This is a second thread I've started.
I am really excited of this project. No, its not because of Periyar. I am reserving my judgement until I see the film. I have not seen the director's earlier effort, Barathi, simply because not only he got a non-Tamilian, but he got someone who can't even speak Tamil, with dubbed voice.
To my mind, SV Suppiah will always be Barathi. But hopefully in future, there will be a more definite film with proper cast.
I am excited about Periyar because of Sathyaraj. After making crappy (some very delightful) films, he is finally given an opportunity to flex his acting muscle.
I think criticism will come from the fact that he looks different from Periyar. I recall pictures of Periyar looking much darker (a wonderful contrast to his white hair and beard), and smaller. Sathyaraj's well built 6' 2" is wrong.
But, I think he will pull it off. He showed brilliant performances in the past (a long list of achievement in Tamil films). Of recent, I particularly liked his performance in Maran. Very restrained. Very professional. I hope he will do the same.
Hope you can show your views. Here are some of the stills (check out one shirtless scene, he shaved off that wools of his):
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...es/1/8737.html
Oh yes, I am a Sathyaraj fan. A guilty pleasure.
Sathyaraj in Periyar
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From: joe on 23rd August 2006 03:42 PM [Full View]
Grouch0,
Good Thread!
It was NT's dream to act in Periyar's character,unfortunately it didn't turn up!
But sathyaraj is a good choice as well ,not only because sathyaraj's face is suitable for different getups,but also sathyaraj himself a periyarist.
Sad..you havn't seen Bharathi..I understand your diapleasure in some non-tamilian acting as a greatest tamil poet of our times..But beleive me ,Shinde did a wonderful Job and Ilayaraj ,as usual brought soul to bharathi's lines ,just 'Nirapathuve nadapathuve' song is enough to feel that.
I too have a lot of expectation on this movie 'Periyar' .It is needed to have this movie to educate current generation about Periyar ,probably the most misunderstood leader.
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From: groucho070 on 23rd August 2006 03:50 PM [Full View]
True, NT always wanted to play Periyar - the very man who gave him Sivaji title.
I am never a fan of actor/resses with borrowed voice. So, I stayed away from Barathi. Yes, the songs were good.
I hope that the director will give a balanced view of Periyar, the good and the bad. The thing that Sathyaraj is a periyar follow worries me, as he may want to mostly defend Periyar. I think as a neutral actor, he should be able to make Periyar as human as possible.
But the best part is, most audience don't have much expectation from Sathyaraj. General audience have very short memory, so mostly they would have forgotten Sathyaraj's earlier better effort. So, it would be a pleasant surprise for the general audience to see a good performance.
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From: joe on 23rd August 2006 04:02 PM [Full View]
To be frank ,It is impossible .As this movie is funded (9 million Rs) by Tamil nadu Govt ,I expect a movie only to glorify Periyar .It is not a movie taken by a group without any political backup .But it has a strong influence from Periyar activists and movement and more important Tamil nadu cheif minister kalainjar ,who is a Periyar seedar.So unfortunately ,You can't expect a movie which deals with both sides of periyar.
Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: P_R on 24th August 2006 02:43 AM [Full View]
Gnana Rajasekaran's Barathi proved that he is not one of those guys who believes a series of historical events does not make a biopic. It is usually common to depict Barathi as the crazy, nationalist and leave it at that. But he had gone deeper and brought out the arrogant aesthete in Bharathi beautifully. So I am sure his Periyar is likely to be an interesting watch.
If I remember right Gnana Rajasekaran also made a documentary about the incident of a Dalit boy being beaten up by his teacher for drinking from the wrong pot. But that is no reason to suspect that he may be uncritical of Periyar. As Joe correctly points out,it is the source of funding that nails any hope of neutrality.
It would have been disastrous had Sayaji Shinde tried to pull an SRK a la Hey Ram. I remember SRK messing up fantastic lines like: Originally Posted by groucho070
Un jaatheekki prathinithi ya vanthrukke. Ille ?
Actually I liked Barathi even more because I was amazed how Shinde pulled it off without knowing Tamil. Rajeev (who dubbed for him) got the richly deserved State Award for Best Dubbing artiste that year.
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From: Surya on 24th August 2006 02:59 AM [Full View]
I'm quoting this here from another thread since it's relevent here...
Well, let's hope they show who he really was, as opposed to one "sided idop" worship propaganda. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Surya, Originally Posted by Surya
Dinamani Wrote:
"Rahasya does an Item Number in the movie! (
) Athaane, Periyar-ukku Kadavulai thaan pudikaathu, Kavarchi Pudikaame irrukuma?!"
The movie is supposed to depict both the sides of periyar. It is a known fact that he used to be a person who got addicted to some bad habits which is too personal !
Considering that, I would say it is fair and wont be something that comes out of the blue in the film !
If it does, movie will get a beating
I am expecting something like "BHarathi" out of this movie (without any commercial items). Let me see !
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From: Kumar on 24th August 2006 03:54 AM [Full View]
I hope that the end result is a slick, well produced movie (as opposed to tacky and ramshackle). The look and feel of the whole film will always play a vital role in any historical film.
I must say Barathi was a pleasant film to watch, but watching Sayaji Shinde play Barathi didn't sit comfortably with me. It comes down to familiarity with the language. I have no qualms about a non Tamil actor playing a character like Barathi (although i would prefer a Tamil one), but it was pretty obvious that Shinde wasn’t familiar with Tamil.
And will Periyar burst into song? I hazard to think.....
PS. As Joe said, Nadigar Thilagam showed interest in playing Periyar, but the project with Kalaignar didn't eventuate.
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From: groucho070 on 24th August 2006 07:01 AM [Full View]
Scary, Joe. But wouldn't Kalaingar have any qualms about allowing them to show the negative side as well...knowing well that he followed Anna when Anna left DMK (and pointed out some unfavourable incidents as a reason for leaving)? Originally Posted by joe
I am a fan of Sathyaraj, and the man, having had done too many films, sometimes look as if he had ran out of tricks in his bag. I hope that he can come out fresh in this movie. Being fresh is very tricky for someone who is 52 years old!
All in all, I know the film will be treated with respect. Hey, getting fund from goverment do give you a bit of a status.
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From: joe on 24th August 2006 07:18 AM [Full View]
Ofcourse! Anna & Co left DK after Periyar's controversial marriage with young Maniyammai ,when he was old ..But politically it is said Anna & Co was seraching for reasons to start a new movement since periyar was against making his movement invloving in election . Originally Posted by groucho070
But when Anna &co left Periyar and started the party DMK ,they reserved the president seat of the party for periyar and until periyar's death it was unoccupied(Anna was general seceratary of the party) .Even when Periyar teamed up with kamarajar and campaign against DMK ,DMK and Anna never utter a word against periyar .When DMK came to power for the first time ,Anna met Periyar and dedicated their victory to periyar..So all along Anna,kalainjar ,MGR always treated periyar as their leader.
Moreover Kalainjar was very close with periyar ,stayed with him and worked in periyar journal 'Viduthalai'.For kalainjar Periyar is always the 'Thalaivar' for him and Anna is always his 'Vazhi Kaati'
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From: joe on 24th August 2006 07:20 AM [Full View]
// Anna left DMK //
Anna &co left DK ,not DMK and DMK was formed by Anna.
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From: groucho070 on 24th August 2006 07:32 AM [Full View]
Thanks Joe, I recall reading them in NTs thread.
So, the only bone Anna had to pick was that DK was not political and he had political ambition (where is Murali sar when you need him).
Wonder who is playing Anna (has to be key figure in the movie). I think they got Ghandi there. There will be a lot of political/historical figures there...meaning a more identifiable ones as this history is slightly closer to us than Barathi's voice.
Prabhuram, I didn't know that there is an award for Dubbing artist. The good side is, they richly deserve it, especially the ladies. The bad side, it will give rise to more mannequins without own voice.
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From: joe on 24th August 2006 07:56 AM [Full View]
//Oh yes, I am a Sathyaraj fan. A guilty pleasure.//
Groucho,
I too liked sathyaraj ,especially in Vedam Puthithu and Amaithi padai
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From: Nakeeran on 24th August 2006 02:20 PM [Full View]
On what grounds, the govt is funding this movie ?
Its well known that EV Ramasamy Periyar was dead against one particular caste & also against Hindus & their practices ( while he never dared to question other religions )
I suspect a venemous intention from the present govt
So, u can never expect a NEUTRAL movie here . Even if the director wishes, he will be edited by the bigwigs
Soon one can expect a movie on Anna also
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From: joe on 24th August 2006 04:06 PM [Full View]
I too wonder who are acting in Anna,kamarajar,Kalainjar,rajaji roles which can't be ignored in a movie on periyar
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From: Surya on 2nd September 2006 02:48 AM [Full View]
The Maggots are at it again
People have started opposing Kushbu playing a role in the movie!
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From: raaja_rasigan on 30th September 2006 01:14 PM [Full View]
I too like periyar & have a respect over him. Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Its well known that EV Ramasamy Periyar was dead against one particular caste & also against Hindus & their practices ( while he never dared to question other religions )
But as given by Nakeeran, not only periyaar, others also do the same i.e., not questioning other religions. Because they won't get "sirupaanmai inathin vaakugal" if they do so.
Arasilyalla idhellaam saatharnamappa.
vote poduravanellaam ilichavaayanappaa.... ennaiyum serthudhaan
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From: raaja_rasigan on 30th September 2006 01:17 PM [Full View]
Anyway, I hope periyaar to get good response from public.
I think the last film like this, kamaraj, haven't done well in BO.
No sponser from congress
...... as they r busy in bringing kamaraj rule
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From: osama_sword on 13th January 2007 04:12 PM [Full View]
raja_rasigan
Enjoyed ur posts
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From: thimuru on 13th January 2007 04:58 PM [Full View]
i think moopanar financed that movie! Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
Anyway, I hope periyaar to get good response from public.
I think the last film like this, kamaraj, haven't done well in BO.
No sponser from congress ...... as they r busy in bringing kamaraj rule
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From: P_R on 13th January 2007 10:34 PM [Full View]
Bharathi was a success - atleast in Madras. I know it had a 100 day run in Devi. It was Media Dreams's debut venture and Sujatha was the Exec. Producer of the film. Originally Posted by Venkiraja
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From: Sanguine Sridhar on 14th January 2007 12:06 AM [Full View]
I hope the collection will be satisfactory . The drama between Kushboo - Thangar, Ilayaraja rejection has advertised a lot and Periyar himself a very unique person who has a mixed opinion in Tamizhnadu unlike Bharathi or Kamarajar. Periyar - Anti Periyar crowd will watch this movie more seriously. Lets hope for the best, the crew looks good. They have used Raghasiya, I dont think the dance will be as we expect rather something like 'Naan Sirithaal Deepavali' type.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 11th March 2007 04:20 PM [Full View]
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From: groucho070 on 9th April 2007 03:28 PM [Full View]
Since, I can't find a Sathyaraj thread, I am going to treat this as one.
Watched Anbudan (Gouthami) last night (Thanks NOV for thinking of me and reminding me).
And I knew we are in for a great treat when Sathyaraj was shown first...waiting for the host.
She comes in, show starts, and with Sathyaraj you know that you are in for great fun.
The man is casual, self deprecating, humble, modest, and of course, very funny. Knowing his history in the cinema field (almost thirty years now) it takes time for it to dawn on you that he has been part of the large landscape called Tamil film industry.
He did not go on and on about Periyar. Any other actor would have gloated and boasted about their 'different' or 'challenging' or 'risky' role.
He just shrugged it off, saying that he wanted to...and never thought he could pull it off. But when the director convinced him, he became confident.
There was a brief discussion on atheism and I could relate to most of what he is saying, even though I am an agnostic, not an atheist. I agree with him that people should be left alone with their individual faith.
Along the way we got to know the secret behind Tagudu Tagudu.
And of course, his complete disregard for 'image'. At Kamal's age and four years younger to Rajini, he played the former's grandfather and the latter's father around the same time (mid 80s). Therefore image had not bothered him.
Or his 'charity' side which , again, he just shrugged it off saying that it is his duty .
Director Raj Kapoor steps in in the final segment of the show and laugh-o-meter shoots right up. I like the way he calls Sathayraj "Namma Talaivar". I know it is just in fun...nothing serious.
I can see why Sathyaraj keeps getting jobs...it's just that he is fun to be with. This, we could see from Raj Kapoor's testimony.
Here is one unique survivor of the industry. I am not expecting NT or Kamal level performance in Periyar. If it is well written and directed, Sathyaraj can deliver the goods.
If not, it will be the most satisfying to him personally as an actor...and something for fans of his, like me, to talk about.
I usually do not want to meet stars. Of course, I had wanted to meed MGR and NT...but too late now. Right now, I really love to meet Kamal and Sathyaraj (not Rajini, even if I am a fan).
I hope I will one day.
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From: selvakumar on 9th April 2007 03:56 PM [Full View]
I watched the show for 5 mins in the previous week. I am still laughing at the way he described the MIND STATE of the industry !
SR: We were shooting for film in which I will be contesting in an election. The scene is like : The villan gang will threaten the people so that no one will come out in the streets on the polling day. For this scene, we ensured that not even a single living being will be in the street. But during the take, we found a DOG crossing the street. We tried to get that oen cleared off ! All our efforts ended in vain. Ultimately, it went with the movie. To our surprise, that scene received several CLAPS inside the theatre
Later on, I heard that for shooting a similar scene, one GANG was searching for a DOG for hours to replicate it effetively !
He is very much clear abt the industry !
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From: seran on 9th April 2007 04:09 PM [Full View]
One more thing he mentioned on a comic note
"We were shooting for a movie.Shobana was the heroine, Vasu was the director. There is a scene where I defeat Shobana in Dance. Hearing this she said 'idhellam ungalukke overa illa' "
He was referring this about the heroism in the film industry, where the hero always wins
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From: thinkfloyd on 9th April 2007 04:12 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Later on, I heard that for shooting a similar scene, one GANG was searching for a DOG for hours to replicate it effetively !
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From: smith on 9th April 2007 04:20 PM [Full View]
The producers of periyar will really not be worried. After all, it has been funded substantially by the Govt.
Satyaraj really need ot have to act as periyar. Just mouthing expletives will do.
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From: MrJudge on 9th April 2007 04:47 PM [Full View]
Gnanasekaran has done good job bringing something different to the tamil film industry. I hope this movie comes out good and gives him more opportunities to try different stories out. This one more movie I am looking forward to.
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From: selvakumar on 9th April 2007 04:56 PM [Full View]
Yaa... I also heard this one.. Hilarious one !! Originally Posted by seran
One more thing he mentioned on a comic note
"We were shooting for a movie.Shobana was the heroine, Vasu was the director. There is a scene where I defeat Shobana in Dance. Hearing this she said 'idhellam ungalukke overa illa' "
He was referring this about the heroism in the film industry, where the hero always wins eppadi thaan VASU ippadi ellam yosikiraaroe
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From: raaja_rasigan on 9th April 2007 07:31 PM [Full View]
lakha lakha lakha lakha Originally Posted by selvakumar
Yaa... I also heard this one.. Hilarious one !! Originally Posted by seran
One more thing he mentioned on a comic note
"We were shooting for a movie.Shobana was the heroine, Vasu was the director. There is a scene where I defeat Shobana in Dance. Hearing this she said 'idhellam ungalukke overa illa' "
He was referring this about the heroism in the film industry, where the hero always wins eppadi thaan VASU ippadi ellam yosikiraaroe
vasu + sathyaraj combination hav some good films like
Nadigan
Velai kidachiduchu
Rickshawmama
Mostly he will pair goundamani with him
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From: bingleguy on 17th April 2007 10:04 AM [Full View]
Indha padathulendhu oru paatu ketten .... well, paatoda starting enna nnu theriyala....... but very very logical questions ..... yaaraalayum chattunnu badhil solla mudiyaadha..... aanitharamaana kelvigal ....................
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From: VENKIRAJA on 17th April 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
how r d songs?
wen is periyar releasing?
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From: Nerd on 2nd May 2007 08:49 PM [Full View]
Wow. 4 stars. First time I am seeing rediff giving four stars to a tamizh movie Originally Posted by joe
How is it doing in chennai ?
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From: joe on 2nd May 2007 08:54 PM [Full View]
Nerd, Originally Posted by Nerd
Wow. 4 stars. First time I am seeing rediff giving four stars to a tamizh movie Originally Posted by joe
How is it doing in chennai ?
From the above link (blog) ,it seems the opening was poor ,but response in theatre was very good .I think people might think this must be some award movie / off beat ..But I hope word of mouth will make this movie run well ,I wish too for young generation watch this movie and get some (real) idea about Periyar.
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From: nemesis786 on 2nd May 2007 08:55 PM [Full View]
Movie is mega flop! Originally Posted by Nerd
Wow. 4 stars. First time I am seeing rediff giving four stars to a tamizh movie Originally Posted by joe
How is it doing in chennai ?
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From: Nerd on 2nd May 2007 08:56 PM [Full View]
But Joe even bhArathi opened poorly. But word of mouth made it a *hit* movie. It crossed 100 days in chennai and 50 days in Trichy ramba. BhArathi was also by Gnana. Rajasekaran if I am not wrong. So I expect something of that sort to happen :P
But I can't watch it here. It wont release here at all. Should wait for the DVD or a good internet print :P
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From: joe on 2nd May 2007 08:58 PM [Full View]
Konja naaL poRu thalaiva! Originally Posted by nemesis786
Movie is mega flop! Originally Posted by Nerd
Wow. 4 stars. First time I am seeing rediff giving four stars to a tamizh movie Originally Posted by joe
How is it doing in chennai ?
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 08:19 AM [Full View]
Thanks Joe. Originally Posted by joe
The essence seems to be that the performances are the film's major plusses. They have also pointed put that in the second half there is a feeling of 'string of events' rather than a story. Perhaps that owes to the lobbies that pressured the filmmakers to make changes in the last few months.
Overall, even discounting the fact that the review is from Dinakaran, looks like the movie is not to be missed. Hope some hubbers see and post opinions soon.
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 08:22 AM [Full View]
PrabhuRam,
If you are not convinced with dinakaran review ,read rediff review posted above. 
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 08:27 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
PrabhuRam,
If you are not convinced with dinakaran review ,read rediff review posted above. 
Convinced-nu dhAnE sonnEn ?!
I read the rediff and the blogger review too. The thanks was actually for posting all of them
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 08:44 AM [Full View]
PR
Namma nemisis muthal naaLileye padam mega flop-nnu mudivu pannittaru ..muthal naal opening vachu mudivu pannurathukku periyar enna 'King of opening'-a?
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 08:54 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
PR
Namma nemisis muthal naaLileye padam mega flop-nnu mudivu pannittaru ..muthal naal opening vachu mudivu pannurathukku periyar enna 'King of opening'-a? Barathi's opening was ordinary too. Word of mouth made it a success. It ran for 100 days in dEvi theatre.
periyAr nallA OdunA inga release pannuvAngannu enakku oru nappAsai.
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From: groucho070 on 3rd May 2007 10:19 AM [Full View]
Well, there are also small number of Sathyaraj fans like me who can go out and spread the good word. I can only do so much here in Malaysia. I hope there would be some fans there who can help with the publicity of that film in India.
