Wimbledon 2010 started Yesterday and will Finish on 4th of July. Let's discuss about the Matches, predictions for the Champions ships!
Who will win the Men's single ?
Who will win the ladies Single?
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WIMBLEDON 2010
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 01:18 AM [Full View]
Anyone following Mahut-Isner Match???????????????
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From: VinodKumar's on 24th June 2010 02:18 AM [Full View]
5th set 59-59 aamae
Originally Posted by m_karthik
Anyone following Mahut-Isner Match???????????????
Naaliku continue pannuraangalam 
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From: tamizharasan on 24th June 2010 02:44 AM [Full View]
the match between mahut-isner will go down into history as well as geography as the longest match ever played in any sport except cricket.
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 03:19 AM [Full View]
Three day tennis match.. Originally Posted by VinodKumar's
5th set 59-59 aamae Originally Posted by m_karthik
Anyone following Mahut-Isner Match??????????????? Naaliku continue pannuraangalam
Worldcup football ku pottiya panraanga.. Many 5 setters in this wimbledon...
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 24th June 2010 10:54 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by tamizharasan
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From: Plum on 24th June 2010 10:57 AM [Full View]
indru pOi nALai vArAi-nu theme song pOttAngaLA backgroundla?
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From: raajarasigan on 24th June 2010 11:18 AM [Full View]
can someone post related article on this? Sports sites are blocked in my office Originally Posted by m_karthik
Three day tennis match.. Originally Posted by VinodKumar's
5th set 59-59 aamae Originally Posted by m_karthik
Anyone following Mahut-Isner Match??????????????? Naaliku continue pannuraangalam
Worldcup football ku pottiya panraanga.. Many 5 setters in this wimbledon...
Football / Wimbledonkku naduvula Asia Cup marandhaachum pola....
GM: Unga sandaila naan kudutha 100 roovaiya marandhudaatheenga...
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From: raajarasigan on 24th June 2010 11:34 AM [Full View]
Got an article on this by googling...
* Record books rewritten for good
(adds quotes, details)
By Martyn Herman
LONDON, June 23 (Reuters) - American John Isner and Frenchman Nicolas Mahut staggered off court as darkness fell on Wednesday after taking a chainsaw to the tennis record books on an unforgettable day at Wimbledon.
When darkness interrupted their first-round match for the second consecutive day with the score at 59-59 (yes, fifty nine - fifty nine) in the fifth set they had been hammering away at each other for an unbelievable 10 hours.
In a match of truly freakish proportions, towering 23rd seed Isner could barely stay upright as the crowds on Court 18 and those scrambling for every available vantage point chanted: "We want more...we want more".
Some even had the audacity to boo as the gladiators packed away their rackets but then broke out into spontaneous, rapturous applause as the realisation of what they had just witnessed sunk in.
The two players, providing they can revive themselves, will be back on Thursday to complete a mind-boggling match that brought Wimbledon to a standstill on Day Three and will become one of the great "I was there moments" in sporting folklore.
Until Wednesday the longest match occurred at the French Open in 2004 between Frenchmen Arnaud Clement and Fabrice Santoro -- that duel lasting a mere six hours and 33 minutes.
The fifth set alone of this mesmerising epic has lasted seven hours and six minutes and the way both players were serving suggested it might not even be concluded by close of play on Thursday.
To put things into perspective, Serena Williams spent only one hour more on court to win seven matches on the way to last year's Wimbledon title than Isner and Mahut did in their stupendous, energy-sapping, fifth set.
The previous longest singles match at Wimbledon was the five hours 28 minutes Greg Holmes needed to beat fellow American Todd Witsken in 1989.
Returning to court on a scorching day at Wimbledon delicately poised at two sets apiece after fading light had interrupted play on Tuesday, Isner and Mahut became embroiled in a brutal war of attrition in which the serve was king.
Mahut, who had to survive the qualifying tournament just to take his place in the first round, served to stay in the match an incredulous 55 times, and on each occasion the Frenchman did not flinch before calling for a time-out.
"I want to play on, but I can't see the ball," he told the umpire, who eventually halted proceedings.
Mahut fended off a match point at 9-10, two more at 32-33, then survived another one at 58-59 when he fired down a jaw-dropping 95th ace.
Isner sent down 98 bombs of his own as both players eclipsed the previous record of 78 aces by Ivo Karlovic in a Davis Cup tie against the Czech Republic last year.
Defending men's champion Roger Federer was shunted off the BBC's live transmission as the drama unfolded on Court 18 as two players who would normally be lucky to make their highlights show unwittingly grabbed the spotlight.
As shadows crept across the court and the sun dipped down below Wimbledon Hill the fifth set was finally curtailed after seven hours and six minutes -- the time it takes the International Space Station to orbit Earth four times.
"Nothing like this will ever happen again. Ever," American Isner gasped as he and Mahut left the court to a standing ovation.
"Someone has to win so we'll come back tomorrow," the 28-year-old Mahut, who looked the fresher player by the end, said. "Everyone wants to see the end."
Players who had already finished their matches were transfixed in the competitors' restaurant as the television channels were switched from the evening's World Cup fixtures to the events taking place just 200 metres away on Court 18.
"I walked on court at about 11-all in the fifth and now I'm off and they're still going," Federer told reporters after is second-round win against Ilija Bozoljac.
"This is absolutely amazing. In a way, I wish I was them, in some ways I wish I wasn't them. This is a very special match. I hope somehow this is going to end."
Novak Djokovic could not take his eyes off the screen as he gave his press conference after a straight-sets defeat of Taylor Dent.
"It's unbelievable. You have to give them credit," he said. "Both of them are winners. Maybe they should agree on playing tiebreak if it's 50-50."
American Andy Roddick could not help himself.
"Seriously," he said on his Twitter site. "Doesn't anyone have to pee? Umpires included?"
At 58-58 in the fifth set nature finally did take its course as Mahut and Isner headed off towards the bathroom only to return for another two games of the relentless stalemate.
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On second day, they started from the fifth set ?
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From: Sanjeevi on 24th June 2010 04:47 PM [Full View]
that is because of grass count mainly depends on service?
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 24th June 2010 05:03 PM [Full View]
who is playing today @wimbledon, does any one know ?
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 08:44 PM [Full View]
As usual Isner-Mahut is playing with 64-63 in final set with mahut serving.. Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
who is playing today @wimbledon, does any one know ?
Tsonga,Murray,Giles Simon goes through the third round..
Nadal, Youzhny , David Ferrer yet to play..
In ladies, Clijsters, Jankovic, Henin, Venus goes through to third round
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From: bingleguy on 24th June 2010 08:45 PM [Full View]
anybody planning to be there during FINALS ????
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 24th June 2010 08:55 PM [Full View]
Me perhaps, Wimbledon is only 5 mins by train from my home, 19mins driviing or 30mins in the bus Originally Posted by bingleguy
but I think the tickets have all been 'Sold out'
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From: Nerd on 24th June 2010 09:08 PM [Full View]
For those who are interested to follow the Isner-Mahut match
http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.co...istoric-match/ (Live updates)
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 09:31 PM [Full View]
Oru valiya mudichitaanga Originally Posted by Nerd
Isner Won- 70-68
After 11 hours 5 Minutes
Aces - Isner 112 - Mahut - 103
Winners - Isner 246- Mahut - 244
Total Points Won - Isner 478- Mahut - 502
Last Set Duration - 491 minutes
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From: omega on 24th June 2010 09:31 PM [Full View]
Finally its over.....70-68 for Isner.... Originally Posted by Nerd
Isner & Mahut
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From: Kalyasi on 24th June 2010 09:33 PM [Full View]
Isner and Mahut
Mahut badluck dude, its really hard to be on the losing side after playing such good tennis...
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From: VinodKumar's on 24th June 2010 09:36 PM [Full View]
Yeah. Originally Posted by Kalyasi
Isner and Mahut
Mahut badluck dude, its really hard to be on the losing side after playing such good tennis...
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From: Dinesh84 on 24th June 2010 09:37 PM [Full View]
cha.. mudichitangalae..
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 09:51 PM [Full View]
Paavam pa.. Isner has to play his second round match .. his doubles first round match.. today Originally Posted by Dinesh84
cha.. mudichitangalae..
He meets a guy in third roundwho also played 5 setter by winning last set as 16-14 yesterday.
and third round will be again a tougher one with Youzhny or Paul-Henri-Mathieu.. and he cannot go more than fourth..as it is Nadal...
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From: ajithfederer on 24th June 2010 09:52 PM [Full View]
Mokkai match. Whats the use in playing 138 games to decide the winner of a 5th set. Tie-breakers please. Let's save time and energy.
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From: Kalyasi on 24th June 2010 10:04 PM [Full View]
I mean the point is even after playing 136 games, Isner was serving @ 135 Mph Originally Posted by ajithfederer
tired e aava maatingalo? thol pattayellam kizhinju irukum... who knows it might bring an end to their career...
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From: Sanjeevi on 24th June 2010 10:36 PM [Full View]
yes Originally Posted by ajithfederer
only for finals like important matches it is OK
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From: Sanjeevi on 24th June 2010 10:42 PM [Full View]
kind of enthusiasm? Originally Posted by Kalyasi
I mean the point is even after playing 136 games, Isner was serving @ 135 Mph Originally Posted by ajithfederer
tired e aava maatingalo? thol pattayellam kizhinju irukum... who knows it might bring an end to their career...
final set itself equals 12 sets atleast and hence we can treat they have played almost 20 sets in a single match
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From: 19thmay on 24th June 2010 10:44 PM [Full View]
Isner-ku cup-a koduthudungapa paavam!
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From: m_karthik on 24th June 2010 11:02 PM [Full View]
Nadal has to go for his five setter to go through to third round...
He is trailing 5-7, 6-2 , 3-6 against big servind Robert Hasse..
Hasse Aces 23 against Nadal's 5
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From: Plum on 25th June 2010 06:51 AM [Full View]
If Isner gets through to fourth round, an easy match for Nadal. I mean, even if Isner isnt tired out, he is easy meat for Nadal. idhukkappuram chancE illai
(Yeah, En prachnai enakku)
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From: omega on 25th June 2010 05:39 PM [Full View]
Isner is going thru' the motions in his 2nd round match against
De Bakker. He is not giving up, even though there seems to be no hope at all. Lets hope he doesn't damage his career in the process.
(Isner to a dejected Mahut @ the net after their marathon "Dude, there is no reason to be upset, I am going to knocked off tommorrow")
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From: omega on 25th June 2010 05:43 PM [Full View]
Nadala pathina kavalaya vidunga..... Originally Posted by Plum
If Isner gets through to fourth round, an easy match for Nadal. I mean, even if Isner isnt tired out, he is easy meat for Nadal. idhukkappuram chancE illai
(Yeah, En prachnai enakku)
Nammaaalu innikku theruvaara (against A Clement).
Clement has beaten Roger twice in GS events, 2001 AO being the last time)
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From: m_karthik on 25th June 2010 09:56 PM [Full View]
And yes.. he is knocked off... Originally Posted by omega
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From: ajithfederer on 25th June 2010 11:22 PM [Full View]
Nadal and Soderling may face each other in a 4th round match
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From: ajithfederer on 25th June 2010 11:36 PM [Full View]
Theritaan. 6-2 6-4 6-2.
Originally Posted by omega
Nadala pathina kavalaya vidunga..... Originally Posted by Plum
If Isner gets through to fourth round, an easy match for Nadal. I mean, even if Isner isnt tired out, he is easy meat for Nadal. idhukkappuram chancE illai
(Yeah, En prachnai enakku)
Nammaaalu innikku theruvaara (against A Clement).
