Subramaniapuram by Sasi Kumar
Thread started by MrJudge on 1st July 2008 06:03 PM
This movie is said to be released on July 4th. Though the movie has low profile actors, the stills look fresh and interesting. Hope this movie turns out a decent effort if not great.
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From: P_R on 1st July 2008 08:30 PM [Full View]
I find the retro look pretty interesting.
Hope the movie has more to offer than that.
KaNgaL irandAl has been the song on my lips for the past few weeks.
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From: Thirumaran on 2nd July 2008 11:54 AM [Full View]
Sasi kumar was assistant of Bala right
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From: Roshan on 2nd July 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
I thought the movie title was 'Subramaniapuram Sasikumar'
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sasi kumar was assistant of Bala right
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From: Thirumaran on 2nd July 2008 12:06 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
I thought the movie title was 'Subramaniapuram Sasikumar' Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sasi kumar was assistant of Bala right
Wait, Am i thinking wrongly 
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From: raaja_rasigan on 2nd July 2008 12:23 PM [Full View]
Yes!!!! I think, he is an assistant of Ameer too!! Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sasi kumar was assistant of Bala right
The stills of the film looks like the period of the film is in early 80's!!!
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From: MrJudge on 2nd July 2008 12:31 PM [Full View]
Oh, is it? then my expectation is getting better Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sasi kumar was assistant of Bala right
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From: rangan_08 on 2nd July 2008 12:49 PM [Full View]
Yes. The stills look great & promising, thereby raising a lot of expectations. The hero is the one who acted in Chennai 28.
I read that the director took great pains to re-create the 80's....big collared shirts, bell bottom pants, step cutting hair style etc..
If it comes out well, I guess, most of today's middle aged people will have a trip down memory lane.
Best of luck for the crew.
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From: Achilles on 2nd July 2008 02:27 PM [Full View]
I didnt have a look into the stills... But heard the songs.... Especially Kangal Irandaal song... It will become a hit for sure...
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From: Achilles on 2nd July 2008 02:35 PM [Full View]
This is the homepage for the movie...
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/
Saw the stills... The guy Jai (Rockers Raghu in Chennai 28) is the hero of the movie..... Looks good....
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/images/Index_01.jpg
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From: MrJudge on 2nd July 2008 02:50 PM [Full View]
The guy on the right hand side reminds TRajendar Originally Posted by Achilles
This is the homepage for the movie...
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/
Saw the stills... The guy Jai (Rockers Raghu in Chennai 28) is the hero of the movie..... Looks good....
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/images/Index_01.jpg
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From: joe on 2nd July 2008 02:55 PM [Full View]
Looking at the stills ,is it a remake of Paalaivana cholai? Originally Posted by MrJudge
The guy on the right hand side reminds TRajendar Originally Posted by Achilles
This is the homepage for the movie...
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/
Saw the stills... The guy Jai (Rockers Raghu in Chennai 28) is the hero of the movie..... Looks good....
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/images/Index_01.jpg
Same faces ,hair style etc
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From: joe on 2nd July 2008 02:56 PM [Full View]
Music - James vasanthan
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From: Achilles on 2nd July 2008 03:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Looking at the stills ,is it a remake of Paalaivana cholai? Originally Posted by MrJudge
The guy on the right hand side reminds TRajendar Originally Posted by Achilles
This is the homepage for the movie...
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/
Saw the stills... The guy Jai (Rockers Raghu in Chennai 28) is the hero of the movie..... Looks good....
http://www.subramaniyapuram.com/images/Index_01.jpg Same faces ,hair style etc
I guess there is no dandanakka danakkunakka kind of music in the songs....
Go thru the stills section in the webpage and have a look at Ganja Karuppu's makeup...
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From: Achilles on 2nd July 2008 03:03 PM [Full View]
There is a guy called James Vasanthan who will anchor that Jodi Porutham programme in Sun TV right??? Originally Posted by joe
Music - James vasanthan 
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From: joe on 2nd July 2008 03:07 PM [Full View]
Yes,the same ..He comes in Vijay TV "Thamizh pechhu..engaL Moochu" ..Looks like he released a album. Originally Posted by Achilles
There is a guy called James Vasanthan who will anchor that Jodi Porutham programme in Sun TV right??? Originally Posted by joe
Music - James vasanthan
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From: MrJudge on 2nd July 2008 06:35 PM [Full View]
I don't think it is a remake of Paalaivana cholai but the story line looks dangerously close to that. Originally Posted by joe
Looking at the stills ,is it a remake of Paalaivana cholai? Same faces ,hair style etc
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From: MrJudge on 2nd July 2008 06:40 PM [Full View]
with a rose in his hand Originally Posted by Achilles
Another still reads:
pugaikka siranthathu Steel Beedi
agent: K.M.Store, Dindigul
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From: Nerd on 2nd July 2008 06:59 PM [Full View]
whoa terrific stills. I love the 80s
are the songs 80ish as well? I have just listened to kaNgaL iraNdAl and it was awesome..
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From: P_R on 2nd July 2008 07:07 PM [Full View]
The songs are not 80s but are very different from one another. Apart from KangaL irandaal - which is the pick of the album by miles, I also liked one other song 'ThEneeril' which is also okay.
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From: Achilles on 3rd July 2008 09:01 AM [Full View]
Just Kangal Irandaal is enough to make an impact in tamil music industry.... Just watch, they will start telecasting this song in Sun Music and IsaiAruvi channels....
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From: cancer on 3rd July 2008 11:23 AM [Full View]
Trailor looks like promising
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From: Thirumaran on 3rd July 2008 11:24 AM [Full View]
Today there was a song shown in some music channel. Originally Posted by Achilles
Just Kangal Irandaal is enough to make an impact in tamil music industry.... Just watch, they will start telecasting this song in Sun Music and IsaiAruvi channels....
Kanjaa karuppu and others sings.
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From: selvakumar on 3rd July 2008 01:45 PM [Full View]
Looks like another chennai - 28
(in a different time and arena).
Should check it out.
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From: Achilles on 3rd July 2008 02:10 PM [Full View]
oh... Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Today there was a song shown in some music channel. Originally Posted by Achilles
Just Kangal Irandaal is enough to make an impact in tamil music industry.... Just watch, they will start telecasting this song in Sun Music and IsaiAruvi channels....
Kanjaa karuppu and others sings.
Seems like the movie is releasing tomorrow..... They will telecast the song this weekend...
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From: Nerd on 4th July 2008 09:18 PM [Full View]
muRattukkALai FDFS celebrations is shown in this movie, looks like. For about FIVE minutes, now I can't miss this movie at any cost
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From: Nerd on 4th July 2008 09:22 PM [Full View]
And couple of my friends said a few good things about the movie. Looks like an extremely violent movie set in the 80s
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From: MADDY on 4th July 2008 11:47 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Looks like an extremely violent movie set in the 80s hope its not repulsive and jarring - and pls no female slaughtering 
......its become so monotonous now in tamil movies
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From: MrJudge on 5th July 2008 08:06 AM [Full View]
too much violence-a? I thought it would be another relax-fun kind of movie after seeing the stills. Anyway I will see it today itself.
Anyone seen it? Good?
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From: selvakumar on 5th July 2008 01:10 PM [Full View]
Read some reviews in orkut. Most of them are +ve reviews only. Originally Posted by MrJudge
too much violence-a? I thought it would be another relax-fun kind of movie after seeing the stills. Anyway I will see it today itself.
Anyone seen it? Good?
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From: MrJudge on 5th July 2008 01:13 PM [Full View]
Bala, Ameer assistanttununna kokkaa Originally Posted by selvakumar
Read some reviews in orkut. Most of them are +ve reviews only. Originally Posted by MrJudge
too much violence-a? I thought it would be another relax-fun kind of movie after seeing the stills. Anyway I will see it today itself.
Anyone seen it? Good?
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From: selvakumar on 5th July 2008 01:17 PM [Full View]
Kokka, kuruviyannu paarpoem. I didn't like PV. Let me check it out
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From: Vivasaayi on 5th July 2008 01:23 PM [Full View]
it seems like the movie is awesome!
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From: MrJudge on 5th July 2008 05:43 PM [Full View]
Seen it, a decent film for a debutant director I would say. As Nerd said, too much violence is there. The movie is a kind of Pattiyal, Puthupettai, Kadhal ellam kalantha kalavai. Some places are brilliant and in some places he has gone overboard. If you like dark themes, you may like it.
'siru ponmani asaiyum' - Kallukkul eeram song has been used as BGM, summa paatta kettale jivvunu irukku theatrela Koodayila karuvadu from oru thalai raagam and another IR song also been used little bit. BGM is good and Cinematography is excellent.
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From: Nerd on 6th July 2008 10:15 PM [Full View]
So, not as good as anjaathE How was the art direction?? The 80s thingi attracts me. But it won't release here. Have to wait for a decent print in the internet...
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From: MrJudge on 6th July 2008 10:31 PM [Full View]
Yes, definitely not as good as anjaathey. It has lots of Ameer touch to it. Myssikin never showed violence this way. Art direction is not the area they concentrated too much, romba iyalba irukku. Originally Posted by Nerd
So, not as good as anjaathE How was the art direction?? The 80s thingi attracts me. But it won't release here. Have to wait for a decent print in the internet...
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From: cancer on 7th July 2008 12:11 PM [Full View]
Subramaniyapuram - Mystery,Violent, excellent art direction,nice songs, good Bgm.
watched it and liked it
M.Sasikumar - actor,director,producer 
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From: MrJudge on 7th July 2008 12:25 PM [Full View]
What's your favorite scene? Mine is when Azagar says to Paraman that "enakku uyir bayam kaatitaingada, enakku uyir bayam kaatitaingada, avingala kollamaa udak koodathu". In Puthupettai, Kokki kumar was also under threat and fear, but Dhanush overacted it, here Jai has acted excellent and natural. Originally Posted by cancer
Subramaniyapuram - Mystery,Violent, excellent art direction,nice songs, good Bgm.
watched it and liked it
M.Sasikumar - actor,director,producer
Also the dialogue "pazhakkaththukkaga kaththi edukkarathu ellam namma ooru payanga mattum thaan"
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From: kutti_anand on 7th July 2008 01:10 PM [Full View]
Any idea where in bangalore this movie is released?
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From: Achilles on 7th July 2008 03:08 PM [Full View]
I guess its released in Hosur... You can watch the movie in Hosur... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: Thirumaran on 7th July 2008 03:48 PM [Full View]
Please discuss only Subramaniapuram
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From: jaiganes on 7th July 2008 07:04 PM [Full View]
enpa. ennoda innocent commentayum thaniya pottu lock panniteengale!!!
Sari. Subramaniyapuram innum paarka mudiyalayennu varuthamaa irukku. The few scenes I saw in the TV are very impressive. I have seen the paramu guy in some other movie. I am not able to recollect which one. James vasanthan's music seems to be pretty good. the reethi gowlai number has been done rather well, but a bit low key - not stretching it like Azhagaan araakshasiye or chinna kannan azhaikkiraan. All in all seems to be a nice small budget 'independant' movie wih realistic feel. Looking forward to catch up with it in theatres. Such movies should be seen in theatres .
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From: steveaustin on 7th July 2008 07:52 PM [Full View]
Fantastic! Simply superb! Amazing!
No words to describe it. I will see it once again.
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From: MrJudge on 7th July 2008 10:24 PM [Full View]
I am also going to watch it again this week Originally Posted by steveaustin
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From: littlemaster1982 on 7th July 2008 10:26 PM [Full View]
Judge,
You said it's just decent???? Confused
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From: MrJudge on 7th July 2008 10:44 PM [Full View]
I missed the first 15 mins of it... I liked the movie but it is not on par with Anjaathe or PV, one step below them. I watched Anjaathey and PV thrice in theaters. So I will catch this movie atleast once more in the theater Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Judge,
You said it's just decent???? Confused If you like dark themes, you should not miss this movie. This is definitely Guy movie!
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From: littlemaster1982 on 7th July 2008 10:45 PM [Full View]
Oh OK. Will watch it this week
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From: MrJudge on 8th July 2008 09:34 AM [Full View]
jayganes,
The landscape of tamil film industry has been changing for the last few years. Newcomers so far proved that they can make better movies. They are making what they know from their experiences. Any product that is close anyone's experience will surely make it through. From Balu Mahendra -> Bala -> Ameer -> Sasikumar also the polladhavan director are taking it in the right direction. Now they proved their worth, the next problem is they need to look at different subjects and sustain their success. Lets see how they are coming out in the future.
Subramaniapuram innum paakkaiya? worth watching, don't miss it.
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From: cancer on 8th July 2008 10:08 AM [Full View]
songs are really good in the movie, impressed with the music by James vasanth. Kangal irandal is so beautiful, Manasu Manasu is another one catchy song.
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From: Cinefan on 8th July 2008 10:09 AM [Full View]
I like the feel/look of the movie.Not yet released in Bangalore but it seems to be a movie which I cannot go with wife&kids.
Let's see when&how I am able to watch it.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 8th July 2008 10:09 AM [Full View]
Cancer,
Bengaluru-la release aayirukka
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From: cancer on 8th July 2008 10:11 AM [Full View]
NO, last weekend Chennai la konjam work irunthuchu :P appdiye Tambaram M.R la Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Cancer,
Bengaluru-la release aayirukka night show paathen :P
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From: cancer on 8th July 2008 10:14 AM [Full View]
the second half is definitely not for family and kids, Originally Posted by Cinefan
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From: MADDY on 8th July 2008 10:18 AM [Full View]
rape-ings of India??? Originally Posted by cancer
the second half is definitely not for family and kids, Originally Posted by Cinefan
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From: Nerd on 8th July 2008 10:21 AM [Full View]
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jul/07sss.htm
3.5 stars. Good reviews from all quarters (though I have not read them fully). Can't wait to watch
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From: cancer on 8th July 2008 10:42 AM [Full View]
no no Originally Posted by MADDY
rape-ings of India??? Originally Posted by cancer
the second half is definitely not for family and kids, Originally Posted by Cinefan
Vettu kuthu sandai kolai 
one more thing the way they killing people is diff. he he.. still i believe director missed the grip in the second half. somewhere something miss to get attention. if u like mystery type movies go and watch, and for the wonderful art direction . the director is worked hard for his debut movie
like to watch it one more time
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From: joe on 8th July 2008 10:45 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by cancer
Vettu kuthu sandai kolai
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From: MrJudge on 8th July 2008 11:23 AM [Full View]
Yes, this movie is not for family or kids. This is out and out Guy movie. This type of movies was rare earlier and it is good to see that this genre is improving in tamil film industry. I hate those one-size-fits-for-all movies that were churned out always earlier. Originally Posted by Cinefan
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From: MrJudge on 8th July 2008 11:25 AM [Full View]
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From: MrJudge on 8th July 2008 11:26 AM [Full View]
Don't read reviews that revealing the plot, go and watch the movie, you will enjoy. Originally Posted by Nerd
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jul/07sss.htm
3.5 stars. Good reviews from all quarters (though I have not read them fully). Can't wait to watch
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 8th July 2008 04:38 PM [Full View]
I love these kind of movies Originally Posted by cancer
Subramaniyapuram - Mystery,Violent, excellent art direction,nice songs, good Bgm.
watched it and liked it
M.Sasikumar - actor,director,producer 
will try to watch this weekend.
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From: MrJudge on 8th July 2008 06:32 PM [Full View]
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From: Cinefan on 9th July 2008 04:03 PM [Full View]
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullsto...3&cid=13525926
Sify at it again.Positives of Subramaniyapuram supposed to be special effects&appeal to kids
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From: MrJudge on 9th July 2008 05:21 PM [Full View]
I think they messed up with some other movie and definitely they are not meant for Subramaniapuram, may be for Pachaimanithan? Originally Posted by Cinefan
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14711353&cid=13525926
Sify at it again.Positives of Subramaniyapuram supposed to be special effects&appeal to kids
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From: littlemaster1982 on 9th July 2008 11:57 PM [Full View]
Yeah, they have mentioned the same set of positive/negatives to Pachai Manithan. Originally Posted by MrJudge
I think they messed up with some other movie and definitely they are not meant for Subramaniapuram, may be for Pachaimanithan? Originally Posted by Cinefan
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14711353&cid=13525926
Sify at it again.Positives of Subramaniyapuram supposed to be special effects&appeal to kids
Btw, innaikku padam paarkka ponen. Ticket kidaikkala
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 10:15 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Btw, innaikku padam paarkka ponen. Ticket kidaikkala Try again.
It is good to know that it is doing good.
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 10:16 AM [Full View]
Ananta Vikatan has given 44 points to Subramaniapuram.
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From: Achilles on 10th July 2008 10:25 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: joe on 10th July 2008 10:33 AM [Full View]
Looks like this movie is a commercial hit too
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From: dinesh13284 on 10th July 2008 11:34 AM [Full View]
I went to a dvd rental shop and asked for this film.. and the reply was.. "Padam supera iruku sir.. theaterla poi paarunga.. ilam herokala valara vidunga..."... oh.. wat a slap in my face..
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 11:43 AM [Full View]
S S Kathir's cinematography is excellent, yes, you should watch it on big screen. Originally Posted by dinesh13284
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 11:44 AM [Full View]
I like the promo song, they should have included in the movie.
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From: P_R on 10th July 2008 11:52 AM [Full View]
Kathir was the cinematographer of Katradhu thamizh, isn't it ? Originally Posted by MrJudge
S S Kathir's cinematography is excellent, yes, you should watch it on big screen. Originally Posted by dinesh13284
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From: littlemaster1982 on 10th July 2008 12:01 PM [Full View]
Yeah, the same guy Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Kathir was the cinematographer of Katradhu thamizh, isn't it ? Originally Posted by MrJudge
S S Kathir's cinematography is excellent, yes, you should watch it on big screen. Originally Posted by dinesh13284
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
He was an assistant of Ramji, you could very well see the similarities in their works. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Yeah, the same guy Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Kathir was the cinematographer of Katradhu thamizh, isn't it ? Originally Posted by MrJudge
S S Kathir's cinematography is excellent, yes, you should watch it on big screen. Originally Posted by dinesh13284
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From: joe on 10th July 2008 12:08 PM [Full View]
//dig
LM and others,
Katrathu thamizh and Enavo oruvan VCDs available in India ?
So far it is not released in singapore while VCDs of all other mokkai films available
//dig
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From: littlemaster1982 on 10th July 2008 12:28 PM [Full View]
Joe,
I haven't seen these CDs/DVDs. Official DVD release might take some time. Pirated DVDs may be available. Will let you know if I happen to get them.
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From: selvakumar on 10th July 2008 12:36 PM [Full View]
I saw the video of 'Kangal Irandal' song in IsaiAruvi. I found the song OK. The beats in the background didn't provide 80's feel at all The way they portray the social gathering, locations etc in the song was above average. I felt as if I am watching a normal movie in those settings.
Jai's mannerisms closely resemble vijay in many frames. The way he walks and laughs at the heroine.
I think someone like IlayaRaja would have given great feel to this kind of situation. The beats in the background spoil the mood. He would have certainly made a difference. Let me see the full movie.
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From: joe on 10th July 2008 12:44 PM [Full View]
Thanks Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: Vivasaayi on 10th July 2008 12:52 PM [Full View]
it was like "refined"vijay Originally Posted by selvakumar
Jai's mannerisms closely resemble vijay in many frames. The way he walks and laughs at the heroine.
the way vijay should act
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From: MrJudge on 10th July 2008 01:08 PM [Full View]
Yeah, the beats reminded me of sutri vizhi sudarE from Ghajini. Though it doesn't sound like a 80s song, the song sounds decent to me. I like the promo song, it is good. Originally Posted by selvakumar
His voice sounds like Simbu's. Originally Posted by selvakumar
My guess is you won't like it, let me know after you watched it Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: selvakumar on 10th July 2008 01:12 PM [Full View]
My guess is you won't like it, let me know after you watched it Will update on that.
His voice sounds like Simbu's.
Vivasaayi - No comments !
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From: jaiganes on 10th July 2008 01:41 PM [Full View]
Saw the song and the scene where Azhagar leans on the wall smoking and laughing - So much reminded me of Sethu - Vikram in Maalayil song. These directors - Bala, Ameer and gang have managed to capture the essence of Indian Semi rural suburban man's psyche pretty well.
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From: leosimha on 10th July 2008 04:53 PM [Full View]
Kangal Irandal song is very melodious. This song has got very good beats. Is this song Deepa Mariam's debut? She has sung so beautifully. Even the song sung by Shankar Mahadevan is great.
Shankar Mahadevan's voice is superb after Enna Solla Pogiraal.
James Vasanth's Debut Music? Great!!!
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From: P_R on 10th July 2008 05:47 PM [Full View]
Yeah it was kinda disappointing for me too. After a point I found it pretty repetitive. The guys were quite typical and girl was not bad (கள்ளச்சிரிப்பில்) but just didn't seem to cook up enough interesting situations. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Perhaps because I have listened to this song so much in the last few weeks that I was expecting the picturization to be excellent.
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From: jaiganes on 11th July 2008 03:14 PM [Full View]
Boss why have expectations - While watching we should have ZERO expectations. That is what the current hub dictat for people watching movies.
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From: rajasaranam on 13th July 2008 11:39 AM [Full View]
Saw The movie yesterday. Today Am going to Watch Again
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From: MrJudge on 13th July 2008 12:06 PM [Full View]
Yeah! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Saw The movie yesterday. Today Am going to Watch Again
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From: MrJudge on 13th July 2008 12:07 PM [Full View]
rajasaranam,
There are many good scenes but what is your one favorite scene?
Also how did you feel when kallukkul eeram song comes up?
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From: selvakumar on 13th July 2008 12:39 PM [Full View]
I must see the film now. Jai - Thala fans nenjai thottutaan pola. (In Sun Music).
Bangalore la engayaachu oduthaa
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From: littlemaster1982 on 13th July 2008 12:42 PM [Full View]
Bangalore-la odara maadhiri theriyala. Chennai-la irukkumbodhu ticket kidaikkala
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From: MrJudge on 13th July 2008 01:12 PM [Full View]
Naalaikke Vijay vanthu Ajith enakku romba pidikkum sonnaa, udanaye Vijay padam pooram paarpeenga pola. Originally Posted by selvakumar
I must see the film now. Jai - Thala fans nenjai thottutaan pola. (In Sun Music).
Bangalore la engayaachu oduthaa
Just kidding
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From: selvakumar on 13th July 2008 01:25 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
Not like that. Vijay vanthu "Ajith thaan ennoda GodFather" nnu sonna nichyam paarpaen.
Generally, I see vijay films. (The pattern got changed only from Thirumalai. I saw Sachin, Madhurey and Pokkiri in theatre. After Pokkiri, I didn't have interest to see kuruvi. He should come out of his semi-telugu feel he provides in the movies. If it is not there, I am fine with that.)
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 04:41 PM [Full View]
Less than 20 ppl in cinema at noon show on a Sunday
(no spoilers)
Film starts in 2008 with a crime and then the story-telling goes back to 1980. In Madurai. Characters speak in Madurai accent. First half movie goes aimlessly; director is obviously telling background of each character. And it is tough considering all (almost) are new faces. Hero is recognisable from his minor role in Chennai 60028.
The second half the story moves forward. Plenty of violence. Plenty of treachery with twists and turns. When the viewer tries to accept one shock, another and then another happens rapidly.
I found a lot of similarities with Paruthi Veeran in this movie. In the hands of another director, it could have become another ordinary dada movie.
Special mention cannot be made of any actor as all of them lived their roles.
Ganja Karuppu is better of doing these kind of roles than like in AE203K.
Subramaniapuram - definitely one of the better movies of 2008.
p/s: when was kallukul eeram and murattu kaalai released?
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 04:56 PM [Full View]
* hero looks like Vijay and has similar mannerisms
* paraman looks like Sundar of the 80s. (Uthiri Pookal)
* movie is NOT about 80s. the setting is in 1980 thats all.
* commendation on the art direction. flowery shirts, bell bottoms, afro hair styles ... excellent - these are the little details that shows PROGRESS in film making.
* siru ponmani asayum song was so so appropriate and was nice to be heard/seen on the big screen
* one criticism - 1980 and 2008 has 28 years between. it should show on the character who returns....
* movie is loud, rough and riff. ppl who like gentle stories should stay away completely.
* not for kids or faint hearted.
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From: equanimus on 13th July 2008 06:04 PM [Full View]
Both in 1980, I think. (I suppose Sasikumar has used some pieces from the songs/BGM scores of 80s Raaja, like some parts of "siRu ponmaNi" song. And, has also recreated the then opening of 'murattuk kALai'.) Originally Posted by NOV
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From: littlemaster1982 on 13th July 2008 06:19 PM [Full View]
Equa,
Have you seen the film? Where??
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From: equanimus on 13th July 2008 06:31 PM [Full View]
No, sir. It's not released in Bangalore, of course. But, I'll be seeing tomorrow, hopefully, in Selam. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 13th July 2008 06:46 PM [Full View]
Watched it today!
Double
nenjula arayura maadhri neraya scenes, unexpected twist!
Orey vaarthai-la kadhai sollanum-na "nambikaidhrogam!"
Take my second nomination for the best movie of this year after Anjadhey!
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From: littlemaster1982 on 13th July 2008 06:48 PM [Full View]
Waiting for the release Originally Posted by equanimus
No, sir. It's not released in Bangalore, of course. But, I'll be seeing tomorrow, hopefully, in Selam. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 06:48 PM [Full View]
not some parts, almost the whole song... and it sounded good. Originally Posted by equanimus
and yes, murattu kaalai opening was there.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 13th July 2008 06:53 PM [Full View]
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 07:01 PM [Full View]
sridhar.... your post reveals everything.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 13th July 2008 07:04 PM [Full View]
Hmm! Thats true. Even I felt the same.I found a lot of similarities with Paruthi Veeran in this movie. In the hands of another director, it could have become another ordinary dada movie.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 13th July 2008 07:06 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
not some parts, almost the whole song... and it sounded good. Originally Posted by equanimus
and yes, murattu kaalai opening was there.
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 07:07 PM [Full View]
hmmm sridhar, I think I should watch a movie with you.
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From: Thalafanz on 13th July 2008 07:15 PM [Full View]
Hhmmm... Naanum kElvipattEn. I wana watch it too for the obvious reason :P & of course for the praises from some hubbers here... Originally Posted by selvakumar
I must see the film now. Jai - Thala fans nenjai thottutaan pola. (In Sun Music).
Bangalore la engayaachu oduthaa
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From: NOV on 13th July 2008 07:15 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thalafanz
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From: MrJudge on 13th July 2008 09:19 PM [Full View]
Yes, this is the second good film after Anjathey. This movie reminded me of lot of movies, but still not the one to be missed. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
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From: selvakumar on 13th July 2008 09:24 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by Thalafanz
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From: rajasaranam on 13th July 2008 09:25 PM [Full View]
The longest single shot of the movie wherein Kanja Karuppu keeps walking in the climax. I loved every frame of this scene wherein he showed a multitude of emotions. The skill of the director is top notch here, Originally Posted by MrJudge
not showing the other end and making our heart weep for whatever is happening there. It was brilliant in making us realise about Human beings and their weakness in a chilling manner. 
Will write more after watchcing a few more times
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
That was an excellent scene and my favorite too! Initially his face expression was zero. I thought that he was going to convey something like Jai’s mother passed away. After that the scene turned to be an excellent one, till he sits in a mile stone by lighting up a beedi. Originally Posted by rajasaranam
The longest single shot of the movie wherein Kanja Karuppu keeps walking in the climax. I loved every frame of this scene wherein he showed a multitude of emotions. The skill of the director is top notch here, not showing the other end and making our heart weep for whatever is happening there. It was brilliant in making us realise about Human beings and their weakness in a chilling manner.
Will write more after watchcing a few more times
And the scene where Jai says “Enakku uyir bayam kaatitaan parama!, oru pombala kaalula vizha vachutaan!!”
I loved some more scenes; I will share it after some days.
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From: Nerd on 14th July 2008 10:35 AM [Full View]
SS, if you are going to post spoilers at least make the post with a warning, *spoilers* I still remember how you spoiled anjAthEy for a few here by revealing that kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 10:37 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
SS, if you are going to post spoilers at least make the post with a warning, *spoilers* I still remember how you spoiled anjAthEy for a few here by revealing that kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
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From: joe on 14th July 2008 10:43 AM [Full View]
Agreed..I didn't read Sridhar's post since I am planing to watch it once it is released here Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: Roshan on 14th July 2008 10:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Originally Posted by Nerd
SS, if you are going to post spoilers at least make the post with a warning, *spoilers* I still remember how you spoiled anjAthEy for a few here by revealing that kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
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From: ajithfederer on 14th July 2008 10:48 AM [Full View]
Maams, barr yuvar inbormesan idhu sports zeksan illa
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Originally Posted by Nerd
SS, if you are going to post spoilers at least make the post with a warning, *spoilers* I still remember how you spoiled anjAthEy for a few here by revealing that kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
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From: NOV on 14th July 2008 11:39 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
nerd, I still havent watched anjaathE 
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From: Thalafanz on 14th July 2008 11:42 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by Nerd
kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
nerd, I still havent watched anjaathE
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From: joe on 14th July 2008 11:43 AM [Full View]
Vitta neenga Puthiya Paravai climax solla koodathunnu solluveenga pola Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by Nerd
kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
nerd, I still havent watched anjaathE
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From: Thirumaran on 14th July 2008 11:44 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by Nerd
kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
nerd, I still havent watched anjaathE
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From: NOV on 14th July 2008 11:55 AM [Full View]
kandipaa solla koodaadhu.... innum ennOda generationla paakkadhavanga irukkaanga Originally Posted by joe
Vitta neenga Puthiya Paravai climax solla koodathunnu solluveenga pola
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From: selvakumar on 14th July 2008 11:56 AM [Full View]
neenga paarthuteengala :P Originally Posted by NOV
kandipaa solla koodaadhu.... innum ennOda generationla paakkadhavanga irukkaanga Originally Posted by joe
Vitta neenga Puthiya Paravai climax solla koodathunnu solluveenga pola
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From: NOV on 14th July 2008 12:00 PM [Full View]
another movie where the ending should not be revealed is adhE kangal :P
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 12:07 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Agreed..I didn't read Sridhar's post since I am planing to watch it once it is released here Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: Thirumaran on 14th July 2008 12:08 PM [Full View]
puriyaatha puthir too Originally Posted by NOV
another movie where the ending should not be revealed is adhE kangal :P KSR
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From: selvakumar on 14th July 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
anne - ingeyum athey thaan.. antha italic words ah paartha udan skip pannittaen :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Originally Posted by joe
Agreed..I didn't read Sridhar's post since I am planing to watch it once it is released here Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: Roshan on 14th July 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
Yeah AdhE kaNgaL climax is good and un expected. Originally Posted by NOV
another movie where the ending should not be revealed is adhE kangal :P
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 12:10 PM [Full View]
Yeah angga mattum thaan naane thread create panni, naan mattum post pannuven. Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Maams, barr yuvar inbormesan idhu sports zeksan illa
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Originally Posted by Nerd
SS, if you are going to post spoilers at least make the post with a warning, *spoilers* I still remember how you spoiled anjAthEy for a few here by revealing that kirubA gets killed in the hands of narain
Btw sorry guys I swear that I won’t post spoilers anymore
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From: selvakumar on 14th July 2008 12:18 PM [Full View]
ithu pathaathu.. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw sorry guys I swear that I won’t post spoilers anymore
innum better ah ethir paarkuroem , unga kitta irunthu
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 12:21 PM [Full View]
ellarum oru mudivoda thaan irrukeenga pola..me escape
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From: Thirumaran on 14th July 2008 12:23 PM [Full View]
I missed ur post. Can u post it again Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
ellarum oru mudivoda thaan irrukeenga pola..me escape
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From: joe on 14th July 2008 12:24 PM [Full View]
Yesterday watched few scenes from Sun Tv thirai vimarisanam.
They showed Murattukaalai first day galatta ..Thought subramaniyapuram is a village ..eppadi 60 adi Rajini cut out vachu MurattuKaalai release aaguthu
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th July 2008 01:28 PM [Full View]
Subramaniyapuram is an area in Madurai. It is near to Jaihindpuram [Near to Periyar bus stand] Madurai hubbers can correct me if I am wrong Originally Posted by joe
Yesterday watched few scenes from Sun Tv thirai vimarisanam.
They showed Murattukaalai first day galatta ..Thought subramaniyapuram is a village ..eppadi 60 adi Rajini cut out vachu MurattuKaalai release aaguthu
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From: Nerd on 14th July 2008 06:51 PM [Full View]
NOV, I yam saari!
How is the movie doing at the BO? Were the shows you'll watched housefull?
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From: NOV on 14th July 2008 07:31 PM [Full View]
No Nerd, about 20 + ppl saw with us.
In fact, I wanted to watch muniyandi (12.00), got caught in a jam and thus went for subramaniyapuram instead (12.30). its only playing in one cinema here.
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From: Nerd on 14th July 2008 07:56 PM [Full View]
I think its doing good in TN though its released in very few screens.. WOM is good so they will make their money..
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From: raaja_rasigan on 15th July 2008 02:46 PM [Full View]
they have increased 1 more theater in cbe.. from 2nd week ... (thinathanthi parthu therindhu kondaen) Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: Nasc on 15th July 2008 10:15 PM [Full View]
Also the theatre had the look of the demolished(-->not sure) Devi theatre in Madurai --- remember Parthiban's "House full" Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Subramaniyapuram is an area in Madurai. It is near to Jaihindpuram [Near to Periyar bus stand] Madurai hubbers can correct me if I am wrong Originally Posted by joe
Yesterday watched few scenes from Sun Tv thirai vimarisanam.
They showed Murattukaalai first day galatta ..Thought subramaniyapuram is a village ..eppadi 60 adi Rajini cut out vachu MurattuKaalai release aaguthu
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From: Querida on 16th July 2008 10:15 AM [Full View]
If the song and picturisation of Kangal Irunthal is any indication of the movie....I hope I can be excited to see it! But I hope it won't be a copy of paruthiveeran like plot....seems like the looks is in with the hairstyle....
hmmm the beginning of kangal irunthal reminds me of another song....anyone else????
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From: RajaRam on 16th July 2008 10:34 AM [Full View]
yes. subramaniyapuram is the name of one area in Madurai. murattukkaali first day galataa has taken in Madurai 'Central Cinema'. but it released in Madurai sivam theatre(80-81). Originally Posted by Nasc
Also the theatre had the look of the demolished(-->not sure) Devi theatre in Madurai --- remember Parthiban's "House full" Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Subramaniyapuram is an area in Madurai. It is near to Jaihindpuram [Near to Periyar bus stand] Madurai hubbers can correct me if I am wrong Originally Posted by joe
Yesterday watched few scenes from Sun Tv thirai vimarisanam.
They showed Murattukaalai first day galatta ..Thought subramaniyapuram is a village ..eppadi 60 adi Rajini cut out vachu MurattuKaalai release aaguthu
also TV came to madurai after 84. but heroine is watching the TV in the movie.
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From: MrJudge on 16th July 2008 11:21 AM [Full View]
I don't know about the beginning but the song has shades of chinna kannan azhaikkiraan, is it because of similar raga or something? Originally Posted by Querida
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From: littlemaster1982 on 16th July 2008 11:36 AM [Full View]
Yeah. Reethigowlai raagam. Got the info from Karthik's blog (inetk).
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From: P_R on 16th July 2008 11:44 AM [Full View]
isn' that the raagam Bagyaraj explains in Andha yezhu natkal when Ambika sings when bathing Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: littlemaster1982 on 16th July 2008 11:46 AM [Full View]
I don't remember Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
isn' that the raagam Bagyaraj explains in Andha yezhu natkal when Ambika sings when bathing Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: equanimus on 16th July 2008 11:59 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I don't remember Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
isn' that the raagam Bagyaraj explains in Andha yezhu natkal when Ambika sings when bathing Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
But, I don't think that is Reetigowlai raagam.
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From: P_R on 16th July 2008 12:13 PM [Full View]
Yeah...I think that was Panthuvarali.
I really miss that guy !
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From: joe on 16th July 2008 12:16 PM [Full View]
Yaaru Panthuvarali-a ? Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yeah...I think that was Panthuvarali.
I really miss that guy !
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 16th July 2008 12:17 PM [Full View]
Joe timing-la kalakureenga!! Originally Posted by joe
Yaaru Panthuvarali-a ? Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yeah...I think that was Panthuvarali.
I really miss that guy !
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From: raaja_rasigan on 16th July 2008 12:27 PM [Full View]
K baghyaraj ? Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yeah...I think that was Panthuvarali.
I really miss that guy !
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From: Querida on 16th July 2008 09:46 PM [Full View]
Thanx Judge...your verdict makes perfect sense! :P yes i kept remembering something, something kannan...but i couldn't put my finger on it... Originally Posted by MrJudge
I don't know about the beginning but the song has shades of chinna kannan azhaikkiraan, is it because of similar raga or something? Originally Posted by Querida
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 18th July 2008 11:10 AM [Full View]
AV has given 44/100
Kumudham says "nanru"
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From: crajkumar_be on 18th July 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
Yes, Rithi Gowlai... Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 18th July 2008 12:16 PM [Full View]
Thx CR, though I don't have knowledge about raagas and stuff, knowing the name will be useful in future for me (I hope) Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Yes, Rithi Gowlai... Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 18th July 2008 12:22 PM [Full View]
Sasikumar, in his recent interview:
'Bala and Ameer are my gurus. After I screened the film for Bala, I was afraid what he would say about the film. Even if he scolds me, I would be happy but I can't take it if he doesn't say any words. After he saw the film, he came close to me, hugged me and kissed me. I wasn't expecting this kind of appreciation from him'
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From: rangan_08 on 18th July 2008 12:30 PM [Full View]
quite a surprising gesture by bala Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: rocketboy on 19th July 2008 12:57 AM [Full View]
Nalla figuru. .
கண்கள் இரண்டால் உன் கண்கள் இரண்டால்
என்னைக் கட்டி இழுத்தாய் இழுத்தாய் போதாதென
சின்னச் சிரிப்பில் ஒரு கள்ளச் சிரிப்பில்
என்னைத் தள்ளி விட்டு தள்ளி விட்டு மூடி மறைத்தாய்
Jai மட்டும் அல்ல theateril உட்கார்ந்திருந்த பலபேர் அப்படித்தான்
பாடியிருப்பார்கள்
கள்ளி!! Enna sirippudi unakku . Intha paatukkaka mattumae intha padathai paakalam.
அறிது அறிது தாவணி அணிந்த பெண்ணை காண்பதறிது
அதனினும் அறிது நகர்ப்புறத்தில் தாவணி அணிந்த பெண்
intha tamizh penkalellam(read sirumiyar , thirumana vayathai ettatha penkal) ,at least those in the Tamizh hinterland of Tamilnadu, en thavani poda matentranku theriyala
kandraavi eppa paathalum jeans Tshirt salwar kameez . Etho gramam pakka pona paakalam
Enna Kodumai Tamizh Pennae ithu
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 21st July 2008 07:59 PM [Full View]
RB idhu thaan unga review-a?
Illa padame innum paakalaya?
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From: rangan_08 on 22nd July 2008 04:29 PM [Full View]
saw the film last weekend..
a pat for the director for re-creating the 80's
kangal irandal - song & picturisation (you can have a glimpse of Gowravam poster in the middle of the song )
the scene where jai gets killed - he's almost dead when he comes to know that he's been deceived by his dearest. the stabbings thereafter causes no pain in him - it was like " seththa paamba adikkira madhiri.." jai was good in this scene.
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From: crajkumar_be on 22nd July 2008 05:10 PM [Full View]
2nd film in recent times where this film poster appears.. Originally Posted by rangan_08
(you can have a glimpse of Gowravam poster in the middle of the song )
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 22nd July 2008 05:14 PM [Full View]
Padam paathacha CR? Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
2nd film in recent times where this film poster appears.. Originally Posted by rangan_08
(you can have a glimpse of Gowravam poster in the middle of the song )
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From: crajkumar_be on 22nd July 2008 05:14 PM [Full View]
illa Sridhar.. just saw the song
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 22nd July 2008 05:16 PM [Full View]
pArunga! waiting for your review Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: RajaRam on 24th July 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
<dig> Originally Posted by Nerd
simple answer
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Till 5 week DASA collected 8.5 crores which is record in chennai city alone.
