naan viyantha kavithai
Topic started by suresh (@ 61.95.227.156) on Mon Sep 20 01:15:49 EDT 2004.
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- From: malligai (@ 63-227-114-65.dnvr.qwest.net)
on: Tue Oct 5 00:48:19 EDT 2004
Roshan,
kavidhai 1 & 2 r veryy nice...
//wow. that's the punch line. //---which??..hahaha...
kavidhai puriyalai...(as usual..)
:)
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.32.134)
on: Tue Oct 5 03:11:22 EDT 2004
¸Äí¸Ä¡É ÀÊòШÈ¢ø ¸¡¨Ä þÈ츢ÂÐ Á¡¦ÀÚõ ¾Å¦ÈýÀÐ Àð¼ À¢È̾¡§É ã¼÷¸ÙìÌ ¦¾Ã¢Â ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ!ŠÀʸõ §À¡ø ¿¾¢¸ÙìÌ ÀﺦÁ¡ýÚõ þýÛõ ÅóÐÅ¢¼Å¢ø¨Ä ±ýÀÐ ±ùÅÇ× ¬Ú¾Ä¡ö þÕ츢ÈÐ! ²ü¦¸É§Å ÌÆõÀ¢Â Ì𨼨 §ÁÖõ ÌÆôÀ¡¾¢ÕôÀо¡§É Å¢§Å¸õ!±í§¸ ±¨¾ ±¾¢÷À¡÷ì¸Ä¡õ ±ýÚ ¦¾Ã¢ó¾¢ÕóÐõ ºÚ츢ÂÐ Ðþ¢÷‰¼õ!
- From: suresh (@ 61.95.227.152)
on: Tue Oct 5 08:15:05 EDT 2004
:-)
PP,
come on madam.... cheer up... :-)
:-)
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Oct 5 16:32:10 EDT 2004
PP: NAn padithuRaikkE pOgavillai! irunthum saRukki vizhunthuvittEn!
nIngaL vizhAmalE vizhunthathAga eNNikkoLkiRIrgaL ;-)))
If have an option to choose between *get hurt by a friend* or *hurting my friend*. I would smartly choose the former one, PP, honestly. Because I can hurt folks very badly ;-(((Cheers! ;-)))
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Oct 5 17:08:05 EDT 2004
I meant, the "liability" I will have to pay for hurting my friend would be "huge" and it would be impossible for me to pay it off. So I better get hurt ;-)))
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.43.167)
on: Tue Oct 5 22:16:11 EDT 2004
ukw! I quite understand what you say! It is cent percent correct!"¡§Ã¡"Å¡ø «¾¢¸ ÅÄ¢ ¯ñ¼¡ì¸ ÓÊ¡Ð. «È¢ó¾Å÷¸û ¾¡ìÌõ §À¡Ð ÅÄ¢Ôõ, «¾¢÷Ôõ, ²Á¡üÈÓõ «ôÀʧ «Ó츢Ţθ¢ÈÐ ¬÷ÅÁ¨Éò¨¾Ôõ.«ÛÀÅí¸û «¨ÉòЧÁ §ÁÖõ §ÁÖõ Áɨ¾ ÀìÌÅôÀÎò¾ Å¢§Å¸ò¨¾ ÅÇ÷ì¸, ±îºÃ¢ì¨¸Ô½÷¨Å ÜÃ¡ì¸ ÀÂý ÀΞ¡ø ¸ºôÒ ÁÕóÐ §À¡ø ±ñ½¢ì¦¸¡û¸¢§Èý. ͧÉ À¡¨„¢ø ¦º¡øž¡É¡ø "¿¡ý ÅÇ÷¸¢§Èý"!
- From: srimangai (@ cosiapat1.net.americas.agilent.com)
on: Wed Oct 6 08:57:16 EDT 2004
PP Madam,
I apologize if my words have hurt you by any chance.Certainly that was not my intention . All, I made a reference of the Padiththurai is about the folks who scathingly wrote about any poem and the poet's intention. This has led to many unwanted debates in the Ulagam thread in the past ( and unfortunately this time too..).