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From: selvakumar on 3rd May 2007 10:32 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
PR
Namma nemisis muthal naaLileye padam mega flop-nnu mudivu pannittaru ..muthal naal opening vachu mudivu pannurathukku periyar enna 'King of opening'-a?
Periyar vera vithathula thaan king of opening .. But BO la kedaiyaathu It is expected since movies like Kamarajar, Bharathi etc had the samething.
B'lore la oru nalla padam release panna mattenguraanunga Only PEAS got released here. No UU or Chennai - 28
Periyar - Naanum NERD maari Net la thaan paarkanum pola irukku
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 10:44 AM [Full View]
I hope fans in TN make the movie run so that it becomes popular, so that theatre owners here think beyond Parattai ..... romba aasaippadurEn.....will soon resign to youtube Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 10:56 AM [Full View]
A review from a viewer
பெரியார் - திரைப்படம், நேற்று பார்த்தேன்। உண்மையிலேயே, வெகு நாட்களுக்குப் பிறகு, ஒரு நல்ல படத்தைப் பார்த்த அனுபவம்।
சத்யராஜ், பெரியாராகவே வாழ்ந்து இருக்கிறார்। வரும் அனைத்து கதாப்பாத்திரங்களும், தனது பாத்திரத்தை உணர்ந்து நடித்து இருக்கின்றனர்। ஒரு மனிதனின், 92 வருட பயணத்தை, 3ஏ மணி நேரங்களில், காண்பிப்பது என்பது, மிகச் சிரமமான காரியம்தான். இயக்குனர், மிக நன்றாகக் கையாண்டு இருக்கிறார்.
படத்தின் முற்பகுதி, பெரியாரின், இளமைப் பருவமும், காதல், கல்யாணப்பருவமும், அவரது, எதிர்கால வாழ்க்கைக்யின், போக்கிற்க்கான அடிக்கல்களும், நம்மை ஒரு எதிர்பார்ப்போடு, நிமிர்ந்து உட்காரச் செய்கிறது। பிற்பகுதியில், அவரது கொள்கைகள், அவரது, கோட்பாடுகள், அவரது சிந்தனைகள், இக்கால சந்ததியினருக்கு, நல்ல விதத்தில் புரியும்படி சொல்லியிருக்கிறார்கள்। கடவுளா, கல்லா என்கிற பாட்டு, நம்மை சிந்திக்க வைக்கிறது. தாழ்ந்த சாதியினர் இன்று, தலை நிமிர்ந்து கோவிலுக்குள், தாம் எப்படி நுழைய முடிகிறது, என்று பெரியாரை நினைத்து, பெருமைப்பட்டுக்கொள்ளலாம். விதவைப்பெண்கள், கணவன் இறந்ததினால், அவர்களுடைய எதிர்காலம், இன்று, இருட்டறையில் இல்லாது, வாழ்க்கையில், ஒளியைக்க் காணும், மனோதிடம், எங்கிருந்து, வித்திட்டது என அறிந்துக் கொள்ளலாம். குலத்தொழில் என்று ஒன்றில்லாமல், செருப்பு தைப்பவன் பிள்ளை இன்று எப்படி, பொறியாளர் ஆக முடிகிறது என்று தெரிந்துக்கொள்ளலாம்.
படம் நெடுகிலும், பெரியாராக வாழ்கிற சத்யராஜுக்கு, நிஜமாகவே விருது கொடுக்ககலாம்.
குஷ்பு, ஜோதிர்மயி, மனோரமா, தங்களது, திறம் பட நடிக்கும் திறனை செயல்படுத்தியிருக்கிறார்கள்.
மொத்ததில் பெரியார், தேவை நாட்டுக்கு. இன்றைய இளைஞர்களுக்கு!!!
நுனி நாக்கில் ஆங்கிலம் பேசிக்கொண்டு திரியும், நவ நாகரீக மக்களுக்கு, மேல் நாட்டு மோகம் கொண்டு நம் நாட்டு நிலையறியாத மக்களுக்கு இப்படம், நிச்சயம், தன்னிலையை அறிந்து கொள்ள உதவும்.
சத்யராஜின் திரைப்பயணத்தில், இப்படம், ஒரு மைல்கல் என்பது, நிச்சயம்।
வேண்டும், இப்படிப்பட்ட படங்கள், நாட்டிற்கு।
http://balabharathi.blogspot.com/2007/05/blog-post.html
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From: Jabroni on 3rd May 2007 11:02 AM [Full View]
periyar padam vetRi padamaaga amaiya kuudathu
me being a Hindu won't watch the film of a hypocrite
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 11:42 AM [Full View]
Even in singapore,it is not released
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From: NOV on 3rd May 2007 11:54 AM [Full View]
not here in malaysia too. Originally Posted by joe
Even in singapore,it is not released
not that I am going to waste time watching it anyway....
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 11:57 AM [Full View]
AmAm namakku haridAs paakuradhukkE nERam sariyA irukku illai Originally Posted by NOV
not here in malaysia too. Originally Posted by joe
Even in singapore,it is not released
not that I am going to waste time watching it anyway....
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From: NOV on 3rd May 2007 11:59 AM [Full View]
PrabhuRam!
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From: swathy on 3rd May 2007 12:14 PM [Full View]
Thanks Joe
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 12:19 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
not that I am going to waste time watching it anyway....
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 03:25 PM [Full View]
why did govt provided financial help for the movie specially? Originally Posted by Jabroni
periyar padam vetRi padamaaga amaiya kuudathu
me being a Hindu won't watch the film of a hypocrite
did they do it for the movies abt other national leaders from tamilnadu?
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 03:29 PM [Full View]
Periyar - Realistic chronicle
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, May 03, 2007]
Director Gnanarajasekaran proved his mettle chronicling the life of poet Bharathi in his previous attempt. He has now gone a step ahead to record the happenings in the life of the rationalist leader E V R Ramasamay Naicker aka Periyar, who launched a crusade against caste and creed in Tamil Nadu.
A staunch leader with strong but often contentious approach, Periyar predominantly fought against the Brahmins. He was mentor and a role model to several Chief Ministers including Anna and M Karunanidhi. His brainchild Dravidar Kazhagam is still very active and holds a say in Tamil Nadu politics.
His legacy to the State is still a matter of debate. To have taken such a subject for cinematic exploration is in itself pretty brave. But Gnanarajasekhran plays it all safe and doesn't take extreme positions. Instead, he has almost gone for a sanitized version of a larger-than-life leader's life.
Treading a safety path, Gnanarajasekaran has taken pages from the life of Periyar, which many are familiar with. He has pepped it with drama elements to make it an engrossing tale. The script makes the move work.
Doing a movie on a leader, who has won a place for himself in the history, is no easy task. It is walking on a tightrope, a one wrong portrayal would lead to chaos. But Gnanarajasekaran has done it with aplomb.
Sathyaraj playing the role of his life has come up trumps. It is a refreshing change to see Sathyaraj in the role of Periyar. In fact, the make-up and the physical demeanor all fit him to T. He has played the role with great caution not going overboard.
Gnanarajasekaran deserves a pat for choosing artistes for all other characters. Jyothirmayi (Nagammai), Kushboo (Maniammai), directors S S Stanley (Anna), Arthikumar (Rajaji) or Vasu Vikram as M R Radha is very apt.
Those who are familiar with history and the life of Periyar would find the movie all the more interesting. Ramasamy (Sathyaraj) grows up in the family of a God-fearing Naicker family. The iconoclast in him makes him to be an atheist. He fights against social evils in his hometown Erode and eventually incurs the wrath of his father. Married to Nagammai (Jyothirmayi), Ramasamy succeeds his father in his business and also wins a name for him in the society.
Rajaji and his men persuade Periyar to join Congress. However with his demand for reservation for the backward classes rejected at Congress meetings, he is forced to come out of Congress to launch a crusade against Brahmin domination in the society.
His spearheads Vaikom, protest against toddy shops and soon floats Dravidar Kazhagam.
His proteges Anna Durai and M Karunanidhi, after developing differences on certain issues float Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) and ends up capturing power in Tamil Nadu only with a vision to realize Periyar's dreams. They still command a respect for Periyar.
Until his last breath, Ramasamy, who was fondly called by his followers as Periyar, continues his crusade against upper class.
The intimacy shared between Rajaji and Periyar, though they have different ideals, Gandhiji's respect for Periyar among others have been narrated well on the screen.
Sathyraj is decidedly top class. That he is a real-life follower of Periyar makes matters easy for him. His conviction shines all through.
Kushboo and Jyothirmayi are inspired choices as they fit the role very aptly.
Vidyasagar's background score gives a fillip. He has used instruments that were prevalent during Periyar days. Equally appealing is Thangar Bachan's cinematography. B Lenin's crisp editing and Vairamuthu's hard-hitting lyrics against caste systems sits well on the screen.
Amidst regular cinema, Periyar ushers a fresh feel thanks mainly to director Gnanarajasekaran's hard work.
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...view/8737.html
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 04:46 PM [Full View]
My private sources say Periyar movie is getting very good response after word of mouth 
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 04:47 PM [Full View]
apdiya Originally Posted by joe
My private sources say Periyar movie is getting very good response after word of mouth
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From: MADDY on 3rd May 2007 04:59 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thimuru
why did govt provided financial help for the movie specially? Originally Posted by Jabroni
periyar padam vetRi padamaaga amaiya kuudathu
me being a Hindu won't watch the film of a hypocrite
did they do it for the movies abt other national leaders from tamilnadu?
point maamu ........this govt. is more interested in cinema/drama than running the state
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From: Nakeeran on 3rd May 2007 04:59 PM [Full View]
Did the govt fund for Kamaraj the king maker ? Originally Posted by thimuru
why did govt provided financial help for the movie specially? Originally Posted by Jabroni
periyar padam vetRi padamaaga amaiya kuudathu
me being a Hindu won't watch the film of a hypocrite
did they do it for the movies abt other national leaders from tamilnadu?
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 05:05 PM [Full View]
NO! Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Did the govt fund for Kamaraj the king maker ? Originally Posted by thimuru
why did govt provided financial help for the movie specially? Originally Posted by Jabroni
periyar padam vetRi padamaaga amaiya kuudathu
me being a Hindu won't watch the film of a hypocrite
did they do it for the movies abt other national leaders from tamilnadu?
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 05:53 PM [Full View]
இந்திய அரசாங்கம் வேண்டாம்
எங்களுக்குத் தமிழர்களுக்கு - தமிழ் நாட்டாருக்கு - இந்திய அரசாங்கம் வேண்டாம். தமிழ்நாடு - தமிழர்கள் இந்திய அரசாங்கத்தின் கூட்டு ஆட்சியில் இந்திய யூனியனில் இருக்க விரும்பவில்லை. நாங்கள் எங்களை நாட்டை, தனிப்பட்ட பூரண சுயேச்சையுள்ள தனியரசு நாடாக ஆக்க விரும்புகிறோம். மத்திய கூட்டாட்சியிலிருந்து பிரிந்து கொள்ள ஆசைப்படுகிறோம். ஆகவே இந்திய தேசியக் கொடியைக் கொளுத்துவது - இந்தியக் கூட்டாட்சி என்பதில், தமிழ் நாட்டுத் தமிழர்களாகிய நாங்கள் பிரஜைகளாக இருக்க சம்மதப்படவில்லை என்கின்ற எங்களுடைய இஷ்டமின்மையக் காட்டுவதேயாகும்.
- பெரியார்
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From: Nakeeran on 3rd May 2007 06:04 PM [Full View]
And the govt is funding such a person ! Amazing !!
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 06:05 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
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From: Nakeeran on 3rd May 2007 06:06 PM [Full View]
Did Kamaraj movie get tax exemption atleast ?
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 06:06 PM [Full View]
dontknow! Originally Posted by Nakeeran
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 06:44 PM [Full View]
TN rejoices as Periyar hits cinemas
Pratibhaa
CNN-IBN
PERIYAR ON CELLULOID: The movie directed by Gnanarajasekar captures the political and personal life of Periyar.
Chennai: A movie on one of the biggest revolutionary leaders of Tamil Nadu, EV Ramaswamy Naicker or more popularly known as Periyar, will hit the theatres after crossing many hurdles on Tuesday.
The movie, directed by Gnanarajasekar, captures the political and personal life of Periyar who is known as the father of the Dravidian movement.
“I have always wanted to do the role of a historical character and such roles always become immortal. But as far as I’m concerned I follow Periyar’s ideologies, I don’t believe in God and even in other issues such as women’s liberation, I’m his follower,” actor Sathyaraj said.
But the movie about the Dravidian icon, who preached rationalism, had to endure irrational objections from today’s political parties.
The PMK started it all when they objected to actress Khushboo playing the role of Periyar’s wife Maniyammai, a hangover from the PMK’s agitation against her regarding her comments on pre-marital sex.
“I never had any hiccups doing the project because when the project was offered to me I grabbed it with both hands. If any political parties had any hiccups with me doing this movie it was their problem not mine,” Khushboo said.
But despite all the troubles, the movie funded by the Tamil Nadu government has finally released, perhaps an effort to immortalise a man whose followers are today’s decision makers.
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 09:05 PM [Full View]
Let's not jumble up judging PeriyAr(EVR), the person and the PeriyAr, the film.
Discussing EVR, his contribution, his controversies, his methods and motives is too complex and will mostly take us beyond the scope of this Hub. For instance, it is precisely the kind of opinions, as the quoted by thimiru that would be interesting to watch the film has to offer.
The very fact that EVR raises so many different reactions, most of them rather intense, make him an interesting subject for a biopic. Moreover through his life and times, one would be able to see a slice of TN political history on film. Very few films have done that.
Granted, that the Govt. funding this movie is controversial. For instance, the Govt. would never fund a movie on Rajaji, whose personality is full of paradox and his legacy is largely misunderstood. But, as of now the chief concern is, whether Govt. funding has affected the quality of the PeriyAr film. And from the reviews it looks like the movie stands up over and above any such influences.
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:07 PM [Full View]
PR
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From: Nerd on 3rd May 2007 09:08 PM [Full View]
Yeh. It got tax exemption and I guess it got financial help from the government as well. I remember reading about it somewhere. Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Did you guys check out the rediff messageboard on the Periyar review article. Hilariously funny but horrenedously offending thamizh people
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:14 PM [Full View]
Yeah! Better not to read those which deserve to be ignored. Originally Posted by Nerd
horrenedously offending thamizh people
On the other hand ,it shows even after these much years the name 'Periyar' brings how much vayitherichal to some people
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 09:21 PM [Full View]
Rediff has gone too rightwing these days. Not just the message board. Even the focus of the news articles and editorials. Originally Posted by Nerd
Idhai vida comedy CNN-IBN news items. A few days back JJ created a stir with a Hindi address in UP, while campaigning for Mulayam. CNN-IBN immediately became sociologists and started talking about how this may help bridge the North-South divide (!)
In that article they said: "..on the stage were other leaders from the South like bangAru Lakshman". enakku shock ! BangAru lakshman is BJP, how come he is on Mulayam's stage ? Then I found out that they were actually referring to BangArappa (former Karnataka CM and now SamajwAdi MP).
They can't tell apart BangAru Lakshman and BangArappA and they were venturing quick analyses about North-South divide'. PongadA...... I guess if JJ had spoken in English, they would have had a hard time telling apart JJ and Chandrababu Naidu
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From: villan007 on 3rd May 2007 09:25 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thimuru
இந்திய அரசாங்கம் வேண்டாம்
எங்களுக்குத் தமிழர்களுக்கு - தமிழ் நாட்டாருக்கு - இந்திய அரசாங்கம் வேண்டாம். தமிழ்நாடு - தமிழர்கள் இந்திய அரசாங்கத்தின் கூட்டு ஆட்சியில் இந்திய யூனியனில் இருக்க விரும்பவில்லை. நாங்கள் எங்களை நாட்டை, தனிப்பட்ட பூரண சுயேச்சையுள்ள தனியரசு நாடாக ஆக்க விரும்புகிறோம். மத்திய கூட்டாட்சியிலிருந்து பிரிந்து கொள்ள ஆசைப்படுகிறோம். ஆகவே இந்திய தேசியக் கொடியைக் கொளுத்துவது - இந்தியக் கூட்டாட்சி என்பதில், தமிழ் நாட்டுத் தமிழர்களாகிய நாங்கள் பிரஜைகளாக இருக்க சம்மதப்படவில்லை என்கின்ற எங்களுடைய இஷ்டமின்மையக் காட்டுவதேயாகும்.
- பெரியார்
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From: nemesis786 on 3rd May 2007 09:25 PM [Full View]
Well if someone endorses the idea of mass city burning just bcoz a king killed her womaniser husband then cant they talk about periyar?
Kannagi is role model silai vaikanumnu soluvaingalam aana periyara pathi expose panna vayatherichalam
kannagi mythology illama enavam? Can someone burn a city with just a mere word? U can have statues of her but if hindus commit idolatory udane hate comments from their party
What logic is this? Then whats the difference between Kannagi who burnt a city for her husband and hitler who burnt jews thinking jews were evil bcoz of some mythological sin they allegedly commited?
First try to clean the mythologies on ur side! Everything is fine unless it doesnt attack their religion or faith or faithlessness
If you think ur a rationalist then KANNAGI should be ruled out of it totally! How come the so-called rationalists r not ruling her out n call her emblem of tamil culture?
Everything is fun until it happens to others
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:26 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:33 PM [Full View]
Well said Originally Posted by nemesis786
FYI ,Periyar Ruled out Kannagi totally.
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From: c4ramesh on 3rd May 2007 09:35 PM [Full View]
semma poduu Originally Posted by nemesis786
Well if someone endorses the idea of mass city burning just bcoz a king killed her womaniser husband then cant they talk about periyar?
Kannagi is role model silai vaikanumnu soluvaingalam aana periyara pathi expose panna vayatherichalam
kannagi mythology illama enavam? Can someone burn a city with just a mere word? U can have statues of her but if hindus commit idolatory udane hate comments from their party
What logic is this? Then whats the difference between Kannagi who burnt a city for her husband and hitler who burnt jews thinking jews were evil bcoz of some mythological sin they allegedly commited?
First try to clean the mythologies on ur side! Everything is fine unless it doesnt attack their religion or faith or faithlessness
If you think ur a rationalist then KANNAGI should be ruled out of it totally! How come the so-called rationalists r not ruling her out n call her emblem of tamil culture?
Everything is fun until it happens to others
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From: nemesis786 on 3rd May 2007 09:36 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Well said Originally Posted by nemesis786
FYI ,Periyar Ruled out Kannagi totally.
Thanks for agreeing
I can discuss more on periyar but since this is film thread not on the person as PR said i will let u guys discuss in peace without my intervention :P
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:40 PM [Full View]
Thanks for agreeing Periyar a rationalist Originally Posted by nemesis786
Originally Posted by joe
Well said Originally Posted by nemesis786
FYI ,Periyar Ruled out Kannagi totally.