In Mayajal, till 17 days DASA collected 92 lakhs and shivaji collected 1+ crores in 110 days.
Now you can imagine DASA's success
</dig>
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From: Nerd on 24th July 2008 10:00 AM [Full View]
Let's see where it ends
Btw, subbu/Dasa conpees-la edhukku sivaji
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From: Achilles on 24th July 2008 10:16 AM [Full View]
I've watched the movie yesterday....Excellent movie....
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From: SoftSword on 24th July 2008 01:44 PM [Full View]
ur from salem by any chance??? Originally Posted by equanimus
No, sir. It's not released in Bangalore, of course. But, I'll be seeing tomorrow, hopefully, in Selam. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: equanimus on 24th July 2008 06:13 PM [Full View]
No, SoftSword. kaRRorkku sellum idam ellAm theatre. adhAn matter. Originally Posted by SoftSword
ur from salem by any chance??? Originally Posted by equanimus
No, sir. It's not released in Bangalore, of course. But, I'll be seeing tomorrow, hopefully, in Selam. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: SoftSword on 24th July 2008 06:28 PM [Full View]
apdiya...
namma ooronu nenachaen...
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From: P_R on 24th July 2008 10:49 PM [Full View]
Boring gorefest
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From: littlemaster1982 on 24th July 2008 10:50 PM [Full View]
Everyone else is raving about this film
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From: Nerd on 24th July 2008 10:54 PM [Full View]
Aahaa, my enthusiasm/keenness to watch this tottal daemaeg Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
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From: Roshan on 24th July 2008 10:55 PM [Full View]
in the hub? Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Everyone else is raving about this film enakku therinju oru naalu pErthAn pAthirukkaanga. adhula rendu pEr 'periyAr' pOnRa padangaLai aahaa oho'nu pugazhnthavanga ..
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From: littlemaster1982 on 24th July 2008 10:57 PM [Full View]
Roshan,
Not in hub. Orkut, my friends circle etc.
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From: Roshan on 24th July 2008 11:00 PM [Full View]
ellAm Maddy'aal vantha vinai Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
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From: P_R on 24th July 2008 11:19 PM [Full View]
Nerd,LM yhere may be some redeeming factors. adhaippaththi appuram pEsuvOm. Now
aapis-lErndhu kiLambi weekday-la padam paakkuradhukku evvaLo kastappada vENdi irukku. enakku therinja silapalar PV-Oda ellAm compare paNNi pEsunAnga. So idhu ellAm sErndha oru disappointment.
But overall impression was that I didn't find it engrossing at all.
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From: P_R on 24th July 2008 11:20 PM [Full View]
>digr>
Originally Posted by Roshan
ellAm Maddy'aal vantha vinai Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
I should have fearlessly gone to Jaane Tu Ya JaanE Na.
Weekend maRupadi full aayirum !
<end digr<
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From: Querida on 24th July 2008 11:44 PM [Full View]
uh oh!...PR i was hoping that it would be refreshing...but to hear this from you.... i hoped the resemblance between PV and SP stopped with the hairstyles...and the whole getting in trouble and escaping bit...
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 02:00 AM [Full View]
Ah, at last... someone! Not that I expected this film to be any good, but it was one mindnumbing piece of trash. I thought of writing something about it, but just couldn't gather myself to go beyond pondering where to start. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
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From: MrIndia on 25th July 2008 02:25 AM [Full View]
endha area salem-la. Originally Posted by SoftSword
i am from junction
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 06:16 AM [Full View]
how is it possible that for some its the best movie of the year while for some others its trash?
humans are real interesting beings.
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From: MrIndia on 25th July 2008 06:39 AM [Full View]
irrundhaalum.. unga "POI" review naan marakave maataen Originally Posted by NOV
how is it possible that for some its the best movie of the year while for some others its trash?
humans are real interesting beings.
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 06:50 AM [Full View]
good, pls do remember all my reviews.
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 08:05 AM [Full View]
It is unfair to compare movies like 'Periyar' and movies like 'Subramaniyapuram' . Originally Posted by Roshan
adhula rendu pEr 'periyAr' pOnRa padangaLai aahaa oho'nu pugazhnthavanga ..
'Periyar' is Biography .Praise on 'Periyar' not necessarly on it's technical part or as movie art ..People like you may take 'Periyar' movie as usual movie and checking whether it fit into usual cinema grammer ..But many others may have different angle ,checking whether it conveyed the life of periyar ,which is the real perpective of that movie .
'Periyar' movie was not for one who doesn't required/want to know about the person 'Periyar' .
That movie could be done in better way in terms of narration and technical aspect ..accepted ...But it is not fair to conclude one's cinema taste based on their verdict on 'Periyar' movie .
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 08:15 AM [Full View]
PR,
From the songs and clips i watched ,I too felt that it was not soooooo great as potrayed ,but defenitely different and worth a watch .
So do you think it is worth a watch ,though not extrodinary ?
I asking since I planned to watch in theatre ,if it will be released here.
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 08:25 AM [Full View]
joe, its definitely worth a watch and I am sure you will enjoy it.
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 08:27 AM [Full View]
Thanks NOV Originally Posted by NOV
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 08:29 AM [Full View]
ithukku kaaranam Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
naan illai
naan illai
naan illai
naan illai
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naan illai
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 08:30 AM [Full View]
Selva,
PR kooda neengaLum padam paarka poyirutheengaL?
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 08:31 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
good, pls do remember all my reviews.
Ya - They are classics in their own way
NOV - Most of your reviews can be trusted. (Yes - sollurathu selva thaan). Except the reviews you write for your favorite directors :P
Favorite director nnu naan sonnathu KB ya
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 08:37 AM [Full View]
selva.. one day... one day... you will really understand me.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:26 AM [Full View]
Oho PR neenga yen dheedirnu LM maadhri review kodukureenga
LM just kidding!!
Yen pudikila let me know Sandaikku naan ready neenga ready-a?
I will watch one more time this weekend :P
Btw PV? oh yeah SP is better than PV! Because I hate PV
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 09:27 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw PV? oh yeah SP is better than PV! Because I hate PV
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:27 AM [Full View]
Btw Mayajaal has increased from 4 to 12 shows this weekend
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:28 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw PV? oh yeah SP is better than PV! Because I hate PV why why why?
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 09:32 AM [Full View]
Nope. Was glad to see few who hate the most overrated movie of the previous year Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
why why why?
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 09:36 AM [Full View]
surely you know hate is an emotion that is closely linked to love.
there are lots of similarities between PV and SuPu... one is the rural, raw effect and the other the shock endings.
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 09:38 AM [Full View]
Ungalukku Dasa kooda athu maariya Originally Posted by NOV
surely you know hate is an emotion that is closely linked to love.
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 09:42 AM [Full View]
of course! if not I wont bother
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:42 AM [Full View]
ennaya poruthavaraikkum PV oru highly over-rated, natural-a edukka try panni veena pona oru kuppai! Originally Posted by selvakumar
Nope. Was glad to see few who hate the most overrated movie of the previous year Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
why why why?
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 09:42 AM [Full View]
It is like that ah :P Same doesn't go with my HATRED towards PV. It is different altogether Originally Posted by NOV
of course! if not I wont bother
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 09:44 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
ennaya poruthavaraikkum PV oru highly over-rated, natural-a edukka try panni veena pona oru kuppai! Originally Posted by selvakumar
Nope. Was glad to see few who hate the most overrated movie of the previous year Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
why why why?
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From: RehmanFan on 25th July 2008 09:45 AM [Full View]
same here Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
ennaya poruthavaraikkum PV oru highly over-rated, natural-a edukka try panni veena pona oru kuppai! Originally Posted by selvakumar
Nope. Was glad to see few who hate the most overrated movie of the previous year Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
why why why?
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 09:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw PV? oh yeah SP is better than PV! Because I hate PV
SP'ya pAthavanga PV mAthirinnu sonnathumE naan alert aayittEn But Prabhu went for it because they said it's like PV. Sridhar says SP is better than PV.
Vinthai migu ulagam
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 09:46 AM [Full View]
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
anyway, I think "natural-a edukka try panni" syndrome fits katradhu thamizh very much. but I wont call it kuppai
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:47 AM [Full View]
Innum naan Subramaniyapuram paarkkala, paarthuttu review pandren :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Oho PR neenga yen dheedirnu LM maadhri review kodukureenga
LM just kidding!!
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:47 AM [Full View]
Oh yeah opinion differs NOV adha thaane namma kaalam kaalam-a sollitu varOm? :P Originally Posted by NOV
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
anyway, I think "natural-a edukka try panni" syndrome fits katradhu thamizh very much. but I wont call it kuppai
Joe, Rehmanfan yeah PV ennaya poruthavaraikkum oru kuppai thaan
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 09:48 AM [Full View]
eppadiyum neenga adha 'it's not up to my expectation'nu' thaan solla pOreenga :P AdhuthAne unga vazhakkamAna review Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Innum naan Subramaniyapuram paarkkala, paarthuttu review pandren :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Oho PR neenga yen dheedirnu LM maadhri review kodukureenga
LM just kidding!!
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:49 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
eppadiyum neenga adha 'it's not up to my expectation'nu' thaan solla pOreenga :P AdhuthAne unga vazhakkamAna review Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Innum naan Subramaniyapuram paarkkala, paarthuttu review pandren :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Oho PR neenga yen dheedirnu LM maadhri review kodukureenga
LM just kidding!!
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:49 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
eppadiyum neenga adha 'it's not up to my expectation'nu' thaan solla pOreenga :P AdhuthAne unga vazhakkamAna review Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Innum naan Subramaniyapuram paarkkala, paarthuttu review pandren :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Oho PR neenga yen dheedirnu LM maadhri review kodukureenga
LM just kidding!! Pazhakkam vittu poga koodathunnu 'The Dark Knight' padatthukkum adhaiye sonnen, but I liked that film
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 09:49 AM [Full View]
OK Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Joe, Rehmanfan yeah PV ennaya poruthavaraikkum oru kuppai thaan
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 09:50 AM [Full View]
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:52 AM [Full View]
Recent tamil films: Pollaadhavan, Chennai-28. Originally Posted by joe
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 09:53 AM [Full View]
I see . Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Recent tamil films: Pollaadhavan, Chennai-28. Originally Posted by joe
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 09:53 AM [Full View]
Chennai-28 - ok, fair enough. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Recent tamil films: Pollaadhavan, Chennai-28. Originally Posted by joe
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
PollAdhavan -
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:55 AM [Full View]
I need to see that movie! Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Recent tamil films: Pollaadhavan, Chennai-28. Originally Posted by joe
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
Adhennamo I liked Anjadhe and Subramaniyapuram than Dasavatharam this year.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:56 AM [Full View]
Yoga,
I liked Polladhavan very much (barring few glitches).
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
Last week end also i think there were around 12 shows :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw Mayajaal has increased from 4 to 12 shows this weekend
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
Well, taste differs Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Btw, how about AnjAthey??? U liked it???
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 09:58 AM [Full View]
Oh I dont see Originally Posted by joe
I see . Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Recent tamil films: Pollaadhavan, Chennai-28. Originally Posted by joe
LM,
Neenga full satisfy aana padam (Thamizh) ethavathu irukka?
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:58 AM [Full View]
I heard Subramaniyapuram is releasing in Sathyam Cinemas today
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
Oh is it? pOna vAram naan oorula illa! Adhukum mundhina vaaram 4 show thaan pOtrundhanunga Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Last week end also i think there were around 12 shows :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw Mayajaal has increased from 4 to 12 shows this weekend
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
yeah 1 show per day and saturday ans sunday special morning shows 1 each day Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I heard Subramaniyapuram is releasing in Sathyam Cinemas today
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
Padam pidichirundhudhu, aana ennamo miss aana maadhiri oru feeling. Adhu enna-nu theriyala Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Btw, how about AnjAthey??? U liked it???
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
I think that is right Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Oh is it? pOna vAram naan oorula illa! Adhukum mundhina vaaram 4 show thaan pOtrundhanunga Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Last week end also i think there were around 12 shows :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Btw Mayajaal has increased from 4 to 12 shows this weekend
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 09:59 AM [Full View]
shriya thaan vaerenna Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Padam pidichirundhudhu, aana ennamo miss aana maadhiri oru feeling. Adhu enna-nu theriyala Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Btw, how about AnjAthey??? U liked it???
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:00 AM [Full View]
oru miss-a kottitu poi irrundheengana yedhayum miss pannirukka maateenga? Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Padam pidichirundhudhu, aana ennamo miss aana maadhiri oru feeling. Adhu enna-nu theriyala Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Btw, how about AnjAthey??? U liked it???
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:00 AM [Full View]
The hero's bike Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Padam pidichirundhudhu, aana ennamo miss aana maadhiri oru feeling. Adhu enna-nu theriyala Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Btw, how about AnjAthey??? U liked it???
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:00 AM [Full View]
Some of my friends also liked this film and one team mate who is ajith fan already seen 4 times
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From: littlemaster1982 on 25th July 2008 10:01 AM [Full View]
Thirumaran,
Ungalukku Shreya-va :P
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:01 AM [Full View]
very good news Originally Posted by Thirumaran
yeah 1 show per day and saturday ans sunday special morning shows 1 each day Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I heard Subramaniyapuram is releasing in Sathyam Cinemas today
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:02 AM [Full View]
yaen ungalukku vaenumaa Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:02 AM [Full View]
Yaar antha blacksheep??? :P Hubber??? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Some of my friends also liked this film and one team mate who is ajith fan already seen 4 times
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:04 AM [Full View]
no, avanukku director Bala voada friend mattrum sishyan nnu theriyaathunny ninaikiraen Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Yaar antha blacksheep??? :P Hubber??? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Some of my friends also liked this film and one team mate who is ajith fan already seen 4 times
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 10:06 AM [Full View]
I think he might know that. But he might have seen the movie for JAI who praised Thala sky high. Jai irukkum pothu mathavangala pathi kavalapattu irukka maattarunnu nenaikiraen Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no, avanukku director Bala voada friend mattrum sishyan nnu theriyaathunny ninaikiraen
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:08 AM [Full View]
appa Naan Kadavul release samayathula Aarya Ajitha bayangaramaa praise pannaa poathumgareenga Originally Posted by selvakumar
I think he might know that. But he might have seen the movie for JAI who praised Thala sky high. Jai irukkum pothu mathavangala pathi kavalapattu irukka maattarunnu nenaikiraen Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no, avanukku director Bala voada friend mattrum sishyan nnu theriyaathunny ninaikiraen
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:10 AM [Full View]
SeriyAna bathil Originally Posted by selvakumar
I think he might know that. But he might have seen the movie for JAI who praised Thala sky high. Jai irukkum pothu mathavangala pathi kavalapattu irukka maattarunnu nenaikiraen Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no, avanukku director Bala voada friend mattrum sishyan nnu theriyaathunny ninaikiraen
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:11 AM [Full View]
Antha dirty tricks ellAm engga kitta vElaykku AgAthu. Jai has been an Ajith fan since Vaali days. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
appa Naan Kadavul release samayathula Aarya Ajitha bayangaramaa praise pannaa poathumgareenga Originally Posted by selvakumar
I think he might know that. But he might have seen the movie for JAI who praised Thala sky high. Jai irukkum pothu mathavangala pathi kavalapattu irukka maattarunnu nenaikiraen Originally Posted by Thirumaran
no, avanukku director Bala voada friend mattrum sishyan nnu theriyaathunny ninaikiraen
He said this even b4 Subramaniapuram came out... :P
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:13 AM [Full View]
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:15 AM [Full View]
Simbhu voice??? SeriyA observe pannala... Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 10:16 AM [Full View]
Problem was between US and Bala. This movie is not a product of Bala. But his assitant. Moreover, I want to see this movie for JAI and not for anyone. I saw even Kaalai for Simbu. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
appa Naan Kadavul release samayathula Aarya Ajitha bayangaramaa praise pannaa poathumgareenga
The above things won't apply for the other movie you mentioned unless it happens from the concerned.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:16 AM [Full View]
Yeah, kanna mooditu vasanam mattum ketta Simbhu pesura maadhriye irruku esply in Su.Pu Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Simbhu voice??? SeriyA observe pannala... Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:16 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Antha dirty tricks ellAm engga kitta vElaykku AgAthu. Jai has been an Ajith fan since Vaali days.
He said this even b4 Subramaniapuram came out... :P
Ippa mattum enna, Arya kooda naan Amaravathi period la irunthu Ajith fan nnu solla mudiyaatha..
Summa thamasu.. Naama SuPu pathi paesuvoam
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 10:22 AM [Full View]
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:24 AM [Full View]
Wrong... FYI, Jai is a nephew of Deva. He was the keyboard player for Vaali song it seems. He knows Ajith sir & has been a fan since then. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
History theriyAma pEsapadAthu... :P
P.S ChummA, 'Naan Ajith Fan-nu' sonnA, nAngga kanna moodiththu support panna mAttOm.
Athu!!! Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Summa thamasu.. Naama SuPu pathi paesuvoam
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 10:26 AM [Full View]
SathiyamA enakku puriyala... Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
Expecting a pm atleast...
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:28 AM [Full View]
Athu Originally Posted by Thalafanz
P.S ChummA, 'Naan Ajith Fan-nu' sonnA, nAngga kanna moodiththu support panna mAttOm. Kanna thiranthu thaan support pannanum
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:31 AM [Full View]
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Thirumaran on 25th July 2008 10:32 AM [Full View]
onniyum purila Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Achilles on 25th July 2008 10:36 AM [Full View]
Yeah true.... Even i felt the same in Channai 600028 movie also..... Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 10:38 AM [Full View]
purinjuduchu! thanks Selva Originally Posted by Thirumaran
onniyum purila Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
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From: Thalafanz on 25th July 2008 11:23 AM [Full View]
But, unggalukku athu oru kasappAna seithi allavA... :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
purinjuduchu! thanks Selva Originally Posted by Thirumaran
onniyum purila Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
P.S Sorry if my post irritated you.
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 11:25 AM [Full View]
Pls ,back to subramaniyapuram
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From: selvakumar on 25th July 2008 11:26 AM [Full View]
Guess - many are discussing on something releated to the movie only Originally Posted by joe
Pls ,back to subramaniyapuram
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From: sarna_blr on 25th July 2008 11:29 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefest
appa kandippaa indha padam paaththEy aaganum....
PS... unga address'a PM pannunga, 2 Balayya padam courier panrEn...adhukkappuram endha padam paaththaalum boring gorefest'aa irukkaadhu ..
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From: joe on 25th July 2008 11:29 AM [Full View]
My guess is different Originally Posted by selvakumar
Guess - many are discussing on something releated to the movie only Originally Posted by joe
Pls ,back to subramaniyapuram
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From: crajkumar_be on 25th July 2008 11:35 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Boring gorefestnenjula beer-a vartheenga makkale Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 11:42 AM [Full View]
NOV, Originally Posted by NOV
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Speaking for myself, yes. And, by and large, I thought the same of 'paruththiveeran' too. I thought both these films were utterly vacuous, thematically bankrupt.
In general, I've grown increasingly impatient with such thoughtless regurgitation of banal themes like in this film -- on the lines of 'Thou shall not betray, or else you'll get yourself killed'; or, 'As you sow, so shall you reap.' And what's more, these films are hailed for these very themes.
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 11:51 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
NOV, Originally Posted by NOV
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Speaking for myself, yes. And, by and large, I thought the same of 'paruththiveeran' too. I thought both these films were utterly vacuous, thematically bankrupt.
In general, I've grown very impatient towards such thoughtless regurgitation of banal themes like in this film -- on the lines of 'Thou shall not betray, or else you'll get yourself killed'; or, 'As you sow, so shall you reap.' And what's more, these films are hailed for these very themes. rommmmmmmmbavE late reaction
Looks like Prabhu is now left alone with regard to PV
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 25th July 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
Idhu theva illadhadhunu nenaikiren... better discuss about Su.Pu :P Originally Posted by Thalafanz
But, unggalukku athu oru kasappAna seithi allavA... :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
purinjuduchu! thanks Selva Originally Posted by Thirumaran
onniyum purila Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
P.S Sorry if my post irritated you.
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From: sarna_blr on 25th July 2008 12:06 PM [Full View]
Oh..like that ah :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Idhu theva illadhadhunu nenaikiren... better discuss about Su.Pu :P Originally Posted by Thalafanz
But, unggalukku athu oru kasappAna seithi allavA... :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
purinjuduchu! thanks Selva Originally Posted by Thirumaran
onniyum purila Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Illa, purila Originally Posted by selvakumar
That is an added advantage when we see the movie in theatre :P (If you know what I mean) Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
But Jai looks like Vijay with Simbhu's voice
P.S Sorry if my post irritated you.
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 12:13 PM [Full View]
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by equanimus
NOV, Originally Posted by NOV
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Speaking for myself, yes. And, by and large, I thought the same of 'paruththiveeran' too. I thought both these films were utterly vacuous, thematically bankrupt.
In general, I've grown very impatient towards such thoughtless regurgitation of banal themes like in this film -- on the lines of 'Thou shall not betray, or else you'll get yourself killed'; or, 'As you sow, so shall you reap.' And what's more, these films are hailed for these very themes. rommmmmmmmbavE late reaction
nInga solRadhu sariyA puriyala. Can you please elaborate? What is it that you're referring to as "late reaction?"
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 01:04 PM [Full View]
interestingly equanimus, in both films I didnt co-relate both ie action and result. It was just happenstance for me (chaos theory if you like) when I saw PV and when ppl tried to connect both I was like Originally Posted by equanimus
"thats so ordinary."
It was the same for SuPu, I cant connect both.
In fact, in both my reviews I had mentioned that if not for the ending the movie would be no different than many others before it.
The treatment made the difference for me, not the story.
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From: P_R on 25th July 2008 01:04 PM [Full View]
Regarding PV....
equanimus, I think it was in your review that I read about PV being all about mise-en-scene and nothing else (sorry if I am wrongly attributing someone else's review to you). That is exactly what I liked about that film. Not its ridiculous moralism etc. That it could station you right there in the midst of things is something I found fascinating. Apart from that the seriousness with which Veeran talks about "central jail" ambitions are unfunny poor characterization. One would have to be imaginative to call that a flawless film.
Shorn off the mise-en-scene 16VayathinilE was a sentimental melodrama. But it is one of my favourite films of all time simply because it burst in like a storm bringing in - what I call, for a want of a better word - reality. PV kind of did the same.
Subramaniapuram did not. Padam moththamum timing miss aavudhu.
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 01:45 PM [Full View]
intha padam kuppainnu romba pEr padam release timeleyE sollittaanga (Selva's review in Thamizh was one of the best). So I thought the 'harsh' response (ie, agreeing to what Sridhar said !"PV oru highly over-rated, natural-a edukka try panni veena pona oru kuppai" of yours today was a bit too late. Originally Posted by equanimus
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by equanimus
NOV, Originally Posted by NOV
I suppose PR and equanimus also feel the same... about SuPu :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Speaking for myself, yes. And, by and large, I thought the same of 'paruththiveeran' too. I thought both these films were utterly vacuous, thematically bankrupt.
In general, I've grown very impatient towards such thoughtless regurgitation of banal themes like in this film -- on the lines of 'Thou shall not betray, or else you'll get yourself killed'; or, 'As you sow, so shall you reap.' And what's more, these films are hailed for these very themes. rommmmmmmmbavE late reaction
nInga solRadhu sariyA puriyala. Can you please elaborate? What is it that you're referring to as "late reaction?"
Moreover from what you had tried to say so far about PV and related stuff, I had this impresson that that you liked the movie overall or at least you had no complaints as such.
PS: Unfortunately am reminded of your comments on Priyamani's selection for the National Award. I am still not sure whether you were agreeing, disagreeing or inbetween both there
Anyway, let us not digress here
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From: P_R on 25th July 2008 02:30 PM [Full View]
sari PV kuppai. Let us kudumbaththOda celebrate the cinematic structural excellence of Mozhi and move on.
@ Roshan
equanimus has always been deflating - nearly puncturing- the PV balloon here - not to mention the not-so-short notes in his blog.
btw on Subramaniapuram, I am reluctant to believe the news about Bala's appreciation. appappo Rajini paaraattunAr appidinnu poster ottuvAngaLE, adhu maadhiri-nnu ninaikkirEn.
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 04:30 PM [Full View]
Yes, NOV. These are motifs that surface out of nowhere and are handled in such a banal manner; and, there's no thematic resonance whatsoever. But that aside, I thought the treatment itself was quite mediocre. (And, in case you're interested, in my original take which PR has linked to, I'd also wondered how valuable it is to take what happens in the film as "just happenstance.") Originally Posted by NOV
interestingly equanimus, in both films I didnt co-relate both ie action and result. It was just happenstance for me (chaos theory if you like) when I saw PV and when ppl tried to connect both I was like Originally Posted by equanimus
"thats so ordinary."
Oh, I clearly see what you mean, PR. And, yeah, I did make a comment on those lines about the mise en scène of Paruthiveeran, and I agree that the same can't be said of Subramaniapuram at all. But, the skin-deep characters and the posturing in Paruthiveeran didn't go well with me to say the least. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
16 vayathinilE is a very good example to give in this respect. As you rightly put it, shorn off its setting -- which was truly path-breaking, it's a sentimental melodrama. It is quite a simplistic tale, but the characters are much more affecting. That said, 16 VayadhinilE is not among my all-time favourite Tamil films. So, I do understand that we differ in our estimation of PV, in the same manner as we do (though to a much lesser extent) with 16V.
Just digressing a little bit: I'd used the term "mise en scène" rather loosely to primarily mean a "realistic setting," which is just one of the several things that the term refers to. Beyond the commendable setting, I don't think the film's formal concerns in general, are especially remarkable.
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 04:45 PM [Full View]
>>Digr. (Mods, pardon.)
Oh, but that's a thoroughly wrong impression, Roshan. PR has already linked to the notes on the film in my blog. And, as far as I remember, I've bashed up the film here too. If at all anything, I can only be accused of taking my criticisms on the film (and the filmmaker) to extreme levels. In which case, I'd plead guilty as charged! Originally Posted by Roshan
Well, frankly, I'm very tired of explaining it. I did NOT "agree" with her winning the national award. As someone who didn't think much of her performance, I was just thinking out loud to myself (and made the mistake of posting it), wondering as to who the other contenders were. That's all. Actually, what saddens me is that an inconsequential stream-of-thought post could go astray and meet such curt reception. Originally Posted by Roshan
PS: Unfortunately am reminded of your comments on Priyamani's selection for the National Award. I am still not sure whether you were agreeing, disagreeing or inbetween both there
<<End digr.
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From: MrJudge on 25th July 2008 04:52 PM [Full View]
equanimus:
what is the url for your blog?
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From: sarna_blr on 25th July 2008 04:53 PM [Full View]
whose blog is this Originally Posted by MrJudge
http://movielane.blogspot.com/2007/0...thiveeran.html
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 06:55 PM [Full View]
thanks for the thoughts equanimus. I shudder to think what would be your reaction if I directed a film.
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From: Nerd on 25th July 2008 07:16 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
PV was a critical + commercial success, a rarity these days :P
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From: equanimus on 25th July 2008 08:35 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
"kudumbaththOdu" must be the most abused term as far as reviews of Tamil films are concerned. "viththiyAsam" is also a close contender.
Why, PR? Sasi Kumar assisted Bala after all. A gesture or two from Bala appreciating the film is not surprising. (I can't speak for Bala, of course -- may be, he did actually love the film!) Did you watch Suhasini's take on the film? Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by NOV
I shudder to think what would be your reaction if I directed a film.
Jokes apart, I'm probably being highly critical of PV as a reaction to the kind of acclaim it got. I don't have any delusion of being completely objective in my comments about a film. And, I think it's fair enough. After all, what's worse (IMO of course) than a 'Kaadhal' and a 'Paruthiveeran' getting the same kind of raves from everyone? So, as PR puts it, I feel the urge to puncture the PV balloon.
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 08:48 PM [Full View]
everyone's raving about kaadhal.I watched it on tv and was not greatly impressed. PV and SuPu I watched in cinema. could that be the difference?
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From: Nerd on 25th July 2008 09:02 PM [Full View]
kAdhal and PV getting the same kind of raves
kAdhal did not win any major award, was not taken to pilim festivals did not enjoy that big a commercial success comparitively !
NOV i first watched kAdhal in a pirated Internet print and was bowled over completely and kAdhal DVD is the most used/abused in my collection :P
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From: VENKIRAJA on 25th July 2008 09:06 PM [Full View]
I would call it a rather disturbing movie(especially climax) more than a good movie.Maybe amidst scum this might look a bit bright.Still its rubbish.The movie was pointless(Guys complaining about Kallori's climax are convinced with PV's...Don't know why)As equanimus says,Chennai 28 struck me better...and it is one of the best ever movies I've ever seen:Classic!...I even go to the extent of saying one of the 10 best movies I liked!The award to priyamani,deserves the comment of cheran.Her reply was nonsense though) Originally Posted by Nerd
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
PV was a critical + commercial success, a rarity these days :P
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 09:11 PM [Full View]
dont you dare say anything about kalloori
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From: NOV on 25th July 2008 09:13 PM [Full View]
chennai 28 theme maybe new for tamil films but it has been beaten to death in english movies... from disney movies to adult movies. :P
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From: Nerd on 25th July 2008 09:13 PM [Full View]
and don't you guys dare calling PV a kuppai its a good film though not extraordinary and yes the climax was
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 09:27 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
>>Digr. (Mods, pardon.)
Oh, but that's a thoroughly wrong impression, Roshan. PR has already linked to the notes on the film in my blog. And, as far as I remember, I've bashed up the film here too. If at all anything, I can only be accused of taking my criticisms on the film (and the filmmaker) to extreme levels. In which case, I'd plead guilty as charged! Originally Posted by Roshan
Thanks for sharing your views. Would check your blog some time. Anyway, good to know that PV didnt appeal much to you
Leave it EQWell, frankly, I'm very tired of explaining it. I did NOT "agree" with her winning the national award. As someone who didn't think much of her performance, I was just thinking out loud to myself (and made the mistake of posting it), wondering as to who the other contenders were. That's all. Actually, what saddens me is that an inconsequential stream-of-thought post could go astray and meet such curt reception.
<<End digr. I shouldn't have mentioned it I feel. Really sorry about it.
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From: ajithfederer on 25th July 2008 09:32 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Roshan on 25th July 2008 09:52 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
btw on Subramaniapuram, I am reluctant to believe the news about Bala's appreciation. appappo Rajini paaraattunAr appidinnu poster ottuvAngaLE, adhu maadhiri-nnu ninaikkirEn. I happened to see Rajini's thArALa mayamAna pArAttu for Uliyin Osai recently on TV
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From: equanimus on 26th July 2008 12:11 AM [Full View]
Nerd, Originally Posted by Nerd
kAdhal and PV getting the same kind of raves
kAdhal did not win any major award, was not taken to pilim festivals did not enjoy that big a commercial success comparitively !
I was just talking about the local critical acclaim. Both these films were very highly acclaimed. But, a great film like 'Kaadhal' and a patchwork like 'Paruthiveeran' are infinitely apart, to say the least. In general, almost every single film which strays away from formulaic cinema is by and large received with the same kind of enthusiasm, and hailed as a classic. That is the point I was actually trying to make with respect to the critical reception of Tamil films.
Our films going to film festivals in non-competitive section is just a recent fad, and, in reality, we shouldn't really consider it an international acclaim at first place. But, yes, Paruthiveeran went to Berlin Film Festival and all that jazz, and, is in general picked as Tamil cinema's answer to "ulagath thara" cinema. That's of course all the more reason for me to offer my dissenting view on the film!
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From: Sanjeevi on 26th July 2008 12:21 AM [Full View]
From IR section
In Kumudam arasu badhil:
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சமீபத்தில் எதைக் கண்டு ஆச்சர்யப்பட்டீர்கள்?
`சுப்ரமணியபுரம்' படம் பார்த்தபோது இரண்டு ஆச்சர்யங்கள். ஆச்சர்யம் 1.படம் பார்க்கும் இன்றைய இளைய தலைமுறை ரசிகர்கள் இருபது வருடங்களுக்கு முன்பு ஹிட்டான இளையராஜாவின் `சிறு பொன்மணி' பாட்டிற்கு தியேட்டரே அதிர கைதட்டியது.
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From: vasanth2006 on 26th July 2008 06:00 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: MrIndia on 26th July 2008 06:26 AM [Full View]
avinga andha scene-a paathu kaithatti irrupaanga
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From: app_engine on 26th July 2008 08:01 AM [Full View]
Not that way! I was watching the vimarasanam on sunTV in my sister's home and my b-i-l remarked "என்ன அருமையான பாட்டு, இளையராஜா மாதிரி வருமா"...and he is of the younger generation with no bias toward any MD. Originally Posted by MrIndia
avinga andha scene-a paathu kaithatti irrupaanga
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From: ThalaNass on 26th July 2008 08:04 AM [Full View]
Saw the movie yesterday ... nice one with unexpected twist at the end!!! For me, Subramaniapuram > Anjaathey
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From: MrJudge on 26th July 2008 12:39 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
It is unfair to compare movies like 'Periyar' and movies like 'Subramaniyapuram' . Originally Posted by Roshan
adhula rendu pEr 'periyAr' pOnRa padangaLai aahaa oho'nu pugazhnthavanga ..
'Periyar' is Biography .Praise on 'Periyar' not necessarly on it's technical part or as movie art ..People like you may take 'Periyar' movie as usual movie and checking whether it fit into usual cinema grammer ..But many others may have different angle ,checking whether it conveyed the life of periyar ,which is the real perpective of that movie .
'Periyar' movie was not for one who doesn't required/want to know about the person 'Periyar' .
That movie could be done in better way in terms of narration and technical aspect ..accepted ...But it is not fair to conclude one's cinema taste based on their verdict on 'Periyar' movie . Exactly Joe. The movie served its purpose. The movie Periyar was good (by saying that it doesn't mean that I agree on all things he said/preached). I don't think anybody here said the movie is extra-ordinary or 'aaho oho' (athellam story-um illama, screenplay-vum sothappuna uppuma kindra padaththukku thaan solluvaanga ) puriya vendiyavangalukku puriyumnu nenaikkiren.
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From: MrJudge on 26th July 2008 12:41 PM [Full View]
Glad to know you liked it and IMO, anjAthEy > SP. Originally Posted by ThalaNass
Saw the movie yesterday ... nice one with unexpected twist at the end!!! For me, Subramaniapuram > Anjaathey
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From: MrJudge on 26th July 2008 12:45 PM [Full View]
A few will find this movie unattractive here in the forum but the fact is after anjAthEy, this movie is indeed a decent one released this year.
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From: Sanjeevi on 26th July 2008 01:13 PM [Full View]
The same thing happened in Ch-28 also when they used IR BGMs/Songs (AS, mvAsanai). This is my experience Originally Posted by vasanth2006
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: Vivasaayi on 26th July 2008 06:58 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
every charecters had a similar feel in Pv...even the dialogue delivery,attitude and bodylanguage of saravanan,karthi,priyamani...
i was born and brought up in a town surrounded by villages...even now there are charecters who resemble padhinaru vayadhiniley...but PV?
every charecters looked similar and shallow for me from what i have watched...or am i missing something and it needs some brain to get into the charecters of the movie as they are widely acclaimed
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From: Vivasaayi on 26th July 2008 07:00 PM [Full View]
I strongly believe that rajas fan count will beat any actor or music director in tamilnadu Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: P_R on 26th July 2008 10:47 PM [Full View]
poNanthinni similar to Kazhuvan similar to SevvAzhai similar to Douglas ? Come on !
என்னப்பா என்னை அப்பிடி நெனச்சுட்ட ? நான் அப்பிடிப்பட்ட ஆள் இல்லப்பா by poNanthinni (in that voice of his) has me splits everytime I recall it. And it is not an artificially funny line for effect. That is quite believably the way his character is.
idhu maadhiri niRaya sollalaam. As I said, it is not a flawless film.
It has charecterization issues. But to say every character was shallow and to insinuate that the nativity was faked is not acceptable.
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From: VENKIRAJA on 26th July 2008 11:10 PM [Full View]
I lived my entire life(sari sari 18 varusham thaan)in cities but then I couldn't accept the characters or the nativity.My parents felt the same.They were born and brought up in villages.(FYI,I saw the movie seperately,they did watch it seperately) Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
poNanthinni similar to Kazhuvan similar to SevvAzhai similar to Douglas ? Come on !
என்னப்பா என்னை அப்பிடி நெனச்சுட்ட ? நான் அப்பிடிப்பட்ட ஆள் இல்லப்பா by poNanthinni (in that voice of his) has me splits everytime I recall it. And it is not an artificially funny line for effect. That is quite believably the way his character is.
idhu maadhiri niRaya sollalaam. As I said, it is not a flawless film.
It has charecterization issues. But to say every character was shallow and to insinuate that the nativity was faked is not acceptable.
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From: joe on 26th July 2008 11:14 PM [Full View]
IMO ,The closest to reality for a village character i can relate is the person with Kara kara thondai ,who accompany with PonvaNnan.
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From: VENKIRAJA on 26th July 2008 11:28 PM [Full View]
poNanthinni... Originally Posted by joe
I liked ponvannan and saravanan also.Didn't like Karthi(though he performed well)and priyamani like that.Thats where the problem lies.I hated that "Oororam puliyamaram" song.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 27th July 2008 11:25 AM [Full View]
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From: MrJudge on 27th July 2008 11:39 AM [Full View]
That depends which part of TN you lived, not all villages are same in TN. PV characters also relate to a certain sect of a village. They don't represent all villagers. May I know your village? Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
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From: Nerd on 27th July 2008 11:56 AM [Full View]
Just finished watching it with my friends - Good. I am not overwhelmed but it definitely is not a kuppai, IMHO. Ganja kaRuppu and his characterization deserves a standing ovation. I mean if you have seen the movie, you would know it and the last scene reminds of at least a couple of scenes earlier, which kind of gives you a hint if you are really smart! And the fate of Ganja kaRuppu is wonderfully captured, no I am not talking about the 2008 scene, the period between 1980 and 2008 which explains the aftermath of *that* incident. I am sounding obscure because I don't want to give away spoilers.
Jai needs acting lessons badly, and his Madurai accent leaves a lot to be desired. But he was simply amazing in his last scene, that fall with no dialogues, his eyes expressed a myriad of emotions. Sasikumar as paraman was wonderful, my second most favorite character in the movie. samuthirakani comes third, he was almost flawless. This is one movie in which I feel each and every scene was carefully written, none of them was wasted and I think this movie is very close to real life. The romance part could have been a little better and since it does not play that big a role w.r.to the movie's theme, I feel its OK. Swathy always has that smile on her face, sometimes I felt it was forced. She needs some acting lessons as well.
James vasanthan's BGM was very very amateurish, very disappointing. If it were IR, the movie would have been so much better. But he makes up with kaNgaL iraNdAl and the various instruments that play the song in the background. Cinematography and art direction were totally out of the world, definitely award worthy. Even the little fights they pickup in the streets and in the theater screen muRattu kALai ( :P ) have so much meaning, they get us into the skin of the characters.
Definitely worth a watch and I will watch a couple more times and perhaps change my verdict from Good to very good
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From: MrJudge on 27th July 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
Thanks for the link LM. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Baradwaj Rangan raves about Subramaniyapuram
He says "a local politician who’s just set out for his evening walk".
I think he comes out of his house for a morning walk not evening, Am I wrong?
"The success of a class act like Subramaniyapuram - in theatres that are typically looked down upon as those that cater to the “masses,” yet - is happy proof that the idiots aren’t the audiences so much as the filmmakers who’ve made careers out of chronically underestimating them."
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From: MrJudge on 27th July 2008 12:24 PM [Full View]
There are also couple more hints from the beginning if you are smart you can catch them. Originally Posted by Nerd
The smiling parts between her and Jai were stretched too much, that made them look forced. Originally Posted by Nerd
Cinematography was excellent, they have done a commendable job in art direction too. I found couple of errors in the art direction. When Swathy reads the horoscope of Dinathanthi paper, the fonts are in new types. I assume the old Dinathanthi had different set of fonts. And during the thiruvizha season, every house has rangoli drawn on the street in front of it. I think during those times, only pulli kolams are popular and not rangolis. Originally Posted by Nerd
I would say a good film, because it reminded me of Pattiyal, Pithamagan, Paruththiveeran and Kathal. I want to watch it again but couldn't do it yet Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: MrJudge on 27th July 2008 12:59 PM [Full View]
“Stars do not make a movie, he declares here boldly, “they only bring the audience to the theatre. Once inside the hall, it is the script and the director’s skill that holds the audience’s attention”. -Sasi Kumar
athu....
