Bala's Naan Kadavul

Naan Kadavul is (please vote after the movie release)

1.. Great, seen it once and will see again
2.. Ok movie, can watch it once

padam release aanadhukkappuram vote podanumaa Confused

padam release Avarathukku munnAdiyE padam parthirinthAlum vote pOdalAm

Ofcourse, Sarna, releasekku appuram thAn pOdanum. We can't change the polls at a later stage, that's why I inserted this future poll now.

From: Cinemarasigan on Mon Jan 5 7:49:42 2009.

Naan Kadavul is (please vote after the movie release)

1.. Great, seen it once and will see again
2.. Ok movie, can watch it once

padam release aanadhukkappuram vote podanumaa Confused

padam release Avarathukku munnAdiyE padam parthirinthAlum vote pOdalAm Very Happy

Ofcourse, Sarna, releasekku appuram thAn pOdanum. We can't change the polls at a later stage, that's why I inserted this future poll now. Sad

If the trend of postings are going to continue, then there may be a requirement of opening the next thread..

From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 7:54:32 2009.

Updated my first post...made it worthy for reserving

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jan 5 7:57:34 2009.

ரொம்ப கஷ்ட்மாதேன் இருக்கு 'சம்ஷ்க்ரிதொம்' But a beautiful language. The vibrations of the language with its rhythmic & poetic beauty is making my heart yield to Religion Not Worthy

Enjoy

From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 8:27:00 2009.

Raaja Saranam!

You've saved my time!!

Nandri hai

From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 8:29:22 2009.

I have never got exposure to mantras on Lord Shiva except Om NamaShivaya! This is the 1st time i'm hearing Rudhras.... It does create a vibration. Powerful indeed!!!

Enjoy

From: Anban on Mon Jan 5 8:29:43 2009.

Amma Un pillai naan ariyaathathu ennavo ??
From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 8:37:50 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Raaja Saranam!

You've saved my time!!

Nandri hai

I knew many people are trying to decipher the lyrics 'namakku konjame konjam (KV'la Padichathaala) samskrutham theriyum' Hence I tried my hands on it but it proved difficult and took hour to write down the lyrics, especially the chants that come second is very difficult. hope there are no mistakes

From: directhit on Mon Jan 5 8:44:39 2009.

I knew many people are trying to decipher the lyrics 'namakku konjame konjam (KV'la Padichathaala) samskrutham theriyum' Hence I tried my hands on it but it proved difficult and took hour to write down the lyrics, especially the chants that come second is very difficult. hope there are no mistakes Neutral

Raaja Saranam!

You've saved my time!!

Nandri hai Thank You

meaning too if psbl

From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 8:45:04 2009.

apdiyae translation potteengana ungalukku punniyamaa pogum...
From: Sanjeevi on Mon Jan 5 8:46:15 2009.

Wov second thread

I think this is first for a film without a star actor
From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 9:01:27 2009.

SS & directhit,

Meanings of few words are evading me. Need to refer to a good dictionary. If possible by tomorrow meaning will be posted.
From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 9:09:17 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

SS & directhit,

Meanings of few words are evading me. Need to refer to a good dictionary. If possible by tomorrow meaning will be posted.

konjam konjam purinjaalum podhum...
paathu pottu kudunga boss...

From: Cinemarasigan on Mon Jan 5 9:52:28 2009.

From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 10:06:39 2009.

Raaja Saranam!

You've saved my time!!

Nandri hai Thank You

Great Effort

From: Cinemarasigan on Mon Jan 5 9:57:02 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

Wov second thread

I think this is first for a film without a star actor

Bala & IR Combo is Rocking !
From: steveaustin on Mon Jan 5 10:01:12 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர மஹாதேவ்

RS Thankyou very much. If possible, please try to post all other songs too.

Wow! What a great man!!!!! IR - Really the musical God.....

I am sure that these emoticons are not enough to describe my feelings....... I am fully in tears even after listening so many times.... The man who made me really a mad with this album..... I am yet to get out of the shock of pleasure...... The feeling is just like I am holding my last breath to listen this album..... IMO, this might be the bestever album in IR's career which touches your soul very easily and takes you to the divine world in which I was never before.....

Sorry. I am out of words......... Still listening to nAn kadavul songs from January 2, 2009....
From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 10:04:46 2009.

RS.

I decided that I'l write down the lyrics... But thank god, you put it here... Romba sandhosham

Eppadiyum manappaadam pannidradhu-nu mudivu pannitten. New year resolution

ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர ஹர மஹாதேவ்

RS Thankyou very much. If possible, please try to post all other songs too.

Wow! What a great man!!!!! IR - Really the musical God.....
Not Worthy

I am sure that these emoticons are not enough to describe my feelings....... I am fully in tears even after listening so many times.... The man who made me really a mad with this album..... I am yet to get out of the shock of pleasure...... The feeling is just like I am holding my last breath to listen this album..... IMO, this might be the bestever album in IR's career which touches your soul very easily and takes you to the divine world in which I was never before.....

Sorry. I am out of words......... Still listening to nAn kadavul songs from January 2, 2009....

Me too.... very emotional

Salangai Oli -ya marandhutteengala Steve

From: steveaustin on Mon Jan 5 10:09:35 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Me too.... very emotional

Salangai Oli -ya marandhutteengala Steve

VR,
I am sorry. Loss of words. My mind have been emptied by the magic of IR...... Now nothing in my mind.... Only nAn kadavul songs echoing..... Even while typing this, I am still listening Bitchai pAthiram...... It's just like I am a mad...... No words to describe my emotions now...... I have been just washed away by the nAn kadavul Tsunami......

From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 11:11:33 2009.

ஓம் நமஸ்வாமாயச ருத்ராய ஜநமஸ்தமரயச ருடாய
ஜனமஷரிங்காயதபஸ்துபதஜே ஜநமஹுக்ராயச பீமாய
ஜனமோ ஹக்ரே வதாய சதுரே வதாய
ஜனமோ ஹந்த்ரே ஸஹமியதெ தனமோ வ்ருக்ஷே
ப்யோஹரிகேஷே ப்யோநமஸ்தராய நமஸ்ஷம்பவே
தம யோபவேச்ச நமஷங்கராய தபயஷ்கராய
தனமஷிவாய தஷிமதவாதச்சா....

Feeling it difficult to follow it

There seems to be few mistakes ;ere..

Will check it again RS

Quote:

கால த்ரிகால நேத்ர த்ரிநேத்ர சூழ திரிசூல காத்ரம்

I think, its சூல

From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 5 13:00:24 2009.

Check this link out for a glimpse into the sort of world that Bala is going to show us - After exploitation of tribals in Bodi mettu in ganja fields, it is going to be the foot hills of pazhani and flourishing beggary business there.. Need to get the 'ezhaam ulagam' and read it. Sounds very interesting and heart wrenching.
From: HonestRaj on Mon Jan 5 13:04:45 2009.

// Dig

This weeks Ananda Vikatan has an interview of Sasikumar.

Asked about Bala & Ameer:

Sasikumar: Annanunga annanunga-than naanga thambinga thambinga-than (when asked about their films esp.after Nan Kadavul's current development)

//end
From: irir123 on Mon Jan 5 18:50:19 2009.

where can I order NK album online ?? thx in advance
From: Nerd on Tue Jan 6 0:18:16 2009.

irir123 wrote:

where can I order NK album online ?? thx in advance

Usually http://www.anytamil.com carry Tamil albums. But they don't have NK yet, I am not surprised. I suggest you look in Hillcroft Ave. But I doubt if they carry the CDs.

From: rajasaranam on Tue Jan 6 1:50:15 2009.

கால த்ரிகால நேத்ர த்ரிநேத்ர சூழ திரிசூல காத்ரம்

Feeling it difficult to follow it Sad

There seems to be few mistakes ;ere.. Embarassed

Will check it again RS Smile

Quote:

I think, its சூல Smile

Atha muthalla Purinjikkave halfanhour Aachu. ippathaan konjam konjame koodave saernthu athae rhythm'la paada mudiyuthu.

Yes there are some spelling mistakes here & there

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 3:14:28 2009.

rs:

Thanks a lot for the lyrics.

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 3:17:21 2009.

I am sorry. Loss of words. My mind have been emptied by the magic of IR...... Now nothing in my mind.... Only nAn kadavul songs echoing..... Even while typing this, I am still listening Bitchai pAthiram...... It's just like I am a mad...... No words to describe my emotions now...... I have been just washed away by the nAn kadavul Tsunami......

Yes, no words to describe about his album, the best after 1992 from IR. This is definitely a Tsunami.

From: viraajan on Tue Jan 6 5:05:47 2009.

Naansennssse......

His pen 'maange' more
IndiaGlitz [Tuesday, January 06, 2009]

For the fifth year in-a-row, lyricist Na Muthukumar has emerged the lyricist who has penned the maximum number of songs for a year in Tamil cinema.

In 2008, he has penned songs for 30 films. He has totally written 103 songs. Some of the songs penned by Muthukumar include Taxi Taxi (Sakkaraikatti), Choo�Choo�Mari (Poo). Mudhal Mazhai (Bheemaa), Adada Adada (Santhosh Subramaniyam) and Machaa Machaan (Silambattam).

Muthukumar is currently writing for songs in films including Endhiran, Naan Kadavul, Siva Manasula Sakthi, Nandhalala, Jaggubhai, Jagan Mohini among others.

--
From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 5:08:20 2009.

maybe they meant "yaar kadavul"...
a famous title which went in rounds an year back...
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jan 6 5:11:58 2009.

Oh, time for a list-a?
In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.
From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 5:35:32 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Oh, time for a list-a?
In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

For me its
1."how to name it"
2. putril vaazh aravam
3.sethu...

forever...

From: kamalsurya on Tue Jan 6 5:45:11 2009.

I have never got exposure to mantras on Lord Shiva except Om NamaShivaya! This is the 1st time i'm hearing Rudhras.... It does create a vibration. Powerful indeed!!!

Enjoy

When is the movie releasing??

From: viraajan on Tue Jan 6 7:44:45 2009.

pongal release i believ
From: Plum on Tue Jan 6 7:50:02 2009.

RS, ungalaiye religion-udaya vilimila kondu vara Rajavale dhaan mudiyum. Innum ketkalai NK - Mumbai-le enge kidaikkum theriyale. Aanal, indha statement by you tells me about what to expect
From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 8:35:43 2009.

எந்த புண்ணியவான்களோ அதுக்குள்ள 2 வோட்டு போட்டாச்சு
From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 8:36:44 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Oh, time for a list-a?
In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.
From: ajaybaskar on Tue Jan 6 8:40:07 2009.

viraajan wrote:

pongal release i believ

I heard its releasing on 30th of Jan.
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jan 6 8:55:57 2009.

My Quick Review of music album

Though IR is very good in 'Amma un pillai' he didn't succeed the level he achieved previously in Ak our prem kahani, Shiva (hindi) and Cheeni kum. I meant in reproducing his old song again. But I like that song. Om Sivoaham is wonderful song in the genre it sits. It is 'Kannil Paarvai' which is my pick of album since it gives 'the feel' to me.

I wonder how the albums gives unique feel though one song (tune) composed some 20+ years before and with another 10 year old song. That is one of the reasons of victory of this album. But at the same time on the whole I am slightly disppointed since no 'Ilangaathu veesuthey' kind of song (I was expected).

I read somewhere NK will have fun scenes same like Pithamagan had. If Bala can put humour why should not give place for a feel free song like 'Ilangaathu veesuthey'?.
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jan 6 8:57:01 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

Hey Raam

From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 9:02:49 2009.

In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

Sethu... and ya, Hey Ram as well...

From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 9:04:22 2009.

My Quick Review of music album

Though IR is very good in 'Amma un pillai' he didn't succeed the level he achieved previously in Ak our prem kahani, Shiva (hindi) and Cheeni kum. I meant in reproducing his old song again. But I like that song. Om Sivoaham is wonderful song in the genre it sits. It is 'Kannil Paarvai' which is my pick of album since it gives 'the feel' to me.

I wonder how the albums gives unique feel though one song (tune) composed some 20+ years before and with another 10 year old song. That is one of the reasons of victory of this album. But at the same time on the whole I am slightly disppointed since no 'Ilangaathu veesuthey' kind of song (I was expected).

I read somewhere NK will have fun scenes same like Pithamagan had. If Bala can put humour why should not give place for a feel free song like 'Ilangaathu veesuthey'?.

oru moonu vaaram wait pannunga....
unga kaelvikku ellaam badhil kidaikkum...
yarukku theriyum, neengalae ungala appo thittalaam... indha madhiri oru padatthula apdi oru paatta edhir patthomaenu....

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 9:34:28 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

Hey Raam

No way! It has an average number 'rAmar AnAlum'.

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 9:37:11 2009.

In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

Sethu... and ya, Hey Ram as well...

sEthu had 'kAnak karunkuyilE'..though it was good, a non-sense song.

In NK all songs have 'jeevan' just like pre-92 songs of IR.

From: Sanjeevi on Tue Jan 6 9:37:34 2009.

BTW I could relate some songs to some older songs

Amma Un pilla - Mani oosai kettu ezhunthu (Payanangal Mudivathillai)
Om Sivoaham - Isaiyil Thodanguthamma (Hey Raam)

From: rajasaranam on Tue Jan 6 9:46:39 2009.

RS, ungalaiye religion-udaya vilimila kondu vara Rajavale dhaan mudiyum. Innum ketkalai NK - Mumbai-le enge kidaikkum theriyale. Aanal, indha statement by you tells me about what to expect

internetla D/L Panni kaetkrathu illaiya neenga?!!

From: rajasaranam on Tue Jan 6 9:49:57 2009.

In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

avathaaram, Guru(mal.), heyram

From: viraajan on Tue Jan 6 10:14:24 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

BTW I could relate some songs to some older songs

Amma Un pilla - Mani oosai kettu ezhunthu (Payanangal Mudivathillai)
Om Sivoaham - Isaiyil Thodanguthamma (Hey Raam)

Sila pookkal thaane malargindradhu..... - Yedhedho Ennam, Punnagai Mannan

Jenmangalil paavam pen jenmame - Amma un pillai, NK

Especially the ending raagam....

//When i sing the lines from Amma Un Pillai, I automatically switch to the tune of "sila pookal" tune
I tried my best to sing it in the way Sadhana sings... Till now couldn't get it right
From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 10:16:35 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

BTW I could relate some songs to some older songs

Amma Un pilla - Mani oosai kettu ezhunthu (Payanangal Mudivathillai)
Om Sivoaham - Isaiyil Thodanguthamma (Hey Raam)

Pichaipaatthiram some how reminds me - Poo maalai from Sindhu bairavi...
From: viraajan on Tue Jan 6 10:19:07 2009.

I still remember.

Katradhu Tamil audio was released somewhere in the mid of Aug/Sept 2007.
I listened only to those five songs continuously (without changing the playlist) for atleast 10 days... crossing 100 times Yuvan's best effort in his career....
After KT (after 1 1/2 yrs), this is the album which i'm listening to continuously, in my mob, sys, dvd player....

It's been 5 days since i listened to the other movie songs (except one or two)...

Ketka ketka paravasam

Veetula ellarum pandranga

From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 10:21:01 2009.

In my mind, without doubt Thiruvasagam is the best album of IR in the last decade or two. Infact, its right at the top of Raaja's best ever.

I mean.. a movie soundtrack, tell me which one betters NK.

Sethu... and ya, Hey Ram as well...

sEthu had 'kAnak karunkuyilE'..though it was good, a non-sense song.

In NK all songs have 'jeevan' just like pre-92 songs of IR.

i cant agree that song to be a non-sense... even if thats the case, the situation needed that song... and i liked the way the fight sequence overlap the end of this song...

and just cos it had this song, u cannot underrate this album... which had two out of the world master pieces... "enge sellum" and vaarthai thavari vittai"...

and i remember one more song in that album... kaadhalenna kaadhalenna katthirikkaayaa.... acc to me thats the non-sense song...

From: Vivasaayi on Tue Jan 6 10:24:17 2009.

pithamagan had two great songs

adada agangara and ilangaathu veesuthey!

one was grand and scintillating while the other one had a breeze effect.
From: viraajan on Tue Jan 6 10:25:06 2009.

SoftSword wrote:

and just cos it had this song, u cannot underrate this album... which had two out of the world master pieces... "enge sellum" and vaarthai thavari vittai"...

You missed "Maalai en vedhanai" song.... One of the best love songs with fantastic lyrics

From: SoftSword on Tue Jan 6 10:27:39 2009.

and just cos it had this song, u cannot underrate this album... which had two out of the world master pieces... "enge sellum" and vaarthai thavari vittai"...

You missed "Maalai en vedhanai" song.... One of the best love songs with fantastic lyrics Bow

i dont dislike taht song...
but for me... the feel these two songs gives me everytime i hear them... i love to sing both these songs...

u know i had recorded these two songs back to back in a TDK 90 cassette...
and at one point of time, the only other cassette which could replace this from my player is the "how to name it?"

From: Nerd on Tue Jan 6 10:32:23 2009.

Apart from raamar aaaNdaalum, pollAdha madhana baaNam was irritating too (except the last minute which was divine). Hey Raam BGM was out of the world though. Avathaaram, kAdhalukku mariyAthai, virumaaNdi, Bharathi etc. And there were numerous movies in which at least two songs were superb.
From: Plum on Tue Jan 6 10:52:57 2009.

RS, Download panradhu undu dhaan. But it makes sense to download the rare ones like Unaroo etc. Idhu kasu koduthu dhaan ketkardhunu pidivadhama irukken. Konjam wait aanalum parava illai.

From: Avadi to America on Tue Jan 6 11:30:00 2009.

Apart from raamar aaaNdaalum, pollAdha madhana baaNam was irritating too (except the last minute which was divine). Hey Raam BGM was out of the world though. Avathaaram, kAdhalukku mariyAthai, virumaaNdi, Bharathi etc. And there were numerous movies in which at least two songs were superb.

Avatharam back ground musicla illayaraj pinni eduthu irrupar....Indian ENIO MORRICONE is none other than ilayaraja....

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 12:59:10 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

avathaaram, Guru(mal.), heyram

I was talking about tamil film albums alone. Yes, avatharam.... possible.... How did I forget it?

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 13:04:12 2009.

Every album has couple of good/great songs and a couple of average numbers. My point is this album on the whole has all tracks good and enjoyable and I must say NK is the best for Bala's movies so far.

From: MrJudge on Tue Jan 6 13:06:04 2009.

Yes, the best in any Indian cinema...It was so subtle and so good.

From: Cinemarasigan on Tue Jan 6 13:33:40 2009.

Yes, the best in any Indian cinema...It was so subtle and so good.

Initially L.Suppramaniam had done the BGM, Kamal got irritated with that work and given the job to IR..

From: directhit on Tue Jan 6 21:28:53 2009.

Atleast one song out of all prev Bala movies had some kinda happy/fun song. In NK it seems to be a pathos/eerie/devotional effect altogether. Cant wait for the movie aana Arya/Pooja ellam comedy naraya irukkunnu vera kozhappuraanga

RS Sir - andha meaning
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 7 0:34:49 2009.

ஜெயமோகன் நான் கடவுள் பற்றி - அருமை அருமை!
From: equanimus on Wed Jan 7 2:45:47 2009.

Jeyamohan repeatedly insists that it is an intense action film. Interesting!
From: PoonaiKutty on Wed Jan 7 2:52:17 2009.

Indha movie enna madhiri irundhaalum Ok .. anaa thayavu senju Bala idhulayum movie endingaa tragedyaaa oru paraankallu range la vekkama irukkanum

I had to ask my bro to play 'Dunsten Checks In' in order to not cry hard after finishing watching Sethu .. daaamn the ending
From: rajasaranam on Wed Jan 7 3:22:29 2009.

Nerd wrote:

ஜெயமோகன் நான் கடவுள் பற்றி - அருமை அருமை!

Good insights about the movie...Expectations are growing.
One thing he said about the aghoris clarified some of the doubts...Asai, achcham, Aruvaruppu thurappathu...gives a deeper understanding about their cult & practices.
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jan 7 4:20:58 2009.

Vivasaayi wrote:

pithamagan had two great songs

adada agangara and ilangaathu veesuthey!

one was grand and scintillating while the other one had a breeze effect.

I liked Ilangaathu and Piraye Piraye more than the others
From: sarna_blr on Wed Jan 7 4:21:03 2009.

naan kadavul release date confirm aayiduchchaa ?
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Jan 7 4:22:07 2009.

Judge,
Ippo irukkara mana nilaila endha mudivum edukkaradhu nalladhilla
Unarchi thaakkamum vegamum korayattum....
From: viraajan on Wed Jan 7 4:22:16 2009.

Special addition to Naan Kadavul!
January 7, 2009

Naan Kadavul's audio album now has a recent addition, a gift of sorts by Maestro Ilayaraja. After the movie's composition was over, Ilayaraja seems to have felt the urge to add another song on Lord Shiva in the movie. The new song penned and sung by the maestro himself, will be featured in the film's title track.

Most of the other songs, written by Vaali, have already won wide acclaim from the music critics and lovers alike. Especially the goose-bump inducing Sanskrit number seems to be on its way topping the charts, aver music buffs. Naan Kadavul is slated for a Pongal release.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-02/naan-kadavul-07-01-09.html

One more song
From: sarna_blr on Wed Jan 7 4:25:29 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Naan Kadavul is slated for a Pongal release.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-02/naan-kadavul-07-01-09.html

Pongalukku release pannaa nallaa irukkum collection allalaam
From: viraajan on Wed Jan 7 4:32:16 2009.

Aarvam thangale enakku

Seekiram release pannina pakkalam

Wait panna mudiyala
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Jan 7 5:07:31 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

Nerd wrote:

ஜெயமோகன் நான் கடவுள் பற்றி - அருமை அருமை!

Initial-A konjam uLkuththu irukkApla thONdudhu.

Anyway, interesting interview. JM impressive as always. Looking forward to that "lonely" scene.
From: Sanjeevi on Wed Jan 7 5:15:49 2009.

நான் கடவுள் ஆடியோ
புலம்பும் ரசிகர்கள்

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2009/January/070109b.asp
From: Sanjeevi on Wed Jan 7 7:07:53 2009.

Nerd wrote:

ஜெயமோகன் நான் கடவுள் பற்றி - அருமை அருமை!

I understand who is Agori :thankyou: Jeyamohan

From: Anban on Wed Jan 7 8:22:06 2009.

pithamagan had two great songs

adada agangara and ilangaathu veesuthey!

one was grand and scintillating while the other one had a breeze effect.

Vivasaayi wrote:

I liked Ilangaathu and Piraye Piraye more than the others

yes.. pithamagan has 3 super songs.. IMHO naan kadavul's songs arent as good as pithamagan. but, after watching the movie my opinion might change..

From: MrJudge on Wed Jan 7 8:28:28 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Judge,
Ippo irukkara mana nilaila endha mudivum edukkaradhu nalladhilla
Unarchi thaakkamum vegamum korayattum....

illa CR, I think I'm convinced and I've come to a conclusion already.

From: A_Ajith on Wed Jan 7 17:01:41 2009.

Special addition to Naan Kadavul!
January 7, 2009

Naan Kadavul's audio album now has a recent addition, a gift of sorts by Maestro Ilayaraja. After the movie's composition was over, Ilayaraja seems to have felt the urge to add another song on Lord Shiva in the movie. The new song penned and sung by the maestro himself, will be featured in the film's title track.

Most of the other songs, written by Vaali, have already won wide acclaim from the music critics and lovers alike. Especially the goose-bump inducing Sanskrit number seems to be on its way topping the charts, aver music buffs. Naan Kadavul is slated for a Pongal release.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-02/naan-kadavul-07-01-09.html

RedJump

One more song Boo

Yes OM SIVA OM is very disturbing number indeed it creates goose bumps

From: A_Ajith on Wed Jan 7 17:07:28 2009.

VIjay dance, Vijay mass, Nayan Glamour, Vadivel Super Duper COmedy, Prabu Deva's Direction idhellam meeri NAAN KADAVUL hit aaganumna chancey ila.

Hope they better release this movie in March only then VILLU Fever will die down or else Villu will create a dent on NK!
From: directhit on Wed Jan 7 22:34:24 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Anyway, interesting interview. JM impressive as always. Looking forward to that "lonely" scene.
yes!! infact cant wait for the movie - looks like Jan 30 is the day
From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 8 1:38:53 2009.

directhit,

Sorry Iam not able to take out sometime to complete the translation Should be able to do it by weekend hopefully!
From: directhit on Thu Jan 8 1:40:29 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

directhit,

Sorry Iam not able to take out sometime to complete the translation Should be able to do it by weekend hopefully!
np - thanks and waiting

From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 8 1:43:07 2009.

Quote:

"ஹாலிவுட் சினிமாவின் ஒரே ஒரு ஜீனியஸ் சார்லி சாப்ளின்" என்று சொன்னாராம் பெர்னார்ட்ஷா. தமிழ் சினிமாவின் ஒரே ஒரு ஜீனியஸாக யாரைச் சொல்வீர்கள்?
" இளையராஜா "
அரசு கேள்வி - பதில்கள், குமுதம் 14.01.2009

CharuNiveditha Thavirththu Ellarkkum intha unmai therinjirikku

From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 8 2:44:40 2009.

Quote:

From: directhit on Thu Jan 8 2:48:10 2009.
From: complicateur on Thu Jan 8 2:51:26 2009.

The lyrics are wrong in one part certainly. The lines are
VyOmakEsa mahAsEna JanakA, Panchavakra Parasuhastha Namaha.

VyOmakesA - The one whose hair is as dark as eternal space.
From: directhit on Thu Jan 8 2:54:03 2009.

Deepauk, keep em coming
From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 8 4:00:59 2009.

directhit,

Intha varigal almost 90% theriyum (almost hindi'la irukka intha ella words'um) aana antha rudra manthram and the first slokavukku thaan meanings thedikittu irukken

From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 8 4:02:36 2009.

The lyrics are wrong in one part certainly. The lines are
VyOmakEsa mahAsEna JanakA, Panchavakra Parasuhastha Namaha.

VyOmakesA - The one whose hair is as dark as eternal space.

Vaanga Vaanga michathayum sollidunga

From: Hulkster on Thu Jan 8 7:39:17 2009.

Quote:

Alex ♪ராஜாவின்
@ராஜ் கமல்
they say naan kadavul audio has a addition song is it true mods clarify.....please

Yes 2 more songs inculded by Raaja sir after shoot (during RR session )

1. TITLE song abt Lord shiva (one more song abt L Siva ) Penned and Sung by Raajasir

2. One Hindi Song (surprise package ) ...sung by Udit Narayanan ( first time in Tamil movie ) hindustani Gazals Styles

Courtesy of Orkut

From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 8 7:54:22 2009.

Two climax for 'Naan Kadavul'

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44121.html
From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 8 7:58:04 2009.

'Naan Kadavul' � The Aghori adherent

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44156.html
From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 8 8:05:43 2009.

steveaustin wrote:

Two climax for 'Naan Kadavul'

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44121.html

This rumour has lived for so long now. It's about time to put it to rest and start a new one. After listened to the songs, here is my rumour: Arya dies at the hands of a notorious villain and Pooja, what will that angel do? She becomes an 'aghori'
From: complicateur on Thu Jan 8 13:35:05 2009.

directhit/rajasaranm: ippOthaikku definite-a therinjathu avvaLavu thAn.

From: Cinemarasigan on Thu Jan 8 14:34:10 2009.

Ilaiyaraja isaiamaittha kaalatthula naamum vaazhndhom-ngarathu namakku kidaitha perum baakkiyam..

Quote:

CharuNiveditha Thavirththu Ellarkkum intha unmai therinjirikku Smile

From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 9 1:32:37 2009.

"FAVE DIRECTORS
Satyajit Ray for the poetic nature of his films Sridhar for simplicity and Bala, among the current crop"
- Mysskin.
From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 9 2:41:58 2009.

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/912009/MDSG254552_CBE_ALL.jpg
From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 9 4:17:42 2009.

Since Satyam is not screening 'Villu', Naan Kadavul is relasing for Pongal? any info?
From: directhit on Fri Jan 9 4:22:13 2009.

HonestRaj wrote:

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/912009/MDSG254552_CBE_ALL.jpg
wow super pic

sanjeevi sir - satyam la mattum release panni enna pannuvanga
From: irir123 on Fri Jan 9 6:02:14 2009.

HonestRaj wrote:

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/912009/MDSG254552_CBE_ALL.jpg

interesting nose ring!
From: thamiz on Fri Jan 9 13:32:10 2009.

Bala has been in a cine field for a while but "naan kadavuL" is just fourth movie of his!
From: complicateur on Fri Jan 9 21:19:18 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Anyway, interesting interview. JM impressive as always. Looking forward to that "lonely" scene.

PR: JeyamOhan actually gives away a little bit - though how Bala captures the intensity of the loneliness (kadavuLE illAtha thanimai) is to be seen. He states that there is significant aaL nadamAttam around him. So in all probability the stasis/loneliness is shown in relative terms (aaLkoottaththil thaniyE).
Another article on the title.
From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 9 21:49:24 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Another article on the title.

Interesting article, as always.
btw didn't get his geethai tharuNam article, which you were referring to.

Quote:

நண்பர் மூச்சுவாங்கினார்

The pic where everyone is looking at the camera is just beautiful.

btw Super SubbarAyan this time I see. Not Stun Siva this time.

complicateur wrote:

(aaLkoottaththil thaniyE).
This is also a Malayalam film isn't it ?
From: complicateur on Fri Jan 9 23:30:25 2009.

//dig. PR: Yes it is a malayALam movie. Scripted by M.T.Vasudevan Nair end dig.//
Yes I was surprised that Stun Siva wasn't reused after the effort with creating the realistic sounds with the meat in PithAmagan.
From: ajaybaskar on Fri Jan 9 23:33:06 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

Since Satyam is not screening 'Villu', Naan Kadavul is relasing for Pongal? any info?

Heard that the film is releasing on 30th of this month. Not sure though

From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 9 23:37:13 2009.

//dig. PR: Yes it is a malayALam movie. Scripted by M.T.Vasudevan Nair end dig.//
Yes I was surprised that Stun Siva wasn't reused after the effort with creating the realistic sounds with the meat in PithAmagan.

In particular the fight - I mean the assault

- in the lock-up with the policemen was incredibly stunning. We Tamil Cinema audience have been inured by years of every hero twisting the henchman's head like the cap of a soft drink bottle. Yet we have the selfsame thing done but with 'real' impact and rawness that makes you go "whoa".

Super Subbarayan has still got it though. I remember being quite impressed with the stunts in Ghajini.

From: directhit on Fri Jan 9 23:58:35 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Another article on the title.
nice article some nice statements too
From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 10 3:20:22 2009.

-deleted-
From: sourav on Sat Jan 10 3:35:51 2009.

nk patthi mattum pesuna nallarukkum....
From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 10 4:01:52 2009.

sourav wrote:

nk patthi mattum pesuna nallarukkum....

Sari sari koveekkaatheega
From: viraajan on Sat Jan 10 4:06:35 2009.

sourav wrote:

nk patthi mattum pesuna nallarukkum....

right..vidunga...
From: sourav on Sat Jan 10 4:19:34 2009.
From: A_Ajith on Sun Jan 11 9:28:30 2009.

This movie has the chance to become the first superhit of the year.
From: mareen on Sun Jan 11 16:25:11 2009.

already 4 votes
From: bimmer on Sun Jan 11 18:21:10 2009.

-delete-
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Jan 11 18:25:33 2009.

Quote:

(please vote after the movie release)
From: Anban on Mon Jan 12 3:12:40 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Quote:

(please vote after the movie release)

Thanks to Bala, Arya, Arthur Wilson, Ilayaraja and Jeya Mohan
From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 12 3:42:24 2009.

mareen wrote:

already 4 votes

7 votes now.. for all those people who voted.
From: sourav on Mon Jan 12 3:47:00 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

mareen wrote:

already 4 votes

7 votes now.. for all those people who voted.
Sari neenga yethukku athukkula poll add panneenga...we can add poll at anytime...
From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 12 3:48:14 2009.

sourav wrote:

we can add poll at anytime...

No, we can't as far as I know.
From: sourav on Mon Jan 12 3:51:04 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

sourav wrote:

we can add poll at anytime...

No, we can't as far as I know.
i added poll for WWE thread after 2 days... RK added poll for sachin thread after 2 months...

From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 12 4:02:16 2009.

we can add poll at anytime...

No, we can't as far as I know.

i added poll for WWE thread after 2 days... RK added poll for sachin thread after 2 months... Smile

Is it? I thought once we create a thread, we can't add/alter poll at a later date. So looks like we can add it later but can't alter it. Thanks, man.

From: sourav on Mon Jan 12 4:09:32 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Is it? I thought once we create a thread, we can't add/alter poll at a later date. So looks like we can add it later but can't alter it. Thanks, man.
no issues.

//End dign.
From: NOV on Mon Jan 12 4:11:38 2009.

Let me see what I can do...
From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 12 8:33:39 2009.

naan illaipa!!!
From: A_Ajith on Mon Jan 12 17:30:34 2009.

This movie really has a great chance for being the first HIT of the year, since pongal releases are bombing one by one
From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 12 19:45:26 2009.

It will be fun to get your reactions on this link on Aghoris!!
From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 12 23:30:47 2009.

NOV wrote:

Let me see what I can do...

Thanks, please change it back once the movie releases.
From: Nerd on Thu Jan 15 15:43:33 2009.

Naan Kadavul
Bala's Naan Kadavul has risen above all definitions and views.

It is not easy to sum up the theme of Naan Kadavul with a catchy one-liner. It is also not easy to fix its perspective in one narrow version. Bala's Naan Kadavul has risen above all definitions and views. Rather than routinely evaluating the movie's credits and loopholes, the narrative is more understandable if looked upon as the creator's intense expression expressed through a variety of characters in the visual field. The benefit will be more if the understanding and application are purely left to individual capability and maturity.

Contrary to the popular views, branding the film as one based on the debate of atheism vs. religion, the movie revolves around the life of an individual named Rudran. Is he a Godman?Is he the 'Kadavul' in the film? Is he a saint, a person who shuns life, its pain and pleasures? Well, he defies fixed identities awarded to individuals based on their lives and deeds. In a way, he is extraordinary and exudes immense energy; he is furiously driven by an unseen force. Rudran is recognizably different from most human beings, yet one amongst us. Though his looks and manner are unkempt, harsh and misleading, and he does not let his greatness show, the wisdom escapes from within this powerful man. So how does one describe Rudran? For common men, he is bizarre and harmful. But for those who view him profoundly, he is a living power symbolising the combination of the most controversial things in God's creation; he stands for triumphs and evil, light and dark, good and bad; his power and majesty lies principally in his unusual assortment. His ideals are practical, not governed by worldly rules; he is certainly not a device of destruction. But his ferocity singes those who deceive themselves and the world by flaunting their cheap instruments of divinity and who display false power and influence.

However, Rudran is not alone; he is flanked by his favourite people, his affectionate associates. These people are physically-challenged and poor. Their fellow men mock at their abnormal physical appearances and treat them as insignificant creatures, as earth's useless burden. But, amid the crushing poverty and societal snubbing, their work-hardened bodies and enlivening smiles know nothing other than love and endurance. For them, Rudran is their master. He is the spirit of God who has come upon earth to guide them, to take them past hazards and loathing.

According to Bala, the world's spirituality rests on these people's innocent smiles, germinates on their deeds and matures on their sacred lives. But what if one of them is a member of our own family? What if the suffering lot has an inherent link to us? Naan Kadavul discusses the pain and irony arising out of such a demanding and hypothetical situation. Pooja appears as Amsavalli. Does this pretty lady cast an emotional influence on Rudran? Does it blossom into a full-fledged relationship? Don't miss the intriguing and thought-provoking fare on the big screen to find out more about Rudran, Amsavalli and others who you possibly ignored till now.

In his attempt to give life to such a remarkable theme, Bala has taken maximum efforts. He took almost a month to shoot a climax fight. The total shooting has gone on for two years with a lengthy schedule in and around Kasi. With a rough beard and long unkempt locks, Arya is inseperable from Rudran and has come to terms with all his tough ideals. Pooja has transformed into Amsavalli.

"In addition to Arya and Pooja, cameraman Arthur Wilson has toiled for the film as much as I have and Ilayaraja's music has pumped life and energy for the film," says Bala. With all these details wrapped up to his satisfaction, Bala is now waiting to market the movie successfully without the usual stance of a creator who holds his product close to his chest and claims it to be the best.
From: cujoo on Thu Jan 15 16:47:25 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Naan Kadavul
Bala's Naan Kadavul has risen above all definitions and views.

When they are releasing the Movie ???
From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Jan 16 14:51:13 2009.

cujoo wrote:

Nerd wrote:

Naan Kadavul
Bala's Naan Kadavul has risen above all definitions and views.

When they are releasing the Movie ???

End of Jan...
From: thamiz on Fri Jan 16 15:15:14 2009.

Who was the "first hero" to be considered for this/

vikram?

then ajith

then aaryaa?
From: Anban on Fri Jan 16 16:29:36 2009.

is Naan Kadavul going to clash with Nandalaala??

oh no. that will be unfortunate..

my money is on Nandhalala if it happens...
From: MrJudge on Sat Jan 17 1:31:07 2009.

Anban wrote:

is Naan Kadavul going to clash with Nandalaala??

oh no. that will be unfortunate..

my money is on Nandhalala if it happens...

I am not able to choose between the two but NL has an edge over NK. My guess is NK will have authentic tamil flavor and people outside TN will not be able to understand and appreciate it as much as NL. I believe Mysskin has the potential to take tamil movies globally.
From: MrJudge on Sat Jan 17 2:16:55 2009.

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2009/January/160109b.asp

From: jaiganes on Sat Jan 17 2:20:30 2009.

is Naan Kadavul going to clash with Nandalaala??

oh no. that will be unfortunate..

my money is on Nandhalala if it happens...

I am not able to choose between the two but NL has an edge over NK. My guess is NK will have authentic tamil flavor and people outside TN will not be able to understand and appreciate it as much as NL. I believe Mysskin has the potential to take tamil movies globally.

Quite the contrary on the tamil flavor part.
The songs dont sound international - they sound very thamizh - hitting the soft spot of thamizh ethos. Naan Kadavul is the all india thingy. the theme of NK is quite universal.
I agree that Mysskin has it in him to take thamizh culture globally.

From: Hulkster on Sat Jan 17 8:23:36 2009.

Well NK songs are not so thamizh. There is a hindustani ghazal and om sivoham is sanskrit. NK songs are only supposed to have two as well. I am guessing Om Sivoham to be definitely one of them.

Well as for the internationally appreciation stuff...music has no barriers and the focus will be on the background score which will certainly bring in some attention.

From: MrJudge on Sat Jan 17 9:16:06 2009.

jaiganes,

I wasn't talking about the songs. My observation is based on their movies. If you consider songs,yes, NL has tamil flavor and so is NK (may be excluding couple of tracks). Mysskin watches a lot of world cinema and he has been adapting them into his movies. But Bala has been making movies from his own experiences mostly, so it is difficult for the people who are alien to the rural lifestyles of TN to understand and appreciate.

From: ajaybaskar on Mon Jan 19 9:43:42 2009.

Why has IR used ARR's WOHE track in the trailer of Naan Kadavul?
From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 19 10:05:45 2009.

endha trailer? link pampinchandi!
link kudunga
official trailerla Sivoham song bits thaan irundhadhu
From: ajaybaskar on Mon Jan 19 10:37:33 2009.

Jai,

Doubt cleared. I was referring to the music which comes when the title logo is shown... IR didnt do the promo bit it seems...
From: irir123 on Mon Jan 19 14:50:34 2009.

why do all our trailers have this irritating digitized "shhhsk" kind of sounds accompanying the intro titles ??!

uggh and eeks - dont our people know the meaning for the word 'subtlety' ? ellamey, ippadi anaavasiyamaana thadabudalaagathhaan irukkanumaa ?

From: Anban on Mon Jan 19 16:33:13 2009.

why do all our trailers have this irritating digitized "shhhsk" kind of sounds accompanying the intro titles ??!

uggh and eeks - dont our people know the meaning for the word 'subtlety' ? ellamey, ippadi anaavasiyamaana thadabudalaagathhaan irukkanumaa ?

gud question..

but bala is far from subtlety .. his movies arent loud but he keeps on showing off his "offbeat" attitude..

From: jaiganes on Mon Jan 19 17:09:21 2009.

Bala is all about sensationalism!!!
And sensationalism in an altogether offbeat way
From: A_Ajith on Mon Jan 19 17:13:52 2009.

No love no glamour no happiness no bleedy sentimeeeent no bong babes no micro minis no stupid air borne stunts..... Bala indeed rocks with his intense characterization!!!

I want one more psycho movie to enjoy

From: irir123 on Tue Jan 20 10:11:01 2009.

gud question..

but bala is far from subtlety .. his movies arent loud but he keeps on showing off his "offbeat" attitude..

its not abt bala alone - most recent films from India have trailers which are so gawdy in their intro sounds, its very very embarassing!

From: steveaustin on Tue Jan 20 10:36:21 2009.

'Naan Kadavul will be a path-breaking film' - Arya

Arya is bubbling with joy. The young actor is happy with the fact that his 'Naan Kadavul' is all set to hit the screens soon. 'It's been three years since we started this project. But I have no regrets as it's been great. We worked hard for almost every frame. Thanks to Bala, the movie has shaped up well and I am confident that it would become a path-breaking film'.

Arya says, ' besides Bala, everyone involved in the project have contributed their best. Ilayaraja's background music is another major asset to the movie. I am confident that 'Nan Kadavul' would be a movie to reckon with in my career.

Also Vishnuvardhan's 'Sarvam' starring Arya in the lead will be hitting the screens soon after 'Naan Kadavul'. Trisha plays the heroine in this movie. The movie's shooting schedules has been completed and it's waiting in the line to be out after 'Naan Kadavul'.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44368.html
From: directhit on Tue Jan 20 21:13:08 2009.

cheekiram release pannungappa
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 21 1:22:28 2009.

There are ads in the dailies everyday but they dont carry the release date
From: Nerd on Wed Jan 21 1:23:51 2009.

Bala�s Naan Kadavul in Telugu
Esther Sunita [January 20, 2009, 5:02:33 PM]

Bala's magnum opus Naan Kadavul is all set to hit screens very soon. Starring Arya and Pooja, the movie has been in the making for over two years. Veteran music composer Ilayaraja is the man behind the haunting tunes of this interesting film. The audio of this film was released on January 1, 2009.

Naan Kadavul is now being dubbed into Telugu, titled Nenu Devudu. Bala is already famous in Andhra for Pithamagan,which was dubbed into Telugu as Siva Putrudu, starring Vikram, Suriya, Laila and Sangitha.

Nenu Devudu, will be another controversial film, with as much abuse as praise being heaped on it, going by the publicity stills and trailers of the film. Judging by Arya's unkempt look, which he's been sporting for over 2 years, the film will be dealing with the occult and the shadowy world of sadhus on the banks of the river Ganga.
From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 22 1:32:21 2009.

Nerd,

how do you find the links for the Thinathanthi Advts. I see a page full of jpgs like this http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/2212009/
How to find which image is NK or NL ?

From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 22 1:41:10 2009.

Bala’s Naan Kadavul in Telugu
Esther Sunita [January 20, 2009, 5:02:33 PM]

Bala's magnum opus Naan Kadavul is all set to hit screens very soon. Starring Arya and Pooja, the movie has been in the making for over two years. Veteran music composer Ilayaraja is the man behind the haunting tunes of this interesting film. The audio of this film was released on January 1, 2009.

Naan Kadavul is now being dubbed into Telugu, titled Nenu Devudu. Bala is already famous in Andhra for Pithamagan,which was dubbed into Telugu as Siva Putrudu, starring Vikram, Suriya, Laila and Sangitha.

Nenu Devudu, will be another controversial film, with as much abuse as praise being heaped on it, going by the publicity stills and trailers of the film. Judging by Arya's unkempt look, which he's been sporting for over 2 years, the film will be dealing with the occult and the shadowy world of sadhus on the banks of the river Ganga.

From: directhit on Thu Jan 22 1:53:59 2009.

RS - its easy to look at the e-paper instead
today's ad : http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/2212009/MDSG255676.jpg
From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 22 5:49:29 2009.

directhit wrote:

RS - its easy to look at the e-paper instead
today's ad : http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/2212009/MDSG255676.jpg

Hmmm yes But when I try to right click and try to save or copy image location the whole page is being selected in the e-paper edition

BTW I opened up this image and was looking at it when a northi indian passed by my monitor and asked 'what movie is it Bhool bhulaiyya??!! Noticing keenly infact 'Naan' Looks like 'Bhool'
From: Nerd on Thu Jan 22 12:11:59 2009.

RS,
Click on the ad in that page(epaper) to maximize it. Once you see the maximized ad, right click on the ad > properties > copy address(URL).

That's it!
From: thamiz on Thu Jan 22 12:38:17 2009.

Bimmer: IMHO, Bala likes to show human animals and bring the worst out of human beings in a worst possible way! Let us take any of his movies, it is true. That is what he loves about!

From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 22 19:14:25 2009.

Bimmer: IMHO, Bala likes to show human animals and bring the worst out of human beings in a worst possible way! Let us take any of his movies, it is true. That is what he loves about! Sad

not that way!!
worst of the human beings in the best possible way - otherwise you wouldnt have felt so strong to post that here!!

From: MrIndia on Thu Jan 22 23:26:09 2009.

http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/photogallery/nenudevudni/pages/image015.html

looks like pooja is a blind in the movie.. ellarum award award-nu alanja enna panna mudiyum
From: Nerd on Thu Jan 22 23:31:49 2009.

Whoa Pooja chance-E illai. tamil sites-kku pooja pics kudukkala I guess..
http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/photogallery/nenudevudni/pages/image005.html

Indha maadhiri pooja alainjaa, naanum kaasu pOttruppEn!
From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 23 3:02:17 2009.

ellarume collectionukkaaga alayum bodhu onnu rendu paer awardku alayaradhu thappillainnen
From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 23 3:09:40 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

ellarume collectionukkaaga alayum bodhu onnu rendu paer awardku alayaradhu thappillainnen

awarde onnum periya vishayamillainnEn.
From: joe on Fri Jan 23 3:14:47 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

ellarume collectionukkaaga alayum bodhu onnu rendu paer awardku alayaradhu thappillainnen

Ennai Jai ..Kamarajar maathiri pesureenga
From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 23 3:27:24 2009.

chumma oru modulashionukkaaga.
From: steveaustin on Sat Jan 24 11:50:17 2009.

Mystical godmen - Naan Kadavul images

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-01.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-02.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-03.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-04.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-05.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-06.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-07.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-08.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-09.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-10.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-02/naan-kadavul-11.html
From: steveaustin on Sat Jan 24 11:52:28 2009.

Pooja expects National Award!

Pooja says that she expects a National Award for her role in the film Naan Kadavul. The actress has played a blind girl in the film, which is due to be released sometime soon. Pooja, probably targeting the award, has dubbed for the first time! Her co-star Arya has also expressed his opinion that she may bag the National Award for the role. The actress states

that she had concentrated in this film with all her heart and did not accept other roles until the film was completed.

It may be recalled that Naan Kadavul�s award winning director Bala constantly changed the heroine in this film before he finally settled for Pooja.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-04/pooja-24-01-09.html
From: jaiganes on Sun Jan 25 16:31:54 2009.

The dark bald guy getting thrashed - is he the same guy who got it from Chiththan in Pithamagan in the jail riot scene?
From: steveaustin on Mon Jan 26 9:00:30 2009.

நான் கடவுள் - இசை விமர்சனம்

இளையராஜாவும் பாலாவும் வெற்று ஆர்ப்பாட்டங்களைத் திரையில் காட்டும் கலைஞர்களில்லை. இவர்கள் உலகம் வேறு. அந்த உலகத்துக்கு அவர்கள் நம்மை அழைக்கக் கூட மாட்டார்கள். நல்லது வேண்டுமென்றால் நாமாகத்தான் தேடிப் போக வேண்டும்!

நான் கடவுள் படத்தின் இசையை வெற்று வார்த்தைகளால், ஆஹா ஓஹோ என்று புகழ்வதே கூட ராஜாவை அவமானப்படுத்துவது போலாகிவிடும். சரியான வார்த்தைகளில் சொன்னால், ஒரு மனிதனின் வலி, எதையோ தேடி ஓயாமல் ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கும் ஒரு மனிதனின் பயணம், அவன் இதயம் தேடும் நிம்மதி... இவற்றை சரியாக உணர ஒரு முறை நான் கடவுள் பாடல்களைக் கேளுங்கள்.

நான் கடவுள் பாடல்கள் வணிக ரகமில்லை. உள்குத்து, வெளிக்குத்து என எந்தக் குத்தும் இதில் கிடையாது. ஆனால் மனதை இளக வைக்கும் ஜீவன் எல்லாப் பாடல்களிலும் அடிநாதமாய் ஓடிக் கொண்டே இருக்கிறது.

அனுபவித்துக் கேட்பவர்களுக்கு ஆனந்தம் ஆயிரம்� ரெடிமேட் இசை விரும்புவோர்க்கும் நிச்சயம் நம்மிடமும் பதில் இல்லை� திரைநாதத்தின் தலைவனாகப் பார்க்கப்படும் ராஜாவிடமும் இல்லை!

ஓம் சிவோஹம்�

பாடியவர்கள்: விஜய் பிரகாஷ் & குழு

இந்தப் பாடலுக்கு முன் இளையராஜா கொடுத்திருக்கும் அந்த அறிமுக இசை.. கேட்கும் யாரையும் உலுக்கிவிடும். இசையில் காட்ட முடியாத பாவமே இல்லை என்பதை உணர்த்தும் அற்புத பாடல்.

நான் கடவுள் என்பதை உணர்த்தும் இந்த ஓம் சிவோஹம்� பாடல்தான் இந்த தொகுப்பின் ஹைலைட். இந்தப் பாடலைக் கேட்டுவிட்டுதான் ஒரு காசி சாமியார் கண்ணீர் விட்டுக் கதறினாராம். இந்த பாடலில் கடவுளைக் கண்டேன் என்று ஆனந்தக் கண்ணீருடன் பாலாவை வாழ்த்தினாராம். அந்த அனுபவத்தை நாங்களும் உணர்ந்தோம் பாலா!

கண்ணில் பார்வை�
பாடியவர்: ஸ்ரேயா கோஷல்

கண்ணற்ற ஒரு பெண்ணின் சோகத்தைச் சொல்லும் இந்தப் பாடலின் வரிகள் இதயத்தைத் தொடுகின்றன. ராஜாவின் அந்த ஒற்றை வயலின் சொல்லும் சோகங்கள் ஏராளம்.

மாதா உன் கோயிலில்�
பாடியவர்: மதுமிதா

அச்சாணியில் ராஜா நெகிழ வைத்த அதே பாடல்தான். சில விநாடிகள் மட்டுமே ஒலிக்கிறது. இதன் இன்னொரு வடிவம் சாதனா சர்க்கம் குரலில் தனியாக தரப்பட்டுள்ளது.

அம்மா உன் பிள்ளை நான்�
பாடியவர்: சாதனா சர்க்கம்

ஒரு ரீமிக்ஸ் என்பது எப்படி இருக்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்கு நெற்றிப் பொட்டில் அடித்தமாதிரி சொல்லிக் கொடுத்திருக்கிறார் இசைஞானி.

அச்சாணியில் வரும் மாதா உன் கோயிலில் பாடலை, நன்கு மெருகேற்றி ரீமிக்ஸ் செய்திருக்கிறார் ராஜா. கேட்கும்போத, நம்மையும் அறியாமல் கண்கள் கலங்கி, கண்ணீராய் இதயம் வழியும் அற்புதம் இந்தப பாடலுக்கு மட்டும் உண்டு.

பிச்சைப் பாத்திரம்...
பாடியவர்: மது பாலகிருஷ்ணன்
பாடல்: இளையராஜா

ரமண மாலையில் ராஜாவின் குரலில் ஒலித்த அதே பாடல் இப்போது மது பாலகிருஷ்ணன் குரலில் ஒலிக்கிறது.

ராஜாவின் குரலுக்கு உள்ள மந்திர சக்தியை பாலகிருஷ்ணனின் குரலில் எதிர்பார்க்க முடியாதுதான் என்றாலும் ஒரு பரவசத்தை உணர வைக்கும் பாடல் இது.

ராஜாவே பாடியிருந்தால் நிச்சயம் உங்கள் கண்ணோரங்களில் ஆனந்த மழை பெருகியிருக்கும்.

ஒருகாற்றில்�
பாடியவர்: இளையராஜா

கண்ணில் பார்வை� பாடலின் இன்னொரு வடிவம் இந்தப் பாடல். இளையராஜா பாடியிருக்கிறார். இந்தப் பாடலின் சிறப்பே இளையராஜா பாடியிருப்பதுதான்.

நான் கடவுள்... இசையை, அதன் உண்மையான அர்த்தத்தை ரசிகர்களுக்குப் புரிய வைத்திருக்கும் ஆல்பம்.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/01/25-naan-kadavul-music-review.html
From: Sid_316 on Mon Jan 26 9:32:33 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

The dark bald guy getting thrashed - is he the same guy who got it from Chiththan in Pithamagan in the jail riot scene?

Yeah.. and he has a special role in naan kadavul it seems.. vikram told in the audio func..
From: Nerd on Mon Jan 26 21:17:24 2009.

விரைவில்....
Feb 6th I assume. Texas-la release pannunga please..
From: NOV on Tue Jan 27 7:16:10 2009.

For the FIRST TIME EVER, a huge billboard has been built for advertising Naan Kadavul in Malaysia (along Federal Highway just before PJ Hilton, enroute to KL.)

NK will be screened from February. Expecting a tsunami-like blast for the film!
From: joe on Tue Jan 27 7:30:52 2009.

விரைவில் வருக!
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jan 27 7:32:24 2009.

Great!
From: joe on Tue Jan 27 7:34:34 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

நான் கடவுள் பாடல்கள் வணிக ரகமில்லை

ஆம்! துணிக ரகம்.
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jan 27 7:37:09 2009.

<Dig>
Joe,
I'm unable to have signatures longer than this in Tamil font.
</Dig>
From: joe on Tue Jan 27 7:45:25 2009.

<dig>
Bala , Tamil characters converted to another format and calculating the length ,technically ..so ippothaikku ivvaLavu thaan mudiyum . .I will chk with admin
</dig>
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Jan 27 8:00:16 2009.

nandri Joe

From: rajasaranam on Tue Jan 27 8:44:49 2009.

http://jeyamohan.in/?p=1318

Quote:

அன்புள்ள ஜெ

நான் கடவுள் படம் எப்போது வெளிவருகிறது? அதைப்பற்றி நான் உங்களிடம் பேசவேண்டும். உங்கள் எண் தேவை
சண்முகம்

அன்புள்ள சண்முகம்

நான் கடவுள் பிப்ரவரி 5 ஆம் தேதி வெளிவருவதாக இப்போது உறுதிசெய்யப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. நான் கடவுள் குறித்து அனேகமாக எல்லாவற்ரையும் இந்த பேட்டியிலே சொல்லியிருக்கிறேன் என்று எண்ணுகிறேன்

http://www.behindwoods.com/features/Interviews/interview-5/naan-kadavul/jayamohan.html

அந்த காண்டாமனி ஒச கேட்டுடுச்சு கர்பகெரகம் விட்டு ச்சாமி வெளிய வா

From: Cinemarasigan on Tue Jan 27 10:05:12 2009.

Last 3 days in my house, I was playing the Naan Kadavul songs only... Evvalavu murai repeat pannaalum bore adikkaamal inimai koodikkittae irukku... Raaja, the Great!!
From: podaskie on Tue Jan 27 10:40:27 2009.

naan kadavul hq trailer download link

http://rapidshare.com/files/178881100/_TVRip__Naan_Kadavul_2009_HQ_TRAILER___1sT_oN_NeT.mkv
From: steveaustin on Tue Jan 27 12:31:13 2009.

Nan Kadavul from 6 February

The wait is finally over. The much-hyped and anticipated movie of the decade, Nan Kadavul, been in the making for over a couple of years, will finally hit the screens on 6 February.

Directed by Bala and produced by Sreenivasan, Nan Kadavul features Arya and Pooja in the lead roles. Talking exclusively to Indiaglitz, Sreenivasan confirmed that the movie will be released with over 200 prints worldwide on 6 February.

He said, 'the movie has come fantastic. It will certainly set a new trend in Indian cinema. All credit should go to director Bala. His hard work is visible in every screen. A man of innovative thoughts, he has contributed his best'.

He also appreciated both Arya and Pooja for their stellar performance in the flick.

The movie was shot in Kasi, Kanchipuram and Periyakulam. Besides Arya and Pooja, the movie stars Rajendran, Azhagan Thamizhmani among others. Lyricist Vaalee has penned a song in praise of Lord Shiva.

The other credits are Arthur A Wilson (cinematography), Ilayaraja (music), P Krishnamurthy (art), Super Subbarayan (stunts), Suresh Urs (editing), Jayamohan (dialogues) and Raju (effects).

This is Bala's fourth film after Sethu, Nandha and Pithamagan. Ilayaraja has come up with half-a-dozen soul-stirring numbers for the movies besides rocking in the re-recording in the company of Bollywood composer Uttam Singh.

The countdown has finally begun. In just a few days, get ready for raw action from Bala and his team.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44588.html
From: jaiganes on Tue Jan 27 12:44:31 2009.

Nerd wrote:

விரைவில்....
Feb 6th I assume. Texas-la release pannunga please..

Nerd - texasla enge?
From: Nerd on Tue Jan 27 13:27:48 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

Nerd wrote:

விரைவில்....
Feb 6th I assume. Texas-la release pannunga please..

Nerd - texasla enge?
ippO dhAn unga location pArthEn. Bentonville, AR?? neenga(Lum) wal-mart??? kadEsila en project manager-A irukka pOreenga!!

From: HonestRaj on Tue Jan 27 13:29:57 2009.

விரைவில்....
Feb 6th I assume. Texas-la release pannunga please.. Smile

Nerd - texasla enge?

ippO dhAn unga location pArthEn. Bentonville, AR?? neenga(Lum) wal-mart??? kadEsila en project manager-A irukka pOreenga!!

appo jollythan

From: jaiganes on Tue Jan 27 13:34:54 2009.

ayyo manager aagara alavukku manasu eeramillaadhavan naan illai. Neengalum bentonvilleaa. ice mazhai pozhgiradhaa?
From: Nerd on Tue Jan 27 13:39:52 2009.

amaam amaam. Office ellAm leave. Work from home They will probably screen naan kadavuL here a week after it releases, if it releases in Dallas. I think it will.
From: steveaustin on Wed Jan 28 13:06:57 2009.

நான் கடவுள் தயார் பிப்ரவரி 6 ந் தேதி ரிலீஸ்!

துவக்கம்னு ஒன்னு இருந்தா, முடிவுன்னு ஒன்னு இருக்குமல்லவா? நான் கடவுள் படத்தின் ரிலீஸ் தேதியை முடிவு பண்ணிட்டாங்களாம். பிப்ரவரி ஆறாம் தேதி மக்களை சந்திக்க வருகிறார் கடவுள்.

சென்சார் சர்டிபிகேட் வாங்கிய பிறகும் படத்தை செதுக்கிக் கொண்டேயிருக்கிறார்கள் இளையராஜாவும், பாலாவும். ஆடியோ வெளியான பிறகும் கூட 'இந்த இடத்திலே ஒரு பாடலை வச்சுக்கலாமே' என்று மேலும் ஒரு பாடலை போட்டு கொடுத்திருக்கிறார் இசைஞானி. அந்தளவுக்கு படத்தோடு ஒன்றிப் போயிருக்கிறார்கள் இருவரும்.

எந்த படத்திற்கும் இத்தனை நாட்கள் பின்னணி இசைக்காக எடுத்துக் கொண்டதில்லையாம் இளையராஜா. இந்த படத்திற்காக அதையும் செய்திருக்கிறார். இரண்டு க்ளைமாக்ஸ்கள் எடுக்கப்பட்டு அதில் எதை சேர்ப்பது? எதை விடுப்பது என்ற குழப்பத்திலிருந்த பாலா, அதிலும் ஒரு முடிவுக்கு வந்திருக்கிறார். நாம் பார்க்கப் போவது வில்லனை அடித்து புரட்டி கடைசியில் அவனையே மிச்சம் வைக்காமல் சாப்பிட்டுவிடும் 'அகோரி' என்கிற அசுரத் தனத்தைதான்! இரண்டு க்ளைமாக்சுகளுக்கும் சென்சார் சர்டிபிகேட் வாங்கி வைத்திருக்கிறாராம் பாலா.

ரிலீஸ் தேதியான ஆறு, தமிழ்சினிமாவுக்கே ஆறுதல் தரும்படி இருக்க வேண்டும்

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2009/January/280109a.asp
From: steveaustin on Wed Jan 28 13:12:28 2009.

Bala�s vital announcement on Naan Kadavul

The most-anticipated film of this year, Naan Kadavul, the Arya starrer Bala film will be released all over on February 6. The film's portrayal of the lives of corpse-eating Agori Sanyasis is already being widely gossiped about though Naan Kadavul can claim escaping the censor's scissors and coming out almost unscathed with a U/A certificate.Besides, it is also news that Bala has retained his unique touch of a cannibalistic climax in the film. It is to be noted that Bala's Pidhamagan also had a revolting scene of Vikram strangling the villain by biting into his neck.

The recently released Naan Kadavul's music has already topped the charts with Ilayaraja's mellifluous music. Pooja plays the female lead and is believed to have delivered a performance slated to be her career best so far.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-05/naan-kadavul-28-01-09.html
From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 29 12:04:05 2009.

Naan Kadavul in 220 theaters

The long wait is over at last! The hard work of Bala and producer K.S Sreenivasan of Naan Kadavul has paid of handsomely. It is good news that the distribution rights of Naan Kadavul has been sold for a sizeable price worldwide, thanks to the efforts of the duo, Bala and Sreenivasan in providing the right launch pad for the film. The music of Illayaraja is already popular following the gala audio launch. What induced more interest in the film for the distributors is the thrilling trailer that is making rounds on all television channels.

The marketing strategy used by Bala and team is instrumental in selling all the distribution rights for the film. Now the film is all set to hit 220 theatres worldwide on 6th February.

Naan Kadavul was first announced in 2005 and since then has undergone numerous delays, changes in cast and crew and more than two different producers until K.S.Sreenivasan took up the project for good. The film is a result of more than three years of persistence over prolonged uncertainty.

Naan Kadavul is expected to be a landmark film for all those involved in it. Arya�s maniacal makeover with long locks and Pooja�s drubbed and worn down look as a beggar are widely being touted as national award calibre performances. With so many things going for it, the industry is pinning its hopes on Naan Kadavul to provide the first big hit of 2009 after Pongal turned out to be an average experience.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jan-09-05/naan-kadavul-29-01-09.html
From: Avadi to America on Thu Jan 29 14:07:18 2009.

Intha stillslam repost pannathaanu theriyala...just ignore it if it is a repost.

http://www.chennai365.com/movies/naan-kadavul-movie-photo-gallery-exclusive/

Naan kdanatha three and half yearsla theatrela poi partha thamizh padam rendu thaan...rendumey thalivar padam....Now i am planning to watch this movie in theatre.
From: Nerd on Thu Jan 29 21:36:09 2009.

Feb 6 Confarmdunga. ThuNdu pOttura vENdiyathudhAn
From: directhit on Thu Jan 29 23:14:44 2009.

Naan Kadavul-All areas sold!
By Moviebuzz

Hats off to Bala and producer K.S Sreenivasan of Naan Kadavul, they have marketed the film very well.

All distribution rights of the film worldwide have been sold at decent prices.

Naan Kadavul, has been nearly three years in the making and went through two producers before Sreenivasan picked it up. And when Zee TV backed out after buying all rights, the world around Bala crashed.

But Bala and Sreenivasan were confident about their product and they went on a aggressive marketing spree. They had a big audio launch which made the songs composed by Ilayaraja popular and the trailer was stunning.

The buzz on the movie became big overnight as Bala's trailer cut was appreciated. Soon the word spread that the film is different and may work at the box-office, and the trade was gung-ho about it.

Anyway now that all areas have been sold and the film has got through the censors with an 'UA' certificate, theatres are willing to pay reasonable MG for it. Naan Kadavul, is now confirmed to release in approximately 220 screens worldwide on February 6.

It will be Arya's and Bala's biggest ever release, and a lot of hope and goodwill is riding on it. It has got the best of screens and a silent prayer is going on in the industry for its success.

Naan Kadavul, should click for the sake of the beleaguered Tamil film industry, which badly needs good content and a universal hit at the box-office.

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14847306
From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 30 1:01:59 2009.

vayithula puli karaikkudhuppa.
romb hype panni - edhaavadhu sodhappiduchunna, ore depreson dhaan. Edhu eppidiyo, Raasappu kalakki irukkar. Adhuve poadhum.
From: dell_gt on Fri Jan 30 3:46:53 2009.

Looks the movie will release feb5 in Malaysia saw signage board at federal highway(near PJ)...good marketing from the team
From: complicateur on Fri Jan 30 3:54:50 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Feb 6 Confarmdunga. ThuNdu pOttura vENdiyathudhAn

airport to theatre direct!
From: thamiz on Fri Jan 30 12:46:00 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

vayithula puli karaikkudhuppa.
From: thamiz on Fri Jan 30 12:51:08 2009.

Is this the first time Jeyamohan writes screenplay for a movie?
From: app_engine on Fri Jan 30 12:55:17 2009.

may be...he wrote vachanam for kasthurimAn (a movie that worked in Malayalam but sunk without a trace in Thamizh)
From: Nerd on Fri Jan 30 12:57:10 2009.

Indhappadathukkum vasanam mattum dhAn, though he claims he helped with the screenplay.
From: thamiz on Fri Jan 30 13:04:06 2009.

THanks, a-e!

Just dialogues, nerd? I see! Thanks
From: Mahen on Sun Feb 1 0:41:16 2009.

Huge coming soon poster in Tamil NEsan today..Once again it's Pyramid Saimira who will be distributing NK Lotus-ku enna achi?
From: NOV on Sun Feb 1 10:11:22 2009.

Managed to capture the billboard while driving along federal highway, yesterday.
From: Mahen on Sun Feb 1 10:32:11 2009.

OMG...I cant believe it...Nov, eppadi spot pannige? First time for a tamil movie rite?
From: thilak4life on Sun Feb 1 10:44:04 2009.

Thanks for that.
From: NOV on Sun Feb 1 10:44:48 2009.

Mahen wrote:

OMG...I cant believe it...Nov, eppadi spot pannige? First time for a tamil movie rite?
me too... spot pannuradhu easy... see previous page.
first time ever for a tamil movie.

will you also sponsor the ticket for this movie?

From: Mahen on Sun Feb 1 10:50:11 2009.

NOV wrote:

OMG...I cant believe it...Nov, eppadi spot pannige? First time for a tamil movie rite?

me too... spot pannuradhu easy... see previous page. Wink

first time ever for a tamil movie.

will you also sponsor the ticket for this movie? LOL

Nooo

From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 2 5:52:32 2009.

Model-Actor Aarya spoke about his role �Rudran� soon to be released �Naan Kadavul�, hands on direction by critically acclaimed Director Bala. �As soon as one says Agoris, people think that they are cannibals but the conception is completely irrelevant to what they truly are. They are people who do not harm anyone and live their life aiming at self-realization. I was living among those Sadhus in Kasi almost more than a year. It is certainly a note-worthy experience where I was about to see that they do have funny side and enjoy every feasible minute they come across. We researched through many movies and books to know what an Agori does, what will be his actions and reactions, what is his mannerism and way of life as much as possible but in vain. However we managed to jot few things down and that�s when Rudran was born. Everything that portrays Rudran in �Naan Kadavul� is what we learned through experience. I must thank director Bala for being a perfectionist and it is this part of him that taught me patience and perseverance to perform my best� says the actor.
We will know about the movie in black and white on 6th of January 2009.

From: dell_gt on Mon Feb 2 8:20:23 2009.

Quote:

Mahen wrote:
OMG...I cant believe it...Nov, eppadi spot pannige? First time for a tamil movie rite?
me too... spot pannuradhu easy... see previous page.
first time ever for a tamil movie.

will you also sponsor the ticket for this movie?

nop earlier, they was for MUMBAI EXPRESS in Sentul...

