Continued from part 2!!!
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...503507#1503507
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Super * Rajnikanth's Classic, Kuselan (III)!
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From: Nerd on 21st August 2008 01:04 AM [Full View]
Awesomeeeeee
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From: Avadi to America on 21st August 2008 01:12 AM [Full View]
Thamiz,
can you add the link showing prequel to this thread?
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From: thamiz on 21st August 2008 01:33 AM [Full View]
Done!
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
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From: m_23_bayarea on 21st August 2008 01:37 AM [Full View]
Classic, eh? :P
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From: Nerd on 21st August 2008 01:48 AM [Full View]
Thalaivar oru scene-la vandhaalum classic dhaan Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
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From: thamiz on 21st August 2008 01:52 AM [Full View]
I seriously think this movie is much better than so many rajni masalas which are super hit!
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From: m_23_bayarea on 21st August 2008 01:58 AM [Full View]
Except that it's not a Rajini movie per se...
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From: m_23_bayarea on 21st August 2008 02:02 AM [Full View]
I think if they had sold the movie as a normal one (with Pasupathy as the Lead), there wouldnt have been such chaos... If they had sold it for a Nominal amount, they would have made more profits cos then the "Rajini presence" would have helped the movie in making that profit! They should not have used it as the core marketing strategy...
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From: thamiz on 21st August 2008 02:13 AM [Full View]
You are right bay. Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
I think if they had sold the movie as a normal one (with Pasupathy as the Lead), there wouldnt have been such chaos... If they had sold it for a Nominal amount, they would have made more profits cos then the "Rajini presence" would have helped the movie in making that profit! They should not have used it as the core marketing strategy...
Superhit subramaniyapuram made 1 crore. Flop Kuselan made 3 crores!
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From: thamiz on 21st August 2008 06:41 AM [Full View]
Thanks Originally Posted by Dilbert
BTW Thamizh.. !! Great Heading..
You know it is unfortunate, Rajni's one of the outstanding performances (without any over-action in the climax) has never been properly apprecited even by decent critics!
To me, it is just a good addition to Rajni movies' list.
I dont have anything to complain about his acting in this movie!
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From: m_23_bayarea on 21st August 2008 06:58 AM [Full View]
Thalaivar entering a premier show in a Hyderabad theatre...
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Rajnikanth -Kuselan Premier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-LF_...eature=related
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From: Dilbert on 21st August 2008 07:28 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thamiz
Thanks Originally Posted by Dilbert
BTW Thamizh.. !! Great Heading..
You know it is unfortunate, Rajni's one of the outstanding performances (without any over-action in the climax) has never been properly apprecited even by decent critics!
To me, it is just a good addition to Rajni movies' list.
I dont have anything to complain about his acting in this movie!
By Far one of the best in recent years.. !!
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From: rookie007 on 21st August 2008 07:59 AM [Full View]
watched the movie here in Montreal .......
I can say that the 15$ I spended for this movie ... it was well worth it ... Thalivar ROCKED to CORE .... I don't think anyone else would have done a climax scene so natural ....... Touched my heart ... can't wait to get the hold of the Ayngaran's DVD 
Over all ... will give this movie 6/10 ........
just for Thilvar's and pasupathy's performance ......
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From: cm123 on 21st August 2008 10:58 AM [Full View]
kuselan is defenitely a treat for fans and watchable for others. Originally Posted by rookie007
watched the movie here in Montreal .......
I can say that the 15$ I spended for this movie ... it was well worth it ... Thalivar ROCKED to CORE .... I don't think anyone else would have done a climax scene so natural ....... Touched my heart ... can't wait to get the hold of the Ayngaran's DVD
Over all ... will give this movie 6/10 ........ just for Thilvar's and pasupathy's performance ......
except some vulgar comedy which takes place in every other tamil movie what is there to complain
and the following items could have been better.
1.First half comedy scenes..
2.Lead scenes for saral and om zarare songs
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From: SoftSword on 21st August 2008 01:35 PM [Full View]
More than Kuselan the movie, Kuselan DVD is rocking everywhere...
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From: RajaRam on 21st August 2008 05:48 PM [Full View]
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 21st August 2008 05:54 PM [Full View]
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 06:15 PM [Full View]
வாசு மறுப்பு:
ரஜினி தொடர்பாக புதிய காட்சிகள் எதையும் சேர்ப்பது குறித்த திட்டம் இப்போதைக்கு இல்லை என்றும் இப்படிப்பட்ட யூகச் செய்திகள்தான் படத்துக்கு தேவையற்ற சங்கடங்களை ஏற்படுத்திவிட்டதாகவும் இயக்குநர் வாசு தெரிவித்தார்.
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Remake panra idea yedhavadhu vechurukkaro Vasu !
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From: Nerd on 21st August 2008 06:44 PM [Full View]
madam collections, red card, compensation pathi onniyumE sollaliyE Originally Posted by cm123
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From: thamiz on 21st August 2008 08:52 PM [Full View]
sathyam seems like not a hit. Is there any chance kuselan picks up slowly?
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From: ramdas2005 on 21st August 2008 09:31 PM [Full View]
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From: aditya_sub on 21st August 2008 11:20 PM [Full View]
Already Kuselan was picked up from the theatres quickly.
Originally Posted by thamiz
sathyam seems like not a hit. Is there any chance kuselan picks up slowly?
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From: Dilbert on 22nd August 2008 05:59 AM [Full View]
Kuselan lands Robot in trouble
Problems seem to surmount for Kuselan and all those even remotely associated with the film. Kuselan was produced by Kavithalaya and Seven Arts and was distributed by Pyramid Saimira. Owing to the film’s poor response, the Tamil Nadu Theatre Owners’ Association has been demanding compensation for the losses incurred by them. The theatre
Kuselan
owners also threatened that they would not screen any of the films produced by Kavithalaya and Seven Arts. Sensing trouble over this issue Kavithalaya sold the distribution rights of the two films that it has been producing – Krishna Leelai with Jeevan and Thiruvannamalai with Arjun in the lead – to Ayngaran International. This has redirected the ire of the theatre owners and distributors on Ayngaran International. The Theatre Owners are now contemplating to include Ayngaran International in the ban. If this happens, many films including Rajini’s magnum opus Robot would be in deep trouble, as Ayngaran International is producing the film.
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-21-08-08.html
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From: SoftSword on 22nd August 2008 11:24 AM [Full View]
room pottu yosikkiraanga... Originally Posted by Dilbert
Kuselan lands Robot in trouble
Problems seem to surmount for Kuselan and all those even remotely associated with the film. Kuselan was produced by Kavithalaya and Seven Arts and was distributed by Pyramid Saimira. Owing to the film’s poor response, the Tamil Nadu Theatre Owners’ Association has been demanding compensation for the losses incurred by them. The theatre
Kuselan
owners also threatened that they would not screen any of the films produced by Kavithalaya and Seven Arts. Sensing trouble over this issue Kavithalaya sold the distribution rights of the two films that it has been producing – Krishna Leelai with Jeevan and Thiruvannamalai with Arjun in the lead – to Ayngaran International. This has redirected the ire of the theatre owners and distributors on Ayngaran International. The Theatre Owners are now contemplating to include Ayngaran International in the ban. If this happens, many films including Rajini’s magnum opus Robot would be in deep trouble, as Ayngaran International is producing the film.
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-21-08-08.html
anyway good try...
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From: Raghu on 22nd August 2008 04:26 PM [Full View]
when Prabhu appeared in Kuselan, some guys in the cinema were saying
'Enna kodumai saar ithi
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From: ramdas2005 on 22nd August 2008 06:50 PM [Full View]
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From: Nerd on 22nd August 2008 07:00 PM [Full View]
The title Originally Posted by ramdas2005
And yes sify is pro-rajini 
And I don't think rajini attended saroja audio launch.
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From: Raghu on 22nd August 2008 07:20 PM [Full View]
enNa kodumai saar ithu? Originally Posted by ramdas2005
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From: thamiz on 22nd August 2008 07:39 PM [Full View]
nerd, raghu, bay, dibert, omega!!
One thing you should notice with all these kuselan flop story, NOBODY says anything bad about Rajni! The whole cine-businessmen repect him for his honesty as much as they used to!
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From: Nerd on 22nd August 2008 07:45 PM [Full View]
I don't think that would ever happen, thamiz
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From: Dilbert on 22nd August 2008 08:15 PM [Full View]
Thamizh / Nerd... Whatever be it Kuslean has turned into a costly mistake for Super*.
AFAIK : Ashiwini Dutta Kind of Producers are very greedy Businessmen, Associating with them and creating a hype and selling it to an huge amount.. pushing people to see a Non- Commerical Script by adding Masala.. was not a great idea, Added to that.. we have a Manga Director .. who more interested in masala than the core script.
1) Dolphin thingy
2) Aeroplane thingy
3) 9thara -Vvel thingy
etc etc..
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From: ramdas2005 on 22nd August 2008 08:27 PM [Full View]
I definitely agree with the Manga director part...also it did not make it in top 5 in andhra bo last week.
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Thamizh / Nerd... Whatever be it Kuslean has turned into a costly mistake for Super*.
AFAIK : Ashiwini Dutta Kind of Producers are very greedy Businessmen, Associating with them and creating a hype and selling it to an huge amount.. pushing people to see a Non- Commerical Script by adding Masala.. was not a great idea, Added to that.. we have a Manga Director .. who more interested in masala than the core script.
1) Dolphin thingy
2) Aeroplane thingy
3) 9thara -Vvel thingy
etc etc..
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From: Nerd on 22nd August 2008 08:29 PM [Full View]
And you believe greatandhra
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From: ramdas2005 on 22nd August 2008 08:48 PM [Full View]
I take the bo status reported by the media with a pinch of salt. I merely stated it with refrence to Ashwini Dutt,also i have been just following bo's reported by diff media sites, that's about it. Originally Posted by Nerd
And you believe greatandhra
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From: Avadi to America on 22nd August 2008 09:23 PM [Full View]
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From: thamiz on 22nd August 2008 11:11 PM [Full View]
What can we conclude from this nerd? Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: thamiz on 22nd August 2008 11:12 PM [Full View]
dilbert: I am not sure whether I would agree with you on this!
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From: Nerd on 22nd August 2008 11:13 PM [Full View]
Actually I don't know Originally Posted by thamiz
What can we conclude from this nerd? Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: vasanth2006 on 23rd August 2008 05:35 AM [Full View]
Rajini released the saroja's telugu audio..... Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: vikatan on 23rd August 2008 08:18 AM [Full View]
classic ?
Classic ? Manasaaktshi illama pesaadinga...
This joke is even sicker than the vadivel jokes of the movie....
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From: Avadi to America on 23rd August 2008 08:32 AM [Full View]
^^^^
Define classic in your terms?
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From: Dilbert on 23rd August 2008 08:37 AM [Full View]
Re: classic ?
Originally Posted by vikatan
Nangaoo.. Manasaaktshi .. veethachi..!! Unga kita irunda koncham kaadan kudungoo...
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From: rookie007 on 23rd August 2008 08:54 AM [Full View]
We are here talking about Thalivar's role and his acting in Kuselan .. who gives a damn about others .....Classic ? Manasaaktshi illama pesaadinga...
This joke is even sicker than the vadivel jokes of the movie....
Thalivar appeared for like 25 min and he rocked ...
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From: Nerd on 23rd August 2008 09:01 AM [Full View]
Vikatan ayyA, thappu pannittOm, mannichiRunga
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From: thamiz on 23rd August 2008 09:07 AM [Full View]
Re: classic ?
Who said I am joking?! Originally Posted by vikatan
Sicker???!!
Dont tell me how I should entitle my thread unless YOU ARE SICK!
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From: rookie007 on 23rd August 2008 09:39 AM [Full View]
Kuselan indepth analaysis by Vinojasan. !!!!!!
http://www.rajinifans.com/detailview.php?title=730
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EIuh4MvfGU...elan_DCR-1.jpg
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From: omega on 23rd August 2008 03:08 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rookie007
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From: omega on 23rd August 2008 03:34 PM [Full View]
குசேலன்பிரச்சனையை தீர்க்கும் ரஜினி!
கீகுகு இலவச நியூஸ் லெட்டர் பெற tடச்tண்கூச்ட்டிடூ ஆணிணிடுட்ச்ணூடுண்
கீச்டீடிணடி
மேலும் புதிய படங்கள்
ஒரு வழியாக குசேலன் பட விவகாரம் முடிவுக்கு வர ஆரம்பித்துள்ளது. குசேலன் படத்தின் நாயகன் ரஜினியே முன் நின்று இந்த நஷ்ட விவகாரத்தில் தீர்வு கண்டு திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர்களை திருப்தியோடு அனுப்பி வைத்திருக்கிறார்.
ஆனாலும் சிலரது அதிருப்தி முணுமுணுப்புகள் ஓய்ந்தபாடில்லை என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.
இந்தப் படத்தைத் திரையிட்ட பிரமிட் சாய்மிரா நிறுவன திரையரங்குகள் தவிர, மற்ற திரையரங்குகளின் உரிமையாளர்கள் தாங்கள் செலுத்திய மினிமம் கேரண்டி தொகையை எடுக்க முடியாமல் நஷ்டத்துக்கு உள்ளானதாகக் குரல் எழுப்பினர்.
படம் வெளியாகி 23 நாட்கள் மட்டுமே முடிந்திருந்த நிலையில், படம் ஓட அவகாசம் தராமல், மக்களைப் படம் பார்க்க வரவிடாமல் தடுக்கும் வகையில் தியரையரங்க உரிமையாளர்கள் வேண்டுமென்றே பிரச்சினை செய்வதாக தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் குற்றம் சாட்டினர்.
பதிலுக்கு, இந்த தயாரிப்பாளர்களுக்கு எதிர்வரும் நாட்களில் ஒத்துழைக்க மாட்டோம் என திரையரங்கு உரிமையாளர்கள் எச்சரித்தனர்.
இந்நிலையில் சென்னையில் திரண்ட இவர்கள் அனைவரும், தங்கள் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடுகட்ட ரஜினிகாந்த் உதவ வேண்டும் எனக் கோரினர்.
நேற்று மாலை ரஜினிகாந்தை அவரது அலுவலகத்தில் சந்தித்த திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர் சங்க நிர்வாகிகள், தங்களுக்கு 70 சதவிகித மினிமம் கியாரண்டி தொகையைத் திரும்பத் தர வேண்டும் எனக் கோரினர்.
இறுதியில் பிரமிட் சாய்மிரா அல்லாத திரையரங்குகளுக்கு மட்டும் விற்கப்பட்ட தொகையைக் கணக்கிட்டு, அவர்களிடம் பெற்ற மினிமம் கியாரண்டி தொகையில் 33 சதவிகிதம் வரை அதாவது 7 கோடி ரூபாய் வரை திருப்பித் தர ஏற்பாடு செய்வதாக ரஜினிகாந்த் உறுதியளித்துள்ளார். அதை பன்னீர்செல்வம் தலைமையிலான திரையரங்கு உரிமையாளர் சங்கப் பிரதிநிதிகளும் ஏற்றுக் கொண்டதாகத் தெரிவித்தனர்.
இந்தத் தொகையை ரஜினிகாந்த் செலுத்த வேண்டியதில்லை என்றும் தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் மற்றும் பிரமிட் சாய்மிராவிடமிருந்து வாங்கிக் கொடுத்தால் போதும் என்றும் இந்தப் பிரதிநிதிகள் கூறியுள்ளனர்.
ஆனால் பாலச்சந்தரிடம் எக்காரணம் கொண்டும் பணத்தைக் கேட்டு தொந்தரவு செய்ய வேண்டாம் என்றும், தானே அந்தப் பணத்தைக் கொடுத்து விடுவதாகவும் ரஜினி கூறியதாக திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர் சங்கப் பிரதிநிதிகள் தெரிவித்தனர்.
தற்போது பிரமிட் சாய்மிரா மற்றும் ஜிபி விஜயகுமார் இருவரும் இந்தத் தொகையில் ஒரு பகுதியைத் தர முன்வந்துள்ளனர்.
இதைத்தவிர பிரமிட் சாயம்மிராவின் சரோஜா படத்தையும் குறைந்த விலையில் தர ஒப்புக் கொண்டுள்ளார்களாம். நஷ்ட ஈடு வேண்டாதவர்களுக்கு மட்டும் சரோஜாவை முழுவதும் இலவசமாகத் தருவதாகத் திட்டம்.
ஒரு பிரிவினர் எதிர்ப்பு:
ஆனாலும் இந்த சமரசத் தீர்வுக்கும் சில திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர்கள் எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்துள்ளனர். தங்களுக்கு 75 சதவிகித தொகை வேண்டும் என அவர்கள் கோரியுள்ளனர். ஆனாலும் இப்பிரச்சினையை பேசித் தீர்த்துக் கொள்வதாக அறிவித்துள்ளனர்.
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies...-disputes.html
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From: Aravind_06 on 23rd August 2008 03:38 PM [Full View]
Lets talk about the best scenes of Kuselan.
The scene where Rajini talks to Nayanthara, and tosses the towel around his neck in style.
Conversation with Sundarrajan.
Rajini's speech at school.
Rajini with Pasupathy at his home.
Ultimately, the best scenes of the movie are the ones where superstar is there.
Meantime, it appears that the whole Cine world & Media is against Rajini. Even, the people who support Rajini are keeping Mum. Looking at the developments, it appears that Aandavan is dragging rajini into politics.
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From: omega on 23rd August 2008 03:42 PM [Full View]
This is exactly he might not want to happen. Whether he wants to jump into politics or not must be his decision. One cannot force upon him something, which unfortunately seems like the case. Originally Posted by Aravind_06
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From: Nerd on 23rd August 2008 07:29 PM [Full View]
Looks like the issue has been sorted out thanks to who else but the EMPEROR himself. Some greedy theater ownes are still whining, they need 90% settlement it seems.. Morons, even a Prashanth movie would collect that 10% amount.
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From: crajkumar_be on 23rd August 2008 07:31 PM [Full View]
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From: Vivasaayi on 23rd August 2008 07:33 PM [Full View]
appo embutu velaiku vithirupangannu yosichu paakanum. Originally Posted by Nerd
everything starts from the praise they sold.
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From: Nerd on 23rd August 2008 07:48 PM [Full View]
ivanunga kayyila figuru illiyAm, aanaal 70% vENumaam Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
aanaalum overaa pammuraainga
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From: thamiz on 23rd August 2008 09:10 PM [Full View]
Why only 70% loss.
