Congrats to her
National Awards 2006 - Priyamani, the best actress
Responses:
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From: Devar Magan on 10th June 2008 12:53 PM [Full View]
ennakkkkkkk koduma sir ithu :shocked:
anyway, PV deserves recognition..
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From: Thalafanz on 10th June 2008 01:00 PM [Full View]
Perhaps.
Originally Posted by Devar Magan
anyway, PV deserves recognition..
I kind of confident that Rani Mukerji will get it this time for her awesome potrayal in Black...
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:01 PM [Full View]
only one award for Thamizh?
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:06 PM [Full View]
Thalafanz, Black was in 2005. That year Rani lost to Sarika (Parzania).
Awaiting the complete news. One source had a scary news that Parijatham won some National Award.
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:06 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thalafanz
Perhaps. Originally Posted by Devar Magan
anyway, PV deserves recognition..
I kind of confident that Rani Mukerji will get it this time for her awesome potrayal in Black... I think ,this should be 2007 awards ,not 2006.
Amitab got best actor for black in 2006.
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 01:08 PM [Full View]
Priyamani win paNNa scary news'a vidavA ... :P entha scary new'um thAngikkiRa sakthi ippO vanthuduchu enakku Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Devar Magan on 10th June 2008 01:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: thilak4life on 10th June 2008 01:09 PM [Full View]
Convinced and confirmed:
India has no legitimate awards/recognitions.
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:10 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Devar Magan
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:11 PM [Full View]
who is the best actor
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:11 PM [Full View]
IMO .though Priyamani did well ,doesn't deserve a national award ..But may be there is no competition or better performance in this year
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:12 PM [Full View]
Congrats to Priyamani
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:12 PM [Full View]
oh Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Congrats to Priyamani
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From: Srimannarayanan on 10th June 2008 01:12 PM [Full View]
A Bengal Hero Originally Posted by Thirumaran
who is the best actor
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:14 PM [Full View]
Congrats to him also, for his name and the award Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
A Bengal Hero Originally Posted by Thirumaran
who is the best actor
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:15 PM [Full View]
May be from some art film ,which shows one guy drinking coffee for 10 mins. Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
A Bengal Hero Originally Posted by Thirumaran
who is the best actor
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:15 PM [Full View]
Soumitro Chatterjee. A Bengali actor. the guy who played Rani's father in Black
[/tscii]The 54th National Film Awards were announced in New Delhi on Tuesday. Among the big winners was Malayalam film Pulijanmam, by director Priyanandanan, which bagged the Best Feature Film Award. The Best Popular Film Award, however, went to Rajkumar Hirani’s Lage Raho Munnabhai.
Bengali actor Soumitra Chatterjee was presented the Best Actor Award for his role in debutant director Suman Ghosh's Podokkhep. Tamil actress Priyamani lifted the Best Actress Award her performance in Ameer Sulthan's Paruthiveeran.
While Konkana Sen Sharma walked away with the Best Supporting Actress Award for Omkara, Madhur Bhandarkar won the Best Director Award for his film Traffic Signal.
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:17 PM [Full View]
Ameer Sulthan
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:19 PM [Full View]
While her performance was not extraordinary I don't think it is as bad as has been dissed in the Hub since the movie's release. IMO I can recall a couple of scenes where she was pretty impressive - though I saw the movie exactly once.
I am inclined to agree with Joe:Kareena supporters start meesic. :P Originally Posted by joe
IMO .though Priyamani did well ,doesn't deserve a national award ..But may be there is no competition or better performance in this year
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:22 PM [Full View]
Was Kareena not an actor
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:22 PM [Full View]
oh! Yes ! I feel the only -ve is her dialogue delivery and tone ..doesn't suit with the accent of other characters. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 01:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Was Kareena not an actor
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 01:25 PM [Full View]
That alone is enough to reject her from the awards list right away.. yEnnA paruthi veeran is supposed to be a 'yathArthamAna' movie Originally Posted by joe
oh! Yes ! I feel the only -ve is her dialogue delivery and tone ..doesn't suit with the accent of other characters. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 01:28 PM [Full View]
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam Originally Posted by Roshan
That alone is enough to reject her from the awards list right away.. yEnnA paruthi veeran is supposed to be a 'yathArthamAna' movie Originally Posted by joe
oh! Yes ! I feel the only -ve is her dialogue delivery and tone ..doesn't suit with the accent of other characters. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:31 PM [Full View]
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From: rangan_08 on 10th June 2008 01:32 PM [Full View]
Soumitra Chatterjee is Satyajit Ray's fav.actor and has acted in many of Ray's films like Charulata (another fav. of mine), Apur sansar...etc., (Namma oor Gemini Ganesan kind of an actor) Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
A Bengal Hero Originally Posted by Thirumaran
who is the best actor
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:33 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam
Natioanal awards naa ippa ellaarukkum nakkalaa poiduchu
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:34 PM [Full View]
Best Supporting Actor Dilip Prabhawalkar (Gandhi in ‘Lage Raho Munnabhai’)
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:36 PM [Full View]
Ovvonnukku thaniyaa Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Best Supporting Actor Dilip Prabhawalkar (Gandhi in ‘Lage Raho Munnabhai’) kodukarathukku bathilaa oraediyaa ippaadi koduthidalaam
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 01:37 PM [Full View]
aamA .. i am just Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Originally Posted by joe
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam Natioanal awards naa ippa ellaarukkum nakkalaa poiduchu for every comment here
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:39 PM [Full View]
Well, the credit goes to Indian Govt. At least in this way they are making the public happpy Originally Posted by Roshan
aamA .. i am just for every comment here 
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 01:42 PM [Full View]
TM, cycle gap-la oru atleast-ai nuzhaichitteengaLE
Madhur Bhandarkar oru National Award kooda vaangiyirukka koodAdhu. He was won his third now. Chandni Bar, Page 3 and now Traffic Signal !
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From: crajkumar_be on 10th June 2008 01:44 PM [Full View]
naansansse
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:44 PM [Full View]
Sari sari, no politics please Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
TM, cycle gap-la oru atleast-ai nuzhaichitteengaLE
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 01:45 PM [Full View]
young angry man vanthutaaru Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
naansansse
Awards la inimae correction thaan
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 02:02 PM [Full View]
Ippa illa ..Eppavo Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Originally Posted by joe
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam Natioanal awards naa ippa ellaarukkum nakkalaa poiduchu
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From: ajithfederer on 10th June 2008 02:13 PM [Full View]
Nesstuu yearr genelia for santosh subramani
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
naansansse
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From: Sanjeevi on 10th June 2008 02:45 PM [Full View]
Who is the best MD?????
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From: Vivasaayi on 10th June 2008 02:57 PM [Full View]
parijathama?
is it just for joke
best tamil film...kalaingar recomendation?
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From: Vivasaayi on 10th June 2008 02:59 PM [Full View]
eppavum namma rajathan Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: sarna_blr on 10th June 2008 03:00 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
eppavum namma rajathan Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
eppavum ISAYARASAR dhaan best...
but his question is who won the NA for Best MD....
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 03:40 PM [Full View]
If it was ARR, it wud have flashed everywhere.....must be some unknown guy..........but ARR gave breathtaking RDB, SOK and Varalaaru in 2006 - i dont think anyone in entire Asia can stand up to him now leave alone India
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 03:43 PM [Full View]
Is it because he is sitting in your avatar Originally Posted by MADDY
i dont think anyone in entire Asia can stand up to him now leave alone India
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 03:52 PM [Full View]
he has given better scores and didnt get awardsShantanu Moitra's -- Music Director of Lage Raho Munnabhai -- efforts paid off as the movie bagged an award for Best Music. ....anyways, deserving guy ........
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From: thilak4life on 10th June 2008 03:54 PM [Full View]
If the answer is not Rahman, then it's a f-ing stupid question. End of...
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From: selvakumar on 10th June 2008 03:54 PM [Full View]
I think Saroja Devi speaks well. Originally Posted by joe
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam
May be - Priyamani avanga benchmark ah cross pannunathaala kuduthirukkalaam
I also saw the movie only once. She deserves the national award since all awards have come under the same roof.
Kazhuthai yaarukku kudutha enna (In V.K.R style)
- before priyamani supporters arrive
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From: thilak4life on 10th June 2008 03:55 PM [Full View]
National awards has attained Filmfare standards by turn of the century (or a bit before). Well some would say, it's been like that forever. I kinda agree...
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 03:57 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Shantanu Moitra's -- Music Director of Lage Raho Munnabhai -- efforts paid off as the movie bagged an award for Best Music.
was particularly impressed with his chameli score........very bold usage of bass guitars........but lage raho is really a ordinary score in front of omkara,fanah and RDB
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From: vinojasan on 10th June 2008 03:58 PM [Full View]
National awards-2006
Parijatham enna award win panniyirukku?
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 04:02 PM [Full View]
Re: National awards-2006
best tamil film i suppose Originally Posted by vinojasan
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 04:40 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
I think Saroja Devi speaks well. Originally Posted by joe
Saroja Devi-llam selection commitee-la irukkanga ..avanga pesuratha vida better-a feel pannirukkalam
May be - Priyamani avanga benchmark ah cross pannunathaala kuduthirukkalaam
I also saw the movie only once. She deserves the national award since all awards have come under the same roof.
Kazhuthai yaarukku kudutha enna (In V.K.R style)
Selva, - before priyamani supporters arrive
namma hubbers rasanai avvaLavu mattamAnathilla :P
BTW, I feel really sorry for Priya Mani when I see her with her pathetic outfits in TV shows and other programs
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 04:43 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
namma hubbers rasanai avvaLavu mattamAnathilla :P
BTW i am not supporting
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From: rangan_08 on 10th June 2008 04:45 PM [Full View]
After PV's release, Suhasini was all praises for Priyamani in her TV show. She even sort of underrated Karthi's performance.
Female chauvinist ????
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From: cancer on 10th June 2008 04:45 PM [Full View]
its not too bad as wat u people r laughing here, i don know whether she deserves for the national award or not since i didnt watch all other movies
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 04:48 PM [Full View]
True Originally Posted by cancer
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 04:59 PM [Full View]
No. She has a flair for unintentional comedy that is all. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Female chauvinist ????
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From: omega on 10th June 2008 05:01 PM [Full View]
I think she did a good job in PV. Not sure about if it was good enuff to fetch her this award. May be as others have pointed out, it must be the lack of competition.
Congrats!! to all winners.
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From: cancer on 10th June 2008 05:03 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No. She has a flair for unintentional comedy that is all. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Female chauvinist ????
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From: Roshan on 10th June 2008 05:07 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No. She has a flair for unintentional comedy that is all. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Female chauvinist ????
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From: Nerd on 10th June 2008 07:02 PM [Full View]
Congrats priya mani after about 20 years a Tamil film character has won the best actress award, archana won it last for veedu if I am not wrong.. Also i thonk priya is tamil by birth Karthi deserved an award more than her but you never know about those bongs..
LRMB winning so many awards is funny.. If not ARR for RDB,VB should have won it for omkara.. PaarijAtham now mozhi might walk away with the award next year 
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From: rajasaranam on 10th June 2008 07:04 PM [Full View]
முத்தழகு
ஆயிரம் கரங்கள் மறைத்து நிண்றாலும் ஆதவன் மறைவதில்லை 
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From: P_R on 10th June 2008 07:05 PM [Full View]
Paruthiveeran and Mozhi both released at the same time, right ?
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From: Thirumaran on 10th June 2008 07:07 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Nerd on 10th June 2008 07:08 PM [Full View]
in fact imdb says, same date as well 23 feb.. I thought there was a month's difference Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 07:32 PM [Full View]
national awards consider the censor clearance date for movies......i think PV might have got censored in 2006 itself Originally Posted by Nerd
in fact imdb says, same date as well 23 feb.. I thought there was a month's difference Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: rajan on 10th June 2008 07:34 PM [Full View]
ennavo ponga.. atleast edho oru award tamizhukku koduthangale.. adhu varaikkum santosham
priyamanikku vaalthukal ..
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From: Nerd on 10th June 2008 07:44 PM [Full View]
Theres a months difference after all :P Originally Posted by MADDY
national awards consider the censor clearance date for movies......i think PV might have got censored in 2006 itself Originally Posted by Nerd
in fact imdb says, same date as well 23 feb.. I thought there was a month's difference Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/29092.html
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/28338.html
Also I don't think the cutoffs strictly dec 31
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From: MADDY on 10th June 2008 07:54 PM [Full View]
or did priya mani win for her performance in Madhu which released in 2006 Originally Posted by Nerd
Also I don't think the cutoffs strictly dec 31
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From: NOV on 10th June 2008 07:57 PM [Full View]
CONGRATULATIONS PRIYA MANI
If at all anybody deserves it, it is the one and only MUTHAZHAGI!
More than a year has passed and my prediction, after seeing the movie, has come true!
Originally Posted by NOV
Acting - *****
Karthik - Duplicate Surya. In almost all scenes. Even has the same voice.
When priyamani hugs karthik on seeing the heart tattoo, his reaction was exactly Surya's (maayavi?)
Very good attempt for first movie.
Saravanan - Needless to say. Didnt know he could act so well.
Priyamani -
Certain candidate for best actress of the year! chancE illa....
I looked fwd to every scene involving her. No glamour just pure unadulterated acting!
Ponvannan - ? Is that really him. Subdued at times, roaring at others.
Ganja Karuppu - Comedy without distracting the main plot
Extras - All were good, from the small kids to the cooling glass paatti. So, so natural
ALL glories Goes to Director Ameer!
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From: Neel D on 10th June 2008 08:07 PM [Full View]
Congratulations Priyamani!
Congratulations to Priyamani! She has made me proud as a Tamil. Wishing her a great career ahead and plenty more accolades.
Thanks to Ameer for creating Muththazhagu character and identifying the perfect artiste to play it.
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From: crajkumar_be on 10th June 2008 08:59 PM [Full View]
Seriously, 99% fossible... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nesstuu yearr genelia for santosh subramani
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
naansansse
Filmfare and State Awards 100% confirmed...
"Sonnaal kel NA dhooram illai"
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 08:59 PM [Full View]
Yes ! Congrats to Ameer for bringing best actress award for Thamizh industry after a long gap.
