Topic started by Thaya. (@ toronto-ppp3537525.sympatico.ca) on Mon Apr 29 20:04:52 .
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lets imagine,we have the ability of mix everything together,and keep the good.
just like....paanai seyyum pothu unshape'aa ponaal,mannellaam thirumba pisaiju puthusaa paanai seivome.....athupola.



Unmai poi
ondraaha vendum
Ulaham poi
illaamal vendum!

Inpam thunpam
ondraaha vendum
Inpam ondre
Nindraaha vendum!

Naanum neeyum
ondraaha vendum
Naam endra ondre
undaaha vendum!

Irappum pirappum
ondraaha vendum
Inimeal oru murai
Manithamaaha vendum!!

Responses:

• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-34-97.mantraonline.com) on: Sun Jun 2 15:31:27
  
  hmmm
  
  Mix it, filter it. So that poi, thunbam etc could be filtered. and thrown out.
  
  In that case why mix??? Just throw it as such.
  
  U can mix only those things which could be mixed and moulded.
  
  "Naanum neeyum
  ondraaha vendum
  Naam endra ondre
  undaaha vendum!
  
  Irappum pirappum
  ondraaha vendum
  Inimeal oru murai
  Manithamaaha vendum!!"<<<<
  
  possible, good, sensible!
  
  
  When poi and unmai are relative concepts or two sides of same coin how can u
  dispense one and ask for other? only the other???
  
  nizhalin arumai veyilil teriyum. Poi irundal taan unmaiyin perumai puriyum.
  Like wise for thunbam too. What is thunbam for u will be inbam for me or vice
  versa. So u cant generalise these.
  
  LOGICAL ERROR!
  
  Porul kuttram kanapadugiradu!
  
  
• From: Thaya. (@ toronto-ppp3537561.sympatico.ca) on: Sun Jun 2 21:01:38
  
  Good argument.
  will talk on this later.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234) on: Sun Jun 2 23:41:00
  
  
  Shakthi,
  I swa ur postings in "Chat Kathali" thread....at present I'm involved in writing a THoDar abt. Thirai Isaiyil RaagangaL....would like to get feedback from people who are into carnatic music...pls. send me an email....couldn't locate ur e-mail ID
  
  
  
  
• From: Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-188-91-109.mad.wi.charter.com) on: Mon Jun 3 00:26:41
  
  Shakthiyin Perumai Sivaththukku Theriyum
  Sivaththin Perumai Shakthikku Theriyum
  Khakthi Illaiyel Sivam Illai
  Sivam Illaiyel Shakthi Illai
  Onrin Perumai Onril Theriyumenil
  Shakthiyum Sivamum Onraathal YEn?
  Shakthiyum Sivamum Onraagum Pothu
  Poimaiyum Meymaiyum Onraathal aagum.
  
  Valluvamum vaarkkinrathu Ikkaruthtu thannai
  Poimaiyum Vaaimai idaththu Nanmai Payakkumenil
  KaRRirunthaal KuRRam Kandirukkaar Shakthi.
  
  Oru Thamizhan
  
  
• From: Oru Thamizhan (@ 66-188-91-109.mad.wi.charter.com) on: Mon Jun 3 00:27:35
  
  Sorry for the typo in my posting...
  
  Shakthiyin Perumai Sivaththukku Theriyum
  Sivaththin Perumai Shakthikku Theriyum
  Shakthi Illaiyel Sivam Illai
  Sivam Illaiyel Shakthi Illai
  Onrin Perumai Onril Theriyumenil
  Shakthiyum Sivamum Onraathal YEn?
  Shakthiyum Sivamum Onraagum Pothu
  Poimaiyum Meymaiyum Onraathal aagum.
  
  Valluvamum vaarkkinrathu Ikkaruthtu thannai
  Poimaiyum Vaaimai idaththu Nanmai Payakkumenil
  KaRRirunthaal KuRRam Kandirukkaar Shakthi.
  
  Oru Thamizhan
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-35-183.mantraonline.com) on: Mon Jun 3 02:30:41
  
  Thamizhare,
  
  " Valluvamum vaarkkinrathu Ikkaruthtu thannai
  Poimaiyum Vaaimai idaththu Nanmai Payakkumenil "<<<<<<
  
  
  I knew it! I knew someone would come up with this point.
  
  
  Well it goes like this...
  
  poimaiyum vaaimai idathe,
  purai teerndha nanmai bayakkum enin.
  
  (God forgive me if there are errors ! Or should I say Valluvar?)
  
  poimaiyum vaaimai idathe...
  means poi is like unmai (or takes the place of unmai)
  
  LIKE unmai, therefore it does not BECOME unmai.
  Next sentence went unnoticed. When is this poi like unmai?
  When by lying if u tend to bestow any benefit to any person,
  THEN poi is like unmai.So plz remember the rest of the sentence too.
  