From: avven on Mon Feb 2 10:49:22 2009.

NOV,
great job ..thx for the pic
From: thamiz on Mon Feb 2 15:02:23 2009.

பிதா மகனைவிட இந்த கடவுளுக்கு 10 மடங்கு ஹைப்! பாவம் பாலா!
From: irir123 on Mon Feb 2 19:56:48 2009.

thamiz - what exactly is your point/are you driving at ?
From: directhit on Mon Feb 2 21:02:55 2009.

Feb 6 - Jaaze, any idea if its releasing on 5th here?!
Malaysia - 5th confirmed?
From: thamiz on Mon Feb 2 22:53:45 2009.

irir123 wrote:

thamiz - what exactly is your point/are you driving at ?

I think when the expectations are too high, it aint easy to satisfy the audience!

I suspect very much Bala can live upto the way too high expectations this time.
From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 3 0:01:54 2009.

nEnu dhEvudini is releasing in 9 theatres here at hyderabad

but no tamil version
From: Mahen on Tue Feb 3 0:56:55 2009.

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2009/feb/02sld1-arya-on-naan-kadavul.htm
From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 3 1:25:28 2009.

Theater list at Hyderabad

All are big theatres wr Chiru, Rajini, Maheshbabu movies get releases I never thought Bala will have such a big market at Hyderabad its really amazing to see the ad as BALA"S ANOTHER MASTERPIECE

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 3 10:33:52 2009.

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14849943

Quote:

Naan Kadavul fever begins worldwide!
By Moviebuzz | Tuesday, 03 February , 2009, 12:06

Bala, the man who revolutionized Tamil cinema with three trendsetters- Sethu, Nanda, Pithamagan is back after nearly five years with his magnum opus Njaan Kadavul, releasing this Friday (Feb 6) worldwide.

The man who made stars out of Vikram and Surya is now all set to make Arya a star. The film is releasing worldwide in 235 screens, the highest ever for a Bala film. In Chennai city the film is opening in 9 screens, with advance booking starting on Wednesday.

There is huge expectation regarding the film all over Tamilnadu, and the best of distributors are backing the project which has also managed to get good screens. Says a leading distributor in Madurai, the home town of Bala: " We are expecting the film to take the kind of opening a star film will take."

The overseas prints of the film has been dispatched from Chennai on Saturday night. Pyramid Saimira is releasing this movie in USA with 5 prints across all major cities on Feb 6th weekend. The prints will be moved to next circle of cities, the following week.

Says Jayavel Murugan who is distributing the film for Pyramid Saimira: " There is huge expectations riding on Bala and his Naan Kadavul as the previous three movies of Bala were super hits in US. This film is also seeped in realism and everyone knows that it was in production for last three years and lot of trouble and passion has gone into the film. All online tickets are now open for booking in USA and the first round of booking were awesome". The US first week schedule as follows

Movie city , Edison , NJ
Serratheaters, Bayarea, CA
Norwalk, Los Angeles, CA
Novi , Detroit , MI
Funasia in Dallas and Houston, Texas.

From: steveaustin on Tue Feb 3 10:47:14 2009.

The bravest man in Kollywood - Naan Kadavul preview

Starring: Arya, Pooja.
Direction: Bala.
Music: Ilayaraja.
Production: Vasans Visual Ventures.

Some people run their own race, they don�t care what others around them are doing. Bala is definitely one of that kind. 3 years in the making, a change of hero, change of producer, 3 or more heroines considered and a whole lot of controversy are all things that went against Naan Kadavul. But, in spite of all that the movie is about to hit theaters. One first remembers hearing the title somewhere in 2005 and at that time it was associated with Ajith. It was well into 2006 by the time it was confirmed that Arya would be doing the role. Even getting started with the shooting in earnest looked like a humungous task. There was a period in 2007-2008 when talk about Naan Kadavul had completely died down, it was as if many had lost hope that this would ever get finished.

Finished it is and soon it will hit us hard. Don�t expect a regular entertainer when you enter theaters, don�t even expect an offbeat venture grounded in reality. Bala seems to have transcended all genres that have been coined in Kollywood till now. The trailers would have already told you a lot about the nature of the movie, it is not normal. Sources have said that the movie takes a look at the lives of people who live disconnected from civilization, exploring the mystic and mysterious existence of sanyasis in parts of India that also includes cannibals. Pooja reportedly plays one who begs on the streets for a living. Naan Kadavul explores many dark and dingy sides of society that are seldom talked about.
We could go on talking about the possibilities that such a theme offers. But watching the trailer once should suffice. It makes for gripping viewing, sometimes making one feel uneasy. It is difficult to comprehend what the movie has in store when a sanyasi says to Arya �Tu manushya nahin hain� (you are not human). Definitely, the movie has taken on uncharted terrain and we are sure that Bala has delivered a product of unmatched brilliance. Arya and Pooja�s career best and potentially award winning performances, the rawness and reality that the real life sanyasis bring to the movie, Ilaiyaraja�s haunting score are reasons enough to make anyone want to catch the movie in theaters.

One can put one�s money on the fact that Naan Kadavul will actually show us what �difference� means. And, immaterial of what happens to the film subsequent to its release, the conviction and confidence of one man will have to be saluted. Courage, thy name is Bala.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-previews/preview-1/naan-kadavul.html
From: joe on Tue Feb 3 11:07:26 2009.

Anoops,
Singapore releasing theatres info irukka?
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 3 12:19:58 2009.

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2009/feb/02sld3-arya-on-naan-kadavul.htm

I'm not sure if they claim he's doing 'padmAsanA' in this pic...if so, then it's bogus and if same thing comes up in the movie, that'll be a hit on all the claims of 'authenticity'
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 3 12:31:31 2009.

This is from rediff :
=========
You mean to say that without learning yoga, you started sheershasan straight away?

Yes, I wanted to learn it as fast as I could. For the first few days, I had huge neck problems because I had no idea how to do it properly. I was very lucky I didn't break my neck. Because I was an athlete, I am flexible and could do padmasan without any difficulty. After some time, I became an expert in sheershasana also.
=============

If he does not place both feet on the opposite thighs (like we see in the photograph), he can obviously "do padmasan without any difficulty"

From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 3 12:34:54 2009.

app_engine wrote:

This is from rediff :
=========
You mean to say that without learning yoga, you started sheershasan straight away?

Yes, I wanted to learn it as fast as I could. For the first few days, I had huge neck problems because I had no idea how to do it properly. I was very lucky I didn't break my neck. Because I was an athlete, I am flexible and could do padmasan without any difficulty. After some time, I became an expert in sheershasana also.
=============

If he does not place both feet on the opposite thighs (like we see in the photograph), he can obviously "do padmasan without any difficulty" Laughing

To be fair that posture is called 'artha padmasana' it is a valid posture. but his sirasasana was genuine and is found in movie launch stills.

From: app_engine on Tue Feb 3 12:39:42 2009.

>>'artha padmasana' <<

ok, does it mean 'half padmAsanA' ?

padamum 'artha kiNaRu' thANdAmal irundhAl sari
From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 3 12:41:48 2009.

app_engine wrote:

>>'artha padmasana' <<

ok, does it mean 'half padmAsanA' ?

padamum 'artha kiNaRu' thANdAmal irundhAl sari

arai kinaru padam thaandi vizundhuttaa romba sandoshapaduveenga pola irukku?
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 3 12:55:46 2009.

jaiganes,

I'm not in this business and hence success / failure of any project won't affect me:-)

Even then, I have an ulterior interest that this venture succeeds - so that IR will be in the reckoning for some more years commercially, which could mean possibility of some great scores from him. I don't want him to go out of market into oblivion, not yet.

So, ungaL kaNippu thavaRu sir:-)

My observation was about the supposed claims on "perfectionism" of this venture by Bala - many years, lot of hard work etc are hyped everywhere.

When that being the case, simple vishayangaLil kOttai vittAl araikkiNaRu thANdiyadhu pOl Aki vidum enRa observation.

That's all!
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 3 12:59:43 2009.

'padmAsanam' is something they taught us at school. (I'm not sure whether they still teach such postures in TN schools).

So, this is probably something known to even school children. If Bala misses this in a picture given to lot of media people for publicity (same still is there on sify as well), his quest for perfectionism becomes questionable.
From: thamiz on Tue Feb 3 13:35:17 2009.

a-e!

I hope Bala reads your comment and get this fixed before movie comes out.

Or in the film arya may be "nut character" and so he could not do that "right" or of that sort!
From: NOV on Tue Feb 3 20:13:32 2009.

-NK story removed-
From: Movie Cop on Tue Feb 3 20:41:23 2009.

NOV wrote:

-NK story removed-

Nov,
You shouldn't not be letting the cat out of the bag pretty soon!

Though on a side note, after watching the trailer, I'm not super excited about the movie, as such!
From: NOV on Tue Feb 3 20:48:41 2009.

OK sridhar, story has been removed.
From: Movie Cop on Tue Feb 3 20:53:33 2009.

NOV wrote:

OK sridhar, story has been removed.

Was just pulling you, Nov! Anyways, good you removed it... NK fans would be happy, I guess!
From: NOV on Tue Feb 3 20:55:43 2009.

anyway sridhar, I will enjoy if its truly funny. Bala was good at comedy in Pithamagan. Even in Nandha, the lodukku paandi character was good.
From: Movie Cop on Tue Feb 3 21:00:05 2009.

NOV wrote:

anyway sridhar, I will enjoy if its truly funny. Bala was good at comedy in Pithamagan. Even in Nandha, the lodukku paandi character was good.

Yes, Surya's character was a good complement to Vikram's morbid character in PM! Hope there are some lighter moments (in a natural way) in NK too...
From: directhit on Tue Feb 3 21:08:26 2009.

joe wrote:

Anoops,
Singapore releasing theatres info irukka?
illa Joe - vazhakkam pola inga adhe kadha
i might go direct to theatre on friday - thursday (if it releases) mudiyadhu

used to wonder how this organizations put some baseless case on movies etc - inga yoga pose kku adichukkaradha paatha dhaan puriyudhu
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 3 23:12:14 2009.

Sathyam has special shows on the weekends. USA showtimes yengeyAvadhu yaarAvadhu pArthA post pannunga..
From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Feb 3 23:13:13 2009.

Indiaglitz-la poduvaangale
From: viraajan on Tue Feb 3 23:13:36 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Sathyam has special shows on the weekends. USA showtimes yengeyAvadhu yaarAvadhu pArthA post pannunga..

ippa thaan online-la ticket book panni mudichen...
From: viraajan on Tue Feb 3 23:14:44 2009.

there is a crap site that give show timings of usa. i'll check it now.
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 3 23:16:07 2009.

Indiaglitz innum pOdala naansanss.. Seems only one print for the Texas area. I want to know if it releases in Dallas this weekend or not.. Sila pala plans pannanum..
From: omega on Tue Feb 3 23:26:06 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Indiaglitz innum pOdala naansanss.. Seems only one print for the Texas area. I want to know if it releases in Dallas this weekend or not.. Sila pala plans pannanum..

www.tamilsuperhits.com has listed the theatres where NK will be released.
They are yet to update the timings though. Houston & Dallas are among them.
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 3 23:28:26 2009.

Thanks omega. How did I forget tamilsuperhits.com?! I knew there was a site which I used to check kusElan showtimes. Showtimes have been listed for Dallas, which is where I am going to watch
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 4 1:25:52 2009.

app_engine wrote:

If he does not place both feet on the opposite thighs (like we see in the photograph), he can obviously "do padmasan without any difficulty"

If I am not wrong, sirasAsanam is like keeping both your feet straight upwards. Arya was talking about the padmAsanam done in the sirasAnam pose coming in the beginning of the trailer.
From: equanimus on Wed Feb 4 3:27:21 2009.

littlemaster1982 wrote:

Indiaglitz-la poduvaangale

LM,
Any details about when booking opens at PVR Bangalore? I went to PVR yesterday, didn't really see any "coming up" poster. Is it even releasing?
From: k_vanan on Wed Feb 4 4:39:45 2009.

When this movie releasing in malaysia ? P Saimira releasing here
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 4 9:47:24 2009.

directhit wrote:

used to wonder how this organizations put some baseless case on movies etc - inga yoga pose kku adichukkaradha paatha dhaan puriyudhu

டைரக்டர் பெர்ஃபெக்டா எடுக்கறேன்னு வருஷக்கணக்கா ஹீரோவ தாடி/ சடாமுடியோட அலய விடறார்.

ஹீரோ என்னன்னா, நான் அதெலெடிக்காக்கும், பத்மாசனம் சுளுவா வந்துச்சு - என்ன, இந்த சிரசாசனத்துக்குத்தான் கொஞ்சம் கஷ்டப்பட்டேன்'னு அளக்கறார்.

இவங்க விடுற கதையை (பட ஆதாரத்தோடு) சுட்டிக்காட்டினால், அடிச்சுக்கிறோம்'னு கொச்சைப்படுத்துவது நாகரீகமா?
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 4 9:50:58 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Arya was talking about the padmAsanam done in the sirasAnam pose coming in the beginning of the trailer.

OK, my last post on this subject :

Let's see the movie before commenting further whether Arya has done yOgAsanA's in an authentic way or not. As they have not claimed whether that particular still is padmasana / 'arai' (artha) padmasana / "thalai keezh" padmasana etc., we won't reach anywhere discussing this IMO.
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 4 12:36:30 2009.

app_engine;

padmAsanam is a basic one in yogA and I don't think Bala would do that kind of mistake (doing arai padmAsanam and calling it padmaAsanam). I still believe Arya was talking about the thalai keezh padmAsanam. Anyway only one more day to go, lets see it in the movie itself.
From: thamiz on Wed Feb 4 12:53:24 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

app_engine;

padmAsanam is a basic one in yogA and I don't think Bala would do that kind of mistake (doing arai padmAsanam and calling it padmaAsanam)..

How do you want to call the one Arya does in the still otherwise?
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 4 14:11:29 2009.

thamiz wrote:

How do you want to call the one Arya does in the still otherwise?

app_engine just connected one of his answers to the picture shown on that page. Read the Q&A again:

"You mean to say that without learning yoga, you started sheershasan straight away?

Yes, I wanted to learn it as fast as I could. For the first few days, I had huge neck problems because I had no idea how to do it properly. I was very lucky I didn't break my neck. Because I was an athlete, I am flexible and could do padmasan without any difficulty. After some time, I became an expert in sheershasana also."

This answer wasn't meant for that picture. The issue is not about the pose in that picture but this answer.
From: SoftSword on Wed Feb 4 14:12:39 2009.

guys... sirasaasanam is standing upside down with ur head on the ground...
padhmaasanam is sitting with ur legs folded.... but ur palms on the top...

and wat he does is both of these together... with sirasaasanam... and instead of leavin his legs straight towards the sky, he has folded it like padhmaasanam...

From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Feb 4 14:13:02 2009.

LM,
Any details about when booking opens at PVR Bangalore? I went to PVR yesterday, didn't really see any "coming up" poster. Is it even releasing?

Indiaglitz-la poduvaangale Confused

It is releasing on 6th for sure. I saw posters in my area. PVR bookings would start tomorrow most probably.

From: equanimus on Wed Feb 4 15:40:58 2009.

LM,
Any details about when booking opens at PVR Bangalore? I went to PVR yesterday, didn't really see any "coming up" poster. Is it even releasing?

Indiaglitz-la poduvaangale Confused

It is releasing on 6th for sure. I saw posters in my area. PVR bookings would start tomorrow most probably.

Thanks LM. Have already booked my tickets for 6th evening show at Urvashi. Can't be sure about grabbing the seats at PVR. It seems the booking was opened at INOX some time this evening. So I guess PVR should have opened today as well.

From: vasanth2006 on Wed Feb 4 22:04:13 2009.

Is it releasing in toronto?....If somebody knows, plz post the details.....
From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 5 9:49:01 2009.

The movie releases today in the US.....anyone planning to see it today? konjam oru vari reNdu vari review podunga.
From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 5 9:50:57 2009.

பாத்துட்டு சொல்லுங்க...நான் அடுத்த வாரம்தான் பாக்கலாம்னு இருக்கேன்.
From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 9:58:57 2009.

Don't think there's a preview in the USA. What about Msia/Spore/UK?There's a preview show in sathyam tonight. Can expect galatta/bw to come up with reviews in a few hours.
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 5 12:18:16 2009.

@Nerd - I am down with fever and cold already - guess I cant drive to dallas for the opening night show. Are you planning to? Will it run for an exteneded period and will it come over to our place?
From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 12:58:33 2009.

Jai, I think am going. It's highly improbable - releasing here. Not a family (kids) type movie, you see. Anyway will check with the local distributors (?) and let you know.
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 5 13:27:40 2009.

cool!! Thanks for that info!!
From: irir123 on Thu Feb 5 14:08:56 2009.

Nerd - any idea when its releasing in Houston ?

indha Bollywood Cinema 6 hall ninaichaaley
From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 14:23:41 2009.

Houston on Sunday and Monday. BW 6 is much better than WB Cinemas
From: irir123 on Thu Feb 5 15:53:23 2009.

Nerd - why the heck dont they release Tamil films in AMC halls ?? Telugu and Hindi films are regularly screened in AMC halls
From: Guess_Me on Thu Feb 5 15:55:53 2009.

A friend of mine caught Naan Kadavul's preview show at Sathyam Cinemas, Chennai. The show started at 10.15 PM and finished just now. He said Simbu was also there for the show.

Now, abt the movie, he said it is not as good as Pithamagan (to quote his words, "it is not even 25% that of Pithamagan"). First half is really slow. The climax is absolutely stunning. Arya and Pooja rocked. There are some heavy cuts by the Censor Board towards the climax which reduces the intensity.

Overall he said he was disappointed. But that is his opinion. You guys might like it.
From: thamiz on Thu Feb 5 16:22:13 2009.

That's the first report!

Thanks, guess-me!

Tell me about your friend.

Is he a Vikram or Ajith fan?
From: Guess_Me on Thu Feb 5 16:25:24 2009.

Actually he is a Vijay and Vikram fan
From: thamiz on Thu Feb 5 16:28:12 2009.

Guess_Me wrote:

Actually he is a Vijay and Vikram fan

Thanks!

Sounds like a good review overall or not?

From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 5 16:50:16 2009.

A friend of mine caught Naan Kadavul's preview show at Sathyam Cinemas, Chennai. The show started at 10.15 PM and finished just now. He said Simbu was also there for the show.

Now, abt the movie, he said it is not as good as Pithamagan (to quote his words, "it is not even 25% that of Pithamagan"). First half is really slow. The climax is absolutely stunning. Arya and Pooja rocked. There are some heavy cuts by the Censor Board towards the climax which reduces the intensity.

Overall he said he was disappointed. But that is his opinion. You guys might like it.

couldnt believe

however, I am watching tomorrow morning

From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 17:05:19 2009.

Hmmmm..
From: MrIndia on Thu Feb 5 18:13:04 2009.

looks like surya character of pithamagan is missing in naan kadavul

if surya wasnt there the review would be similar for pithamagan.

he is a part vijay fan.. athunaala judgement reserved
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 5 18:21:40 2009.

@Guess ME
Ilaiyaraaja BGM eppadi? konjam kaettu solreengala?
From: irir123 on Thu Feb 5 18:23:06 2009.

jaiganes - idhellaam ketkanumaa ? its like asking how did Sachin play his straight drive !
From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 5 18:24:27 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

@Guess ME
Ilaiyaraaja BGM eppadi? konjam kaettu solreengala?

nidhaanamaadhaan irukkeengalaa
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 5 18:28:27 2009.

konjam odambu sari illai.
Kaettadhil enna thappu.
Evvlo nalla irukkunnu kaekaren
From: Hulkster on Thu Feb 5 19:22:37 2009.

No point believing galatta review as they are the official website holders for naan kadavul. As for the review the way he said it sounded like he expected alot of entertainment and commercial elements so review brushed aside.

Well atleast the part about it being pithamagan 2.0 has been disapproved.
From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 21:50:49 2009.

Galatta's review. Did not read the whole thing for obvious reasons. The verdict:

Quote:

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!
From: complicateur on Thu Feb 5 22:02:06 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Quote:

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!

nallA keLappurAngaiyyA beethiya!

From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 5 22:33:37 2009.

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!

Quote:

From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 5 22:37:33 2009.

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!

Quote:

From: thamiz on Thu Feb 5 22:56:11 2009.

u meen street

From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 5 22:44:35 2009.

vERa yEthAchchum review illaiyA?

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!

Quote:

From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 5 23:06:51 2009.

u meen street Confused

வீதி இல்லை

பீதி = பயம்

Galatta's verdict: Still weighing the points, will decide in a couple of days when the uneasy feeling in the stomach settles!

Quote:

dig//
thamizh'la veedhi..... kannada'la beethi.... english'la street

u meen street Confused

வீதி இல்லை

பீதி = பயம்

பீதி should be transliterated as peedhi

PS... endha oorunu kEttaa sollamaatteengalaa

// end

From: Nerd on Thu Feb 5 23:08:43 2009.

sarna, "beedhi" is vadivElu special. He says that in some movie which I could not recollect.

OK, makkaLE ellArum spoiler illAmal review post pannunga, plis
From: Guess_Me on Thu Feb 5 23:10:49 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

@Guess ME
Ilaiyaraaja BGM eppadi? konjam kaettu solreengala?

Sorry guys. He is not exactly the kind of person who pays attention to BGM and other technical stuff. He is a Vijay fan (no offense to Vijay fans) who purely looks for entertainment. He liked Pithamagan and Sethu but was disappointed with Naan Kadavul. He liked Pokkiri, hated Kuruvi, says Villu is just ok. So you get a picture now.
From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 5 23:14:47 2009.

Nerd wrote:

sarna, "beedhi" is vadivElu special. He says that in some movie which I could not recollect.

got it Nerd

Nerd wrote:

OK, makkaLE ellArum spoiler illAmal review post pannunga, plis
From: thamiz on Thu Feb 5 23:15:00 2009.

sarna: I only tried to help you understand what he said.

Anyway thanks
From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 5 23:34:15 2009.

"For good or worse, as with all Bala movies, not a single soul left the movie hall unaffected or untouched by Naan Kadavul."

Naan Kadavul premiere: A starry affair
From: viraajan on Thu Feb 5 23:37:59 2009.

Is any hubber gonna watch it today?
From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 5 23:39:27 2009.

Naan Kadavul Premiere Show - Images
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 0:14:37 2009.

K wrote:

http://truetamilans.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 0:27:49 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Naan Kadavul Premiere Show - Images

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-premiere/Naan-Kadavul-24.html
இந்த ரெண்டு அம்மணிங்க யாரு?

From: podaskie on Fri Feb 6 0:29:32 2009.

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-premiere/Naan-Kadavul-24.html
இந்த ரெண்டு அம்மணிங்க யாரு?

i think they r actress

From: Vivasaayi on Fri Feb 6 0:33:44 2009.

podaskie wrote:

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-premiere/Naan-Kadavul-24.html
இந்த ரெண்டு அம்மணிங்க யாரு?

i think they r actress Very Happy

konja naal nadikaati odane yaaru andha figure kepeengale!

From: viraajan on Fri Feb 6 0:39:57 2009.

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-premiere/Naan-Kadavul-24.html
இந்த ரெண்டு அம்மணிங்க யாரு?

kadavul'oda sishayaigal

From: complicateur on Fri Feb 6 0:51:00 2009.

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-premiere/Naan-Kadavul-24.html
இந்த ரெண்டு அம்மணிங்க யாரு?

Swathi (Vaanmanthi) and Vimala Raman (Poi)

From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Feb 6 1:06:44 2009.

Patthuttu vandhu Seekkiram post pannunga...

couldnt believe Rolling Eyes

however, I am watching tomorrow morning Smile

From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 1:10:06 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Swathi (Vaanmanthi) and Vimala Raman (Poi)

நன்றி காம்ப்ளி. எங்கேயோ பார்த்த முகங்களா இருக்கேன்னு யோசிச்சேன்.

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 1:35:14 2009.

Cinemarasigan wrote:

Patthuttu vandhu Seekkiram post pannunga...

couldnt believe Rolling Eyes

however, I am watching tomorrow morning Smile

innikku paakka mudiyaadhu

may be tomorrow

From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Feb 6 1:48:55 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

Cinemarasigan wrote:

couldnt believe

however, I am watching tomorrow morning

Patthuttu vandhu Seekkiram post pannunga...

innikku paakka mudiyaadhu may be tomorrow [/quote]

Hyd or Blr?
From: k_vanan on Fri Feb 6 2:06:51 2009.

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=14852479&ctid=5&cid=2429
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 2:26:14 2009.

k_vanan wrote:

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=14852479&ctid=5&cid=2429

Outstanding-nnu verdict vanthurukku, nambalAmA?
From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Feb 6 2:27:42 2009.

k_vanan wrote:

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=14852479&ctid=5&cid=2429

This review's creating a lot of expectations for the movie... Thanks..
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 2:29:37 2009.

innum tension-A thAn irukku,
eppadiyum innaikku illa nALaikkuLLa padam pAththudanum.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 2:48:19 2009.

K wrote:

http://cablesankar.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html

verdict mARi mARi varuthu
From: viraajan on Fri Feb 6 3:14:00 2009.

My brother watching FDFS now. Sent me a msg now.

Thundering applause when "Raaja" name was displayed in title.
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 3:14:59 2009.

http://truetamilans.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html
From: avven on Fri Feb 6 3:19:22 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

K wrote:

http://cablesankar.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html

verdict mARi mARi varuthu

neen-ga padatha parthu mudivu pannunga, nalla iruka illeayanu..avanga reviews parthu en confuse avaringa..
From: podaskie on Fri Feb 6 3:35:46 2009.

my close friend watched the movie,he said first half is great but second half is worse...ir's bgm and pooja's performance is the highlight of he film....

-deleted- Avoid spolier- MOD

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 3:43:59 2009.

avven wrote:

http://cablesankar.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html

K wrote:

verdict mARi mARi varuthu Rolling Eyes

neen-ga padatha parthu mudivu pannunga, nalla iruka illeayanu..avanga reviews parthu en confuse avaringa..

I understand that opinions differ from person to person. But I like to see more positive verdicts for the hardwork done by Bala, that's all. I will watch the movie either today or tomorrow for sure.

From: MrIndia on Fri Feb 6 3:45:20 2009.

Just came from the movie...

Kadavul 1: Raja sir is the hero of the movie. cant imagine seeing this without his re-recording. songs are inplace..

Kadavul 2: Bala for his casting and characterization

Kadavul 3: camera man .... nice job.

Arya and pooja did their job well.

This is an exact opposite of a vijay movie. I wont recommend the movie for women and children.
Bala has shown his anger on some of the present superstars of tamil cinema at some places.

Bala has done nothing extraordinary for story,screenplay or direction.. he is bold enough to show what is happening in some parts of the world to perfection.

strangely... i liked the movie
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 3:46:14 2009.

podaskie:

suththa loosA irukkeenga.... I just glanced a few words from your last post....suddenly sensed the spoiler and skipped it. Luckily I didn't read the last line.
From: sourav on Fri Feb 6 3:49:32 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

podaskie:

suththa loosA irukkeenga.... I just glanced a few words from your last post....suddenly sensed the spoiler and skipped it. Luckily I didn't read the last line.
I read that....
From: Ramakrishna on Fri Feb 6 3:49:43 2009.

Saw the movie....
The movie is good in parts.
First half is just ok. Second half starts off well but gets predictable later
Climax
Music is tooo good
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 3:50:10 2009.

MrIndia;

How do you rate this when compared to other Bala movies? Better than PM or Nandha?

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 3:53:12 2009.

podaskie:

suththa loosA irukkeenga.... I just glanced a few words from your last post....suddenly sensed the spoiler and skipped it. Luckily I didn't read the last line.

I read that.... Sigh2

me too

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 3:54:58 2009.

NOV:

Can you please add the poll to this thread again?
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 3:56:21 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

NOV:

Can you please add the poll to this thread again?

what poll you want to add?

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 3:56:47 2009.

podaskie:

suththa loosA irukkeenga.... I just glanced a few words from your last post....suddenly sensed the spoiler and skipped it. Luckily I didn't read the last line.

I read that.... Sigh2

me too

spoiler vEndAmnnu eththana thadava sonnAlum silarukku puriyamAtEnguthu

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 3:56:54 2009.

கொண்டாட்ட சூழலுக்கான படம் இது இல்லை என்றாலும் இயக்குனர் பாலா பல்லக்கில் வைத்து தமிழர்களால் கொண்டாடப்பட வேண்டியவர். ஹேராமுக்குப் பிறகு இசையும், இயக்கமும் தமிழ் சினிமாவின் குறிப்பிடத்தக்க மைல்கல்லை எட்டியிருக்கிறது.

இக்கட்டான சூழலில் தமிழ் சினிமாவை ரட்சிக்க வந்திருக்கிறார் கடவுள்!

http://www.luckylookonline.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html
From: viraajan on Fri Feb 6 3:57:50 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

podaskie:

suththa loosA irukkeenga.... I just glanced a few words from your last post....suddenly sensed the spoiler and skipped it. Luckily I didn't read the last line.

Thank god i dint read.

But heard that he posted the climax. Naansennsse....
From: MrIndia on Fri Feb 6 4:01:05 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

MrIndia;

How do you rate this when compared to other Bala movies? Better than PM or Nandha?

those movies are too commercial when compared to this
you can watch those movies again but not this one.

you will be disturbed for sure.

this is more like a well shot documentary with raja sir's amazing bgm. their is some witty dialogue here and there. mirugama irruku.

sensors have played their part.. movie is missing something near the climax.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 4:04:29 2009.

joe wrote:

http://www.luckylookonline.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html

The titbit about Karththika in the last paragraph is really funny On a serious note, looks like the movie will satisfy the A-Center crowd. But I think lately B&C center crowd supports good movies better than A center. Lets see.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 4:07:16 2009.

those movies are too commercial when compared to this Smile

you can watch those movies again but not this one.

you will be disturbed for sure.

this is more like a well shot documentary with raja sir's amazing bgm. their is some witty dialogue here and there. mirugama irruku.

sensors have played their part.. movie is missing something near the climax.

This sounds great to me. Thanks, man.

From: Vivasaayi on Fri Feb 6 4:09:23 2009.

Now that they have added abt jayamohans "pagadi" Im more curious to watch this movie
From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 4:30:13 2009.

Cinemarasigan wrote:

Hyd or Blr?

hyderabad only..... yeah telugu version
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 6 4:32:08 2009.

MrIndia wrote:

Just came from the movie...

Kadavul 1: Raja sir is the hero of the movie. cant imagine seeing this without his re-recording. songs are inplace..

Ramakrishna wrote:

Music is tooo good

From: steveaustin on Fri Feb 6 4:35:20 2009.

கொண்டாட்ட சூழலுக்கான படம் இது இல்லை என்றாலும் இயக்குனர் பாலா பல்லக்கில் வைத்து தமிழர்களால் கொண்டாடப்பட வேண்டியவர். ஹேராமுக்குப் பிறகு இசையும், இயக்கமும் தமிழ் சினிமாவின் குறிப்பிடத்தக்க மைல்கல்லை எட்டியிருக்கிறது.

இக்கட்டான சூழலில் தமிழ் சினிமாவை ரட்சிக்க வந்திருக்கிறார் கடவுள்!

http://www.luckylookonline.com/2009/02/blog-post_06.html

Quote:

இளையராஜாவின் இசை படத்தின் பல காட்சிகளை நடத்திச் செல்கிறது. வசனங்கள் இல்லாத இடத்திலும் யாரோ பேசிக்கொண்டிருப்பது போன்றே, கதை சொல்லிக் கொண்டிருப்பது போன்றே ஒரு பிரமை. கோல்டன் க்ளோப், ஆஸ்கர் விருதுகள் தரும் கம்முனாட்டிகள் குழுவுக்கு இப்படி ஒரு மேதை இங்கே இருப்பதாவது தெரியுமா என்பதே சந்தேகம். மேஸ்ட்ரோவுக்கு இணை மேஸ்ட்ரோ மட்டுமே.

இயக்குனர் பாலா பல்லக்கில் வைத்து தமிழர்களால் கொண்டாடப்பட வேண்டியவர். ஹேராமுக்குப் பிறகு இசையும், இயக்கமும் தமிழ் சினிமாவின் குறிப்பிடத்தக்க மைல்கல்லை எட்டியிருக்கிறது.

From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 6 4:41:36 2009.

MrIndia wrote:

I wont recommend the movie for women and children.

indha padam pera kettale woippu kaduppaidraanga, and because of that i not watch the movie today.. pengal thirundhanum!
From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 4:49:43 2009.

my bro is raving abt the movie and the music .. he just finished watching the FDFS.. the WOM is not that good it seems.. oh no.. they didnt release the movie in pune..
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Feb 6 4:57:13 2009.

Anban wrote:

my bro is raving abt the movie and the music .. he just finished watching the FDFS.. the WOM is not that good it seems.. oh no.. they didnt release the movie in pune..

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 5:04:24 2009.

my bro is raving abt the movie and the music .. he just finished watching the FDFS.. the WOM is not that good it seems.. oh no.. they didnt release the movie in pune.. Sad

Word of mouth

From: SoftSword on Fri Feb 6 5:06:54 2009.

u guys remember the wom for sethu in its first week of release???
From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 5:10:49 2009.

SoftSword wrote:

u guys remember the wom for sethu in its first week of release???

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 5:11:08 2009.

I wont recommend the movie for women and children.

indha padam pera kettale woippu kaduppaidraanga, and because of that i not watch the movie today.. pengal thirundhanum! Twisted Evil

From: Kalyasi on Fri Feb 6 5:11:56 2009.

I am going to PVR for 4.15 pm show... any hubbers who are watching the movie @ PVR same time?

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 5:23:43 2009.

I wont recommend the movie for women and children.

indha padam pera kettale woippu kaduppaidraanga, and because of that i not watch the movie today.. pengal thirundhanum! Twisted Evil

avingaLukkennu thani padangaL irukku, they don't need to change. nammala thaniyA nimmathiyA pAkka vittA athuvE pOthum.

From: SoftSword on Fri Feb 6 5:23:49 2009.

I wont recommend the movie for women and children.

indha padam pera kettale woippu kaduppaidraanga, and because of that i not watch the movie today.. pengal thirundhanum! Twisted Evil

thirutthanum...

From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 5:27:55 2009.

From what people say three songs only in the movie.

1) Pichai Paathiram
2) Om Sivoham
3) Title sanskrit song not in the album
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 5:33:16 2009.

"In one word, Naan Kadavul is a movie to cherish and celebrate." from Indiaglitz's review

From: Roshan on Fri Feb 6 5:40:53 2009.

Quote:

கோல்டன் க்ளோப், ஆஸ்கர் விருதுகள் தரும் கம்முனாட்டிகள் குழுவுக்கு இப்படி ஒரு மேதை இங்கே இருப்பதாவது தெரியுமா என்பதே சந்தேகம். மேஸ்ட்ரோவுக்கு இணை மேஸ்ட்ரோ மட்டுமே.

Innumoru disgruntled soul ! What a cheap mentality :yuck:

From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 5:42:34 2009.

Vidunga..he is just a hardcore fan like me...is it important to talk about this now....more important is the film. Unnum reviews irukka?
From: viraajan on Fri Feb 6 5:44:01 2009.

My bro saw it today.

Says that the story is bit confusing... and overall the movie does not live up to the expectation
From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 5:46:21 2009.

The word confusing is enough to override the verdict. One fella said predictable other saying confusing....ada chey..naaney poi paarkiren..reviews nambi pirojanam ellei.
From: viraajan on Fri Feb 6 5:50:02 2009.

Hulkster wrote:

The word confusing is enough to override the verdict. One fella said predictable other saying confusing....ada chey..naaney poi paarkiren..reviews nambi pirojanam ellei.

sariyaana theerpu..
From: Roshan on Fri Feb 6 5:57:23 2009.

Hulkster wrote:

Vidunga..he is just a hardcore fan like me...is it important to talk about this now....more important is the film. Unnum reviews irukka?

It obviously makes us suspect the credibility of his views. Adhaan highlight paNNEn. Yuckylook'nu pEra mAthinA poruthamA irukkum. He needs to get a life definitely.
From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 6:14:03 2009.

Well nothing wrong it seems...there are bound to be people who will get critical of one's success...keithu vittu poga vendiyethu thaan.

Majority seem to agree that it is a very dark film possibly exploring more about good vs evil rather than the underdog to millionaire style of slumdog millionaire. Phew that relieves me of the fear that it might have been similar to SDM.
From: SoftSword on Fri Feb 6 6:17:37 2009.

Hulkster wrote:

From what people say three songs only in the movie.

1) Pichai Paathiram
2) Om Sivoham
3) Title sanskrit song not in the album

maadhaa un kovilil???
From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 6:20:28 2009.

Out it also seems. I thought it might have been in regarding the length of that song. But the fella said there were some cuts in the movie so maybe it may be theater operators' work. Anyway i am not so bothered, the two most important and relative songs are there(Not that i dunt think kannil paarvai is important but i thought it would be a speedbreaker for such a intense film).

From: Roshan on Fri Feb 6 6:24:50 2009.

Well nothing wrong it seems...there are bound to be people who will get critical of one's success...keithu vittu poga vendiyethu thaan.

Majority seem to agree that it is a very dark film possibly exploring more about good vs evil rather than the underdog to millionaire style of slumdog millionaire. Phew that relieves me of the fear that it might have been similar to SDM.

Nalla comedy

SDM sila pEra rombavE haunt paNNi irukkupOla

Don't try to make things too obvious Hulkster

From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 6 6:30:42 2009.

Roshan wrote:

Nalla comedy SDM sila pEra rombavE haunt paNNi irukkupOla

I think Hulk is referring to the alleged similarity between SDM and NK that was reported in some blogs..
From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 6:31:29 2009.

No i said that because there was a article i think by jeyamohan which said NK might have been similar to SDM which would have affected its success. I am just relieved its not similar cause that would have spoiled the mood knowing it resembles another film.

From: Roshan on Fri Feb 6 6:35:45 2009.

SDM sila pEra rombavE haunt paNNi irukkupOla LOL

Nalla comedy Laughing

I think Hulk is referring to the alleged similarity between SDM and NK that was reported in some blogs..

I dont know bala but solluRavanga yArA irunthAlum kEkkuRavangaLukku oru 'idhu' irukkanumla. NK has been in production for years and to a larger extent the whole world knew what the movie is all about. I dont get the logic sorry.

From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 6:41:43 2009.

The thing is, even if it was in production way before SDM it did not release before SDM and so even if it releases the chances of it being successful will be reduced. As much as we all know the people who have little access to media will not know this and think that NK was inspired by SDM after watching it on first hand. Anyway lets switch off the matter as the film is not similar to SDM.
From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Feb 6 6:44:23 2009.

viraajan wrote:

My bro saw it today.

Says that the story is bit confusing... and overall the movie does not live up to the expectation

Bala movies ellatthukkum ippadithaan, Indha maadhiri padangal "pattha udane pidikkaadhu", paakka paakka thaan pidikkum".

From: Roshan on Fri Feb 6 6:45:56 2009.

The thing is, even if it was in production way before SDM it did not release before SDM and so even if it releases the chances of it being successful will be reduced. As much as we all know the people who have little access to media will not know this and think that NK was inspired by SDM after watching it on first hand. Anyway lets switch off the matter as the film is not similar to SDM.

ok ok no need for samalippus

I got your point

Continue with the discussions and all the best !

From: Hulkster on Fri Feb 6 6:46:37 2009.

Yeah same for me, when i watched pithamagan it was quite sudden for me. Had to watch the movie and analyse scene by scene to understand appo thaan pudichudhu. I think the part where he explained about vikram's relationship with surya and the rest after coming from a netherworld like surrounding was what really made the movie enthralling and of course the climax.

From: SoftSword on Fri Feb 6 6:57:40 2009.

Cinemarasigan wrote:

My bro saw it today.

Says that the story is bit confusing... and overall the movie does not live up to the expectation Shocked

Bala movies ellatthukkum ippadithaan, Indha maadhiri padangal "pattha udane pidikkaadhu", paakka paakka thaan pidikkum".

appo bala next movie with dhanush..

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 7:19:02 2009.

3 stars from Behindwoods.

Verdict: Brutal depiction of a world unknown
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri Feb 6 7:19:16 2009.

Pithamagan, nothing impressive actually. Most artificial and eccentric imagination.

Exceptions:

1. Ilayaraja, as usual [Especially 'pirayE' wow]
2. Surya-Laila scenes.

Rest sucks!

Eager to watch NK, lets see I think it wont happen this weekend.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 7:22:16 2009.

http://news.chennaivision.com/index.php/2009/02/nan-kadavul-review/

"...Nan Kadavul is no doubt Kollywood�s journey to international cinema. Bala has made the film raw and riveting, making it an authentic milestone in his career. "

From: leosimha on Fri Feb 6 7:41:39 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

I am going to PVR for 4.15 pm show... any hubbers who are watching the movie @ PVR same time?

today or tomorrow. anyways enjoy.

From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Feb 6 8:40:07 2009.

Cinemarasigan wrote:

My bro saw it today.

Says that the story is bit confusing... and overall the movie does not live up to the expectation Shocked

Bala movies ellatthukkum ippadithaan, Indha maadhiri padangal "pattha udane pidikkaadhu", paakka paakka thaan pidikkum".

appo bala next movie with dhanush..

may be..

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 8:57:02 2009.

Anban wrote:

my bro is raving abt the movie and the music .. he just finished watching the FDFS.. the WOM is not that good it seems.. oh no.. they didnt release the movie in pune..
but he told that a gud no of ppl in Vetri theatre gave a standing ovation .. he also told thatbala's and raja's name on the title card was greeted with deafening cheers

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 8:59:45 2009.

Vidunga..he is just a hardcore fan like me...is it important to talk about this now....more important is the film. Unnum reviews irukka?

It obviously makes us suspect the credibility of his views. Adhaan highlight paNNEn. Yuckylook'nu pEra mAthinA poruthamA irukkum. He needs to get a life definitely.

well.. luckylook is a bit wrong here..

he shudnt talk bad abt ARR or those oscar committees.. Instead he shud be targetting those idiots who are hyping up ...

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 9:04:28 2009.

Innumoru disgruntled soul ! What a cheap mentality :yuck:

Quote:

well he is just grunting at "their" narrow mindedness or ignorance..

many of us are slaves of westernised products(Hindian products included).. we dont have enough self respect to respect our kind of products too.. such ppl among us have lost their individuality long ago..

From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 6 9:25:14 2009.

Kalyan (Kalyasi) is just back from the film and he says "meratti eduthirukkaan.. chance e illa but neraya perukku pudikkadhu nu nenaikkaren"...
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 9:49:01 2009.

Lacks Punch - Rediff. But the reviewer has given 3/5

Thanks to all these Internet reviews I will have company to watch the film tomorrow. Sify's review is the clincher
From: Kalyasi on Fri Feb 6 10:01:50 2009.

Just now back from the movie....

Though I don't like director bala personally for obvious reasons...

NK is an outstanding masterpiece from Bala

Far Better than Pithamagan and Sethu...

I had similar views about Pithamagan as Sridhar.... Maybe Sridhar u will like this one...

BGM was mindblowing!!!

Subtle Comedies were too good!!

This movie is nothing but a hardcore reality of a world that exists and is not known to us....

Many will not like it esp women and children...

so commercially it might fail at the box-office but the aspiring directors who see this film will defly join the lists of Ameer, Sasikumar, Ram and the list continues!!

To those who didn't understand the concept of this movie... "Its all about mercy killing"
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 10:03:36 2009.

kalyasi
From: Sanjeevi on Fri Feb 6 10:20:56 2009.

AathAdi imputtu arumaiyAvA irukku padam - thatstamil raving about NK like anything

இது ட்ரெய்லர்தான். நாளை விரிவான விமர்சனம்!
From: irir123 on Fri Feb 6 10:26:48 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Lacks Punch - Rediff. But the reviewer has given 3/5

Thanks to all these Internet reviews I will have company to watch the film tomorrow. Sify's review is the clincher

Nerd - rediff review ellam oru poruttaa yaen madhikkireenga ??
adhu oru veenappona oru portal - Bachan familykku 'jing
chak jing chak' jalraa poda mattum thaan avingalukku theriyum - naalaikkey 'nan kadavul' thappi thavari oru super international award edhaanum vaangichhunnaa, undaney they will do 'jing hak' jaalra for Bala n co!!
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 10:27:57 2009.

படம் எடுத்தா இப்படி படம் எடுக்கணுங்க...
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/02/06-viewers-hail-naan-kadavul-first-day-first-show.html
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 10:38:32 2009.

irir, I was just curious to know rediff's take on the film, that does not mean that I approve their, for that matter any other review.. In fact I dint even read the whole thing. Normally I won't read reviews before watching a film.

From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 11:16:44 2009.

This guy always talks like he is the authority of Tamil film directions and music!

I am sure he knows no knowledge of music or whatsoever but he has a BIG MOUTH which helps him make LOTS OF NOISES like this !

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 11:30:00 2009.

Just now back from the movie....

Though I don't like director bala personally for obvious reasons...

NK is an outstanding masterpiece from Bala

Far Better than Pithamagan and Sethu...

I had similar views about Pithamagan as Sridhar.... Maybe Sridhar u will like this one...

BGM was mindblowing!!!

Subtle Comedies were too good!!

This movie is nothing but a hardcore reality of a world that exists and is not known to us....

Many will not like it esp women and children...

so commercially it might fail at the box-office but the aspiring directors who see this film will defly join the lists of Ameer, Sasikumar, Ram and the list continues!!

To those who didn't understand the concept of this movie... "Its all about mercy killing"

great review man

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 12:56:37 2009.

OMG.... saw the movie... The best from Bala till date
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:01:11 2009.

I am so excited.... much much better than Pithamagan.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:09:31 2009.

This guy always talks like he is the authority of Tamil film directions and music! Laughing

I am sure he knows no knowledge of music or whatsoever but he has a BIG MOUTH which helps him make LOTS OF NOISES like this ! ROTFL

You may be right as you say thamiz. But his each and every word is true for this movie. Go watch this movie, you will understand the movie making and music which come from the hearts of two people, Bala and Ilayaraaja.

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 13:24:24 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

I am so excited.... much much better than Pithamagan.

is it

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:26:40 2009.

Innumoru disgruntled soul ! What a cheap mentality :yuck:

Quote:

well he is just grunting at "their" narrow mindedness or ignorance.. Razz

Anban,
Watch this movie at any cost in theater. Again and again Raja proves why he is the best for original scores in India. vEra entha kombanAlum intha mAthiri isai pOda mudiyAthu, Raja's trademark throughout the movie but it is not spoiling the experience. He hasn't lost his individuality yet.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:29:59 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

I am so excited.... much much better than Pithamagan.

is it

Yes, the best from Bala. Sarna, this movie is kind of untouched territory in tamil may be in indian cinema also. Only Bala can direct this kind of film, engeyO pOittAr in this movie.
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 13:32:03 2009.

Theater response epdi? Silapala idathula standing ovation-nu kelvippatten..

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 13:34:41 2009.

I am so excited.... much much better than Pithamagan.

is it

Yes, the best from Bala. Sarna, this movie is kind of untouched territory in tamil may be in indian cinema also. Only Bala can direct this kind of film, engeyO pOittAr in this movie.

I will watch it tomorrow

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 13:35:25 2009.

Glad to see postive reviews

Bala padam thoRkanumnu inga niRaya per pray pannuranga ..Bala box office-la thoRkalaam ..aana Bala-ngra kalainjan avvaLavu seekiram thoRkka maattan
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:40:14 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Theater response epdi? Silapala idathula standing ovation-nu kelvippatten..

Theater response was very good, actually people laughed and looked enjoying it (there were some funny moments and witty dialogues through out the film) until the last 10 mins of the movie. This is certainly a new experience for tamil audience. Arya talks mostly in Sanskrit/Hindi but no one from the audience felt irritated, that itself is a victory for Bala.
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 13:43:01 2009.

Bala BO-leyum thOkka mAttAru. Though this film is his darkest, it should at least break even. And the WOM is positive AFAIK.. Bamily (kids) audience support irukkAdhu

From: irir123 on Fri Feb 6 13:43:37 2009.

Bala padam thoRkanumnu inga niRaya per pray pannuranga ..Bala box office-la thoRkalaam ..aana Bala-ngra kalainjan avvaLavu seekiram thoRkka maattan Smile

Glad to see postive reviews Very Happy

joe - yedho SV Sekhar naadagam dialogue maadhiri irukku -)) just kidding

Hey Ram, Nan Kadavul maadhiri padam yedutthaal, paaraattaamal kurai solvaargal - worser, thiruttu VCD alladhu, Torrents moolamaga kaasu selavu seyyaamaley, padam paarthhu vittu, "indha pazham pulikkudhu" yenbaargal - appuram, Tamil cinemavil 'dandanakka' style padam thaan varum!

ignore and watch - am watching coming sunday

From: omega on Fri Feb 6 13:44:25 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

OMG.... saw the movie... The best from Bala till date

Great to hear this.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:45:21 2009.

Bala padam thoRkanumnu inga niRaya per pray pannuranga ..Bala box office-la thoRkalaam ..aana Bala-ngra kalainjan avvaLavu seekiram thoRkka maattan Smile

Glad to see postive reviews Very Happy

joe,

Don't miss this movie. engirunthum suttathilla, ellAm sontha sarakku. Bala proved again that he is original and why way ahead of other directors.

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 13:48:49 2009.

MrJudge,
Bala padathai miss pannuratha ..No way Will watch it soon

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 13:49:52 2009.

Innumoru disgruntled soul ! What a cheap mentality :yuck:

Quote:

well he is just grunting at "their" narrow mindedness or ignorance.. Razz

my friends are planing to go to Mumbai to watch it.. i hope, i see it in a theatre..

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:54:30 2009.

joe wrote:

MrJudge,
Bala padathai miss pannuratha ..No way Will watch it soon

padam singapore vanthuduchchA?
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 13:56:19 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

joe wrote:

MrJudge,
Bala padathai miss pannuratha ..No way Will watch it soon

padam singapore vanthuduchchA?

VanthirukkaNum ..Naalai Kaalai local newspaper Tamil murasu vaangi paartha therinjudum
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 13:58:30 2009.

app_engine:

Arya has done proper padmAsanam in couple of places.
From: app_engine on Fri Feb 6 14:05:48 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

app_engine:

Arya has done proper padmAsanam in couple of places.
From: Mahen on Fri Feb 6 14:26:57 2009.

'terrible and mindless'....

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06
From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 14:30:21 2009.

Mahen wrote:

'terrible and mindless'....

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 14:31:30 2009.

Telugucinema and greatandhra carry similar reviews.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 14:35:29 2009.

Mahen wrote:

'terrible and mindless'....

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06

Rating: 1/5
From: Mahen on Fri Feb 6 14:35:53 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Telugucinema and greatandhra carry similar reviews.

For them movies like arundhati are considered masterpiece
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 14:38:53 2009.

" Bottom-line

Nenu Devudni is disappointment from director Bala. Except for the first 15 minutes, rest of the movie is hard to diges. It has very disturbing visuals and the movie is too dark than Bala's previous movies. Its script is weak and the movie has no purpose."

hmmmm..... Anyone knows how were bala's previous movies received in telugu?
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 14:40:36 2009.

censor konjam siththu vElaiya kAttitAnga, so no agori scenes, athu irunthirunthA innum nallA irukkum. That's the reason the movie looked ended suddenly, but still the movie is excellent (atlease in Tamil).
From: MrIndia on Fri Feb 6 14:41:21 2009.

nobody can question BALAs talent.. but is TN developed to divide movies into R rated,PG etc. will they get enough profit if only certain set of audience watch it. at the end its all money and business.

some families brought kids to the theatre and obviously they were not comfortable.

I appreciate BALA for his efforts .. wish this movie is a success and producers are encouraged to take such cult movies.
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 6 14:41:31 2009.

Pithamagan was a hit and sethu was remade. And Mahen these sites are comparing Arundhati and NK
From: complicateur on Fri Feb 6 14:42:30 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

censor konjam siththu vElaiya kAttitAnga

enna central govt. enna state govt.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 14:43:37 2009.

"Analysis: First things first! Nenu Devudni is not for everybody. One should have stomach to absorb such a highly disturbing content. The plus points of the film are director�s conviction of sticking to realism while narrating story, riveting background music by Ilayaraja and performances. All the scenes involving Arya are good and heroic. The huge minus point of the film is disturbing content. Tamil nativity is also a drawback for Telugu crowds. On a whole Nenu Devudni is a treat for movie connoisseurs who doesn�t mind disturbing content. This film will surely have a gala time at international film festivals."

from Idlebrain (another telugu site)
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 14:51:50 2009.

complicateur wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

censor konjam siththu vElaiya kAttitAnga

enna central govt. enna state govt.

Not even one scene explaining their rituals (the disturbing one I mean) on screen. A few cuts were clearly visible in the later part of the second half. Also I don't think in India it is possible to release a director's cut in DVD.

From: complicateur on Fri Feb 6 14:55:27 2009.

censor konjam siththu vElaiya kAttitAnga

enna central govt. enna state govt. Evil or Very Mad

Not even one scene explaining their rituals (the disturbing one I mean) on screen. A few cuts were clearly visible in the later part of the second half. Also I don't think in India it is possible to release a director's cut in DVD. Sad

EnnavO pOnga pA. I hope they dont do any post release edits before I watch it in theatre!

From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 14:57:42 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Telugucinema and greatandhra carry similar reviews.

Why?

May be telugu audience could not appreciate it!!!
From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 14:58:06 2009.

One of the worst Movies from Bala..

The movie is unimaginably disgusting...

Pooja was at her best...Arya could not carry the movie...Just felt something was missing...

From Sify

"Bala can ask Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire director) to take a walk" ---Are you kidding me. What the heck

Overall the movies gives you a dipressed feeling when u walk out of the theatre.
From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 14:59:37 2009.

Mahen wrote:

'terrible and mindless'....

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06

Very True...Perfect review for a Mindless Movie
From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 15:00:17 2009.

bimmer wrote:

From Sify

"Bala can ask Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire director) to take a walk" ---Are you kidding me. What the heck
.

From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 15:00:56 2009.

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06

'terrible and mindless'.... Rolling Eyes

Very True...Perfect review for a Mindless Movie

You liked other bala movies, bimmer?

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 15:02:55 2009.

nobody can question BALAs talent.. but is TN developed to divide movies into R rated,PG etc. will they get enough profit if only certain set of audience watch it. at the end its all money and business.

some families brought kids to the theatre and obviously they were not comfortable.

I appreciate BALA for his efforts .. wish this movie is a success and producers are encouraged to take such cult movies.

First and foremost the Movie ads and Posters should clearly state that the movie is not for Kids and teens.

More than a Handful of family (Kids including women) walked out of the movie at some point or the other. hEARD COMMENTS From behind...saying Intha padatthuku ethukunga kootitu vantheenga..inime 2-3 varathukku kari soru illai

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 15:08:31 2009.

http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/news.php?id=39907&cat=3&dt=2009-02-06

'terrible and mindless'.... Rolling Eyes

Very True...Perfect review for a Mindless Movie

You liked other bala movies, bimmer? Smile

Thamizh

Sethu and Nandha are one of my all-time favourites..I have watched both these movies 1/2 a dozen times.

Pithamagan was Nothing GR8 IMO...Surya was the one who made the movie watchable..

Naan Kadavul...The concept is confusing...OMG Is this reality..It is so disturbing and BALA has over-exagerated the Screenplay to a large extent.

This movie may be different to People and may appreciate the movie...But to me It made no sense.

as far as the BO Is concerned "Forget about it", the movie will soon be in the Producers Inbox or "ulaga tholaikatchigalil Mudhan murayaga" Kind.

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 15:14:42 2009.

I have mentioned the Bad qualities of NK...But there are some good credits to the Movie as well.

Ilayaraja...U are the best...had anybody else scored music and BGM (hARRIS) The movie would be a Uruvam Part 2.

The camera...wonderful.

Arya is good...But Pooja OMG...She has the real caliber and Guts..I could not imagine Bhavna doing this role.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 15:19:47 2009.

bimmer:

nandhA is better than pithAmagan for you. For me it is just the opposite. So tastes differ, and Bala can't satisfy everybody

May be this is my taste, I would rate nAn kadavul as the best from him. If only Censor had given him some more freedom, he would've made it complete by inserting more darkness which is vital for the climax that I feel missing the punch little bit at the end.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 15:20:54 2009.

Yes, Ilayaraaja and Arthur Wilson have excelled in it.

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 15:32:16 2009.

bimmer:

nandhA is better than pithAmagan for you. For me it is just the opposite. So tastes differ, and Bala can't satisfy everybody Smile

May be this is my taste, I would rate nAn kadavul as the best from him. If only Censor had given him some more freedom, he would've made it complete by inserting more darkness which is vital for the climax that I feel missing the punch little bit at the end.

I just felt the Punch missing in the whole movie Laughing

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 15:36:30 2009.

bimmer wrote:

I just felt the Punch missing in the whole movie

May be you looked the whole movie for punches. I didn't expect that much punches but only in appropriate place like climax and I loved the movie.

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 15:38:17 2009.

May be you looked the whole movie for punches. I didn't expect that much punches but only in appropriate place like climax and I loved the movie.

I just felt the Punch missing in the whole movie Laughing

Whatever.

..Iam happy you liked the movie

From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 15:42:52 2009.

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 18:51:47 2009.

Thanks, bimmer!

From: podaskie on Fri Feb 6 16:23:55 2009.

finally watched the movie and theatre is not housefull(dnt know why)

first of all i liked bala's sethu and pithamagan,going through nan kaduval, 1st half is good,comedy,bgm,acting are all good but bala has taken 3 years of time,so he should concentrate on story(very thin line story&can't able to understand properly) rather than performance of actor's

in boxoffice i dnt think it will do well,because family audience and kids will def skip this movie

verdict:watchable once, specially youth like me will like it!
From: mareen on Fri Feb 6 16:26:58 2009.

just watched nan kadavul dont know what happened there. Arya was good throughout the movie and even better is pooja but so many scenes got cut and too many words got censored. making the movie unwatchable and confusing. The movie's run time was only around 2hr 10 mins. ( maybe even short ). Most of the fights were cut and not even a scene showing cannibalism.

I dont know why it took 3 years to complete. looked like a 6 month movie.

Top performances by arya and pooja. However, the reality of showing how disabled childrens are treated for the sake of few pence was really moving, i dont think a soft heart person could watch most of it.

watchable once
From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 17:04:34 2009.

[tscii]sify says "outstanding! "

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Bala, the man who has revolutionized Tamil cinema with meaningful and realistic films like- Sethu, Nandha and Pithamagan, has made another masterpiece with his latest Naan Kadavul. The film touches your soul and makes you salute the brave director for making this authentic milestone classic.
It is a technical splendor embellished with breathtaking visuals, brilliant music score by the maestro Ilayaraja and award winning performances by Arya, Pooja and the entire cast of real life beggars and Sadhus. The film definitely defies all conventions and demolishes all moulds, as the maverick director breaks traditional formula attached to commercial cinema in Tamil. The way the film has been made and packaged is slick and it moves like an edge of the seat thriller and is racy and to the point at 2 hours and 15 minutes.

The film opens with a father in search of his son who he had abandoned 15 years back in Kasi, as per the advice of all astrologers, who predicted that �he was a bad omen�. Now the father in remorse finds his son who has become an Aghori ascetic sanyasi Rudran (Arya) with no human emotions but has the strength of 1000 elephants and has some sort of divine power and calls himself 'Bhagavan' and always mutters- Bham, Bham Mahadev.

The father brings back his son to his native village Malaikovil, in south Tamilnadu, famous for its hill temples. A bald tough guy called Muthalali (Rajendran) runs a profitable beggar mafia business using physically disabled young, old and children to get sympathy from the pilgrims who visit the temple.

In Pics:Star studded premiere of Naan Kadavul in Chennai!

Muthalali's assistant is Murugan a man whose conscience torments him at the same time is constantly living in fear of his boss who is ruthless and has no human feelings. One day Murugan kidnaps a blind beggar and a singer Hamsavalli (Pooja) and forces her to be a part of the gang.

Enter Nair a slimy and dirty guy who controls organized begging in Kerala, and enters into a deal with Muthalali, arranged by a cop, to buy some of these Urupadi's (pieces) and take them to Sabarimala, Malayatoor and other places in Kerala for begging!

The story takes a turn as the downtrodden people's prayers are heard and Rudran turns out to be their savior, leading to a stunning climax and the film ends with a positive message. Bala once again asserts that traditional human values will always triumph over evil.

The USP of the film is its perfect casting. The unkempt long hair, the red loony eyes, the ash-smeared face, the tongue snaking out of his lips, and that sloshy voice, Arya pumps life and blood and gets under the skin of Rudran, making his animal like character so convincing. He has delivered a performance that is hard to forget even days after you've watched the film. Pooja as the blind singer is luminous and her outstanding performance will be talked about, as the film belongs to her, especially the lead to the climax.

The bunch of beggars handpicked by Bala are amazing whether it is eunuch or the midget boy, the guy who plays Murugan and Rajendran as the villain are outstanding. The haunting music of Ilayaraja gives the feel the mood and camera work of Arthur Wilson is poetry on celluloid. The screenplay and dialogues of noted Tamil writer Jayamohan is a major plus for the movie.

Bala can ask Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire director) to take a walk. He has brilliantly portrayed the dark and disturbing side of the beggar mafia in places around devotional institutions in the country. It is stark realistic yet with large dosages of humour and leaves a lump in our throat. This is undoubtedly new radical Tamil cinema. The industry people may call it Paithiam to make a picture on Pichakaran's, but Bala has the guts to do it.

On the down side, the scene where Arya's father recognizes his son among thousands of sadhus in Kasi is a little hard to believe. Most of premises like the one inside the train (Pitamagan) or the place that beggar's live (Sethu) looks familiar. There are some disturbing scenes and the film cannot be digested by one and all.

If Subramaniapuram was level 2 in Kollywood cinema, Naan Kadavul is level 3, it is our journey to international cinema. Bala has made it hard hitting, raw and riveting, qualities that is lapped up by worldwide connoisseurs of good cinema.

To be honest, the director has shown the dark underbelly of our less privileged citizens who are living like bonded slave laborers controlled by organized crime syndicates. The climax chase of Arya and villain is one of the most fantastic scenes you've seen in films for a long, long time.

It's a much darker film than the director�s previous works. After the film, the entire audiences stood up and gave a stand ovation, something that has not happened in recent times. Watch Naan Kadavul, because it's one of those films that won't easily get out of your head long after the film is over.

Verdict: Outstanding

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http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=14852479&ctid=5&cid=2429

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Seems like it has been given already in an earlier page!

Anyway, overall the reviews are GOOD! Bala has lived upto the expectations at least for tamil audience and critics
From: A_Ajith on Fri Feb 6 17:28:26 2009.

Konjam consistent opinions kudunga pa! Pls dont confuse

but anyway ..its not going make a 40.32 crore loss to its distributors as the CLASSIC did..

Thanks, bimmer! Smile

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 18:53:09 2009.

Naan kadavul has been released in pune :shocked:

Oh my Kamal, i cant believe this.. i m going to the movie in 4 hrs time.. i am not gonna sleep. .
From: Movie Cop on Fri Feb 6 18:56:29 2009.

Anban wrote:

Naan kadavul has been released in pune :shocked:

Oh my Kamal, i cant believe this.. i m going to the movie in 4 hrs time.. i am not gonna sleep. .

Anbe Kadavul!

From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 19:20:16 2009.

but anyway ..its not going make a 40.32 crore loss to its distributors as the CLASSIC did..

Thanks, bimmer! Smile

Lets wait and see

Iam Glad Ajith and Surya rejected this Role...It was Not worth 3 Yrs defenitely...and I liked Billa>>>>>>>NK...

From: Anban on Fri Feb 6 19:21:40 2009.

bimmer, comparing billa with this movie is total stupidity..

billa is a good masala movie..

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..
From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 19:39:13 2009.

Anban wrote:

40.32 crore loss to its distributors as the CLASSIC did..

Well when such a loss happens, the distributors will not invest their money on such stars anymore but let us see what happens in the next project of super*
From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 19:40:42 2009.

Anban wrote:

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure!
From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 21:24:29 2009.

thamiz wrote:

Anban wrote:

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure!

Ethu Sir Offbeat...

Intha List Kooda compare panraingala

1. Hey Ram
2. Anbe Sivam
3. Paruthiveeran
4. Thavamai Thavamirunthu

NK is now where in this league..Just because One wants to show difference...Bala has totally screwed up the Movie...

Can anyone tell me why Bala should be considered a First league director??? he is not
From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 21:26:03 2009.

Anban wrote:

bimmer, comparing billa with this movie is total stupidity..

billa is a good masala movie..

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

I had compared Ajith's Movie Billa which he would not have made if he was commited to NK...

I personally would regret that
From: joe on Fri Feb 6 21:53:22 2009.

NK released in 5 theatres in Singapore
From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 21:55:43 2009.

bimmer wrote:

Can anyone tell me why Bala should be considered a First league director???

idhu therinju enna panna pOreenga
From: MADDY on Fri Feb 6 21:56:09 2009.

Anban wrote:

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

have u watched it?
From: bimmer on Fri Feb 6 22:52:27 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

bimmer wrote:

Can anyone tell me why Bala should be considered a First league director???

idhu therinju enna panna pOreenga

Summa our arvathulu kettan...Bala va pathi oru Bigraphy ezhuthalamey nu yosichen...

Any Regrets

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 22:54:22 2009.

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure! Laughing

Ethu Sir Offbeat...

Intha List Kooda compare panraingala

1. Hey Ram
2. Anbe Sivam
3. Paruthiveeran
4. Thavamai Thavamirunthu

NK is now where in this league..Just because One wants to show difference...Bala has totally screwed up the Movie...

Can anyone tell me why Bala should be considered a First league director??? he is not

PV is a blockbuster and critically acclaimed one in the list. Rest are bombed at the BO miserably. Lets wait for couple of days/weeks before judging about NK's BO status.

Your last line says more about your stand, so no wonder you are dissing out NK.

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 6 22:55:39 2009.

bimmer wrote:

.Bala va pathi oru Bigraphy ezhuthalamey nu yosichen...

idhula enna kanjaththanam oru trigraphy, oru fourgraphy, oru tengraphy, or oru hundredgraphy ezhudhalaamaE

From: VENKIRAJA on Fri Feb 6 22:59:43 2009.

.Bala va pathi oru Bigraphy ezhuthalamey nu yosichen...

idhula enna kanjaththanam Confused

oru trigraphy, oru fourgraphy, oru tengraphy, or oru hundredgraphy ezhudhalaamaE Rolling Eyes

Hallo... padatha pathi EthAchum pEsunga..

From: thamiz on Fri Feb 6 23:00:09 2009.

bimmer wrote:

thamiz wrote:

Anban wrote:

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure!

Ethu Sir Offbeat...

I did not mean that, bimmer.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 6 23:03:41 2009.

thamiz wrote:

Anban wrote:

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure!

Just watch this film you will know why anyone can't replicate this kind of film. Definitely once in a life time film.

From: joe on Fri Feb 6 23:17:17 2009.

.Bala va pathi oru Bigraphy ezhuthalamey nu yosichen...

idhula enna kanjaththanam Confused

oru trigraphy, oru fourgraphy, oru tengraphy, or oru hundredgraphy ezhudhalaamaE Rolling Eyes

Ellorum siringappa

From: sgokulprathap on Fri Feb 6 23:51:01 2009.

.Bala va pathi oru Bigraphy ezhuthalamey nu yosichen...

idhula enna kanjaththanam Confused

oru trigraphy, oru fourgraphy, oru tengraphy, or oru hundredgraphy ezhudhalaamaE Rolling Eyes

Ellorum siringappa Huh?!

sirichuttOm.

From: Vivasaayi on Fri Feb 6 23:59:13 2009.

The movie is getting extreme positive reviews and some extreme negative reviews by few - understandable.
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 0:01:03 2009.

Vivasaayi wrote:

The movie is getting extreme positive reviews

understandable
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 7 0:14:02 2009.

Naan Kadavul - Worth the Tapas
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 0:29:23 2009.

going to watch tonight
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 1:16:05 2009.

