ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு் - விமர்சனம்
மண்ணையும் மனசையும் பின்னி பிசைந்து படம் எடுப்பதில் தங்கருக்கு நிகர் அவரே! இந்த ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டும் அப்படிப்பட்ட கதைதான். பண்ருட்டி பக்கத்தில் அமைந்திருக்கும் பத்திரக்கோட்டை கிராமம். அங்கே வாழ்ந்த மாதவர் படையாட்சி, வேலாயி, அவர்கள் சார்ந்த வாழ்க்கை என்று நகரும் கதையில் பிழிய பிழிய அழுகையும், கவலையும் ஒட்டிக்கொள்ள, இந்த இரண்டரை மணி நேர செலுலாய்ட் சிற்பத்திற்கு அடிமையாகி போகிறது மனசு. (உள்ளே போகிறவர்களுக்கு கர்சீப் அவசியம்)
திருட்டு மாங்காய் பறிக்கும் சிறுசுகள், சாயங்கால சந்தையில் ஏலம் கேட்கும் பெருசுகள், சந்தடி சாக்கில் காதல் வளர்க்கும் இளசுகள் என்று தங்கரின் கண்கள் கிராமத்து நிஜங்களை உள்வாங்கியிருக்கிறது. இந்த நிஜங்களையெல்லாம் விஞ்சி நிற்கிறது சத்யராஜ் என்ற மஹா கலைஞனின் நடிப்பு.
கிராமத்தில் தலைநிமிர்ந்து நிற்கும் மாதவர் படையாட்சி, தன் பிள்ளைகள் துணையோடு வயலில் பாடுபடுகிறார். இரண்டு மகன்களுக்கும் திருமணம் ஆனபிறகும் பணத்தையும், பட்டுவாடாவையும் அப்பா மாதவரே பார்க்க, பெண்டாட்டிகளின் துணையோடு அப்பாவை கேள்வி கேட்கிற துணிச்சல் பிறக்கிறது மகன்களுக்கு. எதிர் வீட்டு பங்காளியின் தூண்டுதல் வேறு! இந்த லட்சணத்தில் கடைக்குட்டி மகனுக்கு அந்த ஊர் வண்ணானின் மகள் மேல் காதல்! கண்டிக்கிற அம்மாவிடம், அவள் இல்லையென்றால் வாழ்க்கையே இல்லை என்று போராடுகிறான். அவமானத்தால் கூனிக்குறுகி போகும் முதியவர்கள் இருவரும் பிள்ளைகளிடம் சொல்லாமல் வீட்டை விட்டு வெளியேறி வேலூர் பக்கத்தில் குடியேறுகிறார்கள். ஆறு வருடங்கள் போயே போய்விடுகிறது. போன இடத்தில் பெண்டாட்டியை பறிகொடுக்கிற மாதவர் திரும்பி ஊருக்கு வருகிறார். வந்த இடத்தில்...?
கிராமத்து மனிதர்களுக்கேயுரிய ரோசத்தோடும், பெருந்தன்மையோடும், மாதவர் படையாட்சியாகவே உருமாறிவிட்டார் சத்யராஜ். கோவிலில் மனைவிக்கும் மகனுக்கும் நடக்கும் விவாதத்தை கேட்டு அப்படியே உறைந்து போகிற காட்சியிலாகட்டும், பல வருடங்கள் கழித்து மகனை பார்த்து வேதனையில் துடிப்பதாகட்டும், மனைவியை பாம்பு தீண்டிவிட, ஐயோ என்று அலறித் துடிப்பதாகட்டும், கடைசி கடைசியாக பேரனை கொஞ்சிவிட்டு, வேறெதுவும் தர இயலாமல் இறுகிப் போவதாகட்டும், இனிமேல் நடிக்க எதை மிச்சம் வைத்திருக்கிறார் சத்யராஜ்? விருதுக்கமிட்டிகளுக்கு சத்யராஜின் விலாசம் பழகிவிடும் போலிருக்கிறது.
சத்யராஜுக்கு சமமான போட்டி என்றால் அது அர்ச்சனாவுக்குதான். அடித்தொண்டை கிழிய 'வாழும் முனியே... இப்படி பண்ணிட்டியே...' என்று அவர் அலறும் காட்சிகளில் மெய்சிலிர்த்து போகிறது. வா என்ற ஒருவார்த்தைக்காக கணவனின் கைபிடித்து நடக்கும் இந்த காதல் கிழவி கண்கலங்க வைத்திருக்கிறார்.
இந்து முஸ்லீம் உணர்வுக்கு எடுத்துக்காட்டாக மட்டுமல்ல, இதுவல்லவோ நட்பு என்று சிலாகிக்கவும் வைக்கிறார் நாசர். அதே நேரத்தில், தான் வளர்த்த ஆடுகள், சேமித்த பணம் எல்லாவற்றையும் கொடுத்த மாதவரை, எப்போதாவது வந்து பார்த்திருக்கலாமே இந்த காஜாபாய் என்ற கேள்வியும் எழும்புகிறது நாசரை பார்க்கும்போது.
கிராமத்து வண்ணான் வீட்டு பெண்ணுக்கு பெரியய்யா வீட்டு பையன் மேல் காதல். கூனிக்குறுகி அவர் வீட்டில் சோறு கேட்கும் அவலத்தை படித்த பெண்ணான அவளால் தாங்க முடியுமா? அந்த தவிப்பை அற்புதமாக வெளிப்படுத்தியிருக்கிறார் புதுமுகம் இன்பநிலா. (நிறம் என்னவோ அமாவாசை?)
அந்த கோவணத்து ஆசாமி, நம்ப டான்ஸ் மாஸ்டர் சிவசங்கரல்லவா? ரொம்ப பழசாக இருந்தாலும் நம்பிக்கை அளிக்கும் புதுவரவு.
மனசு பொங்கி கண்ணீருக்கு வழிவிடுகிற நேரத்தில் எல்லாம் அதை விரைவாக செய்துவிட வைக்கிறது இசை. அற்புதம் பரத்வாஜ். மார்கழியில் குளிச்சு பாரு...வேலாயி... போன்ற பாடல்கள் உள்ளிட்ட எல்லா பாடல்களிலும் இசை ராஜாங்கம் நடத்தியிருக்கிறார் பரத்வாஜ்.
அந்த ஊருக்கே அழைத்து போன உணர்வை அளிக்கிறது ஒளிப்பதிவு.
எல்லாம் கச்சிதமாக இருந்தும், திருஷ்டி பொம்மை போல் தலைநீட்டும் சில இடைச்செறுகல்களை தவிர்த்திருக்கலாம். (உ.தா- இப்பல்லாம் இந்த கொடிதான் நம்ப ஊர்ல அதிகம் பறக்குது. அவங்களுக்குதான் செல்வாக்கும் அதிகம்).
விலை மதிப்பற்ற நோட்டு
தரவு - தமிழ்சினிமா.காம்
9 Ruphai Nottu
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 10:59 AM [Full View]
I will better skip this movie. Thangar avar padangala paarkaathavangala adikka porathaa solli irukkaar.. Test panni thaan paarpomae ? :P
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 11:21 AM [Full View]
Inga Ithu blocked Maddy.. :P enna video athu ?
Originally Posted by MADDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEjwP...eature=related Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: MADDY on 3rd December 2007 11:30 AM [Full View]
Enna koduma saravanan idhu Originally Posted by selvakumar
Inga Ithu blocked Maddy.. :P enna video athu ? Originally Posted by MADDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEjwP...eature=related Originally Posted by selvakumar
nee enna nenachha
.......btw, i still dont get answers y Thangar is named after bollywood super* Amitabh 
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 11:34 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Enna koduma saravanan idhu
nee enna nenachha .......btw, i still dont get answers y Thangar is named after bollywood super* Amitabh 
Youtube blocked inga.. Neenga etha nenachu sirikureenga 
thangaroda appavukku amitabh pudichirukkalaam..
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From: MADDY on 3rd December 2007 11:46 AM [Full View]
that video was itself prabhu's EKSI Originally Posted by selvakumar
Youtube blocked inga.. Neenga etha nenachu sirikureenga
thangaroda appavukku amitabh pudichirukkalaam.. ........when i saw ur post, i wanted to say EKSI, but wanted to reply with that video itself......
pinna, avanga appa-vukku MGR/Shivaji ellam pudikkaadha??
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 11:49 AM [Full View]
rhyming miss aagumla .. athaan Originally Posted by MADDY
that video was itself prabhu's EKSI Originally Posted by selvakumar
Youtube blocked inga.. Neenga etha nenachu sirikureenga
thangaroda appavukku amitabh pudichirukkalaam.. ........when i saw ur post, i wanted to say EKSI, but wanted to reply with that video itself......
pinna, avanga appa-vukku MGR/Shivaji ellam pudikkaadha??
ithukku thangar eppovaavathu pathil solli irukkaara
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 11:53 AM [Full View]
Maddy/Selva,
"Interesting" vivadham...
TB oru velai coolie-padai adhibar-a irundha product/project vaangaadha clients-a veratti veratti adipparo..
[Jokes apart, sila samayam avar manakkumural nyayama thaan irukku]
Watched the launch in Sun TV yesterday...
VM was visibly emotional when talking about the film... Missed Mani sir's speech (and BR's too )...
Vijay expressed his willingness to act with TB and swore his allegiance and loyalty to Rajini and Sathiyaraj..
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 11:56 AM [Full View]
nalla guess.. Ithu unmaiyaa irukkalaam Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Maddy/Selva,
"Interesting" vivadham...
TB oru velai coolie-padai adhibar-a irundha product/project vaangaadha clients-a veratti veratti adipparo..
Watched the launch in Sun TV yesterday...
VM was visibly emotional when talking about the film... Missed Mani sir's speech (and BR's too )...
Vijay expressed his willingness to act with TB and swore his allegiance and loyalty to Rajini and Sathiyaraj..
btw, coolie padai varumaanam *black money ah illa white money ah*.. thangarukku colour layae pudikkaatha ore colour black
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 12:15 PM [Full View]
What connection does VM have with this movie? Has he penned the lyrics? Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Maddy/Selva,
"Interesting" vivadham...
TB oru velai coolie-padai adhibar-a irundha product/project vaangaadha clients-a veratti veratti adipparo..
[Jokes apart, sila samayam avar manakkumural nyayama thaan irukku]
Watched the launch in Sun TV yesterday...
VM was visibly emotional when talking about the film... Missed Mani sir's speech (and BR's too )...
Autograph-la nadikka maRuthavar - ippO TB padathula nadikka aasapaduRaar.Vijay expressed his willingness to act with TB
Rajini loyalty is for obvious reasons and athu oor aRintha jaalra but why Sathyaraj?and swore his allegiance and loyalty to Rajini and Sathiyaraj..
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From: MADDY on 3rd December 2007 12:23 PM [Full View]
simple, vijay follows sathyaraj's comedy style.....all that "enunga-nna, appadiya-naa all belongs to sathyaraj only/...... Originally Posted by Roshan
Rajini loyalty is for obvious reasons and athu oor aRintha jaalra but why Sathyaraj?
CR, even i missed Mani's speech, but later someone told, "Mani sir sonna madhiri, title-laye oru yekkam irukku" , that "something missed" feeling
problem with cheran and TB is that they think they are the only ppl. making good movies in tamil
......Bala, Ameer are way ahead of them
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From: Sanjeevi on 3rd December 2007 12:36 PM [Full View]
thatstamil.com reviews
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 12:39 PM [Full View]
Oh! appa ethuvumE original illaiyA Originally Posted by MADDY
simple, vijay follows sathyaraj's comedy style.....all that "enunga-nna, appadiya-naa all belongs to sathyaraj only/......
I dont want to comment about TB but please dont compare Cheran with Ameer. Cheran's achievements are more and far better than Ameer. It's way too early to infer on Ameer. Bala and Cheran compare paNNuRathu acceptable. But I would rate Cheran above Bala , mainly because - human emotions kAttuREn pErvazhinnu sollittu- Cheran doesnt potray weirdos.problem with cheran and TB is that they think they are the only ppl. making good movies in tamil ......Bala, Ameer are way ahead of them
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From: Sanjeevi on 3rd December 2007 12:47 PM [Full View]
[quote="Roshan"]Oh! appa ethuvumE original illaiyA Originally Posted by MADDY
simple, vijay follows sathyaraj's comedy style.....all that "enunga-nna, appadiya-naa all belongs to sathyaraj only/......
No, Vijay follows Koundamani's style in diaglog delivery too, he inherits nna from Goundar
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From: P_R on 3rd December 2007 01:16 PM [Full View]
Empathy is easier when we see someone like us on screen. Bala has chosen the tougher route. Either that or those who like Bala are wierdos themselves Originally Posted by Roshan
Coming to Thankar Bachan. He has made one good film and a bunch of ordinary ones. His exaggerated opinion of himself and periodical interviews dissing the whole world around him are highly irritating. Pallikkoodam starts with an epigraph from Francois Truffaut. Name dropping is all fine but it hasn't translated into his work. Am still skeptical about ORN. paarppOm,
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From: selvakumar on 3rd December 2007 01:20 PM [Full View]
When I read cheran's reply to thangar in one of the magazines, I was happy to see the change in cheran. His reply to thangar was ultimate
"Makkal virumbuvathu namathu padaippugalayae, namathu pechai alla"
But even after that TB hasn't realized that.
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 01:21 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Some seem to think that meaningful cinema necessarily has to be serious, dark, slow and revolving around poverty and/or villages....
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From: joe on 3rd December 2007 01:58 PM [Full View]
I don't know what do you mean ? But I read the novel 'Ompathu Rupah Nottu' and it was worth reading ,but not necessarly the movie also will be equally interesting ,as most of the novel-based movies failed to visualaising the novel with equal effect. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Some seem to think that meaningful cinema necessarily has to be serious, dark, slow and revolving around poverty and/or villages....
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 02:10 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Empathy is easier when we see someone like us on screen. Bala has chosen the tougher route. Either that or those who like Bala are wierdos themselves 
Coming to Thankar Bachan. He has made one good film and a bunch of ordinary ones. His exaggerated opinion of himself and periodical interviews dissing the whole world around him are highly irritating. Pallikkoodam starts with an epigraph from Francois Truffaut. Name dropping is all fine but it hasn't translated into his work. Am still skeptical about ORN. paarppOm,
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 02:13 PM [Full View]
The general attitude prevalent in TN is that for a film to be good, it has to be dark, showing someone's poverty, usually in a rural setting. Conversely, if a movie has the qualities, it automatically becomes "meaningful" cinema, according to "those" people. Originally Posted by joe
Biographical films fall in the same category IMO (The film Periyar is a case in point)...
And strangely, it is the same mindset which dismissed comedy films as "idhu comedy padam dhaane", "but that was just a comedy movie" or "there was really no story in that film" (i heard this comment being made about Chennai 28... A film does not become good or bad by virtue of its genre...
These "pretending" films are characterized by unnatural and slow dialogue delivery (often by actresses who never get their accents right), slow movements and suchlike...
IMO, oru padam nalla padama illayaa-ngaradhu andha padam edukkapadum vidathilum, sollum vishayathai eppadi solraangannu paathu thaan solla mudiyum... mela sollappatta "themes"-a handle panradhaala mattum oru padam "nalla" padam aagadhu-ngarudhu dhaan en karuthu...
Like i said, i'm not ruling out ORN without seeing it but i'm just voicing my apprehension, seconding PR's opinion...
P.S:
Another irritating defense coming from Meaningless Tamil Masala Maniacs (MTMMs) is to confuse and equate meaningless Tamil masala with Hollywood movies in the genres of special effects, action etc... This argument arises out of the same mentality...
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does
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From: joe on 3rd December 2007 02:14 PM [Full View]
Absolutely vaild points and fully agree with you Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
The general attitude prevalent in TN is that for a film to be good, it has to be dark, showing someone's poverty, usually in a rural setting. Conversely, if a movie has the qualities, it automatically becomes "meaningful" cinema, according to "those" people. Originally Posted by joe
Biopics fall in the same category IMO (The film Periyar is a case in point)...
These "pretending" films are characterized by unnatural and slow dialogue delivery (often by actresses who never get their accents right), slow movements and suchlike...
IMO, oru padam nalla padama illayaa-ngaradhu andha padam edukkapadum vidathilum, sollum vishayathai eppadi solraangannu paathu thaan solla mudiyum... mela sollappatta "themes"-a handle panradhaala mattum oru padam "nalla" padam aagadhu-ngarudhu dhaan en karuthu...
Like i said, i'm not ruling out ORN without seeing it but i'm just voicing my apprehension, like PR
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 02:15 PM [Full View]
Very true but ithu matraiya sila pErpOna Directors'kum porunthum Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Some seem to think that meaningful cinema necessarily has to be serious, dark, slow and revolving around poverty and/or villages....
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:22 PM [Full View]
Conversely, people say to the effect that films like "Mahanadhi" is just another dark, realistic, and melodramatic film which is overhyped.
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From: joe on 3rd December 2007 02:25 PM [Full View]
மகாநதியில் அப்படி வலிந்து திணிக்கப்பட்டதாக எதையும் நான் உணரவில்லை. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Conversely, people say to the effect that films like "Mahanadhi" is just another dark, realistic, and melodramatic film which is overhyped.
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From: equanimus on 3rd December 2007 02:26 PM [Full View]
Well, in my books, Bala is heads and shoulders (and feet, I might want to add) above the rest. It's not just the dark themes, but the overarching humanism and deep sensitivity that draw me to his films. The world and the characters that inhabit it in his films are not two-dimensional placeholders of the "yeah, we all live in a remote village, you know?" variety. His films have all been dark, but as much as some of the characters (the protagonists even) are marginalized people, the rest are just common people that one would see in those streets. They're marginalized only in the realms of Tamil cinema.
Ha ha! Seriously though, I don't think it's fair to label his films as "weirdo," as many critics are doing. Even in the worldly sense (as in, no offences to "weirdos"!), I can think of only Siththan as a real "weirdo." That said, after all the talk about Bala films being total "weirdo" material, I'd like to see a reasonably straitjacketed film from Bala. I'm sure he would come up with a good one. But that's probably just a hypothetical statement as the elements of looming darkness is very much organic to him as a filmmaker. In that sense, I doubt if it will ever happen. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Empathy is easier when we see someone like us on screen. Bala has chosen the tougher route. Either that or those who like Bala are wierdos themselves Originally Posted by Roshan
As for Thangar Bachchan, erm, I think even azhagi is significantly overrated, but that's just me, I think! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 02:27 PM [Full View]
Yevan avan! Originally Posted by thilak4life
Conversely, people say to the effect that films like "Mahanadhi" is just another dark, realistic, and melodramatic film which is overhyped.