Clement has beaten Roger twice in GS events, 2001 AO being the last time)
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From: m_karthik on 26th June 2010 01:28 AM [Full View]
It's Quarterfinals... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nadal and Soderling may face each other in a 4th round match.
This year is a mirror to last year..
2009 - Ausopen - Nadal
2010 - Ausopen - Federer
2009 - Madrid Masters -Federer beats Nadal
2010 - Madrid Masters -Nadal beats Federer
2009 - French Open - Soderling beats Nadal(4th round) and lose to Fed in final
2010 - French Open - Soderling beats Fed(quarterfinal) and lose to Nadal in final
2009 - Wimbledon - Soderling loses to Fed in 4th round
2010 - Wimbledon - Soderling may meet Nadal in Quarterfinals
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From: ajithfederer on 26th June 2010 09:54 PM [Full View]
Nice observation. Nadal trailing 2 sets to 1 to petzschner (germany) 4-6 6-4 7-6.
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From: omega on 26th June 2010 09:56 PM [Full View]
And Rafa has called for the trainer (something bothering him on his left forearm) Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: ajithfederer on 26th June 2010 10:08 PM [Full View]
Petzschner has a solid serve. He hits big aces and difficult serves for Nadal. He just gives away some easy points and thats the little problem for him.
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From: omega on 26th June 2010 10:11 PM [Full View]
Petzschner is able to attack only from his forehand, his BH is pretty week though. He only slices most of the time. Seems like Nadal's arm is fine. Interesting 4th set...
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From: omega on 26th June 2010 10:16 PM [Full View]
Thambi Nadal has called trainer this time to have a look at his knee........
In the mean time Paul-Henri Mathieu is waiting for this match's winner to meet in the 4th round.
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From: omega on 26th June 2010 10:18 PM [Full View]
I think Nadal is trying to slow down Petzschner.....
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From: m_karthik on 26th June 2010 10:50 PM [Full View]
Now Petzschner called trainer.. Avan hitler sondhakaarano???? Originally Posted by omega
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From: Nerd on 26th June 2010 11:14 PM [Full View]
Won it.. Not easy as he would have liked. But well played Petszhner (yevaradhi?)
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From: m_karthik on 28th June 2010 08:28 AM [Full View]
After Rest day, play resumes on Monday..
4th Round matches (in order of draw)
Federer vs Melzer
Berydych vs Brands
Djokovic vs Hewitt
Roddick vs Lu
Tsonga vs Benneteau
Murray vs Querrey
Soderling vs Ferrer
Nadal vs Paul Mathieu
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From: ajithfederer on 28th June 2010 07:06 PM [Full View]
Federer just won 6-3 6-2 6-3 and moved to Q/F's.
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From: m_karthik on 28th June 2010 11:04 PM [Full View]
Federer , Berdych, Djokovic, Tsonga Goes through
Murray leads 2 sets to nil.. 3-3 in third set
Soderling going on for his first five setter... 3-3 in final set
Roddick trailing one sets to two.. 4-4 in fourth set
Nadal just started 2-1 with a break ahead
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From: m_karthik on 29th June 2010 01:05 AM [Full View]
Murray , Soderling, Nadal goes through to next round
Roddick goes home after a great fightback.
Quarter final Line up (Wednesday) - In draw order
Federer vs Berdych
Djokovic vs Lu
Tsonga vs Murray
Soderling vs Nadal
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From: m_karthik on 29th June 2010 01:15 AM [Full View]
Even if Federer wins the championship he stays with the same 8525 points.
Nadal will increase his points from 8745 relative to his progress.
if he loses in QF +360 points
if he loses in SF +720 points
if he loses in F +1200 points
if he wins in F +2000 points
If Djokovic wins the championship, Federer moves down to 3rd place in ranking after a long time. He was in 3rd ranking in November 2003.
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From: leosimha on 29th June 2010 11:37 AM [Full View]
no not at all Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nadal and Soderling may face each other in a 4th round match. its going to be QF clash.
Nadal must win....
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From: leosimha on 29th June 2010 11:44 AM [Full View]
Nadal defeats PH Mathieu of France in 2 Hours and 1 minute (is it Nadal's shortest match ever in wimbledon?) in straight sets 6-4 6-2 6-2.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 29th June 2010 03:58 PM [Full View]
Can Andy Murray reach the Semis at least
?
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From: ajithfederer on 29th June 2010 09:43 PM [Full View]
He is a good prospect. His strong surfaces are hard courts and grass in that order. He can win a slam in the future.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Can Andy Murray reach the Semis at least ?
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From: m_karthik on 29th June 2010 10:39 PM [Full View]
He is the only guy who is yet to lose a single set in this Wimbledon. But big hindrance Tsonga is next...
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
He is a good prospect. His strong surfaces are hard courts and grass in that order. He can win a slam in the future.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Can Andy Murray reach the Semis at least ?
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From: Sanjeevi on 29th June 2010 11:10 PM [Full View]
aama what happened to del porto?
sorry for late question
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From: m_karthik on 30th June 2010 01:02 AM [Full View]
He has a wrist injury and had a surgery and he will not defend his US Open title also... Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
aama what happened to del porto?
sorry for late question
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From: raghavendran on 30th June 2010 08:07 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by m_karthik
He is the only guy who is yet to lose a single set in this Wimbledon. But big hindrance Tsonga is next...
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
He is a good prospect. His strong surfaces are hard courts and grass in that order. He can win a slam in the future.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Can Andy Murray reach the Semis at least ?
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 30th June 2010 04:07 PM [Full View]
There would be no point in the ladies Finals, as by 'default' it would be williams sisters AGAIN
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From: jinju on 30th June 2010 04:11 PM [Full View]
PARAMS Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
There would be no point in the ladies Finals, as by 'default' it would be williams sisters AGAIN
don't worry, sukran williams knocked out
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From: omega on 30th June 2010 07:08 PM [Full View]
Federer vs Berdych (QF)
Berdych takes first set 6-4
Federer takes second 6-3
Berdych up a break in 3rd 3-0....
Federer
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From: omega on 30th June 2010 07:28 PM [Full View]
Berdych takes 3rd with double break 6-1...
Federer is pushed to the brink...
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From: Sanjeevi on 30th June 2010 07:34 PM [Full View]
Berdych is very promosing from last FO
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From: omega on 30th June 2010 07:45 PM [Full View]
Berdych had beat Fed recently either in Miami masters or Indian Wells.... On serve 2-2 (4th set)
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From: Nerd on 30th June 2010 08:03 PM [Full View]
And Berdych is up a break in the 4th.
Nadal fails to hold his first game
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From: Plum on 30th June 2010 08:16 PM [Full View]
govinda govinda - i told you so - Fed era is over - the question is whether he will retire with dignity now or humiliate himself for a few more slams with no more slam titles!
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From: Nerd on 30th June 2010 08:17 PM [Full View]
Fed loses.
Nadal might lose too (Just won his first game and Soderling has already won 5)
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From: Nerd on 30th June 2010 08:20 PM [Full View]
Nadal gets one break back
Thambrrri, easy aa granslam jeyichiralaam, now that federer is gone. So paathu vlaadu.
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From: omega on 30th June 2010 08:22 PM [Full View]
So, to continue playing he has to win GS non-stop or what? Originally Posted by Plum
He has just started looking human. The odd GS titles are still possible.
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From: VinodKumar's on 30th June 2010 08:38 PM [Full View]
Feddy
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From: Rocky89 on 30th June 2010 08:39 PM [Full View]
Nadal lost 1st set
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From: m_karthik on 30th June 2010 08:40 PM [Full View]
Federer
Nadal Loses first set but a break ahead in the second
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From: ajithfederer on 30th June 2010 09:13 PM [Full View]
Well done Tomas Berdych. Plum these things were inevitably to happen someday. I can only be happy if he takes his GS count to 20 before he retires. The slam is wide open now. Soderling and Nadal are one set a piece and they are on serve in the third set at 2-1 with Nadal to serve.
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From: m_karthik on 30th June 2010 09:26 PM [Full View]
Dignity for Federer is No 1 Ranking and Grand Slam(especially Wimbledon). He will think about retiring only if he adds another Slam or he gets back his No.1. Till then he will continue to play. Originally Posted by Plum
All humiliation will go away if he wins Slams and Ranking.
He blewed his chances in the fourth set.. Losing the game from 0-40 break point and losing the next game after 2 game points and losing two break points in the last game. This is not the usual federer who blews his chances himself.
He still gets hurt when he loses. Did anyone notice Federer dropping some tears when he waited for Berydch?
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From: ajithfederer on 30th June 2010 09:40 PM [Full View]
Illai ippo ellam ippadi than velayandukittu irukaru
Originally Posted by m_karthik
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From: m_karthik on 30th June 2010 09:50 PM [Full View]
Federer will drop to third place if Djokovic wins wimbledon..
He has tough time ahead as he has to defend his Cincinnati masters and has to go atleast to Final in Us Open to keeps his points intact. Otherwise Murray will also go ahead of Federer.
By the way, Will we get any other chance of Federer vs Nadal in a grand slam final in the future???????
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From: ajithfederer on 30th June 2010 09:54 PM [Full View]
Soderling romba salamburaan. Doing a lot of fist pumps and yelling. He delayed nadal serving out the 5th game by calling his trainer and nadal served two double faults. Now they are back on serve in the 3rd set.
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From: Plum on 30th June 2010 10:12 PM [Full View]
I am satisfied with 16 grandslams, alright.
romba humiliate aaga kUdAdhu avLO dhAn enakku thEvai!
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From: Siv.S on 30th June 2010 10:16 PM [Full View]
yes,that was ridiculous Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nadal was so aggressive in 3 rd set.. Soderling nalla than aadranpa
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From: Sanjeevi on 30th June 2010 10:23 PM [Full View]
hmmm federe reign is over?
hope he will try to regain No. 1 next year
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From: Nerd on 30th June 2010 10:36 PM [Full View]
Nadal wins it and quite convincingly too
Soderling-kku over thimiru.
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From: leosimha on 30th June 2010 11:01 PM [Full View]
in star sports they were showing federer match and couldn't watch nadal match....what happened....soderling is arrogant is therinja visayam... Originally Posted by Nerd
Nadal wins it and quite convincingly too
Soderling-kku over thimiru.
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From: ajithfederer on 30th June 2010 11:02 PM [Full View]
Nadal vs Murray and Djokovic vs Berdych. A great line up for semi's without federer.
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From: leosimha on 30th June 2010 11:03 PM [Full View]
yes..soderling does play well...but he has that arrogance in him.... Originally Posted by Siv.S
yes,that was ridiculous Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nadal was so aggressive in 3 rd set.. Soderling nalla than aadranpa
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From: leosimha on 30th June 2010 11:03 PM [Full View]
nadal vs federer would have been a great wimbledon finals... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: ajithfederer on 30th June 2010 11:05 PM [Full View]
Adhaan illainnu ayiduche so whats the point in talking?.
Lets see whether Murray can end the British slam drought. Djokovic can add one more slam if he plays at the top of his game. Berdych I don't know much other than he defeated roger twice recently. Nadal must be surely looking at his 8th crown. Of all the three I can see only Murray stopping Nadal. If Murray makes it to the finals the crown is his and I think the Queen will be watching it definitely if he makes it to the finals.
Originally Posted by leosimha
nadal vs federer would have been a great wimbledon finals... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: leosimha on 30th June 2010 11:09 PM [Full View]
sorry feddy sir....
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From: leosimha on 30th June 2010 11:40 PM [Full View]
so its going to be Murray vs Nadal in the Semis....
