shyama shastri
Topic started by vidya (@ 202.54.33.29) on Tue Jun 20 03:40:58 .
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shyama shastri too deserves a separate thread.
for his krithis,raga usages etc.
i would like to know :
1.exactly how many tamil compositions of shastri are there.
2.other than smt.vidya shankar who else learnt
from his shishya parampara?
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- From: K. Shyam (@ net245-151.its.yale.edu)
on: Fri Aug 25 12:36:14 EDT 2000
Nadopasaka:
<<>>
I felt the same way when I saw 2 Sankarabharams among the kritis listed. I also got the impression from reading Prof. S.'s description that these were all sung in the Meenakshi Amman sannidhi on the same day--all the more reason why it seems odd.
- From: Lakshman (@ hse-kit-ppp38839.sympatico.ca)
on: Sat Sep 2 14:50:27 EDT 2000
Nado et.al:
I don't know if you were aware that Sarojadala netri and Devi mina netri are twin songs, one in telugu and the other in samskrit. The notations for these songs are the same. As well, Birana varalichchi and Himadrisute are also twin songs in Kalyani.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ afppp48.buffnet.net)
on: Sat Sep 2 15:51:09 EDT 2000
Lakshman, please check this. Both seem to be in telugu and also in Adi tala. If you can check , what are the 9 krities of the syamaSastri Navaratnamalika set in Madurai ? Thanks
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp2536.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Sun Sep 3 10:49:21 EDT 2000
Nado:
I went through the three volumes of Shyama Shastri's kritis by Vidya Shankar but could only find eight kritis on Madurai Minakshi. They are: Devi mina netri-Shankarabharana-Adi, Nannu brova lalita-Lalita-Chapu, mariveregati-Anandabhairavi-
Chapu, Mayammayani ne-Ahiri-Adi, Minalochana
-Dhanyasi-Chapu, Rave parvatarajakumari-
Kalyani-Jhampa, Sarojadala netri-Shankarabharana
-Adi and Devi shri padasarasamule-Kambhoji-Adi.
- From: Ramaprasad K V (@ 204.154.176.49)
on: Tue Sep 5 11:13:46 EDT 2000
Lakshman.
Thnaks for the info on dEvI mIna nEtri. This
was news to me ! Could you please post the
sAhitya ?
Thinking aloud, does the nIlAmbari mAyamma
belong to the navaratna mAlika ?
Ramaprasad
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp31.buffnet.net)
on: Tue Sep 5 11:36:01 EDT 2000
KVR, An SS Nilambari seems to be 'brova vamma' and refers to an Ekambresha, which may or may not make it related to Meenakshi.
- From: Ramaprasad K V (@ 204.154.176.49)
on: Tue Sep 5 13:18:54 EDT 2000
Thanks Nadopasaka. I have heard it just once, and
got mixed up with the sAhitya. Now I remember
"mAyamma" comes at the end of the pallavi.
Ramaprasad K V
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp10273.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Tue Sep 5 14:12:21 EDT 2000
KVR & Nado:
There is no song in Nilambari by Shyama Shastri with the starting words Mayamma. There is one in Natakuranji, apart from the one in Ahiri.
Brovavamma is in Nilambari and is on Kanchi Kamakshi.
Here are the words for Devi mina netri-Shankarabharana-Adi
pallavi: dEvI mInanEtri brOva rAvE dayacEyavE brOvarAvamma (dEvI)
anupallavi: sEvincavAri kellanu cintAmaNiyai yunnArA (dEvI)
caraNam 1: bAlA nIvE gatiyani ninnE cAlA nammina nApai parAkElA dayacEya nIkidimElA divyAmbA kAlAdivirANI sadguNa shIlA kIravANi trilOkajananI dEvI mahEshvarI bhavAni (dEvi)
2: ambA mukha nirjita shatadhara bimbA rakSita dEvadAtavammA nata-nija-suta-guha-herambAmbA shyAmaLAmbA bimbAdhari gaurI kAdamba vihAri ambA kambukaNThI himAshaila vrkSa pAlikA dEvI bAlAmbikA amba (dEvi)
3: vANI ramA vandita rudrANI nIsATevaru kalyANI shyAmakrSNanutA kIravANI sharvANI vINA vinOdini shrI cakrakONa nivAsini gIrvANa vandita padAravindA shivA dEvI kAtyAyani ambA (dEvi)
- From: S (@ wwwgate281.motorola.com)
on: Thu Sep 7 01:59:46 EDT 2000
>>>Nado et.al:
I don't know if you were aware that Sarojadala netri and Devi mina netri are twin songs, one in telugu and the other in samskrit. The notations for these songs are the same. As well, Birana varalichchi and Himadrisute are also twin songs in Kalyani<<<
Lakshman - I do not think that sarojadalanetri and devimeenanetri are twin songs insofar as their music goes - at least not the present popular versions. sarojadalanetri starts with on the upper sa ( or madhya ni in some versions ) while devimeenanetri starts on ma. The tala eduppus are also different, with the saroja... kriti having sama eduppus for pallavi, anup and charanam, and the devimeenanetri having a 4 akshara ( melkalam ) skew for pallavi and charanams. Does any book say that they are supposed to be twin-kritis ? If so, the varnamettu of one of the kritis must have changed over time.
Of course, biranavaralichi and himadrisute are twin kritis.