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 09:01 PM [Full View]
Heard that Veyil got best regional movie award ..Congrats Vasantha balan
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From: joe on 10th June 2008 09:06 PM [Full View]
டெல்லி: 2006ம் ஆண்டுக்கான தேசிய திரைப்பட விருதுகள் இன்று டெல்லியில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டன. சிறந்த நடிகையாக பிரியாமணி தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளார்.
தமிழில் சிறந்த படமாக வெயில் தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது.
பருத்தி வீரன் படத்தின் எடிட்டர் ராஜா முகம்மதுவுக்கு சிறந்த படத் தொகுப்பாளருக்கான விருது கிடைத்துள்ளது.
சிறந்த திரைப்படமாக மலையாளப் படமான புலிஜென்மா தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்தப் படத்துக்கு தங்கத் தாமரை விருது வழங்கப்படவுள்ளது.
சிறந்த பொழுதுபோக்குப் படமாக இந்திப் படமான லகே ரஹோ முன்னாபாய் தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது.
பிரியாமணி சிறந்த நடிகையாக தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளார். பருத்தி வீரன் படத்துக்காக அவருக்கு இந்த விருது கிடைத்துள்ளது. அவருக்கு வெள்ளித் தாமரை விருது வழங்கப்படவுள்ளது.
சிறந்த நடிகருக்கான விருது வங்காள நடிகரான சோமித்ரா சாட்டர்ஜி தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளார்.
டிராபிக் சிக்னல் படத்தை இயக்கிய மதுர் பண்டர்கர் சிறந்த இயக்குநராக தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டார்.
சிறந்த படத்திற்கான இந்திரா காந்தி விருதினை காபூல் எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் மற்றும் ஏகாந்தம் ஆகிய படங்கள் இணைந்து பெறுகின்றன.
பொழுது போக்குஅல்லாத சிறந்த படத்திற்கான விருதினை அமிதாப் சக்கரவர்த்தியின் பிஷார் ப்ளூஸ் பெறுகிறது.
பருத்தி வீரன் படத்திற்கு பெர்லின் பட விழாவில் சிறப்பு மரியாதை கிடைத்தது. அப்படம் ஆசிய பிரிவில் சிறப்பு நடுவர் விருதையும் வென்றது நினைவிருக்கலாம்.
தேசிய ஒருமைப்பாட்டை வலியுறுத்தும் சிறந்த படத்திற்கான விருது கன்னடத்தில் வெளியான கல்லரளி ஹூவாகி படத்திற்குக் கிடைத்துள்ளது.
சிறந்த சிறுவர் படத்திற்கான விருது கன்னடப் படமான கேர் ஆப் புட்பாத் படத்திற்குக் கிடைத்துள்ளது. இப்படத்தை இயக்கிய மாஸ்டர் கிஷன் ஒரு சிறுவன் என்பது நினைவிருக்கலாம். ஜாக்கி ஷ்ராப் இப்படத்தில் நடித்திருந்தார்.
கன்னடத்தில் சிறந்த படமாக காத பெலதிங்களு படம் தேர்வானது.
சிறந்த ஸ்பெஷல் எபக்ட்ஸ்க்கான விருது கிருஷ் படத்துக்காக, சென்னை இஎப்எக்ஸ் நிறுவனத்திற்குக் கிடைத்துள்ளது
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From: rocketboy on 10th June 2008 10:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
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From: Nerd on 10th June 2008 11:04 PM [Full View]
So paarijaatham winning did not happen, is it ??
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From: littlemaster1982 on 10th June 2008 11:29 PM [Full View]
She even dared to say 'Kannamoochu Yenada' is on par with 'Kaadhalikka Neramillai' Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No. She has a flair for unintentional comedy that is all. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Female chauvinist ???? 
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From: MrIndia on 10th June 2008 11:43 PM [Full View]
hope she gets more characters like muthazhagu in 50% of her future movies.
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From: tamizharasan on 11th June 2008 02:26 AM [Full View]
Congratulations on award and wonderful performance
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From: Morning Glory on 11th June 2008 04:42 AM [Full View]
Congrats to her! She is truly an actress with amazing potential! Hope she gets more opportunities and good directors like Ameer.
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From: Thirumaran on 11th June 2008 11:18 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
She even dared to say 'Kannamoochu Yenada' is on par with 'Kaadhalikka Neramillai' Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No. She has a flair for unintentional comedy that is all. Originally Posted by rangan_08
Female chauvinist ????
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From: crajkumar_be on 11th June 2008 01:18 PM [Full View]
Priyamani, Madhur Bhandarkar(!), LRMB, Parijatham(?!!!!), Veyyil - What next???
Appo adutha murai if Perarasu doesn't win a National Award, i'll be damned!
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From: joe on 11th June 2008 01:22 PM [Full View]
What Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Perarasu didn't win NA this time ?
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 01:40 PM [Full View]
தங்களுக்கு பிடிக்காதவர்களுக்கு தேசிய விருது கிடைக்கும்போது.. தேசிய விருதெல்லாம் கணக்கில் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள முடியாது என்று ஆர்ப்பாட்டம் செய்தவர்கள் இங்கே ப்ரியா மணிக்கு விருது கிடைத்ததை கண்டு துள்ளி குதித்து சந்தோஷப்படுவதை பார்க்கும்போது....
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From: Thirumaran on 11th June 2008 01:41 PM [Full View]
Please be specific Originally Posted by Roshan
தங்களுக்கு பிடிக்காதவர்களுக்கு தேசிய விருது கிடைக்கும்போது.. தேசிய விருதெல்லாம் கணக்கில் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள முடியாது என்று ஆர்ப்பாட்டம் செய்தவர்கள் இங்கே ப்ரியா மணிக்கு விருது கிடைத்ததை கண்டு துள்ளி குதித்து சந்தோஷப்படுவதை பார்க்கும்போது.... Thaevai illaama ellaoarum appadi yaethaavathu sonnomaanu think vaendi vanthidum
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 01:43 PM [Full View]
Thiru, Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Please be specific Originally Posted by Roshan
தங்களுக்கு பிடிக்காதவர்களுக்கு தேசிய விருது கிடைக்கும்போது.. தேசிய விருதெல்லாம் கணக்கில் எடுத்துக்கொள்ள முடியாது என்று ஆர்ப்பாட்டம் செய்தவர்கள் இங்கே ப்ரியா மணிக்கு விருது கிடைத்ததை கண்டு துள்ளி குதித்து சந்தோஷப்படுவதை பார்க்கும்போது.... Thaevai illaama ellaoarum appadi yaethaavathu sonnomaanu think vaendi vanthidum
If the cap fits....
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From: joe on 11th June 2008 01:48 PM [Full View]
Paarijatham really won any award? Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Priyamani, Madhur Bhandarkar(!), LRMB, Parijatham(?!!!!), Veyyil - What next???
Veyil got 'Best Tamil movie' award ..If you think it doesn't derserve ,which one you prefer?
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 01:50 PM [Full View]
naan ippOthAn idha pArthEn Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Seriously, 99% fossible... Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Nesstuu yearr genelia for santosh subramani
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
naansansse
Filmfare and State Awards 100% confirmed...
"Sonnaal kel NA dhooram illai"
Bala
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From: sarna_blr on 11th June 2008 02:09 PM [Full View]
Shreya'ku National Award kedakkalyEnu ellaarukkum poraama pOla theriyudhu...
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 02:18 PM [Full View]
Not surprised at all. To be honest, I don't even feel like rebuking at the choices for the awards in the last few years. After all, it's just a bunch of "critics" voting for the films/performances/works they liked. One feels that it's time to "move on."
The dearth of works (among what I've got to see) that I actually adored or loved that year (2006) doesn't help much either. I didn't think Priya Mani was bad per se (in any case, not one of the worst things about the film), but it's not a remarkably well enacted performance either. The relevant question to put to someone who expresses his/her disapproval at the choice is, whom does he/she think the award should have gone to.
The way I see it, a "best performance" award is about the remarkableness in a performance that enables and enlivens the role. (I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior.
Prabhu Ram,
The actor who played Rani Mukherjee's father in 'Black' is Dhritiman Chatterjee; known for his roles in '36 Chowringhee Lane', 'Agantuk' etc. Soumitra Chatterjee, who has the won the National Award this year, is the Satyajit Ray favourite, if you recall. The veteran actor who acted in several Ray films including Apur Sansar, the two Feluda films.
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 02:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
The dearth of works (among what I've got to see) that I actually adored or loved that year (2006) doesn't help much either. I didn't think Priya Mani was bad per se (in any case, not one of the worst things about the film), but it's not a remarkably well enacted performance either. The relevant question to put to someone who expresses his/her disapproval at the choice is, whom does he/she think the award should have gone to.
The way I see it, a "best performance" award is about the remarkableness in a performance that enables and enlivens the role. (I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior. Contradictory statement'nu idhathaan solluvaangaLO
I am reminded of a dialogue of Prabhu's spiritual guru "adai ennamA kOrkkuRaangadA"
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From: selvakumar on 11th June 2008 03:03 PM [Full View]
Kettathulayum oru nallathu
Veyyil had won the national award.
I am not sure whether Veyyil deserves it or not, since I have not seen ALL THE regional films that were nominated for this award. But I am happy that Veyyil was able to convince the elite well compared to other overrated films.
So, naanum oru punch adikkiran
Aayiram veerargal maraithu nindraalum
Unmaiyaana Aathavan maraivathillai
Andasaarasaramum marithu povathillai
Muyal kootam singathin ethir nirppathoe
Intha murai atra seyalukku en abimaanamoe
Muthamizhae, senthamizhae nee Vaa Vaa Vaa
Veyyilodu vilyaadi aadi vaa, odi vaa
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From: joe on 11th June 2008 03:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Selva,
There is no single award for 'regional' section ..I think ,Veyil bags 'Best tamil movie' award ..like that one movie per each regional language will get one award.
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From: Thirumaran on 11th June 2008 03:30 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Selva,
There is no single award for 'regional' section ..I think ,Veyil bags 'Best tamil movie' award ..like that one movie per each regional language will get one award.
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From: P_R on 11th June 2008 03:35 PM [Full View]
naan nenchEn nee soltte !
Largely agree. Particularly the question to the nay-sayers. I had assumed it would be Kareena. That doesn't seem to be the case either. No answer forthcoming at all. Perhaps Kareena is hated even more here Originally Posted by equanimus
btw the line in bold - reminds me of Joey Tribbiani (FRIENDS) celebrating over the same line in a review of his 'Freud' musical
Originally Posted by equanimus
I stand corrected. Once I saw rangan_08's post I was wondering if I had got it wrong. Was too lazy to look it up right away.
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From: sarna_blr on 11th June 2008 03:35 PM [Full View]
TM anna, yaaru enna sonnaalum aamaanjaami solradhEy vElayaa pochchu, sondhamaa edhuvum sollatheriyaadhaa 
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From: joe on 11th June 2008 03:37 PM [Full View]
equanimus,
You rate Rajkiran's performance in nandha better than Thavamai thavamirunthu
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From: Thirumaran on 11th June 2008 03:38 PM [Full View]
Not like that. Even yesterday while talking with Joe, he said u are a brilliant guy. But i said no. Originally Posted by sarna_blr
TM anna, yaaru enna sonnaalum aamaanjaami solradhEy vElayaa pochchu, sondhamaa edhuvum sollatheriyaadhaa
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 03:38 PM [Full View]
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by equanimus
The dearth of works (among what I've got to see) that I actually adored or loved that year (2006) doesn't help much either. I didn't think Priya Mani was bad per se (in any case, not one of the worst things about the film), but it's not a remarkably well enacted performance either. The relevant question to put to someone who expresses his/her disapproval at the choice is, whom does he/she think the award should have gone to.
The way I see it, a "best performance" award is about the remarkableness in a performance that enables and enlivens the role. (I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior. Contradictory statement'nu idhathaan solluvaangaLO
I am reminded of a dialogue of Prabhu's spiritual guru "adai ennamA kOrkkuRaangadA"
I don't get what's contradictory in what I've written there. That I consider Raj Kiran's performance in Nandha superior? Or that I've admitted that, I, as someone who didn't think much of Priya Mani's performance, am not able to instantly recollect a different performance that I really liked in 2006?
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From: sarna_blr on 11th June 2008 03:40 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Not like that. Even yesterday while talking with Joe, he said u are a brilliant guy. But i said no. Originally Posted by sarna_blr
TM anna, yaaru enna sonnaalum aamaanjaami solradhEy vElayaa pochchu, sondhamaa edhuvum sollatheriyaadhaa I missed a word in my previous post... TM anna ungalukku sondhamaa edhuvum sariyaa sollaththeriyaadhu...
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From: thilak4life on 11th June 2008 03:52 PM [Full View]
RK in Nanda is powerful and intense, but thats out of context. We're speaking in context of NA that particular year. When gauged against Amitabh from black, I go for RK's from TT, or Lal's from Thanmatra (although it is not one of Lal's better performances)
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 03:53 PM [Full View]
Yes, I think so, Joe. If you'd allow me to extend on my previous comment, Rajkiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' was a good rendering of a character that "warrants" (if you know what I mean) a lot of affection from the audience. Otherwise, the performance in itself didn't exalt the film for me. Understated, yes; great, no. Let me put it in a different way. I'm not sure if there's a great distinction that can be made between his performance here and, say, 'Pandavar Boomi.' (Before anyone jumps on me for likening 'Pandavar Boomi' and 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu', please note that I'm talking about the performances.) Why then, is his performance in Thavamai Thavamirundhu rated so high when no one is even talking about 'Pandavar Boomi'? Originally Posted by joe
equanimus,
You rate Rajkiran's performance in nandha better than Thavamai thavamirunthu
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From: sarna_blr on 11th June 2008 03:59 PM [Full View]
I agree with u, Rajkiran's performance in PB and TT were similar.... Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes, I think so, Joe. If you'd allow me to extend on my previous comment, Rajkiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' was a good rendering of a character that "warrants" (if you know what I mean) a lot of affection from the audience. Otherwise, the performance in itself didn't exalt the film for me. Understated, yes; great, no. Let me put it in a different way. I'm not sure if there's a great distinction that can be made between his performance here and, say, 'Pandavar Boomi.' (Before anyone jumps on me for likening 'Pandavar Boomi' and 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu', please note that I'm talking about the performances.) Why then, is his performance in Thavamai Thavamirundhu rated so high when no one is even talking about 'Pandavar Boomi'? Originally Posted by joe
equanimus,
You rate Rajkiran's performance in nandha better than Thavamai thavamirunthu
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 04:01 PM [Full View]
Sorry I am not good at explaining the obvious Originally Posted by equanimus
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by equanimus
The dearth of works (among what I've got to see) that I actually adored or loved that year (2006) doesn't help much either. I didn't think Priya Mani was bad per se (in any case, not one of the worst things about the film), but it's not a remarkably well enacted performance either. The relevant question to put to someone who expresses his/her disapproval at the choice is, whom does he/she think the award should have gone to.
