Topic started by Chandra on Sun Nov 7 15:32:57 .
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I am interested in surveying the typical moods evoked by various ragas as experienced by the forum visitors.
I am to start with interested your (or as articluated to you by the direct experience of people you know) experiences with the following ragas:
harikambodhi
natabhairavai
iru madhdhima thodi
sankarabharanam
karaharapriya
thodi
kalyani

Also:
mohanam
madhyamavathi
cencurutti
hindholam
kambodhi
sahana


Thanks.

Responses:

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• From: Chandra (@ user-38lccbu.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Fri Nov 19 23:03:14
  
  From the ancient Tamil treatise tholkAppiyam :
  nURpA 1197:
  nahaiyE, azuhai, iLivaral, marutkai,
  accam, perumidham, vehuL, uvahai enRu
  appAl ettE meyppAdu enba.
  
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  «îºõ ¦ÀÕÁ¢¾õ ¦ÅÌÇ¢ ¯Å¨¸¦ÂýÚ
  «ôÀ¡ø ±ð§¼ ¦ÁöôÀ¡Î ±ýÀ.
  
  
  The eight are:
  laughter
  crying
  disgust
  wonder
  fear
  pride/arrogance
  anger
  happiness
  
  Actually these are not really feelings per se. These are technically speaking "meyp pAdu" where mey = body; pAdu = expression.
  i.e. manifest physical expression of the emotions.
  This classification is more suitable for dramaturgy.
  
  For the inherent emotions, we need to look at the classifications by tholkAppiyam canonically expressed through the five main love situations:
  patient waiting for the lover
  union
  separation/elopement
  infidelity
  disappointment/pathos
  
  
  These were mapped one to one to paNs (pAlais or, in present day terms, mELakarthas), terrain, season, time of day etc.
  so as to match the mood.
  The beauty is that the pAlais captured the quintessential emotions of the appropritae theme.
  The present day Sanskrit names are given in parens.
  patient waiting = mullai (= harikAmbOdhi)
  union = kuRinjci (= natabhairavai)
  separation/elopement = pAlai (=sankarAbharaNam)
  infidelity = marudham (=karaharapriya)
  disappointmnet/pathos = neydhal (=thOdi)
  
  These are related by paNNup peyarththal (or grahabedha)! Actually there are seven the two that were left out are for unmatched love.
  
  
  Chandra
  
  
  
• From: Venky (@ 1cust24.tnt11.hou3.da.uu.net) on: Sat Nov 20 03:59:49
  
  nahaiyE, azuhai, iLivaral, marutkai,
  accam, perumidham, vehuLi, uvahai enRu
  
  Chandra: neengaLE ippadi samaskrudham pEsara maadhiriyE thamizh-la ezhudhalaamaa ? indha kaalaththula 'ka/ga'-vukku badhilaa 'ha' payan paduththaradhu pudhuppOkkaa pOchchu (udhaa.: aahaadhu, pOha, sOham, dhaaham etc...). idhukku appuram Chandra-vE ezhudhittaar-nu ellaarum appadiyE pEsa aarambichuduvaanga ;-))
  
  
• From: Chandra (@ user-38lcc3a.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Sat Nov 20 11:34:21
  
  venky:
  :-)))
  I am not surprised by this reaction.! :-))
  I was doing for the first time and expected somebodyy like you or balaji to say so!
  
  Dr.Na.Ganesan from your town, Houston, says the intervocalic (in between two vowels or vowelized consonants)
  "ka" is not exactly "ga" but more like "ha" or between "ga" and "ha" (which is well known) but his point is that we must represent it correctly in English transliteration. Northern Tamilnadu people tend to pronounce it closer to "ga"; but of course they are also other ones who tend to soften the wird initial "ka" to "ga" (kudhirai -> gudhirai), "pa" to "ba" (palli->balli), "cha" to "ja" (chUdu ->jUdu) etc!
  
  We have always had the "h" sound as in Aydham.
  
  We should continue this important discussion in the tlit or some such forum.
  [I was for a while using the OTL-like convention with "ka" everywhere. But it was not prefered by many folks and it was understandable since it was too far removed from actual pronuncitaion. Actually it would end up affecting the pronunciataion in the long term!]
  
  Thanks for noticing it!
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ hud02a01.ml.com) on: Fri Dec 10 10:27:23
  
  Friends,
  Does any one know any site where I could find Aaroganam and Avaroganams of ragas. If so, could you please email me!
  
  Thanks,
  Saravanan.
  
  
• From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152) on: Fri Dec 10 13:10:39
  
  http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ksanthan
  
  
• From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152) on: Fri Dec 10 13:13:23
  
  To get straight to the list:
  http://www-bsac.EECS.Berkeley.EDU/~ksanthan/Music/ragalist.txt
  
  
• From: ragmalika (@ ) on: Thu Jan 15 00:27:04
  
  hi everybody!
  i wanna post a question but didnt know how to...so here i am typing into the response box!! Anyway, here's my question. i'm trying to find out the moods and emotions that can be expressed thru raagas. I'm part of a team thats performing a classical dance ballet showing the life of a woman, the various stages and the emotions corresponding to each phase. If someone cud post a response on this site and mail to the following address i'd be really really grateful- f2000692@bits-pilani.ac.in. Will keep checking for any updates. thanx!!!
  
  

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