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From: MADDY on 27th July 2008 07:21 PM [Full View]
watched Subramaniapuram - unbeliavably boring ........second half rekindled my smoking habit which was dormant for 8 hrs...........motifs,plots,sub-plots,characterisation, rawness, doom, darkness, BGM, acting, retro feel, costumes etc etc - nuthing worked for me..........only comedy in first half and some twists in final 15 mins worked for me....i didnt like one of the twists either.......seriously, this film has too many fathers........
and what violence OMG - too much for my liking......again, my respect for Anjaadhey/BR/Kurusowa school of "suggestive narration" style grows manifold......
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From: P_R on 27th July 2008 07:53 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: swathy on 27th July 2008 08:05 PM [Full View]
Black and White Dyanora TV with door adhula vara yaadon ki bharat song.
Black color heavy telephone.
vayar chair
Scooter
Silver color Pandian bus
annam dollar potta long chain
ner vagidu yeduthu valichu seevi threading kooda pannadha college ponnu
ambassadar car
chithra studio, kali mark, sivalingam silks (director comes from this family) hajeemoosa,selection ad
appo irundha theatergaloda posters
andha kaalathu 10 ruppee note
murattu kaalai release
innum innum chinna chinna visayangalai nerthiya sedhukki sedhukki kuduthu irukkar director
40sla irukkiravangalai innum kavarum indha padam.
good movie . oru thadavai pakkalam.
second half is horrible.
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From: MrJudge on 27th July 2008 09:58 PM [Full View]
I was expecting this from you MADDY. Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: P_R on 27th July 2008 10:50 PM [Full View]
இந்த கப்பி படத்துக்காக போய் சண்டை போட்டுக்கலாமா ? :P Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Yen pudikila let me know Sandaikku naan ready neenga ready-a?
Anyway here goes.
Spoilers galore ahead. Please choose between reading at your own risk and watching at your own risk.
When Azhagar was blahblahing to Tulasi for the umpteenth time I was expecting (if not rooting for) someone to shut him up with some sorugings. The predictable God of the veecharuvAA did not disappoint me, thereby undoing the apparently pivotal twist in the film. So much for how unengaging the film was for me.
Let us get the good things out of the way first.
It did have many nice things to say: the forms of violence may be deceptive (the satisfactory smile of the apparently weak, straightlaced, softspoken uncle, when told about the murder of Azhagar); violence for position being motivated by personal pride and family honor : (Somu's wife on the phone with her father); and position in turn violating the apparent basic foundations of honor (Rajathi and MokkachAmi).
The fringe portrayals came out quite well. For instance, acting by the guy who plays ex-councilor Somu. You can see the mix of sloth,cunning and insecurity which he shows effortlessly.
"என்னய்யா உங்க ஆளை ஜெயிக்கவச்சுட்டீங்க" disarmingly and discomfitingly to his rivals' men is one example. The scene where he reports to the senior police officer is another. He was the most impressive role for me. Kanagu (Samudrakkani) and Paraman (Sasikumar himself) do their parts pretty well. The schemer and the sanity-check roles that are assigned to them are well crafted. Apart from that, there has been some good research in recreating the 80s that I must say has paid off. The bus-stand romeo, Paraman's brother's spectacles, the vinAyagar on the wall in the scene Ravi is talking to Paraman/Azhagar in prison. Things of this sort have been created meticulously.
The theme (put painfully in words by Ravi) நம்ம ஊர்க்காரங்ஞ தான்யா இந்த மாதிரி 'பழக்கத்துக்காக செய்யுறது' is indeed well chosen. But the way the film is crafted does not let you sympathize with the characters. Not because you disagree with them, because you disregard them. I am honestly not able to say why I couldn't care less about Azhagar-Paraman from the start. They seemed so made up !
The problems start with the 'hero'. Accent and fluency are not his strong points. I hope he seeks out a dubbing artist who can act for him before he becomes a star and his awful voice starts having a fan-following.The asattu smile of his and the supposed kaLLachirippu of the heroine have been some serious attempts at cute romance gone bad."இந்த ஜூ-வக் குடுத்தா எவளா இருந்தாலும் பாக்கத்தான் செய்வாளுக" was kind of my reaction too. The whole thing was done to death. Reprieves like the self-imposed dignity in the murattu-kkaLai scene were well done.
The cunning manipulative politician is as old as the hills. That the calls were Kanagu's after all was well placed though. How many repetitive scenes of the advice spewing mother ? How many declarations of Azhagar's vengeance vow ? In restaurants so it is audible for the convenience of the plot. Contrived like hell. Scenes jump and exist for their own sake. Often no continuity. The only interesting thing in the long drawn Thiruvizha sequence is mokkachAmi's snide comment after he receives Somu's brother's contribution. Apart from that the whole half an hour was irrelevant and boring.
To top it all our traditional malaise of not trusting the audience. Kasi after a half-funny scene of shouting in front of the locked house walks
repeats multiple times the importance of keeping people afraid, Azhagan shouts uncountable number of times about his thirst for vengeance. Just in case the "pointlessness of it all" wasn't clear when the abused mother mentions her சங்கிலி-less existence, we have Paraman explaining to Kasi how they were pennilessly happy before things got complicated.
There is a sequence where Azhagar-Paraman land up in prison going through the procedures there (before they meet Ravi). The way it is shown, their acting andf BGM try hard to encourage you to sympathize with the needless ruin they brought upon themselves. Unfortunately you feel nothing for them.
The second half is a bit of a joke. A long one at that. The execution of Munusu's murder was absolutely listless, the gory murders in the seettAtta-club pointlessly boring, the treachery was not surprising, the gore of the climaxes repulsive but not shocking.The worst of all, which in my opinion was ample proof of absence of directorial vision was the Subramaniyapuram song.Their advancement/decline to thugship (சுதானமா இருந்துக்குங்க) is shown quite heavily. Kasi being the most eager of the three to get the money was planted well. Cut to a mindless splurge-happy sequence !!! The subramaniapuram song completely mess with whatever little mood that was built till then and the rest of the film follows.
One of the major aspects of screenwriting is the consciousness of the difference between screentime and storytime. 28 years can pass in a second (traditionally we have a wheel turning to the tune of a sitar). That something that occuppied us and seemed important to us because it occuppies our memory is because it appeared last scene. That time has passed since then is to be factored in when the screenwriter has the next scene 28 years later.
The set-up has the right ingredients but the end product did not. Kasi's life has been wasted in the prison sentences for murders he has been wrongly implicated of. He has indeed been served a greater punishment than is his due. But Dumka and DopA making it a point to finish him off is to show the cinders are alive 28 years later. You can try and digest that. The whole thing is built on the fact that, we the audience saw the treachery only 5 minutes ago. And Dumka supposedly murders on behalf of the audience who has not seen Kasi suffer. Contrived, manipulative and fake. In pattern with the rest of the film.
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From: Nerd on 28th July 2008 07:06 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Did I miss that ? The kAdhal siluvayil song plays in the background and if you are talking about the saraNadaiginRa scene, they very well know at that point - kaNaku will save him after the first 15 days. Remember kaRuppu says they have been betrayed only after those 15 days in the court. So, I think azhagar and paraman were simply going through the motions and I don't think the director wanted us to sympathize with them. Only azhagar was thinking about thuLasi all the time and paraman would be shown talking with ravi in the background. And I don't think the director was judgemental at least upto that point!
On Ganja kaRuppu
- to dOppA and dumukkAn - chinna vayasulErunthu onnum mannuma pazhagirukkOm. Also the *jatti* scene shows how close those three particularly are. And in most scenes only D and D hang out with kaRuppu (at least 2+ temple scenes). And he starts hanging out with azhagar and paraman only after realizing that something big awaits him ! (ravi veLLa vanttAplayaam-dA So I think D and D were extremely disappointed and shocked to find kaRuppu's betrayal and though he spent 28 years in the jail, they (D and D) themselves did not do anything to him. epdRA unakku manasu vandhuchu, nammaLukku ellAme avinga dhaanEdA, unakku indha thaNdaNai ellAm pathAdhudAAnd that gives some meaning to the very last scene and yes it was not entirely convincing.
- Him manipulating sithan to the fullest. Actually paraman asking him right after the sithan scene innikku yaara correct panna pORa (for thanni) - shows how shrewd he is
- He was the one who they send to get the tickets for muRattukkALai, another example. On a sidenote he says one of the funniest lines in the movie in that scene: yOv vidungayyA enga aathaaLuku udambu seriyilla, naan seekkiram pOganum
-He is the one who brings azhagar and paraman to samuthirakkani, which opens up the possibility of... and kuthungadaa kuthungadaa (pazhanichAmi) and he conviniently does not get himself involved.
On the romance, the whole siRu ponmaNi song has been spent on it. Thinking of it, in most 80s movies the song picturization would exactly be like that. And thuLasi, looking at azhagar in that paper cutting was a good thing I thought
And on not trusting the audience, common this is his first movie and its definitely a big risk. If he had gone for a little subtelety, perhaps most of the audience would not have understood the movie at all and now that he has tasted success, he ll definitely get better
And as I said earlier, a better hero and a better BGM would have made this movie a masterpiece. Imagine a sEthu like BGM (may be even the same BGM) in the second half
Over to Sanguine Sridhar now
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From: MADDY on 28th July 2008 08:09 AM [Full View]
//disgr// FYI, i liked Anjaadhey and its narration style to the fullest.....this film, to me was pointless....//end disgr// Originally Posted by MrJudge
I was expecting this from you MADDY. Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 08:59 AM [Full View]
Didn't feel that way. The doleful look, the feel of the song seemed pretty much, I distinctly remember both looking at each other as they enter the dorm-cell brimming with an emotion I am only able to call self-pity. Originally Posted by Nerd
yOv vidungayyA enga aathaaLuku udambu seriyilla, naan seekkiram pOganum
...yes it was. But talking about "indha kaalaththu poNNunga blah blah blah"....was irritating. This is what I meant by not-trusting. I don't mean being all subtle. Dialogues like this ruin whatver subtlety he tried to built. Originally Posted by Nerd
Apart from that, my impressions have not taken into account considerations like first film, upcoming artists should be lauded etc.
Anyway, I think BGM is the least of the problems for this film. Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: selvakumar on 28th July 2008 09:11 AM [Full View]
I just saw the first 20+ mins last night. Nothing impressed me except heroine's homely looks and her eyes
She has powerful screen presence that I couldn't concentrate much on the 80's things like posters, wall paintings, Irumbu Vaali etc.
The scene in which Kanja Karuppu alambufies in front of Mokkaisaamy's house reminded me another movie and I just thought
'Dei... avanaa nee'
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From: joe on 28th July 2008 09:16 AM [Full View]
May it be the main reason for the BO success ? Originally Posted by selvakumar
I just saw the first 20+ mins last night. Nothing impressed me except heroine's homely looks and her eyes She has powerful screen presence that I couldn't concentrate much on the 80's things like posters, wall paintings, Irumbu Vaali etc.
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From: Thirumaran on 28th July 2008 09:31 AM [Full View]
In Shanthi friday night shows were full Originally Posted by joe
May it be the main reason for the BO success ? Originally Posted by selvakumar
I just saw the first 20+ mins last night. Nothing impressed me except heroine's homely looks and her eyes She has powerful screen presence that I couldn't concentrate much on the 80's things like posters, wall paintings, Irumbu Vaali etc.
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From: selvakumar on 28th July 2008 09:34 AM [Full View]
Thanks for the review Prabu. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Will see the movie fully and update my comments
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 28th July 2008 11:06 AM [Full View]
Whenever I am going to watch a new movie being its Sasikumar’s “Subramaniyapuram” or Perarsu’s “Sivakasi”, I don’t carry any expectations [Exception Super Star\ Ulaganayagan movies]. Su.Pu satisfied me. It is not a flawless classic but it is indeed very good movie with some few mistakes.
Now whom do you mean Hero? Jai? just because he had a lover? No, no one! No one in this movie is “Good” too! Just re-iterate all the main characters. This movie is a game between life and death with a slight touch of romance and sentiment. I accept that Jai’s fluency is not good! Let us forget the rule that gang leader or rowdy should have such a matured look [Pudhupettai Dhanush or Venkatesa Pannayar] and proper accent. I mean, who designed this rule?PR: The problems start with the 'hero'. Accent and fluency are not his strong points. I hope he seeks out a dubbing artist who can act for him before he becomes a star and his awful voice starts having a fan-following
Now this...
Sympathize! I don’t know about others but I did not. Honestly, why we should sympathize for the main characters, just because they are betrayed? So what Jai does? He treats the trio’s as his Godfathers so how it justifies his romance with that girl? Can’t we consider this as a betrayal? And he shouts to Paraman once [Earlier before the murder of that politician] that he will destroy everyone in that home if they are against his love.PR :There is a sequence where Azhagar-Paraman land up in prison going through the procedures there (before they meet Ravi). The way it is shown, their acting and BGM try hard to encourage you to sympathize with the needless ruin they brought upon themselves. Unfortunately you feel nothing for them.
I personally feel that it is a construction of a destructive climax, simply “thappu mela thappu”.PR: The second half is a bit of a joke. A long one at that. The execution of Munusu's murder was absolutely listless, the gory murders in the seettAtta-club pointlessly boring
Oho Oho Oho! Hold on. What’s so fake about this? namma madurai-la nEnga pAkadha munvirOdha kolaigal? So saying 28 years is too much. Single line “pazhakathukAga panradhu”. This movie also easily satisfy “ kathi eduthavan..”PR: Kasi's life has been wasted in the prison sentences for murders he has been wrongly implicated of. He has indeed been served a greater punishment than is his due. But Dumka and DopA making it a point to finish him off is to show the cinders are alive 28 years later. You can try and digest that. The whole thing is built on the fact that, we the audience saw the treachery only 5 minutes ago. And Dumka supposedly murders on behalf of the audience who has not seen Kasi suffer. Contrived, manipulative and fake. In pattern with the rest of the film.
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 11:55 AM [Full View]
Okay. I take back the word hero. One of main characters appidinnu sollikkalaam. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
I didn't mean his voice ought to have been "strong". It just did not "act". It is better than Ravikrishna's voice. That is not much of an achievement.
As I said earlier in this thread, moththa padathulayum timing miss aagudhu. Every line seems to come a tad late and artificial. I am not able to explain this better. I would give a counterexample where things worked like clockwork in terms of reactions, delivery etc. That film isn't popular in this thread
For that matter even Anjaadhe - the best film thus far this year - had atrocious acting and severe "timing miss" problems. But it had enough in the screenplay,events and picturization that helped gloss over these glitches. SP lacked that.
அதைத் தான் நானும் சொன்னேன். ரெண்டு பேரும் மூஞ்சியை தொங போட்டுக்கிட்டு ஜைல்-லை ஒருத்தரை ஒருத்தர் சோகபிம்பமா பார்த்டுக்கும்போது டைரக்டர் ரெம்ப ட்ரை பண்ணியிருக்கார்-னு மட்டும் தோணிச்சு. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
With the knives being unpacked and distributed multiple times in painfully slow motion from multiple hiding places. And the gleeful Subramaniapuram song thrown !!! Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
btw where was thEneeril snEgitham ? I like that song too. But it was not there when I saw the film.
Sridhar I am not objecting to the fact that vengeance cannot be harbored that long. Nor am I sweeping away all time jumps are incredible (flashback illAma Tamil padam eduththa censore certificate-E kidaikkAdhu). Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
What I was saying is the way the last scenes are shown was very contrived.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 28th July 2008 12:36 PM [Full View]
Still I don’t understand your "timing miss" concept Prabhu. Let us see what the other hubbers says about the movie, till then “Let us agree to disagree”
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From: Thirumaran on 28th July 2008 01:28 PM [Full View]
We should ban this dialogue in the hub Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
till then “Let us agree to disagree”
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From: sarna_blr on 28th July 2008 01:37 PM [Full View]
instead we should ban the hubbers using this dialogue Originally Posted by Thirumaran
We should ban this dialogue in the hub Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
till then “Let us agree to disagree”
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From: selvakumar on 28th July 2008 01:52 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
watched Subramaniapuram - unbeliavably boring ........second half rekindled my smoking habit which was dormant for 8 hrs...........motifs,plots,sub-plots,characterisation, rawness, doom, darkness, BGM, acting, retro feel, costumes etc etc - nuthing worked for me..........only comedy in first half and some twists in final 15 mins worked for me....i didnt like one of the twists either.......seriously, this film has too many fathers........
and what violence OMG - too much for my liking......again, my respect for Anjaadhey/BR/Kurusowa school of "suggestive narration" style grows manifold...... Maddy - Looks like the trend is here to say.
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From: crajkumar_be on 28th July 2008 04:22 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
avasarappattu EdhAvadhu mudivukku vandhuttIngaLA?
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 04:34 PM [Full View]
Okay, a poor choice of expression on my part. It is the case where the lines are there and they are fine but the way they are spoken, the expressions/reactions come across as studied and late. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
avar JTYJN paarthadhulErndhE oNNum sariyillai. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by MADDY
avasarappattu EdhAvadhu mudivukku vandhuttIngaLA?
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From: crajkumar_be on 28th July 2008 04:41 PM [Full View]
PR, neenga eppo paakka poreenga JTYJN?
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 04:43 PM [Full View]
vaaram iraNdu naatkaL mattumE vaazhum uyirinangaLil oruvan. next oasis 5 days away.
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From: crajkumar_be on 28th July 2008 04:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: sarna_blr on 28th July 2008 04:52 PM [Full View]
ur Profile says ur Occupation is mEsthiri.... r u a mEsthiri Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
or Civil engineer
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 04:59 PM [Full View]
sarna,
coolie-kku vayasAna mEsthri dhaanE
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From: sarna_blr on 28th July 2008 05:01 PM [Full View]
my father is mEsthiri.... in blr mEsthiri means building workers... that is koththanaar....mason ... Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
sarna,
coolie-kku vayasAna mEsthri dhaanE
thatswhy I was interested in knowing that u or ur family members are koththanar or mason or mEsthiri...
BTW , I didnt get ur answer
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 28th July 2008 05:06 PM [Full View]
My knowledge, about thamizh cinema or cinema generally I am still a novice, a learner. To me, the movie looked good and apt to be called as “super!”. Thanks for your explanations Prabhu; I respect those though I don’t agree with many of your points, at least to my level.
I am happy that this movie is a success and I strongly believe that this guy can deliver much more preeminent movies in future.
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 05:12 PM [Full View]
sarna I have PMed you.
enakkum thONinadhai sonnEn avvaLavu dhaan Sridhar. btw romba neetti neetti ezhudhuravangaLukku adhigam theriyumnu ellAm ninaikka vEndAm. Often they are trying to find out what they are thinking by writing out their confusions
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From: MADDY on 28th July 2008 05:14 PM [Full View]
//disgr// neenga vera - namma kadha dhaan - "quitting smoking is so easy, i have done it thousand times" - kadha aache Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by MADDY
avasarappattu EdhAvadhu mudivukku vandhuttIngaLA?
PR, yes, JTYJN has sanitised me and my life.....vaazhkayila thirindhittaen //end disgr//
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From: sarna_blr on 28th July 2008 05:15 PM [Full View]
i understood this after reading many long posts in this hub... Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
sarna I have PMed you.
enakkum thONinadhai sonnEn avvaLavu dhaan Sridhar. btw romba neetti neetti ezhudhuravangaLukku adhigam theriyumnu ellAm ninaikka vEndAm. Often they are trying to find out what they are thinking by writing out their confusions
i checked ur PM and replied
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 28th July 2008 05:24 PM [Full View]
nice Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
enakkum thONinadhai sonnEn avvaLavu dhaan Sridhar. btw romba neetti neetti ezhudhuravangaLukku adhigam theriyumnu ellAm ninaikka vEndAm. Often they are trying to find out what they are thinking by writing out their confusions
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From: P_R on 28th July 2008 05:41 PM [Full View]
Reminded of the Sathyraj-Vadivelu scene in Looty. Originally Posted by MADDY
PR, yes, JTYJN has sanitised me and my life.....vaazhkayila thirindhittaen //end disgr//
aayaaL maRichu pOyi
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From: Roshan on 28th July 2008 06:42 PM [Full View]
ungaLukkAvatahu iraNdu naaL .. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Anyway, engE payaNam ?
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From: Roshan on 28th July 2008 06:44 PM [Full View]
ithuvum quitting smoking mAthirithAn Originally Posted by MADDY
//disgr// neenga vera - namma kadha dhaan - "quitting smoking is so easy, i have done it thousand times" - kadha aache Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by MADDY
avasarappattu EdhAvadhu mudivukku vandhuttIngaLA?
PR, yes, JTYJN has sanitised me and my life.....vaazhkayila thirindhittaen //end disgr//
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From: Roshan on 28th July 2008 11:19 PM [Full View]
Just realised my confusion Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
meetingla ukkAnthuttu inimE thiruttu thanamA hubbing paNNakoodathu
Just saw the post on 'Mesthri'
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From: MrIndia on 29th July 2008 12:04 AM [Full View]
finally saw subbu puram for swathi..
We shud appreciate the director for not including unwanted masala items,punches,item numbers..
His detail to many things were interesting..
showing the telephone,buckets,thotti thanni,movie advertisement in 3 wheels,interval murukku,sound shop,ambassador.
guess he couldnt get a 80s BUS where the heroine first sees the hero
siru ponnumani asaiyum.. song brought the light of ilayaraja back.. wish he gives some more songs like this.
The main drawback of the movie was there was no plot and interesting twists... a director who gives so much attention to small details didnt give much importance to story and screenplay.
JaI's accent was not appropiate.
swathi's eyes and smile were the only interesting part in the movie.
James vasanthan has done a gud job.
Hope this director comes up with a gud screenplay in the future.
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From: jaiganes on 29th July 2008 02:13 AM [Full View]
Oh neenga Dasavai fulla paathu mudichuteengala? Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
PR, neenga eppo paakka poreenga JTYJN?
Congrats.
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From: directhit on 29th July 2008 11:52 AM [Full View]
padam innum paaka mudeela just 15 minutes seen so far 
- gotto see the rest today maybe
Swathi
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From: sarna_blr on 29th July 2008 11:53 AM [Full View]
Judge sir,
I am leaving in a place wr I cant see good tamil movies....
SANDA....AYUDHAM SEIVOM ....KURUVI ellaam inga release aagudhu....
But mozhi, ch-28, subramaniapuram are not releasing here
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From: MADDY on 29th July 2008 11:53 AM [Full View]
ofcourse, i couldnt sit thru movies like vyabaari and sivakasi too....yes u r right Originally Posted by MrJudge
I knew you can't sit through this kind of movies. Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: joe on 29th July 2008 11:53 AM [Full View]
downloaded version ? Originally Posted by directhit
gotto see the rest today maybe
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From: directhit on 29th July 2008 11:56 AM [Full View]
yes Originally Posted by joe
downloaded version ? Originally Posted by directhit
gotto see the rest today maybe 
innum konja kaalathukku avalo theatre visits irukkadhu
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From: joe on 29th July 2008 11:57 AM [Full View]
Etho theatre-la oodura maathiri solluReenga Originally Posted by directhit
yes Originally Posted by joe
downloaded version ? Originally Posted by directhit
gotto see the rest today maybe innum konja kaalathukku avalo theatre visits irukkadhu Released in singapore ?
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From: MrJudge on 29th July 2008 11:57 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
enna oorpa athu? Bangalooruvaa?
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From: MrJudge on 29th July 2008 11:58 AM [Full View]
So you are saying SuPu is on the level of vyabaari and sivakasi? Originally Posted by MADDY
ofcourse, i couldnt sit thru movies like vyabaari and sivakasi too....yes u r right
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From: directhit on 29th July 2008 11:58 AM [Full View]
Joe, release ae aagalayaa i thought it did - and infact neenga sonnengalae KT didnt release nu - one guy in my office was saying he saw it here in theatre
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From: sarna_blr on 29th July 2008 12:00 PM [Full View]
Hyderabad.... :P Originally Posted by MrJudge
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
enna oorpa athu? Bangalooruvaa?
but blr'la ellaa thamizh padamum release aagum
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From: joe on 29th July 2008 12:02 PM [Full View]
As far as i know ,until last week it was not released ..You may be right about KT ..it might be released by somebody other than Ayangaran in some unusual theatre for Tamil movies ,for few days ..(it happened to chennai28 -released at Tiong bharu plaza) Originally Posted by directhit
Joe, release ae aagalayaa i thought it did - and infact neenga sonnengalae KT didnt release nu - one guy in my office was saying he saw it here in theatre
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From: MADDY on 29th July 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
yes, if u think i'm only fit for soft/artificial movies..... Originally Posted by MrJudge
So you are saying SuPu is on the level of vyabaari and sivakasi? Originally Posted by MADDY
ofcourse, i couldnt sit thru movies like vyabaari and sivakasi too....yes u r right
btw, length of staring sequence is perfectly normal..........girls, those days hmmmmmmmmm :tortoisecoilswirl: :dreams:
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From: joe on 29th July 2008 12:05 PM [Full View]
Nowadays movies getting opposite extremes of opinion ..Katrathu thamizh ,dasavatharam and now Subramaniyapuram.
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From: sarna_blr on 29th July 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
I didnt like Vettayaadu Vilayaadu ... OrampO... Sivakasi.... thirupathi... Sivaji... HeyRam etc... Originally Posted by MADDY
yes, if u think i'm only fit for soft/artificial movies..... Originally Posted by MrJudge
So you are saying SuPu is on the level of vyabaari and sivakasi? Originally Posted by MADDY
ofcourse, i couldnt sit thru movies like vyabaari and sivakasi too....yes u r right
btw, length of staring sequence is perfectly normal..........girls, those days hmmmmmmmmm :tortoisecoilswirl: :dreams:
so Mr Judge, wt will u say .... ellaappadangalumE orEy level'aa
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From: MrJudge on 29th July 2008 12:20 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
I didnt like Vettayaadu Vilayaadu ... OrampO... Sivakasi.... thirupathi... Sivaji... HeyRam etc...
so Mr Judge, wt will u say .... ellaappadangalumE orEy level'aa If you don't like a movie, quoting some other movie from that same genre/level is fine. But what is the association between vyabaari/sivakasi and subramaniapuram? I knew MADDY didn't like Paruththiveeran, if he had said I didn't like PV too. I wouldn't have replied to him.
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From: MADDY on 29th July 2008 12:26 PM [Full View]
PV was excellent until the climax.....except for climax, i like the movie a lot Originally Posted by MrJudge
sridhar, adhu enna "andha rendu..." oru pause apparum next phrase
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From: MrJudge on 29th July 2008 02:49 PM [Full View]
Oh, is it? I remember you calling the movie unarchchi surandal, rapings of india and a film like PV shouldn't be encouraged. Originally Posted by MADDY
So I thought you didn't like the movie, I should revisit the old thread then
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From: selvakumar on 29th July 2008 02:57 PM [Full View]
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From: jaiganes on 31st July 2008 04:06 AM [Full View]
hmmm ....
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From: rangan_08 on 31st July 2008 12:00 PM [Full View]
Y'day, coffee with Anu - Sasikumar, (Vi)Jai, Kanja karuppu & Swathy were the guests. Very jovial team. Swathy, being a North Indian sounded so cute with her "Kanni thamizh", especially the way in which she said "Enna landha" in Madurai slang was awesome (ofcouse, prompted by Sasi).
Karuppu was the "jolly good fellow" of the team. He called Anu "yekka" and other "anney".
In on-TV segment, Balaji Sakthivel, Vetrimaran, Venkat Prabhu & Premji congraulated the team and passed their comments. They appreciated Samudhrakani's performance very much.
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From: MrJudge on 31st July 2008 12:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rangan_08
Is she a North Indian? I thought she is from Andhra. Well, for us anything above Chennai is North
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From: SoftSword on 31st July 2008 01:19 PM [Full View]
great guys...
looks like the movie is in number one postion as reported by many of the websites...
great to see an emerging talent getting acknoledged...
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From: MrJudge on 31st July 2008 01:26 PM [Full View]
The movie absorbed 2.5 crores to complete and it is going to give back 15 to 20 crores by estimates. Originally Posted by SoftSword
ithu thaanya HIT-tu....
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From: NOV on 31st July 2008 01:28 PM [Full View]
I am thrilled to hear that it is doing well. VERY encouraging....
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From: SoftSword on 31st July 2008 01:31 PM [Full View]
BTW...
when was this movie released.... how many successful days has it completed....
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From: rangan_08 on 31st July 2008 01:35 PM [Full View]
Yes, she is from the North. She had acted as the heroine's sister in the telugu film " Adavari matalukku......." which was re-made as "Yaradi Nee Mohinee (ada, therinja vishayamdhane pa..). She atually pulled Sasi's legs by saying how he used to find it difficult to pronounce the name of the telugu film - he pronounced it correctly in the program, though. Originally Posted by MrJudge
Is she a North Indian? I thought she is from Andhra. Well, for us anything above Chennai is North
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From: MrJudge on 1st August 2008 11:04 AM [Full View]
oru mani neraththula ulagame mariduthu
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From: rangan_08 on 1st August 2008 11:46 AM [Full View]
As narrated by Swathy...
She went to Sasi's office alongwith her mother and Sasi made them to wait for a long time...she said "Mamma (mother!) poidlama ??" When Sasi finally came in she thought, "romba chinna payyana irukkare..". Then Sasi told her about the story and said, your character name is Thulasi, which means an "Auspicious Plant"...and she started laughing (everybody did !! )
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From: MrJudge on 1st August 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
rangan:
enna daily oru post Swathy interview-la irunthu konjam konjamaa?
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From: Thirumaran on 1st August 2008 12:06 PM [Full View]
Ninaivugal Originally Posted by MrJudge
rangan:
enna daily oru post Swathy interview-la irunthu konjam konjamaa?
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From: rangan_08 on 1st August 2008 12:10 PM [Full View]
Y'day couldn't do it completely, due to tight schedule in office. Ippo konjam free BTW, this is my last post reg. the interview.
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From: MrJudge on 1st August 2008 12:17 PM [Full View]
enna ippadi sollitteenga... Originally Posted by rangan_08
Y'day couldn't do it completely, due to tight schedule in office. Ippo konjam free BTW, this is my last post reg. the interview.
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From: rangan_08 on 1st August 2008 12:33 PM [Full View]
No Judge, I mean, actually there's nothing more interesting to tell, about the interview....anyways, discussions about SP will still continue
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From: Kalyasi on 4th August 2008 12:22 PM [Full View]
Saw the movie in DVD... The first 40 mins very very good... and a for the director for maintaining the nativity... Enga oor (Trichy) subramaniapuram maadri ye irunthuchu locations ellam... But he cud have avoided the gory murder scenes... ... Overall a good movie....
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From: Thirumaran on 4th August 2008 12:25 PM [Full View]
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
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From: rangan_08 on 4th August 2008 12:37 PM [Full View]
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
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From: Thirumaran on 4th August 2008 01:27 PM [Full View]
first time Originally Posted by rangan_08
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
Last year mothamaa paarthathae 7 padam thaan.. Intha thadava Dasa mattum 7 times paarthuttu, matha padanagala vittaachu
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From: sarna_blr on 4th August 2008 01:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
first time Originally Posted by rangan_08
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
Last year mothamaa paarthathae 7 padam thaan.. Intha thadava Dasa mattum 7 times paarthuttu, matha padanagala vittaachu 
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From: jaiganes on 4th August 2008 09:59 PM [Full View]
See the problem? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
first time Originally Posted by rangan_08
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
Last year mothamaa paarthathae 7 padam thaan.. Intha thadava Dasa mattum 7 times paarthuttu, matha padanagala vittaachu
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From: Alek Niranjan on 4th August 2008 10:06 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
See the problem? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
first time Originally Posted by rangan_08
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
Last year mothamaa paarthathae 7 padam thaan.. Intha thadava Dasa mattum 7 times paarthuttu, matha padanagala vittaachu
In Subramaniapuram?
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From: MrJudge on 4th August 2008 10:08 PM [Full View]
Why are you SO happy? Originally Posted by sarna_blr
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From: jaiganes on 4th August 2008 10:09 PM [Full View]
No. Originally Posted by Alek Niranjan
Originally Posted by jaiganes
See the problem? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
first time Originally Posted by rangan_08
eththanavadhu thadavai ?? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Running housefull in the week ends Planning to see this week end :P
Last year mothamaa paarthathae 7 padam thaan.. Intha thadava Dasa mattum 7 times paarthuttu, matha padanagala vittaachu
In Subramaniapuram?
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From: kutti_anand on 5th August 2008 01:54 AM [Full View]
Hi,
I saw the movie last week in Coimbatore. I liked the movie very much. I just went to the movie, coz my friends told that its good. Till then i hadnt seen any song or scene from the movie. Trailer mattum paatha maadhiri nyabagam.....
Plus :
1) Swathy
2) Kangal Irandal song (I think many ppl went for this song itself)
3) 1980 setup....
4) climax la rendu twists.....
Minus:
1) Violence. Though i liked it, i felt family-oda paaka mudiyuma nu therila.
vera endha negatives-um thonala, except for some minor flaws....
I still cannot digest the first twist (what swathy does to Jai).... Romba kashtama irundhuchu. ippo kooda kangal irandal paatu paakumbothu, indha ponne ipdi senjirucha nu feel panniten.... Nachu nu oru twist (Really unexpected).... It was well shot too.... She keeps on crying without any dialogues.... good direction......
Second twist was not as much as the first one, but was done well..... Another unexpected one.....
Did anyone see the trailor, where Sasi will chase swathy? I think censor cut or director cut pannitanga.... I thought, how it would be if sasi killed swathy? couldnt come to a conclusion....
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From: kutti_anand on 5th August 2008 01:55 AM [Full View]
Innoru doubt....
Madurai vechu padam edutha Hit....
Aana, enga coimbatore vechu edutha ella padamum flop.... SOK, Arul, etc......
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From: A.ANAND on 5th August 2008 08:22 AM [Full View]
sakarakati film coimbatore shoot pannalaye??
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From: kutti_anand on 5th August 2008 10:55 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
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From: MrJudge on 5th August 2008 11:32 AM [Full View]
Yes, many movies based on Madurai are doing well, Madurai people also dominate the industry, that has been the case for long time. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: raaja_rasigan on 5th August 2008 11:35 AM [Full View]
enna ippadi solliteenga.. edukka theriyathavan edutha ella padamum flop thaan aagum... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
namma ooru vechu padam eduthe periya aal aana KS Ravikumar-ah marandhuteengala..
panchayath scenegala re discover pannadhe namma ooru padangalthan !!!!!!!!!
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From: P_R on 5th August 2008 11:40 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Kandukondain Kandukondain
Manivannan: panjAyathu scene illAtha thamizh padamaa !! remba risk edukkuraangaLE.
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From: MrJudge on 5th August 2008 11:44 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
nattamai
KSRavikumar
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From: equanimus on 5th August 2008 12:34 PM [Full View]
About this "recent trend," I'll say this much. 'kAdhal' is probably the most influential film in this respect. But, like with all great films, its influence only set the "trend," not the standards.
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From: Kalyasi on 5th August 2008 12:37 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: kutti_anand on 5th August 2008 12:42 PM [Full View]
Naatamai, chinna gounder, cheran pandian (Gobichettipalayam)..... vera onnum oduna maathiri therila..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
enna ippadi solliteenga.. edukka theriyathavan edutha ella padamum flop thaan aagum... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
namma ooru vechu padam eduthe periya aal aana KS Ravikumar-ah marandhuteengala..
panchayath scenegala re discover pannadhe namma ooru padangalthan !!!!!!!!!
In case of madurai: Ghilli, thimiru, Kaadhal, Subramaniyapuram, etc, etc........ Neraya padam kalakiruku.... Thimiru ellam oru padam nu hit airuku..... SOK sema movie, nearly 30 to 40 percent shot in coimbatore, but flop...... enna kodumai idhu?
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From: rangan_08 on 5th August 2008 12:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Kandukondain Kandukondain
Manivannan: panjAyathu scene illAtha thamizh padamaa !! remba risk edukkuraangaLE.
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From: kutti_anand on 5th August 2008 03:56 PM [Full View]
Next to madurai, CBE has produced many actors.... Originally Posted by MrJudge
Yes, many movies based on Madurai are doing well, Madurai people also dominate the industry, that has been the case for long time. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Sathyaraj, Kovai sarala, R. Sunderarajan, Sivakumar (Surya & Karthi too), Thalaivan Goundamani, and I think Vijay also has his roots in CBE....
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From: omega on 11th August 2008 02:44 PM [Full View]
Watched the movie over the weekend. Loved the first half. Thought the movie was a bit directionless in the second. Loved those twists which were definitely kind of unexpected. Pretty good for a debut.
Kangal Irundhal
(for the last couple of weeks).
Surprised to see my 3 year old daughter liking this song (both to watch & hear).
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th August 2008 03:41 PM [Full View]
Bala & his assistants are keen on showing raw violence on screen, heard that Sasikumar kills samuthirakani like kozhi thalaya thiruvura madhiri.
PS: I know that Bala is an assistant of Balu Mahendra.
Saw the name of vetrimaran (polladhavan director) in the title card of Adhu oru kanakalam (BM's Dhanush film)
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From: Thirumaran on 11th August 2008 03:43 PM [Full View]
replace "2" for "3" in omega's post. the rest is same. :P
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From: sarna_blr on 11th August 2008 03:44 PM [Full View]
avignaa'vukkum enga Dhaavani dhEvadhaya pudichhcirukku Originally Posted by Thirumaran
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th August 2008 03:48 PM [Full View]
oohooo... TM... magal pera solli neenga sight adichu veetla yemathittu irukeengala :P
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th August 2008 03:55 PM [Full View]
yesterday, coimbatore suriyan FM was playing only 80's & 90's songs for the whole day saying Classic sunday!!!!
Evening 4 to 5 pm it is Kadhal Kadhal & they played "siru ponmani"
My sister asked.. idhu enna Bhagyaraj padama? (thinking of pudhiya varpugal)
I explained, idhu barathiraja hero-va nadicha padam.. enga thalaivar padina pattu... vijayashanthi is the heroine.. she was
occasionally I used to listen to this song from my pc & she was least interested those times.
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From: sarna_blr on 11th August 2008 03:57 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
yesterday, coimbatore suriyan FM was playing only 80's & 90's songs for the whole day saying Classic sunday!!!!
Evening 4 to 5 pm it is Kadhal Kadhal & they played "siru ponmani"
My sister asked.. idhu enna Bhagyaraj padama? (thinking of pushiya varpugal)
I explained, idhu barathiraja hero-va nadicha padam.. enga thalaivar padina pattu... vijayashanthi is the heroine.. she was
occasionally I used to listen to this song from my pc & she was least interested those times.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th August 2008 04:00 PM [Full View]
nan edit panradhukkulae.. quote pannitiya
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From: Thirumaran on 11th August 2008 04:03 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
:P
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From: sarna_blr on 11th August 2008 04:03 PM [Full View]
netri kan thirappinum kutram kutramE
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From: littlemaster1982 on 15th August 2008 02:01 PM [Full View]
Watched the movie. Good one
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From: joe on 15th August 2008 02:41 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Watched the movie. Good one After long time ,postive verdict from LM
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From: Morning Glory on 15th August 2008 05:27 PM [Full View]
Movie was pretty good, but I feel that the second half was dragged out too much with excessive violence. Both Jai and the director cum friend were excellent.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 17th August 2008 04:13 PM [Full View]
I might have liked the film more, if I hadn't known the climax twists Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Watched the movie. Good one After long time ,postive verdict from LM The movie is not great, just good IMO.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 17th August 2008 07:57 PM [Full View]
Watched Subramaniyapuram.
Good movie compared to other araicha mavu's. As all said, 2nd half there is nothing other than violence.