The way I see it, a "best performance" award is about the remarkableness in a performance that enables and enlivens the role. (I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior. Contradictory statement'nu idhathaan solluvaangaLO
I am reminded of a dialogue of Prabhu's spiritual guru "adai ennamA kOrkkuRaangadA"
I don't get what's contradictory in what I've written there. That I consider Raj Kiran's performance in Nandha superior? Or that I've admitted that, I, as someone who didn't think much of Priya Mani's performance, am not able to instantly recollect a different performance that I really liked in 2006?
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From: rangan_08 on 11th June 2008 04:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes, I think so, Joe. If you'd allow me to extend on my previous comment, Rajkiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' was a good rendering of a character that "warrants" (if you know what I mean) a lot of affection from the audience. Otherwise, the performance in itself didn't exalt the film for me. Understated, yes; great, no. Originally Posted by joe
equanimus,
You rate Rajkiran's performance in nandha better than Thavamai thavamirunthu Yes, I too go well with this statement. RK in TT did what he should. I would not say it's powerful, yet, comendable. I think someone like Thilakan would have given a different dimension to the character, performance-wise.
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 04:09 PM [Full View]
Fair enough, Thilak. (I haven't seen 'Thanmatra', but coming from Mohanlal, I'm obviously inclined to believe it should have been top rack stuff.) This is what I tried to say when I made the point about "whom should it have gone to." Apparently, there's a contradiction somewhere in there, but I can only wait until someone explains the obvious to me. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Roshan,
Ok. I think.
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From: P_R on 11th June 2008 05:58 PM [Full View]
No. His performance in PB is at best a mild indication of things to come. In terms of range of emotions he had the occasion to portray in TT was much much wider and so was his performance. Anger, disappointment , pride-swallowing, regret, ageing were all shown beautifully in TT. PB didn't give him that much scope. Originally Posted by equanimus
Originally Posted by equanimus
Joining the waiting club.
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 06:07 PM [Full View]
any performances better than priya manis that hubbers could point to?
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From: selvakumar on 11th June 2008 06:44 PM [Full View]
Thanks Joe for the correction ! Somewhere, I read the term 'Best Regional film' and 'Veyyil'. I took the literal meaning out of it and hence the confusion. Originally Posted by joe
Selva,
There is no single award for 'regional' section ..I think ,Veyil bags 'Best tamil movie' award ..like that one movie per each regional language will get one award.
This news makes me more happy now. Best Tamil Film (Among the tamil films, that got released !) I think what followed in my post suits even now.
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From: selvakumar on 11th June 2008 06:46 PM [Full View]
I agree with the points on Rajkiran esp w.r.t TT and PaandavarBhoomi. While watching Muni, I also felt the same. His performance surpassed his own performance in PaandavarBhoomi and TT
Probably, I shall rank it like
1. Muni
2. Paandvar Bhoomi
3. TT
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From: crajkumar_be on 11th June 2008 06:58 PM [Full View]
I also waiting club joining Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by equanimus
Joining the waiting club.
PR/Eq,
Missed the question "if not Priyamani, who else?" - Well, yes, Kareena was better in Omkara (and yeah, the "i just called to say i love you" sodhappal was better than PM/Ameer's carnatic class sodhappal
) .. vera performance-um sattunu nyabagam varla.. whatever.. Priyamani naansanse! 
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 07:13 PM [Full View]
[Missed to respond to this earlier.] Not sure which other performances were around. I thought Priya Mani was alright in PV, and did perform well in some scenes. (The scene where she scoffs at her grandmother after getting thrashed by her father is one of the few scenes in the film that worked really well for me.) But, I really liked Kareena's performance in 'Omkara'. (Especially, coming from Kareena... uh, that reads like fanboy-speak! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Largely agree. Particularly the question to the nay-sayers. I had assumed it would be Kareena. That doesn't seem to be the case either. No answer forthcoming at all. Perhaps Kareena is hated even more here Originally Posted by equanimus
) I didn't realize you were actually referring to 'Omkara.' The last scene where she breaks down when Omi puts his suspicion in words, is itself enough to knock down anything that Priya Mani did in Paruthiveeran, I think. (But then, we're talking about a Vishal Bhardwaj film vis-à-vis an Ameer film here. Hitchcock would have smirked at this situation!)
I don't remember seeing the Freud musical episode, but can imagine how Joey would have said that, taking quite a leap (as he often does) in defending his part (no pun intended in relation to one of his later roles). Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
btw the line in bold - reminds me of Joey Tribbiani (FRIENDS) celebrating over the same line in a review of his 'Freud' musical
Surely, TT gives him a much greater scope, I didn't mean to equate the two performances. And, I'm probably being "unkind" to his performance in TT. Actually, I am not dissing the performance at all, I thought he was pretty good, but I didn't think he was brilliant really. Somehow, the inherent placidness (divinity channeled through bovinity?) with which he plays the role stopped me short of accessing it with greater sensitivity. It was a straitjacketed role and that reflects in his performance too. Probably, I'm not putting it in the right words. (I may as well plead guilty here for not being as sensitive to the character, and for using heartless words like 'bovinity'!) Well, there was not much of a sense of revelation for me with regard to the different shades of the character that are brought out in the film. It didn't hit the spot like Chokkalinga Bhagavathar's performance does in 'Sandhya Ragam', every time I watch that film. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No. His performance in PB is at best a mild indication of things to come. In terms of range of emotions he had the occasion to portray in TT was much much wider and so was his performance. Anger, disappointment , pride-swallowing, regret, ageing were all shown beautifully in TT. PB didn't give him that much scope. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: Nerd on 11th June 2008 07:13 PM [Full View]
enna ipdi kEttiputteenga.. Namma sOthika illa.. VV/mozhi etc.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
any performances better than priya manis that hubbers could point to?
or even sharanya for paarijAtham
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:14 PM [Full View]
goyyala...sothikaku kuduthirundha naane poyi midhichirupen! Originally Posted by Nerd
enna ipdi kEttiputteenga.. Namma sOthika illa.. VV/mozhi etc.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
any performances better than priya manis that hubbers could point to?
or even sharanya for paarijAtham
i think priyamani selection was not that
its a good performance
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 07:16 PM [Full View]
I don't think Mozhi would have contended for the 2006 awards. So, Vivasaayi, you might probably want to get ready for the task next year. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
goyyala...sothikaku kuduthirundha naane poyi midhichirupen! Originally Posted by Nerd
enna ipdi kEttiputteenga.. Namma sOthika illa.. VV/mozhi etc.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
any performances better than priya manis that hubbers could point to?
or even sharanya for paarijAtham
i think priyamani selection was not that
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:17 PM [Full View]
noooo....sothika being overrated in media is enough! Originally Posted by equanimus
I don't think Mozhi would have contended for the 2006 awards. So, Vivasaayi, you might probably want to get ready for the task next year. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
goyyala...sothikaku kuduthirundha naane poyi midhichirupen! Originally Posted by Nerd
enna ipdi kEttiputteenga.. Namma sOthika illa.. VV/mozhi etc.. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
any performances better than priya manis that hubbers could point to?
or even sharanya for paarijAtham
i think priyamani selection was not that
national award
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:18 PM [Full View]
priyamani....tamil speaking heroine with some good talent after a long time
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:19 PM [Full View]
traffic signal padam epdi?
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:20 PM [Full View]
national award commitee must come out with the nominees!
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From: Nerd on 11th June 2008 07:21 PM [Full View]
When was the last time in Tamil cinema we had such a beautiful character with scope for showing a wide range of emotions written (RK in TT) even if one finds the performance adequate for *that* character, I think it says a lot, IMHO..
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From: Nerd on 11th June 2008 07:26 PM [Full View]
thats the only problem with her.. akkA voice sornAkkA voice maadhiri Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
priyamani....tamil speaking heroine with some good talent after a long time aanaa thalaivi simran-kku they denied the award because she used a dubbing artist - plain stupid
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:28 PM [Full View]
what stupid Originally Posted by Nerd
thats the only problem with her.. akkA voice sornAkkA voice maadhiri Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
priyamani....tamil speaking heroine with some good talent after a long time aanaa thalaivi simran-kku they denied the award because she used a dubbing artist - plain stupid
the soul of the charecter was produced by the dubbing artist!..the voice modulations provide the feel!
i dont find any greatness in simran or sothikas acting
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From: P_R on 11th June 2008 07:30 PM [Full View]
This is what I want ! (a la Manobala in the "eppidi irundha naan..." scene.) As I mentioned earlier - I haven't seen Omkara but I don't find it difficult to believe Kareena could have been better. Originally Posted by equanimus
A reviewer writes a stinker about the play and the cast and crew are hearing on as the director reads it aloud almost wincing in pain. One line reads "Joey Tribbiani's pathetic performance is not the worst part of the play" (sic) and Joey pumps his fist with a loud "YES!" Originally Posted by equanimus
Originally Posted by equanimus
three much !
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 07:32 PM [Full View]
Vivasaayi,
While I vehemently agree with the larger point that actors should themselves dub for their characters, I think Simran's performance in 'Kannathil Muthamittal' (assuming that Nerd is indeed referring to that) took the leap so admirably. That is one of the best performances by a female lead in the last few years. Abhirami, Simran, Shalini and Sandhya. That's all I'm able to think of.
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From: P_R on 11th June 2008 07:33 PM [Full View]
Shalini
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:34 PM [Full View]
kannathil muthamitaal performance makes me remember the voice of simran talking to the kid with the motherly attitude! Originally Posted by equanimus
i strongly believe that even when an actress was plastic in acting...the dubbing artist can make it look good!
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:34 PM [Full View]
alaipayuthe - good performance Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Shalini
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:36 PM [Full View]
will satyaraj and kamal compete for this year
periyar(kalaingar could play a role ) and onbadhu roobai nottu
dasavatharam
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From: Nerd on 11th June 2008 07:39 PM [Full View]
yes I was talking about KM. And viv, placing sO and sim on the same pedestal is blasphemy
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From: Vivasaayi on 11th June 2008 07:40 PM [Full View]
nerd,
nono.....simran is far far fa far ahead of sothika!
i just meant that dubbing plays a great role
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From: rocketboy on 11th June 2008 08:13 PM [Full View]
You are the man Originally Posted by selvakumar
Thanks Joe for the correction ! Somewhere, I read the term 'Best Regional film' and 'Veyyil'. I took the literal meaning out of it and hence the confusion. Originally Posted by joe
Selva,
There is no single award for 'regional' section ..I think ,Veyil bags 'Best tamil movie' award ..like that one movie per each regional language will get one award.
This news makes me more happy now. Best Tamil Film (Among the tamil films, that got released !) I think what followed in my post suits even now.
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From: thilak4life on 11th June 2008 08:41 PM [Full View]
Ok. Every post here is from one's limited exposure to films, and subjective estimation of a performance. So, we are bound to have Raj kirans, Kareenas, etc brought here for some reason. Originally Posted by equanimus
Fair enough, Thilak. (I haven't seen 'Thanmatra', but coming from Mohanlal, I'm obviously inclined to believe it should have been top rack stuff.) This is what I tried to say when I made the point about "whom should it have gone to." Originally Posted by thilak4life
Sometimes a cliche is a cliche because it's true. RK's enactment in TT was "realistic" so to speak. Accepted that it's a straightjacketed role, and all that jazz. Of course, Cheran's characters are difficult to appreciate without reservations. RK's performance saved the sentimentalism by some degree (what you refer as placidness) OTOH, Black had a combination of unrefined acting (save the brilliance here and there), and melodramatic filmmaking. Of course, I can't analogize Cheran's and SLB's idea of filmmaking, although I find 'em both operatic and opulent in different ways. Even Blessy's work in Thanmatra is not without resonance. Cheran flatters to deceive, while SLB is more open about it, calls it "art" and what not. Originally Posted by equanimus
So often these days, NA is more of the "popular" choice, which leads to three mainstream perfs that year - Amitabh (black), Lal (thanmatra), RK (TT). I look at how the performances enhance the theme with some refinement, and ummm, realism. And hence, I'd rate in the following order: Lal (Thanmatra), RK (TT), and Bachchan (Black).
And hey, if you're bringing Bhagavathar in Balu mahendra's Sandhya Ragam and Veedu, we're going far beyond the scope of this discourse. You're referring some of the best performances in history of TFI. Add a big fat and bold IMHO in the end.
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From: karthik_sa2 on 11th June 2008 08:46 PM [Full View]
priyamani ceratinly deserves the award....aachiriyama tamil actors'a recognise pannirkaanga....adhu inga sela paruku porukala.... she was awesome in pv esp in the scene where she gets beatings from her father....appa after long time such a mindblowing performance getting recongnised by the so called great national award juries...
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From: equanimus on 11th June 2008 09:26 PM [Full View]
That was exactly my point, Thilak. (Oddly, only Prabhu Ram seems to have read it the way I meant it.) Regardless of how highly one rates the award-winning performance, one should also understand that the scope of the award is restricted to a limited set of contenders. I recalled 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' to make a different point; not to say that it was not the best performance, or that Amitabh Bachchan's performance in 'Black' was indeed better. I don't think much of the latter at all. I'd go with Rajkiran as well. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Ok. Every post here is from one's limited exposure to films, and subjective estimation of a performance. So, we are bound to have Raj kirans, Kareenas, etc brought here for some reason. Originally Posted by equanimus
Fair enough, Thilak. (I haven't seen 'Thanmatra', but coming from Mohanlal, I'm obviously inclined to believe it should have been top rack stuff.) This is what I tried to say when I made the point about "whom should it have gone to." Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: joe on 11th June 2008 09:32 PM [Full View]
I don't think any living actor in Tamil can justify that role in Thavamai thavamirunthu like Rajkiran did...That is all.