Thanks for agreeing
You will be happy to read this
http://www.thinnai.com/?module=displ...45&format=html
see how periyar said what you said about kannagi
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From: nemesis786 on 3rd May 2007 09:42 PM [Full View]
joe thanks for this article! I think periyar's rela principles have been tampered n tossed n changed as per the wills of some selfish politicians
Once again Thanks for the article
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 09:52 PM [Full View]
Exactly ..'Periyar' padam paartheenganna ungalukku innum pala unmaigal theriya varalaam. Originally Posted by nemesis786
I think periyar's rela principles have been tampered n tossed n changed as per the wills of some selfish politicians
Kannal Kaanpathum poi
Kaathaal kedpathum poi
Aaraainthu aRivathe mei
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From: kannannn on 3rd May 2007 09:59 PM [Full View]
I often visit rediff for its message boards. Some of the messages are incredibly funny and some are plain filthy. I still don't understand the reason they have the boards though. Originally Posted by Nerd
Did you guys check out the rediff messageboard on the Periyar review article. Hilariously funny but horrenedously offending thamizh people
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:13 PM [Full View]
kannagi is mythological charecter!....yeah...its mythology...who said not? Originally Posted by nemesis786
Well if someone endorses the idea of mass city burning just bcoz a king killed her womaniser husband then cant they talk about periyar?
Kannagi is role model silai vaikanumnu soluvaingalam aana periyara pathi expose panna vayatherichalam
kannagi mythology illama enavam? Can someone burn a city with just a mere word? U can have statues of her but if hindus commit idolatory udane hate comments from their party
What logic is this? Then whats the difference between Kannagi who burnt a city for her husband and hitler who burnt jews thinking jews were evil bcoz of some mythological sin they allegedly commited?
First try to clean the mythologies on ur side! Everything is fine unless it doesnt attack their religion or faith or faithlessness
If you think ur a rationalist then KANNAGI should be ruled out of it totally! How come the so-called rationalists r not ruling her out n call her emblem of tamil culture?
Everything is fun until it happens to others
the person who funded for this periyar movie is the reason for the kannagi silai .... not-anti periyar force
ellaame makkal panamthan...we dint ask them to place kannagi silai or shivaji silai(makkalukaga enna perusa kilichar...kasu vangituthana nadichar)
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From: c4ramesh on 3rd May 2007 10:15 PM [Full View]
For your Kind info, Nemisis was taking a indirect hit at those very ppl. Originally Posted by thimuru
kannagi is mythology!....yeah...its mythology...who said not?
the person who funded for this periyar movie is the reason for the kannagi silai .... not-anti periyar force
ellaame makkal panamthan...we dint ask them to place kannagi silai or shivaji silai(makkalukaga enna perusa kilichar...kasu vangituthana nadichar)
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:16 PM [Full View]
his article supported the funding of periyar movie it seemed Originally Posted by c4ramesh
For your Kind info, Nemisis was taking a indirect hit at those very ppl. Originally Posted by thimuru
kannagi .... mythology!....yeah...its mythology...who said not?
the person who funded for this periyar movie is the reason for the kannagi silai .... not-anti periyar force
ellaame makkal panamthan...we dint ask them to place kannagi silai or shivaji silai(makkalukaga enna perusa kilichar...kasu vangituthana nadichar)
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From: nemesis786 on 3rd May 2007 10:17 PM [Full View]
@thimuru
c4ramesh is right :P
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:17 PM [Full View]
then no probs Originally Posted by nemesis786
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 10:19 PM [Full View]
Sila Perukku Aaththiram kannai maraikkuthu
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From: nemesis786 on 3rd May 2007 10:21 PM [Full View]
You are very right joe Originally Posted by joe
Sila Perukku Aaththiram kannai maraikkuthu
Andha aathirathila 95 lacs apadiye kuduka pattadhu
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From: c4ramesh on 3rd May 2007 10:21 PM [Full View]
I am not sure if it did or not, only nemisis should say that. Originally Posted by thimuru
his article supported the funding of periyar movie it seemed Originally Posted by c4ramesh
For your Kind info, Nemisis was taking a indirect hit at those very ppl. Originally Posted by thimuru
kannagi .... mythology!....yeah...its mythology...who said not?
the person who funded for this periyar movie is the reason for the kannagi silai .... not-anti periyar force
ellaame makkal panamthan...we dint ask them to place kannagi silai or shivaji silai(makkalukaga enna perusa kilichar...kasu vangituthana nadichar)
But even if he did, it no way makes the funding of the film wrong. Consider a person who is murderer, if he saves a life. Does it make the act wrong?
if some one says the act is wrong it is circumstantial ad hominem.
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 10:24 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by nemesis786
You are very right joe Originally Posted by joe
Sila Perukku Aaththiram kannai maraikkuthu
Andha aathirathila 95 lacs apadiye kuduka pattadhu Antha arasiyalukkuLLa naan poga virumpalla
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:27 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by nemesis786
You are very right joe Originally Posted by joe
Sila Perukku Aaththiram kannai maraikkuthu
Andha aathirathila 95 lacs apadiye kuduka pattadhu
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 10:36 PM [Full View]
makkaLukkAga seyyuradhunnA enna ? Originally Posted by nilavu
seyyura vElaikku kaasu vaanginA andha vElaikku madhippu illAma pOyirumA ?
Sir CV Raman must have been drawing a monthly salary from the University of Calcutta while conducting his research. So do we disacount his work completely ? Then why are we eager to discount works of film folks ? Just because their huge salaries are eye-sores ?
That apart, I agree that we have taken the silai kalAchAram a bit too far. Government movie funding, tax exemption for Tamil names ellAm kadai thEngAiyai eduthu theru piLLayArukku udaikkira kadhai dhAn
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From: c4ramesh on 3rd May 2007 10:38 PM [Full View]
pretty ordinary, the links link doesn't work. Originally Posted by joe
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:41 PM [Full View]
I dint like shivaji's big statue at that place in the centre of the road while the smaller statues of great leaders are hidden by tree Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
makkaLukkAga seyyuradhunnA enna ? Originally Posted by nilavu
seyyura vElaikku kaasu vaanginA andha vElaikku madhippu illAma pOyirumA ?
Sir CV Raman must have been drawing a monthly salary from the University of Calcutta while conducting his research. So do we disacount his work completely ? Then why are we eager to discount works of film folks ? Just because their huge salaries are eye-sores ?
That apart, I agree that we have taken the silai kalAchAram a bit too far. Government movie funding, tax exemption for Tamil names ellAm kadai thEngAiyai eduthu theru piLLayArukku udaikkira kadhai dhAn
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 10:43 PM [Full View]
appadiya..ungaloda sernthu naanum sirichukkiren Originally Posted by c4ramesh
pretty ordinary, the links link doesn't work. Originally Posted by joe
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:48 PM [Full View]
saw some scenes in sun tv!
just the younger age periyar scenes..
sathyaraj's more common mannerisms and look ....
he should have changed his mannerisms...cant say just by tv program...may have performed greatly also
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From: Roshan on 3rd May 2007 10:48 PM [Full View]
athukku Sivaji ennappA paNNuvaar Originally Posted by thimuru
I dint like shivaji's big statue at that place in the centre of the road while the smaller statues of great leaders are hidden by tree Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
makkaLukkAga seyyuradhunnA enna ? Originally Posted by nilavu
seyyura vElaikku kaasu vaanginA andha vElaikku madhippu illAma pOyirumA ?
Sir CV Raman must have been drawing a monthly salary from the University of Calcutta while conducting his research. So do we disacount his work completely ? Then why are we eager to discount works of film folks ? Just because their huge salaries are eye-sores ?
That apart, I agree that we have taken the silai kalAchAram a bit too far. Government movie funding, tax exemption for Tamil names ellAm kadai thEngAiyai eduthu theru piLLayArukku udaikkira kadhai dhAn
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From: thimuru on 3rd May 2007 10:49 PM [Full View]
adhuvum sarithan
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From: P_R on 3rd May 2007 10:52 PM [Full View]
The gallery slideshow is too fast and the pics are small. This gallery is better. Originally Posted by joe
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From: joe on 3rd May 2007 11:00 PM [Full View]
Nanri PR Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
The gallery slideshow is too fast and the pics are small. This gallery is better. Originally Posted by joe
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From: NOV on 4th May 2007 06:41 AM [Full View]
cool down bro. Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by NOV
not that I am going to waste time watching it anyway....
forget abt the film, even one song from the movie hurts my sensitivities, and to further accentuate my point, the song is BANNED in our govt radio station, so there you are.
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From: joe on 4th May 2007 06:47 AM [Full View]
oh! sari sari..I got it Originally Posted by NOV
cool down bro. Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by NOV
not that I am going to waste time watching it anyway....
forget abt the film, even one song from the movie hurts my sensitivities, and to further accentuate my point, the song is BANNED in our govt radio station, so there you are.
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From: NOV on 4th May 2007 06:54 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
oh! sari sari..I got it
paavam draupadhi
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From: joe on 4th May 2007 06:58 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by joe
oh! sari sari..I got it
paavam draupadhi
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From: P_R on 4th May 2007 07:51 AM [Full View]
ungaLukku mattum dhaan idhu thONum Originally Posted by NOV
Originally Posted by joe
oh! sari sari..I got it
paavam draupadhi
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From: NOV on 4th May 2007 08:13 AM [Full View]
Digression///// Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
ungaLukku mattum dhaan idhu thONum
but many ppl are already catching on. oru udhaaranam - swathy. :P
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From: MrJudge on 4th May 2007 01:51 PM [Full View]
Happened to see the song coming on tv, something similar to naan siriththal deepavali song situation. I liked the song instantly, a very good attempt by VS. I liked Rajasekaran's two earlier films, hope I will be happy this time too
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From: groucho070 on 4th May 2007 03:34 PM [Full View]
So many opinions...most even before seeing the movie.
So, I want to make a few too before seeing the movie:
Periyar the movie: Bold move to film it, considering the subject is not a money-making one. And it stars one of my favourite actor. I'm definitely watching.
Hell, even NT wanted to play Periyar.
Periyar the person: HE played a large part, indirectly, in the formation of the DMK - Anna was his follower. Then, MGR too. I don't know politics, but DMK people who were his followers has contributed plenty to the film industry.
Kannadhasan wrote wonderful songs in retaliation to DMK people, and against Periyar's philosophy.
All these gave plenty of colour to the industry; thus the golden age of Tamil cinema.
Good or bad, Periyar has an indirect influence on the film industry. It's the film industry that took me to Periyar.
I am definitely watching the movie. Too bad, they are not showing it here. Have to wait for DVD/VCD.
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From: ThalaNass on 4th May 2007 03:45 PM [Full View]
Groucho sir, samall correction.. they show the movie here, in PJ state cinema.. starting from tomorrow it seems..
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From: Roshan on 4th May 2007 04:41 PM [Full View]
Well said Groucho !! And many cine personalities including the great KH is a Periyar follower. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: NOV on 6th May 2007 07:55 AM [Full View]
yes nass is right. state PJ is playjng, but only 1 show a day. judging from the crowd y'day better see it fast... Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: MrJudge on 6th May 2007 12:11 PM [Full View]
Watched Periyar, after watching it, my respect for him has gone up. I haven't read his biography / books about him, so many events were news to me. Thanks to Gnana rajasekaran for bringing his life to the silver screen. It is a pity that a great person like him is going down the history without any trace. These politicians are responsible for this.
Can anyone recommend any good books about him?
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From: joe on 7th May 2007 06:30 AM [Full View]
Periyar
Movie
Periyar
Director
Gnana Rajasekaran
Music
Vidyasagar
Cast
Sathyaraj, Jyothirmayi, Kushboo, Swarnamalya, Vennira Aadai Nirmala
By Moviebuzz
Gnana Rajasekharan's Periyar is a history lesson meant to educate and inform us about the legendary leader, social reformer and founding father of the Dravidian movement in Tamilnadu- E.V Ramasamy Naicker.
Rajasekharan has done a decent job in presenting the majestic life and times of Periyar, with a brilliant performance from Sathyaraj in the title role. What makes it convincing is that the director has conveyed dramatic tension and an underlining of the humane moments in a very subtle manner.
Please note that the film has been funded by a Dravidian government and the producers are Periyar sympathizers. So it is but natural for Rajasekharan to make it with politically correct brush strokes. Compared to his earlier films, like Bharati and other arty movies, this time he has made a film within the Tamil commercial format.
The film traces the life and times of Periyar from his youth to his death. There is a lot of heroism in the character of Periyar, a crusader and reformer who stood for his ideals, at the same time was the messiah of the poor and downtrodden. A man, who was in touching distance of power, but never hankered after the spoils of office. Which modern day politician will shun power and all its heady comforts to be with the man on the streets?
Ramasamy (Sathyaraj) is lovingly called Rama by his father, a merchant and his mother (Manorama) a devot Hindu and stickler for the caste system prevailing at that time in Erode. The young Ramasamy is aghast at the social discrimination based on caste system prevailing at that time. He becomes a crusader against social injustice and encourages widow remarriages, entry of lower caste people into his household, questioning upper caste hold over the society. Finally due to his pro-active stance to change the society and his rationalists beliefs, he is kicked out from home by his dad.
Rama goes to Kasi where he comes across god men and priests who are living in debauchery. He finds that only Brahmins have access to holy places and all offices of power. Soon he returns home after his father persuades him to join his family business.
A transformation happens in his life, and he decides to take up the causes of the downtrodden. His hard work and popularity pays off as he becomes the chairman of Erode Municipality. Seeing the rise of the young man the Congress party under C.Rajagopalachari takes him to their fold. But soon he gets disenchanted with Congress and their policies, especially their policy on caste.
In a famous speech at the Kanchipuram Congress meet, he and his supporters break away and form a self respect movement. The screenplay touches upon Periyar's political and social beliefs, and occasionally stops to glance at his private life with a supportive wife Nagamma (Jyotirmayi) who dies when he is away doing political work and the young woman Maniammai (Kushboo) he married in his old age who becomes more a companion are woven into the story.
His protégé Annadurai(S.S Stanly) and Karunanidhi have difference of opinion about his second marriage and go on their own and form Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK), which captures power, piggy back riding on his ideals and self respect movement he launched. Later Anna and Karunanidhi acknowledges it and the film ends with his death, as he becomes the icon of the Dravidian movement.
Rajasekharan has eulogized Periyar and has highlighted his role as a social crusader and reformer who brought the change in Tamil society. It is an intimately scaled biography, where the warts in Periyar's character have been played down. The nearly three hour film have all significant events in his life, with Vidyasagar's soothing period music, Vairamuthu's stirring lyrics, Lenin's editing, and sophisticated camera work of Thankar Bachchan.
Above all, Sathyaraj in the eponymous role is excellent and deserves a National Award. The actor has got into the skin of the character, to light a central flame and make it work throughout the film. Kushboo is apt as Maniamma, and Jyothirmayi as the first wife is a revelation.
Even small characters like Stanly as Anna, Kumar as Rajaji and other look alikes of famous leaders have done full justice to their roles.
Verdict: Pathbreaking
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From: MrJudge on 7th May 2007 01:09 PM [Full View]
joe,
haven't you seen the movie yet?? I would say this is a must see movie.
rajasaranam,
where are you? have you seen it or not? Looking forward to your comments.
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From: NOV on 8th May 2007 08:08 PM [Full View]
Kindly adhere to the merits/demerits of the film. NO MORE discussions on Periyar or his ideologies, as such discussions are beyond the scope of the Hub.
Action, including banning, will be taken against detractors, especially on those who indulge in personal abuse.
Strictly no more digressions!
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From: NOV on 8th May 2007 08:10 PM [Full View]
While cleaning this thread, some relevant posts got deleted inadvertently. Apologies.
Pls post them again.
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From: Nerd on 8th May 2007 08:24 PM [Full View]
How is the movie doing commercially? It will not release in the USA for sure
Justu missu.. I thought I will read through the pages after my meeting
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From: thilak4life on 8th May 2007 08:26 PM [Full View]
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From: Nakeeran on 8th May 2007 08:52 PM [Full View]
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From: nemesis786 on 8th May 2007 08:57 PM [Full View]
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From: thilak4life on 8th May 2007 08:58 PM [Full View]
"Above all, Sathyaraj in the eponymous role is excellent and deserves a National Award. The actor has got into the skin of the character, to light a central flame and make it work throughout the film. Kushboo is apt as Maniamma, and Jyothirmayi as the first wife is a revelation."
Looks like a deja-vu. I think the review is strikingly similar to Bharathi's review sometime back! The review claimed that Sayaji Shinde deserved a national award and Devayani was 'apt' as 'Chellamal.'
AND SathyaRaj shouldn't have compared Vijay to MGR. And he still claims to be another MGR's fan.
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From: Jabroni on 8th May 2007 08:58 PM [Full View]
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From: Nerd on 8th May 2007 09:00 PM [Full View]
Groucho's deleted post:
This is the movie. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If Hollywood makes a movie about Hitler, everyone goes, watches, applauds on performances, praises the director's vision, and they do well financially or not, it up to the audience. There were films on Stalin too.
This is the bottomline guys. There were movies that glorified hitler, showing his humane side and those were critically acclaimed because people appreciated the MOVIE
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From: joe on 8th May 2007 09:03 PM [Full View]
Real on reel - Periyar
Realistic and off-beat movies have always been a passion for director Gnanarajasekaran. He is one of the very few directors in Tamil cinema, to strive hard towards making such kind of movies. Proving this, his earlier ventures Moga Mul and Bharathy won critical acclaims. In the same path, Gnanarajasekaran has now come out with Periyar, a film potraying the life of the rationalist leader and the father of Dravidian movement, E V R Periyar.
With Sathyaraj playing the title role, the movie takes us to the times of Periyar, who was part and parcel of social awakening in Tamilnadu. Gnanarajasekaran's sincere attempts to chronicle the history of the rationalist leader who fought against social evils without prejudice can be seen in each and every frame of the movie.
Sathyaraj, understanding the responsibility heaped on his shoulders, has lived up to expectations. This movie could even fetch him a State award, as it was the actor's hardwork that stands as a backbone for the film.
Kushboo plays Maniammai, while Jyothirmayee dons the roe of Nagammai. Both the actresses fit wel to their characters. In short, the movie is a tribute to the rationalist leader and a history to the younger generation.
Periyar - Milestone.
Cast: Sathyaraj, Jyothirmayi, Kushboo, Swarnamalya, Vennira Aadai Nirmala
Direction:Gnanarajasekaran
http://www.chennaivision.com/cinevis...ws/periyar.asp
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From: joe on 8th May 2007 09:06 PM [Full View]
Periyar… is not an ordinary cinema. Watching the movie is the real homage to the leader who dedicated his entire life in providing succour and hope to the downtrodden people.
Verdict: An extraordinary film about a great leader!
http://justsamachar.com/entertainment/periyar-review/
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From: Sanjeevi on 8th May 2007 09:06 PM [Full View]
thread title is "Satyaraj in Periyar" to discuss about Satyaraj and his acting?
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From: NOV on 8th May 2007 09:07 PM [Full View]
Looks like my warning is not clear enough.
Guess its time for action, henceforth.
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From: TAURUS on 8th May 2007 09:30 PM [Full View]
film uuthikichuppa. yennamO padamnu sonnango, naanum gulpies kuutitu pOnen. inna padam ithu. periyarai nallavara sitharichirkiraanunga. pala idangalila unmai engira vaal veLLiyai maRaichu, saayam poochi, intha manungala eemaathikiraangO.
sathiyaraj thavira vEra manusanunga illaya. ivar kural maatha maatEnu adam pidikiraar. antha mookkai poththi kaththura kuralilaye, padathai thaLLeetu pOraaru. ithu ivanunga solra maathir onnum path-breaking padam illaippa. mandai kaaya vaikira padamnu sonnanginna, naan oththukkuvEn.
