talas in carnatic music.
Topic started by vivek (@ 203.163.144.2) on Sat Apr 21 08:38:11 .
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i want to know about the priciples of tal formation in carnatic music
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- From: ramkumar (@ 202.9.148.52)
on: Fri May 4 07:08:21
Dear Vivek
are u a learner of mridangam or tabla.Your description about the topic is not clear.
I have been learning mridangam for the past 13 years.do u need any info pls mail me.
- From: nick (@ host.sumitomomarine.co.uk)
on: Fri May 11 09:27:04
If you try searches on the internet for 'mridangam' and for 'carnatic' you will find the basics described. Also in the music theory books.
Many knowledgeable people here will explain any specific query you then have.
- From: sree (@ dialpool-210-214-220-23.maa.sify.net)
on: Sat May 10 13:28:53
dear ram kumar
sree here i asked about the taals in mrudangam how many are they can u ple mail me to sreej-kkd@yahoo.com
- From: meena (@ user-1121d19.dsl.mindspring.com)
on: Sat May 10 21:47:13 EDT 2003
Sree,
There are innumerable talas in carnatic music! range from simple to very complicated ones.
Some of the talas referred in books are:
1. Sapta talas
2. 108 talas (check the link for details: http://www.angelfire.com/mb/mridhangam/108talas.html
3. Ramananda talas
4. Pancha Margi talas
5. 120 Desi talas referred to in Sangita Ratnakara
6. 540 talas referred to by Sri Manicka Madaliar in Sangita Chandrikai
7. Nava talas.
8. Navasandhi talas
9. Also talas in which Tiruppugash songs have been composed by Sage Arunagirinadhar.
In addition to the afore mentioned there are ref. to talas said to have been evolved by Lord Hanuman known as Hanumat Panchakam.
Sapta talas and their 35 varieties on the basis of 'jatis are only employed today. (i think)
Of these talas which are commonly handled are:
adi tala, roopaka tala, khanda chappu tala, mishra chappu tala, jhampa tala, ata tala and eka tala.
For further details of the sapta talas and their 35 varities pl. check the following URL:
http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/ctaala.html
~corrections welcome!!!!
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Mon May 12 04:59:23 EDT 2003
Hello Sree,
Your knowledge of ancient and obscure talas seems much greater than the little information that I have, but please allow me to make a comment about talas in common current use...
Khanda Chapu and Misra Chapu are not among the 35 talas but belong to a separate group, the chapu talas. Rupaka tala as it is commonly expressed (two claps and one wave) also does not belong there, although the less frequently seen drutam+laghu (eg, clap, wave, clap, 3 finger counts) does.
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Mon May 12 05:02:26 EDT 2003
Meena,
Sorry; I see that my previous post should have been addressed to you!
- From: meena (@ user-1121d87.dsl.mindspring.com)
on: Mon May 12 12:17:19 EDT 2003
thanks nick
- From: meena (@ user-1121d87.dsl.mindspring.com)
on: Mon May 12 12:28:07 EDT 2003
nick,I realised my typo, after u pointed out. I meant u state that commonly used/handled talas are! thanks
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Mon May 12 14:00:29 EDT 2003
Now you say that I can see that it is clear! I am probably the only one that misunderstood. It was early in the morning (for me at least):-)
- From: karan (@ accel12.nyc.untd.com)
on: Mon Oct 27 20:42:41
Can some one teach me how do I tap for "Thisra Nadai-Adhi Thalam". I am learning "Chinnanjiru Kiliyae" on flute..
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