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 11:04 PM [Full View]
oh ! waiting club queue varisai :P neendu vittathAl idhO.. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
I also waiting club joining Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Originally Posted by equanimus
Joining the waiting club.
I hardly see any difference between what eq says with regard to Priya Mani's performance in PV and RK's in TT. While he somehow sutthi valechu (avaru eppO direct'A solli irukkAr ) justifies Priya Mani's selection he dismisses RK's.
UngaLukku vEra mAthiri meaning thOnuchunnA that's fine. As Selva mentioned once eq's posts are like statistics - it can be interpreted in many different ways
Anyway as you rightly said, award for Priya Mani is naansense adhu competition irunthAlum sari - illAvittAlum sari.
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 11:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
adhuvum nandha role kooda compare paNRathellAm - like Bala says .. naansense
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From: kannannn on 11th June 2008 11:11 PM [Full View]
Aaha, what a pleasant surprise!! I am not alone in cringing at this utterly incomprehensible selection. If she doesn't deserve who else? To answer that with another question - should there be someone? I don't see the point in selecting someone just for the heck of it. Why not just say that no one deserved the award this year? After all, Golden Lotus is not awarded every year. Andhra went without a Regional Award for a couple of years (Jha went to the extent of saying the films were pathetic the year he was in the jury. Avar nadandhukkitta vidham padu kevalam, but that's another matter). So, for me it is neither Priya Mani nor Kareena (Kareena was good, but award??!!!)
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 11:16 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kannannn
Simple logic and basic common sense
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From: P_R on 11th June 2008 11:37 PM [Full View]
He said he didn't think much of PriyamaNi's performance and he didn't think RK in TT was as great as has been widely said. The mention of Nandha was at best a distracting side-note. Originally Posted by Roshan
I diagnose that the mention of Nandha etc. - which, I hope he will learn over time, is a rash thing to do in these parts - has proved to be quite decisive in the way that post was read.
But - IMO of course- relevance is overrated.
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From: Roshan on 11th June 2008 11:55 PM [Full View]
AdhathAn nAnum solREn.. but what he 'tried' to infer at the end was different - IMHO of course :P Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
He said he didn't think much of PriyamaNi's performance and he didn't think RK in TT was as great as has been widely said. Originally Posted by Roshan
The mention of Nandha was at best a distracting side-note.
I diagnose that the mention of Nandha etc. - which, I hope he will learn over time, is a rash thing to do in these parts - has proved to be quite decisive in the way that post was read.
PS: I would even rate RK's performance in TT ahead of KH's in Indian.
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From: Movie Cop on 12th June 2008 12:02 AM [Full View]
Congrats Priya Mani! That was one heck of a performance as Muthazhaghu... What about Karthi? Haven't seen the Bengal movie... Hence no comments!
For year 2007 - our "King" Khan deserves the best actor award for "Chak De India"... :P
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 12:20 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
I hardly see any difference between what eq says with regard to Priya Mani's performance in PV and RK's in TT. While he somehow sutthi valechu (avaru eppO direct'A solli irukkAr ) justifies Priya Mani's selection he dismisses RK's.Ha, really, Roshan, it doesn't take a leap of logic to figure out that I wasn't "justifying" Priya Mani's selection. I was just saying that it strikes me as absurd to expect a handful of critics to choose what one thinks as the "the right film"; that it's some award and why give so much importance to what a bunch of critics thought about it. If you do care about it, what could have been a more deserving candidate? This was how I put my perspective in this matter. If the answer to the question is "none!", jolly well right. What makes you think I'd not find that acceptable?! Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by kannannn
Simple logic and basic common sense
Originally Posted by Roshan
The mention of Nandha was at best a distracting side-note.
I diagnose that the mention of Nandha etc. - which, I hope he will learn over time, is a rash thing to do in these parts - has proved to be quite decisive in the way that post was read.
PS: I would even rate RK's performance in TT ahead of KH's in Indian.For a more meaningful discourse, I think you could do well by understanding where you're disagreeing with me. If you feel my rating Rajkiran's performance in Nandha above TT is silly or outrageous, just say that. Don't say that I was inferring (or 'trying' to infer!) that Priya Mani deserved the award. Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by joe
adhuvum nandha role kooda compare paNRathellAm - like Bala says .. naansense
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 12:22 AM [Full View]
till now people dint say why muthazhagu dint deserve...any specific reasons regarding her peroformance?
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 12:23 AM [Full View]
nAn oNNumE sollaliyE kaNNu...
Kannannn, Originally Posted by kannannn
Of course, they could have done that. I hope at least you get that I'm not defending the choice of National Film Award committee here! I was just pointing out the general framework with which these awards go by. (It's entirely appropriate for the jury to choose to not give any award in some categories, but it happens only in exceptional cases.) As I mentioned in the very beginning of my post, it's just an award chosen by some random bunch of critics every year. What's the big deal? You think they could have still done "the right thing," while I really don't care. That's the difference. We are at the opposite sides of the spectrum.
Anyway, this is getting tired. Let me just end on this note: I'm the one who's perplexed at the kind of "importance" everyone seems to bestow up on these awards. For that matter, if you go back and read my posts, I didn't even say Kareena deserves the National Award for the best actress despite saying that I easily preferred her performance to Priya Mani's. (idhellAm appadE varradhu dhAn... That's as much I care for the national awards. At least, after all these years.)
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From: Roshan on 12th June 2008 12:34 AM [Full View]
I have said it 'directly' up above there next to Joe's post .. enna onnu 'outragous'ku bathila 'naansense'nu solli irukkEn :P Originally Posted by equanimus
These words of mine have got NOTHING to do with your rating of Nandha above TT. I thought you would understand that by seeingDon't say that I was inferring ( or 'trying' to infer!) that Priya Mani deserved the award. icon I have put above as a response to Prabhu's post.
Anyway - take it easy
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From: kannannn on 12th June 2008 12:41 AM [Full View]
Re: nAn oNNumE sollaliyE kaNNu...
Equanimus, I understand what you are trying to say - pick the best of the available. I just feel sad that an award that honoured outstanding performances not long ago (Soundarya for Dweepa), has become a caricature of its own past. But then I remember how Kamal got one for Indian and Saif for Hum Tum and console myself that they could have done worse. I still care because it is the only avenue for recognition for people who believe in serious cinema. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 12:44 AM [Full View]
All right, Roshan. You can always count me to not take it seriously. Originally Posted by Roshan
These words of mine has got NOTHING to do with your rating of Nandha above TT. I thought you would understand that by seeing :conused2: icon I have put above as a response to Prabhu's post.Don't say that I was inferring ( or 'trying' to infer!) that Priya Mani deserved the award.
Anyway - take it easy
But that doesn't make your case any stronger. You are still wrong in saying that I "inferred" that Priya Mani deserved the award. I didn't even remotely suggest that. Like I pointed out in my response to Kannan, I can only say, and have only said, whether I like a film/performance or not. I didn't even say anything with respect to any actor deserving a national award or not. (And, in general, I was also trying to recollect other performances that came around that time myself.)
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From: thilak4life on 12th June 2008 01:13 AM [Full View]
I know. I'm not really sure whether we disagree on anything. Except maybe RK's perf in Nanda is superlative to TT's role, that's something to ponder. Some other day (I hope). Originally Posted by equanimus
That was exactly my point, Thilak. (Oddly, only Prabhu Ram seems to have read it the way I meant it.) Regardless of how highly one rates the award-winning performance, one should also understand that the scope of the award is restricted to a limited set of contenders. I recalled 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' to make a different point; not to say that it was not the best performance, or that Amitabh Bachchan's performance in 'Black' was indeed better. I don't think much of the latter at all. I'd go with Rajkiran as well. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Ok. Every post here is from one's limited exposure to films, and subjective estimation of a performance. So, we are bound to have Raj kirans, Kareenas, etc brought here for some reason. Originally Posted by equanimus
Fair enough, Thilak. (I haven't seen 'Thanmatra', but coming from Mohanlal, I'm obviously inclined to believe it should have been top rack stuff.) This is what I tried to say when I made the point about "whom should it have gone to." Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 01:25 AM [Full View]
No, Kannan. As I've repeatedly clarified, I am not really concerned with the final choice at first place. (I do have some residual "respect" retained for National Awards, for old times' sake, but it's obvious how hollowly I employ the word "respect" here.) It's inherently something that is decided by someone else, and I'm fully aware of that. Let me just re-quote the relevant part of my post (that PR had quoted earlier while responding to it). Please read the last line. That's where I stand. Originally Posted by kannannn
And, Roshan, please read that last line again, just in case it helps. One more thing: there's a lot of difference between what I've said with regard to Priya Mani's performance in PV and RK's in TT, and it should be fairly obvious that I rate the latter much higher than the former. That's why I go a step further and say why even a good performance like Rajkiran's is also not what I'd genuinely consider for a "best performance" award. This was my line of thought when I wrote that post. Phew! (idhukku nadUla, I've condescendingly deconstructed people's approval of Muthazhagu winning the award. Originally Posted by equanimus
So much for the "inference" that I was defending Priya Mani's performance!)
Originally Posted by equanimus
(I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior.
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 09:30 AM [Full View]
someone asked "wats wrong in muthhazhagu characterisation" ..........i felt the entire love track based on which the movie runs was fragile...........girl who changes her mind for lifetime after she is saved from well by hero - to me was very cliched and a weak link.........so any characterisation built on this weak and fragile link would be knee jerk......
also, her madurai accent seemed somewhat forced..........it was pretty jarring and repulsive for me - and the way she put it accentuated it..........it was far from natural.....
i would go with kareena anyday in omkara or as some suggested, they could have not awarded anyone......
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 09:45 AM [Full View]
oh.. Probably, from here onwards, myself and Roshan shall ask you or his highness equanimus - Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
'இங்கு தாங்கள் கூறிய அனைத்தையும், இரண்டு வரிகளுக்கு மிகாமல் சுருக்கி வரைக"
everytime when we arrive at different analysis based on our limited 'reading skills' and wait for the judgement to be delivered by him.
Didn't he bring PaandavarBhoomi too ? I don't think anyone would have ridiculed his performance in Nandha. But they feel that it is not as good as how he was in TT. That included you as well. Right ?I diagnose that the mention of Nandha etc. - which, I hope he will learn over time, is a rash thing to do in these parts - has proved to be quite decisive in the way that post was read.
(Priyamani > Rajkiran in TT ) < Rajkiran in Nandha & PaandavarBhoomi
The above equation is what I got, after reading his posts. Again, we can have our own equations since everything lies in the way one interprets the statistics.
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 09:46 AM [Full View]
the girl was just a kid... Originally Posted by MADDY
that childhood attraction continues to her teenage!
chinna vayasula rajni padam paakamaye yaaru ketalum rajni fannu soldrra kids peria aalanapuram naturalave rajni fana irukaradhillaya...andha mentality than!
i dont see any logic in questioning the logic behind the "way the kid thought"...
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 09:55 AM [Full View]
how many movies have we seen hero rescuing heroine from well Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
the girl was just a kid...
that childhood attraction continues to her teenage!
chinna vayasula rajni padam paakamaye yaaru ketalum rajni fannu soldrra kids peria aalanapuram naturalave rajni fana irukaradhillaya...andha mentality than!
i dont see any logic in questioning the logic behind the "way the kid thought"... ......the event that shapes up the female protaganist character is so cliched and not a convincing one.........
rajini fanatism is due to kids' parents whose fanatism influence them.............can we apply same logic to PV???
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 09:57 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:00 AM [Full View]
yaru influence panna enna? Originally Posted by MADDY
the attraction in the tender age continues naturally!
ennathan software companila figures adhigam irundhalum...schoolla sight adicha ponnungathana adhigama influence pannuvanga...ok va irundhalum!
i just meant that kid time attraction could be with no reason....but that doesnt have to be changed for any reason
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From: joe on 12th June 2008 10:01 AM [Full View]
* It is not just because the Hero rescued heroine she fall in love ..she is muRai ponnu for hero ,if I am not wrong.
* What the hell is this to do with Priyamani's performance ,,first of all Priyamani didn't act in that chinna ponnu character ..and if at all there is logical flaw ,it should be attributed to Ameer for characterisaion ,not Priyamani.
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From: NOV on 12th June 2008 10:01 AM [Full View]
I agree completely with this statement. Originally Posted by selvakumar
rajkiran's role has been done a zillion times by character artistes like nassar, prakashraj, rangarao, major, etc etc. we need not even bring NT here.
whereas scope for heroines has always been lacking for tamil movie leading ladies and priyamani has done very well.
acocrding to equanimus, everyone remembers MUTHAZHAGU instead of priyamani. isnt that what acting is all about?
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:03 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
I agree completely with this statement. Originally Posted by selvakumar
rajkiran's role has been done a zillion times by character artistes like nassar, prakashraj, rangarao, major, etc etc. we need not even bring NT here.
whereas scope for heroines has always been lacking for tamil movie leading ladies and priyamani has done very well.
acocrding to equanimus, everyone remembers MUTHAZHAGU instead of priyamani. isnt that what acting is all about?
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:03 AM [Full View]
rajkiran in TT was just mindblowing...no two words!
but why should it be compared with muthazhagu
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:04 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:06 AM [Full View]
in ur statement itself, Muthazhagu has won,... Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
rajkiran in TT was just mindblowing...no two words!
but why should it be compared with muthazhagu 
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From: Roshan on 12th June 2008 10:08 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
I agree completely with this statement. Originally Posted by selvakumar
rajkiran's role has been done a zillion times by character artistes like nassar, prakashraj, rangarao, major, etc etc. we need not even bring NT here.
whereas scope for heroines has always been lacking for tamil movie leading ladies and priyamani has done very well.
acocrding to equanimus, everyone remembers MUTHAZHAGU instead of priyamani. isnt that what acting is all about?
Join the club NOV I am not left alone with regard to my interpretation of Eq's post Kannan, Selva, Thilak kooda mild confusion'la irukkuRa mAthiri theriyuthu ..
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From: Thirumaran on 12th June 2008 10:12 AM [Full View]
I suppose when the movie released itself people would have talked lot about Priyamani's Character.
Whether we like it not, let us keep the things away. It is time to appreciate.