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From: Morning Glory on 18th August 2008 08:39 AM [Full View]
Koffee with Anu - The Subramaniapuram Team
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgk0A...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ezK...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRM7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtqXh...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtqXh...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jennM...eature=related
Enjoy!
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From: Cinefan on 18th August 2008 11:51 AM [Full View]
Saw the movie on Saturday-Very impressive esp for a debutante.
Hope he does not turn out to be a one film wonder but continues to make interesting,out of the box,well crafted films in future too.
Also felt his debut is far superior to Bala's&Ameers' first films& a shade better than Vetrimaran's 'Polladhavan'.
Bala has gone downhill making a irritating Nanda,an artificial Pithamagan&then going without a film for 5 years now.
Ameer's first was very average&have not seen his Ram&Paruthiveeran to make comments.
Hope Sasi&Vetri continue the good work.
None of the actors in Sub....could be termed extraordinary but everyone has done a good job.
Jai has to improve his modulation&do away with his Vijay inspired
mannerisms.
A few questionsSpoilers ahead)
1)Azhagar&Paraman are on bail when they go on a killing spree.Also it's clear that they have jumped bail.Why are the police not shown as searching for them esp with Somu becoming a 'Mavatta Thalaiver'&these two gunning for his brother Kanagu?
2)Why did kasi betray Paraman-for money?Who is the guy in the ambassador who gives him money-Ravi?if yes,why him?
3)Why was Kasi sentenced to jail for murders he did not commit?
4)The tears in Kasi's eyes in the end-Was it regret OR did he want to tell something to his lame friend?
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From: raaja_rasigan on 18th August 2008 11:59 AM [Full View]
2) Thulasi's father - Somu
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From: Cinefan on 18th August 2008 12:05 PM [Full View]
Oh!Revenge for his brother's murder? Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Kasi betrayed for the money right?
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From: raaja_rasigan on 18th August 2008 12:12 PM [Full View]
If I read previous pages, some hubbers say that in trailer Sasikumar chases Thulasi to kill her (may be for Azhagar's death). If u consider that, Thulasi was killed, then we can take it as the revenge for his daughters murder. I guess, they cut those scenes to minimise the violence. Originally Posted by Cinefan
Oh!Revenge for his brother's murder? Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Yes, but I think this is done by the director to give some twist in the end Originally Posted by Cinefan
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From: Cinefan on 18th August 2008 12:15 PM [Full View]
Didn't see any scene of Paraman attacking Tulasi.If that scene was there don't understand why it was cut out. Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
If I read previous pages, some hubbers say that in trailer Sasikumar chases Thulasi to kill her (may be for Azhagar's death). If u consider that, Thulasi was killed, then we can take it as the revenge for his daughters murder. I guess, they cut those scenes to minimise the violence. Originally Posted by Cinefan
Oh!Revenge for his brother's murder? Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Yes, but I think this is done by the director to give some twist in the end Originally Posted by Cinefan
There is enough violence in the movie,editing out a scene will hardly make a difference.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 18th August 2008 12:29 PM [Full View]
Violence against ladies are strictly prohibited, like the policies of our anti-heroes Originally Posted by Cinefan
!!!!
Only director can answer for these queries!!!!
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From: jaiganes on 18th August 2008 06:54 PM [Full View]
I would rather suggest hubbers from discussing plot spoilers in PMs instead of posting them - I have not seen the movie yet and would like to see it to get a notion first hand.
and Cine fan - Bala gone down hill- a?
we must fight it out in the PMs or in a separate thread. He has gone many steps ahead with pithamagan if you consider nandha one step down after sethu.
I personally feel sethu is the kinda film any debutant would do (with a load of comrpomises) to draw attention. After that he has gradually gone up in his own way making his own films instead of trying hard to please anyone in the audience and for a mainstream film director to do this - the craft and dedication required are phenomenal - no one person can point at Bala' s films and say he is chickening out and he diluted the content etc., He is the first director in thamizh commercial film scene who has withheld himself from bowing to the needs of distributors by adding unnecessary elements inspite of having two big stars in his movies. to continue further .. I would do it in a different thread and not in this one. The vibes of subramaniapuram have given me a whole positive feel about thamizh cinema directors who are slowly regaining the ground they lost to star actors who simply were treating the directors and the audience very badly.
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From: VENKIRAJA on 18th August 2008 08:03 PM [Full View]
I feel this movie gets better when you watch it again.Second half,I liked it better.This movie isn't shallow.Its really deep enough.Jai deserves some award for it.Please don't discourage this fella.The music was top-notch.Especially the usage good old ones of the King.The climax was superb(I felt like I'd watched million dollar baby again,same feelings).Liked it very much when compared to PV.PV was disturbing and more of a village love story.This is biography. Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
I just felt the light-set "affair" was totally unnecessary.And again Swathy duplicate voice-"paduthiruchu".
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From: Cinefan on 19th August 2008 11:09 AM [Full View]
Jai,
Agree with you on Bala-yes he doesn't pander to distributors,star actors.He is in his own world&makes the kind of films he wants.
It's just that i don't like his execution.Now,don't think we can really fight out on this count.
You love his films,I don't,we will leave it at that.There might be a film in future which i may like but as of now,am not impressed with his last two ventures.
As far SP,watch it,def one of the better films to hit the screens in recent times.
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From: sarna_blr on 19th August 2008 11:14 AM [Full View]
:P which is great movie according to u Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I might have liked the film more, if I hadn't known the climax twists The movie is not great, just good IMO.
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From: kutti_anand on 19th August 2008 12:34 PM [Full View]
RR, the trailer is in youtube. It shows like Paraman is chasing Thulasi. I already liked the movie and would have liked it more had he killed her. I dont mind the violence in movies....
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From: MrJudge on 19th August 2008 12:44 PM [Full View]
To me, Nandha < Sethu < Pithamagan. Of his three films, Pithamagan is well executed. I hope NK betters PM's execution.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 19th August 2008 12:57 PM [Full View]
I too liked it... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Captain rasigan-ah irundhuttu violence pidikkadhunnu solluvena... vettu kuthu ellam screen-la partha pidikkum.. nijathula rathatha parthale azhuthuduvaen Originally Posted by kutti_anand
hav u listened Thulasi's dialogue after Azhagar is being killed, "paavi.. ippadi seyya vechuttiye" to his sithappa kanagu Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: kutti_anand on 19th August 2008 01:07 PM [Full View]
Yes i listened to that. but still, innum konjam convincing a irundhirukum. I insisted my friend to see the movie. he was shocked with the twists.... I dont think i've seen any movie recently with such great unexpected twists. No one wud have ever thought that Thulasi will kill Azhagar.... Even though that scene was heavy, i liked it very much just for the way it was shot.... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
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From: rangan_08 on 19th August 2008 01:17 PM [Full View]
Some of you must have read this news...
Sasikumar has been signed in to do the lead role in the film titled "Nadodigal" which will be directed by Samudhrakani (Kanagu).
Pazhikku pazhi...
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 01:23 PM [Full View]
I don't know how many of you listened James vasanthan radio interview (link already given).
when James vanathan was teaching music in a school at kodaikaanal ,sasikumar was a student in 8th std ..From that day he used to tell James vasanthan "நான் எப்படியாவது ஒரு டைரக்டரா வருவேன் .அப்போ நீங்க பெரிய மீயூசிக் டைரக்டரா இருப்பீங்க .கண்டிப்பா என் படத்துக்கு நீங்க மியூசிக் போட்டு தரணும் சார்"
But finally Sasi himself gave a chance to his teacher.
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From: sarna_blr on 19th August 2008 01:45 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rangan_08
Some of you must have read this news...
Sasikumar has been signed in to do the lead role in the film titled "Nadodigal" which will be directed by Samudhrakani (Kanagu).
Pazhikku pazhi...
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From: kutti_anand on 19th August 2008 02:01 PM [Full View]
Theneeril Snegitham song is great.... I felt that song should have been in the movie. But the song was totally modern song with rap. but still, such a good song went without being picturised....
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From: P_R on 19th August 2008 02:21 PM [Full View]
Wish this was picturized instead of Subramaniapuram song. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: kutti_anand on 19th August 2008 02:41 PM [Full View]
Adhuvum nalla song thaan...... Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Wish this was picturized instead of Subramaniapuram song. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: Vivasaayi on 19th August 2008 02:43 PM [Full View]
theneeril snegitham Originally Posted by kutti_anand
theeradha pechukal
pin seetil minmini
nice lyrics
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From: P_R on 19th August 2008 02:43 PM [Full View]
Perhaps. But I felt the situation was inappropriate for such a song. And I found its celebration feel out of sync and irritating.
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From: Vivasaayi on 19th August 2008 02:44 PM [Full View]
"kadhal siluvayil"
is my fav song in trhe movie...hope its the fav of few others
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From: MrJudge on 19th August 2008 03:01 PM [Full View]
Is that the shankar mahadeven song? I like all songs except that one.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
"kadhal siluvayil"
is my fav song in trhe movie...hope its the fav of few others
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From: Vivasaayi on 19th August 2008 03:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
Is that the shankar mahadeven song? I like all songs except that one.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
"kadhal siluvayil"
is my fav song in trhe movie...hope its the fav of few others
hmmm
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From: raaja_rasigan on 19th August 2008 03:32 PM [Full View]
Who are the singers for "kangal irandal"?
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From: kutti_anand on 19th August 2008 04:39 PM [Full View]
I too like that song.... but my fav is kangal irandal.... 2nd place goes to theneeril snegitham and also to kadhal siluvayil.... Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
"kadhal siluvayil"
is my fav song in trhe movie...hope its the fav of few others
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From: omega on 19th August 2008 04:59 PM [Full View]
I think, this song has been picturised indeed, but found no place in the movie. Have seen this song being played in SUN TV (morning). This was the second best song for me in this movie after Kangal Irundhaal. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: omega on 19th August 2008 05:01 PM [Full View]
Belly Raj & Deepa Mariam............... (Belly Raj --> Thoppai Rajava??) Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
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From: omega on 19th August 2008 05:06 PM [Full View]
Probably this is what Vetrimaaran was requesting against (Sasikumar should try to stick behind the scenes) in Koffee with Anu program. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Some of you must have read this news...
Sasikumar has been signed in to do the lead role in the film titled "Nadodigal" which will be directed by Samudhrakani (Kanagu).
Pazhikku pazhi...
I definitely liked Kanagu's performance in the movie.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 19th August 2008 05:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by omega
Belly Raj & Deepa Mariam............... (Belly Raj --> Thoppai Rajava??) Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
i think this is the first song for these 2... may be James-ukku therinja singers-ah iruppanga!
Is Belly Raj different from Benny who sings for ARR?
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From: NOV on 19th August 2008 05:17 PM [Full View]
Deepa Mariam is a great singer and has won in many TV competitions.
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From: NOV on 19th August 2008 05:23 PM [Full View]
she has also sung in Naan Avan Illai... thEn kudicha niloavu, together with Naresh Iyer.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 19th August 2008 05:39 PM [Full View]
These days a lot of singers are there... so peru edhuvum sariya theriyaradhillai...
anyway, NOV, thanks for information
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From: MADDY on 19th August 2008 05:51 PM [Full View]
//disgr// courtesy:chennai mozart Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
These days a lot of singers are there... //end disgr//
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From: equanimus on 19th August 2008 05:59 PM [Full View]
I really liked a couple of songs in the album, and it's certainly a good album overall. But, the film, I think, is staggeringly overrated.
Sitting through the whole film, I never came to care about the characters. They came off as a bunch of neatly cut out cardboard pieces, doing the same thing over and over again. Fine, let's keep aside the endless montage with Azhagar and Thulasi. Take the mother who wails and wails, everytime she is in a scene with Azhagar. You don't even see her doing anything else. She wails -- Azhagar shouts -- Paraman interrupts and tells her everything will be alright. Or, even Somu. There are two separate scenes showing him screaming at his kids watching TV. And, the "explanation" for his outburst is painfully spelt out in both the scenes.
Sasikumar imagines his characters to be completely preoccupied with one particular thing blissfully unreceptive to anything else that's happening to their life. (I'm talking about the bunch of friends here.) Their motivations are vague and one-dimensional for the sort of things they do in the film. They are shown to have no misgivings about going to any extent to do what they want to do (like all Tamil film "heroes"). Self-preservation is an instinct that was not written into these characters. The response one gets in return to this criticism often rests squarely on broad stereotypes, and is steeped in codescension. "Oh, they [the characters] are like that, they are jobless, they don't think like you do" and so on. In sociocultural terms, if we take two starkly different places, there will be a lot of differences between them, in their respective sociopolitical systems etc. When a filmmaker worth his salt chooses to set his film in a certain milieu, he'd try to understand the characters (wherever they come from), not simply "other" them, and finally stage an all-too-agreeable comeuppance.
**Spoilers ahead.**
This is why we have Azhagar brooding on being slammed in the "cross" of love when he's arrested along with his friend Paraman for a murder. Of all things, at that moment, he's worried about his love for Thulasi. The main duo, Azhagar and Paraman are conveniently etched characters. When they're loyal, they're loyal. When they're grateful, they're grateful. When they're in love, they're in love. They put in all their faith. The audience is simply expected to take this innocence and codes of honour at face value. "Oh, did we just commit a murder?" "Well, remember? We are paying back our debt to Ravi?" If the aftermath conversation was something like this, I'd have appreciated.
This is why the film's main themes like visuvAsam, kAdhal, louu, trust and betrayal come off as jokes, the character never looking beyond these "codes." The "triviality" -- so to put -- of the love story amidst the larger scheme of things never surfaces in the film, even a wee bit. Sasikumar constantly frames the film within the narrative of a love-story-gone-wrong. The notion of "betrayal" here is the biggest stereotype with respect to love stories in our land. Here too, Azhagar shows a great deal of anxiety about his love, forever romanticising his trust on Thulasi, that she'll stand by him even if he's standing agaisnt her whole family and what not. It's a pity that Sasikumar reflects on nothing beyond this sort of silly romanticisation. Au contraire, he feeds his narrative to this very romanticisation, and attempts to stage a tragic finale that plays out like a scene from 'Devdas' that accidentally got mixed with the reels of 'Pudhupettai.' (It is supposed to shock the audience, but my reaction was quite close to how PR had described his, a few pages before.)
**Spoilers end.**
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From: littlemaster1982 on 19th August 2008 06:10 PM [Full View]
Why are you so concerned about my judgements and tastes??? Originally Posted by sarna_blr
:P which is great movie according to u Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I might have liked the film more, if I hadn't known the climax twists The movie is not great, just good IMO.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 19th August 2008 06:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
//disgr// courtesy:chennai mozart Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
These days a lot of singers are there... //end disgr//
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From: Corleone on 19th August 2008 06:27 PM [Full View]
I think in the last scene one policeman wud say that kasi was in the jail for murdering four ppl named kanagu, paraman, azhagar and thulasi.
This implies that thulasi was also killed.
Im sure abt the count (4) but not so sure abt the names.
Pls correct me if im wrong.
Originally Posted by Cinefan
Didn't see any scene of Paraman attacking Tulasi.If that scene was there don't understand why it was cut out. Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
If I read previous pages, some hubbers say that in trailer Sasikumar chases Thulasi to kill her (may be for Azhagar's death). If u consider that, Thulasi was killed, then we can take it as the revenge for his daughters murder. I guess, they cut those scenes to minimise the violence. Originally Posted by Cinefan
Oh!Revenge for his brother's murder? Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Yes, but I think this is done by the director to give some twist in the end Originally Posted by Cinefan
There is enough violence in the movie,editing out a scene will hardly make a difference.
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From: P_R on 19th August 2008 06:30 PM [Full View]
Good post equanimus. Particularly the point about "othering".
And thus 'fake' as against 'natural' - which is the adjective that is puzzlingly been associated with this movie. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: Nerd on 19th August 2008 07:30 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Why are you so concerned about my judgements and tastes??? Originally Posted by sarna_blr
:P which is great movie according to u Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I might have liked the film more, if I hadn't known the climax twists The movie is not great, just good IMO. ippollAm unga review-a review pannA romba tension aagureenga
Had a discussion with my friends and couple of them claimed that this is the biggest blockbuster ever in terms of money invested : returns. I said it has to be kAdhal with just 90L production cost
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From: sarna_blr on 19th August 2008 07:37 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Why are you so concerned about my judgements and tastes??? Originally Posted by sarna_blr
:P which is great movie according to u Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I might have liked the film more, if I hadn't known the climax twists The movie is not great, just good IMO. Why shouldnt I
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From: equanimus on 19th August 2008 07:55 PM [Full View]
Corleone, Originally Posted by Corleone
In the version that I saw at least, the policeman mentions 3 names. Azhagar, Paraman and Kanagu.
Of course, the fim's trailer had bits from a scene where Paraman is chasing Thulasi, closing with the moment when he traps her at a dead end in a sandhu or something. My guess is that Sasikumar had two versions in mind, and chose to go with the version with the Paraman-Thulasi episode cut. If he had kept that scene, it would have have been unabashedly misogynistic, the way I see it.
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From: Morning Glory on 19th August 2008 08:05 PM [Full View]
I am pretty sure that Thulasi's name was not mentioned in the end. I think that going on with the film's theme, killing off Thulasi would have been justified. The whole film revolved around the eye for and eye revenge concept, however, I don't think it would have gelled with the general audience. Just an observation. Originally Posted by Corleone
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From: P_R on 19th August 2008 08:06 PM [Full View]
"Done to death" was taken a little too literally in this film. So,for whatever it was worth, I felt relieved that what happened to ThuLasi is not fully shown/explained.
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 08:14 PM [Full View]
Just finished watching the movie
Intha padatha entha vagaiyila sekkuRathu ?
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From: jaiganes on 19th August 2008 08:41 PM [Full View]
neenga edhula venumnaalum saethukonga - unga school romba nalla schoolnu kaelvi pattom. LKG le saethukonga please..
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 08:46 PM [Full View]
Naan LKG ,UKG -llam padikkaleenga ..Kiramathula thamizh medium padichavan Originally Posted by jaiganes
neenga edhula venumnaalum saethukonga - unga school romba nalla schoolnu kaelvi pattom. LKG le saethukonga please..
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From: littlemaster1982 on 19th August 2008 08:49 PM [Full View]
I haven't reacted like this before. But this is getting too repetitive Originally Posted by Nerd
ippollAm unga review-a review pannA romba tension aagureenga
Had a discussion with my friends and couple of them claimed that this is the biggest blockbuster ever in terms of money invested : returns. I said it has to be kAdhal with just 90L production cost
I remember reading in Hindu that Kaadhal was made in 1.25 crores. Not sure about how much it collected
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From: jaiganes on 19th August 2008 09:07 PM [Full View]
OK OK. mannin maindharnu sollareeyala? Originally Posted by joe
Naan LKG ,UKG -llam padikkaleenga ..Kiramathula thamizh medium padichavan Originally Posted by jaiganes
neenga edhula venumnaalum saethukonga - unga school romba nalla schoolnu kaelvi pattom. LKG le saethukonga please..
naan neenga padicha schoolai sollalai - hub le neenga nadathum school pathi sonnaen!!!
Sivaji university VC neenga dhaane saar engalukku!!!
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From: Nerd on 19th August 2008 09:14 PM [Full View]
I have seen an interview of Shankar in which he mentioned the 90L thingi. May be he did not include the actor's remuneration Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I remember reading in Hindu that Kaadhal was made in 1.25 crores. Not sure about how much it collected It collected 15-20C I guess. Though subbu might end up collecting less than that, the investment < kAdhal.
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 09:20 PM [Full View]
மிகவும் வித்தியாசமான முயற்சி என்பதில் சந்தேகமில்லை
ஆனால் பருத்தி வீரன் அளவுக்கு இந்த படத்திற்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்ட முன்னோட்டங்கள் , கதைக்களனை அறிந்து கொள்வதை தவிர்த்து வந்தாலும் சாரு நிவேதிதா போன்றவர்கள் விமர்சனத்தின் தலைப்பிலேயே கதை முடிச்சை கோடிட்டு காட்டிய அபத்தம் போன்ற காரணங்களால் எதிர்பார்த்த விளைவை என்னுள் ஏற்படுத்தவில்லை .
தமிழ் திரைப்படச்சூழலில் இத்தகைய ஒரு மாறுபட்ட கதையை ,காட்சி அமைப்புகளை .அதுவும் தானே தாயாரித்து ,நடித்து தைரியமாக வெளியிட்ட இயக்குநர் சசிகுமார் நிச்சயம் பாராட்டப்பட வேண்டியவர்.
தமிழ் பட இலக்கணத்திலிருந்து முற்றிலும் மாறுபட்ட ,பிற்பாதியில் வன்முறை அதிகம் கொண்ட இந்த திரைப்படத்தை தமிழ் மக்கள் வணிக ரீதியில் வெற்றி பெற வைத்திருப்பது ஆச்சரியம் அளிக்கிறது .
இதில் கிடைத்த வெற்றி சசிகுமாருக்கு மேலும் வித்தியாசமான படைப்புகளை (முடிந்தவரை வன்முறையின் அளவைக் குறைத்து) தருவதற்கு உந்துதலாக அமையும் என நம்புகிறேன்.
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From: jaiganes on 19th August 2008 09:25 PM [Full View]
General point - vanmurai yaen thavirka pada vendum? Originally Posted by joe
மிகவும் வித்தியாசமான முயற்சி என்பதில் சந்தேகமில்லை
ஆனால் பருத்தி வீரன் அளவுக்கு இந்த படத்திற்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்ட முன்னோட்டங்கள் , கதைக்களனை அறிந்து கொள்வதை தவிர்த்து வந்தாலும் சாரு நிவேதிதா போன்றவர்கள் விமர்சனத்தின் தலைப்பிலேயே கதை முடிச்சை கோடிட்டு காட்டிய அபத்தம் போன்ற காரணங்களால் எதிர்பார்த்த விளைவை என்னுள் ஏற்படுத்தவில்லை .
தமிழ் திரைப்படச்சூழலில் இத்தகைய ஒரு மாறுபட்ட கதையை ,காட்சி அமைப்புகளை .அதுவும் தானே தாயாரித்து ,நடித்து தைரியமாக வெளியிட்ட இயக்குநர் சசிகுமார் நிச்சயம் பாராட்டப்பட வேண்டியவர்.
தமிழ் பட இலக்கணத்திலிருந்து முற்றிலும் மாறுபட்ட ,பிற்பாதியில் வன்முறை அதிகம் கொண்ட இந்த திரைப்படத்தை தமிழ் மக்கள் வணிக ரீதியில் வெற்றி பெற வைத்திருப்பது ஆச்சரியம் அளிக்கிறது .
இதில் கிடைத்த வெற்றி சசிகுமாருக்கு மேலும் வித்தியாசமான படைப்புகளை (முடிந்தவரை வன்முறையின் அளவைக் குறைத்து) தருவதற்கு உந்துதலாக அமையும் என நம்புகிறேன்.
vanmurai kuritha sarchaigalai vanmurai kalakaamal eppadi solla mudiyum.
kurudhippunal padathai sttu ratham illamal solli irukka mudiyuma?
indha padam - melliya idhayam kondavargal, kuzhandhaigal paarka thagundhadhu alla enbadhai censor certificate sollum boadhu yaen vanmurai kuraikka pada vendum?
Kalingathup paraniyai - kuzhandhaigal padippadharkaaga vanmurayai kuraithu kalingahu killai mozhi endru padhippithaal suvai irukkumo? idhu vayadhu vandhavargalukkaana padam - iyakkunar thondriyadhai solla naam ookuvikka vendum - iyandra varai.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 19th August 2008 09:30 PM [Full View]
Any idea about the budget of Subbu? Originally Posted by Nerd
I have seen an interview of Shankar in which he mentioned the 90L thingi. May be he did not include the actor's remuneration Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
I remember reading in Hindu that Kaadhal was made in 1.25 crores. Not sure about how much it collected It collected 15-20C I guess. Though subbu might end up collecting less than that, the investment < kAdhal.
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 09:31 PM [Full View]
jai,
முடிந்த அளவு வன்முறை குறைவாக இருந்தால் நல்லது என்பது என் தனிப்பட்ட வேண்டுகோள் ,விருப்பமே தவிர இயக்குநரை நான் நிர்ப்பந்திக்கும் விதத்தில் அல்ல .சசி குமாரின் கதை சொல்லும் முறை ,கதைக்களன் இயங்கும் இடம் பற்றிய பதிவு ஆகியவற்றின் நேர்த்தி என்னை கவர்ந்ததால் ,மேலும் வித்தியாசமான முயற்சிகளை ,வேறு விதமான கதைக்களனோடு தர வேண்டுமென விரும்புகிறேனே தவிர ,இந்த கதைக்கு வன்முறை அதிகம் என நான் சொல்லவில்லை.
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From: jaiganes on 19th August 2008 09:36 PM [Full View]
joe - OK DOK.
but have you read kalingathupparani?
kaali koolikku kooriyadhu padichirukeengala?
most violent portrayal of a battle scene aftermath in any forms of literature with a peculiar sense of morbid humour - We could take it in 11th or 12th century - but we have chickened out on seeing one dead body in a bala movie!!! Veerath thamizh-k- kulam!!!
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From: joe on 19th August 2008 09:41 PM [Full View]
Jai,
problem with me is ,though i don't ignore movies for violence ,i will have a second thought to revisit them .
Kuruthipunal ,paruthi veeran ,virumaandi ,pithamagan all are my favourites ,but except kuruthipunal i didn't revisit others .
Raw-va kuthuRathu ,ArukkuRathu ,vettuRathu varum pothu ennai aRiyaamaleye kannai pothikkuRen enna paNnurRathu
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From: VENKIRAJA on 19th August 2008 09:46 PM [Full View]
Charu?The drunken punk?What did he write about this?Any links?
Jeyamohan,S.Ramakrishnan usually voice views on such movies.Did they?
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From: Nerd on 19th August 2008 09:47 PM [Full View]
LM, no idea.. Somewhere around 75L I believe
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From: littlemaster1982 on 19th August 2008 09:50 PM [Full View]
Possilble. I was wondering how could a first time director produce his own film. I came to know that Director Sasikumar's uncle is the producer of 'Sethu'. Originally Posted by Nerd
LM, no idea.. Somewhere around 75L I believe
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From: abbydoss1969 on 21st August 2008 02:55 PM [Full View]
And why should all our serious filmmakers deal only with violence,the underworld,and the morbid: Originally Posted by joe
Jai,
problem with me is ,though i don't ignore movies for violence ,i will have a second thought to revisit them .
Kuruthipunal ,paruthi veeran ,virumaandi ,pithamagan all are my favourites ,but except kuruthipunal i didn't revisit others .
Raw-va kuthuRathu ,ArukkuRathu ,vettuRathu varum pothu ennai aRiyaamaleye kannai pothikkuRen enna paNnurRathu
Bala-----------morbid
Amir-----------violent
vetrimaran---underworld
tamil ram------psycho
Now this fellow.Can't good films be made on tender and sweet emotions.
I think it all started with Manirathnam.and ramgopal varma
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From: joe on 21st August 2008 02:58 PM [Full View]
Even i have the same question ..That is why I liked Anbesivam more than all these and watched it many times. Originally Posted by abbydoss1969
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 03:15 PM [Full View]
"Vanathai Pola" pidikkalaya Originally Posted by joe
Even i have the same question ..That is why I liked Anbesivam more than all these and watched it many times. Originally Posted by abbydoss1969
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From: joe on 21st August 2008 03:19 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
"Vanathai Pola" pidikkalaya Originally Posted by joe
Even i have the same question ..That is why I liked Anbesivam more than all these and watched it many times. Originally Posted by abbydoss1969
sweet emotions doesn't mean over sentiment
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From: directhit on 21st August 2008 03:21 PM [Full View]
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From: kutti_anand on 21st August 2008 03:24 PM [Full View]
Idhellam romba over...... Selvaraghavan gave Kadhal konden and then 7g.. Pudhupetai and then AMAV(yaradi nee mohini, telugu version).... u can tell if they stick to the same kind of film making in all their films..... Originally Posted by abbydoss1969
And why should all our serious filmmakers deal only with violence,the underworld,and the morbid: Originally Posted by joe
Jai,
problem with me is ,though i don't ignore movies for violence ,i will have a second thought to revisit them .
Kuruthipunal ,paruthi veeran ,virumaandi ,pithamagan all are my favourites ,but except kuruthipunal i didn't revisit others .
Raw-va kuthuRathu ,ArukkuRathu ,vettuRathu varum pothu ennai aRiyaamaleye kannai pothikkuRen enna paNnurRathu
Bala-----------morbid
Amir-----------violent
vetrimaran---underworld
tamil ram------psycho
Now this fellow.Can't good films be made on tender and sweet emotions.
I think it all started with Manirathnam.and ramgopal varma
Ellarume love, family pathi film edutha romba bore adichirum...... appappo indha maadhiri offbeat movies are required.....
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 03:32 PM [Full View]
love panni, duet padi, oru konjal kenjal irundhathan suveet emotion'ah..... yean amma, appa, annan, thangachi'na pidikkadha.. Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
"Vanathai Pola" pidikkalaya Originally Posted by joe
Even i have the same question ..That is why I liked Anbesivam more than all these and watched it many times. Originally Posted by abbydoss1969
sweet emotions doesn't mean over sentiment
appo seriousave kekkaraen...... Pasamalar over sentimentthane
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 03:32 PM [Full View]
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 03:39 PM [Full View]
kutti anand... I saw the trailer in Youtube.. Sasikumar chasing swathy in a kurukku sandhu
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From: joe on 21st August 2008 03:39 PM [Full View]
wow..I was really expecting this exact question Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
appo seriousave kekkaraen...... Pasamalar over sentimentthane
Comparing Paasamalar and Vaanathai pola ?
Paasamalar is not full of irritating sentiment.
Even for arguement's sake i agree 'Pasamalar' is just sentiment movie ..It is a trend setter .
பாசமலர் படம் பார்த்துட்டு யாரும் "இது கிழக்கு சீமையிலே வகையறா" -ன்னு சொல்லுறதில்ல . கிழக்கு சீமையிலே பார்த்தா "இது பாசமலர் வகையறா"- ன்னு சொல்லுவாங்க .
To be frank ,Vaanathai pola over sentiments didn't impressed me ,but Pasamalar did ..You may have different opinion ..Let us agree to disagree
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 03:47 PM [Full View]
for me too..... even I saw this film on release day matnee show (yedhechayaga nadanthathu).... utter flop aagumnu nenachaen Originally Posted by joe
but Family audience is great... nallavelai andha timela kovil thiruvizha ellam illai
parthu rombha naal aachu... rombha sentimental Sivaji-yai vida, kalakalappana, gambeeramana Sivaji-yaithan enakku pidikkum Originally Posted by joe
Let us agree to agree Originally Posted by joe
Let us agree to disagree
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From: kutti_anand on 21st August 2008 04:14 PM [Full View]
Whats ur opinion? Paraman should have killed thulasi or not? enna keta, had he killed her, the movie would have been complete and more convincing..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 04:19 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Whats ur opinion? Paraman should have killed thulasi or not? enna keta, had he killed her, the movie would have been complete and more convincing..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
ippadhaan puriyudhu, idhumaadhiri vanmurai niraindha niraya padangal edhukku varudhunnu
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 04:39 PM [Full View]
story point of view it is OK... but still Thulasi was made to do that / brainwashed by his Sithappa kanagu by creating sympathy for his elder brother.... so we cannot blame her for that... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Whats ur opinion? Paraman should have killed thulasi or not? enna keta, had he killed her, the movie would have been complete and more convincing..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
In Film's commercial point of view... heroine ippadi thudikka thudikka kollapattal.. makkal yetrukolvangalanu theriyala
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From: MrJudge on 21st August 2008 04:45 PM [Full View]
I heard from one of my friends that the movie had 'thulasi killing scene' on the opening day. Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Whats ur opinion? Paraman should have killed thulasi or not? enna keta, had he killed her, the movie would have been complete and more convincing..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 04:50 PM [Full View]
neenga paruthiveeran paakkalayO Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
its a BLOCKBUSTER movie
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From: kutti_anand on 21st August 2008 05:01 PM [Full View]
In fact, thulasi knows that Azhagar was cheated by Her chittappa.... Apdi irundhum if she has done like that, adhu mannika mudiyatha kutram. Ur second point is correct. Makkal yetrukolvangala nu therila. Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
story point of view it is OK... but still Thulasi was made to do that / brainwashed by his Sithappa kanagu by creating sympathy for his elder brother.... so we cannot blame her for that... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
Whats ur opinion? Paraman should have killed thulasi or not? enna keta, had he killed her, the movie would have been complete and more convincing..... Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
In Film's commercial point of view... heroine ippadi thudikka thudikka kollapattal.. makkal yetrukolvangalanu theriyala
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 05:18 PM [Full View]
parthaen... but general'ah yetrukollamattargal enbadhu en aviprayam Originally Posted by sarna_blr
neenga paruthiveeran paakkalayO Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
its a BLOCKBUSTER movie
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 05:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
parthaen... but general'ah yetrukollamattargal enbadhu en aviprayam Originally Posted by sarna_blr
neenga paruthiveeran paakkalayO Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
its a BLOCKBUSTER movie
PS... enna ivlO polite'aa answer panreenga
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 06:02 PM [Full View]
idam porul evalnu onnu irukkulla
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 06:19 PM [Full View]
dign
Does it have a tragic end?
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From: NOV on 21st August 2008 06:26 PM [Full View]
sort of.... but there's more... sweet revenge. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Does it have a tragic end?
If the girl had been killed, SuPu would become an ordinary tamil film....
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 06:34 PM [Full View]
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
I could not digest 'paruthi-veeran' and REPENTED watching the movie. It had it too strong on me, and I actually felt very repulsive towards the end
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From: NOV on 21st August 2008 06:34 PM [Full View]
yes SP. SuPu is very much a guys movie and the violence is very violent.
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From: MrJudge on 21st August 2008 06:58 PM [Full View]
Not recommended for you. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
I could not digest 'paruthi-veeran' and REPENTED watching the movie. It had it too strong on me, and I actually felt very repulsive towards the end
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 06:59 PM [Full View]
sEval'a vittutteenga Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
idam porul evalnu onnu irukkulla
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From: kutti_anand on 21st August 2008 07:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
sort of.... but there's more... sweet revenge. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Does it have a tragic end?
If the girl had been killed, SuPu would become an ordinary tamil film....
Padathula enaku oru koraya therinjathey adhu onnu thaan....
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 07:32 PM [Full View]
aamam SP. idhellam periyavanga paarka vendiya padam!! Originally Posted by MrJudge
Not recommended for you. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
I could not digest 'paruthi-veeran' and REPENTED watching the movie. It had it too strong on me, and I actually felt very repulsive towards the end )
Jokes apart - vikrmana' bedsheet dhoosi thatti abbydoss kaagavum, SP kkaagavum suda suda oru padam thayaarikka sollanum
RB CHOUDHARY: Oru sentiment - lalalala padam parcel
Supplier: Vikraman oorla illengov.
RBC: Adada!! sari. pakkathula perarasu canteenlendhu sentiment vaangiyaanduru, namma pudhu pasangala vechu pombalaingaLa azha vuttu padam eduthuru - seekiram...
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From: NOV on 21st August 2008 07:37 PM [Full View]
I am tired of all the nonsense of you reap-what-you-sow kind of stories. In real life this never happens... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: sarna_blr on 21st August 2008 07:48 PM [Full View]
Its like yesturdays newspaper is todays waste paper and never forget todays newspaper will become tomorrows wastepaper Originally Posted by jaiganes
Vikramana innikku neenga kindal pannalaam, innikku neenga pughazhndhu thallura aalungala naalaikku var'ra thalaimurai naaru naaraa kizhikkapOgudhu
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From: Morning Glory on 21st August 2008 08:23 PM [Full View]
Idk SP, you might like it more than PV because although it is violent it wasn't as alarming like the climax of PV (esp the Muthuazhagu incidenct Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
I could not digest 'paruthi-veeran' and REPENTED watching the movie. It had it too strong on me, and I actually felt very repulsive towards the end ) The bad characters pretty much all get their revenge except what's her face, Thulasi, but u kinda won't like her from the beginning so when she does what she does, you're like "See I knew it, what a conniving backstabber".
I would say the Subramaniyapuram is much lighter (as in the comedy, love, etc) than PV up until maybe half and a hour til the end.
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 08:47 PM [Full View]
sarna_blr - Aiyyoyo naan vikramanai kindal pannave illai!! Originally Posted by sarna_blr
Its like yesturdays newspaper is todays waste paper and never forget todays newspaper will become tomorrows wastepaper Originally Posted by jaiganes
Vikramana innikku neenga kindal pannalaam, innikku neenga pughazhndhu thallura aalungala naalaikku var'ra thalaimurai naaru naaraa kizhikkapOgudhu
RBC vikraman padam eppadi order pannaraangannu sonnaen - oru joke oda.
I liked his 'naan paesa ninaippadhellaam' - anand babu starrer - that was moulded into 'unnidaththil ennai koduthaen' later by him.
naan avarai waste papernu sollavillai - just a bit repetitive as far as theme and certain scene composition goes =- avvalavu dhaan.
Naan inniku pugazhara film maker - ore oru aalu dhaan - adhu baala. He will forever remain an enigma for this generation or next generation and I dont think he will ever become a trend setter or darling of movie goers. In that respect - i guess people will never get him - he is beyond all the people who watch his movies - for he remains fiercely original and individual never the one that goes out to prove versatility or demonstrate craft .
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From: kutti_anand on 21st August 2008 08:48 PM [Full View]
If he killed her it cant be reap what you sow kind of story..... Just pazhi-ku pazhi vaangrathu.... whatever.... Originally Posted by NOV
I am tired of all the nonsense of you reap-what-you-sow kind of stories. In real life this never happens... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 08:53 PM [Full View]
ungala central jailla dhaan podanum NOV (just to see if this thing really happens or not he he he he Originally Posted by NOV
I am tired of all the nonsense of you reap-what-you-sow kind of stories. In real life this never happens... Originally Posted by kutti_anand
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 08:57 PM [Full View]
ah!... that throws more light Originally Posted by Morning Glory
Idk SP, you might like it more than PV because although it is violent it wasn't as alarming like the climax of PV (esp the Muthuazhagu incidenct Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
I could not digest 'paruthi-veeran' and REPENTED watching the movie. It had it too strong on me, and I actually felt very repulsive towards the end ) The bad characters pretty much all get their revenge except what's her face, Thulasi, but u kinda won't like her from the beginning so when she does what she does, you're like "See I knew it, what a conniving backstabber".
I would say the Subramaniyapuram is much lighter (as in the comedy, love, etc) than PV up until maybe half and a hour til the end.
I shall venture may be again kolly, its depends on what one considers violent. For a woman, PV was really convulsing and painfu than any bloodshed!
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:04 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
aamam SP. idhellam periyavanga paarka vendiya padam!! )
Jokes apart - vikrmana' bedsheet dhoosi thatti abbydoss kaagavum, SP kkaagavum suda suda oru padam thayaarikka sollanum
RB CHOUDHARY: Oru sentiment - lalalala padam parcel
Supplier: Vikraman oorla illengov.
RBC: Adada!! sari. pakkathula perarasu canteenlendhu sentiment vaangiyaanduru, namma pudhu pasangala vechu pombalaingaLa azha vuttu padam eduthuru - seekiram... btw, I aint for perarasu kinda masala movies :insulting: I like sensible movies with not much shouting and violence. To be more precise, I love mahendran, balumahendra, kb type of movies! :grrrrr: I love ART movies and any movie to reach out practically to the crowd need not be repulsive or violent
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From: P_R on 21st August 2008 09:05 PM [Full View]
Yes. Do stay away. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
ரத்தம் வர வர அறுத்திருக்காங்க :P
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:06 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yes. Do stay away. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I supp its not MY KINDA movie
ரத்தம் வர வர அறுத்திருக்காங்க :P
naan padam parkalai. kodi rubaai kuduthaalum parka porathillai
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 09:06 PM [Full View]
appo SP padam paarthu romba naalaachunnu sollunga. ippollaam aruvaalukku poojai poattapparam dhaan cameravaye edukuraanga.
unga paadu inimel kashtam dhaan!!!
As far as PV violence is concerned - It was more painful for a man to see - trust me!!
and that pain and guilt is what was intended to be triggered in a man's mind.
