Bala's Naan Kadavul

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• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 8:22:52 2007.

  Naan Kadavul release date announced
  By Behindwoods News Bureau.
  November 30, 2007
  
  The guesswork shall soon come to an end and Arya can get rid of the beard he has been sporting all this while. With all the hurdles, from legal wrangles to postponement of shooting schedules and running out of heroines coming to an end it seems that the shooting of this movie is progressing rapidly.
  Naan Kadavul
  
  Pooja, the latest entrant to the cast, seems to have brought in some good luck as the move is nearing completion and is most likely to hit the theatres on the Republic day, January 26th, 2008. Bala is working hard to release this film, which he considers very close to his heart, as early as possible. Ilayaraja has scored the music for this movie. The stills of Naan Kadavul have been doing the rounds for a while now. However, it looks like the producers would have to go in for a fresh round of publicity to rekindle the curiosity, which had fizzled out due to the almost yearlong delay.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 8:34:13 2007.

  The poll isn't even half fair. We need to select between, pitamagan which was good film and another option which says better than pitamagan... come on dude.... What do you think I am going to vote for.....
  
  

• From: Pras on Fri Nov 30 8:35:24 2007.

  put another option : "loosu movie"
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri Nov 30 9:30:08 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  put another option : "loosu movie"

  
  
  i too need this option...... its going to be a flop... though i like Bala & Ilayaraaja
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 9:45:33 2007.

  
  
  Why guys? I think Bala has potential to make a good movie. Arya is a director's actor. He was good in AA and Pattiayal. When I heard that some Meenakshi was doing the heroine role, i was like , now Pooja is doing. So the starcast is not bad. My take is it is going to be better than Pithamagan.. Definitely it will be a sad movie but he has the knack of getting the viewer involved.
  
  Ramesh,
  
  Even for Billa trailer, 2 people came and voted for bad. How can I include the third option of NK.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Nov 30 10:01:20 2007.

  i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies.......
  
  i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie.....
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:06:58 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Why guys? I think Bala has potential to make a good movie. Arya is a director's actor. He was good in AA and Pattiayal. When I heard that some Meenakshi was doing the heroine role, i was like , now Pooja is doing. So the starcast is not bad. My take is it is going to be better than Pithamagan.. Definitely it will be a sad movie but he has the knack of getting the viewer involved. Ramesh, Even for Billa trailer, 2 people came and voted for bad. How can I include the third option of NK.

  
  
  Firstly, we never asked the thread starter to remove the "bad" option. We only deplored that people have voted bad for Billa's trailer even though it was excellent to tamil movie standards - a fact agreed upon by many.
  
  Secondly, We didn’t start voting for billa trailer before the trailer was released, we had a platform to decide on it because of the trailer. The case here is not the same. IMHO, trying to compare billa and NK is in itself atrocious.
  
  Past films matter very little; just because bala's past films were success it doesn't mean this film too will follow the suite. There are lots of indicators that this film may not be as good. First, the confusion surrounding the lead & the frequent exit of heroines and the delay it caused may hint to some that the film may be bad. I don’t know how well the film has come out after all this confusion and delay.
  
  If not for anything, every one has freedom of expression, even if the film is exceptionally good, one may have the view that it was bad. Trying to stifle one's voice by not giving him the option is not right.
  
  More over for an Ajit fan, we will at least believe & hope that the movie is bad for all he did to Ajit, is unacceptable. I agree it’s not logical, but we never claimed we are always logical. We have our freedom to believe so, just as few people have freedom to believe Billa’s trailer was bad [mind you they may have valid reasons to believe so]. If the film really comes out well then that’s a different story. We will have to take the blame for not accepting it as good film [that happens if we still stick to our stand & the film is good] & bad mouthing the film before its release. But we are more than ready to do so.
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 10:08:46 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies....... i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie.....

  
  
  I think it is one of the rumours doing around. But definitely there will be Ganja smoking scenes.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Nov 30 10:19:34 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies....... i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie.....

  
  
  'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:20:54 2007.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  MADDY wrote: i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies....... i think bala will suffer hugely from the high handedness he used for this movie..... 'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies.

  
  
  LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 10:21:54 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  Firstly, we never asked the thread starter to remove the "bad" option. We only deplored that people have voted bad for Billa's trailer even though it was excellent to tamil movie standards - a fact agreed upon by many. Secondly, We didn’t start voting for billa trailer before the trailer was released, we had a platform to decide on it because of the trailer. The case here is not the same. IMHO, trying to compare billa and NK is in itself atrocious. Past films matter very little; just because bala's past films were success it doesn't mean this film too will follow the suite. There are lots of indicators that this film may not be as good. First, the confusion surrounding the lead & the frequent exit of heroines and the delay it caused may hint to some that the film may be bad. I don’t know how well the film has come out after all this confusion and delay. If not for anything, every one has freedom of expression, even if the film is exceptionally good, one may have the view that it was bad. Trying to stifle one's voice by not giving him the option is not right. More over for an Ajit fan, we will at least believe & hope that the movie is bad for all he did to Ajit, is unacceptable. I agree it’s not logical, but we never claimed we are always logical. We have our freedom to believe so, just as few people have freedom to believe Billa’s trailer was bad [mind you they may have valid reasons to believe so]. If the film really comes out well then that’s a different story. We will have to take the blame for not accepting it as good film [that happens if we still stick to our stand & the film is good] & bad mouthing the film before its release. But we are more than ready to do so.

  
  
  Ramesh,
  
  I am not comparing Billa with NK, don't mistaken me. What I said was even for such a good trailer of Billa, people voted for bad options. That's why bad option is not included to the polls here.
  
  I don't want to get into the personal problems of Bala or any other artiste. Let them solve their own problems privately. What should matter to fans of tf like us is how well they come up with their projects and their problems should not interfere us liking their projects if they are good. I am confident in Bala's ability, he will pull it off this time too.[/tscii]
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:33:30 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  c4ramesh wrote: Firstly, we never asked the thread starter to remove the "bad" option. We only deplored that people have voted bad for Billa's trailer even though it was excellent to tamil movie standards - a fact agreed upon by many. Secondly, We didn’t start voting for billa trailer before the trailer was released, we had a platform to decide on it because of the trailer. The case here is not the same. IMHO, trying to compare billa and NK is in itself atrocious. Past films matter very little; just because bala's past films were success it doesn't mean this film too will follow the suite. There are lots of indicators that this film may not be as good. First, the confusion surrounding the lead & the frequent exit of heroines and the delay it caused may hint to some that the film may be bad. I don’t know how well the film has come out after all this confusion and delay. If not for anything, every one has freedom of expression, even if the film is exceptionally good, one may have the view that it was bad. Trying to stifle one's voice by not giving him the option is not right. More over for an Ajit fan, we will at least believe & hope that the movie is bad for all he did to Ajit, is unacceptable. I agree it’s not logical, but we never claimed we are always logical. We have our freedom to believe so, just as few people have freedom to believe Billa’s trailer was bad [mind you they may have valid reasons to believe so]. If the film really comes out well then that’s a different story. We will have to take the blame for not accepting it as good film [that happens if we still stick to our stand & the film is good] & bad mouthing the film before its release. But we are more than ready to do so. Ramesh, I am not comparing Billa with NK, don't mistaken me. What I said was even for such a good trailer of Billa, people voted for bad options. That's why bad option is not included to the polls here. I don't want to get into the personal problems of Bala or any other artiste. Let them solve their own problems privately. What should matter to fans of tf like us is how well they come up with their projects and their problems should not interfere us liking their projects if they are good. I am confident in Bala's ability, he will pull it off this time too.[/tscii]

  
  
  AS I said it is not what matters to you, but rather others.... most of them who have commented till now haven't expressed a positive opinion. Yes, I agree the reason for my disapproval of film is not a logical one. But my point is I must be able to have a opinion for or against. But you don't even give such a option to me. I agree I am biased on this, but isn't it a forum where I can democratically express my views? But you are biased too. There are people who didn't like bala's previous films and why can't they have a say? They may have found the films are to somber and predictable... sad endings.... what else has he offered? - it is a legitimate concern. And there concerns can't be addressed.
  
  And I was right in claiming you were comparing Billa & NK, not is the sense you understood but rather in the sense. we have a platform to judge billa's trailer with the trailer out, but here we have no such platform.
  
  If you believe he will do a great job!- fine no problems, but why on the earth should we share such a view and more worse be restricted to express such a view in the polls?
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 10:42:41 2007.

  It is just like having only a single parties symbol on the ballot box just becuase you are the EC officer and you feel that the party has done a good job.... after all what matters to people is that we must have a good party to rule us. But the point here is opinions are subjective, and giving such options defeats the purpose of asking opinions... you may very well have avoided the poll...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 30 13:11:33 2007.

  OK, Ramesh....
  
  MODS:
  Is there any way to add options again to the poll?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Nov 30 13:13:45 2007.

  NK has just one song right.. For 12 minutes or something.. We can watch NK just for that and of course IR's BGM...
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Nov 30 13:32:02 2007.

  Judge, I think you can do that by editing the first post (which is yours)...
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Fri Nov 30 13:51:37 2007.

  
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Fri Nov 30 14:41:35 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  OK, Ramesh.... MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll?

  
  
  Vidunga... no tension.... Naan thaan tension aiteeno.....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Nov 30 14:53:11 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: OK, Ramesh.... MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll? Vidunga... no tension.... Naan thaan tension aiteeno.....

  
  
  no, its just u spoke out ur tension and we kept it inside
  
  

• From: Pras on Fri Nov 30 16:11:22 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Ramesh, I am not comparing Billa with NK, don't mistaken me. What I said was even for such a good trailer of Billa, people voted for bad options. That's why bad option is not included to the polls here. I don't want to get into the personal problems of Bala or any other artiste. Let them solve their own problems privately. What should matter to fans of tf like us is how well they come up with their projects and their problems should not interfere us liking their projects if they are good. I am confident in Bala's ability, he will pull it off this time too.

  
  
  Judgu,
  
  you are comparing pithamagan with NK in your poll ... that IS NOT acceptable as well
  
  close this thread and open a new one
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Fri Nov 30 17:05:47 2007.

  
  

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Pras wrote: put another option : "loosu movie" i too need this option...... its going to be a flop... though i like Bala & Ilayaraaja

  
  

• From: Tia on Fri Nov 30 19:07:20 2007.

  i am not watching the movie if arya eats dead bodies!
  

  MADDY wrote:

  i heard the movie is about "Nechrophilism" ............ .....eating dead bodies.......

  
  

• From: Kumar on Fri Nov 30 22:44:39 2007.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies.

  
  
  Tia, as LM said, necrophilia is a person having, ....athaan, you know....intha,....honeymoon couples ellam..... , ..ummm....birds and the bees, ....but in this case, the bees have been sprayed with insecticide....get my drift.....the malligai poo has withered somewhat......
  
  Go and ask your science teacher.
  
  Anyway, Bala does have knack of presenting something really gritty on screen; I like the way he pushes the boundary when it comes to raw human emotion.
  
  

• From: joe on Fri Nov 30 23:12:39 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  OK, Ramesh.... MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll?

  
  
  What option you want to add?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:16:43 2007.

  app_engine wrote:

  Judge, I think you can do that by editing the first post (which is yours)...

  
  
  Nope, we can edit only the text not the polls.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:18:03 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: OK, Ramesh.... MODS: Is there any way to add options again to the poll? Vidunga... no tension.... Naan thaan tension aiteeno.....

  
  
  Yeah, I think so.... hey no problem, I can very well understand your tension
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:19:05 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  no, its just u spoke out ur tension and we kept it inside

  
  
  kanna,
  
  nee emmaa tension aane? konjam vilakkama sollu
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:22:25 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  Judgu, you are comparing pithamagan with NK in your poll ... that IS NOT acceptable as well

  
  
  why? you think because of Vikram involved in pithamagan? come on, I am not talking about in the sense of artists performances but the overall product.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:24:07 2007.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  'Necrophilism' is not eating dead bodies. It's having *** with deadbodies.

  
  
  Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:29:39 2007.

  I just said the right meaning of that word. That doesn't mean the film will be having that
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:32:20 2007.

  joe wrote:

  What option you want to add?

  
  
  lower than Pithamagan
  
  Thanks!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:36:10 2007.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  I just said the right meaning of that word. That doesn't mean the film will be having that

  
  
  yeah, MADDY was talking this movie is about Necrophilism. You have given the right meaning and I was just pointing it out that it was not possible.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:39:15 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years.

  Aalavandhaan
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:39:15 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years.

  Aalavandhaan
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:44:14 2007.

  PR,
  
  It's just a dialogue, right?. Doctor asks Nandhu "Nandu, are u a necrophilic"???
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:45:08 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: I just said the right meaning of that word. That doesn't mean the film will be having that yeah, MADDY was talking this movie is about Necrophilism. You have given the right meaning and I was just pointing it out that it was not possible.

  
  
  There is a misunderstanding. Maddy was talking about 'eating dead bodies' scenes. He just mentioned the wrong term.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 1:46:06 2007.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Is this kind of act really possible in tamil film industry? I don't think so! not even in zillion years. Aalavandhaan

  
  
  Is it? which character is it? I remember Manisha was under the drug influence but was she dead??
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 1:49:02 2007.

  Yeah, Kamal kisses Manisha after killing her. Doctor appears and says that dialogue.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 1:52:04 2007.

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=GXEt7d1rtHw
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 2:13:01 2007.

  PrabhuRam wrote:

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=GXEt7d1rtHw

  
  
  yeppaa, 7.54 length clippinga??
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 2:42:12 2007.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=GXEt7d1rtHw

  
  
  no, thats not Necrophilism......doc just asks that........
  
  i'm sorry for mixing up terms - Necrophilism is having s** with dead bodies and eating dead bodies can be referred to as "cannibalism"
  
  (cannibalism - consuming human flesh. This is reported to occur in the context of warfare, as part of a funeral rite or, rarely, in cases of extreme stress)
  
  but either ways, it is *sick* idea.......... ......
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 1 3:55:52 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  no, thats not Necrophilism......doc just asks that........

  Maddy, Necrophilia means being attracted corpses. Let's not get more technical than that
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 5:09:57 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  joe wrote: What option you want to add? lower than Pithamagan Thanks!

  
  
  done! VaaKkaLa perumakkaL vanthu vote podungappa!
  
  

• From: Pras on Sat Dec 1 5:20:02 2007.

  thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 5:44:39 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu

  
  
  
  
  his style of narration is different that no other creaters are able to do that (at present)
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 6:21:51 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu

  
  
  Please don't compare him with hari.
  What were you thinking
  
  Sethu's BO hit was a surprise for everyone including Bala. The twist was so damn good but later everyone knew his projects are going to end in a sad note. Nandha was rejected but in Pithamagan's case everybody accepted it. Actually everyone was excited to see how he is going to finish it off. When the sack was dropped on the road, all viewers hearts were in denial that it shouldn't be Surya. I think it is a tough job to make people accept sad endings, a few will do one or two movies but he does it every movie and his success says a lot about his approach in the making.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 6:24:26 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Please don't compare him with hari. What were you thinking

  
  
  kai thavari type panni irupparu...... vitrunga
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 6:26:46 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Please don't compare him with hari. What were you thinking

  
  
  kai thavari type panni irupparu...... vitrunga
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 6:48:31 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu

  
  
  Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sat Dec 1 7:28:33 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan

  
  
  Athane
  
  Bala is somewhat kingmaker. See the materials polished by him 1) Vikram 2) Surya 3) Sangeetha 4) Karunas
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 7:33:04 2007.

  Sangeetha and Karunas haven't had much success. I agree with the first two.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sat Dec 1 7:39:59 2007.

  LM somehow I agree with Sangeetha, but Bala introduced Karunas and definitely Karunas tasted the success atleast for a short period. See his performance in E, he is not only comedian.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sat Dec 1 7:46:56 2007.

  Sanjeevi,
  
  Karunas does good. I liked him in Pollaadhavan too. But the success of Vikram and Surya is so huge that I couldn't mention Karunas along with them. Thats it
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 7:49:23 2007.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  LM somehow I agree with Sangeetha, but Bala introduced Karunas and definitely Karunas tasted the success atleast for a short period. See his performance in E, he is not only comedian.

  
  
  Yeah, though Karunas is not good always as a comedian, I liked his performance in Katrathu Tamil.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 7:50:49 2007.

  Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. Innamum dubbing-la thaan busy-a irunthiruppar.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sat Dec 1 11:25:44 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. Innamum dubbing-la thaan busy-a irunthiruppar.

  
  
  idhu edho thaakki pesura madhiri irukku
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 1 12:02:32 2007.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. Innamum dubbing-la thaan busy-a irunthiruppar. idhu edho thaakki pesura madhiri irukku

  
  
  anna unmaiya solla udunganna
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 14:44:39 2007.

  Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck..
  
  As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie.
  
  But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable.
  

  joe wrote:

  Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan

  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 15:27:53 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck.. As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable. joe wrote: Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan

  
  
  
  
  
  

• From: buddysathi on Sat Dec 1 16:04:59 2007.

  Bala is the most underrated in tamil cinema, he is definitely very very original, though not versatile! ofcourse, without him noone wud have recognised vikram or surya!
  
  He has his own genre which shud be appreciated and not to be compared with modern age techno movies of no life! To me he is the BEST...BTW I am not a kanja smoker!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Sat Dec 1 16:08:46 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram.

  
  
  I dont know about that!
  
  But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there!
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 21:36:06 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck.. As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable. joe wrote: Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan

  
  
  I disagree your honor!
  
  Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars.
  
  Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors.
  
  Btw ,My comment was particularly for Pras ,without Bala he may not be a fan of Vikram.
  
  Apart from that I know why you guys hate Bala
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 22:03:44 2007.

  If i say "both in the same pedestal" it means that both needed a break very badly and my post clearly says that both needed each other badly. Thats my argument and i clearly said with logical reasons that sethu movie was turned down by a few lead actors and producers who wished not to experiment with such a negative climax.
  
  
  And ur last line of the post is freakking unneccessary. Never in my previous post i had written anything about hating bala or some goddamm *%#$%^ . Stop manipulating my post
  

  joe wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: Thought would stay away from this argument...but what the heck.. As thala said in his recent interview: Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. They mutually grew with help of each other. This analogy can be applied to vikram and bala as well. Both were in the same pedestal when they did sethu. Sethu script was rejected by some top heroes and financiers and it finally went to the cast and crew who finally did the movie. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable. joe wrote: Pras wrote: thank you for the new option ... but utter flop would have been better ... bala is one of the ooooverrated director of Tamil cinmea ... along with hari and lingu Vikram-kku vaazhvu kuduththa Bala-vukku ithu thevai thaan I disagree your honor! Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars. Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors. Btw ,My comment was particularly for Pras ,without Bala he may not be a fan of Vikram. Apart from that I know why you guys hate Bala

  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 22:19:15 2007.

  joe wrote:

  I disagree your honor! Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars.

  
  
  i completely agree with Joe here ...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa.......
  
  i cant help laughing when people say, Hari & Lingu are equal to Bala......though i hate that guy for wat he did to thala, i really feel, he is the father of the current trend of filmmaking......it ranks alongside 16 vaidhunile,Udhiri pookkal, Nayagan....Sethu was a "earthquake"......all the "sad", dark,experiment movies we see today is bcos Bala set the tamil people to such extreme visuals/storylines........ ........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense......
  
  

  joe wrote:

  Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors

  
  
  i seriously want to know, wat "sambar" means ......gemini, madhavan were called so - now surya
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 22:41:15 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  wat "sambar" means

  
  
  Normally Heros not considered suitable for aggressive roles are called as 'Saambar' ..As far as I know Gemini ganesan ,SSR are in the list of many ..My list include Prasanth ,exclude Madhavan
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 22:46:35 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  it means that both needed a break very badly

  
  
  I don't understand How come somebody needed a break even after his very first movie
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 23:08:19 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe wrote: I disagree your honor! Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars. i completely agree with Joe here ...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa....... i cant help laughing when people say, Hari & Lingu are equal to Bala......though i hate that guy for wat he did to thala, i really feel, he is the father of the current trend of filmmaking......it ranks alongside 16 vaidhunile,Udhiri pookkal, Nayagan....Sethu was a "earthquake"......all the "sad", dark,experiment movies we see today is bcos Bala set the tamil people to such extreme visuals/storylines........ ........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense...... joe wrote: Same way ,until Nandha ,Surya was just a 'Saambar' and with Bala's one movie ,he was taken seriously by audience and directors i seriously want to know, wat "sambar" means ......gemini, madhavan were called so - now surya

  
  
  Mr. why don't you understand that his stories were rejected by most producers and heros. Was Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM stories rejected similarly?
  
  if it where not for those two guys, his stories couldn't have seen the light of the day... even if some others would have aceepted it. How sure are you that they could have given such a performance?
  
  Both of them are necessary... just because some is a good director he can't run the show all alone....
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sat Dec 1 23:10:50 2007.

  joe wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: it means that both needed a break very badly I don't understand How come somebody needed a break even after his very first movie

  
  
  Who was the hero of his very first movie? how many producers and heros rejeced that story? Answer this question... you may very very understand how....
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Dec 1 23:23:29 2007.

  ramesh: freeaa vidunga, Puriyaravangalukku puriattum.....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Dec 1 23:37:10 2007.

  ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala......theres no end to this arguement......IMO, its bala who revived vikram, surya.....if not surya,vikram, he would have got this work from some other guys..........there cannot be bad actors, there can be only bad directors
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Dec 1 23:42:11 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  joe wrote: ajithfederer wrote: it means that both needed a break very badly I don't understand How come somebody needed a break even after his very first movie Who was the hero of his very first movie?

  
  Vikram
  
  

  Quote:

  how many producers and heros rejeced that story?

  
  
  I didn't count ..may be more than 100
  
  

  Quote:

  Answer this question...

  
  Answerd
  
  

  Quote:

  you may very very understand how....

  
  
  Still I don't understand How come bala expect a break even before his first movie
  
  Break is something needed in between the carrier ,not before starting the carrier itself
  
  

• From: app_engine on Sun Dec 2 0:11:57 2007.

  IMO, Bala is an extremely talented director, though each of his movies was distasteful to me (I've seen all three of them on DVDs). If I stay away from the theme / storyline etc. of the movie, I would easily rate him at par with MR / BR league. He can present scenes so powerful (the impact hits you) and interestingly, he is one among the very few who can charge up the aged IR.
  
  However, if we take the theme element into a/c, all his movies feel nauseating...BTW, I'm not someone who prefers "happy endings"...moondRAm piRai and nAyagan are among my top fav movies in Thamizh and so are dozens of such in Thamizh & MalayALam...but Bala's ventures have too much darkness in them that leaves one depressed:-(
  
  I definitely don't look forward to his next movie, though there is some interest in how IR is going to score for this.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 0:29:12 2007.

  app_engine wrote:

  he is one among the very few who can charge up the aged IR. I definitely don't look forward to his next movie, though there is some interest in how IR is going to score for this.

  
  
  thats one aspect, i wanted to talk, but didnt to save the blushes.......so, u have started it, let me continue..................Sethu revived IR and broke the monopply of ARR trend............i mean, with sethu, one kuthhu song/movie formula was re-invented and ARR was marooned.......
  
  with bala, we are talking abt one of the most influential characters of tamil cinema ......its all IMO
  
  

• From: rooky on Sun Dec 2 0:33:45 2007.

  If KB made Kamal and Rajini, Bala made Vikram and Surya..No denying that.
  
  Vikram and Surya are more than happy to accept that, as is done by Kamal and Rajini.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 0:36:08 2007.

  rooky wrote:

  If KB made Kamal and Rajini, Bala made Vikram and Surya..No denying that. Vikram and Surya are more than happy to accept that, as is done by Kamal and Rajini.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 0:55:21 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Still I don't understand How come bala expect a break even before his first movie Break is something needed in between the carrier ,not before starting the carrier itself

  
  
  FYI, no one starts their carrier as a director, and bala isn't an exception. He was Assistant director for the famous national award director and cinematographer Balu Mahendra. So it was a break to his carrier.... LOLZZZZZZZ
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 0:56:13 2007.

  joe wrote:

  rooky wrote: If KB made Kamal and Rajini, Bala made Vikram and Surya..No denying that. Vikram and Surya are more than happy to accept that, as is done by Kamal and Rajini.

  
  
  No one made no body.... they just identifed them....
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 0:57:41 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  He was Assistant director for the famous national award director and cinematographer Balu Mahendra. So it was a break to his carrier.... LOLZZZZZZZ

  
  
  I see.
  
  Atleast you didn't say Bala already got a break when he drive motor bike even before he became Asst .Director
  
  Thanks!
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:02:09 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala......theres no end to this arguement......IMO, its bala who revived vikram, surya.....if not surya,vikram, he would have got this work from some other guys..........there cannot be bad actors, there can be only bad directors

  
  
  Your argument "ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala" is valid if I had claimed that Surya and Vikram are the reason for Bala's scucess rather I claim everyone had a part, both needed each other. To say so Balla made Vikram and Surya is nonsense....
  
  there cannot be bad actors - do you know how many people Bala auditions for a role? If he is a good director he must have selected the very first candiate or is their something called a "bad actor"? - Your claim is baseless.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:03:56 2007.

  joe wrote:

  c4ramesh wrote: He was Assistant director for the famous national award director and cinematographer Balu Mahendra. So it was a break to his carrier.... LOLZZZZZZZ I see. Atleast you didn't say Bala already got a break when he drive motor bike even before he became Asst .Director Thanks!

  
  
  summa siruthu mallupathinga... does the definition of break fit in this case... Yes it does. Have your parody elsewhere..... I am not a great fan of using parody to coverup dogmas....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 1:10:32 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  there cannot be bad actors - do you know how many people Bala auditions for a role? If he is a good director he must have selected the very first candiate or is their something called a "bad actor"? -

  
  
  again - u have too see, what Bala did with available resources......vikram wasnt obviously his first choice (100 rejections) ..........wow, i wud like to stop here, i cant argue *for* Bala so much .......
  
  

  c4ramesh wrote:

  Your claim is baseless.

  
  
  r u a lawyer, by any chance??? i have seen u using strong words like this always to attack opposition
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 1:16:46 2007.

  Maddy,
  Intha panjayathukku neengaLavathu oru mudivu sollunga
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 1:18:45 2007.

  Btw, I am not expecting much with Naan Kadavul ,for only one reason ,Aarya I never liked his acting ,dialogue delivery
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:31:29 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  r u a lawyer, by any chance??? i have seen u using strong words like this always to attack opposition

  
  
  It doesn't matter whether I am a lawyer or liar, all the matters is did you support your claim. NO. So it is baseless.
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:32:40 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Btw, I am not expecting much with Naan Kadavul ,for only one reason ,Aarya I never liked his acting ,dialogue delivery

  
  
  Maddy says there are no bad actors... so don't worry bala will save the movie.... it will be another se"thu"
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sun Dec 2 1:33:02 2007.

  Maddy dont u think thats a broad generalization ....I (for that matter anyone) can pinpoint atleast a dozen actors in the past/present who are bad at acting
  

  MADDY wrote:

  ramesh, i can go on saying, who extracted such a performance from surya, vikram other than Bala......theres no end to this arguement......IMO, its bala who revived vikram, surya.....if not surya,vikram, he would have got this work from some other guys..........there cannot be bad actors, there can be only bad directors

  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 1:35:55 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  again - u have too see, what Bala did with available resources......vikram wasnt obviously his first choice (100 rejections) ..........wow, i wud like to stop here, i cant argue *for* Bala so much .......

  
  
  Audition is used to find whether the actor can act the role... appa interviewla firstvarravlan besta irruka mudiyumma.. idhu enna muniyandi villsa,.... FCFS use panaaa...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 1:48:41 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Maddy, Intha panjayathukku neengaLavathu oru mudivu sollunga

  
  
  naa enna solla - i always feel directors are brahmas
  
  (joe, enna vechhi comedy keemedy pannala )
  
  ramesh, i didnt support my claim, bcos the arguement was getting circular.........i do have lots of valid claims - yes, if i dont present them, u can call me baseless,tasteless or anything u want (i give a )
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 2:05:03 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  ramesh, i didnt support my claim, bcos the arguement was getting circular.........i do have lots of valid claims - yes, if i dont present them, u can call me baseless,tasteless or anything u want (i give a )

  
  
  It is not about me claiming something.... A statement not supported by facts is called baseless by definition. So you can rather give a, to English rather than me...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 2:13:23 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  MADDY wrote: ramesh, i didnt support my claim, bcos the arguement was getting circular.........i do have lots of valid claims - yes, if i dont present them, u can call me baseless,tasteless or anything u want (i give a ) It is not about me claiming something.... A statement not supported by facts is called baseless by definition. So you can rather give a, to English rather than me...

  
  
  so, u r asking for it....arent u -
  
  1. give me 3 bad performances from bala's 3 movies and i quit........
  2. give me one path breaking performance of Surya and vikram b4 their sethu and nanda
  3. compare status of vikram b4/after sethu.......
  4. do u want to deny vikram and surya, when they themselves seem to accept that Bala is their mentor......
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:24:15 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Saying that he(thala) gave break to new directors like saran sj suryah, ar murugadoss ... isn't fair.. But for vikram's performance in the movie. The movie would have easily gone with the wind . A script needs an actor and an actor needed an script. Saying one gave break to the other is not acceptable.

  
  
  I disagree with you. I don't know whether saran, sj surya and murugadoss worked with ajith for their first movies or they joined after some films. Vikram's (and Surya's) case is completely different. He was there in the industry and tasted only failures. The plus point of a director like Bala/Ameer is that they can boost the confidence of an artiste to find his true talents and make him to believe in them. Once that artiste tasted that level of confidence, look at their performances zoom in their next movies. I don't think we can compare your examples with Bala's case.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:30:18 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. I dont know about that! But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there!

  
  
  Tell me a few movies where his performances on par with Sethu/Pithamagan before Sethu I will take my words back.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 2:30:51 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. I dont know about that! But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there!

  
  
  Tell me a few movies where his performances on par with Sethu/Pithamagan before Sethu I will take my words back.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Sun Dec 2 2:35:08 2007.

  Did sun rise in the west today???? Maddy and Judge are in the same side
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 3:15:00 2007.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  Did sun rise in the west today???? Maddy and Judge are in the same side

  
  
  
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 3:15:20 2007.

  I don't understand why people want to see just one side of the story only... that Vikram and surya where nothing before their movies with Bala... but will never see that Bala was also nothing before his first film....
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 3:21:07 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  I don't understand why people want to see just one side of the story only... that Vikram and surya where nothing before their movies with Bala... but will never see that Bala was also nothing before his first film....

  
  
  Just now you argued Bala already got a break even before Sethu,his first movie
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 3:37:47 2007.

  C4Ramesh,
  You already confessed that you hate Bala just for his misunderstanding with Ajith .
  
  If Ajith is a hero of 'Naan Kadavul' ,you would have praised Bala like anything.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:24:49 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  littlemaster1982 wrote: Did sun rise in the west today???? Maddy and Judge are in the same side

  
  
  Even I was wondering at MADDY's comments....Usually he sides with actors and I stand by directors. But in this case, MADDY is with me, I see it happening for a short period only MADDY will go back to his routine soon
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 4:26:57 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe wrote: I disagree your honor! Bala was in no pedestal ,but vikram has been trying for a long time ..Even Vikaraman couldn't make him any better ..Vikaram was in a position same as actor Srikanth is now (Infact sreekanth got many offers) until Ullasam ..But Bala changed his status entirely with one movie and Vikaram has become one of the superstars. i completely agree with Joe here ...........directors have the power to create/destroy heroes..........i still believe, its due to Bharathiraja,K.B, Mahendran,BM movies in 70's - kamal and rajini are so strong even now........there are so many such examples.......vikram's revival credit goes to Bala and not the vice-versa....... i cant help laughing when people say, Hari & Lingu are equal to Bala......though i hate that guy for wat he did to thala, i really feel, he is the father of the current trend of filmmaking......it ranks alongside 16 vaidhunile,Udhiri pookkal, Nayagan....Sethu was a "earthquake"......all the "sad", dark,experiment movies we see today is bcos Bala set the tamil people to such extreme visuals/storylines........ ........incidentally the first bala movie i saw was nandha - my most fav bala movie till date......amazing crisp/gripping screenplay with 0% nonsense......

  
  
  
  
  It was strong impact at me after watching all the 3 films made by Bala. Somehow Bala's film making is first half with natural humour and second half with full of dark side of life. Even he is so talented to make humour scenes, remember Pithamagan comedy scenes where I -ed at theatre
  
  Thala fans forgive him as a good film maker.
  
  

• From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 4:27:54 2007.

  I like that kind of arguments
  
  Joe anna,
  Vikram-ku break koduthathu bala illa ... sethu is a good movie, in fact that is the only good movie of Bala ... but vikram signed lot of movies at that time, including Dharani's dhill and Balaji Sakthivel's samurai ...
  
  dhil gave the break to Vikram and made me a fan of him .... without sethu and bala, vikram's hard work would have given him the place he occupies now ANYWAY !!
  
  and coming back to bala : he has given 3 movies, as i said, one is good (sethu : in fact, usually new directors firts movies are good), then came nandha (it never gave the break suriya was waiting for ) and pithamagan ...
  
  pithamagan : two heroes, one of them is a happy go lucky guy, the other one is always in a sad mood ... a villan ... at the end, the happy guy dies and the other takes revenge ... doesn't that remind you of another story ? ... another one which is a BIG HIT and bala just copied it to give a poor movie ... the only saving grace are vikram, suriya and IR's music ....
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 4:29:42 2007.

  pras,
  
  appo vikram-ku National Award vangi kodutha Pithamagan good film illaiya
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:31:42 2007.

  joe wrote:

  C4Ramesh, You already confessed that you hate Bala just for his misunderstanding with Ajith . If Ajith is a hero of 'Naan Kadavul' ,you would have praised Bala like anything.

  
  
  This is my personal opinion, don't jump on me. Looking at the stills of NK, I think Arya is more fit to the roll than Ajith. I think even for Katrathu Tamil if Arya had done it, it would have looked more real with his natural beard. Jeeva was good but his beard looked so bad.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 4:34:57 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Even I was wondering at MADDY's comments....Usually he sides with actors and I stand by directors. But in this case, MADDY is with me, I see it happening for a short period only MADDY will go back to his routine soon

  
  
  .....i'm a director supporter - i even argue with ARR fans who discredit maniratnam for ARR's success..... ......Bala-Vikram case, Bala is definitely the winner , Ajith-Bala - no way, Bala cannot be supported........
  
  sanjeevi, there is no forgiving here......even if Ajith forgives him, i dont think his admirers and his fans should.......Bala should atleast realise that he has done some mistake........what better way than NK flopping .......
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:37:00 2007.

  "Chiyaan" Vikram will answer what Sethu meant to Vikram..
  
  Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well.
  
  I actually find his casting change amusing. Why Arya for Ajith? Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors (In some cases, it's just plain horrenduous, Nanda's mother for example, or less refined acting as with Pithamagan's Chithan - then again, they are justified by the liberties a filmmaker has with his characterization)
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:39:37 2007.

  Quote:

  what better way than NK flopping

  
  
  Vaazhga Thamizh cinema...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 4:42:31 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Quote: what better way than NK flopping Vaazhga Thamizh cinema...

  
  
  thamizh cinema munnetram - 5-star hotelgalil, 4 suvathhukkul, nalla kadhanaygargalin mirattilil dhaan varum endraal - Thamizh cinema Ozhiga
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 4:45:26 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Quote: what better way than NK flopping Vaazhga Thamizh cinema... thamizh cinema munnetram - 5-star hotelgalil, 4 suvathhukkul, nalla kadhanaygargalin mirattilil dhaan varum endraal - Thamizh cinema Ozhiga

  
  
  This should have been escalated legally, but Ajith proved to be a gentleman, I hope his fans take cue.
  
  

• From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 4:48:50 2007.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  pras, appo vikram-ku National Award vangi kodutha Pithamagan good film illaiya

  
  
  whithout pithamagan, vikram would have achieved a NA anyway too ... in fact you are all speaking about pithamagan and bala because of vikram ... vikram gave that break to bala .poke:
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:48:56 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  ...i'm a director supporter

  
  
  No way, you will always praise stars than directors, you support only two directors, Mani and Shankar. We all know the reason
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  Ajith-Bala - no way, Bala cannot be supported........

  
  
  Nobody knows what went behind the scene. It is better leave the problems to them. We are not supporting the problem Bala created to Ajith/any artiste. We support Bala as a creator and he should be supported for his talents.
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  there is no forgiving here......even if Ajith forgives him, i dont think his admirers and his fans should.......Bala should atleast realise that he has done some mistake........what better way than NK flopping .......

  
  
  Now why should NK flop even if he does something bad to Ajith? They are not working together, they parted ways. I don't think a failure will make Bala any difference. He has faced in his life enough failures, he will rise again even if NK flops. But I am sure NK will live up to the expectations.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 4:53:46 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  dhil gave the break to Vikram and made me a fan of him .... without sethu and bala, vikram's hard work would have given him the place he occupies now ANYWAY !!

  
  
  You may have become a fan of him after Dhil. But when did vikram get a break in his career? Sethu illattiyum vikram periaya aala vanthriuppar appadinnu sollreenga. We don't know for sure, but we all know what actually happened. Sethu released and he become a star, atha vida enna proof venum?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 4:59:44 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  "Chiyaan" Vikram will answer what Sethu meant to Vikram.. Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well. I actually find his casting change amusing. Why Arya for Ajith? Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors (In some cases, it's just plain horrenduous, Nanda's mother for example, or less refined acting as with Pithamagan's Chithan - then again, they are justified by the [b]liberties a filmmaker has with his characterization)[/b]

  
  
  Appadi pAthA - all directors can justify all what they deliver - based on their own 'liberty' with their characterisation. Othukka mudiyaatha, unrealistic charactersation-ku ippadi kooda justification kodukka mudiyumnu ippathAn theriyuthu. I think it's mainly because of the liberty the writer has with his language skills
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 5:00:34 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: pras, appo vikram-ku National Award vangi kodutha Pithamagan good film illaiya whithout pithamagan, vikram would have achieved a NA anyway too ... in fact you are all speaking about pithamagan and bala because of vikram ... vikram gave that break to bala .poke:

  
  
  In other words, vikram character-la yaar nadichirunthalaum avarukku NA kidichirukkumnu sollala
  
  

• From: Agni on Sun Dec 2 5:02:24 2007.

  "Naan lavadule?"
  
  evan naan kadabul soluran avan alinjan kadavul punish him so movie flap
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:03:22 2007.

  Roshan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: "Chiyaan" Vikram will answer what Sethu meant to Vikram.. Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well. I actually find his casting change amusing. Why Arya for Ajith? Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors (In some cases, it's just plain horrenduous, Nanda's mother for example, or less refined acting as with Pithamagan's Chithan - then again, they are justified by the [b]liberties a filmmaker has with his characterization)[/b] Appadi pAthA - all directors can justify all what they deliver - based on their own 'liberty' with their characterisation. Othukka mudiyaatha, unrealistic charactersation-ku ippadi kooda justification kodukka mudiyumnu ippathAn theriyuthu. I think it's mainly because of the liberty the writer has with his language skills

  
  
  Oh Roshan, I'm not supporting Bala here, it's justified by the *other* when I personally find Chithan to be an impossible event or argue on the lack of refinement in the acting.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Sun Dec 2 5:03:45 2007.

  Roshan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: "Chiyaan" Vikram will answer what Sethu meant to Vikram.. Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well. I actually find his casting change amusing. Why Arya for Ajith? Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors (In some cases, it's just plain horrenduous, Nanda's mother for example, or less refined acting as with Pithamagan's Chithan - then again, they are justified by the [b]liberties a filmmaker has with his characterization)[/b] Appadi pAthA - all directors can justify all what they deliver - based on their own 'liberty' with their characterisation. Othukka mudiyaatha, unrealistic charactersation-ku ippadi kooda justification kodukka mudiyumnu ippathAn theriyuthu. I think it's mainly because of the liberty the writer has with his language skills

  
  
  Don't say this just because you have no experience with these type of characters in real life.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:06:21 2007.

  Quote:

  Don't say this just because you have no experience with these type of characters in real life.

  
  
  I have seen such likes, but then again, it's not that I expect realism alone, it's the refinement and sophistication that I expect from a talent like Bala.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 5:06:27 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Anyway, I refuse to buy this claim that Bala broke conventions. He just picked darker themes, and narratives closer to him, and he presents it well.

  
  
  That is the main aspect of his films. He doesn't do many fantasy characters/stories, they are more or less very close to his experience.
  
  

  thilak4life wrote:

  Arya is probably the disastrous of all! What a stupid bit of casting! In any case, I think Bala knows how to extract the performance out of his actors

  
  
  From the stills, I think Arya is the right choice for this character. And Bala will do the magic as he has done with Vikram and Surya earlier.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 2 5:13:42 2007.

  Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta
  
  Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen.
  Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 2 5:46:12 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen.

  
  
  Welcome to the Jothi!
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu,

  
  
  Even after Vikram and Surya accepted that Bala was the career-booster for them, their fans simply don't accept it
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa

  
  
  IMO Bala should have roped in Arya for NK first time itself. Then these problems would not have surfaced.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sun Dec 2 5:50:00 2007.

  Quote:

  Even after Vikram and Surya accepted that Bala was the career-booster for them, their fans simply don't accept it

  
  
  That's the worst part...
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 5:52:20 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Quote: Even after Vikram and Surya accepted that Bala was the career-booster for them, their fans simply don't accept it That's the worst part...

  
  
  Neenga vera! Bala-kku break kuduthathu Vikram ,surya ! Not the other way
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 5:57:22 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa

  
  
  yaarukku yaar vaazhvu kudukkaradhu ......bala, oru ganja party-nnu, avarukku ponnu kooda kudukkaama irundhaanga.......it was on Ajith's help, that he got married.......they were close frnds b4.......so, it was Ajith who clearly gave "vaazhvu" to bala..... .....idha sonna, naa emotional, sentimental, personal vishayangala pathhi pesuraennu solluvaanga.......read Ameer's take on this issue - he was more agitated than us.....
  
  yes, he would have changed Ajith's outlook, no doubts - but i'm really happy that he came out of it after looking at Arya in promo stills ......i think, this mite be Arya's last movie
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 6:05:24 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  i think, this mite be Arya's last movie

  
  
  One more achivement from Bala
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 6:10:41 2007.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: i think, this mite be Arya's last movie One more achivement from Bala

  
  
  
  
  

  Maddy wrote:

  yes, he would have changed Ajith's outlook, no doubts - but i'm really happy that he came out of it after looking at Arya in promo stills ......i think, this mite be Arya's last movie

  
  
  Maddy,
  
  You forgot onething. Do you think an actor like Ajith can get stuck with one director for more than 5 years? Avara 'kadavuL' kAppathi irukkAr
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 6:16:58 2007.

  Roshan wrote:

  Maddy, You forgot onething. Do you think an actor like Ajith can get stuck with one director for more than 5 years? Avara 'kadavuL' kAppathi irukkAr

  
  
  yea, thats also true - but how abt Robo for Ajith which will take 3 yrs to complete
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Dec 2 6:30:21 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Maddy, You forgot onething. Do you think an actor like Ajith can get stuck with one director for more than 5 years? Avara 'kadavuL' kAppathi irukkAr yea, thats also true - but how abt Robo for Ajith which will take 3 yrs to complete

  
  
  Athukku nAn yErkanavE bathil sollittEnE
  
  Besides 3 varushathukkuLLa Shankar padatha kaNdippA mudichuduvaar but ithu namma arasAngam pOduRa ainthAndu thittam, paththaandu thittam mAthiri. varumA varAthAnnu theriyAthu
  
  Anyway, at least mudiyellAm vaLathu vERa entha padathuleyum commit paNNa mudiyAtha aLavukku miratti, kantapanchAyathellAm Shankar paNNa mAttArnu nenekiREn
  
  Bala fans ellAm adikka varrathukku munnAdi
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 7:31:07 2007.

  Roshan wrote:

  Besides 3 varushathukkuLLa Shankar padatha kaNdippA mudichuduvaar but ithu namma arasAngam pOduRa ainthAndu thittam, paththaandu thittam mAthiri. varumA varAthAnnu theriyAthu

  
  
  enna, ippadi solli putteegha, adhaan padam varudhula .....btw, is thenappan still producer of NK or has he been replaced too.....
  
  

  Roshan wrote:

  Bala fans ellAm adikka varrathukku munnAdi

  
  
  
  
  adhuvum correct-u.......room pottu merattinaalum aachiryam illa
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:43:44 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  so, u r asking for it....arent u -

  
  
  Yes I am asking for it, but pls.... first know what I am asking for. I asked you to substantiate the statement "that there are only bad directors. No bad actors."
  
  I want you to go through the statement [ur own stmt... FYI] again.
  
  

  Quote:

  1. give me 3 bad performances from bala's 3 movies and i quit........

  
  
  Perfect non sequitur! Whether there is a thing called bad actor or not has nothing to do with the fact that there has been bad performance in his films or not.
  
  To the contrary not only bala, but many other directors have auditioned actors/actresses, for characters for their movies and have also rejected them after the audition. If a director [bala here] can make anyone act [or there is no bad actor], he must have rejected none, in the first place.
  
  So if there has been no bad performance in the film what does it show? It shows he is a good director who has the ability to choose the appropriate characters for his movies and not that there is nothing called a bad actor.
  
  Again before, you throw a straw man I will make one thing clear. I don't claim that there has been no bad performance in Bala's films. But what I claim is whether it has been there or not doesn't even contribute to the topic of discussion.
  
  

  Quote:

  2. give me one path breaking performance of Surya and vikram b4 their sethu and nanda

  
  
  Why before? Why don't you ask after?
  
  Rather I must ask, give me a poor performance from both that let the film down before they acted with Bala...
  
  Again this is a non sequitur. Just because their performance was path breaking in these films doesn't mean that they acted badly in other films. Bala was able to bring out there ablities in them, but for that there has to be one. Bala should try his luck out with Shriya, I bet you wouldn't be making this statement then.
  
  Again a perfect answer to your question is Bala has rejected people after audition, if there is nothing called a bad actor/actress why reject them? Does that mean he is a bad director?
  
  

  Quote:

  3. compare status of vikram b4/after sethu.......

  
  
  He did do his part well before too, it was just that he can't save the movie with his own performance alone. Vikram has given flops even after sethu does that mean his performance was bad in that movie? It only means the movie wasn't good enough.
  
  

  Quote:

  4. do u want to deny vikram and surya, when they themselves seem to accept that Bala is their mentor......

  
  
  How does this in anyway support your claim that there is nothing called a bad actor?
  
  I can't speak for them, but Vikram & Surya aren't clay that they needed a sculpture to sculpt them. They both did their share. Bala did his part. Trying to credit only one person for a victory is called “agangaram” in Tamil. Almost every actor want to show that they are humble, what is the better show that than crediting their successes to others?
  
  And also I must make one thing clear, no one is bad permanently. An actor may show poor acting at one stage and he may improve along the way, because it is a learning process. I would still call the actor is bad when he is bad, if he doesn’t have a single good performance to back it up.
  
  Further more, Bala has just done a few films; if his next film scuks and the actors don’t do well will you call him a bad director? We are talking with too little stats, but will make sweeping statements….
  
  
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:47:15 2007.

  joe wrote:

  c4ramesh wrote: I don't understand why people want to see just one side of the story only... that Vikram and surya where nothing before their movies with Bala... but will never see that Bala was also nothing before his first film.... Just now you argued Bala already got a break even before Sethu,his first movie

  
  
  Where?
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:49:19 2007.

  joe wrote:

  C4Ramesh, You already confessed that you hate Bala just for his misunderstanding with Ajith .

  
  
  Yes! But did I say bala is bad director anywhere?
  
  

  joe wrote:

  If Ajith is a hero of 'Naan Kadavul' ,you would have praised Bala like anything.

  
  
  if the film was as good as his previous films. But if it was bad... i wouldn't have...
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 7:54:39 2007.

  Asking for bad performances, I found some in parts I didn't like Surya's head twisting... seemed very unatural....
  
  Vikram's performance in PTM at certain times seemed to be over... But overall he gave a great performance. which cancels out the few bad patches. The same applies for nandha surya.....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:14:10 2007.

  ramesh, there are no bad actors doesent mean, there are no bad actors in this world........even a dumbo like Ravikrishna was used superbly by Selvaraghavan - thats a good director.......direction is people management in many ways......if the person is not good enuf, then he wont be onboard........if he is onboard, then its ur responsibility........the other way around we see is - madhavan was wasted in movies like "priyamana thozhi" and "arya" .......bad direction can waste good talents too.......and vikraman himself accepted this........
  
  ok, my statement doesent mean, Surya and vikram solely live on nandha and sethu, respectivelty.....they have excelled/consolidated after nandha/sethu..........nandha/sethu are just breaks..........yes, there was a mutual help in vikram-bala-sethu case, but more from Bala side.......a great director like sridhar couldnt do wat bala did to vikram.......understand that......
  
  (pls dont take literal meanings of my statement, pls see what i'm trying to convey.......)
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 8:17:56 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  ramesh, there are no bad actors doesent mean, there are no bad actors in this world........even a dumbo like Ravikrishna was used superbly by Selvaraghavan - thats a good director.......direction is people management in many ways......if the person is not good enuf, then he wont be onboard........if he is onboard, then its ur responsibility........the other way around we see is - madhavan was wasted in movies like "priyamana thozhi" and "arya" .......bad direction can waste good talents too.......and vikraman himself accepted this........ ok, my statement doesent mean, Surya and vikram solely live on nandha and sethu, respectivelty.....they have excelled/consolidated after nandha/sethu..........nandha/sethu are just breaks..........yes, there was a mutual help in vikram-bala-sethu case, but more from Bala side.......a great director like sridhar couldnt do wat bala did to vikram.......understand that...... (pls dont take literal meanings of my statement, pls see what i'm trying to convey.......)

  
  
  I have nothing to comment.... When some one says there are no bad actors only good directors.... I just wanted to say it is not so. But if you didn't mean what you said. Then I have nothing to say....
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:22:38 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  I have nothing to comment.... When some one says there are no bad actors only good directors.... I just wanted to say it is not so. But if you didn't mean what you said. Then I have nothing to say....

  
  
  -edited-
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 8:26:20 2007.

  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 8:30:16 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  I have nothing to comment.... When some one says there are no bad actors only good directors.... I just wanted to say it is not so. But if you didn't mean what you said. Then I have nothing to say....

  
  
  edited my previous post .....
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Sun Dec 2 10:27:57 2007.

  hi
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Dec 2 10:32:05 2007.

  my point:
  
  BALA illai endraal vikram & surya illai
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Sun Dec 2 10:48:12 2007.

  thamizhvaanan wrote:

  hi

  
  
  Balavukku Hi ya?
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 11:20:09 2007.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  my point: BALA illai endraal vikram & surya illai

  
  
  Seri inaikea poi ballava pottuthalireen... suryavum vikramum ena avaranga paappommm...........
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sun Dec 2 13:29:45 2007.

  This particular post is fcukkin unneccessary........What kind of a moderation is going on here.... Insane posts like this go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere....
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa

  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 2 13:36:27 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  This particular post is fcukkin unneccessary........What kind of a moderation is going on here.... Insane posts like go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere.... rajasaranam wrote: Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa

  
  
  tension aagaadhinga.......i have already replied to it........
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Sun Dec 2 13:59:00 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  even a dumbo like Ravikrishna was used superbly by Selvaraghavan - thats a good director.......

  
  
  
  This is the best example for director is playing main role in the outcome of the product .....ravikrishna failed miserably in the movies which are came after 7GRC....Bala/Ameer has the capability of moulding the actors IMO....
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Sun Dec 2 14:37:37 2007.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  This particular post is fcukkin unneccessary........What kind of a moderation is going on here.... Insane posts like this go unnoticed and ajith fans are targeted everywhere.... rajasaranam wrote: Parattai Patha Vechutiye Paratta Judge Ipdi oru topic odikittu irukirathu ippathaan Paarthen. Vikram Surya REndu perume Othukitaanga Bala' thaan Avangalukku Vazhvu Kuduthaangannu, Aprrum Inga Ajitha Fanskku enna Problem Ajithukku Avar vaazhvu Kudukalannu Kovamaa

  
  
  Yaaru Yaarukku valvu koodthanga ulagthukkea theriyum... Ajit neenchirundha innaki bala Pitamagan padathulla, surya adikadi poitvara edathukku poiruparuu....
  
  

• From: Pras on Sun Dec 2 18:23:14 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Pras wrote: dhil gave the break to Vikram and made me a fan of him .... without sethu and bala, vikram's hard work would have given him the place he occupies now ANYWAY !! You may have become a fan of him after Dhil. But when did vikram get a break in his career? Sethu illattiyum vikram periaya aala vanthriuppar appadinnu sollreenga. We don't know for sure, but we all know what actually happened. Sethu released and he become a star, atha vida enna proof venum?

  
  
  naan munnadi sonnatha edit pannittu, unga paatukku pesittu pona enna arutham ?
  
  REPEAT. SETHU-KE APPURAM VIKRAM-KU BREAK KIDAKALA !!!!!! IN FACT, ADHUKKU APPURAM VINNUKKUM MANNUKKUM ENNU ORU LOOSU PADAM PANNINAARU !!! APPAVE CARRER OVER AAKI IRUKKUM ... BUT THEN CAME DHIL (WITH OR WITHOUT SETHU THIS MOVIE WAS TO COME) AND VIKRAM BECAME THE STAR HE IS NOW !!!! AND I AM SURE; AND THIS IS MY PERSONAL VIEW, EVEN WITHOUT DHIL HE WOULD HAVE BECOME A GREAT STAR BECAUSE OF HIS HARD WORK .... IF, NOW VIKRAM SAYS THAT BALA GAVE HIM THE BREAK; THAT ONLY SHOWS HIS GREAT HEART !!!! THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING ... AND DON'T BLAME FANS LIKE ME FOR SUPPORTING HIM
  
  

• From: thamiz on Sun Dec 2 19:56:49 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: MrJudge wrote: Definitely brought out Vikram and Surya. If Bala isn't there, there is no Vikram. I dont know about that! But, at least I would not have seen a "outrageous comment" like this for sure if bala were not there! Tell me a few movies where his performances on par with Sethu/Pithamagan before Sethu I will take my words back.

  
  
  You can say anythhing u want.
  
  Friend of mine did bachelor's with Bala in American college, madurai.
  
  He was shocked to know this is THAT dumb bala from a village of Ramnad district is this director bala.
  
  You never know who will shine when.
  
  Saying without bala Vikram would have been nothing is too speculative and does not make sense to me as Vikram seems to be a talented actor consistently -whether it s maja or anniyan or gemini he has done good.
  
  Things happen.
  
  One would not have shined without the other one does not make sense to me!
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Dec 2 22:27:40 2007.

  Tamizh,
  First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist
  பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Sun Dec 2 23:48:00 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Tamizh, First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே!

  
  
  I beg to disagree, Joe. I strongly believe he is a relative of Ramanatha sEthupathy ( a ruler of Ramanathapuram Kingdom).
  
  Bala is maRavar (thEvar) community which is not in madurai district.
  
  Bharathiraja belongs to kaLLar community of course from madurai suburbs (piRamalaikkaLlarkaL).
  
  Sorry to get into the details of caste- I beleive it was warranted here!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:03:28 2007.

  Quote:

  Paramakudi is a important town of Ramanathapuram district, Tamilnadu, India. Few notable persons from this place are famous Indian actors Kamal Haasan, Cheran,royal rajesh kumar, Ramachandra Prabu,Director Bala[Sethu,Pitha Magan] and Vikram.The River Vaigai flows through Paramakudi on its way to the bay of bengal. Agricultural Research Station is located here. Sadiq the Great man of India studied here only.

  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:13:18 2007.

  Pras wrote:

  naan munnadi sonnatha edit pannittu, unga paatukku pesittu pona enna arutham ? REPEAT. SETHU-KE APPURAM VIKRAM-KU BREAK KIDAKALA !!!!!! IN FACT, ADHUKKU APPURAM VINNUKKUM MANNUKKUM ENNU ORU LOOSU PADAM PANNINAARU !!! APPAVE CARRER OVER AAKI IRUKKUM ... BUT THEN CAME DHIL (WITH OR WITHOUT SETHU THIS MOVIE WAS TO COME) AND VIKRAM BECAME THE STAR HE IS NOW !!!! AND I AM SURE; AND THIS IS MY PERSONAL VIEW, EVEN WITHOUT DHIL HE WOULD HAVE BECOME A GREAT STAR BECAUSE OF HIS HARD WORK .... IF, NOW VIKRAM SAYS THAT BALA GAVE HIM THE BREAK; THAT ONLY SHOWS HIS GREAT HEART !!!! THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING ... AND DON'T BLAME FANS LIKE ME FOR SUPPORTING HIM

  
  
  Annathe,
  
  After continuous string of flops when a movie becomes a hit that too changed his performance so drastically from his previous attempts, then it is called breakku for him. Bala did it first for Vikram. If Bala didn't bring out the real talents of Vikram in Sethu, we would have seen numourous vinnum mannum types of movies from him. We can speculate lot of things, but we all know what happened and who gave break for Vikram. I am sure that among vikram's movies, Sethu and Pithamagan will stand out for many years.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:14:13 2007.

  joe wrote:

  Tamizh, First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே!

  
  
  Yes, joe. He is from Theni district.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:16:42 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  joe wrote: Tamizh, First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே! Yes, joe. He is from Theni district.

  
  
  I take it as a challenge, judge!
  
  Prove it!!! Just your statments are not enopugh for sure
  
  Naming urself as "judge" is NOT ENOUGH of course!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:18:23 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  You never know who will shine when.

  
  
  May be in the future but we all know the past.
  
  

  thamiz wrote:

  Vikram seems to be a talented actor consistently -whether it s maja or anniyan or gemini he has done good.

  
  
  still you are quoting movies after Sethu
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 0:19:36 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  I take it as a challenge, judge! Prove it!!! Just your statments are not enopugh for sure

  
  
  Tell me what you will do if I prove. Because I knew it for sure.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:19:45 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: You never know who will shine when. May be in the future but we all know the past. thamiz wrote: Vikram seems to be a talented actor consistently -whether it s maja or anniyan or gemini he has done good. still you are quoting movies after Sethu

  
  
  So what? I am talking about his skills. How does it matter?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 0:20:27 2007.

  repeat
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 3 0:21:47 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  Paramakudi is a important town of Ramanathapuram district, Tamilnadu, India. Few notable persons from this place are famous Indian actors Kamal Haasan, Cheran,royal rajesh kumar, Ramachandra Prabu,Director Bala[Sethu,Pitha Magan] and Vikram.

  
  
  Hmmm not sure about this. Cheran is from Melur, Madurai District. Remmber reading so in the autobiographical series he wrote in Vikatan a few years back.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:01:46 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: I take it as a challenge, judge! Prove it!!! Just your statments are not enopugh for sure Tell me what you will do if I prove. Because I knew it for sure.

  
  
  First cut the crap!!!
  
  Prove it or shut up!!!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:03:00 2007.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  thamiz wrote: Paramakudi is a important town of Ramanathapuram district, Tamilnadu, India. Few notable persons from this place are famous Indian actors Kamal Haasan, Cheran,royal rajesh kumar, Ramachandra Prabu,Director Bala[Sethu,Pitha Magan] and Vikram. Hmmm not sure about this. Cheran is from Melur, Madurai District. Remmber reading so in the autobiographical series he wrote in Vikatan a few years back.

  
  
  I am not talking about cheran here!
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 3 1:14:12 2007.

  I get that. I was just questioning the source from which you quoted, because the info about ChEran is incorrect.
  
  Anyway, why all this research ?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:52:30 2007.

  prabhu: I agree, that source is very sloppy. I brought it up because it supported my statement.
  
  I am ready to accept if anybody can provide evidence for bala belongs to kaLLar community and not maRavar as I claimed!
  
  I dont have any clue about cheran! I thouhy he is from north TN!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 1:57:31 2007.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Anyway, why all this research ?

  
  
  it is for searching the TRUTH!
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 3 2:02:43 2007.

  I just lookup up Bala's autobiographical series he wrote in Anandha Vikatan.
  Narayana Thevanpatti (near Kambam) is his native. His family later moved to Vadipatti. Later, his parents gave him up for adoption to his aththai, with whom he moved to Periyakulam.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 2:31:58 2007.

  Adadaa Inga Oru Jaathi Kalavaram Nadakuthey
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:49:53 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  joe wrote: Tamizh, First of all Bala is not from Ramnad dist ,He is from Theni (bharathi raja native) ,now in Theni dist ,previously Madurai dist பாலா இயல்பாகவே விசித்திரமான பேர்வழி .ஒரு புத்தகத்தில் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டது .இயக்குநர் ஆன பிறகு பாலா ஒரு முறை சாலமன் பாப்பையாவை சந்தித்த போது "சார் ! நான் உங்கள் மாணவன்" என்று சொல்ல சாலமன் பாப்பயா "அப்படியா! நான் உன்னை வகுப்பில் பார்த்ததே இல்லையே! I beg to disagree, Joe. I strongly believe he is a relative of Ramanatha sEthupathy ( a ruler of Ramanathapuram Kingdom). Bala is maRavar (thEvar) community which is not in madurai district. Bharathiraja belongs to kaLLar community of course from madurai suburbs (piRamalaikkaLlarkaL). Sorry to get into the details of caste- I beleive it was warranted here!

  
  
  I don't know his root ..But I am sure he born and brought up near PeriyaKuLam .I have seen a Vijay TV program ,he introduce his house ,relatives there and the kanja field ,mountains shown in Pithamagan is infact near his native ,he did mentioned that.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:51:11 2007.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: i think, this mite be Arya's last movie One more achivement from Bala

  
  Yes, It is indeed an achievement by Bala
  btw, Kamal kooda bala padam pannanumnnu sila per aasa pattaangalae... Antha padathukkum ippadi oru comment vantha, athvum bala voda achievement ah !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:52:15 2007.

  and "Caste" ukkum Porantha Idathukkum enna relation irukkum
  
  thamiz, could you please enlighten us more
  Am I missing something here ?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:52:31 2007.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: MADDY wrote: i think, this mite be Arya's last movie One more achivement from Bala Yes, It is indeed an achievement by Bala btw, Kamal kooda bala padam pannanumnnu sila per aasa pattaangalae... Antha padathukkum ippadi oru comment vantha, athvum bala voda achievement ah !

  
  
  I don't know whether you understood my Vanjapugazhchi here
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 2:55:12 2007.

  oh athu "vanjapugazchi" yaa anyway, leave it Joe
  btw, Aarya vukku ithu last movie yaa irunthaa, athu thukkamaana seithi thaan (his change of looks and all )
  How that can be an achiement ?
  Aarya nadippu ungalukku pudikkaatha thaalaa ??
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 2:56:41 2007.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Aarya nadippu ungalukku pudikkaatha thaalaa ??

  
  
  Aama thalaiva
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 2:59:58 2007.

  Aarya Is a good Actor IMHO (Kalaba Kaathlan & Pattiyal) And he will be groomed well In BALA's School and become a great actor
  
  

• From: kamath on Mon Dec 3 2:59:59 2007.

  nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila.
  
  Paavam arya.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 3:03:19 2007.

  kamath wrote:

  nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya.

  
  
  It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 3:04:39 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  kamath wrote: nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya. It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 3:09:49 2007.

  joe wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: kamath wrote: nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya. It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 3:12:46 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  kamath wrote: nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya. It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja

  
  Ajith ah anuppurathukku munnaadi Bala atha thaan pannikittu irunthaar
  --------
  
  P.S: btw, MODS banned "sanjay" for using the nickname of "RB CHOUDRY's first son" for Ajith @ Thala.. Wish they do the samething for ALL
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Dec 3 6:36:23 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Aarya Is a good Actor IMHO (Kalaba Kaathlan & Pattiyal)

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 7:48:59 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  Prove it or shut up!!!

  
  
  I am damn sure about it, because I read his series in AV. As someone pointed it out, he is from Theni/Kambam side.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 7:52:46 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: Aarya Is a good Actor IMHO (Kalaba Kaathlan & Pattiyal)

  
  Freeya Vidu Freeya Vidu Freeya vidu maamaaee
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 3 7:54:43 2007.

  thilak4life wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: Aarya Is a good Actor IMHO (Kalaba Kaathlan & Pattiyal)

  
  
  Apdi oru padam vanthathu theriyaatha??? Kozhuthini Maama mela Romba love aayi.... Aasai/uyir madhiri oru movie. Aarya would have dealt well his character of loving his wife aswel caring for his machini
  Hmmm... Namakellam apdi oru kudupinai illa
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 3 7:56:47 2007.

  MADDY wrote:

  i think, this mite be Arya's last movie

  
  
  kanna MADDY,
  
  Ippadi oru nappasaiyaa? Vishnuvardhan starts his next movie, Sarvam, with Arjun and Arya He has done good job both in Arinthum Ariyamalum and Pattiyal. He hasn't worked with any good directors except Vishnu and now Bala. So better luck after next time
  
  

• From: leosimha on Mon Dec 3 8:13:25 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  kamath wrote: nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya. It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Messi on Mon Dec 3 9:36:38 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  kamath wrote: nalla velai, jiththan bala kitta maatikila. Paavam arya. It shud be otherway - Nalla Velai Bala Jithan kitta maatikala. If then Bala Would have dropped the idea about making films anymore and would have settled down in his village happily smoking Kanja

  Ajith, a pakka gentleman, has escaped from a crew of low class and undeciplined drug addicts
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 10:24:31 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: Prove it or shut up!!! I am damn sure about it, .

  
  
  Yeah keep saying that NONSENSE!
  
  I have a cousin who got an invitation from Bala when he got married...
  
  Wait I will call him and talk to him and get back to you!!!
  
  People say Kh was born in Paramakudi but that is not TRUE either!!
  
  Bala moved around because his dad had govt job. I am talking about his native and roots. He can never be related to BR.
  
  Rajasaram:
  
  It is an outrageous MISINTERPRETATION if call that as a "caste war" or some nonsense like that!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 10:28:03 2007.

  thamiz,
  Aen Judge mela ivvalavu kobam
  
  

  Quote:

  I have a cousin who got an invitation from Bala when he got married... Wait I will call him and talk to him and get back to you!!! People say Kh was born in Paramakudi but that is not TRUE either!!

  
  
  
  

• From: c4ramesh on Mon Dec 3 10:31:23 2007.

  thamiz, tension agadinga......
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:10:14 2007.

  selva:
  
  If judge says, u r (selva) born and brought up bangalore, how would you react?
  
  You may say to your friends that u r from bangalore as sivakasi is too small to describe.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:13:27 2007.

  c4ramesh wrote:

  thamiz, tension agadinga......

  
  
  I am sick and tired of hearing the phrase, I know it for sure...
  
  Only he knows everything is for sure??
  
  We should just BUY any crap he says if he says that I know it for sure??
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 11:15:02 2007.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Adadaa Inga Oru Jaathi Kalavaram Nadakuthey

  
  
  And what is this NONSENSE this guy says???
  
  Does not he know the difference?!!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Dec 3 11:45:14 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  selva: If judge says, u r (selva) born and brought up bangalore, how would you react? You may say to your friends that u r from bangalore as sivakasi is too small to describe.

  
  
  thamiz,
  Had I written my autobiography in AV and if I had mentioned that I was born and brought up at sivakasi, then obviously everyone will think that I am from sivakasi. Again, it is related to my native. what I say is the one that will get counted. In that case, for others they will have my AV series as the proof.. Had I lied there, we cannot blame it on others .. Right
  
  And Judge doesnt have a cousin who gets invited to Bala's marriage
  
  He believes in AV & since this is from Bala - The man himself.. then a person like judge or even others (Joe) will believe that he is from that location only.
  
  If you think that he is not from that location and if u have ur own source, then I think we should either blame it on AV or Bala ..
  May be bala kanja adichu etho sonnatha AV publish panni irukkalaam who knows..
  Judge ithukku enna pannuvaar or even JOE for that matter
  
  

  Quote:

  Bala is maRavar (thEvar) community which is not in madurai district.

  
  
  btw, I dont understand the point here maRavar community Madurai layae illa apadingureengala
  
  P.S: Please redirect your question on RS's post to RS I am sure he will have an answer or you can get some reply
  
  

• From: RC on Mon Dec 3 11:47:53 2007.

  Thamizh: tension thaNikka PP-ai etti paakuradhu
  
  

• From: rocketboy on Mon Dec 3 11:59:10 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: thamiz wrote: Prove it or shut up!!! I am damn sure about it, . Yeah keep saying that NONSENSE!

  
  
  I think tamizh plans to write a paper on this
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 12:06:28 2007.

  selvakumar wrote:

  If you think that he is not from that location and if u have ur own source, then I think we should either blame it on AV or Bala .. May be bala kanja adichu etho sonnatha AV publish panni irukkalaam who knows.. Judge ithukku enna pannuvaar or even JOE for that matter

  
  
  As usual ,I second you.
  
  I am not sure what is bala's ancestors native ..But I am sure I have seen in Vijay Tv ,Bala talking in front of his house where he born and brought up ,he introduced his family ,relatives and it is a village near Periya kuLam,he mentioned.
  
  For info about Bala ,Tamizh may beleive his/her cousin more than bala..But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:20:52 2007.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: If you think that he is not from that location and if u have ur own source, then I think we should either blame it on AV or Bala .. May be bala kanja adichu etho sonnatha AV publish panni irukkalaam who knows.. Judge ithukku enna pannuvaar or even JOE for that matter As usual ,I second you. I am not sure what is bala's ancestors native ..But I am sure I have seen in Vijay Tv ,Bala talking in front of his house where he born and brought up ,he introduced his family ,relatives and it is a village near Periya kuLam,he mentioned. For info about Bala ,Tamizh may beleive his/her cousin more than bala..But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry

  
  
  
  
  
  Joe: You are right. I dont believe Kh is born in paramakudi as he himself claims either.
  
  
  Anyway it is ok! Let me double chck my notion and give the information.
  
  I wissh I am wrong all the way!
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Dec 3 12:31:24 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  I dont believe Kh is born in paramakudi as he himself claims either.

  
  
  தமிழ்,
  கமல்ஹாசன் பிறந்த போது அவரது குடும்பம் சென்னைக்கு குடிபெயர்ந்திருக்கலாம் .ஆனால் கமல்ஹாசன் தன் சொந்த ஊர் பரமகுடி என்று சொல்வதில் தவறில்லை ..பொதுவாக தந்தையின் ஊர் தான் ஒருவருக்கு சொந்த ஊர் (அவர் எங்கே பிறந்தாலும்)
  
  என்னுடைய மாமா பிள்ளைகள் பிறந்து வளர்ந்தது கடலூரில் .ஆனால் அவர்களை கேட்டால் தங்களை நாகர்கோவில் காரர்கள் என்றே சொல்வார்கள் .காரணம் அவர்கள் அப்பா ஊர் நாகர் கோவில்.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:33:50 2007.

  Joe, Kh was born in Ramanathapuram, then when he was little moved to paramakudi as his dad moved threre. But his bithplace is Ramanathapuram. I have never seen anywhere it is said that way.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 12:36:18 2007.

  RC wrote:

  Thamizh: tension thaNikka PP-ai etti paakuradhu

  
  
  RC: நீங்க தேனி-போடி ஏரியா தானே? உங்களுக்கு பாலா பூர்வீகம் தெரியுமா?
  
  

• From: RC on Mon Dec 3 12:59:09 2007.

  thamizh: vitta unga sondha ooru madurai thaanE... ungaLukku azhagiri pathi theriyumaa-nu kEppeenga pOla irukkE?
  
  81-85-la naan bOdinayakkanur & theni-la iskoool padichirukkuren. avLo thaan. Bala pathiyum theriyaadhu... ameer pathiyum theriyaadhu!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 3 22:13:28 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  Joe, Kh was born in Ramanathapuram, then when he was little moved to paramakudi as his dad moved threre. But his bithplace is Ramanathapuram. I have never seen anywhere it is said that way.

  
  Yes, if im not wrong, he was born in Ramanathapuram palace (anyone who has seen Vijay TV's Thalaivar special may confirm this)
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:36:07 2007.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  thamiz wrote: Joe, Kh was born in Ramanathapuram, then when he was little moved to paramakudi as his dad moved threre. But his bithplace is Ramanathapuram. I have never seen anywhere it is said that way. Yes, if im not wrong, he was born in Ramanathapuram palace (anyone who has seen Vijay TV's Thalaivar special may confirm this)

  
  
  You are correct Bala.
  
  His dad, Mr. Srinivasan and Ramanatha sethupathy were close friends and Kh was born in Ramanathapuram palace!
  
  They moved to Paramakudi in a year or two!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:40:27 2007.

  equanimus wrote:

  I just lookup up Bala's autobiographical series he wrote in Anandha Vikatan. Narayana Thevanpatti (near Kambam) is his native. His family later moved to Vadipatti. Later, his parents gave him up for adoption to his aththai, with whom he moved to Periyakulam.

  
  
  Name
  Date of Birth 11-07-1966
  Plac e of Birth Madurai
  
  
  http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html
  
  Which one is correct???
  
  narayana thevanpatti Kambam or madurai??
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 22:48:38 2007.

  joe wrote:

  But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry

  
  
  The following is also (born in madurai) said by bala and which one is correct??
  
  AV or the following directorbala.com???
  
  http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html
  
  

• From: RC on Mon Dec 3 23:19:00 2007.

  thamiz: What makes you think that what is written in directorbala.com is by Bala himself? Isn't it possible that the site is hosted by a third party or his fan?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Mon Dec 3 23:23:39 2007.

  RC wrote:

  thamiz: What makes you think that what is written in directorbala.com is by Bala himself? Isn't it possible that the site is hosted by a third party or his fan?

  
  
  Possible, RC!
  
  I just showed the inconsistency! That is all
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 4 1:48:11 2007.

  thamiz,
  
  I believe AV series more than your cousin's vaakumoolam. Bala-va vanthu solla sollu naan thirithikkiran.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Dec 4 4:22:46 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  joe wrote: But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry The following is also (born in madurai) said by bala and which one is correct?? AV or the following directorbala.com??? http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html

  
  
  I would prefer video ,in which Bala talked ,than a written statement available in website or magazine.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 10:37:43 2007.

  joe wrote:

  thamiz wrote: joe wrote: But we are in a position to beleive what bala said about himself instead of confirm with Tamizh's cousin..I am sorry The following is also (born in madurai) said by bala and which one is correct?? AV or the following directorbala.com??? http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html I would prefer video ,in which Bala talked ,than a written statement available in website or magazine.

  
  joe/judge
  
  Not a problem.
  
  I just found that hard to accept because of some conversation we had as he was known to cousin. That is all. I could very well be wrong. May be imagined too much because of scenes in his movies like
  
  * eervaadi dharhA in sethu (in ramnad district)
  
  * younger generation of sethypathy kingdom in nandha (where rajkiran plays that character btw he is also from Ramnad district).
  
  It is quite possible that I am wrong. I just found that hard to accept as I was thinking in a different angle and never thought he had anything to do with BR neighborhood.
  
  However, I will give the information I gather later whether you care to read or not, it hardly matters to me.
  
  Take it easy, folks.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 10:44:29 2007.

  selvakumar wrote:

  btw, I dont understand the point here maRavar community Madurai layae illa apadingureengala

  
  
  I do not say that but there is a difference in their lifestyle and culture.
  
  The difference is the difference in culture of people shown in
  
  maNvAsanai. virumANdi Vs paruththiveeran and Acharya!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 4 14:14:19 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  However, I will give the information I gather later whether you care to read or not, it hardly matters to me.

  
  
  I hope you comeback with your answer. I want to see your face when you are admitting that I am right
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Dec 4 15:36:18 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: However, I will give the information I gather later whether you care to read or not, it hardly matters to me. I hope you comeback with your answer. I want to see your face when you are admitting that I am right

  
  
  First of all, I am NOT a COWARD like you to hide the FACTS when it comes against my statements!
  
  Second of all, I know "some minds" which will keep saying some crap of what they believe as right is always right, even if my "reseach" "efforts" and "results" and the facts favor me!
  
  And STOP provoking me, right here!
  
  

• From: kamath on Wed Dec 5 2:02:31 2007.

  Judge,
  
  Thamizh always make personal attacks.
  
  He never replies to the topic.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 5 2:45:40 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  First of all, I am NOT a COWARD like you to hide the FACTS when it comes against my statements! Second of all, I know "some minds" which will keep saying some crap of what they believe as right is always right, even if my "reseach" "efforts" and "results" and the facts favor me! And STOP provoking me, right here!

  
  
  What do you think made me to say those words? Simple your previous statements. Just find out the answer and say it here, we are not here to find out who is coward and who is not.
  
  We know the truth and we will make you accept the truth
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Wed Dec 5 2:49:30 2007.

  kamath wrote:

  Judge, Thamizh always make personal attacks. He never replies to the topic.