Let us all give the credit that a Tamil Actress got after a long gap.
Indeed some appreciation was needed for a movie like Paruthiveeran. Among General public that character was like by a lot.
Let us congragulate Priyamani
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:12 AM [Full View]
I disagree with that 200%. Originally Posted by NOV
I agree completely with this statement.
With Rajkiran's performance, many saw their father's in him. How many Nassers and others provided that feel to them. May be, Rangaao Rao could have performed as good as him, since he is also a gem of an actor. I think the role demands someone like Sivaji, RR or RJ. The same goes to Rajkiran in Nandha. It was a character for which Sivaji was approached. I find the same in Rajkiran's role in TT (he was the only saving grace of the movie for me. Not even cheran's direction !).
OTOH, Muthazhagu provides an instant feel to many guys who expect girls to roam around them without thinking about anything and without any brain ?
That is why, Genelia in SaSu attracts guys ! I have seen many telugu guys and over guys praising her role like anything. They also remember her character as 'Hassini'. Will that fall under the same line ? Certainly not for me
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:14 AM [Full View]
Nothing is 'final' in the world of statistics Originally Posted by Roshan
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 10:17 AM [Full View]
mora ponnu/payyan angle - why the hell girl didnt like him rite from beginning......or did PV become a mora payyan only after the hell girl fell in the hell well........
i clearly stated y i didnt like the characterisation - any characterisation based on a weak event will be knee-jerk.........and i felt the saving-from-well scene was pretty ordinary..........and anything adding up to it was just not convincing for me.......
and also, i said, i found her madurai slang was jarring whereas i felt saravanan's,karthi's and her mom's slang absolutely normal........
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:21 AM [Full View]
ohh....then u want "paartha udan kadhal"...vizhiyil vizhi modhi idhaya kadhavondru thirandhadhe" nu paatu podanum! Originally Posted by MADDY
enna maddy....the soft corner for a guy who saved her in younger age turning into love was not out of logic
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:22 AM [Full View]
BTW, I haven't seen OMKARA. Probably, the juries must have fallen at the climax and priyamani's performance. I think that will erase all her non-sense before that. May be, the kind of 'feel' (unarchi) they got would have made erased everything else from their mind.
As a girl, for acting in that scene - does she deserve it ? Everyone can have their own answer for this question.
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:23 AM [Full View]
enna maddy....the soft corner for a guy who saved her in younger age turning into love was not out of logic
enna kodumai ithu !
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:23 AM [Full View]
teknik pault Originally Posted by selvakumar
enna maddy....the soft corner for a guy who saved her in younger age turning into love was not out of logic
enna kodumai ithu !
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From: ajithfederer on 12th June 2008 10:23 AM [Full View]
Ennatha NA, ennatha ponga :P
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From: cancer on 12th June 2008 10:25 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Ennatha NA, ennatha ponga :P
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From: NOV on 12th June 2008 10:26 AM [Full View]
and what have they done to warrant such sarcasm? Originally Posted by selvakumar
why must ppl be ridiculed for their opinions? If you do not like his long posts, you are welcome to ignore them.
I can live with your praises for Rajkiran, altho I dont hold his role in high esteem. If all of us were to share the same opinion of everything, the world will become a boring place.
Let maturity and mutual respect dominate this forum.
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 10:28 AM [Full View]
kaadhal venaampaa - velakkumaathu pinji poidum-nnu sollura azhavukku pagai irundha ponnu adhu.......mora payyannu paartha, konjamavadhu oru soft corner munname irundhirukkanumla Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
ohh....then u want "paartha udan kadhal"...vizhiyil vizhi modhi idhaya kadhavondru thirandhadhe" nu paatu podanum!
enna maddy....the soft corner for a guy who saved her in younger age turning into love was not out of logic
as i said, it mite sound logical to u, but i felt it was very cliched and ordinary for me..............
selva, u hit the nail on head - i had the same thing in my mind..........actually PV's climax gave that movie evrything rite from BO success to recent national award........the "doom" factor surprisignly played the angel here
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:28 AM [Full View]
Sure NOV. Let us expect that in the hub ! Originally Posted by NOV
Let maturity and mutual respect dominate this forum.
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 10:30 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
if not caring for 'obvious' and waiting for the 'obvious'
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From: joe on 12th June 2008 10:37 AM [Full View]
NOV,
Though I am a fan of Nasser ,I feel nasser ,prakash raj or any living actor in tamil couldn't have done better than Rajkiran in Thavamai Thavamirunthu role . As selva said ,Many have seen their father in Rajkiran's character ..whao ..he did exceptionally well.
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:41 AM [Full View]
Ariyaadha Vayasu Puriyaadha Manasu
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
Adi Aaththi Rendum Parakkuthe
Chedi Pola Aasai Molaikkuthe
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
Vettaveli Pottalile Mazhai Vanthaa
Ini Kottaangguchchi Kudaiyaaga Maaridum
Thattaampuuchchi Vandiyile Siir Vanthaa
Inggu Pattaampuuchchi Vandiyile Uur Varum
O-Ho...Ariyaadha Vayasu Puriyaadha Manasu
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
Pallikkuudaththula Paadam Nadaththala
Yaarum Menakkettu Padikkala
Entha Kizhaviyum Sonna Kadhaiyilla
Kaattula Mettula Kaaththula Kalanthathu
Uravukku Idhu Thaan Thalaimai
Idha Usuraa Ninaikkum Ilamai
Kaadhalil Kadavule Naana
Avan Buumikku Thottu Vachchaan Thena
Podamaakki Nadamaakki Adi Aaththi Intha Vayasula
Ariyaadha Vayasu Puriyaadha Manasu
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
Karantha Paalaiye Kaambil Puguththida
Kanakku Poduthe Rendum Thaan
Kora Pullile Metti Senjchi Thaan
Kaalule Maattudhu Tholile Saayudhu
Uuraiyum Uravaiyum Maranthu
-Nadu Kaattula Nadakkuthu Virunthu
-Naththa Kuuttule Pugunthu
Ini Kudiththanam Nadaththumo Senthu
Adi Aaththi Adi Aaththi Adi Aaththi Intha Vayasula
Ariyaadha Vayasu Puriyaadha Manasu
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
Adi Aaththi Rendum Parakkuthe
Chedi Pola Aasai Molaikkuthe
Rendum Ingge Kaadhal Seyyum Neram
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:42 AM [Full View]
Kaththaazhak kannaala kuththaadha nee ennai
illaadha iduppaalay idikkaadhay nee enne (Kaththaazha)
Kaththaazhak kannaala kuththaadha nee enne
kuundhal koarvai gudisaiyai poattu
thanga jannalil kadhavinai poottu
kannay thalaiyittu kaadhal vilaiyaattu (Kaththaazha)
Kalakalavena aadum loalaakku nee
palapalavena poothth mealaakku nee
thala thalavena irukkum pallaakku nee
valavalavena peasum pullaakku nee
aiyaavay aiyaavay azhagiya paarunga
ammavum appavum ivalukku yaarunga
vennilaa sondhakkaringe (Kaththaazha)
Thaluthaluravana koondhal kai veesudhay
thuruthuruvena kangal vaai peasuthay
palapalavena parkal kan koosudhay
pagal iravugal ennai pandhaadudhay
unnOda kan jaada ilavasa minnaasam
aankoazhi naan thoonga nee thaanay panjaaram
un moochu kaadhal ringaaram (Kaththaazh)
thakita thakita thakita thakita
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From: Roshan on 12th June 2008 10:46 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
NOV,
Though I am a fan of Nasser ,I feel nasser ,prakash raj or any living actor in tamil couldn't have done better than Rajkiran in Thavamai Thavamirunthu role . As selva said ,Many have seen their father in Rajkiran's character ..whao ..he did exceptionally well. oru peNNOdu iravOdu iravAga OdipOga thittam pOttu, college'ku paNam katta vEndum enRu poi solli paNam kEtkum maganidam - iruppathaiyellAm surutti koduthuvittu kadaisiyil 'idhu pOthumAppA'nu kEtkum antha appAvithanam onRE pOthum. It took a couple of days for me to get over the effect of that particular scene.
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:46 AM [Full View]
in romantic classic mouna ragam, Originally Posted by MADDY
kaadhal venaampaa - velakkumaathu pinji poidum-nnu sollura azhavukku pagai irundha ponnu adhu.......mora payyannu paartha, konjamavadhu oru soft corner munname irundhirukkanumla Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
ohh....then u want "paartha udan kadhal"...vizhiyil vizhi modhi idhaya kadhavondru thirandhadhe" nu paatu podanum!
enna maddy....the soft corner for a guy who saved her in younger age turning into love was not out of logic
revathi first hates karthik...later when she came to know he a good guy she falls in love
here also later when she came to know abt him...she might have changed the mind!
titaniclaye jack saves rose from falling down...
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:47 AM [Full View]
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Neyyum naanum jodi thaan
Sernthu naanum aadhi thaan
Aatam pattam kudi thaan
Vandha kootam odhi thaan
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Ey thillayadi valiyama thilurinda niladima
Thilalangadi adhuvoma, thiruttu thanam panuvoma
Kuttrama? Aatha kuttrama solladima
Sanjikalam samathama
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Ey thoda thodanu nadakuran
Pada padanu sirikiran
Bada badanu irukiran
Koda kodanu kodaiyuran
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Ey pambarama suthuriye manthirana mayakuriye
Neethan, badava neethan en kanakku
Potta potta naan unnakku
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Chikku bukku railu vandi
Sitiraikum jailakatti
Chinna paiyan manasu mattum
Sila sila udaikudadi
Yenna, aatha yenna
Kalaasuthan, sernthu potta pattasu thaan
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Kanna moozhi yenna suttum
Meesa mudi kannam kuttum
Kai viralum kalla kuttum
Vaada, attan vada
Chinna machan yen manasa thika vachan
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Ohoohoh
Neyyum naanum jodi thaan
Sernthu naanum aadhi thaan
Aatam pattam kudi thaan
Vandha kootam odhi thaan
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Injimupe idupa azhaghi
Mozzhadupe udupazhaghi
Paper mutta pal azhaghi
Kotta parthu kaan azhaghi
Rangi manasa vangi
Yenga vacha?
Yendi enna ponga vache?
Ey thoda thodanu nadakuran
Pada padanu sirikiran
Bada badanu irukiran
Koda kodanu kodaiyuran
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Sitalatu kulutikalam
Kai kaatiyil thutikalam
Enoorele olinjikalam
Kuluthadiyile thedikalam
Vaa vaa, vaa vaa
Goba polatikalam
Paandi aatam adhikalam
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma
Mazha mozhannu yemma yemma…
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 10:47 AM [Full View]
Dar dar darna danakku nakkanu daranaka!!!
Dandana darana
Dandanakka darana!!
Kurviyoda pattu koluthungada veytu
Dandana darana
Dandanakka darana!!
Ulaga nee jeyacha unna nanjeypeen
Alaya koochalitta puyalavaan
Pirathen thai karuvil valarthen tamil karuvil
Athanaikum mela naama annan thambi da
Dandana darana
Dandanakka darana!!
Kurviyoda pattu koluthungada veytu
Dandana darana !!
Aiyy sontha kalil ninna soru podum buumi
Anubulla manisanellam aararivu saami
Saakkadaya thur eduthu santhanama maathu
Un vervaiyku sambalam than veppamara kathu
Yaroo sonnanu sollamaa
Nera pakkamaa nambathey
Pona pochunu pogathey
Aeyy varipuliyin kodu ellam varumai kodu agathey
Dandana darana
Dandanakka darana!!
Kurviyoda pattu koluthungada veytu
Dandana darana !!
Othaadi nee adicha nethiadi adipen
Mathapadi thoppulkodi vazhi nadapaen
Nejukulley patampoochi kaiya thatti parakum
En anjuu veral eppothumey ayuthama irukkum
En sappatil uppu kallu neeyadaa
En vetirukum sengal neeyadaa
En vegathuku vega thada illa da
Enna seendi paru seeripaayum singathoda pulladaa
Dandana darana
Dandanakka darana!!
Kurviyoda pattu koluthungada veytu
Dandana darana !!
Dandanakka darana!!
Ulaga nee jeyacha unna nanjeypeen
Alaya koochalitta puyalaaveen
Pirathathen thai karuvil valarthen tamil karuvil
Athanaikum mela naama annan thambi da
Dandana darana !!
Dandanakka darana!!
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From: Thirumaran on 12th June 2008 10:52 AM [Full View]
Sarna what is this This is not song related thread.
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 10:52 AM [Full View]
i knew u wud touch maniratnam...........there is no other option isnt it Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
..........thanks for acknowledging he is a benchmark for all tamil directors
Viv - i know, u r very famous for circular arguements...............i'm not telling minds never change.......infact, the love that develops within sivaji for radha in mudhal mariyadhai is also a dramatic change but look at the events and situations building up to it - mesmerising..........
i have no problems with the kid loving that boy - but the event that triggered it was not convincing for me and the characterisation that was built on this unconvincing turn was not NA worthy for me.......
btw, all makkals who think i'm a tamil drohi for not supporting priyamani's selection - i would surely appreciate her in front of north indians or east indians.............
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:58 AM [Full View]
i dont know what type of events u look forward for kids...scenes cant be developed romantically between kids! Originally Posted by MADDY
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i have no problems with the kid loving that boy - but the event that triggered it was not convincing for me and the characterisation that was built on this unconvincing turn was not NA worthy for me.......
enough shots were shown how they were closer when they were young!
regarding mani factor,
when i think abt romance in tamil cinema...mouna ragam came to mind..not for mani factor
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 11:00 AM [Full View]
anway bye..
collegeku kelambiyachu
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From: joe on 12th June 2008 11:01 AM [Full View]
Personally I know many working in overseas tend to call their father after the watch this movie Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by joe
NOV,
Though I am a fan of Nasser ,I feel nasser ,prakash raj or any living actor in tamil couldn't have done better than Rajkiran in Thavamai Thavamirunthu role . As selva said ,Many have seen their father in Rajkiran's character ..whao ..he did exceptionally well. oru peNNOdu iravOdu iravAga OdipOga thittam pOttu, college'ku paNam katta vEndum enRu poi solli paNam kEtkum maganidam - iruppathaiyellAm surutti koduthuvittu kadaisiyil 'idhu pOthumAppA'nu kEtkum antha appAvithanam onRE pOthum. It took a couple of days for me to get over the effect of that particular scene.