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From: joe on 21st August 2008 09:08 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
my view too.
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:09 PM [Full View]
yeah jai, I am not finding many movies of present days intersting enough to catch my attention.
I liked autograph and thavamaay thavamirunthu recently (if thats recent enough )
PV is more painful for a man?! Well, I can talk from a woman's point of view. IT was TOO MUCH to gulp down. And all that dance and song in the name of comedy (aligaL aadirpaanga) was of bad taste
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 09:10 PM [Full View]
offcourse you can't label this as a men's only movie too - The stupid girl never should have loved that village thug- I have seen girls - well educated who eloped with street rogues only to get their lives spoiled .
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 09:26 PM [Full View]
SP... ungala madhiri aalungalukuthan marupadiyum "puratchi kalaignar + Vikraman = Mariyadhai" seyya poranga.... yean kavalai padureenga... Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
yeah jai, I am not finding many movies of present days intersting enough to catch my attention.
I liked autograph and thavamaay thavamirunthu recently (if thats recent enough )
PV is more painful for a man?! Well, I can talk from a woman's point of view. IT was TOO MUCH to gulp down. And all that dance and song in the name of comedy (aligaL aadirpaanga) was of bad taste
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:29 PM [Full View]
dign
I aint too fond of vijayakant
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From: jaiganes on 21st August 2008 09:33 PM [Full View]
sari yaarai vechu vikraman padam edutha neenga paappeenga?
seekkiram sollunga!!!
en thalai vedichudum bola irukku!!!
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:36 PM [Full View]
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
I would love to see sathyaraj too. Vikraman movies are good, though not ultimate
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From: Wibha on 21st August 2008 09:38 PM [Full View]
u forgot madhavan Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
I would love to see sathyaraj too. Vikraman movies are good, though not ultimate
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:39 PM [Full View]
Maddy is more for romance or sharp stories than day to day sentiments! I would wanna see him in some thriller sometimes
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 21st August 2008 09:39 PM [Full View]
ennai intha thread vittu adichu velila thoratha poraanga!
/ dign
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From: raaja_rasigan on 21st August 2008 09:40 PM [Full View]
Piriyamana thozhi........ vikramanukku 7 1/2 aarambichadhe andha padathula irundhuthan Originally Posted by Wibha
u forgot madhavan Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
I would love to see sathyaraj too. Vikraman movies are good, though not ultimate
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From: Wibha on 21st August 2008 09:42 PM [Full View]
priyamana thozhi was a kinda nice movie although maddy's dressing really sucked.......................wonder y ppl didnt like it Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Piriyamana thozhi........ vikramanukku 7 1/2 aarambichadhe andha padathula irundhuthan Originally Posted by Wibha
u forgot madhavan Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
I would love to see sathyaraj too. Vikraman movies are good, though not ultimate adhuku maddy-ai ean kutham solreal
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From: aditya_sub on 21st August 2008 11:26 PM [Full View]
Saw this movie today... kinda average movie...first half was ok with nice songs. 2nd half the climax was good, but otherwise not worth of the hype created.
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From: kutti_anand on 22nd August 2008 01:22 AM [Full View]
Aiyyayo.... Vikraman movies will have Originally Posted by Wibha
priyamana thozhi was a kinda nice movie although maddy's dressing really sucked.......................wonder y ppl didnt like it Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Piriyamana thozhi........ vikramanukku 7 1/2 aarambichadhe andha padathula irundhuthan Originally Posted by Wibha
u forgot madhavan Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
I would love to see sathyaraj too. Vikraman movies are good, though not ultimate adhuku maddy-ai ean kutham solreal
1. SA Rajkumar music
2. Laa la Humming
3. Comedy a.k.a mokkai
4. Climax la hero thyagam seyyarathu
5. Comedy scenes la oru music uduvaaru paarunga.... Chance-a illa....
6. Hero oru lecture kudupaaru.....
To me, Vikraman's good movie was Poove unakkaga.... even though it had the usual vikraman elements, the movie was different at that time....
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From: sarna_blr on 22nd August 2008 09:20 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
sarna_blr - Aiyyoyo naan vikramanai kindal pannave illai!! Originally Posted by sarna_blr
Its like yesturdays newspaper is todays waste paper and never forget todays newspaper will become tomorrows wastepaper Originally Posted by jaiganes
Vikramana innikku neenga kindal pannalaam, innikku neenga pughazhndhu thallura aalungala naalaikku var'ra thalaimurai naaru naaraa kizhikkapOgudhu
RBC vikraman padam eppadi order pannaraangannu sonnaen - oru joke oda.
I liked his 'naan paesa ninaippadhellaam' - anand babu starrer - that was moulded into 'unnidaththil ennai koduthaen' later by him.
naan avarai waste papernu sollavillai - just a bit repetitive as far as theme and certain scene composition goes =- avvalavu dhaan.
Naan inniku pugazhara film maker - ore oru aalu dhaan - adhu baala. He will forever remain an enigma for this generation or next generation and I dont think he will ever become a trend setter or darling of movie goers. In that respect - i guess people will never get him - he is beyond all the people who watch his movies - for he remains fiercely original and individual never the one that goes out to prove versatility or demonstrate craft .
edhukku indha thankyou'nu paakkureengalaa ??? personal abuse pannaadhadhukku ippa ellaam adhu hub'la fashion aayiduchchu
and here I respect ur views
and ur signature
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From: sarna_blr on 22nd August 2008 10:17 AM [Full View]
neenga Chennai kaadhal paaththadhu illayaa Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
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From: MrJudge on 22nd August 2008 10:34 AM [Full View]
decent-a poitturuntha bharath graph indecent aanathe antha padam naala thaan... Originally Posted by sarna_blr
neenga Chennai kaadhal paaththadhu illayaa Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
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From: sarna_blr on 22nd August 2008 10:36 AM [Full View]
ofcourse Originally Posted by MrJudge
decent-a poitturuntha bharath graph indecent aanathe antha padam naala thaan... Originally Posted by sarna_blr
neenga Chennai kaadhal paaththadhu illayaa Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
may be bharath or jeeva (present heros)
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From: MrJudge on 22nd August 2008 10:38 AM [Full View]
Shakthipraba,
Konjam porunga, unga type padam 'Poo' onnu varuthu decent-a irukkumnu nenaikkiren.
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 22nd August 2008 10:53 AM [Full View]
judge
I also wanna watch kalaignar's "uliyin osai".
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From: raaja_rasigan on 22nd August 2008 11:41 AM [Full View]
wait until Deppavali.. they will telecast in kalaignar TV saying that mega Hit thiraippadam Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
judge
I also wanna watch kalaignar's "uliyin osai".
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From: joe on 22nd August 2008 11:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
wait until Deppavali.. they will telecast in kalaignar TV saying that mega Hit thiraippadam Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
judge
I also wanna watch kalaignar's "uliyin osai".
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From: MrJudge on 22nd August 2008 11:59 AM [Full View]
Me too...but keep postponing it. Theater-la thaniyaa paakka bayamaa irukku. Soon just as raaja-rasiggan said it will be on Kalaignar tv. Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
judge
I also wanna watch kalaignar's "uliyin osai".
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From: omega on 25th August 2008 04:42 PM [Full View]
Article from latest KUMUDAM REPORTER about tamil films performances so far in 2008...
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கோடம்பாக்கம் குதிரைப் பந்தயத்தில் இந்த ஆண்டு இதுவரை ஓடிய குதிரைகளின் எண்ணிக்கை 77. இவற்றில் குப்புறக் கவிழ்ந்த குதிரைகளின் எண்ணிக்கை எவ்வளவு தெரியுமா? சொன்னால் நம்ப மாட்டீர்கள். 76! `ஒண்ணே ஒண்ணு கண்ணே கண்ணு' என்று இயல்பாக ஓடி வெற்றிக்கோட்டைத் தொட்டிருக்கிற ஒரே குதிரை `சுப்ரமணியபுரம்'!
சுமார் மூன்றரைக் கோடி ரூபாயில் உருவான `சுப்ரமணியபுரம்' படம், பதினாறு கோடி வரை வருவாயை ஈட்டும் என்பது கிட்டத்தட்ட உறுதியாகிவிட்ட நிலையில், மற்ற படங்களின் `நெட் ரிசல்ட்` ஏறத்தாழ `பணால்' தான்.
அஞ்சாதே, யாரடி நீ மோகினி, சந்தோஷ் சுப்பிரமணியம் போன்ற படங்கள் வசூல் ரீதியாக வெற்றிப் படங்கள் என்று சொல்லப்பட்டாலும், இவை ஓடின என்பதைவிட `தம்' கட்டி `ஓட்டப்பட்டன' என்பதே உண்மை. `தசாவதாரம்' விதிவிலக்கு!
கோலிவுட் குதிரைகள் இப்படி வரிசையாக ஓடி குப்புறக் கவிழ என்ன தான் காரணங்கள்? ஒவ்வொன்றாக சொல்லத் தொடங்கலாமே!
தற்போதுள்ள கோலிவுட் இயக்குநர்களில் பலர் ஐம்பது கோடி, நூறு கோடி என பெரிய பட்ஜெட்டில் படம் எடுத்து இமேஜை `பில்டப்' செய்வதில் ஆலாய்ப் பறக்கிறார்களே தவிர, இப்படிப் பெரிய பட்ஜெட் படம் பண்ணுவதில் காட்டும் ஆர்வத்தில் பாதியைக் கூட இவர்கள் கதையில் காட்டுவதில்லை.
அடுத்ததாக ஹீரோக்கள். இவர்களுக்கு இயக்குநர்கள் எவ்வளவுதான் அற்புதமான கதையைச் சொன்னாலும், அதை ஒரு காதில் வாங்கி மற்றொன்றில் விட்டு விட்டு, கதையில் தலையிட்டு அதை ஒன்றுமில்லாமல் உருக்குலைத்து விடுகிறார்கள்.
முடிவில் படத்தின் கதை, இயக்குநரின் கதையாகவும் இல்லாமல், ஹீரோவின் கதையாகவும் இல்லாமல் சிரிப்பாகச் சிரித்து விடுகிறது.
இதற்கிடையில், புதிதாக படவுலகில் நுழைந்துள்ள கார்ப்பரேட் நிறுவனங்கள். பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா, ஐங்கரன் மூவிஸ், மோசர் பியர் போன்ற மெகா நிறுவனங்கள் பிரமாண்டம், விளம்பரம் போன்றவற்றில்தான் மெனக்கெடுகிறார்களே தவிர, இவர்களும்கூட படத்தின் கதை விஷயத்தில் அவ்வளவாக ஆர்வம் காட்டுவதில்லை. டீ குடிப்பதற்குக் கூட போர்டு மீட்டிங் போட்டு முடிவெடுக்கிறார்கள் என்று கிண்டலடிக்கப்படும் இது போன்ற நிறுவனங்கள், கதை என்று ஒன்று இருப்பதையே கண்டுகொள்வதில்லை. பெரிய நடிகர்களை தாஜா செய்து, அவர்களைப் படத்தில் நடிக்க வைப்பதில் மட்டுமே ஆர்வம் காட்டும் இவர்கள், அந்த ஆர்வத்தில் பாதியைக் கூட கதையில் காட்டுவதில்லை. ஒருவேளை அக்கறை காட்டியிருந்தால், இந்த ஆண்டு பல வெற்றிப்படங்கள் பரிமளித்திருக்கும்.
ஒரு காலத்தில் திரைப்படங்கள் முழுமையாக எடுத்து முடிந்த பிறகுதான் விநியோகிப்பதற்கான வியாபாரமே ஆரம்பிக்கும். விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் படத்தின் முதல் பிரதியைப் பார்த்து விட்டுத்தான் படத்தின் தராதரத்தைப் பொறுத்து ரேட் பேசுவார்கள். படியும் பேரத்துக்குப் படத்தை வாங்கி விநியோகிப்பார்கள்.
இப்போதோ பூஜை போட்டவுடனே படம் விற்றுப் போகிறது. படப்பிடிப்பு தொடங்குமுன்பே, அந்தப் படம் நூறு நாள் ஓடும் என்று அவர்களாகவே நம்பி வாங்கும் விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் தலையில் பெரும்பாலான நேரங்களில் துண்டுதான். அப்படியே நல்ல ஆனால், சிறிய பட்ஜெட் படங்கள் திரைக்கு வரத் தயாரானாலும் கார்ப்பரேட் நிறுவனங்களின் புண்ணியத்தில் அந்தப் படங்களுக்கு தியேட்டர் கிடைப்பதில்லை.
`சுப்ரமணியபுரம்' படத்தை ரிலீஸ் செய்ய தியேட்டர் கொடுக்க மறுத்த முன்னணி திரையரங்கங்கள்கூட, அது ஓடும் விதத்தைப் பார்த்த பிறகு தாங்களாக முன்வந்து தியேட்டர் தந்ததும் கூட நடந்திருக்கிறது. ஆனால், `குருவி' தொடங்கி `சத்யம்' போன்ற படங்களையெல்லாம் நீ முந்தி, நான் முந்தி என்று போட்டி போட்டு சென்னையிலுள்ள பிரபலமான தியேட்டர்கள் வலியப்போய் வாங்கி வெளியிட்டு கையைச் சுட்டுக் கொள்வதும் நடந்து கொண்டுதானிருக்கிறது.
விஜய், த்ரிஷா, தரணி, உதயநிதி ஸ்டாலின் என்ற வலுவான கூட்டணியில் உருவான `குருவி'க்கு ஏகமான பப்ளிசிட்டி, எதிர்பார்ப்பு, வியாபாரம். ஆனால் கூட்டிலிருந்து வெளியே வந்தபோது `குருவி' பறக்க ரொம்பவுமே சிரமப்பட்டது.
அடுத்து `குசேலன்' கொடுத்த `பில்ட் - அப்'க்கும் படத்துக்கும் சம்பந்தமேயில்லை. ரசிகர்கள் இரக்கமே இல்லாமல் விமர்சனம் செய்து ஒதுக்கி வைத்துவிட்டார்கள். விநியோகஸ்தர்களோ நஷ்டத்தைச் சரிக்கட்டுங்கள் என்று படையெடுத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள்.
இந்த வரிசையில் அண்மையில் வெளிவந்த `சத்யம்' படத்துக்கு ஏகப்பட்ட விளம்பரம். நிஜமான போலீஸ் அதிகாரி ஒருவர் ஷூட்டிங் ஸ்பாட்டுக்கே போய் அட்வைஸ் செய்து எடுக்கப்பட்டும், படம் பப்படமாகக் காரணம் நாயகனின் அதிகபட்ச தலையீடுதான் என்று இப்போது முணுமுணுக்கிறார்கள். இந்தப் படத்தின் `ப்ரிவியூ' நடந்து கொண்டிருந்தபோதே, `கடவுளே, காப்பாற்று,' `தாங்க முடியலை சாமி' என்று நண்பர்களுக்கு எஸ்.எம்.எஸ்.கள் பறந்தன என்றால் பார்த்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள்.
இதேநிலைமை அடுத்தடுத்த வெற்றிப்படங்களைக் கொடுத்த நடிகர் பரத்துக்கும் தொடர்ந்து மூன்று படங்கள் ஊற்றிக்கொண்டன. பட்டப்பெயர் வைத்துக்கொள்வதிலும், பஞ்ச் டயலாக் பேசுவதிலும் காட்டிய ஆர்வத்தைக் கதையில் அவர் காட்டவில்லை என்பதுதான் அடுத்தடுத்து ஏற்பட்ட தோல்விகளுக்குக் காரணம் என்கிறார்கள்.
ஆனாலும் இன்னமும் இவர்களைத் தேடி கால்ஷீட் கேட்டு கோடிக்கணக்கில் அட்வான்ஸ் கொடுக்க தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் தயாராகவே இருக்கிறார்கள். ஹீரோக்கள்தான் மட்டுமின்றி காமெடியனின் கால்ஷீட்டுக்கும் சேர்த்துத் தவமிருக்கும் போக்கு இப்போதும் நீடிக்கிறது.
பெயர்களை மட்டும் நம்பி குதிரை மேல் பணத்தைக் கட்டிவிட்டு ஓடாதபோது பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக்கொடு என்று கேட்கும் கலாசாரமும் கோலிவுட்டில் இப்போது அதிகமாக வளரத் தொடங்கியுள்ளது. இதன் தொடக்கமாக ரஜினியின் `பாபா' படத்தைத்தான் சொல்ல வேண்டும். இந்தப் படத்தால் விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் ஏகமாகக் கையைச் சுட்டுக்கொண்ட நிலையில், ரஜினி ஒரு தொகையைத் திருப்பித் தந்து ஆரம்பித்து வைத்தார். விஜய் நடித்த `ஆதி' படம் திரைக்கு வர வெறும் ஒன்றரை நாள் தாமதமானதால் விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் கொதித்துப்போய் விஜய்யின் `போக்கிரி' படத்துக்கு ஒத்துழைப்பு தர மறுத்ததும், விஜய் தரப்பினர் அதற்கு இழப்பீடு தந்ததும் தனிக்கதை.
கோலிவுட் படங்களின் தொடர் தோல்வி குறித்தும், படம் நஷ்டமானால் பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கேட்கும் கலாசாரம் பற்றியும் நாம் சினிமா முக்கியஸ்தர்கள் பலரிடம் பேச முயன்றோம். ``வேண்டாம். கருத்துச் சொன்னால் சிக்கல்'' என்று பலர் கழன்றுகொள்ள, ஒருசிலர் மட்டுமே பேச முன்வந்தனர்.
அபிராமி ராமநாதன் அவரது கருத்தைப் இப்படிப் பதிவு செய்தார் :
``முப்பத்திரண்டு ஆண்டுகாலமாக சினிமா தொழிலில் இருக்கிறேன். ரசிகர்கள் எதை விரும்புகிறார்கள் என்று யோசிப்பதைவிட, ரசிகர்கள் விரும்புகிற மாதிரி படங்களை இயக்குநர்களும், தயாரிப்பாளர்களும் உருவாக்கினால் நல்லது. இப்போதெல்லாம் இயக்குநர்களை விட ரசிகர்கள் புத்திசாலிகளாக இருக்கிறார்கள். ஃபிரேம் பை ஃபிரேமாக படத்தை அலசுகிறார்கள். அது மட்டுமல்ல, முன்பெல்லாம் படம் ரிலீஸாகி ஓரிருநாள் கழித்துதான் அதுபற்றிய விமர்சனம் வெளியில் மெதுவாகப் பரவும். இப்போது படம் பார்த்துக் கொண்டிருக்கும்போதே படம் பற்றி எஸ்.எம்.எஸ். மூலம் ரசிகர்கள் தகவலை அனுப்பி விடுகிறார்கள். ரசிகர்கள் எதை விரும்புகிறார்கள் என்பதுதான் இந்த நிமிடம் வரை எனக்குத் தெரியவில்லை'' என்றார் ராமநாதன்.
சென்னை செங்கல்பட்டு விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் சங்கத் தலைவரும், இயக்குநரும், தயாரிப்பாளருமான கலைப்புலி சேகரன் :
``பல கஷ்டங்கள், எதிர்ப்புகள், போராட்டங்களைத் தாண்டித்தான் படங்கள் உருவாகி வெளிவருகின்றன. ஒரு படம் வியாபார ரீதியாக வெற்றியடைவதும், தோல்வியைத் தழுவுவதும் ரசிகர்களின் கையில்தான் இருக்கிறது. விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் வீடு, நிலத்தை அடமானம் வைத்து படத்தை வாங்கி விநியோகிக்கிறார்கள். அப்படியான நிலையில் படம் நஷ்டமாகும் போது பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கேட்கவும் செய்கிறார்கள். இது சரியா? தப்பா? என்ற விவாதத்துக்குள் போக நான் தயாரில்லை'' என்றார் அவர்.
படத் திறனாய்வாளரும், மூத்த பத்திரிகையாளருமான ஃபிலிம்நியூஸ் ஆனந்தனிடம் பேசினோம்.
``விநியோகஸ்தர்களுக்குப் பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுக்கும் கலாசாரம் `மன்னன்' படத்திலேயே ஆரம்பித்து விட்டது. அந்தப் படம் `சவாலே சமாளி' படத்தைப் போல இருப்பதாக விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் புகார் செய்ததால், படத் தயாரிப்பாளர்களான பிரபுவும், ராம்குமாரும் விநியோகஸ்தர்களிடம் வாங்கிய எக்ஸ்ட்ரா பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கொடுத்தனர். இரண்டே நாளில் தேக்கம் நீங்கி `மன்னன்' படம் சூடுபிடித்து நன்றாக ஓடத் தொடங்கிய போது இந்த விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் யாரும் தாங்கள் வாங்கிய பணத்தைத் திருப்பித் தரவில்லை.
பழைய காலத்தில் மாடர்ன் தியேட்டர்ஸ் நிறுவனம் கூட விநியோகஸ்தர்களுக்கு இப்படி பணத்தின் ஒரு பகுதியைத் திருப்பித் தந்திருக்கிறது. ஆனால், `பாபா' படத்துக்குப் பிறகுதான் இது வெளி உலகுக்குத் தெரிய வந்தது.
இயக்குநர் எஸ்.ஏ.சந்திரசேகரிடமும் இதுபற்றி கருத்துக் கேட்டோம். ``ஒவ்வொரு இயக்குநரும் வெற்றிப்படம் தரவேண்டும் என்ற எண்ணத்தில்தான் உயிரைக் கொடுத்து படங்களை உருவாக்குகிறார்கள். இப்படி உருவாக்கப்படுவதில் சில படங்களை விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் அபரிமித பணம் கொடுத்து வாங்குவது தப்பு. `குசேலன் படத்தில் எனது பங்கு 25 சதவிகிதம்தான்' என்று ரஜினி தெளிவாகத் தெரிவித்துவிட்ட பிறகும், அதை முழுநீள ரஜினி பட ரேஞ்சில் விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் வாங்கி விட்டு இப்போது நஷ்டம் என்று கூறி பணத்தைத் திருப்பிக் கேட்பது வியாபார தர்மமே இல்லை'' என முடித்துக் கொண்டார் அவர்.
இந்தப் பிரச்னை குறித்து தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் தரப்பில் சிலரிடம் கருத்துக் கேட்டோம்.
``முன்பெல்லாம் ஒரு படம் என்ன பட்ஜெட்டில் தயாராகும்? எப்போது ரிலீஸ் ஆகும்? என்பதையெல்லாம் முடிவு செய்துதான் படப்பிடிப்பையே தொடங்குவார்கள். அந்தக் காலத்திலிருந்து பூஜை போடும்போதே படம் எப்போது ரிலீஸாகும் என்பதை அறிவித்துவிடும் ஏ.வி.எம். நிறுவனம் கூட, அவர்களின் `சிவாஜி', `அயன்' படங்களின் ரிலீஸ் தேதி, பட்ஜெட் பற்றித் தீர்மானிக்க முடியவில்லை.
ரிலீஸ் தேதியை முடிவு செய்ய முடியாமல் போவதற்கு சில நேரங்களில் ஹீரோக்களின் தலையீடும் காரணம். ஆனால், அதனால் ஏற்படும் பாதிப்பு தயாரிப்பாளர்கள், விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் தலையில்தான் விடிகிறது.
அதே சமயம் இப்போதுள்ள பல இயக்குநர்களுக்கு ஓரிரு படங்களை வெற்றிப்படங்களாகத் தந்து வாழ்க்கையில் செட்டில் ஆகி விடும் எண்ணம்தான் இருக்கிறது. சினிமாவுக்கு நிரந்தர சேவையாற்றும் எண்ணம் பெரும்பாலானோருக்கு இல்லை. அதுபோல ஹீரோக்களும் வியாபார ரீதியாக 5 அல்லது 6 வெற்றிப்படங்களைத் தந்து விட்டால், அதன்பின் வருடத்துக்கு ஒன்று அல்லது இரண்டு படங்களில்தான் நடிக்கிறார்கள். இப்போது விஜய்யிடம் கால்ஷீட் கேட்டால் மூன்று வருடம் கழித்துதான் கால்ஷீட் கிடைக்கும். நடிகர் மாதவனிடம் கால்ஷீட் கேட்டால் அவர் நடிக்கும் ஐந்து படங்கள் முடிந்த பிறகுதான் தேதி கிடைக்கும் நிலை.
பெரிய ஹீரோக்களுக்காக கதை தயாரித்து வைத்திருக்கும் இளம் இயக்குநர்கள், அவர்களது கால்ஷீட் இப்போதைக்குக் கிடைக்காது என்ற நிலையில் கைவசமுள்ள கதை திருட்டுப் போய்விடுமோ? ஆறிப் போய்விடுமோ? என்று பயந்த நிலையில் உள்ளனர். இந்தநிலையில் பெரிய ஹீரோக்கள் நடிக்கும் படங்களும் அடிக்கடி ஊற்றிக்கொள்வதால் கோலிவுட் குழப்பத்தில் உள்ளது. இந்த நிலை எல்லாம் எப்போது மாறுமோ தெரியவில்லை?'' என்று முடித்துக்கொண்டனர் அவர்கள்.
திரைத்துறை வணிகம் எப்போதுமே சூதாட்டம் தான். அது அபத்தமான ஆட்டமாகி இப்போது அழுகுணி ஆட்டமாகவும் மாறிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது. ஒவ்வொரு சினிமாவும் ஒரு பாடத்தைக் கற்றுக் கொடுக்கிறது, கற்றுக் கொள்ளத்தான் யாரும் இல்லை போல. ஸீ
ஆட்டம் போடும் அம்மணிகள்!
இப்போது இருக்கும் சிக்கலான நிலையில் நமீதா, நயன்தாரா போன்ற பிரபல நடிகைகளின் ஆட்டம் வேறு சினிமாவுலகை அலைக்கழித்து வருகிறது. முன்பெல்லாம் ஒவ்வொரு படத்திலும் கதாநாயகிகளுக்கும் முக்கியத்துவம் இருக்கும். அதற்கேற்ற வகையில் பத்மினி, சாவித்திரி,
சரோஜாதேவி, கே.ஆர்.விஜயா போன்ற நடிக்கத் தெரிந்த நடிகைகள் கோடம்பாக்கத்தில் வலம் வந்தனர். ஆனால் இப்போதுள்ள நடிகைகளோ, தங்கள் கவர்ச்சி அங்கங்களை மட்டுமே அதிகபட்சம் வெளிப்படுத்தி அடுத்தடுத்து படங்களை அடைவதில் மட்டுமே ஆர்வமாக இருக்கிறார்கள்.
அதேபோன்று வெறுமனே ஜோகேஸ் பொம்மைகளாக வந்து செல்ல இவர்கள் வாங்கும் சம்பளம் கோடிகளில். நயன்தாராவைப் பொறுத்தவரை அவரது சம்பளம் ஒன்றேகால் கோடியாக இருந்ததாம். அதேசமயம் அவர் நடித்த `குசேலன்' மற்றும் `சத்யம்' படங்கள் அடுத்தடுத்து ஊற்றிக் கொண்டதால் சம்பளம் சரிந்து வருகிறதாம். நமீதாவைப் பொறுத்தவரை, நாற்பது லட்சம் சம்பளம் வாங்குகிறாராம். இதனாலும் படங்களின் பட்ஜெட் எகிறி தயாரிப்பாளர்களைத் திக்குமுக்காட வைக்கிறது. சம்பளம் மட்டுமின்றி, இப்போதைய நாயகிகளின் `அட்டகாசங்கள்' பற்றியும் தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் நொந்து கொள்வதை தனியாகவே எழுதலாம். `ஏன் இந்தப் போக்கு?' என்று இந்த நாயகிகளிடம் கேட்டால், `கதை இ
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From: VENKIRAJA on 25th August 2008 06:57 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by omega
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From: selvakumar on 25th August 2008 07:02 PM [Full View]
Bangalore la release aagume aagaatha
I am eager to see this movie in Theatre. Heard it had a good run in Sivakasi. Not sure on the dates. Must be more than 40 days.
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From: sarna_blr on 25th August 2008 07:05 PM [Full View]
Wt is the intention of that article Subramanyapuram mattum dhaan HIT'nu solraanga
edhu epdi pOnaa namakkenna namma Dhaavani dhEvadhaikku nalla padangal'la nadikka vaaippu kedachchaa pOdhum
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From: MrJudge on 25th August 2008 07:25 PM [Full View]
I liked couple of words in the message: "thundu", "jocase".
A few words to distributors/theater owners who go for big budget/star craps with their big mouth open "ungalukku ellam ithellam paththaathudaa, innum neenga anubavikkanum".
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From: Nasc on 25th August 2008 08:44 PM [Full View]
Mango fellow dasa pathi onum sollala....except just mentioning Dasa is a vidhi vilaku in some lines....haiyoo haiyoo,chippu thaan varuthu[/quote]
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From: Querida on 27th August 2008 09:11 AM [Full View]
Watched it, and pretty much share the same view as equanimus (your review was well written...good read). Even though in PV there was more violence and it was more excruciating to watch I liked the heroine...she was foolish but likeable...she had guts,spunk,her love was blind enough for her to knowingly overlook his flaws....
Thullasi on the other hand, is just a weepy immature baby that is just too weak..., her crying is supposed to make him an upright citizen all of a sudden...sonia in 7G, sandhya in kadhal, even bhavana in chitharam pesuthadi were better....for God sake's even Anjathey's heroine was better! her weakness is just so pathetic...she knew what her sithappa was capable of...and Azhagar's mom...she made no impact at all...talk about showing women in a bad light...
taking out this supposed killing scene with Thullasi in it...well we have seen enough violence haven't we in the movie already?
...i mean was there some kind of law lifted in showing violence against women in movies? Or are those lines just not crossed until now?...i mean bandit queen was just gut-wrenchingly putrid in violence...and that's a movie made in the 90s...i think it was only in "Ghajini" that i noticed Asin actually getting hit and it being shown fully...so cutting out this scene to reduce the violence doesn't seem enough of a good answer It would have made more sense too...since it seems like an eye for eye, tooth for tooth movie.
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From: Querida on 27th August 2008 09:20 AM [Full View]
//Shakthi I watched it! I liked it...poor Vineeth, he is portrayed as an effeminate, sissy kinda guy...but his dance skills Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
judge
I also wanna watch kalaignar's "uliyin osai". ....let me just tell you he was better than both the heroines! Errr i did though fast forward kalaignar's speech... //
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From: Shakthiprabha. on 27th August 2008 10:18 AM [Full View]
eh sissy guy
poor vineeth :rathak-kaneer:
I am really awaiting to watch, I am sure I would like it for its rich tamizh dialogues
and also for my passion towards historical fictions.
Would have to wait for my MIL and then pick up the cd (boring to watch alone )
//dign
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From: selvakumar on 27th August 2008 12:03 PM [Full View]
Querida, Did equanimus write a review for this film ? I read his one line review here though.
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From: Querida on 28th August 2008 01:06 AM [Full View]
Here you go Selva! (worth a read definitely!) Haha all this talk about you-know-who...i wonder if ears are burning by now :P
Originally Posted by equanimus
I really liked a couple of songs in the album, and it's certainly a good album overall. But, the film, I think, is staggeringly overrated.
Sitting through the whole film, I never came to care about the characters. They came off as a bunch of neatly cut out cardboard pieces, doing the same thing over and over again. Fine, let's keep aside the endless montage with Azhagar and Thulasi. Take the mother who wails and wails, everytime she is in a scene with Azhagar. You don't even see her doing anything else. She wails -- Azhagar shouts -- Paraman interrupts and tells her everything will be alright. Or, even Somu. There are two separate scenes showing him screaming at his kids watching TV. And, the "explanation" for his outburst is painfully spelt out in both the scenes.
Sasikumar imagines his characters to be completely preoccupied with one particular thing blissfully unreceptive to anything else that's happening to their life. (I'm talking about the bunch of friends here.) Their motivations are vague and one-dimensional for the sort of things they do in the film. They are shown to have no misgivings about going to any extent to do what they want to do (like all Tamil film "heroes"). Self-preservation is an instinct that was not written into these characters. The response one gets in return to this criticism often rests squarely on broad stereotypes, and is steeped in codescension. "Oh, they [the characters] are like that, they are jobless, they don't think like you do" and so on. In sociocultural terms, if we take two starkly different places, there will be a lot of differences between them, in their respective sociopolitical systems etc. When a filmmaker worth his salt chooses to set his film in a certain milieu, he'd try to understand the characters (wherever they come from), not simply "other" them, and finally stage an all-too-agreeable comeuppance.
**Spoilers ahead.**
This is why we have Azhagar brooding on being slammed in the "cross" of love when he's arrested along with his friend Paraman for a murder. Of all things, at that moment, he's worried about his love for Thulasi. The main duo, Azhagar and Paraman are conveniently etched characters. When they're loyal, they're loyal. When they're grateful, they're grateful. When they're in love, they're in love. They put in all their faith. The audience is simply expected to take this innocence and codes of honour at face value. "Oh, did we just commit a murder?" "Well, remember? We are paying back our debt to Ravi?" If the aftermath conversation was something like this, I'd have appreciated.
This is why the film's main themes like visuvAsam, kAdhal, louu, trust and betrayal come off as jokes, the character never looking beyond these "codes." The "triviality" -- so to put -- of the love story amidst the larger scheme of things never surfaces in the film, even a wee bit. Sasikumar constantly frames the film within the narrative of a love-story-gone-wrong. The notion of "betrayal" here is the biggest stereotype with respect to love stories in our land. Here too, Azhagar shows a great deal of anxiety about his love, forever romanticising his trust on Thulasi, that she'll stand by him even if he's standing agaisnt her whole family and what not. It's a pity that Sasikumar reflects on nothing beyond this sort of silly romanticisation. Au contraire, he feeds his narrative to this very romanticisation, and attempts to stage a tragic finale that plays out like a scene from 'Devdas' that accidentally got mixed with the reels of 'Pudhupettai.' (It is supposed to shock the audience, but my reaction was quite close to how PR had described his, a few pages before.)
**Spoilers end.**
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From: Querida on 28th August 2008 01:13 AM [Full View]
I knew a song was missing, was asking around but ahem...certain people had forgotten already : Originally Posted by kutti_anand
anyways yes I was wondering how such a modern song would fit into the 80s style movie...maybe that's why it wasn't included...
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From: Nerd on 28th August 2008 02:36 AM [Full View]
thEneeril snEgidham was not used in the movie because its just a *promotional* song.
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:00 PM [Full View]
Hi, I like exploitation films. Would this film appeal to me?
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 02:17 PM [Full View]
yes, this movie too exploits viewer's patience Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:19 PM [Full View]
ennala mudila... Originally Posted by MADDY
yes, this movie too exploits viewer's patience Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 02:23 PM [Full View]
You mean Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:26 PM [Full View]
Films like Cannibal holocaust, which is really hard to sit through. Also exploitation films with a strong polemic, like "Salo or the 120 Days of Sodom" which is hard to follow, as well as watch without puking. Originally Posted by selvakumar
You mean Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 02:27 PM [Full View]
oh Originally Posted by thilak4life
Your statement can be interpreted in many ways based on the audience and their taste :P
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:30 PM [Full View]
Just wanted to know how gory, and irreverent the violence/gore of this film is. Originally Posted by selvakumar
oh Originally Posted by thilak4life
Your statement can be interpreted in many ways based on the audience and their taste :P
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 02:31 PM [Full View]
ippa dhaan mudiyum-nnu sonninga Originally Posted by thilak4life
ennala mudila... Originally Posted by MADDY
yes, this movie too exploits viewer's patience Originally Posted by thilak4life
.........cannibal holocaust-aa, andha padam pudikkum-naa, endha madhiri gumman-guthhu padamum paathudulaame ......SuPu is just a nursery rhyme compared to cannibal holo.... - (ada indha pera vera full-a sollanuma??)
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:31 PM [Full View]
"Au contraire, he feeds his narrative to this very romanticisation, and attempts to stage a tragic finale that plays out like a scene from 'Devdas' that accidentally got mixed with the reels of 'Pudhupettai.'"
From this part, I take it that it's much more like PV than say a tour-de-force Cannibal holocaust. If so, I'm prone to hate this film.
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:34 PM [Full View]
illa, ungaloda attempted sarcasm thaanga mudila-nu sonnen..thappa eduthukka vendam... Originally Posted by MADDY
ippa dhaan mudiyum-nnu sonninga Originally Posted by thilak4life
ennala mudila... Originally Posted by MADDY
yes, this movie too exploits viewer's patience Originally Posted by thilak4life
.........cannibal holocaust-aa, andha padam pudikkum-naa, endha madhiri gumman-guthhu padamum paathudulaame ......SuPu is just a nursery rhyme compared to cannibal holo.... - (ada indha pera vera full-a sollanuma??)
SuPu very much sounds like a senti-based denouement. In that case, it wouldn't appeal to me (like PV). Maybe the ending could work for the shock effect, as I tend to shake off any indifference to such set piece.
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 02:34 PM [Full View]
chey !! tamil cinema eppo thaan munnerumoe Originally Posted by MADDY
ippa dhaan mudiyum-nnu sonninga .........cannibal holocaust-aa, andha padam pudikkum-naa, endha madhiri gumman-guthhu padamum paathudulaame ......SuPu is just a nursery rhyme compared to cannibal holo.... - (ada indha pera vera full-a sollanuma??)
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 02:37 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
What about the first half ? From the discussion, it looks like the second half is gory. First half nalla irukka
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 02:48 PM [Full View]
first half is fun.....it was good.......he establishes the atmosphere, but still i never understood why he wanted to show the movie happened in 80's..... Originally Posted by selvakumar
Maddy,
What about the first half ? From the discussion, it looks like the second half is gory. First half nalla irukka
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:49 PM [Full View]
"tamil cinema eppo thaan munnerumoe "
I think Tamil cinema should take a leaf out of Iranian and other Asian cinema. Or, look at their own. For example, we live in the world where you're more likely to hear about an OSO than a Nizhalkuthu. In general, be faithful to the milieu, but evolve with different cinematic ways (with/without realism). Indhi directors/scriptwriters are already improving in this area. This is not necessarily with gore, and violence. For example, 'kikujiro' is a fantastic film about a child. Compare that to say an Indian film centered on a man-child relationship, TZP, now that film needs to embellish a message in it, and in the process, fail to shake off a basic predicament. Sometimes, films need not be a social commentary. The filmmakers should first get the gist of the theme. At worst, the film should at least engage. Exploitation films is a different story where target audience will certainly be engaged, but again, we are speaking of betterment of tamil films. So no digress.
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From: directhit on 28th August 2008 02:51 PM [Full View]
dont worry thilak - kikujiro is coming in tamil
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From: thilak4life on 28th August 2008 02:52 PM [Full View]
Nalladhu thaan. Indha madhiri innum pala different genres start pannanum. Originally Posted by directhit
dont worry thilak - kikujiro is coming in tamil
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From: directhit on 28th August 2008 02:54 PM [Full View]
its really good to see diff kinda genres comin in tamil and more importantly makin some money too
Selva, neenga innum padam paakalaya?! - swathy kochukka poraanga
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 02:57 PM [Full View]
I guess Orampo is one among them :P Originally Posted by directhit
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 02:58 PM [Full View]
Nadigai kovichukuvaangannu padam paartha, hub la ulla pala peru TELUGU padangalah paarthukuttae irupaanga vaazhnaal porran
Haven't seen the film yet. Got a link for good quality dvd copy.. ll check it out soon
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 02:58 PM [Full View]
i think our industry is more like hollywood, where sensitivities will be much lesser than other global cinema styles but far better than bollywood/tamil movies.......we have a audience to reach out to just like holly.......so, i would be happy if we can improve our technology, reduce cliches and movies made faithful to scripts.....i'm not expecting asian, french, and other off beat movie styles coming in here.....hollywood standards reach pannale sandhosam dhaan
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:02 PM [Full View]
edhukku chumma hollywood maadhiri, iran maadhiri, asian maadhiri, french maadhiri padam varanum'nu edhirpaakkureenga avanga yaaraavudhu thamizh padam maadhiri pannanum solraangalaa
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:04 PM [Full View]
and wn few people proudly , American thamizh theriyalainai varuththa pattaanaa, naan mattum yEn english theriyalainu varuththappadanum'nu sollumbOdhu
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 03:06 PM [Full View]
there is a film institue somewhere in europe(pretty old news, dont have links) which has a subject "Maniratnam" Originally Posted by sarna_blr
edhukku chumma hollywood maadhiri, iran maadhiri, asian maadhiri, french maadhiri padam varanum'nu edhirpaakkureenga avanga yaaraavudhu thamizh padam maadhiri pannanum solraangalaa .......
theres no wrong in taking good things from other cultures for our betterment....