  
  
  And the mods always stay away. If I had said that, I would have been banned twice ( )
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Dec 5 3:24:23 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  equanimus wrote: I just lookup up Bala's autobiographical series he wrote in Anandha Vikatan. Narayana Thevanpatti (near Kambam) is his native. His family later moved to Vadipatti. Later, his parents gave him up for adoption to his aththai, with whom he moved to Periyakulam. Name Date of Birth 11-07-1966 Plac e of Birth Madurai http://www.directorbala.com/aboutme.html Which one is correct??? narayana thevanpatti Kambam or madurai??

  
  
  Thamiz,
  Uh, I wasn't refuting your claim or anybody else's. I just noted down what he had written over there. (I'm a trivia-monger, you see. ) What I had noted down was a verbatim translation of what he had written over there about his childhood. In one of the first few pages, he writes that his "pUrvIgam" is Narayan Thevanpatti ("Kambam arugE," he adds). And, then he talks about how his family moved to Vadipatti as his dad (who worked in a bank) was transferred to a branch over there. And, then he mentions about how his aththai adopted him and he moved to Periyakulam with her.
  This need not even be the "complete information" about him as it's limited by what he included and what he didn't. I didn't talk specifically about his place of birth or any such detail, precisely because I am not aware of it! Narayana Thevanpatti 'nnu oru ooru irukkunnE enakku theriyAdhu, leave aside which district it belongs to.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:39:17 2007.

  equanimus wrote:

  Thamiz, Uh, I wasn't refuting your claim or anybody else's. I just noted down what he had written over there. (I'm a trivia-monger, you see. ) What I had noted down was a verbatim translation of what he had written over there about his childhood. In one of the first few pages, he writes that his "pUrvIgam" is Narayan Thevanpatti ("Kambam arugE," he adds). And, then he talks about how his family moved to Vadipatti as his dad (who worked in a bank) was transferred to a branch over there. And, then he mentions about how his aththai adopted him and he moved to Periyakulam with her. This need not even be the "complete information" about him as it's limited by what he included and what he didn't. I didn't talk specifically about his place of birth or any such detail, precisely because I am not aware of it! Narayana Thevanpatti 'nnu oru ooru irukkunnE enakku theriyAdhu, leave aside which district it belongs to.

  
  
  இப்போ என் "நொஷன்" ஐ கட்டாயம் நான் டபுள்-செக் பண்ணனும்!
  
  எனக்கு மதுரை மற்றும் ராம்னாட் புறநகர்ப்பகுதியில் நண்பர்கள் உண்டு.
  அவர்கள் பாலா வை தன் சொந்தக்காரர்கள் என்று சொல்லத்துடிப்பார்கள்,
  
  கொஞ்சம் விசாரித்துவிட்டு வர்றேன்.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 5 8:44:59 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  இப்போ என் "நொஷன்" ஐ கட்டாயம் நான் டபுள்-செக் பண்ணனும்! எனக்கு மதுரை மற்றும் ராம்னாட் புறநகர்ப்பகுதியில் நண்பர்கள் உண்டு. அவர்கள் பாலா வை தன் சொந்தக்காரர்கள் என்று சொல்லத்துடிப்பார்கள், கொஞ்சம் விசாரித்துவிட்டு வர்றேன்.

  
  
  innum investigation mudiyalaiya?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:47:53 2007.

  ரொம்ப அவசரப்பட்டா எப்படி? பொறுமை. 4-6 வருடத்துக்கு பிறகு கூட பதில் வரலாம்!
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Dec 5 8:48:05 2007.

  Athan Ananda Vikatan-la Bala thannoda sarithiram ezhuthinare, athula avar pirathna idam varalaiya
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 8:50:15 2007.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  Athan Ananda Vikatan-la Bala thannoda sarithiram ezhuthinare, athula avar pirathna idam varalaiya

  
  
  எனக்கு தெரிய சிலர் பெர்த் சான்றிதழ் வாங்கயிலே பிறந்த ஊரையே மாற்றியுள்ளனர்!!!!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Dec 5 9:00:18 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  எனக்கு தெரிய சிலர் பெர்த் சான்றிதழ் வாங்கயிலே பிறந்த ஊரையே மாற்றியுள்ளனர்!!!!

  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Dec 5 9:02:07 2007.

  தமிழ்,
  பாலா பத்தி வேற ஏதாவது செய்தி இருக்கா ?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Dec 5 11:54:10 2007.

  selvakumar wrote:

  தமிழ், பாலா பத்தி வேற ஏதாவது செய்தி இருக்கா ?

  
  
  செல்வா!!!
  
  என்ன லந்த கொடுக்குறீங்களா?!
  
  நான் நல்லா தெரிந்ததுனு சொன்ன விஷயமே இந்த நிலையில் இருக்கு!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 6 13:52:44 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  ரொம்ப அவசரப்பட்டா எப்படி? பொறுமை. 4-6 வருடத்துக்கு பிறகு கூட பதில் வரலாம்!

  
  
  thamiz,
  
  enna unga cousinkku fone pottachcha illa innum line kidaikaliyaa? 40 varusham kooda eduthukkunga, aana marakkaama inga vanthu answera sollittu ponga, enna naan solrathu puriyuthaa?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Dec 6 14:26:50 2007.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: ரொம்ப அவசரப்பட்டா எப்படி? பொறுமை. 4-6 வருடத்துக்கு பிறகு கூட பதில் வரலாம்! thamiz, enna unga cousinkku fone pottachcha illa innum line kidaikaliyaa?

  
  
  Let me be very honest with you, EVEN if I call my COUSIN and get the information- if it favors what I claimed-, I know you will read the SAME STORY that you believe in AV and make fun of me like you guys did before.
  
  GO BACK and READ those comments by you and your friends!
  
  So, do you think I will ever come back with any information as my cousin says, ever again, knowing that what kind of people I interact wtih now?! If you think like that you are a FOOL!
  
  You dont seem to know the "quality" of people with whom you intereact with! So, I suggest you to stop this discussin right here.
  
  And right now, let it be like he is from periyakulam or kambam or madurai or whatsoever, and that my notion was wrong! Take care!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 6 14:54:02 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  Let me be very honest with you, EVEN if I call my COUSIN and get the information- if it favors what I claimed-, I know you will read the SAME STORY that you believe in AV and make fun of me like you guys did before. GO BACK and READ those comments by you and your friends! So, do you think I will ever come back with any information as my cousin says, ever again, knowing that what kind of people I interact wtih now?! If you think like that you are a FOOL! You dont seem to know the "quality" of people with whom you intereact with! So, I suggest you to stop this discussin right here. And right now, let it be like he is from periyakulam or kambam or madurai or whatsoever, and that my notion was wrong! Take care!

  
  
  naan thaan unga posts paththu tension aganum, neenga ethukku tension agareenga?
  
  

• From: app_engine on Tue Dec 11 17:42:23 2007.

  Digression:
  
  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/35116.html
  
  KB in his speech showered praise on director Ameer for creating a hero in is film. He was mentioning about Karthi. “Heroes are not born. They are made. Ameer has made Karthi a hero”, said KB. “I was very particular to attend this function since I could not attend the 100th day function of Chennai 600028”, he further added.
  
  End-Digression
  
  
  Is Bala capable of "making" heroes?
  
  

• From: RC on Tue Dec 11 18:03:05 2007.

  app_engine: Did he not "make" Vikram ? Did he not "make" Surya?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Sat Dec 15 21:13:16 2007.

  ஜட்ஜ், ஜோ மற்றும், ஈகுவானிமஸ்!!!
  
  இதுவரைக்கும் விசாரித்ததில் என்னுடைய "நோஷன்" தவறு என்று தெரிகிறது
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 16 2:22:27 2007.

  thamiz wrote:

  ஜட்ஜ், ஜோ மற்றும், ஈகுவானிமஸ்!!! இதுவரைக்கும் விசாரித்ததில் என்னுடைய "நோஷன்" தவறு என்று தெரிகிறது

  
  
  thamiz,
  
  I believe AV series because it was written by Bala himself. If your notion is right, Bala lied about his native place in it. Looks like Bala was not lying
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Dec 16 3:13:18 2007.

  பாலா இயக்கும் `நான் கடவுள்' படத்திற்காக ஒரு வேனை வாங்கி அது முழுவதும் எரிந்து சாம்பலாகும்வரை படமாக்கியிருக்கிறார்கள். இந்த வேன் எரிப்பு காட்சி படத்தின் முக்கிய திருப்புமுனைக் காட்சி.
  http://www.dailythanthi.com/magazines/nyaru_kudumpa_Cinema.htm
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:07:33 2008.

  Cannibalism rumour surfaces again
  
  Cannibalism in 'Naan Kadavul'?
  IndiaGlitz [Saturday, February 09, 2008]
  
  The last schedule of director Bala’s ‘Naan Kadavul’ is taking place in Kasi. The first schedule too was held here in a set that was erected at the cost of some lakhs. The insiders inform that Bala did not insist the same kind of sets be recreated and that he settled for different locations.
  
  The entire team, including hero Arya, would be quite relieved that the intense journey for the film is about to come to an end. The team is very happy about the outcome of the movie.
  
  ‘Naan Kadavul’, which has triggered more controversies than any other films in the recent times, is now in the eye of a new controversy at the time of its completion. It is about a disgusting scene in the climax. It is said that Arya eats human flesh from a dead body in the climax. It is also said that the scene was objected by the producers and that Bala had accepted to consider changing it.
  
  Bala is a kind of director, who never gives up when it comes to changing his story. He is known for shocking portrayals that tend to defy the public sentiments or the set norms of Kollywood. In ‘Sethu’, he sends back the hero to the mental asylum and in ‘Pithamagan’, the film opens in a grave yard - much against Tamil cinema’s sentiment – and at the end, Vikram is beaten up by Sangeetha by broom stick.
  
  So, one wonders if Bala would accept to change such a scene, if it is required for his story. As of now, it is for sure that we cannot be sure of anything.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 3:11:28 2008.

  I think MADDY posted about this months back.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:17:10 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  I think MADDY posted about this months back.

  
  
  But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 3:20:36 2008.

  munavellam audience reaction-kaaga climax-a maathuvaanga. Ippo edukkarthukku munnadiye maatharaangala?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 3:20:40 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request

  
  Padam odavenamaa
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 3:30:53 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request Padam odavenamaa

  
  
  Ungalukku oodakudathunnu ennaM
  Enakku odanum-nnu ennam.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 3:53:34 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Padam odavenamaa

  
  
  So far Bala stuck with his ideas for Sethu, and PM irrespective of what others think. That is the prime reason for their success. I don't think Bala will change NK's climax because of its producers. I believe it is one of the new rumours doing the rounds. I don't think he is that kind of a person, he will do what he thinks is right for his script.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 4:02:56 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request

  
  
  i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga .........
  
  Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:12:52 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga ......... Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews

  
  
  
  
  (no wonder with our "reviewers")
  
  I don't think it's about promoting cannabilism. A film with killing scenes shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting. I also heard the film has its moments of necrophilia. Not sure..
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:18:33 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga ......... Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 4:20:32 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  MADDY wrote: MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga ......... Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews I don't think it's about promoting cannabilism. A film with killing shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting.

  
  
  thilak - for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 11 4:23:59 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: MADDY wrote: MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga ......... Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews I don't think it's about promoting cannabilism. A film with killing shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting. thilak - for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......

  
  
  And call it realistic
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:24:28 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......

  
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:28:51 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  MADDY wrote: for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......

  
  
  Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context ..
  
  Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified .
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:29:19 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: MADDY wrote: MrJudge wrote: selvakumar wrote: I think MADDY posted about this months back. But the news is that Bala is willing to change the climax on producer's request i too heard it from some source - not a concrete one selva.......hmmm, now, i feel it is true then......cannibalism - tamil makkal "super" sonnalum solluvaanga ......... Arya manidha maamisathhai saappidum kaatchi miga arumayaga edukka pattulladhu........yadarthathhin uchha kattam - is some of the lines u can expect in reviews I don't think it's about promoting cannabilism. A film with killing shouldn't neccesarily mean it's promoting. thilak - for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired .......

  
  
  Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:31:15 2008.

  joe wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: MADDY wrote: for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context .. Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified .

  
  
  Nanda la Surya Kills his father and says in the later part of the movie "Antha vayasula adicha sethuduvaanga nu enakku theriyathu ma"
  
  Sethu vikram really doesn't do anything wrong to harm the society ...
  
  But Ganja dealer as heroine hmmmmm questionable...
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:31:18 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI

  
  
  A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:32:26 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal

  
  
  Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch....
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:32:33 2008.

  joe wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: MADDY wrote: for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context .. Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified .

  
  
  So, Hero-va thappa kamikkaradhu innum periya thappu thaane?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:33:02 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Sethu vikram really doesn't do anything wrong to harm the society ...

  
  
  His was shown as a adavadi /arrogant student leader and I don't think anywhere it was justified.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:34:55 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  joe wrote: thilak4life wrote: MADDY wrote: for many indians including me - hero cannot be wrong.........watever he does, there will be a reema sen chaa reesan for it .........we are still in that mindset........so, if u show hero is cannibal - we are bound to get inspired ....... Siripellam OK .But Here ,especially in Bala's thread ,what is the context .. Almost all bala movies ,Heroes can be wrong and mostly it was not justified . So, Hero-va thappa kamikkaradhu innum periya thappu thaane?

  
  
  Thappu-nnu neenga thaan sollureenga ..Naan sollala
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:36:13 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: Sethu vikram really doesn't do anything wrong to harm the society ... His was shown as a adavadi /arrogant student leader and I don't think anywhere it was justified.

  
  
  Adavaadi ya irunthaalum he doesn't commit any crime.. his soft/good heart was shown in many part of the movie, Aaana manushana manushane thingara oru character a engalaala hero va ethukka mudiyathu... Moreover a sad climax on bala's part is becoming repetitive, once in a while its ok....
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:36:32 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch....

  
  
  OK.Heroine-na hero-va kathalikanum ..duet paadanum ..ozukkamana ponna irukkanum ..ithaana unga ethirpaarppu
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:37:46 2008.

  Btw, I was playing around. As far as Bala films go, I'm a big fan of his narrative. I don't think realism is his forte (per se). He believes in creativity, and scripts his own fictional characters (sketching with guidance from reality, but he doesn't ape reality), presented in a fascinating depiction of the backdrop (From Rameshwaram in Nanda to the lust forest/Ganja fields in Pithamagan)
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:37:53 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Aaana manushana manushane thingara oru character a engalaala hero va ethukka mudiyathu...

  
  
  Athu pathi padam vantha piragu pesalam ..ippave assumption-la pesa mudiyathu.
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:37:55 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch.... OK.Heroine-na hero-va kathalikanum ..duet paadanum ..ozukkamana ponna irukkanum ..ithaana unga ethirpaarppu

  
  
  Nothing like that.. Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid...
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 4:38:55 2008.

  ella padathilum happy ending kudutha ok, aana sad climax kudutha ok illiya?
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:39:43 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: Aaana manushana manushane thingara oru character a engalaala hero va ethukka mudiyathu... Athu pathi padam vantha piragu pesalam ..ippave assumption-la pesa mudiyathu.

  
  
  Ok then lets end it here... I also like Bala's narration.. but for some of his movies ending ironically
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:39:56 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid...

  
  Do you mean ..Tamil nattula Kanja vikkura pompaLaiye kidayathu
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:40:37 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Ungalukku oodakudathunnu ennaM Enakku odanum-nnu ennam.

  
  So, you agree with the change in climax (Even before the release.. if it happens )
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:42:00 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Ungalukku oodakudathunnu ennaM Enakku odanum-nnu ennam. So, you agree with the change in climax (Even before the release.. if it happens )

  
  
  I didn't talk about climax change ..Please go back and chk what statement of yours i quoted.
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:42:44 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  ella padathilum happy ending kudutha ok, aana sad climax kudutha ok illiya?

  
  
  Ella padathulayum sad ending kudutha he is easily predictable.. Thats what I mean.. once in a while its ok... Balu mahendra neenga ketavai kudutha maadri ethavathu kudukalaame..
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:48:24 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Ella padathulayum sad ending kudutha he is easily predictable.. Thats what I mean.. once in a while its ok...

  
  
  Motham vanthirukkurathe 3 padam thaan
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:50:34 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I didn't talk about climax change ..Please go back and chk what statement of yours i quoted.

  
  hmm.. Atleast I was making that related to the climax change. Judge said that bala doesn't do that normally (bending to producer's wish). I justified it by telling that film should run in the box office.
  
  naan oda koodathunnu nenacha, athe climax ah vaikka solli iruppen
  
  & Yaa.. I don't want this film to win aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing
  
  namma vimarsagargalukku therindha ore vaartha "I liked the way it was meant to be" .. like killing a couple, beating a BPO employee etc
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:51:00 2008.

  [quote="joe"]

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Ella padathulayum sad ending kudutha he is easily predictable.. Thats what I mean.. once in a while its ok...[/]quote] Motham vanthirukkurathe 3 padam thaan

  
  
  3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame...
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 4:52:57 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: I didn't talk about climax change ..Please go back and chk what statement of yours i quoted. hmm.. Atleast I was making that related to the climax change. Judge said that bala doesn't do that normally (bending to producer's wish). I justified it by telling that film should run in the box office. naan oda koodathunnu nenacha, athe climax ah vaikka solli iruppen & Yaa.. I don't want this film to win aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing namma vimarsagargalukku therindha ore vaartha "I liked the way it was meant to be" .. like killing a couple, beating a BPO employee etc

  
  
  That was way too imaginary... Anti-Hero character na kooda othukalaam.. like how kamal did it in Aalavanthaan... Aaana ivanga pannathuku ellam oru justification vera...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 4:53:37 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame...

  
  Ada neenga vera
  
  Padatha ellarum appreciate panna venaama
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:54:37 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: I didn't talk about climax change ..Please go back and chk what statement of yours i quoted. hmm.. Atleast I was making that related to the climax change. Judge said that bala doesn't do that normally (bending to producer's wish). I justified it by telling that film should run in the box office. naan oda koodathunnu nenacha, athe climax ah vaikka solli iruppen & Yaa.. I don't want this film to win aanalum kavalai illai.. coz as MADDY said... "ethaartham, narrative, "it was mean to be like that" statements will FLOW like any thing namma vimarsagargalukku therindha ore vaartha "I liked the way it was meant to be" .. like killing a couple, beating a BPO employee etc

  
  
  Selva,
  If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 4:55:01 2008.

  I think he's a master of morbid characterization, melodrama, and sentimentalism. As a fan, me too would like to see him go beyond that. The poignant ending has become a trademark too..
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 4:56:40 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: 3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame... Ada neenga vera Padatha ellarum appreciate panna venaama

  
  
  Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:00:29 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Selva, If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success.

  
  Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:01:17 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Selva, If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success. Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything.

  
  
  Ithellam over-u!
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:02:27 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Selva, If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success. Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything.

  
  
  Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:03:25 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen.

  
  Unmai thaan.. Athukku ethukku sirikkanum. I infact posted against the *climax change*. that was one of the bad changes.. Even Mugavari change was good.
  
  I never said "Padam enakku odanum, athanaala producer sonna vudanae, naramaamisam thingira scene ah eduthiranum" etc etc
  
  Ippo naan ethukkaga sirikka
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:05:43 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch.... OK.Heroine-na hero-va kathalikanum ..duet paadanum ..ozukkamana ponna irukkanum ..ithaana unga ethirpaarppu Nothing like that.. Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid...

  
  
  point
  
  Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical......
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:06:30 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen. Unmai thaan.. Athukku ethukku sirikkanum. I infact posted against the *climax change*. that was one of the bad changes.. Even Mugavari change was good. I never said "Padam enakku odanum, athanaala producer sonna vudanae, naramaamisam thingira scene ah eduthiranum" etc etc Ippo naan ethukkaga sirikka

  
  
  You sounded like bala keep sad ending climaxes to get pesudo -appreciation (Pls refer your previous post) ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax .
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:08:25 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  3 ume sad ending thaane.. bala padam na ithu thaan da climax nu makkal sollara maadri irukka kudathu... 3 padathulayum climax sad a iruntha ok ..3 padathulayum climax la saavu... Saavu illama vera maadri sad ending vekkalaame...

  
  
  Even if NK has a sad ending, people will love to see how he finishes of the script sadly. When PM was released, people's hearts were in full denial and prayed that the sack should not have surya's body. It was so sad and powerful. I don't mind seeing a sad ending if the story, screenplay are fresh and good and love to see how he ends it.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:08:31 2008.

  Maddy,
  Now you can answer me ,How come having a Kanja dealer lady character is a stupidity ?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:08:44 2008.

  Quote:

  ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax .

  
  You mean..The sad one or the changed one If I am not wrong, many expected Ajith to marry trisha and become a police.. Athaa thaan naan bash pannunaen.
  
  And I am against artificial climaxes.. be it AL VIJAY or BALA
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:09:21 2008.

  I also feel that some of Bala's "twists" are extremely contrived but i like the intensity in his films.
  
  However, im not sure about the surandal part. All film-makers make money by suranding the audience emotions/intellect or whatever. oru padathula romance, oru padathula revenge, escapist fantasy, loss, fear, laughter etc... avanga thozhile oru vagai emathu velai dhaane..
  [By the way, Just wondering aloud]
  

  Maddy wrote:

  Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... Rolling Eyes

  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:09:23 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: joe wrote: Kalyasi wrote: Heroine will be ganja dealer... EKBI A ganja dealer can be a main character in a movie ..what is big deal Neenga enna thaan sonaalum I dont like some of his character sketch.... OK.Heroine-na hero-va kathalikanum ..duet paadanum ..ozukkamana ponna irukkanum ..ithaana unga ethirpaarppu Nothing like that.. Something different is completely acceptable but not something stupid... point Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical......

  
  
  assault-a Ameer-a thooki bala oda serthutingalE..
  
  Anyway Maddy and Selva, I respect your stance against Bala for whatever reasons it may be, nevertheless Bala is flawed at some levels (for me too).
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:10:02 2008.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: joe wrote: Summa.. Kreedom climax ,unga aathangam ..pathi ninachen ..sirichen. Unmai thaan.. Athukku ethukku sirikkanum. I infact posted against the *climax change*. that was one of the bad changes.. Even Mugavari change was good. I never said "Padam enakku odanum, athanaala producer sonna vudanae, naramaamisam thingira scene ah eduthiranum" etc etc Ippo naan ethukkaga sirikka You sounded like bala keep sad ending climaxes to get pesudo -appreciation (Pls refer your previous post) ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax .

  
  
  as far as Kreedam was concerned - the whole point in movie was "police officer-a aaga vendiya payyan, most wanted list-la varuvaan" .....i thot the flow was very natural and ending was just a full stop..........compare that to Nandha - y did surya's mom think he shuld die??? i thot it was somewhat forced/"thinikka paattadhu"........
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:11:34 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Quote: ..But you only complaint for people not aprreciating Kreedom climax . You mean..The sad one or the changed one If I am not wrong, many expected Ajith to marry trisha and become a police.. Athaa thaan naan bash pannunaen. And I am against artificial climaxes.. be it AL VIJAY or BALA

  
  
  I mean the sad one .. Kreedom-la sad climax-a makkal appreciate pannalainnu aathanga patteenga ..bala padathula sad climax iruntha appreciation vaangurathukkaga pannurarnnu sollureenga ..eppadi ?
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:11:36 2008.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: joe wrote: Selva, If I am not wrong ,You started to hate Bala only after a particular problem ..So you wish bala shouldn't be successful ..I don't bother about hat problem and as usual I want see his success. Yes. That was infact an eye opener esp after Pithamagan FYI, I have appreciated sethu like anything. Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine.

  
  
  I am not sure abt selva... But for me it wud have been the same.. I wud have watched the movie for ajith but if he had come up with a canibal characterization I wud never have appreciated him...
  
  For me After Sethu I was really impressed(Coz antha kaalakattathula vantha padathukku vera maadri yaana oru trend setter) Sethu was his best...
  
  Nandha's first half was way too good... Second half was not impressive especially that rajeswari character..
  
  Pithamagan was good until the climax... But then again he was repetitive and I felt that the movie was incomplete...
  
  Now from this movie I expect arya to die in the climax... Let me keep my fingers crossed and see whether he surprises me...
  
  I am only against some of his character sketch and repetitve sad endings... Not his screenplay and narration/// He is a lot more talented.. can experiment with different things..
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:13:01 2008.

  It has become a stage that a positive denoument would be termed "manipulative" in a Bala film.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:13:17 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine.

  
  Ithula enna aacharyam. Pras knows very well how much we were against Pithamagan We weren't much against sethu or nanda.
  Infact our own sakalakalavallavar termed pithamagan as a crap. naanga mattum illeengovv (read it in goundar style) intha list la
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:14:41 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  compare that to Nandha - y did surya's mom think he shuld die??? i thot it was somewhat forced/"thinikka paattadhu"........

  
  
  His mom was not at all attached to him after he kills his own father. I don't think she took that decision instantly and kills him overnight.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:14:47 2008.

  kalyasi,
  My assumption is applicable only to Selva .
  
  Anyway ,Thanks for your views
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:16:04 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  I also feel that some of Bala's "twists" are extremely contrived but i like the intensity in his films. However, im not sure about the surandal part. All film-makers make money by suranding the audience emotions/intellect or whatever. oru padathula romance, oru padathula revenge, escapist fantasy, loss, fear, laughter etc...

  
  Everyone can't be put in this. If then I can rate the surandal of Perarasu << than Bala.. Correct me if I am wrong
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:18:10 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Thanks for the confession ..Naan kadavul padathula Ajith drop aagama irunthiruntha ..neenga Bala pathi eppadi pesuveengannu ..I can imagine. Ithula enna aacharyam. Pras knows very well how much we were against Pithamagan We weren't much against sethu or nanda. Infact our own sakalakalavallavar termed pithamagan as a crap. naanga mattum illeengovv (read it in goundar style) intha list la

  
  
  So you liked Sethu and Nanda ,but hate PM ..so what ? One disappointing movie cannot be a reason to wish bala to fail for ever.
  
  Even I liked only Sethu and PM ,not Nanda.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:18:50 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical......

  
  
  I think they are better than other directors in the tamil field. They haven't done any skin show in their movies for *surandal*, not even a navel scene. Show me any other big director who has done it, be it songs, scenes, they are clean so far. So their surandal is much cleaner than others' surandal.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:19:34 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I mean the sad one .. Kreedom-la sad climax-a makkal appreciate pannalainnu aathanga patteenga ..bala padathula sad climax iruntha appreciation vaangurathukkaga pannurarnnu sollureenga ..eppadi ?

  
  Athaan.
  Iyalbaana manitha unarchigala ippo ulla cinema engayo kondu poyiduchu. Kireedom pazaya andraada vaazhvin unarchiya poyitathaala cinema vila atha anubavikka virumbala pola makkal. Anyway, I won't say kireedom climax was well handled fully now. But thalaikku kireedom mattum alla.. Mugavari kooda ethirpaartha alavukku pola. But Vaali, Varalaaru ellam appreciate pannunaaga.
  
  But pithamagan la vara sad ending maari 100 padathukku bala vachalum appreciate pannura kootam irukku. These days those movies can very well go on to become blockbusters.. We are not for those films..
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:23:18 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  But pithamagan la vara sad ending maari 100 padathukku bala vachalum appreciate pannura kootam irukku. These days those movies can very well go on to become blockbusters.. We are not for those films..

  
  
  Again opinion differs.
  
  IMO ,Pithamagan Climax is much much better than Kreedom Climax .
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:23:23 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: I also feel that some of Bala's "twists" are extremely contrived but i like the intensity in his films. However, im not sure about the surandal part. All film-makers make money by suranding the audience emotions/intellect or whatever. oru padathula romance, oru padathula revenge, escapist fantasy, loss, fear, laughter etc... Everyone can't be put in this. If then I can rate the surandal of Perarasu << than Bala.. Correct me if I am wrong

  
  mm.. well.. ah...
  indha madhiri vishayam ellam sabai la okkandhu deep-a discuss panni dhaan oru sumugamana mudivukku vara mudiyum.
  I'm only reminded of that Gaunder-Senthil comedy
  "ippadiyum sollalaam, neenga solra madhiriyum sollalaam, indha ivaru solra maadhiriyum sollalaam "
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:23:29 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical......

  
  
  How come ameer came in thi list.. he is better than bala.. probably you can include Ram director of Tamizh MA..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:23:46 2008.

  joe wrote:

  So you liked Sethu and Nanda ,but hate PM ..so what ? One disappointing movie cannot be a reason to wish bala to fail for ever. Even I liked only Sethu and PM ,not Nanda.

  
  You are comfortable with his *TYPE* of films. We are not and we don't like the IMAGINATIVE WORLD, CHARACTERS, SAD ENDING, RAW HANDLING etc. Based on the news on NK, I expect a PM. (A repetition of his theme). Gautham ah kooda naanum maddyum criticise panni irukkoem.. for his repetition of villans, filth language etc etc If that can be done for Gautham, why not Bala
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:25:41 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Again opinion differs. IMO ,Pithamagan Climax is much much better than Kreedom Climax .

  
  
  Athe Athe.. Opinion differs. I rate Varalaaru climax much much better than Pithamagan climax
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:26:20 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical...... I think they are better than other directors in the tamil field. They haven't done any skin show in their movies for *surandal*, not even a navel scene. Show me any other big director who has done it, be it songs, scenes, they are clean so far. So their surandal is much better than others' surandal.

  
  
  see, the surandal that these 2 do is of a greater impact - they disturb you deeper, which is what i'm questioning.............i mean, it is disturbing to see some things , being born as a human......dont we see newsreaders warning "these pictures might be disturbing" before showing a accident image/mass killings images?? when u r making movie, u do have a social responsibility - dont call this a farce, u r to an extent shaping up minds or atleast changing their direction of thinking........so, they should be little more careful in depicting raw emotions......a paruthiveeran climax wud have been shown suggestively in a BR movie like a guy chopping off the tender coconut.......that is what i'm looking for.......anyways, i know, they have to be raw to sell in tamil now.......
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 5:28:49 2008.

  Ithellam sariyillai, avalo thaan solluven.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:29:45 2008.

  Maddy,
  Apart from the coconut thing, Pazhaya directors oda movies la intensity kurayaadu illaya
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:30:19 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  mm.. well.. ah... indha madhiri vishayam ellam sabai la okkandhu deep-a discuss panni dhaan oru sumugamana mudivukku vara mudiyum.

  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSzCtJemFvw - indha madhiri oru sabhailiya???
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:30:54 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  see, the surandal that these 2 do is of a greater impact - they disturb you deeper, which is what i'm questioning.............i mean, it is disturbing to see some things , being born as a human......dont we see newsreaders warning "these pictures might be disturbing" before showing a accident image/mass killings images?? when u r making movie, u do have a social responsibility - dont call this a farce, u r to an extent shaping up minds or atleast changing their direction of thinking........so, they should be little more careful in depicting raw emotions......a paruthiveeran climax wud have been shown suggestively in a BR movie like a guy chopping off the tender coconut.......that is what i'm looking for.......anyways, i know, they have to be raw to sell in tamil now.......

  
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:31:16 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  You are comfortable with his *TYPE* of films. We are not and we don't like the IMAGINATIVE WORLD, CHARACTERS, SAD ENDING, RAW HANDLING etc.

  
  
  What do you mean by I am comfortable with his TYPE ? Do you mean I am enjoying the cruelty and arrogance and sad ending ? NO ..I don't take any lesson from these kind of movies ..I just take it as I am watching somebody's narration .That is all ..I only care whether the climax has impact or not ,not serach for Climax is apt for my personal preference or my way of ending the issue..
  
  FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:31:50 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  mm.. well.. ah... indha madhiri vishayam ellam sabai la okkandhu deep-a discuss panni dhaan oru sumugamana mudivukku vara mudiyum. I'm only reminded of that Gaunder-Senthil comedy "ippadiyum sollalaam, neenga solra madhiriyum sollalaam, indha ivaru solra maadhiriyum sollalaam "

  
  neenga sollra maari - Myself
  Avara solra maadhiriyum - Maddy
  correct ah
  
  unga timing
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:34:20 2008.

  Maddy,
  [Not defending Bala's contrived twists which i myself don't like. Just taking it up as a reply to a general point you have raised]
  
  Reg: Symbolically showing the chopping a tender coconut might work sometimes, and might not work sometimes. Its the maker's prerogative. What if the whole intent is to actually make you cringe??. Video-game maadhiri violence-a kaatna chinna pasangalukkum violence remba pudikkum (why do you think WWF is so famous)?
  vali-ya valiya kaamikkaradhum, azhukka zhukka kaamikkaradhum thappilla IMO. In my book, it has to connect with me and not jar. It may shock, inspire awe, be revolting or repulsive but as long as i feel it doesnt jar my movie-watching process and its "genuine" (whatever that means!), im fine with it. In fact, thats how it should be, for me!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:34:46 2008.

  joe wrote:

  What do you mean by I am comfortable with his TYPE ? Do you mean I am enjoying the cruelty and arrogance and sad ending ? NO ..I don't take any lesson from these kind of movies ..I just take it as I am watching somebody's narration .That is all ..I only care whether the climax has impact or not ,not serach for Climax is apt for my personal preference or my way of ending the issue.. FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence.

  
  I have mentioned this in my earlier post only. If u are just happy with narration, then somebody is happy with perarasu's narration. His ending etc. But not all expect narration alone. Few also verify whether a vettiyan exists like that in the real world
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:35:30 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSzCtJemFvw - indha madhiri oru sabhailiya???

  
  idhE dhAn, idhE dhAn
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 11 5:35:55 2008.

  joe wrote:

  FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence.

  
  
  joe... padichadhum unmaiyilaye sirippu vandhuvittadhu
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:37:10 2008.

  joe wrote:

  ..I just take it as I am watching somebody's narration .That is all ..I only care whether the climax has impact or not ,not serach for Climax is apt for my personal preference or my way of ending the issue..

  
  
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 5:41:22 2008.

  I like violent movies in english but when it comes to tamil I dont accept them... I am a big fan of the SAW series and at times I had thot why dont directors in tamil make movies like this... But somehow when I see it on screen in Tamil movies I dont like it.. I myself dont have an answer for it...
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Feb 11 5:43:04 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  I like violent movies in english but when it comes to tamil I dont accept them... I am a big fan of the SAW series and at times I had thot why dont directors in tamil make movies like this... But somehow when I see it on screen in Tamil movies I dont like it.. I myself dont have an answer for it...

  
  I was about to ask this question in general here
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:46:39 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  vali-ya valiya kaamikkaradhum, azhukka zhukka kaamikkaradhum thappilla IMO. In my book, it has to connect with me and not jar. It may shock, inspire awe, be revolting or repulsive but as long as i feel it doesnt jar my movie-watching process and its "genuine" (whatever that means!), im fine with it. In fact, thats how it should be, for me!

  
  
  true .......as long as it makes sense - its good.........but enakku PV climax romba "jar"-iduchhe .......i have never skipped my dinner after watching a movie like i did for PV .......maybe it was repulsion and not jarring......
  
  when ppl. like GM, Vishnu, selvaraghavan are tapping the first layers of human emotions,. bala/ameer have sneaked into the second.......
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:48:15 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  If u are just happy with narration, then somebody is happy with perarasu's narration. His ending etc. But not all expect narration alone.

  
  
  Perarasu I don't have problem with his climax ..happy ending ..happy ..But I don't find anything interesting throughout the movie .
  
  Normally ,I don't hate any movie just for the climax or appreciate any movie just for the climax ...If 2.15 hours are interesting and just 15 mins climax is not upto the mark ,I still prefer that movie ..instead of 2.15 hours mokkai with very good climax for last 15 mins.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 5:48:39 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Maddy, Apart from the coconut thing, Pazhaya directors oda movies la intensity kurayaadu illaya

  
  
  entha directorsa sollreenga?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 5:50:01 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  joe wrote: FYI ,I don't like violence in movies ,most of the time I close my eyes when there is a raw violence. joe... padichadhum unmaiyilaye sirippu vandhuvittadhu

  
  
  enna pannurathu ..sila neram uNmaiya solli thane aaganum
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:53:11 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  true .......as long as it makes sense - its good.........but enakku PV climax romba "jar"-iduchhe .......i have never skipped my dinner after watching a movie like i did for PV .......maybe it was repulsion and not jarring...... when ppl. like GM, Vishnu, selvaraghavan are tapping the first layers of human emotions,. bala/ameer have sneaked into the second.......

  
  First layer - Fims like Karuvelam Pookkal, Veyyil etc
  second layer - GM, Vishnu, Selva..
  above all these things - Bala and his assistants Prob IMAGINATIVE narration, events or "it meant to be like that" etc
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 11 5:54:48 2008.

  joe wrote:

  ]instead of 2.15 hours mokkai with very good climax for last 15 mins.

  
  
  u meant Sivaji and CM??? .....i think its personal preference joe.......i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten
  
  kalyasi, i have a example - i perosonally prefer mallu movies than english movies - cos its closer to my heart when see ppl. of my color/ethinicty on screen......
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:55:05 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  entha directorsa sollreenga?

  
  Directors like BR who prefer the intensity to be in the dialogues like Vedha puthithu etc Prob, *without sensationalism*
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:56:54 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  u meant Sivaji and CM??? .....i think its personal preference joe.......i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten kalyasi, i have a example - i perosonally prefer mallu movies than english movies - cos its closer to my heart when see ppl. of my color/ethinicty on screen......

  
  I didn't compare. But I just brought perarasu for preference, comfortability, narration only etc
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 5:58:52 2008.

  BTW, Why should we apply different yardstick for a movie like 300 and Bala movies ? Then 300 kooda sirantha padamthaane
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 6:09:52 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  u meant Sivaji and CM???..

  
  
  No ..They have atleast 50% interesting ..I am talking about Perarasu movies and movies like Pokkiri
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 11 6:23:16 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Directors like BR who prefer the intensity to be in the dialogues like Vedha puthithu etc Prob, *without sensationalism*

  
  
  We are in the 2000s selva, how long can we see the coconut chopping? Aren't we adults and can't we take the movies as movies? BR's movies are so unreal in many places, I still believe PV outscores any BR movies in nativity. I don't think Ameer/Bala are into sensationalism.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 6:28:59 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  We are in the 2000s selva, how long can we see the coconut chopping? Aren't we adults and can't we take the movies as movies? BR's movies are so unreal in many places, I still believe PV outscores any BR movies in nativity. I don't think Ameer/Bala are into sensationalism.

  
  I think Veyyil didn't come in the 90s. Yes. I am an adult. What kind of change it requires to enjoy such films ? If I am an adult, should I have to appreciate the rawness in 3 x X films. Toilet level comedies kooda raw thaan. *Asingathukkum", *etharthathukkum* tamil cinema la evvalavu diff nnu enakku therla. I still feel that Ameer / Bala are into sensationalism. (PithaMagan & Paruthiveeran). How do you rate nativity in films ? may I know
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 6:47:52 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: I like violent movies in english but when it comes to tamil I dont accept them... I am a big fan of the SAW series and at times I had thot why dont directors in tamil make movies like this... But somehow when I see it on screen in Tamil movies I dont like it.. I myself dont have an answer for it... I was about to ask this question in general here

  
  
  Not wanting to open their own cupboard, the skeletons could ruin their mattress. Moreover, there's a detachment that cuts across classes. That's why the twists in Nanda/Pithamagan would appear worse than Sethu, the latter is essentially bourgeoisie, and to my mind, it's the only Bala film which had a "twist" after "twist" (in a more manipulative & cinematic way), the other two films were about underclas in unique situations/positions, the narrative doesn't take the audience for a cheap ride/thrill - this is precisely where Bala handles with care. Sometimes a very foreseeable cruelty of life is given a stepmotherly treatment by our fellow hubbers - that the writer(who sketched them in the first place) is blamed to be manipulative regardless of how he has crafted it.
  
  And, I would never know why Kaadhal escapes(I like the film myself), one could make it sound worse. Perhaps because it's a more relatable Intercast love story, with all desirable/easier tropes of manipulation! Should a film always have flimsiness of the likes of Gautam menon? Or shoddy in pretense of grandeur like Shankar? Or, the irregularity and naivety in Selva raghavan's? Or, trying to ape reality, and boring them like Thankar bachchan? (Indha madhiri pala kostins-lam varudhu ) Personally, I like Bala's darker themes as much as Mani Ratnam's optimism! Who is to say that he shouldn't render the downtrodden (socially, and psychologically - though I've never appreciated Chiththan's characterization, and still stand by it) of our time, place and classes? If someone says it didn't work for me, fine. But comparing to crass like Perarasu, and um, mentioning him with the likes of Ameer, Gautam menon, VV, etc is too much...three much
  
  And, none of the Bala films has contrived the audience, as much as Paruthiveeran, or even Kalloori in recent times - the "twists" were manipulative and uncalled for - the film themselves weren't rewarding in any case. (btw I've never had an issue with the depiction of violence, rape, gore, etc. Once again, our city crowd would love Sin city/300, not Pithamagan,etc It's too Hip ya )
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 7:20:24 2008.

  thilak4life,
  
  

  Quote:

  Moreover, there's a detachment that cuts across classes. That's why the twists in Nanda/Pithamagan would appear worse than Sethu, the latter is essentially bourgeoisie, and to my mind, it's the only Bala film which had a "twist" after "twist" (in a more manipulative & cinematic way), the other two films were about underclas in unique situations/positions, the narrative doesn't take the audience for a cheap ride/thrill - this is precisely where Bala handles with care.

  
  
  May I know what do you mean by "cinematic + manipulative" Am I missing something here ? What kind of THRILL one would get when surya dances with Simran.. Or simran dancing with Surya. Is that what we call as *cinematic + Manipulative* that cuts across the elite from the middle class. Again, What kind of difference is there when the same is handled by Selvaragavan in a film like 7G ? A dance like "January maadham" / "Neruppu koothadikkuthu" that cuts across classes. The lover dies in an accident and the guy lives in his own world with her. A kind of love pshycho. That is also "cinematic + Manipulative" .. Correct me if am wrong or sound bourgeoisie. so, what kind of difference it makes for a person like Selva and Bala...
  
  

  Quote:

  Sometimes a very foreseeable cruelty of life is given a stepmotherly treatment by our fellow hubbers - that the writer(who sketched them in the first place) is blamed to be manipulative regardless of how he has crafted it.

  
  We aren't against the cruelties that are portrayed AS IT IS if not in the same way they are taking place. Should we have to portray romance in terms of raw sucking and -u-c-k-ing as well or more so in the level of an elite audience with everything wrapped under a mattress ?
  
  

  Quote:

  And, I would never know why Kaadhal escapes(I like the film myself), one could make it sound worse. Perhaps because it's a more relatable Intercast love story, with all desirable/easier tropes of manipulation! Should a film always have flimsiness of the likes of Gautam menon? Or shoddy in pretense of grandeur like Shankar? Or, the irregularity and naivety in Selva raghavan's? Or, trying to ape reality, and boring them like Thankar bachchan? (Indha madhiri pala kostins-lam varudhu )

  
  AFAIK, The only GM films that was FLIMSY a lot was Minnalae. Yet, it was enjoyable for the entertainment. Other movies from him also belong to semi- bala case. He draws a line in the right place.
  Coming to Selva and Bala, what kind of diff it makes b/w a character like Kokki kumar (in the second half of PP) and Sithan in Pithamagan. Both are same. But kokki kumar in the first half.. His role wasn't completely irregular or imaginary character like sithan.
  
  

  Quote:

  Personally, I like Bala's darker themes as much as Mani Ratnam's optimism! But comparing to crass like Perarasu, and um, mentioning him with the likes of Ameer, Gautam menon, VV, etc is too much...three much

  
  I was stressing on "I like this narration", "It was meant to be and I shouldn't find reasons for the same" etc.. If that is the case, A MASALA HERO WINNING OVER 30 ODD should be viewed in the same angle directors term that as "commercial elements". I don't see much diff in these two things I never compared him with Perarasu. But was stressing the same thing that you refer to city crowd enjoying 300, village crowd enjoying 9 Rs nottu & elite crowd defending pithamagan
  
  

  Quote:

  And, none of the Bala films has contrived the audience, as much as Paruthiveeran, or even Kalloori in recent times - the "twists" were manipulative and uncalled for - the film themselves weren't rewarding in any case. (btw I've never had an issue with the depiction of violence, rape, gore, etc. Once again, our city crowd would love Sin city/300, not Pithamagan,etc It's too Hip ya )

  
  Pithamagan did it. Few manipulate it in the end. Bala manipulates it in the middle. That is the difference. If he crafts it like he wants, then naan kadavul would have got released billion years before.
  The same question I ask : Why the elite crowd bashes a film like 300 compared to Pithamagan or Sithan character vs 300 guys
  
  

• From: dinesh13284 on Mon Feb 11 8:13:47 2008.

  I heard that in Naan Kadavul movie , Aarya eats "Nara maamisam". Is it true?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 8:44:27 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  May I know what do you mean by "cinematic + manipulative" Am I missing something here ? What kind of THRILL one would get when surya dances with Simran.. Or simran dancing with Surya. Is that what we call as *cinematic + Manipulative* that cuts across the elite from the middle class. Again, What kind of difference is there when the same is handled by Selvaragavan in a film like 7G ? A dance like "January maadham" / "Neruppu koothadikkuthu" that cuts across classes. The lover dies in an accident and the guy lives in his own world with her. A kind of love pshycho. That is also "cinematic + Manipulative" .. Correct me if am wrong or sound bourgeoisie. so, what kind of difference it makes for a person like Selva and Bala...

  
  
  
  First, I wasn't talking of songs, comedy, tracks etc. It was with respect to "twists" that CR had hinted in an earlier post. To me, "Sethu" had more of the twists that came out of nowhere, thus it's more cinematic and manipulative than the other two films, which were more uniform. Such "twists" are accepted more for the relatable love theme, while the elitist/middle class crowd wouldn't like a Pithamagan/Nanda for its narrative, where they have differences with characterizations. (btw, I wasn't referring you per se, I'm just saying from what I had gathered from different perceptions)
  
  

  Quote:

  Quote: Sometimes a very foreseeable cruelty of life is given a stepmotherly treatment by our fellow hubbers - that the writer(who sketched them in the first place) is blamed to be manipulative regardless of how he has crafted it. We aren't against the cruelties that are portrayed AS IT IS if not in the same way they are taking place. Should we have to portray romance in terms of raw sucking and -u-c-k-ing as well or more so in the level of an elite audience with everything wrapped under a mattress ?

  
  
  I don't get what you're pointing at. I guess you're referring Bala's portrayal of "Cruelty of life" in same vein as sex being explicitly shown? That's a farfetched analogy in any case. I don't see the need to defend the "repugnance" when a Siththan is shown in a bad plight (but the director doesn't make a meal of his condition), Nanda's mother and her indifference to her son is again repugnant. But the characterizations are sketched uniformly (no wishy-washy-ness) by the director. To put it simply, he doesn't define a character A, who behaves like B or at times, C - it's rather coherent, and understandably so. But that's in no comparison to the irregularity and confusion of 7/G, Kadhal kondein, etc - not to forget the "angel-like" sequences of Sonia Agarwal,etc - they are far more naive, and exploiting. As I had said, Bala's films are given stepmotherly treatment for no reason, while repeatedly highlighting their indifferences to push up the badly-made/irregular films (and their directors) high.
  
  

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  Quote: And, I would never know why Kaadhal escapes(I like the film myself), one could make it sound worse. Perhaps because it's a more relatable Intercast love story, with all desirable/easier tropes of manipulation! Should a film always have flimsiness of the likes of Gautam menon? Or shoddy in pretense of grandeur like Shankar? Or, the irregularity and naivety in Selva raghavan's? Or, trying to ape reality, and boring them like Thankar bachchan? (Indha madhiri pala kostins-lam varudhu ) AFAIK, The only GM films that was FLIMSY a lot was Minnalae. Yet, it was enjoyable for the entertainment. Other movies from him also belong to semi- bala case. He draws a line in the right place. Coming to Selva and Bala, what kind of diff it makes b/w a character like Kokki kumar (in the second half of PP) and Sithan in Pithamagan. Both are same. But kokki kumar in the first half.. His role wasn't completely irregular or imaginary character like sithan.

  
  One might relate to Kokki's characterization than Siththan, even I did. But it's not simply because Siththan is imaginary, that it should be ruled out. Siththan is a man-animal, and it stays that way, not confusing around like KK's, sometimes you get the feeling that Kokki has a MPD. Contrast that against the skill to bring out Siththan's compassion in Pithamagan, far far better. Pudhupettai is hazy with its script the whole of the final third, while Pithamagan is taut and complete. Ah, I sound like I didn't like Pudhupettai
  
  

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  I was stressing on "I like this narration", "It was meant to be and I shouldn't find reasons for the same" etc..

  
  
  
  They are two different statements. I made the first one, and I did say Bala is creative with his characterizations than merely aping realism - True I did. But I didn't say one shouldn't find reasons, etcetra about the characters, and their situations. I just said people neglect the whole film if they don't relate to a character, even if the film was handled uniformly. So, I don't know who you're referring here, Selva.
  
  Now back to my statement, yes, I've always liked Bala's narrative. It takes me to his milieu (as I said Rameshwaram to Ganja thottam), and unravels his characters.
  
  

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  If that is the case, A MASALA HERO WINNING OVER 30 ODD should be viewed in the same angle directors term that as "commercial elements". I don't see much diff in these two things

  
  
  I don't get it. You talk about the judgmentality exhibited by Bala with his Siththan characterization, at least here, he 's a man-animal, who's an anomaly marked by violent physical lashouts. Some say it's an insensitive characterization, but not the laziness, and not being judgmental. The same couldn't be said of our overman heroes, which starts with idolizing the star, and uses all the routine glorification (all in pretense of a "character"), exactly the reverse of the "cold/inhumane" Siththan. I don't see them being placed in the same plane. I guess you're hinting at the "freedom" of directors in his "imaginary" characters - which is granted. But the creativity, and judgmentality matters. While Siththan came off as a fictional though problematic, the masala man came off as corny, cliched, and predictable to add to it. And, no righteousness, and ethics BS.
  
  

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  I never compared him with Perarasu. But was stressing the same thing that you refer to city crowd enjoying 300, village crowd enjoying 9 Rs nottu & elite crowd defending pithamagan

  
  
  I haven't seen the elite crowd defending Pithamagan, Nevaire. Anyway, I was hitting sarcastically at our hypocrisy in accepting violence factor in western films, and not our own. Same with nudity, kissing, etc.
  
  

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  Few manipulate it in the end. Bala manipulates it in the middle. That is the difference.

  
  
  Are you referring the songs, comedy tracks again? That is not the current point of discourse. We're talking about the film as such. By any chance, you refer the way Bala "starts" with a manipulation, like say, Siththan's character?
  
  

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  If he crafts it like he wants, then naan kadavul would have got released billion years before.

  
  
  Well, he's too reluctant, and that's why it gets delayed. His sadistic treatment of cast, and crew has lashed back.
  
  

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  The same question I ask : Why the elite crowd bashes a film like 300 compared to Pithamagan or Sithan character vs 300 guys

  
  
  Elite crowd laavvvvv 300. Only a minority of crowd defend/like Pithamagan in the cyber world. they could hardly be called "elite", and the film is anything but that. They rather could be termed "masochistic" if they liked the film for its poignance. Or, perhaps they just liked the seamless narrative which offers them a rewarding experience. for starters, the blogs would be the place to estimate the percentage. As a fan, I know the respect he garners. He's underrated for sure...
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 9:15:06 2008.

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  First, I wasn't talking of songs, comedy, tracks etc. It was with respect to "twists" that CR had hinted in an earlier post. To me, "Sethu" had more of the twists that came out of nowhere, thus it's more cinematic and manipulative than the other two films,

  
  
  Could you please explain more on the twists in Sethu ? AFAIK, Sethu had less twists compared to nandha or Pithamagan (First time viewing). The primary twist is sethu sent to the asylum on two occasions. (one in the middle and the other at the end). This I would term as a twist. I am not sure whether sethu rescuing the girl's sister etc will come under these kind of twists.
  
  

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  I don't see the need to defend the "repugnance" when a Siththan is shown in a bad plight (but the director doesn't make a meal of his condition), Nanda's mother and her indifference to her son is again repugnant.

  
  You are right. It is *repugnant*. A totally irrelevant one. the adjective fits well to SJS films too. He also creates artificial characters that live like a child in the day and man in the night. Didn't we criticize the same ? I don't know why I should view both these things seperately
  
  

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  To put it simply, he doesn't define a character A, who behaves like B or at times, C - it's rather coherent, and understandably so

  
  Is it the reason for Sithan (A man like animal) dancing along with Simran while reacting sharply to laila. Sangeetha too likes Surya. if we can accept a man-animal sithan sharp reaction to laila - surya relationship, I am not sure why he shouldn't do it for Karunas, Manobala etc It is rather vague and the character does transform in the midway a lot unlike Kokki kumar whose life changes as he GROWS. Again, reaction from Nandha's mother for several sequences. They were totally confusing and the flaw with bala's characterisation (atleast for me) is the total confusion that surrounds his characters. They are neither complete nor empty. I really don't know whether a mother like her will remain like that in all the situations.
  
  

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  even I did. But it's not simply because Siththan is imaginary, that it should be ruled out. Siththan is a man-animal, and it stays that way, not confusing around like KK's, sometimes you get the feeling that Kokki has a MPD

  
  As I said, Kokki's character evolves over time. I didn't like dhanush in that role .. esp the second half. That doesn't mean the character wasn't complete. It is all about "Survivial of the fittest". Something that you find with people living in slums and those who go against the rich or the society, by living their own way of life. -u-cking prostitutes and living with them. Taking away friend's sister who is already engaged. This is atleast something that we can relate to and understand the reasons behind the transformation. But character like sithan and nanda's mother. They are neither complete in their behavior nor clear. It is just that the creator takes the liberty of artificial characters in his movies and just makes everyone believe the same. Not sure whether the larger than life image erected out of heroes in mass movies are lesser than these roles
  
  

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  They are two different statements. I made the first one, and I did say Bala is creative with his characterizations than merely aping realism - True I did. But I didn't say one shouldn't find reasons, etcetra about the characters, and their situations.

  
  hmm. I thought I was making that as a general statement if not something that is against U Narration alone is not a movie. If that is the case BagyaRaj is a way better director than Bala (I think you don't like BagyaRaj). not everyone like narration alone. Few things ought to be given a reason. Otherwise, I can create artificial characters that can save the world through their acts. I don't think it fits well here
  
  

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  I haven't seen the elite crowd defending Pithamagan, Nevaire. Anyway, I was hitting sarcastically at our hypocrisy in accepting violence factor in western films, and not our own. Same with nudity, kissing, etc.

  
  The *elite crowd* here I referred to - People who just appreciate movies for the lack of few things. Point is simple. We are against *repugnant* created through a set of artificial characters. Be it SJS or 300 director.
  
  

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  By any chance, you refer the way Bala "starts" with a manipulation, like say, Siththan's character?

  
  Yes. I refer to this only. Be it Nandha's mother or Sithan. He starts this and he wants the things to be like that. Can't he create normal characters and portray them well like he did in Sethu ? Ain't this a manipulation. Again, comparing this to SJS (NEW), what is the difference ?
  
  

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  As a fan, I know the respect he garners. He's underrated for sure...

  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 11 9:17:13 2008.

  Thilak and Selva,
  
  inthaLavu lengthy post paNNuRa aLavukku office'la time kedekkuthA ? Feeling so jealous
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Mon Feb 11 9:20:48 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  Thilak and Selva, inthaLavu lengthy post paNNuRa aLavukku office'la time kedekkuthA ? Feeling so jealous

  
  
  Time irukku. But Kai valikkuthu romba..
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Mon Feb 11 12:54:15 2008.

  Long discussion.
  This discussion has been raging on ever since Pithamagan.
  Mani fans like Lazygeek have been at it and have not stopped ever since.
  This has been carried on in PFC too. Here are some compiled links
  Post 1 on Bala
  My post on Bala in PFC
  
  To reiterate,
  there are always film makers who make films just because it is their profession. They have other identities and they are complete even without making films. Some approach it with a business like efficiency. They are able to get hold of a theme,subject make movies and then move on.
  But for some film making is a form of self expression. It is their only way of expressing themselves.
  They find their identity only there. The speak and get heard only in films. Bala is type-2. It is no wonder that people either like his work or dislike them. I guess that is a good sign. more so because he doesn't sugar coat a theme like "Bombay" with a "humma humma" or "kuchi kuchi raakamma". If he makes a movie on that it will be in your face tight slap. He makes his heroes do morbid things. but sometimes dont we feel like going and biting someone's neck for the horrific things they have done. What is stopping you and me - just our notion of civility and a civility "Sithan" has never learnt. so he kills the villain by biting his neck. Offcourse it is a dichotomy when someone is ready to be floored by slicing the top of head like a Kill Bill or having bullets through someone's head in a Satya or Departed. just that they can't stand the sight of a Bala movie violence and say it is all morbid. If one looks around one would appreciate the fact that life is always morbid and death is the sword of Damocles sure to strike any moment and life is spent happy by just forgetting it. Bala's movies chronicle this aspect and the thing about death is therefore a constant factor in his movies. If someone has seen so much of gloom in his life and finds movies the right medium for expressing it, I find it surprising that people who cry and lament for good movies in every post , ridiculing directors like Perarasu must really spew fire on Bala's movies. Bala makes good movies period. his movies could probably be better . go ask Kamal or Mani - even they would say that about their best works. If it is just the content that you cannot accept then, it is not the fault of Bala, but something intrinsic in you the viewer. It would be better to wait for the movie and criticize the shortcomings instead of picking up a content in the movie that you dont accept to begin with and blow horns endlessly creating noise.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:27:08 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Could you please explain more on the twists in Sethu ? AFAIK, Sethu had less twists compared to nandha or Pithamagan (First time viewing). The primary twist is sethu sent to the asylum on two occasions. (one in the middle and the other at the end). This I would term as a twist. I am not sure whether sethu rescuing the girl's sister etc will come under these kind of twists.

  
  Exactly, The protagonist's sanity (how he looses it is another) is conveniently flipflopped for its own good. To my mind, it's a plain cinematic "twist" than his other films. Far more manipulative.
  
  

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  Quote: I don't see the need to defend the "repugnance" when a Siththan is shown in a bad plight (but the director doesn't make a meal of his condition), Nanda's mother and her indifference to her son is again repugnant. You are right. It is *repugnant*. A totally irrelevant one. the adjective fits well to SJS films too. He also creates artificial characters that live like a child in the day and man in the night. Didn't we criticize the same ? I don't know why I should view both these things seperately

  
  I'm not saying one should stay out of criticising him. But unlike SJS, who created the character for his pleasure, and often poorly conceived, Bala's character is mcuh much better. And, come on, SJS'lam kondu varradhu over!! They are a world apart.
  
  

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  Is it the reason for Sithan (A man like animal) dancing along with Simran while reacting sharply to laila. Sangeetha too likes Surya. if we can accept a man-animal sithan sharp reaction to laila - surya relationship, I am not sure why he shouldn't do it for Karunas, Manobala etc

  
  
  Siththan tries to imitates Sakthi in the dance. He also sees Sakthi-Laila relationship, he's possessive of Sakthi, but slowly understands the "caring". That's why he immediately gets Gomathy a dress, and slowly over the film, begins to make sense of it all, though very basic for us, it's all complicated for him. Moreover, He also has a delicate relation with Sakthi. To Siththan, Sakthi isn't just a friend, the film's title "Pithamagan", defines it beautifully. Surely no "normal" undertaker would have such an intense and passionate liking for a conman. This whole angle was brilliantly done. Btw, Do you mean the "sharp reaction" to Laila in the song, where when Surya slaps on Siththan's back, he jaws back? Thats his instinctive reaction, wasn't it . He also exposes his compassion, that's where you recognize the man in him. We don't see him transform overnight, that's why I call it "man-animal", he's an Anomoly, slowly taming to the world. Surely, he isn't a one-dimension, I'd rather call him just another animal if thats the case.
  
  

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  It is rather vague and the character does transform in the midway a lot unlike Kokki kumar whose life changes as he GROWS.

  
  
  Oh, as I had said, Siththan doesn't transform to a complete man overnight, does he? The character's compassion is unravelled slowly by the director. But Kokki kumar grows, eludes, and finally kids himself, he's not in full control of himself, well he whines in his prison cell (That's why I had joked it to be like MPD) It's more transforming, and irregular with his psychology taking a ride, that's complete opposite of what Siththan is, who doesn't go for a cinematic "recovery".
  
  

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  Again, reaction from Nandha's mother for several sequences. They were totally confusing and the flaw with bala's characterisation (atleast for me) is the total confusion that surrounds his characters. They are neither complete nor empty. I really don't know whether a mother like her will remain like that in all the situations.

  
  
  You rightly say that she's stubborn in all situations. That's why I say his characterization is uniform. Bala just puts up the character, and no sudden "thiruthifying" measures. However, I did find that part repugnant, and badly acted. But again, I wouldn't knock it all down just for that. The functioning of the mother helped the film.
  
  

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  As I said, Kokki's character evolves over time. I didn't like dhanush in that role .. esp the second half. That doesn't mean the character wasn't complete. It is all about "Survivial of the fittest". Something that you find with people living in slums and those who go against the rich or the society, by living their own way of life. -u-cking prostitutes and living with them. Taking away friend's sister who is already engaged. This is atleast something that we can relate to and understand the reasons behind the transformation. But character like sithan and nanda's mother. They are neither complete in their behavior nor clear. It is just that the creator takes the liberty of artificial characters in his movies and just makes everyone believe the same. Not sure whether the larger than life image erected out of heroes in mass movies are lesser than these roles

  
  
  I've said the same about Kokki in another thread. Yes, the whole slum dweller surviving, and what the power does to his head. But, kokki's confused ramblings (which is what we see as a narrative), etcetra did come off jarring. Unlike Bala, who pretty much knows Siththan or Nanda's mother being what they are. It works for some, or it doesn't work. Though I have issues with both the characters, I wouldn't put it down completely, and I wouldn't necessarily reduce the whole film's worth, considering how painstakingly Bala sketches the film. This is precisely the reason why I don't understand people putting down Mani for his characters, dialogue delivery, item numbers, etc - everything labeled as "artificial" - nice and easy term. To me though, I see some of this as a recurrent motif, and um, a "baggage" that the director brings. Surely Bala's is much more refined than Selva's, Gautam's, SJS's, and others baggage (SJS for example, doesn't have much in any case), So, just using it to put down Bala is just unacceptable.
  
  

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  Narration alone is not a movie. If that is the case BagyaRaj is a way better director than Bala (I think you don't like BagyaRaj).

  
  
  I like Bhagyaraj And, no, I think Bala is in more control of his narrative than Bhagyaraj, even if not to bring the eclectic narrative, or the cinematography, framing, to editing. Btw I wouldn't normally bring him to compare with Bala, who still has a long way to go. Ironically, I have a major gourse with Bhagyaraj's badly executed climax, and jammed-up narratives. In spite of all the shortcomings, I do see him as an important filmmaker for his time, and would take him more seriously than just as an entertainer. To me, KB, BR, and Bhagyaraj are equally interesting filmmakers.
  
  

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  not everyone like narration alone. Few things ought to be given a reason. Otherwise, I can create artificial characters that can save the world through their acts. I don't think it fits well here

  
  
  

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  Quote: By any chance, you refer the way Bala "starts" with a manipulation, like say, Siththan's character? Yes. I refer to this only. Be it Nandha's mother or Sithan. He starts this and he wants the things to be like that. Can't he create normal characters and portray them well like he did in Sethu ? Ain't this a manipulation. Again, comparing this to SJS (NEW), what is the difference ?

  
  
  Come on Selva, surely Bala's films are far better than SJS's, routine overman heroism, etc. I don't know why you're being utterly reductive of his worth because two characters didn't work for you.. Bala in spite of not making a meal out of Siththan's character is still criticized. here are many other vital merits of his filmmaking that's ignored, even if you didn't like the characterizations. I couldn't imagine how he's compared with likes of Selva Raghavan, who has just made a film (Pudhupettai) that's worth mentioning against Bala's oeuvre. Moreover, Bala's films grow on you, while Selva's films underwhelm in revisits.
  
  

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  Quote: I haven't seen the elite crowd defending Pithamagan, Nevaire. Anyway, I was hitting sarcastically at our hypocrisy in accepting violence factor in western films, and not our own. Same with nudity, kissing, etc. The *elite crowd* here I referred to - People who just appreciate movies for the lack of few things. Point is simple. We are against *repugnant* created through a set of artificial characters. Be it SJS or 300 director.

  
  
  Adhe Adhe...Adhe thaan!!! All I'm saying is "look at the larger picture" than just few shortcomings.
  
  Btw, 300 is not just about few artificial characters, it's a disgracefully racist film, with far worse (pro-western) implications. It has ethnical discrimination written all over it.
  
  SJS's film isn't just about couple of "imaginary" characterizations thats artificial, it's shoddy from start to finish. Like Ajith would say, he's preverted, adequate to make a perverted teen comedies. Come on, you watch Tom hanks sketch his character in "Big", then you watch SJS playing with Simran, Kiran, etc in name of a characterization.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:28:59 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Roshan wrote: Thilak and Selva, inthaLavu lengthy post paNNuRa aLavukku office'la time kedekkuthA ? Feeling so jealous Time irukku. But Kai valikkuthu romba..

  
  
  Time kedaichadhu. I hub less throughtout the day (comparatively), but when I get time, I try to chip in.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 11 13:47:54 2008.

  Jaiganesh,
  
  Initially, me too hated Bala's films. But it grew on me. Taste differs though. Anyways, regarding this point,
  
  

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  If one looks around one would appreciate the fact that life is always morbid and death is the sword of Damocles sure to strike any moment and life is spent happy by just forgetting it. Bala's movies chronicle this aspect and the thing about death is therefore a constant factor in his movies. If someone has seen so much of gloom in his life and finds movies the right medium for expressing it

  
  
  I'm in the minority who would take violence of any form, and morbidity to any levels - provided the film warrants it, I thought Pithamagan did. But sometimes, explicitly made events does come off as contrived, like say, Paruthiveeran. That it ends up being the USP of the film. You can't defend that by citing the director's self-expression, can you?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Feb 11 14:22:31 2008.

  I think there should be a limit to the length of the posts here
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Mon Feb 11 15:39:37 2008.

  Thilak!
  wrt Paruthi Veeran,
  I would say that there is a director's POV.
  Long have our directors changed the ending of their films and content to suit every om dick and harry's POV (Tom - producer, Dick - distributor and Harry - Theatre exhibitor). Bala and Ameer, their film making styles are so diverse, yet bring some of their thoughts and feelings to the table. It is the kind of energy and conviction that we were used to in KB and Bharathiraaja (something that Bhagyaraaj never had and will never have). Thats something we have not seen on the filmi scene since Hey Ram. Here is my POV , take it kinda attitude.
  
  PV climax makes sense to me if we bear in mind that his life is always doomed as he has made to many enemies and bad friends in a short span, while their enemies might pose a threat to his life, ameer wanted to show that bad company is sure to rob you of your honour no matter how little you are left with. Is he being too judgemental? well yes, why not? It is his thought and he is entitled to that. I am not claiming that PV was the best work, but definitely far better than the run of the mill crap done by leading heroes and start directors.
  
  Bala by the same token makes his movies, even the stoutest of his critics cannot deny the ability he has and his craft and skill. He makes 'his' movies and anyone looking at them from the prism of "movies" alone would be able to easily appreciate how he creates characters and settings that enrich the medium. I have never felt the "tightness" with which he covers a character and presents in an arresting fashion. Sure he could make comedy movies or "action" movies, but I would prefer he continues to make "Bala" movies as there are very few people who make the movies they want to make, in the manner they want to.
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Mon Feb 11 15:52:18 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Bala , Ameer padam nalla illainnu solluradhunaala, naangellam nalla padam-e pakka maattomnnu illa.......some sequences are unnatural and forced into the narrative............somehow, i dont like the "unarchi surandal" concept as well.........they tap the animalistic feelings in u to sell their movie.........i dunno how far its ethical......

  
  
  

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  i find bala/ameer movies to be repulsive or jarring, u may find maniratnam movies to be jarring..... ......but to compare bala with perarasu in mask of opinion is blasphemy.......... selva, unna pazhi vaanga vida matten

  
  
  Ohh...god....ameer directed 3 movies only....in 3 movies, only one movie has bala style ending....that also a real story.....PV is kind of realistic story( I dont see that much realism in some other village stories in the recent times)....Other than that movie, He has given some different kind of movies....You added ameer in the bala catagory....... I am damn sure that ammer will come up with some other different kind of story which will shock you......
  
  in all of bala's movies, Bala has some kind of depressed characters...because his life style is like that.... If you study his history in AV, you could have understood his life style.... That is different world....I also dont like nandha and PM much....but i believe those kind of characters are there in real life.....
  
  KT is also in that catagory......I love KT.....that is close to my heart......because that shows one man's loneliness, sad, priorities, love, affection, concerns about our society(am s/w person...that is diff story) and etc.....There are people like prabhakar.....I have seen that kind of people in real time.......But we can not predict directors in one movie....
  
  I strongly believe ameer is better than bala in terms of variety and presentation..........But bala is much better than some crap masala directors..............Bala is capable of handling debatable concepts.....
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 22:59:30 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  *Asingathukkum", *etharthathukkum* tamil cinema la evvalavu diff nnu enakku therla.

  
  
  Annan thangachinnu sollikittu porvaikkuLLa pugunthukittu irattai artham pesuna athu *Asingam* ,But in Tamil cinema that can be called 'Kudumpathodu Paarkka vendiya padam
  
  Velaikku pora purushan pontattikku oru kiss koduthuttu poratha kaatuna enakku athu *Ethaartham* ,But in Tamil cinema it is *Aabaasam* EKISelva
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 11 23:28:04 2008.

  I concur with Thilak about Sethu. I've always thought of it to be a very noticeably manipulative film. Bala sandwiches two different films in the two halves as one. In fact, 7/G Rainbow very much reminded me of Sethu as it drew close to its end. It is thanks to Bala's narrative finesse and sensitivity towards the characters that it doesn't stick out as badly as it should have. Also, the angles of mysticism, foreboding of what's in store in the latter half of the story early on in (the Maheshwari character playing the mad woman at the other end of spectrum, for example) et al. add much to the film.
  
  Well, what's really contrived in Nandhaa? Nandhaa is very underrated, I think it's quite superb, actually. The tragedy of a patricide (truly dealing with an Oedipal situation without just throwing the word around) brought out poignantly. That Maheshwari (the mother) doesn't pay heed to all her son's attempts to reconcile is often pointed out (I'd never understand what "I didn't like that character" would mean when offered as a criticism on the film!) as a flaw, but I think it's handled so well. Now, the mother in that film can't be in usual mother-son terms with her son, can she? Her son killed his own father, her husband. Much worse as she might think he is, his being there did mean quite a lot to her and kept her status quo in a good shape. And, here comes his son -- more importantly, her son -- who finishes his story, her story too to an extent, and asks for his mother's hand. What Nandhaa doesn't find in his mother, he finds in Periyavar, who becomes his surrogate father of sorts. What the film indeed miss in comparison to Bala's other two films was the magic of Raaja. Yuvan did a great job, of course, but it's not hard to see how his score pales in comparison to what Raaja does -- usually, even -- in his scores, and particularly in Sethu and Pithamagan.
  
  Regarding Pithamagan, I'd say the story of the ganja landlord and Siththan (and hence Sakthi) is more of a MacGuffin to explore the central theme of the film. It's simplistically handled alright -- we know by interval that the villain has his eye on Sakthi, but the payoff (for taking the MacGuffin, that is) is superb to say the least. Again, what really are the twists that Bala contrives in the film? Surya's death is central for the film. It sets up the culmination of the film. That kept aside, are there any contrivances forced in to further the film's theme or abruptly accentuate the viewer's feelings about the film (like in, say, Paruththiveeran, that being the non-Bala film that's often referred to in this discussion)?
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Feb 11 23:29:54 2008.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: *Asingathukkum", *etharthathukkum* tamil cinema la evvalavu diff nnu enakku therla. Annan thangachinnu sollikittu porvaikkuLLa pugunthukittu irattai artham pesuna athu *Asingam* ,But in Tamil cinema that can be called 'Kudumpathodu Paarkka vendiya padam Velaikku pora purushan pontattikku oru kiss koduthuttu poratha kaatuna enakku athu *Ethaartham* ,But in Tamil cinema it is *Aabaasam* EKISelva

  
  
  I dont like both... Chera overdoes this thing a bit.. it doesnt seem to be natural for Cheran...
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 11 23:39:14 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Chera overdoes this thing a bit.. it doesnt seem to be natural for Cheran...

  
  
  I didn't refer Cheran here ..No idea which movie you are refering ..I havn't seen pirivom santhippom..
  
  Btw, Cheran pannunathu pidikkalinna avarukku nadikka theriyallainnu vachukkalam ..But Purushan pondattiku muththam kodukkurathu *Aaapaasam* kidayathu ..Kuruthipunal-la kamal sollura maathiri "Unga appan ammavukku muththam kodukkuraan" and "Naama solli kodukkallinna television kaththukodukkum".
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 11 23:48:01 2008.

  vasanth2006 wrote:

  Ohh...god....ameer directed 3 movies only....in 3 movies, only one movie has bala style ending....that also a real story.....PV is kind of realistic story( I dont see that much realism in some other village stories in the recent times)....Other than that movie, He has given some different kind of movies....You added ameer in the bala catagory....... I am damn sure that ammer will come up with some other different kind of story which will shock you......

  
  Vasanth,
  Though I don't really get what a "bala style ending" is, I presume (correct me if I'm wrong) you're referring to Paruththiveeran for it had a tragic ending. Paruththiveeran, I thought, borrowed a lot from Virumaandi actually. Just that the inspiration was so hollow.
  It was Raam that was Bala-wannabe big time. The lead character portrayal was straight out of Pithamagan ('adadA adadA' becomes 'manidhan solginRa niyAyangaL enna' and so on!) but channeled out via Paasamalar with a "oh-wait-there's-one-more-character-in-the-film" ending (which can be safely called as Mounam Pesiyadhe-style ending, I think).
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 11 23:49:58 2008.

  wow Joe, you seem to be a big promoter for kissing in thamizh films.
  
  

  joe wrote:

  "Unga appan ammavukku muththam kodukkuraan"

  yaar paaththaa?
  saththyamaa naa paakkala!
  some things are better off behind the screens....
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Mon Feb 11 23:54:30 2008.

  tamilan kiss panratha paarkka thaanga mudiyaatha pala peru irukaanga.
  
  btw, whats happening here??
  
  i am not interested in reading all these long posts..
  
  when is naan kadavul releasing??
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 11 23:59:27 2008.

  you missed one crucial word...
  

  Devar Magan wrote:

  tamilan kiss panratha paarkka thaanga mudiyaatha pala peru irukaanga.

  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:00:46 2008.

  btw, I am looking forward to NK. Another PM would please me.
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 0:04:15 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  you missed one crucial word... Devar Magan wrote: tamilan kiss panratha paarkka thaanga mudiyaatha pala peru irukaanga.

  oh yea.. sorry. edited..
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:04:58 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  wow Joe, you seem to be a big promoter for kissing in thamizh films. joe wrote: "Unga appan ammavukku muththam kodukkuraan" yaar paaththaa? saththyamaa naa paakkala! some things are better off behind the screens....

  
  
  NOV,
  Ofcourse ,There are many things better off behind screens ..I know it ..In the name of 'ethartham' ,we cannot show entire first night ..
  
  I am not promoting kissing and I am talking about married couple kissing with true love not some teenagers kissing while rooling ..But when focusing certain parts of women deliberately , etharthame illatha asingamana movements can be taken very normally ,why kissing alone taken as Aapaasam ?
  
  what do you mean by 'Yaaru paartha?..I am talking about the scene from kuruthipunal ..while kamal kissing his wife gowthami ,their son happened to see it and gowthami wanted to hide ..kamal said to his son "athu onnum illada ..unga appan unga ammavukku muththam kodukkuran" and said to gowthami "Naama solli kodukkalinna TV kathu kodukkum " ,in the sense it is better parents educate children than children learn from TV and get a wrong idea.
  
  what is your problem in it ?
  
  You want to promote "PorvaikkuLLa double meaning" instead of this?
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:15:47 2008.

  joe wrote:

  what is your problem in it ?

  sometimes, it's good not to take everything personally.
  
  a little humour helps too.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:17:14 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Ofcourse ,There are many things better off behind screens ..I know it ..In the name of 'ethartham' ,we cannot show entire first night ..

  
  yEn? adhuvum nadakkuRathu dhaanE
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:19:53 2008.

  thappilla! edhuvume thappila!
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:29:17 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  That kept aside, are there any contrivances forced in to further the film's theme or abruptly accentuate the viewer's feelings about the film (like in, say, Paruththiveeran, that being the non-Bala film that's often referred to in this discussion)?

  
  I've said this a lot of times before. innoru thadava sollidren. The Sithan character itself is fundamentally unacceptable. To Bala, everything else revolves around that in the film. Actually if i get that mental block off my mind, i have to admit i find the film immensely likeable.
  
  Secondly, how the hell can one stand watching Layla (both the actress(?) and the character)
  
  Thirdly, the Sangeetha - Sithan "relationship" (or whatever little that threatens to take off)...
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:31:33 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: what is your problem in it ? sometimes, it's good not to take everything personally. a little humour helps too.