Get the movie for FREE!!
What kind of businessmen these guys are!!!
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From: Avadi to America on 24th August 2008 02:36 AM [Full View]
did they share chandramukhi and sivaji profit with producers, and distributors?
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From: Dilbert on 24th August 2008 06:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thamiz
Why only 70% loss.
Get the movie for FREE!!
What kind of businessmen these guys are!!!
I have decided next Best investment (other than energy sector) is rajini movies..
No fear of loss.. If movie makes more than expected .. I get to keep all the profits.. if the movie fails to meet MG I will still get back by investment intact !!
Shame on Indian business circuit. Looking at all these things. as I posted once in DASA thread. atleast ASCAR was clear to take the chance whether my product is garbage or kohinoor Let the market decide. It paid off. !
Sultan? Robo? 200 cr at stake.. ! God save this market..!
BTW just happened to saw Tropic Thunder.. Tom Cruise.. Freaking awesome .. Rest of the cast..
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From: Nerd on 24th August 2008 07:28 AM [Full View]
Whoa! Excellent excellent article
சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் தகுதியை இழக்கிறாரா ரஜினி?
ஆகஸ்ட் 24,2008,00:00 IST
"சூப்பர் ஸ்டார்' ரஜினிக்கு இப்போது மீண்டும் சோதனைக்காலம். "குசேலன் படத்தின் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடுகட்டும் வகையில், பணத்தை திருப்பித் தர வேண்டும்' என தியேட்டர் அதிபர்கள் மற்றும் வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் எதிர்ப்பு குரல் எழுப்பியிருப்பதும், கன்னடர்களிடம் மன்னிப்பு கேட்டு தமிழர்களின் எதிரியாகிவிட்டதாக சித்தரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதும் தற்போது ரஜினியைச் சூழ்ந்துள்ள பிரச்னைகள். இந்த இரு விவகாரங்களையும் சர்ச்சையாக்கி ஆளாளுக்கு ரஜினிக்கு "அட்வைஸ்' கொடுத்து மகிழ்ந்து வருகின்றனர்.
ரஜினியைப் பொறுத்தவரை அவர் பேசினாலும் செய்தி, பேசாவிட்டாலும் செய்தி என்கிற உயரத்தில் மீடியாக்கள் அவரை வைத்துள்ளன. உள்ளொன்று வைத்து புறமொன்று பேசும் பழக்கம் ரஜினிக்கு கிடையாது. ஒகேனக்கல் பிரச்னைக்கான உண்ணாவிரத மேடையில், ஒவ்வொருவரும் தொடர்ந்து வெளிப்படுத்திய ஆவேசத்தின் தாக்கம் தான், "உதைக்க வேண்டும்' என்ற வார்த்தையாக ரஜினி வாயில் இருந்து வந்து விழுந்தது. பின்னாளில் அது சர்ச்சையாகவும் உருவெடுத்தது.
இந்த பிரச்னை ஓய்வதற்கு முன்பாகவே குசேலன் பட விவகாரம் கிளம்பியது. சிவாஜி படத்தை எடுத்த வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் சிலர் நஷ்டப்பட்டதாகவும், அவர்களை திருப்திபடுத்தும் வகையிலும், பாலசந்தருக்கு உதவும் வகையிலும் தான் குசேலன் படத்தில் நடிக்க ரஜினி ஒப்புக்கொண்டார். "குசேலன் படம் என் படம் அல்ல; அது பசுபதியின் படம்' என்று பட ரிலீசுக்கு முன்பே ரஜினி வெளிப்படையாக தெரிவித்தார். குசேலன் படப்பிடிப்பு நிலையில் இருந்தபோதே, சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம் 60 கோடி ரூபாய் என விலை வைத்து படத்தை வாங்கியது. 60 நிமிடங்கள் ரஜினி தோன்றும் படத்திற்கு 60 கோடி ரூபாய் என்று கோலிவுட் வட்டாரத்தில் அப்போதே பரபரப்பு ஏற்பட்டது. குசேலனில் ரஜினி தோன்றும் காட்சிகள், குறித்த விவரம் தெரிந்திருந்தும் அதற்கு பெரிய விலை கொடுத்து வினியோகஸ்தர்களும், தியேட்டர் அதிபர்களும் வாங்கினர்.
இப்போது, "குசேலன் படம் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூலைத் தரவில்லை' என தியேட்டர் அதிபர்கள், வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் எதிர்ப்பு குரல் எழுப்பியுள்ளனர். இது ரஜினி படம் என்று சொல்லி ஏமாற்றிவிட்டனர் என்பதுதான் அவர்களின் குற்றச்சாட்டு. இந்த விஷயத்தில் ரஜினியைத் தலையிடச் சொல்லி வற்புறுத்தி வருகின்றனர் இவர்கள். தமிழ்த் திரையுலகில் வினியோகஸ்தர்களும், தியேட்டர் அதிபர்களுமே ஒரு ஹீரோவின் தலையெழுத்தையும், சம்பளத்தையும் நிர்ணயித்து வந்துள்ளனர்.
ரஜினி, கமல், விஜய், அஜித் போன்ற ஸ்டார்களின் படங்கள் என்றால், பூஜையின் போதே கோடிகளைக் கொட்டிக் கொடுத்து இவர்கள் வாங்குவதால் தான், ஹீரோக்களின் சம்பளம் விண்ணைத் தொட்டது. இவ்வளவு விலை கொடுத்து வாங்கிய படங்கள் வசூலைக் குவித்தபோது, அதில் ஆதாயம் அடைந்தவர்களும் இவர்களே. அதே நேரத்தில், நல்ல படங்களை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கி, கொள்ளை லாபம் பார்த்த வரலாறும் இவர்களுக்கு உண்டு. "வைதேகி காத்திருந்தாள்' படத்தை கெஞ்சிக் கூத்தாடி அதன் இயக்குனர் ஆர்.சுந்தர்ராஜன் அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு விற்கச் செய்து ரிலீஸ் செய்தார். அந்த படம் சக்கைப்போடு போட்டு வசூலை வாரிக் குவித்தபோது அதன் பலன் இயக்குனருக்கோ, தயாரிப்பாளருக்கோ போய்ச் சேரவில்லை.
பாலாவின் இயக்கத்தில் உருவான "சேது' படம் பிரிவியூ தியேட்டரிலேயே 100 நாட்கள் ஓடி வேதனை படைத்த படம். பிரிவியூ பார்த்தவர்கள் எல்லாம் ஒதுங்கிக்கொள்ள, அந்தப் படத்தை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கி, படம் ஹிட் ஆனதால் பலரும் லாபம் பார்த்தனர். ஆனால், அந்தப் படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர், அடுத்த படம் தயாரிக்கக் கூட வழியின்றி நின்றது வரலாறு.[/b] சமீபத்திய வரவான "சென்னை -28' படத்தையும் மிகக் குறைந்த விலைக்கு வாங்கி பெருத்த லாபம் அடைந்தவர்கள் வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் தான்.
தமிழ்த் திரையுலகில் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூல் கிடைக்கவில்லை என்பதற்காக, முதன் முதலில் பணத்தை திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தவர் மணிரத்னம். "மெட்ராஸ் டாக்கீஸ்' தயாரிப்பில் உருவான "இருவர்' படம் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூலை கொடுக்காததால் அந்தப் படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர், இயக்குனர் என்ற முறையில், சத்தமில்லாமல் பலருக்கும் பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தார் மணிரத்னம். அடுத்ததாய், "பாபா' படத்தின் தோல்வியால் பாதிக்கப்பட்டவர்களுக்கு ரஜினி பணத்தை திரும்பக் கொடுத்த சம்பவம் நடந்தது.
ரஜினியின் இந்த பெருந்தன்மையின் விளைவு தான் இப்போது குசேலனுக்காக, போர்க்குரல் எழுப்பும் சூழ்நிலை யை உருவாக்கித் தந்துள்ளது. திருட்டு "விசிடி' உச்சத்தில் இருக்கும் காலத்திலும் தியேட்டர்கள் வாழ்ந்ததற்கு ரஜினி நடித்த படங்கள் தான் காரணம் என்பதை மறந்துவிட்டு, இன்று ரஜினியின் இமேஜை சிதைக்கும் முயற்சியில் இறங்கியுள்ளனர் என குற்றஞ்சாட்டுகின்றனர் திரையுலகின் ஒரு பகுதியினர்.
"யானை விழுந்தால் எழுவதற்கு நேரமாகும்... நான் குதிரை... விழுந்த வேகத்தில் எழுந்துவிடுவேன்' என்று பாபா பட தோல்விக்கு பின் ரஜினி ஒரு விழாவில் பேசினார். சந்திரமுகி மூலம் அதை நிரூபித்தும் காட்டினார். ரஜினியைச் சுற்றியுள்ள தற்போதைய சர்ச்சைகளில் இருந்தும் அவர் மீண்டும் வெளியே வந்து, நடிப்பால் மட்டுமல்ல; குணத்தாலும் நிரந்தர சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் தான் தான் என்பதை விரைவில் நிரூபிப்பார் என்று உறுதியாக நம்புகின்றனர் ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள்..
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From: Nerd on 24th August 2008 07:51 AM [Full View]
Review from Times, South Africa
Although Rajnikanth plays only a guest role, the focus of the marketing and media has been on Rajni as the star. The audio CD does not contain a picture of the lead actor, and publicity posters do not feature the lead pair, Pasupathy and Meena.
Rajni makes his first appearance in the movie after more than half an hour and his total time on screen amounts to just over an hour.
The movie has an outstanding story and contains moving performances and a beautiful message, but it fails to meet the gigantic expectations created by the marketing and media.
Balu or Balakrishna (Pasupathy) is a struggling barber. He is happily married to Shridevi (Meena) and they have three children, but life is not easy for them. Balu’s business faces unfair competition and he struggles to survive, as he refuses to stoop to unscrupulous methods to earn an income.
When the villagers learn that a Tamil Nadu superstar, Ashokkumar (Rajnikanth), will shoot his next movie in their area, Balu becomes everyone’s favourite, as he and Ashokkumar were childhood friends.
But it has been many years since Balu last saw Ashokkumar, and he fears that stardom might have made his old friend forget him. He also does not want Ashokkumar to see how he is battling to earn an income.
As he makes up excuses to avoid a meeting with his old friend, he is branded a liar and shunned by everyone, including his own children.
Although the film’s ending is predictable, it does not dilute the emotional impact it has on the viewer. It is impossible to remain unmoved by the last 20 minutes. Had Vasu only shown the same emotional intensity in the movie’s first half, the end result would have been substantially better.
Kuselan contains some intense and impressive acting performances.
Rajni’s performance is ambivalent. Although it does not differ much from his per- formances in earlier films, it lacks the style, one-liners and larger-than-life images that have characterised his full-length roles.
For those who are familiar with Rajni’s biography, the film contains some hard-hitting references to his personal life and offers a rare glimpse into his thoughts and feelings. As such, Kuselan is a must-see for his fans.
Pasupathy, though a relative newcomer to the industry, has developed immensely and has become an imposing screen presence. He does not indulge in melodrama or histrionics. Instead, he handles his complex role with dignified intensity and a marvellous ability to emote.
Meena delivers a soulful performance and should rightfully feel peeved at having her name appear after Nayanthara’s in the credits.
Nayanthara does not have a single word of dialogue. She appears only in the songs, and there will be no room for sexy item dancers if she continues in this fashion. Revealing clothing, steamy sensuality and alluring looks characterise her appearances.
Vadivelu, who delighted audiences in Chandhramukhi, is bound to annoy cinema-goers with his idiotic antics, which reduce a talented comedian to an awkward buffoon. Fortunately, he disappears without a trace in the film’s second half.
MS Bhaskar and Livingstone come close to challenging Vadivelu with their stylised performances, and R Sunderrajan will earn few points with audiences as a fiery critic of Ashokkumar.
The performances of Santhaanam and Chinni Jayanth are best forgotten, while Prabhu plays a small, but memorable role.
Many have been raving about GV Pra- kash’s music, but his soundtrack failed to impress me. The best of the songs are Sollu Sollu and Om Zaarirare.
Despite the failure of the so-called comedians, Kuselan is a remarkable exposé of an extraordinary man and should not be missed.
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From: cm123 on 24th August 2008 08:12 AM [Full View]
Nerd .. Originally Posted by Nerd
Whoa! Excellent excellent article
சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் தகுதியை இழக்கிறாரா ரஜினி?
ஆகஸ்ட் 24,2008,00:00 IST
"சூப்பர் ஸ்டார்' ரஜினிக்கு இப்போது மீண்டும் சோதனைக்காலம். "குசேலன் படத்தின் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடுகட்டும் வகையில், பணத்தை திருப்பித் தர வேண்டும்' என தியேட்டர் அதிபர்கள் மற்றும் வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் எதிர்ப்பு குரல் எழுப்பியிருப்பதும், கன்னடர்களிடம் மன்னிப்பு கேட்டு தமிழர்களின் எதிரியாகிவிட்டதாக சித்தரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதும் தற்போது ரஜினியைச் சூழ்ந்துள்ள பிரச்னைகள். இந்த இரு விவகாரங்களையும் சர்ச்சையாக்கி ஆளாளுக்கு ரஜினிக்கு "அட்வைஸ்' கொடுத்து மகிழ்ந்து வருகின்றனர்.
ரஜினியைப் பொறுத்தவரை அவர் பேசினாலும் செய்தி, பேசாவிட்டாலும் செய்தி என்கிற உயரத்தில் மீடியாக்கள் அவரை வைத்துள்ளன. உள்ளொன்று வைத்து புறமொன்று பேசும் பழக்கம் ரஜினிக்கு கிடையாது. ஒகேனக்கல் பிரச்னைக்கான உண்ணாவிரத மேடையில், ஒவ்வொருவரும் தொடர்ந்து வெளிப்படுத்திய ஆவேசத்தின் தாக்கம் தான், "உதைக்க வேண்டும்' என்ற வார்த்தையாக ரஜினி வாயில் இருந்து வந்து விழுந்தது. பின்னாளில் அது சர்ச்சையாகவும் உருவெடுத்தது.
இந்த பிரச்னை ஓய்வதற்கு முன்பாகவே குசேலன் பட விவகாரம் கிளம்பியது. சிவாஜி படத்தை எடுத்த வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் சிலர் நஷ்டப்பட்டதாகவும், அவர்களை திருப்திபடுத்தும் வகையிலும், பாலசந்தருக்கு உதவும் வகையிலும் தான் குசேலன் படத்தில் நடிக்க ரஜினி ஒப்புக்கொண்டார். "குசேலன் படம் என் படம் அல்ல; அது பசுபதியின் படம்' என்று பட ரிலீசுக்கு முன்பே ரஜினி வெளிப்படையாக தெரிவித்தார். குசேலன் படப்பிடிப்பு நிலையில் இருந்தபோதே, சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம் 60 கோடி ரூபாய் என விலை வைத்து படத்தை வாங்கியது. 60 நிமிடங்கள் ரஜினி தோன்றும் படத்திற்கு 60 கோடி ரூபாய் என்று கோலிவுட் வட்டாரத்தில் அப்போதே பரபரப்பு ஏற்பட்டது. குசேலனில் ரஜினி தோன்றும் காட்சிகள், குறித்த விவரம் தெரிந்திருந்தும் அதற்கு பெரிய விலை கொடுத்து வினியோகஸ்தர்களும், தியேட்டர் அதிபர்களும் வாங்கினர்.
இப்போது, "குசேலன் படம் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூலைத் தரவில்லை' என தியேட்டர் அதிபர்கள், வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் எதிர்ப்பு குரல் எழுப்பியுள்ளனர். இது ரஜினி படம் என்று சொல்லி ஏமாற்றிவிட்டனர் என்பதுதான் அவர்களின் குற்றச்சாட்டு. இந்த விஷயத்தில் ரஜினியைத் தலையிடச் சொல்லி வற்புறுத்தி வருகின்றனர் இவர்கள். தமிழ்த் திரையுலகில் வினியோகஸ்தர்களும், தியேட்டர் அதிபர்களுமே ஒரு ஹீரோவின் தலையெழுத்தையும், சம்பளத்தையும் நிர்ணயித்து வந்துள்ளனர்.
ரஜினி, கமல், விஜய், அஜித் போன்ற ஸ்டார்களின் படங்கள் என்றால், பூஜையின் போதே கோடிகளைக் கொட்டிக் கொடுத்து இவர்கள் வாங்குவதால் தான், ஹீரோக்களின் சம்பளம் விண்ணைத் தொட்டது. இவ்வளவு விலை கொடுத்து வாங்கிய படங்கள் வசூலைக் குவித்தபோது, அதில் ஆதாயம் அடைந்தவர்களும் இவர்களே. அதே நேரத்தில், நல்ல படங்களை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கி, கொள்ளை லாபம் பார்த்த வரலாறும் இவர்களுக்கு உண்டு. "வைதேகி காத்திருந்தாள்' படத்தை கெஞ்சிக் கூத்தாடி அதன் இயக்குனர் ஆர்.சுந்தர்ராஜன் அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு விற்கச் செய்து ரிலீஸ் செய்தார். அந்த படம் சக்கைப்போடு போட்டு வசூலை வாரிக் குவித்தபோது அதன் பலன் இயக்குனருக்கோ, தயாரிப்பாளருக்கோ போய்ச் சேரவில்லை.
பாலாவின் இயக்கத்தில் உருவான "சேது' படம் பிரிவியூ தியேட்டரிலேயே 100 நாட்கள் ஓடி வேதனை படைத்த படம். பிரிவியூ பார்த்தவர்கள் எல்லாம் ஒதுங்கிக்கொள்ள, அந்தப் படத்தை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கி, படம் ஹிட் ஆனதால் பலரும் லாபம் பார்த்தனர். ஆனால், அந்தப் படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர், அடுத்த படம் தயாரிக்கக் கூட வழியின்றி நின்றது வரலாறு.[/b] சமீபத்திய வரவான "சென்னை -28' படத்தையும் மிகக் குறைந்த விலைக்கு வாங்கி பெருத்த லாபம் அடைந்தவர்கள் வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் தான்.