Another fallout of 'that' thinking is entertainment and meaningful cinema is dichotomous. naama ellorum enna research pannava adam paakkarom.. ellam adhe pozhudhupokku dhaen
For some of us, movies like Mahanadhi, Mullum Malarum etc happen to be the epitomes of entertainment...
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:27 PM [Full View]
Naan ungala sollaliyE! Originally Posted by joe
மகாநதியில் அப்படி வலிந்து திணிக்கப்பட்டதாக எதையும் நான் உணரவில்லை. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Conversely, people say to the effect that films like "Mahanadhi" is just another dark, realistic, and melodramatic film which is overhyped.
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 02:29 PM [Full View]
Partly agree. Originally Posted by equanimus
In addition to this, you've also talked about something i very much agree with - not sure if it was here or in your blog - Bala's dark but very real sense of humor. Really, wicked maan!
One negative of Bala, i find is the acting in his films - While the supporting cast is usually quite good, his leads come up with rigid and performances, often going overboard.
The worst i can think of is Layla (Sithan is totally unacceptable to me as ive often mentioned here because of the fundamental flaw in characterization which renders the acting useless)
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From: joe on 3rd December 2007 02:31 PM [Full View]
கவலை வேண்டாம் .என்னை சொன்னதாக நான் கருதவில்லை .உங்கள் கருத்துக்கு வலு சேர்த்தேன் .அவ்வளவே! Originally Posted by thilak4life
Naan ungala sollaliyE! Originally Posted by joe
மகாநதியில் அப்படி வலிந்து திணிக்கப்பட்டதாக எதையும் நான் உணரவில்லை. Originally Posted by thilak4life
Conversely, people say to the effect that films like "Mahanadhi" is just another dark, realistic, and melodramatic film which is overhyped.
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
I think Rosenbaum put it nicely,
specifically, market forces that are wrongly perceived as "natural" reflections of what most people want. I don't believe that anyone knows what most people want, including most people, because to speak about such a thing without any consideration of what the actual choices are is being disingenuous. The wider availablity of films on DVD is certainly a major development, and this has become much more evident since I wrote the book in the late 1990s. But this doesn't count for much if people don't have a good understanding of what's out there and/or what's interesting or important about it.
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 02:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does I happened to see the dubbed version of "Krish" recently on Vijay TV. Couldn't stand more than 20 mins - specially after the introduction and first few scenes of the heroine 
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
"Chennai-28" for example is just seen as a pop corn film. Some even find it to be an offbeat film. To my mind, that's the real "entertainment"..
As for Bala, he's my favorite from the new wave (excl. Kamal and Mani) I agree with Equanimus about the sensitivity with which he handles his characters (contrary to the popular belief) Often the characters behave well within cinematic limits and realms of their backdrop (social class mainly.)
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
Quote and Unquote !! Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
"Chennai-28" for example is just seen as a pop corn film. Some even find it to be an offbeat film. To my mind, that's the real "entertainment"..
As for Bala, he's my favorite from the new wave (excl. Kamal and Mani) I agree with Equanimus about the sensitivity with which he handles his characters (contrary to the popular belief) Often the characters behave well within cinematic limits and realms of their backdrop (social class mainly.)
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From: crajkumar_be on 3rd December 2007 02:39 PM [Full View]
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does I happened to see the dubbed version of "Krish" recently on Vijay TV. Couldn't stand more than 20 mins - specially after the introduction and first scenes of the heroine
Just to clarify, I haven't seen Krish, and i didn''t get into the argument of whether Krish is a good film or not but my point was that some people come to the defense of "commercial" movies (watch the quotes), by pointing to Spiderman. "Shoot 'em Up" (which i heard could give Captain stern competition) would be apt for comparison, not Spiderman
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From: Roshan on 3rd December 2007 02:46 PM [Full View]
Got it Bala ! Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does I happened to see the dubbed version of "Krish" recently on Vijay TV. Couldn't stand more than 20 mins - specially after the introduction and first scenes of the heroine
Just to clarify, I haven't seen Krish, and i didn''t get into the argument of whether Krish is a good film or not but my point was that some people come to the defense of "commercial" movies (watch the quotes), by pointing to Spiderman. "Shoot 'em Up" would be apt for comparison, not Spiderman
I couldn't resist mentioning about my experience. It was absolutely horrible
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 02:47 PM [Full View]
Yes, our overman Masala movies compared to likes of "Spiderman" is blasphemy. The best analogy is with B-grade Hollywood action flicks.
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From: equanimus on 3rd December 2007 03:20 PM [Full View]
Oh, absolutely. The man has a wicked sense of humour. pithAmagan comedy track is so obscenely funny! The lines could be loud, obscene or what have you, but they send you rolling down the floor laughing. (Sample a rollicking Surya shouting out, "ALak kollappAkkurA, Adi asanju variyE, kunthANi!") Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
In addition to this, you've also talked about something i very much agree with - not sure if it was here or in your blog - Bala's dark but very real sense of humor. Really, wicked maan!
By the way, I strongly recommend the autobiographical series he wrote in Anandha Vikatan. An interesting peek into the man, lucidly written, extremely candid, at times funny, and at times poignant.
While Surya's performance was simply fabulous in the film, a total riot to my mind and of the scene-stealing variety, I thought Laila was, ahem, quite riotous too. And, I know I'm probably the only one to say so. I despise her idea of "acting," she grated on my nerves even in her much-appreciated performances like the one in uLLam kEtkumE, and her performance in nandhA was also close to nothing. But, in this film, I loved her way-over-the-top act. It's probably all thanks to the lines, but still it's quite a feat to have Laila mouth a piece of dialogue and still retain the humour, or funniness if you will. [In fact, coming to think of it, I'd even go a step further and claim that the scenes are so funny because Laila's role and her over-the-top performance is such an effective foil to Surya's. C'mon, do you think the girl's outrage at Sakthi would have been as effective had she not been such a loudmouthed oaf? And, of course, "lUsAppA nI?" is part of the pop-culture already!] Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: thilak4life on 3rd December 2007 03:36 PM [Full View]
and she couldn't pull it off... (In fact, Vikram as Sithan could be excused to be a decent performance comparatively, as the characterization was the major grouse, Surya was excellent, and Sangeetha was surprisingly effective)had she not been such a loudmouthed oaf
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From: equanimus on 3rd December 2007 03:54 PM [Full View]
And, 'Chennai 600028' is the piéce de résistance of this year for me. (Those who've seen me shouting this from the rooftops already, please pardon!) In my view, it's much too superior to the critically acclaimed films like Paruthiveeran.
Thilak, it worked for me just by virtue of how the role is conceived and those insane lines. Which is why I am not talking about what she did to the role. When I saw the film, these things hardly mattered and I wasn't put off (which invariably happens to me otherwise whenever Laila appears onscreen). I was just laughing out loud! Originally Posted by thilak4life
Just the way she says, "uruttu pA, uruttu!" cracks me up. I don't understand why she's ripped apart for her screaming act despite the very same screaming lines working well in the film. That is what I meant to say.
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From: Nerd on 4th December 2007 07:11 AM [Full View]
1. No strong storyline in both. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does
2. Kids are BIG fans of those movies.
3. Even some grown-ups are huge fans (the degree and the number varies) of those super-heros
4. Those movies generate huge revenues
I guess we are not talking about spessal effects here
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 07:23 AM [Full View]
So? Originally Posted by Nerd
1. No strong storyline in both. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
A meaningless Tamil masala does not fall under the same genre as, say Spiderman. OTOH, "Krish" does
2. Kids are BIG fans of those movies.
3. Even some grown-ups are huge fans (the degree and the number varies) of those super-heros
4. Those movies generate huge revenues
I guess we are not talking about spessal effects here
The fact still remains that we can't compare apples and oranges.
Revenues, kids and adults fan-following is secondary to the argument.
If i go to Spiderman, i fully expect Spiderman to "fly" and do such stuff (just to pick on a small example). That's what i expect.
If i go to Guru Sishyan, i expect a laugh riot and i don't mind at all when Rajini does magic and produces xerox copies - it's fun.
I don't give a damn about logic. Charlie Chaplin padathula edhukku logic? Comedy-oda essence e exxageration dhaan. Adhu illama comedy kedayadhu (often). The same can be said of other genres like special effects, action etc.. However, when a movie is intended to be something else (pretentious!), it doesn't make sense to compare it with the movies of the aforementioned kind. In fact, there is NO genre in HW comparable to this
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 08:01 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
wow, i have always been of the view that good movies neednt be dark.......PV, i doubt whether will stand the test of time...... ......
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 08:03 AM [Full View]
Chennai - 28 any day
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From: Kalyasi on 4th December 2007 08:04 AM [Full View]
I also go with Chennai - 28 ...
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 08:15 AM [Full View]
try revisiting PV - romba kevalama irukku...... Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Chennai - 28 any day
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From: Roshan on 4th December 2007 09:29 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
try revisiting PV - romba kevalama irukku...... Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Chennai - 28 any day Ithu ethirpArthathuthAn. It's not only you Maddy, I have heard this from couple of others too. ithukkuthAn sonnEn - it's way too early to infer on Ameer and compare him with Cheran or Bala.
PS: Ameer aduthathA hero-va nadikkiRaar. PaakkalAm eppadi varuthunnu. Heard that Pa.Vijay is also acting in a movie
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From: MrJudge on 4th December 2007 10:42 AM [Full View]
And the sun rises in the west again. Originally Posted by MADDY
I agree with MADDY here.
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From: MrJudge on 4th December 2007 10:54 AM [Full View]
Yes, it was an interesting one. His childhood days, the problems he created to his family and how he was struggling during the making of Sethu everything was good and kept the interest going. Originally Posted by equanimus
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From: P_R on 4th December 2007 10:55 AM [Full View]
Reminds me of BAlayyA's dialogue in ThillAnA MohanAmbAL: nAttiyathula, pEr..........pOnavanga Originally Posted by Roshan
Very true but ithu matraiya sila pErpOna Directors'kum porunthum Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Exactly. This is the problem. But it is actually a worldwide problem. Originally Posted by Roshan
In his finest short story ever: "The Clicking of Cuthbert", P.G. Wodehouse takes potshots at 'serious' literature. Russian in particular. Here is a sample: Originally Posted by Wodehouse
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From: MrJudge on 4th December 2007 10:58 AM [Full View]
I rate PV better than ch-28. I have seen similar kind of sports theme based movies in English. Though ch-28 is different from those movies, it still falls into that category but PV is an authentic Tamil movie. I can't see that kind of movie coming out any other place in the world except kodambakkam. So PV
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 11:04 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
I respect your view. But chennai - 28 is still an *Authentic Tamil movie with natural portrayal of chennai life*.
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 11:24 AM [Full View]
"Chennai 600028" wins every day of the week and twice on Saturdays & Sundays. It's an authentic Chennai film by-the-by
Regarding "Authenticity" - give me a sophisticated film* any day. Precisely why I rate Mani Ratnam high. As for the one who balances sophistication and authenticity - we know who that is.
*By-the-by an example would be the lack of authenticity in "Amores perros", does it mean it's inferior to a problematic but 'authentic' film like "Traffic"? Although one wonders how unrelated they are in the context of the comparison, hey I'm just saying!
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From: Sanjeevi on 4th December 2007 12:09 PM [Full View]
I would rate Veyil is slightly higher than PV and Ch-28 though I liked all the 3 movies somewhat equivally
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 12:19 PM [Full View]
avangalukku chennai-ellam tamil nadae illa Originally Posted by selvakumar
I respect your view. But chennai - 28 is still an *Authentic Tamil movie with natural portrayal of chennai life*. ........interesting points abt PV - when i checked with many of frnds in and around madurai - they say priyamani's and karthi's accents were pretty unnatural (ppl like selva can give inputs )......and ponvannan (i hope got the name right) had coimbatore vaadai in his madurai tamil ...........and the big hole in the script -> save-a-girl-once-and-get-a-lover-for-lifetime <- seems ridiculous now.......
chennai-28, except for the fight scene b4 climax and the "matter" song - had no ridiculousness attached to it ......and the language was awesome - i almost had tears in my eyes when i heard - "offside-la poduda, leg side-la potta adikkaraannu theriyaudhala" - cant remember whether it was billion times or million times i have uttered this line myself in my life - chennai-28 no pretentions unlike PV which was pretentious to an extent......idhellam My opinion =IMO
thilak, yes, my fav movies are those sophisticated movies .......authentic movies are sometimes like "i'm showing u wat happened" category and yes, the efforts a director takes to bring in 100% reality is cool to watch but Mani's genre is like wat a creator can add to authenticity.......but i'm enjoying the new wave in tamil cinema a lot........
roshan, Ameer's style of direction is way superior to cheran IMO.......the way he moves a script is awesome.....though i have criticised PV here, i was stunned to bits the way it was presented......mounam pesiyadhe was like watching a good english romance movie.....thats my fav till now from Ameer.......if u look at these 2 movies, they dont have a storyline at all, then how did we sit for 6 hrs( for 2 movies) - the answer is Ameer ......i dunno, if i have put my points in a understandable way.....someone like thilak/pR can eloborate on y Ameer is special (i hope they too feel the same )
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From: equanimus on 4th December 2007 12:33 PM [Full View]
It's not really about whether the film was "heavy" or "light." Paruthiveeran, I thought, was vacuous, bought into its own mythology. Almost all the characters were one-dimensional. It really doesn't take an unflinching look at its protagonist or any such thing as far as I see, its portrayal is just sleight-of-hand, conveniently shifting gears at different points of the film. I wonder how this film is a "difficult watch," because the director surely doesn't seem to have intended it that way until the last few minutes. The audience is never "allowed" to find the hero dislikable as he chugs along merrily with his gang like a spoilt brat. It's all shown in the name of reasonably harlmess fun. Not that it must allow the audience to think otherwise, of course, but finally, we're "told" that the poor fellow's damnation is thanks to his "loose character!" Seriously, what is the director trying to say? Ameer says it's a padhivu of real rural life and shouldn't be viewed as a traditional story with a round ending. I was just reminded of what Woody Allen once said about life and bad television.
And, I daresay 'Chennai 600028' easily wins over 'Paruthiveeran' even when it comes to authenticity. The dialogue in 'Chennai 600028' is impeccably authentic though it's not showcased in any sense. All the actors are so fluent with the dialect. Paruthiveeran's setting is remarkably authentic too (mud houses et al.), but the slang in the dialogue of Paruthiveeran owes quite a lot to the "urban" Madurai slang. There's not much of the vocabulory of that specific region in display here. It's all mostly restricted to "varuvOm'la" and "pOvOm'la" used primarily to evoke a distinct flavor of nakkal. The lingo owes more to Vadivelu and other forms Madurai city accent popularized in Tamil cinema than what the writer would like to believe. And, when the dialogue is in a "serious" scene, all the authenticity goes into thin air. Nobody says, "nA correct'A thAnE vaLathEn!" anywhere in the rural sides of Tamilnadu, leave aside the dialect of Theni district. Or, "over'A pesAtha!" for that matter. I hope this doesn't amount to nitpicking on my part, but it's just lazy writing. (In fact, incorporating English words is quite uncommon even in most of the urban zones of Tamilnadu, excepting Chennai of course. 'sariyA' would be the word most would use down south.)
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From: buddysathi on 4th December 2007 12:39 PM [Full View]
Engae ellarum enna pesureenganae puriyalae enakku?!?!?! Veerasamy DVD-la paathutu erukken,, padamuna ethu thaaanya padam!
ennalae oru flaw kooda kandupudikka mudiyalae...
4 round pottu paduthaalum scenes frame by frame vandhu miratuthu!
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From: buddysathi on 4th December 2007 12:42 PM [Full View]
"Nobody says, "nA correct'A thAnE vaLathEn"!!
No, Wrong! I know ppl in tirunelveli villages use that, dont ask me how I know that, since I am Nellai mannin mainthan!
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 12:49 PM [Full View]
superb catch - i dont think villagers use that much english words in their tamil - but again, there is so much information explosion happened in 90, they mite have started using it Originally Posted by equanimus
i thot Karuthamma and Virumaandi had more authentic tamil slangs for the regions and lot of care was taken to present it in a natural way.......esp. karuthamma, where BR cud differentiate betn the tamil of raja/vellaiamma(maheshwari ) vs Karuthamma/periyardasan - adhu direction .....virumaandi - that kamal drunk scene - awesome....
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From: P_R on 4th December 2007 12:49 PM [Full View]
Not Karthi.... the fellow had nailed it. Ponvannan, suffering from an acute shortage of talent, had actually done a decent job in the film, but his accent and delivery were far from fluent. But that could just be the way Kazhuvan talked, I wouldn't say there was any Coimbatore accent there. Originally Posted by MADDY
Paruthiveeran was just about one thing. Throwing the audience right into the middle of the going ons. In terms of story - and I use the word loosely, disappointing characterization in parts. Horrors, Ameer had even tried to thow in a moral ! Which is why I am reluctant about celebrating Ameer and am a little annoyed that his older movies receiving retrospective (and IMO highly disproportionate praise).
Among the best write-ups out their about PV and Ch-28 are here in equanimus's blog. Lovely writing I wish I could gush with as much balance
I loved the film. But much as head and heart say Ch-28, the movie I am most likely to recall more, with some sequences throbbing to life is PV. Most of us who bore through the 80s and early 90s films with the mandatory rape and bloody murder thrown in, should have been inured to it. To take such an audience and hit them where it hurts making them feel raw for a atleast a day is no mean achievement. This is one of those cases where the film is better than the filmmaker.
I am partial to films that make me lose my balance. Which is why my favourite till this year is to a flaw-ridden film that has left a huge impression on me. I don't believe I have been able to put together why exactly I like it. Hope a second viewing helps.
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 4th December 2007 12:52 PM [Full View]
aaga motham neenga yaarume 9 RS Note paakala
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 12:59 PM [Full View]
Equanimus and BRangan were partners in crime when it came to exposing PV's manipulation, and shortcomings! The film made lot of noises in different film festivals. Reached a lot of north Indian cinephiles also...
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 12:59 PM [Full View]
appadi onnu irundha dhaane paakkaradhu Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
aaga motham neenga yaarume 9 RS Note paakala
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 01:00 PM [Full View]
You are right PR, Karthi nailed it. One of the best debuts certainly.
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 01:00 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Maddy is right, Ponvannan spoke with a CBE accent (he is actually from thereabouts)...
