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Topic started by m_23_bayarea on Thu Nov 17 14:16:25 2005.

Abhishek Bachchan stars in Mani Ratnam's Hollywood flick
- 17.11.2005
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A full pot does not overflow. Mani Ratnam does not over react. Why, he doesn't talk much either. Unnecessarily dragging him into his wife Suhasini's controversy, the idle mischief mongers called for a ban on screening his films in any part of the globe, and publicity hungry media also indulged in writing about this useless information. In the meantime, Mani Ratnam stepped into Hollywood cinema.

As usual, the story, scenes and first day of shooting are all a suspense. The only news that leaked out was who the hero of the film would be. It is none other than Abhishek Bachchan of 'Yuva' fame, where he was one of the three heroes. The sacrifices Abhishek did for starring in a Mani Ratnam film is expressive of the charisma his films have for Bollywood people.

Many years back, 'Sholay' was such a super bumper hit that it ran for actually years. Now Ram Gopal Varma plans to give a new avatar to it in 'Sholay 2.' Amitabh Bachchan will do the role of Gabbar Singh. Abhishek will do the hero role of Amitabh. When all was finalized and he was to leave for shooting, Abhishek got the call from Mani Ratnam. He was in a dilemma. Sholay or Mani Ratnam? The latter won hands down.

Mani has ruled supreme in Kollywood by making Hollywood type films. Of course, what type of film he will make for Hollywood, is a million dollar question!

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From: ssanjinika on Thu Nov 17 14:44:14 2005.

My personal opinion is that Mani Ratnam has lost it.His films no longer have the substance it once had.

(Dont we have a somewhat similer thread ..I mean for director bashing ??)
From: Nerd on Thu Nov 17 15:11:17 2005.

KM was upto the mark.. It was as good as any MR movie
From: ssanjinika on Thu Nov 17 16:48:25 2005.

it was sodappal no 1.
He got lost before the intervel itself
I think Aalipayuthe was his last good film...I thot AE concept was great but didnt like the way hed picturised the movie.

P.S I am not even sure if you'r appreciating the MR(ur KM remark could be taken either way )

From: vasanthkv on Thu Nov 17 16:50:49 2005.

ssanjinika wrote:

it was sodappal no 1.
He got lost before the intervel itself Razz

I think Aalipayuthe was his last good film...I thot AE concept was great but didnt like the way hed picturised the movie.

Its not sodappal.... Opinion differs. KM is one of the good movies by MR. I agree with your point on AE.

From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Nov 17 16:52:54 2005.

ssanjinika wrote:

I thot AE concept was great but didnt like the way hed picturised the movie.

I thought AE was awesome. He could have had the songs in full though .....
From: interz on Thu Nov 17 18:20:14 2005.

yep, i hated they didnt have the full version of "unmai sonnal nesipaya..." it was such a great song.

From: Nerd on Thu Nov 17 18:25:56 2005.

ssanjinika wrote:

it was sodappal no 1.
He got lost before the intervel itself Razz

I think Aalipayuthe was his last good film...I thot AE concept was great but didnt like the way hed picturised the movie.

P.S I am not even sure if you'r appreciating the MR(ur KM remark could be taken either way Wink

)

2nd half of AP was way off the mark. It was lame boring the last 30 mins or so. His best romantic movie was mouna raagam closely followed by ithayathai thirudaathE.

AE after the 3 chars meet each other he got confused and it ended up as a normal tamil movie.. dharani style

From: rachel on Thu Nov 17 18:32:19 2005.

so far i've watched maniratnam's
roja
bombay
AyuthaEluthu
alipayuthae
kannathil muthammittal
iruvar

i may have watched mouna raagam and thalapathy... but i 've forgotten.

but i love roja the best, then bombay ,then AE and alipayuthe are same ...good.

i want to watch thiyathai thrudathai... but it's not available here..
From: Surya on Thu Nov 17 18:44:53 2005.

Mani Rathnam is so far the best Director in Tamil Filmdom. The BEST!
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Nov 17 20:35:15 2005.

I like almost all his movies. The ones I think where he faultered a little bit were Dil Se (Uyire) and Iruvar. For some reason, these movies looked more like documentaries to me....But my favorites are THALAPATHY and NAYAGAN obviously !!!
From: Surya on Thu Nov 17 20:58:33 2005.

Iruvar was kind of an insight on Karunanithi and "Makkal Thilagam" MGR.

Dil Se.....I didn't like that movie either.
From: svaisn on Thu Nov 17 23:10:39 2005.

KM was one of MRs best.....

But I think MR can do some more tamil films... rather than going to Hollywood
From: Justice on Thu Nov 17 23:16:53 2005.

Nayakan the best ever movie made in Tamil Cinema

I watched
Nayakan
Bombay
Alaipayuthe
Roja
Uyire
And I like them in that order
From: kidils on Thu Nov 17 23:49:39 2005.

alaipayuthe also masterpiece in its own way...just look at the way its directed and the dialogues...just amazing. AE was substandard work from Mani...
From: Justice on Thu Nov 17 23:53:19 2005.

AE flopped due the the heroes of the movie
From: hi on Thu Nov 17 23:53:38 2005.

I like mouna ragam " silent melody"
From: svaisn on Fri Nov 18 0:00:13 2005.

justice wrote:

AE flopped due the the heroes of the movie

Heros ella justice...

One hero - Siddharth
From: kidils on Fri Nov 18 0:04:37 2005.

no it flopped because of the lack of story....it was uninteresting to watch the movie..

siddharth is a good actor...if u see the telugu film directed by Prabhu Deva u'll see it.. he is also going to be in a hindi movie now...and he has written the script for another telugu movie of his directed by Manirathnam's assistant.
From: Justice on Fri Nov 18 0:05:54 2005.

the coarse language which Madavan used in the movie spelt doom to the movie
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 0:34:19 2005.

his best movies acc to me(as for as I know) were..

mouna raagam
thaLapathi
roja
anjali
thiruda thiruda

in that order.
From: joe on Fri Nov 18 6:48:44 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

his best movies acc to me(as for as I know) were..

mouna raagam
thaLapathi
roja
anjali
thiruda thiruda

in that order.

sakthi,
You mean 'nayagan' not even in your list and Thiruda thiruda is better than Nayagan (or) You don't know about Nayagan?..Interesting
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 7:16:49 2005.

joe,

I know nayagan...

1. KAMAL WOULD DIE in the end.
2. It was full of violence.

so... its not in my fav list.
From: Sanjeevi on Fri Nov 18 7:21:35 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

joe,

I know nayagan...

1. KAMAL WOULD DIE in the end.
2. It was full of violence.

so... its not in my fav list.

what a pity?

Why these ladies generally don't like kamal movies with sad? I can't find any valid reason.
From: joe on Fri Nov 18 7:22:54 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

joe,

I know nayagan...

1. KAMAL WOULD DIE in the end.
2. It was full of violence.

so... its not in my fav list.

Thalapathi too full of violence and mamootty die in the end ..oh! mamooty seththa paravayillayo?..just kidding
From: Sanjeevi on Fri Nov 18 7:22:56 2005.

My fav. are

Mouna ragam
Nayagan
Idayathai thirudathey
Roja
Bombay

no way to add thiruda thiruda what a head ache movie
From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 7:28:11 2005.

NAYAGAN is undoubtedly Mani's best work so far
Then MOUNA RAAGAM
IRUVAR
Kannathil muthamittaal

Did I see some one say Alaipayuthe was a master piece It was just another love & blah blah film , very ordinary, so was AE except for the excellent theme of "youngsters in politics"

Dil se was an utter crap
From: cellvi2003 on Fri Nov 18 7:36:28 2005.

Yennappa "Anjali"yai maranthutingle, tho the film was copied from E.T., mani should be appreciated for the way he handled Baby Shamli.
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 7:39:24 2005.

eeks thanks vasanth. I forgot to add

alaipayuthE.
ithayathai thirudathE (wow..one of his best)

Sanjeevi, joe

apdi illa.....

kamalhassan makes me very emotional. I loved the movie otherwise.
From: Cinefan on Fri Nov 18 7:42:12 2005.

I like Mani a lot.His worst film-Bombay followed very closely by Dil Se.

Iruvar was killed by all that hype about Karunanidhi&M.G.R.It also kind of ended abruptly.But Mohal lal was a class act,just wish it was Kamal(who was Mani's original choice)rather than Prakash raj.

Alaipayuthe was good though it dragged at times&the September madham song could have been done away with.Arvind Swamy was a bit artificial.

AE was a good effort except for BR,couldn't he find someelse for that role?It also lacked punch in the second half.

KM is one of his best efforts.

There is no need to talk about his other mid 80's &early 90's films-class stamped all over them.
From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 7:43:21 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

eeks thanks vasanth. I forgot to add

alaipayuthE.

Sanjeevi, joe

apdi illa.....

kamalhassan makes me very emotional. I loved the movie otherwise.

Whatever u say, without "Nayagan" Mani probably wouldn't have got to this level .....Ur list ofcourse looks lost

//ithayathai thirudathE (wow..one of his best)
I felt Vijay Kanth was very handsome& better actor after watching this movie
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Nov 18 7:43:37 2005.

This would be my order
1. Nayagan
2. Kannathil Muthamittal
3. Roja
4. Mouna Raagam
5. Anjali
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 7:45:46 2005.

What do u mean vasanth
From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 7:47:16 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

What do u mean vasanth

very vague?
From: Cinefan on Fri Nov 18 7:48:15 2005.

vasanth_luv wrote:

I felt Vijay Kanth was very handsome& better actor after watching this movie
From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 7:49:31 2005.

I meant Naagarjuna's looks and acting capabilities
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 7:52:26 2005.

eh.. he was NOT BAD. I liked it more for the THEME, SONGS... THE CLIMAX.

Too good. It became an instant hit with college students of those days
From: Cinefan on Fri Nov 18 7:55:00 2005.

vasanth_luv wrote:

I meant Naagarjuna's looks and acting capabilities

You were comparing Nagarjuna with Vijaykanth Blashphemy.

Watch the movie in it's telugu version-Geethanjali.
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Nov 18 7:56:12 2005.

Nagarjuna at no way can be compared wit hVijayakanth..but Cine...Opinion differs! Alwayzzzzzz

From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 8:03:06 2005.

Cinefan wrote:

vasanth_luv wrote:

I meant Naagarjuna's looks and acting capabilities Embarassed

You were comparing Nagarjuna with Vijaykanth Evil or Very Mad

Blashphemy.

Watch the movie in it's telugu version-Geethanjali.

Err....I don't know much abt Naagarjuna's acting capabilities(In geethanjali or in other telugu movies), but I know that a lot of telugu ppl loathe him (amongst the ppl , I met)

From: ssanjinika on Fri Nov 18 9:37:06 2005.

The reason I didnt like KM was because I didnt get what he was trying to convey..the love between an adopted child and her adopted mother(which in my opinion was not brought out well) or srilankan revolution(Frankly the girl got on my nerves)..But then opinions do differ.
I absolutely loved Nayagan..it made MR.
From: mr_karthik on Fri Nov 18 9:37:43 2005.

Mani Rathnam also directed "Idhaya kOvil" for kOvai thambi.

Nobody mentioned about that movie.
Not even discussed, whether good or bad, like other films discussions.
From: ssanjinika on Fri Nov 18 9:40:11 2005.

mr_karthik wrote:

Mani Rathnam also directed "Idhaya kOvil" for kOvai thambi.

Didnt know that..Always thought Pagal Nilavu was his first tamil movie..though the first movie of his to be dubbed in tamil was one called Priya O Priya * Anil Kapoor and Lakshmi(it was made in Kannada)
From: arvind on Fri Nov 18 10:26:55 2005.

MR films minus ARR are hardly watchable. By the way, is there any Top 5 directors' list?

If so, it should be like this:
1. Perarasu
2. Dharani
3. Shankar
4. Selvaragavan
5. Mani Rathnam
From: ssanjinika on Fri Nov 18 10:30:33 2005.

arvind wrote:

MR films minus ARR are hardly watchable. By the way, is there any Top 5 directors' list?

Are
Nayagan
Agni Nakshatiram
Idhayathai Thirudathey
Anjali

all not watchable????!!!!!!!!!
From: joe on Fri Nov 18 10:56:44 2005.

oh!my GOD..Perarasu became No1 director in tamil..kalikaalamada.

From: vasanthkv on Fri Nov 18 11:19:54 2005.

arvind wrote:

MR films minus ARR are hardly watchable. By the way, is there any Top 5 directors' list?

If so, it should be like this:
1. Perarasu
2. Dharani
3. Shankar
4. Selvaragavan
5. Mani Rathnam

Arvind thambi, comedy pannatheenga.......

From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 11:35:51 2005.

who is perarasu?
From: ssanjinika on Fri Nov 18 11:37:34 2005.

Think hes the director of sivakasi...
Ok people(VJ fans in particular) dont bash me up..Im just guessing here.
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 18 11:45:53 2005.

hehehe ok sajinika

From: Justice on Fri Nov 18 13:24:36 2005.

you are unique person

I'm sure you were impressed by his "perarasu's name"

after all are you vijaykanth fan? Rolling Eyes

arvind wrote:

MR films minus ARR are hardly watchable. By the way, is there any Top 5 directors' list?

If so, it should be like this:
1. Perarasu
2. Dharani
3. Shankar
4. Selvaragavan
5. Mani Rathnam

From: Nerd on Fri Nov 18 15:35:50 2005.

Since the list of MR movies I like is exhaustive, I will list out his lousy attempts

uyirE - No one knew whats going on including MR I think!

AE - Decent attempt. No way near MR standards

AP - Though I like this movie very much again it went way off the mark in the second half.

Did someone say that nagarjuna is not a good actor?? Watch ithayathi thirudaathE! Thats my all time favourite romantic movie and it was a huge hit among college-goers of that time. Also the costumes of the heroine were the talk of the town. *Girija model* dress was very famous The climax was spectacular. How can one forget *OdipOlaamaa*

I also liked TT a lot. Neatly done. I still wonder how come it dint fare well at the BO. In fact its a huge flop. It had awesome songs too. One of ARR's all-time best
From: ssanjinika on Fri Nov 18 15:50:10 2005.

Whats AP???Cant think of any MR having those initials!

Alaipaayuthe?????!!!!!

Shucks Kasi it is one of my fav movies!!
Too bad you didnt like it.
From: P_R on Fri Nov 18 15:53:33 2005.

kasi_sce wrote:

uyirE - No one knew whats going on including MR I think!
Et tu ?

Lots of UyirE bashing here. Come on, it is not so bad. Perhaps the disappointment is because everyone went expecting a nationalistic spirit film. It was so not.

Apart from the obvious counterpoints, the uglier side of what we proudly call us etc. the movie was a maverick love story. Not the Alaipayuthey,AgniNatchatram style "let us decide to fall in love and talk some smart lines" style.

It was an intense, and IMO a well portrayed, love story between a man who dreams and gets his naivete exposed. There is a complete disconnect between Amar's love and his reality. His engagement and his love, his army-lineage and his affinity, his spontaneity moving towards discovery. It is the story of a man who follows his heart no matter how absurd things get ( I am beginning to sound like a DVD blurb) and so on.

The movie really plays with the viewer in the climax. Are you pining for SRK catching Manisha before she blows the place up, or are you pining for them to come together ?

Dil Se may have been treated so shabbily at the BO but the hubbers panning it too, is way too harsh.
From: Nerd on Fri Nov 18 15:55:57 2005.

I said I like that movie very much. I thorougly enjoyed it till shakthi gets hit by kushboo's car. After that I was restless and wondering when will the movie end! I came out with a slight headache too

someone mentioned about idhayakOvil. I think MR is not the scriptwriter for that. He just directed it. That was a decent movie with really good songs. My favourite is UrOramaa aaththuppakkam thennanthOppu
From: Nerd on Fri Nov 18 15:58:47 2005.