தமிழ்த் திரையுலகில் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூல் கிடைக்கவில்லை என்பதற்காக, முதன் முதலில் பணத்தை திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தவர் மணிரத்னம். "மெட்ராஸ் டாக்கீஸ்' தயாரிப்பில் உருவான "இருவர்' படம் எதிர்பார்த்த வசூலை கொடுக்காததால் அந்தப் படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர், இயக்குனர் என்ற முறையில், சத்தமில்லாமல் பலருக்கும் பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தார் மணிரத்னம். அடுத்ததாய், "பாபா' படத்தின் தோல்வியால் பாதிக்கப்பட்டவர்களுக்கு ரஜினி பணத்தை திரும்பக் கொடுத்த சம்பவம் நடந்தது.
ரஜினியின் இந்த பெருந்தன்மையின் விளைவு தான் இப்போது குசேலனுக்காக, போர்க்குரல் எழுப்பும் சூழ்நிலை யை உருவாக்கித் தந்துள்ளது. திருட்டு "விசிடி' உச்சத்தில் இருக்கும் காலத்திலும் தியேட்டர்கள் வாழ்ந்ததற்கு ரஜினி நடித்த படங்கள் தான் காரணம் என்பதை மறந்துவிட்டு, இன்று ரஜினியின் இமேஜை சிதைக்கும் முயற்சியில் இறங்கியுள்ளனர் என குற்றஞ்சாட்டுகின்றனர் திரையுலகின் ஒரு பகுதியினர்.
"யானை விழுந்தால் எழுவதற்கு நேரமாகும்... நான் குதிரை... விழுந்த வேகத்தில் எழுந்துவிடுவேன்' என்று பாபா பட தோல்விக்கு பின் ரஜினி ஒரு விழாவில் பேசினார். சந்திரமுகி மூலம் அதை நிரூபித்தும் காட்டினார். ரஜினியைச் சுற்றியுள்ள தற்போதைய சர்ச்சைகளில் இருந்தும் அவர் மீண்டும் வெளியே வந்து, நடிப்பால் மட்டுமல்ல; குணத்தாலும் நிரந்தர சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் தான் தான் என்பதை விரைவில் நிரூபிப்பார் என்று உறுதியாக நம்புகின்றனர் ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள்..
Dinamalarum sernthuthan kandapadi pesinarkal....
ippa enna achunnu teriyala...
Rajini has to do something...
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From: cm123 on 24th August 2008 09:58 AM [Full View]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHyQM...eature=related
yaravathu intha title music eppadi irunthathunnu sollungappa
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From: Nerd on 24th August 2008 11:15 AM [Full View]
cm123,
Worst times for a Rajini fan thats probably why we simply lap up any positive articles
Btw, idha ellAm pala muRai pArthAchu, uzhaippALi times, bAbA times etc.., thalaivar tak-nu enthirippAr don't worry. We are always with him
P.S. The title music was irritating (I heard it only in my 4th viewing, nobody whistled, including me ) Deva still stands heads and shoulders above anyone when it comes to title music, though it was stolen...
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From: vikatan on 24th August 2008 01:17 PM [Full View]
Hi to all Rajini fans.....
Guess I rubbed you all the wrong way when I made that Manasaatchi comment. My apologies .My intention was not to inflame or hurt anybody.
I made that comment when I think of real Rajini classics like Dalapathi, Bhuvana oru Kelvi Kuri...Netri Kann etc....
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From: omega on 24th August 2008 02:13 PM [Full View]
Exactly. Nothing worse can happen. Afterall Thalaivar will use this situation to yet again filter by whom he is really surrounded by. To me SUNTVs' propoganda seems way too shocking. I know its just not them alone, almost the entire media, but to stoop to such low was unthinked off. I am not sure, if this is a tactic for them to rub his shoulders so that he would jump into politics in a haste?? Originally Posted by Nerd
cm123,
Worst times for a Rajini fan thats probably why we simply lap up any positive articles
Btw, idha ellAm pala muRai pArthAchu, uzhaippALi times, bAbA times etc.., thalaivar tak-nu enthirippAr don't worry. We are always with him
P.S. The title music was irritating (I heard it only in my 4th viewing, nobody whistled, including me ) Deva still stands heads and shoulders above anyone when it comes to title music, though it was stolen...
Every time when he had faced with such situation, he had only come back stronger & wider in reach. Afterall this would only make his fans more united & vigorous for future endevors. COOL!!!
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From: omega on 24th August 2008 10:57 PM [Full View]
'குசேலன்' குடுமிபிடி...
'சும்மா அதிருதில்லே...!'
''இந்த அசோக்குமாரே நடிச்சிருந்தாக்கூட மக்க ளுக்குப் பிடிக்கலைன்னா பார்க்க மாட்டாங்க!'' -இது 'குசேலன்' படத்தில் ரஜினி ஓரிடத்தில் பேசும் ஒரு வசனம்.
''நான் நடிச்ச 'குசேலன்' படத்தை மொத்தமா வாங்கியிருக்கிற சாய்மீரா நிறுவனத்தைவிட எனக்குத் தான் ரொம்ப டென்ஷனா இருக்கு..!'' -இது 'குசேலன்' கேசட் வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் ரஜினி பேசியது.
இப்போது மறுபடி திரும்பிப் பார்க்க வைக்கிற வசனங்களாகி விட்டன இவை!
வழக்கமாக, தமிழ்நாட்டில் ரஜினி படம் வெளியாகும் நாளை அவருடைய ரசிகர்கள் தீபாவளி, பொங்கல் போல் விமரிசையாகக் கொண்டாடுவார்கள். ஆனால், 'குசேலன்' மட்டும் 'போகி' ஆகி, ரசிகர்களின் உற்சாகத்தைப் போக் கடித்துவிட்டது!
ரஜினி படத்தின் க்ளிப் பிங்கைக் காட்டினாலே, உற்சாகக் கடலில் நீந்தி, முழு ஆதரவு கொடுத்து அந்தப் படத்தை வெற்றியடையச் செய்யும் ரசிகர்கள், 'குசேல'னில் ரஜினி இளமை துள்ளக் காட்சியளித்தபோதும் ஏனோ ரசிக்கவில்லை..!
தமிழ்நாட்டிலுள்ள திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர்கள் சங்கம் 'கையைச் சுட்டுக் கொண்டோம்' என்று சொல்லி, சில கோரிக்கைகளை முன்வைத்து, படத்தைத் தயாரித்த கவிதாலயா நிறுவனத்துக்கும் செவன் ஆர்ட்ஸ் ஃபிலிம்ஸ§க்கும் தடை விதித்துள்ளது.
இதுகுறித்து தமிழ்நாடு திரைப்பட உரிமையாளர்கள் சங்க பொதுச்செயலாளர் பன்னீர்செல்வம் நம்மிடம், ''தியேட்டர் வெச்சிருக்குறவங்களுக்கு இந்த வருஷம் சோதனை காலம். முதல்ல 'பீமா' அப்புறம் 'குருவி', 'குசேலன்', 'சத்யம்' இப்படி வரிசையா படங்களைத் திரையிட்டுச் சூடு பட்டோம்! 'தசாவதாரம்' படத்துலதான் போட்ட காசைத் திருப்பி எடுத்தோம். ரஜினி, படம் பூரா நடிக்கிறார்ங்கிற நம்பிக்கையிலதான் அறுபது கோடி ரூபாய்க்கு பிசினஸ் ஆச்சு. 'குசேலன்' கேசட் ஃபங்ஷன்ல ரஜினியை வச்சிக்கிட்டே டைரக்டர் பி.வாசு, 'குசேலன் சூப்பர் ஸ்டாரோட படம்'னு பேசினார். அப்பவே ரஜினி அதை மறுத்துப் பேசியிருக்கலாமே... ஏன் மௌனமா இருந்தார்? 20 சதவிகிதம், 30 சதவிகிதம் நஷ்டம்னா பேசாமப் போயிருப்போம். 80 சதவிகிதம், 90 சதவிகிதம் நஷ்டத்தை எப்படித் தாங்கிக்க முடியும்? இதுக்கு முந்தி இதே ரஜினியின் படங்கள் மூலமா லாபம் சம்பாதிக்கலை யான்னு சிலர் கேக்கு றாங்க. எல்லாரும் ஒரு உண்மையைத் தெரிஞ்சுக்கணும்... பொதுவா எந்தப் புதுப்படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆனாலும், அதை வெளியிடுற விநியோகஸ்தர்களுக்கோ தயாரிப்பாளர்களுக்கோ 65 சதவிகிதம் கிடைக்கும். தியேட்டர்காரங்களுக்கு வெறும் 35 சதவிகிதம்தான். அதிலும் ரஜினி படம்னா அவங்களுக்கு 70 சதவிகிதம், எங்களுக்கு 30 சதவிகிதம்தான். சம்பாதிச்ச அந்தக் காசு கரன்ட் செலவு, ரசிகர்கள் உடைச்ச ஸீட்களை மாத்துற செலவுக்கே சரியா போயிடும்.
எங்க ஊரு ஜனங்க ரஜினி படத்தை ரிலீஸ் பண்ணினா, அந்த தியேட்டரை உசரத்துல நிறுத்தி வச்சுப் பார்ப்பாங்க. அந்த கௌரவத்துக்காகத்தான் ரஜினி படத்தை ரிலீஸ் பண்றோம். பலரும் நினைக்கிற மாதிரி கோடிகோடியாப் பணத்தைக் கோணிப் பையில கட்டிக்கிட்டுப் போகலை'' என்றார் சூடாக.
பெரும் விலைக்குக் 'குசேலன்' படத்தை வாங்கிய பிரமீட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனத்தின் துணைத்தலைவர் சிவஸ்ரீ சீனிவாசனிடம் பேசினோம். ''நடப்பதை எல்லாம் பார்த்துக்கொண்டுதான் இருக்கிறோம். வழக்கமாகத் தமிழ் திரைப்பட உலகில் பிரச்னை ஏற்படும்போது அதை எந்த வகையில் தீர்த்து வைப்பார்களோ அந்த விதமாக 'குசேலன்' பட விஷயத்திலும் பேசிவருகிறோம். எங்கள் நிறுவனத்தின் செயல்பாடுகள் குறித்துப் பொதுமக்களோடு பகிர்ந்துகொள்ள விரும்பவில்லை'' என்றார்.
ஒட்டுமொத்த திரையரங்க உரிமையாளர்களும், 'பி.வாசுவின் பேச்சை நம்பி ஏமாந்துவிட்டோம்' என்று சொல்வது குறித்து அவரிடமே பேசினோம்.
''நான் யாருக்கும் தப்பான வாக்குறுதிகளைத் தரலை. ஆரம்பத்திலிருந்தே என்னைப் பேட்டி கண்ட எல்லா சேனல்களிலும் 'ரஜினி சார் கெஸ்ட் ரோல்தான் செய்கிறார்' என்பதை உறுதிப்படுத்தியிருக்கிறேன். ஒரிஜினலான 'கத பறையும் போள்' படத்தில் மம்மூட்டி 15 நிமிஷம் மட்டும்தான் வந்து போவார். ஆனால், 'குசேலன் படத்தில் ரஜினி சார் நிறைய வரவேண்டும். அப்போதுதான் அவரது ரசிகர்களைத் திருப்திபடுத்தமுடியும்' என்பதற்காக அவர் படத்தில் 55 நிமிஷம் வரும்படி காட்சிகளை அமைத்தேன்.
ஏதோ தமிழ் சினிமா தொடங்கிய காலத்திலிருந்து எல்லாப் படங்களும் ஓஹோ வென்று ஓடிவிடுவதைப் போலவும், சரித்திரத்திலேயே முதல்முறையாக 'குசேலன்'தான் தோல்வியடைந்ததைப் போலவும் மீடியாக்கள் எல்லாம் தோற்றம் ஏற்படுத்துவது எதற்காக, யாருக்காக? 'குசேலன்' அந்த ஊரில் அப்படியாச்சு, இந்த ஊரில் இப்படியாச்சு என்று ஒட்டுமொத்தமாக வரிந்து கட்டிக்கொண்டு பரபரப்பு செய்ய வேண்டிய அவசியம்தான் என்ன?
அட, என்னைப் பத்திக்கூட பேசுங்க. ஆனா, ரஜினி சார் ரொம்ப நல்ல மனுஷர். அவருக்கு 'சூப்பர் ஸ்டார்' பட்டம் கொடுத்து, உயரமான இடத்துல உட்காரவச்சு அழகு பார்த்த அதே தமிழ்நாட்டுல அவருக்கு எதிர்ப்பா இப்படி ஒரு மாயத் தோற்றத்தை உருவாக்கவேண்டிய அவசியம்தான் என்ன?! எனக்கு இது புரியாத புதிரா இருக்கு!
நிஜ குசேலர்கள்!
'' 'குசேலன்' படத்தால் எங்களுக்குக் கோடிக்கணக்கில் நஷ்டம். அதனால், சாய்மீரா நிறுவன வாசலில் சாகும்வரை உண்னாவிரதம் இருக்கப் போகிறோம்'' என்று அறிவித்திருக்கிறார்கள், ஆந்திர திரைப்பட விநியோகஸ்தர்கள். 'குசேலன்' படப்பெட்டிகளை சென்னைக்கு ரயிலேற்றிவிட்டு, ரஜினியின் கடைக்கண் பார்வைக் காகத் தற்போது சென்னையில் முகாமிட்டிருக்கும் இவர்களின் சார்பாக, 'ராயலசீமா ஃபிலிம் டிஸ்ட்ரிபியூட்டர் அசோசியேஷன்' சங்கத்தைச் சேர்ந்த சசிதர்பாபு நம்மிடம் பேசினார்-
''தமிழில் எடுத்ததைப் போலவே தெலுங்கிலும் தனிப் படமாகவே 'குசேல'னை எடுத்தார்கள். நடிகர் பசுபதி நடித்த பாத்திரத்தில் ஜகபதிபாபு தெலுங்கில் நடித்தார். அதனை அஸ்வின் தத் தயாரித்தார். பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம், அஸ்வின் தத்திடமிருந்து படத்தை வாங்கி, எங்களுக்கு விற்றது. நான் ராயலசீமா ஏரியாவை 2 கோடியே 65 லட்ச ரூபாய்க்கு வாங்கினேன். இதுவரை 65 லட்சம்தான் கலெக்ஷன் ஆகியிருக்கு. குண்டூர் ஏரியாவை 1 கோடியே 20 லட்சத்துக்கு வாங்கியவருக்கு 30 லட்சமும் இதே விலைக்கு வாங்கிய விசாகப்பட்டினம் ஏரியாவில் 20 லட்சமும்தான் கிடைத்திருக்கிறது. 80 லட்சம் கொடுத்து வாங்கிய மேற்கு ஆந்திராவில் 60 லட்சம் நஷ்டமாகியிருக்கிறது'' என்று அடுக்கியவர்,
''படத்தில் ரஜினி என்கிற மந்திரம் இருப்பதால்தான் 'குசேல'னை இவ்வளவு விலை கொடுத்து வாங்கினோம். ரிலீஸ் தேதிக்கு முன்பு ஒரு பிட் ரீலைக்கூட எங்களுக்குக் காட்டவில்லை. அதனால், படம் எப்படிப் போகும் என்பதை முன்கூட்டியே எங்களால் கணிக்க முடியவில்லை. மொத்தத்தில், எங்கள் தலையில் இடி விழுந்திருக்கிறது. இதனை அறிந்து, பாதிக்கப்பட்ட விநியோகஸ்தர்களுக்கு ரஜினி பத்து கோடி கொடுத்திருப்பதாகச் செய்தி வெளியானது. அதைப் பார்த்துவிட்டு சென்னை வந்து சாய்மீரா நிறுவனத்திடம் எங்கள் துயரங்களைச் சொன்னோம். அவர்கள், 'அப்படியெல்லாம் யாருக்கும் பணம் கொடுக்கவில்லை' என்றார்கள். ரஜினியாவது எங்கள் நிலைமையைப் புரிந்துகொள்ள வேண்டும். அவர் எங்கள் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடு கட்டுவதற்காக பிச்சையாக நினைத்துப் பணம் கொடுத்தாலும், பெற்றுக்கொள்ளத் தயாராக இருக்கோம்'' என்றார் சோகமாக!
- பாலா
படம்: என்.விவேக்
சரி, இவ்ளவு நஷ்டமாச்சுன்னு பட்டியல் போட்டுக் காட்டறாங்களே... 'சந்திரமுகி' படத்துல கொள்ளைக் கொள்ளையா லாபம் பார்த்த கணக்கை எடுத்து வெளியே வச்சுப் பேசச் சொல்லுங்க, பார்ப்போம்!'' என்று தணியாத ஆவேசத்தோடு கேட்டு முடித்தார் இயக்குநர் பி.வாசு.
எது எப்படியோ... 'நாலைந்து பேரை குபேரனாக்கி, திரையிட்டவர்களை மட்டும் குசேலனாக்கிவிட்டது இந்தப் படம்' என்ற புகார் அப்படியே சூடாகத்தான் இருக்கிறது.
- எம்.குணா
Romba correcta solliputteeenga.........
Ithepola ini varum kaalangalilum unga sotha vithu yepdiyaavathu Thalaivar padatha pottu unga oor makkal unga theatrea usathiya pesumpadi seyunga.....
Nalla alakkuraaingalppa............Athu sari ithu unga neram kalakkunga...
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From: directhit on 25th August 2008 07:20 AM [Full View]
SS made a big mistake in giving back the amt for Baba
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From: cm123 on 25th August 2008 07:56 AM [Full View]
No more negative news please atleast in rajini related threads in this forum..
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From: cm123 on 25th August 2008 08:04 AM [Full View]
Defenitely that was a big mistake.. Originally Posted by directhit
SS made a big mistake in giving back the amt for Baba
Ini adutha padathukkellam avar Karnadakavilirunthu vanthu TN la sampathikurar athanala avar sampalathil ella tamilarukkum pangu tharanum enru tamil makkalin nalam onraye kurikolaga vaithirukkum meadiakkal ketparkalnu ninaikiren..
