varam peRRa wriddhiman will still be the backup keeperA?

From: Plum on 3rd July 2011 02:59 PM [Full View]

Ippo dhaan paarthen. Cheeka borderla ooduruvittaar. Anirudha in emerging players

From: 19thmay on 3rd July 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

So Valthaty can only be a IPL glamour doll, may be he is aged. Chance for Aaron

From: ajithfederer on 3rd July 2011 11:13 PM [Full View]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-VjMpZ8vuGbQ/Tg...52520Field.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 8th July 2011 08:53 AM [Full View]

I'm a week away from peak fitness: Sehwag

Nitin Naik, TNN | Jul 8, 2011

MUMBAI: Virender Sehwag might be nursing a shoulder injury which has kept him away from the limelight, but he hasn't lost the gift of the gab or his intolerance in dealing with impertinence.

"I feel good facing the media after a long gap," he joked on arrival at a promotional event and also said, "I had heard that the rains has deserted Mumbai.

"But since I was coming to this city, may be the rain Gods decided to show up again to welcome me," he said.

He quickly got into serious mode though and didn't share the opinion of the media and the pundits that the search for India's perfect opening pair starts and ends with Sehwag and Gambhir.

Sehwag, while lamenting the fact that the younger crop didn't avail of the opportunities on the West Indies tour, offered a thumbs up to Tamil Nadu's Abhinav Mukund.

Sharing the opinion of the legendary opening batsman, Sunil Gavaskar, who in his TOI column had praised the southpaw for his battling approach, Sehwag said, "Mukund has done well in the West Indies and he is a talented batsman. If you see his domestic record, he has more centuries than half-centuries and he also has a triple hundred," he said.

On the other youngsters missing on the opportunity to make a mark, Sehwag felt, "When the senior players are rested or don't travel on a tour due to injury, talented youngsters are picked and they should exploit such opportunities."

However, he quickly added that Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are blessed with a lot of talent and have done reasonably well.

Known for his clarity and uncluttered approach, the dynamic opener was surprisingly unclear about his injury status. To the media, he stated, "It'll still take me a week to get back to peak fitness and I'll be travelling to NCA in Bangalore to resume batting practice."

However, when a fan questioned him about the same and told him that the media has reported about the possibility of him missing the first Test at Lord's (starting July 21) and be fully fit only for the second Test starting in Trent Bridge (starting July 29), an irritated Sehwag thundered, "Why do you believe everything that's written in the papers? Everything that's written in the papers isn't true."

What is true though is the fact that Sehwag is an uninhibited supporter of the UDRS.

He once again stressed his love for the technology. "I'm a big fan of it. Even the Hawk-Eye is a good tool."

One wonders how the BCCI and Sehwag's idol, Sachin Tendulkar will react to that quote as they haven't been advocates of the hawk-eye and the ball-tracking system.

What they will react positively to is the fact that the opener has made his plans for ace England off-spinner Graeme Swann.

"When they were here in 2008, we faced him well and that too on a fifth-day pitch. We chased 387 to win the Test in Chennai. I will study him and plan accordingly."

If he does master the offie and the potent England attack comprising of James Anderson, Stuart Broad and Chris Tremlett, he should emulate VVS Laxman, who recently became the fourth Indian batsman to achieve the milestone of 8,000 Test runs. He is 306 runs shy of that target at the moment.

Trent Bridge is where he made his mark as a Test opener, scoring a gutsy hundred there in 2002 and if one is a believer in lucky omens, then Trent Bridge could be the venue where the journey from a good opener to a great one is complete.

There's another lucky omen too for all you Sehwag fans. The last time he was part of a touring team as a 17th member, he scored a 150-odd in Adelaide in 2007-08. That was a start of a remarkable comeback. He had missed the first two Tests then. Four years later, he's touring England too and yes as a 17th member.

What's next? Do we see Andrew Strauss worried?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9143016.cms

From: Plum on 8th July 2011 09:27 AM [Full View]

The 17th member thingie could also mean end of the cycle.
I mean last time he was 17th member was the start of revival. This time could be the start of his end as a batsman

From: Sourav on 8th July 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9138665.cms

From: Sourav on 8th July 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

Sharing the opinion of the legendary opening batsman, Sunil Gavaskar, who in his TOI column had praised the southpaw for his battling approach, Sehwag said, "Mukund has done well in the West Indies and he is a talented batsman. If you see his domestic record, he has more centuries than half-centuries and he also has a triple hundred," he said.
//

However, when a fan questioned him about the same and told him that the media has reported about the possibility of him missing the first Test at Lord's (starting July 21) and be fully fit only for the second Test starting in Trent Bridge (starting July 29), an irritated Sehwag thundered, "Why do you believe everything that's written in the papers? Everything that's written in the papers isn't true."
//

it was bcci's official press release which mentioned 'sehwag will join after 2 weeks!' y blaming media?!

What they will react positively to is the fact that the opener has made his plans for ace England off-spinner Graeme Swann. "When they were here in 2008, we faced him well and that too on a fifth-day pitch. We chased 387 to win the Test in Chennai. I will study him and plan accordingly."
// it would be interesting... waiting for this swann vs viru contest for long time....

From: ajithfederer on 9th July 2011 10:08 PM [Full View]

Cook: No more ties, no more draws (Ind - Eng wc game in the bground)
Broad blabbered something
Pieterson: Expect no mercy, champions.

Strauss: India's Tour of England only on sky sports.

An ad while i was watching sl - eng game.

From: ajithfederer on 9th July 2011 10:15 PM [Full View]

GM: Yenda naaye unkitta naan kettena?

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Pieterson: Expect no mercy, champions.

From: sathya_1979 on 9th July 2011 10:30 PM [Full View]

.....

From: sathya_1979 on 9th July 2011 10:31 PM [Full View]

ivanukkellAm vaai illEnaa naai kavvittu pOidum

From: ajithfederer on 11th July 2011 12:43 PM [Full View]

India's bowlers will be all ears for Duncan Fletcher's insisghts on the England batsmen

India's bowlers will be all ears for Duncan Fletcher's insisghts on the England batsmen

All your most intimate secrets have been confessed to your lawyer, mistress or priest — and he, or she, reveals them. That is how the England batsmen who were coached by Duncan Fletcher will feel when he arrives this week, as India’s coach, to dissect them.

09 Jul 2011

But that is how it is and how Test cricket should be, especially in the age when coaches swap sides at the drop of a bat. Every facet of a cricketer’s game and personality is tested in the course of a series of proper length. England’s batsmen know that Fletcher knows, and they have to stay one step ahead.

Fletcher, moreover, has an able adviser to help him enact his plans for England’s batsmen — and he has always worked through his bowling coach, never bypassing him. Fletcher himself is currently on his first assignment in the West Indies, but Eric Simons was brought in as India’s bowling coach by Gary Kirsten, Fletcher’s predecessor, and he has already strengthened the traditionally weakest area of India’s game: their pace attack.

Only a generation ago India would toss the new ball to an opening batsman for a couple of overs, before their three spinners came on.

Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook will sigh for such days before this summer is out, for India have as good an opening pair as any in world cricket: Zaheer Khan, the most skilled left-arm pace bowler since Chaminda Vaas retired from Test cricket and a yard quicker, and the right-arm Ishant Sharma, who has been revived and enhanced by Simons.

For most of their careers, Strauss and Cook have been able to sit back and help themselves as right-arm pace bowlers have bowled over the wicket — and often dropped short and wide. Not any more. Zaheer will swing the ball both ways on a full length, to lure them forward out of their comport zone, while Sharma has become adept at bowling round the wicket, tutored by Simons in getting close to the stumps, as he revealed last week after reaching 100 Test wickets, at the age of 22.

Fletcher was acting as an adviser to South Africa the last time England toured there. Kevin Pietersen’s series became ever less fruitful: in his last four innings the fast bowlers got him before he reached 20. The early bouncer to drive Pietersen back, then the pitch-up ball, did the trick.

If this line of attack does not suffice, there is always Yuvraj Singh and his left-arm ‘spin’. It was India’s captain, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, with his mischievous humour, who set the ‘KP can’t play left armers’ ball rolling. He brought on Yuvraj the moment Pietersen came out to bat in the Chennai Test of December 2009: Pietersen lbw b Yuvraj 1.

Matt Prior did not make his Test debut until after Fletcher’s departure, but he began in England’s one-day team in 2004. And, like Pietersen, South Africa’s bowlers had the measure of him by the end of that series. The early bouncer, in itself, was often enough, before the exploration of any gap between Prior’s bat and pad as he looked to hit through the off side.

Jonathan Trott and Eoin Morgan did not play under Fletcher but they can rest assured that, somewhere, a silver-haired 62 year-old has been watching their dismissals on television.

Trott, in the Southampton Test, ‘nicked off’ when the right-handed Suranga Lakmal went round the wicket and angled across him, to negate Trott’s bottom-handed strength through midwicket. Morgan’s defence will be tested by the same full length and angle as Strauss and Cook.

To supplement India’s opening pair, the likely third seamer is Munaf Patel, a gifted swing bowler of low self-esteem — until Simons pumped up his tyres. Or, given England’s historic weakness against leg spin, Amit Mishra might be slipped in for a Test or two.

Either way, England will be facing the best Test team, one that will be fully briefed, as it should be.

Fletcher's secret knowledge

Andrew Strauss: he likes to pull and cut and dislikes being drawn forward. Zaheer Khan to bowl from over the wicket, and Ishant Sharma from round the wicket

Alaistair Cook: prefers to wait on the crease, to cut and work through midwicket. Has to be drawn forward — Zaheer from over the wicket and Ishant round.

Kevin Pietersen: leaves a gap between bat and pad. A bouncer to stop him plunging forward, then a ball angled in. Or try Yuvraj Singh’s left-arm spin

Ian Bell: no hole in his technique but maybe in his temperament. Has been known to lose patience, open the bat’s face and nick a catch behind

Matt Prior: even more of a gap between bat and pad than Pietersen. So Zaheer to bowl from round the wicket or Ishant from over.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...d-batsmen.html

From: Plum on 11th July 2011 12:49 PM [Full View]

Fletcher's secret knowledge epdi ivarukku therinjudhu?
idhu ivar pOdaRa Red herringA? Scyld must remember that unlike Dravid, Dhoni doesnt read newspapers so much to. He'll not read Scyld and plan accordingly. Groundla pOi assess paNNi strategise paNNippAr - ipdillAm Red Herring pOdaRadhu washtuu Scyld. Try something else.

From: Plum on 11th July 2011 12:51 PM [Full View]

And epdi thAn nInga hype paNNi avanai playing XI-la koNdu vara pArththAlum, we'll not play Amit Mishra and make life easy for you, England

ungaLukku Bhajji dhAn, sangu dhAn.

From: ajithfederer on 12th July 2011 05:51 AM [Full View]

Simons says

Posted: Sun Jul 10 2011, 01:44 hrs New Delhi:

Although he is the bowling coach of the No.1 Test side in the world, Eric Simons has been Team India’s ultimate backdrop man. Speaking to Bharat Sundaresan in the West Indies, Simons talks about his journey so far, while also highlighting the salient features of the five seamers picked for the England tour

Are we going to England with the five best fast bowlers in the country? Secondly, what is your take on the bench strength?

*They are the five guys who have been really knocking on the door. PK is new to the Test team. Munaf has come back to Test cricket but he’s earned his place back the hard way. But you are starting to see a lot of young bowlers make a name and it is really exciting. I recently worked with Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron at Delhi Daredevils but there are other names as well, such as Abhimanyu Mithun, who has got a big tick against his name after the West Indies tour. It’s great for India to see the reservoir of fast bowlers who are out there. The five who are going to England have definitely earned their spots.

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Has Eric Simons finally settled down with the Indian bowlers?

*Very comfortable and very settled. If I reflect back on my time, I probably have learnt as much as I have taught some of the guys. Others will see things a certain way, and I will see things a certain way. We need to and have found a common ground and that’s really been the journey. And it’s very much become a family as I see it and feel about it.

When you started, did you take each fast bowler aside and try to work them separately?

*The natural tendency is make an early impression and say something clever. Or have the bowler go and say I have learnt something from this guy as supposed to let me just watch them for a while. I learned to watch them closely. We have allowed our friendships and relationships to evolve over time. I asked them who their coaches were and what was important to them. Bowlers need checkpoints. So I would try and ask them what they were thinking and what they thought was going wrong in the middle and try and understand them as bowlers. The more I can understand them as individuals, the more I can have those one-on-one relationships and influence it.

Considering you were an outsider, was it difficult replacing someone like Venkatesh Prasad as bowling coach?

*I didn’t know what happened to Venky and how exactly he left. I wasn’t aware of their relationships. The best way to say is that our relationships evolved. Naturally when I came in, they didn’t know who I was. I didn’t have an Allan Donald type of career as a bowler in terms of my reputation. One has to gain confidence and it was crucial in our relationships. What I have found from the Indian cricketers across the board is that they are always trying to learn. So I am sure Venky would have done a great job with the guys and they have learnt from him. But I never ever felt any resistance and I was welcome completely. They have an incredible willingness to learn and absorb information and ask questions.

Which bowler do you see playing an important role in England?

*What excites me is the unit of bowlers across the board. It almost doesn’t bother me which group we select. Just think that there are so many bowlers bowling well, that if someone can’t play or the conditions suit somebody in particular, then I don’t think that we will be weakening our attack regardless of what combination we go in with, whether it is 3-1 or 2-2. Certainly those are conditions where S Sreesanth can do really well and be effective. I think back to the delivery he bowled to Jacques Kallis at Durban. There are few who can do that. So I think he’s going to play a crucial role in England, but I won’t rule out any of the other four, either. It will be an exiciting tour.

Best indian seam attack, eric analyses why

S sreesanth

Sreesanth is coming back from injury. We will know where he is in terms of England after the practice match. He is a very talented guy and I hope he arrives there up to speed. He is a swing bowler and I would like him to bowl a fuller length. I would like to see him make them drive. Sree bowled a spell against Australia at Bangalore and I said to him, ‘this is one of the best spells of fast bowling I have seen.’ He was reversing the ball in and reversing the ball away. It was magnificent. And there are few in the world who can do that. He’s incredibly talented. We make him understand his game-plan and when he is most effective. You also don’t want to take it (the drama) out of him. That’s what makes the man special. He’s an artist in so many ways. He’s a flamboyant personality and people love him. The game needs him.

Munaf patel

I hope Munaf Patel can make a good stake at Test claim in England. He has natural bounce and is actually a natural athlete. He is a casual-looking guy, but when he runs in at pace and does something, he is quicker than what most people think. Now it’s almost like being a debutant. I have never seen him play Test cricket. We have spoken about how he will change from ODIs to Test. Injuries were unfortunate.

Munaf is a revelation and hopefully I have influenced him but have learnt a lot from him. The way he embarks on a game, thinks about it. He is in control of his emotions. He is a mature guy. He says little things to me at times that make me go ‘wow’. In many ways he is one of the leaders of the attack. Munaf is the leader here. He may seem casual, but I don’t want to shake him. Hence, I am happy with exactly where Munaf is.

He has natural bounce. He can be effective by keeping a fuller length. He is going to be a handful if conditions suit him in England.

But whether we play him and Ishant together will depend on the conditions. Would you play two Glenn McGraths together? The captain has a nice basket of choices.

His return is exciting because I see a Munaf who loves playing cricket and works hard. He doesn’t see himself as a superstar. He doesn’t see himself as a World Cup winner claiming glory. He comes across as a guy who is very grateful with what he has got.

Zaheer khan

For Zaheer Khan, this break from cricket has been a blessing in disguise. It’s not only a physical one, but also a mental and emotional break. He had played a lot of cricket going into the IPL from the World Cup, and it must have been difficult for him. To see him play with so much passion as he did in the IPL was amazing. The rigours of Test cricket are tough on anybody. He is also somebody who understands his body really well. If he was a young bowler, just that one warm-up game in England could have been a concern, but he is a bowler who knows himself very well.

As a bowling coach, I might notice something different. A few suggestions that I have spoken to him are mainly about bowling around the stumps to right handers. It’s not really worked for him in terms of the angle he comes in with. He is a different bowler because of his wrist position. He can swing the ball just from his wrist. He is one of the guys I have come across who knows his action so well. His ability to bowl from a short run, and at the same pace, tells you he knows his action because not many guys can do it.

He also has the ability to fix things out there in the middle, instead of expecting to analyse it during the lunch or tea breaks. Zaheer has that ability. When he is preparing for a match he is very focussed on his job. He has his ‘process’, but in terms of tactics. During meetings, he has his say.

His ability is not just to claim an important wicket or two when the match is heading nowhere, but to also inspire the young. What he actually does in terms of breakthroughs is of course crucial. But to go to a young bowler and calm him down when he’s under pressure and to say, ‘I have been there before and this is maybe an idea and a thought’ is outstanding. Zaheer is crucial to lead a group of pacers. He’s got incredible ability technically and one learns from people like that. But it’s also who he is and the importance of it. It is also very encouraging to see the guys take up the mantle when he’s not been there. They have recognised the role that Zaheer plays and it’s good to see someone step up whenever he is not available.

From: ajithfederer on 12th July 2011 05:51 AM [Full View]

Ishant sharma

ISHANT Sharma will be a real handful in England if he bowls with the control he’s got now. His ability to get bounce off the pitch from a fuller length is crucial in a place like England. He’s got the ability to extract life out of a wicket that will otherwise be classified as really dead.

The control in Ishant’s bowling is back, as is the confidence. The no-balls are disappearing. He’s going to start finding the pace that he has. To try and bowl quicker when you haven’t got confidence, doesn’t work. So now I think he’ll start bowling consistently at 140, 141, 142 and that’s just going to add to his strength. In other words, if they prepare wickets that are going to suit their bowlers, then we can exploit that.

With time we have formed a bond, and he’s worked hard on it, it’s clicked and it’s made sense to him. He’s nicked a few out, and it’s starting to work. So we got him running from a wider angle without changing his action. He is now bowling down the line of his feet rather than across his body.

And his seam is still in such a great position. I think he’s learnt to be patient.

He’s just 22 and got such a great future ahead. Everyone just needs to be patient with him. Ishant is a bowler who needs to bowl a little short of length when he is in good rhythm and finding that right length will be the key. It’s more a case of building the foundations solid, so that the pace can improve. The consistency is just great at the moment.

Praveen kumar

Praveen Kumar will be a massive asset for us in English conditions. And, I don’t think the England’s players like that kind of pace. He gets the ball to swing both ways; just nibble away around the corridor, and they lose their off-stump. Six months ago, we wouldn’t have thought he would be going to England. That happened on the back of what he’s done already in Test cricket. PK could play a big role. One thing that stands out for me is PK’s patience. Like for example in Jamaica, being prepared to bowl just out-swing for a full over, or two. I think that sometimes what the batsman doesn’t want is the right tactic. You need to think like him.

In Test cricket, we stressed upon him the importance of patience. The importance of bowling to your field, how a batsman is thinking. And the key thing of Test cricket is that just possessing the variation is a variation in itself. PK has that.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/simons-says/815370/0

From: ajithfederer on 12th July 2011 06:33 AM [Full View]

LM, Can you change the title to Pataudi Trophy. I've tried changing it many times but it ain't working.

From: raghavendran on 12th July 2011 08:18 AM [Full View]

England is the 2nd best team after India.good that we have Dravid,Laxman in good form..this will be a great series...probably the best English side we are facing..fascinating contest ahead

From: ajithfederer on 12th July 2011 09:51 AM [Full View]

Thanks for the title change. lm. Happy birthday once again.

From: ajithfederer on 12th July 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

England tour: Five cricketers leave for London

The other members of the team barring Sachin Tendulkar and Sehwag will reach England directly from West Indies. (Wikimedia Commons)

Last Updated : 12 Jul 2011 07:43:56 AM IST

MUMBAI: Five Indian cricketers, who were not part of the national side in the just-concluded test series against the West Indies, left for London to participate in the upcoming tour of England in the early hours on Tuesday.

Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh, Zaheer Khan, S Sreesanth, who had all skipped the Caribbean tour due to injuries and health concerns, and Wriddhiman Saha, who was not picked, have been named in the 17-member Test squad for England.

The five cricketers boarded a British Airways flight from the Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport here.

The other members of the team, barring batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar, who is already in England, and Virender Sehwag, who is recuperating from a shoulder surgery, will directly travel to the country from the West Indies, where they defeated the home side in an ODI series and a Test rubber during the same tour for the first time.

India will play four Tests, one T-20 and five ODIs in England between July 21 and September 16, beginning with a practice game against Somerset (Taunton-- July 15-17).

The four Tests will be held at Lord's (July 21-25), Trent Bridge (July 29-Aug 2), Edgbaston (Aug 10-14) and Kennington Oval (Aug 18-22).

India had defeated England in a three-Test rubber when it had last toured the country in 2008.

Squad: Mahendra Singh Dhoni (Capt), Gautam Gambhir (vice Capt), Abhivan Mukund, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, V V S Laxman, Suresh Raina, Yuvraj Singh, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, S Sreesanth, Praveen Kumar, Ishant Sharma, Amit Mishra, Munaf Patel, Wriddhiman Saha, Virender Sehwag.

http://expressbuzz.com/cricket/engla...on/293382.html

From: littlemaster1982 on 12th July 2011 03:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Thanks for the title change. lm. Happy birthday once again.

Thank you

From: ajithfederer on 13th July 2011 06:17 AM [Full View]

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...am;view=series

Series averages Team Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L Ave RPO HS LS Start Date Winner
England 5 0 1 0 4 0.00 49.56 3.51 600 51 4 Feb 2009 West Indies
The Wisden Trophy (England in West Indies), 2008/09

England 2 2 0 0 0 - 61.12 3.69 569 377 6 May 2009 England
The Wisden Trophy (West Indies in England), 2009

England 5 2 1 0 2 2.00 34.15 3.77 435 102 8 Jul 2009 England
The Ashes (Australia in England), 2009

England 4 1 1 0 2 1.00 30.98 3.01 574 169 16 Dec 2009 drawn
Basil D'Oliveira Trophy (England in South Africa), 2009/10

England 2 2 0 0 0 - 63.04 3.73 599 496 12 Mar 2010 England
England in Bangladesh Test Series, 2009/10

England 2 2 0 0 0 - 49.40 3.85 505 419 27 May 2010 England
Bangladesh in England Test Series, 2010

England 4 3 1 0 0 3.00 31.43 3.26 446 222 29 Jul 2010 England
Pakistan in England Test Series, 2010

England 5 3 1 0 1 3.00 51.14 3.50 644 123 25 Nov 2010 England
The Ashes (England in Australia), 2010/11

England 3 1 0 0 2 - 56.46 3.86 496 486 26 May 2011 England
Sri Lanka in England Test Series, 2011

From: ajithfederer on 13th July 2011 06:21 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1oImbYsIpI

Cricinfo UK Editor Andrew miller predicts 2-1 to England.

From: raghavendran on 13th July 2011 08:07 AM [Full View]

as world NO 1 we should win the series...no matter what..
was just seeing the signature saurav program in star cricket..Ganguly was talking about the last english tour 2007...India played really well that series..especially after the debacle..that series win brought back interest in fans again..Ganguly himself batted superbly..
but this time English team and our team is much stronger than 2007 series..should be a good battle

From: Plum on 13th July 2011 03:07 PM [Full View]

Warning #1 for India - Stuart Broad, the greatest all-rounder in Cricket since...er...Andrew Flintoff, is back to form

From: Plum on 13th July 2011 03:09 PM [Full View]

Warning #2 - Strauss working on his left-arm seamer weakness.
The two weakest performers in recent series for England are improving so nowhere to run for India - a top 6 with 6 batsmen in form and with high skill, and a 4 member attack, with all 4 in form and with high skill, and a wicketkeeper possibly the best in the world. Has there ever been another team with 11 strong performers as this English team?

From: ajithfederer on 13th July 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

Even when playing against Australia, I used to be confident and never cared about end results but after becoming No1 Eng are the single best threat. It is very hard to predict a series result. As usual and always I want India to win but this time it will be really tough for our batsmen. For the very first time my hope on bowlers is somewhat higher than that of the batsmen because of the conditions involved.

From: ajithfederer on 13th July 2011 10:27 PM [Full View]

Strauss: To win against India, we need to step up a level
Andrew Strauss wants England to keep India legend Sachin Tendulkar waiting to register his 100th international century in the forthcoming npower Test series.

Tendulkar has notched up 51 Test tons and 48 one-day international hundreds in his remarkable career and could achieve the three-figure milestone in the series opener at Lord's next week.

But Strauss hopes to leave the 37-year-old stuck on the 99 mark as long as possible and insists India are not a one-man team.

He said: "The longer it goes on, that he is on 99, the better. We know what a quality player Sachin is. You only have to look at his record to see that.

"We are not focusing on him. He will get just as much or as little attention as any one of their other players because they have quality from one to 11.

"They are not a one-trick pony by any means. There are going to be some challenges there for our bowlers. They have a very good batting line-up."

But Strauss believes England are capable of rising to the challenge world number one side India will provide.

He said: "I'm excited about this series. It will be a great test of us as a side and one we're capable of passing.

"We're all going to be very motivated, me more than most, and hopefully that will equate to some good scores.

"I think the side is better equipped than in 2007 (when England lost to India).

"We've had a lot of success recently and we're a more competent unit. We're comfortable in our home conditions.

"We've been progressing every series we've been playing in over the last couple of years.

"We are going to be required to step up a level over the next four Test matches but we're more than capable of doing it.

"That motivation of playing against the best side in the world is just the challlenge we need at the moment - and one we're more than capable of overcoming."

India only finished their Test series in the West Indies on Sunday and play just one game - against Somerset - before the first Test.

Strauss wants England to take advantage of any lack of preparation India may find themselves having to overcome.

He said: "We know that most international teams have a short run-in for Test matches.

"That's just the way modern touring is. The most important thing is, if there are any weaknesses or vulnerabilities or rustiness, we exploit that in the first Test.

"We need to make sure our operation is as good as possible.

"That first Test match is always the marker to set the tone for the rest of the series and we'll have to play that one well."

Former England coach Duncan Fletcher will be in charge of India but Strauss believes he can have only a certain amount of impact on events in the middle.

He said: "Duncan knows a number of our players reasonably well but I've always felt that the planning aspect is (only) one part of it.

"People delivering out in the middle is the most important thing and your coaches aren't out there in the middle with you.

"I'm sure he'll be very motivated to win this series but it's not something we're focusing our attentions on."

::Strauss was speaking at a track day organised by Jaguar, official car supplier to the England cricket team.

From: Plum on 13th July 2011 10:56 PM [Full View]

Preparation is a key weakness for India. Tragic that we continue to lose or draw series which could have been won with more practice matches. This is one thing that BCCI should be roasted on. On this, ECB are smart and English players are also so focussed _e.g. Strauss playing in the practice match against India. This is why Dhoni has to practice the losers' lines for post match ceremonies from now itself

From: ajithfederer on 13th July 2011 11:39 PM [Full View]

A nasty coincidence between these bomb blasts in 2008 and now is that they happen just before when India plays England or in the middle of playing em.

From: SoftSword on 14th July 2011 12:40 AM [Full View]

will tell u another coincidence which u dont know...
its just a cracker celebration for our national leader mr. ajmal kasab's birthday today.

From: ajithfederer on 14th July 2011 01:47 AM [Full View]

Another bad news India lost a point since the test championship cycle ends on Aug 2011. Noticeably England didn't lose a point. So India are on 125 and England in 117.

From: ajithfederer on 14th July 2011 02:15 AM [Full View]

England 117 and India 125 now.

Ranking scenarios:

If England wins the series
4-0 - A literal swap with England at 125 and India at 117
3-1 - Eng 123 Ind 120
3-0 - Eng 124 Ind 119
2-1 - Eng and Ind 121 each.
2-0 - Eng 123 Ind 120
1-0 - Eng and Ind 121 each.

Draws:
0-0 - Eng 118 Ind 124
1-1 - Eng 118 Ind 124
2-2 - Eng 118 Ind 124

If India wins
4-0 - Eng 112 Ind 131
3-1 - Eng 114 Ind 128
3-0 - Eng 113 Ind 129
2-1 - Eng 116 Ind 127
2-0 - Eng 114 Ind 128
1-0 - Eng 116 Ind 127

http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_z..._predictor.php

From: SoftSword on 14th July 2011 04:22 AM [Full View]

kevinpp24:
Thoughts go out to all those injured & who lost loved ones in Mumbai today... Such a great city.. Sad to see..

From: SoftSword on 14th July 2011 04:33 AM [Full View]

'The best batsman I've bowled to'
There's Steve Waugh and Brian Lara. And then, a notch above, there's Sachin Tendulkar
Allan Donald
September 1, 2002

I had been watching Sachin Tendulkar on and off before we (South Africa) were readmitted in 1991. People were always talking about him so I was aware of what we were going to come up against, and I remember Craig McDermott telling us that he was going to be the best in the world.

Our first engagement was in 1991, in Calcutta, in front of 90,000 people. He made 62. And it was blatantly clear then that he was going to be a player to remember.

Before I played against him I was always looking forward to having a crack. Then I realised just what I was up against. When someone like Tendulkar walks to the crease, you have to know what you are going to do. You can't just run up and bowl. You have to have planned your attack, your line, a week in advance.

Everything about him is just so exceptional. He is wonderful technically and he has everything - class, speed, all the shots, and he is cool under pressure. Cricketers always talk about his amazing balance, even the Aussies. I've seen tapes of Sunil Gavaskar and if you split the screen between him and Tendulkar, they look virtually identical. I have never seen a man with such immaculate balance - it is freakish.

People go to a Test match just to watch Tendulkar. I, for one, would rather watch him than bowl against him. Actually, I'm glad I'll never have to bowl to him in a Test match again, though I've been quite successful against him. He is No. 1 in my book - the best player I have ever had the privilege of bowling to. There's Steve Waugh and there's Brian Lara, who was wonderful in 1995, but Tendulkar is a class above, consistently special.

Your margin for error against him really is marginal. If you get him on a flat track, when he is, say, 50 not out off 24 balls, then you know that you have a very long day ahead and the situation can be very, very demoralising. The best knock I can remember him playing was at Newlands in 1997, when he was just unstoppable. We only got him thanks to a blinding catch by Adam Bacher off a hook shot, otherwise he would have gone on and on.

Under Hansie Cronje we studied hard for a Tendulkar weakness. We thought he might be vulnerable, especially early in his innings, to the ball that is bowled from wide of the crease, coming back in off a good length. He might then be bowled through the gate, or be lbw, especially on English wickets. We also tried peppering him with short balls - not many top-class batters like that - but it didn't really seem to bother him. The one thing that might rattle him is being restricted. He loves scoring, and scoring quickly, and if he is frustrated, sometimes he goes out and looks for the big shot.

I don't think he really gets rattled by sledging. Glenn McGrath tried it and Tendulkar just kept running at him and hitting him back over his head for four. I think that, like Steve Waugh, sledging just makes him more focused: I don't think it is a good idea to have a word.

The ball I bowled to him in Durban in 1996 was the best ball I have bowled to any cricketer. I think he hit the first two balls after lunch for four, then I came from wide of the crease and the ball really went a long way to bowl him. I don't think I've ever celebrated like that - you save those for the big ones. We had discussed how to bowl to him, and I knew what I was trying to do, but I never expected it to go so far off the seam to knock out the off stump. It was a great sight. That series was billed as the Donald-Tendulkar battle, but he got his own back at Cape Town with one of the best knocks I've ever seen.

Tendulkar is already a legend so I'm not sure how he'll be remembered - what comes after legend? He is still young and if he plays till he is 35 who knows what he'll achieve. He's the best in the world, one of the most magnificent players there's ever been. He's also a nice guy, a soft-hearted bloke who gives 110% and just loves playing cricket.

As told to Tanya Aldred
This article was first published in the September 2002 issue of Wisden Asia Cricket

Feeds: Tanya Aldred
© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

From: ajithfederer on 14th July 2011 10:06 AM [Full View]

Warning! Tendulkar and the Indians are here... the summer is about to get really HOT

By Paul Newman

The summer is about to hot up with the visit of India, the best Test team in the world and the 50-over World Cup winners, to provide the toughest test yet of England's desire to be No 1.

Here, the World of Cricket looks at the key characters and clashes in prospect.

The wonder of Sachin

What a prospect is in store for the first Test at Lord's next week. Sachin Tendulkar is poised on 99 international centuries and has never made his way on to the famous honours board at Headquarters.

Now England have to try to stop arguably the best batsman of all time - yes Australia, even better than Bradman - from reaching 100 centuries in the 2,000th Test.

If England can keep Tendulkar waiting beyond Lord's then it might just have an adverse effect on India.

Captain fantastic

All eyes will be on Tendulkar when India begin their tour at Taunton on Friday but there is an even more significant figure in their team. Mahendra Singh Dhoni has become the first cricketer genuinely to be considered world class as a batsman, wicketkeeper and captain.

He led India to the first World Twenty20 title in his first captaincy assignment in 2007 to transform cricket, has never lost a Test series as captain and was man of the match for his unbeaten 91 in the World Cup final against Sri Lanka in Mumbai, finishing the match with a six.

What's more, he features in even more Indian TV commercials than Tendulkar, usually perched on one of his 12 motorbikes. Dhoni is truly a superstar.

Left on the shelf?

Dhoni's opposite number Andrew Strauss enters the series needing to reassert his captaincy after handing over to Stuart Broad and Alastair Cook for limited-overs cricket and desperately in need of a big score after his worst run of form for three years.

What's more, he will come face to face with Zaheer Khan, the left-arm seamer who dismissed him four times when India were last here for a Test series in 2007. That would not be such a big stat if it were not for the fact that Strauss has made a habit of getting out to left-armers this year, usually ones inferior to Zaheer.

This could be a last hurrah for Zaheer, now 32, who was rested for India's tour of the West Indies but he remains a warrior of a bowler who learned how to master the Duke ball during a prolific season with Worcestershire. Thanks for that, county cricket.

Zaheer will come face to face with Strauss when the England captain guests for Somerset against India, unless that wily old fox Duncan Fletcher, now India's coach, holds him back to confront Strauss at Lord's.

Opening gambit

Ok, we are talking India up here, and rightly so, but England have every reason to feel optimistic after their outstanding form in Test cricket. If we are looking for Indian weaknesses, how about the absence of Virender Sehwag through injury for possibly the first two Tests.

India may have to gamble on 21-year-old Abhinav Mukund as Gautam Gambhir's opening partner at Lord's. And will they pick Praveen Kumar as their third seamer behind Zaheer and Ishant Sharma, who has just reached 100 Test wickets at the age of 22?

England will fancy themselves against Kumar's little dibbly dobblies.

Spin kings

Not least among the appetising battles ahead is the clash of the best two spinners in the world.

Graeme Swann's extraordinary rise began in India in 2008 and now he is considered superior to the great Harbhajan Singh, even though the India off-spinner has just reached 400 Test wickets.

Harbhajan has an inferior record outside of India than on the turning wickets of home but it could be argued that he has been hindered by his country's refusal to accept the decision review system. Now both these key men will be affected by the absence of Hawk-Eye in the decision-making process at Lord's but don't bet against them playing leading roles throughout the four-Test series.

The pie man

It was Dhoni who first highlighted Kevin Pietersen's aversion to mediocre left-arm spin when he threw the ball to Yuvraj Singh in Chennai three years ago. The outcome? Pietersen lbw b Yuvraj 1 and the labelling of Yuvraj afterwards as 'a pie thrower' by KP.

It is a handle Yuvraj relishes and one that he threw back at Pietersen last week when he said: 'I am looking forward to throwing a few more pies his way.'

But will he get the chance? Yuvraj is a destructive one-day player - as Broad will painfully remember after he was struck for six sixes in an over during the first World Twenty20 in Durban - but he has not played a Test for more than a year. It is difficult to see how he can get in the side ahead of Suresh Raina.

Sweet taste of success

If England struggle, they might be advised to avoid a repeat of their prank during India's last tour here four years ago when Ian Bell sprinkled jelly beans by the feet of Zaheer when he batted at Trent Bridge.

It seemed an innocuous enough joke but Zaheer was furious and India went on to win the Test and the series.

It also inspired the memorable quote from then captain Michael Vaughan that 'we did not lose this match because of a jelly bean'. Lay off the sweets this time, boys...

Scouting report

Duncan Fletcher (India coach)

A familiar face will be in charge of India at their first training session before their tour opener against Somerset at Taunton; a man who knows all about the key batsmen in the England side and what makes them tick.

Who will be supplying India with all our secrets then?

None other than Duncan Fletcher, the wily old fox himself, who coached England to the 2005 Ashes before his highly successful spell in charge came to an unfortunate end with a thrashing by Australia and a woeful World Cup in 2007.

That's a worry. Isn't old Duncan one of the best batting coaches in the world? Won't he know the techniques of the likes of Strauss, Cook, Pietersen and Bell inside out?

He sure will. When Fletcher was an adviser to South Africa during England's last tour there, he told their bowlers to launch early bouncers at Pietersen before drawing him forward with pitched-up deliveries to expose his gap between bat and pad. It worked pretty well.

Oh dear. How come Duncan has turned up in India then?

Well, coaching is a cosmopolitan old business and it is not unusual now to find the leading exponents swapping one tracksuit for another. India lost Fletcher's protege Gary Kirsten after winning the World Cup and turned instead to his teacher.

It is perfect for Fletcher. He gets to earn big money towards the end of his career and is expected to stay in the background behind the superstar players, which will suit Duncan just fine. He never relished the spotlight.

How do you mean?

Well, Fletcher's outstanding achievements perhaps do not always get the credit they deserve because he had an uneasy relationship with the English press. Expect him to be a bit of an invisible man on this tour but there will be a rare spotting of Fletcher in public when he faces up to his old mates of the fourth estate at Taunton.

Will there be lots of catching up, warm handshakes with the press and chuckles over old verbal sparring during his time in England?

I wouldn't bet on it.

Newman's talking point

This has been an unsatisfactory, low-key, weather-affected summer so far but it is about to spring to life with the visit of India. It should be a classic Test series between two formidable batting line-ups.

I know I have banged this drum before but would England's chances not be improved against India's world-class batsmen with a five-man, balanced attack?

Instead they seem sure to go with four bowlers and Matt Prior, who has proved himself as a world-class batsman, at seven. I hope it doesn't cost them dear.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...#ixzz1S2oXnfuS

From: ajithfederer on 14th July 2011 10:15 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGUyrP_7tw

Sreesantha indha madhiri poduda inglaandla.

From: ajithfederer on 15th July 2011 03:43 AM [Full View]

Strauss inspired by Tendulkar's longevity
PTI | Jul 14, 2011, 09.39pm IST

TAUNTON: It is not just about Sachin Tendulkar's technical proficiency but also his mental strength that helps him in rewriting records even at the age of 38, feels England skipper Andrew Strauss.

"It's the overall package he brings. He is technically fantastic but it's also his mental strength; the way he withstands pressure, how humble and dignified he is," Strauss said on Thursday on the eve of India's warm-up game against Somerset.

"It is not just his runs but his desire and motivation to keep chasing down the records. He is an example that if you are still hungry, your power shouldn't decline as you get older," said Strauss.

"Among the examples out there, he is the best of them." Tendulkar will be chasing a record 100th international centuries when India and England kick off the first of the four-match Test series, at Lord's on July 21.

Strauss acknowledged the Indian team's consistency but backed his team to beat the world number one in front of the home crowd.

"They are playing hell lot of good cricket. They are tough nuts to crack, generally such men bring the best out of our players.

"In the last two years, we have found ourselves in good position and go on and win the Test. The level of test is going to rise over the next five weeks. It excites us for once you overcome the best, you become the best.

"It's a strong unit, ably led by Mahendra Singh Dhoni, but we back ourselves to beat anyone in home conditions and India is no exception to it," Strauss said.

Should England win the series 2-0 or 3-1, they would replace the visitors from the top of Test rankings.

"It's important we look to win the series -- it's always dangerous to look too far ahead. You do so by playing good cricket consistently. It might take six months or 12 years to reach the goal," he said.

According to Strauss, the important thing is how his team is known in the world.

"More than ratings, how you are acknowledged around the world, that's a far longer goal. You could become number one, but how you sustain it is important."

While sub-continental teams have struggled against short-pitched stuffs in the past, Strauss does not want to make the mistake of assuming that the Indians would be susceptible to the rising deliveries.

"All sub-continent teams have got better at it. They have been touring here quite often. I don't foresee any dramatic weakness there.

"We know Chris Tremlett did very well last time. He was younger and less developed. As we saw against both Australia and Sri Lanka, (the short-pitched bowling) if done consistently and accurately, will trouble most," he said.

Strauss also clarified that he looked to play against the Indians not because he wanted to sort out his problems against Zaheer Khan.

"It would have been the first Test match for me to play without having played any match for three weeks. The other option was to play two games for Middlesex. I am happy that I'm getting an opportunity to score some runs against their bowlers."

Zaheer, incidentally, has dismissed Strauss on five occasions.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9226935.cms

From: ajithfederer on 15th July 2011 04:04 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...900/134998.jpg

Members of the Indian cricket team play football during a practice session, Taunton, July 14 2011

From: Plum on 15th July 2011 05:03 AM [Full View]

Oh so Strauss doesn't play for somerset but is playing for them in this match just for practice? How can that be allowed?

Would we play Dravid for Mumbai in a practice match just because he is trying to get a hit. If we do, english press will go kuiyo muraiyo on cheating. Is this per cricket's laws? Someone shd check

From: 19thmay on 15th July 2011 05:28 PM [Full View]

Somerset - 101/1 [ 27.3 Overs]

Staruss - 78(98) out
Suppiah - 17*(71)
Compton - 1*(1)

Mishra - 1/28

From: scorpio on 15th July 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

India puNNIyathula out-of-form-la irundha Strauss-um ippo form-kku vandhaachu

From: sathya_1979 on 15th July 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

naama MGR maadhiri, summaa adi vaangara maadhiri baavlA kaattitu mukkiyamaana nErathula correctaa adichiduvOm!

From: Sourav on 15th July 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-...e/20110715.htm
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/523283.html
No sehwag for first 2 tests.

From: mgb on 15th July 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

Raina and Yuvi both are playing in the warm up match.. could be a knock out for the Test XI

From: Plum on 15th July 2011 08:26 PM [Full View]

Why is Strauss playing for Somerset?
Can Dravid play for Mumbai just for a practice match?
Why is this being allowed?
Isnt he a middlesex guy? (I mean not Middle Sex - as Visaal, Agarkar etc are parodied - but the county middlesex)

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 12:08 AM [Full View]

Suppiah

Nee Thamizhan da..

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 12:51 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...000/135013.jpg

Sreesanth

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From: Plum on 16th July 2011 07:05 AM [Full View]

Ok, guys, all of you remember. If, in future, we play a non-domicile guy for a state that is playing England on India tour, English media, Players etc will make noised about spirit of cricket, unethical bcci etc. Appo remember that Strauss did the same in 2011. He might poke at Kohli in 2014 as a media man himself for playing for Mumbai for one match to find personal form before the England series in India. He'll conveniently forget he did the same in 2011.
I want someone other than me here to remember this. As I get older, my memory cannot be trusted

From: MADDY on 16th July 2011 07:13 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Ok, guys, all of you remember. If, in future, we play a non-domicile guy for a state that is playing England on India tour, English media, Players etc will make noised about spirit of cricket, unethical bcci etc. Appo remember that Strauss did the same in 2011. He might poke at Kohli in 2014 as a media man himself for playing for Mumbai for one match to find personal form before the England series in India. He'll conveniently forget he did the same in 2011.
I want someone other than me here to remember this. As I get older, my memory cannot be trusted

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...io/523313.html

cant listen to this piece since entire house is still sleeping............edho solraaru, somerset owneru on this issue, ennaanu kelunga......segappa irukkravan poi solla maattan, hmmm

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 09:07 AM [Full View]

It's old but gold. Roddick: “I have a problem calling anything where you wear formal pants a sport. I have a problem that you have a break for tea and with anything that you play for five days and can still end in a tie,”

Yeah, explain baseball to us. The challenge of swinging full tosses & the herculean tasks of slogging 'em to stands.

Or, have the gall to call a sport 'football' while using padding to play ball, not use your feet and only ever last for seconds with more whistles than late night gurkha shift.

(I know both has its own merits, but just miming Roddick. Though seriously, I have trouble accepting he plays 'tennis' at times :P )

From: jinju on 16th July 2011 09:52 AM [Full View]

:-d

Originally Posted by kid-glove

it's old but gold. Roddick: “i have a problem calling anything where you wear formal pants a sport. I have a problem that you have a break for tea and with anything that you play for five days and can still end in a tie,”

yeah, explain baseball to us.

:-d:-d:-d

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 10:03 AM [Full View]

Actually these guys here brag that this is the toughest thing to do in all of sports. Hitting a round object with a round bat,

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Yeah, explain baseball to us. The challenge of swinging full tosses & the herculean tasks of slogging 'em to stands.

I've asked this too. Many of em didn't have an answer.

.

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Or, have the gall to call a sport 'football' while using padding to play ball, not use your feet and only ever last for seconds with more whistles than late night gurkha shift.

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Yes. We should promote this game in India. I'm sure we won't fare badly! We might challenge Japan/S.Korea/Cuba for Olympics & WBC..

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

Mukund, say bye-bye to your opening slot. Sachin to the crease now. #IndiavsSomerset #NoStream #CricInfo

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

which channel or live link are you watching this from??

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

#NoStream #CricInfo

Bloody Sky Sports Network showing under-19's cricket, Wrestling, Rugby & Fishing championship.

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

Yeah

. I was wondering the same. It's shown no where.

From: SoftSword on 16th July 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

for the past one hour i am searchin for live links and nothing is available online... hmmm...
thalaivar in the crease....

rusikaattiputtu elapoattuputtu thannithelichuputtu....
kaakka vekkiriyae yaenmaa......

From: sathya_1979 on 16th July 2011 10:22 PM [Full View]

76-4, superappu!

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 10:28 PM [Full View]

The signs are good. We always start a series BAD.

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 10:29 PM [Full View]

There is a fantastic article in Cricinfo about Laxman and why he is the top test player for the last 3+ years for India. Somebody please post that.

From: SoftSword on 16th July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

Laxman's golden run
In the last four years he has been a model of consistency. The only slight problem is his stats in the first Test of a series
S Rajesh
July 15, 2011

To say that VVS Laxman is in the form of his life isn't an exaggeration. It's true that his defining innings was played more than a decade ago, but it's also true that in the last four years he has played an abnormally high number of match-saving and match-winning knocks, and consistently held together India's middle and lower order. The grace and style he was born with, but to that he has added consistency and an ability to rise to the occasion, which are far from ordinary. His stats in the last four years, and improvement over the previous years, clearly testify to that.

In the last four years, starting with the tour to England in 2007, Laxman averages 57.33 in 43 Tests, which makes this one of his best extended periods of form in Test cricket - a comparable period was between 2000 and 2003, when he averaged 57.73 in 33 matches, but that was followed by a dip in the next three and a half years, when 31 more Tests fetched only four hundreds, and an average of less than 40. Now, it seems, Laxman is back at his best.

Even here, though, numbers don't tell the complete story. In the last two series that India have played - in South Africa and West Indies - Laxman averaged less than 50, and yet he played key roles in both. In the memorable win in Durban, Laxman's 38 and 96 were the highest scores in each of India's two innings in a match where no other batsman topped 40. In Barbados his 85 and 87 were the two highest scores in the match, and would have almost certainly won India the Test had the weather not intervened. On both occasions the pitches were difficult to bat on, and hardly any other batsmen conquered the conditions; yet Laxman scored runs in all four innings of those matches. In the 13 series that Laxman has played over these last four years (excluding the ones in which he played only one Test), his average dipped below 35 only twice, and below 30 only once. On the other hand, nine times he averaged more than 45.

VVS Laxman's Test career
Period Tests Runs Average Strike rate 100s/ 50s
Before 2000 16 626 24.07 40.54 0/ 5
Jan 2000 to Dec 2003 33 2656 57.73 51.86 6/ 13
Jan 2004 to Jun 2007 31 1596 37.11 47.20 4/ 9
July 2007 onwards 43 3268 57.33 50.48 6/ 25
Career 123 8146 47.36 49.31 16/ 52

All these runs have made Laxman one of the best batsmen in the world over the last four years. He is one of only nine players to score more than 3000 runs at a 50-plus average during this period. It's also a measure of India's batting strength that they make up three of the top six.

The only aspect where Laxman falls short when compared to others in the list below is in converting fifties into hundreds. Kumar Sangakkara has converted 13 out of 25 fifties, Jacques Kallis 16 out of 26, and Mahela Jayawardene 11 out of 20, but Laxman has only managed six out of 31 scores of 50-plus. Some of that is also because he mostly bats at Nos. 5 or 6, but even at No. 4 he has four fifties and no centuries.

Batsmen with more than 3000 runs at 50+ average since July 1, 2007
Batsman Tests Runs Average Strike rate 100s/ 50s
Kumar Sangakkara 32 3358 68.53 56.99 13/ 12
Jacques Kallis 38 3517 63.94 52.48 16/ 10
Mahela Jayawardene 33 3214 61.80 52.66 11/ 9
Sachin Tendulkar 40 3770 61.80 54.83 14/ 16
Virender Sehwag 35 3539 58.98 90.55 10/ 15
VVS Laxman 43 3268 57.33 50.48 6/ 25
Hashim Amla 38 3281 55.61 51.88 11/ 15
Graeme Smith 37 3172 53.76 59.88 11/ 11
Alastair Cook 50 4085 50.43 50.23 12/ 21

A feature of Laxman's batting since almost the beginning of his career has been his tendency to score more runs in the second innings than the first. In his entire career he averages 51.51 in the third and fourth innings of Tests, and is one of only 18 batsmen to score more than 3000 runs in the second innings. In terms of averages he is fifth among those 18 batsmen, and the best for India, marginally ahead of Sunil Gavaskar's 51.46.

However, in the last four years Laxman has taken second-innings batting to another level, with 13 scores of 50-plus in 31 innings, and a stupendous average of 77.83. It's true that the average has been boosted by 13 not-outs, but some of those were very well deserved, as when he made 103 and73 to guide India to victory against Sri Lanka and Australia. In fact, in the last two and a half years the numbers look even better - 867 runs in 14 innings with seven not-outs, at an average of 123.85, with 10 scores of 50-plus.

Highest 2nd-innings averages in Tests since July 2007 (Qual: 1000 runs)
Batsman Innings Runs Average Strike rate 100s/ 50s
VVS Laxman 31 1401 77.83 49.57 2/ 11
Kumar Sangakkara 23 1283 64.15 54.80 6/ 3
Jacques Kallis 26 1213 63.84 49.42 5/ 4
Gautam Gambhir 22 1201 63.21 49.38 5/ 5
Hashim Amla 27 1386 63.00 49.11 5/ 7
Graeme Smith 26 1397 58.20 59.42 5/ 5

Compare that second-innings average of 77.83 with his first-innings figure of 47.87 during these last four years, and it's clear that Laxman is a relatively slow starter in a Test match. The stats also show that he's a slow starter in a series - his first-Test stats are much poorer than his overall numbers, which means England will fancy their chances of getting him early at Lord's. His overall average in first Tests of series is less than 37, while in the last four years it has only gone up marginally to 40.40. In his four most recent innings in opening Tests, he has scored a total of 27 runs - 7 and 8 in Centurion, and 12 and 0 in Jamaica. On both occasions he hit back strongly in the second Test, in Durban and Barbados.

The only instance of Laxman scoring a first-Test century was against Zimbabwe in Bulawayo in 2005, when he scored 140.

Laxman in each Test of a series
Career - Tests Average 100s/ 50s Since Jul 2007 - Tests Average 100s/ 50s
1st Test 43 36.81 1/ 15 15 40.40 0/ 7
2nd Test 40 53.62 7/ 17 14 68.16 4/ 7
3rd Test 29 54.22 6/ 14 12 78.53 2/ 9

The table below compares the first-Test averages of all of India's top-order batsmen in these last four years. Sachin Tendulkar leads the way, while Virender Sehwag's stats indicate he will be missed at Lord's, especially since Rahul Dravid and Gautam Gambhir haven't shown a tendency of starting series strongly either.

First-Test stats for Indian batsmen in the last four years
Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Overall ave*
Sachin Tendulkar 15 1347 58.56 6/ 4 61.80
Virender Sehwag 12 1266 57.54 4/ 5 58.98
VVS Laxman 15 889 40.40 0/ 7 57.33
Rahul Dravid 15 1085 38.75 4/ 3 40.94
Gautam Gambhir 11 719 34.23 2/ 3 57.95*
Overall average in these four years, from July 2007 onwards

Finally, a break-up of Laxman's numbers against pace and spin over the last nine and a half years. He has always been known to be a strong player of spin, and while that is indicated in his average, it's slightly surprising to see that his scoring rate against spinners is less than three runs per over. As you'd expect, though, his averages against both pace and spin have gone up over the last four years. Against an England attack that has match-winners in both categories, Laxman will need to summon up his best. If he needed any further incentive, here's one: England is the only top team against whom Laxman hasn't scored a hundred, and the only ones against whom he averages less than 35.

Laxman v pace and spin in Tests since Jan 2002
Jan 2002-Jun 2007 - dismissals Average Run-rate July 2007 onwards - dismissals Average Run-rate
Pace 44 46.79 2.82 32 54.03 3.20
Spin 21 51.09 2.73 22 65.13 2.83

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

We're wobbling against 36 year old Willoughby, then what hope do we have against Anderson, Tremlett, Broad & Bresnon. Not to mention the best spinner in the world~! #TweetlikePlum

From: 19thmay on 16th July 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

The signs are good. We always start a series BAD.

+ About to post this... udhadu pakkathula vazhiyira rathatha thodachukittu adi pinna poraanga.... come on tiger come on tiger....

From: kid-glove on 16th July 2011 10:46 PM [Full View]

Sachin gone. Maiden first class wicket for Craig Meschede!

From: SoftSword on 16th July 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

adhe adhae...
parakkavittu sudanum....

From: 19thmay on 16th July 2011 10:52 PM [Full View]

England will sure underestimate us... Fletcher + Dhoni's master plan...

Goyyala ivainga ippadi kappi thanama vilayaaduradhukku eppdilaam yosikka vendiirukku?

From: ajithfederer on 16th July 2011 11:53 PM [Full View]

http://cricketcommentary.co.uk/somerset/

Ball-by-Ball Commentary

Live Somerset county championship cricket from Taunton

From: ajithfederer on 17th July 2011 12:26 AM [Full View]

Indians 138/8 (39.0 ov)

From: sathya_1979 on 17th July 2011 09:10 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Sachin gone. Maiden first class wicket for Craig Meschede!

Sachin is known for gifting wickets to debutants! idhula kooda record seivaar pOla

From: raghavendran on 17th July 2011 10:03 AM [Full View]

nalla sagunam..usuala India first testla collapse avanga but ippo warm up matchnala thappichom..

From: wizzy on 17th July 2011 12:56 PM [Full View]

Mukund has played himself out of the first test..Dravid might open to include waterboy in 11 for his pies

From: Plum on 17th July 2011 03:05 PM [Full View]

Adhellaam illai - apdillAm escape Aga mudiyAdhu. Mukund will open. Mukund will fail in tests. Mukund will go out of India reckoning.

From: kid-glove on 17th July 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

Raina turning it on. 14 runs in that over. 66 not out. His SR is at 82. India 175/9

What are the odds he will flop in the series?

From: kid-glove on 17th July 2011 04:37 PM [Full View]

Raining sixes for Raina..

From: kid-glove on 17th July 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

Century for Raina. Now don't flop in main series..

From: Plum on 17th July 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

nInga evLO reverse jinx paNNinAlum Raina will fail in the test series. Most of indian players will flop in this series. Except maybe Harby.
In 1978, one Pakistan series spelt the end of the famed spin quartet. This series could be that series for the famed batting glaxos..er..galacticos

From: sathya_1979 on 17th July 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

pOra varravanellaam six four adikkaraan

namma bowling avLo mOsamA?

From: satissh_r on 17th July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Out of the 4 bowlers on show now I expect no one to play in the 1st test, not sure why Zaheer hasn't bowled in the 2nd innings. Facing Zak, Ishant and PK would be a different thing altogether.

From: kid-glove on 17th July 2011 08:30 PM [Full View]

Strauss getting free practice vs Zak & other bowlers before the tour. Is this fair?

From: satissh_r on 17th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

Not fair at all but they'll say it was a warm up game after all. I'm OK with it now as it against our 2nd set of bowlers.

From: Plum on 17th July 2011 10:28 PM [Full View]

As Maddy reminded, veLLakAran poi solla mAttAn. The fair are always fair

From: raghavendran on 18th July 2011 07:54 AM [Full View]

people in the media call it a brave move by Strauss to expose himself before the series...onnum puriyala

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 08:35 AM [Full View]

Irish man can play for England. Middle Sex man can play for Somerset. Idhellaam nyaayam dhaan.
Adhe samayam piRkAlathula india-la yArAvadhu ipdi try paNNinA adhu mahA pAdhagam apdinnu polambi india-la irukkaRa "real cricket fans"-E BCCi-ai thitta veppAnga pArunga - adhaan England

From: ajithfederer on 18th July 2011 08:59 AM [Full View]

Guys

County avangaladhu (ecb and wales board), players um avanga aaluga we cannot complain much. Nasookku nadharithanam by england. Actually I am not very sure whether it is naadhari thanam in the first place. SRT played for Mumbai (adhu avar ranji team dhan adhu vera vishayam) against Aus in 1998 and scored his first 200. So idhu sappa matter a treat pannanum as we are No 1 we cant be grudging on petty matters.

From: ajithfederer on 18th July 2011 09:06 AM [Full View]

Enakku indha tour konjam gathi kalangidhu. These ainglees media are hyping up to the level of the biggest summer since ashes 05(discounting even their ashes 09 win) and their players are hell bent on taking the no1 status from our team. Shewag vera illa.

:karumandhira IPL: and hope its not too late before he comes. Next year thalaivare velayandaalum paaka vendamnu mudivu pannanum pola

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 09:19 AM [Full View]

I hope the 100th ton doesn't come at Lord's. Home of Cricket, serendipity adhu idhunnu English media hype thaangaadhu

From: littlemaster1982 on 18th July 2011 09:49 AM [Full View]

I'm with AF here. Let the Englishmen try all the tricks. Will make our wins much sweeter

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 11:02 AM [Full View]

Lm, I am not saying anything different(except our win part - I say the hype and arrogance will make our loss even more bitter

)

But the point is tomorrow when india does the same, we'll bepainted as killers of cricket and a sizeable number of indians will fall for that propoganda. They are quite succesful in hiding their ugliness and at the same time managing to show up others for the same crime

From: scorpio on 18th July 2011 12:51 PM [Full View]

England Squad for First test : Andrew Strauss(Capt), Alastair Cook, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Eoin Morgan, Matt Prior(Wk), Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Chris Tremlett, James Anderson.

Squad-a paathaalE terror-aa irukkE

Walking wicket Strauss-um form-kku vandhutaan. Sema strong batting line up

From: raajarasigan on 18th July 2011 01:11 PM [Full View]

அப்படி தாங்க இருக்கணும்.. இல்லாட்டி depleted டீம்'எ ஜெய்ச்சிதா சொல்லிடுவாங்க.. செஹ்வாக் இல்லேன்றது தான் கொஞ்சம் கஷ்டமா இருக்கு.. எச்செப்ட் பஜ்ஜி, வேற யாருக்கும் அடிபடமா இருக்கணும்..

From: scorpio on 18th July 2011 01:23 PM [Full View]

RR- Bhajji has to play the Tests at least. vEre specialist off spinner team-la illa. Amit Mishra-va practice match-la suzhatti suzhatti adichaanga.

( oru vELai neenga Plum maadiri Bhajji-ku injury aanaa Ashwin-kku call varum-nnu plan paNreengalaa?

)

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 03:56 PM [Full View]

Bhajji slaps notice on Mallya - headline.
Edhukku?

From: raajarasigan on 18th July 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

ஆமாங்க.. அஷ்வின்'க்கு வாய்ப்பு கெடைக்கும்.. மிஸ்ரா'உம் நல்ல போடுவாப்ல.. ஒரு மேட்ச் வச்சி சொல்ல முடியாது.,., அப்படி பார்த்த பாட்டிங் கூட சொதப்பல் தான்.. என்னை கேட்டா இதெல்லாம் ரெம்ப நல்ல சகுனம் நாம ஜெயக்கரதுக்கு..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 18th July 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

Andrew Strauss says " I am quite confident about beating India and winning the Series, My form was a concern, but that had just made me more determined" !

This was said on an interview to SKY news!

From: raghavendran on 18th July 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

these days in england we see flat pitches..but with India they will try providing seeming tracks..i guess thats the best chance of us winning with sreesanth and zaheer back

From: kid-glove on 18th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

Athers on Dhoni

From: kid-glove on 18th July 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

"The defining cricketing image of the year has to be the moment Mahendra Singh Dhoni stepped out of his crease and finished the World Cup with the crispest, cleanest straight drive imaginable. It was the stroke of a man utterly confident in his judgment, as he had been, or at least given the appearance of being, throughout a tournament in which his team and his leadership had been scrutinised by the expectations of a billion people,"..."There was an element of risk-taking in the beginning (he had been short of runs during the tournament), a sense of style in the denouement, but most of all a ruthlessness to finish the job,"

From: Sourav on 18th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

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From: ajithfederer on 18th July 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9268878.cms

Is this true?. What's going on here?

From: kid-glove on 18th July 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

Dhoni, what a legend!

Feddy, they made a spoof ad of Bhajji's commercial for Royal stag..

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 07:56 PM [Full View]

Yeah, that's the one I was referring to. Looks like Harby and Dhoni endorse competing whiskey brands. And Dhoni's brand released an ad making fun of an ad for the competing brand by Harby.
Apparently it involved a scene where the harby lookalike gets slapped by his father for stupidity

Harby is hurt by this

From: kid-glove on 18th July 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

The ad-makers weren't aware that Harby is pretty sensitive about his father. Lost him at a young age & had to take care of his 5 unmarried sisters. (Plum, don't laugh! :P ) He also faced some issues with Sikh community for acting without turban..

From: Plum on 18th July 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Oh I know that git. It's the one thing that redeems him. No excuse for calling someone with a specific history a monkey, though.

From: ajithfederer on 18th July 2011 10:17 PM [Full View]

Gambhir
Mukund
Dravid
Tendulka
Laxman
Raina
Dhoni
Bhajji
Zaheer
Ishanth
Sreesanth

Will be our playing XI.

Originally Posted by scorpio

England Squad for First test : Andrew Strauss(Capt), Alastair Cook, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Eoin Morgan, Matt Prior(Wk), Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Chris Tremlett, James Anderson.

Squad-a paathaalE terror-aa irukkE

Walking wicket Strauss-um form-kku vandhutaan. Sema strong batting line up

From: ajithfederer on 18th July 2011 10:22 PM [Full View]

Head to head

Gambhir and Strauss - Gambhir
Cook and Mukund - Hands down cook
Dravid and Trott - Going by recent form Trott and experience it's Dravid
Tendulkar
Laxman and Bell - Bell has been in great touch while Laxman's record is ordinary in England
Dhoni over Prior.
Raina and Morgan are quite equal though Raina has more experience playing in Intl's.
Swann>Bhajji
Anderson and Zaheer are nck to neck.
Ishanth and Tremlett - Tremlett again but Ishanth in good form.
Sreesanth over Broad.

Evenly contested matchup.

From: raghavendran on 19th July 2011 07:59 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Dhoni, what a legend!

Feddy, they made a spoof ad of Bhajji's commercial for Royal stag..

From: raghavendran on 19th July 2011 08:01 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Head to head

Gambhir and Strauss - Gambhir
Cook and Mukund - Hands down cook
Dravid and Trott - Going by recent form Trott and experience it's Dravid
Tendulkar
Laxman and Bell - Bell has been in great touch while Laxman's record is ordinary in England
Dhoni over Prior.
Raina and Morgan are quite equal though Raina has more experience playing in Intl's.
Swann>Bhajji
Anderson and Zaheer are nck to neck.
Ishanth and Tremlett - Tremlett again but Ishanth in good form.
Sreesanth over Broad.

Evenly contested matchup.

peitersena vituteengale...and i disagree on raina morgan..Morgan will get more runs in this series than raina i think

From: 19thmay on 19th July 2011 09:49 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Head to head

Gambhir and Strauss - Gambhir
Cook and Mukund - Hands down cook
Dravid and Trott - Going by recent form Trott and experience it's Dravid
Tendulkar
Laxman and Bell - Bell has been in great touch while Laxman's record is ordinary in England
Dhoni over Prior.
Raina and Morgan are quite equal though Raina has more experience playing in Intl's.
Swann>Bhajji
Anderson and Zaheer are nck to neck.
Ishanth and Tremlett - Tremlett again but Ishanth in good form.
Sreesanth over Broad.
Evenly contested matchup.

I am ok with the above comparison except Swann > Bhajji. I agree Swann is a better bowler against other countries. India-laye avaru paruppu vegalaye... Bhajji cant be underrated either, lets see!

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 09:51 AM [Full View]

Spot wise comparison la Tendulkar > Pietersen. I just didn't mention his name there.

Originally Posted by raghavendran

peitersena vituteengale...and i disagree on raina morgan..Morgan will get more runs in this series than raina i think

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

A recap of the England 2007 series.

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FIRST TEST (Lord's) - After racking up a first innings lead of 97, England raced along at rattling pace thanks to a hundred by Kevin Pietersen. With a target of 380 and with more than 100 overs to tackle, chances of an Indian survival were looking grim. File Photo: AP

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Rains, who played their part in a nail-biting finish, were a fixture of the first Test. When the rains cleared, it was left to the long-haired M.S. Dhoni, the middle-order collapsed, to bat out the last session with the tail and he did that quite superbly to salvage a draw. File Photo: AP

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:14 AM [Full View]

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SECOND TEST (Nottingham)- After bundling out the hosts for a paltry 198, the Indian openers - Dinesh Karthik (right) and Wasim Jaffer - constructed a 147-run partnership to take the game away from England. The visitors utilised the platform to pile on a mammoth 481 in their first innings - a lead of 283 runs. File Photo: PTI

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:17 AM [Full View]

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With his back to the wall, England skipper Michael Vaughan was in sparkling form as he dismantled the Indian bowling. But Vaughan was running out of partners and soon the innings folded at 355. India chased down the target of 73 with seven wickets remaining to take a 1-0 lead in the series. File Photo: AP

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:18 AM [Full View]

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THIRD TEST (Oval): With a series win looking likely, all India had to do was bat England out of the third Test. And they did that in a unique manner. While all the batsmen clicked, Anil Kumble notched up his first ever Test hundred to help India score in excess of 660 runs in their first innings. File Photo: AP

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:19 AM [Full View]

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For England, mercurial bowler James Anderson picked up four wickets to salvage something from the first innings. File Photo: AP

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

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Zaheer Khan, the visitors' premier strike bowler, who earlier in the series had gotten into a verbal tussle over the presence of jelly beans on the pitch, picked up three wickets for 32 in 22 overs as England were bowled out for 345. File Photo: AP

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

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India did not enforce the follow on and the Test meandered to a draw. India had won the series 1-0 but there were some close shaves for the visitors nonetheless. File Photo: AFP

From: Plum on 19th July 2011 10:29 AM [Full View]

Cook vs Gambhir - Dead Heat on Career Stats and talent shown; Cook ahead on Current Form, and experience in English pitches and conditions. In numeric terms, 7-3 for Cook

Strauss vs Mukund - Strauss ahead by a 1000 miles on all parameters. 10-0 for Strauss

Trott vs Dravid - on career stats and talent, Dravid ahead but Trott on current form; 7-3 Trott, mainly because of Rahul not having done anything against quality bowling in 5 years

Tendul vs Kevin - Tendul ahead on most parameters including recent form; But Kevin's on an upward curve on form, and Ten's on a downward curve; 6-4 to Tendul; Could be in Kev's favour after Lord's test

Bell vs Laxman - Again, generally equal but Laxman's poor English record tilts it; 6-4 Bell

Morgan vs Raina - Raina ticks all boxes but its English conditions and Indian bowling's the weaker one, especially to late order batsmen. SO, Morgan 7-3

Dhoni vs Prior - well, on most counts, Dhoni will be way ahead - on perception. In reality, Prior is as safe a keeper as Dhoni, and as reliable a batsman in tests, if not more. Infact, his test record is much better than Dhoni. 7-3 to Prior

Bhajji vs Swann - Swann seems to be ahead but with all the recent controversies, Bhajji is a dangerous customer like a cornered tiger. Cue, a test century in England and perhaps a decent bowling performance by the Wily sardar. 5-5.

Andersen vs Zaheer - again, a dead heat. But Andersen on recent form, fitness and stage of career that he is in. 6-4 to Jimmy

Tremlett vs Ishant - Tremlett way ahead. 7-3

Bresnan/Broad/Finn vs Munaf/Praveen/Santh/Mishra - no questions asked, the English lion ahead of Indian tiger. Both on batting and bowling. This one will hurt India with the bat, ball and in the field. 8-2

Overall for England

7-3+10-0+7-3+4-6+6-4+7-3+7-3+5-5+6-4+7-3+8-2
=74-36 in favour of England
In addition
Captaincy - 6-4 in favour of Dhoni
Coach - 6-4 in favour of Flower, 7-3, if you consider Fletch is yet to settle in his role.
Support Staff - 8-2 in favour of England
Board Support - 9-1 for England
Total:27-13
Ovearll:101-49 in favour of England

From: littlemaster1982 on 19th July 2011 10:46 AM [Full View]

Good work AF

Plum

From: 19thmay on 19th July 2011 10:50 AM [Full View]

Shall we have a game for this LM, not much rules, plain and simple?

From: littlemaster1982 on 19th July 2011 11:04 AM [Full View]

Enna maadhiri game-nu sollunga

I might not be 100% involved though, due to workload

From: ajithfederer on 19th July 2011 11:12 AM [Full View]

Taken from the indhu.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Good work AF

From: raajarasigan on 19th July 2011 11:37 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Taken from the indhu.

Aan.......

From: sathya_1979 on 19th July 2011 11:38 AM [Full View]

rules sollunga, data sheet naan seiyyarEn, yaarachum inputs entry and data tracking mattum senjaa pOdhum.

From: raajarasigan on 19th July 2011 11:52 AM [Full View]

நானும் நானும் :d

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 19th July 2011 03:11 PM [Full View]

Rain expected for Thursday, play may not be possible or highly disrupted!

From: ajaybaskar on 19th July 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

Match on 21st, right?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 19th July 2011 04:54 PM [Full View]

Yes Ajay !

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 03:37 AM [Full View]

No. 2000 and many more to come
K. C. Vijaya Kumar

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LEVIATHANS: Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Jacques Kallis and Ricky Ponting are in the twilight of their careers, but the men who will step into their enormous shoes are yet to be found.
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The India-England contest is a reflection of the changing hierarchy

When M.S. Dhoni and Andrew Strauss walk out for the toss at Lord's on July 21, history will rest on their shoulders. The two men will be focussed on winning the first Test but they will not be impervious to the barrage of numbers that will appear in the newspapers and on television.

Test match No. 2000, with its hint of longevity, has a nice ring to it despite the current age favouring brevity as evident in Twitter with its tell-all flavour wedged into 140 characters and an unusual Bollywood flick like ‘Delhi Belly' that does not have an interval.

It is also fitting that the Test pits England, which invented the game, against India, which provides anchor to the International Cricket Council. The contest is a reflection of the changing hierarchy in the game not just in terms of governance but also as a pointer to relative ability with India being the reigning No. 1 while England is at the third spot.

The history of Tests commenced when Australia and England squared up at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on March 15, 1877. Australia won that game by 45 runs, England won the second Test by four wickets and the drawn 1-1 series heralded a sport that stretched time, revealed character and evoked an old-world romance.

Evolutionary cycle

Myths were born, brands were nurtured like the ‘Ashes' and teams went through the evolutionary cycle of stumble, stand up, dominate and wither. Like England, West Indies and Australia before it, India has now stamped its authority on the five-day game. And the pitch, with its intrigue whipped up by that quixotic mix of nature and nurture, added value to that cliché: the glorious uncertainties of the game.

A game needs its heroes for fans to idolise, elevate and shed tears. Test cricket has had its share of larger than life men.

Sir Don Bradman, with a staggering average of 99.94, but a last innings duck that highlighted the lurking irony and pathos in sport, continues to dominate even after his demise in 2001.

Now we have Sachin Tendulkar, holder of all possible batting records – 14,692 runs, 51 hundreds – and a man who continues to hold a nation in thrall since 1989.

Sport is also about those who break the stereotypes, and Muttiah Muralitharan, with his bag of 800 Test wickets, has shattered many a fixed notion.

The list of heroes ranging from domineering batsmen like Sir Vivian Richards to bowlers with menace and flair like a Michael Holding or a Shane Warne, is too exhaustive to write down.

India, meanwhile, has gifted aesthetics through men from Ranjitsinhji (who played for England) to G.R. Viswanath to V.V.S. Laxman; grit through Sunil Gavaskar, Rahul Dravid and Anil Kumble; guile through Bishan Singh Bedi, E.A.S. Prasanna, B.S. Chandrasekhar and S. Venkatraghavan; effervescence through Kapil Dev and Virender Sehwag, and unconventional leadership through M.A.K. Pataudi, Sourav Ganguly and Dhoni.

Cut to the larger picture, Tests have evolved well with the introduction of neutral umpires and better protective gear. More results other than dull draw have become the norm, while men such as Sehwag are not averse to hitting a six to reach a milestone. Yet there is cause for worry.

Ultimate form

Corruption, terrorism and a public lacking patience will test the ICC's promise to nurture the ‘ultimate form of the game.' The spot-fixing crisis that plagued Pakistan at Lord's last year, the hail of bullets that were fired at the Sri Lankan team bus in Lahore in 2009 and the sad visual of near empty stands at Mohali while Tendulkar went past Brian Lara's record of 11,953 runs are all cautionary tales that need to be studied.

Cricket's lesser versions like the One-Day Internationals and Twenty20, and the Indian Premier League can also consume Tests. This is a serious issue that the ICC has to handle adroitly.

The Future Tours Programme has promised more marquee series such as the Ashes and the ones between India and Australia and that augurs well.

Razor-edge quality

Tests will find new followers only if matches of razor-edge quality, like the one Laxman, Dravid and Harbhajan Singh orchestrated at the Eden Gardens (Kolkata) in 2001 against Steve Waugh's men, happen at regular intervals. And yes, new heroes ought to rise.

Tendulkar, Dravid, Ricky Ponting and Jacques Kallis to name a few are in the twilight of their careers, but the men who will step into their enormous shoes are yet to be found.

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 04:13 AM [Full View]

Graeme Swann — a rare breed

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Graeme Swann is a rare cricketer, one who is increasingly difficult to find these days: a high-quality performer who doesn't take himself too seriously.

He had the press in splits on Tuesday at Lord's, answering straight, earnestly asked questions with the humour that has made him such a rage on Twitter.

Did he have plans for India's batsmen or would he react to what happened in the middle? “We have an army of backroom staff whose job it is to form game-plans after studying the batsmen,” said Swann. “And then it's about hoping the batsmen fall for Plan A or Plan B, and not Plans C and D because we don't have them.”

The truth is…

Was he more determined to do well against India because it's coached by Duncan Fletcher? “I've read that Duncan and I have an ill-tempered relationship, but the truth is Duncan and I don't have a relationship,” said the 32-year-old off-spinner. “I wasn't good enough to be picked when he was coaching England. That was that. Besides you can read all about it in my upcoming book.”

Swann's view on batsmen isn't uncommon — as a rule, bowlers regard batsmen as a pampered lot with a sense of entitlement — but no one has expressed this sentiment with as much feeling.

Asked about the arrangement of not using ball-tracking technology in the Decision Review System (DRS), he said there was a collective groan from the batsmen in the dressing room.

“A true batsman has never been legitimately out,” said Swann rolling his eyes.

“Any chance they get to stay out there they'll take. But in my view it (ball-tracking technology) should be used because umpiring standards have gone through the roof. They now know exactly what lbws to give.”

To target Dhoni

Swann picked Indian captain M.S. Dhoni as the man England would target.

“It'll be risky to focus all our energies on Sachin (Tendulkar) because someone else will come through the backdoor then,” he said.

“Dhoni is perhaps the most charismatic player India has ever had, you only need to go to India to see what hold he has there. I think he's probably more important to that team than anyone.”

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From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 04:50 AM [Full View]

England v India, 1st Test, Lord's
A contest that's equal to the hype

Lord's operates on the same characteristics that have defined Rahul Dravid's career: discipline, order, balance, elegance, simplicity and respect

Andrew Miller at Lord's

July 19, 2011
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Duncan Fletcher and Sachin Tendulkar at Lord's, July 19 2011
Sachin Tendulkar and Duncan Fletcher plot England's downfall in the first Test © Getty Images

There is a scene in the acclaimed documentary Fire in Babylon in which the great West Indians of the 1970s and 80s reflect on the "Calypso" generation that preceded their rise to world domination. Turning up, giving everyone a good show, then losing in a charming fashion - just as they did on the tied-Test tour of Australia in 1960-61 - was a trait that may have proved endearing, but it was one that Clive Lloyd's mean machine soon made it their mission to banish.

A similar change of mindset has taken hold of India's cricketers in the space of a generation. Twenty-one years ago, almost to the week, these two teams took part in one of the most acclaimed mismatches of all time -the Lord's Test of 1990, when Kiran More's fumble set Graham Gooch on his way to a career-best 333, and England to victory by 247 runs. Along the way, however, India's own calypso qualities captured the English public's imagination - from the impossibly wristy riposte of their captain, Mohammad Azharuddin, through Kapil Dev's four consecutive sixes to save the follow-on, and through an outstanding one-handed running catch from a 17-year-old prodigy, Sachin Tendulkar - who, within a fortnight, would record the first of his 99 not out international centuries.

As Wisden Cricket Monthly's editor, David Frith, wrote at the time, that match played out like a midsummer dream, and two decades on, Tendulkar's enduring presence in India's ranks confirms the other-worldliness of that era. At some stage in the coming days, Tendulkar will march out to the crease for his fifth Test appearance at the game's grandest venue, knowing that he has an opportunity to record arguably the most incredible achievement in one of the greatest sporting careers of them all. Perhaps more importantly, however, he'll be seeking to cement his team's credentials as the most formidable outfit in the modern-day game.

However and wherever it arrives - and he will surely not fall Bradman-esquely short - the romance of Tendulkar's hundredth hundred will be a distant echo of those early days in international cricket. The team of which he remains such a formidable component has changed beyond recognition in the intervening years, in attitude as much as output. These days, India sits atop both Test and one-day trees, and go about their business with a swagger that, like West Indies and Australia before them, reflects their sense of entitlement. They are the game's modern-day galacticos, and they play with expectation where hope once held sway.

Where England are concerned, that attitude is particularly justified. Despite a supposed fallibility outside of Asia, India have not lost at home or away in five series since Rahul Dravid first appeared on the scene in 1996, and despite England's belief that greentops are the key to ending that sequence, their traumatic defeats at Headingley in 2002 and Trent Bridge five years later are potent reminders of the class that resides in their opponents' batting ranks. India have lost just two series out of 15 since their mould-breaking triumph in 2007, and none in the last three years. The financial might of the BCCI is nowadays matched, in no uncertain terms, by an intimidatory on-field clout.

Mind you, England are themselves in a mean streak of Test form, with seven series wins and a draw in eight outings since May 2009, which means that the coming contest ought to be the finest tussle on these shores since the epic Ashes summer of 2005. Then as now, two genuine contenders for the World Test Championship crown are about to go head to head, and if the hype surrounding this series is more muted than one might expect in the circumstances, then that is most likely a reflection of the two teams' obsessions with their principal foes, Australia and Pakistan - against whom they each recorded a memorable triumph in the winter just gone.

Nevertheless, a contest of this calibre needs no over-egging, and it is strangely refreshing that the cricket has, for once, been left to do much of the talking. If England can win the series by two clear Tests out of four, they will have achieved their stated ambition of becoming the world's No.1 Test side, a position they've not held since Peter May held sway in the early 1950s. That scoreline might be too much to expect, even for a team that condemned Australia to three innings defeats on home soil in the recent Ashes, but there's little doubt that England are primed for the challenge that awaits them - more so, arguably, that their opponents who were a clear second-best in their solitary warm-up against Somerset earlier in the week.

It was not an auspicious arrival, as Somerset racked up a grand total of 685 for 5 in two innings, either side of rolling their opponents for 224. However, there's one particular member of the Indian party who will shrug his shoulders at such events. Throughout his seven-year tenure as England coach, Duncan Fletcher treated warm-up matches with disdain, often using 13 or 14 players in what amounted to glorified nets sessions. It is an attitude that could not be further removed from the approach of his fellow Zimbabwean, Andy Flower who, back in November, treated England's three first-class fixtures in the lead-up to the Ashes as unofficial Tests, and reaped the rewards of his team's intensity.

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Fletcher's crossing of the floor promises to be the zestiest subplot of a spicy summer. The manner of his departure in 2007 was bitter in the extreme, and continues to mask the extent to which his efforts laid the foundations of the world-class side that England are now becoming. To judge from recent history, his calm and considered manner will fit well with an Indian dressing room that prefers its coaches in the John Wright/Gary Kirsten backroom mould, even if Dravid admitted they are still getting to grips with his well-disguised sense of humour.

Nevertheless, his credentials as a pure batting coach are not in doubt, with Andrew Strauss and Kevin Pietersen among his keenest disciples in the England team. With that in mind, the insider knowledge he can impart to India's attack could have more bearing on the series than any nuggets of wisdom he can pass on to the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid and VVS Laxman. A trio with 99 Test centuries between them are a bit long in the tooth to learn the merits of the forward press.

It will not have escaped Fletcher's attention that India is the one Test nation that he never managed to beat during his days with England, so it would doubtless grate if Flower were to put that record straight at the first attempt. But despite their common heritage and studious demeanours, the nature of their rivalry is very much a theoretical one. As Flower showed by ducking the victory podium in Sydney back in January, he too prefers his players to hog the limelight.

The key head-to-heads will be on-field ones. Andrew Strauss's twin innings of 78 and 109 not out at Taunton took some of the edge off his duel with Zaheer Khan, even if another cheap left-arm dismissal at Lord's will reawaken the clamour in double-quick time. James Anderson's lateral movement will be starkly complemented by the steepling bounce of Chris Tremlett - two bowlers who have matured beyond recognition since their fitfully impressive performances in 2007, and whose efforts against India's senior batsmen could define the shape of the series.

And then there's England's own run-machines - Alastair Cook, a centurion on debut against India in 2006, and the possessor of six hundreds in his last ten Tests, and Jonathan Trott, whose average after 21 appearances (62.23) exceeds even that of Tendulkar. With Kevin Pietersen and Ian Bell in exquisite form in the third Test against Sri Lanka, there's no reason for England to question their right to challenge the world's best - especially given the size of the hole left by Virender Sehwag at the top of India's order. More than any other batsman, his ability and willingness to batter good bowling sets him apart from his peers, and therefore his absence for one, maybe two, Tests is hugely significant.

The absence of DRS could also be a major factor, not so much for the decisions that go one way or the other, but for the friction that could be created between two sides that will not need much invitation to get feisty with one another. As England discovered to their cost at Trent Bridge four years ago, when a misplaced jelly bean sparked a diplomatic incident, India's players know how to fight - not only their corner, but their opponent's as well. That Calypso tendency is a thing of the dim and distant past. When battle commences on Thursday, neither side will have any doubt as to the intensity.

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From: raghavendran on 20th July 2011 07:54 AM [Full View]

Lara will be there at Lord's for watch the test and Sachin score his 100th 100

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 09:03 AM [Full View]

India have a real chance in the series: Steve Waugh
- ‘Ishant and Zaheer have a big role to play’
LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI

London: The talismanic Steve Waugh feels India have a “real chance” of winning the four-Test series which begins Thursday.

“Clearly, the way Ishant Sharma bowled in the West Indies is a plus for India... He and Zaheer Khan have a big role to play... The Zaheer-Andrew Strauss battle is the one to look out for... Stevvie

“Then, we all know about India’s batting... Look at Harbhajan Singh, he has two Test hundreds... India have a real chance,” Steve said, on Tuesday afternoon.

Asked if he agreed with Strauss, the England captain, placing the series on a par with the Ashes, Steve replied: “The Ashes will still be the iconic series, like any between India and Pakistan... Australia versus India, in recent years, has been a notch below.”

Steve felt that James Anderson and Jonathan Trott could make the biggest difference for England.

As for former India captain Anil Kumble, Steve’s colleague on the MCC’s world cricket committee, he is looking forward to an “evenly contested” series.

“I’m glad to see Ishant back in form... Ishant and Zak (Zaheer) have their work cut out. Harbhajan and the rest have to support,” Kumble pointed out.

Kumble, however, conceded that Virender Sehwag’s absence was a “blow.” Sehwag, who is recovering from shoulder surgery, is set to miss the first two Tests.

With Suresh Raina scoring a hundred in Taunton, it’s taken for granted that Yuvraj Singh’s comeback is going to be delayed. The three remaining middle order berths are, after all, booked.

Sreesanth and Praveen Kumar are in a ‘tussle’ for the third seamer’s spot. Sreesanth seems to have the edge, but this one is headed for a tight finish.

It has been raining on and off and the forecast isn’t great for the rest of the week either.

Meanwhile, Ashish Nehra practised with the team at Lord’s. “I’ve been sent here by the Board to consult a specialist before I make myself available for the lone T20 International and the five ODIs... I’m not having a problem at all,” he told The Telegraph.

Nehra underwent surgery on his right hand soon after the World Cup, for an injury sustained during the semi-final, in Mohali.

LIKELY INDIA XI: Gautam Gambhir, Abhinav Mukund, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, V.V.S. Laxman, Suresh Raina, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/111072...y_14262596.jsp

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 10:18 AM [Full View]

A fan from an other forum met yuvraj singh in london it seems and he posted as such below
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Yuvi
Met him today, got WC DVD signed.
Cool guy. Told him I want my WC final ticket signed, and he told me to come to the team hotel and he'll do it

Forgot to ask him if he is going to be opening on Thursday

Also met CG

Every meeting with Yuvi has been cool.

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 10:19 AM [Full View]

This was from another member who happen to meet yuvi again.

I met him too! A very nice guy. He was at HMV in Oxford St.
Even had a bit of banter with him.

Me: Good luck for the test series mate, I really hope you do well
YS: Thanks a lot mate, it means a lot
Me: You won't need the luck for the ODIs though
YS: Why?
Me: Stuart Broad init
YS: (after a long pause) *a loud laugh*

From: satissh_r on 20th July 2011 02:01 PM [Full View]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...eat-India.html

N Hussain on the Indian team..

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 02:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Hussain

Wriddhaman Saha

Sorry mate, the reserve wicketkeeper in a squad that contains MS Dhoni is not going to have much to do.

- but vaaya vechukinu gammunu keda mamey, jinx Agi tholaikka pOvudhu. If saha plays even one test due to Dhoni's injured or something, India'll not win the series

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 02:51 PM [Full View]

BTW, Hussain says two things
1. Sachin doesnt fancy steepling bounce or words to that effect - seringa hussain officer
2. Unlike other indian batsmen, sachin is not a flat track bully AmAm - hussain saaru evLO different conditionsla perform paNNi irukkArAm. How many international batsment arent flat track bullies? Why single out Indians alone? Why does this happen often from English and Aussie players? What agenda do they have?

namma nEram, English top 6 is in top form and will outshine Indian top 6 in this series...

From: kid-glove on 20th July 2011 03:10 PM [Full View]

Didn't find NAsser's article extreme, but yeah, it's up to our batsmen to prove him wrong.

From: jinju on 20th July 2011 03:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

BTW, Hussain says two things
1. Sachin doesnt fancy steepling bounce or words to that effect - seringa hussain officer
2. Unlike other indian batsmen, sachin is not a flat track bully AmAm - hussain saaru evLO different conditionsla perform paNNi irukkArAm. How many international batsment arent flat track bullies? Why single out Indians alone? Why does this happen often from English and Aussie players? What agenda do they have?

namma nEram, English top 6 is in top form and will outshine Indian top 6 in this series...

plum, he mentioned that indian batsmen flat track bully thing on gautam gambhir, where he goes "He’s not an old-style Indian bully, scoring easy runs on flat tracks."

the killer one is on sreesanth

Sree Santh
A split personality. Polite off the field, calling me ‘Sir’ and ‘Mr Hussain’, but can be a complete lunatic on it.

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 03:27 PM [Full View]

What is Stuart Broad on the field? Atleast Sreesanth didnt throw the ball on opposition batsmen.
This is what I call agenda based reporting by English media/players etc. Sreesanth-ai mattum target paNNi loosunu establish paNNa vENdiyadhu. Same article Broad paththi ezhudha sollunga - passionate, committed, sincere, hence he oversteps the line SOMETIMES apdinnu ezhudhivAinga. bleddy rascals

From: jinju on 20th July 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Sreesanth-ai mattum target paNNi loosunu establish paNNa vENdiyadhu.

sreesanth doesn't require such favors

!

From: sathya_1979 on 20th July 2011 03:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

sreesanth doesn't require such favors

!

From: kid-glove on 20th July 2011 04:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

What is Stuart Broad on the field? Atleast Sreesanth didnt throw the ball on opposition batsmen.
This is what I call agenda based reporting by English media/players etc. Sreesanth-ai mattum target paNNi loosunu establish paNNa vENdiyadhu. Same article Broad paththi ezhudha sollunga - passionate, committed, sincere, hence he oversteps the line SOMETIMES apdinnu ezhudhivAinga. bleddy rascals

I agree with the general sentiment. English press wouldn't be as charitable if Sreeshanth or Bhajji played darts with Jelly beans..

But they're perfectly capable of attacking their own in a different context. Atherton using 'Plodder' & 'Donkey' to describe Cook.

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

What I find funny is our Indian "analysts", commentators, newspapermen, bloggers, "True Cricket followers" etc regurgitate this and find Sreesanth offensive but not Broad. Just blind regurgitation of what the Englishman says.

From: raajarasigan on 20th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

vidunga plum.. ஸ்ரீசாந்த் ball'ye பதில் சொல்லுவாப்ல... (ithai yaarum thappa purinjukkapdathu..)

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

I hope Sreesanth doesnt play as he seems to be extremely mediocre - far past his promising days. Fraveen pehelwan seems a better option - although it is not going to matter who gives out 100+ runs as England log up 400+

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 08:48 PM [Full View]

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MS Dhoni and Andrew Strauss pose with the series trophy a day before the first Test, Lord's, July 20, 2011

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

India in England 2011

'England are just going to do enough and win 1-0'

How do you think the England v India Test series will go? Here's what former players have to say

ESPNcricinfo staff

August 26, 2009

Text size: A | AThe 2000th Test, the 100th England-India Test, a possible 100th century for Sachin Tendulkar and the No. 1 spot on the Test table up for grabs. Yes, it's safe to say the England-India Test series that begins tomorrow is in the spotlight. So what do former players - Indian, English and neutral - expect to happen in the much-anticipated clash? Here's a selection of all the punditry.

Nari Contractor: "In Sehwag's absence India will be found wanting, we will be experimenting at the top." © Associated Press

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"England will start as favourites since they will be playing at home. Also, they have a better seam attack that will be able to exploit the conditions better. Having said that, India have a better side on paper, definitely a longer batting line-up. It could come down to a contest between quality batting sides. At the moment, England's top six are as good as any in world cricket, India's strength has always been its batting."
Allan Lamb, the former England captain, puts the focus on the batsmen

"England have some of the best seamers in their armoury. Handling Chris Tremlett will be a tough task for the Indians. Then, there is James Anderson, who can swing the ball beautifully. Swann won't be as threatening as others because Indians are good players of spin. They are a very good fielding side. India have also improved, but we have been dropping catches in the slip cordon and that is the area we need to improve upon."
Farokh Engineer, the former India wicket-keeper, is wary of the England bowling and the Indian catching

"England are a good side. They have variety in their attack. They have great top order batting, for them to make next step and stay there it will be about how they play the game. If they just stick to process and wear oppositions down they will not win series by whitewashes. They are just going to do enough and win 1-0. Strauss needs to put them in a situation where it is win at all costs. Then it is fun, it is energising and makes it entertaining for everyone."
Shane Warne, Australia's spin king, says England will win, but not by much

"We are not playing in an era when we have a great team like Australia who have dominated for so long. They were so much better than the rest of the world. India are a good team, but you can certainly see England within a year or so getting there."

Michael Vaughan, who was England captain when, in 2007, India won their first Test series in England for the first time in 21 years, doesn't think there is much between the teams

"India won the recently concluded West Indies tour and there seems to be no reason for not continuing with the feat in England. The Indian team will surely come back victorious."
Kapil Dev, India's original World-Cup-winning captain, oozes confidence

"We used to quake in our boots when the West Indies batting order was read out. Greenidge, Haynes, Gomes, Richards, Richardson, Lloyd, Dujon, and then the nuclear warhead [the bowling line-up] after that. Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Kohli, Dhoni has a similar ring to it. But I think England have a better bowling attack. Bounce and swing will unsettle the Indian batsmen because they're not used to that at home."
Bob Willis, the former England fast bowler, turns the focus back on the host's bowling

"To me, on paper, it's a very even contest. I think the pitches could define which way the series goes. I wouldn't suggest we play it on green seamers, because I don't think their attack is bad. Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma and Munaf Patel - they'll be decent on seaming tracks, which is why it's quite even. In terms of turning wickets as well, you've got Harbhajan Singh, you've got Graeme Swann."
Graham Thorpe, the former England batsman says the pitches will play a part, though he's not entirely sure which way they'll swing the balance

"I can see draws at both Lord's and Trent Bridge, and if that is the case then the third Test at Edgbaston might well be the time for England to go all-out for the 20 Indian wickets they need to win a match. If you want to get to No. 1 in the world then you have to be prepared at times to all-out attack."
John Emburey, the former England offspinner, says the third Test could be the key

"It will be a contest of their bowlers versus our batsmen. Sehwag on top would always relieve pressure on the rest of the side, but in his absence, India will be found wanting. We will be experimenting at the top in Sehwag's absence, so that makes us vulnerable and if two of these three legends [Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman] don't stand up, like they have done for so long, India are in trouble."
Nari Contractor, who played for India in the late '50s, factors in the absence of Virender Sehwag

"India have a real chance. Clearly, the way Ishant Sharma bowled in the West Indies is a plus for India. He and Zaheer Khan have a big role to play. The Zaheer-Andrew Strauss battle is the one to look out for. Then, we all know about India's batting. Look at Harbhajan Singh, he has two Test hundreds."
Steve Waugh, who captained the Australia at their peak, thinks India are in with a chance

"If England win the toss, bat first and play 5 bowlers, they will win the Lord's Test, weather permitting."
Tony Greig, the former England captain, knows what the hosts need to do to win the series opener

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/523973.html

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

This is perhaps the most difficult/impossible 12-15 months of Test cricket we will play/have played since the SA Tour started last December and ending in Aus next year. Make no mistake fellas that India has the world's first rank rankles almost everybody and it's time to retain it. We passed the SA Test but England is the toughest challenge of all. If we win against England and Australia this year we can be comfortably be placed No 1 for the next 2-3 years at least as we will have mostly home tours or a NZ away tour for calendar years 11/12, 12 and 12/13. Yes, England will be coming here next year but I back India to do well in India.

Zakky can do and will do well but he needs backup. Adhumillama Annathai thevai illama edho vaay veesirukaar pola. I pray he backs up his words.
Ishanth do your Ponting Perth act 2008and not your IPL 09/10. The conditions are ideal for a 6 and a half footer like you. Bend your back like you did in WI.
Sreesanth do your SA 06/07 and rip snorter to Kallis.
Bhajji do something and win a match like Kolkatta 2010 and 2nd Test Durban 7 wickets.

Go for it boys. I want to see a series win of India.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 20th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Its always been trouble for any side which underestimates our bowling line up. SA did the same early this year..... they barely managed to save the series....i see the english batsmen also struggling in seamer friendly wickets....

From: satissh_r on 20th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

Its always been trouble for any side which underestimates our bowling line up. SA did the same early this year..... they barely managed to save the series....i see the english batsmen also struggling in seamer friendly wickets....

+ 100000000

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

.....

Originally Posted by jinju

sreesanth doesn't require such favors

!

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

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Thambi nee enna dravid kooda irukkae

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 10:36 PM [Full View]

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/135000/135077.jpg

From: Plum on 20th July 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

All set for a fresh round of English(or british or well, anglo-saxon considering the saffers and irishmen in the team) gloating from tomorrow?

From: VinodKumar's on 20th July 2011 11:19 PM [Full View]

Stan,

Please put Dhoni and Strauss picture in the first page

From: VinodKumar's on 20th July 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

Dravid picture ah RD thread la poturukalamae ... ipppo poda poraen

one more day to go ...

Come on India, Dhikadho

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 11:30 PM [Full View]

Good idea

. Done, Vinod. I was amused at what Tendulkar Jr was doing talking to Dravid in the official nets session.

From: VinodKumar's on 20th July 2011 11:37 PM [Full View]

Thanks, Stan.

Also check this.

http://www.ndtv.com/album/listing/sp...i-6682/slide/1

Arjun also practiced in the nets along with others. Yethavathu match la yeraki vituruvaangalo

From: ajithfederer on 20th July 2011 11:48 PM [Full View]

Jeez, I wonder how he gets to train along with the team.

From: Sourav on 21st July 2011 07:07 AM [Full View]

‘Will stick to our cricket’
London, July 20 , DH News Service

Virender Sehwag’s absence, Mahendra Singh Dhoni conceded, will force India to play defensive cricket. Asked if the onus was on the top-ranked team in the world to play an attacking brand of cricket, the Indian skipper said he didn’t necessarily feel so.
“It’s about where exactly you specialise,” he noted on Wednesday. “We’ll stick to the kind of cricket we know. When it comes to attacking cricket and Virender Sehwag is the opener for you, you don’t need to say anything because we all know what he is capable of. But we have different openers, (Abhinav) Mukund will be opening with Gautam Gambhir, so it’s very important to stick to the natural game that the individuals have.

“We’ll stick to our game, what we are good at and what our strengths are. It's not only about attacking cricket, at times a good defensive shot is as good as playing an offensive shot,” he explained.

Dhoni once again explained India’s rationale behind their objection to the Decision Review System, which will used in this series to adjudicate verdicts other than lbws.
“We're not really convinced 100 percent as of now when it comes to the (ball) tracking system, especially with the spinners and the kind of bounce the ball generates. So until we’re 100 percent satisfied, we won’t go on with something that’s not really satisfactory when it comes to our views. But of course we are quite happy with Hotspot. I feel that's a very good technology to be used,” he remarked.

While the series against England may potentially decide whether India continue to stay at the top of the Test rankings or make way for others, Dhoni played down the importance of the rubber. “Every series is as important, whether it’s Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, or any other side, at home or respective countries. Every game of Test cricket is as important. England is a good side, like any other side. I would rank every series as tough, and a chance to improve ourselves as cricketers, and as a team,” he offered.

British Indians’ support, Dhoni admitted, will help a great deal. “Support does play a crucial part. We have a fair amount of support in England. It was quite visible in the T20 WC over here at The Oval against Pakistan. It will be crucial... when the going gets tough, that extra support from the crowd can get you going,” he opined.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...r-cricket.html

mukund than opening... dhoni has confirmed it... athukkulla yuvi opening-nu purali kelappitanga... i guess praveen will get a chance over sreesanth. kammman india!

From: Sourav on 21st July 2011 07:21 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Sourav

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From: raghavendran on 21st July 2011 07:54 AM [Full View]

rain expected today..

From: jinju on 21st July 2011 09:22 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

What I find funny is our Indian "analysts", commentators, newspapermen, bloggers, "True Cricket followers" etc regurgitate this and find Sreesanth offensive but not Broad. Just blind regurgitation of what the Englishman says.

plum, i don't know what u r talking about Indian analysts' white man syndrome etc. all i know is, sree has let down many of us with his performance on the field. forget the tinu yohannans and abey kuruvillas, this guy had the talent to make it big, and we all were proud as him being the first one from kerala, but his repeated assertions that he's 'matured now and will focus on the job' before every series and then going on to do something downright silly on the field is really really disappointing, so much so that as u told at the young age of 28 he seems to be past those promising days. i can see the frustration here when a murali vijay or DK underperforms consistently, there's a lot of sarcasm stemming from disappointment, athe maathiri thaan...at least, these guys focus on their job and try their best but fail, but this lad just loses it when he is on the field! yes, stuart broad is a repeat offender, take him to task and ban him permanent, i care two hoots about him! i hope u got what the point is.

From: VinodKumar's on 21st July 2011 10:02 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Sourav

vinothu... intha thadaiyavathu join pannu...

Joined ... approve pannunga firstu

From: ajithfederer on 21st July 2011 10:03 AM [Full View]

Rasanai ketta mummy daddies

London: Women members of the famous Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) have been asked to dress appropriately for the historic Lord’s Test between India and England, which starts here tomorrow.

The MCC dress code for women states: dresses or skirts or trousers worn with blouses, and appropriate shoes. Dresses and blouses may be sleeveless. Ryan Pierse/Getty Images
Some male members of the MCC have apparently expressed their displeasure at the sight of women in jeans and showing ‘toe cleavage’ at the hallowed pavilion. Their grouse is that some of the women members are exposing too much flesh at Lord’s, which they feel is not cricket.

Fifty women have been granted membership of the exclusive club since a ban on them was overturned in 1999, but now some of the 18,000 male members are said to be disgruntled, reported the ‘Daily Mail‘.

The MCC dress code demands men wear tailored coats, ties, trousers and ‘acceptable shoes’. For women it states: “Ladies should wear dresses; or skirts or trousers worn with blouses, and appropriate shoes. Dresses and blouses may be sleeveless.”

Rules on clothing and behaviour at the Home of Cricket are stricter than any other ground in the world. “The dress code is very strict. The code is clearly printed in the members’ books and there are no exceptions,” an MCC official was quoted as saying by the ‘Daily Mail‘.

In the ground regulations, it states: “No betting (unless specifically authorised by the MCC Committee), unnecessary noise, or confusion of any kind is permitted in any part of the Ground.

“Flags, Banners, Musical Instruments, Klaxons, Rattles, Fireworks and other articles which may constitute an annoyance to spectators are also prohibited inside the Ground. “The wearing of Fancy Dress costumes and oversized hats inside the Ground is prohibited.”

The rules on guests changed this year, allowing each member to bring in two friends for T20 matches.

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 10:11 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

rain expected today..

appO viNtiNANu lEdhu nONtiNANu vA?

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 10:19 AM [Full View]

Jinj, take stuart broad and ban him? Who is going to do that? Who dares do that? Not the all powerful bcci. Trust me.
Behind all the BCCI is evil lurks the anglo saxon evil which is powerful in getting its agenda done even when they aren't in power. And on top, they influence opinion to blame bcci for everything.
Indian analysts are so lazy they can't do their research and regurgitate the English view.
What I find funny is that people still don't realise the evil of a entity which manipulates things in its favour even when their opponents are in power

From: jinju on 21st July 2011 11:00 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Jinj, take stuart broad and ban him? Who is going to do that? Who dares do that? Not the all powerful bcci. Trust me.
Behind all the BCCI is evil lurks the anglo saxon evil which is powerful in getting its agenda done even when they aren't in power. And on top, they influence opinion to blame bcci for everything.
Indian analysts are so lazy they can't do their research and regurgitate the English view.
What I find funny is that people still don't realise the evil of a entity which manipulates things in its favour even when their opponents are in power

ada vidungappa, indha evil keevil ellaam...namma team nalla vilayaadanum, avlo thaan.

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

The MCC dress code demands men wear tailored coats, ties, trousers and ‘acceptable shoes’. For women it states: “Ladies should wear dresses; or skirts or trousers worn with blouses, and appropriate shoes. Dresses and blouses may be sleeveless.”

Rules on clothing and behaviour at the Home of Cricket are stricter than any other ground in the world. “The dress code is very strict. The code is clearly printed in the members’ books and there are no exceptions,” an MCC official was quoted as saying by the ‘Daily Mail‘.

The wearing of Fancy Dress costumes and oversized hats inside the Ground is prohibited.”

The rules on guests changed this year, allowing each member to bring in two friends for T20 matches.

Lord's saar, Lord's saar, ulla enna podanumnu sonneenga na naanga prepared-aa varuvom nna! what kodumai saravan this!

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 11:35 AM [Full View]

Hey Plum, they didnt ban or fine Dhoni for his disparaging remarks. Broad was fined.

From: jinju on 21st July 2011 11:51 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Hey Plum, they didnt ban or fine Dhoni for his disparaging remarks. Broad was fined.

athulayum oru ulkuthirukku. athu enna nu thalaivar plum ippo kooruvaar. plumji, pls do the honors!

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 11:57 AM [Full View]

What disparaging remarks? "We have had incidents with you before, Daryl" , "We could have gone to hotel earlier if only correct decisions had been given". That's a statement of fact, not a tirade. Tirade is what I do here. Ranting is what I do here.

The Cricket world has seen several tirades from Ponting publicly humiliating them, Shane Warne throwing profanities at them. Not a suggestion from anyone in the world, except me, that they should have been punished for that. Several times. The cumulative effect of all their misdemeanours must have been several life bans for each of them. Did that happen?

Yet, Dhoni should be fined for a statement of facts, that doesnt attack anyone in particular. As an intl captain, is he not entitled to lament about the lack of umpiring standards?
And such innocous remarks from Dhoni ought to be fined?

As for Broad, how many times not appealing and celebrating before umpire gives out? THrowing the ball at opposition? He has got away with meagre fines for several misdemeanours. If you argue that he has been over-punished....I dont know what to say.

England-Lanka. English websites berate both England and Lanka for poor over-rate through the series - but only the Lankan captain is fined by ICC.

Dhoni too is marked for poor over rate - they'll ban him for one match in this very series if ICC gets an opportunity to slap poor over rate against India - even if it is caused by Trott's inter-ball shenaignans. Just wait and watch...England will maintain poor over rate without the captain copping a warning or ban, but Dhoni will have it even if English batsmen delay stuff and the indian over rate gets screwed because of it,

From: jinju on 21st July 2011 12:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

What disparaging remarks? "We have had incidents with you before, Daryl" , "We could have gone to hotel earlier if only correct decisions had been given". That's a statement of fact, not a tirade. Tirade is what I do here. Ranting is what I do here.

The Cricket world has seen several tirades from Ponting publicly humiliating them, Shane Warne throwing profanities at them. Not a suggestion from anyone in the world, except me, that they should have been punished for that. Several times. The cumulative effect of all their misdemeanours must have been several life bans for each of them. Did that happen?

Yet, Dhoni should be fined for a statement of facts, that doesnt attack anyone in particular. As an intl captain, is he not entitled to lament about the lack of umpiring standards?
And such innocous remarks from Dhoni ought to be fined?

As for Broad, how many times not appealing and celebrating before umpire gives out? THrowing the ball at opposition? He has got away with meagre fines for several misdemeanours. If you argue that he has been over-punished....I dont know what to say.

England-Lanka. English websites berate both England and Lanka for poor over-rate through the series - but only the Lankan captain is fined by ICC.

Dhoni too is marked for poor over rate - they'll ban him for one match in this very series if ICC gets an opportunity to slap poor over rate against India - even if it is caused by Trott's inter-ball shenaignans. Just wait and watch...England will maintain poor over rate without the captain copping a warning or ban, but Dhoni will have it even if English batsmen delay stuff and the indian over rate gets screwed because of it,

many a time aleem dar has too :respect:

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 12:05 PM [Full View]

I don't care about Ponting & Warne getting away with murder, Dhoni's comments were disrespectful. If it were made by M.Clarke to Hariharan, this place would turn in to war zone..

From: jinju on 21st July 2011 12:07 PM [Full View]

yep, they were definitely not 'innocuous' plum!

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 12:45 PM [Full View]

If it were made by M.Clarke to Hariharan, this place would turn in to war zone..

Oh yes it would. Just as there wouldnt be any outrage over that from the people who are outraged by Dhoni viz a viz Harper. Including you, I suspect.

BTW, No danger of any Indian umpire making it to the elite panel for a long time now so this is a hypothetical scenario.
And to wit, Ponting has let it rip against Aleem Dar, of all umpires. That should qualify him for a life sentence, in my opinion.

If you dont care about Ponting and Warne getting away for serious crimes, then please dont care about Dhoni getting away for much lesser crimes, too. Infact, it isnt a crime. Disagreement with an umpire cannot be more politely expressed than Dhoni did. Dickie Bird would have approved.
I have grown to respect Dhoni a lot in the last few months - and not because of his Trophy wins

From: scorpio on 21st July 2011 12:49 PM [Full View]

Today's Hindu carried a column written by Gavaskar. Ovvoru word-um Plum ezhudinaa maadiriyE irundhadhu

Link kedaichaa post pannunga. Very nicley written, titled as-India will rather do than talk.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 12:54 PM [Full View]

To sound like Zizek; all powers are hypocritical, only the magnitude varies.

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 12:55 PM [Full View]

What is disrespectful about Dhoni's comments? Educate me.
Like in the politeness vs mokkai discussion in the politics threads, is it only about what you say? How about what you do? Isnt Harper's mediocrity disrespectful to players and Cricket? And his arrogance against a set of players?

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 01:04 PM [Full View]

We are embodying the same arrogance and hypocritical control that we despised in the bullies.

Kohli sending a flying kiss to Fidel Edwards and engage in roughing up tactics. Mishra showing frustration in appalling language and body language. Everyone seems to have turned a blind eye to such shenanigans that they fluff it under the table in name of 'mental disintegration'.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 01:06 PM [Full View]

We are embodying the same arrogance and hypocritical control that we despised in the bullies.

Kohli sending a flying kiss to Fidel Edwards and engage in roughing up tactics. Mishra showing frustration in appalling language and body language. Everyone seems to have turned a blind eye to such shenanigans that they fluff it under the table in name of 'mental disintegration'.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 01:15 PM [Full View]

Plum,
It questions umpire's integrity. If that isnt disrespectful, then what is.

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 01:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Plum,
It questions umpire's integrity. If that isnt disrespectful, then what is.

Integrity or Incompetence?

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 01:26 PM [Full View]

Both, key being WE and IN THE PAST. And saying that we will be in hotel by now severly undermines Windies. If he had a chance, he would retract both comments. Not like him.

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 01:46 PM [Full View]

He wasnt questioning the umpire's integrity -merely, the incompetence. If he plays poorly, everyone from opp media to players to others question his competence. I think players should have more rights to talk about umpires. And if umpires are sensitive flowers, then they should stay at home watching Dora the Explorer and Popeye, the sailor.

I run a team - and if my team makes a mistake that results in impact for business, the business folks tell me - with the whole world in CC - that "if your team(by extension, you) had done its job correctly, we wouldnt have had a $10m loss, what are you going to do about it?"
Welcome to the professional world.

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 01:47 PM [Full View]

Yes, our guys are indulging in the same practices that we despised in Warne and Ponting. But - this is the key - they can adn will be punished more often than those guys ever got. Even now, an English or Aussie(read Broad, Ponting, Watson) receives lesser punishment for the same crime. Why is this not an issue for you?

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 01:47 PM [Full View]

Well, Dhoni didnt say "WE WILL MAKE YOU GROVEL", with all its historically hurtingg connotations for Windies.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 02:17 PM [Full View]

Of course, it's an issue & one that I wouldn't condone *them* (What gave you that suggestion!). But if we keep getting away with these shenanigans without punishment, we don't have a moral high ground either. Two wrongs (doesn't matter if ours is a 'lesser' wrong) don't make it right.

I will let you have the last word. But in the cold light of the day, you'll find a grain of truth in the argument.

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 02:50 PM [Full View]

The key is there is enough outrage over minor offence from Dhoni. Not so in the case of Broad, Watson, Ponting.
I am pretty confident that indians cannot get away with bad behaviour(Gambnhir did get banned, giving Vijay his 15 minutes of fame. One incident he was invovled in in his career he got banned. Same offence, Watson was unpunished, Broad for worse stuff goes unpunished)
So I know who is committing transgressions without getting censure and actual cricketing punishments - and it is not the Indians.

What adds to the fury is that these same anglo saxons whine now that indians go unpunished - when that is clearly not the case.
I'd be happy if atleast we ride rough over the law and then these guys whined.
What a bunch of losers these guys - I really don't think indians and Dhoni unpunished is a burning problem over anglo saxons unpunished

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 03:22 PM [Full View]

Did you watch us play vs Windies?

If there's any team that had any ruffian / lowly demeanor / dissent without showing any remorse or a hint of dignity, it was us.

Of course, you could say windies didn't make a great deal about it. Even Edwards laughed it out with Kohli after end of play. But it's still disgusting to see such types in our own herd.

From: raghavendran on 21st July 2011 03:29 PM [Full View]

great commentry team...the commentry team is as important as the series

harsha,sunny,ravi,sourav,boycott

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st July 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

If England beats India in the series , do they become no 1 in the ICC ranking?? In the morning news on BBC, Struass oda imsai thaanga mudiyala , I had to turn it off

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st July 2011 03:36 PM [Full View]

Flum anneh

U must be supporting Ingilaanthu right

From: Dinesh84 on 21st July 2011 03:37 PM [Full View]

Dhoni wins the toss and elects to bowl first

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 03:37 PM [Full View]

I reserve the right to be disgusted about the predom north indian herd that is at the core of such behaviour in our team. But I'd still not add fuel to the anglo saxon whining becuase it is hypocritcal and what's more distracting from the fact that they are the ones actually guilty of what they are accusing india of.
That's a double whammy - they dominate the icc , get their agenda done and then propogate that india dominates the icc

From: littlemaster1982 on 21st July 2011 03:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Today's Hindu carried a column written by Gavaskar. Ovvoru word-um Plum ezhudinaa maadiriyE irundhadhu

Link kedaichaa post pannunga. Very nicley written, titled as-India will rather do than talk.

Indians will rather do than talk

‘I drive a Porsche. What do you drive? A rickshaw or cycle'? was the question mockingly asked of India's batsmen by England's close fielders on the 2007 India tour of England. Of course Sachin Tendulkar was the one batsman that they dared not ask the question but the effort to make the other Indian players feel inferior and inadequate was a tactic that was tried in that ill tempered series.

Today after the riches of the Indian Premier League, the Indians can turn around and ask ‘just one Porsche? My aide drives that to get my groceries'.

There was also the jelly beans incident when the Indians would find jelly beans around the crease where they were batting. It was supposed to be funny, though nobody excepting the English players saw it that way. It was childish to say the least and I suppose the cricketing Gods would have been groaning too just like they were supposed to, when a few weeks back Sri Lanka's Angelo Mathews deliberately did not take singles so that his partner who was batting in the 90s could get to his century.

Remember Mathews' tactics did not cost the Lankans a win but only delayed it and in a sport where individual achievements are glorified it was a selfless attitude that helped get a young Sri Lankan player a one-day century.

Media support

England have always believed that they can get away with anything because of the media support that they have and have thus had different standards for them and for the opposition. Take for example Andrew Strauss who plays for Middlesex turning out for Somerset just to get some batting practice against the Indian team. How can he play for Somerset unless it was a Somerset's President's Eleven or something like that? If an Indian player playing for one Ranji team had played for another and especially got runs like Strauss did, then there would be howls of protest about BCCI ruling the game and what not.

It won't be any different this time around especially now that the English having beaten the Aussies away from home feel that they should be the number one team and not India which is currently holding the ICC ranking. That is why more than anything cricketing, the team would be well advised not to pay any attention to the Brit media including the broadsheets.

India will soon be completing 64 years of independence from the Brits but there are still many in India for whom the Brit media, many of whom have not even held a bat, have to be given more importance than India's own and even if the Indians write better English.

The encouraging part is that this Indian team is probably the most self-confident outfit that Indian cricket has seen, especially after the World Cup win and will do their own thing as they know it. They will know that this Test is not only the 2000th Test in the history of the game but also the 100th between India and England but that will only be till the toss is made.

That it is being played at Lord's also will go under the radar for most of the players who have only a sprinkling knowledge of the game's history. That is a good thing because there will be no historical baggage to stifle them and they will go out and play in the way they know how to.

If you have noticed, it is the English players who have done the talking before the series. The Indians are not interested in talking. They would rather do than talk and despite the hiccups in the warm-up game they will be ready to show that what matters is what happens on the field and not off it.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 03:49 PM [Full View]

But it's not Australia/England who are accusing Dhoni, I yAm. I don't know why you assume I'm speaking on their behalf.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st July 2011 03:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Indians will rather do than talk

‘I drive a Porsche. What do you drive? A rickshaw or cycle'? was the question mockingly asked of India's batsmen by England's close fielders on the 2007 India tour of England. Of course Sachin Tendulkar was the one batsman that they dared not ask the question but the effort to make the other Indian players feel inferior and inadequate was a tactic that was tried in that ill tempered series.

Really ?

This is nothing but "Pure" racism, I never knew this kind of illicit act was still going in England , that too in 2007

!

Sanga is the "Only" cricketer who "Sledges" back at such remarks !

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 03:57 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar makes many valid points, as does Plum. But doesn't preclude our own metamorphosis to the *other* side (Act 4 of Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake. Fade out)

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 04:02 PM [Full View]

I am telling you it is not a major issue compared to other guys not getting punishment. Given the nature of offences, if you are worried about bad behaviour on cricket field, you should be ranting about Broad, Watson and Ponting first. Dhoni's so-called offence is, really, what - a polite question and a polite remark not particularly directed at any umpire? How does that constitute a great offence that it hurts you to see him unpunished?
Why arent you worried about only Lankan captain fined and marked for level 1 Slow over rate when both England and Lanka bowled slowly in the recent series? This is as reported by their own one-eyed media - it was so pathetic that their patrioitic media itself reported their slow over rate. Still, ICC only punished Lankan captain. Dhoni also got it recently.

So, if India bowls slow in one of these matches, Dhoni will be banned but Strauss will not be despite having bowled so slowly as to cause their own media call it.
Isnt this a bigger disparity in the ICC attitude that needs to be sorted out first?

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

Coz my interests are in best behavior of Indian team, not them..

From: satissh_r on 21st July 2011 04:12 PM [Full View]

Looks like PK is getting the ball to talk

something I've been wanting to see for a while now

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

This is very similar to the tamizh-hindi discussion. Indhi wallahs advising tamilnadu to setup hindi education when in reality whatver little other language education is enshrined only in TN syllabus while indhiwallahs never care about other languages.
As Joe said "Enough of us leading the way. Come on show you can do justice and nyayam too"

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st July 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I am telling you it is not a major issue compared to other guys not getting punishment. Given the nature of offences, if you are worried about bad behaviour on cricket field, you should be ranting about Broad, Watson and Ponting first. Dhoni's so-called offence is, really, what - a polite question and a polite remark not particularly directed at any umpire? How does that constitute a great offence that it hurts you to see him unpunished?
Why arent you worried about only Lankan captain fined and marked for level 1 Slow over rate when both England and Lanka bowled slowly in the recent series? This is as reported by their own one-eyed media - it was so pathetic that their patrioitic media itself reported their slow over rate. Still, ICC only punished Lankan captain. Dhoni also got it recently.

So, if India bowls slow in one of these matches, Dhoni will be banned but Strauss will not be despite having bowled so slowly as to cause their own media call it.
Isnt this a bigger disparity in the ICC attitude that needs to be sorted out first?

Who Dilshan ??

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

The analogy doesn't work Plum. Again you're affixing *their* gaze to mine..

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

I don't care about Ponting & Warne getting away with murder, Dhoni's comments were disrespectful. If it were made by M.Clarke to Hariharan, this place would turn in to war zone..

in 2006, M.Clarke and co pushed then-BCCI president Pawar out of dias - appave yaarum onnum sollalala......Dhoni is a very thinking and sharp person, when he has said that, he would be invariably right......Daryl Harper, proved the kind of "cry baby" he has been in following days in media........

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

Sourav Ganguly and Nasser Hussain are having a go on air. While Hussain wonders how Ganguly got in to Lord's after his shirt waving incident, Ganguly retorts that he was offered honorary membership after the incident.

.............

From: SoftSword on 21st July 2011 04:45 PM [Full View]

burst wicket!! zaheer

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:45 PM [Full View]

Brilliant Zak. Cook gone!

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

Dada

yaaru kitta?

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

in 2006, M.Clarke and co pushed then-BCCI president Pawar out of dias - appave yaarum onnum sollalala......Dhoni is a very thinking and sharp person, when he has said that, he would be invariably right......Daryl Harper, proved the kind of "cry baby" he has been in following days in media........

It was Martyn & it was bashed in media.

Forget Harper, Are you happy about what dhoni said? It reeked of disrespect to Windies, more than anything..

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 04:49 PM [Full View]

Zak

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 04:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

It was Martyn & it was bashed in media.
Forget Harper, Are you happy about what dhoni said? It reeked of disrespect to Windies, more than anything..

No disrespect - Harper made a lot of mistakes ALL against Indians and Dhoni's comments were pointed towards them (Mistakes) and unnecessary dragging of the test which should of ended early. How is this disrespectful of the Windies?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 21st July 2011 04:52 PM [Full View]

very good bowling from zak here.Would have been even more happy if he had got strauss though.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 04:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

No disrespect - Harper made a lot of mistakes ALL against Indians and Dhoni's comments were pointed towards them (Mistakes) and unnecessary dragging of the test which should of ended early. How is this disrespectful of the Windies?

That these mistakes alone extended the match to the final day & they'd be relaxing in their hotel shows the kind of superiority complex & arrogance much unlike Dhoni..

From: SoftSword on 21st July 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

is there someone watching the match live?
pls update on how the bowling of zaheer and praveen looks?

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

That these mistakes alone extended the match to the final day & they'd be relaxing in their hotel shows the kind of superiority complex & arrogance much unlike Dhoni..

If a work product from a person who should deliver it to me is of sub-standard quality and because of which, had my time & effort had got wasted, naturally I would be unhappy and let him know the same. Nothing personal, just professional.

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

my view is that "gentlemanliness" in the game has to be preserved and mistake from anyone, whether its white man or brown man, should be punished equally...........i agree with Plum that white men have got away with many more blaring mistakes than small mistakes made by brown men.......thats mainly because they "talk well" during disciplinary hearings and when questioned by umpires on field for such behaviors.........ofcourse, Plum's racism angle cannot be ruled out too - otherwise, i dont see how even kapil sibal would have defended Mcgrath's spat with Sarwan.........

Asian players dont talk really well and do not present their case that well during disciplinary hearings or onfield umpires call - thats what ex-players say........BCCI and other Asian boards should train their players on communication skills and press for hearings in players' language as well...........but i think BCCI and other Asian Boards plus players are not taking it too seriously and i dont find them too disturbed by it........probably their view of cricket is totally different white men........they probably realise the futility in talking abt these things and rather concentrate on cricketing supremacy, business aspects, power etc..........namma idhukku tension aaguradhu unneccessary.,.....

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:09 PM [Full View]

But this isn't a soap factory, it's a Sport. Even if you're going to make a grunted statement, you put it in a dignified manner appropriate to opponent & umpire. That this isn't a statement of 'grovel' magnitude shouldn't even matter. Anyways, we're going in circles. Nothing's going to stop us from turning into obnoxious arrogant bullies that we despised being subjugated to. That hypocrisy will reveal itself (& in full view) in coming years.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

Trott in the crease. :yawn:

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

"Ishant is struggling to put together 6 decent balls in an over,"

Get it sorted man..

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 21st July 2011 05:18 PM [Full View]

hope ishanth doesn't undo the efforts of zaheer and praveen

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 21st July 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

Woaoh!! Bajji almost got one.....hope he doesn't blame dravid if he goes wicketless in the end...

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

Dravid drops Trott.

....Off Harby's bowling. Good one Dravid

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 05:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

But this isn't a soap factory, it's a Sport. Even if you're going to make a grunted statement, you put it in a dignified manner appropriate to opponent & umpire. That this isn't a statement of 'grovel' magnitude shouldn't even matter. Anyways, we're going in circles. Nothing's going to stop us from turning into obnoxious arrogant bullies that we despised being subjugated to. That hypocrisy will reveal itself (& in full view) in coming years.

im sure Dhoni would have said even if the opponents were SA - where is the question of disrespect to windies in this...............i think it was a good sarcastic statement at a man who tormented them for so many years and the best thing abt the statement was Harper could not even book it under any disciplinary clause of ICC........what offence can it be called as?? "player complaining abt unable to leave to hotel early?"

ofcourse Harper, ICC and western media were not "man" enough to stomach that statement

.......ofcourse cricket needs to be played with utmost spirit but we are not playing with 22 humanoids and there should be a maturity to take in some comments out of the ordinary and punish things that go out of line - irrespective of the color of the person uttering it.....Dhoni's statement was well within the line....

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:31 PM [Full View]

Man Enough/ Man Up - typically British way of papering over out-of-line comments / behavior. Even women play sports, you know?

That aside, I still maintain it was out of line as was our overall behavior in the series. But we've spoken enough about it that we might as well watch Misbah-Trott in a partnership.

We'll end it there.

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 05:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Man Enough/ Man Up - typically British way of papering over out-of-line comments / behavior. Even women play sports, you know?

That aside, I still maintain it was out of line as was our overall behavior in the series. But we've spoken enough about it that we might as well watch Misbah-Trott in a partnership.

We'll end it there.

yes, british media=india cricket fans, comments/ruckus made by aussie/english players=dhoni's comment and murder/rape=signal jumping(if not punished today)....they all need to be dealt with same severity, i agree.........let me send out the Misbah, Trott DVDs to ur house now, whats the address?

btw, man, woman statement - i meant man as in adult, not anything to do with sexism there

........

From: raghavendran on 21st July 2011 05:47 PM [Full View]

i remember an incident in the 2003/04 series down under where at the end of the series the captains were asked to give a rating to the umpires on how the umpiring was and Ganguly gave a big 0 to S.Bucknor.
Harper deserved what he got from Dhoni..Asian teams's biggest nightmare Mr.D.Hair escape ayitaru..man he was one big fat criminal..remember him giving an LBW decision against Tendulkar for ducking for a short pitch ball of Mcgrath..it was close but giving it out was a joke..and the way he tortured the Srilankans...

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

is there someone watching the match live?
pls update on how the bowling of zaheer and praveen looks?

it looks Zaheer is bowling left hand fast medium and Praveen is bowling right arm medium pace......

From: raghavendran on 21st July 2011 05:52 PM [Full View]

and Jonathan Trott leaves the ball

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 05:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

yes, british media=india cricket fans, comments/ruckus made by aussie/english players=dhoni's comment and murder/rape=signal jumping(if not punished today)....they all need to be dealt with same severity, i agree.........let me send out the Misbah, Trott DVDs to ur house now, whats the address?

btw, man, woman statement - i meant man as in adult, not anything to do with sexism there

........

Why bring in a rape case at all when traffic jumping is being dealt with? It all begins with traffic jumping & petty pick pocketing, you know?

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 05:59 PM [Full View]

Asian players dont talk really well and do not present their case that well during disciplinary hearings or onfield umpires call

Agree - it is not just racism. It is also the ability to spin words and talk glibly. But in the case of Stuart Broad, it is clear nepotism, and possibly "protection of the anglo saxon offender because punish paNNA edhirkatchikAran enna solluvAn" angle.

idhula Chris Broad Ricky Ponting personal space (bhagwan ke liye mujhe chod de incident ot Mohd Amir) adhu idhunnu vakkAlathu vAnguvAn.

As for India morphing into ugly Australia, it is not that bad yet although it could become especially when Gambhir(Waugh)/Kohli(Ponting) take over. But Dhoni is like Mark Taylor - unimpeachable.

vada indhiyarnAlE ungraceful behaviour dhAnE -

(Thats the racist in me speaking

)

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 06:03 PM [Full View]

Traffic jumpers mostly dont morph into killers/rapists. Mostly these are decent middle class folk otherwise.

Killers/Rapists if left alone are very dangerous to the society. We need to voice against these people and get them punished. This is very important for the society's health.
Traffic Jumpers need to be addressed to but not out of proportion - deal with it but make a bigger noise about the rapists/killers. If you are not willing to do the latter, but make a big fuss about the former, then your priorities are mangled

From: raghavendran on 21st July 2011 06:05 PM [Full View]

http://i55.tinypic.com/znuekm.jpg

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:06 PM [Full View]

Plum,
Neenga mattum ippadi speculate pannalam. Naanga panna, ennamo Michael Holding Sreesanth beamer analysis madhiri paakureenga..

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 06:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Why bring in a rape case at all when traffic jumping is being dealt with? It all begins with traffic jumping & petty pick pocketing, you know?

true - i believe in Gandhian principle "eye for eye turns whole world blind".........we cant do mistakes and turn blind eye on them just bcos white men did it.......

why i brought it was, i meant we will never reach that stage.........our value system is completely different and lets not worry abt such small things......

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Traffic jumpers mostly dont morph into killers/rapists. Mostly these are decent middle class folk otherwise.

Killers/Rapists if left alone are very dangerous to the society. We need to voice against these people and get them punished. This is very important for the society's health.
Traffic Jumpers need to be addressed to but not out of proportion - deal with it but make a bigger noise about the rapists/killers. If you are not willing to do the latter, but make a big fuss about the former, then your priorities are mangled

Traffic jumpers could kill people too. I have seen those in real life..

Eppadi namba standard issue defense.. :P

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 06:10 PM [Full View]

i still believe even N.Indians have a decent value system that wont let them become Australia/England any day......

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:11 PM [Full View]

Maddy,
Dhoni's is small. But when you have Kohli, Bhajji, Sreeshanth, munaf, mishra in your side, it's hardly going to improve in future..

From: SoftSword on 21st July 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Maddy,
Dhoni's is small. But when you have Kohli, Bhajji, Sreeshanth, munaf, mishra in your side, it's hardly going to improve in future..

watttt?????

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 06:22 PM [Full View]

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

By all means, enforce traffic rules but do pay attention to enforcing the IPC laws. That is not happening in ICC right now? veLLakAran sonandhu dhAn sattam. BCCI does have its way in money aspects but I am not too worried about whether BCCI is making money or ECB does. Cricketing aspects - Anglo Saxon still rules

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 06:24 PM [Full View]

Which is also due to BCCI's lackadaiscal attitude to Cricketing matters

From: ajithfederer on 21st July 2011 06:26 PM [Full View]

C'mon Zakkkkkyyyy

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:27 PM [Full View]

Zak gets Strauss

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 21st July 2011 06:29 PM [Full View]

got him!!! Clever bowling here.......zak is the best

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 06:39 PM [Full View]

Trott is the best.
No, KP is the best.
Heck no, Bell is the best
Aw, no, Morgan is the best
Oh my God, Swann is the best
Oops, Broad is the best

And then Anderson, Tremlett, Swann, Broad bowl at India. You have had it guys - gloat while you can - because the last laugh is going to be English

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

What would we do without Zak!