Quote:

I am beginning to sound like a DVD blurb

Thats exactly what I was thinking

I went to the movie first day evening show I think. 43 heads in the theatre and am not kidding.

From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Nov 18 16:56:14 2005.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Lots of UyirE bashing here. Come on, it is not so bad. Perhaps the disappointment is because everyone went expecting a nationalistic spirit film. It was so not.

Apart from the obvious counterpoints, the uglier side of what we proudly call us etc. the movie was a maverick love story. Not the Alaipayuthey,AgniNatchatram style "let us decide to fall in love and talk some smart lines" style.

It was an intense, and IMO a well portrayed, love story between a man who dreams and gets his naivete exposed. There is a complete disconnect between Amar's love and his reality. His engagement and his love, his army-lineage and his affinity, his spontaneity moving towards discovery. It is the story of a man who follows his heart no matter how absurd things get ( I am beginning to sound like a DVD blurb) and so on.

The movie really plays with the viewer in the climax. Are you pining for SRK catching Manisha before she blows the place up, or are you pining for them to come together ?

Dil Se may have been treated so shabbily at the BO but the hubbers panning it too, is way too harsh.

When I was in college, about 15 of us went to Devi Paradise in Madras to watch UYIRE first day first show. So we get the tickets in black and all that, and after hearing all those chartbuster songs from ARR and watching the promos pre-release, we were expecting another ROJA or BOMBAY.

But what happened inside the theatre was so different. A full house theatre, and after the first 15-20 minutes had a pin-drop silence, cos the movie was so boring. About 5 mins before the interval, one of the guys in the theatre stands up and shouts with all his might saying,

"News a niruthittu padatha podunga daa"....

From: Justice on Fri Nov 18 16:58:20 2005.

From: Alien on Fri Nov 18 18:35:48 2005.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

LMAO !!! I could imagine ! I had the same feeling, irritating to the core

Nice narration bay

From: rachel on Sat Nov 19 3:39:10 2005.

From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 4:21:21 2005.

kasi_sce wrote:

Did someone say that nagarjuna is not a good actor?? Watch ithayathi thirudaathE! Thats my all time favourite romantic movie and it was a huge hit among college-goers of that time. Also the costumes of the heroine were the talk of the town. *Girija model* dress was very famous Cool

The climax was spectacular. How can one forget *OdipOlaamaa* Smile

Nothing like "GIRIJA MODEL" dress was there and I definitely know what I am talking. Atleast that was not famous in chennai.

Yeah "Odippohalamaa" was a famous dialogue those days uttered by coll kids.

IdayakkOvil was a WONDERFUL MOVIE with lovely songs. I did not know its MR's movie.

I think after reading prabhu_ram's review, I wanna watch DILSE too. (may be not uyire)

From: rachel on Sat Nov 19 5:39:32 2005.

what's the story of ithayathai thirudathe?
it's got sad ending or not?
i like nargajuna.
From: Nerd on Sat Nov 19 10:59:26 2005.

Quote:

Nothing like "GIRIJA MODEL" dress was there and I definitely know what I am talking. Atleast that was not famous in chennai.

It might not have been famous but atleast I remember my cousin wearing that dress.. I still rem its a yellow colored (midi or what I dont know)
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 11:30:13 2005.

hmm.. if i remember right, its kinda gagra choLi.. with colourful yellow orred, green or blue or some striking combi. I think infact gagra choli made its entry in the south probably after this movie?!? not sure.
From: Nerd on Sat Nov 19 11:40:54 2005.

Rightly said.. Thats a gagra choli only
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 12:43:12 2005.

rachel wrote:

what's the story of ithayathai thirudathe?
it's got sad ending or not?
i like nargajuna.

Its a story of a young buoyant, happy guy whoz suddenly diagnosed cancer, left with no option but counting months. He is so solemn about the tragedy, until he meets a girl(girija) who is a victim of similar misery.

The contrast character in girija(bubbly, carefree, noworry type) would attract him to her, eventually they fall in love, proving great solace for each other.

Girija's mischief, outrageous behaviour adds colour to the movie, which otherwise starts with a sad note.

Everytime she would meet nagarjuna she would tease him "hey..Odi poidalaam variya" with enourmous amount of mischievous glint in her eyes. That dialogue caught amidst youngsters like fire.

The climax wont show them succumbing to death, but would end with a note that, THEY ARE THERE FOR EACH OTHER TO FIGHT THE INVEVITABLE with courage. Thats what I liked bout the movie.

I liked the foll dialogue. It made me ponder about life itself! (I dont remember the exact dialogue, but the meaning
conveyed would be more or less same)

nagarjuna: unakku nee sethu porennu theriyum thanE?

girija: theriyumE.

nagarjuna: Epdi, epdi ivlo easy aa, jollya...eduthukarE..

Girja: inga paaru... ulagathula porantha ellaam oru naal sethu poganam. intha chedi, antha poo, intha maram, tho anga irukkalE enga patti, iva en thangachi, etho intha chinna ponnu, nee ... naan... koodath thaan.

Enna naan konjam munnadi sethu poida poren avlo thanE!...

She would present such carefree, innocent attitude that nobody can help crying.

The movie should be watched more for GIRIJA than NAgarjuna. Sad she did not make it well in filmdom.

LOVELY MELODIOUS SONGS. The movie was liked a lot by college students of those years, for the sheer mischief which it portrayed.
From: Nerd on Sat Nov 19 12:52:43 2005.

The best part is in the climax girija will be at the verge of death. When nagarjuna comes to meet her again (I guess in the hospital/railway station) she will ask "OdippOlaamaa" again. so sweet

Forgot the movie its been a long time since I watched that
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 12:52:44 2005.

kasi_sce wrote:

Rightly said.. Thats a gagra choli only

Sad u compared it with middi. My heart broke I am sure if u tell it to ur cousin, she would have similar effect

From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 12:53:38 2005.

kasi_sce wrote:

The best part is in the climax girija will be at the verge of death. When nagarjuna comes to meet her again (I guess in the hospital/railway station) she will ask "OdippOlaamaa" again. so sweet Laughing

hmm... very very touchy

From: Justice on Sat Nov 19 12:55:36 2005.

what a long boring post. I think you hinted me the quality of the film Laughing

Shakthiprabha wrote:

rachel wrote:

what's the story of ithayathai thirudathe?
it's got sad ending or not?
i like nargajuna.

Its a story of a young buoyant, happy guy whoz suddenly diagnosed cancer, left with no option but counting months. He is so solemn about the tragedy, until he meets a girl(girija) who is a victim of similar misery.

The contrast character in girija(bubbly, carefree, noworry type) would attract him to her, eventually they fall in love, proving great solace for each other.

Girija's mischief, outrageous behaviour adds colour to the movie, which otherwise starts with a sad note.

Everytime she would meet nagarjuna she would tease him "hey..Odi poidalaam variya" with enourmous amount of mischievous glint in her eyes. That dialogue caught amidst youngsters like fire.

The climax wont show them succumbing to death, but would end with a note that, THEY ARE THERE FOR EACH OTHER TO FIGHT THE INVEVITABLE with courage. Thats what I liked bout the movie.

I liked the foll dialogue. It made me ponder about life itself! (I dont remember the exact dialogue, but the meaning
conveyed would be more or less same)

nagarjuna: unakku nee sethu porennu theriyum thanE?

girija: theriyumE.

nagarjuna: Epdi, epdi ivlo easy aa, jollya...eduthukarE..

Girja: inga paaru... ulagathula porantha ellaam oru naal sethu poganam. intha chedi, antha poo, intha maram, tho anga irukkalE enga patti, iva en thangachi, etho intha chinna ponnu, nee ... naan... koodath thaan.

Enna naan konjam munnadi sethu poida poren avlo thanE!...

She would present such carefree, innocent attitude that nobody can help crying.

The movie should be watched more for GIRIJA than NAgarjuna. Sad she did not make it well in filmdom.

LOVELY MELODIOUS SONGS. The movie was liked a lot by college students of those years, for the sheer mischief which it portrayed.

From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 13:01:21 2005.

justice wrote:

what a long boring post. I think you hinted me the quality of the film Laughing

Shakthiprabha wrote:

rachel wrote:

what's the story of ithayathai thirudathe?
it's got sad ending or not?
i like nargajuna.

JUSTICEE!!!!!!!!! Dont talk about "Ithayathai thirudathE".
May be I goofed up in narration part. Its a nice movie

Now, that should keep u in place for couple of days, until u pop up again to post great about ur ajit's LOUSY movies.

From: Justice on Sat Nov 19 13:39:24 2005.

people are vulnerable
From: Nerd on Sat Nov 19 13:44:26 2005.

Justice if you dont have a point to make, be silent rather than ridiculing each and every post of others
From: Justice on Sat Nov 19 13:45:23 2005.

what?

I asked her if she's hinting the film is boring?
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 13:50:37 2005.

everyone has their tender side too...
(thats female version)

*****

male version would be...

Justice...enakku innoru mugam irukku AARAVATHU MUGAM. AThai...SeendathE........

hahah kidding gotta go bye ppl.
From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Nov 19 13:51:28 2005.

justice wrote:

what?

I asked her if she's hinting the film is boring?

u are IMPOSSSSSSSSIBLE JUSTICE. bye .

From: rachel on Sat Nov 19 18:03:42 2005.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

rachel wrote:

what's the story of ithayathai thirudathe?
it's got sad ending or not?
i like nargajuna.

o..my god...

i don't think i'd ever watch this movie.....o my god..so sad...

it really sucks.....

From: nilavupriyan on Sat Nov 19 23:16:31 2005.

mani ratnam is the only director .....who is the favourite of youth in 80's,90's and in 00's.......he had been trendy all these days........great!

but only one thing.......his direction doesnt have the originality that barathiraja,balachandar or mahendran had....he had the flavours of english movies all the way....

From: mr_karthik on Sun Nov 20 6:24:59 2005.

ssanjinika wrote:

mr_karthik wrote:

Mani Rathnam also directed "Idhaya kOvil" for kOvai thambi.

Didnt know that..Always thought Pagal Nilavu was his first tamil movie..though the first movie of his to be dubbed in tamil was one called Priya O Priya * Anil Kapoor and Lakshmi(it was made in Kannada)

If Ilaiya Raja fans see your answer..... ungaLai kizhi kzhinnu kizhippAnga.

Because they made a big, deep discussion about this movie 'Idhaya kOvil' in Ilaiyaraja's forum.

From: Sinthiya on Sun Nov 20 14:33:34 2005.

justice wrote:

AE flopped due the the heroes of the movie

...except Madhavan...

justice wrote:

the coarse language which Madavan used in the movie spelt doom to the movie

......
From: Justice on Sun Nov 20 14:52:11 2005.

Sinthiya wrote:

justice wrote:

AE flopped due the the heroes of the movie

...except Madhavan...

ya except madavan. if it's profit is 1 crore then it's due to maddy

Sinthiya wrote:

justice wrote:

the coarse language which Madavan used in the movie spelt doom to the movie

......

I just said for the sake of public. infact, that's the only thing I liked in the movie

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Nov 20 18:09:13 2005.

vasanth_luv wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

LMAO !!! I could imagine ! I had the same feeling, irritating to the core Mad

Nice narration bay Cool

Thanks Machi !!!

From: ssanjinika on Mon Nov 21 10:03:11 2005.

[quote="mr_karthik]If Ilaiya Raja fans see your answer..... ungaLai kizhi kzhinnu kizhippAnga.

Because they made a big, deep discussion about this movie 'Idhaya kOvil' in Ilaiyaraja's forum.[/quote]

Hey I only said I didnt know MR Directed the movie not I dont know the movie Idhya Kovil or that its music director was IR!!!
Who can forget the song "Idhayam oru Kovil adhil udayam oru padal..."?
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Nov 21 11:56:58 2005.

Mani Sir IMO is one the most versatile directors in TF (and even IF) industry. Though it maybe said that he gives more importance to form than content, that he manages to only touch upon issues but doesn't go further or deeper, that his casting isn't always appropriate etc. Valid points, these. However, with all we may perceive as his shortcomings, his touch is so unique, his canvas is so wide, and unlike the other greats of our times, he is still in touch with today's culture, style, pace and issues.
We are lucky to have him still working, given his heart condition. Hope he lives long and continues to give works of quality.

My favorite MR movies are:
1. Kannathil Muthamittal
2. Mouna Ragam
3. Nayagan
4. Thalabadhi
5. Iruvar (haven't watched it fully.....Technically exceptional)

And needless to say, he always manages to get the best out of both IR and ARR. Even if his movie doesn't become a hit, the music always scores!
From: Justice on Mon Nov 21 13:12:24 2005.

I suddenly remembered a thing
almost same

once we were watching Aalavandan, one guy screamed like "dei cartoon i niritheetu, padathai podungada"

plz don't laugh

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Thanks Machi !!!
From: m_23_bayarea on Mon Nov 21 15:40:16 2005.

justice wrote:

I suddenly remembered a thing
almost same

once we were watching Aalavandan, one guy screamed like "dei cartoon i niritheetu, padathai podungada"

plz don't laugh
From: Sanjeevi on Wed Nov 23 7:39:33 2005.

Ithayathai Thridathey has uncomparable, mind blowing BGM by Ilaiyaraja. The BGM is one my favourite. I saw many times only for BGM.
From: NERUPPU on Thu Nov 24 22:03:41 2005.

does anyone know what happened to that doc. film/ad that maniratnam was making starring tendulkar for the physically handicapped? did it see the light of the day?
From: svaisn on Thu Nov 24 23:35:27 2005.

NERUPPU wrote:

does anyone know what happened to that doc. film/ad that maniratnam was making starring tendulkar for the physically handicapped? did it see the light of the day?

This ad was there in SS Music channel for few days....

Later it was not telecasted
From: Justice on Thu Nov 24 23:38:29 2005.

karthik ane, you have the best vijay avatar

From: hi on Fri Nov 25 0:13:48 2005.

Quote:

nagarjuna: unakku nee sethu porennu theriyum thanE?

girija: theriyumE.

nagarjuna: Epdi, epdi ivlo easy aa, jollya...eduthukarE..

Girja: inga paaru... ulagathula porantha ellaam oru naal sethu poganam. intha chedi, antha poo, intha maram, tho anga irukkalE enga patti, iva en thangachi, etho intha chinna ponnu, nee ... naan... koodath thaan.

Enna naan konjam munnadi sethu poida poren avlo thanE!...

She would present such carefree, innocent attitude that nobody can help crying.

Soon after girija find out that he is also suffering frm illness.... nagarjun will repeat the same dialogue... for that she will say: yennaku en uyire vida un uyire dhan mukiyam

From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Nov 25 0:47:44 2005.

hi wrote:

Quote:

Soon after girija find out that he is also suffering frm illness.... nagarjun will repeat the same dialogue... for that she will say: yennaku en uyire vida un uyire dhan mukiyam

yes. yes.

What a movie! What a movie!

From: m_23_bayarea on Sat Nov 26 14:23:40 2005.

Mani Ratnam keeps quiet!

By Moviebuzz
Thursday, 24 November , 2005, 21:11

Everybody in the industry is curious about why Mani Ratnam kept quiet when his wife Suhasini was at the receiving end of the vicious campaign unleashed by the so called protectors of Tamil culture.

Mani Ratnam who has made some of the finest movies with strong women characters, is keeping cool. The guys who are playing the role of �moral policemen� of Tamilnadu are some of his biggest critics. Mani has shown a great amount of maturity by not getting involved in unnecessary slanging match with people who do not believe in basics of democracy and freedom of expression.

It is said that Mani sir is working on the script of his next film. Recently, at the private screening of a film, a much relaxed Mani when questioned about his next film said in a lighter vein: �Right now, I am a jobless man, at the same time I keep myself fit by playing golf�. Mani has a handicap of 14 which they say is the signs of an emerging player.
From: Justice on Sat Nov 26 19:12:11 2005.

my parents liked two Maniratnam movies, Bombay and Cheekla kiss koduthal
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Dec 1 14:47:05 2005.