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 11:01 AM [Full View]
i dont know what type of events u look forward for kids...scenes cant be developed romantically between kids!
enough shots were shown how they were closer when they were young!
Vivasaayi,
Maddy says the way the character evolves from the scratch, completely erased whatever was good about it (for him).
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From: joe on 12th June 2008 11:02 AM [Full View]
what Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
anway bye..
collegeku kelambiyachu College student-a?
Not doing vivasaayam
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 11:02 AM [Full View]
were they close before the incident??? i thot they were at loggerheads with each other................ Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i dont know what type of events u look forward for kids...scenes cant be developed romantically between kids!
enough shots were shown how they were closer when they were young!
regarding mani factor,
when i think abt romance in tamil cinema...mouna ragam came to mind..not for mani factor
y didnt nenjaithhai killadhe or punnagai mannan cross ur mind - thats maniratnam
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 11:03 AM [Full View]
i knew....she first hates,then has soft corner for saving her,then they share their merry days(ariyadha vayasu song) etc! Originally Posted by selvakumar
i dont know what type of events u look forward for kids...scenes cant be developed romantically between kids!
enough shots were shown how they were closer when they were young!
Vivasaayi,
Maddy says the way the character evolves from the scratch, completely erased whatever was good about it (for him).
it was shown in a decent manner for a flash back!
so i said enough shots had been shown
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 11:04 AM [Full View]
that incident erased the bitterness between them...simple! Originally Posted by MADDY
were they close before the incident??? i thot they were at loggerheads with each other................ Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i dont know what type of events u look forward for kids...scenes cant be developed romantically between kids!
enough shots were shown how they were closer when they were young!
regarding mani factor,
when i think abt romance in tamil cinema...mouna ragam came to mind..not for mani factor
y didnt nenjaithhai killadhe or punnagai mannan cross ur mind - thats maniratnam
u need reason for her falling for him after that?
for that we need the shoes of different individuals and check what they think..everybody doesnt think like us!.
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 11:07 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i dont belive that incident was convincing enuf for me ......y cant u think putting my shoes/????
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 11:07 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Sarna what is this This is not song related thread. then wt is this thread for.... only for bashing priyamani , rajkiran etc...
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From: sarna_blr on 12th June 2008 11:10 AM [Full View]
rendu pErOda shoes size'um same dhaanaa Originally Posted by MADDY
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i dont belive that incident was convincing enuf for me ......y cant u think putting my shoes/????
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 11:17 AM [Full View]
I doubt anyone else would do that. They do know what will happen in the climax Originally Posted by MADDY
i dont belive that incident was convincing enuf for me ......y cant u think putting my shoes/???? (just kidding guys. Nothing personal.. )
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From: MADDY on 12th June 2008 11:21 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
I doubt anyone else would do that. They do know what will happen in the climax Originally Posted by MADDY
i dont belive that incident was convincing enuf for me ......y cant u think putting my shoes/???? (just kidding guys. Nothing personal.. ) ......hey if u put my shoes, u'll have great parties over the weekends.......dont worry......if u put muthazahgu's shoes , then u might bleed ur way to glory -
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From: NOV on 12th June 2008 11:40 AM [Full View]
joe, emttan magan la nassar paaththiram reminded me of my father; santhosh subramaniyaththula prakash raj character reminded thirumaran of his father... idhellaam sagajam; thats the beauty of tamil films from those days itself.
to me, rajkiran was good in that role, thats it. put anyone there and he would have done same or better. maththappadi, "no other living person can do that role" - ellaam Etrukkolla mudiyaadha ondru.
anyway, each to his own.
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From: P_R on 12th June 2008 11:58 AM [Full View]
Then, in my not so humble opinion - with the possible exception of music - nearly no other category will manage to have annual awards. Originally Posted by kannannn
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From: Roshan on 12th June 2008 12:01 PM [Full View]
Prabhu, Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Then, in my not so humble opinion - with the possible exception of music - nearly no other category will manage to have annual awards. Originally Posted by kannannn
Have you seen all those movies that were nominated for this year's award?
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 12:11 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
oh.. Probably, from here onwards, myself and Roshan shall ask you or his highness equanimus - Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
'இங்கு தாங்கள் கூறிய அனைத்தையும், இரண்டு வரிகளுக்கு மிகாமல் சுருக்கி வரைக"
everytime when we arrive at different analysis based on our limited 'reading skills' and wait for the judgement to be delivered by him.No, Selva. I simply don't get how what I've written would give way to this "equation." Anyway, since I'm asked to finish this in two lines, I did NOT say that. Originally Posted by selvakumar
(Priyamani > Rajkiran in TT ) < Rajkiran in Nandha & PaandavarBhoomi
The above equation is what I got, after reading his posts. Again, we can have our own equations since everything lies in the way one interprets the statistics.
These are the words.
Originally Posted by equanimus
As I've already explained, it's obvious that I rate Rajkiran's performance in TT higher than Priya Mani's in PV. There's a big difference between "not bad per se" and "neat performances striking right notes throughout, but not startlingly brilliant." In any case, I'd explained the whole thing again here yesterday. I don't get what we are still discussing about. Originally Posted by equanimus
Yes, I brought up Pandavar Boomi to "illustrate" what I was trying to say with an example. The point I was trying to make: Performance-wise, the two aren't drastically different. (You'd probably label this too as "statistics.") But, it's the character itself, its benignity, and the affection it evokes out of the audience that makes the difference. Originally Posted by selvakumar
And, yes, Prabhu Ram disagreed with me. So? Anyone can challenge my viewpoint. (Like Nov seeems to have done, in the context of Muthazhagu. I'll respond to it separately -- starting with an advanced apology for the condescension. Even as I wrote that, I wanted to add a disclaimer that I'm not condescending to anyone. I thought someone would point it out.) What's wrong with it? I myself think that my point about "inexpressible love" is quite sloppily (hurriedly) put.
I don't get how reaps of words with so many Is, likes, dislikes, prefers and rates can be interpreted as statistics, but anyway, I'll let that pass. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Again, we can have our own equations since everything lies in the way one interprets the statistics.
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From: selvakumar on 12th June 2008 12:21 PM [Full View]
equanimus,
Sorry for getting little personal with you on that. Probably, I shall try to avoid replying to your posts (as suggested by NOV). I feel it would be better for both of us. Hope you agree with me.
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From: thilak4life on 12th June 2008 12:36 PM [Full View]
Correct me if I'm wrong, Zero has been dismissive of the awards itself (witha typical articulatory writeup), than judging the winner per se. Perhaps he could have done without evaluating the brilliance of an actor (like his opion of RK being superb in Nanda, and not eulogizing popular choices like TT)
Is the discourse a classic case of "Much ado about nothing"? dreary dreary me!
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From: P_R on 12th June 2008 12:37 PM [Full View]
No. Which why I qualified my opinion the way I did ! Originally Posted by Roshan
Prabhu, Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Then, in my not so humble opinion - with the possible exception of music - nearly no other category will manage to have annual awards. Originally Posted by kannannn
Have you seen all those movies that were nominated for this year's award?
But I have seen many of the winners of the past - including ones we cherish and celebrate till date - to call them superior attempts in flawless filmmaking/acting etc. would be a stretch.
Use every man after his desert,
and who should 'scape whipping? - William Shakespeare
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From: thilak4life on 12th June 2008 12:40 PM [Full View]
Agneepath...agneepath...agneepath Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: P_R on 12th June 2008 12:41 PM [Full View]
Thilak
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 02:38 PM [Full View]
No problem, Selva. Whatever keeps you happy. As a matter of fact, I don't agree with you, in that it "would be better for me." I don't have any kind of delusion that I'd do better without your responses (whatever its tone may be) to my post. If I'm allowed to go on a tangent, I'll admit that I don't even expect apologies from people for "getting personal" at first place. My interest in posting in this forum is only with respect to (Tamil) cinema, which amounts to saying that my interest is squarely "impersonal." So, I'd only ignore the "personal" and discuss the "impersonal." Originally Posted by selvakumar
equanimus,
Sorry for getting little personal with you on that. Probably, I shall try to avoid replying to your posts (as suggested by NOV). I feel it would be better for both of us. Hope you agree with me.
I've responded to your post and what I'd appreciate more is your reading and responding to it (as to why you thought I was inferring that Priya Mani deserved the award or what have you). You may choose not to do that as well, just like I may, at some point later. All is fine.
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by NOV
I agree completely with this statement. Originally Posted by selvakumar
rajkiran's role has been done a zillion times by character artistes like nassar, prakashraj, rangarao, major, etc etc. we need not even bring NT here.
whereas scope for heroines has always been lacking for tamil movie leading ladies and priyamani has done very well.
acocrding to equanimus, everyone remembers MUTHAZHAGU instead of priyamani. isnt that what acting is all about?
Join the club NOV I am not left alone with regard to my interpretation of Eq's post Kannan, Selva, Thilak kooda mild confusion'la irukkuRa mAthiri theriyuthu ..
Frankly, I don't think you have to pull in others to reiterate what you're saying. Thilak responded to my post saying that, compared to Black, Rajkiran's performance was better. I agreed with him. Now what? Likewise with Kannan. He pointed out that they could still choose to not give the award to anyone. (And, if you'd care to look beyond me, this was not a response to me in particular, but a general point on the lines of "among the contenders, she seems to be the best." Even Thilak put forth the same point, isn't it?) I said, of course, they can.
I just hope you go back and read my post and see that I was simply talking about what *I* think of some performances ("statistics," if you will), not defending the choice of Priya Mani (and for god's sake, I was dismissive of her performance) or anyone else. And, neither Thilak nor Kannan, seem to have read my posts the way you and Selva have. So, you (and Selva) are left alone (borrowing your words), as far as I see.
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 03:26 PM [Full View]
NOV, Originally Posted by NOV
I admit that I had put it somewhat sloppily, in trying to put it succinctly. I meant to point out how our sympathy or affection for the character might just dominate our rating of the performance. It sounds a bit condescending, but I'm not excluding myself here, honestly. Like everyone else, I also tend to overrate a performance for various reasons. My comment on Rajkiran's performance in TT was also exactly on these lines. These characters evoke sympathy or affection from us in a very direct way, and that might make us overrate the performance.
I definitely see where you're coming from when you say that Rajkiran's role in TT is a archetypal role that is often seen in Tamil cinema. Muthazhagu on the other hand is not be stock material, but the way the film treated the character was unimpressive, to say the least. I agree that the scope of female characters have always been pathetically low in Tamil cinema, but I don't think PV fared any better. I largely concur with Selva's overall point about the way the film treats Muthazhagu's character. The way I see it, it reduces the woman character to some kind of an angel figure, to evoke the man's tragedy.
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From: kannannn on 12th June 2008 03:41 PM [Full View]
Hence my constant refrain that they could have done worse. I seriously believe that suspending the award for a year will send a strong signal to movie makers that they are not obliged to make a selection. It could also save the awards from lobbyists. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Roshan on 12th June 2008 03:56 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 12th June 2008 03:56 PM [Full View]
equanimus, subtracting the character to evaluate the performance is something I find more than difficult. I find it even self-defeating as a rasikan (is there non-pompous synonym in English ?).
"It is such a role that anyone could have done it impressively" is too philosophical a question. The only "fact" up for evaluation is, that the actor happened to do such a role and how well it turned up. avvaLavu dhaan.
On a tangential note, how would Woody Allen/Goundamani take it if it was said that their performance was not good. :P
I doubt if there has been as much range and space as Rajkiran had. I also doubt (actually I don't) if it has been done this well ever. Any further and my sacrilege count will go up one more :P Originally Posted by NOV
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 04:08 PM [Full View]
I completely agree, PR. I'd especially want to highlight this -- 'The only "fact" up for evaluation is, that the actor happened to do such a role and how well it turned up. avvaLavu dhaan.' Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
"Subtracting the character to evaluate the performance" reads like some chemical formula to find out the correct result. This is embarrassing to even state, but I am not at all saying that one should access the performance without getting influenced by the character (whatever that even means!). Like I had referred to Hitchcock earlier, even if the actors could be used just like "cattle," amidst a herd of cattle, there are some good performances! That is to say, it is indeed both the character and the actor that make up a "performance." What I am trying to say is, beyond the niceties of the character and the way the audience accesses it, a great performance would go further and enliven the character. adha thAn solla vandhEn.
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 04:43 PM [Full View]
PR, Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Just elaborating further with respect to this line from your post. I sincerely hope that you don't think I am "reassessing" Rajkiran's performance because "it is such a role that anyone could have done it impressively." That's a superficial and dismissive remark we often hear with respect to some performances.
That's definitely not the way I see it. What sort of role it is or how "stock" it is, is largely irrelevant. It could be a "stock" role or some "first-of-its-kind, complex" role, a great performance would always bring it alive in an enchanting manner and elevate it to a different level, all the same. An excellent little example I can give among recent films is what Irrfan Khan did to his role in 'Life in a... Metro.'
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From: equanimus on 12th June 2008 04:50 PM [Full View]
>>Digr.>>
Roshan,
You said so yourself, and when I pointed out that they actually were not saying the same thing as you did, you're wearing a cooling glass? Nice.
P.S.: My last response regarding this matter.
<<End digr.<<
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From: P_R on 12th June 2008 06:24 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
I was originally going to use the term "Comparative Statics". But it was fraught with risk that it could be misread as statistics - which, as a concept, is already having a thin time today.
I got that. We only disagree on whether Rajkiran managed to do that or not in TT. Originally Posted by equanimus
Your sincere hopes are not dashed. Originally Posted by equanimus
I was responding to NOV's post where he said it was a role similar to ones essayed by many including the nuanced thespian Major Sundarrajan.
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From: thilak4life on 12th June 2008 10:18 PM [Full View]
Dude, don't be over cautious. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I doubt if there has been as much range and space as Rajkiran had. I also doubt (actually I don't) if it has been done this well ever. Any further and my sacrilege count will go up one more :P Originally Posted by NOV
Major..what a joke! Nov would deserve the best comedian award hands down. No offence.