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From: MADDY on 1st July 2010 09:23 AM [Full View]
'Grandslam nayagan' Nadal vaazgha
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 1st July 2010 10:15 AM [Full View]
Absolutely, idhayellam thaanga mudiyala... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: 19thmay on 1st July 2010 10:30 AM [Full View]
3-4 years back a little man faced such a criticism, we all know how he is answering now. Legends wont give up that easily! Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Irene Hastings on 1st July 2010 11:01 AM [Full View]
Fedex could have gracefully accepted the defeat instead of faking injury . Why did he reveal this after the match ? Could have indicated before the match no ?
He is 28+ now. Dont expect any more magic. For Tennis, one peaks by 25-27 and the slide starts by 28-29.
He has also lost to sundries this year and last and this shows where he stands now.
I presume , lack of motivation also could be a factor.
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From: Rocky89 on 1st July 2010 01:58 PM [Full View]
Great chance for Nadal.
I want Rafa to thrash Muzza
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From: wrap07 on 1st July 2010 02:20 PM [Full View]
Nadal
proves a point again.
soderling and his antics.
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From: Plum on 1st July 2010 03:10 PM [Full View]
I guess I'd prefer Nadal over Brit Murray.
On the other hand, Murray being Scottish, the mainland English folks are guaranteed to be atleast partly irritated by a Murray win so that's not a bad scenario either
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 03:17 PM [Full View]
Murray ellam semis ku epadi paa vanthan
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From: omega on 1st July 2010 05:38 PM [Full View]
Murray kooda adikkadi vilayaadi jeyicha maathiri sollreenga... Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Murray ellam semis ku epadi paa vanthan
He has played a great tournament so far. I think he has the edge over Nadal in the semis (offcourse, if he plays to his potential).
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From: 19thmay on 1st July 2010 05:54 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by omega
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 07:00 PM [Full View]
Ok, Scottish karanuku ING ER LAND support panuvangala nu theriyala
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From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2010 08:29 PM [Full View]
Ningellam ingae post pannaliya
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Murray ellam semis ku epadi paa vanthan
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 08:35 PM [Full View]
Sir
naan thaan inth thread ah open paninEn sir. and sir neenga TV la pakira wimbledon ah naa Neril ParthirukRen so so intha nakkal ellam vendam sir
Thank you sir
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From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2010 09:22 PM [Full View]
TV-la paatha enna nerla paatha enna match onnu thaane.. Egathalama kelvi ketta badhilum appadi than sir irukkum.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Sir
naan thaan inth thread ah open paninEn sir. and sir neenga TV la pakira wimbledon ah naa Neril ParthirukRen so so intha nakkal ellam vendam sir
Thank you sir
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From: sathya_1979 on 1st July 2010 09:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by omega
Murray kooda adikkadi vilayaadi jeyicha maathiri sollreenga... Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Murray ellam semis ku epadi paa vanthan
He has played a great tournament so far. I think he has the edge over Nadal in the semis (offcourse, if he plays to his potential).
Top one!
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 09:42 PM [Full View]
AF, Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Threadae open ninga enna peria paruppa?
TV-la paatha enna nerla paatha enna match onnu thaane.. Egathalama kelvi ketta badhilum appadi than sir irukkum.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Sir
naan thaan inth thread ah open paninEn sir. and sir neenga TV la pakira wimbledon ah naa Neril ParthirukRen so so intha nakkal ellam vendam sir
Thank you sir
I meant Murray is not a good player, so How he manged to get to the semis? this was my question in a sarcastic way! Him and Tim henman are not 'great player' . And I have a thing about british players in sport, hence the sarcastic question.
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From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2010 09:45 PM [Full View]
Murray,
has reached the finals of 2 grandslam events 2007 US Open and 2009 Australian Open. He has been in the semis of wimbledon even last year. He has won 2 or 3 Master's 1000 events. He is not a new guy in the semis of a grandslam event is my point. He is just 22. And for this age it is a very good record. He has even been a world number 2 player. He is no flash in the plan.
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/playe...w/atpmc10.html
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 1st July 2010 09:47 PM [Full View]
I am talking about wimbledon, I dont't follow anything else Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: ajithfederer on 1st July 2010 10:22 PM [Full View]
Yeah it makes sense on why you make such sweeping statements.
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From: leosimha on 1st July 2010 11:22 PM [Full View]
inga fedex defeat-laa neraiya janangal vayir pathi eriyidhu....
anyways.....tomorrow nadal vs murray will be a great match....murray is in top form....so can we expect surprises tomorrow....
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From: leosimha on 1st July 2010 11:23 PM [Full View]
what had happened actually...couldn't watch it on TV... Originally Posted by wrap07
Nadal
proves a point again.
soderling and his antics.
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From: m_karthik on 2nd July 2010 02:12 AM [Full View]
When playing against Nadal, people should realise that only after winning they can show their prowess.. Just by winning one set or two sets doesnt mean that the guys overpowered Nadal..
In his second and third round five-set matches he literally blasted the opponents in the last two sets.. He came back very strong. Same happened to Soderling in QFs.
Del Potro did that very perfectly in the last US open.
Murray should not lose his concentration and temper if he has to win against Nadal in front of his home crowd.
For Nadal it will be hostile Friday
Tension illama inimel Semis and Finals parkalaam...
Inimel yaaru jeyicha enna..
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From: P_R on 2nd July 2010 10:29 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
TV-la paatha enna nerla paatha enna match onnu thaane.. Egathalama kelvi ketta badhilum appadi than sir irukkum.
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Sir
naan thaan inth thread ah open paninEn sir. and sir neenga TV la pakira wimbledon ah naa Neril ParthirukRen so so intha nakkal ellam vendam sir
Thank you sir
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From: wrap07 on 2nd July 2010 12:47 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by leosimha
what had happened actually...couldn't watch it on TV... Originally Posted by wrap07
Nadal
proves a point again.
soderling and his antics.
His usual grudging approach with nadal.
Deliberately taking a timeout when nadal serving for the third set,
Trying delaying tactics when nadal was serving for the match.
He tried his best to unsettle nadal. Unfortunately for him, Nadal's biggest strength is his mental toughness. may be soder should learn a few things from gentle swedes like stefan.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 07:24 PM [Full View]
Murray ready to be thrashed
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From: ajithfederer on 2nd July 2010 08:32 PM [Full View]
Djokovic.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 08:51 PM [Full View]
murray
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 09:13 PM [Full View]
murray being hammered
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 2nd July 2010 09:29 PM [Full View]
murray
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From: Nerd on 2nd July 2010 11:01 PM [Full View]
Nadal - Straight sets
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From: Sanjeevi on 2nd July 2010 11:05 PM [Full View]
Nadal rocked
but he has to answer Thomas Berdych, a new sensation. I really wanted to see a Nadal vs Berdych match in FO final, but this time, it is going to happen
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From: Rocky89 on 2nd July 2010 11:23 PM [Full View]
Rafa..
Indha Berdrych nenechaa thaan beethiya iruku
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From: ajithfederer on 2nd July 2010 11:55 PM [Full View]
Berdych
Opening ellam nalla than irukku aana pinishing nalla irukuma?. Illai neeyum sudermani madhiri surunduriviya :P.
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From: m_karthik on 3rd July 2010 01:09 AM [Full View]
Nadal hates most and has vengeance on Soderling and Berdych... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Soderling in Wim '07 and Berdych upset Nadal in Madrid masters '06 by winning in front of home crowd and shushing the crowd..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eog0TaQ1o3c
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From: wrap07 on 3rd July 2010 12:20 PM [Full View]
Nadal
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From: Plum on 3rd July 2010 01:13 PM [Full View]
Congrats to 2010 Wimbledon Mens Singles Champion...Rafael Nadal!
(Why do they have to play the final tomorrow? ipPOvE Nadarkku kOppaiya kutudhudalAmE)
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From: jinju on 3rd July 2010 01:19 PM [Full View]
hope this is not ur jinx post! Originally Posted by Plum
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From: MADDY on 3rd July 2010 01:24 PM [Full View]
vaada en machhi, vaazhakka bhajji
un udamba pichhi, pottuduven bhajji
Nadal to his detractors
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From: Rocky89 on 3rd July 2010 05:40 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Plum
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 09:53 PM [Full View]
true...this soderling-am has got lots of grudge against Nadal, Federer etc etc...but at the end...Nadal showed great determination, tenacity and nerves in beating this bachcha soderling-am... Originally Posted by wrap07
Originally Posted by leosimha
what had happened actually...couldn't watch it on TV... Originally Posted by wrap07
Nadal
proves a point again.
soderling and his antics.
His usual grudging approach with nadal.
Deliberately taking a timeout when nadal serving for the third set,
Trying delaying tactics when nadal was serving for the match.
He tried his best to unsettle nadal. Unfortunately for him, Nadal's biggest strength is his mental toughness. may be soder should learn a few things from gentle swedes like stefan.
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 09:54 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Rocky89
Originally Posted by Plum
why? don't you want Nadal to win?
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From: sathya_1979 on 3rd July 2010 09:56 PM [Full View]
I think Rocky is mad at Plum's Chattergy Originally Posted by leosimha
Originally Posted by Rocky89
Originally Posted by Plum
why? don't you want Nadal to win?
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 10:02 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by m_karthik
Nadal hates most and has vengeance on Soderling and Berdych... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Soderling in Wim '07 and Berdych upset Nadal in Madrid masters '06 by winning in front of home crowd and shushing the crowd..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eog0TaQ1o3c idhu veraiyaa....what does soderling-am think....and what was that attitude by berdych....hmm..
so another grudge match tomorrow....vamos rafa....
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 10:03 PM [Full View]
oh...jinxed plum.....just got to know after going thru prev posts... Originally Posted by sathya_1979
I think Rocky is mad at Plum's Chattergy Originally Posted by leosimha
Originally Posted by Rocky89
Originally Posted by Plum
why? don't you want Nadal to win?
plum....no more predictions....do after predictions....
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From: Sanjeevi on 3rd July 2010 10:03 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
vaada en machhi, vaazhakka bhajji
un udamba pichhi, pottuduven bhajji
Nadal to his detractors
paarkkalam Nadal is sampras, federer vagaiyarava? illa stefen edberg, agaasi vagaiyaraava?
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 10:04 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
vaada en machhi, vaazhakka bhajji
un udamba pichhi, pottuduven bhajji
Nadal to his detractors
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 10:26 PM [Full View]
Link - http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/...160611159.htmlPre-match analysis: Nadal's effectiveness v Berdych's boldness
Saturday, 3 July 2010
Rafael Nadal and Tomas Berdych play the game very differently. But when they take to the court on Sunday, their goal will be exactly the same - to do what is necessary to get their hands on the most prestigious tennis trophy on the planet.
The world No.1's game is all about being effective - playing the percentages, chasing balls down, defending incredibly well, thinking clearly under pressure and thus choosing sensible shot selection at all times, while making as few unforced errors as possible. If it takes a while to get there, so be it.
The 12th seed from the Czech Republic is also a great athlete, but the contrast is that he likes to be in control of his own destiny as soon as possible. Therefore, he looks to try and win the point at the very earliest opportunity.
This naturally starts with his serve and he has fired down a total of 98 aces so far, exactly twice as many as Nadal.
His fastest serve has been struck at 138mph, much faster than the Spaniard, whose quickest against Murray in the semi-finals was clocked at just 124mph.
So it is no surprise that Nadal's first serve percentage has been much greater throughout the course of the Championships at 68%, which is 10% higher than Berdych.
But you always have to look closely at how effective the first serve has been too, and interestingly Berdych has won 85% of the points when it has found its mark - compared to 80% as far as Nadal's is concerned.
