Topic started by SuKa (@ sj-natpool-220.cisco.com) on Wed Dec 11 09:42:43 .
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Nanbargaley,
Naan kavathaigal yeluthiyathillai...niraya padithirukireyn....avatrai rasithirukireyn.....analum kavithaigalai patri yeppothum oru santheygam irunthukondey irukkum....

Kavithaigalaal oru manithanin unarchigalai thathroobamaaga vadikka mudiyumaa yendru .....Mozhigalileya anaithu unarvugalayum vadikkum alavirkku vaarthaigal irukkumaaaa yenbathu santheygame ...athilum kavithaigalo...vaarthaigalai koorthu yeZhuthappadum ilakkiya vadivaam....mukkiyamaga marabu kavithaigalil kavingyargal ilakkanathukku mukkiyathuvam kodukkum bothu avargalin sinthanaigal thadai padugindrana yenbathu yen thaazhmayaana karutthu....naan paditha kavithaigalil perumbaalaanavai vaarthaygalai aanigalangalaaga ve anithullanaaa.......Bharathiyaar kavithaigalilum....avarathu vasana kavithai gali ullla alavirkku oru thaaakathai matra kavithaigalil paarka mudiyavillai.....

Oru oviar thanathu oviyathil velippaduthum unarvu cherivay kavithayel yerpadutha mudiyum yena yenakku thondravillai....

nanbargaley...ithu kurithu ungal karuthugalayum ariya aavalaga ulleyn...

Nandri,
SuKa

Responses:

• From: Senthil (@ 213.121.248.45) on: Wed Dec 11 12:02:05
  
  SuKa,
  
  sorry, kavithaikal unarchigalin vadikalkal Illai..
  the verses written for draining feelings are not long lasting in words...
  
  To me, Kavithai is an expression coming out of nuances of life.
  
  Bharati's words are powerful - fire brand dealing emotions and problems of mass. It came out at the time of need...they are not catching any finer feelings and absurdities of human existence.
  
  But now kavithai has very large base to deal many things - any thing - more individualistic...portraying reactions...absurdities....metaphors...
  
  I think one has to 'feel' while reading kavithai. I don't know about 'Ooviyam'.
  
  But to feel kavithai I can give few names (from my readings)...
  
  Manushyapuththiran
  Kalyanji
  Pasuvaiyah
  Salma
  Devadevan
  Cheran
  Abdul rahman
  Vairamuthu
  
  and few more..I think one can feel what kavithai means if they have patience to go thro' above authors.
  
  
  
• From: Senthil (@ 213.121.248.45) on: Wed Dec 11 12:02:54
  
  SuKa,
  
  sorry, kavithaikal unarchigalin vadikalkal Illai..
  the verses written for draining feelings are not long lasting in words...
  
  To me, Kavithai is an expression coming out of nuances of life.
  
  Bharati's words are powerful - fire brand dealing emotions and problems of mass. It came out at the time of need...they are not catching any finer feelings and absurdities of human existence.
  
  But now kavithai has very large base to deal many things - any thing - more individualistic...portraying reactions...absurdities....metaphors...
  
  I think one has to 'feel' while reading kavithai. I don't know about 'Ooviyam'.
  
  But to feel kavithai I can give few names (from my readings)...
  
  Manushyapuththiran
  Kalyanji
  Pasuvaiyah
  Salma
  Devadevan
  Cheran
  Abdul rahman
  Vairamuthu
  
  and few more..I think one can feel what kavithai means if they have patience to go thro' above authors.
  
  
  
• From: Senthil (@ 213.121.248.45) on: Wed Dec 11 12:03:13
  
  SuKa,
  
  sorry, kavithaikal unarchigalin vadikalkal Illai..
  the verses written for draining feelings are not long lasting in words...
  
  To me, Kavithai is an expression coming out of nuances of life.
  
  Bharati's words are powerful - fire brand dealing emotions and problems of mass. It came out at the time of need...they are not catching any finer feelings and absurdities of human existence.
  
  But now kavithai has very large base to deal many things - any thing - more individualistic...portraying reactions...absurdities....metaphors...
  
  I think one has to 'feel' while reading kavithai. I don't know about 'Ooviyam'.
  
  But to feel kavithai I can give few names (from my readings)...
  
  Manushyapuththiran
  Kalyanji
  Pasuvaiyah
  Salma
  Devadevan
  Cheran
  Abdul rahman
  Vairamuthu
  
  and few more..I think one can feel what kavithai means if they have patience to go thro' above authors.
  