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From: Vivasaayi on 12th June 2008 10:26 PM [Full View]
major during the famous scene where rajkiran asks whether the amount is enough Originally Posted by thilak4life
Dude, don't be over cautious. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I doubt if there has been as much range and space as Rajkiran had. I also doubt (actually I don't) if it has been done this well ever. Any further and my sacrilege count will go up one more :P Originally Posted by NOV
Major..what a joke! Nov would deserve the best comedian award hands down. No offence.
ennapaaaa.....indha panam podhuma....is this amount enough for u(in high decibel)...nee anga romba jaakradhaya irukanum...you must be very careful
major is a good artist....but this charecter could be justified only by ranga rao.
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From: jaiganes on 12th June 2008 10:42 PM [Full View]
I guess we can replace obvious with 'anything' in your statement. Originally Posted by Roshan
Sorry I am not good at explaining the obvious Originally Posted by equanimus
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by equanimus
The dearth of works (among what I've got to see) that I actually adored or loved that year (2006) doesn't help much either. I didn't think Priya Mani was bad per se (in any case, not one of the worst things about the film), but it's not a remarkably well enacted performance either. The relevant question to put to someone who expresses his/her disapproval at the choice is, whom does he/she think the award should have gone to.
The way I see it, a "best performance" award is about the remarkableness in a performance that enables and enlivens the role. (I think, the audience's inexpressible love for Muthazhagu manifests itself as this award. No wonder people refer to her as 'Muthazhaghu' herself.) For that matter, I don't think of Raj Kiran's performance in 'Thavamai Thavamirundhu' (to pick a role that was exalted as a "best performance" candidate for 2005 awards) as startlingly brilliant either. It's a neat performance striking right notes throughout, but it doesn't go the extra mile as far as I'm concerned. I'd rate the actor's dynamic performance in 'NandhA' as much superior. Contradictory statement'nu idhathaan solluvaangaLO
I am reminded of a dialogue of Prabhu's spiritual guru "adai ennamA kOrkkuRaangadA"
I don't get what's contradictory in what I've written there. That I consider Raj Kiran's performance in Nandha superior? Or that I've admitted that, I, as someone who didn't think much of Priya Mani's performance, am not able to instantly recollect a different performance that I really liked in 2006?
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From: MrIndia on 12th June 2008 10:53 PM [Full View]
how many criticizing this decision..
tamil actors-ku
National award kudukalaanaalum.. en kudukalanu thittraanga..
kuduthaalum.. en kuduthaangannu thittraango
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From: kannannn on 12th June 2008 11:12 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
I haven't seen any of the RK movies being discussed here, but I can visualize Major saying the dialogue. He is from another era, so lets leave him out. Goyyapazhams and seethapazhams.
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From: njv on 13th June 2008 04:01 AM [Full View]
I am happy for Priyamani. Job well done.
However this movie doesnt deserve the credits. Heavily inspired from 16 Vayathinilae. Poor attempt by Amar. Few self proclaimed "critics" liked this movie (just like they liked Veyyil, which is another movie that doesnt deserve the credits it has got) and created so much hype. - This is just my opinion.
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From: NOV on 13th June 2008 06:19 AM [Full View]
Thanks equanimus; I understand what you are saying.
Prabhu Ram, I would not expect anything more (or less, depending on what one is looking for :P ). How can anything go down further when it's already too deep down there? just kidding, but I still want to see you in Trichy
thilak4life, I'd probably die of shock if you agreed with anything I said, and seeing your views on many things, I am very happy being on the other side. No offense of course.
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From: thilak4life on 13th June 2008 12:07 PM [Full View]
Chill. Looks like you're getting too serious for a tongue-in-cheek comment. Nevermind. 
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From: P_R on 13th June 2008 02:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Glad at least one of us is into depth Originally Posted by NOV
PMed you Originally Posted by NOV
.. but I still want to see you in Trichy
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From: P_R on 13th June 2008 03:01 PM [Full View]
Kannan I wasn't referring to the really bad ones who manage to win. We can forget those blots soon enough. It was a purely introspective question. Even the awards that went to performances which were 'good', in our opinion, are not flawless. We are able to accept them only with certain reservation that it had its good parts. Given the competition is annual I am for keeping it going. Otherwise it gets mired in impossible across-the year universal comparisons. Originally Posted by kannannn
Hence my constant refrain that they could have done worse. I seriously believe that suspending the award for a year will send a strong signal to movie makers that they are not obliged to make a selection. It could also save the awards from lobbyists. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
To thiriyai-kiLLi-pOttu-fy for next year: if Jothika bags it for Mozhi next year I would neither be surprised nor disappointed. My reasons are the same as this year's.
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From: equanimus on 13th June 2008 08:54 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I was originally going to use the term "Comparative Statics". But it was fraught with risk that it could be misread as statistics - which, as a concept, is already having a thin time today. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
a role similar to ones essayed by many including the nuanced thespian Major Sundarrajan.
Yes; and frankly, I don't live in an isolated world, so to say. When I revisit the film, I might change my opinion as well. When I saw it in the theatres, I didn't really like it (the film, that is). I thought Cheran's narrative not just incidentally bracketed its characters into conveniently defined boxes, but went out of its way to do so. Such levels of straitjacketing didn't let me access the character in a more sensitive manner. Not to mention the self-righteousness. For instance, the mUththa marumagaL of Rajkiran. She's so effortlessly real that you are all set to raise your hands to applaud, only to realise that the film channels the very "real-ness" to pass a judgement on her. If you know what I mean. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I got that. We only disagree on whether Rajkiran managed to do that or not in TT. Originally Posted by equanimus
Honestly, Thilak, I've no clue. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
And, Vivasaayi, yours is easily one of the coolest avtars that I've seen here.
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From: jaiganes on 13th June 2008 08:55 PM [Full View]
Why is it that only Priyamani got the award?
Had the entire team of Paruthiveeran got the award, there would have been a much bigger uproar from our friends questioning the decision wont there be.
I congratulate the National Awards selection committee for making a fabulous decision that maintains consistency . By that I would lke you guys to understand that this actress got the best actress nod from the state awards committee (which only rigs the best actor award category), The OSEAN awards (not rigged and not naive people you know) and offcourse Film journo's awards. So a bunch of people sitting on a pile of opinions shitting on this award is totally shocking to me. I just wonder if someone had expressed this kinda opinion on Kamal's performance in Dasavatharam thread or about Rajini's performance in Shivaji thread, the kind of opposition would have overwhelmed them and the moderators. It is a sad fact that Priyamani is not exactly Simran (who has only hip shakes to show for acting and no voice either) that entire clan of geniuses are pouncing on this award declaration!!!
Thamizhanai ethanai serupaal adithaalum thagum. for this kinda tea kadai bench attitude.
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From: equanimus on 13th June 2008 08:59 PM [Full View]
naan nenchEn nee soltte !
Exactly, PR. This is what I want! This piece. (Enough of postmodern pastiche, eh?) You stole the words from my mouth. I was introspecting on these very lines, and that's what I'd expressed in my first post. Now, I truly understand why the subject of your post read: "naan nenchEn nee soltte !" Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: sriranga on 13th June 2008 09:54 PM [Full View]
Priyamani
Just a question for vishayamarindha aasamigal.
In 1993, Devar magan along with Roja swept the awards.
But, Kamal whose performance was very good lost the best actor award to mithun in Tahedar katha. I haven't seen the bengali film.
was mithun's performance better than kamal's? I think it should be.
IMO, Kamal's performance in DM was way better than Indian.
But, he won an award for Indian but missed out on DM.
In the end, it all depends on the competition.
I think Priyamani deserves the award.
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From: P_R on 13th June 2008 10:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
And an unwarranted clarification on the familiarity of nee against neenga here - love the ambiguity of the English 'you'. The pastiche never endeth - it is a quote from the underrated SV Shekar drama: Yaam iruka bayam En.
I didn't get that. Originally Posted by equanimus
Jaiganes, disagree with several parts of your post.
Particularly the one about your dim take on the Simran's acting talent.
What was this thamizhan bit about ??!!
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From: jaiganes on 13th June 2008 11:11 PM [Full View]
Prabhu,
There is this general lamenting about thamizhan's talents not recognized at national level, that I have been hearing growing up for the best part of my life.
During the recent years our artistes have been getting national awards in respectable categories. At the beginning there was this murmur campaign saying that Kalaignar arranged awards for person X, Vaiko arranged awards for person Y etc.,
Now here we have an actress getting awarded not just by the national awards committee, but by OSEAN, by film journos etc., and then national award is also given, we have people not just bashing her performance, but also questioning the committee, casting doubts. If you dont like her performance, fine just sit tight and dont comment - But to denigrate the performance in this manner is unbecoming of decent human. That is why I said for this attitude - THAMIZHANAI ETHHANAI SERUPPAAL ADITHAALUM THAGUM. Nowhere in the world would a community feel bad for recognising one of their own except in Thamizh naadu.
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From: Nerd on 13th June 2008 11:54 PM [Full View]
Wait a minute, if dinesh karthik scores a 50 and dhoni scores a 100 and if the juries allow karthik to walk away with the MOM, won't it look stupid? Or would you be just happy that a thamizhan won I think hubbers who are against priya winning the award are just disappointed that she won and other better performances (abirAmi, simran) were ignored.. Clubbing *this* with thamizh-pattRu is a little far-fetched, IMO..
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From: Nerd on 13th June 2008 11:56 PM [Full View]
its more like the disappointment we had when Scorsese won it for the departed and was denied an oscar for his other, much better efforts..
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 12:15 AM [Full View]
Nerd you are missing my point.
I am not saying that Priya mani shouldn't have won if there was a superlative performance from other artistes who were nominated. But that is something that is between the members of the commitee and how they vote. We need not worry abt that. Even there, note that Priya Mani has been consistently commended for her performance by more than one jury and it is not wholly unjust on her part tp expect or even deserve the award.
What really pushed my button is this.
Fine she got an award - well some one doesn't like her performance - they wrote it in Paruthiveeran thread on and on. I dont mind that - it is fair play. However she got a Freaking national award and a thread has been opened for that - forget your lame anology of MOM Dinesh Karthik Vs Dhoni.
You have no words of praise - I have no problem
However you spew your venom over her performance, the credibility of national award selection etc on this thread, this is pure indigestion over a recognition of one our own and people are pissed off that it is not Simran who is getting this award.
What the heck has come over us?
If the award were to be bestowed to a Telugu artiste, all telugu forums would have heaped praise and given bouquets to that artiste. It is only in Thamizh forums that one of our own gets the award and we not only choose to discredit her performance, we also try to cast doubts and aspersions on the whole process for that.
And Nerd, it is your thalaivar in your avatar who told the whole world "Hats off to Priyamani" for the climax performance!!!!
Freaking Godssake!! I guess Rajinikanth knows a good performance when he sees one and we should praise him for publicly appreciating a fellow artistes's performance. It is that performance which has finally landed a national award and people seem to be running out of gelusil and have started defaecating the hub with their indigestions. Why dont you guys roasting her performance take a break from this thread. Come praise Kareena for her mostly mute Dolly sharma performance in Omkara.!!!
Good heavens!!
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From: P_R on 14th June 2008 11:29 AM [Full View]
True. I have struggled understand what all that was about. And if the kind voicing of opinions against the likes of Priyamani is the kind of thing that has denied "thamizhan" his due all these years, so to speak, then I would rather have that denied that subscribe to some sort of chauvinism. Originally Posted by jaiganes
When a work, IMO, is of substandard quality and is recognized at the national/international level there is a risk that the work can be understood as 'representative' - in some way - of Tamilness. That is enough ground for getting agitated. Originally Posted by jaiganes
தமிழனுக்கு ஒரு பெருமை கிடைக்கிதுன்னா எல்லாரும் சந்தோஷப்படணும் is too blunt a prescription. It cannot be decoupled from some subjective evaluation of திறமான புலமை.
Just because she won it for a Tamil film !!! Come on ! Originally Posted by jaiganes
I disagree. Every other film comes with a poster mentioning Rajini's praise. He stopped going to many previews because they were using his name like this. Originally Posted by jaiganes
Rajini is generous with praise, largely genuine praise, for everyone and it is my opinion that he is easily impressed.
So ??? This argument is even weaker than the older one "a winning performance in a Tamil movie should be met with applause just for Tamil's sake". Originally Posted by jaiganes
The disappointment over Simran not making it and Priyamani making it is completely a matter of choice. I don't think anyone was taking into account this "one of our own" jazz. Originally Posted by jaiganes
I find consciousness about such things quite unhealthy.
இந்த மாதிரி கண்டதுக்கெல்லாம் தமிழுணர்வு பொங்குவது நம் சாபக்கேடு.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th June 2008 11:36 AM [Full View]
Congrats Priyamani! But I think Mozhi Jyothika deserves this award than Priya.
Priyamani or Karthi I felt their dialogue delivery, body language were more like Mounam Pesiyadhe Suriya's?
ennamo! enakku Paruthiveeran padam avvalava pidikila.
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From: MrJudge on 14th June 2008 11:44 AM [Full View]
Yes, recently I could catch MP again and felt Surya's performance is similar to Karthi's performance in many places, esp. in the scene when a newly married couple walking together on sideways and surya's reaction to it. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Priyamani or Karthi I felt their dialogue delivery, body language were more like Mounam Pesiyadhe Suriya's?
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 01:10 PM [Full View]
Dude Prabhu!!
you are getting your subjective judgement of her performance (and by the same token - over glorified view of Jothika and Simran) get better of you.
I know and understand that you have different opinion of her performance when compared to millions who liked her in the movie, gentlemen and women of OSEAN jury, National Award jury and film journos jury. However that doesn't mean that anyone with difference of opinion over her performance can come to the hub, go to a thread meant for congratulating her and other national award winners from our state (not soumitra chatterji kooterji whatever) and start casting aspersions on the intelligence of the awards committee members , etc., Basic decency of congratulating a winner , if it is difficult from your side, well I pity you and the rest of the 'CRITICS' and geniuses who have poured their limitless knowledge on ACTING in this thread. So in 21st century, we should not appreciate our own winners - that is some form of chauvinism. It is an eye opener for me. Why did not we bother to see why some other guy won the national award and not our Kamalagaasan in the year of Mahanadi? Because we dont give a damn!! We know that our kamal's performance was good enough for us. Priya Mani's performance if so fatally flawed would have meant that the climax of the movie would have simply fallen flat and the movie wouldn't have run even for 20 days (for such an offbeat theme).