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 08:07 AM [Full View]
Trichy update: Dhaam dhoom is replacing the movie in sona from the 29th and sarOja in ramba from sep 5th. So Kuselan will be completely removed from Trichy on its 36th day. Baba ran 33 days in 3 theaters and 91 days in ramba
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From: cm123 on 25th August 2008 08:12 AM [Full View]
I heard that in Vilupuram and kadalur districts the movie is being removed purposely in non sameera theatres.. Originally Posted by Nerd
Trichy update: Dhaam dhoom is replacing the movie in sona from the 29th and sarOja in ramba from sep 5th. So Kuselan will be completely removed from Trichy on its 36th day. Baba ran 33 days in 3 theaters and 91 days in ramba
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 08:19 AM [Full View]
That must be TRUE. AFAIK except at megastar in Trichy it was going good in Trichy. Not anywhere close to the BOSS but at least it was like bAbA. Sat/Sun evening night shows were not housefull only this week in Trichy. Morning/Matinee in weekends/weekdays were bad though. But completely removing the movie before 50th day only happened with nAttukku oru nallavan. pANdiyan did better eventhough thevar magan was going strong. Originally Posted by cm123
I heard that in Vilupuram and kadalur districts the movie is being removed purposely in non sameera theatres.. Originally Posted by Nerd
Trichy update: Dhaam dhoom is replacing the movie in sona from the 29th and sarOja in ramba from sep 5th. So Kuselan will be completely removed from Trichy on its 36th day. Baba ran 33 days in 3 theaters and 91 days in ramba
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From: Thirumaran on 25th August 2008 08:31 AM [Full View]
In pondicherry too, it was completely removed from the 2 theaters it released within 3 weeks
The movies that replaced them were more shocking. Sutta pazham and Nayakan
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From: cm123 on 25th August 2008 11:49 AM [Full View]
kumudam interview with rajini in 2004...
Q: Producers, distributors, theatre owners - all of them agree wholeheartedly on one thing. "Next to MGR, only Rajini films are pouring profits". MGR had a political vision. In your films too many scenes, dialogues, punch dialogues have created a kind of expectation about you in the minds of people. But, why is it that you have not entered politics directly?
A: I wanted to clear this issue from a long time. This is one opportunity. (seriously). I will tell you a example .. "I don't know when will I come, how will I come. But, I will come at the appointed time." - this is a dialogue from 'Muthu'. In this, did I say that I will come to politics? Even when this was scripted I asked whether this was required .. people said "let it be there". Achachacho .. My God!! After the release, what all did the media write ... Will he come? Won't he come? What is that he is telling? ... how many guesses like these! Sir, I am not yet convinced with politics. I haven't even dreamt of many things that have occurred in my life. But, they have happened. Really I do not know what is going to happen tomorrow. Then, how can I tell anything decisively now? Nothing is in my hand. My strength is my fearlessness. I haven't feared of anything or anybody. I don't have to speak anything with the intention of scaring anyone. I haven't feared when I did not have a single penny in my pocket. Now, when I have crores will I fear for anything? (laughs heartily)
antha sani ippa athe kumathil thana kuppai kottudu .. onnume teriyatha.....?
intha mediavukkellam appa onnume teriyatha
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From: omega on 25th August 2008 05:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by cm123
kumudam interview with rajini in 2004...
Q: Producers, distributors, theatre owners - all of them agree wholeheartedly on one thing. "Next to MGR, only Rajini films are pouring profits". MGR had a political vision. In your films too many scenes, dialogues, punch dialogues have created a kind of expectation about you in the minds of people. But, why is it that you have not entered politics directly?
A: I wanted to clear this issue from a long time. This is one opportunity. (seriously). I will tell you a example .. "I don't know when will I come, how will I come. But, I will come at the appointed time." - this is a dialogue from 'Muthu'. In this, did I say that I will come to politics? Even when this was scripted I asked whether this was required .. people said "let it be there". Achachacho .. My God!! After the release, what all did the media write ... Will he come? Won't he come? What is that he is telling? ... how many guesses like these! Sir, I am not yet convinced with politics. I haven't even dreamt of many things that have occurred in my life. But, they have happened. Really I do not know what is going to happen tomorrow. Then, how can I tell anything decisively now? Nothing is in my hand. My strength is my fearlessness. I haven't feared of anything or anybody. I don't have to speak anything with the intention of scaring anyone. I haven't feared when I did not have a single penny in my pocket. Now, when I have crores will I fear for anything? (laughs heartily)
antha sani ippa athe kumathil thana kuppai kottudu .. onnume teriyatha.....?
intha mediavukkellam appa onnume teriyatha
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This is what I was trying to post for sometime. Great job cm123.
Don't even bring that jolna paikaaran here any more. Already he had gained a lot of mileage (he will continue in future as well) using our Thalaivars' name off late. Avanukku vera velaye kedayaathu, eppa Thalaivar vaaya therappaaru, athu oru nayyaandi pannaalmnu kaathikittruppaaru.
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From: crajkumar_be on 25th August 2008 05:32 PM [Full View]
For the people who think the percentage of compensation demanded is atrocious etc..
The whole issue is because of something unprecedented in TFI. A low budget movie being sold for many times its cost. While it is true that all the parties would have known what they were getting into when they were signing the agreement in the first place, the fact of the matter is that most of the exhibitors have been very badly hit. The theaters which have been relatively unaffected are the ones which went for sharing basis rather than MG and those owned/controlled by Saimira. Whoever is responsible for the senseless move is now facing the repercussions
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From: omega on 25th August 2008 05:39 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Very true.
One thing I fail to understand is, in the press conference, he (is he panneerselvam - secretary of exhibitors association) he states that, "we are not asking to share the losses?, only the 70% of our MG amount". What exactly is losses to theatres which has screened the movie on MG basis? It they had paid say 1lakh as MG (for example) they are demanding 70thousand of it (??). Is there any more losses beyond this MG amount?? I fail to understand.
I honestly feel, that they are trying to cash in big (atleast more than they are due) in this matter. Anyway IMO.
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From: Vivasaayi on 25th August 2008 06:19 PM [Full View]
do u think they could do that to two people who are in industry for more than 3 decades Originally Posted by omega
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Very true.
One thing I fail to understand is, in the press conference, he (is he panneerselvam - secretary of exhibitors association) he states that, "we are not asking to share the losses?, only the 70% of our MG amount". What exactly is losses to theatres which has screened the movie on MG basis? It they had paid say 1lakh as MG (for example) they are demanding 70thousand of it (??). Is there any more losses beyond this MG amount?? I fail to understand.
I honestly feel, that they are trying to cash in big (atleast more than they are due) in this matter. Anyway IMO.
balachander and rajni?
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 07:16 PM [Full View]
Well a 21L MG guy was claiming he suffered 90% loss. Which means the movie collected only 2.1L in 20 days. He sold about 6 shows to fan clubs for about 30000 a show. He did not sell the Sunday shows, btw. Also is there anything else that needs to be considered apart from the MG??
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 07:31 PM [Full View]
Nerd,Bala and any other well informed people,
Regardless of kuselan i want to know some details ..when we talk about collection and profit ,both are same ?
Example ,lets say a theatre bought a movie for 20 lacks and collected 20 lacks ,how much the theatre owner gets ? No need to pay to distributer and other expenses ?
So profit should be = Amount bought - Paid to distributor - expenses .
when when theatre bought for 20 L ,how much it should collect (approx) to get profit?
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 07:44 PM [Full View]
There are two different things. Percentage basis and MG. There is a third thing which is percentage after MG.
Just MG means whatever he gets beyond MG is his. In percentage basis, he only gets to keep a percentage of the collections. Selling black tickets, selling shows to fanclubs etc., are done by the theater owners to manipulate the actual collection details.
I may be wrong, this is AFAIK.
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 07:51 PM [Full View]
Thanks Nerd!
But still it is confusing ..Even in distribution ..For example Abirami Ramanathan bought chennai rights of Sivaji for 7 crores (assume) ..and lets say he gets 70% of collection ..when we see theatre collection 7 crores ,we used to say "he got the investment..hereafter only profit" ..shouldn't it be once the collection reaches 10 crores ? I am confused
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 07:54 PM [Full View]
what 'Katha paRayum poL' director feels about kuselan?
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-25-08-08.html
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 08:04 PM [Full View]
You are right if its % basis. But sivaji was sold in MG + % basis. I don't know the MG amount and the % after that. Also I forgot to add this cascading effect. Sometimes even the producers get a share of theater collections :P
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 08:07 PM [Full View]
aahaa Originally Posted by Nerd
melum kuLappama.
Yaaravathu ithai pathi oru detailed article ezhuthina nallarukkum
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 08:16 PM [Full View]
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
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From: crajkumar_be on 25th August 2008 09:29 PM [Full View]
enakku therinja varaikkum idhu dhaan.. Usually they go for the MG with %age after MG.. Originally Posted by Nerd
In Tamil Nadu, correct DCR (Daily Collection Report) figures are seldom given, except for a few theaters. Running films for 100 days, 200 days etc is also at the behest of the producer/distributor/actor, wherein the said stake-holder covers for the daily rental and provided there are no alternatives with better ROI.
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From: joe on 25th August 2008 09:47 PM [Full View]
Btw, Intha poster design Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: omega on 25th August 2008 09:58 PM [Full View]
Wow!! great!! what a speech? Ithuthaanda speech. Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
Annan Sombu Vazhga!!
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From: crajkumar_be on 25th August 2008 10:00 PM [Full View]
Yeah, the loss compensation being demanded is against the MG paid. Originally Posted by omega
Some theaters ask for a deposit (not MG but a kind of advance) and in such cases, in case of loss, the distributor has to return the shortfall and they might be urging them to consider this on deposit basis.
What has happened is, thanks to P.Vasu, this film would have struggled/managed to stay afloat even in a normal release. Since they made it a wide release, because more # of screens paves the way for audience split and due to the high MG, ivanukkum illama avanukkum ilaama, the screens in question have shortfalls for such high margins.
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 10:04 PM [Full View]
It was PSTL that decided to make it a wide release, after watching the movie. Rajini/KB asked them not to make > 600 prints but they did not oblige.
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From: crajkumar_be on 25th August 2008 10:15 PM [Full View]
They are turning out to be like the Lok Paritran of TFI.. "corporates"... Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: m_23_bayarea on 25th August 2008 11:16 PM [Full View]
It's not about falling down! But it's all about rising up and striking back! And Thalaiver has done it many times... This is another golden opportunity for the same! Originally Posted by omega
Wow!! great!! what a speech? Ithuthaanda speech. Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
Annan Sombu Vazhga!!
Ppl that care much abt others and especially badmouth others when they fail have no identity or self-respect to begin with. They always will have to rely on either praising or degrading others to be known! They could instead focus on creating their own identity...
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 25th August 2008 11:25 PM [Full View]
i sometimes wonder why nothing can be done against creatures like sombu....sometimes cinema is becoming like indian politics....badaa comedy by sombu Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
It's not about falling down! But it's all about rising up and striking back! And Thalaiver has done it many times... This is another golden opportunity for the same! Originally Posted by omega
Wow!! great!! what a speech? Ithuthaanda speech. Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
Annan Sombu Vazhga!!
Ppl that care much abt others and especially badmouth others when they fail have no identity or self-respect to begin with. They always will have to rely on either praising or degrading others to be known! They could instead focus on creating their own identity...
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 11:27 PM [Full View]
Been trying to visit that link ever since Joe posted, but its not opening! I think its better this way, way too many issues at work today. orE the tenson Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 25th August 2008 11:32 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Been trying to visit that link ever since Joe posted, but its not opening! I think its better this way, way too many issues at work today. orE the tenson Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....நான் வந்திட்டேன். ரஜினி வரலை...
- நடிகர் சிம்பு பேச்சு
தெலுங்கு நடிகர் மோகன்பாபுவின் மகன் மனோஜ் குமார் தமிழில் நடிக்கும் படம் Simbu'என்னை தெரியுமா?' இவரது அறிமுக விழாவுக்கு வந்திருந்தார் சிம்பு. நான் பொது மேடைகளில் பேசுவதையோ, பேட்டிகள் கொடுப்பதையோ தவிர்த்து வருகிறேன். ஆனால், மனோஜ் என்னோட பிரண்ட். அதனால தவிர்க்க முடியாம இந்த விழாவுக்கு வந்திருக்கேன். மோகன்பாபுவோட பெஸ்ட் பிரண்ட் ரஜினி சார். மனோஜோட பெஸ்ட் பிரண்ட் நான். இங்கே ரஜினி சார் வரலை. ஆனால் நான் வந்திருக்கேன் என்று தன்னை ரஜினியோடு ஒப்பிட்டுக் கொண்டார்.
கதை சரியில்லேன்னா எவ்வளவு பெரிய நடிகர் நடிச்ச படமாக இருந்தாலும் ஓடாது. (இதுவும் ரஜினியை சீண்டுகிற பேச்சுதான்) இனிமேல், டைரக்ஷனும் பண்ண தெரிஞ்ச நடிகர்களால் மட்டும்தான் நிலைச்சு நிற்க முடியும்னு நான் நம்புறேன். என்னதான் கதை சொன்னாலும், கேட்கும்போது இருக்கிற ஃபீலிங்கை திரையிலேயும் கொண்டு வரணும். அதற்கு டைரக்ஷனும் தெரிஞ்சிருந்தா ஈசியா இருக்கும் என்றார் சிம்பு.
இளையராஜா இசையமைத்த 'தண்ணி கருத்திருச்சு' என்ற பாடல் இந்த படத்திற்காக ரீமிக்ஸ் செய்யப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அதை தமிழிலும், தெலுங்கிலும் பாடியிருக்கிறார் சிம்பு.
-ஆர்.எஸ்.
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From: Nerd on 25th August 2008 11:38 PM [Full View]
Thanks sakala
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From: Murali Srinivas on 26th August 2008 12:38 AM [Full View]
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Let me try to explain but not sure whether I can clear all your doubts. Let me start from the earlier period.
Initially TN theatres were having two or three methods. The city/Town/A-centre theatres would screen the movie on a percentage basis. This was called as Terms. For example in the first week the distributor would get 70% and exhibitor will get 30. Second week it will be 65:35, third week 60:40 and it will continue till it reaches 50:50. The maximum for 5 weeks. Afterwards it will be equal sharing. This type of terms would be only for MGR and NT films. Depending upon the movie, the terms would change. For USV, the distributor demanded and got 75% in the first week (I am talking about Madurai) and in the same manner, Pattikkaada Pattanamaa was given only 3 weeks term before release but after seeing the response it was extended by one more week. For the last two years, there has been no entertainment Tax. In the periods, I am mentioning, ET needs to be paid on the no of tickets sold. In this practice, there was a term called Hold over which is the minimum collection that should come in and this was applicable for the show as well as the week. For example if the Holdover (in common parlance it is Holder) falls for say a matinee show, then they will stop the matinee show and only two shows would be there. If the week holdover falls, then the film would be removed.
When MGR became the Chief Minister, he brought the compounding Tax. This means you have to calculate the total no of seats for a day and pay an approximate tax. For example if the no of seats is 1000, then 4 shows* 1000 = 4000 seats and you have to pay a certain percentage (say 30 -35% in B & C and nearly 50 % in "A") of total collection. By this the industry gained. More no of shows were shown and instead of each and every ticket, you have to pay only a percentage. Govt also gained because more revenue was coming in. I will give you one example how this worked. I am giving the actual figures of Tirisoolam in Madurai.
Theatre - Madurai Chinthamani. Film -Trisoolam. Days - 200
27.01.1979 to 14.08.1979.
Gross Collection - 10,28,000
Nett Collection - 5,13,000
Dist. Share - 2,67,000
Theatre Share - 2,46,000.
See, Govt had a revenue of Rs 5,15,000 and Distributor had a share of more than 2.6 L from a single screen and theatre had almost 2.5 L.
While this is applicable to A & B centres, there was one more practise like rent. The theatre would have a fixed rent for a week. The distributor would have to give this weekly rent irrespective of the collection. This makes the theatre very safe and distributor has to take all the risk. If you want to make a film "run" for 100 days, this is the practise that is followed.
In C centres, the theatre owner will come and pay an amount to the distributor and take the print. Once they cover their money and make profit, they would return the print. But here the distributor will insist on the no of days the theatre can keep the print.
Later the method of Deposit came up. The theatre owner would deposit an amount with the distributor. This is for ensuring that the film is released in their theatre. When the film releases, he will take all the nett collection (after the ET is paid) to his kitty till his deposit is covered. Once it is covered, the theatre and the distributor share on a equal basis. In case the film fails to cover the deposit amount, the distributor has to return the shortfall. Normally distributor will not return and will adjust for the next film. Both the teams have more or less equal risk here.
Then came the MG (or) Minimum guarantee. It is like deposit and operates on the same procedure but the major difference is the distributor retains the entire money irrespective of whether the film has collected or not. The theare cannot claim the money. Here the distributor is very safe and theatre has to take the risk. This practise which was prevalent only in major staions has now been extended to all categories and this makes the distributor of big films safe from day 1.
Now with the Entertainment Tax fully abolished, the theatre owner and distributor make a real killing. With the ticket rates priced astronomically, they share the spoils and govt is losing a big stream of revenue.
Then you were asking about the producer getting a share of theatre collections (Nerd was mentioning about this). Normally Tamilnadu is divided into 7 territories like Chennai, NSC, MR(Madurai- Ramnad), TK (Tirunelveli - Kanyakumari),TT (tiruchi -Tanjavoor), CN (Covai- Nilgiri), SD (Salem Dharmapuri). When the rights for these areas are sold it is called outright selling. Once they do it the producer doesn't have any claim and the distributor makes or loses money. Producer is safe.
At times the producer give it for MG (the same procedure I had mentioned above) and at times they go for distribution. This means a distibutor would be given the distribution rights of a film for a particular area for an agreed amount. Once the distributor covers the amount, the producer would start getting a share of the theatre collections. But as Bala said, no distributor/exhibitor would give the exact DCR and the producer will never get anything. That's why the producers prefer MG rather than deposit (which they have to return in case of shortfall) or distribution (where they will never get the correct figure).
There are certain other procedures like third party renting but I don't want to confuse you more. Now coming to your question, nowadays since it is only MG/Deposit, the theatre owner once he covers his amount, says that he has recovered and made profit. Here the sharing with the distributor happens only when the amount he had paid is covered.
Having said that, I too have a doubt regarding the claims made by these people that especially surface in websites and tabloids. Either they exaggerate the profit or exaggerate the loss. Another thing that keeps on surprising me is the importance given to 100% housefull shows in the first three days. I fail to understand what is there to so much talk about this? Having seen even normal NT and MGR films doing all shows Housefull for 30 to 40 days (Infact in Madurai for Tirisoolam, the first 120 days all shows were full and in Chennai, Shanthi, Crown and Bhuvaneswari had more than 100 days all shows full), this beats me. I do understand that times have changed and with the advent of TV, Satellite and pirated CDs making their appearence that make a sharp dent in collections, still it is a surprise to me.