Ramakrishna wrote:

Saw the movie....
The movie is good in parts.
First half is just ok. Second half starts off well but gets predictable later
Climax
Music is tooo good

most honest review......

From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 1:27:58 2009.

Saw the movie....
The movie is good in parts.
First half is just ok. Second half starts off well but gets predictable later
Climax Confused2

Ramakrishna wrote:

Music is tooo good

most honest review......

Maddy paathacha?

From: cancer on Sat Feb 7 1:31:39 2009.

Saw the movie....
The movie is good in parts.
First half is just ok. Second half starts off well but gets predictable later
Climax Confused2

Ramakrishna wrote:

Music is tooo good

most honest review......

didnt watch the movie, i feel ramakrishna and Mr.india's short reviews seems to be a honest one.

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 1:31:56 2009.

Saw the movie....
The movie is good in parts.
First half is just ok. Second half starts off well but gets predictable later
Climax Confused2

Ramakrishna wrote:

Music is tooo good

most honest review......

Maddy paathacha?

no, not planning today..........i'm not a big fan of 'Brand' bala........

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 1:55:51 2009.

padam OK appadinnu sonnA honest review-vA? athu avarOda opinion. I enjoyed it so much, that is my opinion. Not because of being a Bala/Ilayraaja fan I praise this movie, I honestly loved the film. I was disappointed with nandhA but not this time.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 1:58:55 2009.

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 1:59:43 2009.

padam OK appadinnu sonnA honest review-vA? athu avarOda opinion. I enjoyed it so much, that is my opinion. Not because of being a Bala/Ilayraaja fan I praise this movie, I honestly loved the film. Huh?!

I was disappointed with nandhA but not this time.

Even I was disappointed with Nandha and Pithamagan...

But this one is something special from bala.... Something unexplored!!

From: villan007 on Sat Feb 7 2:01:22 2009.

MADDY wrote:

Vivasaayi wrote:

The movie is getting extreme positive reviews

understandable
From: villan007 on Sat Feb 7 2:05:55 2009.

Anban wrote:

Oh my Kamal,
From: vasanth2006 on Sat Feb 7 2:09:31 2009.

Stunning!!!!

Bala has shown dark unknown world....

I feel the below 2 negative points reduce the intensity of the movie.....

1) Arya's part is very less in movie....They should have reduced some portions of beggers and should have increased Arya's presence......

2) Censor cuts .....So the lead to the climax and climax scenes are little bit abrupt......
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 2:15:27 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

without watching the movie, he said it is a "once in a lifetime" movie - which is why i said they were not honest opinions.........
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:15:38 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

Even I was disappointed with Nandha and Pithamagan...

But this one is something special from bala.... Something unexplored!!

Yes, that is the prime reason it clicked for me. கதைக்களம் புதுசு, அதை கையாண்ட விதமும் அருமை. தவறுகள் இருக்கலாம் இங்கொன்றும் அங்கொன்றுமாக. ஆனால் இதை விட இந்த விஷயத்தை சிறப்பாக எடுக்க முடியுமா என்பதே கேள்வி.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:17:28 2009.

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

without watching the movie, he said it is a "once in a lifetime" movie - which is why i said they were not honest opinions.........

MADDY,
Don't worry, he wrote that message based on his brother's opinion. Let him come back from the movie hall, I am confident he will say the same again.

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 2:20:55 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

I am confident he will say the same again.

i knew this 2 yrs back
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:24:32 2009.

vasanth2006 wrote:

2) Censor cuts .....So the lead to the climax and climax scenes are little bit abrupt......

Censor board-a Kavingar Vikramaathithyan(?) padaththula thittura mAthiri thittanum pOla irukku...
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:27:13 2009.

Also the guy Krishnakumar(?) who has done couple of comedy tracks with Vadivelu has acted so well in NK.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:29:44 2009.

MADDY wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

I am confident he will say the same again.

i knew this 2 yrs back

Good for you man, you knew things even before they happen.

From: Sanjeevi on Sat Feb 7 2:34:33 2009.

I am confident he will say the same again.

i knew this 2 yrs back

Good for you man, you knew things even before they happen. Smile

hub vijay (atm)

From: Sanjeevi on Sat Feb 7 2:38:19 2009.

I won't expect any message or scientific logic from bala movies because they give real life feel. The treatment and the way he handles his characters are mindblowing. Even I liked Nandha, the last in bala's best movies for its treatment.

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 2:39:07 2009.

I am confident he will say the same again.

i knew this 2 yrs back

Good for you man, you knew things even before they happen. Smile

hub vijay (atm)

idhu atm vijay illa, guna kamal kooda sollidalaam - u guys decided 2 yrs back to give good reviews for this movie and doing it.....

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:41:39 2009.

I won't expect any message or scientific logic from bala movies because they give real life feel. The treatment and the way he handles his characters are mindblowing. Even I liked Nandha, the last in bala's best movies for its treatment.

இந்த படம் பார்த்தீங்கன்னா தெரியும் நந்தாவும் பிதாமகனும் ஒண்ணுமே இல்லைன்னு, எனக்கு அப்படித் தான் தோணிச்சு படம் பார்க்கும்பொழுது.

From: Sanjeevi on Sat Feb 7 2:42:15 2009.

yeah enakku innaikku sappitta vazhaipazam inikkumnu 5 varusham munnadiyae theriyum
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 2:46:02 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

yeah enakku innaikku sappitta vazhaipazam inikkumnu 5 varusham munnadiyae theriyum

that was my point abt u guys - thank u
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 2:51:45 2009.

Another blog review

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 3:05:35 2009.

Lots of spoilers in the review below

I DO NOT ENDORSE ALL VIEWS OF THIS BLOGGER

http://enathasolla.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

Quote:

நான் கடவுள்.

முக்கிய அறிவிப்பு: இந்த விமர்சனத்தைப் படித்தால், 'நான் கடவுள்' படம் பார்க்கும் போது சுவாரசியம் குறைந்துவிடும் என எண்ணி தயவுகூர்ந்து படிக்காமல் இருக்க வேண்டாம். கண்டிப்பாய் படியுங்கள். ஏன் இப்படிச் சொல்கிறேன் எனப் படம் பார்த்தபின்னோ அல்லது இந்தப் பதிவைப் படித்த பின்னோ தெரியும்.

ஒரு பார்வை: நல்ல கதை. அகோரி கிகோரியென புதுப் பெயர்கள். அட்டகாசமாய் உயரமாய் ஆர்யா. படம் பிய்க்கும் என நினைத்தால், தலையைப் பிய்க்க வைக்கிறது. படம் முழுவதும் ஆர்யா இந்தியில் பேசுகிறார் (திட்டுகிறார்) அல்லது சமஸ்கிருதத்தில் மந்திரம் சொல்கிறார்.கஞ்சா குடிக்கிறார். மொத்தம் எட்டு காட்சிகளில் வருகிறார் ஆர்யா. பாவம், விக்ரம் மாதிரி, சூர்யா மாதிரி 'பாலா படத்தில் நடித்தால் பெரியாளா ஆயிருவோம்!' என்ற கனவோடு நடித்தவரின் தலையில் கல்லைப் போட்டிருக்கிறார் பாலா. இந்தப் படம் பார்த்தால் தான் தெரிகிறது, விக்ரமையும் சூர்யாவையும் பெரிய நடிகர்கள் ஆக்கியது பாலா அல்ல, அவர்கள் தான் தெரியாத்தனமாய் பாலாவை பெரிய ஆள் ஆக்கித் தொலைத்திருக்கிறார்கள். (அந்தப் பாவம் அவர்களை விடவே விடாது!!) ஆர்யாவுக்கு நடிக்க சுத்தமாய் வாய்பில்லை. கஞ்சா குடித்துவிட்டு கரகர குரலில் தொண்டைப் புற்றுநோய் வந்தவர் போல் கத்தவிட்டிருக்கிறார் பாலா. ஆர்யாவைப் பார்த்தாலே நமக்கு பாலா மீது கோபமும் ஆர்யா மீது பாவமும் வருகிறது. படத்தில் எங்கு காணினும் பிதாமகனின் அழுகிப்போன வாடை. பழைய பாடல்களைப் போட்டு பழைய நடிகர்கள் வேடத்தில் பிச்சையெடுக்கும் சிலரை காவல் நிலையத்தில் ஆடவிட்டுருக்கிறார், சிம்ரனும் சூர்யாவும் ஆடியதைப் போல. ஆர்யாவைக் கண்டு போலீசுகாரர்கள் மிரளுகிறார்கள், விக்ரமைக் கண்டு பிதாமகனில் மிரண்டதைப் போல. சண்டைகாட்சிகளும் பிதாமகனையே நினைவூட்டுகின்றன. படத்தின் பிரதான பங்கேற்பாளர்கள் (நடிகர்கள் எனச் சொல்வதில் சற்றும் மனமில்லை எனக்கு) பிச்சைக்காரர்கள். அதுவும் சாதாரணமாய் தென்படுபவர்கள் இல்லை, பொதுவாக நாம் நூறு பிச்சைக்காரர்களைப் பார்த்தால் அதில் ஒரு இரண்டு பேர் மிகவும் கொரூரமாகவும், பார்க்கவே பயம் வரவழைப்பவர்களாகவும்,அருவெறுப்பாகவும் இருப்பார்களே அதைப்போலத்தான் இந்தப்படத்தில் பாலா காட்டியுள்ள அத்தனைப் பிச்சைக்காரர்களுமே இருக்கிறார்கள். மிகவும் கொடூரமான முறையில் மிகவும் 'க்ளோசப்' (CLOSE UP)யில் அவர்களை படம் முழுதும் காட்டியுள்ளார். அவர்களும் நகைச்சுவை என்ற பெயரில் பாலா சொல்லிக்கொடுத்த கருமங்களை பேசிக்கொண்டு தாங்களாகவே பல நிமிடங்கள் சிரித்துக்கொள்கிறார்கள், காமிரா அவர்கள் முகத்தில் மெதுவாக பயணிக்கிறது, நமக்கு வயிற்றை புரட்டுகிறது, பயமாய் இருக்கிறது. ஊனமுற்றவர்களை பல இல்லங்களில் இருந்து அழைத்துவந்து அசிங்கப்படுத்தியுள்ளார் பாலா. அவர்களைப் பார்த்தாலே காசு கொடுத்து படம் பார்க்க வந்த நம் மீதும், பாலாவை நம்பி வந்த அவர்கள் மீதும் பாவமாய் இருக்கிறது. பூஜா பாவப்பட்ட நடிகை. ஒரு நடிகையை எவ்வளவு அருவெறுப்பாக, அசிங்கமாக காட்டமுடியுமோ அப்படிக்காட்டியுள்ளார்கள். படத்தில் அவர் மட்டுமே கொஞ்சம் நடித்திருக்கிறார். ஆனால் வேண்டுமென்றே திணிக்கப்பட்ட அவரின் 'மேக்கப்'ஆல் நம்மால் அவரின் நடிப்பை ரசிக்கமுடியவில்லை. அதுவும் கடைசி காட்சியில் வாந்தி வருகிறது. திடீர் திடீர் என்று பழைய படப் பாடல்கள் சம்பந்தமேயில்லாமல் படத்தில் ஒலிக்கின்றன. யாராவது பாடுகிறார்கள், அல்லது வானொலியில் ஒலிக்கிறது. படத்தில் தமிழ் மிகவும் கொஞ்சமாக வருகிறது. அப்படியே வந்தாலும் பின்ணணி இசை வசனங்களைத் தின்கிறது. ஆர்யா அதில் தனக்கு தமிழ் தெரிந்தாலும், என்ன கண்றாவிக்காக தமிழர்களான சக சாமியார்களிடமும் தன் குடும்பத்தாரிடமும் இந்தி பேசுகிறார் என விளங்கவில்லை. படத்தில் என்ன நடக்குது என சுதாரிக்கும் முன் இடைவேளை வந்துவிடுகிறது. இது ஒரு கிறுக்குப்பிடித்த, குரூரமான, வக்கிரமான படமென்றால் அது மிகையாகாது. பாலாவினுள் இருந்த கலைஞனின் தலையில் சேதுவுக்குப் பின் 'கணம்' புகுந்து விட்டது. தான் என்ன எடுத்தாலும் உலகம் பாராட்டும் என்ற நினைப்போ என்னவோ!!தான் நினைத்த போது மட்டும், பொழுது போகவில்லையென்றால் மட்டும் 'நான் கடவுள்' படப்பிடிப்புக்குப் போக வைத்திருக்கிறது. திரைக்கதையே எழுதாமல் மனதில் தோன்றிய கொடூரங்களையெல்லாம் கோர்வையேயில்லாமல் படமாய் எடுக்கவைத்திருக்கிறது. இனி தயவுசெய்து பாலா சினிமா எடுப்பதை மறுபரிசீலனை செய்வது நலம். அல்லது அவரை தேவையில்லாமல் புகழ்ந்து தொலைத்த பாலு மகேந்திரா, மணிரத்னம் போன்றவர்களுக்கெல்லாம் அசிங்கம். நான் கடவுள் படத்தைப் பார்த்துத் தொலைத்த கடுப்பில் தான் இளையராஜா, 'நான் கடவுள்' பாடல் வெளியீட்டிற்கு வரவில்லையோ என்னமோ! அஜீத்தை தாக்கவேண்டிய புயல், பாவம் ஆர்யாவை ஆட்கொண்டுவிட்டது. அஜீத் தப்பித்தார். ஆனால் மக்களே நான் எல்லாவற்றையும் பொறுத்துக்கொள்கிறேன், ஆனால் இந்தப் படத்தையும் புகழ்ந்து தள்ளி விமர்சனம் எழுதியுள்ள சில இணையங்களின் வக்கிர புத்தியை தான் என்னால் சகிக்க முடியவில்லை!! தயவு செய்து பார்த்துவிடாதீர்கள் இந்தப் படத்தை. முக்கியமாக குழந்தைகளுடனும், வயதானவர்களுடனும், கர்ப்பிணிப் பெண்களுடனும், இதயம் பலவீனமானவர்களுடனுமோ போய்விடாதீர்கள்,. ஆபத்தில் முடியும்.

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 3:07:09 2009.

Lots of spoilers in the review below

I DO NOT ENDORSE ALL VIEWS OF THIS BLOGGER

http://enathasolla.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

Quote:

From: Sid_316 on Sat Feb 7 3:07:40 2009.

NK is good.. but very dark and disturbing.. Ilayaraja is god!
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 3:09:36 2009.

Sid_316 wrote:

NK is good.. but very dark and disturbing.. Ilayaraja is god!

Yeah, Ilayaraaja is the only Maestro and only God in India. Proof: NK
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 3:13:44 2009.

MADDY wrote:

Lots of spoilers in the review below

I DO NOT ENDORSE ALL VIEWS OF THIS BLOGGER

http://enathasolla.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

Good one MADDY

I agree with him on only one point Pooja's make-up was overdone little bit, but that is not a big issue
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 3:50:15 2009.

Paathutten pathutten
From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 4:02:51 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.
stupid me.. went for a 2-hr nap a 6am in he morning. got up a 8.. again wanted to sleep for 5 mins.. all over.. ippo time 1.30pm.. next show is at 3pm..

TIME guys have scheduled a mock interview for me by some ex-IIM panel at 6...

i am going to naan kadavul nowww...

From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 4:03:48 2009.

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

without watching the movie, he said it is a "once in a lifetime" movie - which is why i said they were not honest opinions.........

no one has ever made a movie on such a theme.. that makes it "once in a life time"

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 4:10:07 2009.

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

without watching the movie, he said it is a "once in a lifetime" movie - which is why i said they were not honest opinions.........

no one has ever made a movie on such a theme.. that makes it "once in a life time"

i still dont see the connection between "unique" or "first time" with "once in lifetime" i think u r just trying to hype this film just looking at IR's name

From: thilak4life on Sat Feb 7 4:12:03 2009.

Sid_316 wrote:

NK is good.. but very dark and disturbing.. Ilayaraja is god!

Thanks. Much Looking forward.
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 4:30:19 2009.

I loved the movie.

First 20 mins was excellent. But miserably fails to move on with a good screenplay. There were good scenes in the first half. Overall the first half was boring.

First 5-10 mins int the second of made me regret for the money i spent to watch this movie. No. I was wrong. There comes the turning point, soon after the second half starts. The next 40-50 mins of the movie including the climax is stunning and never seen in Tamil Cinema (or even in Indian Cinema).

Bala, as usual shines well in characterization. Wonderful attempt Bala

Is the film worth watching? Atleast twice or thrice.

With scary looks Arya has done his best. Except for few mantras and some hindi dialogues, he has nothing to speak/act in the movie. However, he makes his presence felt with his looks. Arya

Pooja steals the show with her extraordinary performance. Kudos to bala for getting the best out of her. Award nichayam

Bala�s touch that were seen his Pithamagan is not seen much in this movie But then, there are few scenes which are never seen in cinema. Bala has captured the feel/emotion of those �kai vida pattavargal� very beautifully! Words fail to express the impact that it creates in our hearts. There are so many questions that are asked against god in this movie. Questions may sound valid for atheists.

Music:
Raja proves that he is god once again in this movie. :fall_at_his_feet: His music in second half is terrific.
Right from the intro of Arya , where the camera travels from top angle till the climax, the cinematography is outstanding.

Negative points:
Why does Bala need 2+ years to make this movie? (108 heroines change pannina aagathaan seiyum )

Playing old songs where few characters imitate MGR, Sivaji, Rajni etc Does this kinda sensitive movie require such elements??? It was boring to see

Overall: A very different cinema that captures the world of �abandoned� which we�ve never seen in tamil cinema. It also brings the business of atrocious people behind those orphans to limelight. Barring those boring scenes, movie is definitely worth watching! Second half elevates the movie.

From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 4:36:40 2009.

Looking forward to Anban's opinion, he should be back in couple of hours.

without watching the movie, he said it is a "once in a lifetime" movie - which is why i said they were not honest opinions.........

no one has ever made a movie on such a theme.. that makes it "once in a life time"

i still dont see the connection between "unique" or "first time" with "once in lifetime" i think u r just trying to hype this film just looking at IR's name

lol ..didnt u see my review for movies like MX or maaya kannaadi

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 4:45:32 2009.

Anban wrote:

lol ..didnt u see my review for movies like MX or maaya kannaadi

//tell me the last movie where kamal 'acted' badly - see MX is bad movie but did kamal act bad?? also, tell me last IR album which u found soul-less.....everyone have their own biases - lets agree that and understand it and move on.....//

From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 4:48:02 2009.

lol ..didnt u see my review for movies like MX or maaya kannaadi

//tell me the last movie where kamal 'acted' badly - see MX is bad movie but did kamal act bad?? also, tell me last IR album which u found soul-less.....everyone have their own biases - lets agree that and understand it and move on.....//

i dont remember anyone raving ilayaraja for mayakannadi

From: thilak4life on Sat Feb 7 4:48:42 2009.

Interesting views, Vidhya. Thanks.
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 4:53:13 2009.

thilak4life wrote:

Interesting views, Vidhya. Thanks.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 5:43:37 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Negative points:
Why does Bala need 2+ years to make this movie? (108 heroines change pannina aagathaan seiyum )

Why should we worry about the time he took to finish it? We have directors in the same Kollywood who take 1 year to 1.5 years to complete some pathetic masala flicks. Also do you think it will be easy to get those handicapped people act as they shown in the movie? Even normal kids will take lot of takes to complete their scenes. Unless you have patience it is very very difficult to work with these people. That should be the reason for this much delay. I don't think any other director can even dream about taking a movie of this kind. IMO, the wait is worth.

From: Nasc on Sat Feb 7 6:02:20 2009.

NK is like once in a life time offbeat movie..

Yeah once in a life time for sure! Laughing

Coz his movies are better than most others,importantly original.

From: Nasc on Sat Feb 7 6:12:53 2009.

I have mentioned the Bad qualities of NK...But there are some good credits to the Movie as well.

Ilayaraja...U are the best...had anybody else scored music and BGM (hARRIS) The movie would be a Uruvam Part 2.

The camera...wonderful.

Arya is good...But Pooja OMG...She has the real caliber and Guts..I could not imagine ""Bhavna doing this role"".

Kandippaga kurugiya kannottam..did u imagine pooja cud hv pulled it off b4 watching this movie???under bala anyone can perform;)

From: Mahen on Sat Feb 7 6:20:13 2009.

NK is bala's darkest and most disturbing film that i have seen...But overall Bala This is definitely once in a lifetime movie...I wish i had known more about aghoris/sadhus...Would have appreciated the movie more

Pluses:
-stunning visuals..raw and disturbing
-IR songs and bgm
-the bunch of beggars/handicapped kids, semma performance...In fact they outshined pooja and arya..Performance wise, arya and pooja were ok..

Minuses:
-wafer thin story
- climax is very similar to pithamagan..chasing..throat

IMO, this movie is better than pithamagan
From: karthik_sa2 on Sat Feb 7 6:38:23 2009.

good review vinith...
will have to watch it tom....watched couple of pictures of pooja from this movie...unbelievable....
From: njv on Sat Feb 7 7:22:12 2009.

Saw the movie yday. Probably the best movie i have seen in the past few years.

IR - He has to be first. Oscar and GC dont have enough credentials to award this man. The whole world need to find a new way to award and respect him. Disappointed to see the songs missing, but the movie is sharp and crisp.

Pooja - National award guaranteed

Arya - Not sure about the awards, but have done his role to the T.

Rest of the crews - Great job.

Camera, Editing etc - Top notch.

Bala - Hats off. I hope people, particularly in India, dont take this as another movie and understand the message.

I dont think any scene would disturb women or children. Children may not understand the movie but this is nothing compared to some of young actor movie we see.

Bala - Hats off. Worth the wait.

CM, PM, Collectors & others involved in the crime business - If u cant fix the problems highlighted in this movie, ungal pinaththai puzhu poochchi kooda thingaamal pogattum.
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 7:23:38 2009.

watching the naan kadavul thirai vimarsanam on kalaignar tv.........EXtreeeeeeemmmmmeeeee visuals......my mom refused to watch the thrai vimarsanam show even and walked off to kitchen after seeing 5 mins of scenes i think bala depends completely on these extremely contrived visuals to get the movie going

From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 7:25:32 2009.

watching the naan kadavul thirai vimarsanam on kalaignar tv.........EXtreeeeeeemmmmmeeeee visuals......my mom refused to watch the thrai vimarsanam show even and walked off to kitchen after seeing 5 mins of scenes Laughing

i think bala depends completely on these extremely contrived visuals to get the movie going Smile

if u find it difficult to even view the fellow human beings - hats off to bala for brining the lives of them on screen

high class parsh people only should be seen on screen?...in the thirai vimarsanam they just showed those people and u say its extreme contrived visuals ...hmmm!

From: njv on Sat Feb 7 7:26:25 2009.

i think bala depends completely on these extremely contrived visuals to get the movie going Smile

Go and watch. Dont complain too much. There is a strong messge in here. If not your parents, you need to watch as an youngster and see what we can all do to correct the issue.

Forget about music, IR etc. Let they all be junk. Just watch it for the underlying message. Something that you and I can do to fix the issue to some extend. Please.

From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Feb 7 7:33:55 2009.

kambleet opposite reaksan to Maddy for the thirai vimarsanam - therinjiadhu dhaanE.

I was expecting to be underimpressed because of all the hype here. As late as this afternoon I was feeling pretty unenthusiastic about the film.
But the scenes on TV and the pichchAi pAththiram song was damn damn impressive. Now, I can't wait to see the film.

Contrive, cover drive edhu vENA sollunga......naan indha padaththai paaththE aagaNum.

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 7:38:17 2009.

Negative points:
Why does Bala need 2+ years to make this movie? (108 heroines change pannina aagathaan seiyum Razz

)

Why should we worry about the time he took to finish it? We have directors in the same Kollywood who take 1 year to 1.5 years to complete some pathetic masala flicks. Also do you think it will be easy to get those handicapped people act as they shown in the movie? Even normal kids will take lot of takes to complete their scenes. Unless you have patience it is very very difficult to work with these people. That should be the reason for this much delay. I don't think any other director can even dream about taking a movie of this kind. IMO, the wait is worth.

I Agree. Well, to answer your question,

When you take such a huge time to complete a movie, don't you think that the movie should come out extraordinarily? Would you really say that he has given a complete movie now? or an extraordinary movie? A big NO!!

I agree that it is really challenging to make a movie with these people! Do you think thats the (only) reason delay for the delay of this project? If you think so, then I don't agree. The whole world knows that he took much time to finalize the heroine. He changed the female lead even after the shoot was started. Huh!!!

Movie is good and the characterization, artist performance and the theme are very good. Bala has shown the emotions of the abandoned people excellently. Kudos! Definitely the wait is not worth!

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 7:38:46 2009.

njv wrote:

IR - He has to be first. Oscar and GC dont have enough credentials to award this man. The whole world need to find a new way to award and respect him.

oho!

njv wrote:

CM, PM, Collectors & others involved in the crime business - If u cant fix the problems highlighted in this movie, ungal pinaththai puzhu poochchi kooda thingaamal pogattum.

exactly, infact i share the same disgust with Bala - who has exploited their situation to make a commercial movie and make money out of it.........
From: kannannn on Sat Feb 7 7:41:01 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Contrive, cover drive edhu vENA sollunga......naan indha padaththai paaththE aagaNum.

Inga release illa. Next week London poiyaavadhu paarkanum..

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 7:43:11 2009.

kambleet opposite reaksan to Maddy for the thirai vimarsanam - therinjiadhu dhaanE.

I was expecting to be underimpressed because of all the hype here. As late as this afternoon I was feeling pretty unenthusiastic about the film.
But the scenes on TV and the pichchAi pAththiram song was damn damn impressive. Now, I can't wait to see the film.

Contrive, cover drive edhu vENA sollunga......naan indha padaththai paaththE aagaNum.

ofcourse PR, i come from a different ethnic background (in terms of movies ofcourse

) i would surely watch this movie - i'm still confident of seeing a sethu from this man

viv, u "ASSUME" too many things like i want to see only posh people etc and i didnt want to see beggars etc.......see my review for PV etc.....thats all i have to say

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 7:43:30 2009.
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 7:45:52 2009.

Only two songs in the movie

Bala -

Ivarum, myskinum thittam pottu pandranga pola

Raja's songs have been wasted
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 7:52:33 2009.

njv wrote:

Forget about music, IR etc. Let they all be junk. Just watch it for the underlying message. Something that you and I can do to fix the issue to some extend. Please.

why forget abt IR - that will be the first reason for me to watch this movie

From: MrIndia on Sat Feb 7 7:52:36 2009.

Saw the movie yday. Probably the best movie i have seen in the past few years.

IR - He has to be first. Oscar and GC dont have enough credentials to award this man. The whole world need to find a new way to award and respect him. Disappointed to see the songs missing, but the movie is sharp and crisp.

y u cant appreciate an indian getting to this height.. unnecessary digressions.. Raja sir has done a outstanding job.. only maestro only god .. ithellem vendaamey.

enaala mudiyum apidigaradhu... thannambikai
ennala mattum mudiyum apidungaradhu ... thala ganam

From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 7:54:32 2009.

MADDY wrote:

exactly, infact i share the same disgust with Bala - who has exploited their situation to make a commercial movie and make money out of it.........

obviously u havent seen the previous program on the movie

A lady - one among those people it seems - told how good bala took care of them and they were so fond of bala.

there is a footage where he was taking them on his lap and behaving so normal,whom u say when watched on screen form extreme images.

i just asked what looked extreme for u - he just showed people who still live in our country and u r not answering for it

From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 8:06:30 2009.

Vivasaayi wrote:

exactly, infact i share the same disgust with Bala - who has exploited their situation to make a commercial movie and make money out of it.........

obviously u havent seen the previous program on the movie

A lady - one among those people it seems - told how good bala took care of them and they were so fond of bala.

there is a footage where he was taking them on his lap and behaving so normal,whom u say when watched on screen form extreme images. Laughing

i just asked what looked extreme for u - he just showed people who still live in our country and u r not answering for it Huh?!

viv, i'm used to see people with 2 eyes, 2 hands, 2 legs etc who have jobs that is not begging* - thats normal life for me and 90% of people, so the visuals were extreme for me - i never said visuals were disgusting...there is a lot of difference between extreme/jarring and disgusting....even slitting a chicken's throat is extreme visual for me

im sorry

viv, i dont want to discuss more abt my views here - since u and most here have a pretty much "hardcoded" ideas on my tastes/likes/dislikes and love to read between my lines.......

*i mean no offence to beggars here.....if i was born to one of those beggars, bala would have made a movie on me and if those beggars had born to my dad, they would be doing very good - much better than me.......

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 8:06:37 2009.

Slum people-a kaamichu SDM movie edukkalam. Abandoned orphans-a vachu edukka koodatha?

Betw, Bala has made this movie FOR them. It sheds lights on lives of those people.
From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 8:08:05 2009.

Maddy
From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Feb 7 8:09:09 2009.

nEththu oru aaL padam paathuttu, innum edhuvum ezhudhaama thread-ai etti etti paathukkitturukkAr....
From: Renault on Sat Feb 7 8:10:30 2009.

Can we get back to the movie review please ....
From: MADDY on Sat Feb 7 8:12:39 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Slum people-a kaamichu SDM movie edukkalam. Abandoned orphans-a vachu edukka koodatha?

haha - i'm into familiar territories after a long time - me against 10 IR fans

unga baashai-laye pesuren - neenga(adhavadhu unga sanga urupinargal) SDMa critcise pannumbodhu, naa NK movie criticise panna koodaadha infact i wasnt even criticising the movie - i just felt bala depended on exxxx forget it - wats the point.....
From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 8:14:39 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Slum people-a kaamichu SDM movie edukkalam. Abandoned orphans-a vachu edukka koodatha?

Betw, Bala has made this movie FOR them. It sheds lights on lives of those people.

unlike just a movie to make money.
From: Vivasaayi on Sat Feb 7 8:15:28 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

nEththu oru aaL padam paathuttu, innum edhuvum ezhudhaama thread-ai etti etti paathukkitturukkAr....

eq???
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 8:28:54 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

nEththu oru aaL padam paathuttu, innum edhuvum ezhudhaama thread-ai etti etti paathukkitturukkAr....

padam pAththutARla..... athu pOthum engaLukku.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 8:30:59 2009.

enna ippadi solliteenga, hypennnu... padam pAththuttu vAnga, sila kuRaigaL irunthAlum atleast oru variyAvathu nallathA ezhutha thOnum.

From: Roshan on Sat Feb 7 8:35:54 2009.

Neenga pAkkalEnnAthAn sollanum .. ithana nEram delay paNNathE enakku migaperiya athirchiyA irukku

From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 7 8:38:53 2009.

Saw the movie today. This is purely my opinion about Naan Kadavul.

Amazing and breathtaking!!!! This is the best ever film from BALA so far. Truly portrayed the another world which I have not seen ever before. For me, certainly the film starts new era in Tamil Film Industry. IMO, this movie sets new benchmark in TFI. A pure raw product. No commercial ingredients.

BALA & IR
POOJA breathtaking.
ARYA dazzles.
Every one including technicians behind the screens played their part very well.

Dynamic team effort. Kudos to Bala for providing a good movie. But he may face lot of problems from Human Rights Commission.
From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 8:48:01 2009.

all my friends who saw the movie called me and told "naasam da machaan, vaaippe illa"

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 8:49:24 2009.

unga baashai-laye pesuren - neenga(adhavadhu unga sanga urupinargal) SDMa critcise pannumbodhu, naa NK movie criticise panna koodaadha Rolling Eyes

Slum people-a kaamichu SDM movie edukkalam. Abandoned orphans-a vachu edukka koodatha? Rolling Eyes

haha - i'm into familiar territories after a long time - me against 10 IR fans Laughing

infact i wasnt even criticising the movie - i just felt bala depended on exxxx forget it - wats the point..... Smile

Neenga adhukku thaan indha thread-ku vareenga-nu theriyum

My intention was not to criticize SDM. Betw, many HC fans of IR including me, have not criticized SDM rather we (i) am proud that ARR has been crowned. Unga baashaila solluren, oru IR fan kooda SDM-a criticize panna koodathu-nu neenga kanganam kattikittu alayureenga

Anyways, I'll be watching SDM this week.

//dign

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 8:52:06 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

all my friends who saw the movie called me and told "naasam da machaan, vaaippe illa"

Youngsters will like this movie for sure..... that was the theater response I could sense while watching. I took my sister with me, she loved it.. she wants to watch it again.... probably next week.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 8:55:17 2009.

Anban-na innum kAnOm?

TIME interview session pOittArA?

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 9:07:07 2009.

I don't think what njv said is wrong, even I thought the same thing when I walked out of the theater hall. Earlier I was angry that he is not recognized for his works but after watching NK I am clear on that. I don't care if the world recognizes him or not. His music is beyond all those awards and no award is worth for his music. One way NK cleared my mind regarding this issue.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 9:29:22 2009.

When you take such a huge time to complete a movie, don't you think that the movie should come out extraordinarily? Would you really say that he has given a complete movie now? or an extraordinary movie? A big NO!!

Definitely the movie looks like not a complete one. The reason is: no scenes involved describing the agOris, not even in dialogues. Luckily we have got the info through the internet and we read about them, so we could connect to the character and understand. But what about the regular people who don't know or didn't read anything about agOris. For them the film will look more incomplete/ not convincing. The culprit is Censor Board.

oru chinna clear illAtha vishyamum irukku but need to think about it later.

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 10:09:27 2009.

That is my complaint too. Arya's character has not been told well. We understood easily. But regular movie goers may not understand. This is one big flaw. But OTOH, Arya has been portrayed as an ordinary Saamiyar but not a Agori (eating human flesh). So regular movie goers would think that he comes as a saamiyar.

But there was a lil explanation given about arya's character at the start.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 10:16:59 2009.

Yes, that is the main drawback. The little explanation is also in Hindi, I don't think many will understand it.... I didn't. Obviously I formed my understanding based on the articles I read here on the net. I just wish Bala to release an unedited version of the film through black market. The climax needs atleast 10 mins time but it was finished so quickly (probably in 2 mins)

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 10:20:17 2009.

No judge. There was a clear explanation (even tho little) given at the start. I guess you've missed it.

I can explain it here. But it may become a spoiler
From: thilak4life on Sat Feb 7 10:20:59 2009.

Eq, Expecting your review man.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 10:22:34 2009.

viraajan wrote:

No judge. There was a clear explanation (even tho little) given at the start. I guess you've missed it.

I can explain it here. But it may become a spoiler

I didn't miss anything that came in tamil. But what I meant was I don't think anywhere it was said that an agOri eats human flesh.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 10:23:08 2009.

thilak4life wrote:

Eq, Expecting your review man.

avar thAn etti etti pAkkuravarA?
From: thilak4life on Sat Feb 7 10:24:02 2009.

Quote:

Contrive, cover drive edhu vENA sollunga......naan indha padaththai paaththE aagaNum.
From: thilak4life on Sat Feb 7 10:24:47 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

thilak4life wrote:

Eq, Expecting your review man.

avar thAn etti etti pAkkuravarA?

Appadiya?
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 10:27:39 2009.

thilak4life wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

thilak4life wrote:

Eq, Expecting your review man.

avar thAn etti etti pAkkuravarA?

Appadiya?

I thought you would know. PR said one guy watched the film and not yet wrote a single line.

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 10:30:05 2009.

No judge. There was a clear explanation (even tho little) given at the start. I guess you've missed it. Smile

I can explain it here. But it may become a spoiler Confused

I didn't miss anything that came in tamil. But what I meant was I don't think anywhere it was said that an agOri eats human flesh.

That's what I'm mentioning. Since there was no scene that involves such portrayal, regular movies will not find it difficult to understand. For us, aghOri eats human flesh. For them, it's another another group of Saamiyars.

From: irir123 on Sat Feb 7 11:07:49 2009.

Lots of spoilers in the review below

I DO NOT ENDORSE ALL VIEWS OF THIS BLOGGER

http://enathasolla.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

Quote:

நான் கடவுள்.

இனி தயவுசெய்து பாலா சினிமா எடுப்பதை மறுபரிசீலனை செய்வது நலம். அல்லது அவரை தேவையில்லாமல் புகழ்ந்து தொலைத்த பாலு மகேந்திரா, மணிரத்னம் போன்றவர்களுக்கெல்லாம் அசிங்கம்.

oh yes! by that yardstick, MR shd hav stopped making movies right after Roja and Iruvar (which and his later movies anyways got him fame mainly coz of another gentleman who is now creating raves with his GG!) - ippadiye ponaal, I will say MRai தேவையில்லாமல் புகழ்ந்து தொலைத்த anaivarukkum asingam!!

From: kamalsurya on Sat Feb 7 11:15:14 2009.

Watched Naan Kaduvul last night and I was quite taken aback by the realism potrayed in the movie and it was very disturbing, realism has never been potrayed better in any other movie I would say. In Singpore it has rightly banned any kids below 16. I wounldn;t recommend watching this movie with the family for obvious reasons.

The pluses of the movie has to be the camerawork esp in the 1st 10 mins where kasi was potrayed so brillantly. Pooja is also another huge plus, her acting was quite brilliant. The beggars, esp the small boy his comedies was fantastic. Realism of the movie is def a plus though it was disturbing. BGM and songs were up there too.

The huge minus of the movie is Bala here I would say. He didn't give much importance to the role of Arya he didn't really go into his central theme of the 'mercy killing and who he decides to kill. Instead he has just borders his central theme resulting in very little screen time for Rudran. He never really went into show who is rudran, what are his believes and how was he brought up to be.

There was also alot of jumpcuts and alot of diconnection between scenes. Kasi scenes could have been longer though this is my personal request.

On the whole I think Bala screwed up on his central themes and mixed them up badly. He had gone into potraying the plight of the beggers and what really happens there but failed to do the same for 'Rudran.'

Verdict: Thumbs up for for the potraying cinema with such realism and for courage to do such a flim. Thumbs down on failing to potray the main character adequtely.
From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 11:15:41 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Anban-na innum kAnOm?

TIME interview session pOittArA?

heart broken..

devastated....

disappointed..

spoiler
rushed to the theatre.. only to find that the movie hasnt been released there.. padam release aachunu sonna naaye adikka poyitten.. thank god, i slept in the morning..
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 11:18:13 2009.

Bala... :pity:
From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 11:18:29 2009.

kamalsurya wrote:

Verdict: Thumbs up for for the potraying cinema with such realism and for courage to do such a flim. Thumbs down on failing to potray the main character adequtely.

this is what some of my friends told..

well, why should we ASSUME that rudran is the main character of the movie??

did bala ever say so??

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 11:22:13 2009.

Verdict: Thumbs up for for the potraying cinema with such realism and for courage to do such a flim. Thumbs down on failing to potray the main character adequtely.

kamalsurya wrote:

this is what some of my friends told..

well, why should we ASSUME that rudran is the main character of the movie??

did bala ever say so??

Anban, Bala appadi sollala. But Aarya oru vela appadi nenaichurukkalam. Hope he doesn't regret for spending 2+yrs for this movie where he comes only for 40 mins, that too with very less dialogues.

Ks, Your verdict is apt.

From: kamalsurya on Sat Feb 7 11:26:34 2009.

Verdict: Thumbs up for for the potraying cinema with such realism and for courage to do such a flim. Thumbs down on failing to potray the main character adequtely.

kamalsurya wrote:

this is what some of my friends told..

well, why should we ASSUME that rudran is the main character of the movie??

did bala ever say so??

Well title of the movie(Naan Kaduvul)and the promos, trailers and speeches given before the movie made me think so and like viraajan pointed out hopefully Arya doesn't regret after spending 2 yrs for this. I am happy for Ajith or Surya not to have taken up the role. But I am pretty sure his central theme was the agori part and he missed it badly.

From: joe on Sat Feb 7 11:35:47 2009.

Just back from theatre..

Simply OutStanding
From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 11:41:57 2009.

joe wrote:

Just back from theatre..

Simply OutStanding
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 11:52:52 2009.

Joe - u were in theatre Yishun

and ppl who saw the film - was it only 2:15 mts i thought many scenes were cut
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 11:55:05 2009.

directhit wrote:

Joe - u were in theatre Yishun

No..I watched at Golden Mill 8.30 show.
From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 11:55:39 2009.

directhit wrote:

Joe - u were in theatre Yishun

and ppl who saw the film - was it only 2:15 mts i thought many scenes were cut

Yes it was 2 Hrs and 15 mins only....

btw did u like it?
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 11:56:13 2009.

oh ok, yaaravadhu india la pathavanga sollunga - was there only siva om and pichai pathiram songs in the movie kannil paarvai and oru katril ellam inga varave illa
From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 11:58:37 2009.

directhit wrote:

oh ok, yaaravadhu india la pathavanga sollunga - was there only siva om and pichai pathiram songs in the movie kannil paarvai and oru katril ellam inga varave illa

aaamam athellam pogattum, unga review enga?
From: Ramakrishna on Sat Feb 7 11:59:56 2009.

directhit wrote:

oh ok, yaaravadhu india la pathavanga sollunga - was there only siva om and pichai pathiram songs in the movie kannil paarvai and oru katril ellam inga varave illa

ingayum athellaam varla
From: equanimus on Sat Feb 7 12:02:10 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

nEththu oru aaL padam paathuttu, innum edhuvum ezhudhaama thread-ai etti etti paathukkitturukkAr....

I am. I woke up pretty late in the afternoon today. Ok, where shall I start... There are several enormously affecting moments in the film, but I've to say I was disappointed on the whole. This is a film that's so far removed from mainstream Tamil cinema that it's pretty hard to actually fathom Bala's astonishing accomplishment in adopting this kind of milieu for his film with such earnestness, but we've (at least, yours truly has) come to expect such stunning levels of artistic integrity from Bala. I had a strong sense of feeling that Bala lost himself completely in the world he set out to capture (and has captured exceedingly well) in the film and became somewhat indifferent to the 'narrative' itself. There's a profound sense of 'ennui' in the way the film unfolds. ivangaLap paththi unakku ennadA nAn padam edukkaRadhu 'nu solRA mAdhiri oru feeling. Somehow I imagine Bala would consider his experience making the film far more valuable than the pieces that they have put together rather disjointedly for us to see. padaththaip paRRi solla innum niRaiya irukkiRadhu. I'm planning to write a longer post in my blog. And also, will be seeing the film again tomorrow to get a better sense of it.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:11:58 2009.

Jus back from the theatre - read on - no spoilers
title card la Bala vin Naan Kadavul and Story Screenplay Direction : Bala vukku kaithattalgal

Arya intro scene and the camera work that intro got as many claps as a Vijay movie here Pooja's intro got even more claps Utham singh enna pannaaru padathula Title appo vandha song kku music aa? Raja BGM ordinary in the first half till the scene jus before the interval - from that and in second half adhulayum that fight b/w arya and thandavan
Arthur Wilson camera vil malaikovil pramadham one scene where he poses in front of fire was Jayamohan dialogues in many places were superb - loved the scene where the old man talks abt god
Nayantara The small kid who did comedy - absolutely amazing and no emoticons available in Hub for him. naraya jokes - avalo sirichittu udane aazhmanasula oru vali i think this movie has changed the way i'd look at beggars atleast during my lifetime
as for a negative i was expecting sivoham song picturisation to take me to a trance jus as it does whenever i hear it on my fone. konjam takkunnu vandhuttadhaala impact kammiyaa irundhadhu. But another fav of mine Pichaipathiram was - TV la telecast panradhu romba kammiya irukkum indha song though Pooja/Murugan/that girl along with em/thandavan/the small kids/that samiyar/police constable/the girl who gets married to murugan/that dwarf girl ippadi neraya peru manasula kudisai pottu ukkandha alavu arya character nikkala ngaradhu oru varutham. He has done very very very well though - jus that Bala seem to have cut his scenes quite a lot. Naan ennamo inga irukkara censor pasanga kandapadi vettitaanganu veedu vara varaikum thittikitte vandhen

aana Arya/Pooja thavira irukkara cast a vachi oru padam edutha ore karanthirkagavae Bala virkku kodi namaskarangal. Adhuvum avargal irundha ovvoru katchiyum manasil padhindhavai. Climax sattunu mudicha feeling and sela scenes a Bala venumte kaatama vittarunu thonudhu - adhu mattum dhaan ore disappointment
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:12:30 2009.

Anban wrote:

heart broken..devastated....disappointed..
thank god, i slept in the morning..

No problem, see it soon somehow and drop a line here.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:20:18 2009.

directhit;

Yes, the entire cast has done well (esp..Murugan, Thandavam, & the kid) and they occupy most of the screen space. I liked so many dialogues in it...like 'neruppukku yEthudA suththam asuththam'.
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:20:55 2009.

joe wrote:

Just back from theatre..

Simply OutStanding
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:21:47 2009.

Guys,

If you know or come across any special programs on TV regarding NK, please post it here, thanks.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:21:48 2009.

judge - i loved that dialogue the old guy says (after the mallu guy takes off that kid) abt god - dont think any other dir other than bala wud keep it in a tamil film
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:25:13 2009.

directhit wrote:

judge - i loved that dialogue the old guy says after the mallu guy takes off that kid abt god - dont think any other dir other than bala wud keep it in a tamil film

Definitely.... that's the best in the movie. Anybody will be moved away by that situation and the dialogue seemed more appropriate. I could hear claps from the audience, if that scene is not that much intense as potrayed, it would back fire.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:26:13 2009.

censor ithana koduma panniye its so hardhitting Bala

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:28:37 2009.

@Guess ME
Ilaiyaraaja BGM eppadi? konjam kaettu solreengala?

Sorry guys. He is not exactly the kind of person who pays attention to BGM and other technical stuff. He is a Vijay fan (no offense to Vijay fans) who purely looks for entertainment. He liked Pithamagan and Sethu but was disappointed with Naan Kadavul. He liked Pokkiri, hated Kuruvi, says Villu is just ok. So you get a picture now.

wtf

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:30:37 2009.

directhit wrote:

censor ithana koduma panniye its so hardhitting Bala

avarOda padangaLin intha aLavu darknesskkE romba ethirppu irukku. Censor illainA Balavukku freedom koduththA bhoomi thAngAthu.....innum ethirpu thAn jAsthi Agum.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:31:46 2009.

mm rite dhaan - hope he releases a full DVD version
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 12:31:54 2009.

Anoops,
How was the crowd in Yushun?

Despite running in 5 screens ,Golden Mill 8.30 show is full and the whole crowd is of the age group 25-40 ,only two females ..the whole crowd are NRI ,i don't find any locals.

From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 7 12:32:10 2009.

@Guess ME
Ilaiyaraaja BGM eppadi? konjam kaettu solreengala?

wtf

like that kid in NK

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:35:07 2009.

Joe - GV la only one show they are showing villu and padikkadhavan 3 shows but 2 screens and housefull. and movie is NC16 - so kids not allowed and so obviously only youth crowd
kalyan i dont wanna digress in this movie thread - so vuttu vakkaren avara
From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:38:24 2009.

directhit wrote:

mm rite dhaan - hope he releases a full DVD version

appadi oru vishayamE india-la kidaiyAthu
ennudaiya aasai black market-layAvathu release paNNanum.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:39:21 2009.

lets hope someone stole the version screened to censor and uploads it
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 12:40:54 2009.

directhit wrote:

movie is NC16 - so kids not allowed and

Antha kathaiya yen kekkureenga

Together with two friends ,i brought my wife and son (since he is just 3 years old and he will sleep only) ..But the person in counter said children not at all allowed .. (He said this is the first tamil movie with NC 16 ,previously few movies got PG 16 (Parental guidence) ..So my wife also had to return back with my son
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:43:06 2009.

namma oorla ye U/A - ivanunga alambal thaangala - and for this reason i was cursing them all the way back home thinking they cut all stuff

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:43:32 2009.

Together with two friends ,i brought my wife and son (since he is just 3 years old and he will sleep only) ..But the person in counter said children not at all allowed .. (He said this is the first tamil movie with NC 16 ,previously few movies got PG 16 (Parental guidence) ..So my wife also had to return back with my son Embarassed

innum India-la ethukkumE vayasu varambu kidiyAthu, ethuvum evanum eppa vEnAlum paNNalAm. vAzhga suthanthiram.

From: equanimus on Sat Feb 7 12:43:49 2009.

directhit wrote:

loved the scene where the old man talks abt god

The greatest moment in the film IMO. kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:46:45 2009.

loved the scene where the old man talks abt god Bow

The greatest moment in the film IMO. kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

yeah, got reminded of scene in a mallu movie my dad used to talk abt - where the kovil pujari spits at the idol in the temple. Bala

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:49:44 2009.

loved the scene where the old man talks abt god Bow

The greatest moment in the film IMO. kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

That scene is hard-hitting. I don't think any one would object the language he (Kavingar Vikramaaththian I guess) used. Not even Censor Board did anything to it.

From: joe on Sat Feb 7 12:51:10 2009.

DH,
1952 Parasakthi..

அம்பாள் சிலைக்கு பின்னால் ஒளிந்து கொண்டு...

நடிகர் திலகம் : அடேய் பூசாரி!

பூசாரி : யாரு ? அம்பாளா பேசுறது ?

நடிகர் திலகம் : அம்பாள் எந்த காலத்திலடா பேசினாள் அறிவுகெட்டவனே!
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:52:05 2009.

why was there 'thanks to yugi sethu' in the title card?
From: complicateur on Sat Feb 7 12:53:51 2009.

equanimus wrote:

ivangaLap paththi unakku ennadA nAn padam edukkaRadhu 'nu solRA mAdhiri oru feeling.

itha ithath thAn nAn ethirpArkkirEn!

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 12:54:03 2009.

DH,
1952 Parasakthi..

அம்பாள் சிலைக்கு பின்னால் ஒளிந்து கொண்டு...

நடிகர் திலகம் : அடேய் பூசாரி!

பூசாரி : யாரு ? அம்பாளா பேசுறது ?

நடிகர் திலகம் : அம்பாள் எந்த காலத்திலடா பேசினாள் அறிவுகெட்டவனே!

Yes, thanks for bringing it up, the essence is same in different words.

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 12:54:10 2009.

Joe, i think the intensity and language is very very different in this movie and in the one i mentioned. though being a 52 film its to be appreciated. but what they showed here is what ANY PERSON wud react to in real life and NO PERSON wud show in a film

From: joe on Sat Feb 7 12:57:42 2009.

Joe, i think the intensity and language is very very different in this movie and in the one i mentioned. though being a 52 film its to be appreciated. but what they showed here is what ANY PERSON wud react to in real life and NO PERSON wud show in a film Cool

Completely agree with you.

Just i highlighted 1952-laye bold-a solliyirukkanga.

Many places ,Jayamohan's dialogues are sharp.

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 13:02:30 2009.

Exactly. The dialogue that the old man utters at the God
The whole theatre clapped.

Till now i dint want to share this as this may become a spoiler. Now that most of you have seen it I'm sharing it.

Best twenty minutes in the movie,

That Motta mandaiyan (i'm still angry on him ) plans to sell Pooja. The co-beggar (adhaanga co-worker madhiri) rushes to the temple to inform her about this.

Music, Camera, Action, Tension were all at the peak during these twenty minutes. Nail biting. Sathyam speakers-na kekkanuma. Heartbeat yegiriduchu. Innum konjam adhigama IR music potturundharna heart velila vandhurukkum. to Pooja, Aarya, Cameraman, IR, Bala and the whole crew.

I sat up at this scene. Relaxed only at the climax. Just cannot forget this in my lifetime. :salute: to the team.

I'll definitely watch this movie again (and again)!!!!!!!!
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:05:17 2009.

directhit wrote:

namma oorla ye U/A - ivanunga alambal thaangala - and for this reason i was cursing them all the way back home thinking they cut all stuff

they could have cut down lots of scenes and given PG
instead they kept all the scenes (i checked the censor board)

/dig Dhanam was also given NC 16(the first movie to be certified with a rating above PG for theatrical release) end dig/
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:05:29 2009.

Some people are complaining about the time taken to shoot this movie ..haiyoo.. Do you guys really understand the effort need to coordinate these shots ? In many places ,so many small characters are in screen and anywhere you can find a single face go out of coordination.

I can clearly understand the effort needed and the time taken is well justified.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:05:43 2009.

VR - why dont u put the spoilers in white font atleast
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:06:46 2009.

directhit wrote:

VR - why dont u put the spoilers in white font atleast

mahajanangaLe, inimel ella spoilers-kum intha method-a follow pannunga
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 13:07:18 2009.

directhit wrote:

VR - why dont u put the spoilers in white font atleast

Done
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:08:04 2009.

IMO ,The most courageous director in Tamil cinema is Bala.

Bala-vai summa poRa pokkula kuRai solluRathukellam oru thaguthi veNum
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:08:16 2009.

jaaze - i initially thought they cut in sgp, but hub vandhappuram dhaan nammorlaye cut panni U/A kuduthirukkanganu therdhu atleast overseas full version R version release pannirukkalaam
neenga dhanam theatre kku poi patheengala

Joe - and to get those ppl to act Bala deserves the biggest applause ever for that
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:11:30 2009.

directhit wrote:

neenga dhanam theatre kku poi patheengala
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:16:03 2009.

மகாநதிக்கு பிறகு இந்த அளவுக்கும் மனதை பாதித்த படம் வேறு எதுவுமில்லை
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:17:39 2009.

directhit wrote:

why was there 'thanks to yugi sethu' in the title card?

From: Sid_316 on Sat Feb 7 13:18:58 2009.

மகாநதிக்கு பிறகு இந்த அளவுக்கும் மனதை பாதித்த படம் வேறு எதுவுமில்லை

So true .

From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:19:38 2009.

directhit wrote:

directhit wrote:

why was there 'thanks to yugi sethu' in the title card?

he was involved in the story writing?
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:21:16 2009.

Was there any applause for any significantly touching scene (or the climax if it is) cos I heard there were standing ovations in India..

anoop how did u get home. you seem to have come home pretty fast
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:24:48 2009.

jaaze wrote:

Was there any applause for any significantly touching scene (or the climax if it is) cos I heard there were standing ovations in India..
all scenes deserving an applause (quite a lot actually ) got it jaaze. comedy scenes were very well received. dont think this climax wud've got a standing ovation anywhere - here too it didnt movie only 2:15 hours - 9-11:15 i came home by 11:45 or so though now gotto sleep
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:32:03 2009.

After 'Kannai Nampaathe unnai yeematrum' song..

நடிகர் திலகம் அண்ணன் எம்.ஜி.ஆரிடம் " அண்ணே! எவ்வளவோ நல்ல கருத்தெல்லாம் சொன்னீங்க.. உங்களுக்கு ஓட்டு போட்டாங்களே தவிர அதை கேட்டு ஒரு பயலும் திருந்தல்லியே"

After "Oru kinnaithai yenthukiRen' song..

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் தம்பி நடிகர் திலகத்திடம் " தம்பி கணேசா ..உன்னோட நடிப்பையெல்லாம் சரியா சொல்லீக் கொடுக்காம போயிட்டியே ..இப்ப உள்ள நண்டு சிண்டு நடிகனெல்லாம் நடிப்புண்ணு பண்ணுற அலம்பல்.."
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:33:42 2009.

joe
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:33:45 2009.

Joe that scene was nayantara
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:34:24 2009.

directhit wrote:

Joe that scene was nayantara

nayantara in naan kadavul?
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:36:36 2009.

guest appearance like simmy in Pithamagan - poi padam paarunga
From: A_Ajith on Sat Feb 7 13:37:14 2009.

Aarya has been wasted! Not enough footage.

The movie lacked power. Arya has immitated Pithamagan Vikram.

I don't understand why Arya kills that villian! is it based on any vision? Very strange!

Climax was good.

Pooja is singing too many songs and boring us at many points!!!

Her performance is however superb.

IR's BGM is rocking and villian is not as powerful as others in bala movies like nandha and pithamagan.
From: A_Ajith on Sat Feb 7 13:38:25 2009.

The movie is very confusing and i guess its a consequence of too many censor cuts.
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:41:29 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

Aarya has been wasted! Not enough footage.

Aarya character is one among many characters ..That is all.

Hero of the movie is not Aarya ..It is BALA.
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:43:24 2009.

aana avarukku villain
From: crajkumar_be on Sat Feb 7 13:48:19 2009.

nanbargale,
Aandavar padangala thavira vera endha padathayum naan indha alavukku edhirpaarthadhillai. Glad to hear the overwhelming feedback (though IMO Bala has never made a great film - good films with great and ordinary moments). In any case i havent read any detailed review as a matter of 'principle'.
Really looking forward to watching the film for Raasaappu and Bala

Judge,
Nachunu, ulladha sollunga. How is the BGM? (first half, second half ellam)?
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:49:02 2009.

directhit wrote:

aana avarukku villain
_________________
Academy Ruler (AR) Rahman
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 13:52:12 2009.

In UK itself (where movies are given ridiculously high censor ratings) this movie has been passed of as 12A with no cuts made

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 13:55:51 2009.

Saw the movie today. This is purely my opinion about Naan Kadavul.

Amazing and breathtaking!!!! This is the best ever film from BALA so far. Truly portrayed the another world which I have not seen ever before. For me, certainly the film starts new era in Tamil Film Industry. IMO, this movie sets new benchmark in TFI. A pure raw product. No commercial ingredients.

BALA & IR Not Worthy

POOJA breathtaking.
ARYA dazzles.
Every one including technicians behind the screens played their part very well.

Dynamic team effort. Kudos to Bala for providing a good movie. But he may face lot of problems from Human Rights Commission.

From: VENKIRAJA on Sat Feb 7 13:58:06 2009.

nanbargale,
Aandavar padangala thavira vera endha padathayum naan indha alavukku edhirpaarthadhillai. Glad to hear the overwhelming feedback (though IMO Bala has never made a great film - good films with great and ordinary moments). In any case i havent read any detailed review as a matter of 'principle'.
Really looking forward to watching the film for Raasaappu and Bala

Judge,
Nachunu, ulladha sollunga. How is the BGM? (first half, second half ellam)?

From: joe on Sat Feb 7 13:59:41 2009.

CR,
Story illa ,aarya-kku scene kammi ,ithukku ethukku 2 years ..ippadi patta comedy-yellam listen pannama padaththa paarunga..

I am sure you can understand Bala's huge effort in each frame.
From: A_Ajith on Sat Feb 7 13:59:51 2009.

Bala enaku villian ila, i felt bad when ajith missed it, but now i feel its good he missed it.

Confusing theme.
From: jaaze on Sat Feb 7 14:00:10 2009.

joe wrote:

Despite running in 5 screens ,Golden Mill 8.30 show is full and the whole crowd is of the age group 25-40 ,only two females ..the whole crowd are NRI ,i don't find any locals.

There are only 2 shows - night and midnight, right?
I thought only 4 screens (9&10 in yishun, 2 in golden mile)

The locals would not show too much enthusiasm on this kind of movie and also in most movies the NRIs form most of the first few days crowd.
From: joe on Sat Feb 7 14:03:40 2009.

Jazee,
It is playing at Casuway point ,woodlands also.

From: A_Ajith on Sat Feb 7 14:09:02 2009.

I agree with this :

Quote:

On looking back, there are a few things that could have been righted in the movie. Like a little more of an explanation of why it all happens. It all seems a little too sudden sometimes. The sudden appearance of Rudra. The sudden weaving in of the beggars� tales. The sudden correlation between them and him. How does he establish himself as someone like a sorcerer, etc., etc. Plus, most of Hindi and Sanksrit words should have had Tamil and/ or English subtitles to keep the audience in the loop of things. There is much violence (cruelly creative, we say!) that leaves you queasy (the scenes where Thandavam unleashes his terrible anger on his hapless beggars and on Hamsavalli). Add to this the freak-show quality of constant streams of differently-abled people shown on screen and the mindless and ruthlessly expressed cruelty of Thandavam and others; and you wonder what audiences is Naan Kadavul really made for � the mass audience, the �hat-ke� parallel cinema lovers or a mixture of both? Well, it�s certainly not for the faint-hearted.

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/review/reviewnews/n/1365/movie/%3CEM%3ENaan%20Kadavul%3C/EM%3E.html

From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Feb 7 14:09:19 2009.

Thanks eq. Your post underlines the uneasy fear I have been harbouring for a while now.

equanimus wrote:

kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

idhu pOdhum.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 14:32:37 2009.

மகாநதிக்கு பிறகு இந்த அளவுக்கும் மனதை பாதித்த படம் வேறு எதுவுமில்லை

nichchayamA....(athanudan Sethu, Pithamagan, PV climaxesayum sollalAm) Bala has cleverly added the humour side of them to keep it going which was missing in Mahanathi. konjam nambikkai irukku tamilnAttu rasigargaL appreciate pannuvAngannu.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 14:52:35 2009.

seekiram pOi pArunga. pudikkumO pudikkAthO theriyala nichchayam oru puthu experience kidaikkum, nichchayam Kamal fans will love this film.

Re. BGM: Till date my first favorite BGM is Hey Ram. Just for the background score I watched it for four times. Contrast to HR, here the BGM is loud in many places but this script needs this kind of score. I would say Raja is the backbone of this film, without him it is very tough to enjoy it. I could sense that the score is quite different from his earlier films (usually he uses themes for certain sequences and repeats them but I heard only kaNNil pArvai's interludes in couple of places and the rest are different) and the music comes for the whole movie. Atleast for him one should see it in theaters. The rehearsal clip we heard on the web comes for 15-20 seconds (in the fight between Thandavam and Rudran) and it was pushed back to the back layer while the fist sounds were on the top layer. I don't think any regular movie goer will notice that piece, but still Raaja has done so much work in minute details. I need to see it atleast one more time to grasp the score fully. But on the first listen: knock-out punch from Raaja.

The dts mixing was good too...I noticed the technicians involved and remember AL Tukkaram in the list who was earlier part of Yuvan's recording crew. I think he is the one recorded Pithamagan songs also.

From: bimmer on Sat Feb 7 15:01:45 2009.

மகாநதிக்கு பிறகு இந்த அளவுக்கும் மனதை பாதித்த படம் வேறு எதுவுமில்லை

Enna Koduma...Comparing This Movie to Mahanadi

IMHO NK is nothing more than a Mindless film.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 15:05:39 2009.

மகாநதிக்கு பிறகு இந்த அளவுக்கும் மனதை பாதித்த படம் வேறு எதுவுமில்லை

Enna Koduma...Comparing This Movie to Mahanadi Laughing

IMHO NK is nothing more than a Mindless film.

I didn't say anything bad about Mahanadhi, it is one of my favorites but it failed at the BO because it was dark, dark & dark. But NK has some lighter moments that will keep the regulars engaged with the film. Lets wait for couple more days.

From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 15:08:36 2009.

directhit wrote:

Raja BGM ordinary in the first half till the scene jus before the interval - from that and in second half adhulayum that fight b/w arya and thandavan :clap
appo oscar vaangura alavukku illayaa ??
From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 15:09:52 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Anban wrote:

heart broken..devastated....disappointed..
thank god, i slept in the morning..

No problem, see it soon somehow and drop a line here.
oh yea.. i am madly searching for the show timings in mumbai.. :wtf: pune-la release aachunu romba santhosa patten.. ooru fulla SMS pannen

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 15:15:15 2009.

Raja BGM ordinary in the first half till the scene jus before the interval - from that and in second half Bow

adhulayum that fight b/w arya and thandavan Clap

:clap

appo oscar vaangura alavukku illayaa ?? Crying or Very sad

NK padaththula varRa original score mAthiri Raaja pOttuttE irunthA pOthum atleast for one film every year, global recognition vEnAm oru maNNum vEnAm.

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 7 15:17:27 2009.

heart broken..devastated....disappointed..
thank god, i slept in the morning..

No problem, see it soon somehow and drop a line here.

oh yea.. i am madly searching for the show timings in mumbai.. :wtf: pune-la release aachunu romba santhosa patten.. ooru fulla SMS pannen Embarassed

muyaRchiya kai vidAtheenga...mumbai pOi pArunga.

From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 15:19:59 2009.

Raja BGM ordinary in the first half till the scene jus before the interval - from that and in second half Bow

adhulayum that fight b/w arya and thandavan Clap

:clap

appo oscar vaangura alavukku illayaa ?? Crying or Very sad

NK padaththula varRa original score mAthiri Raaja pOttuttE irunthA pOthum atleast for one film every year, global recognition vEnAm oru maNNum vEnAm.

evan kettaan... innum 80's songs-aye 8000 years ketkkalaam..

From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 15:37:41 2009.

sivaram from orkut,

Naan Kadavul - One of a Kind!
Naan Kadavul-one of the most expected movies for various reasons is finally out now and here�s a review.

Let me begin with the expectations of me that it didn�t live up to.

1. I thought it was going to be Arya in Kasi all the way.That was not to be.While the Arya part of this expectation did not suffer too much,the Kasi part definitely did.

2. I had taken for granted that this film was going to revolve around the evolution of a person into an Agora-That is what the title and the pre release hype too suggested. But, the entire span of happenings in the film is about 1/100 th of the days taken for shooting it.

Now,the review.

Naan kadavul is all about a beggar faction and the anguish they suffer at the hands of a merciless businessman � if you could call him that and an agora who can do anything to slaughter the Dhushtan. The philosophy of Rudran�(Arya) s clan is that it has the right,infact responsibility to eradicate the sinners and also to help helpless souls from living a meaningless life. Rudran does exactly that when he is presented with such an opportunity in his hometown when he is brought back forcefully from his Kasi Agora camp.

There has been tremendous research made by the Bala contingent and it shows in the characters and the locations shown in the film. There has not been a film that has showcased beggars to an extent that this film has. The same could be said of the agori lifestyle at Kasi. The sequences shown in the Om Sivom song send shivers down one�s spine. It is a case of surreal realism that exists in the sacred mecca of Hinduism.

The fact that Bala has the uncanny flair to get both commercial and critical acclaim for his films is evident here too � with a few one liners where the audience react in unison. The scene where Rudran says �Ayushmaan bhava� to the police is an elucidation to this point. The characters in the film too have a lot of realism about them that you don�t feel unconnected even though you are being treated by an entirely new subject.
From: Anban on Sat Feb 7 15:38:17 2009.

Where he fails to score is the over exposure of the beggars to quench the thirst of slapstick lovers. The template � Use a character for comedy, brutalize the character in the end,create an emotional connection with the audience- which helped him in Pithamagan has failed to repeat the same here. You don�t get an emotional impact when the beggars are taken by the miscreants to Kerala. If that had been there, the rudra thaandavam that Rudran plays over the Malayalam speaking Villain would have enthralled one in an even bigger scale- Not that it didn�t. Anyway, when the same treatment is meted out to Amsavalli, your emotions come in and it is a treat to watch Rudran maul the main Villain.

One must feel for the villain after Pithamagan and Naan Kadavul-How many more times is he going to be mangled up in Bala�s films!!Anyway he needn�t care when he gets such meaty roles.

The climax was poetic in the manner that it brought out the philosophies of Rudran into action through the main character in the film-Amsavalli.Then,Rudran leaves back to his beloved institution and the frame freezes showing Arya in the background and his Guru in the foreground-Perfect end!

Now to the individual honours.Arya-By far the least luckiest of the current crop of actors(Not recognized even after a few good films that failed to click) seems to have got it his way this time. He has done a lot to his looks and body language and portrays Rudran at ease. It is vital to note that the film has been in the maing for 2 years but still his look in the film doesn�t change much-contrary to that of a few other actors.He does not have much dialogues to mouth.He has done a commendable job with a good dubbing modulation.The scene where the police officer jumps out of his cave when he shouts is an example.

Pooja as the beggar Amsavalli looks the part. It takes so much courage for a heroine to come out of the damsel image to do such a rusty role.She saves her best for the climax where she comes out with an extra ordinary performance and dubbing- The make up in the climax was very realistic and that has helped her cause.

All the other characters carry the Bala stamp and some of the wits that the beggars crack are enjoyable.Bala always seems to have a grudge on a particular caste that he never fails to show off in his films- The judge being the case in point here.

The stunts of Super Subbarayan are riveting � as they usually are in Bala�s films.

There are two behind the screen heroes in this film. The Director of Photography Arthur Wilson is one. He does everything to show Kasi as Kasi is. Also the locales and the angles used were breathtaking and pleasing. The darker scenes were captured in the dark and most of the comical scenes involving the beggars were shot outdoor-Sensible and neat work!