  
  
  Exactly same to you
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 0:32:43 2008.

  Intha Page startingla Kiss panratha pathi irukuthu.
  
  Did i miss anything
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:33:52 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  joe wrote: Ofcourse ,There are many things better off behind screens ..I know it ..In the name of 'ethartham' ,we cannot show entire first night .. yEn? adhuvum nadakkuRathu dhaanE

  
  
  Oh! ok
  
  As NOV said ,Let me have some humour
  
  Nerd,
  Entire first night-yaum kaatina 8 hours padam edukkanum ..athaan kaaturathilla..Pothuma
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:37:34 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Oh! ok As NOV said ,Let me have some humour Nerd, Entire first night-yaum kaatina 8 hours padam edukkanum ..athaan kaaturathilla..Pothuma

  
  yErkanavE kAtrAingaLE. "Bed song", "rain song" - all midnight masala stuff
  [adhellaam pappom, paatukku etha madhiri movers and shakers panna adha awardu kuduthu vara verppom... kiss panradhellam paakka mattom. asingam! kashakkum, komattum!]
  
  On a serious note, thapilla! edhuvume thappilla! Mind it
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:39:55 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  yErkanavE kAtrAingaLE. "Bed song", "rain song" - all midnight masala stuff [adhellaam pappom, paatukku etha madhiri movers and shakers panna adha awardu kuduthu vara verppom... kiss panradhellam paakka mattom. asingam! kashakkum, komattum!]

  
  
  IllavaLavu theLiva enakku solla theriyalla.. Uthavikku Nanri
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:43:07 2008.

  just like how some ajith fans want Bala to fail, some kamal fans too always rise up to defend kissing in tamil films.
  
  enna poruththam namakkul indha poruththam.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:43:23 2008.

  naanum adhayE dhAn kEkkuREn.. mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. I am not against showing kisses on screen, btw!
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 0:44:24 2008.

  pls dont take my observation offensively. no offence meant at all.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 0:44:39 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  naanum adhayE dhAn kEkkuREn.. mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. I am not against showing kisses on screen, btw!

  
  ada naan dhaan edhuvume thappilla nu sollitrukken
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 0:45:58 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Nerd wrote: naanum adhayE dhAn kEkkuREn.. mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. I am not against showing kisses on screen, btw! ada naan dhaan edhuvume thappilla nu sollitrukken

  
  EKCRI.. adhu ungaLukku illa
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:52:18 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  mutham mattum vENumaam, adhu vENdaamaa.. !

  
  
  Mutham Venumnnu Naan kekkalla
  
  CR sonna mid night masala stuff-lam sagajama irukkum pothu muththam mattum yen Aapasama irukkanum ?..Infact thalai keeLala irukkanum..
  
  Hmm..viLakkam solliye ozhinju ponan Joe
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:54:17 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  just like how some ajith fans want Bala to fail, some kamal fans too always rise up to defend kissing in tamil films. enna poruththam namakkul indha poruththam.

  
  
  NOV,
  Ithai unmaiyile naan comedy-a thaan eduthukitten
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 0:56:56 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Hmm..viLakkam solliye ozhinju ponan Joe

  
  
  
  
  ethu thappu ethu sari ngara vattathukku naan varala. Aana thappa thappillaama thappaama thappikira murayoada senji namakku thappaa padamaa irunthaa intha thapellaam thapae illainnu naan sonna ennai yaarum thappaa eduthukka padaathu.
  
  Let us get back to Naan Kadavul
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 0:58:25 2008.

  Thirumaran,
  Sappaa.. TheLiya vachathukku nanri
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 1:20:00 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  I've said this a lot of times before. innoru thadava sollidren. The Sithan character itself is fundamentally unacceptable. To Bala, everything else revolves around that in the film. Actually if i get that mental block off my mind, i have to admit i find the film immensely likeable.

  
  Why is the character of Siththan fundamentally unacceptable, Bala? Or, do you refer to particular quirks (or gimmicks, if you will) like his having not much dialogue at all in the film?
  I actually wanted to write elaborately (I'm in between a 10-hour wait in Hong Kong airport, you see ) about the way the character of Siththan is actually shown on screen -- how he doesn't speak more than five lines etc., but here's in a gist.
  Such a depiction is fine with me. Bala could have perhaps handled it with more nuance rather than showing it in a direct literal sense, but it is not at all used to drive the film, or contrive the events. Sithtthan is the film's protagonist and it definitely revolves around his condition, not around the fact that he doesn't speak much dialogue or any such gimmick. Have we all not seen an ANdi sitting at the entrance of a temple or some similar place not speaking a word for days together? Siththan's condition is that. It's not as if he doesn't understand what others say or he's retarded, it's just that he has nothing to say to, or connect with, anyone in this world. His livelihood is attuned to something much simpler (and hence the references to animals) -- he eats when he's hungry, he growls when disturbed. Is it not the same Siththan who never seemed to have grasped anything at all when he worked in the Ganja thOttam who burns the full Ganja thOttam towards the end of the film?
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Secondly, how the hell can one stand watching Layla (both the actress(?) and the character)

  
  Ha ha, I think I'm the only one who didn't mind her performance (in the Surya comedy track, of course)! I know, it's all thanks to Bala, but I don't want to sound unreasonably harsh on her. I was really laughing my guts out in some of those scenes.
  The real Laila does stand up in the song sequences. The way she imitates Sakthi in the 'iLangAththu vIsudhE' song for one. Or the way she reacts to Siththan's growl or on seeing Siththan's name tattooed on Sakthi's chest.
  
  

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Thirdly, the Sangeetha - Sithan "relationship" (or whatever little that threatens to take off)...

  
  Why, what's so wrong with it?
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 1:34:37 2008.

  Equanimus, PR, thilak ...
  
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 1:47:15 2008.

  Devar Magan wrote:

  Equanimus, PR, thilak ...

  
  Devar Magan,
  Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.)
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 2:06:08 2008.

  Equanimus,
  nalla paaditrundha oru payyan, oru "Wild Child/Man"-a maarradha othukkave mudiyala. I mean, how and why???? That, to me is extremely contrived.
  
  And about the Sangeetha-Sithan "track", well, what do you think?
  
  Aang Kaan-a? pogum idam edhuvo?
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 2:08:24 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Devar Magan wrote: Equanimus, PR, thilak ... Devar Magan, Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.)

  
  
  well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts..
  
  no offence meant.. continue writing
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 2:55:41 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Equanimus, nalla paaditrundha oru payyan, oru "Wild Child/Man"-a maarradha othukkave mudiyala. I mean, how and why???? That, to me is extremely contrived. And about the Sangeetha-Sithan "track", well, what do you think? Aang Kaan-a? pogum idam edhuvo?

  
  We see him only sing the hymn in the beginning. We see him grow up alone in the song sequence. Not sure if we can call him a nallaa paaditrundha payyan. (He continues to sing the hymn until he quits the job anyway.)
  
  Uh, about Sangeetha-Sithan love story, I thought it was well handled. Sithan keeps revolving around her until Sakthi comes into his life, but he doesn't really seem to be in love with her after that, as she realizes herself. idhukku mEla enna solRadhu'nnu therla, it's time for my flight as well, so consider yourself lucky.
  
  Flying back to thangath thamizh Bangalore.
  
  

  Devar Magan wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Devar Magan wrote: Equanimus, PR, thilak ... Devar Magan, Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.) well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts.. no offence meant.. continue writing

  
  Oh, yes, I did think so, but as far as I see, PR hasn't written a post here, so I didn't quite get what you were trying to say.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 3:02:01 2008.

  ivvaluvu lengthy posts-a?? leave pottu thaan padikkanum pola.....
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:06:39 2008.

  // Exactly, The protagonist's sanity (how he looses it is another) is conveniently flipflopped for its own good. To my mind, it's a plain cinematic "twist" than his other films. Far more manipulative. //
  
  I really don't think so. He could have easily gone to her lady love and explained how he saved her sister's life from prostitution, dowry problems etc. Had he done that, I would have termed it as a *cinematic twist*. I think the *sanity* angle was well handled in Sethu. At the end, he goes back to the ashylum thinking that there is no one for him now. If I am not wrong, Bala or someone else did clarify the reason behind his reaction in the climax. She *dies* much before his arrival. Unfortunately, both of them couldn't share a word or two when he is in asylum. So, everything was clear including the flow.
  
  Unlike Pithamagan where you are just left in a confusion whether sithan has feelings or no feelings.. Whenever bala wants portray him as a person who *feels* he adds that angle and justifies the scene. Then he conveniently forgets it and portrays him as a person with feelings. That is plain and simple. Correct me if I am wrong
  
  // But unlike SJS, who created the character for his pleasure, and often poorly conceived, Bala's character is mcuh much better. And, come on, SJS'lam kondu varradhu over!! They are a world apart. //
  
  Look. Again, I wasn't comparing the two AS IT IS. I have clarified it several times. Both SJS & Perarasu IF SJS can be attributed for creating such a character in NEW for his own pleasure, then how can we apply a diff rule for Bala whose characters just live in their world of own with his own pleasure pattern (Kanja and all) I was referring to the *IMAGINATION / ARTIFICIAL* characters here.
  
  
  // Siththan tries to imitates Sakthi in the dance. He also sees Sakthi-Laila relationship, he's possessive of Sakthi, but slowly understands the "caring". That's why he immediately gets Gomathy a dress, and slowly over the film, begins to make sense of it all, though very basic for us, it's all complicated for him. Moreover, He also has a delicate relation with Sakthi. To Siththan, Sakthi isn't just a friend, the film's title "Pithamagan", defines it beautifully. Surely no "normal" undertaker would have such an intense and passionate liking for a conman. This whole angle was brilliantly done. Btw, Do you mean the "sharp reaction" to Laila in the song, where when Surya slaps on Siththan's back, he jaws back? Thats his instinctive reaction, wasn't it . He also exposes his compassion, that's where you recognize the man in him. We don't see him transform overnight, that's why I call it "man-animal", he's an Anomoly, slowly taming to the world. Surely, he isn't a one-dimension, I'd rather call him just another animal if thats the case. //
  
  This is exactly what I have been telling you while comparing the same with Selvaragavan. Selvaragavan deals with a *normal* character like kathir (An indisciplined rougue) or a ruthless Kokki kumar and builds over it. Bala just uses his *artificial characters* and take an advantage of their own to express his thoughts. At times, he confuses the audience with several inexplainable behaviors and hides under them. That is why many are able to find the flaws in kokki kumar while not able to figure out the same with a man-like guerilla or an abnormal character. What is the diff it makes with hollywood films like Beowulf that introduces you to a lot of demons who give birth to a lot of gory characters while remaining beautiful. Hope you understand what I am referring to
  
  // Oh, as I had said, Siththan doesn't transform to a complete man overnight, does he? //
  Sure he doesn't. But problem is his behavior isn't what you could get a clear idea of. As CR said, the characters reactions to several feelings and then conveniently forgetting the same while beating the policeman or burning him as well.. Don't u think this is much flawed compared to kokki kumar or even 7G kathir ??
  
  // You rightly say that she's stubborn in all situations //
  Again, her character is a semi-sithan character. She hates her son for killing her father & spoiling her life. She doesn't even visit him I am not sure whether I have seen a mother like her. But if she is like that, then why should she behave like that in the climax ? That was pretty much confusing for me atleast. BTW, I like Sethu & Nandha
  
  
  // I've said the same about Kokki in another thread. Yes, the whole slum dweller surviving, and what the power does to his head. But, kokki's confused ramblings (which is what we see as a narrative), etcetra did come off jarring. Unlike Bala, who pretty much knows Siththan or Nanda's mother being what they are. It works for some, or it doesn't work. Though I have issues with both the characters, I wouldn't put it down completely, and I wouldn't necessarily reduce the whole film's worth, considering how painstakingly Bala sketches the film. This is precisely the reason why I don't understand people putting down Mani for his characters, dialogue delivery, item numbers, etc - everything labeled as "artificial" - nice and easy term. To me though, I see some of this as a recurrent motif, and um, a "baggage" that the director brings. Surely Bala's is much more refined than Selva's, Gautam's, SJS's, and others baggage (SJS for example, doesn't have much in any case), So, just using it to put down Bala is just unacceptable. //
  
  I don't see much diff b/w Kokki (in 2nd half) & Sithan. I am not a fan of PP and infact I don't rate it high Not all mani characters are like that.. Atleast in Nayangan, AN, Roja, etc etc. I am referring to the liberty with which Bala escapes by creating a character like Sithan. OTOH, Selva does it through regular rougue like characters that you can easily relate to. Somone who reacts to you cheaply when you enter a slum or enter the lowest level possible to abuse you. Atleast, with selva when he tries to raise above that (like in PP climax) we can conclude it. But with bala's characters, the confusion in the characterisation just makes everyone to assume a reason on their own just like sithan There is not much diff b/w this and SJS living with her lady love in the night and taking classes in the morning.
  
  // And, no, I think Bala is in more control of his narrative than Bhagyaraj, even if not to bring the eclectic narrative, or the cinematography, framing, to editing. //
  Well. I just brought BhagyaRaj to reiterate the fact that plain narration alone is not appreciated. Or atleast everyone will be comfortable with. That is why we have a diff b/w Mahendran, BharathiRaja & BhagyaRaj. The same will go with Bala if we take the diff
  
  // Come on Selva, surely Bala's films are far better than SJS's, routine overman heroism, etc. I don't know why you're being utterly reductive of his worth because two characters didn't work for you //
  As I have been telling, I am just reiterating the same for both the directors. You seem to take it in the other way. It is not just a comparison. But the way the characters ARE. I don't see much diff in that. FYI, I haven't bashed Sethu in Sethu or Deva in Vaali. *Overman Heroism* and that too in SJS films.. . Yaa. May be Ah..Ahh
  
  // Adhe Adhe...Adhe thaan!!! All I'm saying is "look at the larger picture" than just few shortcomings. //
  His films are driven with imaginary characters at times and more confusing pattern. If we eliminate it, how can we have a clear idea on the *larger picture*
  
  // Come on, you watch Tom hanks sketch his character in "Big", then you watch SJS playing with Simran, Kiran, etc in name of a characterization. SJS's film isn't just about couple of "imaginary" characterizations thats artificial, it's shoddy from start to finish//
  I haven't seen BIG. I didn't like NEW as well. I just brought that for the characters comparison. Not all SJS films are imaginary atleast. He had NEW.. just like pithamagan.. Ithula enna shoddy ... start to finish and all
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 3:09:01 2008.

  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Feb 12 3:11:38 2008.

  joe wrote:

  
  
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 12 3:18:14 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  joe wrote:

  
  
  onnum puriyalaiye
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:24:07 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I guess that is a good sign. more so because he doesn't sugar coat a theme like "Bombay" with a "humma humma" or "kuchi kuchi raakamma". If he makes a movie on that it will be in your face tight slap. He makes his heroes do morbid things. but sometimes dont we feel like going and biting someone's neck for the horrific things they have done.

  
  EKSI ! Then what about "Kaana Karunguyilae" in Sethu and Simran dance in Pithamagan. I agree that Bala has edge over Mani in few things. At the same time, ithu konjam diff ah theriyuthu.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Feb 12 3:25:45 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Nerd wrote: joe wrote: onnum puriyalaiye

  
  
  Poi office kku rendu naal leave poattuttu vanthu padinga.. Appuram ellaam puriyum
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:28:25 2008.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: *Asingathukkum", *etharthathukkum* tamil cinema la evvalavu diff nnu enakku therla. Annan thangachinnu sollikittu porvaikkuLLa pugunthukittu irattai artham pesuna athu *Asingam* ,But in Tamil cinema that can be called 'Kudumpathodu Paarkka vendiya padam Velaikku pora purushan pontattikku oru kiss koduthuttu poratha kaatuna enakku athu *Ethaartham* ,But in Tamil cinema it is *Aabaasam* EKISelva

  
  
  Sure. Such films are never appreciated. The directors of those films are never put in the elite league. (ManiRathnam or Bharathi Raja or anyone)
  
  I was referring to blood oozing from the **** and the portrayal of the same AS IT IS. The intensity in the earlier films were felt throught the sequences and events. I can even create that intensity through obscene dialogues and dark portrayal of things. (Just like how they happen in the real world. I was referring to that if not what masala directors add in their films. Atha thaan masalannu solli othukkiduromla.. Here we are speaking about the other category.. correct me if am wrong
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Feb 12 3:31:32 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: Nerd wrote: joe wrote: onnum puriyalaiye Poi office kku rendu naal leave poattuttu vanthu padinga.. Appuram ellaam puriyum

  
  
  sorry..... perumbalum.. periya postgalai naan thavirthuduvaen
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 3:32:39 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Kalyasi wrote: Chera overdoes this thing a bit.. it doesnt seem to be natural for Cheran... I didn't refer Cheran here ..No idea which movie you are refering ..I havn't seen pirivom santhippom..

  
  
  I think he is referring to Maayakannadi ? Kalyasi, Were you referring to that ??
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 3:33:47 2008.

  Selva,
  சமீபத்துல பின்நவீனத்துவ இலக்கியவாதிகள் எழுதுன புத்தகம் எதுவும் படிச்சீங்களா ? இந்த போடு போடுறீங்க
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Tue Feb 12 3:42:36 2008.

  Mods Please ban all the long post hubbers, I say .
  
  Padikaradhukku rendu naal aagum pola irukku
  
  

• From: ThalaNass on Tue Feb 12 4:32:58 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Mods Please ban all the long post hubbers, I say . Padikaradhukku rendu naal aagum pola irukku

  
  
  
  
  Selva, unbelievable post
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 4:35:30 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Selva, சமீபத்துல பின்நவீனத்துவ இலக்கியவாதிகள் எழுதுன புத்தகம் எதுவும் படிச்சீங்களா ? இந்த போடு போடுறீங்க

  
  Namakku Literature arivu romba kammi. Ennoda ulagam ithula romba sinnathu. Kalki yoda novels (Fictions) la mattumae adangi vittathu.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 4:38:54 2008.

  Joe, Feddy & Nass,
  One more reason might be coz of my new assignment. pagal pooram vetti ya irunthittu night kelambura nerathula vela varugira oru vela
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 5:00:54 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  just like how some ajith fans want Bala to fail, some kamal fans too always rise up to defend kissing in tamil films. enna poruththam namakkul indha poruththam.

  
  Ajith fans want bala to fail. Ya.. Atleast with Naan Kadavul. Again, it won't have a great impact since Bala can direct films till he dies
  Kamal fans defend kissing. Yes... But at the same time, I have seen them bashing Oram Po too. For few, the jerks within the Auto and side way moves and Pooja's bold move *at that time* makes it a FEEL GOOD FILM. Kamalukku athu therla pola
  
  Ithuvallavaa poruthatham
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 5:06:28 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  joe wrote: Selva, சமீபத்துல பின்நவீனத்துவ இலக்கியவாதிகள் எழுதுன புத்தகம் எதுவும் படிச்சீங்களா ? இந்த போடு போடுறீங்க Namakku Literature arivu romba kammi. Ennoda ulagam ithula romba sinnathu. Kalki yoda novels (Fictions) la mattumae adangi vittathu.

  
  
  UngaLukkagave puthu thread aarampichirukken Anga Vaanga
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 12 5:11:45 2008.

  joe wrote:

  UngaLukkagave puthu thread aarampichirukken Anga Vaanga

  
  Yes. Reading the discussions. Will post soon
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 11:19:52 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  But at the same time, I have seen them bashing Oram Po too. For few, the jerks within the Auto and side way moves and Pooja's bold move *at that time* makes it a FEEL GOOD FILM.

  
  I was the only in the hub as far as i know who bashed Oram Po.
  And i never objected to the scenes involving "jerks" in the auto and the likes... In fact i welcome such scenes (just that one should never go to such films with parents) to break Tamil cinema from the shackles of prudishness and celebrated/tolerated vulgarity
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 12 11:34:36 2008.

  Selva unga postukku per thaan ulaga magaa post a??
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 11:44:43 2008.

  (avoiding "quoting", so that it's easy on the eyes )
  
  Selva,
  
  It's simple as this. Siththan's character - Comparing it with New, or Kokki kumar of PP(the best Selva Raghavan film to date) is chalk and cheese. Siththan's is an "imaginary" characterization - whose very "existence" is questioned. (KK is a gangster film, New is a comical fantasy film) And, that could be the issue with people not liking the film. But, it's the handling of Kokki that's not uniform, and um, flawed. The final third of the film is badly written, and jarring enough to show Kokki's confusion (eventually he would go to the prison cell, and start narrating the film), so it's not that we're speaking about the "presence" itself, but it's rather how the character is developed.
  
  Regaring "Confusion" of this characterization. Why Siththan wouldn't take care of himself, just because he is uncultivated? He shouldn't bury a policeman, when he's been doing all that all his life! Once again, that would be one-dimensional if he doesn't do what's simple enough for him.
  
  Finally, as I had said before, Pithamagan is much more sensitive to its characters than Sethu, where the hero's sanity is played for convenience, and his condition is used for "twist". In Pithamagan, such manipulative twists are avoided. It's only that characterization that's being questioned. Compared to a film like Sethu which is strangely liked (and all the overblown twists ignored), I don't see why Pithamagan should be complained of being contrived, when the director doesn't emotionally play with Siththan's condition (though it defines him), and forges a sublime relation with a conman, Sakthi. The film's title "Pithamagan" has also got the pulse of the relation right. The fetishness of the "mental sickness" by our audience is surprising. At one hand, they're emotionally driven by "Sethu" (which also feeds a "love" angle, with a contrived twist one after other), but they couldn't take a Siththan for what he is, when the film just goes about narrating his tale (Rather than the "condition" playing with Sethu)
  
  Regarding Mani, I didn't criticize him. I love his films, I'm just quoting different threads which conveniently called it "artificial" and move on - I don't see it any different. Just because a characterization doesn't work for a few, it doesn't make the film bad. I defend "Alaipayuthey" then, now it's "Pithamagan", though the latter is more "hit or miss".
  
  Btw, Equanimus or Jaiganesh approve of Siththan, now who's to say that their argument of a good characterization is any wrong than those who call it artificial? Mind you, I'm not speaking about the uniformity of the characterization over the film, or how it's developed, we're dealing on the character's condition being "artificial" or not. The film to my mind has been uniform with the way its developed. No sudden "recovery", etc - thankfully!
  
  Now NAnda, Nanda's mother sees her son as incarnation of evil, and the repeated shots of him with blood in his hands, only brings her psyche. She's not compassionate of the child. She can't show the compassion and love for the child, that's why she's not even impressed of him, no matter what he does. Her final (re)action shows how she doesn't want him to exist. That one would call it more of a hate (she actually feels that her son is the reason for all the misery) than being aloof and indifferent.
  
  Finally a particularly bad characterization in a Bala film is said to be no different from SJS, overman heroes - It's like saying failing in statistics major is same as flunking in 8th standard probability paper.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Feb 12 11:50:21 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Finally a particularly bad characterization in a Bala film is said to be no different from SJS, overman heroes - It's like saying failing in statistics major is same as flunking in 8th standard probability paper.

  
  Agree!
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Tue Feb 12 11:50:48 2008.

  Thilak and Selva... padathukku vasanam ezhuthara maadri ezhuthareenga??
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 11:56:25 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Thilak! wrt Paruthi Veeran, I would say that there is a director's POV. Long have our directors changed the ending of their films and content to suit every om dick and harry's POV (Tom - producer, Dick - distributor and Harry - Theatre exhibitor). Bala and Ameer, their film making styles are so diverse, yet bring some of their thoughts and feelings to the table. It is the kind of energy and conviction that we were used to in KB and Bharathiraaja (something that Bhagyaraaj never had and will never have). Thats something we have not seen on the filmi scene since Hey Ram. Here is my POV , take it kinda attitude. PV climax makes sense to me if we bear in mind that his life is always doomed as he has made to many enemies and bad friends in a short span, while their enemies might pose a threat to his life, ameer wanted to show that bad company is sure to rob you of your honour no matter how little you are left with. Is he being too judgemental? well yes, why not? It is his thought and he is entitled to that. I am not claiming that PV was the best work, but definitely far better than the run of the mill crap done by leading heroes and start directors. Bala by the same token makes his movies, even the stoutest of his critics cannot deny the ability he has and his craft and skill. He makes 'his' movies and anyone looking at them from the prism of "movies" alone would be able to easily appreciate how he creates characters and settings that enrich the medium. I have never felt the "tightness" with which he covers a character and presents in an arresting fashion. Sure he could make comedy movies or "action" movies, but I would prefer he continues to make "Bala" movies as there are very few people who make the movies they want to make, in the manner they want to.

  
  
  Though I get your drift on PV and the final portrayal of gang rape (though it did shake me with unescapable nausea) , but yes, I slowly agreed with likes of Zero/Rangan with their take.
  
  Btw, I totally agree regarding "Bala films". It also reminds me of your Burton analogy. It's like expecting "Burton films", though the latter is more cynical, and idiosyncratic about the world, than say the self-expressive morbidity in Bala's work.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:29:14 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  I concur with Thilak about Sethu. I've always thought of it to be a very noticeably manipulative film. Bala sandwiches two different films in the two halves as one. In fact, 7/G Rainbow very much reminded me of Sethu as it drew close to its end. It is thanks to Bala's narrative finesse and sensitivity towards the characters that it doesn't stick out as badly as it should have. Also, the angles of mysticism, foreboding of what's in store in the latter half of the story early on in (the Maheshwari character playing the mad woman at the other end of spectrum, for example) et al. add much to the film. Well, what's really contrived in Nandhaa? Nandhaa is very underrated, I think it's quite superb, actually. The tragedy of a patricide (truly dealing with an Oedipal situation without just throwing the word around) brought out poignantly. That Maheshwari (the mother) doesn't pay heed to all her son's attempts to reconcile is often pointed out (I'd never understand what "I didn't like that character" would mean when offered as a criticism on the film!) as a flaw, but I think it's handled so well. Now, the mother in that film can't be in usual mother-son terms with her son, can she? Her son killed his own father, her husband. Much worse as she might think he is, his being there did mean quite a lot to her and kept her status quo in a good shape. And, here comes his son -- more importantly, her son -- who finishes his story, her story too to an extent, and asks for his mother's hand. What Nandhaa doesn't find in his mother, he finds in Periyavar, who becomes his surrogate father of sorts. What the film indeed miss in comparison to Bala's other two films was the magic of Raaja. Yuvan did a great job, of course, but it's not hard to see how his score pales in comparison to what Raaja does -- usually, even -- in his scores, and particularly in Sethu and Pithamagan. Regarding Pithamagan, I'd say the story of the ganja landlord and Siththan (and hence Sakthi) is more of a MacGuffin to explore the central theme of the film. It's simplistically handled alright -- we know by interval that the villain has his eye on Sakthi, but the payoff (for taking the MacGuffin, that is) is superb to say the least. Again, what really are the twists that Bala contrives in the film? Surya's death is central for the film. It sets up the culmination of the film. That kept aside, are there any contrivances forced in to further the film's theme or abruptly accentuate the viewer's feelings about the film (like in, say, Paruththiveeran, that being the non-Bala film that's often referred to in this discussion)?

  
  
  
  Oh please. I didn't mean to offer it as a criticism of the whole film. Just a "Reaction" if you will. I never liked the part for its acting (there I would blame Bala too), it simply lacked nuance (same would suffice with Pithamagan, although it functioned as a "MacGuffin").
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:34:33 2008.

  Devar Magan wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Devar Magan wrote: Equanimus, PR, thilak ... Devar Magan, Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.) well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts.. no offence meant.. continue writing

  
  
  Surprising, They are both terse, I haven't thought of theirs to be unnecessarily voluminous. I plead guily though.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 12 12:44:28 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Nerd wrote: joe wrote: onnum puriyalaiye

  
  
  

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Mods Please ban all the long post hubbers, I say . Padikaradhukku rendu naal aagum pola irukku

  
  
  

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Thilak and Selva... padathukku vasanam ezhuthara maadri ezhuthareenga??

  
  
  Sure-a Enakku(don't know about Selva) kuda bore-a thaan irukku. (to talk about Siththan)
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Tue Feb 12 13:26:56 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Devar Magan wrote: equanimus wrote: Devar Magan wrote: Equanimus, PR, thilak ... Devar Magan, Puriyala. Or you referring to discussing about off-topic things? (The topic being 'nAn kadavuL' that is.) well, just a sigh after reading the trio's long posts.. no offence meant.. continue writing Surprising, They are both terse, I haven't thought of theirs to be unnecessarily voluminous. I plead guily though.

  thilak, u have done nothing to plead guilty..
  
  i do want to read all ur posts..
  
  due to the length sometimes a sigh.. thats it..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 14:03:47 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  jaiganes wrote: I guess that is a good sign. more so because he doesn't sugar coat a theme like "Bombay" with a "humma humma" or "kuchi kuchi raakamma". If he makes a movie on that it will be in your face tight slap. He makes his heroes do morbid things. but sometimes dont we feel like going and biting someone's neck for the horrific things they have done. EKSI ! Then what about "Kaana Karunguyilae" in Sethu and Simran dance in Pithamagan. I agree that Bala has edge over Mani in few things. At the same time, ithu konjam diff ah theriyuthu.

  
  
  Selva,
  
  I think you didn't understand his point, if he takes Bombay, there will not be any sugar coats. Sethu and PM are different from Bombay-type themes, aren't they?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Feb 12 14:20:08 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Ajith fans want bala to fail. Ya.. Atleast with Naan Kadavul. Again, it won't have a great impact since Bala can direct films till he dies

  
  
  Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 12 17:13:35 2008.

  I think Thilak has pretty much said everything that can be said about how the plot of Sethu is contrived to drive the film forward towards its end. If not for these contrivances, the film would've been long over. It's like Kaadhal Kottai or a similar film in these sequences. Bala in his autobiographical series writes how he drew elements from what he saw during a visit to a mental asylum like the one shown in the film and then wove in a love story around it, also infusing some elements from the life of a drug-addict friend of his (not sure what exactly he took from his friend's life). The angry lover trying to win the heart of the demure heroine in the first half loses sanity, and the plot goes in a different direction in the second half. It is quite visibly manipulative. That said, I still love the film for many other things. I think it was more of a "launch film" for Bala. He wanted to have something attention-grabbing in his first film. ("kalavarappaduththi gavanaththai Irkka vENdum enRa yOsanaiyilEyE thirindha kAlam," he says.)
  
  On Nandhaa, I'm surprised that anything that's not entirely explicable purely in terms of rationale is dismissed off as "inconsistent characterization." (What good is "consistent characterization" anyway, if all it means is that a character's actions are just forthrightly understandable with no revelations at all; which was the case with Kokki Kumar after the first hour of Pudhupettai, in my view. "Oh, yeah, this is perfectly understandable... and, oh, yeah, that one too... and so is this scene.") It seems to be like demanding a rational explanation for all the characters' motives and actions. Nandhaa's mother and Siththan are not one-dimensionally "corrected" characters behaving the way one ought to in such situations. The trauma of a mother giving birth to a demonic son is extremely intense. The mother is not a simplistically benign figure when it comes to dealing with the various actions of her son. The evil in him is all the more terrifying to her (more than others) because she gave birth to him; he came from her own self, so to say. She never manages to come out of her own guilt -- of "letting" her son murder her husband. The aftermath of a patricide is really catastrophic. I'd even go on to say that (if I may indulge a bit in psychoanalysis), to her mind, wholeheartedly pardoning her son would be akin to approving of her husband's murder by her son; akin to joining hands with her Oedipal son.
  
  

  thilak4life wrote:

  Oh please. I didn't mean to offer it as a criticism of the whole film. Just a "Reaction" if you will. I never liked the part for its acting (there I would blame Bala too), it simply lacked nuance (same would suffice with Pithamagan, although it functioned as a "MacGuffin").

  
  I was not referring to your comments, Thilak. I am actually not sure if I even read your post where you talked about your "reaction" to the film or the character. As for the acting department, Maheshwari didn't have much to do (but she was affecting enough for me), but Surya, I thought, was really good. It's Raj Kiran who takes the top honours though, with a brilliant performance as Periyavar. (His Thavamai Thavamirundhu performance didn't work as well as this one for me.)
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 21:54:54 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Ajith fans want bala to fail. Ya.. Atleast with Naan Kadavul. Again, it won't have a great impact since Bala can direct films till he dies Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him.

  
  
  I agree with you ,though I am not impressed with Arya so far.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:32:23 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  wow Joe, you seem to be a big promoter for kissing in thamizh films. joe wrote: "Unga appan ammavukku muththam kodukkuraan" yaar paaththaa? saththyamaa naa paakkala! some things are better off behind the screens....

  
  
  I am really surprized here!
  
  NOV is being too conservative whereas joe is too liberal!
  
  Am I reading it right?
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 22:40:23 2008.

  Thamizh,
  அதற்கு பின்னர் என் விளக்கத்தையும் படியுங்க ..விடை கிடைக்கும் .
  
  btw , ஜோ லிபரலா இருப்பதில் ஏனிந்த ஆச்சரியம்?
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:45:36 2008.

  சரி, "தமிழ்படங்களில்" உங்களின் எதிர்பார்ப்பு என்று பார்க்கும்போது ஓரளவுக்கு புரிகிறது.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 22:51:32 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I am not promoting kissing and I am talking about married couple kissing with true love not some teenagers kissing while rooling ..But when focusing certain parts of women deliberately , etharthame illatha asingamana movements can be taken very normally ,why kissing alone taken as Aapaasam ?

  
  
  ஜோ: கல்யாணம் ஆகாத காதலர்கள் முத்தம் பரிமாறிக்கொள்வதையும், டீனேஜர்ஸ் செய்வதையும் ஆபாசமாக எடுக்காமலும் இருக்கலாம்!
  
  இதெல்லாம் எப்படி பார்க்கிறோம் என்பதைப்பொறுத்தது!
  
  சரி, விடுங்க!
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 22:58:02 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  ஜோ: கல்யாணம் ஆகாத காதலர்கள் முத்தம் பரிமாறிக்கொள்வதையும், டீனேஜர்ஸ் செய்வதையும் ஆபாசமாக எடுக்காமலும் இருக்கலாம்!

  
  
  எனக்கு ஒன்றும் ஆட்சேபனை இல்லை ..ஆனால் கல்யாணம் ஆன தம்பதியர் கொடுக்கும் முத்தமே ஆபாசமாக தெரிபவர்களிடம் போய் இதை சொல்ல முடியுமா ?
  
  முதல்ல கூரை ஏறி கோழி பிடிக்கலாம் ..அப்புறம் வானம் ஏறி வைகுண்டம் போறத பத்தி யோசிக்கலாம் ..இல்லையா!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:06:38 2008.

  எழுத்தாளர் ஞாநி சொல்கிறார்!!!
  
  
  காதலைப் பற்றி எனக்கு நன்றாகவே தெரியும், நிறையவே காதலித்திருக்கிறேன். என்னை விட நன்றாகக் காதலை அறிந்திருக்கக் கூடியவர் முதலமைச்சர் கலைஞர். திருமணத்துக்குப் பிறகு கூட காதலிலிருந்து அவரால் தப்பிக்க முடியவில்லை. அவருடைய அன்றைய காதலி, (தற்போது துணைவி) அவர் மனைவியிடம் நடிகை மனோரமாவால் அம்பலப்படுத்தப்பட்ட வரலாற்று நிகழ்ச்சியை அண்மையில் அவரே பொது மேடையில் நினைவு கூர்ந்தார்.
  
  காதலின் வலிமையையும் வலியையும் அவர் அறிந்திருந்தால் போதுமா? இன்று தமிழ்க் காதலர்களின் நிலை என்ன?
  
  ஒரு பூங்காவிலும், ஒரு கடற்கரையிலும் காதலர்களுக்கு நிம்மதியான இடம் இல்லை. சென்னை மெரீனாவில் காலம் காலமாக இருந்து வந்த லவ்வர்ஸ் வாக் எனப்படும் காதலர் பாதை என்ற உட்சாலையை, பியூட்டிஃபிகேஷன் என்ற பெயரில் ஒழித்தே விட்டார்கள்.
  
  பதினெட்டு வயதில் தேசத்தின் ஆட்சியை யாரிடம் ஒப்படைக்கலாம் என்று தீர்மானிக்கும் உரிமை உள்ள நம் இளைஞர்களுக்கு தங்கள் வாழ்க்கைத் துணையைத் தீர்மானிக்கும் உரிமையோ துணிச்சலோ இல்லை. காவல் நிலையங்களில் தஞ்சம் புகும் காதலர்களுக்கு உதவ வேண்டாம் என்று வாய்மொழி உத்தரவு போடப்படுகிறது.
  
  என்றேனும் ஒரு நாள் முற்றிலுமாக ஜாதியை ஒழிக்க ஒரே சிறந்த வழி காதல் மட்டும்தான்.எனவே ஜாதி மீறிய காதல் திருமணம் செய்வோருக்கும் அவர்கள் வாரிசுகளுக்கும் கல்வி, வேலை வாய்ப்பு, வங்கிக் கடன், வீட்டு வசதி என்று அனைத்துத் துறைகளிலும் தனியே கணிசமான இட ஒதுக்கீட்டை கலைஞர் கருணாநிதி அறிவிக்க வேண்டும்.
  
  முதலில் நம் கல்லூரிப் பாடப் புத்தகங்களில் திருக்குறளின் இன்பத்துப் பாலுக்கு இருந்து வரும் நடைமுறைத் தடையை நீக்க வேண்டும். காதல் என்றால் என்ன என்று தெரியாமல், வணிக சினிமா காட்டும் வக்கிரக் காதலால் குழம்பித் தடுமாறி ஆண் பெண் உறவுகளை சிக்கலாக்கிக் கொள்ளும் நம் இளைஞர்களுக்கு உதவுவதற்காக +2 முதல் கல்லூரி வரை கல்வி வளாகங்களில் உளநல ஆலோசகர்களை அரசு செலவில் நியமிக்க வேண்டும். தொடர்ந்து தங்கள் குடும்பங்களில் காதல் திருமணங்களை ஊக்குவிக்கும் குடும்பங்களை ஆண்டுதோறும் தேர்ந்தெடுத்து தமிழ்நாட்டின் சிறந்த குடும்ப விருது வழங்க வேண்டும்.
  
  இந்த யோசனைகளில் பாதியையாவது பிப்ரவரி _ 14 காதலர் தினத்தன்று அரசு ஆணையாக அறிவித்தால், நிச்சயம் அந்த வாரப் பூச்செண்டை கலைஞர் கருணாநிதிக்கே தருவேன் என்று காதல் நெஞ்சங்களின் சார்பில் உறுதியளிக்கிறேன்..
  
  நன்றி : குமுதம்
  .
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:07:29 2008.

  joe wrote:

  முதல்ல கூரை ஏறி கோழி பிடிக்கலாம் ..அப்புறம் வானம் ஏறி வைகுண்டம் போறத பத்தி யோசிக்கலாம் ..இல்லையா!

  
  
  ஞாநி எதைப்பிடிக்க சொல்கிறார் ஜோ?
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 12 23:10:59 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  joe wrote: முதல்ல கூரை ஏறி கோழி பிடிக்கலாம் ..அப்புறம் வானம் ஏறி வைகுண்டம் போறத பத்தி யோசிக்கலாம் ..இல்லையா! ஞாநி எதைப்பிடிக்க சொல்கிறார் ஜோ?

  
  
  கண்டிப்பா வானம் ஏறி வைகுண்டம் போறத பத்தித் தான் சொல்லுறார்
  
  தமிழகத்தைப் பொறுத்தவரை இந்த விஷயத்தில் நாம் இன்னும் கூரை ஏறி கோழியே பிடிக்கவில்லை.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Tue Feb 12 23:12:23 2008.

  
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Feb 12 23:39:46 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  NOV is being too conservative whereas joe is too liberal! Am I reading it right?

  it is not so simplistic thamizh.
  theres a vast difference between english and thamizh films. we do not relate so closely to the former is as we do with the latter.
  
  imo, a kiss is too intimate to be shown on the screen.
  
  of course proponents will bring in other forms of vulgarity in tamil films for comparison, but that is really not the point.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 13 0:04:55 2008.

  mINdum digression-a?
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 13 0:13:59 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  mINdum digression-a?

  
  
  மன்னிக்கவும்
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Feb 13 0:30:46 2008.

  joe wrote:

  மன்னிக்கவும்

  ennaiyum.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Wed Feb 13 0:45:27 2008.

  ennada ivanum digress pannittu ippadi solraan nu paakkareengala? All in the gaem!
  //End Dig
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:19:27 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Selva, I think you didn't understand his point, if he takes Bombay, there will not be any sugar coats. Sethu and PM are different from Bombay-type themes, aren't they?

  
  What I meant there was : "A song like "Kaana Karunguyilae" & "Kuchi Kuchi Rakkamma" doesn't have much difference if we speak strictly on the theme and the way it is presented. I have even said that he has edge over Mani in few areas if not all
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:20:58 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Ajith fans want bala to fail. Ya.. Atleast with Naan Kadavul. Again, it won't have a great impact since Bala can direct films till he dies Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him.

  
  
  Why this explanation ? Nice to know YOUR view.
  
  Agree with you, ARYA is the BEST FIT for that character. Most of the bala fans also have the same opinion as you. Nice to know their perspective
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:36:20 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: But at the same time, I have seen them bashing Oram Po too. For few, the jerks within the Auto and side way moves and Pooja's bold move *at that time* makes it a FEEL GOOD FILM. I was the only in the hub as far as i know who bashed Oram Po. And i never objected to the scenes involving "jerks" in the auto and the likes... In fact i welcome such scenes (just that one should never go to such films with parents) to break Tamil cinema from the shackles of prudishness and celebrated/tolerated vulgarity

  
  
  OOPS ! I misunderstood Roshan's friend's view as Roshan's view. Athaan *them*. Otherwise, I would have referred to you directly just like I did for Veyyil. Yes, I should have worded it properly
  
  I think I didn't post it clearly there. I think a FEEL GOOD film has different versions for different people. What I was trying to say there was : "It is same for kamal film as well as a Gayathri film". There can't be different perceptions for both the things
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:48:15 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Arya is the best fit for this character, I can sense that from the stills. I was so happy after seeing those stills and I can't imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures. I was so glad that Bala and Ajith had a rift, atleast it is good for the movie. I care more about the movie than the personal problems of any artists. I am sure it will win at the BO. But if it fails as you say, even if Ajith would have played the lead role, it will fail. I don't think Ajith can save a Bala movie. I am confident that Bala doesn't need a star to showcase his script, he needs good actors, even unpopular ones are good for him.

  
  I think I missed the last few lines. Yes. If it fails, even ajith couldn't have saved the movie. Now with Arya, if it fails, then Bala himself couldn't have saved the movie. He needs good actors and certainly not bad actors like Ajith
  
  Yup.. He is not driven by star or popularity power. Even an S A Rajkumar can do wonders in his films and can score better than his previous 3 films :thumbsup;
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Wed Feb 13 1:49:10 2008.

  Selva don't waste ur time and energy talking abt #$%^^&& film's
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 1:49:50 2008.

  joe wrote:

  though I am not impressed with Arya so far.

  
  
  Were you impressed with Vikram before Sethu or Surya before Nandha? If you think Arya is so bad in his earlier performances, you will see him with a better performance in this movie.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:55:51 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Selva don't waste ur time and energy talking abt #$%^^&& film's

  
  
  Athu illa Feddy.
  
  Bala ditched Ajith >>>>>>> So, Selva bashed Bala and his type of films forgetting my liking towards Sethu (esp) & Nandha (Partly). I didn't like Pithamagan.
  
  Ameer supported Ajith in this case >>>>>>>
  
  So, Selva praised Ameer's film paruthiveeran from head to hell and supported him like anything.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 1:57:56 2008.

  Contrary to what others feel here ..
  
  IMO, Arya is certainly a good actor atleast in Vishnuvardhan films. I was more impressed with his performance in Pattiyal and was least impressed with Bharath. He was more live and natural in that pucca slum rougue role. I don't see him as a bad actor.
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Feb 13 1:59:21 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Were you impressed with Vikram before Sethu or Surya before Nandha?

  
  
  Yes ,Vikram impressed me in Puthiya Mannargal and Ullasam ..For Surya ,even nanda was not impressive for me ,somehow I started to like him by Pithamagan.
  
  

  Quote:

  If you think Arya is so bad in his earlier performances, you will see him with a better performance in this movie.

  
  
  May be ..That is why I added 'so far' in my statement ,means still I am ready to get impresed.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:07:53 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  What I meant there was : "A song like "Kaana Karunguyilae" & "Kuchi Kuchi Rakkamma" doesn't have much difference if we speak strictly on the theme and the way it is presented. I have even said that he has edge over Mani in few areas if not all

  
  
  I think both films these are different in nature. Bombay was based on a true event and Sethu is not. So I was expecting a closer look at what happened in Bombay something similar on the lines of Schindler's list but the movie was so bad IMO.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:12:32 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  I think both films these are different in nature. Bombay was based on a true event and Sethu is not. So I was expecting a closer look at what happened in Bombay something similar on the lines of Schindler's list but the movie was so bad IMO.

  
  Sure. That is why we are able to see the *Sugar coating* and it wasn't imaginary as well But I was commenting on the songs and the relevant reference
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:21:38 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  I think I missed the last few lines. Yes. If it fails, even ajith couldn't have saved the movie. Now with Arya, if it fails, then Bala himself couldn't have saved the movie

  
  
  My point is it doesn't matter who acts in it (Ajith/Arya), if it fails, it is because of Bala, if it truimphs, it is also because of him. I don't think any actor will make any difference. With Arya in the lead, it has more chances of being a hit. People will come to theatres with no pre-defined notions and will accept it. But placing a star actor in a serious movie is always a bad idea, Bala escaped it luckily.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  He needs good actors and certainly not bad actors like Ajith

  
  
  I did not say Ajith/anyone a bad actor. Everything is in the hands of a director. A good director can make a bad actor look good. But a bad director can make a good actor look bad. Directors are the real heroes of movies..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:22:46 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  IMO, Arya is certainly a good actor atleast in Vishnuvardhan films. I was more impressed with his performance in Pattiyal and was least impressed with Bharath. He was more live and natural in that pucca slum rougue role. I don't see him as a bad actor.

  
  
  me too. I think both in AA and Pattiyal, he was apt for those characters.
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Wed Feb 13 2:27:48 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: IMO, Arya is certainly a good actor atleast in Vishnuvardhan films. I was more impressed with his performance in Pattiyal and was least impressed with Bharath. He was more live and natural in that pucca slum rougue role. I don't see him as a bad actor. me too. I think both in AA and Pattiyal, he was apt for those characters.

  
  
  Especially in AA when he says "Subramani Enna patha illa ithuvaraikum evvalo mariyathayoda pesikkitu iruken - ithuvaraikum naa yaarkittayum ivvalo mariyathaya pesunathu illa"
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:28:52 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Yes ,Vikram impressed me in Puthiya Mannargal and Ullasam

  
  
  Good to know that you spotted the talent way before us I didn't take him seriously before Sethu.
  
  

  joe wrote:

  ..For Surya ,even nanda was not impressive for me ,somehow I started to like him by Pithamagan.

  
  
  Yeah, but you need a Nandha Surya to get a Pithamagan Surya
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:32:17 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  That is why we are able to see the *Sugar coating* and it wasn't imaginary as well But I was commenting on the songs and the relevant reference

  
  
  You can't just pick songs alone and compare. We need to see the overall picture/themes of the movies.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:32:28 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  My point is it doesn't matter who acts in it (Ajith/Arya), if it fails, it is because of Bala, if it truimphs, it is also because of him. I don't think any actor will make any difference. With Arya in the lead, it has more chances of being a hit. People will come to theatres with no pre-defined notions and will accept it. But placing a star actor in a serious movie is always a bad idea, Bala escaped it luckily.

  
  Both the lines are Yaaru irunthalum hit / flop aaana bala vaalannu sollureenga. Appo Arya va potta hit aaga neraya chance irukka eppadi ?? TR potta kooda entha expectationum illama thaan varuvaanga. Athukkaaga padam hit aayidumaa... Or SA Rajkumar potta padam hit aaga vaaippu since people wont expect it
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:34:08 2008.

  Kalyasi wrote:

  Especially in AA when he says "Subramani Enna patha illa ithuvaraikum evvalo mariyathayoda pesikkitu iruken - ithuvaraikum naa yaarkittayum ivvalo mariyathaya pesunathu illa"

  
  
  yeah, it was a good one.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:35:45 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Both the lines are Yaaru irunthalum hit / flop aaana bala vaalannu sollureenga. Appo Arya va potta hit aaga neraya chance irukka eppadi ?? :

  
  
  ithukku badhil antha post-laye irukku.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:37:23 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  You can't just pick songs alone and compare. We need to see the overall picture/themes of the movies.

  
  Athe Athe !! Itha thaan naanum solluraen. Jai was using those songs to illustrate it. I just wanted to highlight that even bala films have them
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:42:59 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Athe Athe !! Itha thaan naanum solluraen. Jai was using those songs to illustrate it. I just wanted to highlight that even bala films have them

  
  
  No, he wrote those lines wrt to the theme. He didn't complain about nila athu vaanaththu mela in Nayagan or January maatham in alaipayuthe. He complained about a movie like bombay having humma humma. If Bala takes a movie on the lines of Bombay, it will have a better treatment and won't have humma humma was his point.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:46:30 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  No, he wrote those lines wrt to the theme. He didn't complain about nila athu vaanaththu mela in Nayagan or January maatham in alaipayuthe. He complained about a movie like bombay having humma humma. If Bala takes a movie on the lines of Bombay, it will have a better treatment and won't have humma humma was his point.

  
  Yes.. But Sonalikku pathila Simran ah aada vitruppar. I know your hatred towards ManiRathnam. Having said that, I doubt whether Bala could have given that. Let him prove that he is versatile director. Then we can talk on this.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 2:55:54 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes.. But Sonalikku pathila Simran ah aada vitruppar.

  
  
  Simranna aada vittalum ganniyama aada vitturuppaar, fully covered I mean. Certainly he will not have songs showing navel and kissing scenes in the bedroom. Bala maathiri edukka DHILL venum, I don't think Mani has guts.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  I know your hatred towards ManiRathnam.

  
  
  And I know your hatred towards Bala
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Let him prove that he is versatile director. Then we can talk on this.

  
  
  Sure. Lets see how he comes out in NK and in his future projects.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 2:58:46 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Simranna aada vittalum ganniyama aada vitturuppaar, fully covered I mean. Certainly he will not have songs showing navel and kissing scenes in the bedroom. Bala maathiri edukka DHILL venum, I don't think Mani has guts.

  
  Oh !! Ippadi onnu irukkaa. So, kanniyamaa *sugar coat* pannunaa thappillaennu sollureenga
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 3:04:04 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Oh !! Ippadi onnu irukkaa. So, kanniyamaa *sugar coat* pannunaa thappillaennu sollureenga

  
  
  Appuram sonaliykku badhila simranna aada vappaarnnu sonna ennaththa solrathu??
  
  I have high respect for people like Bala/Ameer who never done any skin show to get their money back at the ticket counters. They are one step above than other directors IMO.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 3:05:53 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: Oh !! Ippadi onnu irukkaa. So, kanniyamaa *sugar coat* pannunaa thappillaennu sollureenga Appuram sonaliykku badhila simranna aada vappaarnnu sonna ennaththa solrathu?? I have high respect for people like Bala/Ameer who never done any skin show to get their money back at the ticket counters. They are one step above than other directors IMO.

  
  
  Yes. they are one step above in getting their money back if not through skin show
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 3:13:12 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes. they are one step above in getting their money back if not through skin show

  
  
  Nope, they are one step behind in getting their money back. If they want to be one step above, they must include those skin shows just like Mani does. I don't think Bala will go to that level.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 13 11:55:51 2008.

  I never meant to show mani in any bad light in comparison with Bala.
  Mani is still controlled by his crowd, he still has to have a "Mouna Ragam" divya kinda heroine, "Mouna Ragam" Manohar kinda champ in his movies. Though his characters are repetitive, we have lapped them up because they are cute and hip. Bala stands on the other side of the spectrum, if he uses his 'fringe' characters even twice in his 3 films he gets "stamped" and bashed. What it shows is his impact. This impact was there with mani, but commerce has got the better of the great film maker, the cutting edge has become somewhat blunt. Bala on the other hand is getting sharper by every film and he does't care when his last film was released and which big hero has to be cast. He doesn't mind depriving himself to "express" his thoughts with least of compromise on celluloid. If you were a distributor, you wouldn't have touched "Pithamagan" which is how offbeat anyone in Thamizh movies can get. Still the movie was released and got widespread appreciation barring a few netizens who have their disagreement with the content and want Bala to be more "versatile". It is a pity that we ourselves can't be versatile, but want a "Dravid" to play like Dhoni. I stand on the other side and say, it is ok for Bala to make a movie every 3 years or even more, but with increasing sharpness. Even if his movies might end the same way, it is OK as there are a thousand other movies that get released in between with "Excess Sugar". I would suggest people who criticize Bala, to go and read some of the inspirations of Bala from literature and then it would be clear. Pls read works of Jeyakanthan, Jeyamohan, Aadhimoolam. The documentation of the fringe life in our society by these writers is "shocking" and repulsive to "Sujatha" fans. There is no hope in the lifes of these characters and whatever little happiness experienced in between the gloom is so "elevating" . This is the motiff of Bala's movies and thereby the "sensationalism" accusations on his movies are thus farfetched. I liked Sethu, but liked Nanadha much better and i simply was bowled over by Pithamagan as I could feel the cutting edge becoming sharper and sharper instead of getting blunted or softened by "success" and return to "comfortable life". After Bharathiraaja who went to the "cheris" for En Uyir Thozhan and KB who went to the dinges of red light area and streets of murderers in Thappau thaalangal we have a maker who is constantly looking at the underbelly of our society. I would have loved if Mani went in there with his camera(he went there to capture the darkest of Maniratnam's villains in Ayudha Ezuthu), instead he went to Mumbai for big Money, Good commerce, but bad art and that is my grouse and why i constantly comparing them even if i have the best respect for Mani for his Nayagan, Anjali and Iruvar.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 12:09:39 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  thamiz wrote: NOV is being too conservative whereas joe is too liberal! Am I reading it right? it is not so simplistic thamizh. theres a vast difference between english and thamizh films. we do not relate so closely to the former is as we do with the latter. imo, a kiss is too intimate to be shown on the screen. of course proponents will bring in other forms of vulgarity in tamil films for comparison, but that is really not the point.

  
  
  Trust me I got what you really meant!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 12:13:07 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: மன்னிக்கவும் ennaiyum.

  
  
  என்னையும், முடிந்தால்!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 12:28:03 2008.

  It's difficult to make your mark in the industry without a godfather. Kannada actor Devaraj is an exception. He is now looking forward to his role in the Tamil film Naan Kadavul
  
  Now director Bala would have thought only about your acting abilities. Did you ask him why you were chosen?
  
  Exactly. When I got a call from Bala I was taken by surprise. It crossed my mind that he wanted to sign my son. He apologized for not meeting me personally but said he wanted me for a very important role in his next film, Nan Kadavul. I asked him why he thought of me when I was not a popular star in Tamil and am going through a lean period here. He said he had thought of me for his Pitamahan but things didn't work out then. He said he had watched Huliya and loved my performance and the film.
  
  He is yet to talk about the storyline, but I've watched his films and am confident he'll do me justice.
  
  One of your assets is your voice. Are you going to dub yourself?
  
  I'm not fluent in Tamil but I will speak my own lines.
  
  I plan to do that in Telugu too.
  
  NK comes out in Telugu too??
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 13 12:53:16 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I would suggest people who criticize Bala, to go and read some of the inspirations of Bala from literature and then it would be clear.

  
  
  Yes, a guy who couldn't even finish his arts degree changed his life upside down because of one short story of Nanjil Naadan. He is closer to the literature, that is evident from his works.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Wed Feb 13 13:45:34 2008.

  Equanimus,
  That's a great point you make (a bit of Freud too) on the Oedipal element (this term didn't strike me, thanks), and most importantly, the everlasting effect of the patricide. btw Idha term mindla vechukuren, venum bodhu use pannikuren.
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Wed Feb 13 13:56:14 2008.

  <Digr>
  
  Thilak, Prabhu Ram and Equanimus! I'm in awe of your writing abilities, both in the English language, and the depth of analysis you guys portray in all these discussions... Very inspirational... Keep it up!
  
  
  
  <Digr>
  
  

• From: thamiz on Wed Feb 13 16:50:41 2008.

  I hope you read them bay!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 23:49:35 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  I hope you read them bay!

  
  
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Wed Feb 13 23:57:17 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay!

  
  
  Insult..
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Wed Feb 13 23:59:26 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult..

  
  Bay will clarify that
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 0:05:38 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that

  
  
  
  
  In any case, Bay is being too kind of course.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 0:09:42 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that

  
  
  Just peeped to see what's on here . Too many lengthy posts. . padikirathukku porumaiyum illa, nEramum illa
  
  oRE moochula.. orE paragraphla.. lengthy'a post paNNuRavangaLukku mods oru warning koduthA nallathu It really puts the reader off - no matter what the content is.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 0:10:33 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that In any case, Bay is being too kind of course.

  
  
  I was about to say that, Bay always tries to be nice and diplomatic
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 14 0:15:29 2008.

  Roshan,
  A ban would be a better option though
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 0:18:58 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that In any case, Bay is being too kind of course. I was about to say that, Bay always tries to be nice and diplomatic

  
  
  Thangamanavar...
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Thu Feb 14 3:35:42 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that Just peeped to see what's on here . Too many lengthy posts. . padikirathukku porumaiyum illa, nEramum illa oRE moochula.. orE paragraphla.. lengthy'a post paNNuRavangaLukku mods oru warning koduthA nallathu It really puts the reader off - no matter what the content is.

  ithukku thaan naan oru potten.. but, neenga remba strong dose kodukkureenga..
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 4:18:30 2008.

  Devar Magan wrote:

  Roshan wrote: selvakumar wrote: thilak4life wrote: selvakumar wrote: thamiz wrote: I hope you read them bay! Insult.. Bay will clarify that Just peeped to see what's on here . Too many lengthy posts. . padikirathukku porumaiyum illa, nEramum illa oRE moochula.. orE paragraphla.. lengthy'a post paNNuRavangaLukku mods oru warning koduthA nallathu It really puts the reader off - no matter what the content is. ithukku thaan naan oru potten.. but, neenga remba strong dose kodukkureenga..

  
  
  I was just kidding like others and was basically referring to the lengthy posts that are made in just one paragraph. It looks so untidy. I dont know about others but it really puts me off and I skip those posts mostly without reading. Mathapadi, I relish reading the write ups of Prabhu, Thilak, Selva et al. IvargaL sEvai intha hub'ku thEvai IppO enakku time kedekkAthathuthAn pirachinai So couldnt go through most of the discussions in the hub for the last couple of weeks.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 14 4:51:14 2008.

  I am in still reading Monday's posts. Evening-kuLLa vandhu sErndhuruvEn-nu ninaikkiREn.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Thu Feb 14 5:12:20 2008.

  I wrote only three "long" posts (meaning posts that ran more than 10 lines or so!) in total. And, the longest one still had only three paragraphs! I demand vindication.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 14 6:32:34 2008.

  Nice discussion.
  
  
  இச்சகத்துளோரெலாம் எதிர்த்து நின்ற போதினும்
  ....
  பச்சை ஊண் இயைந்து வேல் படைகள் வந்த போதினும்.....
  அசராமல் எழுதும் செல்வா
  
  Needless to say - still I will say - I disagree with you on most of the points in the last few pages. Particularly the ones about Siththan's allegedly "flawed" characterization, the despicability of uNarchchi suraNdal and some other comparisons etc.
  
  Anyway...next...meet pannuvOm !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 14 8:02:18 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Nice discussion. இச்சகத்துளோரெலாம் எதிர்த்து நின்ற போதினும் .... பச்சை ஊண் இயைந்து வேல் படைகள் வந்த போதினும்..... அசராமல் எழுதும் செல்வா Needless to say - still I will say - I disagree with you on most of the points in the last few pages. Particularly the ones about Siththan's allegedly "flawed" characterization, the despicability of uNarchchi suraNdal and some other comparisons etc. Anyway...next...meet pannuvOm !

  
  
  இடியே பாய்ந்த பிறகு, வேல் எல்லாம் ஒன்றுமில்லை.
  
  I know that you won't agree on that. But atleast in this thread, I never expect anyone to agree with me.
  
  <couldn't participate more on the TC & social resp thread. will try to join soon >
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 9:37:08 2008.

  PR, we will meet..will meet..meet..
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Feb 14 9:46:37 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  PR, we will meet..will meet..meet..

  
  
  
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Thu Feb 14 9:53:54 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  PR, we will meet..will meet..meet..

  
  
  
  
  KOOOOOL
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 10:21:18 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: PR, we will meet..will meet..meet.. KOOOOOL

  
  
  Chumma athirudhu'la?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 14 10:21:49 2008.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: PR, we will meet..will meet..meet..

  
  
  Hey..yena sirippu? vendam...aaan!
  
  

• From: thamiz on Thu Feb 14 14:02:35 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  I dont know about others but it really puts me off and I skip those posts mostly without reading. .

  
  
  நீங்க ஹானஸ்ட்டா மனம் திறந்து சொல்லீட்டீங்க!
  
  நிறைய பேர் டிஸ்ஹானஸ்ட்டா சொல்லமால் சொல்லிக்கொள்கிறார்கள்னு நான் நினைக்கிறேன்.
  
  Though scuh posts are not for me, but we should respect their effort and the time they spent to make their points!
  
  It would have been nice of them if there are some "BOTTOMLINE message" in those posts so that we can just read that at least, and get the message!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 14:10:03 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  Roshan wrote: I dont know about others but it really puts me off and I skip those posts mostly without reading. . நீங்க ஹானஸ்ட்டா மனம் திறந்து சொல்லீட்டீங்க! நிறைய பேர் டிஸ்ஹானஸ்ட்டா சொல்லமால் சொல்லிக்கொள்கிறார்கள்னு நான் நினைக்கிறேன். Though scuh posts are not for me, but we should respect their effort and the time they spent to make their points! It would have been nice of them if there are some "BOTTOMLINE message" in those posts so that we can just read that at least, and get the message!

  
  
  I totally agree. But ezhuthumpOthu suthi vaLaikkAma, nEradiyA - paragraphs, illEnna point formla konjam neat'a ezhuthunA padikkiRathukk aarvam varum. adhathAn solla vanthEn
  
  

• From: m_23_bayarea on Thu Feb 14 14:12:21 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  I totally agree. But ezhuthumpOthu suthi vaLaikkAma, nEradiyA - paragraphs, illEnna point formla konjam neat'a ezhuthunA padikkiRathukk aarvam varum. adhathAn solla vanthEn

  
  
  <Digr>
  
  Awesome!
  
  * Write in paragraphs...
  
  * Have Summaries at the end...
  
  * Have bullet points for aid...
  
  Reminds me of my English Composition/Essay Writing Classes...
  
  <Digr>
  
  

• From: joe on Thu Feb 14 14:17:33 2008.

  Bay
  
  But that makes teachers to really read and evaluate and here to read fully with insterest.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 14 14:19:55 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  It would have been nice of them if there are some "BOTTOMLINE message" in those posts so that we can just read that at least, and get the message!

  
  
  You mean something like the taglines of tamil movies nowadays? "Kaalai - There is no substitute". We don't have to think twice and we can walk away if we see theaters showing Kaalai even from long distance. Something like that?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 14 16:03:10 2008.

  m_23_bayarea wrote:

  Roshan wrote: I totally agree. But ezhuthumpOthu suthi vaLaikkAma, nEradiyA - paragraphs, illEnna point formla konjam neat'a ezhuthunA padikkiRathukk aarvam varum. adhathAn solla vanthEn <Digr> Awesome! * Write in paragraphs... * Have Summaries at the end... * Have bullet points for aid... Reminds me of my English Composition/Essay Writing Classes... <Digr>

  
  
  i thot we follow that even in offices today......i cant imagine how much my manager will bark if i send him a mail that is bigger than 10 lines
  
  Roshan, i'm with u - but best thing to do with long posts is -just read some points - and do not reply to such posts - cos u have not read it fully......then when others reply - u get an idea wat was the long post all about
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Thu Feb 14 16:09:00 2008.

  Ennatha lengthy posts, ennatha
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Feb 14 23:46:59 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  i thot we follow that even in offices today......i cant imagine how much my manager will bark if i send him a mail that is bigger than 10 lines

  
  
  You have to follow it most of the time as it is part of 'effective communication'.
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Roshan, i'm with u - but best thing to do with long posts is -just read some points - and do not reply to such posts - cos u have not read it fully......then when others reply - u get an idea wat was the long post all about

  
  
  ithathAn inga pala pEr paNNittu irukkAnga
  
  

• From: Wibha on Thu Feb 14 23:48:42 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Roshan, i'm with u - but best thing to do with long posts is -just read some points - and do not reply to such posts - cos u have not read it fully......then when others reply - u get an idea wat was the long post all about ithathAn inga pala pEr paNNittu irukkAnga

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 20 0:17:49 2008.

  Arya is still in Theni shooting for his ambitious film Njaan Kadavul with Bala. The young actor has created a new record for maintaining long hair and a beard for more than 600 days for the film!
  
  Njaan Kadavul will be the most important film for Arya as the shooting will be wrapped up by March end. Bala, the director of the film has also created a record for maximum number of shooting days for a Tamil film, over 200 days!
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Wed Feb 20 1:52:00 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Arya is still in Theni shooting for his ambitious film Njaan Kadavul with Bala. The young actor has created a new record for maintaining long hair and a beard for more than 600 days for the film! Njaan Kadavul will be the most important film for Arya as the shooting will be wrapped up by March end. Bala, the director of the film has also created a record for maximum number of shooting days for a Tamil film, over 200 days!

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 3:57:31 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  
  
  edhukku evvalavu emotions?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 4:12:35 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: edhukku evvalavu emotions?

  
  
  Surya maadhiri Aarya'vum vazhandhaa nalla irukkum
  
  Illena ippadiththaan
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 4:37:03 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Surya maadhiri Aarya'vum vazhandhaa nalla irukkum Illena ippadiththaan

  
  
  padam varrathukku munnadiye mudivu panna mudiyuma?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 4:46:25 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Surya maadhiri Aarya'vum vazhandhaa nalla irukkum Illena ippadiththaan padam varrathukku munnadiye mudivu panna mudiyuma?

  
  
  Veli varumaaa
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 7:01:25 2008.

  ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 21 7:03:57 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku

  
  
  yaaa
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 21 7:07:10 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 21 8:17:55 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  இடியே பாய்ந்த பிறகு, வேல் எல்லாம் ஒன்றுமில்லை.

  

  selvakumar wrote:

  ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku

  இப்படி ஒரு பொதுநல நோக்கோட எழுதினா.....பெரிசா எழுதுறதா குற்றச்சாட்டு வேற.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 9:40:17 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: இடியே பாய்ந்த பிறகு, வேல் எல்லாம் ஒன்றுமில்லை. selvakumar wrote: ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku இப்படி ஒரு பொதுநல நோக்கோட எழுதினா.....பெரிசா எழுதுறதா குற்றச்சாட்டு வேற.

  
  eppavovathu periya post ezuthuna parava illa. aana ezhuthura onnu rendu postum sila pala paragraph la oduchunna, ellarum hub ah vittu odi poyiduvaanga
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Feb 21 10:03:25 2008.

  cha...nalladhukkE kaalamillai !
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 10:09:32 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  cha...nalladhukkE kaalamillai !

  
  unmai thaan !
  
  I think from here onwards, after seeing those lengthy posts our dear hubbers will be asking others in pollathavan karunas style
  
  "Ae padiyaen, inthaah nee padiyaen, machan nee padiyaen"
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 10:11:39 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Veli varumaaa

  
  
  Padam varamma enga pogum? methuvaa vanthaalum nalla varattume
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 10:15:13 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  ennappa... naanga ellam post pannathaan intha thread ae navarum pola irukku

  
  
  Don't worry Selva. Nalla vishayangal konjam methuva thaan vazhkkailla nagarum. Intha hubbum vidhivilakkallla
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Thu Feb 21 10:16:43 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Don't worry Selva. Nalla vishayangal konjam methuva thaan vazhkkailla nagarum. Intha hubbum vidhivilakkallla

  
  oh.. appadiya paarthu, methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Feb 21 10:22:34 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 21 11:54:43 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  oh.. appadiya paarthu, methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU

  
  
  Oh hO appadiya. vadai seiya thaan neram aaguthu, aana vadai senchu vachchu neram aagala irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren.
  
  Moththalla ingredients-la thappu panni ippa thaan correctta choose panni irukkaar.
  
  inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu kevalamaa, illa superaannu?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Feb 22 8:26:06 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: oh.. appadiya paarthu, methuvaa vanthu METHU VADAIYAI VIDA KEVALAMAA AAGIDA POGUTHU Oh hO appadiya. vadai seiya thaan neram aaguthu, aana vadai senchu vachchu neram aagala irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren. Moththalla ingredients-la thappu panni ippa thaan correctta choose panni irukkaar. inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu kevalamaa, illa superaannu?

  
  
  Yaarayo kuththi kaattura maadhiri theriyudhu----
  
  neenga sonna dialogue--ungalukke repeat
  
  inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu superaa, illa kevalamaanu?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 9:41:28 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Yaarayo kuththi kaattura maadhiri theriyudhu----

  
  
  Ithula suththi valaikka enna irukku? Just imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures And Bhavana too gone, that is good too So the cast is perfect now!
  
  

  sarna_blr wrote:

  inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu superaa, illa kevalamaanu?

  
  
  kevalamana padaththukku neraiya examples ennaala kodukka mudiyam, ungalukku kovam varum.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:39:48 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Oh hO appadiya. vadai seiya thaan neram aaguthu, aana vadai senchu vachchu neram aagala irandukkum ulla viththiyasam theriyumnu nenaikkiren. Moththalla ingredients-la thappu panni ippa thaan correctta choose panni irukkaar. inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu kevalamaa, illa superaannu?

  
  
  ippavum ingredients la thappu thaan kannu panni irukkaar... bala was forced to remove ajith since he had spent entire money given to him for his own sugams
  
  ajith mattum sila pala visayangala mattenu solli iruntha, bala platform la pitchai eduthukittu iruppar
  
  friendukkaaga panni koduthirukkaaar. bala va unga post ah paartha sirippaar and bala wasn't a FOOL then to go to ajith repeatedly
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:42:36 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  kevalamana padaththukku neraiya examples ennaala kodukka mudiyam, ungalukku kovam varum.

  
  engalaalayum kodukka mudiyum
  
  

  Quote:

  Ithula suththi valaikka enna irukku? Just imagine Ajith in those costumes and postures Banging Head And Bhavana too gone, that is good too Very Happy So the cast is perfect now!

  
  ippo aarya va antha costumes la paarthuttu ellarum ippadiya irukaanga.. ellarum thaan pannikittu irukaanga
  
  Yes... ajith won't look good in those costumes... not just him.. anyone else.. prob, bala might look great in that
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Fri Feb 22 13:45:22 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Yaarayo kuththi kaattura maadhiri theriyudhu----neenga sonna dialogue--ungalukke repeat inga thaana irukkapporam, padam varattum appuram pesalam, enna? athu superaa, illa kevalamaanu?

  
  
  mothalla... padam eduthu mudichi jan 26 varratha oru news vanthathu.. year engitta ketkatheenga
  
  ippo varalenna, athu SUTTA vadaiyaa illa SUDAATHA vadaiyaa
  
  tell me yaa... tell me
  
  ungaluku theriyaathaa.. ingredients la bala innum thapu thaan panni irukkaar. S A Rajkumar ai thaan mothalla book panni irunthaaraam.. piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga.
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Feb 22 15:11:07 2008.

  >>piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga<<
  
  பாலாவைத்திட்ட ராசாவை 'யாரோ ஒருத்தர்' ஆக்கணுமா? கொஞ்சம் ஓவர்.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Feb 22 15:23:26 2008.

  app_engine wrote:

  >>piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga<< பாலாவைத்திட்ட ராசாவை 'யாரோ ஒருத்தர்' ஆக்கணுமா? கொஞ்சம் ஓவர்.

  
  
  oh yes...........same goes for trying to cut Ajith to size for a lesser known Arya
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:34:41 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  ippavum ingredients la thappu thaan kannu panni irukkaar... bala was forced to remove ajith since he had spent entire money given to him for his own sugams

  
  
  "Bala was forced to replace ajith / ajith was forced to drop the project / Bala intentionally removed ajith / ajith intentionally walked out of the project / Bala spent all money for his own sugam / ajith spent all money for his own sugam" is not my concern. When the project was announced with ajith in the lead, I was like Then the heroine saga started, first Bhavana then meenakshi finally Pooja (she was good in Pattiyal). Somehow the project got the good cast itself finally.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  ajith mattum sila pala visayangala mattenu solli iruntha, bala platform la pitchai eduthukittu iruppar

  
  
  Bala will come back and prove even if he goes to streets. I don't think he will sit and whine.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  friendukkaaga panni koduthirukkaaar. bala va unga post ah paartha sirippaar and bala wasn't a FOOL then to go to ajith repeatedly.

  
  
  May be you know the whole episode better than me. But I do NOT want to know what happened as I am not interested in those stories at all. How well the project conceived on screen is my interest.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:45:55 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  engalaalayum kodukka mudiyum

  
  
  Bad films by Bala-va? Even if it is a bad film as you say, it should be better than ajith's bad films. Don't you think so?
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes... ajith won't look good in those costumes... not just him.. anyone else.. prob, bala might look great in that

  
  
  I can write worse by saying how bad ajith will look like in those postures, let me stop here.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Feb 22 23:57:08 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  mothalla... padam eduthu mudichi jan 26 varratha oru news vanthathu.. year engitta ketkatheenga

  
  
  ammaamaa, namma padam ellam sonna date-la release aaguthu paarunga
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  S A Rajkumar ai thaan mothalla book panni irunthaaraam.. piragu avar mattennu sonaathaala, yaaro oruthari book pannitaanga.

  
  
  Yes, ajith and SAR were booked first, that was a good combination, you know? They heard that Bala is the director, they assumed some new comer, but they didn't expect this Bala. When they came to know the guy who directed Sethu, Nanda, and PM is the director, they walked out of the project as they had some "precious" projects in their hands. Bala had no options but to settle with Raja and Arya.
  
  Are you happy?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:12:39 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  "Bala was forced to replace ajith / ajith was forced to drop the project / Bala intentionally removed ajith / ajith intentionally walked out of the project / Bala spent all money for his own sugam / ajith spent all money for his own sugam" is not my concern. When the project was announced with ajith in the lead, I was like Then the heroine saga started, first Bhavana then meenakshi finally Pooja (she was good in Pattiyal). Somehow the project got the good cast itself finally. Bala will come back and prove even if he goes to streets. I don't think he will sit and whine. May be you know the whole episode better than me. But I do NOT want to know what happened as I am not interested in those stories at all. How well the project conceived on screen is my interest.

  
  
  If that is with you, then it is fine.. Not everyone are like that and that is why
  
  enna kodumai ithu.. YOu want the project to be conceived well on screen and you feel that aarya is a better choice than ajith. Don't you feel this is contradictory. You feel that bala is such a great director that he can even make bad actors as good ones. Don't you feel that GOOD actors will become great actors and will suit the movie better than others.
  
  YOur logic is Like an S A RAJKUMAR can give a GREAT music than ILAYARAJA if bala works under him.. I think I should agree with you now since IR is giving maayakannadi and all.. So, obviously if he suits it, why not S A RAJKUMAR. NOw, you know who is a better choice
  
  Yes. Bala will certainly prove himself as a director. BUt that became possible only coz of ajith who obliged to rescue him out of the hussles by taking the MISS on his side ATha thaan kannu naan thelivaa sonnenae.
  
  Now, if bala is going to DIRECT this and other films then it will be due to AJITH and AJITH. No one else a
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:16:01 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Bad films by Bala-va? Even if it is a bad film as you say, it should be better than ajith's bad films. Don't you think so? I can write worse by saying how bad ajith will look like in those postures, let me stop here.

  
  Yes good compared to ajith film directors.. IT will be good compared to perarasu... but bad compared to many other good directors
  
  You can't write worse than this one : Arya looks better than what ajith would have Agreed with you then as well
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:37:21 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  ammaamaa, namma padam ellam sonna date-la release aaguthu paarunga

  
  aanaa sollikittae irukkamaattaanga paarunga
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sat Feb 23 1:39:24 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Yes, ajith and SAR were booked first, that was a good combination, you know? They heard that Bala is the director, they assumed some new comer, but they didn't expect this Bala. When they came to know the guy who directed Sethu, Nanda, and PM is the director, they walked out of the project as they had some "precious" projects in their hands. Bala had no options but to settle with Raja and Arya.

  
  Yes.. Since bala is a great director and IR is the worst compared to SAR Bala is keen on "bad to good" compared to "good to great". Hence, Arya and maayakannadi music director were chosen for the project You know They must have been chosen since they were lot more "BUSY"
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:23:00 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  YOu want the project to be conceived well on screen and you feel that aarya is a better choice than ajith. Don't you feel this is contradictory.