Once again I repeat, what millions of thamizhars loved and appreciated, what some neutral jury of OSEAN who were moved to tears after watching Priya Mani's performance acknowledged and what has been confirmed by our national awards committee is termed 'freaking substandard quality' by you, then I will state again - Our people deserve to be slapped with chappals over and over again.
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From: Roshan on 14th June 2008 01:13 PM [Full View]
Prabhu
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 01:24 PM [Full View]
Roshan
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From: joe on 14th June 2008 01:26 PM [Full View]
உண்மை தான் .ஆனால் தமிழின் மீது காழ்ப்புணர்வும் , தமிழுணர்வு கொள்வதே ஏளனத்துக்கூரியதாக கருதும் ஒரு கூட்டத்தை நம்முள்ளே கொண்டுடிருப்பதும் அதை விட பெரிய சாபக்க்கேடு (not related with discussions here on NA ). Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 01:38 PM [Full View]
enga keyboardlayum ??? irukku.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????
podhuma?
Idhu eppdi irukku?
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From: Vivasaayi on 14th June 2008 01:42 PM [Full View]
when the performances like mahanadhi,guna,anbe sivam,iruvar which definitely deserved national award...dint receive...nobody really realised that they deserved for that year!
how many pages where discussed on those issues...now for priyamani
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From: joe on 14th June 2008 01:54 PM [Full View]
Ithu thaan unga thamizhuNarvaa? Originally Posted by jaiganes
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From: MrJudge on 14th June 2008 06:02 PM [Full View]
jaiganes:
Why make such a big deal about NA? I don't understand. If she gets it this year, fine, if she didn't get it, that is fine too. We all know that she did her best, what required for the movie and she won other awards for her performance from critics too, the movie was a super duper hit, so why why bother about these hubbers?
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From: rajasaranam on 14th June 2008 06:54 PM [Full View]
Definitely yes! But Is Acting or Art perse measurable? just like a cricket score or a running race which is measured in minutes? Originally Posted by Nerd
Please provide the proof/scale with which a kareena/konakana sen are being judged here better than Muthazhagu?
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 07:42 PM [Full View]
ha ha ha ha ha Originally Posted by joe
Ithu thaan unga thamizhuNarvaa? Originally Posted by jaiganes
I was typing from a MAC computer and to see suddenly ???? in the screen freaked me out. So no disrespect intended. sorry.
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From: jaiganes on 14th June 2008 08:00 PM [Full View]
Those time and age, net and the hub were not so popular to discuss them and offcourse I was not there in the hub. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
when the performances like mahanadhi,guna,anbe sivam,iruvar which definitely deserved national award...dint receive...nobody really realised that they deserved for that year!
how many pages where discussed on those issues...now for priyamani
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From: P_R on 14th June 2008 11:55 PM [Full View]
Uh...surprise surprise ! I personally don't think Priyamani's performance was bad in this film. In fact I have mentioned in this thread - if you did read some of the early posts in this thread - that she was indeed impressive in many parts in the film. Originally Posted by jaiganes
But all that is completely beside the point.
The interpretation of the purpose of the thread is completely yours. I only see it as a platform to air views about the National Awards. Originally Posted by jaiganes
We have ripped movies by doyens apart.
உனக்கு ரொம்ப தெரியுமா-ன்னு கேட்டா என்ன சொல்ல முடியும் ?
எல்லாமே சிற்றறிவுக்கு எட்டிய வரை தான்.
That is disclaimer is always implied. In the Hub we have sat upon judgement on more weighty issues - the quality of NA juries' decisions is really too small a thing to leave aside as sacred.
Jaiganes, I refuse to think in terms of "sides". Originally Posted by jaiganes
As I did like Priyamani in PV, if I were to borrow your vocabulary, then I am technically arguing for the other "side" here. And the side can't be asked to shut up just because they dare to dismiss the learned juries of NA without hesitation and do not share your reverence.
But I do see your point how we find it easy to cast judgement on "acting" rather than any other technical domain. For instance, PV's editor Raja Mohammed has won the National Award - there is not a single post of praise or brickbats till now.
I see this as an acknowledgement that we don't know enough about a technical department like editing - atleast from seeing the film once - that we are able to voice any opinion - either positive or adverse. However, when it comes to acting, we remember the nails-on-blackboard effect that the player had on us, in some scenes and find it easy to be up in arms. The final product is simply more visible to the "lay observer". avvaLavu dhaan.
These are your own words, though you try to present it as if it were an interpretation of mine. I only said you cannot appreciate winners just because the award for a Tamil movie. Which is quite different than how you have tried to present it above. I can only hope your misquotation is because you misread my post. I self-indulgently quote myself below: Originally Posted by jaiganes
Then you made some points about BO performance of PV as a effect of Priyamani's performance and that millions of folks loved her. Points taken, I just fail to see why that should compel everyone here to applaud her. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Anyway, the general direction of your post, as I understood (correct me if I got this wrong) was : if a Tamil were to be honored at the National level - then it is the bounded duty of other Tamil's to stop judging and start applauding. I find that ridiculous - to say the least.
Joe, I agree with you. But it is - to a small extent - cyclical too.
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From: Vivasaayi on 15th June 2008 12:12 AM [Full View]
they were just examples! Originally Posted by jaiganes
Those time and age, net and the hub were not so popular to discuss them and offcourse I was not there in the hub. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
when the performances like mahanadhi,guna,anbe sivam,iruvar which definitely deserved national award...dint receive...nobody really realised that they deserved for that year!
how many pages where discussed on those issues...now for priyamani
i mean when a deserved award was rejected we dont argue!
awardu kuduthachu..ini priyamani overa make up a potutu tvla engileesla pEtti kodukuradha nenacha
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From: Vivasaayi on 15th June 2008 12:13 AM [Full View]
exactly! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Definitely yes! But Is Acting or Art perse measurable? just like a cricket score or a running race which is measured in minutes? Originally Posted by Nerd
Please provide the proof/scale with which a kareena/konakana sen are being judged here better than Muthazhagu?
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From: Nerd on 15th June 2008 01:48 AM [Full View]
Then why do you (we) say iLayarAjA's music is superior to all others Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Definitely yes! But Is Acting or Art perse measurable? just like a cricket score or a running race which is measured in minutes? Originally Posted by Nerd
Please provide the proof/scale with which a kareena/konakana sen are being judged here better than Muthazhagu? There is a scale for everything and in MY scale simran scores above Priya Mani.
And I retire, I have congratulated priya mani in this thread and even said that I liked her performance.
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From: rajasaranam on 15th June 2008 03:43 AM [Full View]
Good now we can go ahead somewhere Originally Posted by Nerd
Then why do you (we) say iLayarAjA's music is superior to all others There is a scale for everything and in MY scale simran scores above Priya Mani.
And I retire, I have congratulated priya mani in this thread and even said that I liked her performance. Your Arguement is flawed because in a running race or a cricket match there are visibly/Sceintifically/Logically measureable quantities/qualities which can never be argued against.
But in Art/Acting the judgement is variable and highly subjective from person to person and also it does not have a measurable quality.
Hence your analogy of MOM doesnt hold good here.
There is no universal scale! either it is your scale or mine
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From: Roshan on 15th June 2008 12:05 PM [Full View]
over make up'oda sErthu avanga outfits'a nenechu pArthA .. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
they were just examples! Originally Posted by jaiganes
Those time and age, net and the hub were not so popular to discuss them and offcourse I was not there in the hub. Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
when the performances like mahanadhi,guna,anbe sivam,iruvar which definitely deserved national award...dint receive...nobody really realised that they deserved for that year!
how many pages where discussed on those issues...now for priyamani
i mean when a deserved award was rejected we dont argue!
awardu kuduthachu..ini priyamani overa make up a potutu tvla engileesla pEtti kodukuradha nenacha
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From: MrJudge on 15th June 2008 12:07 PM [Full View]
Are you guys talking about Simran's performance from yesteryears or some movie in 2006/07?
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From: MrJudge on 15th June 2008 12:09 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
awardu kuduthachu..ini priyamani overa make up a potutu tvla engileesla pEtti kodukuradha nenacha Yeah, she is one of those dark skinned natural beauties but spoiling it by cosmetics.
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From: equanimus on 16th June 2008 01:17 AM [Full View]
>>Digr. (Last from my end.)
Indeed, sir, but the pastiche, like you do suggest, runs deeper. Wasn't that originally Janakaraj's catchline in some '80s flick? (In general, what's more wonderful with S. Ve. Shekar's dramas than the overarching pastiche in everyone of them?) And, I hope you'll refrain from giving such unwarranted clarifications unless there's a reference that you think didn't come through well enough. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Ah, that was me trying to rush up my thoughts figuratively rather than articulately. I meant to just extend on the point about self-righteousness, so this is going to be utterly redundant. Advanced apologies. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I didn't get that. Originally Posted by equanimus
The only manner in which the film portrays some normal (and real) tensions and insecurities of a newlywed bride is by vilifying the new bride. In contrast, the other marumagaL, Cheran's wife, is very demure and has nothing less than profusely sugarcoated words for her in-laws; which seem to be the characteristic qualities of a "good" and "well-behaved" daughter-in-law in the universe of the film. This is not really the central motif of the film, but, the portrayal of many other things in the film were one-dimensional along these same lines.
<<End digr.
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From: P_R on 16th June 2008 12:40 PM [Full View]
Oh ! Didn't know that. Originally Posted by equanimus
Hmm.....I think there was space for us to see her PoV too. When she arrests her husband's brushing off of her issues with "naan enna loosA ?", her sorrows are quite visible. And if at all it is possible for us to see things from her PoV - atleast momentarily - it is because she was "real" and not a regular Tamil cinema "adangAppidAri marumagaL". Originally Posted by equanimus
And the issues chosen to show the rift were just awesome. She crosses swords ably with Rajkiran in the "Kuspu" scene. This is exactly what I meant when I said the character and the performance cannot be separated out too much. The first DIL (think her name was MeenAL) was just perfect. A flat line like"திடீர்னு சமைக்க்ச்சொன்னா எப்பிடி சமைக்கிறது ?....ரெண்டு பேத்துக்குத்தான் சமைச்சிருக்கு" and simple things like refusing to hand the baby to Saranya when in Cheran's flat (her whole demeanour in that visit to the flat) is just great work IMO.
That's Cheran's characters-for-a-purpose school. Originally Posted by Cheran
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From: equanimus on 16th June 2008 02:54 PM [Full View]
I see what you mean, but I thought there isn't much in the film to evoke the audience's empathy for her character, squarely staying on the other side. Hence my remark. The depiction of the character and her conflicts with her ever-so-freakishly-nice in-laws are very real, and the film only manages to moralise about how it's all about loving your parents (and thus your in-laws). Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Yes, I completely agree with you in that the issues chosen to show the rift were pretty good; like I already mentioned, taken straight out of real life. I thought she was especially superb in that scene when she visits Cheran's new flat. I remember mentioning it in my write-up on the film too, back then. Anyway, I haven't revisited the film since. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: P_R on 16th June 2008 03:29 PM [Full View]
Largely true that the film is positioned against her and stays on the "other side" but IMO there was some space provided
In the Kuspu episode Rajkiran speaks dismissively to her. When she retorts Saranya pounces one her quite threateningly. This happens again when the conflict comes into the open. Similarly in the scene where she is shown to "shirk" kitchen duties there is some space to see why she would be upset. Originally Posted by equanimus
Overall, I agree that the scales were loaded against here...just not completely. Cheran's best film yet.
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From: equanimus on 16th June 2008 04:26 PM [Full View]
Yes, surely, I do remember Saranya's tiffs with her, only to be cooled off by Rajkiran in those occassions. I was referring to the overall presence of an extremely benign patriarch in the family. (On a related note, let's not forget that the name the lady comes up with for her kid in the film is itself clearly designed to elicit ridicule from the audience, thus making the other side seem all the more fair and reasonable; says a lot about where the film stands with regard to her, IMO.) Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Hmmm, I understand. Probably, I need to revisit this film. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: Murali Srinivas on 19th June 2008 11:41 PM [Full View]
Was going through all the posts in this thread all these days without being judgemental. Read a article in a Malayalam magazine today about the awards and my mind immediately jumped to this thread. The article while expressing its happiness about Malayalam cinema winning 9 awards in total (6 in feature fulms section and 3 in non feature category) also points out to certain "not happy" things that took place in the selection process.
It talks about the discussions that took place for deciding on the Best actor award. Buddhadas Gupta, the Bengali film director who was the Jury chairman of the award committie, it seems was more than favourably inclined towards Soumitra Chatterjee and went out of the way to award him the best actor for 2006.
There was a Malayalam movie called "Karuthha Pakshigal" directed by Kamal. The main protagonist in the movie is a Tamil and it dealt with a life of a mobile iron man. Kerala has a lot of such mobile iron men and almost all of them are from Tamilnadu. Here the man, a widower has three children with one among them being a blind girl. The story deals with the trails and turbulations he undergoes to restore the eyesight of his daughter.
Mammootty had given out a spelendid performance. This film had been selected as the best social/family welfare movie. At the same time the jury chairman had refused to consider Mammootty for the award. During the discussions he had told it seems that he (Mammootty) had already won three National awards and so let us not take him into account, the jury chairman had argued. He had cited the age of Soumitra Chaterjee and had told it seems that he may (S.Chatterjee) not act hereafter. Thilakan (for the film Ekantham) was there in contention till the final round it seems but the jury chairman's words strongly carried the day for S.chatterjee, the article points out. Since the jury could not put aside Thilakan's performance, he having been denied twice the same (the second time his Perunthachhan was pipped at the post by Big B of Agnipath in 1990 but it was clear that political pressure had played its part then), he was given the special jury award, the article points out. If the no of times won or the age is going to be the deciding factor for deciding the best then God save the award, it concludes.
The fact that both the affected persons are from Kerala must have played a part in the magazine coming out with such an article cannot be ruled out. But the fact is, every year the Malayalam media religiously reports about the inside happenings during award selections.
Bottomline is you need more than artistic capability to win an award at the national level. No wonder NT never got one.
Regards
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From: ajithfederer on 20th June 2008 12:00 AM [Full View]
Whatever it is congrats to priyamani for a National award