From: ajithfederer on 21st July 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

Ishanth make the batsmen play ur deliveries.

From: MADDY on 21st July 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

English have batted very well, one must say, given the heavy conditions......and Indian bowling hasnt been as sharp as the srilankan, Australian attacks which have had English in spot of bother under similar conditions in recent past.....ominous signs, i should say.....

From: ajithfederer on 21st July 2011 07:16 PM [Full View]

Ganguly on commie says he is a MU fan.

From: Sourav on 21st July 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

38.2
Kumar to Pietersen, no run, this is utterly stupendous bowling. He's bowling too well to pick up a wicket here. KP has seen a ghost. Or so, he thinks. Don't think he's seen it at all. Praveen darts this in, full on middle and off and then gets it to do a Shane Warne and go away. KP is three paces down and groping at thin air. Completely fooled.

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 07:41 PM [Full View]

From: sathya_1979 on 21st July 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

Zak Injured

From: SoftSword on 21st July 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

is that an injury?
cricinfo comments say its a hamstring....

From: villan007 on 21st July 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Ganguly on commie says he is a MU fan.

not surprising... bullying umpires et all :P

From: Plum on 21st July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Zak injured -

Ini asingapaduvAn indiakAran

From: VinodKumar's on 21st July 2011 08:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Zak injured -

Ini asingapaduvAn indiakAran

Ithu yethuku sollirunthalum "Unmai" ...

From: venkkiram on 21st July 2011 08:09 PM [Full View]

Trott

From: venkkiram on 21st July 2011 08:15 PM [Full View]

CricInfo

Zaheer Khan cramping inside the dressing room, according to the team manager.

ஜாகிர் இதுவரை சுமந்த பாரத்தை இனி பஜ்ஜி சுமக்கப் போகிறார்!

From: VinodKumar's on 21st July 2011 08:15 PM [Full View]

Praveen warned once for running on the pitch

...

From: VinodKumar's on 21st July 2011 08:23 PM [Full View]

Baed light stopped play ... Break mudinju Zaheer vantha super ah irrukum.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 21st July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Mazhi Varuthu Mazhai varuthu kudai kondu vaa !

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 11:29 PM [Full View]

End of day's play.

Just saw the highlights. Sloppy missed catch from Trot off Zak's bowling. A rare piece of misjudgment from Dhoni.

From: kid-glove on 21st July 2011 11:34 PM [Full View]

From twitter: Manager confirms Zaheer has hamstring problem

Bye bye to this series

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 03:36 AM [Full View]

We are screwed if we lose Zaheer for the rest of the series. . Dhoni must be livid with himself on leaving Trott's catch. We can only pray for rain for this match to end in a draw.

From: raghavendran on 22nd July 2011 08:15 AM [Full View]

now definitely they will score more than 400..tough to comeback

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 08:46 AM [Full View]

பஜ்ஜி இருக்க பயமேன்!

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd July 2011 09:11 AM [Full View]

Venkki,

What's your prediction about Bhajji's performance? How many wickets will he take? Ivvalavu confident-a solreengale adhanaala kekkaren

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 09:21 AM [Full View]

I predict Bajji wud take 6 to 8 wickets in both the innings. let us see.

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd July 2011 09:29 AM [Full View]

Ok, lets see

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 10:35 AM [Full View]

"Zaheer Khan is being looked after by a medical team. It was a strain on the hamstring and he is undergoing investigation," Anirudha Chaudhary, the Indian team manager, said after the first day's play

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 10:39 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Ishanth make the batsmen play ur deliveries.

கப்பிதனமா போட்டாங்க நேத்து...

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 10:41 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

I predict Bajji wud take 6 to 8 wickets in both the innings. let us see.

யாரு? பஜ்ஜி 6-8 wickets? அதுக்குள்ளே இங்கிலாந்து 600 ரன் அடிச்சுடும்...

From: Plum on 22nd July 2011 10:49 AM [Full View]

Dhoni in the long room:
"ChokkA(ZaheerkhA). avan vara mAttAn. avan varavE mAttAn. mandapathula swing paNNinavana ellAm nambi arasavaikku pOnEnE embudhhiya...oNNA reNdA aayiram poRkAsu pOchE

"

Hamstring strain - 4-6 weeks out.

Dhoni's Series winning record

Maddy, ippO vAnga pEsalAm

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd July 2011 11:01 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

யாரு? பஜ்ஜி 6-8 wickets? அதுக்குள்ளே இங்கிலாந்து 600 ரன் அடிச்சுடும்...

6-8 wickets in both innings combined. Quite possible

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 11:05 AM [Full View]

he says 6-8 in each innings.

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 11:15 AM [Full View]

For all his skills and performances I have only one grouse against Zaheer which is his weight which may aggravate injuries. He is fat for a bowler. He should really trim down his flab in this year if he intends to play another 3-4 seasons. BCCI idhai ellam eppadi ya kottai vuduringa?. Look at how CSA is using Steyn.

From: Plum on 22nd July 2011 11:28 AM [Full View]

First inns - Bhajji will accumulate blows like MGR
Then a century with the bat.
Then second inns a knockout punch on England

Yes, I just woke up from a dream(nightmare)

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 11:28 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/524015.html

Some rare pics in here on the history of Eng Ind Test matches.

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 11:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

he says 6-8 in each innings.

நானும் அப்படித்தான் புரிஞ்சிகிட்டேன்...

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd July 2011 12:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

he says 6-8 in each innings.

Chancey illa

That's almost equal to his best bowling figures.

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 01:41 PM [Full View]

Zak's run up & that final jump is too dramatic. Puts a strain on the langing leg. The reason why he gets these niggling injuries.

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 03:13 PM [Full View]

Dravid got the gloves. News is that Dhoni could bowl today. What a man!

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 03:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Dravid got the gloves. News is that Dhoni could bowl today. What a man!

என்ன்னாது .. தோனி பௌலிங் :shocking:

but this may backfire as it's been a very long time Dravid donned the gloves.. ball is swinging a lot.. I don't expect much from Dravid..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 03:21 PM [Full View]

Sunny today in London with a bit of breeze, it should assist in swinging of the ball!

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 03:30 PM [Full View]

makkalae.... thalaraadheenga...
thookkurom... oru player'a nambi naama no.1 team aagalanu prove panrom...

whenever zaheer is not around, ishanth has been responsible...

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

paramaa innakkum mazhai undu... wait and watch...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

paramaa innakkum mazhai undu... wait and watch...

yes, it should come around 6pm, so not much of play will be lost!

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 03:40 PM [Full View]

Inikku Trott-Oda century-ya paarkaNumaa?

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 03:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Inikku Trott-Oda century-ya paarkaNumaa?

chance'e illa...

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 03:48 PM [Full View]

Nasser Hussain makes a valid point when he says that the amount of cricket that India play is the reason for so many injuries to their pacemen. He says that England take care of the pacers and you never see them playing too much county cricket. Hussain feels that you rarely see an Anderson or a Tremlett not ready for a test match.

vendha puNNil vElai paaichings

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 03:49 PM [Full View]

He has a point. These are the times you feel we could do without IPL.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

chance'e illa...

No he has a good chance!

BTW, England team should be called "World IX" , rather than England

Trott - South African
Fietersen - South African
Morgan - Irish

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

Trott has a batting average of 64!

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 04:24 PM [Full View]

trott outtu....

sonnomla....

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 04:39 PM [Full View]

Ippo KP-kku soonyam vekkalaam.

Inikku KP century-ya paakaNumaa

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 04:41 PM [Full View]

next bell'ku bell adikkirom..

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 05:18 PM [Full View]

Bhajji leaking runs

500-kkuLLa niruthikungappa, No-1 team-ai romba asinga paduthaadheenga!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Ippo KP-kku soonyam vekkalaam.

Inikku KP century-ya paakaNumaa

Maami

I know your tactics, ippadi pulambinal Fietersen out agiduvan nu thaanE

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 05:44 PM [Full View]

Pietersen dominates depleted India

Have to say it was England's session, 90 runs for the loss of Trott, which also came against the run of play. The sun is shining, but India's prospects do not look as bright, and their three-man attack will hope to limit the damage a rampaging Pietersen and an unruffled Bell will hope to inflict on them post lunch

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 22nd July 2011 06:11 PM [Full View]

Dravid keeping.......gimme a break......

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 06:11 PM [Full View]

Dhoni Bowling!

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

Almosttttttttttttttttttt

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 06:13 PM [Full View]

Can he be our Steve Waugh? Crisis Man? Man with Golden Arm?

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 06:14 PM [Full View]

He is swinging the ball (cricket) in both ways!

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

He is swinging the ball (cricket) in both ways!

adangonniya.. Dhoni dejenta poduvaapla.. wicket eduth nalla irukkum..

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 22nd July 2011 06:22 PM [Full View]

almost got him again!!!!

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 06:36 PM [Full View]

Bhajji vElaikku aagala, let's try Raina and Sachin

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd July 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

adangonniya.. Dhoni dejenta poduvaapla..

Idhukku Sathyavoda comment'eh better.

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 06:50 PM [Full View]

time for a wicket!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

Fietersen to score a "century" after 3 years

moonu varushama enna senjukitu irunthaaru ?

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 07:18 PM [Full View]

Kevin Pietersen

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 07:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Idhukku Sathyavoda comment'eh better.

Bad phlow!

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

Praveen Kumar

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

Whatta Swing Bowling!

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar fuming over ishanth's bowling on star cricket.

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Gavaskar fuming over ishanth's bowling on star cricket.

Rightly so, poor poor line

From: Plum on 22nd July 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Scorpio, a tip. Soonyam vekka pOrEnnu SuN TV announcer kaNAkkA alarittu soonyam vekka koodadhu. Please follow the correct technique

Useless DRS namakku soonyam dhaan vekkum. Marubadiyum proven today. Cricketing Gods are anglo-saxon. Cook knows them personally - nammaLAla oNNum kizhikka mudiyAdhu. Indha series-ai concede paNNittu plane pudichu vandhudaradhu better.

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 07:53 PM [Full View]

Question: Why did Morgan walk away in such a hurry, without checking? Answer: No surprise, he is after all Quick Gun Morgan.

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

Wish Dhoni get at least a wicket

From: scorpio on 22nd July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

Plum- ivLo nEram enga pOneenga unga kadamaiya seyyaama?

Wonder what Dhoni is thinking. Zak-kku badhil thaanE bowling pOttu. If KP is vulnerable against Yuvi, why not bring in Raina?

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 07:59 PM [Full View]

Scorpio , Raina is not a left arm spinner.

From: villan007 on 22nd July 2011 07:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Wish Dhoni get at least a wicket

oru wicket ndrathu avlo cheap-a poircha?

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

ada Tremlett wicket kooda va avalo worth :P

England tail torture vera thaanga mudiyaathu

... Swann , Broad , Anderson ... ellorum known for kattai potufying ...

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

Dhoni try tendulkar for a little while if possible.

From: 19thmay on 22nd July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

India-naale indha Chandrapaul, Pietersen ellam sattaya madakkitu vandhuduvaainga...

Zak injured?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

Get Ready folks, Rain is on the way!

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Jesus, No wonder bcci opposes udrs. Indians suck at reviewing them

.

From: 19thmay on 22nd July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

India wasted their first review

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

Zak is at the grounds. He's exercising on the bike at the Lord's gym. Looks like he is running too.

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

Dhoni'ya kurai solla mudiyathu.. he was behind the stumps.. only bhajji could have predicted correctly...

Praveen

Ishant - back to his usual form... oru variation'um illa.. athum dupaakoor line / length.. peterson assaulta aaduran ivan overa....

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

will they declare today itself and allow us to start our first innings? if such things happen, we can look for a result in LORD'S.

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

இப்போ தான் உருப்படியா ஒரு பந்து போட்டிருக்கான் இஷாந்த்

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

No venki I want to see bhajji taking 6 wickets.

Originally Posted by venkkiram

will they declare today itself and allow us to start our first innings? if such things happen, we can look for a result in LORD'S.

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

No venki I want to see bhajji taking 6 wickets.

இன்னும் மூணு நாள் இருக்குங்க. கொஞ்சம் பொறுங்க. பஜ்ஜி கலக்குவார்

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

Bhajji maavudhaan kalakkuvAr

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

Where is Plum?

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

sappai matter'kellaam plum edhukku, i ll take pieterson wicket now...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

It looks like Ingi Laanthu will "only" declare after Fietersen's 200 and Prior's 100

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 09:24 PM [Full View]

I am getting an Ashes 2010/11 feeling

From: raajarasigan on 22nd July 2011 09:44 PM [Full View]

I think they are planning for an innings win...

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

I think they are planning for an innings win...

Nope, India is planning for their innings win

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Swann will show Bhajji how to do it, I mean offspin bowling and wicket taking!

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

31 - 3 - 0 - 127 - 4.09 - India's best spinner

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

31 - 3 - 0 - 127 - 4.09 - India's best spinner

127 runs! Time for amputation of the arm

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Kummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrr

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

get them for 450, we can, we will

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 09:52 PM [Full View]

Mottai Prior out ...

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

5 fer praveen

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

Gurly out!

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

It's nice to hear Wasim akram always calling sunny g as sunny bhai.

From: VinodKumar's on 22nd July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Kumaru 5 wickets

* infinity ....

From: SoftSword on 22nd July 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

dei bajji... avanta oru glass vaangi kudi....

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

That was a good inswinger for a hatrick ball. If only this guy had Ishanth's pace.

From: satissh_r on 22nd July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

PK

I'm so very happy for him...

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

Praveen

Harbhajja

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Snacks to Swan!

From: satissh_r on 22nd July 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Bishen Singh Bedi often says V Sehwag is the best off spinner in the Indian team. I think I agree

From: Plum on 22nd July 2011 10:10 PM [Full View]

All ye bhajji haters, apologise

The man will show who he is in this series

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 22nd July 2011 10:12 PM [Full View]

Flau anneh

U must be happy with England 's position now ?

From: Plum on 22nd July 2011 10:13 PM [Full View]

Aavin Peter Son

Indian batsmen -choosi nErchukOndi how to bat. You'll probably have two chances to bat in this test. Atleast in one innings try to match pietersen's score collectively.

That is why England is the best team.
If Cook and Trott don't get you Kevin will.

From: sathya_1979 on 22nd July 2011 10:18 PM [Full View]

pOdaam.......

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

Pietersen in full form!

From: villan007 on 22nd July 2011 10:27 PM [Full View]

nalla kazhuvi kazhuvi oothuranunga

From: vanchi on 22nd July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

bhajji, neeye poyi paduthkarathy nallathu. vennai

ivlo consistent non-performer entha teamlayum irukka mattan

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

GP Swann b Raina 24 (28b 3x4 0x6) SR: 85.71

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 10:42 PM [Full View]

Raina is a better bowler than Harbhajan..

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

Kevin Pietersen

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 10:57 PM [Full View]

கௌதமா - முகுந்தா வருக வருக. அடித்தளம் பலமாக அமையுங்கள்.

From: venkkiram on 22nd July 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...200/135233.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 11:32 PM [Full View]

Mukud looked out in that appeal. But it seems a noball???.

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 11:36 PM [Full View]

No, it was a legal delivery. It was clipping the bails. Can't be given out.

The next ball was no-ball & it looked on leg stumps.

From: kid-glove on 22nd July 2011 11:37 PM [Full View]

It was pitched outside the leg too, from Twitter feed.

From: ajithfederer on 22nd July 2011 11:55 PM [Full View]

It would not be an overstatement to say Zaheer is currently the most complete seam bowler in the world. Dale Steyn might be on top of the ICC's Test bowling rankings but he relies on uncompromising pace and away movement to trap his victims. Zaheer's skills are more varied: he can swing the new ball both ways, also cut the old ball both ways, and then cup the ball when it is roughed up on one side to reverse swing it. He does all that while using the crease and bowling from both over and around the wicket. The batsman never knows what Zaheer is thinking.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/page2/co...ry/524212.html

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 12:46 AM [Full View]

NEW DELHI: Mahendra Singh Dhoni's decision to bowl his seam-up stuff during the second day of the Lord's Test on Friday came under severe criticism from former India captain Kapil Dev, who feels that the current skipper made the mockery of Test cricket.

"Dhoni has made mockery of Test cricket by bowling (himself). This is not acceptable that on the second day of the Test match, you can't do this," Kapil was quoted as saying.

Kapil who never minces words was also scathing about Zaheer Khan suffering from hamstring injury.

"Zaheer is responsible for this. He has put the team in trouble. He should have known his fitness and tested his fitness levels before returning to Test cricket," he fumed.

"It's really tough to bowl 20 overs a day in Test cricket. Zaheer is responsible for this. He has killed the possibility of India winning this Test match," he added.

Zaheer suffered a hamstring strain in his right thigh on the first day of the Lord's Test.

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 12:47 AM [Full View]

Paavu baaji at his best irresponsible talk yet again.

.

From: VinodKumar's on 23rd July 2011 01:06 AM [Full View]

ithuvae mockery na Neenga 432nd wicket kaaga remba naala summavae potukitu irunthingalae athuku peru double mockery triple mockeryngna. Optionae illama oruthan vanthu bolwing potta mokka maari pesikitu.

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 02:02 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Kapil who never minces words was also scathing about Zaheer Khan suffering from hamstring injury.

"Zaheer is responsible for this. He has put the team in trouble. He should have known his fitness and tested his fitness levels before returning to Test cricket," he fumed.

"It's really tough to bowl 20 overs a day in Test cricket. Zaheer is responsible for this. He has killed the possibility of India winning this Test match," he added.

Zaheer suffered a hamstring strain in his right thigh on the first day of the Lord's Test.

Well said. Zakeer bowled only 13.3 overs on first day of this match. That too he started bowling continuously 7 overs - Break - 4 overs again - Break - 2.3 overs. End. What kind of Fitness procedures we have for Bowlers? As per Wiki, we have following people as Coaching staff. No idea what are they performing.

* Head coach: Duncan Fletcher
* Mental conditioning coach: Vacant
* Fitness trainer: Ramji Srinivasan
* Physiotherapist: Nitin Patel
* Masseur: Ramesh Mane
* Performance analyst: C.K.M. Dhananjai
* Bowling consultant: Eric Simons

From: Plum on 23rd July 2011 09:43 AM [Full View]

Today's predictions:
asingapaduvAn abhinav Mukund
kavizhkapaduvaan kavudham kambhir
thiNaRippOvAr thiraavid
sAikkapaduvAr Sachin
veezhndu pOvAr VVS
suruttapaduvAn suresh raina
thOtrupOvAr thoni

Indha nAL diaryla kuRichukOnga - the beginning of the end of India's #1 reign and the rise of the all time greatest English champions

Step aside pretenders, the real supermen are here

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

Mukund

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

எப்படா முகுந்தர் அரை சதம் அடிப்பார்னு காத்துக்கிடந்தேன் இங்கே பதிவு செய்து பாராட்ட. கடைசியில கவுத்திட்டாரே! எனிவே, அடித்த 49 ரன்களும் அணியின் அடித்தளத்திற்கு வித்திட்டவை. வாழ்த்துக்கள் முகுந்த். அடுத்த இன்னிங்ஸில் இதே செயல்பாடு தொடரட்டும்.

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

Cricinfo

Dravid and Tendulkar. At Lord's. This is what cricket is all about, folks.

From: satissh_r on 23rd July 2011 05:07 PM [Full View]

Well played A Mukund

The biggest challenge in his life yet and I think he passed the test comfortably, only grouse is he couldn't get to his well deserved 50.

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 05:19 PM [Full View]

Broad bowling beautifully.

From: MADDY on 23rd July 2011 06:09 PM [Full View]

cricinfo-va sappals-aala adikkanum........they keep irritating indian fans

tremlett, broad, anderson all bowling beautifully and Swann yet to come

........and peterson's feasting on poor indian attack

they are the best test team in the world but certainly India are going to prove me wrong

Mukund - tamilan-nkku milestone-e venava?? yenda ippadi

From: Kalyasi on 23rd July 2011 06:27 PM [Full View]

Hi Makkale... ellarum epdi irukeenga? Romba naal aachu intha pakkam vanthu... But thalaivar oda 100th 100 pothum kooda varama irukka mudiyuma.... athaan vanten

From: MADDY on 23rd July 2011 06:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

Hi Makkale... ellarum epdi irukeenga? Romba naal aachu intha pakkam vanthu... But thalaivar oda 100th 100 pothum kooda varama irukka mudiyuma.... athaan vanten

irunga, Bharat Ratna time-kkum vandhirukeenga

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 23rd July 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

Three beautiful strokes from dravid.......

From: kid-glove on 23rd July 2011 06:48 PM [Full View]

That's the highest Mukund is going to get in this series. So first & last

#TypeLikePlum

From: Dinesh84 on 23rd July 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

it was in the air

From: Dinesh84 on 23rd July 2011 06:53 PM [Full View]

ball is keeping low..

From: MADDY on 23rd July 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

Dravid cutting Swann to fence in Lord's - idhu crickettu

better than watching a SL T20 game

From: MADDY on 23rd July 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

seri sachin outtu, 116 to save follow-on is the target

From: Dinesh84 on 23rd July 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

ivanellam wicket edukuraan..

From: Kalyasi on 23rd July 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

chai... epdi broad payyan mattum nalla podaraaan

From: kid-glove on 23rd July 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

Arsenal friendly match on Arsenal Iplayer affects India vs England stream #SathyaSOdhanai

And Sachin gone too.

Broad

Nalla pOduraan..

From: littlemaster1982 on 23rd July 2011 07:04 PM [Full View]

Poyum poyum Broad ball-la

From: Plum on 23rd July 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

Stuartpuram on fire

England is the best test team in the world.
They are winning this series...how many teams can you confidently predict that on the second day of the series - maybe Waugh and Ponting's Aussies, Lloyd's Windies. Pretender Sachin - real legend Pietersen is here

Real Legend Cook, Real Legend Strauss, Real Legends Bell, Trott and Morgan will also hurt you.
RL Prior has already feasted, and the bowling lineup is the best ever. England rules the world. Brownie natives - grovel before the Queen

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

lax/dravid both dropped in same over. broad bowling too good.

From: Plum on 23rd July 2011 07:15 PM [Full View]

Because Swann is bowling well, people will diss Bhajji now but they have to realise that Swann has it easy against an ordinary batting lineup while Bhajji has to bowl to the best Top 7 ever. They are not in England on a holiday, I mean, the English batsmen

From: HonestRaj on 23rd July 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Stuartpuram on fire

England is the best test team in the world.
They are winning this series...how many teams can you confidently predict that on the second day of the series - maybe Waugh and Ponting's Aussies, Lloyd's Windies. Pretender Sachin - real legend Pietersen is here

Real Legend Cook, Real Legend Strauss, Real Legends Bell, Trott and Morgan will also hurt you.
RL Prior has already feasted, and the bowling lineup is the best ever. England rules the world. Brownie natives - grovel before the Queen

da'riyal Legend Plum on a roll

From: Kalyasi on 23rd July 2011 07:47 PM [Full View]

Lechumana

From: villan007 on 23rd July 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

HD service aarambichalum aarambichanunga promos tholla thaangala

From: MADDY on 23rd July 2011 08:33 PM [Full View]

wat drift Swann is getting, absolutely magical......Dhoni, kappithanama yeri varaama irundha seri, he is not the typical off-spinner sir

England clearly are looking the better side with Broad bowling beautifully........it is going to get tougher and tougher for Dhoni's team from now on.......they need to save the series and no.1 ranking, and that too in style, illaina "all england", cricinfo madhiri echhakala sites, bloggers,ex-cricketers will start questioning alogirthim, logic, life cycle, testing of ICC test ranking system........hmmm, summa varuvaala sukumari

, DHoni and co. have to take it

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

I have to say like Ganguly's commie in star cricket.

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 10:25 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...200/135265.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

Dravid-ian

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 10:36 PM [Full View]

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

லார்ட்ஸ் பெற்றெடுத்த புதல்வனே! தொடரட்டும் உனது நிபந்தனையற்ற அர்ப்பணிப்பு !

From: VinodKumar's on 23rd July 2011 10:38 PM [Full View]

Rahul

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 10:39 PM [Full View]

-deleted- Thomas Ranting move over ye punk. Dravid is the 2nd highest run getter in Tests now

From: ajithfederer on 23rd July 2011 10:43 PM [Full View]

From cricinfo
Kaushik: "Sachin, Dravid and Laxman have collectively made 100 100's in Test Cricket now!!!"

Has any middle order done this?/. Amazing achievement

From: kid-glove on 23rd July 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

....Rahul

From: venkkiram on 23rd July 2011 11:06 PM [Full View]

Wished Dravid takes most of the balls and not exposing the tail till end of today.. it didn't happen.

From: Plum on 23rd July 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

Pricky is playing against Lanka soon. Move over Shahul Darad Ravid, Pricky will overtake you soon

From: ajithfederer on 24th July 2011 06:48 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...200/135251.jpg

From: Sourav on 24th July 2011 06:55 AM [Full View]

Dravid & PK!

From: jinju on 24th July 2011 07:45 AM [Full View]

my favorite cricketer

, but it's time he moved on from the slips, at least for the spinners...the drops r becoming a norm now with Dravid!

From: raghavendran on 24th July 2011 09:03 AM [Full View]

as usual bad start to a series by India,Nasser hussain said "if India are the no.1 side they have to prove it today"..sodhapals...Dravid---last man standing..

pity him..if he had played for Australia or England....he would have been hailed as the one in my siggy..unfortunately..he is being covered by a genius called Tendulkar..but he deserves equal praise as SRT..tough conditions,good bowling attack...varuvar Dravid

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 09:31 AM [Full View]

Why did I sleep early?

Dravid

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 09:37 AM [Full View]

Eng will bat till tea and declare with a lead of around 425
India End of Day - 75-85 for 1 wicket down
Tomorrow till Tea - Max 3-4 wickets down
Match Draw

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 10:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Eng will bat till tea and declare with a lead of around 425
India End of Day - 75-85 for 1 wicket down
Tomorrow till Tea - Max 3-4 wickets down
Match Draw

hopefully this happens.....would dearly like to have another dravid hundred in the second innings.....was a pleasure watching him play yesterday......

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

Praveen strikes. Cook gone.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Harby gets a wicket. Finally..

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 04:56 PM [Full View]

Ishant

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

So much for KP the real legend. Very lucky on 1st day.

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

This is fight-back

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Ishant Rasa, indha line and length apdiyE maintain paNNuppA!

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 05:03 PM [Full View]

Normally umpires check and agree with Hawk-eye, ippOlaam Hawk-eye consults umpires

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Ishant

you beauty! As Boycott would say - pitch it up, pitch it up!

From: sathya_1979 on 24th July 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=281364

idhu enna?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

wow what a spell from ishanth.........gives me some hope here

From: satissh_r on 24th July 2011 06:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=281364

idhu enna?

He was not in the field before lunch. Not sure at which number he'll bat now

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

இரண்டாவது இன்னிங்ஸில் இஷாந்தின் அபாரமான பந்து வீச்சு, இங்கிலாந்தின் பேட்டிங் சொதப்பல் இரண்டுமே டெஸ்ட் முடிவை பாதிக்காது என்றே தோன்றுகிறது. கையில் இருக்கும் ஐந்து விக்கட்டுகளில் ஐம்பது அறுபது ரன்களை தாண்டினாலும், நமக்கு இலக்கு 350+. டிராவிட்-க்கு இந்த முறை சரியான கூட்டணி அமைந்தால், டிரா செய்ய வாய்ப்பிருக்கிறது. ஆபத்பாண்டவா லட்சுமணா.. உன் சேவை இப்போது தேவை.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

IShant Courtney Walsh Sharma

:P

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 07:05 PM [Full View]

CricInfo நேரடி விவரணை செய்பவர்களுக்கு இஷாந்தின் அபார பந்து வீச்சு நவத்துவாரங்களிலும் புகையை வரவழைத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது. "வாழ்க்கை ஒரு வட்டம் டா.. சும்மா அதிருதுல்ல" டெஸ்டை இந்தியா ஜெயித்து விட்டால் அதகளம் தான்.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 07:10 PM [Full View]

this has been a brilliant comeback from india......this basically ensures a result going into the final day......jeez!!! test cricket is the best.......Ishanth

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 07:16 PM [Full View]

Hussain in elegiac mode already.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 07:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Hussain in elegiac mode already.

i heard he gets mad if someone reminds him of the lords final and the test match at leeds......

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 07:29 PM [Full View]

Hey Sachin driven back to stadium..

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Good chance. Nice Short ball. Not a controlled shot by Broad. ?In the air. But lands safely.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Broad is in control now. 4 runs. But that short ball didn't bounce.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 07:42 PM [Full View]

sachin's back and he doesn't look that good.....hopefully he will get better before his chance in the second innings

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 08:02 PM [Full View]

அகலர் கூட சிறப்பா பேட் செய்ய ஆரம்பித்து விட்டாரே! அதுவும் பயன்படக் கூடிய வகையில் இரண்டாவது இன்னிங்ஸில்.. எந்தவித இக்கட்டான நிலையையும் ஜீரணித்து திறம்பட விளையாடும் இங்கிலாந்தை பாராட்டவே வேண்டும்.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

Now Botham feels Prior is the best wicketkeeping batsman in the world today.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 08:30 PM [Full View]

Nice segment 'Father and son' on Arnie & Ryan Sidebum. Arnie was a footballer too. Rep. Man Utd. Selected among top 50 worst ever by Times.

From: Plum on 24th July 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

Isn't he? Unlike your scratching shame of a wicketkeeper-batsman, he averages 44 abd crucial match-winning knocks in both innings of this test? Who is better than him? Dhoni is good enough for match winning knocks only in OdIs. Definitely not in tests. Esp against England. Esp in England. Esp in Lord's. Esp in 2011 in Lord's against England for India. Bet?

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 08:33 PM [Full View]

I was thinking of Sanga in particular. Not Dhoni.

From: Plum on 24th July 2011 08:38 PM [Full View]

Sanga doesn't keep in tests these days. His average as a keeper is 38.something. So Prior rules

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

Prior's wicketkeeping has been pathetic in the past. And his average in ODI's is

I'd still take Sanga eyes closed. Dhoni close second.

Now Nick Knight makes a sneering comment about giving Sachin a chair on the field.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

Looks like sachin may not able to bat lower than no. 7 in the second innings......on another note its been excellent cricket from the english atm

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Broad is now regarded as an all-rounder in league of Kapil Dev, Botham, among others..

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 24th July 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Broad is now regarded as an all-rounder in league of Kapil Dev, Botham, among others..

hope they dont induct him into the recently released all time eleven

From: Plum on 24th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Prior - best wicketkeeper in the world now
Broad - best all rounder in the world now
Anderson - best fastbowler (ditto as above)
Trott - best middle order batsman (ditto)
Cook - best batsman in the world
Strauss - best captain
Kevin - most destructive batsman
Morgan - most promising yung talent
Bell - most stylish in the world now
Tremlett - best hit-the-deck bowler
Swann - best spinner now
Bresnan - second best all-rounder in the world
Finn - second best after Andersen

Why did you guys even turn up in England? Useless indians

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Matt Prior(70) - Stuart Broad (53) - Very useful contribution from both.

நமக்கு (மித) வேகப் பந்து வீச்சாளர்கள் மூன்று போறாது என தோணுது. இன்னொருவர் வேணும்.

From: HonestRaj on 24th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

Matt Prior(70) - Stuart Broad (53) - Very useful contribution from both.

நமக்கு (மித) வேகப் பந்து வீச்சாளர்கள் மூன்று போறாது என தோணுது. இன்னொருவர் வேணும்.

2 bowlers + 9 batsman will be kood kambination for indian team... eppadiyum 400+ adikkiranga.. adhukku 5 bowlers'ah..

From: ajithfederer on 24th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

karumaandhiram

. Prior, Broad ae ellam adikka vittachu.

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:24 PM [Full View]

350+ என நினைத்தேன். இப்போ 450+. அப்பாடா சாமி! தாங்க முடியல. கண்ண கட்டுது!

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Prior

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Looks like ENG will declare after Broad also makes century..

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

Looks like ENG will declare after Broad also makes century..

Oops! they declared.

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Gambhir has gone to hospital for an X-ray

விரைவில் நலமடைந்து திரும்ப பிரார்த்தனைகள்.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 10:15 PM [Full View]

Another inside edge from Mukund to the stumps. Broad again.

From: Plum on 24th July 2011 10:24 PM [Full View]

Git, andha twins-ku kodi pidikka Arambinga. Mukunda Mukunda Govinda Govinda.

England should now only be compared with Aussies of Waugh

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 10:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Git, andha twins-ku kodi pidikka Arambinga. Mukunda Mukunda Govinda Govinda.

England should now only be compared with Aussies of Waugh

Mukund is here to stay until Viru comes back.

Seeing that you love stats.

Among the four leftie openers, he had scored more than Strauss, Cook & Gambhir (as yet).

Second highest scorer in first innings (& overall, but a long way to go) after Dravid. Not bad!

From: venkkiram on 24th July 2011 11:22 PM [Full View]

22.1
Tremlett to Laxman, FOUR, Laxman is so strong off the back foot and so strong off his hip. Just flicked the ball at the top of its bounce and it flew to the boundary
22.2
Tremlett to Laxman, FOUR, how's this for timing!? Perfect, that's how. Collective "aaah" in the Cricinfo towers as Laxman hung leg side of the ball and barely touched it to the cover fence
22.3
Tremlett to Laxman, FOUR, and another! Off the front foot this time! Leans into an open-face glide outside off

From: ajithfederer on 24th July 2011 11:34 PM [Full View]

So 378 reqd from 98 overs tomorrow.

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 11:34 PM [Full View]

We could even win this thing tomorrow. But really would be great if we could save the test match with all the injury/illness problems we've had!

From: kid-glove on 24th July 2011 11:39 PM [Full View]

to Dravid. He has been an immovable wall, like that big flat monolith in 2001. England not exactly an unstoppable force to faze him. But we need Laxman, Sachin, Gambhir & others to hang around.

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 12:05 AM [Full View]

இலக்கு மட்டும் 350 ரன்கள் என இருந்திருந்தால் வெற்றி பெற கொஞ்சமாவது வாய்ப்பிருக்கிறது. தொண்ணூறு ஓவர்களில் நானூறு ரன்கள் என்பது கடின இலக்குதான். டிரா செய்யப் போராடுவதை விட வேறு வழியில்லை. ஐந்து விக்கட்டுக்களை 62 ரன்கள் இருக்கும்போதே எடுக்க முடிந்த நாம், கடைசியில் சொதப்பிவிட்டோம். பஜ்ஜி பற்றிய என் அனுமானம் தவிடு பொடியானது. குறைந்த பட்சம் இரு இன்னிங்ஸிலும் சேர்த்து நான்கு விக்கட்டுக்கள் எடுத்திருந்தால் கூட அணிக்கு கொஞ்சமாவது உதவி செய்திருக்கும். சுத்தம்.

ஆஸி - இந்தியா பழையதொரு ஒரு நாள் போட்டியில் ஆஸி 185 ரன்களிலேயே ஆட்டம் இழந்தது. இலக்கை நோக்கி நாம் திறம்பட பயணிக்க முடியாமல் தோற்றுவிட்டோம். ஆஸி தலைவர் ஆலன் பார்டரிடம் எப்படி குறைந்த ரன்களை வைத்து இந்தியாவை நம்பிக்கையோடு எதிர்கொண்டீர்கள் என! "என்றைக்குமே இந்தியா - எல்லாமே ஒரே சேர இருப்பதாக தோன்றினாலும், முடிவில் ஒன்றுமே இல்லாதது போலவே தோன்றவைக்கும்" . அந்த வார்த்தைகள் இன்றைக்கும் இதுபோன்ற இக்கட்டான சூழ்நிலைகளில் இந்தியா சிக்கிக்கொள்ளும் போது சத்தமாக ஒலித்துக் கொண்டே இருக்கிறது.

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 12:14 AM [Full View]

Who should be MOtM? Stuart Broad has a claim with a blistering 50 and match-winning bowling in both innings.
Pietersen with that big daddy hundred is in with a shout, too. Without that India might have tried to draw atleast
Swann or Tremlett or Anderson might put in a claim with a second innings match winning haul, individually or collectively together along with other bowlers.
But for my money it is Matt Prior, in recognition of his two match-rescuing innings and the masterclass behind the stumps to Dhoni. And in the h2h, he has clearly laid waste Dhoni's claims to be the best keeper-batsman in test cricket.

From: HonestRaj on 25th July 2011 12:54 AM [Full View]

my choice.. Kevin Peterson..
he damaged indian team's confidence & indian bowlers confidence (spearheaded by punjab singam DSP ..Harbajan... "Ongi adicha onra <1 1/2> tonne weightu da)

4 testukku serthu oru 12 to 15 wicket edutha periya visayam

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 12:58 AM [Full View]

Flu ,
Chatterjee-ngira pErla unga agendas'lam vElila varrudhu...

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 01:20 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH6W5mW85CY&feature=feedu

Sourav Ganguly Interviews Rahul Dravid

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 01:28 AM [Full View]

Slightly uncomfortable feeling. Can't explain why.

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 01:49 AM [Full View]

http://cricfire.com/highlights/8146/...s-jul-23-2011/

Hi-lites here. Refer this site.

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 02:02 AM [Full View]

In the above hi-lites during the 2nd part @ 01:50 Tendulkar tries to take a single (which is not there) and sent back by dravid. Pietersen shies at the stumps and goes for 4 overthrows. Broad is incensed and yells at KP.

Stuart Broad: What you are doing mate??................., That was fucking stupid!!!
Pietersen: Shut the fuck up and go back and bowl.

Geoff boycot on channel 5 commie: Temper, temper lads.

God, I love Test cricket

From: raghavendran on 25th July 2011 08:20 AM [Full View]

i think we can save this test..98 overs..Broad in full flow...Dravid batting..vangada pathirlam

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:33 AM [Full View]

எல்லாச் சுமைகளையும் டிராவிட் - லட்சுமணன் முதுகிலேயே ஏற்றக் கூடாது. தோணி - ரெய்னாவும் ஒத்துழைக்க வேண்டும். குறைந்த விக்கட்டுகளை இழந்து இதை டிரா செய்தால் அதுவே பெரிய வெற்றி நமக்கு. நாளை இந்தியாவிற்கு இன்னொரு அமிலச் சோதனை.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:50 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Eng will bat till tea and declare with a lead of around 425
India End of Day - 75-85 for 1 wicket down
Tomorrow till Tea - Max 3-4 wickets down
Match Draw

50% well thANdiyAchu, another 50% WE WILL thANdify today

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 10:47 AM [Full View]

Sathya, kaRpanai ellAm nallA dhAn irukku AnA world's best team(England) oththukkAdhungaLE!

Git, yes, I fulfilled my long term agenda of calling SRT a pretender here and getting away with it in the name of chatterjee. Well spotted!

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 11:15 AM [Full View]

Plum, sinam koNda singaththai seeNdinA adhu cellayE sedhachidum parraallayA?

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 11:33 AM [Full View]

250 in the first 2 sessions. 130 in the final. India is going to win..

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 11:36 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

250 in the first 2 sessions. 130 in the final. India is going to win..

Come on Raina!! Lunch'kku appuram Half an hour varaikkum Dravid-Laxman தாக்கு பிடிக்கணும்... அதுக்கப்புறம் டெண்டுல்கர் வந்துடுவார்.. சமாளிச்சுடலாம்..

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 11:41 AM [Full View]

If India wins today, then I think that will be the most defining moment in the history of test cricket.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 11:42 AM [Full View]

Jeippadhu kashtam, 99.99% draw, 0.01% victory for India enbadhu IMP

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 11:42 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Plum, sinam koNda singaththai seeNdinA adhu cellayE sedhachidum parraallayA?

...it's a talent to express that uttered style in print perfectly

!

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 11:43 AM [Full View]

AB In Dreamland!!!

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 11:43 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

...it's a talent to express that uttered style in print perfectly

!

nAn evLo nEram yOsichennu enakkudhaan theriyum

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 11:45 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

AB In Dreamland!!!

Irukkalaam. But I had a hunch during that 2008 Chennai match and took a leave to watch the final day in Chepauk. Same feelings today as well. Paarkkalaam..

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 11:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Irukkalaam. But I had a hunch during that 2008 Chennai match and took a leave to watch the final day in Chepauk. Same feelings today as well. Paarkkalaam..

adhu sehwag vilayaadal! but i shud admit, with sachin slated to come in at the fall of only the fifth wicket and Raina to precede him in the order, i too did have a wicked thought in my mind last night that there's a run a ball first 100 at Lord's, and a 20-20 style bash from Raina with MSD to follow. anyways, let's hope against hope (kanavula mannu allippoda plum ippo vandhu oru post pannuvaar, in the name of trategy!).

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

with sachin slated to come in at the fall of only the fifth wicket and Raina to precede him in the order,

not necessary.. half an hour past lunch time OR at # 7.. whichever is earlier..

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 12:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Git, yes, I fulfilled my long term agenda of calling SRT a pretender here and getting away with it in the name of chatterjee. Well spotted!

Okay Okay. Relax.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 12:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

not necessary.. half an hour past lunch time OR at # 7.. whichever is earlier..

Car Free Service Terms and Conditions maadhiri irukku

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 12:06 PM [Full View]

Raina is destined to fail in this series after the hundred in warmup & reasonably good Windies tour. No Chatterjee or reverse jinxing, just the way it goes. Law of averages imbaingalE..

From: Siv.S on 25th July 2011 01:02 PM [Full View]

Ajay

you are talking like as if harby and co is gonna bowl.. to be fair india cant bat for 98 overs... sachin can come only after lunch or 7th down right? forget abt winning even Draw should be difficult target.....

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 01:13 PM [Full View]

Yeah and Lords ground is much bigger than Chennai. Forget hitting sixers even boundaries take longer on the slope side.

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 01:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Irukkalaam. But I had a hunch during that 2008 Chennai match and took a leave to watch the final day in Chepauk. Same feelings today as well. Paarkkalaam..

nEthE solli irundhA urgentA Londonku Business Class-la ticket eduthu koduthuruppOmE...too late now, unga kanavu palikkAdhu

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 01:46 PM [Full View]

World #1 Team fans-ai ipdi polamba vechuttAingaLE! oNNA reNdA aayiram poRkAsugaL. avan vara mAttAn, varavE mAttAn, century adikkavE mAttAn

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 01:49 PM [Full View]

yAru polambinaanga inga?

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 02:01 PM [Full View]

yaarO

(mmm..saNdaikku vAnga...it's going in a direction I desire

)

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 02:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

yaarO

(mmm..saNdaikku vAnga...it's going in a direction I desire

)

ippadi openA sonnA ushaar aayiduvaangalla?

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 02:35 PM [Full View]

sathya, ungaLukku theriyAdhadhillai - "avanga" ushAr AgaRAngaLAngaRadhu mukkiyam illai, avanga ushAr AnAlum nAma ushAr pandrOmAngaRadhu dhAn mukkiyam

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 02:37 PM [Full View]

Point Taken

From: scorpio on 25th July 2011 03:34 PM [Full View]

Sunny morning at Lord's. Full 98 overs possible says Cricinfo.

Rain, rain- seekiram vandhu India-va kaapaathu

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

CricInfo Fantasy Points Update..

ramalji ( Ramalji XI ) - 1404
Satissh ( SATs Champs) - 1154
venkkiram ( Warriors) - 1132
venkat81 ( Venkat XI ) - 1048
Vinodkumars ( vinodkumars ) - 913
DineshKumarD ( Dinesh XI ) - 695

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 03:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Rain, rain- seekiram vandhu India-va kaapaathu

Chance eh illa , it is going to very warm and sunny, already the temp is around 25c, and it is only 11:15 am here, after lunch it would reach around 29c . This "should " help india as the pitch will become Flat, or it can help swann!

The chances of India managing a draw seems very unlikely, unless "The wall" is not broken!

From: scorpio on 25th July 2011 03:57 PM [Full View]

PS- enna solla vareenga? England will win-aa?

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 03:58 PM [Full View]

Queue outside Lord's,
http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...300/135318.jpg

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

where is Broad? இப்போ போடுடா பாக்கலாம்..

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

OMG! Wall broken!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

PS- enna solla vareenga? England will win-aa?

yes, they have a better chance! How can India let Fraud hit 70 odd runs ????

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 04:05 PM [Full View]

34.1 Anderson to Dravid, out Caught by Prior!! That is a serious lapse in concentration and Anderson has broken through the Wall. Anderson who hasn't looked dangerous at all gets a wicket via an ordinary shot by Dravid. It was on a back of a length and outside off, Dravid tried to steer it down with an angled bat down to the vacant third man region and edged it. Anderson roars in delight even as Dravid berates himself for playing such a loose shot. The one man who could've saved India today has fallen. England will now smell blood. Dravid c Prior b Anderson 36(93) [4s-5]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

OMG! Wall broken!

Sutham

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

Gambhir is the new batsman, bruised elbow but not broken.

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

eppO thambi Dinesh Karthik-ai openerA thookkinIngaLO appOvE indha England series thOppIngannu mudivAgi pOchu. This is divine retribution for mismanagement of Dinesh thambi's career after a promising start in England, which actually made a huge contribution to India's series victory

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

where is Broad? இப்போ போடுடா பாக்கலாம்..

edhukku indha veera vasanam ippO?

From: scorpio on 25th July 2011 04:08 PM [Full View]

PS- nalla veyyil koLuthinaa evening mazhai varum-nga. Around Tea time kooda inikku rain prediction illayaa unga oorla?

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

Gambhir has come in......Dravid's loss is taking around 40% of chances for saving the match......

Indha mukund ellam enna Mkku aaduraan-nnu theriayala?? cant he bat for 50 overs??

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

PS- nalla veyyil koLuthinaa evening mazhai varum-nga. Around Tea time kooda inikku rain prediction illayaa unga oorla?

Nope, chance eh illa, it is all Blue sky here! Rain is not at all expected in the London Area!

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 04:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

eppO thambi Dinesh Karthik-ai openerA thookkinIngaLO appOvE indha England series thOppIngannu mudivAgi pOchu. This is divine retribution for mismanagement of Dinesh thambi's career after a promising start in England, which actually made a huge contribution to India's series victory

அதுவும் முரளி விஜய்'எ தூக்கினதுக்க்ப்புரமும் இந்தியா ஜெயக்கும்னு எதிர்பார்த்த..

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 04:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

edhukku indha veera vasanam ippO?

.........

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 04:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

edhukku indha veera vasanam ippO?

எல்லாம் ஒரு வெத்து உதார் தான்..

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 04:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

Gambhir has come in......Dravid's loss is taking around 40% of chances for saving the match......

Indha mukund ellam enna Mkku aaduraan-nnu theriayala?? cant he bat for 50 overs??

single tea-kkE vazhi illaiyAm, singapOre pOgalAmAnnu kEttAnAm

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 04:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

yes, they have a better chance! How can India let Fraud hit 70 odd runs ????

If u didn't know his batting record, please check the stats...it's better than some of the flat track bullies' overseas record!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

If u didn't know his batting record, please check the stats...it's better than some of the flat track bullies' overseas record!

I was saying this in support of India!!!

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Stuart Christopher James Broad has a 169 in Test Cricket.
Mark Waugh's highest in Tests is 154 I think

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

That too he, along with Trott, helped England to recover from a near defeat to a win.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Stuart Christopher James Broad has a 169 in Test Cricket.Mark Waugh's highest in Tests is 154 I think

Against which team ??

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 04:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Stuart Christopher James Broad has a 169 in Test Cricket.
Mark Waugh's highest in Tests is 154 I think

mallandhu paduthhu evalavu height-a ecchha thuppara competition-laya??

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Against which team ??

at Lord's params, against a superior bowling attack of pakistan..he came in at 102-7 and won the match for england in partnership with trott, so it's not that he's a doug marilier for us to summa allow him to hit 70 odd!

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

Pakistan..

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 04:27 PM [Full View]

gauti is really struggling, taking his hand off the bat after each ball....

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

Ok thanks Jinju and Ajay

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

Englands waste one review

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 04:50 PM [Full View]

I think England can afford to waste reviews - their bowlers are going to create enough chances for them to grab 9 wickets today to close the match out in their favour. how many more to go?

Sorry we got the Dynasty wrong

Hussain = Border
Vaughan/Strauss= Taylor
Strauss/Cook= S Waugh
Broad = Ponting.

EdhO namma kAlaththula Fraud captainA irukkaRachE marubadiyum England #1 positionlErundhu iRanginA sandhOsham.
One good thing is after Tendul and co retire, there wont be an incentive to watch cricket - I mean, anyway appetite will be lost, in addition with England dominating, any left over wish to watch test cricket will also be extinguished(for me - although I admit it is not necessarily linked to their quality; they seem capable of being a high quality, all-conquerring #1 side)

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 04:55 PM [Full View]

Laxman

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

Crisis man again coming to the fore..

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

எனது சின்ன சின்ன ஆசை.. இந்தத் தொடர் முடிவடையும் போது, நம்மாளுக அதிக சதம் போட்டிருக்கணும். நடந்தேருமா?

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

What is this 12:27 rule?

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

What is this 12:27 rule?

they calculate the time spend on the field, off the field, etc, AB, in case of a player's prolonged absence from the field and arrive upon a time on when that player can bat/bowl again.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

Gambhir! veeraNdA

Lachu beauty

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

VVS

keep going..nothing less than a century from u can save the day for us today!

//did any of u guys see dada in the star sports studio yesterday? he was looking dapper in his ray ban and all

...i don't remember seeing any other commentator wearing coolers inside the studio!//

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

Keep posting the scores pls

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

pochu......

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

pochu......

???

detailaa post paNNungappA!

From: Dinesh84 on 25th July 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by !@#%info

12.27pm The time has come. If a wicket falls now, Sachin Tendulkar can come out to bat.

48.1

Anderson to Laxman, OUT, gone! Laxman pulls straight into the hands of midwicket. The ball was short, but not quite the bouncer, and he tapped it away with a short-arm jab. Bell leaps at short midwicket, and clutches onto the catch

VVS Laxman c Bell b Anderson 56 (113b 8x4 0x6) SR: 49.55

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

Laxman gone..

Sachu+MSD+Gauti+Sura will fight for the win

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Laxman gone..
Sachu+MSD+Gauti+Sura will fight for the win

umadhu kaRpanaiyE kaRpanai

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 25th July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

GAuti's gone here!!!! swann gets him......super umpiring decision

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

gambhir gone...

From: Dinesh84 on 25th July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

vengaayam...

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

அய்யோயோ... என்னையா இப்படி ஆகிடிச்சு நம்ம நிலைமை..

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

GAuti's gone here!!!! swann gets him......super umpiring decision

romba mukkiyam!

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:18 PM [Full View]

No wickets from now on till tea atleast. plssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

indha oru test thOkkaRudhukkE ayyayyOvA? innum evLO irukku indha series-la India fans? edhaiyum thAngum idhayam aNNA aRivAlayathula kedaikkum - pOi vAngikkunga - unga ellOrukum thEvai padum indha series-la

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

Like in Football (for the national team/ not the premier leagues/ Team matches) they should have a rule in cricket that only the people who are “born” in that country should play for the country.

I can imagine the "state of Inglis Cricket" if this law is imposed on ECB

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

Ok.. Let us play for a draw and look for a win in Trentbridge..

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

No wickets from now on till tea atleast. plssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

இந்த மாதிரி அதிகமா ஆசை படகூடாது... டிராவிட் மாதிரி ball by ball, over by over, session by session 'na யோசிக்கணும்..

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Ok.. Let us play for a draw and look for a win in Trentbridge..

இப்போவாச்சும் இந்த முடிவுக்கு வந்தீங்களே..

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 25th July 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

romba mukkiyam!

ennanga panrathu.....indiavvum nalla aadra madhiri theriyala.....englandayyum support panna mudiyaathu.....umpiresyaavathu praise pannuvome.....

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:25 PM [Full View]

If at all ther's one cricketing hero from Pakistan over the last 3,4 years, it has to be Asad Rauf.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:26 PM [Full View]

Aleem Dar?

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

If at all ther's one cricketing hero from Pakistan over the last 3,4 years, it has to be Asad Rauf.

aleem dar?

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:27 PM [Full View]

Who are at the crease now?

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 05:27 PM [Full View]

AB, Asad Rauf-ukkum mElE there is Aleem Dar

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:28 PM [Full View]

Oh.. Bit of confusion..

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Who are at the crease now?

sir and sura

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Like in Football (for the national team/ not the premier leagues/ Team matches) they should have a rule in cricket that only the people who are “born” in that country should play for the country.

I can imagine the "state of Inglis Cricket" if this law is imposed on ECB

paNnuvAnga. ipdi oru rule koNdu varuvAnga - but not now. In a few years, when England gains Cricketing dominance(like BCCI now), and England are self-sufficient, appO ipdi oru rule koNdu varuvAnga. andha time pArthu, Kenyala poRandhu vaLarndha oru Indian bayangara talentedA iruppAn. appO ECB to BCCI will do

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Who are at the crease now?

Raina and Tendulkar

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:32 PM [Full View]

Thanks Jinju and AB.

From: jinju on 25th July 2011 05:33 PM [Full View]

"Suresh Raina on a pair. Plenty of chatter around the bat. Pressure.

Swann to Raina, FOUR, well, that's a good way to get off the pair. Raina gets to the pitch of one that was just too full, getting his left leg out of the way and driving straight down the ground "

opening ellaam nalla thaan irukku, but tremlett n anderson working him out with short stuff again, not so comfortable...142/4 and that's lunch

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 05:34 PM [Full View]

Is thalaivar off the mark?

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Ok.. Let us play for a draw and look for a win in Trentbridge..

ungala AR., Dhoni madhiri aalunga romba keduthhu vechirukkaanga (i.e anything can be achieved)

i still feel we can draw if we tendulkar bats for next 72 overs, Raina for next 20 overs, Dhoni for another 30 overs and Bhajji/others for rest of 22 overs each...........on a flat track, it is a fair expectation......

From: ajaybaskar on 25th July 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Yup.. On 7

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Kenyala poRandhu vaLarndha oru Indian bayangara talentedA iruppAn. appO ECB to BCCI will do

Yes with Surname's like Shah, Patels,

From: scorpio on 25th July 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

Unless a miracle happens, even a draw seems unlikely

Sehwag illa, Zak-Gambhir injured, Sachin-kku udambu seri illa, adhanaala thaan thOthOm-nnu manasa thEthikka vEndiyadhu thaan

From: raghavendran on 25th July 2011 06:00 PM [Full View]

Dravid,laxman both played poor shots..and Gambhir should have kept his pads away,knowing that Swann is darting everything in and not spinning... its tough...1 more wicket in the post lunch session,it will be over,mainly because the rules say 98 overs have to be bowled and time not taken as consideration and the new ball will be taken just before tea..so kashtamdhan...but everything is once again in Nootrandin Manidhan's hands..

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

66.6
Anderson to Tendulkar, OUT, gone this time! Anderson gets his man and there will be no Lord's fairytale for Tendulkar. He departs to a standing ovation that will be his last Test innings at Lord's. Nipped back from a length and past the inside edge flush onto the pads in front. What an incredible response from Anderson to the disappointment. Heartbreak for India
SR Tendulkar lbw b Anderson 12 (68b 1x4 0x6) SR: 17.64

இனி பார்ப்பதை நிறுத்திவிடலாம் ..

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

57 more overs and only recognised 2 batsmen, hmmmm......

and hope we dont have a collapse after a tendulkar wicket like we have had many times before...........and wat got into Anderson

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

சுத்தம் , வெள்ளைக்காரன் வெறி கொண்டு ஆடபோகிரன் !

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

to no.1 ranking..

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

If we had players fit, we would be winning this test. How lucky are England?

From: raghavendran on 25th July 2011 07:59 PM [Full View]

Sachin got into a shell....last 40 balls 1 run after a close decision turned down..:sigh:..it happens to him wen he is not playing normally...
raina playing a gutsy innings...unafraid of the current situation..yelaa ratham eh?

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 07:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

If we had players fit, we would be winning this test. How lucky are England?

broad and prior ah nethu adika vittathu thaan thappu ... otherwise confirmed Draw illaena Win aagirupom ...

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:01 PM [Full View]

பசங்க அடிச்சு ஆட ஆரம்பிச்சிட்டாங்க. டெஸ்ட் முடிவுக்கு காத்திருக்க வேண்டியதில்லை. கூடிய விரைவிலேயே(!) நடந்தேறும்.

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:06 PM [Full View]

Raina - 50

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:10 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...300/135343.jpg

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 08:11 PM [Full View]

RAina veladuratha paatha mudichiruvaan polayae sikiram ... if Dhoni nd Raina play for 20 overs bajji , zaheer , praveen , ishanth ah vachi 20 over otiralam ... thambi usara veladungapa

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

பாதிக் கிணறு தாண்டியாச்சி. டிராவிட்டும், லட்சுமணனும் இன்னும் விளையாடி கொண்டிருந்ததால் எப்படி இருக்கும்? ச்ச..

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Why does Sachin go into a shell whenever we play for a draw? Not for a single time it worked and we have always seen him getting out after playing like this. Only he knows the answer

From: cinema on 25th July 2011 08:23 PM [Full View]

the only hope I have is, we have never lost a match when Dravid scores century(According to cricinfo).

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 08:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cinema

the only hope I have is, we have never lost a match when Dravid scores century(According to cricinfo).

We have lost a match against Zimbabwe at Harrare ...

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 08:37 PM [Full View]

only hope i have is, whenever cricinfo bad mouths India, which do they regularly, i dont feel bad after a India defeat too......

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Dhoni gone

From: raajarasigan on 25th July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

such a poor defensive batting by both sachin and dhoni.. if you are playing for a draw, you need to rotate the strike and play positively.. after Tea, dhoni was NOT at all trying to score runs.. Raina is still surviving due to the same reason..

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

85.2
Tremlett to Dhoni, OUT, Dhoni is gone, pretty poor shot. Big, big wicket and England are into the tail with a newish ball in their hands.
MS Dhoni c †Prior b Tremlett 16 (49b 2x4 0x6) SR: 32.65

From: V_S on 25th July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Who is writing the titles in espncricinfo.com for this match. Right from yesterday there was a title saying 'England need 9 wickets to win' till now they are saying 'Need four'. Sort of working out for them. Someone pro-england man is writing this. Not good for us.

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

இன்னும் முப்பது சொட்சம் ஓவர்கள் தான். தம் கட்டி நில்லுங்கப்பூ! லண்டனிலேயே மெழுகு உருவச் சிலை வைத்துவிடலாம்.

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

Harbajan intha match mattum save panni kuduthutaan inimae thittaevae mataen ... Heard sema atmosphere in Lord's. each ball is cheered nu ... Save pannirungada deivangala ...

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

S
Disappointed with his batting 2day.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Why does Sachin go into a shell whenever we play for a draw? Not for a single time it worked and we have always seen him getting out after playing like this. Only he knows the answer

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Baji being dropped by Morgan. India should be able to draw the match now, only 30 odd overs to go

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Raina survived ....

From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

idiot harbhajan.

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Harbajhan gone ... 30 overs thaan irukungara bothu sensible la veladatha intha ___________ yenna __________ team la irukanum ....

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by V_S

Who is writing the titles in espncricinfo.com for this match. Right from yesterday there was a title saying 'England need 9 wickets to win' till now they are saying 'Need four'. Sort of working out for them. Someone pro-england man is writing this. Not good for us.

who is writing in cricinfo - some punks who dont have any better work and want to provoke people into posting and follow their dirty piece of web space

From: Balaji.r on 25th July 2011 09:24 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Harbajan intha match mattum save panni kuduthutaan inimae thittaevae mataen ... Heard sema atmosphere in Lord's. each ball is cheered nu ... Save pannirungada deivangala ...

start meesik. avan save panna illa shave panna thaan layakku

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Remember Lord's 2007? Sreesanth was reprieved by a howler a few minutes before the rains came. India would have lost it if that had been given.

they are so insecure that India might sneak a dramatic draw here that they are posting such stuff, so that they are satisfied with a jab at India atleast........

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Harbajan intha match mattum save panni kuduthutaan inimae thittaevae mataen ...

Avan thirundhave mattaan

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

91.5
Anderson to Harbhajan Singh, OUT, 132.9 kph, and that's that from Harbhajan. Forgettable Test, and no redemption. Didn't help his cause with the shot he just played either. Short ball from Anderson, Harbhajan again plays that mosquito-swat hooky-pull of his and balloons the edge high and down to wide mid-on where Tremlett holds it easy. England are taking this away now.
Harbhajan Singh c Tremlett b Anderson 12 (24b 2x4 0x6) SR: 50.00

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Balaji.r

start meesik. avan save panna illa shave panna thaan layakku

adhula paarunga, avan adha kooda panradhilla

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

Om, sivO hum, rudra naamam bajhE hum

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

adhula paarunga, avan adha kooda panradhilla

How do you know?

From: Balaji.r on 25th July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

adhula paarunga, avan adha kooda panradhilla

avanukku panna maatam, may be for others

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

How do you know?

avan moonjiyayum, nenjayum paarunga, pusu pusu-nnu mudi.......adhukku keela, namma kitta info illainga - cricinfo vena kuduppaanga.....

From: V_S on 25th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

I see two main mistakes by India this time. Winning the toss and chose fielding. I don't know why Dhoni did that. Even by doing that they should have played a better first innings (the same 30 overs additional atleast) which would not have put us in this position. Those 30 overs time and runs would have relieved all the pressure.

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

இன்னும் மூணு விக்கட்டுக்களா? ஜாகிர் கான் இன்று விளையாடுவாரா?

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

avan moonjiyayum, nenjayum paarunga, pusu pusu-nnu mudi.......adhukku keela, namma kitta info illainga - cricinfo vena kuduppaanga.....

crookinfo kEdu kettavanunga, indha stats ellaam vechirundhaalum vechiruppaanga! Ok, ur gut feel for this match? escape or not?

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by V_S

I see two main mistakes by India this time. Winning the toss and chose fielding. I don't know why Dhoni did that

conditions were superb, overcast, ball was swinging, pitch was fresh......unfortunately, apart from Zaheer, none looked sharp in that morning session and the late blasts from KP/Swann in 1st innings and Prior/Broad in 2nd innings.........even if we had defended those 2 late bursts, we would have managed a comfortable draw but i think we were helpless once zaheer left for injury- i dont think we had any scope to even defend with only 3 mainstream bowlers......

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 25th July 2011 09:39 PM [Full View]

Why on Earth is cricinfo making such "mockery" by saying 9 wickets to go 8 wickets to go and now 3 wickets to go! ? such childish remarks!

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:40 PM [Full View]

Yuvaraj would hvae bowled and batted far better than this useless fellow ... seigh ...

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Ok, ur gut feel for this match? escape or not?

my gut feel - its a defeat

......but losing a test match in last 25 overs is unpardonable.....

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

Kumaru bowled ... 2 more to go ...

30 overs ... 2 wickets katham katham ...

From: raghavendran on 25th July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

bad show by Indian batsmen...poor batting..its like comprehensively accepting that if you bowl well we will give our wickets...surely England doesnt look a great bowling side...yes its their home conditions and Broad and tremlett trouble a bit..but never unplayable...

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Zaheer with a runner, recipe for disaster

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

bad show by Indian batsmen...poor batting..its like comprehensively accepting that if you bowl well we will give our wickets...surely England doesnt look a great bowling side...yes its their home conditions and Broad and tremlett trouble a bit..but never unplayable...

yeah, all said and done(Sachin's fever, zaheer injury etc) this match could have been saved until Praveen Kumar's dismissal - he was a Fing opener for UP in Ranji trophy

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

Well Played Raina, did ur best

From: VinodKumar's on 25th July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

:bye: Raina ... Well done.

From: raghavendran on 25th July 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

may be we have to skip the first match of a test series here after...

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

Ok, let's put this test behind and look to win the next one!! Please kick that Bhajji out of the team before that.

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

அகலருக்கு இன்னொரு விக்கட். ஆண்டர்சாவிற்கு இன்னொரு விக்கட்.

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

may be we have to skip the first match of a test series here after...

+1, pasanga match aada pOradhukku munnaadi idhu 2nd matchuppA nu solli anuppaNum pOla!

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

Raina

From: V_S on 25th July 2011 09:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

conditions were superb, overcast, ball was swinging, pitch was fresh......unfortunately, apart from Zaheer, none looked sharp in that morning session and the late blasts from KP/Swann in 1st innings and Prior/Broad in 2nd innings.........even if we had defended those 2 late bursts, we would have managed a comfortable draw but i think we were helpless once zaheer left for injury- i dont think we had any scope to even defend with only 3 mainstream bowlers......

Thanks Maddy, I agree. But considering our bowling consistency, I favored our batting would make us see a comfortable draw. Someone should have have given a stand for Dravid in the first innings.

Remembering West Indies last match where Chanders and Edwards provided vital stand to take the game away from us. Chanders played more than 8 hours and irritated us. They pulled from nowhere after down by 8 wickets.

I am not seeing anything like this. PK played some rash shots in first and Harbhajan supporting him in second. Why can't they give support to the set batsmen at the other end. Wickets should be worked out and not given easily. Why so much hurry in test cricket?

From: SoftSword on 25th July 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

mainly due to the sodhappal in the batting lineup in an important match...
dravid and laxman shoulda played in their respective positions and laxman is more effective and determined when the team has nobody else to depend on...

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

England won by 196 runs

From: MADDY on 25th July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

congrats England, well played

India are up against a mountain thats getting bigger by the moment

From: V_S on 25th July 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

Well done England!

An all round performance, everybody contributing

From: kid-glove on 25th July 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

Terrible

Good that we lost this, it'd be a travesty had we saved it. It'd have papered over our cracks.

Get Harby out. Raina is a better offspinner than Bhajji anyway! Mishra couldn't be worse! And he at least knows to bat sensibly.

The state of injuries/illness is alarming too. If all recover back in time for 3rd test, I'd back 'em to come back strongly.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 25th July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

raina

.....guess the first test losing syndrome will never end for india......the last time india won the first test of an overseas series was in the 2006 sa tour and we went on to lose the series.....still feel we will do much better in the next 3 matches......hoping for another dravid classic and of course a sachin ton.....

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by V_S

But considering our bowling consistency, I favored our batting would make us see a comfortable draw.

Yes..well said V_S.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 25th July 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Why does Sachin go into a shell whenever we play for a draw? Not for a single time it worked and we have always seen him getting out after playing like this. Only he knows the answer

reminded me of the third test match of the sa series in 2006.....

...hope its just an aberration....

From: sathya_1979 on 25th July 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

Where is Plum?

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

mainly due to the sodhappal in the batting lineup in an important match...
dravid and laxman shoulda played in their respective positions and laxman is more effective and determined when the team has nobody else to depend on...

I guess Gambhir was not well so he didn't open. I don't think they would have messed up the batting order if that's not the case.

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

reminded me of the third test match of the sa series in 2006.....

...hope its just an aberration....

Against Pak in Bangalore test (2005) as well. It was the worst innings played by him - 16(96).

From: SoftSword on 25th July 2011 10:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I guess Gambhir was not well so he didn't open. I don't think they would have messed up the batting order if that's not the case.

i know we din hav an option, but thats an important factor i mean.

From: Plum on 25th July 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

Aduththa match jeyikkaROm Sathya. India to win the series 2-1

From: venkkiram on 25th July 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

Player of the match KP Pietersen

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 25th July 2011 11:32 PM [Full View]

Better tendulkar finish his hundredth ton fast.....the sooner he gets it the better for him.....i remember him waiting for a long time to get past lara's test aggregate

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 12:18 AM [Full View]

It pains me beyond reason to see Shewag and Zaheer khan being side-lined for the most important Test tour of our times. BCCI should have checked with Shewag over his fitness and made him do the surgery months ago. Who cares for IPL. There are bigger things at stake here. Zaheer

. What's the use of all your talent when you can't be fit for the important Test Tours. First drop your weight man.

Tendulkar, nobody can never push a match just by being defensive. Again getting out to Anderson. At-least i was happy to see the fluent first innings. You were fortunate to survive the earlier lbw call. I'm not sure how bad his viral infection was but it is no excuse.The English have a right to cry foul over Non availability of LBW UDRS because in this match it is them who were robbed off clear lbw decisions. I don't think they will go out and give an interview bullying umpires. Even Raina was lbw long before to Broad. Anderson, Broad and Tremlett are too good compared to Injured Zak, Ishanth and Praveen Kumar.

I decided never to speak abt harby here but his awful ness in this test has made me broke that. 35-3-152-0. The only thing he made large is England's first Innings total. Selectors should show some balls and drop Bhajji. He has been clearly useless for a long time. Last time Zaheer was ably supported by Kumble(14) and RP Singh who took a 5-fer. Bowling wins you matches. Batting can at best save matches and win a few.

Dhoni has become a walking wicket. He is easily getting out when the new ball comes to play. He never had the technique to play it in the first place but he has already been playing for 5 test cricket years now. And his mistakes become glaringly obvious when Prior on the other hand shines like a star with the bat.

Dravid

. Ishanth, Praveen not bad but so much is expected of you too. We need to win matches.

The English are on a mission. They want the No 1 title bad and they are gonna take it from us if we don't at-least draw the next match.

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 12:22 AM [Full View]

Who gives a shit(I don't think he igives it either) abt his 100th hundred. There are bigger things at stake here. We have to either draw or win this series. No excuses.

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

Better tendulkar finish his hundredth ton fast.....the sooner he gets it the better for him.....i remember him waiting for a long time to get past lara's test aggregate

From: venkkiram on 26th July 2011 12:30 AM [Full View]

பெரியார் ஒரு புறத்தில் விளாசித் தள்ளும்போது தன்னால் மட்டும் பிரகாசிக்க முடியவில்லையே என்ற தாழ்வு மனப்பான்மை தோனிக்கு இந்த தொடரில் வரப் போகிறது. தலைமைப்பண்புகள் எந்த அளவுக்கு முக்கியமோ அதே அளவுக்கு பேட்டிங் முக்கியம். குறிப்பாக இதுபோன்ற டிரா செய்ய வேண்டிய ஆட்டங்களில்.

From: VinodKumar's on 26th July 2011 12:33 AM [Full View]

It's really paining

... Whenever England looked going down in the match we welcomed back them into the match with two hands.

When Ishanth was in good touch yesterday , Dhoni and Raina started bowling after the lunch . Oru match ban aana ippo enna

. Today it all started when RD and Laxman threw their wickets for poor shots. Knowing Sachin and Gauti are not fully fit playing such poor shots are not excusable.

Ventha punla vela paichirathukunu team la oruthan irrukaan. Keta batting la concentrate pannuraen, I still have lot of crikcet left in me nu ... 30 overs velandumngarapa Tremlett kooda sanda thevaya ???

From: VinodKumar's on 26th July 2011 12:35 AM [Full View]

If England win the next match kadaisi rendu matchukum thaar road poturuvaanga. Appo aaluku oru century adichikitu oora paathu vara vendiyathu thaan.

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 12:37 AM [Full View]

Yes Dhoni should have persisted with Ishanth and got us the wickets. Case in point Ponting did the same mistake in BG 2008 in India and he lost the series.

RD evvalavu dhaanga pannuvaaru. He just scored a 100 in the first innings. Tendulkar should have batted much better.

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

It's really paining

... Whenever England looked going down in the match we welcomed back them into the match with two hands.

When Ishanth was in good touch yesterday , Dhoni and Raina started bowling after the lunch . Oru match ban aana ippo enna

. Today it all started when RD and Laxman threw their wickets for poor shots. Knowing Sachin and Gauti are not fully fit playing such poor shots are not excusable.

Ventha punla vela paichirathukunu team la oruthan irrukaan. Keta batting la concentrate pannuraen, I still have lot of crikcet left in me nu ... 30 overs velandumngarapa Tremlett kooda sanda thevaya ???

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 12:40 AM [Full View]

Couldn't be said much better dude.

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Get Harby out. Raina is a better offspinner than Bhajji anyway! Mishra couldn't be worse! And he at least knows to bat sensibly.

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 12:47 AM [Full View]

I am not watching IPL Next year if we lose the No 1 ranking after this tour. There is no redemption for that kind of a sin.

From: kid-glove on 26th July 2011 12:55 AM [Full View]

I agree with Feddy. Generally decisions went our way in (our) fourth innings. A couple of unlucky decisions off Harby in both innings. I think the decision that effectively put England on a stronger position is Broad's in their 2nd innings, had it been given (it'd be if we had DRS for LBWs,) then we'd have drawn this match as I don't see an England acceleration . But overall, it's stupid on our part to not use technology (however prone it is to anomalies). It's BCCI's decision that helps prevent a legitimate game being played. England are right to feel aggrieved themselves. We can't complain any more.

Both teams dropped catches. England dropped Dravid/Laxman off Broad in a single over. If not for luck, we'd be facing an innings defeat, who knows?

Zak's weight & the dramatic leap in runup will always be an issue unless he makes subtle adjustments.

But all said & done, it's been a while since we saw an England team having an extra something in every department than in the past (yeah, saffers, Irishmen do contribute a lot to it!). This is the kind of series these players live for. Our planning in run-up to this was poor in deed.

It's also interesting to note that those who went to Windies tour seem healthier than those who were rested.

From: VinodKumar's on 26th July 2011 12:55 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I am not watching IPL Next year if we lose the No 1 ranking after this tour. There is no redemption for that kind of a sin.

... Gauti , Viru and Zak - Played full IPL - rested for windies tour - Now they are not fit

From: kid-glove on 26th July 2011 01:02 AM [Full View]

IPL franchise doctors should never be trusted.

From: Death Note on 26th July 2011 01:10 AM [Full View]

Good win for England.

Some of the commentators(Hussain,Botham) need to shut up, getting too carried away. Want India to win the series now just to see their reactions.

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 01:12 AM [Full View]

Gambhir 2/10
Mukund 5; for the 49 in first inns.
Dravid Batting wise 8/10 ; But he dropped catches.
Tendulkar 2
Laxman - 5/10. Stop playing lazy shots and getting out
Raina - 6/10
Dhoni - 2; in fact 1
Zak - 2/10. Could have been 8 or 9 if he was fit.
Bhajji - Sorry mate
Pravin - 5/10.
Ishanth - 5/10

From: kid-glove on 26th July 2011 01:21 AM [Full View]

Laxman's dismissal in both innings could have been avoided. It's strange to see him get dismissed in that fashion!

I have to say Mukund's been the pick of the openers. Seemed more fluent than Gambhir, Cook & Strauss. With bit more learning off Laxman, Sachin & Dravid - he'd be some player..

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 03:13 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...300/135349.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 03:16 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...300/135334.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 03:30 AM [Full View]

* There is no final word on Zaheer Khan's availability for the second Test. Asked if Zaheer was expected to be fit for the match, which starts on July 29, Dhoni was skeptical. "We have three days but I am not 100% sure if we will play him or not. It is a long series and we don't want to risk any individual if he is only 90% fit as that only increases the chances of him getting injured further. It is very important to get the guys fully fit."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/524756.html

From: ajithfederer on 26th July 2011 03:33 AM [Full View]

Harbhajan, who is India's most-experienced bowler, wore a deflated look for most of the Test and his match figures of 56-4-218-1 only raised questions about his position as lead spinner. But Dhoni was not bothered. "I saw a lot of improvement [in Harbhajan]. He bowled a lot slower in this game. It was slightly tough on him especially when Pietersen got set and started going after the spinner. There was no turn to deceive the batsman. But I was really impressed with the pace at which Harbhajan bowled. As the series progresses, it will be really interesting to see him bowl at some of the venues which are known to assist spin."

Murugaa indha naatai kaapathupaa!!!!

From: Sourav on 26th July 2011 07:09 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

It's really paining

... Whenever England looked going down in the match we welcomed back them into the match with two hands.

When Ishanth was in good touch yesterday , Dhoni and Raina started bowling after the lunch . Oru match ban aana ippo enna

. Today it all started when RD and Laxman threw their wickets for poor shots. Knowing Sachin and Gauti are not fully fit playing such poor shots are not excusable.

Ventha punla vela paichirathukunu team la oruthan irrukaan. Keta batting la concentrate pannuraen, I still have lot of crikcet left in me nu ... 30 overs velandumngarapa Tremlett kooda sanda thevaya ???

very disappointing but i expected this result wen i heard two of our important batsmen r not well (sachin,gauti)... because that was a mammoth total to chase, and we have successfully chased 300+ only twice b4...(chennai 2008 match, and a 1976 match)... i could watch only few overs wen raina was playing... great to see him playing with that much of dedication... way to go raina...

in other end bhajji played an irresponsible shot to revenge the bowler... aandava!
Eng bowling unit is good but not much threatening like steyn+morkel... i believe we can play better wen all players are fully fit and available... hoping for the best...

From: Sourav on 26th July 2011 07:29 AM [Full View]

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From: raghavendran on 26th July 2011 08:09 AM [Full View]

India thotadhuku feel pannamadhirye theriyala....if Zak is not playing the next game..Eng again may scrore more than 400...and i get a bad feeling that this Gauti-mukund combo wont work..any one of them might fail..
if we wont win the series...we should not call ourselves number 1...because our road to number 1 has had only 1 series win out of subcontinent..doesnt prove anything...for how many years we will only draw a test series abroad???

From: mgb on 26th July 2011 09:07 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Get Harby out. Raina is a better offspinner than Bhajji anyway! Mishra couldn't be worse! And he at least knows to bat sensibly.

I feel, yuvraj can bowl and bat better than bhajji (atleast he is assured of KP's wicket)

From: ajaybaskar on 26th July 2011 10:25 AM [Full View]

A totally forgettable test except for RD and Ishant's performances. The difference between the 2 teams was Matt Prior IMO.

From: ajaybaskar on 26th July 2011 10:27 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Why does Sachin go into a shell whenever we play for a draw? Not for a single time it worked and we have always seen him getting out after playing like this. Only he knows the answer

Surprising to see you asking this question to a man who came out to bat in spite of having fever.

From: ajaybaskar on 26th July 2011 10:29 AM [Full View]

Cricinfo was totally annoying, 9 more wickets to win, 8 more wickets to winnu potte kaduppethittanga.

From: raajarasigan on 26th July 2011 10:30 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Harbhajan, who is India's most-experienced bowler, wore a deflated look for most of the Test and his match figures of 56-4-218-1 only raised questions about his position as lead spinner. But Dhoni was not bothered. "I saw a lot of improvement [in Harbhajan]. He bowled a lot slower in this game. It was slightly tough on him especially when Pietersen got set and started going after the spinner. There was no turn to deceive the batsman. But I was really impressed with the pace at which Harbhajan bowled. As the series progresses, it will be really interesting to see him bowl at some of the venues which are known to assist spin."

Murugaa indha naatai kaapathupaa!!!!

More than Harbhajan's bowling, dhoni's backing is the most irritating part...

as if that he is encouraging an young and upcoming bowler... :angry3:

From: Plum on 26th July 2011 10:50 AM [Full View]

Ajay, this is not the first time. Whenever we play for a last draw, he goes into shell and it ends up backfiring.
Even his blindest supporters Sunny and Ravi conceded this point yesterday.
Ganguly also observed it happened many times, not sure why he gets into the negative mindset like that.

It is a flaw - note the difference between these and the 136. That was made when he was going for a win. Same with 103* chasing 387.
Why not have a positive approach then since negative approach is a proven failure for him?
Like the example about the scientist and two holes, maybe sometimes great men cannot see what even ordinary minds like ours can!

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 11:24 AM [Full View]

My vonly alpa sandhOsham in the Lord's test is Cook getting out cheaply in both innings

With Zak almost out of the next test and Sreesanth likely to replace him, both Cook and Strauss are assured of a century each at Trent Bridge

From: SoftSword on 26th July 2011 02:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Aduththa match jeyikkaROm Sathya. India to win the series 2-1

wtf

From: sathya_1979 on 26th July 2011 03:04 PM [Full View]

Team for 2nd Test:

Gambhir (If Fit) Else Dravid
Mukund
Dravid (If Gambhir is fit) else Laxman
kadavuL
Raina
Laxman (If Gambhir is fit) else Yuvraj
Dhoni (Saha, if Dhoni is banned for slow over-rate)
Ishant
PK
Zaheer if fit, else Sreesanth
Anybody except waste phlow

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

Bhajji will definitely play the next test. Oru test-la poor performance vechu Dhoni and Fletch won't show the door for him.

Next test looks even bleakier with no Gambhir & Zak. vEre yedhavadhu strategy pOttaal thaan jeyikka mudiyum, at least draw panna mudiyum

From: hamid on 26th July 2011 03:43 PM [Full View]

I want Dhoni to be banned for next match.. also Sachin , Gauti and Zaheer be rested because of injury... let them win the next match.... which they will anyway without Zak and Dhoni playing.. maybe if the pitch allows we can show them who we are in third & fourth test with positively Viru also joins in..

From: hamid on 26th July 2011 03:46 PM [Full View]

But, have to accpet that we didnt play like a No.1 Team.. lack of preparation is the first and foremost issue and nobody will dare to speak or correct that..

It is really painful to see the kind of game we played in the field..

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 03:50 PM [Full View]

Why Dhoni ban? Was our over rate slow in the Lord's test also?

From: hamid on 26th July 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Why Dhoni ban? Was our over rate slow in the Lord's test also?

Scorps,
Of course we were slow (13.X over/hour instead of the required 15/hour). No bowler showed any real urgency except the pathetic attempt of bowling Raina and dhoni (when Ishant is in prime form) who gave fours and fours which still delayed the over rate..

From: raajarasigan on 26th July 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Bhajji will definitely play the next test. Oru test-la poor performance vechu Dhoni and Fletch won't show the door for him

என்னது ஒரு டெஸ்ட் performance'a..?? இத தாங்க அவன் கடந்த மூணு வருஷமா பண்றான்..

From: Balaji.r on 26th July 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Do you feel that 8 overs which was bowled by dhoni and raina alone will make a difference to the over rate? Ishant was exhausted and asked for a break. when he came back to bowl it was too late.

From: MADDY on 26th July 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

When Ishanth was in good touch yesterday , Dhoni and Raina started bowling after the lunch . Oru match ban aana ippo enna

I was really tired, asked Dhoni for a break: Ishant

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9364287.cms

From: MADDY on 26th July 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

India thotadhuku feel pannamadhirye theriyala.

yea, Dhoni shocked me when he said "I'm happy with the way we played in last 5 days" - i presume that's a sarcastic comment on the haphazard planning by BCCI for such a key tour.........except for Dravid and Ishant's performance, the attitude of players was pretty alarming.......they were giving in to England pretty much willingly without a fight - something is seriously wrong with this outfit - i think we maybe looking at a whitewash.....

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 05:03 PM [Full View]

Indha slow over rate ban paththi konjam explain pannunga. If the over rate is slow for 3 consecutive matches, 1 match ban-aa? enna formula?

RR- England-la idhu thaan first-u match Bhajjikku. WI tour-la he crossed the magic 400 milestone and adhanaala ella kuRaigaLum maRakkapadum, mannikkapadum. MSN carries an article- From Bad to worse-nnu. Adhula Bhajji should not play the next test, show him the temporary door-nnu pOtrukku. Onnum nadakka pOradhilla eppadiyum.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 26th July 2011 05:11 PM [Full View]

Question to annan Plum :

When "Ryan Giggs" was not allowed to play in Inglis National Team (football) simply becasue he was "Welsh" rather than "Inglis". How can the Inglis IX team have S.Africans/Irish Players ?

Football Selection ku oru Sattam, Cricket selection ku enoru sattam ah? Vonly Ingland Fossible!

From: hamid on 26th July 2011 05:19 PM [Full View]

Scorps,

If a team is found to be bowling their quota of bovers slowly thrice within a year, their captain will be banned for one match.. we had two occasions already.. the second was in WI and this is the third occasion..

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th July 2011 05:24 PM [Full View]

Hamid,

Match referee has informed that India is fine with the over rates in this test. Dhoni is playing in next match.

From: kid-glove on 26th July 2011 05:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Question to annan Plum :

When "Ryan Giggs" was not allowed to play in Inglis National Team (football) simply becasue he was "Welsh" rather than "Inglis". How can the Inglis IX team have S.Africans/Irish Players ?

Football Selection ku oru Sattam, Cricket selection ku enoru sattam ah? Vonly Ingland Fossible!

No, there are examples of England footballers with Welsh/Scottish/Irish roots in the past.

It's not as bad as say Senegalese, Turks, Algerians who had opted to play for their migrated countries.

There are Brazlians who represent other nations once they get citizenship. Marcos Senna, anyone?

From: hamid on 26th July 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Hamid,

Match referee has informed that India is fine with the over rates in this test. Dhoni is playing in next match.

Oh..thanks for the info LM.. During the match I saw that the over rate was 13.something after decudting the extra delays. Ganguly was at the commentary and said Dhoni will be banned..
anyway.. if Match refree said this fine then.. this is good news.. but I am sick of this half strength Indian team getting beaten by the english.. would love the full strength team to play.. I only hope Dhoni is not banned when Viru and Zak returns with full fitness.. let us see..what sthe news about Gambir/Sachin;s illness? any info? we have only 3 days in between..

From: raghavendran on 26th July 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

yea, Dhoni shocked me when he said "I'm happy with the way we played in last 5 days" - i presume that's a sarcastic comment on the haphazard planning by BCCI for such a key tour.........except for Dravid and Ishant's performance, the attitude of players was pretty alarming.......they were giving in to England pretty much willingly without a fight - something is seriously wrong with this outfit - i think we maybe looking at a whitewash.....

yeah...in the balcony also..when we were losing wickets at the end..laxman and co were having a laugh...may be for a different reason but it was not sending good signals..thimira irundha madhiri irundhidhi...as i said..unless we win in england and australia...we adont deserved to be called a no.1 side in the world...ippo srilankadhan second bestnu sonna epdi irukko its the same IMO...

From: raajarasigan on 26th July 2011 05:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Hamid,

Match referee has informed that India is fine with the over rates in this test. Dhoni is playing in next match.

ithula Michael Holding vera statement vittrukkar.. "show me the match referee who is brave enough to ban Dhoni for slow over rate"nnu...

From: raghavendran on 26th July 2011 05:58 PM [Full View]

RR
Micky vandhu..logicala idikudhu...the referee says the over rate is plus 1 by India..thats not loggical,oru 50 rupee calculator kamchirumgraru..."i will be the last man to ban Dhoni" apdinu nakkal vidrar..

From: kid-glove on 26th July 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

It's irritating to see Holding being contracted to speak like an English partisan.. Death to British Press, Sky, Murdoch family..

From: raghavendran on 26th July 2011 06:25 PM [Full View]

i still remember the way Holding praised SRT in the 136 against pak in chennai...especially when he sweeps saqlain..ippo enna aachu..

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 06:34 PM [Full View]

Thanks Hamid.

First match-la sodhapuradhum next match-la nalla aadaradhum namakku vazhakkam dhaan. Hope for the best.

From: Dinesh84 on 26th July 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

Harbhajan will take a haul of 15 wickets in next match and prove all wrong who asked for his removal..

From: Dinesh84 on 26th July 2011 06:46 PM [Full View]

Fletcher as coach.. Bad signs starting to show..

From: sathya_1979 on 26th July 2011 06:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Dinesh84

Harbhajan will take a haul of 15 wickets in next match and prove all wrong who asked for his removal..

............

From: MADDY on 26th July 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

It's irritating to see Holding being contracted to speak like an English partisan.. Death to British Press, Sky, Murdoch family..

honestly, entire world cricket is against India - except for odd Zimbabwe, SA boards........even the ever-friendly SL board are not having good terms with us...........and ex-players ellam sollave venaam, kola veri on India

From: scorpio on 26th July 2011 07:05 PM [Full View]

namma thalai ezhuthu, idha ella padikka vEndi irukku

India don't value their No.1 status: Nasser Hussain

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...nasser-hussain

In scathing criticism of India's performance in the opening Test against England, former English captain Nasser Hussain said Mahendra Singh Dhoni's men don't seem to value their number one status given how under-prepared they looked in the match.

"I am so pleased that England won because they set the perfect template on how you should prepare for and then perform in a very important game of Test cricket."

"India were exactly the opposite. They just turned up with totally inadequate preparation and expected everything to be alright on the night. Do they not value their status as the best Test team in the world? They did not seem to here," Hussain wrote in the 'Daily Mail'.

Hussain said England have had the best possible preparation for the series and it is now showing in their performance.

"Everything that England have done this summer has been geared towards making sure their players are as ready as possible for this Test series, including Andrew Strauss playing at Taunton and Stuart Broad playing for Notts," he said.

"In contrast, India expected their top strike bowler in Zaheer Khan and their premier batsman in Sachin Tendulkar to rock up without playing a Test since January and just have a bit of a hit and giggle against Somerset before the big one. They did not help themselves," he added.

Hussain said the English team is in such fine form that India were perhaps not ready for them.

"India simply were not ready for them in this game. India have real issues. Zaheer is injured, quite probably because his body was not right for this game, and it is difficult to see how he can play in the second Test," he said.

"After that match India just have a two-day game at Northants to get ready for the third Test, when they will again have little opportunity to get themselves right for the second half of the series. What's going on with them?" he asked.

Hussain also criticised the Indian Cricket Board's insistence on not having the LBWs covered under the Decision Review System.

"For us to have a halfway house, mish-mash of a decision review system in this series has been driven by India and frankly it's confusing and pathetic. Either we have the full system or we don't use it at all. Let's not say we can have HotSpot because India like it but we can't have Hawk-Eye because they don't," he said.

From: Death Note on 26th July 2011 07:10 PM [Full View]

Trott no. 2 batsmen and Anderson no. 2 bowler in ICC rankings.

Tendulker drops to 4th and Pietersen climbs 15 places to 14th.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 26th July 2011 07:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

namma thalai ezhuthu, idha ella padikka vEndi irukku

India don't value their No.1 status: Nasser Hussain

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...nasser-hussain

In scathing criticism of India's performance in the opening Test against England, former English captain Nasser Hussain said Mahendra Singh Dhoni's men don't seem to value their number one status given how under-prepared they looked in the match.

"I am so pleased that England won because they set the perfect template on how you should prepare for and then perform in a very important game of Test cricket."

"India were exactly the opposite. They just turned up with totally inadequate preparation and expected everything to be alright on the night. Do they not value their status as the best Test team in the world? They did not seem to here," Hussain wrote in the 'Daily Mail'.

Hussain said England have had the best possible preparation for the series and it is now showing in their performance.

"Everything that England have done this summer has been geared towards making sure their players are as ready as possible for this Test series, including Andrew Strauss playing at Taunton and Stuart Broad playing for Notts," he said.

"In contrast, India expected their top strike bowler in Zaheer Khan and their premier batsman in Sachin Tendulkar to rock up without playing a Test since January and just have a bit of a hit and giggle against Somerset before the big one. They did not help themselves," he added.

Hussain said the English team is in such fine form that India were perhaps not ready for them.

"India simply were not ready for them in this game. India have real issues. Zaheer is injured, quite probably because his body was not right for this game, and it is difficult to see how he can play in the second Test," he said.

"After that match India just have a two-day game at Northants to get ready for the third Test, when they will again have little opportunity to get themselves right for the second half of the series. What's going on with them?" he asked.

Hussain also criticised the Indian Cricket Board's insistence on not having the LBWs covered under the Decision Review System.

"For us to have a halfway house, mish-mash of a decision review system in this series has been driven by India and frankly it's confusing and pathetic. Either we have the full system or we don't use it at all. Let's not say we can have HotSpot because India like it but we can't have Hawk-Eye because they don't," he said.

Quite a lot of commentators have had to eat humble pie after delivering statements like these.Nasser hussain is no exception.He looks more like an english version of keppler wessels for me.Just one test match has finished, mind you.I am quite positive that india will bounce back in the series to draw level if not win it.....

From: wizzy on 26th July 2011 07:20 PM [Full View]

Whatever Nass has said is true..you can't have players coming into a match against a future no.1 team without match practice. There is a huge gulf in class between the teams..can't see India avoiding a whitewash unless rain interrupts. Hope Zk/Sehwag be fit in time for the next IPL and the weed continues to show his emotional leadership by making it large.
Expect media to blame Fletcher for the defeat..we won the test series last time in Eng without a coach

From: SoftSword on 26th July 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

all these rubs and bruises will get the fire burning for sure...
feeling confident a bit for the further tests.

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th July 2011 08:10 PM [Full View]

Whitewash

India will draw the series

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 26th July 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Whatever Nass has said is true..you can't have players coming into a match against a future no.1 team without match practice. There is a huge gulf in class between the teams..can't see India avoiding a whitewash unless rain interrupts. Hope Zk/Sehwag be fit in time for the next IPL and the weed continues to show his emotional leadership by making it large.
Expect media to blame Fletcher for the defeat..we won the test series last time in Eng without a coach

This england team doesn't look unbeatable to me. Its just that we didnt play to our standards in the test match.....ishanth bowling poorly in the first innings, bad fielding, batsmen not coming to the fore when needed...dravid is an exception though but played a dire shot to get out in the second innings...an over defensive tendulkar. If we just iron out these rough edges by the start of the next test match we have a chance to win the match. wrt india getting whitewashed i dont think thats even remotely possible. Pretty optimistic of india's chances in the remaining tests

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 26th July 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Whitewash

India will draw the series

i cant believe people actually believe that this present english team is a class apart.....tbh they would not even come close to winning a series if they toured india

From: VinodKumar's on 26th July 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9364287.cms

Nethae en frnd sonnan. Ishanth oru 3 over spell try pannirukalamae

From: vanchi on 26th July 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

Even after the f&&&& "have i made it large"

is performing like shit, why Dhoni has positive words for him him. or is it sarcasm as compared to swann.

& he thinks he is viru for attempting shots like that, for the love of mike. stupid moron.

It is time to shut the **** up of this english communaties who blabber.
it really sucks to loose to them.

From: venkkiram on 26th July 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

பிராக்டிஸ் பண்ணாம போனா இப்படி தோத்துவிடுகிறோம். நெட் பிராக்டிஸ் பண்ண ஆரம்பித்தால் அப்போதும் ஒருத்தர் ரெண்டு பேருக்கு அடிபட்டுரும். நம்மாளுக நெலமைதான் பரிதாபம். பிராக்டிசும் செய்யாம, டெஸ்டையும் ஜெயிக்கணும்.

From: wizzy on 26th July 2011 10:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

This england team doesn't look unbeatable to me. Its just that we didnt play to our standards in the test match.....ishanth bowling poorly in the first innings, bad fielding, batsmen not coming to the fore when needed...dravid is an exception though but played a dire shot to get out in the second innings...an over defensive tendulkar. If we just iron out these rough edges by the start of the next test match we have a chance to win the match. wrt india getting whitewashed i dont think thats even remotely possible. Pretty optimistic of india's chances in the remaining tests

India couldn't reach 300 on a flattest Lords pitch..check out how other visiting teams stacked up runs here. This Eng team doesn't have any kinks..next match they might drop Morgan and bring in Bresnan to compound our problems. Without Zaheer we are a two man attack with weed in the team..I can't see India picking 20 wickets in this series.

From: VinodKumar's on 26th July 2011 11:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

India couldn't reach 300 on a flattest Lords pitch..check out how other visiting teams stacked up runs here. This Eng team doesn't have any kinks..next match they might drop Morgan and bring in Bresnan to compound our problems. Without Zaheer we are a two man attack with weed in the team..I can't see India picking 20 wickets in this series.

Leave Zaheer ... If Ishanth continues to bowl like "pre-lunch" spell and having fit fourth bowler (Sreesanth - appo appo oru ball koodava nalla poda maataan) in the team would be more than enuf to get 20 English wickets. Mishra vum sethuta gummu. Second test la irunthu namma batsmen sollavae theva illa. Run mazhai pozhiyum.

Second test is the key. We should not let them to win. Anga jeyichuputaangana series la irunthu velila vanthuralam.

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 27th July 2011 12:27 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Why does Sachin go into a shell whenever we play for a draw? Not for a single time it worked and we have always seen him getting out after playing like this. Only he knows the answer

+1. First innings-la super-a aadittu irundhaapla (until he got out). Second innings-la thadava aarambicha udaneye kelambiduvaarunnu thonuchu

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From: Puliyan_Biryani on 27th July 2011 12:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Leave Zaheer ... If Ishanth continues to bowl like "pre-lunch" spell and having fit fourth bowler (Sreesanth - appo appo oru ball koodava nalla poda maataan) in the team would be more than enuf to get 20 English wickets. Mishra vum sethuta gummu. Second test la irunthu namma batsmen sollavae theva illa. Run mazhai pozhiyum.

Second test is the key. We should not let them to win. Anga jeyichuputaangana series la irunthu velila vanthuralam.

Very very unlikely that Sreesanth will play. One of the main complaints against him is that he takes a lot of time (~6-7 mins) to complete his overs. Terror fast bowler Munaf Patel would be playing, I think. Sreesanth could've been quite a handful in these pitches

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From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 03:45 AM [Full View]

If i am not wrong lm Previously you said India will win this series.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Whitewash

India will draw the series

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 04:16 AM [Full View]

It's almost sure Zaheer khan will not be available for the 2nd test.

From: VinodKumar's on 27th July 2011 07:28 AM [Full View]

Sreesanth is the replacement

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:17 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

India will draw the series

pathadungren
i am sure that we will atleast win 1 test...but as world no.1 we have to win the series...that too after winning last time..

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 08:53 AM [Full View]

England warrant top spot over India - Allan Donald

South Africa pace legend Allan Donald says England deserve to overtake India as the number one Test-playing nation.

India currently top the rankings but will be replaced by England if Andrew Strauss's men win the ongoing four-Test series by two matches or more.

"England deserve to be the number one, there's no question about it," Donald told BBC Radio 5 live.

"They are a good side, they're progressing every game. They're progressing as a really good unit."

England lead the series 1-0 after a 196-run victory in the first Test at Lord's.

Kevin Pietersen's first-innings 202 not out earned him the man of the match award, while Matt Prior hit an unbeaten 103 in the second.

But it was the bowlers who particularly caught Donald's eye as a previously out-of-sorts Stuart Broad returned match figures of 7-94 and James Anderson weighed in with 7-152.

When asked if England possessed the best pace attack in the world at present, Donald replied: "There's no question.

"Chris Tremlett, Broad, Anderson and Graeme Swann are fantastic. Then you've got a few more in the bank - Tim Bresnan still in the wings.

"It's amazing how the guys have grown since 2007. Anderson has led the attack with absolute disdain, Broad has gone through a few ups and downs of late.

"It's good to see him really back and firing, bowling really well with a lot of aggression too.

"It's nice to know you've got this current crop who are playing and you've also got a few youngsters in the wings as well.

Donald, who took 330 Test and 272 one-day international wickets and briefly worked with England's bowlers in 2007, felt India were "ripe for the picking" at Lord's but feels they will definitely respond, with the second Test starting at Trent Bridge on Friday.

"India will find a way and [coach] Duncan Fletcher will dig very, very deep to his charges," the 44-year-old added. "This is a wake-up call to them.

"Number one is number one but it might not be for very long. They will come back. [Pace bowler] Zaheer Khan is key to their success.

"If he's fit and raring to go [after a hamstring injury], he might have a bit to say in the second Test."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/14298078.stm

From: sathya_1979 on 27th July 2011 09:05 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Whatever Nass has said is true..you can't have players coming into a match against a future no.1 team without match practice. There is a huge gulf in class between the teams..can't see India avoiding a whitewash unless rain interrupts. Hope Zk/Sehwag be fit in time for the next IPL and the weed continues to show his emotional leadership by making it large.
Expect media to blame Fletcher for the defeat..we won the test series last time in Eng without a coach

Plum?

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 09:21 AM [Full View]

I didn't want to bring this before here but what Maddy says is infinitely true. In the net the amount of hate BCCI/Dhoni/sachin have received for their UDRS stance is humongous. A peek into places like cricinfo(which has become worse than rediff)and youtube is alarming. And this hate has increased exponentially since we have won the WC also. That we have the Test 1 rank and the fact that we managed to have it for 19 months on a roll unlike SA who could manage it only for 4 months also hasn't gone kindly with anyone.

BCCI's financial might has almost got everybody off guard. Ever since the T20 WC win and the advent of IPL we bring in like 70 or more of the cricket revenue. This could be a decisive factor. BCCI should work more on its PR efforts. It has generated the most hate from every tom dick harry from the cricketing world for its UDRS Stance. Atleast they could have been more diplomatic in their stance unlike their out right rebuttals over the last 3 years. This was what I kept shouting here. Naadharithanam pannalum namakku naasooka panna theriyala. Boards wise, Aus boards/fans have been at loggerheads ever since the Sydney fiasco. ECB wants more of Indian money and hence have filled their schedules over the next 2 years with Indian fixtures but they have never liked BCCIs might. SL board must have been absolutely gutted when BCCI pulled its players away from SLPL, a move which would have pissed off SL supporters very well.

CSA kittae irukkara relation ayavadhu olunga vechukitta seri.

Originally Posted by MADDY

honestly, entire world cricket is against India - except for odd Zimbabwe, SA boards........even the ever-friendly SL board are not having good terms with us...........and ex-players ellam sollave venaam, kola veri on India

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 09:41 AM [Full View]

Ok guys assuming Zaheer won't be available for the 2nd test match what would your playing XI be?. Mine would be like this

Mukund, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Lax, Raina, Dhoni, Sreesanth, Ishanth, Praveen and Mishra

or

Yuvraj(I know this can backfire but this way we can add another spinner), Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Lax, Raina, Dhoni, Sreesanth, Ishanth, Praveen and Munaf/Mishra.

I believe we have to go with 4 full bowlers to even have a chance of drawing the next match which is very very important.

From: satissh_r on 27th July 2011 10:59 AM [Full View]

David Lloyd on air during the 1st test said the English team do not discuss Harbhajan as a threat, it is Zaheer Khan they worry about the most. But I don't see Dhoni or the Indian team management dropping Harbhajan for the 2nd test..

From: Plum on 27th July 2011 11:25 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I didn't want to bring this before here but what Maddy says is infinitely true. In the net the amount of hate BCCI/Dhoni/sachin have received for their UDRS stance is humongous. A peek into places like cricinfo(which has become worse than rediff)and youtube is alarming
. And this hate has increased exponentially since we have won the WC also. That we have the Test 1 rank and the fact that we managed to have it for 19 months on a roll unlike SA who could manage it only for 4 months also hasn't gone kindly with anyone.

BCCI's financial might has almost got everybody off guard. Ever since the T20 WC win and the advent of IPL we bring in like 70 or more of the cricket revenue. This could be a decisive factor. BCCI should work more on its PR efforts. It has generated the most hate from every tom dick harry from the cricketing world for its UDRS Stance. Atleast they could have been more diplomatic in their stance unlike their out right rebuttals over the last 3 years. This was what I kept shouting here. Naadharithanam pannalum namakku naasooka panna theriyala. Boards wise, Aus boards/fans have been at loggerheads ever since the Sydney fiasco. ECB wants more of Indian money and hence have filled their schedules over the next 2 years with Indian fixtures but they have never liked BCCIs might. SL board must have been absolutely gutted when BCCI pulled its players away from SLPL, a move which would have pissed off SL supporters very well.

CSA kittae irukkara relation ayavadhu olunga vechukitta seri.

idhai thAnE nAn thirumba thirumba solli kitturukkEn. Asian-Asian bhai bhai. We should remain tightly knit and woo Bangla and Lanka aggressively, we should also keep throwing crumbs at PCB.

BCCI is evil - but not in the way English and aussie poRamai pidicha supporters have been portraying. Those fellers need to be shut up.

They are up to their divide-and-rule tricks again - note that it is an English firm that kombu seevified SLCB into starting SLPL and creating conflict between SL and Indian boards. nassokkA nAdhARithanam pandrAnga.

Dhoni has been impressively strong in the face of propoganda from English/Aussie media, who did a dirty job on him with Harper. He needs to. Unfortunately, the poor results in the current ongoing England tour will undermine his authority and make it easier for these folks to chip at him succesfully.

I have never before wanted Dhoni to succeed so badly. Perhaps, that is why he has started to lose

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th July 2011 11:46 AM [Full View]

Zaheer's injury changed the equation

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

If i am not wrong lm Previously you said India will win this series.

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 11:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Plum?

listen to this..you would think India are ranked no. 8 and England are no.1

http://podcasts.skysports.com/podcas...ters240711.mp3

From: scorpio on 27th July 2011 11:56 AM [Full View]

Yaar enna sonnalum Bhajji will definitely play the second test. yErkanavE chief seamer illa, idhula main spinner-um illaama India will never take the field.

From: Plum on 27th July 2011 12:06 PM [Full View]

Yes, yes. Bhajji will play. Matthew Hayden in IPL. Bhajji in tests. Dhoni's blind spot almost cost him a IPL title and looks like this time, Dhoni's luck will run out and the unbeaten record in test series will be snatched from him.

It's okay. You can't go through your captaincy career undefeated even in a single series. No shame in losing to this English side, which is outstanding.

But India will win this series 2-1.

(Mr Destiny, I hope you are confused enough - you have been reading my mind quite sharply these days, and succesfully executing the opposite result. Let's see how you figure that

)

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 12:07 PM [Full View]

He will be available from the 3rd test.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Zaheer's injury changed the equation

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 12:07 PM [Full View]

Yuvi's record away from home for past 4 years

This guy is a disaster. Dhoni does the right thing. You don't need him when you already have Raina! If Dhoni is hellbent on including his friend, then he should drop himself.

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 12:28 PM [Full View]

Maddy,
Holding "was" kind to India many times in Sky's coverage (of WC & SA series) & Cricket AM shows.

But when it's England vs India, Hyde comes out of him. Rem. 2007, Hypocritically questioned Sreesanth's intentions in bowling a beamer to KP. Holding gets paid to speak in England's interest by Sky.

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 12:30 PM [Full View]

Now they're getting Sanjay Manjrekar to speak for India. I really pity him to put up with Athers, Nass, Vaughn, Beefy, Knight, Lloyd & others. Except for Gower, he'be all lonely in that studio.

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 12:32 PM [Full View]

Weeds notice to Dhoni's ad which mocked him was a masterstroke..Dhoni can't drop him even if he picks less wickets than Raina..weed could always count on his PR firm to turn the heat on Dhoni..The PR firm Rhiti Sports has Dhoni and the weed in their payroll..this PR firm is in good terms with TOI which inturn makes sure Shastri/Gavaskar to go soft on the weed by giving lame excuses for his non-performance in tv/TOI column. This is a vicious circle.

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th July 2011 12:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

He will be available from the 3rd test.

We need to win the next match to have any hopes of winning the series. Without Zaheer, it's going to be little tough. Let's see.

From: jinju on 27th July 2011 02:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Now they're getting Sanjay Manjrekar to speak for India. I really pity him to put up with Athers, Nass, Vaughn, Beefy, Knight, Lloyd & others. Except for Gower, he'be all lonely in that studio.

ivangellam evvalavu mukkinaalum athu mattum nadakkaadhu.

From: Plum on 27th July 2011 02:33 PM [Full View]

I always have a doubt if Manju had a sister or someone whom he hoped to get married off to Tendul(like Gavaskar-Viswanath) and started speaking against him when that didn't happen.
Because I think there was a sharp change in the way he spoke about Tendul - I remember this clearly as initially, my impresssion of Manjay Sanjrekar was as a chela of Tendul, and later suddenly, it changed completely and he started giving left-handed compliments, and vicious criticism hidden in platitudes.

From: Plum on 27th July 2011 02:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Weeds notice to Dhoni's ad which mocked him was a masterstroke..Dhoni can't drop him even if he picks less wickets than Raina..weed could always count on his PR firm to turn the heat on Dhoni..The PR firm Rhiti Sports has Dhoni and the weed in their payroll..this PR firm is in good terms with TOI which inturn makes sure Shastri/Gavaskar to go soft on the weed by giving
lame excuses for his non-performance in tv/TOI column. This is a vicious circle.

Wizzy, nInga yAru? ungaL sEvai indha forumlku thEvai. I have always suspected this nexus but nInga vevarathOda correctA pEsaRInga..

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 02:39 PM [Full View]

Sanjay Manjrekar is a Dhoni fan though. So I expect him to stand up for Indhiya..

From: SoftSword on 27th July 2011 03:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Weeds notice to Dhoni's ad which mocked him was a masterstroke..Dhoni can't drop him even if he picks less wickets than Raina..weed could always count on his PR firm to turn the heat on Dhoni..The PR firm Rhiti Sports has Dhoni and the weed in their payroll..this PR firm is in good terms with TOI which inturn makes sure Shastri/Gavaskar to go soft on the weed by giving lame excuses for his non-performance in tv/TOI column. This is a vicious circle.

more exhaggerated...
in the battle wat will dhoni and bhajji lose?
bhajji may risk his career and comfort in the team... but wat does dhoni lose? money? fame? liquor brand t shirts?

From: jinju on 27th July 2011 03:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I always have a doubt if Manju had a sister or someone whom he hoped to get married off to Tendul(like Gavaskar-Viswanath) and started speaking against him when that didn't happen.
Because I think there was a sharp change in the way he spoke about Tendul - I remember this clearly as initially, my impresssion of Manjay Sanjrekar was as a chela of Tendul, and later suddenly, it changed completely and he started giving left-handed compliments, and vicious criticism hidden in platitudes.

ya, me too had this feeling that he's SRT's chela, like kambli. but i remember sanjay manjrekar saying that 'it was not the Indian team environment that was there before, when i went back in, so i felt it best to retire' or something to that effect. i believe dravid took sanjay's place in Tests after sanjay got injured or dropped(?), he expected SRT to back him like kambli did too, estra estra(he used to criticize rahul too at every given opportunity, but later has written articles on dravid, albeit grudgingly).

btb, today's cricinfo has an article by sanjay manjrekar...he has some points there, though.

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 03:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Sanjay Manjrekar is a Dhoni fan though. So I expect him to stand up for Indhiya..

Manju kurup hates Sachin with passion and praises Dhoni's captaincy to settle his petty scores.
He even went to the extent of claiming Sachin faked injuries and also in a cricinfo talk show with chappeli opined that Sachin should be dropped from odis after 2007..Manju is a Salieri

Ganguly is having his Salieri moments in the combox by belittling India's top position in tests Ganguly is doing a Sanju on Dhoni..small world

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 03:23 PM [Full View]

Wizzy,
Yes it's all obvious I thought.
There's not a commentator/pundit without an agenda & a narrative to stick by.

Sanjay wants Indian team to retain test position & Dhoni to come out on tops. You could sense that in every single video/podcast he did for Cricinfo..

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

more exhaggerated...
in the battle wat will dhoni and bhajji lose?
bhajji may risk his career and comfort in the team... but wat does dhoni lose? money? fame? liquor brand t shirts?

some qs to ponder upon
1. Why is Ashwin despite being a trump card for csk/good domestic for TN ..is always given a cold shoulder when it comes to Indian team?
2. Why RP singh name is/was always pushed to be selected and Irfan Pathan overlooked?
3. Why did Dhoni threaten to quit over the above issue?
The PR firm is more powerful than cheeka

From: SoftSword on 27th July 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

thats all a diff issue...
am only speakin abt ur post sounding like dhoni's kudumi in bhajji's hand after he sent the legal notice.

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 04:13 PM [Full View]

Weed if dropped(highly unlikely) can cite this legal notice as the reason for him losing the favour with the skipper thus his form with the ball. Dhoni is in a catch-22 situation. Also when was the last time the weed was dropped from the team?
All the senior players barring Sachin have been dropped for lack of form.

From: SoftSword on 27th July 2011 04:20 PM [Full View]

atleast for next two years dhoni would be very influential in team selections and bhajji would not spoil his terms with dhoni even if he is dropped for a test...
and even if he is dropped, the whole world knows the real reason and his citing of personal tiff with dhoni would not get votes majorly...
even if he cites, it would not harm dhoni much here...

From: sathya_1979 on 27th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Media and Ad-firms are more powerful than any player

From: SoftSword on 27th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

andha equationlaam naan kaekkalai...
i don agree that harbhajan is holding dhoni's kudumi...

From: sathya_1979 on 27th July 2011 05:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

andha equationlaam naan kaekkalai...
i don agree that harbhajan is holding dhoni's kudumi...

maybe maybe not

From: 19thmay on 27th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

India is playing like India, neengale 1st rank koduthuttu extra-va expect pannina eppdi?? And this how we start the series

Opening partnership is the major concern. Last time we had Jaffer/Karthik played decently and we miss Sehwag this time.

No Sehwag, Injured Zaheer, Gambhir, Unfit Sachin - idhellam orey match-lana eppdipaaaa...

Ishant's firing spell on day 4 first session was the only moment where I thought something favoring India adhuvum Prior-Broad partnership-la pOchu....

From: 19thmay on 27th July 2011 07:20 PM [Full View]

And I agree with AF, if we lose rank 1 its because of the IPL.

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 07:23 PM [Full View]

obviously Dhoni is giving a very huge unnecessary leniency to Bhajji and some personal reasons cannot be ruled out.........but the ad firm-Dhoni-bhajji-sunny-ravi nexus seems a nicely made tabloid story because of the very fact that its not just Sunny and Ravi supporting Bhajji, even Ganguly and other commentators are not saying anything against bhajji, if im not wrong.......even in MI team, Sachin never looks at dropping bhajji, watever may be his performance........i think it requires a better fact finding to reveal secret to bhajji's continued immunity but surely this has been one of the worst "open favoritism" we have seen in Indian cricket history.......

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

BCCI should work more on its PR efforts. It has generated the most hate from every tom dick harry from the cricketing world for its UDRS Stance. Atleast they could have been more diplomatic in their stance unlike their out right rebuttals over the last 3 years. This was what I kept shouting here. Naadharithanam pannalum namakku naasooka panna theriyala.

BCCI is run by people who are so short-sighted and money minded that they dont care abt these things......their only motive is to make money and if any opposition arises, they will beat it with money - namma dhaan polambittu irukkom.......but i fear, a day when all the boards are going to sideline India......

From: Plum on 27th July 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

Yes, it surpasses Ajit Agarkar's cokcroach like survival through captaincy changes from Tendulkar to Ganguly to Dravid. I think he also played under Azhar?

From: 19thmay on 27th July 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

Actually my ex-boss used to show lot of favoritism to one of my colleague, payyan thaan. He gets best rating every appraisal, minimum of 40% hike. Visarichu paartha andha payyanuku oru kozhi pannai oorula iruku adhulla ennoda boss-um oru partner-aam.

Endha puthula endha kOzhiyo?

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Now they're getting Sanjay Manjrekar to speak for India. I really pity him to put up with Athers, Nass, Vaughn, Beefy, Knight, Lloyd & others. Except for Gower, he'be all lonely in that studio.

actually manjarekar is the most anit-indian commentator..oru indo pak match vandha just listen how he speaks..these english commentators are much better except for hussain...
but i guess still the most lovable "champions" are the west indies..not australia for sure...and the kind of bashing India is getting,surely they wont be liked or celebrated as the windies team if they become the undisputed champions

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 07:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Yes, it surpasses Ajit Agarkar's cokcroach like survival through captaincy changes from Tendulkar to Ganguly to Dravid. I think he also played under Azhar?

yes he debuted in indo-aus series in 1998 under Azhar..but harbhajan madhiri teamla thongi thongi 400 wickets edukura talent avanukku illa pavam....a guy who doesnt deserve one bit to be in that elite 400 club...Dhoni

..oru point negativea sonnadhu kidayadhu..i thought Dhoni is different from other captains but he is also a victim of politics,partiality,favouritism etc...

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 07:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

actually manjarekar is the most anit-indian commentator..oru indo pak match vandha just listen how he speaks..these english commentators are much better except for hussain...
but i guess still the most lovable "champions" are the west indies..not australia for sure...and the kind of bashing India is getting,surely they wont be liked or celebrated as the windies team if they become the undisputed champions

Yes. But he's going to be hired to speak up for India. Much like Azhar Mehmood (who had never supported Pakistan but only whinged) to stand up for Pakistan. That way, they will force these guys to concede how England are the no.1 team. From native's own mouth.

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Yes, it surpasses Ajit Agarkar's cokcroach like survival through captaincy changes from Tendulkar to Ganguly to Dravid. I think he also played under Azhar?

He got debuted under Azhar

But he was really good in his first year of international cricket. Only after his injury during NZ tour in 1999, he went on a decline. IMO, Agarkar was hated more than what he deserved.

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

but i guess still the most lovable "champions" are the west indies..not australia for sure...and the kind of bashing India is getting,surely they wont be liked or celebrated as the windies team if they become the undisputed champions

i think thats just a myth........they were equally dastardly during their peak.......the WI gamesmanship we see is from Walshs, Ambroses and Laras of 90s - adhukku munnadi avingalayum avalava yaarukkum pudikkaadhu........

http://www.sportskeeda.com/2011/07/1...the-caribbean/

Lloyd gave a free licence to Andy ‘Hit Man’ Roberts and Michael ‘Whispering Death’ Holdings, when they bowled against a visiting Indian side in 76. That series left several Indian batsmen battered and bruised from the intimidating fast bouncers. As a sign of protest, India’s captain Bishen Singh Bedi surrendered the test fearing for the safety of his men.

Under Lloyd’s leadership, West Indies grew in strength using both fear and intimidation, to fuel their aggression for annihilating any batting line-up that stood against their wrath.

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

oh..is he going to work for sky sports or star cricket?...cos in star cricket we already have harsha,sunny,ravi,wasim,saurav..all speaking for india..

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i think thats just a myth........they were equally dastardly during their peak.......the WI gamesmanship we see is from Walshs, Ambroses and Laras of 90s - adhukku munnadi avingalayum avalava yaarukkum pudikkaadhu........

http://www.sportskeeda.com/2011/07/1...the-caribbean/

i think thats the way they play their cricket..agression form fast bowlers is something different,all bowlers had that those days except Indians..thats inbuilt in their nature......its different from what sreesanth,harbhajan,agarkar or mcgrath or a lee does,their cricket was aggresive..have heard from many commentators like Botham,gavaskar,Imran khan etc that how much the Windies were loved..India unfortunately is the powerhouse of cricket..so obviously the the less powerful countries wont like us..aussies were completely different..that was obvoius

From: venkkiram on 27th July 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

To cut it short, Mishra should play the next match - says Akram

"Harbhajan looked off-colour at Lord's. He got very little spin, his line was also very bad. On the other hand, Graeme Swann bowled beautifully. He showed a lot of variation," Akram said.

"I do not remember one occasion when he bowled a bad ball. I think it's about time that Mishra came in. English batsmen have traditionally been poor against leg-spinners. Besides, Mishra is a very intelligent bowler. I saw him bowling in the IPL and he impressed me a lot.

I don't think Zaheer should play at Trent Bridge if he is not fully fit. India missed him dearly in the Lord's Test. There is no point going in with an unfit player. There is a warm-up coming up against Northants after the second Test and he should eye that. "If he bowls without any pain, he should return to the eleven for the third Test,

Well said Akram.

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 08:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

i think thats the way they play their cricket..agression form fast bowlers is something different,all bowlers had that those days except Indians..thats inbuilt in their nature......its different from what sreesanth,harbhajan,agarkar or mcgrath or a lee does,their cricket was aggresive..have heard from many commentators like Botham,gavaskar,Imran khan etc that how much the Windies were loved..India unfortunately is the powerhouse of cricket..so obviously the the less powerful countries wont like us..aussies were completely different..that was obvoius

did u see the picture on that link, enuf said.....

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

ball ala adikiranga..i think u r referring to that?...adhan bat kudithirkangala..Gavaskar,Z.Abbas,Gooch etc...are players who have handled their bowling and have scored tons of runs....thats between bat and ball.....FAST BOWLERSna ipdidhan irukanum oru grammer set pannadhe andha teamdhan....thats the test those days....thereal test..its different from what aussies do and Indians can never be that team...

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

obviously Dhoni is giving a very huge unnecessary leniency to Bhajji and some personal reasons cannot be ruled out.........but the ad firm-Dhoni-bhajji-sunny-ravi nexus seems a nicely made tabloid story because of the very fact that its not just Sunny and Ravi supporting Bhajji, even Ganguly and other commentators are not saying anything against bhajji, if im not wrong.......even in MI team, Sachin never looks at dropping bhajji, watever may be his performance........i think it requires a better fact finding to reveal secret to bhajji's continued immunity but surely this has been one of the worst "open favoritism" we have seen in Indian cricket history.......

Ganguly was scathing on weeds line of attack/defensive field set..he even conceded Swann was the no.1 spinner/India not the true no.1 in Aajtak. Weeds career would have ended if not for Sachin during the monkey episode...also have hindustan times/toi ever written a piece critising our senior spinner? Why was the yahoo columnist pulled up for writing a piece on weeds ineffectiveness for the past 4 years?

I ask you the same qs which I asked softsword

1. Why is Ashwin despite being a trump card for csk/good domestic for TN ..is always given a cold shoulder when it comes to Indian team?
2. Why RP singh name is/was always pushed to be selected and Irfan Pathan overlooked?
3. Why did Dhoni threaten to quit over the above issue?

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 08:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

ball ala adikiranga..i think u r referring to that?...adhan bat kudithirkangala..Gavaskar,Z.Abbas,Gooch etc...are players who have handled their bowling and have scored tons of runs....thats between bat and ball.....FAST BOWLERSna ipdidhan irukanum oru grammer set pannadhe andha teamdhan....thats the test those days....thereal test..its different from what aussies do and Indians can never be that team...

then bodyline is also fair in ur view.......im not a fan of such physical attacks and i wouldnt want India to be like them.........to my mind, India under Dhoni is a much likable team than Llyods team.......

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Since there wasn't proper protection in those times, they tried to use beamers to get back at racist chants & slagging. And against Australians who also used the same tactic with their fast bowlers. But there was no excuse for them to target subcontinental batsmen. They were hated by all the other cricketing nations.

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

just check out the papers today on how much they are liked.....that west indian team was pure cricket and a contest between bat and ball..nothing more..

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Since there wasn't proper protection in those times, they tried to use beamers to get back at racist chants & slagging. And against Australians who also used the same tactic with their fast bowlers. But there was no excuse for them to target subcontinental batsmen. They were hated by all the other cricketing nations.

thats what i said...there is something called ability for facing pure fast bowling...just check out Vishy's chennai innings against the windies..thats what you call giving it back...

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 08:35 PM [Full View]

They weren't loved then! Maybe now we do as we haven't seen 'em doing different ways to get into skin of other players. IF you look back at archives, they were extremely skillful, had a sense of aesthetic (in batting and bowling) & brought a whole different charisma, a diff. attitude to cricket. Marrying that Caribbean flair to ruthless intensity. The image of Viv Richards chewing gum, without helmet & standing firm like M.Ali (the film 'Fire in Babylon' tries to underscore this image & analogy too.) still lingers on the mind. And Clive Lloyd embodied calmness & gravitas that we hadn't seen since. Holding could whisper his way to bowl one at the nose. Etc..Etc. But it wouldn't have been fun at the time!

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 08:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Ganguly was scathing on weeds line of attack/defensive field set..he even conceded Swann was the no.1 spinner/India not the true no.1 in Aajtak. Weeds career would have ended if not for Sachin during the monkey episode...also have hindustan times/toi ever written a piece critising our senior spinner? Why was the yahoo columnist pulled up for writing a piece on weeds ineffectiveness for the past 4 years?

I ask you the same qs which I asked softsword

1. Why is Ashwin despite being a trump card for csk/good domestic for TN ..is always given a cold shoulder when it comes to Indian team?
2. Why RP singh name is/was always pushed to be selected and Irfan Pathan overlooked?
3. Why did Dhoni threaten to quit over the above issue?

im not ruling out "favoritism" angle here but im not a fan of such nexus theories, born out of conclusions with minimal hard evidences........

1. can u answer why rajinder goel, V.V.Kumar, Shivalkar didnt get to play a single test inspite of being better than Bedi in 70s......with a tamil selector pushing for useless vijays and mukunds, i think its fair that question is directed at srikanth rather than Dhoni....

2. Irfan Pathan issue - http://cricket.rediff.com/report/201...-selection.htm

If sources are to be believed, he earned the wrath of the selectors after failing to report for the Irani Cup match between Mumbai [ Images ] and Rest of India last October. He was named in the 15-member squad, but the all-rounder failed to report for duty, following which he was replaced by UP pacer Bhuvanesh Kumar.

It wasï¿½then that the selectors unanimously decided that Irfan would have to pay for the no-show, the sources added.

3. Any captain who doesent get the team of his choice will quite naturally feel like quitting......

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:40 PM [Full View]

not fun for whining people...surely you might have come across senior players at some point of time talking about them....windies are known for their sportsmanship...and there is a difference between Aquib javed's beemers(infamous incident) and A.Robert's aggression..

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 08:41 PM [Full View]

Harby traveled to Windies to keep his place. He was aware that Ashwin was growing in stature. Even in Word cup, it was bizarre that Harbhajan was retained & Ashwin was dropped. It's clear as daylight that Harby had become 'undroppable' to Dhoni. For reasons better known to him.

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

....if we are not knowing reasons behind this issue people will question the man under spot light and that is Dhoni..especially for the way he defends bhajji..

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

They weren't loved then! Maybe now we do as we haven't seen 'em doing different ways to get into skin of other players. IF you look back at archives, they were extremely skillful, had a sense of aesthetic (in batting and bowling) & brought a whole different charisma, a diff. attitude to cricket. Marrying that Caribbean flair to ruthless intensity. The image of Viv Richards chewing gum, without helmet & standing firm like M.Ali (the film 'Fire in Babylon' tries to underscore this image & analogy too.) still lingers on the mind. And Clive Lloyd embodied calmness & gravitas that we hadn't seen since. Holding could whisper his way to bowl one at the nose. Etc..Etc. But it wouldn't have been fun at the time!

yeah, i think its more of a "andha kaalathula" kind of nostalgic love for windies that is lingering in many people's minds.......i started watching cricket in 87' world cup and i used to remember how the elders in the house used to look at WI batsmen, bowlers as real villains like how we saw aussie players.......having started watching from that era and how the likes of patrick pattersons were brought only to terrorise the batsmen, i really dont have great love for windies cricket except for odd walsh and ofcourse the inevitable Lara......

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

Windies bowlers went out to hurt their opponents. It's confessed in 'Fire in Babylon' by Holding & co. themselves. So much for sportsmanship!

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

people hated the west indians because of their home player's abilities to handle them...ofcourse there were only few gavaskars,vishwanaths,zaheer abbass,greg chappells...and ofcourse only one VIV RICHARDS...ofcourse the main reason for people to get frightened off..

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Windies bowlers went out to hurt their opponents. It's confessed in 'Fire in Babylon' by Holding & co. themselves. So much for sportsmanship!

yeah - im surprised that they are called likable.......

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

Raghav,
I suppose you weren't aware that Sunny & other Indian batsmen surrendered the test in protest of criminal damage-inflicting bowling from Windies? And you're saying it's 'no fun for whining people'. wth?
http://yfrog.com/kha2d6j http://yfrog.com/h85aa1j http://yfrog.com/h827y0j

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

im not ruling out "favoritism" angle here but im not a fan of such nexus theories, born out of conclusions with minimal hard evidences........

The yahoo columinist is alive and kicking! ask him about the threat from PR firm

1. can u answer why rajinder goel, V.V.Kumar, Shivalkar didnt get to play a single test inspite of being better than Bedi in 70s......with a tamil selector pushing for useless vijays and mukunds, i think its fair that question is directed at srikanth rather than Dhoni....

Kumble was dropped from 11 in overseas to make way for weed before.. so what is stopping the team management to do the same with weed now?
Could you list out some test openers with better record than Mukund playing in domestic cricket?

2. Irfan Pathan issue - http://cricket.rediff.com/report/201...-selection.htm

Irfan was overlooked before this incident popped up and due to the firm Irfan had to pay from his
own pocket for his medical expenses.
3. Any captain who doesent get the team of his choice will quite naturally feel like quitting......

Dhoni was pushed in this issue,

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg620/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/sca...=640&ysize=640

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Sunny Gavaskar says:
Unlike the West Indian teams of the 1970s and 1980s which dominated world cricket in much the same way as the Australians are doing now, the Australians are not popular winners. The Windies were feared for the ferocity of their attack and the aggression of their batsmen but at the end of the playing day the West Indian player was not only admired but also liked. They went about their job in a no fuss manner and hardly had anything to say to the opponents, unlike the Aussies who have plenty to say and seldom in a humorous way.
http://jasonmonserrate.blogspot.com/...ting-spat.html

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

this is what i am talknig about..

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg620/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg620/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg734/sca...=640&ysize=640

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

Shows that Sunny couldn't be trusted.
Coz he's one of the main 'victims' who didn't like to cope with their fast bowling.

Images never lie. Watch above!

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 09:17 PM [Full View]

ok you are here to judge a person's views...it was not from a batsman who hided like border to face them..thats why i gave sunny's link...he was the best against them..he is the one of the best living example to talk about cricket of those days...i did not bring people from my home on my much they loved that team..i m sticking toplayers...remember sunny's 236 against windies..i dont have videos of that.....why should a man humiliated by that team talk so high about them?..you guys are fixed..i cant help it..sure you would have come across Imran khan talknig about the windies in the WC 2011 interviews...anyways...

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From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

im not ruling out "favoritism" angle here but im not a fan of such nexus theories, born out of conclusions with minimal hard evidences........

The yahoo columinist is alive and kicking! ask him about the threat from PR firm

1. can u answer why rajinder goel, V.V.Kumar, Shivalkar didnt get to play a single test inspite of being better than Bedi in 70s......with a tamil selector pushing for useless vijays and mukunds, i think its fair that question is directed at srikanth rather than Dhoni....

Kumble was dropped from 11 in overseas to make way for weed before.. so what is stopping the team management to do the same with weed now?
Could you list out some test openers with better record than Mukund playing in domestic cricket?

2. Irfan Pathan issue - http://cricket.rediff.com/report/201...-selection.htm

Irfan was overlooked before this incident popped up and due to the firm Irfan had to pay from his own pocket for his medical expenses.

3. Any captain who doesent get the team of his choice will quite naturally feel like quitting......
Dhoni was pushed in this issue,

i mean, how do u think its possible for anyone to meet some yahoo columnist and ask him abt these things and believe him on what he says.......if u r convinced with the nexus theory urself, im ok with it......

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Images never lie. Watch above!

absolutely horrifying images......infact now i feel Aussies of 90, 00s were angels

....

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:25 PM [Full View]

Of course, they're a GREAT team. Imran refers to 'em as 'Mighty West Indies' of 70's & 80's. Everyone understands that. But they had to get ugly to counter the devil (Oz/England). Except they did to all the lesser teams, even us palak panneer Indians..

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 09:25 PM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEbYhwBb50&feature=player_embedded
http://i55.tinypic.com/2uzttoz.jpg
ANGELS...