  
  
• From: SuKa (@ sj-natpool-220.cisco.com) on: Fri Dec 13 06:29:01
  
  ungal bathilukku mikka nadri Senthil.
  Yenakku oviyangal matrum pugai padangal meethu thani eedubaadu undu...
  Sila oviyangalai/pugai padangalai paarkum bothu avai kavithai thanamaga iruppathaaga thondrum...Yennal 'kavithai thanam ' yenbathai varayarukka mudiya villai...aanalum antha padangalil ulla unarvugalai vaarthaigalil vadikka mudiyum yena thondravillai....athanaal thaan naan ivvaru oru yennathai veliyetteyn...athanaal yennai silar kavithaigalin yethiri yagavum ninaikka vaipullathu :)
  
  sila samayam naanum kavithaigalai yelutha muyandrathundu... aaanal avatray vadikkum bothu ut karuthilirunthu satrey vilagi ...vaarthai nayathikkaga matri yeluthuvathum undu...yenave...pala samayam yen karuthottam thadai paatu...verum vaarthay jalamagave kaarchi alikkum.... yenave ippothellam..kavithaigalayum, oviyam/ pugaipagam/ thinasari vaazhkai ivatril ulla kavithai thanathayum rasippathodu niruthikondeyn....
  
  ungal vilakkathirkku meendum oru murai nandri
  
  SuKa
  
  
  
• From: AmIright (@ 66.233.98.183) on: Sat Jan 4 03:33:27
  
  Kavithai can be of about anything and you should not set any rules to cofine it to small circle.
  1.Kavithai can create a "feeling" (as told by senthil) to both reader and the poet(when he writes and here it is not a vadikaal),it may end up without any message in it.-The people who write and read this kind of poems are mostly sensitive type.Most of the kavithaigal coming nowadays in ananda vikatan are of this type.
  
  2.Kavithai can pass message to reader from the poet and these contains lot of strong words and here u can see "unarchigalin vadikaal".This may create a change in the society and intended for that.--Most of the Bharathiyar poems fall into this category thats y you got a doubt that are they unarchigalin vadikaal.
  
  These may be basic qualities under which a poem may fall.Apart from this it may be of any other form which "cant be defined" as i said earlier u cant confine it to a small circle.
  
  So both of u r correct .
  
  
• From: harish (@ ) on: Sat Sep 13 09:53:43
  
  dear suka,
  i read ur question and the responses to u.
  as a young poet i can tell u that we can express
  all our feelings in kavithai.as bharathi expressed
  hie feelings we too can.but it avoids the gramatical rules and to the poetic rule we can express our feelings.all i can say u is i have
  expressed my feelings in kavithai then why cant others and u?
  this is just my view.
  bye harish.
  
  
• From: ambigai (@ 210.186.88.166) on: Tue Sep 16 22:07:24 EDT 2003
  
  
  sile kavithaigal karpanaiyal uruvaagindrane,
  sile kavithaigal kavinyargalin ennangal,
  innum sile avargalin unarchiye!
  
  
  
• From: Surathi (@ cache8-5.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Wed Sep 17 05:50:56 EDT 2003
  
  Hello SuKa,
  
  (1) "Oru oviar thanathu oviyathil velippaduthum unarvu cherivay kavithayel yerpadutha mudiyum yena yenakku thondravillai...." Romba sari. Veenai velippadutha mudivathai, sitar velippadutha mudiyathu.. yet, they are same in their purpose.
  
  (2) Unarvugalin vadigalaga kavidhaigal iruppathu, one of the many possibilities and purposes.
  
  
• From: karthik (@ ) on: Mon Aug 30 08:59:56
  
  hi suka
  i feel feelings can completely be expressed in words, that to in the form of kavithai its more easy and it looks beautiful and what not. really i love your question, because you have expressed it very clearly your query? its like that... i am one of the fans of kavi.kannadasan, i love him and i admire his words, he is a such a poet who can express the exact feelings in the form of words... but every one cannot express it in words but people like you and me can express if we wish. kavi.kannadasan is a person who can express the feelings of the story in to words and describes the story in a single poem.. For example a song from NENGILOREALAYAM ENGIRUNDHALUM VALGA" think about it. hope our thinking process will give you the answer for your question... bye take care...
  
  

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