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 08:39 AM [Full View]
Finally. Someone go it right. This is the reason I started the thread. So far, reviews on his performance is good. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 08:41 AM [Full View]
what abt his voice modulation? Originally Posted by groucho070
Finally. Someone go it right. This is the reason I started the thread. So far, reviews on his performance is good. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 08:44 AM [Full View]
Yeah. I wonder. The dude before me complained about it.
I did fear that he might mimic. He did do that once in Amaithi Padai, mimicking Periyar. But when it comes to actual acting, less mimicking is better.
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 09:30 AM [Full View]
Groucho,
I have read many reviews (Yet to watch the movie) and nobody complaint on sathiyaraj's voice modulation .
I heard ,in the first half ,you can see sathiyaraj there ,but in the second half ,when sathiyaraj comes as old periyar with thaadi getup ,it is almost sathiyaraj gone and periyar is infront of our eyes and very rarely you can see sathiyaraj.
Even in the first half getup ,I feel it is because we always see old periyar images ,not the younger periyar images ..But Periyar's close assosiates like Kalainjar ,Veeramani confirmed that sathiyaraj's potrayal of young periyar also comes to max perfection .
Anyway ,I heard Sathiyaraj lived in Periyar character ..Hats off to Sathiyaraj
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 09:46 AM [Full View]
periyar was born in 1879....kalaingar was born in 1924 Originally Posted by joe
Groucho,
I
Even in the first half getup ,I feel it is because we always see old periyar images ,not the younger periyar images ..But Periyar's close assosiates like Kalainjar ,Veeramani confirmed that sathiyaraj's potrayal of young periyar also comes to max perfection .
Anyway ,I heard Sathiyaraj lived in Periyar character ..Hats off to Sathiyaraj
considering kalaingar joined politics in 14 years....periyar was nearly 60 when kalaingar would have met him!
then how come kalaingar know abt younger periyar
kaamedy kaamedy
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From: cancer on 9th May 2007 09:52 AM [Full View]
Good Observation Originally Posted by thimuru
periyar was born in 1879....kalaingar was born in 1924 Originally Posted by joe
Groucho,
I
Even in the first half getup ,I feel it is because we always see old periyar images ,not the younger periyar images ..But Periyar's close assosiates like Kalainjar ,Veeramani confirmed that sathiyaraj's potrayal of young periyar also comes to max perfection .
Anyway ,I heard Sathiyaraj lived in Periyar character ..Hats off to Sathiyaraj
considering kalaingar joined politics in 14 years....periyar was nearly 60 when kalaingar would have met him!
then how come kalaingar know abt younger periyar
kaamedy kaamedy
yesterday watched one song in TV ! Manusaalai yaaru padaichaan voi... saamy ia yaaru padaichaan voi nnu etho oru song...
that song looks like trade mark Sathyraj song.. , Periyaar maathriyaana oru effect varave illai oru velai periyaarnna vayasanaa get up la namma paatha thinalayo.. 
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From: c4ramesh on 9th May 2007 09:52 AM [Full View]
Yappa saami Photo onnu kalvi paturikinglaa? Originally Posted by thimuru
periyar was born in 1879....kalaingar was born in 1924 Originally Posted by joe
Groucho,
I
Even in the first half getup ,I feel it is because we always see old periyar images ,not the younger periyar images ..But Periyar's close assosiates like Kalainjar ,Veeramani confirmed that sathiyaraj's potrayal of young periyar also comes to max perfection .
Anyway ,I heard Sathiyaraj lived in Periyar character ..Hats off to Sathiyaraj
considering kalaingar joined politics in 14 years....periyar was nearly 60 when kalaingar would have met him!
then how come kalaingar know abt younger periyar
kaamedy kaamedy
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 09:55 AM [Full View]
c4 ramesh...to say the portrayal is good we must know their activities during younger days!...not just photos...
why...we also could see young age periyar photos...could we analyse abt the originality abt protrayal?
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 10:08 AM [Full View]
Kalainjar and Veeramani knows periyar better than anybody still alive...period.
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 10:14 AM [Full View]
but they doesnt know abt his younger days for sure! Originally Posted by joe
because they know him more than anyone else...we cant accept that they know abt his younger days.period
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From: c4ramesh on 9th May 2007 10:15 AM [Full View]
there where many who could have told kalnigar about how periyar was in his younger day, Even peryiar could have told them this.. Originally Posted by thimuru
c4 ramesh...to say the portrayal is good we must know their activities during younger days!...not just photos...
why...we also could see young age periyar photos...could we analyse abt the originality abt protrayal?
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 10:16 AM [Full View]
like how he movedd his eyes,legs,how fast he walked etc? Originally Posted by c4ramesh
there where many who could have told kalnigar about how periyar was in his younger day, Even peryiar could have told them this.. Originally Posted by thimuru
c4 ramesh...to say the portrayal is good we must know their activities during younger days!...not just photos...
why...we also could see young age periyar photos...could we analyse abt the originality abt protrayal?
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 10:18 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thimuru
Who cares 
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 10:19 AM [Full View]
i dint ask u care and post a reply for my post! Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by thimuru
Who cares
why did u care to reply my post
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From: rockydeva on 9th May 2007 10:20 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by cancer
yesterday watched one song in TV ! Manusaalai yaaru padaichaan voi... saamy ia yaaru padaichaan voi nnu etho oru song...
that song looks like trade mark Sathyraj song.. , Periyaar maathriyaana oru effect varave illai oru velai periyaarnna vayasanaa get up la namma paatha thinalayo.. , i got the same feeling shiva..
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 10:22 AM [Full View]
Why don't you stop quoting me and reply then. Originally Posted by thimuru
i dint ask u care and post a reply for my post!
why did u care to reply my post
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 10:23 AM [Full View]
u only said "who cares"...not me Originally Posted by joe
Why don't you stop quoting me and reply then. Originally Posted by thimuru
i dint ask u care and post a reply for my post!
why did u care to reply my post
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From: rockydeva on 9th May 2007 10:24 AM [Full View]
joe Vs thimuru
inna nadakuthu inga
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From: c4ramesh on 9th May 2007 10:33 AM [Full View]
Don't you talk about how fast you where in your younger days? I don't think one can mimic his style of walking and movement of eyes until you have a video. So that would been impossible. Originally Posted by thimuru
like how he movedd his eyes,legs,how fast he walked etc? Originally Posted by c4ramesh
there where many who could have told kalnigar about how periyar was in his younger day, Even peryiar could have told them this.. Originally Posted by thimuru
c4 ramesh...to say the portrayal is good we must know their activities during younger days!...not just photos...
why...we also could see young age periyar photos...could we analyse abt the originality abt protrayal?
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 10:42 AM [Full View]
THERE YOU ARE!...THATS MY POINT! Originally Posted by c4ramesh
Don't you talk about how fast you where in your younger days? I don't think one can mimic his style of walking and movement of eyes until you have a video. So that would been impossible. Originally Posted by thimuru
like how he movedd his eyes,legs,how fast he walked etc? Originally Posted by c4ramesh
there where many who could have told kalnigar about how periyar was in his younger day, Even peryiar could have told them this.. Originally Posted by thimuru
c4 ramesh...to say the portrayal is good we must know their activities during younger days!...not just photos...
why...we also could see young age periyar photos...could we analyse abt the originality abt protrayal?
noone would know abt periyars younger days!...so kalaingar and veeramani approving his performance as accurate is funny.
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 11:18 AM [Full View]
Thimiru sar, when you make movies based on real character, sometimes you have to have creative license.
What about other biographic movies made in Hollywood? Gandhi won Ben Kingsley Best Actor award. Avaru enna Gandhi kooda poorattam nadathunaara...for him to be exact.
What about characters before our time. Those from sixteen, fourteen, twelth century. How do you play Jesus Christ?
Authenticity is one. But how does it affect you emotionally, that matters. The film probably brought Kalaignar back to his days of struggle. It's that emotion that got him excited and endorse Sathyaraj's performance.
I still can't talk much as I have not seen it. Grr.....
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 11:20 AM [Full View]
still u dont understand!...I dint blame sathyaraj here...its impossible for him to portray the exact younger periyar..i know! Originally Posted by groucho070
what i say is ....kalaingar claiming the younger days portrayal is accurate is funny....just like someone who hadnt moved with gandhi in younger days tells that the portrayal of gandhi is accurate!
i dint blame sathyaraj ...
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From: crajkumar_be on 9th May 2007 11:29 AM [Full View]
pattai naamam , rudraatcha kottai .. still praising periyar. santhosam thaan.. :P Originally Posted by joe
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 11:43 AM [Full View]
Okay. I got it. Yeah, Kalaignar should not have said the younger day portrayal is accurate. He should have said, "Sathyaraj showed us how Periyar could have been in his younger days and he did well". Originally Posted by thimuru
still u dont understand!...I dint blame sathyaraj here...its impossible for him to portray the exact younger periyar..i know! Originally Posted by groucho070
what i say is ....kalaingar claiming the younger days portrayal is accurate is funny....just like someone who hadnt moved with gandhi in younger days tells that the portrayal of gandhi is accurate!
i dint blame sathyaraj ...
Okay, hope things got clarified now. Truce.
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 12:00 PM [Full View]
truce
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 12:28 PM [Full View]
Again controversy
from Kumudam Reporter
Veluprabakaran blames on Periyar movie. I think, he want all the people who watched the movie should have become atheist? and hence he dissatisfied.
Though EVKS Ilangovan satisfied, he said some scenes was wrong
But Gnanarajasekaran reply to Veluprabakaran was good. He said, "i didn't try to make periyar film to show periyar was an atheist. I wanted to reveal other sides of periyar".
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 12:30 PM [Full View]
Veluprabakaran wants to become Periyar, not want to do a film about Periyar (he planned once) or on his philosophies.
Who's EVKS Ilangovan?
Here's something with some good words. Hope it's not a repost.
http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/08/stor...0803760200.htm
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 12:36 PM [Full View]
Aaha ithenna koothu? he has periyar's gene and he is periyar's grandson. Don't you know that he was TN congress leader before GK Vaasan. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 12:38 PM [Full View]
EVKS Ilangovan is a congressman ,son of EVK Sampath ,who was once a strong DMK leader ,but later quit DMK with Kannadasan and joined congress.EVKSampath is Periyar's brother's son ,so actually EVKS Ilangovan is Periyar's grandson.He was a TN congress commeete president. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 12:39 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by groucho070
Those Four Letters are enough for this question !
/ dig( one of my favorite politician in the younger generation) - wish this doesn't generate any other fight ) / dig
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 12:42 PM [Full View]
Thanks Sanjeevi and Joe. I have read about EVK Sambath in Kannadhasan's Vanavaasam and Manavaasam.
I don't know too much about Periyar...apart from what the film industry has led me to. I gathered what I know from some of the books by others. Bits and pieces.
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 12:43 PM [Full View]
dig/ Originally Posted by selvakumar
Originally Posted by groucho070
Those Four Letters are enough for this question !
/ dig( one of my favorite politician in the younger generation) - wish this doesn't generate any other fight ) / dig
Neenga Ilagovana sollureengaLa allathu avar appava sollureengaLa?
/dig
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 12:44 PM [Full View]
Ilangovan Originally Posted by joe
dig/
Neenga Ilagovana sollureengaLa allathu avar appava sollureengaLa?
/dig since I was answering the question on him
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 12:45 PM [Full View]
Sanjeevi, Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Aaha ithenna koothu? he has periyar's gene and he is periyar's grandson. Don't you know that he was TN congress leader before GK Vaasan. Originally Posted by groucho070
Groucho is not from India .So quite obvious he didn't know this.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 12:51 PM [Full View]
First of all, TN la irukkira neraya perukkae ithu theriyaathunnu nenaikiraen Originally Posted by joe
Sanjeevi,
Groucho is not from India .So quite obvious he didn't know this.
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 12:55 PM [Full View]
I guess arguments about accuracy do affect non-Indian citizens like me, because film medium is one of our window's to India. Originally Posted by joe
Sanjeevi, Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Aaha ithenna koothu? he has periyar's gene and he is periyar's grandson. Don't you know that he was TN congress leader before GK Vaasan. Originally Posted by groucho070
Groucho is not from India .So quite obvious he didn't know this.
I am more interested in your review, Joe, since you know a bit of (actually a lot) history of that time and you can give us, non-Indian citizens, few pointers of it's accuracy, as well as the usual comments of a film critic.
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 12:58 PM [Full View]
Groucho,
I will do this saturday when I back to sing ,provided Periyar movie manage to run until saturday
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 01:00 PM [Full View]
/digression
consider maniratnam directing this movie.
saami
edhukku
aamaa
pakutharivu
vengaayam
*/digression
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 01:01 PM [Full View]
Neenga innum padam paarkalayaa Originally Posted by joe
Groucho,
I will do this saturday when I back to sing ,provided Periyar movie manage to run until saturday
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From: nemesis786 on 9th May 2007 01:01 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thimuru
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 01:02 PM [Full View]
Yes, he hit the bull's eye. After watching the movie, it is easy to realise how wrong all the medias were about portraying or glorifing only one of his aspects. Gnana Rajasekaran deserves a pat not brickbats from these people for bringing out this movie. This movie will change the perception we had so far about him. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Though VS came out good in this movie, I missed IR a lot. Did IR watch it? I believe he missed a golden opportunity here. IMO He is the loser in this case.
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 01:06 PM [Full View]
It released in singapore only last saturday .I am out of town,will be back on friday and watch it on the same day Originally Posted by selvakumar
Neenga innum padam paarkalayaa Originally Posted by joe
Groucho,
I will do this saturday when I back to sing ,provided Periyar movie manage to run until saturday
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 01:10 PM [Full View]
//dig
One more info on EVKS Ilangovan : His mother Sulochana Sampantha is ADMK ,was a minister in MGR's misnistry
//dig
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 01:43 PM [Full View]
Nope, Ilaiyaraja has rights to take own decision to do what he want. Unless IR's work affect anybody or anything, we can't blame him. Originally Posted by MrJudge
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EVKS Ilangovan is guite famouse mainly because his bold speech, "Athiradi, thadaladi pechu".
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From: groucho070 on 9th May 2007 01:48 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by thimuru
I think he can make good short film. I can't resist. Here's another scene from imagine MR movie of Periyar.
Periyar: Niruttanum...ellatthaiyum niruttanum.
People: Ethai. Ethai Nirutthanum.
Periyar: Niruttanum. Samy kumpidaratha niruttanum.
People: Mudiyathu Niruttha mudiyathu.
Periyar: Venggaiyam.
People: Bajji.
What happens next is too explicit and deragatory that I shudder to think about it.
Sorry for the digression guys.
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From: crajkumar_be on 9th May 2007 01:51 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by groucho070
I think he can make good short film. I can't resist. Here's another scene from imagine MR movie of Periyar.
Periyar: Niruttanum...ellatthaiyum niruttanum.
People: Ethai. Ethai Nirutthanum.
Periyar: Niruttanum. Samy kumpidaratha niruttanum.
People: Mudiyathu Niruttha mudiyathu.
Periyar: Venggaiyam.
People: Bajji.
What happens next is too explicit and deragatory that I shudder to think about it.
Sorry for the digression guys.
I'm curious!
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 01:51 PM [Full View]
He has every right to turn down/accept any projects. But as a IR fan, I think he is the loser for missing out this project. If he watches the movie, he will realise his mistake for sure. And I don't think it will end here, Gnana rajasekaran will never go back to him for his future projects because of the comments he made against him. Let him compose Ajantas, Mayakkanadis instead Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 01:58 PM [Full View]
MrJudge, I don't think IR will watch periyar movie since he is a samiyar. Considertin, IR to compose such kind of biography movies, what happened to Kamaraj? have you watched it? or even have you listened the songs?
BTW Kamaraj did not well in BO, don't know about periyar
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 02:00 PM [Full View]
mr.judge
kamalhaasan,bala,cheran goes to ilayaraja
gnanarajasekaran mattumthan ir kitta ponara enna!
how can ir compose a film on periyar...he is a believer of GOD...have u heard the song lyrics?
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 02:03 PM [Full View]
Where is rajasaranam? He argumented strongly that IR should have been accepted to do Music for periyar film in IR section.
But as per IR's reply came in JV once, IR blame Gnana Rajasekaran for GR's approch
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 02:09 PM [Full View]
I loved Kamaraj esp the song "Naadu paarthathundaa". I don't find any special mention on the music of Periyaar. so, I feel IR would have done a better job. Again, as you said IT IS HIS PRIORITY. But I have a different opinion after reading his clarificatins in JUnior Vikatan. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:12 PM [Full View]
In his JV interview ,He denied the claim that he refused the project because of periyar and he praised periyar ..The reason given was his difference with GnagaRajasekaran. Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:17 PM [Full View]
Cha..what a leader ..I have VDC and watched it many times ,each times I shed tears. Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: Nakeeran on 9th May 2007 02:21 PM [Full View]
Thimiru
IR refused to do for this movie bcaz of the diff. of opinion ( impression ) about Gnanasekaran.
He had given a detailed interview earlier in JV.
Besides, if someone is not keen to do, better avoid. Else , you will not get the desired output .
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:34 PM [Full View]
MrJudge,
what is your opinion on sathiyaRaj's performance?
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 02:36 PM [Full View]
I have not read the JV article but I think the differences of opinion would have arisen because VM being the lyricist. I'm sure IR would have wanted VM to be replaced if he were to handle the music but then again - other than VM I dont think any one can do justice with the lyrics for a movie like Periyar and GR wouldn't have wanted to compromise on that. IR vs VM ego clash is a well known issue in the industry.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 02:37 PM [Full View]
I never said that he rejected it since he is following something which is against Periyaar's policies. Infact, I supported him since it his basic right to decide whether he should compose a movie or not. Originally Posted by joe
In his JV interview ,He denied the claim that he refused the project because of periyar and he praised periyar ..The reason given was his difference with GnagaRajasekaran. Originally Posted by selvakumar
But in his JV interview, he put the blame on GR who apparently replied with enough dignity. IR is doubting GR on giving a worthy movie in Periyaar. (Didn't they work for Bharathi and couldn't he remember that) It looked like a "Eye Wash Effort" from IR.
Here is my reply on the same in IR ALBUMS long time back
P.S: konjam lengthy post thaan.. Plz tolerate Originally Posted by selvakumar
As Nakeeran pointed out, doesn't he belong to everyone. Even if he refuse to compose the music for EVR, I don't think it is much of a thing which is damn serious and requires new ID. I laughed at the fact that this thread too carries pretty much stuff which exist in other threads under TF :P ! did you read the statement of JS in the BOX? He clearly says that he approached him with the neat script. IR had accepted that he had composed for lot ofjunks and he wouldn't resist in composing a music for EVR movie? Appadi Interest irukkiravar.. indha padathaukku Kelvi ketkaama music potrukanum.