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i mean, how do u think its possible for anyone to meet some yahoo columnist and ask him abt these things and believe him on what he says.......if u r convinced with the nexus theory urself, im ok with it......

I went to school with him also I have a fair idea about the nexus iam talking about

From: raghavendran on 27th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

KID
simple...i gave you the words of a man who was in that team and played them well give his perspective...

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

I went to school with him also I have a fair idea about the nexus iam talking about

oh ok - if Dhoni is guilty, he should be punished

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

I went to school with him also I have a fair idea about the nexus iam talking about

oh ok - to quote the obvious, if Dhoni is found guilty, he should be punished

From: SoftSword on 27th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Actually my ex-boss used to show lot of favoritism to one of my colleague, payyan thaan. He gets best rating every appraisal, minimum of 40% hike. Visarichu paartha andha payyanuku oru kozhi pannai oorula iruku adhulla ennoda boss-um oru partner-aam.

Endha puthula endha kOzhiyo?

neengalum oru kozhi pannai vechirunga...
kozhi pannai mudilanaalum paravaala... oru.. kuruvi pannai'yaachum vainga...

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar being the greatest batsman against Windies is a myth..his avg of 65 will flatter any statsguru enthusiast.

1) 1971 (his 100# 1, 2 ,3, and 4)
Boyce, Shillingford, Sobers (end of his career), Gibbs.
Only Gibbs (offie) was any decent bowler. Boyce and Shiingford were no faster than Balaji! WI were not THE BEST in 1971.

2) 1975-76 (100# 5 and 6).
Yes....Robert and Holding were there but Holding's was very early in his career.

3) 1978-79 (100# 7, 8, 9 and 10)
Against a very DEPLETED WI side whose main players were gone to Kerry Packer. Holder, Clark and Marshall (in his first series)

4) 1982-83 (100# 11).
Yes, this was the true/fast WI bowling attack (Robert, Holding, marshal and garner) but he scored on dead batting wicket after WI had scored 470 runs in the first innings.

5) 1983-84 (100# 12 and 13).
Against Holding Marshal, Daniel and Davis....on a batting wicket oif Dehli and the match was drawn. Davis and Daniel were not very good fast bowlers!
13th 100 came against Holding, Marshall, Davis and aging Robets. Again a dead pitch match drawn after no first day's play.

season 1982/83 5 9 1 240 147* 32 20 30.00 1 0 1
season 1983/84 6 11 1 505 236* 121 90 50.50 2 1 2

So in reality Gavaskar mostly scored his runs/100s against depleted WI attacks....not when they were the best!

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar had made racist remarks about 'tall negros from Jamaica' in the past. Who am I to judge him?

Dude, I never fault Windies for what they became. They had to do it. They got on faces of English/Australians, and had to stand toe-to-toe with that kind of dangerous tactics. However, when Windies did all this, the English authorities tried to counter it with few rules. They never did that when Oz's were doing it. This is the kind of hypocrisy Plum tries to point out..

I still maintain that everyone feared 'em. And some grew racist thoughts, like Sunny

Not many loved 'em..

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar being the greatest batsman against Windies is a myth..his avg of 65 will flatter any statsguru enthusiast.

1) 1971 (his 100# 1, 2 ,3, and 4)
Boyce, Shillingford, Sobers (end of his career), Gibbs.
Only Gibbs (offie) was any decent bowler. Boyce and Shiingford were no faster than Balaji! WI were not THE BEST in 1971.

2) 1975-76 (100# 5 and 6).
Yes....Robert and Holding were there but Holding's was very early in his career.

3) 1978-79 (100# 7, 8, 9 and 10)
Against a very DEPLETED WI side whose main players were gone to Kerry Packer. Holder, Clark and Marshall (in his first series)

4) 1982-83 (100# 11).
Yes, this was the true/fast WI bowling attack (Robert, Holding, marshal and garner) but he scored on dead batting wicket after WI had scored 470 runs in the first innings.

5) 1983-84 (100# 12 and 13).
Against Holding Marshal, Daniel and Davis....on a batting wicket oif Dehli and the match was drawn. Davis and Daniel were not very good fast bowlers!
13th 100 came against Holding, Marshall, Davis and aging Robets. Again a dead pitch match drawn after no first day's play.

season 1982/83 5 9 1 240 147* 32 20 30.00 1 0 1
season 1983/84 6 11 1 505 236* 121 90 50.50 2 1 2

So in reality Gavaskar mostly scored his runs/100s against depleted WI attacks....not when they were the best!

From: MADDY on 27th July 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEbYhwBb50&feature=player_embedded
http://i55.tinypic.com/2uzttoz.jpg
ANGELS...

i still maintain Aussies are angels cos i dont see any bleeding, bruises, cuts, medical attention requirement for Sarwan or Dravid there........i know u like Windies brand of cricket a lot, i dont like them - basically thats the point and we are going in circles abt it

From: wizzy on 27th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

oh ok - to quote the obvious, if Dhoni is found guilty, he should be punished

poor guy..it is a blemish and he is powerless in this issue ..why you wanna punish the most sucessful Indian captain ever?

From: sathya_1979 on 27th July 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

edhukku ippO idhellaam, ellaarukkum nAma jeippOmnu nambikkaiyE pOiduchA?

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzeQryPv8E

ANGRY MICHAEL HOLDING kicks stumps down vs New Zealand 1st test 1980

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

This is the kind of thing they were known for. Even against Indians, Pakistanis - mind you!

However, no one knows how many bad decisions were given in this match. Lloyd is known to build a 'siege mentality'. It'd get over your head at times. Especially when bad decisions were given.

That said, Holding has shown remarkable honesty in accepting all this since.

From: kid-glove on 27th July 2011 10:21 PM [Full View]

Btw, I just saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIj1K0yFwNE&feature=related

This is what I speak about. Holders could defend & sympathize with sub-continent players. But British have inoculated into him that INDIA are the arrogant bunch who enjoy hegemony in world cricket today.

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 11:50 PM [Full View]

India in England 2011
Flower unhappy with limited DRS

ESPNcricinfo staff

July 27, 2011

Andy Flower, the England coach, has said the ICC should have over-ruled India's insistence on using a watered-down Decision Review System (DRS) for the ongoing Test series. He felt the system for the series - which doesn't use ball-tracking technology, and doesn't allow lbw decisions to be reviewed - was "unsatisfactory", a view shared by England bowlers Graeme Swann and James Anderson.

England had several close lbw appeals turned down as they hunted for wickets on the final day of the Lord's Test, including against Sachin Tendulkar and Suresh Raina off Stuart Broad. Though England ultimately completed a straightforward 196-run victory to take a 1-0 series lead, Flower was unhappy.

"It would have been wrong if the outcome of the game was seriously affected by a couple of those decisions. It's unsatisfactory the way it is, no doubt about that," Flower said. "I think the ICC should be stronger in taking a lead on these issues. They are the world governing body and they should lead."

The DRS for this series uses infra-red technology and stump microphones, which meets the minimum standards stipulated by the ICC. Both the ICC and the England board had made it clear before the start of the series that they would have liked to incorporate ball-tracking in the DRS, but for India's refusal.

"We all know that DRS is not going to be 100%, but we also know you get more right decisions using it, so let's not quibble about millimetres here when we know you get more right than wrong and that's why most Test-playing nations want to use it."

Swann advocated the use of ball-tracking to ensure more accurate decisions. "I think we should use the Hawk-Eye tracking device because it has worked well over the last couple of years and can take flashpoints out of the game," he wrote in the Sun. "We all knew Broady's appeal for lbw against Raina was out but umpire Billy Bowden thought there might have been an inside edge. Similarly, Broady's shout against Tendulkar would have been given out on review.

"They could have been massive moments and, if India had clung on for a draw, there's no doubt we would have been very frustrated."

Anderson said that the available technology should be used. "We have used it in the last few series we have played and were starting to get used to the method of using it - when you refer and don't refer. We have enjoyed the fact that at the end of the day more correct decisions were made than the wrong ones. The most pleasing thing was that as frustrating as it was to not have it we managed to not let it affect us and just got on with the job in hand."

The Indian board has long been averse to the DRS and had announced last month that it didn't want the system to be used in the England series. A compromise on the DRS was thrashed out at the ICC's annual conference later in the month. The series against England is the first time India are using the review system in Tests since 2008.

© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/524903.html

From: ajithfederer on 27th July 2011 11:56 PM [Full View]

India in England 2011
Flower unhappy with limited DRS

ESPNcricinfo staff

July 27, 2011

Andy Flower, the England coach, has said the ICC should have over-ruled India's insistence on using a watered-down Decision Review System (DRS) for the ongoing Test series. He felt the system for the series - which doesn't use ball-tracking technology, and doesn't allow lbw decisions to be reviewed - was "unsatisfactory", a view shared by England bowlers Graeme Swann and James Anderson.

England had several close lbw appeals turned down as they hunted for wickets on the final day of the Lord's Test, including against Sachin Tendulkar and Suresh Raina off Stuart Broad. Though England ultimately completed a straightforward 196-run victory to take a 1-0 series lead, Flower was unhappy.

"It would have been wrong if the outcome of the game was seriously affected by a couple of those decisions. It's unsatisfactory the way it is, no doubt about that," Flower said. "I think the ICC should be stronger in taking a lead on these issues. They are the world governing body and they should lead."

The DRS for this series uses infra-red technology and stump microphones, which meets the minimum standards stipulated by the ICC. Both the ICC and the England board had made it clear before the start of the series that they would have liked to incorporate ball-tracking in the DRS, but for India's refusal.

"We all know that DRS is not going to be 100%, but we also know you get more right decisions using it, so let's not quibble about millimetres here when we know you get more right than wrong and that's why most Test-playing nations want to use it."

Swann advocated the use of ball-tracking to ensure more accurate decisions. "I think we should use the Hawk-Eye tracking device because it has worked well over the last couple of years and can take flashpoints out of the game," he wrote in the Sun. "We all knew Broady's appeal for lbw against Raina was out but umpire Billy Bowden thought there might have been an inside edge. Similarly, Broady's shout against Tendulkar would have been given out on review.

"They could have been massive moments and, if India had clung on for a draw, there's no doubt we would have been very frustrated."

Anderson said that the available technology should be used. "We have used it in the last few series we have played and were starting to get used to the method of using it - when you refer and don't refer. We have enjoyed the fact that at the end of the day more correct decisions were made than the wrong ones. The most pleasing thing was that as frustrating as it was to not have it we managed to not let it affect us and just got on with the job in hand."

The Indian board has long been averse to the DRS and had announced last month that it didn't want the system to be used in the England series. A compromise on the DRS was thrashed out at the ICC's annual conference later in the month. The series against England is the first time India are using the review system in Tests since 2008.

© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/524903.html

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 02:32 AM [Full View]

Status quo on Zaheer fitness front

* According to the India team manager Anirudh Chaudhary, there has been "a considerable improvement" in Zaheer's recovery from the hamstring injury he picked on the first afternoon at Lord's. Zaheer was expected to bowl in the second innings, at least according to the update sent by Chaudhary on the second day, but was only spotted walking in and out of the gymnasium.

* At Trent Bridge today, Zaheer did not join the rest of the squad at their complete nets but instead underwent a light training in the company of the team physio Ashish Kaushik. Initially both men walked around the ground, followed by a steady jog. Kaushik then put Zaheer through the paces while he timed him. Zaheer then did some stretching in the gymnasium.

* After the Lord's defeat, MS Dhoni had stated that he would not rush his premier fast bowler if he was not 100% fit. Chaudhary indicated that the chances of Zaheer returning for the second Test were positive. The lines continued to be blurred.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/525001.html

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 02:56 AM [Full View]

england are now cricket kings of the world :botham

Legendary all-rounder Ian Botham considers the current English team as "cricket kings of the world" and says he can foresee England displacing India from the number one spot during the four-Test series and ushering in a new era of dominance.

"There is little doubt that the current English team are now cricket kings of the world," wrote Ian Botham, in his column in 'Daily Mirror'.

"What we saw at Lord's was the sort of performance you would expect from the best team on the planet and there will be more to come before this series is over.

"At some point, England will take the No.1 title from India officially and then an era of dominance should follow, because we are well ahead of the pack. Every department is covered and without a weak link," he added.

England beat India by 196 runs in the opening Test of the four-match series, putting up a clinical performance against their depleted opponents, who were a bowler short after Zaheer Khan's hamstring injury.

And Botham feels that India are hoping against hope to beat the strong English side in their home conditions with a depleted unit.

"How can India hope to beat us, especially with their injury worries?," asked the 55-year-old.

"And as good as some of India's players have been over many years, I don't see how they can get back into this series against a side as confident as England. And they will get better, because there is a hunger in the dressing room to search for that bit extra."

The second Test of the series is to be played at Trent Bridge from Friday and the legendary all-rounder warns India of some fierce bowling from the hosts.

"England will have two bowlers on home turf, while a third - Jimmy Anderson - never leaves without a five-fer in his back pocket. And judging by the way he is bowling at the moment, India should be happy if all he takes is five wickets," Botham said.

"The great thing about this England team is that they are all peaking together and dovetail like the best teams do." Botham also praised Kevin Pietersen for his unbeaten 202 innings at Lord's.

"In terms of the way it started when things weren't easy and then ensuring he was still there and able to cash in after he had made his first hundred. That is what Test match batting should be about," the former cricketer said.

"Matt Prior performed magnificently again. We know his batting ability is as good as any Test middle order batsman, but his glovework was in the top bracket too."

Botham also confessed that Stuart Board had silenced his critics with seven wickets from two innings in the first Test but said he stood by his words.

"On an unhelpful wicket the bowlers hunted as a pack and I have to doff my cap to Stuart Broad, who took all the criticism that came his way then hit back in the best possible way with wickets.

"I was one of those calling for him to be dropped before the game and I stand by those words because the Broad we saw at Lord's was not the one we had been watching earlier.

"I hope he pushes on from here and doesn't let it be his only performance of the series. He also showed maturity in the way he handled his lbw knock-backs, although it is ridiculous that the DRS is not being used," he said.

Criticising Indian Cricket Board (BCCI) for not using the full Decision Review System in the series, Botham said, "It is time India accepted it and realise that the game is not here just for them. Everybody wants the full DRS."

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 02:56 AM [Full View]

God, I cannot wait for the 2nd Test match.

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 03:13 AM [Full View]

Something even I cannot fathom which includes leaving Zaheer for this prick. Anyway no more IPL talks from now on.

Originally Posted by MADDY

obviously Dhoni is giving a very huge unnecessary leniency to Bhajji and some personal reasons cannot be ruled out.........but the ad firm-Dhoni-bhajji-sunny-ravi nexus seems a nicely made tabloid story because of the very fact that its not just Sunny and Ravi supporting Bhajji, even Ganguly and other commentators are not saying anything against bhajji, if im not wrong.......even in MI team, Sachin never looks at dropping bhajji, watever may be his performance........i think it requires a better fact finding to reveal secret to bhajji's continued immunity but surely this has been one of the worst "open favoritism" we have seen in Indian cricket history.......

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 04:21 AM [Full View]

Whoa!!! Dude. Those days batsmen were mere toys in front of the bowlers. I mean no protective gear, no limit on bouncers per over and pitches were made only to suit fast bowling except the subcontinent pitches may be. See the video where lilee bowls 4 bouncers in a single over to Viv. If it was now you cannot bowl for an inning after the 2nd bouncer.

And for bowling I thought the 90's had more variety than just raw pace of the 80's/70's. Nowadays pace doesn't bother the batsmen anymore only swing/seam movement and good spin (warne/swan) and to an extent hard workers like Kumble.

Originally Posted by raghavendran

ball ala adikiranga..i think u r referring to that?...adhan bat kudithirkangala..Gavaskar,Z.Abbas,Gooch etc...are players who have handled their bowling and have scored tons of runs....thats between bat and ball.....FAST BOWLERSna ipdidhan irukanum oru grammer set pannadhe andha teamdhan....thats the test those days....thereal test..its different from what aussies do and Indians can never be that team...

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 04:22 AM [Full View]

Raghav, look at the way viv richards appeals excessively for a catch which was a clear not out. Ponting should take classes from him. Nowadays such an appeal will call easily for the ban of a player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-aofgxn1U

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 04:29 AM [Full View]

Raghav, What maddy/kid are trying to say is Windies were more keen in doing body damage to the batsmen rather than trying to take get them out. It's th intention whih they are questioning not the end result.

From: ajithfederer on 28th July 2011 04:36 AM [Full View]

Kid, On Michael holding he has become completely against India in the recent past. Guess, What's the reason UDRS stance again. During the recent Eng-SL series holding on air was constantly criticizing the lack of audience in Indian Test matches and he resents the fact that India is having a major say in world cricket affairs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uvdpv326A4

Watch this....

From: kid-glove on 28th July 2011 08:16 AM [Full View]

Yes Feddy, that's why I said '(British) inoculated into him that INDIA are the arrogant bunch who enjoy hegemony in world cricket today.'

From: kid-glove on 28th July 2011 08:22 AM [Full View]

Mark Nicholas tries different ways to make Holding say something bad about India.

The Brazil example works to some extent btw. Indians, more than Windies, possess that individual flair & natural talent to be compared to Brazilians in football. We should aspire to be like that. We shouldn't inherit some of the bad qualities (of other dominating teams of the past) that would undermine our position & class in the game. More importantly, to parrot what you guys said, BCCI needs a PRO.

From: mgb on 28th July 2011 09:31 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

God, I cannot wait for the 2nd Test match.

what is god's record at trentbridge ?

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 09:33 AM [Full View]

Good discussions. I tend to side with Raghav on Windies. I don't remember much loathing for them all around me, in newspapers and from players during my childhood. The primary emotion was fear, yes, but not loathing.
The odd Bedi raised the stakes as he always did but I don't think enough mud stuck on them. They weren't angels, sure, but the Aussies and English are devious and cunning and have been able to use the rules interpretation to their favour all through, including now. If not for BCCI's might, we'll be constantly seeing laws tweaked to suit them. BCCI needs better PR. Heck, they can and should easily buy Daily Mail, Telegraph columnists. Ofcourse, for NS and co, these are mere mosquitoes and they don't believe they need the goodwill of these mosquitoes. Namma dhaan brit newspapers padichuttu kodhikkaROm

From: sathya_1979 on 28th July 2011 09:41 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

what is god's record at trentbridge ?

IIRC 177 in 1996 Series, 92 in 2002 Series. Forgot his score in 2007 Series

From: littlemaster1982 on 28th July 2011 09:57 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

what is god's record at trentbridge ?

3 tests, a hundred and two nineties. Avg: 78. Not bad

From: wizzy on 28th July 2011 10:56 AM [Full View]

we miss Ganguly in this series to put it across these English cricket 'experts'..dhoni in pk words has really become 'Obama' of cricket..

From: mgb on 28th July 2011 11:38 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

3 tests, a hundred and two nineties. Avg: 78. Not bad

so the chances for the milestone is bright

our chances for drawing the test is also bright. We can try to level the series in the 3rd test when we are in full strength.
Thanks satya n master

From: scorpio on 28th July 2011 01:57 PM [Full View]

Tremlett doubtful for the second Test

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...he-second-test

Tim Bresnan is the replacement. Azharadhaa illa sirikaradhaa?

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 02:29 PM [Full View]

If their backup is so good, then dont england deserve to be #1, Scorp? enna dhAn namakku pudikkAdhunnAlum, it is becoming more and more difficult to grudge England their #1 ranking now

From: scorpio on 28th July 2011 03:10 PM [Full View]

SA in SA-vayE draw paNNinOm. Englandai samaLichudalaam-nnu thaan thONudhu.

For those seething in anger at India's ferfaamans, a soothing article from Cricbuzz below-

Can we stop the blame game please?

Criticism is one of the easiest tasks known to man. And when it comes to a sport that is followed with religious fervour by the best part of 1.2 billion fans - you often get 1.2 billion critics too. The Indian team's loss in the Lord's Test led to a number of questions being raised. Some questioned the preparedness of the players - a fair enough criticism - while others went down a route that's been travelled umpteen times: the 'Blame the IPL' highway.

Let's take a quick recap about the factors that contributed to India's loss. India were missing Virender Sehwag - the most destructive opener in cricket - who hadn't yet regained full fitness after a shoulder surgery. Zaheer Khan, India's pace spearhead and the leader and guide of the bowling attack, was out of action on Day 1 with a hamstring injury. When he went off, he had taken 2/18 from 13.3 overs. Sachin Tendulkar succumbed to a viral infection. Gautam Gambhir was hit on the elbow - an injury that fortunately didn't turn out to be a fracture - and couldn't open or bat with any great comfort.

The Indians were handicapped and the power of the opposition overwhelmed them. India couldn't survive Day 5 despite Raina's brilliance and exactly as Dhoni said at the presentation, 'Everything that could possibly go wrong, went wrong' for India.

A batsman like Sehwag will always be missed if he doesn't turn out for any of the teams he represents. His shoulder had been a little dodgy and the 'Blame the IPL' brigade pointed to the fact that if he had skipped the tournament and got surgery done earlier, he would have probably been ready for the first Test. But it doesn't quite sound right when the same set of experts who thoroughly enjoyed Sehwag's splendiferous hundred in the IPL against the Deccan Chargers, then turned against the Nawab of Najafgarh by blaming him for not skipping the tournament. And this doesn't even cover the important aspect of financial well-being that every cricketer has to take care of and which the IPL provides.

India were also blamed for poor decisions on the field. Take the case of what happened on the morning of Day 4. England were 72/5 and Ishant was ruling the roost at Lunch. In the afternoon session, everyone expected/wanted Ishant to come back and bowl, but that didn't happen. And immediately fingers were pointed. Nobody gave a thought to the fact that the tall fast bowler had just bowled 11 overs that morning, and perhaps needed a breather. Was the 40-minute lunch break not enough? Apparently not, since Ishant himself said later 'I have a body and I need rest', when asked why he hadn't come on immediately post-lunch.

Moreover, Dhoni had problems with the over rate and was in the brink of a suspension. Unfortunately, the other bowlers couldn't chip in and stop England from reaching a much more comfortable position. And by the time Ishant was brought on again, things were different with two set batsmen at the crease.

Dhoni's task has almost become like a football goalkeeper's job. You're not remembered for the goals you save, but for the ones that you let go. The loss against England - it must be reiterated - had more to do with the brilliance of the Englishmen and the luck that eluded the Indians.

The other topic of discussion is the case of Harbhajan Singh. Yes, the off-spinner was disappointing in the Test and hasn't been getting enough wickets recently. The figure in the career wickets column next to his name might read 405, but it doesn't speak of his poor current form. However, is it all that feasible to drop him? The only other spinner in the squad is Amit Mishra. If Harbhajan is dropped in favour of Mishra, and Mishra doesn't take wickets fingers will be pointed at Dhoni once more.

The truth is, Dhoni cannot lose his flair due to one bad game. Harbhajan hasn't taken 405 wickets by always bowling badly. Sehwag didn't have a crystal ball telling him that if he played in the initial part of the IPL, he would have to miss half of the England tour which was still three months away.

The truth is that the English side deserve credit for being the better ones across the five days of the Lord's Test, and it is better to give them that credit than speak of things that 'could have' or 'would have' been.

The second Test will hold much more answers than the first, and will let people know whether the Indian team is simply not good enough, or that Lord's was a combination of factors that will not be repeated.

If Sreesanth replaces Zaheer, will he deliver? Can Harbhajan re-discover himself? Will Tendulkar and Gambhir be fully fit? Will Dhoni's magic touch continue to work and will he pull another out-of-the-box plan off? We'll find out at Trent Bridge.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 28th July 2011 03:15 PM [Full View]

Ok here is my take, this Match will be drawn and the next match India will win, which means England can "never" be No 1 side in Test ranking !

From: SoftSword on 28th July 2011 03:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

so the chances for the milestone is bright

our chances for drawing the test is also bright. We can try to level the series in the 3rd test when we are in full strength.
Thanks satya n master

ganesh anna... in cricket, i always believe ur predictions...
it all started when u guessed that the perth test is gonna be ours...

From: SoftSword on 28th July 2011 03:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

england are now cricket kings of the world :botham

Legendary all-rounder Ian Botham considers the current English team as "cricket kings of the world" and says he can foresee England displacing India from the number one spot during the four-Test series and ushering in a new era of dominance.

"There is little doubt that the current English team are now cricket kings of the world," wrote Ian Botham, in his column in 'Daily Mirror'.

"What we saw at Lord's was the sort of performance you would expect from the best team on the planet and there will be more to come before this series is over.

"At some point, England will take the No.1 title from India officially and then an era of dominance should follow, because we are well ahead of the pack. Every department is covered and without a weak link," he added.

England beat India by 196 runs in the opening Test of the four-match series, putting up a clinical performance against their depleted opponents, who were a bowler short after Zaheer Khan's hamstring injury.

And Botham feels that India are hoping against hope to beat the strong English side in their home conditions with a depleted unit.

"How can India hope to beat us, especially with their injury worries?," asked the 55-year-old.

"And as good as some of India's players have been over many years, I don't see how they can get back into this series against a side as confident as England. And they will get better, because there is a hunger in the dressing room to search for that bit extra."

The second Test of the series is to be played at Trent Bridge from Friday and the legendary all-rounder warns India of some fierce bowling from the hosts.

"England will have two bowlers on home turf, while a third - Jimmy Anderson - never leaves without a five-fer in his back pocket. And judging by the way he is bowling at the moment, India should be happy if all he takes is five wickets," Botham said.

"The great thing about this England team is that they are all peaking together and dovetail like the best teams do." Botham also praised Kevin Pietersen for his unbeaten 202 innings at Lord's.

"In terms of the way it started when things weren't easy and then ensuring he was still there and able to cash in after he had made his first hundred. That is what Test match batting should be about," the former cricketer said.

"Matt Prior performed magnificently again. We know his batting ability is as good as any Test middle order batsman, but his glovework was in the top bracket too."

Botham also confessed that Stuart Board had silenced his critics with seven wickets from two innings in the first Test but said he stood by his words.

"On an unhelpful wicket the bowlers hunted as a pack and I have to doff my cap to Stuart Broad, who took all the criticism that came his way then hit back in the best possible way with wickets.

"I was one of those calling for him to be dropped before the game and I stand by those words because the Broad we saw at Lord's was not the one we had been watching earlier.

"I hope he pushes on from here and doesn't let it be his only performance of the series. He also showed maturity in the way he handled his lbw knock-backs, although it is ridiculous that the DRS is not being used," he said.

Criticising Indian Cricket Board (BCCI) for not using the full Decision Review System in the series, Botham said, "It is time India accepted it and realise that the game is not here just for them. Everybody wants the full DRS."

kena punaa'ngalaa...
romba pesareenga... ungalukkellaam irukku daa.....

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

Why is Sehwag out? Why is Zaheer injured? Why didn't they attend to their niggles or take rest enough after WC? Is it not because of IPL. IPL has to take the blame - and unlike vested interests like England ans Aussies, this is valid criticism since this is coming from us with the interest of indian cricket in mind

From: Anban on 28th July 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

west indies team is unbeatable...the agression they showed was only with the ball and not with the mouth..
AF
that excessive appealing viv did was when no rules were there but the aussies did it when we had all the strict rules intact..there is a difference between the two

From: roosevelt92 on 28th July 2011 04:19 PM [Full View]

Such a exciting series between Rank 1 and Rank 3 teams. I love India-England series after Ashes.

From: wizzy on 28th July 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Why is Sehwag out? Why is Zaheer injured? Why didn't they attend to their niggles or take rest enough after WC? Is it not because of IPL. IPL has to take the blame - and unlike vested interests like England ans Aussies, this is valid criticism since this is coming from us with the interest of indian cricket in mind

I agree that Sehwag postponed his surgery in view of the IPL but his rehab was suppose to 4-6 weeks after surgery which should have allowed to be him fit for 1st test..since he has been carryin this injury for close to 2 years it is taking time to heal.
..but to blame Zaheer's injury to IPL is pushing it...Zk/Sree had to close to 8 weeks to shape up for this tour..BCCI even rested them from Windies tour to be in top condition..with their waistline we can safely assume that they have spent 6 weeks at NCA gulping kingsfisher

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

EnnamO. I am already preparing a set of EvugaNais to throw at jubiliant English fans after they win the ongoing test series against India
1. England is not true #1 until they beat Windies in Windies. epdi? (They lost 0-1 in their last tour there)
2. England is not #1 until they win in subcontinet. Atleast, we can postpone the humiliation until the next England tour to sub continent
3. England is not true #1 until they beat SA in SA.

From: Sourav on 28th July 2011 05:30 PM [Full View]

Sehwag motivates Team India from sidelines, on Twitter
New Delhi:

He may not be in action with the bat on the field but Indian opener Virender Sehwag is making sure that he keeps the team's morale high in England.

Out of the first two Tests against England due to a shoulder injury, Sehwag is motivating his teammates and fans with some inspirational words on the micro-blogging site Twitter.

"Time spent living in fear is like working overtime without pay,No one is better than U,Other than urself;Just Believe,And never be afraid," Sehwag writes on his Twitter page.

After a crushing defeat in the first Test, Team India locks horn with England in the second Test on Friday in Nottingham. Following the loss at Lord's, the Indian team has been widely written off by the cricket experts and critics.

But Sehwag takes a philosophical stand on success and says: "success is a vehicle which moves on a wheel called HARD WORK but the journey is impossible without fuel called SELF CONFIDENCE."

The Indian team is waiting for the flamboyant opener's return as it will not only bolster the side but his presence up in the order will also give it some psychological advantage.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/sports/s...tter-176413&cp

avan yetho summa 2 forward msgs-i eduthu potturukkan... athai vacchu ivanga oru news column ready pannitanuga...

From: MADDY on 28th July 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Kid, On Michael holding he has become completely against India in the recent past. Guess, What's the reason UDRS stance again. During the recent Eng-SL series holding on air was constantly criticizing the lack of audience in Indian Test matches and he resents the fact that India is having a major say in world cricket affairs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uvdpv326A4

Watch this....

it looked like some sort of housewives back-bitching discussion abt BCCI whose representation was not present there.......pathetic english, as usual, and views from Holding and Mark Nicholas who got a handful when he made unnecessary remarks in 2003 WC........and look at sangakkara smiling all the way during this back-bitching session which MCC calls "spirit of cricket"

.....i think WI have forgotten their racial abuse and are now siding anyone who opposes India.......i remember Daryl Harper saying that even WI players were not happy with Indian team behavior in recent ODI and test series............edho kanni ponnunga-kitta "misbehave" panna madhiri siluthhukkraanga......

i completely agree with BCCI and Dhoni's stand on not using DRS - remember how Westindies 3rd umpire cheated to get Dhoni out in recent test series.........honestly, how will u know which delivery's hawk eye they are showing for a given appeal?? given their kola veri on India, im sure they will take one lbw hawk eye from archives and play it 11 times - England wins, simple

our first step in fighting this "cricketing terror" from westindies and Aus/Eng is stop using cricinfo......theres always cricbuzz and other sites to check scores and updates from..........

From: MADDY on 28th July 2011 07:39 PM [Full View]

looking at history of cricinfo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPNcricinfo

why people call it a Indian site??

am i missing something obvious there?

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

Maddy, idhai thaanE naan pala varushamA sollikitturukkEn?
:shake-gands:
Ennoda sideku oru veera dheera soora thaLabadhi kidaithu vittAr

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

Maadern youth of forumhub, pls start hate pages, boycott pages for cricinfo in Pacebook, tuiyitter, gokul plus etc.
That will surely tone down cricinfo's aggression - afterall buvvaa speaks loudest
Kamaan, let's give them the jitters

From: Plum on 28th July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Maddy, it is said that cricinfo owners have bought hawkeye or invested heavily in it. Hence the anti bcci and pro hawkeye articles
Wizzy/maddy, idhai research paNNi expose paNNanum

From: MADDY on 28th July 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy, it is said that cricinfo owners have bought hawkeye or invested heavily in it. Hence the anti bcci and pro hawkeye articles
Wizzy/maddy, idhai research paNNi expose paNNanum

ah, why are they so insecure abt the product if its really good.........i saw one "i hate cricinfo" kurup in facebook with just 2 members, its time we added some numbers there

From: sathya_1979 on 28th July 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

ah, why are they so insecure abt the product if its really good.........i saw one "i hate cricinfo" kurup in facebook with just 2 members, its time we added some numbers there

Link pls, I will write Automation project, create 1000s of IDs and become member in that

From: wizzy on 28th July 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Hawkeye has Ecb backing..ACB backs virtual eye..BCCI with so many enemies is wary that the host broadcaster can influence the decisions by reducing the no. of frames used by hawkeye..lesser the frames lesser its effectiveness..
If Seenu mama sides with virtual eye that would be the final nail in hawkeye's coffin due to the costs involved.
BCCI by making hotspot compulsary has virtually stuffed pechakara boards like Sl,PCB,Wi..wait till the SL-OZ series to get over..lots of fun games planned by bcci in future.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 28th July 2011 10:21 PM [Full View]

luckily there has been no controversial lbw decisions wrt graeme swann.....avvlothaan etho periya sootchi panra madhiri paesuvaan....he's the one to have benefitted the maximum with the hawkeye.. If indian manage to salvage a draw in this series iam sure the english will start blaming the lack of hawkeye....but do the bcci actually care.... I think they dont

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 04:08 AM [Full View]

Adhai thaane naanum sonnen. All are rowdies only. Excessive appeal for a clear not out in any period looks sketchy. There was no way Richards could know that was out from the slip cordon is what is amusing.

Originally Posted by Anban

west indies team is unbeatable...the agression they showed was only with the ball and not with the mouth..
AF
that excessive appealing viv did was when no rules were there but the aussies did it when we had all the strict rules intact..there is a difference between the two

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 05:37 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...400/135412.jpg

From: Sourav on 29th July 2011 07:45 AM [Full View]

Sachin is fit but, Gauti is doubtful.
Expected playing XI.
Mukund
Yuvi
Dravid
Sachin
VVS
Raina
Dhoni
Bhajji
Praveen
Ishanth
Sreesanth

From: littlemaster1982 on 29th July 2011 09:10 AM [Full View]

What happened to Gambhir actually

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 09:13 AM [Full View]

Elbow injury - Second innings field appo. Antha oru catch pudichaanae athaan matter nu nenaikiraen.

From: mgb on 29th July 2011 09:19 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

What happened to Gambhir actually

one of the matt prior's pull shots hit gauti's elbow while standing in the forward shortleg and still he is feeling the shock while batting and it is forcing him to take his bottom hand off after every stroke

From: littlemaster1982 on 29th July 2011 09:20 AM [Full View]

Oh, didn't see that

From: littlemaster1982 on 29th July 2011 09:21 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

one of the matt prior's pull shots hit gauti's elbow while standing in the forward shortleg and still he is feeling the shock while batting and it is forcing him to take his bottom hand off after every stroke

Read this in commentary, but didn't know what happened. Thanks Ganesh.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 10:56 AM [Full View]

indha match-layum "perutha" avamaanam dhaan pola. Thozhargale, manasa kallaakkikkunga

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 11:17 AM [Full View]

Bala as I Said I am fully prepared with badhiladi for England fans when England take the #1 ranking during or after this series..
England aren't true #1 until they beat Windies in Windies

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 01:04 PM [Full View]

Rendu kaduppethara vishayam

1. I haven't been particularly bothered by the infamous English media collar-lifting, jaalra (not saying it isn't there, just that i haven't paid much attention) to its cricket team. In fact, i have been much more allergic to our press, news channel, commentator jaalras for our cricket team. Namma panra dhadabudal ku adhigama expose aanadhunaala, idhu dhaan enakku imsai-a theriyidhu. Aana inga potta andha Ayan Botham interview etc idhellam paakkarappa lighta blood boil aagudhu.
Perthu-la irundha andha veri veliya va veliya va veliya vaaaaaa.............

2. Pandhayam katren, Bhajji will do just about enough to retain his place (when has his place ever been in threat?) and "shut his critics mavuths" (adhavadhu namma vaai)

From: scorpio on 29th July 2011 01:20 PM [Full View]

Insensible and stupid news channel Times Now screams- Dhoni's men are ready to lose their No. 1 test ranking to England as an underprepared and wounded Indian team take on england at Trent Bridge blah blah

I hate Times now-nnu oru page FB-la open seyyavum.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 01:25 PM [Full View]

Times Now

Bala, Sir Iron Bottom-ai avaru oorulEyE yArukkum pudikkAdhu. avaingaLE kindal paNnuvAnga. But in general, the players, ECB plus munnAL Aussie players rejoicing in India's defeat idhellAm dhAn kaduppA irukkum

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 03:01 PM [Full View]

Shastrival has already covered weeds back in his pitch report by stating that the pitch got nothing in for weed and he should look to keep things tidy..hope tidy isn't going for 4 rpo..India doomed before a ball being bowled with Gambhir's injury

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 03:03 PM [Full View]

dhoni wins and is is bowling.

uv sree in

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 03:04 PM [Full View]

bresnan in for omlet

From: hamid on 29th July 2011 03:07 PM [Full View]

won the toss and elected bowling?

oh.. no.. not again...

From: Dinesh84 on 29th July 2011 03:10 PM [Full View]

Dhoni: We'll bowl first. Looks like a good wicket and it will remain the same. Sreesanth and Yuvraj are in. It is an opportunity for them to prove themselves. Rahul will open and Laxman will bat at number 3. We had a long discussion about it and we feel this is the best order. There is plenty of cricket left in the series so hope to comeback.

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

follow the match updates here:

http://live.cricbuzz.com/live/scorec...India-2nd-Test

From: ajaybaskar on 29th July 2011 03:42 PM [Full View]

cricinfo use panna venaamnu solreenga?

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 03:54 PM [Full View]

hey cricbuzz nalla raasi yaa...

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 03:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

hey cricbuzz nalla raasi yaa...

same same

....its much lighter than cricinfo as well

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 03:58 PM [Full View]

i have always seen it one or two balls faster too.
only thing which would make us go to cricinfo is, the ui, old stats and the articles.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

come on sree!!
in the middle of difficulty lies.....

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

10.4
Sreesanth to Trott, OUT, 134.6 kph, edged, gone! Swinging away outside off, Trott comes forward to drive and nicks the ball straight to Laxman at second slip. That was just the line Sreesanth was bowling to Strauss, but it's perfect to the right-hander. That'll calm Sreesanth down, a great way for him to start after coming back into the side.
IJL Trott c Laxman b Sreesanth 4 (15b 1x4 0x6) SR: 26.66

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

i have always seen it one or two balls faster too.
only thing which would make us go to cricinfo is, the ui, old stats and the articles.

2 wickets-um vizhindhudichhu, inimelum cricinfo paakanuma???

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 04:33 PM [Full View]

namma styleE thani. maththa ellA teamum Trott and Cook-au out Akka mudiyAma thavichchA, namma avangaLai out Akkittu, Pietersen/Prior/Strauss/Bell kitta thadavuvOm. Lower order is always a threat against India - nothing new in that. Fidel EdwardslAmE adippAnunga. Broad-Swann-Bresnan-Anderson kEkkavE vENAm

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

good start here....hope they carry on in the same mould

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Sourav Ganguly on air again this time about South Indians: He says that Sreesanth will be the most attentive kid when he is listening to someone outside the ground and then go on and do the exact opposite on it. And he says that the South Indians have a peculiar habit of toppling over on their kit bags and cites Dinesh Karthik as an example.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 04:45 PM [Full View]

namma cheekavum apdi thAn thadukki vizhuvArAm.

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 04:51 PM [Full View]

Why Yuvaraj? Munaf Patel or Amit Mishra could have been selected.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 04:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

Why Yuvaraj? Munaf Patel or Amit Mishra could have been selected.

munaf or amit can't bat that well in the middle order, especially in england conditions.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

Praveen Kumar to Pietersen, no run, Everyone is shocked that it wasn't given out! Pietersen was a long way down and missed the flick, struck him in line and the replays show that it was hitting the top of the stumps. Erasmus had a long look and didn't give it out. Two errors from Erasmus in the game so far. Praveen Kumar is livid and the normally subdued Dravid too vents his frustration out from slip. That was PLUMB!

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

"Oh dear, Praveen is furious. He is bawling out umpire Erasmus now, and Harbhajan has to step in and drag him away. He's obviously crossed a line here, and he could find himself getting in a lot of trouble with the match referee. "

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Praveen Kumar to Pietersen, no run, Everyone is shocked that it wasn't given out! Pietersen was a long way down and missed the flick, struck him in line and the replays show that it was hitting the top of the stumps. Erasmus had a long look and didn't give it out. Two errors from Erasmus in the game so far. Praveen Kumar is livid and the normally subdued Dravid too vents his frustration out from slip. That was PLUMB!

naamadhaanE DRS for LBW vENaamnu sonnOm. ippO vaangadaa paakalaamnu ECB koopadaraanga pOla!

thiruttu thanathula veLLaikkaaranai adichukka mudiyaadhu, adichukka mudiyaadhu

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 05:00 PM [Full View]

Read elsewhere - Once upon a time, Dhoni used to lose tosses and win the matches;now, he is winning tosses but losing matches

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

arignar Plum anRE sonnaar, modhalla naama solRa sila vishayathukku OK solRa maadhiri solli silentaa avanga agendaava koNdu vandhiduvaangannu - Like the tries to establish the "nashanal laanguvEge" Hindi!

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

Sathya, to be fair, Erasmus gave a doubtful lbw for Trott earlier. So looks like plain incompetence than conspiracy

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

munaf or amit can bat that well in the middle order, especially in england conditions.

Why we concern about our batting while bowling sector is very weakened? A Mukund, R Dravid, VVS Laxman, SR Tendulkar, SK Raina, MS Dhoni - 6 batsmen are well enough.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

"Oh dear, Praveen is furious. He is bawling out umpire Erasmus now, and Harbhajan has to step in and drag him away. He's obviously crossed a line here, and he could find himself getting in a lot of trouble with the match referee. "

hate cricinfo'ku automation eludharenu sollittu ippo follow pannitu irukkeenga...

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

apparently ganguly said this

Originally Posted by Saurav Ganguly

Sreesanth bowls well at South Africans. He has removed Trott. Now he has another South African to bowl to.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Sathya, to be fair, Erasmus gave a doubtful lbw for Trott earlier. So looks like plain incompetence than conspiracy

adhukku munnaadi oru out thappaa kuduthadhu yaaru? Rauf? if so I understand that it is a combined conspiracy. If one umpire gives continuous bad decisions, India will raise their voice and will eliminate him. So, ellaarum thappu senjaa?

Out of 10 bad decisions 1 or 2 may go in India's way and the rest to Eng - This is the plan.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

Why we concern about our batting while bowling sector is very weakened? A Mukund, R Dravid, VVS Laxman, SR Tendulkar, SK Raina, MS Dhoni - 6 batsmen are well enough.

if it was well enough we could hav atleast drawn the last match.
with all these batman along with gambhir, we could not score even a 300 in both the innings, under good batting conditions.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

hate cricinfo'ku automation eludharenu sollittu ippo follow pannitu irukkeenga...

That was from Guardian. Cricinfo is blocked. All sites with live scores are blocked. Guardian mattum eppadiyO browse seiyya mudiyudhu!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:07 PM [Full View]

ellaam onnudhaan.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ellaam onnudhaan.

inga yaarum regularaa update seiyya maattEngareenga, naan eppadi score follow seiyyaradhu?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

It is a crame not to have a 3rd man in tests, Ethana thadava solradhu!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

apdi'na thevaikkaaga kolgaya maatthikkiradhaa?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Ishant to Pietersen, no run, All-out action on this delivery. First it nips back in to strike Pietersen in the unmentionables. Pietersen shuffled across and it caught him right where it pains the most. Then Pietersen walks across to have a stare at Mukund who was smiling. A few words exchanged too. Alan Wilkins on air calls it bulls-eye, while Ganguly chips in wittily: That just missed the edge! Wonder what edge he was talking about.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

apdi'na thevaikkaaga kolgaya maatthikkiradhaa?

.................

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

SS
Enakkum puriyaliye...

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

CC thread la post seiyya vENdiyadhu thappA inga vandhiduchunu nenaikkirEn!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

inga yaarum regularaa update seiyya maattEngareenga, naan eppadi score follow seiyyaradhu?

Originally Posted by SoftSword

apdi'na thevaikkaaga kolgaya maatthikkiradhaa?

this is the sequence.
guardian'um english dhaan illayaa?

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

this is the sequence.
guardian'um english dhaan illayaa?

Got yuvar point! Closed Guardian Link

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

23.6Praveen Kumar to Strauss, no run, another loud shout for LBW, but maybe Strauss got an inside edge. It swung in to miss Strauss's flick and struck him low on the pad too. But too much doubt in that and Erasmus negates the appeal. Replays show that there was no bat. Hawk Eye shows it was clipping the top of the stumps. But a fair call I would say in the end.

third one denied for praveen!!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:23 PM [Full View]

61/2 25 overs.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:23 PM [Full View]

So, now the onus is on you to keep updating the scores here

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 05:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

23.6Praveen Kumar to Strauss, no run, another loud shout for LBW, but maybe Strauss got an inside edge. It swung in to miss Strauss's flick and struck him low on the pad too. But too much doubt in that and Erasmus negates the appeal. Replays show that there was no bat. Hawk Eye shows it was clipping the top of the stumps. But a fair call I would say in the end.

third one denied for praveen!!

adhaan sonnEnE combined conspiracy nu!

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 05:27 PM [Full View]

This tour is going similar to the Australia 2008 tour.
Zaheer gaali, Rahul to open, Yuvi in middle order, Dodgy umpiring decisions. Trentbridge 2011=Sydney 2008.

kamaan bhajji, doesnt Andersen look like a monkey?

From: scorpio on 29th July 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Super Star KP-um Sothai star Strauss-um inikku century-aa?

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:36 PM [Full View]

69/2 27 ovs - lunch.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Super Star KP-um Sothai star Strauss-um inikku century-aa?

this is not our practice match.

From: KV on 29th July 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

Sattru munbu:
Harbhajan Singh, right-arm off break, comes into the attack

Harbhajan to Strauss, FOUR!!, and what does he do? He drags it short and wide to give a starter to Strauss just before the main course due in 4 minutes time. Strauss duly accepts the gift and cuts it wide of backward point. Bad ball and a bad start for Harbhajan.

vaada dey machi....vaalakka bajji....un thalaya pichchu...podaporen bajji....eh dandanaka eh danakanaka
Vaazhga selection kamnattees!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

pona testla kooda dhaan first ball wicket ball poattaan....
adhukkaga appo selection sarinu solla mudiyuma?

From: KV on 29th July 2011 05:54 PM [Full View]

modhallaye gaand aa irkku. Andha grand entry patthi padicha odanne innum konjam manasu urutthchu...

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

onnum panna mudiyaadhu...
namakku kudutthirukka vandi eppidi odudhunu pappom....

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

got him!!! super bowling....

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 06:17 PM [Full View]

27.5Sreesanth to Pietersen, out Caught by Raina!! THAT outswinger from Sree once again! Pietersen c Raina b Sreesanth 29(53) [4s-4]73/3

From: Dinesh84 on 29th July 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

Crysanth

From: Dinesh84 on 29th July 2011 06:27 PM [Full View]

Sreesanth to Bell, no run, weird moment that - Sree dives forward to take a 'catch' and then starts celebrating, only to find that none of his teammates are supporting him!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

excellent bowling here!!! strauss gone.....come on india!!!

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

arumai....
after longtime all the three pacers bowling wicket taking deliveries.

From: Sourav on 29th July 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

4 wkts gone!

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

85/5 Yaay..

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

adra adra adra....

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

wow!!! he's got another one......

From: Sourav on 29th July 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

5 gone now.... praveeennnn...

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

future no.1 team wont be at 85/5 against a depleted foreign attack on day1 pitch......i dont think England qualify to be called "future no.1 team"

makkale, following scores in cricbuzz is working wonders, atleast thus far - abandon cricinfo

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

வெல்டன் குமாரு!

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

281/5 to 474/7 decl
62/5 to 269/6 decl
85/5 to. ?

From: Dinesh84 on 29th July 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

Kumar to Strauss, OUT, Kumar strikes, Strauss's long vigil ends. Is this an elaborate set-up? After bowling wide and wide last over, he bowls this sucker ball around off, making Strauss drive, which moves away and takes the edge through to third slip. Most likely it isn't a set-up, we just happen to read too much into things at time

AJ Strauss c Raina b Kumar 32 (98b 4x4 0x6) SR: 32.65

@ crookedinfo

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 07:04 PM [Full View]

Maddy, indha superstition-ai tuyitter pacebookla parappunga
India epdiyum tohokkum but cricinfi pozhappaiyavadhu kedukkalaame...

From: scorpio on 29th July 2011 07:05 PM [Full View]

Besht WK-batsman Prior at the crease

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 07:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy, indha superstition-ai tuyitter pacebookla parappunga
India epdiyum tohokkum but cricinfi pozhappaiyavadhu kedukkalaame...

kandippa, i had one member request - ive never known the guy - so it is working

makkale - another gentil reminder

, join http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...4407706645745/

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

இன்னும் நாற்பது ஓவர் தாக்கு புடிப்பானுங்களா? அவனுங்க தாக்கு புடிக்கலன்னாலும் பரவாயில்லை. நம்ம முகுந்த் தாக்கு புடிக்கணும்.

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

Sexcellent ball da sreesanth

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Besht WK-batsman Prior at the crease

thookittom...
sreee... namma paya...

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Besht WK-batsman Prior at the crease

wow, yes out for 25% strike rate, does Dhoni have this strike rate??

From: Sourav on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

6! :d ......

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

பெரியாரும் அவுட்.

சிறிசாந்த்

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 07:15 PM [Full View]

prior's gone too!!!! sreesanth

...in any case excellent bowling

From: villan007 on 29th July 2011 07:16 PM [Full View]

what a ball to get rid of Prior

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

This spell from Sreesanth reminds me of the one which Ishant bowled to Ponting in Australia during the 2008 Test series. Just like then, Sreesanth asked Dhoni for one more over and has justified it with a vital strike.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

Sreesanth asked Dhoni for one more over and has justified it with a vital strike.

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 07:18 PM [Full View]

Last 10 ovs 12/3 RR 1.20

இப்போதான் மொத மொதல்ல ஏழரை பிடிக்க ஆரம்பிச்சிருக்கு அவனுங்களுக்கு!

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

another gem from Cricinfo nincompoops:

George Binoy, who will be writing the report for today, says, "That Sreesanth ball was Dale Steyn at 12kph slower."

.........adhavadhu appreciate-um pannanum, kindal-um pannidanum.........

they are so rattled that they are typing blunders:

India have done well here, but England don't have a tail in this Test.

they meant to write England do have a tail but they typed it as dont have

saavungada

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

Ishanth wide aa podathada loosu.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

they meant to write England do have a tail but they typed it as dont have

saavungada

adhu apdi illa maddy...
dont have a tail - apdinaa teamla 11 perumae thalaiyaam.. vaalunu yaarayum solla mudiyaadhaam...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:28 PM [Full View]

dropped............

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:29 PM [Full View]

Dravidddddddddd

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:29 PM [Full View]

dravid missed one again.

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Did he miss one earlier today?/.

Originally Posted by SoftSword

dravid missed one again.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

dravid's dropped one.....just hope this doesn't let the boil off england

From: scorpio on 29th July 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

150-kuLLa suruttidungappa. Broad, fraud-llam adichura pOraanga !

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

Ishant - Either wrong line or wrong length

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

this was not a bad one...

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

Kumar to Bell, no run, 124.0 kph, Dravid is not in great form in the slips! About the sixth or seventh he has dropped in the last year and a half. This is very well bowled, around off, straightening, just holding its line, takes Bell's edge, low to Dravid's right, who has it in his finger tips as he dives, and when the elbows hit the ground, the ball pops out. Kumar is not thrilled

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

dhoni bring back sreesanth.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:38 PM [Full View]

superb ball by Praveen

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:38 PM [Full View]

Ayyo bell-u set aayitan

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 07:41 PM [Full View]

it would be better if sree is brought back...cant allow the so called remaining batsmen a chance to get back.....oh dravid

oh he's just back

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:44 PM [Full View]

As usual, we will let the tail off the hook and our innings will cave in much faster. Second innings la oralavu nalla poduvom, 4th innings la meendum collapse.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Did he miss one earlier today?/.

apdi illai... last match in both the innings he missed crucial catches i guess.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

Ishant

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

Next match I would rather go with 4 seamers.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

............. Ishant bowling rubbish

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:46 PM [Full View]

Dei ishanth dont bowl short or to the leg. Make the batsmen play.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:48 PM [Full View]

idhula mazhai vera varum pola.... .. lighta megamoottam irundha play suspended

@ cricket

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:52 PM [Full View]

no worries... no rain predictions.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Taiyken this time!

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Dravidd

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

arumai... dravid.

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

would like to see Botham, michael holding, Naseer hussain's faces now

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

brilliant catch here!!!!

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:00 PM [Full View]

B power - Bresnan, Broad, Bell.
Idhukkapuram Swann and nightwatchman Anderson

Gounder in ueu: ippo pudingadaa paarkalam indhiya browniues

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

I would love Yuvraj bowling to barbie now

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

would like to see Botham, michael holding, Naseer hussain's faces now

Sir Iron Bottom: adi kuduththa kai puLLayE ivlo sattai kizhinjurundha adi vangina Dhoni nelamai epdi irukkum?

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

maddy, ope u understood the no tail statement.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 08:06 PM [Full View]

marupadiyum short of length leg side

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:06 PM [Full View]

bell'ku mani adichachu....

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Ishanthaaaaa !!!

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Superb fightback by England. The value of these runs scored by England lower order will be known when India batting collapses

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Avutttttt....

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

innakkae naama bat pannanum polayae...

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

"Thirumba thirumba pesura nee"

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

marupadiyum short of length leg side

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 08:11 PM [Full View]

....................

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:12 PM [Full View]

vaada sree.... vandhu meedhiyayum kazhuvi ootthu...

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 08:15 PM [Full View]

கழுத்தை நெரிச்சிருவான் போல!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...400/135435.jpg

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

இன்னும் ரெண்டே ரெண்டு விக்கட்டுதான்! அதையும் சிறிசாந்த், குமார், இஷாந்த் யாரேனும் எடுத்துட்டா பஜ்ஜிக்கு வேலையே இல்லை.

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I would love Yuvraj bowling to barbie now

naanum naanum

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Zaheer , Ishanth , Sreesanth and Kumar ... Yuvi ah vachi spin potukalam ...

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

BBC Test Match Special's Geoff Boycott "India won every round in that session. They have used the conditions, they’ve bowled pretty well and they’ve caught pretty well. England have had one or two good balls – the ones that dismissed Pietersen and Prior for example - but some have also played one or two poor shots. The ball has done a bit, to be fair, but we should not be eight down. As a result India are well on top, no question."

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

இன்னும் ரெண்டே ரெண்டு விக்கட்டுதான்! அதையும் சிறிசாந்த், குமார், இஷாந்த் யாரேனும் எடுத்துட்டா பஜ்ஜிக்கு வேலையே இல்லை.

enna ipdi solliteenga...
with zaheer missing out, bhajji is like the mentor for all these yeng bowlers...
he encourages them, pats them, helps them set the fields, walks to them between run-ups to say inspiring words...
its not always the materialistic contributions which matters... mind it.

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 08:26 PM [Full View]

To have any chance in this match india needs to restrict England within 150 runs.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

and ganguly was wondering and criticizing dhoni's decision to bowl first...
none of them are to be blamed, its jus that certain decisions hav certain reasons and instincts... it could hav gone wrong as well.

From: mgb on 29th July 2011 08:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Zaheer , Ishanth , Sreesanth and Kumar ... Yuvi ah vachi spin potukalam ...

romba unarchi vasapada koodaadhu.. next match viru/gauti vandhuduvanga.. so yuvi cant be there

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:28 PM [Full View]

PErAsai. Kai pulla indiavE ipdi bowling paNNinA, kattadorai England epdi bowl paNNuvAnga?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

India batting-a nenacha.. first time i'm going to watch Iyengar bat

Adhukkulla edhukku tea saapda poirukkaanga

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

on first day Generally English pitches favor bowlers. England would have opt to field if they had won the toss too.

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

romba unarchi vasapada koodaadhu.. next match viru/gauti vandhuduvanga.. so yuvi cant be there

Gauti vara maataanu nenanchaen

Viru va maranthutaen

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 08:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

romba unarchi vasapada koodaadhu.. next match viru/gauti vandhuduvanga.. so yuvi cant be there

but bhajji will be there all the time.

From: MADDY on 29th July 2011 08:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

maddy, ope u understood the no tail statement.

yea got it now, thanks

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 08:37 PM [Full View]

ஆல்ரவுண்டர் அகலர் என்ன செய்றார்னு பார்ப்போம்!

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:38 PM [Full View]

Swann attack pannuraan thidirnu

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

Bala - innikku pooram england batting dhaan. Kadaisila oru 10(+ or - 5) over vENA india bat paNNa chance irukku.
Agalam and annam counter attack paarunga.
Koo is iyengar? MukundanA? Avan kaN moodi thoRakaradhukulla out aayiduvvan. Cook, TrottE first innings fail. Ivan epdi succeed avaan

From: raghavendran on 29th July 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

excellant bowling Sreesanth and Praveen

..Ishanth bad bowling throughout but surprisingly comes up with unplayable ones...but overall he was too short throughout..its just run up and hit the seam at full length..the conditions and the pitch is doing the rest.....Indian batting nenacha bayama irukku..hope they get atleast 100 runs lead..Anderson has got 5,6,7 wicket hauls on this ground..

From: Sourav on 29th July 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

4,4-a povuthu....

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:43 PM [Full View]

5 fours after tea

. Pona vaati mariyae adichu papom bayanthuruvaanganu solli anupirupaanga pola. 200 kulla surutanum ...

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

வாவ்.. அவங்களோட மொதோ இன்னிங்க்ஸ் இப்பதான் கல கட்ட ஆரம்பிச்சிருக்கு!

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

sutham garbhajan bolwing

From: raghavendran on 29th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

last rendu wicketai vizhthi 2 wicket haul oda varuvan parunga namma singam

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

aiyo kanavum kai nazhuvi poguthaenu thaan paada vendi irukum polavae

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

49 run shippp

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

sema planning by dhoni...
tailenders'ta vittu adi vaanga vekkiraan...

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

Man of the series Broad.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Softie, any advice for bhajji w.r.t flavoured mocha manufactured by Swann?

From: raghavendran on 29th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

poor bowling...wrong length...Broad polakaran

...India velaya kata arambikiranga

From: satissh_r on 29th July 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

Cant bowl, Cant bat, Cant field yet will play in all the matches

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

Idhukku than zaheer venum. He would have bowled a yorker an inswinger and outswinger and after every ball nalla moraichu edho pesuvan

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

bhajji'ku yaaru advice'um thevai illa...
avan oru suyambu...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Idhukku than zaheer venum. He would have bowled a yorker an inswinger and outswinger and after every ball nalla moraichu edho pesuvan

Adhellaam sari, aana run-up ku thirumbi porakulla kaal sulukku pduchirum, mudhugu strain aidum (cubikuzh la okkaandhu ippadi assault-a pesaraan paarunga, avan dhaan saar kadavul)

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Broad SR : 121.87
இதுவரைக்கும் டெஸ்ட் மேட்ச நம்மாளுக ஒன்டே போல மாத்துவாணுங்க...இப்போ 20/20 ஆக்கிட்டானுங்க. நல்ல முன்னேற்றம்!

From: HonestRaj on 29th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

bhajji'ku yaaru advice'um thevai illa...
avan oru suyambu...

avan oru gaali sombu

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Dei evanavadhu wicket edungada!!

From: raghavendran on 29th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Zaheer should have been match fit before..simple as that..BCCI sodhapals..0 match practice..romba mukki try pannan, and in cold conditions..adhan sulikichu,,,

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Honest! யாருங்க உங்க அவதார்! நீங்களா?

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

Appeal to Chris Broad + we have given life to your son's career. Pls remember that when you referee us next

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

no 200 pls.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

india's lowest total in England is 42 all out. Just saying

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

dei york him idiots. At-least you can get a lbw shout.

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

bring sree.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Adhellaam sari, aana run-up ku thirumbi porakulla kaal sulukku pduchirum, mudhugu strain aidum (cubikuzh la okkaandhu ippadi assault-a pesaraan paarunga, avan dhaan saar kadavul)

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

shabbbaaa!!!! But well played swann

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

dei york him idiots. At-least you can get a lbw shout.

oru bouncer kooda poda maatraanunga, I mean to Swann...

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Swann out @#$&@#$&*@#*$@*&$^@*#$^@&*#$^@*#$^@&*#^$@*&#$

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

happada... avut...

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

This is where we need Kuil Kumble... Just to clean up the tail....

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Anderson sutha dabba thaane batting la?

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Last Tour Nottingham match - Eng 198 all out, India won by 8 wickets! Nostalgia?

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

From Cricinfo - India appeal, Swann walks. Praveen has a wicket, but he continues to scowl. What a character!

He He... Enakkum PK moonjiya paathale pidika matenguthu..

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 09:24 PM [Full View]

BTW Sachin is playing in his 100th test away from home

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

praveen kumaarrr. kaila enna man vechirukkae ball ippadi swing aagudhu

From: HonestRaj on 29th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

This is where we need Kuil Kumble... Just to clean up the tail....

eppavum nan solven.. ippo neenga..

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Anderson : Thambi enakku batting varaathu pa, ennaya poi oru over fulla pidikka vittukittu irukaye

Broad: Anne enna ne pesara nee, nee yaar kooda vilayadikittu irukka nu theriyuma, avinga onnum seyya maataanga ne....

Anderson: Irunthaalum.....

Broad: Anne enakkum ivingaloda vlaadarathukku munndi unna maadri thaan ne pheelingu... ippo ennaya ellam ivinga train panni oru periya batsman aaki vidala, Naalaikku CUB la plum maadri vimarsagar ellam unna man of the series nu solluvaainga ne... dhayiriyama vlaadu...

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 29th July 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

Have the conditions improved for batting? If not its been a preposterous performance by the indians. ..really irritaing to watch broad maul the bowlers....

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 09:44 PM [Full View]

Andersen went 55 innings without a duck. He is no muyal.
England showed thye are the true #1 with this fightback

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

kamaan kamaan Plum

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

Well played broad

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Ennaththa kamaan. Kaamedy pieceAvE pArkaRinga i- naan seriousA pEsi kiturrukkEn. England truly #1 yA. Broad is the new Gilchrist!

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

At last highest scorer of the innings ah out pannathu aanan Harbajhan avargal

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

124/8 -221. Perennial Indian problem .

From: VinodKumar's on 29th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

"Bhajji goes past Ambrose, wicket No. 406 for him."

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

Mark my words - india will regret both the runs conceded and the momentum lost to Broad, Swann and the rest of the lower order.

And let me remind that someone predicted that this series will be the death knell for the fab 4 - like the 78 Pak tour was for the great indian spinners. Clearly, that is coming true. Only Venkatraghavan survived that tour. Dravid opening means 2 slots wasted - #2 and #3
#1 is wasted on Mukund
#3 on Laxman
#5 on Raina
Tendulkar is a gone case in this series
So all depends on Bhajji and Yuvi with dHoni also not up to batting in these conditions

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Terrific Start

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:01 PM [Full View]

India's should first try to avoid follow on by follow on by scoring twenty two runs and unfortunately they have lost the first wicket already.

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cinema

India's should first try to avoid follow on by follow on by scoring twenty two runs and unfortunately they have lost the first wicket already.

idhellaam over aamaam!

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Anyway by Mukund did his part and it is upto other players to share the responsibility.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

I want to quote my post and congratulate myself. Collapse commences, Baba counting starts

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:06 PM [Full View]

Tottadoing

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:06 PM [Full View]

India is the only team, who has knack of getting into trouble even in the very low scoring matches. Laxman is at no. 3 and played out five balls without losing his wicket. I still hope India can avoid follow on this time.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:07 PM [Full View]

Bala, iyengar batting paarkanum, iyengar batting paarkanumneeyalE paartheeyalaa?

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

India has yet to score single run in the second innings. Still 22 more runs to go to avoid follow-on. Come on India you can do it.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Anyone here any doubts who is the true #1 side? Maddy? Ippovavadhu othukkunga England future #1 illai current #1-nu

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Tamilnadu batsmen

. Ungalai ellam

. Gavaskar summavae vaayla vadai suduvaan.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 10:10 PM [Full View]

Tholvi nilai ena ninaithaal, manithan vaazhvai ninaikalaama.....

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:11 PM [Full View]

Thanks to leg bye. We have our first run on the board and that too without losing the second wicket. Way to go India.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 10:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Anyone here any doubts who is the true #1 side? Maddy? Ippovavadhu othukkunga England future #1 illai current #1-nu

Boss rating enna solluthu, enga oorukku vaanga appo puriyum yaar nembar one nu...

Eng SA la enna pannaraanga nu paapom....

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:16 PM [Full View]

Staying passively never helped. Laxman and Dravid aren't going to put together a match winning stand with this kind of batting

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

In 1954, india made the worst start in test cricket - 0/4 against England

This will probably the next worst. Pity there's no Vinoo Mankad in this team. All show pony flat track bullies vonly

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 10:24 PM [Full View]

Mukunda has played his last test for India..Gambhir strategic injury!

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 10:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Bala, iyengar batting paarkanum, iyengar batting paarkanumneeyalE paartheeyalaa?

Literal-a, paakkarthukkulla ulla poittaan

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:30 PM [Full View]

sirikkAma irukka mudiyala. Office friend watching TV on Broad:
Sema figure-u

From: venkkiram on 29th July 2011 10:30 PM [Full View]

இரண்டாவது இன்னின்ஸில் முகுந்தன் அரை சதம் அடிக்கிறான்.

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 10:33 PM [Full View]

India missed services of our best overseas opener Dinesh kulla karthik,..

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 10:36 PM [Full View]

hey alan wilkins idhu unaku inside edge aa?

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

Yenga, namakku endha ooru??

.

Originally Posted by wizzy

India missed services of our best overseas opener Dinesh kulla karthik,..

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

^how many overs left?

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 10:39 PM [Full View]

9 and a half. but play closes at 6;30. So whichever is earlier.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:40 PM [Full View]

Yes, thambi dineshukku seidha aniyaayam dhaan indru indhiayava thORkadikkiRadhu

Conclusion: viru, gauti et al only for non-England tests. Englandla enga dines thambi teknikal batting vEnumla

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:40 PM [Full View]

Laxmanukku kozhandhai irukkaa?

From: SoftSword on 29th July 2011 10:42 PM [Full View]

why do i smell only negative gas here....
if everyone talks negative for everthing in this world then how would it be...
come on guys.... lets show the spirit which we showed in the first two innings....

we ll take command...

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 10:43 PM [Full View]

For all his crapiness with the gloves..Dinesh karthik is best batsman to have come from TN.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

En sathya adhula enna shock. Laxmanukku virility test paNNina doctor mAdhiri shock AgaRInga?

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

En sathya adhula enna shock. Laxmanukku virility test paNNina doctor mAdhiri shock AgaRInga?

no no, pEr solla oru piLLai porakkum munbu padaadha edathula pattu Edaakoodamaa aagida pOgudhu! BTW, both Lax and Wall solid in defence

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:46 PM [Full View]

Laxman's strike rate is all time high. Way to go. Just 6 more runs and india will be out of trouble.

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 10:49 PM [Full View]

Broad had a sex change operation? never seen him bowl like this before

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:53 PM [Full View]

Sometimes I wish I have the porumai and concentration powers of the wall! Whatta Playa!

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

do they start with new ball on every innings or they will carry the ball from previous innings if it has not completed the quota? Please clarify.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 10:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Literal-a, paakkarthukkulla ulla poittaan

Neenga paakathathunaala thaan avan kochukittu ulla poitaan....

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 10:56 PM [Full View]

New ball every Innings.

And if during the innings if they reach 80 overs, bowling side gets an option of the new ball and it goes on for every 80 overs.

Originally Posted by cinema

do they start with new ball on every innings or they will carry the ball from previous innings if it has not completed the quota? Please clarify.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 10:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cinema

do they start with new ball on every innings or they will carry the ball from previous innings if it has not completed the quota? Please clarify.

New ball to start a new innings...

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:57 PM [Full View]

ok thanks Kalyan and AF.

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

India has done it and no more follow-on on this test.

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

Sunny on Mukund - look at that, bat way high, no feet movement, the influence of ODIs.

Mukund eppoNNE ODI AdinAn?

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 10:59 PM [Full View]

Inference: Gavaskar is dangerous than croockinfo for TN Players

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 10:59 PM [Full View]

Bresnan the talisman for England

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 11:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Sunny on Mukund - look at that, bat way high, no feet movement, the influence of ODIs.

Mukund eppoNNE ODI AdinAn?

LOC thaan avar maathi sollitaaru...

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 11:00 PM [Full View]

Santh the Taliban of India

From: sathya_1979 on 29th July 2011 11:02 PM [Full View]

Survived! Koot Defence

300 to 325 for max 2 / 3 EOD tomorrow

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 11:02 PM [Full View]

Most of the runs has to come from the trinity..can't see Cskraina,Yuvi,Dhoni lasting more than a over on this pitch.

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 11:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Survived! Koot Defence

300 to 325 for max 2 / 3 EOD tomorrow

According to Buddha; Desire is the root cause of all miseries.

From: Kalyasi on 29th July 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Intha maadri pitch la thaan annan Dhoni kelapuvaar....

From: cinema on 29th July 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Most of the runs has to come from the trinity..can't see Cskraina,Yuvi,Dhoni lasting more than a over on this pitch.

Yes. But if they counter attack then they will play more than one hour.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th July 2011 11:07 PM [Full View]

Bresnan is the Krishnan of England. Naalaikku paarunga parade-a kelappuvaar

From: Plum on 29th July 2011 11:12 PM [Full View]

Krishnan

Adhu epdi Bala ungaLAla mattum ipdi...

From: vanchi on 29th July 2011 11:13 PM [Full View]

armaiyana panthuveechu.

kalam kalama irukkura valzakkapadi taila adikka vuttutainga.

battingla oru kai paruthuruvomle

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 11:15 PM [Full View]

Sreesanth is a must for the rest of the matches. I would rather go with 4 seamers, here on. Harbhajan ae idhukku mela vechirukka koodathu. Even if it is an assisting pitch I would back the seamers to do well.

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

^Weed is the emotional leader of the team..he keeps up the team spirit..also with 4 seamers India will bowl about 10 overs per hour..

From: ajithfederer on 29th July 2011 11:30 PM [Full View]

Let dhoni get a ban. Ippo enna aagida pogudhu.

. Bhaji-ae vechu fastaa veesitalum.

From: vanchi on 29th July 2011 11:35 PM [Full View]

dada rocks in the commie box

nice to see him among the diff jugheads

From: wizzy on 29th July 2011 11:40 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/inline/c...5161.jpg?alt=5

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 12:36 AM [Full View]

A pitch where Broad and Swann seemed most comfortable tells us that prev experience matters here. Even if MSD and our bowlers let them off the hook. Trinity ought to take responsibility and see us thro tomorrow. Dada the savior of starcricket (love the Azhar signalling bit to face Wasim bhai), which I am watching after a long time as I dont suscribe to it at home.

On a vacation here in cumili. No sight seeing plans after resume of play tomrw. Good test. Great day for Indhiya.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 12:48 AM [Full View]

Dada is cool!
Damn the guy is neat and has a sly yet funny way of making his point. His chat with Sreesanth and then his insights into the gentleman-likeness of Rahul in the slips was cool. Then he spoke about how Laxman kicked him out of second slip position and that dem boys wouldn't allow him back in the slip cordon in spite of him being captain. The best was his dig at the younger slipper. Classic! They mentioned Ricky Pawning and Dada sez something like Pawning is over coz Slipper is in.

I loved it when Gangu said Pwnting needs to careful till the time Chappel is the selector.

Taken from another forum.

Ganggullllyyyy

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 01:17 AM [Full View]

One thing abt Rahul's spike in catching stats is the Wk stint, thght Dada would point that out.

From: nvikky on 30th July 2011 01:39 AM [Full View]

It was too good to see Ganguly talk during the tea time show with Allan wilkins and wasim akram about the conversation between Azhar and Ganguly during the 99 Delhi test and how Ganguly found the type of delivery wasim akram is going to bowl based on indications by Azhar. If shine was on right side, Azhar, non-striker would have his bat in the right hand and Ganguly would know that he is going to get a out-swinger and same way he held is bat in hand seeing akram's position of shiny side revealing to ganguly that he is going to get an in-swinger.. too good.. Ganguly is frank but nice in the commentary box and shows during breaks..

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 02:32 AM [Full View]

It was really cool to see Wasim and Dada discussing a match, Delhi 99 test:
Saurav speaks

"We lost a few quick wickets when I joined Azhar in the middle. I asked "what's happening?". He replied, "You find out". The first ball was an awayswinger, I thought. Played forward defensive. The ball went between my legs to fine leg. At the end of the over I asked Azhar, "What was that? That looked like an outswinger, but came in." Azhar says, "That's what I am thinking for the last 20 min. I don't know what's happening, hope you will." After another hairraising over, we devised a plan. Wasim used to shield the ball from the batsman, but the runner had a view. So we decided that the runner would hold the bat in the direction the ball was exppected to swing. It didn't work, and we lost Azhar. Then I decided I would play everything for inswing. He is swinging the ball so much thata if it is awayswinger or even a straight ball, I would miss it by at least 6 inches. If I played for an outswinger and got an inswinger, I would have been in trouble. Less danger this way."

Wasim:

I remember. I beat you every other delivery for 3-4 overs. He was playing for inswing on every ball. He got under my skin totally. Bowled a few at his head.

Sourav:

When Wasim started bowling bouncers, I felt relieved... I knew I had gotten him annoyed and rattIed... might even survive the session

Long time since I have enjoyed the commentary so much

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 02:32 AM [Full View]

Yesterday Alan Wilkins asked him about how Sachin used to talk to him if he would get beaten by a good delivery.

Dada replied "He would come to me and tell me something in bengali like - kEMANASO.. TOUCH NA KAR.(let it go). I had to tell him to not to confuse me and speak only in English since his bengali wasn't that good"

From: nvikky on 30th July 2011 03:27 AM [Full View]

sachin always tried to speak bengali to Sourav and he was never good it seems..

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 05:58 AM [Full View]

Any links for watching text match highlights? thanks.

From: villan007 on 30th July 2011 07:06 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Long time since I have enjoyed the commentary so much

Pre-show, Post-show lam idhukagave paakalam

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:11 AM [Full View]

http://cricfire.com/highlights/categ...-v-india-2011/

Originally Posted by venkkiram

Any links for watching text match highlights? thanks.

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 07:14 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Broad had a sex change operation? never seen him bowl like this before

...as much as i despise him for his antics, he has provided the best moments so far in this series for me as a viewer, apart from RD's batting. Couple of overs to RD in the second innings at Lord's and another couple last evening were test cricket at its best in recent times! It had to be The Wall at the other end to have survived those spells...no more IPLs SLPLs please, we want more of this!!!

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 08:29 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

http://cricfire.com/highlights/categ...-v-india-2011/

நன்றி ajithfederer!

இஷாந்த் ஹேர் கட்டிங் செய்திருக்கிறார் போல. இப்பதான் ரொம்ப தெளிவா தெரிகிறார்.

From: raghavendran on 30th July 2011 08:38 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

...as much as i despise him for his antics, he has provided the best moments so far in this series for me as a viewer, apart from RD's batting. Couple of overs to RD in the second innings at Lord's and another couple last evening were test cricket at its best in recent times! It had to be The Wall at the other end to have survived those spells...no more IPLs SLPLs please, we want more of this!!!

+1..amazing it was...Dravid acknowledged him with a smile...he was unplayable..going through Dravid's defense is not easy..and from our side...Dravid still survived..IPL

.....

but we have to bat last on this wicket which is misbehaving in the first day..hope we get a lead in the first innings...

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:29 AM [Full View]

I thonk that batting in 4th innings bit will haunt us in this match. It is confirmed now
nERRaiya Dhoni - lose toss, win match
IndRaiya Dhoni - win toss, lose match

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 10:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cinema

According to Buddha; Desire is the root cause of all miseries.

I dnt follow his philosophies

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

Praveen Kumar masterful in solving the mystery of Nottingham swing

Vic Marks at Trent Bridge
guardian.co.uk, Friday 29 July 2011 20.00 BST
Article history

Trent Bridge's reputation as a haven for swing bowlers was enhanced as Sreesanth, Praveen Kumar and Ishant Sharma merrily went about their business

India's Praveen Kumar, who took 3-45 off 22 overs, appeals unsuccessfully for lbw against England's Kevin Pietersen. Photograph: Jon Super/AP

Nottingham's reputation as a haven for swing bowlers was enhanced as Sreesanth, Praveen Kumar and Ishant Sharma merrily went about their business. Actually they were not that merry all of the time.

Kumar was distinctly grumpy when the umpire Marais Erasmus declined an lbw appeal against Kevin Pietersen. He was very keen to engage Erasmus in conversation at the end of that over and Harbhajan Singh acted as a peacemaker. It would have been a long and fruitless conversation since Kumar does not speak English fluently. However, alongside Sreesanth and Sharma, wisely shorn of the majority of his hair, Kumar made the ball talk.

This is what we have come to expect here. The ball keeps swinging; the pitch is hard and has sufficient carry for the edges to reach a busy slip cordon. It makes for beguiling cricket, in which a plucky half-century, such as the one thrashed by Stuart Broad, can change the course of the match.

And whom should we thank for that? Well, Huw Evans, of course. Evans of Maber Architects in Nottingham has been the guiding light in the rebuilding of Trent Bridge, making it the most enchanting Test ground in this country outside of St John's Wood. According to the locals it is the construction of the new stands that has made Trent Bridge an even more fecund hunting ground for swing bowlers.

The erection of the Radcliffe Road Stand in 1998 opposite the old pavilion changed the properties of a ground that used to be the Test batsman's friend. Denis Compton scored five Test centuries here; rather more recently so did Mike Atherton, four of which were struck before the Radcliffe Road Stand was completed – and the fifth was against Zimbabwe in 2000. None of the specialist batsmen could get anywhere near 50 this time.

Since the opening of the Radcliffe Road Stand batsmen have turned up at Trent Bridge with the same trepidation as county players in the 80s, when Clive Rice, Richard Hadlee and Eddie Hemmings were in their pomp, but then the pitches were usually emerald green in the middle and dusty-dry at the ends.

If anything the addition of the Fox Stand and the evocatively named New Stand has increased the likelihood of swing. Precisely why remains a mystery to this column. It may be that the stands act as a windbreak, which produces the still conditions that encourages swing.

A lush outfield helps as well since this allows the ball to keep its shine; so does the sort of cloudy sky that hung over Nottingham on Tursday. And it may be that Mr Evans is a cunning scientist – and a frustrated swing bowler.

Zaheer Khan would have enjoyed these conditions, but a rejigged pace attack offered a reminder that it was not an aberration to find India ranked as No1. They possess rather more resilience than they have been accorded since the heavy defeat at Lord's.

Until Broad and Graeme Swann opted for the long handle after tea the India bowlers displayed discipline and patience, qualities that have seldom been associated with Sreesanth. The last time he played at Trent Bridge in 2007 he completed a dodgy treble during a feisty match. He beamed Kevin Pietersen, he ran through the crease and bounced Paul Collingwood and he shoulder-barged Michael Vaughan. As a consequence he ended up out of pocket.

But this time Sreesanth was much more restrained – although he did appear to celebrate a caught and bowled "catch" by hurling the ball to the heavens even though it was evident to the 14 other men on the field that the ball had not carried.

Apart from two attempted bouncers at Pietersen, Sreesanth had the good sense to bowl full at off stump and there was enough away swing for all the England batsmen to be troubled. The man with a new sensible haircut bowled very sensibly.

Kumar continued to delight. He must be the slowest opening bowler in Test cricket. He pottered in and delivered the ball at around 76mph; if he bent his back he occasionally broke 80mph. Here was the sort of bowler that Duncan Fletcher, who has always believed speed to be critical at the highest level, was wont to disdain. Ryan Sidebottom, a good 5mph faster, was not quick enough for Fletcher.

Yet Kumar, the wiliest of 24-year-olds, was never mastered, as the ball swung both ways from his subtle wrists. Strauss, whose footwork is conditioned to blunt bowlers of much greater pace, was leaden-footed on the drive. Eoin Morgan appears to be haunted by him. As at Lord's he was dispatched for a duck by Kumar and yet again seemed none too sure how he had been dismissed.

Sharma barely swung a ball. That is not his forte. But now that he could see where he was going – he has had a severe haircut that keeps his mane out of his eyes – he barely wasted a ball, in stark contrast to the first innings at Lord's. Within 69 overs England were dismissed.

But there is no knowing yet whether that is a good score at Trent Bridge

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 11:51 AM [Full View]

Praveen bowled better after his altercation with Erasmus...even breached his 80mph speed barrier

From: ajaybaskar on 30th July 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

Sunil Gavaskarku yaen indha kolaveri? A Mukund is just 4 tests old and already has been bashed for not playing with soft hands.

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 12:04 PM [Full View]

Senile ippadi ellaam sollalEnaadhaan avarukku edhO kOLArunu artham, its quite natural for him

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 12:11 PM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB6T1JuOo9A&feature=feedu

Thanks to robelinda2 from youtube we have footage of the first ever test India played which is incidentally against England in 1932.

From: KV on 30th July 2011 01:31 PM [Full View]

Adhiradi yaaga vilayaadi kondirundha Broad-ai veezhthi, aniyill thann nirandharamaana idatthin mukyathuvatthai niroobithu vittaar bhajanaikaarar.
Ketra mudiyuma... 'your husband also went to the concert aa?' nu ketra mudiyuma'ngren?

From: Sourav on 30th July 2011 01:31 PM [Full View]

Praveen Kumar, the India seamer, has been fined 20% of his match fee for arguing with umpire Marais Erasmus over an unsuccessful lbw appeal on the first day at Trent Bridge. Praveen pleaded guilty to the charge of a Level 1 breach of the ICC Code of Conduct.

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 01:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Sunil Gavaskarku yaen indha kolaveri? A Mukund is just 4 tests old and already has been bashed for not playing with soft hands.

i find it ridiculous that Mukund with that technique is the first choice opener for the country.........vera yaarume illaya?? technical vishayam ellam Gavaskar is the king, i dont think anybody knows technique and grammar of batting better than sunny (theoritically ofcourse)

From: sankara1970 on 30th July 2011 01:33 PM [Full View]

this team looks more balanced at current scenario-however, when zaheer and gautam become fit, MSD may scratch his head.
bowlers have given top order batsmen, a good chance to score commendable total and huge lead.
however, only by third day, we will know
If England manage to draw this test, it is as good as a victory for them.

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 01:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i find it ridiculous that Mukund with that technique is the first choice opener for the country.........vera yaarume illaya?? technical vishayam ellam Gavaskar is the king, i dont think anybody knows technique and grammar of batting better than sunny (theoritically ofcourse)

exactly. the way he's getting out right from his first test series, it's just going on...he himself/noone else seem to be trying to correct it!

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 01:40 PM [Full View]

"Silence is the speech of the spiritual seeker. I am spiritual now." Sreesanth after being well behaved on the first day of the Trent Bridge Test

From: KV on 30th July 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

Piravi kumaran deserves all the plaudits coming his way. His control over line and length and ability to swing the ball either way is very commendable.
But enakku ivaroda action mela lighta sandheham... appappo chuck pannraaro nu thonudhu. If you've observed guys trying to bowl pace bowling in local grounds, its quite easy to spot many of 'em with a similar action, where the last part of the action, when the forearm and wrist come into play, is more of a chuck disguised as clean bowling. But then, I'm not too sure and haven't come across anyone with this opinion so far... maybe it's just me.

From: sankara1970 on 30th July 2011 01:43 PM [Full View]

Praveen's disgust on umpire turning down his LBW claim against Pete was meaningful-as replays showed it would have hit stumps.

From: ajaybaskar on 30th July 2011 01:44 PM [Full View]

Maddy,

Technical aspects ellam edhukku? Runs adikkuraana illaiya? With loads of first class runs behind him, he seized the opportunity that came his way. S Ramesh, with his limited footwork, batted well against the much feared Pak attack once, right? Above all, India's most successful captain is technically handicapped.

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 01:45 PM [Full View]

KV, there's a click of the wrist when PK bowls that i can see, that's how he gets the swing in the air from...i don't think he's chucking it

From: ajaybaskar on 30th July 2011 01:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Piravi kumaran deserves all the plaudits coming his way. His control over line and length and ability to swing the ball either way is very commendable.
But enakku ivaroda action mela lighta sandheham... appappo chuck pannraaro nu thonudhu. If you've observed guys trying to bowl pace bowling in local grounds, its quite easy to spot many of 'em with a similar action, where the last part of the action, when the forearm and wrist come into play, is more of a chuck disguised as clean bowling. But then, I'm not too sure and haven't come across anyone with this opinion so far... maybe it's just me.

Andha 100kmphku chucking veraya?

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 01:49 PM [Full View]

AB, how much did ramesh survive in test cricket? MSD, for all his achievements, is not as effective in tests as he is in other formats. the only exception is sehwag, but that's it, he is an exception! mukund has a glaring technical flaw which the opponents r exploiting to the full, if SG points out correction in it, what's wrong with it?!

From: ajaybaskar on 30th July 2011 02:03 PM [Full View]

Why go on air if he wants to correct Mukund? He can straightaway go to the dressing room and do it,right?

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 02:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Why go on air if he wants to correct Mukund? He can straightaway go to the dressing room and do it,right?

air-la karuthu solrathu thaane avaroda jaab...vidunga paavam

. ethuvum kedakkale na 'if u r a right hander, u shud hold ur bat in the left hand while taking a run and vice versa if u r a left hander. this is basics, u r told of this from the time of ur school cricket' ippdi solli thittuvaar, for the 2000th time...athukku seri, payyanoda technical problemkku oru solution sonnadhaa nenachukkonga

.

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 02:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Maddy,

Technical aspects ellam edhukku? Runs adikkuraana illaiya? With loads of first class runs behind him, he seized the opportunity that came his way. S Ramesh, with his limited footwork, batted well against the much feared Pak attack once, right? Above all, India's most successful captain is technically handicapped.

technical aspects irundha thaan long term standing irukkum illaina ramesh, devang gandhi madhiri poiduvaanga.......ive seen Gavaskar saying such criticism for maharashtrian batsmen too.....also, such intricate aspects, only ppl. like gavaskar and Akram can say and we can also learn, atleast in theory

From: KV on 30th July 2011 02:31 PM [Full View]

Jinju, yup, with you on praveen's wrist click. Just that a small nerudal it gives me at times, that's all.
AB, pace-aa mukkiyam? Paya sematthaya swing panraan illa, adhu varaikkum nalladhu.

Hmmm, SG did seem a bit too harsh on air speaking about Mukund's dismissal, that too comparing his technique with that of two veterans. Ravi, actually chipped in immediately telling Mukund was just 4 tests old and that it isn't fair comparing him with Rahul and Laxman. It wasn't SG's criticism, but rather his tone which was uncalled for... rombave dhumm kattitaaru.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 02:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Piravi kumaran deserves all the plaudits coming his way. His control over line and length and ability to swing the ball either way is very commendable.
But enakku ivaroda action mela lighta sandheham... appappo chuck pannraaro nu thonudhu. If you've observed guys trying to bowl pace bowling in local grounds, its quite easy to spot many of 'em with a similar action, where the last part of the action, when the forearm and wrist come into play, is more of a chuck disguised as clean bowling. But then, I'm not too sure and haven't come across anyone with this opinion so far... maybe it's just me.

He doesn't pelt the ball..the swing is due to his wrist lock which helps him to swing both ways without any change in his bowling action..needs to work on his runnup though to gain some speed..will be cannon fodder when the pitch is slow/low..the edges won't carry and only mode of dismissal will be lbw which the batsman can negate by standing a foot in front of the crease.
OZ tour will be huge test for his ability.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 02:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by jinju

AB, how much did ramesh survive in test cricket? MSD, for all his achievements, is not as effective in tests as he is in other formats. the only exception is sehwag, but that's it, he is an exception! mukund has a glaring technical flaw which the opponents r exploiting to the full, if SG points out correction in it, what's wrong with it?!

Ramesh made his debut in 90s against Pak which had an attack of Wasim,Waqar,Sohaib,Saqlain..
played some useful knocks inspite of having a dodgy technique. Mukund has age on his side and playing overseas early should keep in good stead unlike Murali Vijay who feasted on dead tracks and came up cropper overseas.

From: jinju on 30th July 2011 02:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Ramesh made his debut in 90s against Pak which had an attack of Wasim,Waqar,Sohaib,Saqlain..
played some useful knocks inspite of having a dodgy technique. Mukund has age on his side and playing overseas early should keep in good stead unlike Murali Vijay who feasted on dead tracks and came up cropper overseas.

ramesh was good until he lasted, and that's it! me too hope that mukund corrects his mistakes and become a better player. SG n GB gets a bit hyper on technique at times, take it with a pinch of uppu, dat's all i meant to say

.

From: raghavendran on 30th July 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Sunil Gavaskarku yaen indha kolaveri? A Mukund is just 4 tests old and already has been bashed for not playing with soft hands.

obviously....when he is playing in the highest level he should be sound technically and that too playing with soft handslam L.K.G.......for me Mukund is S.Ramesh in disguise..vera edhuvum illa....

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

any links to watch it online guys?

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

VVS

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 04:44 PM [Full View]

Lachchu

Delight!

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 04:54 PM [Full View]

It is perhaps just a coincidence that our best openers - GG and VS - are untested against the moving ball in England for 9+ years now.

TN boysku Englandla chance kuduthuttu sOliya mudichudurAnga - whether they succeed like DK or fail like Abhinav. But then that's Cricket now - the ability to cash in flat tracks is more important than succeeding in England which happens just once in 4 years. Andha tourku injure AyittA namma lucku. Illainaalum only one series failure.
TN batsmen problem is inability to cash in on flat tracks. Even the FT bully Vijay is good enough only for 30s and 40s even in flat tracks.

Meanwhile, thambi Anirudha top scoring Indian in Emerging Players tournament

Naai sekar: ennoda nest targettu aniruddha!

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

http://www.cricvid.com/

Originally Posted by hamid

any links to watch it online guys?

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 06:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

http://www.cricvid.com/

thanks feddy.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 06:13 PM [Full View]

shite .........

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 06:14 PM [Full View]

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 06:15 PM [Full View]

Enna avasaram?

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

Raina, escape, great escape

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

andha dog kittayae etthanai murai out aagaradhu... damn it............

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

yaaraachum Dravid kooda ninnu tholainga plssssssssssssssssssssssssss

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

லட்சுமணா , திராவிட் - என்னே ஒரு அர்ப்பணிப்பு!

அடித்தளம் சரியாக அமைய ஒத்துழைத்ததற்கு!

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 06:46 PM [Full View]

எழுதி முடிக்கல ! அதுக்குள்ளே அஸ்திவாரத்தை ஆட்டம் காண வச்சிட்டாங்களா!

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

Stuart Christopher James Broad - man of the series.
Kalyasi, ippovachum othukunga.
England on top

World #1 teamku avLO dhAn dum, dil ellAm.

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Stuart Christopher James Broad - man of the series.
Kalyasi, ippovachum othukunga.
England on top

World #1 teamku avLO dhAn dum, dil ellAm.

Sellathu Sellathu....

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

Yuvarasu averages 18 outside subcontinent.

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

The way Yuvi had survived thus far with missed catch and all tells me that he could be decisive, all is forgotten da. Adichu thola..

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

3 fours in swann over.

From: villan007 on 30th July 2011 07:35 PM [Full View]

enna achu Espnstar commentary ku? scoreboard & commentary are switched to sky feed now?

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

Who is the small boy fielding in midoff??

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:38 PM [Full View]

http://www.crictv.net/

Fox sports 3 live feed here hamid.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

any update on Trott injury?

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 07:41 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Who is the small boy fielding in midoff??

Sub for annapparavaiyAr when he was out injured, some local boy from Nottinghamshire

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

Ayyo sanju manju and nasser in commie.. nasser aavadhu paravala.

From: villan007 on 30th July 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

Sanjeraker's commentary

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 07:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

any update on Trott injury?

This evening they are taking him to the hospital for a scan and xray...

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 07:46 PM [Full View]

I muted my TV

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 07:47 PM [Full View]

Stan star cricket commentary team entha streaming link la varum? extracover.net 4 channel layum fox team thaan...

commentary ellam nalla thaan irukku konja nerathukku apparom bore adikuthu...

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 07:48 PM [Full View]

cricvid.com la alan wilkins ravi sashtri, ganguly and senile .

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

Stan star cricket commentary team entha streaming link la varum? extracover.net 4 channel layum fox team thaan...

commentary ellam nalla thaan irukku konja nerathukku apparom bore adikuthu...

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

The way Yuvi had survived thus far with missed catch and all tells me that he could be decisive, all is forgotten da. Adichu thola..

adhuvum by his close friend KP

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

cricvid.com la alan wilkins ravi sashtri, ganguly and senile .

Thanks stan...

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

ippo kunjurekar um hussain um commentary thaane....

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

To say Mukund's technique is as limited as S.Ramesh(not a knock on the guy, he had a great career for his two and half strokes) is a joke. People need to wait before they write off a young kid's career just like that.

It's good to offer insight but not when it takes a ltd sample size and also when there's enough evidence of a rough diamond. Obviously needs more finishing and polish on top. It will come with time!

And this is not exactly a totally unorthodox scenario like Dhoni to tear the hair out.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

200 up..never thot India would reach here after Sachin got out.

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

ippo kunjurekar um hussain um commentary thaane....

bad phlow!

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 08:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

To say Mukund's technique is as limited as S.Ramesh(not a knock on the guy, he had a great career for his two and half strokes) is a joke. People need to wait before they write off a young kid's career just like that.

It's good to offer insight but not when it takes a ltd sample size and also when there's enough evidence of a rough diamond. Obviously needs more finishing and polish on top. It will come with time!

And this is not exactly a totally unorthodox scenario like Dhoni to tear the hair out.

thats why making the debut early is advantageous..Gambhir would always get out playing across during his initial days..he overcame that issue..same way Mukund can work on his game.

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

Sunny is such a rubbish commentator, agenda ridden, utterly nonsensical. The way he defended Kohli while bashing Vijay despite both being equally useless in WI test series is enough evidence on the matter.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 08:09 PM [Full View]

yuvarasa just missu

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:37 PM [Full View]

Shane warne / michael holding commie on fox sports.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:37 PM [Full View]

:yeehaaa:

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:38 PM [Full View]

Lead!...............

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 08:40 PM [Full View]

Kohli is future India captain. IppO avasarapattu criticise paNNittA, pinnaadi as a journalist varuthapadanum. Senile. Has foresight

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:41 PM [Full View]

Kohli after Dhoni? Yuck!

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 08:41 PM [Full View]

Lead eduthukkunga EzhaigaLA. Considering England will pattaiya keLappufy in their 2nd inns, even a 200 run lead is useless for you, which anyway you Ezhais cannot take

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

yuvi

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

Swann is being belted on this flatster.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

Weed will be happy!

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Kohli is future India captain. IppO avasarapattu criticise paNNittA, pinnaadi as a journalist varuthapadanum. Senile. Has foresight

i remember he was flirting with kohli once when he was in the field with a mike and earplug and was chatting with the commie guys... ipl i guess...
defly had seen something deep in his.. eyes...

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

2 more overs for the new ball

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

Yuvraj! Mann Mohini Morey

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

Feddy, Yuvraj paththi sonnEnla!

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

Yes, he had his life, but was fairly comfy against "Best Spinner in the world"

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 08:48 PM [Full View]

Dravid

Yuvi

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Ehhh?/.......

Oh yeah. Even i included him in my squad but its a surprise that he used it.

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Feddy, Yuvraj paththi sonnEnla!

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

RD

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

Dravid

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

Great Wall of India!

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

4th(??) 100 of the summerr!!!!. Dravid back 2 form... Pwnting

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

Dravid....ur the man

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Yuvi had many lives but this is invaluable runs & important partnership as the tail plus Dhoni would be useless considering the form they are in.

From: villan007 on 30th July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Dravid

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Michael holding

. Pronounces Rahul as Raul as the spanish footballer.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Huge competition between swann and bajji here for the worst bowler of the match category.....swann getting hammered her........swann's just kicked the stumps...indians getting to them....saavattum.....

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

This is what separates the good from the great - Bouncebackeability! Whatta ferfaarmance!

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Track has flattened out. New ball-la konam kastam dhan.

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Yuvi had many lives but this is invaluable runs & important partnership as the tail plus Dhoni would be useless considering the form they are in.

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

Dhoni 50+ for sure

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

79.6

Swann to Dravid, FOUR, 79.3 kph, four more! Cramp or no cramp, he's batting so, so well. Again Swann is too short, Dravid is back in a flash to crack the ball away through extra cover

79.5

Swann to Dravid, no run, 86.1 kph, watchful defence to follow that up

Dravid is batting really well, but he's also looking rather knackered and could well be starting to cramp up.

79.4

Swann to Dravid, FOUR, 87.8 kph, edged! Right between Prior's legs. Dravid was back and aiming to cut, but a little under edge took the ball away from the keeper's gloves and away for four

79.3

Swann to Dravid, 2 runs, 86.6 kph, Dravid guides a quicker one down to third man for a couple

79.2

Swann to Dravid, FOUR, 84.6 kph, a century for Rahul Dravid! Great way to get there too, getting into a great position to play a balanced paddle sweep to the fine leg boundary. Off comes the helmet, up goes the bat, and he gets a hug from Yuvraj for his troubles too

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 08:55 PM [Full View]

Brb guys. going 2 get some coffee and a gf..

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Swann kicks out the stumps petulantly #plumwatch

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

Great to see yuvraj doing well.....hopefully he continues inthe same vein

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

See maapla bhajji talents now? Swann going for 5 RPO. Bhajji only 3 RPO

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Trinity should never retire for next two years at least

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Brb guys. going 2 get some coffee and a gf..

???

....

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Track has flattened out. New ball-la konam kastam dhan.

naama run adikkumbodhu flat track madhirithan theriyum.. wicket vizhumbodhu unplayable madhiri theriyum.. there is still enough in the pitch for the bowlers

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Trinity should never retire for next two years at least

They won't! I will stop watching tests once they retire

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

This is what separates the good from the great - Bouncebackeability! Whatta ferfaarmance!

and true champions from pretenders......

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Brb guys. going 2 get some coffee and a gf..

watttttt??????

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Brb guys. going 2 get some coffee and a gf..

Coffee vaangaRa frequencykku oru pudhu Girlfriend mAththaRInga? Hmm...americalO jalsa!

From: villan007 on 30th July 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Brb guys. going 2 get some coffee and a gf..

you continue

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

They keep talking, we keep beating (of course except the first match of any series

)

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

idhellaam namma kaNNula miss aagaama maattidum! ellaarum inga orE maadhiridhaan irukkOm

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

stan nallavar nga breakfast saapida poirupaaru, aana 11:30 am aayiruchu, ippo thaan breakfast a, oru davut varuthu....

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

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Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

and true champions from pretenders......

Yes, England will bounce back in second innings(a mini fightback in this innings to restrict India, too) and quash Indian cricket dreams

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

yaaruba andha periya crane la ninnu padam pudikkaradhu! enakku paakkumbOdhE kalangudhu! meiyyaalumE sema dhill dhaan!

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

stan nallavar nga breakfast saapida poirupaaru, aana 11:30 am aayiruchu, ippo thaan breakfast a, oru davut varuthu....

bf'ku badhila gf'nu type pannitaarnu solringala?

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

Mumbai mafia stop jinxing

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Mumbai mafia stop jinxing

Senile, Harsha and Sanju Manju?

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

bf'ku badhila gf'nu type pannitaarnu solringala?

he typed it intentionally i think.

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

Dravid Cramping

Pls stay (I know its a big ask, but please!)

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

^sani,shastri

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Dravid looks tired..yuvi needs to take most of the strike

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Nice Name - sani shastri

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Broad had troubled Dravid(and India) the most.

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

bf'ku badhila gf'nu type pannitaarnu solringala?

athe thaaan.....

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

I think quick gun murugan will be dropped next test match....

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

Grant this to Yuvraj - aesthetic like a typical left hander or not, his strokes are good-looking!

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

quickgun murugan

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:14 PM [Full View]

backkk...........

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:15 PM [Full View]

Oru chinna typo ya. I am at work now.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Oru chinna typo ya. I am at work now.

ensoi

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:17 PM [Full View]

Chinna typovA? EvLO periya meaning change! Oru vELai freudian slippO?

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Well Played Yuvrass!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

looks like dravid's career has come a full circle....the last time i could see him in such form was before the last tour of england.....now 4 years hence i could see his magical touch again....england has definitely been his favourite touring countries.....got that mammoth 609 runs in 2002....

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Yuvi tried to knick that kind of line all day but really well played, important runs

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:21 PM [Full View]

Yuvraj scratchy but most imp 62 runs and swatted swan. Good work to cross the lead.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

that was a very good partnership

and that is what is required in test cricket.. hopefully dhoni puts up a reasonable partnership with RD

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Dravidkku cramps aa?. That man's the synonym for fitness.

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:24 PM [Full View]

vayasu 38 aaguthu stan

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Yeah,. Atherton was all eulogising him an hour ago on his demeanor and fitness.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Dhoni and Weed need to swap batting position.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

vayasu 38 aaguthu stan

still he is the fittest member in the team

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Dhoni,

.////

From: vanchi on 30th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

superb partnership

dravid and yuvi

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Dhoni 50+ for sure

aringnar sathya andre sonnaar

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

MSD gaali...

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

Thoni

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

dhoni

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

bledy msd

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

Garbhajan if he can produce something like Stuart little broad, it will be mighty helpful....

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

Dhoni's ban can work in India's favour.

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

but ithula enna santhosam na, still there is some assistance for fast bowlers...

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

. Sad but true. No he is needed as a captain.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Dhoni's ban can work in India's favour.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

konjam dhammu katti oru 100 runs lead eduthutta, 2nd inningsla velaikku aagum

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

Dhoni

arivae illaya :seigh:

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

aringnar sathya andre sonnaar

10 sonnaa 2 or 3 miss aavadhu jagajam!

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

ada pongappa

From: vanchi on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Ms and bhajj

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Great all rounder Harbajhan gone

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

UDRS bites us. Big inside edge to harby.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Dhoni and Weed need to swap batting position.

that wouldnt have made any difference

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Erasmus - bleddy wasteland

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

horiible horrible decision here!!!!

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Broad

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

To say Mukund's technique is as limited as S.Ramesh(not a knock on the guy, he had a great career for his two and half strokes) is a joke. People need to wait before they write off a young kid's career just like that.

It's good to offer insight but not when it takes a ltd sample size and also when there's enough evidence of a rough diamond. Obviously needs more finishing and polish on top. It will come with time!

And this is not exactly a totally unorthodox scenario like Dhoni to tear the hair out.

if u r referring my post or Gavaskar's comments, u can easily see that its a honest feedback on his technique and not hinting at writing off or anything...........infact, its a genuine concern that he shouldnt go Gandhi or Sadagoppan way....

btw just saw sunny saying some "dont push at the ball" comment for Dhoni as well and he too got out cheaply.........we need to stomach honest criticisms raising above regional or any form of favoritism etc.......

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Broad on a hatrick.

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Pk to take the hatrick with Erasmas!

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

broad takes a hatrick

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

broad hatrick first one at trentbridge....

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Erasmus - podaang "!$$%£%^£$%Y&%^*$^&*^&(

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Broad

hat trick

wat a delivery to praveen kumar

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Broad

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

barbie take a bow

From: vanchi on 30th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Time to open a new group in FB - I hate Erasmus

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Broad gets a hatrick...complete mayhem out there....it is a hattrick the guy doesnt deserve.......

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

paavam dravid... en da dei ungalukaaga embuttu kashtapattu usura koduthu oruthan vlaandukittu irukaan...

nalla vela peterson appove yuvarasoda catch a drop panaan, illati 145/8 a irunthu irupom...

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Sutham , 200 lead la irunthu ippo hundred vantha pothumnu irruku ...

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Weed - 100th test in the fourth test of this series

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Umpireae thitti use ae illa. Thats why you have the system. We have to blame BCCI. Wanting for 100% accuracy we have to cop these howlers.

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Erasmus - echa kalai

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Broad deserves this. And more. He's on a roll. He even troubled Dravid.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

well played dravid

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Collapse! ............

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Oh my god!!!! dravid's gone.....looked more like a shot of frustration.....

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Arignar Plum appOdhE sonnAr - England will show its bouncebackabilitynu

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Umpireae thitti use ae illa. Thats why you have the system. We have to blame BCCI. Wanting for 100% accuracy we have to cop these howlers.

I know, frustration of the moment!

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:39 PM [Full View]

Plum - Urgent request for your reverse jinxing!

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:39 PM [Full View]

"Cheers Dhoni for starting the collapse with you careless shot," says Pratik. And plenty others.

From: VinodKumar's on 30th July 2011 09:40 PM [Full View]

Frustration to the core ... Dravid threw his wicket away !!! Well done , RD.

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 09:40 PM [Full View]

only india possible...

dravid.... shows his frustration in the best possible way he thinks...
after taking the team to a good position, standing in one side and watching people get out in a row....
get some life guys... you should not disappoint someone like him for all his efforts there...

only india possible.

From: sathya_1979 on 30th July 2011 09:41 PM [Full View]

Dravid

Well done, outstanding!

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:41 PM [Full View]

Udrs irundhirundhaa many England outs would have been overturned and India notouts would have been given out on review. This is small price to pay - weed's wicket.

England are winning this test -

#1 ranking for India.
Now the English posters in Guardian will be breathing relief

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 09:41 PM [Full View]

India should refuse taking tea..complete brain fart yesterday and today

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

Yeah sure.

Originally Posted by Plum

Udrs irundhirundhaa many England outs would have been overturned and India notouts would have been given out on review. This is small price to pay - weed's wicket.

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 09:44 PM [Full View]

What a waste

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 09:44 PM [Full View]

shameful batting display..

Hope sree gets few runs and irritates England

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Plum - Urgent request for your reverse jinxing!

No, please no!!

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

I know, frustration of the moment!

i think these are small sacrifices we can afford to make for bigger things....

coming to Dhoni, i think a drop will do a world of good.........when yuvraj had problem of head position while playing shots and viru went through a rough patch, dropping them did a world of good....Dhoni needs to be dropped for a match or 2 in tests

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

What a waste

yaara solringa? India has done very well to reach this position and still has the advantage.. we have to bowl well in the 2nd innings also

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

MSD utterly careless shot...

ennatha solla... Thayavu seithu MSD, paathu velayadunga....

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

yeah MSD can be dropped...

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

shameful batting display..

Hope sree gets few runs and irritates England

do you still regret the decision of electing to bowling 1st ?

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

do you still regret the decision of electing to bowling 1st ?

on hindsight.. NO.. But batting last in this pitch will have a definite say on the outcome..

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

PK should play below Ishant.. atleast Ishant has a decent defense

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Good point.

Originally Posted by mgb

PK should play below Ishant.. atleast Ishant has a decent defense

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

yaara solringa? India has done very well to reach this position and still has the advantage.. we have to bowl well in the 2nd innings also

We had a very good chance of getting our lead over 100 and we messed up. 100 runs lead and we would have been in great position. More than that, I'm frustrated by the way batsmen got out.

From: raghavendran on 30th July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

the only way Dravid would have got out....what an innings...only him possible..batting at its best :bow...
India...poor batting..is this IPL..SRT,Raina,dhoni all out playing rash shots..WTH.first IPLa thuki veliye visanum...cant imagine an Indian team without the big 3...god save India.....and DRS why the hell you dont use it?...as Nasser said..we will use it for outside edges but not inside edges..

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

Stuart Little is the hero. The new Flintoff..er...Botham? I mean, the new Gary Sobers maybe.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

Ishant and Sreesanth have added some 15 valuable runs

time to move ahead and plan for the bowling

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

We had a very good chance of getting our lead over 100 and we messed up. 100 runs lead and we would have been in great position. More than that, I'm frustrated by the way batsmen got out.

exactly.. itz mindless batting. see how Dravid was batting.. he was troubled, get beaten.. still with utmost patience and concenteration he was playing and others just threw their wickets..

we just threw away our superiority in the match and now it is a cat and mouse game again..

From: vanchi on 30th July 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

288 atrocious.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Good point.

that will also allow dravid or laxman whosoever is hanging in there to score more and not to throw there wicket in frustration

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Harby's wicket could have saved the collapse. he was visibly pissed. That was a big inside edge. We could have added another 20-30 runs for the 2 wickets and the lead could have been near 100. BCCI will not come to terms with reality even when more blunders cost us the match and the ranking.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

We had a very good chance of getting our lead over 100 and we messed up. 100 runs lead and we would have been in great position. More than that, I'm frustrated by the way batsmen got out.

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Ishanth shld come ahead of MSD...

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

three wickets before stumps?

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

FOW: A Mukund - 0/1 (0.1) , V Laxman - 93/2 (35.4) , S Tendulkar - 119/3 (43.6) , S Raina - 139/4 (50.3) , Y Singh - 267/5 (85.4) , M Dhoni - 273/6 (87.3) , H Singh - 273/7 (87.4) , P Kumar - 273/8 (87.5) , R Dravid - 273/9 (88.2) , I Sharma - 288/10 (91.1)

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

Poor Dravid

. I donno for how long he will have to steady this side. Got out in utter frustration.

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 30th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

Brilliant chatterjee by India to have a go at England for a few overs today

.

From: mgb on 30th July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

We had a very good chance of getting our lead over 100 and we messed up. 100 runs lead and we would have been in great position. More than that, I'm frustrated by the way batsmen got out.

But we could have been bowled out for less than 200 also.. it happens and that is test cricket

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

whether England are current no.1 or future no.1 team, they are one of the most exciting team to watch in today's cricket and modern architects of test match revival in world stage

Anderson, Broad, Bresnan, Swann - wat a attack they possess

........esp Swann is so exciting to watch, the drift he gets, wah re wah, its hard to stop admiring him even when bowling against us

guys, also lets be happy that peterson didnt snap yuvraj when india were 150 odd and werent scuttled for below 200...........very fair day, i believe including howler from erasmus to bhajji

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

Dhoni dropA? Who will keep? Saha? Adhaiyum Dravid kaiyila kuduthuda mAttIngaLE?

Dhoni will have these bad patches. Grit the teeth and bear and hope that the nightmare goes away. If it costs a crucial series, so be it. No shame losing to England in this match - they have shown domination, attrition and now bounce backability.
Watch Cook and Strauss build on the confidence and grind out India now.
In case plan A fails, there's always Broad. What a formidable side this England is

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

well trott not fit to bat....hope we use this as an advantage......

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Can't count on madsanth/weed to get wickets..come on shant/pk need a one more good show

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 30th July 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Dhoni dropA? Who will keep? Saha? Adhaiyum Dravid kaiyila kuduthuda mAttIngaLE?

Tea time-la Dinshu Karthi-oda Oval 91 innings kaattinaanga #JustSaying

.

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Well played Dravid, Laxman and Yuvi.. Great Temperament!

What a spell from Broad!

for the hat-trick.

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 10:04 PM [Full View]

With UDRS, Cook wouldn't have been out and would still have been batting

(Ofcourse, he deserves that)
Point is now we deal with one Erasmus(designed to make BCCI regret not accepting hawkeye). With UDRS, third and fourth umpires from England will screw us with their interpretation of reviews. I hope UDRS comes in action and people get to see this in action - appO theriyum EnglandOda cuningness

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 10:08 PM [Full View]

Cook was unlucky in the first inns. Deserves some luck now - I am sure he'll score big in this innings.
England need to be calm - india will bat last and even 70 will be a formidable target - England will surely set a target more than 70 so they need not worry

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Dhoni dropA? Who will keep?

first it was a mysore maharaja who kept, then it was a local MLA, then it was cinema actress's boyfriend, ippa saha vechhikalaame

Ganguly did the same mistake - he never had the guts to sit out even when he was out of form and became the mokka batsman he was for last 6-7 yrs........sorry to dada fans but i was never a great fan of his struggles in his last yrs........

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:12 PM [Full View]

how can someone drop himself, even in the literal sense...?

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:13 PM [Full View]

India has never crossed 300 in any innings till now.

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 10:14 PM [Full View]

Yov maddy, last yearsA? Ippo dhAnyA middle years. Idhu mid-career slump. EllAm sari aayidum. O.Weed-ai anju varusham out of formA teamla vechuppInga. Captain Cool-ai vechukka mAttIngaLO?
(Don't be naughty about "keep" now!)

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:15 PM [Full View]

Cook out. ....

From: vanchi on 30th July 2011 10:16 PM [Full View]

ishant wicket

From: hamid on 30th July 2011 10:16 PM [Full View]

Bye Bye Cook

get a few more

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:16 PM [Full View]

2 more for the day.

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 10:16 PM [Full View]

I love test cricket....

From: wizzy on 30th July 2011 10:17 PM [Full View]

mukund>cook in this series

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 10:17 PM [Full View]

No worries - Strauss and Morgan, the law firm, will take care of setting a match-winning target for India by England, provided KP and Bell give Morgan a chance

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 10:18 PM [Full View]

I say we press for an innings defeat ya....

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 10:19 PM [Full View]

Maddy,

I'm really not sure if you are playing along. Dhoni's problem is his technique is susceptible in these conditions and he doesn't seem to adjust his game for that. If he plays waiting game, he can overcome this problem. Drop ellam periya vaarthai. And he has to concentrate more on his keeping too.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:19 PM [Full View]

Thilak, nasser supports arsenal it seems.

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

Bell looking solid. Bell is the new Laxman. Change of Guard in this series.
Bit like Kolkata 2001. Australia looking coasting then a hat-trick and awesome second innings by India and then Aus collapse.
Read Eng for India and India for Aus.
The lead was 274 then but only 52 now so even less difficult for England
Also Laxman came in at #3 after scoring well in first inns. Samw way Bell has come in at #3

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:22 PM [Full View]

bring sree for praveen.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:23 PM [Full View]

Warne lambasting dhoni on his keeping/form.

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 10:24 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

And he has to concentrate more on his keeping too.

4 byes now

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

Ippo thaane kalyanam aachu, athaan konjam concentration kammi aayirukku... poga poga sari aayirum...

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 10:28 PM [Full View]

Get a hatrick sreesanth.

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:31 PM [Full View]

looks like trott is not gonna bat...

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 10:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Maddy,

I'm really not sure if you are playing along. Dhoni's problem is his technique is susceptible in these conditions and he doesn't seem to adjust his game for that. If he plays waiting game, he can overcome this problem. Drop ellam periya vaarthai. And he has to concentrate more on his keeping too.

honestly, i agree with all of ur words here except for keeping part........he needs to go back to ranji trophy matches, score lots of runs, get his technique & confidence right and then come back to tests......it had done wonders to yuvraj, sehwag - and also at a personal level, i would love to see him cooling his heels off with his family, he has too many grey hairs for his age

............also, oru kroora sandhosam dhaan to see how India manage themselves without Dhoni

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:32 PM [Full View]

one in this over.

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 10:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

one in this over.

u mean you are expecting a wicket in this over or 1 run conceded in last over?

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

where is ishanth

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

u mean you are expecting a wicket in this over or 1 run conceded in last over?

i was thinking that ishi is gonna bowl and was askin for a wicket,.

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

also at a personal level, i would love to see him cooling his heels off with his family, he has too many grey hairs for his age

Agree about this. He badly needs rest.

Originally Posted by MADDY

also, oru kroora sandhosam dhaan to see how India manage themselves without Dhoni

Too much

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 10:42 PM [Full View]

+1 for resting Dhoni from Test matches. Continuing the poor form will impact his leadership qualities among team members. High time for him to re-evaluate.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

its confirmed that trott wont bat in the 2nd innings. Well england are actually two down......

From: SoftSword on 30th July 2011 10:51 PM [Full View]

bad last over by ishi...
this is where we lose the advantage, by not pushing it ahead...
guess our guys get contented so quickly...

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 10:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

+1 for resting Dhoni from Test matches. Continuing the poor form will impact his leadership qualities among team members. High time for him to re-evaluate.

kekkradhukku nalla irukku but practically wont happen because Dhoni has to put his career on line.......imagine if he fails in domestic season too and someone like Dinesh karthik, by mistake, keeps well and bats well too, it will be tata bye-bye for his career......hmmm, he needs to work out something within available framework and improve but im certainly unhappy seeing the way he is batting.......

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

i think England would score minimum 300 and set us a target of 230+........no.1 ranking, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBoRnuobJMpls dont go, my love

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 10:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

.imagine if he fails in domestic season too and someone like Dinesh karthik, by mistake, keeps well and bats well too, it will be tata bye-bye for his career......

Please tell me you are joking

From: venkkiram on 30th July 2011 10:59 PM [Full View]

A solid innings from Strauss is due. Hope he shines on tom'row.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 11:03 PM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wBFI23ohA&feature=feedu

Ganguly's commie lollu.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 11:05 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar should have batted more. The onus will be more on him if we lose this match.

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 11:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Please tell me you are joking

i meant his test career, ofcourse ODI and T20 annan-a adichikka aal illa

From: littlemaster1982 on 30th July 2011 11:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i meant his test career, ofcourse ODI and T20 annan-a adichikka aal illa

He is not going anywhere

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 30th July 2011 11:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Tendulkar should have batted more. The onus will be more on him if we lose this match.

i think a big score is just around the corner.....may be in the 2nd innings....doesn't look like a dip in form.....just that he is getting out

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 11:15 PM [Full View]

Yes AF. If he fails in this series, then pretty much bye bye time for him

Change that if to when

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 11:16 PM [Full View]

Great avatar maddy. One of the few reasons why indian cricket has so much fans. Two of the greatest men to play for India.

From: Plum on 30th July 2011 11:16 PM [Full View]

Strauss is due a good knock tomorrow.
Morgan doesmt fail 4 times in a row
KP is in ominous form
Prior also has had his odd failure already.
Then there are Bresnan, Swann, Bell - the B-positive gang
Andersen there if required to be solid
And then there is Broad.
I have a suspicion Trott will also bat

The surprise is how did we get them out for 221. Surely not again

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

He is not going anywhere

just like his feet while facing moving deliveries

From: MADDY on 30th July 2011 11:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Great avatar maddy. One of the few reasons why indian cricket has so much fans. Two of the greatest men to play for India.

yea, dont even want to imagine how it will be "after" them

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 11:30 PM [Full View]

Wonder how awesome it'd be when Dravid becomes a pundit, the most eloquent cricketer ever. Class act.

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 11:32 PM [Full View]

Ravi rips apart ECB and England. The only honorable thing he had done.

From: ajithfederer on 30th July 2011 11:32 PM [Full View]

What for??...

From: Kalyasi on 30th July 2011 11:32 PM [Full View]

Ganguly: Do or die. Sehwag: Do before you die. Dravid: Do until they die. Tendulkar: Do that will never die. Laxman: Do when everyone else die. Yuvraj: Do, die, be reborn. Do, die, be reborn. MSD: Die and let others die

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 11:37 PM [Full View]

Re.Nass is Afc fan, Didnt know that Feddy. Dark spot for Afc. OTOH Mark Ramprakash used to be my fav. Afc supporting cricketer. better pundit than Nass too!

From: kid-glove on 30th July 2011 11:39 PM [Full View]

For everything.

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 12:03 AM [Full View]

Good one. MSD dhan seria puriala.

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

Ganguly: Do or die. Sehwag: Do before you die. Dravid: Do until they die. Tendulkar: Do that will never die. Laxman: Do when everyone else die. Yuvraj: Do, die, be reborn. Do, die, be reborn. MSD: Die and let others die

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 02:58 AM [Full View]

On Being Reflexively Anti-BCCI And Anti-anti-BCCI About DRS

I always cricket on mute to shut out the commentary. Occasionally, I listen to TestMatchSofa, but even that gets tedious after a while. But once in a while I listen to the post match shows. Today I started listening because I saw Rahul Dravid being interviewed at the end of the days play and wanted to hear him talk. These are some of the most sincere interviews one gets to see on television. This was a great interview. Rahul Dravid couldn't remember his century at Headingley in 2002 for a while. He came across as a genuinely happily weary man. What happened after that is what this post is about.

The DRS debate has been held hostage by the reflexively anti-BCCI attitudes taken by most of the English Press. Apparently, Nasser Hussein referred to the inability of Harbhajan Singh to refer his LBW decision (there was an inside edge) as a "disgrace". Ravi Shastri took issue with that during his post match conversation with Harsha Bhogle and Sourav Ganguly. He may be guilty of overusing cliches (please forgive the tautology) on commentary, but this was a palpable display of fury. "What right does he have to call it a 'disgrace'?" asked Shastri, and went on to paint the English attitude to this DRS issue as a furiously anti-BCCI one. He then went on to accuse England of being "jealous" of everything BCCI does, and everything the Indian Cricket team has achieved. He ended his rant, curiously enough by saying "Lets face it, England have never been the World No 1 Test team".

In about 30 seconds, Ravi Shastri went from taking clear aim at an English attitude that he apparently hates, to throwing that very same attitude back at England with plenty of interest and a little bit of khadoosgiri thrown in. While this sounds great in the moment, it serves no actual purpose.

I have no idea why Hussein thinks its a "disgrace" that DRS is not used for LBWs, and why he thinks this is BCCI's fault. But I am intrigued by the deal struck between BCCI and ECB about DRS. Both BCCI and DRS had no trouble with hotspot. Both BCCI and ECB had no trouble with using DRS to eliminate obvious howlers (they are using it for caught decisions). So why was DRS not allowed for LBW decisions, without the use of ball tracking? How did the negotiation go?

For what it is worth, the ECB are equally to blame for DRS not being used in LBWs. It is preposterous that, having agreed to this design of DRS for this series, they can then continue to complain about it. Andy Flower and Andrew Strauss have stated on the record that they are not happy with DRS. If they don't like it, why did they agree to it? And having agreed to it, why are they now criticizing it?

Assuming there was an actual negotiation, it is reasonable to assume that the ECB's starting position would have been for LBWs to be fully within the purview of the DRS with full use of ball tracking and hotspot. BCCI must have started from the position that ball tracking should be kept out of LBW decisions. How then, did both sides arrive at a conclusion where LBWs are excluded altogether? Was it England who said that if they couldn't have ball tracking, they'd rather not use reviews for LBWs in any way? Or was it BCCI who said that there should be no hotspot?

It is extremely difficult to arrive at the conclusion that BCCI and ECB did with regard to LBW decisions in DRS, based on their respective arguments about the technology. Ravi Shastri was absolutely clear that the purpose of DRS was to eliminate howlers (and he's a member of the ICC's Cricket Committee). He also made the eminently sensible point that with all the noise at cricket grounds, the Umpire can occasionally miss inside edges, and that batsmen can actually know whether or not they've hit the ball. If Player Reviews are the way to go, then it makes sense to allow batsmen to request reviews in case where they actually some definite information to base their review on.

If howlers are the issue, then surely, the third umpire is best equipped to deal with them. The simplest solution would be to let the TV Umpire correct howlers without the players being required to ask for them to be reviewed.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves here. The most serious problem with DRS is that the agencies charged with making decisions about it seem incapable of making coherent arguments about it. The BCCI has at least been clear about its reservations, ball tracking wise. The ECB and the ICC, as proponents of technology, have not had to make a single argument to support their positions. But getting them to argue about it and present their arguments to the cricket watching public seems, how shall I put it, impossibly adult at the moment.

http://cricketingview.blogspot.com/2...ricketing+View

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 03:26 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Good one. MSD dhan seria puriala.

Avar our aana udane pada pada nu wicket ulunthuruchu illa, avar out aayita, he will expose the tail, so Dravid has to do something silly to get himself out... so athunaala thaan MSD ku Die and let others die, Harbhajan: Die....

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 09:46 AM [Full View]

MADDY avatar

...Indian cricket is what it is because of these two men..
Dhoni getting failed is just because of his technique...none of the younger breed have got that..all are t-20 material...him playing ranji trophy on Indian tracks...will not do him any anything...
and we have to get them bundled out under 250...if we are chasing anything over 220..katham katham dhan...

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 09:51 AM [Full View]

and the thing with DRS..i m with Ganguly and Hussain on this one...hot spot is only 95% accurate according to its owner..but adha nambaranga...a clear sound of Laxman's edge was not captured in hot spot..the gap between bat and ball was too much..i am not a fan of any technological intervention in cricket...but if it is used..it has to be fully used...no DRS for lbw is a joke

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 10:23 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

and the thing with DRS..i m with Ganguly and Hussain on this one...hot spot is only 95% accurate according to its owner..but adha nambaranga...a clear sound of Laxman's edge was not captured in hot spot..the gap between bat and ball was too much..i am not a fan of any technological intervention in cricket...but if it is used..it has to be fully used...no DRS for lbw is a joke

VVS was notout..snicko showed variations only after the ball went past the bat.

From: villan007 on 31st July 2011 10:55 AM [Full View]

apparently snicko cannot be used in DRS as it takes 5-10 mins to build...

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 11:03 AM [Full View]

Kartikeya Date on DRS - as usual

English whingeing has been made tolerable recently only because they have a champion team which is winning the ongoing Nottingham test despite a poor start, winning the current series against India and is going to be #1 soon.
Otherwise, they remain whingeing poms as usual

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:11 AM [Full View]

Shastri's talk can badfire badly if we lose this match.

From: mgb on 31st July 2011 11:24 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

hot spot is only 95% accurate

do you have an accuracy level for snicko ? i guess it will show sound waves even if the stiches in the batman's trousers come off

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 11:49 AM [Full View]

the middle order again sothappified for India-except Bajji's wicket poor decision by umpire-
Dravid's was class innings and lost patience when everyone got out. Yuvi gave a good support.
For Dhoni, this is beginning of end. Kazuthukku mela kathi
Even now, India looks favourites. Cook is cooked by Isshi-beauty to watch-Stuarts all wickets except Bajji's were excellent.
If Eng win or draws, it depends largely on Stuart.

From: mgb on 31st July 2011 12:04 PM [Full View]

the ball got soft after 55 overs and didnt do much.. that was one of the reasons why broad and yuvraj could play freely as they entered at that juncture.. so India should get as many wickets as possible in the prelunch session and in the 1st hour post lunch.. seamers should keep bowling until then

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 01:02 PM [Full View]

Not if. When.

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 01:26 PM [Full View]

wtf..Vaughan accusing VVS of cheating the hotspot by applying vaseline on the edges..VVS of all people and don't think we are clever enough to hatch a scheme like this

ex OZ players had much more class when their team was on top.

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 01:28 PM [Full View]

When Dravid was there

By Siddharth Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

One of my father’s friends, Venkat, once told me a story about Sunil Gavaskar’s 236 against West Indies in Madras. On the third day of the match, with West Indies all out for 313, Venkat – a huge Gavaskar fan – took off early from work to try and catch India’s innings. His workplace was quite far from Chepauk but he thought he would take a chance, trying to watch at least the last thirty minutes of play.

Gavaskar didn’t open the innings that day but hardly had Venkat left his workplace than India were 0 for 2. On his bus ride to the stadium, Venkat, with a transistor glued to his ears, felt reassured as Gavaskar calmly defied a blistering attack that included Marshall, Roberts, Holding and Winston Davies.

By the time Venkat was at the stadium, Sidhu was gone. Worse, there was a melee outside with several people turning up to watch India bat. Just as Venkat entered the stadium, Ashok Malhotra was dismissed. This left Venkat with just a few minutes to watch Gavaskar and Shivlal Yadav batting for stumps.

The crucial bit is how Venkat ended the story: “Gavaskar was there when I left the office. He was there when I was in the bus. He was there when I was trying to get into the stadium. He was there when I walked in. And he was there when the day ended. Gavaskar was always there.”

I hope Venkat watched the first two days at Trent Bridge. Rahul Dravid was there in the most dangerous phase on the first evening; he was there during the tricky phase on the second morning; he was there when Laxman blossomed; he was there when Laxman left; he was there when Tendulkar left; he was there when Yuvraj revived his Test career; he was there when Yuvraj left; and he was there when the lower order imploded in one over. Dravid was almost always there.

There was a time when 34 hundreds was Indian cricket’s holy grail and how fitting that Dravid achieved this in a game where he opened the innings and exhibited an immaculate technique and monumental patience that one associates with Gavaskar.

Dravid may be from Karnataka but he is not an archetypical Karnataka batsman: his style doesn’t so much invoke the artistry and flamboyance of predecessors like Viswanath, Budhi Kunderan, Brijesh Patel and Sudhakar Rao as much as it reminds* one of Gavaskar.

It’s also fitting that Dravid is sculpting these masterpieces in front of packed audiences in a country that cares deeply for Test cricket. It’s unlikely that we’ll see a batsman like Dravid again. It’s also unlikely that we’ll see an Indian cricketer in the future who cares so much about Test cricket, its history, its traditions, its meaning and its significance.

Dravid is not only obsessed with his craft, he’s also obsessed with the game and its institutions. He is cricket’s devotee. Never will you see Dravid walk into the field without tucking in his shirt. I don’t remember him wearing anything another his blue India cap or blue India helmet.

He once got upset in an Indian ground when pressmen were walking on the main pitch a day before the game. The field is sacred for Dravid, the pitch a temple. He is a voracious reader – so much did he enjoy Simon Barnes’ Meaning of Sport, he requested for a copy to be inscribed by the author.

If Tendulkar is the son that every mother would want, Dravid is the boy who every single girl would want to take to her mother.

Like many Dravid innings, I will soon forget most of the shots he played at Trent Bridge. Unlike an innings from Tendulkar or Laxman (“That four off Fleming”, “That six off Warne”, “That inside out on-drive off Warne”, “That pull off Lee”) I remember a Dravid innings for its struggle. I will remember Sky Sports’ package at the tea-break, when Mike Atherton analysed his technique against Anderson and Broad as they jagged the ball back. I will remember the inch-perfect leaves outside off.

But more than anything, I will remember how, like so many Dravid innings, it becalmed. It was a busy Saturday morning and I had several things to worry about from 4AM. There were phases when I was highly irritated and angry, others when I was exhausted. But just peeking at the screen or listening to the radio, taking a slice of the action and checking the score slowed down the pace. And for long stretches of time it didn’t matter whether I was watching or not. Because Dravid was always there.

Like most things Dravid, this innings is likely to be followed by a groundswell of expert and public sentiment about how under-appreciated a cricketer he is, about how he gets a short shrift compared to a few others, about how he’s often asked to open the innings, about how he’s perceived as ‘boring’. Some of this used to irk me earlier* – and I too have expressed such thoughts at various stages – but it’s stopped mattering now. His immense body of work speaks for itself. The legend is set in stone. History will take care of the rest.