Before it becomes too boring, let me stop here and Joe, thanks.
Regards
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From: thamiz on 26th August 2008 03:45 AM [Full View]
The funny part is the critic gnAni liked this movie and he was telling that in future Rajni should go in kuselan direction!
The bottomline is: Never make a Rajni movie for fulfilling gnAni's taste! If you do this is what will happen!
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From: thamiz on 26th August 2008 04:30 AM [Full View]
Cast: Rajini, Pasupathy, Nayanthara, Meena, Sona, Vadivelu, Vijayakumar
Direction: P Vasu
Music: G V Prakash
Production: K Balachander
It’s either the watered down script or the unfulfilled expectations of Rajini fans that did the trick in making Kuselan fall flat. However, not to mention, the superstar’s performance is indisputably excellent in the movie.
Trade Talk:
The movie was made on a minimum budget, despite the fact that Rajini starred in it. However, returns seem to be a tough call and hence the distributors are in a difficult situation and therefore agitating.
Public Talk:
The tearjerker climax.
No. Weeks Completed: 3
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 135
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 55 %
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 20,21,736
Total collections in Chennai by end of the fourth weekend: Rs. 3.62 Crore
Verdict: Below average
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From: m_23_bayarea on 26th August 2008 04:32 AM [Full View]
A good substitute for this movie is to type in "Rajini speech" in Youtube, and get to enjoy all his speeches and presence on different occasions! :P
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From: thamiz on 26th August 2008 04:38 AM [Full View]
As a movie, it did not disappoint me, bay. kuselan is not a bad movie for rajni.
But, the marketing, distributors, theatre owners' protest.
What is all these?
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From: m_23_bayarea on 26th August 2008 04:44 AM [Full View]
Well, of course as a movie, it wont disappoint anybody! Rajini did his part well of course... Originally Posted by thamiz
It only disappoints people when they say it's a full-fledged Rajini movie, whether it's fans or distributors or theatre owners!
As a fan, there are obviously expectations, and as distributors and theatre owners, there's obviously money involved!
Good lesson learnt the hard way!
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From: omega on 26th August 2008 04:53 AM [Full View]
Kuselan definitely disappointed me to the hilt (but Rajini's scenes).
A colossal mess by the maker IMO. It has been a long time since I hated a movie (Rajini's) wherein I didn't like a major portion of it.
I am not sure, how in the world PSL was ready to buy it for such exorbitant price. I doubt if they had seen the movie prior to the deal. It only tells me that how much everyone must have made in his recent two movies prior.
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From: m_23_bayarea on 26th August 2008 04:58 AM [Full View]
I'm really glad that all of us as Rajini fans here at least agree that this is not a good movie and that the team has made a blunder, instead of just pretending to hype it up and support it for the heq of it! It's good to face it than to be in a state of denial!
Let's enjoy better luck next time... Well, that luck will come with hard work from our idol and more team-effort!
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From: Nerd on 26th August 2008 07:13 AM [Full View]
Murali Sir, nice articulative post as usual. You have not touched upon the MG + % thingi of these days I guess. As CR also had mentioned, % basis is history now. But the theater owners are trying to avoid the MG thingi after the kusElan fiasco. But the theater owners have the power and ability to manipulate the DCR and in that sense they are very powerful
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 26th August 2008 09:19 AM [Full View]
one friend of mine, who watched and liked mallu version said the below things "kuselan flopped mainly becos it diverted from the main theme, the original will always keep the audience interested on the main theme and mammoka didnt come too long, like rajini. the focus never lost even when mammuka came."
he also said that the suderrajan interview type of scene is very much present in mallu version too but there the answers will be like "i am an actor and not a social service person"...type, but in tamil they mixed rajni's own words and politics matter which backfired
i personally feel kuselan, even katha parayu pol was not a too great subject for rajni. all these friendship stuff had come in dozens of flavors already in tamil. atleast rajni cud hav roped a director who had not done his films like, say murugadoss. things wud hav been better
but the mallu version is STILL running there!
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From: directhit on 26th August 2008 10:51 AM [Full View]
SKV - the primary difference IMO is the marketing of this movie as a SS movie and that Rajini wud be available thru the movie etc - the addnl scenes in tamil are the songs and the PartII scenes. But one thing to note in Malayalam is that 'script writer' Srinivasan is a big pull there. Ppl have high expectations on his script and they know what to expect - Peee Vasu having directed CM was the wrong choice for the movie and esp his otta vaayi was the main culprit i guess.
anyway neenga endha nokkathoda adha inga post pannenga therla - jus gave my opinion
btw dont think KP is still running there - but the orig VCD is still not out yet i guess
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From: hamid on 26th August 2008 10:57 AM [Full View]
mm.. didnt want to post anything reg Rajini since posts are deleted for no reason. but cant resist positing this.
nice one....
http://sirippu.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/kuselan-2/
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From: hamid on 26th August 2008 10:59 AM [Full View]
last few lines of that post..
எனினும், விமர்சனங்கள் சொன்னது போல குசேலன் மட்டமான படம் அல்ல. விமர்சனங்கள் பெரும்பாலும் ரஜினி எனும் தனிமனிதன் மீதான வெறுப்பாகவே வெளிப்பட்டிருக்கின்றனவோ எனும் ஐயம் எழுகிறது. கிளைமாக்ஸ் காட்சியில் அருகில் இருந்து படத்தைப் பார்த்தவர்கள் எல்லோருமே இறுக்கமாய் அமர்ந்திருந்ததையும், அவ்வப்போது கண்களைக் கசக்கியதையும் பார்க்க முடிந்தது.
தேவையற்ற சில பாடல்களையும் பெரும்பாலான நகைச்சுவைக் காட்சிகளையும் வெட்டி விட்டுப் பார்த்தால் சமீபகாலமாக வந்த படங்களில் தரமான படங்களின் வரிசையில் வைக்கக் கூடிய அனைத்துத் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்ற ஒரு படம் குசேலன்.
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From: sarna_blr on 26th August 2008 11:05 AM [Full View]
very nice REVIEW by the blogger Originally Posted by hamid
சமீபகாலமாக எந்தத் தமிழ்ப் படத்தையும் பார்த்து அழுத ஞாபகம் இல்லை. கடைசியாக மனதை உலுக்கிய படம் சேரனின் “தவமாய் தவமிருந்து” என நினைக்கிறேன். அதற்குப் பிறகு அந்த அளவுக்கு மனதை உலுக்கி எடுத்த படம் குசேலன்
விமர்சனங்கள் பெரும்பாலும் ரஜினி எனும் தனிமனிதன் மீதான வெறுப்பாகவே வெளிப்பட்டிருக்கின்றனவோ எனும் ஐயம் எழுகிறது
ayyam alla nijam :P
தேவையற்ற சில பாடல்களையும் பெரும்பாலான நகைச்சுவைக் காட்சிகளையும் வெட்டி விட்டுப் பார்த்தால் சமீபகாலமாக வந்த படங்களில் தரமான படங்களின் வரிசையில் வைக்கக் கூடிய அனைத்துத் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்ற ஒரு படம் குசேலன்.
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From: Thirumaran on 26th August 2008 11:52 AM [Full View]
Athayellaam eduthittu paartha padam oru 40 minutes varumaa Originally Posted by hamid
தேவையற்ற சில பாடல்களையும் பெரும்பாலான நகைச்சுவைக் காட்சிகளையும் வெட்டி விட்டுப் பார்த்தால் சமீபகாலமாக வந்த படங்களில் தரமான படங்களின் வரிசையில் வைக்கக் கூடிய அனைத்துத் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்ற ஒரு படம் குசேலன்.
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From: joe on 26th August 2008 01:19 PM [Full View]
"தரமில்லாத காட்சிகளையெல்லாம் நீக்கிவிட்டு பார்த்தால் இந்த படம் ஒரு தரமான படம் தான்" Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Athayellaam eduthittu paartha padam oru 40 minutes varumaa Originally Posted by hamid
தேவையற்ற சில பாடல்களையும் பெரும்பாலான நகைச்சுவைக் காட்சிகளையும் வெட்டி விட்டுப் பார்த்தால் சமீபகாலமாக வந்த படங்களில் தரமான படங்களின் வரிசையில் வைக்கக் கூடிய அனைத்துத் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்ற ஒரு படம் குசேலன்.
This statement fits for all movies ..but does it have any meaning?
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From: Raghu on 26th August 2008 02:29 PM [Full View]
intha komazhi, cinema-ku vanthathe thampu, evanoda appa periya komazhi, ithula Rajni sir pathi comment vera...aiyo aiyo Originally Posted by joe
Rajinikku pothatha kaalam thaan ..athukaga simbu-llam pesa aarampichutta
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...st/250808a.asp
oru pazha mozhi solluvanga ..Yaanai irukkura iruppa kandu erumpu ....
Joe anNe, neenga sonNa pazha mozhi intha komazhiku sariyaana porutham
vaada en matchi vazhaka bachi, 
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From: HonestRaj on 26th August 2008 02:30 PM [Full View]
This is a general statement... something similar to:
thevai illadha aaninu eppadi therunjukkuradhu
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From: Raghu on 26th August 2008 02:31 PM [Full View]
SS movies never had any VULGAR jokes, or scenes... even in Netrikan, SS being a womaniser, never had an vulgar jokes, but thanks to Vaachu , CM and Kuselan had all these crap
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From: Raghu on 26th August 2008 02:32 PM [Full View]
HonestRaj
Neenga unmaiyileye Honest-a
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From: sarna_blr on 26th August 2008 02:42 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Raghu
SS movies never had any VULGAR jokes, or scenes... even in Netrikan, SS being a womaniser, never had an vulgar jokes, but thanks to Vaachu , CM and Kuselan had all these crap
Have u seen Gayathri
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From: HonestRaj on 26th August 2008 02:54 PM [Full View]
Mudindhavarai :P !!!!! Originally Posted by Raghu
HonestRaj
Neenga unmaiyileye Honest-a
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From: Raghu on 26th August 2008 03:02 PM [Full View]
yes, but i cant remember such scenes... Originally Posted by sarna_blr
Originally Posted by Raghu
SS movies never had any VULGAR jokes, or scenes... even in Netrikan, SS being a womaniser, never had an vulgar jokes, but thanks to Vaachu , CM and Kuselan had all these crap Have u seen Gayathri
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From: Avadi to America on 26th August 2008 05:57 PM [Full View]
In Gayathri, rajini is villan and jai shankar is a hero. i did not see any vulgar dialogues. but the movie itself delas with adult content....the movie released`way ahead of time as for as concerning tamil film industry. this movie came when porn movies ruled the roost in hollywood and european cinemas. i feel SUJATHA had guts to write such stories in 70s.
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From: joe on 26th August 2008 07:29 PM [Full View]
Few people don't know the difference between adultry and vulgarity
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From: P_R on 26th August 2008 07:46 PM [Full View]
Disagree. There have been several instances of Rajini resorting to vulgar comedy even without Vasu. (kadavuLE @annamalai) Originally Posted by Raghu
CM was perhaps the lowest. Or atleast I found it so because I didnt find it funny either.
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From: sarna_blr on 26th August 2008 07:51 PM [Full View]
1... I agree here Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
1....Disagree. There have been several instances of Rajini resorting to vulgar comedy even without Vasu. (kadavuLE @annamalai) Originally Posted by Raghu
2...CM was perhaps the lowest. Or atleast I found it so because I didnt find it funny either.
2... I agree here too
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From: Nerd on 26th August 2008 08:05 PM [Full View]
I did not find that annamalai scene repulsive. Several instances??
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From: m_23_bayarea on 26th August 2008 08:51 PM [Full View]
Very good one! And totally believable too, cos it comes from Bhagyaraj! Originally Posted by Nerd
Very encouraging to see some real mature ppl in the industry supporting Thalaiver... As we all know, Bhagyaraj was one of the top runners in the 80s, unlike some nutcases that were never "any" runners, but all they do is talk, bla bla bla...
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From: Avadi to America on 26th August 2008 11:59 PM [Full View]
(kadavuLE @annamalai)
I do not see any vulgarity in Annamalai scene....
For instance, there was a kind of same scene in telugu movie where heroine see hero in bathroom and she get faint. Later when she was in hospital, she was asked few questions by comedians who were describing what she saw in the bath room and why she did faint. this is what i felt vulgarity.
JOE,
"Few people don't know the difference between adultry and vulgarity"
Did the question direct at me?
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From: Murali Srinivas on 27th August 2008 12:08 AM [Full View]
Thanks Nerd. Regarding MG + % sharing, i just wanted to give Joe a basic idea and not to confuse him. Moreover from what I hear, this MG +% thing varies from film to film and star to star. So I didn't go into that. Originally Posted by Nerd
Murali Sir, nice articulative post as usual. You have not touched upon the MG + % thingi of these days I guess. As CR also had mentioned, % basis is history now. But the theater owners are trying to avoid the MG thingi after the kusElan fiasco. But the theater owners have the power and ability to manipulate the DCR and in that sense they are very powerful
Bay,
You wanted me to write about Rajini and his films (which I would do when I get time). I have written about Rajini and his earlier films (albeit briefly) in the latest Paadalgal Palavitham song. Please check the current topics.
Regards
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From: Roshan on 27th August 2008 12:14 AM [Full View]
To me Rajini's so called advices to "peNNinam" sound more offensive than those vulgar comedies. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Disagree. There have been several instances of Rajini resorting to vulgar comedy even without Vasu. (kadavuLE @annamalai) Originally Posted by Raghu
CM was perhaps the lowest. Or atleast I found it so because I didnt find it funny either.
KadavuLE in Annamalai was repeated wise versa in another movie. Was that in Pandiyan?
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From: Movie Cop on 27th August 2008 12:40 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Athayellaam eduthittu paartha padam oru 40 minutes varumaa Originally Posted by hamid
தேவையற்ற சில பாடல்களையும் பெரும்பாலான நகைச்சுவைக் காட்சிகளையும் வெட்டி விட்டுப் பார்த்தால் சமீபகாலமாக வந்த படங்களில் தரமான படங்களின் வரிசையில் வைக்கக் கூடிய அனைத்துத் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்ற ஒரு படம் குசேலன்.
Well said, Joe! Originally Posted by joe
"தரமில்லாத காட்சிகளையெல்லாம் நீக்கிவிட்டு பார்த்தால் இந்த படம் ஒரு தரமான படம் தான்"
This statement fits for all movies ..but does it have any meaning?
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From: Nerd on 27th August 2008 01:24 AM [Full View]
ahem MC have you seen the film?
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From: Raghu on 27th August 2008 01:45 AM [Full View]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHczj...eature=related
ithu epadi iruku
chumma athiruthella :P :P :P :P
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 06:37 AM [Full View]
No Originally Posted by Avadi to America
.It is regarding Gayathri
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From: Movie Cop on 27th August 2008 06:49 AM [Full View]
Nerd - I haven't seen Kuselan except for some you tube/online clippings. And not planning to watch the film based on the reviews/comments from web sites & friends! Originally Posted by Nerd
That is only for Thiru's comment which I found to be really funny and also in perfect synch with what I heard thro' some of my friends who are HC RK fans!
Didn't mean to hurt RK fan sentiments here but whenever I occasionally about Kuselan it is meant only for "Iyakunar Imayam" Pee Vaashu!
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 07:33 AM [Full View]
OK.. there it goes again.. people are only ready and jumping to talk about the negative things
( which is accepted as bad by everybody) and purposely diluting the positive things...
as said in that review..
//விமர்சனங்கள் சொன்னது போல குசேலன் மட்டமான படம் அல்ல. விமர்சனங்கள் பெரும்பாலும் ரஜினி எனும் தனிமனிதன் மீதான வெறுப்பாகவே வெளிப்பட்டிருக்கின்றனவோ எனும் ஐயம் எழுகிறது. //
the effect is
//குசேலன் திரைப்படத்தை இத்தனை தாமதமாய் பார்த்ததற்குக் காரணம் நான் இணையத்தில் வாசித்த எதிர் விமர்சனங்கள் தான் காரணம். குசேலன் மகா குப்பை என்றும், இதை விட பத்து பத்து படத்தை பத்து வாட்டி பார்க்கலாம் என்றும் விமர்-ஜனங்கள் சொன்ன பின் படத்தைப் பார்க்க வேண்டுமா என ஓரமாய் ஒதுங்கிவிட்டேன்.//
fine.. so be it..
//This statement fits for all movies ..but does it have any meaning?//
hmm.. most of the classic movies also have some unwanted scenes.. But those movies are not judged only by those scenes.
I can give few good examples, but this post will be deleted imm.
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 08:14 AM [Full View]
That is why i said it fits for all movies Originally Posted by hamid
How long will you guys repeat this 'PuLithu pona' slogan ,that too when respond to meI can give few good examples, but this post will be deleted imm.
..I have better things to do
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From: directhit on 27th August 2008 08:35 AM [Full View]
Joe, guess this movie's main drawback has been the unwanted addition of some comedy scenes and others - adha remove pannittaa the movie wud be similar to the malayalam classic nu blogger mean panniyirukkalaam illayaa Originally Posted by joe
That is why i said it fits for all movies Originally Posted by hamid
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 08:50 AM [Full View]
Direct Hit,
I havn't seen the movie (This is the first Rajini movie i missed in theatre since Raajathi Raja days ,including Nattuku oru Nallavan ,Blood stone,Athisaya Piravi) ,so i don't want to comment ..My statement was a general one.
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 09:10 AM [Full View]
Yes.. but what I intend to say is diff. .But those movies are not judged only by those scenes. Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by hamid
//This statement fits for all movies ..but does it have any meaning?//
hmm.. most of the classic movies also have some unwanted scenes.. But those movies are not judged only by those scenes.
That is why i said it fits for all movies
Oops.. Dear Joe, It was a general statement. definitely not intended to you. Originally Posted by joe
How long will you guys repeat this 'PuLithu pona' slogan ,that too when respond to meI can give few good examples, but this post will be deleted imm.
..I have better things to do
my last posts are deleted for no reason.. thats y i said it. It might be a pulithu pona slogan.. but was there any answer to this by anybody anywhr?.. pls let me know. anyway let me stop this here itself.
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 09:15 AM [Full View]
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Dont come to final conclusion only based on reviews. If possible watch the movie sometime and let us know your review.. I feel u'll like most of the movie..