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 01:05 PM [Full View]
True! Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 4th December 2007 01:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
appadi onnu irundha dhaane paakkaradhu Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
aaga motham neenga yaarume 9 RS Note paakala
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 01:46 PM [Full View]
Hmm .9 Rupah nottu pathi yaarum pesura maathiri theriyalla
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 01:48 PM [Full View]
It seems to be another mediocre, contrived, and hackneyed film which Thangar bachchan hypes to the effect of being an Academy award material Originally Posted by joe
Hmm .9 Rupah nottu pathi yaarum pesura maathiri theriyalla
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 01:50 PM [Full View]
I see Originally Posted by thilak4life
It seems to be another mediocre, contrived, and hackneyed film which Thangar bachchan hypes to the effect of being an Academy award material Originally Posted by joe
Hmm .9 Rupah nottu pathi yaarum pesura maathiri theriyalla Parthuttu solluren
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 4th December 2007 01:58 PM [Full View]
I can feel lot of similarities in all of his movies. Village school student’s conversation is an example. Right from Azhagi I am seeing this [I am unable to understand half of the dialogues in it]
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From: kamath on 4th December 2007 02:01 PM [Full View]
Yesterday thankar bachchan came on "star ungaludan" prog on jaya tv.
Pity the guys who came on line. He started his usual quota of raves & rants.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 02:05 PM [Full View]
Maddy ,Selva -kku 'பச்சன்' -க்கும் 'பச்சான்' -க்கும் வித்தியாசம் தெரியல்லியா ? அல்லது தங்கர் பச்சானை கிண்டல் பண்ணுவதில் வெறும் வெற்று சந்தோஷமா தெரியவில்லை. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Originally Posted by MADDY
Enna koduma saravanan idhu
nee enna nenachha .......btw, i still dont get answers y Thangar is named after bollywood super* Amitabh Youtube blocked inga.. Neenga etha nenachu sirikureenga
thangaroda appavukku amitabh pudichirukkalaam..
தங்கரின் உண்மையான பெயர் தங்கராசு .அவர் அப்பா பெயர் பச்சான் .இரண்டையும் சேர்த்து தன் பெயரை 'தங்கர் பச்சான்' என்று வைத்திருக்கிறார்.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 02:12 PM [Full View]
I don't think Solla maranta kathai and thentral had those school students conversation. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
I can feel lot of similarities in all of his movies. Village school student’s conversation is an example. Right from Azhagi I am seeing this [I am unable to understand half of the dialogues in it]
And the language used is exactly from south arcot dist villages.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 02:17 PM [Full View]
Apart from Direction ,Thangar is renowned cinematographer (Bharathi ,Periyar) and much much talented.
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 02:18 PM [Full View]
Athu sari.. பச்சான் என்றால் என்ன அர்த்தம் ? Originally Posted by joe
ஜோ,
உங்களுக்கு சிம்பு மாதிரு, எனக்கு தங்கர் ! அவ்வளவே !
I am not comfortable with that guy.. cheran too was in that list. But he seems to have understood what he should do !
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 02:22 PM [Full View]
Thangar's films lacks an aesthetic sense. Only when there were far superior actors like Nandita das or Parthiban, the films had some sort of refinement to it. In general, his films, and his idea of cinema is mediocre, and forgettable.
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 02:22 PM [Full View]
Why ? He praised the film like anything if I am not wrong Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 02:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Why ? He praised the film like anything if I am not wrong Originally Posted by thilak4life
He didn't! But again, He never puts down a film eyes closed, His dissection of the themes was right on the mark...
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 02:27 PM [Full View]
this I agree. He is a better cinematographer and certainly not a director to be talked about Originally Posted by joe
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 02:27 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
He didn't! But again, He never puts down a film eyes closed, His dissection of the themes was right on the mark...
let me read it again.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 02:29 PM [Full View]
செல்வா,
பச்சான் என்ற பெயர் தென்னாற்காடு மாவட்ட கிராமங்களில் வழங்கப்படும் பெயர் தான் .ஆனால் அதன் உண்மையான அர்த்தம் தெரியவில்லை .கேட்டு சொல்கிறேன் .ஆனால் தங்கரின் தாத்தா அமிதாப் ரசிகராக இருப்பார் என நான் நினைக்கவில்லை.
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 02:31 PM [Full View]
And also something else. Watching Paruthi Veeran – or Pithamagan, for that matter – we see how far village-based cinema has come from the days of Bharathiraja. Where there was once sensitivity, there is now sensationalism. That dialogue of Muthazhagu is among the least sensational aspects of this film, for even if it makes you flinch, it’s only in your mind. There are scenes here calculated to make you flinch physically, as if it’s not enough that your mind experiences the revulsion, your body should too. Why else would we be treated to the image of Muthazhagu vomiting all over the screen, or Veeran’s shorts being ripped off to expose a bare buttock, or women being repeatedly slapped and smashed against walls and shoved and raped and murdered brutally? Maybe this is how those bloodthirsty villagers really are. Maybe the problem is with us lily-livered urban audiences. But I couldn’t shake off the feeling that a lot of this is just Ameer’s way of bludgeoning his audience into submission. He goes equally overboard with the cuteness. The colour-bleached flashbacks of the young Veeran and Muthazhagu are bad enough – though we do get to hear a beautiful number sung by Ilayaraja, Ariyadha vayasu – but when Muthazhagu sits down a group of old crones and jokingly tries to instruct them in the ways of Carnatic music, it’s impossible not to wince.
Read more for the complete review
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 02:33 PM [Full View]
There was sensationalism in Pithamagan, but there was an underlying sensitivity that's criminally forgotten, there I disagree with Rangan's statement..
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
thilak ippo thaan niyabagam varuthu. thanks for the extract
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 03:03 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 03:05 PM [Full View]
Selva,
I don't rate anybody's work with what they do out of their work or personal life (including Simbu)
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From: MADDY on 4th December 2007 03:17 PM [Full View]
so??? even inside the work - thangar hasnt been that great Originally Posted by joe
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From: equanimus on 4th December 2007 03:17 PM [Full View]
buddysathi, Originally Posted by buddysathi
May be, you're right. I'm not saying that these characters using English words is totally unacceptable, just that here it seemed sort of inappropriate. Like I said, down south, those who're brought up in urban places with English as their major medium of education most often use 'sari' and not 'correct' when they're talking in Tamil. And, this line stuck out when I saw the film and came off as lazy writing for me. Probably, I'm wrong.
In any case, the "vocabulory" used in the film is simply not "rich" by any standard. To pick a very recent example, there's a scene in 'Polladhavan', where a local Don says, "daulat'A vandhu pEsudhu pAru..." That is authenticity. Same can be said of 'Mudhal Mariyadhai', 'Karuthamma', 'Kizhakku Cheemaiyile', 'Thevar Magan' and 'Virumaandi'. The dialogue in Paruthiveeran simply falls flat in this respect.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 03:20 PM [Full View]
That is your opinion and if you just argue for his work content ,I have no issues for you have your opinion. Originally Posted by MADDY
so??? even inside the work - thangar hasnt been that great Originally Posted by joe
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For me He is not that bad in his works as you guys potraying here
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 03:24 PM [Full View]
Equanimus,
Have you written any of those short notes for Polladhavan yet? How was the film by-the-by?
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 03:25 PM [Full View]
oh, paathuttaplaya? "commands" please.. Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: thilak4life on 4th December 2007 03:29 PM [Full View]
I'm waiting for some encouragment to watch this film.. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
oh, paathuttaplaya? "commands" please.. Originally Posted by thilak4life
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From: crajkumar_be on 4th December 2007 03:31 PM [Full View]
Joe,
Actually its difficult not to be influenced by what a film-maker or anyone says about his/her works. I mean, thangar avar padangala pathi pesum pechukku relative-a paatha, avar velayila perisa onnum saadhikkala. It is because of his claims off-screen that his works are criticized even more severely...
We are not talking about his personal life here. Even in the case of Simbhu, his conduct off-screen influences how we see him... (not *personal* life again, which is different).... they should have the stuff to back up what they say..
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 03:43 PM [Full View]
CR,
I understand what you mean ..Before Pallikoodam release ,he mentioned it will be worth screening in international film festival ,But it is just a OK movie .I agree Thangarkku vaai athigam .. But that one aspect is not enough to mock and make fun of him always (that too from people who speak sky high of certain movies ,actors ,directors ,more than what they deserved)
For me he wanted to make movies dealing with people who he really know ..But he is not that good in presentation and he lacks in cinema making skill ..But I like him for the first reason ,trying to make movies with characters of this own land.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 4th December 2007 03:50 PM [Full View]
pallikoodam - nothing much in the film as he said b4 the release Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: selvakumar on 4th December 2007 05:33 PM [Full View]
Joe,
I wont mock at thangar if he says that his film Pallikoodam deserves an oscar. It is his *poorippu or satisfaction or expection* on the hardwork that he had put in this film.
I am not *against that*. But oflate he is sounding like retard. He projects as if he is the only savior of tamil and its culture. He blames those who eat pissa. I am sure that actors like kamal, rajini, ajith, vijay etc would have eaten pissa many times. Even we eat. You may also eat. That doesnt mean that we are neglecting our culture.
Plus - he uses these idiotic statements as benchmarks to assess his films. That is what irks me to the core.
In his suntv interview, he asked the caller why he didnt know a directors' name
If he is that much worried about cinema and its impact and wants the tamilian to know about every director, then he should put in a different way.
First of all, I hav edoubts on how he rates directorsl ike BharathiRaja who gives films like Kangalal kaidu sei.. or sivappu rojakkal for that matter. What does he want the entertaiment industry to do ?
Does he want them to project the tamil culture always in their films ?
If yes, then he should take care about the practices and behaviors of all the tamilians. Tamil cinema is surviving in other places (US , UK) due to the tamils who got settled there. Our films should be equally appealing to them.
Originally Posted by joe
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From: tvsankar on 4th December 2007 05:59 PM [Full View]
Dear all,
About Thangarpachaan -
Netru Jaya tv il interview vandhar.Avarudaiya karuthil irundhu avarai patri naan feel pannuvadhu
naam nanmudaiya adaiyalangalai izhaka kudadhu....
Thangar pachaan in Palli koodam naan innum parkavilali.
Netraiya interview vil pallikoodam ( cinemvai illai.Nijama pallikoodangalai patri)
Panam pannuvadharkaga padipu enru poi kondu irukiradhu.Naam palliyil katru kondahu ellam idhai illai.
Book dhan padipu enral veetil irundhae padikalamae ?? Edharku pallikoodam??
Innum oru karuthaiyum sonnar.Ketka mudiyavillai.
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From: joe on 4th December 2007 10:00 PM [Full View]
Selva, Originally Posted by selvakumar
Joe,
I wont mock at thangar if he says that his film Pallikoodam deserves an oscar. It is his *poorippu or satisfaction or expection* on the hardwork that he had put in this film.
I am not *against that*. But oflate he is sounding like retard. He projects as if he is the only savior of tamil and its culture. He blames those who eat pissa. I am sure that actors like kamal, rajini, ajith, vijay etc would have eaten pissa many times. Even we eat. You may also eat. That doesnt mean that we are neglecting our culture.
Plus - he uses these idiotic statements as benchmarks to assess his films. That is what irks me to the core.
In his suntv interview, he asked the caller why he didnt know a directors' name
If he is that much worried about cinema and its impact and wants the tamilian to know about every director, then he should put in a different way.
First of all, I hav edoubts on how he rates directorsl ike BharathiRaja who gives films like Kangalal kaidu sei.. or sivappu rojakkal for that matter. What does he want the entertaiment industry to do ?
Does he want them to project the tamil culture always in their films ?
If yes, then he should take care about the practices and behaviors of all the tamilians. Tamil cinema is surviving in other places (US , UK) due to the tamils who got settled there. Our films should be equally appealing to them.
Originally Posted by joe
Again I want to insist you that I am not going to deny any of your accussitions based on Thangar's off screen behaviers and statements ..I don't care about his offscreen statements ..I only look for his works .
We are entirely in different tracks in this matter ..As usual ,let us agree to disagree
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From: Nerd on 5th December 2007 08:49 AM [Full View]
Thangar Bachaan in Jeya TV.
Rajini is one of my most favorite actors, not this Rajini, the Rajini of MM, BOK days. With most people we know that they are *acting* but acting came naturally to Rajini. But unfortunately he was wasted by most 80s directors.
Rs. 9 bill enga Oduthu?? I am so there :P
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 10:24 AM [Full View]
முன்பு ஒரு பேட்டியில் அவர் ரஜினி, MGR இருவரை பற்றியும் இதே கருத்தை சொன்னார், யோசித்து பார்த்ததில் கொஞ்சம் உண்மை இருப்பது போல தான் தெரிகிறது Originally Posted by Nerd
Thangar Bachaan in Jeya TV.
Rajini is one of my most favorite actors, not this Rajini, the Rajini of MM, BOK days. With most people we know that they are *acting* but acting came naturally to Rajini. But unfortunately he was wasted by most 80s directors.
Rs. 9 bill enga Oduthu?? I am so there :P
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From: tvsankar on 5th December 2007 10:37 AM [Full View]
Avaruku piditha actors enra kelvi ku thangarin bhadhil
Sivaji,MGR, Kamal. Rajini enru solli vittu
MGR and Rajini - ivargal dhan iyalbaga nadithavargal.
Sivaji and Kamal - Nadipu varugiradhu enru nadithavargal..
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From: selvakumar on 5th December 2007 10:41 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by tvsankar
Itha Makkal Thilgam kooda aetru kolvaara endru theriyavillai ! (sometime back I read in kh thread on how much MGR loves KH - The actor )
thangar
Thanks for the info usha shankar
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From: thilak4life on 5th December 2007 10:51 AM [Full View]
Yeah, colleagues were having a chat about it. Looks like even M.R.Radha finds a mention in Thangar's natural actors list! :P
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From: MrJudge on 5th December 2007 11:27 AM [Full View]
enakkennamo ithu oru nalla marketing technique maathiri theriyuthu. Nerd has already reserved a seat for 9 Rs. currency. Thankar has got a new customer on his wings Originally Posted by rajasaranam
முன்பு ஒரு பேட்டியில் அவர் ரஜினி, MGR இருவரை பற்றியும் இதே கருத்தை சொன்னார், யோசித்து பார்த்ததில் கொஞ்சம் உண்மை இருப்பது போல தான் தெரிகிறது
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From: MADDY on 5th December 2007 11:32 AM [Full View]
bang on - i cant agree more with thankar here Originally Posted by rajasaranam
முன்பு ஒரு பேட்டியில் அவர் ரஜினி, MGR இருவரை பற்றியும் இதே கருத்தை சொன்னார், யோசித்து பார்த்ததில் கொஞ்சம் உண்மை இருப்பது போல தான் தெரிகிறது Originally Posted by Nerd
Thangar Bachaan in Jeya TV.
Rajini is one of my most favorite actors, not this Rajini, the Rajini of MM, BOK days. With most people we know that they are *acting* but acting came naturally to Rajini. But unfortunately he was wasted by most 80s directors.
Rs. 9 bill enga Oduthu?? I am so there :P ......i've always felt Rajin and MGR are more *natural* actors than what people portray to be......
Tamilians are melodramatic, emotionally charged up, sentimental than rest of india.....(pls dont take this as a racist statement ) .......so for them, natural acting was "no acting"........i've heard my frnds calling Mohanlal mediocre
Selva, its not neccessary that MGR fans shuld appreciate all things that MGR appreciated
9 rooba nottu-ukku oru ticket parcel
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 11:36 AM [Full View]
வரும் ஞாயிறு 9-12-2007 அன்று காலை 11.30 மணிக்காட்சி பிரமிட் சாய்மீராவின் 100 தியேட்டர்களில் 'ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' திரையிடப்படும். யாரும் திரையரங்குக்கு கட்டணம் செலுத்தி டிக்கெட் வாங்க வேண்டியதில்லை. படம் பார்த்து முடித்தவர்கள் படம் பிடித்திருந்தால், இதுபோன்ற திரைப்படங்கள் இனியும் தமிழில் வரவேண்டும் என்பதற்காக திரையரங்கின் வெளியே வைத்திருக்கும் பெட்டியில் தங்களால் ஆன தொகையை செலுத்திவிட்டு செல்லலாம். படம் பிடிக்கவில்லையென்று கூறுபவர்கள் எந்த தொகையையும் செலுத்த தேவையில்லை. அப்பெட்டியில் போடப்படும் பணமும் கூட பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனத்துக்கு சேராது. அருமையான அத்திரைப்படத்தை தயாரிக்க முன்வந்த தயாரிப்பாளருக்கே போய் சேரும். வணிக, சுயநல நோக்கம் எதுவுமின்றி திரையுலக நன்மைக்காக இத்திட்டத்தை நிறைவேற்ற பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம் முன்வந்திருக்கிறது.
வரும் ஞாயிறு அன்று காலை 11.30 மணிக்காட்சி ஒன்பது ரூபாய் படத்தை 'மக்கள் காட்சியாக' பார்க்க விரும்புபவர்கள் 044-46464646 என்ற எண்ணைத் தொடர்புகொண்டு தங்கள் பெயர், தாங்கள் வசிக்கும் நகரம்/ஊர் பெயரை சொன்னால், நீங்கள் வசிக்கும் இடத்துக்கு அருகிலிருக்கும் பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா திரையரங்கில் உங்களுக்கான இருக்கை உறுதிசெய்யப்படும். படம் பிடித்திருந்தால் மட்டுமே விரும்பிய கட்டணத்தை நீங்களாகவே செலுத்தலாம். கட்டணம் செலுத்தவேண்டும் என்ற எந்த கட்டாயமும் இல்லை.
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 11:41 AM [Full View]
அவரு புதுசா என்னை ஒரு customer ஆக்க தேவை இல்லை. அவரோட எல்லா படத்தையும் நான் தியேட்டர்ல போய்தான் பார்த்தேன். ஆனா அவர என்னால ஒரு நல்ல சினிமா அல்லது உலக சினிமா அளவுக்கு எல்லாம் ஒத்துக்க முடியாது. சும்மா டைம் பாஸ் படம் பண்றவரு சில நேரம் போர் அடிக்கிற சினிமாவும் எடுக்கிறார். பள்ளிகூடத்துல அவருடைய நடிப்பு மிக சிறப்பா இருந்தது. மற்றபடி தமிழ் தமிழ் மொழி கலாச்சாரம்ன்னு அப்பப்ப பேசறதால ஒரு soft corner அந்தாளு மேல. நான் அதை எல்லாம் கடந்து வந்துன்ட்டேன்னால்லும் Originally Posted by MrJudge
enakkennamo ithu oru nalla marketing technique maathiri theriyuthu. Nerd is already reserved a seat for 9 Rs. currency. Thankar has got a new customer on his wings Originally Posted by rajasaranam
முன்பு ஒரு பேட்டியில் அவர் ரஜினி, MGR இருவரை பற்றியும் இதே கருத்தை சொன்னார், யோசித்து பார்த்ததில் கொஞ்சம் உண்மை இருப்பது போல தான் தெரிகிறது
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 11:47 AM [Full View]
Nadippu varravanga thaan nadika mudiyum ..no doubt Originally Posted by tvsankar
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From: MrJudge on 5th December 2007 11:51 AM [Full View]
I didn't mean people like you. I wrote it keeping the Rajini fans on mind. Originally Posted by rajasaranam
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 11:58 AM [Full View]
ஜான் அபிரகாமின் ஒடேசா மக்கள் இயக்கம் போல் த்வனி வருகிறது Originally Posted by joe
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 12:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
Tamilians are melodramatic, emotionally charged up, sentimental than rest of india.....(pls dont take this as a racist statement ) .......so for them, natural acting was "no acting I was told that most natural actors MGR and Rajini are the most favourite actors of Tamilians ..Then why you complain ? Your usual double stand
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From: tvsankar on 5th December 2007 12:06 PM [Full View]
Dear joe, Originally Posted by joe
Nadippu varravanga thaan nadika mudiyum ..no doubt Originally Posted by tvsankar
True words.