So their mindset is very different; Nadal looks to make more first serves in order to start the rally in an advantageous position, backing himself from the baseline to eventually win the point, whereas Berdych wants more cheap points and looks to hit his serves harder in an attempt to serve more unreturnable deliveries.
Once they get involved in baseline rallies there will be a lovely contrast in styles to admire, with Nadal hitting with a huge amount of topspin while Berdych will be attempting to hurt the Spaniard with harder, flatter shots.
Nadal's forehand is the shot he will look to use when he wants to step up the pace but keep an eye on the Berdych forehand too. When he's playing well he can cause havoc with it but when he gets a little nervous his technique can let him down. He uses a lot of wrist and can sometimes drag the ball into the net when there is a little bit of additional tension in his arm.
Both have the ability to slice their backhands when they choose not to hit with two hands on that particular wing. Nadal used that shot sparingly but to great effect against Murray, and, given Berdych is even taller than the British number one, Nadal may very well think it is a tactic worth using occasionally this time around too.
Both are also competent volleyers but neither will be serving and volleying much or using conventional methods to move into the forecourt. Instead both will be looking to sneak into the net whenever they feel they have the upper hand in the rally, forcing the opponent to play defensively.
There will be no secrets between the two given they have met on 10 previous occasions, with Nadal having won seven of those including the one match they have contested on grass here at Wimbledon back in 2007.
Interestingly, Berdych has not got the better of Nadal since the autumn of 2006, which is a long time to go without a win. The six matches since then have all been won by the Spaniard in straight sets.
So there is something about the match-up that favours Nadal - and that has to be the fact that in order for Berdych to beat him he has to play his very best tennis, whereas Nadal still has an excellent chance of winning even if he only performs relatively well given he favours high-percentage tennis.
And over the course of five sets it becomes even more difficult to eventually prevail against Nadal, who has a 14-3 record when going the distance.
Add to that the fact that Nadal has won more matches than any other player on the ATP World Tour this year (his win-loss record is 46-5 compared to 36-11 for Berdych, who is third overall) so he's brimming with confidence.
Then there is the fact that he has been here before so he knows what to expect and how to deal with the additional pressure when there's a Grand Slam title on the line. For Berdych, however, this will be a very new experience and it could well prove a little overwhelming.
If Berdych can play his very best tennis, he is capable of beating anybody - just ask Roger Federer - but given the circumstances the smart money surely has to be on Nadal proving victorious.
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From: leosimha on 3rd July 2010 10:29 PM [Full View]
Link - http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/...169599923.htmlBerdych's final plan is all-out attack
Saturday, 3 July 2010
Tomas Berdych says he will take the final to Rafael Nadal - just like he did against Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic.
The 12th seed's power game helped him to shocks in the previous rounds and he plans to play exactly the same way against the world No.1.
"I need to play aggressively this time because he has started to play really aggressive as well," said Berdych. "That's what he's doing right here. I need to be aggressive, don't give him too many chances and play my game.
"There is a real chance to beat all those top players. I've won so many matches here and beat really great players. It gives you the confidence to go and bring it to the final and try my best again on court."
The Czech insists this week has not been a "dream" but he is delighted that months and months of graft have paid off.
"The results are coming after really hard work, and that's what I'm doing," he said. "That's why I'm preparing every day. It's not a miracle. You need to do something to bring those good results. That's what I'm doing. I don't think it's luck or anything like that."
"Taking every game as it comes" is an old cliché but Berdych argues his key to success is to follow that simple philosophy.
"I was just looking for my first opponent in the first round to beat him and make the same procedure for the next one," he added. "I'm going to do same again. Of course, it's nice to be in the final and win the tournament, but to be there, you need to win so many matches, so many tough matches. You don't know what's going happen even during the next day. So I've gone step by step. I still have one more to go."
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From: 19thmay on 3rd July 2010 10:29 PM [Full View]
Come on Berdych!!
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From: Sanjeevi on 3rd July 2010 10:34 PM [Full View]
+1 Originally Posted by 19thmay
Come on Berdych!!
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From: m_karthik on 4th July 2010 03:02 AM [Full View]
Nowdays Men's Grand Slam tennis has a simple rule..
Beat Federer and Nadal.. Take home the Grand Slam..
Beating one guy is not at all enough..
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From: MADDY on 4th July 2010 08:27 AM [Full View]
Berdych has got great serve (best in game perhaps) and a killer forehand - its going to be very tough for Nadal anne
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From: MADDY on 4th July 2010 09:10 AM [Full View]
and it is close to a miracle: Originally Posted by m_karthik
2004
Australian Roger Federer
French Gastón Gaudio
Wimbledon Roger Federer
US Open Roger Federer
2005
Australian Marat Safin
French Rafael Nadal
Wimbledon Roger Federer
US Open Roger Federer
2006
Australian Roger Federer
French Rafael Nadal
Wimbledon Roger Federer
US Open Roger Federer
2007
Australian Roger Federer
French Rafael Nadal
Wimbledon Roger Federer
US Open Roger Federer
2008
Australian Novak Djokovic
French Rafael Nadal
Wimbledon Rafael Nadal
US Open Roger Federer
2009
Australian Rafael Nadal
French Roger Federer
Wimbledon Roger Federer
US Open Juan Martín del Potro
2010
Australian Roger Federer
French Rafael Nadal
very very dismal decade if u look at it.........post sampras-aggassi era, i dont think there are enough "tennis players" to challenge Nadal/federer
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From: m_karthik on 4th July 2010 10:21 AM [Full View]
If Nadal is injury-free and plays to his potential without losing concentration(esp. not on Shakira ) the next decade may well be his.
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From: Sanjeevi on 4th July 2010 07:31 PM [Full View]
Nadal took first set 6-3 and looks like Nadal will win in straight sets. Berdych missed a good chance to break Nadal serve in second set.
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From: Sanjeevi on 4th July 2010 08:07 PM [Full View]
berdych shows improvement in 2nd set
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From: leosimha on 4th July 2010 08:48 PM [Full View]
nadal wins first two sets 6-3 7-5 and leading 4-3 in the 3rd
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From: leosimha on 4th July 2010 09:02 PM [Full View]
vamos rafa
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From: leosimha on 4th July 2010 09:02 PM [Full View]
rafa the undisputed champ
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From: sathya_1979 on 4th July 2010 09:04 PM [Full View]
Nadal successfully fried the bhajji Congrats Nadal
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From: wrap07 on 4th July 2010 09:19 PM [Full View]
Champion Nadal
second time back to back french and wimbeldon
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From: Siv.S on 4th July 2010 09:28 PM [Full View]
Congrats Nadal!
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From: leosimha on 4th July 2010 10:50 PM [Full View]
Only possible by Nadal...Rafa won in straight sets against Berdych....he made a mince-meat of him...
how many of you watched last game in which he won the championship....the last 2 points were fabulous stuff from Rafa...we haven't seen earlier... hats off to Rafa....
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From: Raikkonen on 4th July 2010 10:53 PM [Full View]
nadduvakali
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From: omega on 4th July 2010 11:24 PM [Full View]
Rafa
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From: Sanjeevi on 4th July 2010 11:45 PM [Full View]
Nadal
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From: MADDY on 5th July 2010 12:27 AM [Full View]
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
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From: ajaybaskar on 5th July 2010 08:26 AM [Full View]
Congrats Paes..
U have made the country proud time and again..
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From: Siv.S on 5th July 2010 10:09 AM [Full View]
Congrats Paes Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Congrats Paes..
U have made the country proud time and again..
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From: Dinesh84 on 5th July 2010 10:36 AM [Full View]
Paes 12th Grand Slam!
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From: leosimha on 5th July 2010 10:47 AM [Full View]
Na Na....I differ on that....Rafa was a runner up of Wimbledon in the years 2006 and 2007. Originally Posted by MADDY
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
Year 2006 - Nadal lost to Federer 6-0, 7-6(5), 6-7(2), 6-3 (4 sets)
Year 2007 - Nadal lost to Federer 7-6(7), 4-6, 7-6(3), 2-6, 6-2 (5 sets out of which 2 were tie breakers where he lost it out...he could have easily won this match but made some great mistakes in tennis which shouldn't have been done...federer cud have lost it out in straight sets)
Year 2008 - Nadal won against Federer - 6-4, 6-4, 6-7(5), 6-7(8), 9-7 (5 sets out of which 2 were tie breakers and again lost it out...he cud have won it in straight sets but he came back only in the 5th set...to win the match)
please go through this link for the overview of Rafa Nadal Grand Slams http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/playe...w/atpn409.html
also look at his US Open....he has come to SF 2 times...lets see how he fares this time in US Open....if he wins...then the media will open the debate on GOAT....
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From: leosimha on 5th July 2010 11:01 AM [Full View]
Link - http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Fourteen.aspxSpanish Sports paper, Marca is hoping history will repeat itself by Spain going on to win the World Cup following Nadal’s success at Wimbledon and Roland Garros. “Success for Rafael Nadal and the Spanish national football team has gone hand in hand. Both Nadal and La Roja (“The Reds”) have done their bit for Spain to go through a golden age in sport and now in 2010, we could have a repeat of what happened two years ago. Rafa Nadal has won the same Grand Slams this year that he won in 2008 and Spain is performing strongly in South Africa as it looks to win the World Cup for the first time. On 6 July 2008, Nadal made history by winning Wimbledon and becoming the first Spaniard to do so since Manuel Santana in 1966. Seven days earlier, Iker Casillas had lifted the second European Championships trophy in Spain’s history. Now, in 2010 is seems the same sequence could be happening. On 4 July, Nadal won his second Wimbledon title and in seven days time (11 July) La Roja could be competing in the World Cup final. Nadal has done his job, now it’s the turn of Vicente del Bosque’s team.”
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 11:41 AM [Full View]
I think Nadal is the GOAT. I can see him crossing Fed's grand slam mark definitely. Once he does that, given his Grand Slam dominance in personal rivalry with Federer, there will not even be an argument.
Fed had his moments - now it is time to cede the glory - only thing is to make it less painful for Fed and his fans, I think ATP should announce Nadal as the winner for the next 3 years all Grand slams and stop conducting meaningless events 4 times a year.
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From: leosimha on 5th July 2010 11:52 AM [Full View]
Plum, Nadal still has to prove on Hard Courts!!! err....consistently...now he has to win the US Open....
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From: Plum on 5th July 2010 12:32 PM [Full View]
win paNNittA pOchu! Nadar manasu vekkaNum avLO dhAn! Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: Rocky89 on 5th July 2010 01:52 PM [Full View]
Congrats Rafa!!
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 5th July 2010 02:34 PM [Full View]
Nadal
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From: Prabo on 5th July 2010 04:38 PM [Full View]
Nadal
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 5th July 2010 05:48 PM [Full View]
Serena :notworethy: for the 4th Consecutive win 
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From: steveaustin on 5th July 2010 06:41 PM [Full View]
Humbledon 2010 Tennis.
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From: PARAMASHIVAN on 5th July 2010 08:06 PM [Full View]
eTho nakkala solla vaara mathiri theriyuthu Originally Posted by steveaustin
Humbledon 2010 Tennis.
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From: omega on 5th July 2010 09:04 PM [Full View]
That was long long ago. Wimbledon now is almost like mud (only missing part is the slide) with a good bounce & considerably less pace. Unless there is an evolution, I don't see anyone winning Wimbledon for the next unforeseen no. of years........... Originally Posted by MADDY
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 01:41 PM [Full View]
Revitalised Rafael Nadal proves we were wrong to ever doubt him
• Spaniard hopeful of US Open success after short break
• 24-year-old has bounced back from injury worries
Simon Cambers
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 July 2010 22.00 BST
Rafael Nadal has eight grand slam titles to his name, eight behind his rival Roger Federer.