I made the attempt on the Gnaanakoothan's works only to highlight how one would have gone wrong , if they have "mis interpreted" his works based only on the last line of his poem given by Geno.
The another Gnaanakoothan emerges out in another poem which I have highlighted. Just in case, you are still feeling bitter and if I have contributed in any form, I am sorry. Probably, I should be careful when words fly with sparks anywhere..
anpudan
srimangai
- From: srimangai (@ 220.224.42.166)
on: Wed Oct 6 21:39:30 EDT 2004
Hello Roshan,
gnaanakoothan kavithai Å⢧ħ ¦º¡øÄÏõÉ¡,
"Á¢ÖìÌ Å¡ý§¸¡Æ¢ ÒÄ¢ìÌô â¨É"í¸¢È Á¡¾¢Ã¢, let me try to explain when geno is around!
¸Å¢»ÛìÌ spontaneous ¬¸ ¸Å¢¨¾ ÅÃò¾¢Âõ. ¸Å¢¨¾ þÄ츽òÐìÌ ¸ðÎôÀðÎ ÅÕžøÄ. þÄ츽òÐìÌû Frame §À¡ðÎ «ÆÌ À¡÷ì¸Ä¡õ. ¸Å¢»ý ӾĢø ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀÎòи¢È¡ý. À¢ýɧà Frame þθ¢È¡ý.
ÀñÊðƒ£ì¸û, þÄ츽òÐìÌû ӾĢø À¡÷òÐ,«¾üÌû À¢Ðí¸¢ ãîÍò¾¢½È¢î ¦ºò¾ò¨¾Ôõ ¸Å¢¨¾¦ÂÉ ¦¸¡ñ¼¡ÎÅ÷.
¸Å¢»ý roja, panditji - ¦À¡¨¸ý Å¢øÄ¡ ÁÄ÷¸û ±Éì ¦¸¡ûÇÄ¡õ.
ºÃ¢¾¡É¡ GENO?
regards
srimangai
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.14.206)
on: Wed Oct 6 22:22:41 EDT 2004
Srimangai, no apologies, please! It was my mistake to have thrown caution to the winds. The positive result is I am trying to be more on my guard hereafter. I cannot see eye to eye with people responsible for many things happening around me, but that does not warrant impolite behaviour on my part, right? ¿¼ó¾¨Å ¿¼ó¾¨Å¸Ç¡¸ þÕì¸ðÎõ, þÉ¢ ¿¼ôÀ¨Å ¿øĨŸǡ¸ þÕì¸ðÎõ!
- From: tiruttakkan (@ 210.212.92.101)
on: Wed Oct 6 23:43:49 EDT 2004
Oh! I have missed the action. Now they all promise to be more careful in future.Hm...
Tiruttakkan
- From: geno (@ 61.2.224.208)
on: Thu Oct 7 02:41:41 EDT 2004
>> "Á¢ÖìÌ Å¡ý§¸¡Æ¢ ÒÄ¢ìÌô â¨É"í¸¢È Á¡¾¢Ã¢, let me try to explain when geno is around! >>
ithellAm rOmba over!! :=)))
ungaL viLakam mikach chariyAnathE!
"þÄ츽ì" ÜñÎìÌû «¨¼ÀðÎì ¸¢¼ìÌõ - ¸Å¢¨¾ì ¸¢Ç¢¨Â ¸¡ôÀ¡üÈ¢ «¨¾ - ;ó¾¢Ã Å¡É¢ø º¢È¸ÊòÐô ÀÈì¸ Å¢¼ ¸Å¢»÷¸û
¿¢¨ÉòÐ츢¼ì¸ - "ÀñÊðƒ£ì¸§Ç¡" «¨¾î º¢È¦¸¡ÊòÐ, 'ÜñÊĨ¼òÐ' - ¿ÁòÐô §À¡É ¦¿ø ¾óÐ, '§º¡º¢Âõ' À¡÷ì¸ ÀÂýÀÎò¾¢ì ¦¸¡ûÇ Å¢ÕõÒõ À¢ü§À¡ìÌÅ¡¾¢¸Ç¡Â¢Õ츢ýÈÉ÷ - ±ýÚõ þ¾üÌô ¦À¡Õû ¦¸¡ûÇÄ¡õ!
