well, why does he/she exist in two disguises I wonder?!Quote:
Devapriya = Uppuma!!
Is that because if nobody listens to his/her bs then, he/she can listen to him/herself as if another hubber :?:
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well, why does he/she exist in two disguises I wonder?!Quote:
Devapriya = Uppuma!!
Is that because if nobody listens to his/her bs then, he/she can listen to him/herself as if another hubber :?:
Well...
Solomon how do you explain the presence of the word Jesus in vedas ? does it mean that the vedics were christiansQuote:
Solomon wrote: The name Siva was coined after Sangam period where as Rig in 10 has it. Please Show me where Lingam Worship is mentioned in Sangam Litr
Friends,
Mala starts her techniques,Tholkappiyar has very clearly tells 4 types of words- Natural words, Twisted words, Directinal Words from 12 Directions and Sanskrit words.
Sanskrit words must be Tamilised by avoiding Sanskrit letters. So Siva is absorbed in to Tamil, and Uppuma's quote proves that MM.Aadigal regards that way only.
As Fsg named MM.Aadigal in Arabic Thread we find MMAadigal quotes there, but MALa can well answered here- instead of wasting time.
I QUOTE from MM.Adigal-"thamizar matham" Page number -¸¹Õ i.e.,135.Here he says, close to 2nd Century A.D.,those worshipped SIVA (appan) Pridominantly AND those Who worshipped Umai or Parvathi (ammai) Predominantly got separated and I now quote tamil in full:
þùÅ¢Õ §ÅÚ ÌØÅ¢Éâø «ôÀ¨É Ží̧š÷, «õ¨Á¨Â Ží̧š¨ÃÔõ, «õ¨Á¨Â Ží̧š÷ «ôÀ¨É Ží̧š¨ÃÔõ þÆ¢òÐô §Àº¢ì ¸Ä¡õ Å¢¨Çì¸Ä¡Â¢É÷. þ즸¡û¨¸ô §À¡Ã¢ø þÕ ÌØÅ¢ÉÕõ ¦ÀñÀ¢ÈÅ¢¨Âì ̨ÈÅ¡¸ì ¸Õ¾×õ §Àº×ó ÐÅí¸§Å, «õ¨Á¨Â Å½í¸¢Â ÌØšâø ´Õ ¦ÀÕõ À̾¢Â¡÷ ¸¼×¨Çô ¦ÀñÅÊÅ¢ø ¨ÅòÐÅÆ¢À¡Î Òâ¾ø ¾ÁìÌ þÆ¢¦ÅÉì ¸Õ¾¢ «õ¨ÁÔõ «ôÀɡ츢 «ÅüÌ Á¡§Â¡ý, ¾¢ÕÁ¡ø ±ýÛõ ¦ÀÂ÷¸¨Çô Ò¨ÉóРŢ¼Ä¡Â¢É÷.
We know Tholkappiyam and Sangam Lit. has extreme Vishnu worship, but See MM.Aadigal who to substantiate his Saivite belief, made Unwarranted abuse against Vaishnavam and gave as Research Opinions. Friends if somebody reads Pavanar or MMaadigal, see how Unnecessary attacks on Certain Tamils and Inidans are made, which cannot be put in a Decent Forums.
Professor HART on Burrowing of Sanskrit words in to TAMIL AS FOLLOWS:
lNeither Sanskrit nor Tamil are particularly old in the world scheme of things. Sanskrit is documented earlier than Tamil.
Sanskrit has borrowed quite as much from Dravidian as Dravidian has from Sanskrit. Tamil has borrowed more words from Sanskrit than Sanskrit has from Dravidian.
Both languages are carriers of wonderful and rich intellectual and literary traditions. The only way to appreciate either language is to read these literatures and spend a lot of time pondering them.
Friends- I QUote from Tamil Arignar R.Shanmugasundaram-
§Å¾ì ¸¼×û ¯Õò¾¢Ã§Éº¢ÅÉ¡É¡ý ±ýÀ¾¢ø ³ÂÁ¢ø¨Ä. §Åòì ¸¼×û ÁÕ¾õ ÓÕ¸ý É¡ý. «¸ò¾¢Â÷ §Å¾¾¢Öõ ÜÈôÀθ¢È¡÷. Å¢‰Ï×õ þó¾¢ÃÛõ §Å¾ì ¸¼×Ç÷. ±É§Å âÂì ¸¼×û ¾Á¢úì ¸¼×¦ÇÉô À¡ÌÀ¡Î ¦ºö¾ø «÷ò¾ÁüȾ¡Ìõ. Àì 128
vEthak kadavuL uruththiraneesivanaanaan enbathil aiyamillai. veethk kadavuL marutham murugan aanaan. agaththiyar veethathilum kuuRappadukiRaar. vishNuvum inththiranum veethak kadavuLar. enavee aariyak kadavuL thamizk kadavuLenap paahupaadu seythal arththamaRRathaakum. pak 128
I do not want to repeat, please see Arabic Vedic Past for Sivalinga Worship Thread.