When Rafael Nadal limped out of the ATP World Tour Finals at the O2 Arena in London last November having failed to win a set in three matches, the whispers were becoming more like murmurings. Many were convinced that we had seen the best of the Spaniard, that his troublesome knees could not withstand the torture of pounding the courts year after year. Eight months on the 24-year-old awoke today with what must have been an unparalleled sense of satisfaction after adding a second Wimbledon title to the fifth French Open crown he won in June.
We should have known better than to even consider the possibility that Nadal would not bounce back. This is a man whose competitiveness and intensity is unrivalled in the sport, a focus, a will and a huge talent that has been rewarded with eight grand slam titles so far, with the promise of more to come. Playing within himself is not in Nadal's DNA. Rather, everything is done as if his life depends on it.
"I love the competition, sport in general and I love to practise," Nadal said as he contemplated what makes him unique, a couple of hours after his 6-3, 7-5, 6-4 victory over the Czech Tomas Berdych. "You try your best in every moment. When I go to play golf I try to do my best. When I have a football match with friends and we play five-a-side, I don't understand why not everyone is running. I don't understand sport like this. When I go to play I enjoy running, finishing the match tired, to give it my all. It is a fun match with friends but that is what I understand is sport."
As he sits well clear at the top of the world rankings after back-to-back grand slam titles, it is that intensity which sets him apart from the rest. No one fights the way Nadal does. Every time a Roger Federer or an Andy Murray takes him on, they know that he will give every ounce of his being to win. It is a knowledge that drains his opponents of their belief. He is two grand slam titles ahead of where Federer stood at his age and, if he stays healthy over the next two or three years, who knows how many he will have by the time he calls it a day.
The only thing missing from Nadal's career is a US Open triumph. In each of the past two years, he has arrived in New York injured or mentally spent and yet still managed to fight through to the semi-finals only to run out of energy on the final weekend. This year, with the benefit of a brief holiday to come, he should be better prepared, so long as the intensive treatment to his knees that he plans to have in the next few days is successful.
John McEnroe is among those who believe Nadal can do it and it seems the Spaniard believes it too. "This year things might be a bit different," Nadal said. "Now the most important thing for me is to rest in Mallorca, to enjoy the summer and then have three weeks like a mini pre-season practice there. I will try to work as I did in December, which was very good for me. I will try to do the same and be healthy to play well in Toronto, Cincinnati and the US Open."
Nadal is already almost certain to end the year as the world No1, health permitting, and if he wins in New York, he will close the gap on those above him in the list of all-time grand slam champions, with the American Bill Tilden, who dominated the sport in the 1920s, next in line on 10. The ever-humble Nadal admitted that ending the year as No1 was a goal and that records will be important to him when he retires, but said his aim, as it always has been, is to simply keep improving.
"I don't know if I can improve but I have the motivation and the desire to improve," he said. "If it is not like this I don't want to play tennis any more. If I wake up one day and I go to practise without the desire and motivation to improve, then I will stop. That is why every day you go to practise 100% and if it is not like this and you only go to train then I don't like it. I want to learn, to improve."
Link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010...l-nadal-tennis
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From: Plum on 6th July 2010 01:47 PM [Full View]
Yeah, I think this year Nadal will break the duck at US Open for him. 3 grand slams this year, and he sure can repeat or better it next year. At this rate, he can pass Federer by 2012 December for # of Grandslam wins. Well, let's say 2014 Wimbledon, if one wants to be conservative. I hope he doesnt beat Federer's # of wimbledon titles.
Gounder: rasathaiyAvadhu engaLukku micham veiyuppA!
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 01:49 PM [Full View]
nuthing nakkals.... Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
eTho nakkala solla vaara mathiri theriyuthu Originally Posted by steveaustin
Humbledon 2010 Tennis.
Berdych has been humbled by Nadal....
and this year US Open will be great to watch.... will Del Potro play...want a Del Potro vs Nadal final.....
will Del Potro be humbled by Nadal?
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 02:08 PM [Full View]
Tennis after Federer is like Cricket after Sachin. Somehow, I dont get the eagerness to watch !
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From: MADDY on 6th July 2010 02:09 PM [Full View]
Then how did a big serving berdych made it to finals.........assigning credit to surface and not to the man completes the surrendering to truth IMO......... Originally Posted by omega
That was long long ago. Wimbledon now is almost like mud (only missing part is the slide) with a good bounce & considerably less pace. Unless there is an evolution, I don't see anyone winning Wimbledon for the next unforeseen no. of years........... Originally Posted by MADDY
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
Even i would say, if grass was as fast in 90s, federer would have been shot out by a roddick or taylor dent....
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 02:12 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
Borg won both french( 5 ) and wimbledon ( 4 ). Also Australian.
He cudnt win US however. He had reached finals but lost to Connors.
Nadal , if he surpasses 16 titles , he should be declared the ever best.
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 02:13 PM [Full View]
Agassi has won all titles I think ?
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From: MADDY on 6th July 2010 03:07 PM [Full View]
to achieve something that u dont possess is great stuff.......
16 GS titles -hmmmm, actually nadal has demolished the guy who has done that feat - so i would want him to do something more enduring and challenging..........
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:09 PM [Full View]
yes... Originally Posted by Irene Hastings
without Nadal-Federer rivalry...it will be too boring...
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:11 PM [Full View]
No..Borg has won 11 titles (6 French and 5 wimbledon) - 11 in total and he didn't play Aus Open at all. He played US Open but didn't win any one of it. Originally Posted by Irene Hastings
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:12 PM [Full View]
yes..Agassi has Career Grand Slam.... Originally Posted by Irene Hastings
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:14 PM [Full View]
Nadal is already the "Best"....he came to winning the wimbledon crown in 2007 closely (a 5-setter game) though he lost out very cheaply in the 2006....
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 03:15 PM [Full View]
Leo,
Sorry. I stand corrected. I thought Borg had won Australian too .
Actually Agassi was almost like Nadal. Being a Hard court specialist , he had beaten all grass court kings like Becker, Edberg .
Sadly, he couldnt continue his march .
A great player.
He won the wimbledon stayin right on the baseline ! typical clay court type game.
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:21 PM [Full View]
If both the Grass and the Clay are the same as claimed here....then how come Federer who has won 6 Wimbledon (5 prior to year 2009) crowns didn't win a single French open prior to 2009....
Even in 2009, Federer won the FO because Nadal wasn't there and again in Wimbledon, though the finals was another classic by Andy Roddick, Nadal wasn't there...Nadal would have given a stiff challenge...who knows he would have won but for his fitness called tendonitis....
Nadal might not be a classic player like Federer...but he surely is a better player than Federer if you look at the way defeated Federer in FO (4 times), Wimbledon (1) and Australian (1).
If you look at the games of Nadal played with Federer...if it goes into 5 setter...surely Nadal has a upper hand....except for the 2007 Wimbledon finals where Nadal lost out on 2 tie-breakers....
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:24 PM [Full View]
After Nadal-Federer rivalry, Agassi-Sampras rivalry is also much talked about where Sampras excelled in all courts except for Clay.
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 03:33 PM [Full View]
True. Federer might not have won French if Nadal hadnt lost . Such is the Nadal dominance on clay.
Besides, last year's wimbledon final could have gone either way. Roddick was unlucky
Federer will be the greatest if he manages to beat Nadal in French Open. This may never happen .
Nadal, to reach 16 titles needs 8 more which means another 3 to 4 years if form permits. This is achievable .
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:49 PM [Full View]
Nadal, I guess, has given prime importance to his fitness in the knees of late. He is planning his tournament schedule properly and planning not to play more and play only important tournaments, I guess.
If he does this properly...then Nadal can surely go to the top.
Also one more important point to note. When Federer dominated the years from 2003 to 2008....there was a challenge called Nadal and no other player could challenge Federer the way Nadal did. Federer giving lame excuses that he hasn't played with many left-handers should be hammered on his head. I don't like this aspect of his.
And from 2009 onwards....the year when Federer lost to Nadal in AO and to Del Potro in US Open.....won FO and Wimb (again a 5-setter with Andy Roddick) with no Nadal show...the decline of Federer started....
If Federer is called the King of Grass...then he should have won the finals in 3 setters just like the King of Clay Nadal did it in FO finals...but Federer was moved to more than 3 setters from 2006, 2007, 2008, against Nadal and 2009 against Andy Roddick. so is it a just statement to call Federer King of Grass but Nadal defeated Berdych in straight sets..a big game server.
also Nadal has more challenges in the form of Murray, Soderling, Berdych, Melzer all big game servers and if he contains them in the coming years...then again my reasoning is Nadal could be double greatest and very very far ahead than Federer...
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 03:54 PM [Full View]
Xactly . Add DJokovic .also Nadal has more challenges in the form of Murray, Soderling, Berdych, Melzer all big game servers and if he contains them in the coming years...then again my reasoning is Nadal could be double greatest and very very far ahead than Federer..
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From: leosimha on 6th July 2010 03:57 PM [Full View]
yes...forgot Djokovic....and there could be many new challengers also for Nadal...
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From: omega on 6th July 2010 04:49 PM [Full View]
Never did I took the credit off Nadal. To do whatever he is doing is absolutely brilliant. All I was saying was, grass is never like before & you can look at the following link for further details.. Originally Posted by MADDY
Then how did a big serving berdych made it to finals.........assigning credit to surface and not to the man completes the surrendering to truth IMO......... Originally Posted by omega
That was long long ago. Wimbledon now is almost like mud (only missing part is the slide) with a good bounce & considerably less pace. Unless there is an evolution, I don't see anyone winning Wimbledon for the next unforeseen no. of years........... Originally Posted by MADDY
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
Even i would say, if grass was as fast in 90s, federer would have been shot out by a roddick or taylor dent....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M80SSMdiPs
Thank god, Pete doesn't have to play now, he may have been beaten by Nadal like a drum.
The reason why like Federer is simple, no one has been so versatile like Federer & so elegant. I just don't care how many GS he wins or won, its his game. Absolutely wonderfull to watch.
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From: omega on 6th July 2010 05:08 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by leosimha
Leo, I am not in for an argument for who is better between Fed & Nadal. Neither did I say both clay & grass are same. Over the few years grass has been considerably slowed down & once a skiddy surface is lot more bouncier these days. Yeah definitely Nadal is already on his way to be the GOAT no doubt.
To do all these permutations, what if Nadal had played last year FO, what if Nadal had played last year Wimbledon blah blah, I can ask, where was Nadal when Fed had reached 18/19 GS finals other than the 7 they had met, out of the 19 during the span. Fed was waiting on the other end, only to see it was not Nadal on the other end.
There are lot of discussions from either side all over the web.
I just don't care for these. A man who has made to GS Finals 18/21 times, SF 23/25 times has impressed me with his magic wand. You will be amazed to watch how many unbelievable points he has played on all surfaces consistently. There is no one who can come even close to him (offcourse till now). Pure bliss..
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From: Irene Hastings on 6th July 2010 05:25 PM [Full View]
Fed is 28 and Nadal is 23 right ?
In tennis , 5 years is a large gap . Probably we should not compare this 2 but Nadal was the only guy to challenge Fed.
However, considering that Nadal is hardly 23, his ability to win all the surfaces is simply amazing !
And, on Clay, I dont remember anybody other than Mats Wilander so consistent like Nadal !