Nadipu varuvadhu enbadhu saadharanama??
Saadhaiyalargalai ellam ippadi simple aga solli vidalama??? - SAADHIKA MUDIGIRADHU.SAADHIKIRARGAL.....
Thiramaiyaga irupavargalai manadhara paarata vendum.Nadipu vishayathil Thangar ku paarata manasu illai pol iruku....
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From: Roshan on 5th December 2007 12:18 PM [Full View]
Haha.. Originally Posted by thilak4life
I expected something like this the moment I read those lines of B.Rangan. I believe Rangan hit the bulls eye there
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From: MADDY on 5th December 2007 12:29 PM [Full View]
but MGR and Rajini were/are famous for their formula movies and style sequences etc. etc..........when it comes to acting, ppl. say they are mediocre, isnt it?? Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by MADDY
Tamilians are melodramatic, emotionally charged up, sentimental than rest of india.....(pls dont take this as a racist statement ) .......so for them, natural acting was "no acting I was told that most natural actors MGR and Rajini are the most favourite actors of Tamilians ..Then why you complain ? Your usual double stand even their fans proclaim that sometimes 
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 12:31 PM [Full View]
I can't help Originally Posted by MADDY
when it comes to acting, ppl. say they are mediocre, isnt it?? even their fans proclaim that sometimes
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From: selvakumar on 5th December 2007 12:44 PM [Full View]
Maddy,
It can be his opinion. Even I expressed something similiar to this in one of my replies to bala in GOTD thread. Point to be noted down here is :
As u said, Tamilians preferred that kind of acting from sivaji more IMO. Sivaji thread la avar mudha mariyaathai pathi sollum podhu "Naan ninna padam nalla oduthu" apadinnu solluraaru. Just like how actors deliver larger than life masalas for the *money* and others *justify* the same, he must have gone through the pressure of delivering what is expected out of him. But he had also done movies that fit into the genre that you are referring to. so, in the case of kamal and sivaji, it will be a complex mixture of films with all forms of acting. (Multi - dimensional shall we say ? ) FYI, I am not a great fan of MGR's last few movies (Idayakkani for e.g.,) though I love his B & W movies a lot.
At the sametime, I never expressed the opinion of MGR fans there But I expressed the view of MGR there.. I never expected all MGR fans to agree with that
Originally Posted by MADDY
bang on - i cant agree more with thankar here ......i've always felt Rajin and MGR are more *natural* actors than what people portray to be......
Tamilians are melodramatic, emotionally charged up, sentimental than rest of india.....(pls dont take this as a racist statement ) .......so for them, natural acting was "no acting"........i've heard my frnds calling Mohanlal mediocre
Selva, its not neccessary that MGR fans shuld appreciate all things that MGR appreciated
9 rooba nottu-ukku oru ticket parcel
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From: thilak4life on 5th December 2007 12:55 PM [Full View]
Rajini has shown something significant to be called natural acting. MGR has nothing much in him to be called "acting", "Natural" of course saves Vathiyar, I'm saying this in spite of sharing a guilty pleasure of enjoying MGR's films! And, I'm not too proud of this. As for Mohanlal being mentioned here is blasphemy For christ's sake, Mohanlal's skill of showing complex emotions with such elegance, and seemingly simple techniques is worlds away from Rajini or MGR
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From: selvakumar on 5th December 2007 12:56 PM [Full View]
& Maddy,
Looks like thangar had listed M R Radha too in that category (as thilak put) :P Didnt u smell anything :P ?
<dig> My personal opinion is : thangar is a retard and I dont want to discuss further on this. </dig>
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From: MADDY on 5th December 2007 12:57 PM [Full View]
naa kamal/sivaji pathhi ellam pesave illa Originally Posted by selvakumar
Maddy,
It can be his opinion. Even I expressed something similiar to this in one of my replies to bala in GOTD thread. Point to be noted down here is :
As u said, Tamilians preferred that kind of acting from sivaji more IMO. Sivaji thread la avar mudha mariyaathai pathi sollum podhu "Naan ninna padam nalla oduthu" apadinnu solluraaru. Just like how actors deliver larger than life masalas for the *money* and others *justify* the same, he must have gone through the pressure of delivering what is expected out of him. But he had also done movies that fit into the genre that you are referring to. so, in the case of kamal and sivaji, it will be a complex mixture of films with all forms of acting. (Multi - dimensional shall we say ? ) FYI, I am not a great fan of MGR's last few movies (Idayakkani for e.g.,) though I love his B & W movies a lot.
At the sametime, I never expressed the opinion of MGR fans there But I expressed the view of MGR there.. I never expected all MGR fans to agree with that .......i just told, ppl. underestimated/underestimate MGR/Rajini's acting skills bcos of their natural style.......
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From: Billgates on 5th December 2007 12:58 PM [Full View]
Sivaji Ganesan also was a bit of natural actor upto the 60s. From 70s he started shouting , screaming loudly with heavy dose of overacting. This had spoilt his image. Dented totally .
Else, one should see his earlier movies. Had played subtle roles with minimum of sound decibels.
For all actors, their final stages had very bad acting inclusive of MGR
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 01:02 PM [Full View]
பரவாயில்ல .நல்ல தாராள மனசு உங்களுக்கு ! Originally Posted by Billgates
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From: raaja_rasigan on 5th December 2007 01:04 PM [Full View]
தமிழ்நாடு முழுவதும் 100 தியேட்டர்களில், `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படத்தின் இலவச காட்சி
விருப்பப்பட்டவர்கள் பணம் போட தியேட்டர் வாசலில் உண்டியல்
சென்னை, டிச.5-
சத்யராஜ் நடித்த `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படத்தை தமிழ்நாடு முழுவதும் 100 தியேட்டர்களில் ஒரு காட்சியை இலவசமாக திரையிடுகிறார்கள். தியேட்டர் வாசலில் உண்டியல் வைக்கப்படுகிறது. விருப்பப்பட்டவர்கள் அந்த உண்டியலில் பணம் போடலாம் என்று கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.
`ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு'
சத்யராஜ் நடித்து, தங்கர்பச்சான் டைரக்ஷனில் வெளிவந்துள்ள படம், `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு.' 60 வயது பெரியவர் ஒருவரின் வாழ்க்கையை சித்தரிக்கும் படம் இது.
தமிழில் தயாரான விலை மதிக்க முடியாத படம் இது என்பதை காட்டுவதற்காக, பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம் இந்த படத்தை தமிழ்நாடு முழுவதும் 100 தியேட்டர்களில், இலவசமாக திரையிடுகிறது.
வருகிற ஞாயிற்றுக்கிழமை பகல் 11-30 மணிக்கு, இந்த இலவச காட்சி நடத்தப்படுகிறது.
பேட்டி
இதுபற்றி அந்த நிறுவனத்தின் தலைவர் சாமிநாதன், சென்னையில் நேற்று நிருபர்களிடம் கூறியதாவது:-
``ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு படத்தை எல்லோரும் பார்க்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காகவே இந்த இலவச காட்சியை நடத்துகிறோம். அந்த 100 தியேட்டர்களிலும் ஏற்கனவே ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கும் படங்களை நிறுத்திவிட்டு, `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படத்தை திரையிடுகிறோம்.
உண்டியல்
100 தியேட்டர்களின் வாசல்களிலும் `உண்டியல்' வைக்கப்படும். படம் பார்த்துவிட்டு திரும்பி செல்லும்போது, உண்டியலில் விருப்பப்பட்ட தொகையை போடலாம்.
நல்ல படம் எடுத்தால் நஷ்டப்பட மாட்டோம் என்று எல்லா தயாரிப்பாளர்களும் நம்பவேண்டும். இதற்காகவே இந்த ஏற்பாடு செய்யப்படுகிறது. இதன் மூலம் புதிய முயற்சிகளை பலபேர் தொடங்க வாய்ப்பு ஏற்படும்.''
இவ்வாறு சாமிநாதன் கூறினார்.
சத்யராஜ்
நிகழ்ச்சியில் நடிகர் சத்யராஜ் கலந்துகொண்டு பேசியதாவது:-
``புதிய முயற்சிகளை முதன்முதலாக செய்யும்போது, அது சரித்திரத்தில் இடம்பெறும். உலகிலேயே முதன்முதலாக முதல்-அமைச்சர் ஆன நடிகர் எம்.ஜி.ஆர்.தான். அதனால் எம்.ஜி.ஆர். சரித்திரத்தில் இடம் பெற்றார். அவருக்கு பின்னால்தான் நடிகராக இருந்த ரொனால்டு ரீகன், அமெரிக்க ஜனாதிபதி ஆனார். என்.டி.ராமாராவ், ஆந்திரா முதல்-அமைச்சர் ஆனார்.
அதுபோல், ஒரு படத்தை எல்லோரும் பார்க்க வேண்டும் என்ற உயர்ந்த நோக்கத்தில் வாங்கி இலவசமாக திரையிடும் பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனமும் சரித்திரத்தில் இடம்பெறும்.''
மேற்கண்டவாறு சத்யராஜ் பேசினார்.
தங்கர்பச்சான்
நிகழ்ச்சியில் கலந்துகொண்டு டைரக்டர் தங்கர்பச்சான் பேசியதாவது:-
``ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு, நான் இயக்கிய 6-வது படம். இந்த படத்தை 5 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பே எடுத்திருக்க வேண்டும். அப்படி எடுத்திருந்தால், மிகப்பெரிய அதிர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தி இருக்கும். நான் செய்த முதல் தவறு, `அழகி' படத்தை முதலில் இயக்கியதுதான்.
அந்த தவறை செய்யாமல் இருந்திருந்தால், நான் இயக்கிய ஆறு படங்களுமே உலக அளவுக்கு கொண்டு செல்லப்பட்டிருக்கும்.
போராடும் கலைஞன்
மதுக்கடைகளும், மசாலா பட காட்சிகளும் மக்களை சிந்திக்க விடாமல் திசைதிருப்பிவிட்ட இந்த வேளையில், `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படம் வந்திருக்கிறது. தியேட்டர்களில் படம் பார்ப்பவர்கள் உறைந்து போய் விடுகிறார்கள். படம் ஓடுகிற சத்தம் தவிர, வேறு சத்தமே இல்லை.
மக்களுக்காக போராடுகிற கலைஞன் நான். சாதியும், மதமும், அரசியல் ஆக்கப்பட்டதை எடுத்து சொல்பவன். நான் விரும்புகிற-வணங்குகிற மக்கள், இந்த திரைப்படத்தை உயர்ந்த இடத்துக்கு கொண்டு செல்வார்கள்.''
இவ்வாறு தங்கர்பச்சான் பேசினார்.
பிரமிட் நடராஜன், நடிகர் நாசர், நடிகை அர்ச்சனா, பட அதிபர் கணேசன் ஆகியோரும் பேசினார்கள்.
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article....date=12/5/2007
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From: selvakumar on 5th December 2007 01:09 PM [Full View]
This I agree Originally Posted by MADDY
naa kamal/sivaji pathhi ellam pesave illa .......i just told, ppl. underestimated/underestimate MGR/Rajini's acting skills bcos of their natural style....... I was commenting on thangar's statements He had generalized the whole thing.
True ! Originally Posted by Billgates
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From: thilak4life on 5th December 2007 01:11 PM [Full View]
Sivaji was a complete actor, from understated naturalness to operatic opulence! I prefer Kamal more though, that's a different story. I would be intellectually dishonest if I categorize any other Tamil actor in the same breath as 'em!
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From: selvakumar on 5th December 2007 01:23 PM [Full View]
``ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு, நான் இயக்கிய 6-வது படம். இந்த படத்தை 5 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பே எடுத்திருக்க வேண்டும். அப்படி எடுத்திருந்தால், மிகப்பெரிய அதிர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தி இருக்கும். நான் செய்த முதல் தவறு, `அழகி' படத்தை முதலில் இயக்கியதுதான்.
அந்த தவறை செய்யாமல் இருந்திருந்தால், நான் இயக்கிய ஆறு படங்களுமே உலக அளவுக்கு கொண்டு செல்லப்பட்டிருக்கும்.
போராடும் கலைஞன்
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 01:25 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
``ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு, நான் இயக்கிய 6-வது படம். இந்த படத்தை 5 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பே எடுத்திருக்க வேண்டும். அப்படி எடுத்திருந்தால், மிகப்பெரிய அதிர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தி இருக்கும். நான் செய்த முதல் தவறு, `அழகி' படத்தை முதலில் இயக்கியதுதான்.
அந்த தவறை செய்யாமல் இருந்திருந்தால், நான் இயக்கிய ஆறு படங்களுமே உலக அளவுக்கு கொண்டு செல்லப்பட்டிருக்கும்.
போராடும் கலைஞன் வழிமொழிகிறேன். தங்கருக்கு நாக்குல சனி!
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From: Kalyasi on 5th December 2007 01:32 PM [Full View]
I also feel that thangar is a retarted person.....
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 03:18 PM [Full View]
மாறாக மது கடைகளில் தான் மக்கள் சிந்திக்கவே தொடங்குகிறார்கள். Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
அங்கு நடக்கும் சில அரசியல் அல்லது வாழ்க்கை பற்றிய விவாதங்கள் உன்னிப்பாக கவனித்தால் பல விஷயங்கள் கிடைக்கும். நேரம் கிடைக்கும் போது டாஸ்மாக் வரை சென்று வாருங்கள் தங்கர்! சில நல்ல படங்களுக்கான கரு கிடைக்கலாம்
சினிமா அரங்குகளில் மக்கள் சிந்தனையை அவிழ்த்து வைத்து விட வேண்டும் என்பதில் இரு வேறு கருத்து இல்லை! உங்கள் சினிமாவையும் சேர்த்துத்தான்
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From: joe on 5th December 2007 03:26 PM [Full View]
அப்படி என்ன பிரஞ்சு புரட்சிய நடத்திட்டாரு தங்கர் ! குஷ்புவை எதிர்க்கும் போராட்டமே மக்கள் போராட்டமோ! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 03:38 PM [Full View]
அதானே! மேலும் குஷ்பூவை எதிர்த்து நடத்திய போராட்டம் வீண் ஆனது. அது சரி குஷ்பூ கர்ப்பை பற்றி கருத்து உதிர்த்தது தங்கருடைய 'தென்றல்' படத்திற்கு முன்பா பின்பா Originally Posted by joe
அப்படி என்ன பிரஞ்சு புரட்சிய நடத்திட்டாரு தங்கர் ! குஷ்புவை எதிர்க்கும் போராட்டமே மக்கள் போராட்டமோ! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
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From: Roshan on 5th December 2007 03:46 PM [Full View]
Inga uLLa posts ellaam pAtha piRaguthAn thOnuchu (specially his comments which hava been posted here in Thamiz) - thangar patthi entha comment-um paNNAma irunthathu evvaLavu putthisAlithanam appadinnu
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From: Kalyasi on 5th December 2007 04:09 PM [Full View]
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From: Kalyasi on 5th December 2007 04:11 PM [Full View]
Thenrdal ku apparom thaan! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
அதானே! மேலும் குஷ்பூவை எதிர்த்து நடத்திய போராட்டம் வீண் ஆனது. அது சரி குஷ்பூ கர்ப்பை பற்றி கருத்து உதிர்த்தது தங்கருடைய 'தென்றல்' படத்திற்கு முன்பா பின்பா Originally Posted by joe
அப்படி என்ன பிரஞ்சு புரட்சிய நடத்திட்டாரு தங்கர் ! குஷ்புவை எதிர்க்கும் போராட்டமே மக்கள் போராட்டமோ! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
BTW Thendral was a sick movie...
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 04:45 PM [Full View]
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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From: MrJudge on 5th December 2007 04:55 PM [Full View]
I won't call him a retarded but as joe put it rightly "sani avar nakka kuththagaikku" eduththa maathiri theriyuthu. I like his cinematography skills, I don't understand why directing movies pathetically one after the other and speaking about them like Academy materials? Originally Posted by Kalyasi
Why doesn't he stick with what he does best? After reading Cheran's reply to Thangar in AV, I lost even the little respect I had for him.
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From: MrJudge on 5th December 2007 05:03 PM [Full View]
(if you are talking about thendral here) Kushboo's controversy is different from Thendral's story. Please don't bring them together. Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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From: Kalyasi on 5th December 2007 05:05 PM [Full View]
Ellam matter a pathi thaan! Originally Posted by MrJudge
(if you are talking about thendral here) Kushboo's controversy is different from Thendral's story. Please don't bring them together. Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
Kushboo sonnathum right illa... Thendral padamum nalla padam illa!
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From: Roshan on 5th December 2007 05:23 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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Rajasaranam,
Are you the same person who posted a 'bathil kavithai' for Abdul Rahman's poetry - "aayiram thirunaamam pAdi" - which I posted in 'Ulagam Enbathu.... ' thread some time back?
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From: mr_karthik on 5th December 2007 05:35 PM [Full View]
தங்களுடைய படங்களைப்பற்றி தங்களுக்கு தாங்களே பாராட்டுப்பத்திரம் வாசித்துக்கொள்ளும் இரண்டு பேர். ஒருவர் இயக்குனர் 'தங்கர் பச்சான்'. இன்னொருவர் இயக்குனர் 'சீமான்'. Originally Posted by joe
அப்படி என்ன பிரஞ்சு புரட்சிய நடத்திட்டாரு தங்கர் ! குஷ்புவை எதிர்க்கும் போராட்டமே மக்கள் போராட்டமோ! Originally Posted by rajasaranam
படத்தை உண்டாக்கி மக்களிடம் கொடுத்து விட்டு அதைப்பற்றி அவர்களைப்பேச வைக்க வேண்டும். அதை விடுத்து தாங்கள் மட்டுமே ஏதோ உலகத்தில் இல்லாத படத்தை உருவாக்கி விட்டது போல, தாங்களே பேசிக்கொள்(ல்)வது கொஞ்சமும் சரியல்ல.