From: littlemaster1982 on 31st July 2011 01:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

wtf..Vaughan accusing VVS of cheating the hotspot by applying vaseline on the edges..VVS of all people and don't think we are clever enough to hatch a scheme like this

ex OZ players had much more class when their team was on top.

Sore losers. I hate English team from the beginning and my hate has been multiplied many times in this series

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 02:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

do you have an accuracy level for snicko ? i guess it will show sound waves even if the stiches in the batman's trousers come off

i never like any technical assistance...how come hot spot is trusted so much when even the founder of it says its not 100% accurate?..snicko has also created a lot of doubts too...if they are using it they should use it fully otherwise dont use it..no point in using only for outside edges..
the English are so much in favour of DRS but it didnt help them one bit in the laxman incident..there was a definite sound...where there was a huge gap between bat and body/pads..just go by the umpires instincts..bestu

From: satissh_r on 31st July 2011 02:40 PM [Full View]

Shastri and SG tearing apart the English and ICC in Extra Innings...

From: satissh_r on 31st July 2011 02:47 PM [Full View]

Now Dada getting into the act. Hopefully this could be the trigger for us to change the series

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 03:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Shastri and SG tearing apart the English and ICC in Extra Innings...

can you elaborate as to wat they talked exactly

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 03:30 PM [Full View]

Vaseline-gate ftw..

From: jinju on 31st July 2011 03:42 PM [Full View]

a very good anecdote shared by a guy in cricinfo.

"Rob Key shared a wonderful anecdote yesterday. He was saying how when Dravid first came to play for Kent, for the first 2 weeks he refused a car that was available to him (county players usually drive to the grounds in the UK). He wanted to get to know his team well and insisted they take turns in picking him up. He also said it was clear to everyone that Dravid didn't come for the money, and would go on to become a really good player."

From: satissh_r on 31st July 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

can you elaborate as to wat they talked exactly

Shastri - * Tore apart M Vaughan for saying VVS must have used vaseline and suggested Vaughan must have done it himself to come out with that theory
* If the English have a problem with Hotspot they should blame the technology not a player

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

to No.1 Spot! All Hail Ingerland, the new No.1 in Tests!

From: satissh_r on 31st July 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

can you elaborate as to wat they talked exactly

Shastri - * Tore apart M Vaughan for saying VVS must have used vaseline and suggested Vaughan must have done it himself to come out with that theory
* If the English have a problem with Hotspot they should blame the technology not a player
* ICC should look to spend more money to get all possible technologies in every match if they want to use DRS
* English should not talk about Indians not wanting DRS because the English were the last team to try it. India tried it in SL 3 years ago.
* English and their papers only talk about themselves and don't give the opponents any credit
* Harsha should bring Indian papers to the show

SG - * VVS should sue M Vaughan for doubting his integrity
* English expect their opponents to roll over and if they don't, they cannot take it
* Broad should have been punished for his appealing in the Lord's test, if it had been an Indian he would have paid 20% match fee as a minimum fine.
* ICC are highly inconsistent when it comes to Indian and other nation players. Just because Indians play IPL and earn more they shouldn't be the ones paying the fines, English players are by no means poor (tongue in cheek)

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

apdi pOttu thaakku!

From: jinju on 31st July 2011 04:11 PM [Full View]

plum shud be happy now

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 04:13 PM [Full View]

maNikku maNi adikka vENdiya nEram vandhaaachu, oooooo oooooooooooo

From: jinju on 31st July 2011 04:14 PM [Full View]

eppdiyo strauss gone...get petersen early pasangala...

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 04:55 PM [Full View]

nasser and shastri slugging it out in the commentary box.....

"Hussain says he has earned a right to voice his opinion on cricket after 96 Tests, and that's what Star Cricket is paying him. Shastri says India too has a right to not trust the technology if they don't trust it. Hussain says he would have said the same even if it was Zimbabwe, and where does the jealousy come in. Shastri says he was referring to the British press when he spoke of the jealousy. Super stuff between the two"

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 04:56 PM [Full View]

Sky Sports - Murdoch Channel
Star Cricket - Murdoch Channell
I wouldn't be surprised if the two sets of commentators have colluded to generate more eye balls and ear lobes for their pay master - esp since Sunny and Ravi's minds are perpetually on sale. Esp SastrigaL - I still remember how his views on Murali changed overnight when his agency took over PR contract for Murali.

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

As for the match, England have won already. Deservingly. And I am bitter precisely because they are deserving winners of this match.

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

bowling is toothless..only hope is rain.

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 05:09 PM [Full View]

This was predictable. Only a first inns lead of 120 would have given us some hope. Once Dhoni and co collapsed - including two test centuries harbhajan who was visibly fearful against pace - the match was sealed by England.

Remember when I said India will pay for Harbhajan's success against New Zealand - we are paying through our nose now. I am extremely happy - this is what happens when you accept mediocrity just because it comes with an occasional good performance and talks itself up.
Bala :highfive: - finally, the weed is thoroughly exposed

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

But, still the weed will not be dropped

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 05:19 PM [Full View]

Bell adichifying sAvu bell for India's No.1 Ranking

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

After we lose this test, and then the #1 ranking, Sathya, even weed will not be spared. Only face saver for Weed will be a 3 or 4 wickets to keep the illusion going. He will try for that...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

and our bad fate, he will succeed in that and say "maththavan sariyaa aadalainaa, naan enna seiyya mudiyum"

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 05:32 PM [Full View]

what happn to our guys-could not stop this little bel-now it's game England-a gud chance winning
this match looks bleak now.

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

Ganguly and Dravid built an India which is no pushover in foreign pitches - looks like we have lost that mental strength. Definitely, Dhoni seems to have lost his midas touch.
I guess this is Dhoni's 1987, the year Kapil's superman jatti was stripped bare in front of Indian Cricket fans, the year we realised even Kapil cannot perform super human miracles repeatedly

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 05:48 PM [Full View]

VVS Bell

SRT Pietersen - kamaan show the original SRT how to bat in this pitch

RS Trott and Steve Rodger Morgan waiting in the hut with Adam C Prior and Sir Garfield Broad there to perform last rites of Dhoni's midas touch.

And Shane (S)Wa(r)nn(e) will be hoping to parade his batting and bowling talents as well

I have not even covered Richard J Anderson and Ian Terence Bresnan

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

this session will decide which way this series is going...if India take wickets they stay in the hunt..if England come out with not losing more than 2-3 wickets..goodbye to the series and NO.1

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 06:20 PM [Full View]

mudinjuthunu nenaikiraen intha matchum ....

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 06:29 PM [Full View]

oooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 06:39 PM [Full View]

Saurav was telling yesterday, Engi players shd learn fm Dravid-
today- they learnt very fast

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

ball innum pazhasa ahaliaya-Bajji ku koduthu parka vendiyathu thane

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

these 2 players exhaust anapuram-no recognised batsmen except Stuart- so anyone giving breakthru now will be hero

From: V_S on 31st July 2011 07:09 PM [Full View]

Disappointing test series. Except the magnificient, ever dependant and consistent Dravid (

please learn from him guys, he is also batting on the same pitch, poor guy on a wrong side) and couple of others, this is a forgettable series. It seems England are playing against some chennai-28 team. Giving Hatrick in a test match, tail enders giving away for 20 odd runs, strike rates of England batsmen (playing like ODI, as if they are practising or doing a net practice) easily gives a picture how we are bowling. Every over there is atleast a four and few over in between going for more than 2 also.

Even that is fine, but our batting, team selection, batsmen commitment (priority issues) has been a bigger concern. Again not even a 300 so far. This test match had a big big advantage for us. Around 350-400 we should have got. I don't think this England team are that great, we are not playing to our potential. Very disappointing.

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 07:27 PM [Full View]

A lucky 62 for Yuci means more deserving youngsters will not get a chance, too. Disastrous series - yes weed seems like thoroughly exposed but he is an expert in doing just enough on time to remain in the team, isn't he?
Atleast, this will stop the "we are slow starters; we will come back in the second test" talk.
Gatham gatham.
Maya maya mata ellaam maya
Chaaya chaaya chaaya ellaam chaaya

From: sankara1970 on 31st July 2011 07:35 PM [Full View]

KP gone-I dont c Eng not making more than 50-so 200 to chase for India

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

Allov 350+ chase. Sachin maanam marubadi marubadi pogudhu. Ipl vENAmnu sonnome... Kekkalaye...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

Now see how Eng Press cry foul and preach about morality!

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

athaane bell odara maadri odiputtu, onnume theriyatha maadri nadikaraan...

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

ha ha ha Bell avanae tea ku bell adichitu odina what to do ...

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

looks like India have decided to stir things up..ppl booing the team

From: raajarasigan on 31st July 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

நாம இப்படி விக்கெட் எடுத்தா தான் உண்டு..

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:20 PM [Full View]

Let them Boo. rules theriyathavanlam yethuku velada varan. crease kulla nikka mudiyaatha avanala ..

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:21 PM [Full View]

the umpire didnt call for tea....it is bell's mistake completely....

From: V_S on 31st July 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

நாம இப்படி விக்கெட் எடுத்தா தான் உண்டு..

exactly!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

Repeat of Sydney 2008?

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

- edited - ....

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

the umpire didnt call for tea....it is bell's mistake completely....

But Ingerland will whine whine and whine!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:25 PM [Full View]

Dada same side goal

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Yes.

... Dhoni will be fried forever for this by England press ...

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 08:28 PM [Full View]

athaane dada aniyaayam pannareenga...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

Hub Pundits Experts (Maddy, LM, Plum, P_R, Bala, AF etc etc) - What do u think of this?

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

Enakku oNNudhaan purila. As per laws of the game - This is out. But, they also say that Bell should be declared not-out in the spirit of the game. So, is the law of cricket not in line with the spirit? enna ezhavudaa idhu

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Repeat of Sydney 2008?

Yes i am having the same feeling. ..

...again its the second match of the series......

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 08:34 PM [Full View]

Mukunda has created history..Dhoni should have withdrawn the appeal..

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:38 PM [Full View]

Wtf...................

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 08:38 PM [Full View]

MSD

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Mukunda has created history..Dhoni should have withdrawn the appeal..

He did already. ivar periya manasukku kai thatturadhaa illa namakku naamE thONdikitta kuzhiya nenachi muttikaradhaanu thereela

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

Latest update: India have recalled Bell. The decision has been overturned.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

he's withdrawn....oh dhoni!!!! enna solrathu theriyala

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:41 PM [Full View]

now ravi shastri switches sides....so much for his expert comments

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

now ravi shastri switches sides....so much for his expert comments

avara yaarunga expertnu sonnaa? Maybe we can call him a PRO or propaganda officer

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

india just leaking runs....chapter closennu nenaikerain......

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

innum enna mayu**kku aadaNum, match thOthaachunu ezhudhi kuduthuttu pOnga saamigaLA!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:48 PM [Full View]

Harsha vEra kaduppEthuraan!

Sunny is seething with rage!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Can we expect same ffing spirit from fraud from today?

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

WTH !!! enna dashku withdraw pannanum ??? Pietersen veladura team kittalam yethuku spirit paathukitu.

oorae boo pannuchu oru wicket pichai pota udanae ezhunthu ninnu kai thatturaanunga. parambarai pitchai kaaranungaratha prove pannitaanga

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Mukunda has created history..Dhoni should have withdrawn the appeal..

Can you justify why he had to withdraw the appeal ?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

its been a very poor crowd in trentbridge. ..loosu pasanga......worse than wankhede

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

cant recall a batsman for his foolishness....the ball was still in play and Bell was on for the fourth run initially..and even the throw didnt come and the over was not called..why its not in the spirit of the game?..its accepted if the ball has come back and bell had left the crease...he assumed that its a boundary when it was not declared...Dhoni--great human..but should have gone with the decision,may be fear of criticism?...he was definitely out,no question of Morals here..foolishness from Bell gives him another life...

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Match is going out of India. We are leaking so many runs and our body language doesnt seem to be dominating. Ok ithukulam pazhi theerkura kaalam onnu varum appo vachikalam.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

ippO weed moonjiya vEra paakkaNum

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Match is going out of India. We are leaking so many runs and our body language doesnt seem to be dominating. Ok ithukulam pazhi theerkura kaalam onnu varum appo vachikalam.

enna going out? already gone!

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

When Murali was out-ed by Fleming and com, when he ran to congratulate a colleague who scored a century, the umpires didn't go to the NZ dressing room to ask him to withdraw the appeal.

When Collingwood contravened the "spirit of cricket", umpires didn't plead with him.
But when England is affected, they kick up a row and plead with Dhoni.
That is ICC. That is the anglo-saxon behaviour in ICC. Yeah, BCCI domiantes ICC. Cricket is a sport that is overwhelmingly run in favour of England - in the field at any rate.

Spirit of Cricket - my a*se. Cricket is an anglo-saxon conspiracy to make themselves feel good at cunningly dominating the natives who have now come up in other fields and are dominating them.

SRT, RSD and VVs - retire soon. Let Cricket die.

Git, football nuances kaththukkaNum - let's meet

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

WTH !!! enna dashku withdraw pannanum ??? Pietersen veladura team kittalam yethuku spirit paathukitu.

oorae boo pannuchu oru wicket pichai pota udanae ezhunthu ninnu kai thatturaanunga. parambarai pitchai kaaranungaratha prove pannitaanga

kaithatiinathu kooda indian withdrawalkku illa...ian bell thirumbiyum aada poraandrathukku.....

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Satya a magical spell from someone can easily turn the game towards us aana ellorum yethuku veladuromngara maari veladuraanga ...

ippo oru six vera

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Git, football nuances kaththukkaNum - let's meet

Footy innum mOsam nga!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Satya a magical spell from someone can easily turn the game towards us aana ellorum yethuku veladuromngara maari veladuraanga ...
ippo oru six vera

aduththa match mattum Weed veLayaadinaan, total boycott!

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

I really want Cricket to die now. Let it go the hockey way.

Btw, I am sure the English papers will say that civilized Fletcher advised brownie native savage Dhoni to withdraw the appeal

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

come on india....

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Softie AnAlum ungaLukku edhaiyum thAngum idhayam

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Bbc

During tea the England coach and captain approached the Indian coach and captain and asked them to withdraw their appeal.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

come on india....

enga? aduththa flight pudichu oorukku varaNumA?

From: V_S on 31st July 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Cunning fellows! Even after 60 years also we have to listen to them. Horrible beggars!

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

don't think Strauss/Flower would have done that had any Indian batsman was caught unaware..

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

If the umpires were going to plead with Dhoni, why did they give it out? Is it right for umpires to go and plead with one captain on behalf of the spirit of cricket? Why didn't they do this in Sydney or Auckland? AppO mattum spirit of cricket pattu kunjalathula vechu thanga thottilla paduthukittirundhudha? Didn't Ponting and Fleming pee on the spirit of cricket then? Why don't the ICC umpires act when England or Australai breach the spirit of Cricket?

And we should believe BCCI dominates still?

From: hamid on 31st July 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

From Cricbuzz : The Bell incident puts my mind back to two such incidents. In 2008, during the 2008 ODI series against NZ, in the fourth ODI at the Oval, Elliott collided with Ryan Sidebottom and the stumps were broken. At that time, Collingwood refused to take back the appeal. NZ went on to win the match.

From: hamid on 31st July 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

During the Test match in 2005 at Christchurch against NZ, Sangakkara reached his century. Murali went to congratulate him and McCullum broke the bails and Murali was given out.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 09:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

don't think Strauss/Flower would have done that had any Indian batsman was caught unaware..

exactly!!!! No team would have done.....not even bangladesh.. While it was classy according to many that bell was withdrawn i would say it was rank foolish.....its costing us the game....the series as well...its even more irritating when the english commentators praise dhoni...ungallukku enna da........

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:15 PM [Full View]

Since we are world number 1, we'll be in for more trashing... So it was better for MSD to withdraw the appeal....

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 09:16 PM [Full View]

Bumble, alan wilkins and mike atherton(especially) are very supportive of india and say bell is clearly out. Athers says bell was drowsy.

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Bumble, alan wilkins and mike atherton(especially) are very supportive of india and say bell is clearly out. Athers says bell was drowsy.

Ellam ippo solluvaanga, withdraw pannala na vera maadri pesuvaanga.... thevaye illaingaren.... naalaikku ponting, chappel ellam itha pathi ezhuthuvaanga.... pona poittu poguthu ngaren....

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 09:21 PM [Full View]

appada!!!! he's gone......

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

Bumble says no real damage done by ian bell after the decision was overturned aam.... sarithaan poda..... ippadiye pesuvaainga

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 09:22 PM [Full View]

out aagitaan :bye:

From: mgb on 31st July 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

graham gooch ran out krish srikant when he went for his customary walk to the squareleg umpire after playing the ball to the slips in his debut test

From: hamid on 31st July 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

Mr. Bell..can you pelase get out now?

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 09:25 PM [Full View]

Ganguly talking abt spirit of game is making me lol...I vividly remember him appealing for a runout against Inzi when he came inbetween a throw from Raina.

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:25 PM [Full View]

bajji out of the field aam...
apdiyae injury'nu solli... avana ukkaara vechuranum...

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

lets move on guys...

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

Wiizy the appeal against Inzi was under RD's captaincy... We lost the match...

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

b(unakkelam capsla adikka mudiyadhu)ell didnt score much..but his presence ensured that Morgan smashed our bowlnig..had it been a new batsman right after tea..he wouldn have gone after us so much...he has moved from 21 to 70 now...damage already done....Dhoni trying to be in the spirit of the game hasnt read the situation properly..bell was surely off for the 4th run..wouldnt have affected the ISHPIRIT...anyways..miraculous effort from our stars Sschin,Dravid will only win it for India..if we are being optimistic that is..

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

lets move on guys...

Mr. Krishnan - Whatever happens life has to go on.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

b(unakkelam capsla adikka mudiyadhu)ell didnt score much..but his presence ensured that Morgan smashed our bowlnig..had it been a new batsman right after tea..he wouldn have gone after us so much...he has moved from 21 to 70 now...damage already done....Dhoni trying to be in the spirit of the game hasnt read the situation properly..bell was surely off for the 4th run..wouldnt have affected the ISHPIRIT...anyways..miraculous effort from our stars Sschin,Dravid will only win it for India..if we are being optimistic that is..

we are looking at chasing 350+, no chance!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

morgan's gone......

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

panlaam paandiyaa....

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Vella pongada thellavadi pasangala...

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Morgan gone !!! Come on, India !!!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Where is the spirit of cricket? Bell was initially intended to play straight and then suddenly he changed mind and it flew to slips. It shoudn't be given out as it was not intended to play to slip.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kalyasi

Vella pongada thellavadi pasangala...

any bad word? if so, PM the meaning, future la use aagum

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

sathya, ur following cricinfo...

From: vanchi on 31st July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

vvs batla vaseline thadavikinu vanthar nu solra enlgish*&*(*((( morals pathi pesa entha yogiyathiyum illa. broad support vera.

ithula (*((*( peterson bullshiting vvs. scums.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

trott........... Echakalai erasmus as usual! Impact in-line, going on to hit! pannaadai!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

erasmus has had a woeful match....just great

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

sathya, ur following cricinfo...

Trying to send in some nasty comments

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

how come trott has come...
they said that he is not gonna play...
and now he is given a life again...

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

ithu ellam plumb lbw... pongappa ponga...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by vanchi

vvs batla vaseline thadavikinu vanthar nu solra enlgish*&*(*((( morals pathi pesa entha yogiyathiyum illa. broad support vera.
ithula (*((*( peterson bullshiting vvs. scums.

+1979, paathiram arinju pichchai idu nu periyavanga sollirukkaanga! pichchaiyE apdinA, perundhanmani?

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

how come trott has come...
they said that he is not gonna play...
and now he is given a life again...

Englipish spirit, my foot

From: MADDY on 31st July 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

Dhoni took new ball when 2 new batsmen of a future no.1 team at crease - what a disgrace to "spirit" of cricket

and Maria errorsmous is forcing the point "ippanaachu DRS othhukkonga" - thoo, ivangalakku ellam spirit of after-shave lotion kooda kudukka koodadhu, Dhoni showed them spirit of cricket - seri parava illa.....19 months @ top for India coming to end, parity will be restored in world cricket

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

Hamid those are the two incidents I mentioned in my first post on this issue. Englishkaranunga vaaiyla nallA vadai suduvAnga. In the same situation, they'd have run out Bell and commented derisively on " if you are sleeping on the field, you deserve to be out". That's what they did for Cheeka, infact. AvaingaLukku vaayum pEsum..meedhiya neengaLe purinjukkonga.

And Cricketing Gods - if they exist, they should give Dhoni a century and a India win in this match. But they don't - and if the do, they are anglo saxon - so India will lose this test.
Cricketing Gods irundhirundhaa, India would have won Sydney 08

From: Dinesh84 on 31st July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

trott gaali

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

trotts gone......

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

aNNan fraud ippO entry!

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

watta bOlll

From: MADDY on 31st July 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Dinesh84

trott gaali

again, against the spirit of game, using rough patch to get uneven bounce - India is the most despirited team in the world

From: Dinesh84 on 31st July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

ippo agalam oru cuick fire 100 adipparu paarunga..

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:48 PM [Full View]

and Maria errorsmous is forcing the point "ippanaachu DRS othhukkonga" - thoo, ivangalakku ellam spirit of after-shave lotion kooda kudukka koodadhu, Dhoni

Maddy, remember I said you'll join me against England after the India-England series? Innum paadhi series kooda mudiyala. Now, vonly Feeyaar on the other side. Avar epdiyum spirit of cricket pakkam dhaan so nammala emotional fools-nu sollittu poyiduvaar. But glad to have you on my side now

From: vanchi on 31st July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

again clear lbw. erumaianamous
ippadi ellam kepmarithanam panni no1 team avanuma.

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

maddy, unga frustration'a cricinfo'la kaatinalaachum oorukku oraikkum...
inga onnum prayojanam illai.. inga not england supporters, right now.

From: raghavendran on 31st July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

trooott was reluctant to leavam..podangoyala....ippo unnoda spriteuku enna achu?..
for all this we have gone through..we must win this match...dear batsman enna panringalo theriyala..please chase this bloody english down..

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

come on sree...

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:52 PM [Full View]

Indha erroneous decision ellaam pre planned-nga. Even now, Wilkins et al are sniggering and laughing at the lbw decisions which would have been given by DRS. Bas***ds. Ninga pre-plannedA anti-India decision kuduppinga adhukku naanga DRS othukkaNumA? Dei apdiyE othukittaalum, unga vellai umpires-ai vechu DRS-layum engalukkedhiraa dhaaneda decision kuduppinga? Unga naadhaarithanam paththi engalukku theriyaadhu?

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Indha erroneous decision ellaam pre planned-nga. Even now, Wilkins et al are sniggering and laughing at the lbw decisions which would have been given by DRS. Bas***ds. Ninga pre-plannedA anti-India decision kuduppinga adhukku naanga DRS othukkaNumA? Dei apdiyE othukittaalum, unga vellai umpires-ai vechu DRS-layum engalukkedhiraa dhaaneda decision kuduppinga? Unga naadhaarithanam paththi engalukku theriyaadhu?

I told this on day-1 itself

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

unfortunately when PK in rhythym, its eraspiss umpiring.

From: Dinesh84 on 31st July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

erasmus kitta tharsamayam lbw's stock illa.. so vera kadila poi kelunga..

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

PK should change ends and bowl from the end where Rauf is umpiring

From: Dinesh84 on 31st July 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

trooott was reluctant to leavam..podangoyala....ippo unnoda spriteuku enna achu?..
for all this we have gone through..we must win this match...dear batsman enna panringalo theriyala..please chase this bloody english down..

vilayaaduna 3 inningslayum 300 thaandala.. apuram eppadi ?

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

Sunny speculating about third test team already - if Mukund gets runs, and Gambhir is fit, and Sehwag comes back etc.
Dei, oru vaai sOrutukkE vazhi illai, paayasam epdi paNNalAmnu yOsichukitturukka?

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

..................

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

errormus choking under pressure..again ICC will issue a statement that errormus got 98% of the decision right against India.

From: VinodKumar's on 31st July 2011 10:10 PM [Full View]

Now prior is taking the match completely away from us ...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:11 PM [Full View]

illaatti mattum? 250+ lead vandha appOvE match gaali!

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:11 PM [Full View]

comeon ishi... show some enthu and fire...
why ur face looks like ur gal ditched u....

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:13 PM [Full View]

none of our guys in the commie are speaking about the denied lbw decisions of PK...
adha vittutu sunny maadhiri vera edhayo patthiyae pesitu irukkaanunga...

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:13 PM [Full View]

Girl ditch senjaadhaan kOvam, veri (I mean fire to play well on cricket field, nothing else) varum!

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adha vittutu sunny maadhiri vera edhayo patthiyae pesitu irukkaanunga...

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:19 PM [Full View]

oops... sorry i missed to use CAPS for s.

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

India would need 2 innings to chase whatever England gonna set...India batting has been a major flop this series and we haven't reached 300 even once this series.

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

panlaam paandiyaa....

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:21 PM [Full View]

again

Softie, u rock!

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:25 PM [Full View]

ravistri is doing what plum is doing here...
he did it during the worldcup too...

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 10:31 PM [Full View]

salli payalugala....

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:32 PM [Full View]

there is nobody to walk to ishi and give him some words when he loses concentration....

From: Kalyasi on 31st July 2011 10:33 PM [Full View]

avanum enna thennavetta short balla podaraan... mudinja adichuko nu.. rascal...

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ravistri is doing what plum is doing here...
he did it during the worldcup too...

unfortunately, its working nowhere...

From: hamid on 31st July 2011 10:34 PM [Full View]

sigh.. varavan poravan ellam adikkiraan.. I think England has got the score now.. they can throw their bats and get as much runs extra as possible and get alln out.. no issues for them...no dialemma of declaring etc..

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

Softie, Kadaisila saastrigaLOda compare paNNittIngaLE?

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 10:40 PM [Full View]

Indha Cricketing GodsukellAm vevastjaye illaiyaa? Oruththan evlo spirittu kAtti irukkAn? Avanai ellAm reward paNdradhillayA? Alastair Cook oru vArththai sonnavuNE, Odi vandhu Lankavukku Appu vechInga? Vellaikaaranai paarthaa kadavuL kooda mayangi pORAru!

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

sani cites weeds injury for his non performance..hope it doesn't deter him from playing next match..I want weed to play all the matches and avg more than 100.

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

http://www.thecricket-tv.com/p/channel-1.html

Another good site to watch.

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar, Ganguly slam Vaughan on 'vaseline' controversy
PTI | Jul 31, 2011, 08.14PM IST

NOTTINGHAM: Former Indian captains Sunil Gavaskar and Sourav Ganguly slammed Michael Vaughan for kicking up the 'vaseline controversy' unnecessarily, terming the comments by the ex-England skipper as "ridiculous" and aimed at a psychological game against the visitors.

"It's ridiculous to suggest for someone who has played international cricket. To say so about Indian players and more so about VVS Laxman is absurd," Ganguly said in an angry reaction.

"There has been sharp reaction within the commentator's box with Sunil Gavaskar suggesting Laxman would be within his right to haul Vaughan to the court. I have a feeling this issue could linger," said Ganguly.

Vaughan had Saturday tweeted that Laxman might have used vaseline on the edge of his bat to avoid detection by the hot spot technology after a caught-behind appeal against the batsman was neither supported by the umpire nor by the Decision Review System.

England's hat-trick hero Stuart Broad later said that he even had a feel of Laxman's bat to check if there was vaseline or any liquid in it but found nothing.

Ganguly was scathing in his attack on Vaughan, saying that the former England skipper was trying to play a psychological game against the Indians which he said will no longer work on the world number one visiting side.

"It's an important series and an attempt to go after the Indian batters. We know where it is coming from and why it is coming from. If you want to win the series, you got to be fair. This sort of press works in Australia and you are trying to do the same. I hope India has the last laugh," he said.

"It's been there in the past. I had this issue while I was captain. I stood up. I still remember the Flintoff issue at the Wankhede stadium. You go to Australia and there is this word in the press that Indians don't travel well and they are difficult to work with. I hope this wakes up India and they are competitive. India should use it as a push to compete even harder," said Ganguly who is here as commentator.

Vaughan later tried to play down the controversy by suggesting that his tweets were written in jest but showed no signs of backing off, giving out sarcastic comments on the talk of taking him to court.

Responding to the talk of he being taken to court, Vaughan tweeted, "I think there has been a slight over-reaction to Vaseline gate. Taken to court? Sense of humour required for many I think."

Ganguly had his own tweet in retort: "Vaughan has got what he wanted - attention."

Ganguly said it is becoming difficult for the rest of the world to come to grips with the fact that India are world's number on Test side and they are also the world champions.

"It's an attempt to put the Indian team down. Indian cricket has gone up, they are the world's best Test side, they are the world champions, we have the IPL where players are well looked after. It doesn't go down well with everyone.

"It's easy to make claims. It would not look right, if suppose somebody said that England won the Ashes in 2005 because there was something wrong with the reverse swing England's pacemen managed," he said.

Talking about Broad's reaction at the end of the second day's play, Ganguly advised the youngster to rather concentrate on his cricket.

"Broad has just played two Tests. Before this, there was talk of him being dropped. He should not only try to earn world's respect but also the respect of fellow players," said Ganguly.

There was also an altercation between Nasser Hussain and Ravi Shastri when both were on air. While Shastri felt that Nasser had overstepped his brief by criticising India's stand on DRS, the former England captain retorted back by saying "He had every right to express his views" as that is what he has been paid for by the official broadcasters.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ntenttarget=no

From: vanchi on 31st July 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

400 runs almost today.

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 10:45 PM [Full View]

393+ runs scored in the day

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Softie, Kadaisila saastrigaLOda compare paNNittIngaLE?

that was not intentional plum... i swear.
i take back my appeal, for the spirit of the hub...
crowd, now pls standup and appreciate me.

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

that was not intentional plum... i swear.
i take back my appeal, for the spirit of the hub...
crowd, now pls standup and appreciate me.

1 crate of ur favorite drink on the way!

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:51 PM [Full View]

adi pinraanunga....
kanda KP ellaam adikkiraan... asingamaa irukku....

edhachum pannungadaa....

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 10:52 PM [Full View]

Dhoni could have slowed the game..tried a defensive fieldset..he has been utterly clueless in this match

From: sathya_1979 on 31st July 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

ok, why am I still wasting time and energy after this useless match and series! Bye to this series and thread

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:56 PM [Full View]

thookkam varrapo dhaan theridho adhu?
edhaa irundhaalum oru kai paatthiralaam poi padunga...

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 10:57 PM [Full View]

Softie

Appeal withdraw paNNinA oNyum kedaikkaadhu. Ask Dhoni.Cricketing Gods are heartless. And only favour Anglo Saxons. Ungalukellaam oru packet naattu saaraayam kooda kedaiyaadhu

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 10:57 PM [Full View]

praveen romba neramaa enna pesitu irukkaan avanta...
ivan presentation'la kooda sariya english pesinadhillayae...

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

Quoting this post again to see the scenarios.

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

England 117 and India 125 now.

Ranking scenarios:

If England wins the series
4-0 - A literal swap with England at 125 and India at 117
3-1 - Eng 123 Ind 120
3-0 - Eng 124 Ind 119
2-1 - Eng and Ind 121 each.
2-0 - Eng 123 Ind 120
1-0 - Eng and Ind 121 each.

Draws:
0-0 - Eng 118 Ind 124
1-1 - Eng 118 Ind 124
2-2 - Eng 118 Ind 124

If India wins
4-0 - Eng 112 Ind 131
3-1 - Eng 114 Ind 128
3-0 - Eng 113 Ind 129
2-1 - Eng 116 Ind 127
2-0 - Eng 114 Ind 128
1-0 - Eng 116 Ind 127

http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_z..._predictor.php

From: SoftSword on 31st July 2011 11:01 PM [Full View]

the team only wants to get back to the hotel and sleep...
adhukku 10 overs 'autoplay' kudutthirukkalaamae....

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:06 PM [Full View]

From another forum:

If the captain had no confidence in Bhajji, why did they pick him??

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FIRST INNINGS:

Only 4.4 overs out of 68.4 overs bowled (about 6% of the overs)

SECOND INNINGS:

9 out of 97 overs bowled so far (about 9%)

then Golden Question: Why did he pick him in the first place? Who is behind keeping this utterly useless bowler in the team?

Of course, he didn't do anything in those overs to justify bowling more.

Bhajji has been a main factor in India losing the first 2 matches.

From: Plum on 31st July 2011 11:08 PM [Full View]

Here's my wish now - let England become #1 and then like Hockey, their manipulation of rules in their favour kills the sport itself.
Let Test Cricket die - anyway not much interest in Cricket after the big 3 retire so not a big loss for me. Let it die and let arrogant Englishmen just have their dog to talk to about test cricket.

From: wizzy on 31st July 2011 11:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

From another forum:

If the captain had no confidence in Bhajji, why did they pick him??

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FIRST INNINGS:

Only 4.4 overs out of 68.4 overs bowled (about 6% of the overs)

SECOND INNINGS:

9 out of 97 overs bowled so far (about 9%)

then Golden Question: Why did he pick him in the first place? Who is behind keeping this utterly useless bowler in the team?

Of course, he didn't do anything in those overs to justify bowling more.

Bhajji has been a main factor in India losing the first 2 matches.

Weed should have known his time is up when he couldn't buy a wicket against kiwis at home..had he been dropped then he could have gone back and worked on his game..now he is a deadweight and it would be better for India that he plays all the matches in this series to showcase his uselessness and would help India over a long run.

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:24 PM [Full View]

http://www.skycrickethighlights.com/...3-31-july-2011

A video of the incident.

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:31 PM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02C2e0SCCg

Ravi Shastri criticizing Nasser Hussain & ECB over remarks on BCCI regarding DRS

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:38 PM [Full View]

http://www.espnstar.com/videos/item649176/

Second Test: Shastri vs Hussain

Ravi Shastri and Nasser Hussain 'voice' their opinions over the DRS and battle it out on air...

From: ajithfederer on 31st July 2011 11:57 PM [Full View]

Gavaskar, Ganguly slam Vaughan on 'vaseline' controversy
PTI | Jul 31, 2011, 08.14PM IST

NOTTINGHAM: Former Indian captains Sunil Gavaskar and Sourav Ganguly slammed Michael Vaughan for kicking up the 'vaseline controversy' unnecessarily, terming the comments by the ex-England skipper as "ridiculous" and aimed at a psychological game against the visitors.

"It's ridiculous to suggest for someone who has played international cricket. To say so about Indian players and more so about VVS Laxman is absurd," Ganguly said in an angry reaction.

"There has been sharp reaction within the commentator's box with Sunil Gavaskar suggesting Laxman would be within his right to haul Vaughan to the court. I have a feeling this issue could linger," said Ganguly.

Vaughan had Saturday tweeted that Laxman might have used vaseline on the edge of his bat to avoid detection by the hot spot technology after a caught-behind appeal against the batsman was neither supported by the umpire nor by the Decision Review System.

England's hat-trick hero Stuart Broad later said that he even had a feel of Laxman's bat to check if there was vaseline or any liquid in it but found nothing.

Ganguly was scathing in his attack on Vaughan, saying that the former England skipper was trying to play a psychological game against the Indians which he said will no longer work on the world number one visiting side.

"It's an important series and an attempt to go after the Indian batters. We know where it is coming from and why it is coming from. If you want to win the series, you got to be fair. This sort of press works in Australia and you are trying to do the same. I hope India has the last laugh," he said.

"It's been there in the past. I had this issue while I was captain. I stood up. I still remember the Flintoff issue at the Wankhede stadium. You go to Australia and there is this word in the press that Indians don't travel well and they are difficult to work with. I hope this wakes up India and they are competitive. India should use it as a push to compete even harder," said Ganguly who is here as commentator.

Vaughan later tried to play down the controversy by suggesting that his tweets were written in jest but showed no signs of backing off, giving out sarcastic comments on the talk of taking him to court.

Responding to the talk of he being taken to court, Vaughan tweeted, "I think there has been a slight over-reaction to Vaseline gate. Taken to court? Sense of humour required for many I think."

Ganguly had his own tweet in retort: "Vaughan has got what he wanted - attention."

Ganguly said it is becoming difficult for the rest of the world to come to grips with the fact that India are world's number on Test side and they are also the world champions.

"It's an attempt to put the Indian team down. Indian cricket has gone up, they are the world's best Test side, they are the world champions, we have the IPL where players are well looked after. It doesn't go down well with everyone.

"It's easy to make claims. It would not look right, if suppose somebody said that England won the Ashes in 2005 because there was something wrong with the reverse swing England's pacemen managed," he said.

Talking about Broad's reaction at the end of the second day's play, Ganguly advised the youngster to rather concentrate on his cricket.

"Broad has just played two Tests. Before this, there was talk of him being dropped. He should not only try to earn world's respect but also the respect of fellow players," said Ganguly.

There was also an altercation between Nasser Hussain and Ravi Shastri when both were on air. While Shastri felt that Nasser had overstepped his brief by criticising India's stand on DRS, the former England captain retorted back by saying "He had every right to express his views" as that is what he has been paid for by the official broadcasters.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9433486.cms

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:08 AM [Full View]

I didnt see the first 2 sessions today and I only woke up too see the Bell controversy in the laptop. Seeing the total at 320 something odd for three I was totally turned off and went away. IMO, leaving aside the bell controversy we lost the momentum when we couldn't even make 350 yesterday. A lead of 67 is just nothing and looking on paper our bowling today has been totally useless. This is why I keep saying Zaheer is the best bowler produced from India as the man has got the cunningness of a fox. He plans his bowling and makes the best use of his armory to take wickets. He doesn't take 5-fers a lot but what he does is clearly breaks partnerships and gets into the head of the batsmen. Rest of our bowlers bowl on rhythm and need helpful conditions to take wickets which at international level is less than sufficient and not hall marks of great bowlers. A clear ex; is look at how Broad turned the game yesterday for England.

Regarding batting; Dravid has been great and Laxman has been very good. If India had made some scores of 250+ in the 3 innings its because of them. Tendulkar will certainly cop some(not some, may be more for sure) criticism if he doesn't play well even in this match's 2nd Innings. We have to win the next 2 matches to gain some respect in the world level. We need opening combination to work which is possible only when Shewag/gambhir are back. Our batting stops at 5.

We can still draw the series. We have to draw the series.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:11 AM [Full View]

Bhajji do us all a favor and drop yourself.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:14 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PZWdaBh5M

Interview with ian bell about the controversial run out

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:15 AM [Full View]

Bell admits he was naive to just walk off and assume that the ball has gone off four 4.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:28 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m2d6cV4F0

Paul Collingwood's refusal to withdraw the appeal after Grant elliot collides with Ryan sidebottom in a run out situation.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:33 AM [Full View]

Michael Atherton: "India shouldn't have called him back".
Nasser Hussain: "Everyone did the right thing except Bell. He was a (dolt). He learnt an important lesson in life and thankfully for India and Dhoni, he survived the lesson.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:36 AM [Full View]

Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room.

Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off!

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:40 AM [Full View]

An old incident from 2008 involving Collingwood and Vettori and vettori's sportsmanship to colly in 2009

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...and-slump.html

From: Kalyasi on 1st August 2011 12:49 AM [Full View]

Stan, warne pesunathukku ellam video link irukka?

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 12:59 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtnPkiiiME&feature=player_embedded

Ganguly obstructing play during IPL2

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 01:02 AM [Full View]

Naah, This i am reading from another forum.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 01:16 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zgvjC9WUCs

Murali run out by NZ when he tries to congratulate Sanga.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 07:42 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AsznuSW-1Ug

This is colly's incident with NZ. Vettori calls him back.

From: raghavendran on 1st August 2011 08:36 AM [Full View]

all our indian commies saying british people are jealous that we are no.1...but we will be 2-0 now and probably lose the series..appo enna agum...these comments will backfire...guys konjam adakki vasinga..indha teama namba mudiyadhu..

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 08:39 AM [Full View]

கிழிஞ்சுது கிருஷ்ணகிரி! ஜெயிக்கிறமோ தோற்கிறமோ டிரா செய்கிறமோ அது வேற விஷயம். இரண்டாவது இன்னிங்க்ஸ் - 450 ரன்கள் இலக்கு என்பது போன்ற சவால் போல வருமா? இந்த முறை முகுந்த், திராவிட், லட்சுமன், சச்சின், ரெய்னா, யுவி, தோனி கூட்டணி என்ன பண்றாங்கன்னு பார்ப்போம்! உலக சாதனையாளர்கள் எனப் போற்றப்படும் திராவிட், லட்சுமன் , சச்சின் போன்றவர்களுக்கு இதுபோன்ற சவால்கள் வந்துகொண்டே இருப்பதற்கு அவர்கள் கொடுத்து வைத்திருக்க வேண்டும். குமார் மட்டுமே தொடர்ச்சியா ஒழுங்கா பந்து வீசுகிறார். இஷாந்த், ஸ்ரீசாந்த் இருவரும் நிறைய ரன்களை தாரை வார்க்கிறார்கள். பஜ்ஜி சொல்லவே வேணாம் - பந்து வீச்சில் ஒரு ஒழுங்கும் இல்லை. அவரின் தலைமையில் நமது சுழல் பந்து வீச்சே செல்லரித்து போய் விட்டது. எது எப்படியோ, இந்த தொடர் இந்தியாவிற்கு ஒரு தேவையான ஒன்று. சென்ற, நடந்து கொண்டிருக்கிற இரண்டு டெஸ்ட் ஆட்டங்களிலும், இங்கிலாந்தின் இரண்டாவது இன்னிங்க்ஸ் கலக்கலா இருக்கு. இந்த ஒரு அம்சத்தை வைத்தே அவர்களுக்கு முதலிடத்தை கொடுத்து கௌரவிக்கலாம்.

ஒட்டுமொத்த கூட்டணி ஆற்றல் என வரும்போது, அவர்களுக்கும் நமக்கும் இடைவெளி மிகவும் அதிகம்.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 08:56 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off!

Warnie and Aussies - Legends

Softie - Don't ask. MayaKrishnan in Mudhalvan - Manasu kEkkalappa adhaan paakka vandhEn

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:56 AM [Full View]

Too late to wish for all that-nga raghav.

Originally Posted by raghavendran

all our indian commies saying british people are jealous that we are no.1...but we will be 2-0 now and probably lose the series..appo enna agum...these comments will backfire...guys konjam adakki vasinga..indha teama namba mudiyadhu..

From: Sourav on 1st August 2011 09:12 AM [Full View]

Now 'hot-spot' inventor has accused indian batsmen ‘using’ stickers to negate Hot Spot...
http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report...t-spot_1571475
goyyakkala...ennada nenaichuttu irukkeenga...

From: Sourav on 1st August 2011 09:14 AM [Full View]

Vaughan pammufying now...

As for Vaughan, who has attracted sharp comments on Twitter about his vaseline remark, told this paper that he cannot ascertain if vaseline can save the batsmen from Hot Spot. “I’ve no idea on this. My comments were not serious,” he said.

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st August 2011 09:28 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

If the umpires were going to plead with Dhoni, why did they give it out? Is it right for umpires to go and plead with one captain on behalf of the spirit of cricket? Why didn't they do this in Sydney or Auckland?

It's normal that umpires check with fielding captain if he wants to withdraw the appeal when something like this happens. Check these two videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m2d6cV4F0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsznuSW-1Ug

According to BBC, it was Strauss and Flower who went to dressing room and asked Dhoni to reconsider. How can they do it

From: mgb on 1st August 2011 09:44 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Bhajji do us all a favor and drop yourself.

adhellaam nadakkaadhu.. nethu yedho dhoni bell'la recall pannadhu pudikkama velila varala

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 09:46 AM [Full View]

It is very much like how Britain built an empire. Create some intangible values and spirit of war, which is applicable only for opponents. If they break rules and spirit, then use their glib tongue to justify it but if opponent does, use the same shameless glib tongue - which is just a interchangeable orifice of their body with another orifice in their body - to shame him so much so that other opponents are generally forced to take decisions that ostensibly stick to this spirit but benefits England. Something which they themselves will never do - because they know it will benefit the opponent.

This is how they built their empire. They are doing the same in Cricket now. India's dominance off and on the field will soon be a thing of past. After that, forget any iota of justice for Asians in ICC. Already, Asians don't get justice despite BCCi domination. Imagine when ECB dominates!

India should realise that spirit of Cricket is to be invoked only when it benefits your team. Basically, spirit is something defined as something that favours England/Australia. We need commentators who have a glib tongue - just like the English and Aussie commentators - who can make a persuasive case for whatever benefits us at any point of time in the gamen as what benefits the game.

After sleeping over it, I still feel it is good for such a sport which is run by biased English and Aussie administrators in spirit - even though BCCI dominate financially - to die.
Die, test cricket. Die. Who needs you?
I'll find some other game to be entertained by. Heck, I'll patronise T20. And the despised ODIs too.

Indha naal diaryla kuRichu vechukonga. Test Cricketku Cancer pudicha naal. Sethu pogum test cricket. Will happen in our lifetime. And I will not be unhappy about it.

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st August 2011 09:47 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Lead eduthukkunga EzhaigaLA. Considering England will pattaiya keLappufy in their 2nd inns, even a 200 run lead is useless for you, which anyway you Ezhais cannot take

Thayavu senju unga chatterjee-yai stop pannunga. It's not working and padikkumbodhu bp yerudhu

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 09:52 AM [Full View]

Innum konja naal dhaan BCCI domination. Can we please use the remaining days to shamelessly dominate the game - ban English players for minor offences, only issue verbal warning for major offences by Asian players, install Asia-fanatic umpires and match referees, teach them to interpret all rules against Eng/Aus, irritate them to the core?

Anyway they'll do all that when they return to power. Heck, they are doing it to us even when WE are in power. Why can't we simply do this and let the Brit and Aussie press keep whining?
I wish N Srinivasan reads and understands this sentiment - I can help handpick umpires and match referees for this purpose from India and Lanka. Sunny should be match referee for all matches involving England or Australia. Ravi Shastri with a clear mandate that any decision irritating Eng/Aus carries financial reward will be another.
Come on BCCI, let's show them what happens when we indulge in nAdhArithanam like them.

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 09:53 AM [Full View]

Ada ponga LM nAn test cricketE sethu pOgattumnu solRa rangekku vandhutten. Pazhaiya postlAm quote paNNikittu

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 09:54 AM [Full View]

kanavu kaaNum vaazhkkai yaavum................. (For ur BCCI domination and Eng players ban post)

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st August 2011 10:10 AM [Full View]

I'm terribly disappointed by the way this test has turned out. We had them by their collars twice in the match and squandered the advantage both times

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

Rohit Sharma, Munaf etc - fined for showing disappointment at umpires' decision
Swann - only reprimand for kicking the stumps in frustration at his own incompetence
Former is an offence with some external provocation still fined
Latter is a offence without provocation by others - still only reprimanded
Where are the moderators who claim there is no bias in favour of anglo saxons in ICC?

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 10:20 AM [Full View]

I am possibly thinking of a 4-0 unless Zak/Shewag and gambhir come back. I imagined things could go wrong but this is worse.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I'm terribly disappointed by the way this test has turned out. We had them by their collars twice in the match and squandered the advantage both times

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 10:33 AM [Full View]

How come these English idiots speak about the spirit of cricket? Stuart Broad had the freedom to check on Laxman's bat after that claimed catch and these so called critics kept mum. Now all of a sudden, they speak about SOC.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 10:51 AM [Full View]

gOdhumai thirudan and other BCCI cronies - useless piece of sh**s!

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 11:36 AM [Full View]

This series reminds of 1999 oz tour when the Indian team got battered..replace sachin with dravid and Eng with OZ.. we are going to be whitewashed

hope the injured players don't play the rest of the series so that we can live on the hype that we could have won the series had they played... current series was a throwback to all the overseas tour we had in the 90s with batting failing to reach 300 and bowlers letting the tail to wag and Indian tail collapsing under a hint of pressure and bowlers looking completly hapless in batting friendly conditions.

Looks like the Indian team has completed a full circle and with the trinity in their last lap the fall gonna be massive and with 5 match series planned between India/England every 2 years..this series is a prelude to humiliation which we have to endure in the future.

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 11:42 AM [Full View]

Even if Sehwag and Gambhir come back - so what?
Sehwag hasnt played any Cricket in a long time, much less First class cricket. He isnt a vil viththai arjunan in English Conditions even normally. What can you expect?

Zaheer, yes, but with all the dependence on him, one wonders if even he can cope with the pressure.

But this is perhaps needed. If we keep winning with the poor planning, BCCI will not bother even in the future. Now, they'll also realise the need for planning and preparation for test series. Too bad the big 3 will be retired by the time they do something about it. This generation of Indian players are arguably(I mean: SRT, RSD, VVS, ARK, SCG, earlier Javagal and later Zah), the greatest servants ever in Indian Cricket. MSD and Subsequent generations can build on this but they havent had to sweat as much so far, and when the time came for sweating, they havent taken up the mantle, which is clear from the current tour.

The least the current generation - MSD, Harby, Raina, Yuvi etc; I dont blame Praveen, Ishant etc - could have done is to give the big 3 a warm send off with another victory in England and an indication that they'll fight tooth and nail for the #1 ranking. Instead, they have shown woefully no fight and guts and caved in meekly.

Clearly, the pre-Dhoni generation is India's greatest ever both in terms of talent and commitment. We all thought Dhoni will struggle to maintain it after the big 3 retire - even then I thought MSD will somehow build on the good work and manage to retain the ascendancy. But I didnt expect that this sort of descent will happen even before the big 3 retire.

yes, Yuvi scored 62 but his inadequacy for test cricket is woefully exposed even in this innings. And our mindset of he scored 62 so he deserves more chances is only going to screw up some deserving youngster's chances now.
Harby gave some injruy excuse to maintain his economy rate and average.

MSD - poor guy, he is overworked but it is also true that he is not prepared enough for test cricket now. It may be time for taking a break from IPL/Champions league - be bold enough; If Dhoni doesnt take this bold decision, who will? Tell NS to f-off - and working out in Ranji trophy/FC cricket/English County Cricket at the next opportunity.

Finally, IPL was nice as long as it was there. But enough's enough

idhellAm paNNinA, test cricket follow paNNalAm illaina firm goodbye to test cricket dhAn. I dont have the stomach to see years off English dominance in test cricket - I spent 15 years hoping for a knock out punch to the arrogant Aussies; I cant wait another 20 years seeing English domination on the field apart from the deceitful, cunning they employ off the field.

I say this even as I acknowledge that the English cricket team is probably the best today in terms of Cricketing skills and athletic prowess required on the cricket field. I grant that, but it is not fair. It is just not fair on the part of Cricketing Gods to arrange it thus

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 11:43 AM [Full View]

It was test no. 874 – a good 31 years ago – England were tottering at 58/5 – Gooch, Larkins, Gower, Boycott, Brearly were all back – a few runs after Bob Taylor was given out caught behind………………………. the rest is history. Cricket is a gentleman’s game – that is what they call it… Courtney Walsh of the West Indies famously refused to mankad last man Saleem Jaffar of Pakistan for backing up too far in a group match in the 1987 World Cup, but let him off with a warning. Pakistan went on to win the match while the defeat cost the West Indies a place in the semi-final. Sportsmanship lifts the spirits of the game and the fair play attracts more fans to the game upholding the dignity of the game - don’t get carried away – it has always to be one sided – never ethically fair – while the Asian teams are expected to give up everything in guise, England, Australia, Newzealand will do everything for winning – for them ‘winning is the only thing’At Trentbridge, Stuard Broad is credited with a hat-trick. He bowled extremely well but yesterday Harbhajan had a big deflection off the first ball he faced – gentle sides would not even have appealed. Broad and Prior and rest went on appeal – Marais Erasmus from South Africa without battling an eye lid gave Harbhajan out – quite unbelievable. Bhaji had no option but to walk to the pavilion. A big howler – another time Indians at the receiving end. Nasser Hussain and British press went gaga harping that Indians were not in favour of DRS.

In this year itself on 28th Feb 11 in the 11th match Group B – India Vs. England – Ian Bell enjoyed the reprieve. It was the 25th over when Yuvi struck Bell who had pitched his leg well forward for a paddle – Billy Bowden turned down the appeal. Dhoni went in for review. The TV replays showed that it was not a no ball, was in line of the stumps and would have struck the middle of the stumps. Crowd roared and Bell started trudging back. He was only 17. When everyone believed out, the third umpire after watching things on a slow motion ruled Bell not out. It was 2.5M rule i.e., that if a 'not out' decision is being reviewed and the distance from impact to the stumps is greater than 2.5m then the technology will not be believed to be certain. Bell went on to make another half century and spoil Indian’s party. You need not travel so much back. Yesterday when Laxman was not given out - English team displayed tantrums and British Press criticized that hotspot is not good in picking up faint edges. Stuard Broad reportedly went to check the bat of Laxman for traces of Vaseline. Well, Vaseline is another controversy perhaps one of the first publicized instance of doctoring the ball – the left arm pacer John Lever during the tour in 1977 used hair lotion for keeping the shine and perhaps enabling more swing. Whether his magical figures of 7 for 46 were aided by this could never be proved, but
whether he played by the spirit of the game does not require any analysis at all. Years later Mike Selvey wrote that Willis and Lever were profusely sweating and physio
Bernard Thomas used the idea which was used by Boxers for channeling sweat by smearing Vaseline on the eye brow. Whether it really does and if so, is it still being used by the English bowlers ??? At Trentbridge on the 3rd day of play (31st July 2011) it was close to tea and the ground was filled with English supporters. Bell clearly clearly was attempting to steal a run as it was not sure whether the ball had touched the ropes. Bell scampered for the final run, hesitated, nonstriker was not interested and when the throw homed in, Bell was miles away towards the bowling end. Dhoni collected the ball, whipped off the bails and there cannot be anything else than a Run Out. Bell was in no mood to accept the decision, this time blaming the Umpire and the English batsmen walked out which again is a violation of the spirits of the game. Indian team was booed.

It was the last ball of the 65th over, Ishant was bowling faster – Morgan flicked the delivery to deep square – Praveenkumar made an ungainly attempt at saving the ball – he did succeed in preventing it from touching the rope. The batsmen assumed it was four – still hesitantly Bell attempted another run – Morgan was not interested. Throw homed in, found Bell yards away – Abhinav Mukund collected the throw, off came the bails – Indians went on appeal and the Umpires gave Bell out. There were replays and the board flashed Bell out. The famous English crowd which repeatedly had been hailed by their own press as knowledgeable but always displays partisan attitude jeered at the Indians.
We have been told all along that the decision of the Umpire is to be accepted !! Bell went to the fourth Umpire Tim Robinson stating that he had heard the Umpires calling ‘over’. There are also reports that Strauss and Flower went to Indian dressing room at tea ask ing Dhoni whether he would withdraw his appeal. The rules of cricket read thus : A batsman is out Run out if at any time while the ball is in play no part of his bat or person is grounded behind the popping crease and his wicket is fairly put down by the opposing side. There may not be a direct comparable incident and there is no necessity of one. In a One dayer Vettori recalled Paul Collingwood after he had been given out of the crease. In 2006, Kiwis ran out Muralidharan – Murali completed a single which gave Kumara Sangakkara his century – he naively turned back and came down to greet Sanga for his century – the ball had not been dead – Brendon McCullum whipped off the bails, appealed and Murali was given out. Sanga was left stranded and Kiwis won that First test at Christchurch. The Newzealand captain Stephen Fleming stated that he had no regrets about the controversial dismissal, saying Muralitharan made a mistake and
paid the price. McCullum was unrepentant about the dismissal, saying a player as experienced as Muralitharan should know better. The dismissal stunned the Sri Lankans, who considered it was not in keeping with the true spirit of the competition. That was not a loner – in Aug 2005, during the second Test against Zimbabwe at Bulawayo, McCullum ran out the last man, Chris Mpofu, after the batsman turned around after a single had been taken and walked down the pitch to congratulate Blessing Mahwire, who had just crossed fifty for the first time at the international level. McCullum took the throw from the deep and whipped off the bails, leaving Mpofu in shock. Now where was the question of Dhoni recalling his appeal – the TV footage clearly reveals that Morgan raising his hand – a clear ‘no’ to a run – Bell keeps running – a legal run out and why should Indians and Dhoni be blamed for this act ? partly because he is an Indian. In that Golden jubilee test at Mumbai, the only one to be captained by Gundappa Vishwanath, who was always known for his innate sense of fair play, recalled Bob Taylor after he was given out caught behind but said that he had not touched the ball. That turned out to be Vishy’s only one at the helm and Indians lost that Test by a huge margin. There was no hotspot, match referee, third, fourth umpire those days…..

When it comes to playing by the spirit of the game, England has a hoary past. It is the same England who denied a runner and has now brought in a rule that there would be no runner…. It is this Nation which invented bodyline but christened it as fast leg theory bowling, a cricketing tactic devised by the English cricket team for their 1932– 33 Ashes tour of Australia, specifically to combat the extraordinary batting skill of Australia's Don Bradman. A bodyline delivery was one where the cricket ball was pitched short so as to rise towards the body of the batsman on the line of the leg stump, in the hope of creating leg-side deflections that could be caught by one of several fielders in the quadrant of the field behind square leg. This was considered by many to be intimidatory and physically threatening, to the point of being unfair in a game once supposed to have gentlemanly traditions. When they ruled the roost, they could bring in a rule that there can only be a single bouncer in an over, which clipped the teeth of the West Indies attack, which they were never able to cope up in the halcyon days of Windies. Last year at this very venue was the jelly bean incident – another notorious act by the British..
England has complete record and their archives of past series is to be revered. Let them turn the pages of almanac to read about the first Test played at Wankhede Statdium in Nov 1981 – Test No. 911 – a bitter one as India won by 138 runs. Krishnamachari Srikkanth made his debut – out for a duck in the first innings. In the second essay, he was extremely nervy and he had the peculiar habit of walking towards the square leg umpire after every delivery. He fended one towards the slip and took his casual walks – not attempting a run but out of the crease. John Emburey at the slips threw the wickets down and the whole England team celebrated ! Srikkanth was declared run out. That day, it was well within the spirits of the game – Gavaskar openly admonished Srikkanth and there was the remorseless remark that this boy should learn that this is not ‘juhu beach and he is not going for a walking’ !

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 11:44 AM [Full View]

MS Dhoni has character, he is a tall leader. He courageously recalled his decision, displaying greatness, strength of character, audacious courage, braveness BUT are the Englishmen right ?? Now after this incident, there has been generous appreciation from the ECB chief executive David Collier and the ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat, both of whom acknowledged the appeal for the run-out was a valid one. "The withdrawal of a valid appeal at the tea interval was made in the spirit of cricket by the India team and demonstrates the true spirit in which the game of cricket should be played and the excellent relationship between the ECB and BCCI," Collier said in a statement. "On behalf of the ECB I wish to express the England and Wales Cricket Board's grateful thanks the BCCI and the India team." Bell changed his version of hearing the Umpire and et al and spoke of him being naïve. Well an Englishman can afford to be naïve after 66 tests and more than 100 one dayers. Bell could cite genuine misapprehension in his favour, but upon reflection, he ought to know it was a school-boy error, and even though the umpires asked the Indian team to reconsider the appeal, he was given out legitimately. There were three former England captains on air, and they had no doubt that England would have done the same in similar circumstances. Bell was asked whether England would have taken a similar decision to India's, recalling a dismissed batsman, and said: "It's difficult to say. I think the right decision was made. We have been in a position before where something happened in an ODI, and I think we all put our hands up and made the wrong decision." Clever words from naïve batsman without even trying to put in words
that they would do a similar thing. Cricket is still a gentleman’s game and the spirits of the game are to be respected more !! [always by few Teams]

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 11:55 AM [Full View]

Shouldnt Bell have stayed back in the dressing room after tea citing 'Spirit of cricket' thing?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 11:56 AM [Full View]

inimE pEsi oNNum aaga pOradhu illa. match and Ranking 1 gaali. Maybe we can try saving the next 2 matches (romba aasaidhaan, irundhaalum) to avoid further damage.

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

WTF, BCCI and ECB relationship is to be praised for this act? idhukku koodavA nInga credit eduthuppInga. ECB?
THe credit goes to Dhoni and the Indian team alone. Nobody else. Back off, glory stealers.

And England, go on interpreting rules in your favour. Continue your nAdhAri thanam on field while escaping punishment while Asian players are pulled up for lesser crimes. And then like lord labakku doss hand out certificates to Dhoni and co., as though you are qualified to issue such certificates.

The last team and last nation on the world with spirit of cricket, humanity etc is England. Dhoni should come out and say we did it becase we are gentlemen - we dont need any certificate from England players, admins or former players, columnists or commentators. It is a taint to be praised by such people who have no respect for the spirit of the game themselves but expect it from others like LLD.

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 12:00 PM [Full View]

Maddy, Hate Test Cricket pacebook group ArambilkkalAmA? Why patronise a sport which is overtly biased in favour of anglo-saxon nations?

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 12:06 PM [Full View]

come dec England will get the 'spirit of cricket' award with their top ranking in test

had Dhoni not recalled Bell the Indian/English press would have labelled him sore loser even the slave madugalle would have fined the team for bringing the game into disrepute.

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 12:07 PM [Full View]

Even Bell was thanking both the teams for the 'spirit' they showed.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 12:14 PM [Full View]

WTF spirit English showed here?

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 12:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Rohit Sharma, Munaf etc - fined for showing disappointment at umpires' decision
Swann - only reprimand for kicking the stumps in frustration at his own incompetence
Former is an offence with some external provocation still fined
Latter is a offence without provocation by others - still only reprimanded
Where are the moderators who claim there is no bias in favour of anglo saxons in ICC?

Swann, US president kanakka pesi referees-a correct panniduvaan.......praveen kumar, avan girlfriend kittaye BC, MC-nnu dhaan pesuvaan - difference irukku-nga but yes the bias is glaringly obvious.......i expected this

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 12:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

WTF spirit English showed here?

At the end of day, English team couldve gone to a pub and shown some 'spirit'.

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 12:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I am possibly thinking of a 4-0 unless Zak/Shewag and gambhir come back. I imagined things could go wrong but this is worse.

same same..........as wizzy said, Dhoni looking clueless and resigned when he lets England score those "quick" runs.........whitewash urudhi unless rains help.......

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 12:36 PM [Full View]

http://www.thesportscampus.com/20110...st-opportunity

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 12:44 PM [Full View]

AB, pls post article content here

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 12:51 PM [Full View]

It cant be... Copyright protected.. Is there a way?

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 12:53 PM [Full View]

Dhoni's Decision: The rebirth of Sportsman's Spirit in Cricket

In a tremendous sporting gesture that will hopefully set a benchmark in test cricket, Mahendra Singh Dhoni decided to recall a very well set Ian Bell after he was run out in controversial circumstances on the third day of the second test against England at Trent Bridge. As far as Bell was concerned, by his own admission it was a careless mistake on his part and the Indian players were well within their rights to appeal for the run out. However, after England skipper Andrew Strauss and Coach Andy Flower requested to overturn the decision and the Indian camp decided to allow Bell to resume his innings, much to the delight of the full house at Trent Bridge.

In the age of cut throat competition, where very little beyond the end result is considered, Dhoni’s gesture is bound to increase his ever growing list of admirers. He has won almost everything a man can as a captain in world cricket today, but its moments like these that go into the folklore and remain etched in the minds of cricket followers.

This wasn’t the first incident of its kind in tests between India and England. Way back in 1979 at the Wankhede stadium in Bombay the then Indian skipper Gundappa Vishwanath recalled English batsman Bob Taylor after he was dubiously adjudged caught behind off Kapil Dev. Taylor, along with Ian Botham made most of the reprieve and went on to forge a record sixth wicket stand of 171 runs and paved the way for a 10 wicket victory over India. But more than the result or Botham’s heroics, the match is remembered for the spirit shown by the Indian skipper.

On the other hand, the gesture will not go well with everyone. Voices will be raised against Dhoni’s lack of killer instinct. While recalling the batsman surely earned a lot of goodwill and praise, but the team isn’t here to make friends and garner good wishes. India badly needed a wicket at that stage and should have taken it whichever way it came, especially that of a centurion. With this decision, the Indian skipper might have handed the test to the opposition and with it the numero uno ranking.

Questions will arise weather Strauss and the England team would have done the same thing. Not so long ago, in 2008 at The Oval against New Zealand, the home team led by Paul Collingwood strictly adhered to the rule book and ran out Kiwi batsman Grant Elliot after a mid pitch collision with Ryan Sidebottom, letting the ‘spirit of the game’ pass by unnoticed. When the Aussies were a dominant force for about two decades, along with their superlative skills they were also known for playing their game hard, with most players making it a policy to not walk back to the pavilion unless the umpire rules them out. Even the Indian team has found itself at the wrong end many a times, the most glaring incident being the run out of Sachin Tendulkar in Kolkata in 1999 despite the fact that he was obstructed by Shoaib Akhtar, almost leading to a riot at the Eden Gardens.

But MS Dhoni, who is known to raise a few eyebrows with his decision, made sure that there was something to remember from an otherwise very forgetful day. His act instills the belief that cricket is still a gentleman’s game and one hopes that other teams will follow his example.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

His act instills the belief that cricket is still a gentleman’s game and one hopes that other teams will follow his example.

angadhaan director vekkaraaru oru twistu!

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 02:19 PM [Full View]

sari andha 100avadhu centuryAvadhu adippAr manasai thEthikkalAm(like in the 1990s) apdinnu pArthA ivarum pidivAdhamA Ravi Saastri rangekku lottu-m vachuttu, adhaiyum muzhusA paNNAma out Agittu pOyidaRAr

DisasterO disaster indha tour. England were only optimistic about 2-0 or 3-1 but namma oru step mEla pOyi 3-0 or 4-0 vechukOngangara rangekku vandhuttOm.
In the current circumstances, 3-1 will be a moral victory for India

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 02:37 PM [Full View]

One interesting comment from Cricinfo..

This just shows that tea helps in good decision making. Whenever in doubt, just have a cup of tea.

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 02:42 PM [Full View]

Plumji,

What is this 'Kris Srikanth crying -Imran calling him back -out next ball' incident? Didnt follow cricket then. Pls throw some light..

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 02:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

In the current circumstances, 3-1 will be a moral victory for India

இதெல்லாம் ரெம்ப ஓவர்... எதாச்சும் ஒரு மேட்ச் draw பண்ணாலே ஆறுதல் தான்... with the current form, even sehwag can't make any difference...

I support 4-0 whitewash for two reasons..

1. இந்த ஹர்பஜன் தண்டம் வீனா போன முண்டம் டீமா விட்டு தூக்கணும்..

2. India should start supporting UDRS...

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 02:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

India should start supporting UDRS...

hmm.. Even the most trusted Hotspot is going for further testing now.. this shows the defects of URDS.. Indian team's tand on this is correct and the incidents happening are proving that..

From: satissh_r on 1st August 2011 02:47 PM [Full View]

Harbhajan is India's latest injury worry

besides his poor show he has ensured further worry for his teammates by picking up an injury. The 31-year-old pulled a stomach muscle and was in pain throughout the third day's play.

"He was facing a lot of problems while bowling and couldn't complete his action," explained teammate Rahul Dravid

"For the second successive Test we are a bowler short and that is tough," he added.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report...y/20110801.htm

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Plumji,
What is this 'Kris Srikanth crying -Imran calling him back -out next ball' incident? Didnt follow cricket then. Pls throw some light..

IIRC in Sharjah ODI during 80s Srikanth was declared out and he protested that he is indeed not out. Imran (The bowler and Captain of Pak) duly recalled him and dismissed him the next delivery

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

If the correct decisions are to be made, then umpires should get the aid of technology instead of batting team or bowling team asking for reviews with quota..

similar to runouts.. actually if the umpire cant rule runouts, how the hell he can rule LBWs? if it is not wating time, then why cant they goto third umpire for all decisions?

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 02:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

hmm.. Even the most trusted Hotspot is going for further testing now.. this shows the defects of URDS.. Indian team's tand on this is correct and the incidents happening are proving that..

ஆனா இந்த umpires குடுக்கிற wrong decisions பார்த்த வயிறு எரியுது... they might be doing it just for the sake India should support UDRS..

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 02:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Harbhajan is India's latest injury worry

besides his poor show he has ensured further worry for his teammates by picking up an injury. The 31-year-old pulled a stomach muscle and was in pain throughout the third day's play.

"He was facing a lot of problems while bowling and couldn't complete his action," explained teammate Rahul Dravid

"For the second successive Test we are a bowler short and that is tough," he added.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report...y/20110801.htm

The title is wrong

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 02:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

ஆனா இந்த umpires குடுக்கிற wrong decisions பார்த்த வயிறு எரியுது... they might be doing it just for the sake India should support UDRS..

see..thats the problem.. we are targetting the wrong issue here.. the issue is the capability of the umpire.. that should be dealt in a different way.. if at all actually there is a will..

From: Balaji.r on 1st August 2011 02:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Harbhajan is India's latest injury worry

besides his poor show he has ensured further worry for his teammates by picking up an injury. The 31-year-old pulled a stomach muscle and was in pain throughout the third day's play.

"He was facing a lot of problems while bowling and couldn't complete his action," explained teammate Rahul Dravid

"For the second successive Test we are a bowler short and that is tough," he added.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report...y/20110801.htm

ivan teamla iruntha thaan oru bowler short. Indeed, this is a good news

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 02:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

hmm.. Even the most trusted Hotspot is going for further testing now.. this shows the defects of URDS.. Indian team's tand on this is correct and the incidents happening are proving that..

On the sidenote, the person who found the hotspot technology has accused the Indian players for using stickers that would camouflage the hotspot effect. Indha avamaanam namakku thevaiya?

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 02:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Harbhajan is India's latest injury worry

besides his poor show he has ensured further worry for his teammates by picking up an injury. The 31-year-old pulled a stomach muscle and was in pain throughout the third day's play.http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report...y/20110801.htm

ஏன்னா வில்லத்தனம்... அடுத்த ரெண்டு மாட்ச்சும் ஆடினா எப்படியும் விக்கெட் எடுக்க முடியாம டீம்'எ விட்டு தள்ளி வசுரவாங்கன்னு இவனே எஸ்கேப் ஆகுறான்...

அடுத்த series birth confirmed...

as usual, Dhoni will back him up as the best spinner test cricket has ever seen...

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 02:56 PM [Full View]

For a runout decision, the umpire has to only see the bat crossing the line when the ball hits.. but for LBW, he has to see pitching position, line, bounce/height, turn/swing, edge, bat first/pad first etc..

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 03:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

ஆனா இந்த umpires குடுக்கிற wrong decisions பார்த்த வயிறு எரியுது... they might be doing it just for the sake India should support UDRS..

arignar Sathya anRE sonnar!

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 03:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

as usual, Dhoni will back him up as the best spinner test cricket has ever seen...

idhu mattumdhaan enakku puriyaadha pudhir

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 03:16 PM [Full View]

there could be rain interruptions today in nottingham...

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 03:24 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

there could be rain interruptions today in nottingham...

which means the next two days are gonna be gloomy making batting to be difficult.

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 03:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

which means the next two days are gonna be gloomy making batting to be difficult.

pitch eppadi irundha ennanga, namma pasanga out aavaradhu out aagitte dhaan iruppanga.......they lost 6 wickets for 21 runs on bright sunny flat wicket on 2nd day....

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cricbuzz

Update on Harbhajan: Bad news for India. He has got a lower abdominal strain and will be going for a check up.

first of all, its a good news for india and bad news only for this girl
http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgur...QEwAQ&dur=1183

since we dont know "how low" is that abdomen strain

From: villan007 on 1st August 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

pitch eppadi irundha ennanga, namma pasanga out aavaradhu out aagitte dhaan iruppanga.......
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kovai brothers cricket match than nyabaham varuthu

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

i am not bothered about the 'namma pasanga' maddy...
i am worried for the gloominess in weather could affect the batting ease of the trio.

From: villan007 on 1st August 2011 03:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

i am worried for the gloominess in weather could affect the batting ease of the trio.

by the by, overcast conditions help swing/movement ngra theory oru myth nu engayo padicha nyabaham

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

first of all, its a good news for india and bad news only for this girl
http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgur...QEwAQ&dur=1183

since we dont know "how low" is that abdomen strain

aduttha test'ku romba time irukku...
adhukkulla ready aagitta enna panradhu?

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Looks like PK is also injured..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

there could be rain interruptions today in nottingham...

very unlikely !

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 04:12 PM [Full View]

England's run rate 4.51... I am planning to retire from watching cricket..

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:14 PM [Full View]

asingap'padutthuraanunga...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

asingap'padutthuraanunga...

even a Tail ender like "Bresnan" scores a half century !

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 04:16 PM [Full View]

The way he batted yesterday, I would not call him a tail ender.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

vaNdiya vithudunu sonnaa kEkka maattengareenga, maanatha vaangareenga

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

even a Tail ender like "Bresnan" scores a half century !

yes, the one who got out lbw twice yesterday and was denied by the ICC.

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 04:18 PM [Full View]

ayyo, Bresnan century adichuruvaan pOla irukkE

idha thatti kEkka yaarumE illaiyaa?

PK-kku enna aachu? Out of field-aa inikku?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 04:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

The way he batted yesterday, I would not call him a tail ender.

May be, I did not watch the match but on paper , he is supposed to be "Tail ender" , I guess.

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

Hmmm.. Since he walks in at No.8, u can call him so..

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

sikkiram declare pannungada.. India batting'yachum paarthuttu porom... chey.. ella matchum eppoda declare pannuvaangandre range'kku vandhudurom..

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

Oh.. This test is going to end in a draw.

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Oh.. This test is going to end in a draw.

ennaadhu?

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

ajay, we need to play 5 full sessions...

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Oh.. This test is going to end in a draw.

chattergy?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ajay, we need to play 5 full sessions...

We need 4 Dravids, 4 Ravi Shastris and 3 Sunny G's to save the match

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Oh.. This test is going to end in a draw.

irunthaalum ungalukku nambikkai jaasthi Ajay..

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

even a Tail ender like "Bresnan" scores a half century !

he has a high score of 91 already........which will be broken today is another thing

but i hope India dont get all out for 70,80 like SL

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:26 PM [Full View]

england deserve panraanga, azhuguni aattam aadraanga, umpires yemathuraanga, weather supportive'a illai.. adhellaam vera discussion....
zaheer'nra orae oru bowlera nambi test match velayaadra oru team doesn deserve to be a no.1 team i say.

no strategy, not saying it in frustration.

From: sankara1970 on 1st August 2011 04:27 PM [Full View]

varavanlam century adicha nanga evvalavu than thanga mudiyum-ithu enna udamba illa rubbera

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:28 PM [Full View]

SS, valid point. We never had the foresight to plan and groom players and did not cover for the negative scenario of missing Zaheer.

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 04:29 PM [Full View]

For all the ugly things going around, we are going to draw this match and win next 2. I am hopeful.

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 04:30 PM [Full View]

Broad is showing two categories.. kovam vandha eppadi aaduvan.., varatti eppadi..

now he is angry it seems..

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 04:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

zaheer'nra orae oru bowlera nambi test match velayaadra oru team doesn deserve to be a no.1 team i say

we did had them in trouble when they were 62-5 at lords and 124/8 in this match but its just that we are lacking intent here......also our batting has been the problem more than bowling, we cannot lose test matches with just 25-30 overs to go on final day

From: Balaji.r on 1st August 2011 04:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

SS, valid point. We never had the foresight to plan and groom players and did not cover for the negative scenario of missing Zaheer.

ch-28 match maathiri aagipochu.

by any chance,are you into testing?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Balaji.r

ch-28 match maathiri aagipochu.

by any chance,are you into testing?

Correctaa kaNdu pudichiteenga (Negative Scenario eh?

)

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

A pretty lady in the crowd holds aloft a banner which reads: 'Marry me Stuart!'

How is this possible?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:37 PM [Full View]

Same sex marriages are now allowed in many countries

From: Balaji.r on 1st August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Sathya Athey , Athey

Scorpio, leave pottu match paakureengala?

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

we did had them in trouble when they were 62-5 at lords and 124/8 in this match but its just that we are lacking intent here......also our batting has been the problem more than bowling, we cannot lose test matches with just 25-30 overs to go on final day

why is the intent not there?
wats the problem? are we missing kirsten here? is it the influence of duncan?
or cos of dhoni's bad time and bad performance?
wat are we gonna blame it on?
now donts say bcci/ipl etc.,

watever be, we had a team of 11 valid players who have won us matches before...
why didn we show the intent then?
even those scenarios which u listed, it happened only in a span of 10 overs... we did not push upon further even for a complete session...
what had the team discussed overnight?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:39 PM [Full View]

SS, wait wait, ovvoNNA kELunga

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

Balaji- Indha kandraavi-ya leave pOttu vErE paarkanumaa?

Cricbuzz paathu vara vayitherical-E pOdhum

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

ஹப்பாடா...

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

Bresnan and Barbie out! No century & pipty for them :yaay:

( enna maadhiri ellam alpa sandhOsham pada vEndi irukku

)

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

Bresnan out for 90, his highest of 91 remains against b'desh

hew:

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 04:44 PM [Full View]

SS,

Edhachum ippadi kettukitte irunga.. Neenga kekka kekka wickets vizhudhu..

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

SS,

Edhachum ippadi kettukitte irunga.. Neenga kekka kekka wickets vizhudhu..

appuram avar soppana sundhari paththi yEdhaachum kEkka pOraar!

From: sankara1970 on 1st August 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

there is no sign of declaration, namba team kku 350 rune athigam-ippo Jimmi vera vandu kaicha poran

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

wicket vechu enna panradhu ajay?
what plan do we have?
what plan did we come out with this morning?

doesn anybody here have a guess?

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:47 PM [Full View]

From: BM on 1st August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

itha ellam oru ambathu overs ku munnadiye kEtu irukka kOdaatha

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 04:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

why is the intent not there?
wats the problem? are we missing kirsten here? is it the influence of duncan?
or cos of dhoni's bad time and bad performance?
wat are we gonna blame it on?
now donts say bcci/ipl etc.,

watever be, we had a team of 11 valid players who have won us matches before...
why didn we show the intent then?
even those scenarios which u listed, it happened only in a span of 10 overs... we did not push upon further even for a complete session...
what had the team discussed overnight?

problem of intent could be due to various reasons like fatigue, lack of talent to keep going in these conditions but main reason i see the "lack of preparation" .........i dunno how we cannot blame BCCI for this......the other thing is our perennial problem of lethargy creeping into the team here, i dunno if its due to absence of kirsten or presence of fletcher, or present-still-absent state of Dhoni in this series.....

we also need to credit England for pushing us to the corner.......y'day they also could have easily slipped to 350 A.O with that second new ball but prior, bresnan have held fort........

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 04:50 PM [Full View]

Will Ingiland declare b4 lunch or wait until the lead reaches 500

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:50 PM [Full View]

sirikkadhinga sathya...
i cant give up something so easily and sit back laughing at the situation...

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 04:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

sirikkadhinga sathya...
i cant give up something so easily and sit back laughing at the situation...

thunbam varumbOdhu sirikkaNumnu periyavanga sollirukkaanga!

From: KV on 1st August 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

Ah! Bajanaikkaaran vavuru valee nu solli sick leavu potutaana?
Looks like the prick ain't ready to stomach the pressure no more. Nastiness!

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

problem of intent could be due to various reasons like fatigue, lack of talent to keep going in these conditions but main reason i see the "lack of preparation" .........i dunno how we cannot blame BCCI for this......the other thing is our perennial problem of lethargy creeping into the team here, i dunno if its due to absence of kirsten or presence of fletcher, or present-still-absent state of Dhoni in this series.....

we also need to credit England for pushing us to the corner.......y'day they also could have easily slipped to 350 A.O with that second new ball but prior, bresnan have held fort........

we simply did not have a plan...
there was no thought went in the approach towards the tour... no time spent thinking over...
approach towards a series, approach towards a test, approach towards an innings, approach towards a session, approach towards an apponent player...
there is no sign for any of it...
the only macro level plan was to, try to bowl good deliveries and get them out...

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

thunbam varumbOdhu sirikkaNumnu periyavanga sollirukkaanga!

adhu thunbam thaanaa varrappo, namma kaila onnum illai'nra nelamaila dhaan...
namma panra thappaala thunbam thedikkirappo sirichom'na apram oorae kai kotti sirikkum...

naan ungala thappu sollala sathya... summa pov.

From: sathya_1979 on 1st August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adhu thunbam thaanaa varrappo, namma kaila onnum illai'nra nelamaila dhaan...
namma panra thappaala thunbam thedikkirappo sirichom'na apram oorae kai kotti sirikkum...

naan ungala thappu sollala sathya... summa pov.

adhaan ippO pozhaippu sirippaa sirikkudhE

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

478 to win..

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 05:03 PM [Full View]

ரொம்பவே அசிங்கப் படுத்துறாங்க. இந்த தொடர் முடியுற வரைக்கும் நாமெல்லாம் ஒரு முக்காடு போட்டுக்கிட்டு சுத்தணும் போலருக்கு.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

PK'nra orae oru bowler'aala we have got them all out twice in this match...
yesterday atleast sreesanth was trying to get a wicket... and was unlucky...
ishanth overa pottaan... PK maadhiri podrana, KP maadhiri pottuttu irundhaan...
endha dog namma bowling coach? last one year'la avan enna report kudutthiruppaan bowlers progress patthi?

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

we simply did not have a plan...
there was no thought went in the approach towards the tour... no time spent thinking over...
approach towards a series, approach towards a test, approach towards an innings, approach towards a session, approach towards an apponent player...
there is no sign for any of it...
the only macro level plan was to, try to bowl good deliveries and get them out...

u cant blame team for such rushed up prep for a important series........BCCI has to be blamed but apart from that lack of talent is a big reason......come on, lets be honest, we were @ no.6-7 in rankings 5 yrs back and i think thats what where we deserve to be without winning a series in Aus, SA, Eng and in WI,NZ not convincing enough........we are just not there yet and we are bound to be beaten by good sides in their home.......and lack of plan B or lack of talent to execute plan B has made it a thrashing.......

im expecting india to fold today itself but hopefully something above 200, pls

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 05:07 PM [Full View]

இப்பவே பிசிசிஐ, தோனி கூட்டு சேர்ந்து ஒரு வெற்று காகிதத்தில் நீங்க தான் இன்னும் பல வருடங்களுக்கு நம்பர் ஒன்னு என எழுதி கைநாட்ட வச்சிட்டு ஓடி வந்திடலாம். நம்மால டிஸ்கஷன் பண்றதுக்கே முடியல. பாவம் அவங்களால எப்படித்தான் களத்துல நிக்க முடியுதோ? பாவம்.

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 05:09 PM [Full View]

120 ஓவர்கள் வீசியிருக்காங்க. அதுல ஒன்பதே ஓவர் மட்டுமே பஜ்ஜிக்கு. இதற்காகவே அவன் தொங்கிடலாம்.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

u cant blame team for such rushed up prep for a important series........BCCI has to be blamed but apart from that lack of talent is a big reason......come on, lets be honest, we were @ no.6-7 in rankings 5 yrs back and i think thats what where we deserve to be without winning a series in Aus, SA, Eng and in WI,NZ not convincing enough........we are just not there yet and we are bound to be beaten by good sides in their home.......and lack of plan B or lack of talent to execute plan B has made it a thrashing.......

im expecting india to fold today itself but hopefully something above 200, pls

maddy... leave that preparation thing...
we have come here... played a practice match, and lost the first match...
wat did we learn from it and wat did we plan according to that? is there any new approach shown in the second test or in the second innings or when we approached the day today well after realizing england havin the upper hand?

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

120 ஓவர்கள் வீசியிருக்காங்க. அதுல ஒன்பதே ஓவர் மட்டுமே பஜ்ஜிக்கு. இதற்காகவே அவன் தொங்கிடலாம்.

avandhaan vavvaal maadhiri vizhaama thonggittae irukkaanae... adhaanae prachinai...

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 05:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

first of all, its a good news for india and bad news only for this girl
http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgur...QEwAQ&dur=1183

since we dont know "how low" is that abdomen strain

naughty phlow Maddy

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

The wall has been broken by Fraud!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 05:31 PM [Full View]

Vanga Flau annEh !

Istart your chatter ji

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 05:33 PM [Full View]

sigh.. Instead of dying like this they can better try to attack and eventually lose the match.. how many times I have felt like this for India.. from the Azhar times.. but they will do the same and meekly surrender...

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 05:34 PM [Full View]

pesaama saturday sunday'layae thoatthirukkalaam...
indha angle'a naan yosichu paakkala...

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 05:37 PM [Full View]

Hayya! Lunch break at Trent Bridge

Innum 40 nimishathukku endha wicket-um vizhaadhu!

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 05:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Hayya! Lunch break at Trent Bridge

Innum 40 nimishathukku endha wicket-um vizhaadhu!

Scorps

you have made me to smile

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 05:44 PM [Full View]

what had the team discussed overnight?

Harby: nALaikku epdiyum thOthuduvOm. evening engE sAppidalAm?
Yuvi: Happy Singh Indian Restaurantnu oNNu pArthEN. angE Paneer paratha & Chicken Butter Masala superA irukkumAm. namma hotel Receptionist punjabi kutti sollichu
Mishra:i yAm vegetarian vonly.
Harby: wait, wait. Rewind. punjabi kuttiyA? nAn pArkavE illai

Yuvi: adhukkellAm oru 'idhu' vENumdA. nee dhAn edhukkume sari vara mAttiyE

Dravid(mutters under breath): Yeah, it is years since he bowled a maiden over. *mildly laughs*
Harby: (gets up to slap Yuvi). (Mishra, Munaf hold him with difficulty)
Harby to Dravid: Ei nee edhukku sirikkaRa. muNu muNunnu enna sonna? reNdu inningslaiyum century adikka vakkillai pEsa vandhuttAru

. pOyi book padichittu thoongu
Dravid: Ok. I'll do anything for the team. *exits* followed by laxman.
(sachin and Dhoni walk by)
Harby jumps up to Sachin and Dhoni: paaji, aap ke liyE kucch laaon? Mahi, kuchch chAhyiE tumhe?
Dhoni: oru wicket vENum. edukka mudiyumA?
Harby: <escape>

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 05:49 PM [Full View]

Plum

From: KV on 1st August 2011 05:54 PM [Full View]

Dhaadi vechcha Chadrasegar was spotted around the Trentbridge stadium, singing aloud, to no-one in particular - kaadhoram sangu sattham kekudhaaa, kekumbodhu sogam vandhu thaakudhaaa. Sources say he seemed to be tailing a person in a black veil who was seen moving hurriedly from the stadium to a Punjabi food joint nearby.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 05:55 PM [Full View]

"If it was me I'd have run him out and let him think long and hard about remaining in his crease until the ball is dead while sitting on the balcony watching others score the runs he should have."
No spirit of cricket nonsense for former England allrounder Ian Botham !

From: KV on 1st August 2011 05:57 PM [Full View]

Plummare!

Dravid(mutters under breath): Yeah, it is years since he bowled a maiden over. *mildly laughs*

Brillante idhi!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 06:09 PM [Full View]

Regarding this run out issue of "Bell" ! I recall another incident similar to this, it was a game of SL Vs NZ, some SL batsmen scored a Century , and it was Murali who was batting along with this "other" SL batsmen (Silva ??? ) ! As soon as this guy scored a century , Magician went to congratulate him and as soon as he moved away from the crease, Vettori Stumps Murali and he was given out !

Spirit of the Game eh ? In this Regard Dhoni stands tall amongst other!

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 06:13 PM [Full View]

Good one, Plummer..

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

Suththam..

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Harby: nALaikku epdiyum thOthuduvOm. evening engE sAppidalAm?
Yuvi: Happy Singh Indian Restaurantnu oNNu pArthEN. angE Paneer paratha & Chicken Butter Masala superA irukkumAm. namma hotel Receptionist punjabi kutti sollichu
Mishra:i yAm vegetarian vonly.
Harby: wait, wait. Rewind. punjabi kuttiyA? nAn pArkavE illai
Yuvi: adhukkellAm oru 'idhu' vENumdA. nee dhAn edhukkume sari vara mAttiyE
Dravid(mutters under breath): Yeah, it is years since he bowled a maiden over. *mildly laughs*
Harby: (gets up to slap Yuvi). (Mishra, Munaf hold him with difficulty)
Harby to Dravid: Ei nee edhukku sirikkaRa. muNu muNunnu enna sonna? reNdu inningslaiyum century adikka vakkillai pEsa vandhuttAru

. pOyi book padichittu thoongu
Dravid: Ok. I'll do anything for the team. *exits* followed by laxman.
(sachin and Dhoni walk by)
Harby jumps up to Sachin and Dhoni: paaji, aap ke liyE kucch laaon? Mahi, kuchch chAhyiE tumhe?
Dhoni: oru wicket vENum. edukka mudiyumA?
Harby: <escape>

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:20 PM [Full View]

oh no - are we heading for a less than 100 score

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 06:20 PM [Full View]

to No.1 Spot..

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 06:22 PM [Full View]

ha.. at least now go for runs.. without Dravid and lax you guys cant even stay for 2 sessions at most.. just go for your shots.. come on.. show some spine..

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

mallaya tweets

mallaya rubbing some salt into the wound(s)...sample these tweets

"After creating controversy brand owners are showing more Bhajji "make it large" adverts. Arre Bhai take some "large" wickets too."

"Come on Bhajji bhai - "make it large". India has to win this test. Good luck my friend. Give them "doosra large" !

From: sankara1970 on 1st August 2011 06:24 PM [Full View]

can v declare now?

From: Balaji.r on 1st August 2011 06:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

mallaya rubbing some salt into the wound(s)...sample these tweets

"After creating controversy brand owners are showing more Bhajji "make it large" adverts. Arre Bhai take some "large" wickets too."

"Come on Bhajji bhai - "make it large". India has to win this test. Good luck my friend. Give them "doosra large" !

oru wicket-ku vakku illa, ithula large wicket veraya

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 06:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sankara1970

can v declare now?

Idhu too much..

From: Nerd on 1st August 2011 06:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sankara1970

can v declare now?

..................

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:29 PM [Full View]

Neram seri illenna, edhuvo paamba maari thannaye kuthumaam. Humiliating...

Singam vera meendum meendum asingappadudhu. Dravitt, lone soldier...

Adutha series enga, yaar kooda?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

Plum

............

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sankara1970

can v declare now?

as what ??

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Neram seri illenna, edhuvo paamba maari thannaye kuthumaam. Humiliating...

Singam vera meendum meendum asingappadudhu. Dravitt, lone soldier...

Adutha series enga, yaar kooda?

Lords kakkooose kazhuvanum, okva?

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 06:33 PM [Full View]

Bala Anne,

Next series is against the former heavy weights, wounded tigers - AUSTRALIA

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 06:35 PM [Full View]

sani won't rest until sachin gets out..stop jinxing him idiot

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:36 PM [Full View]

:auuuu: ...........

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:37 PM [Full View]

Kutha vachu ukkaandhuru Iyengaar, please....

From: villan007 on 1st August 2011 06:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Kutha vachu ukkaandhuru Iyengaar, please....

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

kuttha vachu ukkaara try panni dhaan pona matchla mokkayaa out aanaar.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

kuttha vachu ukkaara try panni dhaan pona matchla mokkayaa out aanaar.

Eh? All-reals (all trials mbaanga sila per) first ball-e feet movement illama drive aadi thaane out aanaan

From: KV on 1st August 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Adhaan, aadi poi, avani vandha, topless-a varuvaainga nu townu sosiyar solleerkaaramla. Vandhruvainga.

From: sankara1970 on 1st August 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

what is highest difference by which a team lost a test-is there any statistics avaliable?
just wondering why Strauss did not declare earlier-
may be he thought batting practice for his tailenders.

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

All-reals (all trials mbaanga sila per) first ball-e

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

hmmm..........

From: sankara1970 on 1st August 2011 06:47 PM [Full View]

Abhinav Mukund eppadi selection anan-ithukku munnadi Ranji trophy viladi irukana?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:47 PM [Full View]

..............

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 06:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

hmmm..........

இதோட நிறுத்திக்குவோம்... :ஊஸ்:

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

Mukund plays 41 balls

this is the improvement u were asking for SS

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

next inline Aniruddha cheeka for opening for the third test please..

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

போடா நோங்கோங்கோ...

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 06:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Eh? All-reals (all trials mbaanga sila per) first ball-e feet movement illama drive aadi thaane out aanaan

misunderstanding...

enna chonnaen....

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:53 PM [Full View]

Adikkadi ball kick-off laam aagudhu pola irukke. Idhula eppadi avinga ithana run adichaanga?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 06:55 PM [Full View]

Anderson to Tendulkar, FOUR!!, too good! Overpitched on off, Sachin leans forward and drives it through mid off. Anderson has a few words to say to Sachin after that

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:55 PM [Full View]

its been tough personally too looking at indians miss chances, outplayed and collapse like this........it affects our personal lives isnt it

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Adikkadi ball kick-off laam aagudhu pola irukke. Idhula eppadi avinga ithana run adichaanga?

idhu therilaya??
4.6 run rate'la adichaainga... sila neratthula 6.2 run rate'la kooda adichaanga..

From: hamid on 1st August 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

Anderson to Tendulkar, FOUR!!, too good! Overpitched on off, Sachin leans forward and drives it through mid off. Anderson has a few words to say to Sachin after that

to Sachin.. ivanunga kitta ellam spirit of cricket pathi pesikittu

From: villan007 on 1st August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

Raina

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

its been tough personally too looking at indians miss chances, outplayed and collapse like this........it affects our personal lives isnt it

cricket by itself is personal for us.
naethu evening irundha tension'la, veetla pesarappo erinju vizhundhuttaen...
but rightly they understood why.

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Anderson has a few words to say to Sachin after that

because Anderson is a man of few words, appadinnu Nasser husaain solluvaaru ippa

aana adhukku munnadi Raina out aaittaaru

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

Raina gets out to short pitched ball.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

worstest performance i have ever seen... still going.

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

but rightly they understood why.

Saranraj's father in Gendilman: thats bcos u r unmarried...........my wife was not too kind with my antics yesterday.........

From: raajarasigan on 1st August 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

என்னைய இது... வேற பிட்ச்ல ஆடுரைங்கள....

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

if anybody hav any idea on how we played in the three test series in australia under the captaincy of sachin??
how bad was it?

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

Raina gone, will Rain come now atleast??

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

if anybody hav any idea on how we played in the three test series in australia under the captaincy of sachin??
how bad was it?

*That*, was painful.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

Saranraj's father in Gendilman: thats bcos u r unmarried...........my wife was not too kind with my antics yesterday.........

don worry, aduttha test appo avangalum understand'vaanga.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

*That*, was painful.

but, were they all over us like this one?
setting such a mammoth target and getting us out cheaply...

From: ajaybaskar on 1st August 2011 07:06 PM [Full View]

This is so cruel...

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 07:09 PM [Full View]

Will Bhajji come for batting today? Adikira 1 run vayithu valiyOda adichaa enna kuRanjurum?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:09 PM [Full View]

SS
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63865.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63866.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63867.html

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

SS
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63865.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63866.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63867.html

sarva naasam except for Sachin;s and Laxman;s amazing centuries

From: KV on 1st August 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

If, by the faintest chance, Sachu stands tall amidst the ruins and scores a fine century here, the 'sachin adichcha namma thothurvom' koottam will happily lap it up. Idhellam vidhi.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

SS
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63865.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63866.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63867.html

i remember that series was a disaster... but was it worse than this is the question...
appo ivlo osaratthula irundhu ulundhomaa?

From: KV on 1st August 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Will Bhajji come for batting today? Adikira 1 run vayithu valiyOda adichaa enna kuRanjurum?

Indha nai segara, punju tinju illa... ku...ppura pOttu midhikkanam.

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

Kv, indha aasai vERayA? Dark Comedy, Dark tarantino Anurag Kashyap padamnu nenaichu pArthudunga

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

Drinks are on the field now

Yuvraj like DevD: ek thumbsup, vodka ke saath

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

he is not the major reason for this performance now...
avana thitradha choice'la uduvom...
did anybody who is watching the match could say on how our batsmen who got out played?
was it a give away or jus that the bowling was brilliant which we have never seen or faced in all these years.?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 1st August 2011 07:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

he is not the major reason for this performance now...
avana thitradha choice'la uduvom...
did anybody who is watching the match could say on how our batsmen who got out played?
was it a give away or jus that the bowling was brilliant which we have never seen or faced in all these years.?

mixture of both......laxman got a ripper....any top player would have gotten out....but it was a bad shot from raina......

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Indha nai segara, punju tinju illa... ku...

Mano at vadivelu: moonja paaru
annan GM: enga irundha dhaane

From: Cinemarasigan on 1st August 2011 07:27 PM [Full View]

Nest series Viru vandhA ellAm sari Ayidum.. India nees some good opening bat who can thrash the ball,,, otherwise ellArum ipdi thaan varisaiyA pavilion-ku poyittE iruppAinga...

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

KP spots an opportunity to check out Yuvraj Singh's bat.

vitta vaseline irukka illayannu nakki paathuruvaanga pola

is this vaseline same like the one used in fairness creams??

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

edhu... india varra flight'ku white paint adichu, mookkula siren vechu, ECNALUBMA 'nu ezhudhi'dhaan body edutthu varanum pola...

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

Highest margin-la test victory stats yaaravadhu eduthu sollunga. Adhayaavadhu inikku minjaama irukkalaam

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 1st August 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

erasmus again.......athaan thokkaporomnnu therinjiduchla....apparam en da

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

appo ivlo osaratthula irundhu ulundhomaa?

Paadhaalathula irundhom, so appadi paatha this is the greater fall

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Paadhaalathula irundhom, so appadi paatha this is the greater fall

thats why it hurts more.

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 07:36 PM [Full View]

World champions India have slipped to third place in the ICC ODI team rankings after an annual update of the list in which Australia have extended their lead at the top to 12 points.

Despite capturing the World Cup 2011, India fell behind runners-up Sri Lanka in the updated rankings.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...cording-to-icc

sandhadi saakula idha gavanikkavE illa.

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

yuvi is putting up a masterclass on playing fast bowling..mukund/raina watch and learn.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

Broad to Tendulkar, no run, oohs and aahs from Broad, fullish on off, Tendulkar looks to drive but gets a thick inside edge to the pads

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

World champions India have slipped to third place in the ICC ODI team rankings after an annual update of the list in which Australia have extended their lead at the top to 12 points.

Despite capturing the World Cup 2011, India fell behind runners-up Sri Lanka in the updated rankings.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...cording-to-icc

sandhadi saakula idha gavanikkavE illa.

undraayara'yaachum irukkamaa pudichukkanum...

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 07:41 PM [Full View]

விரக்தியின் உச்சியில் நாம். ஆர்வம், ஈர்ப்பு எல்லாமே நம்மை விட்டு போனபின்பு சச்சின் நின்று விளையாடிகிறார். கொடுமையான நேரம் என்றால் இதைத்தான் சொல்லவேண்டும்.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

test ranking match mudinja udanae update panniduvangala? illa series mudinjaa dhaana?

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

Odisla World Cup dhaan mukkiyam. Ranking illai. So its okay Scorp.
Adhe maadhiri oNNu solREn kEttu manasa thEththikkOnga
Indha naal varaikkum Testsla ranking dhaan mukkiyam. World cuplaam kedaiyaadhu. But inge dhaan director twist vechaar. Testsla world championship varudhu. Namma adhula jeyichukkalaam. Dhoni is good at winning tournaments

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Odisla World Cup dhaan mukkiyam. Ranking illai. So its okay Scorp.
Adhe maadhiri oNNu solREn kEttu manasa thEththikkOnga
Indha naal varaikkum Testsla ranking dhaan mukkiyam. World cuplaam kedaiyaadhu. But inge dhaan director twist vechaar. Testsla world championship varudhu. Namma adhula jeyichukkalaam. Dhoni is good at winning tournaments

vechutteengalaa aappu...
indha naadum naattu makkalum naasamaai pogattum...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 07:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Despite capturing the World Cup 2011, India fell behind runners-up Sri Lanka in the updated rankings.

which means SL has the "chance" to be no 1, If they beat Australia 4 -1! (they have a very good chance , as it is in their own backyard)

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...500/135553.jpg

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

anybody have a lighter?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 1st August 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

yuvraj's gone......koduma da paa.....mosama poitrukku

From: VinodKumar's on 1st August 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

which means SL has the "chance" to be no 1, If they beat Australia 4 -1! (they have a very good chance , as it is in their own backyard)

Maapilaiyae sethu poitaan inga vanthu maamanuku maalai kedachuruchunu seigh ....

From: KV on 1st August 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

One can understand that Raina's athletic and puts a lot of effort in his fielding, catching practice and all. But adhaye mindla vechchutu, batting panrapo kooda ovvoruvaatiyum indhugo-maha-prasadam nu kaiyyila kudutha, paakuravan ivana kEnayannu dhaan nenappaan. Nauseating habit.

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Plum- Chandramukhi joke nyaabagathukku varudhu- Oruthanukku ezhundhukkavE mudiyalayaam...avanukku Test World cup kEkkudhaam

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 1st August 2011 07:53 PM [Full View]

dhoni's gone.....he offered no shot.....

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

vaazhga indian captain...
nanri plum.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

Is weed going to bat?

From: scorpio on 1st August 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Sachin-a oru fifty kooda adikka vida maatanunga pOla...andha pakkam yaarachum ninnu tholaichaa thaanE?

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Dhoniiiiiiiiiiiiiii

From: KV on 1st August 2011 07:55 PM [Full View]

Plummar sonnAr. Bresnar senjuttAr.
Kali muththeedthu.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 07:56 PM [Full View]

On the box please

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:00 PM [Full View]

empty box?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 08:00 PM [Full View]

Bresnan to Harbhajan, FOUR!!, what an anti-cimax, a gentle full toss, Bhajji drives through mid off easily for a four

Ada naaye, idha Dhoni-ku poda vendiyadhu dhaane da

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

66/6 number of the beast

From: Nerd on 1st August 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

dhoni's gone.....he offered no shot.....

Offer pannirunthaa mattum?

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

nalla velai ch-28 maadhiri bet match vekkalai...
friendly'nradhaala namma players'oda bat ellaam thappichadhu...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

"Broad to Harbhajan, FOUR!!, only 2 slips and a gully when the score is 62/6?! Bhajji looks to defend but gets a thick edge that goes wide of 2nd slip for four."
- ivan odambula odradhu ratham illa, lucku....

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

66/6 number of the beast

we were 111/2 in the first innings and the same was mentioned in the commentary.

From: KV on 1st August 2011 08:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

66/6 number of the beast

They must probably be singing 'bring your daughter to the slaughter'. Sichuvason saang.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:11 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar was given out wrongly in 3 occasions.
bat/pad catch of warne
mcgrath lbw - ball going over the top.
shoulder lbw.

but still mos sachin dhan.

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

SS
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63865.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63866.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63867.html

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:13 PM [Full View]

af, neenga arabic padichirukkeengalaa?

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:13 PM [Full View]

ehhhh??????????

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:16 PM [Full View]

avunga dhaan right to left ezhudhuvaanga...
andha maadhiri eppovumae question'a keela ezhudhi answer'a maela ezhudhureengalae... adhanaala kaetaen...

From: MADDY on 1st August 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

dhoni's gone.....he offered no shot.....:

to me that sums up the series so far

........

anne lakshmi rai kooda irukkumbodhu nalla aadunaaru

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:31 PM [Full View]

epdi ellaam yosikkiraangayya...
adhukku enna pannanumnu nenakkireenga?

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:35 PM [Full View]

Got used to it.

Originally Posted by SoftSword

avunga dhaan right to left ezhudhuvaanga...
andha maadhiri eppovumae question'a keela ezhudhi answer'a maela ezhudhureengalae... adhanaala kaetaen...

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:36 PM [Full View]

mm... i understand.

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Got used to it.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

I know, I am the only guy writing like this around here.

Originally Posted by SoftSword

mm... i understand.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 08:40 PM [Full View]

you maybe right...

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I know, I am the only guy writing like this around here.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 1st August 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

to me that sums up the series so far

........

yes...i agree...more than missing a full fit sehwag or zaheer...we are reeling because of dhoni...he's been tactically poor as a captain...is playing his worst cricket as a batsman....has been below par as a keeper as well......

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

Something to

for.

From: satissh_r on 1st August 2011 08:47 PM [Full View]

As much as I would like Sachin to get his hundredth 100, I wish it doesn't happen in this match. Next match jeykumpothu adikattum

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Weed has made it large..no chance of him being dropped.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

34.4
Swann to Harbhajan Singh, FOUR, four more! Spinners from both teams have taken some tap in this match, and Swann leaks four more as Harbhajan makes room and slashes a cut down to third man

34.3
Swann to Harbhajan Singh, SIX, 85.2 kph, hammered! Bhajji has absolutely nailed this one over long-on. It was pitched up and straight, and he committed himself totally

Bhajji

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

Sachin gone

From: Plum on 1st August 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

We will meet
Will meet
Meet

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

paadaikatravanukku solliyaachaa??
maalai vaanga maddy'a anuppunga...
sathya, sangoodharavan vandhuttaanaa?

avanunga paattukku edho maradhila konjam nidhaanama poattutu irundhaanunga...
indha pudungaali six ellaam adichu summaa irundhavanungala seendi vera vittuttaan...

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

harbhajan in the 40s

From: wizzy on 1st August 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

weed out

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

bhajji out

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

weed out

he smokes weed ??

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

largest margin of victory by runs:

Largest margin of victory (by runs)
WinnerMarginOppositionGroundMatch DateScorecard
England675 runsv Australia Brisbane30 Nov 1928Test # 176
Australia562 runsv England The Oval18 Aug 1934Test # 237
Australia530 runsv South Africa Melbourne17 Feb 1911Test # 114
Australia491 runsv Pakistan Perth16 Dec 2004Test # 1726
Sri Lanka465 runsv Bangladesh Chittagong3 Jan 2009Test # 1905
West Indies425 runsv England Manchester8 Jul 1976Test # 779
Australia409 runsv England Lord's24 Jun 1948Test # 300
West Indies408 runsv Australia Adelaide26 Jan 1980Test # 870
Australia384 runsv England Brisbane7 Nov 2002Test # 1623
Australia382 runsv England Adelaide11 Jan 1895Test # 44
Australia382 runsv West Indies Sydney14 Feb 1969Test # 646
Australia379 runsv West Indies Brisbane3 Nov 2005Test # 1769
Australia377 runsv England Sydney17 Dec 1920Test # 135
Australia365 runsv England Melbourne1 Jan 1937Test # 257
South Africa358 runsv New Zealand Johannesburg8 Nov 2007Test # 1846
South Africa356 runsv England Lord's21 Jul 1994Test # 1263
England354 runsv Pakistan Nottingham29 Jul 2010Test # 1967
Australia352 runsv West Indies Melbourne26 Dec 2000Test # 1525
South Africa351 runsv West Indies Centurion15 Jan 1999Test # 1441
Australia348 runsv Pakistan Melbourne1 Jan 1977Test # 790
West Indies343 runsv Australia Bridgetown19 Apr 1991Test # 1169
Australia342 runsv India Nagpur26 Oct 2004Test # 1718
Pakistan341 runsv India Karachi29 Jan 2006Test # 1783
England338 runsv Australia Adelaide13 Jan 1933Test # 222
Australia337 runsv India Melbourne26 Dec 2007Test # 1855
Australia329 runsv England Perth3 Feb 1995Test # 1287

so our worst was by 342 runs against aussies.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st August 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

paadaikatravanukku solliyaachaa??
maalai vaanga maddy'a anuppunga...
sathya, sangoodharavan vandhuttaanaa?

........

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

அவங்களுக்குத்தான் வாலு நீளமா? எங்களுக்கும் இருக்கு. விக்கட் விழாம இன்னைக்கு முழுசும் வெளையாடுவாணுங்க நம்ம பசங்க.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 09:41 PM [Full View]

Mukund, Raina and Yuvraj all out to short balls. So much for India's future talent.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

அவங்களுக்குத்தான் வாலு நீளமா? எங்களுக்கும் இருக்கு. விக்கட் விழாம இன்னைக்கு முழுசும் வெளையாடுவாணுங்க நம்ம பசங்க.

venki,
more than anderson, your inswinging yorkers are more lethal.

From: vanchi on 1st August 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

timid. enna achu namma pasangalukku.
avanunga summave aduvanunga. katti vera vuttachu.

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

there is one online petition going in fb to kick bhajji outta the team.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/184211454975572/

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Sri Lanka played much better than India in their tour. The body language of our players is pathetic.

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 09:51 PM [Full View]

"Not very sensible this, surely India should be digging in for the night and hoping for rain?" Indeed, Colin, the forecast for tomorrow is not very good at all.

From: vanchi on 1st August 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

intent to win irukkura mathiriye therla. 124/8 - 267/4
post mortem panniye noka vendaiyathuthan pola.
In spite of all the high fives, this mean spirited english team does not look dominating and it really and painfully sucks to lose to them.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 09:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Sri Lanka played much better than India in their tour. The body language of our players is pathetic.

Yes, I wanted to say that, but was not keen to post it ! SL 's Only nightmare was the 1st match. And they managed to draw the next two match with a toothless bowling attack ( No Murali/Vaas/Malinga) .

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

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From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 09:58 PM [Full View]

CricInfo

That is an immense performance from a very good side indeed.

வாழ்த்துக்கள் இங்கிலாந்! முன்னேறிக்கொண்டே இருங்கள்! சென்ற இடமெல்லாம் சிறப்பு உண்டாகட்டும்!

From: ajithfederer on 1st August 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

I am pretty sure that the useless Bhajji will play the 3rd and 4th test too.

From: littlemaster1982 on 1st August 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Worst test match played by our team in a long time. This is as bad as a nightmare

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

lets not fail to appreciate the efforts by dravid and praveen in this test...
some middle-fi to yuvi too, for his fight in the first innings.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 10:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

CricInfo

வாழ்த்துக்கள் இங்கிலாந்! முன்னேறிக்கொண்டே இருங்கள்! சென்ற இடமெல்லாம் சிறப்பு உண்டாகட்டும்!

இவர்களால் ஒரே இடத்தில மட்டும் தான் ஜெயிக்க முடியாது ! இலங்கையில் மட்டும் தான்

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 10:12 PM [Full View]

someone please give me a lighter.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st August 2011 10:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

someone please give me a lighter.

Innaiku thanni adika oru "Excuse" kidaichiruku , yensOy maa

From: raghavendran on 1st August 2011 10:52 PM [Full View]

felt for Dhoni when he was talking to the commentators..pavam..it has happened to him also..this isone hell of a bad series for him as a captain,batsman,keeper etc...
fall of wicketsla Gavaskar ovvoru wicketukkum good ball,good bouncer,it moved late...edho saaku sollikite irundhapla..enda nalla ball potta out ayiduvingala

..atleast oru 300 adichirkalam..India will be the next zimbabwe...indha naata ilaignargal kaila kudutha avvolodhan..PA.VIJAYe better

From: HonestRaj on 1st August 2011 10:59 PM [Full View]

i remembered this match..

paki's were 0/3 & then 39/6 .. includes first over hat trick by irfan pathan.. but still we lost by 341 runs

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/234783.html

From: venkkiram on 1st August 2011 11:02 PM [Full View]

பஜ்ஜியை அணியை விட்டு தூக்கணும் என ஏன் வெங்கட்ராகவன், பிரசன்னா, கும்ப்ளே போன்ற ஆட்கள் குரல் கொடுக்கக் கூடாது? எதிரான குரல்கள் அணியிலிருந்து சத்தியமா வருகிற மாதிரி தெரியல. வெளியிளிருந்து வந்தால் தான் உண்டு. சரியான நேரத்தில் குரல் கொடுக்கணும்!

From: SoftSword on 1st August 2011 11:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Innaiku thanni adika oru "Excuse" kidaichiruku , yensOy maa

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From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 07:31 AM [Full View]

England outplayed us. You could say that again.

But one has to look at our preparation for this tour, APPALLING! Forget the trinity, we couldn't cope losing Gambhir, Viru & Zak either.

Seeing how England bowled some terrific deliveries, we'd have to question our bowlers, tactics (ECB Agent Fletcher is a mole & uses a miniature camera in the shades that feeds directly to A.Flower), field placement et all. Even if we get Zak back, our variety still falls behind England's (Anderson, Tremless/Bresnan, Broad.) Wasim made a similar point. They have more variety. And this England side is proving to be the 'real deal'. Which I suppose incites more hatred from us Indians..

Stupid to kOstin & undermine the entire team, incl. & mainly Dhoni. He'd be first to accept that! One of these days he'll turn up on right side of the bed. It's easy to slight his achievements just about when he is in pathetic form. He has earned the license to fail for one series. IMHO.

From: Sourav on 2nd August 2011 10:24 AM [Full View]

intha bhajji injury-nu solli bowling podala, then how could he managed to score 46...

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 10:38 AM [Full View]

Backsidela pattasu koLuthinA automaticA perform paNNuvAn. He knew his place was in danger.

Now, for third test, select him, pay Nasser, Atherton etc to write a column rubbishing him; pay sunny, ravi to call for his drop from team. AutomaticA 10-fer eduppAn engaL punjab singam

From: Cinemarasigan on 2nd August 2011 10:43 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Backsidela pattasu koLuthinA automaticA perform paNNuvAn. He knew his place was in danger.

Now, for third test, select him, pay Nasser, Atherton etc to write a column rubbishing him; pay sunny, ravi to call for his drop from team. AutomaticA 10-fer eduppAn engaL punjab singam

yes, he can do it.. 400 wicket edutthuttOm-ngra medhappula irukkara maadhri irukku..

From: hamid on 2nd August 2011 10:46 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Backsidela pattasu koLuthinA automaticA perform paNNuvAn. He knew his place was in danger.

Now, for third test, select him, pay Nasser, Atherton etc to write a column rubbishing him; pay sunny, ravi to call for his drop from team. AutomaticA 10-fer eduppAn engaL punjab singam

Plum,
athavida naama ellarun sernthu kaasu collect panni aal set panni avan kaiya/kaala udaichidalaam. maybe a long term benefit..

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 11:12 AM [Full View]

oNyum puriyala Hamid. nejamAvE namma team-u 2-3 years flat pitcheslEyE Adi(except the odd match in South Africa) #1-ku vandhuruchO-nu oru doubt vara dhAn seyyudhu,
England squad is genuinely good and deep. avanga game-aiyum kuRai solla mudiyala - as Git Klove says, their genuine goodness is the cause for deep resentment.

Cricket follow paNNanumA, Harbyya vechu BP EthikaNumA, idhellAm thEvaiyAnnu thONudhu...

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 11:15 AM [Full View]

It's easy to slight his achievements just about when he is in pathetic form. He has earned the license to fail for one series. IMHO.

I dont think anyone here is slighting Dhoni at all. Everyone here as given him a long rope - which I think is deserved. He hasnt played enough First Class cricket in his lifetime - forget in the last 2-3 years, he hasnt played much first-class cricket at all in his career.

That doesnt mean we drop him for tests - given his importance as captain, we need to find a way to reduce his Limited Overs commitments, and give him more exposure to First Class. But with him leading N Seenu's franchise, and with Champions League coming, fat chance of that happening.

One thought - vekkatha vittu thambi Dinesh Karthik-ai epdiyAvadhu tinkering paNNi wicket keeper-batsmanA koNdu vandhuttA, Dhoni can focus on his batting alone. I think that might help...

From: ajaybaskar on 2nd August 2011 11:16 AM [Full View]

One of the worst series for Dhoni - the captain, Dhoni - the Keeper and Dhoni - the batsman. The non availability of Zaheer and the openers is no excuse and the team can do much better than 158. The main difference between the two sides so far is the performance of MSD and his wicket keeping counterpart, Prior. The pace department of India has done a reasonably good job so far by dismissing England thrice in four innings without the premier bowler and without any assistance from the spin department. Its cruel to blame them when we have not set the right fields. Conceding 54 boundaries off 540 deliveries was a crime and we've paid for it.

From: hamid on 2nd August 2011 11:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

oNyum puriyala Hamid. nejamAvE namma team-u 2-3 years flat pitcheslEyE Adi(except the odd match in South Africa) #1-ku vandhuruchO-nu oru doubt vara dhAn seyyudhu,
England squad is genuinely good and deep. avanga game-aiyum kuRai solla mudiyala - as Git Klove says, their genuine goodness is the cause for deep resentment.

Cricket follow paNNanumA, Harbyya vechu BP EthikaNumA, idhellAm thEvaiyAnnu thONudhu...

Plum,
It looks like that.. but as little I have seen the players clearly seem exhausted.. their mental strength is not in the right shape.. all becasue of IPL is my feeling.. so it is the lack of preparation more than anything else..

and Yes.. England are definitely a better side.. Better let us accept the fact,..The main difference is their batting depth.. they bat very very deep and that is really a aproblem which we cant match.. If we have the right preparation the fight could be very even and possibly result would have favoured us.. even otherwise it would have been of quality.. I dotn see any of the issues been corrected immediately and dont see any big leap in the last two tests despite Zak. sehwag and Gambhir's return.. maybe we will perform better and save the test.. thats an achievement in the current state.. If Bhajji could be dropped then it will help the Indian Bowling and Team a lot of good.. Ashwin or even Mishra could join. or we can go with 4 pace attack with Raina or Yuvi bowling a bit..

From: hamid on 2nd August 2011 11:31 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

One of the worst series for Dhoni - the captain, Dhoni - the Keeper and Dhoni - the batsman. The non availability of Zaheer and the openers is no excuse and the team can do much better than 158. The main difference between the two sides so far is the performance of MSD and his wicket keeping counterpart, Prior. The pace department of India has done a reasonably good job so far by dismissing England thrice in four innings without the premier bowler and without any assistance from the spin department. Its cruel to blame them when we have not set the right fields. Conceding 54 boundaries off 540 deliveries was a crime and we've paid for it.

Yes Ajay.. I intend not to blame him.. but, he badly needs a break. very badly.. even if he skips a match I wont bother and i9t wont hamper much in the current scenario too..
This is what I wanted before the second test.. Better Gambhir, Dhoni and sachin get rest and play the rest. anyway we will lose to this england team without full strength.. and come back forcefully at them with full strength on third test..

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 11:39 AM [Full View]

Sehwag playing is a waste of time. Sachin-E couldnt play well in first 3 innings due to lack of recent practice. How is Sehwag going to suddenly join in the 3rd test and immediately make an impact? idhukku iyengaru adikkaRa 3 run-E thEvalai.

Gambhir - very sad. This was his opportunity to complete the loop and stake the claim as the best of the next generation. Injury is a reason but he didnt look secure even before that. It is a bit unfair on Mukund that he will be judged on this tour while Gambhir/Viru will not be. Even in Australia, only the bounce is an issue. These are the conditions in which a test batsman from India has to succeed to stake claim to greatness.

Yuvi - a lucky 62 masks the fact that he continues to be instinctive, reflexive and unconvincing as ever in his play. ipdi thAn RainavOda 78-ai nambi he has improved against short ball apdinnOm. But it turns out he still has the problem - meaning during the 78 innings, he must have luckily escaped facing testing short pitched bowling.
So, the problem is we should not judge the players on the score they make but on how they get there.

I still maintain that we lost an Aussie tour because we were reluctant to drop Yuvraj because he had scored 169 in India(albeit under scoreboard pressure). It was quite obvious that he'll struggle in Aussie conditions given his game yet we gave him two chances, keeping out Viru and making Dravid open reluctantly.

In retrospect, maybe we should have got Saha to keep and played Dhoni at #6. If India were destined to score 288, Saha might have got the lucky reprieves that Yuvraj got anyway.

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 11:40 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I dont think anyone here is slighting Dhoni at all. Everyone here as given him a long rope - which I think is deserved. He hasnt played enough First Class cricket in his lifetime - forget in the last 2-3 years, he hasnt played much first-class cricket at all in his career.

That doesnt mean we drop him for tests - given his importance as captain, we need to find a way to reduce his Limited Overs commitments, and give him more exposure to First Class. But with him leading N Seenu's franchise, and with Champions League coming, fat chance of that happening.

One thought - vekkatha vittu thambi Dinesh Karthik-ai epdiyAvadhu tinkering paNNi wicket keeper-batsmanA koNdu vandhuttA, Dhoni can focus on his batting alone. I think that might help...

Our first class cricket isn't going to be THAT helpful to Dhoni, I feel. Perhaps he could get back his rhythm to play in Tests. But I truly hope he has a stint in some English county. It had helped most of our greats. It'd definitely help his cause.

The best in Ranji these days are Mukund, Rahane, Pujara, Vijay & Jaffer - Yet I'd think all of 'em would struggle against this English (or most leading counties) bowling lineup & esp. on that tracks. Mukund, Rahane & co. did reasonably well in Brisbane Emerging players tournament last year, but let's face it, the bowling in that tournament was of same quality as our first class cricket.

All said & done, I too think we're more of FTB's than we'd like to accept. Except for very few, others tend to struggle. Esp. when most didn't get a proper warmup in the conditions. England being at home & also coming out of SL series seem far more attuned to conditions.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 11:44 AM [Full View]

Yeah, I mentioned yesterday that a county stint would be good for Dhoni. But BCCI seems hell-bent on preventing Indian players from playing there.

You are right - England didnt consciously prepare for this tour - they just happened to have a good work out against Lanka which was merely the way FTP was scheduled. In retrospect, we might have been better served by touring in May-June instead of Lanka. England were undercooked then - most importantly, the men in form were Cook and Trott - who bat slowly - so the scoring rate would not have been as killing as it has been. Plus, Stuart Broad was crap.

It does seem like the Cricketing Gods are anglo-saxon - they were helping Australia all along, now after a brief resistance by them natives Indians, they have restored order by favouring the Englishmen

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 11:51 AM [Full View]

Like you, I hope Dhoni takes a break from IPL & take a break from 20-20, that'd automatically free him up from burnout & the regression to Limited overs mentality.

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 01:00 PM [Full View]

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-...s/20110802.htm

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From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 01:01 PM [Full View]

namma aaLudhaan indha vElaiya senjadhaa

illaatti is this any dirty game by English Media?

From: wizzy on 2nd August 2011 01:06 PM [Full View]

No amount of first class matches can improve Dhoni's technique against the swinging ball.You can't expect him to score runs in Eng with his hockey scoop shots..any test bowler can work him over and to make things worse he had to face the second new ball each time he got to bat. The main issue with our batting has been VVS moving to 3 which exposes the likes of Raina/Yuvi/Dhoni to the second new ball.
Ishant/PK have played close to 5 test matches in about 40 days and it is a miracle that they didn't pullup in this test and with the weed faking injury they have to do all the donkey work. Things gonna get worse for India in tests with the trinity in their last legs and with the FTP which has India playing 5/4 test matches against Eng/Oz every two years.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 01:40 PM [Full View]

Kartikeya Date points out how his article criticising DRS was titled "Pros and Cons of DRS" by Cricinfo

varalARu miga mukkiyam amaicharE!. cross posting this in Crook info thread here.
Maddy, in future, all posts related to cricinfo's crookedness should go there.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 02:03 PM [Full View]

vengala kiNNam for Dhoni fans

MS Dhoni: Alpha Male

When the golfer Bobby Jones was congratulated for calling a foul on himself in a tournament long ago, he replied, 'you might as well praise me for not robbing a bank'. The Corinthian Casuals football team would instruct their goalkeeper to vacate the six yard box if they conceded a penalty on the grounds that the other team had already been denied a goal by their foul. Mark Taylor declared on himself when he was level with Bradman's then-record Australian score of 334.

Sportsmanship in sport has always been coded by the times in which it happens. Jones admitted that he never played what he called 'friendly golf' even when he was playing with his friends. Players that don't cheat in football risk ridicule from their team-mates and fans [its 'professional' foul occupies a respectful category of its own]. Matthew Hayden remained qualm-less as he muscled past Taylor and the Don against the mighty Zimbabwe.

The point being that acceptability is a movable feast, the product of complex interpretations that change with the years. Bodyline almost started a war; the West Indies quicks who did the same thing are the subject of awe and rose-tinted documentaries. WG regarded the umpire's decision as optional. Andy Flower and Henry Olonga risked their lives to wear black armbands. Things are equivocal.

MS Dhoni's act was about more than just sportsmanship, although it was an act of sportsmanship and should be remembered as one. Yet it was also an act of leadership, and one that explained a lot about why India are successful. It was the decision of an alpha-male with a sense of perspective.

It was noticeable that, during the Sky coverage, that one of the commentators most convinced that Bell should be dismissed was Nasser Hussain. His England side would have done so, because they were not a great team and he was trying to install in them a notion that no-one should give an inch on the field. Shane Warne, a player far more accustomed to winning and the winner's mentality, said that he would have recalled Bell.

Ultimately, it's a decision based on confidence. Dhoni is confident in himself and his team. If he allowed himself to be consumed by the pressure of captaining India, he would implode. The same quality that allowed him to saunter to the crease in the World Cup final and win the game was the one that allowed him to withdraw his appeal. The truly secure man knows that his time will come again; he's not obsessed with small-picture detail.

England would do well not to get ahead of themselves. India have been asked to win a World Cup, stage the IPL, achieve number one status in Test cricket, play out a series of shimmering brilliance in South Africa, appear in front of empty stadiums in West Indies and then take on England with a main bowler and talismanic batsman missing.

Andrew Strauss said that he 'liked to think' he'd do the same as Dhoni. It will be a signal of his strength if he does.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 02:04 PM [Full View]

Note: Above article is from a Brit, not any Indian fan of Dhoni

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 02:14 PM [Full View]

Neither do I think our first class cricket will help MSD, if we're talking technique, that is. Like kid said, yes, county experience could do him some good. The stint should help in, at least, tweaking his dhobiguy technique to counter swing attack. Raina needs some talking to, some coach/mentor who can pat his back and say ‘look kid, you’ve got the skill. Playing the short ball ain’t no rocket science. Just don’t throw your wicket away like it’s some used napkin’. Most of the times this guy gets out to some blatantly silly shot. Not edges from tentative pushes or drives but plain scoops, dollies that any opposition field setup will merrily accept.
Bajji is in terrible shape. You can have 400 scalps in your kitty, but trying to ride on that while actually being in no form whatsoever, is a disgrace to the honour of playing for one’s nation. It’s this feller who actually needs to do some toiling in the first class circuit. Like Morphues’ advice to Neo in the Matrix, stop trying to attack and attack.
Or simply drop these three for the next game and see if that can make any difference to them or to the team’s fortune.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 02:19 PM [Full View]

Flethcer is supposed to be a great batting coach.
I think if he is given decent raw material like Pujara, Badri, Kohli who all have solid first class experience, he can mould them. Yuvi is a waste of space. He is too old to change now. And without change, he'll never be a test batsman. Raina is dangerously close to a similar situation. Every time these 2 manage a 50 is a setback for India just like a Bhajji 5 wicket haul is a long term death gong for India.

From: ajaybaskar on 2nd August 2011 02:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Note: Above article is from a Brit, not any Indian fan of Dhoni

இப்படி உசுப்பேத்தி உசுப்பேத்திதானே உடம்ப ரணகளம் ஆக்கி வச்சுருக்காங்க?

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 02:21 PM [Full View]

I think Dhoni needs to take rest. Maybe we should go with
Gambhir
Mukund
Dravid (please let him be #3, not opener)
Tendulkar
Laxman
Raina
Saha
Zaheer(if fit, else Ishant at #8)
Ishant
Mishra/Munaf
Praveen

Saha cant do any worse than Dhoni now. If Viru is fit, he can open in place of Mukund. He wont do any better than Mukund but his presence will be a boost for morale.

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 02:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Neither do I think our first class cricket will help MSD, if we're talking technique, that is. Like kid said, yes, county experience could do him some good. The stint should help in, at least, tweaking his dhobiguy technique to counter swing attack. Raina needs some talking to, some coach/mentor who can pat his back and say ‘look kid, you’ve got the skill. Playing the short ball ain’t no rocket science. Just don’t throw your wicket away like it’s some used napkin’. Most of the times this guy gets out to some blatantly silly shot. Not edges from tentative pushes or drives but plain scoops, dollies that any opposition field setup will merrily accept.

Well said.
He was unfortunate to be given out wrongly in one of the 4 50's he scored in last 5 tests.
He's good enough IMO.

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 02:35 PM [Full View]

some good discussion there.
our guys here write better and insightful than any cricinfo articles.

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 03:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I think Dhoni needs to take rest. Maybe we should go with
Gambhir
Mukund
Dravid (please let him be #3, not opener)
Tendulkar
Laxman
Raina
Saha
Zaheer(if fit, else Ishant at #8)
Ishant
Mishra/MunafPraveen

Saha cant do any worse than Dhoni now. If Viru is fit, he can open in place of Mukund. He wont do any better than Mukund but his presence will be a boost for morale.

I'm of the same opinion as well. Looking at the role the spinners have had to play in the first two tests (both, prick and annapparavayaar - whoa, wattey coinage Sathya!), it shouldn't be too much of a risk going in with four pacers. Even if the surface is going to offer some grip for spin, our parttimers should be sufficient.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 03:07 PM [Full View]

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of "dei avan epdi pOttAlum adikkaRAndA"...

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 03:12 PM [Full View]

Adhu seri. Ippodhaikku appidi thaan irukku. Adichchun'njaagala, kudichchun'njaagala, gudhichchun'njaagala na, enna dhaan panna mudiyum.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 03:18 PM [Full View]

Actually, I think England can lend us their second string attack - Tremlett/Bresnan, Finn, Onions, Panesar - and they'd still do better than our current attack

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 03:20 PM [Full View]

KV - Pricky Ranting was by me, annapparavai was by P_R IIRC

From: wizzy on 2nd August 2011 03:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Flethcer is supposed to be a great batting coach.
I think if he is given decent raw material like Pujara, Badri, Kohli who all have solid first class experience, he can mould them. Yuvi is a waste of space. He is too old to change now. And without change, he'll never be a test batsman. Raina is dangerously close to a similar situation. Every time these 2 manage a 50 is a setback for India just like a Bhajji 5 wicket haul is a long term death gong for India.

How did Badri made the list? He couldn't put bat to ball against Russel in the odies and Ishant made him look like a tailender in Duleep trophy. Badri is a nervous wreck at international level. Raina is going in circles..he held up well against Edwards bouncers in those spicy pitches by swaying out of the way. may be watching Yuvi bat against shot pitch bowling makes Raina look good in comparison.
I like the idea of resting Dhoni for the third test..but the trouble is who will captain the side..
Sehwag who is too cold to even play or Gambhir who is injured most of the time? Having 2 fit openers should solve the batting order mess and save India from the humilition of having both Raina/Yuvi in a test team.

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 03:41 PM [Full View]

Pujara in SA & Vijay/Kohli in Windies - hardly impressive right?