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From: MADDY on 6th July 2010 06:59 PM [Full View]
Saying this "only" after Nadal's wins is what attracts arguements.......... Originally Posted by omega
Yea, maybe but pete is a fighter and never whined or cried foul....... Originally Posted by omega
Agree - federer is the most complete player "technically" we can ever see....... Originally Posted by omega
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From: omega on 6th July 2010 07:43 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Saying this "only" after Nadal's wins is what attracts arguements.......... Originally Posted by omega
Yea, maybe but pete is a fighter and never whined or cried foul....... Originally Posted by omega
Agree - federer is the most complete player "technically" we can ever see....... Originally Posted by omega
Maddy,
I have been saying this for the past 4 years atleast. I hope you are not saying Darren Cahill...
So the problem you have with Fed, is that he cried after AO 2009 loss. Lets wait for Nadal to reach that no. & see how he holds.
So, who is the one, who has to constantly look at his box to get some morale support, taking medical timeouts when opposition looks strong ??
Saying that hardcourts are bad for knees, all courts should be either grass or clay etc etc..... You can go on & on............
Did you see, who has made perfect adjustment to his game to win in all surfaces....................
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 6th July 2010 09:39 PM [Full View]
Omeha,
Maddy, Originally Posted by Maddy
Enna idhu vamba irukku? Neenga dhaan Nadal grass courtlaye win pannittaaru, adhanaala greatest nu innuendo potteenga. Omega was just replying to that. And this court discussion has been going on for while here...
Court-a blame panradha Nadal-e panraarunga!
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From: ajithfederer on 6th July 2010 10:21 PM [Full View]
24.
Originally Posted by Irene Hastings
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From: ajithfederer on 6th July 2010 10:25 PM [Full View]
Excuse me.
Nadal was defeated by Soderling. He wasn't there in Wimbledon. There is a lot of difference between defeated and not there.
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: ajithfederer on 6th July 2010 10:26 PM [Full View]
Crying foul ????
He has cried even after winning wimbledon for the first time too. If anybody is crying foul its Nadal who has been asking for less hard court events for the last 2 years.
Originally Posted by MADDY
Saying this "only" after Nadal's wins is what attracts arguements.......... Originally Posted by omega
Yea, maybe but pete is a fighter and never whined or cried foul....... Originally Posted by omega
Agree - federer is the most complete player "technically" we can ever see....... Originally Posted by omega
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From: Sanjeevi on 6th July 2010 10:28 PM [Full View]
For those who rate Nadal better than Roger, please compare atleast after two years or in worst case after Nadal took US open title 
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From: ajithfederer on 6th July 2010 10:34 PM [Full View]
What the deuce?. Then what should i do for Nadal who is asking for less hard courts and more clay and grass courts. Slap in his face eh?. Give some respect to players and their opinions. Already we have 3 clay courts 1000 Events and 1 slam. Even Grass is reduced to Mud these days and he still asks for more clay events.
No Nadal show eh?. He was injured and he didn't play. Get your facts right again. Nobody stopped him from playing. Originally Posted by leosimha
Originally Posted by leosimha
True. Let's see if Nadal can win 5 consecutive titles in Wimbledon. For me till now the King of Grass is Sampras and Federer who have won 7 and 6 titles respectively. I repeat again Wimbledon of the 90's>>>>> faster than the 2000's and 10's to come.
Ok. Let's see whether he can hold on to his ranking consectively for like say 2 years. 237 Weeks is a lot, mate. Originally Posted by leosimha
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 08:07 AM [Full View]
ask berdych Originally Posted by ajithfederer
ANyways, that was for sampras......i know nadal cribs but i seldom see federer accepting defeats gracefully......
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 08:15 AM [Full View]
when federer amassed 6 titles on the same 'MUD' nobody raised concerns esp after 2 days of his victory........they only appreciated his greatness etc.......but when nadal wins and we are happy he won it on a different surface then surface 'concerns' and attributing nadal's success to slow surfaces surfaces........sorry bala, ungalakku eppadi federero adhe madhiri dhaan engalakku nadal - im still sure winning on grass is winning on grass not clay...... Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Omeha,
Maddy, Originally Posted by Maddy
Enna idhu vamba irukku? Neenga dhaan Nadal grass courtlaye win pannittaaru, adhanaala greatest nu innuendo potteenga. Omega was just replying to that. And this court discussion has been going on for while here...
Court-a blame panradha Nadal-e panraarunga!
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 08:32 AM [Full View]
and yea as Leo puts it if grass=clay and are not 'alien' surfaces then:
Why is federer not able to win as much titles on clay like grass
And why do other clay courters never make it in wimbledon like nadal does?
Omega - i dont have any problems with federer, im just reacting to all mud thrown on sampras/nadal in which process i became a nadal fan as well
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From: omega on 7th July 2010 08:49 AM [Full View]
First grass is not= to clay. Off the late is has started to behave closer to clay. Typically prior to 2001-2002 grass was very skiddy, low bouncing, causing it very difficult for returners to have a good return. Because of this skiddy nature, even a serve in the 120's could gather pace after it bounces, and a player with volleying skills could pounce on the weak return. You could witness how Bjorn Borg had volleyed during his days in grass & had never stepped inside the baseline while at clay. Post 2001, the bounce is higher with reduced pace (because of the harder surface) which gives ample time for baseliner to hit a shot, resulting in even a great volleyer to stay baseline & exchange shots. Originally Posted by MADDY
Fed is not able to win in clay only because he has to contend with arguably the best clay courter ever. Even then 4 straight Final appearance in FO is by no means a small effort, when all Sampras could do was one SF appearance.
Why other claycourters don't do well in Wimbledon is simply they are inconsistent. Again, let me reiterate, its never easy to do what Nadal is doing. He literally is a wall out there, returning ball after ball.
No one is throwing mud on either Pete or Nadal. To me they both never adjusted (came out of their comfort zone actually) & were doing what they do best (Pete on the offensive end, Nadal on the defensive end).
If only Pete could have been a little patient (altered his game plan slightly) he could have won FO for sure. It was like, he knew only one way to play & never cared for what the surface demanded. They both are very one dimensional.............
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From: omega on 7th July 2010 08:52 AM [Full View]
OMG, how did I miss this.......Are you serious?? Originally Posted by MADDY
Then how did a big serving berdych made it to finals.........assigning credit to surface and not to the man completes the surrendering to truth IMO......... Originally Posted by omega
That was long long ago. Wimbledon now is almost like mud (only missing part is the slide) with a good bounce & considerably less pace. Unless there is an evolution, I don't see anyone winning Wimbledon for the next unforeseen no. of years........... Originally Posted by MADDY
its a surface thats completely alien to Nadal and he has won it twice now - i'm tempted to call him the greatest tennis player ever - an athlete of highest order
Even i would say, if grass was as fast in 90s, federer would have been shot out by a roddick or taylor dent....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 09:35 AM [Full View]
+1..
Originally Posted by omega
First grass is not= to clay. Off the late is has started to behave closer to clay. Typically prior to 2001-2002 grass was very skiddy, low bouncing, causing it very difficult for returners to have a good return. Because of this skiddy nature, even a serve in the 120's could gather pace after it bounces, and a player with volleying skills could pounce on the weak return. You could witness how Bjorn Borg had volleyed during his days in grass & had never stepped inside the baseline while at clay. Post 2001, the bounce is higher with reduced pace (because of the harder surface) which gives ample time for baseliner to hit a shot, resulting in even a great volleyer to stay baseline & exchange shots. Originally Posted by MADDY
Fed is not able to win in clay only because he has to contend with arguably the best clay courter ever. Even then 4 straight Final appearance in FO is by no means a small effort, when all Sampras could do was one SF appearance.
Why other claycourters don't do well in Wimbledon is simply they are inconsistent. Again, let me reiterate, its never easy to do what Nadal is doing. He literally is a wall out there, returning ball after ball.
No one is throwing mud on either Pete or Nadal. To me they both never adjusted (came out of their comfort zone actually) & were doing what they do best (Pete on the offensive end, Nadal on the defensive end).
If only Pete could have been a little patient (altered his game plan slightly) he could have won FO for sure. It was like, he knew only one way to play & never cared for what the surface demanded. They both are very one dimensional.............
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 09:36 AM [Full View]
omega - i have attended tennis coaching classes and have played with my frnds for a while - so u neednt go into detailed training session on surfaces behave......
There is no disagreement on 'fact' that federer is technically 'complete' player we can ever see.........nadal, sampras have weaknesses and are not as complete as feddy.....so again dont waste ur time repeating it - i agree 100% ......
My grouse is inconsistency in raising concerns abt surface and general quality of players in fray......i have never seen a post saying 'oh yea fed won on mud' after any of his wimbledon titles.......its only when nadal wins, people start jumping - i still remember federer fans attributing surface as reason for his epic final victory in wim'2008......i find it pretty lame and sort of excuse for a phenom like nadal......
Nadal/sampras know what they had to do and did it successfully.....they were clinical and knew how to switch off their tormentors........their extraordinary temperament is why im their fan........nadal is expanding a bit more by winning wimbledons and def roger in aussie open - they are truly champions in my book.....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 09:45 AM [Full View]
How many good clay courters are there in the first place?. Enna comedy panringa?. How many win clay court events in the first place.That Roger is the second best clay courter now is a sad truth.. Why go even that far look at the H2H between Nadal and Federer?. Why it is so dominant. Nadal wins almost everything in CLAY. He has 5 Clay slams in 6 years and 13 Masters 1000 titles in clay. There is nobody else in history who has done that. My point is there is nobody else in contention for Nadal to be called a clay courter.
In the reverse I can ask you the same too. Why doesn't Nadal win many hard court events and why he cribs about changing hard courts. His best US Open defense is semis. Why does he have a problem playing Hard courts?. Roger has his weakness and Rafa has his.
Originally Posted by MADDY
Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 10:02 AM [Full View]
To all Nadal fans
Wimbledon head groundsman Eddie Seaward himself acknowledges that they have altered ground conditions to suit different players winning wimbledon.
http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.co...d-of-the-lawn/
"“You’re getting the longer rallies,” Seaward said. “You’re getting different people winning the court championship, you’re getting different players coming through, which is good, I think.”
Clay-court specialists, who once shunned Wimbledon, have been lured back.
Seaward oversees a small company of groundskeepers, numbering 16 at the height of Wimbledon, when they trim the grass on every court by a fraction of an inch each morning.
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From: MADDY on 7th July 2010 10:13 AM [Full View]
Other clay court players(There are yaa, calling nadal as only clay court player is trying to diminish nadal's achievements on clay too Originally Posted by ajithfederer
) - Not winning wimbledon, atleast making it to semis etc - simply bcos nobody is as determined as nadal.........
On surfaces, clay and grass are different - thats wat i was telling there.......on players, federer is more complete - i agreed 100 times......my frustration is Why are these points raised only after nadal GS win......it sort of dampens our celebrarions and victory moment, if you guys havent already realised...... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:11 AM [Full View]
agreed. but he wasn't mentally (fit) there to play. Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Excuse me.
Nadal was defeated by Soderling. He wasn't there in Wimbledon. There is a lot of difference between defeated and not there.
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:13 AM [Full View]
hmm...good point...but not an effective one... Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
For those who rate Nadal better than Roger, please compare atleast after two years or in worst case after Nadal took US open title
Nadal has won grand slams 2 more than roger federer and 3 less than Bjorn Borg at his age of 24. Yes.
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:16 AM [Full View]
+2 (My Two Hands Raised) Originally Posted by MADDY
ask berdych Originally Posted by ajithfederer
ANyways, that was for sampras......i know nadal cribs but i seldom see federer accepting defeats gracefully...... point to be noted...