After all, it is a chance to compose or paying tribute to that man as well. It is only IR who can do that ! He missed it with his own assumptions on the director. Tell me... Had it not the director who has approached IR thinking that he is the man who can deliver the right thing for this movie ? Appadi mattam thatti paarkirathu thappu illaya
BTW, Why do you guys expect IR to think in the way you people expect ? He is also a human being with his own set of priorities ! :P
IR had lost yet another gem ! Can't IR make the director to correct the script if he feels it to be a commercial ? BTW, EVR ah vachu masala padamaa edukka mudiyum.. enna kelvi yo idu
Very True. I am 100% sure that THIS MOVIE too wont let me down.Cha..what a leader ..I have VDC and watched it many times ,each times I shed tears.
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:37 PM [Full View]
This is also an apt point. Originally Posted by Roshan
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:40 PM [Full View]
Selva,
I didn't misunderstand you .I just quoted your line to put my opinion also.
and For People who says How come IR compose a movie about non-beleiver when he is a beleiver ....Kamarajar also a non-beleiver.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 02:43 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
I think that short line of mine might have made you to post that !
And Roshan's point seems to be valid.
/ dig
May I know right from which movies IR-VM ego clash started? & why
/ dig
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 02:46 PM [Full View]
That increases my doubt further on VM matter. That should be the main - if not only reason for all those issues. Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:49 PM [Full View]
Muthal mariyathai Originally Posted by selvakumar
/ dig
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 02:50 PM [Full View]
vEnaam Selva Originally Posted by selvakumar
rattha kalari aayidum inga Moderator vERa kaiyyila latthiyOda suthuraaru
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 02:55 PM [Full View]
Roshan,
IF that problem is that much complicated, then let us leave it since this thread had already gone to several directions.
Thanks for ringing the bell. Let me stop here on speaking about IR here
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 02:57 PM [Full View]
Selva,
bangalore-la Periyar padam release agalliya?
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 03:04 PM [Full View]
Can I use some bad words against VM? Originally Posted by Roshan
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 03:06 PM [Full View]
Here they have a VIRTUAL RULE imposed that tamil movies should not be released within 3 - 4 weeks. (Thanks to the Gundaas) Most of the theatres are screening Hindi and English movies. Paruthiveeran released here after 50 days Originally Posted by joe
Films like Maayakannaadi, UU, chennai - 28 etc didn't release at all.Even if they release in the near future, chances are very less that people will see them. Actually, govt is giving full support for screening tamil movies. But theatres don't screen them since they are the ones at the receiving end.
I am getting since Balaji theatre is their main target (known for screening only tamil movies). We are buying illegal prints of the movies for Rs.40/- & we are seeing the films. I am not sure whether this movier will come in such form as well
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 03:07 PM [Full View]
But he did not motivate others and anti-god principle was not his boat or even a hand-kerchief Originally Posted by joe
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 03:12 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
But he did not motivate others and anti-god principle was not his boat or even a hand-kerchief Originally Posted by joe
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 03:13 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Here they have a VIRTUAL RULE imposed that tamil movies should not be released within 3 - 4 weeks. (Thanks to the Gundaas) Most of the theatres are screening Hindi and English movies. Paruthiveeran released here after 50 days Originally Posted by joe
Films like Maayakannaadi, UU, chennai - 28 etc didn't release at all.Even if they release in the near future, chances are very less that people will see them. Actually, govt is giving full support for screening tamil movies. But theatres don't screen them since they are the ones at the receiving end.
I am getting since Balaji theatre is their main target (known for screening only tamil movies). We are buying illegal prints of the movies for Rs.40/- & we are seeing the films. I am not sure whether this movier will come in such form as well
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From: MADDY on 9th May 2007 03:25 PM [Full View]
illegal prints of movies?? Originally Posted by selvakumar
Here they have a VIRTUAL RULE imposed that tamil movies should not be released within 3 - 4 weeks. (Thanks to the Gundaas) Most of the theatres are screening Hindi and English movies. Paruthiveeran released here after 50 days Films like Maayakannaadi, UU, chennai - 28 etc didn't release at all.Even if they release in the near future, chances are very less that people will see them. Actually, govt is giving full support for screening tamil movies. But theatres don't screen them since they are the ones at the receiving end.
I am getting since Balaji theatre is their main target (known for screening only tamil movies). We are buying illegal prints of the movies for Rs.40/- & we are seeing the films. I am not sure whether this movier will come in such form as well or illegal CDs???
anyways, they could have released this movie since Periyar is a kannadiga by birth......adhu seri, ivangalakku ivalavu logic-ellam irundha yaen indha kashtam.......
but shivaji will surely break this "virtual rule"
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 03:29 PM [Full View]
Sottai.. sorry.. Parattai had already breaken this rule. PEAS released here in the first day itself Originally Posted by MADDY
but shivaji will surely break this "virtual rule"
Strange exception. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if Sivaji follows PEAS
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 03:33 PM [Full View]
Well, if he doesn't watch it, he will be a BIG LOSER not just a loser. In this movie as Rajasekaran rightly said, he has brought out unknown events of Periyar. Let me quote a scene from it, Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Periyar after returning from Kasi becomes the Chairman of Erode and working as a temple nirvagasthar also. After he took over the position, the temple which was running on loss makes profit. And one guy asks him "neenga thaan samiye kumbudaatha aal achche, eppadi kovil nirvagam panreenga". He replies "ennoda thanipatta nambikkai vera, intha kovil-a nirvagam panrathu vera". He was so honest about what he was doing. I hope IR watches this movie, particularily this scene and realises the costly mistake he has made.
Ofcourse, I have. But IMO, Kamaraj was an amateur attempt compared to Periyar movie. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
It is too early to predict the BO fate. I am happy that my tax money spent on this movie instead of some junk 'don't drint / stop AIDS' awareness movies. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
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From: MADDY on 9th May 2007 03:36 PM [Full View]
maybe it was Jogi's remake Originally Posted by selvakumar
Sottai.. sorry.. Parattai had already breaken this rule. PEAS released here in the first day itself Originally Posted by MADDY
but shivaji will surely break this "virtual rule" Strange exception. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if Sivaji follows PEAS
(selvaraghavan thambi sottaya - sollave illa sorry parrattaya .....edho paa annanukku motta podama irundha seri )
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 03:38 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by MrJudge
Well, if he doesn't watch it, he will be a BIG LOSER not just a loser. In this movie as Rajasekaran rightly said, he has brought out unknown events of Periyar. Let me quote a scene from it, Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Periyar after returning from Kasi becomes the Chairman of Erode and working as a temple nirvagasthar also. After he took over the position, the temple which was running on loss makes profit. And one guy asks him "neenga thaan samiye kumbudaatha aal achche, eppadi kovil nirvagam panreenga". He replies "ennoda thanipatta nambikkai vera, intha kovil-a nirvagam panrathu vera". He was so honest about what he was doing. I hope IR watches this movie, particularily this scene and realises the costly mistake he has made.
But ,The allegation of IR refused to do Periyar because of periyar principles is rejected by IR himself ..He made clear it in media it is just a difference between the director and him.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 03:38 PM [Full View]
You mean to say our dear friends in Bangalore released PEAS just coz it was a remake of their movies
Originally Posted by MADDY
(selvaraghavan thambi sottaya - sollave illa sorry parrattaya .....edho paa annanukku motta podama irundha seri ) Appuramm !
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 03:46 PM [Full View]
Lets leave KH since he does not produce films from RK international regularly. For other banners, he goes to every T, D and H for music. Originally Posted by thimuru
Cheran's two movies with IR failed, chances of him going back to IR is minimal.
Bala is the only guy left at IR camp. Do you know that Bala is a non-believer too?
Anyway just look at Rajasekaran's track record, Moga Mull, Bharathi and now Periyar. I think IR lost one good director from his kitty.
Lyrics: If he takes lyrics of his songs to his heart that much, atleast 20% of his songs should not have been composed at all.
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From: MADDY on 9th May 2007 03:48 PM [Full View]
i defintely think so.......cos, i got in touch with one "kannada sanga" activist - HC one......he told - "we wont allow rajinikanth movies also Originally Posted by selvakumar
You mean to say our dear friends in Bangalore released PEAS just coz it was a remake of their movies " .........
ok, enuf of disgressions......
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 03:52 PM [Full View]
Well. I agree even IR is in full of sad feelings. Originally Posted by MrJudge
BTW I don't want to extend the argument
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:03 PM [Full View]
joe, Originally Posted by joe
I don't believe his words came on JV, it looked like an eye-washer to me. Well, if he didn't want to compose only for this project, he should have talked to Rajasekaran in an amicable way. But he criticised him so badly, Rajasekaran will never go to IR unless some miracle happens.
Reg. Satyaraj's performance: He has done excellent job in this movie, not only him every supporting actors done their work aptly.
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From: crajkumar_be on 9th May 2007 04:17 PM [Full View]
Well, Kamal is a non-believer too Originally Posted by MrJudge
This only seems to prove Joe's point - IR might not have refused this movie because of his ideological differences with Periyar.
Yen, if i'm not wrong, IR composed the music for Velu Prabakaran's film, Kadavul...which was not only made by a non-believer, but which also had a strong anti-theistic message.
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:17 PM [Full View]
Well, I am sad that IR was not part of this very good project. If you watch the movie, you will realise and accept my point. I know you will not watch it, so lets end the argument right here right now. Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Well. I agree even IR is in full of sad feelings. Originally Posted by MrJudge
BTW I don't want to extend the argument
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:22 PM [Full View]
Well, Kamal's case is well-known, But I don't think many people know about Bala. That is why I said. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Well, Kamal is a non-believer too Originally Posted by MrJudge
This only seems to prove Joe's point - IR might not have refused this movie because of his ideological differences with Periyar.
Yen, if i'm not wrong, IR composed the music for Velu Prabakaran's film, Kadavul...which was not only made by a non-believer, but which also had a strong anti-theistic message.
Rajasekaran's statement was different though, I believe in Rajasekaran than IR in this issue.
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 04:24 PM [Full View]
For those who are believing IR said lie in JV, Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Well, Kamal is a non-believer too Originally Posted by MrJudge
This only seems to prove Joe's point - IR might not have refused this movie because of his ideological differences with Periyar.
Yen, if i'm not wrong, IR composed the music for Velu Prabakaran's film, Kadavul...which was not only made by a non-believer, but which also had a strong anti-theistic message.
how did he compose music for Kadavul and why didn't he compose music to periyar.
BTW, I agree as usual IR's speech, in JV interview he confused everything
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From: crajkumar_be on 9th May 2007 04:29 PM [Full View]
Sorry, i may be talking without being aware of the whole/exact context of the discussion here. ie, Rajasekaran etc.. Originally Posted by MrJudge
However, what i meant was that I think you believe IR walked out of Periyar because of his religious beliefs. I'm saying if that was the case how come he works with Kamal, Bala and Velu Prabhakaran?
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 04:29 PM [Full View]
When it comes to speech, interviews etc .. IR is usually confusing. enna solla varrArnu suthamA puriyAthu sila nEram.
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From: Sanjeevi on 9th May 2007 04:31 PM [Full View]
Many strong worshipers of IR are well-known non-believers.
Kamal, Bala, Thankarbachan, Veluprabhakaran and even we can see our hubbers also
I am curious to know about some athiest famous/quality Music Directors
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From: Nakeeran on 9th May 2007 04:35 PM [Full View]
Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
In this case, the media twisted the facts totally even IR was not commenting anything
Finally, he had to come out with his views through JV .
Tell me, IMO, there is little scope for any musician to do something in such a type of movie like EVR . EVR was more of a social reformer .
Atleast in case of Barathi, he was a poet and his lyrics were composed splendidly by IR
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:41 PM [Full View]
Kamal and Bala, I don't think they have taken any movies on atheism, so no problem working with these guys. Velu Prabhakaran may know the trick to rope in IR somehow for his projects. I was surprised to see IR scoring for his kathal arangam which has so much nuditiy. I haven't seen Kadavul, so no comments about it. Is it full of atheism or just a portion of it? Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
May be some middle men played some thiruvilaiyadal between Rajasekaran and IR?
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From: Thirumaran on 9th May 2007 04:42 PM [Full View]
I am eagerly expecting some one to discuss about the movie. In the past several pages it is rarely happening
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 04:43 PM [Full View]
Friends,
Shall we move from IR issue and back to Periyar movie
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 04:46 PM [Full View]
ennathaan sonnaalum - enakkennavO VM-a thookka solli iruppaarnuthaan thOnuthu. On any day there is no chance that IR would work with VM or vise versa. Anyway, let me leave it here.
Nakkeeran,
Thanks for clarifying but mine was a generalised statement as I have found IR's interviews and speeches quite confusing mostly.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 04:46 PM [Full View]
This thread calls for discussion about SATYARAJ's Performance in Periyaar I think if not the entire movie Originally Posted by Thirumaran
I am eagerly expecting some one to discuss about the movie. In the past several pages it is rarely happening
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:48 PM [Full View]
Yeah, as if IR had lot of scope in Ajanta and Mayakannadi. Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Unless you watch Periyar, you won't believe how much scope available for BGM in this movie. IR would have scored century if he played this innings. But he selects wrong matches and scores only ducks nowadays. VS was lucky to get this project, good for him!
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From: Roshan on 9th May 2007 04:49 PM [Full View]
kavalapadaatheenga.. NOV kadaisiyila vanthu ellaatheyum delete paNNittu maRupadiyum page 8 -la koNdu pOi ungaLai niRuthuvaar Originally Posted by Thirumaran
I am eagerly expecting some one to discuss about the movie. In the past several pages it is rarely happening
But I think we can use this thread to discuss about the movie as whole than confining to Sathyaraj alone.
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 04:50 PM [Full View]
padam parthaacha? paakama eppadi discuss panrathu? Originally Posted by Thirumaran
I am eagerly expecting some one to discuss about the movie. In the past several pages it is rarely happening
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 04:51 PM [Full View]
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From: Thirumaran on 9th May 2007 04:52 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
This thread calls for discussion about SATYARAJ's Performance in Periyaar I think if not the entire movie Originally Posted by Thirumaran
I am eagerly expecting some one to discuss about the movie. In the past several pages it is rarely happening we cant expect that much accuracy while discussing any topic. At least there should be some relevance
MR.Judge, Nakee and others,
If there are any further IR issues take them to appropriate threads.
Thanks.
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From: selvakumar on 9th May 2007 04:53 PM [Full View]
I have moved my replies to the other thread available in this section.At least there should be some relevance
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From: Thirumaran on 9th May 2007 05:18 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 05:19 PM [Full View]
do u thing music is a mechanical thing? Originally Posted by MrJudge
Lets leave KH since he does not produce films from RK international regularly. For other banners, he goes to every T, D and H for music. Originally Posted by thimuru
Cheran's two movies with IR failed, chances of him going back to IR is minimal.
Bala is the only guy left at IR camp. Do you know that Bala is a non-believer too?
Anyway just look at Rajasekaran's track record, Moga Mull, Bharathi and now Periyar. I think IR lost one good director from his kitty.
Lyrics: If he takes lyrics of his songs to his heart that much, atleast 20% of his songs should not have been composed at all.
how could he compose for a subject which he completely oppose!
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From: joe on 9th May 2007 05:31 PM [Full View]
நான் ஆன்மீகத்தை விரும்புகிறவன் என்ற முறையில் பெரியாரின் கடவுள் மறுப்பு கொள்கைகளில் எனக்கு உடன்பாடு இல்லையென்றாலும், சுயமரியாதையையும் தன்னம்பிக்கையையும் அடிமட்டத்திலே இருந்த மக்கள் மனதிலே ஏற்படுத்தி சாதிக்கொடுமைகளை அழிப்பதற்காக தன் வாழ்நாளையே அர்ப்பணித்த அவரை நான் மதிக்கவில்லையென்றால் ,நான் உண்மையான தமிழனே அல்ல. என் ரத்ததில் ஊறியிருக்கும் இந்த உணர்வு ஒன்றே தந்தை பெரியார் படத்துக்கு இசையமைக்க மறுத்திருக்க மாட்டேன் என்பதற்கு சரியான ஆதாரம்
-இசை ஞானி இளையராஜா (ஜீ.வி.பேட்டி)
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From: thimuru on 9th May 2007 05:43 PM [Full View]
appo ir kitta ketkave illai!
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From: MrJudge on 9th May 2007 11:13 PM [Full View]
Well this is my last post with IR reference in this thread. Originally Posted by thimuru
Rajasekaran said in an interview that IR was not even ready to read the script of the Periyar movie. If ONLY he had read it, history will be different. This movie is not at all about only atheism (shown in a subtle manner), it is more than that. The hero wants only one thing in life, HUMANITY. And atheism took a back seat in this movie, kudos to Rajasekaran for bringing this biography on screen.
Ok, lets end the digression here.
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From: MrJudge on 10th May 2007 10:46 AM [Full View]
Heard from my friend that Ananta Vikatan has praised the movie in their review this week and did not give any points this time. They have said that Rajasekaran has tried to bring "oru imayam" to the celluloid, how can we evaluate this effort by giving points?
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From: raaja_rasigan on 10th May 2007 05:57 PM [Full View]
In a lighter note, AV did not give marks to Originally Posted by MrJudge
Heard from my friend that Ananta Vikatan has praised the movie in their review this week and did not give any points this time. They have said that Rajasekaran has tried to bring "oru imayam" to the celluloid, how can we evaluate this effort by giving points?
VEERASAMI too..... & they have mentioned as "paritchaikki mark podalaam..... visa paritchaikku?"
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From: MrJudge on 10th May 2007 06:07 PM [Full View]
Kumudam doesn't publish their top 5 movie list regularly, it pops in for some months and disappears suddenly for several months. This week it appeared and Periyar is at no.1 spot.
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From: joe on 10th May 2007 10:40 PM [Full View]
Both online AV,Kumudam yet to be updated
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From: joe on 12th May 2007 01:50 AM [Full View]
Just back from theatre watching Periyar
review later..
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From: Nerd on 12th May 2007 02:47 AM [Full View]
Looking forward to it :P Originally Posted by joe
Just back from theatre watching Periyar
review later..
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From: MrJudge on 12th May 2007 05:45 PM [Full View]
Tomorrow in Madhan's thraiparvai on Vijay TV, Periyar movie will be reviewed, also Satyaraj answers for Madhan's Qs.
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From: Roshan on 12th May 2007 10:20 PM [Full View]
Thanks for the info. The movie is not shown in cinemas here. Have to wait for the DVD Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: joe on 12th May 2007 10:27 PM [Full View]
Mr Judge,Nerd,Groucho and others,
My review on 'Periyar' movie.
http://cdjm.blogspot.com/2007/05/blog-post_13.html
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From: crajkumar_be on 12th May 2007 10:30 PM [Full View]
Periyar (the movie, and NOT the person/leader) 
A totally screwed up film in every single aspect of movie making - you name it, acting, writing, directing, editing etc... etc... BAD.
Instead of making a *movie* on Periyar, they have just shown one event after the other. A film division or a film reel instead of a movie.
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From: Nerd on 12th May 2007 10:37 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Periyar (the movie, and NOT the person/leader)
A totally screwed up film in every single aspect of movie making - you name it, acting, writing, directing, editing etc... etc... BAD.
Instead of making a *movie* on Periyar, they have just shown one event after the other. A film division or a film reel instead of a movie.