இந்த 'ஒன்பது ரூபா நோட்'டையே எடுத்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள். சென்னை போன்ற பெருநகரங்களில் ஏர் கண்டிஷன் அரங்குகளில் படம் பார்ப்பவர்களுக்கு இது புதுமையாக இருக்கலாம். ஆனால் கிராமத்து களத்துமேட்டில் மாடு மேய்ப்பவனுக்கு இது அவனுடைய அன்றாடம் வாழ்க்கையில் பார்த்துக்கொண்டிருப்பது. அதை அவன் காசு வேறு கொடுத்து டூரிங் டாக்கீஸில் போய் பார்க்க வேண்டுமா?.
(எப்போதும் தமிழ் தமிழ் என்று முழங்கும் தங்கர்பச்சன், இந்த படத்தின் பெயரிலுள்ள 'ரூபாய்' என்பதும் 'நோட்டு' என்பதும் தமிழில்லை என்பதை அறிவாரா?).
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From: Sanjeevi on 5th December 2007 05:35 PM [Full View]
இந்த வகை கலாசார காவலர்களின் பட்டியல் எடுக்கலாமா? Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
சேரன்
தங்கர் பச்சான்
சீமான்
திருமா வளவன் (நடிகருங்கோ)
புதிதாக சேர்ந்தவர்
'கற்றது தமிழ்' ராம்
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From: mr_karthik on 5th December 2007 05:36 PM [Full View]
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 05:41 PM [Full View]
இரண்டுமே கற்பை பற்றியதுதான் பார்வை மற்றும் கோணம் மட்டுமே வேறு வேறு. இரண்டிலும் சரி தவறு சொல்வதற்கு யாருக்கும் உரிமை கிடையாது! Originally Posted by MrJudge
(if you are talking about thendral here) Kushboo's controversy is different from Thendral's story. Please don't bring them together. Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 05:45 PM [Full View]
அடியேன் நான்தான் Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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Rajasaranam,
Are you the same person who posted a 'bathil kavithai' for Abdul Rahman's poetry - "aayiram thirunaamam pAdi" - which I posted in 'Ulagam Enbathu.... ' thread some time back?
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From: Roshan on 5th December 2007 05:49 PM [Full View]
Good Originally Posted by rajasaranam
அடியேன் நான்தான் Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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Rajasaranam,
Are you the same person who posted a 'bathil kavithai' for Abdul Rahman's poetry - "aayiram thirunaamam pAdi" - which I posted in 'Ulagam Enbathu.... ' thread some time back? Sorry I got a bit confused. Konja nALA aaLai kaaNalaiyA.. adhAn
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From: rajasaranam on 5th December 2007 06:15 PM [Full View]
இசை திரிகளின் பக்கம் மட்டுமே உலவி கொண்டிருப்பதால் கொஞ்ச நாட்களாக இல்லை பல நாட்களாக வேறு எந்த திரியையும் காண நேரம் கிடைப்பது இல்லை. நினைவு வைத்திருப்பதற்கு நன்றி Originally Posted by Roshan
Good Originally Posted by rajasaranam
அடியேன் நான்தான் Originally Posted by Roshan
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
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Rajasaranam,
Are you the same person who posted a 'bathil kavithai' for Abdul Rahman's poetry - "aayiram thirunaamam pAdi" - which I posted in 'Ulagam Enbathu.... ' thread some time back? Sorry I got a bit confused. Konja nALA aaLai kaaNalaiyA.. adhAn அந்த கவிதை எங்கு உள்ளது? நான் என்னிடம் பதிவு வைத்து கொள்ளவில்லை ஆனால் அது மிக அருமையான பதில் கவிதையாக வந்தது என்பது மட்டும் நினைவில் உள்ளது
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From: Roshan on 5th December 2007 06:42 PM [Full View]
I'd look for it and give you the link. Give me some time. That was a nice 'badhil kavithai' indeed Originally Posted by rajasaranam
இசை திரிகளின் பக்கம் மட்டுமே உலவி கொண்டிருப்பதால் கொஞ்ச நாட்களாக இல்லை பல நாட்களாக வேறு எந்த திரியையும் காண நேரம் கிடைப்பது இல்லை. நினைவு வைத்திருப்பதற்கு நன்றி அந்த கவிதை எங்கு உள்ளது? நான் என்னிடம் பதிவு வைத்து கொள்ளவில்லை ஆனால் அது மிக அருமையான பதில் கவிதையாக வந்தது என்பது மட்டும் நினைவில் உள்ளது
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From: rocketboy on 6th December 2007 01:01 AM [Full View]
Watched ORN today. I empathize with Thankar. When 'chappai' guys place 'chappai' Mani Rathnam on the pedestal of glory even for the most banal and sophomoric screenplay, I don't find anything wrong in Thankar's indignation. At least here is one director who attempts to make honest , sincere films. Some people may have difficulty in understanding his films. All I can say is this. If you really want to understand what happened in Bosnia during its war of independence, you should have been there either as a native , or as a soldier. No video or photograph can capture the tumult of a war victim. You have to experience it. I don't know if there is better way to put it. To even comprehend what guys like Cheran, Thankar are trying to express you should have had some connection with rural Tamilnadu. If you are not even remotely connected and still cry down , just BUZZ OFF .
Sanjeevi , be glad that we have Cheran and Thankar amidst us. These are the guys who pulled Tamil cinema out of the gutter and put it back on the right track.
Waiting for a barrage of verbal attacks
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From: MADDY on 6th December 2007 01:47 AM [Full View]
ur point on mani is itself enuf - no need to take ur points seriously....... Originally Posted by rocketboy
Waiting for a barrage of verbal attacks
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From: Nerd on 6th December 2007 05:34 AM [Full View]
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
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From: Billgates on 6th December 2007 08:04 AM [Full View]
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 08:06 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
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From: omega on 6th December 2007 08:32 AM [Full View]
Pitty your ignorance Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 08:57 AM [Full View]
Few examples Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
Mullum Malarum. Buvana Oru ?. Johny, 6 to 60 ,Netrikaan
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From: Kalyasi on 6th December 2007 09:02 AM [Full View]
What abt Moondu mudichu, Moondru Mugam Alex Pandiyan, Bhairavi and the list goes on... Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Few examples Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
Mullum Malarum. Buvana Oru ?. Johny, 6 to 60 ,Netrikaan
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From: raaja_rasigan on 6th December 2007 09:03 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
naalu pakkam vasanathai olunga pesuvaara vijay...... MGR pola vaL sulatri nadikka theriyuma......
(two days back i received a fwd message.... i guess many others would have also got that..... ALL INDIA XEROX MACHINE..... it has stills from pokkiri (telugu), arunachalam, abishek's hindi film (with playing card in his fingers), vattaram & finally pulikesi vadivelu..... idhula comedy ennanna indha ella pose-um vijay kuduthurukkaru)
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From: Roshan on 6th December 2007 09:12 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 09:23 AM [Full View]
Just before MGR bashing starts, he was the first one to bring commercial tropes which were to become the contrivances & cliches of our times. Twins separated, revenge, assumed identities, etc Not to say that Sivaji hasn't done all those. I'm just saying that MGR films had those elements which the northies hype in form of Manmohan desai or Salim-Javed, as if they *invented* it. Of course, not to say our MGr films are original. I'm just saying that MGR era wasn't a *cliche*, it has *become* over the period!
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 09:26 AM [Full View]
Gestural acting and propaganda (manifestations from social, political, and economical position of the characters) which many actors follow to this day. This is not to justify MGR. I know it's a guilty pleasure to be mesmerized by his charisma. As I said before, I'm not too proud of it. But, in terms of pure *masala* and tamil *overman*, MGR defined the norms. I hate him for that.
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From: Thirumaran on 6th December 2007 09:33 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
though i dont hate him for that :P
Oru Gap Kidaichaa Poathum, MGR a Mataam thatrathukku niraya paer kaathukitirukaanga
Of course, Aayiram Kaigal Maraithu nindraalim aathavan pughazh maraivathillai.
Intha Aathavan Marainthu 20 varusham aachu. Innum avar pughazh appadiye irukku. That is what matters
sorry for the digression
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From: ajithfederer on 6th December 2007 09:33 AM [Full View]
seringa nakkee
Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 09:40 AM [Full View]
Is Billgates Nakee? Originally Posted by ajithfederer
seringa nakkee
Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
He was the one who degraded KH and NT like anything. Now he acts as if he is the fan of KH.
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From: MADDY on 6th December 2007 09:42 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR then y did Rajini say "MGR-um naandhaan, sivajiyum nandhaan" ..........there is no doubt, Rajini is a tremendous actor and is better than MGR - but to compare MGR with vijay is typical HUB-provoke......
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 09:42 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Aayiram Kaigal Maraithu nindraalim Oscar Nayagan pughazh maraivathillai
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 09:45 AM [Full View]
And, even going by the "x" parameter, we can add Alex Pandian and Aval Appadithaan - "STYLE" unleashed! Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Few examples
Mullum Malarum. Buvana Oru ?. Johny, 6 to 60 ,Netrikaan
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 09:48 AM [Full View]
கற்றது தமிழ் 'ராம்'ஐ இதில் சேர்த்து கொள்ள முடியாது. அவர் திரைப்படத்தில் விவாதிக்கும் விஷயம் வேறு! Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
இந்த வகை கலாசார காவலர்களின் பட்டியல் எடுக்கலாமா? Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஹ்ம்ம்.. அப்படியென்றால் அப்படத்தின் நாயகி திருமணம் ஆகாமலே கற்பிழந்து ஒரு பிள்ளை பெற்று கொண்டு வாழ்வது எந்த கலாச்சாரமாம்? அதை இவர் போற்ற வேறு செய்வார், இவர்கள் இஷ்டப்படி தங்கள் கருத்துக்களை திரித்து கூறி கொண்டு, குஷ்பூவை மிரட்டியது எல்லாம் மிகவும் அநியாயம். இந்த கலாச்சார காவலர்களை முதலில் நாடு கடத்த வேண்டும்
சேரன்
தங்கர் பச்சான்
சீமான்
திருமா வளவன் (நடிகருங்கோ)
புதிதாக சேர்ந்தவர்
'கற்றது தமிழ்' ராம்
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From: ajithfederer on 6th December 2007 09:55 AM [Full View]
Recently i watched Thalapathi....Rajini was freakin natural and explosive in his acting
Originally Posted by Kalyasi
What abt Moondu mudichu, Moondru Mugam Alex Pandiyan, Bhairavi and the list goes on... Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Few examples Originally Posted by Billgates
Rajini and acting Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
Ada kadavule ! These are poles apart . He should be lucky & thank God & his stars that he survived during Kamal era.
However, he rules the BO.
Mullum Malarum. Buvana Oru ?. Johny, 6 to 60 ,Netrikaan
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 6th December 2007 10:55 AM [Full View]
Rajni and acting! He is an excellent actor Forget his old classics. He is very good in Annamalai,Padayappa [father role].
You need some guts to do role like "Ragavendhra"
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 11:22 AM [Full View]
The "gestural" acting of Rajini's earlier films is stylish indeed. And funny thing is, Rajini borrowed a lot from Sivaji ganesan, which is rarely noticed. Over the years, the gestures became unrefined with a sort of 'self-mockery' attached to it, he made a parody of himself at times, although embellishing his image to sky heights at other times. The "naturalness" in Rajini's earlier films has surfaced because of the *transformation* of his acting to "slapstick" or "gimmickry". It's all the more "natural" because those were the days he was unassuming, and seamless with his gestures. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
And, even going by the "x" parameter, we can add Alex Pandian and Aval Appadithaan - "STYLE" unleashed! Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Few examples
Mullum Malarum. Buvana Oru ?. Johny, 6 to 60 ,Netrikaan
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From: Billgates on 6th December 2007 11:23 AM [Full View]
Taking challenges & doing them well are different . In Raghanvendra, his play was pathetic . He could not even deliver dialogues well , nor he could position himself as a Seer like Raghavendra. Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
Rajni and acting! He is an excellent actor Forget his old classics. He is very good in Annamalai,Padayappa [father role].
You need some guts to do role like "Ragavendhra"
Also just imagine what would have happened if rajini had seriously considered doing character roles ( non masala , action roles ), it would have become a disaster to his career . We would not have seen a Super star , what he is today & his image. He cannot challenge Kamal in acting prowess & he would have failed miserably. If both had followed serious acting roles at the same time, you know very well, to whom the audience will vouch for.
Rajini was extremely lucky that he got away with just style . Infact , if you watch his fighting scenes of the past, your ribs will pain
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From: selvakumar on 6th December 2007 11:26 AM [Full View]
Neengaluma.. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
I just want to know one thing (I am already having a bad name for my comments on vijay. I dont want to extend it. this comparison is the worst one good ever imagine. Nerd is an MGR hater.. and I am not surprised
Just for e.g., (King getup itself is enough to throw away others And in that angle he will be miles ahead of others including rajini, kamal, etc IMO )
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From: MADDY on 6th December 2007 11:32 AM [Full View]
selva, y r u bothering to answer even Originally Posted by selvakumar
Neengaluma.. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Nerd
I din't know that TB put Rajini and MGR on the same pedestal.. WTF!! Even a hardcore Rajini-hater will not do that..Vijay has acted better than MGR
I just want to know one thing (I am already having a bad name for my comments on vijay. I dont want to extend it. this comparison is the worst one good ever imagine. Nerd is an MGR hater.. and I am not surprised
Just for e.g., (King getup itself is enough to throw away others And in that angle he will be miles ahead of others including rajini, kamal, etc IMO ) ......we all know, some rajini fans are still sore at the way MGR thrashed him......appa, MGR kuduthha adi-la dhaan ippa Rajini has become a good man
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 11:37 AM [Full View]
Rajini lacked in few things, Authentic Dialects, and hence Dialogue delivery, Dancing skills, and lack of cinematic sense. Now, how could he make up for the lack of the aforementioned qualities? To *transform* these gestures to gimmicks, and a sort of trademark for manifestation of his image In his earlier films (from KB to SPM), you could see the transformation of Rajini's acting. How he shifts gears to emote, and to "act" in general. The best part of Rajini is the usage of silence and deft expressions, to emote better. You could sense that even today in some of his masala films. Not that I'm a big fan of his emotionally explosive scenes or anyone's for that matter, an actor is more effective when he hides it behind the layers, and still convey it telepathically to the audience. This was exhibited by Rajini brilliantly. But over the period, you could see his lack of motivation. He started to give monologues facing the camera, the exaggerated delivery of the lines, the intent to make his presence felt in different scenes. This is where an actor fails IMO, such pretensions pushes the character out, and the "actor" takes over!
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 11:40 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Billgates
Yes and also thinking about kamal's dance and fight movements of those times my ribs are paining Only during the mid-eighties kamal refined himself after failing miserably competing with rajini in Action roles. One film nobody mentions here "Nallavanukku nallavan" will vouch for how much skill in acting that rajini had, lost due to his superstar status Kamal is a overhyped up actor IMHO.
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From: Thirumaran on 6th December 2007 11:42 AM [Full View]
Freeya Vittuuttu Poangannu solla thoanuthu. Aana mudiyala Originally Posted by selvakumar
Just for e.g., (King getup itself is enough to throw away others And in that angle he will be miles ahead of others including rajini, kamal, etc IMO )
There used to be negative comments on all actors, but when it comes to MGR the comments goes to a weirdest state.
1. MGR is Zero in acting.
2. Comparing him with others and degrade him as much.
Naalaikku vaera yaethaavathu oru context la . Loose Mohan is 1000 times better than MGR nnu solluvaanga.
There are several wonderful movies MGR involved with Meaningful performances and and directed few brilliant and entertainment movies.
Like some other threads in the past, 9 roopai noattu also became a thread fro thrashing MGR.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 11:45 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Billgates
Yes and also thinking about kamal's dance and fight movements of those times my ribs are paining Only during the mid-eighties kamal refined himself after failing miserably competing with rajini in Action roles. One film nobody mentions here "Nallavanukku nallavan" will vouch for how much skill in acting that rajini had, lost due to his superstar status Kamal is a overhyped up actor IMHO. His keen acumen in choosing different kind of roles paved way for his success. But his acting skills are down the drain. HE WILL PROVE THE BEST DIRECTOR EVER INDIA HAS WITNESSED IF HE RETIRES FROM ACTING AND ONLY DIRECTS. A Distant dream given his inclination towards acting nowadays Why Did KB kill the director in Kamal is a million dolalr question? did he not want to see a competition
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 11:45 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MADDY
appa, MGR kuduthha adi-la dhaan ippa Rajini has become a good man I condemn Dr.MGR's actions here! Maddy, It's all the more baffling that people define "good" or "bad", how gullible one must be (to blindly follow heavily flawed social contrusts.) No offense though.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 11:45 AM [Full View]
Selva, Originally Posted by selvakumar
Neengaluma..
I just want to know one thing (I am already having a bad name for my comments on vijay. I dont want to extend it. this comparison is the worst one good ever imagine. Nerd is an MGR hater.. and I am not surprised
My knowledge of MGR Filmography is weak but i'm confident i wouldn't change my opinion even if i were to watch all his films.
He was, is and will be the Tamil actor/politician to have the biggest and fanatical fan-following but as an actor, IMO he was nothing.
Even if you go by the "style" parameter, almost all his antics are downright hilarious... "idhayellam rasippaangala"-ngara sandhegam adikkakkadi varum...
I didn't have "MGR-hatred" when i agree with Nerd's comment. Only indifference.
Not sure what you meant here Originally Posted by selvakumar
Just for e.g., (King getup itself is enough to throw away others And in that angle he will be miles ahead of others including rajini, kamal, etc IMO )...
If he is better than Kamal/Rajini its in people power ALONE.
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 11:48 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
There are several wonderful movies MGR involved with Meaningful performances and and directed few brilliant and entertainment movies.
MGR may not be a great actor ,but his screen presense is tremendous ..Until now ,I like to watch his songs and action .
