Raga of songs

[Indrajith]

The Ri and Pa of Gaurimonohari when taken as Sa will give rise to the Melas like Natakapriya, Vachaspathi and Charukesi.
On Doing grahabedha on either of these we can get another
( Natakapriya, Vachaspathi, Charukesi, Gowrimanohari)

Some of the grahabedha list is as follows

(1) Kanakangi(51) Kamavardhini
(2) Ratnangi(19) Jhankaradhwani(53) Gamanasrama
(3) Ganamoorti(54) Viswambari(55) Syamalangi
(4) Vanaspati(25) Mararanjani
(5) Manavati(61) Kantamani
(6) Tanaroopi
(7) Senavati(17) Suryakantam (63) Latangi
(8) Hanumatodi(20) Natabhairavi(22) Kharaharapriya(28) Harikambhoji(29) DheeraSh
ankarabharanam(65) Mechakalyani
(9) Dhenuka(35) Soolini(56) Shanmukhapriya(66) Chitrambari
(10) Natakapriya(23) Gowrimanohari(26) Charukesi(64) Vachaspati
(11) Kokilapriya(62) Rishabhapriya
(12) Roopavati
(13) Gayakapriya(69) Dhatuvardhini
(14) Vakulabharanam(21) Keeravani(58) Hemavati(71) Kosalam
(15) Mayamalavagowla(57) Simhendramadhyamam(72) Rasikapriya
(16) Chakravakam(27) Sarasangi (59) Dharmavati
(17) Suryakantam (7) Senavati(63) Latangi
(18) Hatakambari(43) Gavambodhi
(19) Jhankaradhwani(2) Ratnangi(53) Gamanasrama
(20) Natabhairavi(8) Hanumatodi(22) Kharaharapriya(28) Harikambhoji(29) DheeraSh
ankarabharanam(65) Mechakalyani
(21) Keeravani(14) Vakulabharanam(58) Hemavati(71) Kosalam
(22) Kharaharapriya(8) Hanumatodi(20) Natabhairavi(28) Harikambhoji(29) DheeraSh
ankarabharanam(65) Mechakalyani
(23) Gowrimanohari(10) Natakapriya(26) Charukesi(64) Vachaspati
(24) Varunapriya(32) Ragavardhini
(25) Mararanjani (4) Vanaspati
(26) Charukesi(10) Natakapriya(23) Gowrimanohari(64) Vachaspati
(27) Sarasangi (16) Chakravakam(59) Dharmavati
(28) Harikambhoji(8) Hanumatodi(20) Natabhairavi(22) Kharaharapriya(29) DheeraSh
ankarabharanam(65) Mechakalyani
(29) DheeraShankarabharanam(8) Hanumatodi(20) Natabhairavi(22) Kharaharapriya(28
) Harikambhoji(65) Mechakalyani
(30) Naganandini(34) Vagadheeswari(44) Bhavapriya
(31) Yagapriya
(32) Ragavardhini(24) Varunapriya
(33) Gangeyabhooshani(60) Neetimati
(34) Vagadheeswari(30) Naganandini(44) Bhavapriya
(35) Soolini(9) Dhenuka(56) Shanmukhapriya(66) Chitrambari
(36) Chalanata(45) Subhapantuvarali
(37) Salagam
(38) Jalarnavam
(39) Jhalavarali
(40) Navaneetam
(41) Pavani
(42) Raghupriya
(43) Gavambodhi(18) Hatakambari
(44) Bhavapriya(30) Naganandini(34) Vagadheeswari
(45) Subhapantuvarali(36) Chalanata
(46) Shadvidhamargini(70) Nasikabhooshani
(47) Suvarnangi
(48) Divyamani
(49) Dhavalambari
(50) Namanarayani
(51) Kamavardhini(1) Kanakangi
(52) Ramapriya
(53) Gamanasrama(2) Ratnangi(19) Jhankaradhwani
(54) Viswambari(3) Ganamoorti(55) Syamalangi
(55) Syamalangi(3) Ganamoorti(54) Viswambari
(56) Shanmukhapriya(9) Dhenuka(35) Soolini(66) Chitrambari
(57) Simhendramadhyamam(15) Mayamalavagowla(72) Rasikapriya
(58) Hemavati(14) Vakulabharanam(21) Keeravani(71) Kosalam
(59) Dharmavati(16) Chakravakam(27) Sarasangi
(60) Neetimati(33) Gangeyabhooshani
(61) Kantamani(5) Manavati
(62) Rishabhapriya(11) Kokilapriya
(63) Latangi(7) Senavati(17) Suryakantam
(64) Vachaspati(10) Natakapriya(23) Gowrimanohari(26) Charukesi
(65) Mechakalyani(8) Hanumatodi(20) Natabhairavi(22) Kharaharapriya(28) Harikamb
hoji(29) DheeraShankarabharanam
(66) Chitrambari(9) Dhenuka(35) Soolini(56) Shanmukhapriya
(67) Sucharitra
(68) Jyotiswaroopini
(69) Dhatuvardhini(13) Gayakapriya
(70) Nasikabhooshani(46) Shadvidhamargini
(71) Kosalam(14) Vakulabharanam(21) Keeravani(58) Hemavati
(72) Rasikapriya(15) Mayamalavagowla(57) Simhendramadhyamam