Now I come to the man behind Naan Kadavul.He lives throughout the film.He has done a 1000 films and still people doubt his longevity. Here he answers one and all. He adds soul to the proceedings right from where he comes up with the Sanskrit song in the initial credits. The songs �Om Sivom� and �Pichai paathiram� get the emotions out of you to praise the composer. It is so unfortunate that the songs �Amma un pillai� and �Kannil Paarvai� haven�t been picturised. The background music is even more mesmerizing and sends you to a state of ecstasy -I am not sure if these adjectives are enough. The music elevates the scenes- each and every one- to a higher pedestal.Well, he is a genius and let me stop here.His name is Ilaiyaraja! That�s that!

Verdict: Watch Naan Kadavul,praise the efforts�Definitely one of its kind.

From: equanimus on Sat Feb 7 15:41:48 2009.

Yes, thanks for bringing it up, the essence is same in different words.

MrJudge/Joe,
The emotions of the two scenes are vastly different. The scene in parAsakthi is radical vis-a-vis the sociopolitical situation, and more importantly, overtly satiricial (about the bourgeois, the fatalistic mindset etc.). But here, the strains of emotion is something very different. There's no human "other" to mock at, so to say. The manner in which 'God' is represented itself underlines the distinction. The old man here can't help but direct his seething and helpless anger about this misery at "that b*stard." It's a greatly moving moment.

Joe, i think the intensity and language is very very different in this movie and in the one i mentioned.

Completely agree, Directhit...

From: irir123 on Sat Feb 7 15:43:25 2009.

there was lot of hype abt how the Kasi Kumbh mela was picturised in a natural way - were those scenes chopped as well ?
From: Thirumaran on Sat Feb 7 16:17:53 2009.

Just some minutes back realised that the movie might have released and read the discussions.

No Indian movies in this part of world I cant see the movie for another few weeks at least
From: equanimus on Sat Feb 7 16:30:17 2009.

irir123 wrote:

there was lot of hype abt how the Kasi Kumbh mela was picturised in a natural way - were those scenes chopped as well ?

irir123,
There's some wandering Kasi footage in the title sequence (a bhajan-style song plays in the background) some of which, I suppose, have been shot during the Kumbh Mela. That's about it. Some aghOri rituals are filmed for the 'Om sivOham' song sequence (which begins in less than 10 minutes after the titles).
From: equanimus on Sat Feb 7 16:35:17 2009.

complicateur wrote:

equanimus wrote:

ivangaLap paththi unakku ennadA nAn padam edukkaRadhu 'nu solRA mAdhiri oru feeling.

itha ithath thAn nAn ethirpArkkirEn!

Complicateur,
I'm not sure if I put it across well. I felt that Bala got lost in the world he tried to capture and his filmmaking self got into a state of ennui (vis-a-vis the sheer meaninglessness of making a coherent film of this). I'm struggling to "get" the film myself frankly. Looking forward to your thoughts.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Thanks eq. Your post underlines the uneasy fear I have been harbouring for a while now.

You are quite right PR. Having seen the film, I found it ironical when I read your post about your changing expectations after catching the TV show today. That is, nInga mudhalla solllittu irundhadhu (when discussing about the film some weeks back) gnAbagam vandhadhu. But there's some difference. The audience (adhAvadhu nAn) is not the one shrugging, "ah, well... whatever," at the film's intensity per se. I felt Bala himself was in a worn-out state with respect to "making a film." (Though you might ask, what's the difference? It's after all what I saw in the film.) Anyway, pArththuttu sollunga. Would love to hear your thoughts.

crajkumar_be wrote:

nanbargale,
Aandavar padangala thavira vera endha padathayum naan indha alavukku edhirpaarthadhillai.

Bala,
This was my most expected film for the past three years or more. (Frankly, I've had this sort of expectations only for very few Kamal films. 'dasAvathAram' ellAm AttaiyilayE kidAyAdhu.) Anyway, I urge you to temper your expectations. Some parts of the film are indeed scorching (and that is an understatement), but on the whole it's bound to disappoint I guess. But then, to each his or her own... pArthuttu sollunga.

From: njv on Sat Feb 7 18:08:58 2009.

Watched 2nd time, so I got clarity. I am not giving details since it would reveal the story, but since u watched, u can understand.

Pandit in kasi explain what Aghoris are to father.

Some characteristics of Aghoris were implied for better viewing. E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body. Similar theme after first fight.

Few complains I saw in various threads and my view on them.

Kasi - They have shown kasi to the T. Nothing more or less. Our guys are used to complain for everything. Either "too much scenes in Kasi" or 'kasi is not shown enough". We cant show Kasi till interval. Movie enters into the CORE them in less than 15 minutes.
BTW No kumbamela scenes. Movie doesnt demand one.

Villian not powerful - Well he should not be. He is not underworld don. It is powerful enough for his profession. Anything more would have looked artificial.

Arya's footage - He is not a normal hero to have 5 fights and 5 songs. If u take any tamil movie in recent years and remove fights, songs and comedy sequence, their footage would be much shorter than Arya's footage in this movie.

Pooja Songs - Each time she sing a song is for a reason. Infact the whole church scene should have been followed by Mada Un Kovilil and they removed. Bala removed it to give it a short and apting finish. Her performance, make up etc were awesome.

Dialogues - Yes, certain dialogues were too harsh, but u have to put yourself in their shoes. We all thank god that we are not going through the pain and low life these beggers are going through, but they dont have to. For them temple is a place where they "work" and not worship. Some of the dialogues were told in soft/comedy manner also. Bala used God to question the existence of it. Well done here.

Comparing against Mahanadhi - Yes. We can compare for the core theme and subject taken. In terms of screen play,NK wins. Mahanadhi was too heavy and too serious, but in NK the story is told in lighter vein. There were many dialogues that makes you think and also let you enjoy. Specially dialogues of the children and how they enjoy their life, for what ever its worth.

Editing/Direction - Pooja escape from Pazhani and getting into villan's nest is removed probably to shorten the film, but leaving the church scene raises question. I could imagine atleast 15 more minute of film from the time pooja escape, going to church, sing "maadha un kovilil" and probably falling in the trap of the villan. Also the final fight was shown as a flashback. This is another editing mistake. Probably another 10 min footage removed to shortern. These are the places where indian directors have to improve. They usually screw up in the climax. This is the habit for kamal. Bala improved a bit by removing scenes. Why take something and remove it. Just write down the script for no more than 2 hours including songs and all crap.

Sound - DTS was awesome. I wish we could get IR CDs in this quality. Unbelievable. Raja usually calm down in between and try to let the scene speak for itself. In this movie, its absolute treat from the title to climax. No BGM in climax. All I could hear in theater was "s*hit" or "holy f*ck". Nothing else.

Children watching the movie - Dont have to. This is not a kids movie. Infact none of tamil movies are for kids. A bit grown up may watch, to get idea about the life of fellow child and the pain they go through. This is PG-13. India need similar rating, so parents can decide which movie their child should watch.

Censor = Call it censor or bala, certain secnes have been removed and that make this movie watchable by anyone.

More than all of us watching this movie, following ppl have to watch the movie and TAKE ACTION.

1. Politicians & Govt who control the law - Pass law to ban this business. Please do some work to save this country.
2. Children welfare groups - There are more serious subject like this you need to prioritize than child labor. Child labor atleast give these child better living. This is horrible.
3. Public - Stop giving money to beggers. Offer them food, fruits and medicine if they need. Dont give them money.

As a whole, this is the FIRST bala movie with a SOCIAL MESSAGE. Well done.

From: complicateur on Sat Feb 7 18:25:04 2009.

Complicateur,
I'm not sure if I put it across well. I felt that Bala got lost in the world he tried to capture and his filmmaking self got into a state of ennui (vis-a-vis the sheer meaninglessness of making a coherent film of this). I'm struggling to "get" the film myself frankly. Looking forward to your thoughts.

Just read this and might lend support to your theory. PArkkalAm.. definite airport to theatre thAn nenaikkirEn.

From: njv on Sat Feb 7 18:47:19 2009.

Now I come to the man behind Naan Kadavul.He lives throughout the film.He has done a 1000 films and still people doubt his longevity. Here he answers one and all. He adds soul to the proceedings right from where he comes up with the Sanskrit song in the initial credits. The songs �Om Sivom� and �Pichai paathiram� get the emotions out of you to praise the composer. It is so unfortunate that the songs �Amma un pillai� and �Kannil Paarvai� haven�t been picturised. The background music is even more mesmerizing and sends you to a state of ecstasy -I am not sure if these adjectives are enough. The music elevates the scenes- each and every one- to a higher pedestal.Well, he is a genius and let me stop here.His name is Ilaiyaraja! That�s that!

From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 21:44:12 2009.

Raja BGM ordinary in the first half till the scene jus before the interval - from that and in second half Bow

adhulayum that fight b/w arya and thandavan Clap

only w.r.t what comes in the second half of the movie (excl scenes involving thandavan). The interval pre-scene lerundhu climax varaikkum

appo oscar vaangura alavukku illayaa ??

padam pathi sms anuppuravanga kitta vavutherichal marundhu ellam pune la enga kadaikudhunum kettukunga

From: dell_gt on Sat Feb 7 22:00:40 2009.

eagrly waiting for catch this experience...
From: directhit on Sat Feb 7 23:00:06 2009.

njv, idhu eppo
njv wrote:

E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body
i think i missed it or not able to place it
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 7 23:27:52 2009.

directhit wrote:

njv, idhu eppo
njv wrote:

E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body
i think i missed it or not able to place it

Oru velai satyam'la cut pannittangala? I also don't remember this scene
From: kamalsurya on Sat Feb 7 23:50:10 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aghori

A more in-depth view of an aghori.

Btw in wiki it states that naan kadavul running time as 2hrs and 45 min so there was 1/2hr cut??
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 0:30:50 2009.

directhit wrote:

njv, idhu eppo
njv wrote:

E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body
i think i missed it or not able to place it

me too..
From: steveaustin on Sun Feb 8 1:39:03 2009.

Yesterday, I have experienced Naan Kadavul. Here is my detailed review

Naan Kadavul - A brainchild of Bala epitomizes the real life of physically and mentally challenged people, the beggar mafia operation and to certain extent the life of 'Aghoris'. At a time, when there has been a hue and cry over the redundant stereo-typed commercial crap movies, here comes a realistic movie in a new dimension. Now, Bala has directed a film that breaks new ground all the way. Firmly I can say that Bala provides a whiff of fresh air.

Each and every frame in this movie is stunning and it leaves us speechless (atleast me!). This is not a commercial product but a raw product with extra-ordinary efforts from Bala, Ilaiyaraja, Arthur Wilson, Arya, Pooja, the villain Thandavan (?) and a whole cast including sadhus and beggars who might have stood before camera for the first time in their life. In short, Naan Kadavul spell bounded with outstanding performances both on and behind the scenes. The movie has enough thrill, pleasant, bitter, cruel, surprise and strange moments. The way that all the beggar characters (with physical and mental disabilities) portrayed in the movie will affect us mentally. The kind-hearted helper with lady voice or the dwarf boy or even the others who played the beggar roles have carried the movie on their shoulders in the middle instead of hero or heroine. This is where the movie stands out from the routine Tamil movies. Characterization of each cast deserves a special ovation. Ilayaraja's BGM which grips you to sit throughout the movie is another highlight.

The dwarf boy, who resembles Thavakkalai of 'Mundhanai Mudichu' fame, despite his woes provide us a great sense of humour. Humour was certainly inbuilt in the script unlike the typical Tamil movies. There's a little and song and dance sequences in Police station with the persons resemble MGR, NT, SS and Nayantara who are performing for everyone's entertainment. In a scene when NT responds to a song of MGR, "Neenga sonnadha kEttu vOtu dhAn pOttAnga. Ana innum thirundhala" and MGR says NT that to teach a very small part of his acting skills to current generation heroes then the whole theatre erupts. In another scene, a fake sAdhu asks Arya, "sAmi, appO neenga vAyilE lingam vara veppeengalA?" and when Arya responds by saying, "vAyila lingam varAdhu. adicha ratham varum" again the whole theatre explodes with laughs. So far in my lifetime, I have never witnessed so much claps and whistles often for a movie, which cast non-superstars. These are the samples of Bala's trademark humour sense that can be seen in this movie too. I don't want to reveal the storyline.

Some of the standout performers of the movie is:

BALA:

Stars and Directors don't make film industry. Not always. Film industry makes use of them. Quite often the industry produces heroes and zeroes. He is well-known for giving his all for the sake of his movie. Bala, torch-bearer of Tamil Cinema with realistic films, has brought another memorable master-piece with his Naan Kadavul. The sensitivity with which he handles a difficult subject - the life among 'Aghori' sadhus, the grievous life of blind beggars, physically and mentally disabled people controlled by Mafia - is awesomely impressive. He has narrated this subject in a new way to Tamil cinema. Bala has tried to give answers to some issues like:
Who is God?
Continuous cycle of births and deaths and
How death is a gift to a man who didn't have a good life.

His realistic portrayal of the down-trodden people like beggars, physically challenged and mentally retarded will melt down our hearts. It is certain that he has taken Tamil cinema into the new horizon.

Ilayaraja

The great maestro did his best with BGM. His music is the backbone of the movie and it goes hand in hand with the script. Half of the movie is shouldered by Maestro's BGM. Just a few minutes before interval he takes your breath away with his divine BGM. Again in the climax stunt chase scene between Arya and Thandavan (?) deserves praise. 'Pichai pathiram' song has come out extremely very well as a visual too. It is IR's unforgettable and one of his top 5 performances (BGM) of his career. His music tells the story of the movie, where dialogues were minimal or not there. IR stamped his authority on the BGM.

Arya

Arya as Rudran has done a splendid job. It should have been a difficult job to strike the yogic poses and uttering very few dialogues but to make maximum impact. With his dreaded looks and perfect body language of 'Aghori' sadhu, he has made enough impact even though his screen time was very less considering his hero stature. Arya's introduction itself is an amazing one which ranks one of the best in the TFI. As a 'Aghori' sadhu, he has convinced everyone with the best performance of his career till date. The movie is a milestone of his career.

Pooja

What a performance it is!!! Where did it come from!!! My God. She is simply breathtaking. It is an award winning performance and hats off to Bala to pull out the skills of Pooja and displayed to the world. Pooja, who plays the role of blind beggar has lived in the character of Amsavalli. Hitherto seen as a routine heroine (pattiyal climax may be an exception) she delivered emotional outbursts and lot of variations in her expressions for which IMO, she deserves a national award for her hard work. Her costumes and make-up especially in the climax is impressive too. Amazing performance in the climax! After her introduction, she excels in a scene where she was forced to join Thandavan's (?) group of beggars and when she was dragged into the tempo, her screaming and kicking is still etched in my mind. Such an impact she made in the role of Amsavalli. In fact, I have to say it is an incident that I have witnessed than a movie. The movie is a landmark for Pooja too in her filmy career.

Arthur Wilson

Can anyone write a pure poetry with his camera alone? Why not. I have to affirm that poetry can be written with the camera of Arthur Wilson. Realistic glimpses of crowded Kasi where we have to passover burning cremation grounds, the droves of sadhus along the river Ganga, 'Pitchai pathiram' song, Malaikkoil sequences and the climax chase scene of Arya and Villain are praiseworthy.

Others

The astonishing packages of the film are the villain Thandavan and Murugan (Comedian who came up with Vadivelu in many movies) absolutely played their part extremely well. Here Murugan's role is a serious one. Other real stars are, those who played the roles of physically and mentally disabled beggars. Each one of them played their roles with real conviction while conveying the cruelty, pain that they are suffering in their day-to-day life. Stunt sequences may remind us Pithamagan but this one is better considering the risks, which can be easily seen in the movie. Jayamohan's dialogues are crisp and in one scene he bashes present actor and actresses which may earn the wrath.

Everything in the movie is realistic. No insertion of artificial elements. If Bharathiraja turned the TFI in 1976, then now it's the turn of Bala in 2009 because of its raw nature alone. It may not suitable for light-hearted or masses.

On the flip side, the climax scenes seems to be discontinuous because of Censors. Some of the Hindi / Sanskrit dialogues might have been subtitled in Tamil for the rural and some sections of urban audiences. Few scenes may be devoid of logic. But it can be forgiven for the hard work of BALA.

Go and watch the movie in theatres and not in DVD atleast for the hard work put in by one of the outstanding directors of Tamil Cinema who is trying to take TFI to another level. IMO, after MR's Anjali this might be the movie with all hard work come out splendidly. Since extracting outstanding performances from young children and these physically and mentally disabled must have been really a herculean task than with established actors.

Finally, it is not BALA's Naan kadavul. Here I can say that BALA himself is Naan Kadavul (as a creator).
From: joe on Sun Feb 8 1:52:41 2009.

Steveaustin
From: jaiganes on Sun Feb 8 2:08:51 2009.

@nerd
where are you?
did u see it?
From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 2:53:50 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

@nerd
where are you?
did u see it?

Just back after catching it. A few points:
- Stunning visuals.
- Terrific BGM though the first 45 mins or so had some cheap synth sounds.
- Mindblowing performances - Each and every one, pooja being the best.
- Many witty dialogues are there and they worked very well.
- Could not understand some Sanskrit stuff.
- Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great. May be I need to watch it one more time, which I sure would.
- The climax certainly fell short of my expectations - more later.
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 2:58:56 2009.

steveaustin:

thanks for your points.
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:00:44 2009.

Bala promises one movie per year from now onwards. The next movie starts within 6 months. Is it really possible for him?
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:03:46 2009.

Nerd:

Where do you place nAn kadavuL in the list of his movies?
From: joe on Sun Feb 8 3:04:15 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great.

Nerd,
Don't you think ,it is more than what can be done under Tamil cinema curcumstances ?

Intha maathiri oru padam ivvaLavu effort pottu edukka ippothaikku Bala-vai vitta vera yaarala mudiyum?
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:06:01 2009.

Anban wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

global recognition vEnAm oru maNNum vEnAm.
evan kettaan... innum 80's songs-aye 8000 years ketkkalaam..

nAn kEttEn, but NK changed my mind. inimE kEtka pOrathilla

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:20:19 2009.

Yes, emotions are completely different. In parAsakthi, (if I am not wrong) the savior utters the word against God, not the victim and that too comes after he rescued the poor soul from misery. Here the victim is victimized, and his scolding comes against the almighty for the misery he has been going through. Very moving as you said. I think Bala has noticed closely and enough the life style of low level people in his life to come up with a such sequence.

From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 3:20:32 2009.

Judge, honestly I don't know and i can't think of a single director who has made at least 4 films without giving a dud (Even Mahendran has given quite a few). This man Bala is something

Joe, the censor cuts were annoying alright. I don't know how to explain but I still can't figure out what the film's main theme is. And as I said earlier, almost all the scenes were good just that they were not cohesive

Did anyone else find that sadhu (in kasi) who talks in broken tamizh bloody irritating

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:24:08 2009.

Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great.

Nerd,
Don't you think ,it is more than what can be done under Tamil cinema curcumstances ?

Intha maathiri oru padam ivvaLavu effort pottu edukka ippothaikku Bala-vai vitta vera yaarala mudiyum?

Yes, joe. intha aLavu padam edukkaRathE athuvum interesting-A audience-a pAkka vaikkiRathu romba kashtam intha subjectla. innum perfect-A eduththirunthA documentary mAthiri Ayirukkum. Bala has tried to fit the theme within the commercial setting to cater masses.

From: raja_fan on Sun Feb 8 3:24:12 2009.

The emotions of the old man in NK is taking privilege ( Urimai ) with his beloved God.

While that one in Parasakthi is making a hit on religious belief ( particularly these people will hit only Hindu beliefs ).

So both are vastly different !
From: joe on Sun Feb 8 3:27:15 2009.

Raja_fan,equ
Leave the parasakthi thingi..I didn't compare both and its concept ..Just mentioned it just to show that even before 56 years back there were bold dialogues.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:36:56 2009.

Judge, honestly I don't know and i can't think of a single director who has made at least 4 films without giving a dud (Even Mahendran has given quite a few). This man Bala is something Bow

For me, nandhA was little disppointment. I only realised the reason couple of months back when watching it on TV for the second time why it didn't appeal to me first time. The reason: background score. Though the score was decent, that script needed Raaja very badly. If he had done it, may be I would've enjoyed more. IMO, Bala is very much in need of Raaja for his scripts.

Did anyone else find that sadhu (in kasi) who talks in broken tamizh bloody irritating Hammer

konjam kashtamA thAn irunthathu..... but it is ok.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:42:21 2009.

enna innum 'rajasaranam'-a kANOm?
From: viraajan on Sun Feb 8 3:46:31 2009.

That old man's dialogue is still echoing in ears..
Andha madiri oru situation-la, manasu veruthu poi, kovathula oru manushan yenna pesuvano, adha appadiye, konjam kooda artificiala illama, thathroobama kaamichurukkaanga.

The silence (there was no BGM at this i guess. pls correct if i'm wrong) during that scene, the tone of the old man, and of course the dialogue too, everything was more than PERFECT!!!!!!
The whole theatre remained silent and came up with an applause!!!!
It did wet my eyes!!

Indha madiri, chinna chinna reality scenes padam muzhukka varudhu....

Kandippa padatha marubadiyum pAppEn...
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 3:46:59 2009.

raja_fan wrote:

The emotions of the old man in NK is taking privilege ( Urimai ) with his beloved God.

padam pAththuteengaLA?
From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 3:58:27 2009.

yet another scene where the small twins retort 'engala mattum enna thavuttukka vaangi vandhaanga' sirippu adanguvadharkku ullaye manasula vali aerpadthina scene
From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 4:08:16 2009.

steveaustin wrote:

Finally, it is not BALA's Naan kadavul. Here I can say that BALA himself is Naan Kadavul (as a creator).
From: jaaze on Sun Feb 8 4:38:28 2009.

Naan Kadavul 5 pm show filling up (local time 4.38 now)

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From: ThalaNass on Sun Feb 8 5:17:03 2009.

Watched it with lots of expectation, I should say it does not upto my expectations.. Films like Sethu/Pithamagan/PV/Subramaniapuram/Anjadhey are much better than this one!

Arya have done his part perfectly but he dunt have much scope in the movie compared to Pooja.. Pooja rocked in each and every scene.. especially in the climax..

But kudos to Bala for showing the 'world' that I tought never exist!!

Overall 3/5. Watchable ONCE!
From: njv on Sun Feb 8 6:33:20 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

directhit wrote:

njv, idhu eppo
njv wrote:

E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body
i think i missed it or not able to place it

me too..

Doubl Thumbsup icon work aagala. Enna koduma moderator idhu.
From: njv on Sun Feb 8 6:37:21 2009.

joe wrote:

Raja_fan,equ
Leave the parasakthi thingi..I didn't compare both and its concept ..Just mentioned it just to show that even before 56 years back there were bold dialogues.

That was the time of periyar, anna and MK all propagating anti brahmin/no god theme in TN, so never created any issues (or may be, I dont know).

Not its a different world. Padathukku Sandiyarnu vachchaa kooda sandiyar aayidaraanunga. Bala gave these folks big slap by delivering dialogues thru the kids.

Joe, but the way, I would rate this as the best Bala movie, cuz this has a good social message. his prev movie didnt have any msg.
From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Feb 8 6:37:41 2009.

njv wrote:

Doubl Thumbsup icon work aagala. Enna koduma moderator idhu
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From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 6:39:26 2009.

njv, idhu eppo Confused

E.g. Rudran fight with family to get dead body

i think i missed it or not able to place it

me too..

Doubl Thumbsup icon work aagala. Enna koduma moderator idhu.

that scene

From: njv on Sun Feb 8 6:48:38 2009.

Yesterday, I have experienced Naan Kadavul. ...

On the flip side, the climax scenes seems to be discontinuous because of Censors. Some of the Hindi / Sanskrit dialogues might have been subtitled in Tamil for the rural and some sections of urban audiences. Few scenes may be devoid of logic. But it can be forgiven for the hard work of BALA.

Your review is as good as the movie. Great.

I agree with u on the points about subtitle for some dialogues. The most important scene that missed the subtitle is what Arya says (dont want to reveal here) when he see the malayalee broker. With out understanding what arya says, no one would understand the reason why he suddenly start fighting with him. Thankfully I knew hindi and could manage. Thats very critical.

also the malayalee broker when he goes to pick up kids for the first time, he looks at a girl who just got married. The dialogue was delivered in Mayalalam, but really if one understand it, just that dialogue is equivalent to whole Mahanadhi movie.

Great movie. So far i cherished Pithamagan as the best movie when i refer it to my fellow western friends. Not its NK.

BTW this may not do well because such crualty may not exist or exposed in other states of India, but in Palani and most of TN, this is very obvious.

I still cant believe Bala came up with such a movie. Linking the concept of Aghoris to whats happeninng in Pazani. The movie itself could have taken in less than 6 months, but I believe bala was working strongly on each and every second of the movie to make it look good.

From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 6:50:35 2009.

also the malayalee broker when he goes to pick up kids for the first time, he looks at a girl who just got married. The dialogue was delivered in Mayalalam, but really if one understand it, just that dialogue is equivalent to whole Mahanadhi movie.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother??

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 10:27:39 2009.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother?? Confused

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

She can give birth to another (or more) uruppadi
Question: What made Arya's mom forget Arya? She says something like avan thirumba varamAttAn.. What exactly did AryA tell her in the scene before that?

From: Hulkster on Sun Feb 8 10:39:33 2009.

My review

The movie is basically about self-realization, about the harsh reality of whether GOD listens to all or in fact questioning the existence of GOD. It also ponders whether GOD is within us or are we looking for something else.

Aghori

For those who expected explanations or elaboration about the aghori sadhus they are bound to be disappointed but thats what happens when you start looking for previews by newspapers rather than understand the movie.

Rudran's character as a raw individual who bothers about nothing but about self realisation is supported by his appearance as a aghori. The aghoris are a backdrop like how Bharathiraja uses villages as a backdrop, they explain Rudran's character to move the story rather than turn into a separate act themselves. Actually the film would have been disoriented if the aghoris were brought more into furore, much like a documentary.

Theme

When you look scene by scene, its looks like a film made about beggars and their relationship with sorrow and happiness and their harsh reality but actually it is not. The beggars are used as a visual prop to question if there is a GOD listening to such people, The part where the "aasan" verbally pours his anger towards GOD by saying thevudiya payyan is the one which justifies this.

To put it across, It is Rudran (The liberator, the one who has realised himself) hearing the pain of these people and gives them death(mercy killing but in this film context, moksham) and at the same time establishes good over evil( the murder of the villain). The ending where Rudran reaches his guru is a indication that he has attained GODhood or enlightment which was justified in the early scenes when the guru asks him to return to him as his enlightment period is nearing.

The actual review

The film is really trendsetting, The direction of bala shows that a commercial style film showing heroism can be made in this way as well(there is a intro song for the hero, good vs evil, Hero depicted as the all-pervading,indestructible one) . The comedy comes within the flow which really deserves applauses. The integration of the dialogues and the characters as part of the story rather than overtake themselves is the one that puts Bala above the rest.

Arthur wilson has really captured the reality of a world we dunt want to see which makes it disturbing. His visuals make us feel the realism instead of thinking we are watching a movie.

Isaiyaraja has made unique use of percussions and synth to explain the emotions in the scenes when the family comes into terms with Rudran and when the villain enters the scene. The scene where the beggars are kidnapped by the buyer from kerala has haunting use of percussions as well. BGM is supposed to only explain scenes when they do not have adequate content to convince the viewers. It is of this understanding that makes IR truly the maestro.

Acting wise all of them have done enough to make the role integrate into the film. Arya did look like pithamagan but his harshness when he speaks and the emotions he shows when he speaks about GOD and self-realization are praiseworthy. Pooja makes the beggar styled makeup look a reality with her controlled modulations. The climax scene squeezes out your tears.

Remarks

I can understand the negative reviews as most go there being disillusioned by what they have read in the news and as such it blocks their insight when they watch the movie. For a movie which is made in such a way that its a story your seeing with the characters moving around instead of seeing standalone characters depicting the story is bound to induce confusion and disapproving remarks.

To watch this film is to have complete disregard for the scope of actors or how much they come in the film, you have to watch keeping in mind that your watching a story unfold before your eyes. That way it is easier to understand why the characters are like that and the film is in such a way.

If the censor board of TN are done away with, the film would be almost perfect, damn those lucky fellas who saw the whole film and then cut it to anger us.
From: Hulkster on Sun Feb 8 10:42:23 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Question: What made Arya's mom forget Arya? She says something like avan thirumba varamAttAn.. What exactly did AryA tell her in the scene before that?

He told her that he has separated himself from worldly ties and that he is in the process of being enlightened. Says that he is no more interested in the family ties.

From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 8 11:48:37 2009.

Watched Naan Kadavul this afternoon

A lot has been already said and not much to add from my side

My reaction is pretty much the same as those of Eq and Nerd.
I wasn't actually disappointed or had any mismatch w.r.t expectations.
The best made Bala movie till date and yet i don't quite get what the movie is ultimately about. Why "Naan Kadavul"?

Quote:

To put it across, It is Rudran (The liberator, the one who has realised himself) hearing the pain of these people and gives them death(mercy killing but in this film context, moksham) and at the same time establishes good over evil( the murder of the villain)

This seemed the obvious 'choice' but.... is that it?

Ilaiyaan: For me, BGM was absolutely brilliant in the first half (he hits the ground running) and very good/just about good in the 2st half. Kadaisi fight la isai yaanai kitterundhu innum edhirpaarthen Razz

to Bala for not using "Kannil Paarvai", especially considering the fact that he used quite a few old songs. Appadi use pannirundha modified/supporting BGM ellam edhukku?

For the first time, i found that the the acting was not disappointing in a Bala movie Thumbs Up!

The mimicry scenes were Laughing

Comedy enna na NT, Rajini and MGR are "in character" even in an utterly critical situation (after the 'performance') ROTFL

Nayanthara ROTFL2

As always, the trademark Bala humor Clap

Eq,
Neenga sonna madhiri, quite a few extremely powerful scenes.
Neenga PM la solliyirundheenga, Bala is one with tremendous artistic integrity -nu. adhai naan indru muzhumayaga unarndhen. yenna dhairiyam!

P.S: Endha scene(s) censor panniyirundhaanga?

From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 8 11:54:53 2009.

Down with the pseudo cool urbane crowd
PVR, Inox paruppunga tholla thaala mudiyala pa. padam arambikkarakku munnave smart-alecky comments thodangiyiruchu.
What did they expect to see in this movie, i don't know. Or are they trying to hide their "vulnerability"?
Bala "ups" his two middle fingers to this crowd

P.S: Elite and thara center crowds are irritating at different times in different ways

When i went to my seat a group of 3 were having a conversation like this:
P1: "Pattu irukka padathula?"
P2: "Paattu edho rendo edho irukku aana nalla irukkaadhu"
IT coolie dogs ku ithana lolaithanam, vethu scene
From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 8 12:03:18 2009.

And no "With The Grand Music Of Maestro" card this time

From: joe on Sun Feb 8 12:16:11 2009.

Comedy enna na NT, Rajini and MGR are "in character" even in an utterly critical situation (after the 'performance') ROTFL

The mimicry scenes were Laughing

After 'Kannai Nampaathe unnai yeematrum' song..

நடிகர் திலகம் அண்ணன் எம்.ஜி.ஆரிடம் " அண்ணே! எவ்வளவோ நல்ல கருத்தெல்லாம் சொன்னீங்க.. உங்களுக்கு ஓட்டு போட்டாங்களே தவிர அதை கேட்டு ஒரு பயலும் திருந்தல்லியே"

After "Oru kinnaithai yenthukiRen' song..

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் தம்பி நடிகர் திலகத்திடம் " தம்பி கணேசா ..உன்னோட நடிப்பையெல்லாம் சரியா சொல்லீக் கொடுக்காம போயிட்டியே ..இப்ப உள்ள நண்டு சிண்டு நடிகனெல்லாம் நடிப்புண்ணு பண்ணுற அலம்பல்.."

ROTFL

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 12:16:58 2009.

Om Siva OM was a brilliant number.

Bala could have simplified the connection between the Agori Rudran and the beggars and what his destiny is.

May be the continuity is lost coz of stupid censor board.

However the climax of the movie is superb!
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 12:21:08 2009.

@crajkumar_be

So called proffesunaals sathyamla vethu scene. THats why went to MELODY, all figures especially wont like this film.

Melody the response was superb. Especially the scene where Arya talks on what is God and the jokes by the handicaps were well received.

The climax was kind of blunt n on the face could have been shot in a much better way like that of pithamagan.

Nonetheless OM SIVA OM used at different places is the lifeline of the film brilliant composition and singing.
From: Vivasaayi on Sun Feb 8 12:21:37 2009.

anyone noticed the "kaduvulum kooda illadha thanaimai" words being picturised by bala.

jeyamohan mentioned it in the interview.

From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 12:38:04 2009.

Comedy enna na NT, Rajini and MGR are "in character" even in an utterly critical situation (after the 'performance') ROTFL

The mimicry scenes were Laughing

The highlight was MGR dude saying, ivaru dhaan enga modhalaaLi with the MGR accent/action in the end of the scene

The ambani comment was hilarious too. naangaLLAm pichakkaaranga, ivaru periya ambAni,
yaarudA Ambani?
cellphone kadai modhalaali

Actually I was mighty impressed with the NRI crowd. Couple of my friends have brought their wives too. The crowd did make the occasional sh*ts, tsks/pchs etc, but it was just that. And they were very appreciative of Raja's meesic and the only scene that got an applause (there were only 60 odd people in the theater) was the the****** magan scene.

kadavuLum kooda illAdha thanimai note panna mudila, but there is a shot in Om SivOham song where he veRichifies vaanam, but people around him will be busy doing something else. may be its that

From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 12:41:35 2009.

And the main villain quotes GM in one scene

kouNdamaNi oru padathula sollRa maadhiri, kOzhi kurudA irundhAlum kolambu rusiyA irundhA pOdhum
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 12:42:28 2009.

Roshan i am a non Raja and non Arr fan.

really IR's BGM is terrific. After Thalapathi and Nayagan i see IR's verithanamaana work.

Om Siva Om bit played at the climax was deadly!

May be the film was a very complex one for me to understand and might require 2nd viewing to clear doubts
From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 8 12:56:04 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

really IR's BGM is terrific.

A_A,
Meengal nalla neendhum nu solra madhiri idhu

BGM na adhu Raaja dhaan. Any day of any calendar week/month/year. Matter over

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 13:00:07 2009.

really IR's BGM is terrific.

A_A,
Meengal nalla neendhum nu solra madhiri idhu Razz

BGM na adhu Raaja dhaan. Any day of any calendar week/month/year. Matter over

Yuvan BGM kooda supera irukum

From: Movie Cop on Sun Feb 8 13:08:27 2009.

PVR, Inox paruppunga tholla thaala mudiyala pa. padam arambikkarakku munnave smart-alecky comments thodangiyiruchu.
What did they expect to see in this movie, i don't know. Or are they trying to hide their "vulnerability"?
Bala "ups" his two middle fingers to this crowd Cool

Down with the pseudo cool urbane crowd Evil or Very Mad

P.S: Elite and thara center crowds are irritating at different times in different ways

When i went to my seat a group of 3 were having a conversation like this:
P1: "Pattu irukka padathula?"
P2: "Paattu edho rendo edho irukku aana nalla irukkaadhu"
Banging Head

IT coolie dogs ku ithana lolaithanam, vethu scene

<Dig> Haven't seen NK yet but had a similar experience while watching VA! There are lots of "smart a$$ vettiyans" who enter the theatre with those annoying comments spoiling others concentration... Me and my friend almost ended up blasting the folks who sat behing our row during VA! Without understanding the "context" of the movie or understanding the tone of characterization, silla vettiyans theatre-la remba mokkai comments poduranunge... If these folks have "baed" comprehensive/apprehensive skills why go for such movies in the first place...

From: MumbaiRamki on Sun Feb 8 13:19:19 2009.

saw the pitchai paathiram song -> this itself jolted me and i was dumbstuck !!!

Hope the whole movie maintains this glue !
From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 13:32:32 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

And no "With The Grand Music Of Maestro" card this time

Yeah, he had just 'Maestro Ilayaraaja' this time.

From: irir123 on Sun Feb 8 13:55:12 2009.

Movie Cop wrote:

IT coolie dogs ku ithana lolaithanam, vethu scene

Down with the pseudo cool urbane crowd Evil or Very Mad

what is VA ??

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:03:45 2009.

njv:

Here in India the scene you were talking about Rudran fighting for a dead body in the opening scenes wasn't showed. Can you please let me know where exactly it comes and what happens (if not here atleast in PM)? Thanks.
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:03:47 2009.

PICHAI PAATHIRAM VIDEO SONG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvxFhDbCa0

OM SIVA OM VIDEO SONG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOyxDtlzU4

Intro songsliye, spiritual songsliye Om SIva Om madiri oru vibrating voice n music ketadhe ila. Lyrics puriyala but powerful iruku.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:07:08 2009.

Question: What made Arya's mom forget Arya? She says something like avan thirumba varamAttAn.. What exactly did AryA tell her in the scene before that?

He told her that he has separated himself from worldly ties and that he is in the process of being enlightened. Says that he is no more interested in the family ties.

'inimE avan ingE varamAttAn....avan oru suyumbu' appadinnu kEttathA nyabagam.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:10:05 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

Yuvan BGM kooda supera irukum

nichchayamA Raaja aLavukku deep-A irukkAthu. If you don't believe me, just watch Sethu/Pithamgan and nandhA, you can see the difference. His scores are not a match for Bala's themes. Raaja is the only choice.

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:11:11 2009.

nichchayamA Raaja aLavukku deep-A irukkAthu. If you don't believe me, just watch Sethu/Pithamgan and nandhA, you can see the difference. His scores are not a match for Bala's themes. Raaja is the only choice.

Yuvan BGM kooda supera irukum Twisted Evil

Judge adhu ellam subjectku etha madhiri, who can forget PUDUPETTAI's DARK AND DEADLY BGM!?!?!?

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:14:54 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

Judge adhu ellam subjectku etha madhiri, who can forget PUDUPETTAI's DARK AND DEADLY BGM!?!?!?

Yuvan's scores are good.....I am not denying it but Bala's themes & Raja's scores go hand-in-hand. nandhA's score made me thinking that way. puthupEttai's score was good and I liked it.

From: Nerd on Sun Feb 8 14:17:12 2009.

njv:

Here in India the scene you were talking about Rudran fighting for a dead body in the opening scenes wasn't showed. Can you please let me know where exactly it comes and what happens (if not here atleast in PM)? Thanks.

I dint see such a scene in the US either. May be it was part of the Om sivOham song

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:17:52 2009.

But IR's BGM for this movie's action scenes took me back to his Thalapathi Nayagan days!

Was superb na? Especially during that Malayalee Arya Fight Wow

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:23:11 2009.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:28:10 2009.

I dint see such a scene in the US either. May be it was part of the Om sivOham song Confused

Oh.... is it?

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:25:58 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

But IR's BGM for this movie's action scenes took me back to his Thalapathi Nayagan days!

Was superb na? Especially during that Malayalee Arya Fight Wow

Yes, Raaja took so much time for NK's score, I think he too liked the movie very much. If we watch it without the score, I am not sure how it will be. It will be like a documentary?
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:26:07 2009.

Yes its a part of Om Siva Om song.

He will hit few people during the song.

In trailer his guru will wake him up and say "Rudran, Naash Karo Dushton Ko" that did not come in movie at all.
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:28:00 2009.

Damn on censor boards. They cut some scenes towards the climax i guess.

They let girls dance and allow vulgar lyrics.

But they have cut arya's dialogues in court, Judge asks him what u did to the malayalee, arya says "Saptiten" (i've eaten him).

That scene also has been cut i guess coz of cannibalism.

What does arya say when he sees the villian and the malayalee, some dushton nigra something can anyone explain why he attacks them?

Yes its a part of Om Siva Om song.

He will hit few people during the song.

In trailer his guru will wake him up and say "Rudran, Naash Karo Dushton Ko" that did not come in movie at all.

Yes, but the fight was never for a dead body.
I should watch it again.

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:30:07 2009.

Yes, athak kooda solla vidala pAvi pasanga.

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 14:31:10 2009.

Judge u have any idea what Arya says upon seeing the malayalee and the villian.

Why does he attack them? I can;t understand the reason

From: Mahen on Sun Feb 8 14:35:40 2009.

Damn on censor boards. They cut some scenes towards the climax i guess.

They let girls dance and allow vulgar lyrics.

But they have cut arya's dialogues in court, Judge asks him what u did to the malayalee, arya says "Saptiten" (i've eaten him).

That scene also has been cut i guess coz of cannibalism.

What does arya say when he sees the villian and the malayalee, some dushton nigra something can anyone explain why he attacks them?

Btw, what arya did to the villains??

IT was censored here i guess

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:40:13 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

Judge u have any idea what Arya says upon seeing the malayalee and the villian.

Why does he attack them? I can;t understand the reason

I don't know hindi/sanskrit.... so no idea. But the priest in Kasi explains to his dad that Agoris will identify the evil force by consciousness. That might be the reason he attacks them.

From: Anban on Sun Feb 8 14:41:08 2009.

From: Mahen on Sun Feb 8 15:01:47 2009.

i also read in a review that there is a scene in which Arya eats a body, hiding behind the bushes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOyxDtlzU4

at the very end of this clip, rudran is seen waiting for the "meal to be cooked.."

From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 8 14:44:07 2009.

Mahen wrote:

Btw, what arya did to the villains?? IT was censored here i guess

The malayalee guy was taken to the bush after he was dead but nothing showed after that. I think he ate his flesh and that was what he says in the court but the dialogue was muted. Thandavam was killed and he was lying on top of a rock.

The malayalee guy was taken to the bush after he was dead but nothing showed after that. I think he ate his flesh and that was what he says in the court but the dialogue was muted. Thandavam was killed and he was lying on top of a rock.

Btw, what arya did to the villains?? Embarassed

IT was censored here i guess Smile

Thanks judge...Here it is the same too..I thought you guys have seen additional stuffs

From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 8 15:02:15 2009.

Here(Toronto) also, they didn't show. The censor cuts definitely affects the flow of the movie.... Cut panna versione intha alavukku disturbing iruke...Directors version partha eppadi irukkum....

From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 8 15:02:48 2009.

really IR's BGM is terrific.

A_A,
Meengal nalla neendhum nu solra madhiri idhu Razz

BGM na adhu Raaja dhaan. Any day of any calendar week/month/year. Matter over

Yuvan BGM kooda supera irukum Twisted Evil

Pulikku piranthathu poonai aguma???

From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 8 15:09:43 2009.

Judge u have any idea what Arya says upon seeing the malayalee and the villian.

Why does he attack them? I can;t understand the reason

I don't know hindi/sanskrit.... so no idea. But the priest in Kasi explains to his dad that Agoris will identify the evil force by consciousness. That might be the reason he attacks them.

I think definitely this is the reason..... When I saw the movie, I thought the same....

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 15:15:24 2009.

Vasanth if you read NJV's post here he says he can understand what arya says when he sees the malayalee and the villian and if you understand that you would also understand why he kills them.

Can NJV please explain that to us
From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 8 15:18:06 2009.

My favorite scene is Rudran's attack on malayalee.....That is apt scene......
Goosebumps...... I really enjoyed that scene... probably it is better scene than climax fight....
From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 8 15:25:56 2009.

I knew Bala is a good director.... But I thought Bala is a overrated director....

I feel I was wrong.... After seeing NK, I am realising his direction skills.... Definitely he is thinking out of the box.... I respect him....

I am sure the popcorn crowd will critisize this movie.... Even they can not understand this people's life...... but this movie shows exactly about their life....

And If you expect more of aghoris concept, then you will disappoint.... because this movie is not completely based on aghoris...

After seeing PV, I couldn't see that movie second time.... But I am eager to see this movie second time......
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 8 15:37:05 2009.

vasanth2006 wrote:

I

And If you expect more of aghoris concept, then you will disappoint.... because this movie is not completely based on aghoris...

Yess coz of the promo is expected more on aghoris and arya being one among those aggressive aghoris but the focus shifted heavily on beggars which went against many's expectations.

Its not the magnitude of the expectation, but misdirected one coz of the promos
From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 8 15:49:39 2009.

characters ellam kan munnadiye nikkaranga
i think this is one of the boldest, gutsiest and most honest films ever made in tamil in the lines of andha naal, aval appadithaan, guna, mahanadhi and hey ram. in fact it may not be the best among them (far from it) but i think its the most courageous.

From: bimmer on Sun Feb 8 17:48:25 2009.

vasanth2006 wrote:

I knew Bala is a good director.... But I thought Bala is a overrated director....
I feel I was wrong.... After seeing NK, I am realising his direction skills.... Definitely he is thinking out of the box.... I respect him....

I am sure the popcorn crowd will critisize this movie.... Even they can not understand this people's life...... but this movie shows exactly about their life....

And If you expect more of aghoris concept, then you will disappoint.... because this movie is not completely based on aghoris...

After seeing PV, I couldn't see that movie second time.... But I am eager to see this movie second time......

He is any day a Overrated Director...

From: bimmer on Sun Feb 8 17:55:42 2009.

Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great.

Nerd,
Don't you think ,it is more than what can be done under Tamil cinema curcumstances ?

Intha maathiri oru padam ivvaLavu effort pottu edukka ippothaikku Bala-vai vitta vera yaarala mudiyum?

Ippidi usupethiye odamba ranakalam akarangale... Laughing

From: irir123 on Sun Feb 8 20:33:18 2009.

pant! gasp! am just back from watching NK - give me some time to catch my breath please - will get back with my review

From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 21:01:41 2009.

Question: What made Arya's mom forget Arya? She says something like avan thirumba varamAttAn.. What exactly did AryA tell her in the scene before that?

He told her that he has separated himself from worldly ties and that he is in the process of being enlightened. Says that he is no more interested in the family ties.

'inimE avan ingE varamAttAn....avan oru suyumbu' appadinnu kEttathA nyabagam.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu

From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 21:03:41 2009.

nope - njv said something abt Arya asking his family for dead body. His dad already explains to his mom what he was doing in kasi - that he was eating dead bodies etc (idiot censors muted that

I dint see such a scene in the US either. May be it was part of the Om sivOham song Confused

). so not sure where he asks em for a dead body - only possibility is when he talks to his mom. but rite after that she is angry and says to his sister that 'he is a suyambu'

what does that mean

From: directhit on Sun Feb 8 21:11:22 2009.

My wife had an interesting viewpoint. MGR/Sivaji/Rajini vesham pottu konja peru pizhachukkura madhiri kadavul vesham pottu (the beggars in hanuman/murugan veshams) konjam peru pizhachukkaraanga. Although jus like how the actors do not (and cannot) take responsibility on these ppl, god also does not take responsibility or show mercy on the beggars (not coz of them putting vesham). Maybe thts why that comedy track was in the movie.

Damn, the censor guys shud be censored!!

From: joe on Sun Feb 8 21:26:56 2009.

characters ellam kan munnadiye nikkaranga Sad

i think this is one of the boldest, gutsiest and most honest films ever made in tamil in the lines of andha naal, aval appadithaan, guna, mahanadhi and hey ram. in fact it may not be the best among them (far from it) but i think its the most courageous.

Ithai thaan naan yerkanave sonnen

From: joe on Sun Feb 8 22:07:26 2009.

Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great.

Nerd,
Don't you think ,it is more than what can be done under Tamil cinema curcumstances ?

Intha maathiri oru padam ivvaLavu effort pottu edukka ippothaikku Bala-vai vitta vera yaarala mudiyum?

Ippidi usupethiye odamba ranakalam akarangale... Laughing

Summa vasanam pesuRathukku pathila ennoda keLvi-kku straight-a pathil sollunga paarpom

From: bimmer on Sun Feb 8 22:35:25 2009.

Though 98% of the scenes were good, I felt the movie as a complete package was not *that* great.

Nerd,
Don't you think ,it is more than what can be done under Tamil cinema curcumstances ?

Intha maathiri oru padam ivvaLavu effort pottu edukka ippothaikku Bala-vai vitta vera yaarala mudiyum?

Ippidi usupethiye odamba ranakalam akarangale... Laughing

Summa vasanam pesuRathukku pathila ennoda keLvi-kku straight-a pathil sollunga paarpom Huh?!

Joe...

Padathuku 3 varusham anadhu...Pala prachanaigalal..Sacking Ajith, Bhavana. and finally Thenappan..Zee entertainment..etc..etc..etc.

I donot know what is your Point..Intha mathiri Oru padathukku

Ivar enna effort potarnu..Again Opinions differ...

To me Naan Kadavul is a mediocre documentary, with Pot smoking sadhu's..There are lot of flaws in the Movie

1. What happens to Rudhran after he is bought back from him..Instead the story focusses on The beggers again...

2. The Court scene...Rudhran and Policeman

3. Wafer thing Ameturish Plot and Disjoint storyline

4. The movie is Untolerably brutal...which was Not necessary...

The entire Crew did justice to the Role,

Raja, Pooja, Arya, Thandavam...

Again Opinions differ and to me it is a Forgettable, and to your point there are a lot of Perfectionist and Good directors in TFI...and Unfortunately to Me Bala is not 'ANYWHERE' in my list.

From: joe on Sun Feb 8 22:45:40 2009.

Bimmer,
IMO ,I can understand why 3 years has been taken ,well justified with extrodinary visuals ,which are almost unimaginable by most of the Tamil directors.

I don't want to go into details on changing cast and i don't mind also ..As a fan ,I damn care about it ,i care about only the final product.

As you said ,let us agree to disagree..For me ,Bala is someone extradionary.
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sun Feb 8 23:06:07 2009.

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From: joe on Sun Feb 8 23:09:25 2009.

Sakala,
yen intha kolai veRi ?

Ippa thaan oru suththu mudinjirukku ..maRupadiyumaa?
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Sun Feb 8 23:13:29 2009.

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From: joe on Sun Feb 8 23:15:06 2009.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

naan padame paarkavillai, athu en karuthum illai so contact luckylook!!.

KiLinjuthu poo

Konjam pazhaya pakkangaLaiyum padichittu varrathu

From: bimmer on Sun Feb 8 23:22:36 2009.

Bimmer,
IMO ,I can understand why 3 years has been taken ,well justified with extrodinary visuals ,which are almost unimaginable by most of the Tamil directors.

I don't want to go into details on changing cast and i don't mind also ..As a fan ,I damn care about it ,i care about only the final product.

As you said ,let us agree to disagree..For me ,Bala is someone extradionary.

greed Joe..May be NK Is not for me..Glad you enjoyed the Movie..I was Just too diturbed with NK

From: irir123 on Sun Feb 8 23:32:27 2009.

An attempt at a non-linear review of a movie with a nonlinear storyline (I suspect the Censor board scissors had a big hand in the non-linearity)

Is Nan Kadavul, just a dark movie showing the plight of beggars in Tamil Nadu whose fate is more often than not in the hands of mafia-like thugs and gangs ? Or is it a movie that tries to explore the god-like judgmental ability in us to distinguish between good and evil and render our judgment a.k.a., a larger-than-life superhero, albeit in the guise of a recluse? is it simply an extremely offbeat idea attempted by a director (Bala) to push his own creative limits?

I think it is a bit of all of the above. Rife with (Charles) Dickensian social commentary-style picturisation and characterization of the beggars who throng our temples, never again will someone who chanced upon watching the film, would dare look at another beggar with the nonchalance we usually reserve for used footwear! Such is the starkly realistic, dark portrayal done with such conviction, that a physically deformed kid beggar, almost becomes the leitmotif protagonist Dickensian �Oliver Twist� of Tamil Nadu, sneering, jeering, laughing, gesticulatingly mocking at the �bad� guys, that includes you, me and us, the uncaring, self-indulgent but �God� fearing lot! Unlike the Twist of Dickens, this Twist probably had his innocence smothered into non-existence from the time of his birth with his tender hands holding aloft the �bitchai paathhiram� � look farther and you will see the �lump-in-your-throat� sorrow behind the child-like laugh and this unequal child living with the illusory hope of being on his own someday!

Perhaps its that same specific �God�, whom one of the beggars curses with an unprintable word � given that, the widely accepted notions of God perceive the supernatural being as being nameless, formless and perhaps even �homeless� like the beggars, am sure God wouldn�t mind being cursed by the lowliest of the lowly who has just lost his one of his near and dear to another of his creation � after all, if �ezhaiyyin sirrippil iraivanai kaana mudiyum� yendraal, am sure that �a destitute pichaikkaaranin kadharalil kooda iravanai kaana mudiyum� ! Is that what Bala trying to tell us? Maybe! The movie has a distinct flavor that�s a cross between Dickensian tragic overtones and our very own home-grown Jeyakanthan�s abject �slap-on-the-face� questioning of theism!

Kasi! Isn�t that a place that tourism departments all over the world romantically endorse, calling it the capital of mystical India?? Through Bala�s and Arthur Wilson�s prism, Kasi gets scorched onscreen � the smell of burning flesh almost reaches out from the screen, embracing and filling us with a sense of the dreadful as much as the sadhus in a trance send us on momentary trips to ganja-filled reverie.

Is the bad guy Thandavam maiming the blind beggar girl overdone?? Unlike Dickens� Fagin who trains his orphan boys in thievery, Thandavam is a more thoroughbred �desi� professional, who in a cruelly ironical fashion actually holds a lot of prestige and respect, even as he makes a living out of peddling the helpless lot of maimed, deformed children! His maiming act fits his character depiction and compared to him, Dickens' Fagin is a saint!

Perhaps where the movie fails is in the long-drawn singing sequences of the beggar characters, and some of the slightly unconvincing performance scenes of Pooja.

Bala deserves a big ovation for his bold attempt and outstanding accomplishment of bringing out such riveting performances from real-life beggars and actually manages to keep the audiences glued to the seats with the same!! This becomes all the more significant that he has managed to do that in an industry that spawns a new star every other film, each of whom demand a formulaic 5 song, 5 fight, storyline!

And finally the �Maestro� stroke: being such a passionate afficianado of someone whose music literally splattered lives (such as mine) with memorable moments of unbridled joy, since childhood, it would be natural if I sound biased!

But then, when a certain Sachin Tendulkar is in form and is playing the bowling of the likes of one certain Henry Olonga, wouldn�t one expect to see something spectacular??

Kasi, Sadhus, Aghoris, Malaikoyil, God, Rudran, burning pyres, beggars, mafia � IR must have been jumping in glee when Bala narrated the story � and oh boy, how does he deliver ?! deliver he does, spraying the screen with the coruscating brilliance of a Van Gogh�s brush �baton� strokes � the opening title bhajan grabs our attention like a gasp inducing roller-coast ride and no stopping that then on � the Maestro does pause, to let us laugh at the well-deservedly spun-out wisecracks of the beggar lot, but when he does take charge, the entire movie bows to his genius!

Note: this is no Hey Ram (a period movie with multiple parts of screenplays), and no Mahanadi (with brilliant movement of the script and the pathos descending like a pall of gloom, unsuspectingly but gradually on the principal characters). Therefore, IR does not linger upon specific characters to develop specific themes (like the Aparna theme in Hey Ram or the exotic string-based theme for the Kamal-Suganya relationship in Mahanadi). Instead, IR goes for the jugular, a la, a 2009 rendition of another BGM masterpiece from the 1990s, �Guna�.

This is the handiwork of a master, who knows exactly what he is doing, a genre-specific score, for a movie, with such a blindingly specific genre!! A score filled with wails of the flute, cries of the violins/strings, the percussion thrusting out the anger of Rudran � there is even a tremolo motif in a scene showing Pooja pleading with the Mangadu saamiyar and the camera shifts to Arya from a top-angle shot � IR usually reserves the tremolo effect for haunting preludes (as in Sundari from Thalapathy or Malaiyil from Chatriyan), but here he uses it for giving us a sense of anticipation! That�s just one of the many things, I could immediately recall!

Maestro, take a bow!! We are with you!! And we eagerly await your score for Nandhalala!!

Bala, take a bow!! What a gutsy step for a film-maker ?! Just two simple requests: make sure you release an unedited version of NK on DVD and next time around, ensure that your efforts and vision don�t get compromised in the hands of the censor board.

For all other filmmakers, its time to pack up formulaic nonsense and spare the Tamil audiences from their oft-repeated garbage � spare some thought for the efforts of people like Bala, Mysskin, Kamal et al., and do not take us and our collective intelligence for granted with inane stuff again.

For those who trash the movie, spare Bala�s efforts, a thought � and if you cannot, let us all then be happy with the �dandanakka� movies Tamil cinema keeps churning out with undying perseverance!

From: kamalsurya on Mon Feb 9 0:15:46 2009.

Quote:

Just two simple requests: make sure you release an unedited version of NK on DVD and next time around, ensure that your efforts and vision don�t get compromised in the hands of the censor board.

Yes!! Would def wanna watch the uncenorsed version..Damn the censor board...Chopping off scenes making a chaos, wonder how bala agreed to all those cutting offs

From: villan007 on Mon Feb 9 1:04:58 2009.

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From: joe on Mon Feb 9 1:21:11 2009.

பாலாவின் படைப்புலகம்
http://aatrangaraininaivugal.blogspot.com/2009/02/1.html
From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 1:21:55 2009.

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From: Nerd on Mon Feb 9 1:25:46 2009.

directhit wrote:

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu

naan inga dhAn dochu theater, onniyumE puriyalai-nu nenachEn.. Arya vaaice was not clear in many places.. akkam pakkathula kEttu purinjikittEn, but that dialogue eluded us.

suyambu - self formed. As in, he knows everything, he does not need any guidance esra..
From: joe on Mon Feb 9 1:28:03 2009.

Request to All..
when you provide third party links ,pls avoid quoting provocative lines which is irrelvant to the topic.

Spare this thread from ARR Vs IR fight and talk about this outstanding movie ,which is rare in Tamil.
From: Roshan on Mon Feb 9 1:45:53 2009.

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From: Roshan on Mon Feb 9 1:48:03 2009.

Thanks

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:15:48 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

naan inga dhAn dochu theater, onniyumE puriyalai-nu nenachEn.. Arya vaaice was not clear in many places.. akkam pakkathula kEttu purinjikittEn, but that dialogue eluded us.

suyambu - self formed. As in, he knows everything, he does not need any guidance esra..

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 9 3:15:54 2009.

censor board-kku mEla inga hub-la cut vizhuthu

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 3:21:15 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

எனக்கும் 'சுயம்பு'-ன்னு கேட்டதாகத் தான் ஞாபகம்.

btw, தொம்மை -ன்னா கையாலாகாதவன் -ன்னு அர்த்தம்

From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 9 3:24:41 2009.

bimmer;

There are lot of flaws in the movie and there are lot of questions we can ask about the character Rudran. Agreed, but the main plot is about the beggars, I don't think I could find a flaw in their part, could you? let me know.

From: equanimus on Mon Feb 9 3:27:14 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

'thUmai' means menstrual blood.

[Not sure if one can mention such things here in this forum, but arththam theriyAmal kuRippiduvadhaRku, viLakki viduvadhu mEl enRu thOnRiyadhu.]

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:28:50 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

எனக்கும் 'சுயம்பு'-ன்னு கேட்டதாகத் தான் ஞாபகம்.

btw, தொம்மை -ன்னா கையாலாகாதவன் -ன்னு அர்த்தம் Rolling Eyes

No, his mom tells his sister that he is a svayambu but im referring to the conversation between Arya and his mother.

P.S: Adhukulla enakku kaadhu javvu vittukucha?

Edhukkum innoru thadava padatha pakkarappa gavanichukkaren

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:35:32 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

'thUmai' means menstrual blood.

[Not sure if one can mention such things here in this forum, but arththam theriyAmal kuRippiduvadhaRku, viLakki viduvadhu mEl enRu thOnRiyadhu.]

Eq,
I heard Arya say that twice. In fact, even as i was wondering if i heard it correctly, i heard the person next to me explaining/repeating the line to his friend (who also seemed to think he was not sure of what he heard)

From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 9 3:36:32 2009.

'thUmai' means menstrual blood.

[Not sure if one can mention such things here in this forum, but arththam theriyAmal kuRippiduvadhaRku, viLakki viduvadhu mEl enRu thOnRiyadhu.]

padaththula ennakku kEtta mAthiri nyabgam illa. AnA inga forum-la kEtta udanE arththam purinthum pEsa irunthA nallathu vittutEn. But after you mentioned it won't they say it colloquially like 'thUmi'?

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:39:11 2009.

Eq,
Please check PM
From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 3:43:55 2009.

I heard the dialogue very clearly. But dint know the meaning

But the moment Arya says it, her expression changes and she leaves immediately
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:44:45 2009.

viraajan wrote:

I heard the dialogue very clearly. But dint know the meaning

But the moment Arya says it, her expression changes and she leaves immediately

Same here but what exactly did you hear?

From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 3:46:05 2009.

Same here but what exactly did you hear?

I heard the dialogue very clearly. But dint know the meaning Embarassed

But the moment Arya says it, her expression changes and she leaves immediately Shocked

He says that she is a "ThU Ma"

Its a filthy word i know. But don't know the exact meaning.

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 3:47:14 2009.

Thank Heavens. For a moment or three i was afraid my hearing was deserting me at this ripe young age!

Still, i don't understand the exact meaning of the conversation
From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 3:48:13 2009.
From: joe on Mon Feb 9 3:50:39 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Thank Heavens. For a moment or three i was afraid my hearing was deserting me at this ripe young age!

Don't worry ..Antha idathula olippathivu konjam clear-a illai .sariya kekkalai

Quote:

Still, i don't understand the exact meaning of the conversation

Me too

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 3:53:23 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

thts wht i heard too - adhukku munnadi edho sanskrit la vera sonnan

padatha 2 vaati paartha equa equa equa!! expln pls

From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 3:54:36 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

enna innum 'rajasaranam'-a kANOm?
தினம் ஒரு முறை என்கிற கணக்கில் முன்று முறை பார்த்தாகி விட்டது! ஓவ்வொரு முறையும் பிரமிப்பு கூட தான் செய்கிறதே தவிர இன்னும் குறையவில்லை. விமர்சணங்களுக்கு அப்பாற்பட்டது இந்த 'திரைப்படம்' நம் கண் முன்னே விரித்திருக்கும் ஒதுக்கபட்டவர்களின் 'வாழ்வு'. முதல் முறை பார்த்த பொழுது ஏதோ குறை இருபது போல் தோன்றிய்து, பின் மெல்ல மனதில் அசை போட்டு பார்த்ததில் இந்த ஊடகங்கள் நம் மனதில் 'பிரிகன்ஸ்ட்ரக்ட்' செய்து வைத்த படத்தை எதிர் பார்த்து சென்றது நம் தவறு என்பது புரிந்தது. அப்படி'ருத்ரனின்' படத்தை எதிர்பார்த்து வந்தவர்களை 'டிகன்ஸ்ட்ரக்ட்' செய்து வெளி தள்ளுகிரார் 'பாலா'.

சமூகத்தின் விளிம்புகளில் வாழ்வின் ஒவ்வொரு கணமும் நரகமாய் இருக்க, அந்த வாழ்வின் வேதனையை, அந்த வாழ்வின் குரூரத்தை, அந்த வாழ்வின் அவலத்தை, அதன் ஊடுபாவாய் இழையோடும் மய்ய மக்களின் மீதான எள்ளலை, ஆங்காரமாய் நம் மீது கட்டவீழ்த்து விடுகிறார். ஒரு வேட்டை நாயின் கோபத்தோடு திரையில் உலவும் மனிதர்கள் நம் மனசாட்சியை கடித்து குதறுகிறார்கள். இதில் ருத்ரனும் நம்மை போல் ஒரு பார்வையாளன். சமுக கட்டுகளில் இருந்த தன்னை விடுவித்து கொண்டவன். அவன் தான்
'சத்யப்ரபாவ திவ்யப்ரகாஷ மந்த்ர ஸ்வரூப மாத்ரம்
நிஷ்ப்ரபஞ்சாதி நிஷகலந்கோஹம் நிஜபூர்ன போதஹம்நம்
நத்யகாத்மஹம் நித்யப்ரமோஹம் ஸ்வப்னகஸோகம்ஹம்நம்
சட்சித்ப்ரமானம்
மூலப்ரமேயம்
அயம் ப்ரம்மாஸ்மி
அஹம் ப்ரம்மாஸ்மி'
என்று உனர்ந்தவன். கருனை வடிவானவன். அவன் கருனை பிறவி சுழல் அறுக்கும் வல்லது. அவன் அமசவல்லியின் அவலத்தை கண்டு ஒரு 'ஹிரோ' போல் அதற்க்கு தீர்வு அளிக்காமல் ஒரு 'கடவுள்' போல் ' நிஷ்சலனாய், துஷ்ட்ட நிக்ரகஹனாய்' சப்த லோக சௌரக்ஷனாய்' தீர்வு அளிக்கிறான். நமக்கு அந்த தீர்வில் முரன்பாடுகள் இருக்கலாம் ஆனால் குறைந்த பச்சம் நாம் 'ஹீரோ'வாக நம் வாழ்கையை அமைத்து கொண்டிருந்தால் இந்த 'கடவுளருக்கு' தேவை இருந்திருக்காது. மக்களுக்குள் இருக்கும் 'ஹீரோ'க்களை இந்த படம் கொஞ்சமாவது உசுப்பி விடுமானால் படம் தனது நோக்கில் வெற்றி அடைந்ததாக சந்தோஷ பட வேன்டும்.

ஒரு திரைபடம் என்ற வகையில் 'பாலா' தனது முந்தைய படங்களை மீறி செல்கிறார் ' நான் கடவுளி'ல். ஒரு கலைஞனாய் மற்றெவரும் தொட முடியாத உச்சங்களில் தமிழ் சினிமாவை கொண்டு வைக்கிறார். கடந்த 75 ஆன்டு வரலாறும் இது போல் ஒரு கலைஞனை கண்டெடுக்க தான் தவம் இருந்து போலும். காட்டாற்று வெள்ளம் போல் தளை தகர்த்து முன்னெறி கொன்டிருக்கும் அவரிடம் மற்ற எல்லா இயக்குனர்களும் பாடம் படிக்க வேண்டும். ராஜா'வும், வில்சனும், ஜெய்மோகனும், நடிகர்களும், மற்றெல்லா கலைஞர்களும் இந்த ஒற்றை மனிதனின் மனதில் இருக்கும் ஒரு திரைபடத்தை கண்டடையும் நோக்கில் அவன் பின்னே கண்னனின் குழலுக்கு மயங்கிய மந்தையாய் தொடர்கிறார்கள். இப்படி எல்லோரையும் தனது திரைபடம் என்ற இலக்கை நோக்கி திருப்பிருக்கிறார் என்றால் 'பாலா'வின் அளுமை நம்மால் நினைத்து கூட பார்க்க முடியாத ஒன்றாய் இருக்கிறது.

ராஜாவும், வில்சனும் இதில் அவருக்கு மிக பெரிய பலம். வில்சனுக்கு கூட 'பாலா' தனது 'ஸ்க்ரிப்ட்' மூலமாக பல காட்சிகளை விளக்கி இருப்பார் ஆனால் என்ன மாதிரி இசை வேண்டும் என்பதை எப்படி விளக்கி இருப்பார்? அப்படி சுலபமாய் விளக்கி விடவும் முடியாது, ஏனெனில் இசை சூக்குமமானது. அவர் தனக்கு தேவைபட்ட உணர்வோட்டங்களை கூறி விளக்க, அதை ராஜா இசை மொழியாய் வடிதிருக்கும் அழகு இருக்கிறதே...சொல்லில் அடங்காது. குறிப்பாய் இடைவேளை முன் ருத்ரன் மந்த்ர உச்சாடனங்களோடு தன்னை 'அஹம் பிரம்மாஸ்மி' என அறிமுக படுத்திகொள்ளும் அந்த வேளையில் எதோ நாமே கடவுளாக மாறி விட்ட ஒர் உணர்வு தரும் இசை கோர்வை...சில்லிட வைக்கிறது. இன்னும் பல காட்சிகளில் இது போல் தன் இசை அளுமையை வெளிப்படுத்தினாலும் எங்கும் திரைப்படத்தை மீற முயலவில்லை. விருதுகள் இனி இவருக்கு வழங்குவதில் அர்த்தம் இல்லை. இசைக்கான விருதுகளை இனி இவர் பெயரில் வழங்குவது தான் ராஜா அள்ளி வழங்கியிருக்கும் இசை நெசவுகளுக்கு அர்த்தம் அளிக்கும்.