First negative review and i do respect CRajkumar's reviews. Interesting :P
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From: joe on 12th May 2007 11:40 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
quite true..I mentioned the same in my review.Instead of making a *movie* on Periyar, they have just shown one event after the other..
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From: kamalsurya on 12th May 2007 11:57 PM [Full View]
Are they showing Periyar in Singapore?? Originally Posted by joe
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
quite true..I mentioned the same in my review.Instead of making a *movie* on Periyar, they have just shown one event after the other..
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 12:05 AM [Full View]
Yes,GV Yishun. Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Are they showing Periyar in Singapore??
Why are you shocked?
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From: kamalsurya on 13th May 2007 12:09 AM [Full View]
Usually this kind of movies don't make it all to the Singapore...that;s why i asked... is it a one show kind of thing....I heard from my fren that even Chennai 600028 was rejected by GV yishun and plaza which apparently seem to be the same owner Originally Posted by joe
Yes,GV Yishun. Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Are they showing Periyar in Singapore??
Why are you shocked?
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 12:18 AM [Full View]
Periyar playing 3 shows. Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Yesterday 4 shows including the weekend midnight show(two movies for single ticket)
I went to 12.30 (mid night show) (Periyar and Viyabari) .After periyar I escaped.
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From: kamalsurya on 13th May 2007 12:30 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Periyar playing 3 shows. Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Yesterday 4 shows including the weekend midnight show(two movies for single ticket)
I went to 12.30 (mid night show) (Periyar and Viyabari) .After periyar I escaped.
U just did yourself a favour there
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From: crajkumar_be on 13th May 2007 03:23 AM [Full View]
Please avoid it. Naan yen ponen na, to know more about Periyar's history (though i knew it would be one-sided).. I like many of his 'karuthu''s.... Originally Posted by Nerd
First negative review and i do respect CRajkumar's reviews. Interesting :P
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From: Hulkster on 13th May 2007 08:08 AM [Full View]
They are showing Chennai 600028 through Eng Wah Cinemas and GV Tiong Bahru...i just caught it there..it has english subtitles Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Usually this kind of movies don't make it all to the Singapore...that;s why i asked... is it a one show kind of thing....I heard from my fren that even Chennai 600028 was rejected by GV yishun and plaza which apparently seem to be the same owner Originally Posted by joe
Yes,GV Yishun. Originally Posted by kamalsurya
Are they showing Periyar in Singapore??
Why are you shocked?
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 11:19 AM [Full View]
Thanks for info Originally Posted by Hulkster
My house is near Tiong Bharu plaza. Will watch it.
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 12:18 PM [Full View]
'பெரியார்' திரைப்படம் - என் பார்வையில் -Joe
பெரியார் - இந்த பெயரைக் கேட்டதுமே பெரும்பான்மை இன்றைய இளைய தலைமுறையினரிடம் அவரைப் பற்றி அறியப்பட்டுள்ள சிந்தனை "பெரியார் ஒரு நாத்திக தலைவர் .கடவுள் நம்பிக்கை உள்ளவர்களை அவர் கேவலமாக திட்டுவார் .கடவுள் சிலைகளை போட்டு உடைத்தவர்" இவ்வளவு தான் .இதற்கு மேல் பெரியாரைப் பற்றி அவர்களுக்கு பெரிய அபிப்பிராயம் எதுவுமில்லை .இதற்கு காரணம் ,பெரியாரை ஒரு பரிமாணத்தில் குறுக்கி அதன் மூலம் சுய தேடல் இல்லாத ,வெகுஜன பிரச்சாரங்களை மீறி எதையும் தெரிந்து கொள்ள ஆர்வமில்லாத பெரும்பான்மை இளைய சமூகத்தினரிடையே பெரியார் பற்றிய குறுகிய பிம்பத்தை பதிய வைத்து விடலாம் என்று சிலர் மேற்கொண்ட முயற்சி என்று மட்டும் சொல்லிவிட முடியாது .மாறாக பெரியார் தொண்டர்கள் ,வழி வந்தவர்கள் கூட அவரின் ஒற்றைப்பரிமாணத்தை தாண்டி அவரை முன்னிறுத்த தவறியதும் காரணமே .பெரியார் வழி வந்த அரசுகள் மாவட்ட தலைநகர்களில் நிறுவிய நினைவுத்தூண்களிலும் சரி ,சிலைகளிலும் சரி பெரும்பாலும் பொறிக்கப்பட்ட வசனம் "கடவுளை நம்பியவன் முட்டாள் ...." என்ற வாசகம் தான் .இதைத் தாண்டி பெரியாரின் சமூக நீதிக்கருத்துக்கள் ,சாதி ஒழிப்பு கருத்துக்கள் ,பெண்ணிய சிந்தனைகள் பொறிக்கப்படுவதில்லை .பெரியாரின் பல முக்கிய பரிமாணங்கள் இளைய தலைமுறையினருக்கு சரியாக எடுத்துச்சொல்லப்படுவதில்லை.
அதிர்ஷ்ட வசமாக பெரியார் திரைப்படம் இந்த குறையை சற்று போக்கியிருக்கிறது என்றே சொல்ல வேண்டும் .கிட்டத்தட்ட மூன்று மணி நேரம் நகரும் இந்த திரைப்படத்தின் முதல் ஒரு மணி நேரம் மிகச்சாதாரணமாக சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கிறது என்றே கருத வேண்டியுள்ளது .அடுத்த இரண்டு மணி நேரத்தில் படிப்படியாக சத்தியராஜின் உடலுக்குள் பெரியார் ஆவி புகுந்து கொண்டது போல கன கச்சிதமாக பெரியாரை நம் கண் முன் நிறுத்துகிறார் சத்தியராஜ்.
பெரியாரின் இளைமப்பருவத்திலிருந்து தொடங்கும் படத்தில் அவர் காசிக்கு செல்வதற்கு முன் வரை பெரிதாக தாக்கத்தை ஏற்படுத்தும் காட்சிகள் இல்லை .வணிக ரீதியாக திணிக்கப்பட்டதாக சொல்ல முடியாத வகையில் இருந்தாலும் ,கேளிக்கை விடுதி நடனத்திற்காக வீணடிக்கப்பட்ட நேரத்தில் பெரியாரின் சிறு வயது வாழ்வில் தண்ணீர் குடிப்பதில் ஜாதிப்பாகுபாடு அவர் உள்ளத்தில் ஏற்படுத்திய தாக்கத்தை காண்பித்திருக்கலாம் .
முதல் மனைவியாக வரும் ஜோதிர்மாயி ,இரண்டாவது மனைவியாக வரும் குஷ்பு இருவரும் சிறப்பான நடிப்பை வழங்கியிருக்கிறார்கள் .ராஜாஜியின் கதா பாத்திரம் தேவைக்கு அதிகமாகவே வருகிறது .அதே நேரத்தில் ராஜாஜியின் மறைவுக்கு சென்று பெரியார் அழுதது சேர்க்கப்படவில்லை.
இளையராஜா இசையமைத்திருந்தால் மிகச்சிறப்பாக இருந்திருக்கும் என்றாலும் கூட வித்தியாசாகர் எதிர்பார்த்ததை விட நன்றாக இசையமைத்திருந்தார் .வைரமுத்துவின் ஆழமான வரிகளின் அர்த்தம் சிதையாமலும் ,இசைக்குள் வார்த்தைகளை அமுக்கி விடாமலும் பாடல் வரிகளுக்கு கைதட்டல் கிடைக்கும் அளவுக்கு இசையை வழங்கியிருக்கிறார் .வைக்கம் போராட்ட காட்சியில் வரும் ஒரு பாடலில் தீண்டாமை குறித்து "அவர்கள் மட்டும் தானா விந்து-லிருந்து பிறந்தார்கள் .நாங்கள் என்ன எச்சிலிலுருந்தா பிறந்தோம் ' என்னும் பொருள் படும் வரிகள் கைதட்டலை அள்ளுகிறது.
தங்கர் பச்சானின் ஒளிப்பதிவும் ,அந்த கால பழைய காற்றாடி போன்றவற்றை நுணுக்கமாக பயன்படுத்திய கலை இயக்குநரும் நிறைவாக செய்திருக்கிறார்கள் .
சத்தியராஜ் பற்றி சொல்ல வேண்டுமென்றால் ... முதல் பாதியில் அதே சத்யராஜ் பாணி உச்சரிப்பை தவிர்த்திருக்கலாம் .இரண்டாவது பாதியில் சத்தியராஜ் சுத்தமாக மறைந்து பெரியார் நம்மை ஆட்கொள்ளுகிறார் .ஆட்சியமைக்கும் போது அண்ணாவின் விஜயம் மற்றும் இறுதிக்காட்சியில் சத்தியராஜ் பெரியாராகவே வாழ்ந்திருக்கிறார் .
95 வருட வாழ்க்கையை 3 மணி நேரத்தில் குறுக்கும் கடினமான பணி இயக்குநருக்கு .காந்தியாரோடு சந்திப்பு ,விதவை மறுமணம் ,தேவதாசி ஒழிப்பு, கள்ளுக்கடை மறியல் ,வைக்கம் போராட்டம் ,காங்கிரசில் ஜாதிப்பாகுபாடு ,காங்கிரசிலிருந்து வெளியேற்றம் ஆகியவை சிறப்பாக சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கின்றன.ஆனால் பின்னர் தி.க உதயம் ,இரண்டாம் திருமணம் ,திமுக தொடக்கம் ,பெருந்தலைவர் காமராஜர் சந்திப்பு ,திமுக ஆட்சி அமையும் போது அண்ணா சந்திப்பு ,கலைஞர் சந்திப்பு ,எம்.ஜி.ஆர் சந்திப்பு என்று துண்டு துண்டாக காட்சிகள் நகர்வதாக தோன்றுகிரது .விஷுவல் ரீதியாக இன்னும் சிறப்பாக செய்திருக்கலாமோ என்று தோன்றுகிறது .
மிகவும் உடல்நிலை பாதிப்பட்ட போதிலும் ,சொன்ன தேதியில் பொதுக்கூட்டத்தில் கலந்துகொண்டு ,தனது நெஞ்சில் தைத்திருக்கும் முள் பற்றி வேதனைப் பட்டு விட்டு உரையைத் தொடரும் போதே மயங்கி சாய்கிறார் பெரியார் .95 வயதிலும் தன் இறுதி மூச்சு வரையிலும் சுயமரியாதை ,ஒடுக்கப்பட்டோர் இழிவு நீக்கல் ,விழிப்புணர்வு -க்காக பாடுபட்ட மாபெரும் தலைவன் மறைகிறார் .பாரம்பரியத்தை மீறி கலைஞர் அரசு வழங்கிய அரசு மரியாதை இறுதி ஊர்வலத்தின் சில நிஜக் காட்சிகளோடு படம் முடிகிறது.
பெரியார் வாழ்க்கை என்பது 3 மணி நேரத்தில் விளக்கப்பட முடிகிற ஒன்றல்ல .இந்த பெரியார் படம் பெரியாரை ஏற்கனவே படித்தறிந்தவர்களுக்காகவோ,புரிந்து கொண்டவர்களுக்காகவோ உருவாக்கப்பட்டதல்ல .மாறாக ,பெரியாரின் ஒரு பரிமாணத்தை மட்டுமே அறிந்த இன்றைய தலை முறை "ஆகா பெரியாருக்கு இத்தனை முகங்களா ? இத்தனைக் காலம் தெரியாமல் விட்டுவிட்டோமே" என்றுணர்ந்து அவரைப் பற்றி மேலும் தெரிந்து கொள்ளும் பயணத்தின் ஒரு நல்ல அறிமுகப் படலமாக இந்த படம் அமைந்திருக்கிறது .அந்த வகையில் இந்த படம் அதன் இலக்கை வென்றிருக்கிறது .
ஞானராஜசேகரனுக்கும் ,சத்திய ராஜ்-க்கும் நன்றியும் வாழ்த்துக்களும்!
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From: Nerd on 13th May 2007 01:12 PM [Full View]
Nice review Joe, especially this paragraph. So is this movie worth a Originally Posted by joe
1) Watch in the theaters
2) download
???
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 01:16 PM [Full View]
Intha padaththai aatharippathu unga Thaarmeega kadamai-nnu neenga ninacha theatre-la paarunga ..But anyhow ,it is a movie not to miss. Originally Posted by Nerd
Nice review Joe, especially this paragraph. So is this movie worth a
1) Watch in the theaters
2) download
???
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From: Nerd on 13th May 2007 01:19 PM [Full View]
CR, neenga bharathi padam paatheengaLA? How does this one compare with Bharathi Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Please avoid it. Naan yen ponen na, to know more about Periyar's history (though i knew it would be one-sided).. I like many of his 'karuthu''s.... Originally Posted by Nerd
First negative review and i do respect CRajkumar's reviews. Interesting :P I liked Bharathi very much :P
Thanks Joe
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From: P_R on 13th May 2007 03:57 PM [Full View]
Nice avtar Joe, particularly the Gandhi pic in the background.
Very interesting review, makes me want to see it all the more. Dunno when I will get to see it
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From: Roshan on 13th May 2007 05:42 PM [Full View]
Sorry - just got to know that the movie is released here in the cinemas. anEgamA - innum one hour-la we shall be going to see it.
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From: MrJudge on 13th May 2007 07:36 PM [Full View]
Joe,
Nice review and your views are right. Even in today's madhan's thiraiparvai, Madhan said that this movie is meant for youngsters who don't know about Periyar. I liked the movie because I never read anything about him. Also my opinion is that instead of filming it in a single movie, they should have stretched it to a sequel. But that would be too risky here in TN since many people will not appreciate it just for his non-believing concept. Our people never watch a movie as a movie, that is the problem.
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 07:39 PM [Full View]
Mr Judge,
Thanks and I agree with your views.
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From: crajkumar_be on 13th May 2007 07:40 PM [Full View]
I liked Bharathi too.. Originally Posted by Nerd
CR, neenga bharathi padam paatheengaLA? How does this one compare with Bharathi I liked Bharathi very much :P
Thanks Joe
If you watch Periyar and like the film, i will reimburse your ticket cost
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From: crajkumar_be on 13th May 2007 07:41 PM [Full View]
Forgot to add, Periyar has one of the the worst music scores ever composed in TF history.
The only saving grace is a song which if i'm not wrong, is composed in Thodi ragam...
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From: MrJudge on 13th May 2007 07:48 PM [Full View]
I won't go to the level of calling it worst. I would say decent music by VS, IR would have done awesome job, but we all know what happened Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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From: joe on 13th May 2007 07:48 PM [Full View]
crajkumar_be,
I can't accept your one sided extreme opinion ,I respect it.
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From: Roshan on 13th May 2007 11:00 PM [Full View]
Sorry to say - Periyar was a total disappointment. Went with lots of expectation and came out without a single impact.
It's neither like a movie nor a documentary. It hangs inbetween. Lots of flaws in characterisation, dialogues, make up, BGM etc. There are ample opportunities to make many scenes brilliant and effective but the director had failed very badly. ellAmE oru avasarakOlathil edukkappatta uNarvu.
Sathyaraj - though had tried hard - was again a disappointment. Could have changed his usual body language and voice modulation. Periyar engiRa uNarvai vida Sathyaraj enRa uNarvuthaan mElOngi niRkiRathu.
Another big disappointment was Vairamuthu
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From: Sanjeevi on 13th May 2007 11:08 PM [Full View]
Periyar appadinkura maayai-la irunthu sila peralathan review kodukka mudiyuthu
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From: nemesis786 on 14th May 2007 12:32 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
Sorry to say - Periyar was a total disappointment. Went with lots of expectation and came out without a single impact.
It's neither like a movie nor a documentary. It hangs inbetween. Lots of flaws in characterisation, dialogues, make up, BGM etc. There are ample opportunities to make many scenes brilliant and effective but the director had failed very badly. ellAmE oru avasarakOlathil edukkappatta uNarvu.
Sathyaraj - though had tried hard - was again a disappointment. Could have changed his usual body language and voice modulation. Periyar engiRa uNarvai vida Sathyaraj enRa uNarvuthaan mElOngi niRkiRathu.
Another big disappointment was Vairamuthu
have you heard periyar speak? Go to www.periyar.org and download some audio n video files! He doesnt speak like a punch dialogue mass hero he is just ordinary like anyone else! In a movie you cant make such blatantly attacking statements like he did in real life!
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From: interz on 14th May 2007 02:22 AM [Full View]
worst BGM score?
Thats how music was back then, simple and melodious. VS done is job to perfection, there is a very good reason why he was choosen. He has done great BGMS in movies like Summer in Bethlehem, Swarabishekam, Chandrolsavam, Chandupottu.
I disagree on your opinion, and I have to defend against the redicoulous accusations.
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From: groucho070 on 14th May 2007 09:37 AM [Full View]
Joe, read your review. It looked quite balanced to me, considering your respect for Periyar. Namely, you noted the elements missing, and the way it was shot in event-base.
One thing I should not expect, I guess, is a smooth flow of narration.
I am curious about Periyar, I agree with some of his ideologies and I am a fan of Sathyaraj. These alone are enough reasons to watch the movie.
You are right about general perception that only certain facets of Periyar has been presented to the younger generations. I get the same distasteful look from elders when I ask them about periyar. He is an evil atheist. That's the general consensus.
Since that is the only thing that they can come up with, I also want to see his good side. I know he did not commit mass murder, raped women and killed children, or burn villages. So, there has to be a good side in him, right? I hope the film managed to capture that.
Thanks for the review, Joe. Since we have similar taste, I guess I can enjoy it too.
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From: joe on 14th May 2007 01:22 PM [Full View]
Yeah ! As Mr.Judge pointed out Periyar's life needs atleast 3 part of movies to cover all aspects. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: joe on 15th May 2007 10:18 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Roshan
I am 100% with CR here. Flaws pathi solluRathunnA - list paNNittE pOgalaam. IMO, even Sathyaraj was not up to the mark. And yes Gandhi, Rajaji, Anna, MK , MGR - ellA characters-um maaRu vEda pOttiyila varra maathirithaan irunthaanga. Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Joe, Originally Posted by joe
Nalla Comparision Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Meendum solren, yenakku prachanai Periyar-in sithaandhathil illai, Periyar kurithu sollappatta/solla marukka patta vishayangalinaal illai, andha padam padamaakkappatta vidhathil dhaan.
Pathetic production values, horrendous music direction, totally incompetent and amateur acting (except maybe Sathyaraj), bad editing/direction*. In short there is no cinematic value addition whatsoever. As a matter of fact, why did they chose the cinematic medium if their work was going to be so shoddy that it looked like a college stage play?
Oru small sample - The exchanges between Periyar, Anna/MK/MGR - unmaya sollunga ungalukku sirippu varla? The whole theatre was in raptures and ellarukkum Lollu Sabha dhaan nyabagam vandhadhu.
* - Kanchipuram mAnAdu scene - Periyar brings up the topic of reservation and Rajaji team opposes it. The two factions of party workers start shouting at each other. At this point you can actually see the people (extra actors) in the front row in the floor below the stage laughing! enakku therinju the goof-up was so blatant, everyone in the theater could spot it.