[mythila]

Is there a raga called Mohana(not the popular Mohanam)?
What is the raga of "Yadhuvamsa thilaka" ? Is it Behaag? Thanks

[Srini]

Wish you guys a happy and prosperous Diwali

-Srini

[Nitya]

Mythila, where did you hear of a raaga called Mohana different from Sa Ri2 Ga3 Pa Dha2 Sa? Maybe there is such a raaga separate from the simple, universally attractive pentatonic scale we call Mohanam, but I don't know.

[Nitya]

BTW, please note that Nitya=purv. We are one and the same. 8)

[vel]

Srini,

I can fairly easily detect hamsanadham. But if you ask me vadi, vivadi, samvadi, characteristic phrases etc etc, i wont be able to answer technically as well as someone like isairasigai (IR) or rgpm sundar.

[vel]

And unfortunately, both these guys dont quite post these days. You just have to wait till someone else tries answering ur querry. (RR may pitch in)

[Nitya]

I can say quite confidently that vivadi phrases are those that employ Sathshruti Rishabam (Ri3), Suddha Gaandhaaram (Ga1), Sathshruthi Dhaivatam (Dha3), or Suddha Nishaadam (Ni1). Vivadhi is Sanskrit for inimical, opposite of vadi, or harmonious. The following melakartas are all vivadhi raagams: Kanakangi, Rathnangi, Ganamurthi, Vanaspathi, Maanavathi, Thaanaroopi, Senavathi, Roopavathi, Gayakapriya, Hatakambhari, Jhankaradhwani, Varunapriya, Maararanjani, Naganandhini, Yaagapriya, Ragavardhani, Gangeyabhushani, Vaagadheeshwari, Shoolini, Chalanaatai, Saalagam, Jalarnavam, Jalavaraali, Navanitham, Paavani, Raghupriya, Ghavambodhi, Divyamani, Dhavalaambari, Vishwaambari, Shyamalangi, Neethimathi, Kaanthaamani, Chitrambari, and all the rest up to Rasikapriya.

Characteristic phrases cannot be easily explained, for a lot of raagams. For a raagam like Reethigowla, Kanada or Saaranga, which derives its distinctive flavor from characteristic phrases, then no problem. However, there are innumerable raagams wherein the raaga lakshanam does not outright state the characteristic phrases. For instance, Aarabhi raagam has several raaga-specific phrases that are not seen directly in the scale; just playing the keys of Sudhasaveri going up and Shankarabharanam coming down aren't enough; the Gaandhaaram and the Nishaadam have to come in the transition from the Madhyamam to Rishabam and Shadjam to Dhaivatam respectively-- phrases like Ga3-Ri2-Sa, Ri2-Ga3-Ri2-Sa, Pa-Ga3-Ri2, or Pa-Ma1-Ga3 are disallowed, if one wants to adhere to Aarabhi raagam. Parayogams like these may hint Devagaandhaari or Sama raagam instead, and even these raagas have raaga-specific phrases, like Devagaandhaari has several phrases where Ni2 comes into play, even though the scale for Devagaandhari doesn't show it.

I know it's not related to Hamsanadham, but I'm sure the raaga is laden with characteristic phrases as well.

[RR]

And unfortunately, both these guys dont quite post these days. You just have to wait till someone else tries answering ur querry. (RR may pitch in)

vel, cycle gap-la nammalai maatti vidreengale. I'm just a film song buff, I don't know about the deeper classical stuff. But I like to hear from IR and other experts.

[Nitya]

Hey guys, what's up? I saw the song 'Kanni Ponnu' (Ninaivellaam Nithya) mapped to Hamsanadham raagam. Is this correct?