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From: Thirumaran on 27th August 2008 09:38 AM [Full View]
Intha maathiri usupaethi usupaethi thaan niraya paer niraya padam paarthiduraanga or paarka vaikapaduraanga Originally Posted by hamid
Joe,
Dont come to final conclusion only based on reviews. If possible watch the movie sometime and let us know your review.. I feel u'll like most of the movie.. 
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 11:36 AM [Full View]
I will watch it when original VCD is available and post my review. Originally Posted by hamid
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Dont come to final conclusion only based on reviews. If possible watch the movie sometime and let us know your review.. I feel u'll like most of the movie..
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 11:56 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
I will watch it when original VCD is available and post my review. Originally Posted by hamid
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Dont come to final conclusion only based on reviews. If possible watch the movie sometime and let us know your review.. I feel u'll like most of the movie..
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by hamid
Originally Posted by joe
I will watch it when original VCD is available and post my review. Originally Posted by hamid
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Dont come to final conclusion only based on reviews. If possible watch the movie sometime and let us know your review.. I feel u'll like most of the movie.. Inimel theatre-la poi paakuRathukku vaaippu kidaikkuma theriyalla ..Ippo naan irukkuRa oorula thamizh padam mattumila ,cinema theatre-ye irukka-nnu theriyalla
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:14 PM [Full View]
Hamid,
Joe is in singapore and please note that he said "Original VCD" (he will be buying it - I believe and he won't be watching it online )
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:16 PM [Full View]
mm.. entha oor athunu sollunga Joe.... ellaraiyum anga naadu kadathidalaam.. Originally Posted by joe
..Ippo naan irukkuRa oorula thamizh padam mattumila ,cinema theatre-ye irukka-nnu theriyalla
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 12:23 PM [Full View]
Cambodia Originally Posted by hamid
mm.. entha oor athunu sollunga Joe.... ellaraiyum anga naadu kadathidalaam.. Originally Posted by joe
..Ippo naan irukkuRa oorula thamizh padam mattumila ,cinema theatre-ye irukka-nnu theriyalla
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:24 PM [Full View]
Selva, Originally Posted by selvakumar
Hamid,
Joe is in singapore and please note that he said "Original VCD" (he will be buying it - I believe and he won't be watching it online )
point noted..
aana singaporela thtr oovara irukkee???
Joe,
VDC vaangina receipta anuppi vachidunga..
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:26 PM [Full View]
thanni illaatha kaatukku maatharathunnu keelvi pattu irukken.. Originally Posted by joe
Cambodia Originally Posted by hamid
mm.. entha oor athunu sollunga Joe.... ellaraiyum anga naadu kadathidalaam.. Originally Posted by joe
..Ippo naan irukkuRa oorula thamizh padam mattumila ,cinema theatre-ye irukka-nnu theriyalla
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:26 PM [Full View]
ithukku Joe pathil solluvaar.. illena anoops solluvaar Originally Posted by hamid
Selva,
point noted..
aana singaporela thtr oovara irukkee???
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 12:27 PM [Full View]
I will be back to singapore next week .Once VCD is out ,it will be available in Rental shop (3 dollors) ,i will send the rental receipt Originally Posted by hamid
Joe,
VDC vaangina receipta anuppi vachidunga..
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:29 PM [Full View]
athaan naan sollureene.. (I was thr for 6-7 months before.. Originally Posted by selvakumar
ithukku Joe pathil solluvaar.. illena anoops solluvaar Originally Posted by hamid
Selva,
point noted..
aana singaporela thtr oovara irukkee??? )
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:29 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
I will be back to singapore next week .Once VCD is out ,it will be available in Rental shop (3 dollors) ,i will send the rental receipt Originally Posted by hamid
Joe,
VDC vaangina receipta anuppi vachidunga..
Scan panni engalukku upload pannunaathaan nambuvoem :P
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:31 PM [Full View]
VCD rental 3 dollarsa? Originally Posted by joe
I will be back to singapore next week .Once VCD is out ,it will be available in Rental shop (3 dollors) ,i will send the rental receipt Originally Posted by hamid
Joe,
VDC vaangina receipta anuppi vachidunga..
I hv bought original DVDs for 10 dollars....
(have u seen the movie "I not Stupid" there? i loved that movie..esp the second part)
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:32 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Originally Posted by joe
I will be back to singapore next week .Once VCD is out ,it will be available in Rental shop (3 dollors) ,i will send the rental receipt Originally Posted by hamid
Joe,
VDC vaangina receipta anuppi vachidunga..
Scan panni engalukku upload pannunaathaan nambuvoem :P
Selva,
ungala vasanathukku vasanam threadla theedinaanga...FYI.
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From: joe on 27th August 2008 12:36 PM [Full View]
Hamid ,
It is 2 to 3 dollors (depends on shops) ..Chineese running VCD rental shops ,you can have great comedies ..since they don't know who is stars in Tamil and who has better market ..in one shop i have seen.. they have 5 copies of Sivaji' and 10 copies of 'Cheena Thaana"
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:40 PM [Full View]
hamid, VV la enga ?? link kodunga
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From: hamid on 27th August 2008 12:44 PM [Full View]
Selva, Originally Posted by selvakumar
hamid, VV la enga ?? link kodunga
thr was come chatting/discussion on Ajith's amarkkalam.. I think those pages are removed now
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:54 PM [Full View]
<dig> Ya... I got the info in CC. http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...512004#1512004 Thanks hamid Originally Posted by hamid
Selva, Originally Posted by selvakumar
hamid, VV la enga ?? link kodunga
thr was come chatting/discussion on Ajith's amarkkalam.. I think those pages are removed now </dig>
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From: Raghu on 27th August 2008 02:11 PM [Full View]
I sincerely hope SS get rid of vaachu from his 'Trusted' directors list and stick with Shanker as from now on.. even KSV was much better than Vaachu
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From: Nerd on 27th August 2008 06:58 PM [Full View]
I saw the original last night. Idha apdiyE scene-by-scene eduthirunthAlum flop aayirikkum. 80s material as far as TFI is considered.
- Almost 70% scenes were copied, including dialogues.
- Most of the characters are there in the Mallu version too.
- Only the part 2 scenes are new which explains why mammooty just comes for 20 mins.
- Pasupathy was better than srinivasan I thought, though pasu had only one expression in the whole movie
- meena was better in the original
- comedy - so-so in both
- very last scene, the meeting was better in thamizh.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 27th August 2008 08:39 PM [Full View]
ithai thaan nan appove sonnen, all this freinds meeting after long time is a too old core which even vikraman has exploited... Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: m_23_bayarea on 27th August 2008 10:46 PM [Full View]
Thanks, Murali! Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
Looking forward to your writings on Rajini on his old movies... We have a thread exclusively for that... :P
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From: omega on 27th August 2008 10:58 PM [Full View]
Mmmm thats interesting. Never expected that. Originally Posted by Nerd
Anyway, I thought Vaachu messed up big time in his picturization, mainly the village feel was missing. The characters were the other big let down. I agree the script itself was so bland & simple. Only a neat presentation could have saved the film, which was woefully missing.
I am happy in a way that atleast Rajini's scenes are good (other than the songs offcourse).
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From: Karikalen on 28th August 2008 05:01 AM [Full View]
Saw the movie yesterday. I didnt like the movie. Rajni saves the movie in the end from being a total disaster.
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 07:51 AM [Full View]
தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள் ரஜினிக்கு கடிதம்
ஆகஸ்ட் 28,2008,00:00 IST
சென்னை: "குசேலன் படப் பிரச்னையை வரும் செப்டம்பர் ஒன்றாம் தேதிக்குள்ளாக தீர்த்து வைத்து உதவ வேண்டும்' என்று நடிகர் ரஜினிகாந்துக்கு தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள் சங்கம் கடிதம் எழுதியுள்ளது. ரஜினி நடித்த "குசேலன்' படத்தால் தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள் நஷ்டமடைந்துள்ளதாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது. இப்பிரச்னை குறித்து படத்தின் தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் தரப்பும், தமிழ்த் திரைப்படத் தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் சங்கமும் மவுனம் காத்து வந்தன. ஆனால், "ரஜினி, பாலச்சந்தர், செவன் ஆர்ட்ஸ் மற்றும் பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனங்களின் நிர்வாகிகள் அடங்கிய ரகசிய கூட்டம் நடந்ததாகவும் இதில் இந்த நஷ்ட ஈடு குறித்து இறுதி முடிவு எடுக்கப்படவில்லை' என்றும் தகவல்கள் வெளியானது.
படப் பிரச்னையில் ஏதாவது முடிவுக்கு வருவார்கள் என்று காத்திருந்த தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்களுக்கு, தயாரிப்பாளர் மற்றும் வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் தரப்பிலிருந்து எந்த பதிலும் வராததால் தற்போது ரஜினியின் உதவியை நாடியுள்ளனர். இதற்காக ரஜினிக்கு கடிதம் மூலம் வேண்டுகோள் விடுத்துள்ளனர். "இப்பிரச்னையை 31ம் தேதிக்குள்ளாக பேசித் தீர்த்துவைக்க உதவ வேண்டும்' என்றும் கேட்டுக்கொண்டுள்ளனர். இப்பிரச்னைக்குத் தீர்வு எட்டப்படாவிட்டால் செப்டம்பர் முதல் தேதி, தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள் கூட்டத்தை சென்னையில் நடத்தி, அதில் முடிவெடுக்க தீர்மானிக்கப்பட்டது.
ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள் ஆத்திரம்: "ரஜினி'யின் "குசேலன்' படம் தொடர்பாக தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள் பிரச்னையில் இறங்கியுள்ளதால் ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள் ஆத்திரமடைந்துள்ளனர். ""படம் வெளியான முதல் வாரம் முழுவதும் தியேட்டர் டிக்கெட் கட்டணத்தை அதிரடியாக விற்றனர். 100 ரூபாய்க்கு குறைந்து எந்தத் தியேட்டரிலும் டிக்கெட் விற்கப்படவில்லை. ஒரு தியேட்டரில் குறைந்தது 800 இருக்கைகள் வரை உள்ளன. முதல் நான்கு நாட்கள் அனைத்து காட்சிகளும் "ஹவுஸ் புல்'லாக ஓடியுள்ளது. 100 ரூபாய் கட்டணம் என கணக்கிட்டு பார்த்தால் ஒரு நாளைக்கு நான்கு காட்சிகள் வீதம், நான்கு நாட்களில் 12 லட்சத்து 80 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் கிடைத்திருக்கும். அதன் பிறகு சில நாட்கள் 80 சதவீதம், 70 சதவீதம், 60 சதவீதம் வசூல் கிடைத்துள்ளது. இப்படி 10 நாட்களுக்குள் குறைந்தது 15 லட்சம் ரூபாய் கிடைத்திருக்கும். படம் தொடர்ந்து ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறது. தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் மற்றும் வினியோகஸ்தர்களிடம் பிரச்னையை தீர்த்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டிய தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்கள், இப்பிரச்னையில் ரஜினியை இழுத்துவிடப் பார்ப்பது தவறான போக்கு,'' என ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள் பொங்குகின்றனர்.
தியேட்டர் உரிமையாளர்களுக்கு எதிராக தமிழகம் முழுவதும் போர்க்கொடி உயர்த்த ரஜினியின் அனுமதியை பெறுவதற்காக பல மாவட்டங்களைச் சேர்ந்த ரஜினி ரசிகர் மன்றத் தலைவர்கள், தீவிர ரசிகர்களும் ரஜினியை சந்திக்க நேற்று சென்னை வர அனுமதி கேட்டிருந்தனர். இதற்கு, "சென்னைக்கு வரவேண்டாம். படப் பிரச்னை சில நாட்களில் சுமுகமாக முடிந்து விடும்' என, ரசிகர் மன்றத் தலைவர் மூலம் மாவட்ட நிர்வாகிகளுக்கு தகவல் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டதால் ரசிகர்கள் சென்னைக்கு நேற்று வரவில்லை.
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Though the fans are little exaggerating, the 70%, 80%, 90% LOSS stories by the theater owners are blatant lies
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 07:57 AM [Full View]
“Kuselan much better than Katha Parayumbol”
Jayaram, the Malayalam actor has captured Tamil audience with his humorous and serious roles in many Tamil films. He has been acclaimed as an artist with versatile capabilities who can deliver any role with consummate ease. Recently he was found sharing a few sound bytes with some journalist friends while he was shooting for Panjamirdam at Ooty. On
Panjamirdam, Jayaram said that this film would not have any double entendres or obscene sequences. This film will be intended for children.
When talking about the current remake trend in the industry, the actor said that while remaking old classics, care should be taken to retain the original flavor. He also added that he is acting in the remake of old classic ‘Kadalikka Neramillai’. He further says, “When Tamil films get dubbed into Malayalam, it runs successfully but the same cannot be said for Malayalam films. But the recently released Kuselan was better in Tamil than in the original Malayalam Katha Parayumbol and the credit should go to the entire team.”
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-27-08-08.html
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 08:01 AM [Full View]
Nerd,
Just a clarification ..I am in a opinion that 60% of the theatres released kuselan are controlled by Saimeera (who is the distributor) itself ..Right ? ..So only 40% of the theatres (owners) only complain ..right ? If so ,if kuselan is purposely brought down by this 40% theatre owners ,it should be steady in 60% saimeera controlled theatres ..Is it happening ? (sorry for my ignorance in this matter ,if i am uLaRifying something )
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 08:02 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Though the fans are little exaggerating, the 70%, 80%, 90% LOSS stories by the theater owners are blatant lies and everybody knows it.. it is just making use of circumstances and try to get the most of it..
I read a news today that mudi vettum thozilaalar sangam is unhappy with the film on how their community is portrayed in kuselan and will be going for a protest against director vasu..after a month of release they found it. it seems..
it might be followed by nari kuravar sangam and go on.....
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 08:04 AM [Full View]
I feel Nerd is saying about the figures of the losses only. not about the BO.. Originally Posted by joe
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 08:06 AM [Full View]
I don't think its 60-40 Originally Posted by joe
Nerd,
Just a clarification ..I am in a opinion that 60% of the theatres released kuselan are controlled by Saimeera (who is the distributor) itself ..Right ? ..So only 40% of the theatres (owners) only complain ..right ? If so ,if kuselan is purposely brought down by this 40% theatre owners ,it should be steady in 60% saimeera controlled theatres ..Is it happening ? (sorry for my ignorance in this matter ,if i am uLaRifying something )
1. The movie is not doing well. It is a FLOP.
2. My (our) only concern is the percentage of losses reported by the theater owners.
3. Saimira as distributors would have suffered losses, but thats not an issue here.
4. Theater owners are milking the situation to gain extra cash.
The 21L MG I posted was in MayilAduthuRai (Vijaya I think). It was housefull (not the capacity) for the first three days. Sold shows to fanclubs at ~30K a show. So at the most, in five days they would have recovered 40% of the MG and the owner has reported 90% loss
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 08:13 AM [Full View]
after a loong time i was talking to one of my friends in UK.. a part of it below..
have u seen any movies..
yes..Kuselan.
Howz it?
kuppai..
I expected that from u..anyway except comedies and nayanthara part the movie is good rt?
hamid.. Rajini comes only for a while..
mm..
hamid.. they shd hv done it this way..they shd have made it as a ordinary movie without revealing Rajini in it.. and rajini shd come only at climax.. it wud be good.
ei.. aakara kathaiya pesudi.. rajini iruminaale news podaraanga.. ithula pooy suspense ellaam..
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 08:17 AM [Full View]
Thanks Nerd!
The 60-40 ust i assume ,since when i watched the theatre owners press meet video ,that guy mentioned approximate number of theatres (kuselan released) controlled by sai and rest owned by them .
I also agree with you on the exaggration of 90% loss and there are people who make this opertunity to get some money ,eventhough their loss is relatively low (Govt NivaRana nithi kudukkum pothu unmaiyilaye niraya loss aanavangaLum ,konjama loss anavangalum ore amount vaangurA MAATHIRI) .
IMO , Balachander or Pushbha should come into picture instead of putting everything on Rajini's shoulder.
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From: directhit on 28th August 2008 08:22 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
infact nothing should be on Rajini's resp - but he himself said to not drag KB into this
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 09:10 AM [Full View]
hamid, the whole circumsances what ever u say is iteslf initiated and created by themselves only! so nothing sort of 'making use of' et all Originally Posted by hamid
Originally Posted by Nerd
Though the fans are little exaggerating, the 70%, 80%, 90% LOSS stories by the theater owners are blatant lies and everybody knows it.. it is just making use of circumstances and try to get the most of it..
also, the initial collections, maybe, maybe, from the total collections part distributors share wud have been more and exibitors still got less amount may be. distributors dont have any extra expenses apart from paying a meagre sum to the guys who actually goes to theatre to monitor collections. but exibitors have more expenses like Electricity bill, tax ect.
also, like joe said, the losses maybe even 75% or so, and exibitors wantedly ask for 90% in the standard assumption that, "ivlo ketta than atleast avlo vaachum kedaikkum"
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 09:36 AM [Full View]
Sakala, Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
hamid, the whole circumsances what ever u say is iteslf initiated and created by themselves only! so nothing sort of 'making use of' et all Originally Posted by hamid
Originally Posted by Nerd
Though the fans are little exaggerating, the 70%, 80%, 90% LOSS stories by the theater owners are blatant lies and everybody knows it.. it is just making use of circumstances and try to get the most of it..
whom do you refer as themselves... Vasu+producers or the theatre owners??
Sakala, Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Yes.. the flim has suffered losses..nobody is dening that.. The theatre owners are manipulating the figures.. thats the point.. how much is upto everybody's guess...
also the main issue is , the theatre owners has no right to ask back the money.. thats not a fair business..
same thing I asked before,
when an underrated movie becomes a super hit and the theatre owners get huge profits, will they give more money to producers? and if the hero asks for more salary after the movie becomes a hit will tht be accpetable???
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 09:44 AM [Full View]
idhenna chinna pulla thanamaa irukku Originally Posted by hamid
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 09:52 AM [Full View]
the profits what theatre owners get on successful mocies is not as great as what producers and distributors get. they are in the last line of recieving end, eventho money is seen 1st in their place. Originally Posted by hamid
some ppl speak about chandramuki success. the only common factor is rajni but the producers distributors are different. it maybe that even they wud not have screened that movie in their town. its senseless to bring in about other movies.
also note that for chandramuki the theatre owners got surplus of wht ehey invested and so they wont ask for anything.. but kuselan is not the case.
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 09:52 AM [Full View]
EKSI Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
99% of the movies are sold in MG basis which means the %es come to picture only after the MG amount is collected.