  
  "KaRRirunthaal KuRRam Kandirukkaar Shakthi."<<<<
  
  Sorry went beyond me! enna solla vareenga?
  Kattrirukiradaal kutram kandena?
  Kalladadhaal kutram kandena?
  
  Padithaval endru koorugireera? Alladu,
  Padikadhaval endru Ekkala sirippa?
  
  Are u criticising me in a sarcastic way?
  
  Okei....comin to the context.......
  
  WE are talkin of relative points.
  
  A bowl of water, for me is just to quench thirst.
  The same bowl of water, for a fish is its place to dwell.
  Necessity for survival. Now thats relative concept.
  
  Yeah talkin of Advaita, its true there is nothing but
  single entity pervading all over. So poi and mei is same.
  Like ur talk on Shakthi and Shiva.
  
  But here, we are not talkin of advaita. The poet is talkin
  of mixing 2 things in mortal world in the perspective of
  we mortals. So God does not come into picture.
  
  It can be noticed in his next 2 sentence, that he desires
  for a world where there are no lies!
  
  Now since its clear he is talkin on these concept from
  normal human beings point of view, Advaita has no place.
  Hence the dwaitic feelings of inbam-tunbam, poi-mei,
  iravu-pagal, etc cannot be escaped. If these are true, then
  one cannot survive without the other.
  
  
  " Shakthi Illaiyel Sivam Illai
  Sivam Illaiyel Shakthi Illai "<<<<<<<
  
  LOL..(Laughing)..."Thiruvilaiyadal"
  padam paarthutu, nEra kavidai ezhudhiteengala?
  
  lol..
  
  
  (Just kiddin)
  
  
• From: j (@ 164.100.220.157) on: Mon Jun 3 08:04:57
  
  Thaya, Karpanayaga vendumanal ungal kavithai nijamagalam
  aanal nijathil ingu karpanyku velay illai enbathu
  en thazmayana karuthu
  
  Vaazhkayil enipu mattum irunthal nalla irukkuma ?
  
  
• From: Oru Thamizhan (@ h216-170-142-235.dsl.tds.net) on: Mon Jun 3 13:07:41
  
  
  shakthi,
  
  Thiruvilaiyaadal padam paarththuttu thaan naan athai ezhuthinen. But, Did I mention what I've written was a kavidhai? Thiruvilaiyaadalil irunthu thaan antha varigalaith thazhuvinen. Thazhuvuthal thavaraa?
  
  "KaRRirunthaal KuRRam Kandilaar" what I meant here was if you would have known that thirukkural, you wouldn't find any mistake on poi and mey concept. No hard feelings maam. Naan eppothum evaraiyum paarththu ekkalippathillai. EkkaaLam Ekkaalamum niRpathillai. By the way unga Advaidha concept was good. But u know what at the same time we can have Iravu and Pagal together. its an universal fact. Once again i am not criticising you in a sarcastic way. I apologise for that misleading wordings.
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-36-233.mantraonline.com) on: Mon Jun 3 14:19:46
  
  Mr.Thamizhan,
  
  
  
  "But, Did I mention what I've written was a kavidhai? "<<<<
  
  
  Well I thought it was poetic. I meant it as a compliment. Forgive me if i convyed it wrong.
  
  
  
  "Thazhuvuthal thavaraa? "<<<<
  
  Naan tavarendru kooravillai. Sorry for portraying
  wrong meaning.
  
  
  
  "
  "KaRRirunthaal KuRRam Kandilaar" what I meant here was if you would have known that
  thirukkural, you wouldn't find any mistake on poi and mey concept. No hard feelings maam. "<<<<
  
  
  
  Konjam poi paditu parungal.
  Here u say
  
  "KaRRirunthaal kutram kandilaar"
  there u said,
  Katrirundal kutram Kandirukaar"
  
  
  So hence the confusion. It portrays a ironical way of criticism.
  That is why the confusion.
  I never give opportunity for any hard feelings with any one that easily.
  So I was not hurt. Hope What i wrote did not hurt u too. Sorry again.
  
  
  
  "Naan eppothum evaraiyum paarththu ekkalippathillai. EkkaaLam Ekkaalamum niRpathillai"<<<
  
  Sorry, ekkalam is a strong word which i used.I beg ur pardon.
  
  "By the way unga Advaidha concept was good. But u know what at the same time we can have
  Iravu and Pagal together. its an universal fact. Once again i am not criticising you in a
  sarcastic way"<<<<<
  
  
  
  I guess i mislead U, and portrayed a sensitive self. I am strong made, and open for criticism.
  
  thx.
  
  
• From: Thaya. (@ 192.30.226.29) on: Mon Jun 3 16:18:27
  
  periya party'e nadanthirukku pola.sorkkalellaam koddiyirukku?
  
  still have to come back on this thread.
  hopefully tommorow.
  
  

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