As CR said - in the Kanchipuram maanadu scene - it was so obvious and noticeable - the front row guys laughing. InthaLavu asattaiya iruppaangaLaa. I could here some guys shouting "anga paaru avanunga sirikkiraangadA
AppuRam make up - Periyar wouls say - namakku kalyaanam aagi 30 varusham but his wife (jothirmayi) would look like a 30 vayasu (even less than that) except for some grey hair.
Costumes - Some British Officers and then Ambedhkar - are in suits which are almost similar to the present trend Even the ties and shoes looked trendy
BGM -
Lyrics - as I said - a big let down by VM
ippadi sollittE pOgalaam .
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From: joe on 15th May 2007 10:23 AM [Full View]
Hmm.OOraLavu unmai thaan. Originally Posted by Roshan
I too heard the same comment in singaporeAs CR said - in the Kanchipuram maanadu scene - it was so obvious and noticeable - the front row guys laughing. InthaLavu asattaiya iruppaangaLaa. I could here some guys shouting "anga paaru avanunga sirikkiraangadA
True!AppuRam make up - Periyar wouls say - namakku kalyaanam aagi 30 varusham but his wife (jothirmayi) would look like a 30 vayasu (even less than that) except for some grey hair.
IMO ,It is not that badBGM -
Even though I am not a big fan of vairamuthu like you ,I am impressed with Lyrics.Lyrics - as I said - a big let down by VM
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From: MrJudge on 16th May 2007 11:48 AM [Full View]
The movie has its share of flaws, agreed, but the unknown events of his life really worked for me. I enjoyed the film and understood the underlying message the director tried to deliver. Originally Posted by Roshan
Sorry to say - Periyar was a total disappointment. Went with lots of expectation and came out without a single impact.
It's neither like a movie nor a documentary. It hangs inbetween. Lots of flaws in characterisation, dialogues, make up, BGM etc. There are ample opportunities to make many scenes brilliant and effective but the director had failed very badly. ellAmE oru avasarakOlathil edukkappatta uNarvu.
Sathyaraj - though had tried hard - was again a disappointment. Could have changed his usual body language and voice modulation. Periyar engiRa uNarvai vida Sathyaraj enRa uNarvuthaan mElOngi niRkiRathu.
Another big disappointment was Vairamuthu
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From: groucho070 on 23rd May 2007 01:16 PM [Full View]
Thanks Judge. I always had respect for Balaji's review. Kinda agree with him most of the time. His review seem to match my expectation. Still haven't seen it, damn!
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From: NOV on 23rd May 2007 01:38 PM [Full View]
too late now groucho.
its no more playing in the cinemas. guess you have to wait for VCD DVD...
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From: leosimha on 23rd May 2007 01:44 PM [Full View]
is it a good movie... Originally Posted by NOV
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From: groucho070 on 23rd May 2007 01:49 PM [Full View]
The VCD makes it quite fast here. Let me check Mani Osai this evening. Originally Posted by NOV
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From: NOV on 23rd May 2007 02:05 PM [Full View]
no idea. Originally Posted by leosimha
some say its good, some say its awful.
I didnt watch it.
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From: MrJudge on 23rd May 2007 05:08 PM [Full View]
No problem, groucho. Though I watch only a very few/selected movies, I do read his reviews after watching them to see how rates. Not sure, whether VCDs/DVDs of Periayar are out in the market. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: MrJudge on 23rd May 2007 05:12 PM [Full View]
If you like off-beat films, you may like it. Originally Posted by leosimha
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From: joe on 25th May 2007 08:11 AM [Full View]
'Periyar' movie still running in Singapore
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 08:17 AM [Full View]
Groucho,
If You have watched the movie ,shoot your review (negative or postive ,no matter)
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From: groucho070 on 6th June 2007 09:07 AM [Full View]
I managed to get the original VCD. Quality is not bad. So, my review is entirely based on small screen viewing.
Periyar.
Who is Periyar? What drove him to be who he was as we remember him now? What is his good side and dark side?
I am afraid director Gnana Sekharan only managed to answer a little bit of all those questions that I have in mind.
By the end of the move, I knew very little about Periyar, apart from most of what we know. There is precious few details revealed about the man who is both admired and reviled. We know why he is admired, but the points that made many people who hate him till today? None whatsoever.
Periyar fails as far as the script is concerned. The narrative flow consists of multiple hiccups. You are lost when one scene moves to next, as if they dropped some of the reels somewhere. I have a feeling that lot's of butchering had been done to suit the 2 hours plus time frame.
Many characters come and go and failed to make an impact. It's nice for those who know the history of Tamizh Nadu politics. But it's more like spot the celebrity game. There was one scene where a character introduces another, "Ithu Kavi Kamu Shariff". That is one of the biggest lyricist in the history of TFM and he sits there quiet for a few minutes. That's it! Why? Suddenly there was Vasu Vikram doing a good impression of MRR. One scene, few minutes and he's gone. Rajaji character, which should have been the biggest influence in Periyar's life, direct and indirect, is also wasted with some dude with poor acting training doing it.
Speaking of which, we have Tamizh-speaking Ghandi. Did he?
But the real fault of the movie is not with the movie itself. It's Periyar himself. He lived a long exciting life and have done so many things to be fitted into a two hours-plus movie. This is a real headache for filmakers.
It could have worked better as a slice-of-life piece. Say during a crucial time, the formation of DK, for example. A lot can be explored on this era alone and can be made into a dramatic film.
I mean, the same director did Barathi and accomplished so much on the film about the poet who lived a short life.
Let's move on.
I can't complain much about the cinematography, as I viewed it in small screen. But what I saw was fine. It did not cry for attention (as would the camera that works for Manirathnam films) and worked well with the muted colour that brings us back to the era when cinema was black, white and grey.
The music? Not impressed. Nothing to shout about, and writing by Vairamuthu is okay. He has done better job before.
Now, here comes the acting part.
I told myself to be a strict critic. I am a fan of Sathyaraj, but I will not be biased. He has thirty odd years of acting experience and he better not screw up.
As everyone else mentioned, the younger Periyar is someone we have seen before. I have seen too many of Sathyaraj movies, and he looks very similar to some of the character he had done before.
Then, moving on to older age, he completely lost himself. His voice started changing slowly, and his body language began to change as well. In short, Sathyaraj did a good job. He is an adequate actor - he is not Kamal Haasan - so he did what he could within his limited capability. Award material? No. But a very good plus point in his resume. Personally, as a fan, I am very proud of him.
As for others, it's nice to see Manorama ditching the good-hearted suffering mother role, and play the conservative, stubborn mother. Sometimes bordering on evil, depending on your point of view.
Jothirmayee is good. I don't know if she is using her own voice, but I think she has a good future. Too bad, the script has little use for her character. So was Kushboo.
Hell, so is everybody else. Actors come in and go, characters appear, but nothing makes an impact.
All in all, the effort is very good. Very noble. But I wish they had someone else to do the script, or at least give it away for polishing.
My verdict: watchable. Definitely better than some of the stuff the industry is cranking out. And if the film do well, it will inspire more bio-pics, some of which will hopefully be very good.
Kudos to Gnana Sekharan for his effort.
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 09:14 AM [Full View]
Very well balanced review ,Groucho
My comments ..later.
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From: groucho070 on 6th June 2007 09:26 AM [Full View]
Joe, I admit that the poor narrative flow is also due to my own little knowledge about Periyar. But I think the filmaker should bear in mind that there are audience who don't know Periyar at all.
I have many questions, but I think I'd PM you, because truth sometimes hurts, eh?
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 09:44 AM [Full View]
Yeah ..'Periyar' movie is just a 'munnurai' for whoever willing to go further to read rest of the chapters of Periyar. Originally Posted by groucho070
True !But ,even there are negative sides and critisisms on Kamaraj and Bharathi ,and I found nothing in respective movies.By the end of the move, I knew very little about Periyar, apart from most of what we know. There is precious few details revealed about the man who is both admired and reviled. We know why he is admired, but the points that made many people who hate him till today? None whatsoever.
True ! IMO ,they should have concentrated more on 'social life' of Periyar rather than his personal life.Periyar fails as far as the script is concerned. The narrative flow consists of multiple hiccups. You are lost when one scene moves to next, as if they dropped some of the reels somewhere. I have a feeling that lot's of butchering had been done to suit the 2 hours plus time frame
Even I felt there could be more scenes for Anna ,who spent years with Periyar and who made a 'Political wing' of Periyarism. But I heard 4 hours film was shorten to this level and which made many continuety issues.Many characters come and go and failed to make an impact. It's nice for those who know the history of Tamizh Nadu politics. But it's more like spot the celebrity game. There was one scene where a character introduces another, "Ithu Kavi Kamu Shariff". That is one of the biggest lyricist in the history of TFM and he sits there quiet for a few minutes. That's it! Why?
Speaking of which, we have Tamizh-speaking Ghandi. Did he?
95 years of life with almost 65 years of social life with so-many activities ,twists can't be covered in 3 hours.But the real fault of the movie is not with the movie itself. It's Periyar himself. He lived a long exciting life and have done so many things to be fitted into a two hours-plus movie. This is a real headache for filmakers.
Fully agree with youIt could have worked better as a slice-of-life piece. Say during a crucial time, the formation of DK, for example. A lot can be explored on this era alone and can be made into a dramatic film.
Then, moving on to older age, he completely lost himself. His voice started changing slowly, and his body language began to change as well. In short, Sathyaraj did a good job. He is an adequate actor - he is not Kamal Haasan - so he did what he could within his limited capability. Award material? No. But a very good plus point in his resume. Personally, as a fan, I am very proud of him.
All in all, the effort is very good. Very noble. But I wish they had someone else to do the script, or at least give it away for polishing.
My verdict: watchable. Definitely better than some of the stuff the industry is cranking out. And if the film do well, it will inspire more bio-pics, some of which will hopefully be very good.
Kudos to Gnana Sekharan for his effort.
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From: shobana_in on 6th June 2007 12:00 PM [Full View]
joe....can u mention some of the negatives mentioned on kamaraj and bharathi as u have mentioned?
curious
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 12:03 PM [Full View]
Kamaraj and Bharathi are my personal role models ..but There are criticisms on Bharathi and Kamarajar too in their public life and personally too..But I don't want to discuss it here .. Originally Posted by shobana_in
If you want I can send you a PM.
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From: shobana_in on 6th June 2007 12:04 PM [Full View]
barathi may be criticized for personal life...but in public life i havent heard any... Originally Posted by joe
Kamaraj and Bharathi are my personal role models ..but There are criticisms on Bharathi and Kamarajar too in their public life and personally too..But I don't want to discuss it here .. Originally Posted by shobana_in
If you want I can send you a PM.
kamaraj both in personal and public life seems to be good...can u pm me
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From: Nakeeran on 6th June 2007 12:06 PM [Full View]
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Deal Personal matters outside the contents of the HUB Topics.
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 12:27 PM [Full View]
nakeeran,thimiru,
This is just to acknoweldge that I have read your comments here ,so that you can feel happy
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From: selvakumar on 6th June 2007 12:46 PM [Full View]
Nakeeran,
Your comments and your continuous personal attack on JOE ( The Hubber & Moderator) is disgusting. Please avoid this. Everyone can't be perfect all the time. Leave it at that. I don't want to go in to minute details on "what is what" ! Please stop here
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From: Nakeeran on 6th June 2007 12:51 PM [Full View]
U are yet to get PMs and public insults from Mr. Joe . Just send some views opposite to his and get the message Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: Thirumaran on 6th June 2007 12:52 PM [Full View]
Yes. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Any Personal matters deal it outside. What ever discussions made in PM deal in that level itself. That is not in the topic level discussion.
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From: selvakumar on 6th June 2007 12:54 PM [Full View]
Nakeeran,
I know JOE personally and even though we had diff of opinion several times @ the hub, I have never seen him reacting like what you have mentioned here. If he reacts then it must be because of nasty things from the other side as well. (I believe so)
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From: Nakeeran on 6th June 2007 12:59 PM [Full View]
Selva Sir
I respect the views of Thirumaran. hence no further comments
Only PMs
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From: Thirumaran on 6th June 2007 01:08 PM [Full View]
Also Avoid any political discussions here.
Thanks.
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From: Kumar on 6th June 2007 02:23 PM [Full View]
I haven't seen the movie yet, and I don't know how good Mahathma Gandhi's Tamil is in the film.
But I do remember a sequence from his autobiography, The Story of My Experiments With Truth, where he meets a Tamil worker (Balasundram) in South Africa who becomes his client. Gandhiji mentions that his Tamil was not so good and that communication with this client, and Tamil residents, was a challange. Here's a couple of lines from the book:
"BUt I wanted to requite their affection by learning Tamil and Telegu. In Tamil, as I have said, I made some little progress, but in Telegu, which I tried to learn in India, I did not get beyond the alphabet."
Just thought this might interest you.
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From: Roshan on 6th June 2007 02:32 PM [Full View]
Hi Kumar
Eppadi irukeenga?
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From: Nakeeran on 6th June 2007 02:49 PM [Full View]
[quote="groucho070"]
Speaking of which, we have Tamizh-speaking Ghandi. Did he?/quote]
Groucho Sar
Its actually Gandhi. Infact, we respect him as the Father of our nation and call him as MAHATMA GANDHIJI. Maybe you r from another country. Pl give some recognition to his name and dont type his name casually. Hope u realize this bcaz , we feel hurt when a leader of our nation is misspelt
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From: joe on 6th June 2007 02:53 PM [Full View]
Kumar,
In the movie "Bharathi' also there was a conversation between Ghandi and Bharathi ..Bharathi asked Ghandhi to preside over the meeting at Marina beach ,Bharathi to deliver a speach .Ghandi said that he was not available on that date and whether bharathi able to change the date ..Bharathi denied and says "Ungal porattaththai naan aaseervathikkiren..varugiren" ..I think the whole dialogue also in Tamil.
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From: P_R on 6th June 2007 04:24 PM [Full View]
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th June 2007 04:31 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
For kalai vignyAni PR and kalai gnyAni
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From: Thirumaran on 6th June 2007 04:36 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
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From: shobana_in on 6th June 2007 04:38 PM [Full View]
pullarikudhubaa Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
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From: shobana_in on 6th June 2007 04:40 PM [Full View]
PR...request...we are making a short film...
if u write a review we could send that as our explanation to the competition.
after making the movie we shall send it to you
im doing the script
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From: groucho070 on 6th June 2007 04:53 PM [Full View]
[quote="Nakeeran"]Nakeerar-sar. Originally Posted by groucho070
Deeply sorry for the spelling mistake. I am a journalist and I can't afford to make this kind of mistake. Also sorry that I have hurt you badly (I hurt you in the past for another leader, but that is a different story).
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From: Roshan on 6th June 2007 07:48 PM [Full View]
PR-a KokkA !! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
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From: thilak4life on 6th June 2007 10:58 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
<from Hey Ram>
Gandhi: konjam konjam Tamil varum namakku....neenga nEthikkU vaangO.. 'nEthikku' is tomorrow, isn't it ?
Uppili: No Bapuji, nEthikku is yesterday..
Gandhi: then my critics are right, this old man is stuck in yesterday ....the little Tamil that valliyammai taught me ..(fades away)
The reference is to Thillaiyaadi Valliyammai who fought alongside Gandhi in South Africa. That was a fairly well captured show of Gandhi's Tamil competence. Director yaaru
For kalai vignyAni PR and kalai gnyAni
Rusell peters fan eh? Not that I hate him.. But no where close to thalaivar George Carlin But no question that GC is all about Uncle Sam's ****.
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From: m_23_bayarea on 6th June 2007 11:00 PM [Full View]
<Digr> Originally Posted by thilak4life
Rusell peters fan eh? Not that I hate him.. But no where close to thalaivar George Carlin But no question that GC is all about Uncle Sam's ****.
And I think Russell Peters himself is all abt mocking Indians and Asians in front of the white public, and making it look funny!
<Digr>
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From: crajkumar_be on 6th June 2007 11:02 PM [Full View]
<Dig> Originally Posted by thilak4life
But no where close to thalaivar George Carlin But no question that GC is all about Uncle Sam's ****.
Count me in too
GC
</Dig>
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From: Nerd on 6th June 2007 11:03 PM [Full View]
Bay, RP equally mocks white people too :P
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From: m_23_bayarea on 6th June 2007 11:04 PM [Full View]
Not the performance that I was watching! Maybe others... After that show, I hate to even see his videos to know more abt him! What a disgrace he is.... And his poor Dad will have to explore ways to be proud of him, considering how much he mocks his own Father.... Originally Posted by Nerd
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From: thilak4life on 6th June 2007 11:05 PM [Full View]
yeah, it could irk the heck out of you. Maybe not always. :P Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
<Digr> Originally Posted by thilak4life
Rusell peters fan eh? Not that I hate him.. But no where close to thalaivar George Carlin But no question that GC is all about Uncle Sam's ****.
And I think Russell Peters himself is all abt mocking Indians and Asians in front of the white public, and making it look funny!
<Digr>
Question -> Is Chris rock all about dissing niggas like Samuel L.J and uplifting respectful blacks like Denzel????
Oh yeah, I like CR too
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From: m_23_bayarea on 6th June 2007 11:09 PM [Full View]
Chris Rock and Chris Tucker... Both are cool! I dont think Chris Rock mocks only blacks... When he presented the OSCARS in 2006, he was goin after almost everybody big time, the worst of which was BUSH! Originally Posted by thilak4life
Question -> Is Chris rock all about dissing niggas like Samuel L.J and uplifting respectful blacks like Denzel????
Oh yeah, I like CR too
And ppl like Denzel, Eddie, Jamie Foxx, etc are in a diff league altogether!
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From: thilak4life on 6th June 2007 11:12 PM [Full View]
I was using denzel(except training day and Glory :P) and SLJ(except few flicks) as metaphors. Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Chris Rock and Chris Tucker... Both are cool! I dont think Chris Rock mocks only blacks... When he presented the OSCARS in 2006, he was goin after almost everybody big time, the worst of which was BUSH! Originally Posted by thilak4life
Question -> Is Chris rock all about dissing niggas like Samuel L.J and uplifting respectful blacks like Denzel????
Oh yeah, I like CR too
And ppl like Denzel, Eddie, Jamie Foxx, etc are in a diff league altogether!
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From: P_R on 7th June 2007 12:33 AM [Full View]
>digr..
Hmmm.... I have the exact opinion in reverse re. Carlin v Peters. As they say, one man's meat yadda yadda yadda ! Originally Posted by thilak4life
But then I watched just about 15-20 mins of Carlin, so it mightn't be much of an opinion.No Bay. His hometown audience (Toronto) is extremely diverse and he performs all over Asia (he was scheduled to visit India sometime this year). He makes fun of everyone. Of course his pet theme is Asian in the West. What makes him special, IMO, is the precision with which he nails accents and cultural stereotypes such that, the audience finds his presentation endearing rather than irritating.<digr. Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
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From: m_23_bayarea on 7th June 2007 12:50 AM [Full View]
I understand PR! I just got soo frustrated being in that live show.... Anyways, before Joe gets frustrated for this DIGR, lemme get outta here! Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
No Bay. His hometown audience (Toronto) is extremely diverse and he performs all over Asia (he was scheduled to visit India sometime this year). He makes fun of everyone. Of course his pet theme is Asian in the West. What makes him special, IMO, is the precision with which he nails accents and cultural stereotypes such that, the audience finds his presentation endearing rather than irritating.<digr. Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
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From: Kumar on 7th June 2007 06:35 AM [Full View]
Hi Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Hi Kumar
Eppadi irukeenga?
