Topic started by suhas on Thu Jan 27 09:39:09 .
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Is there any technical difference between hindustani and carnatic allap except for the fact that carnatic uses tharani thara etc while hindustani uses aaaa etc


Also who do you think had the best allap

Some say semmagudi was almost a hindustani style alaap.Please comment

most modern day musicians seem to hurry up thier alaap .However I thing Bombay jayshree is really good

Responses:

• From: Senu (@ daprx02.ext.nokia.com) on: Thu Jan 27 11:43:52 EST 2000
  
  In Hindustani it is not true that all musicians
  use the akar ('aa' sounds) for alaap.
  The gayaki (style of singing) depends
  on the Gharana (a school or tradition of
  singing style). For example in the Gayaki
  (singing style) of Atrauli-Jaipur Gharana
  akar (singing a part of the raga through the vowels 'aa') is used in the Vilambit (slow
  tempo) part of the composition.
  e.g. Sruti Sadolikar, Mallikarjun Mansur,
  Ashwini Bhide, Padmawati Saligram, Aslam Khan,
  Kishori Amonkar (??) ...
  
  Atrauli-Jaipiur Gharana:
  http://www.makar-records.com/siteus/jaipur.html
  
  Comparison of various Gharanas:
  http://www.indiaheritage.com/perform/music/h-v-k-g.htm
  
  http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/GHAR/vgharana.html
  
  In the Patiala Gharana gayaki sounds like "ritena", "na" etc. are used. e.g. Ustad Fateh
  Ali Khan of Pakistan.
  
  In the south perhaps only Semmangudi is close to
  Hindustani style alaap. How about Yesudas?
  
  Thanks
  Senu
  
  
• From: Edward (@ hil-qbu-pti-vty166.as.wcom.net) on: Mon Jan 31 09:04:46 EST 2000
  
  Yes, It depends on the gharana. Sounds like "ay" "re" "na" "ta" "nom" as well as "aa".
  (in Hindustani)
  It does seem like modern day musicians do perform a shorter alaap. The older Dhrupad style in the north has very long, slowly exucuted alaap. There is not as much emphasis on this in the more popular Khayal. Though it is not out of the question and an artist certainly must have the ability to perform it. Maybe in the modern day people just have less patience!
  
  
• From: Vijaya (@ cx717786-a.omhan1.ne.home.com) on: Thu Aug 3 11:11:20
  
  In the khyal singing, there is great scope for imaginative rendering of the raga during the singing of the khyal. So the alaap in the beginning is shortened to avoid too much of repetition. In the dhrupad type of singing, there is no scope for'raga-vistar 'once the composition has started . So they sing a very long alaap (it is supposed to have four parts ) before they begin the composition.
  
  

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