  
  
  hehehe, just see those stills, anyone will agree. And we will know for sure once the movie releases.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  You feel that bala is such a great director that he can even make bad actors as good ones. Don't you feel that GOOD actors will become great actors and will suit the movie better than others.

  
  
  Ofcourse, Arya is not a bad one either.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  YOur logic is Like an S A RAJKUMAR can give a GREAT music than ILAYARAJA if bala works under him.. I think I should agree with you now since IR is giving maayakannadi and all.. So, obviously if he suits it, why not S A RAJKUMAR. NOw, you know who is a better choice

  
  
  MDs and actors are in different leagues, your logic doesn't work . IR will not give maayakaanadi to Bala, we can expect another PM from him.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Bala will certainly prove himself as a director. BUt that became possible only coz of ajith who obliged to rescue him out of the hussles by taking the MISS on his side ATha thaan kannu naan thelivaa sonnenae. Now, if bala is going to DIRECT this and other films then it will be due to AJITH and AJITH. No one else

  
  
  Again and again, I don't want to hear and not interested in these personal stories.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:29:00 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes good compared to ajith film directors.. IT will be good compared to perarasu...

  
  
  Bala-voda bad films paththi naamellam pesakkoodathu., ennaa namma accountlaye neraiya irukku.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  You can't write worse than this one

  
  
  I think I can!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:30:45 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  aanaa sollikittae irukkamaattaanga paarunga

  
  
  namaa sollikittae irunthathillayaa enna?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Feb 23 3:36:34 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes.. Since bala is a great director and IR is the worst compared to SAR Bala is keen on "bad to good" compared to "good to great". Hence, Arya and maayakannadi music director were chosen for the project You know They must have been chosen since they were lot more "BUSY"

  
  
  Sila "precious" movies panrathukku bathila summa irukkalam.
  
  Ayyo paavam, ungala nenachcha paavama irukku.
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Feb 23 12:23:40 2008.

  when Selva hates bala for personal reasons ,he can just ignore him instead of posting pages and pages about him and his upcoming movie with prejudice.
  
  

• From: joe on Sat Feb 23 13:19:06 2008.

  I too don't like Arya so far ..But I am still expecting 'Naan kadavuL' just for Bala.
  
  Selva pesurathellam just because of his Erichel and Veruppu ,just because of the Ajith - Bala problem .
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Feb 23 14:02:03 2008.

  Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Sat Feb 23 14:04:59 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga

  
  
  Aamam pa ellarum ippothikku niruthikonga... 3yrs ku apparom padam release pothu pesikalaam...
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Feb 23 14:31:37 2008.

  <edited> ... Selva its high time you please quit posting in this thread. Let them celebrate that streetslickers film. Why should we give a damm about that rotten backstabbing *******. It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . Hope you understand and please continue your great work in Ajith related threads......
  

  MADDY wrote:

  Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga

  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 3:54:58 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  . It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. .

  
  
  Hope Selva and you guys understand that it irritates others when Selva keep on putting bala and Perarasu in the same pedestal
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 3:55:59 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga

  
  
  
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Feb 24 4:17:02 2008.

  ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ
  
  பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்...
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 4:23:36 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்...

  
  
  படம் எப்படி வேண்டுமானாலும் ஆகலாம் .எனக்கு பிடிக்காமல் போனாலும் போகலாம் .அதற்காக பாலா பேரரசு ஆகிவிட மாட்டார்.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:40:14 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  hehehe, just see those stills, anyone will agree. And we will know for sure once the movie releases. Ofcourse, Arya is not a bad one either. MDs and actors are in different leagues, your logic doesn't work . IR will not give maayakaanadi to Bala, we can expect another PM from him. .

  
  
  I have seen the stills and I am sure on that once the movie releases too Arya isn't a bad one & contrary to other bala fans here, I have agreed on that too.. My POV was : He is Not a good one either. I really don't know why MDs and actors can't be in different leagues. If an audio fails to make an impression, we can't blame an actor. Similarly, if an actor fails to impress, we can't put the blame on the MD.
  
  

  Quote:

  Again and again, I don't want to hear and not interested in these personal stories.

  
  You were interested in hearing and thinking on these personal stories for YSR if I am not wrong. You were telling that vishal was bashing u1 in his attempt to praise HJ for Satyam. That was not personal Right Your REASONS to HATE ARR albums or his work is not PERSONAL.. I know that We both are one and the same in this (like how I am with bala)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:44:03 2008.

  Quote:

  Bala-voda bad films paththi naamellam pesakkoodathu., ennaa namma accountlaye neraiya irukku. Laughing

  
  
  Yes. Madhu, Maayakannaadi, Vallavan, Kedi etc
  
  

  Quote:

  I think I can!

  
  Thanks for the info. Me too
  
  

  Quote:

  namaa sollikittae irunthathillayaa enna?

  
  Irunthathu illa kannu. Atleast, the reasons were posted. Atleast, he didn't use others to earn money (Paramasivan)
  
  

  Quote:

  Sila "precious" movies panrathukku bathila summa irukkalam. Ayyo paavam, ungala nenachcha paavama irukku

  
  Appadiya.. Antha *precious* movies la MUSIC podaamalum sila per irukkalaam. Avangala support pannamalum sila per irukkalaam Ayoo paavaam neenga
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 5:49:35 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  <edited> ... Selva its high time you please quit posting in this thread. Let them celebrate that streetslickers film. Why should we give a damm about that rotten backstabbing *******. It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . Hope you understand and please continue your great work in Ajith related threads...... MADDY wrote: Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga

  
  Feddy,
  I am extremely sorry for that. Few want me to quit the arguement and few others don't want me to quit. But many are against it. Hence, let me prefer yours before leaving this thread
  
  MY POV :
  IF an comedy actor makes fun of your favorite actor, I normally bash them. Few others have done the same as well. If it is not against their actor, it is a COMEDY for them and they praise their COMEDY SKILLS. But if it is against their actor, they will get irritated and post against them. I don't apply these rules for separately for anyone. Be it Bala or any one
  
  MADDY,
  Agree with you. Reminded me chithappu comments in the tea stall (Paruthiveeran)
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 6:27:02 2008.

  Please don't club every bit of my comment with my *hatred on bala* thing. I posted against paruthiveeran as well. Ameer supported ajith and I would have praised that film had I applied the same rule for Bala too. Yes. MY hatred would have increased the intensity.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Sun Feb 24 7:03:54 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்...

  
  Onnum Aagaathu.
  
  Heard that NK script is an awesome one and thala was quite excited in doing the movie. All his struggles like acting with long hair in worthless movies went in vain. Due to reasons which we ajith fans know, he had to come out of the project, to rescue his director friend. All blame goes to one person
  
  NOW I FEEL that we shouldn't care on this movie and should stay away to let other interested parties to enjoy
  
  ALL THE BEST TO THE TEAM.. ( though I won't be watching this movie)
  
  Oru thiramaiyaana terrorist padam eduthaalum, padathin quality ah mattum paarpoem endru karuthudaya nanbargalukku mathiyil, naangal karuthil veru padugiroem Avvalavae
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 10:10:33 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  MADDY, Agree with you. Reminded me chithappu comments in the tea stall (Paruthiveeran)

  
  
  Nice to know it!
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 10:46:15 2008.

  joe wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: MADDY, Agree with you. Reminded me chithappu comments in the tea stall (Paruthiveeran) Nice to know it!

  
  
  joe, naa andha arthahhula sollala, adhu ungallukkum illa ........pls. dont take it to heart
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:12:16 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight

  
  
  If this thread goes to 3rd or 30th page, how big a deal it is? This is just a forum for a few people, not for the entire world. Chinnapulla thanamaa irukku, ithellaama perisa eduththukkarathu. Take 'Anjathey' thread, I bet it will not even cross 10 pages and it will go the underground in couple of days/weeks while some not-so-worthy threads will be on the first page for years, but who cares? The quality of movies like these speak for themselves and forum's first page won't represent/reflect it.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:14:17 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  ....இப்பவே கன்ன கட்டுதே...படம் வந்த அப்றம் என்ன ஆகுமோ பேச மாட்டேன் நான் பேச மாட்டேன்...

  
  
  neenga pesaama irukkaratha thaan paarpome
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 12:50:50 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  I have seen the stills and I am sure on that once the movie releases too Arya isn't a bad one & contrary to other bala fans here, I have agreed on that too.. My POV was : He is Not a good one either.

  
  
  Selva,
  
  Arya is not a great actor, that is everybody's view too. But he was good in AA and Pattiyal. Both are done by Vishnu. I believe if the director is good, he will come good on screen too, that is what happened so far. Bala's track record also proves the same. He is good in making an actor perform better on screen. So no complaint using Arya for his NK, he has made the right decision, IMO.
  
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  I really don't know why MDs and actors can't be in different leagues. If an audio fails to make an impression, we can't blame an actor. Similarly, if an actor fails to impress, we can't put the blame on the MD.

  
  
  ippa neenga enna solla varreeenga Looks like you got something wrong in what I said about MDs and actors.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  You were interested in hearing and thinking on these personal stories for YSR if I am not wrong. You were telling that vishal was bashing u1 in his attempt to praise HJ for Satyam.

  
  
  I never said Vishal bashed u1, just go to the appropriate thread and read again. I even said "may be we are reading too much of that article". And FYI I never went to any Vishal's threads to shout like you do. Because I am not into Yuvan's personal stories, and they don't both me Even if Vishal fights personally with Yuvan in future, I won't do that.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  That was not personal Right Your REASONS to HATE ARR albums or his work is not PERSONAL.. We both are one and the same in this (like how I am with bala)

  
  
  I think you are confusing urself with lot of stuff I don't like annachi's work just because he and IR had a big fight personally. Did they have any personal fights at all? I don't think so. So how come we are same? I think we are DIFFERENT.
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Sun Feb 24 12:54:38 2008.

  selva,
  why not create a new thread for DIrector Bala??
  
  that shud be a good idea..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Feb 24 13:05:59 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  Yes. Madhu, Maayakannaadi, Vallavan, Kedi etc

  
  
  Why bring IR and Yuvan into this picture Just to irritate me? ithukkellam irritate avomnu nenaicheeaya? ippa namma pesarathu Balavaiyum, ajithaiyum paththi. Lets wait for Bala's innings and see how he does it
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Quote: I think I can! Thanks for the info. Me too

  
  
  i never said you can't. But you said I can't. I answered I can. Why answering me for a question that didn't ask you in the first place?
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Irunthathu illa kannu. Atleast, the reasons were posted.

  
  
  ungallukku enna reasons post pannaa ok? sollunga post pannuvom. "Bala-vukku kaaichchal athanala chennaikku oru varam rest edukka vanthullaar"-nra maathiriyaa? Reasons therinchu namma enna seiya poram?
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  Atleast, he didn't use others to earn money (Paramasivan)

  
  
  vennaammpa intha ull vivagarangal
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sun Feb 24 15:45:14 2008.

  I wasnt talking about the Actor Arya there. I also watch his films. My favourites from him are Arindhum ariyamalum and Oram po. Infact i even said that i liked oram po in this very hub . It irked me to see people bashing ajith for the sake of Naan kadavul's so called director . That is what i couldnt tolerate and i was talking to selva only. Hope i cleared my point of view here.
  
  

  joe wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: . It irritates me to the core to see statements with Ajith and that #$%^&& compared in the same pedestal. . Hope Selva and you guys understand that it irritates others when Selva keep on putting bala and Perarasu in the same pedestal

  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 22:30:07 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  It irked me to see people bashing ajith for the sake of Naan kadavul's so called director .

  
  
  It is the otherway around ..Anyway Leave it.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 22:48:07 2008.

  can someone PM me on the conflict between ajith and bala?
  
  I do not support rogues, even if they have the best brains in the world.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 22:50:23 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  I do not support rogues, even if they have the best brains in the world.

  
  
  
  
  i think some ajith fan will PM u shortly
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 22:59:40 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  can someone PM me on the conflict between ajith and bala? I do not support rogues, even if they have the best brains in the world.

  
  
  Seems you already have come to the conclusion without knowing what has happened ..Good.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:02:04 2008.

  no joe, i havent.
  i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:06:19 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  no joe, i havent. i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too.

  
  
  I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director.
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Sun Feb 24 23:21:07 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  no joe, i havent. i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too.

  
  
  NOV bro check your PM..
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:29:40 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director.

  thats fine with me; we will remain as iru thuruvangal.
  
  as an eg: I will never accept/admire a known anti-tamil.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Feb 24 23:41:25 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  joe wrote: I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. thats fine with me; we will remain as iru thuruvangal. as an eg: I will never accept/admire a known anti-tamil.

  
  
  perfect NOV, i have seen the same ppl. bashing Maniratnam on a personal level since he was not able to speak proper tamil in one of interviews.........i have also seen the same ppl. bashing ARR and calling him a tamil drohi inspite of the fact, he talks flawless tamil ........
  
  ppl. who support bala here have their own set of prejudice and bias and they do attack their "non-favroties" on a personal/non-cinematic level.........its not that they are completely sealed from the personal side of artistes........
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:42:16 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  thats fine with me; we will remain as iru thuruvangal.

  
  
  
  
  

  Quote:

  as an eg: I will never accept/admire a known anti-tamil.

  
  
  Yeah..I am different in this ..eg ..IMO ,Cho is anti-tamil ,but still admire him as a journalist and for his satire.
  
  

• From: NOV on Sun Feb 24 23:47:48 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  ppl. who support bala here have their own set of prejudice and bias and they do attack their "non-favroties" on a personal/non-cinematic level.........its not that they are completely sealed from the personal side of artistes........

  the fact is maddy, there isnt anyone in this world who is completely neutral.
  everyone has their own set of bias and mostly opinions are based on thier own set of acceptances/non-acceptances.
  
  speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil.
  
  

• From: joe on Sun Feb 24 23:51:18 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil.

  
  
  I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Sun Feb 24 23:59:45 2008.

  joe wrote:

  NOV wrote: no joe, i havent. i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too. I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director.

  
  
  even from MGR to latest hero's have some bad/un acceptable qualities & we too know in what way they are bad...... but still we admire them for their on screen work
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 0:01:40 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  joe wrote: NOV wrote: no joe, i havent. i am quite open minded about it and dont mind a PM from you too. I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. even from MGR to latest hero's have some bad/un acceptable qualities & we too know in what way they are bad...... but still we admire them for their on screen work

  
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 0:04:54 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  even from MGR to latest hero's have some bad/un acceptable qualities & we too know in what way they are bad...... but still we admire them for their on screen work

  agreed.
  thats why i believe that we should treat artistes as artistes.
  
  but there is a whole world of difference between having some negative qualities and being a rogue.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 0:37:45 2008.

  joe wrote:

  ajithfederer wrote: It irked me to see people bashing ajith for the sake of Naan kadavul's so called director . It is the otherway around ..Anyway Leave it.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 0:54:00 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director.

  
  
  Me too.... Who cares if Bala is a rogue or a saint, all I care about him is how well he directs his movies.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:10:25 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  joe wrote: I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. Me too.... Who cares if Bala is a rogue or a saint, all I care about him is how well he directs his movies.

  
  
  Kozhayum--karpazhippum sidhu vittu azhagaaga sirppam vadiththaal--Ungalukku avar sirpiyaaga therivaar---
  Aanaal engalukko?
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:14:19 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: joe wrote: I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. Me too.... Who cares if Bala is a rogue or a saint, all I care about him is how well he directs his movies. Kozhayum--karpazhippum sidhu vittu azhagaaga sirppam vadiththaal--Ungalukku avar sirpiyaaga therivaar--- Aanaal engalukko?

  
  
  
  
  Yeah! You give more importance to kolai and kaRpaLippu of the maker when you see the siRpam ,but we give more importance to SiRpam .
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 25 1:18:18 2008.

  joe wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: MrJudge wrote: joe wrote: I think no need since I don't bother about that conflict ..Even if Bala is proved to be a rogue ,I will still admire him as a director. Me too.... Who cares if Bala is a rogue or a saint, all I care about him is how well he directs his movies. Kozhayum--karpazhippum sidhu vittu azhagaaga sirppam vadiththaal--Ungalukku avar sirpiyaaga therivaar--- Aanaal engalukko? Yeah! You give more importance to kolai and kaRpaLippu of the maker when you see the siRpam ,but we give more importance to SiRpam .

  
  
  Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite???
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:23:49 2008.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite???

  
  
  உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து .
  
  மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல!
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:28:04 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Thalafanz wrote: Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite??? உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல!

  
  
  Then title of this thread should have been as Naan Kadavul istead of Bala's Naan kadavul...,
  If u put as Bala's....... then 1st Bala will come into mind-----
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:33:08 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  joe wrote: Thalafanz wrote: Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite??? உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல! Then title of this thread should have been as Naan Kadavul istead of Bala's Naan kadavul..., If u put as Bala's....... then 1st Bala will come into mind-----

  
  
  என் சிற்றறிவுக்கு இது எட்டல்ல
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Mon Feb 25 1:35:46 2008.

  உன்மை. உங்களது கருத்து சிலருக்கு பொருந்தும். இன்னும் சிலருக்கு பொருந்தாது. அதைத்தான் நான் இங்கு சொல்ல வருகிறென்.
  இன்னும் ஒரு எடுதுக்காட்டு: நமக்கு உனவு தயாரிக்கும் அன்பரின் கரங்கல் சுத்தம் இல்லை என வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். அதனை அறிந்த நாம் அவருடய உனவை ருசிப்போமா???
  மீன்டும் சொல்கிறென். அது அவரவரைப் பொருத்தது.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:41:48 2008.

  Thalafanz wrote:

  உன்மை. உங்களது கருத்து சிலருக்கு பொருந்தும். இன்னும் சிலருக்கு பொருந்தாது. அதைத்தான் நான் இங்கு சொல்ல வருகிறென்.

  
  
  ஏற்றுக்கொள்ளுகிறேன்!
  
  

  Quote:

  இன்னும் ஒரு எடுதுக்காட்டு: நமக்கு உனவு தயாரிக்கும் அன்பரின் கரங்கல் சுத்தம் இல்லை என வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். அதனை அறிந்த நாம் அவருடய உனவை ருசிப்போமா???

  
  
  தவறான உதாரணம் சகோதரா!! சுத்தமில்லாத கரங்கள் தயாரிக்கும் உணவு நம்மை பாதிக்கும் .அதைப்பற்றி நாம் கவனம் கொள்ள வேண்டியது அவசியம் .. சிற்பத்தை ரசிக்கும் போது ,சிற்பியின் பின்புலம் நம்மை பாதிக்க வேண்டிய அவசியம் இல்லை ..சிற்பம் எவ்வளவு சிறப்பாக இருக்கிறது என்பது தான் முக்கியம் .. அதே போல சாப்பாடு எவ்வளவு சுத்தமாய் இருக்கிறது என்பது முக்கியம் .அதற்கு சமைப்பவர் சுத்தமாக இருக்க இருக்க வேண்டுமே தவிர ,அவர் நல்லவரா கெட்டவரா ,யோக்கியரா என்பது நமக்கு முக்கியமில்லை
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 1:47:50 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Thalafanz wrote: Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite??? உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல!

  
  
  Best example:
  
  vairamuthu in kadhal mannan song:
  
  kavi kannadasan poal thanni adithal kavidhai varuma kazhudhaikku
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 1:49:24 2008.

  joe wrote:

  NOV wrote: speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil. I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'.

  
  
  
  Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 1:53:35 2008.

  joe wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: joe wrote: Thalafanz wrote: Well Joe bro... Some people just couldn't take it as the maker comes to mind everytime they see the sirpam...Rite??? உண்மை சகோதரா! .ஆனால் ஒரு கலைஞனை எடை போடும் போது அவன் கலைப்படைப்பின் தரத்தை வைத்து தான் எடை போட வேண்டுமே தவிர , நாம் நிச்சயமாக அறியாத அவனுடைய சொந்த வாழ்க்கையையோ அல்லது அவனது தனிப்பட்ட குணநலன்களையோ வைத்து மட்டும் எடை போடக்கூடாது ..அப்படியே அவன் சொந்த வாழ்க்கையில் நல்லவனாக இல்லாதிருந்தாலும் ,அவனின் கலையின் நிமித்தம் அவனைப் பாராட்டுவதில் மாற்றம் இருக்க முடியாது .. என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து . மாற்றுக்கருத்து இருக்கலாம் .எனக்கு அது ஏற்புடையதல்ல! Then title of this thread should have been as Naan Kadavul istead of Bala's Naan kadavul..., If u put as Bala's....... then 1st Bala will come into mind----- என் சிற்றறிவுக்கு இது எட்டல்ல

  
  
  இட்லி சாப்பிட்டேன் ---ஒன்றும் தோன்றாது
  மல்லிப்பூ இட்லி சாப்பிட்டேன்---மதுரை நினைவுக்கு வரும்
  தட்டே இட்லி சாப்பிட்டேன்---மைசூர் நினைவுக்கு வரும்
  குஷ்பு இட்லி சாப்பிட்டேன்---________ நினைவுக்கு வரும்
  
  புரிகிறதா--தங்களுடய சிற்றறிவுக்கு...
  
  பின்குறிப்பு:- இப்படி எழுதியதற்கு என்னை மன்னியுங்கள்
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 1:55:56 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  joe wrote: NOV wrote: speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil. I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'. Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have.

  
  
  Pls read my all previous arguements before come to the conclusion ..I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work ..One person can be a worst man personally (IMO ,I don't mind since he is not known personally to me) ,but he can be a good aritst ... Don't rate his art with your personal dislike of person ...We are discussing here about art ,not the person.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 1:56:36 2008.

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• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 2:04:05 2008.

  
  
  Thilak, font size perusu pannunga...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 2:04:36 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Roshan wrote: joe wrote: NOV wrote: speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil. I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'. Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have. Pls read my all previous arguements before come to the conclusion ..I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work ..One person can be a worst man personally (IMO ,I don't mind since he is not known personally to me) ,but he can be a good aritst ... Don't rate his art with your personal dislike of person ...We are discussing here about art ,not the person.

  
  
  That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 2:06:18 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Thilak, font size perusu pannunga...

  
  
  I tried..
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 2:07:40 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  joe wrote: Roshan wrote: joe wrote: NOV wrote: speaking of which Joe, I disagree and don't accept your view that Cho is anti-Tamil. I know it ,That is why I put 'IMO'. Neenga Cho'va thamizh thrOgi or anti-thamizh'nu solRathu sound 'very personal' to some others. Antha mAthirithAn Selva'voda opinion'um. Bias illAtha aaLunga yArumE illa. Selva has the freedom, choice, right and liberty to express his opinions based on his views about the person or his work as much as you have. Pls read my all previous arguements before come to the conclusion ..I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work ..One person can be a worst man personally (IMO ,I don't mind since he is not known personally to me) ,but he can be a good aritst ... Don't rate his art with your personal dislike of person ...We are discussing here about art ,not the person. That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu.

  
  
  Athu Sari ! I should be the one misunderstood this forum is to discuss about ART...Mannikavum
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Mon Feb 25 2:13:49 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Athu Sari ! I should be the one misunderstood this forum is to discuss about ART...Mannikavum

  
  
  on a lighter note:
  
  mannippu...... thamizh-la engalukku pidikkadha varthai..... adhanale English-la sorry-nu sollunga
  
  (not necessary to ask sorry )
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 2:16:28 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  joe wrote: Athu Sari ! I should be the one misunderstood this forum is to discuss about ART...Mannikavum on a lighter note: mannippu...... thamizh-la engalukku pidikkadha varthai..... adhanale English-la sorry-nu sollunga (not necessary to ask sorry )

  
  
  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 2:50:24 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  joe wrote: Athu Sari ! I should be the one misunderstood this forum is to discuss about ART...Mannikavum on a lighter note: mannippu...... thamizh-la engalukku pidikkadha varthai..... adhanale English-la sorry-nu sollunga (not necessary to ask sorry )

  
  
  mannibbhu.....dhamil'la engalukku bidikkaadha vaardhai.........
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Feb 25 2:55:39 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu.

  
  Joe's argument is it is wrong to come down on a work of an art because you disagree the artist lacks moral fibre - so to speak.
  That is a poor basis to judge the work. That is what Joe has been saying. It is not a 'perception' that he is unfairly demanding but a fair basis of judgement.
  
  But then I don't agree with Joe completely as Selva has made arguments about why exactly he didn't like Bala's earlier works and has been crying hoarse that he did diss even Ameer's film -even though Ameer supported Ajith.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:02:06 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Roshan wrote: That's your own perception but you cannot expect every body to go in line with your thoughts. UngaLukku bala'voda personal side mukkiyam illAma irukkalAm mathavangaLukku adhu mukkiyamA irukkum, irukkalAm. Athu ungaLukku yERpudaiyathAga illAmal irukkalAm athaRkaaga matthavanga neenga sinthikkiRa mAthiri sinthinkkanumnu 'demand' paNNuRathu thappu. Joe's argument is it is wrong to come down on a work of an art because you disagree the artist lacks moral fibre - so to speak. That is a poor basis to judge the work. That is what Joe has been saying. It is not a 'perception' that he is unfairly demanding but a fair basis of judgement. But then I don't agree with Joe completely as Selva has made arguments about why exactly he didn't like Bala's earlier works and has been crying hoarse that he did diss even Ameer's film -even though Ameer supported Ajith.

  
  
  Puriyalaye?
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:11:35 2008.

  "moral fibre" is relative.
  crime is not.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:14:17 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not.

  
  
  konjam thelivaa?
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:24:22 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  konjam thelivaa?

  kissing onscreen is relative. some ppl may say its alright while others may not like it.
  
  slapping an actress is a crime; no two opinions on that.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:26:38 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: konjam thelivaa? kissing onscreen is relative. some ppl may say its alright while others may not like it. slapping an actress is a crime; no two opinions on that.

  
  
  Slapping onscreen---crime'aaa?
  
  puriyalaye?
  
  

• From: Munsamy on Mon Feb 25 3:27:23 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: konjam thelivaa? kissing onscreen is relative. some ppl may say its alright while others may not like it. slapping an actress is a crime; no two opinions on that.

  
  
  I understand that u r refering to some slapping incidents in the sets (Ex. padmapriya-samy) and not the slapping on screen.
  Pls clarify
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Feb 25 3:30:48 2008.

  of course I am refering to real-life slapping
  but I also do not condone onscreen manhandling of women too
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 3:48:07 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  kavi kannadasan poal thanni adithal kavidhai varuma kazhudhaikku

  
  
  Kannadasan is the best example. He sinned every way possible but still his works are/will be the best in tamil film history. Just because he had bad habits, we can't dig at his personal life and ignore his works.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 3:59:24 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: kavi kannadasan poal thanni adithal kavidhai varuma kazhudhaikku Kannadasan is the best example. He sinned every way possible but still his works are/will be the best in tamil film history. Just because he had bad habits, we can't dig at his personal life and ignore his works.

  
  
  Thanni adippadhu kutramo?
  
  namadhu naattil, 90% aadavar , thanni adippar....
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 4:04:41 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not.

  
  And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 4:08:23 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  NOV wrote: "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not. And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov?

  
  
  Ippa vera example:-
  
  Kidney thirudura hospitalla, vaithyam paaththaa vyaadhi kaanaama poyidum(kidney'um)'ngradhukkaaga, andha hospital dhaan best'nu solveengalaa?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 4:08:53 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Thanni adippadhu kutramo? namadhu naattil, 90% aadavar , thanni adippar....

  
  
  He was a womenizer too... now don't come and say that is the case with majority of aaddvars too
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 4:27:52 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  of course I am refering to real-life slapping but I also do not condone onscreen manhandling of women too

  
  
  Everybody know that a crime is condemnable.
  
  but NOV ,I am seriously asking...
  
  Balumahendra was alleged to the reason for Shoba's death ..Does it make you to dis-credit balu's works?
  
  Thiyagaraja Bhagavathar and Kalaivaanar NSK got jailed in a muder case ..does that make you feel they are less talented ?
  
  NadigaveL M.R.Radha was jailed for shooting MGR ..Does that make you underestimate and hate MR Radha's acting ?
  
  I am curious
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 4:30:15 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  equanimus wrote: NOV wrote: "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not. And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov? Ippa vera example:- Kidney thirudura hospitalla, vaithyam paaththaa vyaadhi kaanaama poyidum(kidney'um)'ngradhukkaaga, andha hospital dhaan best'nu solveengalaa?

  
  Sarna_blr,
  It depends on what "kidney" is. The way I see it, "viyAdhi" here is my film-watching disease. (Incidentally, it was Truffaut who said that, "[f]ilm lovers are sick people." ) Bala's personal tiffs (which you analogize to "stealing kidneys"), legal (criminal) or otherwise, will not worsen this disease of mine. Or so I believe.
  Moreover, I think your analogy will make sense only if "loss of kidney" is not to be considered a "viyAdhi" by itself, while it very much is (or so it is thought of as, in general).
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 4:36:08 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: equanimus wrote: NOV wrote: "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not. And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov? Ippa vera example:- Kidney thirudura hospitalla, vaithyam paaththaa vyaadhi kaanaama poyidum(kidney'um)'ngradhukkaaga, andha hospital dhaan best'nu solveengalaa? Sarna_blr, It depends on what "kidney" is. The way I see it, "viyAdhi" here is my film-watching disease. (Incidentally, it was Truffaut who said that, "[f]ilm lovers are sick people." ) Bala's personal tiffs (which you analogize to "stealing kidneys"), legal (criminal) or otherwise, will not worsen this disease of mine. Or so I believe. Moreover, I think your analogy will make sense only if "loss of kidney" is not to be considered a "viyAdhi" by itself, while it very much is (or so it is thought of as, in general).

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Feb 25 4:37:04 2008.

  NOV, while your anti-actor-slapping stand is commendable, I am disheartened that you will be ignoring many of the best directors, like Bharathiraja.
  
  How does slapping-assistants go down with you ? If that is out then I guess you are down to a precious few films.
  
  If swearing-at-them is abuse enough according to you, then I am afraid things are pretty bad on the available-entertainment front, till The People for Ethical Treatment of People gain some clout in the film industry.
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:12:06 2008.

  hi everybody,
  
  that's an interesting discussion - pls keep going
  
  jus one thing - even I am an admirer of Bala's works. I think he is one of those few directors who makes films with least flaws.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:16:00 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  hi everybody, that's an interesting discussion - pls keep going jus one thing - even I am an admirer of Bala's works. I think he is one of those few directors who makes films with least flaws.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 6:28:42 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  equanimus wrote: sarna_blr wrote: equanimus wrote: NOV wrote: "moral fibre" is relative. crime is not. And, there are laws and a legal process to handle that? When a filmmaker makes a film, it's just his film that's available to us. Nothing more, nothing less. what is the "absoluteness" that you want to bring out in your caveat notes, Nov? Ippa vera example:- Kidney thirudura hospitalla, vaithyam paaththaa vyaadhi kaanaama poyidum(kidney'um)'ngradhukkaaga, andha hospital dhaan best'nu solveengalaa? Sarna_blr, It depends on what "kidney" is. The way I see it, "viyAdhi" here is my film-watching disease. (Incidentally, it was Truffaut who said that, "[f]ilm lovers are sick people." ) Bala's personal tiffs (which you analogize to "stealing kidneys"), legal (criminal) or otherwise, will not worsen this disease of mine. Or so I believe. Moreover, I think your analogy will make sense only if "loss of kidney" is not to be considered a "viyAdhi" by itself, while it very much is (or so it is thought of as, in general).

  
  illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:28:44 2008.

  there's nothing funny in my statement sarna_blr
  
  can u deny his perfection when it comes to film-making leave alone his attitude.....
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:30:48 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."

  
  
  &
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:34:16 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  
  illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."[/quote]
  
  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:41:15 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  there's nothing funny in my statement sarna_blr can u deny his perfection when it comes to film-making leave alone his attitude.....

  
  
  few directors who makes films with least flaws.
  
  Ayyo ayyo---
  
  Chinna exaample----
  
  Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram.......
  
  Oru paana soththukku oru soru padham........
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:41:24 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Balumahendra was alleged to the reason for Shoba's death ..Does it make you to dis-credit balu's works? Thiyagaraja Bhagavathar and Kalaivaanar NSK got jailed in a muder case ..does that make you feel they are less talented ? NadigaveL M.R.Radha was jailed for shooting MGR ..Does that make you underestimate and hate MR Radha's acting ?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:46:18 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  joe wrote: Balumahendra was alleged to the reason for Shoba's death ..Does it make you to dis-credit balu's works? Thiyagaraja Bhagavathar and Kalaivaanar NSK got jailed in a muder case ..does that make you feel they are less talented ? NadigaveL M.R.Radha was jailed for shooting MGR ..Does that make you underestimate and hate MR Radha's acting ?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Roshan on Mon Feb 25 6:46:50 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  equanimus wrote: illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient." &

  
  
  Mothathula intha thread'a ellArumA sErnthu comedy thread aakkiteenga
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 6:47:23 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  NOV, while your anti-actor-slapping stand is commendable, I am disheartened that you will be ignoring many of the best directors, like Bharathiraja.

  
  
  Yes, Bharathiraja slaps every new face if he doesn't get the desired result and KB scolds everyone for the same reason. I still believe it is unacceptable on the moral ground, but didn't we accept and enjoyed their works and placed them on top of the industry for a few years?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:49:28 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: NOV, while your anti-actor-slapping stand is commendable, I am disheartened that you will be ignoring many of the best directors, like Bharathiraja. Yes, Bharathiraja slaps every new face if he doesn't get the desired result and KB scolds everyone for the same reason. I still believe it is unacceptable on the moral ground, but didn't we accept and enjoyed their works and placed them on top of the industry for a few years?

  
  
  So what---
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 6:55:04 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Ayyo ayyo--- Chinna exaample---- Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram....... Oru paana soththukku oru soru padham........

  
  
  I told u, films with least flawless, not flawless films ( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon
  
  vidunga...balavukkum adi sarukkum.....but on the whole, his works are gripping....
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 6:58:34 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Ayyo ayyo--- Chinna exaample---- Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram....... Oru paana soththukku oru soru padham........ I told u, films with least flawless, not flawless films ( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon vidunga...balavukkum adi sarukkum.....but on the whole, his works are gripping....

  
  
  Idhu maadhiri neraya examples irukku---andha padaththula...,
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Feb 25 7:01:05 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  So what---

  
  
  Leave their personal problems to themselves and enjoy their works if you like. That is the bottomline of the story.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 7:06:05 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Chinna exaample---- Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram.......

  
  Good point! (Even if it's a throwaway bit.) And, there are more than just a few scenes where Siththan's behavior seem to follows a very literalistic model, where he's made to behave differently (exclusively, even) and his "specialness" is brought out rather expositively and untiringly. I invite these sort of polemics or critiques on Bala's films.
  As for me, the film (and even the characterization) struck many right chords beyond these glaringly inconsistent notes. I love the quieter moments of Siththan, and there's no dearth of them actually. The way he reacts to the death of his foster father (a moving sequence where we realise the protagonist now has no one left around him, but he himself doesn't exactly "see" it the way we do), the way he stares through the train window and presses himself over it, trying to see the full view from one end to the other, the way he's irked at everyone around laughing at him when he forces himself out of the blanket even as they try to "tame" him.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 7:12:02 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Ayyo ayyo--- Chinna exaample---- Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram....... Oru paana soththukku oru soru padham........ I told u, films with least flawless, not flawless films ( tappichitenda samy ...) probably its his first time in a saloon vidunga...balavukkum adi sarukkum.....but on the whole, his works are gripping....

  
  
  Kamal Sir nadichcha sippikkula muthu ( padththoda pear gnabagaththil illai)
  
  Adhula kamal sir'ku oru vela vaangiththarEnu oru periyavar solluvaar--udane namma Kamal sir andha periyavar engey ponaalum pinnaadiye povaar........
  Adhey scene -pathaamagan'la
  Sangeetha saappaadu poduvaaa
  udane Vikram pinnaalaye povaar--even walking style will be copied from Kamal sir
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 7:14:44 2008.

  Exactly. That's what I've been trying to arrive at about Balas works. He generally pays more attention to small details in a scene. eg. In Sethu, when they carry Vikram in a stretcher to the ambulance while going to the asylum, his dhoti will be parted ( it's a top angle shot). His anni will adjust his dhoti in a casual way. That a small scene, but still you can enjoy it for its sheer perfection.
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 7:24:33 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Kamal Sir nadichcha sippikkula muthu ( padththoda pear gnabagaththil illai) Adhula kamal sir'ku oru vela vaangiththarEnu oru periyavar solluvaar--udane namma Kamal sir andha periyavar engey ponaalum pinnaadiye povaar........ Adhey scene -pathaamagan'la Sangeetha saappaadu poduvaaa udane Vikram pinnaalaye povaar--even walking style will be copied from Kamal sir

  
  
  of course, nalla vishayangalai engirundhu vena edukkalam. even kamal has said in an interview that he got his inspiration for Chappani character from a Spanish film. (idhu eppadi irukku ?)
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Feb 25 7:29:15 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Kamal Sir nadichcha sippikkula muthu ( padththoda pear gnabagaththil illai) Adhula kamal sir'ku oru vela vaangiththarEnu oru periyavar solluvaar--udane namma Kamal sir andha periyavar engey ponaalum pinnaadiye povaar........ Adhey scene -pathaamagan'la Sangeetha saappaadu poduvaaa udane Vikram pinnaalaye povaar--even walking style will be copied from Kamal sir of course, nalla vishayangalai engirundhu vena edukkalam. even kamal has said in an interview that he got his inspiration for Chappani character from a Spanish film. (idhu eppadi irukku ?)

  
  
  ofcourse---aana ennoda sondha karpanainu sollakkoodaadhu
  
  

• From: dinesh13284 on Mon Feb 25 7:50:04 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Kamal Sir nadichcha sippikkula muthu ( padththoda pear gnabagaththil illai) Adhula kamal sir'ku oru vela vaangiththarEnu oru periyavar solluvaar--udane namma Kamal sir andha periyavar engey ponaalum pinnaadiye povaar........ Adhey scene -pathaamagan'la Sangeetha saappaadu poduvaaa udane Vikram pinnaalaye povaar--even walking style will be copied from Kamal sir of course, nalla vishayangalai engirundhu vena edukkalam. even kamal has said in an interview that he got his inspiration for Chappani character from a Spanish film. (idhu eppadi irukku ?)

  appadi onnum theriyala.. ungaloda information reliable sources kitta irunthu kedachatha?
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Mon Feb 25 8:02:14 2008.

  Yes. Kamal himself has said this in a TV interview (romba naalaikku munnadi..)
  
  Infact, I even remember him saying, it's an " Irish Chappani " (sorry..not Spanish... ). Otherwise, this info is true.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 13:14:57 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."

  
  
  will this mean, s/w companies should stick to the employees having terror links??? recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... .....
  
  also, the complaints here abt Bala are not entirely personal........i mean, i'm not complaining that he is a ganja party, he shuld be stoned or he is the one who caused this/that heroines' death..........the complaint here is messing up schedules for a upcoming super*, making him reject some precious offers during this time, and mishandling the relieving process of the Hero from a project...........i also think, Ajith incurred loss as he was forced to return advance money, which is not reqd., in case of pull outs......arent these professional mistakes from Bala?? ....
  
  when terrorism demands job sacking/condemning, Bala's acts deserves condemn from Ajith's fans, which is perfectly professional and not personal.........
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Mon Feb 25 13:48:11 2008.

  One last post from me in this thread
  Maddy your argument is great but lets leave it here. Glad to see you supporting ajiths fan cause here.
  
  Neenga enna sonnalum inge pandithargal edho oru badhil vechirupaanga .. Why do u waste your time and energy. Please concentrate on something else which is useful . Its futile to talk about certain things in this thread. Hope you understand what i mean
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  equanimus wrote: illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient." will this mean, s/w companies should stick to the employees having terror links??? recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... ..... also, the complaints here abt Bala are not entirely personal........i mean, i'm not complaining that he is a ganja party, he shuld be stoned or he is the one who caused this/that heroines' death..........the complaint here is messing up schedules for a upcoming super*, making him reject some precious offers during this time, and mishandling the relieving process of the Hero from a project...........i also think, Ajith incurred loss as he was forced to return advance money, which is not reqd., in case of pull outs......arent these professional mistakes from Bala?? .... when terrorism demands job sacking/condemning, Bala's acts deserves condemn from Ajith's fans, which is perfectly professional and not personal.........

  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Feb 25 14:08:17 2008.

  Feddy,
  
  It's unfortunate that you guys lost respect for Bala. Don't know about others, but I've liked his films, and hence the voice for "his films". Moreover, I don't think anyone here(incl. myself) defended his action off-the-screen, which was really unprofessional, and disgraceful. That's all I have to say.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Feb 25 15:35:10 2008.

  [Digression]
  Maddy,
  No, it won't; because it's the company's prerogative to do whatever it feels like doing for its own interests. And, I don't think I spoke about any of the Ajith fans of not being "professional" (honestly, I don't even get what it means for a fan to be "professional"), for taking things "personally" or anything remotely close. In general, I intend to discuss films here with different people, not about the purported biases of fans of different filmmakers/actors. That sort of discussion bores me; watching 'Rashomon' one more time would do a lot of good for me instead.
  
  Of course, I don't care a hoot about Bala the person, leave aside his professional ethics. Much as we tend to assume everyday how "good" various celebrities/artists we know/like are, the truth is that we hardly know about them. I don't intend to affiliate myself in any way to the personal lives of the various artists whose works I've come to like. Roman Polanski was charged guilty of raping a minor, but he also made 'The Pianist.' Such is life, I think. And, I think I'd stick to my position that these sort of stuff don't matter to me.
  
  Ajithfederer,
  I don't want to come off as a "paNdithar" here. (If the paragraph above serves as any indication.) I don't have much idea about the problems that Bala has caused to Ajith or anyone else. I know very little which I got to know through the mainstream media and a friend; never got to know a good deal about the issue. As seems to be the norm here, a PM from any of you folks is welcome. Not that I want to judge things based on that, but I'm curious to know.
  [End digression]
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 20:27:24 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  [Digression] Maddy, No, it won't; because it's the company's prerogative to do whatever it feels like doing for its own interests. And, I don't think I spoke about any of the Ajith fans of not being "professional" (honestly, I don't even get what it means for a fan to be "professional"), for taking things "personally" or anything remotely close. In general, I intend to discuss films here with different people, not about the purported biases of fans of different filmmakers/actors. That sort of discussion bores me; watching 'Rashomon' one more time would do a lot of good for me instead. Of course, I don't care a hoot about Bala the person, leave aside his professional ethics. Much as we tend to assume everyday how "good" various celebrities/artists we know/like are, the truth is that we hardly know about them. I don't intend to affiliate myself in any way to the personal lives of the various artists whose works I've come to like. Roman Polanski was charged guilty of raping a minor, but he also made 'The Pianist.' Such is life, I think. And, I think I'd stick to my position that these sort of stuff don't matter to me.

  
  
  equa/thilak, fans are not professional, ofcourse, but i'm reiterating that the complaints here on Bala are on completely professional lines, and not personal lines........it cannot be equated to child rape of Roman Polanski.............i think at the most, this can be equated to shankar's criminal waste of time/money...........if Shankar had spoiled someone's career/time, he wud have been equally bashed and is getting bashed already.......
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Feb 25 20:32:21 2008.

  ajithfederer wrote:

  Maddy your argument is great but lets leave it here. Glad to see you supporting ajiths fan cause here. Neenga enna sonnalum inge pandithargal edho oru badhil vechirupaanga .. Why do u waste your time and energy. Please concentrate on something else which is useful . Its futile to talk about certain things in this thread. Hope you understand what i mean

  
  
  feddy, unga aathangam puriyudhu...........there is a impression that we mix personal life with on screen works..........i'm a big fan of Bala's movies, but that doesent mean i will support his stupidity in cover of personal traits........also, did anyone other than PR, understand that selva has complaints even on sethu and nanda???? wat personal hatred wud selva carry on nanda/sethu???
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Feb 25 22:45:42 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... .....

  
  
  Good example ..But here comes 3 parties invlove
  
  1. S/w engineer
  2. S/w company
  3. User of the software
  
  S/w company may take action against s/w engineers for his irregularity and low moral ..But user of the software has nothing to do with it ..User of the software just worry about the quality of the application ,not about the personal ethics of the programmer who created software.
  
  Same way ,In cinema also ,there are 3 parties
  
  1. Cinema artits
  2. Cinema industry
  3. Cinema fan
  
  In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 1:21:00 2008.

  joe wrote:

  In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome.

  
  
  That's again for a rasigan like you, you cannot generalise the statement to every one by saying 'we have to'. That's my point even earlier. Personal'nu ivvaLava nALa accuse paNNeenga (many times I have seen you doing this with Selva), ippO vERa mAthiri pEsureenga. Every body has their own principles and policies. UngaLa mAthiri ellArum nenekkanumnu neenga ethirpArkka mudiyAthu.
  
  Feddy is right ! Let the so called 'pandithargaL' enjoy their discussions here.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 1:33:59 2008.

  Roshan,
  I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that.
  
  My poor english
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 1:35:12 2008.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... ..... Good example ..But here comes 3 parties invlove 1. S/w engineer 2. S/w company 3. User of the software S/w company may take action against s/w engineers for his irregularity and low moral ..But user of the software has nothing to do with it ..User of the software just worry about the quality of the application ,not about the personal ethics of the programmer who created software. Same way ,In cinema also ,there are 3 parties 1. Cinema artits 2. Cinema industry 3. Cinema fan In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome.

  
  
  Arisi enga velanjadhundradhu mukkiyam illa ungalukku---appadithaana
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 1:42:07 2008.

  joe wrote:

  Roshan, I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that.

  
  
  Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your posts to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion.
  
  Why blame your English? neenga thamizhlla idha vida strong'a accuse paNNittu iruntheenga.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 1:46:12 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  joe wrote: Roshan, I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that. Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your posts to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion..

  
  
  Let it be.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 1:46:49 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  joe wrote: Roshan, I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that. Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your post to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion. Why blame your English? neenga thamizhlla idha vida strong'a accuse paNNittu iruntheenga.

  
  
  sarcasm means----Witty language used to convey insults or scorn
  
  witty means---Combining clever conception and facetious expression
  
  scorn means ---Open disrespect for a person or thing
  
  Manmadha raani---edharkku ivvalavu kadumayaana thaakku?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 1:56:17 2008.

  joe wrote:

  MADDY wrote: recently a s/w company handed over their REC engr. employee (Karnataka) to police, most probably would have sacked him too.........i mean, y do they need to sack him, he is going to involve in terror activities in his leisure time, but we are concerned with his programming/troubleshooting skills, isnt it??? we shuld look at him purely as a S/W engineer and not as a terrorist, when it comes to work...... ..... Good example ..But here comes 3 parties invlove 1. S/w engineer 2. S/w company 3. User of the software S/w company may take action against s/w engineers for his irregularity and low moral ..But user of the software has nothing to do with it ..User of the software just worry about the quality of the application ,not about the personal ethics of the programmer who created software. Same way ,In cinema also ,there are 3 parties 1. Cinema artits 2. Cinema industry 3. Cinema fan In bala's case ,if Bala commited some mistakes in his profession ,it is industry problem and they should have concern about it ,not the cinema rasigan ..For cinema rasigan ,we have to rate only the outcome.

  
  
  the relationship betn s/w enggr and user is minimal, whereas cinema artsite and cinema fan equation is completely different..........tomm., if microsoft corp. gets caught for having terrorists in their offices, dont u think their sales will dip??? users cant just close their eyes on moral/ethics point and keep supporting good products from bad ppl..........
  
  unga analogy padiye, if one s/w enggr(bala) acts as a hindrance to other(ajith)'s product, who has a great following, dont u think its condemnable???
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Tue Feb 26 1:57:46 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Roshan wrote: joe wrote: Roshan, I missed to add 'IMO' in my statement ..sorry about that. Please try something else to display your so called sarcasm, as these kind of antics dont usually work with me. Your post to Selva - regarding Bala and Ajith issue dont make any difference whether you add IMO, IMHO or In my painfully humble opinion. Why blame your English? neenga thamizhlla idha vida strong'a accuse paNNittu iruntheenga. sarcasm means----Witty language used to convey insults or scorn witty means---Combining clever conception and facetious expression scorn means ---Open disrespect for a person or thing Manmadha raani---edharkku ivvalavu kadumayaana thaakku?

  
  
  Sarna bro, r u a walking dictionary???
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 2:02:10 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  the relationship betn s/w enggr and user is minimal, whereas cinema artsite and cinema fan equation is completely different..........tomm., if microsoft corp. gets caught for having terrorists in their offices, dont u think their sales will dip??? users cant just close their eyes on moral/ethics point and keep supporting good products from bad ppl..........

  
  
  Yeah ,now I realise it is different ,but in other way around ..Atleast the software user though have nothing to do with the programmer of the tool they purchased ,they atleast have legal connection ,so they may taken the authenticity in to consideration
  
  But for cinema fan ,even that authenticity is not required ,since it is just for entertainment ..as long as the product is entertainable ,they will go for it ,atleast it applies to me
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:02:36 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  i'm a big fan of Bala's movies, but that doesent mean i will support his stupidity in cover of personal traits........

  
  Maddy,
  Ain't this funny, this is all I've been saying here. Oh, come now, I wasn't (I think nobody did) supporting Bala's "stupidity" here!
  

  MADDY wrote:

  also, did anyone other than PR, understand that selva has complaints even on sethu and nanda???? wat personal hatred wud selva carry on nanda/sethu???

  
  Not only did I understand that, I was responding only to Selva's critique of Bala's films here! Because he put forth his criticisms in a way I can understand.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 2:04:32 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  unga analogy padiye, if one s/w enggr(bala) acts as a hindrance to other(ajith)'s product, who has a great following, dont u think its condemnable???

  
  
  Yes..It is condemnable .I will also condemn the person bala.
  
  But when I rate the product , I will not reduce my rating for director bala for that.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 2:19:16 2008.

  Maddy,
  
  I've never accused or even mentioned Ajith's name or the purported bias/preference from Ajith fans. Such line of argument doesn't concern me either. You could check the discourse I and Selva had, neither of us indulged in such accusations (which would have been futile anyway).
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 2:20:41 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Not only did I understand that, I was responding only to Selva's critique of Bala's films here! Because he put forth his criticisms in a way I can understand.

  
  
  Our comments crossed, same here...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 2:25:24 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Maddy, Ain't this funny, this is all I've been saying here. Oh, come now, I wasn't (I think nobody did) supporting Bala's "stupidity" here!

  
  
  then i dont quite understand y u used the hospital analogy to defend ur liking for bala......how it looks like now is - ok, bala is a great director, he makes great films, we will discuss it here............he is very unproffesional/wastes time/money of other artistes - are all personal traits which we shuldnt discuss here............come on, then why was Shankar bashing for making movies slowly and wasting lots of producers money allowed in HUB??........
  
  joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that..............
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Tue Feb 26 2:38:45 2008.

  that was really a worthy & serious discussion. you guys really proved that you are matured enough to discuss in this hub, by avoiding unnecessary and cheap comments. keep it up.
  
  btw, if only both thala & bala shed all their indifferences and join together to give us a big treat.... how many of you will welcome it ??? bcoz anything is possible in both cinema & politics.. isnt' it.
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Tue Feb 26 2:49:30 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that..............

  
  
  yes, i go with this point. when a creator/artist is not known to this world, he is both responsible & at the same time affected by his actions. but when he becomes popular, he belongs to the society and ought to have moral responsibilty without compromising his creativity. It's like walking on a razor's edge.
  
  Bcoz, knowingly or unknowingly he influences lots & lots of people.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:51:16 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Maddy, Ain't this funny, this is all I've been saying here. Oh, come now, I wasn't (I think nobody did) supporting Bala's "stupidity" here! then i dont quite understand y u used the hospital analogy to defend ur liking for bala......how it looks like now is - ok, bala is a great director, he makes great films, we will discuss it here............he is very unproffesional/wastes time/money of other artistes - are all personal traits which we shuldnt discuss here............

  
  I just said what my position is, borrowing the hospital analogy from Sarna_blr. (Hilarious one, I might add. ) When ever did I say we shouldn't discuss Bala's shady side here! (Heck, I don't have any opinion on what should be discussed in this thread and what shouldn't be. I even mess up with my judgement in tagging my posts as "digression.")
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  come on, then why was Shankar bashing for making movies slowly and wasting lots of producers money allowed in HUB??........

  
  I don't have anything to say about whether it should be allowed in the Hub or not. Nor have I criticized Shankar's films for making movies slowly or wasting lots of money.
  
  

  equanimus wrote:

  illayA pinnE? By the way, I never said Bala's is the best "hospital" around. It's a "hospital" I really like visiting. That's all. I've no idea whether the "doctor" over there ill-treats the "nurses" or "wardboys" who work for him, nor do I think it matters to me as a "patient."

  
  Taking off the analogy again, (as you can see above) I didn't defend the shady side of the "doctor" (filmmaker), but I was saying that as a "patient" (film lover), it doesn't matter to me. You feel it's rightful to bring that up too when we're discussing about his filmmaking, go right ahead! I totally understand.
  Like I said, I've responded only to Selva's critique of Bala's films here. After that, I wrote my next post only in response to Nov's note about "moral fibre," in which I didn't really understand his caveats he was putting forth.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 2:55:32 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that..............

  
  Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 3:06:46 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  MADDY wrote: joe, i like Bala's movies, i simply adore Sethu/Nandha movies for bringing in a new dimension to tamil movies , at the same time, i dont think i will sit quiet on such issues,..........he as a director has some flaws in managing the schedule/artistes/relieving process etc. and he definitely needs to be criticised........and i dont think this is a wrong place to do that.............. Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all.

  
  
  Me too ..I am not against criticism .. and here can critise bala for his work ethics as well as his product .
  
  I am only against degrading one's product just because of personal venjance or one particular incident .That is all.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 3:11:52 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all.

  
  
  exactly my point too............this thread should accomodate discussions on time management/call sheet management of Bala as much as his scenes/screenplays........to discard discussions on his mismanagement as taking things personally is not happening...........
  
  i also understand that ppl. who support bala's style of filmmaking are not neccessarily supporting his acts with Ajith........but to discard any discussion on this issue as personal is also not correct.......
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 3:15:35 2008.

  joe wrote:

  I am only against degrading one's product just because of personal venjance or one particular incident .That is all.

  
  
  criticisms on Bala have been on his management of things, which is pretty much on professional level..............if u want to discard all accusations on him as "personal vengance" - then wat can i say.......
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 3:22:04 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Oh, I didn't read this part of your post before. This is exactly what I've said in my previous post. I think I NEVER asked anyone to sit quiet on such issues. And, I NEVER said this is the wrong place to do that. That's all. exactly my point too............this thread should accomodate discussions on time management/call sheet management of Bala as much as his scenes/screenplays........to discard discussions on his mismanagement as taking things personally is not happening........... i also understand that ppl. who support bala's style of filmmaking are not neccessarily supporting his acts with Ajith........but to discard any discussion on this issue as personal is also not correct.......

  
  
  Correct !! and in other words - people do not have to think it's all personal when his 'product' is criticised.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 3:56:32 2008.

  Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies.
  As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights.
  
  I was reminded of an anecdote that seemed very topical :
  When Gulshan Kumar was shot a few months, the famous music director Nadeem of the Nadeem-Shravan was under the radar for possible links with the underworld and was suspected of having a direct hand in the murder.
  
  Pardes songs were making waves around that time. A relative and I were listening to "Do dil" from Pardes when he remarked: "kolagaarappaavi......evvaLo azhaga paattu pOttirukkaan"
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Tue Feb 26 3:57:38 2008.

  யெப்பா புண்ணியவான்களே முடிஞ்சதா உங்க பஞ்சாயத்து
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 4:04:09 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies. As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights. I was reminded of an anecdote that seemed very topical : When Gulshan Kumar was shot a few months, the famous music director Nadeem of the Nadeem-Shravan was under the radar for possible links with the underworld and was suspected of having a direct hand in the murder. Pardes songs were making waves around that time. A relative and I were listening to "Do dil" from Pardes when he remarked: "kolagaarappaavi......evvaLo azhaga paattu pOttirukkaan"

  
  
  Prabhu, to be honest I see Vivek's style here But I know this is not the right idam, poruL, sEval to quote Vivek Anyway, thanks for lightening up this place
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 4:21:55 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies. As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights.

  
  "moral fibre" 'a ellAm menakettu izhuthuttu, ippadi exit AgakkUdAdhu!
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  I was reminded of an anecdote that seemed very topical : When Gulshan Kumar was shot a few months, the famous music director Nadeem of the Nadeem-Shravan was under the radar for possible links with the underworld and was suspected of having a direct hand in the murder. Pardes songs were making waves around that time. A relative and I were listening to "Do dil" from Pardes when he remarked: "kolagaarappaavi......evvaLo azhaga paattu pOttirukkaan"

  
  You mean, 'kolaignar'?
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 4:35:28 2008.

  PR,
  "அதை ஒரு ஓநாயா இருந்து பார்த்தாதான் தெரியும்" என்று சொல்லாமல் சொல்கிறீர்களா ?
  
  ஓநாயா பார்க்குறது எல்லாம் மத்தவங்களுக்கு மட்டும் தானோ, நமக்கு என்று வரும்போது கிடையாதோ !
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 4:47:06 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies. As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights.

  
  
  oh yea, i forgot we just cared abt the product - we will go ga-ga over Bill Gates' Microsoft but no, we wont listen to Scott Mcnealy(Sun) cries of foul that Bill is a thief.........because operating microsoft product is just as easy as violating colombian human rights - oops drinking coke......and yea, complaints against Bill gates and windows products are purely *personal* because 90% of complainers are human rights viloators themselves
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 4:49:36 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  If this thread goes to 3rd or 30th page, how big a deal it is? This is just a forum for a few people, not for the entire world. Chinnapulla thanamaa irukku, ithellaama perisa eduththukkarathu. Take 'Anjathey' thread, I bet it will not even cross 10 pages and it will go the underground in couple of days/weeks while some not-so-worthy threads will be on the first page for years, but who cares? The quality of movies like these speak for themselves and forum's first page won't represent/reflect it.

  
  enna kodumai ithu ! What MADDY meant there was about the thread going back to SQUARE ONE after several rounds of discussions if not the # pages of the thread.
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:01:17 2008.

  Judge
  

  Quote:

  Arya is not a great actor, that is everybody's view too. I believe if the director is good, he will come good on screen too, that is what happened so far.

  
  This is precisely what I was referring to. Arya ||| S A Rajkumar (Atleast, with few here if we consider his acting). If not S A R, some other lesser music director). I just wanted to highlight the difference of having Ajith in the project compared to Arya. Certainly, it is a misfit if we consider ACTING till now. If you feel that, bala can transform an actor then I don't think why he cant do it with S A Rajkumar. I brought in IR and YUVAN to highlight the fact that even they will remain equal to S A Rajkumar in bala films since it is BALA who transforms them (as per you)
  

  Quote:

  ippa neenga enna solla varreeenga Looks like you got something wrong in what I said about MDs and actors.

  
  
  

  Quote:

  I And FYI I never went to any Vishal's threads to shout like you do. Because I am not into Yuvan's personal stories, and they don't both me Even if Vishal fights personally with Yuvan in future, I won't do that.

  
  It depends on how much one can get in personal just like using THUNDUBHAI, Annachi etc words for a Music director like Rahmaan. The act varies as per the person. This is what I referred to
  
  

  Quote:

  I think you are confusing urself with lot of stuff

  
  Certainly not. I just highlight the ||| things
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 5:05:09 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: Hmm...interesting arguments and analogies. As a Coke drinking contributor to Colombian human rights offensives I should get out of this thread faster than you can say Tamiraparani-water-rights. oh yea, i forgot we just cared abt the product - we will go ga-ga over Bill Gates' Microsoft but no, we wont listen to Scott Mcnealy(Sun) cries of foul that Bill is a thief.........because operating microsoft product is just as easy as violating colombian human rights - oops drinking coke......and yea, complaints against Bill gates and windows products are purely *personal* because 90% of complainers are human rights viloators themselves

  
  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:09:46 2008.

  --Deleted--
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:14:15 2008.

  உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும்
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 5:19:16 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும்

  
  
  Whoa...kandippa ithellam appadiye varrathu thaan!!!!
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:24:12 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Whoa...kandippa ithellam appadiye varrathu thaan!!!!

  
  Ithu onnum nakkal illayae
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:24:45 2008.

  Quote:

  I have no problem with Selva if he rates bala the person as worst ..But I request him not to mix that when he rates bala's work

  
  
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  But then I don't agree with Joe completely as Selva has made arguments about why exactly he didn't like Bala's earlier works and has been crying hoarse that he did diss even Ameer's film -even though Ameer supported Ajith.

  
  I said thilak that I like sethu and nandha Hope those who know my perception doesn't take it away from me purely on the basis of "bala hatred". I have explained umpteen times on the SJS, Perarasu correlation Have clarified on the Ameer angle too. I have even accepted that the intensity could have aggravated due to my hatred. But clubbing everything under that is a bit too much
  
  PR, I just referred to Ameer angle couple of times unlike in every post So, "crying hoarse" looks weird
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:25:18 2008.

  MADDY. Well.... sort of.
  I completely disagree with the line of thinking that concerns itself with the questioner instead of the question. Something like "kEkkuradhukku avan yaaru...avan romba ozhungaa ?" etc. Usually this line of argument -though haunting - evades the answer.
  
  IMO "let the first stone be thrown by the one who has not sinned" is one of the most misinterpreted line in history. Instead of urging one to introspection (which was the purpose of the line), it has become an argument for lowering the bar.
  
  On second reading I see my post seems to read like that (i.e. sounding like 'we are guilty do we should shut up'). I want to clarify that that is not what I meant. It was just attempted humour gone bad.
  
  Was of course trying to underline my weakness of well-made goods no matter what.
  
  

  selvakumar wrote:

  PR,"அதை ஒரு ஓநாயா இருந்து பார்த்தாதான் தெரியும்" என்று சொல்லாமல் சொல்கிறீர்களா ?

  puriyalai.
  நான் எதையும் 'சொல்லாம சொல்ல' முயலவில்லை. நிஜமாவே நான் சொல்லவந்தது நான் சொன்னது மட்டும் தான்
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:27:04 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  puriyalai. நான் எதையும் 'சொல்லாம சொல்ல' முயலவில்லை. நிஜமாவே நான் சொல்லவந்தது நான் சொன்னது மட்டும் தான்

  
  Was referring to your previous posts on "Juding an art".
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:27:43 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  PR, I just referred to Ameer angle couple of times unlike in every post So, "crying hoarse" looks weird

  
  EdhO nammaala mudinja exaggeration.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 5:30:38 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும்

  Yet another incorrect but forceful analogy.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 5:33:30 2008.

  yedho nammalaal mudinjadhu
  
  Cheeyan thread'ku ponom 100 page finish
  
  oru silar seendittu irundha vivek thread'ku ponom--ippa ---chummaa adhurudhula
  
  Yaarume seendaama irundha Bala thread'ku vandhom---
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:40:34 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும் Yet another incorrect but forceful analogy.

  
  I agree. Just now read the posts on doctor, s/w engineer etc.. Konjam velagi vanthuttaen. Let me go through that
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 5:44:43 2008.

  Quote:

  On second reading I see my post seems to read like that (i.e. sounding like 'we are guilty do we should shut up'). I want to clarify that that is not what I meant. It was just attempted humour gone bad.

  
  
  It was a good one and Maddy's counter post was a similar attempt I felt. Naan rendeyum equal'a rasichEn
  
  

  Quote:

  Was of course trying to underline my weakness of well-made goods no matter what.

  
  
  Ahaa, maRupadiyumA ??
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 5:47:32 2008.

  PR, I would say "It wasn't completely incorrect through in this context"
  
  

• From: leosimha on Tue Feb 26 5:52:21 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  yedho nammalaal mudinjadhu Cheeyan thread'ku ponom 100 page finish oru silar seendittu irundha vivek thread'ku ponom--ippa ---chummaa adhurudhula Yaarume seendaama irundha Bala thread'ku vandhom---

  
  
  
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 7:49:04 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Whoa...kandippa ithellam appadiye varrathu thaan!!!! Ithu onnum nakkal illayae

  
  
  Illa illa...that one sounded good! I didn't say that in context of your reply to PR or anything. Neither was it sarcastic..
  
  

• From: equanimus on Tue Feb 26 8:02:29 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  selvakumar wrote: உணவகத்திலே ஒருவருக்கு பரிமாறின உணவை எடுத்து, வேற ஒரு பாத்திரத்திலே வைத்து, நமக்கு பரிமாறினால் நாம் உணவின் சுவையை மட்டுமே பார்க்க வேண்டும் Yet another incorrect but forceful analogy.

  
  I am not able to get this analogy. Can someone shed more light?
  Anyway, it's very much possible (heck, that's quite the only possibility for me) to be interested in the works of an artist and be totally indifferent to things about the artist outside his work no matter what. Which is what Joe, Prabhu Ram and I have said in our posts at various points. (What I don't seem to get is what the points of disagreement were at first place! yAru yAru, edhu edhula disagree paNNAnga'nnE puriyalappA.)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Feb 26 8:13:29 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Anyway, it's very much possible (heck, that's quite the only possibility for me) to be interested in the works of an artist and be totally indifferent to things about the artist outside his work no matter what. Which is what Joe, Prabhu Ram and I have said in our posts at various points. (What I don't seem to get is what the points of disagreement were at first place! yAru yAru, edhu edhula disagree paNNAnga'nnE puriyalappA.)

  
  
  EQ , selva has disagreement over bala's style of movie making - he has problems with extreme contrived characters/situations bala uses in his movies.........
  
  Me/Roshan/Feddy/*"Perumbaalana" Ajith fans - Bala is a bad time/money manager who has wasted Ajith's precious time and incurred financial loss to Ajith as well.....the revlieving process too was very unlawful or forecful to say the least........so, we are condemning Bala's acts, which are so unprofessional and we feel these are also aspects on which a director is to be judged.............
  
  points of disagreement -
  
  a) well ur side feels we are getting too personal on Bala everytime we make a critcism on him..........even when we have substantiated that it is a genuine cinematic/professional ground on which we have criticised Bala, there are no takers to our thoughts.........
  
  b) our side feels whoever is supporting Bala and his movies ignoring time/money mismanagement aspect are against AJith or atleast against our concerns
  
  * - nee yaaru Ajith fans-a represent panna, neenga ketkalaam......... .......i can vouch for this view amongst Ajith fans atleast in this hub....
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Tue Feb 26 8:15:46 2008.

  Equanimus, vENaaM ithOda niruthikkuvOm a la Kaipulla
  
  

  equanimus wrote:

  I am not able to get this analogy. Can someone shed more light?

  Selva has agreed that it is incorrect. So this is not to be dwelt on. It was a shock-and-awe point.
  

  equanimus wrote:

  (What I don't seem to get is what the points of disagreement were at first place! yAru yAru, edhu edhula disagree paNNAnga'nnE puriyalappA.)

  
  Reminds me of an Enga Veettu PiLLai scene. MGR1 starts off with a couple of idlis and runs up a huge pile of dishes and slips away. MGR2 comes in ...
  Waiter: enna vEnum
  MGR2: rendu idli
  Waiter: marupadiyum mudhalErndhA...!
  
  btw I wish to solemny affirm that the above was not an analogy but only a manifestation of my compulsive quotation syndrome.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Tue Feb 26 8:21:11 2008.

  Quote:

  I wish to solemny affirm that the above was not an analogy but only a manifestation of my compulsive quotation syndrome.

  
  
  Not that we're complaining
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 8:23:19 2008.

  That analogy wasn't forceful. It is not fully incorrect
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 8:27:23 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Me/Roshan/Feddy/*"Perumbaalana" Ajith fans - Bala is a bad time/money manager who has wasted Ajith's precious time and incurred financial loss to Ajith as well.....the revlieving process too was very unlawful or forecful to say the least........so, we are condemning Bala's acts, which are so unprofessional and we feel these are also aspects on which a director is to be judged.............

  
  
  Small addition - Roshan was also trying to point out that it's WRONG to conclude as 'it's all personal' when a 'product' of Bala is criticised or discarded
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Feb 26 8:47:06 2008.

  
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 9:37:10 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  
  
  
  

• From: selvakumar on Tue Feb 26 9:41:36 2008.

  joe wrote:

  
  Better late than never. Rechecked the PV scene and could get an idea on the nasty thing associated with my reply. my apology for that.
  
  Anyway, to the thread (for the time being)
  
  

• From: joe on Tue Feb 26 9:47:32 2008.

  Selva,
  Pls no hard feelings ..I too understood later you didn't mean what I thought ..Cheers bro!
  
  

• From: Roshan on Tue Feb 26 10:20:55 2008.

  
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 27 2:05:18 2008.

  I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Wed Feb 27 2:28:40 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Wed Feb 27 5:37:39 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Wed Feb 27 5:48:14 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music.

  
  
  paradoxical----meaning----Seemingly contradictory but nonetheless possibly true
  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:26:14 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors.

  
  
  i disagree here, he has taken stand in his movies (correct me if "taking a stand is not equal to having a POV")...........in sethu, i remember vaguely him taking a stand with heroine's sister's track........the listless woman who comes back home bcos she couldnt afford the demands of in-laws.........In Nanda, when Rajkiran says - "avangala naamadhaan kaapathanum" and brings tamil refugees into the town - its a clear stand on behalf of "eelam struggle" (very commendable one, IMO)..........Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud - i havent seen that movie keenly........so, Bala does take stand and gives a viewpoint to the viewer..........
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 27 8:32:25 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud

  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  i havent seen that movie keenly

  oho !
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:37:38 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud MADDY wrote: i havent seen that movie keenly oho !

  
  
  i know i know i know (raguvaran style) - PR, i somehow found vikram's extreme "man from mars" character a big turn off and it just went worse as movie progressed.....
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Feb 27 8:38:20 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud MADDY wrote: i havent seen that movie keenly oho !

  
  
  Ippadiyum irukkalAm illaiyA.....
  
  I have not seen the movie keenly.. because it was a dud
  
  (Maddy nEthu sick leave eduthu muRai maaman padam pArtha katha gnApgagam vanthuduchu, hence my interpretation )
  
  

• From: MADDY on Wed Feb 27 8:47:03 2008.

  Roshan wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: MADDY wrote: Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud MADDY wrote: i havent seen that movie keenly oho ! Ippadiyum irukkalAm illaiyA I have not seen the movie keenly.. because it was a dud (Maddy nEthu sick leave eduthu muRai maaman padam pArtha katha gnApgagam vanthuduchu, hence my interpretation )

  
  
  wat u told was wat i meant, but PR twisted the words ......(typing a post in between meetings have such consequences )
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Wed Feb 27 8:49:03 2008.

  irukkalaam. saaththiyak kooRukaL kammi
  
  btw adhu thaimaaman
  
  muRaimaaman is the Goundamani-Jayaram movie.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Feb 27 8:50:40 2008.

  Thaaimaaman can be muraimaaman too! Roshan adhunaala confuse aagi irrupaanga?! Enna Roshan right-a?
  
  

• From: Roshan on Wed Feb 27 8:54:34 2008.

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  Thaaimaaman can be muraimaaman too! Roshan adhunaala confuse aagi irrupaanga?! Enna Roshan right-a?

  
  
  yeah yeah right
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:10:45 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  enna kodumai ithu ! What MADDY meant there was about the thread going back to SQUARE ONE after several rounds of discussions if not the # pages of the thread.

  
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  Selva , this thread was easily going to the second/third pages - u bought it to first page and that too so much limelight ............paaru ellarum vandhu advice panraanga

  
  
  Did he mean that? still not clear.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:39:11 2008.

  selvakumar wrote:

  This is precisely what I was referring to. Arya ||| S A Rajkumar (Atleast, with few here if we consider his acting). If not S A R, some other lesser music director). I just wanted to highlight the difference of having Ajith in the project compared to Arya. Certainly, it is a misfit if we consider ACTING till now. If you feel that, bala can transform an actor then I don't think why he cant do it with S A Rajkumar. I brought in IR and YUVAN to highlight the fact that even they will remain equal to S A Rajkumar in bala films since it is BALA who transforms them (as per you)

  
  
  You need to understand one basic reasoning here. All actors will not be good in all characters. You may be a ajith fan, but that doesn't change the facts. Say can Ajith do a Imsai arasan 23m pulikesi? I can bet not even in 100 years; only a comedian like Vadivelu can do justice for that kind of role. On the same note, my gut feeling is that Arya looks more fit for this role than Ajith. Time and again I never said Ajith/anyone is a bad actor. I care less about actors; directors are the primary reasons for me watching the movies.
  
  Still your SAR, IR, Yuvan analogy looks silly to me.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Feb 27 13:42:41 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  I hope that Bala releases the movie soon. It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. Somehow he creates scenes, characters that show reality in an accentuated manner without being too loud and verbose. I hope he has addressed his internal questions in this movie. Also looking forward to Arya's work and Raaja's Break Ground Music.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Wed Feb 27 17:13:14 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  i disagree here, he has taken stand in his movies (correct me if "taking a stand is not equal to having a POV")...........in sethu, i remember vaguely him taking a stand with heroine's sister's track........the listless woman who comes back home bcos she couldnt afford the demands of in-laws.........In Nanda, when Rajkiran says - "avangala naamadhaan kaapathanum" and brings tamil refugees into the town - its a clear stand on behalf of "eelam struggle" (very commendable one, IMO)..........Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud - i havent seen that movie keenly........so, Bala does take stand and gives a viewpoint to the viewer..........

  
  Maddy,
  I'm not sure if I read you right, but in case I did, I strongly disagree with you. (Else, let this stay just as another rambling from my end.)
  
  I don't mean to posit a strict notion of, or define even, what's "taking a stand" and what's not. (There's none. The notion of a camera just observing something as is, is not as simple as it sounds. The camera after all still selectively shows things among what all that can be shown -- which is infinite.) Well, let me put it this way: "when I see it, I feel it."
  
  Bala "gives" space to the characters in his films to make their own trysts with destiny in the condition that they live in, with their own "morality", as if the omniscient camera is well "aware" of the horror, the drudgery, the absurdity of the human condition all at once. The camera in Bala's films observes the characters and the happenings in their life with a humanistic "connection" (for the lack of a better expression). In 'pithAmagan', when the ganja landlord says, "jail'ukku pORa vayasA dA idhu?" the director "connects" to the character. Like he "connects" to Sakthi's character when he says, "avanukku poNdAtti puLLakuttinga'nnu irukku, manasAtchiya maRandhuttu poi solluvAn. AnA, nAnga appadi illa sir. thAi, thagappan illAdha anAdha pakkinga. [...] ennikkum sarakku adichchA dhAn sir enakku azhugai varum, innikku adikkala sir..." (Raaja springs up with a beautiful piece of violin here.)
  
  Likewise with the rowdies who beat up Sethu after they're out of jail. In 'NandhA', when NandhA kills Saravanan (which in a lesser film is nothing but the equivalent of hero killing the villain), we aren't sure whose side we should take. When Saravanan's wife curses (by throwing sand) at Maheshwari, we understand the irreparable damage NandhA has caused to her life. We realise what NandhA's mom is going through. All this in a film, when every other Friday, the newly released film has its hero killing the villain as the film draws towards an all-is-fine happy ending.
  
  Even the small characters in Bala's films are great revelations. Like the sAmiyAr in the jail (one of the "oru goondup paRavaigaL") in 'pithAmagan'. We are introduced to him when Sakthi meets and he understandably chides and mocks at him no end. But, gradually, we see the two get along well with each other. The followers of the sAmiyAr still continue to meet him in the prison. The sAmiyAr offers his prayers to God when Sakthi is getting beaten up by the policemen. Sakthi even gets his blessings on his release day. What really could this man's "spirituality" be? Bala seems to wonder. But, he doesn't "deny" him his spirituality, the social recognition he has in this world, by taking a stand. This is such a revelation for a character like that. I've seen nothing close to this in Tamil cinema. (Well, the closest I can think of is Delhi Ganesh's character in a small subplot in Ananthu's 'sigaram'. It is commendably handled, but not really a patch on what we get to see in the small sequence in 'pithAmagan'.)
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 1:05:49 2008.

  EQ check ur PM
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Feb 28 2:29:06 2008.

  
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Feb 28 2:39:08 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  EQ check ur PM

  
  
  அது என்ன தனியா பேசிக்கிறது? என்னவா இருந்தாலும் சபையில தான் பேசனும், ஆமாம்!
  
  

• From: dinesh13284 on Thu Feb 28 9:06:09 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  MADDY wrote: EQ check ur PM அது என்ன தனியா பேசிக்கிறது? என்னவா இருந்தாலும் சபையில தான் பேசனும், ஆமாம்!

  ethaachum personal mattera irukum...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 9:18:03 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  MADDY wrote: EQ check ur PM அது என்ன தனியா பேசிக்கிறது? என்னவா இருந்தாலும் சபையில தான் பேசனும், ஆமாம்!

  
  
  I dont think Judge and Jaiganes will like me posting abt that person here
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 28 9:55:37 2008.

