Ilayaraja and AR Rahman - A Comparative Study

[Sureshs65]

Apologies for the multiple posts.

S.Suresh

[Fliflo]

Guys,

this video might help your discussion further, I guess.

[complicateur]

Suresh - Thanks for the posts.

As a sample at the outset. Here is are samples from a predominantly vocal jazz ensemble.
In sets the jazz tone in the prelude with the use of the saxophone/trumpet before jumping in with the beats. The singularly diffferent thing about the singing is that it is almost simulating an instrument. The melody almost seems to be created for an instrument. The Singer (sounds like Devan but I cant be sure) does a commendabl job in bringing out that element. Until the point in the charaNam where he sings rathiyE ratham pOl nadanthEn nI varum vazhi engum, where the singing style is typically Indian with gamakams, the melody could almost easily be a jazz instrumental.
In contrast . rAjA prefers to use the piano and vocal backing.

[thilak4life]

Top post(s), Compli et Suresh.

[thamizhvaanan]

Nice posts Suresh & Compli

[Sureshs65]

Nice songs compli. Thanks.

While Mumbai Express song is good, I think the Yugandhar song that Raja did in late 70s has the jazz feel and a sort of breathlessness which is present in the Kadal Virus song . Both the sax and drumming are very good in the Yugandhar song. Especially watch out for the drumming in the initial part of the charanam.

You need to do some work to get this song. I couldn't get an online link. Download the 'Naa Paruvam' song of 'Yugandhar' from this cooltoad link: http://as07.cooltoad.com/music/song....49a1c3a3822fda

compli, while the singer does a good job in the Kadal Virus song, there is a fair bit of sound engineering magic as well to get the intended sound.

S.Suresh

[Sureshs65]

BTW, the cooltoad link says that the music of Yugandhar is by Satyam. Ignore it

S.Suresh

[Sanjeevi]

BTW, the cooltoad link says that the music of Yugandhar is by Satyam. Ignore it

S.Suresh

What do you mean?

who was the MD?

[Sureshs65]

Sorry for not stating it clearly. My mistake. Thanks Sanjeevi for pointing it out.

The MD was very much Illayaraja. No doubt about that. What I asked people to ignore is what was written in Cooltoad. So ignore the credits at Cooltoad and listen to the song.

S.Suresh

[Plum]

Suresh, ah! Yugandhar - I think I posted sometime on your blog about it. Daste daagedha might come close to trance that peeple were demanding.

Actually, ezhu swaram dhaan - namma pandradhu ellame emathu velainu sangeethathai pathi IR solvadhu pola, when it comes to IR-ARR, hub periyavanga already ellam pannittanga.
I remember 10 years back, two titans Srikanth D, a composer and Srinath, a bass guitar player squared off on Rakamma vs Veeravandi Kottaiyile. Srikanth being the expert argued succesfully in favour of the latter. But it is not really appropriate - comparisons cannot be between exactly similar items despite the sueprficial similarities as above - Mani movie, item song, grandeur etc.