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:12 PM [Full View]
r u speaking about this Originally Posted by MADDY
there is a film institue somewhere in europe(pretty old news, dont have links) which has a subject "Maniratnam" Originally Posted by sarna_blr
edhukku chumma hollywood maadhiri, iran maadhiri, asian maadhiri, french maadhiri padam varanum'nu edhirpaakkureenga avanga yaaraavudhu thamizh padam maadhiri pannanum solraangalaa .......
theres no wrong in taking good things from other cultures for our betterment....
http://www.culturebase.net/artist.php?1399
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From: MADDY on 28th August 2008 03:20 PM [Full View]
hmmm not sure Originally Posted by sarna_blr
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From: HonestRaj on 28th August 2008 03:27 PM [Full View]
<dig>
Sarna.. post ur office website <end>
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:28 PM [Full View]
poraamai Originally Posted by HonestRaj
<dig>
Sarna.. post ur office website <end>
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 03:37 PM [Full View]
meendum ippO thAn tamil cinema nadakka Arambichchiukku (early 1980s-kku appuram) athukkuLLa paRakanumnA eppadi?
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 03:39 PM [Full View]
Mummy-3 innum 10 thadavaiyaavathu neenga theaterla poi paakanum athu thaan ungalukku thandanai SuPu DVD copy download panni pakkurathukkaaga. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Nadigai kovichukuvaangannu padam paartha, hub la ulla pala peru TELUGU padangalah paarthukuttae irupaanga vaazhnaal porran
Haven't seen the film yet. Got a link for good quality dvd copy.. ll check it out soon
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:41 PM [Full View]
this is too-much Originally Posted by MrJudge
wt r u expecting from thamizh movies
ok, according to u, indha padangal dhaan thamizh cinemaava nadakka vachchirukkunnu oru list kudunga
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 03:41 PM [Full View]
I was waiting for the film to release in theatres here. I don't think it will release here. Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 03:47 PM [Full View]
What am I expecting? hmmm.. .Atleast something new and fresh in story and screenplay? I don't care about too much violence since I am a grown up I can take it. Originally Posted by sarna_blr
wt r u expecting from thamizh movies
ok, according to u, indha padangal dhaan thamizh cinemaava nadakka vachchirukkunnu oru list kudunga
From Sethu to SuPu, there are atleast 10-15 films and in the last couple of years itself atleast 5/6 films. Directors are back in control now and their movies are doing good at BO, so what else you need to say nadakka arambichchirukku?
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 03:48 PM [Full View]
It isn't running in Sivakasi while you were in town? Originally Posted by selvakumar
I was waiting for the film to release in theatres here. I don't think it will release here. Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: HonestRaj on 28th August 2008 03:49 PM [Full View]
Not at all..... un mudhalali-ya nenachu varuthappataen :P Originally Posted by sarna_blr
poraamai Originally Posted by HonestRaj
<dig>
Sarna.. post ur office website <end>
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 03:51 PM [Full View]
No. Sathyam, Kuselan were running. This movie was screened and removed. Heard it had a run of 40+ days. not sure Originally Posted by MrJudge
It isn't running in Sivakasi while you were in town?
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 03:55 PM [Full View]
engalukku theriyum Originally Posted by HonestRaj
Not at all..... un mudhalali-ya nenachu varuthappataen :P Originally Posted by sarna_blr
poraamai Originally Posted by HonestRaj
<dig>
Sarna.. post ur office website <end> 2 pErum orEy field dhaana irukkOm , ivan mattum ivlO vettiyaa irukkaanEndra poraamai
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 03:55 PM [Full View]
No wonder, you ended up with Mummy-3. Originally Posted by selvakumar
angeyam ungalukku poosai thaan pola
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From: selvakumar on 28th August 2008 03:59 PM [Full View]
I thought of seeing Sathyam for Upendra. My friends warned me severely. So, brand mummy namekku saran adanchen. விதி வலியது ! Originally Posted by MrJudge
No wonder, you ended up with Mummy-3.
angeyam ungalukku poosai thaan pola
Moreover, I have already seen kuselan.
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From: HonestRaj on 28th August 2008 04:11 PM [Full View]
In CBE 50+* Originally Posted by selvakumar
No. Sathyam, Kuselan were running. This movie was screened and removed. Heard it had a run of 40+ days. not sure Originally Posted by MrJudge
It isn't running in Sivakasi while you were in town?
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 04:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
1... a... fresh in story'aa
b... fresh in screenplay is OK... Sedhu'naalum sari AzhagiyE theeyEnaalum sari, mozhi naalum sari, AnjaadhEynaalum sari screenplay fresh'aa irukku
2... yeah
3... idhu dhaan ellaaththukkum kaaranamE....
few months back one of our top tamil hero said, I want to do a movie like Chak-de-India
Namma director's enna panniyiruppaanga.... hErovukku introduction song + heroine'ku introduction song + 2 duets + 3 fights + Comedy actor'ku separate portion + andha ponnungala ara-gora dress pOttu aadavittu, adha 10 pasangala jollu vadiya paakkavittiruppaanga
appuram Chak-de-india..... Sick-de-india'vaa aayirukkum
appuram namma blog-mannargal, Sathyam padam eduththavangalukku kovil katti kumbidalaam'nu vimarsanam ezhudhiyiruppaanga
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From: viraajan on 28th August 2008 04:34 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
3... idhu dhaan ellaaththukkum kaaranamE....
few months back one of our top tamil hero said, I want to do a movie like Chak-de-India
Namma director's enna panniyiruppaanga.... hErovukku introduction song + heroine'ku introduction song + 2 duets + 3 fights + Comedy actor'ku separate portion + andha ponnungala ara-gora dress pOttu aadavittu, adha 10 pasangala jollu vadiya paakkavittiruppaanga
appuram Chak-de-india..... Sick-de-india'vaa aayirukkum
appuram namma blog-mannargal, Sathyam padam eduththavangalukku kovil katti kumbidalaam'nu vimarsanam ezhudhiyiruppaanga
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From: MrJudge on 28th August 2008 07:27 PM [Full View]
I said 'something' (meaning at least little bit freshness if not full). Originally Posted by sarna_blr
I was talking about new upcoming good directors, the kind you are talking about is always plenty in our industry. Originally Posted by sarna_blr
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From: sarna_blr on 28th August 2008 07:29 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
1st we should throw-out these directors from tamizhcinema
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From: A.ANAND on 29th August 2008 09:55 AM [Full View]
tamil cinema-la maniratnam mattum than intererting-ah story sollvathil bale killadi innu nenacha ennakku, sasikumar vanthu en ennathai 'thool tholakitaru'.hatts off to him, give such a beatifull movie to tamil cinema
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 04:18 PM [Full View]
Thanks, Querida and Prabhu Ram. (Ha, what a quick response!)
Querida,
The "an eye for eye, tooth for tooth" plot developments didn't work at all for me. It just seemed like a barrage of acts of retaliation with no sense of idam, poruL and Eval. And, the audience is simply expected to take some of these plot twists as totally unexpected acts of dhrOgam because the characters say so! If only they had possessed an iota of self-preservation instinct... they'd have known better. This is where I'd like to bring my point about the fake "codes of honour" of these characters again. Sasikumar succeeds only in romanticising age-old cliches like their being gullible, innocent souls beneath the rough exterior, visuvAsam, nanRik kadan and so on, not in effectively portraying the naiveté of these characters caught in a web of crime that extends far beyond their grasp. There is not a single moment when we see them going through a sense of confusion or inner turmoil. This almost programmatic manner in which the characters behave, never allowed me to take these characters seriously. **Spoilers ahead** Just to illustrate my point, Dumka and Dopa try to kill Kasi right after he's released. Which is a good 28 years after he "betrayed" Paraman. But, Dumka and Dopa haven't wasted any of their time all these years mulling over the circumstances in which he "betrayed" Paraman, and what all he has already gone through since he got himself involved in this racket. **Spoilers end**
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 04:33 PM [Full View]
Oh, no, that was NOT a "one line review." A knee-jerk contrarian reaction is more like it. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Thilak, Originally Posted by thilak4life
Spoiler note pOttum, padichchittInga. nAn poRuppu illa.
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 05:36 PM [Full View]
oh ! I interpreted it like the verdict value you can see in a sify review or Sun Tv top 10. A one line summary on the whole movie. I thought it pretty much conveyed what is required for a person who hasn't seen the movie yet. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 06:02 PM [Full View]
No! It was just my personal one-line reaction to the film with respect to the kind of critical reception it has got. I corrected the "one line review" bit because, in a "review" (though, personally, I desist using this word for whatever I write), one has to say at least something about the film. There, I was just trashing the film. Originally Posted by selvakumar
oh ! I interpreted it like the verdict value you can see in a sify review or Sun Tv top 10. A one line summary on the whole movie. I thought it pretty much conveyed what is required for a person who hasn't seen the movie yet. Originally Posted by equanimus
I'm not into giving "verdicts" or any such thing for others. I'd expect everyone to see the film for themselves. Simple as that.
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 06:18 PM [Full View]
I said *I* interpreted it more like one's WOM. One that helps others to decide before watching a film. You might not have meant it that way. But one who reads such statements without any expectation on the movie will interpret it that way. (something like how Bala reacted to that) It is like asking "Padam eppadipa".... hmmm "athu oru kuppai paa" (It is a *trash*). Yes, *Review* is a word that that I shouldn't have used. Originally Posted by equanimus
No! It was just my personal one-line reaction to the film with respect to the kind of critical reception it has got. I corrected the "one line review" bit because, in a "review" (though, personally, I desist using this word for whatever I write), one has to say at least something about the film. There, I was just trashing the film.
I'm not into giving "verdicts" or any such thing for others. I'd expect everyone to see the film for themselves. Simple as that.
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 06:55 PM [Full View]
Selva,
I did get what you meant by "I interpreted it like the verdict value." I primarily wanted to say that a one-line note on a film can't be a "review." So, while I was at it, I thought I should urge that my opinion on a film shouldn't be taken as some sort of "verdict" for anyone. (I don't even understand how it could be taken like that.) avvaLavu dhAn.
In general (pardon the digression), word-of-mouth works in complex ways to say the least. Just to provide a hypothetical case, someone might choose not to watch a film ostensibly because of a one-line note (from whoever it comes), but it's still entirely the decision of the reader. It could have actually stemmed from several reasons, one among which is that particular one-line note. The key part (from your post) is: "without any expectation on the movie." It all boils down to how one's expectation on a film is moulded by everything around him/her. Since you point to Bala's "reaction" (though I couldn't quite understand what he meant to say; Bala, explanation please), Bala might have reacted very differently if many other acquaintances of his had very positive things to say about the film. At the end of the day, his expectations, or lack thereof, on the film is something that's his own.
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 07:06 PM [Full View]
equanimus,
Itha pathi aen ivvalavu serious ah pesuroem. Yes, I interpreted it like that. From your explanation, it could be my mistake FYI, I interpreted PR's two words "boring gorefest" in the similar way. "mindblowing trash" um athuvum enakku onnu thaan. Itha vachi padam paarkurathu paarkama irukkirathum avanga avanga viruppam. neenga interpret ae panna koodathunnu sollureengala (illai thappa purinjikittaennu sollureengala )
If you don't want that to be interpreted as a verdict or a small review on the film, then let it be. I will correct it down the line
And I agree with what you say about WOM. But for a film it works for me most of the time and I value it. Vidunga
ithukku mela pesa virumbala..
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 07:22 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
equanimus,
Itha pathi aen ivvalavu serious ah pesuroem.adadA, idhula serious ellAm oNNum illa. It's just that I like theorizing and am currently on vacation. So, was reflecting on WOM and all that. Even now, I'm not sure why you're shocked? Originally Posted by selvakumar
ithukku mela pesa virumbala..
appadi ellAm edhuvumE sollala. I am not comfortable with the word "verdict," and I expressed that. Originally Posted by selvakumar
neenga interpret ae panna koodathunnu sollureengala (illai thappa purinjikittaennu sollureengala )
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 07:25 PM [Full View]
Intha padathu director kooda intha aLavu yosichirukka maattan
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 07:32 PM [Full View]
My shock was for our discussion only. Never thought we will analyze it this way. WOM, verdict, interpretation Originally Posted by equanimus
Neenga vacation la irukkirathah munnaidyae solli irukkalaam :P
OK - just correct me if it is wrongappadi ellAm edhuvumE sollala. I am not comfortable with the word "verdict," and I expressed that.
1) Your one line statement is just your *reaction*. It is not a REVIEW as I mentioned (Yes, I now understand CLEARLY that it is not a review)
2) Also, it is not a verdict on the movie. No one should interpret it as something that can be used to assess whether they can see the film.
3) WOM is not an accurate thing and depends on the person who is giving it..
correct ah
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From: NOV on 29th August 2008 07:40 PM [Full View]
Just go and watch it Selva and give your own verdict; I am sure thats what equanimus means.
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From: equanimus on 29th August 2008 07:41 PM [Full View]
Selva,
ellAm correctu dhAn! But, on WOM, I wasn't commenting on the one who's giving it, but rather that the WOM for anyone ("receiver") is an incoherent mass of opinions from different "mouths," if you know what I mean.
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Intha padathu director kooda intha aLavu yosichirukka maattan
nAnga indha padaththa paththi pEsavE illaiyE. But then, adhuvum thappu dhAnE. End digression.
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 07:45 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
Selva,
ellAm correctu dhAn!
I got that point. But I just said it works mostly (at least for me).But, on WOM, I wasn't commenting on the one who's giving it, but rather that the WOM for anyone ("receiver") is an incoherent mass of opinions from different "mouths," if you know what I mean.
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 07:57 PM [Full View]
Selva,
SubramaniyaPuram bangalore varave illiya ?
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 07:58 PM [Full View]
AFAIK, illai joe. I am sure on this. I think they will release it like PKMC Originally Posted by joe
Selva,
SubramaniyaPuram bangalore varave illiya ? (it got released after months)
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 08:01 PM [Full View]
Inga Singapore-layum release aagalla ..aana ivanunga maanasthanunga .. theatre-la varallinna VCD release panniduvanga Originally Posted by selvakumar
AFAIK, illai joe. I am sure on this. I think they will release it like PKMC Originally Posted by joe
Selva,
SubramaniyaPuram bangalore varave illiya ? (it got released after months)
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From: selvakumar on 29th August 2008 08:03 PM [Full View]
ingayum maanasthargal nerya irukaanga... pirated DVD / VCD ellam sila neram padam relaese aagurathukulla kondu vanthiduvaanga... it is available in DVDs here.. pirated one.. quality poor ah irukkum Originally Posted by joe
Inga Singapore-layum release aagalla ..aana ivanunga maanasthanunga .. theatre-la varallinna VCD release panniduvanga
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From: NOV on 29th August 2008 08:04 PM [Full View]
hows dinner selva?
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From: joe on 29th August 2008 08:10 PM [Full View]
athellam pakkathu naatu NOV kitta thaan kekkanum Originally Posted by selvakumar
ingayum maanasthargal nerya irukaanga... pirated DVD / VCD ellam sila neram padam relaese aagurathukulla kondu vanthiduvaanga... it is available in DVDs here.. pirated one.. quality poor ah irukkum Originally Posted by joe
Inga Singapore-layum release aagalla ..aana ivanunga maanasthanunga .. theatre-la varallinna VCD release panniduvanga
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From: NOV on 29th August 2008 08:13 PM [Full View]
for your inparmesan, ingE SuPu oru maasaththukku mele cinema theatre la Odinichu. :P Originally Posted by joe
athellam pakkathu naatu NOV kitta thaan kekkanum
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From: Thalafanz on 7th September 2008 08:52 AM [Full View]
Subramaniapuram Movie Theme Song
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ35TwlYkI&NR=1
Not sure whether it is already posted here or not
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From: HonestRaj on 9th September 2008 12:48 PM [Full View]
I think Saroja is also not released in BLR, right? Originally Posted by selvakumar
AFAIK, illai joe. I am sure on this. I think they will release it like PKMC Originally Posted by joe
Selva,
SubramaniyaPuram bangalore varave illiya ? (it got released after months)
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From: MrJudge on 9th September 2008 01:09 PM [Full View]
This song is my pick from Subramaniapuram. Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Subramaniapuram Movie Theme Song
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ35TwlYkI&NR=1
Not sure whether it is already posted here or not
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From: Tia on 9th September 2008 10:12 PM [Full View]
omg this is the most EWWWW tamil movie i have seen in my life
sawing the neck of
ewww
and betrayal frends ish rele depressing
but i guess its good in its own little way :S
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From: MrJudge on 9th September 2008 10:16 PM [Full View]
This movie is not for kids.... Originally Posted by Tia
omg this is the most EWWWW tamil movie i have seen in my life
sawing the neck of
ewww
and betrayal frends ish rele depressing
but i guess its good in its own little way :S
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From: Tia on 9th September 2008 10:19 PM [Full View]
i realised
Originally Posted by MrJudge
This movie is not for kids.... Originally Posted by Tia
omg this is the most EWWWW tamil movie i have seen in my life
sawing the neck of
ewww
and betrayal frends ish rele depressing
but i guess its good in its own little way :S
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From: selvakumar on 10th September 2008 11:00 AM [Full View]
What ? that you are not a kid anymore :P Originally Posted by Tia
i realised
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From: MrJudge on 10th September 2008 11:05 AM [Full View]
I think she realized after seeing the film it is not for her... meaning she is still a kid Originally Posted by selvakumar
What ? that you are not a kid anymore :P Originally Posted by Tia
i realised
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From: selvakumar on 10th September 2008 11:08 AM [Full View]
Judge, that was a digg. not related to the film. Gaayukku puriyum
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From: MrJudge on 10th September 2008 11:12 AM [Full View]
Ok Ok Originally Posted by selvakumar
Judge, that was a digg. not related to the film. Gaayukku puriyum
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From: dinesh13284 on 10th September 2008 11:41 AM [Full View]
I too felt like ewww.. but im not a kid.. Originally Posted by MrJudge
I think she realized after seeing the film it is not for her... meaning she is still a kid Originally Posted by selvakumar
What ? that you are not a kid anymore :P Originally Posted by Tia
i realised
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From: MrJudge on 10th September 2008 12:23 PM [Full View]
You think you are not but actually you are.... Originally Posted by dinesh13284
I too felt like ewww.. but im not a kid..
Just kidding..
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From: NOV on 10th September 2008 12:28 PM [Full View]
will everyone accept me as a kid if I say SuPu is ewwww.
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From: joe on 10th September 2008 12:35 PM [Full View]
Surely I will Originally Posted by NOV
will everyone accept me as a kid if I say SuPu is ewwww.
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From: Thirumaran on 10th September 2008 12:42 PM [Full View]
vayasaanavangalum kuzhanthai maathirithaan. So u are Originally Posted by NOV
will everyone accept me as a kid if I say SuPu is ewwww.
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From: MrJudge on 10th September 2008 12:59 PM [Full View]
*Caution*
A bunch of oldies here in a scam to reduce their ages, so all the real kids please stay away.
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From: dinesh13284 on 10th September 2008 02:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
*Caution*
A bunch of oldies here in a scam to reduce their ages, so all the real kids please stay away.
not really..
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From: Tia on 10th September 2008 09:22 PM [Full View]
lol hahaha
i know everyone wants to be a kid like me :angel-face:
im jus such a role model to be a kid
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From: Thirumaran on 11th September 2008 09:34 AM [Full View]
oh yeah.. but avatar mattum change pannidunga Originally Posted by Tia
im jus such a role model to be a kid
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From: sarna_blr on 11th September 2008 09:36 AM [Full View]
TM anna :P ask her to learn from me Originally Posted by Thirumaran
oh yeah.. but avatar mattum change pannidunga Originally Posted by Tia
im jus such a role model to be a kid
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From: Tia on 14th September 2008 05:52 PM [Full View]
ha no! nayantara looks awesome like superwoman in my avatar
i know its scaring u, but dont worry, the avatar won't come to life through the hub !
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
oh yeah.. but avatar mattum change pannidunga Originally Posted by Tia
im jus such a role model to be a kid
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From: Murali Srinivas on 18th September 2008 11:53 PM [Full View]
ஒரு மதுரை ட்ரிப். திரும்பி வரும் போது பஸ் பயணத்தில் இந்த படம். நிறைய படித்தோமே, கேள்விபட்டோமே என்று பார்த்தேன். பாதி படத்தில் டி.வி.டி ஏதோ கோளாறு காரணமாக நின்று போனது.
பார்த்த வரையில் (இங்கே ஒருவர் சொன்னது போல்) ஏன் கதை 1980-ல் நடக்க வேண்டும் என்பது பிடிபடவில்லை. ஒரு வேளை இரண்டாம் பகுதியில் இருந்திருக்கலாம். முதல் பகுதி பின்னால் வர போகும் சம்பவங்களுக்காக ஏற்படுத்தப்படும் களன் போல் தெரிந்தது. மதுரை வட்டார மொழி இப்போது அனேகமாக நிறைய படங்களில் வருகிறது (என்று நினைக்கிறேன்) என்றாலும் இந்த படத்தில் அது இயல்பாக இருக்கிறது.
" விளக்கு வச்ச உடனே வீட்டுக்குள்ள போக அவங்க என்ன சமைஞ்ச பிள்ளைங்களா"
"நோன்னை! ஜாரி பெயரை சொன்னவுடனே சிகரெட்டை தூக்கி எரியறே" போன்றவை சட்டென்று நினைவுக்கு வருகிறது,
அந்த மௌனமான காதல் அழகாக சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அந்த பார்வை பரிமாற்றங்கள், வெட்க சிரிப்புகள், பிறர் பார்த்து விடக் கூடாதே என்ற தவிப்பு எல்லாம் கச்சிதம். குறிப்பாக இரண்டு சீன் சொல்ல வேண்டும். குதிரை வண்டியில் முழங்காலை கட்டிக்கொண்டு உட்கார்ந்தபடியே, பின்னால் சைக்கிளில் வருபவனை சின்ன கை அசைப்பிலும் கண் அசைவிலும் (மகிழ்வோடும் தவிப்போடும்) போ போ என்று சொல்வது, கோவில் பூஜை முடிந்து சாப்பிட்டு கை கழுவி விட்டு வரும் அழகர், நாயகியை நோக்கி வர, சுற்றிலும் எல்லோரும் இருக்கிறார்களே என்று நாயகி ஒரு நிமிடம் பதறி ஒதுங்க, ஒரு சின்ன சிரிப்போடு வேறு பக்கம் போகும் அவனை பார்த்து பயம் தெளிந்த அந்த பார்வை மற்றும் சிரிப்பு எல்லாமே இயல்பான கவிதை. காலேஜ் கட் அடித்து விட்டு சினிமாவிற்கு வரும் நாயகியை அழகர் கோபித்து கொள்ள உடனே "இவங்கல்லாம் கம்பெல் பண்ணாங்க" என்று தோழிகள் மேல் பழி போடுவது, கூட வந்த தோழி " வாங்கி கொடுங்கண்ணே" என்று (மதுரைக்கே உரித்தான) உறவு முறை கொண்டாடுவது எல்லாமே இயல்பு.
கதை மாந்தர்கள் யதார்த்தமாக இருப்பது ஒரு பிளஸ். குறிப்பாக அந்த டுமுக்கான்! தெருவில் சண்டை வரும் போது துண்டை போட்டு அதில் சோடா பாட்டில்களை வைத்து சுருட்டி அடிப்பது அப்படியே மதுரை தெருவில் அரங்கேறும் ஒரு சண்டையை நேரில் பார்ப்பது போல் இருக்கிறது. அது போல தியேட்டர் சண்டையும். பெயர்கள் கூட இயல்பான மதுரை பெயர்கள் (அழகர், பரமன்). அந்த நேரத்தில் வந்த பாடல்கள் (சிறு பொன்மணி அசையும் மற்றும் நான்கு பக்கம் வேடருண்டு பாடலின் பின்னணி இசை) சரியான இடத்தில் சேர்க்கப்பட்டிருக்கின்றன. ரிகஷாவில் போகும் தர்மகர்த்தா எதிரே வரும் மைக் செட்டுக்காரனின் மனைவியை பார்க்கும் போது பின்னணியில் "தோட்டம் கொண்ட ராஜாவே! சூடி கொண்ட ராசாத்தி!" பாடல் ஒலிப்பது, இயக்குனரின் குசும்பு.
பொதுவாக அந்த கால கட்டம் அப்படியே பிரதிபலிக்க வேண்டும் என்று நிறைய மெனக்கெட்டிருப்பது தெரிகிறது.
ஆகாஷவாணியில் "முதலமைச்சர் எம்.ஜி.ராமச்சந்திரன்---" என்ற சரோஜ் நாராயணசுவாமியின் குரல், சுவற்றில் மதுரை ஜெகதாவில் "கெளரவம்" பட போஸ்டர்கள் என்று நிறைய சொல்லலாம். ஆனால் இவ்வளவு தூரம் சரியாக செய்தவர்கள் இரண்டு மூன்று இடங்களில் கோட்டை விட்டிருக்கிறார்கள். (sorry for the nit picks)
வீட்டில் டி.வி.யில் ஒலியும் ஒளியும் பார்க்கும் குழந்தைகளை எக்ஸ். கவுன்சிலர் சத்தம் போடுகிறார். 1980 வருட படமான ஒரு தலை ராகத்தின் "கூடையிலே கருவாடு! கூந்தலிலே பூக்காடு" (TR!) பாடலை எடுத்து கொண்ட சசிகுமார் ஒரு விஷயத்தை மறந்து விட்டார். 1980 -ல் மதுரையில் டி.வியே கிடையாது. டி.வி.வந்ததே 1982-ல் ஏஷியாட் வந்த பிறகு தான். அதிலும் தமிழ் ஒளிப்பரப்பு வந்தது 1987 வருடம் ஜனவரி மாதம் 14 ந் தேதி கொடைக்கானல் நிலையம் ஆரம்பிக்கப்பட்ட பிறகுதான்.
அது போல சாராய கடை காட்டப்படுகிறது. 1980-ல் மதுவிலக்கு இருந்தது. 1981 ஜூலை 1ந் தேதி தான் மதுக்கடைகள் திறக்கப்பட்டன. 1980 என்று குறிப்பிடாமல் 1980-களில் என்று சொல்லியிருந்தால் இந்த குறையும் வந்திருக்காது.
முரட்டு காளை ரிலீஸ் மதுரை -சென்ட்ரல் என்று காட்டப்படுகிறது. ஆனால் அது வெளியானது சிவம் தியேட்டரில்.
முழுமையாக பார்த்திருந்தால் அபிப்ராயம் சொல்லியிருக்கலாம். பார்த்த வரை நல்ல முயற்சி என்றே தோன்றியது. பிரபு, ஜோ போன்றவர்கள் அதிகமான வன்முறை என்று சொல்லியிருந்தார்கள். அதை பார்க்காததால் அதை பற்றி சொல்ல முடியவில்லை.
அன்புடன்
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From: joe on 19th September 2008 06:50 AM [Full View]
முரளி சார்,
பேருந்தில் ஆட்டத்துக்கிடையே சின்ன திரையில் பார்த்துமே இவ்வளவு துல்லியமாக கவனிக்க உங்களால் தான் முடியும்
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From: Nerd on 19th September 2008 09:44 AM [Full View]
romba aNubavichu ezhudhirukkeenga!! :P Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
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From: rangan_08 on 19th September 2008 10:06 AM [Full View]
Murali sir, once again your analytical, reasoning, and writing skills comes to the fore. A very clear & crispy review.
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From: sarna_blr on 19th September 2008 10:21 AM [Full View]
Madurai mattumillai Aruppukottai'la kooda ipdi dhaan pEsuvaanga :P I miss my oor Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
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From: Murali Srinivas on 19th September 2008 10:30 AM [Full View]
ஜோ,
நன்றி.
Nerd,
எல்லோர் வாழ்க்கையிலும் இந்த அனுபவம் நேரிடையாகவோ அல்லது நண்பர்களுக்கு, தெரிந்தவர்களுக்கு நடந்தாகவோ அமைந்திருக்கும், இல்லையா?
Mohan,
Thanks.
அன்புடன்
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From: P_R on 19th September 2008 11:39 AM [Full View]
As always, a good post Mr.MuraLi.
The recreation of the milieau, the authenticity, the language (when select characters like Paraman speak: இந்த ஜூ-வ குடுத்தா எவளா இருந்தாலும் பாக்கத்தான் செய்வாளுக ) were all done well.
On the whole I was not impressed with the Azhagar-ThuLasi 'subtle' romance. But one sequence I enjoyed was the one in the theatre. While the whole gang is dancing - he tries to hold back to make a 'decent' impression. A very typical moment, well captured
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From: HonestRaj on 20th September 2008 05:07 PM [Full View]
Murali sir for your memory power!!!!!
How you r remembering a lot of things that too most accurately?
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From: omega on 20th September 2008 05:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
முரளி சார்,
பேருந்தில் ஆட்டத்துக்கிடையே சின்ன திரையில் பார்த்துமே இவ்வளவு துல்லியமாக கவனிக்க உங்களால் தான் முடியும்
Azhagaana pathivu. Thangal pathivu ennai meendum oru murai (mudhal paathiayai mattum) paarka thoondiyathu.
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From: Murali Srinivas on 22nd September 2008 07:05 PM [Full View]
நன்றி பிரபு, கார்த்திக் & ஒமேகா.
அன்புடன்
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From: jaiganes on 22nd September 2008 07:38 PM [Full View]
After frustrating wait to get hold of the DVD of the movie, ended up seeing it as DIVX online. After the watch decided to buy this one for the DVD collection. -Pure awesome cinema. nothing else. very tight screenplay - natural performances and offcourse completely raw!!! no silly comedy scenes for diversion, the romantic angle was well integrated into the plot, the camera work (I heard from reliable sources that it was shot in super 16 ) was great and so was music (only two songs - both add tremendous value to the proceedings. I was floored by the "surrender" scene - it was absolutely true - the lack of sensationalism in the scene simply made it all the more sensational. On the whole a very satisfying movie - Deserves may repeat watches - offcourse this time with good DVDs purchased or viewed in theatre if it releases nearby. Wouldn't mind driving all the way to DC to catch up with this one. I have done that sin for some high budget shit movie earlier this year.
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From: selvakumar on 27th September 2008 08:16 PM [Full View]
சுப்ரமணியபுரம்
தற்காலத்திற்கு இறந்தகாலத்தை நினைவூட்டும் படம். . ஆங்காங்கே சிற்சில குறைகள் இருப்பினும், பார்க்க முடிகிறது. எந்தஒரு இலக்கும் இல்லாமல் படம் பயணிக்கிறது. சில காட்சிகளில் வெறுமை மட்டுமே இழையோடுகிறது - வெறித்துப்பார்க்கும் அளவிற்கு. முழுமையாக ரசிக்க முடியவில்லை. இடைவேளைக்கு அப்புறம் ஏதோ ஒன்று படத்தில் நடக்கப்போகிறது என்பதை ஊகிக்க முடிகிறது. அதன் பொருட்டு பார்வையாளனுக்கு வரும் ஒரு எதிர்பார்ப்பு, இயக்குனரின் வெற்றி. படத்தின் வெற்றிக்கான காரணமாகவும் இருக்கலாம்.
80களில் நடக்கும் கதை என்பதால், படத்தில் எப்போதும் ஒரு இருக்கம், புழுக்கம். சாலிடேர் டிவி, ஹாஜிமூசா கடை விளம்பரம், ஜன்னல் - கதவுகளின் வடிவமைப்பு, வரி விளம்பரங்கள் என்று சின்ன சின்ன விஷயங்களில், படத்தின் கலை இயக்குநரும், இயக்குநரும் அநாயசமாக சதம் அடித்திருக்கிறார்கள்.
சைக்கிள்களைப்பற்றி கொஞ்சம் அதிகமாகவே தெரியும் என்பதால், பழைய 'சாதா சீட் கவர்', பிரேமை மறைக்கும் விளம்பர சட்டம், பழைய இரும்பு பூட்டு, மெலிதான் ஸ்டாண்ட் என்னைக் கவர்ந்தது. :P இதனுடன் அப்போது பிரபலமான 'ராலே' சைக்கிளை காட்டியிருந்தால் இன்னும் பிடித்திருக்கலாம். (நான் இன்னும் இந்த சைக்கிளை வைத்துள்ளேன் ) அதுபோக, 'Lambretta', பழைய அம்பாஸிடர் (?????), திருவிழா காட்சியமைப்புகள் என்று சொல்லிக்கொண்டே போகலாம். திருவிழா காட்சியமைப்பு சிறுவயதில் குலதெய்வ வழிபாட்டிற்கு சென்றதை நினைவூட்டியது. இப்படி ஏகப்பட்டவை. எனது உறவினர் வீட்டில் நாங்கள் பார்த்த சாலிடேருக்கு கதவுகள் உட்புறம் இருக்கும். இப்படத்தில் வெளிப்புறமாக இருக்கிறது. சரியாக கவனிக்க முடியவில்லை. (முரட்டுக்காளை காட்சியமைப்பு இதில் வலிந்து திணிக்கப்பட்டது போன்று எனக்குத்தோன்றியது. அந்தகால வழக்கங்களின் போதுமான புரிந்துணர்வு இல்லாததால் ஆராய முடியவில்லை. இருப்பினும் புத்தம்புது laminated cutout அந்தக்காலத்தில் இருந்திருக்குமா என்ற சந்தேகம் வலுக்கிறது).
கதையைப் பொறுத்தவரை பெரிதாக ஒன்றும் இல்லை. இருப்பினும் காட்சியமைப்பு நிறைய இடங்களில் நிறைவை அளித்தது. காதல் காட்சிகள் முதலில் செம்மையாக இருந்தாலும், போகப்போக அலுப்பு தட்டிவிட்டது. கதாநாயகி கிட்டத்தட்ட அந்தகாலத்து மடத்தனமான சினிமா நாயகியை நினைவூட்டுகிறார். ஒருகட்டத்தில் இவரை உண்மையாகவே அழகர் காதலிக்கிறாரா என்று கூட தலையைச் சொறிய ஆரம்பித்தேன். நிறைவான பாத்திரங்கள் என்றால் - பரமனும், காசியும் தான் கஞ்சா கருப்பு கலக்கியிருக்கிறார் அவருடன் சசிகுமாரும்.
வசனம் ஆங்காங்கே சறுக்கியது. கதாநாயகி அப்போதுள்ள பெண்கள் ( ?? ) விதவிதமாக போன் (??) வைத்துள்ளதைப்பற்றிக் குறிப்பிட்டு அங்கலாய்க்கிறார். ??? சில இடங்களில் குசும்பை ரசிக்க முடிகிறது. குறிப்பாக, சீரியல் செட் போடுபவனை, தற்போது குத்தகை கிடைத்தவனின் நிலையுடன் ஒப்பிட்டு "ஓட்டும்" போது அண்ணி மைத்துனனைப்பார்த்து "இதெல்லாம் என்ன ஜென்மமோ" என்று கூறும்போது எனக்கு சிரிப்பை அடக்க முடியவில்லை.
அழகர் - பரமன் கோஷ்டி ஏன் திடீரேன விஸ்வரூபம் எடுக்கிறார்கள் என்பது கடைசிவரை எனக்கு விளங்கவில்லை. ஒரு கட்டத்தில் மாஸ் ஹீரோக்களுக்கான பிண்ணனி இசை வேறு. இடைவேளைக்கு அப்புறம் "நானும் சிறந்தபடம் எடுக்கிறேன் பாரு" என்று வன்முறையை அள்ளித்தெளிக்கிறார்கள். கழுத்து அறுக்கப்பட்டு இரத்தமும், சதையும் கீழேவிழும் வரை !! என்னவோ கொல்லப்படுபவர்கள் குறித்து கொலையுண்டவரைப்பார்த்து வரும் பரிதாமமும், கதறலும் வரவில்லை. "செத்துட்டுபோறான் போ" என்று இருந்தது. பரமன் இறந்தபோது கொஞ்சம் கஷ்டமாக இருந்தது. கன்னடப் படங்களில் வரும் வன்முறையை ஒத்திருந்தது இது. எனக்கு அந்த அளவிற்கு இரண்டாம் பாகம் பிடிக்கவில்லை. இருப்பினும் பல வன்முறைப் படங்களைப் பார்த்துவிட்டதால், இது ஒன்றும் பெரிதாக (இப்போது) தோன்றவில்லை.
பின்னணி இசை இளையராஜாவை *நகல்" எடுத்தது போலிருத்தது. "சிறுபொன்மணி' பாடலில் கிடைத்த உணர்வு படம் முழுவதும் இருந்திருக்கக் கூடாதா என்றிருந்தது. இளையராஜா இப்படத்தை தவறவிட்டுவிட்டார் என்பதைவிட, இப்படம் இளையராஜாவை தவற விட்டுவிட்டது என்று சொல்லாம். இது அவருக்கு உண்டான களம். அவர் நிச்சயம் பின்னிப்பிரித்து இருப்பார் என்று தோன்றியது.
கொஞ்சம் மசாலா + + கொஞ்சம் கலகலப்பு + கொஞ்சம் நெருடல் + நிறைய "அட!" என்று போகிறது - சுப்ரமணியபுரம்
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 27th September 2008 10:26 PM [Full View]
jaiganes, Selvakumar great reviews!!
Selva,
padam muzhukka paakama mathavangaloda -ve review mattum padichutu sila per padam overrated-nu sonnapodhu I was and engga neengalum adhe maadhriyana review kodupingalo-nu nenachu bayandhuten. But this is a very good review and a honest one too!
Violence konjam adhigam thaan, ratham sotta sotta vetturadhu is equal to showing blood after a rape scene.Yes, Sasi should have avoided those scenes.
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From: joe on 27th September 2008 10:31 PM [Full View]
Selva Review
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From: P_R on 27th September 2008 11:32 PM [Full View]
நல்ல விமர்சனம் செல்வா.
Is it ! I missed that. Originally Posted by selvakumar
'சுப்ரமணியபுரம்' பாட்டு தான் எனக்கு breaking point-ஆக ஆனது Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: littlemaster1982 on 28th September 2008 12:00 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
நல்ல விமர்சனம் செல்வா.
Is it ! I missed that. Originally Posted by selvakumar
"இந்த காலத்து பொண்ணுங்க காதலிச்சவன் ஞாபகமா விதவிதமான ஃபோட்டோவும் கிஃப்டுமா வச்சிருக்காளுங்க".
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From: thamiz on 28th September 2008 07:58 AM [Full View]
///அது போல சாராய கடை காட்டப்படுகிறது. 1980-ல் மதுவிலக்கு இருந்தது. 1981 ஜூலை 1ந் தேதி தான் மதுக்கடைகள் திறக்கப்பட்டன. 1980 என்று குறிப்பிடாமல் 1980-களில் என்று சொல்லியிருந்தால் இந்த குறையும் வந்திருக்காது.
முரட்டு காளை ரிலீஸ் மதுரை -சென்ட்ரல் என்று காட்டப்படுகிறது. ஆனால் அது வெளியானது சிவம் தியேட்டரில்.
முழுமையாக பார்த்திருந்தால் அபிப்ராயம் சொல்லியிருக்கலாம். பார்த்த வரை நல்ல முயற்சி என்றே தோன்றியது. பிரபு, ஜோ போன்றவர்கள் அதிகமான வன்முறை என்று சொல்லியிருந்தார்கள். அதை பார்க்காததால் அதை பற்றி சொல்ல முடியவில்லை.
அன்புடன்///
Beautiful analysis!
பேசும் சிலாங் ல கூட, அமீர் அளவுக்கு/பாலாஜி ச்க்திவேல் அளவுக்கு "வார்த்தைகளில்" மதுரைப்பேச்சை கொண்டுவரமுடியவில்லை.