Yetho irruken. How are you doing? Just to let you know, I do visit the hub from time to time; just haven't had the time to contribute as much. This thread seems interesting, with good reviews and observations on thie movie. Have you seen it yet?
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From: Kumar on 7th June 2007 06:47 AM [Full View]
Yes, I do remember this part of the film. Originally Posted by joe
Digression>
Hi PR, I've seen Peters on comedy shows here and he is an absolute riot. I think this type of self reflecting comedy is great for taking away the sting of lampooning stereotypes. What fun is it for a white person to mock an Indian accent if Indians are mocking their own accents?
end Digression>
PS: PR, have you had your reviews published before? I hope you'll take up shobana_in's request.
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From: Roshan on 7th June 2007 10:21 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Kumar
Hi Roshan, Originally Posted by Roshan
Hi Kumar
Eppadi irukeenga?
Yetho irruken. How are you doing?
I am good Kumar
Yeah I have seen it and given my comments. It's there in the previous pages.Just to let you know, I do visit the hub from time to time; just haven't had the time to contribute as much. This thread seems interesting, with good reviews and observations on thie movie. Have you seen it yet?
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From: joe on 7th June 2007 10:28 AM [Full View]
shall we back to 'Periyar' movie
To my surprise ,Periyar still playing in singapore (4 shows)
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From: P_R on 7th June 2007 10:38 AM [Full View]
>>digr.
Hmm no. A few years back in the oscars, Hey Ram was passed over in favour of a Chinese film about Tigers and Dragons - notable for the conspicuous absence of the mentioned creatures . I got pretty worked up about it. I was in college then, so I wrote a sophomoric piece defending the magnus opus and mailed it to the good old Hindu - stamps enclosed. It made a return appearance in my mailbox - even before I managed to return home from the post office. Originally Posted by Kumar
After that I have rested content with the Hub where I am afforded the luxury of bypassing such haughty editors, who fail to recognize stellar literary talent when they see it (they should be on Oscar commitees I say !)Sure Nilavu, I've PMed you. << end digr. Originally Posted by shobana_in
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From: Roshan on 7th June 2007 10:43 AM [Full View]
PR,
Ippathaan unga location gavanechEn - Chennai vanthAchA?
Sorry Joe
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From: thilak4life on 7th June 2007 10:44 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
dig-u res-u: PR.. GC may not work with all. I mean, he is way too contextual at times.
end of dig-u res-u.
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From: MrJudge on 7th June 2007 11:09 AM [Full View]
I think the movie didn't do well in TN. Originally Posted by joe
shall we back to 'Periyar' movie
To my surprise ,Periyar still playing in singapore (4 shows)
This month's uyirmmai has come out with Charu's review of Periyar. He praised the movie and thanked Gnanasekaran for his efforts.
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From: ajaybaskar on 7th June 2007 11:13 AM [Full View]
Its doing gud in TN. The DMK and DK ppl r making it to run in some centres.
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From: joe on 7th June 2007 11:14 AM [Full View]
Mr.Judge, Originally Posted by MrJudge
I think the movie didn't do well in TN. Originally Posted by joe
shall we back to 'Periyar' movie
To my surprise ,Periyar still playing in singapore (4 shows)
This month's uyirmmai has come out with Charu's review of Periyar. He praised the movie and thanked Gnanasekaran for his efforts.
It is expected one that Periyar movie will not be a commercial hit ..But I think it reached people who really wanted it .Even if it fails in first round ,'Periyar' movie can be a document for future reference.
Uyirmail wesite is not updated for many months ..I will try to get a copy.
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From: MrJudge on 20th June 2007 11:57 AM [Full View]
joe:
I heard that even in Erode this movie is still running. Are people really watching it or just for the sake it is being run? Don't know!
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From: selvakumar on 20th June 2007 12:55 PM [Full View]
I haven't seen the movie.
But just my opinion.
I think the movies that deal with great leaders should have STRANGERS in the lead roles and they should not be popular stars. I feel that popular stars carry their STAR logo around them and people's perception varies drastically based on this.
I loved Kamaraj movie and I think that person did an awesome job. Avar periya nadigar ah irunthirundha antha iyalbaana anubavam kedaichirukkuma ngirathu santhegamae.
Same applies to Bharathi as well
What do u guys think ?
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 01:00 PM [Full View]
I Think ,You are right Selva. Originally Posted by selvakumar
First Half ,Sathiyaraj's mannerisms are more like his own.
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 01:02 PM [Full View]
I think,The movie got profit ,since it is low budget and funded by Govt . Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: MrJudge on 20th June 2007 05:36 PM [Full View]
I don't think so. Everything depends on the director and how he sees/uses star/non-star for a character. If a star is a perfect fit for any leader, what's wrong in using him? Satyaraj in the second half is so perfect for the lead character and Jothirmayi is also a real find in Periyar. Originally Posted by selvakumar
The problem with young periyar is no one knows how he looked like or behaved. So no point in blaming the director/actor for the first half.
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From: MrJudge on 20th June 2007 05:38 PM [Full View]
It is a low budget one, may be got some profit but it is still running more than 50 days raises some serious Qs. Originally Posted by joe
I think,The movie got profit ,since it is low budget and funded by Govt . Originally Posted by MrJudge
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From: selvakumar on 20th June 2007 06:50 PM [Full View]
Judge, Originally Posted by MrJudge
I am not referring to how a director can do and how far he deals with the history of the leader. I am referring to the perception and the FEEL. I havenot seen Periyaar. so, cannot comment on this. But after seeing comments like seeing Satyaraj in the place of young periyaar, I thought that it would have been better had they gone for a COMMON MAN instead of a STAR.
Do u think many have an idea of how Young Kamaraj would have looked / behaved ? No one has that IF I am not wrong. (Not sure though)
But the person who played his role (YOung Kamaraj) ensured that the feel will be retained so that MADHURAM will reach the audience well.
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 08:17 PM [Full View]
periyar ! is no one knows how he looked like or behaved'
not even a stage speech footage ? or tape recording to hear his voice?
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 08:20 PM [Full View]
No..I had a link of audio clipping of his speach at T.Nager..I will try to find again and post here. Originally Posted by tfmlover
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 08:24 PM [Full View]
sad !
appo avara kanndu kollavillai
ippo padam eduthu enna punyam ?
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 08:32 PM [Full View]
Puriyalliye Originally Posted by tfmlover
Yaar kandu koLLavillai?
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 08:53 PM [Full View]
comparing to other leaders , his life history infos are limited i felt
i watched the movie too
i just liked the periyaar's conception only
sathyaraj will be always sathyaraj no matter how hard he tries
jothirmani ok..but when kusupoo opens her mouth..
that regular dubbing voice irritates
futhermore
maniyammai known as a very strong independent mind person (individualistically )
but movila Etho periyaarku Sevai seirathu mattum pola (a poor relation)
kaatiyirukaanga
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 08:55 PM [Full View]
Tfmlover,
ic ..Valid points.
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 08:56 PM [Full View]
i saw sivaji ganesan standing @ the end , the funeral scence . i clicked for my collection
i never saw that before
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From: joe on 20th June 2007 08:58 PM [Full View]
Yeah..I too noticed Originally Posted by tfmlover
Pls provide the link,if you uploaded.
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 08:59 PM [Full View]
hub slow could not log hopefully joe' you see this tmrw
i post here editing the previous
1 clip , few NT shots and a song
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m...ver1/Periyaar/
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/tfmlover1/KJY/
regards
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From: tfmlover on 20th June 2007 09:01 PM [Full View]
wait few mnts i upload the photo for u Originally Posted by joe
Yeah..I too noticed Originally Posted by tfmlover
Pls provide the link,if you uploaded.
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From: joe on 21st June 2007 09:49 AM [Full View]
Thanks a Lot Originally Posted by tfmlover
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From: MrJudge on 21st June 2007 12:15 PM [Full View]
I agree but my point was Satyaraj is a perfect fit for the role (Periyar with grey beard and old look). But I am sure that GRajasekaran must have tried atleast to get a picture of young periyar. I think no one has it. So no one has any clue of how he looked when he was young, so GRS has no other way. He had just to admit Satyaraj as he is in any regular movie for the younger role. If only he could have found any picture, I am sure he would have opted the perfect person for the younger role. Originally Posted by selvakumar
Ok, tell me one guy who is a fit for younger/older Kamaraj among our stars. Originally Posted by selvakumar
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From: smith1 on 10th July 2007 04:07 PM [Full View]
Younger kamaraj - Vijay
Older kamaraj - Rajini.
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From: littlemaster1982 on 10th July 2007 04:50 PM [Full View]
Smith, are you serious I think not
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From: ajaybaskar on 10th July 2007 04:52 PM [Full View]
Smith is kidding...
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From: smith1 on 10th July 2007 04:52 PM [Full View]
Seriously.
Kamaraj was dark in complexion. Never spoke much.
Vijay fits that.
Kamaraj was very active even in his old age.
Rajini fits that.
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From: ajaybaskar on 10th July 2007 04:54 PM [Full View]
Vijay is a good dancer
Kamaraj does not fit that.
Rajni throws his cigar and catches it with his lips?
Kamaraj?
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From: joe on 10th July 2007 04:55 PM [Full View]
Pls kamarajar-a vittudunga..avar punch dialogue-lam pesa mattaru.
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From: ajaybaskar on 10th July 2007 04:56 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Pls kamarajar-a vittudunga..avar punch dialogue-lam pesa mattaru. I forgot to add that...
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From: smith1 on 10th July 2007 04:56 PM [Full View]
aagattum paarkalam - this was kamaraj's usual refrain.
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From: Thirumaran on 10th July 2007 05:02 PM [Full View]
why not Originally Posted by joe
Pls kamarajar-a vittudunga..avar punch dialogue-lam pesa mattaru.
Let us add for our convenience.
Kamaraj to other Opposition leaders.
Naan Nadathura Arasiyal Pookadai..
Neenga nadathura Arasiyal Saakadai
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From: raaja_rasigan on 10th July 2007 06:20 PM [Full View]
Naan Nadathura Arasiyal Pookadai.. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
why not Originally Posted by joe
Pls kamarajar-a vittudunga..avar punch dialogue-lam pesa mattaru.
Let us add for our convenience.
Kamaraj to other Opposition leaders.
Naan Nadathura Arasiyal Pookadai..
Neenga nadathura Arasiyal Saakadai
en kitta varaadhinga Pongada dai...
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From: raaja_rasigan on 10th July 2007 06:22 PM [Full View]
Naan Nadathura Arasiyal Pookadai.. Originally Posted by Thirumaran
why not Originally Posted by joe
Pls kamarajar-a vittudunga..avar punch dialogue-lam pesa mattaru.
Let us add for our convenience.
Kamaraj to other Opposition leaders.
Naan Nadathura Arasiyal Pookadai..
Neenga nadathura Arasiyal Saakadai
en kitta varaadhinga Pongada dai...
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From: joe on 20th July 2007 08:04 AM [Full View]
"பெரியார் படம் பார்த்து பிரமிப்பு அடைந்தேன். நான் பெரியாரின் கொள்கைகளைத்தான் அறிந்திருக்கிறேன். அவருடைய வாழ்க்கை வரலாறு எனக்கு அவ்வளவாக தெரியாது. அவருடைய வாழ்க்கை வரலாற்றை அறிந்து அவர் மேல் எனக்கு இருந்த மதிப்பும், மரியாதையும் இன்னும் ஆயிரம் மடங்கு உயர்ந்து விட்டது. அவர் சமூக நலனுக்காக போராடிய காலங்களில் அவருடன் நாமும் இல்லையே என்ற ஏக்கம் படம் பார்க்கும் போது என் மனதில் ஏற்பட்டது" (நடிகர் ரஜினிகாந்த்)
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From: smith1 on 25th July 2007 04:16 PM [Full View]
Periyar aatma saanthi adaindathu.
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From: raaja_rasigan on 29th July 2007 01:30 PM [Full View]
சத்யராஜ் தனது மகன் சிபிராஜுடன் சேர்ந்து நடித்த வெற்றிப் படமான வெற்றிவேல் சக்திவேல் படத்தை கன்னடத்தில் ரீமேக் செய்கிறார்கள். கன்னடத்தின் பிரபல நடிகரான தேவராஜ். படத்தை தயாரிப்பதோடு நாயகனாக நடிக்கவும் செய்கிறார். சிபிராஜ் கேரக்டரில் தேவராஜின் மகனே நடிக்கவிருக்கிறார்.
http://www.dailythanthi.com/magazine...mpa_Cinema.htm
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From: smith1 on 30th July 2007 04:30 PM [Full View]
ennadhu?
vettrivel sakthivel vetri padama?
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From: joe on 30th July 2007 08:23 PM [Full View]
Periyar movie celebrating 100 days on Aug 8th.
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From: Thirumaran on 30th July 2007 09:37 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
Periyar movie celebrating 100 days on Aug 8th. Ithu Yaarai satisfy panna 100 days Oatraanga
Anyway if many movies were run for 100 days jut for the record why not a movie on Periyar. :P
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From: smith1 on 30th July 2007 09:41 PM [Full View]
vera yaaru!
95 lakhs koduthaare. avar thaan.
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From: joe on 31st July 2007 03:32 AM [Full View]
Athu Originally Posted by Thirumaran
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From: groucho070 on 31st July 2007 09:35 AM [Full View]
Exactly. Originally Posted by joe
Athu Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Not a great movie, but definitely greater than some of the dungfest disguised as movies that ran 100 days. Congratulation to the team. Hope the director goes on to make more interesting movies on interesting subject, but with better scripts. And hope Sathyaraj will stop making fans-shaming films like Adavadi.
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From: Devar Magan on 31st July 2007 11:25 AM [Full View]
Originally Posted by joe
nambitten..
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From: thilak4life on 31st July 2007 11:34 AM [Full View]
Lot of inconsistencies and contradiction in his statements. But thats his personal opinion, I guess!
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From: P_R on 31st July 2007 02:38 PM [Full View]
Satyaraj is working ona film with artsy director Jayabharathy. His last movie NanbA NanbA got ChandrashEkar the best supporting actor national award, but I think only the jury managed to seethe film. Originally Posted by groucho070
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From: smith1 on 31st July 2007 03:27 PM [Full View]
he did a movie by name kurukshetram - supposedly an off beat film.
Was it by jayabharathi?
sank without a trace.
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From: groucho070 on 31st July 2007 04:10 PM [Full View]
Forgot the name of the director. Supposedly off-the-beat, but more of missed-the-beat actually. He tried subtle reference to US/Iraq issue, but it fell flat. Sathyaraj did his level best playing a paranoid dad who lost his son during the terror attack. But it's a borefest. If you thought you have seen the most irritating performances of TalaiVasal Vijay, wait till you see this... Originally Posted by smith1
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From: raaja_rasigan on 8th August 2007 10:44 PM [Full View]
http://www.dinamalar.com/2007aug05varamalar/THUNUK.ASP
அப்பாவை மிரட்டும் சிபி!
அப்பா சத்யராஜ் வாயைக் கட்டி, வயிற்றைக் கட்டி சினிமாவில் சம்பாதித்த மொத்த பணத்தையும் அழிக்காமல் அடங்க மாட்டார் போலிருக்கு சிபிராஜ். "லீ' படத்தைத் தொடர்ந்து, மறுபடியும் அப்பாவை தயாரிப்பாளராக்கி விட்டிருக்கும் சிபி, இந்த முறை தயாரிக்கும் படத்தை ஹாலிவுட் பட ரேஞ்சுக்கு மெகா பட்ஜெட்டில் தயாரிக்கப் போவதாக சொல்லி, அப்பா சத்யராஜை மிரட்டி வருகிறார்.
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From: P_R on 8th August 2007 11:55 PM [Full View]
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
http://www.dinamalar.com/2007aug05varamalar/THUNUK.ASP
அப்பாவை மிரட்டும் சிபி!
அப்பா சத்யராஜ் வாயைக் கட்டி, வயிற்றைக் கட்டி சினிமாவில் சம்பாதித்த மொத்த பணத்தையும் அழிக்காமல் அடங்க மாட்டார் போலிருக்கு சிபிராஜ். "லீ' படத்தைத் தொடர்ந்து, மறுபடியும் அப்பாவை தயாரிப்பாளராக்கி விட்டிருக்கும் சிபி, இந்த முறை தயாரிக்கும் படத்தை ஹாலிவுட் பட ரேஞ்சுக்கு மெகா பட்ஜெட்டில் தயாரிக்கப் போவதாக சொல்லி, அப்பா சத்யராஜை மிரட்டி வருகிறார்.
I love Vaaramalar thuNukku moottai's style.
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From: sriranga on 9th August 2007 10:17 AM [Full View]
Periyar in a meeting,
"vara vazhiyila oru ayiru avar pullaiya pottu adikararu, 100kku 99 thaan vangi iruka, enga da pochu oru mark. antha oru mark enga pochu namma veeetu pulla vaangi vandhirukku"
audience in splits go into huge applause.
He was basically against a particular community, nothing more nothing less.
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From: joe on 9th August 2007 09:30 PM [Full View]
Ignorance is bliss. Originally Posted by sriranga
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From: joe on 9th August 2007 10:41 PM [Full View]
CM Speaks At Periyar Function
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, August 09, 2007]
Chief Minster M Karunanidhi presided over the 100th day celebration Periyar, a film on the life of rationalist leader (portraying the life of social reformer E V R Periyar) in Chennai Wednesday.
Commending his party leaders (DMK cadres) and workers for their efforts for the film's success, he said,” It would have been a shame if the film had not met with success. Periyar had toiled hard throughout his life and sacrificed everything so that Tamil could live with dignity".
On the occasion, he cautioned the Central government against reported moves to impose Hindi.
The DMK leader said,” A small spark can become a big fire”. Recalling that he started his political career at the age of 14 participating in a protest against imposition of Hindi, he said “I continue to have the same spirit, even if I am 84 now”.
Earlier, Karunanidhi presented the ring worn by Periyar for most of his life to actor Sathyaraj, who donned the role of Periyar, on behalf of the Dravidar Kazhagam.
He also inaugurated a building in the name of Sathyaraj at the DK headquarters. Shields were presented to Sathyaraj and Kushboo, who acted as Maniammai, Periyar's second wife.
Actor Sivakumar was also present to grace the occasion.
Dravidar Kazhagam President K Veeramani claimed,” The film was a big success in the western districts of the State, especially Salem, where all the shows till now were running to packed houses”. “The film was successful throughout Tamil Nadu including southern districts”, he added.
“The film, which was partly funded by the State government, had changed many persons' perception of Periyar. They included popular film star Rajnikanth, who had written a letter to him admiring Periyar. Rajnikanth had said that he had understood that Periyar was a great revolutionary leader, after seeing the film”, Veeramani said.
Sathyaraj praised Karunanidhi for his efforts in the production and release of the film. Kushboo said that her role in the film was the most difficult in her career, spanning about 150 films. She was confident that the film would be a box-office hit and was proud to play the role of Periyar's wife.