  MADDY,
  
  Neenga enna solli ithu varakkum naan oththukkittu iruken? or naan enna solli neenga oththukkittu irukkeenga? Ore oru thadavai mattaum thaan we were united (I don't remember for what). ithu ellam hubla saatharanamappa
  
  Yes, if it is a personal fight of some artistes, I don't want to hear it, please keep it in PM
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 10:06:38 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY, Neenga enna solli ithu varakkum naan oththukkittu iruken? or naan enna solli neenga oththukkittu irukkeenga? Ore oru thadavai mattaum thaan we were united (I don't remember for what). ithu ellam hubla saatharanamappa Yes, if it is a personal fight of some artistes, I don't want to hear it, please keep it in PM

  
  
  hey judge, we agreed on Bala issue in starting pages of this thread.......ofcourse, we both will agree Mahendran is the best director in tamil ever (yes i have accepted that recently )........
  
  its not personal fight of artistes, its just i compared Bala's style with one more person's.......
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Feb 28 10:15:17 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  hey judge, we agreed on Bala issue in starting pages of this thread.......ofcourse, we both will agree Mahendran is the best director in tamil ever (yes i have accepted that recently )........

  
  
  There you are (imagine the phrase with Nagesh's rendition in KNI)
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  its not personal fight of artistes, its just i compared Bala's style with one more person's.......

  
  
  I know that one more person
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Feb 28 10:31:51 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: hey judge, we agreed on Bala issue in starting pages of this thread.......ofcourse, we both will agree Mahendran is the best director in tamil ever (yes i have accepted that recently )........ There you are (imagine the phrase with Nagesh's rendition in KNI) MADDY wrote: its not personal fight of artistes, its just i compared Bala's style with one more person's....... I know that one more person

  
  
  - purinja seri......
  
  

• From: app_engine on Thu Mar 13 8:41:04 2008.

  The dialogue writer for this movie, Jayamohan, has got into a tussle with film artist association (based on a vikatan article that commented on Jayamohan's blog making fun of MGR / Sivaji)...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 5:12:52 2008.

  app_engine wrote:

  The dialogue writer for this movie, Jayamohan, has got into a tussle with film artist association (based on a vikatan article that commented on Jayamohan's blog making fun of MGR / Sivaji)...

  
  
  Looks like there is a ban on using him in films now, this move is simply a ridiculous one by artistes association. I hope that NK's progress doesn't get affected by this agitation.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Mar 14 5:30:57 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  
  
  I Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:59 am.... my last emoticon....till now only one page crossed.....padaththadhaan nidhaanamaa edukkuraangana....indha thread koodavaa.......
  
  

• From: Tamilan on Fri Mar 14 5:57:02 2008.

  Interesting...
  
  http://jeyamohan.in/?p=279
  
  

• From: cancer on Fri Mar 14 6:03:39 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  app_engine wrote: The dialogue writer for this movie, Jayamohan, has got into a tussle with film artist association (based on a vikatan article that commented on Jayamohan's blog making fun of MGR / Sivaji)... Looks like there is a ban on using him in films now, this move is simply a ridiculous one by artistes association. I hope that NK's progress doesn't get affected by this agitation.

  
  
  I think there wont be any problem for the films that he already working, the stupid ban should only might be future.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:11:23 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: I Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:59 am.... my last emoticon....till now only one page crossed.....padaththadhaan nidhaanamaa edukkuraangana....indha thread koodavaa.......

  
  
  sila threads 100 pages kanakkula speed-a pogum aana padam periya mokkaiya irukkum So quantities never tell you the qualities
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:12:17 2008.

  cancer wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: app_engine wrote: The dialogue writer for this movie, Jayamohan, has got into a tussle with film artist association (based on a vikatan article that commented on Jayamohan's blog making fun of MGR / Sivaji)... Looks like there is a ban on using him in films now, this move is simply a ridiculous one by artistes association. I hope that NK's progress doesn't get affected by this agitation. I think there wont be any problem for the films that he already working, the stupid ban should only might be future.

  
  
  If that is the case, then it is good for NK but IMO they should drop this ban pretty soon.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Mar 14 9:26:20 2008.

  Tamilan wrote:

  Interesting... http://jeyamohan.in/?p=279

  
  
  Thanks, Tamilan. That article was interesting.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Mon Mar 17 15:14:26 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  jaiganes wrote: It has been a while since i have seen movies that present us with an alternate view. Even good movies of the past years are presented from a POV that is conventional. Bala's style of taking a paradoxical view and accentuating it with a vice like grip on narration is missing in other promising directors. i disagree here, he has taken stand in his movies (correct me if "taking a stand is not equal to having a POV")...........in sethu, i remember vaguely him taking a stand with heroine's sister's track........the listless woman who comes back home bcos she couldnt afford the demands of in-laws.........In Nanda, when Rajkiran says - "avangala naamadhaan kaapathanum" and brings tamil refugees into the town - its a clear stand on behalf of "eelam struggle" (very commendable one, IMO)..........Pithamagan, IMO, was a dud - i havent seen that movie keenly........so, Bala does take stand and gives a viewpoint to the viewer..........

  
  
  I don't mean paradoxical in terms of his views. He is unequivocally blunt and to the point in many topics , The cutting scene in Nanda. no one could be more forcefully one sided there. What i meant was the characterisation.
  Sethu - Tough nut - goes soft only to get very tough after the tragedy.
  Nanda - tough boy - gets tougher, softens thanks to Kalyani and Karunaas and Raaj Kiran, gets finally tough again - his mother ends the story. Even flow, typical Thamizh movie flow - the guy would have gotten away - not in this movie.
  Also he is longing for love, but not one to embrace it immediately when opportunity arises - Case in point - his initial hesitation towards Kalyani (Laila).
  Pithamagan - Sithan is a thing that cares only for food, after coming into contact with Sakthi, learns only the human feeling of Camaraderie and accords it one step higher than loyalty which he feels towards Mahadevan. In the end has he evolved in his understanding of human relationships? The answer could be both yes and no. This kind of ambiguity is what Bala excels in bringing out from a character in a movie. To consider that he had public who were portrayed by "CRITICS" and greater intellectuals as people who cant come above "Madure" and "thiruppachi" totally glued to the movie throughout is no easy feat.
  Though some may not agree with his methods or POVs , I still find no reason to put him down as a film maker. He is simply forceful in his use of cinema as a medium of thoughts and feelings and that is undoubtedly a great trait any aspiring movie maker ought to cultivate in him/herself. Particularly in Thamizh nadu where "Vazha vazha kozha kozha" is never appreciated.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Mar 18 0:49:05 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sila threads 100 pages kanakkula speed-a pogum aana padam periya mokkaiya irukkum So quantities never tell you the qualities

  
  
  Good joke....should I laugh...for ur sake ..enough...happy...
  
  
  Wt do u mean by quality.....Let us take pithamagan.....
  
  Ulagaththula engayaavudhu appadi oru charactor'a paaththirukkeengalaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...?
  
  illa shakthi maadhiri oru charactor ulla payyan'a...adhuvum padichcha ponnu love pannumaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...?
  
  

• From: directhit on Tue Mar 18 2:52:13 2008.

  sarna, i guess that quality was for the discussions in the thread even if not, for ur questions
  1. neenga ulagathula ethana pera paarthirukkeenga?
  2. second line -- nadakkaradhu naan naraya paarthirukkein
  u like it or not, Pithamagan ROCKED!! and its far far far better in terms of quality than many other movies in IFI
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue Mar 18 2:56:26 2008.

  directhit wrote:

  2. second line -- nadakkaradhu naan naraya paarthirukkein

  
  
  
  
  road-la pogumbodhu namma oru jodi-ya parpoam.... namma enna comment pannuvoam: "kili madhiri ponnu irukku.... avana paru korangu madhiri irukkan...... eppadiyo thallikittu vandhurranuga"
  
  - kadhalukku kan mattumalla...... Arivum illai -
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Wed Mar 19 8:15:58 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: sila threads 100 pages kanakkula speed-a pogum aana padam periya mokkaiya irukkum So quantities never tell you the qualities Good joke....should I laugh...for ur sake ..enough...happy... Wt do u mean by quality.....Let us take pithamagan..... Ulagaththula engayaavudhu appadi oru charactor'a paaththirukkeengalaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...? illa shakthi maadhiri oru charactor ulla payyan'a...adhuvum padichcha ponnu love pannumaa?...idhukku pErdhaan quality'ya...?

  
  
  Ayudha Ezuthupadam paartheengala?
  Inba madhiriyana charactrai padicha ponnu love panudhe andha padathil.
  sarasari aanum pennum love panna adhu kadhai illai - adhu vazhakkamaana onnu.
  different back ground and character irukaravanga kaadhal pannum bodhu dhaan cinemavil kadhai panna mudiyum - atleast thamizh naattil.
  Thavira niraya ilam pengal, puriyadha vayadhil thavaraana aatkalai kaadhal seiyvadhu ondrum nadakaadha vishayam illai - venumnaa dhina thandhi vaangi padinga sir. page 6 le theliva theriyum enna nadakkudhunnu.
  
  

• From: clnarain on Thu Mar 20 21:54:24 2008.

  Guys,
  
  Where is the link to the controversial article on MGR & Sivaji by Jeyamohan? It's been the talk of the town now and I'm very much interested in reading the same.
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Mar 20 23:20:02 2008.

  clnarain wrote:

  Guys, Where is the link to the controversial article on MGR & Sivaji by Jeyamohan? It's been the talk of the town now and I'm very much interested in reading the same.

  
  
  Jeyamohan had deleted that article from his blog. Ananda Vikatan published the controversial parts of that article 3-4 weeks ago.
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Fri Mar 21 0:21:48 2008.

  TRANSGENDER in NK !
  
  
  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/37368.html
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 16 4:27:25 2008.

  This week's AV has a small interview of Bala. He speaks about NK movie, music etc. but didn't say anything about the release date.
  
  

• From: directhit on Tue May 20 0:06:32 2008.

  Vikatan Interview
  ஷட்சித் ப்ரமாணம் ஓம் ஓம்
  மூலப் ப்ரமேயம் ஓம் ஓம்
  அயம் ப்ரம்மாஸ்மி ஓம் ஓம்
  அஹம் ப்ரம்மாஸ்மி ஓம் ஓம்!''
  
  உயிரை முடுக்கும் இசையில், உச்ச ஸ்தாயியில் மந்திர உச்சாடனைகள் முழங்க, ''ஹரஹரஹர மஹாதேவ்!'' என கங்கை நதிக் கரை கண் முன்னே விரிகிறது. ஆயிரமாயிரம் சாமியார்களுக்கு நடுவே 'ருத்ரன்' ஆர்யா, ருத்ர தாண்டவமாடும் காட்சி, உலக சினிமாவுக்கே புதுசு!
  
  ''காசியில, கங்கை நதிக் கரையில ஒரு வாரம் திரிஞ்சா, வாழ்க்கை பற்றிய புரிதலே புதுசாகிடும் கிறது உண்மைதான்!'' 'நான் கடவுள்' படப்பிடிப்பை முழுமையாக முடித்து சென்னை திரும்பி இருக்கிற இயக்குநர் பாலா சின்னதாகப் புன்னகைக்கிறார். ''பிரசவ வேதனையை விடப் பெரிய அவஸ்தை, தன் படைப் பைப் பற்றித் தானே பெருமை பேசுவது'' என்று பேட்டிக்கு மறுத்தவரிடம், பிடிவாதம் பிடித்துப் பேசியதில் கொஞ்சம்...
  
  ''யார் கடவுள்?''
  இது கடவுள் இருக்காரா, இல்லையாங்கிற ஆத்திகநாத்திக விளையாட்டு இல்லை. பக்திப் படம் எடுப்பது என் வேலை இல்லை. எவருடைய நம்பிக்கை களையும் காயப்படுத்தக் கூடாது என்பது என் இயல்பு. அந்த அடிப்படை நாகரிகத்தில் நான் எப்போதும் தெளிவா இருக்கேன். இது விளிம்பு நிலை மனிதர்களின் உலகம். ஒரு எளிய கேள்வியை உங்கள் முன்வைக்க விரும்புகிறேன். படம் பார்த்தால் பதில் கிடைக்கும். என்னை, உங்களை, நம்மை, நம் உலகத்தை அது இன்னும் தெளிவாக்கும்!
  
  ரெண்டரை அடி உயரமே இருக் கிற என் பரமசிவனுக்கு 54 வயசு. அதுக்கும் கம்மியா இருக் கிற என் 30 வயசு பார் வதி, இதயக் கோளாறு உள்ள குழந்தை. உடம்பு போலவே, மனசும் இன்னும் குழந்தையாவே இருக்கு. இப்படி இன்னும் ரெண்டு டஜன் மனிதர்களை இதில் நடிக்க வெச்சிருக்கேன். பொறந்ததில் இருந்து இன்னும் வீட்டு வாசலைத் தாண்ட முடியாத கடவுளின் குழந்தைகளை, ஊர் உலகம் எல்லாம் பார்க்கட்டும்னு கூட்டிட்டு வந்திருக்கேன். மேனி அழகைச் சிவப்பாக்க சிவப்பு க்ரீம் பூசுகிற உலகமே, வந்து பாருங்கடா இவங்களையும்னு காட்ட வந்திருக்கேன்.
  
  ஊனத்தோடு பொறக்கிறது சாபம் இல்லை; சத்துக் குறைச்சல். சரி, நல்ல சாப்பாடு நாலு வேளை சாப்பிட்டிருந்தா, ஊட்டச் சத் தோடு இருக்கலாம். ஒருவேளைச் சாப்பாட்டுக்கே வழி இல்லாத ஆத்தாளுக்குப் பொறந்தா, ஓரமாக் குழி தோண்டிப் பொதைச்சிரலாமா? உடம்பு, மனசு, மூளைன்னு எல்லாமே சிதைஞ்சிருக்கிற அந்த உயிர்களின் சிரிப்பே, இந்தப் பிரபஞ்சத்துக் கான ஆன்மிகம்!''
  
  'ஒருமுறையா இருமுறையா பலமுறை
  பல பிறப்பெடுக்கவைத்தாய்
  புதுவினையா பழவினையா
  கணம்கணம் தினம் எனைத்
  துடிக்கவைத்தாய்
  பிண்டம் என்னும் எலும்பொடு சதை
  நரம்புதிரமும் அடங்கிய உடம்பு எனும்
  பிச்சைப் பாத்திரம் ஏந்தி வந்தோம்
  ஐயனே... எம் ஐயனே!' ராஜாவின் பாடல் மனசை அறுக்கிறது.
  
  ''ஊர்ல உலகத்தில் எவ்வளவோ பிச்சைக்காரங்க இருக்காங்க. எதிர்ப்படுற எல்லா பிச்சைக்காரங்களுக்கும் நாம் உதவுவதில்லை. பாவப்பட்டோ, இரக்கப்பட்டோ, புண்ணியத் துக்கோ, நாம போடுற சில சில்லறைக் காசுகளோட, அவங் களை ஒதுக்கிடுறோம். 'அய்யா தர்மதொர, அம்மா மகராசி!'ன்னு ஒரு வாய் சோத்துக்காக நம்மிடம் கையேந்தி நிக்கிற பாவப்பட்ட மனிதர்களைப் பத்தி யோசிச்சி ருக்கோமா? பிச்சை எடுக்கிறது என்ன குலத் தொழிலா? அவங்க எப்படிப் பிச்சையெடுக்கிற நிலைமைக்கு வந்தாங்க?
  
  பெத்த பிள்ளைங்களால விரட்டி அடிக்கப்பட்டு, வீதிக்கு வந்த துக்கம் தாங்க முடியாம, காவி வேட்டிக் கட்டி கௌரவமா பிச்சையெடுக்கிறது எவனோன்னு போறோம்... அவன், நம்ம அப்பனா இருந்தா? மானத்தைக் காப்பாத்திக்க வழி தெரியாம, பிச்சையெடுக்கிற அவமானத்தோட அலையுற பொம்பளை, நம்ம அம்மாவா, அக்காவா இருந்தா? அப்பனோ, ஆத்தாவோ உடம்புத் திமிர்ல யாரோடவாவது ஓடிப் போக, ஆதரவுக்கு யாருமில்லாம, எச்சி இலையை நக்கித் திங்கிறது நம்ம புள்ளையா இருந்தா? அப்பத் தெரியும்ல அந்த வலி!
  
  நரகலைத் திங்கிற நாய் மாதிரி ஒரு ஈனப் பொழப்பு. ஆனா, அந்த எளிய மனிதர்களிடம் இருக்கிற பண்பு, படிச்ச பல பெரிய மனுஷங் களிடம்கூட இல்லை என்பது நான் உணர்ந்த உண்மை!''
  
  ''ஆர்யாவின் தோற்றமும்.....''
  ''ஆர்யாவின் தோற்றமும் பூஜாவின் மாற்றமும் பற்றிப் பேசலாமா?''
  
  ஆங்... ருத்ரனா வர்றான் ஆர்யா. அவனை ஒரு ஜாலியான பையனா தான் பார்த்திருக்கு தமிழ் சினிமா. இதுல ஆர்யா, அவன் சினிமா வாழ்க்கையில அடுத்த கட்டத் துக்கு வந்துட்டான். உன்னதம், உன்மத்தம்னெல்லாம் சொல்வாங்கல்ல... அப்படி ஒரு உழைப்பு. ரெண்டு வருஷத்தில் வேற ஒரு ஆளா உருமாத்திட்டேன். க்ளைமாக்ஸ் ஃபைட் ஒண்ணை ஒரு முழு மாசமும் எடுத்தேன். ரெண்டே பேரு... காத்துல கை வீசுறதெல்லாம் கிடையாது. அடி ஒவ்வொண்ணும் நிஜமாவே விழும். மூஞ்சி முகரைஎல்லாம் பொளந்து, முட்டி பேந்துன்னு இதுவரைக்கும் சினிமா பார்த்திராத ஆக்ஷன்!
  
  அம்சவல்லியா வருது பூஜா. சின்சியரான பொண்ணு! சிரிச்ச முகமாவே மொத்தப் படமும் முடிச்சுக் கொடுத்துச்சு. கடைசி வரைக்கும் தன் கஷ் டங்கள் எதையுமே காட்டிக்கலை. வலியும் ஜீவனுமான ஒரு கேரக்டரை, அப்படி ஒரு எனர்ஜியோடு செய்திருக்கு. தான் சினிமாவில் இருந்தேன்னு பெருமிதமா சொல்லிக்கிறதுக்கு, அதோட ஆயுசுக்கும் இந்த ஒரு படம் போதும்!
  
  ஆர்யா, பூஜா போல என் கனவு மொத்தத்தையும் தன் கண்களில் சுமந்தவர் கேமராமேன் ஆர்தர் வில்சன். காசியில், ராஜாவின் பாடல் நாகராவில் ஓடியபோது, வந்து உட்கார்ந்த ஒரு வடநாட்டுச் சாமியார்... அந்த ஏழரை நிமிஷங்களும் வானம் வெறித்து, அருவி போலக் கண்ணீர் வழிய அமர்ந்திருந்தார். பாடல் முடிந்ததும், என் தலை தொட்டு, 'இதோட அர்த்தம் எனக்குப் புரியும்' என்று சொல்லிட்டுப் போனார். மொழி தெரியாத உலகத்தையும் விழி கசியவிடுகிற ராஜா என்னோடு இருக்கார். அது போதும் எனக்கு!
  
  '15 வருடங்கள்..."
  ''15 வருடங்கள்... மூன்றே படங்கள். நாலாவது படமான 'நான் கடவுள்' உருவாக்கத்திலும் இவ்வளவு காலம் எடுத்துக்கறீங்களே, உங்க ஃபிலிம் மேக்கிங் ஸ்டைலே இதுதானா?''
  
  ''தீபாவளி, பொங்கல்னு படம் ரிலீஸ் பண்ண நான் பட்டாசோ, கரும்போ இல்லை. எந்த விஷயத்தை எடுத்துக்கணும், அதை எப்படிச் செய்து முடிக் கணும்னு எனக்குத் தெளிவு கிடைக்காம, அதை நான் செய்ய மாட்டேன். இருநூறு லாரி, முன்னூறு கார்களைவெச்சு சேஸிங் படம் எடுக்கிற பரவ சத்தை, படபடப்பைவிட, ரெண்டு மனிதர்களைத் திண்ணை யில உட்காந்து பேசவெச்சே பிரமாதப்படுத்திட முடியும்னு நினைக்கிறேன். அது நான் நினைச்சவிதத்தில் கிடைக்கும் வரை, அந்த ரெண்டு பேரையும் திண்ணையைவிட்டு எழுந்திருக்க விட மாட்டேன். அவ்வளவுதான் விஷயம்!
  
  இதோ, 'நான் கடவுள்' படத்தில், ஆர்யா, பூஜாவைத் தவிர, அத்தனை பேரும் புதுமுகங்கள். உடல் வளர்ச்சி இல்லாத, மன வளர்ச்சி இல்லாத மனிதர்கள். அவங்க கையில வசனப் பேப் பரைக் கொடுத்து, 'பேசுப்பா!'னு படம்பிடிக்க முடியாது. அவங்க ளோட பழகி, அவங்க நம்மோட பழகின்னு ஒவ்வொருத்தரையும் ஒரு குழந்தை போலப் பார்த்துக்கணும். ஆறு மாச ஷூட்டிங் முடிஞ்ச பிறகு, இப்போ அவங்க அத்தனை பேரும் என் குடும் பம்.
  
  இன்னொரு பக்கம் காசி சாமி யார்கள். அகோரின்னு சொல்லப் படுகிற, நர மாமிசம் சாப்பிடுற சாமியார்களையும் நடிக்க வெச்சிருக்கேன். இப்படி ஒரு படத்தை உருவாக்குற வலியை, வார்த்தைகளில் புரியவைக்க முடியாது. ஏன்னா, இது வித்தி யாசமான படம்னு சொல்றதே பழைய வார்த்தையாகிப்போச்சு. இது நாம் கருணை காட்டாத, நம்மால் புரிந்துகொள்ளப்படாத, கடைசி மனிதர்களின் உலகம்!''
  
  ''சரி, கடவுளை எப்போ கண்ணுல காட்டுவீங்க?''
  ''கூடிய விரைவில்னு பொது வான வார்த்தைகளில் பொய் சொல்ல விரும்பலை. விஷயம் என்னன்னா, வித்தை பழகின அளவுக்கு நான் வியாபாரம் பழகலை. ஒரு வியாபாரி போலப் பேரம் பேசவும் எனக்குத் தெரியாது. இந்தப் படத்துக்கான செலவு, நினைச்சதைவிட, அதிகமாகிப் போச்சு! அத்தனையும் தவிர்க்க முடியாத செலவு. என் தரப்பில் இருந்து சில கோடிகளை வாங்கிப் போட்டு, படத்தை முடிச்சிருக்கேன்.
  
  'ஹே ஜென்ம மாத்ரம் நா
  ஹிதா அபி ஜென்ம நபவிஷ்யதி'னு சொல்வான் என் ருத்ரன். அப்படி ஒரு விடுதலையை வேண்டிக்கிற அளவுக்கு, இந்தப் படத்தை உருவாக்குவதில் உழைச் சிருக்கோம். இயல்பின் ஆழத்தையும் அதன் அர்த்தத்தையும் பிடித்துவிட்டேன் என்பதுதான் என் பெருமிதம்!''
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 20 0:10:30 2008.

  directhit wrote:

  இருநூறு லாரி, முன்னூறு கார்களைவெச்சு சேஸிங் படம் எடுக்கிற பரவ சத்தை, படபடப்பைவிட, ரெண்டு மனிதர்களைத் திண்ணை யில உட்காந்து பேசவெச்சே பிரமாதப்படுத்திட முடியும்னு நினைக்கிறேன். அது நான் நினைச்சவிதத்தில் கிடைக்கும் வரை, அந்த ரெண்டு பேரையும் திண்ணையைவிட்டு எழுந்திருக்க விட மாட்டேன். அவ்வளவுதான் விஷயம்!

  
  
  
  
  Bala
  
  The stills in AV raises expectation
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue May 20 0:50:02 2008.

  directhit wrote:

  காசியில், ராஜாவின் பாடல் நாகராவில் ஓடியபோது, வந்து உட்கார்ந்த ஒரு வடநாட்டுச் சாமியார்... அந்த ஏழரை நிமிஷங்களும் வானம் வெறித்து, அருவி போலக் கண்ணீர் வழிய அமர்ந்திருந்தார். பாடல் முடிந்ததும், என் தலை தொட்டு, 'இதோட அர்த்தம் எனக்குப் புரியும்' என்று சொல்லிட்டுப் போனார். மொழி தெரியாத உலகத்தையும் விழி கசியவிடுகிற ராஜா என்னோடு இருக்கார். அது போதும் எனக்கு!

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 20 0:55:57 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  directhit wrote: மொழி தெரியாத உலகத்தையும் விழி கசியவிடுகிற ராஜா என்னோடு இருக்கார். அது போதும் எனக்கு!

  
  
  Very true lines. Ippadi paaratta padura thaguthi ulla Orae Tamil MD is IR
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Tue May 20 1:01:12 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: directhit wrote: மொழி தெரியாத உலகத்தையும் விழி கசியவிடுகிற ராஜா என்னோடு இருக்கார். அது போதும் எனக்கு! Very true lines. Ippadi paaratta padura thaguthi ulla Orae Tamil MD is IR

  
  
  ONE & ONLY MUSICAL GOD
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 20 1:02:17 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  ONE & ONLY MUSICAL GOD

  
  
  
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 20 1:16:43 2008.

  Bala wrote:

  ''தீபாவளி, பொங்கல்னு படம் ரிலீஸ் பண்ண நான் பட்டாசோ, கரும்போ இல்லை. ''

  
  
  
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu May 22 9:57:50 2008.

  Start afresh pls.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu May 22 10:06:08 2008.

  mmm..ellaarum fresha start pannungappa!
  
  between i saw a movie called dumplings which was based on people eating naramaamisam to attain youthfulness...
  
  and i have heard abt the himalayn people eating human flesh for that reason.....they have already told abt hero eating heoine..any linkings?
  
  

• From: app_engine on Thu May 22 10:17:31 2008.

  [tscii]
  http://jeyamohan.in/?p=417
  
  From the above blog:
  
  உதாரணமாக ‘நான் கடவுள் படம் பற்றி இருபதுக்கும் மேலான கிசுகிசுக்கள், துணுக்குச் செய்திகள் வந்தன. அவை அனைத்துமே முற்றிலும் பொய்கள். சில பொய்களுக்கு உள்நோக்கம் உண்டு. படம் தொடங்கி ஆறுமாதமாகியும் திரைக்கதை எழுதப்படவில்லை என்பது அத்தகையது. உண்மையில் பல மாதம் முன்னரே திரைக்கதை எழுதப்பட்டு பல பிரதிகள் எடுக்கபப்ட்டு அனைவர் கையிலும் அளிக்கப்பட்ட பாலா படம் இது ஒன்றுதான். மற்ற கிசுகிசுக்கள் சும்மா ஏதாவது போடவேண்டுமே என்பதற்காக போடப்பட்டவை.[படம் கிட்டத்தட்ட முடிந்துவிட்டது. ஒரு பத்துநாள் சென்னையில் விடுபட்ட துணுக்குகளை எடுத்தால் நேராக பின் தயாரிப்புவேலைகள் தொடங்கும். படத்தொகுப்பு ஏற்கனவே முக்காற்பங்கு முடிந்துவிட்டது]
  
  ====================
  
  http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/2008/naan-kadavul-arya-pooja-220508.html
  
  This article claims the movie could be released within a month.
  [/tscii]
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu May 22 10:32:58 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  Start afresh pls.

  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu May 22 14:28:10 2008.

  releases in a month?? The audio should be out in a couple of weeks then.. Will there be an audio release at all?? With just one (??) 12 minute song??
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 23 4:18:22 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  mmm..ellaarum fresha start pannungappa! between i saw a movie called dumplings which was based on people eating naramaamisam to attain youthfulness... and i have heard abt the himalayn people eating human flesh for that reason.....they have already told abt hero eating heoine..any linkings?

  
  
  Yes, I read Bala saying there is a small sect of sadhus (called Aghori) still exist today and consume human flesh. He has characters / scenes involving them on screen, looks like the movie will be controversial.
  
  How was Dumplings? Disturbing?
  
  I hope Bala hasn't crossed the line.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 23 4:21:05 2008.

  Naan Kadavul completes shooting
  
  By : Settu Shankar
  
  Finally, Bala completed all his shooting works for his much awaited big budgeted movie Naan Kadavul. If everything goes well with the mood of Bala, the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam.
  
  After nearly two years of shooting, the director has relieved Arya, the hero of Naan Kadavul for Vishnu's project Sarvam, but with a condition. He should not open his mouth about the film to anyone including his family members.
  
  Now, the post production works are going jet speed at Prasad. Meanwhile, in an interview to a Tamil weekly, Bala revealed some shocking details about the film. Earlier Oneindia.in carried a report on the film's basic that it dealt with cannibalism and the gore side of Sadhus. Now, the director also admitted the same and told that there will be something about cannibalism in the climax.
  
  According to him, the film is based on the life and times of gory Sadhus, who are said to be cannibals surviving on the dead on the banks of Ganges at Kasi and other holy places. There have been rumours in Tamil Cinema that there are scenes of Arya an Agory Sadhu consuming Pooja's dead body in the climax.
  
  Fearing whether the censors will clear, the film has shot an alternative climax scene, Bala also shot an alternate climax for the film.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri May 23 4:37:35 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam.

  
  
  
  
  BTW which film is on the making for higher number of days?
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri May 23 4:40:48 2008.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam. BTW which film is on the making for higher number of days?

  
  
  how about Kutrapathirikkai, releasing after very long time
  
  

• From: joe on Fri May 23 4:42:04 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: MrJudge wrote: the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam. BTW which film is on the making for higher number of days? how about Kutrapathirikkai, releasing after very long time

  
  
  But the delay is not becaue of making.
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri May 23 4:43:17 2008.

  joe wrote:

  raaja_rasigan wrote: Sanjeevi wrote: MrJudge wrote: the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam. BTW which film is on the making for higher number of days? how about Kutrapathirikkai, releasing after very long time But the delay is not becaue of making.

  
  
  yeah... thats y i said releasing after a long time!!!!!
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri May 23 4:45:35 2008.

  raaja_rasigan wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: MrJudge wrote: the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam. BTW which film is on the making for higher number of days? how about Kutrapathirikkai, releasing after very long time

  
  
  KP was not in the making for long time, pettikkulla thoongi kittu irunthuchu
  
  

• From: Onion on Fri May 23 5:43:21 2008.

  Quote:

  the film will hit the screens within a month, even before Dasavatharam.

  
  it cannot get any worse for the already disgruntled guy who invested money in nk.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 23 6:31:02 2008.

  The audio should hit the stores pretty soon, atleast before June first week.
  
  

• From: Onion on Fri May 23 6:33:08 2008.

  who scored the music?
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri May 23 6:34:02 2008.

  r_r great signature and avatar
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri May 23 6:35:34 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: mmm..ellaarum fresha start pannungappa! between i saw a movie called dumplings which was based on people eating naramaamisam to attain youthfulness... and i have heard abt the himalayn people eating human flesh for that reason.....they have already told abt hero eating heoine..any linkings? Yes, I read Bala saying there is a small sect of sadhus (called Aghori) still exist today and consume human flesh. He has characters / scenes involving them on screen, looks like the movie will be controversial. How was Dumplings? Disturbing? I hope Bala hasn't crossed the line.

  
  
  andha padaththukku pEru dumblings'aa ... ... naan kooda adhEy maadhiri oru padam paaththEn... i cant speak here abt the film....
  
  andha padaththa paaththuttu 2 naal edhuvumEy saappida mudiyala... orEy vaandhi
  maththa coutries kellaam censor'nu onnu kedayavE kedayaadha...
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri May 23 6:36:23 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  r_r great signature and avatar

  
  
  PR
  
  
  
  Thought of changing to Ilayaraja but by chance got this.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 23 6:40:28 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  andha padaththukku pEru dumblings'aa ... ... naan kooda adhEy maadhiri oru padam paaththEn... i cant speak here abt the film.... andha padaththa paaththuttu 2 naal edhuvumEy saappida mudiyala... orEy vaandhi maththa coutries kellaam censor'nu onnu kedayavE kedayaadha...

  
  
  Dumplings- avvaluvu mosama Vivasaayi ungalukku eppadi?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri May 23 6:46:56 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: andha padaththukku pEru dumblings'aa ... ... naan kooda adhEy maadhiri oru padam paaththEn... i cant speak here abt the film.... andha padaththa paaththuttu 2 naal edhuvumEy saappida mudiyala... orEy vaandhi maththa coutries kellaam censor'nu onnu kedayavE kedayaadha... Dumplings- avvaluvu mosama Vivasaayi ungalukku eppadi?

  
  
  i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism ..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri May 23 6:56:50 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism ..

  
  
  Is that a chinese film and based on Hongkong?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri May 23 6:58:30 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism .. Is that a chinese film and based on Hongkong?

  
  
  i will check it out... because that DVD is in the one of my friend's collections
  
  

• From: CEDYBLUE on Fri May 23 7:06:10 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  r_r great signature and avatar

  
  
  best avatar and signature in recent days! couldn't help but
  
  

• From: raaja_rasigan on Fri May 23 7:21:36 2008.

  CEDYBLUE wrote:

  Prabhu Ram wrote: r_r great signature and avatar best avatar and signature in recent days! couldn't help but

  
  
  
  
  Arasiyalla idhellam satharanamappa
  
  

• From: villan007 on Fri May 23 7:42:09 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism .. Is that a chinese film and based on Hongkong?

  
  
  Cannibal Holocaust
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri May 23 9:41:23 2008.

  villan007 wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: sarna_blr wrote: i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism .. Is that a chinese film and based on Hongkong? Cannibal Holocaust

  romba varusham munnadi indha padatha paaka try panni didnt last beyond 25-30 mts
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Fri May 23 9:55:15 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  I hope Bala hasn't crossed the line.

  
  
  I dont think Bala has ever crossed the line. yes his films are violent and deals with uncharetered territories, but they are always within the acceptable realm IMHO. No gory scenes or blood gushing out from people are shown in his films.
  
  Pithamagan Kadaisi Katchiyila Sithan Mahadevan Kuralvalaiya kadikrathu kooda romba nagaraigamaaga kaamichu irupaar. Kadichu ratham theirkira maathiri kaamichu iruntha kodumaiya irunthu irukkum. He draws a line there unlike Kamal/Shankar/MR (duly inspired by hollywood movies) Whose movies are violent and have a penchant to show blood spilling out all over the screen.
  
  Bala Padangalla Violencea unarthuvarru atha kaatchi padutha maataaru! Bala is one of a kind film maker. avar oru Suyambu
  
  

• From: Devar Magan on Fri May 23 9:57:44 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: I hope Bala hasn't crossed the line. I dont think Bala has ever crossed the line. yes his films are violent and deals with uncharetered territories, but they are always within the acceptable realm IMHO. No gory scenes or blood gushing out from people are shown in his films. Pithamagan Kadaisi Katchiyila Sithan Mahadevan Kuralvalaiya kadikrathu kooda romba nagaraigamaaga kaamichu irupaar. Kadichu ratham theirkira maathiri kaamichu iruntha kodumaiya irunthu irukkum. He draws a line there unlike Kamal/Shankar/MR (duly inspired by hollywood movies) Whose movies are violent and have a penchant to show blood spilling out all over the screen. Bala Padangalla Violencea unarthuvarru atha kaatchi padutha maataaru! Bala is one of a kind film maker. avar oru Suyambu

  well said.. Kamal makes it difficult to see such scenes.. bala makes it watchable
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri May 23 10:05:35 2008.

  suyambu - aahaa.. Indha vaarthaya kEttu evLO naaL aachu.. But I have forgotten the meaning.. What is it?? Unique??
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri May 23 10:11:54 2008.

  suyambu = thanaga valarntha onru
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri May 23 10:21:04 2008.

  thanks sanjeevi...
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Fri May 23 17:08:31 2008.

  Cannibalism as a concept is a taboo for western film makers. When they show it, they demonize the person involved in the act. I am sure that in our country, there have been kaabaligars and other occult sects, whose existence though beyond our comprehension have for sure existed. Existed purely outside the society - a notion that is unacceptable to the western mindset of governance and control where government and society can walk into any such entity/group that live in defiance - living without the need for a society. Sithan in Pithamagan is an allegory - a symbol of existence of an entity that is uncontrollable by society, but bound by bonds of "humanism". That symbolification of untamed presence in defiance of "human society" probably did not reach everyone and I hope that Bala doesn't waste my time or his time in trying to make a movie that will 'reach' them. I would be satisfied if he disregarded the audience(myself included) and expressed himself completely without compromise. Then I can lose myself in awe of an opinion and art, instead of hogwashed and diluted wall painting that most of the mainstream keeps dumping on me in the name of entertainment every friday.
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sat May 24 0:17:58 2008.

  Cannibalism was shown in a very very graphic manner in the movie "Cannibal Holocaust" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust
  the movie was even banned in a few countries! so this is not the first time cannibalism is being handled by a filmmaker!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat May 24 3:00:35 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: sarna_blr wrote: i think both are different... but the movie wt I mentioned is related to cannibalism .. Is that a chinese film and based on Hongkong? i will check it out... because that DVD is in the one of my friend's collections

  
  
  I think as lot of people mentioned here, you would have seen Cannibal Holocaust. Vivasaayi's dumplings is a different movie, I think it is not as bad as CH.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat May 24 3:02:27 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  I dont think Bala has ever crossed the line. yes his films are violent and deals with uncharetered territories, but they are always within the acceptable realm IMHO. No gory scenes or blood gushing out from people are shown in his films. Pithamagan Kadaisi Katchiyila Sithan Mahadevan Kuralvalaiya kadikrathu kooda romba nagaraigamaaga kaamichu irupaar. Kadichu ratham theirkira maathiri kaamichu iruntha kodumaiya irunthu irukkum. He draws a line there unlike Kamal/Shankar/MR (duly inspired by hollywood movies) Whose movies are violent and have a penchant to show blood spilling out all over the screen. Bala Padangalla Violencea unarthuvarru atha kaatchi padutha maataaru! Bala is one of a kind film maker. avar oru Suyambu

  
  
  Yeah, I know what you are saying but my wish is this time also he maintains it.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat May 24 3:06:52 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Cannibalism as a concept is a taboo for western film makers. When they show it, they demonize the person involved in the act. I am sure that in our country, there have been kaabaligars and other occult sects, whose existence though beyond our comprehension have for sure existed. Existed purely outside the society - a notion that is unacceptable to the western mindset of governance and control where government and society can walk into any such entity/group that live in defiance - living without the need for a society. Sithan in Pithamagan is an allegory - a symbol of existence of an entity that is uncontrollable by society, but bound by bonds of "humanism". That symbolification of untamed presence in defiance of "human society" probably did not reach everyone and I hope that Bala doesn't waste my time or his time in trying to make a movie that will 'reach' them. I would be satisfied if he disregarded the audience(myself included) and expressed himself completely without compromise. Then I can lose myself in awe of an opinion and art, instead of hogwashed and diluted wall painting that most of the mainstream keeps dumping on me in the name of entertainment every friday.

  
  
  
  
  That's what he has been doing, instead of giving what people like, he gives what he likes and he scores.
  
  

• From: directhit on Tue May 27 5:23:28 2008.

  not sure if its already posted!!
  http://www.manakkudiyan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/naankadavul.jpg
  http://www.manakkudiyan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/p14a.jpg
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue May 27 8:34:41 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Jokes Apart some more insights about the movie in this blog. http://arya07.skyrock.com/ Quote: Naan Kadavul Cast Arya, Pooja Direction Bala Music Ilayaraja Camera Arthur Wilson It is not easy to sum up the theme of Naan Kadavul with a catchy one-liner. It is also not easy to fix its perspective in one narrow version. Bala's Naan Kadavul has risen above all definitions and views. Rather than routinely evaluating the movie's credits and loopholes, the narrative is more understandable if looked upon as the creator's intense expression expressed through a variety of characters in the visual field. The benefit will be more if the understanding and application are purely left to individual capability and maturity. Contrary to the popular views, branding the film as one based on the debate of atheism vs. religion, the movie revolves around the life of an individual named Rudran. Is he a Godman?Is he the 'Kadavul' in the film? Is he a saint, a person who shuns life, its pain and pleasures? Well, he defies fixed identities awarded to individuals based on their lives and deeds. In a way, he is extraordinary and exudes immense energy; he is furiously driven by an unseen force. Rudran is recognizably different from most human beings, yet one amongst us. Though his looks and manner are unkempt, harsh and misleading, and he does not let his greatness show, the wisdom escapes from within this powerful man. So how does one describe Rudran? For common men, he is bizarre and harmful. But for those who view him profoundly, he is a living power symbolising the combination of the most controversial things in God's creation; he stands for triumphs and evil, light and dark, good and bad; his power and majesty lies principally in his unusual assortment. His ideals are practical, not governed by worldly rules; he is certainly not a device of destruction. But his ferocity singes those who deceive themselves and the world by flaunting their cheap instruments of divinity and who display false power and influence. However, Rudran is not alone; he is flanked by his favourite people, his affectionate associates. These people are physically-challenged and poor. Their fellow men mock at their abnormal physical appearances and treat them as insignificant creatures, as earth's useless burden. But, amid the crushing poverty and societal snubbing, their work-hardened bodies and enlivening smiles know nothing other than love and endurance. For them, Rudran is their master. He is the spirit of God who has come upon earth to guide them, to take them past hazards and loathing. According to Bala, the world's spirituality rests on these people's innocent smiles, germinates on their deeds and matures on their sacred lives. But what if one of them is a member of our own family? What if the suffering lot has an inherent link to us? Naan Kadavul discusses the pain and irony arising out of such a demanding and hypothetical situation. Pooja appears as Amsavalli. Does this pretty lady cast an emotional influence on Rudran? Does it blossom into a full-fledged relationship? Don't miss the intriguing and thought-provoking fare on the big screen to find out more about Rudran, Amsavalli and others who you possibly ignored till now. In his attempt to give life to such a remarkable theme, Bala has taken maximum efforts. He took almost a month to shoot a climax fight. The total shooting has gone on for two years with a lengthy schedule in and around Kasi. With a rough beard and long unkempt locks, Arya is inseperable from Rudran and has come to terms with all his tough ideals. Pooja has transformed into Amsavalli. "In addition to Arya and Pooja, cameraman Arthur Wilson has toiled for the film as much as I have and Ilayaraja's music has pumped life and energy for the film," says Bala. With all these details wrapped up to his satisfaction, Bala is now waiting to market the movie successfully without the usual stance of a creator who holds his product close to his chest and claims it to be the best. "Through Naan Kadavul, I have attracted mankind's attention to a special set of people and through them, I have also put forth a very important question in front of the society. In accomplishing it, I believe I have done my best," says Bala.

  
  

• From: NOV on Tue May 27 22:08:44 2008.

  Let's try once again.
  
  

• From: joe on Tue May 27 22:39:32 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  Let's try once again.

  
  Ofcourse not the same again
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue May 27 23:18:34 2008.

  there is website for Naan Kadavul... http://www.naankadavul.com/
  
  நான் கடவுள் .... அஹம் ப்ரம்மாஸ்மி....
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu May 29 3:45:34 2008.

  Looks like Pyramid Saimira bought the film earlier and now Bala most likely releases the film himself.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat May 31 3:51:36 2008.

  Naan Kadavul to be reduced to half
  By Behindwoods News Bureau.
  May 30, 2008
  
  Naan Kadavul, the project of Bala, Arya and Pooja is finally complete and is ready for post production work. While speaking on his experience of working with a talented director like Bala, Arya feels that he is too lucky to have got such a good break at an early phase in his career and is confidant that his performance is sure to be a bench mark in the coming years for younger actors. He also added that he is finding it difficult to untangle himself from Rudran (his name in the film). He has lived this role for almost two years now.
  
  Meanwhile director Bala is busy now at the editing table. It is said that the length of the film is tantamount to two full length films and would take considerable time to reduce the same. As Bala is known to be a perfectionist, he has shot many scenes in different manner and would use the right one as per his discretion. Secondly controversial sequences also would come under the scissors and may be chopped off. So, after the film gets out of the editing desk, Ilayaraja would work on the music department and Naan Kadavul is expected to be out for Diwali.
  
  Innum Diwali varaikkum wait pannanuma?
  
  

• From: Cinefan on Sat May 31 8:19:57 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Innum Diwali varaikkum wait pannanuma?

  
  
  
  It's been 5 years since his last film released,then what is another 5 months?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat May 31 10:03:25 2008.

  Cinefan wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Innum Diwali varaikkum wait pannanuma? It's been 5 years since his last film released,then what is another 5 months?

  
  
  Yeah, it's been long time. I don't know how much we can trust these websites' news. Every site comes up with its own dates. but sooner is better.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sun Jun 1 6:13:05 2008.

  Just happened to read the AV interview quoted in this thread ages back.
  
  Just can't wait to see the film DeepAvaLi is sooooo far away. Bala
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Sun Jun 1 13:12:40 2008.

  I revisited Pithamagan again and was blown away by its cinematic brilliance. From what I saw in Pithamagan, Bala would have surely done a great job and I can wait for a good film that much more - it is sure a thing worth waiting.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jun 2 8:42:11 2008.

  just one song in the movie?
  
  what abt audio release?
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Jun 2 9:05:35 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  just one song in the movie?

  
  AppidiyA ???
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jun 2 9:34:48 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  just one song in the movie? what abt audio release?

  
  
  one of the accompanying actor on the sets told me this. At 'Kasi' right in the morning everybody including Arya would be given 'Ganja' to smoke! after they are littel high BGM chants Which goes like 'Shivaohm shivaohm...Bhaje hum bhaje hum rudranaama bhaje hum...' will be Played in high decibles... Everyone gets into transcedental state after this session and only then the shooting commences.
  Even people around without smoking ganja would get goosepimples listening to the chant accompanied by thaarai, thappatai, urumi and feel like they themselves are 'Shiva'
  I hope this chant is included in the album
  He sang the song for me and it was really terrific listening to it. ..tha thalaivaroda BGM'oda Kaetta nichayaama SaamiYaada poaren
  
  Ticket Vaangi padam paakra ellorkum Oru 'Pottlamum' Saerthu kudutha nalla irukkum
  
  Need not worry: Reorchestration of 'Maatha un kovilil' & 'Bikshai Paathiram Yaenthi Vanthen' and the much talked about 12 min song along with the Chant Iam Mentioning will make this a great album
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jun 2 11:20:07 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: just one song in the movie? what abt audio release? one of the accompanying actor on the sets told me this. At 'Kasi' right in the morning everybody including Arya would be given 'Ganja' to smoke! after they are littel high BGM chants Which goes like 'Shivaohm shivaohm...Bhaje hum bhaje hum rudranaama bhaje hum...' will be Played in high decibles... Everyone gets into transcedental state after this session and only then the shooting commences. Even people around without smoking ganja would get goosepimples listening to the chant accompanied by thaarai, thappatai, urumi and feel like they themselves are 'Shiva' I hope this chant is included in the album He sang the song for me and it was really terrific listening to it. ..tha thalaivaroda BGM'oda Kaetta nichayaama SaamiYaada poaren Ticket Vaangi padam paakra ellorkum Oru 'Pottlamum' Saerthu kudutha nalla irukkum

  
  
  u mean the psychedelic state ?ilayaraja music can provide u nearly that state even without kanja...idhula kanjavoda
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jun 2 11:38:23 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  u mean the psychedelic state ?ilayaraja music can provide u nearly that state even without kanja...idhula kanjavoda

  
  
  coming from a remote village south of Madurai... I had been a spectator of all those 'thiruvizha's Happening at our village. during those periods when the percussionists are drumming away trying to bring in the Transcedental/Psychedelic state to peoples minds. I've seen and felt Men & women becoming 'Saamis' for a shortwhile.
  
  kottukaraengala suthi ninnuttu Vaaliba payaga ellam Thanniya Pottuttu uruEthu uruEthunnu solli avan Thaaraiyum, thappattaiyum Kizhiya kizhiya Adikka solvom. Konjam Engalukkae Saami vantha Maadhiri Irukkum.
  
  I've never heard those distinct feel of Music from anyother composer than Raaja(Yuvan did it in PV). And Yes Avar Music mattum Kaetta Kadavul madhiri Feeling thaan Varum 'Kanja'oda Kaetta Appuram enna 'Naan Kadavul' Thaan
  
  Bala'kku Thaeni, Poadi Pakkam irunthu special Sarakku Kidaikkum Poala. Athaan avar Ticket Vaangi Cinema Paarkira ellorkkum Oru Pottlam Kodukkanumnu ethirParkiraen
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Jun 4 5:44:51 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: just one song in the movie? what abt audio release? one of the accompanying actor on the sets told me this. At 'Kasi' right in the morning everybody including Arya would be given 'Ganja' to smoke! after they are littel high BGM chants Which goes like 'Shivaohm shivaohm...Bhaje hum bhaje hum rudranaama bhaje hum...' will be Played in high decibles... Everyone gets into transcedental state after this session and only then the shooting commences. Even people around without smoking ganja would get goosepimples listening to the chant accompanied by thaarai, thappatai, urumi and feel like they themselves are 'Shiva' I hope this chant is included in the album He sang the song for me and it was really terrific listening to it. ..tha thalaivaroda BGM'oda Kaetta nichayaama SaamiYaada poaren Ticket Vaangi padam paakra ellorkum Oru 'Pottlamum' Saerthu kudutha nalla irukkum Need not worry: Reorchestration of 'Maatha un kovilil' & 'Bikshai Paathiram Yaenthi Vanthen' and the much talked about 12 min song along with the Chant Iam Mentioning will make this a great album

  
  
  Insiders ellam vachchirikeengala? thanks for the info.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Mon Jun 16 14:58:18 2008.

  My only hope left.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jun 16 22:47:17 2008.

  innum release date sollama manda kaayuthu
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Jun 16 22:50:21 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  My only hope left.

  
  Mine too. Also saroja. This year has been terrible for tamil movies. Only anjAthE was impressive
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Jun 16 22:53:10 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  jaiganes wrote: My only hope left. Mine too. Also saroja. This year has been terrible for tamil movies. Only anjAthE was impressive

  
  I also liked Oram Po.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jun 16 23:00:14 2008.

  jaiganes wrote:

  My only hope left.

  
  
  yen Yogi mela nambikkai illaiya?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Jun 16 23:00:56 2008.

  PR, Oram pO was 2007. There were at least 7-8 good movies last year.....
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Jun 16 23:02:14 2008.

  I have heard a lot of anjaadhE but have not had the opportunity to watch it.
  
  yes PR, OrampO was good, and so was SaSu, but I hope these kind of movies dont become the best of the year What a dramatic fall from last year (kalloori, evanO oruvan, etc etc)!
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Mon Jun 16 23:11:23 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  I have heard a lot of anjaadhE but have not had the opportunity to watch it. yes PR, OrampO was good, and so was SaSu, but I hope these kind of movies dont become the best of the year What a dramatic fall from last year (kalloori, evanO oruvan, etc etc)!

  
  SaSu was a OK time pass movie (thanks to the script)... But I was unable to bear Jeyam Ravi... If it would had been some other hero instead of him it would have been really nice... Jeyam Ravi can't act for nuts! I have no clue how come he has so many "thaikulam" fans who are his partners in crime in making his movies a BO hit...
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Jun 16 23:40:05 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  PR, Oram pO was 2007.

  Oh ! I saw it in Jan hence the confusion.
  

  Nerd wrote:

  There were at least 7-8 good movies last year.....

  True. It was very promising.
  
  Despite Chennai-28, somehow I am not too enthusiastic about Saroja. Something keeps telling me it was a one-off. I'll be glad to be proved wrong.
  
  

• From: joe on Mon Jun 16 23:41:10 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Despite Chennai-28, somehow I am not too enthusiastic about Saroja. Something keeps telling me it was a one-off. I'll be glad to be proved wrong.

  
  
  Exactly my thoughts
  
  

• From: NOV on Mon Jun 16 23:48:39 2008.

  mine too.
  
  almost half a year has passed and not even one good movie. thamizh cinemavOda edhirkaalaththa nenechaa bayamaa irukku.
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Mon Jun 16 23:55:03 2008.

  Saroja has a story similar to that of Dasa or Chaos Effect.... All these guys go to watch a cricket match and on the way an incident happens which turns things around and what happens in the next 24 hours is what we wud see in theatres.....
  
  Screenplay holds the key here also...
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Tue Jun 17 0:17:53 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  mine too. almost half a year has passed and not even one good movie. thamizh cinemavOda edhirkaalaththa nenechaa bayamaa irukku.

  
  Don't worry 6 more months to go... Chennai-kkum Oru Mazhai Kalam varum - if you know what I mean...
  Somehow, I'm not expecting too much out of Naan Kadavul... I hope Bala proves me wrong
  
  

• From: NOV on Tue Jun 17 0:51:53 2008.

  For me Bala's films have all been too dark and personally I have never marked any of them as the best of that year. paarpOm.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Jun 17 1:05:30 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  For me Bala's films have all been too dark and personally I have never marked any of them as the best of that year. paarpOm.

  
  
  Sethu was excellent
  Pithamagan-- Surya charactor was good and the Simran Dance--- IR music.. thats all...
  Nandha---
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Tue Jun 17 11:53:44 2008.

  I saw one movie recently - Kannum Kannum.
  It was a good idea and somehow something in the movie was missing. But Prasanna's acting was superb. This is the bane of our movies - there are brilliant things in the movie, some freshness of idea is also there with the oung directors, but when it comes to combining them as a whole into one good movie, sme things go terribly wrong.
  I must say that Kannum Kannum was marred by an uninspring Vadivelu Kadi track that spoiled the whole fun of the movie which was coming along quite nicely.
  With Bala's movies - they never compete for the best movie of the year or most popular movie of the year - They simply are a statement on state of mind and it is not everybody's cup of tea.
  They are like Balu Mahendra's movies moody - however at a level they try to be forcefully sensational. It is like take a balu mahendra movies and try to make them a little bit sensational - meaning - maximise the impact - so there is no balance - yet they convey something and convey strongly - This always creates split opinions on them and that is not too bad. A movie should push you at some level and in that aspect, they evoke strong feelings from the audience instead of treating them as inert objects.
  Bala and his movies are enigmas and much like enigmas in our life they make an interesting spectacle - the key word is INTERESTING.
  
  

• From: Mahen on Wed Jun 18 10:18:32 2008.

  Though 1st half of 2008 lack of good movies, i think 2nd half is gona be the opposite. Im afraid many good films will end up clashing with each other...NOV, many good films will be coming out this year..Im looking forward to the following, which i think will be critically acclaimed and commercially successful :
  - varanam ayiram
  - kandhasamy
  - abhiyum naanum
  - ayan
  - naan kadavul
  - ananda thandavam
  - ayirathil oruvan
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Jun 18 10:26:16 2008.

  I've sort of given up hope Mahen. Feeling very frustrated and depressed.
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Jun 18 10:28:18 2008.

  Mahen wrote:

  Though 1st half of 2008 lack of good movies, i think 2nd half is gona be the opposite. Im afraid many good films will end up clashing with each other...NOV, many good films will be coming out this year..Im looking forward to the following, which i think will be critically acclaimed and commercially successful : - varanam ayiram - kandhasamy - abhiyum naanum - ayan - naan kadavul - ananda thandavam - ayirathil oruvan

  
  
  KusEylan, Aegan & Chennayil Oru MazhaikAlam???
  
  

• From: NOV on Wed Jun 18 10:29:50 2008.

  enna kodumai Yoga idhu? vendha punnula vEla paaichara
  
  

• From: Thalafanz on Wed Jun 18 10:31:47 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  enna kodumai Yoga idhu? vendha punnula vEla paaichara

  
  
  What did I say???
  Perhaps Mahen bro has missed out those 3 movies in his list...
  
  

• From: Mahen on Wed Jun 18 10:51:49 2008.

  TF, I mentioned 'critically acclaimed and commercially successful'...Kuselan,aegan,COMK,villu,saroja,padikathavan, sarvam are all complete commercial movies..I think story wise it wont be great..
  
  

• From: Mahen on Wed Jun 18 10:54:07 2008.

  NOV wrote:

  I've sort of given up hope Mahen. Feeling very frustrated and depressed.

  
  
  I know why..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 18 11:07:58 2008.

  mahen, please exclude kannsamy from the list..
  What's ayan/abiyum naanum/aanandha thaaNdavam??
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jun 18 11:15:03 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  mahen, please exclude kannsamy from the list.. What's ayan/abiyum naanum/aanandha thaaNdavam??

  
  
  Ayan is Surya's next after VA... K.V.Anand direction... commercial padam than
  
  Abhiyuim naanum is Radhamohan's.. Trisha and PR
  
  

• From: villan007 on Wed Jun 18 11:17:04 2008.

  Mahen wrote:

  I think story wise it wont be great..

  
  
  Kandhasaamy mattum enna thirai ulagam kaanatha story-a.. another film based on Gentleman/Indian concept
  
  

• From: Mahen on Wed Jun 18 11:18:31 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  mahen, please exclude kannsamy from the list.. What's ayan/abiyum naanum/aanandha thaaNdavam??

  
  
  WHy nerd? I think kansamy will have a good story..(i may be wrong)..
  Ayan-the kana kandein team(kv anand-subha)
  Abhiyaum naanum - Radha mohan's take on father-daughter rship
  Anandham thandavam - ambitious adaptation of sujatha's pirivom santhipom..PS is one of sujatha's best selling novels
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Jun 18 11:18:37 2008.

  Also I don't think 1 in 1000 is slated for a 08 release.. So I think NK still stands as the only worthy contender for the critics award
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jun 19 2:49:57 2008.

  Mahen wrote:

  Though 1st half of 2008 lack of good movies, i think 2nd half is gona be the opposite. Im afraid many good films will end up clashing with each other...NOV, many good films will be coming out this year..Im looking forward to the following, which i think will be critically acclaimed and commercially successful : - varanam ayiram - kandhasamy - abhiyum naanum - ayan - naan kadavul - ananda thandavam - ayirathil oruvan

  
  
  I think NK and Yogi will be the only two movies coming under "critically acclaimed and commercially successful" category this year. Lets see
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jun 19 3:00:35 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Mahen wrote: Though 1st half of 2008 lack of good movies, i think 2nd half is gona be the opposite. Im afraid many good films will end up clashing with each other...NOV, many good films will be coming out this year..Im looking forward to the following, which i think will be critically acclaimed and commercially successful : - varanam ayiram - kandhasamy - abhiyum naanum - ayan - naan kadavul - ananda thandavam - ayirathil oruvan I think NK and Yogi will be the only two movies coming under "critically acclaimed and commercially successful" category this year. Lets see

  
  
  YOGI is being directed by the director of THIRUDA THIRUDI director...
  
  Mr.Judge, idhu ungalukkEy Overaa theriyalaa...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jun 19 3:21:21 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  YOGI is being directed by the director of THIRUDA THIRUDI director... Mr.Judge, idhu ungalukkEy Overaa theriyalaa...

  
  
  I have hopes on this film because story, screenplay and dialogues are done by Ameer, so it will be different from Thiruda thirudi (azhaga irukkaanga song alone was enough for me to stay away from that film). As we already know the involvement shown by Ameer in his projects, I can safely bet on this project. I will watch it FD and give you a review.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jul 7 13:31:38 2008.

  http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/july/070708b.asp
  
  

• From: Nasc on Mon Jul 7 17:00:19 2008.

  Have great expectations on Naan Kadavul--hope it would be talking of supernatural powers...proclaimed/exhibited by Saddhu's of Beneras.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Jul 16 7:27:39 2008.

  Bala and Pyramid Saimira at loggerheads
  July 16, 2008
  
  Bala has finally wrapped up his directorial venture Naan Kadavul but problems seem to be chasing him. But then, the project was embroiled in controversies and problems ever since it was kick started a couple of years ago. Initially, Bala had agreed to direct the film on a first copy basis for Raja Lakshmi Films for a sum of Rs. 3.5 crores. But the production washed its hands off the project and Pyramid Saimira chipped in to complete the film in a budget of about Rs. 7 crores. With the film almost complete, director Bala informed Pyramid Saimira that Naan Kadavul’s budget had reached Rs. 15 crores and insisted that the production house pay the remaining amount and get the film’s copy. This had naturally irked the production house and they have lodged a complaint at the Producer’s Council. Sources say that the Producers’ Council is mediating with both the parties to arrive at an amicable solution.
  
  
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Wed Jul 16 7:32:43 2008.

  Yes, this news came in today's Dinakaran also. Porumaya romba soadhikkiranga....
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jul 21 7:19:13 2008.

  'Naan Kadavul' nears completion
  IndiaGlitz [Monday, July 21, 2008]
  
  Director Bala's 'Naan Kadavul' is gearing up for release finally. The movie featuring Arya and Pooja was in the making for over a year. Amidst delay due to various reasons, Bala completed the movie recently and the post production work is going on.
  
  A few sources are still of the opinion that there could still be a slight delay as talks are on between two warring sides.
  
  Meanwhile, Bala has been roped in to do a movie for C TV Entertainment. He has been reportedly paid a hefty sum for the project. The story is ready while search is on for the star cast.
  
  * sila varushamachchu....
  
  * Glad to read the next movie is on track....
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Jul 21 7:23:45 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  , Bala has been roped in to do a movie for C TV Entertainment. * Glad to read the next movie is on track....

  
  
  r u sure that he will be the producer for ever...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jul 21 7:27:25 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  r u sure that he will be the producer for ever...

  
  
  antha kavalai namakkethukku. Bala-vin aduththa padam vandhaa tamil film fanskku nallathu thaane
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Jul 21 7:29:06 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: r u sure that he will be the producer for ever... antha kavalai namakkethukku. Bala-vin aduththa padam vandhaa tamil film fanskku nallathu thaane

  
  
  Its better to talk abt current film..... padam vandhaa tamil film fanskku nallathu thaan
  
  

• From: Alek Niranjan on Mon Aug 4 12:21:40 2008.

  -deleted with warning-
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Aug 25 5:29:32 2008.

  ZEE TV to buy Njan Kadavul?
  By Moviebuzz | Monday, 25 August , 2008, 13:29
  
  After a long slumber, director Bala is back in the news. Now he is trying to negotiate with Zee TV to buy his magnum opus Njan Kadavul, at his price.
  
  Bala had originally started the project with P.L Thenappan as producer. Half way through, he got out of it by working out a deal with Pyramid Saimira. The deal saw PS taking over the project for Rs 7 crore, on first copy basis.
  
  After Bala completed this Arya- Pooja starrer in nearly 300 shooting days, his budget went haywire. He wanted the deal to be re-negotiated with PS and asked for a 100 percent increase in the rate. A bitter battle started as PS was not in any position to increase the budget.
  
  Meanwhile Zee TV who has been planning to set up a Tamil movie and entertainment channel has been pro-active in buying new film titles.
  
  They snapped up Subramaniapuram before release for a whopping Rs 1.05 crore, smelling a hit. Now the same title is worth three times the value, after the film turned out to be a blockbuster.
  
  Zee is also into buying films under production which they would distribute. As a part of aggressive content aggregation they have offered Bala a cool Rs 14 crore!
  
  They want to be the world negative right holder for Njaan Kadavul, which includes audio, theatrical domestic and international, television and all other rights.
  
  --------------------------------------------------------------
  
  Seems like the movie will come out soon
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Sep 9 2:01:21 2008.

  Njaan Kadavul- Arya, Pooja
  Director- Bala
  Producer- Zee TV
  Present Status- Shoot over. Dubbing commenced.
  
  The movie is releasing on Diwali.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Sep 9 2:08:35 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Njaan Kadavul- Arya, Pooja Director- Bala Producer- Zee TV Present Status- Shoot over. Dubbing commenced. The movie is releasing on Diwali.

  
  
  which year
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Sep 9 2:12:25 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  which year

  
  
  saar athu thAn saar theriyala
  
  

• From: directhit on Tue Sep 9 2:13:18 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Njaan Kadavul- Arya, Pooja Director- Bala Producer- Zee TV Present Status- Shoot over. Dubbing commenced. The movie is releasing on Diwali.

  
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Tue Sep 9 2:39:29 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Njaan Kadavul- Arya, Pooja Director- Bala Producer- Zee TV Present Status- Shoot over. Dubbing commenced. The movie is releasing on Diwali.

  
  
  vayithula beera vaartheenga...
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Tue Sep 9 2:59:12 2008.

  I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward..
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Tue Sep 9 3:20:10 2008.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward..

  
  
  2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Sep 9 3:24:43 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward.. 2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai

  
  
  nandha also Deepawali along with nandhu Aalavandhaan
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Tue Sep 9 9:20:29 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  VENKIRAJA wrote: I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward.. 2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai

  
  
  Ithu rombavum over...5 years??...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Sep 24 6:57:44 2008.

  Zee buys Naan Kadavul for Rs. 16 crores
  
  Prasanna Singh [September 23, 2008, 4:04:13 PM]
  
  Zee Network, which has entered Tamil media world, has acquired its first big time film. It has bought Bala’s Naan Kadavul for Rs. 16 crores, which cost Rs.14 crores to make. Zee TV, which will start a Tamil TV channel very soon, has realized that it will have to own the rights of various famous Tamil films to be successful in the local films in the TV circuit. With this plan, it has bought the rights of this much-hyped film, which will surely do well for its offbeat theme. With its experience and revenue, Zee poses a great challenge to local Tamil channels such as Kalaignar or Sun network.
  
  Naan Kadavul, starring Arya and Pooja, was in the making for the past two years. The film’s theme is bold, novel, and never-been-tried before! It delves into unfathomable and obscure minds and lives of godmen and those with altered states of mind. The film traces the life of Aghori sadhus, a sect that practices necrophagous cannibalism, i.e. they feed on human corpses. Aghoris eat parts of corpses left afloat in the Ganges; some aghoris claim it gives them immortality and supernatural powers, while others claim it gives them moksha. The film also concentrates on the minds of mentally- and physically-challenged people and how they develop an altered state of mind to overcome what society sees as a shortcoming. In fact, some of their ideologies will force one to redefine the boundaries of sanity or physical handicaps.
  
  There is no filmmaker other than Bala who has tried such an obscure subject before. Bala’s fascination with these people who live with an altered state of mind results in a valuable presentation called Naan Kadavul, which is a definite tool that can help humanity expand their knowledge.
  
  The film is planned for release on Diwali.
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Wed Sep 24 7:06:29 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  The film is planned for release on Diwali.[/tscii]

  
  
  Hope to see atleast the ads, in newspapers & TV, soon.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Sep 24 7:12:03 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: The film is planned for release on Diwali.[/tscii] Hope to see atleast the ads, in newspapers & TV, soon.

  
  
  Yeah... Also no updates on the official site yet http://www.naankadavul.com/
  
  

• From: rangan_08 on Wed Sep 24 7:25:54 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Yeah... Also no updates on the official site yet http://www.naankadavul.com/

  
  
  adhu pala varushama appadiyedhan thoongudhu....
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 24 10:35:39 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward.. 2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai nandha also Deepawali along with nandhu Aalavandhaan

  
  
  appo Thavasi release aachunu ninaikkiraen
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Sep 24 10:39:18 2008.

  honestraj, unga kadamai unarchikku alave illayaa??
  
  naan kadavul padam, eppo thaan release aagum??
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 24 10:41:03 2008.

  Anban wrote:

  honestraj, unga kadamai unarchikku alave illayaa??

  
  
  
  
  edho nammal mudinjadhu... aanal nan solvadhu max. correct'ah irukkum
  
  

• From: Anban on Wed Sep 24 11:13:34 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Anban wrote: honestraj, unga kadamai unarchikku alave illayaa?? edho nammal mudinjadhu... aanal nan solvadhu max. correct'ah irukkum

  ofcourse its damn right..
  
  puyal adichu polachavanum irukkaan.. aaana, intha boopathi adichu polachavaney kedaiyaathula..
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 24 11:23:08 2008.

  
  
  

• From: Ramakrishna on Wed Sep 24 11:26:05 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  
  
  Che.. oru VV waste aayiduchu
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Wed Sep 24 11:28:51 2008.

  Ramakrishna wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Che.. oru VV waste aayiduchu

  
  
  ada pavi.. summa pesunale vv'ah.. (read like vadivelu style)
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Thu Sep 25 2:16:59 2008.

  So NK going to release soon
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Sep 25 2:19:47 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: HonestRaj wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward.. 2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai nandha also Deepawali along with nandhu Aalavandhaan appo Thavasi release aachunu ninaikkiraen

  
  
  I don't know why,I'm for the past three minutes or so.
  R_R...
  "AnAlum ungappA romba pOlice-A irukArdA" range-la irundhuchu!
  
  

• From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Sep 25 2:20:54 2008.

  Anban wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Anban wrote: honestraj, unga kadamai unarchikku alave illayaa?? edho nammal mudinjadhu... aanal nan solvadhu max. correct'ah irukkum ofcourse its damn right.. puyal adichu polachavanum irukkaan.. aaana, intha boopathi adichu polachavaney kedaiyaathula..

  
  
  thuLasi vAsam mARinAlum,thavasi vArtha mARa mAttAndA...aagn!
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Sep 25 2:26:20 2008.

  -repeat-
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Sep 25 2:26:47 2008.

  VENKIRAJA wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: sarna_blr wrote: HonestRaj wrote: VENKIRAJA wrote: I suppose his last movie also released in Diwali.Looking forward.. 2003 Diwali, along with Anjaneya, Thirumalai nandha also Deepawali along with nandhu Aalavandhaan appo Thavasi release aachunu ninaikkiraen I don't know why,I'm for the past three minutes or so. R_R... "AnAlum ungappA romba pOlice-A irukArdA" range-la irundhuchu!

  
  
  Venky but Thavasi was Super hit movie
  Nandha was Hit
  Aalavandhaan was a washout
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Oct 3 7:13:31 2008.

  Is NK coming out for Diwali or not? No confirmed word yet.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Oct 3 7:37:55 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Is NK coming out for Diwali or not? No confirmed word yet.

  
  
  2009'naa doubt dhaan may be 2010 diwali
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Oct 3 7:51:12 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Is NK coming out for Diwali or not? No confirmed word yet. 2009'naa doubt dhaan may be 2010 diwali

  
  
  
  
  Not for diwali for sure judge. May be in November/Dec.
  
  Oru advt/news kooda kaanom
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Oct 3 8:09:52 2008.

  viraajan wrote:

  Not for diwali for sure judge. May be in November/Dec. Oru advt/news kooda kaanom

  
  
  The film went to post production last month itself. Movies not even in the finished stage yet are releasing this month, so why not NK?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Oct 3 8:14:32 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Not for diwali for sure judge. May be in November/Dec. Oru advt/news kooda kaanom The film went to post production last month itself. Movies not even in the finished stage yet are releasing his month, so why not NK?

  
  
  Oh... I dint know that the movie went to PP last month. Hmmm... lets wait... :confused:
  
  Betw, bala moive,
  Direction-ku 2 years aachu. PP-ku 3-4 months edukkalam illaya...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Oct 3 8:15:57 2008.

  viraajan wrote:

  Oh... I dint know that the movie went to PP last month. Hmmm... lets wait... :confused: Betw, bala moive, Direction-ku 2 years aachu. PP-ku 3-4 months edukkalam illaya...

  
  
  According to Sify, only four movies are releasing this Diwali and NK is not in the list.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Fri Oct 3 11:55:58 2008.

  BTW, judge, during my latest visit to India and chat with my cousin confirmed that (to me ), bala is from madurai neighborhood as it was claimed and said in magazines and he is not from ramanathapuram as falsely claimed!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Oct 3 13:30:47 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  BTW, judge, during my latest visit to India and chat with my cousin confirmed that (to me ), bala is from madurai neighborhood as it was claimed and said in magazines and he is not from ramanathapuram as falsely claimed!

  
  
  
  
  I also hope someday you will accept my stand about Central cinema issue through one of Sasi's intereviews.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Fri Oct 3 13:33:56 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: BTW, judge, during my latest visit to India and chat with my cousin confirmed that (to me ), bala is from madurai neighborhood as it was claimed and said in magazines and he is not from ramanathapuram as falsely claimed! I also hope someday you will accept my stand about Central cinema issue through one of Sasi's intereviews.

  
  
  Extrapolation- A
  
  I can pretend like accpeting even today but ..!
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Oct 3 13:43:17 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  Extrapolation- A I can pretend like accpeting even today but ..!

  
  
  No, that is my guess. A guy who even concentrated on the pAndian pOkkuvaraththu kazhagam's logo on a bus can't do that kind of mistake.
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Sat Oct 4 9:16:47 2008.

  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/upcoming-movies/naan-kadavul.html
  
  Bala’s return with a subject that has hoisted more controversy than anything else in Kollywood.
  
  HIGHS:
  Bala’s mastery of the craft and the curiosity factor.
  
  LOWS:
  Will it ever make it to theaters?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Oct 4 10:01:44 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/upcoming-movies/naan-kadavul.html

  
  
  That still summa jillunu irukku.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Oct 4 10:03:11 2008.

  but andha still came in AV a year ago
  
  pudhusa edhavadhu podungappa
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Oct 4 10:11:55 2008.

  viraajan wrote:

  but andha still came in AV a year ago pudhusa edhavadhu podungappa

  
  
  Yes, there were quite a few stills released and this is one among them and even now it looks so fresh.
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Sat Oct 4 11:33:27 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  thamiz wrote: BTW, judge, during my latest visit to India and chat with my cousin confirmed that (to me ), bala is from madurai neighborhood as it was claimed and said in magazines and he is not from ramanathapuram as falsely claimed!

  
  
  Bala is from theni....right?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Oct 6 0:13:50 2008.

  vasanth2006 wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: thamiz wrote: BTW, judge, during my latest visit to India and chat with my cousin confirmed that (to me ), bala is from madurai neighborhood as it was claimed and said in magazines and he is not from ramanathapuram as falsely claimed! Bala is from theni....right?

  
  
  Last month Bala went to Varanasi. He is from varanasi right
  
  Bala padam varuthaannu therila
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Oct 6 1:07:08 2008.

  vasanth2006 wrote:

  Bala is from theni....right?

  
  
  Yes, he is from thEni kambam area.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Oct 6 1:08:42 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Last month Bala went to Varanasi. He is from varanasi right

  
  
  
  
  

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Bala padam varuthaannu therila

  
  
  Nov/Dec release mAthiri theriyuthu.
  
  

• From: A.ANAND on Mon Oct 13 22:55:24 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Last month Bala went to Varanasi. He is from varanasi right Thirumaran wrote: Bala padam varuthaannu therila Nov/Dec release mAthiri theriyuthu.

  
  padam intha jenmathila varathu pola thriyuthu
  
  

• From: leosimha on Wed Oct 22 7:54:40 2008.

  Quote:

  Aamir Khan’s as cannibal! October 21, 2008 Aamir Khan is almost done with the Hindi version of Ghajini directed by Murugadoss and this film is expected to hit the screens soon. Meanwhile, Bollywood is buzzing with news that Aamir will star in the remake of the famous Hollywood flick Hannibal. A south Indian director, who remains unnamed as of now, is expected to wield the megaphone for this venture. Aamir will play a cannibal in the film, and our sources have it that the actor is already keenly studying the mannerisms of the flesh eating animals as well as the butchers.

  
  
  Link - http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/oct-08-03/aamir-khan-21-10-08.html
  
  so who is that south indian director? is it bala?
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Oct 22 8:31:25 2008.

  leosimha wrote:

  so who is that south indian director? is it bala?

  
  
  Bala directing a hindi film?? I don't think so and not even in dreams. He has accepted his next project for CTV. So he will be busy for the next couple of years.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Wed Oct 22 8:33:46 2008.

  leosimha wrote:

  Quote: Aamir Khan’s as cannibal! October 21, 2008 Aamir Khan is almost done with the Hindi version of Ghajini directed by Murugadoss and this film is expected to hit the screens soon. Meanwhile, Bollywood is buzzing with news that Aamir will star in the remake of the famous Hollywood flick Hannibal. A south Indian director, who remains unnamed as of now, is expected to wield the megaphone for this venture. Aamir will play a cannibal in the film, and our sources have it that the actor is already keenly studying the mannerisms of the flesh eating animals as well as the butchers. Link - http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/oct-08-03/aamir-khan-21-10-08.html so who is that south indian director? is it bala?

  
  
  
  
  Bayangaramana kadhaiya irukke
  
  Who is that lucky dir?
  Perarasu???
  
  

• From: irir123 on Wed Oct 22 12:18:36 2008.

  there are two directors who are known for rehashes and remakes - Priyadharshan and Murugadoss - it could be one of these!
  
  

• From: leosimha on Thu Oct 23 1:21:43 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  leosimha wrote: so who is that south indian director? is it bala? Bala directing a hindi film?? I don't think so and not even in dreams. He has accepted his next project for CTV. So he will be busy for the next couple of years.

  
  
  I asked this coz I heard that Naan Kadavul is also about the person being a cannibal or turning one.
  
  by the way, who is CTV?
  