Perhaps as Dada says, 'bring back Wasim Jaffer'. :P

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 03:41 PM [Full View]

+1 on Badri-'thazhuvudhu nazhuvudhu hoi'-nathan. Even in IPL there have been several occasions where I've been baffled by his display of successfully dodging deliveries.
Vijay, for all his consistent inconsistency, automatically selects himself over Badri.

Er, can't we rest Dhoni, but still have him calling the shots from the dressing room, while having a benami captain on ground? Sattapadi kuttramo?

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Border-la namma paya Badri-ya oodurava vechuralAmnu pArthA ellOrum ushArA irukkAngappA

Che Pujara needs to be invested in. One of our problems is that unlike England, we dont differentiate between test cricket and LOI. IMO, this is the reason we dont have read made replacements for the big 3 now. We promoted the gutless, temparament-less Yuvi and Kaif over Badri(in his youth and prime) for the test team. Based on LOI success. It worked as it would on flat pitches. And it is backfiriing at every opportunity against good seam bowlers on good pitches.

Do we want to make the same mistake again? Please say bye to Yuvraj Bevan.

From: wizzy on 2nd August 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Pujara in SA & Vijay/Kohli in Windies - hardly impressive right?

Perhaps as Dada says, 'bring back Wasim Jaffer'. :P

Pujara never looked like a tailender against Steyn/Morkel..Eventhough he didn't score he held up well against pace..Vijay's test problem is IPL

Kohli will be a test bat and I expect him to tour OZ.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

Kohli is actually a good prospect. For 27 test matches, Steve Waugh didnt score much. Waugh was never good against short pitched bowling all through but he developed his own technique - Kohli is capable of that kind of mental strength. Way over Raina and Yuvi. Raina is an enthusiastic energiser bunny but has his limitations. Probably an upgraded version of Mohd Kaif, his senior from Sports Hostel, Lucknow.

Mukund can be groomed. But for that we need an attacking opener at the other end. And Mukund will only come in when Sehwag retires so net-net, Mukund is doomed.

I also like Manish Pandey but he seems to be the real victim of IPL, as opposed to Kohli, who everyone thought will be the IPL victim

From: Cinemarasigan on 2nd August 2011 03:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

+1 on Badri-'thazhuvudhu nazhuvudhu hoi'-nathan. Even in IPL there have been several occasions where I've been baffled by his display of successfully dodging deliveries.
Vijay, for all his consistent inconsistency, automatically selects himself over Badri.

Er, can't we rest Dhoni, but still have him calling the shots from the dressing room, while having a benami captain on ground? Sattapadi kuttramo?

Sattappadi ellAm kuttram onnum illai.. Dhoni may not be willing to accept your theory..

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan

Sattappadi ellAm kuttram onnum illai.. Dhoni may not be willing to accept your theory..

even if he accepts(which by itself is a desperate idea), you are rubbing the ego of the benami there...

From: ajaybaskar on 2nd August 2011 04:13 PM [Full View]

Sehwag and Gambhir to play in the 3rd test

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

A fit Zak also pls, atleast 2-1 looks decent and also no damage WRT rankings IIAR

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Pujara never looked like a tailender against Steyn/Morkel..Eventhough he didn't score he held up well against pace..Vijay's test problem is IPL

Kohli will be a test bat and I expect him to tour OZ.

He struggled against Tsotsobe & Harris, nevermind Steyn & Morkel. Got out to short ball in one of the three innings he played. Generally struggled against movement. Many top edges & inside edges.

I have a better bet of cracking 2001 SO than put into words how Kohli, Badri & Vijay struggled in Windies.

If these players provide any kind of competition for Raina, then he has nothing to fear IMO..

From: Cinemarasigan on 2nd August 2011 04:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

even if he accepts(which by itself is a desperate idea), you are rubbing the ego of the benami there...

yeah... I haven't thot abt it.. it would be better Dhoni rest himself for couple of more test matches..

From: wizzy on 2nd August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Border-la namma paya Badri-ya oodurava vechuralAmnu pArthA ellOrum ushArA irukkAngappA

Che Pujara needs to be invested in. One of our problems is that unlike England, we dont differentiate between test cricket and LOI. IMO, this is the reason we dont have read made replacements for the big 3 now. We promoted the gutless, temparament-less Yuvi and Kaif over Badri(in his youth and prime) for the test team. Based on LOI success. It worked as it would on flat pitches. And it is backfiriing at every opportunity against good seam bowlers on good pitches.

Do we want to make the same mistake again? Please say bye to Yuvraj Bevan.

Banking on LOI success came up with the transformation of Sehwag/Gambhir to tests
but both had a solid outing in domestic cricket.

The issue arises when you make your test debut after playing 100 odis and haven't done the hardyards in domestic cricket viz a viz yuvi/raina..all the flashy 4s in odis would result in a catch to
slip/gully in tests which Raina/Yuvi are finding it out

Also, never been a fan of yuvi in tests..having said that he should be given a chance to fail in tests so that he can't mourn about his lack of opportunity

we can only hope atleast two of Pujara/Virat/Rohit/Rahane to make up our batting in future when the trinity retire. When that happens hopefully we don't have the misfortune watching yuvi bat in tests.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

Test series pOnA pOgudhu - England is the better test team now. I fear we might be whipped in the ODIs too - how embarassing for the world Cup champions! Is Sachin playing the ODIs

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd August 2011 04:39 PM [Full View]

Folks,

Twisting the names of players is fine as long as it is not offensive. Pricky is not one of them and I'm getting reports about that. Please avoid the usage of such terms.

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

More than Sachin, let's hope we get Rahul back for ODI's.

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

Sick-y Ranting okvA?

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

Ponting kku inga aadharavaa? I quit..............

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan

yeah... I haven't thot abt it.. it would be better Dhoni rest himself for couple of more test matches..

Oru pEchukku sonnEnga. Idhellam serious suggestionaa eduthukkapdaadu.

Yesterday when my friend and I were discussing about this, he said most of the times these youngsters are under a lot of pressure – perform or get dropped – and this is impacting their confidence, making them buckle under the pressure. While I do kinda agree to this, it also becomes inevitable of sorts. Hell, even Dravid, Laxman and Kumble had to repeatedly ‘prove’ to retain their place in the test squad. I cant really think of a workaround. Spot the technically competent ones, persist with them for a period of time and see if that changes anything? Haven’t we done this with some players so far?

From: MADDY on 2nd August 2011 05:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Yes, I wanted to say that, but was not keen to post it ! SL 's Only nightmare was the 1st match. And they managed to draw the next two match with a toothless bowling attack ( No Murali/Vaas/Malinga) .

they were largely saved by rain in 3rd match too.......and getting shot out for 83 in 1st test match showed SL have lot to learn in test cricket......

but yes India, as of now, look much worse than SL last month.......

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 05:11 PM [Full View]

Maddy, if only India had toured last month....I mean this seriously, Cook and Trott were the form batsmen, generally they scored slowly and with them leaving the score at 323/1 and 334/2 types, KP Bell etc only had to accelerate and didnt shine that much. THat also left Lanka less overs to survive. Plus Rain.

Plus, Broad was crap. Bowling wasnt at full steam.
We might be leading 2-0 if we had toured 2 months back.

From: MADDY on 2nd August 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

இவர்களால் ஒரே இடத்தில மட்டும் தான் ஜெயிக்க முடியாது ! இலங்கையில் மட்டும் தான்

PS, i think u need to do a small bit of research before posting anything bravado abt SL cricket team or make nakkal on Indian/ English players....

here is the series in SL where SL lost to ENg 1-2 @home -- http://stats.cricbuzz.com/bilateral/...es/detail/1453 .....the second test match was "only" one of the 3 occasions in the test match history that a team that followed on went on to win the test match........this feat achieved by english against a SL team which had Murali, Vaas etc at their peak

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Sick-y Ranting okvA?

Tricky Panting/Ranting/Fonting/Washing/Cooking/Cleaning/Puking ??

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 05:19 PM [Full View]

Bedi calls for Harbhajan sacking

Adu mEikkiRa harbhajan 400 wickets eduththuttAnEnnu Bishan-ukku poRAmai

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

PS, i think u need to do a small bit of research before posting anything bravado abt SL cricket team or make nakkal on Indian/ English players....

i strongly condemn this.

Originally Posted by MADDY

here is the series in SL where SL lost to ENg 1-2 @home -- http://stats.cricbuzz.com/bilateral/...es/detail/1453 .....

thanks maddy, never knew that cricbuzz has the history and old stats as well.

Originally Posted by MADDY

the second test match was "only" one of the 3 occasions in the test match history that a team that followed on went on to win the test match........this feat achieved by english against a SL team which had Murali, Vaas etc at their peak

this is the second match right?
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-scor...th-March-/5962

there is no signs for follow on... or did i miss something?

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Can somebody post Bedi's performance in India and abroad?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd August 2011 05:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

PS, i think u need to do a small bit of research before posting anything bravado abt SL cricket team or make nakkal on Indian/ English players....

here is the series in SL where SL lost to ENg 1-2 @home -- http://stats.cricbuzz.com/bilateral/...es/detail/1453 .....the second test match was "only" one of the 3 occasions in the test match history that a team that followed on went on to win the test match........this feat achieved by english against a SL team which had Murali, Vaas etc at their peak

Hello

There was never any nakkals on any Indian players or the team (I know you have a personal opinion about me on this, but that is not true

) , yes I had my nakkals on English players I admit, (mostly because I get paranoid with English media !)

when I said about SL, what i meant was Most countries find it hard to beat SL "in their home soil", this I have read/heard from players/media alike, that is what I meant.

Lets stop here ..

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

Bedi
Country Span M Inn Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Avg E/R S/R 5W/I 10W/M
in Australia 1968-1978 7 14 2391 963 35 5/55 10/194 27.51 2.41 68.3 3 1
in England 1967-1979 12 18 3148 1333 35 6/226 6/111 38.08 2.54 89.9 1 0
in India 1966-1979 30 54 10391 3287 137 7/98 9/70 23.99 1.89 75.8 8 0
in New Zealand 1968-1976 6 10 1537 493 20 6/127 8/148 24.65 1.92 76.8 1 0
in Pakistan 1978-1978 3 6 828 449 6 3/124 3/164 74.83 3.25 138 0 0
in West Indies 1971-1976 9 16 3069 1112 33 5/82 8/126 33.69 2.17 93 1 0

Harby
in Australia 2003-2008 4 7 189.0 19 659 9 3/101 4/200 73.22 3.48 126.0 0 0
in Bangladesh 2004-2010 3 6 92.3 19 288 6 2/19 3/98 48.00 3.11 92.5 0 0
in England 2002-2002 3 5 135.4 23 410 12 5/115 5/139 34.16 3.02 67.8 1 0
in India 1998-2010 52 97 2724.3 547 7336 258 8/84 15/217 28.43 2.69 63.3 18 4
in New Zealand 1998-2009 6 11 213.4 40 508 21 6/63 7/102 24.19 2.37 61.0 1 0
in Pakistan 2006-2006 2 3 81.0 8 355 0 - - - 4.38 - 0 0
in South Africa 2001-2011 4 7 191.2 21 612 18 7/120 7/195 34.00 3.19 63.7 1 0
in Sri Lanka 1999-2010 9 14 377.5 59 1173 25 6/102 10/153 46.92 3.10 90.6 1 1
in West Indies 2002-2011 8 15 294.5 52 856 32 5/13 8/180 26.75 2.90 55.2 3 0
in Zimbabwe 1998-2005 5 10 196.3 41 525 19 4/59 5/96 27.63 2.67 62.0 0 0

From: Cinemarasigan on 2nd August 2011 05:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Oru pEchukku sonnEnga. Idhellam serious suggestionaa eduthukkapdaadu.

Yesterday when my friend and I were discussing about this, he said most of the times these youngsters are under a lot of pressure – perform or get dropped – and this is impacting their confidence, making them buckle under the pressure. While I do kinda agree to this, it also becomes inevitable of sorts. Hell, even Dravid, Laxman and Kumble had to repeatedly ‘prove’ to retain their place in the test squad. I cant really think of a workaround. Spot the technically competent ones, persist with them for a period of time and see if that changes anything? Haven’t we done this with some players so far?

More than other players, I think Dhoni is under pressure... He is losing his concentration often.. Better let him take some good break and come back stronger..

From: Plum on 2nd August 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

sathya,There was more to Bedi than his figures - when I say figures, I dont mean his Australian wife/ex-wife/ex-girlfriend; there, you already know there was more to him than mere numbers - he is entitled to talk about guile and deception.

From: kid-glove on 2nd August 2011 05:48 PM [Full View]

Flu,
So you also agree with his views on Murali..

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

Honey Trap

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd August 2011 05:57 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Flu,
So you also agree with his views on Murali..

aNnan is a "Big time" Murali fan !

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 06:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

aNnan is a "Big time" Murali fan !

yes, he supports srilankan cricket team as much as you do.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd August 2011 06:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

yes, he supports srilankan cricket team as much as you do.

Ungala purinjathu, avalavu thaan!

Damn this cricket, no posts from me here !

From: MADDY on 2nd August 2011 06:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

yes, he supports srilankan cricket team as much as you do.

very nicely put

From: MADDY on 2nd August 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Hello

There was never any nakkals on any Indian players or the team (I know you have a personal opinion about me on this, but that is not true

) , yes I had my nakkals on English players I admit, (mostly because I get paranoid with English media !)

when I said about SL, what i meant was Most countries find it hard to beat SL "in their home soil", this I have read/heard from players/media alike, that is what I meant.

Lets stop here ..

PS, i have seen u making fun of Dravid etc u cant just deny the facts........even we make fun of bhajji etc, why deny it

wat u said, was like England can never win in SL, which is not right and i gave u the stats.......u made fun of Swann, anderson too before without knowing the fact they are in top5 bowlers of ICC rankings.........im just requesting u to read player/team profiles before throwing in the towel, u know what i mean

From: raghavendran on 2nd August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

I think England will win the series 4-0...actually we are not the best side in the world,we have won only in NZ and WI thats it..we have always done well at home and our recent home wins were nothing new ....indha rankings ellam dubakooru...still we cant play short pitch bowling...my nightmare is India touring England or Australia after the end of the big 3...may be we should quit cricket after they retire otherwise we will get humiliated by world cricket

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd August 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Ponting kku inga aadharavaa? I quit..............

Ricky Ponting is an example. The concern is not about the players, but the words used to denote them.

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

I think England will win the series 4-0...actually we are not the best side in the world,we have won only in NZ and WI thats it..we have always done well at home and our recent home wins were nothing new ....indha rankings ellam dubakooru...still we cant play short pitch bowling...my nightmare is India touring England or Australia after the end of the big 3...may be we should quit cricket after they retire otherwise we will get humiliated by world cricket

So who is the no.1? England? What did England achieve in subcontinent? Can they win a match in India? So they are home bullies too, right?

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

When Eng or Aus cannot play in sub-continent, it is dust bowl. When Asian Teams cannot consistently win in Eng or Aus, they lack skill eh?
Plum, one more artefact for our repository.

From: KV on 2nd August 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

I think England will win the series 4-0...actually we are not the best side in the world,we have won only in NZ and WI thats it..we have always done well at home and our recent home wins were nothing new ....indha rankings ellam dubakooru...still we cant play short pitch bowling...my nightmare is India touring England or Australia after the end of the big 3...may be we should quit cricket after they retire otherwise we will get humiliated by world cricket

Well, it isn't all that doom and gloomy, me thinks. There's no dearth of talent actually, but it's in the right grooming of talent where the issue lies. Too much of LOI is eating away time and fitness and the dedication requied for tests. But some right channeling of this potential will help improve things. A faint ray of hope still remains. We're falling, indeed, but rock bottom is still a while away.

From: ajaybaskar on 2nd August 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

Australia can play well in sub continent and thats why they are rated above the englishmen.

From: sathya_1979 on 2nd August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

Yeah, they won in 2004. But, whenever they lose they bring up this dust-bowl thingy. adhaan sonnEn

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

i seriously dont understand the rating system where, a second ranked team jumps 7 points over the 1st ranked team when they win the first rank team in their home conditions. i agree there should be some good appraisal for beating the top ranked team badly, but it doesn justify awarding so many points. otoh, the top ranked team, who is playing in a foreign ground, losing the series to the 2nd ranked team(not a 5th or 6th ranked team) losing out so many points is justifiable?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 2nd August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

So who is the no.1? England? What did England achieve in subcontinent? Can they win a match in India? So they are home bullies too, right?

Good point....Thats why the whole number one ranking is slightly flawed.It is just a string of consistent performances of which india have been the most consistent in the past two years. So you might have the english facing the same situation as we are if they tour india. Cant see the likes of anderson and co who rely mostly on seaming conditions to bowl as effectively as they do in england. Would be an interesting series. With regards to this series i still haven't lost hope. And with comparisons to the 1999 aus tour debacle. Sorry i dont see this side succumbing to such an embarrassing situation. Still two tests left in the series and i cant fathom as to why some people have thrown in the towel so early. We have been very poor in the last two matches but i dont see why india cant bounce back.....

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 2nd August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

So who is the no.1? England? What did England achieve in subcontinent? Can they win a match in India? So they are home bullies too, right?

Good point....Thats why the whole number one ranking is slightly flawed.It is just a string of consistent performances of which india have been the most consistent in the past two years. So you might have the english facing the same situation as we are if they tour india. Cant see the likes of anderson and co who rely mostly on seaming conditions to bowl as effectively as they do in england. Would be an interesting series. With regards to this series i still haven't lost hope. And with comparisons to the 1999 aus tour debacle. Sorry i dont see this side succumbing to such an embarrassing situation. Still two tests left in the series and i cant fathom as to why some people have thrown in the towel. We have been very poor in the last two matches but i dont see why india cant bounce back.....

From: SoftSword on 2nd August 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

Sss.......

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd August 2011 07:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Yeah, they won in 2004. But, whenever they lose they bring up this dust-bowl thingy. adhaan sonnEn

We shouldn't have lost 2004 series at all, but the jerks at the top played petty politics and sacrificed our record in progress. I still get angry when I think about that series.

From: wizzy on 2nd August 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

Good point....Thats why the whole number one ranking is slightly flawed.It is just a string of consistent performances of which india have been the most consistent in the past two years. So you might have the english facing the same situation as we are if they tour india. Cant see the likes of anderson and co who rely mostly on seaming conditions to bowl as effectively as they do in england. Would be an interesting series. With regards to this series i still haven't lost hope. And with comparisons to the 1999 aus tour debacle. Sorry i dont see this side succumbing to such an embarrassing situation. Still two tests left in the series and i cant fathom as to why some people have thrown in the towel so early. We have been very poor in the last two matches but i dont see why india cant bounce back.....

I have seen most of 90s mediocrity, this low pales anything which the Indian team churned out then..This gloom is due to the unfortunate habit of winning the Indian team had cultivated from John Wright times.
This series is as good as over and I don't think India can bounce back..We haven't managed to cross 300 even once this series and you can pick 20 wickets with 3 bowlers.

From: raghavendran on 2nd August 2011 08:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

So who is the no.1? England? What did England achieve in subcontinent? Can they win a match in India? So they are home bullies too, right?

i forgot to add that...who is no.1?..England cant win..but no one called them the best rite?..the best needs to win everywhere like the aussies..and if we are the best we should win in all conditions rite?all our overseas achievements(draws) were looked as great achievements because of our past..but we have to win..thats not happening..we can agree that there is no clear cut no.1 now..but definitely cant accept that we are no.1...

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd August 2011 08:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

i forgot to add that...who is no.1?..England cant win..but no one called them the best rite?..

Guess you didn't read any of what English Media has been saying.

the best needs to win everywhere like the aussies..and if we are the best we should win in all conditions rite?all our overseas achievements(draws) were looked as great achievements because of our past..but we have to win..thats not happening..we can agree that there is no clear cut no.1 now..but definitely cant accept that we are no.1...

I'm sorry but you have got it wrong. No.1 means whoever is the best team in a given period. Doesn't necessarily be like Aussies of 90s/00s or WI of 80s. They were the best team then and also were dominant. We are not as much as dominant, but that doesn't mean we are not no.1.

From: raghavendran on 2nd August 2011 09:28 PM [Full View]

so what makes you tell that India or any other team as no.1 in this period?

From: MADDY on 2nd August 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

so what makes you tell that India or any other team as no.1 in this period?

ICC rankings, which has some algorithim and logic to calculate points scored and accumulated by each team rather than airy fairy discussions abt past present rite?

From: ajithfederer on 2nd August 2011 10:52 PM [Full View]

Now you please tell me which other team is no1 if not India>?

Originally Posted by raghavendran

so what makes you tell that India or any other team as no.1 in this period?

From: ajithfederer on 2nd August 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Guys Rankings are not flawed. Whichever team does perform consistently over a period of time get to hold the no 1 ranking. That's it. The same English team couldn't win in WI 2 years ago and let us see how they perform next year in SL and in India.

From: ajithfederer on 2nd August 2011 11:06 PM [Full View]

Even the aussies needed rain to save their ass(es) in India to a second sting team which didn't have Tendulkar for 2 tests cos of Injury.

Plus A full strength aussie team lost the ashes in 2005 and yet to win in England since 2003 June which is after the advent of the rankings. So we can't call em as no 1 too?

Originally Posted by raghavendran

i forgot to add that...who is no.1?..England cant win..but no one called them the best rite?..the best needs to win everywhere like the aussies..and if we are the best we should win in all conditions rite?all our overseas achievements(draws) were looked as great achievements because of our past..but we have to win..thats not happening..we can agree that there is no clear cut no.1 now..but definitely cant accept that we are no.1...

From: ajithfederer on 2nd August 2011 11:42 PM [Full View]

Time to bring Rohit sharma, Kohli and Pujara in full swing to the Test team. They are our future. Out of the three I have seen less of Pujara but i think Kohli and Rohit have the mettle for the test team. Kohli/rohit can play big knocks. They can occupy the crease for a long time and surely handle attacks. Rohit is the best in technique we have.

I am sorry to say but both Raina and Yuvraj will have to go to the Michael Bevan way. A great limited overs player who faired poorly in Tests. Both their dismissals during the 2nd Innings looked awul on screen. Now Yuvi has gone to a specialist for an injury in his left hand due to the short pitched barrage. Even Mukund has to go away for Shewag and Gambhir. We need settled opening pair so as to avoid destroying dravid as an opener.

This English team is very good but not great. So far their batsmen haven't been tested to very good bowling which we don't have. Last Tour Kumble and RP Singh chipped in with Zaheer. This year the work load is too much on Ishanth and PK. We can get them out twice easily if we get back zk.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 3rd August 2011 12:16 AM [Full View]

I feel we miss kumble a lot...especially in dismissing the tail.....would have proved to be very useful there....harbhajan has just become useless....guess they need to make the decision they made in perth in 2007....just drop bhajji and go in with four pacers

From: ajithfederer on 3rd August 2011 12:27 AM [Full View]

When the ball is dug in short,Raina does not look like a test player to me.-WARNE.

From: venkkiram on 3rd August 2011 01:56 AM [Full View]

5 Batsmen + 1 Wicket Keeper (Batsman) + 5 Bowlers - An idle set for Test, IMO.

அவங்க அவங்க வேலைய சரியாய் செய்வது மட்டுமில்லாமல், அதையும் தாண்டி அணிக்கு உதவும் வகையில் ஆல்-ரவுண்டர் ஆற்றல் இருக்குமானால் (பந்து வீச்சாளர்கள் கணிசமான அளவு ரன்கள் குவிப்பது - பேட்ஸ்மேன்கள் பந்து வீசி கொஞ்சம் விக்கட்டுகள் எடுப்பது), அதுவே வெற்றிக்கான சூத்திரம். இது 80's மேற்கிந்திய தீவுகள், 90's ஆஸ்திரேலியா மற்றும் தற்போதைய இங்கிலாந்து அணிகளுக்கு பொருந்தி வருகிறது.

From: kid-glove on 3rd August 2011 02:06 AM [Full View]

Let Rohit debut in Test first. He's as much (if not more) percentage player than Raina. Gives countless chances for opposition even in Limited overs. And he gets out softly than Raina, albeit playing good-looking shots in the process. It's good to see him turn a corner in Windies. But does he have the mentality? I'd love to be proven wrong on this one if he's going to be the next-Laxman. Hopefully not the next Basit Ali.

Kohli/Pujara haven't been unimpressive than Raina in overseas conditions (of course, one has 3 the other has played just 2, so we need more sample size. Until then no use undermining Raina's position.)

Warne praises Cook (& promises 'he will come good' - Cook performed well against Oz, so he should be good!), undermines Raina. Praises Morgan as well. Raina had performed better, for a team in crisis, than these two players. Of course, he made a fair point on Raina's limitation but he wouldn't have the balls to say that about English players on SKY.

Raina has scored 4 50's in last 5 test matches he had played. Even the LBW to Broad was when he was in 63. Not like Yuvi going for close shaves & dropped catches. I'd say that's a significant difference. How is that he had fared poorly? He already has a decent average. Already has a test century.

And everytime he does well against short delivery, it seems to go off the scanner. Many past greats carried that weakness all along. None more so than the pouncing Bengal tiger himself!

From: jinju on 3rd August 2011 07:48 AM [Full View]

with due respect to raina's talent and performances, it's an advantage being linked to the daughter of an MP whose party president is Mr. Sharad Pawar, u see...

From: venkkiram on 3rd August 2011 09:26 AM [Full View]

Ganguly rips into India's build-up

"I'm too fed up hearing this "time to recover" [excuse] - don't play for India then, you know this is what it is, you have to come back and play a Test series. And it was an important Test series, it was a marquee Test series to decide who was the No. 1 Test side in the world and you cannot say that. Okay you've lost and you haven't played well, the matter ends there, just accept that and move on."

From: ajithfederer on 3rd August 2011 10:15 AM [Full View]

4 -0 for sure

Harbhajan declared fit

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/525722.html

Yuvraj might now have an injury.

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 10:16 AM [Full View]

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Originally Posted by Plum

Bedi
Country Span M Inn Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Avg E/R S/R 5W/I 10W/M
in Australia 1968-1978 7 14 2391 963 35 5/55 10/194 27.51 2.41 68.3 3 1
in England 1967-1979 12 18 3148 1333 35 6/226 6/111 38.08 2.54 89.9 1 0
in India 1966-1979 30 54 10391 3287 137 7/98 9/70 23.99 1.89 75.8 8 0
in New Zealand 1968-1976 6 10 1537 493 20 6/127 8/148 24.65 1.92 76.8 1 0
in Pakistan 1978-1978 3 6 828 449 6 3/124 3/164 74.83 3.25 138 0 0
in West Indies 1971-1976 9 16 3069 1112 33 5/82 8/126 33.69 2.17 93 1 0

Harby
in Australia 2003-2008 4 7 189.0 19 659 9 3/101 4/200 73.22 3.48 126.0 0 0
in Bangladesh 2004-2010 3 6 92.3 19 288 6 2/19 3/98 48.00 3.11 92.5 0 0
in England 2002-2002 3 5 135.4 23 410 12 5/115 5/139 34.16 3.02 67.8 1 0
in India 1998-2010 52 97 2724.3 547 7336 258 8/84 15/217 28.43 2.69 63.3 18 4
in New Zealand 1998-2009 6 11 213.4 40 508 21 6/63 7/102 24.19 2.37 61.0 1 0
in Pakistan 2006-2006 2 3 81.0 8 355 0 - - - 4.38 - 0 0
in South Africa 2001-2011 4 7 191.2 21 612 18 7/120 7/195 34.00 3.19 63.7 1 0
in Sri Lanka 1999-2010 9 14 377.5 59 1173 25 6/102 10/153 46.92 3.10 90.6 1 1
in West Indies 2002-2011 8 15 294.5 52 856 32 5/13 8/180 26.75 2.90 55.2 3 0
in Zimbabwe 1998-2005 5 10 196.3 41 525 19 4/59 5/96 27.63 2.67 62.0 0 0

Just realised - adding up the numbers, the 4th test in this series will be Harby's 100th!
Oru anticipation illai, celebration illai. Idhuve laxman dravid mAdhiri less important playerskellaam evlo celebration

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 10:36 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Let Rohit debut in Test first. He's as much (if not more) percentage player than Raina. Gives countless chances for opposition even in Limited overs. And he gets out softly than Raina, albeit playing good-looking shots in the process. It's good to see him turn a corner in Windies. But does he have the mentality? I'd love to be proven wrong on this one if he's going to be the next-Laxman. Hopefully not the next Basit Ali.

Kohli/Pujara haven't been unimpressive than Raina in overseas conditions (of course, one has 3 the other has played just 2, so we need more sample size. Until then no use undermining Raina's position.)

Warne praises Cook (& promises 'he will come good' - Cook performed well against Oz, so he should be good!), undermines Raina. Praises Morgan as well. Raina had performed better, for a team in crisis, than these two players. Of course, he made a fair point on Raina's limitation but he wouldn't have the balls to say that about English players on SKY.

Raina has scored 4 50's in last 5 test matches he had played. Even the LBW to Broad was when he was in 63. Not like Yuvi going for close shaves & dropped catches. I'd say that's a significant difference. How is that he had fared poorly? He already has a decent average. Already has a test century.

And everytime he does well against short delivery, it seems to go off the scanner. Many past greats carried that weakness all along. None more so than the pouncing Bengal tiger himself!

Raina is an enigma, he plays some sublime coverdrives but at times he struggles to get inline of the ball and gets out losing his poise. Raina's open stance deters him from getting on top of the bounce when playing pull/hook. Only way he can counter this is to sway out of way or be prepared to take body blows to protect his wicket. Its appaling to see modern day Indian batsman shying way from taking blows on the ribcage.

Ganguly like Raina had an open stance with the same short ball issue but when Dizzy/Lee left their marks on his ribcage he decided to swallow his pride and opt for chest gaurd which significantly alterted his gameplay against short balls.

Raina isn't the only batsman to have this issue..waugh sr survived some hostile pace bowling by
getting inline and taking the blows.. Also, the quality of attack Raina is facing pales in comparison to anything Waugh faced.. Raina has no excuses for his failures.

From: hamid on 3rd August 2011 10:51 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Harbhajan declared fit

worse possible news for TI indeed.. Plum, appave sonnen.. kettathaane?

Any info on Zak's return?

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd August 2011 11:04 AM [Full View]

Wizzy,

Although Steve Waugh wasnt very comfortable against the short balls initially, he discovered a technique of his own to survive. Hope Raina and some other indian players do the same.

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 11:23 AM [Full View]

That technique was to wear the ball on his body and show no visible pain. Tough man, was Tugga?

Ganguly managed to do something similar(though not exactly as eye-catching and spectacularly macho as Waugh) on his return to test cricket after Chappell induced wilderness.

Raina, if he does that, will be an asset, as about 80% of test cricket is played on benign pitches, where he will be an asset anyway. If he can develop an appetite, and survival technique in England(swing/seam, pace, short ball), Australia & SA(pace, short ball), he will be the perfect middle order batsman for us (probably at #5). To me, this looks an easier prospect than Rohit Sharma shedding his ego/thenAvattu and becoming a long-innings player in test cricket. Partly because the moment he sheds the ego/thenAvattu, he ceases to be Rohit Sharma, the elegant batsman.

I'd be happy if Raina can put in the hours of practice against Short ball, and not get flustered by wearing the ball on his body. But this is where our IPL and T20 culture prevents him from making these adjustments. He is a superstar of IPL- and BCCI will not let him take time away to improve his test match game. Same with Dhoni. Dhoni wouldnt mind taking body blows already - he is macho already, but he is yet to develop a survival technique against swing/seam, which for a man with his mind-power, is not impossible.

Pujara/Kohli have it in them to be all-court players, but let's see if they fulfil the promise. I am disappointed that a first-class titan like Pujara, who is hardly suited for the IPL bang-bang, is out of test match reckoning because of an injury got during IPL.

Someone in Star Cricket commented during the England second innings that if you combine Sreesanth's raw talent, and Praveen's nous and self-awareness, you'll get the perfect medium fast bowler for India. It seems the same with batting - combine Raina's cheeky enthusiasm, appetite for big matches, and Pujara's technique - and you have the perfect middle order batsman.

From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2011 11:57 AM [Full View]

Very well written and nice analysis Plum

From: kid-glove on 3rd August 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

he(Dhoni) is yet to develop a survival technique against swing/seam, which for a man with his mind-power, is not impossible.

This isn't true, mate. He has a good technique. He showed that in 2007 series brilliantly. In fact, Dhoni, Jaffer, KDK, Kumble were as important as Sachin & Ganguly for us to win then..

From: kid-glove on 3rd August 2011 01:47 PM [Full View]

Raina has learned a lot from Kirsten, Fleming, Hussey among others. I'm sure he's working on it. My problem is when people forget the times when he had survived successfully. The moment he fails, the whole brouhaha erupts. Like Ganguly, he's allowed to fail once every 3-4 times. Sometimes he will fail twice in a row, but there's no question he'd come back stronger next.

If anyone had to know his mental conditioning & temperament, they have to look at that straight drive off Lee in WC, with the whole commentary box rooting for Yusuf. Not many takers for this kashmiri pundit settled in UP eh? Either you'd have to be Yuvi with friends like Jadeja pulling strings for you in media or you have to be from Mumbai, which automatically gets maximum support from Mumbai Media Bandwagon..

From: hamid on 3rd August 2011 01:49 PM [Full View]

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...-third-Test-b-

Off-spinner Harbhajan Singh has been ruled out of the 3rd Test to be played at Edgbaston, Birmingham, starting on the 10th after he sustained a grade 1 tear on his stomach.

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 01:58 PM [Full View]

Hamid, I am not happy.
1) we'll lose anyway.
2) The replacement (mishra) will fail, leading to Harby claiming that he is the best Indian spinner anyway
3) This will actually extend Harby's career with India - because, he has protected his average and strike rate with this move. Infact, I suspect that wsa the reason for claiming stomach pull in the Nottingham test, too. He always quotes his average etc when people question his place. So, I am sure he had one eye, if not both, on the impact on his average suppose he agreed to bowl more in Nottingham. Clever boy, is Bhajji.

From: hamid on 3rd August 2011 02:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Hamid, I am not happy.
1) we'll lose anyway.
2) The replacement (mishra) will fail, leading to Harby claiming that he is the best Indian spinner anyway
3) This will actually extend Harby's career with India - because, he has protected his average and strike rate with this move. Infact, I suspect that wsa the reason for claiming stomach pull in the Nottingham test, too. He always quotes his average etc when people question his place. So, I am sure he had one eye, if not both, on the impact on his average suppose he agreed to bowl more in Nottingham. Clever boy, is Bhajji.

ah.. Plum.. you are either a pessimistic guy or relying on chatterjees.. I do definitely feel mishra will definitely do better than bhajji

But, will Dhoni or selectors take it and dump bhajji.. I am not sure.. hmm.. I am sure they won't

..I do agree that Bhajji cant be ruled out of Indian cricket for the next few years at least, for reasons only known to him and his captains

thats a problem.. but at least there will be cry from media and he might be forced to be dropped.. dreaming? eh?

From: kid-glove on 3rd August 2011 02:07 PM [Full View]

IF the track has nothing for spinners again, Dhoni might include Munaf in the team & rely on Raina/Yuvaraj as spin options?

From: hamid on 3rd August 2011 02:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

IF the track has nothing for spinners again, Dhoni might include Munaf in the team & rely on Raina/Yuvaraj as spin options?

will not be a bad idea actually.. may be the over rate will suffer a bit.. but Dhoni can manage his bowlers better..
first Zak shd be available.. otherwise it is difficult..

From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2011 02:24 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Raina has learned a lot from Kirsten, Fleming, Hussey among others. I'm sure he's working on it. My problem is when people forget the times when he had survived successfully. The moment he fails, the whole brouhaha erupts. Like Ganguly, he's allowed to fail once every 3-4 times. Sometimes he will fail twice in a row, but there's no question he'd come back stronger next.

give him some time to settle.. he knows that he had to survive against short balls.. he is a quick learner and hope he will be at his best very soon..

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 02:42 PM [Full View]

Look, I dont dislike Raina but isnt it obvious to you that he will never get the opporutnity to work on his weaknesses? It is the CLT20 baby, after this series, and then the grind all over again.

From: raajarasigan on 3rd August 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

agree Plum, he has to play county cricket to improve his technique.. but don't forget that he had already shown a glimpse of his technique against short balls in few matches.. in WI & also in Lords second innings.. he needs to be consistent in tackling that... the way he got out in Trent Bridge given a mirage that he was the worst batsman against those deliveries which is NOT true..

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 02:54 PM [Full View]

And Hamid, regarding Harbhajan, I am dead serious.
Why did he play the Windies tour? After playing continuously in World Cup and IPL? Because of two reasons
1) Relatively easier to perform well against Windies.
2) A replacement might perform well against Windies if Harby rested. He knew this very well.

He could have skipped the England tour completely but our man is too smart for such obvious tactics. Also, he probably didnt expect the tour to go as bad as this. adhukku dhan quiteA middle of second testlEyE escape. And then sitting out the third test. The beauty here is his timing, and his perfect judgement. He KNOWS that the replacement spinner WILL NOT perform adequately in this test.

For this reason alone, he deserves to continue in the Indian team. He is actually living my dream career.

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 03:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

agree Plum, he has to play county cricket to improve his technique.. but don't forget that he had already shown a glimpse of his technique against short balls in few matches.. in WI & also in Lords second innings.. he needs to be consistent in tackling that... the way he got out in Trent Bridge given a mirage that he was the worst batsman against those deliveries which is NOT true..

manam eruthal margabandhu

you don't need to play county cricket to improve the technique..Dravid hit some zillions of wet tennis balls at 15 yards before the OZ tour of 2004 where he ended with 600+ runs..Iam yet to see a young Indian batman with Dravidsque devotion to the game and preparation for an overseas tour.

From: MADDY on 3rd August 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

Raina is a must in the test team IMO - one of the few young guys with reasonable attitude infact better than even Gambhir's.........he already played 2 good knocks in england and westindies, he will improve if given time........

Rohit, Pujara, Kohli, Badri should all be juggled around and fitted when reqd.......

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Kaif had the best attitude of his generation. Raina is not Kaif(all attitude, little talent) but he hasnt exactly shone against the short ball. The problem these days is that all countries have pitches and conditions and sometimes, time of the day during which it is not difficult to bat if you have application. Raina has lots of application, enthusiasm and willingness - therefore, yes, great guy to have in the team.
But at his best, he can rise up to Ganguly levels. Whereas Kohli, Pujara(and er...Badri, if you guys are not reading closely

) have the potential to be Dravid, Laxman etc.

And by saying that, I have doomed atleast the career of Pujara but how long can I not express my real views?

From: MADDY on 3rd August 2011 04:05 PM [Full View]

and they have to start grooming them when the big 3 are still there.......infact we can make ambatti rayudu, manish pandey and other promising blokes to train and keep them under the big 3 shades........

also, even if the big 3 retire, we can take them on all overseas tours and have them give valuable inputs until the team settles

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 04:05 PM [Full View]

kutti thalai raina'ku jae!!
put him in proper field positions in test matches, you can assure him to help taking a wicket in every innings.

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Kaif had the best attitude of his generation. Raina is not Kaif(all attitude, little talent) but he hasnt exactly shone against the short ball. The problem these days is that all countries have pitches and conditions and sometimes, time of the day during which it is not difficult to bat if you have application. Raina has lots of application, enthusiasm and willingness - therefore, yes, great guy to have in the team.
But at his best, he can rise up to Ganguly levels. Whereas Kohli, Pujara(and er...Badri, if you guys are not reading closely

) have the potential to be Dravid, Laxman etc.

And by saying that, I have doomed atleast the career of Pujara but how long can I not express my real views?

no probs plum..
oru naayagan..... udhayam aagiraan....

From: MADDY on 3rd August 2011 04:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Kaif had the best attitude of his generation. Raina is not Kaif(all attitude, little talent) but he hasnt exactly shone against the short ball. The problem these days is that all countries have pitches and conditions and sometimes, time of the day during which it is not difficult to bat if you have application. Raina has lots of application, enthusiasm and willingness - therefore, yes, great guy to have in the team.
But at his best, he can rise up to Ganguly levels. Whereas Kohli, Pujara(and er...Badri, if you guys are not reading closely

) have the potential to be Dravid, Laxman etc.

And by saying that, I have doomed atleast the career of Pujara but how long can I not express my real views?

ofcourse, a GangulyV2 is more than welcome in this team esp when big3 leave

after sehwag and gambhir's opening partnership the next 3 should be decided who would build the fort like the present big3 did.......adhukku dhaan kohli, pujara, badri sonnen

even rayudu, manish pandey should be looked at......Raina will be the ideal no.6 and Dhoni at no.7 makes a decent batting line up

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 04:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

and they have to start grooming them when the big 3 are still there.......infact we can make ambatti rayudu, manish pandey and other promising blokes to train and keep them under the big 3 shades........

also, even if the big 3 retire, we can take them on all overseas tours and have them give valuable inputs until the team settles

Rayudu hasn't been scoring runs in domestic cricket..the emering players tourney is his big ticket to show his skills..Rahane has just notched up a 100 in a match against RSA so he should be getting call for the home series agaisnt windies.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/emerging...ch/516199.html
Manish pandey is a cowlasher masquerading as a batsman in similiar class to uttappam..

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 04:17 PM [Full View]

My ideal India lineup has Dhoni playing at #6 as batsman-captain. I dont know who is the wicket keeper at #7 but I confess I still have a nappAsai that thambi Dinesh will somehow be that #7

From: MADDY on 3rd August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Manish pandey is a cowlasher masquerading as a batsman in similiar class to uttappam..

ellam IPL oda effect nga.....i felt he had a good technique when i first saw him

Plum, i dunno why u think Karthik is a better keeper than Dhoni.....ex-players, rule books may say he is better than Dhoni but there have far too many sodaffals from him in real time scenario.......i cant think of anyone other than Dhoni for WK slot now

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

My ideal India lineup has Dhoni playing at #6 as batsman-captain. I dont know who is the wicket keeper at #7 but I confess I still have a nappAsai that thambi Dinesh will somehow be that #7

the ideal india lineup is a thing of the past.

From: kid-glove on 3rd August 2011 04:33 PM [Full View]

Kohli/Pujara/Rohit to replace big 3, tough ask but I'd be the happiest person if that happens. Any young Indian talent being able to prove me wrong is fine by me!

I have always maintained Rahane, Mukund have a future in the long run (could also add Menaria for Limited overs). Vijay, Badri - LOL, pOdhum Cheeka oda mariyadhai pOnadhu. Thought they'd take their chances in WIndies, that's it, no more avamanam for Tamil Nadu. Jaffer, Dinesh Karthik - the bus had passed.

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

BCCI should use IPL teams to poach some players from SA and give them the option of playing for India..SA seems have an endless supply of test quality players..lets have a regulation of 2 years in domestic cricket before they represent India so that the transition will be easier. It will be a win-win situation for all people involved. Mallaya will be more than happy to have KP in his list of Indian domestic players for RCB. Imagine disgruntled players like Bollinger,Gayle playing for India..Nass,Botham would mourn to death.

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 04:47 PM [Full View]

Maddy, believe it or not, Dinesh was the better keeper when they both emerged. He failed to focus on his keeping adeuqately because he was trying to make it as an opener, a T20 late order specialist, then a ODI #7, then a ODI #3 accumulator. If he had taken a line early in his career, like Laxman did w.r.t a middle order place, that he will be only "wicket-keeper batsman for India or dont select me", I believe he would be the nailed on #2 to Dhoni by now. By extension, when Dhoni needs rest like now, we'd have a strong replacement - like Macgill for Warne. Not quite Warne but more than an adequate replacement.

This is a case of mismanagement, destiny and lack of self-confidence from Karthik. Nor proper guidance.

Suppose Laxman had been desparate, and continued to try to be opener, would we have a great middle-order batsman today?
He took a stand - select me as a middle order batsman, or dont select me. Karthik, IMO, was good enough to take a similar stand. Again, not good enough to replace Dhoni but to be an able replacement when required.

It is not unusual - think Alec Stewart vs Jack Russell, Moin Khan vs Rashid Latif. All of the were world class keepers, and while Stewart and Moin were generally first-choices, the latter too were more than adequate replacements when required, and it only helped their teams that they were available as replacement

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

BCCI should use IPL teams to poach some players from SA and give them the option of playing for India..SA seems have an endless supply of test quality players..lets have a regulation of 2 years in domestic cricket before they represent India so that the transition will be easier. It will be a win-win situation for all people involved. Mallaya will be more than happy to have KP in his list of Indian domestic players for RCB. Imagine disgruntled players like Bollinger,Gayle playing for India..Nass,Botham would mourn to death.

- great idea.

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

He took a stand - select me as a middle order batsman, or dont select me.

idhellaam kaekka nallaa irukku... aana nambura maadhiri illa...
i dont think he had the command to say that. it happened by itself, thats all.
for all his talent and contributions, dravid'ae 'naan idha mattum dhaan seiven'nu command panna mudilayaam......

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

allOv, he actually said that. Dravid oru puLLapoochi. Harby alladhu Kohli vandhu command paNNinA kooda apdiyE sonnadhai seivAr.

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 05:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

allOv, he actually said that.

apdiyaa? i don remember reading any.

From: MADDY on 3rd August 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

yea, when we can have italian prime minister-incharge why not cricketers from south africa, westindies, australia

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 05:53 PM [Full View]

Softie, it is quite a famous tale in Indian cricketing circles that Laxman asked to be considered only as a middle order batsman. I remember reading about it before he hit that 281.
I guess Prem Panicker has covered that a lot and so have Dileep Premachandran and Mukul Kesavan.

From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

Rohit actually struggled against short pitch stuff in t-20 WC..dunno if he has imrpoved...but i feel that India will become like the aussies after their best players left..

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 06:00 PM [Full View]

Harby, Yuvi out; Kohli, Ojha in

kizhinjidhu - in my desparation, I was reverse jinxing on behalf of Harby & Yuvi(it certainly worked in the World Cup). adhuvum vINA pOchu! inimE kandha kandha kandha kandha sAmy dhAn india nelamai

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 06:03 PM [Full View]

We were entitled to a recall by Dhoni, says Flower

adhu dhan veLLakAran. Dhoni oNyum generousa paNNidalayAm. ivangaLukku kodukka vENdiyadhu dhAn koduththArAm.

ipdi irukkaNum civilized people-nA

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 06:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Softie, it is quite a famous tale in Indian cricketing circles that Laxman asked to be considered only as a middle order batsman. I remember reading about it before he hit that 281.
I guess Prem Panicker has covered that a lot and so have Dileep Premachandran and Mukul Kesavan.

thanks, KB updated.

From: raghavendran on 3rd August 2011 06:07 PM [Full View]

...England mela gaandu yerikite pogudhu...

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 06:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Harby, Yuvi out; Kohli, Ojha in

kizhinjidhu - in my desparation, I was reverse jinxing on behalf of Harby & Yuvi(it certainly worked in the World Cup). adhuvum vINA pOchu! inimE kandha kandha kandha kandha sAmy dhAn india nelamai

namma ashu kuttiya kootti vaangayya...
first over poda veppom.

From: sathya_1979 on 3rd August 2011 06:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

namma ashu kuttiya kootti vaangayya...
first over poda veppom.

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

6 ball thAnguvAna ashu kutti?

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

6 ball thAnguvAna ashu kutti?

t20 powerplay'laye dhilla variety balls poduvaan, yaen test'la poda mudiyaadhu?
field restriction'um kedayaadhu...
first class'la avan successfulla poattadhillayaa?

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

Ashwin will help India level the series-sani

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 3rd August 2011 07:18 PM [Full View]

hope they go in with 4 pacers in the next match.....anaalum thirunthamattanga... oru spinner eppidyavathu kondu vanthu saavadipaanga......

From: SoftSword on 3rd August 2011 07:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Ashwin will help India level the series-sani

ennaya sonneenga?

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 07:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ennaya sonneenga?

Gavaskar had earlier said Ashwin would win India the worldcup sarcastically

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 3rd August 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Gavaskar had earlier said Ashwin would win India the worldcup sarcastically

athaan athu nirubanam aavakudathunnu ashwina adavevekaliye dhoni......ellaam oru plan oda thaan seivaaru

From: Plum on 3rd August 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

Softie, nAn sonnadhu ashukutty 6 ball pOdaRadhukuLLa injure AgiduvAnE aththai chonnEn. Avanai solli enna aga povudhu - Zaheerum adhe nelamaikku vanhduttapla

From: wizzy on 3rd August 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

wow...yuvarasu/weed are 'injured' and to miss the test series but will be available for odi series..Strategic Injury jai ho..
weed did the same during the SL test series so whenever he avgs more than 100 with ball he has an abdominal strain.
yuvarasu had a 'chest infection' which again detered him from playing odi series under Raina. The chest infection was later found to be cold

Cheeka needs to grow a pair 'rest' these players until injury heals completely.

From: Sourav on 3rd August 2011 11:22 PM [Full View]

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From: ajithfederer on 4th August 2011 12:04 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/525741.html

@#$$% andy flower, Tendulkar is not an idiot to walk off before the tea is called.

From: ajithfederer on 4th August 2011 12:07 AM [Full View]

Dont you just love English cricket!

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The thinnest guy on the team is called Broad; the ugliest- Swann; the guy that fields behind is called Prior; the guy whose father is John is called Peterson; the guy whose father is Luke is called Anderson; the slowest fielder is Trott and then they got one right.. the dumbest guy is called Bell.

From: Plum on 4th August 2011 03:31 PM [Full View]

Kartikeya Date again - clinical demolition of Flower's hypocrisy
Why Andrew Flower Would Not Have Done What Dhoni Did In The Ian Bell Case

This question has continued to bug me. Why did England think it was right to ask Dhoni to reconsider an appeal which was fairly clearly within the rules? Why did Andy Flower and Andrew Strauss think that it was the right thing to do? Or were they going to do it simply because Bell was batting so well? Sportsmanship involves doing the right thing irrespective of the cost to one's interests, purely because it is the right thing to do. Surely, the sporting thing to do in the case of the Bell episode would have been for India to withdraw their appeal, then, for Bell to be declared retired Out by England for his tea time score. For if Bell admitted being "naive" or "stupid", what price did he pay for it?

From: Plum on 4th August 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

Increasingly, Michael Vaughan's reading of the situation seemed to be the most plausible one. Bell and England "handled the situation" brilliantly to protect their own interests. Sportsmanship had nothing to do with it. Flower's nonsense about an "international incident" was only the last step in that performance.

3 years ago, Grant Elliot set off on an iffy run in an ODI against England at the Oval. Due to various factors, such as where the ball went, where Sidebottom's normal follow through ended up, and what line the non-striker was running, Elliot collided with the bowler. England claimed the run out (the fielder was Ian Bell), and Elliot was given Out. As per the law, it was judged by the Umpires that the wicket had been put down fairly. This is not just my interpretation, this is what the law actually says. Law 38 says that the batsman shall be out if "his wicket is fairly put down by the action of a fielder". Paul Collingwood, then England's captain, declined to withdraw his appeal, and the decision stood. Later that day, Collingwood regretted this decision, but explained it away as something that happened in the heat of the moment.

14 months later, England were playing Sri Lanka at the Wanderers in Johannesburg in an ICC Champions Trophy game. This time, the Sri Lankan all-rounder Angelo Mathews collided with the bowler Graham Onions after he had turned for a second run. Unlike the episode at the Oval, where Sidebottom was trying to race to the ball when the collision occurred, in this case, Onions was nowhere near the ball. England claimed the ensuing run out, but Andrew Strauss withdrew his appeal.

In both instances, the collision was an accident. There was no suggestion that either bowler or batsman deliberately tried to get in each others way. As such, it would have been perfectly legitimate for the fielding side to have claimed the run out in both cases, because the wicket was put down "fairly". The fielding side did not cheat, because the bowler did not deliberately get in the batsman's way. Further, it can also be argued that since it is the batsman who is doing to running, he should watch where he is going. Typically, batsmen have a fairly good feel for where the bowler is when they are rushing for a quick run. But sometimes, accidents can happen. However, this is one of those instances in which claiming the dismissal did not "feel right".

Andrew Flower disagreed with Strauss's decision to withdraw the appeal against Angelo Mathews (My thanks to Siddharth Monga of Cricinfo for reminding me of this example). "I would definitely have not recalled him," he said, "But Strauss is a good man and I trust him completely. He made his decision and I back him on that, I just wouldn't have done it myself. I would have sent the batsman on his way. He ran into the bowler. Simple deal."

From: Plum on 4th August 2011 03:32 PM [Full View]

So Flower's attitude to these things is clear. If the batsman makes a mistake, then he pays the price. Bell admitted that he made a mistake. So why didn't Flower want Bell to pay a price? Does Flower support India's decision to recall Bell? Surely, the whole point of sportsmanship, is that you do the right thing, irrespective of the consequences for your team. If Dhoni's decision was an example of sportsmanship, was Flower and Strauss's decision to ask Bell to resume his innings not unsporting? And it is not as though Flower disagreed with the decision to ask Dhoni to withdraw the appeal.

To be fair though, England have been quite honest about their attitude - an attitude which involves doing whatever marginal thing it takes to win. Strauss stopped short of definitely agreeing with Dhoni's decision. His comment was as non-committal as he could get away with. As opposed the clear comments from Vaughan and Hussein (for example), that they would have appealed exactly as Dhoni did, Strauss hemmed and hawed and came out with "I would like to think so", when asked if he would also have withdrawn the appeal in similar circumstances.

England's role in the Ian Bell episode can only be described as a thoroughly unsporting, professional and sophisticated. They protected their interests single mindedly, the "right thing" be damned. The "Spirit of Cricket" such as it is, is little more than an empty rhetorical trope, just as their standard ultra-conditional mea culpas are empty rhetorical tropes.

So how should India deal with England in the rest of this series? I hope they will stick to playing by their own standards and not sink to England's. I also hope they can match England's accuracy with the ball.

From: Plum on 4th August 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

This is nothing new - this is what England are, this is what they were, they will always be. Once a Brit, always a Brit.
For a man who made his name speaking against a tyrant, Flower shows such moral flexibility. Makes me wonder if he would have spoken against Mugabe if Mugabe had been of a different colour persecuting the blacks.

From: wizzy on 4th August 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

Dhoni didn't change his decision when he was asked 3 times by umpires in the field so the final decision to call him back was a PR exercise by the Indian team to save their back from English crowd/press..say if England was chasing a target and Bell was the last recognised batsman would Dhoni do the same thing? Since the match was lost when the incident took place the Indian tean opted to play by the spirit of cricket.

From: SoftSword on 4th August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

dhoni agreed to it becos, two guys went knocking his door begging for a charity... and he would have pitied inside and given a life to bell. ipdi vandhu kaekkurangalae polachu poraanganu dhaan...

From: ajaybaskar on 4th August 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

Sachin to Dhoni: அட.. போகட்டும் விடுப்பா.. மாடிப்படி எல்லாம் ஏறி வந்துருக்காங்கப்பா..

From: Plum on 4th August 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

Ajay -

- namma team kEvalamA field-la perform paNNudhunu sollunga othukkarEn. maththa badi, Dhoni pOttadhu pichchai. picchaiyum vAngittu pEsudhu pArunga andha Andypatti vAyi...

From: MADDY on 4th August 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

i think the question of why Dhoni recalled Bell was put eloquently by Dravid:

A small incident in the West Indies left a little bit of bitter taste in our stomachs,” Dravid said, referring to the stumping of Laxman off Shivnarine Chanderpaul on India’s recent tour to the Caribbean. “So if the tables were turned, I don’t think our guys would have felt nice about it. If it was Laxman or Sachin (Tendulkar) there, I don't think our guys would have felt nice about it. And that was one of the things discussed when we first came in -- what if it was one of our guys? Would we have liked it? And the general feeling was no,”

this is typical thinking of a karma-fearing Indian citizen and i see 100% honesty in it.....so the talks of Dhoni trying to fake spirit of cricket just becos it was a losing game and he was forced by BCCI etc are not acceptable

From: VinodKumar's on 4th August 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Sourav

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Naa second match ku team maathavae illa

maranthae poitaen.

From: ajithfederer on 4th August 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

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From: littlemaster1982 on 4th August 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

so the talks of Dhoni trying to fake spirit of cricket just becos it was a losing game and he was forced by BCCI etc are not acceptable

I've heard people saying that Dhoni played a PR stunt but I don't think so. But I'm mad at Dhoni and Sachin (if he had really suggested recalling Bell) for what happened. We were royally cheated by English team

From: wizzy on 4th August 2011 09:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i think the question of why Dhoni recalled Bell was put eloquently by Dravid:

this is typical thinking of a karma-fearing Indian citizen and i see 100% honesty in it.....so the talks of Dhoni trying to fake spirit of cricket just becos it was a losing game and he was forced by BCCI etc are not acceptable

says Dravid who appealed against Inzi for obstructing the throw from Raina and Inzi was given out..where was the typical thinking of karma-fearing Indian citizen then? don't go by appearance Dravid is an hard nut and more aggressive than any Indian captain

had the decision been taken on the field before coming onto the dressing room then your karma view stands..this decision was nothing but a compromise to score some brownie points with the English crowd/media.
Do you believe Dhoni would have let Bell to continue had England were chasing with Bell being the last recognised batsman?

From: ajithfederer on 4th August 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Obstructing the field is a clear category of making a batsman out. Inzi blatantly blocked the ball when thrown at the stumps. You are a wuss if you don't appeal and I would like to slap a captain if he didn't appeal for that.

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 10:46 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Kevin Pietersen, tweeting,

I see my mate @yuvsingh09 is out the tests.. No more chicken & mushrooms or steak & ales for me now. Pity! They tasted good in Notts! ha ha
web â€¢ 04/08/2011 09:49

remba kEvalamA pEsuRAnga boss...

From: raajarasigan on 5th August 2011 11:08 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

so the talks of Dhoni trying to fake spirit of cricket just becos it was a losing game and he was forced by BCCI etc are not acceptable

losing game'a? Bell'a recall pannalainna match kandippa turn aagi irukkum... எனக்கு நம்பிக்கை இருஞ்சு...

From: rajkumarc on 5th August 2011 11:14 AM [Full View]

Hope all this trash talk by the English & their media rubs it in like the Jelly bean incident in the previous series and seriously wish our guys give it back to the English at Edgbaston.

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 01:14 PM [Full View]

Why the Trent Bridge result was invalid

Similarly, Bell was given out and he had to leave the field whether tea interval was declared or not. So whatever happens after Bell is given out is inconsequential as he is concerned. This makes the withdrawal of the appeal by MS Dhoni during the tea interval illegal. Now is there another way Bell could have continued to bat? If the umpire decided that he is not out by himself. The law 27.9 says:
"An umpire may alter his decision provided that such alteration is made promptly. This apart, an umpire’s decision, once made, is final."
But since the decision was not at all reversed promptly, the decision stays final.
Now here is the interesting part of the story, which is not hard to conclude from what I have written. Since a batsman who is technically out has come out and continued to play renders the following events against the laws of cricket. To use a cliché, it‟s not cricket. According to the
laws of cricket, England‟s score in the second innings should stay at 254/4. Since they never formally declared the innings, India‟s second innings has no legitimacy either and this test should go down in the history as a drawn test match.

indha idea nallA irukkE?
Seenu sir - unga power-ai use paNNi result-ai mAthidunga. If we cannot do this, what use having the power, and facing accusations of misusing power every day?

Let's show them what exactly happens when we misuse our power

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 01:27 PM [Full View]

Zimbabwe kooda romba varusham kazhichu aadra test match-la super-aa batting paNraanga

Indha ulagam innum namma pasanga mEla nambikkai vekkudhu

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

India Vs Northants Practice match- Sehwag out for 8

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

India Vs Northants Practice match- Sehwag out for 8

practise match'ku adhu podhum vidunga.. indha match'la abinav century adichaalum, viru n gauti'than opening pair in the 3rd test

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

Ganesh- Second innings kooda kidayaadhu, 2 day match. Konjamaavadhu match practice vEnaamaa Sehwag-kku?

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

adikka pORa araiyaNA runnukku practice irundhA enna, irukkAtti enna? No, seriously, Abhinav is a better choice than Viru for the 3rd test. Nottingham conditions sari illai. Abhinav will definitely perform better than what Viru can given the relative match practice of both

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Ganesh- Second innings kooda kidayaadhu, 2 day match. Konjamaavadhu match practice vEnaamaa Sehwag-kku?

he hits once in 3 innings.. now one is gone.. next 2 innings'la one innings hit aagumnu namba vendiyadhudhaan (vera vazhi illa)

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Sachin and Dravid are not playing but Mukund and Saha are part of the team. Edhukku? 3rd test playing XI-kku practice kudukkaama enna logic idhu?

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

adikka pORa araiyaNA runnukku practice irundhA enna, irukkAtti enna? No, seriously, Abhinav is a better choice than Viru for the 3rd test. Nottingham conditions sari illai. Abhinav will definitely perform better than what Viru can given the relative match practice of both

abhinav nottingham'la perform pannattum.. let Viru perform in Brimingham

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Sachin and Dravid are not playing but Mukund and Saha are part of the team. Edhukku? 3rd test playing XI-kku practice kudukkaama enna logic idhu?

Dravid has hit back to back centuries.. so he is in full touch and hence would have preferred to sit out.. Sachin could be still recovering from the ailment?

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 04:49 PM [Full View]

If you're a fan of 'morale boosting by mere presence', then Sehwag should be in place of Mukund. Also Sehwag is a weird case, you'd never know when it'd turn it on! Even without match practice..

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 04:51 PM [Full View]

Yes, but uLmanasu solludhu we'll get the idiot sehwag in this series. Aus 08 appO Genius Sehwag apdinnu uL manasu solchu (adhAmpA bird solchunu Sify.com-la solluvANgaLE)

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 04:51 PM [Full View]

Sachin-kku enna ailment? Viral feverdhaan second match-layE seriyaa pOchE?

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 04:52 PM [Full View]

Sachinkku IPL-losis, T20-philia

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Sachin-kku enna ailment? Viral feverdhaan second match-layE seriyaa pOchE?

ellaa ailment'um sollitu irukka mudiyumaa

naamalaa assume pannikkanum

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 04:56 PM [Full View]

Gambhir gone too. Have to say both Viru & Kambi have both been underwhelming. Useless Mukund, ippo nalla velayaduran. Get out you bugger, you are of no use for next test!!

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

Ganesh-

Practice match-layum 300 dhaanda mudiyaadhu pOla irukkE

maanam pOgudhu

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Practice match-layum 300 dhaanda mudiyaadhu pOla irukkE

maanam pOgudhu

naamathan declare panniduvome.. eppadi namadhu raajathandhiram

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 06:25 PM [Full View]

That's the tragedy git - ippO dhairyamA Mukund-ai edukkaNum. edukka mAttAnga.
I remember S Ramesh doing very well in Australia tour match but Chopra being selected for the test match. sOpLAngi 35-40 run dhAn adichAn test matchla but he was hailed thanks to Viru effect. Tour matchla century adicha Ramesh andha 35-40 run adichirukka vAippu irukku illaiyA?

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Mukund Fifty

evLo venumO adichukkappa, adutha Intl. test match vaaippu eppavO theriyaadhu.

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

That's the tragedy git - ippO dhairyamA Mukund-ai edukkaNum. edukka mAttAnga.
I remember S Ramesh doing very well in Australia tour match but Chopra being selected for the test match. sOpLAngi 35-40 run dhAn adichAn test matchla but he was hailed thanks to Viru effect. Tour matchla century adicha Ramesh andha 35-40 run adichirukka vAippu irukku illaiyA?

I know. But much of it is his own fault. You can't fail in 3 innings on a row. If he had scored a decent 40-50 in 2nd test, he could have made an argument of having improved with each innings.

From: wizzy on 5th August 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

Mukund can always count on Gambhir being injured before the day of the test match

After playing 2 away series on some spicy wickets should help him to mount big scores on our Indian roads.

He just needs a home series to seal his place as the reserve opener ahead of his pal style vijay but Gambhir/Sehwag would never miss a chance to bat on subcontinental conditions.

Looking at the news video of Raina getting troubled by tennis ball throwdowns from Sachin/Dhoni..Mukund can still hope to replace Raina to play out the second newball.

From: scorpio on 5th August 2011 07:44 PM [Full View]

Mukund 100

From: mgb on 5th August 2011 07:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Mukund Fifty

evLo venumO adichukkappa, adutha Intl. test match vaaippu eppavO theriyaadhu.

neenga kanda kanava nanavakki centuryum adichuttaar

From: Plum on 5th August 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

Git, suppose Viru and Jai Gambhir fail 4 innings - highly likely now - in the remaining 2 tests, how do we take it?
Just a blip in form?
Injury recovery?
Fialure to grab the only chance in years to prove in difficult conditions?

And suppose Mukund is disposed without a chance in home conditions - highly likely - how fair is that?

Is a test place a function of luck of the order of tours after you debut?

Yes, Viru and Gauti have performed in various conditions - but then not in England. If Mukund is discarded now - highly likely - then he'd be discarded for failing in conditions that thoe 2 have failed too. Is that fair?

From: SoftSword on 5th August 2011 08:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Git, suppose Viru and Jai Gambhir fail 4 innings - highly likely now - in the remaining 2 tests, how do we take it?
Just a blip in form?
Injury recovery?
Fialure to grab the only chance in years to prove in difficult conditions?

And suppose Mukund is disposed without a chance in home conditions - highly likely - how fair is that?

Is a test place a function of luck of the order of tours after you debut?

Yes, Viru and Gauti have performed in various conditions - but then not in England. If Mukund is discarded now - highly likely - then he'd be discarded for failing in conditions that thoe 2 have failed too. Is that fair?

not just test place plum...
to keep hold of any place/seat, the progress of events and timing is very important.
there could be exceptions, but majority works this way.

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Flu,
gambhir and viru have earned the right to fail, Mukund OTOH is fighting for a place. So he should have made the most out of the given chances. Agreed on the disparity in evaluation of players without taking conditions into account.

From: VinodKumar's on 5th August 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Dhoni out - 2 runs

practice match la yavathu konja neram ninnu veladalam la ...

From: SoftSword on 5th August 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

dontorry dhoni'ku oru big score irukku aduttha rendu test matchla.

From: VinodKumar's on 5th August 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

gambhir captain pola

From: wizzy on 5th August 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

ICC shoud show some mercy on Dhoni and end his misery by banning him for a test.

From: SoftSword on 5th August 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

ICC shoud show some mercy on Dhoni and end his misery by banning him for a test.

request accepted.
will consider.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 5th August 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Flu,
gambhir and viru have earned the right to fail, Mukund OTOH is fighting for a place. So he should have made the most out of the given chances.

Completely agree with you. The way Mukund got out in the first innings in Nottingham is a prime example of wasting a good opportunity.

From: ajithfederer on 5th August 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Clean sweep against India is possible: Swann

England spinner Graeme Swann feels a 4-0 whitewash is possible in the Test series against World No.1 India.

"I'd like to think that it's possible to win 4-0. A lot of things have to go in our favour, but if they do, it'll be a nice thing to aim for. We're the only team who can win it 4-0," Swann was quoted as saying by the Daily Telegraph.

"The way we've played in the first two games, they've not been perfect performances and we've still won them very well. If we can iron out those areas and do everything else right, we're going to be a very difficult team to beat," he said.

Asked about his unimpressive form in the series, Swann said: "It's easy to make the excuse that I was hit on the hand. But I just had one of those days. I got out of bed the wrong side that morning. Rahul Dravid has played me very well this series. But I don't think they needed to play me particularly well at Trent Bridge, I bowled so badly."

With turning tracks expected at Edgbaston and the Oval, Swann declared himself fully fit after an X-ray on his left hand.

"I'm looking forward to Edgbaston, because it did turn a little bit last year," Swann said. "Hopefully it will spin, because then you turn up to the ground in the morning knowing you're going to play a more active role. Turning up knowing you are a bit-part player does not always fit well with someone who likes to be the centre of attention."

Recalling farcical run out of Ian Bell, who was later recalled by the Indian team, Swann said: "It was a very strange atmosphere. Belly had taken off his pads. He thought he was out. Then rumours came upstairs that they were talking about whether to ask him back in. So people were saying 'put your pads on', and someone else was saying 'no, don't bother'. It was bizarre, really."

"But what happened in the end was the right thing. India could have upheld the appeal, but it would have put a very bitter taste on the series. We don't want it descending into the sort of scenes we had at the end of last year. We really didn't like the Pakistan team by the end of the series, and they didn't like us. But so far this year, the atmosphere between the two teams has been exceptional," he said.

From: wizzy on 5th August 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

Swannathran seems to be on a interview spree..On the tour match with only 100 overs per side India should declare and give the bowlers especially Zak some work out.

From: ajithfederer on 5th August 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Why does no one get injured before IPL, asks Michael Holding

West Indies pace legend Michael Holding has questioned the commitment of younger players in the side, blaming the Indian Premier League (IPL) for a drastic shift in their priorities.

"I don't think the current Indian team is bothered about the defeat in the first two Tests. My only concern is -- are they giving any extra effort, or playing like 'supposed' world champions? Even after the Lord's debacle, the answer is a clear no! That's because, they will get more money to play in the IPL," fumed Holding, now a commentator for Sky Sports.

Holding also wondered why most Indian players underwent surgeries and rehabilitation after the IPL, despite the tour of UK in close proximity. "Why does anyone not get injured before the IPL, you tell me."
"That's because they are getting huge amounts of money (in IPL). Why would they bother about international commitments?" he asked.

It may be recalled that the likes of Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir aggravated their injuries during the IPL owing to impending surgeries that they delayed. Even S Sreesanth, Zaheer Khan and Yuvraj Singh played the entire IPL but did not travel to West Indies due to various injuries and to undergo rehabilitation at the National Cricket Academy (NCA). Holding reckoned the younger players in the Indian side were prioritising IPL ahead of international cricket.

"Except for Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman, nobody else in this team seems to be worried about the reputation of the country or of Test cricket. I am sure they are all aware about Test cricket, but are not bothered," said Holding.

Holding further attacked the quality of Indian batsmanship. "If IPL was to be organised in a country like South Africa or Australia, where the ball seams and bounces, the Indians would again crumble. However, if the ball is pitched beneath knee-level, like it is on Indian pitches, they will murder the bowling," said the 57-year-old.

Holding welcomed the inclusion of Virat Kohli in the Test squad. "I told you all along that Virat should have been part of the squad. If three out of the six batsmen (Abhinav Mukund, Yuvraj and Suresh Raina) have problems against short-pitched bowling, you cannot manage?" he said.

"I do not have a problem if these Indian youngsters are multi-millionaires. But they are not good enough for Test level. And that's what counts," concluded Holding.

http://www.mid-day.com/sports/2011/a...L-Injuries.htm

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 10:20 PM [Full View]

Did Holding watch Kohli struggle on these wickets than Raina/Mukund in Windies. Lazy punditry, much like ICF Forum & twitter. But I agree with other points.

From: Sourav on 5th August 2011 11:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

gambhir captain pola

whats there to laugh abt it?

From: kid-glove on 5th August 2011 11:37 PM [Full View]

Mishra

From: ajithfederer on 5th August 2011 11:55 PM [Full View]

Could have made at-least a 50 run stand. You should have heard senile in the commie box.

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

Completely agree with you. The way Mukund got out in the first innings in Nottingham is a prime example of wasting a good opportunity.

From: VinodKumar's on 5th August 2011 11:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Sourav

whats there to laugh abt it?

He seems to be so passive. Athunaala Captaincy material ah ennala paaka mudila

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 6th August 2011 04:37 PM [Full View]

Dravid makes a comeback into the odi side!!! Whoa!!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/526115.html

From: satissh_r on 6th August 2011 04:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

Dravid makes a comeback into the odi side!!! Whoa!!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/526115.html

With the exception for Parthiv, I like the squad.

From: Plum on 6th August 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Why Dravid now? Ada World Cupla select paNNi irundhA oru cup icecreamAvadhu kedaichirukkum. epdiyum aduththa world cup modern youth cricketers dhaan aadaNum. What's the point in selecting Dravid now? If the modern youth are not good enough for English conditions, let them get exposed no?

But Dravid can sing now(in retrospect)
"Yaarai nambi naan porandhen pongada ponga En kaalam vellum vendra pinne vangadaa vanga"

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 6th August 2011 05:32 PM [Full View]

While it will be great to see dravid in odis, this selection is very baffling. Completely ignored for the World Cup and now suddenly selected. Makes little sense. And the excuse of selecting him on the basis of right players for the right conditons is also very amusing to say the least. Hope this is not a stop gap solution that the selectors offer every time in the form of dravid. It will be good if they can allow him to continue for some time. Just thinking as to what dravid must be going through though hearing this news. Completely egoless and truly a great servant of indian cricket. Hope he does well

From: kid-glove on 6th August 2011 07:38 PM [Full View]

Good decision to bring back Rahul.

From: wizzy on 6th August 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

Last time when India got bounced out by England in world T-20 Dravid got a recall to the Indian odi team for the champion trophy in South Africa to save India's blushes. The selectors do not want to face people's wrath if the world champions get whitewashed in Odis too. I hate to see Dravid being pushed around by BCCI..how long will the young Indian players be babysitted? What kind of message does this send to young players that they are good enough only on 'patta' wickets
and to Dravid who will be dropped for the odis at home?
I hope Dravid shows a finger to the selectors and quits from odis. This is not a way to treat a legend.

From: satissh_r on 6th August 2011 07:53 PM [Full View]

Northans 174/0 in 38 overs. Zak has only bowled 3 overs

Munaf and Sree going for more than 5 an over...

From: rajkumarc on 6th August 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Seriously wish Dravid had retired from ODIs. Bringing him for tougher conditions like SA and now Eng just proves the shortsightedness of our selectors

From: ajithfederer on 6th August 2011 10:34 PM [Full View]

India in England 2011
Hiding behind the wall

Well past his 38th birthday, Rahul Dravid will hope his recall is not a repeat act of the 2009 call-up

Sidharth Monga

August 6, 2011

Hey Rahul, some of these youngsters don't seem to fancy tough pitches, and those bouncers in the World Twenty20 in England were plain nasty. Do you mind playing ODIs in the South African pre-summer?

Hey Rahul, we know you were our second-highest run-getter in the matches you played on the comeback, but look at those flat pitches full of 400 runs, do you mind making way for the future of Indian cricket? Then again, we are sending an even worse message to the youngsters: that they are not good enough for the tough conditions.

Two years later, with Dravid well past his 38th birthday:

Hey Rahul, our strike bowler has pulled up sore, do you mind keeping wicket while the captain bowls a few overs?

Hey Rahul, one of our openers delayed his surgery so he could play IPL and is missing now, and the other opener got injured during the match. Do you mind opening the innings soon after you have finished keeping wicket?

Hey Rahul, these English conditions seem tough again. We know we are world champions in this format without you, but do you mind seeing us through this series?

Yes, we know we punted on an untested opener in the most important Test series of the year, but we don't trust one of the youngsters to face the semi-old white Kookaburra that does less than the red Duke, loses its shine earlier, and cannot be bounced over the shoulder more than once in an over.

Never mind that you might not make it to the XI, because we might need all three of Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina and Rohit Sharma to fill in the fifth bowler's quota anyway. Balanced squad has never been our forte, you know, otherwise how would Wriddhiman Saha have made his Test debut as a batsman? By the way, you could keep wicket again, freeing up the captain to bowl a few overs. Or do you fancy having a bowl yourself?

And just so that there are no hard feelings later, after this series, when Rajkot and Hyderabad are pregnant with the possibility of 400 runs and knee-high bounce, we might have to drop you again. But you know that already from how we didn't tell you what we expected of you the last time, and then left you out without a word on your future. You can't stand in the way of the future of Indian cricket, can you?

And we know you will show little sense of entitlement despite having scored close to 11,000 runs in the format. You won't moan in the press, there won't be any tantrums or disillusionment. Who knows two years down the line we might call you up for ODIs again? So keep hitting that gym, or whatever you do to stay in top condition.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo
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© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

From: venkkiram on 7th August 2011 08:30 AM [Full View]

Dravid's inclusion indicates Indian team's crisis - Rediff.com

From: Bala (Karthik) on 7th August 2011 08:31 AM [Full View]

Padikkara namakke ratham kodhikkudhe, Dravidanukku eppadi irukkum.
Ippadi strategy (lack of it), decision edukkaravangalukku, indha maanamketta pozhappu thevaya

Dravida

I wish Dravid doesn't play in the shorter formats but he will

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

India in England 2011
Hiding behind the wall

Well past his 38th birthday, Rahul Dravid will hope his recall is not a repeat act of the 2009 call-up

Sidharth Monga

August 6, 2011

Hey Rahul, some of these youngsters don't seem to fancy tough pitches, and those bouncers in the World Twenty20 in England were plain nasty. Do you mind playing ODIs in the South African pre-summer?

Hey Rahul, we know you were our second-highest run-getter in the matches you played on the comeback, but look at those flat pitches full of 400 runs, do you mind making way for the future of Indian cricket? Then again, we are sending an even worse message to the youngsters: that they are not good enough for the tough conditions.

Two years later, with Dravid well past his 38th birthday:

Hey Rahul, our strike bowler has pulled up sore, do you mind keeping wicket while the captain bowls a few overs?

Hey Rahul, one of our openers delayed his surgery so he could play IPL and is missing now, and the other opener got injured during the match. Do you mind opening the innings soon after you have finished keeping wicket?

Hey Rahul, these English conditions seem tough again. We know we are world champions in this format without you, but do you mind seeing us through this series?

Yes, we know we punted on an untested opener in the most important Test series of the year, but we don't trust one of the youngsters to face the semi-old white Kookaburra that does less than the red Duke, loses its shine earlier, and cannot be bounced over the shoulder more than once in an over.

Never mind that you might not make it to the XI, because we might need all three of Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina and Rohit Sharma to fill in the fifth bowler's quota anyway. Balanced squad has never been our forte, you know, otherwise how would Wriddhiman Saha have made his Test debut as a batsman? By the way, you could keep wicket again, freeing up the captain to bowl a few overs. Or do you fancy having a bowl yourself?

And just so that there are no hard feelings later, after this series, when Rajkot and Hyderabad are pregnant with the possibility of 400 runs and knee-high bounce, we might have to drop you again. But you know that already from how we didn't tell you what we expected of you the last time, and then left you out without a word on your future. You can't stand in the way of the future of Indian cricket, can you?

And we know you will show little sense of entitlement despite having scored close to 11,000 runs in the format. You won't moan in the press, there won't be any tantrums or disillusionment. Who knows two years down the line we might call you up for ODIs again? So keep hitting that gym, or whatever you do to stay in top condition.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo
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© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

From: Nerd on 7th August 2011 08:40 AM [Full View]

Thought this was some kind of joke when I read it in FB.

Aduthu yaaru kavaaskaraa?

From: P_R on 7th August 2011 11:08 AM [Full View]

Zaheer bowled only 3 overs in the match against Northants.
Thiriniyum injoorA?

aNNan nooraavadhu noorai indha mEchulayAvadhu adichchA thEvalai. Little else to look forward to.

From: satissh_r on 7th August 2011 03:05 PM [Full View]

Zaheer ruled out of series

Zaheer Khan, the India fast bowler, has been ruled out of the remainder of the series against England. He will return to India and will be replaced by left-arm seamer RP Singh. Zaheer picked up a hamstring injury during the first Test at Lord's, but the BCCI has now said he not only has a recurring hamstring problem but also a right ankle impingement that will require surgery followed by a 14-16 week period of rehabilitation.

Zaheer's problems began on the very first day of the series, when he pulled up midway through his 14th over in the first innings at Lord's. The team management indicated Zaheer could be ready to bowl in the second innings, but he was unable to do so and was ruled out of the second Test at Trent Bridge. There were expectations he would return for the Edgbaston Test but he only got through three overs in the Indians' warm-up match in Northampton, and has now been pulled out of the squad.

Since the first Test, Zaheer had been through light training sessions, and there had been indications from the India camp that he would take part at some stage in the series, which only grew stronger when he was named in the side for the tour game against Northamptonshire. However, he left the field after bowling just three overs.

India had also named Zaheer in the squad for the limited-over matches in England, but he will miss those as well, with RP Singh taking his place. RP Singh has not played for India since 2009, with his last Test coming during India's home series against South Africa in 2008.

India have now lost three players from their original squad; Harbhajan Singh and Yuvraj Singh were withdrawn after sustaining a stomach and finger injury respectively during the Trent Bridge Test. Zaheer's injury though has been the biggest setback for the visitors. Even as he was hobbling off at Lord's, predictions for the series started to swing dramatically in England's favour. His absence from the next two Tests leaves India with an inexperienced bowling attack, with the 22-year-old Ishant Sharma the most-capped of all the bowlers left in the Test squad.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/526228.html

From: Bala (Karthik) on 7th August 2011 03:57 PM [Full View]

Which was the last series where Zaheer has been injury free?

From: sankara1970 on 7th August 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

pavam ya avara yen ippadi paduthireenga-vera batsman nattula lillave illaya?

From: Plum on 7th August 2011 04:12 PM [Full View]

Ipl 2011......

From: MADDY on 7th August 2011 06:29 PM [Full View]

Dravid retires from shorter formats

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_...sp?n_id=111172

but is it before this series?? i mean, he should retire before England series and snub the selectors...........

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 7th August 2011 07:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

Dravid retires from shorter formats

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_...sp?n_id=111172

but is it before this series?? i mean, he should retire before England series and snub the selectors...........

No this will be his last odi series...will reportedly play all the five matches

From: Plum on 7th August 2011 07:34 PM [Full View]

I guess Rahul just assumed his ODI career was over and didn't want to make a fuss about retirement. This selection forced him to officially retire.
Beginning of end for India's dominayion - okay what I see is England gaining power on and off the field soon. Hopefully, we will see their naked, shameless misuse of power soon enough that should open some unopened eyes yet

From: sathya_1979 on 7th August 2011 07:36 PM [Full View]

Plum, appO we would have dis-owned kirikit! Who cares dhaan!

From: P_R on 7th August 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

Zaheerbhai out. Needs operation.
Srinath-ai koopiduvaangannu edhirpaarthEn. nalla vELai Rudra Pradhaaban.

Actually I am muchly disappointed. I wanted a full force team for the remaining two matches for pazhaya panneerselvam reasons.

From: MADDY on 7th August 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

we lose zaheer for injury and lose out any opportunity of winning a single test match......... this is something unexpected but a normal event - a good team loses their key player in one of the series and lose badly, this is normal but English media like bottom, 0 mark nicholas, Waugh.N , Michael holding mike will make sure they establish the following things:

a) ICC's test ranking system is a flaw and India's rise to no.1 is a mistake, now the correct no.1 team has been crowned,
b) IPL. is the mother of evils, causing injury to players and BCCI is a cash-demon that is out there to destroy "pure" cricket,
c) BCCI uses literate thugs like ravi shastri and sunny to hide their faults and do not even care improving their "pure" cricket abilities,
d) Non-acceptance of DRS is the major reason for India's defeat and they should "open their minds" and start using it,
e) ICC should now atleast wake up and rid evil India's domination from the game

one test series and they will make so many conclusions - after all they have been vindicated by this drubbing of Indian team.............im happy that BCCI is bashed, even if its by the wrong people for their complete ignorance on real cricketing issues and its development......

From: P_R on 7th August 2011 08:28 PM [Full View]

Bowling is subzero. Even with Zaheer I don't think India would have been able to take twenty wickets.
Ishanth's fantastic spell in the second innings at Lord's is the best bowling run for either side thus far. But they are not able to press and get anything out of it. England bats deep - as has been painfully proven. So unless you keep attacking till the very end - it is impossible to nail England. And India clearly don't have the ability to do that beyond wonderbursts.

But what has been particularly disappointing is India's batting. Sachin, Laxman not converting it. Dravid

Raina's knock was not confidence inducing. It was a nothing-to-lose innings. He doesn't look 'solid' - short ball or otherwise. Dhoni is a walking wicket.
Kohli hopefully will bring some bite. But surely Laxman, Sachin have to join Dravid and play a long innings to get India to a big enough score that can be defended by this attack.

I see this was the last test we played at Edgbaston

From: 19thmay on 8th August 2011 12:49 PM [Full View]

Initially Sehwag, Gambhir, Zaheer got selected. Sehwag was injured, Mukund plays with Gambhir, Gambhir gets injured, Mukund plays with Dravid, Sachin gets viral fever, Zaheer played for a day then got injured for the rest of the days, Zaheer dropped, R.P.Singh comes, Yuvraj played a test match, got injured going back to India, Harbhajan was simply running and jumping in the past two test matches, got injured going back to India, now Sehwag is back - Enakku thala suthi suthi varudhu theriyuma?.....Yaaravadhu micha socha match-a vilayandu jeichu tholaingappa

From: sathya_1979 on 8th August 2011 12:52 PM [Full View]

awesome post Sridhar! 11 fit players aaduradhE ippo periya vishayam. jeikkaNumA? pErAsaidhaan!

From: 19thmay on 8th August 2011 12:53 PM [Full View]

Our Indian team was like Sathyan's first story to Sathyaraj in Mahanadigan.

From: sathya_1979 on 8th August 2011 12:54 PM [Full View]

thambi oomai, thangachi noNdi! vaarE vaah!

From: Plum on 8th August 2011 02:03 PM [Full View]

innum hope vechurukkIngaLA yArAvadhu? innumA indha ooru kaipuLLaya nambi kittirukku?

From: SoftSword on 8th August 2011 02:26 PM [Full View]

:raising_hand:

From: Siv.S on 8th August 2011 04:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Our Indian team was like Sathyan's first story to Sathyaraj in Mahanadigan.

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

thambi oomai, thangachi noNdi! vaarE vaah!

From: Bala (Karthik) on 8th August 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Our Indian team was like Sathyan's first story to Sathyaraj in Mahanadigan.

.............

From: Plum on 8th August 2011 05:11 PM [Full View]

Comedy Gold from cricinfo

But only to that extent.
One of the currently fashionable moans is that there are no good bowlers any more. All the great ones of the last couple of decades have retired and there's no-one to replace them.

Really?

Is Dale Steyn going to end up as South Africa's best-ever fast bowler, or will that title remain with Allan Donald – and if it's still going to be Donald, by what margin?
Have India ever had a better pace bowler than a fit Zaheer Khan?

With the exception of Wasim Akram, which left-arm quicks have been better than Zaheer, who swings both the new and the old ball and was chiefly responsible for the wins which elevated India to the top spot in Test cricket?

What did Michael Holding do that Stuart Broad did not do while taking five for none at Trent Bridge?
Would Suresh Raina or Yuvraj Singh have been any more uncomfortable being worked over by Andy Roberts than they were by Tim Bresnan?
What extra weapons does Chris Tremlett need to be comparable with Joel Garner?

No Comments

From: sathya_1979 on 8th August 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

Kapil Dev, Sirinath ellaam endha kaNakkula sErkkaradhu?

Holding = Broad - Jang
Roberts = Bresnan - jagajang
Garner = Tremlett - jagajagajagajagajagajagajang
courtesy: PR thambi !
Plum, Who the F is the blog author? Sathyaraj oru padathula sonnaa maadhiri - oru computerum keyboardum kedacha udanE ennammaa yOsikkaraanuva!

From: MADDY on 8th August 2011 06:10 PM [Full View]

Stuart Broad, Bresnan ellam remba overu but i would like hubbers opinion on

Wasim/Waqar v WI quickies of 70s
Warne/Murali/Kumble/saqlain v spin quartet of 70's India
and was there any bowler like Mcgrath or Shaun Pollock who hit off stump just like waves hit the shores??

karuthhu parimaattram welcome - no fightings please

From: sathya_1979 on 8th August 2011 06:47 PM [Full View]

Good start partner! We can also analyze or hypothesize like below, to start with
How could have WI quickies done in the era of helmets, protection, limitations on bouncers - When the game became batsmen-oriented?
How better Wasim and Waqar could have done when these restrictions were not there?

From: venkkiram on 8th August 2011 07:21 PM [Full View]

இந்த முறையாவது (மித)வேகப் பந்து வீச்சாளர்கள் நால்வரை தேர்வு செய்வார்களா? இஷாந்த், ஸ்ரீசாந்த், ஆர்.பி.சிங், குமார் - சரியான டெஸ்ட் கூட்டணி. ஜெயிக்கிறமோ தோற்கிறமோ..போராடும் குணத்தை வளர்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும். இந்த நால்வருக்கு அந்த ஒரு வாய்ப்பு அமைய அடித்தளமாக இந்த தொடரின் இனி வரும் பாதியை பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ளலாம். எதிர்காலத்திற்கு பலன் தரும்.

From: ajithfederer on 8th August 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

Northampton: If injuries and back-to-back Test defeats were not enough, the Indian cricket team's tour of England has taken another disastrous turn as pacer Praveen Kumar reportedly got into a spat with fans after the practice match against Nothamptonshire here.

According to a report on a website, "large groups of Indian fans encircled the tourist's team bus as they attempted to make an exit from the County ground."

AFP

"While most of the banter directed towards the players was good-natured and in support of the Indian team, as it had been throughout the day, things turned ugly shortly before the tourists team bus departed."

Praveen was reportedly "seen charging out of the team bus with a cricket bat in his hand."

"(He) had to be restrained by teammate Suresh Raina as he lunged towards a group of supporters. Praveen could be seen pointing at a group of fans and had to be restrained by stewards."

The website reported that it did not stop at that and medium pacer Munaf Patel "left his seat on the bus to complain to stewards that fans were being disrespectful to him and some teammates.

"Munaf was seen speaking to the stewards and pointing towards fans and asking stewards to intervene in the issue.

"As stunned fans looked on at the bizarre events, not long after Patel regained his seat on the team bus, Praveen once again leapt out of the team bus and made a charge for the same group of fans who he had attempted to lunge towards a few minutes earlier," it said.

"Stewards once again had to restrain Praveen as he hurled abuse and pointed at one particular fan."

Raina once again played peacemaker and brought Praveen back onto the team bus.

"It was then the turn of the Indian security manager to come face to face with the young fan as another verbal exchange ensued. Once again the stewards had to intervene just as the incident was about to escalate. The young fan was dragged away by stewards and escorted out of the ground."

"Other eyewitnesses who were close to the series of incidents stated that the ejected fan may have been drunk and abusive to Praveen and was allegedly hurling abuse at him.

"However, another group of Indian fans stated that Kumar's behaviour was nothing short of disgraceful and even if there had been any provocation, Praveen should have left it to the stewards to deal with instead of running out of the team bus twice.

From: ajithfederer on 8th August 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

Shewag has a partial hearing loss now.

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

thambi oomai, thangachi noNdi! vaarE vaah!

From: ajithfederer on 8th August 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Vaughan predicts a 4-0 whitewash of India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9529470.cms

From: ajaybaskar on 9th August 2011 02:43 PM [Full View]

Shastri and Sunny to be hanged!!

From: MADDY on 9th August 2011 02:45 PM [Full View]

London riots continue, Birmingham test in jeopardy

Indian team should cite safety reasons and come back home........countries like England are pretty unsafe for players, u know :P

From: SoftSword on 9th August 2011 02:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

London riots continue, Birmingham test in jeopardy

Indian team should cite safety reasons and come back home........countries like England are pretty unsafe for players, u know :P

fingers crossed. 50:50 chance for the start of game on first day...

From: sathya_1979 on 9th August 2011 02:53 PM [Full View]

Conspiracy Alert: vaaganam and other English paNdidhargaL claim that India had instigated the Riots to escape from 4-0 Whitewash

From: Plum on 9th August 2011 03:31 PM [Full View]

vaaganam

From: Plum on 9th August 2011 03:54 PM [Full View]

James Anderson traces 10 milestones in England's journey towars their status as the #1 Test team in the world

Other statistical trivia about the Birmingham test:
1. It will be Tim Bresnan's 9th straight test win starting from his test debut. This beats the current English record held by his current captain, Andrew Strauss(assuming Bresnan is selected)

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 04:12 PM [Full View]

The match may be called off, there are lots of Riots here, in London alone 450 arrests were made in 10 different towns in London! There are riots in Bristol, liverpool, birmingham, nottingham and manchester.

Government says there is not enough Police resources to deploy for Games ! David Cameroon is likely to bring in the army to bring some order in the cities. It has been a nightmare in London!

From: Plum on 9th August 2011 04:26 PM [Full View]

Farams, what exactly is the trigger? enna nadakkudhu? First hand report kudunga

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

The cops shot a black guy. The cops claim he opened fire first, nothing proven yet.

The riot broke out after a peaceful rally (in protest of this) went ugly. I think most of the rioters are merely impoverished, who found the means to thieve around. That comments a lot about the condition they are in.

Although it begins with race (like most issues are,) videos/photos show more whites & Asians than Blacks.

Football match called off btw. A friendly b/w England & my Oranje in Wembley. A huge pity coz we could have become no.1 team in the world had we beat Eng (& Italy beat Spain).

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Farams, what exactly is the trigger? enna nadakkudhu? First hand report kudunga

A guy (karuppu inathai serntha manithan) was shot dead by cop few days ago, this happened during a "drug" raid in Tottenham (near oxford circus), itha oru excuse ah vachu vela vetti illatha kamanattinga ellam aarambichutanga. Looting Government buildings, shops, stealing from shops during the riots, looting cars in the street, absolute barberic violence!

Estham, Ilford was also targetted
BBC website la parunga

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 04:41 PM [Full View]

No, In the video footage, I have seen (sky, BBC) it was mainly "Karuppus"and "vellais", hardly any Asians!

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 04:41 PM [Full View]

Tottenham is one of those areas with a huge unemployment ratio. And with varied racial communities there. One could only imagine this as a desperate outrage ..

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

No, In the video footage, I have seen (sky, BBC) it was mainly "Karuppus"and "vellais", hardly any Asians!

Try youtube..
Perhaps not Asians, perhaps Arabians/Africans. Hey we all look same man..

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 04:44 PM [Full View]

Look how it's spreading:
http://londonriotsmap.appspot.com/

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 04:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Try youtube..
Perhaps not Asians, perhaps Arabians/Africans. Hey we all look same man..

yeah they look Turkish, Eastern Europeans oh what ever, this is outrageous!

BTW, where in London do you work ?

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

I don't live in London but I've been there..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

British Police is so soft on Criminals , because all this human rights crap !

They should treat the criminals with no respect! They should be more like the US police!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

I don't live in London but I've been there..

Oh OK

From: Plum on 9th August 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Thanks Faramu and Git. Not to rub it in, but whatever happened to the White Man's Burden now?

From: scorpio on 9th August 2011 05:22 PM [Full View]

Riots-llam sandhoshapadara vishayam illai..but still oru alpa aasai. 3rd test gets cancelled and India wins the fourth. Result is 2-1 and England's kanavu of World No-1 gets washed out

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 05:25 PM [Full View]

Flau

Here you go http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msi...195%2C0.298691

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2011 05:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Riots-llam sandhoshapadara vishayam illai..but still oru alpa aasai. 3rd test gets cancelled and India wins the fourth. Result is 2-1 and England's kanavu of World No-1 gets washed out

From: Plum on 9th August 2011 06:06 PM [Full View]

England are deservedly top rank

Scorps - ungaLukku vevaramE theriyala. England are already #1. nInga ennamO mazhaiya vechu draw paNNalAm. Riots-ai vechu cancel paNNalAm appuiramA oru match jeyichu #1 AgidalAmnu kanavu kaNdukittirukkInga...

From: raghavendran on 9th August 2011 06:25 PM [Full View]

...India kadasiya ivolo kevalama thothadu eppo?..whitewash?

From: kid-glove on 9th August 2011 06:27 PM [Full View]

Worth reading Zizek http://t.co/svdcKKu on Paris riots of 2005. #LondonRiots

From: ajithfederer on 9th August 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2s0o65d.jpg

From: P_R on 9th August 2011 11:07 PM [Full View]

Anderson about the journey to the top

Curious he doesn't mention Ashes 2009 victory. It was in balance till the last test which Swann won for them - and thus making it a kind of no-contest between him and Monty Panesar.
The South Africa survivals were fantastic. It was a crazy tour. They defeated SA more comprehensively that it had ever been in recent times, but still had to fight hard to even survive in that series. Look forward to SA in England, whenever that is.

Didn’t start great when I had a rib busted by Chris Tremlett in a Bavarian forest boxing ring

ennAdhidhu ?

From: ajithfederer on 9th August 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

1999-00 Aus tour 3-0
2000 SA tour to India 2-0 after which during the ODI Series the match fixing scandal broke.

Originally Posted by raghavendran

...India kadasiya ivolo kevalama thothadu eppo?..whitewash?

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th August 2011 12:16 AM [Full View]

Didn’t start great when I had a rib busted by Chris Tremlett in a Bavarian forest boxing ring

Originally Posted by P_R

ennAdhidhu ?

England had a bonding camp before last Ashes and Tremlett broke Anderson's rib in one of those boxing sessions

From: venkkiram on 10th August 2011 01:48 AM [Full View]

Akram :

Rudra Pratap Singh should be inducted into the playing XI ahead of Sreesanth along with Ishant Sharma and Praveen Kumar. சரியா சொன்னிங்க.

I am happy to see RP Singh's return to the Indian team. He is a good replacement for Zaheer and is one bowler who can really trouble the English batsmen சிங்கிற்கு இதைவிட வெகுமதி வேறென்ன இருக்க முடியும்! His upright, seam-up action helps the ball slant easily and India will be tempted to play him ahead of Sreesanth"

"Ishant and Praveen will complete the pace troika but this duo must not lose heart when a partnership is building. Having said this, I would have loved to see Laxmipathy Balaji in England. He swings the ball well and can work up a decent pace too." உனக்குத் தெரியுது. இந்த பிசிசிஐ மன்னாருகளுக்கு தெரியலயே!

......

From: P_R on 10th August 2011 08:32 AM [Full View]

Vaseline's ad reply to Michael Vaughan http://yfrog.com/z/h017593112j

http://yfrog.com/h017593112j

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 02:06 PM [Full View]

England's team of talents are in touching distance of summit

Just in case you have forgotten...

With Tim Bresnan and Ravi Bopara outstanding stand-ins, Andrew Strauss has impressive resources for the third Test
It is hard to see how India can come back from this. Hampered by injury and lack of proper preparation, an impression in no way altered by the indolent manner in which they approached their match in Northampton last week, they have been roundly beaten not once but twice by a side who for the last year have been playing a very high-class game.
The hope that India, as notoriously slow starters, would be stung into action by the match at Lord's proved a forlorn one and as they go to Edgbaston, the closest England have to a fortress and the most hostile ground to opposition, they do not even have that to fall back on.
The England side of the Andrews, Flower and Strauss, understand to the full not just their strengths but also their limitations. They bat well, brilliantly at times, but not so well or consistently that they could compete, in theory anyway, with the stellar nature of India's top order. But then they know that the lower-order batting, unmatched in the game at the moment, can compensate. This is not arrogance but the sort of trust in one another forged in places as disparate as Melbourne and the Bavarian Alps.

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 02:25 PM [Full View]

England's choice of venue for toppling India officially
They are not only annihilating us - it seems Edbagston is the best place to topple India. They are even choosing the venue where they'll administer the poison. Wow - this is some humiliation!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 10th August 2011 03:11 PM [Full View]

Despite the riots, the match is set to go ahead! 100 Police officers are deployed with around 500 Full geared riots police! Rain is set to arrive by late afternoon!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 10th August 2011 03:12 PM [Full View]

england have won the toss and elected to bowl.....hopefully a good toss to lose for india

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 03:33 PM [Full View]

Is Mukund there? Without Mukund, there is no hope in hell we'll reach a score of 450 in first innings, which is the minimum India need to win this match.

From: raajarasigan on 10th August 2011 03:36 PM [Full View]

இல்லிங்... கம்பீர் ரெண்டு பௌண்டரி அடித்துள்ளார்..

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th August 2011 03:38 PM [Full View]

Sehwag out first ball

From: Balaji.r on 10th August 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

ithukku dravid-a open panna vittrukalam

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

Always on the cards, Viru goes for a duck.

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 03:49 PM [Full View]

ennatha late afternoon? andha rain-a ippovE vara sollunga

adikira adiyila pitch midhakkaNum

From: hamid on 10th August 2011 03:50 PM [Full View]

:OOOooooooooo:

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

One kind request friends:

Please avoid polambifying atleast for this test...
thoatthaa thoatthuttu porom... ur polambals would not change anything...

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

sonnOmla - Mukund was the better choice. Tamizhanukku dhrOgam paNdra teamukku idhu dhAn gadhi

Softie, polambaraudhula oru sugam. adhaiyAvadhu paNNittu pOrOmE

From: hamid on 10th August 2011 03:59 PM [Full View]

Softie.. intha polambal ellam konja nerathula adankidum..

kavala padaathiinga..

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 04:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

One kind request friends:

Please avoid polambifying atleast for this test...
thoatthaa thoatthuttu porom... ur polambals would not change anything...

Exactly!!, rain athu ithunnu,.. scorpio

let us have some entertainment... sehwag wicket was unfortunate.. looking at 5 RR... he should have been there...

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

Softie.. intha polambal ellam konja nerathula adankidum..

kavala padaathiinga..

kavalaikku illa....
indha thread'a open pannave edho ezhavu veetula nolanja maadhiri irundhadhu last testla ellaam...

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 04:04 PM [Full View]

ennOda nestu targettu...nayanthara(Australia tour).

Song for Dhoni:
mannAdhi mannanai ellAm pArthavan nAn
andha melbourne veeranaiyE edhirthavan nAn
appErpatta ennai panchayathula niruthi puttAngaLE
en arumai enna perumai enna andhasthenna
basti enna gusthi enna dhandaal enna
ini nAn enna solvEnnnnn, enna seivEnnnn
(turns to Raina, mAppiLLai, idhukku mEla neeyE pAdurA!)

Raina, Kohli, Mishra and Goshti:
en soga kadhaiya kELu thAikulamE
AhA thaikulamE namma thAikulamE
adhai kEttA dhAn thAngAdhamma unga manamE
AhA unga manamE! AhA unga manamE

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 04:04 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...800/135832.jpg

Appdiye konjam pinnala saainchu koduthapla.. ball thadavittu poiduchu...

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 10th August 2011 04:09 PM [Full View]

Looks like a pitch that will suit our batsmen. Hopefully we will capitalize on this.....

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 04:16 PM [Full View]

Cricket extra with AR rahman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlKwl...layer_embedded

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

SS- enga jana naayaga urimaya paRikkadheenga

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

scorpio, adhu oru request avlavudhaan...
ofcourse you have the right to take or ignore it...

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 10th August 2011 04:32 PM [Full View]

13.4 Bresnan to Gambhir, FOUR!!, PEACH! You can't play much better than that. Maybe he was expecting it, it was full and Gambhir got forward to thunder it down the ground with a dead straight bat. The shot of the day so far

I enjoyed that.....super shot

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 04:32 PM [Full View]

Subbing bowlers on the very first day & first session, first spell #spiritofcricket.

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 04:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan

13.4 Bresnan to Gambhir, FOUR!!, PEACH! You can't play much better than that. Maybe he was expecting it, it was full and Gambhir got forward to thunder it down the ground with a dead straight bat. The shot of the day so far

I enjoyed that.....super shot

then why are you on Cricbuzz.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 10th August 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

then why are you on Cricbuzz.

missed it....watched it on the replay after viewing cricbuzz. Now watching though.

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

Dravid's boundaries today

From: venkkiram on 10th August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

"Before he came into bat, Rahul Dravid needed to play another 315 balls to become the first player to face 30,000 balls (equivalent to 5,000 overs in international test matches). Dravid's 34 centuries and 60 fifties came in 40776 minutes which is so far the highest than any other player."

.......

From: raajarasigan on 10th August 2011 05:00 PM [Full View]

கம்பீர் அவுட் .. பயபுள்ள நல்ல தானே ஆடிகிட்டிருந்தான்..

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

60/3 yetho sathi nadakkuthu-veppa ilaya vachu payalukalukku nalla adicha sari avanunga

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Sachin also out. cha, ella sandhOshamum romba short-lived-aa irukku.

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Porum romba pugazatheenga-appuram aout auduven

From: raajarasigan on 10th August 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

as usual, it is Dravid + Laxman again

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th August 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

This tour is nothing short of a disaster

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

England are one wicket away from running into the Indian tail...

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 05:32 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar is total flop in this series...... Dravid also gone... now its difficult to reach three digits ...

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Pl. send Amit Mishra next. He is much better than Raina and Dhoni.

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 05:36 PM [Full View]

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 05:37 PM [Full View]

idukkaN vagungAl naguga...Git is overdoing the naguga part, I say

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

Ippa softsworde vanthu polamba vendithaan inga

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:40 PM [Full View]

nama pesaratha mike vachu kepangalo

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:45 PM [Full View]

Subam potudalam

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 05:52 PM [Full View]

Namma batsmen mokkai-ya aadi wicket-ai gift pannangaLaa, or is the pitch and weather favouring bowling?

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:52 PM [Full View]

Romba Kashtamnu ninacha Kashtam than-net la nalla practice pannina-ellam easy than.

Ball color vena mathi parkalam-Namma oorukku varatum-parthukalam

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:53 PM [Full View]

it's bowler friendly wicket-Reverse swing helps bowlers

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 05:55 PM [Full View]

4-0 rout is not ruled out-Kan munnadi theriyuthu

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 06:09 PM [Full View]

Mishra needs to come in next

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 06:17 PM [Full View]

Ya Eng bowlers do not know how he will play

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 06:36 PM [Full View]

Enna periya? Aduththu Mishra varAtti enna? Anju nimishathula epdiyum vandhu dhAnE AgaNum

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 06:39 PM [Full View]

Dhoni...please....innikaavadhu....double digit runs edukkavum

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Last test match played by Raina-gud bye

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

Idho vandhache Mishra?
Looks like a not so difficult pitch to me. England batting are going to cash in. Firs time ever - world #1 losing 3-0 or 4-0 or 3-1 in a series. Indha recordlaam England paNNa mudiyumA?

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

10 thane-easy

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

Mishra vandachu

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 06:53 PM [Full View]

watch England openers come back to form in this test..Cook will score a 100..no place to hide for this Indian team..even Nass has mellowed down his anti-IPL/BCCi rhetoric looking at our plight.

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

Whispering Death Stuart Broad bowling...

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 06:55 PM [Full View]

http://www.livegoals.com/livescore/i...friendly-games

Germany vs Brazil
Italy vs Spain
France vs Chile
Pity the 4th world nation England have canceled the game with delightful Oranje.

Then we'd have Rogers Cup (Tennis)

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

Rationally, although it is heart breaking to see England given a chance to blow their trumpet, it is a pleasure to see Shastri and co. Shut up and stripped of their strut. Hopefully, BCCI will get enough negative publicity to wake them into prioritizing tests. 4-0 or 3-0 or even 3-1 is a good result towards that eventuality

From: raajarasigan on 10th August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

ஏ டண்டணக்கா ஏ டணக்குணக்க...

From: sankara1970 on 10th August 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

If Indian players feel fatigue, then we shall rest them and give chance other eligible players-we can't call retired players again and again.

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

we are missing Weed's batting

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 07:05 PM [Full View]

First innings mudinja udanE naamaLe volunteer-aa follow on paNNi second innings serthu aadidarOm-nnu solla rules irukka? In that case, this torture match can end on 3rd day morning itself.

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:06 PM [Full View]

avlo nallaavaa bowling podraanga?

From: scorpio on 10th August 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

Bhajji adikira adhE naalu run dhaan Mishra adichaapla. Bowling-aavadhu nalla suzhatti suzhatti pOduppa.

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th August 2011 07:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

avlo nallaavaa bowling podraanga?

Our batsmen are sleepwalking through out the series (except Dravid). The team suddenly seems to have lost mental strength which propelled them towards no. 1 in tests.

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

sachin'ku yaarachum sooniyam vechuttaangalaa?
i have never seen him playing so poorly in 5 innings together... enna aachu...adhum orae bowler'kitta out...
10 naala enna pannaanga?
broad'a epdi velayaadradhunu oru analyse kooda panirukka mattaangala?

is it the impact of fletchers presence in the dressing room... things not working out?

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th August 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

is it the impact of fletchers presence in the dressing room... things not working out?

I'm beginning to believe that Fletcher is not continuing from where Kirsten left. Agreed he is new and I'm not exactly blaming him. But Kirsten played a big role in making this team mentally strong. Never seen Indian team down and out like this in recent memory.

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 07:30 PM [Full View]

Dhoni playing an ODI innings.

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

Fletcher is ECB's mole.

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I'm beginning to believe that Fletcher is not continuing from where Kirsten left. Agreed he is new and I'm not exactly blaming him. But Kirsten played a big role in making this team mentally strong. Never seen Indian team down and out like this in recent memory.

adhe dhaan nanum solraen..
appointment news vandhappove idhaan sonen... christian fletcher madhiri villain aagida poraro'nu...
try and losing/falling is different...
here there is no sign of intent or no clue about we approach a game with any plan....

From: GSV on 10th August 2011 07:39 PM [Full View]

We are winning this match.. sure

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

apdi solludaa en vellakkutti....

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adhe dhaan nanum solraen..
appointment news vandhappove idhaan sonen... christian fletcher madhiri villain aagida poraro'nu...
try and losing/falling is different...
here there is no sign of intent or no clue about we approach a game with any plan....

blaming the coach is a easy cop out. India won in England lastime without a coach.
blame it on the batting trinity who have failed to fire in unison in this series.

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 07:46 PM [Full View]

If India gets 250 in the first innings then India has a fighting chance if they bat well in the second innings.

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

blaming the coach is a easy cop out. India won in England lastime without a coach.
blame it on the batting trinity who have failed to fire in unison in this series.

batting trinity failure is one valid point which everyone should agree...
otoh, bad coach is worser than no coach... ( am not completely blaming on fletcher now, am just thinking on those lines as i can see no other factors changed now )

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 07:50 PM [Full View]

It's a case of everything falling apart at the same time..

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Pipty

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 07:52 PM [Full View]

Dhoni 50. More to come.

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 07:52 PM [Full View]

Dhoni

, good support by Praveen

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

It's a case of everything falling apart at the same time..

even if you plan for a failure, everything falling apart will not happen as easily as it happens now...

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 07:57 PM [Full View]

Let us predict the India's first innings score. I am predicting at 300. Whoever predicts closer to the final score is the winner.

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

Praveen surpasses his highest score in test.

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

If you plan this badly, then obviously you're going to fall down hard.

Hope this comeback by Dhoni & Praveen is a decisive match/seris-changing one (as Broad/Swann in 2nd test 1st innings). But would our bowlers be able to take 20 wickets?

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adhe dhaan nanum solraen..
appointment news vandhappove idhaan sonen... christian fletcher madhiri villain aagida poraro'nu...
try and losing/falling is different...
here there is no sign of intent or no clue about we approach a game with any plan....

Yes, naan appOvE doubt AnEn - LM dhAn avaru periya appatakkarnu solli topic0ai kalaichuttAr

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 08:01 PM [Full View]

prediction - less than 300

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 08:02 PM [Full View]

Prediction less than 225

From: kid-glove on 10th August 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

Prediction less than 200.

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

You have to come up with the whole number. Whoever gets the right prediction meaning closer to the number is the winner.

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 08:06 PM [Full View]

Praveen

From: 19thmay on 10th August 2011 08:08 PM [Full View]

I think 210-215

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:09 PM [Full View]

200 is up for India.

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 08:10 PM [Full View]

Should be india's quickest 200 in the series ?

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:15 PM [Full View]

If India can score 300 somehow then the honors are even for both team.

From: MADDY on 10th August 2011 08:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by cinema

If India can score 300 somehow then the honors are even for both team.

is the pitch a first-innings-300-runs pitch??

Dhoni's innings is again a flash in the pan case just like ishant's burst in 1st test and sree/PK burst in second test...........dont be gladdened by it, i think India is in for a mauling this test as well......something seriously wrong with the team, they are coming into the field to be beaten by England.....i have my doubts on Fletcher fixed now - dei, nee duncan fletchera illa dasavadharam-la varra christian fletchera???

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 08:23 PM [Full View]

appove sonen:

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post678849

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

is the pitch a first-innings-300-runs pitch??

Dhoni's innings is again a flash in the pan case just like ishant's burst in 1st test and sree/PK burst in second test...........dont be gladdened by it, i think India is in for a mauling this test as well......something seriously wrong with the team, they are coming into the field to be beaten by England.....i have my doubts on Fletcher fixed now - dei, nee duncan fletchera illa dasavadharam-la varra christian fletchera???

330-350 is a par score for this pitch. But given the current conditions of collapse, India will try to gain mental edge at any score beyond 300 IMO.

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

chennai vaazhnaNbargaLe - weekend varaikkum match thAngichunA, idhai pArthu polambAma, namma pEsAma iLam puyal Sadagoppan Ramesh nadicha pOttapOtti 50/50 pOlAm varrIngaLA?

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 08:31 PM [Full View]

adhu pattapatti plum....
btw, neenga chennailaya irukkeenga...
neenga endha hubberayum nerla sandhikradhillainu mudivoda irukradhaa illa naan nenachen...

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:40 PM [Full View]

Ishant has to surpass his highest test score and then game is on.

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

Dhoni's those 2 pull shot four, and this hook shot Six was tooo quick...

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

India lost 7 wickets for first seven wickets and then lost 1 wicket for next 111 runs. (111-7 to 222-8)

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

Dhoni is gone.

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

dhoni...
this should give him some confidence in himself which is much needed to lead the team...

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

adhAvadhu Rahul Dravid 100 adikkaRachE lower order puttukkum. lower order adikkaRachE Rahul Dravid etc puttuppAnga. It seems like destiny is against India in this series. oNyum paNNa mudiyAdhu.

Alastair Cook Cricketing Gods-ku EdhO narabali koduththu correct paNNitApla.

From: cinema on 10th August 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

224/10 India

From: Siv.S on 10th August 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

Dhoni

From: SoftSword on 10th August 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

adhAvadhu Rahul Dravid 100 adikkaRachE lower order puttukkum. lower order adikkaRachE Rahul Dravid etc puttuppAnga. It seems like destiny is against India in this series. oNyum paNNa mudiyAdhu.

Alastair Cook Cricketing Gods-ku EdhO narabali koduththu correct paNNitApla.

narabali dhaan naadupoora kudutthuttu irukkaangalae...

From: Plum on 10th August 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

apdiyAvadhu Cricketla jeyiikkaNumnu enna veRiyO?
namma players apdi illai - nAdu subitchamA irukkaNumnu #1 ranking-ai bali kodukkaRAnga.
Cricketla England jeyikkalAM AnA manidhAbimAnathula namma dhAn jeyichIOm

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

dismissal of VVS sums up India's batting..reckless..only Dravid was done in by the seam movement.

From: wizzy on 10th August 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

apdiyAvadhu Cricketla jeyiikkaNumnu enna veRiyO?
namma players apdi illai - nAdu subitchamA irukkaNumnu #1 ranking-ai bali kodukkaRAnga.
Cricketla England jeyikkalAM AnA manidhAbimAnathula namma dhAn jeyichIOm

Spirit of cricketla India no. 1

From: Sourav on 10th August 2011 11:36 PM [Full View]

dhoni!

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 11th August 2011 12:01 AM [Full View]

An excellent innings from dhoni... Atlast a good performance from him. But otherwise the batting has been horrendous to say the least. Sachin has been very disappointing the whole series;laxman out to a poor shot once again.Well its the batting thats been the main shortcoming for us throughout the series and this innings is no exception. Expect england to put on a huge score on this flat wicket and to bat india out of the game

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 12:21 AM [Full View]

Ok. # 1 poiruchu. Nalla vela WC 4 varusathuku oru time varuthu illaena athaiyum pudigirupaanga innerathuku.

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 08:31 AM [Full View]

No.1 namma kaila irundhu poradhai vida, English team no. 1 aaga poradhai ninaicha

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 08:46 AM [Full View]

ஏன் மாஸ்டர்! இங்கிலாந்தை இப்படி வெறுக்கிறீங்க! வெறுப்பு எல்லாவற்றையும் ஒதுக்கிவைத்து பாருங்கள். அப்போ தெரியும் ஆற்றலில், திறமையில், முயன்றுபார்க்கும் குணத்தில்.. நம்மை விட அவர்கள் எவ்வளவு தூரம் முன்னே இருக்கிறார்கள் என! அடி மேல அடி விழுந்துமா அவர்களோட ஆதிக்கம் இன்னும் தெரியல! தோல்வியை முழு மனதோடு ஒப்புக்கொள்வதே பெருந்தன்மை!

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 09:03 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

chennai vaazhnaNbargaLe - weekend varaikkum match thAngichunA, idhai pArthu polambAma, namma pEsAma iLam puyal Sadagoppan Ramesh nadicha pOttapOtti 50/50 pOlAm varrIngaLA?

yaaru, neengaLA? padam? adhuvum Hubbers kooda?

From: P_R on 11th August 2011 09:11 AM [Full View]

Fletcher ellAm ennAthukku thitreenga.
You go in with no prep. You have always excessively one one bowler - who is not playing (even if he had played Eng would have still won the series).
Sachin-Laxman not playing long innings - biggest disappointment of the tour thus far.
The up and coming player is a flop
Openers - whoever they are - do not give a start.

What does this have to do with Krishnan-Fletcher?
Seems to suggest that at the height of Kirsten's prowess- whenever that was - this team would have defeated this England team in England. Nevaire 'ngREn.

Anyway, on the positive side, Sehwag dismissal was a bit freakish wonly. So in second innings, if Gambhir and Sehwag give a good start, fourth leg-la yEdhAvadhu fightalaam.

From: P_R on 11th August 2011 09:13 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

No.1 namma kaila irundhu poradhai vida, English team no. 1 aaga poradhai ninaicha

koodiya seekkiram thennAppirikkAvukku pOgaNumnu vENdikkunga - adhu nadakkAdhu.... :repeatedly thumps right fist on left palm:

From: P_R on 11th August 2011 09:19 AM [Full View]

How many Ashes, how many international tournaments - scarred childhood.

Thorpe,Hick, Stewart knocks going in vain
Goughie consistency amounting to nothing
Caddick-Fraser bulldozing afternoons - not adding up to a series victories

Ashes 2005 was exhilarating. But they kinda squandered it after that.
These last two years have been dreamlike for a Eng fan. (I have no idea what happened in the WC - QF. This team did not deserve to crash out so badly.)

Most importantly their matches are all largely interesting to watch, pleasure to see those classical innings, bowling spells etc. It's a pity Swann hasn't fired yet - there is some turn here - let's see.

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 09:45 AM [Full View]

Relish it all for now PR, Eng can't hold it for even the 19 months India did. They are touring Pak in Dubai, SL in SL (Mar 12) and India in India from this year through next year. Lots of tough sub continental pitches where no-swing conditions/flat pitches and good batters of spin available.

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 09:47 AM [Full View]

Woke up just in time to see Gambhir getting bold and to see Tendulkar perish of Barbie bowling

. What a lousy shot.

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 09:54 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

ஏன் மாஸ்டர்! இங்கிலாந்தை இப்படி வெறுக்கிறீங்க! வெறுப்பு எல்லாவற்றையும் ஒதுக்கிவைத்து பாருங்கள். அப்போ தெரியும் ஆற்றலில், திறமையில், முயன்றுபார்க்கும் குணத்தில்.. நம்மை விட அவர்கள் எவ்வளவு தூரம் முன்னே இருக்கிறார்கள் என! அடி மேல அடி விழுந்துமா அவர்களோட ஆதிக்கம் இன்னும் தெரியல! தோல்வியை முழு மனதோடு ஒப்புக்கொள்வதே பெருந்தன்மை!

I accept they have completely outplayed us in this series. But they are not a superior team as everyone makes them out to be. Our team is totally out of sorts which made their job a lot more easy.

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 09:55 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

koodiya seekkiram thennAppirikkAvukku pOgaNumnu vENdikkunga - adhu nadakkAdhu.... :repeatedly thumps right fist on left palm:

As AF said, this Eng team is not going to last at no.1 position. Let's see how long they can hold to it

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 09:58 AM [Full View]

1999-00 Aussie series was much more rewarding. Loosu vennaiga madhiri aadikittu irukaanuga. Zaheer single handedly could have changed the results, at-least to draws. I repeat this English batting is nothing great it is just that the quality of attacks have been stinking low from our side. SA could have matched em much better than our lousy pacers. SA-Eng Series eppeppa?. Adhayavadhu paathu tholaikalaam. Like hubber karthi said this series is much depressing/disappointing than the riots.

But I have to concede that even when Eng comes to India, they may lose but they may not lose this badly.

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 10:13 AM [Full View]

Eng may win even in India. We just dont have test cricketers after the big 3 and Zaheer. To an extent, the Viru-Jai opening partnership cuts it.
Sreesanth is a test cricketer in the sense that he is no good for limited overs so tests dhAn orE gadhi.
Yes, England is the better test side. They might even win in Dubai, Colombo and India.

Basically, it is a question of who wants what. Majority of India(fans, administration, younger players) want limited overs glory. We have enough talent to win what we want to win.
England(fans, admin, players) want test glory. They have the talent to make it happen.

India has enough talent to develop a world-beating test team - if the players want it enough. Bu they don't.
England, similarly, have the talent for a Wold cup winning team - heck they already have a world cup - in Limited overs. Just that a lot of them prefer tests.

I concede. Bitterly. But I concede. England are a good test cricket team/squad/nation. Mark my words, they'll shut any remaining mouths in the sub-continent this winter. Bleddy truth!

From: wizzy on 11th August 2011 10:38 AM [Full View]

Can't see any team challenging this England team in any condition..The only chink might be the second spinner when they get to play on square turner or if Strauss decides to call it quits and there is showdown between Cook/KP but with Flower at the helm the transition will be well managed.
India's misery may extend upto OZ series looking at the way mitchell is bowling on dead wickets in SL, shudder to think of the backlash if we lose badly in OZ too.

From: kid-glove on 11th August 2011 10:43 AM [Full View]

England are the team to beat. Absolutely. I did say this weeks back. They're really really good.

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 11:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Siv.S

Prediction less than 225

Kalakkurael pongo..

From: raajarasigan on 11th August 2011 11:39 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

I have no idea what happened in the WC - QF. This team did not deserve to crash out so badly

England may be a team to beat in test matches but still in ODI's, they are nowhere a dominating force.. அவிங்க QF வந்ததே பெருசு...

From: kid-glove on 11th August 2011 11:44 AM [Full View]

Yeah. Trott is not going to be your typical ODI player. And his trott-trott innings vs SL typifies that. Besides vs SL in Colombo wasn't going to be easy. England were also physically & mentally tired after Ashes & all.. But if we use the same card for this series (after WC, IPL, Windies non-stop) they wouldn't accept it.

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 11:48 AM [Full View]

There was an article in 'The Hindu' regarding Eng ODI and T20 team. It was published days before the start of the WC. The author mentioned that England has never taken ODIs as serious cricket, let alone T20s. He also stated that if the team goes beyond the QF, it will be mainly due to the mistakes of other teams and not due to the greatness of the English team.

Finally, he was proved right.

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 11:50 AM [Full View]

Score card-ai paarthaa kOvam, vayitherichal, kaiyaalaagathanam ellam serndhu varudhu. Oru rendu wicket nEthu eduthirukka koodadhaa?

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

No.. We'l nail them today...

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 12:00 PM [Full View]

AB- neenga sonnapadi nadandhaa, ungaLa Plum avar selavula pOtta pOtti cinemakku weekend koottittu pOvaar

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 12:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adhu pattapatti plum....

Softy,

The name of the title has been changed to Potta Poatti.

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 12:59 PM [Full View]

I dont understand this 'Ball not pitching in line-LBW will not be given' rule. Is this applicable to spinners also? If yes, why shud they spin the ball? They can very well bowl the straight ones, right?

From: raajarasigan on 11th August 2011 01:06 PM [Full View]

Ajay, Outside the leg stick'la ball pitch aatchunna kandippa out kedaiyathu.. (both spin + pace).. outside the off'na, koduppaanga.. esp, deliberate pad without attempting a shot...

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 01:11 PM [Full View]

RR,

Then if a leggie is bowling to a right handed batsman, he wont get an LBW unless he bowls a 'googly'?

From: wizzy on 11th August 2011 02:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

RR,

Then if a leggie is bowling to a right handed batsman, he wont get an LBW unless he bowls a 'googly'?

The leggie can bowl a flipper which pitches inline and straightens..the basic idea behind not giving batsman out when the ball pitches outside leg is due to the blindspot which deters batsman from judging the line of the ball which is why right handed batsman will have a open stance whilst facing Wasim Akram or Warne

From: raajarasigan on 11th August 2011 02:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

RR,

Then if a leggie is bowling to a right handed batsman, he wont get an LBW unless he bowls a 'googly'?

not necessary.. he can still pitch in the leg stump and hit the off to get the LBW...

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 03:11 PM [Full View]

indha naal iniya naal... indhiyaavukku...

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 03:12 PM [Full View]

PR,

naanga sariya saapdaadhadhala dhaan odambu sariyillai'nu solrom...
neenga odambu sariyillaadhadhaala dhaan saapda mudiyala'nu solringa...

edhuvaa irundhaalum koodiya seekiram diagnosis result vandhadhum theriyum...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 03:40 PM [Full View]

Rain(heavy) is predicted for today and saturday around Birmingham area, so there is a chance that this match would be drawn!

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 03:42 PM [Full View]

Faramu, unga thalamaila oru gumbalai koottikittu pOi stadiumla riot paNNungaLEn?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Faramu, unga thalamaila oru gumbalai koottikittu pOi stadiumla riot paNNungaLEn?

oh apadi seithavathu India va kaapatra sollureengala ? bEsh bEsh romba nanNaruku

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

oh apadi seithavathu India va kaapatra sollureengala ? bEsh bEsh romba nanNaruku

ungalukku sariya puriyala paramu...
neenga epdiyum vaelai illaama vettiyaa dhaanae irukkeenga...
ipdiyaachum edhachum seinganu solraar...

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

illai. ungaLa riot-la matti vittu nAttukku nalladhu paNNalAmEngaRa nalleNNathula sonnEn...

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ungalukku sariya puriyala paramu...
neenga epdiyum vaelai illaama vettiyaa dhaanae irukkeenga...
ipdiyaachum edhachum seinganu solraar...

ivaru vERa periya rowdy adhu idhunnu dabba thattikittArla...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 03:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

ungalukku sariya puriyala paramu...
neenga epdiyum vaelai illaama vettiyaa dhaanae irukkeenga...
ipdiyaachum edhachum seinganu solraar...

yOv ungaluku vaayilia irunthu nallathondrum varathaa

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 04:00 PM [Full View]

நம்ம பரமுதானே? என்ன சொன்னாலும் தாங்குவாருன்னு அப்படி போஸ்ட் பண்ணிருப்பாரு. விடுங்க சார்..

From: MADDY on 11th August 2011 04:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

yOv ungaluku vaayilia irunthu nallathondrum varathaa

night avaru room-kku ponga, adichha beer ellam vaandhiya varum

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 04:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

yOv ungaluku vaayilia irunthu nallathondrum varathaa

unmaya dhane sonen...
officela vettiyaa irukkadhaala dhaanae inga time pass panradha neenga dhane adikkadi solveenga...

From: MADDY on 11th August 2011 04:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

illai. ungaLa riot-la matti vittu nAttukku nalladhu paNNalAmEngaRa nalleNNathula sonnEn...

endha naattukku??

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

night avaru room-kku ponga, adichha beer ellam vaandhiya varum

....

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 04:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

....

paramu,
nakkalaa...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

நம்ம பரமுதானே? என்ன சொன்னாலும் தாங்குவாருன்னு அப்படி போஸ்ட் பண்ணிருப்பாரு. விடுங்க சார்..

சரீங்க சார்

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

paramu,
nakkalaa...

வாந்தி எடுக்க தான் குடிப்பதென்றால் அத குடிக்காமலே இருக்கலாமே

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

situational song for Vadivel sir http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiOjFhDmTY&feature=player_detailpage

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

வாந்தி எடுக்க தான் குடிப்பதென்றால் அத குடிக்காமலே இருக்கலாமே

paramu, appo edhukku saapidrom...?

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 04:22 PM [Full View]

Paramu,

Why dont u come down to India and attend a hubbers' meet?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Paramu,

Why dont u come down to India and attend a hubbers' meet?

Hi Ajay,

Do u remember in the Travel section of the hub, I said I will be coming next year , I will certainly inform all of you when I am there and we could meet up

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 04:27 PM [Full View]

rain delay, rain prediction-nnu solraanga, should be tough to bat in overcast conditions, wicket onnum vizha mattEngudhE!

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

rain delay, rain prediction-nnu solraanga, should be tough to bat in overcast conditions, wicket onnum vizha mattEngudhE!

Maami,
itha thaan naa munadi sonEn, heavy rain for birmingham today , light rain tomorrow and heavy again on Saturday

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 04:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Hi Ajay,

Do u remember in the Travel section of the hub, I said I will be coming next year , I will certainly inform all of you when I am there and we could meet up

Oh.. Super.. Neraiya arrangements pannanum. Oru 15 days munnadiye sollidunga..

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Oh.. Super.. Neraiya arrangements pannanum. Oru 15 days munnadiye sollidunga..

Ok No problem

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Ajay enna arrangements paththi solRArunnu theriyamalE ok solRIngaLE faramu.

Ajay to Maddy: poruL ellAm readya irukkA? Faramu Aug 18ku varrApla. planlAm gunA irukkaNum
Maddy: Gun dhAnE. arrange paNNidaREn

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 04:49 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

paramu, appo edhukku saapidrom...?

:rotfll:

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Ajay enna arrangements paththi solRArunnu theriyamalE ok solRIngaLE faramu.

Ajay to Maddy: poruL ellAm readya irukkA? Faramu Aug 18ku varrApla. planlAm gunA irukkaNum
Maddy: Gun dhAnE. arrange paNNidaREn

parama nerla paatthanganaa... avara adikka maattaanga... indha appaaviya poi adikka vandhomae thalaila adichukkuvaanga...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 04:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Ajay to Maddy: poruL ellAm readya irukkA? Faramu Aug 18ku varrApla. planlAm gunA irukkaNum
Maddy: Gun dhAnE. arrange paNNidaREn

Flau annE

Intha Gun ellam enaku rusk saapidara mathiri, naa 7 vayasilaiye AK-47 thooki paathutEn

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 05:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

parama nerla paatthanganaa... avara adikka maattaanga... indha appaaviya poi adikka vandhomae thalaila adichukkuvaanga...

தெய்வமே

From: mgb on 11th August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Hi Ajay,

Do u remember in the Travel section of the hub, I said I will be coming next year , I will certainly inform all of you when I am there and we could meet up

epdi? may 2010 london varumbodhu enakku call panrennu sonningale, adhu madhiriya ?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by mgb

epdi? may 2010 london varumbodhu enakku call panrennu sonningale, adhu madhiriya ?