Mani makes his move
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, December 01, 2005]

The buzz in Kollywood is that director Manirathinam might do a cross-over movie soon.

After his Ayudha Ezhuthu, the director has not commenced any project.

Manirathinam who is reportedly upset over the recent controversies involving his wife Suhasini Manirathnam, has planned to commence his cross-over film soon.

Reports have it Abhishek Bachchan of Yuva fame might play the hero in the movie.

Manirathinam's Ayudha Ezhuthu made as Yuva in Hindi did not do well at the box office but won him great admiration.

According to reports in Bollywood, Abhishek has given up the chance to act in Sholay remake to be part of Manirathinam's movie.

All the best, Abhishek.

From: lancelot on Thu Dec 1 15:15:34 2005.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Mani makes his move
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, December 01, 2005]

The buzz in Kollywood is that director Manirathinam might do a cross-over movie soon.

After his Ayudha Ezhuthu, the director has not commenced any project.

Manirathinam who is reportedly upset over the recent controversies involving his wife Suhasini Manirathnam, has planned to commence his cross-over film soon.

Reports have it Abhishek Bachchan of Yuva fame might play the hero in the movie.

Manirathinam's Ayudha Ezhuthu made as Yuva in Hindi did not do well at the box office but won him great admiration.

According to reports in Bollywood, Abhishek has given up the chance to act in Sholay remake to be part of Manirathinam's movie.

All the best, Abhishek.

can anyone tell me wat this controversy is
hehe

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Dec 4 14:55:50 2005.

Maniratnam�s new venture
December 03, 2005
Behindwoods.com

The ace director Mani Ratnam is all set for his new project which is going to be another bilingual version as his last movie Ayudha Eluthu which was being directed in Hindi and Tamil. But this new project is going to be a Hollywood film and the hero for the movie is Abishek Bachan,the proud son of Amitabh Bachaan. Already, the duo has worked together for the movie Yuva, the Hindi version of Ayudha Eluthu. The selection for the cast and crew members for the movie is scheduled.
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Dec 14 17:58:10 2005.

Thursday December 8, 10:00 PM

Saif Ali refuses Manirathnam, Ramgopal Varma offer

Manirathnam was planning to make a Hindi-English bilingual film. There are rumors that he had approached Saif to play the lead role. Saif refused. Ramgopal Varma, who is busily involved with his dream project, the remake of 'Sholay', had approached Saif to play the role that Dharmendra originally played in the film. Saif refused again!

Saif says that he had to refuse both these offers because his callsheets weren't available. Manirathnam's dates were clashing with director Siddharth Anand's new film. He was the one who made 'Salaam Namaste' with Saif and Preity Zinta in the lead. And, Saif had to refuse Ramgopal Varma's offer because he was working in the film adaptation of 'Othello'.

They call it the side effects of winning the national award.
From: njv on Wed Dec 14 23:19:18 2005.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

They call it the side effects of winning the national award.

I wouldnt agree. Saif is trying to stick to his winning formula. Both Mani and RGV didnt give any hit in last 4 years and it is safe to avoid them. I dont think Mani can give any more hit. He is another KB/BR and RGV becamse one of them a decade ago.
From: Kollywoodfan on Wed Dec 14 23:23:06 2005.

I think Mani Ratnam is trying too hard to live up to that great, masterpiece direction that it's actually working against him...

Like in AE, powerful, realistic story, no doubt...but where's the entertainment...just because he is said to be in a league of his own, he doesn't need to work according to the typecast and avoid any sort of entertainment...

When he took ALai Payuthey with bright colors and a colorful theme, that wasn't too mature, it was loved and accepted by all ages...

This couldn't be said about AE...This is just my take on things..
From: svaisn on Wed Dec 14 23:23:46 2005.

No way Njv....

Manirathnam has potential to give more hits...
From: Justice on Wed Dec 14 23:50:29 2005.

I don't think Mani can, he's now dull

svaisn wrote:

No way Njv....

Manirathnam has potential to give more hits...

From: Alien on Wed Dec 14 23:55:16 2005.

njv wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

They call it the side effects of winning the national award.

I wouldnt agree. Saif is trying to stick to his winning formula. Both Mani and RGV didnt give any hit in last 4 years and it is safe to avoid them. I dont think Mani can give any more hit. He is another KB/BR and RGV becamse one of them a decade ago.

I agree with u ! Its indeed a wise decision by Saif ! He could concentrate on those kinda films later in his career, when he is more matured ! Now he needs hits & success ! So better to avoid Mani

From: Justice on Sun Jan 1 22:49:24 2006.

Maniratnam just copies
From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 1 23:24:02 2006.

I heard from a friend of a foreign Mexican movie about three people who meet in an accident...it sounded so similar to AE...

then i remembered (not too sure) reading in the hub that AE was taken from a foreign movie...

i'd like to see the foreign film and compare it to AE...

From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:28:56 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

I heard from a friend of a foreign Mexican movie about three people who meet in an accident...it sounded so similar to AE...

then i remembered (not too sure) reading in the hub that AE was taken from a foreign movie...

i'd like to see the foreign film and compare it to AE... Rolling Eyes

amores perros

From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 1 23:33:37 2006.

thanks, nilavu
have you seen it?
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:34:24 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

thanks, nilavu
have you seen it?

NO......GOT THE CD BUT!
From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 1 23:37:15 2006.

it's all good...when you see it, let me know what you think...

i'll watch it later when i can get hold of the movie
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:39:00 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

it's all good...when you see it, let me know what you think...

i'll watch it later when i can get hold of the movie

...one of my friend said its one of the best movies ever made!
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:43:29 2006.

is maniratnam gonna direct a hollywood movie?
From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 1 23:44:08 2006.

oh really?
my friend also said it's a great movie...now, i have to watch it...

have you seen City of Gods? i recently watched it and it's so gruesome, but powerful...

From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:45:19 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

oh really? Surprised

my friend also said it's a great movie...now, i have to watch it... Smile

have you seen City of Gods? i recently watched it and it's so gruesome, but powerful...

heyy.."city of gods" is pudhupetai i guess!

hows the movie?...fits tamil audience?

From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 1 23:54:50 2006.

nilavupriyan wrote:

heyy.."city of gods" is pudhupetai i guess!

hows the movie?...fits tamil audience?

oh! while I was looking at Pudhupetai gallery, I read the blurbs on the side and i thought of 'city of gods'...cause it sounded similar...gang, violence, drugs...etc...

the movie is one of the best i've seen though i didn't enjoy the killing and shooting...it's a reality in Brazil

smart, powerful movie and they had special features after the movie where the crew spoke with some gangs, people in the city about the violence...sad...

Deen mentioned it to me once (I think) and I watched it...
From: nilavupriyan on Sun Jan 1 23:59:06 2006.

so a break for dhanush i guess!

just now watching carlito's way!

as intense as scarface
From: Sinthiya on Mon Jan 2 0:03:42 2006.

i hope so...

never seen carlito's way...
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 0:04:26 2006.

its good!

brian de palma is always good!

al pacino is always best!
From: Sinthiya on Mon Jan 2 0:22:49 2006.

ok...i'll check it out...thanks
From: Justice on Mon Jan 2 0:24:35 2006.
From: Sinthiya on Mon Jan 2 0:32:35 2006.

justice wrote:
From: Nerd on Mon Jan 2 0:35:54 2006.

amores perros is a fantastic movie watched it just recently.. The only thing common b/w this and AE is the accident and how 3 diff characters are affected by it.. the director, alejandro gonzalez's next movie 21 grams is also a decent movie, again 3 different characters
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 0:38:12 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

ok...i'll check it out...thanks

if u wanna check out brian de palma movies...

start from "the untouchables"(with heroic elements)

scarface

carlito's way....

"the untouchables" is so good!

robert deniro,sean connery and kevin costner!

From: Sinthiya on Mon Jan 2 0:45:09 2006.

kasi_sce wrote:

amores perros is a fantastic movie Thumbs Up!

watched it just recently.. The only thing common b/w this and AE is the accident and how 3 diff characters are affected by it.. the director, alejandro gonzalez's next movie 21 grams is also a decent movie, again 3 different characters Smile

kasi, happy new year! i hope to see it soon...
I would like to see 21 grams...i like Sean Penn

I saw Million Dollar Baby...

....Clint Eastwood is awesome!

From: Sinthiya on Mon Jan 2 0:47:07 2006.

nilavupriyan wrote:

Sinthiya wrote:

ok...i'll check it out...thanks

if u wanna check out brian de palma movies...
...
robert deniro,sean connery and kevin costner!

thanks nilavu...will check it out...
Happy New Year to you and best wishes in 2006!
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 0:54:56 2006.

happy new year sinthiya
From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 2 2:10:16 2006.

MR is an overrrated director. He has stagnated in the recent times. His last good work was "Anjali". After that all ordinary movies IMHO.
From: Surya on Mon Jan 2 7:57:51 2006.

U thought KM, and AE were ordinary films for Tamiz in the midst of films like Sivakasi?
From: Avenger on Mon Jan 2 8:10:46 2006.

or Aaru!!!

Surya wrote:

U thought KM, and AE were ordinary films for Tamiz in the midst of films like Sivakasi?
From: Surya on Mon Jan 2 8:15:50 2006.

Of Course! AE with SURYA was a million times better than Aaru! So was KM.

Sorry if u were looking for a fight!! It's 4:32 in the morn, and I'm tired!
From: Scale on Mon Jan 2 9:24:11 2006.

Did he direct any movie after ANJALI? I m confused
From: nilavupriyan on Mon Jan 2 10:03:36 2006.

jaiganes wrote:

MR is an overrrated director. He has stagnated in the recent times. His last good work was "Anjali". After that all ordinary movies IMHO.

do u think

iruvar
roja
thalapathy
bombay are not good works?
From: davinci on Mon Jan 2 10:10:24 2006.

thalapathy, iruvar, roja, bombay, alaipaayuthey, kannathil muttamittal, ayutha ezuthu were all classics.... they were just great........ even thirudaa thirudaa was a great entertainer...
From: m_23_bayarea on Sat Jan 28 10:47:34 2006.

Mani�s film titled `Guru`!

By Moviebuzz | Saturday, 28 January , 2006, 10:09

A few weeks back, Moviebuzz was the first to break the news about Mani Ratnam�s new Hindi film with Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai in the lead.

Last week Mani sir was in Mumbai to give finishing touches to this ambitious project titled Guru. Abhishek and Aishwarya were earlier paired in Kuch Naa Kaho and is now doing J.P Dutta�s Umrao Jaan.

The latest we hear is that Junior Bachchan will have two heroine- Ash and Vidya Balan and the search for the antagonist is on, and John Abraham seems to be the front runner. A.R.Rahman will be the music director with Gulzar�s lyrics. Rajeev Menon will be the cameraman and he is teaming up with Mani sir after 10 long years after Bombay.

Anurag Kashyap will helm the Hindi dialogues and the film is set in Mumbai. Mani sir hopes to prove his detractors wrong that he has not been able to taste commercial success in Hindi so far. Guru will start rolling by March.
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Jan 31 15:17:19 2006.

Manirathnam does it
IndiaGlitz [Tuesday, January 31, 2006]

Shankar tried to cast former Miss World and the happening Bollywood actress Aishwarya Rai to act opposite Rajinikanth for his 'Sivaji'. The actress could not take up the the offer since she was busy with her projects in Hollywood and Bollywood. However director Manirathinam has got her nod to play in his next movie titled Guru which would be made in Hindi.

Interestingly, Abhishek Bachchan, son of Big B is playing the hero. He had acted in Yuva, the Hindi version of Ayudha Ezhuthu.

Abhishek and Aishwarya were earlier paired in Kuch Naa Kaho and rumors are doing the rounds in Bollywood that both have developed an affair between them.

As usual, Manirathinam will have A R Rehman scoring the music for the movie, Rajeev menon, who worked as cinematographer in his Bombay, almost a decade ago is back to work with him now. He will crank the camera for Guru.

Buzz is that quite typical to Dil Se, which was dubbed in Tamil and released as Uyire, Guru will have a Tamil release too. Expected for a release this year-end is Guru.
___________________________________________

Hey Ash !! Even though you seem to have rejected my Thalaivar's Sivaji, I still love you, and wish you great luck in Mani's movie ....
From: svaisn on Tue Jan 31 17:19:47 2006.

Mani ratnam is alwayts a step ahead of all other directors
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 1 4:23:14 2006.

To score a brownie point...

Quote:

Mani ratnam is alwayts a step ahead of all other directors

yeah he is walking towards a ditch and he is one step ahead!!!

Look, at a time when everyone in mainstream was reinterpreting mediocrity in their own way , Mani with a huge video collection of english movies, reinterpreted mediocrity in his stylish way. And that is it. He did not innovate, he didn't bother to even imagine his own story(he is incapable of that?), his own screenplay (Mounaragam was a rearranging of Nenjathai killadhae and How much of Godfather's screenplay influenced Nayagan is anybody's guess, Come to movies like Roja inspired by Sathyavan savithiri story from hindu mythology etc.,), his own dialogues(Nayagan dialogues by Balakumaran and for many others Sujatha was the dialogue writer). So what he brings to the table is an old readers digest story or an english movie (now mexican) DVD plus some stylishness. Apart from that every thing is contributed by someone else and he simply chooses how much or little of it he wants and thats it. This is very basic task of a director. His only plus is that he has little ego, which means all the big talented guys collaborate more willingly with him and of course he is an MBA (repeat MBA like manobala in that vivek comedy sequence) which means that he plans well usually. When you put someone like Mahendran, Balachander, Balu Mahendra ,S.Balachander, Devaraj Mohan etc., on the other side and see their talent and their cinematic abilities, he pales .
Surya wrote:

Quote:

AE with SURYA was a million times better than Aaru!

Thats bcoz of the talent difference between working with ppl from Bollywood and Kollywood. Just goes on to show that he cannot create the same magic if the collaborators are just average.
For Kannathil muthamittaal, few redeeming points were ARR, Prakash Raj and Simran in that order. That movie was so cliched (all MR's sensitivity cliches, his own brand of sentimental cho chos).
The last scene, where mothers of the kid meet, there was not even 10% anticipation aroused. It was so flat. Even an Ahathiyan with a lesser theme (stupid lovers who love without seeing each other) successfully created a palpable tension in the climax. There was the moment for a director to do anything to the audience!! and he let it go ..... That was when I decided MR has lost of whatever little hold he had on the medium and his successive movies convinced me completely. Sorry for a lengthy fiery post. I was once a fan of MR's ability to capture an urban theme and present it with style. Now I am sincerely hoping that he would get back his hold and sincerely get back to movies on small things which he is so skilled in retelling.
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Feb 1 5:48:02 2006.

jaiganesh...regarding kannathil muthamittaal...u r right!

so artificial.....not touchy!
From: Kamalan on Wed Feb 1 5:53:57 2006.

manirathnam is a great director... so nilavu dont comment badly about him..... kannathil muttamittal is one of the best movies ever made in any language........
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Feb 1 6:04:47 2006.

kannathil muthamittaal is artificial....the dialogues spoke by the little girl is too artificial...did any maniratnam movie make u cry or laugh heartily?
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Feb 1 6:07:05 2006.

but i liked aayutha ezhuthu...nice movie!

nayagan,iruvar,mouna raagam were too good!

kannathil muthamittal is the movie which dint move the people!
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 1 6:36:13 2006.

nilavupriyan wrote:

but i liked aayutha ezhuthu...nice movie!

nayagan,iruvar,mouna raagam were too good!

kannathil muthamittal is the movie which dint move the people!