Guys ,you watch Nadodi mannan ..Directing such movie is not a joke.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 11:50 AM [Full View]
MGR vs Rajini, MGR vs Vijay and now Kamal vs Rajini a? Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Yes and also thinking about kamal's dance and fight movements of those times my ribs are paining Only during the mid-eighties kamal refined himself after failing miserably competing with rajini in Action roles. One film nobody mentions here "Nallavanukku nallavan" will vouch for how much skill in acting that rajini had, lost due to his superstar status Kamal is a overhyped up actor IMHO. His keen acumen in choosing different kind of roles paved way for his success. But his acting skills are down the drain. HE WILL PROVE THE BEST DIRECTOR EVER INDIA HAS WITNESSED IF HE RETIRES FROM ACTING AND ONLY DIRECTS. A Distant dream given his inclination towards acting nowadays Why Did KB kill the director in Kamal is a million dolalr question? did he not want to see a competition
RS,
Guess someone's started off a rib-tickling session here. Rib pain-a? None more painful (and hilarious) than your post here mate
The statement in bold speaks volumes about your blissful ignorance of what happened in tinsel town in the said period
1. Have you seen anything which moves (let alone movies) before the mid-eighties?
2. You have no clue about "action roles"
3. Your notion of "failed miserably" is just
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 11:55 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
That's why he was a terrific "villain".
Miss the Rajini with that bad ass attitude
And Aval Appadithaan is the citadel of style in my book (screen presence, charisma, etc etc.....)
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 11:56 AM [Full View]
I disagree that kamal competed with rajini in doing action roles. It was never so.
Kamal is not an overhyped actor. He constantly invents himself.
3 movies that really stand out are nayakan, guna & the recent anbe sivam. If U have noticed keenly in anbe sivam, the small nuances can be seen.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 11:57 AM [Full View]
Nakkeeran's ploy has worked yet again
Pitting one against the other:
First he pitted KH vs NT, now its KH vs RK
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 11:59 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Nakkeeran's ploy has worked yet again
Pitting one against the other:
First he pitted KH vs NT, now its KH vs RK I don't know why all these happening in 9 Rupah nottu thread Can we change the name to "Neeya Naana"?
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:07 PM [Full View]
Well I dont know many movies of his early to mid eighties movies but here is list for you to ponder over: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
MGR vs Rajini, MGR vs Vijay and now Kamal vs Rajini a?
RS,
Guess someone's started off a rib-tickling session here. Rib pain-a? None more painful (and hilarious) than your post here mate
The statement in bold speaks volumes about your blissful ignorance of what happened in tinsel town in the said period
1. Have you seen anything which moves (let alone movies) before the mid-eighties?
2. You have no clue about "action roles"
3. Your notion of "failed miserably" is just
Sakalakala vallavan
Thoongathe thambi thoongathe
uyarndha ullam
kaakki sattai
andha oru nimidam
naanum oru thozhilali
shanakrlaal
hare radha hare krishna
per sollum pillai
savaal
ellam inba mayam
vikram
simla special
mangamma sabatham
japanil kalyanaraman
enakkul oruvan
Apart from the first two movies , Every other one of was a boxoffice disaster and Kamal was almost considered as field-out unitl Nayagan came and saved him.
again he started with a string of flops like sathya, soorasamharam, vetrivizha etc., and was competing with Ramarajan,Vijaykanth and the likes for 2nd position in late 80's until Aboorva sagotharargal saved him and his position as no.2 was validated.
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 12:15 PM [Full View]
raja,
U are wrong. Kakhi sattai & savaal were hits.
So was vetri vizha.
To say that kamal competed with vkanth, ramarajan ... at best a good joke.
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From: MADDY on 6th December 2007 12:16 PM [Full View]
aaaahhhhaaa - neenga kamal fan-a?? Originally Posted by kamath
.....
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 12:17 PM [Full View]
rajasaranam,
* Your movie list order is very funny
* You conviniently missed out kamal's hit movies like punnagai mannan
* kaaki chattai - a box office disaster -a news to me
* kamal compete with Ramarajan and Vijayakanth for 2nd position
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:27 PM [Full View]
RS,
SKV, TTT and then Nayagan, and then straight to AS, eh?
adhAvadhu, adhukku munnAdi, adhukku naduvula, and adhukkappuram neenga appappo coma stage la iruppeenga pola
I rest my case Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:28 PM [Full View]
I dont know how old are you But being an ardent kamal fan I have track of his movies right from the beginning of 80's. Iam not so sure abt savaal but sure about Kakki sattai and vetri vizha that they were flops at BO. Originally Posted by kamath
And do try diggin into the archives of Kumudam, AV, thinathanthi of the 80's you will find details abt kamal to become out of field with his string of flops twice one in early 80's till nayagan and again in late eighties till AS. There are some facts which needs to be digested thought being hard.
And YES RR was highest paid after RK in the late 80's for a short period until Kamal came with AS.
I followed Kamal Till 2000's after which i got diverted to world cinema and knew how kamal has cheated us all in the name of acting. But still looking at his Directorial Skills Iam sure he can become one best director that Indian cinema can give to World.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Rs, you are THE ONE and we are in awe!
Makkale, gavaninga, The Master says "after which i got diverted to world cinema"-vaam.... ada daa.... Note pannungada Note Pannungada
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 12:32 PM [Full View]
Rajasaranam,
Have you heard about these movies (just 80s) excluding kamal's hindi ,telugu hits..
KALYANA RAMAN
guru
Varumayin Niram sivappu
Meendum Kokila
kadal meengal
vaazhve mayam
Moontram Pirai
Salangai Oli
Oru Kaithiyin Diary
sippikul muthu
Pesum padam
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:32 PM [Full View]
Rs,
One kostin: ithana nALA engaNNE irundheenga? Tamil Films section (and World Cinema section) too has been sorely missing The Master
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:36 PM [Full View]
Guru - Utter Flop, ran 13 shows in total, including Sri Lanka Originally Posted by joe
Moondram Pirai - Washout, ran 7 shows, and even that in Ega theater alone
Vaazhve Maayam - What is that?
Salangai Oli - Production Problems. Ramarajan tried to solve but was not released.
Swathi Muthyam - Producer committed suicide after its flop in Telugu and director Vishwanath vowed never to work with Kamal again
Pesum Padam - Couldnt even complete a week in Bangalore. Ramarajan compensated the distributors
Enna RS "The Master".. right-a?????
Oh, sorry, nenga appo World Film Festivals la busy-a irundheengalo?
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:37 PM [Full View]
naayagan was a 87 pongal release movie and Iam sure all the movies i've listed are released in the 80's before that. Did i say that i posted it any order???
And also Iam sure Sathya, SS, VV were between Nayagan and AS.
Now if you find this funny go and check before talking of being a kamal fan.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:38 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Now if you find this funny go and check before talking of being a kamal fan.
Saar, we are all fans of YOU saar
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From: MADDY on 6th December 2007 12:38 PM [Full View]
pesum padam did well at BO?? Originally Posted by joe
.........no further arguements 
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:40 PM [Full View]
thanks for being my fan But I was thinking we were talking about action movies which were in competition to RK. If you have comprehension problems Go to a doctor instead of wasting our time. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Now if you find this funny go and check before talking of being a kamal fan.
Saar, we are all fans of YOU saar
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 12:42 PM [Full View]
Thanks ! Originally Posted by MADDY
pesum padam did well at BO?? .........no further arguements
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 12:43 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Waiting for next post.....
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:47 PM [Full View]
Kalyanaraman super hit Originally Posted by joe
Guru super hit more than 500 days in srilanka
VNS
meendum kokila
kadal meengal
vaazhve maayam super hit
moondram pirai super hit
salangai oli super hit
oru kaithiyin dairy hit
Sippikul Muthu
pesum padam instead 'Pushpak' in bangalore 52 weeks
Hindi hits pathi konjam pesungalen Raaj thilak, yaadgar ellam. Rajini, Kamal rendu perayum oda doa veratti adichaanga northies. Kamal came with a better face than Rajini giving a hit movie like Saagar as the last one.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 12:48 PM [Full View]
Good for you! when you dont have answers :P Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Waiting for next post.....
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From: joe on 6th December 2007 12:52 PM [Full View]
Rajasaranam,
80's la moththam 2 padangala thavira ellam box office disaster-nnu sonneenga ..pls konjam parththu pottu kudunga
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From: selvakumar on 6th December 2007 01:03 PM [Full View]
Bala,Selva,
My knowledge of MGR Filmography is weak but i'm confident i wouldn't change my opinion even if i were to watch all his films.
There are many notable films in that list. If you can agree on others *acting* just with FEW films, I am not too sure why MGR cant fit in that I brought that KING getup thing just to compare the other actor whom Nerd brought in
I respect your opinion. He has several limitations. But few roles can only be done by HIMHe was, is and will be the Tamil actor/politician to have the biggest and fanatical fan-following but as an actor, IMO he was nothing.
I would say "Style" was never MGR's identity. His identity was more on larger than life image roles, characters that rural TN or south TN people easily attach too (Malaikallan, madhurai veeran etc). *Philosophical songs*, scenes that evoke +ve feel are his.Even if you go by the "style" parameter, almost all his antics are downright hilarious... "idhayellam rasippaangala"-ngara sandhegam adikkakkadi varum...
Style is more associated with Sivaji Ganesan if I am not wrong followed by others who made it even more special.
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
I didn't have "MGR-hatred" when i agree with Nerd's comment. Only indifference.
Not sure what you meant here...
If he is better than Kamal/Rajini its in people power ALONE. I disagree only on that part.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 01:11 PM [Full View]
You bet! How can someone have answers to gems like "Kaakki Chattai and VV were flops", "Ramarajan was the higher paid actor", "Only TTT and SKV were hits", "he reinvented himself only in the mid-eighties", huh? Spellbound Master, spellbound Originally Posted by rajasaranam
And to top it, how can i answer when you, the master "diverted your attention to world films from 2000"? No answer, i say! Only you fossible
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From: selvakumar on 6th December 2007 01:12 PM [Full View]
where is our dear RajaRam anna ?
Vetti thread la ellam argue pannuvaar.. Ippo aala kaanomae ?
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 01:14 PM [Full View]
The MAster RS was probably still "diverting attention to world films" when Kamal was giving Appu Raja, Hindustani and Chachi 420... Originally Posted by rajasaranam
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 01:26 PM [Full View]
Well, It's a known fact that Kamal was never into "Action" films with his mind and soul. Right from putting back his money to cinema, with "Raja paarvai". He *made* "Vikram" only because it was unconventional for Tamil cinema. It would be better if we pay more attention to Kamal's own production to understand him better, and not the roles that came his way. One other way of looking at it is: Kamal exceled in all genres, and different characterizations. At different phases of his career, he was seen as a romantic idol (in Gemini's mould,) a super actor (like Sivaji,) and a star, adding him to be the "Sakalakalavallavan". Now we see him as an Auteur who has the creative control over his products. Let's forget all that. Even in KB films, you could see Rajini's intent to exhibit his screen presence and not as the character, like say Kamal. While Rajini's "6 to 60", or "Raghavendra" were flops, so were the critical reception for these films. He wasn't seen as an 'super actor' back then, precisely why the informed tamil cinephiles of today claim that he's an "underrated" actor. Rajini couldn't carve a niche as an exceptional actor among masses, He realized his disadvantages, and transformed himself to reach the masses, built a "fanatical" kingdom if I may say so.
Saying that Kamal is an overhyped actor is fine. I find Al pacino way overrated. I find Brando overrated too. Even my single most favorite holly actor, De niro is overrated. Hoffman is underrated, Nicholson is goofy enough to be underrated. BUT, I think in terms of "acting" the role, Hollywood actors are no bigger than Kamal. I also find our own Sivaji and Kamal with Mifune, Peter O'toole, Daniel day-lewis, Mohanlal or Gary oldman to be exceptional actors, but underrated in world cinema terms.
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From: Billgates on 6th December 2007 01:34 PM [Full View]
Rasasaranam Ayya has successfully hijacked this thread !
The point is, whether Raini could have sustained more days if he had tried Character roles & competed with Kamal ? Big question mark . He would have packed off to Bangalore by the mid 80s. He was smart enough to understand his limitations, shortcomings as a full fledged actor & that’s how chose action roles . By the way, calling Guru, Varumayin niram S etc as flops is a very good joke of the day End Digression
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 01:40 PM [Full View]
Joe sir 80's kamal nadicha Action movies pathi mattum thaan naan paesinaen. Read the post properly Originally Posted by joe
Rajasaranam,
80's la moththam 2 padangala thavira ellam box office disaster-nnu sonneenga ..pls konjam parththu pottu kudunga
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 01:47 PM [Full View]
uyarndha ullam, andha oru nimidam, hare radha hare krishna, per sollum pillai, ellam inba mayam, simla special, japanil kalyanaraman
Ithellam action padangala?
Theriyama pochu.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 01:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Joe sir 80's kamal nadicha Action movies pathi mattum thaan naan paesinaen. Read the post properly Originally Posted by joe
Rajasaranam,
80's la moththam 2 padangala thavira ellam box office disaster-nnu sonneenga ..pls konjam parththu pottu kudunga
Rajasaranam
Kakkisattai is a superhit movie and Vetri Vizha is a hit movie. KS ran 125 days in towns like Kanchipuram,Chengaput and etc. I saw 100th day ad in many centers in Daily thanthi.
Another thing is Aboorva Sagothargal released on May 1989. Vetri vizha relased on Oct/Nov 89 along with Mappillai and Pudhu Pudhu Ardhangal.
Please check your facts.
Still i remember your posts during Vettaiyadu Vilaiyadu. Detective Anderson yen Tamila Pesalanu kettavarache !
Unga Ulaga Cinema Knowledge a Ninecha , Pullarikkudu.
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 01:53 PM [Full View]
Even in "action" films, I don't think Kamal resorted to gimmicks of any sort in his "acting". While he did perform stupid stunts himself, there was a versatility in playing "Enakul Oruvan" as against a "Sakalakalavallavan", one shouldn't ignore this!
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 01:55 PM [Full View]
Rajasaranam
KH gave 5 silver jubille hits in 1982. This was told my many people,many magaziines during that time.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 01:56 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kamath
uyarndha ullam, andha oru nimidam, hare radha hare krishna, per sollum pillai, ellam inba mayam, simla special, japanil kalyanaraman
Ithellam action padangala?
Theriyama pochu.
The MAster now claims he talked only about action films:
"Kamal refined himself only in the mid-eighties", "After SKV/TTT, only Nayagan saved him" (appo Nayagan action padama? ), "Why don't you talk about Kamal's Hindi films?.... Sagar was his last hit there", "Kakki Chattai and Vetri Vizha were flops", "Ramaraj was a higher paid actor" etc idhellam Master RS sollama avaru assistant solliruppaangalo?
Master RS, remba kozhambi poirukkeenga.. konjam "attention divert" pannittu vaango
EKSI
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 01:57 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
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From: Billgates on 6th December 2007 02:01 PM [Full View]
That’s because of Rasasaranam Ayya’s focus getting shifted totally to WORLD MOVIES. Lets give him some breather. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:04 PM [Full View]
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...ecords=100Days Originally Posted by Billgates
Ippdithaan 100 naal padam ellam ethavathu oru theatre'la pagal katchi pottu oda vittu 2007'la ellarayum padam hitnnu paesa vechitaanga
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...ilm=VetriVizha
Sivaji productions Shanthi theatrela??? Appa Chandra mukh 1000 naal odinaa kooda thappe illa :P
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...diranChandiran
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...px?Film=Sathya
Well i remember this poster aswel the 100th day thinathanthi Ad Madurai'Natana' vil 1oovathu naal
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...=SooraSamharam
Well atleast some of the kamal fans there running this site are honest for I can see that almost all the movies that were in my list are here:
http://www.universalherokamal.com/Un...Records=50Days
My memory was right and iam happy about it, somehow i missed only on kakkisattai. But still VNS pathi Iam sure that it shud have been only a pagal katchi in anuega, bala abirami, roopam or the likes because both Nizhalgal and VNS having the same storyline released on the same day and both were considered BO flops those days.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:08 PM [Full View]
Ippa therinjikittiyaa Originally Posted by kamath
uyarndha ullam, andha oru nimidam, hare radha hare krishna, per sollum pillai, ellam inba mayam, simla special, japanil kalyanaraman
Ithellam action padangala?
Theriyama pochu.
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From: Billgates on 6th December 2007 02:10 PM [Full View]
Ayya,
VNS was relased during Diwali ( along with Polladhavan , nizalgal etc ) . VNS was released in Devi Paradise & ran for 100 days ++.
I got this news.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:12 PM [Full View]
The point is, whether Kamal could have sustained more days if he had tried action roles & competed with Rajini ? Big question mark. He would have packed off to Paramkudi by the mid 80's. He was smart enough to understand his limitations, shortcomings as a full fledged action hero & that's how he chose character roles. Originally Posted by Billgates
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 02:17 PM [Full View]
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 02:21 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Master RS, Originally Posted by rajasaranam
If and while you recover from your coma or whatever, and manage to realize the contradictions and absurdities in your posts, would you "ponder over" the following:
1. Was Kamal doing only action roles till the mid 80s? IOW, he received nyanodhayam only in the mid 80s?
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo? [/quote]
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 02:22 PM [Full View]
He is so confused he is not sure what his premise or line of attack is Originally Posted by kamath
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list. It shifts even within his posts...
action films, hits, Ramarajan's salary... etc...
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:22 PM [Full View]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_film Originally Posted by kamath
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list.
Those were 100days list for which i gave some links, 50days links paarumaa kannu ellam naan chonna padamthaenAction films are a film genre where action sequences, such as fighting, stunts, car chases or explosions, take precedence over elements like characterization or complex plotting. The action typically involves individual efforts on the part of the hero, in contrast with most war films. The genre is closely linked with the thriller and adventure film genres.
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 02:24 PM [Full View]
[/quote] Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Master RS, Originally Posted by rajasaranam
If and while you recover from your coma or whatever, and manage to realize the contradictions and absurdities in your posts, would you "ponder over" the following:
1. Was Kamal doing only action roles till the mid 80s? IOW, he received nyanodhayam only in the mid 80s?
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:24 PM [Full View]
Not withstanding the truth of my posts you have resorted to personal attack. A true irrational kamal veriyan :thumsup: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
He is so confused he is not sure what his premise or line of attack is Originally Posted by kamath
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list. It shifts even within his posts...
action films, hits, Ramarajan's salary... etc...
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 02:27 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Another gem!
Mr.World Films Attention Diverter,
orumayila address panradha niruthavum modhalla.. appuram mathavangalukku saandridhazh vazhangalaam...
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 02:28 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Not withstanding the truth of my posts you have resorted to personal attack. A true irrational kamal veriyan :thumsup: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
He is so confused he is not sure what his premise or line of attack is Originally Posted by kamath
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list. It shifts even within his posts...
action films, hits, Ramarajan's salary... etc...
We cannot withstand your false posts here.