Sorry Ganesh na , appo na london la illa, aama neenga ippo engE irukeenga ? I sent you a PM, I was contracting that time and I was constantly moving between Birmingham and Oxfor, while you were in London

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

.....

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 05:07 PM [Full View]

Oh.. Idhu veraya? Verum build up mattumthaana?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

Ajay

Build up ellam illa

,

Guys lets continue in CC too much digressions here

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 06:00 PM [Full View]

I've never got so depressed watching our guys play. What the hell has happened to this team

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 11th August 2011 06:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I've never got so depressed watching our guys play. What the hell has happened to this team

Same for me here....has been a pathetic show from our boys.

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:07 PM [Full View]

Digression is the best pain-killer Master, vandhu Digression Jothila aikkiyam aagunga!

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 06:15 PM [Full View]

Assuming England takes the series 4-0, India will come to 2nd rank or even worse?

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 06:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Digression is the best pain-killer Master, vandhu Digression Jothila aikkiyam aagunga!

exactly!!!

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 06:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Assuming England takes the series 4-0, India will come to 2nd rank or even worse?

3rd. Ranking kidakkudhu. 4-0 loss-na peruttha avamaanam

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Assuming England takes the series 4-0, India will come to 2nd rank or even worse?

thalaikku mEla veLLam pOnaa jaan enna muzham enna?

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

exactly!!!

Naane digress panni naane adhai move pannanum. Thevaiya

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

Long weekend, edhaachum short meet arrange seiyyalaamaa Chennai Hubbers (Those who are available)?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 11th August 2011 06:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Assuming England takes the series 4-0, India will come to 2nd rank or even worse?

They can slip down to 3, depending on how SA plays their next match

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Naane digress panni naane adhai move pannanum. Thevaiya

neengaLE code ezhudhi neengaLE test seiyyara maadhiri. idhellaam jagajamdhaanE!

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 06:22 PM [Full View]

when u slip from 1, it doesn matter u become 2 or 3.

sathya,
why long weekend?

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Long weekend, edhaachum short meet arrange seiyyalaamaa Chennai Hubbers (Those who are available)?

Post in meet thread. Hope few more guys come forward.

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

Aug 15th Independence Day

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:23 PM [Full View]

Sat, Sunday already leave.. Monday is Independence day..

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:24 PM [Full View]

Indha rendu perumthaan formla illaama irundhaanga!!

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:25 PM [Full View]

मेरा भारत महान.

From: SoftSword on 11th August 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Aug 15th Independence Day

i was remembering it this morning... but it din click to me when u said leave.

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 06:43 PM [Full View]

Bhajji will be happy looking at Mishra's performance.

Innum 5 varushathukku Bhajji place-ai team-la adichuka mudiyaadhu.

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

vaikkOl out

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

When will the next wicket fall? tomorrow?

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 06:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

When will the next wicket fall? tomorrow?

naama ippadiyE bowling pOttu adutha 3 naaLum 3 wicket edukkalaam, namma bowling paarthu Eng will forget to declare and match draw

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 06:50 PM [Full View]

Going back to the Strauss dismissal, replays coming in now show that Mishra had overstepped! Simon Taufel, one of the best umpires around, missed it.

idhu vereyaa

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:51 PM [Full View]

Mishra has already bowled quite a few nbs..

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

Strauss and co: pankajavalli ambujanetri....

Dhoni, Raina and Mishra: (voodu kattudhal)
Dei yAru dA adhu pankajathai paththi pAdaRadhu. En mangaLathai paththi pAdungadA
Strauss mangaLam kadaisila dhAnEnnA pAduvA?
Dhoni: ellAm oNNu dhAn, ippOvE paDu.oOoooooooooo

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 06:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Going back to the Strauss dismissal, replays coming in now show that Mishra had overstepped! Simon Taufel, one of the best umpires around, missed it.

idhu vereyaa

Dhoni to Dravid: Appo kandippa tea timela Strauss'um Flower'um dressing roomukku varuvaanunga.. Pesaama groundleye engeyaachum oramaa nikkalaam.

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

People were mocking me when I said that Bhajji's centuries against NZ will cost us hugely. Adhu uNmaiyAnadhula oru kuroora sandhOsham

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

Eng goes past our total with 9 wickets in hand

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 07:20 PM [Full View]

With each passing test, England's win is becoming more and more convincing

From: scorpio on 11th August 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

Dravid drops a catch

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

Idhula catch miss vera..

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 07:28 PM [Full View]

64.5
sreesanth to bell, no run, 130.8 kph, sums up india's day. Dravid drops a simple catch in the slips. This must be gutting for dravid, for dhoni and for india. Sree gets bell to edge an away seamer from the crease. Tentative prod, and the ball loops straight at dravid though it is dying on him. He got both hands to it as it came through at shin to ankle height. And it pops out. Seemed to hit the top of the palms, near the wrists, as opposed to the cupped hands. He's put down quite a few in recent times.

omg!!!!!!!!!!

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 07:35 PM [Full View]

A reader comment from CricInfo..

What a waste of time - getting Bell out, then calling him back, then addressing media in the evening stating reason. Better, drop the catch!

From: raghavendran on 11th August 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

didnt even watch one full over...mokka boyz...Mankaatha songs and tralier--orders of the day

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 07:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by venkkiram

A reader comment from CricInfo..

From: ajaybaskar on 11th August 2011 08:00 PM [Full View]

Cricinfo: At this rate cook might be the first batsmen to make hundred international hundreds.

Mothame 20 centurythaan adichurukkaan. Idhula lolla paaru, egaththaalatha paaru!!!

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

சமையற்காரன் நல்லாவே சமைக்கிரானப்பு!

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

கிறுக்கனுங்க அத்து மீறி போறானுங்க.

No-ball Mishra continues.

From: P_R on 11th August 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

England WC QF vandhadhE perusu??

They were semifinalists vs. Aus (the winners) in the champions trophy
They defeated South Africa in South Africa
In 2010 they played a only-ODIs home series versus Australia in England and won the series
They defeated Pakistan at home. If anything it is Pak's QF qualification in the WC was the actual surprise - but for some reason ppl. are surprised by England's!

They got roundly beated by Aus in the post Ashes ODI series of course - which I guess is the only thing people remembered.
But they did not play Broad, Bresnan, Swann in that series, remember?
And there too remember - a couple of the matches they lost went down to the wire. So it's not as if they were a dabbA team as you guys are saying.

They were strong contenders when getting into the WC.
I still think the best match in the WC was the SA-Eng match in Chennai. Fantastic contest. All nerves - which Eng WC match wasn't! Batting, bowling, fielding, captaincy skills were put to the test. Strauss's fielding-bowling changes stood out in several occasions in the WC. And better team as SL might have been - surely England was not so bad as to lose by 10 wickets. That's for sure.

And they did manage to win the series against the selfsame SL didn't they...albeit in England.

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 08:29 PM [Full View]

India won tests against all and sundry. #1 ranking. Losing 4-0 now.
Adhukku?

No excuses please. England were lucky to make the QFs. India will be lucky not to lose this series _ forget 4-0 - even 3-1

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

What's shocking is Dhoni's captaincy unravelling so badly. Even his worst critics would not have expected that short of one pace bowler, India will be so poor. This should have been his final crown. Not a banana skin.

From: venkkiram on 11th August 2011 08:46 PM [Full View]

ரன் மழையா பொழியுது. கடைசி பத்து ஓவரில் சராசரி ஒரு ஓவருக்கு 6.3 ரன்கள்..

From: wizzy on 11th August 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

England WC QF vandhadhE perusu??

They were semifinalists vs. Aus (the winners) in the champions trophy
They defeated South Africa in South Africa
In 2010 they played a only-ODIs home series versus Australia in England and won the series
They defeated Pakistan at home. If anything it is Pak's QF qualification in the WC was the actual surprise - but for some reason ppl. are surprised by England's!

They got roundly beated by Aus in the post Ashes ODI series of course - which I guess is the only thing people remembered.
But they did not play Broad, Bresnan, Swann in that series, remember?
And there too remember - a couple of the matches they lost went down to the wire. So it's not as if they were a dabbA team as you guys are saying.

They were strong contenders when getting into the WC.
I still think the best match in the WC was the SA-Eng match in Chennai. Fantastic contest. All nerves - which Eng WC match wasn't! Batting, bowling, fielding, captaincy skills were put to the test. Strauss's fielding-bowling changes stood out in several occasions in the WC. And better team as SL might have been - surely England was not so bad as to lose by 10 wickets. That's for sure.

And they did manage to win the series against the selfsame SL didn't they...albeit in England.

A team which lost to Bangladesh and Ireland is a strong contender for the world cup title

The match in chennai was classic example of proteas choking. England is/was a poor odi side..
with ODI being played on patta wickets the contests are won mostly by teams who bat well.

How many English batsman have scored more than 5k runs in limited over or their bowlers with more than 200 wickets? England have historically never been a good odi side save for the 1992 worldcup team and the team of bits and pieces under Adam Hollioake which won in subcontinent.

From: raajarasigan on 11th August 2011 09:13 PM [Full View]

P_R, to win a WC, England need to win matches consistently.. i.e. at least 3 matches on a trot.. if you look at the way they entered QF, they were never dominating.. though they had surprised SA, they still struggled against Ireland.. the fact is, they can't carry forward any momentum from their wins which is absolutely necessary to win a tournament like WC..

we can't judge a team with a bi-lateral series.. even bangladesh whitewashed NZ....

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 09:40 PM [Full View]

Very well said.

Originally Posted by wizzy

A team which lost to Bangladesh and Ireland is a strong contender for the world cup title

The match in chennai was classic example of proteas choking. England is/was a poor odi side..
with ODI being played on patta wickets the contests are won mostly by teams who bat well.

How many English batsman have scored more than 5k runs in limited over or their bowlers with more than 200 wickets? England have historically never been a good odi side save for the 1992 worldcup team and the team of bits and pieces under Adam Hollioake which won in subcontinent.

From: Plum on 11th August 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

idhu dhAn England fans kitta. indha varusham jeyichadhai vechchu enna solvAngannA pOna varusham nadandhadhellAm kanavu - nAnga dhAn jeyichOm, nInga kanavula jeyichuttu record book-ai mAtththittInga; illainA nInga wasteu ivLO nALA luck-la mEla irundhInga apdinna vENdiyadhu.

Non-emotionally-attached, non-patriotic fans-E ipdinnA, imagine the all-england patriot fans.

We need to bite the bullet, and embrace the australians to divide and rule the Aussies and Englishmen now.

From: wizzy on 11th August 2011 10:17 PM [Full View]

Pk is a workhorse..a guy playing his 6th test is our main strike bowler..about time we looked beyond madsanth/munaf in tests.

From: sathya_1979 on 11th August 2011 10:21 PM [Full View]

Cricket is also like a project - The good workers put in their heart, soul and hard work to cover for the inefficiencies of their team mates. But, the non-performers are the ones who generally remain in the spotlight. The good performers get fed-up and break-down due to over work or quit!

From: wizzy on 11th August 2011 10:32 PM [Full View]

Sreesanth should have called it quits the moment cochin coconuts dropped him from playing 11. Never seen a sportsman whose play is influenced by the moon.

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 10:50 PM [Full View]

Sharma to Morgan, 1 run, 129.8 kph, dropped dropped dropped. Oh dear. Wide delivery that Morgan sliced straight to Sreesanth who spilled a very simple chance. Eeep

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:14 PM [Full View]

Inimae ODI thaan ... Intha match innings defeat ah irukum polavae

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Pk is a workhorse..a guy playing his 6th test is our main strike bowler..about time we looked beyond madsanth/munaf in tests.

exactly. Pity this guy. He never hesitate to bowl whenever his captain asks him to. True commitment

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:24 PM [Full View]

114.1
Raina to Morgan, no run, 89.2 kph, oh no! Dravid drops it. Aw dear. Morgan pushed outside off and the man with the most catches in Test history spills the edge. He threw his cap down in anger and it's actually rather sad

Azhuguratha sirikiraatha !!!

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 11:25 PM [Full View]

Raina to Morgan, no run, 89.2 kph, oh no! Dravid drops it. Aw dear. Morgan pushed outside off and the man with the most catches in Test history spills the edge. He threw his cap down in anger and it's actually rather sad

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 11:26 PM [Full View]

Who asked Sreesanth to stand at point

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 11:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Raina to Morgan, no run, 89.2 kph, oh no! Dravid drops it. Aw dear. Morgan pushed outside off and the man with the most catches in Test history spills the edge. He threw his cap down in anger and it's actually rather sad

How many catches should Dravid drop for Dhoni to realise he shouldn't be in slips.

From: ajithfederer on 11th August 2011 11:29 PM [Full View]

I am happy now that we at-least won the WC. WC -um thothu poyi idhuvum nasama poirundha suttham

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

How many catches should Dravid drop for Dhoni to realise he shouldn't be in slips.

I have the same question. Is there no one else to stand in slips or antha edam Dravidoda appa soththa

? What abt Sachin / Laxman ??? Dravid has past his prime in catching. He has become very poor in slips.

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I am happy now that we at-least won the WC. WC -um thothu poyi idhuvum nasama poirundha suttham

I am happy that WC happens once in 4 years

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th August 2011 11:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

I have the same question. Is there no one else to stand in slips or antha edam Dravidoda appa soththa

? What abt Sachin / Laxman ??? Dravid has past his prime in catching. He has become very poor in slips.

He regularly drops 1 or 2 catches in every match these days. I don't blame Dravid here as his reflexes won't be the same as 2 years back. Team management should realise it's time to groom someone else for that position.

From: VinodKumar's on 11th August 2011 11:46 PM [Full View]

Our fielding has gone back to 90's standard. Sema mokka fielding and sema mokka body language. Shewag/Gambhir la mutti poda solli slip catching practice kudukanum.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 12:05 AM [Full View]

England are the new Australia
Australia are the new India
Lanka are the new Windies(21st century version)
Windies are the new Bangladesh
Bangla are the new Kenya
Pakistan, as always is Pakistan, as is NZ.

India?
Brace yourselves LM - because we are the new England

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 12:07 AM [Full View]

Point to note: this will be Duncan Fletcher's EIGHTH test loss in a row.

How did we believe this pied piper of hamelin will lead us to glory? I wasn't convinced then. I ain't now.

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 12:27 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Point to note: this will be Duncan Fletcher's EIGHTH test loss in a row.

How did we believe this pied piper of hamelin will lead us to glory? I wasn't convinced then. I ain't now.

9 in a row confirmed !!!

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 12:35 AM [Full View]

Yeah real mature. Blaming the coach.

From: V_S on 12th August 2011 12:36 AM [Full View]

Good point Plum!

Have we ever played like this earlier. I could not recall any series like this. Even losses are acceptable, even 4-0 or whatever, but the way this series has gone, is so humiliating. There is no respect in losing. I can understand if a team getting test status just from this series and playing like this. But not India. Suddenly such a big dip. There is no resistance from either department of our team, batting and bowling, consider fielding too. They are scoring easily and merrily. We are scoring easily, but at the same time we are giving away wickets too easily and merrily.

Even in the practice match, we were unable to play, they made more runs than us. I don't know what to say except to be embarrassed.

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 01:46 AM [Full View]

Did Fletcher ask Sehwag to postpone his surgery? ask Zak to be unfit after taking a break for 40 days? ask Sachin to skip the windies tour and come to England cold without playing a test match for close to 8 months? ask Sreesanth/Ishant to string a spell by bowling short or straying on the pads?Don't think Fletcher can even name all the 16 players in the squad

We got cleaned up by SA in India for less than 100 when Kirsten was the coach.

India aren't good enough to challenge this England side and most of our players seem to be mentally gone.
Bangladesh put up a better show than us and SL with 5 batsman crossed 400 twice. India needed this jolt in test cricket to make sure the transition happens as it did in ODIs after the 2007 worldcup debacle.

A whitewash should serve India over the long run and with the no.1 tag off our backs we should look to build a team which could be a force in 2 years time.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 01:50 AM [Full View]

Some sanity prevails at-least now. Well said(again) wizzy.

That's the crux of this tour.

Bangladesh put up a better show than us and SL with 5 batsman crossed 400 twice. India needed this jolt in test cricket to make sure the transition happens as it did in ODIs after the 2007 worldcup debacle.

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 02:38 AM [Full View]

I did not blame coach here. I feel bad for him to fail like this in the first big assignment. In this tour our players look like directionless. Everyone is searching for their own form and it doesnt help them to motivate the other players. Frankly I thought Sachin and laxman ( not including Dravid as he himself doesnt look confident these days) would carry the entire team in this series with all their experience but they themselves struggling

This series is gone. Hope to see refreshed team in Australia.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 06:46 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

India won tests against all and sundry. #1 ranking.

No they didn't. innoru naaL pEsuvOm.

Originally Posted by Plum

No excuses please. England were lucky to make the QFs.

After losing to Ire and Ban they were lucky to make to QF - appidinnu sonneengannA sure I agree.

OTOH if you they were non-contenders to begin with, losing to Ire/Ban was the kind of performance expected from them, it was surprising they made it to the last eight - appidinneengannA - I disagree.

idhula excuse enga vandhudhu?

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 06:58 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

A team which lost to Bangladesh and Ireland is a strong contender for the world cup title

Yeah all I am saying is the results and Ire and Ban were the surprises. Not the fact Eng got into the QF.
I get the impression you are all saying that even at the time they entered the competition, QF was the best Eng could have hoped for.

I find that largely missing the growth in stature of the England unit in the last couple of years.

Originally Posted by wizzy

The match in chennai was classic example of proteas choking. England is/was a poor odi side..

Proteas were strangled into Choking by Strauss.
Just like Eng is a far better test side than they have ever been in recent times, the current ODI team is far better than their earlier sides.
I am not claiming they are as dominant in ODI as they are (and will be :P ) in tests. But to summarily write off the current Eng ODI side as just an extension of Hollioake, Hussain dabbA sides is something I disagree with.

Of course they had problems. When they had an onslaught attack they cracked. Like O'Brien showed in Bangalore. Strauss was clueless. And they just couldn't break that pesky partnership in Bangladesh. But in EVERY SINGLE MATCH, they kept coming back, kept attacking, making tactical changes that won them thriller after thriller. Which is why I found the margin of defeat against SL in the QF not at all representative of the difference between the two teams.

Originally Posted by wizzy

with ODI being played on patta wickets the contests are won mostly by teams who bat well.

Which is why I picked the Chennai match as an example where there was a true contest.

Originally Posted by wizzy

England have historically never been a good odi side save for the 1992 worldcup team and the team of bits and pieces under Adam Hollioake which won in subcontinent.

adhellAm theriyin. But to think this team is no different from the previous England teams - is a sweep. I am being ominous here

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:13 AM [Full View]

I'll admit I am one of the vast many who strongly felt India's stay at the top was a statistical curiosity.
But then I don't watch cricket that closely nowadays so I found the argument that: 'India are number 1, but the second is not far away' quite sensible.
Perhaps when we thought of number 1, we were used to thinking of Aus type dominant first.

Looking back, now I think, there were many cases where India may have had a chance to dominate the series - but were done in by stupid '2 test' formats. I guess for the statistics of ranking it does not matter (it should). But I kinda get why I didn't "feel" the team coming together as a unit and performing thoroughly for a long series.

India

1) We defeated NZ in NZ and became World # 1 (was it then?) - but still the margin should have been larger considering what a dabbA team NZ was.
2) We defeated SL at home and that's perhaps the one time we felt like the World Number 1 team. Resolutely thulped them.
3) We could not defeat South Africa at home - but that's also because we had a stupid two match series. If we atleast had three matches, I think, we had the momentum going to go win it.
4) We went to SL and could not defeat them - we struggled to square it actually. Didn't feel #1 at all.
5) Defeated Australia at home - we comprehensively stomped them. They performed worse than they actually were! Even though it was only a two match series, we demonstrated dominance.
6) Defeated NZ at home - though the last match was comprehensively won; we should not have puffed and panted in the first two matches against such a dabbA team. So almost immediately after Australia series, it did not look like we were dominant.
7) Could not defeat SA in SA - though the series was drawn, India felt like the team working to manage a draw.

Eng

1) Lost to WI in WI -
one freakshow innings in the first test was all it took to lose them the series. They never recovered from the Jerome Taylor's attack.
WI just escaped with a wicket to draw a match, which they were not in a position to win from Day 1
Last test was again almost won by England
England was very very unlucky to have one test cancelled and then one SSC style mottai pitch for vetti batting
So in the end, though, WI did indeed win the series - my heart went out to England who were undoubtedly the better side in the series. But these are exactly the things that make cricket the excellent game that it is !

2) Invited WI home and thulped them - one 10 wicket win and one innings win.
3) Ashes in England- fortunes juggles but Swann arrived and won them the Ashes
4) Eng in SA
- Hung by their teeth to save the first test - disappointment for the likes of me
- Handed SA an innings defeat - now that's more like it
- once again fought hard to manage a last wicket draw
- suffered innings defeat
Though the end credits were even - clearly SA was the more dominant team and Eng was on the backfoot.
5) Pak in Eng - convincing and unsurprising win.
- Fast bowlers dismissed Pak in double figures twice or thrice. Now that is more dominant than I expected. Usually it used to happen the other way round

6)All geared for the Ashes
Eng in Aus - rubbed Aussie noses on the ground. I know Aus lost to India etc. But Aus in Aus is another animal. I don't think many Indian fans would really claim that, India would have defeated Aus so comprehensively in Aus.
7) SL in Eng - never in danger!

Test of this team would be in the subcontinent and against SAFrica - even at home, SA will be a tough series, let's see.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:19 AM [Full View]

The find of the tour for me is Ganguly.
He didn't get much air time earlier during the WC..or I wasn't listening.

He invariably has something insightful to say, delightful sense of humour -without being clownish, doesn't pussyfoot around expressing his opinions clearly ('that's a regulation catch' - he said for the one Sachin missed yesterday. Others weren't quite saying that'). Possibly the most impressive Indian commentator around

Nasser: Oh Sachin is in, he's bowling off breaks...but you never know the next one may be a legbreak
Sourav: No..two left handers out there
avvaLavu dhaan....just cut him short with something crisp and sound.

Why is Sreeshanth fielding at point, with two left handers and Ishanth -who moves it away - bowling, particularly when you have Raina and Kohli on the field.

One sentence. Packs it with sense. Others hem and haw to say something half as useful.

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 07:50 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

How many catches should Dravid drop for Dhoni to realise he shouldn't be in slips.

Dhoni: avan thirundhittaan-nnu avane sonnanga

LM, too much this - if dhoni had removed dravid and kept someone else, u and plum wud have said, only dhoni fossible to remove a man from slips who has taken most catches in tests........

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:06 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

I'll admit I am one of the vast many who strongly felt India's stay at the top was a statistical curiosity

PR, ranking systems around the world sports have matured and got quite advanced sometimes beyond the comprehension of experts too........Wozniaki in women's tennis was no.1 without winning a gramdslam

, so no.1 ranking nowadays mean more of complex algorithms that calculates consistency over a period of time........i feel this is the best method since we cant choose no.1 based on our "assumptions" and India did exactly what ranking algorithms needed for a no.1......

India's biggest test was this series which was dubbed as clash for no.1 - wat a shame - and India were comprehensively beaten and lose no.1 ranking to England.............but i dont see how this England team can win even a single test against India in India..........but yes, England are a much better side than they were but India have come leaps and bounds too........infact growth of India is the biggest story of this and last decade which is what English are unable to digest.........WI of 70s happened between 76-83, Steve waugh's Aussies happened between 2000-07...in between, there were no.1s but with lot of contradictions.......we have to wait for a long time to get teams of that quality again - until then we will have no.1s who can lose to no.3,4's pretty badly too

From: raghavendran on 12th August 2011 08:10 AM [Full View]

Dhoni has been poor as a captain this series..his field placings lacks thinking behind it..his mentality vazhga --he didnt want Ishant to bowl at Pietersen's middle stump when he is walking across because he is scared that he will concede a boundary down the legs..shaba mudiyala,yella vattiyum yedavudhu nadakuma enna?...chumma he is waiting for things to happen..honesty ellam ok but konjam yosikanum...and the Indian players never once gave a feeling that they are playing with intensity..T.Vla pakkara nambalukke veruppa irukku...

From: raghavendran on 12th August 2011 08:15 AM [Full View]

MADDY
Agree with PR..this ranking count the home or wins in subcontinent and the abroad wins as one..thats not rite...they are just wins thats it..thats how SL are at the top too...Indian cricket's improvement was in Ganguly's period where all the draws and the one off wins abroad seemed big because of our past experiences..i never felt Dhoni's team has taken it forward..only win in NZ that too not convincing...atleast Ganguly's team had the mighty aussies to combat with..not comparing both captains..just telling that this team hasnt done enough to be called no.1..England atleast won the ashes in aus..can you tell me India's great perofrmance outside subcontinent?

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:16 AM [Full View]

Maddy ennai En izhukkaRInga? Dhoni is a sitting duck in this series for criticism...who has been criticising him much? Indha seriesla oru match jeyichirundhaa kooda the eulogies would have been flowing for him.
Imagine Ganguly or even Dravid losing a test series 4-0 or even 3-1 and imagine what abuse they'd have copped. Dhoni has only received sympathy. Rightfully so.

FeeyarE, adhellAm sari. Destiny is with your team. Steyn getting injured when they go to SA. Zaheer when india visit. When destiny is acting like Sri Ramachandra moorthy from behind the trees at Vaali, yes England supporters can talk now.
India lost 2-1 contentiously to a team with Gilly and still in the high of Ashes 5-0.
England beat a team that lost even Katich, a half-decent performer, to injury. And not to mention the bowling. And softened up by S Africa and Duminy the previous year.

I'll have more respect if they had broken through against the best. Test cricket is declining elsewhere. England is rising. Quite apt, I say. They'll be #1 for years now but not much to celbrate there.

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:17 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

Dhoni has been poor as a captain this series..his field placings lacks thinking behind it..his mentality vazhga --

not defending Dhoni here but field placing correct-a vechhittaalum

From: raghavendran on 12th August 2011 08:18 AM [Full View]

...they way they fielded...bring back Sadagoppan ramesh i say

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:19 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

MADDY
Agree with PR..this ranking count the home or wins in subcontinent and the abroad wins as one..thats not rite...they are just wins thats it..thats how SL are at the top too...Indian cricket's improvement was in Ganguly's period where all the draws and the one off wins abroad seemed big because of our past experiences..i never felt Dhoni's team has taken it forward..only win in NZ that too not convincing...atleast Ganguly's team had the mighty aussies to combat with..not comparing both captains..just telling that this team hasnt done enough to be called no.1..England atleast won the ashes in aus..can you tell me India's great perofrmance outside subcontinent?

no.1 ranking nowadays mean more of complex algorithms that calculates consistency over a period of time........i feel this is the best method since we cant choose no.1 based on our "assumptions" and India did exactly what ranking algorithms needed for a no.1......

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From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:21 AM [Full View]

Forget South Africa, whem Ricky, Mitchell and co. Come back for the Ashes next year, appO irukku Cook and co.ku. Neeya naana pArthuduvOm. For the first time in my life, I will be rooting for Ricky.

From: raghavendran on 12th August 2011 08:23 AM [Full View]

MADDY
adhu edho kolarungren...whether they are playing good cricket or not can be said by watching them play rather than blindly going by rankings..

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:23 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy ennai En izhukkaRInga?

Parthiban Kanavu scene
monica: en ya, en iduppa pudichha
Vivek in MGR like tone: oru gripkku

Originally Posted by Plum

Imagine Ganguly or even Dravid losing a test series 4-0 or even 3-1 and imagine what abuse they'd have copped. Dhoni has only received sympathy. Rightfully so

more than the grip, i think i was right in pulling ur name

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:28 AM [Full View]

And the corrupt Pakis hadn't sold out, Braod would not have had a 169 to save his place this year and not only that. Asif and Aamir would have ended a few batting careers with 6 career-debilitating bowling innings
Bleddy pakis.

As I said, what is annoying is England's retrospective claim "we were always deserving #1, india were pretenders" claim reflected by PR now.

Nilai uyarum bodhu paNivu kondAl ulagam unnai vaNangum
England supportersku idhu theriya vAippillayE ofcourse

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:28 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

MADDY
adhu edho kolarungren...whether they are playing good cricket or not can be said by watching them play rather than blindly going by rankings..

i find assumptions and "our" evaluation of team's performances much more blind than computer algorithms which are calculating points objectively.......i think we have to A2D on manual evaluation and computer based evaluation.....

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:31 AM [Full View]

Maddy, that doesn't fly. Nobody has criticised Dhoni much here. Oru emotionla LM oru minor criticism - when he is losing a series 4-0 or 3-1 at best - on a minor magtter, ungalaala ennai izhuththu accuse pannaama irukka mudiyala? How fair is that?

From: raghavendran on 12th August 2011 08:35 AM [Full View]

to tell that this team hasnt performed outside subcontinent is not very complex...CG work ellam thevai illa for this..obviously it doesnt show how we have struggled on the filed playing Test cricket..glad that we wont be the NO.1 after this series...illena adhuku oru gumbal vandhu India dont deserve to be NO1 sollum...adhu varaikkum the ranking is helping.thats good

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:42 AM [Full View]

India never dominate a series - not since the pitch-doctoring of Azhar days - it is just the way we are.
England, Aus et al are good at cashing when the going is good. For example, Laxman was playing beautifully but gave away his wicket. Cook/Ponti will never do that. This is how it is. So, 4-0, 3-0 don't prove much to me. That's the historic nature of these teams respectively.

If we are talking about quality, when the ball was moving, Cook failed - against Paki last year and in the first two tests here. In Aus, he cashed against bowlers like Hilgy who do nothing but bang in the ball. This makes him a wonderful test batsman?
England is good when the opposition is bad.
Glenn, Shane, Sachin(ver 1998 or 2010), Ricky(version 2004) - wish you were here to bust the myth about this England side. Too bad we don't have enough players of that quality to expose this English pretenders - I mean English, Saffer and Irish.

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:45 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

to tell that this team hasnt performed outside subcontinent is not very complex.

can u arrive at "ur current no1." and i can show their weaknesses..........have SA won in India apart from 00?? have Eng ever won in India??? have Australia won in India apart from '04?? picture this: England defeated India 4-0 but India defeated WI 1-0 again WI defeated England - so manual evaluation is something i disagree here........India played badly in England and have lost the no.1 place - but still they are a very good side undergoing a bad series, thats it......

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:55 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy, that doesn't fly. Nobody has criticised Dhoni much here. Oru emotionla LM oru minor criticism - when he is losing a series 4-0 or 3-1 at best - on a minor magtter, ungalaala ennai izhuththu accuse pannaama irukka mudiyala? How fair is that?

what is the accusation here - i dont understand.....i just told u guys are sharp critics of Dhoni and ur statement surmising that Dhoni gets leniency whereas Gangu and Rahul havent got is clear reflection of this - avalavudhaan

......

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:59 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i dont see how this England team can win even a single test against India in India.

Noted. We will meet in court !

Originally Posted by raghavendran

Agree with PR..this ranking count the home or wins in subcontinent and the abroad wins as one..thats not rite...

ayyA naan appadi ellAm sollalai. I was only talking about duration. Winning a longer series should count more (I think and hope it does). But home/away should not matter. All conditions should have equal weight.

Steyn getting injured when they go to SA.

Eh? Steyn did play the test series, right? And they drew that. Anyway, they didn't win. So looking forward to upcoming clashes with SA.

Originally Posted by Plum

England beat a team that lost even Katich, a half-decent performer, to injury. And not to mention the bowling. And softened up by S Africa and Duminy the previous year

Don't overrate the Ashes 'ndreenga. Rightu.
Are you claiming this (or any recent) Indian team could have beaten that very weak Aus team in Aus like that- really?

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 09:00 AM [Full View]

I claim that South Africa are the strongest test cricketing nation in the world. How?
South Africa 'A' team is beating the current World #1 fair and square. HeelsE ivLO perusunnA...

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 09:11 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

And the corrupt Pakis hadn't sold out, Braod would not have had a 169 to save his place this year and not only that.

Oh kamfaarm-A

Spot fixing not match fixing -nu ellAm sonnAinga.

Broad's fantastic innings was all thanks to poi bowling is it?

Originally Posted by Plum

As I said, what is annoying is England's retrospective claim "we were always deserving #1, india were pretenders" claim reflected by PR now.

AyyA... I have been singing praises for this English team for more than a year. So it is not just retrospective looking back from this series win.

Just that - and there is no nice way to this - I find it surprising that nearly everyone around me is surprised by the thrashing England is dealing out to India now.

maththapadi 1,2,3 ellAm I have clearly stated that- though it seemed odd to me - I find it a completely reasonable argument that India was a kind of first among a closely contested top-spot. In fact I had explained India may have 'extended' its lead if only we played longer series instead of shorter ones.

i.e. my claim is NOT that Eng should have been #1 - which is by definition statistically calculated - but just that over the last couple of years in my cursory observation England came across as dominant.

In fact I would say, the surprise of the average Indian supporter at this result, is because people have misunderstood #1 to be the dominant top-dog - which was never the case.

England is not a dominant topper yet either. Not until they have a good run in India and S Africa. That is something, the likes of me would like to see. Till then theerppai sandhOsamAga oththi dhaan vaikkaNum.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 09:18 AM [Full View]

Even Sachin looked tired yesterday during the KP-Cook partnership.
Ishanth was not making attempts to stop boundaries. But it was surprising to see Sachin too give up on something a second earlier than he would usually do.
Amit Mishra kuruttAmpOkkula vizharaan. One ball just hit his person and stopped from going four, though he was focus when fielding it was a feet or two away

Praveen -

- bat, bowl, fielding - avanaala enna mudiyumO adhai fullA seyyurAn.

From: littlemaster1982 on 12th August 2011 09:29 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

LM, too much this - if dhoni had removed dravid and kept someone else, u and plum wud have said, only dhoni fossible to remove a man from slips who has taken most catches in tests........

No way Maddy. This is not something said in hindsight. We have been seeing alarming drop rate of catches by Dravid in the last few series. We are not even acknowledging the problem, let alone rectify it.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 09:48 AM [Full View]

Naan inga wc lerndhu sollitu irukkaen. Gangu's commie is good much better most out there and too good for a rookie.

Originally Posted by P_R

The find of the tour for me is Ganguly.
He didn't get much air time earlier during the WC..or I wasn't listening.

He invariably has something insightful to say, delightful sense of humour -without being clownish, doesn't pussyfoot around expressing his opinions clearly ('that's a regulation catch' - he said for the one Sachin missed yesterday. Others weren't quite saying that'). Possibly the most impressive Indian commentator around

Nasser: Oh Sachin is in, he's bowling off breaks...but you never know the next one may be a legbreak
Sourav: No..two left handers out there
avvaLavu dhaan....just cut him short with something crisp and sound.

Why is Sreeshanth fielding at point, with two left handers and Ishanth -who moves it away - bowling, particularly when you have Raina and Kohli on the field.

One sentence. Packs it with sense. Others hem and haw to say something half as useful.

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 10:03 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Yeah all I am saying is the results and Ire and Ban were the surprises. Not the fact Eng got into the QF.
I get the impression you are all saying that even at the time they entered the competition, QF was the best Eng could have hoped for.

I find that largely missing the growth in stature of the England unit in the last couple of years.

Proteas were strangled into Choking by Strauss.
Just like Eng is a far better test side than they have ever been in recent times, the current ODI team is far better than their earlier sides.
I am not claiming they are as dominant in ODI as they are (and will be :P ) in tests. But to summarily write off the current Eng ODI side as just an extension of Hollioake, Hussain dabbA sides is something I disagree with.

Of course they had problems. When they had an onslaught attack they cracked. Like O'Brien showed in Bangalore. Strauss was clueless. And they just couldn't break that pesky partnership in Bangladesh. But in EVERY SINGLE MATCH, they kept coming back, kept attacking, making tactical changes that won them thriller after thriller. Which is why I found the margin of defeat against SL in the QF not at all representative of the difference between the two teams.

Which is why I picked the Chennai match as an example where there was a true contest.

adhellAm theriyin. But to think this team is no different from the previous England teams - is a sweep. I am being ominous here

How many ODi series did they win before the lead up to the worldcup?
Did the Eng team which went to the worldcup knew their batting order? Any ODI team which has the likes the Cook,Trott,Bell,Yardy/Samit patel can never be a good odi side. Whenever the pitch is dicey the minnow teams will find a way to cause an upset as seen in the chennai match

The bar set by previous Eng team in odis was so low that any wins by the current Eng odi side
is seen as a major accomplishment.

The current Eng odi team looks great on a typical Eng conditions as seen in the SL odi series but almost 95% of the odi games are played on roads and with England's rise to no.1 in tests I don't see the team giving as much importance to odis. Even the Eng cheerleaders in Nass/Botham don't see their odi team as a major force.
Having said all this I wouldn't be surprised if India squander the odis as well

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:13 AM [Full View]

More than the Australians, I want to see Shane Warne in the next Ashes series now.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

That very condescending "I am not surprised England are thrashing India like thus in tests" dhAn disingenuous-ngaREn. I fully expected us to lose this series - but I am surprised at the thrashing and rightly so. Even Strauss, Bell, Broad and co. will be surprised. nInga dhAn enakka appavE theriyumnu solRInga.

Steyn didn't play a crucial match in that series which England won or drew by the skin of their teeth. Think our CSK ambi Ntini's last test where he sodhappified.

I agree England have depth which is commendable unlike thennappirikia, aus, india etc. But then remember Pakistan? Akram will go tanvir will come tanvir will go gul will come gul will go Asif will come etc. That was depth, too. Poorly managed depth.

Infact, pakistani cricket is my sad, adolescent crush. If only...

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:23 AM [Full View]

Shane Warne bowling or as commentator?

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:23 AM [Full View]

To talk about our the No 1 ranking, our bowling has never been Number 1. At-best it is 3 or 4. Without Zaheer it has now shown to be at Bangladesh level. It's the batting that has always been saving our ass with at-least three or 4 in the top 7 chipping in consistently over the last 3 years. Now even that has been dealt a death knell its time to figure what to do with the middle order. Our stock of spinners has also gone down the drain with Kumble's retirement. Ojha/Mishra/Ashwin ellam big stage-la eppadinu namakku theriadhu. I guess we have to settle with Limited overs glory for the future. And from on fans cannot expect dominant teams like Windies/Aussies in the past. 3 or 4 top teams will be always fighting for the Top Test rank from now on would be my guess.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:23 AM [Full View]

What's the question?. As a bowler only. I would love to see some more added to the 195 tally.

Originally Posted by Plum

Shane Warne bowling or as commentator?

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:27 AM [Full View]

No AF. England will dominate. But that's not the same as what Windies and Aussies did.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:27 AM [Full View]

Now that I said yesterday that Eng will lose in the subcontinent, i am sure they may win now. Yeah I used sure and may in the same line. I should have just been quiet like Thalaivar. I already jinxed my wish.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:28 AM [Full View]

The point I am trying to make is England batting hasn't been tested enough bowling wise/conditions wise. I would love to see Broad/Anderson/Tremlett bowling in sub continent conditions trying to take wickets.

Originally Posted by Plum

No AF. England will dominate. But that's not the same as what Windies and Aussies did.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:59 AM [Full View]

pAkkalAm. adhirshta kArru avanga pakkam. Sub-continentla England jeyippadhu uRudhi.
DubailAm Series in pocket already. Fakistan playerslAm already Elam pOyiruppAnga Dawood kaasukku.
I have a theory that the only time Fakistan flayers dont fix matches(to lose) is against India because if it leaks out that they took money to lose matches against India, they are screwed. Whereas all available evidence shows that fixing against other nations doesnt invite much ridicule - vide, the status of Akram etc. idhu oru historical izhappu - because this is what helpe England and the like show dominant performance against Fakistan but we cannot

Sree Langa will be decimated and demoralised by Australia. England will visit a demoralised Lanka and conquer them.

From: ajaybaskar on 12th August 2011 10:59 AM [Full View]

Was watching the highlights of the previous tour of India to England. Dravid's catch to dismiss Prior off Kumble was

. Hope he rediscovers his catching form.

Also as Plum said, DK was way better!

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:01 AM [Full View]

This picture sums up England's current victorious reign:
http://nestaquin.files.wordpress.com...ith-bambi1.jpg

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:03 AM [Full View]

Australia’s bowlers were easy meat, so for a sterner challenge England’s captain-in-waiting, Alastair Cook, has been lurking around petting zoos slaughtering harmless woodland creatures.
With such splendid form under his belt an invitation to saddle up for a traditional Royal fox hunt can’t be too far away. The photograph of Alastair resplendent in faux-military uniform, complete with shiny jackboots, releasing the starving hounds will undoubtedly make many an English tabloid heart swell.
What I’m most looking forward to are his future holiday snaps. Imagine a grinning, beanie clad Alastair displaying his superior masculinity clubbing Harp seal cubs on the frozen ice in Canada and harpooning Humpback whale calves in the Southern Ocean.
They obviously breed hard men down Essex way and it’s disapointing that my almost forgotten ancestors from Southern England never brought their lust for bloodsports with them when they eloped to New South Wales nine score and seven years ago.
If they had I might have inherited the ignorance to rid myself of the pademelon grazing on the lawn, the echidna rutting in the shed and those pesky possums scratching up the towering gum in the backyard

The story behind the pic...

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:06 AM [Full View]

But ingilAndhu kirikettu aNikku ondru kooRa vizhaigiREn:

iyAm Sriman, aNNan Ricky is sethu: Warning to Strauss, Cool, Tremlett, Broad, Andersen, Feeyar etc:
sethAdhA pOyittAn enga aNNan Ricky. varuvAndA. pazhaiya Ricky-A varuvandA. 2013-la ungaLukku Appu veippAn engal anNan Ricky

From: sathya_1979 on 12th August 2011 11:07 AM [Full View]

Ricky's pull shot is back, sign of man getting back to form

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 11:23 AM [Full View]

rubbing salt into the wounds

"It'd help if India's fielders didn't have their hands in their pockets. It's not that cold. They need to look interested (in play) and show some desire.If you don't want to be here, go home," he said on Wednesday, before rejecting India coach Duncan Fletcher's observation that the ball had swung prodigiously in the ongoing series. "The pitch is playing all right. We were expecting it to be quicker and seam more," Bresnan told reporters.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:24 AM [Full View]

Most importantly, BCCI is stupid not to use the rule book effectively:
If they had put in the right umpires and match referees for England matches - I dont mean stooges who will blatantly cheat against England but nyAyamAna referees who will just uphold justice
1. Strauss would have been on notice for suspension for over rates - all reporting media talked about over rate being slow for both England and Lanka but only Lankan captain was fined and put on notice. Similarly, Dhoni is pulled up at every opp. but Strauss never gets pulled up - when the clear evidence is his team also violates overrate. Why? That would have put further pressure on them, and atleast minimised their strut
2. Broad should actually have been banned for a few matches for his collective offences. Nobody can deny this. Not even the most one-eyed England supporter. He shouldnt even have been batting at 124-8. nyAyamAna referee irundhirundhA England would have lost a crucial player, too.

If all England players are fined and booked for regular offences, then there wont be a team to play. Except for Cook, Bell and some puLLa poochis ("flower ammA, straus appA, andha Dhoni kaLLAttam Adi en bat-ai pudnigittAn nInga pOyi avan dressing roomlErundhu en bat-ai vAngi kudunga...mmm...mmmmmmm...enakku azhuvAchi azhuvAchiyA varudhu), half the England team will be banned half the time. appO pEsalAM namma strength in depth paththi.

Sadly, BCCI is not awake enough in this respect. Note that I am not asking for bending of rules - rules nyAyamA apply paNNAlE podhum. England dappa dance Adum

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:25 AM [Full View]

Well said Timmy. Afterall, arent you Ian Botham + Andrew Flintoff. You arent Gary Sobers because that is reserved for Stuart Broad. Unfortuantely. illainA adhaiyum solli iruppOm unakku. nI sonnA thappA irukkumA?

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:26 AM [Full View]

sari right. Sachin 100 adikkaRARo illayO i yAm nearing 15000. endha threadla 15000th post pOdalAm

From: sathya_1979 on 12th August 2011 11:35 AM [Full View]

Reserve it for the best - NT thread

From: raajarasigan on 12th August 2011 11:40 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

"It'd help if India's fielders didn't have their hands in their pockets. It's not that cold. They need to look interested (in play) and show some desire.If you don't want to be here, go home," he said on Wednesday, before rejecting India coach Duncan Fletcher's observation that the ball had swung prodigiously in the ongoing series. "The pitch is playing all right. We were expecting it to be quicker and seam more," Bresnan told reporters.

கௌரவம் கௌரவம்ன்னு (No.1) இப்படி நாரடிச்சிட்டான்களே

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:56 AM [Full View]

That's a good suggestion Sathya but I went back to my roots in this forum
NT paththi ezhudha en kitta sarakku oNNum illai but IR paththi eppO vENA ezhudhalAm - neRaiya raw material irukku

From: sathya_1979 on 12th August 2011 11:57 AM [Full View]

Ya, another great!

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 12:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Timmy, the Bresnan

It'd help if India's fielders didn't have their hands in their pockets. It's not that cold. They need to look interested (in play) and show some desire

goyyAla unakkellAM chithirai veyyilila Chennaila test match vekkaNum. appO nI epdi pEsurannu nAnum pArkarEn.
Unfortunately, our BCCI will schedule a test match in Chandigarh in December for England - weather conditions will favour these strutting English men in that situation.

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 12:26 PM [Full View]

Experts only look at figures, says Weed

So what should they look at?

PR at work.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/9571739.cms

He has blamed umpires/fielders for his misfortune still thinks he did well in windies and pats his back for batting when asked about bowling

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 12:35 PM [Full View]

He also got his friend Saqqy Mushtaq to issue a similar endorsement in his favour.

Saqqy-kku India mEla enna veRuppO - ivanai usuppEthi vudaRAn

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 12:36 PM [Full View]

I think it is not just Bhajji himself thinking these up. I strongly suspect his PR firm, and media agents, and sponsors have employed people to positively spin on his behalf and feed him these lines.

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 12:49 PM [Full View]

^ whatever may be the case.shouldn't he kept his trap shut about Windies tour where he couldn't buy a wicket at Dominica and couldn't get past Fidel in the final test. BCCI should ask him to watch his each and every delivery he pelted in the windies tour as a punishment.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 01:05 PM [Full View]

adhu epdi he''l shut his...er..mouth?
vAi mattum illainA avana ennikkO nAi kavvittu pOyirukkum

From: raajarasigan on 12th August 2011 02:40 PM [Full View]

I created chances. A few catches were put down and some of the LBW decisions didn't go in my favour. But there is no scope for complaining and you should be mature enough to take those in your stride. mature enough'na ஏன்டா கப்பித்தனமா சொல்ற... அவன் கேட்ச் புடிக்கல .. umpire அவுட் கொடுக்கலன்னு ... இதுல தற்பெருமை வேற.. நான் தான் No.1 spinner'nu...

From: littlemaster1982 on 12th August 2011 02:43 PM [Full View]

No one gives this kind of statements other than Bhajji idiot

Dropped catches and wrong decisions are a part of the game. To give them as reasons for your non performance is really pushing it

From: Bala (Karthik) on 12th August 2011 03:10 PM [Full View]

Obnoxious weed is a dastard. He will continue to irritate, infuriate and frustrate the life out of us by remaining in the team, unchallenged

From: SoftSword on 12th August 2011 03:11 PM [Full View]

sabba... cricinfo comments padichu mudicha oru thrupthi....

From: raajarasigan on 12th August 2011 03:16 PM [Full View]

Bopara should stop idolising Sachin: Vaughan

இது வேறயா... இந்த நாற வாயனுங்க வாய மூடவாச்ச்சும் ஒரு மேட்ச் ஜெயங்கடா...

LONDON: Former England skipper Michael Vaughan feels Ravi Bopara should stop idolising Indian batting icon Sachin Tendulkar as Test cricketers should not "worship" opponents while their teams battle it out on the field.

"There comes a time when you have to make the transition from a promising player to a fully fledged international cricketer and that moment has arrived for Ravi Bopara. He is 26 now and is a senior player. He has to realise he is not a kid and deliver. He will never get a better chance against an Indian team with the wheels off," Vaughan wrote in his column for Daily Telegraph.

"His biggest challenge will be playing on the same pitch as his hero, Sachin Tendulkar. He has always tried to model himself on Sachin. But now he is playing a Test match against him and is going to have to admit he can't idolise the guy.

"He can't stare at every move he makes and say 'wow, look at Sachin'. As Test cricketers, you can't worship an opponent. It is a battle. It is you against them," he added.

Vaughan, taking a dig at the listless Indian bowling attack in the absence of injured Zaheer Khan, advised Bopara to stay at the crease for a longer period of time.

"Their attack is one of the easiest you could face, and without Zaheer Khan England could have picked another top six from county cricket and still done pretty well.

"I want to see Ravi have more of a presence at the crease in the way he plays, and not just by the way he walks. Ravi has to do is trust his game, technique and mental approach. His concentration has to be spot-on and not just when he bats. In the field he has to be on top of his game to show England he is a big boy now," said Vaughan of Bopara, who made a return to the Test side in place of injured Jonathan Trott.

Bopara made 178 against Leicestershire just over a week ago and the Essex batsman is expected to bat at number five or six, with Ian Bell taking the place of Trott at number three.

Vaughan said the position suits Bopara as he had scored a hundred against the West Indies two years ago batting in that position.

"It will help Ravi that he is batting at six. Against the West Indies, he was batting in that position two years ago and little things like that can make you feel more comfortable when you are parachuted back into the team.

"Now that he has been given a chance and if he is successful it might be more than a one-off game to fill in for Jonathan Trott. Tim Bresnan showed at Trent Bridge what can happen if you perform. If Ravi makes 150 he can't be dropped, especially if Eoin Morgan struggles," he said.

Vaughan advised Bopara to quickly sort out his weakness against the rising delivery in order to make an impression for England.

"The bouncing ball has sorted Ravi out in the past. If you can push him back in his crease he starts to feel for the ball around about the fourth stump (an imaginary channel outside off-stump). He does not quite get his head over his front pad at first and, as it is for most players, the ball slanted across and nipping back in is a problem," Vaughan said.

"When he arrives at the crease under pressure at Edgbaston he just has to get his head over his front pad early and work out where the off-stump is. It helps to leave a few early on and not chase the ball," advised Vaughan.

Trailing 0-2, India, after being all out for 224 in the first innings, saw England stretch their lead to 232 on day two of the third Test at Edgbaston and Vaughan said it's hard to see the visitors having a chance this week.

"I just hope they can show a bit more fight and Dravid-like determination throughout the team in their batting, bowling and fielding. We want to see more of a contest and India play better," he added.

From: ajaybaskar on 12th August 2011 03:46 PM [Full View]

India WC win pannumbodhellam indha moodhevinga moodittu irundhuchunga..

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 03:51 PM [Full View]

Oru Ravi Shastri oru varththai vuttadhukkE idhungaLukku poRukkalai. nammallAM evLO varushamA evLO ingliskaara ravi saastrigaLai sagichukittirukkOm?

idhu pOdhAdhunnu original Ravi Saastriyum namma dhAn varusham poorAm sagichukittirukkOm.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

It looks like England will score 680 odd runs and declare, which will be a lead of 400 odd runs and they will try and bowl india out.

Looks like England are unstopable!

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 04:02 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

No way Maddy. This is not something said in hindsight. We have been seeing alarming drop rate of catches by Dravid in the last few series. We are not even acknowledging the problem, let alone rectify it.

im not surprised that u r able to pick up such a small pin in this sand-mine of disasters

From: Bala (Karthik) on 12th August 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

idhu pOdhAdhunnu original Ravi Saastriyum namma dhAn varusham poorAm sagichukittirukkOm.

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From: littlemaster1982 on 12th August 2011 04:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

im not surprised that u r able to pick up such a small pin in this sand-mine of disasters

It's a basic thing Maddy. Btw, why are you hell bent on finding the intentions of what I post

From: venkkiram on 12th August 2011 04:54 PM [Full View]

Cook

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 05:01 PM [Full View]

Cook is Cooking well !

From: venkkiram on 12th August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

மிஸ்ராவும் சரியில்லையென்றால் பஜ்ஜி வசதியாக உள்ளே வந்துவிடுவான். பாவம் மிஸ்ரா. தயவுசெய்து எதாவது செய்யப்பா!

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

How many ODi series did they win before the lead up to the worldcup?
Did the Eng team which went to the worldcup knew their batting order? Any ODI team which has the likes the Cook,Trott,Bell,Yardy/Samit patel can never be a good odi side.

I just gave a list of ODI wins in the last two years before the WC that Eng had.
Granted, they had their share of problems - I am not saying they were a better ODI team than India, going into the world cup.
But surely they were a team you would have expected to be in the QFs and on their day advance further.
I am only disagreeing with the seemingly unanimous opinion that England would have been lucky to make it to the quarters.
And surely their bowling attack was such that, noone would've expected a 10 wicket loss. Anyhow nadandhadhu nadandhu pOchu. reNdaayirathipadhinaindhil mudhalvar aaikkiROm.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Having said all this I wouldn't be surprised if India squander the odis as well

I don't think so. India's problems have been the inability to take 20 wickets and inability for batsmen to play long grinding innings. These won't weigh them down in ODIs.

I expect India will win the ODI series and people will probably forget how badly they played the tests.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 07:27 PM [Full View]

ICC's brazen favouritism in favour of England when it comes to player punishments for misbehaviour

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

That very condescending "I am not surprised England are thrashing India like thus in tests" dhAn disingenuous-ngaREn. I fully expected us to lose this series - but I am surprised at the thrashing and rightly so. Even Strauss, Bell, Broad and co. will be surprised. nInga dhAn enakka appavE theriyumnu solRInga.

haha whether Strauss himself would have been surprised is for them to say.
Perhaps I too am a bit surprised by the margin of fold-up than I sounded earlier. So let me reword: given Sachin-Laxman didn't fire, in England, I expected this kind of comprehensive defeat - without a breath of hope. i.e. this was still a team that was highly dependent on bits and pieces of excellence to see it home. appidi dhaan reNdu varushamum Odichungradhu en nyAbagam.

At the end of the second test, I sorely wanted a full strength Indian team. First because there'd be an even contest, but secondly because I think England would beat even that team fair and square. Now this is always going to remembered as 'England won a depleted team'. Which is prima facie, a fact but quite annoying.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

Mishra (Case 6) and Kumar (Case 7) were fined 10% and 20% of their match fees respectively for breaching Article 2.1.3. The Article 2.1.3 includes (pdf):

"(a) excessive, obvious disappointment with an Umpire’s decision; (b) an obvious delay in resuming play or leaving the wicket; (c) shaking the head; (d) pointing or looking at the inside edge when given out lbw; (e) pointing to the pad or rubbing the shoulder when caught behind; (f) snatching the cap from the Umpire; (g) requesting a referral to the TV Umpire (other than in the context of a legitimate request for a referral as may be permitted in such International Match); and (h) arguing or entering into a prolonged discussion with the Umpire about his decision. It shall not be a defence to any charge brought under this Article to show that the Umpire might have, or in fact did, get any decision wrong."

Given what Stuart Broad did on Day 5 of the 1st Test of this series at Lord's, I wonder why that was not classified in clauses (a) and (h) of the above-mentioned Article. Sitting on haunches after an appeal is turned down should easily classify as "excessive, obvious disappointment with an Umpire’s decision" and slipping in a word to the umpire at the end of that over / start of next over about that decision should classify as "arguing or entering into a prolonged discussion with the Umpire about his decision". Broad might want to argue that it was not an argument or a prolonged discussion, but if he is talking more than the umpire (for his lips seemed to move more than Billy Bowden's), it is "arguing"; and if that discussion continues at the end of the over, it is a "prolonged discussion".

But then he is Stuart Broad, son of Chris, our own James Christopher, innit? How can he be punished?

As per Article 7.3 of the ICC Code of Conduct (pdf), if a Level 1 Offence is committed for the second time within a span of 12 months, then the penalty shall be "the imposition of a fine of between 50-100% of the applicable Match Fee and/or two (2) Suspension Points."

Swann was charged of a Level 1 offence (Case 4) on 12th March 2011. Only 4 months and 18 days have passed since that occasion and Swann has been charged with another Level 1 offence (Case 8). So why was he just reprimanded and not fined 50% of his match fees, which is the minimum penalty to be imposed.

Yet another case of England players getting away. idhellAm sila pErukku kaNNukku theriyAdhu, therinjAlum carpet-ukku keezhE perukittu pOykittE iruppAnga,

And if my aforesaid argument of Broad's behaviour in the 1st Test holds good, then he too should have faced strict sanctions since he has already been pulled up and fined 50% of his match fees for a Level 2 offence on 1st July 2011, merely 29 days ago! Given that the earlier offence was Level 2, I daresay that he should have missed the current Test match at Nottingham!

And if he had missed Nottingham, India would probably have not lost the match. And the so-called depth might have been tested out. They made fun of our batting failure when we lost two of our important batsmen, and in return point that their bowling coped with Tremlett's loss. But that is one bowler. reNdu bowler pOyirundhA therinjirukkum. And there are valid reasons why Broad should not have played at all.

Over rate-lAm samacheer-A apply paNNA, Strauss also would not have played.

idhellAM BCCI power-la irukkarachEvE England pasanga thanga benefit-ku velaiya sAdhichukkurAnga. ivanga vERA off-field powerrukku vandhuttA...

cricket ini mella sAgum

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

Mishra (Case 6) and Kumar (Case 7) were fined 10% and 20% of their match fees respectively for breaching Article 2.1.3. The Article 2.1.3 includes (pdf):

"(a) excessive, obvious disappointment with an Umpire’s decision; (b) an obvious delay in resuming play or leaving the wicket; (c) shaking the head; (d) pointing or looking at the inside edge when given out lbw; (e) pointing to the pad or rubbing the shoulder when caught behind; (f) snatching the cap from the Umpire; (g) requesting a referral to the TV Umpire (other than in the context of a legitimate request for a referral as may be permitted in such International Match); and (h) arguing or entering into a prolonged discussion with the Umpire about his decision. It shall not be a defence to any charge brought under this Article to show that the Umpire might have, or in fact did, get any decision wrong."

Given what Stuart Broad did on Day 5 of the 1st Test of this series at Lord's, I wonder why that was not classified in clauses (a) and (h) of the above-mentioned Article. Sitting on haunches after an appeal is turned down should easily classify as "excessive, obvious disappointment with an Umpire’s decision" and slipping in a word to the umpire at the end of that over / start of next over about that decision should classify as "arguing or entering into a prolonged discussion with the Umpire about his decision". Broad might want to argue that it was not an argument or a prolonged discussion, but if he is talking more than the umpire (for his lips seemed to move more than Billy Bowden's), it is "arguing"; and if that discussion continues at the end of the over, it is a "prolonged discussion".

But then he is Stuart Broad, son of Chris, our own James Christopher, innit? How can he be punished?

As per Article 7.3 of the ICC Code of Conduct (pdf), if a Level 1 Offence is committed for the second time within a span of 12 months, then the penalty shall be "the imposition of a fine of between 50-100% of the applicable Match Fee and/or two (2) Suspension Points."

Swann was charged of a Level 1 offence (Case 4) on 12th March 2011. Only 4 months and 18 days have passed since that occasion and Swann has been charged with another Level 1 offence (Case 8). So why was he just reprimanded and not fined 50% of his match fees, which is the minimum penalty to be imposed.

Yet another case of England players getting away. idhellAm sila pErukku kaNNukku theriyAdhu, therinjAlum carpet-ukku keezhE perukittu pOykittE iruppAnga,

And if my aforesaid argument of Broad's behaviour in the 1st Test holds good, then he too should have faced strict sanctions since he has already been pulled up and fined 50% of his match fees for a Level 2 offence on 1st July 2011, merely 29 days ago! Given that the earlier offence was Level 2, I daresay that he should have missed the current Test match at Nottingham!

And if he had missed Nottingham, India would probably have not lost the match. And the so-called depth might have been tested out. They made fun of our batting failure when we lost two of our important batsmen, and in return point that their bowling coped with Tremlett's loss. But that is one bowler. reNdu bowler pOyirundhA therinjirukkum. And there are valid reasons why Broad should not have played at all.

Over rate-lAm samacheer-A apply paNNA, Strauss also would not have played.

idhellAM BCCI power-la irukkarachEvE England pasanga thanga benefit-ku velaiya sAdhichukkurAnga. ivanga vERA off-field powerrukku vandhuttA...

cricket ini mella sAgum

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:36 PM [Full View]

Alastair Cook-ai extrapolate paNNA thalai suththudhu.

And I don't get the suggestion that he is boring to watch. His punches, pulls and cuts at quite terrific.
OTOH is to Morgan who plays many an ugly shot. Century adichuttu out aanA, kuzhandhai Ravi enna aaduraannu paakkalaam.
Cooker triple kamaan.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

England 579/ 3 !! I think Cook will want to "over cook" Graham Gooch score of 333 ! before declaring, and morgan must be eyeing his Double Century!

From: SoftSword on 12th August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

sariya sonninga...

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

Folks

Just out of Curiosity who has the best "Batting Average" ( above 50) ?

SRT
Fonding
Rahul Dravid
Thilan Samaraweera
Mahela
Sanga

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 07:47 PM [Full View]

Quickly checked to ensure Sachin had more runs than Cook when he was this age. He did. Phew! At a much higher average.

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 07:54 PM [Full View]

SL's highest score in tests is under threat

still can't fathom how Cook piles on runs in test cricket with his clumsy technique. A good test bowler should be able to work him out which again illustrates the quality of test bowling he gets to face. He might have ended up like Sadagoppan Ramesh had he debuted in late 90s..the similarities are uncanny

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 07:56 PM [Full View]

Sangakarra has the highest average. Interestingly, he averages 70+ in matches which he hasnt kept wickets. Those are mind-boggling figures. I dont recall many people excited about Cook talking about that.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 07:58 PM [Full View]

wizzy, ungaLukku theriyudhu.

pOna varusham Asif and Aamir oru tune pOttAngaLE. Cook dance-O dance - ramen AndAlum rajini rangekku.

Problem is there arent enough bowlers of that class in World Cricket now.

ivainga adhirshtam, SA series varachE Steyn or Morkel will get injured or just return from injury/layoff and will be ineffective.

Steyn-aiyE adichuttOmla-nu vERA collar-ai thookki vuttuppAnga.

irukkattum

dharmam vellum. (atleast ippOdhaikku ipdi solli manasai thEthikka vENdiyadhu dhAn)

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

SL's highest score in tests is under threat

still can't fathom how Cook piles on runs in test cricket with his clumsy technique. A good test bowler should be able to work him out which again illustrates the quality of test bowling he gets to face. He might have ended up like Sadagoppan Ramesh had he debuted in late 90s..the similarities are uncanny

Chance eh illa

SL will hold the Title !

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Sangakarra has the highest average. Interestingly, he averages 70+ in matches which he hasnt kept wickets. Those are mind-boggling figures. I dont recall many people excited about Cook talking about that.

I guess, keeping wickets and batting at 3 put extreme pressure on a batsmen!

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 08:05 PM [Full View]

Zageer dawg unnai evan da fit aa illama irukka sonnadhu. cook ellam 250 adikuraan.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

SL's highest score in tests is under threat

still can't fathom how Cook piles on runs in test cricket with his clumsy technique.

adadaa... meettavE meettAdhu pOla irukkE. I quite like his batting. podhuvA lefthander-nA udanE 'lazy elegance' ndruvaainga. He is anything but. Plods through resolutely to get his runs and when in flow he is quite impressive. I like how he paces his game when the going is not good.

Originally Posted by wizzy

A good test bowler should be able to work him out which again illustrates the quality of test bowling he gets to face.

The match they won (by an innings) against SA had a Cook century against Steyn, Morkel, Ntini. That also poor bowling-A?
He made a fighting century in a losing cause in the Ashes where McGrath, Lee and Warne played.

Originally Posted by wizzy

He might have ended up like Sadagoppan Ramesh had he debuted in late 90s..the similarities are uncanny

idhellAm ungaLukkE anyAyamA illai? Cook is phenomenally talented I say.

From: kid-glove on 12th August 2011 08:08 PM [Full View]

Cook deserved his double hundred.

But I agree that mentioning him in same breath as mighty Sachin, as one of the English guys said in Twitter, is like comparing David Bentley to Dennis Bergkamp & beyond ludicrous.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:11 PM [Full View]

SadagopA, oru 10 varusham latea poRandhirundhA pOtta pOttila nadikkAma, test cricketla 250 adichurukkalAmEdA...
(ofcourse indiaku edhiri nAttula poRakkaNum appO dhAn mudyin...)

Two things to remember
1. When India throw in the towl, any half-decent batsman with patience, can cash in. Remember Chanderpaul? Why is he any worse than Cook in terms of watchability? Or acccumulativeness?
2. Aussie batsmen cash in when they stay usually. England are the new Australia.

I dont value 4-0, 3-0 wins etc - it just shows you are an efficient machine. Machines arent interesting. Talent is. Talent is visible on the field. Cook is a machine.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

But I agree that mentioning him in same breath as mighty Sachin, as one of the English guys said in Twitter, is like comparing David Bentley to Dennis Bergkamp & beyond ludicrous.

Clarif...I did NOT do that.
Just checking number of runs scored at this age etc. Overall runs tally safe dhaanE'nnu oru checking purpose. Thassaal.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:16 PM [Full View]

Turrn mil rahA hai.
Swann, you can't get better conditions.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

How come Fee Yaar and Flau are not fighting any more? like they usually disagree with each other

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

1. When India throw in the towl, any half-decent batsman with patience, can cash in. Remember Chanderpaul? Why is he any worse than Cook in terms of watchability? Or acccumulativeness?

Watchability - definitely not as much as Cook. Of course de gustibus non est disputandum.

To attribute Cook's success solely to India giving up - ellAm....yEdhO ungaLukku convincing-A irundhA sari.

From: kid-glove on 12th August 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Clarif...I did NOT do that.
Just checking number of runs scored at this age etc. Overall runs tally safe dhaanE'nnu oru checking purpose. Thassaal.

I got that P_R!

Btw I don't agree with S.Ramesh comparison at all. Cook is far more talented.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

How come Fee Yaar and Flau are not fighting any more? like they usually disagree with each other

Faram neenga neenga dhaan, naanga naanga dhaan.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:28 PM [Full View]

"This is only the fifth time that opposition teams have had a lead over 400 at the end of the second innings against India. The last occasion was Centurion when South Africa bowled India out for 136 and got a lead of 484. The only time India drew a match was against Sri Lanka when Sri Lanka scored a record 952 for 6 in Colombo in 1997."

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

ConvincingO illaiyO ipdiyellAm sollikalainA peace of mind irukkAdhu. Adharmam kavvudhu. Dharmam vellumnu epdi nambaRadhu? Kaliyugam AchE!

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:35 PM [Full View]

Btw, Steyn didn't play in a crucial match in the SA series. You haven't acknowledged that.

Stuart Fraud haider mEla pandheRinjappO 10 match ban paNNi irukkaNum? Epdi thappichaan? Badhil innum varala

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:35 PM [Full View]

Cha Declare pannungada, thaanga mudiyala

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

646 ... ithu varaikum nadantha 5 innings la naama adicha motha run ah ivanunga adichitaanga orae innings la.

any rain possible for next two days ???

From: sathya_1979 on 12th August 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

naama vENA params / softie kitta solli artificial rain vara vekkara chemical thoova sollalaam

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 08:53 PM [Full View]

Folks

மழைக்கு எந்த விதமான் அறிகுறிகளும் இல்லை !

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

if Eng declare today, India can be bowled out within 28 overs and England can win a test within 3 days

btw, Cook-kku enna korachhal, super batsman.........what technique he displayed during Ashes - he is here to stay

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 08:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

naama vENA params / softie kitta solli artificial rain vara vekkara chemical thoova sollalaam

mazhai vantha kooda half an hour gap kedacha surunduruvaanga nammalunga ... any riots possible

softie and params , stadium kulla poonthu ragalaiya kelapi vidunga

From: SoftSword on 12th August 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

mazhai ellaam vandhu nammala kaappaattharadhaa irundhaa 2004 WC'laye nikkaama penjirukkanum...
epdiyo adi vaangurom'nu aagipoiduchu... evlo mosamaa mudiyumo avlo mosamaa vaanguvom... appodhaan andha vali urutthum... oru maatrattha kudukkum.... veriyaetthum....

From: MADDY on 12th August 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

i just have time to say, i agree with every word of P_R's arguements in favor of England cricket team(unconditional support for both ODI and test teams)

.........i just differ with him on ranking thingy otherwise excellent arguements P_R

........

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 08:57 PM [Full View]

Cook-ku enna koRaichal - paramasivan kazhuthu paambu. Garuda sowkyamaanu kekkudhu

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

Adhaavadhu oru veeranai adichA nAnE thalamai thAngi kOppaiya samayalkaaranukku kuduppEn. Avan adichadhu puLLa poochingaLai. (VeerargaL vandhappO aNNan surrender - inmsai arasan vv mAdhiri - avanga oorulEyE)
Vengala kiNNam kooda kedayaadhu

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

Now commentators making gay jokes on Ishant and Gautam

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 09:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

softie and params , stadium kulla poonthu ragalaiya kelapi vidunga

appadi pannalaum police kaarnhga yen mugatha paathathum arrest panna maatanga

vEnumna namma Softie ah 0ru 1/4 adichutu ragala panna sollunga

From: V_S on 12th August 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

After bowling and fielding for around/over 200 overs, they will be very tired. Now when they bat again with tiring legs and shoulders, nothing will work out. It's better we don't play our second innings. I pity them.

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 09:27 PM [Full View]

"England's highest score for 73 years!"

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

This what is called rubbing it in

"I want England to bat for as long as possible. On Sunday I have to drive from Bath to Leeds and back and then from Bath to Oxford and I want some cricket to listen to on the radio !" That was from Patrick

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Until Cook "Over cook's " GG score of 333, The Anglo Saxons will not declare ! So they will bat all day today!

From: VinodKumar's on 12th August 2011 09:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Until Cook "Over cook's " GG score of 333, The Anglo Saxons will not declare ! So they will bat all day today!

IIRC that was also against India right ?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

IIRC that was also against India right ?

yes it was ! I think that was back in mid ninties

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

It was against India in 1990. Debut series of one Anil Kumble. India played Kumle AND Hirwani on an English pitch during a English summer. Bless them. And Ravi Shastri was the fifth bowler.

Atleast we had Kapil Dev. Facing a follow on, Hirwani joined him. 4 balls were left in the over as Kapil faced. 24 runs to avoid floow-on. Hirwani's capacity with the bat well known, Kapil simply hit four sixes to avoid the follow on. Hirwani got out first ball

But that was not much consolation - Goochie hit a 123 in the second innings to end up with 456 runs in the match, still a record.

Namma Englandukku ippo follow on kudukka mudiyaadhaa? Avanga batsmenukku aasai kaatti? Kevin unakkoru 100, bell nee oru 150 pottukka, Strauss - take the 125. Bopara - unakkoru 50.
Ipdi solli mayakkittA, England sunday varaikkum second innings bat pannitta match draw pannalAmla

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

Yes as Anna Flau mentioned it was 1990, here is the moment!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2cnNj1QqDhU

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 12th August 2011 10:01 PM [Full View]

Oh, I made a mistake the Vikings will not declare till bresnan scores his century !

So ithudan intha neethi mandram kalaiyuthu

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 10:04 PM [Full View]

@PR one swallow doesn't make a summer..scoring a test 100 against Mcgrath doesn't make him
a great bat as his stats suggest. He was all at sea against Zk in the first test even
a test noob like Pk kind of worked him out in the last 2 tests.
Forget Mcgrath/Wasim does Cook gets to face the quality of Pollock,Gillespie,Bichel,Bishop in tests?
Cook comparisons with Sadagoppar may be a touch over the line on a day he got to his 200 but do u beleive Cook would be this prolific against the attack I mentioned above..Sadagoppar debuted against the likes of Wasim&co but held his own in tests on Indian roads and he was made to look like a club cricketer by Wasim on the odi series that followed on Sharjah roads.
I don't think Cook would have survived against the attack of such quality.
Comparing the stats of Cook at this stage to Sachin is akin to Sehwag's comparisons with King Viv

To sumup it up I quote Hayden on difficulties he faced during his debut in the 90s which should hold good for Cook too had he made the debut in the 90s.

"I was a lamb to the slaughter, and I knew it," writes Matthew Hayden with disarming candour about the Boxing Day Test of 1996. "The West Indies knew it. Curtly Ambrose certainly knew it. If Curtly hadn't got me out that over then it would have happened in his next, or the one after that. I might as well not have bothered padding up because I was out before I got in. Every sportsman will tell you that there are times when you feel way out of your depth and you categorically know you're going to fail."

Had Cook debuted in the same time as Hayden then he would have choosen some other sport

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:04 PM [Full View]

So the point is for youngsters this is a new experience. But I've been there. Seen that. An average England side crushing India and an above-average opener scoring like Bradman. Then scoreboard pressure making above avaerage English bowler look like Lillee and Holding. One Sachin Tendulkar experienced this in his first tour. He is experiencing in his final tour.
History repeats itself. That is why I am immune to avaerage Englishmen cashing in.

From: sathya_1979 on 12th August 2011 10:13 PM [Full View]

ippodhaanE 15k, adhukkuLLa another 80, neenga unga posts oru 8-10 pErukku outsource senjirukkeenganu nenaikkirEn!

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:25 PM [Full View]

Avunu sathyagaaru. Oru oru sectionukkum oru expert vechurukkEn...udanE keep joke solla kUdAdhu.

From: kid-glove on 12th August 2011 10:33 PM [Full View]

Viru. Just what Flu & I discussed the other day. King's pair. Mugundan at least moonu run 50-ball'a adichu iruppaan..

From: wizzy on 12th August 2011 10:33 PM [Full View]

O Mukanda, Where art thou?

From: venkkiram on 12th August 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

0.2
Anderson to Sehwag, OUT, and what does he do? Short of a length, swinging away after pitching outside off, no feet from Sehwag but he drives at it! Edged and taken at first slip
V Sehwag c Strauss b Anderson 0 (1b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00

Height of fitness and Height of preparation!

From: venkkiram on 12th August 2011 10:43 PM [Full View]

188.1
Sharma to Cook, OUT, 130.9 kph, What have you done, Alastair? This is bowled wide of off, he goes after it, but it is too far away, and ends up hitting in the air, Raina runs in from deep point and takes a smart catch. As Gavaskar says, he even picked India's best fielder! Sharma gives him an immediate pat on the back. Dravid shakes his hand. Raina chases him to congratulate him. Strauss calls them off. India have two days and a bit to bat

AN Cook c Raina b Sharma 294 (545b 33x4 0x6) SR: 53.94

கிறுக்கனுங்களுக்கு தாங்க முடியல முச்சதத்தை தவற விட்டது. புகை போகுது!

From: venkkiram on 12th August 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

சேவகன் இரண்டு இன்னிங்க்ஸ்களிலும் ஒரே ஒரு பந்தில் அவுட். வாழ்க!

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 10:47 PM [Full View]

Tamizhan Dineshukku dhrogam izhaiththanar. Series jeyikkum vAippu pOyiRRu.
Tamixhan mukundankku dhrOgam izhaiththanar. Thodarai saman seyyum vAippum pOyiRRu. 3 vdhu test pOttiyai draw seiyyum vAippum pOyiRRu.

DhrOgi vadakkindhayanE unakku idhuvum vENum innamum vENum

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Btw, Steyn didn't play in a crucial match in the SA series. You haven't acknowledged that.

Need to google cricinfo. Will do some time.

But the point we were discussing was about Cook being called a mediocre bat who prospers only in the face of bad bowling.I humbly submit I have demolished the said claim with the two counterexamples.

Originally Posted by Plum

Stuart Fraud haider mEla pandheRinjappO 10 match ban paNNi irukkaNum? Epdi thappichaan? Badhil innum varala

idhukkellAm naan enna badhil solradhu ?

I thought I have made my stands more than clear on this issue:

Sure-A ban paNNirukkaNum.
For the nth time, stump-ai eththi vitta Swann-ai ban paNNirukkaNum
Suleiman Benn mEla echchi thuppina Steyn-aiyum ban paNNirukkaNum.

vERa aRikkai yEdhAvadhu vidaNumA?

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 10:54 PM [Full View]

Head of selectors Tamizhan.

Originally Posted by Plum

Tamizhan Dineshukku dhrogam izhaiththanar. Series jeyikkum vAippu pOyiRRu.
Tamixhan mukundankku dhrOgam izhaiththanar. Thodarai saman seyyum vAippum pOyiRRu. 3 vdhu test pOttiyai draw seiyyum vAippum pOyiRRu.

DhrOgi vadakkindhayanE unakku idhuvum vENum innamum vENum

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 11:02 PM [Full View]

Which SA-ENg series you are talking about. If it was the 2009 dec - 2010 Jan 4 test series in SA, then steyn missed the first test but played in the remaining three. He was crucial in the 4th test win where he took a 5-fer in the first innings.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/rsaveng0...es/387554.html

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

@PR one swallow doesn't make a summer..scoring a test 100 against Mcgrath doesn't make him a great bat as his stats suggest. He was all at sea against Zk in the first test even
a test noob like Pk kind of worked him out in the last 2 tests.

You said he was a Ramesh. Now atleast he is 'not as great as his stats suggest'. Improvement enough.
Of course that is not his only knock. Since you implied he is great because quality of bowling is bad (which still makes him a leader in the 'bad bowling' era!) I picked out a match were the yesteryear greats played and a match were formidable contemporary attack played.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Forget Mcgrath/Wasim does Cook gets to face the quality of Pollock,Gillespie,Bichel,Bishop in tests?

I hope you will say the same about every single contemporary batsman.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Cook comparisons with Sadagoppar may be a touch over the line on a day he got to his 200

Oh...appo oru reNdu naaL kazhichu thittalaamnu abipraayamA

Originally Posted by wizzy

I don't think Cook would have survived against the attack of such quality.

I think he will. I only see him getting better.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Comparing the stats of Cook at this stage to Sachin is akin to Sehwag's comparisons with King Viv

I clarified what I was doing. I was obviously not comparing him with Sachin. But if he goes scoring the way he does I was merely musing if he'd eventually get past the record. Of course it is a pure mathematical extrapolation - which too I believed I mentioned. And more importantly I see it also seems to rest on the assumption that the quality of bowling would continue to be pedestrian for the next 13 years.

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Please do write more.

Originally Posted by wizzy

@PR one swallow doesn't make a summer..scoring a test 100 against Mcgrath doesn't make him
a great bat as his stats suggest. He was all at sea against Zk in the first test even
a test noob like Pk kind of worked him out in the last 2 tests.
Forget Mcgrath/Wasim does Cook gets to face the quality of Pollock,Gillespie,Bichel,Bishop in tests?
Cook comparisons with Sadagoppar may be a touch over the line on a day he got to his 200 but do u beleive Cook would be this prolific against the attack I mentioned above..Sadagoppar debuted against the likes of Wasim&co but held his own in tests on Indian roads and he was made to look like a club cricketer by Wasim on the odi series that followed on Sharjah roads.
I don't think Cook would have survived against the attack of such quality.
Comparing the stats of Cook at this stage to Sachin is akin to Sehwag's comparisons with King Viv

To sumup it up I quote Hayden on difficulties he faced during his debut in the 90s which should hold good for Cook too had he made the debut in the 90s.

"I was a lamb to the slaughter, and I knew it," writes Matthew Hayden with disarming candour about the Boxing Day Test of 1996. "The West Indies knew it. Curtly Ambrose certainly knew it. If Curtly hadn't got me out that over then it would have happened in his next, or the one after that. I might as well not have bothered padding up because I was out before I got in. Every sportsman will tell you that there are times when you feel way out of your depth and you categorically know you're going to fail."

Had Cook debuted in the same time as Hayden then he would have choosen some other sport

From: kid-glove on 12th August 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Viru. Just what Flu & I discussed the other day. King's pair. Mugundan at least moonu run 50-ball'a adichu iruppaan..

uh, King pair rather

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 11:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Tamixhan mukundankku dhrOgam izhaiththanar. Thodarai saman seyyum vAippum pOyiRRu. 3 vdhu test pOttiyai draw seiyyum vAippum pOyiRRu.

kuRumbu kuRumbu!

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 11:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Which SA-ENg series you are talking about. If it was the 2009 dec - 2010 Jan 4 test series in SA, then steyn missed the first test but played in the remaining three. He was crucial in the 4th test win where he took a 5-fer in the first innings.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/rsaveng0...es/387554.html

2nd match where Cook got a century and Eng crushed SA by an innings plus was presumably Steyn 'still recovering and not his quite his potent self'.

From: P_R on 12th August 2011 11:09 PM [Full View]

Sachin, please to salvage Saturday with century. Is it. Good Night

From: ajithfederer on 12th August 2011 11:13 PM [Full View]

PR, Cook didn't do much better when he faced India in the last tour where we had a fit Zaheer, Kumble and a much useful RP Singh(as compared to the vetti sree/isha). He scored 223 in 6 innings. He was sorted out by Kumble thrice and worse by Ganguly twice.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:15 PM [Full View]

Sari we'll analyse that SA series further. We'll meet. I distinctly remember SA missed by 1 wicket in a Steyn-less match. As you said, in the match he returned, Steyn was gingerly and England won. AdhukkappuRam pAkkaNumE. Adhai ArAichi paNNittu vaRrEn

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:18 PM [Full View]

Of all the English guys, I accept Swann is a great in his field. Anderson is getting there. Fraud might become a good all-rounder after all.

From: Plum on 12th August 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

Kamaan KP - great chance to snaffle a test wicket or two. Or three. Or even 6. Ask Michael Clarke. But definitely one today is yours for taking

From: 19thmay on 12th August 2011 11:27 PM [Full View]

Aduthu September 19 Champions trophy ..... Odi Odi uzhaikanum!!

From: wizzy on 13th August 2011 12:20 AM [Full View]

PR, Ramesh's comparison came about to point out the quality of attacks he got to face, even the support bowlers of 90s are better than what we get to see today. I believe Ramesh would have avg around late 40s/early 50s like Gambhir had he made his debut in the last 5 years. Whatever I said about Cook holds true for Gambhir too...even his stats are a bit flattery.
On the same vein the likes of Atherton,Thorpe would have feisted on Mcgrath/Donald less attacks and avg mid 50s today.
The likes of Cook,Amla,Trott,Gambhir,Morgan are making hay on substandard attacks..I would cut some slack on Gambhir since he never gets to face Indian bowlers

From: ajithfederer on 13th August 2011 05:57 AM [Full View]

Got the link

Playing Pak in Dubai for 3 Tests(Itineray not confirmed), Sl in SL for 2 tests(Mar/Apr 12) then host WI in Eng for 3 tests(May/June 12) and then the battle for No1 against SA in home for 3 tests (July/Aug 12) and in India for 4 Tests(Nov/dec 12) and away in NZ for 3 Tests (Feb/Mar 13). Very apt test for a Number 1 team. You got all variety here. Say from Mid-August they will have their No 1 rank the first target would be to surpass Mar 2013.

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Can England hold it for the 19 months like India did?

They are touring Pak in Dubai, SL in SL (Mar 12) and India in India from this year through next year. Lots of tough sub continental pitches where no-swing conditions/flat pitches and good batters of spin available.

From: MADDY on 13th August 2011 07:41 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

You said he was a Ramesh. Now atleast he is 'not as great as his stats suggest'. Improvement enough.
Of course that is not his only knock. Since you implied he is great because quality of bowling is bad (which still makes him a leader in the 'bad bowling' era!) I picked out a match were the yesteryear greats played and a match were formidable contemporary attack played.

I hope you will say the same about every single contemporary batsman.

yeah, why cook alone gets this arguement?? arent Kallis or sehwag the same who are feasting on weak bowling attacks?? as u pointed out superbly, he is on top of batsmen in "bad bowling era" , P_R

......lets not confuse English bats/balls with their mouths

From: raghavendran on 13th August 2011 07:58 AM [Full View]

nethu miss ayiduchu...
MADDY
a batsman cannot be called great if his stats shows...adhe madhiridhan indha points/ranking system..atleast the stats is not any algorithm calculation..it just reflects what a player has done in his career..J.Kallis and Punter greats of the game..othupingala?...we can easily say they have done it..if we blindly go by numbers..my point about India was more of this...

From: raghavendran on 13th August 2011 08:07 AM [Full View]

A.Cook is a very solid batsman with a great ability to score big..but technically annan weak..offsidela foot veliye varala...i cant say he will struggle against any bowling attack because there arent any great bowlers around..

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 08:21 AM [Full View]

Top of batsmen in bad bowling era? Based on two series - Australia 2010 and India 2011? Kallis has been doing it for 14 years - and for 6-7 years initially did it against Top bowlers. Even within that, in the one match that Johnson fired, aNNan dingiri dikkA. In the current series, against the moving ball when India still ahd some spirit int he series, aNNan dandanakkA.

Sehwag - doesnt play for his average. He may not average 50+ in the 1990s but atleast, he plays a brutally beautiful game. VVS Laxman doesnt average much but is a much better player than Cook. Lax also is a batsman in this depleted era. So?

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 08:22 AM [Full View]

Gambhir comparison is very good. wizzy, pls post more.

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 10:38 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Top of batsmen in bad bowling era?

Originally Posted by P_R

a leader in the 'bad bowling' era

Note the 'a'..indefinite article. evvaLavu gavanamA ezhudhikittu irukkEn.

Originally Posted by Plum

Based on two series - Australia 2010 and India 2011?

aiyAyiram runnum, padhinettu century-um indha reNdu toorla dhaan adichaaplayA?

So most of his runs have come from dabbA attacks, easy conditions and/or when the opposition has been disspirited. appidi dhaanE? Against that Ashes attack in Aus, any Tom, Dick or Harry would have been as successful. eh?

Wasim Akram, Andy Roberts, Wes Hall ellAm bowling pOttirundhA Cooker nari suda pOyiruppAr. Okay-vA? reNdu varusham kazhichu pEsuvOm. As of now, I see enough technique in him to take apart challenging attacks, conditions in the years to come.

Originally Posted by Plum

Sehwag - doesnt play for his average. He may not average 50+ in the 1990s but atleast, he plays a brutally beautiful game. VVS Laxman doesnt average much but is a much better player than Cook.

Did ANYONE contest these things?

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 10:42 AM [Full View]

Btw, all this apart, has there been any murmur about Praveen Kumar's action?
It seems very suspect to me. Particularly when viewed from the side, the final delivery has a bend and release which seems quite chuck-like.
Anyone else feels this way?

Find of the tour, gives his best and all that, of course.

From: wizzy on 13th August 2011 11:23 AM [Full View]

Comparing Kallis with Cook is as contemptuous as comparing ARR with the GVP

My contention is the that some of the current avg. batsman with clumsy technique are made to look like batting gods because of the paucity of skillful test bowlers. On the current lot I would punt on Bell,Cryakara,Abcd,Prior to come good if they had debuted in the 90s.
If you go by the stats alone ppl like Jayawardene/Samaraveera/Hayden/Cook/Gambhir will be seen as better bats than likes of Waugh Snr/Jnr,Martyn,Slater,Thorpe,Vaughn who played most of their cricket in the 90s.
Imagine 10 years down the line if a kid in SL compares Mahela with Waugh Snr and belittles his achievements.

PK locks his wrist to get his swing going which gives us a illusion that he pelts it. Eng media will be all over him if he had a suspect action

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 12:25 PM [Full View]

adhAnE - slight suspicion irundhA inNEram English Media and ICC would have colluded to raise a big cry. Ofcourse. BCCI has the power to kill those and prevent him from being banned. But if there was any doubt as per MCC books, surely I would have heard from English media by now at how "As usual, Subcontinental bowlers are cheating".
You are starting to see phantoms. More English than the English, eh?

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 12:29 PM [Full View]

But then England are winning. idhE thothurukkattum innEram Praveen is chucking blurbs would have become common.

Cook in Press Conferences - It is quite tough when a bowler straightens his arm.
Strauss - ICC must do something about it
Vaughan - spineless ICC bendning before BCCI power to play chucking Indian bowler
etc etc etc

Let the English and its supporters enjoy the moment - starved of on-field success for what, 50 years? And off-field power for 15 years?

Let them crow - it is their time now

From: sathya_1979 on 13th August 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

d i s a s t e r

From: venkkiram on 13th August 2011 04:21 PM [Full View]

ஒரு நேரம் ஆண்டர்சன் புயலா இருக்கான். இன்னொரு நேரத்தில அகலன் எரிமலையா வெடிக்கிறான். மற்றுமொரு நேரத்துல பிரஸ்னன் பின்னி பெடலேடுக்கிறான். நமது உலகத் தர பேட்டிங் ஏணி அக்குவேறா அணிவேறா ஒடஞ்சி கெடக்குது. காய்லான் கடைக்குக் கூட தேறாது போல.

From: venkkiram on 13th August 2011 04:25 PM [Full View]

ரெய்னாவிற்கு கிடைக்கும் அடுத்ததொரு பொன்னான வாய்ப்பு. சரியாக பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ளனும். எப்படியோ ஆண்டர்சன் அடுத்த ஓவர் போட வருவதற்குள் இதைப் பதிவு செய்து விடுகிறேன்.

From: SoftSword on 13th August 2011 04:44 PM [Full View]

vaaippu... adhaan varrusham poora kedaikkudhae...

From: sathya_1979 on 13th August 2011 05:08 PM [Full View]

"£%£%$^$%^&%^*^&(^&*£$%Q$%£SADGDFHJDYT*E%^&R

From: SoftSword on 13th August 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

no comments... no complaints... nobody to blame... not our time...

From: Thirumaran on 13th August 2011 05:18 PM [Full View]

ithukellaam ethukku peelings.. IPL varum, panam niraya kidaikkum.. nammaalungalum veeram nallaa kaatuvaanga.. 3 maasam, evvllo adi pataalum, evvlo tired aanaalum thaangittu continuous aa vilayaaduvaanga.. Naamum Dhoni and Sachin peruma paesi sanda poatukkalaam.. India

Indian fans

perusunga irukkum boathe intha nilama.. athungalum retired aagittaa innum vilangidum.. IPL 3 months not enough.. there should be some plans from BCCI and players for making more money throughout the year..namma fans um salikaama support tharuvaanga

From: kid-glove on 13th August 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

If we had XI Praveen Kumar(s), we'd be winning this series..

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 06:55 PM [Full View]

Flash news from Patiala: Harbhajan enbavar veettil aadu vetti kondAttam.
A beaming Singh pointed out that India are just as crap without him as with him, if not worse. Hence, reports linking India's poor performance with his inability have been proven wrong. He pointed out that he never let India slid to an innings defeat. "That's what happens when you recruit a puny vegetarian boy as spinner, as opposed to a lion-like Punjab da puttar like me"
Off the record he added that that should tell Mallya and his crony Dhoni. "Make it large, MS, ha ha ha " said the alleged off-spinner.
His mother was seen distributing sweets in the neighbourhood. "Tu jeeyo puttaru hazaaro saal. " she was seen blessing her son.

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

Test Cricket ini mella chaagum so no worries. YArume illAdha teakadaila England "naanga championsla"-nu tea AthikitturuppAinga. Freeya vidunga floks

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 07:29 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

PK locks his wrist to get his swing going which gives us a illusion that he pelts it.

Hmm seems very fishy to me. Will see if there are any side view, slow-mos on youtube.

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

India irukka sollo adhu waeld nember one.
England irukka sollo adhu yaarumillAdha tea kadai
Wondraful.

'Ambrose, Bierce, Wes Hall illaadha tea kadai, yEdhO Odikittu irukku'nnu kadandha reNdu varushathula eppayAvadhu sollirukkeengaLA?

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 07:44 PM [Full View]

Awwal Number

finally finally...

Take a bow Flower & Strauss

for building this fantastic team that is going from strength to strength over the last two years. This domination has been most satisfying. Look forward to more.

From: sathya_1979 on 13th August 2011 07:52 PM [Full View]

Congrats Eng! Backed your words with action on the field. At least leave the ODIs for us

From: P_R on 13th August 2011 08:06 PM [Full View]

Ok 51 all out at Jamaica was far from typical for England. So don't overcredit Strauss already

Hussain taking over from Stewart was the turning point for me in how the Eng team was perceived. They won in SL and Pakistan away (refusing light

)
And then under Vaughan defeating SA in SA, the 2005 Ashes etc.
But neither of them could keep up the tempo and build the team consistently ahead - which is what Strauss and Flower have achieved.

From: Plum on 13th August 2011 08:11 PM [Full View]

pEsunga pEsunga. ippO dhAnE Pesa muidyin. 40 varushamA oNNum ilAdhappOvE perumai pEsinavanga ippO pEsa mAttAngaLA?

From: 19thmay on 13th August 2011 08:14 PM [Full View]

Congratulations England

Flawless,just amazing. As the series progressed England was getting better and better, Indians were just sliding.
Should be the worst series for Sachin even if he hits 100 @ Oval.

Cook was nearing 300 but team India was struggling to score 250. Our strike bowlers vs England bowlers... come on I think I can't sleep tonight!

From: 19thmay on 13th August 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

The way we lose our number one spot was quite unbelievable. In the past 12 innings we have never made 300+ and that tells that we are actually losing #1 gradually.

Raina payyan paavam he was playing world cup, IPL, WI tour, Eng tour. This is how you spoil a good player. Really sorry for Raina.

From: ajithfederer on 13th August 2011 08:34 PM [Full View]

Remember me saying that the 74 month reign Aus had is simply unattainble and you saying the youngsters will help us reach there

.

Easily the darkest day in Indian cricket. Ranks above even the 3-0 in 1999/00 australian tour. At-least we had excuses then. Hopefully these guys learn their lessons. Well done England, Number 1 varradhu kashhtam illa, let's see how long you reign there.

Originally Posted by 19thmay

The way we lose our number one spot was quite unbelievable. In the past 12 innings we have never made 300+ and that tells that we are actually losing #1 gradually.

Raina payyan paavam he was playing world cup, IPL, WI tour, Eng tour. This is how you spoil a good player. Really sorry for Raina.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 13th August 2011 08:54 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Should be the worst series for Sachin even if he hits 100 @ Oval.

Not just for sachin, but for the entire team. Clearly outplayed and demoralised. Brings me back memories of the 2007 world cup.

From: sathya_1979 on 13th August 2011 09:02 PM [Full View]

Fall and Rise - This is what we expect. Start winning and this ignominy will be forgotten

From: Bala (Karthik) on 13th August 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Btw, all this apart, has there been any murmur about Praveen Kumar's action?
It seems very suspect to me. Particularly when viewed from the side, the final delivery has a bend and release which seems quite chuck-like.
Anyone else feels this way?

Find of the tour, gives his best and all that, of course.

+1

Akhtar
Garbajan (modhalla)
Mallinga
Jeff Thomson (lighta)
Botha
Murali
Manoj Prabhakaran
Rajesh Chaugan

Lighta doubt irukkathaan seyyudhu

From: Bala (Karthik) on 13th August 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Worst series..........

From: 19thmay on 13th August 2011 11:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Remember me saying that the 74 month reign Aus had is simply unattainble and you saying the youngsters will help us reach there

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Easily the darkest day in Indian cricket. Ranks above even the 3-0 in 1999/00 australian tour. At-least we had excuses then. Hopefully these guys learn their lessons. Well done England, Number 1 varradhu kashhtam illa, let's see how long you reign there.

Oh yeah I said so! But the Indian cricketers calendar is always busy. If there is no IPL I am sure Raina would have played well. Whom to blame?
Seri you have organized a series after IPL, how can you send Team B when we are ranked 1? Thimiru thaane? As like Squirrel helped Raman, WI helped England by snatching 1 or 2 points from India.

BCCI stop using cricketers as prostitutes.

From: venkkiram on 14th August 2011 01:07 AM [Full View]

பேட்டிங், பௌலிங் இரண்டுமே ஒன்றோடொன்று பரஸ்பரம் உதவி செய்துகொண்டால் மட்டுமே ஒவ்வொரு துறையிலும் உள்ள குறைபாட்டை நிவர்த்தி செய்ய முடியும். அப்படி நடக்காமல் போனதால் மட்டுமே இப்படி மூன்று டெஸ்டுகளிலும் படு தோல்வியை சந்திக்க நேரிட்டது. இந்தத் தொடர் முழுவதும் எனக்கு இங்கிலாந்து பேட்டிங் Vs இந்தியா பௌலிங் என்பதை விட, இந்தியா பேட்டிங் Vs இங்கிலாந்து பௌலிங் என்ற கண்ணோட்டத்திலேயே பார்க்கத் தோன்றுகிறது. பெரும்பாலான நேரங்களில் டிராவிட் மட்டுமே தனியாளாக நின்று விளையாடினார். மற்றவர்களுக்கு ஒழுங்கு மற்றும் கன்சிஸ்டன்சி இல்லை.

முதல் டெஸ்டில்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 1: 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 240 ரன்கள் 84 ஓவர்கள்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 2 : 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 225 ரன்கள் 86 ஓவர்கள்

இரண்டாம் டெஸ்டில்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 1: 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 273 ரன்கள் 88 ஓவர்கள்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 2 : 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 55 ரன்கள் 26 ஓவர்கள்

மூன்றாம் டெஸ்டில்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 1: 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 100 ரன்கள் 35 ஓவர்கள்
இன்னிங்க்ஸ் 2 : 6 விக்கட்டுக்கள் இழப்பில் 89 ரன்கள் 33 ஓவர்கள்

நம்மால் ஒரு இன்னிங்க்ஸில் கூட குறைந்தது ஒரு நாள் (90 ஓவர்கள்) முழுவதும் நின்று ரன் குவிக்க முடியவில்லை. பேட்டிங் மட்டுமே நமது வலுவான அடித்தளம். அதுவே பழுதடைந்து கிடக்கிறது.

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 04:48 AM [Full View]

There's a reason why I think test cricket will die now...unless certain results go the right way next few months. It will anyway die in India atleast because the teeming millions of new generation only like winners unlike us who watched through decades of underperformance - Dhoni already seems to have lost a big chunk of his goodwill from the world cup.

England's hope is a resurgent Australia - while England will enjoy thrashin them, aussie public will not. They are the kind of racehorse owners who shoot down losing horses. Cricket is already slipping behind aussie rules footie. It might be in England's long term interest to deliberately lose the next Ashes, which is sure to revive Aussie interest in Test Cricket
I am not sure what to root for now given this

That's why I said AL illAdha tea kadai.
Before the series, a lot of cricinfo-type Indian commenters were chest-thumping at Guardian commentboards that they'll crush England. Now, English chest-thumpers there are going "yaaravadhu indhiya naai vaangadaa inge - ippo naanga pesarom" but none turns up. These two equal but oppsite fans are the ones that fund Cricket now.
Only thing is the advantage for Test Cricket when England are crap is that their fans still pay to watch.

India(new generation) and Australia will not patronise a sport they are losing in.so sorry feeyaar you'll have to face an empty teakadai only.

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 05:02 AM [Full View]

I like this - indian media questioning Dhoni if it is time for any of the big 3 to retire.
After THIS series.
First find a reliable #6 maadern youth batsman.

Or see Yuvi scoring a 100 in india and force Dravid to retire. Then go to oz with Yuvi at #5.
The media circus is on already. The fublic will not be far behind

I think the gentleman in Rahul might be feeling the pressure to announce retirement already.

Let's replace him with who - maybe Plaha as batsman?

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 05:19 AM [Full View]

Urban Legend: Worlf will end in 2012
What happened in 2011: American economy continues to take a punding. The "clash of civilisations" continues unrelentingly. Lanka continues to violate human rights without remorse.

And England become #1 in a sport.
Surely, it is no longer an urban legend?

(Twitter folks have my explicit permission to reproduce this without any obligation to credit me.)

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 07:33 AM [Full View]

ellAm sari but feeyaar, ungALunga kitta solli nalla nicknames vechu kudunga. Straussy, Trotty, Swanny, Broadynuttu. nEthu Strauss said "Cooky did well to bat two days".
The Hindu reported it as "Cookie batted for two days".
Scary thought, that. Even a humble Biscuit, or for that matter (Gooch's) Belly can bat for two days against this Indian bowling attack.

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 07:37 AM [Full View]

When is the next South Africa vs South Africa 'A' (cum Ireland) series?
That should be the new battle for #1.

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 07:44 AM [Full View]

Anil Kumble says it out loud:
"England were too good for India, which some fans might find it difficult to digest"

I know exactly what you mean, Anil. I read between the lines and take it you share our pain. Hopefully, that will mean something for if someone can stand up to the Board and talk for the players and against the stupid schedule, it's you.

From: Plum on 14th August 2011 07:46 AM [Full View]

Mr N Seenu, the best thing you can do for Indian Cricket now is to divert some of the ill-gotten gains from IPL to buy Cook, Broad, Swann, Timmy The Bresnan, Inspector Andersen etc for CSK and blunt their test match game.

Idhu choice illai unga kadamai. Idhaiyaavadhu seyyum

From: Siv.S on 14th August 2011 11:17 AM [Full View]

To The Moon And Back

With their worst performance in 12 years, the crown finally slips out of India's loose grip. A thought goes out to Anil Kumble's vision document, written when he had become India’s Test captain in 2007.

Kumble outlined eight ways to take Indian cricket forward. The document called for — among other things — transparency in selection, better inter-personal relationships in the team (particularly between seniors and juniors) and the need to play aggressive cricket while adhering to the game's spirit. You don’t associate long-term planning with Indian cricket. Kumble’s vision was a rarity.

The objective of playing sport is winning — series, championships, medals, trophies and World Cups. Champions set themselves big targets. Rafael Nadal plays for Grand Slams. He no longer turns up at Chennai Open. Usain Bolt ran for Olympic gold. The CWG didn’t matter.

When Australia won the 1999 World Cup, they made winning again their No. 1 priority. They sought players who could help them do it.

Champion teams win more often because they know what it takes to win — talented players, their best replacements, investing faith in their abilities. Above all, they know when to unleash these players.

Clive Lloyd identified his need for speed in 1976. His army of pace bowlers changed the course of cricket’s history. It led to legislations seeking to blunt their lethal effectiveness.

In 1984, when Kim Hughes walked away in tears, Allan Border instilled mental toughness in the team. He and Bob Simpson made Australia the team that snatched wins from the jaws of defeat. They prepared a cricketing behemoth for the future.

India’s Short Reign

This brings us back to India. The parameters of success defined above hardly explain how India won top honours in all three formats. But it may explain why they are no longer No. 1 in Test cricket.

How did India get there? Between Sri Lanka in 2008 and England in 2011, India played 11 Test series, won eight and lost none. In the same period, Australia also played 11, won five and lost five. South Africa played eight, won three and lost one.

Clearly, there was only one team worthy of being No. 1 in this small period. India won in most conditions, against most opponents, in some of the direst situations.

The BCCI didn’t plan on being No. 1. But once there, they could only offer short-term fixes to keep India there: by hastily arranging more Test matches. Resultantly, this exhausted, injury-hit squad has now produced its worst show since 2000, when they were beaten 3-0 in Australia.

This was a series that carried weight and context, something not offered by cash-rich T20 competitions, which have provided cheap thrills and countless
injuries. Imagine George Foreman winning the Rumble In The Jungle because Muhammad Ali came to the fight with his right arm sprained from playing carrom. That is what India's predicament feels like.

Going forward, India have a cricket calendar packed tight as a Virar local. And they must ask themselves: from this huge buffet of cricket, what is most important to them? What do they want to win? What do they want to give to their millions of fans, who took great pride in the team’s champion status?

Disaster in Australia?

Just six days after the England tour, MS Dhoni, Sachin Tendulkar, Gautam Gambhir, Harbhajan Singh and a bunch of other Indians will turn up for the Champions League — a 17-day cash-rich exercise in frivolity, which has more in common with the WWE than proper cricket.

No doubt, exhausted muscles will be strained more. Injuries will be worsened. But it’s not the players who seem to be bothered. When the Board has its cricketing priorities warped, why blame the players?

Then follow England and West Indies’ tours to India, which will occupy all mind-space from October to December. And then starts the tour which matters. India will be in Australia till March for four Tests and 11 ODIs.

Sourav Ganguly said recently that he had asked for three warm-up games a year in advance for the 2003-4 tour. Having prepared well, India went into the first Test at Brisbane — where Australia have not lost a Test since 1988 — and punched above their weight. And they did so throughout the series.This time, India will have just one practice game. Meanwhile, Australia would be ready for them having played New Zealand at home. What chance will you give this tired, under-prepared Indian squad of winning in Australia?

With such poor short-term planning, what chance will you give India of becoming No. 1 again in the longer run?

Who Are Your Replacements?

Remember Jaidev Unadkat? He made a shock debut in Centurion when Zaheer Khan broke down. This was a statement from India’s selection panel. That if the 19-year-old uncapped rookie could substitute India’s best pace bowler, he must be a special talent.

If so, why was he dumped after one Test? If not, what was the thinking behind his selection?

What wrong did Abhimanyu Mithun do to not be considered in Zaheer’s place when he had bowled his heart out in Sri Lanka only months before?The only thing Unadkat’s selection achieved was — surprise, surprise — pump up his price at the IPL auction because he was now a ‘capped’ Indian player.

Also consider the case of Ranadeb Bose. 57 wickets in 8 Ranji matches in 2006-7. Selected for the tour of England. Benched throughout. Never selected again. How does a cricketer considered among India’s top 30 drop off the radar without getting a chance to play?

There are other examples.

Sudeep Tyagi, Pankaj Singh, Umesh Yadav, Mithun, Vinay Kumar and Ashok Dinda have all represented India in recent times. Irfan Pathan is on the fringes. Yet, when Zaheer gets injured in England, RP Singh — who hasn’t played a Test since 2008 — is named as the replacement.

This tells us two things.

One: our selectors can’t decide who India’s best players are. Players will be used and thrown as seen fit (Dravid is a great example), and they won't get as much as a phone call explaining why they’ve been dropped. When selectors can't determine who their No. 1, 2, 3, 4 players are, they will pick and drop them in any order.

Two: Nobody discusses this enough but perhaps these selection decisions are influenced by external forces — king-makers and sports marketers with dressing room access. These are people who stand to gain financially when their players get air-time.

Biased Selections?
Many cricketers such as Dhoni and Harbhajan have business interests in talent spotting and management companies. As for Dhoni, he has a clear commercial interest in picking players backed by Rhiti Sports — Harbhajan, RP and Suresh Raina.Could this explain why Harbhajan was given a long rope despite his horrifically bad form and how RP is back when he wasn’t even part of India’s plans all this while?
Despite the wonderful things that Dhoni has done as captain, it is worrying that some of his selections may have not been influenced by cold, hard cricketing reason. If so, it betrays a cricket-loving public that believes these men represent them, the republic of India, the tri-colour, not a management firm.
Long story short, our selectors — despite being paid well — could do a far better job. But then, what hope do they have when they are led by a man who can’t see the problem in naming his mediocre cricketer son on the India ‘A’ team? What does the son do? He turns in mediocre performances. This isn’t the way to build a great team.

What About Fitness & Training?

As the England tour showed, too many players returned to the team having certified themselves fit. Nearly all of them broke down again. What about the rehabilitation process? What about gently bringing them back into the team after a few practice matches? Where is the independent opinion on their fitness?

Take a look at the NCA. Is it a finishing school? A starting school? A rehab centre? The country’s premier cricket academy does not even have a clearly defined role in shaping the future of Indian cricket.

Yesterday, Ravi Shastri asked Ganguly on air where India’s next crop of pace bowlers is. The irony is hard to miss here. Shastri should have known the answer. After all, he was the chairman of the Academy for three years. Except that he was rarely available for NCA duties, thanks to his media commitments.

These are symptoms of larger problems of conflicting interests within the BCCI ecosystem. Why bother about the small matter of playing bat and ball when you have court cases to fight and money to make?

Meanwhile, the man who didn't tire giving India's batsmen throw-downs has moved to South Africa. And Duncan Fletcher, a British citizen, brought a team full of young bowlers to Lord's and forgot to tell them about its famous slope. He also expressed surprise that the ball swings and seams in England.

http://cricket.yahoo.com/blogs/artic...and-back_15039

From: sankara1970 on 14th August 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

Well done England for exposing the weekness of Indian players- a long run of fluke successes ends for Dhoni-
Now time for BCCI realise the importance of test cricket
Selectors are responsible for selecting injured players and that mainly attributed to India's failure.
Fitness should be proved before start of any tournament.
a team B should be ready for future games as we have more aged players now than any other team.
Cricket fans are been taken for granted and it should not happen again
England fully deserve!

From: sankara1970 on 14th August 2011 01:51 PM [Full View]

Yes. this series is an eye opener for players, media and fans.
Cricketers are not gods.
England team, utilized home conditions, completely outplayed Indian team

From: HonestRaj on 14th August 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

ஆடுகளம் சரியில்லை: பிளெட்சர் குற்றச்சாட்டு

http://dinamani.com/edition/story.as...42&SEO=&Title=

award ellam kuduthanglE

From: 19thmay on 14th August 2011 11:08 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sankara1970

Well done England for exposing the weekness of Indian players- a long run of fluke successes ends for Dhoni-

Idhu ennadhu? How is it possible? Udambe machama irundha thaan undu...

Vivek and Dhamu in Badri

Dhaamu : Avvanukku avvalo perusuda!!
Vivek : Enna Enna?
Dhaamu : Macham ...
Vivek : Macham avvalo perusaava irukum?

From: 19thmay on 14th August 2011 11:23 PM [Full View]

"The batting did not click for us. In the Indian side, if batting clicks everything clicks. We also did not do well in bowling and fielding." - Srikanth

enna thaan solla vara?

From: 19thmay on 14th August 2011 11:25 PM [Full View]

"You cannot go on with 35 or 38-year-olds till eternity. There might be slowing down of the reflexes, weakening of eyesight etc. So we need to infuse new talent," - Arun Lal

Sachin/Laxman/Dravid : Neeyellam pesura alavuku aaiduchEpa!!!

From: kid-glove on 15th August 2011 12:41 AM [Full View]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/14503252.stm

Brian Close says this England Test side is not best ever

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 15th August 2011 12:57 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Sachin/Laxman/Dravid : Neeyellam pesura alavuku aaiduchEpa!!!

Ivangellam thirunthavemaatanga. Once the trio start performing again they will sing paeans and will call irreplacable. Intha arun lol neo cricketla panra attagasam oorukae theriyume. Avanellam seiousaa eduthukittu

From: ajithfederer on 15th August 2011 12:59 AM [Full View]

Who is brian close?

Originally Posted by kid-glove

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/14503252.stm

Brian Close says this England Test side is not best ever

From: kid-glove on 15th August 2011 01:09 AM [Full View]

Google might help.

From: kid-glove on 15th August 2011 01:11 AM [Full View]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Close

Doesn't have to matter really, he makes many valid points invalidating England's achievement which is extremely fine by me.

From: V_S on 15th August 2011 04:04 AM [Full View]

Thanks a bunch k_g for sharing Brian Close's thoughts about England Cricket teams and overall test and first class cricket. Memorable moments listening to him. Even at 80 he is very sharp and remembers every other team and its cricketers.

Some excellent points and nice tips to take away.

1. In test cricket, the bowlers and fielders sets the questions and batsmen finds the answers. In limited over game, it reversed it and spoiled the standard of bowling. Batting is only a relative strength to bowling side.
2. Bowlers make a test side.
3. As a captain, going to wicket keeper often to judge the bowler if he is thinking so that he will be able to make the batsmen thinking. wow!
4. After a batsmen scored plenty of run last day, he will call him and ask him to play under nets next day in back foot for ten minutes, so that he does not get carried away. Wonderful.

When asked about the best cricket team, he mentions 70's WI team but that too only as a nastiest bowling side, but did not commit on batting side. When he was mentioning the team under Clive Lloyd, especially bowlers, interwiever intervened with naming 'Viv Richards' he cuts back and says 'Wait a minute' and continues mentioning Wayne Daniel and so on. These guys are always in a hurry

Very educational interview, Thanks again k_g.

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 06:16 AM [Full View]

Mr Bird-Watch Laalu, varalARu theyiyAma pEsa kUdAdhu.
Do you know why you were named Arun? Because youir own parents predicted when you were born that you'll struggle to score more than A Run any time.
nInga 28 vayasula irundhadhai vida fit and formA dhEn irukkAinga.

adhum pOga, remind me what super-fit Raina, Mukunda and Bhajana did in this series

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 06:19 AM [Full View]

2007 T20 WC jeyichavuNE, fearless small town new generation unlike old losers like Laxman, Dravid, Kuble apdinnu peethikittAngaLE.
Maadern, youth, show your faces please. Dravid, Laxman, Sachin pinnAdi ninnukittu veeram kAttum iLa raththangaLE where are you now?
What happened to your fearless small-town veeram? Maadern generasan indhiyanE mugam kAttu pArkkalAm?

From: venkkiram on 15th August 2011 08:45 AM [Full View]

Batting hasn't clicked in the series: Srikkanth

http://im.rediff.com/cricket/2011/aug/14ssld1.jpg

If you see the Future Tours Programme, all countries are playing cricket 365 days a year whether England or Australia. It is not the Indians only. The fact is that cricket is being played the whole year in whatever format -- Test, ODI or Twenty20. So I don't think that it is the fatigue factor for the performance in England,"

IWe have to accept that England were the better side and they won the series. Batting did not click for us. In the Indian side, if batting clicks everything clicks. We also did not do well in bowling and fielding. England bowling attack is ideally suited for the conditions. Their three pacers were able to extract the maximum from the pitches which suited them more than our players

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 09:12 AM [Full View]

England don't play IPL which makes a huge difference to their Test form. Simple.
All is not lost - English players did not turn down IPL riches like Mitchell J and M Clarke did. IPL turned them down. All of them, including the pure and pristine Alastair Cook, put themselves up for auction.

If Mallya, Ambani etc want to serve Indian Cricket - as they claim to - they just need to splash a few million dollars at these folks. All their love for Test Cricket will automatically vanish. I think they were willing to peddle their services for as low as $100000 in IPL-4. Should not be an expensive affair.

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 09:25 AM [Full View]

There is so much BCCI can do to ensure India dominates on and off the field for decades to come. Simple things, that too. Temptation and Greed - White Man is as suscrptible to these vices as any other. It just takes some basic intelligence to exploit this, divide and rule World Cricket. I reckon Jagmohan Dalmia understands this. But Pawar, Seenu mama and co. are mere opportunists incapable of planning long-term domination. They just know to capitalise on the accidental riches they have stumbled into, and kill the Golden Goose that the Indian players and paying public are. Sad.

From: P_R on 15th August 2011 09:30 AM [Full View]

Excellent intree

k_g

I don't understand trashing the trio. Dravid has been the only performer in this series. Sachin showed a couple of knocks of promise only to collapse.
Dhoni's knocks in this match no doubt saved face. But they weren't actually stay-to-build-the-innings knocks. His position (combined with the comparative non-reliability of the Indian tail) and his natural manner dictated a whirlwind game - but I guess such innings' can only be played in such 'vandhavarai laabam' situations. I would say even Raina's innings in Lord's was this variety. Gambhir was promising at Lord's and that's about it. The way he perished compels one to downgrade him. Same for Gambhir, Yuvraj, Mukund. Sehwag - unnai ellAm kEkka aaL illAma pOchchu.

Sachin and Dravid showed some application - obviously their experience showed - to ask for their heads is absurd. That a disappointing show from seems to guarantee a collapse is itself symptomatic of the problem being elsewhere.

This is the ground where Kumble made a century last time and KKD - who was much less talented than Gambhir and Sehwag, but now in hindsight, seems to have possessed more application in many occasions- played an excellent knock.

Let us see if they are able to not lose this one.

From: P_R on 15th August 2011 09:32 AM [Full View]

And btw this is Laxman's best run in England ever. So kondhaLippOr, idhai karuththil koLga.

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 15th August 2011 10:15 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Excellent intree

k_g

I don't understand trashing the trio. Dravid has been the only performer in this series. Sachin showed a couple of knocks of promise only to collapse.
Dhoni's knocks in this match no doubt saved face. But they weren't actually stay-to-build-the-innings knocks. His position (combined with the comparative non-reliability of the Indian tail) and his natural manner dictated a whirlwind game - but I guess such innings' can only be played in such 'vandhavarai laabam' situations. I would say even Raina's innings in Lord's was this variety. Gambhir was promising at Lord's and that's about it. The way he perished compels one to downgrade him. Same for Gambhir, Yuvraj, Mukund. Sehwag - unnai ellAm kEkka aaL illAma pOchchu.

Sachin and Dravid showed some application - obviously their experience showed - to ask for their heads is absurd. That a disappointing show from seems to guarantee a collapse is itself symptomatic of the problem being elsewhere.

This is the ground where Kumble made a century last time and KKD - who was much less talented than Gambhir and Sehwag, but now in hindsight, seems to have possessed more application in many occasions- played an excellent knock.

Let us see if they are able to not lose this one.

Completely agree with you.Its always been a trend for the media to nitpick on the trio for no damn reason. If not for them this team would have sunk even further leave alone the number one ranking.In any case I dont see any new player who can replace them atm.In this regard i hope they chuck out raina and bring in kohli just as an experiment to see how he fares. Series anyway gaali, So its worth a try

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 10:19 AM [Full View]

KKD is much-derided when others cash in on Free Lunches on Indian pitches. Yet, what he gave the Indian test team is much more than any other young gun. He did al that despite constatnt uncertainty about his role. With the right management and captain - read Andy Flower and Andy Strauss - he would have been a succesful test cricketer. Not to mention mentality of fans, selectors etc.

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 10:31 AM [Full View]

Raina will be useful provided 5 other good, reliable batsmen evolve around him, He is better than Morgan and look how Morgan thrives in the England environment.
In this tour, Sachin and Lax had relative failures and Raina was exposed. Kohli is promising in the long run but in the short term, it is wishful to believe he'd have done better than Raina.
For my money, Pujara's the man, provided he gets opportunities. He will never dazzle right away and like Dravid, will take 30-40 tests to perform big deeds and will need patience and indulgence.
We must really stop selecting the test team based on LOI performances - read Yuvraj Singh - that too LOI matches in India.

The simple formula for India's ascent to #1 was the Indian batting might - and Zaheer Khan. That might fails to perform big tricks once in a while. And we suffer in that series when that happens. It is amazing how the team collapses - Lanka 08 and this tour - when the middle order has a relative failure. Yet, a lot of others claim credit when India wins.

Atleast now it must be clear to people that #1 status was the blood and sweat of Rahul, Sachin, VVS, Anil and even Saurav. Others - except Zaheer and to some extent Dhoni and Harbhajan - clearly have been bit part players and have no right yet to claim any part of it unless they buck up now and regain it on their own.

From: P_R on 15th August 2011 10:34 AM [Full View]

KKD was promising but he squandered one too many opportunities. And as a wk, there is that incremental bar to cross to merit selection.
And surely Kohli and Raina are better talents - though the latter is beginning to test patience now.

From: P_R on 15th August 2011 10:52 AM [Full View]

Flau, he didn't do well in SA. We've just seen that one innings in Aus.
Kohli did well in the ODIs in SA. I don't mean number of runs, he was timing the ball sweetly and made the batting conditions look easier than they were. I was surprised at his failure in the test series in WI. In an ideal world he would play in the Oval match.

Unfortunately Raina will be picked for Harbhajani reasons- he has demonstrate the capacity to bowl 30 overs rather decently

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 11:47 AM [Full View]

That would be a captain-manage failure. Is Duncan Donuts anything more than a dummy piece in this set-up? If yes, what is his purpose? If no, will he take such decisions?
Kohli who knows - his military medium seam might be more useful in England than Raina's pies

From: MADDY on 15th August 2011 12:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

2007 T20 WC jeyichavuNE, fearless small town new generation unlike old losers like Laxman, Dravid, Kuble apdinnu peethikittAngaLE.
Maadern, youth, show your faces please. Dravid, Laxman, Sachin pinnAdi ninnukittu veeram kAttum iLa raththangaLE where are you now?
What happened to your fearless small-town veeram? Maadern generasan indhiyanE mugam kAttu pArkkalAm?

r u saying this abt Dhoni and his fans??

From: MADDY on 15th August 2011 01:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Atleast now it must be clear to people that #1 status was the blood and sweat of Rahul, Sachin, VVS, Anil and even Saurav. Others - except Zaheer and to some extent Dhoni and Harbhajan - clearly have been bit part players and have no right yet to claim any part of it unless they buck up now and regain it on their own.

what was our team's rankings and win-loss record till 2008 and after??

VVS, Sachin, Dravid are also part of this team too - so this drubbing means they stopped sweating and are relaxing?? i dont get the whole point of dividing the team into 2 parts and bashing one part of it......

From: P_R on 15th August 2011 01:06 PM [Full View]

btw cue for pirithaaLum soozchi: Atherton aNNan dhaan 'should oldies retire' maadhiri abaththamaana kELviyai kEttadhu.

From: MADDY on 15th August 2011 01:24 PM [Full View]

i think Ajay's statement that current teams show more character than previous teams sparks off Plum's tirade against current team........on Ajay's behalf, i can surely say, he didnt mean sachin, ganguly, dravid or laxman, kumble lacked the "character"......im sure it was a statement more for abey kuruvillas, paras mhambereys, sameer Dighes and Ajit agarkars.........and that too it was not after a single series defeat or anything - it was for a set of players for performances over a period of time........

From: Saai on 15th August 2011 01:42 PM [Full View]

It is more hurting that our guys lost the number one ranking to England......instead of a team like South africa....I dont think English bowlers bolwed half as menacing as what steyn and morkel bowled in the south african tour...what haffened?

From: SoftSword on 15th August 2011 05:00 PM [Full View]

sanikkizhamai indha oorula naanga patta avamaanam engalukku dhaan theriyum...
ponadhu pogattum...
WC win pannappo thalaila thookki vechu aadunom... ippo world no.1 ponadhum kaalula pottu medhikka naan thayaaraa illa...
i stand by the team... i stand by the captain... i stand by the trio.. and the bowlers who tried their best...
now we have nothing more to lose, lets give our best in the last test is what i am anticipating on.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 15th August 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Saai

It is more hurting that our guys lost the number one ranking to England......instead of a team like South africa....I dont think English bowlers bolwed half as menacing as what steyn and morkel bowled in the south african tour...what haffened?

But According to some, James Anderson, Stuart Broad and Swann are best bowlers around in te current era

From: SoftSword on 15th August 2011 05:55 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

But According to some, James Anderson, Stuart Broad and Swann are best bowlers around in te current era

if you are not part of the 'some', why are u bothered about those 'some'.

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 06:36 PM [Full View]

Softie, the team doesn't become bad overnight but the lack of fight is perplexing.

Maddy, india was full of pop-psychologists after the 2007 T20WC talking about the new psychological make-up of the young, small-town Indian etc etc. - and took clear potshots at the old order.
My point is it is clear that what has sponsored the indian stay at top is clearly the mental strength of the old order. When they fail to find the funds for one series, this team goes bankrupt. Btw, I missed Viru in the previous post of the architects of Indian rise. He is not exactly small-town either. The point is a loss was expected in this series but the lack of fight and guts in the modern, small-town, fearless Indian(acc to pop-psychologists) is in a way, very satisfying for me.

I think Dhoni will find a way soon but he clearly needs to answer somequestions now - how he responds will define his greatness for posterity.

Meanwhile, I'd like to take a punt on RP and Kohli in the final test. Possibly even Mukund with an explicit indication to Viru that he is dropped - that should stoke some fire in the feller.

From: SoftSword on 15th August 2011 06:54 PM [Full View]

i understand that plum...
even am wondering where that mental strength and morale of the team gone...
and thats when the topic of fletcher also came...
he is as influential in this loss as how influential kirsten was in our winning runs...

aduttha series enna?

From: sathya_1979 on 15th August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

Champions league T20

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

Reg. Fletcher, it is pathetic that he is saying he is surprised to see the amount of swing/seam in England. Eh?
We know the problem. What is your solution? That's what you were recruited for - your expertise on England. I think he is winging it on-the-job. He was washed-up when England, quite smartly, dumped him

From: sathya_1979 on 15th August 2011 07:06 PM [Full View]

I have a sinister feeling that the players are sending in a message to ad films and BCCI - You keep killing us with overdose of entertainment, making us clowns. We fu*k up on the field. Your TRP and revenues dip. You cannot take us for a ride. Some kind of passive aggression.

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 07:07 PM [Full View]

BtW, these days ECB, English media and supporters talk as if they scouted for a coach who will take them to #1, and evaluated Flower and found he is the person to do the job. That is, they planned to get here.
Truth is that even after Moores was sacked, whole English media was pooh-poohing Flower as permanent successor. Even Guardian, the best of British media, had writers who were talking of Flower as stop-gap.
Time. Destiny. Fate. Stars. Planets. All have aligned for England - they'll capitalise on this now. And talk - for once, they'll have a worthy team to talk about though.

From: sathya_1979 on 15th August 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Tremlett out and Anderson doubtful for 4th test

From: Plum on 15th August 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

Oh no - now we have to lose to a depleted England team and give them further ammunition to crow

From: sathya_1979 on 15th August 2011 10:02 PM [Full View]

Onions called up, avan vEra vandhu azha vekka pOraan

From: MADDY on 16th August 2011 02:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

The point is a loss was expected in this series but the lack of fight and guts in the modern, small-town, fearless Indian(acc to pop-psychologists) is in a way, very satisfying for me.

I think Dhoni will find a way soon but he clearly needs to answer some questions now - how he responds will define his greatness for posterity.

lack of fight was evident with seniors too in this tour except for Dravid......this(including sachin) is a world cup winning squad in T20 and ODI formats and has rose to no.1 in tests, i would give them some more time before dismissing them.......im sure the combination of current youngsters+3 seniors is much more fruitful and is >>>>>> sameer dighes and yohanans+3 seniors in 90s and early 2000s.....

Annan Dhoni does not need to answer anyone for any questions for anything

From: ajaybaskar on 16th August 2011 02:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

i think Ajay's statement that current teams show more character than previous teams sparks off Plum's tirade against current team........on Ajay's behalf, i can surely say, he didnt mean sachin, ganguly, dravid or laxman, kumble lacked the "character"......im sure it was a statement more for abey kuruvillas, paras mhambereys, sameer Dighes and Ajit agarkars.........and that too it was not after a single series defeat or anything - it was for a set of players for performances over a period of time........

ஊருக்கு போய் மூணு நாள் பொழுத ஓட்டிட்டு வர்றதுக்குள்ள என்னைய வச்சு ஒரு சண்டைய இழுத்துட்டீங்க.. நல்லா இருங்க சார்.. நல்லா இருங்க..

From: Plum on 16th August 2011 04:01 PM [Full View]

Maddy, I dont think you got what I am saying. It is not about who is to blame - like the TV Channels do - it is about what is happening when the seniors dont step up. That shows what was holding the successes together so far. There is something called scoreboard pressure - England are benefittng from it now; without it, they'll not be winning so crushingly - and the greatness of the Big 3 is that they built that pressure consistently which enabled us to win or square series even with Abhimanyu Mithuns and co.

In the current series, there was no fight from the team. If you credit Dhoni for the winning environment when the team was winning, then questions will be asked of him when the team is being obliterated like this. And their willingness to be crushed - and absolute lack of intent and waiting for England to declare etc. Note that if we merely lost, there would be nothing to explain. When we lose like this, someone needs to own up. Someone in a responsible position.

Again, I have sympathies for Dhoni because of the workload on him - and clearly, BCCI is to blame for this fiasco more. But if you say Dhoni has zero questions to answer, that is a fanboy speaking.

From: Plum on 16th August 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

The point is quite simple actually - Our rise to #1 was despite lacking good bowling resources. That should be the cue to understand the individual greatness of our batsmen, and single-handed bowling efforts by the Kumbles, Zaheers and sometimes, even Harbhajans. All said and done, Bhajji did win us the Cape Town test this year.

Isnt it easier to do it with Mcgrath, Gillespie, Warne and Lee(Kaspro, Fleming, Bichel etc )? How good the individuals need to be if we have to be #1 for 19 months with only about 6-7 world class members in the team?

Actually, that is my throwback at gloating English fans. "We were #1 with Mithun, Mukund, Vijay, Raina, Undakatti et al in the team. That's how bloody good the rest are. Do you have players that good ?"

From: raajarasigan on 16th August 2011 04:11 PM [Full View]

இந்த சீரிஸ் பார்க்கும் போது ஏன் தான் நெம்பர் 1 ஆணோமொன்னு இருக்கு..

From: SoftSword on 16th August 2011 04:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

இந்த சீரிஸ் பார்க்கும் போது ஏன் தான் நெம்பர் 1 ஆணோமொன்னு இருக்கு..

This is the power of defeat/loss.
it makes one feel worthless eventhough he has seen victories which are bigger than this defeat.

From: MADDY on 16th August 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

But if you say Dhoni has zero questions to answer, that is a fanboy speaking.

u said he has to set things right, after a series defeat to maintain his future image - theva illa cos he has achieved so much and need not prove anything more......let history say whatever it wants to - neither he nor we never care abt record books and account ledgers

From: raghavendran on 16th August 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

Dhoni will be feeling the heat now..feel for him...first even i got pissed off,then i just took the mind off the series...but whatever we did went wrong...we are a better side than this..definitely there is no clear number 1 today...few teams are closely matched and are fighting towards it..idhula sarukardhum,yerardhum sagajam...but after 4 yrs...dunno what will happen..nowadays players career starts from T20-ODI-TEST....this routine must change..lack of quality is because of this

From: Plum on 16th August 2011 08:55 PM [Full View]

Maddy, india lost badly without a fight. Captain owes some explanation. Simple, really. If you are happy with past achievements - Dhoni isn't but you are - then well, we need a different captain.
Note that Dhonis not saying it. You are.

From: raghavendran on 16th August 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Plum
it was evident Dhoni could not answer anything...what will he do other than accepting defeat...edho oru areala flopna paravailla...throughouta semma adina enna seivaru..even Ganguly,Kumble except Dravid(WC) were never in this situatIon..I MEANT THE DEFEAT..he needs a break

From: MADDY on 16th August 2011 10:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy, india lost badly without a fight. Captain owes some explanation. Simple, really. If you are happy with past achievements - Dhoni isn't but you are - then well, we need a different captain.
Note that Dhonis not saying it. You are.

we all know who he is - he has already passed ur and much more stricter detractors tests several times,,,,,,,,this is a series defeat and should be analyzed as a series defeat not as a test for Dhoni's ability to sustain his image for future or posterity nor is it any test for his ability to bounce back - andha scene ellam inga illa......