- From: K. Shyam (@ pcp01253014pcs.hamden01.ct.comcast.net)
on: Sat Mar 30 12:10:15
The two versions I've heard of "Rave Himagirikumari" (swarajati in Todi) are of Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer and recently of T.M. Krishna. Whose version is more authentic?
- From: K. Shyam (@ pcp01253014pcs.hamden01.ct.comcast.net)
on: Sun Mar 31 07:10:57
Re: Rave Himagirikumari
I just discovered that SSI's version is closer to what is found in Vidya Shankar's book and TMK's is almost identical to that found in T.K. Govinda Rao's book. If I remember correctly, VS is a descendent of SS. Does that necessarily make her version more authentic?
- From: bb (@ ouroboros.siebel.com)
on: Mon May 13 01:30:42
An interesting snippet on Shyama Sastri:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/stories/2002051000870600.htm
- From: vidya (@ dialup-166.90.239.225.dial1.detroit1.level3.net)
on: Fri May 17 02:05:20
I'd like to know if there are any available recordings of the following list of compositions :
karuNAnidhi ilalO - tODi/tishra gati Adi
brOva samayamidE dEvI - punnAgavarALi/Adi
nannu brOvarAdA vEgamE nIvu - gauLipantupuraharajAyE pAlaya mAM - gauLipantu
dayajUDa maHnci - jaganmOhini/mishra cApu
kAmAkSi karuNAkaTAkSi (gitam) - pharaj/tripuTa
santataM ennai rakSippAi (gItam) - pharaj/Adi
janani natajanaparipAlini - sAvEri/Adi
sArasAkSi sadA (gItam) - sAvEri/tripuTa
shrIpatimukha viracita - sAvEri/Adi
nAmanavini vinu (varNam) - saurASTraM
AdinamuniHnci pOgaDi - Anandabhairavi/tripuTa
mahilO ambA - Anandabhairavi/Adi
sAmini rammanavE (varNam) - Anandabhairavi/aTa
pArvati janani (gItam) - bhairavi/khaNDa maThyaM
pAlimpavammA paramapAvanI - mukhAri/Adi
kAmAkSi lOkasAkSiNI (gItam) - madhyamAvati/tripuTa
bRhannAyakI nannu - madhyamAvati/tishra maThyaM
dEvI nI pAdasArasamulE - kAmbhOji/Adi
ninnE nammiti - kEdAragauLa/Adi
dEvi mIna nEtri - shaHNkarAbharaNaM/Adi
pAlayAshu mAM paradEvatE - Arabhi/tripuTa
nannu brOvarAdA O jagadambA - janaraHnjani/tripuTa
kAmAkSi nAtO vAdA - bEgaDa/Adi
sAmi ninne nammitirArA - bEgaDa/Adi
pahi mAM shrI rAjarAjEshvari - nATa/rUpakaM
karuNajUDavammA vinammA - varALi/mishra cApu
dEvI nannu brOvavammA - kalyANi/jhampa
nIvE gatiyani (varNam) - kalyANi/tishra maThyaM
parAmukhamEnammA pArvatiyammA - kalyANi/tripuTa
rAvE parvatarAjakumArI - kalyANi/jhampa
shaHNkari shaHNkari - kalyANi/aTa
shrI kAmAkSi kAvavE - kalyANi/Adi
- From: Lakshman (@ 64.187.33.39)
on: Fri May 17 13:10:53
Here are some of the songs from your list available in cassettes. I don't know about CDs though.
Karunanidhi-Todi-Hydrebad Brothers (AVM 60B 9081), M.S.Sheela (Sangeetha 6ECDB 592), Subhashini Parthasarathy (Kalavardhani REC 042) and O.S.Tyagarajan (HMV SCHV 847888)
Dayajuda-Jganmohini-C.N.Kritika (Kalavardhani REC 012)
Kamakshi loka-Madhyamavati-Sulochana Pattabhiraman (Sangeetha 6ECDB 390)
DEvi ni-Kambhoji-C.N.Kritika (Kalavardhani REC 012)
Palayashumam-Arabhi-Sulochana Pattabhiraman (Sangeetha 6ECDB 390)
Nannu brova-Janaranjani-C.N.Kritika (Kalavardhani REC 050) and Maharajapuram Santhanam ( AVM 45B 192/193)
Kamakshi-Begada-Sulochana Pattabhiraman (Sangeetha 6ECDB 390)
Pahimam shri-Nata-Sulochana Pattabhiraman (Sangeetha 6ECDB 390)
Karuna juda-Varali-C.N.Krithika (Kalavardhani REC 012) and Sudha Raghunathan (AVM 45B 508/509)
Rave parvata-Kalyani-Sulochana Pattabhiraman (Sangeetha ^CEDB 390)
- From: Anupama R. (@ pbastion.univ-angers.fr)
on: Thu May 6 06:45:08
Is it possible to get artist, C.N.krithika's email id or address?
- From: s (@ cpe-66-168-113-24.ma.charter.com)
on: Sun Sep 19 20:40:28
is it possible to get c.n krithika email id
- From: vijaya venkataraman (@ dhcp024-208-155-187.insight.rr.com)
on: Thu Oct 7 17:18:48
does anyone have/ know where I may find Semmangudi srinivasa iyer's rendition of the Ata thala Varnam 'Sami ni pai marulukonnadeera' in raagam 'anandabhairavi'
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