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From: Kalyasi on 6th December 2007 02:30 PM [Full View]
BTW Neenga thaan Dasavathaaram En Kadha nu Sonnatha?? Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Not withstanding the truth of my posts you have resorted to personal attack. A true irrational kamal veriyan :thumsup: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
He is so confused he is not sure what his premise or line of attack is Originally Posted by kamath
Probably Ur definition of action film is different.
Nee thaan world cinema paarkavanache.
By the way, U have listed films which were not in Ur list. It shifts even within his posts...
action films, hits, Ramarajan's salary... etc...
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:33 PM [Full View]
1.No He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion. Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Master RS,
If and while you recover from your coma or whatever, and manage to realize the contradictions and absurdities in your posts, would you "ponder over" the following:
1. Was Kamal doing only action roles till the mid 80s? IOW, he received nyanodhayam only in the mid 80s?
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
2.Tamil cinema delves into various definitions for a action hero some of the full fledged action heroes were Rajinikanth, Vijaykanth, Murali, Arjun from the 80's
3.Burma Bazaar XXX CD's kooda world film levelukku edukraanga maams athayum konjam vaangi paaru
mukkiyama sila padam recommend pannalaam Tera Patrick nadicha 'Teradise Island' matrum 'moore' Direct panna 'Pirates' vaangi paaru The filmmaking is world class
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 02:38 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
1.No He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion.
- If you have trouble comprehending my question or don't have the "stuff" to backup your absurdities, you make choose to skip the kostin
2.Tamil cinema delves into various definitions for a action hero some of the full fledged action heroes were Rajinikanth, Vijaykanth, Murali, Arjun from the 80's
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You keep getting better!
3.Burma Bazaar XXX CD's kooda world film levelukku edukraanga maams athayum konjam vaangi paaru
- "Maama", ennamo inglees padam peru ellam solra... naan enna RS "Maama"va, World Films paakka
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 02:39 PM [Full View]
In World cinema terms, Brando would have packed to Omaha if he did only westerns, and competed with John wayne, but why would anyone build such arguments? It happens Only in Tamil cinema
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:41 PM [Full View]
Fine that you have learnt to laught when you are angry and frustrated Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Another gem!
Mr.World Films Attention Diverter,
orumayila address panradha niruthavum modhalla.. appuram mathavangalukku saandridhazh vazhangalaam...
Sari Irrational kamal veriyar
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 02:42 PM [Full View]
No disrespect to "Westerns" though, I speak on metaphorical terms of course. Our supposed action oriented roles lack production values, it's best compared with their Steven Seagal's or such likes. I rest my case!
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From: Srimannarayanan on 6th December 2007 02:45 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
1.No He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion. Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Master RS,
If and while you recover from your coma or whatever, and manage to realize the contradictions and absurdities in your posts, would you "ponder over" the following:
1. Was Kamal doing only action roles till the mid 80s? IOW, he received nyanodhayam only in the mid 80s?
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
2.Tamil cinema delves into various definitions for a action hero some of the full fledged action heroes were Rajinikanth, Vijaykanth, Murali, Arjun from the 80's
3.Burma Bazaar XXX CD's kooda world film levelukku edukraanga maams athayum konjam vaangi paaru
mukkiyama sila padam recommend pannalaam Tera Patrick nadicha 'Teradise Island' matrum 'moore' Direct panna 'Pirates' vaangi paaru The filmmaking is world class
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:46 PM [Full View]
1. No commints Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
1.No He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion.
- If you have trouble comprehending my question or don't have the "stuff" to backup your absurdities, you make choose to skip the kostin
2.Tamil cinema delves into various definitions for a action hero some of the full fledged action heroes were Rajinikanth, Vijaykanth, Murali, Arjun from the 80's
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You keep getting better!
3.Burma Bazaar XXX CD's kooda world film levelukku edukraanga maams athayum konjam vaangi paaru
- "Maama", ennamo inglees padam peru ellam solra... naan enna RS "Maama"va, World Films paakka
2. Okay okay ivanga yaarum action hero action king ellam illa.
3. Itho vanthutaaryaa uthaamma puthiraroo.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:50 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
1.No He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion. Originally Posted by Srimannarayanan
Master RS,
If and while you recover from your coma or whatever, and manage to realize the contradictions and absurdities in your posts, would you "ponder over" the following:
1. Was Kamal doing only action roles till the mid 80s? IOW, he received nyanodhayam only in the mid 80s?
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
2.Tamil cinema delves into various definitions for a action hero some of the full fledged action heroes were Rajinikanth, Vijaykanth, Murali, Arjun from the 80's
3.Burma Bazaar XXX CD's kooda world film levelukku edukraanga maams athayum konjam vaangi paaru
mukkiyama sila padam recommend pannalaam Tera Patrick nadicha 'Teradise Island' matrum 'moore' Direct panna 'Pirates' vaangi paaru The filmmaking is world class 
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 02:51 PM [Full View]
He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion.
appadiya?
Eppadi? Yaarukume theriyadha vishayam unakku therinjirukku?
Burma bazaarla world cime kidaikudha?
athu theriyama ellarum enge engeyo alayaraangale.
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 02:51 PM [Full View]
RS Saar, Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Fine that you have learnt to laught when you are angry and frustrated
Sari Irrational kamal veriyar
I accept/concede defeat Saar
I have no answer to your "World Film" watching knowledge and insight.
Lessons i learnt from RS Maama:
1. Kamal tried hard to win the *pure action genre* battle but lost to Rajini. Murali is an action hero.
2. He kept trying (only in action movies) and losing till the mid 80s. With his tail between his legs, he suddenly decided to act in Nayagan. Before the mid 80's RS Maama will say Kamal acted only in action movies but he may deny saying that.
3. After that AS "saved" Kamal
4. Ramarajan got paid more than Kamal and the former has even bailed Kamal out when the latters films bombed
5. RS Maama is the sole authority on World Films and *acting* ever since he "diverted his attention to World Films".
6. RS Maama can, at his discretion call a movie "action" or "non-action" depending on his mood and the general net run rate.
Similarly, he can contradict his own posts at will, and can tolerate no questions on this.
However, please promise to keep us entertained like this going forward
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:53 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by kamath
He was trying his hand at it to compete with Rajini and after mid 80's and draggin it till late 80's looking at the movies he took up, the percentage of such films got reduced by a large proportion.
appadiya? YES
Eppadi? Yaarukume theriyadha vishayam unakku therinjirukku? ithellam apdiye varathuthaan, catch my point
Burma bazaarla world cime kidaikudha? YES
athu theriyama ellarum enge engeyo alayaraangale. Paavam Inime anga poga sollunga
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 02:59 PM [Full View]
Athu Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Definitely If you also promise to join in and show us your skills of comprehension Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
However, please promise to keep us entertained like this going forward
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th December 2007 03:02 PM [Full View]
RS Maama,
Laashtu kostin:
Neenga remba nerama "us" "us" nu solreengale.. yaaru saar andha "us"??? konjam last few pages-a revisit pannungo paappom
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 03:10 PM [Full View]
RK machi Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
RS Maama,
Laashtu kostin:
Neenga remba nerama "us" "us" nu solreengale.. yaaru saar andha "us"??? konjam last few pages-a revisit pannungo paappom
Naangallem nammalla orumaila eppavum sollikirathu illa
Kanna panninga thaan koottama varum Singam singleaa thaan varum :P
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 03:13 PM [Full View]
When MMKR & puthu paattu got released in the same theatre complex, ramarajan fans beat up kamal fans.
After that ramarajan appealed to his fans to keep calm after kamal complained to him.
Kamal went & requested mani ratnam to give him "life" after all his films bombed. Mani took pity & gave him a chance in nayakan.
Kamal could have asked RS since RS "eats, breathes & lives" world cinema.
Paavam kamal.
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 03:21 PM [Full View]
When Thalapathi and guna got released in udhayam complex kamal fans were wetting their pants while kamal's cut-out was burnt down. Originally Posted by kamath
Kaetkaliye sonnalum kaetka maataar avar.
Pazhaiya kathai ellam ethukku paavam kamal avara vittuduvom.
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 03:22 PM [Full View]
Bala,
Avoid RS's posts. Better to be like PR or Kannannn in these matters! In any case, We don't fall into world of "diplomacy" to win back few Gift Horses in return. Such double standards and practices are often exhibited by few sections here. (two radically different sections though)
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 03:30 PM [Full View]
Just because I avoided your posts it doesnt mean you can ask other people to avoid my posts. Why do you want to talk about double standards and all when you cant face the truth Originally Posted by thilak4life
You want to be diplomatic so be it. But they wanted some harmless fun and They are here for having fun and Iam enjoying It, why do you wanna spoil it 
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 03:38 PM [Full View]
You avoided my posts, so let me borrow your phrase,Just because I avoided your posts it doesnt mean you can ask other people to avoid my posts.
you cant face the truth
You want to be diplomatic so be it. I was NEVER diplomatic here. I hate "diplomacy" in general, not to say that I've never been diplomatic about things.
Aala vidunga Saamy!But they wanted some harmless fun and They are here for having fun and Iam enjoying It, why do you wanna spoil it :cry
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 03:51 PM [Full View]
I avoided your post because you were talking some sense which needed to be addressed diplomatically. But bythen some got into a mocking /fun mode and i got carried away by it and replied to them alone, enjoying the last few hours Originally Posted by thilak4life
You avoided my posts, so let me borrow your phrase,Just because I avoided your posts it doesnt mean you can ask other people to avoid my posts.
you cant face the truth
You want to be diplomatic so be it. I was NEVER diplomatic here. I hate "diplomacy" in general, not to say that I've never been diplomatic about things.
Aala vidunga Saamy!But they wanted some harmless fun and They are here for having fun and Iam enjoying It, why do you wanna spoil it :cry
Its nothing about truth or untruth. Its more about rationalism in a DF. If you cant be rational in the group of irrational mob, then be an anarchist.
Vittachu
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 03:55 PM [Full View]
ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்ட பத்திதான் இவளோ பக்கம் பேசி இருக்காங்கன்னு நெனச்சு இந்த திரிக்குள் நுழைபவர்கள் நிலைமைய நெனச்சா பரிதாபமா இருக்கு
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From: Kalyasi on 6th December 2007 04:06 PM [Full View]
Ithathaan naanum feel pannuven... Ellarum 9 Rs Note semma padam pola Rajini Kamal Acting pathi ellam debate panni irukaanga .. Kandippa intha padatha pakkanum nu padathukku ponaanga na Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்ட பத்திதான் இவளோ பக்கம் பேசி இருக்காங்கன்னு நெனச்சு இந்த திரிக்குள் நுழைபவர்கள் நிலைமைய நெனச்சா பரிதாபமா இருக்கு
Ippo intha matter ethunaala aarambitchathu.. Thangar's Comment abt Rajini ya? MGR, VJ debate naalaya? Reseach pannalaaam!!
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From: raaja_rasigan on 6th December 2007 04:25 PM [Full View]
2. I can give an example, though i can't define: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
none other than ...... aayiram theeviravadhigalai kondra aboorva captain....... engal VIJAYAKANTH....... innum evvalavu theeviravadhigal irukkangalo athanai perayum vara sllunga
3. adhu ella oorukkum etra ulaga cinema[/b]
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From: rajasaranam on 6th December 2007 04:36 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
2. I can give an example, though i can't define: Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
2. Define a "full fledged action hero" in Tamil cinema
3. Burma Bazaar la vaangara XXX cd-a thaan "world films" nu solreengalo?
none other than ...... aayiram theeviravadhigalai kondra aboorva captain....... engal VIJAYAKANTH....... innum evvalavu theeviravadhigal irukkangalo athanai perayum vara sllunga
3. adhu ella oorukkum etra ulaga cinema[/b] sonna purinjikave maatraanga
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From: kamath on 6th December 2007 06:19 PM [Full View]
RS,
It was the other way when maaveran & punnagai mannan were released in brindha theatre complex.
Don't beat around the bush.
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From: mr_karthik on 6th December 2007 06:51 PM [Full View]
இத்தனை பக்கமும் படித்து முடித்த பின் என் மனதுக்குள் எழும் கேள்வி ஒண்ணே ஒண்ணுதான்...
'ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படத்தில் கமல் நடிப்பு சூப்பரா?. அல்லது ரஜினி நடிப்பு சூப்பரா?.. அல்லது ராமராஜன் நடிப்பு சூப்பரா..??????.
(கொஞ்சம் கூட தலைப்பை விட்டு விலகாத விவாதம்)
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From: Kalyasi on 6th December 2007 06:58 PM [Full View]
Ramarajan wins Hands Down!!! Originally Posted by mr_karthik
Avaroda Costumes Thaaru Maaru!!
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From: rocketboy on 6th December 2007 07:25 PM [Full View]
Why did Thankar name his film 'Onpathu Rupai Nottu' ? I expected the whole movie to revolve around a nine rupee notu .
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From: thilak4life on 6th December 2007 08:42 PM [Full View]
Rajasaranam,
I wasn't talking "some sense". I gave my opinion, and a "reading" of Kamal/Rajini era, and later my opinion on the purported prowess in "Action films". Many would say that I stated the obvious. If you read the whole thread, you can see a defense of Rajini, Kamal, MGR, and Sivaji from my end. That of course is another subjective opinion. I have also criticized the actors in some ways. I accept that I lack in delicacy when I criticize, and I don't believe in such elusiveness either.
I disagree with you on the supposed "Irrationality", first up, there was no "mob" here. All of 'em are individuals, and have their own opinions, anecdotes, and facts (funny enough that facts differ when it comes to Tamil nadu's box office.) From your last post, it looks like you assume that their individual opinions (or "position" in such matters) has to be "conformist" when they are in coherence, and hence you played the "anarchist"?
As you said, it's not truth or lack of truth, but your points were refuted. Then it turned out into a slightly personal name-calling business when they laughed over your arguments. You assume the "mob" to be "kamal fans", and hence you tag 'em as "irrational". If you didn't know, Bill gates, Kamath, and the lot have often criticized Kamal themselves. Bala, in this thread has expressed his appreciation for Rajini, didn't criticize him blindly, and never made a hyperbolic case for Kamal. So, you're being judgmental here. When someone writes a sarcastic post, you bring (non sequitur) anecdotes to flame the thread. Perhaps it's in a jest, and with a tongue in cheek. But it didn't look that way, a rational argument couldn't be made when it takes such a route. Hence the shout for avoiding the discourse.
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From: Roshan on 6th December 2007 09:55 PM [Full View]
Thilak,
Pinnureenga
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From: Kalyasi on 6th December 2007 09:59 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thilak4life
Rajasaranam,
I wasn't talking "some sense". I gave my opinion, and a "reading" of Kamal/Rajini era, and later my opinion on the purported prowess in "Action films". Many would say that I stated the obvious. If you read the whole thread, you can see a defense of Rajini, Kamal, MGR, and Sivaji from my end. That of course is another subjective opinion. I have also criticized the actors in some ways. I accept that I lack in delicacy when I criticize, and I don't believe in such elusiveness either.
I disagree with you on the supposed "Irrationality", first up, there was no "mob" here. All of 'em are individuals, and have their own opinions, anecdotes, and facts (funny enough that facts differ when it comes to Tamil nadu's box office.) From your last post, it looks like you assume that their individual opinions (or "position" in such matters) has to be "conformist" when they are in coherence, and hence you played the "anarchist"?
As you said, it's not truth or lack of truth, but your points were refuted. Then it turned out into a slightly personal name-calling business when they laughed over your arguments. You assume the "mob" to be "kamal fans", and hence you tag 'em as "irrational". If you didn't know, Bill gates, Kamath, and the lot have often criticized Kamal themselves. Bala, in this thread has expressed his appreciation for Rajini, didn't criticize him blindly, and never made a hyperbolic case for Kamal. So, you're being judgmental here. When someone writes a sarcastic post, you bring (non sequitur) anecdotes to flame the thread. Perhaps it's in a jest, and with a tongue in cheek. But it didn't look that way, a rational argument couldn't be made when it takes such a route. Hence the shout for avoiding the discourse.
Soooooooooper
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From: Nerd on 7th December 2007 05:53 AM [Full View]
sooberabbu ippOnu pAthu I could not participate. hub-E eppOvAvathu dhaan kaLai kattum..
Anyway whats the latest on the uNdiyal outside the theaters???
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From: ajithfederer on 7th December 2007 05:59 AM [Full View]
Ippozhuthu nerd oru 250$ Moy seyvaar
Originally Posted by Nerd
sooberabbu ippOnu pAthu I could not participate. hub-E eppOvAvathu dhaan kaLai kattum..
Anyway whats the latest on the uNdiyal outside the theaters???
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From: raaja_rasigan on 7th December 2007 09:21 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Ippozhuthu nerd oru 250$ Moy seyvaar
Originally Posted by Nerd
sooberabbu ippOnu pAthu I could not participate. hub-E eppOvAvathu dhaan kaLai kattum..
Anyway whats the latest on the uNdiyal outside the theaters???
murugesi-ka?
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From: equanimus on 7th December 2007 01:27 PM [Full View]
[I'm checking this post after quite a while just to realise that the "topic of discussion" has changed to something altogether different. I hope no one minds this digressional late response from my side.]
I don't mean to pick on the lead character. Veeran is squarely pigeonholed as a jolly-going, indomitable hero with liberal doses of comicalness, and I'd have appreciated if it had drawn the line there. But, it attempts to be more serious about the portrayal, and that's why I think it's very insincere on the filmmaker's part to make a caricature of him. Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I did enjoy the humour in the initial sequences, but when it was protracted beyond a point, I was bored. If I remember correctly, the ear-severing scene was one of the final nails on the coffin for me. It was mischievous and all, but I couldn't appreciate it anymore. When Veeran and the kid beat up this guy called Ponanthinni, I threw my hands up. I didn't find it funny at all. In fact, in many places, the comedy is very much like trademark Vadivelu material, and Vadivelu does a far, far better job at it.
To be honest, the denouement is one of the reasons why I strongly reacted to the film. (Nothing much happens in the film till then, but still...) I thought it was a bluff on the audience. As an aside, I must note that I didn't even realise that the rapists were actually the same lorry drivers whom we saw earlier. I thought they were Kazhuvan's men, as they were supposed to hot on pursuit looking for Veeran. But, when I realised who they actually were, it was all the more duh-inducing. I mean, what was all the fuss about the love story and the disapproving father of the girl?
Nevertheless, I am eager to read your take on the film.
Thilak & Bala (I realise that you've seen the film already!), Originally Posted by thilak4life
I liked the film overall, some glitches here and there notwithstanding. Very watchable on the whole. Well written and enacted. A couple of terrific performances. Dhanush is really, really good, but the top honours go to Kishore Kumar who as the local Don Selvam is nothing short of superb.