ருத்ரனாகவும், அம்சவல்லியாகவும் வாழ்ந்து காட்டியிருக்கும் அவர்களுக்கு நம் வணக்கங்கள். அம்சவ்ல்லியை விடுங்கள் அவருக்கு 'காசி' போன்ற படங்களில் முன்னுதாரனம் இருக்கிறது. 'ருத்ரன்'தான் நம்மை மலைக்க வைக்கிறார், என்ன நடை? என்ன உடல் மொழி? என்ன பார்வை? அவர் வரும் ஒவ்வொரு ':ப்ரேமும்' அவரே ஆக்ரமிக்கிறார். தன்னை கடவுளாக உணர்ந்த ஒரு மனிதன் எப்படி இருப்பான் என்பதை நம் கண்முன்னே காட்சி படுத்துகிறார். தன் தாய் தந்தையுடன் அவர் உறவாடும்...அல்ல உரையாடும் காட்சிகளில் அவர் காட்டும் கம்பீரம் நிஜ சித்தனாய் மாறி விட்டாலொழிய வந்து இருக்காது. நன்றி 'பாலா'வுக்கு தமிழ் சினிமா கொண்டாட போகும் இன்னொரு நடிகனை உருவாக்கி தந்ததற்க்கு.

படம் பார்த்த பின் ஒரு நன்பர் கேட்டார் நல்லா இருக்கா நல்லா இல்லையா என்று...படத்தில் ஒரு காட்சியில் 'ருத்ரன்' கோவில் தீபத்தில் தன் கஞ்சா குழலை பற்ற வைப்பார், அப்பொழுது ஒரு சக சாமியார் கேட்பார் 'சாமி நெருப்ப அசுத்த படுத்திட்டீங்களே' என்று. ருத்ரன் திருப்பி கேட்பான் ' நெருப்புக்கு என்னடா சுத்தம் அசுத்தம்' என்று. பாலாவின் 'னான் கடவுள்' படம் நெருப்பு போல்!
From: equanimus on Mon Feb 9 4:01:01 2009.

Bala and others,
Yes he does say that. That's why I clarified the meaning. He says a two-liner (presumably from a siththar pAdal given Bala's interest in siththar pAdalgaL) which essentially means it's after all the mother's menstrual blood that becomes two hands, two legs and two ears.

Ok, I googled for the exact verses and got it.

�ஐயிரண்டு திங்களாய்
அடங்கிநின்ற தூமையே
கையிரண்டு காலிரண்டு
கண்ணிரண்டு மானதே!��

This is what Rudhran says in the film. The versions I found online differ only slightly ("தூமைதான்") from this.

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 4:04:22 2009.

Bala and others,
Yes he does say that. That's why I clarified the meaning. He says a two-liner (presumably from a siththar pAdal given Bala's interest in siththar pAdalgaL) which essentially means it's after all the mother's menstrual blood that becomes two hands, two legs and two ears.

Ok, I googled for the exact verses and got it.

�ஐயிரண்டு திங்களாய்
அடங்கிநின்ற தூமையே
கையிரண்டு காலிரண்டு
காதிரண்டு மானதே!��

This is what Rudhran says in the film. The versions I found online differ only slightly ("தூமைதான்") from this.

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 4:05:21 2009.

rajasaranam,
அருமையான எழுத்தாக்கம் !
From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 4:07:21 2009.

'aayirandu thingalaay ulliruntha thumaiyae
kairandu kaalirandu kannirandu aanathen'... ena Thooya thamizhil thodarum antha siththar paadalin artham - speaks about the societies unncessesary importance being given to 'menstruation' which is a part of birth cycle, while the importance should be given to stopping this cycle of birth. Not the exact meaning but this is the gist of it.
Paran mela kedakkura antha sithar paadalgal matrum sivavakkiyaarin paadalgala meendum eduthu padikka vaendum
From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 4:08:22 2009.

nanRi joe
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 4:10:03 2009.

Nandri Eq and RS
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 4:15:52 2009.

The performance of the actor who played Thandavam, was stunning

From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 4:18:04 2009.

Thanks Eq. Seri, idha kettutu why her expression changed. Why she said her daughter that Arya is a Suyambu?

:conused2:

From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 4:19:00 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

The performance of the actor who played Thandavam, was stunning

andha motta mandaiyana ippa nenaicha kooda enakku aathirama varudhu
From: equanimus on Mon Feb 9 4:19:22 2009.

A small correction: He says "kaNNiraNdu" and not "kAdhiraNdu." Actually I was very sure about it myself, but I finally deferred to the version I found online. But now that Rajasaranam has also quoted it, I'm sure I heard it right. Here are the two related pages. (The latter page does say it is "kaNNiraNdu.")

rajasaranam wrote:

'aayirandu thingalaay ulliruntha thumaiyae
kairandu kaalirandu kannirandu aanathen'

Rajasaranam,
It is 'AnadhE' and not 'AnadhEn?' It's more like a matter-of-fact statement about what human life is after all.
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 4:21:50 2009.

Eq,
Second time already paathutteengala?

From: steveaustin on Mon Feb 9 4:22:31 2009.

படம் பார்த்த பின் ஒரு நன்பர் கேட்டார் நல்லா இருக்கா நல்லா இல்லையா என்று...படத்தில் ஒரு காட்சியில் 'ருத்ரன்' கோவில் தீபத்தில் தன் கஞ்சா குழலை பற்ற வைப்பார், அப்பொழுது ஒரு சக சாமியார் கேட்பார் 'சாமி நெருப்ப அசுத்த படுத்திட்டீங்களே' என்று. ருத்ரன் திருப்பி கேட்பான் ' நெருப்புக்கு என்னடா சுத்தம் அசுத்தம்' என்று. பாலாவின் 'னான் கடவுள்' படம் நெருப்பு போல்!

Rightly said.

I want to watch the movie atleast 5 times.

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 4:22:51 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

The performance of the actor who played Thandavam, was stunning

In Audio launch function Vikram mentioned a name and said "அவர் இங்கே கீழே உக்கார்ந்திருக்கார் .பிதாமகன் -ல நான் அவரை அடிக்குற மாதிரி சீன்-ல நாம இவ்வளவு பவர்புள்-ளாவா அடிச்சோம் -ன்னு நினைக்குற மாதிரி போய் விழுவார் .அவ்வளவு நடிப்பு .அவருக்கு இந்த படத்தில் பாலா முக்கியமான கேரக்டர் கொடுத்திருக்கார்"

did he mentioned about this guy?

From: equanimus on Mon Feb 9 4:29:37 2009.

Eq,
Second time already paathutteengala?

Yeah, saw the film again, yesterday.

The performance of the actor who played Thandavam, was stunning

In Audio launch function Vikram mentioned a name and said "அவர் இங்கே கீழே உக்கார்ந்திருக்கார் .பிதாமகன் -ல நான் அவரை அடிக்குற மாதிரி சீன்-ல நாம இவ்வளவு பவர்புள்-ளாவா அடிச்சோம் -ன்னு நினைக்குற மாதிரி போய் விழுவார் .அவ்வளவு நடிப்பு .அவருக்கு இந்த படத்தில் பாலா முக்கியமான கேரக்டர் கொடுத்திருக்கார்"

did he mentioned about this guy? Rolling Eyes

Yes, he's the guy who gets thrashed by Siththan in the jail.

From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 4:42:19 2009.

A small correction: He says "kaNNiraNdu" and not "kAdhiraNdu." Actually I was very sure about it myself, but I finally deferred to the version I found online. But now that Rajasaranam has also quoted it, I'm sure I heard it right. Here are the two related pages. (The latter page does say it is "kaNNiraNdu.")

'aayirandu thingalaay ulliruntha thumaiyae
kairandu kaalirandu kannirandu aanathen'

Rajasaranam,
It is 'AnadhE' and not 'AnadhEn?' It's more like a matter-of-fact statement about what human life is after all.

konjam confessana thaan irukku, let me check in the print version ... read it more than 10 years back. 'AnadhE' seems more meaningful

From: raja_fan on Mon Feb 9 5:38:26 2009.

It is Aanadhe !

From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 9 5:50:48 2009.

'aayirandu thingalaay ulliruntha thumaiyae
kairandu kaalirandu kannirandu aanathen'

Rajasaranam,
It is 'AnadhE' and not 'AnadhEn?' It's more like a matter-of-fact statement about what human life is after all.

konjam confessana thaan irukku, let me check in the print version ... read it more than 10 years back. 'AnadhE' seems more meaningful

Yes it is Anadhe!!

From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 9 5:56:08 2009.

Bala anna on friday @ PVR the crowd was decent!!
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 5:57:50 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

Bala anna on friday @ PVR the crowd was decent!!

PVR la full yesterday 4PM show, i went to Inox, Jayanagar.
All i heard as WOM was negative
From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 9 5:58:30 2009.

engala mattum enna thavuttuka vaangittu vanthaanga

intha polappu pothu kakoos la poi vetha vethama alli thingalaam illa

itha pola pala one-liners made me
From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 9 6:02:00 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Kalyasi wrote:

Bala anna on friday @ PVR the crowd was decent!!

PVR la full yesterday 4PM show, i went to Inox, Jayanagar.
All i heard as WOM was negative

Yes nethikku Rajahamsa la rendu pasanga pesikitaanga

ennaya padam eduthuirukaan, summa pichakaarangala vechu, semma bore ya thayavu seithu poidatha.... itha thaan ukkanthu 3 varusama eduthaana

I just laughed at what he said

ivanunga ellam climax la pooja vum arya vum duet paduvaanga nu ethirpaathanga pola?
From: joe on Mon Feb 9 6:06:44 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

itha thaan ukkanthu 3 varusama eduthaana

Padathula graphics-lam ethiripaarthiruppanunga pola
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 6:08:06 2009.

joe wrote:

Kalyasi wrote:

itha thaan ukkanthu 3 varusama eduthaana

Padathula graphics-lam ethiripaarthiruppanunga pola

Actually 6-pack, 8-pack edhirpaarthirundhaalum indha padathula irukku

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 6:16:18 2009.

itha thaan ukkanthu 3 varusama eduthaana

Padathula graphics-lam ethiripaarthiruppanunga pola Mad

Actually 6-pack, 8-pack edhirpaarthirundhaalum indha padathula irukku

I think they thought மலைக்கோவில்ல கேமராவை கள்ளத்தனமா fix பண்ணி வச்சு பாலா எல்லாத்தையும் ரொம்ப சுளுவா எடுத்துட்டான்.

ஒவ்வொரு பிரேமுக்கும் எத்தனை பேரை எவ்வளவு நேரம் வேலை வாங்கி எடுக்கப்பட்டிருக்க வேண்டும்-ன்னு கொஞ்சமாவது யோசிக்க மாட்டாங்களா?

From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 7:32:55 2009.

Writer pA.Raagavan

எனது மறுமொழி

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தவறாக புரிந்து கொள்ளப்படும் சினிமா, சரியாக புரிந்து கொள்ளப்படும் வாழ்க்கையை விட அபாயகரமானது! ருத்ரனின் ஆன்மிக கருத்துக்ககளை பாலாவின் மீது ஏற்றி பார்க்கும் சினிமா பார்வையை எங்கிருந்து பயின்றிர்கள் என்பதை தெளிவுபடுத்தவும். பாலா ஒரு �filmmaker� அவ்வளவே. அவர் எடுக்கும் சினிமாக்கள் சாதாரணர்களை விடுத்து வேற்று மனிதர்களை பற்றி பேசுவது. வாழ்க்கையிலிருந்தே தன் கதை மாந்தர்களை தேர்ந்தெடுத்தாலும் அவர் அதில் அதிதங்களை நோக்கி நகர்பவர். இந்த படம் பேசுவது �வாழ்க்கை அவலமாய் இருக்கும் ஒருத்திக்கும், வாழ்க்கையை தனகங்காரத்தால் வென்றெடுத்த ஒருவனுக்கும்� நேரும் பரிமாற்றம் பற்றி.

சரி அப்படியே ஆன்மிக புரிதலோடுதான் படம் எடுக்க வேண்டும் என்றால் எந்த புரிதலோடு துவங்குவது? த்வைதம், அத்வைதம், சாங்கியம், மிமாம்சம், சமணம், இஸ்லாம், பௌத்தம், கிருத்துவம்� என நீ..ளு..ம்.. இந்த பட்டியலிலிருந்து எதை தேர்வு செய்வது? மற்றெல்லா ஆன்மிக புரிதலுமே ஒன்றை மட்டும் புரிந்தவர்க்கு தவறு தானே? ஆப்படியாயின் ருத்ரனின் (அல்லது பாலாவின் - உங்கள் பார்வையில்) புரிதல் தவறு என்று சொல்ல நமக்கு என்ன அருகதை இருக்கிறது?

இந்த படம் என்ன வகையான மன பிம்பங்களை நம்முள்ளே தோற்றுவிக்கிறது அல்லது கட்டமைக்கிறது என்பதை மட்டும் பார்க்க வேண்டும். என்னுடன் வந்து நண்பன் சொன்னான் �ருத்ரன் அந்த வில்லன்களை அடித்து துவம்சம் செய்யும் காட்சியை இன்னும் பிரமாதமாக எடுத்து இருக்கலாம் என்று�. நான் கேட்டேன் �எப்படி �பாட்சா� �சாமி� போன்ற படங்களில் கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமா உருவேத்திகிட்டே போயி நச்சுன்னு அடிப்பாங்களே அந்த மாதிரியா� என்று? �Exactly� என்றான் அவன். �As a film maker Bala has succeeded in alienating yourself from �Rudran�, as alienated �Rudran� is from the mainstream society� . பிதாமகன்�இல் இருந்த சித்தனுடனான அந்த �emotional connection�ஐ அறுத்து எறிந்து அவர் அடுத்த கட்டத்துக்கு நகர்ந்து விட்டார் என்றேன். அடுத்து என்ன செய்வார் பாலா என பொறுத்திருந்து பார்க்க வேண்டும்.

மற்றபடி நமக்கெல்லாம் �பேரரசு� படம்தாங்க பெஸ்ட்டு. குத்து பாட்டு, தொப்புள் டான்ஸ், தொடை தட்றது, பன்ச் டயலாக்குன்னு களை கட்டும்ள்ள. �நான் கடவுள்� காமிக்கிற உலகத்த விட்டு, �திருவண்ணாமலை� ஆக்ஷன் ஜோதில கலந்து கூத்தடிக்கலாம் வாங்க.

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 8:06:52 2009.

Rajasaranam,
I have read Para's review and wanted to post a reply .you almost said what i wanted to tell.

I don't mind even Para coildn't come out of the circle thought "whatever movie hero says and does are what the director conveys to audience or justified by director" ,but did bala say that Rudran character is the HERO of this movie?

Even if Para thinks that what Rudhran does is wrong ,let it be ..why can't he take it as a character with wrong mindset?
From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Feb 9 8:10:30 2009.

adada...ippovE endhiruchchu pOyi "thoNdaila aaparEsannu" sollittu kiLambi padam paakkaNum pOla irukkE.....

From: Vivasaayi on Mon Feb 9 8:22:46 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

From: rajasaranam on Mon Feb 9 10:00:41 2009.

joe,

Ippadiye Vimarsanam senjukitte etho oru link'la amsavalliya, Thaandavan yaen Rape pannalannu kaetta oru blog'la seruppadi koduthuttu vanthen...entha blognnu nyabagam illai. Engaiyavathu paarththa sollunga

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 10:03:24 2009.

RS -

joe,

Ippadiye Vimarsanam senjukitte etho oru link'la amsavalliya, Thaandavan yaen Rape pannalannu kaetta oru blog'la seruppadi koduthuttu vanthen...entha blognnu nyabagam illai. Engaiyavathu paarththa sollunga Embarassed

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 10:07:09 2009.

Naanum padichen..irunga yosichu soluren

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 10:09:17 2009.

yeah joe - i think it was one of the links u posted here. i too read it today
From: irir123 on Mon Feb 9 10:16:10 2009.

Arya's character name is RUDRAN and the villain's name is THANDAVAM - the climax chase scenes become a visual "RUDRA THANDAVAM" !! hmm, Bala leaps onto a giant step in his career with such well-thought names for his characters!

and IR does a "RUDRA THANDAVAM" in BGM!!

I have a strong suspicion that besides the inclusion of "Bitchai pathiram" IR also had a big role in the kind of sanskrit verses that were used throughout the movie (given IR's deep knowledge of Sanskrit I wudnt be surprised if tat were the case)

The BGM recording session available online was relegated to the background during the climax - but still the extended BGM was stunning! I only hope that some1 wud ask Bala to release the BGM tracks as a CD - it would be a gross injustice to the efforts of this genius

something else I noticed - our film-watching audiences have not evolved at all - they maybe making dollars, but the way they conduct themselves in a movie hall was unbearable - constantly bickering, commenting loudly throughout the movie - they wudnt do this in a big hall sitting alongwith people of other ethnicities - some 'desi' mentality
From: Nerd on Mon Feb 9 10:17:43 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

All i heard as WOM was negative

Yes. I went to the theater on Friday night. It was housefull, I had to come back. They were playing it in a smaller theater on friday (300 odd seats). Then I went on Sat'day evening, they had shifted it to a bigger (600) theater and there were hardly 60 people in the theater. Many people I know decided not to come see beggars on screen, wasting ten bucks..
From: Srimannarayanan on Mon Feb 9 10:36:31 2009.

Nerd

Where did you see the movie ? Trichy or Texas?
From: joe on Mon Feb 9 10:40:57 2009.

Btw ,Chennai-la response eppadi?

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 10:42:12 2009.

I have a strong suspicion that besides the inclusion of "Bitchai pathiram" IR also had a big role in the kind of sanskrit verses that were used throughout the movie (given IR's deep knowledge of Sanskrit I wudnt be surprised if tat were the case)

enakkum indha doubt. Who was/were the main influence/contributors with the Sanskrit verses/philisophy(?) in the film. I'm not familiar with Jeyamohan's writings.

From: Nerd on Mon Feb 9 10:42:20 2009.

Srimannarayanan wrote:

Nerd
Where did you see the movie ? Trichy or Texas?

Texas dhAn brother. But will watch it in Trichy in two weeks if it's still running. Heard it's not doing good there

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 10:46:57 2009.

From: joe on Mon Feb 9 10:50:01 2009.

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 10:47:13 2009.

I guess villain's name is thandavaN
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 10:48:28 2009.

Nethulerndhu the effect has only kept growing. After the film, that is. Is it just me?...

enakkum indha doubt. Who was/were the main influence/contributors with the Sanskrit verses/philisophy(?) in the film. I'm not familiar with Jeyamohan's writings.

Ithula enna santhegam ..Jayamohan thaan ..'vishnu puram'-nnu thalaiyanai size-kku oru novel ezhuthiyirukkar ..Library-la irunthu padikalamnnu eduthuttu vanthu rendu pakkam mela padikka mudiyaama ..rendu naaL thalaikku vachu thoongittu return panniten.

From: Nerd on Mon Feb 9 10:51:39 2009.

Thanks Eq/RS/CR.
Nest question: Whats the significance of the man-with-a-deformed face character (the one malayaaLathAn brings) ? What does he symbolize?
From: irir123 on Mon Feb 9 11:21:28 2009.

I dont know if any of you read my reference to Charles Dickens portrayal/social commentary of the decadent England slums in a society deeply divided along economic lines, even as England was reaping the benefits of a worldwide domination (!) in the 18th century, full of symbolisms - somehow Nan Kadavul reminded me of Oliver Twist from my Chennai school days!

whichever way one looks at it, if this movie does not affect the Tamil film industry positively, nothing ever will, period..

once again hats off to Bala, for such a realistic take filled with subtle symbolisms as well as on-your-face no-nonsense portrayal of people none of us wud even consider giving a second look on the streets! the beggars are the stars of the movie and the movie begs to listen to their plights!

I have not seen Salaam Mumbai (mira nair), but I sincerely doubt, if any such movie has ever come out in mainstream commercial cinema without the regular commercial elements, with heavy doses of authenticity and very casual conversational dialogs, the wit of which is a sugar-coat over the inexplicable-undeniable pathos that lies beneath

have anyone seen PASI (featuring yesteryear Shobha) was it as painfully visualised as NK ?

From: bimmer on Mon Feb 9 11:22:34 2009.

bimmer;

There are lot of flaws in the movie and there are lot of questions we can ask about the character Rudran. Agreed, but the main plot is about the beggars, I don't think I could find a flaw in their part, could you? let me know.

Judge

Iam Confused about the Plot in itself. I already said "I did'nt like the Movie", go-on enjoy the discussions. Iam gonna stay out of this thread for sometime

From: vatsa400 on Mon Feb 9 12:00:27 2009.

I am a silent observer and new to this forum. I watched the movie in London and I liked the movie in parts.

I found some important scenes missing (like murder of malayalee broker, climax fight with villain, scenes before and after Pooja going to church). This meant the second half was more like a trailer than a movie.

I am not sure some discontinuity is because of poor editing or censor cuts or efforts to shorten the movie (is there any need?). It seems like a combination of all the three. Is the movie really 2 hours 15 mins everywhere or is it just in London some scenes are deleted? The scene transition looked really jarring in the first half and most of second half and I for one think it does not deserve any award for this reason. Maybe the full cut is better given some individual scenes are unique.

The things which I liked in the movie:

1. Camerawork - I think this is the best in the movie
2. Acting - I found Pooja and Arya at times apt 99% of the time (except for one or two scenes which was not natural). Others were living the character (many of them could easily get an award).
3. Characters - everyone except Rudran (which was 80% satisfying, but the 20% is because Rudran speaks very few dialogues and most of them are in Hindi or Sanskrit). Some of the supporting characters are done with utmost care and are really a treat to watch.
4. Some Sequences - Some scenes are unique and I havent seen anything even remotely similar (although I am not totally happy with the screenplay). Also, some of the difficult scenes (which many strangely felt uncomfortable like watching alot of disabled people) were a treat to watch. Infact I enjoyed those scenes without feeling the need to watch it out of sympathy.
5. Direction - effort taken in make so many act and involving characters interact rather than actor interact (like Aryas screen time was less and appropriately used etc.), so not compromising on quality at that front.
6. Art Direction - although some reminds you of Sethu and Pithamagan, on the whole it is really good and realistic

Not sure:

1. Music - I am not sure about music. Maybe the scene transition put me off and distracted me from the movie. I will probably watch few more times probably the uncut or the version with almost all scenes to comment on this. I should say from whatever I heard, its classic Raja (need to watch couple of times more to comment).

Negative points:

1. Editing - Given this movie is a difficult subject to understand for average audience, this should have been one of the priority areas.
2. Screenplay - I think the screenplay could have been tighter. Although the movie constantly kept me guessing, but there were scenes in the "known" world like the police's reaction and court's reaction to the case and the reason looked amateurish. Given there is two threads unknown world (beggars and aghoris) involved, I felt the screenplay did not capture this in the right way.
3. Pooja sings old songs same as original old song voice with accompanying music is not appropriate.

CENSOR - although this is unrelated to the movie, the essence of the movie is taken out by censor or Bala/anyone's rationale to get a U/A. Disaster.

Overall, I was expecting a more rounded movie. Given it had all the elements to be a classic, its a dissappointment that it just is a good movie. Certainly its one of the good movies I have watched in any language.

V
From: jaiganes on Mon Feb 9 12:51:11 2009.

Baradwajrangan says:
Just caught it today. I really liked a lot of it. The underlying conceit, I thought, was mind-blowing. I had some problems with the way it all came together, but nothing that diminished my overall experience of the film.
From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 9 14:06:28 2009.

directhit wrote:

I guess villain's name is thandavaN

No, it is thAndavam only. While he was shown for the first time and he gets out of the white colour sumo, the windsheild has a sticker saying 'thandavam & co' in Tamil.
From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 9 14:08:48 2009.

rajasaranam;

Thanks for your points.
athukkuLla 3 thadavai pAththAchchA?
From: Avadi to America on Mon Feb 9 14:33:22 2009.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-3/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-naan-kadavul.html
From: Avadi to America on Mon Feb 9 14:41:51 2009.

KAMMUNATYNga.... naan irrukura edathula innum pdam release panna matturanunga....atleast if they relase in hartford which is 60 miles from me would be good enough.

I remember "Echil iravugale" movie released in 80s also dealt with beggers. The movie has ver good melody "Poo melay visum poongatrey..." from raja of tamil music. Please do not think i am comparing NKwith Echil iravugal.

I always liked BALA's work. i still remember how audiance applauded his movie "pithamagan" in redhills lakshmi theatre. I hope this would continue to this movie also. pona padthula "Naan kadavulin magan (pitha magan) (word borrowed from Jesus) sonnaru.... intha padathula "naan kadavul" solli irrukaru.
From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 9 15:00:23 2009.

how many minutes is the movie duration in tamil
From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 9 15:12:44 2009.

atlast watched telugu dubbed version

I think no other director can do such a spine-tingling movie and no other censor board can spifflicate it
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 15:15:11 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

atlast watched telugu dubbed version

I think no other director can do such a spine-tingling movie and no other censor board can spifflicate it
From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 15:17:34 2009.

Most disturbing film I've ever seen. Never I have taken my eyes off the screen as I did for this movie.

Not to mention the astounding BG score
From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 9 15:19:10 2009.

littlemaster1982 wrote:

Most disturbing film I've ever seen.

yeah, I am not getting sleep now
From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 9 15:23:37 2009.

why cant censor board certify the movie like A+ or A++ and release the full version

thamizh'layum U/A dhaanaa wts the meaning of U/A kudumbaththOda ukkaandhu paakkura Adults movie'yaa bl**dy b**gers
From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 15:29:08 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

wts the meaning of U/A

Children are allowed if they are accompanied by adults.

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 15:31:49 2009.

loved the scene where the old man talks abt god Bow

The greatest moment in the film IMO. kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

Particularly this dialogue. Nammalai maadhiri eena piravingalukku yedhuda saami? No words to say.

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 16:04:05 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Kalyasi wrote:

Bala anna on friday @ PVR the crowd was decent!!

PVR la full yesterday 4PM show, i went to Inox, Jayanagar.
All i heard as WOM was negative

WOM is not encouraging. My friend advised me not to watch the film.

Tonight's show had just around 30 people
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 9 16:06:57 2009.

littlemaster1982 wrote:

WOM is not encouraging. My friend advised me not to watch the film.

Tonight's show had just around 30 people

Vaazhga Jananayagam varuga Marudhanayagam

PVR-a?

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 16:11:37 2009.

adhukku munnadi Arya wud say something to her in sanskrit - not sure what, enakku adhoda kadaisi vaartha edho tamizh ketta vartha madhiri kettuchu Embarassed

He refers to 'thoomai'(?) and asks her 'thoomai na enna nu theriyuma?'

No, his mom tells his sister that he is a svayambu but im referring to the conversation between Arya and his mother.

P.S: Adhukulla enakku kaadhu javvu vittukucha? Shaking With Fear

Edhukkum innoru thadava padatha pakkarappa gavanichukkaren

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தாய்மையையையுமே இப்படி மாறுபட்ட கோணத்தில் பொருத்திப்பார்த்து சுயம்புவாகிய கதாபாத்திர அமைப்பு சொல்லிக்காட்டும் சித்தர் பாடல் எதுவென்று தேடிப்பார்க்கவேண்டும். வசனத்தை இன்னொரு முறை கேட்டு அந்தப் பாடல் வரிகளை இணையத்தில் தேடிப்பார்க்கவேண்டும், கிடைக்கவில்லையென்றால் தெரிந்தோர்களிடம் விசாரித்துப் பார்க்கவேண்டும். தமிழ்த்திரையில் தாயை நிறுத்திவைத்து இப்படிக் கேள்வி கேட்ட கதாபாத்திரம் எதுவுமே கிடையாது. 'தந்தை தவறு செய்தான் தாயும் இடங்கொடுத்தாள் வந்து பிறந்துவிட்டோம் வெறும் பந்தம் வளர்த்து விட்டோம்' என்று தத்துவம் பாடித்தான் கண்ணதாசனும் பிறப்பை எள்ளி நகையாடியிருக்கிறார். எந்த ஒரு மோசமான பாத்திரப்படைப்பாக இருந்தாலும் அந்தக் கதாபாத்திரம் தமிழ்த் திரையில் சந்திக்கும் தாய்மையின் உயரங்கள் அதிகம், தமிழ்த் திரை ரசிகனுக்கும் தாய்மைக்குமான மனவெழுச்சித் தொடர்பும் அதிகம். இந்த வசனத்தை தமிழ்த் திரையும் பெண்ணியவாதிகளும் எப்படி அணுகப் போகிறார்களென்பதைப் பொறுத்திருந்து பார்க்கவேண்டும். படம் வெற்றி பெற்றால், இந்த வசனத்தை எதிர்த்து பெண்ணியவாதிகள் தங்கள் கருத்தை முன்வைக்க வாய்ப்புகள் இருக்கின்றன. படம் தோல்வியுற்றால், அது பேசப்படாமலே போய்விடும். வாலியின் புதுக்கவிதைப் புத்தகத்திலிருந்து சில வரிகளை வசனங்களில் கையாண்டிருப்பதை பாலசந்தர் அவர்கள் தனது அக்னி சாட்சி படத்தில் பெயர் காட்டும்போது குறிப்பிட்டிருப்பார். பாலா + ஜெயமோகன் இருவரும் படத்தில் கையாளப்படும் சித்தர் பாடல் வரிகளை எங்கிருந்து எடுத்தாண்டிருக்கிறார்கள் என்பதை பெயர் காட்டும்போதே குறிப்பிட்டார்களென்றால் நன்றாக இருக்கும்போலத் தோன்றுகிறது. தாய்மை குறித்து மாறுபட்ட கருத்தை முன்வைக்கும் சித்தர் பாடல் யாருடைய வரிகள் என்பதற்காக (சித்தர் பாடல்களில் போதிய வாசிப்பனுபவம் இல்லாமல்) இப்பொழுது மண்டையை உடைத்துக்கொள்ளவேண்டிய அவசியம் இருந்திருக்காது.

படத்தில் சொல்லப்படும் சித்தர் பாடலின் முன்பின் வரிகளைப் படித்துப் பார்த்து இது உண்மையிலேயே தாய்மையின் மீது மாறுபட்ட பார்வையை வைக்கிறதா அல்லது பரவலாக சொல்லப்படும் பாரதி பாடலான 'மெல்லத் தமிழினி சாகும்' வகையறாவைச் சேர்ந்த தேவையானதை மட்டுமே வெட்டி ஒட்டும் பணியா என்பதை தெளிவாக்கிக்கொள்ளவேண்டிய கட்டாயத்திற்கு நம்மை ஆட்படுத்தியிருக்கிறார் வசனம் எழுதியிருக்கும் ஜெயமோகன் அய்யா அவர்கள். சல்தாஹை. இன்னொரு முறை படத்தைப் பார்த்தால் அந்தப் பாடல் வரிகளை எழுதிவைத்து பின்னர் தேடிப் பார்க்கவேண்டும். இந்த வசனத்திற்குப் பின்னரே ருத்ரனின் தாய் அவனைத் தனது பாசக்கட்டிலிருந்து நீக்குகின்றாள்.

Enakku innum puriyala Embarassed

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 16:12:43 2009.

WOM is not encouraging. My friend advised me not to watch the film.

Tonight's show had just around 30 people Neutral

Vaazhga Jananayagam varuga Marudhanayagam Clap

PVR-a?

Fun Cinemas. Aana podhuvaave indha theatre-la koottam irukkadhu.

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 21:42:01 2009.

No, it is thAndavam only. While he was shown for the first time and he gets out of the white colour sumo, the windsheild has a sticker saying 'thandavam & co' in Tamil.

I guess villain's name is thandavaN Confused

i remember the sticker - and i still remember(ed) it as thandavan

- but yeah Thandavam makes more sense

LM - links in prev pages by equa and expln's by RS had some info on that.

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 22:22:02 2009.

No, it is thAndavam only. While he was shown for the first time and he gets out of the white colour sumo, the windsheild has a sticker saying 'thandavam & co' in Tamil.

I guess villain's name is thandavaN Confused

i remember the sticker - and i still remember(ed) it as thandavan Ashamed

- but yeah Thandavam makes more sense Cool

LM - links in prev pages by equa and expln's by RS had some info on that.

Anoop,

Read Rs' explanation. But I'm not clear about it yet.

And yeah, his name is 'Thaandavan' only. I'm sure.

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 22:39:06 2009.

ok from what i understood his mom says that she is worried abt him and other usual stuff and for that he replies, am only a product of the menstrual blood
but padathula naraya pureela - waiting for hub analysts
From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 9 22:52:04 2009.

Naanum kittathatta idheythan purinjukitten, but still
From: irir123 on Mon Feb 9 23:02:49 2009.

somehow, in terms of the mood and pathos it invokes, the 'bitchai paathiram' song reminds me of the timeless classic "kadavul ullame orr karunai illamey" from Anbulla Rajinikanth
From: joe on Mon Feb 9 23:45:02 2009.

The big disadvantage in BO performance of the movie is it is not suitable for family audience

From: PoonaiKutty on Mon Feb 9 23:45:14 2009.

No, it is thAndavam only. While he was shown for the first time and he gets out of the white colour sumo, the windsheild has a sticker saying 'thandavam & co' in Tamil.

I guess villain's name is thandavaN Confused

i remember the sticker - and i still remember(ed) it as thandavan Ashamed

- but yeah Thandavam makes more sense Cool

LM - links in prev pages by equa and expln's by RS had some info on that.

Anoop,

Read Rs' explanation. But I'm not clear about it yet.

And yeah, his name is 'Thaandavan' only. I'm sure.

oops even I remember reading the sticker on his vandi as 'Thandavan".

Grrr avan panradhu Thandavam illla .... "Attoozhiyam"

Thandavam is more on positive note ... nrmly done by someone after destroying attoozhiyakaarargal

Andha Aalayum andha madhiri madathayum pathappuram oonu mudivu pannittein .. inimel endha pichakaranukkum kaasu podaradhunnu ... naan oruthi podathadhunaala paavam anikku indha Thandavan madhiri aalunga kitta enna madhiri odha vaanguvaangalo

From: viraajan on Mon Feb 9 23:54:39 2009.

PoonaiKutty wrote:

Andha Aalayum andha madhiri madathayum pathappuram oonu mudivu pannittein .. inimel endha pichakaranukkum kaasu podaradhunnu ... naan oruthi podathadhunaala paavam anikku indha Thandavan madhiri aalunga kitta enna madhiri odha vaanguvaangalo Sad

Exactly my thoughts! Even I'm thinking about the same. Paavam

From: directhit on Mon Feb 9 23:56:24 2009.

ippadiyellam podadheenga - appuram Bala padam pichai poduvadhai thoondi vidugiradhu nu edhanaa oru loosu case podum!!
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 0:02:03 2009.

http://www.parisalkaaran.com/2009/02/blog-post.html
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 0:39:08 2009.

http://ennam.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

and my comment...

//கடவுளின் தாயைப் பழிக்கும் வார்த்தையுடன் மாற்றுக் கருத்து உண்டு.//

ஏன் பாலாவுக்கு கூட மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம்..படத்தில் ஒவ்வொரு கதாபாத்திரம் பேசிய வசனங்களும் ஏதோ பாலாவின் கொள்கை விளக்கங்கள் எனும் ரீதியில் நீங்கள் எழுதியிருப்பது புரியவில்லை.

வாழ்வின் அவலத்தின் உச்சத்தில் நின்று யாரோ ஒரு பிச்சைக்காரன் அப்படி சொல்லியிருக்க மாட்டான் என்று உங்களால் கூற முடியுமா ?

அதை பாலா காட்டியிருக்கிறார் ..ஏதோ அது அவர் கொள்கை போல சொல்லுகிறீர்கள்.
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 10 0:42:16 2009.

irir123 wrote:

have anyone seen PASI (featuring yesteryear Shobha) was it as painfully visualised as NK ?

No. Pasi's visuals are comparable to Mahendran film visuals. Its not about beggars - Shoba plays the role of a rag-picker. But the movie was shot in slums. I would put Pasi and Salaam Bombay on the same pedestal w.r.to showing slums/poverty etc. NK's visuals are more shocking than any other tamizh film. Have not seen echchil iravugaL.

Watching pitchai pAthiram song on youtube. The little one whistling at a girl was a masterstroke. I remember laughing my guts out - I badly needed to do that, the last few scenes before that were extremely painful. And them measuring the coins on a scale towards the end of the song was shocking to say the least. I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 0:45:56 2009.

Nerd wrote:

I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.

Same here
From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 10 0:52:44 2009.

joe wrote:

Nerd wrote:

I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.

Same here

Same Here...
From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 1:04:33 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

rajasaranam;

Thanks for your points.
athukkuLla 3 thadavai pAththAchchA?

he he he... anegama innaikku 4th time going
From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 10 1:11:16 2009.

pavee rajasaranam.
nadaththu.
un kaattil adai mazhai dhaan po.
innum dharisanam kidaikkaadha ennai pondrorukku, kadavul enna karunai kaatuvaaro theriyalai.
From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 1:11:38 2009.

directhit wrote:

ippadiyellam podadheenga - appuram Bala padam pichai poduvadhai thoondi vidugiradhu nu edhanaa oru loosu case podum!!

hayyayooo indha madhiri vambu ellam irukka inga
From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 1:16:43 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

MrJudge wrote:

rajasaranam;

Thanks for your points.
athukkuLla 3 thadavai pAththAchchA?

he he he... anegama innaikku 4th time going

4th time WOW!!!

I don thnk I can watch the 'Pitchai pathiram' song again by not crying
1st time theatre la pathappove kashtapattu adakikkittein .. cos in these s'pore theatres one can see all the ppl's reaction in the row infront of u
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 1:23:13 2009.

PoonaiKutty wrote:

cos in these s'pore theatres one can see all the ppl's reaction in the row infront of u

PoonaiKutty-kke intha pirachanaiya ?

From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 1:25:30 2009.

Watching pitchai pAthiram song on youtube. The little one whistling at a girl was a masterstroke. I remember laughing my guts out - I badly needed to do that, the last few scenes before that were extremely painful. And them measuring the coins on a scale towards the end of the song was shocking to say the least. I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.

without that scene that song was too much to take in

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 1:35:28 2009.

தான்டவம்'ன்னு யாராவது பேர் வைப்பாங்கலா? அது தான்டவன்'தான்! மனிதம்-மனிதன், அகிலம்-அகிலன், புனிதம்-புனிதன்...its due to the difference between verb & noun.
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 1:37:38 2009.

paramasivam
akilAndam
jeevanandam
panchAtcharam - doesn't get more noun than that

btw thaNdavan, thANdavam reNdum noun dhaan.

naan innum padam pArkkalai...podhuvA solrEn
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 1:37:50 2009.

sify or some other online sites also referred to it as thandavam. adhanaala vandha kozhappam pola. habbaa my eyes are still good
From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 1:43:11 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

pavee rajasaranam.
nadaththu.
un kaattil adai mazhai dhaan po.
innum dharisanam kidaikkaadha ennai pondrorukku, kadavul enna karunai kaatuvaaro theriyalai.

Enna seirathu ovvoru vaatti paakum bodhum Iam learning more on the art of film making. Its not a flawless movie but Bala is just brilliant in making 'Intense & powerful' movies with the right mix of reality & fiction. Intha padaththa 'manapaadam' panra varaikkum vida maaten

The only movie I watched once is 'Nantha'. should revisit it sometime.
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 1:43:33 2009.

DH,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvxFhDbCa0

Youtube-la paarkuRa visuals (especially second half of the song) theatre-la paarthathukku konjam different-a irukka maathiri irukke.. ungaLukku?
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 1:45:45 2009.

joe - UT blocked at aapees. vootukku poi parkaren. which song is this? i saw pitchaipathiram the two days back - it was same
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 1:47:21 2009.

directhit wrote:

joe - UT blocked at aapees. vootukku poi parkaren. which song is this? i saw pitchaipathiram the two days back - it was same

Pichai paathiram song thaan.
Later part varra sila visuals naan theatre-la paakkatha maathiri irukku
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 1:51:55 2009.

okies naan thirumba pathutu solren

From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 10 1:57:01 2009.

joe - UT blocked at aapees. vootukku poi parkaren. which song is this? i saw pitchaipathiram the two days back - it was same

Pichai paathiram song thaan.
Later part varra sila visuals naan theatre-la paakkatha maathiri irukku Wink

leper eating food with his degraded hands was very tough to watch for me. mugaththai thiruppi koLLa vazhi illadhu padam paarkka vaithirukkiraare Bala?

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 1:59:58 2009.

paramasivam
akilAndam
jeevanandam
panchAtcharam - doesn't get more noun than that

btw thaNdavan, thANdavam reNdum noun dhaan.

naan innum padam pArkkalai...podhuvA solrEn

Otrai vaarthai irattai vaarthai? school'la thamizh padikkathathaala (English'um sariya padikkala

) ilakkana padi itha epdi solrathunnu theriyala

I havent heard a name (Single Word) which is a verb when converted to noun ends with the sound 'm' in tamil.

BTW how does Thandavam becomes a noun? isn't it an action!

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 2:18:13 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

BTW how does Thandavam becomes a noun? isn't it an action!

It is a name of an action..'kopam' is a noun ,'kopi' is verb.
From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 10 2:46:23 2009.

joe wrote:

rajasaranam wrote:

BTW how does Thandavam becomes a noun? isn't it an action!

It is a name of an action..'kopam' is a noun ,'kopi' is verb.

correct...
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 2:46:25 2009.

action example enakkum thONalai. The point I was trying to make is, in Tamil names, the concept and the one who has the concept as the attribute are both used. So even if the name thAndavam was seen, it would not be surprising.

Sudarsanam and Sudarsanan are both common names.

PersonalA BadshA Rajini maadhiri solrEn...
em pEr Prabhu Ram.....enakku innoru pErum irukku
(theem meesic and then in bass voice)...kaaLamEgam

(Presumably) kaaLamEgan would be a description of Krishna. - kariya mEgaththai pOnra niRam udaiyavan. But as it is the name just refers to the cloud itself. The mythological parallel is left to us. naan iyARkaiyai vaNangukiREn appidinnu vasadhiyA escape aayiralAm.
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 2:48:34 2009.

கோபி என்பதும் பெயர்ச்சொல் தான். வினைச்சொல் அல்ல. கோபித்தல் தான் வினை - pardon the pun.

Anyway, I got what RS is saying.
From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 2:50:11 2009.

idhula enna confusion? There are several names that end with a 'ம்' or 'ன்' interchangeably, right? subramaNiyam, subramaNiyan?
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 2:54:18 2009.

eq, it is about concept vs. description. Whether both can be names. btw the etymology of subrahmanian is loaded with vettukkuththu potential.

Okay, let me steer it back to NK. Was Stun Siva missed ? How was Super SubbarAyan's work ?

(naanga evvaLO periyA social matter pEsittu irukkOm, enna kElvi kEkkure ?)

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 2:57:14 2009.

கோபி என்பதும் பெயர்ச்சொல் தான். வினைச்சொல் அல்ல. கோபித்தல் தான் வினை - pardon the pun.

பெயர்ச்சொல் 'கோபி' -யும் 'கோபப்படு' எனும் அர்த்ததில் வரும் வினைச்சொல் 'கோபி' -யும் ஒன்றல்ல என நினைக்கிறேன்.

'கோபி' என பெயர் சூட்டுவது கோபியர்களின் கண்ணன் நினைவாக அன்றி 'கோபப்படு' என்னும் அர்த்ததில் அல்ல என நினைக்கிறேன்.

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 3:00:57 2009.

கோபி என்பதும் பெயர்ச்சொல் தான். வினைச்சொல் அல்ல. கோபித்தல் தான் வினை - pardon the pun.

Anyway, I got what RS is saying.

Oru mathiriyaa gunsa namma rendu paerkkum pirinja sari

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 3:01:14 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

கோபித்தல் தான் வினை

கோபித்தேன் ,கோபிக்கிறேன் ,கோபிப்பேன் ,கோபி (second person) ,கோபித்தான் ,கோபிக்கிறான் ,கோபிப்பான் (third person) ஆகியவை தான் வினைச்சொற்கள் ..'கோபித்தல்' அல்ல.
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 3:01:46 2009.

நான் சொன்னது வேறு கோபி. அதாவது முன்கோபி என்று ஒருவரை சொல்கிறோம் அல்லவா. அதுபோல. அங்கே "கோபி" என்பது ஒருவரை குறிக்கும் சொல் (பெயர் அல்ல). கோபம் உடையவன் கோபி. இங்கு கோபம் கோபி இரண்டும் noun தான். அதுபோலவே தாண்டவம் ஆடும் தாண்டவன்.

விட்டால் ஆலூ கோபி, கோபி பாலைவனம் என்று இறங்கிவிடுவோம் போல இருக்கே

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 3:01:52 2009.

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 3:03:46 2009.

Sari Sari....

விட்டால் ஆலூ கோபி, கோபி பாலைவனம் என்று இறங்கிவிடுவோம் போல இருக்கே Razz

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 3:04:46 2009.

Joe,

Antha 'Rape matter' bloga kandupudichitaen Vinaiyum-ethirvinaiyum inga post panna MOD's ellam kOchupaanga

Look for it here
http://pulikesi.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/பாலாவின்-நான்-கடவுள்/#comment-32
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 3:05:51 2009.

'தாண்டவம்' .'தாண்டவன்' இரண்டுமே பெயர்ச்சொல்லாக இருக்கலாம் ..'சிவன்' ,'சிவம்' இரண்டும் பெயர்ச்சொல்லாக இருக்கலாம் என்பது போல ..எனக்கூறி இந்த வழக்காடு மன்றத்தை நிறைவு செய்கிறேன்.
From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Feb 10 3:06:29 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Okay, let me steer it back to NK. Was Stun Siva missed ? How was Super SubbarAyan's work ?

(naanga evvaLO periyA social matter pEsittu irukkOm, enna kElvi kEkkure ?)

It's almost the same as Stun Siva's in Pithamagan. Interestingly Stun Siva was thanked in title credits.
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 3:07:51 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

Joe,Vinaiyum-ethirvinaiyum inga post panna MOD's ellam kOchupaanga

அந்த காட்டுமிராண்டி பய கூட்டத்துல நானும் ஒருத்தனுங்குறத மறந்துடாதீங்க
From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:15:36 2009.

Here is the review from Rediff. They should have given 4*s for this movie

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2009/feb/06telugu-review-naan-kadavul.htm

" Having chosen a very rich and fertile subject, it looks like Bala decided to skim a little over the screenplay and the protagonists. Naan Kadavul is definitely worth a watch for its superb secondary characters, setting and music. Now, if only the screenplay had provided the missing punch. "

I believe Bala was made to miss those punches by the censor board

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:19:28 2009.

'தாண்டவம்' .'தாண்டவன்' இரண்டுமே பெயர்ச்சொல்லாக இருக்கலாம் ..'சிவன்' ,'சிவம்' இரண்டும் பெயர்ச்சொல்லாக இருக்கலாம் என்பது போல ..எனக்கூறி இந்த வழக்காடு மன்றத்தை நிறைவு செய்கிறேன். Smile

athu sari padaththula mottaiyan pEru thAndavamma thAndavanna? mottaiyan aaL sariyAna thErvu, avanOda body language tells us that only that kind of person can run the business. konjam irakkam irunthAlum kashtam thAn intha mAthiri business run paNRathu.

From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 3:20:31 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

eq, it is about concept vs. description. Whether both can be names.

OhO. niRaiya peyar appadi irukkudhE 'nnu solla vandhEn. 'subramaNiyan' is perhaps not an appropriate example.
Prabhu Ram wrote:

btw the etymology of subrahmanian is loaded with vettukkuththu potential.

appadiyA? innoru nALaikku vERoru idaththil pEsuvom.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Okay, let me steer it back to NK. Was Stun Siva missed ? How was Super SubbarAyan's work ?

Ultimately, the "action" sequences are like how they are in Bala's films, and especially 'pithAmagan'. (I think they have used the 'animal flesh' technique here as well, etc.) Anyway, nAn solla vandhadhu enna'nnA... The "fight" sequences here are not very organic to the film. They are in some ways even apologetic, in that they come off simply as what the audience wants.
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 3:21:37 2009.

One blogger mentioned that Rajendran (Thaandavam)'s acting resembles villian actor R.B.Viswam ..After i recall the scenes ,i feel he is right.
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 3:28:55 2009.

equanimus wrote:

They are in some ways even apologetic, in that they come off simply as what the audience wants.
Well I am hearing it is good but not pieced well together. So the question now is how good were the pieces. And those I infer are good.

The choreographed natural feel has a charm of its own.
Super is too choreographed (not that I don't enjoy that, I remember liking the ones in Ghajini). But Stun Siva was another level altogether. Glad to know there isn't a perceptible decline.

From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:33:30 2009.

Ultimately, the "action" sequences are like how they are in Bala's films, and especially 'pithAmagan'. (I think they have used the 'animal flesh' technique here as well, etc.) Anyway, nAn solla vandhadhu enna'nnA... The "fight" sequences here are not very organic to the film. They are in some ways even apologetic, in that they come off simply as what the audience wants.

And why was every time, blood shown in the same way by the camera man.

1 - When Thandavan(m) was killed and thrown over a rock ... it shown to us first by showing the blood flowing over the rock and zoomed upwards towards his body

2 - In the sequence before the above scene, when Rudran was hurt and to show tht to us ... it was same way, blood was flowing down the steps and the camera zoomed upwards to show Rudran meditating in his usual asana.

3 - The scene followed by the above scene also uses the same way

The Cameraman in Bala's movie would have defly thot in different ways each time. But was the above way of showing the blood is purposefully done?!?!

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:37:02 2009.

poonaikutty:

konjam 3rd point-a remove panreengala, please...
From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:37:38 2009.

illa white colour-layAvathu pOdunga
From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:40:28 2009.

directhit wrote:

sify or some other online sites also referred to it as thandavam. adhanaala vandha kozhappam pola. habbaa my eyes are still good

illa I remember seeing it as 'm' only.. let me check agian when I watch it again this week.
From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:40:30 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

poonaikutty:

konjam 3rd point-a remove panreengala, please...

oops sy ... din realise the impact ... changed now

From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Feb 10 3:42:54 2009.

sify or some other online sites also referred to it as thandavam. adhanaala vandha kozhappam pola. habbaa my eyes are still good

illa I remember seeing it as 'm' only.. let me check agian when I watch it again this week.

Judge,

Yen adampudikkareenga, adhu thaandavan-dhan

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:43:34 2009.

Rajini praises 'nAn kadavuL'

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/rajinikanth-10-02-09.html

From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:46:10 2009.

sify or some other online sites also referred to it as thandavam. adhanaala vandha kozhappam pola. habbaa my eyes are still good

illa I remember seeing it as 'm' only.. let me check agian when I watch it again this week.

Judge,

Yen adampudikkareenga, adhu thaandavan-dhan Very Happy

Yes it is 'Thandavan"

it was written in white font in black background as "தான்டவன் & கோ"

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:47:23 2009.

littlemaster1982 wrote:

Yen adampudikkareenga, adhu thaandavan-dhan

sari... majority people solreenga, sariyA thAn irukkumnu namburEn.
From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:49:42 2009.

PoonaiKutty wrote:

Yes it is 'Thandavan"

it was written in white font in black background as "தான்டவன் & கோ"

anga thAn prachchinaiyE...'m'nnu Tamil-la pArththa mAthiri nyAbagam.

Does anyone say his name in the movie?

From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 3:51:01 2009.

Yes it is 'Thandavan"

it was written in white font in black background as "தான்டவன் & கோ"

PoonaiKutty wrote:

anga thAn prachchinaiyE...'m'nnu Tamil-la pArththa mAthiri nyAbagam.

Does anyone say his name in the movie?

i think the police guy when he brings in the mallu guy says the name (not sure though) but its Thandavan

From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 10 3:51:51 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

Rajini praises 'nAn kadavuL'

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/rajinikanth-10-02-09.html

did anyone read the letter he has written ?
he did not fail to mention illayaraja also...

From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:52:25 2009.

Yes it is 'Thandavan"

it was written in white font in black background as "தான்டவன் & கோ"

PoonaiKutty wrote:

anga thAn prachchinaiyE...'m'nnu Tamil-la pArththa mAthiri nyAbagam.

Does anyone say his name in the movie?

Tht inspector ellam refer in the calling version ... "thandava"

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:58:18 2009.

PoonaiKutty, directhit;

hmmm..Now I guess the inspector says it once but like poonaikutty says the last letter wasn't stressed. Anyway guys, it is not a big deal...lets drop it.

From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 3:59:37 2009.

Rajini praises 'nAn kadavuL'

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/rajinikanth-10-02-09.html

did anyone read the letter he has written ?
he did not fail to mention illayaraja also...

Yes!
And his praise to Arya would be feather in his cap

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 3:59:37 2009.

Rajini praises 'nAn kadavuL'

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/rajinikanth-10-02-09.html

did anyone read the letter he has written ?
he did not fail to mention illayaraja also...

Yes, I did. How come anyone say a few words about this movie without mentioning Raaja's name? He has written his name all over it.

From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 4:00:10 2009.

They are in some ways even apologetic, in that they come off simply as what the audience wants.

Well I am hearing it is good but not pieced well together. So the question now is how good were the pieces. And those I infer are good.

PR,
Yes, that's quite like it. I thought it wasn't put together very well. Also, there was some sort of 'indifference' to their staging, especially with the penultimate fight sequence. It comes abruptly in the film. It's not like Bala wanted to elide it either, because in itself, it's a full-blown action sequence.

From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 4:06:37 2009.

equa - that 'coming abruptly' is coz of edit after censor cuts i presume

the dialogues muted of father to arya's mom abt wht he was doing/what arya did to the mallu guy/and even the climax is understandable. but even madha un kovil song??? wonder what bala showed during that song

From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 10 4:06:49 2009.

Rajini praises 'nAn kadavuL'

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/rajinikanth-10-02-09.html

did anyone read the letter he has written ?
he did not fail to mention illayaraja also...

Yes, I did. How come anyone say a few words about this movie without mentioning Raaja's name? He has written his name all over it.

now this would increase the interest in thalaivar fans to watch this movie....

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 4:10:09 2009.

Who is this guy? the stunt master super subbarayan?

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/gallery/m/Events/rajini_nk100209/449880.html
From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 4:11:46 2009.

SoftSword wrote:

now this would increase the interest in thalaivar fans to watch this movie....

May be. I think no one in the industry will dismiss this film. I am also looking forward to what Kamal, Balu Mahendra say about this film
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 4:15:05 2009.

Kalyasi wrote:

joe wrote:

Nerd wrote:

I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.

Same here

Same Here...

Kooditte dhaan pogudhu, koranja paadilla

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 4:19:21 2009.

I too thought it was very abrupt while watching it for the first time. Athukku oru periya build-up ellam kodukka vaendAmnnu mudivu panni irukaar Bala. Court scene mudinju, thavam panra scene thodanga, flash back'la 'thushta nigraha'va kaamikiraar.

We are becoming too alienated to whatever happens on the screen then after. most people become indifferent to the sequences happening. There was no uproar this time from the audience as there was when 'Naayar' gets thrashed.
It was like Bala Telling us 'po po poikittae iru, ini ruthranukkum-avan panrathukkum-unakkum entha sambathamum illa' After multiple viewings I think it was purposefully made that way.

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 4:20:37 2009.

I also thought the stunts had the Stun Siva signature...

From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 4:21:15 2009.

equa - that 'coming abruptly' is coz of edit after censor cuts i presume

the dialogues muted of father to arya's mom abt wht he was doing/what arya did to the mallu guy/and even the climax is understandable. but even madha un kovil song??? wonder what bala showed during that song Confused

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.

On the fight sequence itself, I'm not sure what could have been there in the lead-up to the fight that the censors cut. Actually I think Bala was on to something else there. I actually feel he did originally want to elide Rudran's finale with Thandavan (by being suggestive about it), but eventually inserted a fight sequence.

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 4:21:33 2009.

I still can't get over the film and its been 48 hours.

Same here

Same Here...

Kooditte dhaan pogudhu, koranja paadilla

Naan veliya irunthu objective'a paarkka aarambichachu

innum rendu thadava paarunga naan solrathu puriyum!

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 4:24:31 2009.

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

Nalla English allathu tamizh please

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 4:25:59 2009.

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

idha thaan naan KArthi-oda deep-a discuss pannitrundhen.

Like i asked earlier, "why Naan KAdavul"?, what are the implications and equation of the relationship between Arya and them?

Seriously, i'm waiting for your blog post and reviews of PR, Compli etc. People who know all four things...

<Dig>
P.S: Munnadiellam i was cynical about crticis, reviews, either you get it while you watch it or you don't, no interference between maker and watcher etc...
You guys are doing a great job

</Dig>

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 10 4:34:53 2009.

equanimus wrote:

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.

court scene mudinjadhum, veliya car'la thaandavam nagaththa kadichchukkittEy wait pannittiruppaar..... then there is cut.... uchchi-malai-koyil'la sanda any link is there between court and uchchi-malai-kOyil ...
and... anga vella colour satta...inga bare-udambu

wt happens after Sister's aarudhal vaarthai near church ... immediately she is in the custody of Thaandavam

so many questions....
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 4:37:56 2009.

Rajini's letter nalla irukku
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 4:38:09 2009.

Sarna,
Jump-cuts, flash-forwards, flash-backs...
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 4:43:17 2009.

equanimus wrote:

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.
true but i dont think the last 10-15 minutes what appears in the film was how bala had it in mind. looks like he gave in to censor - even from what little we've seen of Bala, this aint a complete product.

like CR said, eagerly awaiting our hub makkal posts

From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 10 4:57:48 2009.

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.

court scene mudinjadhum, veliya car'la thaandavam nagaththa kadichchukkittEy wait pannittiruppaar..... then there is cut.... uchchi-malai-koyil'la sanda Confused

any link is there between court and uchchi-malai-kOyil ...
and... anga vella colour satta...inga bare-udambu Confused2

wt happens after Sister's aarudhal vaarthai near church Confused

... immediately she is in the custody of Thaandavam Huh?!

so many questions.... Rolling Eyes

Its understood that Thandavan follows him to the Malai Kovil and the fight begins there, when the fight begins Thandavan is wearing his trademark White Shirt and later on Rudran rips it apart....

Pooja wud have been found @ the church premises by Thandavan's men and wud have been brought to Thandavan's place....Its understood... atha kaati bore adika vendame nu nenachu irupaar bala..... I feel that there wud not have been any censor cuts here.... If at all it might have been the killing and eating of the malayalee broker....

From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 10 5:05:39 2009.

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.

true

but i dont think the last 10-15 minutes what appears in the film was how bala had it in mind. looks like he gave in to censor - even from what little we've seen of Bala, this aint a complete product.

like CR said, eagerly awaiting our hub makkal posts

I still feel that these scenes wud have been edited by Bala himself - he wud have felt that these scenes might not be necessary and if removed its not going to affect the flow of the movie by any means...........

From: PoonaiKutty on Tue Feb 10 5:05:40 2009.

Pooja wud have been found @ the church premises by Thandavan's men and wud have been brought to Thandavan's place....Its understood... atha kaati bore adika vendame nu nenachu irupaar bala..... I feel that there wud not have been any censor cuts here.... If at all it might have been the killing and eating of the malayalee broker....

I guess this woud have happened during the 'Matha Un Koyilil' song but later edited considering movie's length .. jsu guessing ... don thnk censor wud have cut anything here.

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Feb 10 5:13:32 2009.

Ennanmo solreengale...naan padam paathagunume! 3 more days-a...Oh kaaaad!!

From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 10 5:20:10 2009.

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

</Dig>

While watching the movie I felt that there is no way for these beggars to escape from the clutches of guys like Thandavan... I felt that god cud take them back to his place or prevent them from being born on earth....

Thats what Pooja asks to Arya in Climax..."innikku ivanaga illana nalaikku vera yaravathu vanthu engala thookittu poiruvaanga... ennaku intha vaazhkaye vendaam, thayavu seithu enakku maru piravi yum illatha maadri senjudunga" not exactly the same words

Since Arya addresses himself as Kaala Bhairavan his job is to ensure that they are no more living and there is no re-birth for them....

The god who has to do this doesn't do it... Since Arya does it he calls himself as god....so the title is justified...

Its only the case of pooja bcoz she is blind, has no one to take care of her all the time and has no way of escaping from these elements....

This is what I thought while I was watching the movie and it ended the same way so it appealed to me more....

From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 5:20:30 2009.

RS, try this for single word -m name - Rajam(As in M.N.)
(Just an example - mathabadi your discussion on grammatical stuff goes above my head)
From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 5:31:07 2009.

Plum wrote:

RS, try this for single word -m name - Rajam(As in M.N.)
(Just an example - mathabadi your discussion on grammatical stuff goes above my head)

Rajam - Pen pAl thaane appadi thaan varum, 'in' viguthi(Sarithaane!) is always used for 'males'. the example I had given earlier like 'Agilam' can be used for females for sure, but when its for male it should become 'Agilan'.

Grammar naanum weak thaanungO, romba naal enakku verb'kkum noun'ukkume vithyasam theriyaama irunthathu (Ippa mattum therinjuduchannu kaetkaathinga )
From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 5:39:04 2009.

oh sorry I didnt explain myself clearly - Rajam is actually the name of the male protagonist in one of RK Narayan's novels .
We have lost a lot from the old days - ippollam Vishal, Rahul, Shreyas-nu dhaan peru vekkaranga. Indha n, m difference ellam innum ennatha discuss pannikittu
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 5:40:05 2009.

Plum wrote:

We have lost a lot from the old days - ippollam Vishal, Rahul, Shreyas-nu dhaan peru vekkaranga. Indha n, m difference ellam innum ennatha discuss pannikittu

at the short N.I names and 'sh' culture
From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 5:46:43 2009.

CR, enakku avlo feeling illai idhile aanal(note the junoon tamil here :- ) )
This too shall pass
From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 5:47:52 2009.

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From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 5:52:14 2009.

>digr.> Plum, pass ellAm aagaadhu. oru sila peyargaL kANAmalE pOyikittu irukku. innum konja naaL-la ellArum David Boon dhaan</digr.<

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Feb 10 5:56:28 2009.

We have lost a lot from the old days - ippollam Vishal, Rahul, Shreyas-nu dhaan peru vekkaranga. Indha n, m difference ellam innum ennatha discuss pannikittu Smile

at the short N.I names and 'sh' culture

One of my relative named his girl as 'Oona', adhukku wonaan-nu vachrukalam!

From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 5:59:13 2009.

PR, I know a John Kennedy, seriously
Correct dhaan, already there are david boons and michael clarkes in some call centers I think
But then how many of us would have appreciated if we were called Kunjithapadham or Kundalakesi? School-la peer pasangallam pichu eduthurkka maattanga?
No more digressions from me

From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 5:59:18 2009.

Directhit,
I seriously doubt if all these were cut by the censor board. People are effectively blaming the censor board for everything that they didn't find in the film.

true

but i dont think the last 10-15 minutes what appears in the film was how bala had it in mind. looks like he gave in to censor - even from what little we've seen of Bala, this aint a complete product.

Directhit,
As I already said, I certainly think Bala wanted to be suggestive about some of the consequences (as against show them) with respect to Thandavan. What I am trying to find out is, why that fight sequence? For Bala's standards, it's rather unremarkably done. We see the injured Rudran and Bala cuts to the fight with a hazy vision of Thandavan. This provides the sequence a mythical aura (a la the proverbial "good vs. evil" battle), but it was all a bit hurried up.

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 10 6:01:08 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Sarna,
Jump-cuts, flash-forwards, flash-backs...

neenga sonna moonumE AlaipaayudhE, Virumaandi pOndra padangal'la irukku, but I feel some continuity missing in this movie ungalukku appadi illayaa
From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 6:03:32 2009.

<Deleted for duplicity>

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 10 6:05:30 2009.

or is Bala trying some new type of story telling as Equa(Srihari) mentioned earlier

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 10 6:10:22 2009.

I felt like watching a fight sequence in Jute wr srikanth suddenly comes running from nowhere and saves meera-jasmine's maanam

same hazy vision

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 6:10:52 2009.

இந்த படம் பிச்சைக்காரர்கள் பற்றிய சிந்தனையை மட்டும் தூண்டி விடவில்லை ..தமிழ் இலக்கணம் ,பெயர் சூட்டுதல் இப்படி பல கோணங்களில் ...

(ippadi ethaiyavathu solli NK effect-layirunthu innikuLLavavathu veLiya vara mudiyumaannu paakkuren )
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 6:17:32 2009.

I feel ,in between the scene a Nun preaching to Amsavalli and the scene Thandavan get hold of Amsavalli ,some scences of amsavalli converted to christianity ,i assume ,has been cut or edited by Bala himself ..when Thandavan handling amsavalli ,she speaks many verses from Bible .

veena matha pirachanaiya undu panna venamnu vettirukkalam. athu kooda sernthu 'Maatha un kovilil' song-m cut aayirukkum.

From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 10 6:34:51 2009.

I feel ,in between the scene a Nun preaching to Amsavalli and the scene Thandavan get hold of Amsavalli ,some scences of amsavalli converted to christianity ,i assume ,has been cut or edited by Bala himself ..when Thandavan handling amsavalli ,she speaks many verses from Bible .

veena matha pirachanaiya undu panna venamnu vettirukkalam. Wink

athu kooda sernthu 'Maatha un kovilil' song-m cut aayirukkum. Rolling Eyes

Joe Amsavalli repeats the phrases which the Nun had preached her...thats it/// It goes like "Naaigal nammai soozhnthirikirathu"

From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 6:36:28 2009.

Plum/Bala, taking the discussion here.
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Tue Feb 10 6:47:09 2009.

Rajnikanth blown away by Naan Kadavul

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2009/feb/10rajnikanth-blown-away-by-naan-kadavul.htm

From: Hulkster on Tue Feb 10 7:08:13 2009.

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

</Dig>

and add to that the initial scenes when the saamiyar without hands and legs tells Pooja that he is god and only he can give moksham was another clue.

From: crvenky on Tue Feb 10 8:12:27 2009.

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From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 8:26:13 2009.

ennappA ithu athukkuLLa cam-rip links-A?
From: Anban on Tue Feb 10 8:26:59 2009.

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From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 8:31:28 2009.

padam pAkka ishtam illainA pAkka vEndAm. AnA intha padaththai theater pOi pAkkAma cam-rip/thrittu DVD-la pArkkum makkaLukku 'thAndavan' evvaLavO nallavan.
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Tue Feb 10 8:41:07 2009.

crvenky, delete ur post, b4 MODs do that...
From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 8:52:35 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

pavee rajasaranam.
nadaththu.
un kaattil adai mazhai dhaan po.
innum dharisanam kidaikkaadha ennai pondrorukku, kadavul enna karunai kaatuvaaro theriyalai.

how far is ur place from Dallas ? maybe u cud drive over and watch this weekend

From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 9:15:50 2009.

Correct dhaan, already there are david boons and michael clarkes in some call centers I think Smile

PR, I know a John Kennedy, seriously Smile

But then how many of us would have appreciated if we were called Kunjithapadham or Kundalakesi? School-la peer pasangallam pichu eduthurkka maattanga?
No more digressions from me

only one gentleman has the authority/intellectual property rights over calling himself 'kundalakesi' - thats annan anja singam Goundamani!

From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 9:18:42 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

padam pAkka ishtam illainA pAkka vEndAm. AnA intha padaththai theater pOi pAkkAma cam-rip/thrittu DVD-la pArkkum makkaLukku 'thAndavan' evvaLavO nallavan.

appadi podunga! thiruttu DVDil padam paakaradhukku pitchai eduppadhey mael
From: Plum on Tue Feb 10 9:20:11 2009.

irir - . Endha padam adhu (kundalakesi)
From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 9:24:16 2009.

Plum,

Oru karthick padam. Both would have gone for a marriage and he sees a a girl and asks 'wats your name ya' she replies ' Mandhakini' for which annan says 'hey, Iam kundalakesi'
From: steveaustin on Tue Feb 10 9:29:08 2009.

unakkAga ellAm unakkAga.
From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 9:33:20 2009.