More details follows.
Mahadevan, Do you want me to respond for your Question to Solomon- about the Dirty Techiniques of Missionaries- NO Name of Jesus is is Vedas, is the truth. Are do you agree PaulThomas position of Bible Inspired Tirukural and Saivam and Vaishnavam is Christian?
Friends,
Idiayappam Uncle wanted to Know where is Bible is Sivalingam worship and Aibshekams done and Undle Guessed Psalms.
Uncle it is verymuch in Genesis and Exodus.
And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for A PILLAR, AND POURED OIL UPON THE TOP OF IT. Ge 28:18
And he called the name of that place Bethel: but the name of that city was called Luz at the first Ge 28:19
There are many more such that can be shown.IT is the Hatred that spoils your views. And God here is called El-Shaddai, a pure Tamil word for the name of VEDIC RUDRA Siva
"And God here is called El-Shaddai, a pure Tamil word "
At this rate Devapriya is going to say that Hebrew is nothing but Tamil :)
Whether you agree or not, Dharmapuri Adheenam Sri La Sri Shanmuga Desiga Gnanasambantha paramachaariyar did not disagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by devapriya
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Originally Posted by devapriya
I raised some issues but you have your own tricks whereby u avoid.
He never mentioned Sanskrit. Do not try to edit Tolkappiyam.Quote:
Tholkappiyar has very clearly tells ................... Sanskrit words.
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So Siva is absorbed in to Tamil, and Uppuma's quote proves that MM.Aadigal regards that way only
Siva is aborbed into Sanskrit. That's the way all Tamil exponents including AdigaL regard. Siva comes from Sivaththal, meaning chemmai or redness, symbolic of righteousness. "chEyOn" from chE = red, chevvEL from chE=red. Just pass your "elementary Tamil course" and you know this.
It has been answered. Why do you bring up something already done with. Your quote here has no relevance.Quote:
As Fsg named MM.Aadigal in Arabic Thread we find MMAadigal quotes there, but MALa can well answered here- instead of wasting time.
It is correct. By 2nd c ACE, the concept of Ammaiappan arose. So what?Quote:
I QUOTE from MM.Adigal-"thamizar matham" Page number -¸¹Õ i.e.,135.Here he says, close to 2nd Century A.D.,those worshipped SIVA (appan) Pridominantly AND those Who worshipped Umai or Parvathi (ammai) Predominantly got separated and I now quote tamil in full:
Vishnu is from Tami: viNNu, the sky god of Dravidians, and ViNNu (sky) is blue. Adopted by the North later. AdigaL did not attack any religion. Please do not lie.Quote:
We know Tholkappiyam and Sangam Lit. has extreme Vishnu worship, but See MM.Aadigal who to substantiate his Saivite belief, made Unwarranted abuse against Vaishnavam and gave as Research
Prof Hart may have his own opinion. But it has been proven by M. Lahovery and his team and also other linguists that 1/3 of Sanskrit vocab is clearly Dravidian (Tamil) and Dravidian had tremendously influenced Sanskrit in other aspects too beside the lexical.Quote:
lNeither Sanskrit nor Tamil are particularly old in the world scheme of things. Sanskrit is documented earlier than Tamil.
I would rather be guided in this respect by Lahavery (researcher ) than other academicians (who are teachers only). But it is true that koil kurukkaL borrow a lot of words from Sanskrit.Quote:
Tamil has borrowed more words from Sanskrit than Sanskrit has from Dravidian.
How else - any language!!Quote:
The only way to appreciate either language is to read these literatures and spend a lot of time pondering them.
There are hardly any Ariyak kadavuL. All are Dravidian. There are no Indo-European kakavuL.Quote:
Friends- I QUote from Tamil Arignar R.Shanmugasundaram-
vEthak kadavuL uruththiraneesivanaanaan enbathil aiyamillai. veethk kadavuL marutham murugan aanaan. agaththiyar veethathilum kuuRappadukiRaar. vishNuvum inththiranum veethak kadavuLar. enavee aariyak kadavuL thamizk kadavuLenap paahupaadu seythal arththamaRRathaakum. pak 128
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devapriya,Quote:
Originally Posted by devapriya
I think it is about time to stop this comment in every post of yours! :P
We all have the same skill like you have to see whose techniques are what using our own brain. :P
Devapriya, Solomon, Uppuma and all those anti-tamil vedic stooges can't give a single quote from the Vedas - to support their view that Siva is Vedic..
There is no Siva in the Vedas ..
End of argument!
Corollary to that is: Sivam<>Sivan is Tamil word; Sivan worship originated in Tamilnadu/ (Dravidian country).Quote:
Originally Posted by Idiappam