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From: crajkumar_be on 7th December 2007 01:55 PM [Full View]
Yes! Rank bad along with the carnatic class and the flashback scenes... Unsurprisingly and unfortunately however, it "worked" for the audience and hence for Ameer Originally Posted by equanimus
Oh, didn't know his name.. is this his debut? Originally Posted by Equanimus
And needless to say, Daniel Balaji was absolutely annoying, carrying on from where he left off in VV...
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From: equanimus on 7th December 2007 03:39 PM [Full View]
Yes, I believe; in Tamil cinema, that is. He's a Kannada actor. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Oh, didn't know his name.. is this his debut? Originally Posted by Equanimus
His is a fantastic performance in a exceptionally well-written role. Vetrimaran even gives him a separate piece of theme music. In one of the "build-up" scenes in the film, I knew what was going to happen, but, at the same, I was half-expecting an Albert Finney-Miller's Crossing moment!
Yes, but I really appreciated Vetrimaran's choice here. Daniel Balaji dutifully plays Ravi as an extension of his annoying performance as a psychopath in VV, but Vetrimaran subverts this very same persona to conceive an absolutely insufferable younger brother of a respected Don, a closet-insecure good-for-nothinger, It's not just his performance that is insufferable, but he himself (his character, that is) is as much insufferable in the film. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Like Selvam nonchalantly remarks in the film, "mudiya vetta solRI, cinema rowdy mAri vaLaththugnu... curling vERa!"
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From: MADDY on 8th December 2007 09:07 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by equanimus
"mudiya vetta solRI, cinema rowdy mAri vaLaththugnu... curling vERa!" - whole theater cracked up when selvam says - "nee enna remo-va da?? "
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th December 2007 06:51 PM [Full View]
திரைப்படமாக எடுக்கப்பட்ட பல நாவல்கள் மனதைத் தொடுவதில்லை. காரணம், எழுத்தில் உள்ள ஏதோ ஒன்று திரையில் மிஸ் ஆகியிருக்கும். ஆனால், முதல்முறையாக நாவலைப் போல பத்து மடங்கு வீரியத்துடன் ஒரு படம் கொடுத் திருக்கிறார் தங்கர்பச்சான்.
கதை இதுதான். நல்ல வசதியுடனும் நல்ல பெயருடனும் கூட்டுக் குடும்பமாக வாழ்கிறார் மாதவப் படையாச்சி. ஒரு தருணத்தில் மனைவியுடன் வீட்டை விட்டு வெளியேறுகிறார். பல வருடங்கள் கழித்து சொந்த ஊருக்குத் தனி மரமாக வருகிறார். அவரது குடும்பமே சின்னாபின்னமாகக் கிடக்கிறது. மகன்கள் எல்லாம் சாப்பாட்டுக்கே கஷ்டப்படுகிறார்கள். பேரக் குழந்தை ‘பசி பசி’ என்று அழுவதைப் பார்க்கிறார் படையாச்சி. மறு நாள் காலையில் அவரது பிணம் பலாப்பழக் காட்டுக்குள் கிடக்கிறது.
நன்றாக நடிப்பவர் என்று கமல்ஹாசனைச் சொல்வார்கள். ‘நடிக்கவே தெரியாதவர்’ என்று சத்யராஜைச் சொல்லலாம்! எந்த ஹீரோ இமேஜும் பார்க்காமல், நடை உடை பாவனை என்று அனைத்திலும் மாதவப் படையாச்சி யாகவே மாறியிருப்பவரை நடிக்கவே தெரியாதவர் என்பதைத் தவிர வேறு எப்படி பாராட்டிச் சொல்லமுடியும்? ஜாதியே இல்லை என்று சொன்ன தந்தை பெரியாராக அவரைப் பார்த்தவர்கள், இன்னும் கொஞ்ச நாளுக்கு அவரை மாதவப் படையாச்சியாகத்தான் நினைக்கவே முடியும்.
பலாப்பழத் திருட்டை உற்சாகமாகக் கண்டுபிடிப்பது, நள்ளிரவில் மனைவிக்கு ஆதுரத்துடன் கால் பிடித்து விடுவது, மாட்டிடம் உதை வாங்கும் மகனைப் பார்த்துவிட்டுக் கலங்கி இரவில் தனக்குத்தானே புலம்புவது, ஓர் அகதி போல வெற்றுப் பார்வையுடன் நண்பர் வீட்டு வாசலில் நிற்பது, சொந்த ஊருக்கு வந்ததும் மண்ணில் விழுந்து வணங்கி, குழாய்த் தண்ணீரை தேவாமிர்தமாக அள்ளி அள்ளிப் பருகுவது... என்று ஒவ்வொரு காட்சியிலும் சத்யராஜை எழுந்து நின்று பாராட்டத் தோன்றுகிறது. ‘பெரியார்’ படத்துக்கான விருதை ஒரு கையிலும், இந்தப் படத்துக்கான விருதை மற்றொரு கையிலும் வாங்க வேண்டியதுதான் பாக்கி.
கிராமத்து எளிய மனைவியாக அர்ச்சனா. ‘வாள் முனீஸ்வரா’ என்று ஒவ்வொரு தடவையும் பெருங்குரலெடுத்து அவர் கதறும்போது நெஞ்சு பகீரென்கிறது. அதையே பலமுறை செய்யும்போது கொஞ்சம் நெருடுகிறது.
படம் முழுக்க ‘கவர்ச்சி’யாக வரும் வில்லன் தண்டபாணி யார் என்று கேட்கத் தோன்றுகிறது. அவர், சிவசங்கர் மாஸ்டர்! கிராமத்தில் பலரும் பார்த்திருக்கக்கூடிய நிஜ காரெக்டர். அவருக்கு எட்டு முழ ஜரிகை வேஷ்டி ஒன்றைப் பரிசாகத் தரலாம்.
இஸ்லாமிய நண்பராக வரும் நாஸரையும் அவர் மனைவியாக வரும் ரோஹிணியையும் ரொம்ப நாளைக்கு மறக்க முடியாது.
சலவைக்காரப் பெண்ணாக வரும் புதுமுகம் பளிச். கறுப்பு சதா!
‘ஆடு வளர்த்தா தோலுக மிச்சம். மாடு வளர்த்தா சாணிக மிச்சம். கோழியைப் பெத்தா முட்டைகள் மிச்சம். கொழந்தையைப் பெத்தா கோவணம் மிச்சம் வேலாயி’ நெஞ்சை உருக்கும் கவிப்பேரரசு வைரமுத்துவின் பாடல் வரிகளுக் காகத் தியேட்டரில் கரகோஷம் காதைப் பிளக்கிறது. பரத்வாஜின் இசையில் மண் மணம்.
கதை, திரைக்கதை, வசனம், ஒளாப்பதிவு, இயக்கம் என்று எல்லாமுமான தங்கர்பச்சானுக்கு பலாப்பழ எடையில் ஒரு தங்கக் கிரீடம் செய்து , அதிலே முந்திரிப் பழ சைஸில் வைரங்களைப் பதித்து கொஞ்சம் பத்திரக்கோட்டை மண்ணையும் தண்ணீரையும் கலந்து மகுடாபிஷேகம் செய்யலாம்!..
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From: joe on 12th December 2007 06:44 AM [Full View]
தங்கர் படத்திற்கு அலைமோதிய மக்கள்
தங்கர்பச்சானின் ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு படத்தைக் காண தமிழகம் முழுவதும் மக்கள் கூட்டம் அலைமோதியது.
தங்கர்பச்சான் இயக்கத்தில், சத்யராஜ், அர்ச்சனா, நாசர், ரோகினி ஆகியோரின் நடிப்பில் உருவாகி வெளியாகியுள்ள படம் 'ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு'.
குத்துப் பாட்டு, வெட்டுச் சண்டை, ஆபாச வசனங்கள், அரை குறை நடிகைகள், அர்த்தமற்ற காட்சிகள், பஞ்ச் டயலாக்குகள் என வழக்கமான தமிழ் சினிமாவுக்குரிய இலக்கணம் எதுவும் இல்லாமல், தமிழகத்து கிராம வாழ்க்கையின் நிதர்சனம், நட்பின் இலக்கணம், மத நல்லிணக்கம் என பல நல்ல விஷயங்களைத் தாங்கி உருவாகியுள்ள இந்த நல்ல படத்தைத் திரையிட, நல்ல தியேட்டர்கள் கிடைக்கவில்லை.
இதனால் தமிழகம் முழுவதும் வெறும் 30 தியேட்டர்களில் மட்டுமே இப்படத்தைத் திரையிட முடிந்தது.
தமிழ் மக்களின் வாழ்க்கையைச் சித்தரிக்கும் ஒரு படத்துக்கு தியேட்டர் இல்லை என்ற வேதனையை பொறுக்க முடியாமல் தங்கர் பச்சான் குமுறிக் கொண்டிருந்த நிலையில்தான், அதைக் கேள்விப்பட்டு தமிழகம் முழுவதும் தங்களது கட்டமைப்பில் உள்ள 100 தியேட்டர்களில் இப்படத்தை இலவசமாக திரையிட பிரமீட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனம் முன்வந்தது.
இதையடுத்து பகல் 11 மணிக்கு ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு படம் தமிழகம் முழுவதும் 100 தியேட்டர்களில் திரையிடப்பட்டது. இப்படத்தைக் காண வரும் மக்கள் முன்கூட்டியே கட்டணம் எதுவும் செலுத்தத் தேவையில்லை. தியேட்டருக்கு வெளியே வைக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் உண்டியலில், படத்தைப் பார்த்து விட்டு வந்த பின்னர் தங்களுக்கு இஷ்டப்பட்டதை வழங்கலாம் என அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது.
ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு படம் குறித்து பெருமளவில் பாசிட்டிவான விமர்சனங்கள் ஏற்கனேவ மீடியாக்களில் வெளியாகியிருந்ததால் மக்கள் கூட்டம் அலை மோதியது. இலவசமாக பார்க்கப் போகிறோம் என்று வராமல், உண்மையான ஆர்வத்துடன் குடும்பம் குடும்பமாக மக்கள் தியேட்டர்களில் குவிந்தனர்.
ஆயிரக்கணக்கில் குவிந்த மக்களைப் பார்த்த தியேட்டர் நிர்வாகிகள் பெரும் ஆச்சரியமடைந்தனர். பெரும்பாலானவர்கள் காலையிலேயே வந்து நீண்ட வரிசையில் காத்திருந்தனர்.
எம்.ஜி.ஆர்., சிவாஜி, கமல், ரஜினி, விஜய் போன்ற சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் நடிகர்களின் படங்களுக்கு மட்டுமே இப்படிப்பட்ட கூட்டத்தைக் கண்டிருந்த தியேட்டர்காரர்களுக்கு ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டுப் படத்தைக் காண வந்திருந்த ஆயிரக்கணக்கான மக்களைப் பார்த்து பெரும் வியப்பு ஏற்பட்டது.
பெரும்பாலான ரசிகர்களுக்கு இடம் கிடைக்காததால் ஏமாற்றத்துடன் திரும்பிச் சென்றனர். இருந்தாலும், டிக்கெட் கொடுத்தாவது இந்தப் படத்தை பார்த்தே தீருவோம் என்று அவர்கள் கூறிச் சென்றதைக் காண முடிந்தது.
சென்னை உட்லண்ட்ஸ் தியேட்டரில் தங்கர் பச்சான், சத்யராஜ் ஆகியோர் வருகை தந்து பார்வையாளர்களை குஷிப்படுத்தினர். படம் போடுவதற்கு முன்பு தங்கர் பச்சான் பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு கரங்கள் கூப்பி வணக்கமும், நன்றியும் தெரிவித்துப் பேசினார். அவர் கூறுகையில், நமது நாட்டில் 80 சதவீதம் பேர் விவசாயிகள்.
நமக்காக வியர்வையைச் சிந்தி நெல்லைக் கொடுக்கும் விவசாயிகள் தினசரி ஒரு வேளை சாப்பாட்டைக் கூட சரியாக சாப்பிட முடியாத நிலையில் உள்ளனர். ஆனால் நாம் விவசாயிகள் குறித்து ஒரு நிமிடம் கூட நினைத்துப் பார்ப்பதில்லை.
சினிமா நடிகர்களின் படங்களுக்கு பாலாபிஷேகம் செய்கிறோம், ரத்ததானம் செய்கிறோம்.
கிராமத்து மக்களின் வாழ்க்கையை, அந்த மக்களின் உண்மையான வாழ்க்கையை திரைப்படங்களில் பதிவு செய்யத் தவறி விட்டோம். பாரதிராஜா போன்றவர்கள் வந்த பிறகுதான் அந்த நிலை மாறியது.
மக்களின் பெரும் வரவேற்பைப் பெற்றுள்ள இப்படம் அமெரிக்காவிலும் திரையிடப்படுகிறது. மீடியாக்கள் இந்தப் படம் குறித்து நல்லபடியாக விமர்சனம் செய்துள்ளன. இதை மதிக்கிறேன், வணங்குகிறேன்.
பிரமீட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவன நிர்வாக இயக்குநர் சுவாமிநாதன் இந்தப் படத்தைப் பார்த்து விட்டு மக்கள் கருத்தை அறிய விரும்பினார். படம் பார்த்து விட்டு பணத்தை உண்டியலில் போட செய்தன் மூலம் மக்கள் கருத்தைத் தெரிந்து கொள்ளலாம் என்று முதலில் திட்டமிடப்பட்டது.
ஆனால் பின்னர் மக்கள் கருத்துதான் வேண்டும், பணம் தேவையில்லை என்று முடிவு செய்யப்பட்டது. எனவே இதை இலவசமாகவே திரையிடுகிறோம்.
ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு ஸ்வீடன், ஜப்பான், ஜெர்மனி மொழிகளிலும் வெளியிடப்படவுள்ளது என்றார். அதைத் தொடர்ந்து படம் திரையிடப்பட்டது.
படத்தைப் பார்த்த பெரும்பாலானவர்களால் அழுகையை கட்டுப்படுத்த முடியவில்லை. குறிப்பாக பெண்கள் கண்களில் தாரை தாரையாக வழிந்த நீரை கட்டுப்படுத்தக் கூடத் தோன்றாமல் பார்த்ததைக் காண முடிந்தது.
சந்தோஷமாக படத்தைப் பார்க்கப் போன ரசிகர்கள், படத்தைப் பார்த்து விட்டு வெளியே வந்தபோது கண்களில் கண்ணீர் ததும்ப திரும்பினர்.
படம் குறித்து அவர்கள் கூறுகையில், இதுதான் படம், இந்தப் படத்தைப் பார்க்கும்போது ஏதோ நம்மையே பார்த்துக் கொள்வது போல இருக்கிறது. மிக மிக இயல்பாக, தத்ரூபமாக எடுத்துள்ளார் தங்கர் பச்சான். சத்யராஜ் இதற்கு முன்பும் இதுபோல நடித்ததில்லை, இனிமேலும் அவரால் இப்படி நடிக்க முடியாது. நடித்தார் என்பதை விட வாழ்ந்துள்ளார் என்றுதான் கூற வேண்டும்.
தமிழ் சினிமாவுக்கும், தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்களுக்கும் இப்படிப்பட்ட படம்தான் வேண்டும். இது படம் அல்ல, நல்ல பாடம் என்று நெகிழ்ச்சியுடன் கூறினர்.
படத்தைப் பார்த்து விட்டு வந்த ரசிகர்களுக்கு இன்னொரு ஆச்சரியமாக சத்யராஜ், படத்தில் வருவதைப் போல தலப்பாக்கட்டு, வேட்டி, துண்டு, குச்சி சகிதம் தோன்றினார். அவரைப் பார்த்ததும் ரசிகர்கள் உற்சாகமாக குரல் எழுப்பினர்.
அவர்களிடம் சத்யராஜ் பேசுகையில், இது வெற்றிப் படமா, தோல்விப்படமா என்று கேட்டார். அதற்கு ரசிகர்கள், சாதாரண வெற்றி இல்லை, அமோக வெற்றி என்று சந்தோஷமாக குரல் கொடுத்தனர்.
தொடர்ந்து சத்யராஜ் பேசுகையில், நானும் விவசாயக் குடும்பத்தைச் சேர்ந்தவன்தான். இந்தப் படத்தைப் பற்றி உங்களது உறவினர்கள், நண்பர்கள், தெரிந்தவர்கள் என அனைவரிடமும் கூறுங்கள். போன் மூலமும், எஸ்.எம்.எஸ். மூலமும், அனைத்து வகைகளிலும் அவர்களுக்குச் சொல்லிப் படத்தைப் பார்க்கக் கூறுங்கள்.
உங்கள் அனைவரின் சார்பாகவும் தங்கர் பச்சானுக்கு மக்கள் இயக்குநர் என்ற பட்டத்தை நான் இப்போது கொடுக்கிறேன் என்று கூறினார்.
இதைக் கேட்டதும் கூட்டத்தினர் உற்சாகமாக கைதட்டி மகிழ்ச்சியை வெளிப்படுத்தினர்.
உணர்ச்சிவசப்பட்ட நிலையில் காணப்பட்ட தங்கர் அமைதியாக அமர்ந்திருந்தார். கண்களில் மட்டும் நீர் எட்டிப் பார்த்தது.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 26th December 2007 08:40 PM [Full View]
தங்கர்பச்சான் திரைப்படக் கல்லூரியில் ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் பிரிவில் சேர்ந்த அதே ஆண்டில்தான் நடிகர் நாசரும், நடிகை அர்ச்சனாவும் நடிப்புப் பிரிவில் சேர்ந்து படித்தார்கள். அப்போதே ஏற்பட்ட கலை நட்பு, இப்போது தங்கர்பச்சானின் `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' படத்திலும் வெளிப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. நாசர் கேரக்டரும், அர்ச்சனா கேரக்டரும் சத்ய ராஜின் மாதவ படையாச்சி கேரக்டருக்கு இணையாக அமைந்த பின் னணியிலும் இந்த `நட்பு' தான் இணைப்பாக இருந்திருக்கிறது.
திறமையானவர்களை கண்டுபிடித்து நட்பு பாராட்டுவது அன்றைக்கே தங்கருக்கு கைவந் திருக்கிறது. அது இன்றைக்கும் `ஒன்பது ரூபாய் நோட்டு' வெற்றி வரை தொடர்வது சந் தோஷம்தானே!
http://www.dailythanthi.com/magazine...mpa_Cinema.htm
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From: venkkiram on 5th April 2010 07:44 PM [Full View]
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From: Vivasaayi on 5th April 2010 08:18 PM [Full View]
sathyaraj
awesome ferformance in this movie...one of my fav performances..