'Nan Kadavul' - perhaps its a reference to a higher state of consciousness where one becomes one with Brahma/Para-brahmam - in metaphysical terms, pindam (earthly existence), andam (the in-between existence, akin to comatose condition of most people deep in meditation) and brahmand(am)(super consciousness state), where one feels neither pain nor pleasure - in classic spiritual terms, that is meant to happen when one has mastered the art of withdrawing the spirit current from the six apertures in the human physical (pind) self, turning it inwards and upwards - the 'pindam' word in 'Bitchai paathiram' song refers to the 'pind' as in earthly existence (the word is used by sufi saints as well - the Biblical equivalent would probably be the 'dust to dust' aspect of one's existence)

Neither does Rudran feel pain nor pleasure - mutrilum thurandhavan - he is only obliging the prayers of the blind girl - one can interpret it this way: for those who have taken the extreme thuravaram path, birth and death are trivial, therefore Rudran gives 'extreme' relief as 'bithchai' to a pithchaikari - perhaps the most valuable 'bitchai' as far as her conditions demand for her in that state/condition!

another way to look at it since she gets spiritual advice by a nun - her conditions of suffering reach their zenith with her getting mauled by Thandavam after reciting what the nun tells her - right after the mauling, she seeks the complete relief, from Rudhran! she is just human after all, but is Bala drawing a parallel to what happened to someone 2000 years ago ?

on the same token, what does he 'give' when he kills the baddies ? moksham as well ? thats a moot point for pondering - its thats conceptual part that am not able to relate to
From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 10:23:45 2009.

irir,

The baddies will once again get into the cycle of birth-death! That is why he says 'Vaazha koodathavangalukku naan thara maranam saabam, vaazha mudiyathvangalukku naan than maranam varam'.
From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 10:26:11 2009.

rajasaranam - makes sense now - thx - however, it raises another question (unrelated to the film of course) - if one goes by that logic, the 'baddies' after getting killed will get another birth, and perhaps be born as a beggar ?! suffering the same way as their victims did in their hands ? does that mean that the beggars are probably suffering for their 'karma' in another life, and hence been given such a lowly birth to suffer at the hands of Thandavam and co for their 'sins' ? does that mean the one character Hamsavalli was allowed to be relieved off her sufferings, coz Rudran recognised her as a special case amongst the other beggars ?

Indian mysticism is full of such inexplicable contradictions!

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 10 10:35:41 2009.

and add to that the initial scenes when the saamiyar without hands and legs tells Pooja that he is god and only he can give moksham was another clue.

I think Arya's character and what Arya really is, was explained at least thrice (by words) in the movie. The broken-tamizh dude explains that to his dad, Aghoribaba (is he the *real* one?) tells Arya what he must do and when he must come back, then later in the film Arya himself tells what he is in one of those ganja sessions (With the sleeping *saami* eavesdropping) and in the final scene the aghoribaba-thingi is repeated again (which I hated, puriyudhu bala, yEn thirumba thirumba

)

I read in one of the reviews that Bala is supporting genocide of beggars. Well, Pooja comes and asks him (the GOD) and the God obliges.

From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 10:35:51 2009.

irir,

I liked ur write-up. Very first write up, which kindles a sutble desire from my part to watch the movie.
From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 10:41:45 2009.

Shakthiprabha - after a lonnnng time, a Tamil film that really touched a chord in me! well tats an understatement actually - to not get bombarded by a range of emotions by this film, one has to be a thuravi like Rudhran!
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 10:44:45 2009.

Nerd wrote:

I read in one of the reviews that Bala is supporting genocide of beggars.

i remember reading in a blog that pooja goes to church and still is not able to escape from villain and only hindu god arya was able to give her motcham and thereby Bala/Jayamohan is RSS
all these reviewers shud be admitted in thandavan & co.
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 10:52:04 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

irir,

I liked ur write-up. Very first write up, which kindles a sutble desire from my part to watch the movie.

SP,
Given your aversion to dark themes and disturbing movies (i take it that its not necessarily because you think the movies are bad), i would urge you to be sufficiently warned. You ain't seen anything like this.
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 10:56:41 2009.

SP, nyAyappadi unga area-la padam release AyirundhA neenga veettai maaththuradhai paththi yOsikkaNum. Naan pAththa sample range-E appidi.

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 10 10:58:56 2009.

rajasaranam - makes sense now - thx - however, it raises another question (unrelated to the film of course) - if one goes by that logic, the 'baddies' after getting killed will get another birth, and perhaps be born as a beggar ?! suffering the same way as their victims did in their hands ? does that mean that the beggars are probably suffering for their 'karma' in another life, and hence been given such a lowly birth to suffer at the hands of Thandavam and co for their 'sins' ? does that mean the one character Hamsavalli was allowed to be relieved off her sufferings, coz Rudran recognised her as a special case amongst the other beggars ?

Indian mysticism is full of such inexplicable contradictions!

Athey Athey... But this re-birth and stopping the cycle of birth-death was central to all the philosophies. Why nobody questioned it (Apart from Atheists) is a question pondering in my mind for a long time.
This arises from the fact seen by the then mystics that 'Human life is a suffering'. Wasn't there even a single mystic, one who saw the 'human life was abundantly rich and colorful?' Yes there was the modern day 'OSHO' who saw it this way but he too believed in 'Birth-death Cycle and getting out of it'.If he saw human life is rich and merry why the hell he wants to get out of it. Had I been a Mystic who believed in this 'Cycle' I would have preached 'Machaan ithey maathiri kudiyum koothum kummalamumma irukanumnna, matha manithargalukku thunbam tharama iru, romba kashtama irukkum but try pannalaam. appathaan adutha life eduthu vanthu ragalayaa vazhalaam

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 10 11:02:26 2009.

I read in one of the reviews that Bala is supporting genocide of beggars.

i remember reading in a blog that pooja goes to church and still is not able to escape from villain and only hindu god arya was able to give her motcham and thereby Bala/Jayamohan is RSS LOL

all these reviewers shud be admitted in thandavan & co.

Perhaps that's one of the reasons Bala decided to remove those scenes which I m 100% sure he shot!! OTOH I think the abruptness in the rudrathaandavam was intentional

Naan innum andha periyavar (kavingar vikramadhithan) pEsura vasanathukku yaarum case pOdaliyEnu think pannittu irukEn..

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:03:10 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

SP, nyAyappadi unga area-la padam release AyirundhA neenga veettai maaththuradhai paththi yOsikkaNum. Naan pAththa sample range-E appidi.
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:05:10 2009.

DH,
Jayamohan RSS sympathiser-ngrathu ooraLuvu unmai thaan ..But Bala-kku kadavuL nampikkaiye kidayathu.

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 11:05:25 2009.

padam pAkka ishtam illainA pAkka vEndAm. AnA intha padaththai theater pOi pAkkAma cam-rip/thrittu DVD-la pArkkum makkaLukku 'thAndavan' evvaLavO nallavan.

appadi podunga! thiruttu DVDil padam paakaradhukku pitchai eduppadhey mael

appuram ennanga ivvaLavu kashtappattu padam eduththuttu intha mAthiri thiruttuthanamA pAththa manushanukku kOvam varumA varaathA. padaththa upload paNNavanna nallA thittanum pOla irukku.

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:07:46 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Naan innum andha periyavar (kavingar vikramadhithan) pEsura vasanathukku yaarum case pOdaliyEnu think pannittu irukEn..

Ange thaan safe-a 'kadavul'-nnu pothuva solli thappichuttanga ..Agilandeswari Allah Jesus -nnu kuRipittu sollathathaala ellorum namma kadavuLa sollala-nnu samaLichikiRanga pola
From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 11:08:16 2009.

Ennanga, elaarum ipdi bayamuruthareenga

Generally love tragedies disturb me quite a lot (than other tragedies). As for the gori themes and cannibalism shown as raw as it could be, I think I very well understand whats in store.

Even then, I better wait for the movie to be telecasted years later in tv, where I can switch channels, wherever my timid or fragile heart wont take it.
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 11:09:03 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Naan innum andha periyavar (kavingar vikramadhithan) pEsura vasanathukku yaarum case pOdaliyEnu think pannittu irukEn..
Nerd - publicity kaaga case podara kazhudhaigal ne oru vasanam vachaare, kettu thirundhittangalo ennamo

Joe
From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 11:10:37 2009.

SP akka - sample kku neenga indha paatu pakalaam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvxFhDbCa0
From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 11:11:46 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

As for the gori themes and cannibalism shown as raw as it could be, I think I very well understand whats in store.

We weren't referring to that at all, SP. In fact, censor board dhaan andha madhiri onnum illama senjiduche...
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:12:41 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

Even then, I better wait for the movie to be telecasted years later in tv, where I can switch channels, wherever my timid or fragile heart wont take it.

Neenga pesama vasanam gramaphone record vantha athai mattum keLunga
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 10 11:14:46 2009.

There is not even a hint of louu in this film
We used to have a thread which listed such movies (mainstream). 5-6 padathukku mEla thEravillai
From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 11:18:32 2009.

Kalyasi, Hulkster and others,
Like Nerd mentioned, Arya expounds most of these things himself in the film. The question is what are Bala's artistic choices in showing these things. What does Rudran's complete indifference mean to the world that Bala depicts in the film? Rudran of course says that the he finishes off the "vAzha mudiyAdhavargaL" and gives them mOksham, etc. But what does it mean for the film? He happens to kill off Thandavan and "give mOksham" Amsavalli when she asks for it. But what to make of all this? Why close off at this point? Some of the choices that Bala makes in these respects (as I understand them) are not startlingly remarkable.

Rajasaranam,
Sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear. inga niRaiya kELvigaL kEttirukkEn.
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 10 11:20:36 2009.

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14854152&cid=13525926

Hype helps for the first few days...

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 11:23:19 2009.

The relationship between Arya (Naan Kadavul) and the beggars (other than Pooja) - what exactly is that? What are the implications?

Is it just a question of the Arya-Pooja thing? idhukku thaana? Thirupthi illai. engeyo reconcile aaga mattengudhu. Incomeplete

More important question for me is how meaningfully does Rudran's perfect indifference rub off on the lives of the group of beggars. That's what I'm chewing over for the past few days.

From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 11:24:28 2009.

nice

Quote:

http://synapse-junctionofthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 11:25:18 2009.

As for the gori themes and cannibalism shown as raw as it could be, I think I very well understand whats in store.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

We weren't referring to that at all, SP. In fact, censor board dhaan andha madhiri onnum illama senjiduche... Smile

adada

From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 11:25:38 2009.

Even then, I better wait for the movie to be telecasted years later in tv, where I can switch channels, wherever my timid or fragile heart wont take it. Embarassed

Shakthiprabha wrote:

Neenga pesama vasanam gramaphone record vantha athai mattum keLunga Laughing

Good one

btw, is the movie rated "A" ?

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 11:27:16 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

Good one

btw, is the movie rated "A" ?

U/A

Pillaingaloda parents paakkalaamaam
From: cuty2sweety on Tue Feb 10 11:27:21 2009.

Happened to catch the movie y'day
I just loved the movie
Arya did not have anything to do
Pooja n the other actors were AWESOME
But I dont think I will able to watch the movie again
Bala-Gr8 effort
From: girirajnet on Tue Feb 10 11:28:20 2009.

Here is my Naan Kadavul review

http://girirajnet.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_09.html
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 10 11:30:21 2009.

One of arya's principles is: vAzha mudiyaadhavargaLukku naan tharum varam, maraNam. The best examples of vaazha mudiyaadhavargaL are those eenappiRavigaL. That's the connection I believe. But I don't get the *principle* behind killing those evil men. General principle may be
From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:35:42 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Pillaingaloda parents paakkalaamaam

ithula ethavathu ULkuthu irukka ?

Singapore-la thoogura piLlaiya kooda allow panna mattenuttanga

From: directhit on Tue Feb 10 11:36:51 2009.

joe - UT blocked at aapees. vootukku poi parkaren. which song is this? i saw pitchaipathiram the two days back - it was same

Pichai paathiram song thaan.
Later part varra sila visuals naan theatre-la paakkatha maathiri irukku Wink

i saw this

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:37:49 2009.

girirajnet wrote:

Here is my Naan Kadavul review

http://girirajnet.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post_09.html

Vaanga Giri!

YeRkanave padichitten ..Nalla ezhuthiyirukeenga.

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 11:39:22 2009.

joe - UT blocked at aapees. vootukku poi parkaren. which song is this? i saw pitchaipathiram the two days back - it was same

Pichai paathiram song thaan.
Later part varra sila visuals naan theatre-la paakkatha maathiri irukku Wink

i saw this Confused

oh!ok.

May be naan first half effect-la irunthu meeLamalaye second half paathirukken pola.

From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 12:34:30 2009.

directhit wrote:

SP akka - sample kku neenga indha paatu pakalaam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvxFhDbCa0

ithu thaan sample - a
paarthen.

From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 10 13:05:45 2009.

pavee rajasaranam.
nadaththu.
un kaattil adai mazhai dhaan po.
innum dharisanam kidaikkaadha ennai pondrorukku, kadavul enna karunai kaatuvaaro theriyalai.

how far is ur place from Dallas ? maybe u cud drive over and watch this weekend

only 360 miles.
kandippa indha weekend mela ennaal thaangaadhunnu ninakkaren.
My Passion for cinema.
BTW. In PFC all authors who have seen this movie (from diff states) are spell bound and are finding it difficult to come out of the impact.
Some aspiring dirs are cursing Bala for having made a movie that is so difficult to envision and make. The method behind Bala's madness is definitely irreplicable as Rajini has mentioned in the letter.
nijamaave Bala oru 'suyambu'. Avar than poakkil innum niraya padangal seidhu konde irukkanum!!
Ashte!

From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 10 13:55:07 2009.

irir,

The baddies will once again get into the cycle of birth-death! That is why he says 'Vaazha koodathavangalukku naan thara maranam saabam, vaazha mudiyathvangalukku naan than maranam varam'.

Do you really think that is the truth?? No way, I see it in a different way. Bala has this Rudhran character to symbolise Death. It doesn't matter who he/she is, baddie or beggar, everyone has to face it. For a person who longs to be dead, it is freedom, for others (like thAndavan who controls/has everything they want) who love to live more, it is a punishment. I think Bala has reverse engineered this and molded the Rudhran character around that concept. Rudhran's chants and his activities are just to give the character some authencity, nothing more.

From: njv on Tue Feb 10 14:02:56 2009.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother?? Confused

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

yes, so he (malayalee broker) dont have to spend 25000 for getting another child to beg.

From: njv on Tue Feb 10 14:04:27 2009.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother?? Confused

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

She goes and try to convince arya again in the mountain. he ask her "nee suththamaanavala" - means she slept with someone else as well, so she just quitely return back and tell her daughter that her brother is a suyambu.

Many scenes like this were cut short with 1 sentence.

From: njv on Tue Feb 10 14:07:42 2009.

Here also its 2:15 only. In Kasi, as part of Shiva Om song, he fights and gets a dead body that their relative are about to cremate and he cremate himself and do thapas opposite to it to give this person moksha.

From: njv on Tue Feb 10 14:14:37 2009.

From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 16:10:57 2009.

From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 14:54:12 2009.

naaLaikku oru aaL noon show
From: Shakthiprabha on Tue Feb 10 14:58:19 2009.

http://minminipoochchigal.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

my blog post directed to director-bala.

I am sure everybody here knows what to expect out of me
From: complicateur on Tue Feb 10 14:58:22 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

naaLaikku oru aaL noon show

nInga yAra solrInga?
From: bimmer on Tue Feb 10 15:20:03 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் என அடம்பிடித்து, அதனை ஆராய்ந்து அதன் நெளிவு சுளிவுகளை மனசில் வாங்கி, அடி வாங்கிய நாணயத்தின் மன நிலையை படம் பிடிப்பது மட்டுமே என் முழு நேர இயக்குனர் பணி என்று முடிவெடுத்திருக்கிறாரா? இந்த முடிவு அவரை எங்கு கொண்டு போகுமோ?! (national award? well I wish with all my heart it does, it should and given all his devotion, Unmai

இப்படிப் பட்ட படங்கள் மட்டுமே சாதிக்க முடியும்। இதைச் செய்தால்தான் நான் சாதனையாளன் வரிசையில் இடம் பெறூவேன். இப்படி படம் இயக்கினால் தான் நம்மால் முத்திரை பதிக்க முடியும், என்று தன்னைச் சுற்றி குறுகிய வட்டம் வரைந்திருக்கிறார் பாலா

This is a very outspoken true review..About Bala and NK..Bala always potrays only the Dark-side...His future as a director will also be dark..but what else can you expect from this Drug-Addict Physco...
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 15:23:44 2009.

complicateur wrote:

nInga yAra solrInga?
kudhirukkuLLa thaan irukkeengaLA.
From: equanimus on Tue Feb 10 15:24:18 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

complicateur wrote:

nInga yAra solrInga?
kudhirukkuLLa thaan irukkeengaLA.

adhu nIr illaiyA?
From: complicateur on Tue Feb 10 15:28:36 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

complicateur wrote:

nInga yAra solrInga?
kudhirukkuLLa thaan irukkeengaLA.

Noon show-nu sonnathA-la summA kEttEn...
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 10 15:29:25 2009.

equanimus wrote:

Prabhu Ram wrote:

complicateur wrote:

nInga yAra solrInga?
kudhirukkuLLa thaan irukkeengaLA.

adhu nIr illaiyA?

நான் இன்னும் "பண்டைக் கதை பேணி"க்கொண்டிருக்கும் சாதாரணன்.

Next oasis 3 days away...but not in town this weekend....remba postpone aagudhu

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

என அடம்பிடித்து, அதனை ஆராய்ந்து அதன் நெளிவு சுளிவுகளை மனசில் வாங்கி, அடி வாங்கிய நாணயத்தின் மன நிலையை படம் பிடிப்பது மட்டுமே என் முழு நேர இயக்குனர் பணி என்று முடிவெடுத்திருக்கிறாரா? இந்த முடிவு அவரை எங்கு கொண்டு போகுமோ?! (national award? well I wish with all my heart it does, it should and given all his devotion, Unmai

இப்படிப் பட்ட படங்கள் மட்டுமே சாதிக்க முடியும்। இதைச் செய்தால்தான் நான் சாதனையாளன் வரிசையில் இடம் பெறூவேன். இப்படி படம் இயக்கினால் தான் நம்மால் முத்திரை பதிக்க முடியும், என்று தன்னைச் சுற்றி குறுகிய வட்டம் வரைந்திருக்கிறார் பாலா
Exactly

This is a very outspoken true review..About Bala and NK..Bala always potrays only the Dark-side...His future as a director will also be dark..but what else can you expect from this Drug-Addict Physco...

every genuine filmmaker has a certain conviction that drives him/her - Bala does seem to have a certain conviction about what he wants and how he portrays what he wants, unlike certain other highly educated directors who make plastic films that are anything but convincing!

whichever way one looks at it, NK carries Bala's conviction - though in the oveall picture, the idea of using aghori sadhus and linking them with the beggars mafia does not connect - unless of course, there is some symbolism at work here that links kasi sadhus and the malaikoyil beggars - perhaps Bala is equating the ketpaaratru yeriyum anaadhai pinams of kasi with the kodoora thandavam kaiyyil ketpaaratru sikki thavikkum anaadhai pitchaikaarargal ?? perhaps the aghori Rudran is the common denominator that links/connects the two geographically distinct groups, one living a life devoid of any semblance of dignity whatsoever and wishing they were dead, while the other is already dead ??

NK for me, should be seen as a movie not in anyway connected/to with any of his earlier movies - just thinking of beggars thronging our holy places (many of them, sites of archaelogical importance, such as Madurai meenakshi temple!) used to make me squirm earlier, but after NK, am convinced of our collective ignominy as a society!

there cannot be anything more hypocritical than denying the harsh reality shown in the movie - will anyone here in the hub, having watched the film, ever look at another beggar in a temple or a public place, without thinking, who/which gang do they belong to ?? At least I wont!

will this attempt bring a change in their lives with someone in the govt taking legal action against such mafias ?? I doubt if it will ever happen, knowing well how things work in India

but, despite the fact that the quality of art as a means of communication is highly subjective, Bala has put in an outstanding effort to do something that convinced him - and from the looks of it, he doesnt seem to have made this film with the intention of making some money out of the plight of beggars!

show me how many filmmakers in Tamil Nadu today make sensible films ?? how long can the public be asked to put up with the nayantaras doing belly shake dances and every other new face yearning to have a superstar status without doing anything or aping established actors (both of which have been so beautifully parodied in one extended scene, and that too, by the beggars!)

kurai solvadharkkendrey yedhaiyaavadhu sollakkoodadhu!

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 10 16:14:21 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

OK, Bala shall be informed. Thanks!

From: app_engine on Tue Feb 10 17:44:03 2009.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_Buzz/God_of_small_things/articleshow/4105699.cms

Quite interesting!
From this interview :

Quote:

At the audio launch of the film, Mani Ratnam had said that he was Bala�s fan. Is that the best compliment he�s received? �He�s my role model,� stresses Bala, �There are so many things that I would like to talk to him about, but don�t know how to put across.�

From: bimmer on Tue Feb 10 20:14:53 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

Yethayavadhu sollala..

en neenga nayanthara attuna pakkamatingala...

Your view is different from mine. I donot see anything different but a pathetic depiction of Poor Beggers..

BTW I have spent my time and money watching this movie, I do think I can express my views...Am I not supposed to..

kurai solvadharkkendrey yedhaiyaavadhu sollakkoodadhu![/quote]

Bayangara sarcastic sir neenga!!!!

From: bimmer on Tue Feb 10 20:16:06 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

OK, Bala shall be informed. Thanks!

Neengathana athu....Sollave illa

From: irir123 on Tue Feb 10 20:31:22 2009.

bimmer - ok you have a right to criticize - am not denying that - and to be honest with you, I dont watch Nayanthara adara type movies - in fact, am scared to watch a Tamil film after enduring some Simbu movie 2 years ago! never again!

for me films like Anjaathey, NK are whiffs of fresh air and I welcome them

From: A.ANAND on Tue Feb 10 23:17:19 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

simple and powerfull comment!

From: Hulkster on Tue Feb 10 23:30:03 2009.

Kalyasi, Hulkster and others,
Like Nerd mentioned, Arya expounds most of these things himself in the film. The question is what are Bala's artistic choices in showing these things. What does Rudran's complete indifference mean to the world that Bala depicts in the film? Rudran of course says that the he finishes off the "vAzha mudiyAdhavargaL" and gives them mOksham, etc. But what does it mean for the film? He happens to kill off Thandavan and "give mOksham" Amsavalli when she asks for it. But what to make of all this? Why close off at this point? Some of the choices that Bala makes in these respects (as I understand them) are not startlingly remarkable.

Rajasaranam,
Sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear. inga niRaiya kELvigaL kEttirukkEn. Smile

Well let me give a try.

I guess Bala is using Arya as a illusion to show his real feelings of what should be done to those who are helpless and those who make use of the helpless. Its also a double meaning character hinting his fustration at GOD wondering if he is listening to such atrocities.

The aghori setup, Arya's character can be interpreted both ways.
One is Arya as GOD himself in how Bala currently thinks of, one who is expressionless yet only listens when the souls are at the "dying" stage and then he relieves them of their pain through death and also eliminates the evil at the end. A GOD that only appears after all has been done which can show criticism of GOD.

Another one is the self-imposed liberator which is like saying only we can solve this problem without expecting GOD to come down. Arya is a human being who has become "one" with GOD and as such, "powerful" as him. Bala's idea could be that calling for a GOD who does not exist will never solve our problems; Why not we become GOD ourselves. The sanskrit verses that Arya recites when Pooja begs at the feet of the handless,legless saamiyaar is an indication.

From: joe on Tue Feb 10 23:34:01 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

என அடம்பிடித்து

துருப்பிடித்த பக்கமா ,அல்லது துருப்பிடிக்காத பளபளப்பான பக்கமா என்பதை விட ,எந்த பக்கமாக இருந்தாலும் யார் எதார்த்ததின் பக்கம் என்பது தான் முக்கியம்.

அப்படியே பளபளப்பான பக்கங்களை காட்டுவது எதார்த்தமாக இருப்பதாக நீங்கள் நினைத்தாலும் ,அந்த பக்கத்திற்கு ஏகப்பட்ட பேர் இருக்கும் போது பாலாவைப் போல ஒரு சிலர் மறுபக்கத்தில் இருப்பதால் என்ன குறைந்து போய் விட்டது?

மேலும் நாணயத்தின் ஒரு பக்கம் பளபளப்பாகவே இருந்தாலும் ,மறுபக்கம் கவனிக்காமல் துருப்பிடித்துப் போனால் மொத்த நாணயமும் செல்லாத நாணயமாகி விடும்.

From: raja_fan on Tue Feb 10 23:35:57 2009.

[tscii]
Rajasaranam,

[quote]
This arises from the fact seen by the then mystics that 'Human life is a suffering'. Wasn't there even a single mystic, one who saw the 'human life was abundantly rich and colorful?'
[/quote]

All the mystics did not say that human life is a suffering.

Hinduism views human body as the highest vehicle to reach God or the universal consciousness which is nothing but supreme bliss.
So the aim is to attain that bliss instead of taking rebirth again and again .

Any birth ( not only human ) for that matter was seen as a burden for an individual soul, because it stops you from enjoying that eternal bliss and instead go after transient pleasures, food, responsibilities, grief, disease, old age, separation from loved ones etc etc..

And not all Indian mystics were like what you are thinking.

For example Swami Vivekananda, all through his life took it as a mission to preach that immortal bliss and strength that is inside every soul. For that matter, he did not agree to call humans as sinners as some religions do.

[i]Allow me to call you, brethren, by that sweet name � heirs of immortal bliss � yea, the Hindu refuses to call you sinners. Ye are the Children of God, the sharers of immortal bliss, holy and perfect beings. Ye divinities on earth � sinners! It is a sin to call a man so; it is a standing libel on human nature. Come up, O lions, and shake off the delusion that you are sheep; [b]you are souls immortal, spirits free, blest and eternal; ye are not matter, ye are not bodies; matter is your servant, not you the servant of matter.[/[/b]i]

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda/Volume_1/Addresses_at_The_Parliament_of_Religions/Paper_on_Hinduism

I don't want to talk about Osho, as I have different opinion on that man
[/tscii]
From: Hulkster on Tue Feb 10 23:36:52 2009.

Yup exactly, I would not say Naan Kadavul was a dark film. He did show the dark side of a perfect human life but he showed the happiness as well and loads of humour to go with that. So it was not as tragedic or reeking with sudugadu vaasanai as believed.

Actually when you analyse the film it has more humour than disturbing scenes. Quite subtle and catches you in the flow.

From: venkkiram on Tue Feb 10 23:55:33 2009.

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

என அடம்பிடித்து

சரியான பதில் ஜோ.. இதற்கும் மேல் ரொம்ப நாகரிகமா பிம்மரின் பார்வைகளுக்கு பதில் எழுத முடியாது. வாழ்த்துக்கள்!!

பிம்மர் அவர்களே.. உலக சினிமாவில் பல இயக்குனர்கள் தனக்கு தெரிந்த, தனக்குப் பிடித்த விஷயங்களை மட்டுமே தொடர்ந்து படைத்திருக்கிறார்கள். பாலா போல உலக சினிமாவில் இருட்டான உலகத்தை தொடர்ந்து படைத்த படைப்பாளிகள் உண்டு. இதில் என்ன தவறை கண்டுவிட்டீர்கள். நீங்கள் சொன்னாலும் சொல்லாவிட்டாலும் பாலா பாலாதான். அவருடைய படத்தில் லாஜிக் பல இடங்களில் இடித்தாலும், அவர் படைக்கும் காட்சி அமைப்புக்கள் இந்திய சினிமாவில் யாரும் கற்பனை கூட செய்திராத ஒன்று. அந்த வகையான ஆளுமையை பொறுத்தவரையில், இந்திய இயக்குனர்களில் தனக்கென ஒரு மலையுச்சியை கெட்டியாக பிடித்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறார் பாலா. விருதுகளை நம்பி படம் எடுக்கவேண்டும் என பாலா நினைத்திருந்தால், வீடு சந்தியா ராகம் போலவே அவரது குருநாதரை போல படம் எடுத்து, படம் வெளியாகும் முன்பாகவே அப்படியே அவார்டு கமிட்டிக்கு அனுப்பி விருதினை தட்டிச் செல்ல முடியும். ஆனால் நான் கடவுள் படைப்பு படைக்கப்பட்டது நம்மளைப் போன்ற அன்றாட மக்களுக்காக.

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 0:14:56 2009.

venkkiram,
வருக! உங்கள் வரவு நல்வரவாகுக!!
From: MrIndia on Wed Feb 11 0:23:14 2009.

ippellam.. naanayathin pakkathai kaatradhai vida.. nayanthaara matrum namithaa-vin pakkathai kaatuvadhaiye kurikolaaga vaithirukiraargal.
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Feb 11 0:24:10 2009.

Joe, Saattai Adi!
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 0:31:24 2009.

Unwritten legacy in Tamil Cinema :

" Films should depict Hindu saamiyaars only as 'Poli' and 'tricky'. If some one deviates from this and shows them in a dignified manner, then some thing is 'wrong'. He should be a RSS guy "

Ada kadavule
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 11 1:02:04 2009.

@bimmer
neenga avar fanaa.
pazhaya pakkaththai puratti paartha pin therindhadhu.
marumozhiye thevayillaadha idu mozhigal ummudayavai.
ignore listla automatic entry.
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 11 1:22:24 2009.

app_engine wrote:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_Buzz/God_of_small_things/articleshow/4105699.cms

Bala also has a dream project, and that�s a historical subject. �It�ll probably take three years to script and another three years to film,� he smiles.

From: steveaustin on Wed Feb 11 1:22:46 2009.

venkkiram wrote:

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

என அடம்பிடித்து

Joe and Venkki

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 1:30:03 2009.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother?? Confused

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

he does not say தூய்மை
he says this

ஐயிரண்டு திங்களாய் அடங்கிநின்ற தூமையே
கையிரண்டு காலிரண்டு கண்ணிரண்டுமானதே
உயிராவதேதடி உடம்பாவதேதடி
உடம்பால் உயிரெடுத்த உண்மை ஞானி நானடி (a line showing his pride in eating human flesh)

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 1:31:30 2009.

Joe

From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 2:05:46 2009.

Quote:

OMG !!

How can people think and understand like all this ??

That is thoomai, not thooymai.

Even if it is thooymai, will you understand only as "not sleeping with.." etc ???

njv, idhu romba over

From: Nasc on Wed Feb 11 2:10:14 2009.

tht was very hard hitting - the dialogue was that 'she cannot walk, but can give birth'. but i didnt understand wht bala was saying, i mean they'd use that lady as surrogate mother?? Confused

or as what - that dialogue against such a person was shocking, but sariya purinjukka mudeela

thx direct ......
was trying to reason why rudhran was mentioning thoomai/still hvnt understood what he was trying to convey coz read it somewere that thoomai is part of thier rituals

came across this transcript of abc encounter(http://www.abc.net.au/rn/encounter/stories/2006/1782966.htm) with aghori..quite interesting and whats amazing is rudhran fits the bill

btw did nanda's - bagavat geethai session between rajkiran and surya strike a cord to any of u -

From: Nasc on Wed Feb 11 2:16:42 2009.

That is thoomai, not thooymai.

Even if it is thooymai, will you understand only as "not sleeping with.." etc ???

njv, idhu romba over Smile

Quote:

OMG !!

How can people think and understand like all this ?? Sad

njv ,even so,sleeping with someone else etc are outta boundaries of namma kotpadugal

From: Plum on Wed Feb 11 2:20:18 2009.

DIGRESSION
raja_fan - good point. Since Kamal showed nuns as merciful in Anbe Sivam, is he a missionary? Ennappa idhu logic.

Also, RSS is not the sole shareholder of Indian epics, mystique, beliefs, tradition, practices, upanishads, vedas etc. Adhu namma ellorukkum sondham. That old literature might have some thoughts not applicable to current world. Annapparavai maadhirinu thamizhla solvaanga - adhai panna therinja ipdi side katti sandai poda thevai illai.
Bhagvad Gita-la sonnadhu ellam Hindu meladhikka karuthugala? Adhula nalladhu irundha eduthuttu poga vendiyadhu dhaane. Innum oru step mela pona, nalladhu kettadhe geethai define pandradhillai. The beauty about Hinduism is it doesnt recognise any dogma as the central dogma. It encourages debate.

RSS-ai mun vechu, hinduism-ai kurai solradhu romba chinna pullai thanam
END DIGRESSION

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 2:20:33 2009.

Nasc wrote:

thx direct ......
was trying to reason why rudhran was mentioning thoomai/still hvnt understood what he was trying to convey coz read it somewere that thoomai is part of thier rituals

equa and RS had written abt it earlier - http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1683313#1683313

From: sarna_blr on Wed Feb 11 2:25:16 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

http://minminipoochchigal.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

my blog post directed to director-bala.

Neutral

I am sure everybody here knows what to expect out of me Razz

Wt I understood from the movie is

1. Our sympathy on beggers are the cause for their non-stop begging life. So Bala is asking us(viewers or public) to stop showing sympathy over beggers.....

2. Aghori's are NALLAVARGAL FOR NALLAVARGAL, KETTAVARGAL FOR KETTAVARGAL, KODIYAVARGAL FOR KODIYAVARGAL.....

IMHO, Bala uses the cinema for preaching in implicit manner

we need more bala's

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 2:39:24 2009.

Plum wrote:

RSS-ai mun vechu, hinduism-ai kurai solradhu romba chinna pullai thanam

Yes .At the same time ,RSS-ayi kurai sonnal Hinduism-a kurai solvathai eduthukondal athuvum chinna pullai thanam thaan
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 2:42:59 2009.

I heard from my friend that Aghori Sanyasis played a role in fighting against foriegn invaders and Britishers at some point of time in history..

Britishers and foreign media had a big role in preaching that Aghoris were ruthless cannibals and uncultured etc

Will get more details on that and try to post here.

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 2:48:17 2009.

I heard from my friend that Aghori Sanyasis played a role in fighting against foriegn invaders and Britishers at some point of time in history..

Britishers and foreign media had a big role in preaching that Aghoris were ruthless cannibals and uncultured etc

Will get more details on that and try to post here.

Eagerly waiting for it

From: rajasaranam on Wed Feb 11 3:19:04 2009.

Yesterday when i went to the night show in PVR Forum-Blr, There were some IT-Beggers sitting in the back seat and passing lewd comments over the movie from the start. I was enraged and thought of kicking them like 'Rudhran'. Then I thought within myself 'I need not create a unneccessary scene here...Irungadi ungalai ellam 'Bala' innum konja nerathula, Nadu mandailla ongi adichu padathukkulla koottittu poida poraan, apraam Va.Su. mudittu padam paarpeenga' Exactly the same happened after the song 'Bitchai Paathiram' and then onwards...the whole theater was silent apart from the occasional laughter arising due to the jokes in the movie.
Bala -
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 3:26:14 2009.

Quote:

Nadu mandailla ongi adichu padathukkulla koottittu poida poraan

When Rudhran carries Thandavam and rushes towards the rock.... 3D effect !!
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 3:28:18 2009.

After seeing the film,

Whenever I see some beggar, my mind goes "ivanukku pinnaala endha thaandavam irukkaano..."

From: Kalyasi on Wed Feb 11 3:35:42 2009.

Yesterday when i went to the night show in PVR Forum-Blr, There were some IT-Beggers sitting in the back seat and passing lewd comments over the movie from the start. I was enraged and thought of kicking them like 'Rudhran'. Then I thought within myself 'I need not create a unneccessary scene here...Irungadi ungalai ellam 'Bala' innum konja nerathula, Nadu mandailla ongi adichu padathukkulla koottittu poida poraan, apraam Va.Su. mudittu padam paarpeenga' Exactly the same happened after the song 'Bitchai Paathiram' and then onwards...the whole theater was silent apart from the occasional laughter arising due to the jokes in the movie.
Bala - Not Worthy

Bilaady Inthiyan IT Daaks

From: Shakthiprabha on Wed Feb 11 3:37:24 2009.

raja_fan wrote:

After seeing the film,

Whenever I see some beggar, my mind goes "ivanukku pinnaala endha thaandavam irukkaano..."

Just watching the song "pitchai pathiram" created that impact in me.

pavam avargaL
From: Plum on Wed Feb 11 3:38:03 2009.

"Yes .At the same time ,RSS-ayi kurai sonnal Hinduism-a kurai solvathai eduthukondal athuvum chinna pullai thanam thaan
"
Absolutely. En comment-la, naan ungalai sollalai. Aghori kaatinaru adhanala Bala RSS-nu sonnavangalai sonnen.
(Adhuvum illama Neenga moderator, ungalai solvoma - read this with Dr Kounder accent - nejamave naan ungalai sollalai!)
From: rajasaranam on Wed Feb 11 3:43:57 2009.

...And for the people who still want to think the Villains name as 'Thandavam' - I say it with authority of seeing the movie 4 times that his name is 'Thandavan'
From: Vivasaayi on Wed Feb 11 4:24:41 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

http://minminipoochchigal.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html

my blog post directed to director-bala.

//நான்கில் ஒரு படத்திலாவது இப்படி ஒரு உதயத்தை எழுச்சியை நீங்கள் காட்டியிருந்தால் அது தான் எதார்த்தம்//

ஏன்?

நந்தாவில் சூர்யாவும் லைலாவும் இணைந்து குடும்பத்துடன் சிரித்தபடி "வணக்கம்" சொல்லியிருந்தால் பிதாமகன் முடிவு உங்களுக்கு உறுத்தியிருக்காதா?

சேதுவில் காதலர்கள் இணைந்திருந்தால் நந்தாவின் முடிவு உங்களுக்கு சரியாக பட்டிருக்குமா?

"எல்லா படத்திலயும் "pessimism"னு குறை சொல்றவங்க,இயக்குனரின் முந்தய படங்களை ஏன் மனசுல வெசுகிட்டு பாக்குரீங்க.

ஒவ்வொன்னும் தனிப்படைப்பு...

பாலா என்ன "போன படத்துல அப்பிடி climax வெசதால இந்த படத்துல சிரிச்ச மேனிக்கு முடிச்சுடுவோம்னா "script" எழுத முடியும்?

its his style.thats how he thinks.

u could complain if the approach looked like a forced one - sticks out of the plot etc...but not the approach itself.

From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 11 4:25:17 2009.

silly fellows....konjam kooda common sense illAtha pasanga, neRaiya pAththAchchu sandaiyum pOttAchchu. thiruththa mudiyAthu ivanungaLa. ennatha thAn padichchAnungaLo enna thAn purinjikkitAnungaLo.

From: viraajan on Wed Feb 11 4:26:56 2009.

RS....
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 11 4:27:16 2009.

rajasaranam wrote:

...And for the people who still want to think the Villains name as 'Thandavam' - I say it with authority of seeing the movie 4 times that his name is 'Thandavan'

But 'thAndavam' konjam correct-A irunthirukkum, illa?

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 11 4:30:41 2009.

Actually naan paakkumbodhum blade comments (namma oorla 'commands' nu solluvaanga) pass pannitrundhaanunga.. and there was a death like silence as the movie unfolded, especially during Pichai Paathiram. I thought i even caught a glimpse of the guy in the next seat taking his glasses off and all... aana very soon they started the comments again

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 11 4:31:50 2009.

MrIndia wrote:

ippellam.. naanayathin pakkathai kaatradhai vida.. nayanthaara matrum namithaa-vin pakkathai kaatuvadhaiye kurikolaaga vaithirukiraargal.

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 11 4:33:02 2009.

A.ANAND wrote:

ஒரு நாணயத்தின் சொத்தையான துருபிடித்த பக்கத்தையே படம் பிடிப்பேன் Laughing

simple and powerfull comment!

Slumdaak madhiri illayo?

Ponga boss, poi tweets la David, Boon ivanga ellam enna sonnaanga nu post panni maar thattikunga.. neram ponnaanadhu

From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 4:47:45 2009.

My friend sent me this on Aghori Sanyasis role in fighting foriegn invasions and Britishers.

இந்திய ஆன்மிகத்தின் ஒரு
மறைந்த பகுதி அது. வெளிவராத பகுதி. யதார்த்தவாழ்க்கையில் அவை வெளிவந்து
வரலாற்றில் கலந்த காலங்கள் உண்டு. அவை இந்திய வரலாற்றிலேயே மிக வன்மமான
தருணங்கள். பாரதத்தின் முதல் சுதந்திர போராட்டம், அதற்கு முன் மொகலாய
சாம்ராஜ்ஜியத்துடனான மோதல்கள் ஆகியவற்றில் இந்த விளிம்புநிலை
சன்னியாசிகள் மிகவன்முறையாக களமிறங்கினார்கள் என வரலாறு சொல்லும்.
பின்னர் சிதறி பரவி மறைந்துவிட்டார்கள். அவர்களைக் குறித்து பைராகிகள்,
தக்குகள் என கொடும் வரலாறு புனையப்பட்டது. பிறகு காந்தியின்
போராட்டத்தின் போதும் பல இடங்களில் பிரிட்டிஷ் போலிஸின் இரகசிய
ஆவணங்களில் அன்றி நம் நனவுலக வரலாற்றில் பெயர் இடம் பெறாத சன்னியாசிகள்
உண்டு. ராமநாமிகள் தசநாமிகள் நாகசாதுக்கள் இவர்கள் அனைவருமே
பேரரசுகளுக்கு எதிராக களமிறங்கிய சன்னியாசிகள். போலி சாமியார்கள் என்கிற
இன்றைய ஊடக வசனத்தை உருவாக்குவதில் பிரிட்டிஷ் உளவுத்துறை ஒரு முக்கிய
பங்கு வகித்தது. அண்மைக்காலமாக இந்தியா குறித்த மேற்கத்திய ஆவணங்களில்
அகோரிகளின் சில மயான சடங்குகள் முக்கிய இடம் பிடிக்க ஆரம்பித்துள்ளன.
இந்தியா ஒரு காட்டுமிராண்டித்தனமான நாடு அதன் பண்பாடு அருவெறுப்பானது என
காட்டுவதில் ஒரு அலாதியான ஆர்வம் மேற்கத்திய ஊடகங்களுக்கு இருக்கின்றன
என்றால் அவற்றை பிரதி எடுப்பதில் நம் "படித்த ஊடக பெருமுதலாளிகளுக்கு"
இன்னும் இருமடங்கு ஆர்வம் இருக்கிறது. (மேலே ஆர்வம் இருப்பவர்கள்
வில்லியம் பிஞ்ச் எழுதியுள்ள "Peasants and Monks in British India"
எனும் நூலை படிக்கவும் : ஆக்ஸ்போர்ட் பல்கலைக்கழக பதிப்பு: 1996)
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 4:54:33 2009.

Raja_fan,
தகவலுக்கு நன்றி!

ஆனால் இங்கே நீங்கள் என்ன நிறுவ முனைகிறீர்கள் ? பாலா அகோரிகளை எதிர் மறை கோணத்திலேயே நிறுவ முனைகிறார் என சொல்ல வருகிறீர்களா?

From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Feb 11 4:55:07 2009.

...And for the people who still want to think the Villains name as 'Thandavam' - I say it with authority of seeing the movie 4 times that his name is 'Thandavan' Smile

But 'thAndavam' konjam correct-A irunthirukkum, illa?

Neenga idhai vidave matteengala

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 11 4:56:43 2009.

From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 5:07:03 2009.

Quote:

Raja_fan,
தகவலுக்கு நன்றி!

ஆனால் இங்கே நீங்கள் என்ன நிறுவ முனைகிறீர்கள் ? பாலா அகோரிகளை எதிர் மறை கோணத்திலேயே நிறுவ முனைகிறார் என சொல்ல வருகிறீர்களா?

Joe,

I don't get your question.

Anyways, I saw that some people here were trying to know more on Aghori Sanyasis. So I thought I can share the details I got.
Nothing more.

From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 5:09:45 2009.

Also got this info.

They have mixed two different songs in to one.

இவை இரண்டும் சிவவாக்கியர் என்ற பிரபல சித்தரின் பாடல்களில் இருந்து எடுத்த வரிகள் :

சிவவாக்கியம் முழுதும் இங்கு படிக்கலாம் - http://pm.tamil.net/pub/pm0269/mp269.html

பாடல் 205:

ஐயிரண்டு திங்களாய் அடங்கிநின்ற தூமைதான்;
கையிரண்டு காலிரண்டு கண்ணிரண்டும் ஆகியே
மெய்திரண்டு சத்தமாய் விளங்கிரச கந்தமும்
துய்யகாயம் ஆனதும் சொல்லுகின்ற தூமையே

பாடல் 219:

உயிரிருந்தது எவ்விடம்? உடம்பெடுப்பு தன்முனம்?
உயிரதாவது ஏதடா? உடம்பதாவது ஏதடா?
உயிரையும் உடம்பையும் ஒன்றுவிப்பது ஏதடா?
உயிரினால் உடம்பெடுத்த உண்மைஞானி சொல்லடா
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 5:13:02 2009.

raja_fan wrote:

Anyways, I saw that some people here were trying to know more on Aghori Sanyasis. So I thought I can share the details I got.
Nothing more.

Oh! Thanks
From: SoftSword on Wed Feb 11 5:42:44 2009.

u can find more of sivavaakkiyar's paadalgal here:
http://njaanam.thamizha.com/sivavakkiyar_porul.html
From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 6:39:13 2009.

Just caught the movie at Sathyam. This movie is as 'Indian' as it gets. And Bala is probably one of the few directors capable of handling this. Still chewing on a lot of thoughts, most of them already being discussed here.
A question I had is with regard to a possible connection of the legend of Dattatreya and Rudran. Just wondering because of him being constantly portrayed as surrounded by dogs when in Kasi.
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 11 7:12:34 2009.

kalabarivarar's vAhanam is a dog
From: SoftSword on Wed Feb 11 7:21:27 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

kalabarivarar's vAhanam is a dog
u mean kaalabairavar....
remembering marma desam...
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 11 7:27:49 2009.

Yes. Tamil to English spelling kuzhappam.
From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 7:28:03 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

kalabarivarar's vAhanam is a dog

OhO! Thanks for the clarification. Now I can go back to chewing the same old cud.
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 11 7:57:36 2009.

Why Saket calls himself Bhairav in Delhi - remba naaLA yOsichchikkittu irukkEn. Any theories ?
From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 8:02:08 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Why Saket calls himself Bhairav in Delhi - remba naaLA yOsichchikkittu irukkEn. Any theories ?
ungaL kELviyilE theory oLinthiruppathu theriyuthu

BTW Bala lets rAjA do most of the emotional heavy lifting in this film. Quite astounding trust in musician's capabilities from a director. One that is fully justified of course.
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 8:05:24 2009.

Compli,
Sathyam-la crowd irunthucha?
From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 8:08:34 2009.

Joe: Surprisingly large number for a weekday noon show. Interesting cross section of people - a few groups of women were spotted in the crowd. (I only mention this in light of all the 'family' audience assumptions mentioned before).

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 8:09:29 2009.

Joe: Surprisingly large number for a weekday noon show. Interesting cross section of people - a few groups of women were spotted in the crowd. (I only mention this in light of all the 'family' audience assumptions mentioned before).

From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 11 8:11:22 2009.

illai compli., no publicist ar work, this has stumped me for a while.
Is bhairava a 'destroyer' ? any rAmayaNa links ?
"andha mirugaththai idhukku munnAdi naan pArthadhillai, I only know Ram my brother" seems very weak to be a link. adhunAla dhaan sabai la kEttu vachchEn.
namma Equanimar edhAvadhu sindhichchu vachchiruppAr.
From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 8:21:33 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Is bhairava a 'destroyer' ?

kAla Bhairavar enRu thAn kELvi pattirukkirEn. Now there are 2 possibilites that I am aware of:
1. kAl - Meaning black - sUnyathai. The end.
2. kAla - Meaning time being the ultimate leveler and destroyer of all things. Bhairavar being the one that controls time spent in mortal coil etc..
Either way an agent of destruction. But the dialectic with 'Ram' theriyalai. Equanimus or others must clarify.

From: irir123 on Wed Feb 11 9:32:55 2009.

silly fellows....konjam kooda common sense illAtha pasanga, neRaiya pAththAchchu sandaiyum pOttAchchu. thiruththa mudiyAthu ivanungaLa. ennatha thAn padichchAnungaLo enna thAn purinjikkitAnungaLo.

I dont care for their comments per se., but there is something called civic/decent behavior in public - somehow, most Desis I have seen here in movie halls simply do not seem to have that - when its requested pointedly to shut off/silence their cellphones, they will not do so! much worser, during the screening, someone will be actually talking over the phone! sometime back, while watching "Indian Jones..skull", I had an embarassing experience, when a group of desis sitting right behind me were constantly chattering, and, someone next to them had to prompt them "hello bollywood, some silence please"! - similar experience while watching Dasavatharam - difference was everyone was commenting, and noone was bothered - such a pain vetkam, maanam, soodu, soranai, idhellaam sutthamda saami!

Kaasu kuduthhu oru 3000 people are in the hall, dont these guys have any sense of courtesy and respect for the others ?? some culture! aanaa namma patthi yevanavadhu sonna mattum, varinjikkittu kobham pothhukkittu varum - vetka kedu!

not just in movie halls, this kind of disrespecting and shameless attitude gets extended to how we behave in other public places as well - no organised way of standing in lines, being courteous to the others, saying "Thank you" just do not exist in dictionaries!

-end digression-

From: irir123 on Wed Feb 11 9:39:06 2009.

ஆனால் இங்கே நீங்கள் என்ன நிறுவ முனைகிறீர்கள் ? பாலா அகோரிகளை எதிர் மறை கோணத்திலேயே நிறுவ முனைகிறார் என சொல்ல வருகிறீர்களா?

Raja_fan,
தகவலுக்கு நன்றி! Very Happy

Joe - I dont think thats what he is implying - nor do I think Bala had any such intentions though its a possibility he might have known abt the role of Aghoris in fighting invaders etc...

while I do agree with most of what Raja_fan is saying, I do remind myselves that there are 'n' no of gullible people in India whose common sense is being taken for a ride by an equal 'n' no of fake gurus, swamis etc etc - but that is another subject

From: irir123 on Wed Feb 11 9:42:17 2009.

Why Saket calls himself Bhairav in Delhi - remba naaLA yOsichchikkittu irukkEn. Any theories ?

ungaL kELviyilE theory oLinthiruppathu theriyuthu Smile

BTW Bala lets rAjA do most of the emotional heavy lifting in this film. Quite astounding trust in musician's capabilities from a director. One that is fully justified of course.

athey! athey! thats why am all too eager to listen/watch NL - Mysskin confidence in IR BGM abilities is/was so much that he has given the last 50 min of NL entirely in IR's hands!

From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 11:11:45 2009.

Digression -

Media has started another comedy :

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/44952.html

From the amount of publicity on practically all the websites for the RK letter, one starts wondering whether this is "pre-arranged-marketing-effort" to attract crowd to movie halls after the initial enthu... may be they'll stick posters thru out TN with the Arya-RK-Bala pic for the "2vadhu vAram"?

End-digression
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 11:20:37 2009.

While other reports say RK saw the movie on his own and called them / wrote them to congratulate, this popular newspaper says they welcomed RK (possibly invited him) to view the movie :

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=468350&disdate=2/11/2009

As usual, such reports show the questionable nature of honesty in today's media.
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 11:23:13 2009.

This gossip goes one step further that RK's daughter has already paid advance to Bala for next film :

http://www.viduppu.com/view.php?2aHVnBe0dFhYU0ecJJ5p4b4QaH14d2j5i3cc2Bn13d424OT2a02ZLt2e

Also here:
http://tamil.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/11022009-3.shtml

Naturally, people can ask 'சோழியன் குடுமி...'

From: Sanjeevi on Wed Feb 11 11:30:22 2009.

Is bhairava a 'destroyer' ?

kAla Bhairavar enRu thAn kELvi pattirukkirEn. Now there are 2 possibilites that I am aware of:
1. kAl - Meaning black - sUnyathai. The end.
2. kAla - Meaning time being the ultimate leveler and destroyer of all things. Bhairavar being the one that controls time spent in mortal coil etc..
Either way an agent of destruction. But the dialectic with 'Ram' theriyalai. Equanimus or others must clarify.

I think kAr - karuppu - black. BTW kAlan is not ematharman?

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 11:37:47 2009.

Btw app_engine ,why are so interested in bringing everything in negative sense regarding this movie ,i have noticed even before it's release.

UngaLukku yaar mela kaduppu ? have you seen the movie?
From: Nerd on Wed Feb 11 11:41:39 2009.

EKJI: Rajini-Bala combo negative to this film??
j/k: I know what you mean. App sir, you mean to say NK team and Rajinikanth decided publicize the movie in *this* way? Rajini also praised VKK, adhuvum solli vechu pannraanga, illa?
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 11:59:37 2009.

"Avid fans of Rajinikanth have expressed their desire that Rajinikanth should work for a movie with Bala. Both are perfectionists. This combination, they opine would certainly work wonders."

Both are perfectionists ?? Comedy pa comedy !
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Wed Feb 11 12:00:41 2009.

app engine, what a comedy i say!!

sari appadi kooda, intha maathiri padam odinaal nallathu thaan
From: raja_fan on Wed Feb 11 12:02:20 2009.

Some body was asking why Kamal tells his name in Hey Ram as Bhairav etc.

There is no relationship between Ram and Bhairav etc. Please don't imagine too much
Kamal would have used that name just like that !

To know who is Bhairava,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhairava

From: Nerd on Wed Feb 11 12:04:54 2009.

"Avid fans of Rajinikanth have expressed their desire that Rajinikanth should work for a movie with Bala. Both are perfectionists. This combination, they opine would certainly work wonders."

Both are perfectionists ?? Comedy pa comedy !

For avid fans of "raja_fan", he is a berppeksanisht.

From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 12:14:34 2009.

Joe,

யார் மேலும் கடுப்பு ஒண்ணும் இல்ல

You're not giving me credit for posting the TOI link, but only picking on me for presenting the links related to RK-praise (which I feel is over-hyped).

I think my IR-bias is pretty well known in the hub too:-) At times trying to look things of "our team" objectively, that's all.

I've not seen the movie yet - as my life is so tied up with family (and it appears I can't have them with me for this movie). So, need to wait till they are away for some vacation.

Nerd,
I have very high regards for RK / his views. Also his geniuneness as a person.

However, this publishing his supposedly "private praise" in almost all the mainstream magazines (even dinamaNi, can you imagine) & all websites has the ugly mark of 'marketing' written all over it. That's all.
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 11 12:16:15 2009.

There is some discussion in PassionForcinema on naan kadavul . Please do join in ...

http://passionforcinema.com/naan-kadavul-review/comment-page-2/#comment-326822
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 12:22:19 2009.

app_engine wrote:

publishing his supposedly "private praise"

Do you mean his letter to Bala?
That is not a personal letter ..Rajini met an praised bala in person ..so what is the meaning of this letter ? IMO ,It is more like a statement from Rajini .Rajini wants everybody know what he feels about NK and Bala.

etho bala ootukku rajini post pannuna letter pola sollureenga
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 11 12:34:09 2009.

In the stills of Rajini Vs NK team , the unknown guy - must be Arthur Wilson.
Would have been happier if Pooja had been also congratulated more.
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 12:40:25 2009.

Joe,
This movie is supposedly breaking away from the norms of masAlA movies and the director is supposedly 'suyambu' 'standing on his own merit' etc.

That being the USP, why bring in a mega star's praise to market it, is it not in some way bringing down the individual merit of the movie? It may be ok for some unestablished team - like those poor lads of veNNilA kabadilkkuzhu.

Having otherwise defied all the norms of mainstream kollywood, why should Bala succumb to this star worship, all of a sudden? I think the movie is even otherwise a big hit (going by most websites), so why water it down allowing a claim that RK brought crowds to movie halls?
From: littlemaster1982 on Wed Feb 11 12:43:23 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

In the stills of Rajini Vs NK team , the unknown guy - must be Arthur Wilson.
Would have been happier if Pooja had been also congratulated more.

That's Nikhil Murugan, PRO of Bala.
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 12:46:39 2009.

OK, one more "wild allegation".

Having seen / read most of RK's statements / speeches etc., this letter appears to be not so much out of his heart, but scripted by someone of marketing background and only got him signed.

I can't prove it, but it's a gut feeling.
From: Nerd on Wed Feb 11 12:53:14 2009.

App, to complete your theory, why would rajini oblige to all this?
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 11 12:55:19 2009.

NK has grossed over 11K punds in UK just this weekend.
http://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/15183

and it was released only in 4 screes!!
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 12:57:41 2009.

Nerd wrote:

App, to complete your theory, why would rajini oblige to all this?

May be "puthiri pAsam"...should wait and see...or, may be political pressure (kalaignar TV)...
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 11 12:58:27 2009.

@app
konja naalaave unga kuththu ellame konjam ulkuththu maadhiri dhaan theriyudhu..
whats up man?
enna matter. konjam opena pesungalen.
From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 13:11:46 2009.

jaiganes wrote:

@app
konja naalaave unga kuththu ellame konjam ulkuththu maadhiri dhaan theriyudhu..
whats up man?
enna matter. konjam opena pesungalen.

போஸ்ட் பண்ணி இருப்பதெல்லாமே திறந்த பேச்சுத்தானே? ஒண்ணும் மூடி மறைக்கவில்லையே?

ஒரு உள் குத்தும் இல்லை, வெளிக்குத்துத்தான். அதுவும் வலுவில்லாத சொங்கிக்குத்து

Please take these at their face value (without any weightage). Thanks!
From: Avadi to America on Wed Feb 11 13:54:24 2009.

Enba, ellathullayam nolla solrathukuney sila peru hubla alangikittu irruakanga...
From: irir123 on Wed Feb 11 15:46:43 2009.

Nerd wrote:

App, to complete your theory, why would rajini oblige to all this?

IMO, Rajini must have seen the movie and genuinely appreciated Bala's efforts - its the media thats trying to make the best of RK's image/popularity to fill up their news columns - tats wat methinks.

I dont see any ull nokkam on the part of Bala to use RK's image.
From: A_Ajith on Wed Feb 11 16:28:11 2009.

Ene sandai inga?

Agori baba va koopidu
From: bimmer on Wed Feb 11 16:31:05 2009.

A_Ajith wrote:

Ene sandai inga?

Agori baba va koopidu

Sanda ellam illa pa...Differences in Opinion...

Agori Baba ellam vendam...venumna Office roomku annupungoooo...

From: A_Ajith on Wed Feb 11 16:31:40 2009.

Agori Baba ellam vendam...venumna Office roomku annupungoooo...

Ene sandai inga?

Agori baba va koopidu Evil or Very Mad

Sanda ellam illa pa...Differences in Opinion... Laughing

From: A_Ajith on Wed Feb 11 16:33:50 2009.

Before Naan Kadavul songs released , there was a news that one saint in Kaasi admired one song a lot and had tears hearing a song.

I thought this would be a soft lifeless bhajan.

When audio released OM SIVA OM was that song and it was terrific!!!

It was well picturized too.

From: app_engine on Wed Feb 11 17:50:19 2009.

http://jeyamohan.in/?p=1632
Accoring to this page, Jeyamohan says :

Quote:

நீங்கள் சொன்னதுபோல ஆரம்பத்தில் எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் சார்ந்து இருந்த சிக்கல்களை தாண்டி இப்போது வருபவர்களால் படம் பரவலாக வரவேற்கபப்டுகிறது. தொடர்ச்சியாக கூட்டம் நீடிப்பதாகச் சொல்கிறார்கள். மிக அதிகமான பிரதிகள் [436] போடப்பட்டிருப்பதனால் படம் இதற்குள்ளாகவே �தாண்டி' விட்டது என்றார்கள். இதைப்போன்ற ஒரு எதிர்மறையான, மகிழ்ச்சியடையச்செய்யும் எந்த அம்சமும் இல்லாத, படம் இந்த அளவுக்கு வரவேற்பு பெறுவதை தமிழில் நீடிக்கும் ஓர் ஆச்சரியமாகவே எண்ணுகிறேன்.

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 21:30:28 2009.

app_engine - yoga pose issue mudinju ippo rajini letter aa continue - btw padam pathuttu vanga, u might have more points to hate the movie for!!
From: Hulkster on Wed Feb 11 22:18:28 2009.

App_engine i think the part about rajini's appreciation being over emphasised in the media has been happening for ages. There is nothing to feel bad about. I dunt see bala asking for publicity through this. It also happened for paruthiveeran and also for pudhupettai. So why bring in the news? totally irrelevant. I think people are not that stupid to just go to see a movie just because rajini/kamal says something, they would have to like it no matter what. The film's success is mainly due to itself and with nothing to do about major stars' appreciation about it.

From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 22:53:15 2009.

loved the scene where the old man talks abt god Bow

The greatest moment in the film IMO. kaNNula thaNNi vandhuduchchu. (There were a few other scenes too when my eyes welled up.)

That scene is hard-hitting. I don't think any one would object the language he (Kavingar Vikramaaththian I guess) used. Not even Censor Board did anything to it. Thumbs Up!

unfortunately nAn pArkkumbOthu niRaya idaththula kai vechchuttAnga! This dialog included

From: joe on Wed Feb 11 22:55:20 2009.

complicateur wrote:

unfortunately nAn pArkkumbOthu niRaya idaththula kai vechchuttAnga! This dialog included

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 22:56:46 2009.

compli

they cut that dialogue also? Mad

சண்முகம் குமரவேல் wrote:

ஆனால் ஏராளமான வசனங்கள் சம்ஸ்கிருதத்திலேயே இருப்பதனால் பொதுவாக ரசிகர்கள் அவ்வளவாக ரசிக்கவில்லை என்பதை நான் சொல்லிக்கொள்ள விரும்புகிறேன்.

jeyamohan wrote:

ஆரியாவுக்கு நிறைய தமிழ் வசனங்கள் இருந்தன. சொல்லிவிட்டேன் கடைசியில் சினிமாவில் என்ன எஞ்சுமென்பது கடவுள் கையில்தான்

http://jeyamohan.in/?p=1642

From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 23:06:56 2009.

joe/directhit: They cut most of the profanity reducing the impact to a certain extent.
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 23:08:49 2009.

Nakkeeran Review
http://www.nakkheeran.in/users/frmNews.aspx?T=87
From: joe on Wed Feb 11 23:13:44 2009.

complicateur wrote:

joe/directhit: They cut most of the profanity reducing the impact to a certain extent.

who is doing this ? Theatre kaarangaLa?

Censor allow panninathukkappuram ivangaLukkenna

From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 23:15:14 2009.

Quote:

in a letter to jayamohan

நான் கடவுள் ஒரு வணிகப்படம். அந்தப் படத்தின் அமைப்புக்குள் இந்த மானுட அம்சம் இருப்பதை ஒரு மிக முக்கியமான சமகால நிகழ்ச்சியாகவே நான் எண்ணுகிறேன். அதில் பிச்சைக்காரர்கள் சிரிப்பதைக் கண்டு எரிச்சல் கொண்டு பலர் எழுதியிருந்தார்கள். Banging Head

இணையத்தில் படித்தபோது ஆச்சரியமாக இருந்தது. வருத்தமாகவும். நாம் பிச்சைபோடுபவன் அழவேண்டும், நாம் அவனை நோக்கி பரிதாபப்படவேண்டும் என்று எண்ணுகிறார்கள் . படித்தவர்கள் கூட. Mad

படத்தில் அந்தப்பையன் நம்மைப்பார்த்துச் சிரிக்கிறான். மதுபாலா நம்மை பார்த்து சிரிக்கிறார்/ அந்தச்சிரிப்பு மிகவும் உறுத்தலைக் கொடுக்கிறது. மனசாட்சியை கசக்குகிறது. Bow

இப்போதைக்கு படத்தில் என் நினைவில் நிற்பது, படத்தின் மையமாக இருப்பது, இந்த சிரிப்புதான். �போடாங்� என்று அவர்கள் நம்மை நோக்கி சிரிக்கிறார்கள். Bow

ஏழாம் உலகத்தின் சாராம்சமான விஷயம் படத்தில் வந்துவிட்டது என்றுதான் நினைக்கிறேன். மற்றபடி எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் சார்ந்து சொல்லும் அபிப்பிராயங்கள் , அறிவுஜீவி அலசல்கள் எல்லாம் பத்துநாளில் காலாவதியாகிவிடும். அந்த சிரிப்பு மட்டும் நிற்கும்
சுவாமிநாதன்

http://jeyamohan.in/?p=1590

From: complicateur on Wed Feb 11 23:30:14 2009.

Joe: I wonder if they censor based on the timing of the show. vEra show poi seck paNNaNum.
From: directhit on Wed Feb 11 23:35:12 2009.

main aa neenga vera theater la parunga
From: Plum on Thu Feb 12 2:08:04 2009.

One thing that strikes me about Bala is this man is absolutely original. We have been talking about the revival of Hindi cinema in the last 3 years - but if you see most of their succesful, acclaimed movies - they are just channelign what they learnt from European movies - either technique(Anurag Kashyap in Dev D, V Chopra ), remake(acknowledged or unacknowledged), or paying homage to multiple sources(Sriram Raghavan in Johnny Gaddar). What sets Bala apart is he is unique- avar maadhiri idhu varaikkum yaarum eduthadhillai - indiavuleyum sari, other cinemalyum sari. Lage Raho Munnabhai could be called original but I didnt rate it much. How many of them are making it with the Indian ethos without any influence from the cinemas they have seen from outside? I cant think of many or even any. Maybe Manorama Six feet under. Even there the influence was seen of noir films and it was appreciated for that reason. So, while the Hindi revival seems to be matching the technique and content to hollywood and european cinema, Bala seems to be the only guy who is doing his own original cinema. He is setting his own rules.
(havent seen Naan kadavul yet - impression based on his previous movies and discussions on NK here - chennai visit pannanum)
From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 12 2:08:59 2009.

complicateur wrote:

unfortunately nAn pArkkumbOthu niRaya idaththula kai vechchuttAnga! This dialog included

nesamAvA? adap pAvingaLA.... padaththOda best moment & dialogue athu.
From: Plum on Thu Feb 12 2:13:47 2009.

Rajni sonnarunnu padam paarkara makkal neraiya irundha Kuselan enpa flop aagudhu? Rajni padathuleye avanga edhirpaarkaradhu illaatti paarkadha rasigargal, avar sonnarungaradhukkaga, matha padathai paarpaangala?
app_engine, enna aachu?
From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 2:54:32 2009.

http://passionforcinema.com/naan-kadavul-oh-my-god/

Quote:

Bala lost all those �wow� elements of his earlier films � a plot, a conflict, a structure and above all the characterization of the hero.

Good Bala has moved ahead from conventional cinema and you are still harping on the plot-conflict-structure and above all looking out for a hero and his characterization.

Quote:

Arya is the real �item� of this movie, not the her
o

Was the show amusing to you

Quote:

he wants to buy hamsavalli, the blind beggarwoman played by Pooja, with his collection so that he could start his own business

Do you know Tamizh!!! He dont even indicate of wanting to buy 'amsavalli' FYKI.

Quote:

Sadly Rudran is the weakest of Bala�s heroes...Rudran is there for the sole purpose of destroying evil

Cinema viewing is an art in itself as equal to the art of cinema making. Sadly you have missed the whole point of the movie. Rudran is there just like 'Tat tvam Asi' How much ever you try to connect with him you wont be able to do that, since he is beyond your/our perception. To me 'Rudran' is the most powerful of all cinema Heroes ever portrayed in the history of cinema. And he is not here with the sole purpose of destroying evil.

Its a pathetic trend that anybody who has the knowledge of English & the access to internet are becoming reviewers these days

From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 2:58:10 2009.

One thing that strikes me about Bala is this man is absolutely original. ...Bala seems to be the only guy who is doing his own original cinema. He is setting his own rules.
(havent seen Naan kadavul yet - impression based on his previous movies and discussions on NK here - chennai visit pannanum)

NK'laye oru Dialogue irukku 'Avan oru Suyambu' - Bala'vukku azhaga poruntha koodiyathu

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Feb 12 3:03:43 2009.

Kambli,

Ennga paatheenga? Sathyama? Engga kai vaikala??

From: SoftSword on Thu Feb 12 3:21:12 2009.

Rajni sonnarunnu padam paarkara makkal neraiya irundha Kuselan enpa flop aagudhu? Rajni padathuleye avanga edhirpaarkaradhu illaatti paarkadha rasigargal, avar sonnarungaradhukkaga, matha padathai paarpaangala?
app_engine, enna aachu?

kuselan apdi aanadhu rasigargal paakkadhadhaala illa...
ella rasiganumae padam patthaan...
it failed in the matter of repeat audience... so they were not able to collect that huge amount they sold the movie for....