  

• From: sakthii on Thu Oct 23 4:42:54 2008.

  Naan Kadavul eppa release pannuvaanga?
  
  eduthavaraikumavathu release pannungappa...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Oct 23 5:20:35 2008.

  sakthii wrote:

  Naan Kadavul eppa release pannuvaanga? eduthavaraikumavathu release pannungappa...

  
  
  most likely in Dec '08 or Jan '09...
  
  

• From: complicateur on Thu Oct 23 12:36:00 2008.

  India-vil paarkkumbadiyAga Jan '09 il release-aga vendumendru "nAn kadavuL"-ai vEndik koLgirEn.
  
  

• From: bimmer on Thu Oct 23 17:25:50 2008.

  complicateur wrote:

  India-vil paarkkumbadiyAga Jan '09 il release-aga vendumendru "nAn kadavuL"-ai vEndik koLgirEn.

  
  
  First Release aganumnu vendi kollungal
  
  Apporam Jan'09 la release aganumnu vendungal palikum
  
  I honestly dont believe it is worth the wait
  
  

• From: bimmer on Thu Oct 23 17:27:23 2008.

  viraajan wrote:

  leosimha wrote: Quote: Aamir Khan’s as cannibal! October 21, 2008 Aamir Khan is almost done with the Hindi version of Ghajini directed by Murugadoss and this film is expected to hit the screens soon. Meanwhile, Bollywood is buzzing with news that Aamir will star in the remake of the famous Hollywood flick Hannibal. A south Indian director, who remains unnamed as of now, is expected to wield the megaphone for this venture. Aamir will play a cannibal in the film, and our sources have it that the actor is already keenly studying the mannerisms of the flesh eating animals as well as the butchers. Link - http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/oct-08-03/aamir-khan-21-10-08.html so who is that south indian director? is it bala? Bayangaramana kadhaiya irukke Who is that lucky dir? Perarasu???

  
  
  
  If there don't release it quickly there are high possiblities that the Producer might turn Cannibal
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Oct 24 0:33:43 2008.

  bimmer wrote:

  complicateur wrote: India-vil paarkkumbadiyAga Jan '09 il release-aga vendumendru "nAn kadavuL"-ai vEndik koLgirEn. First Release aganumnu vendi kollungal Apporam Jan'09 la release aganumnu vendungal palikum

  
  
  Poara Poakka paartha.. Aadum Koothu Padatha theater la release panrathukku munnaala Zee Tamil Channel telecast panna maathiri, ithayum panniduvaanga poala
  
  

• From: great on Mon Oct 27 10:18:01 2008.

  When is the move or the audio releasing
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 14 3:18:49 2008.

  puthu sOthanai for NK????
  
  "We had earlier reported that theater owners from Coimbatore, North Arcot and Trichy had come up in arms against the producers and distributors of Kuselan stating that the promised compensation package was yet to reach them. A meeting to decide further course of action was held in Chennai where it has been declared that the exhibitors would not cooperate with any new releases of Pyramid Saimira or Kavithalaya.
  
  The films that are awaiting release immediately and are expected to be affected by this announcement are Naan Kadavul and Thiruvannamalai. Naan Kadavul is a Pyramid Saimira production which has been sold outright to Zee TV. Yet, the exhibitors are not willing to cooperate with the movie which has already been hugely delayed due to various reasons."
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 14 3:50:28 2008.

  "நான் கடவுள் படத்தை முடித்து விட்ட இயக்குநர் பாலா, சில காட்சிகளை திருப்பி ஷூட் செய்துள்ளாராம்.
  
  இயக்குநர் பாலா இழைத்து இழைத்து உருவாக்கியுள்ள படம் நான் கடவுள். ஆர்யா, பூஜா இணைந்து நடித்துள்ளனர். வித்தியாசமான கதைக் களத்துடன் கூடிய இப்படம் மிகப் பிரமாதமாக வந்திருப்பதாக பாலா தனது நெருங்கிய வட்டாரத்திடம் கூறி வருகிறார்.
  
  படத்திற்கு இசைஞானி இளையராஜா அற்புதமான பாடல்களைப் போட்டுக் கொடுத்துள்ளாராம். குறிப்பாக ரீ ரெக்கார்டிங் மிரட்டும் என்று கூறுகிறார்கள்.
  
  பாலாவுக்கு படத்தை விட அதில் நடித்த ஆர்யா, பூஜா மீது பரம சந்தோஷமாம். இருவரும் நடிப்பில் மிரட்டியிருக்கிறார்கள். இப்படத்துக்குப் பின்னர் எங்கேயோ போகப் போகிறார்கள் என்றும் கூறி வருகிறார்.
  
  படம் முடிந்து விட்ட நிலையில் சில காட்சிகளில் பாலாவுக்கு திருப்தி போதவில்லையாம். இதனால் அந்தக் காட்சிகளை மட்டும் ரீ ஷூட் செய்துள்ளாராம்.
  
  படம் தொடர்பான நகாசு வேலைகள் வேகமாக நடந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறதாம். பொங்கலுக்கு கடவுளைக் கண்ணில் காட்ட திட்டமிட்டுள்ளாராம் பாலா."
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Fri Nov 14 3:50:38 2008.

  இன்னும் முடியாத 'கடவுள்'!
  
  

  Quote:

  நான் கடவுள் படத்தை முடித்து விட்ட இயக்குநர் பாலா, சில காட்சிகளை திருப்பி ஷூட் செய்துள்ளாராம். இயக்குநர் பாலா இழைத்து இழைத்து உருவாக்கியுள்ள படம் நான் கடவுள். ஆர்யா, பூஜா இணைந்து நடித்துள்ளனர். வித்தியாசமான கதைக் களத்துடன் கூடிய இப்படம் மிகப் பிரமாதமாக வந்திருப்பதாக பாலா தனது நெருங்கிய வட்டாரத்திடம் கூறி வருகிறார். படத்திற்கு இசைஞானி இளையராஜா அற்புதமான பாடல்களைப் போட்டுக் கொடுத்துள்ளாராம். குறிப்பாக ரீ ரெக்கார்டிங் மிரட்டும் என்று கூறுகிறார்கள். பாலாவுக்கு படத்தை விட அதில் நடித்த ஆர்யா, பூஜா மீது பரம சந்தோஷமாம். இருவரும் நடிப்பில் மிரட்டியிருக்கிறார்கள். இப்படத்துக்குப் பின்னர் எங்கேயோ போகப் போகிறார்கள் என்றும் கூறி வருகிறார். படம் முடிந்து விட்ட நிலையில் சில காட்சிகளில் பாலாவுக்கு திருப்தி போதவில்லையாம். இதனால் அந்தக் காட்சிகளை மட்டும் ரீ ஷூட் செய்துள்ளாராம். படம் தொடர்பான நகாசு வேலைகள் வேகமாக நடந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறதாம். பொங்கலுக்கு கடவுளைக் கண்ணில் காட்ட திட்டமிட்டுள்ளாராம் பாலா.

  
  
  சிக்கிரம் கருனை காட்டு 'கடவுளே'
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Fri Nov 14 3:53:22 2008.

  Judge,
  
  Namma redu peru thaan inga intha padathu mela romba aarvamaa irukkom poala (Velikuththu seirathukku thayaraa irukkira sila 'star' rasigargal thavirththu )
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 14 4:01:56 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Judge, Namma redu peru thaan inga intha padathu mela romba aarvamaa irukkom poala (Velikuththu seirathukku thayaraa irukkira sila 'star' rasigargal thavirththu )

  
  
  Looks like it But padam nichchayam pEsumnu thONuthu. veLikkuththu, uLkuththu rasigargaL will come and appreciate it, lets wait for the action!
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Nov 14 4:04:33 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Judge, Namma redu peru thaan inga intha padathu mela romba aarvamaa irukkom poala

  
  I've been waiting ever since Bala did that "karumbu, pattAsu" interview.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Nov 14 4:14:38 2008.

  Me too waiting but as i said before i think we would be directly watching it on Zee TV
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Nov 14 4:15:34 2008.

  me too eagerly awaiting this movie
  
  

• From: NOV on Fri Nov 14 4:24:54 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Namma redu peru thaan inga intha padathu mela romba aarvamaa irukkom poala

  not really. many of us are waiting for the movie to release before commenting on it.
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Nov 14 4:28:37 2008.

  romba peru release aaga wait panraanga, romba peru comment panna wait panraanga
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Nov 14 4:31:57 2008.

  directhit wrote:

  romba peru release aaga wait panraanga, romba peru comment panna wait panraanga

  
  
  Athulayum konjam paer padam paarkaamalayae comment panna wait panraanga
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Nov 14 4:32:40 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  directhit wrote: romba peru release aaga wait panraanga, romba peru comment panna wait panraanga Athulayum konjam paer padam paarkaamalayae comment panna wait panraanga

  
  
  antha samayathula naan escape aayiduvaen.. NOV and Joe muzhipaanga
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Nov 14 6:54:22 2008.

  ippa vaRra kuppaiyellAm pAkkum pOthu, come on Bala, can't take them anymore, release it soon-nnu kaththa thONuthu.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sat Nov 22 15:47:55 2008.

  Vaali pens Sanskrit song for Naan Kadavul
  Prasanna Singh [November 21, 2008, 1:49:46 PM]
  
  Vaali, the eminent lyricist of Kollywood, has a reputation for writing profound and beautiful lyrics. He has come up with one such song for Naan Kadavul that runs for 11 minutes; the song blends in with the visuals and one will never realize it is so long because it is so enjoyable. Vaali first thought of writing it in simple Tamil but upon director Bala’s request, he wrote it in Sanskrit. Though many might not be able to understand it, they will still find it appealing and would be able to form a mental picture of what it represents – such is the tune and music composed by Ilayaraja. But when watched with the visuals, the effect would be profound and its meaning would be easily comprehensible.
  
  Talking about the effect of music and the way it transcends language barrier, an interesting incident occured during the filming of Naan Kadavul – when Bala was filming a Tamil song on the banks of the Ganges, a sadhu standing nearby stood transfixed listening to the song. When the shooting was over, he walked straight to Bala and appreciated him profusely. He commented that though he did not know the language the song was sung in, he was still able to connect it and understand its meaning. He described its tune and music as “divine”.
  
  Naan Kadavul which has been in the making for the past two years is almost done and will be ready for release soon. Zee has bought its rights and would be marketing it worldwide. Arya has dedicated himself completely for this film, which also stars Pooja.
  
  Trivia: When you watch Kill Bill next time, please that when the credits roll, you can hear “Subrabharatam” played on a flute for a few seconds!
  ___________________________
  Seekram audio-va vidungappA. VirumANdikkappuRam onniyum seriyilla from Raja.
  
  

• From: ajithfederer on Sat Nov 22 15:59:39 2008.

  News to me!!
  

  Nerd wrote:

  Trivia: When you watch Kill Bill next time, please that when the credits roll, you can hear “Subrabharatam” played on a flute for a few seconds!

  
  

• From: steveaustin on Mon Dec 1 9:19:46 2008.

  Naan Kadavul’s release date
  
  Finally it looks like the audio release of Naan Kadavul will be held in December. However, no date has been fixed for this event as yet. The film, ever since it started rolling, hit on a series of problems and it took nearly two years to complete. Though director Bala had completed the shooting now, no date has been fixed for the movie’s release as yet.
  
  But the producers have now made it clear that the audio launch will be held in December at any cost. Ilayaraja has scored the music for Naan Kadavul. It is said that an old song has been included in the film, but it is still uncertain if it is a remix.
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/naan-kadavul-01-12-08.html
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 2 1:30:46 2008.

  steveaustin wrote:

  Naan Kadavul’s release date Finally it looks like the audio release of Naan Kadavul will be held in December. However, no date has been fixed for this event as yet. The film, ever since it started rolling, hit on a series of problems and it took nearly two years to complete. Though director Bala had completed the shooting now, no date has been fixed for the movie’s release as yet. But the producers have now made it clear that the audio launch will be held in December at any cost. Ilayaraja has scored the music for Naan Kadavul. It is said that an old song has been included in the film, but it is still uncertain if it is a remix. http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/naan-kadavul-01-12-08.html

  
  
  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Dec 2 1:33:39 2008.

  steveaustin wrote:

  Naan Kadavul’s release date Finally it looks like the audio release of Naan Kadavul will be held in December. However, no date has been fixed for this event as yet. The film, ever since it started rolling, hit on a series of problems and it took nearly two years to complete. Though director Bala had completed the shooting now, no date has been fixed for the movie’s release as yet. But the producers have now made it clear that the audio launch will be held in December at any cost. Ilayaraja has scored the music for Naan Kadavul. It is said that an old song has been included in the film, but it is still uncertain if it is a remix. http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/naan-kadavul-01-12-08.html

  
  
  Bala padaththula minji minji pOna 2 song dhaana irukkum adhukku edhukku audio release function
  
  BTW , IR's ilangaaththu veesudhEy from pithamagan was amazing expecting another melody from melody emporer
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Thu Dec 4 10:58:13 2008.

  Bala seals Naan Kadavul
  
  Naan Kadavul, the film that was in the making for a very long time, will finally be released for Pongal 2009. The film’s audio release is scheduled for this month end. Yesterday the crew shot a last bit of the film at the AVM Studios in Chennai which had Bharathi, Ranjani and Azhagan Thamizh Mani.
  
  Bharathi (not to be confused with Ammuvaghiya Naan star) plays the role of Arya's mother while Azhagan Thamizh Mani is Arya's dad and Ranjani happens to be his sister. The scene was that of a small function for Ranjani on her attaining puberty. Bharathi happens to be in a melancholic mood because there are no kith and kin attending the function. When Ranjani questions her parents about the absence of her brother Arya, both the parents appear to be in a very pensive mood. This was the scene that was filmed and with this, the shooting of Naan Kadavul comes to an end. Bala's fans would be extremely delighted and would wait for this Pongal bonanza from the talented director.
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/naan-kadavul-04-12-08.html
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Dec 4 11:29:51 2008.

  ipdidhAn 2007 pongal-lerunthu news podraainga
  
  

• From: MrIndia on Thu Dec 4 13:50:22 2008.

  aaga.. villu-ku aapa
  
  

• From: Anban on Thu Dec 4 14:39:46 2008.

  MrIndia wrote:

  aaga.. villu-ku aapa

  u really serious??
  
  

• From: MrIndia on Thu Dec 4 15:00:55 2008.

  Anban wrote:

  MrIndia wrote: aaga.. villu-ku aapa u really serious??

  
  
  though not commercially..
  
  aabuku bala padathula..acting konjam thoookala irrukum.. namba aaluku antha area konjam idikum..
  
  critics poondhu vilayandhuvaanunga..
  
  

• From: Anban on Thu Dec 4 15:31:01 2008.

  MrIndia wrote:

  Anban wrote: MrIndia wrote: aaga.. villu-ku aapa u really serious?? though not commercially.. aabuku bala padathula..acting konjam thoookala irrukum.. namba aaluku antha area konjam idikum.. critics poondhu vilayandhuvaanunga..

  critics ennikki thaan ungalukku support pannirukkaanga...
  
  I dont have much hopes on Naan Kadavul's commercial success.. disaster-nu thaan ninaikkiraan.. but i think that the movie will be really good..
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Dec 4 15:35:19 2008.

  if bala needs both critical acclaim and bo success - he needs actors who could deliver and also should be a mass hero.
  
  best choice is thalaivar- but he is busy with his own projects.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Dec 4 15:43:32 2008.

  Sethu - BB (or a superhit)
  NandhA - Average (They made their money, I know them personally. They run a restaurent chain in the Texas area)
  Pithamagan - Superhit (Or hit?)
  
  OK, aarya is not as popular as vikram/surya but I think 14C is not that big an investment (Zee bought it for 14C I believe).
  
  

• From: bimmer on Thu Dec 4 17:21:07 2008.

  [quote="Nerd"]Sethu - BB (or a superhit)
  NandhA - Average (They made their money, I know them personally. They run a restaurent chain in the Texas area)
  Pithamagan - Superhit (Or hit?)
  
  OK, aarya is not as popular as vikram/surya but I think 14C is not that big an investment (Zee bought it for 14C I believe).[/quote
  
  Sethu was a Superhit
  Nanda was Above Average
  Pithamagan was Average- Correct me if i'am wrong there was a big tussle between VZ Durai and Bala over Settlement issues and It realeased Alongside Thirumalai and Anjaneya..It was an an Average Grosser but Criically acclaimed for the acting by Vikram
  
  

• From: bimmer on Thu Dec 4 17:22:05 2008.

  Ennaku ennamo..Naan Kadavul Othikumnu than thonuthu.
  
  Arya will not be able to lift the movie if the Charecter is heavy
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Dec 4 23:40:26 2008.

  bimmer wrote:

  Naan Kadavul Othikumnu than thonuthu.

  
  
  me too feel the same eventhough I like IR & Bala's direction.. but I'll be happy if it succeeds
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Thu Dec 4 23:45:25 2008.

  Anban wrote:

  MrIndia wrote: aaga.. villu-ku aapa u really serious??

  
  
  when sethu released, it gave mudhalvan a serious run for its money... I dont see why bala cant repeat another success!
  
  

• From: viraajan on Thu Dec 4 23:50:17 2008.

  bimmer wrote:

  Ennaku ennamo..Naan Kadavul Othikumnu than thonuthu.

  
  
  Yep.... Same here... I have no hopes on this movie...
  
  But if it comes out with strong story line, direction and stunning music, i would be very happy to watch it
  
  

• From: Tamilan on Fri Dec 5 2:49:00 2008.

  UU, VA odumpothu NK oodatha?
  
  We will make it as a hit
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Dec 5 6:21:34 2008.

  Kadavul Pongal-ku varaar
  
  ---
  
  The project started out with tremendous anticipation. After many names were considered for the lead role, director Bala zeroed in on Arya. The project did start off but then many an unfortunate issue plagued the film.
  
  Finally after 302 days of production the filmmakers have finally announced that the shooting of the film is over. The final day of shooting was termed 'patch-up' shoot and took place recently in the AVM Studios in Chennai.
  
  Speculation about 'Naan Kadavul' is that the film might be finally ready to hit theaters during Pongal. Sure would be a big moment for both Arya and Bala.
  
  Bala had earlier directed the film 'Pithamagan' that fetched a National Award for Vikram.
  
  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43433.html
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Dec 5 7:53:31 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  bimmer wrote: Naan Kadavul Othikumnu than thonuthu. me too feel the same eventhough I like IR & Bala's direction.. but I'll be happy if it succeeds

  
  
  I feel this movie would be reviving the career of Arya. Bala has put in a lot of time and effort for this movie..
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Dec 5 8:04:34 2008.

  Cinemarasigan wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: bimmer wrote: Naan Kadavul Othikumnu than thonuthu. me too feel the same eventhough I like IR & Bala's direction.. but I'll be happy if it succeeds I feel this movie would be reviving the career of Arya. Bala has put in a lot of time and effort for this movie..

  
  
  There is no second thought that this will be a milestone in his career. But how successfull the movie will be at BO. Adhan enakku doubt-a irukku... Like HR, me too will be happy if this movie succeeds commecrially.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Fri Dec 5 11:47:27 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  if bala needs both critical acclaim and bo success - he needs actors who could deliver and also should be a mass hero. best choice is thalaivar- but he is busy with his own projects.

  
  
  wat abt sethu...
  by that time, vikram was almost a nobody in the industry... u know where he went since then...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 5 11:48:42 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: if bala needs both critical acclaim and bo success - he needs actors who could deliver and also should be a mass hero. best choice is thalaivar- but he is busy with his own projects. wat abt sethu... by that time, vikram was almost a nobody in the industry... u know where he went since then...

  
  
  im talking abt the massive BO success.
  
  sethu was critically acclaimed - ok!
  
  vikram became a huge star etsa etsa..
  
  but im talking a huge BO hit
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Fri Dec 5 11:50:42 2008.

  hey viv... sethu was a super hit movie... and its a BO success also...
  in my area, it was removed in 5 days... and after a weeks time, it was rereleased and ran for 150 days...
  same was witnessed in most of the theatres....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 5 11:55:58 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  hey viv... sethu was a super hit movie... and its a BO success also... in my area, it was removed in 5 days... and after a weeks time, it was rereleased and ran for 150 days... same was witnessed in most of the theatres....

  
  
  
  
  I mean a blockbuster - something that creates huge records.
  
  its a superhit - yes.U must also owe it to the storyline - "love movie".people love it regardless of the actor.he dint do a love subject since then and he dint taste the massive success too.
  
  to select a subject like NK and taste a huge success - opening is very important.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Dec 5 12:01:51 2008.

  Viv, wait for the audio and the promos. It's gotta be one of IR's best post 00s and it can't be denied that there is some expectation among fublic. Blockbuster-lam venAm, above average pOdhum. Raja + Bala BGMkkAgavE padatha pAkkalAm
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 5 12:18:24 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  Viv, wait for the audio and the promos. It's gotta be one of IR's best post 00s and it can't be denied that there is some expectation among fublic. Blockbuster-lam venAm, above average pOdhum. Raja + Bala BGMkkAgavE padatha pAkkalAm

  
  
  I hope as bala mentions in his title card -with the grandeur music of maestro ilayaraja - the movie would kalakify.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Fri Dec 5 12:29:27 2008.

  When was the last time Bala failed at BO ?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Dec 5 12:30:54 2008.

  Never failed really - average,above average and super hit
  
  

• From: thamiz on Fri Dec 5 12:32:59 2008.

  may be it is about time!
  
  

• From: MrIndia on Fri Dec 5 15:11:42 2008.

  thamiz wrote:

  may be it is about time!

  
  
  two reasons it may happen..
  
  1) naan kadavul is too violent and gross
  
  2) Villu a perfect entertainer like ghilly.. which may or maynot .
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sat Dec 6 8:55:38 2008.

  On how Naan Kadavul influenced Arya's decision..!
  
  It's probably stale news that Arya is turning producer with his new venture and that his as-yet-untitled production venture will star debutants in the lead. Latest in this series is that Arya, after having been impressed with the Maestro Ilayaraja's music for Naan Kadavul, has persuaded to agree Ilayaraja score for his project.
  
  As for his acting career, he seems to be on a long wait until the cows come home, since his only pipeline project Naan Kadavul, mired with battles between the producers, seems to be showing no progression in its release.
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-01/arya-06-12-08.html
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Dec 6 12:30:36 2008.

  MrIndia wrote:

  thamiz wrote: may be it is about time! two reasons it may happen.. 1) naan kadavul is too violent and gross 2) Villu a perfect entertainer like ghilly.. which may or maynot .

  
  
  people rarely let down these type of rural violence stories & bala is an expert in showing crude violence.... makkal padam super-nu sonnalum sollalam
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Dec 8 1:42:52 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Viv, wait for the audio and the promos. It's gotta be one of IR's best post 00s and it can't be denied that there is some expectation among fublic. Blockbuster-lam venAm, above average pOdhum. Raja + Bala BGMkkAgavE padatha pAkkalAm I hope as bala mentions in his title card -with the grandeur music of maestro ilayaraja - the movie would kalakify.

  
  
  it should be
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 8 1:58:53 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  people rarely let down these type of rural violence stories & bala is an expert in showing crude violence.... makkal padam super-nu sonnalum sollalam

  
  
  Do you think it is a easy job to convince the audience by rural violence stories? Many masala movies coming out these days are some sort of rural violence stories only, but majority of them fail. So it is not very easy to justify the violence through the story/screenplay. It is a tough job but directors like Bala who uses his own experience are good at what they do.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 8 2:24:20 2008.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MrIndia wrote: thamiz wrote: may be it is about time! two reasons it may happen.. 1) naan kadavul is too violent and gross 2) Villu a perfect entertainer like ghilly.. which may or maynot . people rarely let down these type of rural violence stories & bala is an expert in showing crude violence.... makkal padam super-nu sonnalum sollalam

  
  
  
  u think bala doesnt know to give a good mix of all commercial elements in his story... dont u remember his kind of commedy tracks in all his movies... and his way of delivering a good song... i hav full confidence on this project....
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Dec 8 2:28:36 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  i hav full confidence on this project....

  
  
  Padam varanum
  
  

• From: bimmer on Mon Dec 8 2:29:52 2008.

  Bala is one of de most Overrated directors IMHO...
  
  Sethu was his best..Pithamagan was an Overdose of every damn thing..Vikram's acting was Nauseating. Surya was a saving grace.
  
  Nanda was an OK Movie...
  
  More than the movie's BO Success..It was more of people learning their acting skills..coz Bala takes 2-3 Yrs to complete a movie, so even an ameturish actor learns some acting skills.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 8 2:36:34 2008.

  bimmer wrote:

  Bala is one of de most Overrated directors IMHO... Sethu was his best..Pithamagan was an Overdose of every damn thing..Vikram's acting was Nauseating. Surya was a saving grace. Nanda was an OK Movie... More than the movie's BO Success..It was more of people learning their acting skills..coz Bala takes 2-3 Yrs to complete a movie, so even an ameturish actor learns some acting skills.

  
  
  not a bit different from my thoughts esp on his 3 movies......i take exception for the bolded part and seriously think shuld be removed from that sentence
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Dec 8 2:38:26 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  bimmer wrote: Bala is one of de most Overrated directors IMHO... Sethu was his best..Pithamagan was an Overdose of every damn thing..Vikram's acting was Nauseating. Surya was a saving grace. Nanda was an OK Movie... More than the movie's BO Success..It was more of people learning their acting skills..coz Bala takes 2-3 Yrs to complete a movie, so even an ameturish actor learns some acting skills. not a bit different from my thoughts

  
  
  I knew u would say this
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 8 2:43:33 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  I knew u would say this

  
  
  i never wanted to post in this thread but bimmer's post was just a mirror of my thots on bala and his movies
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Dec 8 2:45:27 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: I knew u would say this i never wanted to post in this thread but bimmer's post was just a mirror of my thots on bala and his movies

  
  
  I knew.. BTW nammoada (everyone here) opinions adikadi post pannaathanae new hubbers kku theriyum
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Mon Dec 8 3:32:05 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Thirumaran wrote: I knew u would say this i never wanted to post in this thread but bimmer's post was just a mirror of my thots on bala and his movies I knew.. BTW nammoada (everyone here) opinions adikadi post pannaathanae new hubbers kku theriyum

  
  
  yes yes..
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Mon Dec 8 11:49:10 2008.

  ‘Naan Kadavul’: Zee Tamizh backtracks!
  
  Zee Tamizh, which had plans to acquire the satellite rights of Bala-directed ‘Naan Kadavul’ for a whopping sum of Rs 7.5 crore, now appears to drag its feet on its committment.
  
  The reason behind Zee Tamizh’s backtracking was reportedly due to the warning they got which said that since the film has had more than five producers, legal tangles were bound to come up.
  
  The film, starring Aarya and Pooja, has been in the making for more than two years, has finally been completed this week. The film has seen more than five producers, from P.L. Thenappan, Sivashree Pictures, Sreenivasan, Pyramid Saimeera to Bala himself, but even now the release date has not been finalised.
  
  Source: Filmysouth
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 9 2:01:05 2008.

  rangan_08 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: Life'laye 1st shaving panra maddhiri--saloon kaarana pottu adippaare vikram... probably its his first time in a saloon

  
  
  I am reading the autobiography of Muththammal Pazhanisami (nAdu vittu nAdu) and one of the incidents mentioned is very close to PM's barber shop scenes. I will post the contents later today.
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Tue Dec 9 10:38:29 2008.

  Legal issues over the telecast rights of Naan Kadavul
  
  Though the shooting of Bala’s ‘Naan Kadavul’ starring Aarya and Pooja, which has been in the making for more than two years, has finally been over, the problems surrounding the flick is far from over.
  
  Earlier, it was said that the newly launched Zee Tamizh TV channel bought the satellite broadcast rights of the film for a whopping 7.5 crores rupees. Now, it seems that the channel is rethinking about the deal. It is said to be a legal advice that has made the channel change its mind.
  
  Since the film has changed hands with more than five producers (P.L. Thenappan, Sivashree Pictures, Sreenivasan, Pyramid Saimira and Bala himself), legal tangles were bound to crop up in future which the company could ill afford to fight. However, the movie is said to be released during Pongal.
  
  Source: Chennaionline
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Tue Dec 9 14:01:02 2008.

  Bala is a very good director.
  
  I like Bala and Selvaraghavan for one thing -- THEY BRING OUT A DARK CINEMA WITH DARKEST CHARACTERS
  
  Ethanai naalthaan sane and do-good hero va paauradhu
  With Bala and Selva's movies one can unleash their dark nature in acting
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Fri Dec 12 6:49:36 2008.

  ஸ்டுடியோவிற்குள் சாமியார்கள்
  நான் கடவுள் டப்பிங் விறுவிறு...
  
  
  சாமியார்கள் மாநாடு நடக்கிறதோ என்று சந்தேகப்பட வைக்கிறது ஏ.வி.எம் ஸ்டுடியோவில் அமைந்திருக்கும் டப்பிங் ஏரியா! வேறொன்றுமில்லை, நான் கடவுள் படத்தின் டப்பிங் பணிகள் நடந்து வருகிறது. காசியில் எடுக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் காட்சிகளிலும், தேனியில் எடுக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் காட்சிகளிலும் ஏராளமான சாமியார்கள் நடித்திருக்கிறார்கள். சிலர் அசல். சிலர் டூப்ளிகேட். இவர்கள் அத்தனை பேரையும் திரட்டிக் கொண்டு வரச் சொல்லிவிட்டாராம் பாலா. அதனால்தான் இந்த கூட்டம்.
  
  படத்தில் ஒரு காட்சியில் வந்தவர்கள் கூட, அவரவர் குரலில் டப்பிங் பேச வேண்டும் என்பதே பாலாவின் விருப்பம். ஷ§ட்டிங்கின்போதே இந்த சாமியார்களிடம், டப்பிங் பேச சென்னைக்கு வரணும் என்று கூறியிருந்தாராம் பாலா.
  
  சில சாமியார்களை காசியில் இருந்தே கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறார்கள். கஞ்சா புகையும், கணீர் பேச்சுமாக கிடுகிடுக்க வைக்கிறார்கள் இந்த சாமியார்கள். இந்த கூட்டத்தில், பிரபல கவிஞர் விக்ரமாதித்தியனும் ஒரு சாமியராக நடித்திருக்கிறார் என்பது விசேஷ தகவல்!
  
  -ஆர்.எஸ்.அந்தணன்
  
  
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Dec 12 8:33:14 2008.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  [tscii சில சாமியார்களை காசியில் இருந்தே கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறார்கள். கஞ்சா புகையும், கணீர் பேச்சுமாக கிடுகிடுக்க வைக்கிறார்கள் இந்த சாமியார்கள். [/tscii]

  
  
  ஆஹா சாமியார்கள் இப்படியா...
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sat Dec 13 11:48:59 2008.

  Cinemarasigan: many of these saamiyaargal give a very bad name to all of us from India! smoking ganja is nothing compared to what other sadhus/saamiyaars do - ever heard of Aghori sadhus ?? they eat burning human flesh as a means of 'purifying' themselves!!
  
  

• From: cancer on Sat Dec 13 12:45:58 2008.

  Cinemarasigan wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: [tscii சில சாமியார்களை காசியில் இருந்தே கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறார்கள். கஞ்சா புகையும், கணீர் பேச்சுமாக கிடுகிடுக்க வைக்கிறார்கள் இந்த சாமியார்கள். [/tscii] ஆஹா சாமியார்கள் இப்படியா...

  
  
  bala kanja adikirathu punitha seyal nnu NK moolama solla varar pola
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Sat Dec 13 23:15:32 2008.

  train ethana manikku ariving? enniku arriving? entha platform la arriving?....
  
  btw train 2 varusham late pola!!
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 14 1:12:15 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  Cinemarasigan: many of these saamiyaargal give a very bad name to all of us from India! smoking ganja is nothing compared to what other sadhus/saamiyaars do - ever heard of Aghori sadhus ?? they eat burning human flesh as a means of 'purifying' themselves!!

  
  
  
  BadName! Eating dead Persons is better than most of the killing of innocent people, what USoA is doing. In that sense Aghori's are more cultured than most of the people, They eat only the Dead.
  
  BTW Arya's Character 'Ruthran' in the movie is a Aghori
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 1:22:33 2008.

  exactly rasasaranam!..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 14 1:25:20 2008.

  cancer wrote:

  bala kanja adikirathu punitha seyal nnu NK moolama solla varar pola

  
  
  அப்படீங்களா? நெசமாவா? உங்க கற்பனைக்கு ஒரு குட்டு
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 14 1:31:54 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  BadName! Eating dead Persons is better than most of the killing of innocent people, what USoA is doing. In that sense Aghori's are more cultured than most of the people, They eat only the Dead. BTW Arya's Character 'Ruthran' in the movie is a Aghori

  
  
  Killing innocent people in wars has been happening throughout the history. But eating another human being's body needs a disgusting mind set, however you put it one has to be more inhumane to do that.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 1:43:59 2008.

  mr.judge - ur idea of killing is ok because people do all the times but eating dead bodies is not is laughable
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Dec 14 1:48:33 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  mr.judge - ur idea of killing is ok because people do all the times but eating dead bodies is not is laughable

  
  
  I am not saying it is OK to kill innocents. Both are bad but you can't compare it with Aghoris and justify their acts.
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 1:50:06 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: mr.judge - ur idea of killing is ok because people do all the times but eating dead bodies is not is laughable I am not saying it is OK to kill innocents. Both are bad but you can't compare it with Aghoris and justify their acts.

  
  
  if it doesnt bother a living individual in any way - whats the problem?...they dont cause problems to the human soceity ..right?
  
  anything that is within the circle of an individual and doesnt bother the people outside the circle is acceptable and to call it insane or anything from outside the circle is "fascism"
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 14 3:41:03 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: mr.judge - ur idea of killing is ok because people do all the times but eating dead bodies is not is laughable I am not saying it is OK to kill innocents. Both are bad but you can't compare it with Aghoris and justify their acts.

  
  
  Eating a dead body is far more spiritual than killing a live goat in the name of GOD. No act in this world is justifiable/condemnable they are meant to be 'AS IT IS' and the perception from individual to individual differs. People's senses are constructed to go along with the collective thought process of the society at any point of time in the history. killing of Arabs is right for the average collective mind of Americans. There are many examples like this history - killing of jews/burning of women in stakes/making slave out of Africans...the list is too big to be contained here, and yet today most of these acts will be seen as barbaric while it was right at some point of time in the history.
  For me these acts are more gory than what A-gory's are doing. They don't take away a life which is the most precious thing in this universe but try to get into a spiritual/transcendental state of one with 'Shiva' by eating the dead.
  Yes it was disguting to watch them perform the rite in a documentry for my civilised mind, but what kind of civilisation we are talking about which keeps harping about anhilating a neighbouring country because they are from a different religion and have a considerable amount of hatred towards us due to some happenings in the past. A civilisation which kills a person for having shown 'love' to another person born in a different caste. A civilisation which can take away the eyes of a girl who drinks water from pot meant for higher caste. A civilisation which ruthlessly kills many thousands every year in the name of caste/creed and religion. A civilisation which cares a damn about 40% being under poverty line and who cant afford a decent 1 square meal a day....
  We are part of that civilisation which is utterly barbaric in nature [Read a signature of someone a quote from Kamal reflecting a similar thought ] and we have no right to condemn the 'Aghories' who are more civilised than us.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 14 7:28:13 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  if it doesnt bother a living individual in any way - whats the problem?...they dont cause problems to the human soceity ..right? anything that is within the circle of an individual and doesnt bother the people outside the circle is acceptable and to call it insane or anything from outside the circle is "fascism"

  
  
  imagine if all dead bodies in vicinity are eaten and finished - will they start killing live people and eat their bodies too??? if bala makes a movie on that - will 'bala fans' support such things too??
  
  RS, goat sacrifice is disgusting, agreed, but when it comes as biryani in a plate, do we shove it away......... but eating ur own species is something <no adjective>........i mean, how can one justify this by comparing it to other ills in the society??
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 14 7:40:17 2008.

  -deleted-
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 14 7:42:53 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: mr.judge - ur idea of killing is ok because people do all the times but eating dead bodies is not is laughable I am not saying it is OK to kill innocents. Both are bad but you can't compare it with Aghoris and justify their acts. if it doesnt bother a living individual in any way - whats the problem?...they dont cause problems to the human soceity ..right? anything that is within the circle of an individual and doesnt bother the people outside the circle is acceptable and to call it insane or anything from outside the circle is "fascism"

  
  
  
  I agree vivasaayi ivanga ellariyum Osama Bin Laden kita pidichu kodukanum
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 14 7:43:59 2008.

  Eagerly waiting for this movie, a subject that has never ever been touched upon in cinema
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 14 11:13:08 2008.

  Maddy,
  
  I said to my son that one of your uncles is asking a silly question please answer. His answer is here :
  

  Quote:

  
  
  Jokes apart, do you really think, Aghories are eating those dead bodies as a part of their diet?!!! opps... its for a spiritual experience FYKI. if there are no dead bodies available simply they dont eat it! They dont kill.
  
  moreover our own civilised society has set rules wherein when a group of people are marooned (During a voyage in sea or trek on a mountain range) and no food available. People KILL one by one to feed the other left out in the group, since survival of the maximum no. of people is more important than individual existence. Never it is termed as barbaric.
  
  Eating the own species is nothing new in the course of history whether in animal kingdom or homo sapiens. There are speculations that homo erectus had butchered Neanderthals ( in the course could've eaten them too) in order to evolve into homo sapiens. What is barbaric to one may be good for the other. one of my gujarathi office collegue avoid coming with the group for lunch as someone or the other may order non-veg if atall he comes he sits in a corner space with vegetarians and verifies with the supplier 'n' no. of times whether his dishes are cooked in separate vessels. For him we are BARBARIANS.
  
  BTW I love that mutton biriyani and had been witness to many of 'keda vettus' happening in our village Veppillaiamman temple.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 14 11:19:32 2008.

  இதுல பாருங்க சார், விசித்திரம் MADDY'um Judge'um ஒரே கருத்துல ஒத்து போராங்க
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Dec 14 11:23:10 2008.

  Indha padam odura theatrela intervalla snacks sales koranju poidum....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 11:28:44 2008.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Indha padam odura theatrela intervalla snacks sales koranju poidum....

  
  
  பாட்டுக்கு நடுவுல யாரும் வெளிய போக மாட்டாங்க ..அதான
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Dec 14 11:33:52 2008.

  இன்டெர்வெல்ல ஏது பாட்டு?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 11:40:24 2008.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  இன்டெர்வெல்ல ஏது பாட்டு?

  
  
  நெரையா படத்துல்ல ஒவ்வொரு பாட்டுமே இன்டெர்வெல்தான்...அத சொன்னேன்
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Dec 14 11:52:12 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: இன்டெர்வெல்ல ஏது பாட்டு? நெரையா படத்துல்ல ஒவ்வொரு பாட்டுமே இன்டெர்வெல்தான்...அத சொன்னேன்

  
  
  
  
  Correct!!!...Yesterday i watched Bommalattam... Same blood!!!
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sun Dec 14 13:14:41 2008.

  Maddy - the picture of one of our real HEROES, the late NSG Major Unnikrishnan in your signature -
  
  hats off to you for your thoughtfullness!
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sun Dec 14 13:26:32 2008.

  rajasaranam - my point is this: majority of Indians would want the entire world to have a perception of India as a land with 'elevated sense and appreciation of understanding the ultimate objectives of life' - with a spiritual heritage thats more to do with eclectic enlightenment - such a perception gets a severe beating, when we get to watch/hear facts about aghoris - perhaps, they have their justifications for doing what they are doing, but to say that humans have a right to eat dead humans, because, other species have been known to eat members of their species, does not make sense to me - it is precisely the ability to think and act on a different plane that makes us different from other species - i dont want to go deeper into this - killing a goat or any other animal for sacrifice and consuming the same, is not the same as eating a dead human body IMHO
  
  also IMHO, its irrelevant to bring in what the USoA (or any other country) is doing in other countries, even though I do agree with you that such acts are completely unacceptabe
  
  end digression
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sun Dec 14 14:20:19 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  rajasaranam - my point is this: majority of Indians would want the entire world to have a perception of India as a land with 'elevated sense and appreciation of understanding the ultimate objectives of life'

  
  I'm sorry but what in heaven's name was THAT?
  
  Whatever it is, how would one know what the majority of Indian want (in this case atleast)?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 14 14:29:04 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  irir123 wrote: rajasaranam - my point is this: majority of Indians would want the entire world to have a perception of India as a land with 'elevated sense and appreciation of understanding the ultimate objectives of life' I'm sorry but what in heaven's name was THAT? Whatever it is, how would one know what the majority of Indian want (in this case atleast)?

  
  
  
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sun Dec 14 19:55:18 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  irir123 wrote: rajasaranam - my point is this: majority of Indians would want the entire world to have a perception of India as a land with 'elevated sense and appreciation of understanding the ultimate objectives of life' I'm sorry but what in heaven's name was THAT? Whatever it is, how would one know what the majority of Indian want (in this case atleast)?

  
  
  hmm - maybe I shd rephrase it this way - would most of us want India to be perceived as a land of snake-charmers, rope-tricksmen, bogus godmen, rope-tricksters, black magicians, and human-flesh eating cannibalistic recluses or would we want India to be seen as a country with great ideas in science, arts and spirituality ?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun Dec 14 21:12:42 2008.

  A short film(!) on Aghories
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlKmMVzrK0
  
  Got this in a forward email about an year ago. Watch this video at your own risk
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 14 21:19:59 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Eating the own species is nothing new in the course of history whether in animal kingdom or homo sapiens. There are speculations that homo erectus had butchered Neanderthals ( in the course could've eaten them too) in order to evolve into homo sapiens. What is barbaric to one may be good for the other. one of my gujarathi office collegue avoid coming with the group for lunch as someone or the other may order non-veg if atall he comes he sits in a corner space with vegetarians and verifies with the supplier 'n' no. of times whether his dishes are cooked in separate vessels. For him we are BARBARIANS. BTW I love that mutton biriyani and had been witness to many of 'keda vettus' happening in our village Veppillaiamman temple.

  
  
  i'm still uncomfortable saying - there are so many wrongs happening in the society then y object to Aghoris i'm sure ur son too agrees with me
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  இதுல பாருங்க சார், விசித்திரம் MADDY'um Judge'um ஒரே கருத்துல ஒத்து போராங்க

  
  
  we agree on lot of things nowadays
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Dec 14 21:27:09 2008.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Indha padam odura theatrela intervalla snacks sales koranju poidum....

  
  
  if i ever watch this movie, i would carry the sombus that nattamais use - to puke ofcourse
  
  

  irir123 wrote:

  Maddy - the picture of one of our real HEROES, the late NSG Major Unnikrishnan in your signature - hats off to you for your thoughtfullness!

  
  
  the image of his mom talking to his corpse just keeps coming - its too much to handle
  
  

  Nerd wrote:

  A short film(!) on Aghories http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlKmMVzrK0

  
  
  very repulsive i must say
  
  

• From: Kalyasi on Sun Dec 14 22:18:27 2008.

  maddy for ur avtar and signature!!
  
  

• From: irir123 on Sun Dec 14 23:32:34 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: Indha padam odura theatrela intervalla snacks sales koranju poidum.... if i ever watch this movie, i would carry the sombus that nattamais use - to puke ofcourse irir123 wrote: Maddy - the picture of one of our real HEROES, the late NSG Major Unnikrishnan in your signature - hats off to you for your thoughtfullness! the image of his mom talking to his corpse just keeps coming - its too much to handle

  
  
  where was it shown ? isnt it that a tad too insensitive showing a mother's angst over TV or net ?
  
  on a digressive note, the great intellectual Ms.Arundhati Roy is back advising pacifism as the panacea in the aftermath of the mumbai incident - http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081222&fname=ARoy+(F)&sid=1
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Mon Dec 15 1:53:17 2008.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: if it doesnt bother a living individual in any way - whats the problem?...they dont cause problems to the human soceity ..right? anything that is within the circle of an individual and doesnt bother the people outside the circle is acceptable and to call it insane or anything from outside the circle is "fascism" imagine if all dead bodies in vicinity are eaten and finished - will they start killing live people and eat their bodies too??? if bala makes a movie on that - will 'bala fans' support such things too?? RS, goat sacrifice is disgusting, agreed, but when it comes as biryani in a plate, do we shove it away......... but eating ur own species is something <no adjective>........i mean, how can one justify this by comparing it to other ills in the society??

  
  
  Some of these "samiyars" don't follow any culture / religion, for the sake of popularity and to show some difference from other godmen, these people ready to do anything..
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 15 2:55:56 2008.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  if it doesnt bother a living individual in any way - whats the problem?...they dont cause problems to the human soceity ..right?

  
  
  Just because it doesn't cause problems to the human society physically, that is allowed? What if a guy eats fresh meat of other species without cooking. Do you think his act is not disgusting? Won't you call it bad? There are certain things in your life you don't want to see/hear about it at least. Though this habit doesn't bother any living individual physically, it will definitely bother normal human being's mind. That is my point.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 15 3:04:20 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Jokes apart, do you really think, Aghories are eating those dead bodies as a part of their diet?!!! opps... its for a spiritual experience FYKI.

  
  
  Their spiritual experience is questionable, I will see them only as 'sick people' with 'sick mind' and don't belong to our 'human' society.
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  moreover our own civilised society has set rules wherein when a group of people are marooned (During a voyage in sea or trek on a mountain range) and no food available. People KILL one by one to feed the other left out in the group, since survival of the maximum no. of people is more important than individual existence. Never it is termed as barbaric.

  
  
  That is a different case. Survival will be the only criteria for any living being at a tragic time. You can't compare that with Aghories' act.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 15 3:12:09 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  இதுல பாருங்க சார், விசித்திரம் MADDY'um Judge'um ஒரே கருத்துல ஒத்து போராங்க

  
  
  Yes, that is surprising. We agree on more things nowadays He needs to cross only a few more hurdles but they are too big, I know he will cross someday.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 15 3:57:58 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  What if a guy eats fresh meat of other species without cooking. Do you think his act is not disgusting? Won't you call it bad?

  
  Nitpick:
  A lot of people already do that, right?
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 15 4:11:54 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Their spiritual experience is questionable, I will see them only as 'sick people' with 'sick mind' and don't belong to our 'human' society.

  
  
  If then, All spiritual Experiences can be termed as sickness of the human mind either they delve on Hallucination or on Delusion
  
  

  MrJudge wrote:

  That is a different case. Survival will be the only criteria for any living being at a tragic time. You can't compare that with Aghories' act.

  
  
  Hmmm Perception Differs, For some even if its due to Survival factor the act may seem Gross.
  Iam noway comparing! Just trying to point out that there are 'N' no. of things in this society which are irrational for some but completely rational for some. Few years back there was a huge uproar about eating stillborn babies of human beings in 'Thailand' restaurants. .A Related News. the business was a whooping success that wombs were created in order to satisfy the customer demands. That was a disgusting act for me I don't like the movies like 'Hostel'/ 'Saw' depicting violence in a artistic way and I think you are a fan of such movies (just a guess since you like Quentin Tarantino).
  Thus For me 'Aghories' Act seems completely rational since they don't kill to eat which seems irrational for you. i think we wont get anywhere and keep on on this topic.
  
  Ok whats the latest news 'Is Arya eating the dead body of Pooja in the movie or not?!!!'
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 15 4:17:02 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: What if a guy eats fresh meat of other species without cooking. Do you think his act is not disgusting? Won't you call it bad? Nitpick: A lot of people already do that, right?

  
  
  Avarukku pointers kudukkanum 'Subway'kku Poi menu'va paarkka sollunga
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 15 4:19:55 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  hmm - maybe I shd rephrase it this way - would most of us want India to be perceived as a land of snake-charmers, rope-tricksmen, bogus godmen, rope-tricksters, black magicians, and human-flesh eating cannibalistic recluses or would we want India to be seen as a country with great ideas in science, arts and spirituality ?

  
  More important than how one would want India to be perceived is the fact of how India actually is. So, how i want India to be 'perceived' is immaterial right? In any case, i wouldn't have any clue as to what the majority wants in this case.
  And whats with this perception thing? Why do you want a binary perception? You mean show only good things about India? Or is your concern about what you feel is a one-sided negative only portrayal by the media?
  Well, to put it bluntly, i don't give a damn about any great strides we might have made in science, arts or spirituality(?) as long as one cannot even take a crap in any of the Indian trains
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 15 4:21:49 2008.

  I understand the topic is very touchy and all that, but gosh, the discussion has turned more than a bit self-righteous.
  
  MrJudge,
  So, do you mean to suggest that it all boils (!) down to cooking? I'm just trying to find out if it's possible to arrive at one specific aspect at the core of this 'sAdhus' situation which many here find despicable or objectionable.
  
  Bala,
  Seriously, it's perplexing that you label your question as nitpick.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 15 4:24:58 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  on a digressive note, the great intellectual Ms.Arundhati Roy is back advising pacifism as the panacea in the aftermath of the mumbai incident - http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081222&fname=ARoy+(F)&sid=1

  
  <Dig>
  Do you have issues with anything she says, or some specific points? IOW, do you wish for a 'bombing' out of terrorist camps? What does it mean anyway?
  I have some questions on reading the article myself (for starters, why doesn't she say anything about Kasab's alleged nationality?)
  Anyway, we will have to take this up somewhere else.. resist panna mudiyala.. adhaan ketten..
  </Dig>
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 15 4:28:01 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Bala, Seriously, it's perplexing that you label your question as nitpick.

  
  Nitpick because i didn't touch upon the main issue that being debated here but just pointed out what Judge has 'missed'
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Dec 15 4:33:53 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  I understand the topic is very touchy and all that, but gosh, the discussion has turned more than a bit self-righteous.

  
  .
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 15 4:41:45 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Bala, Seriously, it's perplexing that you label your question as nitpick. Nitpick because i didn't touch upon the main issue that being debated here but just pointed out what Judge has 'missed'

  
  Oh, ok. Taking the topic to debate whether uncooked food can be consumed or not was quite a stretch. But, yes, I do see that folks have objected to human beings consuming human meat etc.
  
  I'm actually more interested in the history of these sAdhu groups. I don't know much about their background, so some actual insights on their practices would help.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Mon Dec 15 5:03:26 2008.

  Went through last few pages! I mean really..
  
  Do you guys watch a film, and be gullible enough to support everything it shows (or showcases)? Just because Bala is going to make a film on Aghoris, and cannibalism, and you're appreciative of the film - you're NOT "supportive" of the practice. (heck, how do we know the film or the filmmaker is "supportive" in the first place! ) Next time you guys appreciate a gangster film, you're guilty of appreciating their ilk, eh?
  
  And just because I don't believe in censorship of art, I'm either a man of sick tastes, or blind supporter of showcasing irreverence. I'd say this notion(not just in hub but elsewhere) is pretty moronic, and judgmental.
  
  

• From: irir123 on Mon Dec 15 10:12:09 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  irir123 wrote: on a digressive note, the great intellectual Ms.Arundhati Roy is back advising pacifism as the panacea in the aftermath of the mumbai incident - http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081222&fname=ARoy+(F)&sid=1 <Dig> Do you have issues with anything she says, or some specific points? IOW, do you wish for a 'bombing' out of terrorist camps? What does it mean anyway? I have some questions on reading the article myself (for starters, why doesn't she say anything about Kasab's alleged nationality?) Anyway, we will have to take this up somewhere else.. resist panna mudiyala.. adhaan ketten.. </Dig>

  
  
  dig - maybe there is already a thread somewhere to discuss this - she almost calls the victims of the attack to have been at the
  receiving end for 'wrongs' committed against one minority community elsewhere - she didnt exactly say the attacks were justified, but almost comes close to it! at least she pardoned/spared the readers by not saying the victims, in order the portray the terrorists in a bad light, committed 'suicide'! - am glad for that - only in India can we have people like Ms.Roy enjoying cult status and earning in 1000s for the verbal diarrhea that she pukes on the public in magazines!- end digression
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Tue Dec 16 2:22:40 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  dig - maybe there is already a thread somewhere to discuss this - she almost calls the victims of the attack to have been at the receiving end for 'wrongs' committed against one minority community elsewhere - she didnt exactly say the attacks were justified, but almost comes close to it! at least she pardoned/spared the readers by not saying the victims, in order the portray the terrorists in a bad light, committed 'suicide'! - am glad for that - only in India can we have people like Ms.Roy enjoying cult status and earning in 1000s for the verbal diarrhea that she pukes on the public in magazines!- end digression

  
  <ok, you do have an issue with her no matter WHAT she says>
  eppadi ungalaala idhellaam mudiyudhu? I rest my case
  
  END DIG
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Tue Dec 16 3:30:35 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  A short film(!) on Aghories http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlKmMVzrK0 Got this in a forward email about an year ago. Watch this video at your own risk

  
  
  Nerd,
  
  Thanks for this video. I too saw the VDO few months back and it was spine chilling. But a thought of another video (An Americans Head being sawed off brutally by Arabs. This video was telecast in most of the channels and did a good round in the net too) I saw flashed in my mind wherein I deduced this was more acceptable than the other act. Hence my Support to 'Aghories' in these discussion. I'd condemn them only as a last step when all these violence in society and human mind vanishes.
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Tue Dec 16 3:44:28 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  A short film(!) on Aghories http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlKmMVzrK0 Got this in a forward email about an year ago. Watch this video at your own risk

  
  
  
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Tue Dec 16 3:53:24 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Do you guys watch a film, and be gullible enough to support everything it shows (or showcases)? Just because Bala is going to make a film on Aghoris, and cannibalism, and you're appreciative of the film - you're NOT "supportive" of the practice. (heck, how do we know the film or the filmmaker is "supportive" in the first place! ) Next time you guys appreciate a gangster film, you're guilty of appreciating their ilk, eh? And just because I don't believe in censorship of art, I'm either a man of sick tastes, or blind supporter of showcasing irreverence. I'd say this notion(not just in hub but elsewhere) is pretty moronic, and judgmental.

  
  
  Good post But sometimes even appreciation arises from the fact that our inner mind accepts the act, Hence the thundering applauds for 'Sithan' when he bites off the throat of 'mahadevan' or when 'Paraman' saws off the neck of 'Chithappa'. Atleast the people(majority here) who had applauded would've wanted to do exactly the same when found in a similar situation in real life.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 16 8:10:40 2008.

  Bala's trick to qualify for the National Awards!
  December 16, 2008
  
  Director Bala's Naan Kadavul, after much hassles, is finally ready to hit the screens in January 2009. The film, which had been in the making for over a couple of years, is now undergoing the post production process. Sources close to the film unit expect that Bala, the film, the lead characters – Arya and Pooja and/or cinematographer Arthur Wilson could go on to win the National Award. It is believed that it is keeping this mind that Bala has resisted using Digital Intermediate technology. According to the National Awards Rules, films employing the DI technology are exempted from the national awards.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 16 8:38:49 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  If then, All spiritual Experiences can be termed as sickness of the human mind either they delve on Hallucination or on Delusion

  
  
  But this could be the sickest of them.
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Thus For me 'Aghories' Act seems completely rational since they don't kill to eat which seems irrational for you.

  
  
  Killing someone is a different issue but this 'eating a dead man's flesh' is possible only by insane people. I don't think any sane person can do that, these Aghories must be messed up in the name of spirituality.
  
  

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Ok whats the latest news 'Is Arya eating the dead body of Pooja in the movie or not?!!!'

  
  
  Nobody knows how he is going to finish his story this time. I still remember, when the sack was dropped on the road in Pithamagan, the whole theater was in pin-drop silence. Some scene similar to that will be there in NK too. Will Pooja be eaten by Arya? looks like it. I think this movie is going to be a really really dark one thematically.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Tue Dec 16 8:45:40 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Avarukku pointers kudukkanum 'Subway'kku Poi menu'va paarkka sollunga

  
  
  What I meant was eating raw flesh out of dead animals, not processed, not packed in patties as you get in Subway.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Tue Dec 16 9:27:03 2008.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Killing someone is a different issue but this 'eating a dead man's flesh' is possible only by insane people. I don't think any sane person can do that, these Aghories must be messed up in the name of spirituality.

  
  
  You mean to say 'Killing a person' comes under sanity while Eating dead human flesh comes under Insanity. Hmmm.... so bombing over innocent people, whether they are children, women, old, sick...watever, yet we can call those who does it as sane (or they are just bordering into insanity, if you want to defend). sorry Iam from the school of thought coming down from Nietzhe "Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." (Now don't jump up saying even aghories are a 'Group', compared to a Nation they are almost Individuals )
  
  You had been repeating Sick, insane, Etc., never trying to substantiate why you tell that, had that been the case the discussions could've taken some interesting paths leading to talking about inherent violence of humans and human mind. So be it.
  
  If we have a scale to compare/ measure the acts of killing & Eating Dead Human beings I'd say killing a human being is more Violent, Brutal & Insane while Eating dead Human flesh tones down in violence/Brutality/Sanity, And you'd say Exactly the opposite.
  I rest my Case.
  
  

• From: irir123 on Tue Dec 16 10:29:18 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  <ok, you do have an issue with her no matter WHAT she says> eppadi ungalaala idhellaam mudiyudhu? I rest my case END DIG

  
  
  If I understand correctly, you are shocked at the way I have interpreted A.Roy's writings ?? well, each one to his own, its my understanding that A.Roy (and others like her) forever looks at unacceptable acts of vandalism/terrorism (that includes brutal maoist attacks in many parts of N.India) through a prism of "you-know-this-happened-coz-of-some-grave-injustice-to-some-community-so-it-was-inevitable-therefore-we-need-to-make-things-better"" blah-blah-blah - had it been a politician, one can have the comfort of dismissing it as perhaps a 'rhetoric' - but someone who is presumably a gifted writer using her literary 'talents' to obfuscate facts to nauseating limits (given a chance, any of us here in the hub can write as well as she does, am sure of that !) time and again is disgusting! is anyone in the Indian public calling for a war ??was there any petition given by any tax-paying citizen demanding an aggressive stance ?? - by our very nature (call it a cultural mindset), arent we pacifist enough ? so why do self-righteous intellectuals like Ms.Roy resort to pre-emptive attacks on the Indian society desperately highlighting the perceived 'injustices' being committed against one community as a reason for repeated attacks ?? why flog a dead 'horse' which is what much of the blissfully ignorant Indian middle-class is all about?? arent we passive and timid enough to forget these attacks in less than a months time and go back to applauding 100s by Tendulkars/Gambhirs and do it over and over again, perhaps, even if and after a nuke goes off ?? AFAIK, people like Ms.Roy under the pretext of adopting 'nadu nilai vaadham' actually suffer from an acute deficiency tat i wud call 'intellectual pakka vaadham' desperately in need of pyschiatric consultation - END DIG
  
  for the MODS - I apologise for these digressions - if we need to discuss this further, lets do it in an appropriate thread
  
  

• From: complicateur on Tue Dec 16 14:42:52 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  I'm actually more interested in the history of these sAdhu groups. I don't know much about their background, so some actual insights on their practices would help.

  
  A link from the Wiki on them. Bala's title is justifiable if the information in the links is accurate.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Tue Dec 16 15:02:52 2008.

  Wonderful link!!
  'Any cremation ground would be a holy place for an aghori'.
  Very revealing line!
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Tue Dec 16 16:34:41 2008.

  Whatever be the case.
  
  Bala is now touching upon a subject that has never been taken in world cinema!!!!
  
  Who knows might be Another entry from India into oscars
  
  

• From: irir123 on Tue Dec 16 17:23:34 2008.

  Bala shd be commended for taking up such a topic - lets wait n see how he has actually handled the subject
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Wed Dec 17 10:17:52 2008.

  Ilaiyaraaja on Naan Kadavul
  
  
  

  Quote:

  Maestro Ilayaraja has said that he was amazed and transfixed while watching Naan Kadavul’s “double positive”. “With this movie, Bala has surpassed his previous bests –Pithamagan, Sethu and Nanda,” said the great music director. He added that it would take years for any other director to attempt such a beautiful theme or to even think of such a theme. The legendary music director also added that he is honoured to compose music for such a film. Ilayaraja stated that as he envisaged the theme, he entered into a “new state of mind” while composing the film’s music. He said he has tried his best to score equally engrossing music. Though Ilayaraja humbly downplays the significance of his music, the effect it had on a sadhu while Bala was filming a song will surely speak for his talent; the sadhu, mesmerized by the song played at the shooting spot in Kasi, walked up to Bala and said it was “divine”, without understanding the Tamil lyrics. This innate capacity of Ilayaraja to create tunes that transcend language barriers, make him Bala's most-preferred music director. In fact, Ilayaraja’s music and Bala’s ideas complement each other. When you watch the film, you will be able to feel what the sadhu meant. Plus, Arya has taken a great deal of effort in putting across Bala’s ideas through his acting. It could be said that he “lived” his character in Naan Kadavul. Heroine Pooja too has given her best in the film, which releases on Pongal. Mysskin, the latest to discover Ilayaraja’s prowess, chose to have a mega climax lasting 45 minutes, without any dialogues, supported only by the maestro's music, for his forthcoming Nandalala.

  
  
  Kalukka Thalaivaa nee
  
  The plot is well known for the regular followers. Kudos to Bala and Raaja for venturing into such a theme
  
  

• From: joe on Wed Dec 17 10:54:35 2008.

  Hope bala will answer(through this movie) for all Nakkals made on him .
  
  

• From: app_engine on Wed Dec 17 11:05:50 2008.

  Typically when some article hypes IR's opinion about a movie, it is bound to be tooooo serious.
  
  So, chances are this movie may get some critical acclaim here and there but success with the general public is quite doubtful. Especially at this time when IR himself is totally out of touch in sensing the pulse of the common public.
  
  So, be prepared for a slooooow, art movie:-)
  
  

• From: irir123 on Wed Dec 17 12:40:46 2008.

  IR said something along similar lines after watching Nasser's 'Avatharam' as well! tat was well-received by critics, but was it commercially well-received ??
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Dec 18 0:47:38 2008.

  A_E,
  
  Bala's movies can never categorized into slow art movies. His are movies which ponders over the life of outlaws or the lumpen's of the society whose lives are vibrant and full of extreme paradoxes. Presenting them in a manner acceptable to the civilised society is Bala's forte and he will not miss it this time too
  
  irir,
  
  IR should have forgotten during avatharam that he had composed a movie earlier similar to the same 'Idea'. The movie was 'Kai kodukum kai' directed by mahendran.
  While now we definitely can vouch for 'Naan Kadavul' as the plot and characters are 'out of the world'.
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Thu Dec 18 5:02:19 2008.

  irir123 wrote:

  IR said something along similar lines after watching Nasser's 'Avatharam' as well! tat was well-received by critics, but was it commercially well-received ??

  
  
  Nope.. Nasser was not able to present in the way that would reach all types of audience.. But Bala's style is very different..
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Thu Dec 18 5:04:36 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  While now we definitely can vouch for 'Naan Kadavul' as the plot and characters are 'out of the world'.

  
  
  I hope you didn't put it literally.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Dec 18 5:50:31 2008.

  thilak4life wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: While now we definitely can vouch for 'Naan Kadavul' as the plot and characters are 'out of the world'. I hope you didn't put it literally.

  
  
  I had that interpretation running in the back of my mind while typing Well should be atleast 'out of the normal world' which we witness.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Dec 18 6:21:37 2008.

  -deleted-
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 18 8:40:16 2008.

  complicateur:
  
  Thanks for the link, it gives more insight about them and their customs.
  
  rs:
  
  I did read your points and I do understand your stance on Aghories and I don't know how to substantiate my stance except calling their act insane/ridiculous.
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Thu Dec 18 10:46:34 2008.

  Ilayaraja impressed with 'Naan Kadavul'
  
  'Naan Kadavul', which is gearing up for a Pongal release, is ready. After two years of intense shooting, the movie has been completed. Ilayaraja, who has composed music for the movie was impressed after watching it.
  
  Speaking after the show, he said, 'it is one of the best movies so far. It is even great than his movies like 'Pithamagan', 'Nandha' and 'Sethu'. I am elated to have been involved in the project'.
  
  'It would be a movie to reckon with for Arya and Pooja. Bala's picturization of Kasi and its adjoining areas would be a visual treat', say insiders.
  
  Also Ilayaraja's music in Mysskin's 'Nandhalala' has touched a new peak, they add.
  
  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43732.html
  
  

• From: irir123 on Thu Dec 18 19:35:39 2008.

  Maddy, Vivasayi and others - lets continue this discussion on A.Roy here - http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=12405
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Fri Dec 19 11:10:53 2008.

  'Naan Kadavul' is my four years of hard work: Bala
  
  Director Bala is pinning high hopes that his 'Naan Kadavul' will fetch him several national awards.
  
  The movie starring Arya and Pooja, is said to a release for Pongal 2009. The film is a result of my toil for over four years. The movie was conceived and executed with co-operation from my crew and co-stars, Bala said.
  
  Speaking about the film, he said, "A host of 120 people from Periya Kulam village have acted in the movie and all have dubbed their own voice."
  
  Sources say Pooja, who has dubbed her own voice too, will be admired for her astounding performance. The climax fights were shot for over 26 days. The post-production works are on and buzz is that the DI works are not being done for the director is aspiring for a National award.
  
  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43758.html
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Dec 19 11:23:23 2008.

  rajasaranam,
  
  அவங்களே "அவார்டு படம்"ணு சொல்லி பயமுறுத்துறாங்க
  
  Despite all the excellent technical characteristics of award movies, despite developing a mindset to enjoy some of the "slow" Malayalam movies, I still have an aversion to the movies that are "taken with a view to getting awards".
  
  That is possibly a big "turn-off" for many average TN people as well, I fear.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Dec 19 11:25:02 2008.

  What are DI works
  
  

• From: app_engine on Fri Dec 19 11:31:45 2008.

  digital imaging?...could be some technological correction stuff...
  
  

• From: villan007 on Fri Dec 19 11:43:30 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  What are DI works

  
  
  color correction
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Dec 19 11:47:09 2008.

  Thanks app and wills, but what's with the NA connection? May be I should let it pass
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Fri Dec 19 11:52:27 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  What are DI works

  
  
  //I don't know about DI works. But I found an article on this in the web.
  
  http://groups.google.co.in/group/digidreams/browse_thread/thread/44336baa23ff678?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=DI+works+in+film+industry
  //
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Dec 19 13:59:35 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  What are DI works

  
  DI probably refers to Digital Intermediates which in "artistic" terms could be construed as cheating because it is not line with artistic notions such as "creative integrity" and "being in the moment". Sort of like submitting a photoshopped picture for a Pulitzer.
  Of course these are assumptions with regard to the stipulations for the NA. But the photography of NK should be interesting. Jeyamohan had written a slightly hagiographic (at least when it comes to his art - he was quite funny while describing his gluttony) piece on Arthur Wilson, the DOP of NK, and his love for Rembrandt and the usage of light in his paintings.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Dec 19 15:08:04 2008.

  Thank you comp. Makes sense now!
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sat Dec 20 8:28:45 2008.

  app_engine wrote:

  rajasaranam, அவங்களே "அவார்டு படம்"ணு சொல்லி பயமுறுத்துறாங்க Despite all the excellent technical characteristics of award movies, despite developing a mindset to enjoy some of the "slow" Malayalam movies, I still have an aversion to the movies that are "taken with a view to getting awards". That is possibly a big "turn-off" for many average TN people as well, I fear.

  
  
  
  பாலாவின் படங்கள் எல்லாமே அவார்ட்'குரிய படங்கள் தான் அதற்க்காக அவற்றில் விறுவிறுப்புக்கு பஞ்சம் இருந்ததா என்ன? மக்களும் புறக்கணிக்காமல் ஏற்று கொண்டார்கள் தானே பிதாமகன் வருவதற்க்கு முன்பும் இதே போல் விருதுகள் அள்ளி குவிக்கும் என பலரும் ஆருடம் சொன்னார்கள் பாலா உட்பட, கிடைக்கவும் செய்தது ஆனால் அது 'மெல்ல நகரும் கலை படம்' அல்லவே! எனவே இந்த படம் மீதும் நம்பிக்கை வைய்யுங்கள்
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Sat Dec 20 15:41:08 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  PR, Yes, great sequence. Lovely song and beautifully picturised. I remember (randomly) raving about this song sequence in different threads here. Like I often end up crying hoarse from the rooftop, Bala is in a league of his own.

  
  
  Yeah. I remember both the comments you quoted above. Particularly the latter which you quoted during our Katradhu Tamil discussion. It was nice to read them again.
  
  What really impressed me this evening was - among the several sequences - was the one where Manju comes with the chocolate box - on her birthday. Forget the principal players, any director will pay attention to them. Karunas is powdering himself ( ), Siththan is looking on his own 'removed' way as the two relate to each other, Gomathi is watching on from a distance with a matronly satisfaction. Just feeling so happy with (and perhaps because) they had little idea of otherness .
  
  Such an undramatic situation - so unlike the Sakthi's black-humorous (prophetic) mock death followed by relief . This one is a small scene with no 'action' to speak of. And he crafted it so beautifully.
  
  I am yet to revisit Nanda - didn't think much of it when I saw it for the first and last time a few years back - except for Surya and Rajkiran being impressive. Sethu did have many 'ordinary' parts to be considered a great and complete work. But Pithamagan alone is sufficient to place Bala in a league of his own. I too don't compare him with anyone else.
  
  

  equanimus wrote:

  I can assuredly say that I've made the "leap of faith" when it comes to Bala. I have no apprehension whatsoever about his upcoming films like I would for any other from the current crop of filmmakers. It's just a matter of how good/great they are going to be.

  
  I don't share your ..er.... equanimity here.I am a little worried about NK from all that I hear. Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes. I am hoping for the best though.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sat Dec 20 16:21:19 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  I am yet to revisit Nanda - didn't think much of it when I saw it for the first and last time a few years back - except for Surya and Rajkiran being impressive. Sethu did have many 'ordinary' parts to be considered a great and complete work. But Pithamagan alone is sufficient to place Bala in a league of his own. I too don't compare him with anyone else.

  
  It has been a while since I saw NandhA. But there is a 4 second portion in MunpaniyA that gave me the impression that Bala was someone who truly understood his characters. The shot from 3:33 - 3:37 has stayed with me unsullied by time and the volume of visual imagery I have consumed since I saw Nandha last.
  
  It is framed to suggest that Nandha and the girl he is interested in are all alone (they are probably not considering they are on a moving boat). But yet he resists the impulse to touch her. A reaction to be expected from someone who has consigned all of is personal feelings to storage in favor of a universal moral code that has clear demarcations of what is right and what is wrong (Probably why he is so swayed by Periyavar's "Dharma SamsthArpanArthAya, SambhavAmi yugE yugE" speech). Prison hasn't "rehabilitated" him. Inside he is still the same child that believes his abusive, philandering father deserved to die for his sins. I thought it was a neat encapsulation of who Nandha was.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Sat Dec 20 16:40:55 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  What really impressed me this evening was - among the several sequences - was the one where Manju comes with the chocolate box - on her birthday. Forget the principal players, any director will pay attention to them. Karunas is powdering himself ( ), Siththan is looking on his own 'removed' way as the two relate to each other, Gomathi is watching on from a distance with a matronly satisfaction. Just feeling so happy with (and perhaps because) they had little idea of otherness .

  
  Yes! A good artist's concerns are in the details, you see. And, Siththan actually gazing at Karunas making himself up (or is that what you actually meant?) and Karunas gives back a friendly glance as if to ask if the make-up looks fine.
  It's terribly complacent to think that 'pithAmagan' (or Bala for that matter) is all about intense, dramatic morbidity. The Siththan scenes I had mentioned in one of the two posts come to mind.
  Talking of "details," you just have to see how valuably (and respectfully) Bala includes the side/fringe characters in any scene. In the scene where Gomathi offers Siththan good, there's a beautiful cut to ganjA kodukki just watching him eat that always moves me. Especially the BGM bit that Bala has "earned" for this scene from Raaja.
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  I am yet to revisit Nanda - didn't think much of it when I saw it for the first and last time a few years back - except for Surya and Rajkiran being impressive. Sethu did have many 'ordinary' parts to be considered a great and complete work. But Pithamagan alone is sufficient to place Bala in a league of his own. I too don't compare him with anyone else.

  
  Well, I think 'nandhA' is quite superb too. (The "larger audience" -- just reflecting on the collective consciousness of the incoherent mass of film-watchers here -- is an oppressive lot and more than a bit self-serving in calling out just the "critically acclaimed" box-office hits as classics.) 'sEthu' for all its worth is a launch film in many ways, sandwiching two loosely connected stories. Bala surely showed enough signs of his artistry, but just too far from being his signature film.
  

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  equanimus wrote: I can assuredly say that I've made the "leap of faith" when it comes to Bala. I have no apprehension whatsoever about his upcoming films like I would for any other from the current crop of filmmakers. It's just a matter of how good/great they are going to be. I don't share your ..er.... equanimity here.I am a little worried about NK from all that I hear. Intensity can be so hit-or-miss sometimes. I am hoping for the best though.

  
  Oh, appadiyA? enga thalaivar mudippAru, nambunga! sAr.. nambaNum. Jokes apart, I of course understand your concern about the thin rope between "it works" and "ah, well... whatever" when it comes to these sort of "intense" films. I guess we've to wait!
  
  

• From: equanimus on Sat Dec 20 17:06:20 2008.

  complicateur wrote:

  It has been a while since I saw NandhA. But there is a 4 second portion in MunpaniyA that gave me the impression that Bala was someone who truly understood his characters. The shot from 3:33 - 3:37 has stayed with me unsullied by time and the volume of visual imagery I have consumed since I saw Nandha last.

  
  Complicateur,
  Another beautifully picturised song, this one. The locales of Rameswaram are explored beautifully within the narrative of the film, the visual motifs often suggesting Nandha's loneliness. (Of course, Bala is above just using shots of known places from the setting in a placard-holding manner.)
  About the shot you've talked about, I've always felt it is a nod to a similar shot in 'nAyagan.' The early morning scene in the brothel. The relationship the two share here is also quite similar.
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Sun Dec 21 0:04:01 2008.

  complicateur wrote:

  It has been a while since I saw NandhA. But there is a 4 second portion in MunpaniyA that gave me the impression that Bala was someone who truly understood his characters. The shot from 3:33 - 3:37 has stayed with me unsullied by time and the volume of visual imagery I have consumed since I saw Nandha last.

  
  YSR's composition is also very good. I think this one among the first instance when he shows what he is capable of.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Dec 22 22:34:44 2008.

  Saimira’s new channel
  IndiaGlitz [Monday, December 22, 2008]
  
  The multinational Indian company, Pyramid Saimira is now venturing into the field of FM radio. They will be launching their new radio station Saimira FM by January, 2009. The large group of companies has a strong hold on the entertainment industry with film production, distribution and theatres. The erudite business strategy of pyramid companies is by acquiring theatres before they made their first step into cinema. Later, their movie production company had an upper hand to screen the flicks in their multiplexes. On the same line, they are planning to launch an fm as they already a wide range of have music albums in their banner.
  
  A new wing of theirs is Pyramid audios that hold the audio rights for a slew of the recently released and upcoming movies.
  
  Pyramid audios are releasing the music of 'En Eppadi Mayakinai', composed by an erstwhile associate of AR Rahman shortly. The much anticipated Bala's 'Naan Kadavul' is also being released by the same company which is pipelined to be out before the end of December.
  
  Having a wide range of songs at their disposal is a prominent advantage for Saimira after they start their very own fm channel. The launch is being said to use the rights and facilitate it for a wider reach among global audiences.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Wed Dec 24 1:11:37 2008.

  Nerd: nallAvE kozhappurAinga. Zee-yO, Saimira-vO ozhunga release paNNA seri.
  
  Thamizh: I would say pUvellAm kEttuppAr was the first indication of talent from Yuvan, at least from a populist standpoint. But as far as handling material with some emotional onus, yes NanthA was the first instance.
  
  equanimus: That scene works better here for me than it did in nAyagan. There it sort of (re?)establishes maNi saar's gangster with a golden heart. Here I thought it underscored the hopelessness of NanthA's romance and that appealed to me more.
  
  

  equanimus wrote:

  Talking of "details," you just have to see how valuably (and respectfully) Bala includes the side/fringe characters in any scene. In the scene where Gomathi offers Siththan good, there's a beautiful cut to ganjA kodukki just watching him eat that always moves me. Especially the BGM bit that Bala has "earned" for this scene from Raaja.

  
  
  This description from you prompted a re-watch. That ganja kudukki is Ganja karuppu (in his first on screen appearance probably). And yes you can begin to hear the strains of iLangAththu veesuthE and feel the tugs of attachment. In fact what GanjA karuppu says to Siththan is very poignant. Pieced together some desultory(?) thoughts in the recently watched movies thread.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Dec 25 10:09:26 2008.

  equi/Compli
  
  That scene just perfectly sets the stage for 'elangaathu Veesuthey' that going to flow like a breeze. the growing love & warmth between all the characters involved, the fun and frolic they have - everything forms the mood of the song thats gonna come-up next.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Dec 25 10:14:30 2008.