சிவத்தில், முரட்டுக்காளை என்றும், செண்ட்ரலில் சகலகலாவல்லவன் என்றும் மூன்றுமுகம்/வாழ்வே மாயம் நியூ சினிமாவில் என்றும் 1980 ஸ்ல மதுரைப்பற்றிப்பேசும் டைரெகடருக்கு தெரிந்து இருக்கனும்.
இவர் நிச்சயம் மதுரைக்காரராக இருக்க முடியாது!
முரட்டுக்காளையை எப்படி செண்ட்ரலில் காட்டலாம்? It is silly but I find that as a BIG MISTAKE
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From: bingleguy on 28th September 2008 08:52 AM [Full View]
well ... this is not a negligible thing ......... oru movie release aanadhai kaaturadhu indha padathula nichayamaa yosichu dhaan senjiruppaanga ..... but ivvalavu per sollum podhu - its an expensive mistake nnu dhaan solla thonradhu !!!!
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From: VENKIRAJA on 28th September 2008 10:30 AM [Full View]
//Sri aNNA...avatar //
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From: selvakumar on 28th September 2008 11:50 AM [Full View]
LM,
Thanks for the correction. I might be wrong. But phone nnu kettathaa nyabagam. let me check it out.
nandri Joe & PR
yaarah sollureenga :P Ulkuthaa.. Originally Posted by Sridhar
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From: VENKIRAJA on 28th September 2008 11:53 AM [Full View]
[quote="selvakumar"]LM,
Thanks for the correction. I might be wrong. But phone nnu kettathaa nyabagam. let me check it out.
I believe LM was right.
review! :P
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 12:04 PM [Full View]
Yes, Selva. She talks about the picture after Azhagar picked her up from the college and meets her in a remote temple. She even shows the picture she cut it off from the newspaper.
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 12:07 PM [Full View]
That was not a costly mistake. The Central theater which was shown still looks like a 80s theater, looks no renovation done so far, that should be the reason for Sasi to use that theater. illainA set pOda vEndi irukkum. Originally Posted by bingleguy
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From: NOV on 28th September 2008 01:26 PM [Full View]
Any news on the team's next movie?
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From: sarna_blr on 28th September 2008 01:28 PM [Full View]
budget problemaaa Originally Posted by MrJudge
That was not a costly mistake. The Central theater which was shown still looks like a 80s theater, looks no renovation done so far, that should be the reason for Sasi to use that theater. illainA set pOda vEndi irukkum. Originally Posted by bingleguy
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From: littlemaster1982 on 28th September 2008 01:43 PM [Full View]
Check panni sollunga :P Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: selvakumar on 28th September 2008 03:30 PM [Full View]
Pannunavar.. theatre pera maathirukkalaam.. illena padatha maathi irukkalaam.. theatre maari set poda romba selvu aagaathunnu nenaikiraen.. I liked the theatre that was shown in Veyyil. Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 05:53 PM [Full View]
If the theater was renamed, then Madurai people will shout "ennAdA poo suththareenga". avarukku 'murattu kALai' padam opening show kAmikkaNum avvallu thAn. vEnummnA sakalakalA vallavan kAmichchirukkalAm, but he may be a Rajini fan... who knows. This is a fiction and not based on a real life story, so why worry about these minute details? Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: selvakumar on 28th September 2008 06:11 PM [Full View]
See - we can easily move away by saying that this is a fiction and we shouldn't worry about the minute details. But his target is giving a film set in the 80s. People who have knowledge about that period might not remember or care about small things. However, any major change like theater or film will be easily observed by them (like rajini fans noticing the theater name). Kurai iruppathai pathi sollurathula enna thappu ? Moreover, no one is complaining on that. Just that he could have done it little more better Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 06:23 PM [Full View]
thappu onnum illa Selva. AnA ithu oru chinna vishayam avvaluv thAn. enna paNNinAlum madurakkArangalukku mattum thAn viththiyAsam theriyum, maththavangalukku theriya pOrathu illa, so Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: selvakumar on 28th September 2008 06:29 PM [Full View]
I agree. But I thought a clear solution was available for that. Hence, I thought why he missed this one. Originally Posted by MrJudge
thappu onnum illa Selva. AnA ithu oru chinna vishayam avvaluv thAn. enna paNNinAlum madurakkArangalukku mattum thAn viththiyAsam theriyum, maththavangalukku theriya pOrathu illa, so
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From: HonestRaj on 28th September 2008 06:45 PM [Full View]
one similar thing I want to add: Originally Posted by selvakumar
I agree. But I thought a clear solution was available for that. Hence, I thought why he missed this one. Originally Posted by MrJudge
thappu onnum illa Selva. AnA ithu oru chinna vishayam avvaluv thAn. enna paNNinAlum madurakkArangalukku mattum thAn viththiyAsam theriyum, maththavangalukku theriya pOrathu illa, so
"Arul" film happens in Coimbatore.... aana Hari, oru sila main roads thavira coimbatore-aye kattalai.... even the song "ukkadathu pappadame" was taken in a set similar to how the area looks like (i think it is Town Hall). But Arul is not a "kalai" padam.. so no one would have bothered about that.
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From: sarna_blr on 28th September 2008 06:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
one similar thing I want to add: Originally Posted by selvakumar
I agree. But I thought a clear solution was available for that. Hence, I thought why he missed this one. Originally Posted by MrJudge
thappu onnum illa Selva. AnA ithu oru chinna vishayam avvaluv thAn. enna paNNinAlum madurakkArangalukku mattum thAn viththiyAsam theriyum, maththavangalukku theriya pOrathu illa, so
"Arul" film happens in Coimbatore.... aana Hari, oru sila main roads thavira coimbatore-aye kattalai.... even the song "ukkadathu pappadame" was taken in a set similar to how the area looks like (i think it is Town Hall). But Arul is not a "kalai" padam.. so no one would have bothered about that. Subramanyapuram kalaippadamaa
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From: HonestRaj on 28th September 2008 06:50 PM [Full View]
kalai means art ... Sasi wants recreate the 80's ... but for Hari its a film happening in Cbe. Thats it.
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From: sarna_blr on 28th September 2008 06:52 PM [Full View]
pudhiya kandupidippu Originally Posted by HonestRaj
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 07:10 PM [Full View]
What if the Central theater people not agreed to change the theater name in the movie because they allowed the dir to have his shooting in their place, so they might have requested him to keep their theater name. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Also if Sasi wanted to have a Rajni starred movie opening show and Central was the only option he had....
Someone even raised a doubt that (because of this mistake) he is not even from Madurai. He is from Madurai and he did his schooling in Kodaikalal (St.Peters) where he met James Vasanthan. He should be very well aware of these theaters but with the limited available options, he went ahead with Central running murattu kALai.
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From: thamiz on 28th September 2008 09:22 PM [Full View]
Please stop this justification of why he did and what is the need for it and all sort of BS. Originally Posted by MrJudge
What if the Central theater people not agreed to change the theater name in the movie because they allowed the dir to have his shooting in their place, so they might have requested him to keep their theater name. Originally Posted by selvakumar
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We don’t care about the reason for showing it in central!
The bottomline is:
The fact is manipulated and it is a goof and some of us finding it as a BIG MISTAKE!
It is unnecessary to go on defending why sasi did and all that!
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From: rajasaranam on 28th September 2008 09:46 PM [Full View]
We need not harp upon whether showing a Rajini movie in 'Central' was logical or not, The fact is he recreated the 80's ambiance in the movie and got it 100% right. The fact about 'madurai'/'Central' will be little known to the millions of people outside that district.
Itha poi oru Big misteeknnu sound vudravangala neenga ellam vanthu 'subramaniapuram'ndra oorla intha mathiri oru kathai nadakkave illainnu solveenga poala
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From: thamiz on 28th September 2008 10:10 PM [Full View]
So what? Originally Posted by rajasaranam
That is a fact!
It is a goof!
If you care less, fine!
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From: Nerd on 28th September 2008 10:23 PM [Full View]
வார்த்தைகளின் உச்சரிப்பில் கூட! அமீரும் பாலாஜி சக்திவேலும் நம்மை மதுரைக்கே அழைத்துச் சென்றார்கள். இந்தப்படதில் ஜெய்க்கு சுத்தமாக மதுரைப் பேச்சு வரவில்லை. அது மிகப்பெரும் நெருடலாக இருந்தது. அவர் கதாபாத்திரத்துடன் நம்மை ஒன்ற விடாமல் செய்தது. Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: joe on 28th September 2008 10:50 PM [Full View]
Kadalora kavithaigal padathula Muttom Railway Station kaattuvaanga ..In reality ,there is no railway station in Muttom Originally Posted by HonestRaj
one similar thing I want to add: Originally Posted by selvakumar
I agree. But I thought a clear solution was available for that. Hence, I thought why he missed this one. Originally Posted by MrJudge
thappu onnum illa Selva. AnA ithu oru chinna vishayam avvaluv thAn. enna paNNinAlum madurakkArangalukku mattum thAn viththiyAsam theriyum, maththavangalukku theriya pOrathu illa, so
"Arul" film happens in Coimbatore.... aana Hari, oru sila main roads thavira coimbatore-aye kattalai.... even the song "ukkadathu pappadame" was taken in a set similar to how the area looks like (i think it is Town Hall). But Arul is not a "kalai" padam.. so no one would have bothered about that.
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From: ajithfederer on 28th September 2008 11:11 PM [Full View]
eppo irundhu neenga Taamill-la ellam post panreenga?? :P
Originally Posted by Nerd
வார்த்தைகளின் உச்சரிப்பில் கூட! அமீரும் பாலாஜி சக்திவேலும் நம்மை மதுரைக்கே அழைத்துச் சென்றார்கள். இந்தப்படதில் ஜெய்க்கு சுத்தமாக மதுரைப் பேச்சு வரவில்லை. அது மிகப்பெரும் நெருடலாக இருந்தது. அவர் கதாபாத்திரத்துடன் நம்மை ஒன்ற விடாமல் செய்தது. Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: MrJudge on 28th September 2008 11:47 PM [Full View]
The justification came out because you raised doubts about his Madurai connection. yEnga, ungalukkE therimpOthu avarukku theriyAmaiyA pOgum, athu enna cithambara ragasiyamA?? Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 12:06 AM [Full View]
Your assumtion is BAD! Originally Posted by MrJudge
The justification came out because you raised doubts about his Madurai connection. yEnga, ungalukkE therimpOthu avarukku theriyAmaiyA pOgum, athu enna cithambara ragasiyamA?? Originally Posted by thamiz
You only can say what you know and you should not say what others would have known for sure!
Anybody can overlook some details.
The reasor for my suspicion of "his madurai nativity" is due to the lack of "madurai slang or pronunciation" as Nerd has pointed out!
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 12:11 AM [Full View]
Very true nerd! Originally Posted by Nerd
வார்த்தைகளின் உச்சரிப்பில் கூட! அமீரும் பாலாஜி சக்திவேலும் நம்மை மதுரைக்கே அழைத்துச் சென்றார்கள். இந்தப்படதில் ஜெய்க்கு சுத்தமாக மதுரைப் பேச்சு வரவில்லை. அது மிகப்பெரும் நெருடலாக இருந்தது. அவர் கதாபாத்திரத்துடன் நம்மை ஒன்ற விடாமல் செய்தது. Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: MrJudge on 29th September 2008 12:24 AM [Full View]
I don't think my assumption can be that BAD, when you assume like "இவர் நிச்சயம் மதுரைக்காரராக இருக்க முடியாது!". Originally Posted by thamiz
Anyway lets leave this issue.
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 01:47 AM [Full View]
avanavan muzu soathula poosanikka sizekku loophole vechu padam kaattitu thiriyaraam - adhellam kaekaradhukku aale illai.
Oru aalu nalla padam eduththuda koodaadhae!
porukkaadhae!!
"Paatu ezudhi paer vaangum pulavargal irukkiraargal, Kutram kandupidiththu paer vaangum pulavargalum irukkiraargal.
Sirikkaadheergal - idhil neengal endha vagai endru umakkae theriyum"
Thanks to Nagesh, APN from Thiruvilayaadal.
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 03:29 AM [Full View]
Are you saying we should not criticize or comment on the flaws in a movie? Originally Posted by jaiganes
Only you can talk about the NaCl thingy in dasavatharam?
You could have said yourself the same thing when you did that.There are 100s of worse moveis than 10A as well.
Why the hell you never talked about them, may I know?
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 03:34 AM [Full View]
Certainly my assumption is bad after learning that he was livingin madurai in 1980. Originally Posted by MrJudge
How old is he, anyway?
And you can go on act like sasikumar himself and think your assumptions are Good!
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 03:57 AM [Full View]
What is this supposed to mean? Originally Posted by jaiganes
I cant believe you talk nonsense like this!
Goofs have been listed even for academy award winners like Godfather too!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/goofs
There is nothing wrong in talking about the goofs and commenting on the flaws!
Please cut the CRAP!
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 06:44 AM [Full View]
This 'goof' is as small as a grain of powdered salt. If you had said something qualitatively about the movie - then I wouldn't have objected. As far as the Na Cl thingy - I never said anything bad about the concept (event the telescopic microscope) - my grouse is only against the execution. And my post is intended to be genuinely humorous - not to call you names and warrant a serious post of anger from you. With a little sense of humour everyone can get along pretty well.. thats my thought anyways.. Originally Posted by thamiz
What is this supposed to mean? Originally Posted by jaiganes
I cant believe you talk nonsense like this!
Goofs have been listed even for academy award winners like Godfather too!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/goofs
There is nothing wrong in talking about the goofs and commenting on the flaws!
Please cut the CRAP!
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 06:54 AM [Full View]
Jaiganesh: Originally Posted by jaiganes
Have you ever lived in madurai?
Do you know what I mean by "madurai slang"?
Please, please dont expect your perspective in my posts too!
You can be humorous or sarcastic and whatever way you want to be.
Let me be what I am! Let me tell what I feel about the movie, please!
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 07:10 AM [Full View]
Fine! I accept that I have mistook your valid concerns for rants!! Originally Posted by thamiz
Jaiganesh: Originally Posted by jaiganes
Have you ever lived in madurai?
Do you know what I mean by "madurai slang"?
Please, please dont expect your perspective in my posts too!
You can be humorous or sarcastic and whatever way you want to be.
Let me be what I am! Let me tell what I feel about the movie, please!
I apologize!
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 07:59 AM [Full View]
jaiganesh:
There is no need for apology and all.
I have nothing against this sasi kumar. My concern was genuine, and that is why my over-reaction.
Take it easy!
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From: sarna_blr on 29th September 2008 09:00 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
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From: MrJudge on 29th September 2008 11:42 AM [Full View]
Thanks for your parantha manasu Originally Posted by thamiz
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From: rajasaranam on 29th September 2008 12:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by jaiganes
romba kusumbu'nga ungalukku
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 01:31 PM [Full View]
dho paarunga! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Originally Posted by jaiganes
romba kusumbu'nga ungalukku
indha vambe venaam!!
naan full-stop poatta comma aakka paakarengale!!
idhu nyaayama?
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From: Anban on 29th September 2008 04:05 PM [Full View]
oh cool.. my enemies are fighting among themselves..
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 29th September 2008 04:06 PM [Full View]
su.pu paathacha? Originally Posted by Anban
oh cool.. my enemies are fighting among themselves..
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From: selvakumar on 29th September 2008 04:10 PM [Full View]
After reading the discussion, I fully agree with thamiz
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 04:18 PM [Full View]
Anbe sivam!!! Originally Posted by Anban
oh cool.. my enemies are fighting among themselves..
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From: P_R on 29th September 2008 04:21 PM [Full View]
It is true that they didn't nail the accent in this film (though Sasikumar himself spoke reasonably well). But I don't accent is the only problem in Jai's voice - just not expressive enough - felt that even in Chennai-28. aduththa padaththai paarppOm.
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 04:25 PM [Full View]
I guess the thought was probably to get an guy with good eyes and clean white smile and he fit that part rather well - for the glancing and love lorn young guy. his transformation into a toughie was not so convincing. but it worked well. He redeemed it in the final act though. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 04:40 PM [Full View]
I agree. In Chennai-28, his spot-on accent worked big time. You've to see him in his interviews. The only language this guy can speak is Madras Thamizh. Talking of James Vasanthan in one of his interviews, he said, "podhuva music director 'nAlE, enakku allu utturum..." Or something along these lines. Never seen a film personality say that so spontaneously on television. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
In any case, I've bigger problems with this film. It's a film which wants to just loiter around until it's time to pull out twists to invoke the adolescent tragedy of betrayal of one's louu, visuvAsam etc. An elegiac portrait of beaten-to-death clichés at best.
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 04:44 PM [Full View]
As far as the second part of your post goes, yeah pretty much like people's lives ain't it? Originally Posted by equanimus
I agree. In Chennai-28, his spot-on accent worked big time. You've to see him in his interviews. The only language this guy can speak is Madras Thamizh. Talking of James Vasanthan in one of his interviews, he said, "podhuva music director 'nAlE, enakku allu utturum..." Or something along these lines. Never seen a film personality say that so spontaneously on television. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
In any case, I've bigger problems with this film. It's a film which wants to just loiter around until it's time to pull out twists to invoke the adolescent tragedy of betrayal of one's louu, visuvAsam etc. An elegiac portrait of beaten-to-death clichés at best.
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From: rangan_08 on 29th September 2008 04:54 PM [Full View]
Well, he's not alone. He's got a partner. Originally Posted by equanimus
Latest " Coffee with Anu " with Saroja team. When asked how he freezed on Jayaram, VP replied, " Avar veetukulla pogumbodhey enakku allu kazhand.....", then suddenly he sort of realised it and switched over to speak normally.
AFA TV interview is concerned, only a few tamil actors come to my mind who give quality answers in an interesting manner.
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 05:55 PM [Full View]
Jaiganes, Originally Posted by jaiganes
As far as the second part of your post goes, yeah pretty much like people's lives ain't it? Originally Posted by equanimus
Being "pretty much like people's lives" hardly make any film a good one. Any work of art is about "presenting the truth." There are several filmmakers in Tamil cinema now who have their task cut out -- to capture the "truth" of our people (I'd go as far to say that this is the latest fad in the town, to make realistic cinema), but only a precious few engage with the truth they represent in meaningful ways. Rest of them, they just regurgitate broad clichés and easily understood stereotypes. It makes me cringe that films like 'subramaNiyapuram' that are hollow exercises in macho posturing (I'd couple it with 'paruththivIran' in this vein) until they exclaim, "surprise!" and pull a final act of deliverance, receive such critical acclaim.
When I watch a film, I expect at least a few moments of revelation, about the characters, about their condition, about the setting, etc. Something that informs me of things I didn't know. Not just some barrage of twists that I didn't see coming. Nothing bores me more than recycling clichés, and I mean that in all seriousness.
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From: thamiz on 29th September 2008 07:41 PM [Full View]
Thanks, Selva! Originally Posted by selvakumar
After reading the discussion, I fully agree with thamiz
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From: VENKIRAJA on 29th September 2008 07:42 PM [Full View]
"allu kalakkum!"-I believe. :P Originally Posted by equanimus
I agree. In Chennai-28, his spot-on accent worked big time. You've to see him in his interviews. The only language this guy can speak is Madras Thamizh. Talking of James Vasanthan in one of his interviews, he said, "podhuva music director 'nAlE, enakku allu utturum..." Or something along these lines. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
mgb ganesh(theivamE) might help!
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 08:27 PM [Full View]
Venkiraja, Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
I didn't get you. Are you talking about that interview of Jai?
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From: VENKIRAJA on 29th September 2008 08:29 PM [Full View]
Funny indeed Originally Posted by equanimus
Venkiraja, Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
I didn't get you. Are you talking about that interview of Jai?
It was "I didn't get you" every time.indha muRai neenga solliyirukeenga!
Yeah,you said 'or something along these lines'.I believe its not 'utturum' and is 'kalakkum.'
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 08:43 PM [Full View]
No, I got that. I was asking whether you have seen that interview. Or, was that a general comment on what the right expression is?
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From: VENKIRAJA on 29th September 2008 08:47 PM [Full View]
I watched his Sun TV interview and the Coffee with anu episodes.All those guys were speaking PROPER madras thamizh. :P I heard something like this in CWA also.Is your quote from that program? Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 08:55 PM [Full View]
sariyA nyAbagam illai, but it wasn't Coffee With Anu. One of those special shows about the film. nAn En kettEn 'nA, "allu udum" 'nra solvazhakku(m) sari dhAnE. Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
I watched his Sun TV interview and the Coffee with anu episodes.All those guys were speaking PROPER madras thamizh. :P I heard something like this in CWA also.Is your quote from that program? Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 29th September 2008 09:24 PM [Full View]
8 years in Madras and I haven't heard that expression - either version of it. Quite clearly I have been mingling with the wrong types.
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From: equanimus on 29th September 2008 09:40 PM [Full View]
>>Digr.
எனுக்கு அல்லு உட்டுடுச்சு - I got sh*t scared. Next time kEkkumpOdhu, correct'A sollaNum. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<<End digr.
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From: complicateur on 29th September 2008 09:46 PM [Full View]
Presenting the truth takes an understanding of its workings. I've only seen a very poor online version of the movie so I wont pass judgment on it, but the movie seemed to resonate with Balaji Sakthivel (on KwA), who said it reminded him of how some of his friends were exploited in Madurai. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 29th September 2008 10:15 PM [Full View]
ஞாபகம் வெச்சுகறேன் ....நானும் எங்கயாவது அட்சி உட்டுறேன் ஹெய்ஹெய்ஹெய் Originally Posted by equanimus
>>Digr.
எனுக்கு அல்லு உட்டுடுச்சு - I got sh*t scared. Next time kEkkumpOdhu, correct'A sollaNum. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<<End digr.
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From: crajkumar_be on 29th September 2008 10:33 PM [Full View]
Valid forms of the expression are 'allu illa' , 'allu uttukuchu' or 'allu kazhandiruchu'
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From: Vivasaayi on 29th September 2008 10:36 PM [Full View]
examiner vandhappa allilla maapu Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: jaiganes on 29th September 2008 10:43 PM [Full View]
I felt that it did not paint a broad cliche - probably i am a naieve viewer- easily fooled. But make no mistake - I am not from that part of the world (South TN) and it did present a good view of the people and their lives. The movie did it well without explicitly invoking caste issues and still it conveyed the point on exploitation. No one has a moral high ground (even the girl) at the end and it shows in a stark way the 'exploitation' aspect and still maintains a good graph on the entertainment aspect. Special mention on two characters I should make - Samuthirak kani's Kanagu and the elder brother (who works in collector office). They are a study in contrast and the characterisation of the three brothers of a family involved in a game of political one upmanship and manipulation is very apt and definitely not a broad cliche (Otherwise they would hav come across like chinnathambi Kushboo brothers trio). The 'exploited' gang is also not shown to be innocent as lamb and that adds more credibility to the characterisation and the plot. Personally it was a more satisfying piece of cinema of the recent past! Mise en scene - to visualisation to acting to screenplay. While you can fine minor sour points here and there - in general it is a big leap in quality - It did not create a ripple as big as Sethu in its emotional impact (because of the dark nature of the central protagonists), however its success inspires a lot of confidence in sincere film makers who want to make 'their' own kind of cinema - that is open to man interpretations and truly independant. Originally Posted by equanimus
Jaiganes, Originally Posted by jaiganes
As far as the second part of your post goes, yeah pretty much like people's lives ain't it? Originally Posted by equanimus
Being "pretty much like people's lives" hardly make any film a good one. Any work of art is about "presenting the truth." There are several filmmakers in Tamil cinema now who have their task cut out -- to capture the "truth" of our people (I'd go as far to say that this is the latest fad in the town, to make realistic cinema), but only a precious few engage with the truth they represent in meaningful ways. Rest of them, they just regurgitate broad clichés and easily understood stereotypes. It makes me cringe that films like 'subramaNiyapuram' that are hollow exercises in macho posturing (I'd couple it with 'paruththivIran' in this vein) until they exclaim, "surprise!" and pull a final act of deliverance, receive such critical acclaim.
When I watch a film, I expect at least a few moments of revelation, about the characters, about their condition, about the setting, etc. Something that informs me of things I didn't know. Not just some barrage of twists that I didn't see coming. Nothing bores me more than recycling clichés, and I mean that in all seriousness.
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From: equanimus on 1st October 2008 02:05 AM [Full View]
Spoilers alert.
Jaiganes, Originally Posted by jaiganes
One of the the key motifs of the film that I'm referring to as a big cliché is the almost orgasmic portrayal of the adolescent love between the lead pair and the tragedy it invokes out of the eventual betrayal. Whenever Azhagar meets Thulasi, all he does is go on and on about how he trusts her and her love. (So much that, at some point, he even mentions that he doesn't carry 'poruL' when he comes to meet her!) In essence, with these scenes, the film never tires of telling the audience about how much he loves and trusts her, and how Paraman keeps warning him about it. And, we're expected to "get" how terrible it would be if this is going to prove too costly to him. Tch, tch, poor fellow fell in love with a girl who's not of the kind that would remain faithful to a man's love come what may. A deep personal tragedy indeed.
Jokes aside, the whole scheme is perfectly designed to climax out in this manner. The boy keeps saying he trusts her so much, the girl keeps crying and pleading with him for more trust. One fine day, she changes her mind, and lo, what a tragedy. A sort of elegy that reminds me of the one-liners about 'kAdhal' and 'peN' on the back of some autos.
By the way, do read Charu Niveditha's take on the film which elaborates on some of its themes, if you already haven't.
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From: equanimus on 1st October 2008 02:07 AM [Full View]
Complicateur, Originally Posted by complicateur
Presenting the truth takes an understanding of its workings. I've only seen a very poor online version of the movie so I wont pass judgment on it, but the movie seemed to resonate with Balaji Sakthivel (on KwA), who said it reminded him of how some of his friends were exploited in Madurai. Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes, I saw that episode of Coffee With Anu too. Even Bala seems to have liked this film a lot.
Incidentally, Balaji Sakthivel's 'kAdhal' superbly examines the various clichés associated with any elopement story by putting them in all in the film; including the one ("the one-liners about 'kAdhal' and 'peN' on the back of some autos") I've ranted about in my previous post.
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From: thamiz on 1st October 2008 07:54 AM [Full View]
It is unfortunate you need to quote the "low-class" critic's review! Originally Posted by equanimus
I made the same mistake when I read about dasavatharam review and I thoguht he was genuine.
//digression
later after reading someof his third-rated stories which contains lots of adult language and vulgar language despite the fact that he does not have a disclaimer for his site saying it is appropriate only for 21 plus,. I seriously believe we need to ignore this guy's site and he should be warned seriously by tamilnadu govt for his outrageous writings!///
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From: equanimus on 1st October 2008 09:04 AM [Full View]
Thamiz,
I guess you chose not to read the review, which is fine. If you do read it, I think you'd understand why I quoted it.
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From: rangan_08 on 1st October 2008 10:11 AM [Full View]
Nice review, and that too from CN !!! Surprising. Originally Posted by equanimus
Ore oru nerudal - he cautions Ameer not to watch world cinema but at the same time indulges to quote from Kieslowski's film. But, that's CN, afterall.
Otherwise good review, should read it again. Thanks eq.
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From: complicateur on 1st October 2008 10:15 AM [Full View]
Have to agree with you regarding kaadhal equanimus. Works on so many levels. Its been a while since I saw it - a revisit is in order. Subramaniyapuram somehow seemed to me a cautionary tale - one that suggests the ephemeral nature of what was defined as "louu" (such a nice term for what passes as love) and friendship. Originally Posted by equanimus
Complicateur, Originally Posted by complicateur
Presenting the truth takes an understanding of its workings. I've only seen a very poor online version of the movie so I wont pass judgment on it, but the movie seemed to resonate with Balaji Sakthivel (on KwA), who said it reminded him of how some of his friends were exploited in Madurai. Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes, I saw that episode of Coffee With Anu too. Even Bala seems to have liked this film a lot.
Incidentally, Balaji Sakthivel's 'kAdhal' superbly examines the various clichés associated with any elopement story by putting them in all in the film; including the one ("the one-liners about 'kAdhal' and 'peN' on the back of some autos") I've ranted about in my previous post.
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 12:15 AM [Full View]
yes I do. Thanks anyway! Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 12:19 AM [Full View]
Yeah he will caution everybody but he does not even know thamiz cinema properly. he wrote in a critical review that aadaludan paadalai kEttu song is from enga vIttup iLLai. Originally Posted by rangan_08
he will also talk about world cinema as if he is the authority for that!
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From: P_R on 2nd October 2008 12:37 AM [Full View]
His film reviews are quite funny. While trying to write about faarin films, he will suddenly say something like இதை காமிராவில் டாப்-ஆங்கிளில் காட்டியிருப்பார்கள். technical-A ezhudhurAraamaam. Not as if such a things shouldn't be written - but the way he puts it, one can see it coming across as oh-so-fake.
And...it will be invariably followed by a tirade of the lack of culture among Tamils.
Always reminds me of Senthil's comment on GM in Mahaprabhu no decent... no culture
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 12:46 AM [Full View]
He is a pervert and he is proud of being one! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
There is nothing wrong in that as long as he does not poison the society.
* He is polluting the under-aged tamils by writing inappropriate things!
* he is abusing the "freedom of writing" and "rights of a writer".
* Something needs to be done about him for his uncultured writing in tamil!
We shoul dbe ashamed of having a tamil writer like this!
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From: selvakumar on 2nd October 2008 11:20 AM [Full View]
When I was in chennai, I read few pages of his book "Zero degree". Read his another book also (again only few pages). Before that, I thought he writes *like that* in online only. But after reading few pages, I confirmed that it is his style of writing. And he criticizes kalki's works as commercial *kilu kiluppus" Originally Posted by thamiz
Prabu - top angle
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From: equanimus on 2nd October 2008 06:13 PM [Full View]
nAsamAp pOchchu! yArumE kadaisi varai avar review'vai padikkalaiyA? :P
Anyway, I quoted it because his reading of the film and its motifs comes pretty close to what all I've talked (complained, that is) about the film in this thread, except that the our respective reactions are absolutely at odds with each other. What a cheerfully misogynistic review. Amazing, really.
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
His film reviews are quite funny. While trying to write about faarin films, he will suddenly say something like இதை காமிராவில் டாப்-ஆங்கிளில் காட்டியிருப்பார்கள். technical-A ezhudhurAraamaam. Not as if such a things shouldn't be written - but the way he puts it, one can see it coming across as oh-so-fake.
And...it will be invariably followed by a tirade of the lack of culture among Tamils.
Always reminds me of Senthil's comment on GM in Mahaprabhu no decent... no culture I must confess I always get a sense of genuine perverse pleasure when I read his reviews. I'm serious. Only Suhasini manages to amaze me (even if not to the same extent) the way he does.
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From: kannannn on 2nd October 2008 06:50 PM [Full View]
Enna thamiz, pOtturalAmA? Originally Posted by thamiz
* Something needs to be done about him for his uncultured writing in tamil!
We shoul dbe ashamed of having a tamil writer like this!
Seriously, avar eppadi ezhudhina namakkenna? Why should anything be done to him?
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From: selvakumar on 2nd October 2008 08:10 PM [Full View]
Thanks Prabhu
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From: P_R on 2nd October 2008 08:19 PM [Full View]
செல்வா, perverse, என்ற சொல்லுக்கு 'எதிர்மறையான' அப்பிடிங்கிறது தான் பொருள். 'Unintended' அப்படின்னும் அர்த்தப்படுத்திக்கலாம். சாம் ஆண்டர்ஸன்/ டி.ராஜேந்தர் ரசிகர்களைப் போல
To call something 'perverse' definitionally means we call something 'right'. i.e. existing social mores. This is what CN claims he wants to attack through his writing.
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From: selvakumar on 2nd October 2008 08:26 PM [Full View]
oh ! Vazhakkam pola dictionary la paarthu verify pannittaen.. Eppavu pannurathu... ithula maranthuttaenசெல்வா, perverse, என்ற சொல்லுக்கு 'எதிர்மறையான' அப்பிடிங்கிறது தான் பொருள். 'Unintended' அப்படின்னும் அர்த்தப்படுத்திக்கலாம். சாம் ஆண்டர்ஸன்/ டி.ராஜேந்தர் ரசிகர்களைப் போல Thanks
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From: complicateur on 2nd October 2008 09:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
இதை காமிராவில் டாப்-ஆங்கிளில் காட்டியிருப்பார்கள். technical-A ezhudhurAraamaam. Not as if such a things shouldn't be written - but the way he puts it, one can see it coming across as oh-so-fake.[/i] Dharumiyaaga Nagesh solraapla "kuttram kandu pidiththae peyar vaangum" pulvaro-nnu thoNum.
equanimus: Naan athai munnaadiye padichchirunthen. It just seemed like an re-exposition of some vignettes followed by some commonly prevalent ideas on the movie (of course this might also be because it was one of the last few articles I read on the movie). The end about Madurai-kkaaranga and keezhath-Thanjaik kaaranga ellaam remba over. Originally Posted by equanimus
Ellaaththodayum best-u, Cheeni Kum paaththuttu he wrote an article asking Vasanthabaalan to make a movie starring himself in an age appropriate role.
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From: ajithfederer on 2nd October 2008 09:54 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kannannn
Originally Posted by kannannn
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 10:01 PM [Full View]
kannan! Originally Posted by kannannn
Enna thamiz, pOtturalAmA? Originally Posted by thamiz
* Something needs to be done about him for his uncultured writing in tamil!
We shoul dbe ashamed of having a tamil writer like this!
Seriously, avar eppadi ezhudhina namakkenna? Why should anything be done to him?
I think we need to talk about this!
He wrote a letter to kanimozhi lately saying that she took kids to watch the movie kuselan.
He was pretending like he cares about the society and kids!
Fine, I would respect the letter ONLY if he adds a disclaimer to his site saying that "it is appropriate ONLY for mature audience and if you are less than 21, please keep away and my site contains adult language"
Is he worried about ths society??!!
I am seriously concerned about his language. I f you wish read his kuttikkathai 56 and 57 and educate yourself waht I really mean here!
His site is not appropriate for all audience and he is indeed abusing the net-freedom and writing adult content where even children are free to enter!
I cant believe you try to justify his writing, Kannan!!!
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 10:04 PM [Full View]
Honestly I dont see why not?! Originally Posted by kannannn
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 10:27 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kannannn
If I write a story inhis style, I can- I am serious and publish it in hub tamil literature, I will be seriously warned to mind my words and, my story will be removed and I will be banned.
You understand what I mean?
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From: thamizhvaanan on 2nd October 2008 11:22 PM [Full View]
"allu kelambiduchu" is also a correct usage among urban culturati :P Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: VENKIRAJA on 2nd October 2008 11:32 PM [Full View]
Exactly my thoughts.Such a stupid writer...he once wrote about drinking and staying with naked women in kumudam(kONal pakkangaL) Originally Posted by thamiz
He is a pervert and he is proud of being one! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
There is nothing wrong in that as long as he does not poison the society.
* He is polluting the under-aged tamils by writing inappropriate things!
* he is abusing the "freedom of writing" and "rights of a writer".
* Something needs to be done about him for his uncultured writing in tamil!
We shoul dbe ashamed of having a tamil writer like this! Crook.
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From: thamiz on 2nd October 2008 11:56 PM [Full View]
digression
///I exactly know what he is doing. He purposely introuces some phrases to attract perverted minds. Originally Posted by selvakumar
When I was in chennai, I read few pages of his book "Zero degree". Read his another book also (again only few pages). Before that, I thought he writes *like that* in online only. But after reading few pages, I confirmed that it is his style of writing. And he criticizes kalki's works as commercial *kilu kiluppus" Originally Posted by thamiz
Prabu - top angle
Equanimus and selva love it, Great!
I dont have a problem as they are old enough to know what to take and what not to!
But, it is not appropriate for all age-group! Why the hell he cant have a disclaimer? Even when you are starting a blog, you can include that option> he purposely does not do that.
he wants the under-aged punks and curious minds to come and read his crap! That is why he does not use the disclaimer. And he is acting like he is worried about the kids! That is the joke there!
And he criticizes everybody. It is funny to see people are becoming sensitive if I criticize him! We should destroy his "reputation" by bringing out his uncultured thought. It is our responsibility!
he dates under-aged girls and he is pollting everything and his writing is the worst weapon!
And he is not janakiraman if he thinks of himself as so. No serious messages or anything is there in his short stories! He is self-proclaimed uncultured cheap writer! Nowhere near by writere like TJR///
digression ends!
let me stop this here and I will take him on elsewhere!
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 12:11 AM [Full View]
Complicateur, Originally Posted by complicateur
I completely agree. My comment was with respect to whatever he had to say about the film outside the usual stock (the scenes description, the ulaga cinema detours etc.) in his film reviews. This was one review that went beyond showering all the standard praises on the film and praise it for the almost the same reasons for which I disliked it. The way he quotes Nietzsche and all... it freaked me out!
There was a thread here where there was a mini Charu Niveditha bash-up session (and yours truly did participate, of course) digressing from the original topic. (Hope this one doesn't go that way.)
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 12:22 AM [Full View]
Thamiz, Originally Posted by thamiz
Equanimus and selva love it, Great!
AhA! Please read through my posts again.
And, by the way, I've not read any of his stories, kuru-novels or what have you. (adhu vERayA!) Film reviews padichchirukkEn. asandhu pOyirukkEn. :P ungaLOda kOvam edhanAl enRu theriyAdhu. So, don't want to comment. That is all.
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 12:30 AM [Full View]
makkaLE,
Now I'm seriously perplexed! Was it not apparent enough that I was only expressing my contempt for Charu Niveditha's review of the film?
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From: Nerd on 3rd October 2008 12:41 AM [Full View]
uLLEn ayyA (one of the makkaLs)
When I read this statement of yours I thought you are bringing him to support your side :P Originally Posted by equanimus
PS: I have not read his review, have not read any of his other reviews either.
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From: complicateur on 3rd October 2008 12:59 AM [Full View]
Actually this is what tipped me off. I realised you both saw the same things and had polar opposite reactions. Ironic, considering CN positions himself as a sexual liberal et al. But back to Subramaniyapuram. Originally Posted by equanimus
I guess the argument to be posed is: Is the nihilism (I mean in the movie) directed towards women or the concept of "louu" as seen by those characters? The subtext I saw was - the relationships we perceive, especially if they are setup in the same way as the movie, are just heading in the general direction of disappointment. I think the Azhagar-Paramar "friendship" is the only caveat and even that is completely misguided (case in point Paramar's reaction to his friend's death).
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 01:01 AM [Full View]
Oh, is it? But my not qualifying the pointer towards his review with my thoughts about it was actually intentional. Somehow, it just didn't sound right; thought folks should read it for themselves. (Of course, I was reminded of it at first place because I was placing my criticisms about the very same aspects of the film for which he had lofty praise.) Originally Posted by Nerd
uLLEn ayyA (one of the makkaLs)
When I read this statement of yours I thought you are bringing him to support your side :P Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: thamiz on 3rd October 2008 01:33 AM [Full View]
equanimus!
There is nothing wrong with your post. It is me, who hates CN, that is all!
I understand your post very well.
The whole thing I am talking is not against your views and there is nothing wrong in taking a anybody's review as long as it is sensible!
I have serious problems with CN and his criticisms, reviews, comments and his hwole blog as he braggs about himself often and always reveal only the complimetns he receive and when he is saying that I loved reading something like a "porn-story" of that nonsense!
He never fogets to kiss MK's bottom either for his survival! And his tanjoor origin bs is another thing!
Anyway, he may have written a great review and it may be very sensible, I just want to ignore it as I hate him as a person as well as as a writer and a critic!
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From: thamiz on 3rd October 2008 01:37 AM [Full View]
There is a difference between sexual liberals and what charu nivedita really is. he is sick and his sickness is misinterepreted as "sexual liberal or such bs"! Originally Posted by complicateur
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 03:25 AM [Full View]
Fair question to ask, Complicateur. But, one only has to look at how the film stages these "disappointments." Originally Posted by complicateur
First, the elegiac setpiece of Azhagar's death. The manner in which the film delineates how he trusts Thulasi so much only to get betrayed at the end, is an out-and-out tragi-fantasy of the adolescent male psyche that has manifested itself in many a Tamil film. How does this film reflect on that? It plays out Azhagar's death as the result of an ultimate act of betrayal by Thulasi. Carefully woven so that the display of male bravado running through the film remains untarnished. My criticism is not at all with respect to the plot point wherein Thulasi turns him in. My question is, why is such a big fuss made out of it in the film? How exactly is Azhagar insurmountable when he's all by himself, and vulnerable when with Thulasi? Because he doesn't carry a weapon when he's with her? Is this the sort of "nihilism towards love" commentary one is to expect? It's not as if his disappointment stems out of a personal crisis in their relationship. Why is she even central to the scene that is set to fell him down? Is he invincible otherwise? This narrative of a man brought to his knees by his foes because of his love for a woman is what I find so terribly clichéd.