From: crajkumar_be on Thu Feb 12 3:51:17 2009.

what is the name of the actor who played Murugan? ('Saddam Hussein address comedy la varuvaare)...
From: steveaustin on Thu Feb 12 3:52:34 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

what is the name of the actor who played Murugan? ('Saddam Hussein address comedy la varuvaare)...

Krishnamurthy.
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Feb 12 3:53:19 2009.

nandri SA
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 4:07:38 2009.

Now that the fever inside me has cooled down, I have this logical doubt.
How can police just let go Arya so easily ?

They are not able to spot the body, ok..but the police is close to the villain and know that Arya was the one who killed.
Will they not beat up Arya to know the truth ?

Instead , it is shown as though the police men become his devotees..
From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Feb 12 4:10:41 2009.

steveaustin wrote:

crajkumar_be wrote:

what is the name of the actor who played Murugan? ('Saddam Hussein address comedy la varuvaare)...

Krishnamurthy.

He also worked as a Production Manager in NK.
From: directhit on Thu Feb 12 4:12:32 2009.

what LM says below makes 'sense'

From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Feb 12 4:12:40 2009.

Now that the fever inside me has cooled down, I have this logical doubt.
How can police just let go Arya so easily ?

They are not able to spot the body, ok..but the police is close to the villain and know that Arya was the one who killed.
Will they not beat up Arya to know the truth ?

Instead , it is shown as though the police men become his devotees..

Thaandavan wants to kill Rudran. That's why police is keen to get him out of custody, by closing the case. Remember, the Inspector asks Thaandavan to wait for five days so that he can get even.

From: crajkumar_be on Thu Feb 12 4:13:38 2009.

raja_fan,
Veliya kooda Thandavan wait pannitruppaare...
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Feb 12 4:20:58 2009.

Chennai-la endha theatre-la cut pannama padam poduraanga?
Can someone please help me?
Indha weekend paakanum.
From: crajkumar_be on Thu Feb 12 4:25:37 2009.

I don't recollect correctly if they retained the Hindi baed wards or not in Slum Daak in Sathyam...
From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Feb 12 4:26:20 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

I don't recollect correctly if they retained the Hindi baed wards or not in Slum Daak in Sathyam...

They didn't cut anything. I heard a few.

From: crajkumar_be on Thu Feb 12 4:28:49 2009.

I don't recollect correctly if they retained the Hindi baed wards or not in Slum Daak in Sathyam...

They didn't cut anything. I heard a few.

First interrogation scene la kooda cut pannala illa??

Idhukku mattum edhukku?

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Feb 12 4:30:14 2009.

What about Mayajaal? Veetu pakkathula irruku, easy-a paathuralaam.

Sathyam-ku advance-a book pannanuma?

Kootam eppadi?

Kambli where are you?

From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Feb 12 4:35:58 2009.

I don't recollect correctly if they retained the Hindi baed wards or not in Slum Daak in Sathyam...

They didn't cut anything. I heard a few.

First interrogation scene la kooda cut pannala illa??

Idhukku mattum edhukku? Evil or Very Mad

No. I clearly heard Irrfan saying B... I'm surprised that theatre operators cut that scene in NK.

From: complicateur on Thu Feb 12 4:46:05 2009.

கடவுளும் கட்டமைப்பும்

கட்டமைப்பு என்பது மனிதனின் உடன் பிறந்த ஒன்றாகிவிட்டது. பிறப்பும் அது தரும் உறவும், உறவின் விரிவான குடும்பமும், குடும்பங்களின் கூடாரமான சமூகமும் சோர்வடைந்த மனிதனுக்கு ஒரு கற்பனை ஊன்றுகோலாக (உபயம் திரு.கமலஹாசன்) இருந்து கொண்டே இருக்கின்றன. கட்டமைப்பென்றாலே அதை சார்ந்த 'நுழைவுக் கட்டணம்', 'பராமரிப்புச் செலவுகள்' மற்றும் அதை சார்ந்த 'சலுகைகள்' ஒரு வாடிக்கையாளனுக்கு வந்து சேர்ந்து விடுகின்றன. குறிப்பாக ஒரு தமிழ் சூழலில், சற்று முன்பு அறிமுகமானவர்களைக் கூட மாமன் மச்சான் உறவு கொண்டாடுவது நடைமுறையான சூழலில், இது மிகவும் பொருந்தும். ஆனால் கட்டமைப்பின் கட்டணச் செலவு சிலரிடம் பிறப்பிலே பறித்து விடப்படுகிறது. கட்டமைப்பின் விதிமுறைகளில் அடங்காதவர்களுக்கு, அதன் தளங்களை எட்டாதவர்களுக்கு ஒரு விளிம்பில் இட ஒதுக்கீடு கொடுக்கப்படுகிறது. இதை கூறுவதே சமூகம் எனக்கு அளித்த சலுகை என்றும் எனக்கு மிகத் தெளிவாக தெரிகிறது.
"விளிம்பு நிலை மனிதர்கள்". நான் கடவுள் படம் பார்த்த அனைவரின் நாவிலும் ஒட்டி விட்ட மூவார்த்தை வாசகம். கட்டமைப்பின் ஒரு பங்காக இருக்கும் சாதாரண பார்வையாளனான எனக்கு இம்மனிதர்களைக் கண்டு அருவருப்போ, பரிதாபமோ உருவாவது ஆச்சர்யத்திற்கு உரிய ஒரு எதிர்வினை அல்ல. ஆனால் அம்மூவார்த்தை வாசகத்தின் முதல் இரண்டு வார்த்தைகளை ஒட்டி மட்டுமே படம் இல்லாமல் இருப்பது பாலாவின் திறமை. விளிம்பில் வாழ்பவர்களின் வழியே எனது கட்டமைப்பின் மாயையை உணர்த்திவிடவும் அவர் தவறவில்லை.
"பெத்த தகப்பனா?"
"இல்லை"
"பின்ன உடு சனியன், என்னையும் உன் அப்பனா நெனச்சுக்கோ!"
எவ்வளவு அர்த்தம் இந்த வரிகளில். அந்தப் பெரியவர் தான் எத்தனை புத்திசாலி. பிரப்புறவுக்கு பதில் ஆகிவிட முடியாதென்றும், மற்ற எதுவும் மனது சார்ந்த ஒன்றே என்றும் உணர்ந்த ஒரு கூர்முனைக் கேள்வி பதில் (முருகனின் 'தாலி கட்டிய மனைவி' மற்றொரு எடுத்துக்காட்டு). வாயெல்லாம் சிரிப்பாகி நம்மையும் சிரிப்பில் அரவணைக்கும் அந்த சிருவனாகட்டும், கபடமற்ற சிரிப்பால் நம்மை அரவணைக்கத் தூண்டும் அந்த சிருமியாகட்டும், அவர்களது 'விளிம்பு நிலை' முத்திரையை பாலா முழுவதுமே விலக்கிவிடுகிறார். அதற்கு அவருக்கு நன்றி உரைத்தாயின் நன்று. இவ்வாறே நாம் வெளியாட்களாகக் காணும் இவர்களின் உள்ளும் உறவும் சமூகமும் உருவாகுவதையும் காட்டுகிறார்.

எவ்வளவு கட்டமைத்தும் சில காரியங்கள் கை கூடாமல் போனதற்கு காரணம் தேடி கடவுள், விதி போன்ற ஆக்கங்களை உருவாக்கி அனுசரணை மிகுந்த ஒழுக்கவாதிகளாலும், எதிர்வினை கூருபவர்களாலும் தன்னை நிரப்பிக் கொண்ட சமூகத்தில் 'நான் கடவுள்' என்று பறை சாற்றும் கைவல்யன் தான் உண்மையில் தனியன். ருத்ரன் ஒரு அகோரியின் உதாரணம் என்பதை விட, அதன் உச்சம் என்றே கூறத் தோன்றுகிறது. அவனைப் பற்றி யோசிப்பதில் ஐயங்களே மிஞ்சுகின்றன. உறவுகள் அனைத்தையும் நிராகரிக்கும் அவனுக்கு குருவின் மீது ஏன் பிடிப்பு?
From: complicateur on Thu Feb 12 4:49:26 2009.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

What about Mayajaal? Veetu pakkathula irruku, easy-a paathuralaam.

Sathyam-ku advance-a book pannanuma?

Kootam eppadi?

Kambli where are you?

Satyam there were seats available for the weekday afternoon shows... weekends were selling out.
As far as the censoring in Sathyam it was quite annoying. There were hardly any kids in the audience!
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 5:00:59 2009.

"உறவுகள் அனைத்தையும் நிராகரிக்கும் அவனுக்கு குருவின் மீது ஏன் பிடிப்பு? "

Since this doubt arises out of a spiritual context, we have to see this only in that way.

The word Guru means "destroyer of darkness".

Guru acts as a bridge between world and God. It is not like other relationships which binds one with the world, but a relationship which helps one cross the worldy life.

Ultimately that relationship will also be broken.

From: directhit on Thu Feb 12 5:03:11 2009.

compli

Quote:

எவ்வளவு கட்டமைத்தும் சில காரியங்கள் கை கூடாமல் போனதற்கு காரணம் தேடி கடவுள், விதி போன்ற ஆக்கங்களை உருவாக்கி அனுசரணை மிகுந்த ஒழுக்கவாதிகளாலும், எதிர்வினை கூருபவர்களாலும் தன்னை நிரப்பிக் கொண்ட சமூகத்தில் 'நான் கடவுள்' என்று பறை சாற்றும் கைவல்யன் தான் உண்மையில் தனியன்.

From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 5:03:12 2009.

Quote:

raja_fan,
Veliya kooda Thandavan wait pannitruppaare...

Does he wait outside the court ?

What I saw was : Rudhran in his cave meditates with blood coming out of his forehead. Then a flash back in which he is shown fighting and killing Thandavan. Then Pooja begging for Moksha.
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Feb 12 5:05:00 2009.

Kambli,

Thanks!

Let me goto Mayajaal then.
From: directhit on Thu Feb 12 5:06:40 2009.

yes jus after the judge says to release him they show thandavan standing outside the court (one guy points to rudran coming out) from there scene is cut and shows rudran in his thavam pose (or is it pooja in the church )

From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Feb 12 5:09:43 2009.

raja_fan,
Veliya kooda Thandavan wait pannitruppaare...

Quote:

Does he wait outside the court ?

What I saw was : Rudhran in his cave meditates with blood coming out of his forehead. Then a flash back in which he is shown fighting and killing Thandavan. Then Pooja begging for Moksha.

Car-la kadhavai thirandhu vachukittu ukkandhiruppar. It comes for just few seconds.

From: Kalyasi on Thu Feb 12 5:10:02 2009.

raja_fan,
Veliya kooda Thandavan wait pannitruppaare...

Quote:

Illa neethipathi theerpu sollarathukku munnadi avar sumo la veliya wait pannuvaaru!!

From: complicateur on Thu Feb 12 5:14:45 2009.

Anoop: Thanks

raja_fan,
Those constructs exist only within the standard paradigm right? Do Aghori's have a 'guru-sishya' paarambaryam? Further what stage of realisation is Rudran in if he still has an 'umbilical' connection to someone in the world?
'Aham Brahmasmi' somehow does not seem like something that can be imbibed through traditional 'teaching'. Of course this is just an understanding, I am not certain of it.

From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 6:13:31 2009.

Quote:

raja_fan,
Those constructs exist only within the standard paradigm right? Do Aghori's have a 'guru-sishya' paarambaryam? Further what stage of realisation is Rudran in if he still has an 'umbilical' connection to someone in the world?
'Aham Brahmasmi' somehow does not seem like something that can be imbibed through traditional 'teaching'. Of course this is just an understanding, I am not certain of it.

Very good point !
For a moment, let us comfortably forget that he is an aghori, because the facts about Aghori sect have been mostly unknown to us till now.

Let us see him just as a Sanyasi. In Hinduism, Snyasis have Guru-shishya relationships though a disciple need not always be physically near the Guru.

"Aham Brahmasmi" is one of the maha vakyaas ( great words ) of Upanishads ( part of Vedas ). Another one I can remember is Tat tvamasi ( "You are THAT"). You can see Tat tvamasi written on Sabari malai Ayyappa shrine entrance.

Coming to this "Aham Brahmasmi", it is some ultimate state where one realizes he is none other than the ONE he was all along searching for.

With all my admiration for Bala and NK,
In this movie first of all "Aham Brahmasmi" has been misused and may send a wrong message. No one can just say "I am God" and go on killing other beings.

When one has really gone to that state, he no longer needs Guru or duping like Ganja etc to maintain that state. So Rudhran here is just still a practitioner not a self realized one.

And in Hinduism, Aghoris' ways of spiritual practices of Dupe, Tantra etc were not considered a proper way. Since every way that originated in India is part of Hinduism, we have to consider Aghoris also as a part of it. Thats all.

Kasi and Hindu monasticism is not only about these extreme ways of Aghoris. The word "Aghora" itself means "left hand way" meaning some thing that goes against what "mainstream" spiritualism says.

btw...do we anytime attain this state of self realization ?
Ramana Maharishi says "Yes. Often".
In deep sleep. Whenever we have deep sleep without any dreams, there is no body, no mind. We are just what we are. Thats why every one of us loves to sleep without knowing why

But as soon as we wake up, everything comes back..that I am this body, mind. I have to do this, that etc..
The goal is to permanently attain what we experience in deep sleep. You may study more about Ramana Maharishi to know this

From: Anban on Thu Feb 12 7:52:41 2009.

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From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 8:06:00 2009.

raja-fan,

From an online sanskrit dictionary, these are the meanings for Ghora & Aghora. There is no mention of 'not right way' or 'left way' etc.,
Surprisingly 'Aghora' is not terrific

ghora mf(%{A4})n. (cf. %{ghur}) venerable , awful , sublime (gods , the An3giras , the R2ishis) RV. AV. ii , 34 , 4 ; terrific , frightful , terrible , dreadful , violent , vehement (as pains , diseases , &c. ) VS. AV. TS. ii S3Br. xii &c. (in comp. , g. %{kASThA7di}) ; (%{am}) ind. `" dreadfully "' , very much g. %{kASTA7di} ; m. `" the terrible "' , S3iva L. (cf. %{-ghoratara}) ; N. of a son of An3giras S3a1n3khBr. xxx , 6 A1s3vS3r. xii , 13 , 1 ChUp. MBh. xiii , 4148 ; (%{A}) f. the night L. ; N. of a cucurbitaceous plant L. ; (scil. %{gati}) N. of one of the 7 stations of the planet Mercury VarBr2S. vii , 8 and 11 ; (%{I}) f. N. of a female attendant of Durga1 W. ; (%{a4m}) n. venerableness VS. ii , 32 ; awfulness , horror AV. S3Br. ix Kaus3. BhP. iv , 8 , 36 Gobh. ii , 3 Sch. ; `" horrible action "' , magic formulas or charms RV. x , 34 , 14 A1s3vS3r. S3a1n3khS3r. R. i , 58 , 8 [379,3] ; a kind of mythical weapon MBh. v , 3491 ; poison L. ; saffron L. (cf. %{dhIra} and %{gaura}).

aghora mfn. not terrific m. a euphemistic title of Siva ; a worshipper of Siva and Durga1 ; (%{A}) f. the fourteenth day of the dark half of Bha1dra , which is sacred to S3iva.
From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 8:11:20 2009.

Mela ulla meanings ellam paarkum bodhu, matrum r_f'oda post'a padikkum bodhu onnu mattum puriyuthu - Hinduism madhriyae 'Bala' intha padathula pala vishayangala kalanthu katti adichi irukkaar. Ithula authenticity thedittu iruntha athu namma thappu thaan. Sariyaana purithalo thavaraaana purithaalo ellam illa inga - unakku enna puriyutho athuthaan 'Aanmigam' India'va poruththa varai...And its is justified in the sense of cosmic relevance too - that there is nothing right or wrong in this existence. IT just IS.
From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 8:21:13 2009.

Ok Aduththa kostin,

What is the relevance & Significance of 'Sirasasanam' to this movie. I know it increases Blood flow to the brain, increasing intellect, memory etc., But 'Aanmiga' Relevance enna?

My Theory is that its one of the difficult and advanced postures and it looks grand from the camera POV, the spectator is stunned with this visual. That too when the camera revolves around this posture it becomes grandest spectacle.
One other posture used in the movie was the 'Cosmic Dance' of 'Nataraja' Which is equally powerful but our people have seen this posture everywhere and it will not create a sense of awe to them in the movie, while 'Sirasasanam' was the best bet for 'Bala' as a filmmaker.
From: complicateur on Thu Feb 12 8:25:21 2009.

rajasaraNam: I was not using the film to evaluate a spiritual stance and definitely not to ascribe 'right'/'wrong'. From reading Jeyamohan's assorted essay's on the topic and from a personal interpretation of the film, it seems obvious to me that Rudran is pretty much the personification of an idea. The question I posed was just to understand if there is some narrative connections, other than the obvious contrasts, that I am missing.
From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 12 8:49:03 2009.

compli,

Ayoo Naan yaaraiyum kuripittu sollalla

BTW narrative connections ennanna...Rudran cannot live in this society and he has to return/go somewhere. where else will he go when his Kasi & Guru are there for him. That's why Guru tells him in the beginning that 'Nee vara vaendiya neram unakke theriyum'.

Moreover Guru-Shishya Connection is not equivalent to 'Umbilical' connection. Its the most 'Patratra' relationship anybody can get into if both have well evolved minds.
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 9:00:21 2009.

RS,

May be I should not have said "meaning of".

Rather the Aghora way of spirituality is considered as the left hand path. Because of its dreaded practices which can harm the practioner and pull him down spiritually if not very careful. That is why it was not advised for people at large and considered "left-handed".

There is a book called "Aghora - At the left hand of God" by Svobodo.

And yes , as you say, Hinduism accomodates in itself many schools of thoughts and many ways as may suit every kind of person.

At the same time, it does not mean that any one can take anything in the scriptures and give any meaning to it. Then any system will get in to chaos.

That is why I told that Bala or JM should have been more careful in using the tag "Aham Brahmasmi".

Because it is better to be conveyed at the right way than not being conveyed at all..
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 9:06:53 2009.

Yogasana was originally conceived as physical postures which will help in spiritual sadhana. So all asanas help in this goal in some way.

About sirasasanam, my feeling is that Bala wanted something to show Arya as a super hero..just a hype adding promotional factor.

Ellaaathukkum meaning theda vendiya avasiyam illa...padam odanumnu Bala nenaikka maattaaraa enna
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 9:23:04 2009.

http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=14322

"
This is the incredible story of the Aghori master Vimalananda. Aghora is the apotheosis of tantra, the left-handed path often involving extreme practices in order to hasten spiritual experience.
There are few who dare to complete the rigorous and dangerous left-handed tantric training of Aghora. Strict renunciation is the prerequisite, extreme enough to purify the aspirant through and through.
Only when purity is perfected is the aspirant assigned rituals which to others might seem hedonistic, sinful, disgusting or perverted. But Aghora is not indulgence, it is the transformation of darkness into light. An Aghori goes so deeply into darkness, into all things undreamable to ordinary mortals, that he comes into the light. Vimalanada conformed to none of the usual guru stereotypes and was scathing of religious hypocrisy and fake gurus. "
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Feb 12 9:39:03 2009.

http://www.envazhi.com/?p=3624

Give a break to intellectual, and so called intellectual reviews.

NK is doing very good at BO, MAINLY becos of its content

also this still - http://www.envazhi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/naan-kadavul-stills-049.jpg

Breathtaking!!
From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 12 9:44:46 2009.

Raaja with the NK crew

http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/ilayaraja/index.html

From: irir123 on Thu Feb 12 9:50:25 2009.

my cents - one reason cud be the police around malaikoyil arent as 'procedural' in their ways of dealing with ppl like Arya as other TN police are - tats why they even bring him to the court - remember the judge tells the inspector to bring Arya back exactly in the same physical condition as he was before ?? police in tat small town wud rather obey court orders than face contempt of court - plus couple this with the fact that Thandavam is also pulling the strings as others have pointed out - a combination of both is what makes the flow of incidents narrated in the film logical

Bala is definitely a suyambu!

From: irir123 on Thu Feb 12 9:59:13 2009.

"உறவுகள் அனைத்தையும் நிராகரிக்கும் அவனுக்கு குருவின் மீது ஏன் பிடிப்பு? "

Since this doubt arises out of a spiritual context, we have to see this only in that way.

The word Guru means "destroyer of darkness".

Guru acts as a bridge between world and God. It is not like other relationships which binds one with the world, but a relationship which helps one cross the worldy life.

Ultimately that relationship will also be broken.

raja_fan - thiruvasagam ungal vaasagam!! I was abt to say the same thing, but you did it!

Sufi saintsil aarambitthu, Kabir matrum Guru Nanak pondraar varai, anaivarum "Unmaiyyaana living (adhaavadhu oruvar irukkum andha kaala kattathhil irukkum) Guruvai naadu, avaridam sevai sei, avar solvadhai kael, unnai pirappu-irappu chakkarathhil irundhu viduvikkum vazhigal avarukku theriyum' - idhai sollivittu sendrirukkiraargal'

From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 10:09:36 2009.

Shoddy views by some deleted in "The Hindu".

See his hate words like "moron-monks, designer underwear" etc.

Not the friday review. After seeing this, my hope for tomorrow Friday review goes down

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200902081561.htm
From: irir123 on Thu Feb 12 10:31:09 2009.

why doesnt that deleted reviewer in 'THe Hindu' realize/ understand that Bala has simply highlighted the stupidity of a parent's decision to abandon a child based on silly astrological reasons, by actually showing how the child grows into someone on the social fringes ?? why doesnt that moron understand that the beggars and the aghoris are mutual allegories of each other! with the difference being, the former begging out of compulsion and the other 'begging' for self-realization ??
From: ajaybaskar on Thu Feb 12 11:50:02 2009.

Gnyaani has given his 'Indha vaara kuttu' to Bala for showing beggers/handicapped in bad light...
From: Sanjeevi on Thu Feb 12 12:08:28 2009.

Yeah I read araivekkadu gnani's write-up in kumudam.
From: Nerd on Thu Feb 12 12:11:37 2009.

What about AV? How many marks??
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Feb 12 12:17:55 2009.

Sunday morning 9:15 Am show - Satyam
From: ajaybaskar on Thu Feb 12 12:19:19 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

Yeah I read araivekkadu gnani's write-up in kumudam.

I dont understand what made him to have a dig at Bala. i dont find anything wrong with the way Bala had portrayed them. What does ppl expect from the film makers? To make films on Ambanis and Birlas and show India as the super power that the world envies?
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 12:29:22 2009.

Quote:

I dont understand what made him to have a dig at Bala

Gnani is well known for his stances against anything related to Hinduism.
Can he bear this film then ?

"The Hindu" and Gnani etc are crusaders of the communist ideology. So you can expect all this from them.
From: sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar on Thu Feb 12 13:01:56 2009.

just saw the preview of cofee with anu - aarya and pooja

vaazthukkal!!

From: Avadi to America on Thu Feb 12 13:23:10 2009.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar wrote:

http://www.envazhi.com/?p=3624

Give a break to intellectual, and so called intellectual reviews.

NK is doing very good at BO, MAINLY becos of its content

also this still - http://www.envazhi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/naan-kadavul-stills-049.jpg

Breathtaking!!

There is no where he mentioned the reason for the success of NAAN KADAVUL is rajini's appreciation. Even if he mentioned, I would not believe it. He also mentioned some segment of people (rajini fans) decided to watch after rajini's appreciation. It may be true that very few people might have incited by rajini�s appreciation. It does not mean that he means what you think. In addition, He mentioned that rajini's appreciation came at the right time (amidst of bad review from some section of media). That�s it. Also, he cited the bala and ilayaraj's confidence on their final product. Man, it is the reader who is trying to relate the unrelated statements.

From: Sanjeevi on Thu Feb 12 14:21:35 2009.

Yeah I read araivekkadu gnani's write-up in kumudam.

I dont understand what made him to have a dig at Bala. i dont find anything wrong with the way Bala had portrayed them. What does ppl expect from the film makers? To make films on Ambanis and Birlas and show India as the super power that the world envies?

I think there is a clash between Jeyamohan and Gnani. JM mocked Gnani few months back in his portal but I am not sure though.

From: app_engine on Thu Feb 12 14:26:48 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

I think there is a clash between Jeyamohan and Gnani.

Gnani? or Charu N?
From: raja_fan on Thu Feb 12 21:10:50 2009.

A very superficial review from "The Hindu". Edho sollaname-nu sonnaa maadhiri irukku !

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/02/13/stories/2009021350520200.htm

From: joe on Thu Feb 12 21:12:12 2009.

Yeah I read araivekkadu gnani's write-up in kumudam.

I think there is a clash between Jeyamohan and Gnani. JM mocked Gnani few months back in his portal but I am not sure though.

You can expect a same kind of negative review from Charu as Charu treat Jayamohan as his Jenma ethiri.

From: directhit on Thu Feb 12 21:13:00 2009.

I didnt know that the guy is a samiyar in real life too no wonder he looked so so so effective

ரஜினி :

'நானும் 35 வருடங்களாக காசிக்கு போயிட்டு இருக்கேன். படத்திலே வரும் அகோரி சாமியாரை அங்கே தவறாமல் பார்ப்பேன். அவரை படத்திலே நடிக்க வைத்ததே பெரிய சாதனை. அவரும் பிரமாதமாக நடிச்சிருக்காரு. அதோடு அந்த சாமியாரையே டப்பிங்கும் பேச வச்சிருக்கீங்க. ஆச்சர்யம், பிரமாதம், அவர் சென்னைக்கு வந்திருக்கார் என்று தெரிஞ்சிருந்தா நான் வந்து அவரை பார்த்திருப்பேனே' என்று வருந்தியவர், பாலாவை எக்கச்சக்கமாக பாராட்டினாராம்.

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2009/February/100209a.asp
From: joe on Fri Feb 13 0:33:04 2009.

Rajini going to Kaasi for 35 years is a news for me
I thought he goes to himalayas only
From: rajasaranam on Fri Feb 13 0:54:13 2009.

joe wrote:

Rajini going to Kaasi for 35 years is a news for me
I thought he goes to himalayas only

Dig//
Avar Pogatha edam illa, Mantralyam, Thiruvannamalai, Himalaya...Ella edathukkum Spiritual Vazhi Thedi Povaar. He is not yet settled with one Guru, who can guide him propoerly// end dig
From: raja_fan on Fri Feb 13 1:19:19 2009.

Kasi-kkum Himalayas-kkum romba dhooram llaiye.....

Aana.."oh yes ! I have seen this Sanyasi many times"-nu solradhellaam konjam namba mudiyale

Rajni many times doesn't know what he speaks..ippadi thaan "veerappanai pathi unga yaarukkum theriyaadhu..enakku avanai nallaa theriyum"-nu solli oru podu pottaaru :LOL
From: complicateur on Fri Feb 13 1:33:42 2009.

Baradwaj on his Canceled interview with Bala.
From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 13 1:48:34 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Baradwaj on his Canceled interview with Bala.

Did Indian Express give a bad review for NK?
From: Plum on Fri Feb 13 1:51:59 2009.

compli, you beat me to that. Sad that Bala refused an interview with Baradwaj Rangan. That's a national-award winning critic we are talking about. The positive point though is Rangan is a down-to-earth person who still has written positively about NK. I wish guys like this make up the national award committee - no chance of that happening though and I suspect Naan Kadavul would be deemed too loud by the all knowing mallu jibbas and the no-knowing bollywood kurtas who will make up the NA committee next year. And what with Dev D, Luck By Chance and Dilli-6, NK might at the best get best regional film in tamil.

From: directhit on Fri Feb 13 2:04:59 2009.

compli, you beat me to that. Sad that Bala refused an interview with Baradwaj Rangan. That's a national-award winning critic we are talking about. The positive point though is Rangan is a down-to-earth person who still has written positively about NK. I wish guys like this make up the national award committee - no chance of that happening though and I suspect Naan Kadavul would be deemed too loud by the all knowing mallu jibbas and the no-knowing bollywood kurtas who will make up the NA committee next year. And what with Dev D, Luck By Chance and Dilli-6, NK might at the best get best regional film in tamil.

From: SoftSword on Fri Feb 13 2:12:31 2009.

Kasi-kkum Himalayas-kkum romba dhooram llaiye.....

Aana.."oh yes ! I have seen this Sanyasi many times"-nu solradhellaam konjam namba mudiyale Smile

Rajni many times doesn't know what he speaks..ippadi thaan "veerappanai pathi unga yaarukkum theriyaadhu..enakku avanai nallaa theriyum"-nu solli oru podu pottaaru :LOL

u guys think the media is writing exactly the same words as he said... we all hav known for ages that how the media manipulate any news...
i always wonder on how we use to bash the media most of the times, and still on certain news we jus believe it as it is and discuss on it...

From: rajasaranam on Fri Feb 13 3:24:36 2009.

Aham Brahmaasmi - God Delusion

Well Written and opens up more questions on the movie, worth pondering over

From: omega on Fri Feb 13 4:26:02 2009.

Kasi-kkum Himalayas-kkum romba dhooram llaiye.....

Aana.."oh yes ! I have seen this Sanyasi many times"-nu solradhellaam konjam namba mudiyale Smile

Rajni many times doesn't know what he speaks..ippadi thaan "veerappanai pathi unga yaarukkum theriyaadhu..enakku avanai nallaa theriyum"-nu solli oru podu pottaaru :LOL

அதெல்லாம் அவரவர் சௌகரியதிற்கேற்ப எடுத்துக்கறது. இங்கதான் பல பேருக்கு தலைவர் பேர கேட்டாலே கசக்குதே, அப்ப எல்லா குத்தமும் அவரோடதுதான். இதென்ன இங்க புதுசா? கால காலமா நடக்றதுதான.

From: Plum on Fri Feb 13 4:31:40 2009.

Directhit, no need to fret-pa. The implication was that some bollywood critics revise their opinion of the product according to the way the creator treats them. That may be said of various media people here also and in fact, as a general rule, the way people perceive your product is directly related to how you treat them in life. So, anyone who is decent enough to separate the product and the creator to me stands out as down-to-earth. Okay-va?

From: equanimus on Fri Feb 13 5:14:03 2009.

I suspect Naan Kadavul would be deemed too loud by the all knowing mallu jibbas and the no-knowing bollywood kurtas who will make up the NA committee next year. And what with Dev D, Luck By Chance and Dilli-6, NK might at the best get best regional film in tamil.

Plum,
I seriously doubt if 'Dev D' would be a serious contender in any category for the National Awards. Haven't yet seen the film (going to see it today). I just feel that it just isn't the NA-winner sort of film.

Dilli 6 has a good shot at the Best Wholesome Entertainer of the year provided it creates the same kind of "awakening" that RDB did. But yeah, Best music, Rahman conpfirm for Dilli 6.

And NK, conpfirm best Tamil film, I think. What other 'special' films do we have this year? nandhalAlA, asOkavanam? Is that it?

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 13 5:23:15 2009.

equanimus;

NK will compete with last year's films & not with this year's. But seriously why should we care for awards? I don't understand.
From: equanimus on Fri Feb 13 5:32:36 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

equanimus;

NK will compete with last year's films & not with this year's. But seriously why should we care for awards? I don't understand.

MrJudge,
Oh, thanks. There were talks earlier that the film would be submitted for 2008, but is it confirmed? And I don't really "care for" awards all that much. I was just guessing the probable winners. Let's call it, um, just curiosity.

From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 13 5:40:21 2009.

MrJudge,
Oh, thanks. There were talks earlier that the film would be submitted for 2008, but is it confirmed? And I don't really "care for" awards all that much. I was just guessing the probable winners. Let's call it, um, just curiosity.

This land.... this part of the world is in chaos in every possible way. I don't think all deserved people will be honored here. If it is just out of curiosity, then fine, but if you are serious, you are bound to be disappointed.

From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 13 5:44:07 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

But seriously why should we care for awards? I don't understand.

adhu

award'ayellaam kuppai'la thookki pOdungapapaa

this is the 1st time , I got disturbed this much by just watching a movie

Isaiyil Kadavul Raaja endraal, iyakkaththil kadavul Bala

From: equanimus on Fri Feb 13 5:52:26 2009.

MrJudge,
I've talked elsewhere in the Hub about what awards "mean" (to me, that is). I think it's absurd to (unselfconsciously) hold the jury of such awards in high regard to begin with and then chide the same group for not choosing what one thinks as the "best." As a matter of fact, my views are quite extreme in this subject.

From: groucho070 on Fri Feb 13 5:53:49 2009.

MrJudge wrote:

equanimus;

NK will compete with last year's films & not with this year's. But seriously why should we care for awards? I don't understand.

Well, I would say, yes why care for awards. But it irks me that sometimes you need awards for recognition. Bala needs recognition throughout India, and globally. An award, especially something as overrated and unfair* as National Award is recognised that much. So, we need that for this film at least (innum paarkala, watching it tonight). We got to show the world outside TFI that we have original quality filmmakers here

Awards= an evil necessity.

*never given Best Actor award to NT, ithellam oru award-ah?
From: directhit on Fri Feb 13 5:55:13 2009.

plum - i found that review sarcastic to the core and a direct result of the creator rejecting his interview. maybe its jus me
From: complicateur on Fri Feb 13 5:58:52 2009.

directhit wrote:

plum - i found that review sarcastic to the core and a direct result of the creator rejecting his interview. maybe its jus me

He acknowledges that his intent may not have played out as expected in his reply to comments Anoop. The man, if anything, is quite a fan of Bala.
From: equanimus on Fri Feb 13 6:01:12 2009.

directhit wrote:

plum - i found that review sarcastic to the core and a direct result of the creator rejecting his interview. maybe its jus me

No! Directhit, he has just adopted the Tamil filmworld speak there for his talk "with" Bala. He of course means whatever he has written about the film itself.
From: rajasaranam on Fri Feb 13 7:59:14 2009.

Nethu Oruthar 'Noon Show' Paarka Ponaare! Thirumbi vanthuttaara illai Theatre'laye irukkara

From: Raghu on Fri Feb 13 8:23:11 2009.

Oh Maheswarnaoda paata, appa kataayam intha padathaiyum paataiyum paarka vendum

From: raja_fan on Fri Feb 13 8:32:53 2009.

Quote:

Enjoy ரொம்ப கஷ்ட்மாதேன் இருக்கு 'சம்ஷ்க்ரிதொம்' But a beautiful language. The vibrations of the language with its rhythmic & poetic beauty is making my heart yield to Religion

Adhu samaskritham thaan ! Samashkritham illai

Somebody has tried to give the meaning of the song with few mistakes here

http://giriraajan.blogspot.com/2009/01/om-sivoham-naan-kadavul-translation.html

From: ajaybaskar on Fri Feb 13 8:47:49 2009.

‘GOD’ of a different kind

Director Bala talks to malathi rangarajan about the challenges he faced making the film Naan Kadavul

It is three years since I met Bala as a newly-married filmmaker, happy with the response his Pithamagan had received. It was a journey back in time for him from childhood, adolescence and youth to his emergence as a filmmaker of re pute. This time too, the freewheeling chat at Hotel Green Park goes on for quite a while as he shares his cherished moments during the making of Naan Kadavul.

If the sexton in Pithamagan was new to cinema, the sanyasi in Naan Kadavul is even more so. That’s probably because Bala consciously seeks characters who have never been conceived as film material. The maker laughs: “After Pithamagan I felt people expected something different from me. It was then I thought of the aghoris in Kasi.”

Authentic portrayal

Sitting in the South of the country, Bala has gathered so much information about this group of sanyasis that they look authentic. “The idea germinated when I visited Kasi long ago. Once I decided an aghori will be the protagonist in my film, I went there again to study their lifestyle,” begins Bala. Alone? “I had four others with me. Aghoris are generally aggressive. And, by just looking at you they can gauge whether you are good or bad. But once they allow you to get close to them they are like children…”

Did he actually watch them eating human flesh? “Yes, I did! But even my friends who accompanied me will come to know of it only when they read this piece. I didn’t want them to get scared or think I’m strange, though I know some do,” he laughs and adds: “ People believe that if an aghori pulls out the bodies of their kith or kin in the burning ghat to be consumed, it is a straight ticket to heaven and assures freedom from rebirth! They don’t eat all the bodies, they know who deserve it. Aarya has aped their gait and glare to perfection,” Bala goes on as I sit dumbstruck! “ As for the subject of beggars, the inspiration is Jayamohan’s book, ‘Ezhaam Ulagam’,” he informs.

According to Bala, it was Aarya’s eyes that made him the right choice for the role. “His eyes are very unsympathetic… just like an aghori baba’s. Again, I had seen Puja on screen and always thought she was a tall girl. So I was quite sceptical when my assistants wanted me to meet her. But I saw that she was actually small-made. She was not in the least fastidious,” he recalls. Puja plays a visually-challenged girl, and so an opaque white lens which blinded her completely was used. “She really couldn’t see. It must have frightened her, but she didn’t say so. Even when the camera was behind her while she tries to escape the villains, I insisted she run on the hillside with the lens on ,” he says.

But why present such graphic, gruesome images? “Unfettered by commercial gimmicks, Naan Kadavul showcases reality. So there’s no place for duets here. But the undercurrent of humour throughout gives more respite than romantic songs would! So actually the commercial elements are many …” he laughs. In the film, every time a distress call is heard you wait with bated breath for the aghori to enter and punish the offenders. But the hero takes his own time for punitive measures. “The character should be awaited eagerly. It’s a ploy to enhance the impact,” smiles Bala.

About the maestro he says: “I know that Ilaiyaraja’s music can set right the mistakes and camouflage the minor slips I commit. It has worked out this time too.”

The foremost question on the film buff’s mind is the three-year span that Bala has taken to complete Naan Kadavul. But once you watch the movie, the time, you realise, is quite warranted. Training so many differently-abled folks who have never watched a film in their lives to emote before the camera is no mean task. “They were with the unit on all the 200 days of shoot. I miss them…” he says. As climbing up the hill was impossible for most of them, they were carried in ‘dolis’, or by the light men. A caretaker was arranged for each of them. “Their spirit, despite the odds, fascinates me. And, the rapport was so good that by the time the film got over, the technicians knew every actor in the group by name!

“During the making of the film, I felt a little guilty about putting Puja and Aarya to so much trouble. Their co-operation was phenomenal. Now, after the response it has evoked I’m happy for my contribution to their careers. In fact, I feel both responsible and anxious about the kind of projects they would take up in the future…” he laughs.

How does he rate Naan Kadavul? “The best among my four films! You have to keep growing, right?”

http://www.hindu.com/cp/2009/02/13/stories/2009021350010100.htm
From: ajaybaskar on Fri Feb 13 8:50:15 2009.

This strengthens my doubt that the film has an alternate climax and it was avoided to suit the audiences....
From: irir123 on Fri Feb 13 10:04:40 2009.

its been 5 days since i saw NK - right from the first scene, the 'unusualness' of this film was evident and the 'unusualness' left a strange feel of deja vu ! where and when did i get this feeling of 'unusualness' (in a Tamil film) before ? and now its clear - i got the same feeling when I watched "Mahanadhi"! two different filmmakers, but both have managed to instill a similar feel right from the opening scene
From: Plum on Fri Feb 13 10:07:17 2009.

Directhit, compli and eq have covered for me already but I think for someone new to Baradwaj, it is difficult to fathom that article. I think if someone had to be introduced to him, this isnt the article I would have linked
1) It is pretty badly written
2) He did admit in the comments that it may not have come out as he intended it
3) A person who trashes the movie is not going to quote in the beginning that Bala refused an interview, right? Small minds just hide that fact and trash the product. BR is too big-hearted for that(this you have no way of knowing, but a regular follower would)
4) He thinks the world of Bala and is the one tamil film maker he hs expectations of even more than from Kamal
5) He is the best reviewer in India. If you read him regularly, you will know. Never biased, always analyses the movie objectively, sometimes extrapolates but many times brings in fascinating angles and POV. Try to think of it like this: combine equanimus, Prabhu Ram and complicateur here and you might get him

As for awards, I would go with eq's view. Basically, it doesnt bother me much that IR doesnt receive recognition and I dont care as much about any other artiste either. But awards are done by committees and the NA committee changes every year so consistency cannot be there by definition - my only wish is someone like Baradwaj who can engage with movies from anywhere with equal attention and no-bias can be an excellent value-add as permanent member of this committee. Which is unlikely to happen. The fact that the nature of award committees precludes correct and proper awards shouldnt stop us from wishing for an utopian ideal of a consistent, unbiased, objective committee, right:-)
From: irir123 on Fri Feb 13 10:21:37 2009.

from "ilayaraja-yahoogroups <ilaiyaraaja@yahoogroups.com>"

"One of my friend who is in madurai said that "naan kadavul" movie runs nearly 3 hours and 15 mins in one madurai theatre. He said that all songs are present except madha un kovilil song...."

Maybe he meant 2hrs and 15min - but all the songs are retained in the version released in Madurai ??

is there anyone from Madurai here ??
From: Plum on Fri Feb 13 10:31:07 2009.

Here's an old interview by Baradwaj of Bala: Some interesting snippets:
"Like every director, I want to work with Kamal"
"People talk about art films, but it�s tougher to make a Ghilli, which involves a group song with sixty dancers and tries to bring out the �art� in all of them.�
"I was probably sadder than the director or the actor when Anbe Sivam flopped. That�s why I asked to use clippings of it in Pithamagan."

"B Studios is the name of my production outfit. We will do ad films, and produce two features a year � without double-meaning dialogues, and without demeaning women.
"
(not sure he could follow through on this)

"�My next film will star Ajit. AM Rathnam is the producer, and it will be my first big-budget project.

Ajit�s image among his fans doesn�t bother me. People will always accept a good performance in a good film."
From: joe on Fri Feb 13 10:40:40 2009.

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44
From: app_engine on Fri Feb 13 10:46:03 2009.

joe wrote:

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44

Is it because their own product (SMS) gets released this weekend?

Sorry, cannot stop from thinking about the 'motive' again I think it's time for me stop reading between the lines.
From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 13 10:49:18 2009.

joe wrote:

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44

Sooperabbu
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 13 10:49:37 2009.

joe wrote:

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44

My websense blocks it saying the site contains spam. May be it's true after all! They've given 50 to sEthu, 49 to PM and 44 each to N and NK. If 60/100 is the best according to them, all his movies deserve more marks than they got I am sure that the reviewer still can not come out of the film and having dreams about kuruvi, murugan etc.
From: Nerd on Fri Feb 13 10:53:34 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Baradwaj on his Canceled interview with Bala.

Very insightful. The third eye thingi is something which I never thought of. And would have loved to see Bala answering those questions. The christianity connection especially and what happens in the scenes which we were denied to see.
From: joe on Fri Feb 13 10:56:50 2009.

Villu padathukkum Naan kadavul padathukkum vithiyaasam athigamillai gentlemen ..just 7 marks
From: lord_labakudoss on Fri Feb 13 11:05:46 2009.

I have seen some questions here on the link between the Aghori and the beggars. Here is my angle:

They were all (including Rudra the Aghori) abandoned. But the paths their lives took could not be any different. Is it because of the place they were abandoned?

One set grows up completely exploited by the beggar mafia, but at the same time, completely experiencing the range of human experiences (including family-like bonds & laughter).

The Aghori, on the other hand, while not exploited for any one else's gains, grows up completely devoid of any human attachment.

Had the Aghori's Dad abandoned him near Malai Kovil, he would have been maimed and been part of Murugan's 'flock'! And when his parents' conscience prodded them to locate him & take him back, how would have he reacted? How would they?

Is Bala presenting these two classic choices so familiar to Hinduism/Buddhism? Emotional ties & suffering Vs Detachment & control over yr life?

Regards,
Lord Labakudoss
From: sivank on Fri Feb 13 11:21:27 2009.

I saw Naan Kadavul couple of days ago and it took me a while to write about it. In my opinion Bala has made a master piece. I am not going to argue whether it is a nice film or something. For me it was something special. I have watched Romanian begger mafia which is all over Germany. I can imagine the plight those people had to under go in their lifes. It pained me to see how the grandfather was separated from his grand child and the boy(man) with the great laugh was taken away from his friend who always carried him. Bala must have lot of courage to show something in screen.

I saw a version of NK with only Om sivoham and Pichai paathiram song. I think the film underwent enormous cuts and it would have been great if we could watch the film without any cuts.

I have read that Arya had been on the losing side since he comes only in 8 frames or 40 min. in the film. But, Bala created his character so that you feel that he is all over there. I can�t simply imagine Ajith in this role as it was previously planned( Ajith fans please don�t get angry with me). Ajith would have been a misnomer in that role. Pooja, lived in that role. Contrary to many, I found the old songs which were sung in the film was good. Esp. the song "sondhamillai bandhamillai" was sung at the correct time and scene.

Without Maestro�s music the film is only Half worth. It was like breath which the film needed.

I only have a small request to Bala. I have seen "Aham Brhaamasmi" Naan kadavul but I would like to see "Aham Manushyaasmi" Naan manidhan, film. I want Bala to show all those people who engage themselves for the welfare of such people shown in the film. A vettiyaan (pithamagan) who eats the rice which was given to the dead or the people who are kept chained (sethu) or the beggars who live at the whim and wish of those slave traders deserve someone who helps them

From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Feb 13 11:26:05 2009.

My websense blocks it saying the site contains spam. May be it's true after all! They've given 50 to sEthu, 49 to PM and 44 each to N and NK. If 60/100 is the best according to them, all his movies deserve more marks than they got Cool

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44 ROTFL

I am sure that the reviewer still can not come out of the film and having dreams about kuruvi, murugan etc.

I have been saying this for quite some time. Anandha Vikatan's standards have declined too much. Their reviews/marks are no more the benchmark as before. I'm eager to see how many marks they are going to give SMS.

From: HonestRaj on Fri Feb 13 11:40:11 2009.

I am sure that the reviewer still can not come out of the film and having dreams about kuruvi, murugan etc.

Aanantha Vikatan gave 44 ROTFL

Nalla irukkunu than solla poranga....

From: steveaustin on Fri Feb 13 11:46:41 2009.

Pooja introduces to Ilayaraja

Today the AVM theatre wore an entirely different look as the beggars and the physically challenged of Naan Kadavul were present in good strength for an interview. Actress Pooja, who had acted as a blind beggar, was also present there and their interactions showed how close she had got to them in the course of the making of the film. Kavignar Vikramathithyan and director Singhampuli, Assistant to director Bala were also present. As a gesture of love and affection, they were taken to Maestro Ilayaraja's recording theatre where they were treated to a one-to-one interaction with Ilayaraja and photo sessions to their hearts' delight. The Music Maestro treated them all with snacks. Earlier, Pooja introduced each and everyone of them to Ilayaraja.

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/feb-09-02/ilayaraja-12-02-09.html
From: steveaustin on Fri Feb 13 11:48:42 2009.

நான் கடவுள்: பட்டையைக் கிளப்பும் வசூல்!

விதவிதமான விமர்சனங்கள் வந்தாலும், முதல் வார வசூல் நிலவரப்படி பாலாவின் நான் கடவுள்தான் பாக்ஸ் ஆபீஸில் முதலிடத்தில் நிற்கிறது.

சென்னையில் 11 திரையரங்குகளில் வெளியாகியுள்ள நான் கடவுள் வார இறுதி நாட்களில் மட்டுமின்றி, வேலை நாட்களிலும் கூட ஹவுஸ் புல்லாக ஓடிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது.

இதில் ஆச்சர்யம், புற நகர் பகுதி திரையரங்குகளிலும் இந்தப் படத்துக்கு குவியும் கூட்டம்தான். பரீட்சை நேரத்தையும் தாண்டி இந்தப் படம் பெரும் தொகையை இந்த ஒரே வாரத்தில் வசூலித்துக் கொடுத்துள்ளது தயாரிப்பாளரை சந்தோஷப்பட வைத்துள்ளது.

ரஜினி போன்ற பெரிய நடிகர்களின் படத்துக்குச் சமமாக மொத்தம் 436 பிரிண்டுகள் போடப்பட்ட நான் கடவுள், வெளிநாடுகளில் நல்ல கூட்டத்துடன் ஓடுவதாகவும், அமெரிக்காவில் சூப்பர் ஹிட் தமிழ் படப் பட்டியலில் இடம் பெற்றுவிட்டதாகவும் தெரிவிக்கிறார் படத்தின் ஹீரோ ஆர்யா.

விநியோகஸ்தர்கள் மற்றும் திரையரங்கு உரிமையாளர்கள் தரப்பிலிருந்து வந்துள்ள ரிப்போர்ட்டுகள் மிகவும் சாதகமாகவே உள்ளதால், படத்தின் விளம்பரங்களில் கூடுதல் கவனம் செலுத்த ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறார்கள்.

நல்ல படம், வணிக ரீதியாகவும் வெல்வதுதானே, கோலிவுட்டுக்கும் ஆரோக்கியமாக இருக்கும்!

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/02/12-naan-kadavul-first-week-bo-repor.html
From: irir123 on Fri Feb 13 13:17:07 2009.

one thing is sure: producers/directors/distributors under the impression that a successful movie needs item songs, dances and shooting scenes in exotic locations abroad - for all of them NK is a perfect 'nethhi adi'!

at least for that, Bala critics shd appreciate him
From: app_engine on Fri Feb 13 13:24:47 2009.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_Buzz/Im_on_cloud_13/articleshow/4123991.cms
From: ajaybaskar on Fri Feb 13 13:24:55 2009.

In NK, When the judge asks Rudran what he did to Nair, Rudran gives some shocking reply where there was no dialogue but only bgm playing. Could anybody guess on that?
From: MumbaiRamki on Fri Feb 13 13:46:01 2009.

ajaybhaskar ,

what else " i ate him !'

From: crajkumar_be on Fri Feb 13 15:19:41 2009.

app_engine wrote:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_Buzz/Im_on_cloud_13/articleshow/4123991.cms

Quote:

Rajini sir enquired about Pooja�s next project. He said that she would now have several offers coming her way and that she would have to be careful in selecting her next movie,� a source informed

Adhu seri!

From: groucho070 on Fri Feb 13 22:45:22 2009.

Alright folks, I saw the film last night and here are my thoughts about it, if at all you are interested.

http://grouchydays.blogspot.com/2009/02/naan-kadavul.html
From: directhit on Sat Feb 14 0:05:16 2009.

compli/equa/plum - thx, looks like i was wrong

equa - ur rite, that language with those many 'sir's was what irked me - but as u say, perhaps thts how our journalists speak to these artists (Atleast down south)
From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Feb 14 2:17:26 2009.

ajaybaskar wrote:

In NK, When the judge asks Rudran what he did to Nair, Rudran gives some shocking reply where there was no dialogue but only bgm playing. Could anybody guess on that?

"Vayithukkulla irukkaan" That's what my friend said, who is a member of post production team.
From: jaiganes on Sat Feb 14 2:43:44 2009.

Reminds me of the old story associated with Sage Agasthiyar.
Vilvalan and Vaathaapi are two raakshasaas, with a unique boon.
Vaathaapi can be cut to many pieces and eated, but when vilvalan calls his name, he can come out of the stomach of the person who has eaten him tearing him open, thus the eater ultimately gets eaten by the one he ate initially. They kill and eat so many people with this ploy. When they try the same with the trikaala gnaani agasthya, The maharishi digests vaathapi and when vilvalan calls him for business as usual, replies 'Vaathaapi jeernamasthu' (let vaathapi be digested) thus digesting the raakshasa in his system!! I have not heard of a more twisted story on a rishi in Hindu mythology - There are ways to look at things...
OTOH, in our modern cinema, Dr.Hannibal Lecter of Silence of LAmbs and Hannibal eats folks who irritate him or dont deserve any better(according to him). Shades of lecter in Rudran? I can't say as I am yet to watch the movie...
From: Nerd on Sat Feb 14 3:16:37 2009.

நான் கடவுள் உருவாக்கம் (கலைஞர் டிவி)
Watch out for
- Bala's camaraderie with the mentally/physically disabled people
- Making of the fights
- Pooja-dubbing episode
etc. No wonder, this film took 2.5 years. In fact its an achievement. Double-must watch.

And watch this too: Interviews of a few characters - http://www.nakkheeran.in/users/frmMoreWebTv.aspx?WTV=130

abirAmi abirAmi range-kku ennaya aakktittAru bAlA. meeNdum oru muRai viraivil pArkkanum.
From: jaiganes on Sat Feb 14 3:20:43 2009.

nerd
neenga pogum bodhu ennayum koopidunga sir.
From: Nerd on Sat Feb 14 3:30:07 2009.

Jai,
Its not running in Dallas anymore. Naan adutha vaaram India pOREn. ungaLukku oru DVD (pirated) vaangittu varEn.

P.S. Original DVD varrathukku 3-4 months aagalaam, adhuvum inge kidaikkAdhu. Internet-la order panninA, varalaam, varaamalum pOgalaam.
From: viraajan on Sat Feb 14 3:32:08 2009.

Has this been discussed already? If so ignore it pls.

A famous writer says "There is no difference betw Thaandavan and Bala. They both earn money using beggars, handicapped people"

Naansense....

Fkin Pessimist!!!!!

From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 14 3:37:17 2009.

Has this been discussed already? If so ignore it pls.

A famous writer says "There is no difference betw Thaandavan and Bala. They both earn money using beggars, handicapped people"

Naansense.... Banging Head

Fkin Pessimist!!!!!

I think Gnani has said it. ippadi padam eduththA thappu, Namitha vachchu padam eduththAlum thappu, enna seiyanumnu correct-AvAthu sollungadA. Gnani is like I-know-everything-kind-of-guy, thiruththa mudiyAtha case....we should walk over these guys and move forward.

From: viraajan on Sat Feb 14 3:40:51 2009.

aah... I dint want to specify his name

Fkin Pessimist!!!!!

Avara inga thittalama?

Avar pesuradhu ellam maha kevalama irukkum. Logic'e irukkadhu. Periya __nu nenaippu...

He is a pessimist....

From: crajkumar_be on Sat Feb 14 4:34:46 2009.

Rendavadhu 'trip' paakkapporen today evening at Lido...
From: jaiganes on Sat Feb 14 4:40:08 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Rendavadhu 'trip' paakkapporen today evening at Lido...

Idhellaam rombave over.
Paarunga - aanaal solli ennai novadikkaadheengappa.
mudiyala

From: raja_fan on Sat Feb 14 5:29:19 2009.

Quote:

நான் கடவுள் உருவாக்கம் (கலைஞர் டிவி)
Watch out for
- Bala's camaraderie with the mentally/physically disabled people
- Making of the fights
- Pooja-dubbing episode
etc. No wonder, this film took 2.5 years. In fact its an achievement. Double-must watch.

When was this telecasted ?

Mudinja apparam solreengale

From: rajasaranam on Sat Feb 14 6:38:26 2009.

Rendavadhu 'trip' paakkapporen today evening at Lido...

Idhellaam rombave over.
Paarunga - aanaal solli ennai novadikkaadheengappa.
mudiyala

Naanum Innoru 'trip' poalaamannu yosichikittu irukaaen

From: complicateur on Sat Feb 14 6:53:05 2009.

கடவுளும் உருவமும்
படைப்பு எப்பொழுதும் படைத்தவன் உருவத்திலே இருந்து விடுவது வழக்கம். ஆக்கத்தின் காலம் கடந்து போயின் படைப்பு எது என்றும் படைத்தவன் எவன் என்றும் பிரித்தல் மிகக் கடினமாகி விடுகிறது.
மாங்காட்டு சாமியின் மலைக்கோயிலின் அடிவாரத்தினின்று அதன் சந்நிதி வரை கிருஷ்ணன், சிவன், முருகன் என்று உடை தரித்த பல உருப்படிகள். சந்நிதிக்குள் உருவம் மாறாத உருப்படியாய் மாங்காடுச் சாமி. உருவம் மாறிய உருப்படிகளின் உருவம் மாறாத உருப்படிக் கடவுள். பைபிள்-இன் ஜெனிசிஸ் புத்தகத்தில் கூறுவது போல் கடவுளும் அவனை வணங்குவோரின் உருவத்தில் தான் இருக்கிறான்.
ருத்ரன் மலையில் இவரை விட உயரிய நிலையிலே வசிக்கிறான். கடவுள் மனிதனின் உருவத்தில் இருக்கும் நம்பிக்கையின் உச்சமே நான் கடவுள் என்ற நம்பிக்கை என்று பாலா கூறுகிறாரா?
From: mugil123123 on Sat Feb 14 7:53:46 2009.

http://andhracafe.com/index.php?m=show&id=37936

Despite the bad reviews the film Nenu Devudini got, it is doing good business at the box office and has already entered its second week in many major centers across the state.

Though the critics have not appreciated the film, the audiences are going for it for two apparent reasons, one is to see Bala's direction (he has a certain brand image and people are interested in his direction) and the second is to explore the treatment of a new concept like the Aghora Sadhus, the word- of-mouth publicity is also doing a lot of good for the film as the youngsters are liking the film very much.

A film trade analyst says that the film would have done much better were the direction and the treatment were more terse, but even now the film is not a loser and will recover its costs.
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 8:42:15 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Rendavadhu 'trip' paakkapporen today evening at Lido...

- I saw in Innovative (Marathahalli)

- max. 20 members irundhuruppoam

- padam mudinju "A Film By Bala" podumpodhu.. adhula 10 peru andha padaippalikku mariyadhai seyyum vidhamaga pannittu vandhoam
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 14 9:06:38 2009.

Today witnessed NK for the second time. Surprised to see 85% occupancy in Saidai Raj. Few of them seems to be the repeat audiences. I am happy to see that claps and whistles flying for most part of the movie. I am surprised to see more family audiences today. It seems that movie is doing good business in Chennai.
From: Hulkster on Sat Feb 14 9:20:27 2009.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tx4wnjwzmwt

Thought of sharing with you guys this. My most favourite BGM from the movie. It comes before the interval for those who are guessing. You can just visualise without having to see it.
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:29:41 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

joe,

enaku padam parka aasaiyaay irukku. Thunaikku yaarum illai

enakku paarthaal pidikkum endrum theriyum.

I am sure NK would be the best of his movies.

ungalukku pidikkuma illayanu ennala solla mudiyadhu... but oru sila varigal:

The film has enough humour to make u laugh.. periya periya comediangal-ngra perla irukkura nadigargal sirikka vekkiraennu blade podumpodhu.. kadhai oattathukku yetra madhri.. adhulaye nagaichuvai kuduthullar Bala

sari.. padathula comedy irukkunu nambi parthudadheenga.. comedykku sirikkireengalo illayo.. padathula varra pala idhayam thodum katchigalukku.. idhayam ullavargal sila manithuligalavadhu kann kalangiye aaga vendum really disturbing scenes.. pala murai.. pala idangalil padithiruppoam.. aanal mudhal mrayaga BALA andha iruttu ulagathukkul senru avargalukku velicham kuduthullar, at least for people to realise their world.. don't think that I am talking about Aghori.. samiyar.. kasi etc.. it is about those people (we call them beggers).. how they are made to do so
From: Shakthiprabha on Sat Feb 14 9:36:01 2009.

hmm....
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:38:57 2009.

Mudhan mudhalil.. avanga pitchai edukkum koyilai kattumpodhu.. "Marudhamalai"kku vandhu parunga-nnu paattu oadum... kovilum Marudhamalai madhiri irukkum (but it cannot be Marudhamalai).... adhula.. pitchai karanga ellorum pesikittu irukkumpodhu.. padikattula palar sendru kndu irukkum kalgal theriyum...

indha scenela... naam ellorum andha padikkattula poravangalathan iruppoam.. rendu pakkamum idhupoanravargal iruppanga.. sila neram 1 Re. 2 Rs. poduvoam.. pala nerangalla avangala kandukkama poyiduvoam... aanal.. BALA.. angu irukkum ulagathai kattiya vidham.. avangaludaya vazhkkai ippadi oru pudhiya.. ellorum edukka thayangum oru padathai eduthadharkkaga

Palarum indha padathai vimarsithu ezhudhiyadhal.. padam parkkumpodhu easy-ah relate panna mudinjadhu.. & I could easily understand most of the Hindi part.. my friend who sometimes watch Hindi films is asking me, "ennada solran"
From: sarna_blr on Sat Feb 14 9:40:27 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

hmm....

avaru enna kadhayaa solraaru

kandippaa paarkka vEndiya padam but not for weak-hearted people and ladies imho
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:41:51 2009.

Shakthiprabha wrote:

hmm....

nethu naama pesumpodhu (postum-podhu) nan padam parkkalai.. ippo parthadhala.. thought of quoting ur post

From: Shakthiprabha on Sat Feb 14 9:44:04 2009.

indha scenela... naam ellorum andha padikkattula poravangalathan iruppoam.. rendu pakkamum idhupoanravargal iruppanga.. sila neram 1 Re. 2 Rs. poduvoam.. pala nerangalla avangala kandukkama poyiduvoam... aanal.. BALA.. angu irukkum ulagathai kattiya vidham.. avangaludaya vazhkkai ippadi oru pudhiya.. ellorum edukka thayangum oru padathai eduthadharkkaga Clap

'Echil iravugaL' nnu oru padam. Early 80z. It talks on roadside beggars life. Ella characters-um picha karanga thaan.

I am not sure if it was a hit. aanaal adhu saadharana pitchaikkarargaL portray pannathu. indha alavu "the other side" of dark story elaam irukkaadhu.

From: Shakthiprabha on Sat Feb 14 9:47:33 2009.

The famous 'PASI' again on poverty . Story of a ragpicker. Shobha I supp won best actress award. It was a hit story (late 70z) again yadharthak kathaigaL but not gori ones.
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:47:42 2009.

I really wish people to make this film a Big Hit!!!!!!

BALA poanra kalaignanukku vetrigalai kudukkumpodhu innum nalla padaippugal namakku kidaikkum!!!!

KAMAL visayathil naam seidha thavarai.. BALA visayahil seyya koodadhu (IMHO).. !!!!!!!

Finally.. top performers.. in my order:

BALA ---- just for attempting film like this & convincing the producer
ILAYARAAJA ---- amaidhiya poykittu irukkum padathula.. Om Siva Om.. music varumpodhu.. udambu silirkkudhe.. adhuthan ivar vetri
POOJA & Arya ---- for accepting this kind of role

Arthur Wilson ---- for his camera, especially the starting Kasi scenes
Jeyamohan --- for Humour & some touching dialogues
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sat Feb 14 9:49:31 2009.

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:49:36 2009.

SP.. andha alavukku pazhaya padam ellam nan adhigam parthadhilai.. may be someone would say the difference between those films & Nan Kadavul

From: sarna_blr on Sat Feb 14 9:51:12 2009.

BALA poanra kalaignanukku vetrigalai kudukkumpodhu innum nalla padaippugal namakku kidaikkum!!!!

KAMAL visayathil naam seidha thavarai.. BALA visayahil seyya koodadhu .. !!!!!!!

WE NEED MORE BALA's

From: sarna_blr on Sat Feb 14 9:53:16 2009.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan

town/city bus'la pOnga
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 14 9:53:48 2009.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan

endha Theatre
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sat Feb 14 9:54:06 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan

town/city bus'la pOnga
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sat Feb 14 9:56:28 2009.

steveaustin wrote:

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan

endha Theatre

Satyam.
From: sarna_blr on Sat Feb 14 9:56:46 2009.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

sarna_blr wrote:

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Tomorrow morning 9:15 Am show, pallu thechutu kelamba vendiyadhu thaan

town/city bus'la pOnga

appa dhaan 4 pErukitta padaththa paththi perumayaa pEsamudiyum andha 4 pErula oruththar paaththaa pOdhum 4 pErumE paaththaa romba sandhOsham
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 9:56:50 2009.

Who is that villain? pudhu mugam-ah?

he reminds me of a 80's actor (may be a director).. who acted as Ramarajan's father .,, donno the film name.. mostly Kovai thamizh pesithan nadipparu... he was seen as Radha's father in pick pocket.. ivar peru enna?

From: sarna_blr on Sat Feb 14 9:58:22 2009.

Who is that villain? pudhu mugam-ah?

he reminds me of a 80's actor (may be a director).. who acted as Ramarajan's father .,, donno the film name.. mostly Kovai thamizh pesithan nadipparu... he was seen as Radha's father in pick pocket.. ivar peru enna?

he comes in Pithamagan... I guess his name is Rajendhran

From: ajaybaskar on Sat Feb 14 10:02:12 2009.

His name is Rajendran.. Vikram mentioned his name specially during the audio release of NK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAOFld8cIcE

From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 10:04:01 2009.

Thanx Sarna & Ajay.. andha rendavadhu actor peru (Radha's father in Pickpocket)?
From: ajaybaskar on Sat Feb 14 10:06:41 2009.

Yaara solreenga?
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 10:10:52 2009.

ajaybaskar wrote:

Yaara solreenga?

Radha voda appava .. Pickpocket padathula nadicha actor.. vayasanavara.. eppavum oru villathanathoda irupparu..
ok.. theriyalainna vitrunga.. innoru nal.. youtube link kuduthu ketkuraen
From: HonestRaj on Sat Feb 14 10:11:30 2009.

one thing to say.. Bala padathula sandai katchi ellam morattu adi-ah irukku
From: ajaybaskar on Sat Feb 14 10:16:27 2009.

i think u meant r.p viswam
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 14 10:38:59 2009.

ரஜினி வீட்டில் பூஜா! தொடரும் 'நான் கடவுள்' பாராட்டுகள்
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 14 10:39:38 2009.

Pooja�s tete-a-tete with Rajini
From: steveaustin on Sat Feb 14 10:50:44 2009.

'கண் கலங்கிட்டேன்'... பூஜாவை பாராட்டிய ரஜினி

From: joe on Sat Feb 14 11:16:20 2009.

I already mentioned here that His body language and accent reminds me R.B.Viswam.

From: ajaybaskar on Sat Feb 14 11:18:29 2009.

I already mentioned here that His body language and accent reminds me R.B.Viswam.

So I was correct then...

Anyways, couldnt get any pics of Viswam.

From: Avadi to America on Sat Feb 14 12:56:45 2009.

SAW the movie today. I am amazed the bala's direction. it is definitely the darkest film bala ever made.

i intend to recommend this movie to all my north indian friends.
From: Dilbert on Sun Feb 15 0:22:21 2009.

Finally ended up seeing this movie..

Definetely .. good art movie. But it can't be judged as the best / darkest / -- etc etc..

Its a very very old dark sentimental wine in new bottle.. (Beggar / human trafficking/Drug Trafficking). He tried giving the indian touch ! and a good one too.

+ Bala's Direction
+ Arya + Pooja just stunning..
+ Raja BGM / Songs... simply great

- Very streched attempt to show the cruel side of the world

- Art direction and some location reminds us of sethu , pithamagan.

Watchable once. !

From: HonestRaj on Sun Feb 15 3:01:04 2009.

I already mentioned here that His body language and accent reminds me R.B.Viswam.

So I was correct then... Very Happy

Anyways, couldnt get any pics of Viswam.

once again thanks

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sun Feb 15 5:34:50 2009.

Saw the movie, my impression when I came out of theater was just ok. Strangely an inexplicable feeling ran over my mind when I traveled back to my home. The story is pretty simple [except those hi-fi spiritual fundas] and the second half is easily predictable. However it is the characters which Bala has designed is impeccable and noteworthy. Arya, Pooja � wow! No words to explain, simply the best.
I am also confused about the climax, not sure how much it was trimmed. Overall, I think I need to revisit the movie
From: SoftSword on Sun Feb 15 6:02:35 2009.

saw the movie...

the movie was.....

a film by,
bala
From: SoftSword on Sun Feb 15 6:04:04 2009.

and to the people who argued that its thandavam, his name is thandavan.

the scorpio in which he appears first had the name written clearly, "Thaandavan & Co", in thamizh ofcourse...
From: itsmuls on Sun Feb 15 6:04:49 2009.

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550160500.htm

Sentenced to live

A. SRIVATHSAN
The recent Tamil film �Naan Kadavul� raises the question about whether suffering can be cinematically represented without becoming an irresponsible gaze.