From: MADDY on 16th August 2011 10:09 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I think Dhoni will find a way soon but he clearly needs to answer somequestions now - how he responds will define his greatness for posterity.

ivalavu achievements-la theriyadha greatness ungalakku indha question-answering-la mattum theriya pogudhaa?? neenga kelvi ketkaradha niruthha maattenga - annan badhil sollitte irukka mudiyaadhu

From: Plum on 16th August 2011 10:12 PM [Full View]

Maddy, ivlo touchyA irukka avasiyamilla - or irukkungarIngaLA? Your posts say so.

From: MADDY on 16th August 2011 10:42 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Maddy, ivlo touchyA irukka avasiyamilla - or irukkungarIngaLA? Your posts say so.

yes ur comments have really hurt me and i have skipped my dinner over ur remarks over Dhoni

From: ajithfederer on 17th August 2011 04:22 AM [Full View]

BCCI accepts Kumble's suggestion(three warm-up games in their series against Australia later this year.)

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is said to have accepted the suggestion made by former Indian captain and current president of the Karnataka Cricket Association (KCA), Anil Kumble, to include three warm-up games in their series against Australia later this year.

Kumble's proposal to include two more first class games to the one already scheduled ahead of the opening Boxing Day (Dec 26) Test at Melbourne came at the Board's working committee meeting here on Monday.

Kumble said that if only one first-class game is fixed only 11 players will be able to play in it and he wanted all 16 touring members to have a competitive game before the start of the Test series by having more games. His suggestion has been accepted, sources told PTI.

The Indian squad, led by Mahendra Singh Dhoni, played a lone first class game against Somerset during the ongoing tour of England before sliding to massive defeats in the first three Tests to also lose its No. 1 Test ranking whichit had held on to for more than a year-and-a-half.

The sources also conceded it will be a tricky task for the Board to try and add more first-class games in the tune-up to the tour as there was hardly any time gap between the conclusion of the home ODI series against the West Indies and the departure of the team to Australia.

The BCCI has also written to Cricket Australia that the first-class game that is already scheduled should not be reduced to a club-level affair as it clashed with the commencement of the country's Big Bash T20 tournament.

The Board has already written (to Cricket Australia) that it should not be reduced to club-level cricket with the top players not playing, the sources said.

The lone warm-up game is to be played against Cricket Australia Chairman's XI from December 18-21 at Manuka Oval in Canberra, before the opening contest of the four-match Test series.

India play the four Tests back-to-back from December 26, 2011 to January 28, 2012 at Melbourne, Sydney

Perth and Adelaide.

India are then set to play two T20 Internationals on February 1 and 3 at Sydney and Melbourne before taking part in a triangular ODI series also featuring the hosts and Sri Lanka between February 5 and March 8.

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 08:12 AM [Full View]

Dinner skip paNnanumnuttu illai. "Dhoni is great even if he loses everything from now on because he has already achieved everything possible. apdi sollAdhavanga ellAm Dhoni haters" apdinnu establish paNNa try paNNuvadhum fan-boy touchiness dhaan.

This wasn't about Dhoni at all. Your touchy reactions made it so. Not that he'd be reacting like this - I am sure he has a far more sanguine head on his shoulders and will be thinking already about turning things around. Not resting on his laurels.
Btw, win-loss ratio for Dhoni is now half of Strauss's ratio. So fickle is life and sport. Looks likely to widen further. Strauss might end up as all time greatest captain...(if we went by a laundry list of series wins, win-loss ration etc)

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 11:23 AM [Full View]

just to make it clear, I certainly have hopes that Dhoni will turn this around on his influence alone. What's been impressive has been his calm amid the storm. And since any discussion with Maddy on this matter tends to go into "You are belittling Dhoni, No I ain't, No you are" mode, the crux of my posts get lost. It is my duty to clarify.

I have no problems if Dhoni doesnt come out and explain the loss - he doesnt need to explain why, what went wrong etc. What he needs to do is to quietly work on turning this around - including influencing the board to prioritise test matches.

What I really wrote was that any turn-around from here would be a feather on his cap. I dont think it is unfair to say that he largely inherited the #1 team(in Tests). If you doint think that this is an opportunity for him to stamp his greatness as Captain, then you are doing him a dis-service. If you think he has already achieved all possible results for a great captain, you are being in lala-land, atleast from a test match perspective.

Before this series, his win loss ratio was 4.0. It is 2.5 now. Strauss went reverse. That is how fickle those records are. That also shows the small sample size of his captaincy record. (I hope this is not interpreted as criticism of his fallen record now. I have to say this because it is often misinterpreted along those lines - deliberately or otherwise, I dont know)

So, it is very, very fair to say that the true test of Dhoni's captaincy in tests lie right ahead - and his response now will, in the objective eyes, place his greatness as captain.

I, for one, will be very happy to start with a a**-whipping of England in the Oval.

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 11:26 AM [Full View]

It was really impressive that Dhoni kept his calm with Atherton poking him on the abject performance of his team. In that place, I'd have been very tempted to shut Mr. Dirty Pockets with "Well, Mike, you know what it is to be like a losing captain whose team has been crushed. You tell me. What does that feel like? You have far more experience than me in this." Impressive that Dhoni didnt say a word in that direction.

From: MADDY on 17th August 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

now it looks like someone lost half-days' work

......

the problem what i had was ur promptness in branding the "coming tough days" as Dhoni's test rather than anyone else's.........that was really mischievous to summarise the entire drubbing on one man(of course captain takes the main blame but still) when there has been a collective failure and that too of a man, whose track record and aptitude is well known to all......innum evalavu dhaan avaru prove pannanum and how many times "this is going to be his true test" etc kind of statements.....

on who thinks wat abt dhoni in this HUB is pretty much known for all, u neednt bother to clarify actually

From: MADDY on 17th August 2011 12:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Your touchy reactions made it so. Not that he'd be reacting like this - I am sure he has a far more sanguine head on his shoulders and will be thinking already about turning things around.

oh we have under-sanguine heads on our shoulders

oru pechukku kooda sachin, seri avara vidunga, Laxman-a pathhi kooda pesave illa........bcos u feel he has already done so much and its unfair to blame him for one series failure - why shuldnt i feel the same for Dhoni.......why isnt it necessarily a test of character of other team members in coming days to restamp their authority?? why only Dhoni?

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 12:49 PM [Full View]

En Maddy? Why are you intent on branding LM, me et al constantly? What is bugging your mind exactly? We have been extremely sympathetic of Dhoni which is self-evident. Not that he needs it but since we are talking in the context of our attitude towards Dhoni. I am really disappointed at your constant snide remarks on any statement remotely connected with Dhoni that we make. I dont know why you have to pre-empt any criticisim - even when no criticism is made.

Sachin, Laxman et al earned India the #1 Status with a long history of contribution towards that.Along with the other old guard, they are the prime architects of the #1 Status that we enjoyed for 19 months. Dhoni had a minimal part to play so far. Anything in the future, if we get to #1 will be majorly attributed to Dhoni so in that sense, this is an opportunity for him to stamp his own seal on the #1 status. That is, if we ever reach #1 again and sustain it for a lengthy period of time.

This is as objective as anyone can get on this issue. And Sachin, Laxman et al can only have a minimal role in regaining the #1 status now - they are too old to launch and sustain a second world war for #1 Status. It is all in Dhoni's hands now - so the upcoming challenge cannot be a challenge for Sachin and Laxman - they can only play bit-part roles. This was the intent of my post. It is actually not critical of Dhoni at all - except for your tendency to get touch on behalf of Dhoni for imagined insults and criticism.

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 12:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

oh we have under-sanguine heads on our shoulders

No, if you read that again, what I am saying is Dhoni has a more sanguine head than yours. And, if you want me to add it, mine. Hardly an insult to you, is it?

From: MADDY on 17th August 2011 05:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

No, if you read that again, what I am saying is Dhoni has a more sanguine head than yours. And, if you want me to add it, mine. Hardly an insult to you, is it?

it can be interpreted either way, anyways i will take ur word for it now and accept ur version of the statement.....

reg LM and u, im not branding anyone........infact im asking for Dhoni's head in test team, u guys arent - im criticisng Dhoni more than anyone here......im just answering to those comments which indicate that Dhoni has got more than his due and which question his captaincy skill......also to those comments which keep expecting him to perform to prove his greatness........im surprised that if he is not a great already then what is he.......

just like sachin, laxman earned the right to be immune to criticisms on their overall career, Dhoni too has earned it - his one series defeat, which is his first, cannot bring him down to level of novice needing to prove himself again......

From: MADDY on 17th August 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Anything in the future, if we get to #1 will be majorly attributed to Dhoni so in that sense, this is an opportunity for him to stamp his own seal on the #1 status. That is, if we ever reach #1 again and sustain it for a lengthy period of time.

This is as objective as anyone can get on this issue.

i accept u r not criticisng Dhoni here but u r expecting him to turn it around for india........im only surprised why only dhoni and not Gambhir or any other young turk? and secondly this "expectation" of urs also reeks of "dhoni has to do this to be called a great" - which is not reqd......if u still cant see the fact that Dhoni is already the great - then u probably never will just like in Nadal's case........

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

Maddy, Didnt you notice that I have all but conceded that Nadal is the GOAT? Yes, I am bitter about it - openly - but I still have conceded, haven't I?

Greatness-ai vidunga. Suppose Dhoni inspires India to dethrone England as #1 Test Team - and let me state that I consider that a very remote possibility now - what does that say of his captaincy? That will be an achievement that makes his Captaincy Greatness INDSIPUTABLY the best ever. Unless you think it is already so - in which case, you'll have to hope Strauss retires soon before his team starts racking up one ruthless victory after another, or hope that England's bubble is burst - which is extremely unlikely.

Before this series, Dhoni stood apart statistically. Just a 3-0 win has put Strauss ahead of him statistically. I shudder to think how far ahead Strauss will go in the coming months - unless, as I said, he retires or is injured because if he plays as captain, his captaincy record is only going to get better.

From: MADDY on 17th August 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Greatness-ai vidunga. Suppose Dhoni inspires India to dethrone England as #1 Test Team - and let me state that I consider that a very remote possibility now - what does that say of his captaincy? That will be an achievement that makes his Captaincy Greatness INDSIPUTABLY the best ever. Unless you think it is already so - in which case, you'll have to hope Strauss retires soon before his team starts racking up one ruthless victory after another, or hope that England's bubble is burst - which is extremely unlikely.

ada, avanoda potti podava naama vandhirukkom (in overall terms i meant)

From: Plum on 17th August 2011 07:56 PM [Full View]

Avanoda dhaane ippo potti? Naan ricky-ai kooda pooraNamA mannichuttEn tjeriyumA?

From: ajithfederer on 18th August 2011 02:19 PM [Full View]

Due to my insomnia today I gazed around the net and noticed from cricinfo that there is our match today.

From: Balaji.r on 18th August 2011 02:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Due to my insomnia today I gazed around the net and noticed from cricinfo that there is our match today.

same here, not able to sleep before 2

From: ajithfederer on 18th August 2011 02:41 PM [Full View]

It's 5 here. My case is more serious. :lol

From: Balaji.r on 18th August 2011 03:07 PM [Full View]

tough indeed!!

From: 19thmay on 18th August 2011 03:30 PM [Full View]

Come on R.P ...

From: 19thmay on 18th August 2011 03:33 PM [Full View]

If India lose this, we will slip to third place.

From: SoftSword on 18th August 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

orutthan dhaan olunga pottutu irundhaan... avanukkum injury'ya??
arumai... od series'kum bowler kedayaadhu appo..

From: omega on 18th August 2011 03:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

If India lose this, we will slip to third place.

Which should be very deserving though!!!

From: Plum on 18th August 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

Let's rename the IPL as World Cricket Championship. That way the World Champions will always be Indian. indha test match, ODI WC idhellAm sarithiramAkkidalAm.
idhu dhAn amerikkan chatterjee.

From: SoftSword on 18th August 2011 04:19 PM [Full View]

rich get richer.. poor get poorer....

From: Plum on 18th August 2011 04:34 PM [Full View]

BCCI nenachA England Cricket-ai azhikka mudiyum. Lovelaiyum jeyichu life-laiyum jeyijkkalAm. IPL-um vechukittu, Test matchlaiyum jeyikkalAm. adhukku konjam England-ai aduththu kedukkaNum(Chanakyan chatterjee bala padam).

Basically, IPL riches avangaLukku pangu illaingaRadhAla dhAn they make fun of it. avangaLai involve paNNi, avangaLukku neRaiya paNam koduththOmnA, they'll agree to stage it in England at a season convenient to us. Player-ai ellAm easyA velaikku vAngidalAm. ECB sollave vENAm. Giles Clarke-ai ellAm easyA velaikku vAngalAm. Oru helicopterukkE mayanginavan dhAnE avan. We are committed to only test matches-nu solRadhellAm sour grapes.

But Pawar and co. dont have the nous or strategy to do it. Idiots! I really think it is time to give Dalmia the rein back. One of Ganguly's strong advantage was Dalmia and his backing. He gave whatever Gangs/Wright wanted to take Indian test cricket forward. I believe he is greedy like Pawar and NS but at the least, he has far more nous and intelligence to take on these English and Aussie boards and subjugate them.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 18th August 2011 04:35 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

rich get richer.. poor get poorer....

Shivaji the Boss dialogue ?

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 18th August 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

India should win or draw the ODI series, The Vikings are very "sluggish" in the shorter format of the Game

From: Plum on 18th August 2011 04:51 PM [Full View]

Even a 5-0 win in the upcoming ODI Series against England for India - which is impossible - will not compensate for the abject showing in the tests. The last I remember feeling like this is 1991-92 against Australia. Miserable. Whatever happened to the spirit forged in the last 11 years?

Dhoni has several firsts - a whitewash 4-0 might be one too. When was the last that happened to India? 1991-92 wasnt a whitewash. If there are 10 tests in this series, we'll lose all 10. We have been pwn-ed. If England tour India next month for a test series, we'll lose that also. Thankfully, that is another 2 years away. adhu varaikkum Engliskara makkaLai internet-la kaduppEthalAm - Indiavukku vandhu jeyichu kAttungadAnnu.

Meanwhile, hopefully, Ricky leads Australia to a revival with his bat. That will give some ammunition against the English after they defeat is in the India series two years down the line.

From: raajarasigan on 18th August 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

pliss to walk out and start ODI series..

From: SoftSword on 18th August 2011 06:09 PM [Full View]

an interesting session ahead!!

From: scorpio on 19th August 2011 03:19 PM [Full View]

Sunshine at the Oval today

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 19th August 2011 03:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Sunshine at the Oval today

Rain Rain Go away come back on another day

From: scorpio on 19th August 2011 03:46 PM [Full View]

Cook avuttu

From: Plum on 19th August 2011 03:55 PM [Full View]

scorps, evLO dhAn polambinAlum, match time-ku correctA Ajar AgidaRInga. nInga dhan true-fan

From: SoftSword on 19th August 2011 03:57 PM [Full View]

appo time pass'ku post panra paramu false-fan'a?

From: scorpio on 19th August 2011 04:29 PM [Full View]

Kindal pannadheenga Plum. Neenga ippollam unga chatterjee kadamaiya seriya seyya mattEngareenga.

VeikkOl & maNi has settled at the crease :yuck:

From: scorpio on 19th August 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

solli mudikkala, veikkOl avuttu

From: venkkiram on 19th August 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

112 overs ...

Kevin Pietersen 164*
Ian Bell 154*

கலக்குறாங்கப்பு!

From: venkkiram on 19th August 2011 11:28 PM [Full View]

ஆறு வாய்ப்புக்களில் கெவின் குவித்த ரன்கள் : 202*, 1, 29, 63, 63, 175 = 533

From: Plum on 19th August 2011 11:39 PM [Full View]

England 2-5 average gone to 50+. Only Trott had 50+ before this series. PodhuvA namma oru alladhu reNdu oppn batsmenai dhAn cash paNNa viduvOm.

This is probably the worst test series ever for India - any other wash-out was surely not as the #1 side in the world?

From: 19thmay on 21st August 2011 01:38 PM [Full View]

Such a disappointing series, idha naan suthama yedhirpaakala.

From: San_K on 21st August 2011 02:47 PM [Full View]

Kalavaram nadakkumpothey odi vanthirukkanum. Ippo pulambi enna proyajanam. Anyway I welcome this

From: sankara1970 on 21st August 2011 02:49 PM [Full View]

BCCI should have properly planned
Panam mattume aima vachu, IPL spoiled Indian Cricket(ers)
Fans are ready to watch cricket throughout the year
But cricketers are human beings,not machines
It's time some of the old cricketer to retire and give way for youngsters
Doesn't matter even if we have to lose some matches.
We are not ready to watch veterans trophy.
Test cricket is something very different from IPL

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Raina bags longest duck by Indian batsmen

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 04:18 PM [Full View]

45.4
Anderson to Dhoni, OUT, 136.9 kph
MS Dhoni c †Prior b Anderson 17 (50b 2x4 0x6) SR: 34.00

சொர்க்க வாசல் தொறந்தாச்சி!

From: Siv.S on 21st August 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

Dravid

400+ runs... 3 centuries.. with 82 Ave.

From: V_S on 21st August 2011 08:14 PM [Full View]

Dravid stands tall

Very proud of you!

From: sathya_1979 on 21st August 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

Dravid

carrying his bat thru and opening again! Whatta dedication! True epitome of role model!

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

Carrying bat through a completed innings

மிகவும் அரிதாய் உருவாகும் சாதனை... பட்டியலில் டிராவிட்டும் சேர்ந்தது மகிழ்ச்சி.

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...200/136258.jpg

From: GSV on 21st August 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Second innings la dravid pakkurappo romba paavama iruku..

Ennathan kilichaan gambhir vandhu vilayadavendi thaane...

From: V_S on 21st August 2011 09:38 PM [Full View]

Horrible umpiring. Gavaskar and Shastri were right. It was not 100% clear that there was a nick. How can they give this one out? Pathetic and Dubious decision.

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

மொதல்ல டிராவிட்டை விளையாட அனுமதித்ததே தவறு. ஓயாமல் விளையாடிக் களைத்து போயிருக்கும் ஒரு மனிதரை இன்னொரு முறையும் ஆட அனுமதிப்பது என்ன முடிவோ! ஓய்வு கொடுத்து நாளை அவரை விளையாட அனுமதித்திருந்தால் அதற்கான பலன் இருந்திருக்கும். தங்க முட்டை போடும் கோழியின் வயிற்றை கிழித்தது போல. சச்சின், லட்சுமணன் இரண்டில் யாரேனும் ஒருவர் தொடங்கியிருக்கலாம்.

From: venkkiram on 21st August 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

18.1
Swann to Sehwag, OUT, 82.5 kph, wonderful, wonderful bowling! Swann wins the battle! Touch of air outside off stump and it spun back quickly between bat and pad as Sehwag drove loosely and into middle stump!
V Sehwag b Swann 33 (67b 5x4 0x6) SR: 49.25

உன் பணி இத்தோடு முடிந்தது சேவகா! நிம்மதியாக ஓய்வெடுக்க புறப்படு! அடுத்த முறையும் இதுபோல ஒரு சூழ்நிலை வந்தால் சொல்லி அனுப்புகிறோம். அதுவரை Bat-ஐ பரணியில் போட்டுவிட்டு ஓய்வேடு!

From: Plum on 21st August 2011 11:07 PM [Full View]

Ha ha ha! Jai DRS. As I predicted, it is a tool to give more wrong decisions against india. Adhaavadhu by chance onfield umpire correcta kuduththaalum, use drs for a blatantly wrong reversaal.

And this is where interpretation aspect is used. Rules say reverse the decision only if ovetwhelming evidence of mistake is there with technology. If the evidence is marginal, stay with onfield decision. I predicted that reversals will happen on marginal evidence if the suffering party is india. It happened today. If it was Cook, 100 percent it would have been stay with the notout given onfield.
ICC - so predictable.
Shameless, naked use of power by anglo saxons starts...
Ladies and gentleman, please welcome the imperial cricket conference! Veto for Eng and Aus! Coming soon!

From: V_S on 22nd August 2011 03:56 AM [Full View]

Since England want to get Dravid out by any means. They were appealing for anything and everything. As we can see, the hotspot was working fine for other deliveries when it touched the bat. But the one Dravid got out, did not have any contact with the bat, as the same hotspot suggested correctly. No evidence at all. Still the third umpire ruled him out. Absurd!

There is no use of technology if the third umpires are going to behave adamantly like this. This decision against Dravid is going cost us the match. I agree if it were any England batsmen, it would have been not out by third umpire. And I don't think we would have gone to third umpire for this at all.

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 12:05 PM [Full View]

any chances of rain in London today?

oru 2-3 hours mazhai kottinaa rombha useful-aa irukkum.

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 01:56 PM [Full View]

Sehwag likely to miss limited-overs leg

It is more than likely that Virender Sehwag has played his last innings on the England tour. It is understood that Sehwag has not completely recovered from the shoulder surgery he underwent immediately after the IPL in May. Sehwag, who struggled to make any impact in the two Tests matches he played, had a quiet word with the two on-tour national selectors - Narendra Hirwani and Surendra Bhave - and the team management, and the decision was then conveyed to the BCCI top brass. In the end Sehwag got the permission.

http://sports.ndtv.com/ind-eng-2011/...ited-overs-leg

yaaru appo ODI opener? Murali Vijay-aa?

From: satissh_r on 22nd August 2011 03:06 PM [Full View]

Varun Aaron, Rahane in ODI squad

Ajinkya Rahane, the Mumbai batsman, and Jharkhand fast bowler Varun Aaron have been called up to India's ODI squad to replace Virender Sehwag and Ishant Sharma. Sehwag had not fully recovered from the shoulder surgery he underwent after the IPL, while Ishant sustained a ligament injury to his left ankle during the Edgbaston Test.

I'm happy for Rahane and Aaron, both had a very good emerging players series.

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 03:11 PM [Full View]

Why these selectors pick debutants for overseas tours? They should be be given a chance to play in the local matches first, boost up their confidence and then be picked for tours. If they fail to perform now, their confidence level will hit the rock bottom.

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 03:16 PM [Full View]

Gambhir also in davut for ODIs. No Gambhir, Sehwag, Bhajji, Yuvaraas, Zak, PK, Ishant

Yaaru appo opening? Rahane and Dravid-aa?

England limited overs cricket-la zimbly waste team-nnu pEsinavanga-llam ushaar aagikunga. Another 5-0 looks likely

From: satissh_r on 22nd August 2011 03:27 PM [Full View]

Ajay, I think the IPL exposure would have done these guys a world of good already. Also, both are coming from a good emerging players tour so I expect them to perform well. Rahane has a good technique and I think that is the need of the hour. Aaron might find it difficult initially but it should be a good good experience for him overall

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 03:29 PM [Full View]

Cricbuzz:

A lot will depend on an out of formSachin Tendulkar if India are to come out of this test with a honourable draw and he will have the night-watchman Mishra, a shaky Raina, a lacklustre Dhoni and an injured Gambhir to lend him support.

IvingaLLam Indians thaanE? yEn ippadi ezhudharanga?

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

What's with Ganguly and wilkins: They are talking about tennis stars in a cricket match : )

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 03:53 PM [Full View]

Seeing the first over in this match.

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 04:00 PM [Full View]

A 50 for tendulkar. Aggregates 182 in the last 7 innings at an exact ave of 26.

From: MADDY on 22nd August 2011 04:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Adhaavadhu by chance onfield umpire correcta kuduththaalum, use drs for a blatantly wrong reversaal. And this is where interpretation aspect is used. Rules say reverse the decision only if ovetwhelming evidence of mistake is there with technology. If the evidence is marginal, stay with onfield decision. I predicted that reversals will happen on marginal evidence if the suffering party is india. It happened today.

yeah it was pretty blatant, scorecards must read Dravid c unaware b 3rd umpire........BCCI should demolish DRS system from existence, no hotspot, no hook eye, bring back old umpiring style

....

we can use this Hot Spot however

From: Cinemarasigan on 22nd August 2011 04:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Ha ha ha! Jai DRS. As I predicted, it is a tool to give more wrong decisions against india. Adhaavadhu by chance onfield umpire correcta kuduththaalum, use drs for a blatantly wrong reversaal.

And this is where interpretation aspect is used. Rules say reverse the decision only if ovetwhelming evidence of mistake is there with technology. If the evidence is marginal, stay with onfield decision. I predicted that reversals will happen on marginal evidence if the suffering party is india. It happened today. If it was Cook, 100 percent it would have been stay with the notout given onfield.
ICC - so predictable.
Shameless, naked use of power by anglo saxons starts...
Ladies and gentleman, please welcome the imperial cricket conference! Veto for Eng and Aus! Coming soon!

Yes, these anglo saxons are so arrogant, I felt like shooting that TV umpire when he handed that decision to Dravid..

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Cricbuzz:

A lot will depend on an out of formSachin Tendulkar if India are to come out of this test with a honourable draw and he will have the night-watchman Mishra, a shaky Raina, a lacklustre Dhoni and an injured Gambhir to lend him support.

IvingaLLam Indians thaanE? yEn ippadi ezhudharanga?

Sounds like the dead man walking patient in Vaali(?) Vivek comedy - "kannu rendum avinju pochu, nenju TB-la kaanju pochu, seat thenji pochu....."

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

A 50 for tendulkar. Aggregates 182 in the last 7 innings at an exact ave of 26.

Kodumai

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 05:17 PM [Full View]

Dravid says he might have nicked it - does not mean the 3rd umpire was *right* in giving it out (assuming the replays, technology etc couldn't conclusively prove that he was out - match ellam paakkala, padichadha vechu solren). Adhuvum on field umpire decision reverse panradhunna its all the more inexcusable

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:17 PM [Full View]

was watching oomai vizhigal on sat nite...
while watching the 'tholvi nilaiyena' song, with all the actors with bandaids and plasters around, badly wounded and thrashed, i could not help but imagining the indian team there...

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Dravid says he might have nicked it - does not mean the 3rd umpire was *right* in giving it out (assuming the replays, technology etc couldn't conclusively prove that he was out - match ellam paakkala, padichadha vechu solren). Adhuvum on field umpire decision reverse panradhunna its all the more inexcusable

namma makkaloda honestya ivanga advantageku edutthukkuraanga...
ivanga kitta ellaam enna honesty thevai irukku... nallavanukku mattum nallavanaa irundhaa podhum... adhan replays'laam paatthae illa... nick'ala'nu solla vendiyadhu dhaanae...
i hate these kinda cliches in movies where heroes being over honest and it all goes against them...

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 05:31 PM [Full View]

Amit Mishra 50!

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

The first wicket-less session of the series for India and it has taken 8 innings and the final day of the test series for them to achieve it. 87 runs came in the session and you wouldn't believe this, but it was Mishra who was the more assured of the two. When was the last time you said that when someone has batted along side Tendulkar. Full marks to Mishra who rarely put a foot wrong in the whole session. Tendulkar on the other hand, survived a dropped catch and had a few close shaves when he played and missed at balls outside off.

Freakin hurts

.................

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

scorps... adhu paattukku nadakkudhu apdiyae vidungalaen...

idpi thaan strauss outnu annakku claps pottinga... adhukku aduttha 350 run partnership pottaanunga...

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 05:38 PM [Full View]

SS- enna ivLO emosanal aayiteenga?

ok...ini yaarukkum claps kidayaadhu.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 05:38 PM [Full View]

Very happy for Dravidan though

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

SS- enna ivLO emosanal aayiteenga?

ok...ini yaarukkum claps kidayaadhu.

aduttha rendu sessions katthi mela nadakkura maadhiri...
adha mattum thaandittomnaa ODI porappo team morale konjam nallaa irukkum...
naan appappo scoreboard open panni orakkaannaala score mattum paatthuttu irukkaen...

From: raajarasigan on 22nd August 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

Dravid retire aana naama enna than panna poromo....

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

avarukku chinnaswamy stadium nadu pitchla oru selai veppom... illainaalum anga ipl mattumdhaan nadakka pogudhu...

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 05:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

SS- enna ivLO emosanal aayiteenga?

ok...ini yaarukkum claps kidayaadhu.

evlo asingapadutthuraainga theriyuma...
batting panna pona sutthi ninnu namma team patthi pesi over sledging panraanunga...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:40 PM [Full View]

71.6 Swann to Tendulkar, no run, goes on the backfoot and defends. Swann isn't happy with that decision from Taufel and kicks the turf in disgust. Didn't kick the stumps though. Where is SMG? He would have said something about that too.
71.4 Swann to Tendulkar, FOUR!!, this time he goes on the backfoot and cuts a sharply spinning off break, wide of cover and the ball races away to the fence. It was just a fraction short and Tendulkar made full use of it. Loud cheers from the Indian crowd.
71.1 Swann to Tendulkar, no run, huge shout for LBW. Massive appeal from England. They brought Bopara up from the boundary. Tendulkar saw the chance for the sweep and missed. It was turning back in and Taufel again rejected the appeal. Replays in: It was hitting leg. Tendulkar survives again.

Simon Taufel vaazhgo!

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:46 PM [Full View]

73.3 Swann to Tendulkar, no run, another huge appeal for LBW, but that was spinning too much. Tendulkar offered his pad and Swann went up in a big way. Taufel immediately said NO and replays are awaited.
73.1 Swann to Tendulkar, no run, dropped by Prior. Swann can't believe his luck. He is letting out an expletive and kicking everything in his way. Tendulkar edged the cut and it was a major deflection. In and Out. Maybe the first dropped catch by Prior in the series. Not sure, will confirm soon.

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From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:48 PM [Full View]

Thala thonneethonnu, Mishra boy 80

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 06:48 PM [Full View]

Just 9 short..

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

Thala, Kamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan but oldEn..............

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:49 PM [Full View]

74.6 Pietersen to Tendulkar, FOUR!!, that's Tendulkar at his aggressive best. Short and spinning back in, he is onto the backfoot in a flash and pulls hard and flat down to the deep square leg fence. Moves into the nineties.
74.5 Pietersen to Tendulkar, 2 runs, now Tendulkar brings out his paddle sweep and takes it from outside off to get it down to fine leg where another slide keeps it to a couple

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From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 06:50 PM [Full View]

Harsha mandayaaa

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd August 2011 06:51 PM [Full View]

Mishra misses out a 100

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 06:51 PM [Full View]

Mishy finally perishes.. Well played..

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

Well played Mishra

Konjam ozhunga bowling potrukkalaam, Garbajana oda viturkkalaam

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 06:53 PM [Full View]

Mishra

. Great performance dude. Kappi mandayan harsha correctaa andha nerathula vaaya vechan.

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 06:56 PM [Full View]

oh mishra

konjamaachum namma maanattha kaappatthunadhukku unakku oru

its not easy to play a swinging morning session against some good fast bowling in england... nee veeran da... dhairiyamaa openingae varalaam... ippo namakku irukkura opening optionsku compare panrapo...

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

Pongadaa neengalum unga cricketum..

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

Gaali, seri eppadiyum inga adichirundhaalum remba perumaya irundhirukkaadhu namakku, hair-a pochu

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 06:57 PM [Full View]

Another marginal decision. Pitched way outside off.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

Ozhunga cricbuzz la score paathutrundhen, colleage vandhu live-a paarunga nu insist pannaaru, opening frame Bresnan celebrating (Janmashtami vera)

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Another marginal decision. Pitched way outside off.

Yeah, leg stump, bail a lighta oraayudhu, very marginal....

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Gaali, seri eppadiyum inga adichirundhaalum remba perumaya irundhirukkaadhu namakku, hair-a pochu

adhae adhae...
but kutthavechu ukkaandhu indha match save panni irundhaa konjam nallaa irundhirukkum...

ungala ellaam sollanum... vaaya vechukittu summaa irundhaa dhaanae...

to all...

From: ajithfederer on 22nd August 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

New ball ellam dhoni and raina

From: Bala (Karthik) on 22nd August 2011 07:02 PM [Full View]

MOS yevaru?

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

Dravid/Bell/Fraud?

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

vera yaaru... polandhavaayan dhaan...

From: KV on 22nd August 2011 07:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

adhae adhae...
but kutthavechu ukkaandhu indha match save panni irundhaa konjam nallaa irundhirukkum...

ungala ellaam sollanum... vaaya vechukittu summaa irundhaa dhaanae...

to all...

Ada, namma plummar sollra maadhri, varalaaru romba mukkyam nga. Match level, personal level la eppidiyo, aana analysis panra vetti pasangalukku idhu oru nalla tactical reply. Adhigamaa onnum karichu kotta mudiyaadhu.

From: venkkiram on 22nd August 2011 07:17 PM [Full View]

Sachin, Mishra

தொடர் முடியும் போதாவது நமது போராடும் குணம் வெளிப்பட்டதே! மிச்சம் இருக்கிற பசங்க எப்படியாவது டிரா செய்திடுங்கப்பா!

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd August 2011 07:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Mishra misses out a 100

Thalaivar too

Just when I moved away for meeting, he was lbw

From: scorpio on 22nd August 2011 07:31 PM [Full View]

Gambhir, RP and Sree - Plz 22 runs-kku mEla adinga. Innings defeat lerndhaavadhu escape aagalaam.

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd August 2011 07:33 PM [Full View]

From: GSV on 22nd August 2011 07:36 PM [Full View]

WTF... why why why

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 07:37 PM [Full View]

saavungadaaa....

From: 19thmay on 22nd August 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

WTF....................... pongada

From: ajaybaskar on 22nd August 2011 07:42 PM [Full View]

Somebody explain the rules of hockey pls...

From: GSV on 22nd August 2011 07:43 PM [Full View]

cricket paaka aarambicha naalla irundhu ivlo koba pattadilla ...

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Somebody explain the rules of hockey pls...

indha vayasukku maela nee schoolukku poi... aayaa madiyila nee ukkaara mudiyaadhu... aayaa dhaan un madila ukkaaranum...

From: 19thmay on 22nd August 2011 08:09 PM [Full View]

This is unacceptable!!! It is applicable to Sachin as well...you should have taken responsibility and played till end man. Your 100 would have not only your 100th but a match saving, you have wasted it, very disappointing!!!

From: littlemaster1982 on 22nd August 2011 08:12 PM [Full View]

We could have saved this match

From: raghavendran on 22nd August 2011 08:13 PM [Full View]

adhane pathen..konjam nalaikku Cricket pakkam varaporadhu illa...BPL has started..so mind diversion for a while...good to follow more than one sport..it helps

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 08:15 PM [Full View]

appaada... mudinjadhu...

From: KV on 22nd August 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

Oru ettu poitu varadhukulla, kudumbame close.
Swann was among the few guys who wasn't really having a triumphant series unlike the majority of this mates. Kadaiseela avarayum arasiyalvaadhi aakitOm. Enna irundhaalum, namma pasangalukku dhaarala manasu ya.

From: venkkiram on 22nd August 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Congrats England for completing this series 4-0

Strauss

for leading this team of best talented ones.

நமக்குக் கிடைத்த நான்கு தோல்விகளும் பெரிய பாடம். தவறுகளை திருத்திக் கொள்ள , மீண்டும் நிமிர்ந்தெழ ஒரு வாய்ப்பு கொடுத்த இந்த தொடருக்கு நன்றி.

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

broad, bresnan, anderson, tremlett, swann, third umpire.. everyone had a 5for in this series...
complete teamwork...

From: GSV on 22nd August 2011 08:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

appaada... mudinjadhu...

sathyama naanum idha thaan nenachen... inimel wicket poguma pogaadhaanu paakka theva ma..re illa...
people are saying here,
WHITE wash series,
BLACK mark nu ellam,
but enaku
GREEN words thaan varudhu...

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 08:41 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by GSV

sathyama naanum idha thaan nenachen... inimel wicket poguma pogaadhaanu paakka theva ma..re illa...
people are saying here,
WHITE wash series,
BLACK mark nu ellam,
but enaku
GREEN words thaan varudhu...

thats not FAIR

From: Plum on 22nd August 2011 08:45 PM [Full View]

ada paavingalA mudinjE pOchA? nAn oru nAL muzhukka pArkkAma irundhA epdiyum karaiERiduvAngannu nambikkayA idhu varaikkin pArkAma irundhEnE

4-0 to England. 4-0! WhiteWash! kali mudiyaRa varaikkin pEsuvAnunggO karichatti vaayanunga(Ingliskaarans).

sachinAr ODI series-ku tEkkA koduththuttu India varuvadhu nalam. Channeling B(K) here who commented on Federer thus a couple of years ago - idhukku mEla avamAnam avarAla vENa thAnga mudiyin nammaLAla mudiyAdhu

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 08:49 PM [Full View]

enna avamaanam... taekka kudutthuttu avar india varradhula enna maanam kaappaattha padum... enna nyaayamnu solringa avar pov'la?

From: venkkiram on 22nd August 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

புண்பட்ட நெஞ்சங்களுக்கு ஆறுதலான ஒரே விஷயம் டிராவிட்டின் பொறுப்பான ஆட்டம் தான். முத்தான மூன்று சத்தங்கள்... தொடர் நாயகனுக்கான விருதை பகிர்ந்திருக்கும் தேசிய சுவருக்கு மனமார்ந்த வாழ்த்துக்கள்!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...200/136261.jpg

From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2011 11:41 PM [Full View]

oh sharingaa??
very good gesture...

From: KV on 22nd August 2011 11:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by GSV

sathyama naanum idha thaan nenachen... inimel wicket poguma pogaadhaanu paakka theva ma..re illa...
people are saying here,
WHITE wash series,
BLACK mark nu ellam,
but enaku
GREEN words thaan varudhu...

Aaga mottham pandigaikku ilavasamaa vellai adichachu... adhuvum vellaikkaaran kaiyyula.
ODI series-um Englandku 'kannaa, rendaavadhu laddu thinna aasaya' va illaama irundha sari.

From: GSV on 23rd August 2011 12:23 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

thats not FAIR

Enna panradhu SS.. nelama appadi iruku.. kalikaalam...

From: GSV on 23rd August 2011 12:40 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

Aaga mottham pandigaikku ilavasamaa vellai adichachu... adhuvum vellaikkaaran kaiyyula.
ODI series-um Englandku 'kannaa, rendaavadhu laddu thinna aasaya' va illaama irundha sari.

laddu ah.. enga iruku...adhan adichu kiluchu boondhi aakitaigale nammala...
eppo thothaalum world cup jeichitom nu solli manasa thethika vendiyada iruku...
edhu nadanthaalum manam thalaraamal waiting for ODI series.. dhomsam panrom...

From: HonestRaj on 23rd August 2011 01:01 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Somebody explain the rules of hockey pls...

22 pEr..
ellar kaiyilayum oru kattai

edhukku ivlo kastam.. chak de parppOm..

From: P_R on 23rd August 2011 09:08 AM [Full View]

Even with a full strength - I use the term loosely- team I expected India would not win a single test match. A whitewash is more than what I expected - highly satisfying.
Last evening, I checked scores till India was trailing by 22 and had 4 wickets in hand- Dhoni and Gambhir. They managed to lose 4 wickets for 14 runs.!!

Glad finally finally Swann came good. He was quite disappointing in this series and even here had very helpful conditions. Anyway, this bodes well for subcontinent tours - whenever they are. (Nagaram Vadivelu: en area-vukku vandhu paarrA neeyi)

Dravitt

This century was his most fluent methought. He played some beautiful shots.

Nember one- Thorpe, Stewart, Gough - this one is for all of you gutsy guys from the days of yore.
adEi, Graeme Smith, saamaanjettellAm thookkittu vaappA, kai ellAm para para 'ngudhu

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 09:10 AM [Full View]

Pleeassee!!!

Originally Posted by P_R

Even with a full strength - I use the term loosely- team I expected India would not win a single test match. A whitewash is more than what I expected - highly satisfying.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 09:49 AM [Full View]

pEsunga pEsunga. Spoken like a typical Brit!

If you expected that, series munnAdi bold-A predict paNNa vENdiyadhud dhAnE! This is typical British posthumous talk. "ipdi nadakkumnu enakku munnAdiyE theriyin.", "idhulErundhu enna theriyudhunnA idhu varaikkum India jeyichedhellAm maayai"

pEsunga pEsunga - Andavan veppAn ungaLukkellAm Appu - now or a few years later. Ricky-ku vechAn illai? adhE mAdhiri. ada, Ricky-E vekka pORAn ungaLukku Appu 2013-la. pArthduvOm.

(idhukku pEru dhAn hedging - finance industry-la irukkOmla)

From: P_R on 23rd August 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

pEsunga pEsunga. Spoken like a typical Brit!

If you expected that, series munnAdi bold-A predict paNNa vENdiyadhud dhAnE! This is typical British posthumous talk. "ipdi nadakkumnu enakku munnAdiyE theriyin.",

I posted in twitter that I expected India won't win a single test match. This was before we played the first practice match. It was fairly obvious to me.
Let me see if that tweet is archived.

From: MADDY on 23rd August 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

congrats England for a clinical performance

congrats Strauss for making india follow on despite bowlers bowling for 95 overs and going for a white wash

Swann

the result is unfair because when India wanted, they had England clueless - second test 1st innings England were 124/8....final test, final day, Amit mishra and Sachin tendulkar thwarted English attack for a session pretty comfrotably and not to forget Praveen kumar running thru English batting order and Dhoni's towering sixes of broad and anderson........its just unlucky that we couldnt keep up the momentum........it was a battering but not whitewash.........Dhoni needs to introspect a lot, build a team alongside big 3 as they move out and start bringing quality bowling attack........if only he is interested

From: P_R on 23rd August 2011 10:37 AM [Full View]

Flau, I stand corrected. Looks like I didn't tweet so before the series but only at the end of the second test. So I have no evidence to support my claim that I never thought India would not win a single test. So you are well within your right to not take my word for it and consider mine an ex-post opinion.

For others, I had a bet running with a fellow England fan. He said 2-0 and I said 3-0. Now neither of us owe the other anything!

"idhulErundhu enna theriyudhunnA idhu varaikkum India jeyichedhellAm maayai"

Well I am not exactly saying that because I have NOT been following India's fortunes closely enough.
But I don't believe IPL, injuries, coach are the reasons to pounce on. Well IPL, T20 is a reason to the extent that it is eating into Test schedule - that's about all I am willing to say. The SA tour was the only challenging series India played in its ascent to and stay on - the top. IMO the reason is as simple as that. And most of the public 'surprise' owes to the fact that people have NOT been following the England team this closely.

Anyway, I think this England team will beat SA in England quite comfortably (SA in SA will be a battle). I know most of you feel the other way. We will meet then.

From: P_R on 23rd August 2011 10:48 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by MADDY

congrats Strauss for making india follow on despite bowlers bowling for 95 overs and going for a white wash

Oh he was surely going for it. No point batting again when you have lost a day to rain. The first innings went longer than expected but the Indian batting still looked weak. So he was going for it, even if his bowlers were exhausted. They had a night to sleep it off

Originally Posted by MADDY

Swann

Yeah finally! He was getting prodigious turn off the rough, but he was bowling with very good control later in the innings and at a lovely length.

Originally Posted by MADDY

the result is unfair because when India wanted, they had England clueless - second test 1st innings England were 124/8....final test, final day, Amit mishra and Sachin tendulkar thwarted English attack for a session pretty comfrotably and not to forget Praveen kumar running thru English batting order and Dhoni's towering sixes of broad and anderson.

The result was more that fair, precisely for the reason that Test cricket is NOT about moments and phases. Ishanth's spell was excellent - no doubt. But failing to keep the momentum going, is not a mere incidental footnote - it IS the failure. The ability to fight and claw into the match from nowhere (Prior-Broad) is arguably the chief asset.

The Mishra-Sachin partnership proved that the conditions were NOT as challenging as the rest of the batsmen felt. They played Swann quite well but no-one else was that menacing. Even Swann went for a lot of runs initially. They just kept their head and applied themselves- something the Rainas of the world seem to show no intention of doing. The last test was the true batting failure - there seemed to be an assumption that the conditions were as difficult as the previous tests, when that was not the case at all!

From: raajarasigan on 23rd August 2011 10:57 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

oh sharingaa??
very good gesture...

it is NOT sharing.. usually, in npower test series, each team will have their own MOS..

last time, IIRC, it was anderson for England & Zaheer for India..

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 11:14 AM [Full View]

England won because our bowling was useless. No need to look at any other reasons. Our's was even worse than Australia in Ashes. At-least there Mitchell Johnson with helpful conditions in Perth(??) bundled them out cheaply. Yes our batting was poor but we could have drawn games with Zaheer in. A better bowling unit could have had English batsmen gaping. Hell they are no Bradman(s) or Sober(s). Ishanth had them reeling in first test.

Saying all that I am kinda glad that India received this thrashing. This will call for a 360 degree evaluation on all fronts like after the WC 07 debacle. Raina can be dropped. Bring on Rohit/Kohli. India has no tail. The batsmen end at 5. Our injury list didn't help us either.

Hold on to that mace for as long as you can, both you Andy's. I will see you guys in India next year.

From: ajaybaskar on 23rd August 2011 11:18 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Hold on to that mace for as long as you can, both you Andy's. I will see you guys in India next year.

Adhethaan Sir.. Adhethaan...

From: MADDY on 23rd August 2011 11:20 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

The result was more that fair, precisely for the reason that Test cricket is NOT about moments and phases. Ishanth's spell was excellent - no doubt. But failing to keep the momentum going, is not a mere incidental footnote - it IS the failure. The ability to fight and claw into the match from nowhere (Prior-Broad) is arguably the chief asset.

ofcourse i understand that, but what i meant was England were not as menacing or as towering as the 4-0 result read.....it reflects more of India's failure rather than England's superiority......given that India had their moments proves this point........

From: MADDY on 23rd August 2011 11:26 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Hell they are no Bradman(s) or Sober(s). Ishanth had them reeling in first test.

Hold on to that mace for as long as you can, both you Andy's. I will see you guys in India next year.

exactly, they never looked in control or unassailable, they were merely grazing on poor bowling atttacks...........their bowling too, apart from new ball, Anderson, broad were negotiated with ease - hell, strauss had to go to bopara and peterson yesterday

.......

guys, i have never seen India taking revenge perfectly on anyone - only successful revenge i remember is Sachin's 98 at centurion for javed miandad's last ball 6 in sharjah - vera edhuvum nyabagame illa.....India might manage to draw, thats it

From: P_R on 23rd August 2011 11:27 AM [Full View]

Feddy, the last test win wasn't to do with bowling alone.

Sehwag and Laxman were not outwitted by great bowling.
I thought it was quite rash of Sachin to get out the way he did in the first innings. He was not looking as comfortable as Dravid and was counter-attacking to keep it going. He hit that boundary and then went for a sweep - making Swann look better than he actually was.

Raina was useless. And, as I said about Dhoni - last test it was 'throw everything at it' kind of innings - so it worked. But I wouldn't say he was looking good either.
The problems are not just with bowling.

I don't think Zaheer would have helped draw matches. The ability to take wickets produces results and not draws. So with Zaheer it would have been a more closely contested series, that is all. However I still think Eng would have won it, because they were better in all departments. Anyway we are trading speculations here. For drawing you need long innings with application - which only Dravid seemed capable of making.

From: raajarasigan on 23rd August 2011 11:38 AM [Full View]

First Two Tests - we were able to bowl them out twice. Last two tests - bowling was toothless.. pathetic to say the least.. England 20 நாள் ஆடிருந்த கூட 20 wickets எடுத்திருக்க முடியாது...

Complete sothappal batting than except dravid... we did not play to our potential..

with the way we batted, even Zaheer would not have made any difference... first rendu test'la thottha maadhiri dejent'a thotthiruppom. avlothan... sehwag vandhum onnum kizhikkala naama...
Raina - உன்னை எல்லாம் சப்போர்ட் பண்ணவே கூடாதுடா..

just like England's 2005 ashes team, I am afraid that we would never play test cricket with our best playing 11 (excluding # 6 & harbhajan) due to injuries..

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:38 AM [Full View]

The result was more that fair, precisely for the reason that Test cricket is NOT about moments and phases. Ishanth's spell was excellent - no doubt. But failing to keep the momentum going, is not a mere incidental footnote - it IS the failure. The ability to fight and claw into the match from nowhere (Prior-Broad) is arguably the chief asset.

The Mishra-Sachin partnership proved that the conditions were NOT as challenging as the rest of the batsmen felt. They played Swann quite well but no-one else was that menacing. Even Swann went for a lot of runs initially. They just kept their head and applied themselves- something the Rainas of the world seem to show no intention of doing. The last test was the true batting failure - there seemed to be an assumption that the conditions were as difficult as the previous tests, when that was not the case at all!

This, I agree.
However, the problem is the team seemed to stop caring after the second test. Somewhere down the line, they seem to have believed their own press that "we'll always lose first test and come back in second test". The second test result - esp after 124-8 and Fraud's* counter-attack - seemed to shock them into not caring anymore.

Sachin - mysteriously lost form. And this is not recent. The rut started imemdiately after the brilliant century against Saffers in World Cup. A rather hasty cameo against Netherlands followed and ever since, he hasnt been fluent at all. I do remember he played - and I watched - the IPL but I dont remember any moments from IPL now at all. I'd like him to survive for one more England tour and show his real class in conditions such as this and nagging bowling like this - he is capable of much better (even 3 years down the line) than what we saw in this test series. But that is unlikely to happen.

As Feeyaar said, Dhoni's inningses were more quixotic tilting at windmills. vandha varai laabam, konda varai mogam types. He didnt deliver when he had to at any point in the series - in any of his 3 roles. I do sympathise with his work-load but to deny that he performed very, very poorly in this series in all of his 3 roles would be overlooking the obvious. I would like him to prioritise tests and win challenges like this - as a batsman and as a keeper, if not as a captain - no amount of World Cup wins and Sembiam Leagues and IPL trophies or Series wins in India, Zim, Bang, NZ, WI etc compensate for that failure. It is Australia Test Tour win or bust for me.

Sembiam league varudhu - I'd like Dhoni and Sachin to take a stand and refuse to play it saying that they'd prefer to rest now and play in the Windies series. seivArgaLA? If these two cannot stand up to BCCI, who can?

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:45 AM [Full View]

I think England would have won 2-1 or 3-1 with a fully-fit Zaheer in India team. We sure would not have let 124-8 to become 221, and the associated morale loss would not have happened. The morale loss simply steamrolled them in the last 2 tests.

Kartikeya Date analysed Indian bowling - and despite his pro-Harbhajan bias - and made some salient points. The point about Santh and Ishant is that they bowl 2-3 gimme balls every over. Agarkar anyone? That's a surefire recipe for disaster. Secondly, in the 3rd and 4th tests, there was very limited effort from anyone barring Praveen in the bowling attack. That's not acceptable. I am giving up on Sreesanth. We dont need a mercurial bowler who can only bowl occasional snorters.

The question is how come for 10 years we developed a fighting attitude in foreign tours, and suddenly lost the attitude? It's fine losing matches but we clearly saw poor effort from Indian players in this series(incl Sach and Lax). How did this happen? Thank God Anil K or Rahul D werent captains - because I remember Anil was pilloried and media-pressured to retire when it was somehow perceived that the team showedd less energy when he was in the helm in an Australian series. How people perceived that kind of "team environment change" then but dont perceive that now is a mystery to me.

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 11:46 AM [Full View]

P_R

Zaheer has always enjoyed bowling in England. Hell, its like his home. His Worcester contract is the one that made him the bowler today. He was in awesome form going into the first test from the SA Tour and in the WC. He was the MOS last time around for 18 wkts in 3 games. He had england by the scruff of the neck until his injury. He was furious at Dhoni for missing his 3rd wkt when he didn't go for the catch. Around him other bowlers do well, Cue harbhajan in Durban, Sree santh in SA and Ishanth against Aus in India. I still maintain our bowling was the poorest by a comfortable margin in the longest time lets say in the last 20 years. Abysmal is an understatement. Evanume wicket edukara madhiri podala

. Hey Even you conceded the other day that people with remember this win against a depleted side.

Take for eg: we won in SA(the most difficult of conditions) defending 303 in the 2nd test. India in the recent times has always been a side like one backing the other. Bowling backs batting and vice versa. I don't care if anybody agrees but with Zaheer we could have easily drawn the series.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:49 AM [Full View]

Hold on to that mace for as long as you can, both you Andy's. I will see you guys in India next year.

No, sadly I dont have much hopes that this India team will challenge India when they come here. Especially since Laxman and Dravid surely would have retired by then. (Laxman just has one more series failure before he is pushed to retire, Dravid I think will retire after Aussie tour either way - assuming he makes it that far. Because Kohli will score a century against mighty Windies in India and if Dravid doesnt, whispers will be out that he is unfit to play for India anymore). And given that Tendulkar's second wind seems to be waning and in terminal stages, Sachin might be gone too.

While Kohli, Raina et al are good enough to compete against Lanka, NZ, WI, and possibly even Australia in India, they cannot compete against this England bowling even in India.

As yesterday showed, in benign batting conditions, English seamers are a little iffy, but not any more iffy than Indian seamers, while the English spinner is millions of miles ahead of his Indian counterpart. Even their second spinner Monty is better than any of our second spinners.

I will join you all in issuign empty statements against England "enga areavukku vandhu pAru" until they actually come here but that is just Vadivelu bluster. I am happy to do it for two years till England actually come here and piss on our faces - to maintain my sanity in the face of gloating England fans.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:52 AM [Full View]

Raina - உன்னை எல்லாம் சப்போர்ட் பண்ணவே கூடாதுடா..

For git's attention. But it is notable that, apart from Dhoni, he is the one Indian player who has done everything in last two years - jumbing, skipping, riding(IPL, Tests, ODIs, T2oIs etc etc). Kohli should have been played in Surrey - if only because Raina was mentally gone. Pity him, really.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:54 AM [Full View]

uys, i have never seen India taking revenge perfectly on anyone

yes, this is never going to happen. Heck, even off-field, we didnt take proper revenge on English and Aussie players - for proper revenge, they should have been punished repeatedly for offences they didnt commit in the last 5 years when BCCI has dominated ICC. Instead, they didnt even get punished for a million crimes they committed on field.

We dont do revenge well.

Now, I'll tell you what. England is coming back to power off-field too in a few years from now. They'll show you how proper revenge is taken. They'll give themselves a veto in ICC - and all BCCI critics now will shut their traps and not say a word agains them then. idhu nadakkudhA illaiyA pArunga.

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 11:55 AM [Full View]

Does anybody else here think that Raina has to go?.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 11:56 AM [Full View]

Feeyar, I dont think a declining Kallis, Smith and a under-pressure Devil and Amala will stop this English team. They only have Steyn - and if I know my cricketing Gods right, Steyn will get injured just before the England series

.

My hopes are on Australia - and Ricky in particular. For the first time in my Life, I am heartfully hoping for Ricky Ponting to become the ruthless batting devil that he was and shows England its place.

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

And for everybody's notice India is now number 3 behind SA.

From: raajarasigan on 23rd August 2011 12:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Does anybody else here think that Raina has to go?.

rendu kaiya thookkaren..

அவன நெனைச்ச பாவமா தான் இருக்கு... but let him come back stronger in tests just like he did in ODIs..

From: ajithfederer on 23rd August 2011 12:04 PM [Full View]

I am now thinking that all three may retire at the end of the Aus tour. BCCI may try to pull em till 2012 end though.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 12:06 PM [Full View]

Well, against India in Windies, Raina will be fine. It is a jackpot actually. Kohlikku dhAn adikka pOvudhu. But for all his efforts in last two years, I wouldnt be unhappy if Raina hit the jackpot.

However, two people will become ultra-fit for Windies tour of India. They'll definitely hit the jackpot. The Two Singhs. There is a lesson in Career Management for you - get injured at strategic moments, minimise failures by refusing to appear in situations where you'll fail. adhu!

Ofcourse, not everyone will be indulged like that. Sadagoppan Ramesh tried a strategic injury in the Aussie tour - and according to M Kesavan, privately Indian seniors conceded that they believed it was a chatterjee injury and never held him in respect after that.
Ofcourse, no such danger for Harby and Yuvi.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 12:15 PM [Full View]

Whoever coined the name-twist "Fraud" deserves a pat on the back. Has there been a apter name-twist? A fraud, who commits several offences on the field, and is backed by the establishment to overlook those, and knows that he will not be punished and behaves with impunity. If proper punishment had been meted out to him for all his offences, he'd probably have copped a life ban by now or atleast a collective 15 tests of ban by now. Which means he would have dropped out of England reckoning thanks to the competition.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 12:20 PM [Full View]

And one more thing, people overlook that the same England attack struggled to dislodge a decidedly inferior Lanka batting earlier this summer. And were lucky that Lanka collapsed in the first test on the last day in 24 overs. Another instances of Cricketing Gods playing havoc in Cardiff.

What if India had toured earlier this summer
Would Broad have been so devastating? He wasnt in form against Lanka so hardly likely he'd have been against India. It is not as if Lankan batting or bowling - even on current form - is better than India's.

Zaheer would still not have been available but I reckon England was not in great shape to possibly even win the series, let alone a whitewash.

But now the genie's out of the box. Their confidence will be sky-high and that alone will fund several series victories now for them..

Cricketing Gods - nInga Anglo Saxon-nu marubadi marubadi prove paNdrInga.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 12:22 PM [Full View]

And remember Anderson was out for the Lord's match and England bowling was miserable against Lanka in that match. So much for bowling depth, eh?

But I am wary of saying this because Cricketing Gods somehow concatenate circumstances to make it look like England's claims are true and India/others are crap.

From: scorpio on 23rd August 2011 01:25 PM [Full View]

VaikkOl with the test mace photo paarkkum pOdhu, pakkathu cabinkaaranukku out-of-turn-la promotion vandhaa eppadi irukumO, appadi irukku

From: littlemaster1982 on 23rd August 2011 02:01 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I am now thinking that all three may retire at the end of the Aus tour. BCCI may try to pull em till 2012 end though.

I'm thinking the same too. We can't depend on these three for a long time and we need to build a new team for the future. Only thing is their retirements should be phased out or else our slump will be worse than Aussies.

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 02:13 PM [Full View]

What's the point? If these 3 retire, what is the incentive to watch Indian test cricket?

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 02:55 PM [Full View]

Typical English moan on DRS and Tendulkar

Relevant passage is here:

It would have been a brave decision in Mumbai, it was strong-willed enough in south London, and when the Australian umpire Rod Tucker raised his finger, to give Tim Bresnan an lbw decision, Tendulkar delayed long enough in disbelief for the match referee to have a second look. He has been a model professional and will probably be forgiven his moment of shock.
Hawk-Eye supported Tucker's decision, its predictive path suggesting that the ball would have clipped the top of leg-stump, and judging the decision close enough to be "umpire's call". Umpires' calls normally go in Tendulkar's favour

This is the consensus among English writers and fans. I am saying this because
the most liberal, leftist rag in England, The Guardian, time and again, reinforces this view.

That just shows how jingoistic England are. The left-most among them are so one-eyed and what's causing them to say this is mere bosom-envy against India and Tendulkar. Shazbot be damned.

To peddle such a lie again and again - by supposedly the most integral of English newspapers - shows what exactly Englishmen are.

Enjoy your stay in the top Englishmen because even your anglo-saxon Cricketing Gods cannot save you when the Judgement Day comes. You'll pay for your arrogance and lack of integrity.

All this will come back and hit you hard. I hope it is Stuart Broad who is captain when England suffer like Ponting's Australia 7 years from now.

From: SoftSword on 23rd August 2011 03:05 PM [Full View]

arumai....
WC'la final'la SL kitta thoatthuttaa eppadippatta posts ellaam paakka vaendi irukkumnu bayandhuttu irundhaeno andha maadhiri posts ellaam ippo vandhirukku...
time....

From: sathya_1979 on 23rd August 2011 04:48 PM [Full View]

Revenge will be a dish served best at home

We will meet
Will Meet
Meet

From: raghavendran on 23rd August 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

Dravid was the only man who looked comfortable throughout feel for him as he has to get all those runs for a losing cause.....even Sachin struggled..he was rusty and when he tries to save a test match...OMG..Laxman,Sehwag,gambhir etc never showed any signs of hanging in there,it was matter of getting used to the conditions..then the bowling could have been handled..wonder how many balls they would have faced together..Raina was a dead duck..please throw him out of the side..and Dhoni..adhe madhir evolo vaati out avinga?...will he not correct his mistakes?..he had the worst series more than anyone else..R.P..

.he is charging in and bowling at 122 kmph..and the rest bowled well in patches..but 4 one sided games was never expected...yes may be thats what will happen if it is a 11 vs 1 series..

From: ajaybaskar on 23rd August 2011 05:49 PM [Full View]

Edho mazhai penju oanja maadhiri irukku, Raghava..

From: raghavendran on 23rd August 2011 06:08 PM [Full View]

..vaiterichal anna...
oru pakkam 400-3,600-6..innoru pakkam 70-5,100-6,200 all out...andha pakkam scores like 294,235,180..innoru pakkam 8,0,5,6,1,0..bangla,zimbabwe kuda nalla velayandrupanga..

From: raajarasigan on 23rd August 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

:bangla,zimbabwe kuda nalla velayandrupanga..

actually Bangladesh scored 383 in one innings in England.. saw the H/L last week..

From: Plum on 23rd August 2011 06:44 PM [Full View]

Time-nu oNNu irukku. Last year England not equal to current England. Avlo en - pona maasam vandha Lanka too did better but that doesn't mean their batsmen are better. Stuart fraud was misifirng and Andersen was also injured and not fully fit so Lanka did better.

Zaheer khan injure aanaa india gaali avlo dhaana unga depthnu kettavanga oru andersen breakdown aanadhukke England struggle aanangannu ninaivu koLLanum.
It is basically cricketing Gods injure whom.

Suppose Cook has shoulder injruy and hearing problems, Pietersen has fever, Bell has concussion, injury return, and fielding injury, Andersen breaks down, Trott and Strauss out of form, will this team win 4-0? Will this England team win the series at all?

But adhu nadakkaadhu. Ellaam neram.Cricketing Gods are anglo saxon, enna seyya?

From: SoftSword on 23rd August 2011 07:45 PM [Full View]

aaaaaahhhhhhh..............

i need more patience...

From: raajarasigan on 24th August 2011 11:02 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Time-nu oNNu irukku. Last year England not equal to current England. Avlo en - pona maasam vandha Lanka too did better but that doesn't mean their batsmen are better. Stuart fraud was misifirng and Andersen was also injured and not fully fit so Lanka did better.

can't agree on this.. I don't want to see India beating a depleted England team. pona maasam vandha nalla aadiruppomnu solrathu oru aaruthal than....

From: Kalyasi on 24th August 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

Indian Cricket Team supports Anna Hazare....

" We will not win a single match, until the jan lokpal bill is passed"...

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 01:02 PM [Full View]

RR, my point is this

Suppose Cook has shoulder injruy and hearing problems, Pietersen has fever, Bell has concussion, injury return, and fielding injury, Andersen breaks down, Trott and Strauss out of form, will this team win 4-0? Will this England team win the series at all?

ipdi adi mEla adi vizhuhdnA 4-0 enna we'll lose 5-0 in a four test series

Whose fault is that? Ofcourse, BCCI's and, partly, the players themselves. So, there is nothing for us to complain there. But the point is 4-0 is not what England deserves - even an all-time great Australia didnt achieve that against a top 2 team during their reign. They only did 5-0 against pathetic Englishmen and 3-0 against Bombay Ducks and co. This England team didnt deserve that honour but circumstances conspired to give them that.

maththabadi, I agree with your point, no point beating a depleted England side. And there is no one else to blame but our own players and board. Maybe, us, too. For, didnt we patronise the IPL, despite knowing and even saying at that very point of time that it is nothing more than a diverting tamasha? If we didnt put money on IPL, would it become so important - important over and above test tours for the players?

I think at this point, the best we can do is to completely boycott Sembiam league that is coming soon.
I saw Virat Kohli advertising for RCB and even he seemed reluctant and shell-shocked to say "RCB are ready to rock the world". There was zero conviction and interest in his ad-face. Hopefully, that means something. I have grown to like Kohli in the last few months - and I really hope he can grow into a good test player and keep it alive.

From: venkkiram on 24th August 2011 04:37 PM [Full View]

ரெய்னாவை ஒரு தொடரை மட்டும் கணக்கில் கொண்டு நிராகரிக்கக் கூடாது! இன்னொரு வாய்ப்பு கொடுக்கணும். பாவங்க ரெய்னா. எத்தனையோ வாய்ப்புக்கள் கொடுக்கப் படமால் இருந்து, இப்போதான் தவழ ஆரம்பிச்சிருக்காரு. உடனே கால்களை உடைச்சிடாதிங்க!

இந்த 4 டெஸ்டுகளிலும் என்னைப் பெரிதும் ஏமாற்றியது லட்சுமன் தான். எட்டு வாய்ப்புக்களிலும் இவர் வீழ்ந்தது வேகப் பந்து வீச்சில். அயல் நாடுகளில் நன்றாக விளையாடி பழுத்த அனுபவம் உள்ள இவருக்கே இப்படி.மேலும், பெரும்பாலான தொடர்களில் இவர் ஓரிரு இடங்களில் வேகப் பந்து வீச்சுக்கு க்ளின் போல்டு ஆகிவருவது தனது தவறை திருத்திக் கொள்ளாமல் இருக்கும் மனநிலையை காட்டுகிறது.

VVS Laxman c Trott b Tremlett 10
VVS Laxman c Bell b Anderson 56

VVS Laxman c †Prior b Bresnan 54
VVS Laxman b Anderson 4

VVS Laxman c Broad b Bresnan 30
VVS Laxman c †Prior b Anderson 2

VVS Laxman c †Prior b Broad 2
VVS Laxman b Anderson 24

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 05:00 PM [Full View]

8 innings. How do you get out? Bowled, Caught, Stumped, Runout. Majority of the disimissals will be caught or bowled or lbw. Oriru idangaLil bowled AgittAr enbadhu thavaRugaLai thiruththi koLLAdha manObAvamA? appO what is your prescribed mode of dismissal?

Fletcher to Laxman before England series:
"LatchumaNA, 8 innings irukku. 2 inningsla runout aayikkO, 3 lbw, 3 caught. Bowled mattum AnA, pichupuduvEn"

kuRai solRadhukkum oru varai muRai kedayAdhA?

From: ajaybaskar on 24th August 2011 05:04 PM [Full View]

ஏதோ ஒரு சோகத்துல அப்படி சொல்லிட்டாரு..

From: scorpio on 24th August 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

India can overtake Sri Lanka in ODI rankings

Going by present form, it looks highly unlikely but if India can manage to beat England by a 4-1 margin or better in the upcoming one-day series, they can climb to second spot from third in the ICC ranking chart.

World champions India (117) are placed third behind Sri Lanka (119) in the list, headed by Australia (130)

Come on World Champions

From: ajaybaskar on 24th August 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

India 3rd in both ODI and Test rankings?

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 05:33 PM [Full View]

What if we lose 4-1? What ranking do we drop to?

BTW, when is the cut-off for selecting qualifiers for Test Championship -only top 4 qualify, right? Will we manage to hold on to #4 or above until then in Tests?

From: scorpio on 24th August 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

India 3rd in both ODI and Test rankings?

Rank mattum illa, I think our Test ranking points dropped from 125 to 117. So, we should be having the same points too in both formats.

From: Siv.S on 24th August 2011 05:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

What if we lose 4-1? What ranking do we drop to?

BTW, when is the cut-off for selecting qualifiers for Test Championship -only top 4 qualify, right? Will we manage to hold on to #4 or above until then in Tests?

India-Eng series in India is the cut-off for the championship.... vachan paaru twistu....

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

qualify AgalainA, England kAran mattum illai. Bangladesh to Sri Lanka to Pakistan, ellOrum pEsuvAnga. India getting humiliated in tests is what the whole world(except one country, which thankfully outnumbers all the rest put together possibly) wants.

From: SoftSword on 24th August 2011 05:53 PM [Full View]

appovum qualify aagalena evan enna pesinaa enna?

From: scorpio on 24th August 2011 05:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

qualify AgalainA, England kAran mattum illai. Bangladesh to Sri Lanka to Pakistan, ellOrum pEsuvAnga. India getting humiliated in tests is what the whole world(except one country, which thankfully outnumbers all the rest put together possibly) wants.

endha puNNiya dEsam adhu Plum? India dhaanaa?

From: SoftSword on 24th August 2011 05:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

endha puNNiya dEsam adhu Plum?

America.
or is it Russia plum?

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 06:04 PM [Full View]

oru 1.2 billion people irukkAnga andha country-la Scorps and SS.

From: SoftSword on 24th August 2011 06:05 PM [Full View]

Australia then.

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 06:08 PM [Full View]

Australia-la 1.2 billion uyirinam irukKAnnE sandhEgam...1.2 peopleku engE pOvAnga. Unless you think Matt Hayden is equal to around 4o million people

From: SoftSword on 24th August 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

appo straita solla vendiyadhu dhanae...
romba peru ipdithaan thiriyareenga...
ungala maadhiri aptitude-testing-posts podravangala ellaam nikka vechu, ishanth kitta solli leg-sidela'yae ellaa ball'um podanum...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 24th August 2011 06:31 PM [Full View]

Arun Lal, the former India batsman, echoed Kumble's view. "You cannot go on with 35 or 38-year-olds till eternity," Lal said. "We need to infuse new talent. What happened in England was in a way good. We needed an awakening."

Gents
Even if it's already been posted, please............................................

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 06:33 PM [Full View]

Awakening vENumnA alaram vechu endhiridA.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 24th August 2011 06:36 PM [Full View]

And Kuil Kumble-a echo panradha ezhudhiyirukkaanga, avaru appadiya sonnaaru?
"Kumble said that while it could take time for India to return to their best, players like Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Suresh Raina and Yuvraj Singh needed to be given an extended run to allow the rebuilding process to take place."

From: Plum on 24th August 2011 06:40 PM [Full View]

Yuvaraj SInghA? nandri hai. Test Cricket-lErundhu IndiavE retire AgikkalAm. The 35-38 olds are fitter, more skilful and better value over the next year than Yuvarasan in tests.
Yuvarasan is the root cause for our test problems now - the belief that ODI thillAlangadis can make it in tests, and his success in easy conditions, is what set Indian Test match future-building back.

From: ajaybaskar on 24th August 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

Yuvraj's overseas records are better than his local records in ODIs I believe. And had he not been prone to injuries, he wouldve certainly made it big.

From: raajarasigan on 24th August 2011 09:14 PM [Full View]

Ajay, I think Plum is talking about Yuvraj's place in test cricket..

Plum, obviously, before WC, he struggled in tests... but with the way he played in WC, he deserved a chance in test cricket.. he played only one match in this series..hope he will get few more chances to prove this mettle..

ODIs ---

osh:

From: ajithfederer on 25th August 2011 10:57 AM [Full View]

After Murali Karthik Pragyan Ojha has been signed up Surrey County.

From: Plum on 25th August 2011 01:06 PM [Full View]

RR, you judge test-worthiness based on technique and temparament in FC/test matches. On this count, Yuvraj has never impressed. And he is 30 already. If Badri's time has passed, so has Yuvi's, especially as he has been given many chances already.

Put it this way - we want to win the next England tour. Is Yuvi a horse you'll bet on aiding that - evne if he scores 15 centuries in India/SL/Dubai/WI in the next 3 years. I wouldnt. Can we bet on him for the Aussie tour upcoming?

Some things - technique, temparament - are obvious. We did the same mistake last Aussie tour believing that Yuvi will fire especially since he was in form and had just scored a 169 under scoreboard pressure. But reality is even an in-form Yuvraj went to pieces in Australia. The obvious reasons are his technique and temparament.

Combined with his age, there is no incentive in trying him out now. Better try out Kohli, Pujara, Rahane etc now. They might fail but we dont know yet their mettle.

From: Plum on 25th August 2011 01:09 PM [Full View]

If India want to win test matches, then they have to develop a test team. Some players withcan win matches - even from 70/6 in the second innings - in India but are so obviously unsuited for foreign tracks and are also too old to change their stripes now. Atleast now, we should take the hard decision and look out for test quality players.
Otherwise, we will keep winning against WI,NZ etc and lose one odd series against Eng/Aus/SA - and then we can claim that "we cannot win every series so this loss is acceptable" but we'll never be a #1 team with that attitude.

From: raajarasigan on 25th August 2011 02:45 PM [Full View]

agree Plum.. that was the scenario even in ODIs for Yuvi before WC.. but he improved his fitness and performed really well in WC.. I am expecting a similar turn around in tests also.. அவன் திருந்திட்டான்னு அவனே சொன்னான்..

another point is, I don't see anyone filling # 6 spot better than Yuvi at the moment irrespective of the playing conditions...Raina & Kohli - they got few chances but struggled.. they have ample time to improve and come back.. Yuv is far more experienced .. so if they are giving any extended run to any of these players, I would certainly choose Yuvi..

From: Plum on 25th August 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

that was the scenario even in ODIs for Yuvi before WC.. but he improved his fitness and performed really well in WC.. I am expecting a similar turn around in tests also..

adhu epdinga? Before he had that downturn in fortune/form, he was a kingpin in ODI and Limited Overs Cricket. adhula coming back to form-kum Tests-la eppOvumE illAdha theRamaikkum vidhyAsam illai?

India-la WindieskedhirA evan irundhAlum succeed AvAn. adhu oru vishayamE illai. The key is who is good for Aussie tour? I'd bet on Pujara but he is unlikely to score heavily in Indian conditions to seal his place. So, it might be Yuvi/Raina unless Kohli gets an opp in the Windies series.

One hope is that Kohli comes of age in Australia. Let's see. Ponting veRa formukku vandhAchu. We might end up losing again in Australia or draawing. Why did England get the chance last year and we got it this year?

Why does England get the best timing to meet an opponent in terms of players out of form/injured etc? bloody fate

From: ajaybaskar on 25th August 2011 06:10 PM [Full View]

Sussex 162/4 (32.0/45 ov)

Machan has hit 50.

From: SoftSword on 25th August 2011 06:34 PM [Full View]

good to see praveen fit for the odis and ashu kutti back...

From: scorpio on 25th August 2011 07:10 PM [Full View]

Sussex 236 all out in 45 overs. Played much better than what England has scored against Ireland in their ODI right now.

From: ajaybaskar on 25th August 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

An English loss and Indian win today will help me with a good sleep tonite..

From: SoftSword on 25th August 2011 07:26 PM [Full View]

depends on our batsmen no 4 and 5.

From: Plum on 25th August 2011 07:51 PM [Full View]

Puriyaama pesuringa. Ireland win means test status. Means one more vote for England in ICC. Irukkara konja nanja powerum pOnA, anglo saxon araajagam thalai virichchu aadum icc-la

From: P_R on 25th August 2011 08:10 PM [Full View]

Allov..England team all schoolboys are playing.
Borthwick, Morkwick-னு யார்லாமோ வெளயாடுறானுங்க.

From: P_R on 25th August 2011 08:14 PM [Full View]

டெஸ்ட் வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்காம கடுப்புல இருந்த அண்ணன் ஸ்டீவ் ஃபின் ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டாப்ல.
ஆஸ்ட்ராலியாவை கதிகலங்க வைத்து இளைஞர் க்றிஸ் ஓக்ஸ் இருக்காப்ல.

As MMKR Nandagopal said: எத்தன ஆளுங்க டா

From: ajithfederer on 25th August 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

ulloorla aal kammi aana irukkave irukku then aaprikka matrum ayarlandhu.

Originally Posted by P_R

டெஸ்ட் வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்காம கடுப்புல இருந்த அண்ணன் ஸ்டீவ் ஃபின் ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டாப்ல.
ஆஸ்ட்ராலியாவை கதிகலங்க வைத்து இளைஞர் க்றிஸ் ஓக்ஸ் இருக்காப்ல.

As MMKR Nandagopal said: எத்தன ஆளுங்க டா

From: SoftSword on 25th August 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

for the pleasure of plum:
http://yfrog.com/kl79606525j

From: Plum on 25th August 2011 09:10 PM [Full View]

Thennappirkkalaiyum illainA australia england papua new guinea bermuda edhaiyum vittu vekka mAttAinga. IdhE kandi india indha mAdhiri nelamaila irundhirundha "not cricket" adhu idhunnu namma icc apologists pesuvanga. Ruleaiyum pottu adhai preventum panniduvanga. Evanum kekka mudiyadhu. .

From: ajithfederer on 25th August 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

kohli

rogith

From: wizzy on 25th August 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

may I come in

Truly a nightmarish series for an Indian cricket fan. Is Dravid's form a curse on the Indian team..whenever Dravid scores the rest of the batters go on a AWOL

..for the last 4 years Dravid's loss of form didn't hinder India's batting.
Raina/Mishra are the new Yuvi/Weed..a batsman who bowls well/ bowler who bats well.
VVS missed a golden chance to set his record straight in Eng as he did in SA. He is just a failure away from being dropped

Sach was either too defensive/attacking mindlessly.

The team management missed a trick by not playing Munaf patel. Freesanth/Ishant were a throw back to pre-India series Broad..the bowlers whose bowling spells are influenced by the position of the moon.

Dhoni's captaincy was again exposed ruthlessly in overseas conditions.
In subcontinental conditions Dhoni does the following -attack in the first session -choke the runs using defensive fieldsets in the mid session and then again look to take wickets with reverse swing/spinners using the old ball.

The above strategy works like a dream in subcontinental conditions with bowler like ZK who takes time to warmup hence doesn't give it all in the first session but after tea goes at full tilt. To execute this he needs 2 spinners to choke the runs in mid-session. Hence he prefers bowler like Weed/Ojha to choke the runs.

Also, if the pitch is a 'patta' he would set a 8-1 field and ask his bowlers to bowl outside off and play on the batsman's patience to gift their wickets. This strategy will work if you are playing against OZ/subcontinental sides who look to attack.

On overseas conditions he cannot play 2 spinners/cannot have 8-1 field against a side like Eng definitely not with bowlers like Sreesant/Mishra/RP/Ishant.

Flower seems to have taken a queue from OZ team which toured and won in 2004 against India.
Gilly employed the same approach of denying the Indian batsman easy singles and challenging the batsman to look for 4s all the time.

From: P_R on 25th August 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

பார்த்திபன் எல்லாம் அம்பது அடிக்கசொல்லொ, சிங்கம் லிட்டில் பாய்ஸ் கிட்ட எல்லாம் அவிட் ஆகுது

From: P_R on 25th August 2011 10:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

ulloorla aal kammi aana irukkave irukku then aaprikka matrum ayarlandhu.

எங்களுக்கு நிலப்பரப்பு கம்மிங்க. அதுனால இங்க அங்க கை நீட்டறது தான். நீங்களும் நாகாலாந்து, தாத்ரா நகர் ஹவேலி - எல்லா இடத்துலேர்ந்து ஆள் சேர்த்து விளையாடுங்க.

From: ajithfederer on 25th August 2011 11:30 PM [Full View]

Uzhagam muzhukka kollai adichadhu pathadhunu idhu veraya

Originally Posted by P_R

எங்களுக்கு நிலப்பரப்பு கம்மிங்க. அதுனால இங்க அங்க கை நீட்டறது தான். நீங்களும் நாகாலாந்து, தாத்ரா நகர் ஹவேலி - எல்லா இடத்துலேர்ந்து ஆள் சேர்த்து விளையாடுங்க.

From: KV on 26th August 2011 11:45 AM [Full View]

Just looked up Varun Aaron on Cricinfo. Ambi feed bouling ellam panranAme, consistenly above 140.. clocking 153 in a local game and all. Enna sangadhi?

From: Plum on 26th August 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

எங்களுக்கு நிலப்பரப்பு கம்மிங்க. அதுனால இங்க அங்க கை நீட்டறது தான். நீங்களும் நாகாலாந்து, தாத்ரா நகர் ஹவேலி - எல்லா இடத்துலேர்ந்து ஆள் சேர்த்து விளையாடுங்க.

inga anga kai nEEttinA paravA illai. udambE ingilAndhukku veLiya dhAnE irukku. idhukku edhukku Englandukku Test Status. South Africa-kiu reNdu team-nu ICC-la rule pass paNNittu pOgalAmE..

N Seenivasa - ennaiya BCCI-la consultantA sErthukkOppA, indha ECB-aiya epdi azhikkaRadhunnu master plan pOttu thaREn. cha, talent wastedbA

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th August 2011 12:05 PM [Full View]

Guess KV doesn't follow IPL

He played for Delhi Daredevils, but couldn't make a mark. He is touted to be fastest Indian bowler (along with Umesh Yadav) in domestic circles. He is far from a refined product, as far as I have seen. Hope he does well in coming ODI series.

From: KV on 26th August 2011 12:14 PM [Full View]

Perusa onnum thEradhunu sollunga. Full-blooded pace bowlingku namma naatla enna oru varappanjam. Chei.

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th August 2011 12:32 PM [Full View]

I hope he comes good.

Full-blooded pace bowlingku namma naatla enna oru varappanjam. Chei.

I think, it is because we don't have any fast bowling legend to look up. Every budding cricketer wants to become a batsman like Sachin or Dravid. Appuram enga irundhu fast bowlers varuvaanga

From: raajarasigan on 26th August 2011 12:35 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar'e fast bowlera varanumnu than aasipattar.. aana height kammindrathala mudiyala...

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th August 2011 12:39 PM [Full View]

Kadavul evvazhi, bakthargal avvazhi

From: ajaybaskar on 26th August 2011 12:48 PM [Full View]

There is a match today as well.. Vazhukkai Ramakrishna playing..

From: ajaybaskar on 26th August 2011 01:03 PM [Full View]

இது என்ன புது கதை?

From: Plum on 26th August 2011 01:16 PM [Full View]

pudhu kadhai illai. I read that concussions could lead to symptoms like this and what's worse, it is not uncommon to have this sort of symptoms continue for a year or more

Unlike Bhajjii, who ran away with an excuse of injury to protect his average and E/R, Gambhir must be commended for fighting out until the last, although he couldnt make a difference. I also doubted him initially for not opening but what I have read about the illness confirms that it is a genuine worry.

Guardian Live coverage had readers writing in berating Gambhir for not opening, and one reader explained his personal experience of nausea/vomitting/blur even after one year of the concussion and put out some links.

Respect for Gambhir and more sneers at Bhajji. I dont for a moment believe that he couldnt have bowled any more in that test. Ajay posted his partying pictures recently - were they after he returned to India? I wish someone investigates his activiteis after returning to India and gets a detailed medical report on his "injury".

From: Siv.S on 26th August 2011 02:23 PM [Full View]

Ian Chappell criticises Indian selectors

They have not also faced up to the fact that Harbhajan Singh has not been a good attacking weapon for at least for a good two years now. And where are the good fast bowlers?," he questioned.

"Rohit Sharma is twice as good a batsman as Suresh Raina and he has not yet played Tests. Okay, there may be personality problems, and Rohit might not have a big amount of first-class runs, but you don't worry about all that. You just back your judgement. Some guys adapt to the big stage faster than others."

http://www.sify.com/sports/ian-chapp...zrudfficj.html

From: Plum on 26th August 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

Fletcher is known to back people on talent and character. Michael Vaughan and Trescothick weren't big scorers in County Cricket but he backed them over statistical kings. Hopefully, he'll have the power to do that here.

OTOH, he doesnt deal with eccentric and not-well-behaved characters well - Swann is an example.

The first point augurs well for Rohit - the second point doesnt

From: P_R on 26th August 2011 08:19 PM [Full View]

KP rested for ODIs.

ரொம்ப ஓவரா போகாதீங்கடா. ஓல்டுகப்பு கெலிச்ச டீம் இது.

From: raajarasigan on 26th August 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

Series thottha solrathukku oru reason kedichiduchu England'kku

From: Plum on 26th August 2011 10:10 PM [Full View]

They are prioritising tests-amam.
Series epdiyum jeyippanga. Cook can be the chef and Bell boy can take care of the attending and waiting. Above all, Cricketing Gods are on their side now. Kaanfident. Time. Ippodhaikku asaichukka mudiyaadhu. Oru 10 varushan kazhichu pesuvom but appo england supporters kannula pada mattanga adhaan problem

From: wizzy on 26th August 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

Don't see the point of Sachin still playing the odis after winning the worldcup. Last thing India would want is to lose Sach to injury in a inconsequential odi match.
BCCI needs to fire the polli fitness trainer Ramji..he has done enough damage already with his fake fitness reports on players and get back Adrian Le Roux or Gregory King..
Compare the fitness of class of 2003 with the one toured England/played in the worldcup. Can't remember the last time India played a series without losing a player to fitness/injury.

From: 19thmay on 27th August 2011 12:17 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

KP rested for ODIs.

ரொம்ப ஓவரா போகாதீங்கடா. ஓல்டுகப்பு கெலிச்ச டீம் இது.

konjam ekkachakkama thaan poitrukku...

From: ajithfederer on 27th August 2011 01:58 AM [Full View]

Solla kelvi is KP averages in the 20's in ODI's since Jan 2009. Have to check stats though.

Originally Posted by P_R

KP rested for ODIs.

ரொம்ப ஓவரா போகாதீங்கடா. ஓல்டுகப்பு கெலிச்ச டீம் இது.

From: ajithfederer on 27th August 2011 01:59 AM [Full View]

Yes he does

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ing;view=match

From: Plum on 27th August 2011 07:15 AM [Full View]

KP, like Laxman, will be fired at the first instance of continuous failure for two series. Actually, he is $uch hated in England and this is another scope to exploit to divide and rule ECB/English Cricket team.

From: ajithfederer on 27th August 2011 08:37 AM [Full View]

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/136400/136410.jpg

Virat Kohli's second half-century in two days helped the Indians win their tour match in Canterbury © Bipin Patel

From: ajithfederer on 27th August 2011 08:37 AM [Full View]

Kolhi thambi, nalla aadudhu. Seekiram test xi-la rogithayum konduvaangappa.

From: ajithfederer on 27th August 2011 08:46 AM [Full View]

I don't mind sachin playing ODI's against the top 3 (Eng, Aus and SA) either at home or away or at neutral grounds.
On second thoughts encounters against Pakistan are important also.

Originally Posted by wizzy

Don't see the point of Sachin still playing the odis after winning the worldcup. Last thing India would want is to lose Sach to injury in a inconsequential odi match.

From: P_R on 27th August 2011 09:45 AM [Full View]

Sachin retire aayittA appuram naangellAm enna paakkuradhaam?
yajamaan, naangellAm akkA illAdha aambaLainga

vENumnA IPL-lErndhu retired aayikkattum

From: wizzy on 27th August 2011 10:38 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

I don't mind sachin playing ODI's against the top 3 (Eng, Aus and SA) either at home or away or at neutral grounds.
On second thoughts encounters against Pakistan are important also.

What does it serve? Sach picking and choosing odis completely unsettles the team. Its about time we invested on a backup openers who could replace Sehwag/Gambhir in odis who seem to be injured half the time.

From: P_R on 27th August 2011 11:13 AM [Full View]

What does it serve?

Greater interest of the future of Indian cricket - avvaLavu mukkiyamndreengaLA?

From: kid-glove on 27th August 2011 11:32 AM [Full View]

Not sure if this is posted already, the art of waiting

Incidentally posted a BBC interview a little while back where Brian Close picks apart the modern game. I keep going back to it.

From: P_R on 27th August 2011 11:32 AM [Full View]

When England hit rock bottom

From: wizzy on 27th August 2011 11:51 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Greater interest of the future of Indian cricket - avvaLavu mukkiyamndreengaLA?

By playing in odis?
I would rather have Sach prolong his test career by opting out of odis.

From: Plum on 27th August 2011 12:42 PM [Full View]

Indian Media

idhuvE English MediavA irundhirundhA, "Is Laxman Dropped" apdinnu avanOda stats eduththu pOttu kozhappam uNdAkki iruppAnga.

namma mediakku sondha mULai kedayAdhu - KP dropped apdinnu keLappi vuttu avainga team spirit-ai kolaikkalAmnu.

Why am I not in Indian tabloid industry?

From: P_R on 27th August 2011 02:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Yes he does

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ing;view=match

Pre Ashes he was thadaving in Test match also.
ippo dhaan reinvigorate aayAchE.

From: ajithfederer on 28th August 2011 12:01 AM [Full View]

Who is the replacement for sachin tendulkar in the ODI circuit?

Last 3 years we won in Aus and in SL where we haven't won before. Even in WC after setting 2 magnificient 100's the team just collapsed after him. 50's in both q/f and s/f's. Let the man decide when he wants to quit.

Originally Posted by wizzy

What does it serve? Sach picking and choosing odis completely unsettles the team. Its about time we invested on a backup openers who could replace Sehwag/Gambhir in odis who seem to be injured half the time.

From: wizzy on 28th August 2011 01:09 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Who is the replacement for sachin tendulkar in the ODI circuit?

Last 3 years we won in Aus and in SL where we haven't won before. Even in WC after setting 2 magnificient 100's the team just collapsed after him. 50's in both q/f and s/f's. Let the man decide when he wants to quit.

I do not disagree with Sachin's contributions to our major odi victories. The need of the hour is to build a squad of 15 for the next worldcup..even the ardent Sachin fanatic wouldn't count on Sachin to play until the next worldcup. He has scaled all the highs in odis which are humanly possible..whats the point of him continuing to play in odis?
For how long will he babysit the young Indian batters overseas?

From: ajithfederer on 28th August 2011 01:15 AM [Full View]

Correct dhanga ninga solradhu aana namma yengg indian batsmen ellam seri illayae. Naama sachin pathi pesittu irukkom aana namma selectors dravidae marubadiyum koopitirukaanga.

From: Plum on 28th August 2011 07:18 AM [Full View]

Why ODIS at all? India ODI team ekkEdu kettA enna? I wish he plays tests only - 200 tests thotta adhuvum oru perumai dhAnE? (Not like Kapil Dev but in top form through). Why waste form, energy, luck on ODIs? Not to mention the injury threat. Tests-la injure Agi Career end AnA adhu vERa vishayam - ODIsla injure Agi Test Career shortened/ended AnA?

IPL/ODIs rendulErundhum retire AgaNum. vENumnA Test Career retire AnappuRam oru rendu varusham IPL veLayAdattum

From: raajarasigan on 29th August 2011 12:41 PM [Full View]

Gautam Gambhir likely to return home

With little improvement in his agonising condition in the last 10 days, India's opener Gautam Gambhir could be packing his bags to return home.

In what could be a big blow to the campaign of the defending world champions in the forthcoming one-day series, Gambhir is likely to suffer the fate of the likes of Zaheer Khan, Yuvraj Singh, Harbhajan Singh and Virender Sehwag who came or joined the Indian squad and left without lending significantly to the team's cause.

India has been whitewashed 4-0 in the Test series; lost their number one Test rankings and is in danger of suffering a similar debilitating fate in the one-day series, starting with the first game in Chester-le-Street on September 3.

Gambhir had backpedalled to catch a pull by Kevin Pietersen at mid-on on the second day of the final Test at the Oval on August 19 but tripped and fell on his head and subsequently suffered from a blurred vision.

He didn't open in both innings of the Oval Test and came down late in the order, contributing little by way of runs. Since then, he has visited doctors and got MRI scans done which have shown clean results, yet Gambhir's condition hasn't improved.

Gambhir's case could be similar to the one suffered by South African fast bowler Dale Steyn during the Champions' league last year when he too had backpedalled to take catch Michael Hussey in a semi-final clash between Chennai Super Kings and Royal Challengers bangalore and fell on his head.

Steyn's MRI scans too showed little but the paceman took 3-4 weeks to get himself sorted out. By the looks of it, Gambhir could also suffer a similar fate and be out of action for 3-4 weeks, putting in doubt even his participation when England pay a return visit to India for a one-day series in early October.

From: raajarasigan on 29th August 2011 12:45 PM [Full View]

Parthiv Patel - Tendulkar

From: satissh_r on 29th August 2011 01:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

Parthiv Patel - Tendulkar

Ajiyanka Rahane is an option I would love to try but Parthivuku ku than 1st chance pola

From: scorpio on 29th August 2011 07:25 PM [Full View]

Dravid in the playing XI in the T20 practice match against Leicester

India- 6 overs, 56/1. Farex hitting it hard.

From: ajithfederer on 30th August 2011 12:41 AM [Full View]

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/136400/136464.jpg

MS Dhoni was given an honorary doctorate by Leicester's De Montfort University after the Indians' tour game against Leicestershire, Leicestershire v Indians, Twenty20, Leicester, August 29, 2011

From: ajithfederer on 30th August 2011 02:01 AM [Full View]

Looking ahead, the future's so bright I gotta wear shades

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Post the England tour, the FTP looks like this

5 ODIs vs England at home
3 Tests 5 ODIs versus West Indies at home.
4 Tests and 8-11 ODIs versus Australia away
3 Tests and 5 ODIs versus Pakistan at home.
3 Tests versus Sri lanka away.
3 Tests versus New Zealand at home.
T20 WC at Sri Lanka
4 Tests versus England at home
7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus England at home.
4 Tests versus Australia at home.
This is the lead up to the Test playoff/Championship in England.
Following this
3 ODIs versus Zimbabwe away
7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus Australia at home.

Doing the sums, between September 2011 though November 2013, India play 24 Tests, 38 ODIs and 2 T20s, most of them at home.. This does not include the games played in the ICC Test Championship, the T20 WC, IPL and Champions League games.

Working with the numbers above, India play 140 days of cricket over a period of 2 years. Which brings up the question of workload, rotation and rest.

..........

.....

http://www.boredcricketcrazyindians....t-i-gotta.html

From: ajithfederer on 30th August 2011 02:07 AM [Full View]

GM in Ullathai alli tha: One by two, 2 by 3 Totally 2,500 roobees fine.

From: 19thmay on 30th August 2011 09:38 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raajarasigan

Parthiv Patel - Tendulkar

Why? Parthiv is playing decently. His performance in the practice matches were good.

From: Plum on 30th August 2011 10:02 AM [Full View]

Parthiban veRum batsmanA eduthukkalAm. TechnkilAm compactA irukkum. Draw paNNa EdhuvAna batsman. Rainakku badhil vechurundhukkalAmO?

From: wizzy on 30th August 2011 10:17 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Looking ahead, the future's so bright I gotta wear shades

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Post the England tour, the FTP looks like this

5 ODIs vs England at home
3 Tests 5 ODIs versus West Indies at home.
4 Tests and 8-11 ODIs versus Australia away
3 Tests and 5 ODIs versus Pakistan at home.
3 Tests versus Sri lanka away.
3 Tests versus New Zealand at home.
T20 WC at Sri Lanka
4 Tests versus England at home
7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus England at home.
4 Tests versus Australia at home.
This is the lead up to the Test playoff/Championship in England.
Following this
3 ODIs versus Zimbabwe away
7 ODIs and 1 T20 versus Australia at home.

Doing the sums, between September 2011 though November 2013, India play 24 Tests, 38 ODIs and 2 T20s, most of them at home.. This does not include the games played in the ICC Test Championship, the T20 WC, IPL and Champions League games.

Working with the numbers above, India play 140 days of cricket over a period of 2 years. Which brings up the question of workload, rotation and rest.

..........

.....

http://www.boredcricketcrazyindians....t-i-gotta.html

great...so there is very good chance that we will regain the no.1 rank in next 2 years

From: ajithfederer on 31st August 2011 08:06 AM [Full View]

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/136400/136490.jpg

Sachin Tendulkar will miss the Twenty20 fixture against England at Old Trafford, but Rahul Dravid is set for a T20 debut and swansong

© Getty Images

From: P_R on 31st August 2011 08:39 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Sachin Tendulkar will miss the Twenty20 fixture against England at Old Trafford, but Rahul Dravid is set for a T20 debut and swansong

enna oLarrAinga. Sachin retired from T20 4 years back only.

From: ajithfederer on 31st August 2011 09:03 AM [Full View]

What was Sachin Tendulkar's aggregate Test runs when Rahul Dravid made his debut in 1996? What is the difference in aggregate Test runs of these players today? - Basu

Rahul Dravid made his Test debut in June 1996 against England at Lord's. Up until that time Tendulkar had aggregated 2,629 runs in 57 innings of 39 Tests at an average of 52.58.

http://im.rediff.com/cricket/2011/aug/30ssld5.jpg

Since the 1996 Lord's Test, Dravid has aggregated 12,752 runs in 271 innings of 156 Tests for India at an average of 53.36 (his tally does not include one Test he played for ICC World XI). In the same period, Tendulkar has aggregated 12,336 runs in 241 innings of 142 Tests at an average of 57.11. So Dravid has scored 416 runs more than Tendulkar while playing 30 innings more in this period.

As of today, Tendulkar's run-tally is 14,965 for India -- 2,213 runs more than Dravid. If we include 23 runs Dravid made in the Super Test for ICC World XI, then this difference becomes 2,190.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-...t/20110831.htm

From: raajarasigan on 31st August 2011 10:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Why? Parthiv is playing decently. His performance in the practice matches were good.

might be.. but somehow I don't like his batting...

From: Plum on 31st August 2011 11:13 AM [Full View]

yOv, ungaLukku pudikkaRadhA mukkiyam? What did we learn? we need test batsmen who can stick in the crease. Rainar, Yuvarasar(who made a lucky 50 through which he didnt convince he had thet echnique to surive except on random lucky occasions like this one) et al havent shown that.

Parthiban, in retrospect,, does look like a prospect who can do that. He did that as a 18 year old in England - sticking around decently. With the benefit of hindsight, he might have stuck better than Raina. And given Dhoni's struggles, might not have done worse as a keeper on this tour(udanE Dhoni fans kodjhikka kUdAdhu - overall, Parthiban is a less safe keeper than Dhoni but Dhoni did so bad in this tour that there was nothing to lose)

From: satissh_r on 31st August 2011 10:51 PM [Full View]

A Rahane

the hook against Broad and pull against Dernbach were class

From: satissh_r on 31st August 2011 11:06 PM [Full View]

No one else watching this? Always liked to watch Rahane in whatever domestic matches I've watched him play. This innings has been very very good and what more he oozes class

For me he is the ideal replacement for R Dravid

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 31st August 2011 11:13 PM [Full View]

wow!!! dravid has just three sixes in three balls......

From: kid-glove on 31st August 2011 11:17 PM [Full View]

Good to see Rahane doing well. Long term prospect!

From: P_R on 31st August 2011 11:23 PM [Full View]

I switch on TV and 2 wickets in 3 balls. I feel I have failed in my duty.

From: wizzy on 31st August 2011 11:37 PM [Full View]

KP is playing? he wasn't rested?

From: P_R on 31st August 2011 11:41 PM [Full View]

Rested for ODIs

From: wizzy on 31st August 2011 11:44 PM [Full View]

Dravid>>Dhoni in t-20!

From: P_R on 1st September 2011 08:24 AM [Full View]

It's okay guys, you only lost to the reigning T20 World Champions.
One Day-la India dhaan Kingu.

From: venkkiram on 1st September 2011 08:40 AM [Full View]

165 சவாலான இலக்கு எண்ணிக்கை இல்லைதான். ஆனாலும் ரொம்ப டீசண்டான எண்ணிக்கை. சிறந்த 20/20 பேட்ஸ்மேன்கள் நம்மிடம் அதிகளவில் இருந்தும் அறிமுகமான ரஹானே , டிராவிட் மற்றும் நட்சத்திர ரெய்னாவின் ஒத்துழைப்பினால் இதை அடைய முடிந்தது. பந்து வீச்சில் சொதப்பிவிட்டோம். அஷ்வின் பரிமளிக்காத ஆட்டத்தில் நாம் தோற்பது வாடிக்கையாகி வருகிறது.

From: wizzy on 1st September 2011 10:37 AM [Full View]

on a docile pitch OZ pacers are making the batsman hurry, if Johnson can have one of his good days they can wrap SL cheaply.

From: Plum on 1st September 2011 10:47 AM [Full View]

SL irukkattum. England kitta Aussie bandhaa sellumA?

From: wizzy on 1st September 2011 11:05 AM [Full View]

forget Engerlandu..I am worried about our series against OZ..Punter and co against our popgun attack. replace sky sports commentators with channel 9/
Nass with Healy..rinse/repeat

From: Plum on 1st September 2011 11:41 AM [Full View]

Australia are graceless winners and sore losers. epdiyum lack of grace edhirpArppadhu dhAn. England thOthA they'll focus their Guns on their own players. They arent as sore losers as Australia but are whiners.
But England kottathai adakka kUdiya orE cricket team Australia dhAn. adhanAla I am a full time Aussie supporter now. I dont turst the Indian team to dethrone England. South Africans are chokers. So, Australia dhAn orE hope.
Let Australia win against India - I will join Healy and co in the celebration and flame throwing.

From: SoftSword on 1st September 2011 03:14 PM [Full View]

bledy dhoni should hav started with ashwin...

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 1st September 2011 03:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

No one else watching this? Always liked to watch Rahane in whatever domestic matches I've watched him play. This innings has been very very good and what more he oozes class

For me he is the ideal replacement for R Dravid

Highlights ippodhaan paathen. Rahane looks comfortable against pace

. Is it because of T20 or has he changed his game against the spinners? andha Swann inside-out shot-laam edho vidhyasama scoop pannina maadhiri irundhudhu. vazhakkama ippadi aada maattaane

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From: satissh_r on 1st September 2011 05:58 PM [Full View]

Hey Puliyan!! Long see no time??? Konja nalave enaku ivanthan RD oda role edukanumnu thonuthu. What do you think?

From: Plum on 1st September 2011 07:03 PM [Full View]

PuLi, indha Rajasthan Royal support paNNingaLE? EnglandlAm suffort paNdradhillaiyA? RR-um England owners dhAnE? Adhai suffort paNNinga. Englandai support paNNA ennavaam?

From: raajarasigan on 1st September 2011 07:27 PM [Full View]

Rahane

very good start in debut.. looks promising.. Dravid replacement'a? poruthirundhu paarppom..

From: SoftSword on 1st September 2011 07:32 PM [Full View]

dravid replacement?
indha visayam rahane'ko selectors'ko theriyumaa?
yaenaa t20 matchla debut pannirukkaanga... vera edho plan vechirukkaangalo..?

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 1st September 2011 08:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Hey Puliyan!! Long see no time??? Konja nalave enaku ivanthan RD oda role edukanumnu thonuthu. What do you think?

Hey Sathish, kandippa payyan top-a varuvaan. He has got the game, appetite for big scores and solid temperament. And he has a better First Class average than Pujara

. Oh wait, Pujara worshipers are going to be pissed off that Rahane is talked about as RD's replacement and complain about talking a player up based on a T20 innings

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Didn't Menaria score a century in Emerging players tourney? avanukku chance kudukkaama edhukku Ravindra Sadesa-vai eduthu vachurukkaainga

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From: SoftSword on 1st September 2011 08:17 PM [Full View]

jadeja in team >> hub TRP rating

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 1st September 2011 08:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

PuLi, indha Rajasthan Royal support paNNingaLE? EnglandlAm suffort paNdradhillaiyA? RR-um England owners dhAnE? Adhai suffort paNNinga. Englandai support paNNA ennavaam?

Plum, RR support pannadhukku main reason Warne. Now that he is retired, no more support for RR.

Ashes-la Australia thothu Ponting-ku captaincy pona varaikkum konjam sandhosham. mathapadi England team-ayum pudikkaadhu, adhula velayadara oru player-ayum pudikkaadhu (Swann is an exception). Ian Bell game mattum paakkara maadhiri irukku, but he seems to be a bonafide cheat so avan aadinaalum kaduppudhaan varudhu.

And contrary to common belief that England's No 1 will be short-lived and they will struggle in subcontinent, I think they would have no trouble in SL (minus Murali) and Ind (minus some of the big guns). SA can pose a threat but they are chokers so are of no use. Let us get ready for a decade of English dominance. One good thing is people may realize how lovable (relatively) the Aussies of 2000s were.

- anganga IMO IMHO pottukkanga

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From: Puliyan_Biryani on 1st September 2011 08:32 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

jadeja in team >> hub TRP rating

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LM, oru varushathukku munnaadi hubber Sourav Sadesa team-ku varradhai pathi savaal vittaaru. adhu unmai aayiduchu pola

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From: Plum on 1st September 2011 09:03 PM [Full View]

PuLi, reg Australia, nAnE thaw AyittEn. England are insufferable! Give me Ricky anyday

From: satissh_r on 1st September 2011 09:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

Didn't Menaria score a century in Emerging players tourney? avanukku chance kudukkaama edhukku Ravindra Sadesa-vai eduthu vachurukkaainga

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I think it is a case of selectors considering Jadeja a better bowler. Menaria's strength seems to be his batting, hopefully he'll get an oppurtunity soon

From: SoftSword on 1st September 2011 09:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

I think it is a case of selectors considering Jadeja a better bowler.

than dravid?
ipl'la saadhaaranamaa six adichuttu irundhaan...
now that we have chosen him in the squad, its more likely he ll be in 11, and lets hope he carries that form... i wish he would not replace ashwin in the squad as the spinner.

From: satissh_r on 1st September 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

than dravid?
ipl'la saadhaaranamaa six adichuttu irundhaan...
now that we have chosen him in the squad, its more likely he ll be in 11, and lets hope he carries that form... i wish he would not replace ashwin in the squad as the spinner.

Softy, my point was about his selection over Menaria's. No 8 role la avana ada veikka neraya chance irukku.... If Dravid plays then it'll be one among Ashwin/Mishra/Jadeja in the XI.

From: raajarasigan on 1st September 2011 09:45 PM [Full View]

Jadeja might replace Ashwin? Ashwin'kku ippo thaanda chance..Oosi pona bhajji varadhukkulla permanent aavonom..

From: SoftSword on 1st September 2011 09:49 PM [Full View]

i got ur point... i was jus mentioning that he maybe a better bowler than dravid and was expressing my fear that he should not play at the expense of ashwin.

From: P_R on 1st September 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

England team-ayum pudikkaadhu, adhula velayadara oru player-ayum pudikkaadhu

sidhdhi vinAyagA, makkaLukku nalladhoru manamAtrathai aruLvaayaaga.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

And contrary to common belief that England's No 1 will be short-lived and they will struggle in subcontinent, I think they would have no trouble in SL (minus Murali) and Ind (minus some of the big guns).

Agree.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

SA can pose a threat but they are chokers so are of no use.

I think SA in SA will be tough.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

Let us get ready for a decade of English dominance.

Decade ellAm illai. Aus will be back much sooner.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

One good thing is people may realize how lovable (relatively) the Aussies of 2000s were.

ennavO pOnga. indha pachchiLam baalagargaLai yEn dhaan ellArum karichchu kottureeengaLO.

- anganga IMO IMHO pottukkanga

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From: Puliyan_Biryani on 2nd September 2011 01:29 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

England team-ayum pudikkaadhu, adhula velayadara oru player-ayum pudikkaadhu

Originally Posted by P_R

sidhdhi vinAyagA, makkaLukku nalladhoru manamAtrathai aruLvaayaaga.

engalukku manamaatram varradhu irukkattum, adhu ennadhu England-la endha player velayaduradha paathaalum mechanical-ave irukku. ada nethikku aada aarambicha ilangaila kooda Aravindar maadhiri oruthar irukk(ndh)aaru aanaa Cirikkattaye kandupudicha England-ku yen ippadi oru nelamai? Pliss to investigate. We know Steve Va, Gilly, Warnie are quite popular in India and other neutral countries. Any Englishman you can think of who is popular in India/neutral countries?

A few years back, there was an article in Indhu "Cricket still awaits its Brazil" criticizing Australians on-field behaviour in comparison with Brazil's Football team (then champions). I feel the headline is still applicable with a possible extension to England's skills/magic or lack thereof.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

SA can pose a threat but they are chokers so are of no use.

Originally Posted by P_R

I think SA in SA will be tough.

Weren't there 2 draws where England hung on by a wicket. Draw is ofcourse the beauty of Test matches but the lack of killer instinct is what makes it difficult to think of SA as a genuine threat. And India managed to draw the series in SA so wouldn't the whitewashers be expected to prevail in SA

. Kirsten/ABD edhavadhu pannina undu.

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

Let us get ready for a decade of English dominance.

Originally Posted by P_R

Decade ellAm illai. Aus will be back much sooner.

I don't know Plum's intentions (chatterjee or not) on wishing for Aussie dominance, but Aus seem to be the only team capable of dethroning England. They have the winning attitude, ulcer,etc and more importantly they produce decent fast bowlers. All they need is a couple of good batsmen and they will start moving up in the rankings automatically.

From: P_R on 2nd September 2011 08:24 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PuLiyan

Any Englishman you can think of who is popular in India/neutral countries?

Wait ya. Till now England was followed only by a few who have only seen them promise every now and then slip back to break our hearts. Did Border's team have a lot of international favourites around the world when they won the WC in '87? It is only when they are able to be on top for long periods of time, when multiple teams fight them that their team is known seen and observed more and favourites developed. We have only now arrived. adhukkuLLa kEttA eppadi?

Lacking in magic 'ndreenga. Paper ellArum 'clinical, clinical' ndRainga. I don't get it.
Cook - sari vidunda. evvaLO periya mechanical-nu mudivE paNNitteenga.
Strauss-um mechanicalA? KP? If so, then I don't get it at all :sake hands: dhaan.

Eng on-field behaviour as bad as Aussies!!!
Sledging, cheat-catch claims, swearing at the bowler who has the good nature to apologize for the bouncer, screaming in the face of the umpire after taking a shady catch, declaring the batsman out themselves and giving him the nasty if they don't leave.....

Swann stump-ai eththuvaan, umpire kitta muRaippAn. Fine illaama thappippAn. adhai edhirththu uNNaviradham irukka vENdiyadhu dhaan. illaingalA. adhukkaaga Australia comparison is three much. Give England some more time to commit the sins.

And the disfavour for Aus started quite late. Post Taylor methinks. Englandukku ippovE aarambichutteenga

oru uzhaippALi vaazhkkaila munnukku vandhA sandhOsappadungappA.

From: 19thmay on 2nd September 2011 10:21 AM [Full View]

Can someone tell me whats so special about Vinay Kumar? Naane avanvida konjam better-a pandhu poduven.

From: wizzy on 2nd September 2011 11:12 AM [Full View]

Thenn Aprica bowling stocks aren't that great either..if Steyn/Morkel pull up in a series against a top side I see them struggling just like us. I still have doubts on Tahir.. his effectiveness against a quality bat..I have only seen him bully club cricketers in Eng.

OZ probs are multifold..they need to find test match openers..Twtson is not a test match opener and he doesn't have a temperament/ pedigree/mane thane to score big. His game is ideal for no. 6 who can score quickly/face the second new ball. Having said all this I can see OZ winning the series against proteas..for some inexplicable reasons SA don't seem to win big at home.

Engerland has developed 8 phast test bowlers who could walk into any of the current international sides and looking at the state of other test teams I don't see any one challenging them. The critical phase for them will the transition when that happens from Strauss to Cook.

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 2nd September 2011 02:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Wait ya. Till now England was followed only by a few who have only seen them promise every now and then slip back to break our hearts. Did Border's team have a lot of international favourites around the world when they won the WC in '87? It is only when they are able to be on top for long periods of time, when multiple teams fight them that their team is known seen and observed more and favourites developed. We have only now arrived. adhukkuLLa kEttA eppadi?

sari eppo kekkalaam. 5 varusham? 10 varusham eduthukkunga. adhukkappuram Hub-la oru poll vaikkaromnu vainga. Who is more popular - Gilly or Prior? Prior poll-la jeyikka venaam, oru 50% votes of Gilly poll panninaale podhum, othukittu vizhundhu kumbidarom. nambikkai irukka

? Gilly once-in-a-gen player avaru kooda eppidi potti poda mudiyumngareengala. sari Do you think Prior is popular in India?-nu oru poll vachi paakkalaam.

I know all this is hypothetical, but I believe this English team deosn't have it in them to become popular in neutral countries. Warne placed Mark Va above Steve Va in a list and said that "If both of them were playing on the same day at different grounds, who would I pay to watch?". Warne's personal one-upmanship aside, don't the neutrals (including us) think similarly?

Popularity evanukku venum, winners are always hated, kelicha podhumneenganna I am with you on that

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Originally Posted by P_R

Lacking in magic 'ndreenga. Paper ellArum 'clinical, clinical' ndRainga. I don't get it.
Cook - sari vidunda. evvaLO periya mechanical-nu mudivE paNNitteenga.
Strauss-um mechanicalA? KP? If so, then I don't get it at all :sake hands: dhaan.

Clinical-um correctudhaan. Clinical - "strictly objective" "plain, simple, and usually unattractive"

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Strauss? - konjam muyarchi batting maadhiridhan irukkum. Of course better than Cook.
KP - "I am not English mate, I work here". ivaraiyum English-nu edai podanuma? He comes in the second category you defined for aesthetics. Occasionally awkward.
Bell - You haven't asked but still he would tick most of the boxes. Classiest while putting bad ones away. Only grouse is doesn't pull out the genius card at all i.e. in terms of making a genuine good ball look half-decent.

Originally Posted by P_R

Eng on-field behaviour as bad as Aussies!!!
Sledging, cheat-catch claims, swearing at the bowler who has the good nature to apologize for the bouncer, screaming in the face of the umpire after taking a shady catch, declaring the batsman out themselves and giving him the nasty if they don't leave.....

I didn't follow the Ind test series completely but heard that Mishra copped an earful throughout his stay on the last day. Raina was constantly sledged during his brief knocks and KP was always having a go at PK.
Cheat-catch? In Ashes, Ian Bell knew clearly that he had edged the ball but still asked for DRS. Hotspot again failed to detect an edge and Bell was reprieved. And the commentator's were having a hearty laugh at Bell's guilty as hell expression. Video kedaicha post panren. idhu endha category-la varum.

Originally Posted by P_R

Swann stump-ai eththuvaan, umpire kitta muRaippAn. Fine illaama thappippAn. adhai edhirththu uNNaviradham irukka vENdiyadhu dhaan. illaingalA. adhukkaaga Australia comparison is three much. Give England some more time to commit the sins.

I am partial towards Swann. avan edhu panninaalum enakku onnum prachanai illai

. It is Broad who gets on the nerve most of the times. One rare occasion when I was watching the Test series, Broad was appealing for a no-hope lbw. And Hussain says something along these lines "This is why we all love Broad. He knows clearly that it is not out, but he feels every ball he bowls deserves a wicket and nothing would stop him from appealing. It is spontaneous and from his heart. He is a great competitor .. yadda yadda". idhukkellaam enna comment panradhunnu neengale mudivu pannikkanga. And I read that Broad went and checked Laxman's bat for Vaseline, cheekily-nu oru additional coverup word vera. Seriously if he has such a doubt then take it with the ump, adhudhaane namma aitheegam. adhuvum enga thangamana rasa Laxman bat-ai ivar check pannraaraam, ennaangada dei.

Originally Posted by P_R

And the disfavour for Aus started quite late. Post Taylor methinks. Englandukku ippovE aarambichutteenga
oru uzhaippALi vaazhkkaila munnukku vandhA sandhOsappadungappA.

sareeng, jeyichuttu pesareenga. ippo naanga edhu sonnaalum poraamai-la pesara maadhiridhaan irukkum. We will meet. Will meet. Meet. : smile :

From: Plum on 2nd September 2011 03:47 PM [Full View]

Stuart Broad - within a couple of years, easily replaced Ricky's file of crimes assiduously built over a 16 year career.

What a crook!

From: P_R on 2nd September 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

who is more popular - Gilly or Prior?

idhenna comparison? naanE Gilly-ku thaan vote pOduvEn.
Compare with pre-Healy up and coming Aus team fellows (who kept in the '87 WC?).

Popularity evanukku venum, winners are always hated

Nevaire. Naan oru socialist. Currently gloating Eng topping - which I have been denied all along. Surely if they remain on top for too long, I will slowly be less and less enamoured.

Originally Posted by PuLiyan

Mishra copped an earful throughout his stay on the last day.....
Raina was constantly sledged during his brief knocks

Is it. sammandhappattavanga yaarunnu sollunga, udanE vanmaiyA kaNdikkaREn.

Originally Posted by PuLiyan

........ and KP was always having a go at PK.

avinga orE IPL team-aamE. Friendly banternu sonnAinga.
[QUOTEPuLiyan]Ian Bell knew clearly that he had edged the ball but still asked for DRS. Hotspot again failed to detect an edge and Bell was reprieved. And the commentator's were having a hearty laugh at Bell's guilty as hell expression. Video kedaicha post panren. idhu endha category-la varum.[/QUOTE] kEpmArithanathu-la varum.

I did not feel offended by the news about the vaseline check by Broad. I did find it cheeky, exactly.

edhu sonnaalum poraamai-la pesara maadhiridhaan irukkum.

appadi ellAm illai. I just feel it is disproportionate to slot them with the excesses of the Aussies.

Strauss-ta mic neettumbOdhellAm naan emotion aagi, "adEi getththA edhAvadhu solrA" appidinnu kaththikittu irundhEn - pala varusha puzhukkaan peerikittu vandhudhu.
aanaa kadaisi varaikkin gaNNiyamAvE maindain paNNittAn.

Just imagine losing like this Ponting or Steve vA. konjam pEchchA pEsuvAinga?

From: P_R on 2nd September 2011 05:32 PM [Full View]

usanbai calls some Indian players 'donkeys in the field'
kadai adaippu!!

Is that an English expression or something for those who drag their feet?

From: 19thmay on 2nd September 2011 05:37 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Is it. sammandhappattavanga yaarunnu sollunga, udanE vanmaiyA kaNdikkaREn.

adangave maateengala?

From: 19thmay on 2nd September 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

usanbai calls some Indian players 'donkeys in the field'
kadai adaippu!!

Is that an English expression or something for those who drag their feet?

Kazhudhai?? U mean daankee??

From: SoftSword on 2nd September 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

rombave over....
donkeygate???

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 2nd September 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

Kazhudhai?? U mean daankee??

yep!!! Heard it in commentary myself. Romba overa thaan pesuraan naaser hussain.

From: P_R on 2nd September 2011 06:50 PM [Full View]

Karthikeya Date on the Ind-Eng T20

His first few slogs didn't connect very well, but the last two did. After the last of these (which was his third six in three balls), Cricinfo's commentator had this to say

Patel to Dravid, SIX, Dravid's hit three consecutive sixes. I am pinching myself hard. Ouch. I am not dreaming. Bosh! Another flat nothign ball from Russel Peters, and he sure is getting hurt a real bad here. Slg-swept into the crowd behind midwicket again.

He was pinching himself because Rahul Dravid (Rahul Dravid!) hit three consecutive sixes. I mean, was this guy not watching? The man was trying to hit pretty much everything for six! So what was the surprise? That a man with 20,000 plus runs against the highest standard of bowling in the world connected well three times in three balls? The surprise could not possibly have been that Dravid tried to hit a six three times in three balls. Dravid was basically trying to hit anything the spinners bowled really hard, hopefully for six. Or was the surprise that an international batsman could hit the ball 80 yards?

I read a description somewhere today that Samit Patel "lured" Ajinkya Rahane out of his crease. Lured? Really?

From: Plum on 2nd September 2011 10:01 PM [Full View]

Enakku ninga dhaan Date vesham kattikinu ezhudhareengalonu doubt irunchu. But avaru Sunny paasam, Garby paasam, anti-England tendency ellaam paarthavune ninga illainu mudivu pannitten. Assuming you are not faking that also

From: littlemaster1982 on 2nd September 2011 10:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

LM, oru varushathukku munnaadi hubber Sourav Sadesa team-ku varradhai pathi savaal vittaaru. adhu unmai aayiduchu pola

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Indha thadavai replacement. Accept panna mudiyaadhu

Seriously, if I see him playing in the XI, enna nadakkumnu enakke theriyaadhu

Btw, Ashes time-la neenga Eng-kku support pannadhaa gnabagam

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 2nd September 2011 11:00 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Btw, Ashes time-la neenga Eng-kku support pannadhaa gnabagam

Australia/Ponting thokkanum-nu oru idhu-vula pannitten

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edhukkum idhaiyum oru thadavai paathudunga

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From: Puliyan_Biryani on 2nd September 2011 11:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Is it. sammandhappattavanga yaarunnu sollunga, udanE vanmaiyA kaNdikkaREn.

Good Night. VV vadai poche prelude: aal yaarunnu mattum sollu avanai nasukku nasukkunnu nasukki thookki erinjarren.

Originally Posted by P_R

kEpmArithanathu-la varum.

. seekkirame rowdy-thanathukku promotion swagaaya namaha.

Originally Posted by P_R

I did not feel offended by the news about the vaseline check by Broad. I did find it cheeky, exactly.

idhaiye namma Sreesanthu paya pannirundha enna aayirukkum-nu annan Plum ippodhu velakkuvaar (summa irundhavanai sorinju vittu indha Englandhu sandaila erakki vittadhukku parisu).

pazhaiya pages padichadhula Strauss over-rate kammiya irukku-nu Plum sollirukkaapla. Whenever I followed the series, I found England's over rate to be exemplary (almost like setting the bar for others to follow). Even while bowling on a morning session with 3 fast bowlers they managed 30 overs

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From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 11:36 AM [Full View]

Hussain calls Indian fielders as 'Donkeys'

From: kid-glove on 3rd September 2011 02:13 PM [Full View]

I do believe that India have few…3 or 4 very good fielders

I'm more offended by this. Ha ha. Our fielding had been appalling through out.

From: sankara1970 on 3rd September 2011 02:30 PM [Full View]

ithu thevaiya-ippavavathu tour call off panna vendiyathane-

T20 yum kai vittachu-

Pandavargal- Dharmar thalamaiyil soothadi thotrathu ninaivukku varukirathu-Dhoni solran-enna anupi vachuruvangannu nambi emanthu poiten-oru chandukkulla vachu-moonu mani neram adichanga-

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 03:09 PM [Full View]

it is a challenge to bowl bouncers at Parthiv.

From: raghavendran on 3rd September 2011 03:29 PM [Full View]

good start..Rahane looks impressive...tries to pull everything

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

Ajankya pass aiytaen, Bumble calls him right handed Ganguly

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 03:51 PM [Full View]

Rahane departs for 40.

From: ajithfederer on 3rd September 2011 04:04 PM [Full View]

Broad to Dravid, OUT, 132.8 kph, Big appeal for caught behind and England review as it's given not out by Doctrove. Nothing on Hotspot by the looks of things. Broad was convinced and signalled for the DRS himself. There has been plenty of DRS controversy in recent times. Don't think they can overturn this. No clear evidence, but they have done! He's been given. I can't work that out. Oh boy, this could rumble on

R Dravid c †Kieswetter b Broad 2 (6b 0x4 0x6) SR: 33.33

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 04:05 PM [Full View]

If hotspot cannot spot nicks, why do they even employ its services?

From: ajithfederer on 3rd September 2011 04:11 PM [Full View]

Just a heads up folks, I won't be able to go through all your comments on the Dravid wicket. Snicko has just suggested there was an edge.

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 04:38 PM [Full View]

af, but the snicko is not at all considered for the reviews... third umpire has to take his decisions based on either hotspot... otherwise he cant negate a decision given by the onfield umpire...

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

Yuvi/Raina need a session with Parthiv on playing hook/pull.

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 04:42 PM [Full View]

SS, 3rd umpire can go by stump mic to overturn the on-field umpire.

From: ajithfederer on 3rd September 2011 04:43 PM [Full View]

I know. That was an update from cricinfo.

Originally Posted by SoftSword

af, but the snicko is not at all considered for the reviews... third umpire has to take his decisions based on either hotspot... otherwise he cant negate a decision given by the onfield umpire...

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 04:46 PM [Full View]

This is P patel's highest score in all forms of cricket.

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 05:02 PM [Full View]

seriously... parthiv plays pull really well.

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 05:07 PM [Full View]

i hav seen him hitting thru the offside fields well in t20s and other matches.... this is the first time i am seeing him playing thru the leg side pretty fluently and picking the empty fields very precisely.

From: Plum on 3rd September 2011 05:15 PM [Full View]

Idhe matchla England playerukku Dravid situation vandhaa nallaa irukkum. Surely they'll not overturn onfield decision in that case.

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 05:25 PM [Full View]

well played pawn patel...

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 05:31 PM [Full View]

Rohit Sharma injured. Now who wud peep into the team for the next match?

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 05:41 PM [Full View]

with Rohit/Sach injury there is a good chance for Mukund making his odi debut. only batsman with active UK visa.

From: ajaybaskar on 3rd September 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

Ravindra Jadeja is licking his lips,,

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 05:44 PM [Full View]

^Jadeja is still to get his visa

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 05:58 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Rohit Sharma injured. Now who wud peep into the team for the next match?

me.........

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 05:59 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

with Rohit/Sach injury there is a good chance for Mukund making his odi debut. only batsman with active UK visa.

halo... engala ellaam paatthaa manusanaa therilayaa?

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 06:04 PM [Full View]

Dhoni test match mudinju palla nallu aavuthu

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 06:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

halo... engala ellaam paatthaa manusanaa therilayaa?

opening batsman?

From: SoftSword on 3rd September 2011 06:08 PM [Full View]

engalaala mudiyum bhaskar!!
unga influence use panni orae oru chance vaangi kudutthu paarunga... hub pera kaappatthuvom...

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

Weed would have hit 3 sixes by now.

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 06:40 PM [Full View]

DRS=Dravid Removal System. courtesy twitter

From: P_R on 3rd September 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

R Dravid c †Kieswetter b Broad 2 8 6 0 0 33.33
17.4 132.8 kph, Big appeal for caught behind and England review as it's given not out by Doctrove. Nothing on Hotspot by the looks of things. Broad was convinced and signalled for the DRS himself. There has been plenty of DRS controversy in recent times. Don't think they can overturn this. No clear evidence, but they have done! He's been given. I can't work that out. Oh boy, this could rumble on 87/2

From: P_R on 3rd September 2011 10:07 PM [Full View]

Match cancel

Flau, cricketing gods-la varuNa bagavaanum uNdA?

From: Plum on 3rd September 2011 11:03 PM [Full View]

edhukku thalaiya soRiyRInga? Per DRS, you need overwhelming evidence to overturn on-field decision. There wasn't. So, Not Out should have been given. Same happened in the Test Series for Dravid. All that remains is an England batsman to be given not out in the same scenario. The brazen Anglo Saxons and their supporters and bought coolies(a la Steve Bucknor) will not have an iota of vekkam mAnam in doing that and then justifying it as a difference betwen Tweedledum and Tweedledee
England-la Varuna bhagava pEru enna?

From: wizzy on 3rd September 2011 11:28 PM [Full View]

India has avoided whitewash

with jadoo's visa delay India might be forced to play 6 bats for the next odi. Bhogle/Shastrival seemed more worried injuries affecting chumps league. Wasim still holds a grudge against India..wants Pathani to be sent as a replacement for Rohit.

From: ajithfederer on 4th September 2011 08:02 AM [Full View]

England v India, 1st ODI, Chester-le-Street
Dhoni questions DRS handling

ESPNcricinfo staff

September 3, 2011

Stuart Broad appeals for Rahul Dravid's wicket, England v India, 1st ODI, Chester-le-Street, September 3, 2011

Rahul Dravid was given out caught behind off Stuart Broad © PA Photos

Players/Officials: Stuart Broad | MS Dhoni | Rahul Dravid
Matches: England v India at Chester-le-Street
Series/Tournaments: India tour of England
Teams: India

India's captain, MS Dhoni, has once again voiced his displeasure at the handling of the Decision Review System, after Rahul Dravid fell victim to his third controversial dismissal of the summer.

Dravid, who was playing in his first ODI for two years, made 2 from six balls but had initially been given not out by umpire Billy Doctrove, after Stuart Broad and Craig Kieswetter appealed in unison for a faint edge to the keeper.

Broad was so sure of the edge he immediately signalled for a review before consulting his captain, Alastair Cook. However, the evidence reviewed by Marais Erasmus, the third umpire, appeared inconclusive. Neither of the two Hot Spot cameras picked up any edge, and there was no clear deviation on the slow-motion replay.

However, after a brief consultation with Erasmus, Doctrove decided to reverse his decision, to the clear surprise of Dravid. A few minutes later, Snickometer suggested that there had been some noise as ball passed bat, although under the current provisions of the DRS, that evidence is not meant to be taken into account.

Dhoni has expressed his reservations about the DRS in the past, not least during the last ODI between England and India at Bangalore in the World Cup, when Ian Bell was reprieved by Billy Bowden after advancing more than 2.5 metres down the wicket during a referred lbw appeal. On this occasion, however, he seemed genuinely baffled about the inner workings of the system.

"I still exactly don't know how he was given out," said Dhoni. "Whether they used Snickometer, whether Snickometer is allowed to be used, whether the audio technician gave him out, whether the third umpire gave him out. So it is quite complex. There is affair amount of questions when it comes to the DRS and if there is still some doubt, why shouldn't go to the batsman."

As for Dravid, his latest extraction followed two eyebrow-raising dismissals in the final two Tests at Edgbaston, where he was caught behind off his shoe lace, and at The Oval, where he was given out caught at bat-pad off Graeme Swann despite a lack of clear evidence. On that occasion, he defused the subsequent row by admitting he had got a thin inside-edge, but this time, he was not so conciliatory.

"He said he had not edged it," Dhoni said. "There was no mark when it comes to Hot Spot. There was no visual deflection as such. And the umpire had given not out. I thought the benefit of doubt goes to the batsman. That is a big thing."

© ESPN EMEA Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...ry/531148.html

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 08:53 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

edhukku thalaiya soRiyRInga? Per DRS, you need overwhelming evidence to overturn on-field decision. There wasn't. So, Not Out should have been given.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Plum

Same happened in the Test Series for Dravid.

Second innings of the last test wonly. Anything else. There seemed no evidence that he was out and yet the 3rd umpire (who was it?) decided against him. I am not even sure he explained what is it he saw, when it seemed clear to anyone watching what happened.

First innings it was Dravid's mistake not to appeal. Wonder who he was saving the reviews for - Dhoni, Raina perhaps. I thought he was out as even on TV you heard the 'nick'. It's only on replay that we saw there was no nick/deflection when it passed the bat and it came from Drvaid hitting his shoelace. If he had appealed I think he'd've been given not out.

Originally Posted by Plum

All that remains is an England batsman to be given not out in the same scenario.

udanE racisaumA?

What if it does happen to an English batsman - Ravi Bopara!

Originally Posted by Plum

The brazen Anglo Saxons and their supporters and bought coolies(a la Steve Bucknor) will not have an iota of vekkam mAnam in doing that and then justifying it as a difference betwen Tweedledum and Tweedledee

Bucknor - bought-A?....very good.

Daryl Harper seat-ai kizhichchum indha Erasmus-ku budhdhi varalai paarunga.

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 09:02 AM [Full View]

Erasmus seat kizhiyaadhu. Appo?

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 09:05 AM [Full View]

Daryl Harper seat thiruppi thaikkappadaadhu. appO?
Darrel Hair pOnadhu pOnadhu dhaan. appO?

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 09:10 AM [Full View]

Erasmus was one of the more accurate umpires in the World Cup. It is only natural to wonder why even someone like him made an odd decisions - at the least it would be good if the 3rd umpires explain why they decided so in contentious decisions of this sort. Else, it is only going to strengthen the case agaist the use of technology - either in the current DRS framework (which I find problematic) or any other significantly changed regime.