:=))
- From: Roshan (@ 203.143.29.131)
on: Thu Oct 7 03:44:43 EDT 2004
Thanks! sudhakar and geno :-)
- From: Pavala (@ 220.226.12.45)
on: Thu Oct 7 04:13:58 EDT 2004
One interruption: Srimangai! bougainvilla is called the king of the garden!!!
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.12.45)
on: Thu Oct 7 04:14:44 EDT 2004
One interruption: Srimangai! bougainvilla is called the king of the garden!!!
- From: srimangai (@ cosiapat1.net.americas.agilent.com)
on: Thu Oct 7 04:29:29 EDT 2004
Ah! PP Madam, Nice of you to tell about the king of the garden! But, what to do? some kings are just puppets and they remain only on the royal anarchy..
Rose is what ? Princess/queen or very subjectively , the girl next door?!
regards
srimangai
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.33.239)
on: Thu Oct 7 08:15:14 EDT 2004
¦ÃñÎìÌõ ÓûÇ¢ÕìÌ, Åñ½ Åñ½Á¡ö ¾ý ¨¸ôÀ¼ (Óû ¨¾ôÀÐõܼ ͸Á¡É ÅÄ¢!) ÅÇ÷òÐ ÍòÐÅð¼¡Ã§Á ã츢ø Å¢Ãø ¨Åì¸, À¡òÐ À¡òРú¢ì¸, ±í§¸¡ §À¡Ìõ §À¡Ðõ ¸ñÏìÌû ¦À¡ò¾¢ì ¦¸¡ñÎ §À¡Å¾¡¸ À⚸ ÜȢ š÷ò¨¾¸ÙÁ¡ö ±ý §¾¡ð¼õ ¦Ã¡õÀ À¢Ãº¢ò¾Á¡ìÌõ!§À¡¸ýÅ¢øÄ¡ ÁÄ÷¦¸¡òÐì¸û §Áø «Á÷óÐ §¾ý ÀÕÌõ Àð¼¡õâ¸¨Ç ¨¸Â¢ø §¸Áá׼ý ÐÃòÐÅÐ ¿øÄ ¦À¡ØЧÀ¡ìÌ- §ÅÚ «ì¸ô§À¡÷ þøÄ¡¾ §Å¨Ç¢ø!
- From: tiruttakkan (@ 210.212.92.101)
on: Thu Oct 7 08:48:54 EDT 2004
Sudhakar rewrites the poetry.Geno adds magic touch to it.I tell you folks! These two are painting the town red.Forum is on fire.Luckily it feels like Arctic without them.
Tiruttakkan
- From: srimangai (@ cosiapat1.net.americas.agilent.com)
on: Thu Oct 7 11:03:35 EDT 2004
Hi friends,
"ÀñÊðƒ£ì¸§Ç¡" «¨¾î º¢È¦¸¡ÊòÐ, 'ÜñÊĨ¼òÐ' - ¿ÁòÐô §À¡É ¦¿ø ¾óÐ, '§º¡º¢Âõ' À¡÷ì¸ ÀÂýÀÎò¾¢ì ¦¸¡ûÇ Å¢ÕõÒõ À¢ü§À¡ìÌÅ¡¾¢¸Ç¡Â¢Õ츢ýÈÉ÷ "- geno
þôÀÊ ±Ø¾¢Â¡Îõ Á¢ø Óý§É ¿¡ý Å¡ý§¸¡Æ¢ýÛ ¦º¡ýÉ¡ ±ýÉ ¾ôÒ?!
All said, Geno, let me tell you frankly.. you have the knack of writing in a lucid style which has an enviable reputation.
look to see more of you, TT, PP to sharpen my saw!
regards
Srimangai
- From: malligai (@ 63-227-114-65.dnvr.qwest.net)
on: Thu Oct 7 20:53:35 EDT 2004
Tiru,
//Sudhakar rewrites the poetry.Geno adds magic touch to it.I tell you folks! These two are painting the town red.//
i agree with this 100%...but also add urself to this...u three form a 'Tremendous Trio'...