This is not a �fairy tale�; it is a film that whips hard at the complacent view of the world that only able bodies inhabit while the rest are ignored, even worse condemned. It is a head-on engagement with the dark subterranean world of mu ltiple cruelties. The recently released Tamil movie �Naan Kadavul� (I am God), to borrow Schopenhauer�s phrase, is about people who are sentenced to live � something crueller than sentence to death. The depiction of poverty and suffering in this movie makes �Slumdog Millionaire� look like a sugar-filled sweet. This landmark film raises, as well answers, the question whether suffering can be cinematically represented without becoming an irresponsible gaze.

Constant captivity
The story is about the unfortunate lot who are abandoned at different phases of their life: people with deformities, maimed men and women, old and sick, abandoned children and the visually handicapped. Their misery and vulnerability is exploited by ruthless mafias who collect them, kidnap and buy if they have to and force them to beggary. Any expression of indignation and insubordination is dealt brutally. As if the violence in their life was not enough, the slave drivers further mutilate the already mutilated. The crippled beggars cannot escape captivity � of the goons and of life. They are afraid to die and, as long as they fear, as one character in the film says, they need something to eat and someone to feed. When their legs cannot carry them, even a crutch of thorns seems agreeable if it takes to them to food.

The story intersects the lives of the beggars with that of an abandoned son who returns to his village as an aghori � a radical sect that practices meditation sitting on corpses and smears their bodies with the ashes from the funeral pyre. When both meet, death prevails and it dawns for a moment. The aghori not only kills the exploiting villains but also does a mercy killing. To the blind woman who pleads to be relieved of the suffering and exploitation, the aghori plays God.

The film is a journey through an inferno and, as it progress, the ring of cruelties increase and intensify. There are no sugar-coated moments. You may either throw away the popcorn or leave the theatre, but you cannot ignore what is on the screen and the life it depicts. Movies like this remind us that the world we inhabit is not described enough. When films search for the less known and the least represented, it may look vain and self-serving exaggeration. To speak about the less spoken is not exploitation; it is the silence that is. Bala, the director of �Naan Kadavul� is known for his films about protagonists who live at the margins. This time, his enquiry extends and embraces the whole world of those who are much more maligned than the marginalised.

It is often thought that the aesthesis of realism will come to our rescue when we wish to depict poverty and suffering. In such presumptions, real is taken as given. But films including �Nan Kadavul� look at how distinctions between the real and the mythical are blurred. To tell the story of the less known, one tries to go beyond the existing lexicon of images. This does not amount to an exaggeration nor is it manipulative. The movie works hard to show normal is not as normal as we think it to be, but a privileged position. It mounts a serious critique on the notions and constructs about a normal body.

Serious critique
In a disturbing sequence of shots in the beginning, faces and bodies are examined. The physical severance is real and shown in detail. The film dwells on this not in a perverse manner but leverages it to contrast it with the abnormally tall, ideally virile and athletically agile bodies. It locates the less privileged in the subterranean cells and quickly cuts to meander through the temple on the hilltop. The film gallops through a serious of juxtaposition � the chattering beggars and silent aghori, the poor in tatters and the over clothed pilgrims, drudgery of the marginal and drugged intoxication of the cannabis-smoking sadhus.

In the final sequence, the film offers mercy killing as a solution to the blind girl, while the other beggars appear shocked and confused. Should they go for it too? It chides the failed State that has let the dictates of evil rule, but that is not where the provocation lies. By killing the sufferer, the movie frames the question in the ethical realm and not in the political. This is certain to provoke debates and that is where movies such as �Naan Kadavaul�, that are boldly conceived and brilliantly performed, succeed.
From: raja_fan on Sun Feb 15 7:11:49 2009.

The same The Hindu Magazine slams SDM

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550180500.htm
From: sarna_blr on Sun Feb 15 7:36:30 2009.

raja_fan wrote:

The same The Hindu Magazine slams SDM

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550180500.htm

wts the point
From: Jyothsna on Sun Feb 15 7:46:26 2009.

raja_fan wrote:

The same The Hindu Magazine slams SDM

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550180500.htm

Avangala porutha varaikum unnmaya sonna thapillai..Athai oru velinattu director sonathuthan thappu...
From: raja_fan on Sun Feb 15 7:48:27 2009.

Special programme on NK at 5.30 PM today on Vijay TV !

From: ajaybaskar on Sun Feb 15 7:50:22 2009.

Jyothsna wrote:

The same The Hindu Magazine slams SDM

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550180500.htm

Avangala porutha varaikum unnmaya sonna thapillai..Athai oru velinattu director sonathuthan thappu... Embarassed

Exactly...Pure jealousy....

Back to NK, we have a spl programme in Kalaignar tv today at 7.30 pm IST.

From: Vivasaayi on Sun Feb 15 7:52:19 2009.

ajaybaskar,

jealousy?...for hindu newspaper?...on whom? lol
From: ajaybaskar on Sun Feb 15 8:02:48 2009.

Not for Hindu paper,dear. For ppl like Hariharan, Priyadarsan, etc,etc..

நம்மால முடியாட்டி மூடிட்டாச்சும் இருக்கலாம்ல.. அது நொட்ட, இது நொள்ளைனு ஒப்பாரி மட்டும் வக்க வர்றாங்க.....

From: raja_fan on Sun Feb 15 8:41:15 2009.

Quote:

நம்மால முடியாட்டி மூடிட்டாச்சும் இருக்கலாம்ல.. அது நொட்ட, இது நொள்ளைனு ஒப்பாரி மட்டும் வக்க வர்றாங்க.....

On the same logic, why do you expect every one to worship SDM ?

He has put some valid questions. You can try to answer it instead of your own oppaari

From: crajkumar_be on Sun Feb 15 8:59:20 2009.

Jyothsna wrote:

The same The Hindu Magazine slams SDM

http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/02/15/stories/2009021550180500.htm

Avangala porutha varaikum unnmaya sonna thapillai..Athai oru velinattu director sonathuthan thappu... Embarassed

Jyothsna,
Did you even read the article? Though i don't agree with some of the points, i found some of the points similar to my views. FYI, he starts the very article with the disclaimer "I'm ok with the image thing". He picks on the execution, not on the image thing.
Sorry to continue the dig here but your reply symbolizes the reaction of anyone who likes SDM (for obvious reasons) - criticize panravan enna solraan ne paakkaama "jealousy", "vaitherichal" nu solradhellam velaikkaagaadhu

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Sun Feb 15 9:17:45 2009.

Padam konjam incomplete-a irrukura maadhri oru feeling, yaarukaachum appadi thonucha?
From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 15 9:46:02 2009.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Padam konjam incomplete-a irrukura maadhri oru feeling, yaarukaachum appadi thonucha?

Rombave incomplete. Enakum thonichu

Concept of God semma sodhapal.

Beggars dunno what he is trying to tell!!!!

Arya why is he killing villians.

Padame mega sodhapal.

From: ajaybaskar on Sun Feb 15 9:50:05 2009.

He has put some valid questions. You can try to answer it instead of your own oppaari Smile

Quote:

On the same logic, why do you expect every one to worship SDM ? Smile

I never expected anyone to worship SDM. Even i know that SDM is not the best movie I have ever seen in my life. Oscars have been awarded to even worser movies. But no one questioned the creditability of the academy awards then. Now ppl have come from no where to criticize the movie when there is an indian touch given to it. Long live democracy!!!

From: ajaybaskar on Sun Feb 15 9:51:14 2009.

Padam konjam incomplete-a irrukura maadhri oru feeling, yaarukaachum appadi thonucha?

Rombave incomplete. Enakum thonichu Very Happy

Concept of God semma sodhapal.

Beggars dunno what he is trying to tell!!!!

Arya why is he killing villians.

Padame mega sodhapal.

4.5 hrs padatha 2.5 hrs padama surukkuna ippadithaan ayidum..

From: A_Ajith on Sun Feb 15 9:52:18 2009.

Padam konjam incomplete-a irrukura maadhri oru feeling, yaarukaachum appadi thonucha?

Rombave incomplete. Enakum thonichu Very Happy

Concept of God semma sodhapal.

Beggars dunno what he is trying to tell!!!!

Arya why is he killing villians.

Padame mega sodhapal.

4.5 hrs padatha 2.5 hrs padama surukkuna ippadithaan ayidum..

From: HonestRaj on Sun Feb 15 10:24:17 2009.

Does Pooja gave her own voice? or a Dubbed one?
From: HonestRaj on Sun Feb 15 10:28:45 2009.

Reality hits you hard -- Naan Kadavul

Genre: Drama

Director: Bala

Cast: Aarya, Puja, Krishnamurthy, Rajendran

Storyline: Abandoned in Kasi, the boy grows up into an Aghori and enters his native village�

Bottomline: A rare offering for intrepid folks who plump for true-to-life depictions �

It�s hard-hitting, disturbing � and real! If the resilience of the underprivileged is a much-discussed aspect of �Slumdog Millionaire,� wait till you catch up with Vasan Visual Ventures� �Naan Kadavul� (U/A!) . All the same, the strand of intelligent humour that runs through the entire film, the �aghori� phenomenon, the positive attitude of the penniless and the camaraderie they share lend new perspectives.

Bala�s protagonists are a rare species. You�ll probably never come across a character of an �aghori� like Rudran or Kaala Bhairavan in cinema, but he is the hero of �Naan Kadavul.� Whether �Aham Brahmasmi� is a pronouncement, belief or myth, is immaterial. But in taking it up as the theme, weaving a story around it and giving it a racy screenplay, Bala proves once again that he�s a director who thinks differently.

The promos
All the while the promos gave you to believe that Aarya is the pivot of the story. Puja�s equal or even weightier role had been kept under wraps. But she bowls you over with a stunning essay of a visually challenged beggar woman with a mesmerising voice! The grime, the faded attire, the old black thread with a soiled pendant around her neck � it takes a while to recognise Puja when she is first shown singing and begging on a train. And her agony is shockingly real! Quite a challenge, especially when her eyes are blinded by lens!

As for Aarya, giving three years to a film at a time when your career is beginning to take off is a risky proposition. Aarya dared and has turned up trumps! The hero�s eyes are an asset and Bala exploits their potential to the optimum. The voice modulation, ruthless and unfeeling as it is, adds to the impact. Astrologers� predictions make a father (Azhagan Tamizhmani) take his young, ill-fated son Rudran to Varanasi and leave him in a math there. Fourteen years pass by. Smitten by guilt and nagged by a sickly wife who yearns to see the son, the father returns to Kasi looking for him. He finds him (Aarya) as a ganja smoking sanyasi, an �aghori.� The father brings him to his home in Malaikovil, down South, where the caves house anti-social elements posing as god men to escape the Law, and beggary thrives as a lucrative industry around the temple atop the hill. Kaala Bhairavan believes he is God and he is bestowed with the power to differentiate between the good and the evil. Wrong doers cannot escape his wrath �

Murugan (Krishnamurthy) a soft-hearted, sympathetic �owner� of a group of beggars does an excellent job of the role. He and his folks bring in the much-needed levity to an otherwise heavy subject. And if you find Thandavan, who heads the beggar mafia, menacing and loathsome, the credit goes to Rajendran who dons the part.

New faces
The number of new faces is 175! And their spontaneity is amazing! Most of them are physically challenged and a few mentally too. Your heart goes out to their suffering but after a point it becomes too much to take. Yet, despite their condition they are able to pull each other�s legs and have as much fun as possible. Topping the list is the much-challenged Eli (Senthil) who is perceptive and intelligent and has others in splits with his witticisms! Dialogue (Jayamohan) is a great value-addition of �Naan Kadavul.� The opening composition that accompanies the titles indicates that Ilaiyaraja is all set to score impressively on the enticing field that Bala has set for him! Re-recording is awesome � the scenes between the mother (Bharati) and Rudran, and the fight sequences are two of the many examples of Ilaiyaraja�s composing acumen. For the nth time Vaali proves that age and mental agility have nothing to do with each other! The words of �Om Shivoham� are spell-binding.

Arthur A. Wilson�s career as cinematographer touches a new high here. Every moment of his three-year effort is worth it! Art (Krishnamurthy) gives a feeling of d�j� vu at times because you have seen similar dens in Bala�s �Sethu,� but the realism of the hill and landscape is striking. �Super� Subbarayan�s skill is to the fore � the fight sequences look so natural! Editing (Suresh Urs) is another highlight � relevantly placed close-ups and apt scissoring keep the narrative racy throughout.

Even those who boast of being bold enough to enjoy sordid crime thrillers and supernatural spine chillers on screen could find the starkness of �Naan Kadavul,� a little too much to stomach. Probably never before has the fate of the poverty stricken lot caught in the quagmire of beggary been so graphically portrayed in cinema. And that includes films such as �Salaam Bombay� and the recent �Slumdog��

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/02/13/stories/2009021350520200.htm

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Not sure whether it has been posted before
From: HonestRaj on Sun Feb 15 10:44:32 2009.

�God� of a different kind

Director Bala dwells on the making of �Naan Kadavul,� a film which presents rare insights.

It is three years since I met Bala as a newly married filmmaker, happy with the response his �Pithamagan� had received. It was a journey back in time for him from childhood, adolescence and youth to his emergence as a filmmaker of repute. This time too the freewheeling chat with Bala at Hotel Green Park goes on for quite a while as the director shares his cherished moments during the making of �Naan Kadavul.�

If the sexton in �Pithamagan� was new to cinema, the sanyasi in �Naan Kadavul� is even more so. That�s probably because Bala consciously seeks characters who have never been conceived as film material. The maker laughs, �After �Pithamagan� I felt people expected something different from me. It was then I thought of the aghoris in Kasi.�

Sitting in the South of the country, Bala has gathered so much information about this group of sanyasis that they look genuine and authentic. �The idea germinated when I visited Kasi long ago. Once I decided an aghori will be the protagonist in my film, I went there again to study their lifestyle,� begins Bala. Alone? �I had four others with me. Aghoris are generally aggressive. And by just looking at you they can gauge whether you are good or bad. But once they allow you to get close to them they are like children��

Did he actually watch them eating human flesh? �Yes, I did! But even my friends who accompanied me will come to know of it only when they read this piece. I didn�t want them to get scared or think I�m strange, though I know some do,� he laughs and adds, �I would visit them at midnight, when they actually eat flesh. People believe that if an aghori pulls out the bodies of their kith or kin in the burning ghat to be consumed, it is a straight ticket to heaven! They don�t eat all the bodies, they know who deserve it. Aarya has aped their gait and glare to perfection,� Bala goes on as I sit dumbstruck! �Did you notice the two men in the background in the first song? They are real aghoris. As for the subject of beggars, the inspiration is Jayamohan�s book, �Ezhaam Ulagam,�� he informs.

But why is anger a predominant trait of all his leading men? �Ilaiyaraja asked me the same. Now my anger is all gone. So my next hero won�t have a temper,� he replies.

About the actors
According to Bala, it was Aarya�s eyes that made him the right choice for the role. �His eyes are very unsympathetic� just like an aghori baba�s. He�s done a splendid job. Again I had seen Puja on screen and always thought she was a tall girl. So I was quite sceptical when my assistants wanted me to meet her. But I saw that she was actually small-made. She was not in the least fastidious,� he recalls. Puja plays a visually impaired girl and so an opaque white lens which blinded her completely was used. �She really couldn�t see. It must have frightened her, but she didn�t say so. Even when the camera was behind her while she tries to escape the villains, I insisted she run on the hillside with the lens on. She stumbled often and bruised herself. She must have been in pain but never showed it,� he says.

But why present such graphic, gruesome images? �Unfettered by commercial gimmicks, �Naan Kadavul� showcases reality. So there�s no place for duets here. But the undercurrent of humour throughout gives more respite than romantic songs would! So actually the commercial elements are many �� he laughs.

In the film, every time a distress call is heard you wait with bated breath for the aghori to enter and punish the offenders. But the hero takes his own time for punitive measures. �I planned it that way. The character should be awaited eagerly. It�s a ploy to enhance the impact,� smiles Bala.

About the maestro he says: �I know that Ilaiyaraja�s music can set right the mistakes and camouflage the minor slips I commit. It has worked out this time too.�

The foremost question on the film buff�s mind is the three-year span that Bala has taken to complete �Naan Kadavul.� But once you watch the movie, the time, you realise, is quite warranted. Training so many challenged and differently-abled folks who have never watched a film in their lives to emote before the camera is no mean task. �They were with the unit on all the 200 days of shoot. I miss them �� he says. As climbing up the hill was impossible for most of them, they were carried in �dolis,� or by the light men. A caretaker was arranged for each of them. �Their spirit, despite the odds, fascinates me. And the rapport was so good that by the time the film got over the technicians knew every actor in the group by name!

�During the making of the film I felt a little guilty about putting Puja and Aarya to so much trouble. Their co-operation was phenomenal. Now after the response it has evoked I�m happy for my contribution to their careers. In fact I feel both responsible and anxious about the kind of projects they would take up in the future�� he laughs.

How does he rate �Naan Kadavul?� �The best among my four films! You have to keep growing, right?�

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/02/13/stories/2009021350460100.htm

From: Vivasaayi on Sun Feb 15 11:18:26 2009.

He has put some valid questions. You can try to answer it instead of your own oppaari Smile

Quote:

On the same logic, why do you expect every one to worship SDM ? Smile

really?...come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Sanjeevi on Sun Feb 15 13:28:28 2009.

யார் சொன்னது ஆர்யா வரும் நேரம் குறைவு, அவர் நடிப்பு ஓகே மட்டுமே என்று. மனிதர் பின்னி இருக்கிறார் தன்னால் முடிந்த அளவு. நாயகன், நாயகி, வில்லன், துணை பாத்திரங்கள், சும்மா வந்து போகும் பாத்திரங்கள் என எந்த நடிகர் ஆனாலும் தன்னால் தனக்கு தேவையானவற்றை அவர்களிடமிருந்து வெளிக்கொண்டுவந்த பாலாவுக்கு தலை வணங்குகிறேன்

இளையராஜா இசையில் பிச்சு உதறி இருக்கிறார் என்று சொன்னால் அது குறை . மனிதர் படத்தை எவ்வளவு உள்வாங்கி இருக்கிறார். ஆரம்பத்தில் இருந்து முடிவு வரை என்ன ஒரு இசை பிரவாகம், ஒரு உதாரணம், இடைவேளையின்போது வரும் இசைவேள்வி

படத்தை இன்னும் சில தடவைகள் பார்க்க விரும்புகிறேன். படம் புரியவில்லை என்பதற்காக இல்லை படத்தை இன்னும் அனுபவிக்க விரும்புவதால்.

Brilliant movie
very powerful movie
From: Sanjeevi on Sun Feb 15 13:48:53 2009.

Director touch

1. climax - நெற்றியில் இருந்து ரத்தம் வழிவதும், கடைசிக்காட்சியில் ரத்தம் வழிவதில் ஆரம்பித்து மேலே செல்லும் ஷாட்

2. court scene - ஆர்யாவினால் கதறி அழும் குழந்தை

3. humors in the world of beggers - paint , பிச்சைகாரன்கிட்ட இருந்தே பிட்சை கேட்க ஆரம்புச்சுட்ட , முழு சம்மதத்தோட அனுப்பனும்னா அனுப்பு , தொழிலதிபர்

4. வடிவேலு காமெடியில் வருபவர் character - just a brilliant reference to a common man
From: Sanjeevi on Sun Feb 15 13:53:33 2009.

எல்லாத்தையும் விட, இந்த மாதிரி பிச்சைகாரர்கள், அருவருப்பானவர்கள் மேல் இதற்கு முன் கொண்டிராத அன்பையும் பரிதாபத்தையும் இந்த படம் பார்த்த எத்தனையோ மக்களிடம் கொண்டு வந்ததற்காக
Bala
From: vasanth2006 on Sun Feb 15 17:07:23 2009.

Arya, Pooja in Koffee with Anu.....very nice show....They are made for each other.....

http://tamil.techsatish.net/file/koffee-with-anu-17/

http://www.blog.isaitamil.net/category/vijay-tv-shows/kofee-with-anu/
From: groucho070 on Sun Feb 15 21:20:09 2009.

The film really looks like a big chunk has been cut out. Does anyone know what is the actual length of the film?
From: directhit on Sun Feb 15 21:24:39 2009.

HonestRaj wrote:

Does Pooja gave her own voice? or a Dubbed one?
own voice - NA nichayam
From: Hulkster on Sun Feb 15 21:25:29 2009.

SS am with you about that. Felt the same way at the start but after revisiting makes alot of sense. Should not have read those newspaper articles they really confused our imagination of the movie. I think the plotline would be that Arya is the saviour for those physically challenged who have no help for their needs.
From: Hulkster on Sun Feb 15 21:26:20 2009.

groucho070 wrote:

The film really looks like a big chunk has been cut out. Does anyone know what is the actual length of the film?

3 Hours plus.
From: groucho070 on Sun Feb 15 21:51:31 2009.

(Might have spoilers here)

Thanks Hulk. Explains some continuity issue.

Like, Pooja reappearance in the den after her "conversion".

Then, when the inevitable confrontation at the end, Arya may have dealt with others before Thandavan? The scene looks sudden.

From: Mahen on Sun Feb 15 22:02:47 2009.

Quote:

�I would visit them at midnight, when they actually eat flesh. People believe that if an aghori pulls out the bodies of their kith or kin in the burning ghat to be consumed, it is a straight ticket to heaven! They don�t eat all the bodies, they know who deserve it

Oru chinna confusion...Then why arya ate the malayali guy?And why he did not eat pooja?

From: raja_fan on Sun Feb 15 22:38:54 2009.

Mahen,

avarukku appo pasikkale
From: dell_gt on Sun Feb 15 22:57:19 2009.

its sunday mid-night 12.10am show Mid valley... the hall FULL.. n its 2nd week... thats really good

a must watch movie...each frame of the movie looks fresh and different....

Plus
-Rajs sir BGM was top notch, important hero
-Aarya
-Pooja
-Bala

hope can get un-cencored version...going again tonight ...

From: groucho070 on Sun Feb 15 23:59:58 2009.

dell_gt wrote:

its sunday mid-night 12.10am show Mid valley... the hall FULL.. n its 2nd week... thats really good Thumbs Up!

a must watch movie...each frame of the movie looks fresh and different....

Half full-ah? Half empty-ah?

Anyway, here at my neighbourhood theatre, initially I saw many patrons. Then, realised they all went for special Valentines day screening of Varanam Ayiram

Ingga less than 10 folks only (and one had little kid, who was crying intermittently)

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 16 0:06:08 2009.

Watched it 2nd time at Fame Lido on Saturday evening. Not hosuefull, at least 2 rows empty.
Paid more attention to the title song this time (Kunal 'Ganja'walla paadiya uruppadiyana rendavadhu paadal), and the BGM also.
Mudhalla sonna madhiri, 1st BGM > 2nd half BGM. Hits the ground running with his moving pieces for the initial scenes.
The percussion theme for Thandavan - 'kaali. Thalabadhi 'clash' theme madhiri fireworks. The deliberate loud flourish for Arya's routhram

The panthuvarali(?) theme for Arya's identification parade
Pooja's "Kannil Parvai: theme :

P.S: Padam mudinju veliya varumbodhu munnaala irundha oru gendilmEn, "Yaaru pa director?", his friend "Sethu eduthaan-illa, adhe director"

From: dell_gt on Mon Feb 16 0:18:56 2009.

Quote:

dell_gt wrote:
its sunday mid-night 12.10am show Mid valley... the hall FULL.. n its 2nd week... thats really good

a must watch movie...each frame of the movie looks fresh and different....

Half full-ah? Half empty-ah?

Anyway, here at my neighbourhood theatre, initially I saw many patrons. Then, realised they all went for special Valentines day screening of Varanam Ayiram Ingga less than 10 folks only (and one had little kid, who was crying intermittently)

its FULL... HOUSEFULL

From: groucho070 on Mon Feb 16 0:21:35 2009.

dell_gt wrote:

Quote:

its FULL... HOUSEFULL

My mishtake! I didn't see the "l". Looks like I think it's doing well in major areas. Good.

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Feb 16 0:23:08 2009.

Oru chinna confusion...Then why arya ate the malayali guy?And why he did not eat pooja?

Quote:

Is it?! Sathyam-la andha scene cut. Neraya cut, interval-um serthu 2 hours 20 mins thaan oduchu. Last oru 25 mins sync-ey illa.

From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 16 0:24:20 2009.

groucho070 wrote:

Anyway, here at my neighbourhood theatre, initially I saw many patrons. Then, realised they all went for special Valentines day screening of Varanam Ayiram Evil or Very Mad

Ingga less than 10 folks only (and one had little kid, who was crying intermittently)

Intha kodumai entha areas-la nadakkuthu???

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 16 0:24:39 2009.

Oru chinna confusion...Then why arya ate the malayali guy?And why he did not eat pooja?

Quote:

Is it?! Sathyam-la andha scene cut. Neraya cut, interval-um serthu 2 hours 20 mins thaan oduchu. Last oru 25 mins sync-ey illa.

SS,

Entha theatre-laiyum andha scene illa. But that's what we inferred.

From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 16 0:25:18 2009.

The humor in Bala's movies is special. And adhula parunga, the humor is the only thing in this movie in particular (and to some extent in his other films) that can be thought of as "compromises" - well, one can't call it even that (compromise) because its seems to be an intrinsic part of the film. Thinikkappatta feeling-e varaadhu...
Bala interview la sonna madhiri they give some 'relief'.

Andha scenes ku, the whole theater was in splits
From: NOV on Mon Feb 16 0:25:25 2009.

groucho070 wrote:

Anyway, here at my neighbourhood theatre, initially I saw many patrons. Then, realised they all went for special Valentines day screening of Varanam Ayiram

I am pretty sure you didnt catch Silluni Oru Kaadhal which was shown in conjunction with Valentines, not only in Astro, but also in Govt owned RTM.

about NK, I still have not had the opportunity to watch it yet and hope to do so this weekend. Until then, have not read any of the comments in this thread.
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 16 0:26:59 2009.

NOV wrote:

Until then, have not read any of the comments in this thread.

Thats the best thing to do for movies which are n your "looking forward to" list

From: groucho070 on Mon Feb 16 0:29:41 2009.

NOV wrote:

groucho070 wrote:

Anyway, here at my neighbourhood theatre, initially I saw many patrons. Then, realised they all went for special Valentines day screening of Varanam Ayiram

I am pretty sure you didnt catch Silluni Oru Kaadhal which was shown in conjunction with Valentines, not only in Astro, but also in Govt owned RTM. LOL

about NK, I still have not had the opportunity to watch it yet Crying or Very sad

and hope to do so this weekend. Until then, have not read any of the comments in this thread. Sigh2

Yeah, I noticed it SOK was playing in both channels. Lost interest in watching "safe" movie. NK is the kind of movies I am looking forward to seeing in TFI. Intha mathiri niraya padam varanum. Good mix of earthy grittiness, humour and very, very generic.

And don't read the comments, some have major spoilers.

From: Nerd on Mon Feb 16 0:48:36 2009.

The humor in Bala's movies is special. And adhula parunga, the humor is the only thing in this movie in particular (and to some extent in his other films) that can be thought of as "compromises" - well, one can't call it even that (compromise) because its seems to be an intrinsic part of the film. Thinikkappatta feeling-e varaadhu...
Bala interview la sonna madhiri they give some 'relief'.

Andha scenes ku, the whole theater was in raptures

Jeyamohan's witty one-liners were terripic. I am still laughing thinking of many scenes in the film.

Has anybody read yEzhavadhu ulagam?

From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 16 0:52:06 2009.

-deleted with warning-

From: Nerd on Mon Feb 16 0:57:34 2009.

vasanth2006 wrote:

Arya, Pooja in Koffee with Anu.....very nice show....They are made for each other.....

http://tamil.techsatish.net/file/koffee-with-anu-17/

http://www.blog.isaitamil.net/category/vijay-tv-shows/kofee-with-anu/

Watching it. Arya

very naansans.
- Carries pooja to the seat
- orE the konjals, in fact pooja kisses him on the cheek

From: complicateur on Mon Feb 16 1:20:54 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Watching it. Arya very naansans.
- Carries pooja to the seat
- orE the konjals, in fact pooja kisses him on the cheek

Techsatish-la oru comment:
"Nalla frensip... Arya silip aagaama pArthukkappA"
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 16 1:22:30 2009.

Seriously, i'm expecting some reactions from protectors of Thamizh/Indian cultures.
From: complicateur on Mon Feb 16 1:24:50 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Seriously, i'm expecting some reactions from protectors of Thamizh/Indian cultures.

"Sinna puLLainga.. konjam appadi ippadi thAn irukkum" enRa dialaak sollum oru periyavar iruppArE ellA cinema-layum... There ought to be someone like that in reality as well.
From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 16 1:26:02 2009.

I was about to quote the exact dialogue
Aana adhukku oru counter varum "Panjayum neruppayum pakkathula vecha ippadi thaan aagum"
From: Nerd on Mon Feb 16 1:28:05 2009.

complicateur wrote:

Techsatish-la oru comment:
"Nalla frensip... Arya silip aagaama pArthukkappA"

techsatish (comments) is the second best thing in the internet after rediff boards. Btw, idhu maadhiri ellAm nadakkumnu therinjirundhA naanum 3 years dhaadi vaLarthu nadikka pOyiruppEn.
From: directhit on Mon Feb 16 1:28:08 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

P.S: Padam mudinju veliya varumbodhu munnaala irundha oru gendilmEn, "Yaaru pa director?", his friend "Sethu eduthaan-illa, adhe director"

'oh, this piece, crazy bugger' nyabagam varudhu

From: complicateur on Mon Feb 16 1:30:14 2009.

Techsatish-la oru comment:
"Nalla frensip... Arya silip aagaama pArthukkappA" ROTFL

techsatish (comments) is the second best thing in the internet after rediff boards. Btw, idhu maadhiri ellAm nadakkumnu therinjirundhA naanum 3 years dhaadi vaLarthu nadikka pOyiruppEn.

thaadigaL ellAm tagore-a, meesai ellAm bharathiyA... dhaadi vaLarthA ellAm pooja-vA?

Honestly, the more I see of pooja (pun unintended) the more I like her.

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Feb 16 1:44:24 2009.

Techsatish-la oru comment:
"Nalla frensip... Arya silip aagaama pArthukkappA" ROTFL

techsatish (comments) is the second best thing in the internet after rediff boards. Btw, idhu maadhiri ellAm nadakkumnu therinjirundhA naanum 3 years dhaadi vaLarthu nadikka pOyiruppEn.

neenga valatheengana love pailiure-nu nenachupAngO!

From: Dilbert on Mon Feb 16 2:04:35 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

I was about to quote the exact dialogue
Aana adhukku oru counter varum "Panjayum neruppayum pakkathula vecha ippadi thaan aagum"

hayoo pathekechee... EKSI engaooru poona .. eppadi sandhee sereka veachitangalea

From: Nasc on Mon Feb 16 2:22:59 2009.

very naansans.
- Carries pooja to the seat
- orE the konjals, in fact pooja kisses him on the cheek Shocked

vasanth2006 wrote:

Watching it. Arya Twisted Evil

me too watched it in awe...anu was like

wasnt bad-ngo.....true friendship(pun-oru 2 varshathla kalyanam panipanga

)

From: SoftSword on Mon Feb 16 2:42:27 2009.

Oru chinna confusion...Then why arya ate the malayali guy?And why he did not eat pooja?

Quote:

Is it?! Sathyam-la andha scene cut. Neraya cut, interval-um serthu 2 hours 20 mins thaan oduchu. Last oru 25 mins sync-ey illa.

SS,

Entha theatre-laiyum andha scene illa. But that's what we inferred.

this is totally a wrong inference in my opinion...
as bala has told in an interview, the aghoris wont eat everybody...
they jus eat the flesh of people whom they think are done with their life as human being and they hav tallied their paava kanakku which they hav got from their previous jenamas and no need to come in any other jenmam....

and for that reason they eat them, eat in the sense, not the complete body, they would just pull out one part of the body and jus eat a piece... which for them means that now their body wont be complete for them to return in next jenmam and so they are free...

so rudhran does not eat that malayali guy... but he eats pooja after mercy killing her, cos she was punished well in this jenmam for all her previous jenmas crimes....

this is been censored and so after u are shown with the throat cut scene of pooja, suddenly u r shown with arya coming out with ash all over his face which usually they do after eating and after every body part is burnt to ashes...

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 16 2:56:18 2009.

Then why couldn't police find out the dead-body of Nair? And why Arya says "Vayithukkalla irukkan" while replying to judge?
From: SoftSword on Mon Feb 16 3:03:13 2009.

littlemaster1982 wrote:

Then why couldn't police find out the dead-body of Nair? And why Arya says "Vayithukkalla irukkan" while replying to judge?

that jus means that he has burnt him...
i dono if he has given him moksham while burning him... or he means that he is punished for all this earlier crimes....

my point is, they wont eat everyone...

From: SoftSword on Mon Feb 16 3:05:20 2009.

for re-visit

�GOD� of a different kind

Director Bala talks to malathi rangarajan about the challenges he faced making the film Naan Kadavul

It is three years since I met Bala as a newly-married filmmaker, happy with the response his Pithamagan had received. It was a journey back in time for him from childhood, adolescence and youth to his emergence as a filmmaker of re pute. This time too, the freewheeling chat at Hotel Green Park goes on for quite a while as he shares his cherished moments during the making of Naan Kadavul.

If the sexton in Pithamagan was new to cinema, the sanyasi in Naan Kadavul is even more so. That�s probably because Bala consciously seeks characters who have never been conceived as film material. The maker laughs: �After Pithamagan I felt people expected something different from me. It was then I thought of the aghoris in Kasi.�

Authentic portrayal

Sitting in the South of the country, Bala has gathered so much information about this group of sanyasis that they look authentic. �The idea germinated when I visited Kasi long ago. Once I decided an aghori will be the protagonist in my film, I went there again to study their lifestyle,� begins Bala. Alone? �I had four others with me. Aghoris are generally aggressive. And, by just looking at you they can gauge whether you are good or bad. But once they allow you to get close to them they are like children��

Did he actually watch them eating human flesh? �Yes, I did! But even my friends who accompanied me will come to know of it only when they read this piece. I didn�t want them to get scared or think I�m strange, though I know some do,� he laughs and adds: � People believe that if an aghori pulls out the bodies of their kith or kin in the burning ghat to be consumed, it is a straight ticket to heaven and assures freedom from rebirth! They don�t eat all the bodies, they know who deserve it. Aarya has aped their gait and glare to perfection,� Bala goes on as I sit dumbstruck! � As for the subject of beggars, the inspiration is Jayamohan�s book, �Ezhaam Ulagam�,� he informs.

According to Bala, it was Aarya�s eyes that made him the right choice for the role. �His eyes are very unsympathetic� just like an aghori baba�s. Again, I had seen Puja on screen and always thought she was a tall girl. So I was quite sceptical when my assistants wanted me to meet her. But I saw that she was actually small-made. She was not in the least fastidious,� he recalls. Puja plays a visually-challenged girl, and so an opaque white lens which blinded her completely was used. �She really couldn�t see. It must have frightened her, but she didn�t say so. Even when the camera was behind her while she tries to escape the villains, I insisted she run on the hillside with the lens on ,� he says.

But why present such graphic, gruesome images? �Unfettered by commercial gimmicks, Naan Kadavul showcases reality. So there�s no place for duets here. But the undercurrent of humour throughout gives more respite than romantic songs would! So actually the commercial elements are many �� he laughs. In the film, every time a distress call is heard you wait with bated breath for the aghori to enter and punish the offenders. But the hero takes his own time for punitive measures. �The character should be awaited eagerly. It�s a ploy to enhance the impact,� smiles Bala.

About the maestro he says: �I know that Ilaiyaraja�s music can set right the mistakes and camouflage the minor slips I commit. It has worked out this time too.�

The foremost question on the film buff�s mind is the three-year span that Bala has taken to complete Naan Kadavul. But once you watch the movie, the time, you realise, is quite warranted. Training so many differently-abled folks who have never watched a film in their lives to emote before the camera is no mean task. �They were with the unit on all the 200 days of shoot. I miss them�� he says. As climbing up the hill was impossible for most of them, they were carried in �dolis�, or by the light men. A caretaker was arranged for each of them. �Their spirit, despite the odds, fascinates me. And, the rapport was so good that by the time the film got over, the technicians knew every actor in the group by name!

�During the making of the film, I felt a little guilty about putting Puja and Aarya to so much trouble. Their co-operation was phenomenal. Now, after the response it has evoked I�m happy for my contribution to their careers. In fact, I feel both responsible and anxious about the kind of projects they would take up in the future�� he laughs.

How does he rate Naan Kadavul? �The best among my four films! You have to keep growing, right?�

http://www.hindu.com/cp/2009/02/13/stories/2009021350010100.htm

From: littlemaster1982 on Mon Feb 16 3:13:32 2009.

Then why couldn't police find out the dead-body of Nair? And why Arya says "Vayithukkalla irukkan" while replying to judge?

that jus means that he has burnt him...
i dono if he has given him moksham while burning him... or he means that he is punished for all this earlier crimes....

my point is, they wont eat everyone...

That's OK. But this moksham thingy is not clear in the film. In one of the initial scenes, Arya gives moksham to one of the burning dead bodies, but he doesn't pull it from the pyre.

From: SoftSword on Mon Feb 16 3:18:46 2009.

guess bala has extracted the ones which are needed and can be shown in the movie... and avoided certain other deeds...

or atleast he would hav shooted those scenes but did not compile it in the final product... we shall write to bala to release a dvd havin a version which was done with full freedom...

From: groucho070 on Mon Feb 16 3:21:00 2009.

guess bala has extracted the ones which are needed and can be shown in the movie... and avoided certain other deeds...

or atleast he would hav shooted those scenes but did not compile it in the final product... we shall write to bala to release a dvd havin a version which was done with full freedom...

Is that possible? To get a "Director's Cut" out?

But looking at the interview, he seems to be okay with the cut. But then, why cut at all? It could have been "Epic" in scale. The length mostly gives it an "Indie" feeling, but that is okay I guess.

From: SoftSword on Mon Feb 16 3:48:03 2009.

groucho070 wrote:

they don jus cut for the screen time adjusment... also for various other reasons...

From: HonestRaj on Mon Feb 16 11:26:18 2009.

directhit wrote:

HonestRaj wrote:

Does Pooja gave her own voice? or a Dubbed one?
own voice - NA nichayam

suveet vaice... really
From: HonestRaj on Mon Feb 16 11:29:47 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

The humor in Bala's movies is special.

Thinikkappatta feeling-e varaadhu...

Andha scenes ku, the whole theater was in splits
From: steveaustin on Mon Feb 16 11:33:38 2009.

Naan Kadavul - No.1 at CBO

Bala�s raw and intense drama is deeply affecting for some and disturbing for others. The gut-wrenching saga about a man raised among sanyasis and vagabonds has had good reviews in its opening week.

Trade Talk:
Upbeat collections reported from all the release centers.

Public Talk:
Pooja�s national award, perhaps.

No. Weeks Completed: 1
No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 172
Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 79%
Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 43,21,701
Total collections in Chennai: Rs. 1.56 Crore

Verdict: Good Opening

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-3/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-naan-kadavul.html
From: HonestRaj on Mon Feb 16 11:40:12 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

The percussion theme for Thandavan - 'kaali. Thalabadhi 'clash' theme madhiri fireworks.

percussion ellam theriyadhu.. aana super BGM.. simple + effective..

Villain attagasam oru scenela jarigai poatta veshti kattikittu iruppan.. appadiye local touch.. charactera enge irundhuthan pidipparo Bala

crajkumar_be wrote:

P.S: Padam mudinju veliya varumbodhu munnaala irundha oru gendilmEn, "Yaaru pa director?", his friend "Sethu eduthaan-illa, adhe director"

ivanugalukkellam Perarasu-than correctu... kadhula nalla kachuna kambiya vittu edukkaradhukku..

I want to use this Gounder dialogue for these people,

vara vara indha thoani thalayanunga lolayi thanga mudiyalai

PS:rendu nala indha dialogue than manasula oadikittu irukku.. evanum mattamattengran use panna
From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 16 13:22:00 2009.

Arya asked Bala during the shooting of NK 'ennaku dialogues kammiyA irukku....screen-la powerful-A irukkumAnnu nenachchA konjam bayamA irukku'

Bala replied 'oNNum problam illa....nee oru madangu senja pOthum....atha paththu madangA Raaja re-recording-la AkkiduvAr... kavalappadAtha'

---Arya on some TV yesterday
From: app_engine on Mon Feb 16 14:23:17 2009.

dinamalar copy/pastes AV & Kumudam vimarsanam here :
http://cinema.dinamalar.com/View_Vimarsanam.aspx?id=55&FlimName=நான்-கடவுள்

From: ajaybaskar on Mon Feb 16 21:16:20 2009.

“I would visit them at midnight, when they actually eat flesh. People believe that if an aghori pulls out the bodies of their kith or kin in the burning ghat to be consumed, it is a straight ticket to heaven! They don’t eat all the bodies, they know who deserve it

Quote:

Oru chinna confusion...Then why arya ate the malayali guy?And why he did not eat pooja?

Is it?! Sathyam-la andha scene cut. Neraya cut, interval-um serthu 2 hours 20 mins thaan oduchu. Last oru 25 mins sync-ey illa.

SS,

Entha theatre-laiyum andha scene illa. But that's what we inferred.

Even i have the same thughts... Just think of the impact the film would've made with that sort of a climax...

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 17 0:22:37 2009.

MGR ditto - dhambi ganEsha, innikku irukkura sondhu sodhusungalukkellaam nadippa sollikudhukkaama pOyiththiyE, ivanunga banra aththooliyam dhaanga mudiyalappaa (and few more words forgot )

Police - sariyaa sonneenga vaathiyaarE nEthu oru padam paaththEn, adhula nadichcha hero mattum enkaila kedachchaan ( censored words )

wn I with friends coming out of Vallavan movie hall, one of my friends uttered same words

// saw the above scene in youtube....
From: complicateur on Tue Feb 17 1:50:46 2009.

An Oldie but a Goodie

From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 17 3:00:30 2009.

Compli thanks for that link Smile

Quote:

குறிப்பாக இதில் நடிக்கும் அரவானி ஒருவர். நான் ஊர்சுற்றிய நாட்களில் அரவானிகளுடன் பழக்கம் இருந்தது. ஆனால் இவரளவுக்கு அழகான எவரையும் கண்டதில்லை. பெண்மையும் ஆண்மையும் கலந்த ஒரு நளினம். அவர் சிரிப்பது நடப்பது எல்லாமே அழகாக இருந்தது. மனித அழகுகளுக்கு எல்லைகளே இல்லை.

There is a brief shot of 'Dimple' during the song 'Ammavum Neeyae' With the yellow light flickering over her face making her look like a goddess. . That was a magical moment for me, she was filled completely with compassion & motherliness. I fell in love with her in that single shot. Embarassed

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 17 5:02:25 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

nEthu oru padam paaththEn, adhula nadichcha hero mattum enkaila kedachchaan ( censored words )

He says "kero"
From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 17 5:16:34 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

sarna_blr wrote:

nEthu oru padam paaththEn, adhula nadichcha hero mattum enkaila kedachchaan ( censored words )

He says "kero"

and i felt that there was another sarcastic touch of bala in that sequence, with respect to the MGR character

man he is awesome....
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 17 5:18:47 2009.

From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 17 5:20:53 2009.

nEthu oru padam paaththEn, adhula nadichcha hero mattum enkaila kedachchaan Rant

( censored words )

He says "kero" Laughing

and i felt that there was another sarcastic touch of bala in that sequence, with respect to the MGR character ROTFL

man he is awesome....

MGR Nayan-a route vidra touches

From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 17 5:31:15 2009.

nEthu oru padam paaththEn, adhula nadichcha hero mattum enkaila kedachchaan Rant

( censored words )

He says "kero" Laughing

and i felt that there was another sarcastic touch of bala in that sequence, with respect to the MGR character ROTFL

man he is awesome....

MGR Nayan-a route vidra touches ROTFL

not jus that...

when the inspector calls pooja, "ei kurudi inga vaa..."
pooja will be walkin with difficulty, by then MGR character would place his hands on her shoulder and push her....

though this could be termed as a helping hand for the blind gal, why was the MGR character chosen to do that?

bala is awesome bala....

From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 17 5:38:40 2009.

SoftSword wrote:

though this could be termed as a helping hand for the blind gal, why was the MGR character chosen to do that?

kai kodukkum dheivam
From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 17 5:53:01 2009.

sarna_blr wrote:

SoftSword wrote:

though this could be termed as a helping hand for the blind gal, why was the MGR character chosen to do that?

kai kodukkum dheivam

kai mattum kudutthaa sari...
From: cancer on Tue Feb 17 8:30:34 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

open talk pls..
From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 17 8:51:02 2009.

cancer wrote:

Prabhu Ram wrote:

open talk pls..

adhanae...
i did not notice this...

wat matter?
From: raja_fan on Tue Feb 17 8:56:38 2009.

http://www.tamilhindu.com/2009/02/movie-review-naan-kadavul/
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 17 9:31:41 2009.

naan appovE mild-a doubt aanEn

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes.

Miss-na miss, Steve Harmison spectra wide maadhiri oru miss.

Some enjoyable laughs salvaging an otherwise macabre afternoon.

ayyA KamalahAsA, ungaLai thaanE nambaNum...vEra yaar irukkA inge namburadhukku ?
From: complicateur on Tue Feb 17 9:38:53 2009.

PR: nAn nenachEn. I decided to assign this disconnect to the overexposure prior to watching the movie. Everything seemed a little less... unprecedented.

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 17 10:48:47 2009.

naan appovE mild-a doubt aanEn

Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes.

Miss-na miss, Steve Harmison spectra wide maadhiri oru miss.

Some enjoyable laughs salvaging an otherwise macabre afternoon.

konja naaLAvE sariyillai. VA-lAm besht..seri vidunga!

ayyA KamalahAsA, ungaLai thaanE nambaNum...vEra yaar irukkA inge namburadhukku ?

Edhu? Bothankizhama remake?!

From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 17 11:18:06 2009.

Nerd, ippo naan pithamaganaiyE re-evaluate paNNura 'viLimbu nilai' la irukkEn.

bodhankizhamai paththi enakku (namakku ?) kOvam varradhukku kAraNamE "arumai perumaiyA vaLaththamE en dEsignu rAsA" appidingradhu naala dhaan.
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Feb 17 11:26:03 2009.

PR, I remember you glorified KT like anything.

In my opinion, NK is way ahead of KT in terms of treatment.
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Feb 17 11:34:34 2009.

One of downsides

Pooja has sung many songs in the film (not the audio CD songs). my doubt is who has/have sung these songs? Pooja? or Madumitha (playback singer) or more than one person?

If all the songs sung by pooja - very good
If all the songs sung by a playback singer - quite good
If all the songs sung by mroe than one playback singer - bad

Moreover, why the background music comes during that songs? again it is bad.

From: SoftSword on Tue Feb 17 11:37:03 2009.

One of downsides

Pooja has sung many songs in the film (not the audio CD songs). my doubt is who has/have sung these songs? Pooja? or Madumitha (playback singer) or more than one person?

If all the songs sung by pooja - very good
If all the songs sung by a playback singer - quite good
If all the songs sung by mroe than one playback singer - bad

Moreover, why the background music comes during that songs? again it is bad.

yeah... i noticed this...
and for every song i felt like they hav played the original song... i mean the voice similar to the one in the original... did they want to say that pooja is a mimicry artist?

From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 17 11:39:26 2009.

I thought they indeed did play the original song each time she sung. Particularly when she sings to Arya..
From: Sanjeevi on Tue Feb 17 11:41:55 2009.

Yeah I too think that they played original song

but appuram ethukku NA ethirpaarkkanum
From: viraajan on Tue Feb 17 11:42:08 2009.

(Theatre'la poi pathutten'gara urimai'la) Downloaded and watched it again.

No the whole movie. Had glimpses.

Mukkiyama, that old man scene....

Eyes were wet
From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 17 11:44:58 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

In my opinion, NK is way ahead of KT in terms of treatment.

KT was quite a quirky movie and it is not possible to like it without caveats. OTOH IMO NK had several good parts interspersed in a mish mash seemingly thrown at us with disdain.
From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 17 11:47:04 2009.

viraajan wrote:

Theatre'la poi pathutten'gara urimai'la Downloaded and watched it again.

Theater la black ticket vikkuravan.. Saturday evening show kku black ticket vikkailaingra urimayila Sunday la black ticket vithaennu sollra maathiri irukku

From: viraajan on Tue Feb 17 11:48:34 2009.

Theatre'la poi pathutten'gara urimai'la Downloaded and watched it again.

Theater la black ticket vikkuravan.. Saturday evening show kku black ticket vikkailaingra urimayila Sunday la black ticket vithaennu sollra maathiri irukku LOL

From: Sanjeevi on Tue Feb 17 11:49:17 2009.

In my opinion, NK is way ahead of KT in terms of treatment.

KT was quite a quirky movie and it is not possible to like it without caveats. OTOH IMO NK had several good parts interspersed in a mish mash seemingly thrown at us with disdain.

Actually I liked very much the plot of KT but Ram's treatment was way below Bala's treatment. But I hope Ram will improve in presentation.

From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 17 11:51:15 2009.

Theatre'la poi pathutten'gara urimai'la Downloaded and watched it again.

Theater la black ticket vikkuravan.. Saturday evening show kku black ticket vikkailaingra urimayila Sunday la black ticket vithaennu sollra maathiri irukku LOL

Still u are not ashamed of ur activity

From: viraajan on Tue Feb 17 11:54:05 2009.

Theatre'la poi pathutten'gara urimai'la Downloaded and watched it again.

Theater la black ticket vikkuravan.. Saturday evening show kku black ticket vikkailaingra urimayila Sunday la black ticket vithaennu sollra maathiri irukku LOL

Still u are not ashamed of ur activity Shocked

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 17 11:55:29 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

Yeah I too think that they played original song

but appuram ethukku NA ethirpaarkkanum

Adhukkum NA-kkum enna connection?

Actually I thought they played the originals to tell us that Pooja sings so well that the listeners are able to match that with the original. Sort of a surrealistic trip for the listeners

From: Sanjeevi on Tue Feb 17 11:57:27 2009.

Yeah I too think that they played original song

but appuram ethukku NA ethirpaarkkanum

Adhukkum NA-kkum enna connection?

Actually I thought they played the originals to tell us that Pooja sings so well that the listeners are able to match that with the original. Sort of a surrealistic trip for the listeners Mr. Green

Athaavathu

NA award qualify-ku a herione should have given her own voice

appuram innonnu, realistic film edukkuren pErvazhi why ippadi pannanum

got it?

From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Feb 17 11:59:36 2009.

Yeah I too think that they played original song

but appuram ethukku NA ethirpaarkkanum

Athaavathu

NA award qualify-ku a herione should have given her own voice

got it?

Errr... So does she have to sing the songs too

From: equanimus on Tue Feb 17 12:00:32 2009.

Sanjeevi,
But it's a song after all, isn't it? What if it's originally from a different film?

From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 17 12:02:14 2009.

Yeah I too think that they played original song

but appuram ethukku NA ethirpaarkkanum

Athaavathu

NA award qualify-ku a herione should have given her own voice

appuram innonnu, realistic film edukkuren pErvazhi why ippadi pannanum

got it?

so u mean Suhasini sang the song Paadariyaen Padipariyaen..

Avanga paadi irunthaa Raahinisri Paadurathae thaevalaamnu ninaichirupoam

Well i understand Original song and the bit songs in this context are different. But still that is fine

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 17 12:04:17 2009.

Btw, NA konjam kastam dhAn. Back-to-back ellAm tharamAttainga for the same category.
From: littlemaster1982 on Tue Feb 17 12:05:29 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Btw, NA konjam kastam dhAn. Back-to-back ellAm tharamAttainga for the same category.

Idheythaan naanum ninaichen. IMO, Pooja deserves it more than Priyamani

From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 17 12:10:16 2009.

naan appovE mild-a doubt aanEn

Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes.

Miss-na miss, Steve Harmison spectra wide maadhiri oru miss.

Some enjoyable laughs salvaging an otherwise macabre afternoon.

Refreshing to see some earnest opinion. Since when the compulsion to clone opinions.

Yet to watch the film.

From: viraajan on Tue Feb 17 12:24:21 2009.

NA'ku different version thaane koduppanga....
From: Vivasaayi on Tue Feb 17 12:35:07 2009.

Nerd wrote:

Btw, NA konjam kastam dhAn. Back-to-back ellAm tharamAttainga for the same category.

shabana azmi hatrick adichangalee
From: Nerd on Tue Feb 17 12:44:54 2009.

Vivasaayi wrote:

Nerd wrote:

Btw, NA konjam kastam dhAn. Back-to-back ellAm tharamAttainga for the same category.

shabana azmi hatrick adichangalee

Avinga Bollywood !!
From: app_engine on Tue Feb 17 13:08:49 2009.

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14857490&cid=13525926
From: venkkiram on Tue Feb 17 17:15:23 2009.

நான் கடவுள் பற்றிய விமர்சன மலைகளுக்கிடையே ஏதோ இந்த மடுவினால் முடிந்தது.

http://karuthu.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4119
From: bimmer on Tue Feb 17 20:08:37 2009.

This is the first Bala movie that I watched in theater. With or without expectations, this movie sucks. I felt like I was watching a movie on the physically handicapped who are exploited and forced into begging. Arya's role in the movie is just a tad more than a guest one. The story appears disjointed, with the story of the suffering handicapped people and Arya's segment connected only by a bare thread of the location.

After witnessing the depressing story of the 'begging industry of India' in 'Slumdog Millionaire', we get to watch it much more elaborately in this movie. I felt that it was definitely overdone, with Bala's famous liking for morbidity going way too far. Beyond a point, their sufferings made me feel sick. The scene involving 'the man with the scary face' could have been handled quite differently. The closing minutes of the movie have some badly edited scenes and the climax appears to be rushed. The only positive aspects of the movie are the performances by Arya and Pooja.

The climatic one-to-one fight between the protagonist and the antagonist appeared to be very amateurish and cinematic to me. The latter knows the fate of the three people who went to attack the former, but still he goes against Arya bare-handed and single-handedly. Pooja's migration from the hill cave to a church and then to the hands of the villain is not explained; especially the last one could have been avoided, saving a lot of pain. The climax was quite undigestible since it reflected the pessimistic mindset of the director.

The technical aspects of the movie are quite good. Music is OK. The long scene in the police station involving look-alikes of MGR, Sivaji and Rajni was quite unnecessary, what with an overdose of such artists in various TV programs, except for a few seconds of an unhappening twist that is to follow. I found one aspect very ironic. Jeyamohan, who is the dialog-writer for this movie, had strongly condemned Sivaji's style of acting in his blog exactly a year ago. In the police station, someone tells the Sivaji-lookalike that he wishes that Sivaji had taught what acting is, to the contemporary actors. Jeyamohan has even removed that attacking post from his blog.

Back to the movie - the only thing that connects this movie with Bala's earlier ones is that he portrays (again) a dark side of the society. Whereas the previous ones had some humanity in them, here it is all dark and violent. True, the guy and his assistant who are in charge of the temple beggars have some soft corner for them. Other than that, it is hard to explain why Arya is shown attacking some people in Varanasi and why he is angry in the movie all the time. And, Arya appears to be too muscular and fleshy for someone who hardly eats any food and is shown surviving only on Ganja.

You might like it if you are a hardcore Bala fan.

http://gpwebdiary.blogspot.com/2009/02/naan-kadavul-give-miss.html

From: vasanth2006 on Tue Feb 17 21:15:44 2009.

Avanga paadi irunthaa Raahinisri Paadurathae thaevalaamnu ninaichirupoam LOL

so u mean Suhasini sang the song Paadariyaen Padipariyaen.. Huh?!

Well i understand Original song and the bit songs in this context are different. But still that is fine Rolling Eyes

From: vasanth2006 on Tue Feb 17 21:25:45 2009.

In my opinion, NK is way ahead of KT in terms of treatment.

KT was quite a quirky movie and it is not possible to like it without caveats. OTOH IMO NK had several good parts interspersed in a mish mash seemingly thrown at us with disdain.

Actually I liked very much the plot of KT but Ram's treatment was way below Bala's treatment. But I hope Ram will improve in presentation.

I got a chance to speak with ram after KT's first show....I requested Ram to present this kind of different theme in simple manner/interesting manner i.e for attracting all levels of viewers just like Bala. ( After KT's first show, he enquired the viewers about the movie.)

KT is such a theme, he could have fine tuned and could have presented better. If it was the case, then we might have got stunner, though that movie is good....

From: directhit on Tue Feb 17 21:57:38 2009.

Quote:

�நான் கடவுள்� - ஒரு பின்னூட்டம்

கண்ணைக் குத்துனாலும் பொட்டுத்தூக்கம் வல்லியே!
ஈனக்குரல் கேக்குறப்ப ஈரக்கொலை நடுங்குதுடா!
நாலு நாளா நான் தவிக்கேன்! அட!
நாசமத்தவனே எங்க பாலா!

அல்லாறையும்போல ரெண்டு குத்தாட்டம், பரதேசத்து டூயட்டு மூணு,
தாலி பாக்கிய செண்டிமெண்டைப் போட்டுத்தாக்கி படமெடுத்தா ஆகாதா?
காலே இல்லாத கசுமால சென்மங்களின் ஓலத்தை ஒலிபரப்பி
நாங்க நாண்டுகிட்டுச் சாவணும்னு நெனைக்கிறியே படுபாவி!

போய்யா ஒன்னோட இதே ரோதனை,
நீ தமிளனுக்கு வந்த சோதனை!
பணம் பணம்னு அலையுற பொணந்தின்னிப் பயலுவளை
நோவாமக் காட்டி நோம்பி கும்பிட்டுப் போவியா!

செத்தும் சாவாம சாக்கடைக்குள் கெடக்குற
சீவனுங்களை நெஞ்சில் ஒலவவுட்டு வேடிக்கை பாக்குறியே!
சந்தியில ஒக்காந்து அளுது முடிச்சாலும் சோகம் தாங்கலியே!
சிந்திப் பூசினாலும் வீச்சம் போகலியே!

கண்ணைக் குத்துனாலும் பொட்டுத்தூக்கம் வல்லியே!
ஈனக்குரல் கேக்குறப்ப ஈரக்கொலை நடுங்குதுடா!
நாலு நாளா நான் தவிக்கேன்! அட!
நாசமத்தவனே எங்க பாலா!

காரிய செவிடா நாங்க, காதுகாதுன்னா வேதுவேதுன்னு போகையில
கர்பத்தைக் கலங்க வெச்சு சேதுசேதுவா மாத்தி நோகடிச்சவனே!
எவனுக்கோ என்னவோ நடக்குதுன்னு நடுத்தர சனங்க தாண்டி நடக்கையில
எமனையே முந்திக்கிட்டு பொழப்பை முடிச்சுக்கட்டி, பொறப்பை அழிச்சவனே!

சில்லறையைப் பாத்தாலே சோறு எறங்கலடா! நான்
கல்லறைக்குப் போறமட்டும் கவளம் கசக்குமடா!

கண்ணைக் குத்துனாலும் பொட்டுத்தூக்கம் வல்லியே!
ஈனக்குரல் கேக்குறப்ப ஈரக்கொலை நடுங்குதுடா!
நாலு நாளா நான் தவிக்கேன்! அட!
நாசமத்தவனே எங்க பாலா!

http://karuthu.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4119&PID=87704#87704

From: venkkiram on Tue Feb 17 22:51:32 2009.

bimmer wrote:

Music is OK.

eager to know which film music you can rate as the best. provide valid points why you consider naan kadavul music is OK kind of.

From: Nerd on Tue Feb 17 23:46:47 2009.

And, Arya appears to be too muscular and fleshy for someone who hardly eats any food and is shown surviving only on Ganja.

http://gpwebdiary.blogspot.com/2009/02/naan-kadavul-give-miss.html

Icing on the cake.

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 18 0:33:05 2009.

Shabba PR! Neengalum oru 2-3 pakkathukku padatha aahaa, ohoo-nu pughaznthu puriyadha english-la ezhudhuveenga-nu nenachu bayandhuten.
I watched it again; still this trimmed incomplete story can be rated between average to above average. [ I am excluding Characters, Arya, Pooja and Music of course]
Kattradhu Thamizh is better than Naan Kadavul, definitely.
From: Nerd on Wed Feb 18 0:46:54 2009.

KatRadhu thamizhA (though a good pilim) rejetted outright. 30% of the scenes were bad in KT. Jeeva's outburst against a BPO worker after getting drunk for example. . What a horrible scene! Bad acting, terrible dialogues etc. Sildhood louu scene, sangar-ish scenes towards the end etc. . Adhu maadhiri oru kappithanamaana scene kooda NK-la illai. The movie is sort of disjoint in the second half, I agree, but almost all the scenes were just perfect. Brilliant acting (from everyone) in all the scenes, great visuals supported by spectacular music.
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 18 0:59:16 2009.

Nerd,

Second half is quite predictable. Also the Arya character resembled Pidhamagan Vikram character a lot. Only difference idhula Arya pEsuraaru, so saying Arya did well. Bala heroes are always portrayed as if they are God, no one can touch or beat them. It�s stereotypic and boring, seriously. Only thing which is new in this movie is the theme, which can be cherished.
Forget the BPO scene; it is an outcome of irresistible stress. Except that the movie is good to me. I am not saying that NK is bad but I feel it is not perfect to be called it as the besta.
From: rajasaranam on Wed Feb 18 1:26:38 2009.

I think this is the first post-modernist film in tamizh industry The Film is being interpreted to the extremes. One of my friends called me yesterday and proclaimed Bala is preaching atheism in the movie and he has understood that the underlying emotion of the movie is 'Kadavul Illai'! and just now I finished reading a 'Hindutva' interpretation of the movie understanding the movie as gloryfying 'Hinduism'. no film can ever get extreme reading than this
From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 18 1:39:56 2009.

Come on guys, this is a commercial movie. Bala has tried his best to play within that circle and distanced far away from the center. The movie has minuses.... agreed.... but has more pluses, the success of this film says it all.
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 18 2:07:01 2009.

Naan indha KT vs NK aattaikku varalai.

Both were far from perfect films anyway

The BPO scene was indeed bad but "en aanandhikku ezudha vENdiya letterai yaarukkO ezudhittEn". You (sari sari I) could feel that sense of loss, pain, ridiculousness of his state.

NK was more like "whatever". Somehow the kind of way Siththan and Sakthi felt real - could not be felt with the folks here. Felt very surfacey and 'spectacular'.

Pichchai paathiram song itself had so damn much, things never added substantially to that. The scene where thandavan rips one of the uruppadis with a karukku seemed like an inside joke by Bala !

The madha naLLinakkam of equally despises Gods of all religions by poojA in the climax was amusing (reminded me of soonapaana's "varisaiyA varuvOmle"). That is an example of what I felt regarding things being "on the surface" here.

Murugan and the humor was the chief takeaway for me: cellphone vikkiravainga, unakkellAm theriyAdhu
From: bimmer on Wed Feb 18 2:18:28 2009.

venkkiram wrote:

bimmer wrote:

Music is OK.

eager to know which film music you can rate as the best. provide valid points why you consider naan kadavul music is OK kind of.

Annatha.. That was not my review....Music was Good IMO.

Anyways I agree to disagree with a lot of folks down here..flow aah irrukarathunala solaren....KT was much better tham NK..IMO (Excluding the Starcast and Music) as stated by Sridhar
From: Plum on Wed Feb 18 2:25:01 2009.

PR, can see where you are coming from. This is what was described as 'central conceit' by Baradwaj Rangan. You either buy it or dont. And that determines the reaction to the movie.
(I couldnt buy the 'central conceit' of slumdog, for instance, and that marred the movie for me, adhukkappauram evlo dhaan intellect argue panninalum, heart rejected it)
From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 18 2:38:02 2009.

Central Conceit-A , concept pErulayE uLkuththu irukkA maadhiri irukkE

But yeah. idhai thaan colloquial-A "hit or miss" 'mbOm.

For example, I will go out on one limb to 'defend' Siththan or Prabhakar with atleast with "he is like that wonly". But didn't feel that kind of motivation for any of the folks in NK, with the possible exception of Murugan
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 18 2:49:19 2009.

Prabhu Ram wrote:

Somehow the kind of way Siththan and Sakthi felt real - could not be felt with the folks here. Felt very surfacey and 'spectacular'.

Sithan felt real-a? "Worked" vera, "felt real" vera. Meendum kekkaren, Sithan felt real????
From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 18 2:57:16 2009.

Sanjeevi wrote:

NA award qualify-ku a herione should have given her own voice

idhellam ungalukku overa theriliya Sanjeevi?!
From: Sanjeevi on Wed Feb 18 2:57:18 2009.

IMO, Shankar films are in one extreme (film about society / system) and Bala movies are in another extreme (film about individual person/ characters). Thus anyone who can relate with movie can get 'a feel' from Bala film unlike others' movies. IMO it is not missing in NK. Moreover I belive Bala is not going to which is correct or not. Generally I don't like 'message' in a film. I should give an experience and it is even better if the film will serve entertainment.
From: Sanjeevi on Wed Feb 18 3:00:11 2009.

crajkumar_be wrote:

Sanjeevi wrote:

NA award qualify-ku a herione should have given her own voice

idhellam ungalukku overa theriliya Sanjeevi?!

Is not the rule?

However I feel pooja should have sung all songs or songs should be given with a single voice not the actual recorded songs. It was quite annoying when watching

From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 18 3:33:21 2009.

Somehow the kind of way Siththan and Sakthi felt real - could not be felt with the folks here. Felt very surfacey and 'spectacular'.

Sithan felt real-a? "Worked" vera, "felt real" vera. Meendum kekkaren, Sithan felt real????

reality 'ngradhu enna na.....

In the context of a world which is imagined, for a viewer the two expressions "felt real" and "worked" are not that different, if you come to think of it. As bizzare as he was, he felt like a person and not some writer's concept given form. adhai thaan real-nu sonnEn. If it works it is real.

From: sakthii on Wed Feb 18 3:58:18 2009.

I saw NK last weekend.

I doesn't liked the climax and it is usual from Bala and one can not avoid that.

Two things i like, Bala's confident and Ilayaraja's music..
It is amazing to see that everyone engrossed into movie after 10 to 15 min of movie. It is good to see a film without unnecessary songs, fights, mokkai comedy and mainly the punch dialogues.. what a relief!

As some one noted here in this forum, there was some people who keep shouting(i wish to be agori for those miscreants!) for sometime.. finally it is Bala who take everyone into the movie.

It is evident that movie is chopped out a lot! Wish Bala releases a DVD with full version of his movie. Bala should know that there people who wish to see quality and meaningful movie.

Ilayaraja is always Raja.. I remember a dialogue from one of Kamals movie, i think from Pammal K Samandham..
"Yen Ethukkunu ellam ketka koodathu... anubavikanum" yes.. one has to feel the BGM. I got goosebumps of particular BGM jut before interval..

Bala.. pls release uncut version of Naan Kadavul.

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 18 4:06:56 2009.

Layla/genelia madhiri indha visayathulayum namma karuthu verupatte dhaan irukkum

reality 'ngradhu enna na..... Smile

Pithasudhan la irundha dosconnect-a vida idhula enakku kammiya irundhuchu

From: equanimus on Wed Feb 18 7:31:34 2009.

naan appovE mild-a doubt aanEn

Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes.

Miss-na miss, Steve Harmison spectra wide maadhiri oru miss.

Some enjoyable laughs salvaging an otherwise macabre afternoon.

Your reaction is along the expected lines, PR, especially in light of the doubts you had been expressing about the film.

NK had several good parts interspersed in a mish mash seemingly thrown at us with disdain.

I think this resonates with my comment about "a profound sense of ennui" in the film.

Bala,
I had actually meant to ask this in response to your "first reaction" itself. Have you revisited 'pithAmagan' lately? I find your comments on 'pithAmagan,' uh, uncharacteristically dogmatic if I may say so. I liked 'pithAmagan' (or 'nandhA' for that matter) in the first viewing, but my affection for the film is not based on that alone. It was borne out by my revisits. Actually I've revisited both 'pithAmagan' and nandhA' several times. The more I saw these films, the more my respect for Bala as a filmmaker grew. 'nandhA' is actually much worse off in this regard because people simply ignore it. I've hardly read anything worthwhile written about that film. The opinions are all much the same. And when I prod some of my friends/acquaintances, most of them just admit that they don't really remember the film that well.

From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 18 8:01:34 2009.