Electricity bill?? yEn cycle stand, bike stand, car parking collections ellAm? theater owners-E aaL vechu black tickets vikkuRadhu? Also I think the *rent* covers operating expenses..
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 09:53 AM [Full View]
hamid, Originally Posted by hamid
Ofcourse they cannot claim legally ..court-kku pona nikkathu
But you have to understand ..First of all Cine industry is not accepted as a *Official indstry* by Govt .Most of the dealing between distributors and theatre owners are not done with written papers ,but just a mutual understanding ,i mean ,verbal understanding only .. so nothing can be done legally.
Now also theatre owners claim the refund not 'legally' ,but 'Thaarmeega' basis .. If producer or Rajini denied ,they can't do anything legally ,but they can do self restriction ,i mean a unofficial boycott for further business ..so both parties are working to solve the issue in 'தார்மீக அடிப்படையில்' .
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 09:54 AM [Full View]
Sakala its your arguments that are senseless, and you know absolutely nothing about the scenario which is quite apparent from your posts.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 09:56 AM [Full View]
the concern is only about those who brought in MG. and Mg means the money goes to producer\distributor till that money is collected and only after that money comes to exibitor right? Originally Posted by Nerd
EKSI Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
99% of the movies are sold in MG basis which means the %es come to picture only after the MG amount is collected.
Electricity bill?? yEn cycle stand, bike stand, car parking expenses ellAm? theater owners-E aaL vechu black tickets vikkuRadhu? Also I think the *rent* covers operating expenses..
nerd, car parking cycle arking et all are PROFITS to theatre! not expenses electricity bill shud be huge, its not ignorable i guess
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
enna panna, ungala pola enakku rajiniyoda direct contact illai thaan Originally Posted by Nerd
Sakala its your arguments that are senseless, and you know absolutely nothing about the scenario which is quite apparent from your posts.
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 09:58 AM [Full View]
And the whole issue is on the MG. They need their MG back. Get that in your head please Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
sabbA, theriyalEnA vitturungaLEn
Btw, unga aRivujeevithanamaana correction-kku munnAdiyE naan edit pannittEn, FYKI
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 10:01 AM [Full View]
naan enge correct\edit pannen?!? en remba tension aagureenga nerd
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 10:02 AM [Full View]
neenga enna correct panneenga saar. You corrected my mistake showing glimpses of your genius.
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 10:03 AM [Full View]
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
hamid, Originally Posted by hamid
Ofcourse they cannot claim legally ..court-kku pona nikkathu
But you have to understand ..First of all Cine industry is not accepted as a *Official indstry* by Govt .Most of the dealing between distributors and theatre owners are not done with written papers ,but just a mutual understanding ,i mean ,verbal understanding only .. so nothing can be done legally.
Now also theatre owners claim the refund not 'legally' ,but 'Thaarmeega' basis .. If producer or Rajini denied ,they can't do anything legally ,but they can do self restriction ,i mean a unofficial boycott for further business ..so both parties are working to solve the issue in 'தார்மீக அடிப்படையில்' .
I completely agree. but it is nor a fair business. Since they know Rajini might give. they r trying it.. fine... no issues.. but for the same manipulating and degrading and taking advantage of the gesture is very bad.their morality sucks here..
they shd accpet whatever they can get,, but saying this is not enough.. u hv to give these much etc.., are bullshit..
also not co operating is worst blackmailing..
and the most important culprit is Vasu here, who said it was a full Rajini movie...thats whr the problem starts..
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 10:03 AM [Full View]
ennavo, thirunthinaa sari thaan
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 10:05 AM [Full View]
neengaLum thirunthitteenga pOla, theriyAdha vishayatha pathi pEsAma, ennOda state-of-mind pathi pEsa aarambichiteenga. Very good. Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
ennavo, thirunthinaa sari thaan
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 10:07 AM [Full View]
i wonder at one thing..during ticket sales the distributors agenst will be in each and evey theatre.so they shud know the real collections. and producers have direct contact with distributors. its business and its their money, so if exibitors tell wrong sum, producers will be knowing that much before and much well than others. the collection process is monitored by respective parties Originally Posted by hamid
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 10:07 AM [Full View]
naan ungalapathi sonnatha nalla dosai thiruppi pottuteenga Originally Posted by Nerd
neengaLum thirunthitteenga pOla, theriyAdha vishayatha pathi pEsAma, ennOda state-of-mind pathi pEsa aarambichiteenga. Very good. Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
ennavo, thirunthinaa sari thaan
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 10:13 AM [Full View]
hamid ,
The theatre owners didn't blame Rajini or bad mouth him (atleast in open place) and they praised Rajini sky high as 'Maamanithan' and they too mentioning how he has helped them and how they gained previously .
But now they say They bought the movie not for Balachander or Pushpa or P.Vasu ,but just for the name Rajini and was told that it is Rajini movie ..That is why they are asking Rajini (in basis of Thaarmeegam) ..They also know they can't force ..That is why they are in pleasing mode
So it is not a legal battle ..It is just a mutual business claim (They have right or not ,is a different issue) ..Avangalukku right irukka illaiyannu Rajini thaan decide pannaNum ....simbu ,vishal padathukellam ippadi keppangala -nna .. It is a sin to compare Rajini with them ..Rajini is Super Star.
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 10:14 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
i wonder at one thing..during ticket sales the distributors agenst will be in each and evey theatre.so they shud know the real collections. and producers have direct contact with distributors. its business and its their money, so if exibitors tell wrong sum, producers will be knowing that much before and much well than others. the collection process is monitored by respective parties Originally Posted by hamid
sakala
ithellaam romba oovar...
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 10:20 AM [Full View]
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
hamid ,
The theatre owners didn't blame Rajini or bad mouth him (atleast in open place) and they praised Rajini sky high as 'Maamanithan' and they too mentioning how he has helped them and how they gained previously .
But now they say They bought the movie not for Balachander or Pushpa or P.Vasu ,but just for the name Rajini and was told that it is Rajini movie ..That is why they are asking Rajini (in basis of Thaarmeegam) ..They also know they can't force ..That is why they are in pleasing mode
So it is not a legal battle ..It is just a mutual business claim (They have right or not ,is a different issue) ..Avangalukku right irukka illaiyannu Rajini thaan decide pannaNum ....simbu ,vishal padathukellam ippadi keppangala -nna .. It is a sin to compare Rajini with them ..Rajini is Super Star.
I am not against paying something to them.. it is a gesture.. im happy.. but manipulaing the figures indirectly hits Rajini.. pls dont ask how..
also their praises are not worth of mentioning, since all was said to get money.. if Rajini declines, the same people will talk diff..sure u know.
for rajini's name.. Rajini told sooo many times. he is doing a guest role.. comes only for 25%.. but nobody ready to listen.. they become greedy.. and they have to accept their fault and pay from their pocket too..
Let rajini pay them some amount. but they demanding is atrocious and not acceptable as far as I am concerned...
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 10:29 AM [Full View]
Don't worry ..I too agree theatre owners exaggrate. Originally Posted by hamid
Ofcourse.also their praises are not worth of mentioning, since all was said to get money.. if Rajini declines, the same people will talk diff..sure u know.
In my very old post in this same threat ,I too said they deserve this as they are greedy ..but if you say theatre owners are greedy ,pls accept the director ,producer and distributer are alsoi greedy ..because they misuse Rajini's name to sell the movie in undeserved amount .for rajini's name.. Rajini told sooo many times. he is doing a guest role.. comes only for 25%.. but nobody ready to listen.. they become greedy.. and they have to accept their fault and pay from their pocket too..
I don't support Rajini to pay the amount ..But producer or distributor should do ..Rajini just has the 'thaarmeega 'responsibility to sort out the issue.Let rajini pay them some amount. but they demanding is atrocious and not acceptable as far as I am concerned...
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 10:42 AM [Full View]
Yes Joe.. I remember that post v.well.. Also I agree 100% on director/producer/distributor also become greedy... Originally Posted by joe
distributor will also face losses since they also thtr owners.. so they got it..
Rajini is paying for KB's part, since he didnt want to disturb KB.. thats ok..
Director?? how can he pay ? but he is the root cause for all this.
i dont mid him paying..I don't support Rajini to pay the amount ..But producer or distributor should do ..Rajini just has the 'thaarmeega 'responsibility to sort out the issue.
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 11:34 AM [Full View]
Pls check ,i didn't include director in 'to pay' list ,but included in Greedy list ,since apart from Rajini's statement of his invlovement is just 25% ,Vasu later claimed he made changes in a way SS will come throughout the movie ,so it is very much SS movie ..He said that in Vijay TV programme also Originally Posted by hamid
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From: joe on 28th August 2008 11:36 AM [Full View]
I too don't mind him to pay ..Namma kaasa panama Originally Posted by hamid
i dont mid him paying..
But I think it is not necessary Rajini to pay.
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 11:51 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
I too don't mind him to pay ..Namma kaasa panama Originally Posted by hamid
i dont mid him paying..
agreed.. itz not necessary.. i never said tht.. Originally Posted by joe
But I think it is not necessary Rajini to pay. but i think he will pay..
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From: hamid on 28th August 2008 11:53 AM [Full View]
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Pls check ,i didn't include director in 'to pay' list ,but included in Greedy list ,since apart from Rajini's statement of his invlovement is just 25% ,Vasu later claimed he made changes in a way SS will come throughout the movie ,so it is very much SS movie ..He said that in Vijay TV programme also Originally Posted by hamid
i didnt say u included him.. but i said he is the main culprit.. fine .. letz move on..
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From: P_R on 28th August 2008 12:00 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
I too don't mind him to pay ..Namma kaasa panama
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From: comments on 28th August 2008 12:21 PM [Full View]
Anyone remotely following Tamil cinema news would have known that Rajini's role was an extended cameo. For the exhibitors/theatre owners to claim otherwise is just plain lying.
The reality is that everyone [Producer, Director, Rajini, Exhibitor, etc] thought that the extended cameo would be sufficient to bring in people like a full-fledged Rajini movie. It didn't. So they can just own up to their mistake/gamble and make a request on sympathy grounds. Something like "Movie was sold for a much higher price than its production cost. Can you share some of our losses based on Manithabimaanam?". But I guess nothing will come their way if they do that. That's why they are being aggressive and going to the media to put pressure. I would be surprised if Rajini didn't get a percentage of the sales price. That's probably one of the reasons why they are appealing to him.
One thing I don't understand is why Rajini felt the need to try to make it a big commercial hit. If he liked the story, he could just make it as a simple movie with a good director and sold it at a reasonable price. Anyway Robot is in the pipeline. Agreed that Vasu had a big hand in it, but the final say was with Rajini. It seems it's all about the box-office in Tamil film industry!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 28th August 2008 01:06 PM [Full View]
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From: Raghu on 28th August 2008 03:00 PM [Full View]
well said ! Originally Posted by joe
Don't worry ..I too agree theatre owners exaggrate. Originally Posted by hamid
Ofcourse.also their praises are not worth of mentioning, since all was said to get money.. if Rajini declines, the same people will talk diff..sure u know.
In my very old post in this same threat ,I too said they deserve this as they are greedy ..but if you say theatre owners are greedy ,pls accept the director ,producer and distributer are alsoi greedy ..because they misuse Rajini's name to sell the movie in undeserved amount .for rajini's name.. Rajini told sooo many times. he is doing a guest role.. comes only for 25%.. but nobody ready to listen.. they become greedy.. and they have to accept their fault and pay from their pocket too..
I don't support Rajini to pay the amount ..But producer or distributor should do ..Rajini just has the 'thaarmeega 'responsibility to sort out the issue.Let rajini pay them some amount. but they demanding is atrocious and not acceptable as far as I am concerned...
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From: Avadi to America on 28th August 2008 06:14 PM [Full View]
"simbu ,vishal padathukellam ippadi keppangala -nna .. It is a sin to compare Rajini with them ..Rajini is Super Star."
among actors, they won't ask to anyone other than rajini. because they know they won't get it back.
Two reasons.
1. rajini concerns more exhibitors and others in his business.
2. if rajini movie fails the lose his big because the business is big. many places the movie was sold out in flat rate (not % basis). so exhibitors are in more stake.
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From: thamiz on 29th August 2008 07:12 AM [Full View]
Still running in 4 theatres in Madurai!
Trichy- Rambha ?
Only 3 theatres in Chennai!!!
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From: thamiz on 29th August 2008 07:13 AM [Full View]
In south it is still running in B/C centers!
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From: thamiz on 29th August 2008 07:41 AM [Full View]
Kuselan (U)
2 Hours 45 Minutes, Tamil
Fri 29 August 2008
ISWARIA ODEON 1 AND 2 KL, KUALA LUMPUR
03-26944995
12:00PM 12:30PM 3:00PM 3:30PM 6:00PM 6:30PM 9:30PM 12:00AM
ISWARIA PERDANA CINEPLEX PERLING MALL JB, JOHOR BAHRU
07-2414988
12:00PM 3:00PM 6:00PM 9:00PM 12:00AM
ISWARIA NEW LIDO KLUANG, KLUANG
07-7716920
12:00PM 3:00PM 6:00PM 9:00PM 12:00AM
ISWARIA PERDANA KM PLAZA SEREMBAN, SEREMBAN
06-7675718
12:00PM 3:00PM 6:00PM 9:00PM 12:00AM
ISWARIA PERDANA FAJAR MELAKA, MALACCA
06-2811651
12:00PM 12:30PM 3:00PM 3:30PM 6:00PM 6:30PM 9:00PM 9:30PM 12:00AM
ISWARIA FEDERAL 1 AND 2 KL, KUALA LUMPUR
03-40427932
12:00PM 3:00PM 6:00PM 12:00AM
LOTUS FIVE STAR SSC ODEON BUTTERWORTH, BUTTERWORTH
04-3102053
12:00PM 3:00PM 6:00PM 9:00PM 12:00AM
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That is the update in malaysia
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 08:31 AM [Full View]
Yes. Only until Sep 5th. Still running in Thanjavur, KumbakONam, maayavaram, karur (2 screens). 50 days in about 25 centers I presume. Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 11:13 AM [Full View]
http://selvaspeaking.blogspot.com/20...post_7923.html
படம் நன்றாக இல்லையென்றால் எனக்கு தியேட்டர்காரர்கள் டிக்கெட் பணத்தை திருப்பித் தருவார்களா?
PS... somewhat related to this thread
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 11:37 AM [Full View]
http://selvaspeaking.blogspot.com/20...post_5040.html
படம் முழுக்கவே எமோஷன் ரியாக்ஷன் ஷாட்ஸ் எல்லாம் தப்புத்தப்பாக இருக்கிறது. மக்கள் வெள்ளத்தைக் காட்டும்போது, பிண்ணனியில் மக்கள் கூச்சல், ஆனால் காட்சியில் மரம் போல மக்கள் அசையாமல் நிற்கிறார்கள்.
கிளைமாக்ஸ் காட்சியில் எல்லா ரியாக்ஷன் ஷாட்டுகளிலும் அனைவரும் குற்றவாளிகளைப் போல தலையை குனிகிற ஷாட்டுகளாகவே இருக்கிறது.
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From: omega on 29th August 2008 02:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
ubayam - iyakkunar kevalam Pee. Vaachu
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 03:12 PM [Full View]
After seeing CM, I thought it had little things to become such a big hit. Now after flop of kuselan, I am seriously confused on this.
Anyone at Rajini's position would have gone for a director like Vasu after seeing the success of CM.
Now, I feel the huge success of CM was a boon from the late Sivaji ganesan to his children
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 03:30 PM [Full View]
1... CM had lot of positive things Originally Posted by selvakumar
a.. VadivEl's comedy without croosing the limit ( here the limit is difference between Bagyaraj and SJ Surya )
b... Songs were enjoyable
c... Surprise packages like Vettayan and Chandremukhi
d.. The film didnt bore us ( general aaudience ) at any point
e.. one of the biggest plus is Rajini looked smarter than BABA Rajin and I personally feel this one helped a lot
But KuSelan's minuses are
a.... VadivEl's comedy
b.. Songs
c... The film was boring in the 1st half
d... even though Rajini looked younger comparing to CM, we saw this smarter Rajini in Sivaji itself
and in most of the scenes , wr Rajini nadakkumbOdhu BGM nallaa irundhadhaanaa adhuvum illa
and many more
positives are only Rajini and MedaipEchchu
2... I would have disagreed if Baba hadn't failed Rajini edhaavudhu kurai solliyirundha Baba maadhiri aayidum, adhanaala silent'aa iru , Direction'a naan paaththukkurEn P Vasu solliyirukkalaam 
3... then Wt abt Success
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 03:33 PM [Full View]
and Success is Jr Sivaji's 1st film
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 03:35 PM [Full View]
and Wt abt the reason for the victory of Sivaji-the boss, adhuvum Sivaji'ndra pEr dhaan kaaranamaa
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From: HonestRaj on 29th August 2008 03:42 PM [Full View]
what an analysis sorna
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 03:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
what an analysis sorna serious'aa pEsumbOdhu comedy pannaadheenga
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From: HonestRaj on 29th August 2008 03:54 PM [Full View]
engalukkum appadithanu irukkum Originally Posted by sarna_blr
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
what an analysis sorna serious'aa pEsumbOdhu comedy pannaadheenga
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 04:06 PM [Full View]
Guys,
Just for fun
One comment in Vikatan's review for JK rithesh 'Nayagan'
ரஜினி சார்! உங்க நிலமை இப்படி ஆயிடுச்சே! குசேலனுக்கும் 39 வீரத்தளபதியின் நாயகனுக்கும் 39!
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From: HonestRaj on 29th August 2008 04:10 PM [Full View]
last week happened to listen JK's interview in Suryan FM...
His 2 of the next films were:
1) Thalapathy
2) Thillu Mullu (name is yet to be confirmed)
I am eagerly waiting for him to c as sakalakala vallavan, captain prabhakaran, chinna gounder ..... sabha mudiyalada sami
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From: sarna_blr on 29th August 2008 04:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
Veerapaandiya kattabomman, USV, Parasakthi , enga veettu pillai
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From: Raghu on 29th August 2008 04:22 PM [Full View]
Aanast Raj Originally Posted by HonestRaj
what an analysis sorna
athu Sorna illapaa , avroda peru 'Sarna'
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From: HonestRaj on 29th August 2008 04:38 PM [Full View]
soringa aapeeser...
good eeeveninnnng aapeesar
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From: omega on 29th August 2008 04:39 PM [Full View]
Jolna pai CHAANI yet again spits venom on Rajini with his facts about KUSELAN trade (ennamo ivare kuda irunthu tharahu vela paartha maathiri ezhuluthirukkaapla)..............