:) :)
- From: tiruttakkan (@ rasharyana215.220.56.202.touchtelindia.net)
on: Thu Oct 7 21:57:13 EDT 2004
¿ýÈ¢ ÁøÄ¢¨¸.
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- From: geno (@ 61.1.201.2)
on: Fri Oct 8 12:32:04 EDT 2004
'â§Å¡Î §º÷ó¾ ¿¡Úõ Á½õ¦ÀÚõ' ±ýÀЧÀ¡Ä, ¸¾¢÷, ;¡¸÷,
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:=)
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»¡ÉìÜò¾ý ÌÈ¢ò¾ º¢Ú «È¢Ó¸ìÌÈ¢ô¨Àì ÜÊ Ţ¨ÃÅ¢ø ¾Õ¸¢§Èý. ¦À¡Úò¾Õû¸.
:=)
- From: geno (@ 61.1.201.2)
on: Fri Oct 8 12:35:30 EDT 2004
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on: Fri Oct 8 12:36:22 EDT 2004
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- From: geno (@ 61.1.201.2)
on: Fri Oct 8 12:37:02 EDT 2004
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- From: suresh (@ 61.95.227.157)
on: Sat Oct 9 02:38:48 EDT 2004
:-)
wow... vairamuthu...
geno,
// »¡ÉìÜò¾ý ÌÈ¢ò¾ º¢Ú «È¢Ó¸ìÌÈ¢ô¨Àì ÜÊ Ţ¨ÃÅ¢ø ¾Õ¸¢§Èý. ¦À¡Úò¾Õû¸. //
- time granted.... ;-)))
:-)
- From: srimangai (@ 220.224.31.190)
on: Sat Oct 9 23:24:13 EDT 2004
Geno,
I needed sometime to grasp the poem in it's sense. If I had rushed, I would have got a bias of Melodrama( which it isn't).
The coinage of words are exemplary. One has to really see the pain he would have taken to take the core theme and weave in these words. The warp and weft can be felt in each line. Hmm.. some people are just lucky to have such an ability...!
I have once read Karikaalan's work on the childrens of Cemetry workers.. so poignant and moving...
looking forward to get more of the poems which have left an impact on you.
What PP Madam, TT sir, Malligai, Akil , Roshan? Eduthuvidungal...!Ungalai Thaakiya kavithaikalai..! Roshan, I remember you quoting Tagore in one of my thread.
regards
srimangai
- From: Roshan (@ 203.143.29.131)
on: Mon Oct 11 05:45:16 EDT 2004
;¡¸÷,
±ý¨Éò ¾¡ì¸¢Â ¸Å¢¨¾¸û ¿¢¨È þÕ츢ýÈÉ. ±¨¾î ¦º¡øÅÐ ±¨¾ Å¢ÎÅÐ ±ýÚ ¦¾Ã¢ÂÅ¢ø¨Ä. À¢ÃÀÄÁ¡ÉÅ÷¸û ±Ø¾¢Â ¸Å¢¨¾¸û ÁðÎÁøÄ, ¦ÀÂ÷ ¦¾Ã¢Â¡¾Å÷¸û ±ØÐõ º¢Ä - Á¢¸ «Õ¨ÁÂ¡É ¸Å¢¨¾¸û ±ý¨Éô À¡¾¢ò¾¢Õ츢ýÈÉ. ÅÄõÒâ ƒ¡ý ÌÈ¢ôÀ¢ð¼ «ó¾î º¢ýÉì ¸Å¢¨¾¸û ¯¾¡Ã½õ. þí§¸ þó¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾ôÀ̾¢¸Ç¢§Ä§Â ¿¡ý º¢Ä ¸Å¢¨¾¸¨Çì ¸ñÎ «ºóÐ §À¡ö þÕ츢§Èý.
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