It's not just the louu story. I think the film brandishes the same sense of male bravado throughout the film, even with respect to Kasi's character, and so on. Any act of self-preservation that's outside this "honour code" is "dhrOgam" enough, and makes retribution unavoidable. And, (I think I've already said this, please bear with me) the audience is expected to see these, and only these, as totally unwarranted acts of "dhrOgam" just because the characters say so!
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From: kannannn on 3rd October 2008 04:02 AM [Full View]
Thamiz, I am not justifying his writings or his reviews. In fact, I haven't read any of his short stories. I must also say that I find his arguments hollow - devoid of any substance. Originally Posted by thamiz
He is a pervert and he is proud of being one!
There is nothing wrong in that as long as he does not poison the society.
* He is polluting the under-aged tamils by writing inappropriate things!
* he is abusing the "freedom of writing" and "rights of a writer".
* Something needs to be done about him for his uncultured writing in tamil!
We shoul dbe ashamed of having a tamil writer like this!
But, even assuming the 'worst' (that he writes pornography), it is within his freedom to write. It is within our freedom to ignore his writings. That's all I want to say. If your main concern is the lack of warning to potential underage readers, then I concur. If he is a responsible writer, as he claims, he should have a warning on his site. OTOH, if, as your last sentence suggests, you want action taken against him for his 'uncultured writing' (i.e., irrespective of any warnings his writings warrant), then I have to differ and I am prepared to argue further (we never resolved our differences on this one). Avvalave
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From: thamiz on 3rd October 2008 06:18 AM [Full View]
kannan!
If he warns the audience that adult content exists (it does) in his site, I would never call him as "uncultured" Bcos that disclaimer makes him "civilized" and covers his butt even if he writes porn-storeis!
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From: complicateur on 3rd October 2008 08:58 AM [Full View]
Equanimus: First a thanks - for forcing me to re-examine my understanding.
Aah. So it is the means you take issue with and not so much the end. Then we have less to disagree on. Originally Posted by equanimus
During the precursor to Azhagar's execution I was worried, keeping in mind the general tone up to that point, that I would be subjected to some sort of banal dialog regarding "peNNin manasu being the home of her kaRpu" and that Samudrakani would end up having to use subversion to get him in seclusion without a poruL. That they need to get him without a poruL is in and of itself completely unrealistic. But there are some nice synchronicities if you will permit me some surrealistic leeway. Azhagar as you say definitely seems insurmountable but he is given one flaw, his confidence in his ability to fight is entirely entrusted to the "poruL". The first time he decides to pick it up is to prove something to Thulasi's family. Until then Thulasi is his "poruL" to prove his machoness to Paramar and the guys. It seems like his machoness is constantly existent external to him. In fact to me it seemed that was why he didn't carry the poruL to go see Thulasi, there was already one thing there that defined his manhood. To have 2 would be to inadvertently cross swords Originally Posted by equanimus
. Samudrakani eventually takes his own "poruL" (Thulasi) and uses it against him. Lends a slightly new take to the general "vaaLeduththavan vaaLaal" theme which seems all too popular.
Subtlety is definitely not Saikumar's forte though. The plants are all very obvious to the careful viewer. As soon as I saw Dumukkaan goading Kasi I knew something was up and that there would be repercussions. Also if Sasikumar's intention was to make the audience empathize with any of his characters and feel the "Dhrogam" as you put it he has failed miserably. What was popularly interpreted as "dhrogam" I saw as a natural progression of the story. So in a sense for me the movie was good in terms of a symbolic representation alone, not as a study in reality .
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From: P_R on 3rd October 2008 09:22 AM [Full View]
Interesting post complicateur !
Somehow the film didn't interest me at all to "get involved" much. Even the allegedly better first half was not engrossing and seemed very "constructed". Just didn't click.
Equanimus, coming back to one point a few pages back - regarding Jai's pronunciation. I disagree that it was "spot on" in Chennai 28 (In the bid to expand my vocabulary I missed that comment of yours ). He was relatively more at home in Ch-28 that Subramaniyapuram, that's all. The problem is not his 'accent' but the voice itself. Which is kind of thick and not pliant to the demands of expression.
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 01:46 PM [Full View]
Complicateur, Originally Posted by complicateur
My question whether what we see in the film is the sort of commentary one is to expect, was indeed keeping in mind how "poruL" exists almost like a symbol in the film. Hence those questions.
Does the film reflect on these questions? Does it reflect on, leave aside critique, the display of hollow machismo? It is this same sense of male bravado that is showcased everywhere in the film, and remains untarnished througout, as the film is busy commenting on kAdhal, natpu, dhrOgam etc. If the idea were to explore Azhagar's sense of machoness, would his killing be visualized like it is done in this film? Originally Posted by equanimus
Here is where I clearly part ways with you. I feel you're somewhat trivializing the narrative that we actually see unfold when watching the film. Debating whether it's a "natural progression" of the story or not, is to miss the point. The point is how interestingly it is all done and put together. The way things are staged here, at best, it comes off as a "naturally progressing" bad story to me. Originally Posted by complicateur
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From: thilak4life on 3rd October 2008 01:53 PM [Full View]
Fuck, I'm now tempted to watch this flick.
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 01:58 PM [Full View]
Same here, PR, lest you think otherwise. I'm just expanding on the clichés that the film thoughtlessly "constructs" (as you put it) and recycles. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
One more thing. I'm not sure why you say the first half is "allegedly" better. (I mean, is that the widely held general opinion?) But, yes, I didn't find the first half engrossing either. In that thiruvizhA sequence, there's a moment where Azhagar and Thulasi exchange glances, and some sort of happy music plays in the song. But, there's nothing unusual about the circumstances in which they meet. adhukka munna scene'la kUda pAththuttu dhAn irundhAnga. I've no clue why Sasikumar shot it that way.
illa PR, I said I agree with you. My comment was only about his accent which I thought was "spot-on." I too think he's simply not expressive enough. (Sample the scene where he explains the weak points of his ex-team mates.) I was saying that, despite his obvious shortcomings as an actor, his spot-on accent worked big time in his favour. Or, do you mean to say his accent itself wasn't up to the mark? Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Equanimus, coming back to one point a few pages back - regarding Jai's pronunciation. I disagree that it was "spot on" in Chennai 28 (In the bid to expand my vocabulary I missed that comment of yours ). He was relatively more at home in Ch-28 that Subramaniyapuram, that's all. The problem is not his 'accent' but the voice itself. Which is kind of thick and not pliant to the demands of expression.
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From: P_R on 3rd October 2008 03:06 PM [Full View]
Yeah. Every single guy in my friend's circle whom I reprimanded for letting the film go with the dangerous one word sum-up: "good", has immediately resorted to "well, atleast the first half was not bad". Almost as a bargaining point I had to invariably concede it. Hence the mounting annoyance. Originally Posted by equanimus
Don't even start. I thought something clever and interesting was going to happen. Originally Posted by equanimus
The way I see it, accent is add-on feature. When voice itself is poor I don't think the accuracy of the accent compensates much. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
And just to be clear, when I say "poor voice" I don't mean it is a non-mainstream voice. "ulagaththil indha maadhiri kuralgaL irukka koodAdha etc." That is perfectly fine with me. His voice was not expressive but was - for want of a better words I resort to it again - thick. For example in Paruthiveeran - I really liked the poNanthinni but not Ponvannan's voice.
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From: yvsmani on 3rd October 2008 03:39 PM [Full View]
Subramaniyapuram is an area in Madurai near Periyar Bus stand ( near Madura college). My house is there. According to an interview in Jaya TV with Sasikumar before the film released, he stayed in Subramaniyapuram 1st Main Road and the story is a real one which happened near his house.
"Murattu kaalai " was released in Sivam theatre,but they show Meenakshi theatre in the film. The other cinema posters, with theatre name "Jegatha" written on it is still there and it is renamed as "Harivignesh". There is one kaaliamman temple in Subramaniapuram 1st main road.
TV was there in Madurai from 1984, if I remember correctly. ( during world cup cricket which India won) (we had it in our home).
More than PV, I like this film very much may be due to the fact it is about events taken in Madurai, that too, in an area where my house is there.
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 03:42 PM [Full View]
I see what you mean, PR, but in this case, I think it compensated quite a lot. I thought he was impressive overall, with remarkable fluency in delivering the lines in most of the scenes. (I'm thinking about his scenes with his mom as I type this.) This, I suppose, was because the Tamil he spoke in the film came naturally to him. In general, I think almost everyone in 'Chennai 600028' showed strains of amateurish acting here and there, but the overall spontaneity and nonchalance won over me. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
>>Digr.
Ha ha, true. With the social acquaintances at work etc., I had to recoil. I couldn't go beyond saying that "personally, I didn't like it." edhO oru edaththula light'A EdhO sollap pOi, 'kuruvi' mAdhiri padangaL 'lAm dhAn ungaLukku pidikkumO? 'nnu vERa oruththar kEttAr. Silent AyittEn. A decent proportion in my closer friends circle didn't like the film. That's probably why I'm not getting all angsty. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yeah. Every single guy in my friend's circle whom I reprimanded for letting the film go with the dangerous one word sum-up: "good", has immediately resorted to "well, atleast the first half was not bad". Almost as a bargaining point I had to invariably concede it. Hence the mounting annoyance. Originally Posted by equanimus
<<End Digr.
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From: P_R on 3rd October 2008 04:04 PM [Full View]
Yeah...I used the terms "friends" rather loosely :P
நான் இப்பொல்லாம் எதுக்கும் கருத்து சொல்றதே இல்லை. "ஒருதடவை" பாக்கலாம், மாதிரி மத்தியமா ஏதாவது சொல்லிட்டு நிறுத்திக்கிறது. That is why I overcompensate in the Hub :P Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: equanimus on 3rd October 2008 05:00 PM [Full View]
Believe me, I was telling exactly the same thing to my friends some time ago. That we should just say the same thing ("ஒரு தடவை பாக்கலாம்") about all films in a Zen-like manner. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
P.S.: Pardon the digression.
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From: complicateur on 3rd October 2008 09:13 PM [Full View]
I agree that the film doesn't reflect on the machismo. It just presents it. All inferences drawn were purely of my own volition. But if the movie had stopped to reflect or exposition in someway I might have actually liked it less. All those comments that you point out (kAdhal, natpu, dhrOgam etc.) are so hollow that it served to reinforce how those are concoctions of a somewhat juvenile mind (not of the creator but of the character). I may be giving credit where none is due. Originally Posted by equanimus
On the online copy I saw, the scene where Azhagar is killed was so poorly visible that I could barely understand what had happened. Which is why I stayed away from commenting on the scene and only mentioned the act.
As I said the movie worked for me (on post mortem) because the staging was so poor. There was a pervasive lack of depth/meaning to everything which added to the general pointlessness I thought was in those lives. Of course as your signature said, thats just, like, my opinion man. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: complicateur on 3rd October 2008 09:24 PM [Full View]
equanimus: Originally Posted by equanimus
Believe me, I was telling exactly the same thing to my friends some time ago. That we should just say the same thing ("ஒரு தடவை பாக்கலாம்") about all films in a Zen-like manner. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
P.S.: Pardon the digression.
Prabhu Ram: as Kounder says in some social circles "kaal amuththurathoda niruththikkanum, karuththu ellaam sollak koodaathu". But namakku kaal amuththurathu siramam athanaala unga maathiri poththaam pothuva oru thadava paarkkalaam-nu sollidarathu. In fact I had to do this for Hey Raam once and I was polambifying for a few days after that to anyone who would listen.
As I was saying to equanimus, enakku ennavo antha belabored approach avvaLavu mosamaa thoNala. Everything I wrote was not something that arose from involvement, more of a postmortem analysis. Ippadi irukkumo-nnu oru yoogam. That is why I say in my previous post, I may be giving credit where it is not due. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: equanimus on 4th October 2008 04:06 AM [Full View]
Complicateur, Originally Posted by complicateur
I have to clarify, I'm not at all insisting that the film must reflect on (which itself, I'm sure you'd agree, wouldn't translate to expository pit stops if written well into the film's narrative) these things because it shows them. Nothing more fascinating than a narrative that just doesn't let the audience attach a convenient/simplistic kind of "larger meaning" to it.
This is where I disagree. That the film "just presents it." To say that the film "showcases it" sounds much more appropriate to me. The theme song sequence (which was my "breaking point" as well) is just a part of the package. The closing sequence where Dumka and Dopa kill Kasi for turning Paraman in, after 28 long years, is another. (avar enna kandIsan'la veLiyila vandhirukkAr... it's absurdly funny if you ask me.) I think there never was "a pervasive lack of meaning" to the way these scenes are staged and the way the film moves forward in general. The treatment here is anything but existential. Originally Posted by complicateur
ellAmE adhu dhAnE, Complicateur. A bunch of film freaks constantly reconciling their own reading of films with others. ellAththukkum oru opinion, oru suggestion... Originally Posted by complicateur
thats just, like, my opinion man. Anyway, romba pEsittEn. idhOda niRuththikkaREn. It was good discussing about the film with you. Keep them coming.
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From: complicateur on 4th October 2008 05:22 AM [Full View]
I definitely agree that an organic depiction serves up a better aesthetic and viewing experience. No arguments at all there. Originally Posted by equanimus
I just imagined Ganja karuppu saying that with his Madurai twang. Originally Posted by equanimus
Aah! Ippo puriyuthu. This is what happens when you watch a poor online copy of the movie. Antha kevalamana print poga naane selective editing vera pannikkittaen. Ithukku thaan mothallaye peyaama irukkaNum-nu paarthein, but curiosity got the better of me. I just wanted to know why all this criticism on the movie. Originally Posted by equanimus
It seems I just remember the portions of the movie that I "want" to. I guess I'll watch it again when I get a DVD and if I change my opinion, Thilak-oda "movies you changed your opinion on" thread-la oru post pottuda veNdiyathu thein.
Originally Posted by equanimus
ellAththukkum oru opinion, oru suggestion... Anyway, romba pEsittEn. idhOda niRuththikkaREn. It was good discussing about the film with you. Keep them coming. (at the Anbe Sivam Maddy quote) - Neenga ennai offend paNNathaa nenaichchu niruththureengaNNaa by all means dont stop. After all, karuththu parimaatram thaane. And as a fellow cinema-paiththiyam I am by no means unwilling to change my stance on the movie as stated above.
>>dig
Sidebar: Neenga thoongurathae illaya? Or are you stationed in McMurdo or something? You seem to post pretty much around the clock. end dig<<
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From: thamiz on 4th October 2008 10:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by yvsmani
முரட்டு காளை ரிலீஸ் மதுரை -சென்ட்ரல் என்று காட்டப்படுகிறது. ஆனால் அது வெளியானது சிவம் தியேட்டரில். Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: P_R on 4th October 2008 10:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: thamiz on 5th October 2008 01:19 AM [Full View]
ParuththivIran is certainly a better movie, imho! Originally Posted by yvsmani
It brings out, the paramakudi (mudhukuLathUr) lifestyle flawlessly!
This fiction is way off from reality.
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From: equanimus on 5th October 2008 01:30 AM [Full View]
Complicateur,
cha cha, appadi ellAm illa. Please don't even bother to explain. niRaiya ezhudhi thIrkkumpOdhu varum oru vidhamAna guilty feeling. avvLO dhAn. Jokes aside, it was actually a self-reflexive comment on my "internal struggle" (before reaching a "Zen-like state," that is).
Bharatha nAdu dhAn. Just that I tend to be noctural at times. Originally Posted by complicateur
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From: swathy on 11th October 2008 05:25 PM [Full View]
I read only this movie was the genuine hit
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From: viraajan on 11th October 2008 07:35 PM [Full View]
Congratulations Team. Looking forward for another classic from Sasi
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From: Nerd on 18th October 2008 09:58 PM [Full View]
Gowtham Menon on the 100th day
http://indiainteracts.com/videos/200...y-Celebration/
martin scorsese padam mAdhiri irundhadhu
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From: P_R on 18th October 2008 10:49 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
Gowtham Menon on the 100th day
http://indiainteracts.com/videos/200...y-Celebration/
martin scorsese padam mAdhiri irundhadhu
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From: jaiganes on 19th October 2008 04:48 PM [Full View]
Guys dont quote him out of context.. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by Nerd
Gowtham Menon on the 100th day
http://indiainteracts.com/videos/200...y-Celebration/
martin scorsese padam mAdhiri irundhadhu
he said the 'feel' was scorseseque - particularly the climax.
he also mentioned that the period touches of the film were extremely good and that he had tried something like that in VA - but not to this extent.
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From: P_R on 19th October 2008 04:54 PM [Full View]
OK I didn't see the vide. But the sentence in bold is bad enough. Originally Posted by jaiganes
Was expecting that anyway Originally Posted by jaiganes
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From: sarna_blr on 19th October 2008 04:56 PM [Full View]
1.. apdidhaan enakkum purinjadhu Originally Posted by jaiganes
Guys dont quote him out of context.. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by Nerd
Gowtham Menon on the 100th day
http://indiainteracts.com/videos/200...y-Celebration/
martin scorsese padam mAdhiri irundhadhu
1.. he said the 'feel' was scorseseque - particularly the climax.
he also mentioned that the period touches of the film were extremely good and that he had tried something like that in VA -
2.. but not to this extent.
2.. avaiyadakkamaa
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From: jaiganes on 19th October 2008 05:00 PM [Full View]
link e paakalaya?
chummaave oru smileya podavenduyadhu...
settai romba jaasthi aaiduchu hubla...
he explained that the whole movie in scorsese films will be travelling in one direction and in the climax everything will be changed and subramaniapuram was done in a similar manner.
i thought that was fair enough statement to make without being bombarded by ridiculous smileys.
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From: sarna_blr on 19th October 2008 05:02 PM [Full View]
and GM said that Kangal irandaal is the most downloaded song this year
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From: sarna_blr on 19th October 2008 05:04 PM [Full View]
idhu paravaa illa Originally Posted by jaiganes
Ameer enna pEsinaar'nE theriyaamalayE Rajini thread'la 10 page Ottunaanga , namma hubbers
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From: jaiganes on 19th October 2008 05:11 PM [Full View]
arasal purasalaa pesiye purali keLappuradhe pozhappa poachu.
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From: P_R on 19th October 2008 05:23 PM [Full View]
Just saw the video. Originally Posted by jaiganes
link e paakalaya?
chummaave oru smileya podavenduyadhu...
settai romba jaasthi aaiduchu hubla...
he explained that the whole movie in scorsese films will be travelling in one direction and in the climax everything will be changed and subramaniapuram was done in a similar manner.
i thought that was fair enough statement to make without being bombarded by ridiculous smileys.
I don't think Nerd's summary comment was out of line. I still find the attempted comparison quite funny.
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From: sarna_blr on 19th October 2008 05:30 PM [Full View]
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/
ivar dhaan andha thillaalangadi dyractor'aa ivarOda padangalOda compare pannadhu dhaan comedy'yaa
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From: Nerd on 19th October 2008 10:05 PM [Full View]
idhukkum naan sonnadhukkum enna difference? Originally Posted by jaiganes
Seri vidunga. MS has made what? 30 films? I have only seen 7-8 and I am unable to draw parallels with any of those and SuPu. Can you justify his statement - the peel of SuPu is the same as that of at least 51% of scorsese films. Also climax-la twist irukkadhellAm pudhchA? Why scorsese there? idhadhAn naanga peeter-nu solvOm.
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From: complicateur on 21st October 2008 10:56 PM [Full View]
Gautham probably read Baradwaj Rangan's review. The Scorsese connection I saw was the long tracking shots (the ones leading into subramaniyapuram and the one where Ganja Karuppu walks to the car to collect his payment). ala the CopaCabana shot in The Goodfellas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwVuystKJ0
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From: thamiz on 21st October 2008 11:00 PM [Full View]
That ganjA karuppu is becoming a traitor never happens in TN!
That is so cinematic!
SasikumAr messed up there!
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From: VENKIRAJA on 21st October 2008 11:00 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/
ivar dhaan andha thillaalangadi dyractor'aa ivarOda padangalOda compare pannadhu dhaan comedy'yaa
Sarna kaduppa keLapAtheenga.I have high regards for Scorcesse.Anyone would.And I feel like than
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From: steveaustin on 30th November 2008 12:59 PM [Full View]
Supergrossers 2008
2. 'Subrahmanyapuram': Day of the Underdog!
Released under the long shadows of 'Dasavatharam', the film, produced and directed by Sasikumar, picked up momentum and went on to become a huge hit, routing Rajnikanth's 'Kuselan' en route. Made at a budget of Rs. 2 crore and with relatively new faces, 'Subramanyampuram' told the gory tale of 1980 Madurai. The film has garnered more than Rs.20 crore and is still going strong.
Source: filmysouth
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From: Raikkonen on 30th November 2008 01:14 PM [Full View]
actually this is a spoiler.. Originally Posted by thamiz
That ganjA karuppu is becoming a traitor never happens in TN!
That is so cinematic!
SasikumAr messed up there!
btw, i disagree.. for me, it MADE the movie.. that was really unexpected. i was really shocked with that double climax. Sasikumar did very well there..
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From: thilak4life on 12th December 2008 01:34 AM [Full View]
Saw this film.
A) Not as contrived as PV (even with that lou betrayal), but equally (if not more) vacuous.
B) Trust, betrayal, revenge!
C) Trust, betrayal, revenge!
D) Almost every character seem to "function" under a strict code, almost Bushido-esque. I could understand why Zero frames as "cardboards". In deed.
E) An interesting thought. Assume Jai and Thulasi escape. Then Thulasi's father traces them, and convinces them to return. With his innocent demeanor, he assures them acceptance back home. When the car hits outskirts, it takes a turn, and Jai is grounded by Thulasi's father(the twist is this "other" face), their family and henchmen. Jai is spared his life, but beaten blue that he loses consciousness. He wanders different places, and cut to 2008, Thulasi and her husband (she gets married) spot him. She could identify him by that ever-so-stupid smile. Jai miraculously goes on about their love and about avenging the betrayal...but he is half-insane! That would have been some awesome stuff.
F) Hint of Misogyny. But they're showing some real people here!
G) All said, this is not utter-garbage. Ameer and now, Sasikumar seem to bank on violence, and they write a narrative to present gore and express milieus with different stylistics. Although it's no fault of Kamal and Bala to have opened this parade. There is a fresh breed of directors wanting to do this brand of cinema. Maybe this would take over from Masala routines. :P
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From: Movie Cop on 12th December 2008 01:52 AM [Full View]
Interesting twist from you, Thilak! I heard the movie was based on a true story in Madurai! A good movie from Sasikumar! To me, the second best movie of the year! Originally Posted by thilak4life
This movie is not meant for people who can't handle violence a la Virumandi! I watched it just once but one thing I couldn't get or missed is: what made Thulasi betray Azhagar! I thought that was not explained properly since betrayal was the order of the day as far as Su'puram is concerned!
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From: complicateur on 12th December 2008 01:59 AM [Full View]
Good Points Thilak.
A and F - Agreed. Originally Posted by thilak4life
D - The adherence to honor coda seems to be a very pan asian phenomenon. But have to agree withyou and eq. in that - in allowing adherence to these coda with no regard to self-preservation or even the semblance of conflict makes the people look 2-d.
E- That would make it too close to kAdhal for Sasikumar's creative comfort right?
G- The last sentence of this bullet is really the most worrisome aspect of what is now labeled "different" in thamizh cinema. "Different" becoming status-quo can only be avoided with a certain level of hegemony.
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From: equanimus on 12th December 2008 02:19 AM [Full View]
Interesting set of thoughts, Thilak. Note (E) looks like kAdhal-meets-Memento to me. (A huge fan of Nolan, are we?)
About overreacting to the film's vacuousness (with respect to the unending chain of "betrayals" etc.), I'd readily plead guilty. In any case, a "neutral" reaction to a film doesn't make much sense to me. (That might sound quite ironic considering the handle with which I go by here. But, like Russell Peters would say, I'm *fully aware* of it! "It's an accent. We're not deaf!")
michchaththai nALaikkup pEsuvOm.
P.S.: By the way, many of us here seem to be such nocturnal beings. Go sleep now! (ennach chonnEn!)
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From: HonestRaj on 12th December 2008 06:40 AM [Full View]
From India (I suppose) posted at 3:19 am... Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 12th December 2008 11:05 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Contrived in terms of plot and characterization ? I felt the exact opposite. With all its flaws PV appealed more to me. Many parts in Subramaniam felt very "conveniently engineered".
The perma-smiles put me off very early in the film I guess.
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From: equanimus on 12th December 2008 11:37 AM [Full View]
PR, Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Contrived in terms of plot and characterization ? I felt the exact opposite. With all its flaws PV appealed more to me. Many parts in Subramaniam felt very "conveniently engineered".
I *guess* Thilak's comment is with regard to the climactic twists of the two films, and not about the overall plot or the character sketches.
And, of course, I agree with you that they come off as conveniently engineered in this film. The audience's engagement with the film couldn't get more inert than this, if you ask me. It was almost like saying, "indha dhrOgaththai pAththAchchulla, keLambittE iru... next!"
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From: thilak4life on 12th December 2008 12:36 PM [Full View]
MC, I love violence. True story in Madurai is news to me... Originally Posted by Movie Cop
Interesting twist from you, Thilak! I heard the movie was based on a true story in Madurai! A good movie from Sasikumar! To me, the second best movie of the year! Originally Posted by thilak4life
This movie is not meant for people who can't handle violence a la Virumandi! I watched it just once but one thing I couldn't get or missed is: what made Thulasi betray Azhagar! I thought that was not explained properly since betrayal was the order of the day as far as Su'puram is concerned!
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From: thilak4life on 12th December 2008 12:41 PM [Full View]
Complicateur,
Reg. Point G. I don't think another film like Subramaniapuram or PV would be labeled "different" anymore.
It was a lame suggestion any way.E- That would make it too close to kAdhal for Sasikumar's creative comfort right?
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From: P_R on 12th December 2008 12:43 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: HonestRaj on 12th December 2008 01:07 PM [Full View]
adhuthan kAdhal-ngra paer-la eduthuttangale Originally Posted by Movie Cop
Interesting twist from you, Thilak! Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th December 2008 01:10 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
balaji sakthivelta rights vangirundha eduthirukalam
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th December 2008 01:11 PM [Full View]
acording to charu nivedita - this is "dhrogathin kaviyam".
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From: HonestRaj on 12th December 2008 01:13 PM [Full View]
remake pannidalam / remix pannidalam.. adhukku rights vanganuma? Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by thilak4life
balaji sakthivelta rights vangirundha eduthirukalam
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From: P_R on 12th December 2008 01:16 PM [Full View]
ஃப்ரான்ஸ் போன்ற நாடுகளில் கடைநிலை ரசிகன் கூட இந்த கலைப்படைப்பின் உன்னதத்தை உணர்வான். நாம என்னத்த கண்டோம். Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
acording to charu nivedita - this is "dhrogathin kaviyam".
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th December 2008 01:24 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
ஃப்ரான்ஸ் போன்ற நாடுகளில் கடைநிலை ரசிகன் கூட இந்த கலைப்படைப்பின் உன்னதத்தை உணர்வான். நாம என்னத்த கண்டோம். Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
acording to charu nivedita - this is "dhrogathin kaviyam".
"aange innum mulu drawer kooda podadha siruvan kooda aandhrovska kifarima-vin cinemavai alasikondirukiraan"
after most of the charus comments - this line should be added
"idha chonna enna paithiyakarangrainga"
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From: P_R on 12th December 2008 01:43 PM [Full View]
Director pEr dakAlti-yA irundhaalum, oru intellectual feel irukku
Director 'Hariharan' mentioned how his Prof. who introduced him to the grand name "Michaelangelo Antonioni" said Hariharan wouldn't become a director as he did not have the "name" for it.
Reminded me of "kooda vachchirukkavangaLukkellAm kudukkiradhillai".
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From: thilak4life on 12th December 2008 01:48 PM [Full View]
Eq (thanks) has said what I wanted to say. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Contrived in terms of plot and characterization ? I felt the exact opposite. With all its flaws PV appealed more to me. Many parts in Subramaniam felt very "conveniently engineered".
The perma-smiles put me off very early in the film I guess.
I watched PV, and I bought the "Twists" and dramatic turns. After some not-so-short notes from Eq and few other discussions, I re-watched the film, and found it disgusting. That's the truth of it.
As for Subramaniapuram, I was in guard after reading all your views. I watched the film, and found most of the opinions were spot-on.
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th December 2008 01:55 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Director pEr dakAlti-yA irundhaalum, oru intellectual feel irukku
Director 'Hariharan' mentioned how his Prof. who introduced him to the grand name "Michaelangelo Antonioni" said Hariharan wouldn't become a director as he did not have the "name" for it.
Reminded me of "kooda vachchirukkavangaLukkellAm kudukkiradhillai".
ive heard that pandiyarajans original name was pandiyan - he asked to add rajan as barathiraja bagyaraj had that raja in their name
hariharan - paadradhuku arumayana peru.
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From: thilak4life on 12th December 2008 01:55 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
About overreacting to the film's vacuousness (with respect to the unending chain of "betrayals" etc.), I'd readily plead guilty. In any case, a "neutral" reaction to a film doesn't make much sense to me.
I'm *fully aware* of it! "It's an accent. We're not deaf!")
I slept after posting that message.michchaththai nALaikkup pEsuvOm.
P.S.: By the way, many of us here seem to be such nocturnal beings. Go sleep now! (ennach chonnEn!)
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From: equanimus on 12th December 2008 04:12 PM [Full View]
Yes. nAn debug paNNa AramchittEn'nA, character'ukku uLLa pOyiduvEn. :P Originally Posted by HonestRaj
From India (I suppose) posted at 3:19 am... Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 12th December 2008 04:21 PM [Full View]
Think Vrichikakanth Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Director pEr dakAlti-yA irundhaalum, oru intellectual feel irukku
Director 'Hariharan' mentioned how his Prof. who introduced him to the grand name "Michaelangelo Antonioni" said Hariharan wouldn't become a director as he did not have the "name" for it.
Reminded me of "kooda vachchirukkavangaLukkellAm kudukkiradhillai".
ive heard that pandiyarajans original name was pandiyan - he asked to add rajan as barathiraja bagyaraj had that raja in their name
Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes. nAn debug paNNa AramchittEn'nA, character'ukku uLLa pOyiduvEn.
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From: MrJudge on 25th February 2009 10:44 PM [Full View]
'subramaniyapuram' fetches Mathru Bhoomi award:
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-25-02-09.html
Is this the first time a tamil movie winning this award? Any other film has won it before? Looks like Keralites are in love with this film.
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From: A_Ajith on 26th February 2009 01:20 AM [Full View]
I watched this movie online only recently in DVD print. This is a superb effort by Sasi. The movie did not comedians in line with modern trend, but the screenplay was superb. Camera too
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From: jaiganes on 26th February 2009 03:57 AM [Full View]
Awesome!!! Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: groucho070 on 30th March 2009 11:49 AM [Full View]
Finally got around watching this film. As mentioned to Joe, even though I am not from TN, I get nostalgic watching it, memories of growing up in Plantation back in the 80s.
A well acted film all around, with interesting story. Why 80s? It could have been set at any period and the film still would have worked.
Only the ending turned me off a bit. Like if a film is serious, does it have to have the so called "suprise violent ending". But I guess it goes with the subject. All Barathiraja's fault
Nice movie. Will certainly recommend it to those who has not seen it.
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From: srimal on 30th March 2009 07:55 PM [Full View]
i hear its going to be dubbed and released in telugu..
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From: jaiganes on 30th March 2009 09:22 PM [Full View]
Romantic directors have spoiled our audience. Originally Posted by groucho070
Finally got around watching this film. As mentioned to Joe, even though I am not from TN, I get nostalgic watching it, memories of growing up in Plantation back in the 80s.
A well acted film all around, with interesting story. Why 80s? It could have been set at any period and the film still would have worked.
Only the ending turned me off a bit. Like if a film is serious, does it have to have the so called "suprise violent ending". But I guess it goes with the subject. All Barathiraja's fault
Nice movie. Will certainly recommend it to those who has not seen it.
How can a film like Subramaniapuram have an ending with 'people holding hands and singing vinnodu vinn serattum?'
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From: Sarna on 10th June 2009 10:56 AM [Full View]
Subramanyapuram - enna oru padampaa
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From: jaaze on 10th June 2009 11:51 AM [Full View]
sarna innum intha archaeologist velaya udalaya
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From: viraajan on 10th June 2009 11:58 AM [Full View]
How was it towards the climax when Swathi brings Jai to that place. Originally Posted by Sarna
Subramanyapuram - enna oru padampaa 
What a turning point. Sasikumar 1st movielaye indha madiri yosichurukkaru.. my peace of mind was completely ruined after i saw this movie...
Jaaze, innum 10 varushathuku appuram kooda indha thread'a revive panni discuss pannala. its worth it :P
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From: Sarna on 10th June 2009 12:07 PM [Full View]
kadamai kanniyam kattuppaadu Originally Posted by jaaze
sarna innum intha archaeologist velaya udalaya
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From: Sarna on 10th June 2009 12:24 PM [Full View]
Azhagar : ippa kooda paramanukku theriyaamadhaan vandhirukkEn, adhukku kaaranam (pauses) naan innum unmEla vachchirukkura.... (turns and gets shock by seeing a guy coming with porul to kill him and searches under his shirt for porul ) ... ayyO Originally Posted by viraajan
How was it towards the climax when Swathi brings Jai to that place. Originally Posted by Sarna
Subramanyapuram - enna oru padampaa
in the same scene
kanaguwhile taking swathy towards his house) idhu pOdhumthaa, namma kudumba gouravaththayE kaappaaththitta
face expressions of azhagar after hearing that and further scenes master of art
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From: viraajan on 10th June 2009 12:33 PM [Full View]
Swathy: adappavi... enna ipadi panna vachuttiye
One Scene which really impressed me,
Jai'a 4/5 pEr thorathumbodhu he runs for his life and ends up in falling at the feet of a lady.
Then he shouts "uyir bayam'na ennanu kaamichuttan da... avan summa vida koodadhu da"
KUDOS!
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From: jaiganes on 10th August 2009 09:35 PM [Full View]
http://hindicinenglish.blogspot.com/...g-kashyap.html
Anurag Kashyap discusses movies and he mentions subramaniapuram too!!!
HEre you go
.H. - Do you often watch “Indian non-Hindi” films? If so, which of these films and/or directors would you recommend?
A.K. - Yes I do when I know of them. I saw "Subrarmanyapuram", a great Tamil film recently and a lot of new Marathi cinema, that in recent times has seen a great resurgence.
C.H. - Do you believe that 'Indian non-Hindi' cinema is capable of generating the same impact on Western audiences than Hindi films have?
A.K. - Yes. Provided it gets the same platform. Sometimes I believe the regional cinema in India has more potency and courage than Hindi cinema.
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From: Plum on 29th September 2009 04:14 PM [Full View]
oru vazhiya paarthEn. Agree with equa. Cardboard sums it up. ada pOngappA - konja nAL nAn Maddy kitta argue pandradha nirutha pOrEn..
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From: Sarna on 29th September 2009 04:21 PM [Full View]
bollywood'a kaadhali maadhiri paakkureengi Originally Posted by Plum
oru vazhiya paarthEn. Agree with equa. Cardboard sums it up. ada pOngappA - konja nAL nAn Maddy kitta argue pandradha nirutha pOrEn..
kollywood'a pondaatti maadhiri paakkureenga
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From: P_R on 29th September 2009 04:37 PM [Full View]
Maddy, aNNaNukku uRuppinar attai oNNu edunga. Originally Posted by Plum
oru vazhiya paarthEn. Agree with equa. Cardboard sums it up. ada pOngappA - konja nAL nAn Maddy kitta argue pandradha nirutha pOrEn..
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From: MADDY on 29th September 2009 06:59 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by P_R
Maddy, aNNaNukku uRuppinar attai oNNu edunga. Originally Posted by Plum
oru vazhiya paarthEn. Agree with equa. Cardboard sums it up. ada pOngappA - konja nAL nAn Maddy kitta argue pandradha nirutha pOrEn.. uruppinar attai-la Anurag Kashyapar photo irukkum, paravillaya??
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From: njv on 29th September 2009 11:24 PM [Full View]
Its time for tamil movie fans to seriously think about the movie they support vs not.
Almost for the past decade, particularly in the last 5 years, 99% of the movies are action movies. This is creating a huge impact to the society. Even in places like Coimbatore where people give respect to elderly, people are loosing patience and everyone is thinking as a mass hero and get into street fight and what not. Recent murder of Pricol HR executive is one such sample.
TV serials are adding to it as well equally. Every TV serial has 2 wives or 2 husbands, murder, killing brother etc. Thankfully they didn’t go into porno, but I am sure they will go very soon and since mass of the population is not culturally educated, they will go with out any limits and this is going to only increase criminal activities.
While movies like Subramaniyapuram brought some changes (particularly melody in music and moved away from heroism based movie), it hasn’t brought good changes.
Somewhere it has to stop. Hopefully sooner than later, or we will only see bloodshed in TN soon.
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From: Bala (Karthik) on 29th September 2009 11:35 PM [Full View]
njv,
Unga karutha attack pannala but i remembered a TV anchor raising similar questions (Kill Bill release) to Tarrantino and his answers (saw the youtube link in his thread in the hub)
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From: VENKIRAJA on 30th September 2009 08:38 PM [Full View]
I don't see any point in complaining about Su.Pu. Anjathey and Su.Pu are definitely worthy of a comparison with Dev.D and A Wednesday if not better.
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From: Sarna on 1st October 2009 09:39 AM [Full View]
Su.Pu, Anjadhey are better than A wednesday Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
even Kadhal and Kalloori are better movies wn compared with A wedneday
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From: VENKIRAJA on 1st October 2009 08:09 PM [Full View]
kalloori Originally Posted by Sarna
Su.Pu, Anjadhey are better than A wednesday Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
even Kadhal and Kalloori are better movies wn compared with A wedneday
kAdhal is better than any movie that released post 2000.
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From: Nerd on 1st October 2009 08:20 PM [Full View]
vaanga vaanga. Klup-la fourth member Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
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From: VENKIRAJA on 1st October 2009 08:57 PM [Full View]
yAr andha 2 pEr? There was so much in the movie. More than sethu, I feel kAdhal is the pathbreaker. BTW, what are Vasanthabalan/ BS doing now? Originally Posted by Nerd
vaanga vaanga. Klup-la fourth member Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
Interesting profile on IMDb
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From: P_R on 1st October 2009 09:03 PM [Full View]
Vasanthabalan - angaadi theru
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From: Plum on 1st October 2009 09:41 PM [Full View]
BS is apparently assisting in Endhiran?
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From: Appu s on 1st October 2009 09:55 PM [Full View]
BS directing a movie titled case no 18/7, producing by lingusamy
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From: littlemaster1982 on 1st October 2009 10:00 PM [Full View]
Never heard about it
Appu,
More details pls
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From: AravindMano on 1st October 2009 10:45 PM [Full View]
One more vote for 'Kadhal'. The movie of this decade, for me.
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From: VENKIRAJA on 1st October 2009 10:52 PM [Full View]
Must start a thread, and of course discuss about the 10 final movies that would feature in the list. epdiyum varushathukku oru padamAvadhu pOttu pOll vachiralAm. yArAvadhu thread pOdungappa. Originally Posted by AravindMano
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From: Appu s on 1st October 2009 10:52 PM [Full View]
LM it was supposed to be start last year, heard from one of my friend that he was looking for a new comers for that movie, some of his friends went to his office it seems... will ask him for more detail.. Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
Never heard about it
Appu,
More details pls