Precisely! What is mouna ragam? the story is about reconciliation of a young woman to her marital status. If MR can make you engrossed in that, then you must have walked into Kannathil Muthamittaal with mother-daughter sentiment(with 2 mothers!!!) and added to that plight of Srilankan refugees with great expectations!! However by the time the last scene came, you were already thinking of where you had parked your cycle and the fastest route back to home. Quite a change from Anjali where "Endhuru Anjali Endhuru" cry made you feeling , hoping against hope that Anjali might wake up any time!!. Now this is where MR has diminished in. Call it cheap senti or what, still if this kinda climax is not in a mother daughter senti movie, where else I can expect from. Once people walked into theatres where Pasamalar well expecting to come out sobbing! there is some amount of emotional and mental cleansing associated with such heavy movies and the makers need not be ashamed of that.
Same way Thiruda Thiruda would have succeeded if one of those thirudas had been killed or better still if Heera's irritating character had been bumped off!! Mani missed the bus there too! Not being sarcastic, but Mani needs a lesson or two from the serial directors who are adept at killing characters for maximum tear appeal!!!(Metti Oli!!??)
From: nilavupriyan on Wed Feb 1 8:29:26 2006.

metti oli... come on....

mani is not that bad!

he is the most enjoyable in love scenes..

mouna ragam,bombay,nayagan,aayutha ezhuthu,agni natchathiram,roja and thalapathy(very rare film where we can enjoy the love sequance of the superstar....but it couldnt beat johny )

and he is the most courageous director!...
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Feb 3 13:07:14 2006.

Mani Ratnam directs Netru, Inru, Naalai
- 03.02.2006
Cinesouth.com

The Chennai folks are very lucky because they can see Mani Ratnam�s handiwork in a special function.

Other film personalities who are working with Mani Ratnam for �Netru, Inru, Nalai� in aid of the organization Banyan, are Vasanth, Rajiv Menon, art director Sabu Cyril and A R Rehman.

This function was supposed to have taken place last year but due to the heavy rains and other factors, the program got cancelled. While trying out novel angles of the camera is Rajiv Menon�s responsibility, Sabu Cyril is in charge of the stage d�cor while Mani Ratnam and Vasanth are in charge of the overall coordination.

�Netru, Inru, Naalai� starts at 6.30pm on February 5th at JPR Engineering College, in Sholinganallur. Special buses have been arranged from 3.30pm onwards from Thiruvanmiyur to the venue. After the program, the buses will go to main city centres like T Nagar and Parrys etc. so people need not worry about getting home late.

It is important to note that last year�s entry tickets are definitely not valid for this function. It is also requested that everybody attending the function be seated by 6pm. Kamal, Simran, Madhavan, Simbu, Pooja and half of Kollywood are participating in the program, so it will be a good idea to give television a break and attend this function instead and star gaze in person.

It will be not only useful, it is important for Banyan!

From: Ramakrishna on Fri Feb 3 13:11:58 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Mani Ratnam directs Netru, Inru, Naalai
- 03.02.2006
Cinesouth.com

The Chennai folks are very lucky because they can see Mani Ratnam�s handiwork in a special function.

Other film personalities who are working with Mani Ratnam for �Netru, Inru, Nalai� in aid of the organization Banyan, are Vasanth, Rajiv Menon, art director Sabu Cyril and A R Rehman.

This function was supposed to have taken place last year but due to the heavy rains and other factors, the program got cancelled. While trying out novel angles of the camera is Rajiv Menon�s responsibility, Sabu Cyril is in charge of the stage d�cor while Mani Ratnam and Vasanth are in charge of the overall coordination.

�Netru, Inru, Naalai� starts at 6.30pm on February 5th at JPR Engineering College, in Sholinganallur. Special buses have been arranged from 3.30pm onwards from Thiruvanmiyur to the venue. After the program, the buses will go to main city centres like T Nagar and Parrys etc. so people need not worry about getting home late.

It is important to note that last year�s entry tickets are definitely not valid for this function. It is also requested that everybody attending the function be seated by 6pm. Kamal, Simran, Madhavan, Simbu, Pooja and half of Kollywood are participating in the program, so it will be a good idea to give television a break and attend this function instead and star gaze in person.

It will be not only useful, it is important for Banyan!

When will it come on TV

From: terminator on Sat Feb 4 1:30:17 2006.

jaiganes wrote:

Look, at a time when everyone in mainstream was reinterpreting mediocrity in their own way , Mani with a huge video collection of english movies, reinterpreted mediocrity in his stylish way. And that is it. He did not innovate, he didn't bother to even imagine his own story(he is incapable of that?), his own screenplay (Mounaragam was a rearranging of Nenjathai killadhae and How much of Godfather's screenplay influenced Nayagan is anybody's guess, Come to movies like Roja inspired by Sathyavan savithiri story from hindu mythology etc.,), his own dialogues(Nayagan dialogues by Balakumaran and for many others Sujatha was the dialogue writer). So what he brings to the table is an old readers digest story or an english movie (now mexican) DVD plus some stylishness. Apart from that every thing is contributed by someone else and he simply chooses how much or little of it he wants and thats it. This is very basic task of a director. His only plus is that he has little ego, which means all the big talented guys collaborate more willingly with him and of course he is an MBA (repeat MBA like manobala in that vivek comedy sequence) which means that he plans well usually. When you put someone like Mahendran, Balachander, Balu Mahendra ,S.Balachander, Devaraj Mohan etc., on the other side and see their talent and their cinematic abilities, he pales .

See this thread for movies isnpired from DVDs, http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=2133

Yaaru thaan copy adikkala.

MR's directions are class.

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:26:01 2006.

Maniratnam and his latest mysteries.

January 31, 2006
Behindwoods.com

Maniratnam has created a unique genre in cinema with his exceptional touch. This sensitive director has carved a niche for himself and put Indian cinema in an international panorama. His movies appeal to wide segments of the audience due to the treatment of the plot, crisp dialogues, and great music set in exotic locales.

Whenever Maniratnam starts a venture, entire Kollywood would crane up to watch his moves and artistes would eagerly await his call. This time round, there is more mystery to his project. Mani was said to be in discussion with Universal pictures for an UK based English movie, which is to be shot in Los Angeles and our Chennai. Sources said that the film would hit the floors by April. Don�t rush out or start SMSing your friend there�s lot more for you to know. The versatile director was then rumored to come up with another mega project, called Aalayam. The story it seems is set in India, Pakistan, and China. Who would be the hero, was the million dollar question.

Then comes the announcement about a movie with Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai in the lead. Although formal confirmation is yet to be made by the director or the stars, reports from media contemplate that the movie would be based on a romantic story. The latest information being that Junior Bachchan would have two leading ladies - Ash and Vidya Balan, while the search for the adversary is on. It is speculated that the hunky John Abraham, the hottest model would play the bad guy. While the music is tuned by A.R.Rahman with Gulzar�s lyrics, Rajeev Menon will be teaming up with Mani after Bombay (almost 10 years). Dialogues are said to be penned by Anurag Kashyap and the film will be shot in Mumbai. Guru is the title given as of now. Aishwarya Rai, with her dazzling green eyes who started her career under the tutelage of Mani, has been declining offers of late presumably to work in his upcoming film. Ditto with Bachan Jr., who refused Ram Gopal Varma�s Sholay with the hopes of recreating the Yuva magic.
From: Ramakrishna on Sun Feb 5 14:32:20 2006.

Has mani forgotten Tamil?
From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:37:00 2006.

Ramakrishna wrote:

Has mani forgotten Tamil?

Well, what else can we expect from him, when a great movie like AE fails in TN ??? Not sure abt you, but I absolutely loved that movie ...
From: ajithfederer on Sun Feb 5 14:38:10 2006.

From: Ramakrishna on Sun Feb 5 14:38:18 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Ramakrishna wrote:

Has mani forgotten Tamil?

Well, what else can we expect from him, when a great movie like AE fails in TN ??? Not sure abt you, but I absolutely loved that movie ...

Even i liked that movie.But the movie did more badly in Hindi i guess

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:39:59 2006.

Ramakrishna wrote:

Even i liked that movie.But the movie did more badly in Hindi i guess

Nope !!! Atleast in the US, YUVA was a hit ... In fact I took two sets of my American friends to the movie ... They all loved it .... (With subtitles though) ....
From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:41:19 2006.

ajithfederer wrote:

yeah u r right bayarea

and movies like sivakasi thirupachi are running........

No comments abt your second statement AF !!!
From: Ramakrishna on Sun Feb 5 14:42:11 2006.

But in India AE did better than Yuva.I had to argue with my hindi friends for that movie.At that time Main hoon naa released and they were too keen on that
From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:43:13 2006.

Ramakrishna wrote:

But in India AE did better than Yuva.I had to argue with my hindi friends for that movie.At that time Main hoon naa released and they were too keen on that

EXACTLY !!! Mani did a mistake with the release dates .... He released YUVA when Main Hoon Na was rocking, and AE when GHILLI was rockin .... How stupid of him !!
From: ajithfederer on Sun Feb 5 14:46:11 2006.

In yuva i feel that maniratnam made a grave mistake of giving the student leader role to ajay devgan and the rowdy role to abhisheik bachan.......ajay is old and he didnt fit the role at all.........

ahisheik bachan should have been handed the role of student leader and ajay the rowdy role .......something he does with ease

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Feb 5 14:48:09 2006.

ajithfederer wrote:

In yuva i feel that maniratnam made a grave mistake of giving the student leader role to ajay devgan and the rowdy role to abhisheik bachan.......ajay is old and he didnt fit the role at all.........

ahisheik bachan should have been handed the role of student leader and ajay the rowdy role .......something he does with ease

ABSOLUTELY AF !!! I hated Ajay in that role ... The character needed to have a kind of fire in it ... And Surya portrayed it so well, unlike Ajay ... BTW, did you know that Hrithik was signed to do that role first, and backed off cos of Laksh ..

From: Arthas on Sun Feb 5 14:49:32 2006.

Ayudha Ezhuthu was released 1.5 months after Ghilli.But the strange fact is it was replaced by GHilli in many screens jus after 15 days >

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Ramakrishna wrote:

But in India AE did better than Yuva.I had to argue with my hindi friends for that movie.At that time Main hoon naa released and they were too keen on that

EXACTLY !!! Mani did a mistake with the release dates .... He released YUVA when Main Hoon Na was rocking, and AE when GHILLI was rockin .... How stupid of him !! Crying or Very sad

From: Arthas on Sun Feb 5 14:58:29 2006.

Main Hoon Na was the biggest Indian hit of 2004 and Ghilli the 3rd biggest( Clap

).2 bein Dhoom

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Ramakrishna wrote:

But in India AE did better than Yuva.I had to argue with my hindi friends for that movie.At that time Main hoon naa released and they were too keen on that

EXACTLY !!! Mani did a mistake with the release dates .... He released YUVA when Main Hoon Na was rocking, and AE when GHILLI was rockin .... How stupid of him !! Crying or Very sad

From: ajithfederer on Sun Feb 5 15:34:29 2006.

IS Main Hoon NA THE FILM IN WHICH SOME TERRORIST WALKS INTO A CONFERENCE OF TOP MILITARY COMMANDERS AND TELLS THE CHIEF THAT HE WILL KIDNAP HER DAUGHTER AND LATER WALKS AWAY COOLLY

From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Feb 9 13:10:44 2006.

ajithfederer wrote:

IS Main Hoon NA THE FILM IN WHICH SOME TERRORIST WALKS INTO A CONFERENCE OF TOP MILITARY COMMANDERS AND TELLS THE CHIEF THAT HE WILL KIDNAP HER DAUGHTER AND LATER WALKS AWAY COOLLY

You bet !!!

BTW AF machi .... Welcome to the US .... Have fun !!

From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Feb 9 13:12:24 2006.

Maniratnam�s Mahabaratha
February 09, 2006

Maniratnam has not made any announcement for new projects since the setback in Aytha Ezuthu. He also suffered some health problems. But the reclusive director is back with a story based on the magnum opus, Mahabaratha. Although the theme is familiar, with several screen versions already available, one can be sure that Mani would bring an element of surprise and finesse to the treatment. Another interesting scenario is that there are two more directors who have planned a film based on the epic to be made almost simultaneously.

Noted Bengali director Rituparno Ghosh, whose Raincoat, did not enthuse mainstream Hindi audience and Rajkumar Santoshi, who let us all down in Family have sought Mahabaratha to redeem their reputation. This is not however the first time that two or more Bollywood directors have announced projects based on the same theme. A couple of years ago, we had as much as three versions of the biography of the great martyr, Bhagat Singh.
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Feb 17 13:21:04 2006.

Producer Manirathnam is busy now
February 17, 2006

Manirathnam�s Madras Talkies office wears a busy looks on Sundays and Holidays. If you want to meet Mani sir, you can meet on these days, when he takes time off his Bollywood projects to listen to stories that young budding and wannabe director tell. Like Cheran, Mani is scouting for young talents and good stories. Though story-tellers flock in dozens, not all are optimistic. And Mani is not a good paymaster.

From: r_o_j_a on Sat Feb 18 12:59:50 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

My personal opinion is that Mani Ratnam has lost it.His films no longer have the substance it once had.

(Dont we have a somewhat similer thread ..I mean for director bashing Very Happy

??)

but his last film yuva (tamil version) was quite good!... unfortunately majority of the audiences didn't seem 2 enjoy the film.

From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Feb 18 13:11:38 2006.

Maniratnam is a good director.

Can ppl say WE NEVER HAD REVOLUTIONARY director before him?

hE IS ONE of the good directors.

Only difference he created was "dark picturisation or camera work "

From: Ramakrishna on Sat Feb 18 13:43:50 2006.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

Maniratnam is a good director.

Can ppl say WE NEVER HAD REVOLUTIONARY director before him?

hE IS ONE of the good directors.

Only difference he created was "dark picturisation or camera work Huh?!

Also kusu kusu dialogues.

From: Shakthiprabha. on Sat Feb 18 13:49:01 2006.

oh u bet.

Brilliant in using SIMPLE SENTENCES than complex sentences.

'and' = conjunction has no work.

"ava vara matta.
munnadiyE soliyachu.
ellamE planned.
emathitaanga"

This could have been a cute sweet single sentence. I suppose it has greater effect to split up OR GIVE pauses.

I should say he is admirable in GIVING GOOD EFFECTS.

******

shankar's MUDHALVAn had a similar 'single word' powerful dialgoue

Arjun: vazhakkama oozhal kutram vantha enna seyvaanga
Manivannan: Nyayapadi partha... arrest pannanam

Arjun: 'PANNIDUNGA'

Very powerful. Basically its a trend of western movies to be CRISP and short with dialogues. Maniratnam is one of the very few directors to bring it in indian movies.

From: terminator on Sat Feb 18 15:38:40 2006.

r_o_j_a wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

My personal opinion is that Mani Ratnam has lost it.His films no longer have the substance it once had.

(Dont we have a somewhat similer thread ..I mean for director bashing Very Happy

??)

but his last film yuva (tamil version) was quite good!... unfortunately majority of the audiences didn't seem 2 enjoy the film.

I enjoyed it very much. I had seen the movie atleast 5 times in theater.

From: Fire on Sat Feb 18 15:46:09 2006.

yes ayitha ezuthu is just superb.........
From: Sinthiya on Wed Mar 8 15:05:37 2006.

i was going to put this in the new thread about punch dialogues, then decided to post in here as this is more relevant....as i don't remember the dialogues...

i loved the ending in Kannathil Muthamittal where the daughter asks her mom why she abandoned her and asks her come with her...so sad....i was in tears watching that....
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Mar 14 14:08:39 2006.

Mallika Sherawat in Mani Ratnam�s Guru
March 14, 2006

If Mallika Sherawat, the Bombay bombshell can sign up a Jackie Chan film, why not a Mani Ratnam flick? Don�t worry, she is booked for the auteur's forthcoming flick Guru. The movie also features Abishek Bachhan and Aishwarya Rai. Mallika plays a guest but substantial role and the girl, so characteristic of her, is all giggles. Another well-know name that features in the cast is Mithun Chakraborthy.