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:23 AM [Full View]
According to my opinion a Player who can play on Faster Courts can/must/should easily adjust to Playing on Slower Courts...so Roger could have done that change effectively if he is the BEST.... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
True. Let's see if Nadal can win 5 consecutive titles in Wimbledon. For me till now the King of Grass is Sampras and Federer who have won 7 and 6 titles respectively. I repeat again Wimbledon of the 90's>>>>> faster than the 2000's and 10's to come.
Originally Posted by leosimha
But a Player who knows to play only on Slower Courts (again according to some persons here) has a great challenge in adjusting to Playing on Faster Courts....but Rafa has done that change EFFECTIVELY by IMPROVING his GAME....whereas till date Roger hasn't improved his game on Slower Courts...very bad transition...
Rafa has gone from Strong to Stronger to becoming STRONGEST...by Improving his Game each and every tournament, each and every year...THAT IS RAFA NADAL.....
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:25 AM [Full View]
Have you played on Wimbledon Grass Courts to say that it has been reduced to Mud? Originally Posted by ajithfederer
What the deuce?. Then what should i do for Nadal who is asking for less hard courts and more clay and grass courts. Slap in his face eh?. Give some respect to players and their opinions. Already we have 3 clay courts 1000 Events and 1 slam. Even Grass is reduced to Mud these days and he still asks for more clay events.
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:27 AM [Full View]
+2 again I have raised my 2 HANDS..... Originally Posted by MADDY
when federer amassed 6 titles on the same 'MUD' nobody raised concerns esp after 2 days of his victory........they only appreciated his greatness etc.......but when nadal wins and we are happy he won it on a different surface then surface 'concerns' and attributing nadal's success to slow surfaces surfaces........sorry bala, ungalakku eppadi federero adhe madhiri dhaan engalakku nadal - im still sure winning on grass is winning on grass not clay...... Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Omeha,
Maddy, Originally Posted by Maddy
Enna idhu vamba irukku? Neenga dhaan Nadal grass courtlaye win pannittaaru, adhanaala greatest nu innuendo potteenga. Omega was just replying to that. And this court discussion has been going on for while here...
Court-a blame panradha Nadal-e panraarunga!
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:33 AM [Full View]
+2 again my 2 HANDS raised.... Originally Posted by MADDY
nobody can put it in better words than these....
that's were we need to look at A REAL TRUE CHAMPION - RAFA NADAL...though I agree that Federer is Classic Complete Player...
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 11:34 AM [Full View]
I am kind of done with the Roger-Rafa debate. Rafa is a truly great tennis player. I am on the side of Roger so I wouldn't concede yet that he is greater than Roger but he is frighteningly capable of being an efficient and succesful tennis machine and can easily surpass Roger's statistical achievements. And that surely will give him enough claim on GOAT status. We, Roger Fans, ofcourse will always have the edge in "beauty" contests. And I guess Rafa fans will debate that point, too.According to my opinion a Player who can play on Faster Courts can/must/should easily adjust to Playing on Slower Courts
This is the cold, plain fact of future staring at us.
Having said that the quoted thought here flies opposite to facts.
One of the best grass courters ever, and a thriver in fast surfaces, Pete Sampras was never a force to reckon with in Clay. Whereas, a baseliner like Agassi actually won Wimbledon. Similarly, Lendl came very close to winning wimbledon while his grass court contemporaries Becker and Edberg werent half as succesful in Paris.
So, traditionally, it has been easier for baseliners to make impact in Wimbledon than for fast courters to make an impression in Paris.
Considering that, that Roger could have had 3-4 French Open titles except for a phenomenal clay court talent called Nadal, is mind-boggling. Rafa's Wimbledon wins prove that there is only one man capable of stopping him even in Grass.
We have an unique pair of champions - and the sheer maginitude of their success is what is dwarfing the rest of the field. In that sense, the arguments against these two that they had a weaker field than yesteryear champions is a straw man argument. The rest of the field is weaker just because these two make them seem so.
I prefer Roger(but then I prefer the losers Holland(74,78), Brazil(82,90) etc for their beauty content in Football, too so that shows my preference is for which aspect of sport) but we must all not bring down these two great champions
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 11:39 AM [Full View]
come on...even Rafa Nadal coming to 4 Wimbledon Finals and winning 2 out of it...is it not great (50% success rate)? It is much greater than Federers 1 FO win out of 5 FO finals (a mere 20% success rate)... Originally Posted by omega
because here people rate Grass surface to be Superior than Clay surface...
so Nadal wins on the basis of Success %....
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From: Irene Hastings on 7th July 2010 11:40 AM [Full View]
Federer will be the greatest IMO if he beats Nadal in French Open.
Nadal is the most complete clay court player we have seen. Let Fed do that.
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 11:56 AM [Full View]
This kind of understanding only you possible Maddy. Pinringa.
Originally Posted by MADDY
Other clay court players(There are yaa, calling nadal as only clay court player is trying to diminish nadal's achievements on clay too Originally Posted by ajithfederer
) - Not winning wimbledon, atleast making it to semis etc - simply bcos nobody is as determined as nadal.........
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:00 PM [Full View]
Thats not the point we are discussing. In terms of pace Wimbledon has considerably reduced in pace.
Originally Posted by leosimha
Have you played on Wimbledon Grass Courts to say that it has been reduced to Mud? Originally Posted by ajithfederer
What the deuce?. Then what should i do for Nadal who is asking for less hard courts and more clay and grass courts. Slap in his face eh?. Give some respect to players and their opinions. Already we have 3 clay courts 1000 Events and 1 slam. Even Grass is reduced to Mud these days and he still asks for more clay events.
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:02 PM [Full View]
I can only take it as your opinion.
Yeah and thats why he is crying for less hard court events right. Pleasseee Originally Posted by leosimha
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Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:03 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
Name some other clay courters in this era please. I am dying to know your answers..
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:06 PM [Full View]
I again reverse this question to you. Not even one final us open appearance in all these years?. At-least Fed came in 4 finals 1 semi and won one FO. If at all Nadal wants to win USO this is his best chance as Del Potro is not around.
Originally Posted by leosimha
come on...even Rafa Nadal coming to 4 Wimbledon Finals and winning 2 out of it...is it not great (50% success rate)? It is much greater than Federers 1 FO win out of 5 FO finals (a mere 20% success rate)... Originally Posted by omega
because here people rate Grass surface to be Superior than Clay surface...
so Nadal wins on the basis of Success %....
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From: raajarasigan on 7th July 2010 12:08 PM [Full View]
Gustvao Kuerton Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Maddy,
Name some other clay courters in this era please. I am dying to know your answers..
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:12 PM [Full View]
ajithfederer, Nadal is a great athlete player and he has tendinitis...so he is asking for lesser hard courts which are not suitable for the knees...but if you see he is not speaking for himself...he is speaking on behalf of all the tennis pro on the circuit...more hard court tournaments can prove fatal for tennis pro knees....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:13 PM [Full View]
And Nadal fans don't be too early to call Nadal as somebody as great in hard courts. He has to achieve a lot to come there. Roger has 9 slams, Pete has atleast 7 and Agassi has 6. Nadal is just in the starting block.
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:16 PM [Full View]
@ajithfederer,
I am talking on Clay (FO)/Wimbledon (Grass) per se...
Nadal might not be a complete player cause of Hard Courts....where as Roger has won on all surfaces...and on clay only last year
Nadal is only improving from game to game, tournament to tournament, year to year....
And Roger Federer...though he is the BEST.....he is having a GREAT FALL....HUMPTY DUMPTY HAD A GREAT FALL...which I don't want to see....
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:19 PM [Full View]
who has ever told that Nadal is great in hard surface...sure we do know he has a lot of miles to go ahead...and he has lots of challenges in the form of physical fitness, players in the coming future etc etc.... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
vut Federer didn't have any challenge from the players front as nobody fought with him like NADAL did....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:20 PM [Full View]
I am sorry but that is his problem. He should have changed his approach in HC. Playing a defensive baseline approach all the time won't work in hard courts. He has to change his approach. IMO, that was why he lost to Del Potro last year. And on top of that I don't see other players asking for such changes.
Originally Posted by leosimha
ajithfederer, Nadal is a great athlete player and he has tendinitis...so he is asking for lesser hard courts which are not suitable for the knees...but if you see he is not speaking for himself...he is speaking on behalf of all the tennis pro on the circuit...more hard court tournaments can prove fatal for tennis pro knees....
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:21 PM [Full View]
and the same can be said of Federer to change is approach on Clay Courts and against left-handed players... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
I am sorry but that is his problem. He should have changed his approach in HC. Playing a defensive baseline approach all the time won't work in hard courts. He has to change his approach. IMO, that was why he lost to Del Potro last year.
Originally Posted by leosimha
ajithfederer, Nadal is a great athlete player and he has tendinitis...so he is asking for lesser hard courts which are not suitable for the knees...but if you see he is not speaking for himself...he is speaking on behalf of all the tennis pro on the circuit...more hard court tournaments can prove fatal for tennis pro knees....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:23 PM [Full View]
Yeah but he didnt ask to shut down all the clay events right.
Originally Posted by leosimha
and the same can be said of Federer to change is approach on Clay Courts and against left-handed players... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
I am sorry but that is his problem. He should have changed his approach in HC. Playing a defensive baseline approach all the time won't work in hard courts. He has to change his approach. IMO, that was why he lost to Del Potro last year.
Originally Posted by leosimha
ajithfederer, Nadal is a great athlete player and he has tendinitis...so he is asking for lesser hard courts which are not suitable for the knees...but if you see he is not speaking for himself...he is speaking on behalf of all the tennis pro on the circuit...more hard court tournaments can prove fatal for tennis pro knees....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 12:25 PM [Full View]
He is not from this era-nga. Agreed he won 3 FO's but he disappeared into oblivion after 2001 and he is 33 now.
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Gustvao Kuerton Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Maddy,
Name some other clay courters in this era please. I am dying to know your answers..
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 12:31 PM [Full View]
enakkennamO Nadal will win US open this year and shut people who are questioning his hard court credentials-nu thONudhu. innum oru 2 maasam avarOda Hard Court skills-ai kindal adikkalAm, though
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From: Irene Hastings on 7th July 2010 12:43 PM [Full View]
My point is this . Fed always had the problem of beating a quality player on Clay while he was the greatest on Grass. Nadal beat him convincingly on grass. Is it not a decisive point to say that Nadal is the best. Originally Posted by Plum
enakkennamO Nadal will win US open this year and shut people who are questioning his hard court credentials-nu thONudhu. innum oru 2 maasam avarOda Hard Court skills-ai kindal adikkalAm, though
Hardcourt > IMO knowing Nadal's pursuasive traits, he will definitely win sooner.
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 12:45 PM [Full View]
Greatness cannot be shut inside a capsule as small as you are prescribing. That is a very simplistic view.Fed always had the problem of beating a quality player on Clay while he was the greatest on Grass. Nadal beat him convincingly on grass. Is it not a decisive point to say that Nadal is the best.
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From: Irene Hastings on 7th July 2010 12:47 PM [Full View]
Plum,
Nadal had beaten Fed in Wimbledon when he ( Fed ) was in prime form no ?
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:49 PM [Full View]
Plum sir, I can't understand shakesspear english...enakku Tamil English-la sollunga...adhuve podhum... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:50 PM [Full View]
exactly and he almost beat him to death in the year 2007.... Originally Posted by Irene Hastings
but have we ever seen the reverse of Federer doing to Nadal on Clay....no ways...
