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    Sticky: Nitya wrote). //I struggle with raagas such...

    Nitya wrote).

    //I struggle with raagas such as Dwijavanthi, Jonpuri, and other such raagas.//

    I remember a song in Dwijavanthi in "madhuraiyai meeta sundapandian" (MD:MSV)

    Jonpuri: "kallile...
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    Sticky: I have heard Odhuvars rendition of thEvAram in...

    I have heard Odhuvars rendition of thEvAram in Thanjai Brahadeeswarar Alayam about 3 decades. It was an enchanting experience and is still alive in my mind. Sad such an art is dying
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    Sticky: Indrajith wrote: // Thiruvachagam are more...

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    // Thiruvachagam are more appealing and soothing when sung by " Othuvar" in any temple just as a virutham. Thiruvachagam is not written for musical forms adhering to beats. I say...
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    Sticky: RRA: I agree with your confusion. Earlier in this...

    RRA: I agree with your confusion. Earlier in this thread I pointed out the similarities between raagas including this pair MMvathi-Sree.
    I found many such "clashes" between other sources and...
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    Sticky: //Orchestration and choice of instruments at...

    //Orchestration and choice of instruments at different places can and probably will come automatically.//

    When I said automatically i definitely didn't have computer in mind. What I meant was...
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    Sticky: // Also, you must know that I'm yet to learn how...

    // Also, you must know that I'm yet to learn how to orchestrate songs, and furthermore, I need to become familiar with so many different instruments. Of the aggregate musical instruments, I can only...
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    Sticky: Indrajith/Nitya/Srini I coukldn't agree with...

    Indrajith/Nitya/Srini

    I coukldn't agree with you guys more from what little latest"chart busters" I have heard.

    Lil bit soul-searching revealed that we are not the average present day TFM...
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    Sticky: thumburu re: your following msg // coolcrave,...

    thumburu re: your following msg

    // coolcrave, it is surely a catchy number in GowriManohari. IBut I will not go to the extent of saying it is the best. There are enough Illaiyaraja's numbers in...
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    Sticky: RR I am not sure. I am just a kaththukutti in...

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    I am not sure. I am just a kaththukutti in keyboard trying it out whenever I find time. Even this preliminary trials were able to point out the dissimilarities between the...
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    Sticky: // To be honest I cannot simply digest when...

    // To be honest I cannot simply digest when people tell that this raga is "Brother" or "Sister" or "Sithappa" ....of such and such raga.
    If you know both the ragas they are just different. As...
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    Sticky: //Pilu and Kaapi are one and the same. Might be...

    //Pilu and Kaapi are one and the same. Might be if a song has a heavy hindusthani backdrop/rendering then you might call it pilu else it is kaapi//
    Agreed. Only difference is pilu contains kaisiki...
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    Sticky: Srini_M At certain places it resembles kapi and...

    Srini_M
    At certain places it resembles kapi and at certain other places ot is far removed.
    I think "pattern matching" between ragas though will work in general, you can be sure only if you play it...
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    Sticky: Nitya/Srini I know I'm gonna get a lot of...

    Nitya/Srini

    I know I'm gonna get a lot of brickbats for this. Any way I'll come out with it.

    I think we muat be a li'l easy on the new MDs and in fact encourage them. They are constrained by so...
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    Sticky: Srini, "vAdAmalarE..." is from the...

    Srini, "vAdAmalarE..." is from the shivaji-Banummathi starrer, "Ambikapathi"; MD:G.Ramanathan
  15. Rajasaranam & Vijayr As I see it a "virgin"...

    Rajasaranam & Vijayr
    As I see it a "virgin" lyric is "raw" with certain sandams that orginated in the mind of the lyricist. But IMHO it is the ingenuity of the MD that gives it life, especially when...
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    Sticky: SN23, //Also another set of songs "Kaalamenum...

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    //Also another set of songs "Kaalamenum kaaviyam"from VattathukkuL sadhuram (IR) and old song "Kaala magaL kaN thirppaaL cheelaiya" from Ananda jyoti (MSV-TKR) have the same base. But how...
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    Sticky: SN23, // pakka pahaadi is Ambha manam...

    SN23,
    // pakka pahaadi is Ambha manam ka-nin-dhurugi kadai kaN pAr.... illaya? Even 7 swarangaLukkuL starting bit also in the Pahaadi saayal dhAn//. neenga sonna indha rendu pAttum pantuvarALi...
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    Sticky: SN23: //1. kaatru vandhal thalai saayum naaNal ...

    SN23:
    //1. kaatru vandhal thalai saayum naaNal
    2. kaaNa vandha katchi enna veLLi nilave //

    Both are set to 6/8 rhythm. My initial feeling: konjam pahadi saayal adikkuthu.
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    Sticky: Perhaps the song which brings out the and feeling...

    Perhaps the song which brings out the and feeling of b.shri best is "ponnezhil poothadhu pudhu vAnil..." by the Senior Maestro.

    While on this, why don't we alasify "brindavana saaranga" in TFM, I...
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    Sticky: Hi madhu: // is 1. "ponnezhil poothadhu" from...

    Hi madhu:

    // is 1. "ponnezhil poothadhu" from kalangarai vilakkam is B~Sri ?

    and also the following songs.. ( I dont know the swarams etc..But they make me feel like same ragam)
    2. kANa...
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