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 09:16 AM [Full View]

Anyway I didn't see the replays so can't quite comment.

BBC Test Match Special's Simon Mann
"I could hear third umpire Marais Erasmus clearly communicating to Billy Doctrove that there was a sound and he could see a deflection on slow motion replay."

Sound allowed without snicko is it?
And was the defl visible? After all we TV viewers get the same visual aids that the 3rd umpire does. He doesn't get anything additional, does he?

BBC Test Match Special's Mark Butcher
"I'm afraid hot spot is not something you can completely rely on. It's a bad piece of kit for those fine nicks. Dravid's body language told me he was out because the millisecond the ball passed the bat he jerked his head to see behind."

Indha bawdy laanguvEj based analysis is nonsense. In ANY field.
indha reasoning-ai ellArum sollittu irukkAnga.If I didn't nick it will I never ever follow it? At the least, if it is not collected there is a bye opportunity.

From: MADDY on 4th September 2011 09:52 AM [Full View]

"I could hear third umpire Marais Erasmus clearly communicating to Billy Doctrove that there was a sound and he could see a deflection on slow motion replay."

erumba kadichha sound vandhudha illa yaanai nenju-la midhichha sound vandhudhaa? dravid, verum bat-a munnadi kondu vandhaaru, yaaro pinnadi tupping kuduthaanga.......

the day, westindies local 3rd umpire used another ball to review Dhoni's decision - i lost all faith in DRS...........watever be its merits, DRS has foll. flaws:

1. it can be misused - is there a way to prevent local umpires misusing it?
2. it can be grossly misused against India - so far no evidence that any umpire has been neutral for India - even the much acclaimed simon Taufel has given SBW to Sachin........

so, will going back to old umpiring style help India?? no, but atleast it will be cheaper than using hawk-hai and snickers.......

Simon taufel has raised doubts abt hawk-hai in SL, but cricinfo hawk-hai supporters are saying its due to bad cameras used in SL and India (dei idhukkaga PC.Sriram camer-ava vekka mudiyum)..........infact, if i were BCCI, i would impose crippling penalties on hawk eye and snickometer companies through international courts and flush them out of system........

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 11:03 AM [Full View]

Adhe adhe Maddy.

Daryl harper thirumba vara mAttArAm. CondolencAm. Do you know your beloved English Cricketers and Media kizhichufied him when his bloopers affected them? Adhellaam theriyaadhu. Do you know they didn't mourn his loss despite the opportunity to bad mouth BCCI?

Adhellaam theriyaadhu. Big bad BCCI-nu sollaNum avLO dhaan.
Bucknor had a history of dleiberate bias against india. Icc nyaayamaa irundhirundhaa he'd have gone long before. When the system is not fair, bcci had to go out of the way to restore dharmam.

Umpiring is not just about accuracy - you have to gain players' respect. Hair failed to with his anti-subcon agenda. Like Chris Broad - remembde bhagwan ke liye hcod do excuse invented by him for Ricky? For all that, he survived 15 years before BcCI applied the boots. That shows who has more power in the icc umpiring world - and that is not bcci who have to let sub continental players suffer for years before they gracelessly apply the boots. And then cop abuse while the other side biased umpires don't ever get abuse and become martyrs instead.

Bucknor should have gone the day he mimicked Dravid picking the seam thereby - on the field - undermining a respected player for an unproven allegation. Do you berate the icc for not removing him then?

Establishment bias ellai meerum bodhu, what do the sufferers do? Especially when they have the power to change it. Justice was done. Don't try to pick on the reaction alone and ignore the provocations which could not be prevented by straight means given icc and anglo saxon duplicity.

You don't understand icc politics at all. You have no knowledge of the history. Your views are blinkered. I have seen their behaviour and observed it closely for decades. You merely read reports and then come and claim I didn't know the backstory now that you are showing it en kangal thirandhana.

Down with icc. Down with EcB. If this conmtinues, down with Cricket. Let Cricket die rather than continuing as a anglo saxon fiefdom

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 11:07 AM [Full View]

Actually, ninga paNNi irukkara aniyaayathukku, even if there is unfair injustice against England for another 50 years, moodikittu irukkanum. Otoh, you still get away with misdemeanours. What right does an England supporter have to complain about BCCI without berating his team and "his country" and "his board" first?

From: wizzy on 4th September 2011 11:49 AM [Full View]

^ small world

"Yet, there is a strong feeling they would quite happily do away with the whole system, having been the one board opposed to its implementation in the first place. "Until the technology is applied correctly we are better off with our oldest method," said Giles Clarke, the ECB chairman. "If the umpire is as deaf as a post and as blind as a bat at least it's the same for both sides."

Such is the ECB's anger that Clarke may try and convince the two touring teams that England face in the summer - Bangladesh and Pakistan - to shelve the review system. India, even though they voted in favour of it, set a precedent when they didn't use reviews for the recent Test series against Sri Lanka."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/rsaveng0...ry/444455.html

From: wizzy on 4th September 2011 01:13 PM [Full View]

England will win 2015 World Cup - Michael Vaughan

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/14774887.stm

"I'd like to see Ian Bell opening - I think he could be a Tendulkar or a Mark Waugh at the top of the order, manoeuvre the field just through good cricket shots."

Vaughanam has lost it.

From: ajithfederer on 4th September 2011 01:21 PM [Full View]

Appo 2019 la vittu koduthuduvaangala?

.

Originally Posted by wizzy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/14774887.stm

"I'd like to see Ian Bell opening - I think he could be a Tendulkar or a Mark Waugh at the top of the order, manoeuvre the field just through good cricket shots."

Vaughanam has lost it.

From: wizzy on 4th September 2011 01:33 PM [Full View]

^ sir, eppoa sir varuthu ungaluku entha garuvam..ashes winalaya? Indiava whitewash pannathalaya?

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 4th September 2011 03:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/14774887.stm

"I'd like to see Ian Bell opening - I think he could be a Tendulkar or a Mark Waugh at the top of the order, manoeuvre the field just through good cricket shots."

Vaughanam has lost it.

Haha semma comedy.....yaara yaar kooda compare pannanumra vevasthaye illa....mark waugh yavvum sachinyum sethathe thappu......

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 04:34 PM [Full View]

Bell comparison with Sachin because Cook has already gone past Sachin. Hence, he is Bradman - since Bradman is indisputaly above Sachin in their eyes.

Cook is Bradman
Strauss is Jardine/Brearley/Greenidge all put together
Bell is Sachin plus M Waugh
Trott is S Waugh plus Kallis(bat) plus Ponting
Pietersen is Richards, Vivian
Morgan is Bevan(ODI) plus Martyn plus Sehwag
Bresnan is Flintoff plus Ambrose(bowling)
Anderson is Marshall plus Steyn plus Zaheer
Prior is > Gilchrist plus Knott plus Ames
Tremlett is Garner plus Holding
Swann is well, Swann. They don't comparte because they think he is unique. Which possibly points to a genuine great in this case.

And Last But Not The Least, My Favourite:
Chris Broad - Kallis plus Flintoff plus Holding plus Botham
Oh sorry I am under-valuing him
Broad EQUAL TO Garfield Sobers!!!!

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

MADDY, more frames per second greater accuracy.
Inputs not consistent everywhere, so it impacts the output, messes with the reliability of HawkEye. idhai sollakkoodaadhA?

I don't like players questioning umpire's decision. And this two reviews per side.
A field umpire should be free to reach out to the third for ANY decision which he is not sure of and the 3rd umpire can use any technology he wants - but it should not be incumbent upon him to use it, he should finally make a human decision taking into account all he wants.

Negatives: howlers will persist and amplified on the big ground tv.
So perhaps we can also add in the case of 3rd umpire intervene without being requested.
But player questioning umpire during the match should just be out. Rankles me.

Anyway, all these apart, these contentious 3rd ump decisions need explanation.

From: wizzy on 4th September 2011 07:14 PM [Full View]

In the test series KP was given out by the on-field umpire of the bowling of Dhoni and the on-field decision was subsequently changed by the third umpire on the evidence of no visible edge shown by the hotspot. Even though the right decision seem to be made the Indian team have the right to be dismayed if a third umpire changes the on-field decision of not-out when the same Hotspot showed no visible edge, ICC should bring an end to this ambiguity on third umpires overturning decisions based on hot-spot.

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 08:13 PM [Full View]

And I did predict that the Third Umpire will always rule marginal decisions in favour of England. This UDRS is an extral layer of protection for Anglo Saxon nations - any howler by On Field umpires in favour of India will be reversed.
(Ofcourse, some people will argue that On field umpires did rule in favour of India so no bias but the point is they can do that by mistake and that is why we need UDRS)

From: wizzy on 4th September 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

^also shouldn't any benefit of doubt go in batsman's favor? in this case Dravid's? Maximus Errorsmus

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 10:05 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Adhe adhe Maddy.
Daryl harper thirumba vara mAttArAm. CondolencAm. Do you know your beloved English Cricketers and Media kizhichufied him when his bloopers affected them? Adhellaam theriyaadhu.

Why would I care about that?
You attempted to say that 3rd umpiring decisions went in favour of poor old victimized BCCI team. I found it funny that it is the very team that had its way in unceremoniously having an umpire sacked.

Originally Posted by Plum

Do you know they didn't mourn his loss despite the opportunity to bad mouth BCCI?

Once again, why would I care about Eng cricket media etc.

Originally Posted by Plum

Adhellaam theriyaadhu. Big bad BCCI-nu sollaNum avLO dhaan.

I said that ONLY in response to your attempt to portray BCCI's Indian team as a poor mousy victim.
Dhoni maadhiri Paanding "you know Daryl...."-nu ominous warning kuduthirundhA, neenga kaNdukkaama vitturuppeengaLA?

Originally Posted by Plum

Bucknor had a history of dleiberate bias against india.

He was not the umpire he used to be. Made many wrong decisions and disproportionately against India. That's about all I can say.
But even if he were 'biased' and hated India etc - to call him 'bought' by Godknowswhom is a stretch.

Originally Posted by Plum

Umpiring is not just about accuracy - you have to gain players' respect.

Yes. Hair was old school Lagaan umpire: "I don't plan discuss this any further sir, I suggest we proceed with the game". I can see people having a problem with that.
But even in that case, a summary sacking is disproportionate.

Originally Posted by Plum

Hair failed to with his anti-subcon agenda.

mudivE paNNitteenga. appuRam enna solla mudiyin? Calling Pak at Oval and calling Murali before he was institutionally straitjacketed.

For these sins against the powerless, meek, oppressed victims, he was honorably discharged.

Tony Greig could not bring himself to condemn the BCCI having Harper sacked. He was pussyfooting around pannedungaalamA Eng-Aus kOl Ochchittu, oppress paNNadhu uNmai.....sari, adhai edhukku ippo sollurE?

Originally Posted by Plum

Bucknor should have gone the day he mimicked Dravid picking the seam thereby - on the field - undermining a respected player for an unproven allegation. Do you berate the icc for not removing him then?

No. Therefore, Dhoni ' Darylu..unakku thEdhi kuRichaachu-nu' solradhu nyAyam, dharmam.

Originally Posted by Plum

You don't understand icc politics at all.

I don't believe it is bunch of racist thugs who are poRuming at brown man's rise and trying their best to do him in at every turn.

Originally Posted by Plum

You have no knowledge of the history.

Agree. Quite recently I heard about Eng coming with a rule in an earlier Indian tour, outlawing setting a fully one-sided field (which was India's strategy with the spin quartet). sariyA puriyalai, someone can elaborate. Now that for me is a clear, unequivocal example of using power to twist the game in favour of a team.

Originally Posted by Plum

Your views are blinkered. I have seen their behaviour and observed it closely for decades. You merely read reports and then come and claim I didn't know the backstory now that you are showing it en kangal thirandhana.

History ellAm theriyAdhu saar. But I have been observing this match referees 'going light on Eng, Aus'. adhai dhaan sonnEn.

But I find it quite curious to call cricket today, adhaavadhu today, as having its epicenter anywhere but the subcontinent.

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 10:15 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Otoh, you still get away with misdemeanours. What right does an England supporter have to complain about BCCI without berating his team and "his country" and "his board" first?

ennamO naan England team-aiyE thaththu eduttha maadhiriyin....

You are the one making racisaum allegations. You are the one trying to present it like the poor subcontinent teams are being strangled. I am merely saying that is not the case.

This does NOT in any way whatsoever tantamount to giving a clean chit for behaviour of Eng players. I care two hoots for the England board, establishment, media etc.

If you did care to read, I have been quite critical of Swann being treated lightly, even during the Waeld Cup when he swore at the umpire.

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 10:27 PM [Full View]

Ungalukku nejamaave puriyalaiyaa?

Dhoni merattinaarA?

You have to understand that at the basic level Englang and Australia have protection from umpires and referees. And India have the opposite. This you agreed at a broad level - or atleast it seems like-nu othukitteenga.
So what should Dhoni do? Ninga aniyaayam pandringa but adhu enga thalai ezhuththu othukkaromnA? He just said ninga aniyaayam neraiya pandringa. He didn't threaten anything.
Daryl seidha aniyaangal and aneedhigalnAla avar dismiss seyya pattaar. Those include incompetwnt rulings against England.
Why blame BCCI? ECB would have happily signed a dismissal order for him.

Thirumba thorumba sub continentla epicentrenA? Then why rae Aus and Eng players still enjoying protection? Why do match referees maximise any chance of punishing indian players? Epicenter irundhu enna prayajonam? Idhai thadukka mudiyalaiye?

En? Because anglo saxons have their people at that layer. So, only way for us to stop such aniyaayams is to take action at next level where BCCi dominates. It is just plain old politics. And both sides are misusing power - the difeerence being BCCI uses its power in this aspect to undo an injustice that is a result of misuse of power by Eng/Aus.

But ungalukku BcCI dhaan villain. You don't have the heart to call the other boards.

Modhalla umpires and referees nyaayamaa irundha, avangalai dismiss panna vendiya avasiyame illaiye.

(Ok harper was incompetent rather than biased because even England suffered because of him - but net-net, he should have gone earlier. A high profile series of errors hastened his sacking. Very normal in corporate world, right?)

I agree not all umpires and referees are biasesd but many are - mainly the Broads and vellaikaarans. Obviously, the asians who are umpires and referees are Mahanams and Srinaths who are gendilmen so they aren't corrupt - not because all asians are non corurpt but ones in those positions are harmless samarththus.

This is the reality - if my manager is unfairly targetting me, and my manager's manager is enakku vendiyavar, then I will use that man's power to control my manager - not for unfair targetting of my manager, but to prevent him from unfairly targetting me. I am not being unfair there at all.
You should note that BCCi is not blindly dismissing any umpire who is giving one bad decisions against India. It is only when there is a pattern like Bucknor - you admitted the disproportionate calls against India plus the Dravid incident shows he had something against India or Harper - who should have gone for performance long back.

Yes, the procedure is wrong but I am glad ithere is some way to fight anglo saxon araajagam this way atleast.
How can you deny that that arajagam is the root cause of indian players' kumuRal

From: P_R on 4th September 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

You have to understand that at the basic level Englang and Australia have protection from umpires and referees. And India have the opposite. This you agreed at a broad level - or atleast it seems like-nu othukitteenga.

Wait referees are lighter on Eng-Aus and even SA (Steyn got away with spitting on Suleiman Benn) (Commentator when the spitting happened: that was unnecessary

adhu engaLukkum theriyin)

Originally Posted by Plum

Daryl seidha aniyaangal and aneedhigalnAla avar dismiss seyya pattaar.

His accuracy was among the highest around Plum. There was even a stat that his accuracy in India matches was even higher. You don't fire someone for having a couple of bad days.

Originally Posted by Plum

he should have gone earlier. A high profile series of errors hastened his sacking. Very normal in corporate world, right?)

I don't think it was that bad at all. It was a couple of bad decisions against INDIA that did him him in 'ngrEn.

And Dhoni has no business saying it that way to the umpire on the field (you can accuse me of taking Harper's words against Dhoni's here - after noone can say whether such a conversation happened at all). It tops the worst thing that had happened to an umpire on a cricket field this year - Ponting screaming at Aleem Dar.

Originally Posted by Plum

But ungalukku BcCI dhaan villain. You don't have the heart to call the other boards.

No. Board means paaltics means crooks. I repeat I am bringing in BCCI only because you are trying to pose the other boards as out on a racist agenda to suppress the brown man. Otherwise I am least interested in boards. But if you are going to invoke it and deny, justify, gloss-over the BCCIs ways then the least I am compelled to bring it up to register my disagreement.

Now you have clubbed Harper with Bucknor. Has Harper been observed to have a prolonged bias against India??

Subcontinent is the epcicentre. WC, WC wins, IPL, sEmbians leak.

Referees need to pull up Eng,Aus as harshly as they pull up others - is my only takeaway thus far.
indha oru point-Ai pEnai perumaaL aakkina kadhaiyA arAjagam-nu solradhellAm I am not with you on all that. Atleast not yet.

England-ku pudikkAdha nalla umpire yAraiyAvadhu, indha maadhiri unceremoniousA sack paNrAingaLAnnu pArppOm.

From: Plum on 4th September 2011 11:40 PM [Full View]

Ha ha I told you I am a bit longer in the tooth in this issue.
1970s Vaseline incident - the indian umpore who pulled up Lever never officiated again.
I am saying England has a hand in Harper's sacking - they were not happy wiyh him either. Why blame BCCI alone?
Don't mix bcci and players
Bcci - does araajagam but is not smart or sophisticvated like ecb or acb to do it nasookka
Players - suffer from anglo saxon referees' araajagam. Some like harby do araajagam themselves and benefit from bcci's power but for one harby you have ten pontings. And recently, when indian players suffer a lot from an umpire, they complain. They don't demand a sacking, note. And in bucknor's case, it was merely protest against harassment. Harper - don't blame india alone. England also involved. Proof? I have as much proof as you have for dhoni/bcci conspiring to get harper sacked. I am not combining the two cases at all.
Hair - it is quite a coincidence that all his victims are sub-con. You can give him the benefit of doubt. But the powers that be didn't. Marginal call. You can disagree but cannot attribute reverse racism charges applying the same principle.

Why is Broad still there? Father, I mean. He is blatantly pro-aussie and anti-sub-con. Do you realise that unless bcci, ecb, acb and sacb are unanimous, you can't sack him? That harper, buckie and hair went because none of the 4 supported him? That is, acb gave up on hair as more trouble than utility.

So, you have to understand that broad will not go even if bcci and dhoni are against him. Because ecb backs him. That is why he is still there. Else, harby's Godfathers in bcci would have got him sacked long ago - because broad will report harby's doosra as throw and that is why harby leaves his doosra at home during broad officiated series.

So blame all the boards for sacking of hair etc not just bcci.
Bcci cvant implement everything they want. Drs is an example of ecb having its way,albeit they found a compromise.
Blindly blaming bcci alone - for even sackings that are apparently to india's benefit - is as ignorant as "anna is india"

As regards anglo saxon bias, it can only show up in punishments, pitch penalties and we saw how those are skewed against sub-con. You agreed on those points.

I'll agree that not every wrong umpirinf decision against india is a conspiracy - though I rabble rouse on that point for my own fun - but that doesn't mean there isn't institurional bias in icc against sub-con.

Don't hang on to my rabble rousing points. That's for a different constituency. Think about the larger points

From: ajithfederer on 5th September 2011 04:51 AM [Full View]

BCCI: We need some answers from ICC
By: Sai Mohan Date: 2011-09-04 Place: Mumbai

BCCI Chief Administrative Officer Prof Ratnakar Shetty said the Board's stance all along was proved right: "This is what we have been saying all along.

Even without UDRS, the three on-field umpires were getting 96 per cent decisions right. But with DRS, that percentage hasn't improved. How has DRS helped? Even in the Australia-Sri Lanka Test, DRS has made blunders. "What we (BCCI) want to know is what is ICC doing about goof-ups of umpires, third umpires? Are they being pulled up? It is important for ICC to answer these questions. Otherwise this will only continue. We feel the umpire must be given power instead of players reviewing decisions.

"As of now, ICC wants us to use DRS in the home series (against England and West Indies). However, Dravid's shocking decisions on the England tour have only (reiterated) that DRS is not full-proof and need to be looked at again," Shetty told SUNDAY MiD DAY.

From: ajithfederer on 5th September 2011 05:09 AM [Full View]

Watching ajinkya rahane's batting in 1st odi i-lites. batting la oru fluidity viscosity ellam nalla irukku.

From: raghavendran on 5th September 2011 08:33 AM [Full View]

yes..he pulls well..even in the t-20 gaem he pulled well..looks like a good prospect..and ippo R.Sharma outa?..yaro suniyam vechitanga...R.Jadeja to the rescue

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 08:52 AM [Full View]

Yaaru soonyam vechuruppaanga? Part time off spinner who can bat? Darby?

From: Bala (Karthik) on 5th September 2011 08:58 AM [Full View]

Enna ezhavu da idhu. Karumaandhram pudicha series

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 08:59 AM [Full View]

Englandukku pudikkadha nalla umpireai sack pandradhu - idhu dhaan unga kitta irukkara ketta pazhakkam. Exact replica venumgaringa. You are not seeing the root cause which is an anglo saxon influence at match referee-umpire level.
1. Bucknors who have some axe to grind with India
2. Broads who are blatantly anti-Asian and pro-saxon
3. Harpers who make high profile errors against everyone - and earn the wrath of everyone
4. Srinaths who are harmless status quoists who will not pull up errant Saxons as strongly as Broad pulls up errant or even relatively innocent Asians
5. Taufels and Dars - whom nobody questions for their integrity. You have to earn that, Mr Hair. It is not your entitlement.

First understand this. For an exact parallel, we need india kaipaavais manning Match referee positions first. And commit a series of aniyaayams against England where they feel powerless against him. Only then will this behaviour of calling for his head will come. Unga teamukku dhaan first level protection irukke - why would they ever feel sieged or victimised in the first place?

Idhai purinjikkama(alladhu purinjukkadha maadhiri) exact parallel kekka vendiyadu.
And you chose parts of my posts to respond to. Mukkiyamana question ellaam choicela vuttutting.
You still don't understand the icc political scene.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 09:02 AM [Full View]

Put it in a simple way:
Make me the match referee. I will do to English players what Broad does to Asians. Let's see if they don't sack me after just one test where I show them water.

Srinath ellaam asian referee-yA vechukittu, naangallaam avarai sack pandradhillayena vendiyadhu. Nallaa irukke kadhai

From: littlemaster1982 on 5th September 2011 09:47 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Enna ezhavu da idhu. Karumaandhram pudicha series

Exactly my sentiments. This series has been a disaster of epic proportions

From: 19thmay on 5th September 2011 12:35 PM [Full View]

Vidunga 3-4 varushathuku oru thadava recession varadhillaya? 7 1/2 varushathuku sani pidikiradhillaya adhu maadhri thaan idhuvum.

From: PARAMASHIVAN on 5th September 2011 01:46 PM [Full View]

Heavy rain is forcasted across England tomorrow, and the match officials have scheduled saturday's washout game to be played on Tuesday! ivanga weather forcast ellam paakama summa kanna moodikitu thaan schedule pannuvangalO

From: Bala (Karthik) on 5th September 2011 01:53 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Heavy rain is forcasted across England tomorrow, and the match officials have scheduled saturday's washout game to be played on Tuesday! ivanga weather forcast ellam paakama summa kanna moodikitu thaan schedule pannuvangalO

Mazhaikku arive illa, idhellam test match appo peya vendiyadhu dhaane!

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 03:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Mazhaikku arive illa, idhellam test match appo peya vendiyadhu dhaane!

hmmm... WC final 2003'laye mazhai maela enakku irundha nambikkai poiduchu... now i am a rainaethist.

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 04:07 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Heavy rain is forcasted across England tomorrow, and the match officials have scheduled saturday's washout game to be played on Tuesday! ivanga weather forcast ellam paakama summa kanna moodikitu thaan schedule pannuvangalO

enna olarureenga?
is the match rescheduled?
oru velai naan dhaan olagam theriyaama irukkaenaa?

From: wizzy on 5th September 2011 04:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

enna olarureenga?
is the match rescheduled?
oru velai naan dhaan olagam theriyaama irukkaenaa?

edhu enna ICC worldcup knockout matcha..reschedule panna?

From: P_R on 5th September 2011 04:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I am saying England has a hand in Harper's sacking - they were not happy wiyh him either. Why blame BCCI alone?

I think Harper was unceremoniously slacked for excesses against the Indian team because BCCI wanted him out.
Your contention is England did not resist him due to pazhaiya pagai. May be.
The reason I brought up this example was to resist the attempt to portray BCCI as a mousy victim.

Originally Posted by Plum

Proof? I have as much proof as you have for dhoni/bcci conspiring to get harper sacked.

Noted.
Harper was moping about ICC not backing him enough.
It is naive - pAr rA! - to say BCCI is just one of the several independent votaries in this case as in many other decisions of the ICC.
What next BCCI was after a lone votary in the decisions to screw over ICL players, having a sacrosanct IPL window and what not.

Originally Posted by Plum

Marginal call. You can disagree but cannot attribute reverse racism charges applying the same principle.

As long as you don't allege racism, I won't bother with alleging reverse-racism.

Originally Posted by Plum

Why is Broad still there? Father, I mean. He is blatantly pro-aussie and anti-sub-con. Do you realise that unless bcci, ecb, acb and sacb are unanimous, you can't sack him?

prAdhu kudunga. Avinga defeat paNNattum, then we can talk. "If brought up, it will be defeated because of composition, racisaum-nu sonnA, grievance cell use paNNAma LokPal vENumnu katharavanga maadhiri.

Originally Posted by Plum

because broad will report harby's doosra as throw and that is why harby leaves his doosra at home during broad officiated series.

Oh! ippadi ellAm vERa irukkA? yEdhO nalladhu nadandhA sari.

Originally Posted by Plum

As regards anglo saxon bias, it can only show up in punishments, pitch penalties and we saw how those are skewed against sub-con. You agreed on those points.

Hallov. I only agreed that match refs. should punish Eng, Aus, SA too more. Hope you will not try to interpret it as an agreement that there is a racially motivated, systematic, scheme to oppress subcontinent cricket. I disagree.

Originally Posted by Plum

I'll agree that not every wrong umpirinf decision against india is a conspiracy - though I rabble rouse on that point for my own fun - but that doesn't mean there isn't institurional bias in icc against sub-con.

Your rabble rousing is sometimes indistinguishable from your arguments - perhaps that IS the fun!

Originally Posted by Plum

For an exact parallel, we need india kaipaavais manning Match referee positions first.

Originally Posted by P_R

England-ku pudikkAdha nalla umpire yAraiyAvadhu, indha maadhiri unceremoniousA sack paNrAingaLAnnu pArppOm.

yOv, nalla umpire-nu sonnA Indhiya kaipAvai-ngreerE! You don't need an Indian kaaipaavai for my exampuzh, so rest of your arguments there don't follow.
By this you are alleging Harper was an Aussie kaipaavai, which I unselect rightaway.

We only need someone goofing up in a high profile non-Indian series being summarily sacked.

Originally Posted by Plum

Mukkiyamana question ellaam choicela vuttutting.

yEN Chris Broad dismiss paNNalainnu ennai kEttA, naan enna solluvEn? indha vagaiyarA illaadha vERa enna kELvigaL? prAdhu kudunga. Presumptive-A sellAdhu neengaLE mudivu paNNA eppadi?

From: P_R on 5th September 2011 04:40 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Put it in a simple way:
Make me the match referee. I will do to English players what Broad does to Asians. Let's see if they don't sack me after just one test where I show them water.

ungaLai sack paNNa mudiyumA?
unga logic padi, orE oru vote mattumE uLLa BCCI ungaLukku vAdhAdAdhA?
illai BCCI-ku needhi, nErmai, nyAyam dhaan pudikkumnu ungaLai kaavu kuduththuruvaangaLA?

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 05:10 PM [Full View]

"If brought up, it will be defeated because of composition, racisaum-nu sonnA, grievance cell use paNNAma LokPal vENumnu katharavanga maadhiri.

idhu dhAn prachnai. BCCI - bleddy nincompoops - are not doing this. adhukku dhAN ennai adviserA pOdaNumngaradhu. ivLO periya Indiavula indha chinna chankayathanam solli kodukka kooda AL illaiya BCCI-ku? enna kodumai!

yOv, nalla umpire-nu sonnA Indhiya kaipAvai-ngreerE! You don't need an Indian kaaipaavai for my exampuzh, so rest of your arguments there don't follow.
By this you are alleging Harper was an Aussie kaipaavai, which I unselect rightaway.

By that I mean a nalla umpire, who has 96% overall good decisions but screws up important dcisions against England, say, in the other 4%. Not all decisions are equally fatal. if 96% routine decisions are right, and 4% match-turning decisions are wrong, and some of them deliberately, that's where the rub is.

adhu pOga, if we have more asia-biased match referees, then psychologically Indian players will become like English players and vice-versa. ivangaLukku oru "paramsivan kazhuthu pAmbu" mentality vandhudum. avangaLukku victim mentality vandhudum. Rest will automatically follow.

modhalla, Asian biased match referees thayaar paNNanum. seenivaasa, un Kadhula vizhavE vizhAdhA?

Enakku oru chance koduththA, demonstrate paNNi kAmippEn( I mean the chanakyathanam part of it - assuming I know Cricket rules well). adhellAm oru art-mA. inglis karan and me are very good at it.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 05:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

ungaLai sack paNNa mudiyumA?
unga logic padi, orE oru vote mattumE uLLa BCCI ungaLukku vAdhAdAdhA?
illai BCCI-ku needhi, nErmai, nyAyam dhaan pudikkumnu ungaLai kaavu kuduththuruvaangaLA?

BCCI is especially incapable of defending me just for frenship sake. If they get an ultimatum from ECB to let me go - they'll wrangle an extra ODI match from them in Patiala and let me go. Compromise paNNippAnga. ennamO nAn BCCI dharmathin uraividamnu solRA mAdhiri pEsaRInga.

From: satissh_r on 5th September 2011 06:15 PM [Full View]

Tendulkar ruled out of series

Sachin Tendulkar has been ruled out of the remainder of India's tour of England, and is set to miss Mumbai Indians' Champions League campaign as well, after a visit to a specialist in London confirmed that he will require four weeks' of rest to recover from an inflamed big toe on his right foot.

The injury, which was caused by the aggravation of a former fracture, flared up on the eve of the first ODI at Chester-le-Street, and means that Tendulkar's quest for that elusive 100th international hundred, which has been hanging over him all tour, will not now be resumed until England's tour of India in October, at the earliest.

The BCCI have decided that no replacement will be required at this late stage of the tour, seeing as Manoj Tiwary and Ravindra Jadeja are already linking up with the squad, after Rohit Sharma broke his finger in the Chester-le-Street ODI.

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 06:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Tendulkar ruled out of series

Sachin Tendulkar has been ruled out of the remainder of India's tour of England, and is set to miss Mumbai Indians' Champions League campaign as well, after a visit to a specialist in London confirmed that he will require four weeks' of rest to recover from an inflamed big toe on his right foot.

The injury, which was caused by the aggravation of a former fracture, flared up on the eve of the first ODI at Chester-le-Street, and means that Tendulkar's quest for that elusive 100th international hundred, which has been hanging over him all tour, will not now be resumed until England's tour of India in October, at the earliest.

The BCCI have decided that no replacement will be required at this late stage of the tour, seeing as Manoj Tiwary and Ravindra Jadeja are already linking up with the squad, after Rohit Sharma broke his finger in the Chester-le-Street ODI.

aang... nallaa rest edunga... appo vandhaa podhum.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 06:19 PM [Full View]

Wow! That 100th century is hanging like a sword, isnt it? Damn it! avaru pAttukku nimmadhiyA freeyA veLayAdikittu irundhAr. indha landmark vandhu fate vazhiyA romba paduthudhu. Who cares about the 100th century? Thalaiva, nalam peRRu thirumba vaa. 30s and 40s adichA kooda kadaisiyA oru muRai pArthukkaROm. indha record ellAm Alastair Cook-E eduthukkattum. Record paNNittA mattum avan unnaiya vida periya batsman AyiduvAnA?

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 06:20 PM [Full View]

England kooda ODI series, softie. andhs series vayasukku vandhA enna varAttA enna.

OZ tour irukku end of year - but ipdiyE pOnA adhukku match practice illAma vara vENdi irukkum thalai.

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 06:26 PM [Full View]

fletcher kaduppaagi V guard maatti fieldku vandhuda poraan.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 06:31 PM [Full View]

Flower vevaramAnavan. India koopttium vaRa maRuthuttAn. Fletcher is vidhiyin valiya karangaLil sikki seerazhindha pinju uLLam

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

appo Gary'yum vevaramaa dhaan kalandukittaarnu solringala?

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 07:00 PM [Full View]

I think so. But yArumE ivLO kEvalamA nadakkumnu nenachirukka mAttAngannum nenaikkaREn. I think Gary and Andy might have thought that England/SA is on the upswing and India on the downswing.
Fletcher vootula pozhudhu pOgAma, "machakanniy en malayala devadhai" pArthitturundhurupAr. pOtta pOtti mayilsamy mAdhiri aLLikittu vandhuttAnga.

From: wizzy on 5th September 2011 07:06 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Tendulkar ruled out of series

Sachin Tendulkar has been ruled out of the remainder of India's tour of England, and is set to miss Mumbai Indians' Champions League campaign as well, after a visit to a specialist in London confirmed that he will require four weeks' of rest to recover from an inflamed big toe on his right foot.

The injury, which was caused by the aggravation of a former fracture, flared up on the eve of the first ODI at Chester-le-Street, and means that Tendulkar's quest for that elusive 100th international hundred, which has been hanging over him all tour, will not now be resumed until England's tour of India in October, at the earliest.

The BCCI have decided that no replacement will be required at this late stage of the tour, seeing as Manoj Tiwary and Ravindra Jadeja are already linking up with the squad, after Rohit Sharma broke his finger in the Chester-le-Street ODI.

appo champs leaguela MI kaptaan Weed?

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 07:10 PM [Full View]

Ippil, Sembiam League-lAm Weed-E pArthukattum inimE. That's a good point - thalai will be free of Sembiam league commitments now

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 07:11 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

I think so. But yArumE ivLO kEvalamA nadakkumnu nenachirukka mAttAngannum nenaikkaREn. I think Gary and Andy might have thought that England/SA is on the upswing and India on the downswing.
Fletcher vootula pozhudhu pOgAma, "machakanniy en malayala devadhai" pArthitturundhurupAr. pOtta pOtti mayilsamy mAdhiri aLLikittu vandhuttAnga.

neenga ipdi ellaam extreme'a yosikkiradhaala dhaan PR neenga solra edhayumae yaetthukka maatendraar.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 07:12 PM [Full View]

I think Gary and Andy might have thought that England/SA is on the upswing and India on the downswing.
Fletcher vootula pozhudhu pOgAma, "machakanniy en malayala devadhai" pArthitturundhurupAr. pOtta pOtti mayilsamy mAdhiri aLLikittu vandhuttAnga.

idhula oru statement not extreme at all. adhu nejamAna pointtu
oru statement summA jollykkAga extremeA ezhudhinadhu.

Is it not obvious which is which?

From: wizzy on 5th September 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

Eng planned 'secret' ball to trouble Indians but didn't use

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/en...nt-use/841863/

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 07:15 PM [Full View]

ada pAvingaLA - nemba kevala padutharAnunga.

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 07:16 PM [Full View]

i meant the stmt that gary might hav thought england on upswing and india on downswing, so escape before england tour as extreme. unga logical rhelm'la adhu extreme'a illaama irukkalaam.

From: Plum on 5th September 2011 07:19 PM [Full View]

Actually, softie, idhu nAn sondhamA yOsikkalai. Guardian maNdabathula apdi pEsikittAnga. anda pAttai copy adichu nAn ingE vandhu kottitEn. nInga nakkeeranAttam kodAinju kodAinju parisu illaingaRInga

ungaLai mAdhiri forumukoruthtar...En...nIngaL oruvarE pOdhum..nAdu uruppattA mAdhiri dhAn

From: wizzy on 5th September 2011 07:22 PM [Full View]

Gary wasn't tested overseas..he happened to be at the right place at the right time..he opted to be adviser for the OZ tour of 2008 knowing fully well our record there. Seewhack in full flow completely changes India's fortune in tests. Fletcher is yet to coach the Indian team at full strength. OZ tour will be his litmus test where he had suffered 5-0 whitewash with Eng team before. With the spate of injuries to key players/form of batsman I don't think Gary would have gotten different results had he been our head coach in this tour.

From: SoftSword on 5th September 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

indha naadum naattu makkalum naashamaai pogattum...

From: P_R on 6th September 2011 06:05 PM [Full View]

Flau, usanbhai intree padicheengaLA?

unga raththam kodhikkira maadhiri pala vishayngaL sollirukkaapla.
ODI-layum 5-0 predict paNNirukkaar. Of course, without as much as saying it. Viswanadhaiyyar appidi ellAm solluvaarA

But otherwise a very impressive interview. I liked the points about captaincy in particular.

One of the greatest captains England ever had was Mike Brearley, and he certainly wasn't the best player in that team. You need to have other skills. Sometimes the best players don't understand failure and don't understand fear of failure, and some people that can't do the things that they can do. Sometimes the great cricketers, like Ian Botham and Freddie Flintoff and people like this, don't make as good captains because they are, to a degree, geniuses, a little bit. Ask them to dissect [their game] a little bit, they might not be able to. So I do believe it's a just lot of different skills involved in being a captain to being a player so it doesn't necessarily go hand in hand.

Notes eduththukkittEn

From: P_R on 6th September 2011 06:31 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Nasser Hussain

I was a man for crisis, because it took the fear of failure away

Generally liked all his points about captaincy.
His respect for Ganguly - I have this theory that they have a lot in common - took over at a low, tough as nails, aware they are not the best in the side etc.

His point about the lieutenants, messaging for Gough's benefit, captains for the times etc. all lovely.
Can't wait for the next part.

From: Plum on 6th September 2011 06:39 PM [Full View]

ODI-layum 5-0 predict paNNirukkaar. Of course, without as much as saying it. Viswanadhaiyyar appidi ellAm solluvaarA

idhul raththam kodhikka enna irukku? Currently, Indian team is like Paruthiveeran Priya Mani. pArthu kaNNIr sindhuvadhai thavira namba oNNum paNNa mudiyAdhu.
yArainu kuththam solRadhu?

vERa edhAvadhu Stuart Broad gendilmen, Alastair Cook ANazhagen apdi EdhAvadhu sonnArAnnu sollunga

From: P_R on 6th September 2011 06:51 PM [Full View]

Calling ODI as look ball - hit ball is TooMuchISay.

The 50-over game is simple: see ball, hit ball.

unakku varailngradhukkaaga ippadi ellAm sollalaamA.

But then he follows it up with something much more reasonable :

And historically England have produced good, solid technical batsmen, but you wouldn't say they have produced massive hitters of the ball or people who can be innovative with the bat, or have weird actions with the ball, spin it both ways or reverse-swing it. We've been a little bit too English, if you like, a little bit too orthodox. I think what wins you one-day games is a little bit of the unorthodox, and some individual brilliance. We've always lacked that, and Test match cricket is a little more of a team game.

From: wizzy on 6th September 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

Eng. lack of success at ODIs always puzzled me..even the sides from 2004-2008 only had VB series victory to show their prowess..from whatever I have seen they seem to press the panic button whenever they chase a target at 5+..I don't remember them chasing huge targets without any hiccups which is usually a good measure of a quality odi side. India under Azhar/Sachin had the same issue whilst chasing..you would never bet on them chasing 200+ even on the flattest of the pitches.
India's change in odi fortunes happened under Dravid when they set a record for successful chases courtesy Dhoni/Yuvi partnerships .

Most of the Eng odi successes seem to be on strong bowling performance..now with the odis being played on patta wickets around the world. the odis have reduced into shootout between the batting sides which has never been their strong point. I like this idea of Trott/Cook playing together in odis

long may it continue.

From: wizzy on 6th September 2011 11:44 PM [Full View]

Pa Patel yarupa nie..

From: venkkiram on 7th September 2011 02:11 AM [Full View]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTU...700/136799.jpg

From: ajithfederer on 7th September 2011 07:57 AM [Full View]

Enna ezhavu karumandhiram pudicha tour idhu :

World cup indha varusham jeichoma pathu varusham munnadi jeichomanu doubt aa irukku.

From: P_R on 7th September 2011 08:16 AM [Full View]

That is 50 over format.
Gentle reminder that in 20 overs format and all England is the defending World Champion

From: ajithfederer on 7th September 2011 08:25 AM [Full View]

Now suddenly you give thoughts and remind people about Tonty tonty. I thought you hated that format.

From: raghavendran on 7th September 2011 08:32 AM [Full View]

sappaya adichi mudichitangale...

..pilli suniyams...Rahane and parthiv

..

From: P_R on 7th September 2011 09:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Now suddenly you give thoughts and remind people about Tonty tonty. I thought you hated that format.

summA ungaLai ribbaradhukku general knowledge payan padudhu

Mathapadi "idhellAm oru format" is my koLgai.

From: Plum on 7th September 2011 09:48 AM [Full View]

Read in some tamil tabloid kisu kisu:

Sameebaththil veRRigaramAna pEi padaththil nadiththa "mangaLagaramAna" mangalore nadigai mAndhirigam poojaigaL ellAm seidhu vaithiruppadhAl, avar kooda nerukkamAga iruppavargaL nilai uyarum ena thirai ulagil ippOdhu namba padugiRadhu. Address illAmal irundha pEi pada iyakkunar-nadigar-nadanaiyakkunar dhideerandru iththanai veRRigaL peRRadhu idhaRku sAndrAga kooRa padugiRadhu.

Thalakku kannAlam Agiruchu - indha Gambhir, Bhajji, Yuvi yArAvadhu latchumigaramana rai-al nadigaiya try paNNalAme...
Gambhir, bhajji, yuvi: idhukku munnAdi indha car-ai yAru vechurundhA
Dhoni: iyAm escape

From: wizzy on 7th September 2011 10:46 AM [Full View]

Ashwin needs to cut down on foul mouthing batsman after every dismissal..that too in chaste Hindi..Weed's influence?

Hubbers would have fancied facing this attack of Kumars/Munaf/Ashwin/Kohli/Raina any day of the week.. Thought Dhoni will do the honors of bowling yesterday.

From: littlemaster1982 on 7th September 2011 10:48 AM [Full View]

Why is Vinay Kumar is being persisted with? That guy is not fit for international cricket

From: ajaybaskar on 7th September 2011 11:01 AM [Full View]

Yes.. Bring in Ravindra Jadeja..

//Watched 'I saw the devil". Liked it.

//

From: ajaybaskar on 7th September 2011 11:02 AM [Full View]

Whatever happened to Ayyan Murugan? Injury?

From: 19thmay on 7th September 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Why is Vinay Kumar is being persisted with? That guy is not fit for international cricket

+1 bowler with no variety, Joginder kind of.

In the England pitch look our fast(?) bowlers : P.Kumar, V.Kumar, M.Patel.

Kieswetter, Cook ellam yeri yeri vandhu adikuraanunga...

From: 19thmay on 7th September 2011 06:46 PM [Full View]

Hope Aaron makes his debut in the next match.

From: raghavendran on 7th September 2011 09:08 PM [Full View]

Kieswetter and Cook tennis ball cricket adina madhiri irundhudhu

..namba bowling avolo wastea?..illa Englad batting avolo superiora?..ennapa oru matchavudhu jeipingala matingala?

From: SoftSword on 7th September 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

jeyikka vendiya matchla mazhai vandhuruchu....
indha match almost a t20... cant judge our odi performance based on wat has happened til now..

From: wizzy on 7th September 2011 10:40 PM [Full View]

Playing 7 batsman in a t-20 is a recipe for disaster. Vinay is our new Dodda Ganesh..runs in slow mo and bowls even slower

don't see the merit in playing him if he is not going to swing/seam at his pace..Chavi Bopara bowls at a brisk pace than him. Ashwin is becomin more round arm with this muruku pizhi action and doesn't seem to have the same control over his line/length he enjoyed in IPL..beats me why he changes his action for international matches. Had Ganguly played in this odi series he would be opening the bowling with PK... seems our bowing stocks have reached lowest ebb.

From: 19thmay on 7th September 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

SS - Match paatheengala? Semma mokka bowling. I agree its a flat track but our bowler bowled like school kids, very ordinary. Indha maadhri bowling vachukittu 23 over-la 230 kooda defend panna mudiyaadhu.

From: raghavendran on 8th September 2011 08:07 AM [Full View]

Softy
Indha bowling vechikitu namma 350 adichalum...45 oversla chase panniduvanga...v shud chase here after..batting nalladhan irukku..flat tracks so no problems...
btb with so many injuries CL semma adi vangumnu nenaikiren

From: 19thmay on 8th September 2011 10:31 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

Softy
Indha bowling vechikitu namma 350 adichalum...45 oversla chase panniduvanga...v shud chase here after..batting nalladhan irukku..flat tracks so no problems...
btb with so many injuries CL semma adi vangumnu nenaikiren

adhukku mattum eppdi gun maadhri vandhu nikkaporanunga-nu paarunga.

From: SoftSword on 8th September 2011 03:49 PM [Full View]

thats a good point... but i dono wats inside dhonis mind...
he has always been successful in t20 when he starts with ashwin... and i dono why he did not try that in t20 and t23 here...
also last match, the field setting was very poor and otoh, while dravid was playing, he was finding it difficult to see any gaps to hit boundaries...
avangalum 11 peru dhane velayadraanga...

From: 19thmay on 8th September 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

SS,
Their field settings was not great either, romba ordinary-ya thaan irundhadhu, lot of misfieldings too. Rose bowl is a big ground and none of the Indian batsman able to hit straight. Kohli, Tiwary, Dhoni all got out as they could not clear the boundaries.
Namma pasanga pottu koduthadhu added advantage and they are able hit cleanly.

From: SoftSword on 8th September 2011 05:05 PM [Full View]

i mainly spoke abt how dravid was not able to clear the fielders...
he was trying to hit thru the covers, extra cover, midwicket, he tried some pulls... everything went to a fielder, the max they got was 2 runs with some smart running.

From: raghavendran on 8th September 2011 05:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by 19thmay

adhukku mattum eppdi gun maadhri vandhu nikkaporanunga-nu paarunga.

adhuvum correctudhan....oru odambukkula oru kodi vyadhiya vechikitu IPL velayaandanga...

From: ajithfederer on 9th September 2011 08:26 AM [Full View]

Toe injury appdi ippdinaanga. He is giving tips in natwest cricket club here. Really liked the tip he gave to a lady about top edges while playing square cuts.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSgtstj0y4&feature=related

From: ajithfederer on 9th September 2011 08:28 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ifx49ZaP3w&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

From: ajithfederer on 9th September 2011 08:30 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGiGXiyCg_M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Throwing tips....hmm

From: littlemaster1982 on 9th September 2011 09:33 AM [Full View]

Is it just me or he looks leaner

From: scorpio on 9th September 2011 11:43 AM [Full View]

This is going to be a rebirth of sorts for me - Harbhajan Singh

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...arbhajan-singh

"I am 100% fit and raring to go for all the cricket ahead. I have worked really hard at the NCA. I am looking forward to the Champions League T20, and also the coming home series (against England and West Indies)," the 31 year old said.

"I have never felt this good about my bowling. This is going to be a rebirth of sorts for me. I am going to get my rhythm back. I am honest to myself and know that I have a lot more to contribute for the country. This is a new beginning. I still have four or five years of cricket left in me."

appo MI captain Bhajji thaanaa?

From: satissh_r on 9th September 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

appo MI captain Bhajji thaanaa?

Ithelenna shock.. Confirmeda avane than. Munnadi oru tharave Sachin injureda iruntha pothu kuda ivan thane lead pannan

From: KV on 9th September 2011 02:05 PM [Full View]

'Bildingu strongu, poundason veeku' - says Prasanna on BhajanaikkAran.

“He is delivering from a very chest-on position. Consequently, his length has suffered. He has got his length right only 25 to 30 pert cent of times. If your length is awry, your line is affected as well. The fact that his basics are not strong, he does not pivot or get his body behind his action, is not helping matters either. There is very little follow through.”

PS: the pic in the article resembles Captain Vijayakanth quite a bit, me thinks!

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 02:21 PM [Full View]

ICC should bring in a law that off spinners should bowl only in short-sleeves..this will 'weed' out some offies from the game...Ajmal for all his skills pelts the ball blatantly.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 9th September 2011 03:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by KV

PS: the pic in the article resembles Captain Vijayakanth quite a bit, me thinks!

Agree.......

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 04:58 PM [Full View]

i wish akram and ravi stop telling on wat could be the par score on pitches...
all the predictions by them went wrong...

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 05:06 PM [Full View]

india patting...

sadesan for tiwari and rp for vinay... sadesan 2 wickets and 30 runs confirm.
no aaraamudhan...

From: scorpio on 9th September 2011 05:14 PM [Full View]

Overcast conditions, grassy pitch, apdiyum why no Varun Aaron?

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 05:59 PM [Full View]

moondru wicket izhandhu........ indhiya aniyin uyir.. ooshal.......

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

yet another t-20 match..is India practicing for clt-t20?

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 06:19 PM [Full View]

t20la dhaan 12 overku 30 run adippaangalaa?
i guess its part of the plan to restrict england to score within 200.

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

ellae varaem 20 over adrathu...bedwetter will get this score in the powerplay itself

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by raghavendran

Softy
Indha bowling vechikitu namma 350 adichalum...45 oversla chase panniduvanga...v shud chase here after..batting nalladhan irukku..flat tracks so no problems...
btb with so many injuries CL semma adi vangumnu nenaikiren

auto anuppunga... 10 nimisatthula inga varanum.

From: scorpio on 9th September 2011 06:26 PM [Full View]

Very wrong toss to lose...che

From: ajaybaskar on 9th September 2011 07:09 PM [Full View]

Half the side in the hut..

From: Plum on 9th September 2011 07:40 PM [Full View]

innumA indha ooru ivangaLai nambikittirukku
adhu avanga thalai ezhuththu

- "Die, ODI Cricket, Die. We dont want Sachin playing any more of you."

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 07:42 PM [Full View]

jadeja velayaadradha paatthu silarukku inga poraamai.

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 08:12 PM [Full View]

^pathanuku vada pochu

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 08:36 PM [Full View]

sadesan 50...
lm engirundhaalum maedaikku mukkaadodu varavum...
neenga enga enna senjuttu irundhaalum sari... indha nimisam unga kai unga thalaila dhaan irukkum...

From: kid-glove on 9th September 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

Thoni

Chadeja

Respectable-a lose panna seri.

Indian fans better get used to it.
We are the new West Indies..

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 08:42 PM [Full View]

bloody dhoni... its not over until its over. matthavingalukku mattum sonnaa patthaadhu....

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 08:50 PM [Full View]

Dhoni injured?

From: wizzy on 9th September 2011 09:07 PM [Full View]

Kaptaan getting out the 2nd over of powerplay has worked in India's favor..Ashwin kulla eppadi oru mirugama?

From: SoftSword on 9th September 2011 09:09 PM [Full View]

well played jadeja...
idhae maadhiri oru rendu moonu critical performance kudutthinaa, lm'ku unmela irukka kovam kurayum...

From: littlemaster1982 on 9th September 2011 11:34 PM [Full View]

Ennadhu Jadeja top scorer-a

Adhuvum 58/5-la irundhu

Idhukku kali mutthiduthu-nudhaane arttham

From: Bala (Karthik) on 9th September 2011 11:40 PM [Full View]

Thamizhanin suzhal pandhu veechu abaaram, Sadesan innoru munaiyilirundhu pandhai suzhatti veesugiraan, nalla pOtti, mazhai vandhu keduthu vittadhu

Sadesan adichukkudhutho illa bowling pottu kudutho naama jeikka vendiya avasiyame illa. Adhaan saamikke porukkaama mazhaya anuppiruchu. Thamizhan uzhaippu veena poche...

From: wizzy on 10th September 2011 01:47 AM [Full View]

Akram ripping into Munaf Patel..loving this

From: kid-glove on 10th September 2011 02:06 AM [Full View]

Narrow loss-nu solli collar-a thooki vittukonga ba!

From: raghavendran on 10th September 2011 08:10 AM [Full View]

it was obvious..Munaf...yenda ne ipdi irukke?..ne porandadhilendhe ipdidhana?

....as i said batting parava illa...edho adichitom..enakku Jadeja pudikadhu...run adichi escape agitan..
so 4-0...not bad..

From: Anban on 10th September 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Thamizhanin suzhal pandhu veechu abaaram, Sadesan innoru munaiyilirundhu pandhai suzhatti veesugiraan, nalla pOtti, mazhai vandhu keduthu vittadhu

Sadesan adichukkudhutho illa bowling pottu kudutho naama jeikka vendiya avasiyame illa. Adhaan saamikke porukkaama mazhaya anuppiruchu. Thamizhan uzhaippu veena poche...

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From: satissh_r on 11th September 2011 02:42 PM [Full View]

England win toss and bowl on a supposedly green track. Lot of people on Cricinfo saying we should have played V Aaron and I agree. R P Singh and Munaf have hardly bowled well in this tour so far, if not on a green track where do want him to debut? Feroz Shah Kotla huh

From: littlemaster1982 on 11th September 2011 05:13 PM [Full View]

I'm getting tired of Kohli's slow starts. Every match he takes at least 30-40 balls to get going and if he gets out before that, he ruins the momentum we have.

From: Anban on 11th September 2011 06:38 PM [Full View]

Kohli is useless

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From: raghavendran on 11th September 2011 07:01 PM [Full View]

Raina looks so different in ODIs...romba confidenta velayadran..better than kohli surely..test matchesla adicha..nalla irukkum.

From: Plum on 11th September 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

Remember I started supporting Kohli recently

From: wizzy on 11th September 2011 10:58 PM [Full View]

remembered this quote from Snatch "Yes, London. You know: fish, chips, cup 'o tea, bad food, worse weather, Mary fucking Poppins. LONDON.

From: P_R on 11th September 2011 11:10 PM [Full View]

Unlucky England

From: wizzy on 11th September 2011 11:21 PM [Full View]

Isn't Ganguly being ultra critical on young batters? he too had his fair amount of cross-batted slogs

From: MADDY on 12th September 2011 09:03 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

remembered this quote from Snatch "Yes, London. You know: fish, chips, cup 'o tea, bad food, worse weather, Mary fucking Poppins. LONDON.

//F word kanna pinnaanu thavazhudhu in the section.......anyways, its good that the section has matured a lot, with my absence, i admit

...........//

why cant Dhoni and raina too fake injury and go home to get ready for CL20? its really tough on these 2 blokes

From: Plum on 12th September 2011 10:15 AM [Full View]

Because N Seenu needs to show results in BOTH Sembiam league AND this series. Devilukku vAkkapattA daily summersalt adikkONum...
Dhoni and Raina will probably be allowed to sit out Windies test series. Poor Raina - some batsman will probably gorge in Indian conditions and his England scores will be compared to that batsman's scores in India

From: wizzy on 12th September 2011 10:34 AM [Full View]

@Maddy blame it on the English Weather

Dhoni deserves credit for not throwing in the towel in the odis..he could have asked Parthiv to keep wickets/ throw his wicket away in the pretext of being mentally tired.
The intensity shown by the Indian team after being battered in test matches is

For Dhoni's sake I hope we win the final odi at Cardiff.

From: raajarasigan on 12th September 2011 11:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Isn't Ganguly being ultra critical on young batters? he too had his fair amount of cross-batted slogs

கம்மேண்டடோர்'நு (ala பொண்டாட்டின்னு )வந்துட்டாலே...

நம்ம சாஸ்த்ரிகள் கூட strike rate பத்தி பேசுவாப்ள...

From: 19thmay on 12th September 2011 12:43 PM [Full View]

4 Test matches (~4*5=20 days) rain interruption avvalo illama nachunnu, 4-0-nu mudinjudhu.
4 ODI-layum India upper hands vara nerama paathu mazhai vandhu England-ku favor-a thirupi vidudhu... Sani dancing happily @ England

From: MADDY on 12th September 2011 01:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Devilukku vAkkapattA daily summersalt adikkONum

adhe adhe

From: raghavendran on 12th September 2011 08:23 PM [Full View]

adhuthu enna CLa

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 12th September 2011 08:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Unlucky England

England Chokers :Puippam:

?

From: Plum on 12th September 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

2015la England dhaanga World Cup jeyikkum

From: hamid on 13th September 2011 12:13 PM [Full View]

Michael Holding :

Ashwin to me looks the guy who can take Harbhajan’s place in all formats of the game. But knowing how selectors think, I am certain when Harbhajan is ready to resume duties, they will think here is a guy with 400 Test wickets and available, we should go with him. But I believe Ashwin can do a very good job.

The reaction on his face after he got Bopara confirms his attitude to me. He was not elated nor was he rejoicing as he knew that a ball before, he had bowled a bad ball to let Bopara score a boundary. Ashwin knew that hit cost his team and so he was still shaking his head in disappointment knowing fully well that he had hurt his side’s chances in the contest. I love to see that attitude in young cricketers. It shows that he recognises that it’s not about him just getting a wicket but about the position his team is in.

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/ashw...ats-80955.html

From: hamid on 13th September 2011 12:16 PM [Full View]

http://cricketnext.in.com/blogs/rmoh...wn-better.html

.....
There had been much cynicism when India's current leading Test wicket-taker pulled out of the series. Regardless of the seriousness of the injury, a pattern was seen to his withdrawal since he had done the packing and leaving in the middle of a tour before, as on a tour of Sri Lanka on which his bowling had been fetching little reward.
.....

From: ajithfederer on 16th September 2011 06:24 AM [Full View]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdt3PFngB9o&feature=feedlik

The Lost Irfan Pathan -

Dai BCCI - Oozhal pannunga, arajagam pannunga avvalavu yen pathu IPL nadathikongaa aana indha madhiri talent-ae ellam waste panama maintainss pannungada.

From: wizzy on 16th September 2011 11:11 AM [Full View]

AF, Why blame BCCI for Irfan's misgivings..he is a bottler and his test record excluding Zim/Bang is abysmal..he is yet to last a domestic season without being injured.

From: ajaybaskar on 16th September 2011 03:35 PM [Full View]

//Azharuddin's son declared dead after 5 days of coma.//

From: Bala (Karthik) on 16th September 2011 04:02 PM [Full View]

shit

...............

From: scorpio on 16th September 2011 05:17 PM [Full View]

If India lose the match, they would lose two rating points and slip to No. 5 in the ODI rankings. A win for England would mean that they would gain two rating points and rise to No 4 in the team rankings.

ODI ranking-um pOidumaa

Eppadiyaavadhu jeichudunga

From: scorpio on 16th September 2011 06:13 PM [Full View]

Cookie wins the toss and will bowl first.

PK out and Polyvinyl replaces him

Why no Aaron? Aprum edhukku avanai England kootittu vandheenga?

From: SoftSword on 16th September 2011 06:41 PM [Full View]

aaron... surprise package for englands india tour... maybe.

wtf with the injuries... injuries... injuries... if playing a football game can give u injuries why in the first place should u play those games?
is there really a fitness team for india?

From: ajaybaskar on 16th September 2011 06:52 PM [Full View]

Of all the Indians who boarded the London flight, only Sunny G, Shastri and Bhogle are not injured as of now.

From: wizzy on 16th September 2011 07:13 PM [Full View]

vinay kumar-oda appa kooda avar mella evalu nambikai vecheruka mataru..Dhoni

From: SoftSword on 16th September 2011 08:01 PM [Full View]

"For all the Vinay Kumar bashing, if you were Dhoni would you drop a prospect that has taken 229 wickets at 24 ave in First class cricket for a new one who's played 14 first class innings with an average of 38. Varun's taken a total of 25 wickets in 14 innings and that includes 1 inning with 7 wickets. So, don't know how he's made it here...are we really that desperate for talent?"

From: wizzy on 16th September 2011 09:18 PM [Full View]

Rahul is and will continue to be role model for all of us: Sachin

http://cricket.expressindia.com/news...sachin/847338/
Sachin/Dravid have come a long way after that Multan episode.

From: SoftSword on 16th September 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

thanks dravid for saving us for so many years..
and u got out at 69 exactly... what a statement to make... what a position u got india to!!

From: wizzy on 16th September 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

Chennai Super Kings ku Periya Visilu Adinga

From: ajithfederer on 16th September 2011 11:49 PM [Full View]

Hallo he is not the only bowler who had gone awry. In general BCCI doesn't have a system to maintain talends. The only one who got very useful out of the system is Zaheer Khan. From Agarkar to now Ishanth sharma BCCI doesn't know how to groom bowlers.

Bathan was a super talent when he made his stakes in Indian cricket. Mid 80's pace with excellent swing. Always brings the ball into the batsmen and bagged one or two wickets in his opening spell in ODI's. They tried to make an all-rounder and finally broke the bowler and made him a batsman. Ippo 70's la pottutu irukaan.

Originally Posted by wizzy

AF, Why blame BCCI for Irfan's misgivings..he is a bottler and his test record excluding Zim/Bang is abysmal..he is yet to last a domestic season without being injured.

From: Plum on 17th September 2011 12:20 AM [Full View]

All rounder Akka try paNNinadhu seruppu brother(krek seruppu). Adukkum bcci dhaanA?
KozhAila thaNNi varalainA BCCI-ya thittuvInga pOlirukkE?
Avainga kEpmAri dhaen. AdhukkAga stationukku varra ellA case-aiyum avainga mElayE file paNdradhA?

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 12:20 AM [Full View]

The first ball i saw in this ODI series is a wicket.

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 12:57 AM [Full View]

hehehe very smart. Bathan is not the only case.

Nehra bowled 90's in WC 2003.
Munaf again very good pace in 2006.
Ishanth again in Perth 2008.
Same with Sreesanth. All these are few examples of how good bowlers become wasted over due course of time. All have become trundlers now. Avvalavu yenga BCCI use to deny players going to county for good practice. Only after Zaheer's stint they have obliged and that too only a few of em.

What I want is a system from BCCI to consistently keep in track. Idhu oru kutthama?

Originally Posted by Plum

All rounder Akka try paNNinadhu seruppu brother(krek seruppu). Adukkum bcci dhaanA?
KozhAila thaNNi varalainA BCCI-ya thittuvInga pOlirukkE?
Avainga kEpmAri dhaen. AdhukkAga stationukku varra ellA case-aiyum avainga mElayE file paNdradhA?

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 01:18 AM [Full View]

MM Patel to Trott, 1 no ball, 128.9 kph, Trott is caught off a no-ball! He jumped down the track and tried to drive Munaf over the top, but couldn't get it past Parthiv at mid-off. Parthiv launched into frantic celebrations, but Munaf has over-stepped! Well, India have no luck. It's official

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 01:40 AM [Full View]

16.2
Jadeja to Cook, 2 runs, 89.6 kph, in the air ... and safe! Cook sliced right across this one, the ball went high but down the ground, landing right between long on and long off. And, in fact, it looks like we've got an injury here. Munaf was the man running from long off, and as he slid across the painted outfield he's hurt something. It's his right ankle, and he looks to be in some pain. Yep, the stretcher comes out. Kind of sums up India's tour ...

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 01:40 AM [Full View]

Disassssttteerrrr. Enna ezhavu saniyan pudicha tour idhu

From: somu_87 on 17th September 2011 02:06 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by SoftSword

thanks dravid for saving us for so many years..
and u got out at 69 exactly... what a statement to make... what a position u got india to!!

Ithula yetho uzl aartham irukira mari theriyuthey !!

From: raghavendran on 17th September 2011 08:46 AM [Full View]

enna vazhka da idhu

From: sathya_1979 on 17th September 2011 08:56 AM [Full View]

enna veLaiyaattu idhu, enna veLaiyaattu idhu, gOli veLayaadu gundu veLayaadu.........

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th September 2011 09:14 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Disassssttteerrrr. Enna ezhavu saniyan pudicha tour idhu

Oru vazhiya mudinjudhu

Ippadi oru kodumaiyana series-a irukkum-nu ninaichu kooda parkkala

Indha thread-aiye lock panni delete pannidalama

From: satissh_r on 17th September 2011 09:29 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Indha thread-aiye lock panni delete pannidalama

Pannirunga master... Thread parthalae romba erichala irukku

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 09:35 AM [Full View]

Please to the deliett. I have no qualms.

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Oru vazhiya mudinjudhu

Ippadi oru kodumaiyana series-a irukkum-nu ninaichu kooda parkkala

Indha thread-aiye lock panni delete pannidalama

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th September 2011 09:49 AM [Full View]

I was actually not serious when I said that. But sounds like a good idea

From: ajithfederer on 17th September 2011 10:01 AM [Full View]

hahaha. Ippadi oru dharithiram pudicha tour-ae naan 90's la kooda paathadhu illa. Ngappa saami

From: wizzy on 17th September 2011 10:19 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

hahaha. Ippadi oru dharithiram pudicha tour-ae naan 90's la kooda paathadhu illa. Ngappa saami

+1
It was India's good fortune ZK didn't pull up during the worldcup...this series has reiterated the fact Zak is India's most indispensable player.

From: Plum on 17th September 2011 11:27 AM [Full View]

Edhukkum ingilaandhu rasigar elizabeth mannar feeyarai kettuttu delete paNNunga

From: wizzy on 17th September 2011 11:47 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Hallo he is not the only bowler who had gone awry. In general BCCI doesn't have a system to maintain talends. The only one who got very useful out of the system is Zaheer Khan. From Agarkar to now Ishanth sharma BCCI doesn't know how to groom bowlers.

Bathan was a super talent when he made his stakes in Indian cricket. Mid 80's pace with excellent swing. Always brings the ball into the batsmen and bagged one or two wickets in his opening spell in ODI's. They tried to make an all-rounder and finally broke the bowler and made him a batsman. Ippo 70's la pottutu irukaan.

AF, it is the same system which produced Kapil,Srinath,Kumble and they played without a physio/bio mechanist for most of the career. You can't blame the system if the bowlers remain crap/fat most of the time. Pathani is a class A bottler and had the usual first season highs... thot the culprit was Venky prasad who was solely responsible for Indian bowlers losing pace

Fast bowling is/was never our strong point so no point blaming the system and it will continue to churn out trundlers like Vinay Koomar/Unadcat/Mithun and the likes. chattiyil irundhaal thane agappayil varum

From: P_R on 17th September 2011 08:48 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

enna veLaiyaattu idhu, enna veLaiyaattu idhu, gOli veLayaadu gundu veLayaadu.........

I couldn't have asked for more in my wildest childish dreams.
Clean sweep one day series ellAm

But this is going to be remembered as a full strength England defeating an injury-struck beleaguered B-team. adhu dhaan oru slight kaduppu.

From: P_R on 17th September 2011 08:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Edhukkum ingilaandhu rasigar elizabeth mannar feeyarai kettuttu delete paNNunga

dhAraLamA poottikking. Sticky aakirunga. rasigargaL, appappO paarthu padichu asai pOttu rasichikkalaam.

From: ajithfederer on 18th September 2011 01:58 AM [Full View]

Oh you know how much I want Zaheer to pounce on POMS next year.

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Bring you full strength squad.

Originally Posted by P_R

I couldn't have asked for more in my wildest childish dreams.
Clean sweep one day series ellAm

But this is going to be remembered as a full strength England defeating an injury-struck beleaguered B-team. adhu dhaan oru slight kaduppu.

From: ajithfederer on 18th September 2011 02:00 AM [Full View]

Hell yeah. He is the best thing to have happened to Indian cricket. In hindsight now I am happy that he played the wc fully.

Originally Posted by wizzy

+1
It was India's good fortune ZK didn't pull up during the worldcup...this series has reiterated the fact Zak is India's most indispensable player.

From: scorpio on 9th October 2011 07:24 PM [Full View]

kairaasikaaranga yaraavadhu 'revenge' series (adhaan India-England ODI series)-kku thread open pannunga.

England is playing practice matches and have already won the first one with Mr Finn taking a hat trick

From: Plum on 9th October 2011 08:00 PM [Full View]

Naan enna solREn scorpio - adhirshta devadhai Dhoniya divorce paNNittu ippO bhajji kooda suththaradhA namba thagundha vattArangaL solgindrana. pEsAma Bhajjiya captain AkkidalAmA?

From: P_R on 9th October 2011 08:22 PM [Full View]

Format- the one in which the World Cup just happened
Venue- the one where the World Cup just happened
India- the team which won the World Cup that just happened
England- the team they couldn't beat in the said World Cup that just happened

From: P_R on 9th October 2011 08:24 PM [Full View]

Anyway, jokes apart, India are the favourites in India.
If England win a couple of the matches and keep the series alive, they should be proud of themselves.

From: wizzy on 9th October 2011 09:29 PM [Full View]

^ India with the attack of Praveen,Vinay,Aravind,Jadeja,Ashwin/Rahul favs

.. stop jinxing..looking at Dhoni goin through the motions I wouldn't be surprised India get whitewashed yet again//

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 9th October 2011 11:38 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by scorpio

kairaasikaaranga yaraavadhu 'revenge' series (adhaan India-England ODI series)-kku thread open pannunga.

England is playing practice matches and have already won the first one with Mr Finn taking a hat trick

My help?

Previous and only experience: Threat for India-Aus 3 match ODI series 2010. India won it 1-0. meedhi rendu match-um mazhai vandhuduchu. aana nadandha oru match-layum kalavaram vandhu ambadhu page odunuchu

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From: Puliyan_Biryani on 9th October 2011 11:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Anyway, jokes apart, India are the favourites in India.
If England win a couple of the matches and keep the series alive, they should be proud of themselves.

Indian team-la firepower-e (Sachin,Sehwag,Yuvi) illaiye. nambaravan (No 1) team easy-a jeyikkalaame

. My prediction is 3-2 to England.

aana onnu saar, namma Raina thambi pallai verugittu eppudi adikkaraannu mattum paarunga.

From: scorpio on 10th October 2011 11:55 AM [Full View]

PuLi- Credentials romba summar thaan

2011 World cup-kku thiri aarambicha kairaasi puNNiyavaan AB - Plis start a thread for India-Eng ODI series!

Indha saabam pudicha thread-la inimEl indha series paththi anbargaL edhuvum ini pOst seyya vendaam pls. LM thread-a delete panrennu sonnaar, udanE seyyunga

From: Plum on 10th October 2011 02:11 PM [Full View]

Indha forumla kairaasi illAdhavngala odhukkidalAm. But adhirshta dhevadhaiyaal divorce seyyapatta Dhoni dhaane captainA irukkAr?

Make the new boyfriend of adhirshta dhevadhai a.k.a Harbhajan Sing the captain of India - appo dhaan jeyikka mudiyin

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th October 2011 02:16 PM [Full View]

Aha, idhu enna sila cricket forum-la irukkara maadhiriye ellorum thread starter luck-nu oru factor kondu vareenga. Namma aalunga ozhunga vilaiyanda yaar thread start pannalum win pannuvom

Indha thread-ai seekiram remove pandren

From: Plum on 10th October 2011 02:40 PM [Full View]

Idhai edhukku remove paNNanum. AvamAna chinnamA irundhuttu pOgattumE? VaralARRai mARRi ezhudha mudiyumA?

From: littlemaster1982 on 10th October 2011 02:45 PM [Full View]

Maathi ezhudha mudiyaadhu. Aana history book-ai olichu vaikkalam

From: P_R on 10th October 2011 03:42 PM [Full View]

Harbhajan captain aagi dhaan namakku oru kOppai kidaikkaNumnA, appadippatta kOppai namakku thEvaiyA?

From: wizzy on 10th October 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

weed is back!
http://i55.tinypic.com/8we92x.jpg

From: Plum on 10th October 2011 09:14 PM [Full View]

feeyaar, harby will meet. will meet. meet. Probably as soon as the 4th match of this series, Harby could be Indian captain. manasa dhida paduthikkunga

From: raghavendran on 11th October 2011 08:21 AM [Full View]

Bhajji jeikardhuku al qaedalendhu 11 peru vandhu match adi jeichirkalam

...

From: wizzy on 11th October 2011 11:29 AM [Full View]

Weed got dropped and now this http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/10306768.cms

From: P_R on 14th October 2011 03:29 PM [Full View]

Parthiban, RahanE out.
annappaRavai wicket in his first over.

From: KV on 14th October 2011 04:02 PM [Full View]

R Ashwin, R Vinay Kumar, U Yadav, P Kumar
iyyahO! namma bowling lineup enna ippidi irukku?

ParveenbhAbhi, Ashukutti click aagala, andhar pannIduvAgo.
How does Vinay manage to make it to the playing 11?

From: scorpio on 14th October 2011 05:34 PM [Full View]

indha dhuradhirshtam pudicha thread-la yEn post paNNi innikku match paththi discuss panreenga?

Oru vaatti England-la pattadhu pOdhaadhaa?

From: littlemaster1982 on 14th October 2011 05:37 PM [Full View]

Kohli - 37(63)

Why doesn't he rotate the strike more? His slow starts are hurting our run rate more often than not

From: raghavendran on 14th October 2011 05:43 PM [Full View]

and in contrast amazing innings by raina again under pressure

From: littlemaster1982 on 14th October 2011 05:55 PM [Full View]

Jadeja

From: wizzy on 14th October 2011 06:28 PM [Full View]

anyone watching the match live..par score on this pitch?

From: ajaybaskar on 14th October 2011 06:34 PM [Full View]

260 a par score

From: wizzy on 14th October 2011 09:05 PM [Full View]

Weed

From: P_R on 14th October 2011 10:05 PM [Full View]

What did I say.
avinga oorla avinga periya aaLunnA, namma oorula naama dhaan kingu.

From: KV on 14th October 2011 10:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Weed

Allov! SirikkardhellAm ippovE sirikchikOnga. Sooner or later, punchaapu puyal, suzhal sooravali, indhiya spinning departmentin pithAmagan, sri sri bajanaikkAran, fresh from leading the mubaikars to CL victory, will be back in the playing 11. Appo ashu ellAm bechku pushu aiduvAru. Appo who has the last laugh nu pArpOm.

From: wizzy on 14th October 2011 10:47 PM [Full View]

^you are not alone even see-whack is counting on pazhaya paneerselvam comeback http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/news/...is-form-sehwag whilst weed is still surprised why he was dropped

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/co...ry/536203.html

From: KV on 14th October 2011 11:04 PM [Full View]

surprisedA? Idhu olagamagA nadippuda saami! He must actually be surprised that he could glue his ass to a seat in the team for so long! Idhula segawag vEra ivarukku suppOta vAngi kudukkarAru. Koot comminAson.

From: Plum on 15th October 2011 10:36 AM [Full View]

That's kaanfident. ". Drop paNNittAngaLA? EnnaiyA? ENNAIYAAAAAA? Ennai vida spinner yaarudA ingE? I mean, enakku 10 percent kooda evanum illaiye? Enna comedyppA idhu?sari ennamo ponga epdiyum en kitta vandhu pichchai edukka dhaane pORInga marubadiyum teamla join paNNi enhalai kAppathungannu. Appa pesikkalaam ". Idhukku peru dhaan kaanfident

From: P_R on 15th October 2011 11:55 AM [Full View]

btw Pragyan Ojha dismantled Rajasthan in the Irani trophy- 9 wickuts. EllA directionlErndhu bhajji attack paNraangappA.

From: wizzy on 15th October 2011 12:09 PM [Full View]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/spo...-blackout.html

Bumble's commentary over phone

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...out-India.html

From: 19thmay on 15th October 2011 11:30 PM [Full View]

Another sprayer U.Yadav :sigh: aal paaka konjam terror-a thaan irukaan.. Vinay Kumar, Umesh Yadav ivainga ellam pace bowlersaam

From: 19thmay on 15th October 2011 11:33 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

btw Pragyan Ojha dismantled Rajasthan in the Irani trophy- 9 wickuts. EllA directionlErndhu bhajji attack paNraangappA.

Neo sports is going to telecast (tomorrow I guess) a program called "Who is the next turbinator"............. confirmed-nga!! [ Naats - Annan style ]

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 03:13 PM [Full View]

Yaarume match pakkalaiya

Vinay Kumar - 4-1-9-1

From: KV on 17th October 2011 04:28 PM [Full View]

132/5 (29 ov). BhalE pAndiya, bhalE!
Peterpulla appeared to be in some dangerous touch, but thookkiputAngo, before 50.

From: wizzy on 17th October 2011 05:29 PM [Full View]

Yadavar is fast developing to be India's Mitchell Johnson..he bowls either full or short and a customary wide down the leg..he will do fine if he can somehow develop Mitchell's lucky charm of getting wickets out of bowling some absolute drivels.

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 05:34 PM [Full View]

Vinay takes another one

From: ajaybaskar on 17th October 2011 05:35 PM [Full View]

Vinay 7.4 1 26 3

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

4 wickets

From: KV on 17th October 2011 05:39 PM [Full View]

And another one. Be ready for a fiver, gentlemen! Enna irundhAlum, enga ooru paya illa

From: KV on 17th October 2011 05:53 PM [Full View]

vada pOche!

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 07:47 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Kohli - 37(63)

Why doesn't he rotate the strike more? His slow starts are hurting our run rate more often than not

Seems like Kohli read my post

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 17th October 2011 08:43 PM [Full View]

just exhilarating batting from kohli and gambhir..Especially kohli....the backfoot cover drive of bresnan was just superb......

From: sathya_1979 on 17th October 2011 08:44 PM [Full View]

adidaa avana, midhidaa avana, vettRa avana

5-0, 5-0, 5-0!

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 08:55 PM [Full View]

Take the batting PP and finish the match in next five overs

From: wizzy on 17th October 2011 09:06 PM [Full View]

Kohli needs to be tested for Hyderabaadi genes..Azhareque flicks/drives through the covers against spin

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 09:15 PM [Full View]

Kohli

From: Arvind Srinivasan on 17th October 2011 09:19 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

adidaa avana, midhidaa avana, vettRa avana

5-0, 5-0, 5-0!

nalla chance nambulukku......boycott moonja mattum paakanum....

From: sathya_1979 on 17th October 2011 09:20 PM [Full View]

Yeah Yeah, kill them I say

sema adi adikkaNum!

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 09:26 PM [Full View]

Won with more than 13 overs to spare

From: P_R on 17th October 2011 09:30 PM [Full View]

In the end, cricket is the winner

From: wizzy on 17th October 2011 09:33 PM [Full View]

^patented Shastrival line after a close finish

From: littlemaster1982 on 17th October 2011 10:25 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Botham

I don't know how you can think of verbal when you are getting your pants pulled down and you are being spanked

About Bresnan

From: sathya_1979 on 17th October 2011 10:34 PM [Full View]

Kohli's speech during MoM: I want to continue my form as much as I can, but stay humble in the process.

From: wizzy on 17th October 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

after retirement Dhoni should work for cricinfo..his post-match summarization is second to none

From: Bala (Karthik) on 17th October 2011 10:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Kohli's speech during MoM: I want to continue my form as much as I can, but stay humble in the process.

Lighta conpees...

Does it mean "I hope to continue my form, but not take things for granted"?

From: wizzy on 17th October 2011 11:03 PM [Full View]

Weed dropped for the last 3 odis and uttapam recalled for t-20

From: Plum on 17th October 2011 11:09 PM [Full View]

Englis gendilmanly begaviour

where is their patron saint feeyaar? Idhu dhaan gendilman gameA?Dhoni's banana-needle comments on temper - class. Ask your gendilmen englismen to learn class from him

From: raghavendran on 18th October 2011 08:19 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

In the end, cricket is the winner

From: Plum on 18th October 2011 08:32 AM [Full View]

Dhoni:"We had a nightmare tour of England but our guys never lost temper on field"Banana needle on the selfstyled champion team from old blighted blighty. Rendu match thokkala adhukulla disgraceful behaviour on the field. :thoo: - ivangala gendilmen-nu solla vERa oru koottam. :shameshamepuppyshame: to feeyaar

From: sathya_1979 on 18th October 2011 09:07 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Lighta conpees...

Does it mean "I hope to continue my form, but not take things for granted"?

maybe a point to Bresnan & co - naanga jeikkumbOdhu amaidhiyaa irukkOm, neenga engaLa oru seriesla adichittu romba pEsaadheenga. Look whats happening to u guys now

From: P_R on 18th October 2011 09:13 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Flau

ivangala gendilmen-nu solla vERa oru koottam. :shameshamepuppyshame: to feeyaar

yOv, ivaingaiLai engeyyA naan gendilman-nu sonnEn?
neengaLE thuppikkireenga?

From: sathya_1979 on 18th October 2011 09:27 AM [Full View]

adhellaam engaLukku theriyaadhu, naanga oru establishment senjaachu. ambuttudhaan

From: wizzy on 18th October 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

It all started when Dhoni/PK ran two after Dhoni smashed the ball onto the non-striker in the first odi..this cheesed off Captain Cook and had a word with Dhoni over the run..I thought this was a common practice and within the laws of the game..have seen batsman take a run after cleaning up the non-striker..the final nail was Gambhir pulling out and ball hitting the middle stump of Bresnan while the umpire called a dead ball..this had Jonathan dott abusing Gambhir non-stop / Finn on the verge of elbowing Kohli.

From: Plum on 18th October 2011 10:20 AM [Full View]

Andha Australian gendilman vs Englis gendilman-la vakkAlaththu vAnginIngaLE

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 10:29 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

Dhoni's banana-needle comments on temper - class. Ask your gendilmen englismen to learn class from him

Dhoni : poonga.. niiga enna romba pukazriinga..enakku vekkama irukku

From: littlemaster1982 on 18th October 2011 10:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

the final nail was Gambhir pulling out and ball hitting the middle stump of Bresnan while the umpire called a dead ball

I don't understand why this should be a problem for English players. Vazhakkama nadakkaradhudhane idhu

From: ajaybaskar on 18th October 2011 11:09 AM [Full View]

They needed an ignition point and that Gambhir pulling out served the purpose.

From: Plum on 18th October 2011 11:11 AM [Full View]

LM, but you are playing against the English. Afterall adimai jaadhi ningallaam. Edho konja varushamA fieldla success illAma irundadhAla poRuthukittAnga. Now that success on field has come for them, how can they tolerate natives like you playing on equal terms with them? Shouldn't you have a tougher set of rules?

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 11:18 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

They needed an ignition point and that Gambhir pulling out served the purpose.

Then Gambhir

ithellam thappe illaingaren..

b/n no big news in any news channels/sites regarding Dhoni;s comment.. even nothing in twitter too..

Plum.. why not start a campaign in social networks

From: VinodKumar's on 18th October 2011 11:18 AM [Full View]

Master , any comments on Jadeja's recent performances

Sourav and Puli engapa irukinga ... right time to inaugurate the raisgar mandram

From: P_R on 18th October 2011 11:20 AM [Full View]

Flau, waqalat ellAm vaangalai.

Eng have miles to go before they can compared with the despicableness of Aus at their peak-nu sonnEn IIRC.
Bump catch claim paNRadhu, umpire-ai thitturadhu, "naan dhaan out kuduthuttEnE yENdA innum nikkure"nnu opposition player-ai kEkkuradhu etc.

They are on course and I must admit they are progressing quicker than I expected. But 'already there' 'ngra maadhiri sonnA resistuvEn.
ennamO ivainga vaaila viral vachchA kadikka theriyAdhunnA naan sonnA maadhiri neenga maindain paNReenga

btw adhennamO, indhiyAvula nadakkura match-nu paarkka aarvamE vara mAttEngudhu. nEthu veetulayE irundhEn, pAkkavE illai. Ingilandhula nadandha dabbA OneDay ellAm kaNNu muzhichu pArthEn. Hmmm...

From: ajaybaskar on 18th October 2011 11:24 AM [Full View]

Dhoni's another comment was equally good. "The pitch was a bit too placid, I'd prefer a bit more turn. I think a turning wicket is a sporting track in India."

Yaen sir, Eng 237 adichadhu unga kannai kadikkudha?

From: wizzy on 18th October 2011 11:30 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Dhoni's another comment was equally good. "The pitch was a bit too placid, I'd prefer a bit more turn. I think a turning wicket is a sporting track in India."

Yaen sir, Eng 237 adichadhu unga kannai kadikkudha?

ICC will give 2 warnings for this comment and the last resort will be Atkinson detour if any Eng players complain about abysmal pitch conditions

From: VinodKumar's on 18th October 2011 11:30 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Dhoni's another comment was equally good. "The pitch was a bit too placid, I'd prefer a bit more turn. I think a turning wicket is a sporting track in India."

Yaen sir, Eng 237 adichadhu unga kannai kadikkudha?

Ratham varanumnu yethir paakuraar pola

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 11:30 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

Dhoni's another comment was equally good. "The pitch was a bit too placid, I'd prefer a bit more turn. I think a turning wicket is a sporting track in India."

Yaen sir, Eng 237 adichadhu unga kannai kadikkudha?

intha pitchlaye 237 thaan adikka mudinjathunnu nallave kuthi kaatti irukkar.. gud gud.

missed the match completely due to my driving classes..
aama apdi ennathaan pannanga england bowlers/fielders?

From: ajaybaskar on 18th October 2011 11:42 AM [Full View]

They were sledging after every bad ball they bowled - which the Australians normally do after bowling good deliveries.

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 11:45 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

They were sledging after every bad ball they bowled - which the Australians normally do after bowling good deliveries.

oh.ok Ajay.. so thats the reason for Botham's comment..
will check the highlights tonight..

From: KV on 18th October 2011 11:59 AM [Full View]

Watched Kohli's innings in the highlights this morning. Yenna adi! And more importantly, what grace, wow!
Keeping aside the big 3, and momentarily ignoring commitment, one player who looks sparkingly elegant (when in flow, kinda rarity) is Yuvarasan. The style and grace in his strokemaking, with the added advantage of the natural poise of lefthanders, is a delight to watch. This aspect, somehow, doesn't seem to come naturally to many rightees. But, yesterday, Mr. Kohli's display of strokes was sheer masterclass, graceful wrist work and fluid drives, impeccable fluency. Nalla varuva pa thambi.

From: Bala (Karthik) on 18th October 2011 12:01 PM [Full View]

Kohli saab off-side la adikkarappa back foot poshhan oru madhiri irukkum. Hockey shot madhiri lighta...

From: Bala (Karthik) on 18th October 2011 12:06 PM [Full View]

Adutha match-um run chasethanu panni, MS adichu parade-a kelappi win panna nalla irukkum. Thirupthi kidaikkanumla, style ellam apparam paathukkalaam

From: KV on 18th October 2011 12:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Kohli saab off-side la adikkarappa back foot poshhan oru madhiri irukkum. Hockey shot madhiri lighta...

nEththu avan adichcha offside pushes ellam summa thotta mAdhri dhAn irundhuchu, aana boundary... paya VVS-a manasula vechchu aadinaan pOla irukku.

From: wizzy on 18th October 2011 12:40 PM [Full View]

^Kohli is still flashy outside off stump..he needs to watch some of Dravid's 90's knock to tighten up his offside play..until he does that he will end up as another Yuvarasan/Bevan

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 02:02 PM [Full View]

http://cricketnext.in.com/blogs/rmoh...ing-again.html

Smile is back on the face of the tiger
Published on Tuesday , October 18, 2011 at 08 : 24

The smile is back on the face of the tiger. In its lair, this tiger is not only top cat of the jungle but also virtually invincible. No wonder then that the kings of home cricket, Team India, are back in their element. While the days are gone when they were meek lambs abroad, there is still no escaping the conclusion that so far as our cricketers are concerned there really is no place like home.

Just two games into the series, Team England find themselves in last chance saloon. But this is the nature of the beast they are up against. The Indian tiger is hard to down at home, which by itself is no great secret. The point to consider is whether we are at the beginning of a cycle in which Team India will be lambs abroad while conquering all comers at home. It does appear so, unless we can find strapping young fast bowlers to support a hopefully fit-again Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma. Otherwise, Australia Down Under can reduce us to lambs again.

The ODIs against England, billed as the revenge series, can now throw forth only one result - an Indian win. There is something to the soil that gets to the visitors. In their peak in the 70s and 80s, the West Indies won away as easily as they did at home. The Australians of the 90s and the first half of the Noughties did that even better, crossing final frontiers as they called the difficult countries where they found it difficult to dislodge the home team.

After having been dubbed as men who travelled as badly as wine, Team India managed an impressive enough away win record to become the top ranked Test team for 20 months between 2009 and 2011. Even in those good times, India did not win Test series in Australia (never), South Africa (never) and Sri Lanka (not since 1993). So, in many ways, team India was a somewhat flawed No. 1, however enjoyable that status was.

There were smiles all around as India wreaked vengeance, except on one person, the skipper Dhoni who tried his best to wear a deadpan expression at the finish of the first ODI. But it was not long before his mates had him laughing like a child at a cartoon festival as he walked off the square in Hyderabad, carrying stumps as souvenirs to mark the expert demolition of the myth of England supremacy.

The weather, with wet English days that made it difficult for the bowlers to grip the ball giving way to days under an Indian Sun. The confidence began flowing again in the hands wielding the bat and the arms doing the bowling get higher in direct proportion to runs in the bank. The second ODI could possibly have gone the other way if the rub of the green were to change with England revving it up batting first. But then they spoiled that opportunity too by a diffident batting performance in sharp contrast to what they achieved at home.

When timing goes awry, cricket becomes a completely different ball game. The Englishmen may have learnt that lesson quickly if they had analysed Dhoni and Raina milking the spinners while reserving the heavy armoury for the quicks. That is the general rule in India - never try to clobber the spinners when just under a run a ball is easily squeezed out by playing them straight. The change in atmosphere had, however, played such tricks on the psyche that England were done in by the new balls, one of which was handled by the virtual rookie Vinay Kumar.

A pity England did not have a batsman like Dhoni, man of the series even in a lost cause in England. As the nerveless occupant of the crease, he is in a different league.

There is something extraordinary about the way Dhoni can wait for the ball as if he were a monk in meditation who can swing into action whenever he senses the opportunity is just right. There isn't quite another in the game with this kind of ice cool nerves, as if he were a cruising Sebastian Vettel capable of mind blowing acceleration at will.

Being taken to the cleaners in one set of overs is not a new experience for visiting teams. That an Indian team missing seven members of the World Cup winning side, including the wielders of the big Bertha like Sachin, Sehwag and Yuvraj, can do this is reflective of the chasm that India can create between itself and other teams in ODIs on home soil. If late order collapses featured even the winning World Cup performance, what we saw in the first ODI was, like in the final, the match finishing capabilities of Dhoni who seems determined to put away England into the deep recesses of his memory like some bad dream. Given the state of the opposition's mind, he will do that pretty quickly. They are kings at home, are they not?

From: littlemaster1982 on 18th October 2011 02:12 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Master , any comments on Jadeja's recent performances

Sourav and Puli engapa irukinga ... right time to inaugurate the raisgar mandram

Oru match-dhane aadi irukkan. Need consistent performance from him. Appadiyum avanai thittaradhai niruttha matten

From: hamid on 18th October 2011 02:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Oru match-dhane aadi irukkan. Need consistent performance from him. Appadiyum avanai thittaradhai niruttha matten

From: wizzy on 19th October 2011 10:17 AM [Full View]

PaPa opening experiment has backfired why is he still in the team? Dhoniku insurance covera? his tiny legs/non existent throwing arm deters him from fielding in any position. He has been found out and Engerland bowlers don't dish anything short at him. Mukundan/Dhawan deserve a go in the WI odi series.

From: wizzy on 19th October 2011 08:56 PM [Full View]

Wanted to get Indian players out of their comfort zones: Samit Patel

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/10412229.cms

enna veliyattu ethu

From: sathya_1979 on 19th October 2011 09:01 PM [Full View]

thambi veLLaikaara teamla aaL illaadhadhaaladhaan unna sErthirukkaanga, adhukkaaga nee veLLaikkaran maadhiri overaa koovaadha!

From: 19thmay on 20th October 2011 03:54 PM [Full View]

IND vs ENG; PAK vs SL ; NZ vs ZIM ; WI vs BANG ; AUS vs SA - Is this the first time all teams are playing bilateral series at the same time?

From: wizzy on 20th October 2011 06:08 PM [Full View]

Samosa Patelellam 50 adikaran..bowling powerhouse

From: littlemaster1982 on 20th October 2011 06:12 PM [Full View]

Atrocious bowling during the slog overs. Nothing new, but hate the fact that our bowlers still haven't learned the art of death bowling

From: ajaybaskar on 20th October 2011 06:15 PM [Full View]

Adhellam romba naal aavum..

From: 19thmay on 20th October 2011 06:30 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Atrocious bowling during the slog overs. Nothing new, but hate the fact that our bowlers still haven't learned the art of death bowling

Senthil Start cricketl-la "Final Overs"-nu oru program poduraan paapengala, just the thrilling climax of a match. Australia Vs England-nu nenaikiren, England was reaching the target quite comfortably with 4 wickets in hand. Lee bowled 48th and 50th over picked all 4 wickets just by giving 3-4 runs, ripper! Ennala yekka perumoochi thaan vida mudinjadhu. We are capable to produce Lee but the favoritism, bias killing it. It took more than a decade to chuck out Bhajji from the team.

From: littlemaster1982 on 20th October 2011 06:35 PM [Full View]

No Sridhar. Live cricket thavira TV-la edhuvum pakkaradhilla. Neenga solra maadhiri bowling ellam namma aalunga kanavula kooda poda mattanga

From: VinodKumar's on 20th October 2011 09:39 PM [Full View]

Cha powerplay waste pannitaanga

From: V_S on 20th October 2011 10:24 PM [Full View]

Yes, Yes, Yes. Murder them!

From: wizzy on 20th October 2011 10:26 PM [Full View]

Bresnan..if you can't bowl pliss go home

From: sathya_1979 on 20th October 2011 10:28 PM [Full View]

5 - 0, 5 - 0, 5 - 0!

From: KV on 20th October 2011 10:29 PM [Full View]

Namma koattaikulla vandhu vaal aattardhaavadhu. Nosaans!

From: P_R on 20th October 2011 10:36 PM [Full View]

அதென்ன ஸ்டம்பை மிதிக்கிற பழக்கம்

From: littlemaster1982 on 20th October 2011 10:39 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Bresnan..if you can't bowl pliss go home

I was about to post this. It was fitting that winning shot was scored in his over

From: wizzy on 20th October 2011 10:40 PM [Full View]

^bedwetter..Proteas..Choke..

From: KV on 20th October 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

intervalla ashukutti avarukku Gounds-senthil comedy pOttu kaamchirpAro?

From: P_R on 20th October 2011 10:41 PM [Full View]

The over where Dhoni took about Steve Finn turned it.
Till then, things were still tense.

(of course adhukku oru 5 over munnAdi dhaan paarkka aarambichchEn :P )

From: littlemaster1982 on 20th October 2011 10:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

அதென்ன ஸ்டம்பை மிதிக்கிற பழக்கம்

Again Jaddu running like a headless chicken. Fortunately, Keiswetter thought "current" is allowed in international cricket

From: KV on 20th October 2011 10:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

அதென்ன ஸ்டம்பை மிதிக்கிற பழக்கம்

intervalla ashukutti avarukku Gounds-senthil comedy pOttu kaamchirpArA irukkum.

From: wizzy on 20th October 2011 10:45 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Again Jaddu running like a headless chicken. Fortunately, Keiswetter thought "current" is allowed in international cricket

Jonathann Dott is solely resposible for this lose..another Proteas

From: 19thmay on 20th October 2011 11:27 PM [Full View]

That was one of the best innings by Dhoni, well played

I thought Dhoni would remove his shirt and wave it

From: VinodKumar's on 20th October 2011 11:40 PM [Full View]

bcci rendu one days oru t20 ah thookitu oru test match poturukalam ...

Vellai sokkala adi kudutha thaan ratham varathu theriyum

From: sathya_1979 on 21st October 2011 12:29 AM [Full View]

We're absolutely happy [England beat India] because we want cricket to grow in England.

Rajiv Shukla, the new IPL commissioner, says England have lost a lot at cricket and football over the last 10 years and needed to win something

From: raajarasigan on 21st October 2011 10:46 AM [Full View]

aaha aaha.. Englandu kaaranunga fieldingla sothappittu kovapadradha paakkum podhu peranandham...

namakkullayum oru saddist irukkathan seyyuran...

From: wizzy on 21st October 2011 11:17 AM [Full View]

Dhoni trolling Eng team

http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/sport/story/117080.html

From: Bala (Karthik) on 21st October 2011 11:22 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Adutha match-um run chasethanu panni, MS adichu parade-a kelappi win panna nalla irukkum. Thirupthi kidaikkanumla, style ellam apparam paathukkalaam

Ennamo poda Bala..........

From: Dinesh84 on 21st October 2011 11:27 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Dhoni trolling Eng team

http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/sport/story/117080.html

this

From: raghavendran on 21st October 2011 02:17 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Ennamo poda Bala..........

dhum adikira madhiri smiley pottu ilaignargalai thappana vazhiku kondu poga pakringa

From: P_R on 22nd October 2011 01:04 AM [Full View]

Flower defends England team behaviour

One pic of Bresnan and Kohli arguing with a tagline that says: "Tim Bresnan has been given the full backing of Andy Flower"

Cricinfo

From: wizzy on 22nd October 2011 10:12 AM [Full View]

England have lost a one-day series and discipline is disappearing fast

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...di-series-2011

"England's ill-temper does not just appear to be directed at opponents and umpires but at themselves as well. Fractiousness on the field does not help the corporate effort. But Graeme Swann, who is not thought to be a great friend of Samit Patel, directed more than enough tea-potting anger at his slowness in the field, and Jade Dernbach, perhaps more in self-reproach, was not over enamoured with Craig Kieswetter. Mohali was not a game to remember for the wicketkeeper, a hapless display in which as each over went by he might have heard the sound of the carpenter hammering another nail into his ODI coffin."

From: hamid on 23rd October 2011 04:28 PM [Full View]

Ashwin kalakkuraan

His figures as of now 7 overs - 28 runs - 2 wickets.. great? mind you.. his first five balls were hit for 15 runs.. [0.5 overs - 15 runs- 0 wickets at one stage]

anybody watching live?

From: Plum on 23rd October 2011 04:57 PM [Full View]

But when harby is available, we can't play two off spinners so Ashwin has to sit out. There is nobody to match Harby still...

From: hamid on 23rd October 2011 05:03 PM [Full View]

Plum, Yes. cant rule that out.. But still I have my hopes. with Ashwin's performances, Srikkanth as selector.. let us see.. But sadly I dont see Dhoni supporting or favouring Ashwin over darby.. thats what which worries me...

So Srikkanth has to take care darby is not in the 15

From: hamid on 23rd October 2011 05:16 PM [Full View]

and there you go.. Ashwin gets another one.. whoa.. appadi podu..podu podu

darby.. vekkame illama I yam fit-nu sollatha.. pesaaama vayitha valikkuthunnu sollidu.. unakku pazakkamthaane

From: hamid on 23rd October 2011 05:18 PM [Full View]

38/3 in 10 overs .. and bowled most of the overs during powerplay

From: littlemaster1982 on 23rd October 2011 05:42 PM [Full View]

Varun Aaron makes a good impression in his first match

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 23rd October 2011 05:46 PM [Full View]

90 mile yorkers from an Indian bowler

. Aaron thambi, oru varushathula eppadiyum pace poyirum, adhanaala ippove

.

Satish, naan IPL-ku munnaye sonnenla

.

From: hamid on 23rd October 2011 05:47 PM [Full View]

Master. ru watching live?

Yes.. these people should be backed upand their morale will be boosted.. From commentary I can feel that he has bowled much better after getting the first wicket.. thats what confidence does.. these people need to be persisted and given a fair chance.. similar to Ashwin also..

From: wizzy on 23rd October 2011 05:50 PM [Full View]

Aaron

open chested bowling action..lot like Dilhara Fernando

From: littlemaster1982 on 23rd October 2011 06:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

Master. ru watching live?

Yes.. these people should be backed upand their morale will be boosted.. From commentary I can feel that he has bowled much better after getting the first wicket.. thats what confidence does.. these people need to be persisted and given a fair chance.. similar to Ashwin also..

Yes. He bowled really well throughout. No loose deliveries, good pace. He unleashed those yorkers in the final overs which gave the impression he bowled better.

From: wizzy on 23rd October 2011 06:16 PM [Full View]

Ashwin is a slouch when it comes to fielding

..needs to pull up..atleast Parthiv has an excuse of being a wkt keeper.

From: satissh_r on 23rd October 2011 07:56 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

90 mile yorkers from an Indian bowler

. Aaron thambi, oru varushathula eppadiyum pace poyirum, adhanaala ippove

.

Satish, naan IPL-ku munnaye sonnenla

.

Super

naan Aaronoda 1st spell than parthen... highlights pathukaren.. Australia la namma nenja nimathi nikkalama?

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 23rd October 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by satissh_r

Super

naan Aaronoda 1st spell than parthen... highlights pathukaren.. Australia la namma nenja nimathi nikkalama?

che che. kandippa Australia-la marana adidhaan. England tour-kappuram namma team mela nambikkai suthama poiduchu

. Batsmen paathu edhaavadhu pannina undu. Mountain of runs are the only way for us to beat Aus in Aus, IMO.

Following Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy by any chance? DK seems to be the highest scorer in group stage. Form-ku vandhuttaan pola

.

//City suttadhadaa, kai vittadhadaa

.//

From: wizzy on 23rd October 2011 11:15 PM [Full View]

Wow..Stuart Meaker is from then-aprica

Eng should play some of their home matches in SA

From: satissh_r on 24th October 2011 08:44 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

che che. kandippa Australia-la marana adidhaan. England tour-kappuram namma team mela nambikkai suthama poiduchu

.

Sehwag and Zaheer returning should help... Pakkalam...

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

Mountain of runs are the only way for us to beat Aus in Aus, IMO.

Enna than run adichalum 20 wicket edukanume... Anga thana prachanai

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

Following Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy by any chance? DK seems to be the highest scorer in group stage. Form-ku vandhuttaan pola

Of course follow panren, aana athuku munnadi Challenger seriesum muzhusa parthen, athula

Ippa intha T20 tournament zonals mudinji national level aaduvangalla.. appo enna seyrannu pappom

Originally Posted by Puliyan_Biryani

City suttadhadaa, kai vittadhadaa

Koduma enna na nethu veetla shoppinguku kootitu ponen, angeye late ayiruchu, so avanga mela ellam kaduppu match pakka mudiyalayennu.. veetuku vanthu last half hr parkalamnu ukkantha :sebbbaaaaa: Next meet panren...

From: ajithfederer on 24th October 2011 10:13 AM [Full View]

Kohli beta

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/138300/138355.jpg

If there is someone in World Cricket who has the time, hunger and patience(Yeah move over Cook) to match Tendulkar's run making feats is Kohli. He is 22 and has age to his side. Already makes a score of 50+ in <every 3 inning and averages 45+ in ODI's. The cover drives yesterday

. Rohit time to step up man.

A lot will depend on his Test performance. Anga thalaivarae adikaradhu maga kustamana velai.

From: ajithfederer on 24th October 2011 10:17 AM [Full View]

P_R's post after a 5-0 loss. Idhai therdhal thothu pona Kalaignar madhiri post pannuvaru.

நிதி வென்றது
நீதி தோற்றது

From: Plum on 24th October 2011 12:47 PM [Full View]

Af, 4-1 or 4-0 loss dhaanE? :scratch-head:

From: hamid on 24th October 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

India

sigh. 2 test matchum itenaryla vachirukkalaam..

From: P_R on 24th October 2011 05:20 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by hamid

sigh. 2 test matchum itenaryla vachirukkalaam..

Justumissu...

ellAm Australia-la viLayaadikkalaam.

From: hamid on 24th October 2011 05:51 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Justumissu...

ellAm Australia-la viLayaadikkalaam.

inganaye vilaanda nalla rukkume

From: Plum on 24th October 2011 06:10 PM [Full View]

Nesstu year laxman retired, dravid retired, sachin out of form, zaheer injured, harbyless india will take on England in tests in India. Adhula jeyichuttu England-Oda suya thambattam varum pArunga...

From: P_R on 24th October 2011 06:35 PM [Full View]

One day-vE gelikka mudiyAma allAdarOm. pOnga saar neengaLum unga chatterjeeyum

From: wizzy on 24th October 2011 06:47 PM [Full View]

beating Eng in odis at home needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt and shouldn't paper over cracks in our test team..
Eng was/would remain a poor odi team..never seen a team as hapless as India in Eng and was obliterated in each and every test..with Ishant/Zak recurring injuries there is a fat chance that rookie bowlers in PK/Yadav/Aaron/Vinay/ sharing the new ball in OZ..even an ardent Indian fan wouldn't fancy our chance of drawing a test in OZ with this attack

From: Plum on 24th October 2011 06:58 PM [Full View]

I wouldn't fancy our chances of beating England in a test series, even in India.Cook/Trott-lAm triple century kanfaarmed.We should hope we can salvage draws - that too depends on having Harbhajan at #8 to hit fighting centuries. AshwinlAm teamla irundhaa guarantee series loss for India dhaan

From: wizzy on 25th October 2011 09:31 AM [Full View]

TOI and Weed

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...w/10479817.cms

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th October 2011 06:21 PM [Full View]

Dhoni makes mockery of Eng death bowling again

From: Siv.S on 25th October 2011 06:35 PM [Full View]

Dhoni unbeaten for last 7 ODIs with 340 runs, a new record by indian player

From: venkkiram on 25th October 2011 06:59 PM [Full View]

ஒருதினப் போட்டிகளில் சராசரி ஐம்பது ரன்கள் என்பது எளிதில் அடையமுடியாத மைல்கல்.

தலைமைப் பதவிக்கே பெருமை சேர்க்கக் கூடிய விஷயம்.

வாழ்த்துக்கள் தோணி.

From: hamid on 25th October 2011 08:52 PM [Full View]

What a come back

From: hamid on 25th October 2011 08:58 PM [Full View]

Young indian fielding. A treat to watch

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th October 2011 09:23 PM [Full View]

These English batsmen cannot play spin even if their life is depended on it

From: V_S on 25th October 2011 09:34 PM [Full View]

England were cruising nicely at 120 for no loss, thought they would win, but what a collapse. I think Bell's wicket was crucial. Well done Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin and India.

From: P_R on 25th October 2011 09:42 PM [Full View]

T20-la naanga dhaan World Number 1
Test-layin naanga dhaan World Number 1
ODI-layin enga oorlayin virtually unbeatable.
indha subcontinendla mind slip aavudhu.

pAkistaanai kooptu vachchu udhaichittu pEsAma oru nadai Bangladesh pOittu vandhura vEndiyadhu dhaan.

From: Ramakrishna on 25th October 2011 09:43 PM [Full View]

Hahahaha England nonsense.

From: Plum on 25th October 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Don't worry - pakistan will be paid to lose in uae next year. Even if they aren't paid, they'll not be able to stop Cook/Trott and co.Lanka also will fold to England. Australiave lanka-la jeyikkum bodhu, England jeyikkaadhaa.Ivlo en, nextu india test tour-um ungalukku dhaan. Enjaai

From: VinodKumar's on 25th October 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

Oru revenge result vanthuruchu

Dhoni and co

Cook and co :adutha maasam time iruntha vanthutu ponga

:

From: ajithfederer on 25th October 2011 09:56 PM [Full View]

கக் கக்க கா கா வென
கோக் கோக்க கோ கோ வென

Classic English rout to spin. 10 wkts to 47 runs. Oh Warnie! How i wish you come back and take another 195 wickets against the POMS.

Originally Posted by P_R

T20-la naanga dhaan World Number 1
Test-layin naanga dhaan World Number 1
ODI-layin enga oorlayin virtually unbeatable.
indha subcontinendla mind slip aavudhu.

pAkistaanai kooptu vachchu udhaichittu pEsAma oru nadai Bangladesh pOittu vandhura vEndiyadhu dhaan.

From: littlemaster1982 on 25th October 2011 09:59 PM [Full View]

This is what an English poster said during first wicket partnership

Good start, normally when you get the rate down to 5 an over this early it should be a cakewalk but this is England so no doubt we will find a way of messing this up totally.

47/10

From: ajithfederer on 25th October 2011 10:03 PM [Full View]

Absolutely !!

Nasser "Donkey" Hussain are you watching this?.

Originally Posted by hamid

Young indian fielding. A treat to watch

From: Movie Cop on 25th October 2011 11:39 PM [Full View]

5-0 whitewash for the inglees.

Looks like a ferfect, ego massaging "badla" for Dhoni & co. to save some face at least in the one-day arena.

From: 19thmay on 25th October 2011 11:46 PM [Full View]

Massacre...

perfect diwali gift!

When it was 120/0 I thought its going to be a tight game, but I didn expect this at all..

Btw... Happy Deepavali

From: 19thmay on 25th October 2011 11:47 PM [Full View]

Its back to back whitewash for England @ India

From: sathya_1979 on 26th October 2011 02:55 AM [Full View]

yes yes yes! oh god oh god !

From: ajithfederer on 26th October 2011 09:42 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by sathya_1979

yes yes yes! oh god oh god !

From: hamid on 26th October 2011 09:58 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by ajithfederer

From: wizzy on 26th October 2011 10:02 AM [Full View]

Gonguly and his snide remarks..not missing out on any opportunity to undermine Dhoni's record

.. his team held onto a 3-3 against Eng at home

From: wizzy on 26th October 2011 10:15 AM [Full View]

Mushy and catching practice

.. poor KP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wDqLywB7ihU#!

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th October 2011 10:16 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

Gonguly and his snide remarks..not missing out on any opportunity to undermine Dhoni's record

.. his team held onto a 3-3 against Eng at home

I've noticed this a few times earlier. What did he say yesterday

And about that 2001 series, we were leading the series 3-1, only to lose the last two matches by a narrow margin. Ganguly failed to finish the chase in one of 'em

From: wizzy on 26th October 2011 10:42 AM [Full View]

^ he said Engerland are a poor odi side and this whitewash was 'expected' in home conditions and until Dhoni wins overseas he would be just another captain in Indian cricket

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th October 2011 10:47 AM [Full View]

Orey oru Natwest trophy vachukkittu ivar pesara pechu irukke, shabba

From: hamid on 26th October 2011 11:09 AM [Full View]

Whitewash was expected? after the drubbing we got from them just a few days back?? Even the most loyal Indian supporter would not have expected a 5-0 Scoreline before the series..

From: Dinesh84 on 26th October 2011 11:40 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Orey oru Natwest trophy vachukkittu ivar pesara pechu irukke, shabba

commentators job na appadi thaan.. etho onnu rendu pesurathu thaan.. tounge slip aagurathuthaan..

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th October 2011 11:51 AM [Full View]

Dinesh,

Neenga solradhu ok. But I don't think Ganguly is capable of such loose talk. I mean he very well knows what he is talking about. England test series-la naama adivaanginappave ivar light-a Dhoniyai kurai solla aarambichuttaru. Felt like he is capitalizing on Dhoni's bad times. Vera onnum illa.

From: hamid on 26th October 2011 12:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Dinesh,

Neenga solradhu ok. But I don't think Ganguly is capable of such loose talk. I mean he very well knows what he is talking about. England test series-la naama adivaanginappave ivar light-a Dhoniyai kurai solla aarambichuttaru. Felt like he is capitalizing on Dhoni's bad times. Vera onnum illa.

Yes. Even I fet the same.

reg commentary Job.. Dinsu.. yes.. Shahtri ellam "they need to score faster/have take the eerial root"-nu solrappa yaar vena enna vena pesalaam thaan

From: Plum on 26th October 2011 12:37 PM [Full View]

Dhoni is a great ODI player. IpdiyE pOnA he might become the greatest.As for test captaincy, the overseas test still awaits. Ganguly's teams never folded to a whitewash abroad. We have lost Zaheer before in Aussie tours against Waugh's Aussies, no less, with Ponting in Triple Let me venture - Dhoni must win a series against the #1 tesat team Englandin india first - next year.Cook form.The lack of spirtt in the English tour was disheartening. The aussie tour awaits - it is xrucial for Dhoni - nothing wrong in saying that.Even then, this Aussie team is not the #1 aussie teams that Ganguly and Kumble's teams fought honourably with. The England test tour was an opportunity lost for Dhoni, the test captain.

From: hamid on 26th October 2011 12:43 PM [Full View]

//As for test captaincy, the overseas test still awaits//

Plum,

Dhoni innum overseasla jeyikkave illaiya enna? ore oru series thaanga slip aakiduchu.. Though there can be reasons like injuries,overseas conditions, fatigue, exhaustion, still it is a very bad loss and the way we lost the series is disheartning.. But athukkaka overseasla naama onnume illa rangeku solla kuudathillaya?

From: Plum on 26th October 2011 01:12 PM [Full View]

Hamid, compared to what Ganguly, Dravid and Kumble's teams achieved overseas, Dhoni's teams haven't yet(ofcourse, consisting of the same seniors in batting)Partly it is bad luck but then we take offence to allegations of good luck for his victories, right?Anyway, modhalla beat the #1 T-20 side in our own home condiþions first, appuRam pEsalAm

From: hamid on 26th October 2011 01:25 PM [Full View]

Plum,
have to check the stats /series etc.. what comes to my mind is the series where Dhoni and Kumble both were captains and Dhoni achieved the result twice while Kumble managed draw twice..
Reg Luck.. I never said bad luck.. even in my last post I said though there were reasons it is a bad defeat.. I conceded that. right?.

anyway.. marupadiyum chatterjee aarambichittinga pola.. T20la win pannitu pesina mattum pesina mattum enna solla pooringa.. Aus-va jeyichittu pesalaambinga

From: wizzy on 26th October 2011 03:52 PM [Full View]

Plum, Dravid>Ganguly when it came to overseas victories in tests...India's formidable home run in odis started under Dravid captaincy..2007 worldcup did cast a shadow over Dravid's captaincy record..imo even if Dhoni calls it quits today he will India's most successful captain across all formats...Gonguly+Anandabazar patrika mafia

did irreplaceable damages to Indian team.

From: littlemaster1982 on 26th October 2011 10:05 PM [Full View]

Wizzy,

Please don't twist names of players. That's a strict no-no here. Weed is an exception

From: sathya_1979 on 27th October 2011 12:07 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Wizzy,

Please don't twist names of players. That's a strict no-no here. Weed is an exception

No way, being a Mod and a Model citizen you should not make exceptions. Rules elaarukkum oNNudhaan!

From: wizzy on 27th October 2011 09:54 AM [Full View]

^^Shall we a poll and decide on which all the player's name we could mess around..my vote for Weed/Twatson

From: VinodKumar's on 27th October 2011 12:24 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by wizzy

^^Shall we a poll and decide on which all the player's name we could mess around..my vote for Weed/Twatson

Watson enna pannuraan. avan undu avan vela undunu irrukaan

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th October 2011 03:44 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Watson enna pannuraan. avan undu avan vela undunu irrukaan

Avan pandra settai ellam neenga paarthadhilla pola irukku. Most obnoxious Aussie player of this gen

From: VinodKumar's on 27th October 2011 09:04 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Avan pandra settai ellam neenga paarthadhilla pola irukku. Most obnoxious Aussie player of this gen

appdiya ??? ENga ippolam match paakavae mudiyirathilla

Last ah naa paatha Asutralia match WC quarter final thaan. Pona varam kooda en room mate watson paathavae kadiyarukunathuku Watsonku support pannaen morachitu poitaan. Ippo thaan theriyuthu.

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th October 2011 09:12 PM [Full View]

I'll try to get the video of Watson celebrating like a lunatic after dismissing Gayle. Idhai oru pazhakkamave vachirundhan avan

From: VinodKumar's on 27th October 2011 09:16 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I'll try to get the video of Watson celebrating like a lunatic after dismissing Gayle. Idhai oru pazhakkamave vachirundhan avan

Super. I was about to ask links for his leelais

From: GP on 27th October 2011 09:46 PM [Full View]

idhuva?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi4czgF_bXA

From: 19thmay on 27th October 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

I think Trott will soon fall in this list. Oh, he looks so ugly when he sledges.

From: littlemaster1982 on 27th October 2011 09:50 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by GP

idhuva?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi4czgF_bXA

Same same. Idhey maadhiri innoru match-laiyum pannaan. Gnabagam vara mattengudhu

From: Plum on 27th October 2011 10:29 PM [Full View]

Watto - suleimann benn kooda oru muRaippu. Benn got fined for tha as usual

Same situation by Watson but role reversal - Gambhir got banned. Basically, whatever aussies/ingliskaaran do is right and opposition will be fined/banned. Ponting irukkaRa teamla if he can stand out for porukkithanam, imagine Twatto's talent

For all that, Darren Gough's arm-flapping ghost imitation while coming in to bowl to Twatson the day after Watson kept a whole hotel awake fearing ghosts in his room -

- takes away whatever dignity Twatto can claimAussie-aiyE sledge paNNa engliskaaranaala dhaan mudiyin

From: ajithfederer on 28th October 2011 09:43 AM [Full View]

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/138400/138475.jpg

Jonny Bairstow and Ravi Bopara have a game of hockey at the Future Hope School, Kolkata, October 27 2011

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/138400/138474.jpg

Craig Kieswetter does a little jig at the Future Hope School in Kolkata, October 27 2011

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/138400/138452.jpg

Graeme Swann jokes with Andy Flower during a visit to a school in Kolkata, October 27 2011

From: wizzy on 28th October 2011 09:49 AM [Full View]

yaravuthu iconic India-Windies seriesuku thread open pannugo...seems Dhoni will be rested for test series

From: Plum on 28th October 2011 10:27 AM [Full View]

Bcci logic: TV companies' interest and money in test series is anyway low. Dhoni illAdha ODI series will generate less revenue. Dhoni illAdha test series, anyway the margins are low in test series revenue so not much lost by not having Dhoni for test series. So, it is important to have Dhoni in the ODI series.

From: ajithfederer on 28th October 2011 01:30 PM [Full View]

I the open Border Gavaskar Trophy2011/12 thread.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...plate=fixtures

Originally Posted by wizzy

yaravuthu iconic India-Windies seriesuku thread open pannugo...seems Dhoni will be rested for test series

From: wizzy on 28th October 2011 09:36 PM [Full View]

Weed not picked for the Windies test series..is this first time our ace spinner been dropped of a test squad?? Weed will be 'surprised' again

From: Plum on 28th October 2011 09:47 PM [Full View]

No Harby, no Dhoni. Series govindo govindo

From: sathya_1979 on 28th October 2011 09:53 PM [Full View]

Dhoni is the captain

From: VinodKumar's on 28th October 2011 09:54 PM [Full View]

Rahul sharma ku oru vaaipu thantha nallarukum

. Harbajhan

From: wizzy on 28th October 2011 09:57 PM [Full View]

no Raina as well..Mukundan should get a chance to play in India...with Gambhir/Sehwag fitness levels he might get a chance

squad: M S Dhoni (capt & wk), Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Yuvraj Singh, R Ashwin, Pragyan Ojha, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Virat Kohli, Varun Aaron, Ajinkya Rahane, Rahul Sharma

From: Plum on 28th October 2011 10:35 PM [Full View]

Ajinkya

Tamizhan mukundan bad luck as usual - chosen for england tour, dropped against windies in india

From: hamid on 28th October 2011 10:37 PM [Full View]

ah.. whats this I am seeing? No Harby.. Dhoni is not rested.. Sachin is back.. and more important of al Ashwin is selected.. whoa.. surprise surprise.. :hapyydance: Ashhu..

make sure to make this count.. you will..

From: hamid on 28th October 2011 10:47 PM [Full View]

I am reminded of Gladiator scene and dialogue when heard Ashwin is selected.. "Win the crowd win your freedom".. .also need to be careful of this.." they have to kill your name before they killing you"..

From: VinodKumar's on 28th October 2011 11:54 PM [Full View]

Yuvaraj instead of Raina

... let us groom the guys who can be fit for at least a season ... rendu ODI series continuous ah velada mudila that too under 30 layae ivaru ithuku mela test velandu enna panna poraar ...

Dei Pujara unna thaan RCB 10 wicket pona piragu thaana earki viduraanga anga poi yaaru velada sollura ... Get ready soon for International cricket.

From: Plum on 29th October 2011 12:12 AM [Full View]

Oh yuvi? aNNan correctA windies series in india-kku fit aayittAr. Adhaane - injury ellaam england tour appo dhaane varum!

From: 19thmay on 29th October 2011 12:44 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by VinodKumar's

Yuvaraj instead of Raina

... let us groom the guys who can be fit for at least a season ... rendu ODI series continuous ah velada mudila that too under 30 layae ivaru ithuku mela test velandu enna panna poraar ...

Dei Pujara unna thaan RCB 10 wicket pona piragu thaana earki viduraanga anga poi yaaru velada sollura ... Get ready soon for International cricket.

Enakku therinju Raina is playing this whole year without break, paavam boss avaru, konjam rest edukattum.

From: ajithfederer on 29th October 2011 11:58 AM [Full View]

Gelatham Gambhir wicket out. Yaaro Natasha Jain aama. Eppadiyo sandhoshama irundha seri. Indha merage naansenss ae evan kandupudichaan!!./

From: ajaybaskar on 29th October 2011 12:02 PM [Full View]

Zak, Bhajji to follow soon.. Sherwani and Basra ready for long time.

From: wizzy on 29th October 2011 06:45 PM [Full View]

uttapam

From: ajithfederer on 29th October 2011 07:49 PM [Full View]

91/8

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...ch/521217.html

From: wizzy on 29th October 2011 10:00 PM [Full View]

Engerland got their revenge..overall a successful tour

From: P_R on 29th October 2011 10:48 PM [Full View]

டெஸ்ட் ஆட வருது, டொண்டி டொண்டி ஆட வருது.
இந்த ஒண்டே மட்டும் வரமாட்டிக்கி.

From: 19thmay on 29th October 2011 11:46 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

டெஸ்ட் ஆட வருது, டொண்டி டொண்டி ஆட வருது.
இந்த ஒண்டே மட்டும் வரமாட்டிக்கி.

Test India-la aada varuma?

From: P_R on 30th October 2011 12:04 PM [Full View]

Hallov, last series was nearly a draw till Sehwag-Sachin pulled off the impossible in Chennai.
India jevichadhai mattum nyAbaham vachchukka koodaadhu

India has traditionally trounced England at home, right? But last time, it didn't prove that easy as earlier.
aaga moththam naanga padippadiyaa form aagi vandhadhai yaarumE gavanikka maatreenga

From: Ramakrishna on 30th October 2011 12:27 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Hallov, last series was nearly a draw till Sehwag-Sachin pulled off the impossible in Chennai.
India jevichadhai mattum nyAbaham vachchukka koodaadhu

India has traditionally trounced England at home, right? But last time, it didn't prove that easy as earlier.
aaga moththam naanga padippadiyaa form aagi vandhadhai yaarumE gavanikka maatreenga

Last time it would have been 2-0 if not for the bad weather in the 2nd test

From: Plum on 30th October 2011 12:31 PM [Full View]

Aahn, mohali-la rain vandhu kAppAthichu. 100 overs lost in which England would have folded almost twice. Apdi paarthaa, naanga kooda dhaan Broad-Prior partnership varaikkin competitiveA irundhom Englandla. This duplicity - always accentuating your positives and rewriting history to your convenience( we almost won in chennai

) - is a typically English trait. Ninga england support paNNi paNNi engliskaaranAvE agittinga. Ippo pesunga. St George aaservaadham nallaa work out aagudhu. Deivam nindru kollum appo namma pesikkalaam

From: P_R on 30th October 2011 12:44 PM [Full View]

Flau, naan ellAm Kumble-Chauhan-Raju home series paarthu vaLarndhavan (Tendular in Chennai, Kambli in Mumbai).
That is the kind of bulldozing England team underwent in tests illaiyA.
Compared to that, the 2008 series was much better. illaingreengaLA?

I never said we almost won the Chennai test. I said it was won because of Sehwag-Sachin brilliance. i.e. without Sehwag's knock no way India would have gone for the win. And prior to that surviving the last day was a challenge looming large. England indeed happened to have the upper hand till they got blown away by assault and grit. adhai thAnE sonnEn.

Mohali...ahn well. It's all in the game

Btw Dravitt captaincy tayathula England managed to square the series bundling India out cheaply.
So, it looks like England's test ascendancy is longer than even I think :P

From: wizzy on 30th October 2011 12:53 PM [Full View]

in the same vein India's test ascendancy started with India's tour of OZ'04 sollama?

From: P_R on 30th October 2011 12:59 PM [Full View]

Earlier IMO. 2002 India's tour of England. I don't remember an earlier tour where India was looking solid overseas.

From: Plum on 30th October 2011 01:11 PM [Full View]

But you made it sound like it was a miracle India won that test. The test was won on the skill of Indian players. Period. Just like the recent test series was by England. Although BCCI made their job easier with their scheduling and Sachin made a unforgivable choice of playing IPL immediately after tests instead of exclusively preparing for the crucial England tour(remember him using L Siva to prepare before Aussie series against Warne?).And to england's luck, their test players cannot get into even Lankan or New Zealand T20 franchises so they didn't get spent in IPL.Nevertheless, they displayed enough skills in England to deserve the win.They were also lucky to meet Oz in Oz in 2010. Not 2009. Not 2011. 2010 was the nadir of Ricky and Oz Cricket. Now you will compare India's performance against the improved Aussies in 2011 - whuch will definitely not be as good as England's performance in oz last year - against your performance against the bottomed out Aussies of 2010. That's called scheduling luck.If India had toured first and Lanka second this summer, a washed out Broad yet to find his rhythm, Bresnan out injured, Andersen not fully fit, and an indian team not as tired as before might have led to an indian series win and then Lanka might have been washed out 3-0.Instead, it is 1-0 against Lanka and 4-0 against India. Scheduling luck again.And I am not saying this in retrospect - I said this during the lanka series itself, although even I didn't expect 4-0 against India.Let's see when your luck runs out - maybe years before it happens but one day it will sure happen

From: P_R on 30th October 2011 01:27 PM [Full View]

Flau,

Originally Posted by P_R

Hallov, last series was nearly a draw till Sehwag-Sachin pulled off the impossible in Chennai.

this is what I said.
The first part of my sentence is wrong because somehow I thought the Chennai test happened later and Mohali washout happened first.
'nearly a draw' makes no sense when talking about the first match of a series.

So I suggest it be read as the "match was nearly a draw till Sehwag-Sachin pulled off the impossible". I think that is a fair statement. In fact India would have had to battle to draw it.

Originally Posted by Plum

But you made it sound like it was a miracle India won that test.

It indeed was. When India started the fourth innings, did you believe a win was a possibility? I sure didn't. That was one stupendous victory.

Originally Posted by Plum

The test was won on the skill of Indian players. Period. Just like the recent test series was by England.

அப்படீன்னு சொல்றீங்களே ஒழிய, அதுக்கப்புறம் ஒரு paragraph எல்லாம் luck, schedulingன்டீங்க

Originally Posted by Plum

Let's see when your luck runs out -

If 'luck running out' is going to be defined by 'when Eng start losing', then it is an eventuality, no?

பாகிஸ்தானுக்கு ஏற்கனவே ஒரு bail application போட்டுட்டீங்க

But I expect Pak series will be more competitive than India's tour. Simply because they will have some quickie or the other who will click. And of course, Umar Gul is always there.

From: Plum on 31st October 2011 02:43 PM [Full View]

Series win is deserved but 4-0, the hype around it ellAm pArkkum bOdhu schedulingluck paththi pEsAma irukka mudiyala. nAnga Australia-la Australiavai jeyichuttOm - yeah, when they were at their nadir. Even this year, the result will not be 3-1 in favour of England. South Africa beat a Aussie team at good strength in Australia. India but for Bucknor might have won against almost full-strength all time great Australia. You just beat a Ricky at his lowest ebb and a bowling attack in transition. Adhukku edhukku ivLO Attam?

An example:
Before the Kolkata T20, Mike Selvey iN Guardian:
"England might lose the #1 T20 Ranking today. Such are the fickle rankings that one loss is enough to condemn the #1 to #3. We cannot read much into such rankings"
Next day. Same man. Same paper
"England asserted their World #1 status in T20 etc etc..."

As usual, this in Guardian, the left most of British newspapers, and proud about its non-partisan approach.

From: ajithfederer on 31st October 2011 02:48 PM [Full View]

Nalla pesitu irukinga rendu side-um thodarunthu bo-st unga.

From: Plum on 31st October 2011 02:58 PM [Full View]

yov AF, endha oorulayA irukka? What is your sleeping pattern

From: ajithfederer on 31st October 2011 03:14 PM [Full View]

Uzhagthula than irukken. Take a wild guess. I will be back.

Originally Posted by Plum

yov AF, endha oorulayA irukka? What is your sleeping pattern

From: hamid on 31st October 2011 03:18 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Plum

An example:
Before the Kolkata T20, Mike Selvey iN Guardian:
"England might lose the #1 T20 Ranking today. Such are the fickle rankings that one loss is enough to condemn the #1 to #3. We cannot read much into such rankings"
Next day. Same man. Same paper
"England asserted their World #1 status in T20 etc etc..."

''kora solratha vitttuttu ithellam kathukkanum-ga....

From: P_R on 31st October 2011 04:06 PM [Full View]

Flau, I searched now because of your post and read the article. This one, right?

Is this the line you found problematic

England's crown means very little now.

AFAI see, what he means is England is NOT as strong as the rankings indicate. It is a shadow of its cup winning T20 team. So they are poised for slippage.

I don't think he is being dismissive of the rankings at all. Heck, he even invokes Pietersen's ranking when referring to him (and poking him that he may be risking injury aggravation in his bid to showcase himself for IPL bosses)

Originally Posted by Flau

We cannot read much into such rankings

unga reading unselected.

btw indha Mike Selvi, yaar petththa piLLaiyO theriyaadhu. So neenga history-geography-laam invoke paNNi, avan 1857la Kapil Dev-ai ketta vaarthai-la thittinaan-nu sonnA, I will have nothing to say about that.

I am merely reading the article vis-a-vis your comments and responding.

From: Puliyan_Biryani on 1st November 2011 12:18 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by P_R

Flau, naan ellAm Kumble-Chauhan-Raju home series paarthu vaLarndhavan (Tendular in Chennai, Kambli in Mumbai).
That is the kind of bulldozing England team underwent in tests illaiyA.
Compared to that, the 2008 series was much better. illaingreengaLA?

How much of this Ingilaandhu improvement can be attributed to the improvement (yaarukku? yaarukko!) of pitches? IMO there doesn't seem to be any improvement in England's ability to play spin in responsive pitches (Final ODI seemed to affirm this). So really have England improved? If the current or 2008 English team were to play in Kumble-Chauhan-Raju time pitches would they fare any better? Hypothetical question, but still worth mulling over?

PS: ICC vellaiyar arajagam on spinning pitches-kellaam enakku badhil venaam

. adhu annan Plum area, avaru kettaarunna sollunga

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