  Kadavul Varugiraar Othungi nillu
  
  

  Quote:

  Good news, the music of Bala's magnum opus Njaan Kadavul will be launched on January 1, 2009 Thursday at Sathyam Cinema's in Chennai. When director Bala does something, he does it in style and we are sure it will be a glitzy affair. The perfectionist that he is, Bala has been working on the Arya- Pooja starrer for nearly two year now, and all those who're associated with it think it will be a sure shot success, bagging many awards. The film which has music by the maestro Ilayaraja, is said to be spell binding. While the technicians are elated at the expectations of an award that the movie has generated, director Bala has spoken to the lead artistes of the movie and asked them to dub for themselves, making them eligible for an award.

  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Dec 25 11:02:40 2008.

  been to thiruvannamalai...when we were on the girivalam on car, "poovar senni mannan" was played loudly.
  
  whata song it was...takes us to another plane altogether.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Dec 25 19:36:59 2008.

  விரைவில் பாடல்கள்
  http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/26122008/MDSU053384.jpg
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Dec 25 23:21:00 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  விரைவில் பாடல்கள் http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/26122008/MDSU053384.jpg

  
  
  
  Should be out next week?
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Dec 25 23:24:26 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  விரைவில் பாடல்கள் http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/26122008/MDSU053384.jpg

  wow
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sat Dec 27 8:31:56 2008.

  ஜன. 1ல் 'நான் கடவுள்' ஆடியோ!
  
  பெரும் எதிர்பார்ப்பை ஏற்படுத்தியுள்ள இயக்குநர் பாலாவின் நான் கடவுள் படத்தின் ஆடியோ ஜனவரி 1ம் தேதி ரிலீஸாகிறது. பொங்கலுக்கு படத்தைத் தருகிறார் பாலா.
  
  ஆர்யா, பூஜாவின் நடிப்பில் பாலா இழைத்து இழைத்து உருவாக்கியுள்ள பிரமாண்டப் படம் நான் கடவுள். கிட்டத்தட்ட ஒரு ஆண்டுக்கும் மேலாக உருவாக்கத்தில் இருந்து வந்த நான் கடவுள் ஒரு வழியாக நிறைவடைந்து விட்டது. பொங்கல் முதல் திரைக்கு வருகிறது.
  
  மிகப் பெரும் எதிர்பார்ப்பை இப்படம் ஏற்படுத்தியுள்ளது. பாலாவின் இயக்கம், ஆர்யாவின் அபார நடிப்பு, பூஜாவின் பிரமிப்பூட்டும் இயல்பான நடிப்பு, இசைஞானி இளையராஜாவின் இசை என ஏகப்பட்ட ஸ்பெஷல் சமாச்சாரங்கள் படத்தில் உள்ளனவாம்.
  
  படத்திற்கு சரமாரியாக விருதுகள் கிடைக்கும் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இருப்பதால், யாரும் விட்டுப் போய் விடக் கூடாது என்பதற்காக படத்தில் நடித்துள்ள அனைவருமே சொந்தக் குரலில் பேசியுள்ளனராம்.
  
  பாலாவின் சொந்த ஊரான பெரியகுளத்தைச் சேர்ந்த நூற்றுக்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் இப்படத்தில் நடித்துள்ளனர். அத்தனை பேரும் சமீபத்தில் சென்னைக்கு வரவழைக்கப்பட்டு சொந்தக் குரலில் டப்பிங் பேசிக் கொடுத்து விட்டுச் சென்றனராம்.
  
  படத்தின் ஆடியோ வெளியீடு சென்னை சத்தியம் சினிமாஸில் ஜனவரி 1ம் தேதி நடைபெறுகிறது. பிரமாண்டமான அளவில் இதை ஏற்பாடு செய்து வருகின்றனர்.
  
  படத்தின் பாடல்கள் பிரமிக்க வைக்கும் வகையில் அமைந்துள்ளதாம். இதுகுறித்து யூனிட் நபர் ஒருவர் நம்மிடம் கிசுகிசுக்கையில்,பாடல்கள் அத்தனையும் அபாரமாக உள்ளன. ஒவ்வொரு காட்சியையும் பாலா சார் அற்புதமாக படமாக்கியுள்ளார்.
  
  இந்த முறை இளையராஜா சாருக்கு தேசிய விருது நிச்சயம் கிடைக்கும். அவருடைய முயற்சிகள் அசாதாரமானவை. பாலா எந்த அளவுக்கு கடுமையாக உழைத்தாரோ, அதே அளவிலான முயற்சிகளை ராஜா சாரும் காட்டியுள்ளார் என்றார்.
  
  http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/12/26-naan-kadavul-audio-from-new-year.html
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Dec 27 8:37:20 2008.

  steveaustin wrote:

  படத்தின் ஆடியோ வெளியீடு சென்னை சத்தியம் சினிமாஸில் ஜனவரி 1ம் தேதி நடைபெறுகிறது. பிரமாண்டமான அளவில் இதை ஏற்பாடு செய்து வருகின்றனர்.

  
  
  போட்டுத் தாக்கு....போட்டுத் தாக்கு....
  
  

• From: viraajan on Sat Dec 27 10:58:28 2008.

  Nandhalala, Nan Kadavul renduthukkume National Award chances irukku
  
  Raaja Raaja than!!!
  
  Cant wait to listen to the songs!!!
  
  //judge, atlast unga avtar change panniteengala?
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Dec 27 14:10:50 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  விரைவில் பாடல்கள் http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/26122008/MDSU053384.jpg

  
  
  Wow
  
  Ennapa Saamiyaru shoe ellam potu irukaru
  
  
  I am expecting the movie to be spell binding and explore another mindset of dark and stark human mentality
  
  Arya looks terrific in this get up!
  
  

• From: dell_gt on Sat Dec 27 22:37:08 2008.

  Quote:

  Nerd wrote: விரைவில் பாடல்கள் http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/26122008/MDSU053384.jpg

  
  
  looks intresting
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 28 8:49:25 2008.

  Quote:

  Alex ♪♪ Raaja's 1st SONG - in Nankaduval dear fans / devotess of Meastro Raaja sir In this movie : Bala (Director) using Pitchai pathiram yanthi vanthan - Nan kaduval ( from Ramana malai Non film album ) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ytoizfwidd1 which is Soulful * - divine song Penned, Performed and composed by Meastro - Ilayaraaja sir Note : And also Heared - Chitra Akka - render Female Version Raaja Rules

  
  
  http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=34613&tid=5276074750033278703&na=2&nst=33
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 28 8:49:55 2008.

  VIRAIVIL PAADALGAL
  
  
  http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/johnalex_217/Nan20kadavul20-201520x2011.jpg
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Dec 28 8:59:04 2008.

  song
  
  expecting to watch it on big screen
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sun Dec 28 9:04:59 2008.

  Today Daily Thanthi Paper Ads too stating that 'Naan Kadavul' Film Songs are from January 1, 2009.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 28 10:10:18 2008.

  DECEMBER 28th DAILY THANTHI AD:
  
  
  http://i40.tinypic.com/jki1rk.jpg
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Dec 28 12:44:11 2008.

  http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5070/nkfp3.jpg
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sun Dec 28 13:09:58 2008.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  DECEMBER 28th DAILY THANTHI AD: http://i40.tinypic.com/jki1rk.jpg

  
  
  ருத்ர தான்டவம்
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Sun Dec 28 23:23:49 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: DECEMBER 28th DAILY THANTHI AD: http://i40.tinypic.com/jki1rk.jpg ருத்ர தான்டவம்

  
  
  stills ellaam paaththaa , padam pattayakelappum pola theriyudhu
  
  che , missed a golden oppurtunity
  
  PS.. edhu eppadiyO ,oru ka(o)lai kudumbaththukkitta irundhu thamizh cinemaava kaappaaththunaa sandhOsham
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Dec 29 0:16:08 2008.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  Quote: Alex ♪♪ Raaja's 1st SONG - in Nankaduval dear fans / devotess of Meastro Raaja sir In this movie : Bala (Director) using Pitchai pathiram yanthi vanthan - Nan kaduval ( from Ramana malai Non film album ) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ytoizfwidd1 which is Soulful * - divine song Penned, Performed and composed by Meastro - Ilayaraaja sir Note : And also Heared - Chitra Akka - render Female Version Raaja Rules http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=34613&tid=5276074750033278703&na=2&nst=33

  
  
  eh.. EKIRI
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 0:39:20 2008.

  Nerd,
  
  'Pitchai Paathiram yenthi vanthen', 'Maatha un kovilil' intha rendu paattum NK'la use panna poarangannu romba naala seithigal vanthutte thaan irukku. Album'la Periya Expectation onnum vechukaatheenga RR'la la thaan poonthu vilaiyaadi irupaar Raaja
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 29 1:01:13 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Nerd, 'Pitchai Paathiram yenthi vanthen', 'Maatha un kovilil' intha rendu paattum NK'la use panna poarangannu romba naala seithigal vanthutte thaan irukku. Album'la Periya Expectation onnum vechukaatheenga RR'la la thaan poonthu vilaiyaadi irupaar Raaja

  
  
  Me too thinking the same Atleast one song on the lines of 'iLankAththu' will be enough for me.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 29 1:06:39 2008.

  viraajan wrote:

  //judge, atlast unga avtar change panniteengala?

  
  
  I was thinking to stick with one avatar, but the figure made me to change, nothing in my hands now you see
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 3:16:09 2008.

  http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/43944.html
  
  
  Gallery வார்த்தை இல்லை! visual treat Raaja enna panni irukkaaro. Cant wait
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 3:26:13 2008.

  indiaglitz Bhavana kooda irukira pazhaya stills ellam vaera poattu sothapraan
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 29 6:50:59 2008.

  http://tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/december/291208c.asp
  
  wat is that uttham singh connection in the music department???
  
  

• From: Scale on Mon Dec 29 6:59:48 2008.

  
  
  theatre screena kizhikkaama irundha sari couldnt resist from posting
  
  Shocking News: Uttam Singh is sharing the credits with IR in BGM.
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 7:26:22 2008.

  Uttam singh should have sung a song or should have assisted in arrangements. Lets wait for the official release of the news. however if Raaja has infact sharing credits with Singh in 'composing' it shows signs of attitude change in Raaja which may prove better if some more 'collaborations' are made possible in the future
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 29 7:27:37 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Uttam singh should have sung a song or should have assisted in arrangements. Lets wait for the official release of the news. however if Raaja has infact sharing credits with Singh in 'composing' it shows signs of attitude change in Raaja which may prove better if some more 'collaborations' are made possible in the future

  
  
  give us a brief on uttam singh please...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Dec 29 7:30:19 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: Uttam singh should have sung a song or should have assisted in arrangements. Lets wait for the official release of the news. however if Raaja has infact sharing credits with Singh in 'composing' it shows signs of attitude change in Raaja which may prove better if some more 'collaborations' are made possible in the future give us a brief on uttam singh please...

  
  
  he was a arranger for some popular MD (i cant put my hands on that name).........he is basically a arranger...he was the composer for dil to pagal hai and Gadar-Ek prem katha
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 29 7:32:20 2008.

  thanks maddy....
  anyway i dont understand if he is really needed here... lets wait for the updates to know the real connection...
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 7:33:22 2008.

  SS,
  
  Wiki panni therinjikka kooda naan thaan help pannanuma?!!
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_Singh
  
  He is a good friend of Raaja and his daughter preeti uttam has sung some songs for Raaja. He was the conductor and arranger during Raaja's Italy visit.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 29 7:35:49 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  SS, Wiki panni therinjikka kooda naan thaan help pannanuma?!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_Singh He is a good friend of Raaja and his daughter preeti uttam has sung some songs for Raaja. He was the conductor and arranger during Raaja's Italy visit.

  
  
  nan wiki pani therinjukittaen...
  but podhuva ellaarukkum theriyattumaenu dhaan "give us a brief on him" nu sonen...
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Dec 29 7:36:24 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  thanks maddy.... anyway i dont understand if he is really needed here... lets wait for the updates to know the real connection...

  
  
  May be Raaja thought of using someone in the caliber of HSridhar (Who is no more sadly ) for arrangements and brought in US.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Dec 29 7:36:54 2008.

  mm... possible...
  
  

• From: kamalsurya on Mon Dec 29 7:43:16 2008.

  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul/naan-kadavul-01.html
  
  Naan Kadavul Pictures, Looks impressive.
  
  My Fav:
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul/naan-kadavul-04.html
  
  

• From: directhit on Mon Dec 29 7:57:53 2008.

  http://tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/GALLERY/MOVIES/Naankadavul/photosxml.aspx
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 29 8:15:35 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  indiaglitz Bhavana kooda irukira pazhaya stills ellam vaera poattu sothapraan

  
  
  Only the first 35 stills are new ones.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Dec 29 8:36:49 2008.

  The movie is going for censorship tomorrow, so it is completed officially now.
  Stills ellAm
  Too much hype-A irukku
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Mon Dec 29 8:47:02 2008.

  directhit wrote:

  http://tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/GALLERY/MOVIES/Naankadavul/photosxml.aspx

  
  
  DH, Thanks.....
  
  Wow..... Fantastic stills. It seems that it will be a milestone of ARYA's career. It makes my Blood pressure raising.
  A(wa)R(d)YA intha stills-ukku. However, his looks resemble me Marudhanayagam.
  
  Look at this one: http://tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/GALLERY/MOVIES/Naankadavul/photosxml.aspx?photo=30
  
  Good lighting and a stylish one....
  
  POOJA is in the movie or not....
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Mon Dec 29 9:40:19 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Uttam singh should have sung a song or should have assisted in arrangements.

  
  RS, do you know who was the arranger for Hey ram music. If it didnt require one, this may also not need one. Eitherway he should be only credited as arranger right? epdi pathalum music mosama irundha pazhi poda oru aalu kedachachu
  
  

  Quote:

  Lets wait for the official release of the news. however if Raaja has infact sharing credits with Singh in 'composing' it shows signs of attitude change in Raaja which may prove better if some more 'collaborations' are made possible in the future

  
  
  IR & ARR
  
  Rahman no problem nu solitaaru... IR
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Mon Dec 29 11:15:42 2008.

  நான் கடவுள்: பிரமிக்க வைக்கும் பாலா!
  
  இத்தனை நாள் காத்திருப்பை முடிவுக்குக் கொண்டு வந்துவிட்டார் இயக்குனர் பாலா. ஒரு மாதம், ஒரு வருடம் அல்ல... மூன்று நெடிய ஆண்டுகள்...
  
  தமிழ் சினிமா ரசிகர்கள் இதுவரை பெற்றிராத புதிய அனுபவத்தைத் தர வருகிறது பாலா இயக்கத்தில் உருவாகியுள்ள நான் கடவுள் திரைப்படம்.
  
  இதுவரை அந்தப் படத்தின் ஒரு சில ஸ்டில்கள்தான் பத்திரிகைகளில் வெளிவந்திருந்தன. படம் முழுவதும் முடியும் வரை அமைதி காத்த பாலா, இப்போது தன் பிஆர்ஓ நிகில் முருகன் மூலம் வேண்டிய மட்டும் ஸ்டில்களை அனுப்பியுள்ளார்.
  
  ஒவ்வொரு புகைப்படமும் பாலாவின் மீது பிரமிப்பையும், படத்தைப் பற்றிய எதிரிப்பார்ப்பையும் கூட்டுவதாக உள்ளன.
  
  இந்தப் படத்தின் கதாநாயகன் ஆர்யா. மொத்தம் 3 ஆண்டுகள் ஜடா முடியும், நெஞ்சைத் தொடும் தாடியுமாக ஒரு விரதம் போல காத்திருந்தார். எவ்வளவோ பேர் அவரை அதைரியப்படுத்தியும், பாலா மீதுள்ள அசைக்க முடியாத நம்பிக்கை காரணமாக புதிய படங்களையும் ஒப்புக் கொள்ளவில்லை, தாடியையும் மழிக்கவில்லை. தன்னுடைய முதல் படம் இதுதான் என பெருமையுடன் சொல்லிக் கொள்வேன் என்கிறார் பெருமிதத்துடன்.
  
  ராஜாவின் பிரமிப்பு!:
  
  படத்தின் முக்கியமான விஷயம், நமது இசைஞானியின் இசை. பாடல்களில் புதிய சாதனைப் படைத்திருக்கும் ராஜா, பின்னணி இசையில் பல காட்சிகளில் ஜெயமோகனின் வசனங்களுக்கு வேலை இல்லாமல் செய்திருக்கிறாராம்.
  
  இந்தப் டத்தைப் பார்த்து பிரமித்துப் போன ராஜா, தன் விருப்பப்படி இசையமைக்க கொஞ்சம் அவகாசம் தேவைப்படும் என்றாராம். அதுமட்டுமல்ல, பின்னணி இசையில் புதிய பரிமாணம் காட்ட பிரபல இந்தி இசையமைப்பாளர் உத்தம் சிங்கையும் (தில் தோ பாகல் ஹை இசையமைப்பாளர்) தன்னுடன் இணைத்துக் கொண்டுள்ளார்.
  
  ஜனவரி 1ம் தேதி முதல் விற்பனைக்கு வரும் நான் கடவுள் இசையின் மூலம், 'நான் இசை' என உலகுக்கு அழுத்தமாக நிரூபிப்பார் ராஜா என்கிறார்கள் படக் குழுவினர்.
  
  படத்தில் பணியாற்றிய அனைத்துக் கலைஞர்களும் இது ஒரு சர்வதேச தரத்தில் அமைந்துள்ள படம் என்பதில் உறுதியாக இருக்கிறார்கள். அதனால்தான் அனைவருமே சொந்தக் குரலில் பேசியிருக்கின்றனர். தசாவதாரத்தில் பெருமாளைப் புகழ்ந்து பாடல் புனைந்த வாலியின் பேனா, இந்தப் படத்தில் சிவனின் மகிமையைப் பாடலாக்கியிருக்கிறது.
  
  படத்தின் கதையை முன்கூட்டியே பத்திரிகையாளர்களுக்கு தெரிவித்துள்ளார் பாலா.
  
  மூட நம்பிக்கை காரணமாக தன் மகனை காசியில் அனாதையாக விட்டுவிட்டு வருகிறார் ஒரு தந்தை. அந்தச் சிறுவன் காசியில் சாதுக்களின் மத்தியில் ஜடாமுடியும், தாடியும் வைத்துக் கொண்டு ஒரு இளம் சாதுவாக வளர்கிறான். தன் தவறை உணர்ந்த தந்தை மீண்டும் மகனைத் தேடி காசிக்கு வருகிறார். மகனின் நிலையைக் கண்டு அதிர்ந்து போய், மீண்டும் அவனை தன்னுடன் ஊருக்குக் கூட்டிச் செல்ல முயல்கிறார். மகனும் தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு வருகிறான்... அதன் பிறகு நடக்கும் அடுத்தடுத்த அதிர்ச்சிகள்தான் படம, அந்த இளைஞனை 'கடவுளாக' மாற்றுகின்றன!
  
  கடவுளை 'தரிசிக்க' காத்திருக்கிறோம் பாலா!
  
  http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/12/29-naan-kadavul-first-look.html
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 29 11:27:54 2008.

  Ellam ok, Arya dhaan drishti pottu nu karudharen. He just can't act IMO...
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Dec 29 11:45:33 2008.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Nerd, 'Pitchai Paathiram yenthi vanthen', 'Maatha un kovilil' intha rendu paattum NK'la use panna poarangannu romba naala seithigal vanthutte thaan irukku. Album'la Periya Expectation onnum vechukaatheenga RR'la la thaan poonthu vilaiyaadi irupaar Raaja

  
  ramaNamaalai kEttirukkEn. 3-4 paadalgaL arumayaa irukkum including the pitchai pAthiram. But I expected all-new songs. BGM pathi ellAm sollavE vENAm
  
  CR, surya's uyirilE kalanthathu released before nandhA
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Dec 29 11:57:53 2008.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Ellam ok, Arya dhaan drishti pottu nu karudharen. He just can't act IMO...

  
  
  poovellam ketupar suryavaye nadikka vechurukaru...dialogues would be minimum i guess
  
  

• From: Avadi to America on Mon Dec 29 12:11:08 2008.

  I do not think anyone can do better Rerecording than IR in these kind of movies.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Dec 29 12:18:21 2008.

  Nerd,Viv,
  Adhuvum sari dhaan aana Suriya's problem (pre-Nandha) was inhibition i think.. pappom...
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 29 12:27:43 2008.

  Nerd wrote:

  CR, surya's uyirilE kalanthathu released before nandhA

  
  adhAnE! And for the record, I think Arya is already a significantly better actor than the Surya of those days (uyirilE kalandhadhu, periyaNNA!). In fact, I don't think he's that bad at all. Just that he has overdone his attempts at giving a sort of dry "Bressonian" performance.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Mon Dec 29 12:40:33 2008.

  In one of the Koffee with Anu episodes, somebody (a director, Saran I think) was making fun of Arya saying he can't act and has about 4 readymade expressions and a director's job is to just say expression#3, no need to go through the pain of explaining the scene/situation etc. Best part is Arya was the other guest and he was enjoying it
  
  Arya was not bad in pattiyal, Oram pO.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 29 12:46:25 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  In fact, I don't think he's that bad at all. Just that he has overdone his attempts at giving a sort of dry Bressonian" performance.

  
  
  With a voice as expressive as his - it is a credit to his confidence and our patience that he is an actor.
  
  Didn't actually get Bressonian , though I think I get what you mean.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 29 13:07:00 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  With a voice as expressive as his - it is a credit to his confidence and our patience that he is an actor.

  
  Offbeat voices don't grate on my nerves that often, so I'd not stress too much on that.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Didn't actually get Bressonian , though I think I get what you mean.

  
  I use "Bressonian" to suggest focussed non-performance. To illustrate, one can say that Ravi Krishna's in '7/G Rainbow Colony' is the best non-performance we've seen this decade.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 29 13:11:35 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Offbeat voices don't grate on my nerves that often, so I'd not stress too much on that.

  
  Thou art bless'd
  
  The Johnson's buds division is kept afloat by my attempts to rid myself of the effets of "illa paramA...", for the past few months.
  
  

• From: equanimus on Mon Dec 29 13:13:43 2008.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  The Johnson's buds division is kept afloat by my attempts to rid myself of the effets of "illa paramA...", for the past few months.

  
  Ha ha! kAyam kAdhulayA irukku, manasula irukku.
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Mon Dec 29 13:17:28 2008.

  equanimus wrote:

  Ha ha! kAyam kAdhulayA irukku, manasula irukku.

  
  
  adhukku vEra marundhu...
  (ah finally relevant to the NK thread )
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Mon Dec 29 16:35:09 2008.

  Terrific stills, ARYA really looks deadly as an AGORI BABA!!!
  
  PITCHAI PAATHIRAM is a wonderful song. To love lyrics admirers this is not the album for u, for soulful lyrics n music with lots of mysticism its the album for them!!!
  
  IR would have done a great job no doubt!!!
  
  Bala would surely give a turning point to ARYA as he gave to surya in nandha!!!
  
  This is an unexplored subject, hope Bala makes it in a classier way than his previous ventures
  
  
  Its good Bala had an actor with big n powerful eyes which really makes him look violent and with his gigantic frame, arya is terrific.
  
  Hope he acts well too
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Tue Dec 30 1:43:40 2008.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  Terrific stills, ARYA really looks deadly as an AGORI BABA!!! PITCHAI PAATHIRAM is a wonderful song. To love lyrics admirers this is not the album for u, for soulful lyrics n music with lots of mysticism its the album for them!!! IR would have done a great job no doubt!!! Bala would surely give a turning point to ARYA as he gave to surya in nandha!!! This is an unexplored subject, hope Bala makes it in a classier way than his previous ventures Its good Bala had an actor with big n powerful eyes which really makes him look violent and with his gigantic frame, arya is terrific. Hope he acts well too

  
  
  Ajith fans ellaam vanthu padatha expect panni paesurathu, welcome change
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Tue Dec 30 2:24:29 2008.

  i guess arya is performing better and for example u can take his role in arindhum ariyamalum... he did that easy guy role with ease... and for showing anger and stuff he is really good i believe...
  
  something in him would hav triggered bala to choose him for this movie... lets wait to see wat it could be...
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Dec 30 2:33:28 2008.

  SoftSword wrote:

  i guess arya is performing better and for example u can take his role in arindhum ariyamalum... he did that easy guy role with ease... and for showing anger and stuff he is really good i believe... something in him would hav triggered bala to choose him for this movie... lets wait to see wat it could be...

  
  
  andha kangal
  
  and Arya is a decent and OK actor in his generation simbu, barath, jeeva, seyamravi'ku ivaru evlavO paravaa illa
  
  ORAMPO, last scene'la andha cooling glass pOttuttu chummaa billaa-Ajith maadhiri kalakkalaa iruppaap'la
  
  Let us hope that Arya becomes a big-actor in Tamilcinema
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Tue Dec 30 2:35:51 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Ajith fans ellaam vanthu padatha expect panni paesurathu, welcome change

  
  
  me too expecting for Arya and also for my sweety pooja and mainly for the ISAIKKADAVUL
  
  

• From: MADDY on Tue Dec 30 4:29:16 2008.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Ajith fans ellaam vanthu padatha expect panni paesurathu, welcome change me too expecting for Arya and also for my sweety pooja and mainly for the ISAIKKADAVUL

  
  
  now you know why, TM .....
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Tue Dec 30 9:02:25 2008.

  All about Naan Kadavul
  
  Naan Kadavul will go in for the censor certification before December 30th as the team hopes to get into the 2008 awards race. The film stars Arya, Pooja, Keerthana, Singam Puli, Rajendran, Azhagan Tamizhmani, Kovai Krishnamoorthy and about 175 newbies. Interestingly, Azhagan Tamizhmani is the producer of Naan Kadavul and Rajendran and Singam
  
  Puli are the stuntman and director respectively. Keerthana, a transgender, and Kovai Krishnamoorthy – the singer also makes their debut with Naan Kadavul. Two other directors who made their debut with this film are Acharya Ravi and Rasaiyya Kannan.
  
  The film features 450 handicapped and senior citizens of which 48 have never seen a movie till date. Bala's initiative was lauded at the World Disabled Day, which was celebrated in the Villupuram this year. The director was also applauded for bringing all these people to Chennai for the dubbing session. According to the director's sources, a doctor was specifically assigned to take care of the senior citizens while they were in Chennai.
  Yet another piece of information that we have about this project is that Ilayaraja, after seeing the film, refused to disclose the number of days he would require to complete the background score. To help the maestro out, the producer roped in Bollywood musician Uttam Singh and he worked in tandem with Ilayaraja.
  
  Audio of the movie is slated to be released on the New Year’s day, January 1, and the movie on the Pongal day.
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-04/naan-kadavul-30-12-08.html
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Dec 30 10:43:18 2008.

  What's with our media?? Super promotion this and it's been going on for the past one month or so
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Tue Dec 30 10:46:48 2008.

  its good for the film...
  mattha padatthukkelllaam pala page promotion nadakkurappo idhukku panradhula enna thappu.... known the reputation of the director, MD etc..
  
  

• From: Nerd on Tue Dec 30 10:54:41 2008.

  I am not against it SS. You must pay them to promote your film - this is how our media works. And I m really shocked at their promotion for this film. And I can't wait to watch it, though it may not release here
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Tue Dec 30 16:23:40 2008.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: Terrific stills, ARYA really looks deadly as an AGORI BABA!!! PITCHAI PAATHIRAM is a wonderful song. To love lyrics admirers this is not the album for u, for soulful lyrics n music with lots of mysticism its the album for them!!! IR would have done a great job no doubt!!! Bala would surely give a turning point to ARYA as he gave to surya in nandha!!! This is an unexplored subject, hope Bala makes it in a classier way than his previous ventures Its good Bala had an actor with big n powerful eyes which really makes him look violent and with his gigantic frame, arya is terrific. Hope he acts well too Ajith fans ellaam vanthu padatha expect panni paesurathu, welcome change

  
  
  
  Bala is a bad human. And i did not find anything great in his previous ventures Nandha was ordinary, Sethu Vikram pulled it so did Pithamagan.
  
  But NAAN KADAVUL is an unexplored subject and ARYA looks very good. Thats the only reason
  
  
  BY THE WAY UNGA DPla IRUKURAVARU YAARU?
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Wed Dec 31 8:57:06 2008.

  Bala kick starts New Year in Style!
  
  Despite the lifelessness in the scene, customary with the year end drawing closer, director Bala is providing enough fodder to the media. His much anticipated Naan Kadavul is releasing in early 2009 and Kollywood is gearing up for the movie's screening. As a precursor, the movie's audio and trailer are planned to be released tomorrow, the New Year's Day at 9.00 am at the Satyam Theater Complex.
  
  The eminent list of Guest of Honor includes K. Balachander, Bharathiraja, Mani Ratnam, Ilayaraja, Vaalee, Balu Mahendra, Mahendran, Rama Narayanan and Pyramid Swaminathan. The movie's audio, scored by Maestro Ilayaraja and the Bollywood musician Uttam Singh, will be released in the event by Vikram and received by Suriya.
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-08-04/naan-kadavul-31-12-08.html
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Wed Dec 31 9:09:10 2008.

  what the hell... they give equal importance to uttam singh along with IR while crediting for music...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 31 9:43:57 2008.

  Movie may be released on 29th instead of 14th. - tamilcinema.com
  
  innEram censor officials should have seen it.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 31 9:54:59 2008.

  'Naan Kadavul' gets U/A certification
  IndiaGlitz [Wednesday, December 31, 2008]
  
  The highly anticipated 'Naan Kadavul' directed by Bala is finally ready and has been certified U/A by the Censor Board. A special screening was held for the members of the Censor Board earlier today. The film stars Arya and Pooja in lead roles.
  
  Interestingly the music album of the film by maestro Illayaraja is all set to be released tomorrow with Vikram handing over the first copy to Suriya. The event is expected to be well attended with Illayaraja and scores of film personalities.
  
  'Naan Kadavul' may be released for Pongal or by the end of January 2009. The official date of release however is yet to be confirmed.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Wed Dec 31 9:57:15 2008.

  If anyone of the officials opens his mouth, it will be great....
  
  

• From: Nerd on Wed Dec 31 10:25:17 2008.

  Villu I gather is releasing big. So it must be the 29th.
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Wed Dec 31 12:13:21 2008.

  விக்ரம் வழங்குகிறார் சூர்யாவிடம் நான் கடவுள் ஆடியோ விழா
  
  சுமார் மூன்று வருடங்கள்... நான் கடவுளை கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமாக செதுக்கிய பாலா, படத்தை முடித்து தணிக்கையையும் முடித்துவிட்டார். டிசம்பர் 30 ந் தேதி தணிக்கை அதிகாரிகளுக்கு நான் கடவுள் திரையிடப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. படம் பொங்கலுக்கு வருமா? அல்லது தள்ளிப் போகுமா? என்ற பெருங்கேள்வியோடு காத்திருக்கிறார்கள் ரசிகர்கள். நாம் கேள்விப்பட்டவரை நான் கடவுள் பொங்கலுக்கு இல்லை. ஜனவரி 29 ந் தேதிதான் திரைக்கு வரும் என்கிறார்கள்!
  
  இதற்கிடையில் புத்தாண்டு தினத்தன்று சென்னை சத்யம் காம்ப்ளக்சில் ஆடியோ வெளியீட்டு விழா நடைபெற இருக்கிறது. ஒலிப்பேழையை நடிகர் விக்ரம் வழங்க, நடிகர் சூர்யா பெற்றுக் கொள்கிறார்.
  
  கே.பாலசந்தர், பாரதிராஜா, மணிரத்னம், இளையராஜா, வாலி, பாலுமகேந்திரா, மகேந்திரன், ராம.நாராயணன் இவர்களுடன் பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவன தலைவர் சாமிநாதன் கலந்து கொள்கிறார். தான் இசையமைத்திருந்தாலும், அந்த படங்களின் ஆடியோ வெளியீட்டு விழாக்களில் கலந்து கொள்வதை விரும்பாதவர் இசைஞானி இளையராஜா. ஆனால், நான் கடவுள் படத்திற்காகவும், பாலாவுக்காகவும் இந்த விழாவிற்கு வர இசைந்திருக்கிறாராம் ராஜா.
  
  http://tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2008/december/311208c.asp
  
  

• From: Movie Cop on Wed Dec 31 18:17:46 2008.

  Wow! The excitement for the movie is really kicking in. Not to mention IR's BGM. Hope NK will be another good movie from Bala like Sethu & Pithamagan, if not better!
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Jan 1 0:44:01 2009.

  Trailer http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgqouLo1Hg
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 1 0:55:47 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  Trailer http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgqouLo1Hg

  
  
  Thanks!
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Thu Jan 1 0:59:18 2009.

  The visuals are stunning
  
  

• From: directhit on Thu Jan 1 0:59:51 2009.

  Arya looks gr8
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 2:50:23 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  Trailer http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgqouLo1Hg

  
  
  Pithamagan Sithan'uku pudhu get-up kuduththa maadhiri irukku irundhaalum kalakkalaa irukku
  
  Arya kalakki irukkaap'la National award ready
  
  Bala
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 2:57:05 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  The visuals are stunning

  
  
  because of Vasan's Visual Ventures ( j/k )
  
  Arthar A Wilson dhaaa
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 1 3:08:42 2009.

  Trailor is simply stunning!!!!
  
  BGM from 1:25 - 1:46 Wow!!!!!!
  Again from 1:55 simply mesmerizing!!!!!!
  
  Is it what we call divine world???
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 3:25:55 2009.

  Mindblasting (Russell Peters!) trailer
  -BGM is *a superlative adjective*
  -Visuals are superb.
  -Arya looks perfect for the role and his body language is awesome
  -Looks like a raw film, no commercial elements at all in this one.
  -Arya's character seems to be an extension of sithan and a more polished, much better version of Raam Jeeva
  -Are they talking in Hindi in the trailer?? I could kinda guess what the Guru is saying (nee manushan illa, dheivam etc), but can't decode what Arya says towards the end.
  
  Looking forward to the movie and I hope they release it on the 29th so that I could catch it in India
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 1 3:31:09 2009.

  Nerd,
  He says 'tu manushya nahi Kaalbhairav hai'
  You are not a man - you are a kaal bhairav - he is an entity that Lord Shiva created to destroy Daksha's yaagam in Siva puranam.
  In another scene he (the guru) says 'un dushton ka naash kar de'
  meaning finish those bad guys.
  It is going to be one freaking violent movie.
  Seems like an extension of Siththan character with 'superior consciousness' - The only thing is to see if the consciousness is made to change after contact with our normal society.
  Seems to be Pithamagan -2 to me in more respects.
  The BGM is 'engeyo poiteenga' range.
  Best trailer in recent times. I hope that the film will match up to the hype the trailer has created.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Thu Jan 1 3:37:35 2009.

  TErrific trailr and BGM is naaaaasthiiii!!!!
  
  Arya looks terrific!!!!
  
  
  Pucca Treat for new year
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 1 3:38:42 2009.

  Forget to add
  Breathtaking Arya from 1:21 - 1:36 and 1:56 - 2:00....
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Thu Jan 1 3:39:34 2009.

  Naan Kadavul has been censored and granted a U/A certificate.
  December 31, 2008
  
  Source: behindwoods
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 3:45:14 2009.

  Thanks Jai. Arya says something at 2:05 - mein something.. And his voice sounds so different and awesome
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 3:48:24 2009.

  
  
  cassette innikku release sonnainga....released?
  
  adyar odyssey pootirukku
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 3:48:54 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Thanks Jai. Arya says something at 2:05 - mein something.. And his voice sounds so different and awesome

  
  
  jai "some GOD name"
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 3:51:31 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  cassette innikku release sonnainga....released? adyar odyssey pootirukku

  
  Should hit the stores only tomorrow I think. Today is just the official launch..
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 1 3:53:21 2009.

  the flute bit for the title is haunting 'summa eerakolai anthu poara maathiri'
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 3:54:25 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: cassette innikku release sonnainga....released? adyar odyssey pootirukku Should hit the stores only tomorrow I think. Today is just the official launch..

  
  
  fine
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 1 4:03:05 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: cassette innikku release sonnainga....released? adyar odyssey pootirukku Should hit the stores only tomorrow I think. Today is just the official launch.. fine

  
  
  Yes, it will be available only tomorrow. The audio release function will be telecasted on Kalaingar TV tonight at 10-11 pm. Don't miss it guys!
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 4:03:21 2009.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Seems like an extension of Siththan character with 'superior consciousness' - The only thing is to see if the consciousness is made to change after contact with our normal society. Seems to be Pithamagan -2 to me in more respects.

  
  
  same feelings
  
  btw wts the main character name
  
  trailor simply rocks
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 4:05:34 2009.

  How many of u guys got reminded of GUNA while watching the trailor..when the saamiyar was talking to arya...u r not human..u r kal bhairav.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Thu Jan 1 4:07:44 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  How many of u guys got reminded of GUNA while watching the trailor..when the saamiyar was talking to arya...u r not human..u r kal bhairav.

  
  
  
  But guna had no relevance to that , this story has some relevance to it
  
  Kacha miya bonita
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 4:14:41 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  How many of u guys got reminded of GUNA while watching the trailor..when the saamiyar was talking to arya...u r not human..u r kal bhairav.

  
  
  Nandha'la kooda dhaan same kinda dialogue irukku remember Rajkiran's dialogues to Surya
  
  kadavul enna dhideer'nu mEla irundhu kudhippaaru, neeyum naanum kadavul, naama ellaam avadhaara purushargal ---- something similar to these lines PR can rephrase it correctly
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 4:15:24 2009.

  nono...I just asked "how many people got reminded of guna"
  
  "Making a guy believe that he is not human..."
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 4:18:21 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  nono...I just asked "how many people got reminded of guna" "Making a guy believe that he is not human..."

  
  
  Guna may be starter, and thodarndhu Nandha , Ram had similar dialogues, now Naan Kadavul
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 4:20:34 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: nono...I just asked "how many people got reminded of guna" "Making a guy believe that he is not human..." Guna may be starter, and thodarndhu Nandha , Ram had similar dialogues, now Naan Kadavul

  
  
  u dint understand...the dialogues may be placed...in nandha surya never feels himself as supernatural force...
  
  "Making a guy believe that he is not human" - not just the dialogue
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 4:22:14 2009.

  sari vittudunga vivasaayi
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 1 4:22:30 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Thanks Jai. Arya says something at 2:05 - mein something.. And his voice sounds so different and awesome jai "some GOD name"

  
  
  Jai Bhole Naath!!
  
  Kaasi vishwanadharin innoru peyar.
  Bhole nath.
  narambule electricity trailer pooravum.
  Super subbarayan stunt. What happened to Stun Shiva. I loveddd his work in Pithamagan and nandhaa
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Thu Jan 1 4:23:03 2009.

  Ok guys lets not digress. Naan Kadavul is totally a different subject.
  
  
  Heard there are only 4 songs in the movie....
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Thu Jan 1 4:23:04 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  sari vittudunga vivasaayi

  
  
  pinna enna unga veetuku vandhu sandaya poda mudiyum
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 4:27:01 2009.

  http://www.pstl.in/master_page/naan_kadavul.php
  
  Naan Kadavul is the 4th movie by director Bala. Arya and Pooja are in the lead roles. Cinematography is by Arthur Wilson and music is by maestro Illayaraja.
  
  The Album has six songs of which five is penned by Vaali and a song is written by Illayaraja. Illayaraja, Madhu Balakrishnan, Vijay Prakash, Sadhna Sargam, Madhumitha and Shreya Ghosal have sung a song each. The album has come out well and its a masterpiece of Illayaraja.
  
  
  

• From: Tamilan on Thu Jan 1 4:28:16 2009.

  Trailor and its BGM summa athiruthulla
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 1 4:29:57 2009.

  Guna is undoubtedly a trend setter.
  While Guna is a scheizophrenic, Nandha is a sociopath and what RajKiran did was to influence him and get his work done.
  Siththan is a primordial human force.
  I guess NK is all about exploring human-divinity border.
  Our ancestors made men/women with supernatural force and abilities as Gods after their demise. So what is GOD or soon to be GOD must at some point be human and operating in the very same society as everyone else. Yet our conditioning does not let us perceive the 'greatness' immediately and consciously.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Thu Jan 1 4:31:49 2009.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Guna is undoubtedly a trend setter. While Guna is a scheizophrenic, Nandha is a sociopath and what RajKiran did was to influence him and get his work done. Siththan is a primordial human force. I guess NK is all about exploring human-divinity border. Our ancestors made men/women with supernatural force and abilities as Gods after their demise. So what is GOD or soon to be GOD must at some point be human and operating in the very same society as everyone else. Yet our conditioning does not let us perceive the 'greatness' immediately and consciously.

  
  
  Good explanation.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Thu Jan 1 5:39:38 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Thanks Jai. Arya says something at 2:05 - mein something.. And his voice sounds so different and awesome jai "some GOD name"

  
  Jai BhOlE nAth - I believe Arya's character is called Rudran - ellAm sivamayam AryA's karagarak kural seems to indicate we will less of his high pitch intonation this time.
  5 tracks and Shreya Goshal - Pleasant surprises.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 5:45:42 2009.

  Thanks Jai and Complicateur. idhukku dhAn naalum therinjavunga vENumgradhu.
  Btw, looks like IR skipped the audio release function
  
  

• From: podaskie on Thu Jan 1 6:32:09 2009.

  Rave reactions at Naan Kadavul audio release!
  
  
  January 1, 2009
  
  On the first day of 2009, a long awaited event finally took place. After more than 2 years of speculation, we are now sure that Naan Kadavul will release for this Pongal. The audio release was held today at Sathyam Cineplex. Kollywood turned up in full strength to mark the occasion. On the guest list were seniors Vaali, Mani Ratnam, Balu Mahendra, LMM Murali,
  
  KRG, T. Shekharan and Ramanarayanan. Suriya and Vikram, both beneficiaries of Bala's directorial brilliance were also present apart from the cast and crew of Naan Kadavul. Maestro Ilaiyaraja was conspicuous by his absence. The true professional that he is, Ilaiyaraja was involved in the mixing work of the movie to make sure it released on time. Uttam Singh, the other composer of the movie, was present.
  
  Though Naan Kadavul is being released in 2009, it will be considered for all 2008 awards because it was censored on the penultimate day of the year. At the event, the trailer was screened and it seemed to hit everyone very hard with its raw and quite shaking content. One couldn't make out whether Arya plays a holy man or a hit man.
  
  Speaking at the event Vaali said that Bala belonged to the breed of film makers who preferred to talk less and let their movies do the talking. He added that even though the film was delayed 'Latea vandhaalum, latesta varum', borrowing a Superstar punch line. Mani Ratnam said that Bala had joined the illustrious list of film makers like Bharathiraja, Mahendran and Balu Mahendra who have made milestones in Tamil cinema. He was followed on the dais by Balu Mahendra who said that he considered Bala as his son and was glad to see him scale such heights. He added that he was finding it difficult to get the right words to describe Bala.
  
  Then it was Suriya's turn. He said that he was yet to get over the excitement of watching the trailer. He recalled the days when Vikram created a flutter with Sethu and said that watching the Naan Kadavul trailer made him feel the same way about Arya, he doubted whether he would have been able to give the same kind of dedication to a movie for a 3 year period like Arya had done. He also said that contrary to popular perception, Naan Kadavul was not delayed because Bala does not believe in making movies for seasons or festivals. He makes movies with the aim of getting it done to perfection. Later Vikram said that he was not at all surprised with what he had seen in the trailer, one has come to expect such quality from Bala. It would have been a surprise only if Bala had failed to produce such an effect.
  
  Arya said that after all the hard work, he was now feeling relieved that the movie was finally releasing. He had to endure a lot of questions and queries about the fate of the movie throughout the 3 years. He added that the quality and scale of the movie will justify the long time it has taken to get completed. Pooja was at a complete loss about what to say but somehow managed to convey that she had learnt a lot about films from Bala.
  
  Going by the typical rave reactions generated by the trailer, one can be assured that Naan Kadavul will be another special product from Bala. Watch out for the official Behindwoods Naan Kadavul music review – coming soon.
  
  

• From: podaskie on Thu Jan 1 6:32:44 2009.

  audio launch images
  
  
  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-01/index.html
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Thu Jan 1 11:10:58 2009.

  nesamaalumE kadavul dhaanga neenga
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Jan 1 11:42:55 2009.

  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-01/naan-kadavul-41.html
  
  Mahendran and current Mahendran
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 11:52:30 2009.

  Tamilan wrote:

  Trailor and its BGM summa athiruthulla

  
  
  Audio release function Kalaignar TV-la poduradha ad parthaen.. shud c it
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 12:04:10 2009.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-01/naan-kadavul-41.html Mahendran and current Mahendran

  
  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 13:34:08 2009.

  Saw Nan Kadavul audio release function in Kalaignar TV
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 1 13:43:33 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Saw Nan Kadavul audio release function in Kalaignar TV

  
  
  Yeah. Surya's words about IR's songs
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 1 13:46:43 2009.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  http://www.behindwoods.com/hindi-tamil-galleries/naan-kadavul-01/naan-kadavul-41.html Mahendran and current Mahendran

  
  
  Mahendran stage-la illa . I was looking forward to his speech actually. Is it because of BM's presence he wasn't there in the stage or left very early?
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 13:47:23 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: Saw Nan Kadavul audio release function in Kalaignar TV Yeah. Surya's words about IR's songs

  
  
  appadiye ennudaya aviprayam
  
  ethanayo padalgal kettalum rasichalum.. nammai azhavaikkum padalgal Raajavin padalgal
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 13:49:57 2009.

  They were playing the main song.. regarding lord siva.... mind blowing music...
  
  NAN KADAVUL - BALA
  
  ISAI KADAVUL - ILAYARAAJA
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Thu Jan 1 13:58:16 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  They were playing the main song.. regarding lord siva.... mind blowing music...

  
  
  It sounded perfect for the theme. This is the song I think Bala said some sAthu was impressed without understanding the lines in kAsi.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Jan 1 14:04:11 2009.

  Wov wonderful programme thanks Kalaigar TV
  
  Surya you are one of us
  
  medaiya kanpikku pothellam antha IR still vaseegarithathu
  
  I expected playing of some songs but only one song played that too in the background not with visuals
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 14:06:28 2009.

  I really wish this film to be a grand success... not just because of Ilayaraaja (Dhanam / uliyin oasai poanra padangal ellam oada vendum enru ninathadhu kooda illai).. but for Bala's effort in bringing out a different theme for thamizh industry (idhu copy adikkapattavai alla enbadhai mayya nanbargal urudhipaduthi sollavum).
  
  Nalla creator-galukku vetrigal kodukkumpodhuthan melum nalla padangal kidaikkum.
  
  PS: In sun tv's Top10 2008, Santhosh subbu has a place. Raja says few words for that, "nan ethanai padam panni irundhalum, ini ethanai pannalum... Santo Subbu.. oru special aana padam" Nee eppa padam eduthalum adhu remake than.. idhula enna periya speciality.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 1 14:07:29 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: They were playing the main song.. regarding lord siva.... mind blowing music... It sounded perfect for the theme. This is the song I think Bala said some sAthu was impressed without understanding the lines in kAsi.

  
  
  
  the song is in Sanskrit hence there would be no problem of understanding for the saathu. the song he was impressed should be 'Bitchai Paathiram'
  
  BTW Songs are divine
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Thu Jan 1 14:18:52 2009.

  dig//
  
  The way Yugi sethu started the show:
  
  indha vizha indhiya iraiaanmaikku utpattuthan nadakkum endru therivithukolgiroam
  
  //end
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Thu Jan 1 14:24:51 2009.

  kalThOnRi ManThOnra kAlaththu munThOnRiya mUththa kudi thamizhkudinna, Muthal KolaigAranum avanAthana irukkanum! Olagathula irukra ella Thappum ivanthaan muthalla Senjirukkanum - Dr.Ilaiyaraaja
  
  good quote rs
  
  btw where did he say this?
  
  

• From: Anban on Thu Jan 1 14:37:26 2009.

  I go with vikram's thoughts on the trailer.. Raja's divine music
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Thu Jan 1 14:37:40 2009.

  This film would be the first hit of the year 2009. The audio release definitely raise lot of hopes for the film's success...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Thu Jan 1 15:25:26 2009.

  Caught some parts of the trailer on Kalainjar. As expected 'Sensationalism' at its best.
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 1 15:34:24 2009.

  I was expecting you to say something about 'sensatonalism'.
  
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 1 16:07:38 2009.

  "ஒம் சிவோஹம் ஒம் சிவொஹம் ருத்ரணாமம் பஜே ஹம்" சும்மா சாமி ஆட வைக்குதுன்னா, 'ஒரு காற்றில் அலையும் சிறகு' தாலாட்டும்...கண்கள் முடி அமர்ந்து கேட்டால் ஒரு தவம் போல இருக்கும். மாலை சி.டி. வாங்கி வந்தது முதல் தொடர்ந்து ஒலித்து கொன்டிருக்கும் இவ்விரு பாடல்களும் ராஜாவை நாம் ஏன் இன்னும் ரசித்து கொன்டிருக்கிறோம் ஏன் இன்னும் அவரிடம் எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் வைத்து கொன்டிருக்கிறோம் என்பதற்க்கு கட்டியம் கூறும். அவரது இசை சினிமா என்னும் எல்லைகளுக்குட்பட்டு கதை, கதைகளம், கதை பாத்திரங்களினோடு பயனிப்பது. ஆல்பம் போல் அல்லாது ஒவ்வொரு பாடலுக்கும் கதைத்தலில் என்ன பங்கு என்பதை தெளிவாய் தீர்மானித்து கொண்டு இசை நெய்கிறார். சினிமாவை பற்றிய ஆழமான புரிதல் இல்லாமல் இங்கு இருக்கும் எல்லா இசை அமைப்பாளர்களிடம் இருந்து இதனாலேயே தனித்து நிற்க்கிறார்.
  
  2009ன் தொடக்கம் இப்படி ஆன்மாவை உலுக்கும், அமைதி படுத்தும் இசையோடு தொடங்கியதில் மகிழ்வு கொள்வோம்...சற்றெரத்தாழ 6 மாதங்களுக்கு முன் ஒரு நன்பர் மூலமாக நந்தலாலா'வில் 'ஒன்றுகொன்று துனை உள்ள இந்த உலகத்திலே அன்பு மட்டும் அனாதையா' என்னும் பாடலை ஒரு முறை கேட்க நேர்ந்தது, இன்னும் நெஞ்சை பிசைந்து கொன்டிருக்கும் அந்த பாடலின் வருகைக்கு காத்திருப்போம்...இந்த வருடம் முழுதும் ஓட்டி விட எனக்கு இந்த ஒரு சில பாடல்கள் போதும்.
  
  பி.கு. 'ஆல்பம்' பற்றிய எதிர்ப்பார்புகளில் இருப்பவர்கள் தயவு செய்து ராஜாவின் இசையை தவிர்த்து விடுங்கள்... அவரது இசை வாழ்வின் பல்வேறு பரிமானங்களை அலசி பார்ப்பது. வாழ்வின் மீதும் சினிமாவின் மீதும் தீரா காதல் உள்ளவர்கள் மட்டும் அவரது இசை கேளுங்கள்.
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 1 16:20:19 2009.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  kalThOnRi ManThOnra kAlaththu munThOnRiya mUththa kudi thamizhkudinna, Muthal KolaigAranum avanAthana irukkanum! Olagathula irukra ella Thappum ivanthaan muthalla Senjirukkanum - Dr.Ilaiyaraaja good quote rs btw where did he say this?

  
  
  Watch all the parts:
  http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxWLc9hZ0wU
  http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=E89nybrDZV0
  http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4rlmWkjBo
  http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=cnxebx5e8mI
  
  One of best speeches on J.K. and Paavalar Varadharajan.
  Amazing Memory Power, fit for the Genius
  We can also hear his take on 'Awards'
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Thu Jan 1 16:56:23 2009.

  http://sify.com/movies/fullstory.php?id=14828917
  
  

  Quote:

  Uttam Singh- "I helped Ilayaraja with some North Indian flavour to the music of the film. I have worked with Ilayaraja for the last 30 years. He is the only complete Indian composer who could bring about some change to Indian music."

  
  
  Definitely a Welcome change in Raaja.
  
  

• From: NOV on Thu Jan 1 20:34:58 2009.

  Guess I am the only one here who is not "blown-away" by the trailer.
  
  Good movies or not, our guys have a long way to go in understanding the role of trailers, much less producing a worthy one.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 21:20:56 2009.

  Amma un piLLai - 80s Raja is back. (Esp. the percussions) Vintage stuff
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Thu Jan 1 21:43:05 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Amma un piLLai - 80s Raja is back. (Esp. the percussions) Vintage stuff

  
  enga kEkkureenga ?
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 21:52:23 2009.

  Shreya is outstanding in kaNNil paarvai pOna pOdhum (Pooja is blind in the movie?). Terrific ludes - IR once again proves why he is unparalleled in violin usage. Love the percussions in the shockingly short remix(!) of mAthA un kOvilil. Om Siva Om is an experience, could have used a better singer, IMO. Ilayaraja as usual rocks in oru kAttril. Madhu Balakrishnan is good in pichaipAthiram. The string instrument (guitar?) which is used in the first pallavi is too good.
  
  kaNNil paarvai and oru kAttril have the same tune. Tough songs but Shreya and IR have done complete justice to them. Sadhana's amma un piLLai has the same tune of mAdhA un kOvilil.
  
  So, we don't have a maalai en vEdhanai or a munpaniyA or a iLangAthu veesudhE. Very very unconventional soundtrack which gives an idea of how the movie is going to be.
  
  PR - Download dhaan But there is no possibility of buying the CD here, at least for the next 2-3 weeks
  
  

• From: Nerd on Thu Jan 1 23:50:29 2009.

  Watch out! The God arrives!
  MALATHI RANGARAJAN
  IN CONVERSATION Arya has undergone a radical change in appearance and body language for Bala’s much-awaited, ‘Naan Kadavul,’ a Pongal release.
  
  Worth the Wait: Arya in Naan Kadavul
  Did you see the pictures,” he asks. “Yes! Beautifully shot but a bit scary too!” He guffaws at my reply. “Initially living with the huge moustache and beard was cumbersome. I thought I looked like a junkie! But on seeing the monitor I fell in love with myself.” Jubilation, satisfaction, expectation and a little yearning that the bearded days are over — Arya’s voice conveys all these and more when I catch up with him for everything about the at-last-to-be-released ‘Naan Kadavul.’
  
  Actually in these three years, Arya could manage to eat out only twice. The mousch was so long that it covered his lips. So even sipping a cup of tea called for elaborate preparation. “I had to keep parting the moustache with both hands, and utilise the gap to eat and drink. Quite an effort, I tell you!” He adds: “Bala’s tenacity is unbelievable. No words can explain the actual amount of toil that has gone into the making of the film. If it took nearly three years, it was because the film required such time,” Arya takes up the cudgels for his director who according to him has given him the role of a life time.
  
  One day he was called over to Bala’s office. He went expecting a small part in the big director’s project. “When he told me I was the hero I was dumbstruck,” remembers Arya. The next thing Bala did was to pull out photographs of a person in ‘Padmasasanam’ and ‘Sirasasanam’ postures. “In 30 days I want you to do these,” he said.
  
  Arya knew practically nothing about yoga. ‘Standing’ on his head would need practice, he thought and approached an instructor. “We’ll begin with simple exercises. You can do it in a year and a half,” the man told him casually. “I have to do it in 30 days for the photo shoot of my next film,” Arya replied. “That’s impossible. It could be dangerous,” was the response. Undeterred, Arya began training on his own from the next day …
  
  Paeans to Bala
  “Not many can be as patient as Bala. We have genuine physically and mentally challenged people in the film. The camera was very new to them. Bala would act out every part and as they tried to imitate him, he would shoot the scenes without their knowledge. So each shot took four to five hours. Bala would settle for nothing less than perfection,” he says.
  
  A fight sequence alone was shot for 31 days at a stretch. “Every blow I receive and deliver in the film is real,” he says. Did he hurt himself? “Yeah! Just about 40 times,” he goes off into his characteristic chortle. During those days Arya underwent physiotherapy regularly for two hours to be fighting fit (literally) for the next day’s shoot!
  
  A particular shot required him to do many things at the same time and Arya couldn’t get it right. “I’m talking about a shot, not a scene! We began at eight in the morning and at lunch we were still at it. Bala called me aside and said, ‘Don’t worry. I’ve taken even two days for a shot. If you feel it’s too much we can do it tomorrow.’ Finally it was canned at around 4.30 in the evening. Not once did he get irritable. He knew it was a difficult role and we were all slogging it out sincerely,” He turns pensive for a moment.
  
  The schedule at Kasi was a mind blowing experience for Arya, the ‘hermit.’ More than 1,000 kinds of anchorites reside there. “You even find Japanese and European recluses who’ve been living there for more than 25 years. And they all speak flawless Hindi,” says Arya.
  
  Foreign tourists who throng Kasi click pictures of the ascetics and give them a dollar or so for it! Some fall at their feet and seek their blessings. Arya wasn’t spared either. “What could I do? I would be seated on the banks of the Ganga ready for shoot and people would come and fall at my feet. ‘Bless us Swamiji,’ they would request and I would oblige. Otherwise they would get offended,” he tries to sound serious but breaks into peals of laughter.
  
  Looking back
  He was paid for the pictures they took of him! “Why just me? Pooja, who plays a beggar woman, had to walk in tatters through the market and bus stand of Theni holding out her hand for alms. At the end of the day she had actually earned Rs.21! Bala and I told her that it was the payment for her work,” he chuckles. But on a serious note, he’s all praise for his heroine. “It is one of the best roles a heroine can get.” Bhavana and Krithika had shot for the film for a few days, but soon pulled out. “It’s a very demanding role and Pooja’s done a splendid job,” Arya certifies.
  
  During the making of the film several changes in the cast and crew came about. So only three technicians were with the project throughout — Bala, lens man Arthur Wilson and art director Krishnamurthy! “Arthur didn’t even do an ad film during the entire period. ‘I don’t want to lose the mood,’ he would say.” And for every shot he would religiously transfer the first and last frame on to his laptop, and make notes about the technicalities of each, for future reference.”
  
  But Arya too didn’t do any other project in these three years, did he? “With that kind of beard I could have only played Tiruvalluvar. Sadly nobody made any film on the Tamil poet.” Pat came the repartee!
  
  “‘Naan Kadavul’ isn’t about God. In fact it doesn’t even have a shot of a temple in it. But it has plenty of comedy,” says Arya. “This is huge step in my career and I was game for the time span it involved. People tried to discourage me, but I knew what I was doing. The dividends will soon be there for all to see,” is his confident stand.
  
  “‘I can’t re-create the film in another language again,’ Bala told me. Frankly I don’t think anybody can,” smiles the actor.
  ______________________________
  WOW But Arya saying the film has plenty of comedy is sort of a turn-off..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Thu Jan 1 23:57:50 2009.

  to be honest, trailer looked very impressive but the movie could turn either way........its been 5 yrs since last Bala release i.e pithamagan, market has changed so much now - there is so much dependance on A centre for movies crossing Rs.20 cr budget - so, we need to see how well it connects to the A centre audience......but yes, music was absolutely divine and for first time(IMO), carried a north indian flavor in raaja
  
  //trailor is full of Hindi dialogues - i hope all thamizh kaavalars dont hate bala for this.....yea, ofcourse, 'deciding authorities' are themselves bala fans, i guess //
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 0:00:13 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  “‘Naan Kadavul’ isn’t about God. In fact it doesn’t even have a shot of a temple in it. But it has plenty of comedy,” says Arya.

  
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 0:01:49 2009.

  But it has plenty of comedy,” says Arya
  
  nesamaaththaanaa Surya'vayE comedy panna vachchavaru, Arya would have excelled in this part
  
  so there is big treat for good movie lovers
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:03:26 2009.

  Bala is the only director now whom we have to tie our sat belts before the movie starts expecting some magic unfold on the screen...
  
  His movies are not just story telling materials - its an experience
  
  Today in HINDU - arya has told that one shot - not a scene - one shot has taken him the whole day as bala needed perfection.pooja roamed the streets as a real begger thru out the day and collected 21 rupees
  
  This could very well be the best work of bala .
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:05:18 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  //trailor is full of Hindi dialogues - i hope all thamizh kaavalars dont hate bala for this.....yea, ofcourse, 'deciding authorities' are themselves bala fans, i guess //

  
  
  they are scenes in kasi.
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 0:05:19 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  //trailor is full of Hindi dialogues - i hope all thamizh kaavalars dont hate bala for this.....yea, ofcourse, 'deciding authorities' are themselves bala fans, i guess //

  
  Maddy, panchayat koottitteengala Apples and Oranges I say. Talking (a Sadhu, who possibly does not know Tamil) in hindi in Kaasi is entirely different from a wanna-be Peter tamil daddy in Tamil Nadu talking in English.
  
  I at least hope the trailer scenes are not meant to be funny!
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 0:08:08 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Bala is the only director now whom we have to tie our sat belts before the movie starts expecting some magic unfold on the screen... His movies are not just story telling materials - its an experience Today in HINDU - arya has told that one shot - not a scene - one shot has taken him the whole day as bala needed perfection.pooja roamed the streets as a real begger thru out the day and collected 21 rupees This could very well be the best work of bala .

  
  
  pooja'va paaththu pichchakkaari'nu nambura alavukku aalunga irukkuraangalaa as someone said news is sensatinalism
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:09:28 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: Bala is the only director now whom we have to tie our sat belts before the movie starts expecting some magic unfold on the screen... His movies are not just story telling materials - its an experience Today in HINDU - arya has told that one shot - not a scene - one shot has taken him the whole day as bala needed perfection.pooja roamed the streets as a real begger thru out the day and collected 21 rupees This could very well be the best work of bala . pooja'va paaththu pichchakkaari'nu nambura alavukku aalunga irukkuraangalaa as someone said news is sensatinalism

  do u mean pooja went with her lipsticks to beg?
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Fri Jan 2 0:12:21 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: pooja'va paaththu pichchakkaari'nu nambura alavukku aalunga irukkuraangalaa as someone said news is sensatinalism do u mean pooja went with her lipsticks to beg?

  
  Appo lipstick podaati pooja pichakari madhiri irupaa nu solla vareengala? I wd accept
  
  The trailer is terrific, especially the opening and closing shots. BGM is also superb, but why are they using WOHE flute bit for the title?
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:13:23 2009.

  thamizhvaanan wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: sarna_blr wrote: pooja'va paaththu pichchakkaari'nu nambura alavukku aalunga irukkuraangalaa as someone said news is sensatinalism do u mean pooja went with her lipsticks to beg? Appo lipstick podaati pooja pichakari madhiri irupaa nu solla vareengala? I wd accept

  
  
  adha poojavuku pidcha potavanga kittathan neenga kekanum
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 0:17:17 2009.

  Bala would have asked her to sit besides other beggars. People visiting the temples normally won't look at the faces of beggars, they would just concentrate on their plates. varisayaa sillra pOttuttE varuvaanga
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 0:23:43 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Maddy, panchayat koottitteengala Apples and Oranges I say. Talking (a Sadhu, who possibly does not know Tamil) in hindi in Kaasi is entirely different from a wanna-be Peter tamil daddy in Tamil Nadu talking in English. I at least hope the trailer scenes are not meant to be funny!

  
  
  no, i didnt try to justify GVM's absurdity here.........there has been so much talk abt thamizh etc. anyone talks english or hindi is seen as tamizh drohi and the effort to alienate non-natural thamizhs (people living in TN migrated from karnataka/AP) ........i mean, its the tamizh patriotism season - i dunno how well these hindi dialogues would gel with the thamizh patriots.....but coming in a bala film, i think they would be exempted
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:29:21 2009.

  unknowingly went to naan kadavul thread in ir forum and happened to naatamai and few otehrs post...
  
  yenda ponomnu aayiduchu
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 0:31:39 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  to be honest, trailer looked very impressive but the movie could turn either way........its been 5 yrs since last Bala release i.e pithamagan, market has changed so much now - there is so much dependance on A centre for movies crossing Rs.20 cr budget - so, we need to see how well it connects to the A centre audience......

  
  
  Today's A Centre Audience I would say look for something different from the normal masala stuffs. Definitely it is going to be a different feeling for the audience and i dont think the movie would flop anyway. Opening is going to be big. I hope they market well from here and try to release as many theaters and should not urge in releasing soon with minimum theaters. Already Villu pongal release. Prolly they could have booked many theaters. Not sure when they plan to release NK. If they plan to release on the same day that may not be nice idea. They may not get many theaters.
  
  BTW trailor was impressive. Could not get what could be the story, but we know what could be the treatment. IR as usual
  Looks like many awards in store and wonderful way the start the new year
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 0:33:19 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  do u mean pooja went with her lipsticks to beg?

  
  
  
  
  as TV said, make-up illainaa mukkaavaasi heroines apdidhaan iruppaanga
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 0:35:25 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Maddy, panchayat koottitteengala Apples and Oranges I say. Talking (a Sadhu, who possibly does not know Tamil) in hindi in Kaasi is entirely different from a wanna-be Peter tamil daddy in Tamil Nadu talking in English. I at least hope the trailer scenes are not meant to be funny! no, i didnt try to justify GVM's absurdity here.........there has been so much talk abt thamizh etc. anyone talks english or hindi is seen as tamizh drohi and the effort to alienate non-natural thamizhs (people living in TN migrated from karnataka/AP) ........i mean, its the tamizh patriotism season - i dunno how well these hindi dialogues would gel with the thamizh patriots.....but coming in a bala film, i think they would be exempted

  
  
  Bala thannoada adutha movie title "Naan Thamizhan" nnu announce pannittaa ellaam sariyaa poidum, i say BTW Seeman, Aamir ellaam Bala friends, so no worries Evvalavu thaan kooti kazhichu paarthaalum, neenga solra list romba kammithaan. BTW even VA was a big hit in chennai
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 0:38:33 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  to be honest, trailer looked very impressive but the movie could turn either way........its been 5 yrs since last Bala release i.e pithamagan, market has changed so much now - there is so much dependance on A centre for movies crossing Rs.20 cr budget - so, we need to see how well it connects to the A centre audience......but yes, music was absolutely divine and for first time(IMO), carried a north indian flavor in raaja

  
  
  it seems u r living in a dream world romba nEram ulagaththa jannal(windows) vazhiyaa paakkaadheenga
  
  ps... maddy , sollanum'nu thOnuchchu, serious'aa eduththukkaadheenga
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Fri Jan 2 0:39:45 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Bala would have asked her to sit besides other beggars. People visiting the temples normally won't look at the faces of beggars, they would just concentrate on their plates. varisayaa sillra pOttuttE varuvaanga

  
  
  Edhuku ivlo effort.. avanga sadharanama make up illama ponaley podhum, everyone will be mighty convinced!
  
  And I believe the scene was shot in some bus stand. Read it in one of your posts Nerd
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 0:41:45 2009.

  thamizhvaanan wrote:

  Nerd wrote: Bala would have asked her to sit besides other beggars. People visiting the temples normally won't look at the faces of beggars, they would just concentrate on their plates. varisayaa sillra pOttuttE varuvaanga Edhuku ivlo effort.. avanga sadharanama make up illama ponaley podhum, everyone will be mighty convinced!

  
  
  Sinthiya intha thread la silent hubber. Please Be careful
  
  

• From: littlemaster1982 on Fri Jan 2 0:42:10 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MADDY wrote: to be honest, trailer looked very impressive but the movie could turn either way........its been 5 yrs since last Bala release i.e pithamagan, market has changed so much now - there is so much dependance on A centre for movies crossing Rs.20 cr budget - so, we need to see how well it connects to the A centre audience......but yes, music was absolutely divine and for first time(IMO), carried a north indian flavor in raaja it seems u r living in a dream world romba nEram ulagaththa jannal(windows) vazhiyaa paakkaadheenga ps... maddy , sollanum'nu thOnuchchu, serious'aa eduththukkaadheenga

  
  
  Bolded parts-la thappu edhuvum irukkaradha enakku thonala
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 0:42:35 2009.

  summa oru example-kku sonnEn thamizh!! Aanaalum pooja-va over-A insult pannreenga. I like her
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 0:48:08 2009.

  pooja is very pretty
  
  esp in yesterdays function she looked so good.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 0:53:40 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  summa oru example-kku sonnEn thamizh!! Aanaalum pooja-va over-A insult pannreenga. I like her

  
  
  P1: appa shreya-voda gadhi
  
  P2: virumbina vaazhkai kedaikkulana, kedaichha vaazhkai-ya virumbi ethhukanum
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 0:53:48 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  pooja is very pretty

  
  
  
  

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  thamizhvaanan wrote: Vivasaayi wrote: sarna_blr wrote: pooja'va paaththu pichchakkaari'nu nambura alavukku aalunga irukkuraangalaa as someone said news is sensatinalism do u mean pooja went with her lipsticks to beg? Appo lipstick podaati pooja pichakari madhiri irupaa nu solla vareengala? I wd accept adha poojavuku pidcha potavanga kittathan neenga kekanum

  
  
  
  Avanaee nee
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Fri Jan 2 0:54:29 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  thamizhvaanan wrote: Nerd wrote: Bala would have asked her to sit besides other beggars. People visiting the temples normally won't look at the faces of beggars, they would just concentrate on their plates. varisayaa sillra pOttuttE varuvaanga Edhuku ivlo effort.. avanga sadharanama make up illama ponaley podhum, everyone will be mighty convinced! Sinthiya intha thread la silent hubber. Please Be careful

  
  
  naan saadha pathi edhum sollaleye
  
  Nerd.. neraya lateral thinking puzzles solve panreenga pola
  
  

• From: thamizhvaanan on Fri Jan 2 0:55:21 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  pooja is very pretty esp in yesterdays function she looked so good.

  
  
  yes, Arya kaiya katti pidichikitu amsama irundhanga la?
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Fri Jan 2 0:58:20 2009.

  NOV wrote:

  Guess I am the only one here who is not "blown-away" by the trailer. Good movies or not, our guys have a long way to go in understanding the role of trailers, much less producing a worthy one.

  
  
  Ungalukku Sooranam mattum dhaan pidikkum pola irukku.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 1:19:48 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  His movies are not just story telling materials - its an experience

  
  
  Exactly!
  
  பாலா படங்கள் (சில ஹாலிவுட் படங்கள் போல்) உணர்வு பூர்வமானது. அதை அனுபவிக்க முடிந்தால் நல்ல அனுபவம் கிடைக்கும்
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 1:21:24 2009.

  littlemaster1982 wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: MADDY wrote: to be honest, trailer looked very impressive but the movie could turn either way........its been 5 yrs since last Bala release i.e pithamagan, market has changed so much now - there is so much dependance on A centre for movies crossing Rs.20 cr budget - so, we need to see how well it connects to the A centre audience......but yes, music was absolutely divine and for first time(IMO), carried a north indian flavor in raaja it seems u r living in a dream world romba nEram ulagaththa jannal(windows) vazhiyaa paakkaadheenga ps... maddy , sollanum'nu thOnuchchu, serious'aa eduththukkaadheenga Bolded parts-la thappu edhuvum irukkaradha enakku thonala

  
  
  yeah, ungalukku thOnaadhu
  
  ____________________________________
  
  BTW, my expectations are gearing up ennada idhu konja naatkalukku munnaala Bala padam flop aaganum'nu sonnavan, innikku ipdi pEsuraanu yosikkureengalaa ? kaalangal maarum, koodavE kaatchigalum maarum , sila pala unmaigalai therindhapiragu dhaan indha maatram Always I am an Ajith fan and now expecting this Bala film to break all the previous records of Tamilfilms and become a landmark movie in thamizh cine Industry
  
  really Hardwork pays
  
  Bala kOdu pOttaaru, ippO pala ilaya thalaimurai iykkunargal ( like Ameer, Sasi, Sasikumar etc ) road'E pOttuttaanga
  Bala ippa neenga road pottirukkeenga, naalaikku namma aalunga Highways'E pOduvaanga
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 1:23:18 2009.

  Sanjeevi wrote:

  பாலா படங்கள் (சில ஹாலிவுட் படங்கள் போல்) உணர்வு பூர்வமானது. அதை அனுபவிக்க முடிந்தால் நல்ல அனுபவம் கிடைக்கும்

  
  
  idhu pugazhipOl theriyavillai
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 1:28:10 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  yeah, ungalukku thOnaadhu

  
  
  //saravanan, i think its enuf - dont pass comments on us without knowing us personally......ask any damn distributor and do a trending of last 10 hits in tamil with A centre contribution in it......//
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 1:31:34 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  sarna_blr wrote: yeah, ungalukku thOnaadhu //saravanan, i think its enuf - dont pass comments on us without knowing us personally......ask any damn distributor and do a trending of last 10 hits in tamil with A centre contribution in it......//

  
  
  cool maddy sorry if I hurted u
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 1:35:30 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Sanjeevi wrote: பாலா படங்கள் (சில ஹாலிவுட் படங்கள் போல்) உணர்வு பூர்வமானது. அதை அனுபவிக்க முடிந்தால் நல்ல அனுபவம் கிடைக்கும் idhu pugazhipOl theriyavillai

  
  
  kavanikka 'சில'
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 2:58:23 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  pooja is very pretty esp in yesterdays function she looked so good.

  
  
  yes.. I too like her, even from 'Jay Jay' days
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 2:59:00 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  But Arya saying the film has plenty of comedy is sort of a turn-off..[/font][/tscii]

  
  Bala film la eppavume trademark unique humor irukkum illaingala? I mean padathoda otti irukkum....
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:02:49 2009.

  Any idea on release dates
  
  

• From: Hulkster on Fri Jan 2 3:04:40 2009.

  Either pongal or end of january depending on number of cinemas taken by villu.
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Jan 2 3:06:10 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Any idea on release dates

  
  
  Pongal release!!
  
  

• From: vasanth2006 on Fri Jan 2 3:07:09 2009.

  For me, this album(NK) is another devotinal album from Maestro without commerical elements....I like it....
  
  Madha un kovilil tune adds beauty to this album.....
  
  I am happy that IR uses his recent fav singers(shreya, sadhana and madhumitha) who have high regards for him......
  
  Someone mentioned that KJS has sung one song in this album. I think they might have heared Madhu balakrishnan's voice....
  
  Overall it is kind of divine (without commerical elements)....
  
  After seeing the trailor, I am eagerly looking forward to this movie......
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:08:40 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Any idea on release dates

  
  
  ennikku release pannaa enna kurippitta date'la padaththa release pannaa, skip pannuveengalaa
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 3:08:46 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Bala film la eppavume trademark unique humor irukkum illaingala? I mean padathoda otti irukkum....

  all his prev movies had superb sequences
  read somewhere release is Jan 29
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:09:28 2009.

  Cinemarasigan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!!

  
  
  
  Hope they get good theaters and a big release. If they could not get such good theaters they should wait for another 2 weeks before hurrying up
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 3:12:39 2009.

  Cinemarasigan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!!

  
  
  i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:14:00 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Nerd wrote: But Arya saying the film has plenty of comedy is sort of a turn-off..[/font][/tscii] Bala film la eppavume trademark unique humor irukkum illaingala? I mean padathoda otti irukkum....

  
  
  Exactly. Siththan in Pithamagan. The director doesn't play with the character, but the interaction with other characters. I watched it FDFS in T.V.Malai, the theater (VBC I think) audience were quite vocal with the laughs (derisive and sympathetic).
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:14:53 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times

  
  
  staat meesic
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:17:07 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Nerd wrote: But Arya saying the film has plenty of comedy is sort of a turn-off..[/font][/tscii] Bala film la eppavume trademark unique humor irukkum illaingala? I mean padathoda otti irukkum.... Exactly. Siththan in Pithamagan. The director doesn't play with the character, but the interaction with other characters. I watched it FDFS in T.V.Malai, the theater (VBC I think) audience were quite vocal with the laughs (derisive and sympathetic).

  
  
  I thought of saying it
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:17:46 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times staat meesic

  
  
  Ippa neenga oru ponna love panreenganna, millionaire aa irukanumnu paarthu love panna poarathilla.. but love panra ponnu millionaire aa irunthaa vaenaamnaa solla poareenga
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 3:18:44 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  staat meesic

  
  
  no no, i remember bala saying this and people appreciating his stand.........i thot he follows this as a policy - not to release his movie during deepavali or pongal..........just wanted to know the reason for deviation from this stand
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 3:20:11 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  no no, i remember bala saying this and people appreciating his stand.........i thot he follows this as a policy - not to release his movie during deepavali or pongal..........just wanted to know the reason for deviation from this stand

  
  
  

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Ippa neenga oru ponna love panreenganna, millionaire aa irukanumnu paarthu love panna poarathilla.. but love panra ponnu millionaire aa irunthaa vaenaamnaa solla poareenga

  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:20:22 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times

  
  
  
  
  but 'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:23:54 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times but 'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right?

  
  
  Nandha and Pithamgan, both were diwali release
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:24:17 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right?

  
  
  yes. Along with Aalavanthaan
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 3:25:19 2009.

  Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 3:25:34 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  no no, i remember bala saying this and people appreciating his stand.........i thot he follows this as a policy - not to release his movie during deepavali or pongal..........just wanted to know the reason for deviation from this stand

  
  
  

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Ippa neenga oru ponna love panreenganna, millionaire aa irukanumnu paarthu love panna poarathilla.. but love panra ponnu millionaire aa irunthaa vaenaamnaa solla poareenga

  
  
  

  HonestRaj wrote:

  but 'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right?