He was to work with Mani long time back in the Tamil film Anandam but then, he couldn�t make it as he refused to part with his then long hair. Now an older Mithun has come back to join Mani�s team. Earlier they had roped in Vivek too but it is now reported that this one time Ash beau has opted out. Doesn�t want to be seen with Abishek.
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This movie definitely looks promising .... I was shocked when YUVA/AE flopped .... Cos I thought it was such an awesome movie .... But stuff happens, and the movie flopped .... I really hope this movie makes it BIG !!!
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Mar 15 13:22:18 2006.

Mallika in Manirathinam's film
IndiaGlitz [Wednesday, March 15, 2006]

The glamour doll of Bollywood Mallika Sherawat, who acted along with Jackie Chan in The Myth, may act in Manirathinam's next film Guru.

The movie would feature Abhishek Bachchan in the lead role.

A busy actress, Mallika Sherawat was impressed with the storyline when Manirathinam narrated the story to her and immediately decided to be part of the movie.

It may be recalled that the like of Priety Zinta, Kareena Kapoor, Esha Deol, Manisha Koirala and Rani Mukherjee were other prominent Bollywood actresses who have acted in Manirathinam's direction.

From: njv on Wed Mar 15 15:46:59 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

This movie definitely looks promising .... I was shocked when YUVA/AE flopped .... Cos I thought it was such an awesome movie .... But stuff happens, and the movie flopped .... I really hope this movie makes it BIG !!! Very Happy

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YUVA/AE was good first half. Second half the movie started getting dragging since the time sidh/trisha romance started. Also the climax (surya making the revolution etc) is not something tamil movie lovers accepted. Tamil people are very practical and they know that this kinda revolution will never happen and never accept this

The climax plays a very important role. Best example is Chandramukhi. Inspite of all the fun ppl made during the movie (whole theatre was lauging in many places for enna savaranan) the whole theatre was quite for the last half hour - which is what people would express when they come out of theatre, which is what determines the box office success. So as long as we have a good climax, movie would run well.

From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Mar 15 18:26:20 2006.

njv wrote:

Very True !!! We are very practical indeed ... And I agree with you on the climax stuff ...

From: m_23_bayarea on Sun Mar 19 16:24:10 2006.

I just watched Kannathil Muthamittal on DVD .... Man, what a movie !! Sheer class ... Excellent subject abt the Tamil refugees and how some of them become extreme, beautiful connection between the baby born to one of the refugees and how she enters the life of a Tamil writer, a very romantic interlude of that Tamil writer with a cute gurl, and how they adapt that baby, excellent portrayal of a small happy family (reminded of my growing up as a kid), the transition that happens in the kid's attitude once she realizes her birth-secret, the agony and disconnection she feels with Simran (her non-real mom), and how Maddy tries to help her out by takin her to her birth-mom, etc etc ... Amazing script !! Mani has proven time and over again that he's a revolution ...

Abt the movie itself, I guess this was not a hit at the BO right ... But then, Mani always combines contemporary cinema with the mainstream commercial version ... Gurunaathar ARR's music as always was awesome ... Above all, the performances of Maddy, Simran, and that kid were mind-blowing .....

I wasn't too much into Tamil movies for abt 2-3 years ... And I guess this movie came exactly at that time ... So if you guys could share a little bit about your thoughts on this movie, and how well or bad it did in India, that'd be awesome !! Thanks ..
From: Raikkonen on Tue Mar 21 12:46:49 2006.

Manirathnam kitte enakku pudjia ore padam, avar passport picture than.
Athan konjam clear ah irukkum

From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:18:57 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

I wasn't too much into Tamil movies for abt 2-3 years ... And I guess this movie came exactly at that time ... So if you guys could share a little bit about your thoughts on this movie, and how well or bad it did in India, that'd be awesome !! Thanks .. Very Happy

Bay...Kannathil Muthamittal is one of my all-time favourite movie....I enjoyed the movie for many reasons (Madhavan, story, songs...Simran and the little girl's performance....)... and even the biological mother's performance (what's her name???)

I can watch it many times and the ending is what touches me the most....when the little girl asks her real mom to come with her and she doesn't....

...was well done...!

From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:21:45 2006.

thats Nandhitha Dass
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:23:55 2006.

great wrote:

thats Nandhitha Dass

ok..thanks...

i recently saw a movie called Vishwa Thulasi....starring Mamooty and her....she's a very good actress...good movie...
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:26:41 2006.

she is a class actress .... done many movies 1947 earth even water was supposed to be done by her ... not too sure if she had done it

From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:26:42 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

great wrote:

thats Nandhitha Dass Very Happy

ok..thanks...

i recently saw a movie called Vishwa Thulasi....starring Mamooty and her....she's a very good actress...good movie... Smile

what abt the other movies of Nandita Das.

From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:27:55 2006.

azhagi in tamil
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:28:42 2006.

great wrote:

azhagi in tamil

that is it?
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:30:28 2006.

great wrote:

azhagi in tamil

is this the movie with Parthiban?

i remember a movie with Parthiban and her.... , if i'm not mistaken....
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:31:07 2006.

to list few ...AKS * AB , Rockford * Nagesh kuknoor, pitaah *sanju dada mahesh manjrekar movie,1947 Earth *Khan ,Fire
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:31:57 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

great wrote:

azhagi in tamil

is this the movie with Parthiban?

i remember a movie with Parthiban and her.... , if i'm not mistaken....

you are correct, Thangar bachan first movie
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:32:11 2006.

great wrote:

to list few ...AKS * AB , Rockford * Nagesh kuknoor, pitaah *sanju dada mahesh manjrekar movie

still the important ones are missing
From: ssanjinika on Tue Mar 21 13:33:51 2006.

seri seri TM..neenga enga varinga-nnu puriyuthu vittunga
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:34:10 2006.

great wrote:

you are correct, Thangar bachan first movie

hmm...it was a nice movie...the songs too...

Thirumaran....you know the name...why don't you say it?
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:35:40 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

great wrote:

you are correct, Thangar bachan first movie

hmm...it was a nice movie...the songs too...

Thirumaran....you know the name...why don't you say it?

enakku paaka mattum thaan theriyum. paesa theriyaathu
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:37:39 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

to list few ...AKS * AB , Rockford * Nagesh kuknoor, pitaah *sanju dada mahesh manjrekar movie

still the important ones are missing

now check out i have edited, i have included that movie
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:37:54 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

enakku paaka mattum thaan theriyum. paesa theriyaathu

....onnum puriyala....vitutunga....
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:38:40 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

Thirumaran wrote:

enakku paaka mattum thaan theriyum. paesa theriyaathu

....onnum puriyala....vitutunga....
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:38:52 2006.

great wrote:

now check out i have edited, i have included that movie
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:39:37 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

Thirumaran wrote:

enakku paaka mattum thaan theriyum. paesa theriyaathu

....onnum puriyala....vitutunga....

sari sari, poazhachi poanga ..
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:40:49 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

Thirumaran wrote:

enakku paaka mattum thaan theriyum. paesa theriyaathu

....onnum puriyala....vitutunga....

athu onnum puriyala illa, onnum theriyala
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:41:18 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

now check out i have edited, i have included that movie
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:41:25 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

sari sari, poazhachi poanga ..

....let's end the digression here....
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:42:17 2006.

sinthiya
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Mar 21 13:42:21 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

Thirumaran wrote:

sari sari, poazhachi poanga ..

....let's end the digression here....

Sinthu, Good one !! Thanks for your feedback abt KM movie ...
From: Thirumaran on Tue Mar 21 13:44:15 2006.

great wrote:

sinthiya
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Mar 21 13:45:29 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

sinthiya

Semma kovam pola !!! Anyways, have to get back to my study ... See ya'all later guys ....
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:45:56 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

sinthiya

thiru,
From: Sinthiya on Tue Mar 21 13:46:36 2006.

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

sinthiya

.....

Bay...good luck!
From: great on Tue Mar 21 13:46:39 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Thirumaran wrote:

great wrote:

sinthiya

Semma kovam pola !!! Anyways, have to get back to my study ... See ya'all later guys ....

if you have any doubts ask me, dont hesitate
From: Scale on Wed Mar 22 1:10:41 2006.

Maniratnam padam paarkara feeling irukke.. appapppa. endrume sodai pogathu.

KM: sattena nanaindhadhu nenjam sakkarai aanadhu unnal, inbam inbam voru thunbam! thunbam thunbam perinbam. Anjali paartheengala
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Mar 23 12:15:23 2006.

Is Vishnu the new Mani Ratnam?

By Moviebuzz | Thursday, 23 March , 2006, 12:32

Is Vishnuvardhan the new Mani Ratnam of Tamil cinema? The audience, critics, stars and Tamil film trade think that the young director like Mani Ratnam during the 80�s and 90�s has opened a market for a new genre of films with Arindhum Ariyamalum and now Pattiyal.

Pattiyal (130 prints) has opened in cities along with B and C stations and collections show that the audience are ready to embrace something new that is within the commercial format (gloss and songs). In a superstar driven industry, Vishnu has proved that money can be made at the box-office without big names or stars. He has also shown that a film with sensibility, story and presentation can reach a wider audience.

The popular rule in Tamil cinema is never to let the protagonist die, but in Pattiyal both the heroes with negative shades are brutally killed in the end. Like Mani Ratnam, Vishnu has not made any drastic change in the format of the film which has its own adequate dosage of songs, dance, fights and human emotions.

If Mani had A.R.Rahman, Vishnu has the backing of Yuvan Shankar Raja the hot-shot composer who is the favourite of today�s generation next. The idea is that both Mani and Vishnu are making films with earthy characters and reach out to a larger audience without actors being hams or the film being over the top.

Vishnu offers the audience a brand new formula- movies that are crisp and sleek like Pattiyal (running time: 2 hours 5 minutes), no separate comedy track, built in item number by lead stars (Namba Kattile�) and a lot of care given to song picturisation.

Pattiyal may or may not be a super hit, but it certainly has hit us with something new.
_____________________________________________________

All I can say is that Tamil Cinema is booming with new talents !!!
From: Sinthiya on Thu Mar 23 13:23:07 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Is Vishnu the new Mani Ratnam?

By Moviebuzz | Thursday, 23 March , 2006, 12:32

very cool...
i'm interested in seeing 'Pattiyal' even more now....
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue Mar 28 1:29:27 2006.

Mani starts shoot!

By Moviebuzz | Tuesday, 28 March , 2006, 10:49

Mani Ratnam has started the shoot of his new Hindi film Guru quietly with hardly any publicity at Chennai�s Binny Mill near Perambur. Scenes featuring Abhishek Bachchan are being canned and nobody is allowed inside the sets.

It is nearly two years since Mani�s bilingual Yuva and Ayutha Ezhuthu released and we understand that for health reasons he is trying to keep the shoot in Chennai as much as possible.

The others in the cast like Aishwarya Rai may join the shoot only in Mumbai location in April. A.R.Rahman has already delivered two songs for the film.
From: Raikkonen on Tue Mar 28 1:30:49 2006.

Vishnu might be good mani rangeku compare panratu
Chaala Overuuuuu
From: m_23_bayarea on Fri Mar 31 20:51:54 2006.

As far as I know, this song from BOMBAY did not become that popular as much as the other songs from the movie did ... But somehow, this is my favorite song from that movie ... I'm not sure if you guys feel this way, but I always find this song very ENCOURAGING for some reason ... Especially the highlited lines just lift me up totally when I'm stressed .... I love this song ... Here you go !!!
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Poovukkenna poottu kaatrukkenna roottu gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa
vaanum mannum yaarukku neeyum naanum yaarukku gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa

nee sirichchaa dheevaanaa kaikoduththaa masthaanaa gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa
neeyum naanum onnaanaa rooppu thaeraa masthaanaa gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa

soalaikku enna oru kavalai eppoadhum paravaigal azhuvadhillai
sooriyanil enrum iravu illai eppoadhum sorggaththukkuth thadaiyillai

gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa...gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa

kaanaththaanae kangal kanneer sindha illai
maegangal manvizhundhu kaayangal aanadhillai
kaanaththaanae kangal kanneer sindha illai
maegangal manvizhundhu kaayangal aanadhillai
vaazhaththaanae vaazhkkai veezhvadharku illai
pollaadha jaadhi madham iraivanum sollavillai

(nee sirichchaa)

paadaththaanae nenjam mounam enna enna
aasaikku rekkaikatti kattavizhththu aadavidu
paadaththaanae nenjam mounam enna enna
aasaikku rekkaikatti kattavizhththu aadavidu
vellaththaanae veeram kolvadharku illai
kaiyoadu kaisaerththu vaanaththaiyae thottuvidu

gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa...gullaa gullaa hallaa gullaa

kaanaththaanae kangal kanneer sindha illai
vaazhaththaanae vaazhkkai veezhvadharkku illai
paadaththaanae nenjam mounam enna enna
vellaththaanae veeram kolvadharkku illai

nee sirichchaa dheevaanaa kaikoduththaa masthaanaa
neeyum naanum onnaanaa rooppu thaeraa masthaanaa
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Apr 6 11:25:16 2006.

Aamir Khan in Mani Ratnam's film - shooting in Oct
- 06.04.2006

This is sweet news for film fans that the Vindhya of the south is to join hands with the Himalaya of the north.

Mani Ratnam usually has an interval between films, but this long interval is a bit too much. After "Yuva,' his 'Guru' comes after quite a long gap. The shooting is coming along at a good pace at Chennai's Binny Mills.

The scenes involving Aishwarya Rai in 'Guru' are being shot in Mumbai. Even as 'Guru' is shaping up, Mani Ratnam has procured Aamir's call sheet.

"Mani Ratnam has approached me many times, but only now the time has come for things to fall in place. I have accepted to act in a Hindi film to be directed by him, shooting for which is to start from October." His acting is confirmed but Aamir says the heroine and technicians are not yet confirmed.

The film is to be made only in Hindi as he has no wish to speak or act in Tamil. He has an explanation for this. However, he is to act in the re-make of a Tamil film. "After Mani Ratnam's film is completed, I am to act in the re-make of 'Ghajini' by A R Murugadoss.

'Ghaijini' is more than being a mere commercial film."

This is the first re-make film that Aamir Khan will be acting in.
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Apr 12 11:07:46 2006.

Finally it�s Maddy in Manirathnam�s Guru
April 12, 2006

Madhavan is quite perturbed by the recent rumours that he had refused to act in a Manirathnam film. He said to be associated with a Manirathnam film is a matter of pride and he would give his right arm for a role. Manirathnam is currently in Turkey, shooting for his Hindi film �Guru�. The initial star cast included Abhishek Bachan, Vivek Oberoi, and Aishwarya Rai. However, following the recent spilt with Ms Ash, Vivek Oberoi opted out of the movie. Efforts to replace the gap with Saif Ali Khan or John Abraham (both good friends of Vivek Oberoi) turned futile, leaving Mani in a quandary. Finally, Mani approached Maddy who was quick to sign the film, even without any inkling of the script. Some scenes with Abhishek Bhachan have already been shot in Binny Mills, Chennai.

Madhavan is quite excited to be cast in a Manirathnam film again, and throws no tantrums about playing second hero. In fact, in Rang de Basanti, he wasn�t cast in the lead role, but still people just loved him as a �fighter pilot�. He reminisced his previous experiences in Alaipayuthe and Kannathil Muthamittal, and remarked working in a Manirathnam film is both a treat and a learning experience. Maddy boy is off to London on a fitness regime, where he will shed a few pounds, and then make a beeline for Turkey to resume shooting for his �portions� in �Guru', which is likely to be the end of this month.
_____________________________________________________

Go Maddy !!!! He doesnt have any barriers to acting or his carrier !!!

From: Sinthiya on Thu Apr 13 9:30:15 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Finally it�s Maddy in Manirathnam�s Guru

Madhavan is quite excited to be cast in a Manirathnam film again, and throws no tantrums about playing second hero. In fact, in Rang de Basanti, he wasn�t cast in the lead role, but still people just loved him as a �fighter pilot�. He reminisced his previous experiences in Alaipayuthe and Kannathil Muthamittal, and remarked working in a Manirathnam film is both a treat and a learning experience. Smile

Maddy boy is off to London on a fitness regime, where he will shed a few pounds, and then make a beeline for Turkey to resume shooting for his �portions� in �Guru', which is likely to be the end of this month. _____________________________________________________

......