Shaabha, innum Rajiniya vachi evvalavau mileage thaanda gain panratha utheesam.................Vaazhha CHAANI'n Oravanjanai Pakkangal...
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 06:42 PM [Full View]
Not been reading kumudam for the past one year or so. Not been reading vikatan frequently. About 8 of us are using one vikatan subscription not been reading tamizh dailies for the past one month or so. etha thoRanthaalum
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From: cm123 on 29th August 2008 07:41 PM [Full View]
barbers protest against Kuselan
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...1/aug-08-04/p-
vasu-29-08-08.html
Iththan ippo odikondirukkum sun news thalaippu seithikalil onru..
oru mudivoduthan irukkanga ... ennathan nadakuthunnu pakkalam..
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 07:50 PM [Full View]
ennathu Originally Posted by cm123
Thalaivar's next step is going to be very critical.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 29th August 2008 07:57 PM [Full View]
prabalamaana & letterpad arasiyal vaathi, Originally Posted by cm123
sila loosu media kaaranga like gnaani, chaaru - actually they become popular and get known to ppl ONLY becos of this, but media will tell prabala pathirikkaiyaalar
some pothumakkal,
workers group like docters barbers ect,
jaathi sangangal
ippadi avananum cinema vai ethirkaa aarabithu vittaargal. are ppl becoming too intolerant on cinema? except politicians, mathavangellaam intha ethirppil oru 10% guda govt and govt officials mela kaattaniale pothum naadu uruppadum.
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 08:06 PM [Full View]
Media-la varra intha maathiri news-kku thaan mukkiyathuvam koduthu makkaL vivaathikkuRathaala thaan media-vum athaiye pannuRanga .
Media-la varra nalla positive news-kku naama 10% mukkiyathuvam kodythaale media uruppattudum.
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From: crajkumar_be on 29th August 2008 09:20 PM [Full View]
<Dig> Originally Posted by Avadi to America
Kamal had compensated for Hey Ram.
</Dig>
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From: crajkumar_be on 29th August 2008 09:28 PM [Full View]
Agree! Originally Posted by comments
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From: thamiz on 29th August 2008 09:50 PM [Full View]
The exhibitors should have bought the movie after seeing the movie! Originally Posted by comments
Now, they can only humbly request but they are demanding agressively!
They are coming up with media and making the scenario worse and they hardly can come up with a legal claim!
I think this time Rajni or distributors should let them down!
Let them come up with a legal claim if they can!
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 09:57 PM [Full View]
There have been only 5 hit movies this year so far. At least 60 would have released. KusElan might be the biggest in terms of the *amount* but certainly kusElan <<<< 60 movies' loss
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From: thamiz on 29th August 2008 10:37 PM [Full View]
I mean this trend should not continue. Originally Posted by Nerd
There have been only 5 hit movies this year so far. At least 60 would have released. KusElan might be the biggest in terms of the *amount* but certainly kusElan <<<< 60 movies' loss
Let the theatre owners take a hit just like the producers and distributors!
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From: comments on 29th August 2008 11:43 PM [Full View]
The producers have not taken a hit but actually made a killing. That's what's riling the rest of the folks down the chain! Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 11:51 PM [Full View]
Here is an eggjaample. I sell pens. I sell them in bulk, by telling my retailers that my pens are THE best. Those retailers, without even testing them, buys them for astronomical amounts. Who is at fault?? May be I am at, but who would put down their own product?? Originally Posted by comments
The producers have not taken a hit but actually made a killing. That's what's riling the rest of the folks down the chain! Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: Nerd on 29th August 2008 11:55 PM [Full View]
And for God's sakes it was sold by auction basis. PSTL bid the highest amount.......
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From: thamiz on 30th August 2008 12:35 AM [Full View]
I think you are completely wrong! Originally Posted by comments
NOT at this time! That is all!
Are you saying producers NEVER took a hit?!
How did GV die?
Figure it out, then comment!!!
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From: thamiz on 30th August 2008 12:39 AM [Full View]
இங்கே காமெண்ட், மனிதாபிமானம் பற்றி பேசுறாங்க!!! Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: comments on 30th August 2008 01:05 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Usually when what you say happens, there will be an agitation outside by the affected people demanding money back. And the sellers who did that will be called con atrists.
If you read my earlier comment, I didn't say that the exhibitors had legal grounds. I am just commenting on where their angst is coming from. They are seeing that a couple of people (producers) have made a huge profit while they all have lost money.
PSTL, I assume is a big corporation. They realize that their gamble failed and that it's all part of business. However for some of the others it may be such a big amount that they forget all legalities and start appealing/pleading.
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From: comments on 30th August 2008 01:15 AM [Full View]
Amusing!! This topic is about Kuselan. It should be quite clear to everyone that when someone says producers it is Kuselan producers, when someone says exhibitors it is Kuselan exhibitors. Originally Posted by thamiz
I think you are completely wrong! Originally Posted by comments
NOT at this time! That is all!
Are the exhibitors asking refund for all the movies that they have screened so far that we are talking of *all* producers in general?
Did I? Originally Posted by thamiz
Now I understand why NOV has that signature!
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From: thamiz on 30th August 2008 01:21 AM [Full View]
Yes, you did! Originally Posted by comments
Did I?
Now I understand why NOV has that signature!
Follow the signature right now!
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From: comments on 30th August 2008 05:52 AM [Full View]
Thamiz, Originally Posted by thamiz
Yes, you did! Originally Posted by comments
Did I?
Now I understand why NOV has that signature!
Follow the signature right now!
In introspect, my last comment was rude and unnecessary. Sorry about that (don't know how to delete it).
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From: thamiz on 30th August 2008 08:48 PM [Full View]
comments!
I did not get offended.
It just happens now and then!
Take it easy!
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From: hamid on 1st September 2008 08:45 PM [Full View]
Will Rajini fans allow him to be the talented Rajini he is?
.....
Tamil audience now admit that Iruvar is a great film, and that Hey Ram is finely executed, while Anbe Sivam has become a favorite movie to watch again and again on cable recasts and DVD. I’m betting that a year from now, the same movie-goers who are dismissing Kuselan or are staying away from it,will be praising it and enjoy seeing it again and again on DVD. .......
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/.../index-s4.html
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 1st September 2008 08:52 PM [Full View]
like rajini says in manithan..
tholvi perum ellaa padangalum tharamanavai alla
vetri perum ellaa padangalum, mattamaanavai alla
just a failure or success is not a scale for the movie's quality
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From: hamid on 1st September 2008 09:04 PM [Full View]
i think u r quoting Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
tholvi perum ellaa padangalum mattamaanavai alla
vetri perum ellaa padangalum, tharamanavai alla
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From: crajkumar_be on 1st September 2008 09:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by hamid
Will Rajini fans allow him to be the talented Rajini he is?
.....
Tamil audience now admit that Iruvar is a great film, and that Hey Ram is finely executed, while Anbe Sivam has become a favorite movie to watch again and again on cable recasts and DVD. I’m betting that a year from now, the same movie-goers who are dismissing Kuselan or are staying away from it,will be praising it and enjoy seeing it again and again on DVD. .......
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/.../index-s4.html
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 1st September 2008 09:12 PM [Full View]
NO, iam quoting, the reverse! infact what u said also applies. it all depends on sichuesan
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From: thamiz on 2nd September 2008 07:05 AM [Full View]
I would say, it is a decent article from Pradheep! Originally Posted by hamid
Will Rajini fans allow him to be the talented Rajini he is?
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Tamil audience now admit that Iruvar is a great film, and that Hey Ram is finely executed, while Anbe Sivam has become a favorite movie to watch again and again on cable recasts and DVD. I’m betting that a year from now, the same movie-goers who are dismissing Kuselan or are staying away from it,will be praising it and enjoy seeing it again and again on DVD. .......
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/.../index-s4.html
As far as I can see Rajni's acting in kuselan deserves a big applause!
These days nobody cares about anything but BO success, unfortunately!
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 2nd September 2008 08:11 AM [Full View]
is that same which happens for movies like paruthi veeran mozhi ect?? i think everyone cares who does what. ppl dont speak "cha, avanukku ithu thaan 1st padam, ippove evlo collections allitaanya" rather they speak only about performances. and really good performances\stories have such an impact that ppl just start mimicing the caracter or story! for fun. its indirect appriciation. forex, ppl maynot praise vadivelu but will sraightly jump into, like vanthutaanyaa vanthutaanya. and now that means he is popular! simple Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: thamiz on 2nd September 2008 10:44 PM [Full View]
Nerd!
Hopefully "Gustav" did not mess with you or your neighborhood and you are safe and sound!
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From: Nerd on 2nd September 2008 10:49 PM [Full View]
Thanks thamiz. I did not have to evacuate like last time. Just some rains... Originally Posted by thamiz
Nerd!
Hopefully "Gustav" did not mess with you or your neighborhood and you are safe and sound!
Behindwoods still has kusElan in the top 5, sify has thrown the movie out..
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From: RC on 3rd September 2008 01:32 AM [Full View]
Thamiz: After asking for all those Collection reports for various movies esp Sivaji, Dasavathaaram etc... nInga ippadi sonnadhu enakku romba aachchariyamaa irukku Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: thamiz on 3rd September 2008 07:17 AM [Full View]
Glad to know that, nerd! Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: thamiz on 3rd September 2008 07:18 AM [Full View]
I dont rate myself highly, RC! Originally Posted by RC
Thamiz: After asking for all those Collection reports for various movies esp Sivaji, Dasavathaaram etc... nInga ippadi sonnadhu enakku romba aachchariyamaa irukku Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: Nerd on 3rd September 2008 09:12 AM [Full View]
Joint press release from Rama.Narayanan and Annamalai
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/41232.html
And here it ends, the false propaganda.
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From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on 3rd September 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
now also "new stories" will come on how all this happenned.. media
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From: thamiz on 12th September 2008 08:12 AM [Full View]
kuselan has been completely removed from malaysian theatres as well
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From: jaiganes on 12th September 2008 08:35 AM [Full View]
RC that link was simply awesome!!!!! Originally Posted by RC
Thamiz: After asking for all those Collection reports for various movies esp Sivaji, Dasavathaaram etc... nInga ippadi sonnadhu enakku romba aachchariyamaa irukku Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: Raghu on 12th September 2008 03:11 PM [Full View]
Hamid, Originally Posted by hamid
Will Rajini fans allow him to be the talented Rajini he is?
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Tamil audience now admit that Iruvar is a great film, and that Hey Ram is finely executed, while Anbe Sivam has become a favorite movie to watch again and again on cable recasts and DVD. I’m betting that a year from now, the same movie-goers who are dismissing Kuselan or are staying away from it,will be praising it and enjoy seeing it again and again on DVD. .......
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/.../index-s4.html
Very good article
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From: joe on 15th September 2008 08:25 AM [Full View]
Kuselan
- Rajini's good performance couldn't save the movie
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* Rajini Kanth's performance in Last 15 mins ..Touching
* Livingston - better among all comedy craps from others
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* Drama kind of feeling (except for last 15 mins)
* Songs and BGM (Is there anything ?)
* Santhaanam ..as usual with his same kind of expression and vomitting dialogues with 'ஞே ஞே ' sound ..Irritating to the core.
* Except few scenes ,Vadivelu comedy is unimpressive
* Even Pasupathi is disappointing ..Couldn't see much involvement ..His character need not be a Jesus Christ or Buddha to deserve to be a good friend of a super Star ..It can be little cheerful ,casual and normal. Potrayal of this character is too dramatic.
* Ashok Kumar's answers to SundaraRajan are not convincing (atleast to me) and backfired.
* The potrayal of Nuns ..They behave arrogant ..their double game ,ignoring Pasupathi then pleasing him and threaten him in Parents meeting just to make Super Star to visit the function ..Are they running Convent school or Rasigar Mantram ?
Final say : It is very clear that P.Vasu has taken audience for granted ,just for he has Super Star in movie .
Only worth Dialogue is ..Super Star says "படம் நல்லா இல்லைன்னா இந்த அசோக் குமார் நடிச்சிருந்தா கூட மக்கள் பார்க்க மாட்டாங்க".
Verdict : Rajini's 15 mins performance can't save rest of the movie.
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From: Nerd on 15th September 2008 08:50 AM [Full View]
Joe, good one!
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From: Nerd on 20th September 2008 10:28 PM [Full View]
50th day today
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From: thamiz on 21st September 2008 12:16 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
50th day today
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From: thamiz on 21st September 2008 12:39 AM [Full View]
Nerd:Removed from Shanthi as well?!
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From: Nerd on 21st September 2008 10:05 AM [Full View]
Yes, not too sure. This movie has once again proved that Rajini's guest roles will not work at the BO. Well if they dint sell it at astronomical prices the movie would have been a hit-superhit by now
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From: Thirumaran on 22nd September 2008 10:25 AM [Full View]
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From: SoftSword on 22nd September 2008 12:21 PM [Full View]
oh 50 days...
appo innakki celebrate pannida vaendiyadhu dhaan....
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From: thamiz on 22nd September 2008 08:05 PM [Full View]
Honestly we are not proud of it. So was I for CM's 700 plus day run as ONE SHOW! Originally Posted by Thirumaran
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From: thamiz on 22nd September 2008 08:06 PM [Full View]
It is a good lesson to so many! Originally Posted by Nerd
This movie has once again proved that Rajini's guest roles will not work at the BO. Well if they dint sell it at astronomical prices the movie would have been a hit-superhit by now
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From: Nerd on 22nd September 2008 08:06 PM [Full View]
I dont think its running still. There weren't any posters for the 50th day and no paper ads as well
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From: thamiz on 22nd September 2008 08:10 PM [Full View]
Even if it runs in one theatre or two, they are not going to "celebrate" with big posters and all as the theatre owners want to prove that the movie is flop to maintain the consitency in their claim Originally Posted by Nerd
I dont think its running still. There weren't any posters for the 50th day and no paper ads as well
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From: Tia on 14th October 2008 12:35 AM [Full View]
i only got the chance to watch this movie a couple of days ago
and i loveeee it
it actually made me cry sooo much
and im in LOVE with GV prakash kumar now...his songs were amazing
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From: thamiz on 14th October 2008 12:57 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Tia
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From: m_23_bayarea on 14th October 2008 01:23 AM [Full View]
Your taste is un-understandable, but very exciting! :P Originally Posted by Tia
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From: SoftSword on 14th October 2008 11:23 AM [Full View]
She might think the same way abt ur taste bay Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Your taste is un-understandable, but very exciting! :P Originally Posted by Tia
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From: Anban on 14th October 2008 12:55 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Your taste is un-understandable, but very exciting! :P Originally Posted by Tia
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From: Tia on 15th October 2008 12:13 AM [Full View]
lol...well obviously its not rajinis typicalll movie...but omg it was such a cute movie...it was very sad speshly cos i have read rajinis biography which i bought in India back in march...and that friend had helped it him out soo much...
well i luv it lol
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Your taste is un-understandable, but very exciting! :P Originally Posted by Tia
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From: comments on 15th October 2008 02:06 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Your taste is un-understandable, but very exciting! :P Originally Posted by Tia
Except the last few scenes everything was so poorly done. Everything was so artificial. Don't know what Rajini sees in Vasu to go to him.
Has anyone seen the malayalam original? The remake is so bad it makes me wonder if the original was any good to begin with.
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From: suba on 16th October 2008 05:14 AM [Full View]
i didnt see the original malayalam for kuselan. but i can observe what could have been the difference between the original and re-version.
the same what happened with manichithirathaaz and chandramukhi.
manichithirathaaz oru kavithai maathiri irunthathu. chandramukhiyil bayamuruththal mattume irunthathu.
that is because - rajini padamna birammaandama irukkanumnu ethir paarkarathuthaan...
maelum, vasuvukku melodye theriyaathu. oppaari vaikka mattumthaan theriyum.
thamizh - vanakkam. nalla irukkeengala!!!!!!!!!!
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From: hamid on 20th November 2008 04:11 PM [Full View]
Kuselan smart enough in overseas Box Office!
(Thursday, 20th November 2008)
Here is the exact box office report of Rajinikanth’s Kuselan in UK.
Kuselan has collected 1, 06,394 Pounds (Rs.88.14 lakhs) from 17 screens in Great Britain’s UK box office alone. Remember the film has opened in UK BO at 13th position. Kuselan is the second big film that collected nearly a crore in the UK box office. Kamal’s Dasavatharam has collected Rs.1.07 cr in 19 theaters is in the top.
Though Kuselan was declared as a flop by the trade pundits here, the overseas collection of the film is smart and the film’s owner Saimira is very happy about the performance. In US and South East Asian Countries like Malaysia and Singapore the film has collected in crores and the producers are prepared to release the data soon.
In Kuselan Rajini just appeared for 30 plus minutes and some of his ardent fans got disappointed due to his short role. At the time of the film’s release, some unwanted political situation forced the film to exit from the halls at the earliest. Some exhibitors claimed heavy loss and demanded compensation while the film was running in most of the theaters.
It can be recalled that the compensation drama has ended last week only and Pyramid Saimira declared that everything has settled smoothly.
-Sanganathan
Source :Rajinifans
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From: SoftSword on 17th August 2009 01:08 PM [Full View]
Watched the movie with family in Kalaignar TV on sat...
enjoyed it really good...
except for the vadivelu voyeur with nayan... they should hav trimmed this scene...
other than that it was good...
idiots they showed the movie for almost 5 hrs....
15 min movie... followed by 7-8 min ads.... inbetween kalaignar NEWS...
good that they showed the last 20 min without any ad break...
and those scenes were
indha madhiri scenes ellaam inimae edukkadheenga ba.... thalaivar azharadhaa paatthaalae automatica kannula thanni vandhududhu...
my mom cried too
the scene when thalaivar gets out of the car and walks the carpet while entering the school.... awesome... style
and the scene when thalaivar slaps pasupathi... very natural...
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From: hamid on 17th August 2009 02:02 PM [Full View]
SS,
I also saw the movie.. and the first 20 mins was irrittaing.. I was wondering whether I might be regretting seeting this movie again.. But after Rajini entry the film took pace and I enjoyed it till the end. Except most of the Vadivel scenes, Double meanign dialaks and Nayan song, the movie is nice..
Wish this movie was directed by some good director
Climax Rajini, the actor