  
  
  

  MADDY wrote:

  infact all of his films(except sethu) have released in festival times so wats the need for making a pompous non-existent claims and people appreciating it

  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:27:16 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: 'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right? yes. Along with Aalavanthaan

  
  
  and I remember a interview, wr Bala was mentioning that he was a big fan of Kamalji and he got permission from kamalji to name his movie as NANDHA, because NANDHU was a charactor name in Alavandhaan
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 3:27:41 2009.

  //dig
  
  MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga?
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:30:37 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! i thought bala's films were not karumbu to be released in pongal or pattassu to be released in diwali .......i mean isnt he opposed to his movies releasing during festival times but 'Nandha' is a Diwali release, right?

  
  
  Could have been. I watched it around November period in Bala Abirami (Enna porutham), it was the time Abhirami mega mall was under construction. The audience were enjoying Karunas track. A section of the audience (I think Loyola students) made funny noises and badly timed mimicking on sentimental scenes. I've been to different theaters in TN, and one could safely say this has become characteristic of the Chennai audience. Not that I don't enjoy it when it is a JKR's Nayagan or TR's magnum opus Veerasaamy.
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 3:32:34 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  A section of the audience (I think Loyola students) made funny noises and badly timed mimicking on sentimental scenes. I've been to different theaters in TN, and one could safely say this has become characteristic of the Chennai audience.

  naan idhai vanmayaaga kandikkiren we are all dejent ppl
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 2 3:34:18 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  we

  adadA idhu ivvaLO naaL theriyAma pOchchE !
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:34:31 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals.

  
  
  yes.. eppo varum eppo varum-nu ellorum ketka ketka kovathula solli irupparu
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:35:22 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: A section of the audience (I think Loyola students) made funny noises and badly timed mimicking on sentimental scenes. I've been to different theaters in TN, and one could safely say this has become characteristic of the Chennai audience. naan idhai vanmayaaga kandikkiren we are all dejent ppl

  
  
  vaai koduthu maatikka paakureenga, athoada niraya paera maati vida paakureenga
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:35:33 2009.

  <digr>
  Adhu enna Kamalji. Oh oh indhi...Unless it is like a nickname in wake of calling Premgi as Premji, I suggest Kamal saar in proper Madras style. What say you.
  </digr>
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 3:37:40 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  vaai koduthu maatikka paakureenga, athoada niraya paera maati vida paakureenga

  indha thread pala pages poga Maddy madhiri sevai seyyalamenu dhaan
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:37:44 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: A section of the audience (I think Loyola students) made funny noises and badly timed mimicking on sentimental scenes. I've been to different theaters in TN, and one could safely say this has become characteristic of the Chennai audience. naan idhai vanmayaaga kandikkiren we are all dejent ppl

  
  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:37:45 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga?

  
  
  first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 3:38:15 2009.

  Maddy,
  OK, conceded Thappu thaen! theriyama soltaaru...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 3:38:36 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals. yes.. eppo varum eppo varum-nu ellorum ketka ketka kovathula solli irupparu

  
  
  thappu thappa purinjukkittA athukku avarA poRuppu. He never said he won't release his movies on festival days.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:39:37 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals.

  
  
  
  
  Maddy,
  There are circumstances and context to get the intended meaning one try to say.
  
  Even a simple word like "nallarikuyae" can be understood in different ways based on the situation and the way it has been told.
  
  Ithukaaga naama pages increase panna vaendaamae
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:40:29 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function

  
  Enna sonnaaru?
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:40:40 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  <digr> Adhu enna Kamalji. Oh oh indhi...Unless it is like a nickname in wake of calling Premgi as Premji, I suggest Kamal saar in proper Madras style. What say you. </digr>

  
  
  I could see "Mayawathi jee" in posters ... any NI politician is addressed with "jee" by their thondars in TN
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 3:41:03 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  <digr> Adhu enna Kamalji. Oh oh indhi...Unless it is like a nickname in wake of calling Premgi as Premji, I suggest Kamal saar in proper Madras style. What say you. </digr>

  
  
  digr//
  
  Hyderabad slang, local slang enakku thoththikkichchu
  
  saar'nu edhukku english vaarththai'nu yaaraavudhu sandaikku vandhaa
  
  // end
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 3:41:46 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function

  
  
  If MADDY has watched the program, I assume he won't see another Surya movie in his life
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 3:41:59 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals. Maddy, There are circumstances and context to get the intended meaning one try to say.

  
  
  saapteengala sithappu
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 3:42:59 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function If MADDY has watched the program, I assume he won't see another Surya movie in his life

  
  
  
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:43:02 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function Enna sonnaaru?

  
  
  surya: (video wud be available in yu tube.. mudinja varai reproduce panraen)
  
  nan english pattellam ketkradhillai.. eppavum IR sir paattuthan.. ethanayo paattu kettalum rasichu paadi aadinalum.. ennoda manasula azhavekkiradhu IR sir paattuthan
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:43:36 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: MrJudge wrote: Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals. Maddy, There are circumstances and context to get the intended meaning one try to say. saapteengala sithappu

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 3:44:05 2009.

  Quote:

  nan english pattellam ketkradhillai.. eppavum IR sir paattuthan.. ethanayo paattu kettalum rasichu paadi aadinalum.. ennoda manasula azhavekkiradhu IR sir paattuthan

  
  
  Unmaithana
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 2 3:44:35 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  eppo varum eppo varum-nu ellorum ketka ketka kovathula solli irupparu

  
  indha mAdhiri kELvigalukkunnE oru tone vERa irukku. "enna sir... 'nAn kadavuL' padam, indha pongalukku release AyidumA? illa..." appadi 'nnu izhukkaNum.
  
  Bala,
  LOL!
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 3:45:06 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Quote: nan english pattellam ketkradhillai.. eppavum IR sir paattuthan.. ethanayo paattu kettalum rasichu paadi aadinalum.. ennoda manasula azhavekkiradhu IR sir paattuthan Unmaithana

  sonnadhaa panradhaa
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:45:08 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Quote: nan english pattellam ketkradhillai.. eppavum IR sir paattuthan.. ethanayo paattu kettalum rasichu paadi aadinalum.. ennoda manasula azhavekkiradhu IR sir paattuthan Unmaithana

  
  
  Nice to know he is a big fan IR along with Kamal MGR fan aannu therila
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:46:18 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: MrJudge wrote: Bala said he can't plan his movies by fixing the release date first.... meaning his movies are not pattAsu or karumbu to dispose them on the fixed dates at regular intervals. Maddy, There are circumstances and context to get the intended meaning one try to say. saapteengala sithappu

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 3:48:31 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  <digr> Adhu enna Kamalji. Oh oh indhi...Unless it is like a nickname in wake of calling Premgi as Premji, I suggest Kamal saar in proper Madras style. What say you. </digr>

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 3:48:35 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function Enna sonnaaru?

  
  
  Surya said "I didn't/don't listen to western songs, all I listen to are IR songs. We can dance...enjoy...to any music now, but IR's songs are always special. (he touched his heart and said) they are soul-stirring, they are here always. His songs taught me how to live my life."
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 3:49:11 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  HonestRaj wrote: MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function If MADDY has watched the program, I assume he won't see another Surya movie in his life

  
  
  ippadiye pona, thamizh padam edhayum paakka mudiyaadhu pola straight indhi dhaan inimel
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 3:49:49 2009.

  surya, appadithan sonnaru (ennoda maximum possible memory power vechu appadiye type panni irukkaen ).. youtube-la check pannikanga
  
  // but I can't give the link now (I am using a dial-up connection
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 3:51:11 2009.

  I also watched the program.He said something like ethanayo peru paatu ketkalam,padalam,aadalam...aanaa manasula nikaradhu raja sar paatuthan
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:51:38 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: HonestRaj wrote: MrJudge wrote: //dig MADDY, Surya paththi ippa enna nenaikkareenga? first puriyalai, as Maddy is Aamir Khan katchi .. now I remembered Surya's speech in the function Enna sonnaaru? surya: (video wud be available in yu tube.. mudinja varai reproduce panraen) nan english pattellam ketkradhillai.. eppavum IR sir paattuthan.. ethanayo paattu kettalum rasichu paadi aadinalum.. ennoda manasula azhavekkiradhu IR sir paattuthan

  
  
  HR.
  
  Surya is a bit of a jalra with trademark hyperboles. But, This one seems honest to me.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 3:54:31 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  I also watched the program.He said something like ethanayo peru paatu ketkalam,padalam,aadalam...aanaa manasula nikaradhu raja sar paatuthan

  
  
  idhu sillunu oru kadhal padam munnadiye solli irukkalaam.........moonu tharava andha mokkai-ya paathu rs.500 loss.......oru full vandhirukkume - full poche
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 3:58:58 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: I also watched the program.He said something like ethanayo peru paatu ketkalam,padalam,aadalam...aanaa manasula nikaradhu raja sar paatuthan idhu sillunu oru kadhal padam munnadiye solli irukkalaam.........moonu tharava andha mokkai-ya paathu rs.500 loss.......oru full vandhirukkume - full poche

  
  
  
  
  BTW padam release appa nallaa irukkunnu sonna maathiri nyaabagam oh Surya interview ippa thaanae koduthaar
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 3:59:25 2009.

  Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi,
  
  Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:01:32 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...

  
  
  oh yeah....
  
  but the difference would be praising ARR would come from brain, but IR praising came from heart
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 2 4:01:36 2009.

  Maddy,
  nInga pAththuttE irunga, thidIr'nu oru nAL Edho nostalgic rush'la "Burmanda-Kishoreda mAdhiri varumA!" 'nnu Aamir Khan'o, Ashutosh Gowariker'o sollap pORAnga...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 4:02:00 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...

  
  
  but i dont think he would ever say "arr paatuthan manasula nikara paatu"
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 4:02:05 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  idhu sillunu oru kadhal padam munnadiye solli irukkalaam.........moonu tharava andha mokkai-ya paathu rs.500 loss.......oru full vandhirukkume - full poche

  
  
  
  
  moonu thadavaiyA? unga kAl enga irukku. Surya kooda avvaLavu
  thadavai pAtthirikka mAttAru. bakthi irukkalAm Ana ungaLukku irukkarathu aLavu kadantha bakthi, bin laden-kku irukkiRa mAthiri.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Jan 2 4:02:09 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...

  
  Of course, SOK mAthiri oru album summA varumA sukumAri....
  
  

• From: directhit on Fri Jan 2 4:02:19 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  ARR is like to score music for Surya's next venture Aadhavan!!! Directed by KSR Is this confirmed? Any updates?

  
  Maddy - another 500 and another full
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 4:04:38 2009.

  thilak4life wrote:

  Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...

  
  Suriya had virtually said the same thing even during Pithamagan release (he quoted the lyrics of 'Vizhiyil vizhundhu...' to describe IR's music). Jaalra podradha industry la thavirkkardhu kashtam, however i think and HOPE Suriya means it here and when he talks about Aandavar
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:06:08 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  BTW padam release appa nallaa irukkunnu sonna maathiri nyaabagam oh Surya interview ippa thaanae koduthaar

  
  
  ofcourse, i liked it - but wud have watched it only once in big screen..........thalaivar vandhu J.K.Ritheesh, Sam Anderson padathukku meesic pottalum, adhayum theatre-la paarpom but yea not more than once
  
  

  Quote:

  Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru...

  
  
  i still have the video where he sat with all modesty in front of vaali and rahman for vijaytv show.......avalavu yen, during his marriage time he got rahman compose a marriage song in SOK i sometimes feel cornered & helpless abt it
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:08:03 2009.

  directhit wrote:

  viraajan wrote: ARR is like to score music for Surya's next venture Aadhavan!!! Directed by KSR Is this confirmed? Any updates? Maddy - another 500 and another full

  
  
  KSR padam aache - avar madhiri sila nalla ullangal dhaan irukku indha thamizh industry-la engalakku
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 2 4:08:13 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  thilak4life wrote: Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru... Of course, SOK mAthiri oru album summA varumA sukumAri....

  
  LOL! The ensuing line would be the killer for this situation. Imagine Rahman saying this line to Surya:
  "thirinyum uzhudA somARi!"
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:08:33 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  ofcourse, i liked it - but wud have watched it only once in big screen..........thalaivar vandhu J.K.Ritheesh, Sam Anderson padathukku meesic pottalum, adhayum theatre-la paarpom but yea not more than once

  
  
  BTW i sincerly hope JKR, SAM or the producers of those actors were not friends of ARR
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:10:21 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  KSR padam aache - avar madhiri sila nalla ullangal dhaan irukku indha thamizh industry-la engalakku

  
  neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 4:13:55 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  i still have the video where he sat with all modesty in front of vaali and rahman for vijaytv show.......

  
  adhula enna thappu Maddy?
  
  P.S: I share similar sentiments and strong opinions (for obvious reasons) but i think there are some differences...
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:14:23 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru

  
  
  adhaan thenali audio release function-la sonnaare
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 4:15:03 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru adhaan thenali audio release function-la sonnaare

  
  
  enna sonnaru
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:16:54 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru adhaan thenali audio release function-la sonnaare

  
  
  what he said BTW naama topic la irunthu romba deviatae panromo
  
  Any idea who is releasing now? Previously Zee Productions right
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 4:18:50 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  complicateur wrote: thilak4life wrote: Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru... Of course, SOK mAthiri oru album summA varumA sukumAri.... LOL! The ensuing line would be the killer for this situation. Imagine Rahman saying this line to Surya: "thirinyum uzhudA somARi!"

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:20:11 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Thirumaran wrote: neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru adhaan thenali audio release function-la sonnaare enna sonnaru

  
  
  question: neenga kamal padathukku rahman-a poi pottuirukeenga, kamal-kku raaja dhaane pudikkum
  
  KSR: avarukku pudichha podhuma, makkalakku pudikka vendaama
  
  KSR,Shankar ellam ethhana varusam aanalum enga saadhikaaranga ok, let me catch some rest
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 4:23:17 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: MADDY wrote: Thirumaran wrote: neenga vaenumnaa paarunga, eppavaathu KSR manasukulla IR irukiratha ulari kottathaan poaraaru adhaan thenali audio release function-la sonnaare enna sonnaru question: neenga kamal padathukku rahman-a poi pottuirukeenga, kamal-kku raaja dhaane pudikkum KSR: avarukku pudichha podhuma, makkalakku pudikka vendaama

  
  
  KSR padathukku ilayaraja thevaye illaingrEn...Deva podhum!
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:24:46 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  question: neenga kamal padathukku rahman-a poi pottuirukeenga, kamal-kku raaja dhaane pudikkum KSR: avarukku pudichha podhuma, makkalakku pudikka vendaama KSR,Shankar ellam ethhana varusam aanalum enga saadhikaaranga ok, let me catch some rest

  
  
  
  
  Sari, Sari... IR aava romba pidicha KH haasana ivanag rendu paerukkum romba pidikkum ngrathaala mannichu vittuduroam
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 2 4:24:55 2009.

  Maddy,
  But seriously, why should there be a binary state imposed on all these people? Would it not be entirely understandable if, say, Surya loves both Raaja's and Rahman's music and has immense respect for both of them alike?
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:26:37 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Maddy, But seriously, why should there be a binary state imposed on all these people? Would it not be entirely understandable if, say, Surya loves both Raaja's and Rahman's music and has immense respect for both of them alike?

  
  
  Intha maathiri discussion hub la varathu ithu 18th time
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 4:28:07 2009.

  CR,
  
  When Mani, Madhavan or Surya praise Kamal, they should really mean it, because they could so easily pander to the "other" side. Perhaps they felt such sycophancy wouldn't make a difference. If you know what I mean.
  
  Regarding IR, I think he is still the stronghold and holds a great deal of prestige in the industry, illa? It'd be very surprising if people hold a lesser opinion of his work (considering the kind of person he is, to work with. One understands this unique position in the industry is down to his contribution over the years, and not PR or publicity. )
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 2 4:28:57 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  equanimus wrote: Maddy, But seriously, why should there be a binary state imposed on all these people? Would it not be entirely understandable if, say, Surya loves both Raaja's and Rahman's music and has immense respect for both of them alike? Intha maathiri discussion hub la varathu ithu 18th time

  
  
  ungaLukku avvaLavu dhaan eNNa theriyumA ?
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 4:30:20 2009.

  Maddy,
  Is A.R Rahman the favorite musician of Danny Boyle?
  
  Upd: Replace Danny Boyle with any other director, as deemed fit. "prachanai ennamo onnu dhaan"
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:30:39 2009.

  Prabhu Ram wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: equanimus wrote: Maddy, But seriously, why should there be a binary state imposed on all these people? Would it not be entirely understandable if, say, Surya loves both Raaja's and Rahman's music and has immense respect for both of them alike? Intha maathiri discussion hub la varathu ithu 18th time ungaLukku avvaLavu dhaan eNNa theriyumA ?

  
  
  enakku ungala vida vayasu kammi hub la kooda
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 4:31:01 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Maddy, Is A.R Rahman the favorite musician of Danny Boyle?

  
  
  nyaayamaana kelvi...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 4:31:29 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Maddy, Is A.R Rahman the favorite musician of Danny Boyle?

  
  
  ethana thadava padai eduthu thoathu poanaalum oaya maateengalae
  
  

• From: Prabhu Ram on Fri Jan 2 4:32:49 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Maddy, Is A.R Rahman the favorite musician of Danny Boyle?

  
  
  Amaam amaam.....uRuppinAr card edukkaatti vaippA kadaichirukkAdhulle
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 4:33:43 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Maddy, Is A.R Rahman the favorite musician of Danny Boyle?

  
  
  Favorite Indian musician, adhuvE podhum-nu solvaru namba Maddy..
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:35:03 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  Would it not be entirely understandable if, say, Surya loves both Raaja's and Rahman's music and has immense respect for both of them alike?

  
  
  i dont trust them - simple....its just me - lot of ARR fans love surya, GVM, shreya gosal etc etc
  
  ok, let me contribute to the topic - NK is sure to release on jan29 or later bcos villu is releasing big and theatres wont be available for jan14th.......
  
  

• From: MADDY on Fri Jan 2 4:38:13 2009.

  PR, Equa, TFlife, bala & others - i just said, its just me who dont like such guys - other ARR fans love them...........
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Jan 2 4:41:56 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  complicateur wrote: thilak4life wrote: Thanks Judge, and Vivasaayi, Maddy, Rahman padam music release vandha, Surya avara praise pannuvaaru... Of course, SOK mAthiri oru album summA varumA sukumAri.... LOL! The ensuing line would be the killer for this situation. Imagine Rahman saying this line to Surya: "thirinyum uzhudA somARi!"

  
  
  
  

• From: equanimus on Fri Jan 2 5:01:11 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  PR, Equa, TFlife, bala & others - i just said, its just me who dont like such guys - other ARR fans love them...........

  
  Ok, Maddy. summA dhAn kEttEn. (By the way, Gautham enna paNNAr?)
  
  So, is the release date of nAn kadavuL confirmed? 29th?
  
  Saw the trailer. Actually, it looks quite a bit like a thematic sequel to 'pithAmagan'. I guess Bala has further explored the theme of alienation with this film. PR's concern about intense stuff also comes to mind. pArppOm.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Fri Jan 2 5:04:10 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  MADDY wrote: PR, Equa, TFlife, bala & others - i just said, its just me who dont like such guys - other ARR fans love them........... Ok, Maddy. summA dhAn kEttEn. (By the way, Gautham enna paNNAr?) .

  
  
  he too a IR fan. Said by him in Vijay TV, VA show
  
  

• From: Cinemarasigan on Fri Jan 2 5:17:55 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Cinemarasigan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: Any idea on release dates Pongal release!! Hope they get good theaters and a big release. If they could not get such good theaters they should wait for another 2 weeks before hurrying up

  
  
  No big competition, even the one which may be a competition to this is of different genre.. Moreover, Pongal is on a Wednesday, the movie would make use of the first 5 days to get the maximum returns.. Postponing the release may not be a good idea..
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Fri Jan 2 6:55:24 2009.

  download links please
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Fri Jan 2 6:56:59 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  download links please

  
  
  piracy is crime
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Jan 2 6:57:51 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  SoftSword wrote: download links please piracy is crime

  
  
  annikki en kitta, nakka mukka song d/l panna linku ketteenga
  
  

• From: viraajan on Fri Jan 2 6:59:56 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  download links please

  
  
  check ur pm
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Fri Jan 2 7:09:35 2009.

  thanks viraajan....
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 10:31:25 2009.

  Naan kooda yEdhO bayangara discussion on trailer/songs-nu nenechu padichA
  
  Btw softsword, indha maadhiri oru avatar-a Friday morning pAthA kayyellAm otharudhu
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 10:47:02 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Nerd wrote: But Arya saying the film has plenty of comedy is sort of a turn-off..[/font][/tscii] Bala film la eppavume trademark unique humor irukkum illaingala? I mean padathoda otti irukkum....

  
  Actually nandha-la reNdu scenes(his intro in the court, him stealing in the judge house) for karunAs sambandhamE illAma irukkumE. Pithamagan-surya comedy kooda character establishment-nu sollalAm..
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 10:58:36 2009.

  I liked pithamagan trailer music better...esp sithan sitting with the urumi soundu..
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 10:59:56 2009.

  Dont tell me its yet another dark picture featuring mentally challenged person
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 2 11:08:36 2009.

  Shatkhi!
  This time we are not going to see one mentally challenged person, but a whole group of them.
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 11:13:20 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Naan kooda yEdhO bayangara discussion on trailer/songs-nu nenechu padichA

  
  
  athey than
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 11:15:15 2009.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Shatkhi! This time we are not going to see one mentally challenged person, but a whole group of them.

  
  
  naan varla
  
  not my cuppa tea
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 11:18:09 2009.

  jaiganes wrote:

  Shatkhi! This time we are not going to see one mentally challenged person, but a whole group of them.

  
  
  
  
  @ Sakthiprabha
  
  In bala words, "விளிம்பு நிலை மனிதர்களை இந்த படத்தில் கட்டியிருக்கிறேன்" and I say love them
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Fri Jan 2 11:20:08 2009.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  jaiganes wrote: Shatkhi! This time we are not going to see one mentally challenged person, but a whole group of them. naan varla not my cuppa tea

  
  
  I understand.
  
  http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rjo0727l.jpg
  
  
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 11:20:48 2009.

  sirikatheenga.
  
  ... may be if the climax isn't too sulky I might watch it
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Fri Jan 2 11:21:23 2009.

  thilak
  
  sp..epdiyum thirutu vcdla paathutu review eludhuveenga
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 11:24:27 2009.

  vicky,
  
  
  
  thilak,
  
  
  
  Why do all these directors think presenting a dark pessimistic gloomy movies, acknowledges them with 2 horns
  
  
  
  sorry for these dign. I am outta this thread
  
  I shall be back, when I watch in thiruttu vcd, or even better when some channel telecasts the same...
  
  "indhiya tholaikaatchi VARALAATRIL muthalllll muraiyaaga...."
  
  bye for now.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Fri Jan 2 11:25:46 2009.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  sirikatheenga. ... may be if the climax isn't too sulky I might watch it

  
  
  ivaru andha madhiri ellam panna mattaru..
  
  Simra-nukke Hip theriyama dance vecha aalu
  
  enna.. adidhadi.. raththam adhigama irukkalam
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 11:41:44 2009.

  
  இந்த விழாவுக்காவது வந்துவிடுவார் என்று எதிர்பார்க்கப்பட்ட இசைஞானி இளையராஜா, வழக்கம்போல் அல்வா கொடுக்க, அவரது இசை மட்டும் பொங்கலின் ருசியோடு வெளியிடப்பட்டது. படம்- நான் கடவுள். இடம்-சத்யம் திரையரங்கம்.
  
  தமிழ்சினிமாவின் ஜாம்பவான்களான மணிரத்னம், பாலுமகேந்திரா, வாலி, விக்ரம், சூர்யா, உள்ளிட்ட பல்வேறு விவிஐபிகள் விழா மேடையை அலங்கரிக்க, மேடைக்கு கீழேயே அமர்ந்திருந்தார் படத்தின் இயக்குனர் பாலா. எத்தனையோ பேர் அழைத்தும் மேடைக்கு வராதவரை, நன்றி சொல்லும் நேரத்தில் வலுக்கட்டாயமாக இழுத்து வந்து மேடையேற்றினார்கள் விக்ரமும், சூர்யாவும்.
  
  “நான் பாலாவோட ரசிகனா இங்கே வந்திருக்கேன்” என்று மணிரத்னம் கூறியதற்கு Suryaதியேட்டரில் செம அப்ளாஸ். சூர்யாவின் பேச்சில் அளவு கடந்த குருபக்தி. “பாலா அண்ணன் படத்திலே நடிக்கலைன்னா நான் இந்தளவுக்கு வளர்ந்திருப்பேனா தெரியாது. இந்த படம் பொங்கலுக்கு வரலே, தீபாவளிக்கு வரலேன்னு பரவலா பேசுறாங்க. பொங்கல், தீபாவளிக்கு வருவதற்கு இது ஒன்னும் கரும்போ, பட்டாசோ இல்லை. பாலா அண்ணன் எப்போ கொண்டு வராரோ அப்போதான்! சேதுவுக்கு பிறகு விக்ரம் மாதிரி வித்தியாசமாக நடிக்கனும்னு அவரை பார்த்து ஓடிட்டு இருந்தேன். இப்போது போட்டிக்கு இன்னொரு ஆள் வந்தாச்சு. இன்னும் வேகமா ஒடனும். நேத்து என்னை பார்க்க என் வீட்டிற்கு வந்திருந்தார் ஆர்யா. இப்போ டிரெய்லரை பார்த்ததும், அவரா இவரு என்று நினைக்க வைத்திருக்கிறார்” என்றார்!
  
  Vikram“இந்த டிரெய்லர் வித்தியாசமாக இருக்கு என்றார்கள். இதில் எனக்கொன்றும் ஆச்சர்யம் இல்லை. பாலா படத்தில் வித்தியாசம் இல்லைன்னாதான் வித்தியாசம். அடுத்ததாக பாலா படம் உருவாக ஐந்து வருடம் கூட ஆகலாம். ஆனால் பாலா படத்திலே நடிக்க ரொம்ப ஆர்வமா இருக்கேன்” என்றார் விக்ரம்.
  
  “கடவுள்னா பூஜை இருக்கும். இங்கே பூஜாவே இருக்கு” என்று அவரை பேச அழைத்தார் விழா தொகுப்பாளர் யூகிசேது. (என்ன ஒரு அற்புதமான தொகுப்பு!) மைக் முன் வந்த பூஜா தமிழில் ஆரம்பித்து ஆங்கிலத்தில் நீந்தி பின்பு தமிழில் வணக்கம் போட்டார். “நான் என்ன பேசறதுன்னே தெரியலே. பாலா சார் ஐ லவ் யூ” என்றார் உணர்ச்சிவசப்பட்டு. வந்ததில் இருந்தே முகத்தில் எவ்வித உணர்ச்சியையும் Swaminathanகாட்டிக் கொள்ளாத பாலா, இதற்கும் அதே போல் ஒரு முக பாவனையை காட்டினார்.
  
  ‘நான் கடவுள்’ என்ற வார்த்தை எப்படிப்பட்ட வைபரேஷன் உடையது என்பதை விளக்கிய பிரமிட் சாய்மீரா நிறுவனத்தின் தலைவர் சுவாமிநாதனின் பேச்சுதான் மிக மிக சுவாரஸ்யம்! “ரிக் வேதத்தில்தான் இந்த வார்த்தை முதன் முதலில் உச்சரிக்கப்பட்டது. இந்த வார்த்தையை உச்சரித்த அடுத்த வினாடி அவர் உயிரோடு இல்லை” என்று துவங்கி, இந்த வார்த்தையால் பலியானவர்களின் பட்டியலை அடுக்க அடுக்க திகில் பற்றிக் கொண்டது அரங்கில். நல்ல வேளையாக தனது உரையை பாசிட்டிவாக முடித்தார் சுவாமிநாதன்.
  
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/Hotnews/2009/January/020109.asp
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 11:52:15 2009.

  நான் கடவுள்:
  
  ஒரு சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் இல்லாவிட்டாலும், அவர் நடித்த படத்துக்கு நிகரான பரபரப்பையும், எதிர்பார்ப்பையும் கிளப்பியுள்ள படம் பாலா- இளையராஜா கூட்டணியில் விஸ்வரூபம் எடுத்து நிற்கும் நான் கடவுள்.
  
  மூன்று வருடங்கள் ஒரு தவம் மாதிரி இருந்து இந்தப் படத்தை எடுத்திருக்கிறார், கோடம்பாக்கத்தின் 'திரைஞானி' பாலா. அவரது படைப்புக்கு உயிர் கொடுத்திருக்கிறது இசைஞானியின் ஆர்மோனியம். 'பொங்கலுக்கும் தீபாவளிக்கும் ரிலீஸ் பண்ண என் படம் கரும்போ, பட்டாசோ அல்ல... ஜீவனுள்ள ஒரு படைப்பு. அது முழுமையடையும்போதுதான் வெளியாகும்' என்ற ' மிஸ்டர் பர்பெக்ஷனிஸ்ட்' பாலாவின் பிடிவாதத்துக்கு விருதுகள் காத்திருப்பது நிஜம்.
  
  
  
  இந்தப் படத்தைக் காண தமிழகம் மட்டுமல்ல... பிறமொழி ரசிகர்களும்கூட ஆவலாக இருப்பதாக நடிகர் விக்ரம் நேற்று கூறினார். அது மிகையான வார்த்தையில்லை.
  
  ஆர்யா நாயகனாக நடித்துள்ள இந்தப் படத்தின் ஆடியோ, வெளியான முதல் நாளிலேயே பெரும் வரவேற்பைப் பெற்றுள்ளது. பல கடைகளில் ஆடியோ சிடி கிடைக்காத நிலை. எஃப்எம்கள் புண்ணியத்தால் ஆடியோ மார்க்கெட்டே விழுந்து கிடக்கும் இந்தச் சூழலில், வருடத்தின் முதல் நாளே நான் கடவுள் ஆடியோ சாதனை படைக்க ஆரம்பித்திருப்பது நல்ல அறிகுறியாகவே படுகிறது.
  
  http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/01/02-most-expected-movies-of-year-2009.html
  
  ------------------------------
  
  P.S : I purchased CD at landmark and sema response (oru nalainchu peru CD kaiyula eduthuttu ponanga within 2 minutes)
  
  

• From: jaiganes on Fri Jan 2 12:04:07 2009.

  @SP!
  Torture porn appadinu oru genre irukku USA la.
  Neenga adhayellaam paatheengana Namma padangalai kanmani poongaannu solveenga.!!
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 12:07:18 2009.

  jaiganes wrote:

  @SP! Torture porn appadinu oru genre irukku USA la. Neenga adhayellaam paatheengana Namma padangalai kanmani poongaannu solveenga.!!

  
  
  appo SP kuzhanthaiya
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 12:20:58 2009.

  Sanjeevi,
  
  
  
  Jai ganesh,
  
  I dont remember the movie name now.
  I remember seeing one such movie in starmovies.
  
  It was YUCKY and SICKKKKK to the core, I could not watch more than 20 mins.
  
  The whole story was revolving around how a woman gets lost in a deep forest, tangled amidst some saddistic lunatic bunch. and then she goes frantically searches for some aircraft to get back
  
  Something like everybody whom she thinks is her friend, or ally, including her own husband, turns into some kinda crazy sex maniacs or god knows what :sigh_yucks:
  
  I went berserk in 20 mins that I wanted to PUKE.
  
  I switched to another channel soon enough.
  
  I forgot the movie name, and ofcourse the actors had to look MOST UNPLEASANT with horns and blood and what not :yuckkkkkkkk:
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 13:37:05 2009.

  http://starmakerstudio.blogspot.com/2009/01/blog-post.html
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 13:41:57 2009.

  Thanks for the link.
  
  Is it certified "Adult only" ?
  
  
  
  

• From: Sanjeevi on Fri Jan 2 13:45:30 2009.

  Shakthiprabha wrote:

  Thanks for the link. Is it certified "Adult only" ?

  
  
  neenga padichuttengala
  
  ofcourse NK is the flick for matured people only
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 13:56:43 2009.

  padichu tension aagitten.
  
  I suppose, as a novel, I would MAY BE LOVE IT
  
  As a movie, .... therila
  
  Nothing horrendous though, if we convince ourselves that people have their own life styles and bound to justify the same.
  
  
  
  It takes a strong mind to view it. May be I shall may b e not
  
  
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 13:59:57 2009.

  SP, it's been given a U/A. So it won't be that bad, I guess
  
  

• From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Jan 2 14:11:09 2009.

  hmmm.
  
  words always drive us towards sharper edge, which probably would be softened or suggestive in the actual movie
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Fri Jan 2 14:46:02 2009.

  I don't think NK is based on 'aEzhAm ulagam', the official ads say that story is by Bala. Bala would have thought of using Jeyamohan after reading the book to add more authenticity to the dialogues for his story.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Fri Jan 2 17:57:28 2009.

  Om Siva Om is a terrific song
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 19:26:07 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  Amma un piLLai - 80s Raja is back. (Esp. the percussions) Vintage stuff

  
  Ennanga solreenga?
  The percussion in the ludes SUCKS (reeks of synth throughout the song) Raaja is not going to change this aspect at all Lame freakin tin dabba sounds..
  Freakin sounds like some cheap instrumental version of Raaja hits one hears in Chettinad restaurants
  
  

• From: Nerd on Fri Jan 2 20:16:05 2009.

  That was my initial reaction after just listening to the pallavi (tabla). Excitement/Euphoria etc., However, I like that song.
  
  For those who missed the Audio release function on TV, you can watch that here
  
  

• From: complicateur on Fri Jan 2 20:17:33 2009.

  Nerd: Mikka NanRi Hai.
  //dign. vAli pEsumbOthu bEkgravund-la nikkiravaru AnbE sivaththula pArththA nyAbagam end dign.//
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Fri Jan 2 20:33:16 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  That was my initial reaction after just listening to the pallavi (tabla). Excitement/Euphoria etc., However, I like that song.

  
  enakku vera onnum illainga.. peeling Album after album, we keep hoping that he rids his songs completely off that sound...
  
  

• From: romio on Fri Jan 2 22:34:37 2009.

  Naan Kadavul Songs & Trailor Both simply Superb ....
  i think thala Missed another Great Film ...
  
  

• From: romio on Fri Jan 2 22:39:51 2009.

  I think Movie is Based on Aghori Sadhus of Himalayas & Varanasi Graveyards...
  and Philosophy from rigveda Aham Brahmasmi Philosophy itself is Great So i am sure Movie will be totaly different .
  Last year Subrahmaniyapuram this year Naan Kadavul Tamil Cinema is Changing to International Level [Still majority of films are copycat or remix of telungu masala films .
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sat Jan 3 2:44:42 2009.

  crvenky wrote:

  Amazing video - Naan Kadavul BGM recording!! http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/events/illayarajaa-at-naan-kadavul-rerecording-session-videos/

  
  

• From: Nerd on Sat Jan 3 3:04:57 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  crvenky wrote: Amazing video - Naan Kadavul BGM recording!! http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/events/illayarajaa-at-naan-kadavul-rerecording-session-videos/

  
  Whoa!!!!!! Actually I am not surprised. Its a Bala (and IR) film for God's sakes. But how the hell did KWT get hold of this footage???
  
  Amma un piLLayil is a 3-para song which means we have three dumb-synth-drum ludes. The third interlude is extremely irritating, even the violin. Tabla sounds that back the vocals are good. Minus the ludes, the song is a gem. Sadhana is terrific. Anyway only this song is average, all others are 5/5
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sat Jan 3 3:07:02 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  crvenky wrote: Amazing video - Naan Kadavul BGM recording!! http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/events/illayarajaa-at-naan-kadavul-rerecording-session-videos/

  
  Whoa!!!!!! Actually I am not surprised. Its a Bala (and IR) film for God's sakes. But how the hell did KWT get hold of this footage???
  
  Amma un piLLai is a 3-para song which means we have three dumb-synth-drum ludes. The third interlude is extremely irritating, even the violin. Tabla sounds that back the vocals are good. Minus the ludes, the song is a gem. Sadhana is terrific. Anyway only this song is average, all others are 5/5
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Sat Jan 3 6:03:03 2009.

  Pithamagan promos la Sithan jail fight BGM-a kettu adaindha adhe poorippu, anandham
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 6:09:02 2009.

  OM SIVA OM IR has rocked and the singer is blazing throughout the song he has sung with great energy n involvement!!!
  
  IR has used udukkai sound inbetween in a great fashion!
  
  
  For sure if this song was picturized in KAASI with all those yoga poses of arya, this would be a chartbuster
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 3 6:21:55 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  kameshratnam wrote: @ Above The news is totally wrong..the movie was totally cleared on dec 31st by the censor board and how cud IR do the RR On jan 1st..if u are gonna give a movie for censor..the movie shd be fully ready isnt it.. A movie can be sent to censor without BGM! They are more concerned about visuals and dialogues which needs to be censored rather than the music. BTW I heard from some industry people that 'Raaja' is infact very much engrossed by the movie and still working on the BGM. He has completed the BGM for 'Nandalala' while still working for 'NK' Which shows the master craftsman 'Bala' had given a challenge to Raaja which he has never met in last 32 years. We all know Raaja will come out with flying colors

  
  
  Was responding to a query in other thread...BGM recording sessions VDO paathappuram I wanted to add..."Ipdi Thalaivarayum Thaadi Valarkka Vechutaane Bala"
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Sat Jan 3 6:25:09 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  OM SIVA OM IR has rocked and the singer is blazing throughout the song he has sung with great energy n involvement!!! IR has used udukkai sound inbetween in a great fashion! For sure if this song was picturized in KAASI with all those yoga poses of arya, this would be a chartbuster

  
  
  I heard the song is BGM for some fight sequences like 'Adadaa agangara' from Pithmagan. Not sure if its true.
  
  

• From: thilak4life on Sat Jan 3 6:51:41 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  crvenky wrote: Amazing video - Naan Kadavul BGM recording!! http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/events/illayarajaa-at-naan-kadavul-rerecording-session-videos/

  
  
  'tha. Divinity and all that...
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:11:14 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: OM SIVA OM IR has rocked and the singer is blazing throughout the song he has sung with great energy n involvement!!! IR has used udukkai sound inbetween in a great fashion! For sure if this song was picturized in KAASI with all those yoga poses of arya, this would be a chartbuster I heard the song is BGM for some fight sequences like 'Adadaa agangara' from Pithmagan. Not sure if its true.

  
  
  
  Wow then its terrific!!!!!
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:18:04 2009.

  Pichai Paathiram would for sure be intro song for ARYA.
  
  
  However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped all producers are now on invisible mode, infact NAAN KADAVUL's PL THENAPPAN is now on invisible mode
  
  
  En Bala matum ellariyum chithirivadhai paduthi padam edukuran?
  Betterment of Tamil Cinema is needed, but not at the cost of worsening of human conditions!
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Jan 3 7:30:31 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped ,

  
  
  endha sethu..endha pithamagan?
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Jan 3 7:34:02 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped , endha sethu..endha pithamagan?

  
  
  
  
  ella padamum flop-na appuram edhukku Bala padatha expect panranga...
  
  

• From: directhit on Sat Jan 3 7:34:50 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  Pichai Paathiram would for sure be intro song for ARYA. However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped all producers are now on invisible mode, infact NAAN KADAVUL's PL THENAPPAN is now on invisible mode En Bala matum ellariyum chithirivadhai paduthi padam edukuran? Betterment of Tamil Cinema is needed, but not at the cost of worsening of human conditions!

  
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:35:03 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped , endha sethu..endha pithamagan?

  
  
  Bala's Sethu and Bala's Pithamagan.
  
  Both were commercial flops though critically acclaimed.
  
  
  Rendu padam producerum kaanama poitanga
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:37:27 2009.

  HonestRaj wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: A_Ajith wrote: However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped , endha sethu..endha pithamagan? ella padamum flop-na appuram edhukku Bala padatha expect panranga...

  
  
  
  For its difference.
  
  Naama ellorum ANBE SIVAM super movienu ipo soldromla, aana commerciala padam odalaila adhey kadhai thaan!!!
  
  Nandha, Pithamagan ellam aaha ohonu sonalum, commerciala flop thaan.
  
  Pithamagan, Tirumalai, Anjaneya n all released together for that diwali and only Tirumalai was a hit.
  
  Commercially pithamagan did not reap benefits. Producerey idhai sonaru paperla bala reimburse pananumnu
  
  

• From: directhit on Sat Jan 3 7:38:20 2009.

  Pichai Pathiram Madhu Balakrishnan sounds so much like KJ and perhaps for that single reason i get reminded of Pazham Thamizh Pattizhayum of Manichitrathaazhu - can learned hubbers tell if its the same raaga or is it jus the voices
  Have been listening to Om Siva Om and Pichai pathiram on loop
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:39:28 2009.

  I think pichai paathiram was sung well by IR in RAMANA MAALAI than MADHU BALAKRISHNAN in this song
  
  
  However OM SIVA OM the singer is awesome. Has he sung any songs before?
  
  

• From: directhit on Sat Jan 3 7:40:34 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  I think pichai paathiram was sung well by IR in RAMANA MAALAI than MADHU BALAKRISHNAN in this song However OM SIVA OM the singer is awesome. Has he sung any songs before?

  Manmohini in Yuvraaj. Read in this thread he had sung in Cheeni Kum and some others too b4
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 7:42:12 2009.

  directhit, this song OM SIVA OM is a direct hit in top10 songs for sure
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Jan 3 9:12:49 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: A_Ajith wrote: However i wonder about commercial viability of Bala films. His Nandha Flopped, Pithamagan Flopped, Sethu Flopped , endha sethu..endha pithamagan? Rendu padam producerum kaanama poitanga

  
  we know what happened to gv..soo nayagan,agni natchathiram were flops?
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 9:23:42 2009.

  GV kaanama ponadhuku kaaranam enna padamnu ooruke theriyum!!! Not nayagan or agni natchathiram
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sat Jan 3 9:25:31 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  GV kaanama ponadhuku kaaranam enna padamnu ooruke theriyum!!! Not nayagan or agni natchathiram

  
  
  thats what i say...after sethu and pithamagan those producers produced movies
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 9:35:20 2009.

  Vivasaayi avanga produce pangala
  
  
  Sari apadiye irundhalum avanga paperla kumirananga
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sat Jan 3 9:36:03 2009.

  Theme of the movie might have been a similar one to Ghost rider....
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 9:40:45 2009.

  steveaustin wrote:

  Theme of the movie might have been a similar one to Ghost rider....

  
  
  
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sat Jan 3 9:41:33 2009.

  'இது கடைசி மனிதர்களை பற்றிய படம்': பாலா
  
  http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/01/03-bala-speaks-on-naan-kadavul.html
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 9:42:46 2009.

  steveaustin wrote:

  'இது கடைசி மனிதர்களை பற்றிய படம்': பாலா http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/01/03-bala-speaks-on-naan-kadavul.html

  
  
  Kadaisi ilai, VILUMBU NILAI MANIDHARGAL ENDRU KOORINAR BALA
  
  

• From: steveaustin on Sat Jan 3 9:44:54 2009.

  2009- நம்பிக்கை படங்கள்!
  
  நான் கடவுள்: ஒரு சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் இல்லாவிட்டாலும், அவர் நடித்த படத்துக்கு நிகரான பரபரப்பையும், எதிர்பார்ப்பையும் கிளப்பியுள்ள படம் பாலா- இளையராஜா கூட்டணியில் விஸ்வரூபம் எடுத்து நிற்கும் நான் கடவுள்.
  
  மூன்று வருடங்கள் ஒரு தவம் மாதிரி இருந்து இந்தப் படத்தை எடுத்திருக்கிறார், கோடம்பாக்கத்தின் 'திரைஞானி' பாலா. அவரது படைப்புக்கு உயிர் கொடுத்திருக்கிறது இசைஞானியின் ஆர்மோனியம். 'பொங்கலுக்கும் தீபாவளிக்கும் ரிலீஸ் பண்ண என் படம் கரும்போ, பட்டாசோ அல்ல... ஜீவனுள்ள ஒரு படைப்பு. அது முழுமையடையும்போதுதான் வெளியாகும்' என்ற ' மிஸ்டர் பர்பெக்ஷனிஸ்ட்' பாலாவின் பிடிவாதத்துக்கு விருதுகள் காத்திருப்பது நிஜம்.
  
  இந்தப் படத்தைக் காண தமிழகம் மட்டுமல்ல... பிறமொழி ரசிகர்களும்கூட ஆவலாக இருப்பதாக நடிகர் விக்ரம் நேற்று கூறினார். அது மிகையான வார்த்தையில்லை.
  
  ஆர்யா நாயகனாக நடித்துள்ள இந்தப் படத்தின் ஆடியோ, வெளியான முதல் நாளிலேயே பெரும் வரவேற்பைப் பெற்றுள்ளது. பல கடைகளில் ஆடியோ சிடி கிடைக்காத நிலை. எஃப்எம்கள் புண்ணியத்தால் ஆடியோ மார்க்கெட்டே விழுந்து கிடக்கும் இந்தச் சூழலில், வருடத்தின் முதல் நாளே நான் கடவுள் ஆடியோ சாதனை படைக்க ஆரம்பித்திருப்பது நல்ல அறிகுறியாகவே படுகிறது.
  
  http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2009/01/02-most-expected-movies-of-year-2009.html
  
  

• From: equanimus on Sat Jan 3 10:46:52 2009.

  complicateur wrote:

  //dign. vAli pEsumbOthu bEkgravund-la nikkiravaru AnbE sivaththula pArththA nyAbagam end dign.//

  
  Yes, courtesy Sundar C. nInga Vadivelu comedy scenes ellAm pAkkuradhE illaiyA? He's a regular there.
  
  

• From: HonestRaj on Sat Jan 3 10:58:33 2009.

  equanimus wrote:

  complicateur wrote: //dign. vAli pEsumbOthu bEkgravund-la nikkiravaru AnbE sivaththula pArththA nyAbagam end dign.// Yes, courtesy Sundar C. nInga Vadivelu comedy scenes ellAm pAkkuradhE illaiyA? He's a regular there.

  
  
  osama bin laden address ketpare andha aala
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sat Jan 3 12:05:22 2009.

  from orkut what i saw was people are heavily disturbed and movied by OM SIVA OM and PICHAI PAATHIRAM!!!
  
  
  OM SIVA OM when heard with high volume n bass takes you to a different level altogether!!!
  
  IR has rocked!
  
  

• From: equanimus on Sat Jan 3 14:21:06 2009.

  >> Digr.
  

  HonestRaj wrote:

  equanimus wrote: complicateur wrote: //dign. vAli pEsumbOthu bEkgravund-la nikkiravaru AnbE sivaththula pArththA nyAbagam end dign.// Yes, courtesy Sundar C. nInga Vadivelu comedy scenes ellAm pAkkuradhE illaiyA? He's a regular there. osama bin laden address ketpare andha aala

  
  Yes.
  << End digr.
  
  

• From: complicateur on Sat Jan 3 15:22:21 2009.

  >>dign.
  

  equanimus wrote:

  complicateur wrote: //dign. vAli pEsumbOthu bEkgravund-la nikkiravaru AnbE sivaththula pArththA nyAbagam end dign.// Yes, courtesy Sundar C. nInga Vadivelu comedy scenes ellAm pAkkuradhE illaiyA? He's a regular there.

  Ah yes. I remember now! end dign.<<
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sat Jan 3 23:58:40 2009.

  Actress pooja in her intreev to Chennai times has said that movie has lot of humor and its a BEAUTIFUL movie.....trailer was just to shock people....
  
  //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?//
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Jan 4 0:09:14 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Actress pooja in her intreev to Chennai times has said that movie has lot of humor and its a BEAUTIFUL movie.....trailer was just to shock people.... //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?//

  
  
  Yes..She is..
  
  I remember someone questioning Seeman for casting a Sinhalese heroine in his movie Thambi.
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 4 0:14:41 2009.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  I remember someone questioning Seeman for casting a Sinhalese heroine in his movie Thambi.

  
  
  //same question pops up in my mind too //
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 0:23:42 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?//

  
  
  I think her dad (or mom) is a Tamil.
  
  

• From: Querida on Sun Jan 4 0:25:49 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?// I think her dad (or mom) is a Tamil.

  
  
  //Wiki says Her mother is a Sri Lankan Sinhalese and her father is Kannadiga.//
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Jan 4 0:29:37 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: MADDY wrote: //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?// I think her dad (or mom) is a Tamil. //Wiki says Her mother is a Sri Lankan Sinhalese and her father is Kannadiga.//

  
  
  ennaaaa oru kaambination..seeman padathula nadikuradhuku...
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Jan 4 0:30:02 2009.

  Querida wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: MADDY wrote: //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?// I think her dad (or mom) is a Tamil. //Wiki says Her mother is a Sri Lankan Sinhalese and her father is Kannadiga.//

  
  
  Correct ! Born and settled in B'lore but often visits her grand parents in Colombo.
  
  

• From: Roshan on Sun Jan 4 0:32:50 2009.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Actress pooja in her intreev to Chennai times has said that movie has lot of humor and its a BEAUTIFUL movie.....trailer was just to shock people.... //not to start a racial discussion here, but is pooja sinhalese?// Yes..She is.. I remember someone questioning Seeman for casting a Sinhalese heroine in his movie Thambi.

  
  
  So stupid (not you Ajay.. the person who questioned Seeman )
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 4 0:40:17 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  ennaaaa oru kaambination..seeman padathula nadikuradhuku...

  
  
  for bala films too.........
  
  btw, all kannidagas neccessarily neednt agree to karnataka's cauvery stand..........
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 0:50:14 2009.

  She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world.
  
  

• From: thamiz on Sun Jan 4 1:05:05 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world.

  
  
  
  
  What a statement from a "judge"
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Sun Jan 4 1:07:36 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world.

  
  
  
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 4 1:12:21 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world.

  
  Oh yes.. before they get married
  
  

• From: Sinthiya on Sun Jan 4 1:36:13 2009.

  Just watched the trailer ...can't wait to see my fav couple on screen again, after Oram Po!
  
  Arya looks ...so different ...but the eyes are the same ...
  
  

• From: kamalsurya on Sun Jan 4 8:08:55 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  I think pichai paathiram was sung well by IR in RAMANA MAALAI than MADHU BALAKRISHNAN in this song However OM SIVA OM the singer is awesome. Has he sung any songs before?

  
  
  Not sure but i think his voice has similarities to hariharan...lol
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Sun Jan 4 8:55:19 2009.

  A_AJITH
  
  Pitcha paathiran by MADHU BALAKRISHANAN was too good..i liked it better then original version.
  
  

• From: A_Ajith on Sun Jan 4 10:51:14 2009.

  Naan Kadavul will beat the sh!t out of meaningless cinemas and turn tamil cinema into new path.
  
  Bala rocks NK should rock.
  
  Bala is oscar award director.
  
  
  
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Sun Jan 4 13:19:04 2009.

  kamalsurya wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: I think pichai paathiram was sung well by IR in RAMANA MAALAI than MADHU BALAKRISHNAN in this song However OM SIVA OM the singer is awesome. Has he sung any songs before? Not sure but i think his voice has similarities to hariharan...lol

  
  
  Vijay Prakash has sung for ARR in Yuvvraj.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 13:19:28 2009.

  thamiz wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world. What a statement from a "judge"

  
  
  
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 13:20:37 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: She is cute and that would have made Seeman not to worry about her origin. Pretty girls are true peace makers in real world. Oh yes.. before they get married

  
  
  ofcourse..... ofcourse
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 13:24:24 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  A_AJITH Pitcha paathiran by MADHU BALAKRISHANAN was too good..i liked it better then original version.

  
  
  Yeah, even I like this Madhu version better especially in the charanams, it is clear he has enjoyed while singing it.......IMO his rendering is so beautiful.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Sun Jan 4 13:26:28 2009.

  A_Ajith wrote:

  Naan Kadavul will beat the sh!t out of meaningless cinemas and turn tamil cinema into new path. Bala rocks NK should rock. Bala is oscar award director.

  
  
  nesamAththAn solreengalA??? vanjap pugazhchi ethuvum illaiyE?
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Sun Jan 4 22:36:32 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  A_Ajith wrote: Naan Kadavul will beat the sh!t out of meaningless cinemas and turn tamil cinema into new path. Bala rocks NK should rock. Bala is oscar award director. nesamAththAn solreengalA??? vanjap pugazhchi ethuvum illaiyE?

  
  
  naanga ellOrukkum friend'u
  ippa maarippOchchu trend'u
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 4 22:49:51 2009.

  ajaybaskar wrote:

  Vijay Prakash has sung for ARR in Yuvvraj.

  
  
  that still remains his best IMO
  
  but really glad for this guy who won the TVS saregama (hindi singing competition) some years back.....to be chosen by I.kadavul and I.raaja back to back is a rare feat in itself
  
  

• From: Nerd on Sun Jan 4 23:19:38 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  ajaybaskar wrote: Vijay Prakash has sung for ARR in Yuvvraj. that still remains his best IMO but really glad for this guy who won the TVS saregama (hindi singing competition) some years back.....to be chosen by I.kadavul and I.raaja back to back is a rare feat in itself

  
  
  
  And NK songs were recorded more than two years ago so you are right in a way
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 4 23:22:29 2009.

  Nerd wrote:

  MADDY wrote: ajaybaskar wrote: Vijay Prakash has sung for ARR in Yuvvraj. that still remains his best IMO but really glad for this guy who won the TVS saregama (hindi singing competition) some years back.....to be chosen by I.kadavul and I.raaja back to back is a rare feat in itself And NK songs were recorded more than two years ago so you are right in a way

  
  
  did i say, i maintained chronology in my statement?? infact it was VS agar who identified Vijay first........
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 4 23:24:35 2009.

  Sinthiya wrote:

  Just watched the trailer ...can't wait to see my fav couple on screen again, after Oram Po! Arya looks ...so different ...but the eyes are the same ...

  
  
  Pooja People here say the character of Pooja fits her very well and very natural
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 4 23:33:31 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Isaikadavul.

  
  
  Munnellaam ARR Kaduvul ngra level apparpattavarunnu solveenga. Ippa IR va God nnu solra maathiri neengalum solreenga.. So ippoathaikku equal va vachiteenga. Good improvement
  
  

• From: MADDY on Sun Jan 4 23:41:07 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MADDY wrote: Isaikadavul. Munnellaam ARR Kaduvul ngra level apparpattavarunnu solveenga. Ippa IR va God nnu solra maathiri neengalum solreenga.. So ippoathaikku equal va vachiteenga. Good improvement

  
  
  adhavadhu, ARR unga kadavul/unga nambikkai-kku appar pattavarnnu dhaan sonnen aaana avar engalakku, eppavume kadavul dhaan.......rahman mattum dhaan kadavul, naan dhaan kadavul-nnu solli reassure pannikka avasiyame illa
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Sun Jan 4 23:50:25 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  adhavadhu, ARR unga kadavul/unga nambikkai-kku appar pattavarnnu dhaan sonnen aaana avar engalakku, eppavume kadavul dhaan.......rahman mattum dhaan kadavul, naan dhaan kadavul-nnu solli reassure pannikka avasiyame illa

  
  
  Parliament election la nillunga
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Jan 5 0:06:12 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MADDY wrote: adhavadhu, ARR unga kadavul/unga nambikkai-kku appar pattavarnnu dhaan sonnen aaana avar engalakku, eppavume kadavul dhaan.......rahman mattum dhaan kadavul, naan dhaan kadavul-nnu solli reassure pannikka avasiyame illa Parliament election la nillunga

  
  
  cho
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 2:12:44 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  adhavadhu, ARR unga kadavul/unga nambikkai-kku appar pattavarnnu dhaan sonnen aaana avar engalakku, eppavume kadavul dhaan.......rahman mattum dhaan kadavul, naan dhaan kadavul-nnu solli reassure pannikka avasiyame illa

  
  
  
  
  There is only one God for soul but there are many Gods for mind just like our PRO Surya said in the function.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 2:17:43 2009.

  NK album is one hell of an album. Wow...... can't wait to see the songs on big screen. Bala, you made our man to haunt us after so long...The word 'thanks' isn't enough to thank you.
  
  I know you will take years to complete your project but as a IR fan I urge you seekiram aduththa padaththa ArambikkaNum please!
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Mon Jan 5 2:38:58 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: adhavadhu, ARR unga kadavul/unga nambikkai-kku appar pattavarnnu dhaan sonnen aaana avar engalakku, eppavume kadavul dhaan.......rahman mattum dhaan kadavul, naan dhaan kadavul-nnu solli reassure pannikka avasiyame illa There is only one God for soul but there are many Gods for mind just like our PRO Surya said in the function.

  
  
  Well said, Mr.Judge.
  
  But I wonder why the same Surya has Newyork Nagaram as his caller tune for 2 odd years. Hope his god is in good sleep for quite some years.
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jan 5 2:47:01 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  NK album is one hell of an album. Wow...... can't wait to see the songs on big screen. Bala, you made our man to haunt us after so long...The word 'thanks' isn't enough to thank you.

  
  "With Grand Music From the Maestro" nu screen la varum paarunga... vaippe illa
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 5 3:03:46 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  There is only one God for soul but there are many Gods for mind just like our PRO Surya said in the function.

  
  
  thanks for confirming his recruitment.........
  
  ajay - surya madhiri &%%^$^ aalunga pathhi ellam pesi, naama nerathha veen adikka vendaam....... NK audio kettela??? reaction PM pannunga me listening it, as and when i get time - yet to form a opinion
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 3:11:06 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: NK album is one hell of an album. Wow...... can't wait to see the songs on big screen. Bala, you made our man to haunt us after so long...The word 'thanks' isn't enough to thank you. "With Grand Music From the Maestro" nu screen la varum paarunga... vaippe illa

  
  
  Yes, IR romba rasichchu pOtta mAthiri irukku NK album after long long time, and after watched the BGM session, when his name appears on screen summA kalakkap pOguthu. NK album will stay in the heart of many IR fans for long time.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 3:28:28 2009.

  NK, a story of cannibal???
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 3:35:14 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  NK, a story of cannibal???

  
  
  Cannibal ellam Illa, 'Aghories' A Sect of Shiva Devotees who cleanse their souls by eating dead human corpses
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 3:36:16 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  thanks for confirming his recruitment.........

  
  
  Not only him, we have so many I know it is difficult for you to understand the difference between the Gods but I am sure some day in your life you will identify it if you truly pursue them.
  
  //end
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 3:37:03 2009.

  Raaja'vukku Cut-out vechu Paalaabishegam panna Naan ready yaar ellam inga Readyo'Kaiyya thookkunga
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 3:40:11 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  viraajan wrote: NK, a story of cannibal??? Cannibal ellam Illa, 'Aghories' A Sect of Shiva Devotees who cleanse their souls by eating dead human corpses

  
  
  Thanks RS
  
  I heard that he'll eat pooja in the climax
  
  Movie is all set to make a difference!!!
  
  I had no great admiration at bala's work tilll date! His sethu was different and pithamagan carried a new meaning for human emotions!!
  Aanalum, the whole movie was on Vikram's and surya's shoulders!! Story-a innum konjam nalla sedhukki irukkalam
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 3:40:58 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  viraajan wrote: NK, a story of cannibal??? Cannibal ellam Illa, 'Aghories' A Sect of Shiva Devotees who cleanse their souls by eating dead human corpses

  
  
  Eating human flesh is cannibalism, is 'eating dead human corpses' different?
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 3:42:23 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Raaja'vukku Cut-out vechu Paalaabishegam panna Naan ready yaar ellam inga Readyo'Kaiyya thookkunga

  
  
  -deleted-
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 5 3:42:46 2009.

  Bala could have used "poovar senni mannan" from Thiruvasagam.
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 3:43:43 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Raaja'vukku Cut-out vechu Paalaabishegam panna Naan ready yaar ellam inga Readyo'Kaiyya thookkunga

  
  
  appadiyE Balavukkum chinnathA oru cut-out vaikkaNum. intha mAthiri album IR-tta irunthu vAngunathukku.
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 3:47:45 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Raaja'vukku Cut-out vechu Paalaabishegam panna Naan ready yaar ellam inga Readyo'Kaiyya thookkunga

  
  
  
  \O/
  | |
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 5 3:52:55 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: thanks for confirming his recruitment......... Not only him, we have so many I know it is difficult for you to understand the difference between the Gods but I am sure some day in your life you will identify it if you truly pursue them. //end

  
  
  // judge, just becos i accepted mahendran is a better director than maniratnam doesent mean i'll keep changing my opinions..........i'll stick to ARR till i breathe my last //
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 5 3:55:10 2009.

  MADDY,
  
  yes..surya spoke abt arr with great respect and praised him.But that doesnt mean that arr is his most fav music director...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 3:55:52 2009.

  19th time
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Mon Jan 5 3:55:53 2009.

  maddy, Mr.Judge pokkiri vadivelu baaniyila avarukke sollirukkalaam...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 4:00:00 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  // judge, just becos i accepted mahendran is a better director than maniratnam doesent mean i'll keep changing my opinions..........i'll stick to ARR till i breathe my last //

  
  
  //Well that is what you're thinking now. You had the same thinking about Mani earlier. What I am saying is your opinion will change with time. Just listen to IR's orchestration whenever you get time from his 70s-early 90s albums, you will understand why IR fans don't accept anyone else. If you want to take a faster route, learn to play some music instruments and try IR's music, you are bound to know the true God//
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 4:00:13 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  19th time

  
  
  IR-ARR fight ah???
  
  Remember, the count will go on and on!!!
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:04:35 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: 19th time IR-ARR fight ah??? Remember, the count will go on and on!!!

  
  
  Judje payyanum, MADDY payyanum kooda vanthu sanda poaduvaangannu ninaikureengalaa
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 4:11:44 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: viraajan wrote: NK, a story of cannibal??? Cannibal ellam Illa, 'Aghories' A Sect of Shiva Devotees who cleanse their souls by eating dead human corpses Eating human flesh is cannibalism, is 'eating dead human corpses' different?

  
  
  Sari sari, Ippa enna athukku
  
  

• From: Srimannarayanan on Mon Jan 5 4:11:57 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: 19th time IR-ARR fight ah??? Remember, the count will go on and on!!! Judje payyanum, MADDY payyanum kooda vanthu sanda poaduvaangannu ninaikureengalaa

  
  
  Thiru
  
  Neenga yarukku supprt ? Maddy or JUdge?
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 5 4:12:16 2009.

  Vivasaayi wrote:

  MADDY, yes..surya spoke abt arr with great respect and praised him.But that doesnt mean that arr is his most fav music director...

  
  
  vikki, oru chinna question - suppose if Shankar keeps saying Rajinikanth is the best actor in India....others' actors are ok, but rajini's acting is eternal and then keeps working with kamalhassan - will u accept shankar???
  
  //judge, ellam oru round naa paathhachu i went to the edge of conceeding that IR is greater than ARR but again ARR's works didnt let me go.....instead u shuld shed ur inhibitions abt how music should be composed and idea abt what is great music, u'll understand why ARR has so many fans //
  
  ajay self realisation
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 4:14:22 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: MADDY wrote: thanks for confirming his recruitment......... Not only him, we have so many I know it is difficult for you to understand the difference between the Gods but I am sure some day in your life you will identify it if you truly pursue them. //end // judge, just becos i accepted mahendran is a better director than maniratnam doesent mean i'll keep changing my opinions..........i'll stick to ARR till i breathe my last //

  
  
  Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:16:45 2009.

  Srimannarayanan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: viraajan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: 19th time IR-ARR fight ah??? Remember, the count will go on and on!!! Judje payyanum, MADDY payyanum kooda vanthu sanda poaduvaangannu ninaikureengalaa Thiru Neenga yarukku supprt ? Maddy or JUdge?

  
  
  athu vanthu... support .. yaarukku .. neenga.. anga ... oh.. appuramm.. yaen ippadi
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:17:31 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  vikki, oru chinna question - suppose if Shankar keeps saying Rajinikanth is the best actor in India....others' actors are ok, but rajini's acting is eternal and then keeps working with kamalhassan - will u accept shankar???

  
  
  evvalavu chinna question
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:19:18 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MADDY wrote: vikki, oru chinna question - suppose if Shankar keeps saying Rajinikanth is the best actor in India....others' actors are ok, but rajini's acting is eternal and then keeps working with kamalhassan - will u accept shankar??? evvalavu chinna question

  
  
  btw answer sollanumnaa...
  
  "ippa mattum shankar a accept panroama enna"
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 5 4:25:36 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye

  
  
  slight change now its Ninnukori varnam from AN....dont think there will be a better song composed on earth
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:27:22 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye slight change now its Ninnukori varnam from AN....dont think there will be a better song composed on earth

  
  
  Ithukku munnaadi enna song
  
  

• From: MADDY on Mon Jan 5 4:31:59 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  MADDY wrote: rajasaranam wrote: Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye slight change now its Ninnukori varnam from AN....dont think there will be a better song composed on earth Ithukku munnaadi enna song

  
  
  maalaiyil yaaro - sathriyan.....i dunno, the tune just melts me
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:34:08 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  maalaiyil yaaro - sathriyan.....i dunno, the tune just melts me

  
  
  honestraj would be happy too
  
  

• From: rajasaranam on Mon Jan 5 4:34:11 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  rajasaranam wrote: Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye slight change now its Ninnukori varnam from AN....dont think there will be a better song composed on earth

  
  
  Good Appa TOP 2 songs Enga saami Paattu innum neraiya unearth panna vaendi irukku thambi nee
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 4:38:30 2009.

  rajasaranam wrote:

  MADDY wrote: rajasaranam wrote: Aana Antha TOP of All Songs Enga Kadavul'thaana! Antha opiniona innum maathikalaye slight change now its Ninnukori varnam from AN....dont think there will be a better song composed on earth Good Appa TOP 2 songs Enga saami Paattu innum neraiya unearth panna vaendi irukku thambi nee

  
  
  suntv 2008 top 3 movies...
  1. dasaavadhaaram
  2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen
  3. thenaavattu
  
  no VA in the top 10.
  
  

• From: Sanguine Sridhar on Mon Jan 5 4:42:55 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10.

  
  
  
  
  VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why.
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 4:46:28 2009.

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

  SoftSword wrote: suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10. VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why.

  
  
  
  
  Even Dasa rights are not with Sun TV
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 4:56:44 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  viraajan wrote: Thirumaran wrote: 19th time IR-ARR fight ah??? Remember, the count will go on and on!!! Judje payyanum, MADDY payyanum kooda vanthu sanda poaduvaangannu ninaikureengalaa

  
  
  
  
  Namma adidhadi ellam vittu romba naal aagudhu... not willing to be a part of any arguements!
  
  

• From: ajaybaskar on Mon Jan 5 4:59:02 2009.

  http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-music-reviews/review-1/naan-kadavul.html
  
  

• From: sarna_blr on Mon Jan 5 5:04:41 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote: SoftSword wrote: suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10. VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why. Even Dasa rights are not with Sun TV

  
  
  Bala thread'la edha vEnum'naalum discuss pannalaamaa
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 5:23:11 2009.

  sarna_blr wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Sanguine Sridhar wrote: SoftSword wrote: suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10. VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why. Even Dasa rights are not with Sun TV Bala thread'la edha vEnum'naalum discuss pannalaamaa

  
  
  check my post... it was very much relevant to the post i replied to...
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 5:43:10 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  Sanguine Sridhar wrote: SoftSword wrote: suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10. VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why. Even Dasa rights are not with Sun TV

  
  
  Just look closer at the list again. Is there any other better way to degrade any movie than clubbing it in that list? I don't think so!
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 5:48:10 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: Sanguine Sridhar wrote: SoftSword wrote: suntv 2008 top 3 movies... 1. dasaavadhaaram 2. kaadhalil vizhundhaen 3. thenaavattu no VA in the top 10. VA Sun Tv-ku rights kodukula, thats why. Even Dasa rights are not with Sun TV Just look closer at the list again. Is there any other better way to degrade any movie than clubbing it in that list? I don't think so!

  
  
  gosh, i didn mean to belittle DA by putting it here...
  i just wanted to make a point that just becos a film/song/music appears in the top 5/10 list, it doesn mean that thats the best... its just the opinion of the person who comes up with that list...
  
  

• From: Vivasaayi on Mon Jan 5 5:50:32 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  Vivasaayi wrote: MADDY, yes..surya spoke abt arr with great respect and praised him.But that doesnt mean that arr is his most fav music director... vikki, oru chinna question - suppose if Shankar keeps saying Rajinikanth is the best actor in India....others' actors are ok, but rajini's acting is eternal and then keeps working with kamalhassan - will u accept shankar???

  
  
  enna logic idhu?..1.rajni - kamal "acting" 2.ilayaraj - arr "music"..sagikkala
  
  surya keeps on working with arr..are u dreaming or what?...infact ilayaraja has scored more movies for surya than arr
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 5:50:41 2009.

  MADDY wrote:

  //judge, ellam oru round naa paathhachu i went to the edge of conceeding that IR is greater//

  
  
  //edgekku pOittu thirumbi vanthuteengaLa? no problem, you will cross over the line someday if not today.//
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 5:52:07 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  gosh, i didn mean to belittle DA by putting it here... i just wanted to make a point that just becos a film/song/music appears in the top 5/10 list, it doesn mean that thats the best... its just the opinion of the person who comes up with that list...

  
  
  that was understood Namma naatula neethi thurai eppavum sariyaa seyal padanumnu ethir paarka mudiyaathu
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 5:53:49 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  gosh, i didn mean to belittle DA by putting it here...i just wanted to make a point that just becos a film/song/music appears in the top 5/10 list, it doesn mean that thats the best... its just the opinion of the person who comes up with that list...

  
  
  I got your point and I was just kidding.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 5:57:11 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  MADDY wrote: //judge, ellam oru round naa paathhachu i went to the edge of conceeding that IR is greater// //edgekku pOittu thirumbi vanthuteengaLa? no problem, you will cross over the line someday if not today.//

  
  applicable for all...
  
  

• From: crajkumar_be on Mon Jan 5 6:03:40 2009.

  enna idhu chinna pulla thanama?
  Oruthar is on the verge of Golden Globe/Academy awards with very interesting projects ahead, innoruthar nee year a Attagasama/araajagama arambichirukkaaru, with Nandalala right next. ellathayum kettu enjoy panradha vittutu... Hari-um sivanum onnu, ariyadhavan vaayila mannu
  
  [aduthavangalukku advise panra sugam irukke.. ]
  
  

• From: MrJudge on Mon Jan 5 6:05:35 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  MrJudge wrote: MADDY wrote: //judge, ellam oru round naa paathhachu i went to the edge of conceeding that IR is greater// //edgekku pOittu thirumbi vanthuteengaLa? no problem, you will cross over the line someday if not today.// applicable for all...

  
  
  yENiyila kadaisi padi varaikkum already yEri Achchu....naduvula irukkiRa padiya paththi yosikkaRathu inimE romba romba kashtam
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 6:06:57 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  enna idhu chinna pulla thanama? Oruthar is on the verge of Golden Globe/Academy awards with very interesting projects ahead, innoruthar nee year a Attagasama/araajagama arambichirukkaaru, with Nandalala right next. ellathayum kettu enjoy panradha vittutu... Hari-um sivanum onnu, ariyadhavan vaayila mannu [aduthavangalukku advise panra sugam irukke.. ]

  
  
  i admire such posts of urs..
  
  indha advise patthi oru aangila pazhamozhi irukkae... "advise is like a$$............"
  
  but still on a broader perspective this advise is a bit sensible...
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 6:09:35 2009.

  MrJudge wrote:

  SoftSword wrote: MrJudge wrote: MADDY wrote: //judge, ellam oru round naa paathhachu i went to the edge of conceeding that IR is greater// //edgekku pOittu thirumbi vanthuteengaLa? no problem, you will cross over the line someday if not today.// applicable for all... yENiyila kadaisi padi varaikkum already yEri Achchu....naduvula irukkiRa padiya paththi yosikkaRathu inimE romba romba kashtam

  
  
  judge...
  idhu dhaan kadasip padi... idhukku mela onnumae illainu nenaikka aarambichuteengalaa enna...
  i don think its an healthy attitude... eppo kadasinu nenachutteengalo.. appo kandippa adhu dhaan kadaisi...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 6:10:19 2009.

  crajkumar_be wrote:

  Hari-um sivanum onnu, ariyadhavan vaayila mannu

  
  
  etiil ainthu en kazhiyum
  
  Ilayaraajaa vil rehman ____ appadinnu naan sollala
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 6:13:50 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Hari-um sivanum onnu, ariyadhavan vaayila mannu etiil ainthu en kazhiyum Ilayaraajaa vil rehman ____ appadinnu naan sollala

  
  
  Rajkumar - at your advise!!
  
  TM - Mudiva enna solla vareenga
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 6:17:25 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  TM - Mudiva enna solla vareenga

  
  
  kandippaa yaethaavathu sollanumaa
  
  Konjam paerukku Ilaneer pidikkum..
  Konjam paerukku pepsi/coke pidikkum...
  
  athu poala thaan ithuvum..
  
  Ithul yaaru ilaneer, yaaru pepsi ngratha pathi neengalae paesi mudivukku vaanga
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 6:18:34 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  crajkumar_be wrote: Hari-um sivanum onnu, ariyadhavan vaayila mannu etiil ainthu en kazhiyum Ilayaraajaa vil rehman ____ appadinnu naan sollala

  
  
  naaraayana... naaraayana...
  
  Thiru,
  i seriously dont believe that there is any sense in such arguments...
  when i started loving music, it was only ARRs songs which helped me do that... and then when i listened to IRs "how to name it?" and such stuff, i grew a great admiration for IRs work and his voice... but for me, the god/religion/color/nationality/blood group watever... is only ARR...
  but for that reason i cant restrict myself from NK kinda albums...
  
  this is me... for example.
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 6:21:04 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  viraajan wrote: TM - Mudiva enna solla vareenga kandippaa yaethaavathu sollanumaa Konjam paerukku Ilaneer pidikkum.. Konjam paerukku pepsi/coke pidikkum... athu poala thaan ithuvum.. Ithul yaaru ilaneer, yaaru pepsi ngratha pathi neengalae paesi mudivukku vaanga

  
  
  Balanced Judgement
  
  thiru...
  neenga electionla nikkalaam... certainly politics is ur cup of tea/ilanir... i believe u can do wonders to the society with ur talent...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 6:26:59 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  Thiru, i seriously dont believe that there is any sense in such arguments... .

  
  
  This statement of urs makes sense.
  
  

  SoftSword wrote:

  but for me, the god/religion/color/nationality/blood group watever... is only ARR... .

  
  
  Itha purinjikura thelivu ellaarukkum vanthutaa prachanayae illa. Prachanayae illainnaa NK adutha thread open panra chance seekiram varaaamalayae poi irukkum
  
  So Mathavanga opinion um purinjikittu, appappa chinna chinna seendalgaloada niruthitaa hub kkum ellaarukkum nallathu
  
  
  

  Quote:

  [aduthavangalukku advise panra sugam irukke.. ]

  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 6:28:48 2009.

  SoftSword wrote:

  i believe u can do wonders to the society with ur talent...

  
  
  BTW panam illayaepaa pattuvaadaa panna
  
  

• From: viraajan on Mon Jan 5 6:29:32 2009.

  Thirumaran wrote:

  viraajan wrote: TM - Mudiva enna solla vareenga kandippaa yaethaavathu sollanumaa Konjam paerukku Ilaneer pidikkum.. Konjam paerukku pepsi/coke pidikkum... athu poala thaan ithuvum.. Ithul yaaru ilaneer, yaaru pepsi ngratha pathi neengalae paesi mudivukku vaanga

  
  
  Enakku ilaneer than pudikkum
  
  But I dont hate Pepsi/coke... Adhaiyum pidukkum
  
  Ilaneer-oda son thenga paal-um pidikkum...
  
  Pepsi/coke saayal-la irukkura Kaalimaark soda-va konjam pidikkum...
  
  

• From: Thirumaran on Mon Jan 5 6:33:22 2009.

  naan yaethaavathu ulara koodaathae... udanae digresion aarambichuduveengalae
  
  Sari inga digression pannathu poathum.. Yaaravathu Naan Kadavul Part 2 open pannunga with good title and poll. And let us try to discuss only about the movie related details there
  
  

• From: SoftSword on Mon Jan 5 6:34:34 2009.

  viraajan wrote:

  Thirumaran wrote: viraajan wrote: TM - Mudiva enna solla vareenga kandippaa yaethaavathu sollanumaa Konjam paerukku Ilaneer pidikkum.. Konjam paerukku pepsi/coke pidikkum... athu poala thaan ithuvum.. Ithul yaaru ilaneer, yaaru pepsi ngratha pathi neengalae paesi mudivukku vaanga Enakku ilaneer than pudikkum But I dont hate Pepsi/coke... Adhaiyum pidukkum Ilaneer-oda son thenga paal-um pidikkum... Pepsi/coke saayal-la irukkura Kaalimaark soda-va konjam pidikkum...

  
  
  for me.. its only water... nothing can beat it...
  "water: the elixir of life"