......
my favourite director and actor together once again...great news.....

From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Apr 26 12:25:09 2006.

Mithun da in Mani�s Guru
April 26, 2006

Mithun Chakraborthy has signed up for Manirathnam�s Guru. The actor will report on the sets on May 15th. He plays a newspaper owner and Mithun is proud of his get-up, a short hair cut and intense looks. He has socialist ideas and tries to get his message across through his newspaper. What exactly is his role vis-�-vis the story, he would not tell. With Manirathnam bring in big cast, the story is sure to be interesting.

By the way, Mithun has already acted in a film called Guru, directed by Umesh Mehra, way back in the 80s. Sri Devi was his pair in the movie.
____________________________________________________

Great actor in a Great Director's movie ... This movie is buildin up well !!!
From: ssanjinika on Wed Apr 26 12:29:11 2006.

Hmm..Maddy and Mintunda in a movie..I might just decide to watch this one inspite of Aishwarya and abishek
From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Apr 26 12:30:25 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

Hmm..Maddy and Mintunda in a movie..I might just decide to watch this one inspite of Aishwarya and abishek

SS, Why du hate Ash so much ?
From: ssanjinika on Wed Apr 26 12:34:30 2006.

Nope bay I dunno know her to hate her personally .Just hate her acting,the way she potrays herself in interviews.She screeches too much when acting(the only movie in which I liked her was Raincoat) and Ive seen a couple of her interviews.She came across as a person who is condesending.She might be a great person..I just dont like to see her on screen

From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Apr 26 12:36:42 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

Nope bay I dunno know her to hate her personally .Just hate her acting,the way she potrays herself in interviews.She screeches too much when acting(the only movie in which I liked her was Raincoat) and Ive seen a couple of her interviews.She came across as a person who is condesending.She might be a great person..I just dont like to see her on screen Razz

That was very honest SS !!!

From: lancelot on Wed Apr 26 12:42:40 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

That was very honest SS !!! Thumbs Up!

i cannot agree with you more....
but she is very beautiful...hehe

hehe

From: ssanjinika on Wed Apr 26 12:45:54 2006.

Nandri Bay
Lancelot

From: great on Wed Apr 26 12:46:49 2006.

lancelot wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

That was very honest SS !!! Thumbs Up!

i cannot agree with you more....
but she is very beautiful...hehe

hehe
Very Happy

I second this

From: great on Wed Apr 26 12:48:14 2006.

lancelot wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

That was very honest SS !!! Thumbs Up!

i cannot agree with you more....
but she is very beautiful...hehe

hehe
Very Happy

I second this

From: ab_123 on Thu Apr 27 9:40:12 2006.

Well said SS (re Ash).

Thx Bay, for the info. I like the Mani/Maddy combo too.
From: Sinthiya on Thu Apr 27 13:44:44 2006.

ab_123 wrote:

I like the Mani/Maddy combo too.

....
From: Thunderbird on Thu Apr 27 13:46:41 2006.

Aish is very beautiful.. why don't girls like her?..

jealousy
From: ajithfederer on Thu Apr 27 13:49:59 2006.

The answer is in your question.......

Thunderbird wrote:

Aish is very beautiful.. why don't girls like her?..

jealousy
From: Sinthiya on Thu Apr 27 13:50:39 2006.

....justice...this time i noticed your fine print....

no comments from me...
i think Rani Mukherjee and Kajol are more beautiful...
From: Ramakrishna on Thu Apr 27 13:50:49 2006.

Thunderbird wrote:

Aish is very beautiful.. why don't girls like her?..

jealousy

They are jealous of her
From: Sinthiya on Thu Apr 27 13:54:35 2006.

well, Madhavan is very cute....why don't guys like him?....

jealousy

....no offence...just joking...
From: ab_123 on Thu Apr 27 13:55:25 2006.

Thunderbird wrote:

Aish is very beautiful.. why don't girls like her?..

jealousy

Agreed she's pretty. But the girls' judgement doesn't get clouded by that one fact. She's a little arrogant, and over-acts for my taste.
From: ab_123 on Thu Apr 27 13:56:16 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

well, Madhavan is very cute....why don't guys like him?....

jealousy

....no offence...just joking...
From: MADDY on Thu Apr 27 22:29:58 2006.

sinthiya,

look at my id......infact i try to dress,speak like Madhavan......my nick name in college was Maddy bcos of this which i have carried it here as well.... ......Maddy is someone very adorable...

maybe, guys are not that jealous u know....
From: Sinthiya on Fri Apr 28 8:48:47 2006.

Maddy (nice id...),

.......he is very cute...
i like the way Madhavan dresses, speaks, smiles and then, his hair.................

i was just joking because of TB's post about girls being jealous of Aish....i don't think guys are jealous, some...yes...

do you also try to smile like him? ........just joking....
From: shalushalu on Fri Apr 28 10:46:21 2006.

Mani Saar is revolutional ...

Mouna Ragam ? Nayagan ? Thalapathi ? Roja ? Bombay ? Iruvar ? Alaipayuthey ? Kannathil Muthamittal ??

Great films of recent times ....

And, yup, he discovered Maddy, didnt he ??
From: Djpak on Fri Apr 28 11:39:33 2006.

MR is doing movie with Rani Mukherjee after Guru right?
From: MADDY on Sat Apr 29 13:06:58 2006.

hey sinthiya, no harm done.....i dont smile like Maddy .....if i cud then i wouldnt be posting here, i wud have acted in mani's/shankar's movies.....
From: Aalavanthan on Sat Apr 29 15:56:10 2006.

Kannatthil Mutthamittaal.. definitely a revolutionary film when the cinefield was covered with Mass films.

Excellent characterisation - Maddy's especially
Marvellous Music with strong lyrics
Voice of MSV in "vidai kodu" song
Kadaisiyaa.. P.S. Keerthana

Three scenes in particular:
When Maddy reveals the truth abt Keerthaana to her
When Keerthana starts rolling on the floor and crying after knowing that her mom hasnt turned up and without knowing the current situation
Ofcourse, climax ... excellent filmography from all the ppl. involved. especially Nandita & Keerthana. Wet eyes guaranteed

No wonder, the movie won some notable National awards.

Its interesting that Mani hasnt still won a National award as director. Ofcourse, Kannathil Mutthamittaal won the best film award but generally, the best film award goes to the producers (Mani in this case).
From: Kollywoodfan on Sat Apr 29 16:23:49 2006.

MADDY wrote:

hey sinthiya, no harm done.....i dont smile like Maddy .....if i cud then i wouldnt be posting here, i wud have acted in mani's/shankar's movies.....

wait wow is that u in ur avatar...u look exactly like Madhavan! Amazing!...well some people would say Maddy's smile is scary because of his teeth!

From: ab_123 on Sat Apr 29 16:55:05 2006.

shalushalu wrote:

Mani Saar is revolutional ...

Mouna Ragam ? Nayagan ? Thalapathi ? Roja ? Bombay ? Iruvar ? Alaipayuthey ? Kannathil Muthamittal ??

Great films of recent times ....

And, yup, he discovered Maddy, didnt he ??

Adding to your list:

Anjali
Idhathathai thirudaadhae/Geentanjali

From: MADDY on Sat Apr 29 23:30:31 2006.

hey KF, if that was me, then i wud have lead the TEAM INDIA .......look closely, that's Rahul Dravid in my avatar.....i wish i was as smart looking as them.....

KM was one of the best movies of Mani ratnam.....no doubt....

From: Thirumaran on Sat Apr 29 23:33:28 2006.

MADDY wrote:

hey KF, if that was me, then i wud have lead the TEAM INDIA Laughing

.......look closely, that's Rahul Dravid in my avatar.....i wish i was as smart looking as them.....

KM was one of the best movies of Mani ratnam.....no doubt....

Ithu enna kodumai MADDY

Kolly..

neenga eppavumae ippadithaana

From: svaisn on Sat Apr 29 23:34:54 2006.

Any idea why MR stopped directing Tamzh movies.....

OR is he is plannoing to direct something soon??
From: Sinthiya on Sat Apr 29 23:44:51 2006.

MADDY wrote:

hey sinthiya, no harm done.....i dont smile like Maddy .....if i cud then i wouldnt be posting here, i wud have acted in mani's/shankar's movies.....

...you got that right....

MADDY wrote:

KM was one of the best movies of Mani ratnam.....no doubt....

i agree! ....

Madhavan, as real as always...and Simran, a great mother role.....beautiful movie, beautiful story, beautiful songs, beautiful characters...one of my favourite....
From: Thunderbird on Sun Apr 30 0:04:11 2006.

Maniratnam movies that I like... in order..

Nayakan ( All time favourite movie in tamil )
Bombay
From: Thirumaran on Sun Apr 30 0:07:31 2006.

My favourite MR movies Top 3..

1.Nayakan
2. Mouna Raagam
3. Bombay
From: MADDY on Sun Apr 30 1:30:21 2006.

svaisn wrote:

Any idea why MR stopped directing Tamzh movies.....

OR is he is plannoing to direct something soon??

svaisn, there is a site called orkut( i guess u know) and in that one of MR communities was claiming dat Mani is not going to do tamil movies as he feels they are hero-centric......he is rite in a way......but as ppl. point out there are ppl. like selvaraghavan,cheran,bala doing movies w/o any heroism......maybe mani shuld also try........but again MR and his best frnd ARR are having a hard time in Tamil with not many liking their brand of music/movies nowadays....
From: great on Sun Apr 30 2:01:45 2006.

orkut vetti pasanga!!!
From: m_23_bayarea on Mon May 1 21:46:54 2006.

Mani Ratnam�s `Guru` based on Ambani!

By Moviebuzz | Monday, 01 May , 2006, 08:43

Mani Ratnam is very secretive by nature and all his projects are kept under wraps till the release. And for his latest film Guru he made the lead actors and the crew sign confidentiality bonds!

Well, now the cat is out of the bag! Guru seems to be based on the life and times of India�s biggest textile tycoon-The late Dhirubhai Ambani. According to industry sources the film takes a hard look at the phenomenal rise and the making of the Ambani empire right from his early days in Aden (in the film it is shown as Turkey).

Abhishek Bachchan plays Dhirubhai Ambani and Aishwarya Rai plays his wife Kokilaben the simple lady. The basic plot of the film hinges on the famous Ambani philosophy-accomplishing what others think is impossible. In the film, Mithun Chakravarthgy plays a sophisticated negative character pitted against Abhishek (shades of Bombay Dyeing chairman Nusli Wadia?)

Mani sir is also giving Gurua romantic touch with some great melodies tuned by A.R.Rahman and has already shot the first schedule in Turkey with the lead actors and Mallika Sherawat who plays an important role.

Remember that Mani has a weakness for basing his films on real life characters like Velu Nayakan of Nayakan that delved into the life of Bombay underworld dreaded Tamil don of the 70�s and 80�s Varadaraja Muthaliar.

Similarly 10 years back Mani shot Iruvar under top secrecy as it was the story of MGR-Jayalalithaa-Karunanidhi. He did it at a time when Jayalalithaa was the Chief Minster of Tamilnadu! Who can forget his portrayal of the Mumbai riots and the depiction of Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray played by Tinnu Anand in Bombay?
_____________________________________________________

* Ambani character played by Abishek !!! Wonder how that'll be ... I thought some sophisticated lookin actor might have been better ... Like Surya as Sanjay Ramaswamy ...

* Bombay Dyeing Chairman Wadia is the negative charcater !!

* Malike Sherawat playin an important role !!

* Melodies tuned by ARR !!!
From: Scale on Wed May 3 5:20:33 2006.

Gurunadhars' will be back in "GURU". Cant wait for another Masterpiece from Mani-ARR-Gulzar and dubbed songs Mani-ARR-Vairamuthu combo
From: rami on Wed May 3 8:36:23 2006.

great wrote:

orkut vetti pasanga!!!

R u in orkut ?
From: great on Wed May 3 8:38:38 2006.

rami wrote:

great wrote:

orkut vetti pasanga!!!

R u in orkut ?

Yes or u in orkut

From: Thunderbird on Wed May 3 9:00:34 2006.

MADDY wrote:

svaisn, there is a site called orkut( i guess u know) and in that one of MR communities was claiming dat Mani is not going to do tamil movies as he feels they are hero-centric......he is rite in a way......but as ppl. point out there are ppl. like selvaraghavan,cheran,bala doing movies w/o any heroism......maybe mani shuld also try........but again MR and his best frnd ARR are having a hard time in Tamil with not many liking their brand of music/movies nowadays....

good to hear

From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:08:17 2006.

Nobody can match IR combition with MR. But ARR has come nearest place.

MR & IR

Idaya Kovil (Chance illa 4 another album)
Mounaragam
Geethanjali (Telugu)
Idayathai Thirudathey
Agni Natchathram
Anjali
Nayagan
Thalapathi
Pagal Nilavu

MR & ARR

Roja
Bombay
Uyire
Iruvar
Kannathil Muthamittal
Alai payuthey
Thiruda Thiruda
Ayutha Ezhuthu
Guru

Am i correct?

has mani has worked with other MDs?
From: great on Wed May 3 10:10:11 2006.

Could you confirm the MD of his kannada movie with Anil kappoor

and how about his Malayalam movie

Remaining list looks perfect .
From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:12:38 2006.

great wrote:

Could you confirm the MD of his kannada movie with Anil kappoor

and how about his Malayalam movie

Remaining list looks perfect .

Appdiya
From: great on Wed May 3 10:13:40 2006.

Yes his first movie is kannada . Infact first movie for Anil kapoor also

then he did malayalam
From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:15:15 2006.

Appo Geethanjali Illaiya
From: great on Wed May 3 10:18:26 2006.

Sanjeevi wrote:

Appo Geethanjali Illaiya

Nope

1. movie kannada

2. Malayalam

3. Tamil
which is pagal nilavu
From: great on Wed May 3 10:19:31 2006.

Gitanjali came much later i guess after Agni Natchathiram
From: Hulkster on Wed May 3 10:21:22 2006.

Tha movie was Pallavi Anupallavi in Kannada..his first movie....then came Pagal Nilavu which ahd rathika...his first movies gave a small glimpse of his potential...it was only from Mouna Raagam then did his skills come to the fore along with IR...while Balachander could give us innovative concepts on family life...MR chose to give a sentimental but guessing screenplay in Mouna Raagam...who can forget that theme music that comes in the movie...
From: great on Wed May 3 10:24:19 2006.

Hulk you are wrong

here is the comple fimography of Mr.Mani

http://imdb.com/name/nm0711745/
From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:29:59 2006.

great wrote:

Gitanjali came much later i guess after Agni Natchathiram

Never. Geethanjali was the original in Telugu and it was dubbed into tamil (Idayathai Thirudathey)

From: great on Wed May 3 10:34:08 2006.

Sanjeevi wrote:

great wrote:

Gitanjali came much later i guess after Agni Natchathiram

Never. Geethanjali was the original in Telugu and it was dubbed into tamil (Idayathai Thirudathey)

check the link !!!

From: Scale on Wed May 3 10:40:11 2006.

[quote="Sanjeevi"]Nobody can match IR combition with MR. But ARR has come nearest place. [\quote]

What do you mean? Did we (ARR)fans
ever claim that he has given better music than IR. thirundhave maateenghala. prove it man dont just blabber!

Thiruda Thiruda, Alaipayuthe add to the list. Guru innum releasea aagalay adhukullu epdi listla vanduchu. Mani Ratnam has even got the best songs from DEVA. near farunnu

Hulk,

Mouna Raagam theme music is toooooooooooooo gooooooood!

