Topic started by darshan (@ 61.1.110.8) on Mon Oct 21 11:46:06 .
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go to mumbai,go to chennai or delhi or Kolkata the poor indian in the que before USA/canada/UK OR developed european country's consulate stands like a beggar.he is pushed by do takiya guards,the officer interviewing him sometimes does not even look at him.
in USA's attack on bosnia a chinese man was accidently killed.Upon hearing this the chinese people became so angry that they beat up american ambassador in china,one proud chinese guy gave a a typical hard kick (martial arts type) on the US ambassador's back.
a warren andersson kills over thousands of indians
and can still manage to escape easily.
our neighbours r self respected r we?

Responses:

• From: BAB (@ cache-dr10.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Nov 7 10:39:23
  
  Self respect comes from the ability to feed your family and provide them with the minimal opportunity to help themselves in adulthood. If the India government cannot provide these opportunities people must seek them elsewhere for the world is one nation.
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Nov 8 21:01:52
  
  darshan Saab:
  
  
  Had they not stood in que infornt of UA embassy and got visa to become an Yankee...they would have spent the rest of their lives standing in millions of ques in India:
  
  Ques for getting water, milk, sugar, edible oil, rice, flour, tickets for train, school admission for kids..and que everywhere in every day of life...
  
  its upto you to choose between standing for a while in front of Yakees Embassy or to spent rest of your life in ques in India!!!
  
  
• From: ormila (@ firewall1.uwindsor.ca) on: Fri Nov 29 18:15:44
  
  I do not know what has become of India. It allowed it self to run too low before realisation and action. It took 500 years to realise what the British was doing and get them out. The country is still suffering from deploration, political and economic instaliblity like many others where the British set foot. India is still not taking control of its resources and sorting out the problems with the caste system, created for one thing but used another by the British. There is need for population control education and education fo women. No doubt these are problems that would have longed been addressed over centures ago, but there has been no opportunity where India had to find itself again.
  
  See my other other comments under heading, what Britain owes to each east Indians. Such claims should be persued and without delays and this should be a mtter for the politicans rather than individual efforts. There is no point chasing after the winds in leaving India in large numbers. It takes years to achieve and be recognised as someone when you enter the western world as a non-white foreigner. You are made a second class citizen and it takes time to climb the ladder although there are opportunies. In effect, the achievements remain relative to that of a country like India.
  
  In addition, one can find it hard to live as a true Hindu in the western world. You lose it before you can realise it. Yes, there is material and status success and as I said, it is relative. And in order to even achieve that, the spiritual and moral growth degenerates. To advance in stauts and achieve in material success which go hand in hand in the west, you have to live like the Romans do when you are Rome and what it takes to live as the Romans is not the same as what as it takes to live as east Indians. Before you know it, you lose everything that is worth as an east Indian and as a Hindu. I do not mean to put down Roamsn, but I am just using the proverb to illustrate my point.
  
  One have to be extremely conscious of this and it is a hard task to keep abreast of it. Only a warning.
  
  
  
  
• From: BAB (@ cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Nov 30 16:25:43
  
  We can still be Hindus and always Indians if we make adaptations to living in the West.
  
  Many Hindus have lived in Trinidad, Guyana, Surinam, Fiji, and South Africa for over a hundred and fifty years, and have preserved much of Hinduism and the Hindu among the majority of Indians living in these parts of the world.
  
  Yes, many of these diaspora Indians have adapted to English or Western ways and styles and sometimes it is hard to tell if thy are Indians as we know Indians, but many too are proud to remain Hindus and practice Hindu dharma.
  
  We can stop being Hindus away from our native homes but we cannot hide being Indians no matter how hard we try. An India is an Indian is an Indian, and when push comes to shove, all Indians will be violated or discriminated against when Hindus become the target of Christian hate.
  
  The Jews can teach us a lot about adaptations. They were almost made to feel irrelevant, but they still cling on to their religion and persist in teaching their children the importance of being Jewish.
  
  Holding on to certain aspects of culture with needed adaptation is what is needed by Hindus and Indians who live in the West and even in some parts of India.
  
  
  
• From: ormila (@ firewall4.uwindsor.ca) on: Sat Nov 30 19:19:20
  
  
  Bab,
  
  I am glad you see thse points and you can share them. Wjhat I have to add is that it was founf surprising that the east indians who left india long time ago, like in Guyana pratice Hinduism the same way as in the old days. The religion of hinduism and its culture is somewhat lost in India. India went through many changes not known to the east indians in Guyana and so the religion and culture in Guyana is intact. Hindu pandits are contacting those from Guyana for information and guidance.In Canada, the hindus in particular from Guyana and Trinidad have established many temples and hinduism is praticed with ZEST.
  
  

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