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 12:56 PM [Full View]
I wonder what Maddy has to say to this latest Fed bashing - Nadal has an upper hand in 1-1 rivalry and Clay. Just that aspect is being highlighted and based on that, it is claimed that Nadal is greater than Federer already. Then, why shouldnt Fed fans do the same based on his all-court excellence?
I regret trying to douse this fire by equating Nadal and Fed earlier in the thread as it seems to me that while Maddy was probably reacting(as he does ) to what he saw as Nadal bashing, the others on that side seem to be hell-bent on using limited facts to tarnish Federer.
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:57 PM [Full View]
why would he say that? does federer have any problems related to physical fitness not to play on clay courts....but nadal had said because of knee problems and for the players which would prove fatal when they retire... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Yeah but he didnt ask to shut down all the clay events right.
Originally Posted by leosimha
and the same can be said of Federer to change is approach on Clay Courts and against left-handed players... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
I am sorry but that is his problem. He should have changed his approach in HC. Playing a defensive baseline approach all the time won't work in hard courts. He has to change his approach. IMO, that was why he lost to Del Potro last year.
Originally Posted by leosimha
ajithfederer, Nadal is a great athlete player and he has tendinitis...so he is asking for lesser hard courts which are not suitable for the knees...but if you see he is not speaking for himself...he is speaking on behalf of all the tennis pro on the circuit...more hard court tournaments can prove fatal for tennis pro knees....
all said and done....i don't mean to belittle federer's achievements..but we're talking about head to head....according to number of GS..Federer might be the Greatest/Best...but when it comes to Nadal....Federe is no where near..coz he has lost against Nadal on all the surfaces....
wish US Open to be a Federer-Nadal rivalry....and if Nadal wins....then people will start saying that Federer is not in top form...if not in top form...then how come he in finals....and losing to player like Nadal who doesn't like Hard courts... (read it like Aus Open)....
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 12:59 PM [Full View]
I am tired of this argument - munbE indha thread-il sonnEnbut nadal had said because of knee problems and for the players which would prove fatal when they retire...
"appO pala varushamA hard courts-la veLayAdi pala titles vAngi injure AgAma irukkaravan ellAm kENaiyanA?"
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 12:59 PM [Full View]
Plum, there is no Fed bashing....we do agree Federer is a great and complete player....but nobody here acknowledges the fact about Nadal and his dominance over the great player called Federer...
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 01:00 PM [Full View]
hmm...valid point...but nadal is talking in the coming future....only nadal can speak of it...as he has come to the top...not the lesser knowns.... Originally Posted by Plum
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From: Plum on 7th July 2010 01:00 PM [Full View]
To expand that, playing in hard courts is not an invitation for injury. Playing in a certain manner might be. Retrievers might succeed on Clay and also might succeed on Hard Courts but they have to pay the price of injury - which means that those who have an easy style of play which helps them win in Hard courts without injury - they deserve credit, too boss instead of going to mummy and crying that "No hard courts, please!"
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 01:10 PM [Full View]
Leo, I am sorry that Nadal has knee problem but the tour is like that. I am sure if he changes his game plan injuries wont happen again.
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From: leosimha on 7th July 2010 01:25 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 7th July 2010 01:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: omega on 7th July 2010 04:57 PM [Full View]
Agreed. He surely can win US Open too. The sooner the better. Originally Posted by Plum
enakkennamO Nadal will win US open this year and shut people who are questioning his hard court credentials-nu thONudhu. innum oru 2 maasam avarOda Hard Court skills-ai kindal adikkalAm, though
Who knows, USTA may come with a plan to protect all tennis pro's knees pretty soon via chaning the surface, may be by adding a cushion layer or so..........Then there will be again a case to argue.
Even last year after Wimbledon win, I had said that Roddick deserved to win more than Fed, as Fed didn't bring his A game.
After winning 2007 Wimbledon Fed himself said that Nadal deserved as much as he did to win.
When a person lose, obviously he is going to come up with his reasons, athukkukaaha thokkalainnu aahidummaa....
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 09:54 PM [Full View]
He Can win and that is not my point again.
Even if he wins this year don't read too much into it unless Rafa wins HC grandslams and Masters 1000 HC events on a regular basis. Roger put in performances of the decade day in and day out when he won 5 consecutive US Opens from 04-08. My point is there are other hard court specialists who have done more to stake their claim on such supremacy.
Originally Posted by Plum
enakkennamO Nadal will win US open this year and shut people who are questioning his hard court credentials-nu thONudhu. innum oru 2 maasam avarOda Hard Court skills-ai kindal adikkalAm, though
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From: ajithfederer on 7th July 2010 09:58 PM [Full View]
My take on Rafa is this:
He is the greatest in clay (Borg has 6 slams alright but Rafa can surpass them easily) very good in grass and still needs to work a lot in Hard court events. Greatest ever stake-kku ellam oru 3-4 years kalcihu than solla mudiyum.
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From: Plum on 8th July 2010 11:40 AM [Full View]
Oh I dont think I dispute that. I am just predicting that he will actually improve his hard court game and push himself to the GOAT status. Will-power-ku poRandha paya! Originally Posted by ajithfederer
My take on Rafa is this:
He is the greatest in clay (Borg has 6 slams alright but Rafa can surpass them easily) very good in grass and still needs to work a lot in Hard court events. Greatest ever stake-kku ellam oru 3-4 years kalcihu than solla mudiyum.
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From: leosimha on 12th July 2010 02:30 PM [Full View]
Link - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rer.wimbledon/Posted: Tuesday July 6, 2010 1:47PM ; Updated: Tuesday July 6, 2010 2:09PM
Bruce Jenkins>INSIDE TENNIS
Federer's excuses, dismissive remarks at Wimby invite criticism
Story Highlights
Roger Federer made dismissive remarks after last week's loss to Tomas Berdych
The press and fans were quick to criticize Federer for being an ungracious loser
Many fans rushed to his defense, but the tear-down process of a great is inevitable
Roger Federer's comments in the wake of last week's quarterfinal loss to Tomas Berdych have prompted widespread criticism.
A few years ago at Wimbledon, during the peak of his reign, Roger Federer admitted that he liked to read the newspapers. He'd get up nice and early in London and buy a stack, just to see what was being written about him.
About 10 daily newspapers were (and still are) available there, so Federer could digest a veritable novel on his greatness. There wasn't much to say but "unbeatable," or "nobody ever played this well," so it tended to be pretty fun reading.
I wonder if Federer even passed by a newsstand last week after he was eliminated by Tomas Berdych. If there's a truism about storied athletes, it's that a tear-down process is inevitable, and we're at the heart of the Crush Federer movement -- especially after an interview session featuring dismissive remarks and the excuse of injury. These were some of the reactions, all from journalists with experience and perspective:
"The press conference was embarrassing, the words of a man in denial."
-- longtime Wimbledon chronicler Art Spander
"The excuses fell from the king's sky like acid rain...so put-upon, so unlucky...to see Federer fighting reality so hard was disturbing."
-- Matt Cronin, TennisReporters.net
"It strayed dangerously close to rationalization."
-- Greg Garber, ESPN.com
"His reaction -- that he was dogged by back and leg injuries that hampered his movement -- was particularly ungracious."
-- Neil Harman, the Times of London
"Federer's aura of infallibility at the All England Club? It's long gone, up the hill in the Wimbledon village, having a pint at the Dog & Fox."
-- Mark Hodgkinson, Telegraph
"He was sour, sarcastic, self-pitying, the portrait of an ungracious loser."
-- Linda Robertson, Miami Herald
"The day that Roger Federer says that the 'quarters is a decent result' for him at the All England Club, we really have reached the end of an era."
-- Steve Tignor, Tennis.com
"It wasn't his back that failed, and it wasn't his leg. It was his nerve. That's how it is when a great champion's determination and courage begin to ebb. And, like the proverbial cuckold, he's always the last to know."
-- Pete Bodo's TennisWorld
All in all, Mary Carillo concluded, "I heard him give a bunch of different interviews, and he kept bringing up the injuries, which is not like Roger. I feel bad. Berdych played the match of his life and had to defend his win."
It's worth noting that whenever a section of Internet comments came into play, fans rushed to Federer's defense -- passionately, almost savagely. How dare writers even question the great man, after all he has done? And there's much to be said for that stance. Can't we allow Federer a few moments of exasperation? He's never been a player to make irrational statements, take fraudulent bathroom breaks, call for a trainer to change the mood, or downplay the performance of an opponent. Surely he has played hurt before, without mentioning it, and it's not as if he was speaking angrily. For years, Federer's mannered honesty was something we greatly appreciated. As one reader noted, "This is the most gentlemanly player ever. He's been at the top for so long, people may unconsciously take pleasure in his fall from grace."
In the end, there is no definitive answer. Federer doesn't deserve to be the court jester, nor should he be reviled, necessarily, for aberrant remarks. We do know for certain that he is vulnerable, a condition he hasn't experienced since his tempestuous teenage years, and that he has drifted well out of character. If Federer loses a tough match at Toronto or Cincinnati, he'll once again enter a tough room full of unsettling questions.
As an unabashed fan of Federer's talent and a first-hand witness to several of his major titles, I'd love to see him win the U.S. Open and confront his critics with that deadliest of weapons, the scoreboard. I would hesitate to predict such a thing, however. Six months of hard evidence suggests otherwise.
Some other thoughts on Wimbledon:
Martina Navratilova is calling Serena Williams' serve the best she's ever seen, and that's a popular notion among insiders. Pam Shriver, speaking on BBC television, went as far as to call it "the single greatest shot in the history of women's tennis," but that might be a stretch. I'd suggest Chris Evert's two-handed backhand (changed everything, in every corner of the world), Monica Seles' version (unprecedented power), Steffi Graf's revolutionary forehand and Navratilova's volleys from both sides, with Billie Jean King's not far behind . . . When the imposing Marat Safin beat Sampras to win the 2000 U.S. Open, many felt it signaled the arrival of a new era, full of huge, big-serving guys who would take control of the sport through sheer power. The notion seemed plausible enough as the likes of Goran Ivanisevic, Richard Krajicek and Mark Philippoussis made their mark, but the real shotmakers -- Andre Agassi, Federer and Rafael Nadal -- maintained the sport's fine aesthetic. Now there's a new wave of big hitters, more graceful and deadly than ever before, with Berdych, Robin Soderling and Juan Martin del Potro (currently out with a wrist injury) leading the way. Federer seems unable to stem the tide, although he insists he can "handle those guys" when he's healthy. It would be nice to see Federer and Andy Murray keep up with Nadal in staving off the big-blast giants. There has to be life beyond the three-shot point.
Enjoyed hearing Murray so open in his admiration after losing to Nadal: "I love watching him play. He's my favorite to watch, and I hope he wins. He can take as long as he wants on any point, I don't care. I just love watching the guy play." . . . If anyone had a right to deride Wimbledon's lack of a fifth-set tiebreaker, it was John Isner, who was so mentally and physically thrashed after his 183-game marathon against Nicolas Mahut, he was hurried out of Wimbledon in the next round. But Isner likes the rule, and he's right. There's nothing like Wimbledon tradition, and it's something to be embraced, not overturned. "It's the way it's always been here," he said. "There's no need to change it." . . . Somebody show Andy Roddick a photo of Berdych as he posed with Nadal during the post-match ceremony. Look closely, Andy: No hat. Berdych took the damn thing off. Play in a hat if you must, but when you're down there in the presence of royalty, being photographed for the pages of history, reveal your countenance and especially don't turn the hat around backward. My friend and colleague Scott Price has a great way of describing what that look says to people: "Hey, I'm an idiot." And Roddick is hardly that. If he ever gets a chance to do that again, let's hope he shows up as himself.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz0tSMmBGBE