From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:42:23 2006.

great wrote:

Sanjeevi wrote:

great wrote:

Gitanjali came much later i guess after Agni Natchathiram

Never. Geethanjali was the original in Telugu and it was dubbed into tamil (Idayathai Thirudathey)

check the link !!!

i checked and it is correct what i told

and What is Kelviyin Nayagan

kelvi padavae illaiyae

From: Sanjeevi on Wed May 3 10:44:52 2006.

Sorry i forget Thiruda Thiruda (what a headache movie) and Alaipayuthey. I corrected the list
From: Hulkster on Wed May 3 10:47:23 2006.

Great correct thaanae....MR's first movie is Pallavi Anuppallavi in Kannada and then Pagal Nilavu in tamil....guess you misunderstood my first statement thinking that i was saying Geethanjali was pallavi anuppallavi in kannada.
From: Hulkster on Wed May 3 10:49:35 2006.

Yes IR's theme music was quite good for Mouna Raagam...even ARR had a penchant for creating excellent theme music like bombay film...howver you can guess that MR had started thinking of hollywood style films with no focus on songs but just BGM like he described ayuthu eluthu...i guess MR is interested in proving himself of international calibre.
From: great on Wed May 3 10:50:07 2006.

No hulk

his first movie was kannada

second was malayalam with Lal

3rd only tamil

He himself told in an interview years back
From: Hulkster on Wed May 3 10:51:10 2006.

Oh antha malayalam film solla varaengela...i had no clue about that...thanks for the correction..
From: Scale on Wed May 3 10:55:13 2006.

Let me tell you all 1 movie "Anjali" (IR musicla thaan) will throw everyone out of this industry. He doesnt need a Kamal haasan,IR,ARR,PC Sriram, Art Director,x,y,z, to prove in the art of "DIRECTION". & Ofcourse IRUVAR too.
From: Alien on Thu May 4 14:51:51 2006.

Quote:

Let me tell you all 1 movie "Anjali" (IR musicla thaan) will throw everyone out of this industry.

It didn't, rather bit the dust .....
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 14:53:13 2006.

Alien wrote:

Quote:

Let me tell you all 1 movie "Anjali" (IR musicla thaan) will throw everyone out of this industry.

It didn't, rather bit the dust .....

Alien, Are you saying ANJALI bit dust ??
From: Alien on Thu May 4 14:54:35 2006.

Didn't it Bay ?? Did it manage to have any impact among any cult ? ...
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 14:57:11 2006.

Alien wrote:

Didn't it Bay ??

Noooooooooooo ...... It was Superhit !! I saw that movie thrice in Udhayam in Madras, and it was soooo crowded !! I think I was only in my 5th Std or something, but it was a big hit at the BO !!

The first MR movie that bombed at the BO was Iruvar ... Before that, he was king both in class and mass !!
From: Alien on Thu May 4 15:02:50 2006.

Oh, thanks for that info bay ... U must've been talking abt city centres .... The same must have been the case for Guna too .... I mean u can't say it was a super hit with those centres alone ....

Quote:

The first MR movie that bombed at the BO was Iruvar ... Before that, he was king both in class and mass

And I heard Mouna raagam was his first decent hit in tamil ..... so the movies b4 that must have been flops too (1 or 2) ..... am just pointing this for ur last line ....
From: narayanan on Thu May 4 15:07:04 2006.

Anjali was really popular among the then 10 year olds. I remember it tasting success in city centers if not for any B/C centres.
~~~~~
Alien,
Pagal Nilavu was the first movie. Before that Manirathnam started his career in some Kannada movie (forgot the name).

Was'nt Pagal Nilavu a hit ?

From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 15:08:16 2006.

Alien wrote:

Oh, thanks for that info bay ... U must've been talking abt city centres .... The same must have been the case for Guna too .... I mean u can't say it was a super hit with those centres alone ....

And I heard Mouna raagam was his first decent hit in tamil ..... so the movies b4 that must have been flops too (1 or 2) ..... am just pointing this for ur last line .... Wink

You know Alien, I think as long as the movie is good and liked by the audience, it doesnt matter how the BO run is !!! And almost all of Mani's movies come into this category !! Would you negate me on this ??

From: narayanan on Thu May 4 15:16:04 2006.

Bay,
But Mani usually takes movies that are of the Box-office kind. Even the social themes had enough stuff to sell in BO. (Iruvar and Kannathil Muthamittal are exceptions to this general trend). I guess Pallavi Anupallavi failed BO too.
From: Alien on Thu May 4 15:17:08 2006.

No comments bay. ... (again escapuuuuu )

Narayanan .... donno abt Pagal nilavu , just learnt that Mouna raagam was his first decent hit in tamil .....
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 15:19:17 2006.

Alien wrote:

No comments bay. ... (again escapuuuuu )

From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 15:20:26 2006.

narayanan wrote:

Bay,
But Mani usually takes movies that are of the Box-office kind. Even the social themes had enough stuff to sell in BO. (Iruvar and Kannathil Muthamittal are exceptions to this general trend). I guess Pallavi Anupallavi failed BO too.

That's my point as well !!

His movies still sell at HUGE prices ... It's standin testimony to how popular he is at the BO too !!

From: Ramakrishna on Thu May 4 15:21:25 2006.

Mani's first movie was in Kannada.Even Vairamuthu wrote lyrics or that movie which had Anil Kapoor in the lead.
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 4 15:28:20 2006.

Mani's dilemma
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, May 04, 2006]

Lack of good script-writers is a cause of concern in Kollywood now.

A few decades ago, there were script writers and they were treated on a par with the director and the music-director.

Their role was greatly hailed and they managed to come out with good scripts. Unfortunately in the past few years, directors started to double up as script writers and the quality was badly reflected in the movies that they churned out.

Internationally-acclaimed director Manirathinam, says, 'Indeed yes. Unlike Malayalam and Bengali movies, we lack good script writers. In my case, I am forced to pen scripts, since I cannot find a good script writer. My attention gets diverted.'

Adding further , he says, 'If we are committed to come out with quality films in future, we have to nurture the skills of penning scripts among youngsters and bring them to limelight'.
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* Wow, he's so honest abt his Script-writing skills !!

* Still committed to give quality films !!

* Encourages Youngsters ... Mani, You rock !!
From: m_23_bayarea on Sat May 6 13:49:22 2006.

Mani conducts Ash-Abhishek marriage!!
May 06, 2006

It was the most widely expected marriage alliance in the film industry. Abhishek Bachan and Aishwarya Rai were courting each other and there was talk of impending engagement. Then came the news that the horoscopes of the two did not match as Ash is supposed to be a manglik, influenced by Mars. The Bachan family wanted the Rais to perform some parihara yagna, but the latter refused saying they did not believe in all these things. So, the affair just bombed.

Meanwhile, last week there was quite a buzz when the duo were seen dressed in wedding finery and exchanging marriage vows in colorfully decorated pandals with the purohit chanting the mantras. There was a huge crowd wishing the young couple although the family members of both the bride and the groom were conspicuous by their absence. At the opportune moment, one man said,� cut�.

Sorry, folks if you thought that the two eloped and married, you�re way off the mark. They were going through the motions for Manirathnam�s Guru. We only hope the reel thing is translated into real life sooner rather than later.
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Hmm, So AB and Ash are playin a married couple in the movie huh !!!
From: m_23_bayarea on Sat May 13 12:32:07 2006.

Is cinema the place for �rejects?� � Mani laments
May 13, 2006

Manirathnam, the auteur of Tamil cinema has a unique record to his credit. He is one of the very few who became the director straight away without doing the usual �assistant director-ship� stint. From the first movie �Pagal Nilavu� onwards, he has been bestowing his inimitable touch in all his movies. Soft lighting, succinct dialogues, songs at the right time, tight script - he has shown that it is possible to make serious and meaningful cinema in the commercial format.

He breathes movies and considers all things related to his profession as sacred.

But today, much to everyone�s chagrin, cinema has become the refuge of �rejects� from other fields and the haunt of talent-less youngsters.

At a function held to mark the inauguration of Cine Training Institute of Rajiv Menon, Manirathnam gave vent to his thoughts.

�Nowadays, many think that making cinema is easy and cheap. And there is a feeling that luck alone plays a role in making a film a hit,� lamented Mani. �Recently a well-known person came to me with his son. He asked me to take his son as my assistant director because he was good for nothing. Nowadays, many come to film industry mainly because they can�t employment elsewhere. This is the reason why good films are becoming rare.

This trend should change and those who join this industry should cherish its values.� Well said, Mani!
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Of course, TRUE feelings from the REAL Director !!!
From: Sinthiya on Sat May 13 17:39:12 2006.

hmm.....true...well said.

at the same time, it's not easy to make movies...especially good movies with new cast....it's risky....
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue May 16 13:15:16 2006.

No break in Maddy-Mani team
IndiaGlitz [Monday, May 15, 2006]

Rumours were abuzz that Madhavan had opted out of his mentor Manirathinam's Guru. Grapevine had it that he had been replaced by veteran actor Raj Babbar's son Arya Babbar in the movie.

When contacted, Madhavan denied all reports as baseless. 'There is not even an iota of truth in them'.

Going further. Maddy says, ' I should be fortunate to be part of Manirathinam's movie. The opportunity comes very rare in a actor's life. I don't want to miss it'.

Madhavan is currently shooting for Guru in Chennai.

Meanwhile, his next Tamil venture Arya directed by Balasekaran is nearing completion and would grace the theatres this July.
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Well said MADDY !!!
From: m_23_bayarea on Tue May 16 13:16:06 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

hmm.....true...well said.

at the same time, it's not easy to make movies...especially good movies with new cast....it's risky....

Exactly !! That's why Mani stands apart !!
From: selvakumar on Wed May 17 5:47:07 2006.

http://rasithathu.blogspot.com/2006/04/blog-post_26.html

தோழர்களுடன் பேசிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் சமயத்தில் மிகவும் பிடித்த தமிழ் படம் என்ன என்று பேச்சு வந்தது, உடனே என் மனதில் தோன்றிய படம் "கன்னத்தில் முத்தமிட்டால்".

தாயை காணத் துடிக்கும் குழந்தை தாயின் நாடு செல்ல, அங்கே அந்த குழந்தையின் தாய், தாய் நாடென்று தன் குழந்தை மட்டும் அல்ல, எந்த குழந்தையும் சொல்ல இயலாத நிலை உள்ளதால் அதற்காக போராடும் போராளியாக இருக்கிறாள். தன் தாய் நாடென்று தன் குழந்தையின் குழந்தைகளாவது சொல்ல வேண்டும் என்று நிகழும் போராட்டங்களை கண் முன் நிறுத்தி இருப்பார் மணிரத்னம்.

இந்தப் படத்தில் மிகவும் ரசித்த மூன்று காட்சிகள்

"விடை கொடு எங்கள் நாடே,கடல் வாசல் தெளிக்கும் வீடே, பனை மரக்காடே பறவைகள் கூடே மறுமுறை ஒரு முறை காண்போமா?" என்று ஒலிக்கும் எம். எஸ். வி. குரலும் அந்த பாடலுக்கு படப்பதிவும் நெஞ்சில் உள்ள அனைத்து உணர்ச்சிகளையும் கசக்கி பிழிந்து கண்களில் நீரை கொணர செய்தது. "எங்கள் சங்கீதம் பிள்ளையின் அழுகையிலே தொலைத்தோம், எங்கள் இளம் திங்கள் வெடிகுண்டு புகையிலே புதைத்தோம்" என்ற வரிகளில் உயிரே உருகி விட்டது போல ஒரு உணர்வு.

கதை ஒரு குழந்தையின் தேடல் என்பதால் குழந்தையும், தாயும் சந்திக்கும் காட்சி உணர்வு பூர்வமாக இருந்ததில் வியப்பில்லை. நந்திதா தாஸ் ஒரு அற்புதமான நடிகை என்பதை சந்தேகத்திற்கிடமில்லாமல் நிருபித்திருக்கும் காட்சி.

உணர்வுப் பூர்வமான படத்தில் நாயகன் நாயகி காதல் சொல்ல 15 நிமிடங்களே இருந்தாலும் "சட்டென நனைந்தது நெஞ்சம்" என்று இரண்டு நிமிடங்களில் காதலை கவிதையாக சொல்லி இருப்பார். தற்கொலை படைப் படையைச் சேர்ந்த இளைஞர் இயல்பாக பேசி கொண்டே அடுத்த கணத்தில் காரின் முன் விழும் காட்சியும் மிகச் நல்ல காட்சியே.

இந்தப் படத்தில் நடித்த அனைவருமே மிகவும் இயல்பாக நடித்திருப்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது. சிம்ரன், மாதவன், மகாதேவன் என்று அனைவரும் இயல்பாக நடித்திருப்பார்கள். அஞ்சலி படத்திலேயே குழந்தைகளை வைத்து வேலை வாங்குவதில் தன்னை நிருபித்த மணிரத்னம் இந்தப் படத்தில் மீண்டும் கலக்கியிருக்கிறார். கீர்த்தனாவின் நடிப்பு இந்த படத்தின் பலம்.

ஒளிப்பதிவு பற்றி பாடம் சொல்லிக் கொடுக்கும் இடங்களில் இந்த படத்தை ஒளிபரப்பி சொல்லிக் கொடுக்கலாம். அற்புதம்.

இசை "விடை கொடு எங்கள் நாடே", "ஒரு தெய்வம் தந்த பூவே" போன்ற பாடல்கள் அற்புதமாக அமைத்திருக்கிறார் ரஹ்மான்.

இந்த படம் அற்புதமாக வந்திருந்தாலும் ஒரு சிறிய குறை என்னவெனில் ஒரு குழந்தையின் தேடல், இலங்கைப் போராட்டம் இரண்டையும் ஒன்றாக தந்திருப்பதால் இரண்டின் முழுத் தாக்கமும் நம்மை வந்து அடையவில்லை என்பதுதான்.

ஆனாலும் இந்தப் படம் ஒரு மைல்கல் என்பதில் சந்தேகம் இல்லை.

விடை கொடு எங்கள் நாடே
கடல்வாசல் தெளிக்கும் வீடே!
பனைமரக் காடே!
பறவைகள் கூடே!
மறுமுறை ஒருமுறை பார்ப்போமா?
உதட்டில் புன்னகை புதைத்தோம்
உயிரை உடம்புக்குள் புதைத்தோம்
வெறும் கூடுகள் மட்டும்
ஊர்வலம் போகின்றோம்!
விடை கொடு எங்கள் நாடே
கடல்வாசல் தெளிக்கும் வீடே!
பனைமரக் காடே!
பறவைகள் கூடே!
மறுமுறை ஒருமுறை பார்ப்போமா?
உதட்டில் புன்னகை புதைத்தோம்
உயிரை உடம்புக்குள் புதைத்தோம்
வெறும் கூடுகள் மட்டும்
ஊர்வலம் போகின்றோம்!

கந்தல் ஆனாலும் தாய்மடி போல் ஒருசுகம் வருமா?வருமா?
சொர்க்கம் சென்றாலும் சொந்த ஊர்போல் சுதந்திரம் வருமா?வருமா?
கண்திறந்த தேசம் அங்கேகண்மூடும் தேசம் எங்கே?
பிரிவோம் நதிகளே
பிழைத்தால் வருகிறோம்
மீண்டும் தாயகம் அழைத்தால் வருகிறோம்
கண்ணீர்த் திரையில் பிறந்த மண்ணைக்
கடைசியாகப் பார்க்கின்றோம்

எங்கள் சங்கீதம் பிள்ளையின் அழுகையிலே தொலைத்தோம்
எங்கள் இளம் திங்கள் வெடிகுண்டுப் புகையிலே புதைத்தோம்
முன்னிரவில் மலரில் கிடந்தோம்
பின்னிரவில் முள்ளில் கிழிந்தோம்
கடல்நீர்ப் பறவைகாள்
இருந்தால் சந்திப்போம்
வனமே நதிகளே
வாழ்ந்தால் சந்திப்போம்
தலையில் கொஞ்சம் நெஞ்சில் அதிகம்
சுமைகள் சுமந்து போகின்றோம்

விடை கொடு எங்கள் நாடே கடல் வாசல் தெளிக்கும் வீடே!
பனைமரக் காடே! பறவைகள் கூடே!
மறுமுறை ஒருமுறை பார்ப்போமா?
உதட்டில் புன்னகை புதைத்தோம்
உயிரை உடம்புக்குள் புதைத்தோம்
வெறும் கூடுகள் மட்டும்
ஊர்வலம் போகின்றோம்!
From: terminator on Thu May 18 6:25:10 2006.

Mani's Magic..

Technical Analysis of Few scenes with screenshots

Movie List

Mouna Ragam (1986)

Nayakan (1987)

Thiruda Thiruda (1993)

Bombay (1995)

Iruvar (1997)

http://manismagic.iespana.es/
From: Lakshmana on Thu May 18 21:54:18 2006.

so is mani doing a movie with vijay or madavan?
From: m_23_bayarea on Thu May 18 23:58:48 2006.

Lakshmana wrote:

so is mani doing a movie with vijay or madavan?

With Maddy, YES - It's GURU !!

With Vijay - Let's hope for the best !!
From: Unicorn on Fri May 19 0:14:35 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Lakshmana wrote:

so is mani doing a movie with vijay or madavan?

With Maddy, YES - It's GURU !!

With Vijay - Let's hope for the best !!

For the best of Mani

From: m_23_bayarea on Fri May 19 0:17:44 2006.

Unicorn wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Lakshmana wrote:

so is mani doing a movie with vijay or madavan?

With Maddy, YES - It's GURU !! Thumbs Up!

With Vijay - Let's hope for the best !! Embarassed

For the best of Mani ROTFL

Yeah Yeah Yeah !!

Du know who Mani is btw ??

From: Unicorn on Fri May 19 0:20:48 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Yeah Yeah Yeah !!

Du know who Mani is btw ??

Director of recent gr8 flops like Ayutha Eluthu etc right

From: svaisn on Fri May 19 0:23:52 2006.

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Unicorn wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Lakshmana wrote:

so is mani doing a movie with vijay or madavan?

With Maddy, YES - It's GURU !! Thumbs Up!

With Vijay - Let's hope for the best !! Embarassed

For the best of Mani ROTFL

Yeah Yeah Yeah !! Not Worthy

Du know who Mani is btw ?? Rolling Eyes

may be he would have thought MANIVANNAN

From: m_23_bayarea on Fri May 19 0:23:56 2006.

Unicorn wrote:

m_23_bayarea wrote:

Yeah Yeah Yeah !!

Du know who Mani is btw ??

Director of recent gr8 flops like Ayutha Eluthu etc right

AE could have been a flop at the BO !! But it's an AWESOME movie you know !!
From: vuchuuuu on Sat May 20 20:51:02 2006.

I LOVE AE!!! IT HAS SURYA N MADDY IN IT! who can go rong wit that?

but for mani sir,
i ve only seen a few of his movies unfortunately...

I loooooved kannathil muthamittal, aayudha ezhuthu, n alai payuthe!!!!
From: Scale on Fri Jun 2 2:49:18 2006.

Many Many... more happy returns of the day. (Maniratnam & IR)
From: selvakumar on Fri Jun 2 8:18:34 2006.

Happy birthday MR !

Expecting many more class works from you.

Many more happy returns of the day
From: great on Fri Jun 2 8:51:31 2006.

Bday wishes to MR !!!

Expecting another Naayagan from you with KH
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jun 2 10:25:29 2006.

Well...I sincerly hope Mr. MR doesnt tire himself too much with his next project and has a long and healthy life.
From: Thirumaran on Fri Jun 2 10:36:16 2006.

Yeah.. That is right ss...

Wishing him for a long, healthy and happy life...

Happy birthday Maniratnam Sir...
From: kb on Fri Jun 2 10:40:15 2006.

happy birthday Manirathnam ayya avargaley..

bilingual ellam vittutu.. tamil padam mattum edungo
From: ajithfederer on Fri Jun 2 14:27:11 2006.

happy birthday maniratnam sir
From: Ramakrishna on Fri Jun 2 14:27:50 2006.

ajithfederer wrote:

happy birthday maniratnam sir

just in time

Happy birthday Mani sir
From: vuchuuuu on Fri Jun 2 20:55:36 2006.

happy b-day to my appa and MANI RATNAM SIR!!!!!!!
From: svaisn on Fri Jun 2 21:00:20 2006.

Happy birthday Mani sir
From: Ramakrishna on Fri Jun 9 7:08:47 2006.

Manirathnam selects 15 assistants for his Guru
June 09, 2006

With ace directors like Shankar and Mani Ratnam, it is a dream for any aspiring filmmaker to assist such stalwarts in the industry. And considering the fact that every second person today wants to make it big in cinema and direct films, it comes as no surprise that the number of assistants each director has is only increasing by the day. After a series of rigorous interviews and tests, Shankar selected 10 assistants for the film Sivaji.
Much like applying to any of the IIMs and IITs in the country, thousands of applications came pouring in, and finally ten were selected. While a few years back, such huge numbers would have been unheard of, today's filmmaking process and pace probably allows room to fit in such numbers.

Mani Ratnam is not to be left far behind, as he has actually chosen 15 assistants for his film Guru! Working with such large numbers can be quite a task, but Mani Ratnam, who is known for his meticulous planning, has chalked out a plan for his 15 sishyas as well. Mani's associate, Azagham Perumal has actually trained them all for a couple of weeks, before they begin work on the sets.
From: Sinthiya on Mon Jun 12 0:53:33 2006.

Happy Belated Birthday wishes to MANIRATNAM....
From: selvakumar on Mon Jun 12 0:56:12 2006.

Sinthiya wrote:

Happy Belated Birthday wishes to MANIRATNAM....

enna full ah belated wishes ah irukku
From: Sinthiya on Mon Jun 12 1:00:32 2006.

selvakumar wrote:

enna full ah belated wishes ah irukku

oh...i forgot....
Happy Belated wishes to IR as well... ... ...
From: groucho070 on Mon Jun 12 6:23:55 2006.

kb wrote:

happy birthday Manirathnam ayya avargaley..

bilingual ellam vittutu.. tamil padam mattum edungo

How true.

Didn't all the Hindi efforts flopped?

Does anyone here has figures as to the last best Box Office Mani had?

I was blown away when Nayakan came. On video alone, my brothers and I had watched it more than 20 times I believe...then.

After that, I noticed the scenes that he took from in the original Hollywood flicks, like Godfather, Once Upon A Time In America, etc. Even Kamal's performance was amalgam of Brando/Pacino/DeNiro of the first two Godfather films. I was disappointed.

I never watched Nayagan again. But I liked all the other films Mani did...and stayed away from Nayagan.

But now its different. Flicking scenes from other movies are acceptable. Remakes are even more acceptable...Hollywood does it without shame themselves.

So, I think I am ready to view Nayagan again...soon.

From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Jun 12 6:52:23 2006.

groucho070 wrote:

Extremely popular perception but untrue, unfortunately.
Please compare scene by scene and see for yourself. The only similarities maybe in the gelled/oiled hair combed back, the pout, running the hand through the hair etc. The voice modulation bit was there in Kadal Meengal and Kadihiyin Dairy itself. Brando's perfromance was characterized by calmness, the creasy forehead, an icy facade hiding a fierce competitive heart. Dialogue delivery etc were totally different. If you want to look for a Brando-like performance check out Pankaj Kapoor's performance in Maqbool. And the comparisons with Pacino's [Pacino's role was played by Nizhalgal Ravi, for heaven's sake!!!] and De Niro's acting are just figments of imagination!
Hitler's [or was it Goebell] maxim comes to mind. When a lie is repeated ten times by ten different people, it is perceived as truth

From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jun 12 8:25:58 2006.

I second Alwar here.. Moreover, me sure that Kamal wouldnt have wanted the scenes to be duplicated from God Father for you know, he is the trend setter
From: alwarpet_andavan on Mon Jun 12 8:38:06 2006.

Aalavandhaan,
Aandavar has been heavily inspired by western cinema and he has always admitted it. However, in this case, i'm afraid it [the allegation] is mere "parrot-speak"......
From: Aalavanthan on Mon Jun 12 8:47:04 2006.

B. Lenin & V.T. Vijayan were here

From: great on Mon Jun 12 12:24:50 2006.

groucho070 wrote:

kb wrote:

happy birthday Manirathnam ayya avargaley..

bilingual ellam vittutu.. tamil padam mattum edungo Very Happy

After that, I noticed the scenes that he took from in the original Hollywood flicks, like Godfather, Once Upon A Time In America, etc. Even Kamal's performance was amalgam of Brando/Pacino/DeNiro of the first two Godfather films. I was disappointed.

I never watched Nayagan again. But I liked all the other films Mani did...and stayed away from Nayagan.

But now its different. Flicking scenes from other movies are acceptable. Remakes are even more acceptable...Hollywood does it without shame themselves.

So, I think I am ready to view Nayagan again...soon.

Funny

Yeah the salt sequence which MR used during the kidnap sequence is a clear rip off from once upon a time in america . But KH performance does not have any trace of Alpacino or Deniro

From: Alien on Mon Jun 12 22:26:35 2006.

groucho070 wrote:

kb wrote:

happy birthday Manirathnam ayya avargaley..

bilingual ellam vittutu.. tamil padam mattum edungo Very Happy

Recently, I was watching this movie "Once upon a time in the west" - By the same director of "Once upon a time in America" - Sergio leone ..That movie is as much or more revered than Once upon a time in America....... Once I finished watching it, I put the commentary on and started watching it again ! (I watched only abt 15 mins of the movie with commentary) and I was so stunned to learn from the commentary that, almost all scenes(better said frames) were reference to some Holly/european classic that Sergio leone relished !!!
When these "great" Italian/American/.... directors do it, it is called Homage !
And Mani/Kamal are panned like anything !!
What is the diff between the two? Am I missing something?

From: groucho070 on Mon Jun 12 23:06:48 2006.

Guess you guys missed my last few para.

I said that its acceptable to steal scenes. Hollywood do that all the time now. So, I am ready to watch Nayagan again.

I mean come on, it appeared in Times 100, and who am I kidding if I were to dismiss it.

Kamal alone usually does a good job in copying. He'd Indianise the movies - take Mrs. doubtfire for instance. Or What about Bob and so on.

I am dismayed by lack of originality in Nayagan...then. But I am okay with it now. As for performance well...maybe the trio's (of Godfather) performance was too strong that I can't shake the memories when watching Nayagan.

As I said, I have told myself to shut up and enjoy this movie. I will watch it again one day. Thanks for your argument.

From: groucho070 on Mon Jun 12 23:20:47 2006.

alwarpet_andavan wrote:

groucho070 wrote:

It goes more than hair. The dental work (stuffed cheek), the shuffling walk, and the inevitable gestures before talking. Of course, Kamal does not go far like scratching the cheek or a cat - that would have been blatant copy.

Pacino? Well, watch the scene where he hits his daughter for the first time. Remember when Dianne Keaton tells Pacino that he aborted the baby, the waiting, the realisation, the shock and bang! He slaps her.

De Niro? The young Kamal. Watch GF 2.

Saying all that , I am also convinced that there are equal measure of Kamal in it.

The MOST Kamal of all was the unforgettable fight scene. Maaaan, he looked really scary there when he beat the crap out of the inspector. We cheered and at the same time we were shocked. That is very Kamal. We've seen it again in Sathya and Mahanathi.

When, Kamal himself decided to do a remake of Godfather (Devar Magan) he made it totally original. Who'd say that there was Brando and Pacino's influence in that movie. That is a very Tamil movie performed by two of the greatest Tamil actors .

That gentlemen is my argument.

Again, I now have nothing against Nayagan. Those were early efforts by a great director. Look at him now...a pride for Tamil film fans.

Hope you got what I was trying to convery. Thanks for your comments.

From: ramsri on Tue Jun 13 1:19:15 2006.

alwarpet_andavan wrote:

groucho070 wrote:

Andavare - agree hands down. I think we've had this discussion many times on many different threads, and every time the conclusion reached is the same. 'Nayagan' was not inspired by 'The Godfather' any more than, say 'Thevar Magan' was. People tend to forget that 'Godfather' was not as much about the Mafia as it was about the Family. 'Nayagan' ran along a different track - it was always a story centered around one man - unlike Puzo's novel, which kept branching off into sub-plots. Hence the need for Coppola's film to have an ensemble cast, which would do justice to all the characters, all of whom were deeply etched and equally important to the story's theme.
'Nayagan', on the other hand, was always about the protagonist - a character influenced, by the way, more by the real-life Varadaraja Mudaliar than by Don Corleone who was after all a figment of Puzo's imagination. Even as far the lead performance is concerned, I'm not sure how much Kamal's Velu Nayakar was inspired by Brando's Corleone. I think it was more about P.C.Sreeram being influenced by Gordon Willis to create the same sort of look and feel around the characters - which is what really leads to all these parallels being drawn.

From: P_R on Tue Jun 13 2:38:02 2006.

alwarpet_andavan wrote:

And the comparisons with Pacino's [Pacino's role was played by Nizhalgal Ravi, for heaven's sake!!!] and De Niro's acting are just figments of imagination!

Not clearly Michael. Mix Santino and Michael. In fact I have to equate the garden talk to the 'vethalai' offer to find any resemblance to Michael. I would rather go with Santino because of the wonderful Kamal version of: "look what they did to my son".

ThEvar Magan had no Santino. Only Fredo and Michael. ("UngalathAnE namabanum, vEra yaar irukka inga namburathukku")

From: groucho070 on Tue Jun 13 2:54:19 2006.

[quote="ramsri"][quote="alwarpet_andavan"]

groucho070 wrote:

I think it was more about P.C.Sreeram being influenced by Gordon Willis to create the same sort of look and feel around the characters - which is what really leads to all these parallels being drawn.

If I am not mistken Sreeram already had that style in Mouna Ragam. Maybe he was already influenced by Willis. That is normal, Willis is a renowned figure in that circle, and it is only natural to be influenced by him.

Otherwise, I think I have not be clear in my explanation. My apologies.

From: alwarpet_andavan on Tue Jun 13 6:41:21 2006.

groucho070 wrote:

Pacino? Well, watch the scene where he hits his daughter for the first time. Remember when Dianne Keaton tells Pacino that he aborted the baby, the waiting, the realisation, the shock and bang! He slaps her.

How differently on earth does one slap a woman"differently"???? If this scene is copied, then EVERY scene in the world is copied from somewhere or the other

BTW, check out the *eyes* of Pacino in that scene

groucho070 wrote:

De Niro? The young Kamal. Watch GF 2.

My answer is the same. Watch GF - 2. No copying

If you watch a movie *trying* to spot "similarities", chances are that you will find similarities even in the way a character says "Hello" on the phone.....

From: alwarpet_andavan on Tue Jun 13 6:43:10 2006.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Not clearly Michael. Mix Santino and Michael. In fact I have to equate the garden talk to the 'vethalai' offer to find any resemblance to Michael. I would rather go with Santino because of the wonderful Kamal version of: "look what they did to my son".

ThEvar Magan had no Santino. Only Fredo and Michael. ("UngalathAnE namabanum, vEra yaar irukka inga namburathukku")

Of course, and we can even say it was neither Santino nor Michael - it was a different character. My point was even if you assume, Nayagan had Michael's character, it was played by Shadows....

From: lancelot on Tue Jun 13 8:27:48 2006.

this is good... Godfather Vs Nayagan.
IMO... Nayagan was inspired by Godfather.
an nop dought that Kamal's acting had a glimps of Al Pachino in it.

but am not taking any credit off Kamal. he had done an amazing job.

hehe
From: groucho070 on Tue Jun 13 23:23:49 2006.

I rest my case. Thank you.

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